The Incomparable

00:00:02 ◼   ► the incomparable number 250 through jun [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► uncomfortable i am your host jason's [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► deli [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► we're here with our what has become an [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► annual tradition where we wrap up two [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► things at once the season of Game of [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► Thrones and we talk about other shows [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► that we watched if we can remember them [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► this season that's it so what the way [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► with this is gonna work we're going to [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► do some stuff about other shows at a [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► high level that we that we liked maybe [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► just like don't know that we can [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► remember and then we will shift gears [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► and blow the spoiler horn and talk about [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► the season of Game of Thrones joining me [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► to talk about TV from this past season [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► of fine panel of people David lawyers [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► out there hello David [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► hey hey um I'm looking forward to [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► talking about Malini sure sure [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► 10 more and also that there hello winter [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► was with is going on the tanker winter [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► is no longer coming [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► it's always good with your left yeah so [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► many years ago we got tired of your best [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► couple [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► Erica and sign hello hello no it'sit's [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► spring it's the spring of my [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► discontinued almost summer and John [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► siracusa is out there hi john i'm sad [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► not to be doing this in person i know [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► you'll be old ways are best [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► yeah I know but they moved to Game of [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► Thrones still later so we can't do it in [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► person anymore and joining us as a [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► special guest one of the people with [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► money actually he's not here who helped [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► me recap episode by episode the game of [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► thrones season on the TV podcast part of [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► the grating comfortable network it's [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► brian hamilton hi Brian very happy to be [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► here Jason [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► okay before we get to Game of Thrones [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► let's talk about some other shows that [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► we saw the season just I mean this is [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► really just an excuse to bring up some [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► shows that you watched that you liked or [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► that you didn't like just to get him out [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► there because we feel like this is as [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► good a time as any to kind of bookmark [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► be you know close the books on the TV [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► that we've been watching the last year [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► Dan more when we start with you with [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► their shows that you wanna you wanna [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► honor here or dishonor either way [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► yeah yeah either I there are there are [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► many shows that water and we spent we [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► spent a long podcast talking about many [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► of the superheroes lyrics that we we [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► people show that i won't go into more [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► detail on that i will say a couple of [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► shows that i really enjoyed this year um [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► justified came to an end after six [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► seasons in a really i thought really [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► nice wrap up one of the best sort of [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► cohesive crime TV shows that i've seen [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► the last several years that's one [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► otherwise all-time favorites [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► she likes a great it's a great show it's [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► well-written it's funny but it's also [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► you know intense dramatic at points [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► Timothy Olyphant is fantastic hard to [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► you know give him enough credit as [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► nectar and walton goggins also fantastic [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► he's if you've seen him on the shield or [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► in his various other performances this [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► is this is truly I think one of his best [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► roles so i think that was among my [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► favorite shows this year [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► brooklyn nine-nine I had a headache [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► solid second season i really enjoyed [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► yeah I don't watch a lot of sitcoms but [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► that was one that made it to the to the [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► top there and I really really liked it [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► that is my favorite comedy on TV right [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► now is provided 9i think I wouldn't do [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► that i think i would agree with that and [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► then the other thing I was going to [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► mention which of course is now is just [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► totally flown out of how it's going to [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► mention of Star Wars rebels is a the [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► animated show which is fantastic i [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► really i just got into a clone wars last [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► year and sort of gone back and watch all [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► that on netflix and while I really came [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► to love that show I you know I and they [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► sort of cancel it before its time I was [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► like well as hold and making a new show [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► is probably gonna suck a nice are [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► watching it's really good and if you are [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► if you have watched clone wars it is it [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► is a successor to clone wars like there [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► is direct contracts out there is is [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► there Dan yes like the last seen it [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► makes it very clear that there is direct [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► community like Star Wars rebels a lot it [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► is great fun and it's about like the [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► early days of the rebellion basically [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► right before that the original Star Wars [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► movies up and and you've got some great [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► you know performances Freddie Prinze jr. [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► plays a place a Jedi [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► yeah you know and a lot of other eight [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► great characters in there too who are [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► who are just really well-drawn it's sort [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► of like a it's fun because you get the [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► like sort of band of misfits yeah [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► they're traveling together for like yeah [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► the rebellions not quite a thing yet but [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► there are lots of appearances by [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► characters from the original movies from [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► Clone Wars you know like there's [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► definitely some time [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► in there and so it feels like a really [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► it feels like a really solid part of the [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► star wars universe and I think and I and [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► all the characters are really well [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► fleshed out i think they do a nice job [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► of spending time with each of them and [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► making you actually care about what [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► happens to them so I've actually seen [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► the premiere of the second season [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► because they showed its star wars [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► celebration and its really knock your [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► socks off is all i'm going to say and [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► I'm really looking forward to the season [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► look at this guy [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► thank you thank you acknowledged yeah i [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► think that show like Clone Wars has a [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► certain sadness over it because you know [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► yep what has to happen before the [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► beginning of a new hope so all the [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► characters that you're looking hang out [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► with and enjoying at the very least [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► they're going to be defeated exiled [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► hidden or whatever [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► most likely they'll be dead if we're [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► going to go with the continuity like how [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► many Jedi were hanging around the [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► beginning of a new hope that many so is [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► a bunch of Jedi hanging out here maybe [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► don't get too attached that's kind of [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► set like you know that this rebellion is [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► not going to be triumphant because it's [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► only triumph it's barely trying to the [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► end of a new hope certain this is the [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► series are going to end so I I kind of [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► feel that melancholy watching all these [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► characters like they're they're giving [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► it their best effort there flying around [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► there being trouble for the empire but [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► in the end it's gonna need a farm boy [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► yep yep it's a good show up that's been [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► the dinner time entertainment with my [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► family like something the whole family [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► can watch I anyone anymore damn i just [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► to say that this was apparently the year [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► where all of my shows ended because in [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► addition to justified Parenthood parks [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► and recreation mad men there are at [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► least a couple others in there to work [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► and some of us the USA shows which I [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► enjoyed sadly got cancelled like covert [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► affairs which i think i mentioned last [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► year's TV podcast which I really liked [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► was really good spy drama and they [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► cancelled it so yeah my uh my list of [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► shows has been window down and two shows [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► that I Drive will say two shows that i [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► dropped after watching the first season [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► and and sort of half-heartedly enjoying [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► the first season with the black list and [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► sleepy hollow i watch the first couple [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► episodes of the season of both of them [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► was like we're not really doing anything [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► for me so I kind of gave up on those [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► which is I I haven't really miss them [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► sleepy hollow really lots lost its way [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► this year which is too bad because i [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► really like the first yeah i like the [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► first season on [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► and I didn't like how they ended it seem [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► like that kind of rippled into the [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► entire second season and I didn't care [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► for it [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► Erica what do you have for us i kinda [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► wish Scott McNulty was here because he [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► sort of my the good wife buddy [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► oh yeah the other person that I know [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► that really watches that show which I [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► have to say I was kind of disappointed [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► with this season of it I I like [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► courtroom drama and this this season was [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► a lot more political drama and I don't [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► care for that quite as much so I was a [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► little little disappointing but it looks [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► like it might go back to the courtroom [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► next year so i'm i'm not giving up until [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► next season starts [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► somebody get disbarred or something but [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► no she was running for um she's running [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► for some sort of office and then of [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► course because you know you can't have [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► you can't have that because she's not [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► she's the lawyer by the end it all does [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► not work out in her favor and she has to [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► go back into practice and and the big [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► cliffhanger was Michael J Fox coming up [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► and saying would you like to me while my [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► partner and he's like he's a horrible [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► person so that nobody nobody wants that [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► except Dewey mmm yeah so I've got the [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► good wife and castle is the only other [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► thing I've watched but i don't really [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► have much to say about castle because [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► it's like i'll put it on when I'm eating [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► it's like my popcorn show disorder zone [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► out and just enjoy the the formula which [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► is exactly the same on every single [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► episode so but it's nice when they do [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► like funny ones and they do they they're [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► clever still I think you know they have [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► a surprising amount of gas looking to [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► take after this many seasons definitely [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► appreciate a show that doesn't take [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► itself too seriously and that is [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► absolutely castle they did not take [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► themselves too seriously they're they're [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► not afraid of a good pastiche and I [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► appreciate that I've never seen castle [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► but don't they really like doing [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► nathan fillion references to other [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► obvious LOL oh yeah yeah that's and I'm [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► good with it they know that these so [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► much of that show relies on the charm of [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► nathan fillion and they just as with [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► anything open Jillian yeah exactly like [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► well let's just let up do kinda like [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► whatever he wants to do really and it [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► seems like they let him work in jokes [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► are pretty much anything there so that's [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► always fun and and they throw in some [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► occasional like running continuity [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► things which are you know interesting [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► but this season was a little strange [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► that department they still had some good [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► episode so it's it's a solid show as I [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► learned from Scott and Anthony talking [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► on the unjustly maligned podcast [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► scotland ltd [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► episode there about murder she wrote [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► castle is basically murder he wrote [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► pretty quick actually really is which is [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► not doing nothing wrong with that is [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► that is Comfort television [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► yep David what about you what shows you [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► have for us well the only thing I [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► watched more than Game of Thrones this [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► year with CSI cyber cyber don't steal my [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► show david i'm going to talk about CSI [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► site now I was examining we talked about [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► all the superheroes shows so won't even [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► spend time on that but outside of the [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► hose I i watched Jane the Virgin [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► actually on tagged Goodman's [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► recommendation and fell in love with [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► that right show just delightful [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► I i enjoyed blackish and fresh off the [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► boat both on ABC both sitcoms both a [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► different take on family's it comes from [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► what we're seeing these days so I was [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► still watching Brooklyn nine-nine still [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► love Brooklyn nine-nine I love to the [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► parks and recreation finale and in case [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► in case there are people who haven't [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► seen it at all I will say is it ends [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► just perfectly really does spent the [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► entire season this entire season of it [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► was just the perfect absolutely from [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► start to finish i think they pretty much [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► nailed it like that is might be one of [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► the best last season's of television [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► I've ever seen and in just the the one [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► episode that's basically Amy Poehler and [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► nick offerman and that's it [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► yeah it was spectacular that might be [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► maybe my favorite episode of the whole [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► series might be the best [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► yeah I i have enjoyed iZombie has been [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► getting on a little bit [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► Rob Thomas Joe totally been meaning to [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► watch that but haven't yet so my god is [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► backed up we are well yeah no I mean I [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► am trying to think and they have been a [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► lot of new shows this year besides jane [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► the virgin and [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► and the superhero shows but one show [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► that surprised me this year and this [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► again this is one that I never would [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► have watched all you know just was like [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► oh it's another check Lori sitcom but [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► you know Todd vanderwerff and a whole [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► bunch of other TV critics said no no you [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► should give mom another chance [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► it's turned into a really good show wow [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► it's a solid sitcom i'm not going to say [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► it's the most brilliant thing on earth [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► but it allows the characters to be [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► serious and it deals with some pretty [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► intense addiction stories and relapses [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► and death and you know not you know it [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► did they don't know live in a fancy [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► house and they don't all have money and [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► then they don't have the perfect job and [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► it's not like what you're seeing on [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► network TV right now it's really [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► interesting [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► I mean Allison Janney come on she's [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► brilliant [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► so yeah it's that has surprised me it's [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► still not appointment television I'm [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► still not going out of my way to watch [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► it but when i come across it and we [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► leave it on [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► critics are raving I left and I left the [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► time I didn't turn away from blah but it [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► Brian what what shows did you bring for [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► us and I know you're primarily here [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► talking of Thrones but we should also [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► get your your input on television again [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► know the thing I watched the most this [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► season was Game of Thrones on my [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► favorite thing i watch this year was an [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► old show party down i binge the entire [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► it is sick [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► oh my god i'm not a fan of the like [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► awkward sitcom comedy things I feel like [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► the best evolution of it since the [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► original office was party down and it [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► was i'm amazed it's taken me this long [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► to see it [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► what else uhhhh another plug for [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► Brooklyn nine-nine my favorite currently [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► running show it's the second season is [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► flawless a shout to Bob's Burgers i [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► really enjoyed this fifth season the I [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► enjoy watching the show not really [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► knowing what it is in the first season [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► trying to replicate early simpsons with [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► some really raunchy jokes but as it [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► picked up with lots of little kids and [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► things like that [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► the show's really evolved and it's [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► starting to become [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► more zany more silly way more pop [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► culture references lots of just letting [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► the comedians that run the voice cast of [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► the show just kind of go off and [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► throwing whatever they want in the in [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► the dialogue and it's wonderful what [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► else i do want to give a shout out to a [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► mini series that aired last October on [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► cartoon network called over the garden [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► wall which is a brilliant little [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► 10-episode thing that they aired over [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► the course of a week [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► it takes maybe 90 minutes to watch the [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► entire thing in one sitting it is if [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► adventuretime met year walk for iOS it [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► is a beautifully animated heartbreaking [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► story about two young boys wandering the [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► woods running away from an evil beast [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► and it becomes it's more episodic than [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► that but it is a really beautiful [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► I I don't say avant-garde but it's very [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► unique and what it is it's almost like [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► it takes the adventure time [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► sensibilities and makes it scary Marlins [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► talk about this on a few other shows [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► it's my favorite thing from last year [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► and then this year was definitely a [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► Bob's Burgers and Brooklyn nine-nine [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► great choices [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► let's take a break i'm going to tell you [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► about our sponsor today it is my good [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► friend mail route you know who should be [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► handling your email e-mail nerds that's [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► the answer nerds is always the answer [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► email nerds who do nothing but email [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► they are focused on email that's what [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► they care about and that's mail route [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► these are the people who created the [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► first cloud-based email filtering [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► solution they sold that to Microsoft now [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► they're back with mail route the most [TS]

