616: Go to the Home Screen
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Hello and welcome to Connected Episode 616.
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It's made possible by our sponsors.
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They are Fitbod, Bolt.new, Scribe, and Sentry.
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I am your annual chairman, Steven Hackett.
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And I'm joined by man of the people, Mike Hurley.
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Hello, that is I, and I would have the pleasure of introducing to you
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the returning keynote chairman, Federico Patici.
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Hello, Federico.
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I'm back together.
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The constant has returned.
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The three of us are a unit again.
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What a unit we are.
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It feels good.
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Let's ruin that feeling by talking about some follow-up.
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The most advice of the case.
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And Connor and many other people.
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I'm giving them credit because they were first.
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You just hit command option shift V and it past without formatting.
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And if you're I didn't say this in the show, I should have.
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Also, but we love your feedback.
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Keep sending it.
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Don't I don't want to sound ungracious.
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But um you can also in Mac OS, you know, there's this featured buried
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in system settings where you can like remap shortcuts.
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For a long time, when I was like a plain text purist when I
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was younger, I replaced Command V with this.
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So every time I pasted, it was without formatting.
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Um, which is cool when you're using envy alt and you're 23, but when
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you're 40 and using Notion, maybe less important.
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Yeah, look, here's the thing, everyone obviously I know this exists.
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Um but you didn't say it.
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But I just feel like sometimes we don't need anyway.
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The thing is, it is unreliable in Google Docs and Sheets.
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And so this is the whole reason I'm doing this.
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I explained that I actually explained this on the show.
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I did already say paste and match style is unreliable in Google Docs and
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And so to me, having the format stripped before I even try to paste,
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it's just more reliable.
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Um, and so that's why I do it.
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So there we go.
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So thank you.
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I know, and it's doesn't solve my problem.
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I mean, so much about Google Docs and Sheets is so janky.
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And it I wish it was better because the products are really good if
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you only live within the products.
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If you do anything else on your computer, it starts to hurt a little
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Okay, that came up because we were talking about Pay Spot, and I realized
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I mean Federico wasn't there, and I realized I don't know what Federico uses
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for a clipboard manager if he uses one at all.
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So Federico, what you doing, boy?
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I use paste.
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Ooh, that's a good one.
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Clipper manager for macOS, iOS, and iPad OS.
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Really lovely UI.
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So you hit a keyboard shortcut, and this like um tray pops up at
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the bottom of the screen on Mac.
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You could call it a shelf, maybe?
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A shelf, yes.
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It is a shelf.
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The purists, they know.
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You can uh obviously it defaults to to showing you uh whatever you copied.
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I really love the visual presentation of this.
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Very pretty.
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It's very pretty and it shows you all the clipboard items.
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Um, it does a few things, it shows you uh the the items as
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a thumbnail previews, but in addition to previewing the contents of the item, so
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if it's an image, you see the image.
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If it's text, you see the text.
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It also tells you the type and it shows you the icon of the
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app where you copied that item from.
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So I just copied some text from Safari and it says text three minutes
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ago with the Safari icon.
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Um what I also love is that it syncs with iCloud to the iPhone
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On the iPhone and iPad, you have a custom keyboard to browse uh your
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clipboard items.
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This is really nice.
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Uh they also have shortcut actions.
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So I assigned, I have a I have a uh I have a shortcut
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menu tied to the action button with a bunch of shortcuts that I use
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on a regular basis.
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And one of those shortcuts is a paste action that is just called save
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So if I'm copying a bunch of things on my iPhone in a row,
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like uh a link and an email address, I can just invoke the action
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button and save both of them quickly to paste.
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Later, when I need to paste those two things, I can switch to my
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email client, open the custom keyboard, and then tap on the two thumbnails on
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the iPhone to paste them together.
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Um I also love that it has an MC, a local MCP thing on
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the Mac, so you can ask uh Codecs or Cloud or whatever to look
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at things that you recently copied.
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Um, I also use a feature called pinboards of paste that basically lets you
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create custom shelves.
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So they're they're like folders, think of them as folders for reusable snippets.
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And I keep um one that is called useful links.
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These are like uh links that I open on a regular basis, like our
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memberful admin dashboard or the Stripe admin dashboard.
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Uh things that I don't want to bookmark in Safari because I it's not
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that I'm using them every single day, but they're frequent enough to warrant being
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saved somewhere.
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But the feature that I the the two pin boards that I really use
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are uh Chad GPT prompts and Claude prompts.
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These are like th prompts that I use on a regular basis when I'm
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working in codecs for Claude, and I just keep them saved there so that
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when I'm working on something, I can just reuse that boilerplate text with instructions
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over and over from paste.
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I've downloaded this, I want to look at it.
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I I I really like that it has an iOS app.
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I think that is the one down so downside of Pacebot for me right
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Um it's not something that I that I'm missing, but it's something I feel
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like I could use.
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You know what I mean?
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Like it it would it would take it to another level.
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Um so I'm gonna try this one out.
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I want to see if it does the things that I like that that
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I've been using PaceBot for, and if it does, then I might give this
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one a while too.
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Mike, have you bought any storage devices?
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No, but I have a very dangerous Amazon cart right now.
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So I put a bunch of things in my car and I just haven't
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done it yet.
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But I'm I know what I'm gonna get, but I I'm I'm very very
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careful when I'm buying things on Amazon this week.
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Okay, I have to just press the buy it now button because otherwise I
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may accidentally charge like two grand.
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Yeah, which is what my cart value is right now, because I don't know
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if you know, but uh hard drives are really expensive.
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They are funny, Federica's listening to to um uh NPC and John's John referenced
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Like, oh you know, hard drives are really expensive, and I'm like, yes, John,
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I know because I'm trying to buy like five six terabyte drives or something
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So yeah, I'm gonna do it.
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Um I have a car I have uh in this I'm not a hundred
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I'm gonna take another look around and and before I do buy I want
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to have another look around of the the hard drives that are available um
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but I have uh five six terabyte WD Red Plus and the OWC Thunderbolt
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Thunder Bay 4 I have the version that includes a copy of Soft RAD
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um okay because I know I want to use that and you can get
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it a little bit cheaper if you buy it um bundled yeah so yeah
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but this this is 1941 which is a lot of money.
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My wife whom I love does this she'll just leave stuff in the Amazon
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I don't usually do this I just did this because I wanted to price
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it all out you know yeah um and now it's just all sitting there.
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So sometimes if I don't notice it like if it's something small uh you
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know then it shows up she's like oh I didn't mean to order this
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it's like well why is it in the cart but then if I move
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it to save for later it's like it's gone from the world in our
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Yeah yeah um we need a better system in our household for this save
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for later is not a great it's not great the way that Amazon does
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it's like I just never really know where it goes.
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So I will do this.
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I mean probably it's gonna happen within the next couple of weeks because once
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the first like season of design in California is all completed I'm gonna want
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to move it because it's a lot of space um but uh I haven't
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The new iPhone is just, I mean, gosh, really just like a month away.
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And we've been talking a lot about this, obviously.
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A couple of just quick follow-up items to previous conversations.
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I've made my bed that I think it's called the iPhone Ultra.
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And according to Mark German, quote, everyone at Apple calls it the iPhone Ultra.
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Whether they know that's the name or not, who knows?
