The Talk Show

171: ‘Prisoner’s Dilemma Multitasking’, With Special Guest John Moltz


00:00:00   maybe the Cubs are in the world series [TS]

00:00:01   again every goddamn here right now isn't [TS]

00:00:04   it annoying the same shit every year but [TS]

00:00:08   it's getting you know as a sort of [TS]

00:00:12   Mariner span that's getting pretty [TS]

00:00:14   embarrassing [TS]

00:00:16   no its back when the Cubs are there [TS]

00:00:19   yeah quick haha well okay [TS]

00:00:24   pretty soon it's just gonna be us it is [TS]

00:00:28   starting like this way I don't like [TS]

00:00:30   baseball anymore and what you're [TS]

00:00:33   Cleveland Cleveland can't stop winning [TS]

00:00:34   no fair and all the championships tell [TS]

00:00:39   me [TS]

00:00:39   yeah it's rigged just like the election [TS]

00:00:44   but that's like they like it but he's [TS]

00:00:48   right you know the system is flawed are [TS]

00:00:51   you John [TS]

00:00:52   I am fine and how are you good little [TS]

00:00:55   chilly [TS]

00:00:56   yeah it started like there was it like [TS]

00:00:58   there these days [TS]

00:00:59   59 58 59 but yeah it's about what is [TS]

00:01:02   here now [TS]

00:01:03   can't complain yeah i'm in the basement [TS]

00:01:06   though so it's cool it's cool down here [TS]

00:01:08   i'm at my office is chilly it is i [TS]

00:01:12   actually I've you know I'm a very [TS]

00:01:15   delicate individual and sensitive to [TS]

00:01:17   minor fluctuations in temperature but [TS]

00:01:19   i'm at the the north end of the house [TS]

00:01:24   and so I get that my office gets a does [TS]

00:01:28   not get the sunlight and then I've that [TS]

00:01:30   makes the difference you know what its [TS]

00:01:32   temperate throughout the the main floor [TS]

00:01:34   of the house is a little chilly in here [TS]

00:01:36   yeah well I podcast in the basement and [TS]

00:01:39   usually it's about the same all year [TS]

00:01:41   round i would say my office is up in the [TS]

00:01:44   what is was the Attic it's reef is a [TS]

00:01:47   finished attic and it is it was boiling [TS]

00:01:50   on the summer and freezing cold in the [TS]

00:01:52   winter and there's like there's like [TS]

00:01:55   three days on either you know where [TS]

00:01:57   those to meet where it's decent so kind [TS]

00:02:01   of screwed [TS]

00:02:02   it's a great place you later the [TS]

00:02:04   boiling-hot part is a particularly nice [TS]

00:02:06   place to have a bunch of computer [TS]

00:02:07   equipment [TS]

00:02:09   that's very good it's good for the [TS]

00:02:11   equipment really yeah yeah everything [TS]

00:02:13   I've know about computers it's very very [TS]

00:02:15   good for them to be and and be subject [TS]

00:02:18   to where you know wild temperature [TS]

00:02:19   changes wire wires and things love that [TS]

00:02:26   so I'm looking forward to thursday [TS]

00:02:31   yeah I will be flying out tomorrow we're [TS]

00:02:34   recording on Tuesday show will air i'll [TS]

00:02:36   probably posted from an airplane [TS]

00:02:38   tomorrow i'm sure that will work [TS]

00:02:39   perfectly well and then i will be there [TS]

00:02:50   on Thursday i'm excited i feel like i [TS]

00:02:52   feel like this is a good one because we [TS]

00:02:53   don't we don't know what the hell is [TS]

00:02:54   going on really no not really not really [TS]

00:02:56   i mean there's been there's been some [TS]

00:02:58   rumors about the the new macbook pro [TS]

00:03:01   right after the only thing I know about [TS]

00:03:02   though [TS]

00:03:03   yeah I feel like everything else is sort [TS]

00:03:05   of unknown you know like there are [TS]

00:03:07   rumors that there's going to be a new [TS]

00:03:09   another new we'll get to all this detail [TS]

00:03:11   but there's rumors that there's going to [TS]

00:03:12   be another in addition to the macbook [TS]

00:03:14   pro 13-inch macbook of some sort whether [TS]

00:03:17   this is an updated air whether it's a [TS]

00:03:19   new 13-inch regular retina macbook which [TS]

00:03:23   makes no sense to me [TS]

00:03:24   we don't know yeah but i'm in the market [TS]

00:03:30   are you really yeah because my macbook [TS]

00:03:34   air is a 2012 10 so that's that's good [TS]

00:03:37   timing [TS]

00:03:38   yeah so yes this is really exciting for [TS]

00:03:39   you yeah i mean i was thinking that [TS]

00:03:41   maybe I would get this year's macbook [TS]

00:03:43   when I came out the spring but obviously [TS]

00:03:45   that wasn't quite not big enough [TS]

00:03:49   update it's a beautiful little machine [TS]

00:03:51   it yeah so nice it really is the most [TS]

00:03:54   beautiful mac that Apple's ever made [TS]

00:03:56   every time i see at the apple store and [TS]

00:03:57   I just you know I told you and I told [TS]

00:03:59   you but if you listen to the show but [TS]

00:04:01   whoever the guests for the last few [TS]

00:04:03   weeks that we had a word problem with [TS]

00:04:05   Amy's Apple watch where the bank him [TS]

00:04:07   often and we went right and I picked it [TS]

00:04:09   up and I've been in the apple store a [TS]

00:04:12   lot recently and every time I walk by i [TS]

00:04:13   always think god damn that's a nice [TS]

00:04:15   little laptop yeah [TS]

00:04:18   and you with your feelings on the [TS]

00:04:21   keyboard [TS]

00:04:23   I could live with it i'm def a'ight I'd [TS]

00:04:25   I haven't spent significant time like i [TS]

00:04:27   never got like a review unit of the [TS]

00:04:29   regular macbook so I've never spent like [TS]

00:04:31   a significant amount of time on it but [TS]

00:04:33   I'm sure that i could get used to it [TS]

00:04:35   anything that has actual physical keys [TS]

00:04:37   i'm sure i could get used to I think you [TS]

00:04:38   in the hypothetical future where they go [TS]

00:04:41   to some kind of touchscreen like surface [TS]

00:04:43   for the keyboard to make it even thinner [TS]

00:04:45   i might have a serious problem then but [TS]

00:04:48   yeah I'm going to have a problem with [TS]

00:04:49   that tail up until that point i'm sure i [TS]

00:04:51   could get used to it because I like I do [TS]

00:04:54   like and it's you know it's funny [TS]

00:04:55   because I'd like a real old-fashioned [TS]

00:04:57   mechanical keyboard right but that's [TS]

00:04:59   just what I prefer so anything less than [TS]

00:05:01   that is it's you know fine it's it's not [TS]

00:05:05   what I prefer but it's fine [TS]

00:05:06   yeah yeah I think I think for me the via [TS]

00:05:09   the baseline is some motion but the [TS]

00:05:14   glass is not it's not really gonna cut [TS]

00:05:16   it i was i was at a tremor I think this [TS]

00:05:19   was when Hank broke the screen of his [TS]

00:05:21   iphone 6s yes success and over the [TS]

00:05:28   summer we went in there and one of the [TS]

00:05:30   genes that was helping me was typing on [TS]

00:05:33   her iPad and just like I mean look like [TS]

00:05:36   65-70 words a minute and it was crazy [TS]

00:05:39   you do that I guess you know maybe [TS]

00:05:44   people maybe people now you know the [TS]

00:05:46   kids these days maybe coming up learning [TS]

00:05:49   how to type on glass screens much faster [TS]

00:05:51   the weekend [TS]

00:05:52   yeah I've spoken to some people at Apple [TS]

00:05:54   have said and this is like from a couple [TS]

00:05:56   years ago that yes that you know and and [TS]

00:05:59   like in the interim since i've had this [TS]

00:06:02   discussion with people at Apple they've [TS]

00:06:04   come out with the the smart keyboard [TS]

00:06:06   cover for ipad which has physical moving [TS]

00:06:08   Keys so it's not like they're saying hey [TS]

00:06:10   you know we don't need physical moving [TS]

00:06:12   Keys but that you know don't understand [TS]

00:06:15   if you say you can't type on an iPad [TS]

00:06:17   don't don't assume that means everybody [TS]

00:06:18   can't type and the younger it goes the [TS]

00:06:20   more you know the more natural it seems [TS]

00:06:22   because it's just what they grew up with [TS]

00:06:24   ya now in your you're missing a thumb [TS]

00:06:27   right [TS]

00:06:28   yes that is correct so i would think [TS]

00:06:29   that's even harder [TS]

00:06:31   and am I left my life I mean it's that [TS]

00:06:34   mrs. there it's just kinda hanging on by [TS]

00:06:36   a thread right exactly you know where it [TS]

00:06:39   is i do have I did suffer an injury and [TS]

00:06:44   I don't know what happened my left ring [TS]

00:06:46   finger feels like the the first knuckle [TS]

00:06:50   I at least come dummies when I was in my [TS]

00:06:55   spy high school basketball like you get [TS]

00:06:57   a dummy finger-like so your finger [TS]

00:06:58   wasn't broken didn't have a broken bone [TS]

00:07:00   but we couldn't feel it now but you know [TS]

00:07:02   like you haven't ya and basketball [TS]

00:07:04   happens all the time you catch up all [TS]

00:07:05   the wrong way but if it you know you it [TS]

00:07:08   would swell up at the knuckle real bad [TS]

00:07:10   ok and you wouldn't be able to like flex [TS]

00:07:13   it all the way but you know you could [TS]

00:07:14   like tape it up and it be alright it's [TS]

00:07:18   just one of those little things when you [TS]

00:07:19   get old and stuff doesn't heal quickly [TS]

00:07:22   like I don't know what happened but I [TS]

00:07:24   know it was over summer though because i [TS]

00:07:25   know that i noticed it when my family [TS]

00:07:27   was on vacation in this so this was like [TS]

00:07:29   early August and I was like I don't know [TS]

00:07:31   what the heck I did like if I jammed it [TS]

00:07:33   on a door or what the heck i did but i [TS]

00:07:34   noticed i woke up one morning my left [TS]

00:07:36   index finger was swollen and hurt like [TS]

00:07:39   small enough that I wouldn't be able to [TS]

00:07:40   get my wedding ring off you know i still [TS]

00:07:42   can [TS]

00:07:43   and now it's the end I looked over yeah [TS]

00:07:45   still can't and it's alert a little bit [TS]

00:07:47   and it seems like the sort of thing like [TS]

00:07:50   when I was like 17 like you I could stay [TS]

00:07:52   it would be injured ten times worse like [TS]

00:07:54   like a golf ball swollen and three days [TS]

00:07:57   later would be back to normal [TS]

00:07:59   you really like me in trouble you're [TS]

00:08:02   gonna be trouble in trouble with Amy [TS]

00:08:03   lesia get the jaws of life out here [TS]

00:08:08   you realize if you do realize i realize [TS]

00:08:10   as as I rock it through been into deeper [TS]

00:08:13   into my forties that when you're a young [TS]

00:08:14   person you really are sort of your sort [TS]

00:08:17   of like halfway to like being like [TS]

00:08:18   wolverine if you don't appreciate it at [TS]

00:08:23   the time but as you get over you [TS]

00:08:25   definitely don't appreciate it [TS]

00:08:28   yeah yeah I find I found that I like I'm [TS]

00:08:31   you know a bit older than you but i [TS]

00:08:32   bruise i get these bruises now and they [TS]

00:08:35   don't they just like stick around for [TS]

00:08:37   like a month they were hurt or anything [TS]

00:08:40   but it's like where it had that happen [TS]

00:08:42   and.and what I want to go away i have [TS]

00:08:46   the same thing I will occasionally pick [TS]

00:08:47   up a bruise like on the back of my elbow [TS]

00:08:50   right and it's like I don't remember it [TS]

00:08:53   hitting anything I don't get something [TS]

00:08:54   happens while asleep and they don't [TS]

00:08:58   don't go away like they just gonna roll [TS]

00:09:00   over too fast and boom I got a bruise [TS]

00:09:06   so what do we know we did alright so [TS]

00:09:08   what's coming at this event the matter [TS]

00:09:11   of prose is the guarantee right that's I [TS]

00:09:15   guess the one thing that we've seen some [TS]

00:09:17   pictures of him there have been fairly [TS]

00:09:19   hefty rumors about ya German I think [TS]

00:09:22   maybe gets credit for breaking at first [TS]

00:09:24   with this they're replacing the f keys [TS]

00:09:26   above the keyboard with some kind of [TS]

00:09:27   some kind of touchscreen I don't know [TS]

00:09:30   somebody at some point somebody says [TS]

00:09:33   it's an oled I don't know if that's true [TS]

00:09:35   or not that will tie into the next [TS]

00:09:40   discussion about the we called the [TS]

00:09:42   google pixel that I that I got last week [TS]

00:09:43   because i gotta tell you i still even [TS]

00:09:46   though people say they like this pixel [TS]

00:09:48   display I still don't like the colors on [TS]

00:09:50   an oled display but that over like [TS]

00:09:51   that's neither here nor there right now [TS]

00:09:54   some kind of touchscreen strip and the [TS]

00:09:58   idea would be that it's therefore [TS]

00:10:00   because its software you could you know [TS]

00:10:02   if photoshop could put like a bunch of [TS]

00:10:04   tools up there or presumably you know [TS]

00:10:06   maybe like you know a word processor [TS]

00:10:09   could put style stuff you could just [TS]

00:10:13   like a bowl button or something like [TS]

00:10:15   that [TS]

00:10:15   yeah I don't know so 13-inch 15-inch [TS]

00:10:19   macbook pros they're supposed to be [TS]

00:10:21   thinner and then there is a case leaking [TS]

00:10:23   did you see this thing there's somebody [TS]

00:10:25   in China leaked a like the top of the [TS]

00:10:31   case or the unibody enclosure and I [TS]

00:10:33   think according to the leak [TS]

00:10:37   it's like it's got four USB seaports [TS]

00:10:40   like 21 inside still has a headphone [TS]