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00:14:49 ◼   ► filtering available imagine a world [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► without spam or viruses are bounced [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► email this is not a pipe dream [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► this is something that you can get by [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► using mail right you can open your email [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► and seemly see only the legitimate mail [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► that you want need to receive every day [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► this is great for overworked corporate [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► email administrators if you've got a [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► domain no matter who hosted mail route [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► can help a long-dead domain that's [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► overrun with spam that's not being used [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► you can write that off and say we can't [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► even use that domain because all that's [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► in there spammers the spammers got those [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► email addresses long ago [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► forget about it you don't have to forget [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► about it pointed mail route mail route [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► will remove all of that stuff [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► only the clean mail goes to that domain [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► you don't have to install and maintain [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► any hardware or software now received [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► your mail sorts it and delivers only [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► clean email to your mailboxes it's easy [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► to setup reliable trusted by large [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► institutions like universities and [TS]

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00:15:41 ◼   ► find mail routes user interface is [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► simple and effective if you're an email [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► administrator or IT professional they've [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► got all the tools with you in mind [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► there's an API for easy account [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► management they support ldap Active [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► Directory TLS male bagging outbound [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► relay everything that you'd want for the [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► people handling your mail nerds nerds is [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► the answer there are a bunch of emails [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► savant sitting around all they do is try [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► to figure out how to make your email as [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► trouble-free as possible to put the [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► nerds on the case remove spam from your [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► life for good go to mail route dotnet / [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► smell and you'll get a free trial and [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► ten percent off the lifetime of your [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► account mail route net / smell free [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► trial no reason not to try it and you [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► get ten percent off if you decide to [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► stick with it the lifetime of your [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► account thank you so much demand for [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► filtering all span out of my email and [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► for sponsoring me uncomfortable [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► John I have very little connection to [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► what is this season or whatever so I'm [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► just going to talk about shows that i [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► watched sure you'll tell me if it was [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► actually less all right all all judge [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► season or not season or not mad men [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► which has mentioned many times already i [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► pi really have always enjoyed that show [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► and I thought the ending of it was sort [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► of just right and also not satisfying to [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► most people and that like I i think a [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► lot of people wanted it to end how it [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► sounds like parks and rec and did like [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► oh you know and so our story is done and [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► it has come to a satisfying conclusion [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► when what madman is much more true to [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► the spirit of the show which is the [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► people in the show some of them have [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► changed since season one in ways of [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► minor and major but our hero don draper [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► and the general direction of you know [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► sort of humanity in the show like you [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► did [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► people don't change as much as you think [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► they do like the people who came to [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► status to sort of happier endings always [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► had that in him from the beginning of [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► season one and Don will always be done [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► always do the thing that Don does and [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► this season he just continued to do the [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► dog thing he did one more time one last [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► time and it is not a bow tied up on his [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► life it is a continuation of his life in [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► the fashion that it has been progressing [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► you know with with changes in two [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► different you know people get older [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► people move on [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► people get divorced people die [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► businesses dissolved but in the end he's [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► him he continues to be him and I think a [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► lot of people found that unsatisfying [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► like you know but didn't you learn [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► anything from this TV that I watched [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► like now he's still himself and he's [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► still doing what he does [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► I and he still has all his problems he [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► hasn't really solved his problems he's [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► living the life that Don Draper will [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► continue to live long after we stopped [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► watching on the show and i found that [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► you know sort of not satisfying from [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► like a story perspective of like now [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► you've tied everyone up and everyone [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► lands in the place you think they [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► deserve but in a realistic things like [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► it's not about deserve it's about this [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► is what this character that we've firmly [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► established over five seasons [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► this is what he's like and this is what [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► he's going to continue to be like and so [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► I give it props for bravery kind of in [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► the same way The Sopranos and anything I [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► really liked that a lot of people really [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► hated that was also true to it it's show [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► I I can't take the opposite view of the [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► finale which I loved but i think i think [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► he does actually change in the finale is [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► a change he just does something he [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► always does is it you know what I don't [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► know what but he's a he's at peace with [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► it and he's become a better version of [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► himself I mean he's broken before he [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► gets to that right it really added up [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► but has a hit bottom he's got into lots [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► of little dips then he comes out of it [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► and then he is re-energized for his work [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► in his life and his relationships and [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► then he descends again and then he comes [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► out of it and that like every time he [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► can't handle like oh I'm just making ads [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► for a living I'm not being true to [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► myself and that my relationships don't [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► work because I don't know how to love [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► that i have these needs and above all [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► but wait a second advertising is great [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► and I'm going to parlay my emotions into [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► making right ahead but oh it's all for [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► nothing like this is our he shows up and [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► down up and down and he just he goes [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► maybe goes down a little bit deeper and [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► he goes up a little bit higher but it's [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► just that the Don Draper roller coaster [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► well I think he's following the template [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► of his life yeah i mean that's that's [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► his coping mechanism [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► I think this time I mean it's it's [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► pretty clear that he's he's out there [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► for much longer than the show allows him [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► you know we just sort of see like I [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► don't know a minute at the end where [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► he's out at the ocean that he's doing [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► this he's doing that I i think it's [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► meant to be a much longer period of time [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► to think the oscillation is increasing [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► like whatever they did the time between [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► the dips is stretching out as he gets [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► older yeah yeah and and does he [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► completely changed i don't know i don't [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► think so but I think he's he's finally [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► reached the best version of Don Draper [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► that he can be yeah i think i think that [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► version of that 660 would be better [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► because i think the Ark's will [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► eventually go out to be longer and [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► longer and he'll use he'll either end on [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► a high or low but either way I'm glad [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► that it wasn't like and now all those [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► problems you saw him having for five [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► seasons are gone and he's coming for [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► them and he now has healthy [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► relationships and he has a family and [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► he's satisfied in his work that's not [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► gonna that's not gonna happen for him [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► yes then that was not gonna happen yeah [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► the one that I was a little bit [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► disappointed because I mean I just I [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► choose to believe that the p campbell [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► will make a disaster of his life [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► oh yeah but it seems like yeah let's go [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► off to wichita where we goin on our [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► private jet and we're back together like [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► that's got disaster written all over it [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► and my first thought was that was plane [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► crash [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► well not playing crash but like he's [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► gonna mess up in the way that he always [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► does [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► yeah he'll stick his foot in his mouth [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► and then someone else's mouth and yeah I [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► couldn't tell they were trying to say [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► hey Pete