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176: ‘Frolic’, With Special Guest Craig Hockenberry

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► Craig's good to hear your voice yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02 ◼   ► likewise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2">TS</a>]

00:00:03 ◼   ► it's been awhile since we talked yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► what you wanna do this let's just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6">TS</a>]

00:00:13 ◼   ► out of the way we got to talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/13">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► Trump tech tech summit because here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/14">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► the thing man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/18">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► you know what I said when I think I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► you're going to lead off with this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/21">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► would have you know starting my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► holiday party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► here's the thing even as I'm not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30 ◼   ► shying away from writing about politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► on daring fireball even if I decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35 ◼   ► that if I had chosen differently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► said you know what I'm not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/37">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► whatever my feelings are going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► this a politics frite site even even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/40">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► this there's that here's an intersection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► of of Trump administration incoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► Trump administration and the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► I do right about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/51">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► I you know would be criminal not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► mention it so what happened i have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► anybody either head-in-the-sand Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► and his buddy Peter teal put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► summit of the invited I don't they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/61">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► invited 10 people i think there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► like 14 people from Trump's immediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/68">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► family and his girl Friday transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► team and attendant there and 10 liters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► of of the US tech industry who were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/77">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► attendance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► I think it was Tim Cook from apple or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► primo seat to away from Trump you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/84">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► the seating you know if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► seating chart it was clearly very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► pleased thought out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► yeah I just thought out definitely yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► i mean you don't you don't just say only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► a one two three kids sit over here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► it's looking at it that into the tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► like the you know that the kids table at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► Thanksgiving right well yeah I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/105">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► did the thing that got me was that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54 ◼   ► picture of a of tim cook right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► just the look on his face and I I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► not to read into pictures too much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► mean you have all done you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► you're watching a video or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/124">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► you know you pause and it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► person making that face which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► what the heck you know that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► doesn't fit into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► the story is going on with it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► making some funny face right but I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► at that picture of tim cook and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► the expression i think i would have if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► was at that meeting right just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26 ◼   ► ashen kind of what the hell is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/149">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► somebody you are to watch the HBO show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/156">TS</a>]

00:02:40 ◼   ► that Larry David Choe curb your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► enthusiasm because they the show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/162">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► anybody doesn't want to show usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/165">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/166">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► it's a very it the the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► incredibly awkward it's about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► nothing about other than about creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53 ◼   ► awkward situations and then a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► Arizona and in a horribly awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► situation with a freeze frame and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► it's funny music comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► yeah that's all that was missing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► funny music but there's another thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/183">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► where I'm always hesitant to especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/188">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► at coming out of a political election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/191">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► whether it's national or local there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17 ◼   ► obviously there's it its and it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► gotten worse because i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► because our politics have gotten so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/201">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► more partisan and the fact that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► are so many more photographs taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► because digital cameras if you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► watched these press conferences that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► it really almost sounds like it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36 ◼   ► war zone but it almost where where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► the pro photographers in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► journalists have these SLR digital SLRs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► and they just they just hold the shutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► down and they just keep right they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/227">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► keep shooting you know six to eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► frames per second every second non-stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► because the cardstock know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► yeah that that's what I'm saying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► you know it's really easy these days to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► cherry pick an image right to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► one where Tim Cook is making that face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► because you know you've thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► right names you know and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► about the case that right and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► election ads in election ads you are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► both sides do it it's this is here's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► where it's not really a partisan thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► but they tend to find an unflattering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► photo of the opponent of to put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► ad if it's an attack ad and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► times I think it's very obvious that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► can tell that it's just one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► like everybody knows it like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► going through your family photos and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/269">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► say like you know you know look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► sunset here you guys stand right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► i'll take a couple photos and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► middle one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► you know somebody you know one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► subjects in your family just looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/278">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► horrible just absolutely like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► elastic mid blank right here it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► you look like you're smoking bongs all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► day because your eyes you're halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49 ◼   ► shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/289">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► and it's like right or just more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► like this the person was you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► know that you're taking a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55 ◼   ► photos and they're trying to hold their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► eyes open for the first one and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/297">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► just feels like there's something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/298">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► there so they make like a weird blink to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► like clear their eyes hopefully before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03 ◼   ► you shoot the next shutter but in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► it's mid shutter and they just look not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► so I don't think that's Tim Cook in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► scenario it looks to me you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11 ◼   ► that no like that that's that that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/311">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► you know that is how I would feel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► that situation I don't you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► like and it's it's you know didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/319">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► Thompson made a good thing in his a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/323">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► point in his newsletter admit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► really struck me was that Trump is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/329">TS</a>]

00:05:33 ◼   ► saying you know how we want to help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/335">TS</a>]

00:05:36 ◼   ► well there's a flip side to that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► what happens if he does not want to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► you write he sees these already over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/342">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/346">TS</a>]

00:05:47 ◼   ► what is it last week or maybe earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► this week where he put out that tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► about canceling a Lockheed order and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► their stock tanked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► yep and I do we series he's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/356">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► power now and you don't want that power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/361">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► to affect your shareholder value the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► week before he was complaining about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► Air Force One order for our Air Force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/372">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► order for a a new Air Force One you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► there aren't they are an Air Force One [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► and you know if you're like good just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► one of those things that I knew but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26 ◼   ► find fascinating i find air force one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28 ◼   ► be a fascinating things like a history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► geek and you know just someone who's up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► that's about so i'm a proud American and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36 ◼   ► I like certain aspects of it and air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38 ◼   ► force ones cool thing but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► things I've always known is that Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► Force One is not an airplane a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► airplane it's actually right there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/406">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► yep its Air Force One is the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► designation of the one that's carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► the president so right like if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/412">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► President of the United States is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► sitting in the Oval Office there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► air force one right there are trains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► that could be our force one but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► becomes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/423">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► force one when the president of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► united states is on the plane and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07 ◼   ► it gets that official designation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► that the two that they have right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► were a commissioned under the Reagan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/430">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► administration and I believe george HW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► bush was the first to fly them so these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► are these planes have been in use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► the original George Bush Bill Clinton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► George W Bush and Barack Obama and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/443">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► will be the ones that Trump gets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► that the new ones that the Air Force's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► looking to commission would not be ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/454">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► until either the very very very tail end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► of an eight-year Trump administration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► which let's face it whenever you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► we get eight years at Trump we going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► meet ya gonna be an earth day and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► don't want a lot more is his successor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► anyway Trump bitched about the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► these planes and and Boeing's stock tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/472">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► you know not tagged it didn't recover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► but he tweets and stocks move that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► a fact I mean like we it in between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► joking about it and you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► partisanship of it i mean there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► no denial that when the president's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► state comes out and says he's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► like to cancel of the five billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► dollar order for Air Force One [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/494">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► yeah that's going to have an effect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/497">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► the company yeah is it that I read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► other day that that on Bloomberg now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► Bloomberg terminals that-that-that-that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► the market uses to keep track with Miz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► as Trump streets on it now they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► feed Trump's tweets into the Bloomberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► terminals as it's important to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► immediately exactly it moves the economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► that's like she sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/515">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► so now I I let me read for this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/522">TS</a>]

00:08:46 ◼   ► i actually wrote to Ben depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► show all the time and he's a friend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► I told him I thought his take was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► excellent it was I filed it under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► eye i wish i had a thought of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/533">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► that exactly what you said that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► hey I'm here to help you folks do well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► that's actually an actual quote from him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► i'm here to help you folks do well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► we're going to be there for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► yeah it's it is a violation of economics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/549">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► is bunk reading from Ben's email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► government on to be sent setting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► enforcing the rules of the game not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► actively helping one of the teams it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► recipe for not just corporate accuracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/563">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► and the inevitable corruption that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/570">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► parentheses this is where I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► trumps children attended the meeting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► parentheses but the closing off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/574">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► opportunity to the unknown companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► that might challenge those large enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► to be quote helped this should be of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► particular concern to the startup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► ecosystem and I can't say it any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► than that I think it's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50 ◼   ► that it's that's you know and again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/590">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► say you know there's there's positives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► and negatives to every system of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/597">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► government but you know part of the gist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► of a democratic capitalist nation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/601">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► that the role of government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► I i think this is then again there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► only this is a partisan viewpoint I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► think it's just a statement of fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► kids learned in elementary school if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► role of the government is doing keep a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► fair level playing field yeah it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► out there as exactly it's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► fairness and that's the discussion about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/625">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► diversity to it's about fairness right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► and you know protecting any idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35 ◼   ► the role of the president's to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► the 10 biggest corporations and tech is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► the opposite of it because the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► point is that it's healthy for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► example you know like in if this meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/643">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► had been held in nineteen eighty 180 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48 ◼   ► would have been one of the would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► been d probably the company right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/649">TS</a>]

00:10:53 ◼   ► you know in fact that they yeah and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55 ◼   ► goes against competition right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► Apple maps is getting better because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► it's competing against google maps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/659">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► android is getting better because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► competing against the iphone right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► that competition and having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/668">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► competition be fair is what makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► work right if somebody comes along and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► says you know well hey Tim Cook you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► he's gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► m-maybe Google's better right little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/681">TS</a>]

00:11:27 ◼   ► hole what did you're not competing on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► fair playing field at that point and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► think everybody in tech would have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► problem that ever affect hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► everybody in the US with our problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► with that yet that's the road that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► heading down right now most most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/703">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► in Texas has been noted before this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► meeting that most of the industry was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/709">TS</a>]

00:11:54 ◼   ► unfit you know on the side of Hillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► Clinton in this election on for several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/717">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► reasons but a lot certainly largely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► on immigration and on social issues like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/724">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► young gay rights and and don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/729">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► yeah one of the people though I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/732">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► this CEO of oracle her name she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/738">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► actually in the same picture with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► yeah she looks very happy to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► she's very enthusiastic in her remarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► before the the meeting and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/750">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► after the meeting it was announced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35 ◼   ► she's joining his transition team and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/755">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► some form right and she's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► obviously some people and selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42 ◼   ► databases but my question is it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/762">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► a large number of people and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► has to be addressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► whoo-hoo think that the people like Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/772">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► Cook satya nadella from Microsoft larry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/777">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► page from google should not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► attended this meeting they should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► declined the invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► action ended on the basis that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► just dog-and-pony show and it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► photo opportunity for Trump and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► children and his transition team to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/794">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► these people parade in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► media I mean there's a reason why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21 ◼   ► media was there and that the photographs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/801">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► are taken and it wasn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► certainly could have been held privately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25 ◼   ► if they wanted to was not it was help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/805">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► publicly certainly not for the benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/806">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► of those who are invited it was certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/809">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► you know only for the benefit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► companies transition team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/814">TS</a>]