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But that's, you know, that's what people are calling it.
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Yeah, I don't.
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I mean, I know you think Ultra's like nice or whatever.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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It's not because of that.
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It's just that like most people at Apple do not know product names.
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Yeah, which is why this happens.
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Like people fill it in.
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But uh, we will see.
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I mean, it's it's absolutely wild how close we are.
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But sadly, boys, it may be US market first.
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And then maybe China two or three months later.
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What are you talking about?
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I don't buy this at all because I don't like it, so I don't
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It was on Mac rumors right as we started recording.
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Um a Australian outlet says they have been told by local carriers and one
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major retailer that the first votable iPhone will be a no-show when the iPhone
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18 Pros model launched there in September.
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Instead, they believe Apple will release the book style device in the US market
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Oh, come on.
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With a staggered launch to other key markets.
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This is how Federico buys his phone in Germany again.
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No, this is how I buy my Samsung uh Z Fold 8.
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Or Big Apple Big Apple buddy.
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Big uh or Mr.
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John Boris flying to Italy.
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Is Big Big Apple Buddy still around?
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Look at this.
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I'm sorry, Steven.
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It's gonna be very unfortunate for you because you're gonna need to buy a
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phone from me.
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I'd check give a get a credit check on that man.
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Yeah, you're gonna have to buy buy a phone from me.
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Because I will be coming to America not too long after the phone releases.
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That's true.
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Or I'll just I may just have you overnight Fed exit to me too.
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Nope, not I just have to see how that goes.
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So expensive.
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Uh that would really stink.
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That would be that would be terrible.
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I don't know.
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This seems I mean look, that might be the case.
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I can understand the thinking.
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This is a very sketchy rumor.
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I I I would want this Who's saying this?
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An Australian publication?
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Like that's even a place.
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Channel news.
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Like that's a real place.
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They just say like that's a real place.
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I'm sorry, like I just don't know if I if I I just don't
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think I can trust like an Australian supplier to know the worldwide.
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Like I just don't buy it.
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Wow, the huge UK energy there.
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Channel news.
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Channel news.
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It's uh Australia's number one source for technology news.
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I think fine.
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I think uh I think if this is real, German will weigh in.
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I think either way, German will weigh in.
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The the fact that the the fact the fact that nobody else has said
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this, right?
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And and now this like uh I just don't it just doesn't feel like
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a thing to me.
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I mean, maybe it's right, maybe it's right.
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And and channel news is correct, but I just this just feels like a
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quick way to grab a headline.
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Don't you miss the days when Jim Dar Limpore would just say nope to
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I mean, I would like a yep or a nope to this.
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Maybe I should somebody should ask Mark Gurman what he thinks.
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Now it's just uh it's just uh saying on that that people that that
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Apple should fire Craig Federigi.
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That's that's what you did.
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So it's great opinion.
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It's a great and very relevant opinion.
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Uh uh anyway, I hope this is not the case.
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And uh because I really want to get an iPhone fold.
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We just did an episode of MPC before this, and Brendan got a Z
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Oh, I can't wait to hear what he thinks.
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He's been basically gushing for 25 minutes about the Z fold 8 and showing
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off how incredible it looks like when what when you're playing games on it
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I would like to make this prediction though, uh, on this show about that
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Uh he will not last the year.
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Well, interesting, because that's his whole thing now that he's switching to Android.
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Uh he mentioned it in the last episode, and my bet is he does
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not make the year.
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Interesting.
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Okay, we'll see.
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We're making cross show bets.
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Yeah, cross show bets.
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Um everyone calls it the ultra.
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But everyone in Australia thinks that it's not coming up.
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Look, I just it's not anything on this outlet.
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It's just like it's these things happen all the time, right?
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Like just is here's one person said this thing to someone, and it's like,
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And it's they could do this, but uh there aren't there the reports of
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it being limited, that is already starting to say is not a thing.
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So I'm just not sure if I if I buy it.
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Sounds like I'm gonna buy it.
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You will be buying it, yeah.
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That's true.
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We've also spoken about the uh the colors of the iPhone 18 Pro and
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Looks like some sort of black or space gray, a blue, a dark cherry,
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and then a to my eye, slightly darker silver than the 17 Pro.
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Um, and uh anyways, I I asked a Gen Z person about these colors
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the other day.
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I'm sorry, I I went back to this article.
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I have one more thing.
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Wait, there's one more thing.
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Apple management is not expected to reveal pricing for the fold at the September
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That's what this article says.
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Australia says that or MacRimer says that.
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Australia says that.
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David David Richards says that.
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Probably a bit better than that.
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They're not gonna talk about the price of the product at the launch event.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know about this article.
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Wait a second.
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Is this a real website?
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Do you think they just like they get bungled by AI?
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Look, I mean.
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Look, um so I'm trying to click on the byline and it takes you
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I'm trying to find a social profile for this website, and they have 600
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followers on X.com.
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Um, with the last post to being in August 2020.
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It's Australia's number one source of technology news.
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I think MacRumors may have gotten duped.
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Which means I got duped for talking about it here.
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Dupe doop should whoop.
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Uh I mean, yeah, there's like another thing.
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Hey, maybe look, maybe uh if it's a real website, please don't take any
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It just it it rings some alarms for me.
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That that's all.
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Like, um gotta be skeptical these days.
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Yeah, unfortunately.
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But yeah, I mean, not r not revealing the pricing info at the September
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I mean, there's just no world in which that's true.
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Absolutely not.
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I mean, I found David Richards on LinkedIn.
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Like, seems to be a person that exists.
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Uh, so they're owned by another company.
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So it's probably a real company and a real website with just really bad
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Yeah, which is fine.
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I just don't I just don't buy that.
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Like, yeah, I don't buy that they won't say the the amount of money
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that it costs.
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If like I could imagine it if like it's like Vision Pro, right?
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Here's this thing.
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It's not coming out now, so we'll talk about it later.
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Like, but that's not the case, right?
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At most it will be a couple of weeks as a as a different.
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I just can't imagine that they won't talk about the pricing.
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That would that's wild.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Anyways, I asked a Gen Z person about the dark cherry color.
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And she was very thing and I'll be done.
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Apple management, I there's the the full s the full sentence, which I've just
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Apple management is not expected to reveal pricing for the fold at the September
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8th event, where the iPhone 18 Pro, 18 Pro Max, and iPhone Ultra will
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also be unveiled.
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What are we doing?
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I don't know.
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Like that just doesn't make any sense.
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What so there's an there's another secret phone called the iPhone Ultra that's not
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the folding phone?
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Come on, everybody.
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Let's read these articles before we link to them.
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Like, what are we doing?
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Anything else about Australia?
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And also it's not even gonna be September 8th, right?
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Like, that's not even what the rumor is that like Mark Gurman is like
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saying it's not gonna it's gonna be like the 9th, because it's the day
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after Labor Day.
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Ah come on, everyone.
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Like, let's let's just do some reading.
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Let's just read.
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They shouldn't have linked to it and I we shouldn't have talked about it.
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No, we've all learned a valuable lesson.
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We've all learned a valuable lesson.
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Don't trust Mac rumors.
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Well, no, but like it's the look, the service that that sites like 9
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to 5 Mac and Mac Rumors provide should be as filters of this information.
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And so we all kind of hope that they re that they have fully
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read and understood what they're linking to.
