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00:01:03   welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/63">TS</a>]

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00:15:06   is this the themes in the opening scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09   repeated throughout the entire movie in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/909">TS</a>]

00:15:10   a way that I think people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   familiar with the movie take for granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   and even myself like I mean I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   this movie a million times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/917">TS</a>]

00:15:18   rewatching it again twice for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/918">TS</a>]

00:15:19   podcast the two times I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   imminent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   I'm struck by how I didn't have things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   that for granted to come back to me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   fresh but one of the things I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   thought about this movie is the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   you mentioned the boobs earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31   beginning and at the end but really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34   in the middle there's a long boobless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/934">TS</a>]

00:15:37   stretch here at boobs are staple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   anime they're there they're bouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42   they're going to be in the movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   most of the time they're in anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   they're going to be there for you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47   the expected reasons because it targeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   at hot men and they like to see boobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   fanservice you know that is the usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/952">TS</a>]

00:15:56   reason you see naked women or scantily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59   clad women or whatever in anime and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   movie opens with the scene with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   major on top of the building eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   she swoops down the building shoots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   through a wall and kill somebody or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10   whatever but as part of that sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11   she takes off our clothes and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   like oh here we go again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   roll like dude you gotta have your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   feminine hero even if she is a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/977">TS</a>]

00:16:21   secret agent type person or if she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   cyborg course she's gonna take off her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/983">TS</a>]

00:16:24   clothes and wear skimpy outfits like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   it's just you have to do it right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   even before they get to that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   one of the first exchanges and the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   is there talking to her over the headset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   and this is some static in your brain or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   whatever and she says it's that time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   month same type of thing you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   of another eye roll like these women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/998">TS</a>]

00:16:42   their time of month right and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45   to be your typical sort of sexist anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:48   fair but all that stuff is done type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   whether it's done with the purpose movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   or i'm projecting onto the people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   really truly want to believe that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   were doing this consciously I and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   just for the reasons at that we expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   them to do it because hey we got to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   a naked one we're gonna have around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05   cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   we're gonna have her stay here time bunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   I really have to think we and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   borne out i think but a television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   series being an intelligent the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   being very interesting and complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   this is done with the purpose that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   counter to the normal purpose why she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   saying it's that time about it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20   just start the movie you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   you have no context for that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   it's just a silly joke a woman's expense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   as the movie goes on you realize she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   no time of month she's a full side bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   is full conversion cyborg that then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   becomes like okay we're just making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   joke but it's kind of like a sex joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   right so why she naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   well there you know there's an inn story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   reason for that is negative because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   that's how her thermoptic camouflage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   work so how convenient your camouflage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   only works when you're completely naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   right which you said you you made an in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   story reason to get your heroine naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   immediately there's gotta be some hurts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   that you think but the other reason is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:52   that it throughout the entire movie the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   major is naked frequently and I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   there is an in-store reason for that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   well and has to do with the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   challenging the people around her to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   her as anything other than a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   she's like daring them to say bitches do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:10   you look at me as a machine or am I a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:13   woman I and her nakedness in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   this first scene is you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   expecting the audience looking at always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   it's a naked woman and isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   exciting a naked woman shooting people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   right exciting and titillating right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26   as the movie goes on you realize is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   a naked woman or is it a machine shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   like a woman that needs to be in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   configuration for camouflage purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   the major is sort of spiritual struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   throughout this entire thing with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   know her ghost and everything is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   does what is her conception of herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   mystery woman or is she a machine and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   guess the theme by keeping her over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46   head with this movie but every part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   the movie is challenging everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   around her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   this character in the movie and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:52   audience to revisit that question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   because it's so easy to slip back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   thinking you're just watching an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:57   animated movie of a woman and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   know how many times you have to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   this movie to start looking from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   angle but it always seems obvious to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   that her nakedness throughout this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   and in the credits sequence which starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   with something that looks like a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   and ends with something looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11   woman challenging you to say we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   showed you the steps it starts with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:14   bunch of metal and ends with a woman why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   you're looking at that as a woman you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:17   just saw how we built that we built it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   out of metal right we showed you how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   movies are made now how do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   I don't know if anyone else got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   from that sequencer you just looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:25   it with an eye roll instead of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   women i think that this movie does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28   really good job of sort of having it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   both ways because you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   absolutely right that's the staple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   animes is to have the boobs the pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   girls and stuff like that and I I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38   looked at it very much the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:39   you did John in that you know she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:43   this creature who is you know one either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   one thing or the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   maybe both we don't know and she she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   chosen this form and that was the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   that I kept coming back to throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   both the movie and the TV show where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   everyone will get a really sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   gratuitous shot and I think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   happened probably more in the TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   that that you know it would just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:04   take me right out of it for a second and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05   then I'd be like wait a minute this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   all complete artifice I mean this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   just the pretty girl using her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11   prettiness to to distract the bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14   this is a person choosing this shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   that is you know has ABS you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   it doesn't look like heard about maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:21   she wasn't even female to start with we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   don't know and and I find it fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   to kind of like take a step back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   think about it from that from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   perspective so I I maybe it's also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   me perspective projecting because i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   to think that they did this on purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36   but i think that it was it was just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   of an artfully done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   way to include all of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   you need to have a successful film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   especially in 1995 but to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:48   commentary on that for you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   subtle way for the people who are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   to recognize it as such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   yeah I think they're taking the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:55   standard tropes that we would expect in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   that and subverting them basically yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00   the contrast between to tell I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   you're totally right the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   series says okay we're gonna have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   underwear upskirt shots like we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   we're just gonna do it right they ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   out of subversion for the team right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   you should see the output she was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:12   later seasons like it's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   they're gonna have that but i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15   movie plays it straight pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   entirely like every seen it there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20   there's an inn story explanation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21   thematic explanation of why is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   character doing this and it not that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   my notes are about making this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   helped a lot of them are like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   going so in the scene when she wakes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   in our department not another iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   scene in the movie she gets up he opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   a window she gets out of bed walks gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   on our jacket and walks out of the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39   that scene you know waking up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:43   it didn't have a shower sequence which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   if you've seen a lot of anime is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46   surprising how you had a woman wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   and you didn't show me take her taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   shower how how did she get clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   more she doesn't get clean she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   need to hurt a little bit we see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   right you know she doesn't mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   what she does that's all anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   different movie and she should they show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:02   her waking up without cutting away she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   walks into another room she walks back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   out with her jacket on she's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   that's her morning routine she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   need to do anything else is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   say she's not human to get it cuz you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:14   got to focus on the human a point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   made that he is not cybernetic that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   wanted him on the squad because he isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   cybernetic muon different point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   eventually you have her driving with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   hands talking about her mouth moving all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   staples of this universe but surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   to begin with when she fights that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   that the guy they're chasing around she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   fights some of the big pool of water or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   whatever at the end of that scene she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   standing over him having knocked him out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   she's completely naked bateau is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   with her and he's looking at the gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   saying you're using the wrong ammunition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   for this gun you're running the muscle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   which is in character for him but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   doesn't care that she's naked behind him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   and you know it's like again her being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   naked is partly for the camouflage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   why why she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   just standing there completely naked she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55   could get her clothes back on but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56   like would say he he actually there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   scene right after that where he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1378">TS</a>]

