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00:00:07 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected Episode 616.

00:00:12 ◼   ► It's made possible by our sponsors.

00:00:15 ◼   ► They are Fitbod, Bolt.new, Scribe, and Sentry.

00:00:19 ◼   ► I am your annual chairman, Steven Hackett.

00:00:22 ◼   ► And I'm joined by man of the people, Mike Hurley.

00:00:26 ◼   ► Hello, that is I, and I would have the pleasure of introducing to you

00:00:30 ◼   ► the returning keynote chairman, Federico Patici.

00:00:33 ◼   ► Hello, Federico.

00:00:34 ◼   ► Hello.

00:00:35 ◼   ► I'm back together.

00:00:36 ◼   ► The constant has returned.

00:00:38 ◼   ► The three of us are a unit again.

00:00:41 ◼   ► We are.

00:00:42 ◼   ► What a unit we are.

00:00:43 ◼   ► Feels good.

00:00:44 ◼   ► It feels good.

00:00:45 ◼   ► Let's ruin that feeling by talking about some follow-up.

00:00:48 ◼   ► Okay.

00:00:51 ◼   ► The most advice of the case.

00:00:52 ◼   ► And Connor and many other people.

00:00:54 ◼   ► I'm giving them credit because they were first.

00:01:02 ◼   ► You just hit command option shift V and it past without formatting.

00:01:07 ◼   ► And if you're I didn't say this in the show, I should have.

00:01:11 ◼   ► Also, but we love your feedback.

00:01:13 ◼   ► Keep sending it.

00:01:14 ◼   ► Don't I don't want to sound ungracious.

00:01:16 ◼   ► I am.

00:01:17 ◼   ► But wow.

00:01:18 ◼   ► But um you can also in Mac OS, you know, there's this featured buried

00:01:24 ◼   ► in system settings where you can like remap shortcuts.

00:01:28 ◼   ► For a long time, when I was like a plain text purist when I

00:01:31 ◼   ► was younger, I replaced Command V with this.

00:01:38 ◼   ► So every time I pasted, it was without formatting.

00:01:42 ◼   ► Um, which is cool when you're using envy alt and you're 23, but when

00:01:46 ◼   ► you're 40 and using Notion, maybe less important.

00:01:50 ◼   ► Yeah, look, here's the thing, everyone obviously I know this exists.

00:01:54 ◼   ► Um but you didn't say it.

00:01:56 ◼   ► But I just feel like sometimes we don't need anyway.

00:02:01 ◼   ► The thing is, it is unreliable in Google Docs and Sheets.

00:02:06 ◼   ► It is.

00:02:07 ◼   ► And so this is the whole reason I'm doing this.

00:02:09 ◼   ► I explained that I actually explained this on the show.

00:02:12 ◼   ► I did already say paste and match style is unreliable in Google Docs and

00:02:16 ◼   ► Sheets.

00:02:17 ◼   ► And so to me, having the format stripped before I even try to paste,

00:02:21 ◼   ► it's just more reliable.

00:02:23 ◼   ► Um, and so that's why I do it.

00:02:25 ◼   ► So there we go.

00:02:27 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:02:27 ◼   ► So thank you.

00:02:28 ◼   ► I know, and it's doesn't solve my problem.

00:02:31 ◼   ► I mean, so much about Google Docs and Sheets is so janky.

00:02:36 ◼   ► And it I wish it was better because the products are really good if

00:02:40 ◼   ► you only live within the products.

00:02:43 ◼   ► If you do anything else on your computer, it starts to hurt a little

00:02:47 ◼   ► bit.

00:02:47 ◼   ► Yep.

00:02:49 ◼   ► Okay, that came up because we were talking about Pay Spot, and I realized

00:02:53 ◼   ► I mean Federico wasn't there, and I realized I don't know what Federico uses

00:02:57 ◼   ► for a clipboard manager if he uses one at all.

00:02:59 ◼   ► So Federico, what you doing, boy?

00:03:01 ◼   ► I sure do.

00:03:02 ◼   ► I use paste.

00:03:03 ◼   ► Ooh, that's a good one.

00:03:05 ◼   ► Clipper manager for macOS, iOS, and iPad OS.

00:03:08 ◼   ► Really lovely UI.

00:03:10 ◼   ► So you hit a keyboard shortcut, and this like um tray pops up at

00:03:14 ◼   ► the bottom of the screen on Mac.

00:03:16 ◼   ► You could call it a shelf, maybe?

00:03:17 ◼   ► A shelf, yes.

00:03:19 ◼   ► It is a shelf.

00:03:19 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:03:20 ◼   ► The purists, they know.

00:03:22 ◼   ► You can uh obviously it defaults to to showing you uh whatever you copied.

00:03:27 ◼   ► I really love the visual presentation of this.

00:03:31 ◼   ► Very pretty.

00:03:31 ◼   ► It's very pretty and it shows you all the clipboard items.

00:03:35 ◼   ► Um, it does a few things, it shows you uh the the items as

00:03:39 ◼   ► a thumbnail previews, but in addition to previewing the contents of the item, so

00:03:43 ◼   ► if it's an image, you see the image.

00:03:44 ◼   ► If it's text, you see the text.

00:03:44 ◼   ► It also tells you the type and it shows you the icon of the

00:03:51 ◼   ► app where you copied that item from.

00:03:54 ◼   ► So I just copied some text from Safari and it says text three minutes

00:03:58 ◼   ► ago with the Safari icon.

00:04:00 ◼   ► Um what I also love is that it syncs with iCloud to the iPhone

00:04:03 ◼   ► and iPad.

00:04:04 ◼   ► On the iPhone and iPad, you have a custom keyboard to browse uh your

00:04:08 ◼   ► clipboard items.

00:04:09 ◼   ► This is really nice.

00:04:10 ◼   ► Uh they also have shortcut actions.

00:04:12 ◼   ► So I assigned, I have a I have a uh I have a shortcut

00:04:16 ◼   ► menu tied to the action button with a bunch of shortcuts that I use

00:04:19 ◼   ► on a regular basis.

00:04:21 ◼   ► And one of those shortcuts is a paste action that is just called save

00:04:25 ◼   ► to paste.

00:04:25 ◼   ► So if I'm copying a bunch of things on my iPhone in a row,

00:04:28 ◼   ► like uh a link and an email address, I can just invoke the action

00:04:33 ◼   ► button and save both of them quickly to paste.

00:04:35 ◼   ► Later, when I need to paste those two things, I can switch to my

00:04:39 ◼   ► email client, open the custom keyboard, and then tap on the two thumbnails on

00:04:44 ◼   ► the iPhone to paste them together.

00:04:46 ◼   ► Um I also love that it has an MC, a local MCP thing on

00:04:52 ◼   ► the Mac, so you can ask uh Codecs or Cloud or whatever to look

00:04:56 ◼   ► at things that you recently copied.

00:04:59 ◼   ► Um, I also use a feature called pinboards of paste that basically lets you

00:05:05 ◼   ► create custom shelves.

00:05:06 ◼   ► So they're they're like folders, think of them as folders for reusable snippets.

00:05:12 ◼   ► And I keep um one that is called useful links.

00:05:16 ◼   ► These are like uh links that I open on a regular basis, like our

00:05:20 ◼   ► memberful admin dashboard or the Stripe admin dashboard.

00:05:24 ◼   ► Uh things that I don't want to bookmark in Safari because I it's not

00:05:28 ◼   ► that I'm using them every single day, but they're frequent enough to warrant being

00:05:29 ◼   ► saved somewhere.

00:05:34 ◼   ► But the feature that I the the two pin boards that I really use

00:05:38 ◼   ► are uh Chad GPT prompts and Claude prompts.

00:05:41 ◼   ► These are like th prompts that I use on a regular basis when I'm

00:05:45 ◼   ► working in codecs for Claude, and I just keep them saved there so that

00:05:50 ◼   ► when I'm working on something, I can just reuse that boilerplate text with instructions

00:05:55 ◼   ► over and over from paste.

00:05:57 ◼   ► I've downloaded this, I want to look at it.

00:05:59 ◼   ► I I I really like that it has an iOS app.

00:06:02 ◼   ► I think that is the one down so downside of Pacebot for me right

00:06:05 ◼   ► now.

00:06:06 ◼   ► Um it's not something that I that I'm missing, but it's something I feel

00:06:10 ◼   ► like I could use.

00:06:11 ◼   ► You know what I mean?

00:06:12 ◼   ► Like it it would it would take it to another level.

00:06:15 ◼   ► Um so I'm gonna try this one out.

00:06:17 ◼   ► I want to see if it does the things that I like that that

00:06:19 ◼   ► I've been using PaceBot for, and if it does, then I might give this

00:06:22 ◼   ► one a while too.

00:06:24 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:06:25 ◼   ► Mike, have you bought any storage devices?

00:06:27 ◼   ► No, but I have a very dangerous Amazon cart right now.

00:06:31 ◼   ► So I put a bunch of things in my car and I just haven't

00:06:34 ◼   ► done it yet.

00:06:35 ◼   ► But I'm I know what I'm gonna get, but I I'm I'm very very

00:06:39 ◼   ► careful when I'm buying things on Amazon this week.

00:06:41 ◼   ► Okay, I have to just press the buy it now button because otherwise I

00:06:44 ◼   ► may accidentally charge like two grand.

00:06:47 ◼   ► Yeah, which is what my cart value is right now, because I don't know

00:06:51 ◼   ► if you know, but uh hard drives are really expensive.

00:06:54 ◼   ► They are funny, Federica's listening to to um uh NPC and John's John referenced

00:07:00 ◼   ► that.

00:07:00 ◼   ► Like, oh you know, hard drives are really expensive, and I'm like, yes, John,

00:07:04 ◼   ► I know.

00:07:05 ◼   ► I know because I'm trying to buy like five six terabyte drives or something

00:07:11 ◼   ► like that.

00:07:12 ◼   ► So yeah, I'm gonna do it.

00:07:13 ◼   ► Um I have a car I have uh in this I'm not a hundred

00:07:14 ◼   ► I'm gonna take another look around and and before I do buy I want

00:07:14 ◼   ► to have another look around of the the hard drives that are available um

00:07:25 ◼   ► but I have uh five six terabyte WD Red Plus and the OWC Thunderbolt

00:07:31 ◼   ► Thunder Bay 4 I have the version that includes a copy of Soft RAD

00:07:37 ◼   ► um okay because I know I want to use that and you can get

00:07:39 ◼   ► it a little bit cheaper if you buy it um bundled yeah so yeah

00:07:44 ◼   ► but this this is 1941 which is a lot of money.

00:07:49 ◼   ► My wife whom I love does this she'll just leave stuff in the Amazon

00:07:54 ◼   ► cart.

00:07:54 ◼   ► I don't usually do this I just did this because I wanted to price

00:07:58 ◼   ► it all out you know yeah um and now it's just all sitting there.

00:08:02 ◼   ► So sometimes if I don't notice it like if it's something small uh you

00:08:07 ◼   ► know then it shows up she's like oh I didn't mean to order this

00:08:09 ◼   ► it's like well why is it in the cart but then if I move

00:08:11 ◼   ► it to save for later it's like it's gone from the world in our

00:08:14 ◼   ► mind.

00:08:15 ◼   ► Yeah yeah um we need a better system in our household for this save

00:08:21 ◼   ► for later is not a great it's not great the way that Amazon does

00:08:24 ◼   ► it's like I just never really know where it goes.

00:08:27 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:28 ◼   ► So I will do this.

00:08:29 ◼   ► I mean probably it's gonna happen within the next couple of weeks because once

00:08:34 ◼   ► the first like season of design in California is all completed I'm gonna want

00:08:39 ◼   ► to move it because it's a lot of space um but uh I haven't

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00:11:32 ◼   ► The new iPhone is just, I mean, gosh, really just like a month away.

00:11:36 ◼   ► And we've been talking a lot about this, obviously.

00:11:39 ◼   ► A couple of just quick follow-up items to previous conversations.

00:11:43 ◼   ► I've made my bed that I think it's called the iPhone Ultra.

00:11:47 ◼   ► And according to Mark German, quote, everyone at Apple calls it the iPhone Ultra.

00:11:55 ◼   ► Whether they know that's the name or not, who knows?

00:11:58 ◼   ► But that's, you know, that's what people are calling it.

00:12:01 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't.

00:12:02 ◼   ► I mean, I know you think Ultra's like nice or whatever.

00:12:05 ◼   ► No, no, no, no, no.

00:12:06 ◼   ► It's not because of that.

00:12:08 ◼   ► It's just that like most people at Apple do not know product names.