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And like sometimes, I mean, I I like sometimes they will say, like, oh,
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take this one with a grain of salt, da-da-da-da-da.
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There's no there's no salt here.
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It doesn't seem like that, no.
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I am mostly amused by Mike going from the enthusiast to the destroyer in
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this segment.
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Again, I I wouldn't put this on my website.
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I think I said it when we launched of like, you will get that
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part of me here.
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You know, that's what everybody gets.
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When's the last time you put anything on your website?
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Look, I'm busy, man.
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You're gonna have a post soon.
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I'm back at blogging.
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No, I'm not gonna do that.
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I just I I the time that I would spend writing is currently being
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spent editing.
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And I think it's probably more important that I edit design in California than
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than write about some videos I found on YouTube.
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I certainly think so.
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Can I now talk about dark cherry?
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I would love you to.
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I'm so sorry.
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Black, light blue, silver, dark cherry.
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I asked a Gen Z person.
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She was very excited about Dark Cherry.
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It's a very Who is your daughter?
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We should say No, no.
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Somebody I work with.
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Oh, oh, you work with a 16-year-old.
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No, Gen Z is older than that now.
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Uh, we're just taking a face value that this is not your daughter.
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1997, 22, 20, 12, 12, minus 1997.
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29 year olds are Gen Z.
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So you're working with a 29 year old and you're just hacking.
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This person is part of the team at CrossFord.
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Not related to any of us.
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Unrelated to any of us.
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And we were talking about some color stuff, and I said, hey, what do
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you think about these?
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And she was she was very up on dark cherry.
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So maybe you know, maybe it'll do well.
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Question is do we think they're going to do four?
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And what do we think about these colors?
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See, I don't think they're gonna do a black one.
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Like they didn't last time.
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I feel like it's probably two colors and a silver, but or maybe they
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just people were so mad that they were gonna do a black one.
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Um, but I don't know.
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But I like the blue one.
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I'll probably get the blue one.
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I'm popular opinion here.
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I find the colour conversation the most boring stuff ever.
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And I I mean, uh like I put this thing in a case.
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Uh in fact, I would say I care more about cases than than the
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colour of the case.
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Oh, you say, well, I don't do cases, so I care about the colour.
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You would care about the colour of your case because that's what you're gonna
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I agree that it is ridiculous that we that like there is so much
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conversation spent about colour when most people don't ever see the color of their
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It's important to me because it is what I see, but I understand that
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like for most people, it's funny that we spend so much time focusing on
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it because people just put them in a case that with whatever color that
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they want in the end of it.
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It should all just be silver.
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I mean, it looks fine.
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The light blue is very ugly from the light blue, so I'm sorry.
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I don't like the cherry.
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That's not for me.
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I don't think in these images, but again, you never know how it's actually
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gonna turn out.
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And now is the time.
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Got an M4 MacBook Pro from a few years ago.
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And I feel like it's it's it's approaching uh its time.
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I don't know.
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Maybe it's Golden Gate.
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Maybe it's Golden Gate.
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Uh maybe it's the fact that I've really pushed this computer over the past
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But it gets hot very often.
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The battery is not what it used to be.
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Codex the codex app on the Mac has been problematic for like the way
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that it was writing cash files and accessing those large files over and over.
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Which supposedly OpenAI fixed uh a couple of months ago.
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Uh but the performance hasn't been great.
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Um I don't know.
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It just feels like it's it's more sluggish now than it's ever been.
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And look, and and again, maybe it's Golden Gate, maybe it isn't, although wasn't
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Golden Gate supposed to be like a more stable release?
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Uh Golden Gate's been okay on my MacBook Neo.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I feel like I will soon be I will soon be in the market
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for a new laptop.
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I don't want to buy a new laptop because I really love this computer.
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The only way that I would upgrade this MacBook would be to a fancy
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one with OLED and touch.
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Um, so I I I don't even want to consider anything else in the
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I will just travel with an external battery pack and power adapters and try
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to close uh my apps more frequently than before.
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But yeah, uh, and also for sure, my next laptop I am gonna try
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and save and get the version with the most RAM that I can because
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that's the one thing that I wish I I spent a little extra money
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on, yeah, two and a half years ago when I got this computer.
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Um so do we know when that's coming out?
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Is it gonna be 27?
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Probably not.
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I don't think I think I don't think at this point it's this year.
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So um we're gonna let it ride until 27.
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Yeah, and then we'll get the MacBook Pro.
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I mean I've got an M4 Max MacBook Pro, and I that has not
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been my experience at all.
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Maybe you just have a bunch of like tiny same altmans running around your
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Maybe that you can't find.
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The open weight models are duplicating.
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They are they're hanging on to hanging onto every piece of RAM you have
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and then running running wild in there.
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But yeah, I don't think uh at this point, I don't I don't think
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the OLED is this year.
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Um I mean, I could certainly be wrong.
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I would like to be wrong because I'm very interested in that computer, but
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I just don't I just don't think it's gonna happen.
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They can barely ship what they're selling now.
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I don't remember what Mark Gomez lost if he's still saying like as early
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as this year or whatever, you know.
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I don't know.
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Um but at this point I think it's probably all just moving around too
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much for anybody to try and grab a hand off of like when these
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things are gonna be coming out and when they're not.
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Um but it you know, it's it it depends on do they have other
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stuff that they want to ship or not?
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We'll we'll have to find out.
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Have you looked at like activity monitoring stuff, Federica?
00:29:39
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You could you have a handle on on what the computer says it's doing?
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Yeah, before when we were doing the follow-up segment, the fans were spinning again,
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and it was codecs.
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So I quit codecs, and now it's gotten better.
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Now the my problem is the totally generic stuff.
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Like, for example, two gigabytes on Windows server.
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What is Windows Server?
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I I was having a lot of problem with Windows Server on my MacBook
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One gigabyte kernel task.
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You got a kernel.
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Um you need the kernel.
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Um it's just random things that start spinning up and then quiet down with
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no apparent reason.
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So I currently have 48 gigabytes of memory on kernel task and activate.
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Let me look at my that doesn't seem right.
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Doesn't seem right.
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What's he doing?
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What are you doing?
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Something's happening.
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I've got two gigs to Windows Server.
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Um Chrome helper has a gig.
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47 gigabytes is a lot, bro.
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When's the last time you restarted those things?
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Restarted what things do you have?
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How many windows do you have open, Mike?
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Like not many.
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And there aren't many apps open either.
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I'm not I'm not like doing anything wild in here, but I got 48
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gigabytes of memory being assigned to kernel underscore underscore task.
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So the kernel probably isn't important.
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Should I just quit it?
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Please don't just press the X button.
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You should re force quit force quit Windows Server and kernel task.
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See what happens.
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Open terminal.
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What should I type in Federator?
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Oh, but oh, by the way, by the way.
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This is uh now now that I mentioned terminal.
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Really unrelated, but a really nasty thing that happened to me yesterday.
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So I am setting up a Mac Mini uh from scratch in my little
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data center in my storage unit.
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And I'm doing some of the initial setup myself manually, like I always do.
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I want to do that.
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Hey, how did you get networking down there?
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Well, let me tell you a story.
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Um so I I'm doing the setup, I'm installing one password and and enabling
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SSH, like all the things that I do myself.