00:22:59   cover her i'm now that's what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:00   saying so I think he does care she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   certainly doesn't write somebody that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   all think that's the interaction between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   the two of them she is daring him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   view her as anything other than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:09   machine and during the combat he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   intentionally looking at the gun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   saying okay well i'm i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   during working times you know i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   going to do that but then he does come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   over and put a jack why you putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   job it's like putting a jacket over your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   motorcycle you know what I mean like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   in one respect for the other respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   that shows it like there's a romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   tension between these two characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:29   movies very subtle sort of crouching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:30   tiger hidden dragon kind of unrequited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   tip of the tension is there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   they're both machines right so how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   these to dance around the fact that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39   have these feelings for each other but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40   they're both full conversion cyborgs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   treat each other like coworkers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   but at a certain point he still because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46   they were once human rights still feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   compelled to put the jacket over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:49   happens multiple times where it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   she's being treated as a person at other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   points you've been treated like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   passenger in a woman shape tank one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   my favorite scenes in the entire movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   if not my favorite scene is when she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   diving and she and she sinks to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:08   bottom that's mine too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:09   I i really enjoy that because that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12   is the movie saying she's not human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:15   she sinks to the bottom I i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   that and then she comes back out and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   the conversation and that that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   that scene is entirely about what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:26   means to be human or not human because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   he's asking why do you even do this at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:33   and and especially since you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35   float like a human being you have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:38   kind of assistance to float i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:42   is a fascinating scene and she's wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   she's wearing clothes in that scene john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   but it is the same themes exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   same as the same challenge though I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   that CD she's wearing clothes but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   the check them off it when she gets back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   about right and and he and he averts his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   eyes when she's getting address he turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   his back why you turning your back now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   but you weren't then you didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   different context but their challenge at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02   that point is this is what are you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03   to do if the floaty things stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04   working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   any and and she goes would you dive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   after me like a challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   would you know well do you love me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   not like what you're diving after me no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   one forced you to come right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   like am I person or thing it's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:16   constant challenging of bat-toad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19   specifically about the nature of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   relationship and the nature of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   being and they're both being converted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:24   cyborgs and i think the the contrast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   this is much better in the movie than in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   the television series with television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29   series all the conventional in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31   that's always got you no artificial eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:34   that don't look like eyes look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35   little silver discs but his little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   silver circles are much more expressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40   in human than her big giant beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   eyes because her big giant beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   eyes my doll's eyes right they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   completely inhuman whereas the express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   the expressiveness of his tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50   gray circles are so much greater really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   mean that it's it's a it's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   intentional it's a fairly good feat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   subtle animation technique to show her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   to show her sort of sidebar bodies being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:03   somehow more inhuman them back toes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   though they're both full conversions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   it's highlighting that the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:11   between two of them which they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   speak a lot of lines that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13   lessons together is very subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   especially in the end the Hollywood sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18   of pantheon of these type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   relationships where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   this is something they don't hit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   over the head with i can imagine lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:23   people got into anime watch home movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:24   and did not understand the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   between these two at all that scene is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   actually that's also my favorite scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   it's just indelibly etched in my memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   from the very first time i watched this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   movie back in like 1996-97 whenever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   got it for the first time and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40   i mean it is kind of a sledgehammer he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   seen you know we're talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   themes that this movie has because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45   is I think the most blatant that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   it's sort of stated talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   whether you know is she human or not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   know her her speech about if they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   called to duty she can metabolize all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   the alcohol in her system within 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57   seconds or whatever it is but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   it's it is so poets the most poetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   sledgehammer that I've ever been hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   over the head with so it doesn't bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   yeah I have the CNMI notes as well for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:07   one specific reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   the a particular part of this scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   where she comes up from the surface with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   her little floaty things and looks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17   the sky through her goggles with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   water droplets on them as the clouds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20   drift by that particular moment is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:24   of what if I had to like you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   of file anime away and my brain under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   particular thing that particular moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   is my my defining characteristic of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   the enemy that I love it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   basically a recurring motif and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   my favorite anime and probably in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   Japanese culture in general as far as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39   can tell duelling on the fine details of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   sensory experiences particularly those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   involving the interaction between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:46   man weird world in the natural there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   moments like that in a lot of anime a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:51   lot of my favorite anime a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   examples I I thought over the notes over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   like at the beginning kiki's delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   service where she's sitting on the hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:57   with the wind blowing the radio playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   they dwell on that because it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02   century experience that we can relate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   i don't think you ever ever been scuba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   diving or gun diving with a mask or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   anything that that thing of looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:10   through a mask with water droplet time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   to the rest of the world and feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13   like you are inside but you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   outside like you're looking through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   window out onto the rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:17   that's a real feeling that I've had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   they captured in this movie in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   whispered the hard they showed the slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   start of a rainstorm on on a city they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   do on that for a long time if you watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   anything by makoto shinkai the sounds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   the summer insects are like a theme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   his movies because obviously something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34   had a big influence on him those type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37   scenes like what what makes anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   different than regular movies and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39   would say aside from all the animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   and the ninjas in the robots and boobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   it's the table in any one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   movies even with ninjas robots and boobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   they will put a scene like this where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   you're looking through the lens of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   thing with with the water droplets on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   that will resonate with at least with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   at a deeper level then I mean maybe how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   people feel when they watch terrence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   malick things are like other you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   live-action directors of quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   serious movies the japanese animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   always speaks to me because every movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   will have some small scene like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   when one of them hits home that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:11   hits home and it just adds a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   layer to a movie that involves cyborgs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   and tanks but watching a movie I'll and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   perhaps I was meant to feel this way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   I was really confused about what her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   what the majors story was whether she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   was and yeah again this is the theme but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   whether she was once human or always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   synthetic and i don't know if i missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   that or what but I had this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   question of like I don't even know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   her deal is is she a robot is she a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39   person part robot she seems entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:43   sympathetic and yet there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:44   question of did she start out as a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   being or not and i think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   setting of the story suggests that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   is what's been happening to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   everybody has this opportunity to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   mostly or entirely sympathetic but I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   was one of those things that confused me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   like I didn't I I wasn't sure whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   was meant to be a question or whether i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   just totally missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   you must go get answered but but only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   kind of in very briefly in passing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:11   mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:11   there's that scene in the elevator we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:14   seeing back to have another kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   know chat and you know she kind of she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   is asking that question you know out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   loud kind of to the audience and bateau [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23   cuz i guess kind of plays the role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   storyteller but it's just taking it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   that they're there is it there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   small organic part of you that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   the human part of you so you know as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32   as we know she is she's originally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   human we don't really get her backstory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   here or in all 26 episodes that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:40   watched over eventually should do we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   a little be explicitly stated ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   attending that the elevator seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   he's basically says that it does this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   the way Jason is another staple of anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   they will be a complicated setting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   premise and it will not be explained to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   you and it goes to the shell that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   television series and movies are perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   the most egregious because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00   incredibly complicated machinations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   like the the political political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   intrigue in the end that the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   history how many wars have been what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   countries are there the democracy of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:10   dictatorships who is how does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   government were like they don't tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   anything just expected to figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   and takes like it's it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   take your tailor soldier spy ER Syria or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   any other movies you have to watch nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   times to get all the details like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   that is a stable that's why this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   or two because it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   the dense but they did this movie to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   say she's got a flesh-and-blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   blood-brain and later in the series the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   television series emphasize the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   like it there's one part of you that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   you it is your brain which is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   pretty solid foundation for that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   the case and it's a flesh-and-blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   thing and it's enhancing cybernetic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   so on and so forth but basically if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43   someone squishes that brain part you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   dead and you're gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   yeah and they actually in the TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:47   they also did deal with the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   she had to become fully converted much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   younger than perhaps that she just then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   it's recommended so that's part of part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   of her backstory and why she struggles a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   little bit and the credit sequence did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   you watch the credits sequence to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:01   television show Jason I watched both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:04   yes yes i do you remember the part where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   she she's is having a dream i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09   where she's holding a doll and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   cybernetic hand but she can't control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   her cybernetic and it destroys the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:15   dollars the doll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:15   no yeah that that is these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   underpinnings of write their backstories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20   review i forget if it's into season one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:21   or season to it and moves on but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   did she was converted very young and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:26   that she had to learn to control these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:27   cybernetic bodies and that it took some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   getting any of the shows like how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   become the major how does someone become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   this person well she's very elevated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   alienated growing up she didn't grow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   like a regular person I and has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   felt like I had identity issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   Who am I am I person am I machine how am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   i different than everybody else that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   know am i worthy of love how do i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   some identity outside of the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   