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00:00:21 ◼   ► now we're here to talk about a film that [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► is in theaters now which very rarely [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► happens but if we get enough people [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► who've seen it and if I've managed to go [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► out and see it which is tricky [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► what with the the problematic children [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► and all but a little less difficult when [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► it is a pixar film because I can take my [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► children with me to see it which I did [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► and that's why we're going to talk about [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► inside out [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► i'm joined on this podcast by other [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► people who have fortunately also seen [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► inside out and therefore can talk about [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► indian tacos out there hi Andy I'd like [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► to talk like Richard kind for this whole [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► show but I think that's why would I shot [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► my locker yeah that was good that was a [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► good Richard continue it was very it's [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► very polished David lower hello hello [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► hello I'm i'm really excited to talk [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► about this and I just know this this [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► episode is going to become a core memory [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► good John syracuse out there wouldn't [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► talk about pixar without John yeah Jason [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► I would have an opening statement if i [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► had seen this movie more than once but [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► it's so no I've only seen it once it's [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► true it's that new and my own personal [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► bing-bong mi I'm Marilyn that does [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► explain the cotton candy smell but well [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► it's part of that it was you know [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► animals were popular then that's great [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► because if you make them cry at the end [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► we got caramel em candy for my eyes it's [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► good to have you here thanks [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► we're not talking about we will leave [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► the debate about whether the cat talks [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► and kiki's delivery service to be able [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► to celebrate high notes are right i [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► would not be pasted will go to the end [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► we'll get that up down all right inside [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► I directed by the this is a film 4 2015 [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► always not about whether it's from and [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► it's from now because it's in theaters [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► ah we got you got your Amy Poehler as [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► joy you got you got your uh you got your [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► Phyllis from the office of sadness lot [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► of lot of [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► NBC sitcom kind of traditionally night [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► alumni from mad about you [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► yeah he was a must-see TV here bill [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► hader the rare he's on a different from [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► a different night of NBC lot of NBC [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► people here and Lewis Black who I [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► believe has never been allowed on NBC's [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► air when I first heard about this movie [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► it was in an article that was describing [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► have a crazy hippies and pixar we're [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► doing things that nobody understood and [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► how could it ever be a movie and it was [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► literally like a movie that's all about [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► that takes place entirely inside the [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► mind of a child like how could they do [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► that they're they're nuts it'll never [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► work kind of thing and I kept thinking [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► about that as i watched it that that [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► that's how you take a premise that seems [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► so out there and you end up with a film [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► that is I think beautiful and [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► interesting and has a lot to say about [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► actual like human beings and how they [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► behave while also being very [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► entertaining so i'll let you know just [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► off the top well let's let's uh you know [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► what what did you all take away from [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► inside out [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► we're gonna we're gonna start with that [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► John what would you know what did you [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► walk away with this film thinking about [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► you remind me of the of hearing about it [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► in that sort of adds to our contract [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► remember that they're crazy how could i [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► forget that movie it once it became [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► concrete I forgot all of that and I got [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► down to the business of how they're [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► gonna sort sort out this tension between [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► the world inside the head and the world [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► outside the head and when I was watching [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► the movie that's primarily [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► intellectually what I was watching for [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► how do you tell the story I because it [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► what's going on inside the head you [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► don't care about unless you also care [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► about what's going on outside [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► how do you balance it 5050 is it mostly [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► inside the head is it mostly outside [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► with just like a little angel or devil [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► popping up on the shoulder you know that [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► kind of trip this is sort of like the [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► inversion that rope that's what i was [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► thinking about when I was watching this [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► movie and the other thing that struck me [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► as I was watching it again [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► intellectually more than the other [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► emotional parts of the the story that [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► i'm sure we'll talk about it at length [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► was and i'm not sure about this you guys [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► can help me and see what you think [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► but kept thinking is this a movie made [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► for parents that kids might like or [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► system we made for kids that parents [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► might like [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► and obviously i am a parent and a lot of [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► times you watch moving you think this [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► movie is made for me there watching this [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► moving like has there ever been a movie [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► made aimed more squarely like moms and [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► dads then this supposedly quote-unquote [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► kids movie like isn't even a kids movie [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► or is it a parent's movie that has stuff [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► in it the kids might enjoy so that's [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► really my strongest first impression [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► that movie the balancing of the two [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► worlds and that inside out as a parent's [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► movie dangerously like an opening [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► statement but not one Merlin what do you [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► think [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► inside-out going into it even as [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► recently as a couple weeks ago three [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► weeks ago maybe my expectations were [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► impossibly low i seen the trailer and I [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► was just like oh boy not feeling great [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► about this because I mean yeah okay I [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► get it I see what you're doing here like [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► you know I i think i get with weather [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► going with this but you know kind of [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► like you said in the opening they manage [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► to do this impossible thing where they [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► had this they basically told the story [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► by analogy that was incredibly [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► compelling and I guess I got a little [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► bit of buzz of powerline had written one [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► of the games you guys know a platform [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► the internet he wrote one of the game's [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► the Infinity game for this and he's like [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► you seriously like this is really good [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► does maybe the best thing it down while [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► you're drunk you're totally drunk a [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► couple my pals and pixar it said like [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► hey don't like this and sounds like okay [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► you know whatever and i had made the [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► similar thoughts to what John had we're [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► like I'm not sure I can tell who this is [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► for my feeling is that like toy story 3i [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► think this kind of is one for the [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► parents may be evidence best by the fact [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► that the biggest laugh and the entire [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► movie is when joy and sadness slam in [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► the window at the end like a huge left [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► the two times that I've seen it but now [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► but I was only night we'll talk about it [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► length I was very it's obviously I felt [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► a lot of extremely strong emotions and I [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► cried a lot but the thing i'm still [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► turning over my head is how they managed [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► to pull off what they pulled off that's [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► the part of find the most amazing is the [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► the craft [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► of not just you know making this the [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► sappy story but you know who would have [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► guessed that you return sadness into the [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► hero of this story and i'm still turning [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► over my head how they did it and i think [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► it was a triumph [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► yeah it's certainly an interesting i [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► it's it's a philosophical take that I [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► didn't expect going into the film which [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► is that this is a movie that in some [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► ways is about appreciating being a [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► well-rounded person and that you've got [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► to have levels and that sadness is [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► actually part of life and one of the [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► ways you appreciate life which again I [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► think this may be leading to the idea [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► that this is a layer more for parents [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► than four children perhaps because [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► that's a level that's kind of nuanced [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► level but certainly I i was surprised by [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► that when i saw it [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► Andy you've got some opening thoughts [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► about inside out [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► yeah I I went into this with a lot more [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► optimism then many people did because to [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► me this is exactly the sort of movie [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► that I hope that pixar makes i'm also [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► looking forward to the minions movie [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► because I thought their hysterically [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► funny and in the group movies but we [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► don't want AI I don't expect or want [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► pics are to make a simple movie like [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► that that's it's it's funny it's [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► entertaining it's great what I'm looking [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► for from pixar something that is just [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► bizarre that you just don't immediately [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► see what the story is about you don't [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► know where this story is headed where [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► you don't feel as he feels that they're [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► really making one entire unit of a movie [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► as opposed to connecting a whole bunch [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► of some scenes will be fun to animate [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► some scenes be fun to joke about some [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► good voice work and so you have this [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► idea of here is a movie in which the [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► entire playing field of this movie is [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► abstract it's not where you're looking [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► at the life of this little girl and [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► occasionally there cutaways the inside [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► of her head [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► it's no no the entire thing it exists in [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► a plan in a world in which they have to [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► invent everything from start to finish [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► where if they decide that they want to [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► do a scene in which everything is just [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► an abstract shape like the dotted line [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► of the chuck jones short from the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► sixties they can do that and if they [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► want to invent new rules and breaking [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► rules they can do that too [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► I mean I really felt coming out of the [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► theater that this was like a google moon [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► shot you know where it's a crazy idea it [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► shouldn't work the only way to prove [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► that it's not gonna work is to actually [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► try it and then you find out that I'll [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► be darned this actually works for their [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► problems with it but we can actually fix [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► there's nothing more satisfying than [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► walking out of the theater seeing [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► something that you feel as though you've [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► never ever seen before and that really [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► is what what I how I walked out of this [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► David what are your initial thoughts [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► about inside out [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► well you know I went into it optimistic [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► because i'm at the point where you know [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► they've won my trust right I'll go with [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► them pretty much anywhere even the [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► sequel's okay that I mean you have cars [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► 2 i'm not gonna watch cars to that many [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► times but I didn't hate it you know and [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► so this you know just sort of like this [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► was the kind of thing I wanted to see [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► them doing 20 years in right you know [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► they're not just doing shrink five [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► they're doing something different there [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► doing something original and they've had [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► a huge opening with it I mean you know [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► forget the stupid dinosaur movie and it [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► really is a stupid dinosaur movie but [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► this is this is the best original movie [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► opening of you know how many years and [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► it the the it's such a hard sell [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► you know and it's not it's not from 3d [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► tickets and it's not from expensive [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► tickets it's a it's a movie for kids and [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► it's still keeping up with jurassic [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► world pretty well so you know what does [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► that say it's a really good movie and so [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► so I was optimistic going in and the [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► thing that the thing that makes me think [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► it's for kids though as much as as we're [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► getting out of it is that you know about [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► about a third of the way in I thought [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► you know my ten-year-old is going to go [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► bananas for this right and we all went [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► so we're all sitting there and you know [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► and I don't talk about this much but he [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► does have anger issues sometimes anger [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► and fear and just you know just getting [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► very tense and lashing out at sudden [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► moments and he's never been able to [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► verbalize this or explain why this [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► happened [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► or when this happens you what is it the [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► triggered it [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► I don't know I forgot right and watching [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► this by the end of the movie he was [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► bananas for it right because now he had [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► an analogy now he had a way to describe [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► what was going on in his head [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► now he had some way of visualizing what [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► anger could do to him and what could [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► happen if you let the anger get away [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► with it right and that loan [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► I mean yeah we're gonna go see the [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► minions movie we're not going to get [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► that kind of Revelation out of the [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► minions movie [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► this was just you know I i would have [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► loved it as is but just the insight into [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► his brain for both of us not just not [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► just him but for me and the sea change [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► that's come over him since we've seen it [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► because now he is able to sort of put [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► the brakes on and say wait nope i'm [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► letting that get out of control i can't [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► do that or or to be able to accept [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► sadness like you know when when we [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► talked about it after its you saying [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► well you know it made me think of when [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► grandmother passed away and I was very [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► sad and I didn't know what to do and [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► this this sort of let him except that it [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► was okay to be sad sometimes and that's [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► an important thing for kids I mean that [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► is the lesson the joy learns right you [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► can't always be happy you can always put [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► a smile on it and just get past it [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► sometimes you do have to be sad and a [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► lot of the modern world these days is up [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► just put on a happy face you'll be fine [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► and no it is okay to be sad [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► so so i think i think it's equally for [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► parents and kids I somebody in the [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► chatroom said and I had the same thought [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► to that these analogies will be used by [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► I think lots of people you know that [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► could be good or bad but I think [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► thinking about your emotions and and how [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► they how they affect you and that end [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► and how you access them having a [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► metaphor for that even if it is [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► something that has taken from a movie [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► could be could be really valuable and [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► III [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► I suspect something that my wife said at [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► dinner tonight went because she knew we [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► were going to be talking about this was [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► she's already seen just in her daily [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► life like working at the library that [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► people come in and you know are angry [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► and she's like yep there's somebody back [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► there you know pushing your buttons [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► that's what's happening it's just like [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► just to personify that a little bit more [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► about how you know why why are people [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► behaving the way they are and thinking [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► at that level about it and and and [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► creating some imagery around that I [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► think is interesting i mean i thought it [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► was fascinating that if you if you pay [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► attention [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► look at who's the central emotion ya [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► notice anyting each head as you see it [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► so i can the bus driver [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► they're all anger but in in the mother [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► its sadness absent father had anger [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► yeah and and that was just that and they [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► didn't edit in lean on that didn't like [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► how it out it was just there and I [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► noticed immediately as soon as that I [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► had I hadn't noticed in the trails which [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► is testament to how much as movie wraps [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► you into this world during the trailers [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► they showed the same seems like the [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► dinner table and whatever didn't notice [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► at all once i was into the movie the [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► second they cut inside the moms had one [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► just like it sadness is then charging [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► her head because they've trained you to [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► watch the movie by that point if they've [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► got you into the conceit around and you [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► know it now [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► whereas in the trailer you just go up [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► funny thing what did she say you know [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► yeah and it also kind of made me think [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► is it possible that the emotions in this [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► world can actually undergo transitions [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► because seeing how confident and assured [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► and not mopey sadness was inside her mom [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► said does that mean that at some point [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► sadness when you transitioned into [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► adulthood becomes coping knows [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► yes it seems it seems like an [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► interesting note that at that picture [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► was