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And then I open Google and I Google uh Codex app for Mac.
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And I click on the first result, and I'm trying to find it again,
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but it's gone.
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So uh the first result looks like an open AI domain, and it says
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download the codex app for Mac.
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And I click on it and I land on this page that looks like
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the OpenAI website with a screenshot of codecs for Mac.
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And it says Codex for Mac, you can use the app, you can use
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Uh you can start the installation by copying and pasting this terminal command.
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And without even thinking about it, I copy the command, then I open terminal
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and I hit paste, and I look at it, and it's a giant string
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And I stop before hitting enter, and I'm like, wait, am I getting physed
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And yes, uh, there was a Google search result that masqueraded as the OpenAI
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website and drove people to downloading the codex app for Mac.
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Even the beginning of the terminal command looked right because they were hitting this
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fake open AI website.
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It was probably like open al.com or something like that instead of the letter
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Um, but at the very end of the command, there were like some like
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long string of text that was probably like some encoded, like base 64 encoded
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command that I'm sure was gonna install malware on your computer.
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But that brings me to a semi-related topic.
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Well, because you mentioned the terminal.
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Didn't Apple put in place some kind of safeguards that were supposed to tell
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you if if you copied a terminal command in your clipboard that were dangerous
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Did I make this up?
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No, it it's I don't know.
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Because it didn't work.
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Yeah, I don't know what triggers it if there's if they're looking for certain
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arguments or commands that you're gonna paste in, but they have done some stuff
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around that.
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Yeah, I'm looking, Jason wrote about it.
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There are some very specific scenarios, I think, in which it does ask you
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Um but I don't know what they are off the top of my head.
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Anyway, uh they almost got me, but not this time.
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In 26.4, Apple looks for specific strings on the clipboard and blocks them with
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There you go.
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Maybe it just didn't trigger that.
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Yeah, I would I would hope.
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I don't know that this would be true, but I would hope that they
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could update that list remotely, like they do with X Protect.
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So if something new surfaces, they could update that list and you would be
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safe, you know, before like the next Mac OS release.
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I'm not sure how that works under the hood, but I would hope that's
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how they do it.
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That's scary, Federico.
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That is a little scary.
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That's not good.
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Pay attention to the things you copy.
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Don't yeah, don't paste stuff from the internet to your terminal unless you know
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it know it is doing.
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Speaking of Mac OS and Golden Gate, we are on beta five now on
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the developer side of things.
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Uh a couple of changes on the iOS front, the liquid glass slider, the
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clear end, it seems more clear.
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Is that how is that y'all's impression of it?
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It's like people are saying this, but like I don't I didn't notice it.
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That's kind of yeah, that's kind of how I feel.
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You can see some before and afters in places, and like, okay, when you
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show me that, I guess I see it, but I didn't notice it using
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my iPhone for multiple days, and I have it on the maximum clearness.
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Yeah, I have been all over the place with my setting, and I'm a
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little ashamed to admit I kind of like it the more opaque.
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You shouldn't have to do it.
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Less opaque, more less transparent.
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Do you mean the clearest?
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The least clear.
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Oh my god, I still don't know what it was.
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So on one end, it's the clearest liquid glass.
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And on the other end, it's the least clear.
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You can see less through it.
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Just say the opposite.
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Stop saying least clear.
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The most unclear.
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You are the most unclear.
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It's clear and opaque.
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I'm on the opaque end of things.
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This is what I've got.
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Thank you, Zoe.
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You should be ashamed of that, yes.
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I kinda well part of it is I changed my lock screen photo for
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the first time in years.
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And the new one really struggles with super clear notifications.
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And I like the picture.
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So I don't know.
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Have you tried using your phone in dark mode?
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I do every night.
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I'm like Federico.
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Day mode, day phone, night mode, day phone.
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Same phone, different modes.
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Night mode, day phone.
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In this economy, you can't afford a day phone and a nightphone, so you
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just have two modes on one phone.
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Because it does look a little better in general.
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Like the clarity's a little better because it does a bit of tinting to
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the well, it it changes the color of the glass a little bit.
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But no, I'm all the way to the maximum.
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Something I always find so funny.
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Any social media post that is about this, you always find people saying, No,
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Go back to 26 beta one.
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Which I just uh some of this stuff is just so funny to me.
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Um, but it's people want more clear.
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Uh and they also want less clear, like Steven, I guess.
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More less clear.
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More or less clear.
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More or less clear.
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A couple other things in here.
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A bunch of updated icons, which I think on the whole look good.
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I don't think any of them are regression.
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I particularly like the new preview icon, and it's not on Golden Gate.
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Golden Gate still has the previous one.
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Um I hope they change it on the Mac.
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It preview has been the same since the beginning.
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You know, come back to the Mac.
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Back to the Mac.
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Craig Federig's up there, his hand is shaking.
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But I I think that um they're doing a good job with the icons.
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Um and then I like the Safari one.
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I don't know exactly I can't tell you exactly what's changed about the Safari
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icon, but I like it.
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There's a there's a pin in the middle or something.
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It just feels like the overall the whole thing just feels more vibrant.
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Like the sound more.
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There's a like a pin that holds the two uh uh arms of compass?
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Yeah, not the compass points.
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I don't know.
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Like the little the little white star in the mid.
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The less clear, less clear.
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Less clear, more opaque.
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Least opaque?
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More more north.
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More less north?
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I just wished I could see the Siri icon.
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I I wished I could change it to the dark mode Siri icon.
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I I like it.
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I like the black Siri icon more than the white Siri icon.
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I actually, you know what?
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I think the light mode one is kind of bad.
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Yeah, and so I want the dark mode one, but I can't do anything
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about that because I don't like I don't like dark mode icons.
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I don't like the way that they look.
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And so I'm kind of stuck.
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I just wished Apple would let me choose.
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Just like a good let's just like the good indie app that Siri is.
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Um I would like to be able to change my icon by design.
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I I will say that beta five has been the most buggy that I've
00:39:44
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I have a hilarious bug in messages.
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Oh, well the the the top of the UI cuts off the top of
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your messages.
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You have to scroll down and up again to be able to tap into
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your top row of pin messages.
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But it's the most important row.
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I have this other bug where if I open some apps, the uh the
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ability to swipe to at the bottom to go back to the home screen
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um stops working, and I have to lock my phone and unlock it again.
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Like I actually, no.
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I just opened the Siri app and I cannot back I cannot go back
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to the home screen.
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Swiping at the bottom does nothing.
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Well, because I lock it up.
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Oh, I'm hello.
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This is my worst nightmare.
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I'm stuck in Siri AI forever.
00:40:28
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Well, you don't need anything else, you know.
00:40:29
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No, but really, how do I go back to Siri?
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Go back to the home screen.
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I I don't know what to do.
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Does it do it?
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No, it opened.
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Oh my god, it opened the home app.
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Hey, at least it let me swipe back, okay?
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Maybe close out say that.
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You can go back to the lock screen.
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It'll it'll give you the functionality back.
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I've I've haven't this to you.
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I haven't had that problem, but I do have a problem is sometimes the
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keyboard just doesn't appear.
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It's getting directions to home now, but I am home.
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Go to the home screen.
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It knows you saw the Odyssey.
00:41:09
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You know, it's less, yeah, it's like he's gotta send him home.