bodies that I can inhabit you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   the rest of the themes of the movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:55   don't want to put too much but I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   can you help us look at two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   openings of of the TV series there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   like the original opening and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:03   replacement opening and one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   like in the animation style and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   other one is like CGI yeah that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   something I I personally really enjoy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   like remixes of songs that I like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   like the idea that you know opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:16   sequences of anime series are in and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   big thing and an anime TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   specifically that a lot of the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   can eat you'll see an opening sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   you know 30 second song and a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   animation it's clear they spend more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   money in that opening sequence than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   first three episodes combined based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   the animation quality so there was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   of love and care into those sequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   they're an important part of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:37   having one of those and then having them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:38   redo it a cgi is it i is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   contrast because i like the idea of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   we'd be this beautiful hand-drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:44   animation can we do it in CGI what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   it look worse does it look better is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   possible to capture what was good about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   the other one and in this example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   think the hand-drawn one is way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   than the cgi want yeah it shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   limits of CGI the time but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   interesting to see them try I'll it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   be perhaps less interesting and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:01   depressing to see them try to do a live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   action version of this with scarlett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   johansson but that idea of like take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   this thing now do it this way now do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   that way now do with one hand tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   behind your back no to all black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   white now doing a hand-drawn animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   outdoors claim now do it is interpretive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   dance like i like the idea of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19   this particular series when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:20   watching it had this conversion where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   you're like the opening they were used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   to always have appeared in cg like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   is going on someone think this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26   good idea but it's still very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   interesting to me yeah I didn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   cgi at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32   I mean it and I like CGI and all but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35   it different doesn't match the show ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   and second I felt like I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38   understood the way that she's portrayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   the way the major is portrayed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42   show in animation like I i can quibble i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:47   like that i like the purple and stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   think that's really need I can i I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   her outfit is ridiculous they ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:55   teacher assistants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56   yeah what about this one saying is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:57   mean ma I read superhero comics I I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   ridiculous outfits when I see it and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   in the in the movie it's not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   it's not to this extreme that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   show but but anyway she is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   character I don't know there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   about that character you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13   you're you're seeing a portrayal of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:16   very specific character and the cgi is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   it feels like it's just a generic even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   though it's the same clothes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   same everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24   it's like it just kind of a generic cgi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   figure of a woman instead of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   character like the animations it softens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31   all the interesting edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   yeah well yeah they're all soft and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   kind of literally it's committed to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   doesn't even read as a press the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   person it just reads like maybe like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   cosplayer or something because they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   know i mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:43   the worst is like the very end sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:44   which is grimacing shooting a gun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:47   grimace when she shoots somebody that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48   not that's ridiculous red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   itachi comes come off a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   better but anyway I i like the remakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   aspect of that I think we can wrap up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57   the movie with just the ending sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58   which again we're going to take the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59   themes and keep throwing them in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   face and so you can until they they land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   home at one point the big tank at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:06   end i believe shoots up a giant tree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:09   life type thing like that you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   of evolutionary ladder type create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   forget what's written on it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   humans are the top is that but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15   shoots up yeah it comes just short of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   just short of shooting up here yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   you're getting it folks you know thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   not not subtle at all but it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   fast enough and i think the words you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   in Latin so it's a little bit better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   the city the ending the ending bit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   is very kind of like I don't say Kira [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   ask or whatever but I think with again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33   with a different person purpose where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   she's going in the the one-woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   wrecking crew to take out this tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   she has a plan to execute your plan she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   gets on top of the tank is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43   tear the lid off the tank to get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   fleshy bits on the inside and defeat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   tank and that lid just doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   come off and she took keep rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52   she keeps pulling until basically her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   arms get torn off and this this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:58   thing that my loves to do where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   will show what looks like a vulnerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   human person usually a woman using an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   attractive woman grievously injured in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   some way is subverted here by her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   seriously injuring herself as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:12   the plan that she's executing in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   way that you realize that this is not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   much someone being injured but it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:20   like driving a car really hard like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   the hero of your story that he steals a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:25   car and drives that car until it's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   she just did that but with her own body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   because she's essentially driving that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   body as the pilot more than it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:34   know a that is herself or whatever then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   of course you've got the big black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37   helicopters with their the Angel of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   Death helicopters with their wings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   unfurling lots of great Mecca design in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   this thing and snipers with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   synchronized breathing apparatus to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:47   shoot her through the head and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48   everything again they're aiming for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49   head because that's the only way you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:50   kill you you shoot another part doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   do anything you got backhoe once again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   putting the jacket over her when she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   diving into the project 2501 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   you just need to cover over the jackets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   the machine but at that point he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   thinking of her as a human and covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   are up you get your head blown clean off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07   in that scene but she's fine because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   they didn't actually squish the brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10   brain park and then the for the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   thing that's really making your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   comfort or the end they got her in are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:18   replanted in a little girl's body which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   community looks like a little girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22   version of the major which is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   touch and I'm saying that you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   do you want to add to the black market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26   this is all I could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   yeah and that just spins out her like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:29   why would little girl cyborgs be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32   available on the black market and how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33   you feel about that and now that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   in a little girl body has but to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   about her and have to revisit all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   feelings that they had before how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   feel about the feelings they had before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   it's almost like when you find out later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43   was look sister but even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   yeah I like I am I I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   interesting the the end is is a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   head-scratcher where they're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:52   know moving to a different bodies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   the two bodies of their and there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55   puppet master and they're moving around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   all that but i did i did like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   that i'm somewhere i think the wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   page says that that the whole idea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   that she's she's supposed to be supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   to look like standardly standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   available you know parts but even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   she's got special stuff on the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   and I like taking that to the extreme at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   the end was like you know this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:17   could get this is what you get to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   get to be the little girl now sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   yeah well but but she says you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:24   not her anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   at this point because i was with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   puppet master so it's a new creature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   that's been created that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   something new in the world that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   one problem with the movie is that it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   wanted to have an arc that ended with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   the sort of merging everything but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   movie is going towards is like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   we're going to confront you with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:41   these questions about what it means to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:42   be a living thing or something worthy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:47   love or what does that even mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   and they're going to keep pushing until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   by the end of the movie you're like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   yet getting back to jason's thing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   if she was shooting what if she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:56   never alive does that change how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   view her what if she is combined with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   AI that you know that she's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   made it with AI is she now less worthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05   of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06   of being treated as a person than she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   was before what if something was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   human-like that's that's where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   going in the movie ends and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   continue off in that direction but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:14   TV series and most of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   spin off the universe rewind and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   let's go back to the beginning of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   thing because they don't they don't try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   to continue on that good matrix style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   where you get the end of the movie he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23   jumps off from the phone booth then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   say let's go see where that goes like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26   no we have we have this whole world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   let's explore different stories for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   net world without immediately jumping to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   humans are useless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   I destroy and Destroy All Humans about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   humility and let the machines take over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   which with which you know you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   this universe going towards but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   not the story they want to tell well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   what do you guys think of the movie so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   i was really confused by parts and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   felt like parts of it i didn't i say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   wanted me to be confused about and parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:51   of it I thought it just didn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   make me confused about and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:56   what's with all the numbers this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   thing that really drove me crazy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   second second second we got section nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   and we got project 2501 and we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   to a virtually all of the numbers drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   me crazy because I i don't know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:10   this is just my relationship with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   numbers but if it had been like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   defense division and the secret division [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   or something like that I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   understood it but it's like instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   everything is section 9 section 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22   project 2501 it feels super x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25   positioning and of course you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   are there are are just endless streams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   of dialogue there's a very funny part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   where there's a lot of dialogue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   everybody's head the head of the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   who's saying it is cut off in the shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   so they don't need to animate them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   talking pages download dialogue lots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:43   lots of dialogue about the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   and this in this section is doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:46   and this is over here and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48   those moments where I thought this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   are they trying to make a wash over me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:54   to the point where I just don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   care anymore or would this have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   better off just being more oblique like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   I would almost rather had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:01   completely confusing then have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:04   like here's an enormous download of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:07   these things that are similarly named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   that you don't really understand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   that have relationships to one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   and that's like so that is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   staple of anime and if you think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   numbers are problem if you can watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:20   more the television series you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:21   realize that naming of the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   factions and when splinter groups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   parts like it's just as bad it's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   worse when they have names because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:29   least the numbers you know don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   any translation they just throw it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   you like an object 2501 like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   I mean something the chatroom someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:37   mentions like mi5 and mi6 like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   starting point you get used to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:40   number you're all so confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   yeah the world is confusing Jason the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45   cyberpunk world is more confusing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   project black eagle or something i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   like 'ooh project black eagle what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   it mean project 2501 it's like project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   string of numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   oh and there's another project of sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   of different numbers who tell me more i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   mean i know that didn't they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00   yeah they do they do throw stuff at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   they don't want to explain it and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   many times it's easy to think that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07   is no explanation that it is just mumbo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08   jumbo that it's like the star trek talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   where you just throw a bunch of words in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   there it's just science fiction word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   salad and you know suffice it to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   don't like them crystals let's move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:17   but there usually is an actual story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:21   surrounding these things I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   what makes them want to just throw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:24   like why do we need those details is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:27   like do you want me to have to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   wikipedia page and look for the help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   this stuff is but like if you watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   nine hundred times eventually you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34   connect all the dots and it starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   make sense but I don't know what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:37   in Japanese animation that makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   want to do these incredibly dense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   deep backstories to tell what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   otherwise a fairly simple story because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   I like theirs theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   ok so there's an old guy who's bald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   mostly with gray hair and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:54   goatee and he's got a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   he's got a team of cyborg crime-fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   agent people and they they can fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   crime and right wrongs on I totally got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04   that and and what as I got through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   movie I'm like oh yeah and this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:08   stood co there is a TV show here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   makes this totally makes sense it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   just at the beginning again maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15   just want you to feel completely at sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   or something but I just felt like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   everything is numbered i just i hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   through my hands like I have no idea who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:23   is who they're talking about when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   they're talking for a long time about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   what section 6 section 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:27   section nine and we need to be part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   section 9 again it gives you the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   like you've dropped down in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   of something larger that you just are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   gonna have to figure out I felt like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36   could have been clearer if they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   wanted it to be and I didn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   yeah I think you're exactly right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:42   being dropped in the middle of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   that's larger that you don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   and that's that's actually something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:47   that drew me to the movie because and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   anime in general because i like feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   like I am in a world that is whole and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:55   is its own thing that is very separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   from what I'm used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59   I like the fact that anime is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   different from most of the entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02   that I'm used to consuming so the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   that that was first of all I felt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   that the numbers were were more elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   than all of the names that we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:10   letters little later there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   alphabet soup in the in the TV show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:15   and I like the idea that I that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   to figure this stuff out and I maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   need to watch it a number of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   because sometimes I mean I I like easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   escapism as much maybe more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   next guy but every once in a while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   like to to make my brain work for it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   bit and I found I it's hard to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   exactly what I felt the very first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   I saw this but I i seem to remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   it was confusing but it was deliciously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   confusing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   I enjoyed that feeling of you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   felt like i was literally in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45   of it and I was turning left and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   and looking up and down and I'm seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   all of these things that i don't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   recognize but they are intriguing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   so much so that i'm willing to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   the work and go back and watch it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   and again to really it define these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   things and and tease it out kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   twin peaks if you want to compare it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   a similar thing where like what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   incomprehensible show that like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   understand what's going on and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09   know who these people are doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   any sense to me and so like did I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:14   know if they're being intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   obtuse like twin peaks was like it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   was part of the thing but it that is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   experience of watching anime is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   part of what appeals to me is that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   going to have a bunch of crap dumped on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   me and it could be artfully done unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   our fleet I think it's way less are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   fully done in a television series then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   it is in the movie because the movie the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   movie takes time out to do as Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   mentioned earlier that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:35   that the musical montage and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   which you you know whether you like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   or you don't it's kind of like a tease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   musical montage is i love the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   things right i like i like the anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   montages with the with the people ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:47   yodeling over slow-motion shots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   decaying cities with airplanes flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51   over them like i like that i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   understand if you don't but the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   exhibition dumps it into that all things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   like why are you doing this on purpose i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   think they are doing it on purpose i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   don't think you can do it by accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02   they're so good at being so income it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   a twin peaks obviously doing it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   purpose right and this and that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   point is there are two ways to read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   one is they uh they think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:13   providing texture but by having them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16   just be numbers instead of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19   because this is a made-up world ok they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   could make it up and have labels on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   things like I said they could say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   you know its defense division and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27   the spy division or whatever and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   be like oh I get it there that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   defense division and I can Intuit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   that what it is or you know or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   just pick numbers and say whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   don't we don't know what we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   it's either that or I think would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   more likely they wanted to be this web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:46   of interconnections that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   struggle to which I love in novels right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   i love like what is it embassy town the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54   China Mieville that that is like he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:58   download their other books like this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   of neal stephenson's uh-oh an FM is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:04   this where it's like there's just words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   that you have no idea for up like 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   pages what the words mean and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11   have to figure it out and I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   that so that that was my struggle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   it was like are they really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   do they really expect me to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   keep track of all these numbers or am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   supposed to let it wash over me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21   eventually i'm just gonna figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   through context and I think that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   i got to its kinda like the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:26   between learning a language by taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28   class and having a teacher explained it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   to you or just immersing yourself in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   culture and moving to someplace like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:33   Japan and just figuring it out some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36   the chairman said that the in Japan the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   actual ministries are named with numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   like this i always i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   that's true or not but I always took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:43   is like having the numbers like section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   nine maybe the more cyber punky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   yeah maybe this is retconning section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   nine now sounds cool to me is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   section 92 section 9 and I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   section is or is it because section it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56   seems like mi5 does my five sound cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   because of james bond or was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   according to begin with like if you name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   things with numbers it its it's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   an aesthetic theme it's not so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   use the numbers is the fact that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:07   there are eight thousand moving parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   there 700 characters all have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   motivations you have to know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   which of these political parties who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   in power who is not what's motivating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   this rebel group what's motivating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   like there are so many moving pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19   most of which get like one word one line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   or like an animated I glance or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25   they're mentioned once they've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   seen on camera and they're like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   huge geopolitical force that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   in the movie knows about but you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31   idea about it because they just end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   is realistic in that like if everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:36   knows about it they're not going to does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   not going to be the exposition Bob that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   explains oh there was a world war four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   and five and here was what happened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43   then we had these refugees in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   people like they're not going to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46   for you and it because know people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   do that so the idea is that this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   complex future world and we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51   explain it so much has changed that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54   know we're not just gonna do the 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   thing is different it's like it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:57   different and it's not part of our story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   but it makes you feel more disconnected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   like oh this is really the future so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   much measures changed in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   episode of standalone complex there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   something like that where again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:08   this is just style thing that I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11   there's a download at one point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   left my head spinning where the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   inches in charge says oh you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   defense ministry and he was meeting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:19   this North American you know whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22   executive from that thing for the talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   involving this I'm like okay like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   wasn't complacent to say that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   thing and people are being held hostage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   by robot indications okay i think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:36   film it's a little bit harder to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   we have we have section 6 section 9 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:40   there they take seem to be adversarial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42   sometimes just an upside down but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   also have meetings and I think it's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45   a little bit harder because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   first scene is we basically have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   major who's working for section 9 carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   out what seems to be kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   assassination right and so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   it's a little unclear like who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   good guy who is you know you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:00   good are the good guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01   all that also John you're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:02   letters from the James Bond and so watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   out for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:04   why am i five mi6 and yeah he's mi6 I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:08   said it's cool because of james bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   franchise not him specifically ok i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11   always thought that he just worked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   the English agent Department of Special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   md apartment and it's it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   like that Syria or something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19   everything is in the movie you it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   explained in the movie there is at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   one line to explain who section 9 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   they're the ones who can get their hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   dirty to section 6 is the diplomatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   corps whatever why the section 6 can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   do this and you eventually second 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   review it revealed to be supporting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   the and section 9 like not if you watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37   the television series you see how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38   goes down between them but this internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   warring factions within the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:43   the only thing that's never make clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   the entire series is why I section 9 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   guess it's just our maki why why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   they the one is relatively non-corrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   part of the government every other part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   of the government is terrible like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   should also have especially if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   like where the where the guys that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   get her hands dirty carrying out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:58   assassinations but where the non-corrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   part right they are but they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   it feels like it's a cuts a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   people that's just a good group of kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   they're like this five last week that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   the key small numbers that's right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   and the one the one good leader I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   it's it you know in that respect it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   more like a television show but I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15   the television the format of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   television show i think is premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   action sequence then a scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   George Lucas style everyone sits there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:22   on couches and talks forever about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   nonsense like it is just unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:27   amount of stuff that you like about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   try to follow it and like it's just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30   feel like it's impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   I've seen this entire series like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   times