00:13:35 ◼   ► I don't think that's disputable right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37 ◼   ► should they have declined the invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/817">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► I on the basis of of it being a form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/818">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► protest against Trump and what he you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► know what he campaigned on and what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46 ◼   ► you know trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► alright I think that they're playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► longer game here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/830">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► yes it is a PR opportunity in fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► you know these that PR opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55 ◼   ► take a swipe at Twitter right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► just over the whole crooked Hillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► thing and yeah I don't think you wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/840">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► it's it's not a matter of a agreeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/844">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► with him at this point I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► pretty safe to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► oracle CEO is named safra catz by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► way I want to get that out there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► before the meetings after cats the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► who has joined his transition team while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23 ◼   ► remaining at oracle CEO i should add her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► quote was I plan to tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► president-elect that we are with him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► will help in any way we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► and my my take on during fireball was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► that that sounds a lot like I'm ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► spit science it's shining shoes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/876">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► ready to help in any way we can is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► end with him are pretty unequivocal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► statement of support which i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/886">TS</a>]

00:14:51 ◼   ► are supported and compare and contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► that and I pointed this out on during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► fireball I think Tim Cook ed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► unsurprisingly so was very very precise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/897">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► in his on-the-record remarks so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/901">TS</a>]

00:15:06 ◼   ► they did is they started the meeting by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► going around the table and introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► themselves and hit Tim Cook all he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► was Tim Cook very good to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► not very glad very good to be here and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/914">TS</a>]

00:15:17 ◼   ► look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/917">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► very forward to talking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► president-elect about the things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► can do to help you achieve some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► you want my end of statement is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/925">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► raising a no it is not using it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/929">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► its raising a stink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► it's it's all played on the surface i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► sure in the moment as it went around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/936">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► table and it went on but if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► about those words precisely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/939">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► particular the difference between were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/940">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► with you and ready to help in any way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► can from oracle vs help you achieve some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/945">TS</a>]

00:15:51 ◼   ► things you want like I said they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► playing a longer game here right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► they've played they've played games with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► the federal government before right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/956">TS</a>]