saying it was sending with that [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► yeah they're in a dress differently as [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► well and I really like the at the bit at [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► the end they do emphasize that the [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► control panel changes significantly more [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► buttons more more levels of detail and [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► now i have access to all the curse words [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► time for a sponsor break i want to talk [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► to you about our good friends over at [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► Harry's I like hairy stuff I use Harry's [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► products on my face you know I don't go [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► into an office every day I might shave [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► every other day [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► yeah imma [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► I'm fast and loose like that but when i [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► do shave shave with Harry's stuff now [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► shaping can be a pain bad equipment can [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► make it uncomfortable you can get razor [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► burn you get nicks I used to go back and [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► forth between different blades of you [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► know two blades and three blades and [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► four blades and sometimes use an [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► electric but then I'd have to use a [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► blade on top of that it was ridiculous [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► that was us [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► I i entered a shame spiral of shaving [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► but now i'm out of it and Harry's has [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► been a huge part in that now half the [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► price of the big branded blades that's [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► what you get for Harry's Harry's is not [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► a super-premium expensive i can't [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► believe i paid so much for this it's [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► just a razor blade kind of place and the [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► ship to your front door they bought the [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► whole factory they like the blades they [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► got from the factory in Germany so much [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► that Harry's bought the factory you get [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► a better shave respect your skin your [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► face your legs and your wallet no more [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► bad quality bit blades no more plexi [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► glass cabinets at the drugstore and find [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► a clerk and get them to unlock it [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► great starter set that they've got [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► fifteen dollars you get a razor you get [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► the moisturizing shave cream and you get [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► three razor blades and you can use my [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► promo code smell and get five dollars [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► off that for an even more amazing deal [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► men women it doesn't matter [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► all of us have hair that we want to [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► shave away and we need razors that shave [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► well and do not suck this is the moment [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► where I have to tell you and I know some [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► people are tired of hearing this for me [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► but i love the shape cream from Harry's [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► I i loved the razor i use the harris [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► razor everyday it's changed the way i [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► shave i follow their approach you know [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► you shave down menu shave up but their [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► shape cream which has got this mild min [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► sent I've actually switch from my main [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► my big brand shaving gel to the shape [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► because i like how it feels and I like [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► how it smells i was very smell sensitive [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► i don't like I've always buy unscented [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► it's very hard to find the unscented [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► shaving cream [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► Harry's shave cream is scented but it is [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► very gentle a very little mint smell [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► that I can smell when it's going on but [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► by the time I watch my face off at the [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► end of my shave the smell is gone and it [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► doesn't linger with me all day which I [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► hate [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► so I love [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► that about Harry's to alright shipped to [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► your door why quality shave looks and [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► feels great [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► what more do you need go to Harry's [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► dot-com right now five dollars off of [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► you use my coupon code smell with your [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► first purchase that's Harry calm and [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► enter coupon code smell for five dollars [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► off and thank you so much to harry's for [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► making men and women have smooth skin [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► without the hassle the moms the moms [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► people are all sitting around the table [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► all dress very seriously unlike a huge [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► console-like there at nasa mission [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► control right whereas inside the Riley's [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► head there dressed more fancifully their [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► control panels more like fisher-price [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► toy type of thing like that at every [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► level they really thought about all the [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► different things and some of them ended [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► up being important plot point someone [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► and it being gag lines and some of them [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► end up unmentioned at all like we're [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► just talking about the just they're just [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► the background of the movie but they all [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► ended in the giant like let's brainstorm [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► everything that we can say about the the [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► interior of the mind is clear that some [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► of them were elevated to this is going [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► to be an important part of the story [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► brothers were like this is a good idea [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► to that's just part of the world but [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► this isn't else is also interesting that [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► you have these the islands of what what [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► her world is really all about [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► I thought I was actually kind of scared [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► when I start co she's losing her ability [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► just to be a nut like okay I understand [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► that you become older and your ability [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► to simply say I don't I all I just want [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► to spin in circles until I throw up you [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► lose that you know hopefully when you [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► get into your teenage years but then say [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► oh god she's losing hockey she does that [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► mean that she's not gonna be she's going [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► to not want to play hockey anymore and [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► then when family starts to crumble that [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► starts oh noes that mean that she's [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► losing her connection her anchors to to [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► reality of and love I thought was really [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► interesting to see that you sort of the [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► the message of if there was one was that [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► it's not as though these things go away [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► forever but you rebuild a new version of [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► family that includes san francisco now [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► and you have a new version of hockey [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► that doesn't include the people that you [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► were playing with before but you [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► basically you had to destroy the old one [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► in order to build a brand new one that's [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► going to work for you for the next five [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► or six years [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► yeah that's definitely a parent message [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► because the message of other kids movies [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► is there is some sort of conflict is a [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► challenging your [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► for coming and you come out the other [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► side and so you have overcome it and [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► this one [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► like I don't know how much kids get from [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► this but like part of my feeling coming [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► out of the movie was just general cut [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► like there's like different melancholy [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► because it's like it's emphasizing the [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► thing that we all know as adults is that [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► as you get older and you know getting [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► more sophisticated control panel doing [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► all that stuff like it comes with [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► sacrifices those islands that crumble [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► and fall into think they don't come back [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► up and the ones that replace them are [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► different that they're there are parts [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► of yourself that are going to be [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► destroyed in painful ways not like [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► triumphantly destroyed and the Phoenix [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► comes from the ashes but as in you're [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► never going to get that back [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► that's like sort of the pain of growing [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► up right and kids maybe they're kind of [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► getting it but a lot of kids haven't [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► gone through that yet like in the movie [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► was unashamedly saying like this part of [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► you is going away and it's sad when it [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► goes away and the things they replace it [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► will be different and not as good and [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► deserving obviously be more [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► sophisticated more complicated more [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► interesting have their own interesting [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► challenges but the old you is dying and [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► the death of the old you is sad and for [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► a kids movie have that messages i don't [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► know it's it's a it's pretty [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► sophisticated and pretty serious i think [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► we any and the message the message of [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► the contestants just to underscore what [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► you're saying the the message that comes [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► out of that is not that this will be [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► replaced with something even more mature [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► or it will be replaced with something [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► different and the by analogy is [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► displacing other things it's like [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► literally getting rid of their going [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► into the memory dump they're gonna go [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► away and i think there's there's [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► something about that i think that's [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► ultimately what makes this movie its [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► wife for me the scenes in the memory [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► down for the ones that tore my heart out [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► the