finally got it together and the [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► lesson of the show is nobody ever gets [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► it together and that's why I feel like [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► out you know Peggy and Joan and all like [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► they were always those people they were [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► just like but because of their [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► inexperience and the times in the [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► position they were in they had to claw [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► their way up to what they could have [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► always been you know to begin with right [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► now although i still think Peggy should [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► that should be it at I always found it [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► odd that Peggy did not spend more time [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► as far as where dwelling on her baby [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► that she gave away it seems like [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► something you would think about a lot [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► but it never came up in the show we [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► don't know what she's thinking we're not [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► inside her brain but it seemed it seemed [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► like the show didn't want to dwell on [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► that after season one [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► yeah and so what other shows up I'm [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► continue to watch orphan black and enjoy [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► I haven't even noticed I don't think the [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► season isn't over i think it is not as [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► good as it was but it still this is kind [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► of my castle orphan black is my castle [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► like all right you know i watch it it's [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► fun [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► our kind of silly I don't take it too [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► serious not you don't take it too [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► seriously the performances are still fun [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► i think the mythology of the show is [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► already a mess and was like all right [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► well it wasn't her it was a mess last [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► year so it's only just gotten workers [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► it's not getting better [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► house of cards also kind of I mean that [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► that's coming to a conclusion i assume [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► in the next season it's heading to her [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► like where can you really go after where [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► they are on the season [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► things are falling apart as predicted [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► they would the characters and [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► performances are still good the [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► political intrigue is so so I missed the [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► west wing gonna miss the pi miss me [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► being the age I was when the west wing [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► is on because i feel like every watch it [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► now would not like it as much [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► yes yes trust me on that no I i know i [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► said i would want rewatched it fairly [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► recently within the last year too and I [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► thought most would still held up pretty [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► good at all but anyway house of cards is [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► a poor substitute for that i'm looking [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► forward to orange is the new black you [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► know haven't seen it because i like that [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► show that shows a much more fun with [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► other ones listed girls had another [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► season also a show that is having [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► difficulty Reeve you know finding this [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► spirit that having season 1 but I still [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► watch it because it's interesting in the [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► episode is short and make me laugh and [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► finally I don't know if this was the [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► season and Sons of Anarchy to that end [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► yeah there's a seven-year i started sort [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► of hate watching it is like oh this is [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► silly show and I actually kind of got [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► into it in some of the you know middle [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► seasons may season to season 3 i'm like [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► you know this is kind of like especially [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► the one that ended with like a [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► successful caper by the people and you [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► know all the movie stuff with the main [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► character deciding what he's going to do [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► with his life early on and then they you [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► know that kind of found its footing as i [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► will show about a bunch of biker gangs [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► how they're finding their way and then [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► do it doesn't even care if I spoils of [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► America you shouldn't but doesn't spoil [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► her again at the end of the second to [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► last season when what's your name for [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► madmen get stabbed in the back of the [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► head with a fork [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► I said you know what eff this show and [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► then i watch the final season because [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► that's what you do now man and the final [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► season did not redeem it after that [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► that's when the show entirely lost me it [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► had built up to a point where they could [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► have had something that was in keeping [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► with with the story and the characters [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► and they went for the drama and the gore [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► and the over-the-top miss and the final [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► season is just nothing they could do it [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► they not that I really cared so much [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► about these characters but after that I [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► felt betrayed by the people who made the [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► show and just disgusted by the show in [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► general so i watch the pilot season it [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► was stupid and the ending who cares [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► don't bother watching sons of anarchy or [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► if you do stop before the second last [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► season [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► from what I've seen of sons of anarchy [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► Breaking Bad to the better job of doing [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► sons of anarchy that its last episodes [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► then sons of anarchy [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► don't even mention those who shows in [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► the same time yeah please not Sully the [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► name of breaking bed right anything else [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► that's very i forgot to shows [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► okay see this is why don't I am a [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► superhero shows because we did [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► California the whole thing about that [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► down okay we have their British that's [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► why I forgot them the third season of [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► Ripper Street which got resurrected by [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► amazon i believe is really really good [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► I enjoyed the first two seasons of that [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► Jerome Flynn who plays Braun on Game of [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► Thrones plays ate a detective which [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► what's it's a BBC series it's a BBC [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► america think I know it's one of those [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► weirdos that's like owned by various [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► people but like Amazon apparently rescue [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► because they were going to cancel it and [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► they return renewed it for like two more [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► seasons so it's going to go on for a [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► while [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► matthew macfadyen to who i also really [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► like and that's a good victorian-era [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► crime show and this season has a nice [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► sort of ongoing plot even as it delves [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► into you know one off things including [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► an episode that's like kind of like a [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► bottle episode that's pretty well done [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► is a mystery and then I've been watching [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► all of this is not new this season I've [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► been watching endeavor [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► which is the a prequel to the young [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► inspector morse basically an Oxford in [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► the nineteen sixties and it's it's a [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► it's one thing shows up on like a [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► masterpiece on like mystery or something [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► its but they're like hour-and-a-half [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► episodes but there's like only four [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► episodes in the season but it's fun it's [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► really well done it's just the guy who [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► plays the main characters is excellent [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► and shave Roger elements is Roger Allam [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► SE exaggerated asstastic he is so [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► good-looking detective detective [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► Inspector Thursday [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► yeah so I really like that show I've [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► only watched i think most of the first [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► season and I think it's on season two [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► right now or it's finished season two so [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► I i give that a big thumbs up as [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► something i started watching this was a [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► little over a year ago but true [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► detective season two is coming next week [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► or so season one kind of last year [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► really fantastic i'll have to say about [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► that cat was definitely no this isn't [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► right guys it was real I mean seasons [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► are all breaking down that was in the [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► summer so was it was been it's been a [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► year since we talked about this and true [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► detective premiered I think after we [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► talked about so you throw that in there [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► you're not going to lose any points if [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► you're also not going to give me points [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► because i'm not i don't have a lot to [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► add david took my mention of CSI cyber [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► as I've detailed on the TV talking [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► machine podcast CSI cyber the CSI stands [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► for cyber cyber investigation the second [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► cyber spelled with an S see the seam a [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► stand for CBS I'm not sure [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► anyway it's really statement stands for [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► synergy CSI cyber it's spectacularly [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► stupid show [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► watch it and laugh if you like it is I i [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► would suggest going to completing the [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► war or award for the dumbest show of the [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► season and I saw scorpion which is [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► really close which is also amazingly [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► done but so is this millions it down [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► yeah of all the shows that have been [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► mentioned the only show that hasn't come [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► up that I want to throw I want to throw [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► a little love is the what seventh and [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► presumably six no six then presumably [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► final season of community which which [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► school doubt on yahoo screen vibes like [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► watching and you know what [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► probably not their best season but maybe [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► their second-best season [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► way better than the last couple years [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► some really good stuff i was surprised I [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► was just worried that it was going to be [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► not that interesting and it actually [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► ended up being really quite good so if [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► you are a community fan and you haven't [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► sorted out on yahoo screen you should [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► because it was good and then everything [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► else I've got is just to agree with the [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► praise for Brooklyn nine-nine and Parks [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► and Rec finale Jane the Virgin really [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► good and then we talked about all a [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► couple episodes ago about all the [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► superhero shows that were that that are [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► good especially the flash so you should [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► check those out to more positive and [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► tell you about something that's not a [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► sponsor you all may know I left my long [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► time job or late last year and one of [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► the ways i am working and support my [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► family as an independent person is i'm [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► writing stuff I've my own website and [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► i'm also doing a bunch of different [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► podcasts including of course the [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► incomparable now the way I make money [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► from the incomparable is through [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► advertising and I also get to do some [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► nice things at the end of the year for [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► my panelists by bringing in money for [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► the uncomfortable and one of the ways [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► that we can sell good ads that actually [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► irrelevant to you is by doing a [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► demographic survey which we do a couple [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► of times a year using the ad network [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► that we use to sell ads on the [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► uncomfortable and its survey time so if [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► you could drop into the survey it would [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► help us out a lot [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► your pod survey dot-com / smell that's [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► pod survey p.o.d su are ve y dot com / [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► smell my last name take about five [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► minutes it's completely anonymous [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► the aggregate all the data and the whole [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► idea is just to provide good demographic [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► data so that we can find advertisers [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► that are matched to the uncomfortable [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► and you guys are awesome [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► so the more information we've got the [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► more advertisers can say oh those guys i [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► want to reach those guys and that help [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► support me and the show and when you [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► finish the the survey you actually get [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► entered in a monthly drawing to win a [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► hundred-dollar amazon gift card so [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► that's a little bonus anyway pod survey [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► dot-com / smell [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► thank you for helping me and the [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► incomparable find the best advertiser's [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► keep the show coming to you regularly [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► for free supporting the network as a [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► whole i really appreciated thank you [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► very much for listening [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► and thanks in advance for filling out [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► the surfing well let's move on now and [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► I'm gonna fire out the spoiler horn [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► we're going to be talking about [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► everything that happened in season 5 of [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► Game of Thrones so here comes the [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► spoiler horn [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► who yep wow that's just better in person [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► it's a spectacular longer it seems long [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► it always seems longer than any other [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► sure you it's always the same always the [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► same length so season 5 of game with [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► resin Brian and I have talked about it a [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► lot but but i have not talked about it [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► on on this podcast with Brian this is [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► true so where we could just do that now [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► but I wanted to get the take of the [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► people who haven't done many many [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► podcast about Game of Thrones this year [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► first so John and Erica and Dan GA you [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► would any of you like to talk about sort [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► of the the whole game thrones season as [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► a whole are already told John does his [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► opening statement as you have that was [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► just gonna say don't think Johnny ok [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► let's start [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► ok everybody first John I hope John has [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► something to say i love the net but [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► whatever [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► yeah I have a little bit so I've never [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► read the books i am the non book reader [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► in our game of thrones group here right [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► I and in the beginning I enjoyed that [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► because i didn't have the burden of [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► comparing it to the books i could just [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► enjoy it as a television show I didn't [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► care whether it was or was not following [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► the books this season based on my vague [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► awareness of the relation to the books [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► that I get through seeing people's [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► grumpy tweets about the show my [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► impression is that we have you there [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► caught up to the books or are starting [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► to deviate from the books or both and [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► even though i don't know or care [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► anything about the books i find that add [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► some kind of excitement to the show that [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► and then don't know i guess you can tell [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► me if I'm wrong but like that the show [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► is that they were like caught up to real [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► time are closed and the show is sort of [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► doing its own thing and doesn't care [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► about the books and it seems more [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► exciting to me even though i don't know [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► what happens in the books i guess maybe [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► it's exciting to me because now the [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► possibility of spoilers is mostly [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► removed but i like the idea of not [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► knowing what's going to come next and [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► knowing that no one knows what's to come [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► next and that sort of feeling permeated [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► the season for me and it is entirely [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► false ceiling a feeling i guess you can [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► tell me now and I'll be else going to [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► let me tell you are exactly right it [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► looked as the season went along like [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► they were just diverging entirely for [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► what's happening the books and it turns [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► out that's not what they were doing in [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► the last episode what what I discovered [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► as a reader [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► of these books is the divergence [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► throughout the year was basically [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► editing to streamline the story so that [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► they could land essentially every [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► character in the last episode at the [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► point where they are within a chapter of [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► of where they are at the end of the of [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► the most recently released book i would [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► say with one it with one major exception [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► I feel like which was hard home which I [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► felt like was actually something that [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► male-male well there's things that may [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► happen yet in future books to be [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► released [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► right exactly what all the characters [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► end up landing like exactly again and we [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► blow the spoiler here John get stabbed [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► by the members of the Nights Watch at [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► the end of that book that's his [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► cliffhanger searcy does the walk of [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► shame naked through the streets and a [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► and that that happens at the end of the [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► the most recently released book except [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► the area or areas thing happens earlier [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► the blindness are you it's her [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► cliffhanger from the previous book and [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► yet a lot of the story that happens [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► after it in the inn is sort of stuff [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► that they kind of pushed forward so they [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► move some stuff around there but I don't [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► think Tyrion was did he make it to Marie [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► Tyrians past again that's a case where [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► he had his story is actually gone past [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► the end of the book so well at this [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► point the whole show is either at the [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► end i would say with maybe you could [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► argue about already a little bit but but [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► even there I feel like she's she's so [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► close that essentially the show is often [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► is off the map for book readers now it's [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► either at the point where the book ended [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► or its past the point where the book and [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► we ok so we're all just I have no idea i [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► get time I got wildly significant right [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► now it's so good it's a wonder together [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► whether or not John snow is really dead [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► yeah what about bran and Rickon what [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► about and hold on that was last season [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► like that and that has bad they already [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► jumped ahead in that whenever he's in [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► their story last seasoning it was [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► literally their material from Dance with [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► Dragons the most recent book so they had [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► dad nothing to do so they just took them [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► off the stage for this season I think [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► that a couple of episodes they they [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► showed them like in the previously on [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► like are they gonna talk I've totally [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► expected them to come back at the end of [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► hannahs the season [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► but i guess they just had nothing more [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► to say about them and they were just [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► reminding you that they existed