00:10:42   jack and then that's it [TS]

00:10:44   so no more USB ports USB a is the the [TS]

00:10:48   traditional big sort of rectangular [TS]

00:10:50   rectangular one yeah USB port that we've [TS]

00:10:53   known and loved since the imac [TS]

00:10:55   1998a so no more USB a ports and no more [TS]

00:11:01   s SD card slot [TS]

00:11:05   no more what else is the macbook pro [TS]

00:11:07   have I think it has hdmi right i guess [TS]

00:11:11   so i think hdmi is the one the one that [TS]

00:11:13   I'm always trying to plug something into [TS]

00:11:15   it and it doesn't work so that's the [TS]

00:11:21   rumor and that's probably true but [TS]

00:11:23   because it sounds right to me [TS]

00:11:25   yeah yeah it makes it that makes some [TS]

00:11:28   sense and I you know I been using a [TS]

00:11:34   macbook air for years but if it's [TS]

00:11:36   thinner i might go back to the 13-inch [TS]

00:11:39   macbook pro yeah hdmi there is on the [TS]

00:11:42   current one power to USB the heck is [TS]

00:11:49   that one so i think i don't know how [TS]

00:11:53   this is that some of the stuff that I [TS]

00:11:55   feel like I'm getting old them out of [TS]

00:11:57   date on some of this stuff so it us bc i [TS]

00:12:01   know based on the retina macbook that [TS]

00:12:04   you can use USBC for lots of stuff so it [TS]

00:12:07   you know the retina macbook has one port [TS]

00:12:10   it's USBC it uses its charge and it uses [TS]

00:12:13   it to connect to a display and it uses [TS]

00:12:15   it because you can do like a thunderbolt [TS]

00:12:18   over us bc and it uses it obviously to [TS]

00:12:23   connect any USB peripherals you wanted [TS]

00:12:25   to connect to like so if if this new [TS]

00:12:28   macbook pro he only has four USB [TS]

00:12:30   seaports then if you wanted to like plug [TS]

00:12:34   it into power and plug in a peripheral [TS]

00:12:36   and plug it into a display would you be [TS]

00:12:38   able to use any of these ports to plug [TS]

00:12:39   the display into or is there going to be [TS]

00:12:41   like what this is the you know you got [TS]

00:12:42   to use this top left one for the display [TS]

00:12:44   that's a good question i would think [TS]

00:12:47   you'd be able to use any of them but I [TS]

00:12:48   don't you know in the past that some of [TS]

00:12:50   them have been differences in the USB [TS]

00:12:52   ports like some of them have different [TS]

00:12:53   at different power output [TS]

00:12:57   yeah I don't know and how would they [TS]

00:12:59   differentiate it seems very unhappily [TS]

00:13:01   like to to require you to remember that [TS]

00:13:03   these four PS that look the same [TS]

00:13:05   actually are different i mean i guess [TS]

00:13:08   what they could do is is print like a [TS]

00:13:10   little I don't know some kind of little [TS]

00:13:12   icon next to the one that you know but [TS]

00:13:16   that doesn't seem right seems like you [TS]

00:13:17   should be able to use any of them for [TS]

00:13:18   anything but I don't know if [TS]

00:13:19   electronically that works out I don't [TS]

00:13:21   know [TS]

00:13:22   yeah i'm gonna guess that's it yeah it [TS]

00:13:26   is that's just part of the the is Apple [TS]

00:13:30   doing the lightning or not the Lightning [TS]

00:13:32   DM what's the line what does USBC have [TS]

00:13:43   the Thunderbolt in it [TS]

00:13:46   yes yeah but I mean but is that Apple's [TS]

00:13:48   doing is that the USBC and standard I [TS]

00:13:50   think it's the USB standard forget as [TS]

00:13:52   something something to do with intel [TS]

00:13:54   okay well then then I don't know why [TS]

00:13:56   they wouldn't all have it right [TS]

00:13:58   i-i-i it sounds like good update to me I [TS]

00:14:05   i don't know i mean and suppose you know [TS]

00:14:08   the whole thing is going to be thinner [TS]

00:14:09   presumably one of the reasons they're [TS]

00:14:11   getting rid of us ba is just because it [TS]

00:14:16   by today's standards that's a big fat [TS]

00:14:17   port i'm not saying that the device is [TS]

00:14:20   actually on the device is obviously not [TS]

00:14:21   going to be no matter how thin it is [TS]

00:14:24   it's not going to be so thin that they [TS]

00:14:25   couldn't put a USB a port in but i think [TS]

00:14:28   it you know you could I think it's [TS]

00:14:30   probably going to be thin enough for us [TS]

00:14:31   ba would look ugly [TS]

00:14:32   yeah and you know we all know that most [TS]

00:14:35   important thing when you buy computers [TS]

00:14:37   making sure that the port's look nice [TS]

00:14:39   vga is gonna be a vga port there will be [TS]

00:14:45   a dongle for be too big and I've always [TS]

00:14:49   been a little rice the vga port I've [TS]

00:14:51   even used it I have you know i still use [TS]

00:14:54   some standalone camera so I you know I [TS]

00:14:57   have SD cards and i have used it you [TS]

00:15:00   know the SD to SD slot on my macbook pro [TS]

00:15:03   on occasion I've always thought it was a [TS]

00:15:05   little surprising that Apple put an SD [TS]

00:15:06   card slot in the mac book pro [TS]

00:15:10   just because and it's then you know and [TS]

00:15:12   I'd I would presume that they could do [TS]

00:15:14   it on the new one by you know it's [TS]

00:15:15   certainly a pretty thin little slot it [TS]

00:15:17   just seems like a non-apple like thing [TS]

00:15:19   to do though it seems to me like if you [TS]

00:15:20   want to use a card you know they they [TS]

00:15:22   want you to be punished by having to use [TS]

00:15:24   a dongle and i say that i'm being a [TS]

00:15:27   little facetious but it's just add on [TS]

00:15:29   Apple's you know really takes the [TS]

00:15:31   minimalism on these ports to an extreme [TS]

00:15:33   and adding it SD card slot built-in it's [TS]

00:15:36   sort of unusual for Apple yeah yeah [TS]

00:15:39   still on the imac to yeah i use that to [TS]

00:15:43   I've already said that's my favorite [TS]

00:15:45   game to play on the imac is plugin yeah [TS]

00:15:47   well that's the thing yeah and we know [TS]

00:15:48   on the back of the device that becomes [TS]

00:15:51   very difficult i've gotten very good at [TS]

00:15:52   it i've gotten very good at sitting at [TS]

00:15:54   my desk not being able to see get an SD [TS]

00:15:56   card list into the into this last night [TS]

00:16:00   I can't even plug USB he's in the back [TS]

00:16:03   of mine i tweeted that and a bunch of [TS]

00:16:05   people I hadn't thought about this [TS]

00:16:06   because I never owned one of the side [TS]

00:16:08   loading imax you know before they got [TS]

00:16:11   the real thin sides that slot was on the [TS]

00:16:14   side which is in theory the SD card was [TS]

00:16:18   yeah [TS]

00:16:19   oh really ok and i miss that they also [TS]

00:16:21   had CD slots over there though and so [TS]

00:16:23   apparent a real cop common problem it [TS]

00:16:26   was a Perry I mean I you wouldn't [TS]

00:16:27   believe how many organs that he's like [TS]

00:16:29   yeah that's it everybody played along [TS]

00:16:32   with my idea that this was a great game [TS]

00:16:33   and they're like it gets home and it's a [TS]

00:16:36   good way to lose all of your lives you [TS]

00:16:41   just tuck it in and the second you let [TS]

00:16:43   go of it and like you know forget it all [TS]

00:16:45   the way in you realize what you've done [TS]

00:16:47   that's terrible and then you got to fish [TS]

00:16:49   it out ya better had better to have it [TS]

00:16:52   on the back so yeah macbook pro and and [TS]

00:17:04   then everything else is just up and hear [TS]

00:17:07   me [TS]

00:17:08   yeah so there is there's rumors of a new [TS]

00:17:11   13-inch model and this is to me where [TS]

00:17:13   we're being you are in our pundit points [TS]

00:17:15   because the data macbook pros a little [TS]

00:17:17   self explanatory but what is this [TS]

00:17:19   13-inch macbook pro some people are [TS]

00:17:21   calling it a macbook air [TS]

00:17:22   in chi kuo of KGI securities or rivers [TS]

00:17:27   company's called the analyst who gets [TS]

00:17:29   gets a lot wrong actually [TS]

00:17:31   philip elmer-dewitt as an interesting [TS]

00:17:33   scorecard for his like three years of [TS]

00:17:35   predictions but his iphone stuff is [TS]

00:17:37   usually spot on [TS]

00:17:38   yeah usually he gets wrong that the [TS]

00:17:40   timing right it's not that great on [TS]

00:17:42   timing any and he's like everybody you [TS]

00:17:45   know he's really is that not an apple [TS]

00:17:49   analyst so much as an appellation supply [TS]

00:17:51   chain analyst like his sources are very [TS]

00:17:53   clearly it's almost transparent that is [TS]

00:17:55   sources are from the agent supply chain [TS]

00:17:57   so he doesn't get things like product [TS]

00:17:59   marketing because the agent supply chain [TS]

00:18:01   doesn't know that stuff like that like [TS]

00:18:03   what's the name of the device going to [TS]

00:18:04   be they don't know that until the last [TS]

00:18:06   minute and they start printing it you [TS]

00:18:09   know on the devices and a string of [TS]

00:18:12   pricing and stuff like that nobody knows [TS]

00:18:14   pricing is like the top held secret that [TS]

00:18:16   Apple like there's only you know bro [TS]

00:18:18   very seldom leaks because i don't think [TS]

00:18:20   it ever really leaves you know it from [TS]

00:18:22   in between like shoulders group and tim [TS]

00:18:26   cook you know and then [TS]

00:18:27   well surely jeff williams but you know [TS]

00:18:30   it's like a top people type thing right [TS]

00:18:34   and i was making the webpage so he could [TS]

00:18:36   he's been calling it a macbook air for a [TS]

00:18:38   while a new 13-inch or maybe he's been [TS]

00:18:40   calling a macbook I don't know but the [TS]

00:18:42   idea that they would make a 13-inch [TS]

00:18:46   macbook like the 12-inch MacBook makes [TS]

00:18:48   no sense to me like 30 no i don't [TS]

00:18:50   understand that either I you need like [TS]

00:18:53   two inches to have a separation that [TS]

00:18:56   will make sense Lena like oh yeah i can [TS]

00:18:59   see this 13-inch is sort of like a [TS]

00:19:01   regular size and 15 inches big and this [TS]

00:19:04   oh and this 11 inches tiny 12 and 13 or [TS]

00:19:07   way too close to each other so that [TS]

00:19:08   doesn't make any sense to me [TS]

00:19:10   plus it doesn't seem like I mean it [TS]

00:19:12   seems like it's a little early to to [TS]

00:19:14   bring out a new macbook right because [TS]

00:19:16   the current ones only came out i think [TS]

00:19:18   in April right right right so if your [TS]

00:19:22   loads so then the speculation is that [TS]

00:19:25   it's an error right and you know some [TS]

00:19:30   people have speculated nobody seems to [TS]

00:19:31   be willing to commit not not in chi [TS]

00:19:34   quote not German nobody is saying well [TS]

00:19:36   what kind of display this thing has [TS]

00:19:37   which is inconspicuous to me because it [TS]

00:19:40   would like so they're just not [TS]

00:19:42   mentioning it meaning does it have a [TS]

00:19:45   Retina display which is certainly what [TS]

00:19:47   people who are hoping for a retina [TS]

00:19:48   macbook air hoping for if it doesn't [TS]

00:19:51   have a Retina display is the display [TS]

00:19:53   improved at all versus the existing [TS]

00:19:56   macbook airs because there's things i [TS]

00:19:58   think like I don't think they're I [TS]

00:20:00   forget there's certain technical things [TS]

00:20:01   even if it doesn't go right now that [TS]

00:20:03   could be improved in the macbook air [TS]

00:20:05   display like I think like IPS and stuff [TS]

00:20:08   like that [TS]

00:20:08   ok I don't know nobody knows that's why [TS]

00:20:15   it's exciting [TS]

00:20:16   the idea i guess is that if it needs [TS]

00:20:20   that I'm a little surprised that they're [TS]

00:20:21   updating at all [TS]

00:20:22   I've been under the assumption that the [TS]

00:20:25   macbook air is only hanging around to [TS]

00:20:27   occupy price points like a trait that [TS]

00:20:29   899 that the 11-inch started a 999 13 [TS]

00:20:32   and started at and that there's no other [TS]

00:20:34   reason for those devices to exist and so [TS]

00:20:37   that Apple's would just keep selling the [TS]

00:20:38   old ones as long as keep people keep [TS]

00:20:40   buying them exactly like the there's [TS]

00:20:45   still that old macbook pro that has a [TS]

00:20:47   spinning CD drive that apple sells they [TS]

00:20:52   don't really advertise it they don't [TS]

00:20:54   have it out in the apple stores but if [TS]

00:20:55   you go online you can still buy it that [TS]

00:20:59   has a CD drive even I think so let me [TS]

00:21:02   check the port definitely has definitely [TS]

00:21:03   has a spinning hardly has any hard drive [TS]

00:21:06   maybe it doesn't mean i think it's just [TS]

00:21:07   a spinning hard right doesn't doesn't no [TS]

00:21:08   it does not have a CD drive all right [TS]

00:21:10   whatever [TS]

00:21:11   yeah don't have a floppy drive was just [TS]

00:21:14   behind as if it's got its got swappable [TS]

00:21:16   bit is but you can take the zip right [TS]

00:21:18   you can take the zip right about now and [TS]

00:21:22   putting jazz drive-in is that what hours [TS]

00:21:26   yeah yeah I got one of those upstairs [TS]

00:21:31   jazz drive now i don't know i don't have [TS]

00:21:35   the right idea i have an old our pal gym [TS]

00:21:37   rank gave me is all done and what is it [TS]

00:21:40   it's a it's a wall street [TS]

00:21:45   what was it called powerbook yeah with [TS]