most was because that whole idea of [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► like one has a you know it made my kid [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► cry twice because I mean the idea of [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► like an unloved stuffed animal kind of [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► notion right there's this thing that I [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► remember used to used to like that not [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► only think about anymore isn't that [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► strange even a kid can get that but for [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► a parent I mean there's so many levels [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► that works on where you find yourself [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► thinking about me again why I can't help [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► but think of toy story 3 especially that [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► in the last act or III where it's about [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► so much more than toys and kids it's [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► about i mean the the the toy story 3 of [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► the parents we all know that we're the [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► ones that are needed where [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► once they're gonna go in the Attic [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► that's that's the part that becomes so [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► brutal as you're thinking like I [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► remember actually getting emotional but [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► I remember one day realizing that I [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► don't have that many memories that [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► precede being 45 years old up and i [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► remember having to stay with my kid was [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► in probably just about finishing [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► preschool was like wow it's very [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► unlikely that she's gonna remember [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► anything that happened to her before [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► this time she might remember one or two [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► things there might be things that we [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► help her build a memory about but like [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► all these things that like constitute my [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► entire relationship with my child are [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► going to be utterly obliterated miss [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► it's around the age of five between five [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► and 10 is when a huge amount of a [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► child's memories are very naturally kind [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► of wiped away and replaced with kind of [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► information so i don't know i think it [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► works on a lot of levels and it's it's [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► it's you know it but it can get to a kid [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► too and it's not you know i think that's [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► that's what makes a great pixar movies [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► you can take something this weird and [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► abstract and using things like [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► characters that are a certain color can [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► like take this out where the abstract [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► idea and make it something that's [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► incredibly affecting well and and you [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► know the again thinking of toy story 3 [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► about about halfway through something in [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► my brain clicked and now I mean I love [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► toy story 3 and I've said for years that [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► I mean we walked out of that and I went [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► that's the divine comedy i mean it's [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► it's purgatory paradise and hell it's [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► all there [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► and this is almost i would love to know [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► if if anyone involved in it [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► intentionally or unintentionally made it [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► into the pilgrims progress by john [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► bunyan it's it's the same kind of thing [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► an abstract journey from one place to [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► another and the growth of a person as [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► they run into all these extra things i [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► gotta say the word David it's an hour [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► and it is what is it that's what analogy [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► it's an allegory yeah and and it's it's [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► just so artfully done and just being [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► able to look at this and go all right [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► this is this is a little more ambitious [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► than cars too [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► well I mean but I mean something [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► something about it is is what these [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► characters represent because you could [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► look at somebody like Bing bong I'm i [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► mentioned writing bomb right again great [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► woman great rich great Richard kind [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► performance to always liked him [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► I think it's just perfectly match [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► he's now often in front and a cat in the [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► back and I don't have gotten the middle [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► somewhere but a character like that not [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► that different in some ways from you [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► know from your your Sully and monsters [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► and ink or something like that right not [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► that doesn't have a different but it's [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► it's what he represents in this story [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► and in in the allegory here and that [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► that this is the the loss of innocence [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► and that he's a he's a UH a purified [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► fragment of childhood sweetness that is [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► doomed [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► yeah I noticed that I such respect for [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► Pixar that sometimes to my detriment I'm [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► think I'm trying to get ahead of the [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► movie and thinking oh bing-bong he's [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► pink and none of the emotions are pink [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► so I bet that he gets to like graduate [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► out of this place and he becomes like [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► another part of the control room and he [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► turns into another emotion when really [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► love rationally there really was only [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► one way for that for his storyline to [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► end he he was he was living he was [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► living where he was living because he [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► had no role and he was lucky to and he [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► just the there's he had there's no use [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► for him in the world that was coming as [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► a parent I immediately saw a big bong [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► and he was like a red shirt and star [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► trek I'm like oh man we have to see [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► because the the imaginary friends don't [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► survive right they don't survive so I [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► immediately liked 00 Big Hmong it's not [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► gonna go well right so I knew that he [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► was doomed going in because I I you know [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► I've seen that I've seen that happen and [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► like Merlin said like you'll bring it up [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► to your kid remember your imaginary [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► friend over the like they're like what [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► you're talking about i never had an [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► imaginary friend you remember it because [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► they had when they were three or four [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► but they have no memory of it at all [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► unless unless you work to keep reminding [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► them of it and there but like if you [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► wait a couple years and go ahead [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► remember when you were three and you [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► have an imaginary friend will be like [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► you don't know I didn't like it like it [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► really goes to the memory dump and is [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► you know replaced by something else [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► entirely and the the kid is none the [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► worse for wear a little you know it's [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► like paternalism or maternal isn't like [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► feeling like you have our have to [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► protect your travels but that's that's [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► where this movie hit me a lot as a [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► parent is that [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► these things that are happening the kids [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► internal world the thing is crumbling [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► and the difficulties or whatever in the [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► movie and you know in our hearts we feel [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► like that this is this is our fault [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► somehow and some of it is like we got [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► the new job and moved to the new city [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► how to suspect your kid everything you [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► do affects your kid in ways you can't [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► possibly imagine [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► is it like your fault these things are [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► happening and then you want to protect [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► your kids from like I don't want parts [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► of their world to crumble I don't want [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► their first day of school to end in [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► tears and yet it has two and you have no [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► control over it and this is what's going [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► to happen and should you never have [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► moved they have to live in a bubble like [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► that your kid is going to go through all [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► these things and grow up and have the [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► same category experiences that you do [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► and you don't want this stuff to happen [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► but it's going to and that's why I gotta [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► have that the melancholy feeling for the [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► the parent angles like in many respects [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► it's outside the parents control and [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► it's all the parents doing you know [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► indirectly like not really but you do [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► you feel that way you know you can see [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► them when my mom talks in the kid and [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► says you know thanks for being so happy [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► for us or whatever like you feel [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► terrible if you've ever said something [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► like that because I can you know do you [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► realize what you're putting on your kid [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► at that point maybe you do maybe you [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► don't maybe you had a bad day like this [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► is a brutal movie for kids or parents [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► like it could I'd like that the kids are [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► never going to get that I wouldn't have [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► gotten to know you know ten years ago [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► like it's just it's just brutal i can [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► and in a way like that the parents but [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► we aren't perfect parents to do the [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► right thing all the time and and the [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► parents aren't saving Riley from all [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► this pain and they can't and sometimes [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► they're making it worse and I mean they [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► come through in the end that's all we [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► can hope to do man it's like daggers to [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► the heart [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► well and just like just like accepting [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► for Riley that sadness or joy rather [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► that sadness is important sometimes [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► that's also important for us to accept [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► that we're not going to be perfect [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► parents we can't be [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► we can't always save the day and we just [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► have to know when is the right moment to [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► save the day you know at the end of the [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► movie they come in and and they do the [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► right thing at the right moment and it [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► all clicks and when we in the memory [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► where she loses the hockey game they [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► came in at the right moment and they [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► knew how to fix that and and you're [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► being able to accept that [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► yeah we're going to have those moments [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► and hopefully we'll have a lot of those [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► and hopefully that's the majority of the [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► moments we have but we're not always [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► going to be there we're not always gonna [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► be able to save the first day of school [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► I don't think it was an accident that [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► the screen that I went to there was a [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► lie here I heard a lot more grown-up [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► crying oh yeah oh yeah oh my god this is [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► this is one of those when i looked when [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► bing-bong looks down at his arm and it [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► starts fading and I idea I was like I [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► know exactly what's gonna happen now and [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► he's gonna jump out of the wagon and [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► she's gonna get up there and and that's [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► the hero's journey right the mentor the [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► friend sort of falls by the wayside to [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► let the hero continue that is the [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► purpose the parents journey to isn't it [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► is it is absolutely i gotta let this [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► person going to fade away into the [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► background of this person's life and [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► Undertaker to the moon that's my job [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► that's exactly what John was saying that [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► like I'm having to realize every day is [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► that the the better i am at my job the [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► more I am figuring out the right time to [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► stay completely out of the way which is [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► a very difficult thing to accept much [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► harder than I ever expected and in a [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► case of something like that it's we [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► talked about this last night on Twitter [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► little bit Andy but the just the fact [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► that the way to use a wrestling term the [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► way bing bong sells it [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► I love that he's not sad in the pit [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► that's what makes it kind of 8 12 times [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► worse is he's like she's gonna be okay [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► is like don't feel bad you know he [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► doesn't signal feel bad about me is the [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► whole implications my whole job is to be [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► here I serve at your pleasure and like [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► just go take over the moon for me you [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► know like go do it this is our job [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► this is what we have he died with a [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► sword and shield in his hand which is [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► everything that you kind of want to do [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► also the env parents like it I i took my [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► kids to see this and then they enjoyed [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► it but i think i think very much it was [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► one of those things where they found an [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► enjoyable and have thought about the [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► emotion stuff afterward but it the there [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► is an emotional kick that parents get [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► that the kids don't get and I think it [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► stems from we talk about toys you [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► mentioned had that and and I was [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► thinking about this the when I was [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► putting my son to bed the other night [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► that you know his toy that he sleep with [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► every night to him is something that [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► he's going to give up at some point and [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► it's going to become kind of an abstract [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► fond memory [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► like oh yeah I had that monkey that that [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► you know slept forgiven or whatever [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► whatever it is an identifiable primate [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► that that that he has next has been [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► every night and for him that's going to [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► kind of fade away and and and that'll be [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► that for me [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► that thing is a representation of his [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► childhood and so in the end it's way [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► more sentimental for me it's way more [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► important emotionally for me than it is [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► for him even though i don't need to have [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► it next to my bed when I go to sleep he [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► does eat indian he will put it away and [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► that'sthat's all the stuff that I'm [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► thinking about when I'm when I'm looking [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► at bing bong is his you know his job is [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► to be is to fade away but you know as a [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► parent you also you know you mourn him [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► fading away because that's childhood [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► fading away [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► it's like I've I've got this paddington [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► bear sitting on my nightstand that I've [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► had for 35 years and so he still there [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► I haven't I haven't totally put him away [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► but when i was little he had a voice he [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► had a personality he interacted right [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► you know i was doing the whole jim [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► henson thing with them and it had [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► nothing to do with the actual Paddington [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► books or anything he abuses this totally [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► different personality that's good [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► because I'll be unauthorized fanfiction [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► David yes and I wouldn't I wouldn't do [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► that we want to talk about the star trek [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► place it but a couple years ago [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► you know I i picked him up and I thought [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► you know can i still do the voice [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► because you know that was before my [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► voice changed so it was a very high sort [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► of free voice and and i was able to [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► approximate but he sounded older and he [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► didn't you know the character didn't [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► quite come all the way back and it [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► wasn't quite the same and and obviously [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► I don't play with him all day long [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► because you know I'm not nine anymore [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► I know it's hard to believe and and and [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► that was that it was a similar kind of [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► sadness for me that that was like all [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► right this was a huge part of my life [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► this was a very important thing to me at [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► one point and it's not that I've [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► forgotten them it's not that I've let [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► him go completely but I can't quite get [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► that back and and that's not gonna come [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► back and it bent it's ok that it doesn't [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► compare but that's the irony is that [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► even I still got my first and second [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► stuffed animal they both been passed I [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► was a big fan of stuffed animals they [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► both passed on my kid [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► one of them is a stuffed dog my parents [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► got me was in the hospital when I was to [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► any other ones a teddy bear that i had a [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► few years after that even though I look [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► at them and it's a husk of what it was [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► because it doesn't it doesn't mean the [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► same thing so that's the other part of [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► this is even if you are like a memory [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► hoarder and you keep all the stuff [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► around the the the essence of what made [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► that thing special when your kid is gone [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► because you're not a kid anymore and [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► that's that's ultimately the sadness [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► inside of the sadness is that you know [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► you got what you want to still be really [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► into that stuffed animal will know [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► there's a part of you that knows that [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► that's gone that is in the memory dump [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► and will never come back even if being [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► more still around [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► they will be looking cute thing we think [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► about twice a year but that that's [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► that's the part that really gets me is [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► that a no I thought I'd love to talk a [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► little bit about the mechanics because [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► it sounds obvious but like to talk about [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► the mechanics of how you take this [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► really abstract idea using things as [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► simple as these avatars and these colors [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► the way the role of color and this is so [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► important to wear by the end I mean like [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► I my note here my first know right down [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► like that the moment I see a memory [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► that's blue and gold [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► I'm making that is one of the most [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► brilliant cinematic strokes I've ever [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► seen [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► I like it started crying you explain [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► right but you explain that to somebody [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► it sounds it sounds so trite it sounds [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► so silly but like the the ability to [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► take all those incredibly abstract [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► emotionally heavy ideas but then create [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► what you call what you want the [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► mechanics or there they give the world [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► building a visual language gym right [TS]

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00:36:10 ◼   ► if you're afraid you're like I don't [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► know how it's going to feel I don't know [TS]

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00:36:22 ◼   ► space we got a queen-size mattress put [TS]