some episodes are still like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37   I'm just never going to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:37   they're talking about right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   middle section of these episodes like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:40   you were to format this is the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   television show you like maybe cut out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   the part of the middle where they sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   around and talk because you've got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   exciting dynamic people here and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   always do like set up lots of action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   lots of talking and then the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54   story with action because the short show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:55   it's like 1 30 minutes or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   that you don't have time for like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   hour long drama you really just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:00   tape a call the story into a talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03   part in the middle and some episodes do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   it more gracefully than others and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   think that is probably the weakest part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   of the TV series and the movie i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:10   does a better job of sort of weaving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   throughout because they try to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   a sex position and less of a complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   plot in general than the reed insane arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   that forms the television series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   really the movie is more about themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   and characters and the world and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   about the specifics of the story and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   I think it is more artfully done there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   I mean I i really like this show but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   kind of laughed every time they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   the requisite seen in the middle where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   they have like their conference call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38   except they're all doing it by thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   so that like we don't actually know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   to animate anything for like 30 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   they're just there everyone just seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:45   like maybe they're in a car maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   there's a room but they're all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   thinking their thoughts back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:49   to each other just like what is savings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   ya might ah gasps ah doesn't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   participate had so much driving and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56   thinking using or driving and diving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   which i think is probably one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   most unsafe things you can do it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   texting and driving don't do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   should really give your eyes on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   but then again that they have spare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   cycles maybe they could do both at once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   I now see really unsafe there's they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   actually better drivers than we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   unfortunately a lot of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   episodes are in season 2 of this and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:18   I i watched all of season one again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   say wait I didn't get to my oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   that's in season to this and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:24   another thing about the format of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25   episodes i mentioned to Jason but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   thought he had a chance of seeing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28   than two of these at the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   the episodes they do this morning i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   going to watch the rest of them it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   just be no good for this podcast they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   this thing where they show over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   title sequence sure the title of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   episode and then it's growing region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   that is an English explanation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   scene you're about to see in the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:44   and then a little word tag on the sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   of their complex or standalone which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   a nice labeling system that perhaps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   x-files could have benefited from to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   tell you is this an episode that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   about the season long arc or is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   standalone episode that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57   monster-of-the-week and some of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   favorite episodes are standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:00   episodes because it gives them an excuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   in a 30-minute format which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:03   abbreviated you can do a standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   story and if you just watch the archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   soldiers I've never done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   I imagine it would form kind of coherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   whole but then you realize how important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12   a standalone episodes are even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   they don't move the plot along of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17   the the season long arc there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   character development all the standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:20   episodes interesting little story it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   kind of something that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:22   twilight zone ii some of the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   monster the week type thing but in each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   episode there's little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   development the later seasons they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   development of more obscure characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   maybe they ran out of stories for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   major impact on everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35   it's not just character development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36   though to there's some serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   world-building done in a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39   standalone episodes things that while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   you know maybe they're not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43   moving the plot forward the the themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   and technological bits and bobs that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   are seeing those and those stories are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   coming back later and and taking part in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:54   the complex type episodes and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   like yeah it would be interesting maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   to just watch all the complex ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   together but I feel like it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   dinner with no seasoning you'd be losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   yeah they do definitely like things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   you're going to see in the arc episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   they like like a good video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   explaining a mechanic to you before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   challenges you within the level they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   will explain a particular mechanic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   it in in the concept in the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   another story and then in the archive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   just use that because they assume you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   already know what it is and you've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   it before and that that structure works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   fairly well if you don't know that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   labels are there i find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   this this season flows well enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   you don't feel like you're going all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   this is obviously an archive so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:37   obviously standing because they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:38   begin kind of the same way like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41   sexytimes gotta look into it what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   deal with this problem there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   some kind of hackers involved are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   terrorists or someone like they all kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   of look the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:49   what's the difference between market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:50   below you know this one the Laughing Man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51   is your your you know symbol for this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   going to be an archive so but sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   they sneak up on you when they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57   something like this is the senior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58   related to laughing matter at all but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   hot actually is and it comes back around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02   it like i'm a sucker for that structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   again the x-files lots of other American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   television shows that use that structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   where they get to have their cake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:10   eat it too where you have cool season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   long arc but you can also have great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   standalone episodes something I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   missed on like something like lost where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18   every episode was kind of an arc episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   even if they have like this is cyrus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21   back story episode they always felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   there had to be and let's make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   progress on the island even if it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:26   you know two steps forward one step back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   or something like that whereas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   x-files and this thing or like look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31   episode is just going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32   monster-of-the-week we have a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   good idea for a story and a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35   finishing sequence with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   bouquet of flowers at a funeral sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   for spoiling it for you to Jason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   that's what we're gonna do I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42   remember that was a narc episode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   standalone but anyway there something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   like that some of my favorite episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   are standalone saw and some of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:47   actually in season 2 which I think could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50   you ask you before like what did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   guys think of the the movie judges movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55   not judges anime not judges like I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   it better than this anime or worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   the other but like it just in general as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00   a movie because I think that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   problem with anime people always want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   get a wise it by saying it's my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07   anime we kind of like saying it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   favorite animated movie like the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   who only talk about pixar movies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:12   context of other animated movies and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   just like that's one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   movies in general or one of my least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   favorite like grading on a curve say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   well it's terrible movie but among all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   anime it's a good one how do you judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   this as a movie movie i liked it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26   movie movie in fact I liked it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   the first time i thought that i take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   home and showed it to my family and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   family had I can't remember my sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   and brother had seen enemy by that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   I don't think they had I know my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   never had their science fiction fans so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   they were interested in just sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   themes of the film to begin with so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:43   knew that there would be at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:44   there'd be something for them to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   into and then they have no problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49   subtitles so we didn't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   about that and and everybody liked it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   mean my brother and sister liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:54   enough that they have become much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   anime fans than I have since then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   even my parents who I think we're maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:01   a little hesitant just because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:02   didn't know anything about this quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   enjoyed it and I think that they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   were a little bit confused by some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08   the same stuff that you know we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   talking about your sort of supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   be confused by but i think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   reading enough you know 70 sci-fi that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   they were totally fine with being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   completely confused by stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   supposed to be confusing and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   all liked it just as a film so I i give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:25   it a thumbs up across the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   I think it's a great science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   movie yeah I've seen it many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:31   because i like it so i'll say it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:32   up i think i'll probably continue to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35   little little bit to new things out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   it so well I can see having only student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   once i can see the benefit of going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41   and watching more times because having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   been in that world forth for that period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   of time for that hour and a half i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48   like i understand it now better than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   did when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:51   just the first time and so that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   it would benefit from from from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56   there were individual things in it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   I really like like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   I really like like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   mention the diving scene III I i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   the horror of the garbage man who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:08   this whole story of what he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   do that turns out to be completely alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:12   because he's been he's been ghosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   hacked into believing things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   not real and he thinks he had a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   and the story isn't that his wife didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   leave him or the store and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   the industry is that he never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   family and they can't erase those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   another like nobody and other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   know in the movie that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:29   times they explain to the audience oh by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   the way we can't fix him in our world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:32   were saying we can't get rid of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   memories yeah so how you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   getting i know i know that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   so that was kind of an amazing scene i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:41   really liked the action sequence when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   they drop through the roof and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:44   the mech with the giant you know machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:48   guns and she's trying to major trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   take out the tank by herself and ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   ripping her arms off and all that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   was a really nice action sequence but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57   like I said I i think i haven't watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   a one-time i can't say that i enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:03   because I think I struggled too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06   with not having any idea what was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   on with a lot of the road a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:12   exposition stuff just being like I I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:16   things are exploding and I know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17   are being sent various places to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   things but like any nuance of what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:22   actually going on was completely lost on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   me because I just was a completely it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   at sea so I I you know I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   appreciate the relationship between who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:34   I would I guess call the two main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   characters which are the major and photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:41   but yeah but no I really enjoyed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:45   relationship and we've talked about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   of that about their conversation on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   boat after she's done diving him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   apologizing for getting there late he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   comes in to save the day at the very end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   and so sorry I'm so sorry I'm late it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   like dipped least you saved everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   at the very end sorry I'm late I i liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:05   a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   stuff it was a lot there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   stuff in there and I guess I guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   I'm saying is i'm not opposed to seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   it again because i feel like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   understand it more and what it did do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:17   make me realize what a great world this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3737">TS</a>]