00:21:48   the put the thing you could pop out i [TS]

00:21:50   think i just wish that one hand that [TS]

00:21:52   anyway it's a really old have a really [TS]

00:21:54   old powerbook upstairs [TS]

00:21:56   well anyway Apple still sells had some [TS]

00:22:02   sort of ancient macbook pro that I can't [TS]

00:22:04   even remember the details of that is [TS]

00:22:06   only there because people keep buying it [TS]

00:22:08   yeah i mean i would i would think that [TS]

00:22:13   now is the time just to be going all [TS]

00:22:16   retina and they would sweep away that [TS]

00:22:21   one and then the air but these rumors [TS]

00:22:25   seem to indicate maybe not [TS]

00:22:28   there we go it's at the bottom of the [TS]

00:22:30   macbook pro paige and i lost 1099 [TS]

00:22:33   dollars right so it is a as a 500 [TS]

00:22:37   gigabyte 5400 RPM hard drive so that's [TS]

00:22:40   what i was thinkin of ya i guess it's [TS]

00:22:44   like some of these apple products seemed [TS]

00:22:46   to me like products from the past like I [TS]

00:22:50   don't I can't imagine like I splurged [TS]

00:22:53   when i bought the item that is my imac [TS]

00:22:55   is almost two years old now but that was [TS]

00:22:57   the last device i've bought where I was [TS]

00:23:00   maybe possibly even thinking vaguely I [TS]

00:23:03   might still get a spinning hard drive I [TS]

00:23:04   thought maybe about because it the [TS]

00:23:06   upgrade to get like a full one terabyte [TS]

00:23:09   SSD was seriously expensive but of [TS]

00:23:14   course i love to spend money so i just [TS]

00:23:15   got it but it was the last time I even [TS]

00:23:17   hesitated for a second and thought maybe [TS]

00:23:20   i should just get the diffusion drive so [TS]

00:23:23   I you know and I realized as i bought [TS]

00:23:25   this imac that it will be the last that [TS]

00:23:27   whatever the previous I back i bought [TS]

00:23:29   was the last you know I'm never going to [TS]

00:23:31   buy a spinning hard disk [TS]

00:23:32   yeah in Thai inside of mac again yeah [TS]

00:23:35   maybe on external drive you know just [TS]

00:23:37   for backup or whatever but not inside [TS]

00:23:40   and I don't think I've ever by person I [TS]

00:23:42   would never buy another device without a [TS]

00:23:44   retina screen [TS]

00:23:45   mhm but yeah and so that's the end [TS]

00:23:47   that's the other thing that's did the [TS]

00:23:48   hard drive I would think that now would [TS]

00:23:50   be a also a good time they probably all [TS]

00:23:52   this they probably want to because it [TS]

00:23:53   seems like it's too ubiquitous across [TS]

00:23:55   several different product lines but to [TS]

00:23:57   get rid of some dates some [TS]

00:23:59   soon they need to get rid of the [TS]

00:24:00   spinning drives fusions not bad fusion [TS]

00:24:02   works fine but the solely spinning [TS]

00:24:05   drives or I would never buy one night so [TS]

00:24:09   the conundrum i see i thought that maybe [TS]

00:24:12   the air would just stay as it is with it [TS]

00:24:15   screaming non retina displays and just [TS]

00:24:18   sit at those price points until the [TS]

00:24:20   retina macbook could be sold for like [TS]

00:24:22   999 and then they would just get rid of [TS]

00:24:25   that there's would just suddenly [TS]

00:24:26   disappear and be maybe a at whatever [TS]

00:24:29   point in the future this happens a year [TS]

00:24:31   old retina macbook that sells it 999 or [TS]

00:24:34   899 even a newer retina macbook with [TS]

00:24:38   better specs that sells at 1299 or 1399 [TS]

00:24:42   you know that's what I expected but it's [TS]

00:24:46   you know based on these rumors it seems [TS]

00:24:48   as though the air might be sticking [TS]

00:24:50   around but yeah then is it going to be [TS]

00:24:52   called a rep macbook air [TS]

00:24:53   I don't know yeah the macbook starts of [TS]

00:24:56   1,300 bucks so it'll still a little [TS]

00:25:00   pricey too and I'm not doesn't seem like [TS]

00:25:02   doesn't seem like they would they could [TS]

00:25:04   drop just so merrily take three hundred [TS]

00:25:06   dollars off right now and it only came [TS]

00:25:08   out in April so that you just wait you [TS]

00:25:10   know six months later it's a we highly [TS]

00:25:12   unusual for Apple to drop a product by [TS]

00:25:14   thirty percent price so yeah whatever it [TS]

00:25:17   is it's about the commander sent it just [TS]

00:25:21   doesn't seem possible but then what [TS]

00:25:23   price would this macbook be this is the [TS]

00:25:25   problem I see is if it's a retina [TS]

00:25:27   macbook air [TS]

00:25:28   what price does it start at because if [TS]

00:25:30   it starts at nine ninety-nine that seems [TS]

00:25:33   like a great deal and it doesn't seem [TS]

00:25:35   preposterous given that there are [TS]

00:25:37   competing products from other companies [TS]

00:25:39   you know that have roughly the similar [TS]

00:25:41   specs like I think like let's just say [TS]

00:25:42   like a microsoft surface which has you [TS]

00:25:46   know I think roughly air quality you [TS]

00:25:49   know the cpu from Intel and has a Retina [TS]

00:25:52   screen and it's you know as a starting [TS]

00:25:54   price under a thousand dollars so it's [TS]

00:25:57   not it's not like I'm you know again you [TS]

00:25:59   whenever your own show we all would [TS]

00:26:01   often play let's spend Tim Cook's money [TS]

00:26:02   we're not just saying let's make it 99 [TS]

00:26:06   you know because worst we're not based [TS]

00:26:09   on reality it seems like based on on [TS]

00:26:11   other [TS]

00:26:12   laptops from other companies that you [TS]

00:26:14   could do a Retina screen on a 999 device [TS]

00:26:19   yeah but if they did that who buys you [TS]

00:26:22   know what that meant to me that makes [TS]

00:26:23   the the regular macbook at 1299 look too [TS]

00:26:27   expensive whoo yeah it sure does [TS]

00:26:32   especially since it's slower and I [TS]

00:26:34   realized it slower because it to be that [TS]

00:26:36   thin it has a fanless design and so it's [TS]

00:26:38   got like this entirely different uses an [TS]

00:26:42   entirely different chipset from Intel [TS]

00:26:44   that is designed so that it could run [TS]

00:26:45   and fanless Lee and never overheat and [TS]

00:26:48   the air uses like this mid-range chip [TS]

00:26:50   chip set that is low power compared to [TS]

00:26:52   like the pros but not so low power that [TS]

00:26:54   it doesn't need a fan [TS]

00:26:56   yeah i don't know i mean they yeah they [TS]

00:27:02   have spent I mean there's been a number [TS]

00:27:04   of years where they've their entry [TS]

00:27:06   laptop was 99 right and somewhere was [TS]

00:27:10   even more than that I think but that was [TS]

00:27:12   a long time ago [TS]

00:27:13   yeah and they are in an era where it's [TS]

00:27:19   increasingly hard to sell computers so [TS]

00:27:23   moving your starting price point up a [TS]

00:27:28   hundred bucks [TS]

00:27:29   mm I don't know if that's good i mean [TS]

00:27:32   that's not going to be great if you want [TS]

00:27:33   to move units and there's a compounded [TS]

00:27:37   with this is another rumor about [TS]

00:27:39   Thursday's update to the mac line that [TS]

00:27:41   the 11-inch air is going to just quote [TS]

00:27:43   go away [TS]

00:27:44   yeah I wouldn't be surprised if no I [TS]

00:27:48   wouldn't either if it did if it vanished [TS]

00:27:50   but I also wouldn't be surprised if it [TS]

00:27:53   sort of goes the way of that [TS]

00:27:54   13-inch ancient macbook pro that we were [TS]

00:27:56   talking about where it goes away in [TS]

00:27:59   terms of it it really is never going to [TS]

00:28:01   be updated again not even like a minor [TS]

00:28:02   spectra fresh but that they'll keep [TS]

00:28:05   selling it as is and not even really [TS]

00:28:07   promote it but it's there [TS]

00:28:09   you can go into every budget yeah maybe [TS]

00:28:11   the justifier even drop the price to 799 [TS]

00:28:13   or something [TS]

00:28:14   yeah that would be really kind of [TS]

00:28:17   amazing cuz I don't think they've ever [TS]

00:28:19   but I don't think they've ever been that [TS]

00:28:20   well no I think 899 is the lowest apples [TS]

00:28:22   ever so yeah man [TS]

00:28:23   for and that's you know that's been the [TS]

00:28:25   11-inch air for a while laptop [TS]

00:28:27   Yeah right right not counting something [TS]

00:28:29   incomplete like the mac mini yeah like a [TS]

00:28:32   complete blacktop system that you can [TS]

00:28:33   just open the box and use em think it's [TS]

00:28:37   not missing you know has no ram it has [TS]

00:28:40   no ramp at all for gags a lot it doesn't [TS]

00:28:46   have a battery kind of like it in [TS]

00:28:50   everywhere you go and plug in an [TS]

00:28:54   external art do you remember do every [TS]

00:28:55   years ago there was a rumor about a [TS]

00:28:58   crank powered man and i have left out [TS]

00:29:01   that no I don't think side like the one [TS]

00:29:04   has lab animals like with that after [TS]

00:29:06   after jobs and come back and I think [TS]

00:29:11   after the imac had been introduced [TS]

00:29:14   there were these rumors coming around [TS]

00:29:17   about the ibook and what it was going to [TS]

00:29:18   be and and wanna influence like one of [TS]

00:29:22   the crazier rumor sites was that it was [TS]

00:29:24   it was going to be it was going to crank [TS]

00:29:27   and what a boon that would be to people [TS]

00:29:32   because you know for all those instances [TS]

00:29:34   where you're running shine like if [TS]

00:29:36   you're camping such comments of area [TS]

00:29:40   right right and you need to use your [TS]

00:29:42   laptop you can just crank power it so i [TS]

00:29:46   know that there are build to order [TS]

00:29:47   options I can make these prices higher [TS]

00:29:50   but right now looking at the bio macbook [TS]

00:29:52   air page there's two 11-inch error [TS]

00:29:54   standard configs 899 and then you up two [TS]

00:29:58   hundred dollars to 1099 and you get [TS]

00:30:01   double the storage you go from 128 256 [TS]

00:30:04   and doesn't look like you can doesn't [TS]

00:30:09   look like you get anything else that's [TS]

00:30:11   about the only difference and then [TS]

00:30:13   there's a 13-inch macbook air that [TS]

00:30:15   starts at nine ninety-two that's weird [TS]

00:30:16   and one that's a two hundred dollars [TS]

00:30:19   higher 1199 call it twelve hundred [TS]

00:30:22   dollars and I think the only difference [TS]

00:30:25   there is double the storage from 128 [TS]

00:30:29   flash 256 yeah and it's weird to me that [TS]

00:30:32   the 13-inch comes in eight games of [TS]

00:30:36   comes with a case of memory in the 11th [TS]

00:30:39   is not right i don't know i guess he had [TS]

00:30:42   selected though can you [TS]

00:30:43   you can configure yeah you can tell you [TS]

00:30:44   can figure out you can see you get up it [TS]

00:30:46   and you can see significantly upgrade [TS]

00:30:48   the cpu you can go from a 1.6 core i5 to [TS]

00:30:52   a 2.2 core i7 yeah and I don't stay up [TS]

00:30:55   to date on all that stuff anymore but I [TS]

00:30:57   mean I know enough about the basic just [TS]

00:30:59   that going from core i5 core i7 is [TS]

00:31:01   pretty significant perform yes upgrade [TS]

00:31:04   right but they're not the standard [TS]

00:31:06   configs and I feel like the standard [TS]

00:31:08   configs really matter but what I'm [TS]

00:31:11   guessing if i had to guess what Apple is [TS]

00:31:13   going to do is I'm thinking that the [TS]

00:31:16   entry-level 13-inch macbook air will [TS]

00:31:20   still not have a Retina screen and I [TS]

00:31:23   guess if that's true that they're [TS]

00:31:24   getting rid of the 11 maybe it the [TS]

00:31:26   13-inch macbook air will now start at [TS]

00:31:28   eight ninety-nine but that it's a non [TS]

00:31:30   retina screen and that if you want to [TS]

00:31:32   get right now you're going to have to [TS]

00:31:33   pay at least like 1,200 bucks yeah and [TS]

00:31:36   then but it still seems weird to me that [TS]

00:31:38   you could pay like around 1,200 bucks to [TS]

00:31:41   get a 13-inch macbook air with all these [TS]

00:31:44   ports and then there's the 12 inch [TS]

00:31:46   retina macbook at this [TS]

00:31:49   thirteen hundred dollar starting price [TS]

00:31:51   like it just seems weird to me that [TS]

00:31:54   there that they're doing a new retina [TS]

00:31:56   macbook air [TS]

00:31:57   the other thing i could see is that they [TS]

00:32:00   upgrade is the other thing I can see is [TS]

00:32:02   they upgrade the 13-inch macbook air to [TS]

00:32:04   whatever the latest core i7 whatever [TS]

00:32:08   mobile chipset is from Intel but they [TS]

00:32:11   don't even really talked about it on [TS]

00:32:12   thursday they just upgrade it on the [TS]

00:32:14   website and it still doesn't have a [TS]

00:32:17   Retina screen and anybody who wants to [TS]

00:32:19   bitch about the fact that it doesn't [TS]

00:32:20   ever at the screen you know by different [TS]

00:32:22   by a different look [TS]

00:32:23   mhm yeah that seems to make the most [TS]

00:32:27   sense to me because that can imagine i'm [TS]

00:32:30   going to take the trouble putting a [TS]

00:32:32   retina into the air this point right and [TS]

00:32:35   I feel like you can argue well there's [TS]

00:32:37   other come you know the argument that [TS]

00:32:39   hey like the microsoft surface has a [TS]

00:32:40   retina caliber screen and it's only 999 [TS]