00:12:11 ◼   ► Yeah, which is why this happens.

00:12:14 ◼   ► Right.

00:12:14 ◼   ► Like people fill it in.

00:12:16 ◼   ► But uh, we will see.

00:12:18 ◼   ► I mean, it's it's absolutely wild how close we are.

00:12:21 ◼   ► But sadly, boys, it may be US market first.

00:12:29 ◼   ► And then maybe China two or three months later.

00:12:31 ◼   ► What?

00:12:32 ◼   ► What are you talking about?

00:12:33 ◼   ► I don't buy this at all because I don't like it, so I don't

00:12:35 ◼   ► believe it.

00:12:36 ◼   ► It was on Mac rumors right as we started recording.

00:12:40 ◼   ► Um a Australian outlet says they have been told by local carriers and one

00:12:45 ◼   ► major retailer that the first votable iPhone will be a no-show when the iPhone

00:12:49 ◼   ► 18 Pros model launched there in September.

00:12:52 ◼   ► Instead, they believe Apple will release the book style device in the US market

00:12:56 ◼   ► first.

00:12:57 ◼   ► Oh, come on.

00:12:58 ◼   ► With a staggered launch to other key markets.

00:13:01 ◼   ► This is how Federico buys his phone in Germany again.

00:13:04 ◼   ► No, this is how I buy my Samsung uh Z Fold 8.

00:13:08 ◼   ► Or Big Apple Big Apple buddy.

00:13:11 ◼   ► Big uh or Mr.

00:13:13 ◼   ► John Boris flying to Italy.

00:13:15 ◼   ► Is Big Big Apple Buddy still around?

00:13:17 ◼   ► Look at this.

00:13:17 ◼   ► I'm sorry, Steven.

00:13:18 ◼   ► It's gonna be very unfortunate for you because you're gonna need to buy a

00:13:21 ◼   ► phone from me.

00:13:22 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:13:23 ◼   ► I'd check give a get a credit check on that man.

00:13:25 ◼   ► Jeez.

00:13:26 ◼   ► Yeah, you're gonna have to buy buy a phone from me.

00:13:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:13:28 ◼   ► Because I will be coming to America not too long after the phone releases.

00:13:32 ◼   ► That's true.

00:13:33 ◼   ► Or I'll just I may just have you overnight Fed exit to me too.

00:13:36 ◼   ► Nope, not I just have to see how that goes.

00:13:40 ◼   ► So expensive.

00:13:41 ◼   ► Uh that would really stink.

00:13:43 ◼   ► That would be that would be terrible.

00:13:45 ◼   ► Um Yeah.

00:13:46 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:13:46 ◼   ► This seems I mean look, that might be the case.

00:13:48 ◼   ► I can understand the thinking.

00:13:50 ◼   ► This is a very sketchy rumor.

00:13:52 ◼   ► It it is.

00:13:53 ◼   ► I I I would want this Who's saying this?

00:13:56 ◼   ► An Australian publication?

00:13:57 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:13:58 ◼   ► Like that's even a place.

00:14:01 ◼   ► Channel news.

00:14:02 ◼   ► Like that's a real place.

00:14:03 ◼   ► They just say like that's a real place.

00:14:06 ◼   ► I did.

00:14:07 ◼   ► Um supply.

00:14:08 ◼   ► I'm sorry, like I just don't know if I if I I just don't

00:14:11 ◼   ► think I can trust like an Australian supplier to know the worldwide.

00:14:16 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:14:17 ◼   ► Like I just don't buy it.

00:14:14 ◼   ► Wow, the huge UK energy there.

00:14:21 ◼   ► Channel news.

00:14:22 ◼   ► Channel news.

00:14:23 ◼   ► It's uh Australia's number one source for technology news.

00:14:26 ◼   ► Okay.

00:14:27 ◼   ► I think fine.

00:14:30 ◼   ► I think uh I think if this is real, German will weigh in.

00:14:34 ◼   ► I think either way, German will weigh in.

00:14:36 ◼   ► Probably.

00:14:37 ◼   ► Yes.

00:14:38 ◼   ► The the fact that the the fact the fact that nobody else has said

00:14:42 ◼   ► this, right?

00:14:43 ◼   ► And and now this like uh I just don't it just doesn't feel like

00:14:48 ◼   ► a thing to me.

00:14:48 ◼   ► I mean, maybe it's right, maybe it's right.

00:14:51 ◼   ► And and channel news is correct, but I just this just feels like a

00:14:54 ◼   ► quick way to grab a headline.

00:14:56 ◼   ► Don't you miss the days when Jim Dar Limpore would just say nope to

00:14:59 ◼   ► things?

00:15:00 ◼   ► I mean, I would like a yep or a nope to this.

00:15:02 ◼   ► Maybe I should somebody should ask Mark Gurman what he thinks.

00:15:05 ◼   ► Now it's just uh it's just uh saying on that that people that that

00:15:09 ◼   ► Apple should fire Craig Federigi.

00:15:11 ◼   ► That's that's what you did.

00:15:12 ◼   ► Oh, really?

00:15:12 ◼   ► So it's great opinion.

00:15:14 ◼   ► It's a great and very relevant opinion.

00:15:16 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:15:16 ◼   ► Uh uh anyway, I hope this is not the case.

00:15:20 ◼   ► And uh because I really want to get an iPhone fold.

00:15:23 ◼   ► We just did an episode of MPC before this, and Brendan got a Z

00:15:28 ◼   ► Fold 8.

00:15:29 ◼   ► Oh, I can't wait to hear what he thinks.

00:15:31 ◼   ► He's been basically gushing for 25 minutes about the Z fold 8 and showing

00:15:35 ◼   ► off how incredible it looks like when what when you're playing games on it

00:15:40 ◼   ► in I think.

00:15:41 ◼   ► I would like to make this prediction though, uh, on this show about that

00:15:44 ◼   ► show.

00:15:45 ◼   ► Uh he will not last the year.

00:15:48 ◼   ► Well, interesting, because that's his whole thing now that he's switching to Android.

00:15:52 ◼   ► No, I know.

00:15:52 ◼   ► Uh he mentioned it in the last episode, and my bet is he does

00:15:56 ◼   ► not make the year.

00:15:58 ◼   ► Interesting.

00:15:58 ◼   ► Okay, we'll see.

00:15:59 ◼   ► We're making cross show bets.

00:16:02 ◼   ► Yeah, cross show bets.

00:16:03 ◼   ► Okay.

00:16:05 ◼   ► Anyway.

00:15:59 ◼   ► Any anyway.

00:16:07 ◼   ► Um everyone calls it the ultra.

00:16:11 ◼   ► But everyone in Australia thinks that it's not coming up.

00:16:17 ◼   ► Look, I just it's not anything on this outlet.

00:16:21 ◼   ► It's just like it's these things happen all the time, right?

00:16:23 ◼   ► Like just is here's one person said this thing to someone, and it's like,

00:16:27 ◼   ► who knows?

00:16:28 ◼   ► And it's they could do this, but uh there aren't there the reports of

00:16:34 ◼   ► it being limited, that is already starting to say is not a thing.

00:16:39 ◼   ► So I'm just not sure if I if I buy it.

00:16:44 ◼   ► We'll see.

00:16:45 ◼   ► Sounds like I'm gonna buy it.

00:16:47 ◼   ► You will be buying it, yeah.

00:16:48 ◼   ► That's true.

00:16:49 ◼   ► We've also spoken about the uh the colors of the iPhone 18 Pro and

00:16:56 ◼   ► Pro Max.

00:16:57 ◼   ► Looks like some sort of black or space gray, a blue, a dark cherry,

00:17:02 ◼   ► and then a to my eye, slightly darker silver than the 17 Pro.

00:17:08 ◼   ► Um, and uh anyways, I I asked a Gen Z person about these colors

00:17:14 ◼   ► the other day.

00:17:15 ◼   ► I'm sorry, I I went back to this article.

00:17:17 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:17:18 ◼   ► I have one more thing.

00:17:19 ◼   ► Okay.

00:17:20 ◼   ► Wait, there's one more thing.

00:17:22 ◼   ► Apple management is not expected to reveal pricing for the fold at the September

00:17:26 ◼   ► 8th event.

00:17:28 ◼   ► What?

00:17:28 ◼   ► That's what this article says.

00:17:30 ◼   ► Australia says that or MacRimer says that.

00:17:32 ◼   ► Australia says that.

00:17:33 ◼   ► Okay.

00:17:34 ◼   ► David David Richards says that.

00:17:36 ◼   ► Probably a bit better than that.

00:17:37 ◼   ► They're not gonna talk about the price of the product at the launch event.

00:17:41 ◼   ► Okay.

00:17:41 ◼   ► Um really.

00:17:43 ◼   ► Alright.

00:17:44 ◼   ► I agree.

00:17:46 ◼   ► So I don't know.

00:17:47 ◼   ► Fake news.

00:17:48 ◼   ► I don't know about this article.

00:17:50 ◼   ► Fake.

00:17:51 ◼   ► Wait a second.

00:17:52 ◼   ► Is this a real website?

00:17:55 ◼   ► Do you think they just like they get bungled by AI?

00:17:58 ◼   ► Look, I mean.

00:18:00 ◼   ► Look, um so I'm trying to click on the byline and it takes you

00:18:04 ◼   ► nowhere.

00:18:05 ◼   ► I'm trying to find a social profile for this website, and they have 600

00:18:10 ◼   ► followers on X.com.

00:18:13 ◼   ► Um, with the last post to being in August 2020.

00:18:16 ◼   ► It's Australia's number one source of technology news.

00:18:19 ◼   ► I think MacRumors may have gotten duped.

00:18:22 ◼   ► Which means I got duped for talking about it here.

00:18:26 ◼   ► Dupe doop should whoop.

00:18:28 ◼   ► Uh I mean, yeah, there's like another thing.

00:18:31 ◼   ► Hey, maybe look, maybe uh if it's a real website, please don't take any

00:18:35 ◼   ► offense.

00:18:35 ◼   ► It just it it rings some alarms for me.

00:18:40 ◼   ► That that's all.

00:18:41 ◼   ► Like, um gotta be skeptical these days.

00:18:44 ◼   ► Yeah, unfortunately.

00:18:47 ◼   ► But yeah, I mean, not r not revealing the pricing info at the September

00:18:52 ◼   ► event.

00:18:53 ◼   ► Okay.

00:18:54 ◼   ► I mean, there's just no world in which that's true.

00:18:57 ◼   ► Right.

00:18:59 ◼   ► Okay.

00:18:59 ◼   ► Absolutely not.

00:19:00 ◼   ► I mean, I found David Richards on LinkedIn.

00:19:02 ◼   ► Like, seems to be a person that exists.

00:19:06 ◼   ► Uh, so they're owned by another company.

00:19:08 ◼   ► So it's probably a real company and a real website with just really bad

00:19:12 ◼   ► opinions.

00:19:12 ◼   ► Yeah, which is fine.

00:19:14 ◼   ► I just don't I just don't buy that.

00:19:16 ◼   ► Like, yeah, I don't buy that they won't say the the amount of money

00:19:20 ◼   ► that it costs.

00:19:21 ◼   ► If like I could imagine it if like it's like Vision Pro, right?

00:19:25 ◼   ► Here's this thing.

00:19:26 ◼   ► It's not coming out now, so we'll talk about it later.

00:19:28 ◼   ► Like, but that's not the case, right?

00:19:30 ◼   ► At most it will be a couple of weeks as a as a different.

00:19:29 ◼   ► I just can't imagine that they won't talk about the pricing.

00:19:36 ◼   ► That would that's wild.

00:19:39 ◼   ► Yeah, I agree.

00:19:40 ◼   ► Anyways, I asked a Gen Z person about the dark cherry color.

00:19:44 ◼   ► And she was very thing and I'll be done.

00:19:51 ◼   ► Apple management, I there's the the full s the full sentence, which I've just

00:19:55 ◼   ► noticed.

00:19:56 ◼   ► Apple management is not expected to reveal pricing for the fold at the September

00:19:59 ◼   ► 8th event, where the iPhone 18 Pro, 18 Pro Max, and iPhone Ultra will

00:20:04 ◼   ► also be unveiled.

00:20:06 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:20:08 ◼   ► What are we doing?

00:20:09 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:20:10 ◼   ► Like that just doesn't make any sense.

00:20:11 ◼   ► What so there's an there's another secret phone called the iPhone Ultra that's not

00:20:15 ◼   ► the folding phone?

00:20:16 ◼   ► Could be.

00:20:18 ◼   ► Come on, everybody.