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00:36:33 ◼   ► listeners it's actually a really [TS]

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00:36:37 ◼   ► to have my casper mattresses now casper [TS]

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00:36:39 ◼   ► how much would you pay the answer is a [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► lot less than you'd pay at a premium [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► mattress store five hundred dollars for [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► twin all the way up to 9 50 for a king [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► you compare that to the industry [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► averages it's a good price and now you [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► can make it even better by giving fifty [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► dollars off any mattress purchase by [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► going to Casper dot-com / smell that's [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► my last name and using code smell at [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► checkout terms and conditions apply [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► thank you so much to Casper for [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► sponsoring the incomparable this is a [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► difficult this high difficulty paying [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► high degree of difficulty right if [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► you're in the Olympics and you you tried [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► I've that's got a certain number of [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► flips right you they say it's a high [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► degree of difficulty [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► this is that I to me that it's hard i'm [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► a little bit i think getting started it [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► is i think it shows the skill that the [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► story department has that the brain [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► trust has that that that Pixar has [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► building these things because you need [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► to have done this is pro level stuff you [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► need to have done a lot of these two to [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► get this right and I do think they get [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► it right because there is so much [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► world-building in the first 15 [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► minutes where they have to show you the [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► mechanics of what happens inside the [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► head and how it how it works outside in [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► the in the person that the the balls go [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► around and there's the thing that goes [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► to long-term memory and there's the core [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► thing that happens with the core [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► memories that glow and I have to admit [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► that there was a moment where I thought [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► wow this there's a lot of information [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► here like this is this is complicated [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► it-it-it past pretty quickly and after [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► about 10 or 15 minutes i thought well [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► you know even if that was a lot of work [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► now it's all pay off because now i [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► understand how this world works but it [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► was it is not a simple you know it's not [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► like what would it be like to be an and [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► it right it's it's a little more [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► complicated than that [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► hey the toys come to life they lead [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► another thing we do understand which is [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► we understand how people are born and [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► their babies and they grow so they [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► started out with the baby and the [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► control panel with the one button and [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► the one emotion of joy and then [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► switching just feel like they I think it [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► was a brilliant way to introduce the [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► world because if they had dumped you [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► right into Riley with her sweet of [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► people on her control panel [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► it might have been a lot to take in but [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► by bringing you by taking you through [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► all she was a baby and she had one [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► button and it was basically she was [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► happier she was said and moved up and [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► became you know like that that sort of [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► brings you along it tells it tells you [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► the rules of the world by analogy two [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► stages of development that you do [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► understand and then we spend most of the [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► movie and the however all she is [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► nine-year-old ten-year-old and that that [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► feels comfortable to us because we have [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► advanced through you know things and [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► showing you [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► they do a couple of like montages you [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► know of of the world building inside and [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► things happening outside and that is a [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► pretty even split between inside outside [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► inside outside with like a voiceover and [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► and the the whole setup I felt like it [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► was very smooth i didn't feel [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► overwhelmed at any point and I I i saw a [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► little bit of the wires how they were [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► doing it but I thought that was fine [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► because I like I said by the time but [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► I'm they're up to any of the scenes that [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► were in the trailer i was completely [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► sold on on the mechanics of how they [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► were going to the movie like it was a [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► second nature for that [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► yeah I i had some drive home thoughts [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► that kind of bad away thinking that well [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► it doesn't make sense that if this is [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► true that maybe that shouldn't have been [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► true and they stated a rule that's [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► beginning that didn't seem to be [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► consistent at the end but it'sit's me [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► write it really is about degree of [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► difficulty where the overall impression [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► that this movie made me with such that [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► it doesn't matter it's this is like [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► arguing that that tomato is not actually [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► a vegetable you just sound you're [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► technically correct but you sound [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► foolish because you're not able to see [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► the reality that's around you and [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► there's just I mean so much that's [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► deeply resonant and unfortunately i [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► don't have kids and after a movie like [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► this that is one of those times where i [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► am the am compelled to say that [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► compelled to say that the sad that I [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► don't have kids and even then even there [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► there's a lot of deep residents for the [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► people that you feel as though you were [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► serving rolls you're hoping that you're [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► serving a certain role in people's lives [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► are hoping that you're doing the right [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► job for them in your own life you [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► recognize the times when boy that was [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► really really tough and I did that thing [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► that I had to do and part of me did [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► crumble away and die and it was replaced [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► by something else but it was something [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► that is not correct to call it [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► necessarily something better but it's [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► something different and that's just sort [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► of the natural way of things and they're [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► very few I mean they're do I can't think [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► of many movies that are intended for [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► kids that can really just said its hooks [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► that deeply you what when the complaints [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► that i've been reading off and on online [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► is that this is not something that kids [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► are really going to get but that's ok [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► there how many great movies have I seen [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► where I enjoyed them on a certain level [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► when I was nine ten or eleven but only [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► when i became an adult and had different [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► perspective was able to really see [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► everything that was going on it because [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► it just opens new layers as you get more [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► layers of sophistication in your own [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► self is a ticking time bomb for kids [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► yeah i watch it now that we're 30 and [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► they have their own because they're [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► gonna watch it again and go all my god [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► movie is destroying me what is happening [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► i'm seeing it again for the first night [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► the the other part i agree with you and [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► there's times where I thought like you [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► know in that world building if if said [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► it touches something that supposed to [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► turn blue that doesn't always happen i [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► had this [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► I'm kind of thoughts but there's another [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► part of me and this is I guess my is [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► Kiki really talking to the cat part for [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► this one excellent and thank you [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► that wouldn't be a visit without me [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► doing that actually I have a I have a [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► kitty cat thing i have a Kiki note 2 so [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► yeah but the but there's a part of me [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► that also think that somebody who is [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► very interested in the idea of [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► mindfulness as i get older and I think [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► more about where emotions come from the [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► the movie they can see the movie that [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► really that works is that there's this [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► control panel in your head and your [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► emotions are guiding what you do the [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► thing that they couldn't do without [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► overcomplicating it is the idea that we [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► also do have control over our emotions [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► right so like when my daughter now we're [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► talking about tonight as tony was kinda [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► stressing out as I couldn't really have [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► that many smart things to say about this [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► what should we talk about it was telling [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► her how like she said well you know she [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► really liked the scene where anger goes [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► against the light bulb how great is that [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► power and plug it in and it's like we [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► were like yeah but you know hangers [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► hangers doing the best he can [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► in that case but like think about what [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► really happened there what we say is [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► we'll