00:32:44   dollars or whatever and [TS]

00:32:45   you know Dell makes these things with [TS]

00:32:46   you know whatever they call read the [TS]

00:32:48   screens and they're cheap and it's like [TS]

00:32:50   you know apples never competed at the [TS]

00:32:51   low end on price and if anybody gets the [TS]

00:32:53   short end of the stick from Apple it's [TS]

00:32:55   absolutely the people who are more [TS]

00:32:57   budget-conscious that's just the way the [TS]

00:32:58   company is yeah you know it's the [TS]

00:33:02   company is optimized in my opinion for [TS]

00:33:04   people who are looking for the best [TS]

00:33:06   products not not the lowest price [TS]

00:33:08   products [TS]

00:33:09   yeah because the other thing too is in [TS]

00:33:14   addition to the just the fact that the [TS]

00:33:18   regular retina macbook is relatively [TS]

00:33:20   know it's clearly what Apple thinks the [TS]

00:33:23   future of laptops are there's also just [TS]

00:33:25   the simple fact that they gave it the [TS]

00:33:27   name macbook or hate it's like it yeah [TS]

00:33:29   it's not like we're reading interests [TS]

00:33:32   it's not like it's hard to read into [TS]

00:33:33   that that by calling it just plain [TS]

00:33:35   macbook with no adjectives that Apple is [TS]

00:33:37   saying you know maybe not now but soon [TS]

00:33:40   this is the standard this is what you [TS]

00:33:42   this is what the standard apple laptop [TS]

00:33:43   is yeah and it really is weird to have [TS]

00:33:47   one's called air that are thicker and [TS]

00:33:49   heavier like it makes no sense [TS]

00:33:53   well yeah that mean that's just seems to [TS]

00:33:55   be wide it's obvious that it seemed [TS]

00:33:58   obvious at least that it was going away [TS]

00:33:59   right so it seems very strange that [TS]

00:34:02   there's these rumors that it's standing [TS]

00:34:04   around I mean the other thing is they [TS]

00:34:05   did it wouldn't be the first time that [TS]

00:34:07   they have updated a model that's only [TS]

00:34:12   been out for like six months because [TS]

00:34:14   they did it with the ipad yeah they did [TS]

00:34:16   that with the ipad 33 right and any ipad [TS]

00:34:20   for came out like six months later [TS]

00:34:21   because i have three was sort of sort of [TS]

00:34:23   thicker you know it was the first [TS]

00:34:25   retinol i believe right yeah I could see [TS]

00:34:29   it you know and again with the pc stuff [TS]

00:34:32   it seems you know that I don't think [TS]

00:34:33   that they're anywhere near as [TS]

00:34:36   constrained you know a component wise as [TS]

00:34:42   they are with especially the iphone but [TS]

00:34:44   probably the ipad 2 where they kind of [TS]

00:34:46   need to get their ducks in a row and has [TS]

00:34:50   a look we're going to have you know 70 [TS]

00:34:53   million of these system-on-a-chip for [TS]

00:34:55   the next year for all these iphone 7 and [TS]

00:34:57   are all going to be exactly the same [TS]

00:34:58   like I don't I think with the macbook it [TS]

00:35:01   you know it's not anywhere near is you [TS]

00:35:03   know we need to be making the exact same [TS]

00:35:05   device for an entire year just to break [TS]

00:35:07   even on the on the manufacturer [TS]

00:35:11   mhm a lot but i would like to see which [TS]

00:35:15   is probably not going to happen though [TS]

00:35:16   is it is an 11-inch macbook air 13-inch [TS]

00:35:18   macbook like I kind of want to the fact [TS]

00:35:23   that they've the fact that they've done [TS]

00:35:24   a 12-inch now though that doesn't seem [TS]

00:35:26   like that's gonna happen [TS]

00:35:26   yeah and i'm not sure how the I've never [TS]

00:35:29   actually put like the 12-inch next to [TS]

00:35:31   the 11-inch macbook air and just seen [TS]

00:35:33   how they compare because i think that [TS]

00:35:36   the display does kind of go more edge to [TS]

00:35:38   edge on the macbook like footprint wise [TS]

00:35:40   they might be very similar [TS]

00:35:43   yeah i think they are so I kind of feel [TS]

00:35:45   I mean it seems like I mean I you know [TS]

00:35:47   I've only played with one a few times [TS]

00:35:49   but it does not seem demands probably [TS]

00:35:52   larger than the 11 chair [TS]

00:35:54   yeah let's see what the text back so [TS]

00:35:56   yeah we can find that out so it is 11 [TS]

00:36:00   inches the macbook is 11 inches wide and [TS]

00:36:05   7.74 deep all right at the 11-inch [TS]

00:36:09   macbook air is 11.8 inches wide and 7.5 [TS]

00:36:14   six inches deep so on dad yet it's [TS]

00:36:17   almost the same but it is right it is a [TS]

00:36:20   eight tenths of an inch narrower the but [TS]

00:36:25   that the 12-inch MacBook is narrower oh [TS]

00:36:29   you're right [TS]

00:36:30   yes for the other way around I'm an [TS]

00:36:32   idiot now yeah it was it but it's been [TS]

00:36:34   traumatic but it's only for smaller [TS]

00:36:36   right well but it's deeper right yeah [TS]

00:36:38   but just by a little bit right so maybe [TS]

00:36:41   with that design maybe what it would be [TS]

00:36:43   would be a 14-inch you know maybe 12 12 [TS]

00:36:46   inch and 14 and 14 i can see that and [TS]

00:36:49   then it may be the mirrors are wrong [TS]

00:36:50   calling it third rage calling 13 because [TS]

00:36:52   maybe it's one of those things where [TS]

00:36:54   it's like I don't know 13-point [TS]

00:36:56   something and apples just going to get [TS]

00:36:59   close enough to 14 that Apple is going [TS]

00:37:00   to call it 14 yeah I could [TS]

00:37:06   as a way to square this circle as well [TS]

00:37:08   if the truth is that there is no update [TS]

00:37:10   to the macbook air and what they're [TS]

00:37:11   going to do is unavailable big brother [TS]

00:37:13   to the 12 inch retina macbook i can see [TS]

00:37:16   that maybe even have a second USBC port [TS]

00:37:21   yeah and then you have a laptop set 12 [TS]

00:37:27   13 14 15 [TS]

00:37:29   yeah that kind of makes some sense and [TS]

00:37:32   suppose although i don't know if it [TS]

00:37:33   makes sense for the consumer ones to cut [TS]

00:37:35   quote-unquote have larger displays than [TS]

00:37:36   the pro ones I don't know [TS]

00:37:38   well I think some people some people [TS]

00:37:41   seem to like that 13 inch air [TS]

00:37:45   I've always been and always liked the [TS]

00:37:49   smaller one but you know people who just [TS]

00:37:55   want more screen real estate right for [TS]

00:37:57   people who don't see the wealth i used [TS]

00:37:59   an 11-inch for years and many years at [TS]

00:38:02   least five years for 5 years four years [TS]

00:38:05   i think and loved it but my thinking at [TS]

00:38:08   the time was if you're going to go small [TS]

00:38:10   and then go small and thin as you can [TS]

00:38:13   and get light so i got a maxed-out [TS]

00:38:14   performance-wise 11 chair and then when [TS]

00:38:17   i switch to a 13-inch macbook pro two [TS]

00:38:19   years ago it was on the basis of if I'm [TS]

00:38:21   gonna carry something thicker and [TS]

00:38:24   heavier i might as well get the the pro [TS]

00:38:27   and get the performance rather than the [TS]

00:38:29   13-inch air [TS]

00:38:31   yeah yeah and I mean that I'm in that [TS]

00:38:34   quandary right now because my so my air [TS]

00:38:39   is forward years old and then my my imac [TS]

00:38:43   upstairs have two machines upstairs [TS]

00:38:45   let's do it used for a sort of media [TS]

00:38:46   server things one is a 2010 macbook pro [TS]

00:38:50   and then the other one is a 2007 imac [TS]

00:38:53   and those are definitely definitely [TS]

00:38:56   showing their age so I'm kind of liking [TS]

00:38:58   that that space where I was like am I [TS]

00:39:00   going to buy another like the low-end [TS]

00:39:02   laptop just to carry around and do [TS]

00:39:05   writing with or am I gonna split the [TS]

00:39:08   differentiating and get together get the [TS]

00:39:09   pro and do whatever power stuff i need [TS]

00:39:12   to do on that well any other thing too [TS]

00:39:14   is that by all accounts the pro I mean [TS]

00:39:16   of course the pros getting thinner [TS]

00:39:17   because that's what Apple does as they [TS]

00:39:18   make stuff thinner [TS]

00:39:19   read the when they finally got you know [TS]

00:39:21   the current models when they are the [TS]

00:39:25   world's first ones that you don't even [TS]

00:39:26   have the option of getting a spinning [TS]

00:39:27   hard disk in because they're actually [TS]

00:39:29   too thin you have to use SSD the new [TS]

00:39:31   ones are going to be even thinner so [TS]

00:39:32   they're getting as thin as the air is [TS]

00:39:34   used to be even if they're not [TS]

00:39:35   wedge-shaped I mean they're getting [TS]

00:39:37   there certainly approaching that like [TS]

00:39:39   that so the air is getting squeezed out [TS]

00:39:40   to me in almost every way imaginable [TS]

00:39:42   it's getting squeezed out on thinnest by [TS]

00:39:44   the pros it's getting squeezed out on [TS]

00:39:46   you know retina screen by the macbook [TS]

00:39:50   the name macbook tells you that you know [TS]

00:39:52   it's becoming the standard default [TS]

00:39:55   laptop everything other than having a [TS]

00:39:59   low price and if the whole point is to [TS]

00:40:01   have a low price [TS]

00:40:02   I don't see how it's going to get a read [TS]

00:40:03   the screen just because it makes the [TS]

00:40:07   other ones look bad but yeah what people [TS]

00:40:09   i guess the other thing we're talking [TS]

00:40:10   around is the fact that there are tens [TS]

00:40:14   of thousands of people listening to this [TS]

00:40:15   podcast right now who desperately want [TS]

00:40:17   Apple to just make a macbook air with [TS]

00:40:20   retina screen probably true [TS]

00:40:23   right but I really don't think it's [TS]

00:40:25   gonna happen it reminds me of the switch [TS]

00:40:27   from the classic mac OS to Mac os10 in a [TS]

00:40:31   way where what diehard mac users really [TS]

00:40:35   wanted was a new version of the mac OS [TS]

00:40:37   that was you know just had the the [TS]

00:40:40   better [TS]

00:40:41   Colonel just give us like a real [TS]

00:40:43   operating system with you know [TS]

00:40:45   pre-emptive are not pre-emptive [TS]

00:40:47   multitasking with right you know real [TS]

00:40:48   multitasking instead of cooperative or a [TS]

00:40:50   pre-emptive is the good multitasking [TS]

00:40:52   cooperative multitasking was that was [TS]

00:40:54   the euphemism right this is not very [TS]

00:40:58   cooperative [TS]

00:41:00   I would call it that prisoners dilemma [TS]

00:41:02   multi-way about right way I can like me [TS]

00:41:11   IDC i could just use the whole cpu but I [TS]

00:41:14   mr. ask voluntarily not too [TS]

00:41:17   hmm but I on that users really wanted [TS]

00:41:24   I'm going to jail [TS]

00:41:25   all the accuser's really wanted was a [TS]

00:41:28   new version of the mac OS that had a [TS]

00:41:29   stable modern you know [TS]

00:41:32   yeah I'm Peter sighs perspective [TS]

00:41:34   operating system and instead we we gotta [TS]

00:41:36   think we've got everything was different [TS]

00:41:38   and a lot of stuff that used to be fast [TS]

00:41:42   was suddenly very slow to make it fancy [TS]

00:41:44   etcetera etcetera and I sort of feel [TS]

00:41:46   like Apple is doing the same thing with [TS]

00:41:48   the transition from the macbook air to [TS]

00:41:50   the macbook which is that what what many [TS]

00:41:53   people I hear from them every time I [TS]

00:41:54   bring it up on during fireballer on this [TS]

00:41:56   podcast i hear all the time i see it on [TS]

00:41:58   Twitter all the time is people like the [TS]

00:42:02   macbook air [TS]

00:42:03   I or love the macbook air and only thing [TS]

00:42:06   they don't like about it is the non [TS]

00:42:08   retina screen and so why doesn't Apple [TS]

00:42:10   just just put our retina screen in the [TS]

00:42:12   macbook air and they'll just buy it but [TS]

00:42:15   I don't think it's where Apple wants to [TS]

00:42:17   take things [TS]

00:42:18   yeah well we're gonna do all right what [TS]

00:42:24   about what about what about other other [TS]

00:42:28   max well let's that got up after this [TS]

00:42:31   back let me take a break and tell you [TS]

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00:43:44   everything in the pillows it's just it's [TS]

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00:43:51   too good to be true how can the prices [TS]

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00:43:54   stores will because the other the [TS]

00:43:55   regular mattress industry it's just a [TS]

00:43:57   ripoff [TS]

00:43:58   it's you know it's all these markups [TS]

00:44:00   with these middlemen you got these [TS]

00:44:01   salespeople they purposefully the other [TS]

00:44:04   brands that I'm not going to name names [TS]

00:44:05   but you know like Celie they they they [TS]

00:44:09   purposely give their mattresses these [TS]

00:44:12   weird names were if you go from one [TS]

00:44:13   store to another the same mattress like [TS]

00:44:16   if you cut it open as like a different [TS]

00:44:18   name so that you can't price compare its [TS]

00:44:20   it's purposely made to confuse the [TS]

00:44:22   consumer and to help the the retail [TS]

00:44:25   stores sort of obfuscate how much these [TS]

00:44:27   things really cost Casper sells direct [TS]

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00:44:54   sure it's still true if you live in New [TS]

00:44:55   York City you can get them delivered [TS]

00:44:56   they come to you on bicycle that's how [TS]

00:44:58   small the boxes some some poor step on a [TS]

00:45:02   bike strapped to his back and delivers [TS]

00:45:05   it to your house pretty cool thing if [TS]