00:20:19 ◼   ► Let's read these articles before we link to them.

00:20:21 ◼   ► Like, what are we doing?

00:20:25 ◼   ► Okay.

00:20:26 ◼   ► Not great.

00:20:27 ◼   ► All right.

00:20:28 ◼   ► Anything else about Australia?

00:20:29 ◼   ► Mike?

00:20:30 ◼   ► And also it's not even gonna be September 8th, right?

00:20:32 ◼   ► Like, that's not even what the rumor is that like Mark Gurman is like

00:20:36 ◼   ► saying it's not gonna it's gonna be like the 9th, because it's the day

00:20:39 ◼   ► after Labor Day.

00:20:39 ◼   ► Ah come on, everyone.

00:20:42 ◼   ► Like, let's let's just do some reading.

00:20:44 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:20:45 ◼   ► Let's just read.

00:20:45 ◼   ► They shouldn't have linked to it and I we shouldn't have talked about it.

00:20:48 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:20:48 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:20:50 ◼   ► No, we've all learned a valuable lesson.

00:20:52 ◼   ► We've all learned a valuable lesson.

00:20:54 ◼   ► Don't trust Mac rumors.

00:20:55 ◼   ► Well, no, but like it's the look, the service that that sites like 9

00:21:01 ◼   ► to 5 Mac and Mac Rumors provide should be as filters of this information.

00:21:08 ◼   ► Right?

00:21:09 ◼   ► Agreed.

00:21:10 ◼   ► And so we all kind of hope that they re that they have fully

00:21:14 ◼   ► read and understood what they're linking to.

00:21:17 ◼   ► And like sometimes, I mean, I I like sometimes they will say, like, oh,

00:21:22 ◼   ► take this one with a grain of salt, da-da-da-da-da.

00:21:25 ◼   ► You know?

00:21:26 ◼   ► There's no there's no salt here.

00:21:28 ◼   ► It doesn't seem like that, no.

00:21:30 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:21:30 ◼   ► I am mostly amused by Mike going from the enthusiast to the destroyer in

00:21:36 ◼   ► this segment.

00:21:36 ◼   ► Again, I I wouldn't put this on my website.

00:21:40 ◼   ► I think I said it when we launched of like, you will get that

00:21:43 ◼   ► part of me here.

00:21:44 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:21:45 ◼   ► You know, that's what everybody gets.

00:21:47 ◼   ► When's the last time you put anything on your website?

00:21:50 ◼   ► Look, I'm busy, man.

00:21:52 ◼   ► I'm busy.

00:21:53 ◼   ► You're gonna have a post soon.

00:21:54 ◼   ► I'm back at blogging.

00:21:56 ◼   ► No, I'm not gonna do that.

00:21:57 ◼   ► I just I I the time that I would spend writing is currently being

00:22:04 ◼   ► spent editing.

00:22:05 ◼   ► Sure.

00:22:06 ◼   ► And I think it's probably more important that I edit design in California than

00:22:11 ◼   ► than write about some videos I found on YouTube.

00:22:14 ◼   ► I certainly think so.

00:22:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:22:16 ◼   ► Can I now talk about dark cherry?

00:22:18 ◼   ► I would love you to.

00:22:19 ◼   ► I'm so sorry.

00:22:20 ◼   ► Black, light blue, silver, dark cherry.

00:22:23 ◼   ► I asked a Gen Z person.

00:22:24 ◼   ► She was very excited about Dark Cherry.

00:22:26 ◼   ► It's a very Who is your daughter?

00:22:28 ◼   ► We should say No, no.

00:22:29 ◼   ► Somebody I work with.

00:22:30 ◼   ► No, okay.

00:22:31 ◼   ► Oh, oh, you work with a 16-year-old.

00:22:35 ◼   ► No, Gen Z is older than that now.

00:22:37 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:22:37 ◼   ► Okay.

00:22:38 ◼   ► Gen Z.

00:22:39 ◼   ► Okay.

00:22:41 ◼   ► Uh, we're just taking a face value that this is not your daughter.

00:22:44 ◼   ► 1997, 22, 20, 12, 12, minus 1997.

00:22:48 ◼   ► 29.

00:22:49 ◼   ► Oh my gosh.

00:22:50 ◼   ► 29 year olds are Gen Z.

00:22:52 ◼   ► So you're working with a 29 year old and you're just hacking.

00:22:54 ◼   ► This person is part of the team at CrossFord.

00:22:56 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:22:57 ◼   ► Okay.

00:22:58 ◼   ► Okay.

00:22:59 ◼   ► Not related to any of us.

00:23:01 ◼   ► Okay.

00:22:59 ◼   ► Unrelated to any of us.

00:23:02 ◼   ► And we were talking about some color stuff, and I said, hey, what do

00:23:05 ◼   ► you think about these?

00:23:05 ◼   ► And she was she was very up on dark cherry.

00:23:09 ◼   ► So maybe you know, maybe it'll do well.

00:23:12 ◼   ► Question is do we think they're going to do four?

00:23:14 ◼   ► And what do we think about these colors?

00:23:16 ◼   ► See, I don't think they're gonna do a black one.

00:23:18 ◼   ► Right?

00:23:18 ◼   ► Like they didn't last time.

00:23:21 ◼   ► I feel like it's probably two colors and a silver, but or maybe they

00:23:24 ◼   ► just people were so mad that they were gonna do a black one.

00:23:28 ◼   ► Um, but I don't know.

00:23:29 ◼   ► But I like the blue one.

00:23:31 ◼   ► I'll probably get the blue one.

00:23:32 ◼   ► I'm popular opinion here.

00:23:34 ◼   ► Yeah, man.

00:23:35 ◼   ► I find the colour conversation the most boring stuff ever.

00:23:38 ◼   ► Okay.

00:23:39 ◼   ► And I I mean, uh like I put this thing in a case.

00:23:43 ◼   ► Uh in fact, I would say I care more about cases than than the

00:23:45 ◼   ► colour of the case.

00:23:46 ◼   ► Oh, you say, well, I don't do cases, so I care about the colour.

00:23:49 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:23:49 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:23:50 ◼   ► You would care about the colour of your case because that's what you're gonna

00:23:52 ◼   ► see.

00:23:53 ◼   ► I agree that it is ridiculous that we that like there is so much

00:23:58 ◼   ► conversation spent about colour when most people don't ever see the color of their

00:24:04 ◼   ► phone.

00:24:04 ◼   ► It's important to me because it is what I see, but I understand that

00:24:08 ◼   ► like for most people, it's funny that we spend so much time focusing on

00:24:11 ◼   ► it because people just put them in a case that with whatever color that

00:24:14 ◼   ► they want in the end of it.

00:24:15 ◼   ► It should all just be silver.

00:24:18 ◼   ► I mean, it looks fine.

00:24:20 ◼   ► The light blue is very ugly from the light blue, so I'm sorry.

00:24:26 ◼   ► I don't like the cherry.

00:24:27 ◼   ► That's not for me.

00:24:28 ◼   ► I don't think in these images, but again, you never know how it's actually

00:24:32 ◼   ► gonna turn out.

00:24:33 ◼   ► So we'll see.

00:24:34 ◼   ► Okay.

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00:26:04 ◼   ► And now is the time.

00:26:05 ◼   ► Got an M4 MacBook Pro from a few years ago.

00:26:10 ◼   ► And I feel like it's it's it's approaching uh its time.

00:26:15 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:26:16 ◼   ► Maybe it's Golden Gate.

00:26:18 ◼   ► Maybe it's Golden Gate.

00:26:20 ◼   ► Uh maybe it's the fact that I've really pushed this computer over the past

00:26:25 ◼   ► year.

00:26:25 ◼   ► But it gets hot very often.

00:26:30 ◼   ► The battery is not what it used to be.

00:26:43 ◼   ► Codex the codex app on the Mac has been problematic for like the way

00:26:47 ◼   ► that it was writing cash files and accessing those large files over and over.

00:26:54 ◼   ► Which supposedly OpenAI fixed uh a couple of months ago.

00:26:58 ◼   ► Uh but the performance hasn't been great.

00:27:01 ◼   ► Um I don't know.

00:27:02 ◼   ► It just feels like it's it's more sluggish now than it's ever been.

00:27:08 ◼   ► And look, and and again, maybe it's Golden Gate, maybe it isn't, although wasn't

00:27:13 ◼   ► Golden Gate supposed to be like a more stable release?

00:27:16 ◼   ► Uh Golden Gate's been okay on my MacBook Neo.

00:27:19 ◼   ► So I don't know.

00:27:22 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:27:22 ◼   ► I feel like I will soon be I will soon be in the market

00:27:26 ◼   ► for a new laptop.

00:27:27 ◼   ► I don't want to buy a new laptop because I really love this computer.

00:27:30 ◼   ► The only way that I would upgrade this MacBook would be to a fancy

00:27:34 ◼   ► one with OLED and touch.

00:27:36 ◼   ► Sure.

00:27:36 ◼   ► Um, so I I I don't even want to consider anything else in the

00:27:40 ◼   ► meantime.

00:27:41 ◼   ► I will just travel with an external battery pack and power adapters and try

00:27:48 ◼   ► to close uh my apps more frequently than before.

00:27:52 ◼   ► But yeah, uh, and also for sure, my next laptop I am gonna try

00:27:57 ◼   ► and save and get the version with the most RAM that I can because

00:28:02 ◼   ► that's the one thing that I wish I I spent a little extra money

00:28:06 ◼   ► on, yeah, two and a half years ago when I got this computer.

00:28:10 ◼   ► Um so do we know when that's coming out?

00:28:13 ◼   ► Is it gonna be 27?

00:28:15 ◼   ► Probably not.

00:28:16 ◼   ► I don't think I think I don't think at this point it's this year.

00:28:19 ◼   ► So um we're gonna let it ride until 27.

00:28:22 ◼   ► Yeah, and then we'll get the MacBook Pro.

00:28:25 ◼   ► I mean I've got an M4 Max MacBook Pro, and I that has not

00:28:28 ◼   ► been my experience at all.

00:28:30 ◼   ► Maybe you just have a bunch of like tiny same altmans running around your

00:28:34 ◼   ► computer.

00:28:34 ◼   ► Maybe that you can't find.

00:28:36 ◼   ► The open weight models are duplicating.

00:28:39 ◼   ► They are they're hanging on to hanging onto every piece of RAM you have

00:28:45 ◼   ► and then running running wild in there.

00:28:48 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:28:50 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:28:50 ◼   ► But yeah, I don't think uh at this point, I don't I don't think

00:28:53 ◼   ► the OLED is this year.

00:28:55 ◼   ► Um I mean, I could certainly be wrong.

00:28:57 ◼   ► I would like to be wrong because I'm very interested in that computer, but

00:29:00 ◼   ► I just don't I just don't think it's gonna happen.

00:29:04 ◼   ► They can barely ship what they're selling now.

00:29:06 ◼   ► You know.

00:29:07 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:29:09 ◼   ► I don't remember what Mark Gomez lost if he's still saying like as early

00:29:14 ◼   ► as this year or whatever, you know.

00:29:17 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:29:17 ◼   ► Um but at this point I think it's probably all just moving around too

00:29:22 ◼   ► much for anybody to try and grab a hand off of like when these

00:29:25 ◼   ► things are gonna be coming out and when they're not.

00:29:27 ◼   ► Um but it you know, it's it it depends on do they have other

00:29:31 ◼   ► stuff that they want to ship or not?

00:29:33 ◼   ► We'll we'll have to find out.

00:29:36 ◼   ► Have you looked at like activity monitoring stuff, Federica?

00:29:39 ◼   ► You could you have a handle on on what the computer says it's doing?

00:29:43 ◼   ► Yeah, before when we were doing the follow-up segment, the fans were spinning again,

00:29:48 ◼   ► and it was codecs.

00:29:50 ◼   ► So I quit codecs, and now it's gotten better.

00:29:52 ◼   ► Now the my problem is the totally generic stuff.

00:29:56 ◼   ► Like, for example, two gigabytes on Windows server.

00:29:59 ◼   ► What is Windows Server?

00:30:00 ◼   ► I I was having a lot of problem with Windows Server on my MacBook

00:30:03 ◼   ► Ad.

00:30:04 ◼   ► One gigabyte kernel task.

00:30:06 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:30:07 ◼   ► Okay.

00:30:07 ◼   ► You got a kernel.

00:30:08 ◼   ► Um you need the kernel.

00:30:10 ◼   ► Um it's just random things that start spinning up and then quiet down with

00:30:17 ◼   ► no apparent reason.