in the [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► previously i wanted to see now that the [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► gods would it a at Winterfell where [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► we're like beyond or science was out of [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► the trees and like the trees eyes open [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► it's like Who I you see you and it turns [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► out the better [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► that's a that's a brand from inside the [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► little his lake street people cave i can [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► come and save John right or I'll be [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► saved by the red lady what's her name [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► was on the Stanford she's that requires [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► a running that's already moved so that's [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► interesting because i was reading about [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► it and then they were like i was reading [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► recaps they reminded me that that [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► Melisandre and earlier met beric [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► Dondarrion who is also returned from the [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► dead a bunch of times which I totally [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► forgotten what I yeah that's like the [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► most seasoned CEO she meets to throw [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► some mirin beric Dondarrion and [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► yesterday when we watch that scene at [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► the ready hard has resurrected other [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► people before and she also has an [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► interesting interchange with Aria where [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► she's like you're basically going to [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► murder a lot of people surprise and i'll [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► see you again at some point so that's [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► still kinda hang in there on the other [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► hand like so i should resurrect him but [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► on the other hand dunno she just loves [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► that Kings blood and there's a whole [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► bunch of that there is gonna get a jar [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► Kings bastard blood but still she's been [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► known to eat some of that out from time [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► to time like yes you should run over [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► that resurrected just collect the blood [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► resurrect to collect the blood I don't [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► know as a fellow healthy supply of it [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► now with the wall so just grab that a [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► lot of blood [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► it's two months running off into the [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► snow i think yeah Erica what did you [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► think of this season as a whole [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► well I'm I'm kind of in between i'm not [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► actually a book reader although i tried [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► when I heard they were creating a show [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► of it i read i started reading books and [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► I just didn't like them slide thru the [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► first book and most of the second one [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► and eventually i just gave up because it [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► was while it was the great world [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► building and stuff i just didn't really [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► like any of the characters all that much [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► and it's just one bad thing after [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► another after another so it just it made [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► me feel not good so I quit reading it [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► but i thought i'd give the show a try [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► and there's just something about [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► watching actors breathe life into these [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► characters that made me enjoy it so much [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► more than the experience of reading the [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► books so i have i have stuck with a show [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► and enjoyed it [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► however as we have gotten through this [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► season it seems like that kind of sloggi [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► feeling from [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► i'm reading the books is rearing its [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► ugly head again a little bit because yes [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► there were some characters that I like [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► but many of them have died or made [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► choices that I just have to shake my [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► head at or just such horrible things are [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► happening to them that it has become [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► less fun for me to watch so i mean i'm [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► not i'm not giving up on the show but i [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► am a i'm enjoying it a little bit less [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► than i was before i agree i feel like [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► it's the worst of both worlds in that [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► horrible things are happening to these [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► characters and you should feel for them [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► but at this point where five seasons in [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► there almost archetypes we exactly know [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► what people are going to be doing and [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► why they're gonna be doing it it's very [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► rare that motives change like that so [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► there's kind of their doing stuff and [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► we're along with them and it gets so [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► bleak and so depressing that's [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► impossible watch the bleakness I [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► understand because I mean this is the [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► this is the middle of the story this is [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► the second act [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► they're about to get the that the [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► producers have said they want to finish [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► in two more seasons so you know this is [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► the dark this is the dark part that [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► least the empire strikes back is this is [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► this is it and and I is set at several [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► points this season it you know i'm [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► willing to go to these dark places with [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► them but they're sure as hell better be [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► an upswing at some point you know [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► because because why are we watching it [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► all it is is just everything's terrible [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► when everybody dies in the the White [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► Walkers kill everybody the end is right [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► at the end of the White Walkers so [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► everybody raise them all from the dead [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► and we just start all over again is it [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► and then it's a sitcom with white [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► walkers it becomes a comedy because all [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► the humans are laughing and it's the [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► White Walkers I got something to do all [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► day then just you know it's a [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► second-deck that the other thing that [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► that has sort of turned me off a little [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► bit is you know there are definitely [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► issues with the treatment of women [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► throughout the throughout the show and [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► you know some of its just a really [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► obvious stuff that you know i'm not a [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► fan of rape scenes never have been never [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► will be but the thing that actually i [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► think that that made me swear out loud [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► at the television was the the battle [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► scene with the White Walkers which I [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► wanted to enjoy because it was really [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► cool but they had the I don't remember [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► what her name was but the the woman who [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► was the elder of the wildly rise and I [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► was really excited at first because you [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► know he's like ok gather the elders and [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► we needed to go talk about this [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► and I thought it was a really cool sort [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► of cultural thing that the elders were [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► not actually old people with your [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► wildling it'sit's the elders are the [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► people who are the the wisest and the [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► people who are going to be able to leave [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► the best and i thought that was really [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► neat things like oh hey cool there's a [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► chick she's leading that's awesome [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► and then and then so then and then they [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► totally they just give me turn her [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► around to her motivations are completely [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► gendered and she's you know I have no [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► problem with maternal instincts i do [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► have a problem with the character who is [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► supposed to be this strong Wilding [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► character who has survived in the north [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► north of the wall this time who suddenly [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► can't kill a bunch of skeletons simply [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► because they are small and look [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► something like children yeah I was so [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► upset I almost didn't watch the next [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► episode if they were really cream you [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► have maternal instinct would have made [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► her kill them even more because she [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► needs to stay alive for her kids who she [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► just put on the boat that's the maternal [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► instinct is do whatever you can to stay [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► alive because your kids need you so the [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► advantages that doesn't with some really [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► was super lazy and on the other side of [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► the maternal instinct when I when what's [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► your name [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► Stannis's wife who has been very cold [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► towards the daughter for the entire [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► series so the daughter meets an untimely [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► end and they have the woman you know so [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► there's two ways this could have gone [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► you know she stays on filling the whole [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► time and that's in character for her [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► because she's been like that all time [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► she's a horrible person or she realizes [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► her mistake and I fully once they showed [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► that she was like oh I you know you [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► can't do this to my child I fully [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► expected her to jump onto the fire and [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► died with her as well and they didn't do [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► that they just kind of had a sort of [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► ineffectually be like vaguely regret [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► oh I right now i will say on the flip [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► side of that one of the one of the [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► things that i liked about the fallout [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► from that decision was that you know we [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► were watching the I think that we were [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► watching that scene [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► Jason and David and we were all like wow [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► like who keeps following the dude who [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► just like sacrifice his own daughter and [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► sure enough like everybody was like yeah [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► all right we're out there go two ways on [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► that but like you know that's the type [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► of thing you have people would leave and [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► the other half would be like this guy [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► serious