00:45:06   you think about it that's how small the [TS]

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00:45:19   me I've had a couple readers who bought [TS]

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00:45:32   talkshow to say fifty bucks on any human [TS]

00:45:35   mattress [TS]

00:45:37   but your dog deserves the best anyway he [TS]

00:45:43   gets the best your dog sleep like in the [TS]

00:45:46   same spot all the time [TS]

00:45:48   no he has a he has an old futon on the [TS]

00:45:52   floor that time he sleeps on that he [TS]

00:45:54   supposed to sleep on but half the time [TS]

00:45:55   is up on the bed my child of a dog [TS]

00:45:59   Chester and I love that dog god damn i [TS]

00:46:02   love that he was a mean little little [TS]

00:46:04   love like a poodle mix forget what he [TS]

00:46:10   was mixer I think like a Pekinese ok he [TS]

00:46:13   was somewhere it was of it we gotta [TS]

00:46:15   marry me pican easier mean Karen my wife [TS]

00:46:18   had Pekinese growing up and yeah they [TS]

00:46:20   were just seen by us look at ya [TS]

00:46:22   oh yeah hit me a couple times but I [TS]

00:46:24   deserved it I was teased them so you [TS]

00:46:26   know I mean fair's fair [TS]

00:46:27   I love that dog but I'll tell you what [TS]

00:46:28   we get you couldn't tell him where to [TS]

00:46:30   sleep [TS]

00:46:31   I mean if I think this sure is a way to [TS]

00:46:34   make sure he didn't sleep on a dog [TS]

00:46:36   mattress would have been to buy him a [TS]

00:46:37   dog Patrick no other max yeah so this is [TS]

00:46:47   where everybody seems to be fuzzy is [TS]

00:46:49   that what else are they going to [TS]

00:46:52   announce so the mac pro is hasn't been [TS]

00:46:56   updated said last update according to [TS]

00:46:58   MacRumors was a July of 1998 was the [TS]

00:47:05   last time that the mac pro was updated [TS]

00:47:08   so it has been when it was when it was [TS]

00:47:10   called DM the powermac 18 years [TS]

00:47:15   encounter then it's unchanged in 18 [TS]

00:47:20   years now that is unusually long for the [TS]

00:47:23   mac pro so yeah that 1i i would say most [TS]

00:47:27   people would agree that the mac pro is [TS]

00:47:30   due for it up there was blue right it [TS]

00:47:33   was the right one [TS]

00:47:36   I there are no rumors of a nut mac pro [TS]

00:47:39   update but the mac pro is famously it's [TS]

00:47:44   it made in America are manufactured in [TS]

00:47:47   America so it's a completely different [TS]

00:47:49   supply chain so any you know and I I [TS]

00:47:51   can't help but think that it was going [TS]

00:47:52   to turn out like five little quarter [TS]

00:47:55   network very busy very busy operate like [TS]

00:48:02   the easiest job in it is this job means [TS]

00:48:05   every company guy what a graduate of its [TS]

00:48:08   fully stocked all of this all the [TS]

00:48:10   soldering himself just worn grooves on [TS]

00:48:14   the dasi from those feet go up every day [TS]

00:48:18   okay he's all cut up on westworld [TS]

00:48:25   imagine the phone rings Tim Cook what [TS]

00:48:32   and the update [TS]

00:48:36   oh no all the sudden it as the phone [TS]

00:48:39   rings he hears like a truck backing up [TS]

00:48:40   parts all over i would not be surprised [TS]

00:48:48   i have absolutely no inside info nobody [TS]

00:48:50   has said a damn word to me about any mac [TS]

00:48:53   pro's I just common sense says to me [TS]

00:48:55   that they've either got updated soon or [TS]

00:48:58   they've got to just officially say you [TS]

00:49:00   know not making anymore we're not making [TS]

00:49:03   it any more [TS]

00:49:04   yeah but it just seems on you it just [TS]

00:49:06   seems like they need to have this device [TS]

00:49:08   in my weights [TS]

00:49:10   yeah although how many I mean the late [TS]

00:49:14   yeah they don't probably don't sell that [TS]

00:49:15   many they're crazy expensive and they [TS]

00:49:19   come with their own quirks but that [TS]

00:49:21   there's a great looking device but but i [TS]

00:49:24   still think that they really want to own [TS]

00:49:27   or not own i'm not saying that they own [TS]

00:49:29   it so but they want to be known as the [TS]

00:49:32   leading computer maker for the [TS]

00:49:34   quote-unquote pro industry whether it's [TS]

00:49:37   professional video people people who are [TS]

00:49:39   you know [TS]

00:49:40   editing movies people who are [TS]

00:49:44   professional photographers who are [TS]

00:49:46   working with you know 50 gigabyte raw [TS]

00:49:50   files you know wherever you you know [TS]

00:49:54   whatever the program developers of [TS]

00:49:55   course you know i think even for their [TS]

00:49:57   own use [TS]

00:49:58   it's a useful device i mean the imac is [TS]

00:50:00   pretty fast and has a nice display but [TS]

00:50:02   you know it developing software is still [TS]

00:50:06   one of those things where having of the [TS]

00:50:08   fastest cpu possible can definitely make [TS]

00:50:10   you know your daily day-to-day life [TS]

00:50:12   better so I i don't think that they it [TS]

00:50:16   just seems unusual for me and I don't [TS]

00:50:18   think they need to ever touch the [TS]

00:50:19   industrial design again remember i [TS]

00:50:22   should say ever but you know that [TS]

00:50:24   macbook a macpro that looks exactly like [TS]

00:50:26   the black cylindrical thing that we know [TS]

00:50:29   it just has a new GPU and cpu yeah and [TS]

00:50:35   you know all these modern ports like us [TS]

00:50:38   bc and asset receptor just seems like [TS]

00:50:41   something Apple should sell so i [TS]

00:50:43   wouldn't be surprised at all if they [TS]

00:50:44   have it ready to go on thursday and we [TS]

00:50:45   just haven't heard about it because they [TS]

00:50:47   were able to keep it secret because it's [TS]

00:50:49   not going through the agent supply June [TS]

00:50:52   that looks like a sieve right yeah well [TS]

00:50:56   i think i think would be nice [TS]

00:50:57   I mean I hope they don't i don't know [TS]

00:50:59   I'm not in the market for one problem [TS]

00:51:00   never gonna be in the market for one but [TS]

00:51:02   I i agree with that sentiment that it [TS]

00:51:07   seems like the kind of thing that they [TS]

00:51:08   should keep making is sort of a even if [TS]

00:51:10   it's just like putting a flag in the [TS]

00:51:12   ground [TS]

00:51:13   I think there's some speculation that [TS]

00:51:16   people who follow these intel chipsets [TS]

00:51:20   you know that maybe the timing isn't [TS]

00:51:22   really quite right for a new mac pro [TS]

00:51:24   because like the last update to the z [TS]

00:51:28   online of proteins and cpus was you know [TS]

00:51:30   like may or something like that so you [TS]

00:51:32   think that maybe if they were going to [TS]

00:51:33   do it they would have done it in june [TS]

00:51:35   and now they're sort of like only just a [TS]

00:51:38   few months away from like the next one [TS]

00:51:40   with called like gravy train or [TS]

00:51:41   something like that I don't think apple [TS]

00:51:44   is all that I i think at this point when [TS]

00:51:46   they've gone this far between updates to [TS]

00:51:47   Mac Pro's I i think if there's six [TS]

00:51:50   months late on the latest xeon [TS]

00:51:52   processors [TS]

00:51:53   so what right i don't know yet there [TS]

00:51:57   I don't know that they're looking at [TS]

00:51:58   keeping the mac pro within a couple of [TS]

00:52:01   weeks of the Intel cutting-edge yeah I [TS]

00:52:05   don't know what do you think well I mean [TS]

00:52:06   I i think if you [TS]

00:52:08   it depends on what else you're [TS]

00:52:09   announcing with it maybe in and if [TS]

00:52:11   they're announcing it within with new [TS]

00:52:13   monitors then maybe that becomes the [TS]

00:52:17   bigger story than right whatever [TS]

00:52:19   processors in a that's exactly where I [TS]

00:52:22   was headed ton so maybe the reason that [TS]

00:52:24   they haven't updated the mac pro in such [TS]

00:52:27   an absurdly long time is that they [TS]

00:52:29   really wanted the quote-unquote next Mac [TS]

00:52:32   Pro to work with the next a apple cinema [TS]

00:52:36   display appetizing sold at this place in [TS]

00:52:38   June since they discontinued the [TS]

00:52:39   non-retina whatever they called it in [TS]

00:52:42   another conspicuous absence from the [TS]

00:52:45   apple product lineup is a retina pro [TS]

00:52:49   display whenever they want to call it [TS]

00:52:51   you know cinema display 5k whatever but [TS]

00:52:54   you know something like the big imac [TS]

00:52:58   display with retina resolution and the [TS]

00:53:01   the high color gamut range and a simple [TS]

00:53:05   it just works just plug this thing into [TS]

00:53:07   your mac and you know you don't have to [TS]

00:53:10   worry about plugging two or three cables [TS]

00:53:11   in because you need to graphics cards to [TS]

00:53:13   knit stitch together or whatever just [TS]

00:53:16   solve all the problems of the bandwidth [TS]

00:53:18   of driving the 5k retina display you [TS]

00:53:21   worry about apple just give me a simple [TS]

00:53:23   thing to plug in so maybe they were [TS]

00:53:25   waiting for that and maybe they bought [TS]

00:53:27   previously that maybe they'd have [TS]

00:53:29   something like that ready earlier but it [TS]

00:53:31   all kind of needs to come together it [TS]

00:53:33   seems to me like some of this stuff is a [TS]

00:53:35   it all needs to come at once and that [TS]

00:53:38   sort of has maybe been the main cause of [TS]

00:53:41   this unusual dearth of mac updates [TS]

00:53:44   hardware updates yeah that they kind of [TS]

00:53:48   want to move to this world where there's [TS]

00:53:50   USBC ports that do thunderbolt and that [TS]

00:53:52   can be connected to a 5k cinema display [TS]

00:53:54   but it all kind of needs to come at once [TS]

00:53:58   maybe yeah so I can i yeah it seems like [TS]

00:54:02   I mean that's kind of their thing right [TS]

00:54:03   i mean they don't know where [TS]

00:54:05   other companies are happy to introduce a [TS]

00:54:07   technology and say hey now we have this [TS]

00:54:11   ok we have you have that but it doesn't [TS]

00:54:12   work with everything else [TS]

00:54:15   Apple wants to make sure that everything [TS]

00:54:16   works you know at least you know in [TS]

00:54:19   general works better together and [TS]

00:54:22   creates and and creates a story that [TS]

00:54:26   makes that tries to make that whole [TS]

00:54:28   package compelling alright so so I think [TS]

00:54:32   there's definitely something to that [TS]

00:54:34   argument it's also the case i know a ton [TS]

00:54:36   of people who connect their macbook pros [TS]

00:54:41   to a display at their desk and that they [TS]

00:54:44   therefore you know that so that like at [TS]

00:54:47   work you have a nice big display in [TS]

00:54:50   front of you [TS]

00:54:51   maybe two displays if you keep your [TS]

00:54:52   macbook open on the side you could do it [TS]

00:54:55   either way and then at the end of the [TS]

00:54:56   day you can just disconnect the thing [TS]

00:54:58   and take the macbook pro home with you [TS]

00:55:00   and you just have the macbook pro i know [TS]

00:55:02   tons of people who work like that [TS]

00:55:03   I know that here and filling my friends [TS]

00:55:05   and happy cog a great web development [TS]

00:55:08   studio or web design studio they [TS]

00:55:10   redesign the whole office around that [TS]

00:55:11   concept they just everybody's desk all [TS]

00:55:14   they have at their desk is a display and [TS]

00:55:16   then everybody everybody gets a macbook [TS]

00:55:19   pro and that's how everybody works you [TS]

00:55:21   don't have to sit at the same spot every [TS]

00:55:23   day you can just you know just walk up [TS]

00:55:26   to any open display and plug it in and [TS]

00:55:28   you get power and display nobody wants [TS]

00:55:31   nobody wants designers don't want to [TS]

00:55:33   work with non retina displays anymore [TS]

00:55:36   I mean it actually is actually broken [TS]

00:55:38   heart you you can't design retina [TS]

00:55:40   graphics without a radio display I mean [TS]

00:55:41   it's you know and developers you know I [TS]

00:55:43   know that they were talking about an ATP [TS]

00:55:45   this week we're akc list was talking [TS]

00:55:47   about how he's trying to design the [TS]

00:55:49   retina iphone apps on a non retina [TS]

00:55:51   display and you end up doing you like to [TS]

00:55:53   run the app on your phone and you [TS]

00:55:55   realize there's all these graphics that [TS]

00:55:56   are missing you can even see them on [TS]

00:55:58   your display you know really it's it's [TS]

00:56:01   you know it you can do it technically in [TS]

00:56:04   the same way that you could you could do [TS]

00:56:07   an illustration with your eyes closed [TS]

00:56:08   right just just may not turn out right [TS]

00:56:14   you don't have to wear your glasses yeah [TS]

00:56:17   you just take a guess as to whether it's [TS]

00:56:19   in focus and again they'll be they'll be [TS]

00:56:23   crazy if they do come will be crazy [TS]

00:56:25   expensive [TS]

00:56:26   oh I well I don't know but I mean they [TS]

00:56:29   think well I don't know their to the way [TS]

00:56:31   to expend more it I mean I will I will [TS]

00:56:33   not be my one but what does what does [TS]

00:56:35   the retina 5k imax started let's see [TS]

00:56:38   it's not like 1500 dogs and it was [TS]

00:56:41   exactly was gonna say 1,500 books [TS]

00:56:43   27-inch imac with retina 5k display [TS]

00:56:47   well now it's a little bit more [TS]

00:56:48   expensive that starts in two hundred [TS]

00:56:49   dollars okay i would think that they [TS]

00:56:53   could sell that display without the [TS]

00:56:55   computer inside for I don't know maybe [TS]

00:56:57   twelve hundred dollars i don't know I [TS]

00:57:00   knew but the onions and apples of 27 [TS]