00:30:20 ◼   ► So I currently have 48 gigabytes of memory on kernel task and activate.

00:30:27 ◼   ► Let me look at my that doesn't seem right.

00:30:29 ◼   ► Sexy.

00:30:30 ◼   ► Okay.

00:30:31 ◼   ► Doesn't seem right.

00:30:31 ◼   ► What's he doing?

00:30:33 ◼   ► What are you doing?

00:30:34 ◼   ► Something's happening.

00:30:35 ◼   ► I've got two gigs to Windows Server.

00:30:38 ◼   ► Um Chrome helper has a gig.

00:30:41 ◼   ► It's fine.

00:30:42 ◼   ► 47 gigabytes is a lot, bro.

00:30:44 ◼   ► When's the last time you restarted those things?

00:30:46 ◼   ► Jeez.

00:30:47 ◼   ► Restarted what things do you have?

00:30:50 ◼   ► How many windows do you have open, Mike?

00:30:52 ◼   ► Like not many.

00:30:53 ◼   ► Not many.

00:30:54 ◼   ► Not many.

00:30:54 ◼   ► And there aren't many apps open either.

00:30:56 ◼   ► I'm not I'm not like doing anything wild in here, but I got 48

00:31:00 ◼   ► gigabytes of memory being assigned to kernel underscore underscore task.

00:31:04 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:31:06 ◼   ► So the kernel probably isn't important.

00:31:09 ◼   ► Should I just quit it?

00:31:10 ◼   ► Uh no.

00:31:11 ◼   ► Please don't just press the X button.

00:31:14 ◼   ► You should re force quit force quit Windows Server and kernel task.

00:31:17 ◼   ► See what happens.

00:31:19 ◼   ► Kill all.

00:31:21 ◼   ► Just do it.

00:31:21 ◼   ► Just do it.

00:31:22 ◼   ► Open terminal.

00:31:23 ◼   ► What should I type in Federator?

00:31:24 ◼   ► Oh, but oh, by the way, by the way.

00:31:26 ◼   ► This is uh now now that I mentioned terminal.

00:31:30 ◼   ► Really unrelated, but a really nasty thing that happened to me yesterday.

00:31:38 ◼   ► So I am setting up a Mac Mini uh from scratch in my little

00:31:45 ◼   ► data center in my storage unit.

00:31:48 ◼   ► And I'm doing some of the initial setup myself manually, like I always do.

00:31:53 ◼   ► I want to do that.

00:31:53 ◼   ► Hey, how did you get networking down there?

00:31:58 ◼   ► Well, let me tell you a story.

00:32:00 ◼   ► Um so I I'm doing the setup, I'm installing one password and and enabling

00:32:07 ◼   ► SSH, like all the things that I do myself.

00:32:10 ◼   ► And then I open Google and I Google uh Codex app for Mac.

00:32:16 ◼   ► And I click on the first result, and I'm trying to find it again,

00:32:20 ◼   ► but it's gone.

00:32:21 ◼   ► So uh the first result looks like an open AI domain, and it says

00:32:26 ◼   ► download the codex app for Mac.

00:32:28 ◼   ► And I click on it and I land on this page that looks like

00:32:31 ◼   ► the OpenAI website with a screenshot of codecs for Mac.

00:32:35 ◼   ► And it says Codex for Mac, you can use the app, you can use

00:32:39 ◼   ► the CLI.

00:32:40 ◼   ► Uh you can start the installation by copying and pasting this terminal command.

00:32:44 ◼   ► And without even thinking about it, I copy the command, then I open terminal

00:32:48 ◼   ► and I hit paste, and I look at it, and it's a giant string

00:32:52 ◼   ► of text.

00:32:54 ◼   ► And I stop before hitting enter, and I'm like, wait, am I getting physed

00:32:59 ◼   ► right now?

00:33:00 ◼   ► And yes, uh, there was a Google search result that masqueraded as the OpenAI

00:33:07 ◼   ► website and drove people to downloading the codex app for Mac.

00:33:12 ◼   ► Even the beginning of the terminal command looked right because they were hitting this

00:33:18 ◼   ► fake open AI website.

00:33:19 ◼   ► It was probably like open al.com or something like that instead of the letter

00:33:24 ◼   ► Y.

00:33:25 ◼   ► Um, but at the very end of the command, there were like some like

00:33:28 ◼   ► long string of text that was probably like some encoded, like base 64 encoded

00:33:36 ◼   ► command that I'm sure was gonna install malware on your computer.

00:33:40 ◼   ► But that brings me to a semi-related topic.

00:33:44 ◼   ► Well, because you mentioned the terminal.

00:33:47 ◼   ► Didn't Apple put in place some kind of safeguards that were supposed to tell

00:33:52 ◼   ► you if if you copied a terminal command in your clipboard that were dangerous

00:33:57 ◼   ► to run.

00:33:58 ◼   ► Did I make this up?

00:34:00 ◼   ► No, it it's I don't know.

00:34:02 ◼   ► Because it didn't work.

00:34:03 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't know what triggers it if there's if they're looking for certain

00:34:07 ◼   ► arguments or commands that you're gonna paste in, but they have done some stuff

00:34:11 ◼   ► around that.

00:34:13 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm looking, Jason wrote about it.

00:34:16 ◼   ► There are some very specific scenarios, I think, in which it does ask you

00:34:21 ◼   ► that.

00:34:22 ◼   ► Um but I don't know what they are off the top of my head.

00:34:26 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:34:26 ◼   ► Anyway, uh they almost got me, but not this time.

00:34:31 ◼   ► In 26.4, Apple looks for specific strings on the clipboard and blocks them with

00:34:36 ◼   ► a warning.

00:34:38 ◼   ► There you go.

00:34:39 ◼   ► Maybe it just didn't trigger that.

00:34:41 ◼   ► Yeah, I would I would hope.

00:34:43 ◼   ► I don't know that this would be true, but I would hope that they

00:34:46 ◼   ► could update that list remotely, like they do with X Protect.

00:34:49 ◼   ► So if something new surfaces, they could update that list and you would be

00:34:57 ◼   ► safe, you know, before like the next Mac OS release.

00:35:00 ◼   ► I'm not sure how that works under the hood, but I would hope that's

00:35:02 ◼   ► how they do it.

00:35:04 ◼   ► That's scary, Federico.

00:35:06 ◼   ► That is a little scary.

00:35:08 ◼   ► That's not good.

00:35:10 ◼   ► Pay attention to the things you copy.

00:35:12 ◼   ► Don't yeah, don't paste stuff from the internet to your terminal unless you know

00:35:14 ◼   ► it know it is doing.

00:35:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:35:16 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:35:17 ◼   ► Speaking of Mac OS and Golden Gate, we are on beta five now on

00:35:23 ◼   ► the developer side of things.

00:35:26 ◼   ► Uh a couple of changes on the iOS front, the liquid glass slider, the

00:35:31 ◼   ► clear end, it seems more clear.

00:35:33 ◼   ► Is that how is that y'all's impression of it?

00:35:35 ◼   ► It's like people are saying this, but like I don't I didn't notice it.

00:35:39 ◼   ► That's kind of yeah, that's kind of how I feel.

00:35:42 ◼   ► You can see some before and afters in places, and like, okay, when you

00:35:45 ◼   ► show me that, I guess I see it, but I didn't notice it using

00:35:49 ◼   ► my iPhone for multiple days, and I have it on the maximum clearness.

00:35:54 ◼   ► Yeah, I have been all over the place with my setting, and I'm a

00:36:01 ◼   ► little ashamed to admit I kind of like it the more opaque.

00:36:06 ◼   ► You shouldn't have to do it.

00:36:06 ◼   ► Less opaque, more less transparent.

00:36:10 ◼   ► I like it.

00:36:11 ◼   ► Do you mean the clearest?

00:36:12 ◼   ► The least clear.

00:36:14 ◼   ► Oh my god, I still don't know what it was.

00:36:17 ◼   ► So on one end, it's the clearest liquid glass.

00:36:20 ◼   ► And on the other end, it's the least clear.

00:36:23 ◼   ► You can see less through it.

00:36:25 ◼   ► Hold on.

00:36:25 ◼   ► Just say the opposite.

00:36:27 ◼   ► Stop saying least clear.

00:36:29 ◼   ► The most unclear.

00:36:31 ◼   ► No, no, no.

00:36:33 ◼   ► You are the most unclear.

00:36:35 ◼   ► It's clear and opaque.

00:36:37 ◼   ► Right?

00:36:38 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:36:38 ◼   ► I'm on the opaque end of things.

00:36:40 ◼   ► Oh.

00:36:40 ◼   ► Tinted.

00:36:41 ◼   ► This is what I've got.

00:36:42 ◼   ► Tinted.

00:36:43 ◼   ► Thank you, Zoe.

00:36:43 ◼   ► You should be ashamed of that, yes.

00:36:45 ◼   ► I kinda well part of it is I changed my lock screen photo for

00:36:49 ◼   ► the first time in years.

00:36:51 ◼   ► And the new one really struggles with super clear notifications.

00:36:57 ◼   ► Okay.

00:36:57 ◼   ► And I like the picture.

00:37:00 ◼   ► So I don't know.

00:37:01 ◼   ► Have you tried using your phone in dark mode?

00:37:03 ◼   ► I do every night.

00:36:59 ◼   ► I'm like Federico.

00:37:05 ◼   ► Day mode, day phone, night mode, day phone.

00:37:08 ◼   ► Same phone, different modes.

00:37:10 ◼   ► Night mode, day phone.

00:37:11 ◼   ► In this economy, you can't afford a day phone and a nightphone, so you

00:37:14 ◼   ► just have two modes on one phone.

00:37:16 ◼   ► Okay.

00:37:17 ◼   ► Because it does look a little better in general.

00:37:19 ◼   ► Like the clarity's a little better because it does a bit of tinting to

00:37:22 ◼   ► the well, it it changes the color of the glass a little bit.

00:37:25 ◼   ► But no, I'm all the way to the maximum.

00:37:27 ◼   ► Something I always find so funny.

00:37:28 ◼   ► Any social media post that is about this, you always find people saying, No,

00:37:34 ◼   ► more clear.

00:37:34 ◼   ► Go back to 26 beta one.

00:37:36 ◼   ► Which I just uh some of this stuff is just so funny to me.

00:37:39 ◼   ► Um, but it's people want more clear.

00:37:42 ◼   ► Uh and they also want less clear, like Steven, I guess.

00:37:45 ◼   ► More less clear.

00:37:47 ◼   ► More or less clear.

00:37:49 ◼   ► More or less clear.

00:37:50 ◼   ► A couple other things in here.

00:37:52 ◼   ► A bunch of updated icons, which I think on the whole look good.

00:37:58 ◼   ► I don't think any of them are regression.

00:38:00 ◼   ► I particularly like the new preview icon, and it's not on Golden Gate.

00:38:05 ◼   ► Golden Gate still has the previous one.

00:38:07 ◼   ► Um I hope they change it on the Mac.

00:38:09 ◼   ► It preview has been the same since the beginning.

00:38:12 ◼   ► You know, come back to the Mac.

00:38:13 ◼   ► Back to the Mac.

00:38:14 ◼   ► Craig Federig's up there, his hand is shaking.

00:38:17 ◼   ► But I I think that um they're doing a good job with the icons.

00:38:21 ◼   ► Um and then I like the Safari one.

00:38:23 ◼   ► I don't know exactly I can't tell you exactly what's changed about the Safari

00:38:27 ◼   ► icon, but I like it.

00:38:28 ◼   ► There's a there's a pin in the middle or something.

00:38:31 ◼   ► Okay.

00:38:32 ◼   ► It just feels like the overall the whole thing just feels more vibrant.

00:38:35 ◼   ► Like the sound more.

00:38:38 ◼   ► There's a like a pin that holds the two uh uh arms of compass?

00:38:44 ◼   ► Yeah, not the compass points.

00:38:46 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:38:46 ◼   ► Like the little the little white star in the mid.

00:38:44 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:38:49 ◼   ► The thing.

00:38:44 ◼   ► The less clear, less clear.

00:38:51 ◼   ► Less clear, more opaque.

00:38:54 ◼   ► Least opaque?

00:38:55 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:38:55 ◼   ► More more north.

00:38:56 ◼   ► Less south.

00:38:57 ◼   ► More less north?

00:38:58 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:38:58 ◼   ► Less north.

00:39:00 ◼   ► I just wished I could see the Siri icon.

00:39:02 ◼   ► I I wished I could change it to the dark mode Siri icon.

00:39:06 ◼   ► I I like it.