00:41:13
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Less clear, more app.
00:41:15
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To go to the home screen, swipe up from the bottom edge of the
00:41:19
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You're telling me.
00:41:20
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I mean, how I want to.
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How did they break that?
00:41:23
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That feels like that should not be something they can touch.
00:41:25
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To be able what, like the ability to swipe?
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Yeah, that is incredible.
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Like I don't even.
00:41:31
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Does it work if you do that like double swipe?
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You know, like sometimes you play a game and you have to swipe and
00:41:36
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then swipe again to go home.
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Because like the first swipe kind of activates the ability to swipe.
00:41:40
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Is it doing that?
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Or it just 100% locks you out?
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Um hard to say.
00:41:47
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I think Federico's gone home is the problem.
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Yeah, no, I I'm giving up.
00:41:52
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I'm giving up.
00:41:53
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And it's just one of the many issues of Siri AI, but yeah.
00:41:57
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They've added more accents uh in the Siri voices.
00:42:00
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I think it's British English, which is good because I've been able to bring
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back the northern accent person that I enjoy very much.
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Um, and what I like, I mean, I I can hear it more in
00:42:11
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the British English than I did in American English, is the kind of I
00:42:16
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think it's expressive, you know, like that it actually just makes the accent thicker,
00:42:21
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which is brilliant.
00:42:22
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Uh the expressivity um of this is a British three, that is my my
00:42:27
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chosen voice.
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And as you change the expressivity, which I didn't know was a word, but
00:42:32
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I like that expressivity.
00:42:33
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Uh it uh it just makes it makes the accent thicker, which is uh
00:42:38
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I have it on the middle, um, middle, and then just a little bit
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Uh just one right.
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American six pace middle express expressativity one from the top.
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I I would tell you if I could open open settings.
00:42:58
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He's in prison.
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He's probably in prison.
00:43:00
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I'm sure you have pace to maximum.
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Americ American voice six.
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Just give pace can go faster now.
00:43:10
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Give give British three a try.
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Just just give it a try.
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British three?
00:43:14
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Yes, a good thing.
00:43:15
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Can you demo the voice?
00:43:17
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Let's find the right voice for you.
00:43:18
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I'll practice some things I like to say while you're going to be able
00:43:20
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Oh, this is this look this sounds nice, but it's it's like a voice
00:43:25
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of someone you'd hear on one of these British TV shows where someone gets
00:43:28
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murdered in a small town.
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I'm gonna make it Irish.
00:43:32
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Extremely specific.
00:43:35
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No, you know what, Mike?
00:43:36
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I'm gonna make it Australian.
00:43:38
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Australian is the Australian Siri voices are great, but I don't know if they've
00:43:41
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added have they added those into the the new system?
00:43:44
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Yeah, but that Siri voice says, you know, that the phone's not not shipping,
00:43:47
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so can't be trusted.
00:43:49
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Oh, only only British has the new settings.
00:43:52
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What are what are we talking?
00:43:53
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What are we talking about?
00:43:56
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What was the topic?
00:43:57
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Oh, yes, beta five.
00:44:00
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Uh there's something I noticed uh shared by a friend of the show Steven
00:43:59
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Robles and got an article on 95 Mac here.
00:44:06
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Um he was playing around with the home app and it said uh it
00:44:12
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gave him the message upgrade your iCloud Plus plan for more Apple intelligence get
00:44:16
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more access to Apple intelligence features increase storage and more now there was no
00:44:22
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option for him to do this uh because there is like a a limit
00:44:25
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on the amount of cameras that you can have on the current top level
00:44:30
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iCloud plus plan to be able to get the new intelligence features so it
00:44:35
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appears that more tiers are on the way uh for iCloud Plus people be
00:44:39
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crying all right what you said more tears on the way crying sorry I
00:44:47
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did not understand but it was a really good joke more tears or less
00:44:50
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tears this was one of those stories that went around people like oh you
00:44:54
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gotta pay for more for series like yeah they said that WWE C was
00:44:58
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no one listening like this is not well actually they said it was on
00:45:02
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that the no the news is that it's not just the ones that exist
00:45:07
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like that was not made clear like they said that uh iClo being an
00:45:11
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iP iCloud plus subscriber would get you access to some of the more intense
00:45:16
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things but they didn't indicate that there will be additional tiers of iCloud plus
00:45:21
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on top of what currently exists that would get you even more than that
00:45:26
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so like that is the news here is that you know the two terabyte
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plan there will be more okay that you know and that will get you
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even more than there currently is.
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More more less cameras.
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Fewer cameras.
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I made the I made the critical mistake.
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Jim, cut that.
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The fewer and less rule.
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No, he doesn't.
00:45:46
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That is not in the Stephen Hackers talking about it.
00:45:47
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Cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it.
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He has no idea what fewer or less means.
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And so the the tiny topic right after this is called review checking.
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You want to bundle them together?
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Yeah, I mean it's it's yeah, yes.
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Uh there were two questions.
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How is TC feeling?
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When does the writing begin?
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Look, um many people are saying that I should start writing.
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Many people.
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So many people around me, they just won't stop saying it.
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Are these people named John?
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Are these people here with us right now?
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Are they in the group chat with us right now?
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Are they taller than me?
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You know, all these questions, all these things, the usual questions.
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No, um no, look, I haven't I haven't started writing.
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It feels late, Federico.
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No, no, every see every year you you, and by you I mean y'all,
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you and me, Stephen and specifically me, yeah.
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You John, Federico, it's getting late.
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Oh my god, man, you should start writing the review.
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How are you feeling?
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Why haven't you started?
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You sound like my mom when I like when I tell my mom worried
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When I tell my mom I'm going to go.
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When when no, when I tell my mom I'm going on a trip, she's
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like, Federico, don't drive too fast.
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I know how you drive, don't drive too fast.
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Sounds like good advice from mom.
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Honestly, it does.
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It's good advice, but she constantly worries like I'm about to die or something.
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Um anyway, all of this.
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My problem, all this to say, my problem.
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So I was actually talking to Silvia about this, and this year, iOS 27
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and iPad OS 27, they're obviously not as exciting for me as specifically iPad
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OS was last year.
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Um, just the nature of the update, the fact that I got to interview
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Craig Federigi before, and then it was all about iPad, right?
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That was very exciting.
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And also I was very excited about the new design.
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It's difficult to get excited about a software update, mostly about um bug fixes,
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performance improvements, and some smaller refinements here and there across the entire OS.
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I was hoping that throughout the summer, my excitement for Siri AI would grow,
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and it hasn't happened yet.
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In fact, I think it's gotten worse for me.
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I do not have a use case for Siri AI beyond just having a
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better Siri than before.
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And then of course it depends, right?
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Because as you just heard, even just asking go back to the home screen
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can trip up the thing.
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I am fully aware of the fact that this lack of excitement is because
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part of my brain has been poisoned by frontier AI models by other companies.
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And it's like I keep thinking of something that you told me, Mike, many,
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many years ago.
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Like when you fly business class for the first time, it ruins you for
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your entire life.
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And this is what happened to me with frontier models.
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I have been poisoned by the excellent performance.
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The business class of AI, basically.
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I have been poisoned by the business class of AI.