00:57:02   inch display was 999 and it was kind of [TS]

00:57:06   ridiculous about the end of its life [TS]

00:57:07   that they were still readily hit 99 like [TS]

00:57:10   that is part of what makes this [TS]

00:57:11   laughable is I understand why Apple set [TS]

00:57:14   a price and then keeps the price for the [TS]

00:57:16   entire product lifetime as opposed to [TS]

00:57:18   Del which sort of Dell's computers are [TS]

00:57:21   sort of like the stock market where they [TS]

00:57:22   get repriced everyday based on you know [TS]

00:57:24   there are fluctuations [TS]

00:57:26   it's true though it really is it's it's [TS]

00:57:29   like you can come you know I mean you [TS]

00:57:30   can configure the x-ray machine Adele [TS]

00:57:32   like a week later and it's you know it's [TS]

00:57:34   more like buying an airplane ticket like [TS]

00:57:36   the paint anything about it and then [TS]

00:57:39   lots of sales from other like-minded the [TS]

00:57:41   time i bought my my kid up a pc laptop a [TS]

00:57:45   few couple years ago for Christmas and [TS]

00:57:47   and yeah like navigating that whole [TS]

00:57:49   thing like well it's you know not only [TS]

00:57:50   place this but this you know get this [TS]

00:57:52   new coupon sale yeah okay great so I got [TS]

00:57:57   you know I got what you know its do its [TS]

00:57:59   it ostensibly the price was like 850 and [TS]

00:58:02   i got it for 750 or something like that [TS]

00:58:04   I mean it's like Apple would never do [TS]

00:58:05   that [TS]

00:58:07   you got a coupon and a Retina display [TS]

00:58:14   type in this code the I don't know if I [TS]

00:58:22   should tell the story and i guess i will [TS]

00:58:24   take that was one of the worst things [TS]

00:58:25   I've ever it at worst I ever felt about [TS]

00:58:27   myself in my life I was in college and [TS]

00:58:33   this middle of the day and there's [TS]

00:58:35   africa i can think of [TS]

00:58:37   actually forget forget the name of the [TS]

00:58:39   student union even though i spent like [TS]

00:58:40   12 10 hours a day in the building [TS]

00:58:42   because it was where this school [TS]

00:58:43   newspaper was and I was going in and out [TS]

00:58:46   of the building for reasons that I no [TS]

00:58:48   longer remember but it was some kind of [TS]

00:58:50   task it was like first maybe like first [TS]

00:58:52   day of a new semester and there was [TS]

00:58:54   something me and another colleague from [TS]

00:58:56   the student newspaper at drexel we're [TS]

00:58:57   doing where it required us to keep going [TS]

00:59:00   back in and out of the building middle [TS]

00:59:02   of the afternoon [TS]

00:59:03   nice sunny day and there's some kid also [TS]

00:59:06   a college kid obviously be taking a job [TS]

00:59:08   from somebody to hand out little some [TS]

00:59:11   kind of flyer two kids coming in and we [TS]

00:59:16   weren't coming in like every minute or [TS]

00:59:17   so is maybe like every 20 minutes or so [TS]

00:59:19   and every time we went by he would offer [TS]

00:59:22   them to us as though we've never seen us [TS]

00:59:24   again and then there's this moment of [TS]

00:59:25   recognition and it's like oh you guys [TS]

00:59:27   again and do it and after like the [TS]

00:59:31   seventh time and he did it again any was [TS]

00:59:34   almost apologetic he I said what are [TS]

00:59:36   these coupons coupons and he said [TS]

00:59:40   they're there coupons and I said well I [TS]

00:59:43   only take coupons my friend who i was [TS]

00:59:48   with almost died of laughter he said I [TS]

00:59:51   can't believe that guy didn't just punch [TS]

00:59:52   you and I was like you know you probably [TS]

00:59:54   should of but because that is that was [TS]

00:59:58   uncalled for it was not on call [TS]

00:59:58   uncalled for it was not on call [TS]

01:00:00   for anything at the time i was i amused [TS]

01:00:03   myself to death with that but i'm i'm a [TS]

01:00:05   changed man I've grown up I'd I no [TS]

01:00:07   longer see this [TS]

01:00:08   well i just i do see it is funny but I [TS]

01:00:11   no longer see it as something that I [TS]

01:00:12   would actually say yea it is definitely [TS]

01:00:16   funny in think you know college I mean I [TS]

01:00:20   yeah I mean well i'm not i'm not going [TS]

01:00:22   over things that in Catholic but the [TS]

01:00:24   funny thing i remember was that when I [TS]

01:00:25   said it I didn't expect him to give me [TS]

01:00:27   an answer I expected him when i said [TS]

01:00:29   that the coupons coupons I expected him [TS]

01:00:31   to give me the finger at that point here [TS]

01:00:33   right [TS]

01:00:34   he didn't even hesitate he didn't even [TS]

01:00:36   hesitate he said their coupons i [TS]

01:00:38   remember that he said there he said [TS]

01:00:40   coupons coupons and I just all I only [TS]

01:00:44   accept coupe [TS]

01:00:47   I don't know what I don't know something [TS]

01:00:50   about that I haven't thought about that [TS]

01:00:51   so we're good yeah if that guy's [TS]

01:00:53   listening you know Josh and also if [TS]

01:00:57   you're free daring fireball teacher i [TS]

01:01:00   started yet yeah I haven't thought about [TS]

01:01:02   that story in 20 years so i just sent [TS]

01:01:06   you a link this happened while we were [TS]

01:01:07   recording apparently pictures of the of [TS]

01:01:13   the the bar leaked in Sierra their of [TS]

01:01:17   the retina macbook images of new macbook [TS]

01:01:21   pro with magic toolbar leaked in mac OS [TS]

01:01:24   Sierra 10-12 that one you know Apple [TS]

01:01:30   includes Apple pay so there is a like a [TS]

01:01:33   fingerprint sensor i also see that [TS]

01:01:38   they've printed a macrumors logo on the [TS]

01:01:41   return key and saw that I thought that [TS]

01:01:44   must be them now they're doing some [TS]

01:01:47   co-branding I guess [TS]

01:01:50   hey this is the bank yeah this is got a [TS]

01:01:54   dr phil schiller nuts [TS]

01:01:56   oh my god yeah right here how did they [TS]

01:01:58   do that I mean I where would I i guess [TS]

01:02:00   this was in the help i guess for ten [TS]

01:02:03   that time that one [TS]

01:02:05   well I'll put everybody by the time they [TS]

01:02:07   hear it will probably have seen it but I [TS]

01:02:08   will yeah everyone's probably putting a [TS]

01:02:10   link in the show notes we did you know [TS]

01:02:12   that's nice that we talked about first [TS]

01:02:13   is the way to go i have all could you do [TS]

01:02:18   it like 15 minutes earlier because they [TS]

01:02:21   yes they did nobody notice that I well [TS]

01:02:25   that brings us that brings us to the [TS]

01:02:29   next question I was going to have it [TS]

01:02:31   which is that I didn't have it in the [TS]

01:02:34   notes which is a what has been rumored [TS]

01:02:36   and it does make some sort of you know [TS]

01:02:38   simple sense that they were going to put [TS]

01:02:39   touch ID on the new macbooks my question [TS]

01:02:44   is where is it going to go like the just [TS]

01:02:47   the basic idea of having touch ID on a [TS]

01:02:49   macbook yeah sure that sounds it makes a [TS]

01:02:52   lot of sense especially once you get [TS]

01:02:53   used to it on a phone you realize how [TS]

01:02:54   nice it is but where would it go on a on [TS]

01:02:57   a macbook would it go on the trackpad [TS]

01:02:59   let it go on like the jakey let it go [TS]

01:03:04   and it looks like you know the answer is [TS]

01:03:07   they're putting it up in this upper [TS]

01:03:08   right corner of the magic toolbar [TS]

01:03:11   yeah and my other thought is even if [TS]

01:03:13   with this magic toolbar a would they put [TS]

01:03:17   it in a corner or put it in the middle [TS]

01:03:19   because it seems like by putting it in [TS]

01:03:21   me is it going to be on both corners it [TS]

01:03:23   doesn't seems like a waste of components [TS]

01:03:25   to put two in but on the other hand too [TS]

01:03:29   isn't it oddly bias towards right-handed [TS]

01:03:31   users by putting in a proper right [TS]

01:03:33   corner or am i over stand close i think [TS]

01:03:35   maybe you're overthinking and I mean and [TS]

01:03:37   you know unlocking with Matthew no [TS]

01:03:40   unlocked i'm assuming that the computer [TS]

01:03:42   locks with it too but unlocking and [TS]

01:03:44   paying with my left index finger would [TS]

01:03:47   be not really i want to receive either [TS]

01:03:50   and i can write as a right-hander yeah [TS]

01:03:52   but I put it but i would guess that it's [TS]

01:03:54   it's um it's configurable because I mean [TS]

01:03:57   that's the whole point of the thing [TS]

01:03:58   right [TS]

01:03:59   yeah but the whole thing can't be a [TS]

01:04:00   touch ID sensor right i mean yes [TS]

01:04:03   poznan that's right on yeah it would [TS]

01:04:06   seem unnecessarily I mean I guess it [TS]

01:04:07   could be but it seems like that would be [TS]

01:04:08   waiting for you to one in each corner [TS]

01:04:11   but right now it just seems like a waste [TS]

01:04:13   to that and i guess i guess the power [TS]

01:04:15   button is always been on the upper right [TS]

01:04:17   corner so you know seems like [TS]

01:04:18   left-handed macbook users have been able [TS]

01:04:20   to turn their computers on and on him [TS]

01:04:23   for a while so maybe I'm overthinking [TS]

01:04:25   that came over sensitive to my [TS]

01:04:28   left-handed friends maybe and maybe they [TS]

01:04:30   sell different models a left and a right [TS]

01:04:31   like buying all the clothes are already [TS]

01:04:37   there [TS]

01:04:37   there are likely models that have mac [TS]

01:04:39   rumors on the internet like particles [TS]

01:04:41   and scissors you can buy a left hand and [TS]

01:04:43   foot problem at the left or have to go [TS]

01:04:47   to the left or even though you know what [TS]

01:04:49   bothers me about this shot [TS]

01:04:50   really it does and it's it's I'm showing [TS]

01:04:53   my age and I got it just get used to it [TS]

01:04:55   but I look at this there's a picture of [TS]

01:04:58   its it's showing I guess it's from I get [TS]

01:05:01   you said it's from the help of of how to [TS]

01:05:03   use Apple pay somebody is making an [TS]

01:05:05   apple pay purchase the touchscreen the [TS]

01:05:07   little strip has a cancel button on the [TS]

01:05:09   left then it says Apple pay and then [TS]

01:05:12   something in red that I I can't read but [TS]

01:05:14   i'm guessing it that's as touch here [TS]

01:05:16   yeah touch your ID de Appel 904 course [TS]

01:05:21   is going to 326 books right can you get [TS]

01:05:23   from apple for three intrinsic then open [TS]

01:05:25   and you can also see what's on the [TS]

01:05:27   display [TS]

01:05:28   yeah no no they're buying beats always [TS]

01:05:30   headphones headphones you can also see [TS]

01:05:33   what's on the display and they're using [TS]

01:05:35   safari to buy something from apple.com [TS]

01:05:37   what bothers me is that they're running [TS]

01:05:39   it [TS]

01:05:40   they're running this mac with the menu [TS]

01:05:41   bar hidden yeah I really every bombers [TS]

01:05:46   full fullscreen fullscreen mode bothers [TS]

01:05:50   you [TS]

01:05:50   yeah I think you're going to enter [TS]

01:05:54   you're going to say it doesn't it [TS]

01:05:56   doesn't mean the Apple paysheet look [TS]

01:05:58   like it's um it's not connected at well [TS]

01:06:02   it doesn't maybe maybe it's okay [TS]

01:06:05   it almost looks like it's square it's [TS]

01:06:06   not that the perspectives of the [TS]

01:06:09   perspective is off [TS]

01:06:10   yeah maybe like yeah so do [TS]

01:06:14   so anyway I guess we're getting a touch [TS]

01:06:16   in text rip mama glad we settled that [TS]

01:06:21   yeah presumably if it is oled they're [TS]

01:06:25   saying it macrumors is saying it as fact [TS]

01:06:27   that it's an oled touch panel which you [TS]

01:06:30   certainly can't tell from the image but [TS]

01:06:32   it does make some sense that it's oled [TS]

01:06:34   and not LCD because it's going to be [TS]

01:06:36   black most of the time or the background [TS]

01:06:38   is going to be black all the time and [TS]

01:06:40   all that does much blacker blacks than [TS]

01:06:43   LCD and it's like I think the colors are [TS]

01:06:47   still messed up on oled but you [TS]

01:06:48   certainly can't complain about the [TS]

01:06:49   blacks this is then they also say a new [TS]

01:06:56   macbook air models all day same rumor i [TS]

01:06:58   guess yeah well there's that particular [TS]

01:07:05   they say they say new imacs or [TS]

01:07:07   possibility as well I think that I'm i [TS]

01:07:10   think that's true it just because i [TS]

01:07:12   think that the imac is still sort of the [TS]

01:07:14   you know it's the the default desktop [TS]

01:07:18   computer I mean it's obvious that the [TS]

01:07:20   mac pro or the mac mini mac mini and [TS]

01:07:23   updated in two years so why not you know [TS]

01:07:26   it's been a year it was october last [TS]

01:07:27   year why not just you know just do a [TS]

01:07:30   silent or not silent but you know but [TS]

01:07:32   you know just take the latest and [TS]

01:07:33   greatest from intelligent and stick it [TS]

01:07:35   in the gut [TS]

01:07:36   I can't see why they wouldn't do that [TS]

01:07:39   yeah yeah I don't know either [TS]

01:07:43   I mean but I don't look not sure why [TS]

01:07:46   they haven't updated the the mac pro in [TS]

01:07:48   the mac mini for write several years [TS]

01:07:51   alright so wrapping up i think that we [TS]

01:07:54   will see the new mac pro's I think we [TS]

01:07:58   don't know what the hell they're doing [TS]