00:39:07 ◼   ► I like the black Siri icon more than the white Siri icon.

00:39:11 ◼   ► Huh.

00:39:12 ◼   ► I actually, you know what?

00:39:13 ◼   ► I agree.

00:39:14 ◼   ► I think the light mode one is kind of bad.

00:39:16 ◼   ► Yeah, and so I want the dark mode one, but I can't do anything

00:39:19 ◼   ► about that because I don't like I don't like dark mode icons.

00:39:24 ◼   ► I don't like the way that they look.

00:39:26 ◼   ► And so I'm kind of stuck.

00:39:28 ◼   ► I just wished Apple would let me choose.

00:39:29 ◼   ► Just like a good let's just like the good indie app that Siri is.

00:39:33 ◼   ► Um I would like to be able to change my icon by design.

00:39:37 ◼   ► Okay.

00:39:38 ◼   ► I I will say that beta five has been the most buggy that I've

00:39:43 ◼   ► used.

00:39:44 ◼   ► I have a hilarious bug in messages.

00:39:47 ◼   ► Oh, well the the the top of the UI cuts off the top of

00:39:50 ◼   ► your messages.

00:39:52 ◼   ► You have to scroll down and up again to be able to tap into

00:39:55 ◼   ► your top row of pin messages.

00:39:57 ◼   ► But it's the most important row.

00:39:59 ◼   ► I have this other bug where if I open some apps, the uh the

00:40:03 ◼   ► ability to swipe to at the bottom to go back to the home screen

00:40:08 ◼   ► um stops working, and I have to lock my phone and unlock it again.

00:40:13 ◼   ► Like I actually, no.

00:40:15 ◼   ► I just opened the Siri app and I cannot back I cannot go back

00:40:20 ◼   ► to the home screen.

00:40:20 ◼   ► Swiping at the bottom does nothing.

00:40:22 ◼   ► Well, because I lock it up.

00:40:23 ◼   ► Oh, I'm hello.

00:40:24 ◼   ► This is my worst nightmare.

00:40:25 ◼   ► I'm stuck in Siri AI forever.

00:40:28 ◼   ► Well, you don't need anything else, you know.

00:40:29 ◼   ► No, but really, how do I go back to Siri?

00:40:33 ◼   ► Go back to the home screen.

00:40:35 ◼   ► I I don't know what to do.

00:40:37 ◼   ► Does it do it?

00:40:38 ◼   ► No, it opened.

00:40:39 ◼   ► Oh my god, it opened the home app.

00:40:42 ◼   ► Hey, at least it let me swipe back, okay?

00:40:44 ◼   ► Maybe close out say that.

00:40:49 ◼   ► You can go back to the lock screen.

00:40:51 ◼   ► It'll it'll give you the functionality back.

00:40:53 ◼   ► I've I've haven't this to you.

00:40:56 ◼   ► I haven't had that problem, but I do have a problem is sometimes the

00:40:58 ◼   ► keyboard just doesn't appear.

00:40:59 ◼   ► It's getting directions to home now, but I am home.

00:41:02 ◼   ► Siri.

00:41:02 ◼   ► Oh my god.

00:41:04 ◼   ► Go home.

00:41:05 ◼   ► Go home.

00:41:06 ◼   ► Go to the home screen.

00:41:08 ◼   ► It knows you saw the Odyssey.

00:41:09 ◼   ► You know, it's less, yeah, it's like he's gotta send him home.

00:41:12 ◼   ► Less app.

00:41:13 ◼   ► Less clear, more app.

00:41:14 ◼   ► More home.

00:41:15 ◼   ► To go to the home screen, swipe up from the bottom edge of the

00:41:18 ◼   ► screen.

00:41:19 ◼   ► You're telling me.

00:41:20 ◼   ► I mean, how I want to.

00:41:21 ◼   ► How did they break that?

00:41:23 ◼   ► That feels like that should not be something they can touch.

00:41:25 ◼   ► To be able what, like the ability to swipe?

00:41:27 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:41:28 ◼   ► Yeah, that is incredible.

00:41:29 ◼   ► Like I don't even.

00:41:31 ◼   ► Does it work if you do that like double swipe?

00:41:33 ◼   ► You know, like sometimes you play a game and you have to swipe and

00:41:36 ◼   ► then swipe again to go home.

00:41:37 ◼   ► Because like the first swipe kind of activates the ability to swipe.

00:41:40 ◼   ► Is it doing that?

00:41:41 ◼   ► Or it just 100% locks you out?

00:41:44 ◼   ► Um hard to say.

00:41:47 ◼   ► I think Federico's gone home is the problem.

00:41:50 ◼   ► Yeah, no, I I'm giving up.

00:41:52 ◼   ► I'm giving up.

00:41:53 ◼   ► And it's just one of the many issues of Siri AI, but yeah.

00:41:56 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:41:57 ◼   ► They've added more accents uh in the Siri voices.

00:42:00 ◼   ► I think it's British English, which is good because I've been able to bring

00:42:04 ◼   ► back the northern accent person that I enjoy very much.

00:42:07 ◼   ► Um, and what I like, I mean, I I can hear it more in

00:42:11 ◼   ► the British English than I did in American English, is the kind of I

00:42:16 ◼   ► think it's expressive, you know, like that it actually just makes the accent thicker,

00:42:21 ◼   ► which is brilliant.

00:42:22 ◼   ► Uh the expressivity um of this is a British three, that is my my

00:42:27 ◼   ► chosen voice.

00:42:28 ◼   ► And as you change the expressivity, which I didn't know was a word, but

00:42:32 ◼   ► I like that expressivity.

00:42:33 ◼   ► Uh it uh it just makes it makes the accent thicker, which is uh

00:42:37 ◼   ► fun for me.

00:42:38 ◼   ► I have it on the middle, um, middle, and then just a little bit

00:42:41 ◼   ► faster.

00:42:42 ◼   ► Uh just one right.

00:42:44 ◼   ► American six pace middle express expressativity one from the top.

00:42:52 ◼   ► I I would tell you if I could open open settings.

00:42:56 ◼   ► Sorry.

00:42:58 ◼   ► He's in prison.

00:42:58 ◼   ► He's probably in prison.

00:43:00 ◼   ► I'm sure you have pace to maximum.

00:43:03 ◼   ► Americ American voice six.

00:43:05 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:43:06 ◼   ► Troll pig.

00:43:07 ◼   ► Just give pace can go faster now.

00:43:10 ◼   ► Okay.

00:43:10 ◼   ► Give give British three a try.

00:43:12 ◼   ► Just just give it a try.

00:43:13 ◼   ► British three?

00:43:14 ◼   ► Yes, a good thing.

00:43:15 ◼   ► Can you demo the voice?

00:43:16 ◼   ► Okay.

00:43:17 ◼   ► Let's find the right voice for you.

00:43:18 ◼   ► I'll practice some things I like to say while you're going to be able

00:43:20 ◼   ► to do that.

00:43:20 ◼   ► Oh, this is this look this sounds nice, but it's it's like a voice

00:43:25 ◼   ► of someone you'd hear on one of these British TV shows where someone gets

00:43:28 ◼   ► murdered in a small town.

00:43:30 ◼   ► I'm gonna make it Irish.

00:43:32 ◼   ► Extremely specific.

00:43:35 ◼   ► No, you know what, Mike?

00:43:36 ◼   ► I'm gonna make it Australian.

00:43:38 ◼   ► Australian is the Australian Siri voices are great, but I don't know if they've

00:43:41 ◼   ► added have they added those into the the new system?

00:43:44 ◼   ► Yeah, but that Siri voice says, you know, that the phone's not not shipping,

00:43:47 ◼   ► so can't be trusted.

00:43:49 ◼   ► Oh, only only British has the new settings.

00:43:52 ◼   ► What are what are we talking?

00:43:53 ◼   ► What are we talking about?

00:43:56 ◼   ► What was the topic?

00:43:57 ◼   ► Oh, yes, beta five.

00:44:00 ◼   ► Uh there's something I noticed uh shared by a friend of the show Steven

00:43:59 ◼   ► Robles and got an article on 95 Mac here.

00:44:06 ◼   ► Um he was playing around with the home app and it said uh it

00:44:12 ◼   ► gave him the message upgrade your iCloud Plus plan for more Apple intelligence get

00:44:16 ◼   ► more access to Apple intelligence features increase storage and more now there was no

00:44:22 ◼   ► option for him to do this uh because there is like a a limit

00:44:25 ◼   ► on the amount of cameras that you can have on the current top level

00:44:30 ◼   ► iCloud plus plan to be able to get the new intelligence features so it

00:44:35 ◼   ► appears that more tiers are on the way uh for iCloud Plus people be

00:44:39 ◼   ► crying all right what you said more tears on the way crying sorry I

00:44:47 ◼   ► did not understand but it was a really good joke more tears or less

00:44:50 ◼   ► tears this was one of those stories that went around people like oh you

00:44:54 ◼   ► gotta pay for more for series like yeah they said that WWE C was

00:44:58 ◼   ► no one listening like this is not well actually they said it was on

00:45:02 ◼   ► that the no the news is that it's not just the ones that exist

00:45:07 ◼   ► like that was not made clear like they said that uh iClo being an

00:45:11 ◼   ► iP iCloud plus subscriber would get you access to some of the more intense

00:45:16 ◼   ► things but they didn't indicate that there will be additional tiers of iCloud plus

00:45:21 ◼   ► on top of what currently exists that would get you even more than that

00:45:26 ◼   ► so like that is the news here is that you know the two terabyte

00:45:30 ◼   ► plan there will be more okay that you know and that will get you

00:45:34 ◼   ► even more than there currently is.

00:45:36 ◼   ► More more less cameras.

00:45:38 ◼   ► More.

00:45:39 ◼   ► Fewer cameras.

00:45:39 ◼   ► Oh gosh.

00:45:40 ◼   ► Okay.

00:45:40 ◼   ► I made the I made the critical mistake.

00:45:42 ◼   ► Jim, cut that.

00:45:43 ◼   ► I know it.

00:45:43 ◼   ► The fewer and less rule.

00:45:44 ◼   ► Cut it.

00:45:44 ◼   ► Cut it.

00:45:45 ◼   ► Cut it.

00:45:45 ◼   ► No, he doesn't.

00:45:46 ◼   ► That is not in the Stephen Hackers talking about it.

00:45:47 ◼   ► Cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it.

00:45:49 ◼   ► He has no idea what fewer or less means.

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00:49:05 ◼   ► And so the the tiny topic right after this is called review checking.

00:49:13 ◼   ► You want to bundle them together?

00:49:14 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean it's it's yeah, yes.

00:49:17 ◼   ► Uh there were two questions.

00:49:18 ◼   ► How is TC feeling?

00:49:20 ◼   ► When does the writing begin?

00:49:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:49:22 ◼   ► Look, um many people are saying that I should start writing.

00:49:30 ◼   ► Many people.

00:49:31 ◼   ► So many people around me, they just won't stop saying it.

00:49:36 ◼   ► Are these people named John?

00:49:39 ◼   ► Are these people here with us right now?

00:49:41 ◼   ► Are they in the group chat with us right now?

00:49:43 ◼   ► Are they taller than me?

00:49:44 ◼   ► You know, all these questions, all these things, the usual questions.

00:49:48 ◼   ► No, um no, look, I haven't I haven't started writing.

00:49:52 ◼   ► It feels late, Federico.

00:49:55 ◼   ► No, no, every see every year you you, and by you I mean y'all,

00:50:01 ◼   ► you and me, Stephen and specifically me, yeah.

00:50:04 ◼   ► You John, Federico, it's getting late.

00:50:07 ◼   ► Oh my god, man, you should start writing the review.

00:50:10 ◼   ► How are you feeling?

00:50:11 ◼   ► Why haven't you started?

00:50:12 ◼   ► You sound like my mom when I like when I tell my mom worried

00:50:16 ◼   ► about you.

00:50:16 ◼   ► When I tell my mom I'm going to go.

00:50:22 ◼   ► When when no, when I tell my mom I'm going on a trip, she's

00:50:25 ◼   ► like, Federico, don't drive too fast.

00:50:27 ◼   ► I know how you drive, don't drive too fast.

00:50:30 ◼   ► No, mom.

00:50:31 ◼   ► Sounds like good advice from mom.

00:50:32 ◼   ► Honestly, it does.

00:50:34 ◼   ► It's good advice, but she constantly worries like I'm about to die or something.

00:50:39 ◼   ► Um anyway, all of this.

00:50:41 ◼   ► My problem, all this to say, my problem.