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01:05:27   signs that are written in English or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3927">TS</a>]

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01:05:39   i felt like i got the power of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3939">TS</a>]

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01:05:47   into the TV series I thought that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3947">TS</a>]

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01:06:08   the heads-up display kind of labels on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09   everything is straight out of Max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3969">TS</a>]

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01:06:13   cyberpunk kind of remix coming back any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/3973">TS</a>]

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01:08:28   boxes sliding across the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4108">TS</a>]

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01:09:09   it's very easy to type ghost in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   shell and get the new one you do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:12   want that you were about live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   movie starring scarlett johansson yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   well I got to get to that in a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:17   but first I want to talk about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   rewatch idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   re watching this like if this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   your kind of movie forget about the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   that it's animated if the if the pacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   and sort of flow of this movie with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:28   weird musical montages and the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   philosophical talking to each other in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   the quiet moments if that doesn't appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   to you and you will never liked this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:35   movie that's what this movie is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36   about right but at the very least on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   rewatch you can see how like typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   movie stuff did you notice that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   showed the pictures of his family to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   is the the his garbage truck co-worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48   of course you did but you didn't notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   that you never got to see the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:51   because you weren't thinking that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:52   like whatever he shown in picture is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   important but it later it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:55   important that you never saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:56   picture because the picture of him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:57   his dog or whatever from the park not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:00   things like that you will get on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01   second watch that only connect up after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   the fact and that's like any movie with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:05   isn't it you know like the success or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06   anything where there's a any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   twist or plot reveal or now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11   more about the world you can watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12   see all that actually makes sense and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   all fits together and that way you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:15   enjoy the movie in a more detailed level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   that the sort of political intrigue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   the warring factions in the movie are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23   much less important than the themes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:24   mean there there you can figure them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   but they are they don't reveal much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   other than making you not be confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:29   and putting you in the brain state where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   you're like do I have to know this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   make sense of the next scene in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:34   movie in general you just have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   what the big moving pieces on the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:37   are and it's really more of a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:40   in themes story playing out over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   backdrop like you didn't even need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:43   know who was writing that tank who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:46   sending those helicopters to shoot her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   you just need to know that these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:49   threats and that how she's doing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:50   really the internal struggle i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   more important than the extra Hollen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   yeah the external struggle becomes much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   more I think important in the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   go write a movie is much more artfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01   internal struggle now I mean I i doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:05   the the TV show would spend whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:08   five minutes for about a cyborg diving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11   yeah I'm so for the for the physics the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:14   actual device will talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15   live-action movie here a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   to say about the TV show after that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18   so the the prospect of a live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   version of this has been talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:21   for many years as with any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23   iconic animation thing some people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   to see a live action version of it some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   people don't now apparently they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   making it i don't know who's attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   other than scarlett johansson who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:31   directing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:32   it's a stevens field produced I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34   sure who's directing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   yeah well so high i have dim hopes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:39   this movie not just because they cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:40   Scarlett Johansson but because she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42   totally does not reduce the major made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   race reasons totally aside like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   character doesn't seem like that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:48   the reason i don't think it'll work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:51   least as a live-action version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53   movie we saw is that no one will ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   would ever make a live-action movie of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   this like no one's ever you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:58   shot-for-shot remake and no one is ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59   going to ape these themes and this style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:02   in this pacing and like the core of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:05   no one would let you make a live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   really expensive movie with this court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   because the it is it is subtle it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   nuanced it is lost on a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   and it's just not broadly appealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14   right it's not it's not a crowd-pleaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17   write this this movie is that crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:18   pleaser except to you know anime fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   and a lot of them are taking the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   banks from it if you watch this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   and really excited by boobs you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:25   you're not getting the message that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27   movie is trying to say if you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:28   there's other sources you could go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   write right it's not like they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33   they're never going to make a movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   is in any way like this can make another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   movie sort of like a loosely based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   sure I mean they made blade runner out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   of do androids dream of electric sheep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:42   and there's like no relation between us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   whatsoever like and they're both really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:47   interesting and great in their own right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:48   so I don't I don't begrudge them an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   attempt to make a good movie loosely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:53   based on this but i don't think anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   ever has the guts or the financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   wherewithal to make a live-action movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   that is either this live-action version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   of this movie or a live-action movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:02   like this movie which is a shame because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04   I like movies like this i think that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   think that was probably going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:08   the greatest danger is that they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   not be loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   enough with their interpretation of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   they will try to stick closer to it than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:16   they probably should but they'll leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:17   out all of the beautiful pieces that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   make it what it is and it will just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:22   mediocre action movie with lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   explosions and a half naked woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:25   it'll be like the CG version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   openings like we're doing the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:28   things right here she is getting out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:29   bed here she is questioned the doll here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:31   she is like jumping around like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33   what that was right you know so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:34   they have a scene of her trying to tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   lid off at anchor arms a break off its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   like that wasn't like you have to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:39   the movie like you can also we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:42   we have that movie right mentally and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   think it's fine i like that idea if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:45   want to do a shot for shot live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   reinterpretation of this i give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   license to do it go ahead try to do it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:50   think it really hard because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   this is the beautifully animated movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   and I think it really hard to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:55   live action but if you want to give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   try go ahead but if you if you just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   the sort of we have to have a scene like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:02   this we have seen like that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:03   pic the seven iconic scenes in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   movie put them in the movie the cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:06   they're not going to put the scuba scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:07   because they don't understand what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:08   seems about as sure as hell not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   have a shot through a bunch of goggles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:11   water droplets on it because i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   idea what that was in the movie in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:13   first place and it'll just be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:15   made an action movie there's a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   scenes look familiar to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:18   I think it would be worse like I'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:20   not a big comic fan but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   watchman movie was big about like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   is like a power from the comic right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:25   guys right elbow elbow at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:28   watch Mego has the sin city movies if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31   you really value is exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   thing but it but further get stabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   right in the hood it at the very least I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   felt like as someone who is not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:38   comic fan i vaguely understood what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:42   watchman comic series was about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   matically from watching the movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   recognize that the movie was diverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   problems with the movie you know I i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:51   understand people who said that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:52   pale shadow of the comic book series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:53   which I think at this point actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:54   have read most of the comic book series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   but like I understand the historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   context surrounding that comic and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   you it's not reflected in the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:02   it's this like kind of like I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   watch movies like the best-case scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   for a live-action ghost in the shell not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   the worst get that is as good as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   ever going to get and just everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:11   else is like the worst-case scenario i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   guess is Lucy right where the spirit or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   something like that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   rupert sanders director of snow white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   and the huntsman as his only major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   feature is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:23   attached to that ghost in the shell live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:26   action by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28   mm but Justin seemed likely nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:31   nervous why and it's ya produced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4531">TS</a>]