like this thing I've used if you [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► believe in the silly Matt you know like [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► you believe in like the magic and the [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► whole thing like or you later okay if [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► this guy burns his daughter death what [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► you gonna do to me right are not not [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► that you [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► get out of fear but you really believe [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► that because effectively speaking he did [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► have she did have the big black thing [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► that killed readily right so it's not [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► like it's like you're believing this [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► with no reason but mostly people don't [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► know about that [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► well I know but he was victorious over [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► Emily because of this magic he's telling [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► you we need to do this for the magic [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► reason half the people like I'm out [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► whatever and around the other half are [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► like this guy's really gonna be king you [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► see how hardcore he is [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► turns out not so much but you know like [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► it is a reasonable belief belief for the [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► people who are following him that you're [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► showing what a monster you are and that [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► would make a certain kind of person [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► really believe that the same thing [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► standing waves it's his destiny and blah [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► blah but i I just I like there were [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► consequences from it is i guess my point [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► is like that there were a lot of people [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► because especially during that scene [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► when they do the the simulation seen [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► there there are lots of people kind of [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► looking at it you know they should cut [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► back to the soldiers who are looking [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► very uncomfortable for the most part and [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► so you know not they could have just [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► like all right great we burned her now [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► we've got the Lord light on her side now [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► we will you know rides victory and [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► instead it turned out that totally [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► backfired and I think that's it's [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► Stannis has been really really you know [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► he's lauded as this great tactician and [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► military commander and this is a major [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► misstep for him and you know to the [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► point that it appears to lead to his [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► demise [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► so i think it's it's interesting that [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► you know the sort of fall back on [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► you know the religious themes for him [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► end up not really working out his [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► favorite not only did he lose his entire [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► family loses battle he loses his army [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► and possibly lose his life possibly why [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► you think they left that open because it [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► seemed pretty shot domain if they could [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► shoot they enjoy it and they showing off [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► a lot of beheading demonstrate how did [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► they didn't show the daughter burning [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► either with a rare moment of tastes like [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► we wanted to focus on the reactions of [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► the people there and I think then that [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► in the status i agree with you it seems [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► very likely that brand new skills status [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► which is also a departure from the book [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► i believe but I i am not i would not be [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► surprised to find out that she has [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► spared him for some reason like I could [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► see a rationale for it [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► the show has burned that character [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► basically because the character had an [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► artist and is completed the arc [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► the audience hates him forever with good [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► reason he has no more friends he has no [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► more army his role in the storytelling [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► like now he's basically in the reek role [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► even Rican have some Redemption I [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► suppose but like yeah nobody nobody [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► likes tennis anymore [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► I think that's pretty conclusive when [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► you burn your daughter he have to do [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► with the steak though he spent his but [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► the season trying to not trying to avoid [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► it and in the end he had you know he did [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► he did it and he any anything [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► specifically we have for him is gone and [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► like he has a tragic character and like [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► I said he gave in to the red woman early [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► on and it paid off like it work exactly [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► like she said it was super powerful [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► magic is real big black scary thing [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► kills Renly like he was he was very [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► uncertain into being like I don't know [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► about this Lord light stuff and she's [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► whispering in his ear and i'm not sure [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► and blah blah it's like all right go [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► with it and it's like holy crap that [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► work like this you know he still [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► cautious about it was like this is this [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► is real stuff she's not just blowing [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► smoke right and then he made the same [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► decision reluctantly in this season and [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► it didn't work out [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► I'm not going to say that i have known [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► what was coming having not read all of [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► the books so I I've been surprised a [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► bunch of times by the show but i think [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► that this was the most surprising of all [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► of the plot twist because i really [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► really didn't expect expect statuses [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► downfall in this manner so I was kind of [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► like oh boy it was that was fun to watch [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► because if you go back to the red [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► wedding or even the purple wedding [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► Joffrey's death scene [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► you really don't like you expect it [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► because he spends so much time there you [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► know something's going to happen it's [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► rarely spend so much time in one [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► location during one episode but for [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► John's death we get literally what two [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► minutes at the very end of the final [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► episode of the season and it just [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► happens and were left there with John [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► dead and we don't know what to think but [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► we don't know if he's dead and that was [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► so Telegraph like this whole sales in [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► our life John is dead meat like you know [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► everything he does this season I'm [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► surprised he didn't die early like [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► everything he does is he is trying to [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► find some kind of middle way but all of [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► his allies just fade away and everyone [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► else who hates him gets closer and [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► closer and closer John is making big [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► picture decisions that are the right [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► ones button all the details of the [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► personal relationships and everything he [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► is getting you know hehe [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► he is a painting himself in a corner and [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► it's in it is inevitable that this is [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► gonna happen to him [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► I did not expect it all I was really [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► expecting after the white Walker rampage [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► and all that was really thinking that he [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► would have in the back he would survive [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► until the very end because he can come [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► back and say this is what's gonna happen [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► it is really bad we need need to pair up [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► with wildlings and take care of this [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► I was expecting that but that's what I [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► had Ollie they're like the office the [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► second only knocks on the door surely it [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► occurred to you that was a bit but I [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► like they I don't know if he's a [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► character in the book but having him be [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► like hey but what these specific [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► wildlings came to my village and killed [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► my parents in front of me [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► he's never gonna come around like you [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► know what I think you're right John we [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► should team up with new never gonna [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► happen right and he isn't proxy for all [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► these other nights while he tried to do [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► like the political thing of putting his [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► uh his competitor for the election in [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► charge and giving your position and [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► doing like it's just it's just [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► inevitable like everybody just left him [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► or died or left him and he is just there [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► with all the people who hate him and [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► like it's like that night like all right [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► everyone's gone nuts that were telling [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► him i'm only going to be one by one vote [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► right and that guy died and then and now [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► he's and then he sets out to to bring [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► the wildlings in which everybody hates [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► Andy and even though he's good reasons [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► they become I feel like that's the [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► overarching story of Game of Thrones in [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► a way is that there's a clear threat to [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► all humanity [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► it's coming but humanity cannot look up [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► to the horizon and see it because [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► they're too busy fighting amongst [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► themselves and that's the whole story i [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► really liked it as I think the AV club's [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► review of this episode point out that we [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► get trolled by the previously on we edge [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► which brings up engine starting over way [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► back for season but I saw that I [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► couldn't understand why they were [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► showing that preview but it again soon [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► as I knocked the doors like don't go [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► John [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► ya know you always coming from you knew [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► that would be like sucked up and AC in [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► the