00:15:57 ◼   ► last year with the you know the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► iphone FBI thing right there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/959">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► they know that this is not just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► end it all with Ali I'm never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► know now that there are the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11 ◼   ► now that they are the biggest we are at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► least for now the biggest company by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► market cap and you know and there's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/974">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► a handful of companies within spitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► distance you know alphabet being being I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► think number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► exxonmobil looks like they might have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► good eight year there's four years at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► but now that they're big now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► they're big they're now that they're big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► though they they're obviously in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► crosshairs of a antitrust type stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/995">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► which we saw with the ibooks thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► I roll my eyes at because of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► fact that the ibookstore it's never the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► dominant seller they were yeah they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► at every point along the way way smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► than amazon but I would almost point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► that as that was amazon it was amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► who played the Justice Department and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► was apples like sort of disinterest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► on involvement in the big that game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► let them be painted in that corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► I think that's where they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► realizing that Washington is a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► right right that's there because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► true it's beyond you know that what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► amazon had the Justice Department here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► and I'm not saying it's corrupt I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► saying no it was a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► were we look at that situation purely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► from technical technical point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► right in right there were engineers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► right we wheats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► see who's making what money and what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► know kind of money they're charging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► you know how the system works and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► that's not our Washington works at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► it's it's more emotions and politics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► leverage and that kind of thing so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► that's in fact that's probably what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► this you know they went into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► meeting with you know that's like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► how am I gonna survive what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1075">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► here right let's let's let's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► number one that did everybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► attended that meeting know who else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► gonna be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► I believe so yes yeah you know and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► it's interesting actually says it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► such a small small and invitation list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► yeah i thought it interesting you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► that you know of the invites three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► them more women in Iran body the the CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23 ◼   ► or and Sheryl Sandberg alright alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► Zuckerberg did not attend Sandberg up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► attended as the representative which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► think is that I don't even think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37 ◼   ► just to see a woman at the table i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:42 ◼   ► that my understanding again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► follow facebook anywhere near as closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► as I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► apple or some other companies but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► think it's representative of her role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► there i think i think it's very fair to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► say that she's she is tues och what Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► was to Steve Jobs yep you know that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► than a lot more than a red typical coo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► more of a partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► I've said this many times on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► many many times but i believe it as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:11 ◼   ► now as I ever did that it during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► especially i would say like from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► iphone on especially like but at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► point I believe now maybe even before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22 ◼   ► that I you know but at some point cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25 ◼   ► clearly had jobs is trust and i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► do think that if you described Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► Cook's day-to-day activities at Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► somebody who didn't know the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► you said what position do you think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► person has that most people would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► well that sounds like he's the CEO that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38 ◼   ► Steve Jobs was really more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► day-to-day head of product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► Tim Cook ran the company and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► Sheryl Sandberg has that same role was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► Zuckerberg can focus is his time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► entirely on product and she handles yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► this other stuff that needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► handled when you're as big an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► influential is as Facebook and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59 ◼   ► advantage for those people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► charged with the innovation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► developing the products that they get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► think about things that are important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► them and you know there's a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► that about running a company that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► people like that don't want to do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14 ◼   ► so they're they're essential in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► regard right that the right they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► know that you know they're the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► keep the machine running and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:25 ◼   ► that's probably a more appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► person to send to a meeting with Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► then you know somebody whose innovative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► and passionate and potentially going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► say something that's damaging to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► here is that this so that I i wrote this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► and I don't like to try it out the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► if steve jobs were still around thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► too often because i think can be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► overused but i do O God that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► been beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:54 ◼   ► well when I had a hot-headed I had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► interesting discussion with on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► about it and I you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► everybody i was it is me and matt trance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► and dr. wave from pixar couple other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:09 ◼   ► people and I think we were all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► complete agreement that if steve jobs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► the alternate universe where steve jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► you know was still healthy and was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17 ◼   ► at apple if if he were at that meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► it would have been fascinating at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► as soon as the press left the room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► then there were reports i will add that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► there were reports that that two of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► attendees cook and mosque got private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► meetings with Trump afterwards so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► the fireworks would have happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► that meeting if Steve Jobs had a private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► meeting with Trump but there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► absolutely no way I don't you know damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► the torpedoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► there is no way Steve Jobs was Cal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► telling to trump know and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► he'll count-out either now I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► Terrance if I think the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► was that could bite his tongue and Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► Jobs couldn't I think that's one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► about and that's one thing about the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► of the passion that's involved with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► innovation right that's a much harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► thing to hold it back Tim Cook you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► he's a guy who negotiates contracts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► stuff he knows when to shut up but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► great there's a good chance and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► doctor wave and rents I think agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► that even in the alternate universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► where steve jobs is still an apple Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► was the one who would go to that meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► yesterday with the channel Sandberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:25 ◼   ► exactly yeah no no doubt in my mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► that would happen because you know Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29 ◼   ► Jobs is with self-aware enough to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31 ◼   ► that yes he had that streak and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► streak can be used for good it can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► be used for evil right and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► that's well and at what it's got watchin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45 ◼   ► you watchin on the part of apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► then on the other hand i also think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► would have been a strategy strategic way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51 ◼   ► to not give Trump what he wanted which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► is that I mean Tim Cook is well no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► mean how yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► yes the biggest you know the company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► very well known but he's nowhere near as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03 ◼   ► famous as Steve Jobs ya know where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► have a day before Kanye West was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07 ◼   ► a meeting with them right that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► that's the level of person and he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► to be associated with right day if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► you paid gallop to you know go around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► the country and and get a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► 10,000 random people and ask them who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► Tim Cook is your I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► awareness is it certainly higher than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► most people and most CEOs but if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► them who steve jobs is it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► it's practically up at like Walt Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► levels right yeah they could describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32 ◼   ► what it looks like and yeah assist yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► that's right they're not serving not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► sending Steve Jobs would have been a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40 ◼   ► to sort of lesson apples involvement in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► the dog-and-pony show of it we're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► nation doesn't really right yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► don't really do anything and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► that it's a little bit of a way to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► Trump the finger to write you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► no no we're not sending our best person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► we're sending our second best person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55 ◼   ► Bezos what Bezos was there Jenny you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1435">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► said Jimmy Jimmy Romney from IBM Larry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03 ◼   ► Page Google had two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► well alphabet and whatever Larry Page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► what's his name smit area of it yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► Microsoft head to a satya nadella and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► then Brad whatever-his-name-is their CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19 ◼   ► it was weird that Microsoft got google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:23 ◼   ► got to an apple only got one and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► wonder if that was by choice if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► you know had no cookies like now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30 ◼   ► don't need another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► yeah I thought that's why i say i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► interesting to know if you know how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► list of people was chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39 ◼   ► alright that's why did they sort of self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► choose or were they asked specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► like that we want these companies get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► invitation and they got to choose who to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► go over the end of invitations to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► probably just to the company's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52 ◼   ► it looks like there are fixed number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► seats around that table and that table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55 ◼   ► time it dictated how many people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1495">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► going to be there so you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02 ◼   ► that's it maybe that's why Jack Dorsey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► wasn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► they're just didn't know was another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► seat you know you don't know I suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► not that him the the vindictive angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► coming out there's two things though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► there's a cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:15 ◼   ► there's a couple angles on that one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► angle in favor of Dorsey being there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► would be that Trump has made more use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21 ◼   ► Twitter far more than he did facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► I mean and it's I mean I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► it's close to 90 feet you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28 ◼   ► campaign has a presence on on facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30 ◼   ► but personally he's all Twitter it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► his facebook feed is not on Bloomberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35 ◼   ► his twitter feed is on the right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► it that's the bottom line right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► other thing too is it does seem there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► a case to be made I think gabe gabe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► rivera made it first he's Gabe is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► guy who runs the the excellent Technium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► at a news aggregator that it seems as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:55 ◼   ► though the invitation list was sorted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► order of market cap that it was just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► you know in terms of who got invited or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► not it's the you know six or seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05 ◼   ► biggest by market cap tech companies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► by that measure twitter isn't even close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► because their stock is deeply depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► I mean there it's done it and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► not even in the ballpark if there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► cap and in their remarks in in Trump's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► own remarks at the meeting he even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► mentioned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► you know his way of bragging about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24 ◼   ► meeting was it he said he didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► talk about the he wasn't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► mention the hundreds of companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► called asking for a seat at this table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► and that they were wondering that Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► meeting Peter teal kept saying no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► they're too small they're too small that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37 ◼   ► that and small meeting market cap i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► think you know so that was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► measured right so I don't buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► measure Twitter had no chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► yeah that's so they were measuring buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► influence they were measuring by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► money what is that smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► I don't know anyone that good you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53 ◼   ► kind of goes back to the bend Thompson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► point right and I like the smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► companies are often the ones that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► even more interesting stuff and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► stuff that affects the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► yeah and then your eyes the economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► forward over well in the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► certainly shouldn't play a central role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► in determining the anyone else the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► story that came out was that the twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► did not get invited because of its had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► dispute from the summer that Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► sells these things called branded emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► well they call branded emoji we can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► can go on our side rant about the use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► emoji and that context in a moment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► the gist of it is that a sponsor can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► a hashtag and then when people tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33 ◼   ► that hashtag they automatically get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► emoji are little sticker an illustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:41 ◼   ► behind it so for example right now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► you tweet the hashtag rogue one you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► a little death star image after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► thing that I wasn't aware of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► because i like anybody with any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► who their taste i use a third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► twitter client on everywhere all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► about everywhere and these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► only visible and Twitter zone to twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► apps and this stupid ass ugly Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► website so i wasn't aware of this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► apparently over the summer the Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► campaign wanted to buy one for hashtag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► crooked Hillary and oh who even knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► what the icon would have been I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► they said they wanted to be a bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► money flying away or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► and Twitter a declined to accept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► sponsorship apparently Jack maybe Jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► Dorsey himself put the pics on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► that the Trump campaign hasn't forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► hey I don't think that's it i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► that it i'm sure it didn't help because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► i think they are vindictive and petty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:47 ◼   ► people but I don't really I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► the market cap ankle is a bigger one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► I think yeah if it now that you mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► that it's probably a Peter teal had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► influence on was at that table then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► from yourself it's it really sounded it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► sounded like Trump stoner marks that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► was really largely just you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► was a list of finalists and Trump random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► by T land till said yes yes no no no yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► dark or vice versa right maybe tail at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► the way after more like it sounded more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► like it was till he was given the s's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► know that I mean obviously if trumpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► said i want i want Twitter it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► happen but yea Aztec people we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► different view on all this you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► like it's like this this Russian hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► it's like you know that to me is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► you know it's really first hint of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► was like oh yeah because anybody has run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40 ◼   ► a server the scene you know IP addresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► from you know the Eastern Bloc taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► our servers you know looking for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► know WP login pages PHP my man in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► artistic just like they're just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► looking for ways into what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► and and you know that that that you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► the effectively presidential election is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► just you know a good meeting you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► back to the fairness argument you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► how in the hell is that fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► did you see that a among all of the just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► like series of unfortunate events that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► all just happened to break the wrong way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► for the Clinton campaign and yeah one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► thing after another and that just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► broke the wrong way but one of them was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34 ◼   ► that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► John Podesta got the phishing email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► it was forwarded on to somebody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► what's going on with this and the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43 ◼   ► on the staff who you know evaluated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► wanted to write back this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► this email is illegitimate John should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► change his password immediately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► instead wrote inadvertently this email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56 ◼   ► is legitimate John should changes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► almost immediately and so apparently he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► because it said that he used the link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► the email to change his password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► alright and that this person who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► made this mistake and wrote legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10 ◼   ► where they wanted to write illegitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► ah yeah it's a couple letters on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► keyboard that we've all right made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► mistake with right is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► heartbroken and as apparently is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► apparently crushed and I lang and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29 ◼   ► know that the flip side of it okay yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► they they hacked the Democrats well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► do you think they hacked the Republicans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► to there's it widely it's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► actually you know they haven't leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► but it's a taxi i mean this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► speculation a text ya at that depth me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► is leverage and blackmail and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► other nasty shit so you know this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► know that that this is an issue it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► clearly a nonpartisan issue right after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► the the chills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► yes it should be and if you try to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► that this is all the Democrats are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► you know sour grapes like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► now this is this affects everybody right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► this is you know again it goes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► the fairness the others that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► government should be a level playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► field yes there are two teams right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► they compete against each other right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► the 50 fucking playing field is level we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► got a problem and I don't want to be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27 ◼   ► histrionic about it but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► fundamentally come down to whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► parties see themselves as two opposing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► parties within one nation or they view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► each other as their enemies and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► Democrats clearly still see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► Republicans as their opposition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► Republicans see the Democrats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► as their enemy and yet and that's again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► I don't mean to be histrionic it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► if you if you happen to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► conservative bent you think that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► just me being a liberal you can see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► in the polls where a poll came out today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► of what's your net positive or negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► on the following people and they asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► Reports survey of the Republicans in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► United States it was like barack obama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► was a negative 64 net- Hillary Clinton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► was a net negative 77 and the latter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18 ◼   ► mere Putin was negative 10 right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► latin beauty is is 54 points more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► popular among Republicans than Barack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► Obama i mean it's it's no joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► you're kidding or exaggeration that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35 ◼   ► Republican Party largely sees the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:39 ◼   ► Democrats is more of their enemy then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► they do the Russian which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► especially for people of our age where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► the Americans will have who were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► hardline realists ok so i'm just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► to i was just going to say and I ronald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► reagan is rolling over in his grave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► well as a kid and a teenager when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► first you know became politically aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► and I was a news junkie I I viewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► myself more as a republican a democrat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► because I thought that the Republicans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► were the party of a on Adina to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► succinctly the party of the cold hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► truth and that the Democrats were more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► of saw what they wished for a party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► mhm you know and that the the main issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► at the time wasn't something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► climate change or a few other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► where it comes out but climate change is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► a perfect example today where one party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► is looking at facts and the other party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► is just believing what they want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► true but at the time the preeminent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► issue was the Cold War because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► you know hey if this turns out poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► every world network squared yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► looks like they're all that is it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► game with no winners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► yeah and it seemed to me like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► Republicans where the why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► history has shown it to be true that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► Republicans were the ones who look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► at it with it you know old cold hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► facts half right so it's ridiculous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► me that they've now become the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► that's like russia's good people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► well maybe they are good people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► Russian government leadership God good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► yeah it's and it's kind of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► that that they have to you know the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► it's a win-at-all-costs kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► situation for them right and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► others visited that the problem I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► is that those costs are going up in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► that hurt our society and hurt our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► government now I mean well I wanted i'ma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► time at odds with many people in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► family now because of this i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► that's not a lot of people and I socks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► do but you know they had to vote for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► Republican person because you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► and in it and the fact that that is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► know that the people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► celebrating it at the Trump when include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► the Ku Klux Klan and in evangelical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► Christians in the same group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► I mean what is wrong there alright well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► you get start to get the feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► maybe the evangelical Christian based me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► maybe Christianity isn't that you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:26 ◼   ► started to think maybe it's not their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► top priority our faith that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► inherently good were screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► well let me use that as a segue to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:39 ◼   ► about Harry's razors this is alec this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► shows coming out tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► december 16 this is a gift that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► get you've got time if you're listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► to this show tonight on the sixteenth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► you can even still get ground shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► after tonight you're gonna have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► for air shipping but you can get this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57 ◼   ► a gift for the holidays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► still you got act hope you're listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► to the show while it's hot off the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02 ◼   ► you know pressed onto the 45 record or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► ever used to listen to the show but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► you act quick you can do it you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► to Harry's calm and get an order in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► now why would this make a good gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► well one of the reasons is it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► product i've said this before they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20 ◼   ► nice handles really really great nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► blades they own their own razor blade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► factory this is how they get the prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► down this is how they keep the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► of their not just like buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► white-label razor blades and putting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► Harry's name on them they own a razor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► blade factory over in Germany that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► make their own there's no middlemen no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► distributors no no markup on the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► 22 retail it's just they make them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► package them they sell them to you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► it's a great product and they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► good shaving cream and and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► that they've got what i have here a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► limited edition set if you haven't heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► of them before you can get this set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► comes with the razor handle of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► shaving cream replacement blades and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► nice little travel cover they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► something called The Winston set that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06 ◼   ► includes an engravable chrome handle if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► you want to add a personalized touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► other reason these things make a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► gift is that the packaging is so nice so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► you can wrap this up and when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► open it it's not like you sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► you're giving him one of these blister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► pack razor blades that you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► drugstore where it looks you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► looks like you've bought them like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► nice thing like you even if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:28 ◼   ► even know what's inside it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► this cool box it's it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► blister pack where you got to go get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► razor blade just to open the damn thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► up an icebox with a nice lid I've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► before it's the type of packaging it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► so good that I feel bad throwing it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► and I have to defeat my sort of natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► inclination to be a pack rat and keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► like why in the world would I keep an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► empty box that had razor blades in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► stupid but it's so nice i always paint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► me as I toss it into the the bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► trashcan a great great product so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► you're listening tonight if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► still get ground shipping otherwise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► know you gotta you gotta pay for air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► shipping if you want to get this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► gift but you can go to Harry's dot-com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07 ◼   ► and you can use the code talk show just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► plain talk show know the and you'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► five bucks off you're at if you use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► code at checkout talk show know the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► harrods.com go there check it out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► you've got anybody on your list needs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► last-minute gift you can already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► happened and get that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► my thanks to them great product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► alright I'm done talking about politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► let's have fun yeah this is like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► Trump's office storm stuff is no fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:35 ◼   ► well it's no fun but we gotta deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► it but I gotta deal with you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► your head in the sand and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► reason why I think that's the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:41 ◼   ► think I just a red put a bow on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► topic that's the reason why i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45 ◼   ► was right the tim cook and jeff bezos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► and satya nadella and whoever else went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► to the meeting you can put your head in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► the sand you can't just put your fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► in your ears and go lalala [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55 ◼   ► you know I don't want this guy to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► president you gotta look at it you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► stare right in the eyes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01 ◼   ► pretending that it didn't happen exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► stay angry and don't let it get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► normalized because this is not normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► no matter you know what anybody says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10 ◼   ► it's all you know he'll it will all play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► out well it's like no this is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► to play out well I just hope not I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► we're around in four years to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► another election because you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► used you see the shit happening with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► know China right now it's like oh jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► this is not where we want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► it's like yeah so for my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► generation that happened in Cuba right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31 ◼   ► then and then people freaked out well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► hey guess what it's this generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37 ◼   ► chance to have that little freakout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► moment yet let's not talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► politics anymore i've got one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► that's even less fun it's even less fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► than Trump and I have to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► no fun at all it's super mario run came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50 ◼   ► out and my god it's got an in-app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► purchase oh my god so everyone came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00 ◼   ► here's how it works i think it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► mystery i don't think it was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► how exactly it i think i think we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► was that it was going to be a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07 ◼   ► download with a couple levels to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► for free and then you have to buy it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10 ◼   ► way it works is free download you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► three levels to play after that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15 ◼   ► to buy it and it's ten bucks but the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► that they're doing the in-app purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► such that the 10 boxes per device i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► think i don't think i think if i had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► ipad i think I'd stuff that I've heard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► complaint from my colleagues shawnee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► birds said that he had to buy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► himself and his three kids got it he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► got three boys that want to play it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36 ◼   ► and you know it's a forty-dollar game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► for him now from Nintendo's perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► that's the way it's always worked right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► if you if you have a 3ds and your kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► have a 3ds and you want to play this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48 ◼   ► game you could you at the same time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► could you don't have to buy your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► version of it now it when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► cartridges you could like share the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► cartridge but then only one of you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59 ◼   ► play it at a time and there's no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► do that with in-app purchase you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► have an in-app purchase that says your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► whole family can use this app but only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► one of you can use it at a time just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► doesn't work that way so from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► nintendos perspective this isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► unusual and they don't sell ten dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:16 ◼   ► games for the 3ds this would be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► forty or fifty dollar game for the 3ds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► but on the other hand before anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► even says it and writes to me don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► write to me i understand that even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► the purchase this entire game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► probably less expensive than a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► 3ds game that it's smaller whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► can't get 10 boxes so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► honestly I do get it and that family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► sharing we use it we do we got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► stuff on the family sharing here in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► particular case I I can't blame it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► want intended to make money on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► I do yeah I i I'd love to see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► game developers make money but yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52 ◼   ► argument from me that ten dollars is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► per-device is a premium price for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► iphone game but honestly I've played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► this game for a day now it's a premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► game it is a premium game so yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03 ◼   ► can and the the book problem right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► though is that there are a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► who have been indoctrinated into the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09 ◼   ► all i can earn coins to to get what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► want right it shouldn't cost me anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► and they're the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► complaining about you know just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► game right at the I mean we all love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► is as developers we would all love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► people just paid for the thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► that's what we all want just just spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► your money if you like it buy it and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► instead we're jumping through all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35 ◼   ► hoops you know doing you know things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► that make people look like they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► spending money because we call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► coins instead of dollars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► you know it's it's all you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► deception and and let's just forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48 ◼   ► about that and kudos to to the handover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► just say hey it's going to cost you ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► dollars deal with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► yeah and the three levels that they let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► you play before you are asked for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00 ◼   ► nickel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► I think are indicative of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05 ◼   ► gameplay and they even show you on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► there's like when you complete a level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► they show you that there's six worlds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► four levels each and so you get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► the first three levels of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► world before you have to pay to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► you both have it you both have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► fair idea of what the game is like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► play and you also have a very fair idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► of how much is unlocked right when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:30 ◼   ► pay the 10 bucks you do that to me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► very fair deal and I think