00:50:46 ◼   ► My problem.

00:50:47 ◼   ► So I was actually talking to Silvia about this, and this year, iOS 27

00:50:53 ◼   ► and iPad OS 27, they're obviously not as exciting for me as specifically iPad

00:50:59 ◼   ► OS was last year.

00:51:03 ◼   ► Um, just the nature of the update, the fact that I got to interview

00:51:07 ◼   ► Craig Federigi before, and then it was all about iPad, right?

00:51:11 ◼   ► That was very exciting.

00:51:12 ◼   ► And also I was very excited about the new design.

00:51:15 ◼   ► It's difficult to get excited about a software update, mostly about um bug fixes,

00:51:22 ◼   ► performance improvements, and some smaller refinements here and there across the entire OS.

00:51:29 ◼   ► I was hoping that throughout the summer, my excitement for Siri AI would grow,

00:51:36 ◼   ► and it hasn't happened yet.

00:51:38 ◼   ► In fact, I think it's gotten worse for me.

00:51:42 ◼   ► I do not have a use case for Siri AI beyond just having a

00:51:49 ◼   ► better Siri than before.

00:51:50 ◼   ► And then of course it depends, right?

00:51:52 ◼   ► Because as you just heard, even just asking go back to the home screen

00:51:55 ◼   ► can trip up the thing.

00:51:57 ◼   ► I am fully aware of the fact that this lack of excitement is because

00:52:03 ◼   ► part of my brain has been poisoned by frontier AI models by other companies.

00:52:08 ◼   ► Yes.

00:52:08 ◼   ► Right.

00:52:09 ◼   ► And it's like I keep thinking of something that you told me, Mike, many,

00:52:14 ◼   ► many years ago.

00:52:15 ◼   ► Like when you fly business class for the first time, it ruins you for

00:52:20 ◼   ► your entire life.

00:52:22 ◼   ► And this is what happened to me with frontier models.

00:52:25 ◼   ► I have been poisoned by the excellent performance.

00:52:29 ◼   ► The business class of AI, basically.

00:52:31 ◼   ► I have been poisoned by the business class of AI.

00:52:33 ◼   ► And now that I'm flying coach with Siri AI, I'm I'm just I'm I'm

00:52:37 ◼   ► trying to use it, but like I'm picking ahead at 1A sitting in front

00:52:42 ◼   ► of me and be like, ah, yes, that's the good spot.

00:52:45 ◼   ► And and every time I use Siri AI and I ask a question and

00:52:48 ◼   ► I get an answer, I'm like, hmm, is this a good answer?

00:52:51 ◼   ► I think I will probably get something better out of ChatGPT Pro or something,

00:52:56 ◼   ► right?

00:52:56 ◼   ► Um it's not that exciting for me, and I haven't had every summer.

00:53:04 ◼   ► I have a moment when I'm like, ah, this is the moment, this is

00:53:09 ◼   ► my angle.

00:53:11 ◼   ► This encapsulates the story that I'm gonna write.

00:53:14 ◼   ► And that has not happened yet.

00:53:17 ◼   ► And maybe it's due to the fact that Apple is still changing the APIs

00:53:22 ◼   ► for third-party developers that want to integrate with Siri AI.

00:53:24 ◼   ► In beta five, yes, in beta five, they're changing things again.

00:53:28 ◼   ► Um maybe it's look, look, I've been trying, or I've been I've been really

00:53:35 ◼   ► trying to switch my workflow to be more Apple compliant.

00:53:42 ◼   ► And I'll talk about this in September.

00:53:44 ◼   ► I am fully after a year, I'm trying to use Apple notes instead of

00:53:49 ◼   ► Notion.

00:53:50 ◼   ► I'm trying to use Apple Music instead of Spotify.

00:53:53 ◼   ► I'm trying to use iMessage more than Slack.

00:53:56 ◼   ► I am really trying to make an effort to use apps on my devices

00:54:01 ◼   ► that I know can be data sources for Siri AI.

00:54:05 ◼   ► It's just not clicking.

00:54:06 ◼   ► The personal context is not working.

00:54:08 ◼   ► Uh on on the next episode of App Stories.

00:54:11 ◼   ► Um, uh I will do this demo live on the show, but I can

00:54:14 ◼   ► talk about it now because we recorded yesterday.

00:54:17 ◼   ► I was literally trying to ask Siri AI, what is something that John told

00:54:22 ◼   ► me three hours ago on iMessage.

00:54:24 ◼   ► Siri had no idea.

00:54:26 ◼   ► My custom plugin for iMessage with co with Chat GPT voice mode found the

00:54:31 ◼   ► message in five seconds.

00:54:29 ◼   ► And it gave me a great answer.

00:54:34 ◼   ► So like I'm really trying to use this thing, but the model is not

00:54:39 ◼   ► good.

00:54:40 ◼   ► And once you get used to a really good model, and you try this,

00:54:45 ◼   ► it's passable.

00:54:46 ◼   ► Look, it it's a passable model, it gives you decent world knowledge, but once

00:54:53 ◼   ► you try the real thing, and by real thing, I mean let's face it,

00:54:57 ◼   ► there are two, maybe three frontier AI companies right now, like it or not.

00:55:03 ◼   ► It's OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceX.

00:55:06 ◼   ► And once you try one of those, going back to Siri AI, it's like

00:55:10 ◼   ► using GPT-4 from two years ago.

00:55:14 ◼   ► I've been thinking about this.

00:55:15 ◼   ► I've been thinking about you.

00:55:17 ◼   ► Uh yeah.

00:55:18 ◼   ► I was I was having this thought the other day because uh I don't

00:55:21 ◼   ► even remember what it was I was listening to of you, but I was

00:55:23 ◼   ► thinking about this exact thing and knowing that you would still be in this

00:55:27 ◼   ► feeling.

00:55:28 ◼   ► And I think the place that I have settled on here is that and

00:55:34 ◼   ► I think I've meant we've spoken about this before, but Siri AI is not

00:55:38 ◼   ► attempting to compete with the products that you're using.

00:55:44 ◼   ► Okay.

00:55:45 ◼   ► What it is doing, what what it does is just makes the phone assistant

00:55:52 ◼   ► good.

00:55:53 ◼   ► Like it's not the rest of it, it's just it.

00:55:57 ◼   ► I think it does because if I ask you to go back to the

00:56:00 ◼   ► home screen and you don't, and if I ask you to find a message

00:56:03 ◼   ► and you don't, then what kind of assistant are you?

00:56:07 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, but this is the this is the I think the really

00:56:10 ◼   ► frustrating thing is that I do often have great experiences of it finding messages

00:56:14 ◼   ► and emails.

00:56:21 ◼   ► And why and I want to have those experiences too.

00:56:23 ◼   ► So why don't I have them?

00:56:25 ◼   ► Exactly.

00:56:25 ◼   ► That and I think that is.

00:56:27 ◼   ► What am I doing wrong here?

00:56:28 ◼   ► Yes.

00:56:29 ◼   ► That is the frustrating part where it feels like there are there are wildly

00:56:34 ◼   ► different experiences from person to person, and we can't explain.

00:56:39 ◼   ► And and and it's frustrating, right?

00:56:41 ◼   ► Because it's a non-deterministic type of scenario where we can go back to two

00:56:46 ◼   ► years ago where I really disliked stage manager, maybe somebody else liked it, but

00:56:52 ◼   ► the the topic of contention in the middle could be objectively measured.

00:56:58 ◼   ► That's what it was for everyone.

00:57:00 ◼   ► We can all agree on the way it works.

00:57:04 ◼   ► We can all agree on the product.

00:57:06 ◼   ► Yeah, maybe you like it, maybe you don't, but the product is the product.

00:57:10 ◼   ► Here, the product is constantly shifting for everybody.

00:57:13 ◼   ► Welcome to non-deterministic LLMs, right?

00:57:16 ◼   ► Sure.

00:57:17 ◼   ► But at the very least, other companies have pretty much landed in a place

00:57:24 ◼   ► where if a model is good, it tends to be good for everybody.

00:57:30 ◼   ► Whereas I keep seeing this, and it's not just me, right?

00:57:33 ◼   ► I'm taking a look on social media, I'm I'm taking a look on Reddit.

00:57:38 ◼   ► Some people saying I absolutely love it, other people saying it's useless.

00:57:43 ◼   ► And I don't understand why.

00:57:46 ◼   ► Well, I and I think I understand why, because they're using subpar models from

00:57:51 ◼   ► two years ago.

00:57:52 ◼   ► But why does Mike have a really good experience?

00:57:56 ◼   ► And why don't I have the same great experience?

00:58:00 ◼   ► Like my I was saying, my experiences aren't perfect, but they're possible for for

00:58:05 ◼   ► what I want.

00:58:06 ◼   ► Like, you know, like I I had a thing a couple of days ago

00:58:10 ◼   ► where I was trying to ask it to find a message to me and

00:58:14 ◼   ► Jason to find like an the amount of episodes in a series of the

00:58:18 ◼   ► show.

00:58:19 ◼   ► And it took a couple of questions, like of refining it, but it found

00:58:24 ◼   ► it.

00:58:24 ◼   ► And it ended up being like it showed me the message, and it's like,

00:58:27 ◼   ► I can see why you didn't necessarily pull this the first time, because our

00:58:32 ◼   ► messages, you know, messages between people don't necessarily include all of the context, right?

00:58:38 ◼   ► Because some of it, some of the context is just shared through other means.

00:58:42 ◼   ► But I was able to get what I needed from it.

00:58:46 ◼   ► Um and it just feels like you are not able to get what you

00:58:54 ◼   ► want from it.

00:58:55 ◼   ► And and I just don't know how that is resolved.

00:59:00 ◼   ► Yeah, but but it's also there's that, and there's also the fact that I

00:59:07 ◼   ► tend to use so let's let's just say that this is um you know

00:59:11 ◼   ► that I can use Siri AI as an assistant on device, but also as

00:59:15 ◼   ► a chat bot, right?

00:59:16 ◼   ► Because they want you to use it as a chat bot.

00:59:18 ◼   ► When I want to use it as a chat bot, I don't in I

00:59:23 ◼   ► don't automatically reach out for it.

00:59:26 ◼   ► So we had to do some some tests for one of our dogs a

00:59:29 ◼   ► few weeks ago, and everything was fine, but for a few days I was

00:59:33 ◼   ► really stressed about it because it was a bunch of tests.

00:59:36 ◼   ► And when I got the results, I didn't even think about going to Siri

00:59:42 ◼   ► AI in the chatbot.

00:59:43 ◼   ► I opened ChatGPT Pro, uh I opened ChatGPT, switched to 5.6 Pro, uploaded the

00:59:49 ◼   ► images of the scan and the and the response from the doctor and said,

00:59:53 ◼   ► please analyze this for me.

00:59:55 ◼   ► And like because I know that that's a kind of model that is gonna

00:59:59 ◼   ► take a look at the images, it's gonna think about them, it's gonna find

01:00:02 ◼   ► some medical sources on the web, it's gonna cross-reference results.

01:00:07 ◼   ► I don't trust having that kind of conversation about medical data for my dogs

01:00:13 ◼   ► or for me for that matter, with Siri AI, because I know that it's

01:00:17 ◼   ► a non-thinking model, right?

01:00:19 ◼   ► That is gonna give me generic answers.

01:00:22 ◼   ► And that that goes back to the part of my brain being poisoned, is

01:00:27 ◼   ► maybe a strong word, but like getting used to these kinds of capabilities, and

01:00:32 ◼   ► and we're not talking here, right?

01:00:34 ◼   ► About custom agency setups or workflows, because I know that Siri AI cannot do

01:00:38 ◼   ► that.

01:00:39 ◼   ► We're just talking about a chatbot.

01:00:41 ◼   ► I try look, I try, uh I didn't do the dog question, but when

01:00:46 ◼   ► when we went on vacation, I was doing some trip planning beforehand, and I

01:00:51 ◼   ► was comparing answers across Siri AI, Chat GPT, and Claude.

01:00:57 ◼   ► And the the answers from Siri AI were so shallow compared to the actual

01:01:04 ◼   ► options that ChatGPT and Claude gave me.

01:01:07 ◼   ► And so, and that's a planning a trip, something that everybody does.

01:01:11 ◼   ► And I mean, maybe you maybe people will be perfectly happy with the shallow

01:01:15 ◼   ► options provided by Siri AI.

01:01:18 ◼   ► So, look, I don't know, I really don't know what to make of this.

01:01:21 ◼   ► Is it's it's if they can make the assistant part work reliably, that's gonna

01:01:27 ◼   ► be my angle.