01:07:59   with this quote unquote 13-inch other [TS]

01:08:02   model doesn't make any sense to us can't [TS]

01:08:06   wait to find out about that one [TS]

01:08:07   yeah I I don't know if I bet on new mac [TS]

01:08:12   pros but because it seems to me like you [TS]

01:08:14   could lose a lot of money over the last [TS]

01:08:15   three years by betting on new macros but [TS]

01:08:19   I would at least like to see new mac [TS]

01:08:21   pros and it seems like maybe they if [TS]

01:08:23   they've been waiting for retina display [TS]

01:08:25   maybe the time is right and [TS]

01:08:27   it if we can have one will see both well [TS]

01:08:29   then does it seem like I mean it i'm not [TS]

01:08:31   sure these just updating the laptop line [TS]

01:08:36   doesn't sound like enough for an event [TS]

01:08:38   doesn't I don't think so either [TS]

01:08:41   I mean we can continue about after the [TS]

01:08:42   sponsor break the major there's other [TS]

01:08:44   stuff they could announce that the mac [TS]

01:08:45   hardware but it does seem to me like if [TS]

01:08:48   it was really just if the only thing [TS]

01:08:49   that was really nunu like this is a new [TS]

01:08:51   design new is the macbook pros [TS]

01:08:53   I don't know that they would have an [TS]

01:08:54   event right so i don't know i mean we [TS]

01:08:58   certainly know everything you know [TS]

01:08:59   Sierra is already out [TS]

01:09:00   it's not like you know it's not like [TS]

01:09:02   they have new operating system to show [TS]

01:09:05   yeah I mean you know the only other [TS]

01:09:08   thing that ok you want to what you're [TS]

01:09:11   going to say like well do the air pods I [TS]

01:09:13   mean the death they would announce their [TS]

01:09:14   partnership shipping [TS]

01:09:15   yeah but that's not just the first thing [TS]

01:09:17   that takes time in an event for that I'm [TS]

01:09:19   no guessing that that's when they're [TS]

01:09:20   going to say that because they did say [TS]

01:09:22   late October and this event will be on [TS]

01:09:25   the twenty-seventh looking over so so [TS]

01:09:30   I'm hopeful i hope we're going to see [TS]

01:09:31   Mac Pro's we'll see i'm not going to bet [TS]

01:09:34   the house on it [TS]

01:09:35   I i would definitely not be surprised to [TS]

01:09:38   see that we have updated imax that look [TS]

01:09:40   exactly the same but just have updated [TS]

01:09:42   components i mean there's no point to [TS]

01:09:44   update it updating the the display right [TS]

01:09:48   yeah i mean that displayed all right in [TS]

01:09:49   that doesn't that doesn't make any sense [TS]

01:09:51   right it's already got the high color [TS]

01:09:52   gamut and all the pixels you want and [TS]

01:09:56   then there's that I guess the only thing [TS]

01:09:57   left is the mac mini which I don't think [TS]

01:09:59   they're going to it i don't i don't know [TS]

01:10:01   i know i think that might be like done [TS]

01:10:04   you think that we really well I don't [TS]

01:10:07   know or maybe it's sort of on a [TS]

01:10:09   permanent three or four years schedule i [TS]

01:10:11   don't know i just wouldn't be surprised [TS]

01:10:13   if Vienna I did the event comes and goes [TS]

01:10:16   and there's no news about the mac mini I [TS]

01:10:17   just wish that they would just you know [TS]

01:10:19   stickney processors in them i mean i do [TS]

01:10:22   too don't you don't have to change it [TS]

01:10:23   that much just put some new processors [TS]

01:10:25   in it and then [TS]

01:10:26   hey I know it's all it seems like that's [TS]

01:10:29   not that hard in your hands kind of [TS]

01:10:32   printing money doing it [TS]

01:10:34   ended well Apple's a very small company [TS]

01:10:36   i think that you know I don't know that [TS]

01:10:38   they have it but butter with all that [TS]

01:10:41   bandwidth you know the internal [TS]

01:10:42   bandwidth the update update a computer [TS]

01:10:47   that doesn't even a display or anything [TS]

01:10:49   mhm i would like to see them update the [TS]

01:10:51   mac mini i would like to see them keep [TS]

01:10:52   it updated i think the mac mini is an [TS]

01:10:54   interesting little device where yes [TS]

01:10:57   in many cases it's just the lowest price [TS]

01:10:59   apple official mac that you can buy [TS]

01:11:02   without you know building your own [TS]

01:11:03   hackintosh thing and it is just somebody [TS]

01:11:06   trying to build the cheapest desktop Mac [TS]

01:11:09   that they can get away with or you know [TS]

01:11:10   and and you know sensibly reuse existing [TS]

01:11:13   things like the display that they've [TS]

01:11:15   already got that's pretty if you have a [TS]

01:11:17   perfectly fine display you know that [TS]

01:11:19   this is perfectly fine low-cost math but [TS]

01:11:22   it's also a device and I'm sure that [TS]

01:11:25   like you know people who listen to my [TS]

01:11:26   podcast are among their where it's in [TS]

01:11:29   some ways it kind of is a power user [TS]

01:11:30   device because it's the sort of thing [TS]

01:11:32   that people who would set up like a [TS]

01:11:34   media server in their house would do [TS]

01:11:36   right where it's not like your power [TS]

01:11:38   user where you're spending a lot of [TS]

01:11:39   money on it but where you're doing [TS]

01:11:40   things that most typical consumers would [TS]

01:11:43   never even think to do em right like you [TS]

01:11:47   know you are build like your own you [TS]

01:11:48   know people i know you know people who [TS]

01:11:51   sort of rather than buy an Apple TV will [TS]

01:11:53   you know by a mac mini and sort of you [TS]

01:11:55   know select their own software that they [TS]

01:11:57   can use to drive their home [TS]

01:11:59   entertainment system [TS]

01:12:00   yeah so that maybe they can watch movies [TS]

01:12:02   that fell off a truck and stuff like [TS]

01:12:04   that it's not there's certain things [TS]

01:12:08   that you can do if you just have a pc [TS]

01:12:11   that you control connected to your TV [TS]

01:12:12   that you couldn't do so there are power [TS]

01:12:14   user it use cases for the mac mini and I [TS]

01:12:19   always you know I like to think of an [TS]

01:12:21   apple as a company that makes things [TS]

01:12:23   that people like that would like to buy [TS]

01:12:24   so i would like to see it but I I'm not [TS]

01:12:27   holding my breath for but maybe you know [TS]

01:12:29   maybe just like in the one fell swoop [TS]

01:12:32   now everything uses USB see you know [TS]

01:12:34   maybe they update the mac mini to just [TS]

01:12:36   to get us bc ports on [TS]

01:12:38   yeah I wish they would like them to do [TS]

01:12:40   that too I i would consider buying one [TS]

01:12:43   I've never owned one well actually I [TS]

01:12:44   mean I haven't [TS]

01:12:45   old one that somebody gave me but um I [TS]

01:12:47   never purchased one and i feel like i [TS]

01:12:51   might be in the market for one like if I [TS]

01:12:53   if I go to which I'm kind of leaning [TS]

01:12:55   towards right now is getting a macbook [TS]

01:12:57   pro again you know I just this is what [TS]

01:13:02   the IP that imac upstairs in that meant [TS]

01:13:04   that ancient macbook pro aren't gonna [TS]

01:13:06   last long either so and I mostly just [TS]

01:13:08   need the need a server like a media [TS]

01:13:10   server and so I would definitely [TS]

01:13:12   consider getting money for that [TS]

01:13:16   alright let me take a break and thank [TS]

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01:14:03   been around for a while many comic books [TS]

01:14:05   on tape [TS]

01:14:06   I mean that's how long I mean that I've [TS]

01:14:07   been familiar with them but it's just [TS]

01:14:09   one of those things that is exploded in [TS]

01:14:11   popularity with digital because you know [TS]

01:14:15   tapes are a little bit of a pain in the [TS]

01:14:16   ass [TS]

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01:14:32   totally extra dimension to the text just [TS]

01:14:35   a really cool idea if you think about it [TS]

01:14:37   or else what otherwise if they're often [TS]

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01:15:26   therefore you're in you know right there [TS]

01:15:28   in the target audience for them i would [TS]

01:15:30   i would wager that there's a higher [TS]

01:15:32   percentage of talk to your listeners who [TS]

01:15:34   listen to podcasts then there are who [TS]

01:15:37   sleep on mattresses it's probably a [TS]

01:15:39   better fit even than casper have you [TS]

01:15:41   know because some number of you probably [TS]

01:15:43   just sleep on the floor but if you're [TS]

01:15:45   listening to me again to you listen to [TS]

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01:15:57   sponsoring this show what do you think [TS]

01:15:59   there's a higher percentage of talks [TS]

01:16:00   your listeners who who listen to [TS]

01:16:02   podcasts or who sleep on a mattress i [TS]

01:16:09   think it's gotta be it's gotta be [TS]

01:16:11   listened to listen to i pod can i think [TS]

01:16:14   i think what could good security or what [TS]

01:16:16   were you know your numbers are in Japan [TS]

01:16:18   no i don't but it's nonzero thee right [TS]

01:16:21   right right [TS]

01:16:23   uh-huh it's nonzero so I think as much [TS]

01:16:26   as I can throw the whole thing off [TS]

01:16:28   god bless Casper I love them and I think [TS]

01:16:30   it's a great fit because almost [TS]

01:16:31   everybody sleeps on a mattress and needs [TS]

01:16:33   a new and eventually audible i think [TS]

01:16:35   might be the the greatest fit for the [TS]

01:16:38   podcast audience of all time because by [TS]

01:16:39   definition everybody everybody listens [TS]

01:16:41   to audio I mean in theory somebody I [TS]

01:16:44   don't have transcripts every week so I [TS]

01:16:45   mean in theory somebody could rig [TS]

01:16:47   something up where they're making their [TS]

01:16:48   own transcripts of the show and reading [TS]

01:16:50   them but I i would guess that that [TS]

01:16:53   number is smaller than the number of [TS]

01:16:54   people who don't have a mattress [TS]

01:16:57   they do transcripts are your show for [TS]

01:16:59   when you do a live one I do yeah well [TS]

01:17:02   yeah well somebody does it did that does [TS]

01:17:04   it was that uh uh uh yes this time [TS]

01:17:09   yeah already called one typed it up in [TS]

01:17:13   exchange for their being allowed to [TS]

01:17:14   publish it which was a good deal you [TS]

01:17:16   know i thought i was beyond deal and I [TS]

01:17:19   also pay a video for closed captions for [TS]

01:17:25   those so that the video has closed [TS]

01:17:28   captions and I forget what it is coupled [TS]

01:17:31   yeah I don't know yeah it's a real you [TS]

01:17:33   know it's a good not it's you know like [TS]

01:17:35   this it's not free but it was it seemed [TS]

01:17:37   like a no-brainer in terms of [TS]

01:17:39   accessibility of my Twitter bio is is [TS]

01:17:43   actually from that transcript [TS]

01:17:44   oh really yeah because here i can't [TS]

01:17:47   remember what was said about me this [TS]

01:17:49   last time but there was a mention of me [TS]

01:17:52   and then they they typed in the serenity [TS]

01:17:55   typed in the crowd reaction which was [TS]

01:17:58   laughter and some cause that's my that's [TS]

01:18:03   my twitter bio I think that context was [TS]

01:18:05   losing my introduction I said last year [TS]

01:18:07   we had Phil Schiller and and though it [TS]

01:18:10   is there was the i think was less than [TS]

01:18:12   charitable environment this you know the [TS]

01:18:16   goal you know it would be nice to be [TS]

01:18:17   able to top it but one of these years it [TS]

01:18:20   we're going to run out of room to top it [TS]

01:18:21   and you know it's just going to open an [TS]

01:18:23   orange and it's going to be bolts this [TS]

01:18:28   year is not that dear i think that was [TS]

01:18:31   it i think that was pretty close to what [TS]

01:18:32   i said he's nice enough i mean i was [TS]

01:18:36   heartfelt [TS]

01:18:37   I mean I meant it that someday they're [TS]

01:18:41   gonna have to put up with me [TS]

01:18:43   yeah and we're gonna have a good show [TS]

01:18:45   yeah look forward to that i'm interested [TS]

01:18:48   to know what I'm assuming that this [TS]

01:18:51   magic what the hell is called matchstick [TS]

01:18:54   what do they call it our magic toolbar [TS]

01:18:57   to defaults to just function keys when [TS]

01:19:01   there's no other thing presented [TS]

01:19:04   anything else that's been deliberately [TS]

01:19:06   programmed yes yeah yes because o in [TS]

01:19:11   Williams a freaky where he works now [TS]

01:19:16   he's jumped around a lot was pointing [TS]

01:19:18   out there's no like if you look at this [TS]

01:19:20   like there's no escape key like that's [TS]

01:19:22   the one thing that you that's on the [TS]

01:19:25   toolbar that you would probably use in a [TS]

01:19:27   regular application and like I think [TS]

01:19:30   it's like Minecraft like there's no [TS]

01:19:32   escape key you can play the game but [TS]

01:19:34   there must be in much must just default [TS]

01:19:36   to what's normally there if it's not [TS]

01:19:39   specifically is defined I even in my [TS]

01:19:44   days it when I was tell me getting into [TS]

01:19:47   things to do my computer science [TS]

01:19:48   assignments in the nineties on unix [TS]

01:19:51   machines I've always been a BB edit user [TS]

01:19:54   but I had to know if you can't you can't [TS]

01:19:57   go through the old terminal and not [TS]

01:19:59   eventually learn either emacs for them [TS]

01:20:01   to some degree and at them is [TS]

01:20:05   effectively unused I mean I don't think [TS]

01:20:07   apple is all that concerned about people [TS]

01:20:08   using them in a terminal but it's it you [TS]

01:20:11   you hit the Escape key roughly 27 [TS]

01:20:13   hundred times admit it's like escape is [TS]

01:20:16   how you do anything [TS]

01:20:17   escape is like an orc amanda escapes [TS]

01:20:19   switch modes it's it you know i just [TS]