it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► again I you know and if you've got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► know somebody's out there surely has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► three or four kids you know and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42 ◼   ► like hey it's you know you tell me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► sixty dollar purchase for my kids and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► wife and I to play this I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► that you know that that's pretty lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► a lot of money for iphone game but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:54 ◼   ► know I it i'd much rather have nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► doing this and having it as a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► upfront price than to see Nintendo's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► come to the you know keep putting two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04 ◼   ► dollars in to buy a bag of coins to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► going you know where to alright get past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► this log jam you know this level is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► all intent intent and purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► unbeatable unless you've got a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► coins and you can only really have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17 ◼   ► thousand coins if you pay us three bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► right where go watch a bunch ads or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23 ◼   ► whatever the hell these other games make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► you do it's you know it's not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27 ◼   ► and I think it's you know and it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► that somebody I i know i'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► die-hard gamer and probably the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► actually probably spend a lot less time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:35 ◼   ► playing video games than the average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► person my age and probably for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► who's interested in technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► computers way I'm probably way at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43 ◼   ► bottom in terms of how much time I spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► playing games i get the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► you're probably the same as me i went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► my childhood before nintendo became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► i I don't I don't get mario or any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► that whole eighties gaming thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► the nominating I was you know 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► old and had become an adult life so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► it a different story for you to all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► not only would a friend of mine having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► sorry but you know it's just the pong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12 ◼   ► and all the other kinda crappy games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:15 ◼   ► and you know at the same time that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► was happening I was also discovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► computers so it's like I could write my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► own computer games why the hell am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► sitting in front of the TV e fiddling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► with this little dial that's like calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► and I got I got a basic interpreter this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► is way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► right i understand the feeling exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► yeah i could be making something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► that's this date and I'm glad it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► happened that way it made you know made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► me who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► yeah I have an on/off I've never been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45 ◼   ► huge Nintendo fan I never like I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► like the NES and I went in my college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► years there was the at this is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► n64 super nintendo super nintendo was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► the one of the early nineties early and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► mid nineties i had a Sega Genesis which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► was I thought the superior system at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► least for the type of games i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► play like John Madden football and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09 ◼   ► the NHL hockey game and Sega's version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► of mario was Sonic the Hedgehog em right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18 ◼   ► here's the 22 d scroller i did have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► n64 which I liked a lot later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► probably the last console I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► played a lot although i guess i had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► original xbox too i played that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► sometimes how old were you when your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► as a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► well when what how old were you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36 ◼   ► you're playing these games Sega Genesis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► was my college years so that archaic 91 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► 296 right roughly that was a 32-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► system i was at 16 years yeah you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49 ◼   ► that its you're sending a dorm room with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► the its up thing to party with right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► yeah exactly it was a dorm was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► room thing and it's partly because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2875">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► the EA sports games I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03 ◼   ► that they had them for Nintendo's Super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► Nintendo and if they did they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► inferior like that the Sega Genesis was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10 ◼   ► sports games and that was what we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► played each other and that was what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14 ◼   ► played non-stop and 64 was good though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► there was this gold my game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► anybody who had it knows exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► I'm talking about and anybody that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► at 3d shooter and you'd play you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► play against your roommate and it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► split screen so you each got like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► split the screen it because it was a 423 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► screen it was African if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► horizontal and you've got like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37 ◼   ► wide angle thing or if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► side-to-side i think it was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► forget true story to story I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► roommate my first year after college I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► had a roommate a Don and we played we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► had an n64 and that was when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► PlayStation first came out the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► playstation and what we used to do was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► rent video games you could go to be how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► to get a disk so you'd go to blockbuster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► and you could rent a game for four days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► for I don't know five bucks four bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► way cheaper than buying $60 games right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► we didn't have the money to buy a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12 ◼   ► of 64 games the renting thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14 ◼   ► awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► so we have an n64 you basically it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► binge on the game and you know you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► you're getting that the the content for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23 ◼   ► that so go to blog we'd go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► blockbuster and you look and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► PlayStation section had all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► awesome games like at the time realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:35 ◼   ► car racing games and shooters and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► these awesome games and then a nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► section had like seven titles and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► of them for like four little kids but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► then goldeneye came out and goldeneye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► fixed everything in fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► effectively are n64 turned into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► dedicated golden-eyed box it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► one player game it had this a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► campaign where you played James Bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► going through the gold movie scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03 ◼   ► really good first part you know 1 player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► mode and then the two-player thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► just unbelievably fun unbelievably fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:12 ◼   ► and eventually I got just every was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14 ◼   ► of the only games i ever got pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► at and I i got ever so slightly better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18 ◼   ► than Don was like this is after maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► whole year of playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:21 ◼   ► and I was always a fraction of a section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► a second quicker than him and it got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► the point where he couldn't be here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► used to be like 50 50 and it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► somehow gained like i leveled up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32 ◼   ► little bit and he couldn't beat me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► one time me through this controller out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35 ◼   ► the window and we lived on the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► floor and divine help control our but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► was the most satisfying victory ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43 ◼   ► right and look at be more satisfying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► making your friend throw his controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► out the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► yeah but that point you're pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49 ◼   ► done with the game right because the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► that you can never win again and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► know it's like okay my play you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► anyway then my other experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58 ◼   ► nintendo's we had the wii the one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00 ◼   ► first you know not the we don't ya gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► get the week was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► not that the one where he did have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► big basically the physical games are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► right right it's just got people moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► around i thought that was right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13 ◼   ► that was how John learn to play video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► games we had that when he was I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► know three or four or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► that and that's a little like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► another one where you can throw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► controller but not necessarily because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► um it right we have these we have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► weird Jonas I laugh about it is Jonas is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► very much into video games now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31 ◼   ► almost 13 is that when he first started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:35 ◼   ► playing there's a great great series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37 ◼   ► games these Lego games where you play as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► a lego character from like movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► you go through and you know like the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► that we play that was the first one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► the lego star wars and you dis game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► it had all six of the original Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► movies meaning the first three from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► know the eighties then the prequels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► II each one was broken up into six like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► adventure so you had 36 adventures to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► through from all of the Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► and you just play as two characters at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► the same time on screen and you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► through and smash things up and take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12 ◼   ► bricks and rebuild them into other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► things and it was very very good just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16 ◼   ► very fun very very kid friendly but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► fun for me as an adult to play too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► the funny thing was that when we first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► are playing out of Genesis three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► probably around four was that and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► sort of i can I so what's a isomorphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► pretty perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► isometric right yeah isometric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► perspective the game and it Jonas just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► had tremendous trouble like if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► to walk on it you had to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► terrible all accounts catwalk diagonally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► right I not even like a tightrope but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► you know but like a a three-character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49 ◼   ► wide catwalk that was at a 45-degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52 ◼   ► angle he would just keep falling off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► it's one of these games read you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► we did you probably didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► spatial capabilities in his brain right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that's just the right being able to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01 ◼   ► to project that into right it is mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► yeah and if I transferred into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► movement with his thumb right right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10 ◼   ► it's one of these games are one of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► part of that part of what made it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► much fun to play with a little kid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► that you you never you don't run out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► lives and have to start the level over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► every time you die you just lose some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► the coins you picked up and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23 ◼   ► shoot you back to you know 15 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► five feet away from where you died you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► just keep responding and Udall you lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► our these coins and when you finish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► level with the most coins it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► accomplishment so you know you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► know finishing without buying which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► gives you more coins so there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39 ◼   ► advantage to not dying but you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► actually like have to start the level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► her but there would be a certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► where he just basically could navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► and Italy I think I'm a pretty patient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► father but eventually it's like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► give me that give me that haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► dad's gonna help you out here right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► it wasn't like getting in past like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► boss you know villain it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► getting him through like a very narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► hard to navigate little thing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► just very it's very comical now when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► try to play video games with him because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► he's actually the opposite yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► gonna say kick these kicking your ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► now right cause including on he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► nice i could reflect your reflexes ya s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► what was it was a lego game like lego [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► batman or something like that and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► like I'll play that with you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► started playing and it was clear that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► was holding up that right anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► know he loves you and everything we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► about your feelings but he's like dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► just just well I was like remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38 ◼   ► you'd be the one holding me back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► he'd be if he laughs he had a good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► yeah but it was very clear that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► the one holding him back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45 ◼   ► anyway I wish nintendo the best i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48 ◼   ► they're going to do very well with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► complaints about the prices side it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► seem like they're being very aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► on the trying to keep the whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► countermeasures they've taken against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► piracy it seems like they've done quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02 ◼   ► a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:02 ◼   ► one of them being and here's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► that's going to affect honest people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► most is the game does not play if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► don't have a network connection i tested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► it is very true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► like if you turn on airplane mode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13 ◼   ► try to start the game it says look you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► know try to move this trying to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► somewhere where you have a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► network connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19 ◼   ► oh that's not gonna that's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► play out well I mean it soon as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► you know it's like on launch day you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► not going to notice that but over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► you know you're going to be one even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► played in that in the subway on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► airplane airplane right yeah well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► it's funny people have even pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► that the announcement miyamoto even said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► because it's totally playable one-handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► that it's great to play in the subway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► now maybe and I know maybe he's thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► of I don't know I've never been to Tokyo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► but maybe tokyo i wouldn't be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► if it is one of those cities with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► yes you have are you be good cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► yeah I noticed the last time up last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► trip to WTC that the tercel service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► barknow you know from the airport to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► downtown you pretty much have a network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► connection all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► alright but when this witness news came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► out that the game doesn't work without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► network connection a bunch of readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► wrote to me and just said well my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► you know has a ipod touch or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► that the the ipod touch that an awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► lot of kids have is a two or three-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► old iphone that doesn't have a sim card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► you know just a hand-me-down here's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► you know this was dad's iphone from two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► just take the self just take the sim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► card out and you've got a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► hand-me-down ipod touch and entices yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► and a car trips that's another it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► know yeah that's it that's exactly it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42 ◼   ► you want it in then ok ok where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► to set up a Wi-Fi hotspot just the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► complain intend oh right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► it's like thanks right let's drain mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► and dad's batteries so we can play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► and I saw something about the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► the game has a lot of it doesn't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02 ◼   ► run on a lot of jail Brooks it seems I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► which he only makes me think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► nintendo is specifically looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10 ◼   ► signs of common jailbreaks and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► refusing to run how they cannot do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► that's actually hard thing to do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► sandbox use the Apple might've looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► the other way I one of these things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► don't know i don't want to know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► not knowing how it works or anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► month that would be my first reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► it's like maybe there's my other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► question or eight other questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► it's it is iOS exclusive right now it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:40 ◼   ► apparently coming to android eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► how long do you think until it comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► on Android and be a google will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► want to use it like Apple did is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► to to promote new software release or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52 ◼   ► something like that i could see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► happening at the next io or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► just forget I wonder if they played well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► at the iphone 7 launched it will play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► well at some google launched so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► that that would be your answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06 ◼   ► so maybe like six months I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08 ◼   ► what is it was in six months I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► yeah who knows I mean it's that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► half-life for games these days pretty a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► pretty insane it's it's like a Pokemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► go right middle of summer it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► everywhere attacking you know we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24 ◼   ► back down to the beach where do i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► every day it's like there's just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► tree that everybody standing under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► because that shade and pokemon terms & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► Company kind of funny is like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36 ◼   ► walked my idea of the pokemon spotting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► on and you know you talk to people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40 ◼   ► yeah I'm late for them you know the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► or whatever it is and oh my god I saw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► thing on something on Twitter I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► had had it but it was the gist of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► somebody was like oh my god I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► believe they had to put the sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► somebody was in like a museum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► oh yeah or something and it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:56 ◼   ► part where they were showing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► something really grave and serious it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► was like relics from a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:02 ◼   ► concentration camp or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► that you know something really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06 ◼   ► grave and serious you know like here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08 ◼   ► bunch of artifacts from some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:09 ◼   ► internment camp early i don't think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► the Holocaust but something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14 ◼   ► we're like a bunch of people were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► know political no prisoners and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► people died and went on a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► there's a sign up that said please no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:24 ◼   ► pokemon go right like because that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► can only imagine like a sign like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► doesn't go up unless people were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31 ◼   ► yeah I know like some ya ever hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► they're reacting to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34 ◼   ► yeah right I you know I thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37 ◼   ► don't want it in it in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39 ◼   ► summer I was but one of the thoughts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► had was like that you what happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:42 ◼   ► it gets cold at all these people going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44 ◼   ► out hunting for pokemon what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► going to do when it's you know raining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► or snowing or you know middle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► hurricane or whatever and it's like em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► you know so that they watched that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55 ◼   ► really good time and you know maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► the expectation that it is going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► six great months and then who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► I think we're in the who knows right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08 ◼   ► and I think you know maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► Mario on iOS is going to be the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13 ◼   ► I suspect or not it's there's a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:17 ◼   ► be said for that brand same is true with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:20 ◼   ► pokemon there you know this huge Brandt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► a lot of the nostalgia and that brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► I mean that's just you know the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► that you were you know talking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► know all your past consoles and games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31 ◼   ► you played I mean that's it doesn't it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► nostalgia is a powerful thing and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► that's it in it it's it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► too that that that Mario is is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► nostalgic that's getting passed on right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► there there's a there's a generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49 ◼   ► kids now that we're going to grow up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► their first encounter with Mario is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:54 ◼   ► going to be you know on their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56 ◼   ► iphone their ipad there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58 ◼   ► I know ipod touch you know that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► their beginning and working over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05 ◼   ► yeah the comparison i think is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► and it's it's obvious one that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10 ◼   ► thousand people have made before is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► mickey mouse and the Donald Duck and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► know the whole gang of characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► is you know so old that the disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► literally has to keep petitioning the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► federal government to keep extending the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► copyright expiration date because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► they're sold that they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► already passed into the public domain by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► now and yet are completely relevant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35 ◼   ► popular and and a good source of revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:38 ◼   ► right now get me that whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► to be popular for a reason right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45 ◼   ► well in one reason one reason why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► they remain popular is that even under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► Walt Disney I think it started with Walt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► was don't be afraid to move them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53 ◼   ► new media just keep keep going up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:57 ◼   ► technology don't don't don't say will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► make he's a movie star so he's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► going to be on TV now we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02 ◼   ► have a TV show and and you know get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:05 ◼   ► everybody to watch it is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► favorite stories and it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07 ◼   ► best comparisons between Walt Disney and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► steve jobs that I've ever seen was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► he was so willing to let go of the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:14 ◼   ► and always hungry for the future which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► was the it goes against human nature i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19 ◼   ► mean it even ties back to our discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► on trumpet those tech leaders and Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► seeing his job as president as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► protecting the current top companies as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:28 ◼   ► opposed to just keeping it fair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► letting the revolution happened you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► Walt was you know in the fifties when TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34 ◼   ► started becoming thing the movie studios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37 ◼   ► were totally disdainful of television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► and saw it as a lesser medium I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42 ◼   ► saw that until it really up until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45 ◼   ► just a handful of years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► we're being a an actor in the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49 ◼   ► with c is seen as way more serious than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52 ◼   ► being an actor and TV it really took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:53 ◼   ► until the last handful of years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55 ◼   ► shows like The Sopranos and madmen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:59 ◼   ► West world where people & Game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► Thrones where people see TV is being as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04 ◼   ► good or even better than movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► yeah Walt Disney unlike all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:08 ◼   ► hollywood studios the other Holly do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► the way that Hollywood attack the TV was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:11 ◼   ► by my and part of it is cool i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► cinema scope and seventy millimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► prince is that that's when TV that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► when movies switched from the 43 aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:21 ◼   ► ratio 1699 and bigger the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► CinemaScope 2.1 a wide screen and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► built bigger screens that had curves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30 ◼   ► they start shooting in 70 millimeter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:33 ◼   ► was ok you want to have a little dinky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► rinky-dink you know 19-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► black-and-white display with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► static on it while we're gonna you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41 ◼   ► start shooting in color and we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:42 ◼   ► to make it bigger and that's a fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► response but it certainly didn't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► the march of progress with TV walt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47 ◼   ► disney on the other hand was like will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► keep making movies but hell yeah I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51 ◼   ► to I want to be I want mickey mouse on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53 ◼   ► that TV hit I've always loved that quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► of his where you know he he made movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► so they could make more movies right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00 ◼   ► thought the know he made her so he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02 ◼   ► exactly made money on movies so that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► could make more movies and that's TV was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► just another way for him to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► to make more cool things right right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► that's why don't you know we don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► dentists in intent i hope they do really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► well on an iOS because if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17 ◼   ► they're going to do more and then pray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20 ◼   ► don't make we don't make movies to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► money we make money to make movies there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► any minute you know ya roll your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:27 ◼   ► 30-minute right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:28 ◼   ► I don't find that in is a recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► announcement that Nintendo assigned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► big big long-term deal with universal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► get a like nintendo world into universal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► theme parks around the world sir makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► that which i am i'm looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44 ◼   ► tremendously I don't you probably never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► been there but the universal in Florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:49 ◼   ► they have a big i don't know i got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51 ◼   ► billion-dollar deal with the harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53 ◼   ► potter franchise right I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54 ◼   ► pictures that I've never been there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56 ◼   ► yeah it's and it looks great i mean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► we love nostalgia we were mad men fan a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► wife wants to show mad mad mailman ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:08 ◼   ► ever watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► yeah yeah well they're right of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► got Don Draper and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15 ◼   ► probably where I got that from nostalgia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► its delicate but potent and he told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21 ◼   ► that in Greek nostalgia literally means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► the pain from an old wound it's a twinge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:27 ◼   ► in your heart for more more powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:30 ◼   ► than memory alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► that's the statue yeah that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► yeah that's the one with the kodak slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:41 ◼   ► yeah it's really thats that it's it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43 ◼   ► like the first season but it's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► the best asset and you know you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► that coat acting right that's that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► revolutionary at the time right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► we is you know kids growing up that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► like you know we didn't have I photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56 ◼   ► and sliding through you know we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► let's put up screen and stare at dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► slides well and another example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► company a company that lost its way by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► protecting what it had rather than its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:10 ◼   ► future they were making all their money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:11 ◼   ► from film and they were it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► absolutely astounding when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17 ◼   ► how many of the UH the foundations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► digital photography started at Kodak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► the people at you know in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► kodak padded the engineers who had all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► these digital camera technology is ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► to go you know and patted him on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33 ◼   ► head and said nice work boys but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► can't sell film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:36 ◼   ► yeah well pulling up or not selling any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38 ◼   ► film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:38 ◼   ► digital camera so you know keep that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► the labs but it was actually work out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► exactly is that actually Polaroid came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45 ◼   ► up with the first digital camera like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► why didn't you go down through with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► so to write Polaroid code acted so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► work on it and never took it to market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55 ◼   ► because it would have disrupted their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► own film business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► well bottom line xerox did the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00 ◼   ► thing right at that there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► line of companies that that we remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05 ◼   ► fondly because they didn't do what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:09 ◼   ► does which is you know kill your babies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:12 ◼   ► preaching to the choir here but it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14 ◼   ► 2006 the single most important product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16 ◼   ► that Apple computer made was their line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:19 ◼   ► of ipods and it was very clear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:22 ◼   ► anybody who looked at the iphone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:26 ◼   ► open eyes that well once you have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29 ◼   ► these you'll never buy an ipod again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:30 ◼   ► yeah except maybe the cheap no screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► one that you don't care about wearing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:35 ◼   ► the pool right now yeah and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37 ◼   ► make the company that right yeah the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► the same time I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44 ◼   ► appreciated how important that camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:47 ◼   ► was gonna be no we definitely definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► not because I mean the first camera was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51 ◼   ► like it's yeah it's better than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:55 ◼   ► that that feature phone I used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57 ◼   ► but yeah but barely take care of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00 ◼   ► ideas are barely hearing my DSLR around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► you know yeah I barely better write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05 ◼   ► was it was more convenient though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:06 ◼   ► was the thing that it was like ah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► instagram and all this other stuff took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:12 ◼   ► off because I said it's always there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► I just think that the the time nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:20 ◼   ► maybe even apple just didn't foresee how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22 ◼   ► quickly cameras that could fit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► space that was available theoretically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27 ◼   ► just you know however much have a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► space you want to vote into a iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32 ◼   ► sighs device to the camera how good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:36 ◼   ► image quality could be out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37 ◼   ► camera i just don't think anybody really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:38 ◼   ► foresaw with the next five years were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40 ◼   ► going to be the first one in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42 ◼   ► I've said this before on the show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:43 ◼   ► every every time it comes up I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45 ◼   ► don't think it even shot video and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47 ◼   ► I'm like no wait that's not possible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:48 ◼   ► then I looked it up and it's like yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► she didn't even shoot shitty video shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► you know your whatsoever and now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:56 ◼   ► know it doesn't even fit in the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► anymore and that's okay right not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:00 ◼   ► we've got the camera bulbs because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02 ◼   ► like it that it it's more important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04 ◼   ► have that good camera that i have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► cleanliness is ok I accept it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:10 ◼   ► it's a compromise right it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12 ◼   ► compromised but yes we would all love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:15 ◼   ► if that back was completely smooth but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18 ◼   ► we also love the fact that it's not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:22 ◼   ► have that's the one thing I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:23 ◼   ► what to think about with the pixel have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25 ◼   ► a google pixel and so Google pixels the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:28 ◼   ► googles just googles way around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► wasn't too happy they have no bump for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31 ◼   ► the camera on the back but the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► device is slightly wedge-shaped so down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:38 ◼   ► at the bottom it's then and that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40 ◼   ► that's the thinnest they like to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42 ◼   ► about and up by the camera it's thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► and there's no one point where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46 ◼   ► bold and it's not super it at a glance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:51 ◼   ► it's you can't even tell but in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53 ◼   ► hand it's obvious and it is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► top-heavy it i have mixed feelings about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57 ◼   ► that I do think just I don't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59 ◼   ► too deep on the camera bolt but I do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02 ◼   ► now that the iphone 7 has been in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04 ◼   ► hands for what three months october [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06 ◼   ► november december yeah about three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► months i do what two little things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:11 ◼   ► I really really like about it and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► people keep saying that it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16 ◼   ► industrial design but it's only at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18 ◼   ► glance the two little things that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20 ◼   ► really like number one I like that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22 ◼   ► camera bump is more of an honest camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24 ◼   ► bump right yeah it's absolutely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:28 ◼   ► hundred percent with you there it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► it it's it it looks like a bump right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:34 ◼   ► and it and it is a bump and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:37 ◼   ► still running those ads that show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39 ◼   ► hero shot of the shiny jet black iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► 7 plus where the this entire central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► focus of the hero shot is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► capsule sized camera bump on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52 ◼   ► like you know and it's perfectly lit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► glossy to highlight it and I just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► thinking that it's the complete opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59 ◼   ► of the original iphone 6 ads where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02 ◼   ► articles were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:03 ◼   ► apples product shots are hiding the bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:06 ◼   ► you know where they show that you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08 ◼   ► you had to hunt for it on the apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10 ◼   ► right in order to see it yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12 ◼   ► just that they just pretending it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► the other thing i really like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► can't explain why I like it so much is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19 ◼   ► that the volume buttons are no longer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► a channel on the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:25 ◼   ► they're just two buttons that stick out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27 ◼   ► of the side there used to be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► field yeah well but there are no i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:32 ◼   ► i think is very easy to locate for me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34 ◼   ► least that there's like there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36 ◼   ► little channel dug in and the gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38 ◼   ► between the two volume buttons was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:39 ◼   ► therefore more I don't know it just felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42 ◼   ► cheap to me on the iphone 6 and 6s in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► way that that that that really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48 ◼   ► volume buttons on this better but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► that's neither here nor there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52 ◼   ► quick quick question did you get the jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54 ◼   ► black yes i did you love it I love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:57 ◼   ► and I have I have I mean i-i've I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4317">TS</a>]