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And now that I'm flying coach with Siri AI, I'm I'm just I'm I'm
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trying to use it, but like I'm picking ahead at 1A sitting in front
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of me and be like, ah, yes, that's the good spot.
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And and every time I use Siri AI and I ask a question and
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I get an answer, I'm like, hmm, is this a good answer?
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I think I will probably get something better out of ChatGPT Pro or something,
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Um it's not that exciting for me, and I haven't had every summer.
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I have a moment when I'm like, ah, this is the moment, this is
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This encapsulates the story that I'm gonna write.
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And that has not happened yet.
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And maybe it's due to the fact that Apple is still changing the APIs
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for third-party developers that want to integrate with Siri AI.
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In beta five, yes, in beta five, they're changing things again.
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Um maybe it's look, look, I've been trying, or I've been I've been really
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trying to switch my workflow to be more Apple compliant.
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And I'll talk about this in September.
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I am fully after a year, I'm trying to use Apple notes instead of
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I'm trying to use Apple Music instead of Spotify.
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I'm trying to use iMessage more than Slack.
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I am really trying to make an effort to use apps on my devices
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that I know can be data sources for Siri AI.
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It's just not clicking.
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The personal context is not working.
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Uh on on the next episode of App Stories.
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Um, uh I will do this demo live on the show, but I can
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talk about it now because we recorded yesterday.
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I was literally trying to ask Siri AI, what is something that John told
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me three hours ago on iMessage.
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Siri had no idea.
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My custom plugin for iMessage with co with Chat GPT voice mode found the
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message in five seconds.
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And it gave me a great answer.
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So like I'm really trying to use this thing, but the model is not
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And once you get used to a really good model, and you try this,
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it's passable.
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Look, it it's a passable model, it gives you decent world knowledge, but once
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you try the real thing, and by real thing, I mean let's face it,
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there are two, maybe three frontier AI companies right now, like it or not.
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It's OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceX.
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And once you try one of those, going back to Siri AI, it's like
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using GPT-4 from two years ago.
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I've been thinking about this.
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I've been thinking about you.
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I was I was having this thought the other day because uh I don't
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even remember what it was I was listening to of you, but I was
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thinking about this exact thing and knowing that you would still be in this
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And I think the place that I have settled on here is that and
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I think I've meant we've spoken about this before, but Siri AI is not
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attempting to compete with the products that you're using.
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What it is doing, what what it does is just makes the phone assistant
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Like it's not the rest of it, it's just it.
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I think it does because if I ask you to go back to the
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home screen and you don't, and if I ask you to find a message
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and you don't, then what kind of assistant are you?
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Yeah, I mean, but this is the this is the I think the really
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frustrating thing is that I do often have great experiences of it finding messages
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And why and I want to have those experiences too.
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So why don't I have them?
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That and I think that is.
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What am I doing wrong here?
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That is the frustrating part where it feels like there are there are wildly
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different experiences from person to person, and we can't explain.
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And and and it's frustrating, right?
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Because it's a non-deterministic type of scenario where we can go back to two
00:56:46
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years ago where I really disliked stage manager, maybe somebody else liked it, but
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the the topic of contention in the middle could be objectively measured.
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That's what it was for everyone.
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We can all agree on the way it works.
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We can all agree on the product.
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Yeah, maybe you like it, maybe you don't, but the product is the product.
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Here, the product is constantly shifting for everybody.
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Welcome to non-deterministic LLMs, right?
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But at the very least, other companies have pretty much landed in a place
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where if a model is good, it tends to be good for everybody.
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Whereas I keep seeing this, and it's not just me, right?
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I'm taking a look on social media, I'm I'm taking a look on Reddit.
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Some people saying I absolutely love it, other people saying it's useless.
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And I don't understand why.
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Well, I and I think I understand why, because they're using subpar models from
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two years ago.
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But why does Mike have a really good experience?
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And why don't I have the same great experience?
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Like my I was saying, my experiences aren't perfect, but they're possible for for
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what I want.
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Like, you know, like I I had a thing a couple of days ago
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where I was trying to ask it to find a message to me and
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Jason to find like an the amount of episodes in a series of the
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And it took a couple of questions, like of refining it, but it found
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And it ended up being like it showed me the message, and it's like,
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I can see why you didn't necessarily pull this the first time, because our
00:58:32
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messages, you know, messages between people don't necessarily include all of the context, right?
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Because some of it, some of the context is just shared through other means.
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But I was able to get what I needed from it.
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Um and it just feels like you are not able to get what you
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want from it.
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And and I just don't know how that is resolved.
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Yeah, but but it's also there's that, and there's also the fact that I
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tend to use so let's let's just say that this is um you know
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that I can use Siri AI as an assistant on device, but also as
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a chat bot, right?
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Because they want you to use it as a chat bot.
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When I want to use it as a chat bot, I don't in I
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don't automatically reach out for it.
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So we had to do some some tests for one of our dogs a
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few weeks ago, and everything was fine, but for a few days I was
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really stressed about it because it was a bunch of tests.
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And when I got the results, I didn't even think about going to Siri
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AI in the chatbot.
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I opened ChatGPT Pro, uh I opened ChatGPT, switched to 5.6 Pro, uploaded the
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images of the scan and the and the response from the doctor and said,
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please analyze this for me.
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And like because I know that that's a kind of model that is gonna
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take a look at the images, it's gonna think about them, it's gonna find
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some medical sources on the web, it's gonna cross-reference results.
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I don't trust having that kind of conversation about medical data for my dogs
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or for me for that matter, with Siri AI, because I know that it's
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a non-thinking model, right?
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That is gonna give me generic answers.
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And that that goes back to the part of my brain being poisoned, is
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maybe a strong word, but like getting used to these kinds of capabilities, and
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and we're not talking here, right?
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About custom agency setups or workflows, because I know that Siri AI cannot do
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We're just talking about a chatbot.
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I try look, I try, uh I didn't do the dog question, but when
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when we went on vacation, I was doing some trip planning beforehand, and I
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was comparing answers across Siri AI, Chat GPT, and Claude.
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And the the answers from Siri AI were so shallow compared to the actual
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options that ChatGPT and Claude gave me.
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And so, and that's a planning a trip, something that everybody does.
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And I mean, maybe you maybe people will be perfectly happy with the shallow
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options provided by Siri AI.
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So, look, I don't know, I really don't know what to make of this.
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Is it's it's if they can make the assistant part work reliably, that's gonna
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be my angle.
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Because as a chat, it's not an agent, it's not a great chat bot.
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I really hope they can figure out to the assistant part on device.
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Yeah, and the personal context part, and if so, that's gonna be my angle.
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I'm gonna give you another example because I I think like the the assistant
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thing is is good.
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And it's like it's an assistant for everyone, right?
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Like I am a technical person, I'm not interested in doing all the things
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that you do to you know with with like CLIs and and MCP.
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I just I I'm I dipped my toe in it very lightly, but you
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have gone much heavier than me, right?
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So I needed an answer to something the other day, and you I know
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how you would have gotten this answer because you just kind of explained it
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in the example that you've given.
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But there's there is the potential that I may be able to get faster
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internet at home, um, which is fantastic, but it looks like there's better fiber
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being laid in my local area.
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But I know I'm in a contract um right now, and so I just
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asked when did I renew my broadband contract?
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And because I didn't know, and it it gave me the answer.