01:01:28 ◼   ► Because as a chat, it's not an agent, it's not a great chat bot.

01:01:33 ◼   ► I really hope they can figure out to the assistant part on device.

01:01:38 ◼   ► Yeah, and the personal context part, and if so, that's gonna be my angle.

01:01:43 ◼   ► I'm gonna give you another example because I I think like the the assistant

01:01:47 ◼   ► thing is is good.

01:01:48 ◼   ► And it's like it's an assistant for everyone, right?

01:01:51 ◼   ► Like I am a technical person, I'm not interested in doing all the things

01:01:55 ◼   ► that you do to you know with with like CLIs and and MCP.

01:01:59 ◼   ► I just I I'm I dipped my toe in it very lightly, but you

01:02:03 ◼   ► have gone much heavier than me, right?

01:02:06 ◼   ► So I needed an answer to something the other day, and you I know

01:02:09 ◼   ► how you would have gotten this answer because you just kind of explained it

01:02:13 ◼   ► in the example that you've given.

01:02:15 ◼   ► But there's there is the potential that I may be able to get faster

01:02:19 ◼   ► internet at home, um, which is fantastic, but it looks like there's better fiber

01:02:25 ◼   ► being laid in my local area.

01:02:27 ◼   ► But I know I'm in a contract um right now, and so I just

01:02:32 ◼   ► asked when did I renew my broadband contract?

01:02:37 ◼   ► And because I didn't know, and it it gave me the answer.

01:02:41 ◼   ► Your contract was renewed on November 28th, 2025.

01:02:45 ◼   ► It was a 24 month contract, so it will be like it'll end on

01:02:50 ◼   ► November 27th, 2027.

01:02:52 ◼   ► And then I said, is there a cancellation clause?

01:02:54 ◼   ► And it said, yes, there is a 30 day notice period required to make

01:02:57 ◼   ► service changes or cancellations, but there's probably an early disconnection fee, which is very

01:03:01 ◼   ► normal with these types of things.

01:03:03 ◼   ► Um, and then it says you'll need to look up what that is, like

01:03:05 ◼   ► go, you know, to talk to them basically.

01:03:08 ◼   ► And I that I got the answer to that question way faster than if

01:03:13 ◼   ► I would have gone to go through my email to try and find it

01:03:16 ◼   ► because I didn't have even have an idea of when it was that I

01:03:20 ◼   ► renewed, I didn't remember, so I would have had to search the name of

01:03:24 ◼   ► my thing and then look through every email, right?

01:03:26 ◼   ► Like, no, that one's a bill, that one's a bill, that's marketing, marketing bill.

01:03:30 ◼   ► But and but this found it in seconds, so that kind of thing is

01:03:34 ◼   ► very useful to me as a person who's not going to attach their email

01:03:40 ◼   ► to an MCP server, right?

01:03:42 ◼   ► Like, that's the difference.

01:03:44 ◼   ► You keep using the word poisoned.

01:03:46 ◼   ► I think it is a perfect word, like in that it's not your brain,

01:03:50 ◼   ► your workflows have been have been infiltrated by AI purposefully, and you're doing incredible

01:03:56 ◼   ► things with it, but that just changes your thinking, and so it it like

01:04:02 ◼   ► the idea that you would replace Siri AI.

01:04:05 ◼   ► No, you're not going to.

01:04:06 ◼   ► You're not going to replace your these things for Siri AI, but it's it

01:04:11 ◼   ► can still give good results.

01:04:12 ◼   ► I can't answer the problem that you are having though, where it's just not

01:04:16 ◼   ► giving you answers.

01:04:17 ◼   ► Like, maybe that's a beta bug, maybe there is something just like horrifically broken

01:04:23 ◼   ► with your index.

01:04:25 ◼   ► I don't know what happens with that, right?

01:04:27 ◼   ► But I think I'm having a better experience than you are, but my experience

01:04:31 ◼   ► is nowhere near as good as the experiences you have with the tools that

01:04:35 ◼   ► you're using because they're just more powerful.

01:04:38 ◼   ► But I I just don't think that everybody needs that power, and it's it

01:04:44 ◼   ► is more, you know, you use the word assistant, it's just a more it

01:04:48 ◼   ► is a more powerful assistant, it is not like a work partner like what

01:04:55 ◼   ► you have, right?

01:04:56 ◼   ► Where this thing is like so powerful that you're working alongside it rather than

01:04:59 ◼   ► just like you know, it's more like a co-worker than an assistant, say, right?

01:04:59 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:05:06 ◼   ► But like an assistant is maybe going to be doing some simpler jobs for

01:05:09 ◼   ► you, but your co-worker is working at the same level that you are.

01:05:12 ◼   ► I think like they're kind of like the differences between the systems that we

01:05:15 ◼   ► have.

01:05:15 ◼   ► So maybe we'll see.

01:05:17 ◼   ► I I don't know what it means for your review though, man.

01:05:19 ◼   ► And uh, you know, I don't know.

01:05:23 ◼   ► I I don't know either, but it it'll I'm confident that it'll come to

01:05:31 ◼   ► me.

01:05:32 ◼   ► And even if it doesn't, I'll get the review done because I'm uh because

01:05:35 ◼   ► I'm a professional.

01:05:36 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:05:37 ◼   ► I would I know myself, I would just prefer to do something inspired rather

01:05:42 ◼   ► than obligated to, you know.

01:05:46 ◼   ► Yeah, of course.

01:05:47 ◼   ► I hope it comes.

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01:07:35 ◼   ► Pro Fold, along with their watches and some accessories.

01:07:38 ◼   ► You know, this they've had their September event, right?

01:07:41 ◼   ► Um that like what Apple has, they do it a little bit earlier.

01:07:44 ◼   ► As is the way for basically all the companies that aren't Apple, they just

01:07:48 ◼   ► do their announcements in a weird way, right?

01:07:51 ◼   ► Like Samsung do it where the embargo lifts at the moment that the event

01:07:54 ◼   ► begins so nobody watches the event.

01:07:57 ◼   ► This year, Google had the embargo lifting from media in the morning and the

01:08:03 ◼   ► event was in the afternoon.

01:08:05 ◼   ► Hours early.

01:08:06 ◼   ► Really weird.

01:08:07 ◼   ► Very strange.

01:08:08 ◼   ► Like this is like worse still, I guess.

01:08:13 ◼   ► Um and they also they also had like a celebrity host it again there,

01:08:17 ◼   ► Trevor Noah do it this time.

01:08:18 ◼   ► I mean I don't know why they feel the need to continue having like

01:08:23 ◼   ► daily show hosts, right?

01:08:25 ◼   ► Like like talk show hosts to their events.

01:08:27 ◼   ► It was better than Fallon, though.

01:08:29 ◼   ► Was it?

01:08:29 ◼   ► Did you watch it?

01:08:30 ◼   ► Uh I watched a supercut and it was better than the supercut I saw

01:08:34 ◼   ► a Fallon.

01:08:35 ◼   ► So yeah, but still I just don't understand.

01:08:38 ◼   ► Like I just don't know why they would do this, but this is what

01:08:41 ◼   ► they keep doing.

01:08:42 ◼   ► Uh the highlights uh I guess the highlight well actually the highlight is not

01:08:46 ◼   ► highlight which is a system that they have that I'll talk about in a

01:08:49 ◼   ► minute.

01:08:49 ◼   ► Um there isn't really a lot going on with the phones this year.

01:08:54 ◼   ► Um they're essentially the same there is some there's some camera hardware improvements the

01:09:02 ◼   ► the processors are a little bit more uh you know so MKBHD called it

01:09:06 ◼   ► a frustratingly incremental improvement.

01:09:10 ◼   ► Um and in his video is kind of saying that he just continues to

01:09:13 ◼   ► be let down where like he's he continues hoping that Google is going to

01:09:17 ◼   ► make a big leap with their hardware but they just aren't doing it.

01:09:22 ◼   ► Then they just keep making very small hardware improvements.

01:09:26 ◼   ► And there are some software improvements which at least for the time being are

01:09:30 ◼   ► exclusive to this pixel maybe you know rolling out to more pixels etc etc

01:09:35 ◼   ► maybe other Android phones because it is Android at the end of the day

01:09:38 ◼   ► of course um the phones are more expensive um they're all about a hundred

01:09:45 ◼   ► dollars more than the the phones that they're replacing in the pixel lineup um

01:09:51 ◼   ► the way that they're doing this this time is weird.

01:09:54 ◼   ► It're dropping the 128 gigabyte starting model which was 799 dollars for the 128

01:09:59 ◼   ► last year which is weird uh it's now eight ninety nine for the two

01:10:03 ◼   ► fifty six uh this is very similar to what Samsung did.

01:10:07 ◼   ► Maybe this is an indication of what Apple could do.

01:10:11 ◼   ► Maybe, right?

01:10:12 ◼   ► Like $100 seems to be the thing.

01:10:15 ◼   ► I don't know if Apple's going to increase the storage though, because they did

01:10:18 ◼   ► that already.

01:10:23 ◼   ► Do you think it's weird that they haven't increased the price of the iPhone?

01:10:26 ◼   ► Like I feel like it's too late now.

01:10:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:10:28 ◼   ► We're way too close now.

01:10:30 ◼   ► And and I I'm surprised that they didn't just do it to take the

01:10:34 ◼   ► edge off when they eventually need to do it.

01:10:36 ◼   ► Does it surprise you, Steven?

01:10:39 ◼   ► Yeah, uh a little bit.

01:10:41 ◼   ► Um I thought that they would do it now.

01:10:46 ◼   ► But then uh sort of my secondary thought that comes on the heels of

01:10:49 ◼   ► that is there's not gonna be a regular iPhone 18 at this event, it

01:10:53 ◼   ► seems like the the eighteen will be in the spring, and so the 17's

01:10:58 ◼   ► gonna stick around longer, and maybe that gives them some wiggle room in this.

01:11:03 ◼   ► I mean, these phones tend to get cheaper other than the RAM, but like

01:11:07 ◼   ► the rest of the process gets cheaper over time.

01:11:09 ◼   ► So maybe the 17 can hold out, but I do think the pros will

01:11:14 ◼   ► be just more expensive.

01:11:15 ◼   ► They could have just increased the pro price, though.

01:11:17 ◼   ► Like they you know, they could they could have just done that.

01:11:19 ◼   ► It's like it's not like they've been consistent with their price increases on everything

01:11:23 ◼   ► else, right?

01:11:23 ◼   ► That's that's true.

01:11:25 ◼   ► Um, here's a weird one.

01:11:27 ◼   ► The Pixel 11 Pro starts at 1099, so it's a hundred dollars now more

01:11:34 ◼   ► for twelve gigabytes of RAM and two hundred and fifty-six gigabytes of storage.

01:11:38 ◼   ► Last year it was nine ninety-nine for sixteen gigabytes of RAM.

01:11:43 ◼   ► So it's more money and less RAM, but more storage.

01:11:47 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:11:48 ◼   ► That's not great.

01:11:49 ◼   ► Uh the eleven profold, not a lot has changed here.

01:11:52 ◼   ► It's a little thinner and lighter.

01:11:54 ◼   ► Um, it's not particularly exciting this year compared to the competition, it feels like.

01:11:58 ◼   ► Uh it's now starts at $1,899.

01:12:03 ◼   ► No one's gonna buy that phone.

01:12:04 ◼   ► No.

01:11:59 ◼   ► Which is rough, but no one's buying that phone.

01:12:07 ◼   ► Um, because the the the Samsung phones are looking so good this year, where

01:12:10 ◼   ► you know, like maybe last year or the year before, the the Pixel Pro

01:12:14 ◼   ► was was seemed like the one to buy, but you know, now the the

01:12:18 ◼   ► competition is kind of heated up.

01:12:20 ◼   ► The hardware addition this year is something called highlight, which is the flash, basically

01:12:28 ◼   ► the flash on the camera for the pixel phones can now be illuminated in

01:12:33 ◼   ► different colors.

01:12:35 ◼   ► So if you're talking to Gemini, it will glow in like Gemini colors for

01:12:40 ◼   ► you.

01:12:41 ◼   ► And also it will glow if you get a phone call, and you can

01:12:46 ◼   ► kind of change the color or glow for different people, and that's it.

01:12:53 ◼   ► Doesn't do anything else.

01:12:54 ◼   ► It could do so much.

01:12:55 ◼   ► No other apps, no other contacts.

01:12:58 ◼   ► This is honestly like absolutely ridiculous.

01:13:03 ◼   ► Like, this is so stupid to do this.