book is only on the biology LOL [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► doesn't exist as a character in the book [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► I don't quite understand why John [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► doesn't see it as he knows people are [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► against them eat right like i said [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► trying to you know I'm gonna put this [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► guy in charge even though he was against [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► me in elections [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► got to get on his good side and the [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► attention like is even open the gate and [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► let me in turns out he's going to you [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► know he's just hanging out and worrying [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► about things he should have been much [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► more on guard or just bailed and run [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► away or something like he had many other [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► outs but and I think you're saying Jason [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► like that he is making big the correct [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► big picture decisions i think a lot of [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► his doubt i believe a lot of his doubt [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► that like is he making the correct big [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► picture decisions like maybe you know [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► the whole Wild Things is a fantasy [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► because I talked about his army of White [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► Walkers as thousands upon thousands upon [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► thousands of what have the wild things [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► are going to help you there you is nice [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► that you gave them shelter and let them [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► through the wall it's a nice humane [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► thing to do but that's not going to say [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► well it means that they're not in the [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► army because when you're fighting the [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► army of the Dead anybody leave behind [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► becomes part of the army i know but like [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► the army of the Dead sounds like it's so [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► massively bigger than any other army [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► they have any way and that's all these [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► are the two overarching things I see in [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► the show is that winter is coming and [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► those dudes took a real long time to [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► walk down from the snow or finally [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► making some progress and the other thing [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► is Daenerys I feel like she's like the [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► main character in the show like she's [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► trying to return to the throne to rule [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► place and meanwhile that places is is [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► threatened by the White Walkers which [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► apparently the White Walkers don't hang [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► out on the other side of the world i [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► don't know i can't tell example to [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► hostile land the land only extends north [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► in Westeros there so let's talk about [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► generic a little bit I felt like I felt [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► like her story was a lot of the [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► especially the first part of the season [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► a lot of rerun from previous seasons [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► where I felt like she was just kind of [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► on hold books feel like to be well yeah [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► I know there's a lot of time in the [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► books like oh it's the it's the [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► governing like this is boring is where [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► should really have added governing and [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► she's not a quick study just weird [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► genius bar thing where people come to [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► her and ask her for help directly it's [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► like she needs something more than that [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► but we've mixed in a whole bunch of [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► different characters there because now [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► we have Jorah Mormont back in the [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► picture we have grey worm we have miss [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► andy we have Tyrion we now have Ferris [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► as of the end of the episode who I [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► thought for a minute i had a brief [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► minute where I'm like is various a like [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► is Tyrion imagining veras here generally [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► up and about [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► been very kind of like you can like [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► we're gonna get that cut back and it [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► turns out he's just talking to himself [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► like I have thought that was how that [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► was gonna go they'll replay all the [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► scene the various presenting you realize [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► he was never there and no one else ever [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► talk to him except for Tyrion no that's [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► not true but it wasn't excited about [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► this as a season finale is because for [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► the rest of the time until the next [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► season comes along in my head I could [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► just pretend that the next season is [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► going to be 10 episodes of various [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► interior just chatting because I would [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► be completely happy with that it is [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► pretty great [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► I I mean Tyrion so here's here's [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► actually i think that one of the most [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► important things that happened this [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► season and the show is they put [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► characters together they cross they [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► crossed over the storylines scenarios [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► has been operating in a vacuum other [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► than I like barest and showed up and [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► after leaving King's Landing but this [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► year we get Tyrion interacting with [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► generis the story is starting to [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► converge at last because honestly [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► Denarius story has been almost entirely [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► in a vacuum this whole time so it was [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► nice to see that finally kind of come [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► together where we got to see we got to [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► see her interacting with Tyrion that was [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► just so there's some beautiful scenes [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► yeah I think I think i'ii I've never [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► been a big fan of genera storyline in [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► most of the books and so it because it's [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► so isolated [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► you know I'd always be I would get to [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► those chapters and be like oh man let's [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► go back to like what's happening with [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► the politics in this other place like [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► why am i carrying about this city you [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► know halfway across the world where it [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► doesn't seem to have any impact on like [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► the rest of these characters and so it's [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► nice that they have jumped to a point [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► now where this is there tying up those [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► in those knots and saying like all right [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► this is this is going to have an impact [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► on sort of our main overarching story [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► here rather than being isolated its own [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► little pocket across the sea so and and [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► you know those are it's nice to see [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► Tyrion doing something other than being [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► locked in a box always a plus although i [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► do enjoy all his scenes with Jorah this [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► season we're in a boat he talks a lot [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► great because you put Tyrion together [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► with anybody and I'm a happy camper [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► it's winter material in a boat show [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► could be a show [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► he's in a box for a while then he's in a [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► boat many doctors boat is not [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► great boat to be on i would think he's [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► so competent as a night why is he such a [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► bad boat driver person takes things [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► right is terrible boats he's not great [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► at both John you put all those points in [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► nineteen didn't put any point in having [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► that's right on the other character who [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► took a misstep the season with Cersei [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► has been so cutthroat into so savvy why [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► in the world would she cc'd power like [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► she had her son essentially in the palm [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► of her hand made sure that she maintain [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that position with her son by you know [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► dealing with the wife situation there [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► why in the world would she risk it all [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► to bring in these religious guys and [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► basically give them power over the the [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► King Power over the throne i see i don't [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► agree with that because I think it's a [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► misstep like I think it's not it's not [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► her giving up power she's not realizing [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► what she's so savvy she doesn't realize [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► that but but she's taking a risk because [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► she's been marginalized right she's been [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► she's she's been pushed aside she's the [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► she's not the Queen anymore she's [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► essentially between mother and a small [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► council she's tried to form it in her [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► fashion but incomes uncle Kevan [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► Lannister and he's going to do things [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► his way and and when she she's playing a [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► game by thinking that she can manipulate [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► the highest that the sparrows and use [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► that to her advantage because she's [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► feeling weak at that moment but [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► interview their feelings into account [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► yeah yeah but like but the thing is that [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► she could get rid she could get rid of [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► the wife or marginalized the wife [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► without like the whole play is how can [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► you make the King do anything you need [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► to set up a situation where the Queen [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► someone can tell the Queen what to do [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► someone can condemn the Queen for [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► something or whatever so by setting that [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► up you have to create something that is [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► more powerful than the king and the [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► Queen and that thing is by definition a [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► threat to you whether you can control it [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► or not whether the high Sparrow is is [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► noble has good intentions to describe [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► doesn't matter like it's not a sir see [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► movie feel like she would never do that [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► she would find some other way even if [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► it's like poison lipstick if you want to [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► go that far [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► like there are so many other there's so [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► many ways to get rid of troublesome life [TS]