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Your contract was renewed on November 28th, 2025.
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It was a 24 month contract, so it will be like it'll end on
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November 27th, 2027.
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And then I said, is there a cancellation clause?
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And it said, yes, there is a 30 day notice period required to make
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service changes or cancellations, but there's probably an early disconnection fee, which is very
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normal with these types of things.
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Um, and then it says you'll need to look up what that is, like
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go, you know, to talk to them basically.
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And I that I got the answer to that question way faster than if
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I would have gone to go through my email to try and find it
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because I didn't have even have an idea of when it was that I
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renewed, I didn't remember, so I would have had to search the name of
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my thing and then look through every email, right?
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Like, no, that one's a bill, that one's a bill, that's marketing, marketing bill.
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But and but this found it in seconds, so that kind of thing is
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very useful to me as a person who's not going to attach their email
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to an MCP server, right?
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Like, that's the difference.
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You keep using the word poisoned.
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I think it is a perfect word, like in that it's not your brain,
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your workflows have been have been infiltrated by AI purposefully, and you're doing incredible
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things with it, but that just changes your thinking, and so it it like
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the idea that you would replace Siri AI.
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No, you're not going to.
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You're not going to replace your these things for Siri AI, but it's it
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can still give good results.
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I can't answer the problem that you are having though, where it's just not
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giving you answers.
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Like, maybe that's a beta bug, maybe there is something just like horrifically broken
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with your index.
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I don't know what happens with that, right?
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But I think I'm having a better experience than you are, but my experience
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is nowhere near as good as the experiences you have with the tools that
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you're using because they're just more powerful.
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But I I just don't think that everybody needs that power, and it's it
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is more, you know, you use the word assistant, it's just a more it
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is a more powerful assistant, it is not like a work partner like what
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you have, right?
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Where this thing is like so powerful that you're working alongside it rather than
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just like you know, it's more like a co-worker than an assistant, say, right?
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But like an assistant is maybe going to be doing some simpler jobs for
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I I don't know what it means for your review though, man.
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And uh, you know, I don't know.
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I I don't know either, but it it'll I'm confident that it'll come to
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And even if it doesn't, I'll get the review done because I'm uh because
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I would I know myself, I would just prefer to do something inspired rather
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So Google have unveiled in the way that they do, which is always weird,
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uh, their new phones.
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So this is the full line Pixel 11, 11 Pro, um Pro XL, 11
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Pro Fold, along with their watches and some accessories.
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You know, this they've had their September event, right?
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Um that like what Apple has, they do it a little bit earlier.
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As is the way for basically all the companies that aren't Apple, they just
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do their announcements in a weird way, right?
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Like Samsung do it where the embargo lifts at the moment that the event
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begins so nobody watches the event.
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This year, Google had the embargo lifting from media in the morning and the
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event was in the afternoon.
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Hours early.
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Really weird.
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Very strange.
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Like this is like worse still, I guess.
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Um and they also they also had like a celebrity host it again there,
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Trevor Noah do it this time.
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I mean I don't know why they feel the need to continue having like
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daily show hosts, right?
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Like like talk show hosts to their events.
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It was better than Fallon, though.
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Did you watch it?
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Uh I watched a supercut and it was better than the supercut I saw
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So yeah, but still I just don't understand.
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Like I just don't know why they would do this, but this is what
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they keep doing.
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Uh the highlights uh I guess the highlight well actually the highlight is not
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highlight which is a system that they have that I'll talk about in a
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Um there isn't really a lot going on with the phones this year.
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Um they're essentially the same there is some there's some camera hardware improvements the
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the processors are a little bit more uh you know so MKBHD called it
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a frustratingly incremental improvement.
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Um and in his video is kind of saying that he just continues to
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be let down where like he's he continues hoping that Google is going to
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make a big leap with their hardware but they just aren't doing it.
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Then they just keep making very small hardware improvements.
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And there are some software improvements which at least for the time being are
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exclusive to this pixel maybe you know rolling out to more pixels etc etc
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maybe other Android phones because it is Android at the end of the day
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of course um the phones are more expensive um they're all about a hundred
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dollars more than the the phones that they're replacing in the pixel lineup um
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the way that they're doing this this time is weird.
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It're dropping the 128 gigabyte starting model which was 799 dollars for the 128
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last year which is weird uh it's now eight ninety nine for the two
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fifty six uh this is very similar to what Samsung did.
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Maybe this is an indication of what Apple could do.
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Maybe, right?
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Like $100 seems to be the thing.
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I don't know if Apple's going to increase the storage though, because they did
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that already.
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Do you think it's weird that they haven't increased the price of the iPhone?
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Like I feel like it's too late now.
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We're way too close now.
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And and I I'm surprised that they didn't just do it to take the
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edge off when they eventually need to do it.
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Does it surprise you, Steven?
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Yeah, uh a little bit.
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Um I thought that they would do it now.
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But then uh sort of my secondary thought that comes on the heels of
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that is there's not gonna be a regular iPhone 18 at this event, it
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seems like the the eighteen will be in the spring, and so the 17's
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gonna stick around longer, and maybe that gives them some wiggle room in this.
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I mean, these phones tend to get cheaper other than the RAM, but like
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the rest of the process gets cheaper over time.
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So maybe the 17 can hold out, but I do think the pros will
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be just more expensive.
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They could have just increased the pro price, though.
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Like they you know, they could they could have just done that.
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It's like it's not like they've been consistent with their price increases on everything
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else, right?
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That's that's true.
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Um, here's a weird one.
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The Pixel 11 Pro starts at 1099, so it's a hundred dollars now more
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for twelve gigabytes of RAM and two hundred and fifty-six gigabytes of storage.
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Last year it was nine ninety-nine for sixteen gigabytes of RAM.
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So it's more money and less RAM, but more storage.
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That's not great.
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Uh the eleven profold, not a lot has changed here.
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It's a little thinner and lighter.
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Um, it's not particularly exciting this year compared to the competition, it feels like.
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Uh it's now starts at $1,899.
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No one's gonna buy that phone.
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Which is rough, but no one's buying that phone.
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Um, because the the the Samsung phones are looking so good this year, where
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you know, like maybe last year or the year before, the the Pixel Pro
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was was seemed like the one to buy, but you know, now the the
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competition is kind of heated up.
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The hardware addition this year is something called highlight, which is the flash, basically
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the flash on the camera for the pixel phones can now be illuminated in
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different colors.
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So if you're talking to Gemini, it will glow in like Gemini colors for
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And also it will glow if you get a phone call, and you can
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kind of change the color or glow for different people, and that's it.
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Doesn't do anything else.
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It could do so much.
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No other apps, no other contacts.
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This is honestly like absolutely ridiculous.
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Like, this is so stupid to do this.
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Why would you do this?
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I don't get it.
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I had an Android phone back in the day, my droid had an LED,
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and you could set like different colors to mean different notifications.
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And it was awesome.
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I think people would find that fun.
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And if you don't care about it, you don't care about it.
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But if you do, and the Pixel phone is really for enthusiasts, it just
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seems like such a waste.
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I I really hope they revisit this.
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Well, they know it though, right?
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So from Joanna Stern, she says, Google told me it's quote, continuing to invest
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in this technology and that message notifications are coming.
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What are you talking about?
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This technology?