01:13:07 ◼   ► Why would you do this?

01:13:09 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:13:09 ◼   ► I don't get it.

01:13:10 ◼   ► I had an Android phone back in the day, my droid had an LED,

01:13:14 ◼   ► and you could set like different colors to mean different notifications.

01:13:18 ◼   ► And it was awesome.

01:13:20 ◼   ► I think people would find that fun.

01:13:21 ◼   ► And if you don't care about it, you don't care about it.

01:13:23 ◼   ► But if you do, and the Pixel phone is really for enthusiasts, it just

01:13:29 ◼   ► seems like such a waste.

01:13:30 ◼   ► I I really hope they revisit this.

01:13:32 ◼   ► Well, they know it though, right?

01:13:34 ◼   ► So from Joanna Stern, she says, Google told me it's quote, continuing to invest

01:13:39 ◼   ► in this technology and that message notifications are coming.

01:13:43 ◼   ► What are you talking about?

01:13:44 ◼   ► This technology?

01:13:45 ◼   ► What you're lighting an LED, a different color?

01:13:48 ◼   ► Wow, really breaking the mold here.

01:13:51 ◼   ► Like I don't understand this at all.

01:13:54 ◼   ► How can you not get this feature ready for the launch of this product?

01:13:58 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't know.

01:13:59 ◼   ► It doesn't make any sense to me.

01:14:01 ◼   ► Seriously, how hard is it, right?

01:14:03 ◼   ► How hard is it?

01:14:04 ◼   ► Like if you get a message that it lights up.

01:14:08 ◼   ► Just phone calls?

01:14:09 ◼   ► What are we doing?

01:14:10 ◼   ► Like this you created this feature for Gemini branding.

01:14:14 ◼   ► Like that's what this is for.

01:14:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:14:15 ◼   ► And that's just ridiculous.

01:14:17 ◼   ► Right?

01:14:18 ◼   ► Like, come on.

01:14:20 ◼   ► I I don't know.

01:14:21 ◼   ► I I I find it very strange.

01:14:24 ◼   ► Uh software.

01:14:26 ◼   ► They've added something called camera looks.

01:14:28 ◼   ► This is essentially Google's uh response to photographic styles, and it's using some of

01:14:32 ◼   ► the same language in the communication that it's not a filter, it's changes to

01:14:36 ◼   ► the processing of the images.

01:14:38 ◼   ► But unlike Apple, uh, you actually get access to other elements like sharpness and

01:14:43 ◼   ► grain, and the overall editing of the uh camera look is more like a

01:14:48 ◼   ► regular editing, which would make Federico happy if Apple added this because it's not

01:14:53 ◼   ► that little touchpad thing.

01:14:54 ◼   ► It's actually like just go in and choose the brightness, go in and choose

01:14:58 ◼   ► the grain.

01:14:58 ◼   ► Imagine that.

01:14:59 ◼   ► So I think that you know, I would like to see Apple continue to

01:15:03 ◼   ► push photographic styles because I really like the feature, and maybe it would be

01:15:06 ◼   ► good if they took uh a call from how Google is doing it here

01:15:08 ◼   ► to make it a little bit more intuitive as to how you would make

01:15:11 ◼   ► the changes.

01:15:11 ◼   ► They also have a bunch of presets, so you could just use the presets,

01:15:14 ◼   ► but if you want to get really nerdy with it, give me everything.

01:15:18 ◼   ► Uh the camera app has a creator suite features.

01:15:21 ◼   ► These are great.

01:15:21 ◼   ► So a teleprompter inside of it.

01:15:24 ◼   ► Uh, I use this in the edits app.

01:15:26 ◼   ► It's really helpful to have a teleprompter just in the camera UI for people

01:15:29 ◼   ► that need to record things to camera.

01:15:32 ◼   ► Social framing guides, so you can put a guide to show like where you

01:15:36 ◼   ► know what are the kind of the safe areas for content.

01:15:39 ◼   ► Um automatic folder structures for video, speech enhancement, and magic capture that automatically generate

01:15:46 ◼   ► stills and short clips from longer video recordings.

01:15:49 ◼   ► All of this sounds fantastic.

01:15:51 ◼   ► Like there are there are social media content creators that will buy a Pixel

01:15:55 ◼   ► phone for these features, but then they'll probably roll out to other phones anyway.

01:15:58 ◼   ► But I think this is a really great suite of features in the camera

01:16:01 ◼   ► app for people that make any kind of short form video.

01:16:05 ◼   ► All of this got me thinking, right?

01:16:08 ◼   ► So this is Google's phone this year, and it seems underwhelming, right?

01:16:13 ◼   ► I'm underwhelmed, at least hearing about this.

01:16:15 ◼   ► Like the the phone itself just doesn't really seem like it's added anything of

01:16:19 ◼   ► value in the thing, its new feature this year, which you know, we know

01:16:23 ◼   ► what Google's like.

01:16:24 ◼   ► Who knows if they'll keep it going year to year?

01:16:26 ◼   ► Like I think about that radar system that they had in one of them.

01:16:31 ◼   ► You know, but they just don't think they've implemented it very well.

01:16:33 ◼   ► And it made me think like, what would it be like if Apple had

01:16:37 ◼   ► competition for phones that ran iOS?

01:16:41 ◼   ► Because the reason that this stands out so much of Google is that the

01:16:47 ◼   ► competitors in Android are making much better products, right?

01:16:50 ◼   ► In like in general every year.

01:16:52 ◼   ► Samsung, and now Oppo, nothing, OnePlus, all of these brands make better phones for

01:16:58 ◼   ► Android than the Android maker.

01:17:02 ◼   ► Which is like an interesting thing because surely Google should make the best phone

01:17:07 ◼   ► for Android, but they don't anymore.

01:17:09 ◼   ► I think there was a time that they did, but they're not now.

01:17:12 ◼   ► And I don't know whether it's Google can't, or if you had other companies

01:17:23 ◼   ► making phones for iOS, that it would show the same thing for Apple.

01:17:26 ◼   ► Do you understand what I mean?

01:17:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:17:28 ◼   ► Like if there were other companies could make phones that ran iOS, would we

01:17:33 ◼   ► also say, man, they're just not doing anything.

01:17:36 ◼   ► Yeah, I I don't know.

01:17:38 ◼   ► I I th I do think Google has a little bit of the Microsoft

01:17:43 ◼   ► problem where they do make phones, but they also have to keep OEMs happy,

01:17:48 ◼   ► mostly Samsung in Google's pay and Google's situation, where you know Microsoft with the

01:17:54 ◼   ► surface line, like the surface and the pixel, I think, really are like spiritual

01:17:57 ◼   ► cousins.

01:17:58 ◼   ► So for like some good ideas, some interesting execution, not popular.

01:18:04 ◼   ► And I think that that's uh that's challenging when you don't have the hardware

01:18:09 ◼   ► and software in the same company.

01:18:12 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:18:14 ◼   ► But yeah, this phone doesn't look too great.

01:18:16 ◼   ► Um they had a bunch of other things.

01:18:19 ◼   ► They had uh they have their watch, it's round, uh, continues to be round.

01:18:23 ◼   ► I think the Pixel Watch looks great.

01:18:24 ◼   ► Here's here's a line I found interesting from The Verge.

01:18:27 ◼   ► Google claims it includes the most accurate GPS route tracking for exercise outperforming the

01:18:32 ◼   ► Apple Watch Ultra 3 and the Garmin Phoenix 8 Pro.

01:18:37 ◼   ► Hmm.

01:18:38 ◼   ► Really?

01:18:39 ◼   ► That's what they say.

01:18:40 ◼   ► That's what they say, but I don't expect.

01:18:43 ◼   ► I just don't expect it to sell products.

01:18:46 ◼   ► I it's weird, right?

01:18:47 ◼   ► Like, I don't I don't know.

01:18:49 ◼   ► Like I don't really understand why why they continue to do this.

01:18:54 ◼   ► Like I just it feels like that they peaked.

01:18:57 ◼   ► Like they had a time when like the the pixel was so good, and

01:18:59 ◼   ► it just feels like it's not that time anymore.

01:19:05 ◼   ► But like they they feel like they have to do this, so they keep

01:19:08 ◼   ► doing this.

01:19:09 ◼   ► And you even see it like in in a lot of Google communication and

01:19:13 ◼   ► like presentations, they use Samsung phones.

01:19:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:19:18 ◼   ► I mean they basically just use it to get software that they want and

01:19:23 ◼   ► into the world.

01:19:24 ◼   ► Right.

01:19:24 ◼   ► And like you said, a lot of the stuff does roll out to other

01:19:28 ◼   ► phones over time, which which hurts the the reasons you would maybe you would

01:19:34 ◼   ► maybe get one of these.

01:19:35 ◼   ► Um yeah, I think it's a shame.

01:19:37 ◼   ► I I think there's some there are some really good ideas in some of

01:19:40 ◼   ► these phones.

01:19:41 ◼   ► Um, and I think competition is always good, but they just kinda I don't

01:19:48 ◼   ► know, they just kind of do it, right?

01:19:49 ◼   ► It's kind of like ah here here's what we did, and you know, that's

01:19:53 ◼   ► about as far as it goes.

01:19:55 ◼   ► Or as a counter to my question from earlier, maybe the Google phone isn't

01:20:01 ◼   ► good because they have competition, so they're kind of just like ah right.

01:20:08 ◼   ► I mean, maybe like if they were the only game in town, would they

01:20:12 ◼   ► maybe work harder?

01:20:13 ◼   ► Like I don't know.

01:20:14 ◼   ► It's possible because it it doesn't feel like that they're at least this year

01:20:18 ◼   ► that they've really pushed it.

01:20:20 ◼   ► I mean, but this does go back to like the tensor chips, right?

01:20:23 ◼   ► People were like, when that when that was announced, it was like, oh, here

01:20:26 ◼   ► we go, they're gonna start competing, and they're just nowhere near.

01:20:29 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

01:20:30 ◼   ► So, yeah, that it's falling, it is falling down over there.

01:20:35 ◼   ► It is.

01:20:38 ◼   ► Which is interesting because that's also what people are saying about Google AI right

01:20:41 ◼   ► now, isn't that right, Frederick?

01:20:43 ◼   ► Oh, absolutely.

01:20:44 ◼   ► We're in the foothills of Pixel Singularity.

01:20:44 ◼   ► We're in the foothills of people changing their jobs.

01:20:50 ◼   ► Yeah, it's not looking good for Gemini.

01:20:53 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:20:53 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:20:54 ◼   ► But just give it two weeks and they'll get 1% better on a benchmark

01:20:58 ◼   ► and then it'll change all over again.

01:21:00 ◼   ► Sure.

01:21:02 ◼   ► Well, I think that does it for this week.

01:21:05 ◼   ► Thanks for hanging out with us today.

01:21:07 ◼   ► Um, there's some links in the show notes.

01:21:09 ◼   ► Uh we don't have a lot of time to talk about this, but Mike

01:21:12 ◼   ► is doing something for the podcast a thon, collecting answers for Family Feud.

01:21:17 ◼   ► Yeah, okay.

01:21:17 ◼   ► There's a link to a Google form.

01:21:19 ◼   ► Uh we play uh Family, we play Feuding Families.

01:21:22 ◼   ► It's legally distinct.

01:21:23 ◼   ► We play that every year as part of the podcast a thon.

01:21:26 ◼   ► Uh if you would like to help me out, um you can fill in

01:21:29 ◼   ► some of the form.

01:21:30 ◼   ► It's just like general, like, you know, I ask you to think what's the

01:21:33 ◼   ► first thing you think of when I say this kind of questions.

01:21:35 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:21:35 ◼   ► Feel free to fill out the form if you would like to.

01:21:37 ◼   ► Uh I'm gonna close it next week.

01:21:39 ◼   ► No, no pressure.

01:21:40 ◼   ► But do it if you care about things.

01:21:43 ◼   ► We've had quite a lot of responses already.

01:21:45 ◼   ► So good, which is good.

01:21:46 ◼   ► Like I definitely have enough to make a good game, but uh having more

01:21:50 ◼   ► always helps.

01:21:51 ◼   ► Yeah, I'll link to it on a 512.

01:21:52 ◼   ► I'm sure it crushed the Google form.

01:21:54 ◼   ► I did actually I did have a a big spike, and I think that

01:21:58 ◼   ► might have been why I was surprised.

01:22:00 ◼   ► Power of blogs with so many people here, yeah.

01:22:02 ◼   ► I guess the blogs.

01:22:04 ◼   ► Well, you can find uh that and everything else we spoke about in the

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