01:12:00 ◼   ► being able to carry a phone without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02 ◼   ► case again it's just like it's sticky in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04 ◼   ► my hand and that's all i wanted i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► you know yeah I got the micro operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08 ◼   ► like i holed up here to the light it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10 ◼   ► fine I can see him but I don't spend my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12 ◼   ► time looking at the back of the phone i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14 ◼   ► spend my time holding the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:15 ◼   ► phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:16 ◼   ► yeah it's just so clearly better there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18 ◼   ► yeah and i think that was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20 ◼   ► after three months of daily use i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22 ◼   ► tell i can project what it will look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:23 ◼   ► like after two years I mean I will only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:26 ◼   ► use it for one year but I mean it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28 ◼   ► somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:29 ◼   ► normal smart person would do and use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31 ◼   ► phone for at least two years it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33 ◼   ► look fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34 ◼   ► it's not gonna look perfect but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:35 ◼   ► fine and at a glance it still looks nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37 ◼   ► black and shiny but it's the feel of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40 ◼   ► the feel is so much greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:41 ◼   ► the other thing i can happily you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:42 ◼   ► going back to the weather that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44 ◼   ► question in September it was I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46 ◼   ► September when I first felt that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48 ◼   ► like this definitely feels better to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50 ◼   ► touch and amber was all wore month for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52 ◼   ► us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:53 ◼   ► sorry my hands are you know had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55 ◼   ► like you know it's warm hand now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57 ◼   ► it's freezing hold i can say it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59 ◼   ► feels better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4379">TS</a>]