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What you're lighting an LED, a different color?
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Wow, really breaking the mold here.
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Like I don't understand this at all.
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How can you not get this feature ready for the launch of this product?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Seriously, how hard is it, right?
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How hard is it?
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Like if you get a message that it lights up.
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Just phone calls?
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What are we doing?
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Like this you created this feature for Gemini branding.
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Like that's what this is for.
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And that's just ridiculous.
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Like, come on.
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I I don't know.
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I I I find it very strange.
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Uh software.
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They've added something called camera looks.
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This is essentially Google's uh response to photographic styles, and it's using some of
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the same language in the communication that it's not a filter, it's changes to
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the processing of the images.
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But unlike Apple, uh, you actually get access to other elements like sharpness and
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grain, and the overall editing of the uh camera look is more like a
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regular editing, which would make Federico happy if Apple added this because it's not
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that little touchpad thing.
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It's actually like just go in and choose the brightness, go in and choose
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Imagine that.
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So I think that you know, I would like to see Apple continue to
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push photographic styles because I really like the feature, and maybe it would be
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good if they took uh a call from how Google is doing it here
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to make it a little bit more intuitive as to how you would make
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the changes.
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They also have a bunch of presets, so you could just use the presets,
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but if you want to get really nerdy with it, give me everything.
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Uh the camera app has a creator suite features.
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These are great.
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So a teleprompter inside of it.
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Uh, I use this in the edits app.
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It's really helpful to have a teleprompter just in the camera UI for people
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that need to record things to camera.
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Social framing guides, so you can put a guide to show like where you
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know what are the kind of the safe areas for content.
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Um automatic folder structures for video, speech enhancement, and magic capture that automatically generate
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stills and short clips from longer video recordings.
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All of this sounds fantastic.
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Like there are there are social media content creators that will buy a Pixel
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phone for these features, but then they'll probably roll out to other phones anyway.
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But I think this is a really great suite of features in the camera
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app for people that make any kind of short form video.
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All of this got me thinking, right?
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So this is Google's phone this year, and it seems underwhelming, right?
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I'm underwhelmed, at least hearing about this.
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Like the the phone itself just doesn't really seem like it's added anything of
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value in the thing, its new feature this year, which you know, we know
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what Google's like.
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Who knows if they'll keep it going year to year?
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Like I think about that radar system that they had in one of them.
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You know, but they just don't think they've implemented it very well.
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And it made me think like, what would it be like if Apple had
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competition for phones that ran iOS?
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Because the reason that this stands out so much of Google is that the
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competitors in Android are making much better products, right?
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In like in general every year.
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Samsung, and now Oppo, nothing, OnePlus, all of these brands make better phones for
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Android than the Android maker.
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Which is like an interesting thing because surely Google should make the best phone
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for Android, but they don't anymore.
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I think there was a time that they did, but they're not now.
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And I don't know whether it's Google can't, or if you had other companies
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making phones for iOS, that it would show the same thing for Apple.
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Do you understand what I mean?
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Like if there were other companies could make phones that ran iOS, would we
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also say, man, they're just not doing anything.
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Yeah, I I don't know.
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I I th I do think Google has a little bit of the Microsoft
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problem where they do make phones, but they also have to keep OEMs happy,
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mostly Samsung in Google's pay and Google's situation, where you know Microsoft with the
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surface line, like the surface and the pixel, I think, really are like spiritual
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So for like some good ideas, some interesting execution, not popular.
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And I think that that's uh that's challenging when you don't have the hardware
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and software in the same company.
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But yeah, this phone doesn't look too great.
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Um they had a bunch of other things.
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They had uh they have their watch, it's round, uh, continues to be round.
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I think the Pixel Watch looks great.
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Here's here's a line I found interesting from The Verge.
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Google claims it includes the most accurate GPS route tracking for exercise outperforming the
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Apple Watch Ultra 3 and the Garmin Phoenix 8 Pro.
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That's what they say.
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That's what they say, but I don't expect.
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I just don't expect it to sell products.
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I it's weird, right?
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Like, I don't I don't know.
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Like I don't really understand why why they continue to do this.
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Like I just it feels like that they peaked.
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Like they had a time when like the the pixel was so good, and
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it just feels like it's not that time anymore.
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But like they they feel like they have to do this, so they keep
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And you even see it like in in a lot of Google communication and
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like presentations, they use Samsung phones.
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I mean they basically just use it to get software that they want and
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into the world.
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And like you said, a lot of the stuff does roll out to other
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phones over time, which which hurts the the reasons you would maybe you would
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maybe get one of these.
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Um yeah, I think it's a shame.
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I I think there's some there are some really good ideas in some of
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these phones.
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Um, and I think competition is always good, but they just kinda I don't
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know, they just kind of do it, right?
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It's kind of like ah here here's what we did, and you know, that's
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about as far as it goes.
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Or as a counter to my question from earlier, maybe the Google phone isn't
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good because they have competition, so they're kind of just like ah right.
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I mean, maybe like if they were the only game in town, would they
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maybe work harder?
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Like I don't know.
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It's possible because it it doesn't feel like that they're at least this year
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that they've really pushed it.
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I mean, but this does go back to like the tensor chips, right?
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People were like, when that when that was announced, it was like, oh, here
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we go, they're gonna start competing, and they're just nowhere near.
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So, yeah, that it's falling, it is falling down over there.
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Which is interesting because that's also what people are saying about Google AI right
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now, isn't that right, Frederick?
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Oh, absolutely.
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We're in the foothills of Pixel Singularity.
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We're in the foothills of people changing their jobs.
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Yeah, it's not looking good for Gemini.
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But just give it two weeks and they'll get 1% better on a benchmark
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and then it'll change all over again.
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Well, I think that does it for this week.
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Thanks for hanging out with us today.
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Um, there's some links in the show notes.
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Uh we don't have a lot of time to talk about this, but Mike
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is doing something for the podcast a thon, collecting answers for Family Feud.
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There's a link to a Google form.
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Uh we play uh Family, we play Feuding Families.
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It's legally distinct.
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We play that every year as part of the podcast a thon.
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Uh if you would like to help me out, um you can fill in
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some of the form.
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It's just like general, like, you know, I ask you to think what's the
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first thing you think of when I say this kind of questions.
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Feel free to fill out the form if you would like to.
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Uh I'm gonna close it next week.
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No, no pressure.
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But do it if you care about things.
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We've had quite a lot of responses already.
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So good, which is good.
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Like I definitely have enough to make a good game, but uh having more
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always helps.
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Yeah, I'll link to it on a 512.
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I'm sure it crushed the Google form.
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I did actually I did have a a big spike, and I think that
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might have been why I was surprised.
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Power of blogs with so many people here, yeah.
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I guess the blogs.
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Well, you can find uh that and everything else we spoke about in the
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show notes at relay.fm slash connected slash 616.
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You can also leave feedback, drop us a note, it can be anonymous if
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And you can join and get connected Pro, the longer and ad free version
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of the show that we do each and every week.
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You can find Federico at maxstories.net.
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You can find Mike across a bunch of shows here at Relay.
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And you can find my writing at 512pixels.net.
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I'd like to thank our sponsors this week Fitbod, Bolt.new, Scribe, and Century.
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And until next week, guys, say goodbye.
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I do left you.