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01:15:36   syracuse a sense tingling former Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:39   Comics producer guy hit who did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   spider-man movies so yeah yeah and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:44   the TV series i could make a live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:47   TV series like this i think that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   easier sell because if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   the anime TV series one thing we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   mention is that the TV series version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   ghost in the shell inject humor into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   what the movie is almost entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59   humorless like it's pretty dark pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:01   grim pretty straightforward the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:03   series has touch Acamas like they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:06   their own little spin off things I put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:07   little shorts in there I know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:08   watch them that is a big part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   series that is it kind of like not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:13   the 18 but like section nine jokes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:15   each other they have personalities like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   they go on these adventures they solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   crimes they you know they work out their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   personal issues you know like it is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:24   like a very traditional american TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   with a bunch of upskirt shots thrown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   into it ends ridiculous outfits for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   women like so it's got everything bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   that you would think from japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:33   animation series a lot of the bad stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:34   american series but also a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   good things and i don't know i worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   that an American TV version would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   look a lot like the short-lived TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:42   series almost human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:44   i watch that and I would hope that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:46   could be much better because the eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:48   just as cast of characters have a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:49   who's like this have a guy like even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:51   you just take the broadest cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:53   outlines of these characters it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:54   nice dynamic within the group and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   think american shows do sort of ensemble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:59   uh like honestly this is just a lius at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:03   that point other than that the cyborg so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:05   well but anything you have the setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:06   this like I said that the the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   series does take the setting seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   and most of their stories like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:11   their entire it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:12   monster-of-the-week it's explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   ramifications of these the world that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:17   have drawn typing what like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:20   episode we'll explore some ramification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:21   not as if it's at revelation to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:23   people involved but because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:24   matter of course like up another you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:27   know cyber brain is hijacked a tank is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   rampaging through the town up this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:30   girl had to be transferred into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   different body and can't handle it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33   it just happens all the time you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   gotta deal with it but to the view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:36   it's all new and that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   excitement that I think you know would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   would come through in the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   series that you have this group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:43   people and their leader and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45   funny little robots and the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:46   they would solve it they would treat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   matter of factly but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:49   interesting to you because you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:50   used to this world and i think almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   human fell down because it was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54   people in the show was shocked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   world deliverance and you lived there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:57   this is all normal to you it's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:58   to be shocking to us you can I go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   robots talking for themselves like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   that's almost internet problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04   yeah but i had dr. McCoy that was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   it was good it was not that came and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:10   wacky wacky robot sidekick drive around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:11   solving crimes unit thing they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   we got rid of the robots but now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   bringing them back to makes it to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   like the fish-out-of-water they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:19   have aisles had like one phrase unfrozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   caveman cop like you're like what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23   woke up we unfroze you guess what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:24   have robots in the police now how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26   feel about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:27   Jason ghost in the shell american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   edition Karl Urban is the major are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:32   no no its back to Carla organs bought 2i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:35   will think about it that probably makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   a lot more sense because I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:38   want to see Karl Urban wearing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   outfit with purple hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   I think he could sell it you should see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:43   though you should see her hair styles in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:44   the second season they have like wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   this weird sailor suit thing it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:47   goes out of control like the only good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:50   like that's the great thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:51   television series does more of that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   ridiculous animate things but then her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:56   expression is stone-cold killer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   whole time like she just not giggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   she's not worth anything right but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02   wearing this outfit is like how to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   like it they I think they tried to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:07   TV series you start to you stop at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:09   I started to try to rationalize it in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:11   head again head can and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:13   she is playing dress up on herself as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   doll but like she's basically playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   with dolls and the dollars herself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   she still wants to be taken seriously so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   still just completely straight face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23   expression all time and no one ever says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   anything about it because no one's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:26   say anything to the major about anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:27   like what are you going to make fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:29   her outfit that's not going to go well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:30   for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:30   so that's my rationalization myself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:33   you don't even you also really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:34   even get any if any sort of heat from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37   any of the other characters that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:38   not like looking at her when she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   looking there at that point but by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:42   time the TV show rolls around it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44   like the other characters even bato are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46   really not treating her any differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   because she's female because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   dressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:50   this way certainly the gaze of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:51   camera and i'm guessing a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54   audience and definitely treat her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   differently but within the the world the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:59   fiction of the show she is just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   major and she's just doing her thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03   they kind of ignore that that extreme is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:05   trappings which which I appreciated i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07   was able to i was able to sort of hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:10   wave it away a little bit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12   because nobody else is paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:13   to it so I was like all right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14   what I'm not going to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   yeah it's like the it's like the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:17   of Star Trek the world the way star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   is supposed to be where hot you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:22   they're there is no class structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:24   there's no money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:25   listen you know everyone is like women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   are manageable equal like the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:30   in this setting behave that way always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   right and aside from the vague romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:35   tension between bato and the major that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:38   is still there in the television series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:39   does not play it up quite as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   everybody else is all about business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   they care about each other and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   a team but there is never anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   that from anybody for many of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:49   superiors the sexual harassment from her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   superiors it's not clot money doing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53   that way it feels so much more future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:55   worldy then have an American television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4855">TS</a>]

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01:20:59   yes and that's that's what I like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01   much and actually speaking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   romantic tension that is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04   I never really read into it but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:07   that that was for me kind of a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   preference headcanon type of a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   because it's so rare to see a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   kick-ass female character existing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:17   any kind of media property where she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   not also an object of affection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:23   romantic intent from somebody whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:26   it's required or not so for me I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:28   this very refreshing that she was a just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:31   an amazing female character who is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33   her thing and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:34   yeah she doesn't have a human body but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36   she still presents herself as female and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38   and that she's not treated any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40   differently because of that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:41   like oh my God look at the girl is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43   that was really cool and nothing between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:47   her and bato was overt in anyway so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:50   was able to read it as just these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   two grown-ups that have a very very deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:56   affection for each other in a very sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:57   of complex relationship and I was able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:00   to read it and watch it without seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02   any romantic over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:03   tones because that's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05   comfortable for me because it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/4925">TS</a>]

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01:23:33   series her like sleeping with someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5013">TS</a>]

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01:23:45   thing but you can wish it away because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5025">TS</a>]

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01:23:52   of like one more underlying sadness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5032">TS</a>]