01:12:59 ◼   ► even with very very cold hands it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:02 ◼   ► not slippery total win i recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:05 ◼   ► wholeheartedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:06 ◼   ► yeah it's not mean it like I said I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:09 ◼   ► so nice to be carrying a phone without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11 ◼   ► case anymore and that that was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13 ◼   ► reason I put it on my love my five and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:16 ◼   ► my six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:17 ◼   ► step is no longer simply said felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19 ◼   ► slippery and I really felt slippery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21 ◼   ► I got big hands right it's like an i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:24 ◼   ► think you know it shit that'll be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:27 ◼   ► easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:28 ◼   ► it's like it's for you holding a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30 ◼   ► is like a normal person holding like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32 ◼   ► matchbook it's easily just slips it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:36 ◼   ► know we have the the ipad mini is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38 ◼   ► right size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4418">TS</a>]

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01:13:58 ◼   ► it's great you just go there and 18 do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:01 ◼   ► any type of website you want it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03 ◼   ► absolutely amazing it really is more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:06 ◼   ► a software platform then like a hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:09 ◼   ► service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:10 ◼   ► it'sit's they do the hosting so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:13 ◼   ► go there and register your domain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► they they're the ones who take care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:15 ◼   ► hosting the server but it's so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:18 ◼   ► than it's not it it's not work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:21 ◼   ► you shouldn't think of Squarespace as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:22 ◼   ► web hosting provider that has wysiwyg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:25 ◼   ► stuff it really is a platform for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27 ◼   ► building websites sites look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29 ◼   ► professionally designed regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30 ◼   ► your skill level no coding required you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:33 ◼   ► can pick through a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:34 ◼   ► templates for like a blog you can host a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:38 ◼   ► podcast you could host a store you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:42 ◼   ► host a portfolio if you're like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:43 ◼   ► artist or a designer intuitive too easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:49 ◼   ► to use an easy-to-use tools but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51 ◼   ► want to get in there and modify the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54 ◼   ► you can do that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56 ◼   ► there's like a would even call an escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58 ◼   ► hatch but you can get out of the WYSIWYG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00 ◼   ► mode and inject your own code if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4500">TS</a>]

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01:21:51 ◼   ► daring fireball went when I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53 ◼   ► full-time with it the Amazon revenue was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55 ◼   ► it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57 ◼   ► it one of those like a multi it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59 ◼   ► it wasn't anybody and that's right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01 ◼   ► was never ever anywhere close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03 ◼   ► something I depended on but it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05 ◼   ► know a little bit was a little bit here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07 ◼   ► a little bit there a little bit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:08 ◼   ► and you know it contributed to its not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:11 ◼   ► its not paying your rent but it'll pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13 ◼   ► for a couple of good dinners every month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15 ◼   ► yeah right and the importance of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:18 ◼   ► revenue as a percentage of during finals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20 ◼   ► over revenue slipped every year and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:23 ◼   ► also started feeling in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:26 ◼   ► very recent years that it was maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:31 ◼   ► a great idea for me to put amazon links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:34 ◼   ► in there because amazon has become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36 ◼   ► of a company that are right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:37 ◼   ► editorially like I don't do conflict of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:41 ◼   ► a track i doing yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:45 ◼   ► it's just snow not a big way you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:47 ◼   ► but in a little way you know like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49 ◼   ► it's just a little better if if I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:52 ◼   ► and I i also thought this way when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:56 ◼   ► link at it so for years now I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:57 ◼   ► link to amazon without my code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4977">TS</a>]

01:23:01 ◼   ► usually every once in awhile i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:02 ◼   ► would help with it but I whenever I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04 ◼   ► it in i always feel like i should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06 ◼   ► and at sometimes I have said that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08 ◼   ► promotional you know put in parentheses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:09 ◼   ► that's a promotional link and i'll get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11 ◼   ► few percent of whatever it is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:14 ◼   ► buy if you click it but i haven't I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:17 ◼   ► just have just gotten away from it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19 ◼   ► my amazon affiliate revenue used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:22 ◼   ► maybe you know like a thousand dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24 ◼   ► month and sometimes maybe around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:25 ◼   ► Christmas like it would be like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:28 ◼   ► like I think I think the most ever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:30 ◼   ► maybe like three or four thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:31 ◼   ► dollars in a month for december because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33 ◼   ► i would put like a hey here's a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35 ◼   ► of top-selling holiday items and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37 ◼   ► click any of these links you'll build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38 ◼   ► this is maybe like 10 years ago eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40 ◼   ► nine ten years ago anyway long story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:44 ◼   ► short about two months ago I got a note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:47 ◼   ► from amazon an email that said that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:50 ◼   ► violated their claws by telling people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52 ◼   ► to click on a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:55 ◼   ► oh and and they've terminated my account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5035">TS</a>]