anchor had this idea that we can [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► fix this [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► logistical problem my problem of the [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► mechanics of the film basically we fix [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► this problem by running away and that's [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► the story but let's say what really [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► happened rally was mad so she decided to [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► run away from home like when you put it [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► in those terms like any other movie that [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► wouldn't be as interesting but in this [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► case there is this interplay between [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► like what I don't know how you talk [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► about the different parts of ourselves [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► you know without sounding like a loon [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► but like we do have some control over [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► our motion motion an awareness of our [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► emotions and we can with practice get [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► good at deciding who gets to push the [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► button and it but I mean I think if [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► they'd added that as an overt thing that [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► O'Reilly was like that Riley was up [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► sending you know something in a [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► pneumatic tube that they had to all [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► agree on like that that's not the point [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► the emotions are these different island [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► island sorry term of art but these do [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► these different characters with these [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► different jobs different roles but we as [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► people as we get older have more and [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► more executive function over what those [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► emotions will do will do so you know the [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► mechanic they couldn't have without [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► overcomplicating it is the rally also [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► has an impact on her own emotions and as [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► she gets older she'll have more and more [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► ability to do that and but i think i'm [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► glad they didn't overcomplicate that I'm [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► glad they gave us the mechanics [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► understand the vocabulary of how this [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► movie is telling the story and you know [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► it's one of those things where like you [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► know what I like you said and like I [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► don't care if it's all exactly right [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► according to the rules if it feels right [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► it feels emotionally right that this is [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► this is how it feels to be a person [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► the beauty of the of the screen the [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► light bulb there is that you know you [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► have moments of crystallization that [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► come from an emotion and then you move [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► from there and you have to act on them [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► and I felt like that was the metaphor [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► that we really got with screwing in the [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► anger light bulbs and you can't give you [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► a light bulb unscrewed yeah and great [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► for the idea which was you could run [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► away and then she acts on it right but [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► its I like that idea that it's like this [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► is a gem of an idea that comes out of [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► anger but anchors not in the driver's [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► seat the whole time after that it's just [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► like that was the moment that end and [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► you know I think we all feel that way [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► you you have an idea and if you are [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► mindful enough if you if you are enough [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► connected to your own emotions you can [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► be like all right I know where this is [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► coming from and I can you know I can [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► manage this idea and if you have any if [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► you have less of that then you just act [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► out because that idea is there but i [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► think it's interesting the way the way [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► it's it's it's visually put in the movie [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► with the light bulb that goes in it's [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► like we're going to let anger put this [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► in there and then it's in there and it's [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► an end and you're on the path that point [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► she's on that well and I think some of [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► that is is latent that if you if you [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► think about it [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► where do they all sit and Riley's head [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► they're all kind of running around [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► haphazardly where's by the time you get [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► to the mom's head they all have seats at [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► a console right there organizer roll [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► their insurance close they know what [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► they're doing and end up having Los [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► Angeles some have when when you get to [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► see the other adult characters into [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► their heads and and you know to varying [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► degrees but they're there in much more [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► of a controlled much more of an [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► organized fashion than in any of the [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► kids heads are the animals hits which I [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► guess we'll get to later I hope we get [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► to later because i love the cat but you [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► need so i think that is there but again [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► they didn't they didn't call a lot of [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► attention to it they didn't go hey look [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► at us we're doing this extra layer of [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► organization to these [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► characters they just they let it be and [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► they focused on Riley's emotions which I [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► thought was was the right thing and it [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► definitely works mean it [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► what I liked about anger is that it's it [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► again message because top of the movie [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► if it's not necessarily correct [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► psychologically but you have to sort of [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► you there's a residence the fact that [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► anger does the best that anger can just [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► like joy does the best that joy can wear [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► Joy's answered everything is well what [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► if we just force ourselves to be happy [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► anger is like I've gotta do something [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► now I've got to do something active I've [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► got to do something aggressive and of [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► course his his aggression wasn't simply [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► run away but i'm going to all of our [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► memories are back home let's go back [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► home and we'll get them back again [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► without understanding that no you can't [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► go backwards you can only evenly really [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► go forwards but it's I think that one of [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► the most important things about this [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► movie when the most healthy things about [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► this movie is understanding that the [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► emotions that in a lesser movie would [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► have been the villain sadness and anger [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► teaming up just to undermine undermine [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► Riley and every at every event this is [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► the statement here is that no no both of [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► these emotions have a seat at the table [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► I mean one of the many things that you [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► reflect upon when you think about the i [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► will say saintliness of Mister Rogers is [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► that he one of his best songs was have [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► never been so angry that you want to [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► just bite and at entire segment [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► basically telling kids don't be afraid [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► of your anger don't be ashamed of your [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► anger you were you the reason the the [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► reason why your brain is wired to be [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► angry about things sometimes it's [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► because it's a natural emotion and so it [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► had you have to you don't always have to [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► express it but you always have to [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► process it and so if I am I don't want [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► to get ahead of ourselves here but the [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► I've when the other things that struck [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► me immediately when i was coming out of [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► this movie was that I had no idea that [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► one day I would say that the most [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► brilliant scene I've ever seen animation [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► ever was the scene was a scene in which [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► three people simply hug each other [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► because that is just the weight of [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► 10,000 anvils just striking the ground [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► outside your house your house shaking [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► everything [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► and the subtly in which this was not [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► only with the great subtlety with which [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► this was rendered animated the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► performances that pixar got out of those [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► three actors and also the importance of [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► that simple thing the entire movie comes [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► together with a hug and I'm sure that [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► anyone who's listening to this is [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► already heard this before but just in [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► case i want to give the context but the [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► fact that this was all with the movie [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► was about it's not going to be the this [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► is gonna be a frantic car chase through [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► san francisco and it's going to be got [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► cars are going to be leaping over hills [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► and it's going to be a big helicopter [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► shot over the over the bridge as they [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► chase after something rather it's going [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► to know it's going to basically this is [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► going to crisis is gonna end the way [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► that would end for real and it's going [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► to end the most difficult way to write [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► in the difficult way to act and that [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► both as an emotional closer to the [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► storyline and also a representation of [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► everything that makes this a truly great [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► it's all there in three and a half [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► minutes but that's why this movie it [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► doesn't end up not being completely [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► devastating to parents because for most [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► of the movie from the parent's [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► perspective you see that this child is [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► in trauma and then in freefall [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► practically the whole world that these [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► parents worked to build up and are they [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► built they built her happy life they [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► built her into a healthy happy person [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► with hobbies and interests and [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► achievements and skills and personality [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► and as it's all crumbling down you see [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► how how powerless the parents are to do [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► anything about it how little awareness [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► they even have that things are that [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► things are going wrong and it's like a [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► horror movie for parents and to the to [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► bring it back at the end it's like to [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► give you hope to say even though parents [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► you're going to be clueless and you're [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► going to be dealing with the moving [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► truck that's lost and you're not going [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► to understand that your child is because [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► growing up and these things are [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► happening and like it you know in the [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► end if you are just there at the right [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► time with like you know that you don't [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► have to that these things are going to [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► happen they're going to be bad [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► I and it's not hopeless it's not because [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► it is certain point the movie it seems [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► hopeless certain point in the movie [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► you're like well that's it this is going [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► to be serial killer like you know [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► they're just gonna you know forget it [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► just signed the kid up like it's just [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► it's so so you notice how it feels [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► inside the kid's head up [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► and you're busy with other things like [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► is there anything we can do is it [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► hopeless and it's like you're if you're [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► not there ninety percent of the time if [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► you just there for the ten percent of [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► you just there when it counts for that [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► hug at the end right to like the back [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► ensure everything up and that can help [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► build new islands and that you know the [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► the the mixed memory with the blue and [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► then the other thing or the and a lesser [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► movie the triumphal return of the orbs [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► they would have been super bright not [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► just yellow but look at what now that [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► you're an older person they're super [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► bright know they're never gonna be that [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► bright again they're always like that [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► they're always going to be darker like [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► that you know it's not they're not going [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► to be super shiny triumphant white light [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► streaming out of them that's not the end [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► of this movie the parents aren't going [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► to be that white light for the thing [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► like the parents are just absent or [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► screwing up for most of the movie don't [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► even know their kids gone frantically [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► looking for them and just you know it in [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► that moment it sells you parents your [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► there is hope [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► like it's terrible and everything and [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► you're probably doing a bad job with the [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► time but if you're if you know if you [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► get the basics right if you're there [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► when you need to be that there is there [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► is hope I still felt at it you know [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► large overwhelming sadness coming out of [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► this movie but the hopeful barbie and [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► makes it knotted up down or a movie at [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► all [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► well another thing I loved about the the [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► rebuilt islands and and there they are [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► different and they're bigger and you [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► know with different shapes and buildings [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► and everything is the thought and I mean [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► this has been it would studies have been [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► talking about this for a while that we [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► kind of rewrite our memories all the [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► time we we don't always have every [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► detail and and the sharpest details [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► might stay there but then you remember [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► someone is wearing a different colored [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► shirt than they actually wore or you [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► remember we're river pet who was there [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► who wasn't actually there are little [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► things like that and i loved how the [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► rebuilt islands I mean yes she still had [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► a family Island but it was different and [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► she still had the sports our area and it [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► was different and you know it so it was [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► a nice evolution but they were the [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► colors were so much more muted [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► everything was less less whimsical but [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► if she had a sibling born her family [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► Island would have crumbled to dust and [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► disciplines I've seen this happen [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► absolutely and you need a new family [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► I'll it has room for this other person [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► and where the hell did they come from [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► like even just something as simple as [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► that which again like one of the ideas [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► that could have been up on the big board [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► like you got it can't fit in where you [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► can fit in the movie but like so much of [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► that Island analogy and just like it [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► watching them crumble and watching the [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► new ones we built like that that fits so [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► well with so many experiences of that [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► particular phase of childhood for Riley [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► having to share that crummy little attic [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► room with a brother or sister oh my god [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► it's been it's been known to happen [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► don't have my keys cat thing by the way [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► the sophistication that I kept thinking [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► they were going to go to I did actually [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► but I get the more I realize they [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► weren't going to go to the same reason [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► they weren't you like there's lots of [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► ideas that can be up on the big board [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► that can fit in this movie they didn't [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► go to this one it's a good idea because [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► going in this direction does not get you [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► anywhere good but like inside the head [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► of every one of those individual [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► emotions of course are a bunch of other [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► emotions right there you know who's [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► running anger like that's it's not the [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► executive function thing that Merlin was [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► talking about but it's closed was like [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► once you're doing this kind of modeling [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► thing that every sort of actor has these [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► individual components with the control [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► board that just reverses and then you're [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► off to the races [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► alright so they didn't do that even for [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► like a little stinger a post-credit [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► sequence they didn't do that but i think [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► you could do some fun stories will you [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► get out in like I'm creating some of [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► this from slate culture culture gabfest [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► but I didn't like lust or maybe [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► ambivalence about that pre-puberty it [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► saves them from a lot of stuff that's [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► why they had the gags at the end if you [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► get into a post pretty yes you need more [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► players at the table because a little [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► bit weird why you'd see on the parents [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► control panels a similar suite of people [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► but you know again scope you got you [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► can't fight scope creep here [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► well you know they do say that like [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► taste is made up of like four different [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► for different components and different [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► degrees right so it's like the varying [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► degrees but you're right then that their [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► sub components inside disgust and anger [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► and they they interacted different ways [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► and and they they combine the team up in [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► different ways like schadenfreude what [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► is that a combination of pp doctor was [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► talking about this i think cash I've [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► heard so much about this i forget me on [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► fresh air was talking about i guess [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► originally if you guys know jump in but [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► originally it was supposed to be joy or [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► happiness happiness and fear they're [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► supposed to be [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► yeah the two main characters [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► you guys have any color on that yeah one [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► and I'm sure that was part of the idea [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► behind casting Amy Poehler and Bill [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► Hader together because we know they play [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► well together so I it was that they had [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► a moment where they realized that [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► sadness was a player that needed to be [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► in here and that's when that's when [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► everything changed apparently yeah and [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► then think about sadness in the movie is [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► that give her kind of a dual role as [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► like the touching things turn things [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► boobs like oh is this the thing that [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► makes you sad but then when she shows [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► like it were talking about like that the [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► sophistication of the layout inside the [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► thing we're in Raleigh said they're just [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► kind of running around no no to do a [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► one-point joy is driving a truck circle [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► on the ground and trying to put like [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► that is that is a child sophistication [TS]