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01:24:04   in love with another robot and i myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5044">TS</a>]

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01:24:08   myself for doing it but I do care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5048">TS</a>]

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01:25:34   military purposes to be baking Strong's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:36   converted piecemeal I he is dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5136">TS</a>]

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01:25:59   conversion cyborgs but like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5159">TS</a>]

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01:26:04   disinfected and going off in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5164">TS</a>]

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01:26:12   these feelings and I remember what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:13   was like to be human and I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5173">TS</a>]

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01:26:17   it was like he's hanging out with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   like a lost puppy and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5179">TS</a>]

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01:26:23   it is not a bi-directional thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5183">TS</a>]

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01:26:33   about before we before we wrap it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5193">TS</a>]

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01:26:49   talk about expedition are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5209">TS</a>]

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01:26:54   challenging in that regard like and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   liked it i wouldn't say they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:58   impenetrable because I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5218">TS</a>]

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01:27:09   minutes scene where that whatever two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5229">TS</a>]

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01:27:14   will stand together and talk about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   one of them will explain to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   one exactly what had happened in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5238">TS</a>]

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01:27:37   appreciated those those parts because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   without that I really wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5259">TS</a>]

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01:28:00   television series and which I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:02   never going to hear about again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5282">TS</a>]

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01:28:09   to each other isn't it's like show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5289">TS</a>]

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01:28:17   have these set-pieces they want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5297">TS</a>]

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01:28:24   real quickly and then move on and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26   ending part explaining like in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5306">TS</a>]

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01:28:35   of exposition and that is much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:37   artful than the movie but it has that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:40   feel like it has that comfort food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:42   familiarity of again the a-team or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5322">TS</a>]

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01:28:47   ensemble crime-solving interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:51   television series that is comfortable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   just watch one of these 30-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:54   episodes especially the standalone ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5334">TS</a>]

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01:28:58   yeah you know yep but then sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:01   sometimes you get touchy comas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   yeah I didn't I did not actually care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   for the magic almost that much don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5345">TS</a>]

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01:29:19   haven't seen the other seasons they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   they do get progressively worse i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:22   to admit first season i think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:24   best the second one is is ok but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:26   kind of derivative and by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5366">TS</a>]

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01:29:29   little bit of a mess and then not by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5369">TS</a>]

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01:29:32   just not there for me so that they not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:35   think that when you were eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:36   because they do have some value and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38   finally they do the thing that I love so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:41   much they remixed and rebooted it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5381">TS</a>]

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01:29:46   is a reimagining of the majors origins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:48   with a different animation style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:50   I don't like it as much as this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52   original series but I love seeing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54   go ahead try to tell that story again to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5394">TS</a>]

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01:29:58   be the same character it's like a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   know what alternate universe i guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02   whole yeah Jason tell us about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5402">TS</a>]

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01:30:07   but you're not Peter Parker you are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:09   major but you look a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:11   different and you have an entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:12   different like how can just keep telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5412">TS</a>]

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01:30:15   this you know there's a new link it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:17   the link but no and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:20   another thing that's kind of comment to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:21   and amazed that they don't shy away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:23   sort of what we would call the alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:24   universe type stuff you know they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:26   just they'll just do it if they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   an idea so you know it doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:30   exist in the realm of fanfic like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:33   most cartoons in the United States so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   always always found that fascinating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5435">TS</a>]

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01:30:38   version of the same thing that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:39   saw that's mean I think arises like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5439">TS</a>]

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01:30:45   you can watch it and I it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:47   instructive think about in which ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5447">TS</a>]

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01:30:51   and tell me stories were like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5451">TS</a>]

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01:30:55   many other things like all you missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5455">TS</a>]

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01:30:59   get the major that I love and you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:01   make a new major that I love you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:02   kind of have major window dressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   but you have really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:06   character designs and like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08   I just like seeing people take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:10   multiple goes at the same story in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:12   same characters two different styles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:13   different directors different writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:14   and see if they can find another angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:16   on it and in the way that I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5476">TS</a>]

01:31:18   people like the spider of our stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:20   where if you like spider-man you'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22   him anyway and get him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:23   yeah yeah you don't hold too sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:25   Peter Parker you'll say I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27   spider-man 2 in fact maybe I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:28   spider-man better than the quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:30   real spider-man all the spiders crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:31   forget about that spider-man like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   spider-man that was all black / but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:34   one you know what was that guy called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:36   venom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:37   I don't know integer and you Jason can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:39   explain that no I think I i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41   that's that yellow remix other ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:44   tell of looking at a story is that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:47   be a lot of fun and I when we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:48   comic books on the show I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:51   one of the things that comes up is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:52   the weight of continuity and saying well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54   you know we already said it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:55   this versus telling stories that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5515">TS</a>]

01:31:58   be a little bit different but good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   stories and and so you know taking an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:03   meet premise and doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:04   different with it and spinning in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:05   different way you know give it a try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:08   might be good might not be but it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   be i was reminded in arise there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:12   character where they use new to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:14   community and skimpy clothing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:17   totally different way in the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   traditional anime way every time you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   it you're like seriously seriously this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:23   is her outfit but it's just it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:26   over-the-top and there is no thematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   support for it and is not done with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:30   higher purpose it is more embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:32   than the majors office season one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34   like how to sneak into the show like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:36   do these people get permission to redo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:37   ghost in the shell do they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:39   understand what this character in series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:40   about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:41   certainly not are there any touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:42   comas I i think there are getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:45   questions did you did you did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:47   your eyes anybody Tony no I did not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:50   did not feel it all straight on I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:52   it's enough to think so maybe I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:54   as I think it's only like three episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:55   is really really short and someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   the chatroom said it was for one hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:58   episodes I think so yeah I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:01   were talking comas it all kind of blends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   together in a giant going to shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:04   Stewart a certain point the only put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06   only part of of any of it through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   movie or the TV show that actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:10   really really got to me emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:12   enough to make me cry and i'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:14   to say what was because it comes kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:15   late was tachikoma related and I yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:18   was weepy so yep big fan that it didn t [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:23   you guys watch the dubs of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:25   movie or television series the Cubs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:26   just awful on this which is a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   there were a couple of times when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:29   accidentally clicked them the mouse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:32   I didn't realize it when the mouse was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:33   like over my VLC player and it switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:35   over to the dumbing briefly kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   a half what's happening you don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39   it stop it is not good and not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   voices don't match but that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:43   they're not good voice actors and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:46   we can and we've said this before John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   you can't I can't judge how good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:52   actors are in Japanese like but i can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:54   can judge that they are molding in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:56   way like they're not mechanically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:58   reading lines and and characterization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:00   why's that the main characterization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:02   thing that drives me nuts is when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:04   character does not have a perky feminine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:08   voice in the japanese one and they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:10   her perky them in feminine voice in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:12   american one or at least perkier or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:14   feminine it's like or same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:16   the men if a man is gruff and just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:18   has an expression and in american money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:20   sounds like that Brannigan take no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:23   that's not that's not the character you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:25   could be saying piglatin it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5665">TS</a>]

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01:34:30   that's that that's the worst sinners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:32   like my bebop of all the dubs that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34   seen probably commit those sins but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:38   is watchable least but the this i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:40   i can't watch the way I haven't had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:43   watch the double this time thing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:44   because i'm not showing it to my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:47   that's the reason why it's not good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5687">TS</a>]

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01:34:52   whatever first part of the movie first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54   20 minutes or so in that and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:55   realized I need to not watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:57   anymore because it was awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5697">TS</a>]

01:34:58   yeah and the good thing is they don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5698">TS</a>]

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01:35:06   the subtitles you don't look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:07   people sitting on the couch is driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:08   the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:09   who yep relief it's like a comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:13   that talks to you in a language you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZXApHU/5713">TS</a>]

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