01:24:00 ◼   ► it was the and i searched there were no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:01 ◼   ► other way I never got a warning i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:04 ◼   ► ignore I mean it gets this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06 ◼   ► common for me i have so many unread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:07 ◼   ► emails it was one shot and done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:10 ◼   ► I'm out of the Amazon affiliate program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:13 ◼   ► yep they've done they want to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:15 ◼   ► click baiting right it's like well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:17 ◼   ► butt out but when do I thought when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:20 ◼   ► hell did I ever do that and i found one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22 ◼   ► article that was back in like 2004 maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:27 ◼   ► when i first started using amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29 ◼   ► affiliate and that what i did there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31 ◼   ► technically against and I guess against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33 ◼   ► the what they're saying I did but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35 ◼   ► a 2004 article and not one that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37 ◼   ► an evergreen very popular article that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:41 ◼   ► that people keep looking Lincoln I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43 ◼   ► sure that somehow they ran some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45 ◼   ► automated tool that uncovered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47 ◼   ► article but it was 12 years old or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:49 ◼   ► somebody didn't like something he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:52 ◼   ► and they went looking for something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54 ◼   ► maybe but I don't think so yeah doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57 ◼   ► strike me I never know then yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59 ◼   ► never know but it's it's gonna take them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:03 ◼   ► also lead to an eye on it right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:05 ◼   ► also device it's great you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:06 ◼   ► don't you know you got your sponsors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:10 ◼   ► that pays for your writing and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12 ◼   ► awesome right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:13 ◼   ► you're supposed to show you they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:15 ◼   ► have looked and seen that and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17 ◼   ► say for the last year or so I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:18 ◼   ► maybe like a hundred two hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20 ◼   ► a month and revenue from amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22 ◼   ► affiliate so it's cutting off a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:24 ◼   ► small portion of it but I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26 ◼   ► the what did you join a didn't cut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:29 ◼   ► everything they only cut off a portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:30 ◼   ► know they cut off every day did my at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:35 ◼   ► you know you can get tagged no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37 ◼   ► works ok ok that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39 ◼   ► the tail is completely out yes it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:42 ◼   ► equivalent of one you know like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:45 ◼   ► like the Apple equivalent of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47 ◼   ► like what they did to the dash developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49 ◼   ► you know you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:50 ◼   ► yeah you're done with a warning and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52 ◼   ► and and they even get any email even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54 ◼   ► said there's no you know there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:56 ◼   ► there is no recourse you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:59 ◼   ► there's nowhere you know there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:00 ◼   ► nothing like if you would like to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:03 ◼   ► know I know he'll notice about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05 ◼   ► yeah right you're out and then it ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:08 ◼   ► with like have a nice day I started hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:12 ◼   ► you have sponsors thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14 ◼   ► right so if there's anybody at amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16 ◼   ► who's listening to the show you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18 ◼   ► that's kinda fishy you know write to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:20 ◼   ► at during fireball and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:22 ◼   ► I would love to have a communication but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:23 ◼   ► not so much that I even care I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:25 ◼   ► put it back on but i'd love to know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27 ◼   ► about what happened with this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28 ◼   ► it's to me very curious and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:32 ◼   ► seems like these things get publicized a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34 ◼   ► lot when Apple does it to people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:36 ◼   ► I've never seen anybody complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:37 ◼   ► this with amazon before but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:39 ◼   ► other sites that are completely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:41 ◼   ► utterly dependent upon their amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:42 ◼   ► affiliate revenue I mean it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:44 ◼   ► much the secret to like the wire cutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:45 ◼   ► and and their business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:47 ◼   ► yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah Kottke is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:49 ◼   ► case where you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51 ◼   ► yeah that's a the gift recommendations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:52 ◼   ► yeah however one of those is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:55 ◼   ► come up with the the obvious his old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:58 ◼   ► oscillate domain just like you did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00 ◼   ► see that it's like okay goodnight Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02 ◼   ► making some money they're awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:03 ◼   ► I don't know I thought that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:05 ◼   ► odd you see this thing moving on you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:08 ◼   ► this story about the uber self-driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:10 ◼   ► car that ran a temperance is kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:11 ◼   ► that's pretty funny i will put a link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:14 ◼   ► the show notes one thing that I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16 ◼   ► was wow that's scary to the video was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:19 ◼   ► shot by cabs dashboard camp and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:22 ◼   ► really did show a Volvo uber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:25 ◼   ► self-driving Volvo with the whole big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27 ◼   ► it's very obvious because i had the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29 ◼   ► self-driving rigging gets on top yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31 ◼   ► yeah yeah a real big fingers on top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:34 ◼   ► it just sails right through a red light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:37 ◼   ► like three standard red it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39 ◼   ► close to a pedestrian to right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41 ◼   ► see the yeah and it's like you know okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43 ◼   ► it's 23 feet away but you know hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:47 ◼   ► know we we've all been crossing street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:50 ◼   ► and city and have a close call and thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:53 ◼   ► ya the other that could happen me other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55 ◼   ► negative it ended badly right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:58 ◼   ► other thing that struck me in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5278">TS</a>]

01:27:59 ◼   ► that could have been me is that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:01 ◼   ► at the part of san francisco where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:02 ◼   ► always go like right about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:05 ◼   ► exactly right in front of museum i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07 ◼   ► it was right right right in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09 ◼   ► moment which is right around the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11 ◼   ► from Moscow knee and is therefore like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:14 ◼   ► anyways of us who just here we could've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16 ◼   ► been drinking the last fix that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:20 ◼   ► it's part of that whole South of Market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:24 ◼   ► union square area where people who go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:28 ◼   ► for Moscow any related events you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:30 ◼   ► you just tend to become familiar with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:31 ◼   ► was wrong right there like it yeah i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33 ◼   ► not familiar with most of San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35 ◼   ► but it's the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:35 ◼   ► san francisco I'm intimately from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:37 ◼   ► yeah but you know holy crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:39 ◼   ► although if you're drinking at the w or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:41 ◼   ► the st. Regis one of those places you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:42 ◼   ► probably not having that much to drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:44 ◼   ► because the drinks are so expensive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46 ◼   ► yeah yeah here's the thing that struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:51 ◼   ► me that i'll put a link into the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53 ◼   ► notes with this Bloomberg story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55 ◼   ► Cooper PR / spokesman matt wing said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:59 ◼   ► a statement now it's off to them for at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01 ◼   ► least putting their spokesman's name in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03 ◼   ► the statement unlike Apple who almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:04 ◼   ► never puts the spokespersons name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:07 ◼   ► just attributes to an apple spokesperson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08 ◼   ► but anyway this is the statement this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:12 ◼   ► incident was due to human error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14 ◼   ► this is why we believe so much in making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:15 ◼   ► the road safer by building self-driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:17 ◼   ► boobers this vehicle was not part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19 ◼   ► pilot and was not carrying customers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21 ◼   ► driver involved has been suspended while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:24 ◼   ► we continue to investigate and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:27 ◼   ► oh so it wasn't you know like the driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29 ◼   ► ran a red light but i think no I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:34 ◼   ► this is the worst type of public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36 ◼   ► relations statement possible where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38 ◼   ► think this was very carefully calibrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40 ◼   ► word-by-word where you read it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42 ◼   ► think oh it's so it was a human error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:45 ◼   ► it was a human driver who ran the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47 ◼   ► light whereas if you think about it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:50 ◼   ► if it was the self-driving car that ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52 ◼   ► the red light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54 ◼   ► why don't know Ryder yeah it's a this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:57 ◼   ► what I think happened i think this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59 ◼   ► was in self driving mode i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:01 ◼   ► were lucky and there was I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:04 ◼   ► not lying i think there was no passenger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06 ◼   ► at the moment because otherwise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:08 ◼   ► would be just a blatant lie because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:09 ◼   ► said quote was not carrying customers so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:12 ◼   ► i think it was empty but i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14 ◼   ► self-driving car went right through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:17 ◼   ► when they say it was human error what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:18 ◼   ► they mean is that the hit the employee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:20 ◼   ► behind the wheel did wasn't paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22 ◼   ► attention because it was in self driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:23 ◼   ► mode and didn't manually apply the brake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:26 ◼   ► when it was clear that the car was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:27 ◼   ► to sell through the red light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:28 ◼   ► alright that's what I think happened i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:31 ◼   ► think it was a self-driving error the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33 ◼   ► self-driving car went right through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:34 ◼   ► red light there was a pedestrian right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:37 ◼   ► in front of it luckily you know seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:38 ◼   ► steer the car coming and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:41 ◼   ► weighted and they're saying it's human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:44 ◼   ► error because the human behind the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46 ◼   ► didn't manually apply the brake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:47 ◼   ► yep that would be I think would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:50 ◼   ► excruciating Lee hard job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:52 ◼   ► I really do because if you just say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54 ◼   ► had to spend six hours and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:55 ◼   ► self-driving car that was ninety-nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:57 ◼   ► percent for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:59 ◼   ► yeah and around to hit the absolutely it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:02 ◼   ► is taking you know those those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:03 ◼   ► videos that show the the Tesla's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:06 ◼   ► their self drive mode i get so anxious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:10 ◼   ► with those and I can't take my hand or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:12 ◼   ► my eyes off of it the the drivers hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:15 ◼   ► the other desert clearly not touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:16 ◼   ► the steering wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5476">TS</a>]

01:31:17 ◼   ► it's like oh my god what's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19 ◼   ► next right like it would be it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:22 ◼   ► drive a car for six hours and not run a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24 ◼   ► red light or hit anybody because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26 ◼   ► driving but to not be driving and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:29 ◼   ► everything go fine maybe for like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:32 ◼   ► days maybe you've done it five days in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:34 ◼   ► row and nothing more on this happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:35 ◼   ► to still be at a moment's notice to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37 ◼   ► the brakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:38 ◼   ► yeah i think it requires a level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40 ◼   ► concentration that i know i personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:41 ◼   ► do not have now I also yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:44 ◼   ► probably you're probably also monitoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46 ◼   ► other things about the system right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48 ◼   ► looking at you know dials and switches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:49 ◼   ► right you know it's like okay you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:52 ◼   ► put me behind the wheel of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54 ◼   ► self-driving car for an hour and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:57 ◼   ► be I would be completely paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5517">TS</a>]

01:32:00 ◼   ► attention because I would be it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:01 ◼   ► like holy shit this cars driving itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03 ◼   ► I terrified i'm ready to go right I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:06 ◼   ► have my hands you know my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08 ◼   ► twitching ready to take the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:09 ◼   ► my hand my foot on the brake you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:11 ◼   ► ready to go because for like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13 ◼   ► hour so i'm going to be blown away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15 ◼   ► amazed and kinda scared after like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:18 ◼   ► know 20 hours 30 hours it becomes normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:20 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:21 ◼   ► it is very hard to be paying that level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:24 ◼   ► of attention to something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:25 ◼   ► ninety-nine point nine percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:28 ◼   ► time you don't need to be paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:29 ◼   ► attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:29 ◼   ► well it's interesting to me that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:33 ◼   ► when you connect this piece of news with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:37 ◼   ► some piece of news the from one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:40 ◼   ► last week before about the the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:43 ◼   ► cost of an over trip is like 40 or 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:46 ◼   ► percent more than they actually charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:47 ◼   ► you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:48 ◼   ► yeah you connect those dots it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:53 ◼   ► uber you know anybody who runs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:56 ◼   ► business and those that eat the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5576">TS</a>]

01:32:58 ◼   ► your employees is by far the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:00 ◼   ► cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:01 ◼   ► yeah it's just that's where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03 ◼   ► money goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:04 ◼   ► so you know them saying this is why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:08 ◼   ► believe so much in making the road safer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:10 ◼   ► by building self-driving overs that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:13 ◼   ► kind of bullshit right they believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15 ◼   ► building self driving over because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17 ◼   ► going to make their business profitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:18 ◼   ► right you can you can you can that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:21 ◼   ► always cost 40 or 60 percent too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:25 ◼   ► well you know you don't have to pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:27 ◼   ► driver sitting behind the wheel and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:31 ◼   ► the Holy economic system situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:33 ◼   ► changes and you're making shitloads of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:36 ◼   ► money because you know you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38 ◼   ► one-time cost for that computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:41 ◼   ► drives the car you know your call your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:45 ◼   ► front cost of the cup computer and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5625">TS</a>]

01:33:46 ◼   ► car i think there is a hey let's save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:51 ◼   ► lives and switch to self-driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:53 ◼   ► that is true there are wait there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:55 ◼   ► millions of people who are killed every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:56 ◼   ► year by automobile accidents and i truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:58 ◼   ► and honestly believe that we will look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:00 ◼   ► back on that as n and n are societies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:03 ◼   ► and my personal acceptance of it i own a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05 ◼   ► car I Drive as barbarous yeah like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:09 ◼   ► it's definitely sooner rather than later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11 ◼   ► it'll happen really soon and maybe 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:15 ◼   ► years from now maybe 15 maybe 20 at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:17 ◼   ► most but I think we'll look back on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:19 ◼   ► and and and I think it'll be I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:22 ◼   ► people who who continue to insist on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:25 ◼   ► driving around cars will start to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:26 ◼   ► looked at as people who you know smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28 ◼   ► around babies i really do because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:31 ◼   ► think that the I think the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:32 ◼   ► its clearest not here yet but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34 ◼   ► clearly going to be here where a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:37 ◼   ► where all the cars are automated will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:40 ◼   ► and they just weren't together you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:42 ◼   ► a network banner and and the safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:44 ◼   ► improvements will be dramatic absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:47 ◼   ► dramatic but I think you're exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:49 ◼   ► right that boobers interested students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51 ◼   ► but yeah very much primarily about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:55 ◼   ► wages they have to pay to a driver and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:56 ◼   ► everything and bigger issues our society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/5696">TS</a>]

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01:47:55 ◼   ► detect the core of color manage really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6475">TS</a>]

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01:48:10 ◼   ► we've got all these devices that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12 ◼   ► different color profiles different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:14 ◼   ► of characterizing color and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:16 ◼   ► kind of that they're a little different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:17 ◼   ► but then we got this thing called an eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:20 ◼   ► which doesn't change it does it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:23 ◼   ► the yes it's changed over you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:26 ◼   ► millions of years do the evolution but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:28 ◼   ► you know and it at its core I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:32 ◼   ► is the thing with this it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:33 ◼   ► change so it's you know of color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:35 ◼   ► management all revolves around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:37 ◼   ► sense of vision so and in terms of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6517">TS</a>]

01:48:41 ◼   ► well-timed in terms of where we are as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43 ◼   ► an industry you're right web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:45 ◼   ► Safari leading the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:47 ◼   ► yeah management cancer in the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6527">TS</a>]

01:48:50 ◼   ► they did that is clear now right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:52 ◼   ► like they need color management because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6532">TS</a>]

01:48:54 ◼   ► they knew that they were coming out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:56 ◼   ► these new displays which have a wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58 ◼   ► can hats the other the other shoe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:01 ◼   ► dropping is the display technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03 ◼   ► starting with the imac 5k last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:07 ◼   ► yep which was their first product with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:08 ◼   ► the what do they call it a deep color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:10 ◼   ► gamut it were widely wide color yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:14 ◼   ► did write this gets into the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6554">TS</a>]

01:49:16 ◼   ► you had with our our mutual friend Gus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:18 ◼   ► me laugh and technically edit edit your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:21 ◼   ► book Gaspar's dealer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6561">TS</a>]

01:49:23 ◼   ► yeah it and it it he's right text it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:27 ◼   ► technically it's deeper you got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29 ◼   ► 16 pics are 16 bits instead of eight so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:32 ◼   ► yes it's a deeper pixel but that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:37 ◼   ► talks about the pixel and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6577">TS</a>]

01:49:39 ◼   ► reason why apple's started calling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:41 ◼   ► white colors it not only talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6581">TS</a>]

01:49:42 ◼   ► the actual pixels but it's also talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:44 ◼   ► about the gamut which is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6584">TS</a>]

01:49:46 ◼   ► you know these displays can display more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:48 ◼   ► color and yeah it's it's not excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:51 ◼   ► about like right now right right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:52 ◼   ► when you look at the display and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6592">TS</a>]

01:49:54 ◼   ► immediately obvious it didn't write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:56 ◼   ► the thing that I'm here in fact my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:58 ◼   ► got one of these new 4k LG display's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:02 ◼   ► her new a macbook pro and it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:08 ◼   ► the first thing she said to me was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:10 ◼   ► wow this display looks great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6610">TS</a>]

01:50:13 ◼   ► Horace Horace it is that the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:16 ◼   ► about the the the ipad pro the 9.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:19 ◼   ► iPad pro the first iOS device that had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:22 ◼   ► white color places there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:25 ◼   ► striking about this play I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:26 ◼   ► what it is but it just it looks great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6626">TS</a>]

01:50:29 ◼   ► it's and that that the way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:32 ◼   ► explain it to people it's like the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:34 ◼   ► know if you only ever had a bass speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:36 ◼   ► rate the old you never listen to music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6636">TS</a>]

01:50:40 ◼   ► on you know a bass speaker and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:43 ◼   ► somebody gave you a tweeter you would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:45 ◼   ► like wow this sounds a lot better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6645">TS</a>]

01:50:47 ◼   ► you know you basically you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:48 ◼   ► more detail right you you become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:51 ◼   ► accustomed to something and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:53 ◼   ► retina was reading I gave us more pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:55 ◼   ► people picked up it on immediately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:58 ◼   ► then you start talking about a 0 a wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:03 ◼   ► range of tonal values and it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:05 ◼   ► harder to express that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:08 ◼   ► like you know you should be more dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:09 ◼   ► range in your music and it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6669">TS</a>]

01:51:11 ◼   ► sounds better but you don't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:13 ◼   ► why and I don't think it's any I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:16 ◼   ► think there's any trick to which which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:18 ◼   ► came first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6678">TS</a>]

01:51:19 ◼   ► retin-a resolution is far more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:21 ◼   ► I'm yeah you know I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6681">TS</a>]

01:51:23 ◼   ► everybody would agree i'd rather have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6683">TS</a>]

01:51:24 ◼   ► Retina resolution without the deep gamut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:26 ◼   ► than to have a deep gamut display but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:28 ◼   ► the old pre-reading a resolution is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:30 ◼   ► right right right is more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:32 ◼   ► that's more noticeable but the next step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:34 ◼   ► is clearly increasing the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6694">TS</a>]

01:51:37 ◼   ► colors that's why I think Apple goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:38 ◼   ► with wide because I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:40 ◼   ► describing it from the users perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:41 ◼   ► yeah absolutely yeah yeah they give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:44 ◼   ► a wider vision of of your of your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:48 ◼   ► and you know that the fact that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:52 ◼   ► iphone cameras now are shooting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:55 ◼   ► display p3 you know there's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6715">TS</a>]

01:51:56 ◼   ► lot more of these wide gamut of floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6716">TS</a>]

01:52:00 ◼   ► around you know the answer that right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:04 ◼   ► was there already are great every photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:06 ◼   ► that's taken with an iphone 7 already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:08 ◼   ► it's here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:09 ◼   ► yeah and and you know that we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6729">TS</a>]

01:52:11 ◼   ► that the guys at Instagram mike krieger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:17 ◼   ► and then the the crew there I i gave an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6737">TS</a>]

01:52:20 ◼   ► early version of the book because I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:22 ◼   ► you know they're going to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6742">TS</a>]

01:52:25 ◼   ► problem you know the you know you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:28 ◼   ► of get apple loves to have apps on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:32 ◼   ► when they announce something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6752">TS</a>]

01:52:33 ◼   ► pretty obvious to me that the display p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:35 ◼   ► 3 screens and cameras were coming to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6755">TS</a>]

01:52:38 ◼   ► next iphone connect the dots ok and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6758">TS</a>]

01:52:41 ◼   ► give a copy of the book and it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:43 ◼   ► helped them right over there when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:45 ◼   ► ipad pro got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:46 ◼   ► yeah the ipad pro got the wide color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6766">TS</a>]

01:52:48 ◼   ► gamut within the 9.7 form factor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6768">TS</a>]

01:52:51 ◼   ► March it i thought it was a sure thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:53 ◼   ► that the iphone would get me too and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6773">TS</a>]

01:52:55 ◼   ► and and that explained to you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:58 ◼   ► again practice you know mountain lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6778">TS</a>]

01:53:00 ◼   ► the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:00 ◼   ► as in safari changing the way things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:03 ◼   ► work suddenly it all kind of fell into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:06 ◼   ► place that ok this is not just a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:09 ◼   ► thing this is iOS thing this is it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:12 ◼   ► turns out that the touch bar on the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:16 ◼   ► macbook pros is a display p3 gamut on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:21 ◼   ► old toilet yeah on i'll let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6801">TS</a>]

01:53:24 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6804">TS</a>]

01:53:25 ◼   ► yeah so it's gonna be everywhere and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:27 ◼   ► and I did I felt that is great and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:30 ◼   ► developers who are just thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:32 ◼   ► the pixel is you know it's a red a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6812">TS</a>]

01:53:36 ◼   ► of green eight bits of blue you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6816">TS</a>]

01:53:38 ◼   ► for some surprises when that no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6818">TS</a>]

01:53:42 ◼   ► just eight bits number one and number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:44 ◼   ► two it's characterized by an icc color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:50 ◼   ► profile right here you that's and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6830">TS</a>]

01:53:53 ◼   ► the thing that I am describing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:58 ◼   ► book and then a challenge for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:01 ◼   ► working today it it'll i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6841">TS</a>]

01:54:05 ◼   ► say it will be easier but in a way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6845">TS</a>]

01:54:07 ◼   ► would be like let's fast forward 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6847">TS</a>]

01:54:08 ◼   ► years and I think we can probably guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6848">TS</a>]

01:54:11 ◼   ► that 10 years from now almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6851">TS</a>]

01:54:14 ◼   ► commonly used devices will have the wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6854">TS</a>]

01:54:17 ◼   ► color displays oh yeah yeah absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6857">TS</a>]

01:54:21 ◼   ► yeah you know it is it it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6861">TS</a>]

01:54:22 ◼   ► competitive advantage for apple right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:24 ◼   ► now right yes AR there ahead of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:27 ◼   ► right but they were the head of a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:29 ◼   ► with retina right there have you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6869">TS</a>]

01:54:31 ◼   ► handle a lot of technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:33 ◼   ► this looks better is it is a compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6873">TS</a>]

01:54:36 ◼   ► competitive advantage in almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:39 ◼   ► single field but there's almost no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6879">TS</a>]

01:54:42 ◼   ► market where this looks better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:44 ◼   ► competition is not even a seriously I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6884">TS</a>]

01:54:47 ◼   ► not even being a jerk but even like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:49 ◼   ► you're selling produce if you have fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6889">TS</a>]

01:54:51 ◼   ► fruit that looks better than the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:53 ◼   ► across the street it's better it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:55 ◼   ► competitive advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:56 ◼   ► yeah that's one of the things you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6896">TS</a>]

01:54:58 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's one of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6898">TS</a>]

01:54:59 ◼   ► pissed me off about the the google pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6899">TS</a>]

01:55:02 ◼   ► comparisons with the iphone all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6902">TS</a>]

01:55:05 ◼   ► comparisons i looked at were in the srgb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6905">TS</a>]

01:55:07 ◼   ► colour space they had to actually take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6907">TS</a>]

01:55:09 ◼   ► the photo that came off of the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6909">TS</a>]

01:55:11 ◼   ► and crap laughs I it to compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6911">TS</a>]

01:55:14 ◼   ► on their you know their webpage right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:17 ◼   ► they think we've talked about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:18 ◼   ► there were some of these some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6918">TS</a>]

01:55:20 ◼   ► competitions it are you know like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzJsqk0/6920">TS</a>]

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