01:20:22   remember when somebody it pointed it out [TS]

01:20:24   with the smart keyboard cover for the [TS]

01:20:26   ipad that it doesn't have an escape key [TS]

01:20:28   and somebody was like well how would you [TS]

01:20:30   use them and it's like I got to do wish [TS]

01:20:33   that they had put this guy use the [TS]

01:20:34   escape key just did it get canceled [TS]

01:20:36   things you know that yeah so I do wish [TS]

01:20:40   they had an escape key but i don't know [TS]

01:20:42   that it's I don't know that them users [TS]

01:20:43   are on the front of apples on probably [TS]

01:20:47   not just seemed headed for the mac [TS]

01:20:48   though it seems it seems because at [TS]

01:20:49   least with the ipad you could argue that [TS]

01:20:51   there's no history of it because the [TS]

01:20:53   software keyboard for the ipad doesn't [TS]

01:20:55   have an escape either but it certainly [TS]

01:20:58   seems unusual our friend Darth is [TS]

01:21:02   already has an image up with the with [TS]

01:21:06   the am with the magic tool bar and it's [TS]

01:21:10   um it's like it's the time square you [TS]

01:21:13   know message thing and it's just rolling [TS]

01:21:15   rolling across courage [TS]

01:21:17   alright i'll put a link to it [TS]

01:21:22   they're OK is OK is quite funny i said [TS]

01:21:34   this before it to me he's like the [TS]

01:21:36   funniest like political cartoonist even [TS]

01:21:41   going today and he was like all such but [TS]

01:21:44   it's not they're not obviously not [TS]

01:21:46   traditional political cartoons but they [TS]

01:21:49   are political and they are funny and [TS]

01:21:51   then you express comments the modern [TS]

01:21:54   it's the modern equivalent right it's [TS]

01:21:56   it's updated for the modern age carts [TS]

01:22:00   tiny handed Trump photoshop like it when [TS]

01:22:06   he does one for Trump it doesn't matter [TS]

01:22:07   whether he mentions the hands or not he [TS]

01:22:09   just always shooting system [TS]

01:22:11   yeah and the funny part is is that Darth [TS]

01:22:16   is also I he's I think he's really good [TS]

01:22:20   at photoshop like you're at least he's [TS]

01:22:22   good at what he does in Photoshop which [TS]

01:22:24   isn't trying to fool you into thinking [TS]

01:22:25   this is real but it's like it [TS]

01:22:29   he- circle yeah yeah and I think he does [TS]

01:22:33   with these things out in a minute or two [TS]

01:22:35   I don't know he's crazy fast right he's [TS]

01:22:37   crazy fast but they don't look like they [TS]

01:22:40   would if i did it where you know clearly [TS]

01:22:41   see where the lasso is to run around the [TS]

01:22:44   hands like if I was doing it as quickly [TS]

01:22:47   as he did you still see the marching [TS]

01:22:49   ants around the selection i would just [TS]

01:22:51   draw that and I think it's great shot [TS]

01:22:54   what other stuff that Apple might [TS]

01:23:00   announce this week like they could do [TS]

01:23:03   like that something like their airport [TS]

01:23:07   stuff is out of date would they tie that [TS]

01:23:09   together with their you know home stereo [TS]

01:23:12   speaker amazon echo type thing that's a [TS]

01:23:19   good question i mean i've heard that [TS]

01:23:21   thing is it is out there and and being [TS]

01:23:24   field-tested I wasn't thinking that it [TS]

01:23:29   was ready to go yet [TS]

01:23:30   but I don't know but it seems like I [TS]

01:23:33   don't either [TS]

01:23:33   that would maybe help explain why [TS]

01:23:35   they're having an event if there is [TS]

01:23:37   something actually new to unveil right i [TS]

01:23:41   mean the timing you know the timing [TS]

01:23:42   right before the holidays would be good [TS]

01:23:43   right if they actually are able to make [TS]

01:23:45   it i mean how they kept it from leaking [TS]

01:23:47   who knows but you know [TS]

01:23:50   yeah that's a good question made in the [TS]

01:23:52   USA [TS]

01:23:53   I don't know probably got over that [TS]

01:23:56   guy's been doing more than we thought I [TS]

01:24:00   don't know but it's you know i would [TS]

01:24:01   like to see it I don't know what else to [TS]

01:24:03   say about it other than that it you know [TS]

01:24:06   seems like maybe my understand my [TS]

01:24:09   understanding was that it it was a not [TS]

01:24:13   that long ago that people were given [TS]

01:24:19   some units to try out so that doesn't [TS]

01:24:22   seem like quite enough time like if they [TS]

01:24:23   found like a real problem it doesn't [TS]

01:24:25   seem like enough time to turn it around [TS]

01:24:27   and do something I mean this seemed like [TS]

01:24:30   like real alpha sort of stuff but I [TS]

01:24:35   don't know but it sounds like you know [TS]

01:24:37   even if it's a short event it seems like [TS]

01:24:38   that might have room for something like [TS]

01:24:40   that yeah I link to a thing [TS]

01:24:46   have you seen this where there was like [TS]

01:24:47   at the widespread internet outage this [TS]

01:24:49   week you know I sort of slept right [TS]

01:24:52   through it but me no huge parts of the [TS]

01:24:55   internet are unavailable [TS]

01:24:56   it was during the morning in the east [TS]

01:24:58   and in some of the afternoon so yeah it [TS]

01:25:01   seems as though wherever you know [TS]

01:25:03   wherever during fireball is hosted seem [TS]

01:25:05   to avoid x I didn't seem to get any [TS]

01:25:07   complaints that people couldn't reach [TS]

01:25:09   daring fireball but a whole bunch of [TS]

01:25:11   whole bunch of big internet sites are [TS]

01:25:13   unavailable because there is an attack [TS]

01:25:16   on the DNS system and when dns goes down [TS]

01:25:19   pretty much everything goes down and the [TS]

01:25:22   gist of the attack which is interesting [TS]

01:25:24   is that it was a bunch of like Internet [TS]

01:25:27   of Things devices like like webcams and [TS]

01:25:30   just internet-connected cameras and [TS]

01:25:33   speakers and stuff like that made by [TS]

01:25:35   these chinese companies that have all [TS]

01:25:37   have like the same password the same [TS]

01:25:39   password like look what I got not make [TS]

01:25:42   making this attack up [TS]

01:25:44   and added there's like a botnet that [TS]

01:25:45   just just slowly but methodically search [TS]

01:25:48   the internet for like it [TS]

01:25:50   are you one of these cameras now are you [TS]

01:25:53   one of these cameras are thousands and [TS]

01:25:56   thousands and thousands of times but [TS]

01:25:57   then eventually found a yes right noted [TS]

01:26:01   the address and then kept going and then [TS]

01:26:03   when they wanted to turn on the attack [TS]

01:26:04   just told him all of these cameras to to [TS]

01:26:07   do it you know distributed [TS]

01:26:09   denial-of-service attack on dns servers [TS]

01:26:12   anyway seems to me like a lot of these [TS]

01:26:14   internet things of Things devices aren't [TS]

01:26:17   all that secure or not and that maybe [TS]

01:26:20   you know that I just link before the [TS]

01:26:22   show started to it a two year or a year [TS]

01:26:25   old story about the device makers [TS]

01:26:28   complaining that Apple's home kit you [TS]

01:26:30   know home kit was slow to make [TS]

01:26:32   peripherals for because Apple has [TS]

01:26:33   stringent security requirements [TS]

01:26:36   hmm maybe that makes a lot more sense [TS]

01:26:38   now don't all use the same password [TS]

01:26:44   basket that's our stringent security [TS]

01:26:47   requirement number one breaking and I [TS]

01:26:52   mean i have i've got i know the only [TS]

01:26:54   thing I've got is this one camera and I [TS]

01:26:56   don't think it's one of those but it you [TS]

01:26:59   know I don't even know how I would tell [TS]

01:27:01   you come in your office and attacks you [TS]

01:27:04   yes it was growling the other day but i [TS]

01:27:07   don't think i think that was unrelated i [TS]

01:27:10   don't know i don't have any other things [TS]

01:27:11   to expect on this event [TS]

01:27:13   ah yeah do you just not gonna be that [TS]

01:27:17   big you know I think you know what you [TS]

01:27:19   so yes so this is this is happening at [TS]

01:27:20   the campus at the smaller yes it is that [TS]

01:27:23   tell ya that will almost certainly be [TS]

01:27:27   the last town hall event everything [TS]

01:27:30   barring some kind of surprised emergency [TS]

01:27:33   event sort of like the antenna gate or [TS]

01:27:35   something like that i don't i don't see [TS]

01:27:36   you know I'd they even said at the last [TS]

01:27:38   one that this would probably that the [TS]

01:27:40   last one was probably going to be the [TS]

01:27:42   last town hall event so this one I think [TS]

01:27:45   is almost certainly maybe they'll do you [TS]

01:27:48   think that maybe they'll let us rip out [TS]

01:27:49   the chairs [TS]

01:27:51   they did that had no i think it was in [TS]

01:27:57   Philadelphia is Veterans Stadium which [TS]

01:27:59   is no longer there is a parking lot so [TS]

01:28:01   built-in mic 1971 the bat as we called [TS]

01:28:05   it lovingly was the home of the [TS]

01:28:07   philadelphia eagles and the philadelphia [TS]

01:28:08   phillies 4 I don't 20-some years you [TS]

01:28:11   know we're growing up we had I only [TS]

01:28:13   remember these came from but I now you [TS]

01:28:15   mention that we had a couple of bleacher [TS]

01:28:17   seats [TS]

01:28:18   I mean I don't not bench seats but like [TS]

01:28:20   wooden seats from something i'm thinking [TS]

01:28:24   maybe the Jets yeah that's possible [TS]

01:28:26   stadium [TS]

01:28:26   yeah I'll bet before they built the [TS]

01:28:28   meadowlands right right so they let i [TS]

01:28:31   forget what I think was a phillies game [TS]

01:28:33   was the last game in there is i forget [TS]

01:28:35   it i actually forget if they were [TS]

01:28:37   allowing fans to take the seats or if [TS]

01:28:40   fans just did did it on our own like [TS]

01:28:43   that but the guys working himself freely [TS]

01:28:46   gave me with a ratchet set and just [TS]

01:28:48   started taking the seat maybe they'll [TS]

01:28:50   let us do that at town hall and take [TS]

01:28:52   like a student here [TS]

01:28:53   yeah taken recently we we not only do we [TS]

01:28:55   use so we have those seats and then the [TS]

01:28:57   other thing that we had were when they [TS]

01:28:59   made the movie the natural [TS]

01:29:06   in order to make it look like the the [TS]

01:29:13   stands were fold they had these like [TS]

01:29:14   like cardboard people that they put in [TS]

01:29:17   and then they just like they'd [TS]

01:29:19   interspersed real people here and there [TS]

01:29:21   and make it look like a real crowd and [TS]

01:29:23   so somehow i don't know how we got these [TS]

01:29:25   but we had like cardboard people from [TS]

01:29:26   that movie and they said we put them we [TS]

01:29:28   put in those chairs for the meadowlands [TS]

01:29:30   or whether from you know whatever was [TS]

01:29:32   before the melons wouldn't because thats [TS]

01:29:35   quiet know they had cardboard people for [TS]

01:29:37   that i think is a common trick is it [TS]

01:29:39   wasn't it isn't the story that in the [TS]

01:29:41   medal ceremony in star wars that most of [TS]

01:29:43   the people most of the rebels world [TS]

01:29:45   where cardboard cutouts where they call [TS]

01:29:48   it was a carburetor was it was at a [TS]

01:29:50   mapping I don't know I don't know one or [TS]

01:29:52   the other because that would have been a [TS]

01:29:53   mapping but I couldn't tell you [TS]

01:29:56   yeah that's pretty cool so I'm I'm maybe [TS]

01:30:02   I should take a big suitcase with me [TS]

01:30:04   yeah I should then it would W heart are [TS]

01:30:08   carrying whenever funny trying to put a [TS]

01:30:10   chair from down all into the x-ray [TS]

01:30:12   machine and tried to convince they're [TS]

01:30:15   trying to convince the flavors that you [TS]

01:30:16   just just get the you know get the [TS]

01:30:19   concierge people hella flores this will [TS]

01:30:21   fit the overhead no problem they are [TS]

01:30:22   they are small seats they might fit in [TS]

01:30:25   the overhead [TS]

01:30:27   well again I don't know how are they [TS]

01:30:31   keeping them in there i assume they're [TS]

01:30:33   keeping infinite loop and yes they are [TS]

01:30:36   absolutely the internet loop camp there [TS]

01:30:38   so they're so overflowing with employees [TS]

01:30:42   and so need office space that i don't i [TS]

01:30:45   don't even know how their eye they have [TS]

01:30:47   a bunch of interim buildings in [TS]

01:30:51   cupertino I mean I don't know how [TS]

01:30:52   interment aaron is but i forget what the [TS]

01:30:58   reason was i but i know i just know that [TS]

01:31:03   there are Apple buildings in cupertino [TS]

01:31:06   that all you would never even guess [TS]

01:31:08   where Apple buildings it's not even [TS]

01:31:09   because necessarily they're like secret [TS]

01:31:11   like it's you know it's not like the [TS]

01:31:12   project titan team or something like [TS]

01:31:14   that just people working on stuff with [TS]

01:31:16   that that there's no more room [TS]

01:31:18   in infinite loop and the new campuses [TS]

01:31:20   and open and so they're just you know [TS]

01:31:22   anything [TS]

01:31:23   you know I think if you own an office [TS]

01:31:24   building in cupertino it's like salad [TS]

01:31:27   days [TS]

01:31:29   no I so I think my understanding is that [TS]

01:31:31   infinite loop will remain fully occupied [TS]

01:31:33   that something there are certainly some [TS]

01:31:34   people they're moving to the new office [TS]

01:31:36   or the new building but yeah they're [TS]

01:31:38   gonna take up all the space [TS]

01:31:40   well it seems like they might have used [TS]

01:31:41   for Town Hall them yeah because I'm sure [TS]

01:31:43   that you still have team meetings in [TS]

01:31:45   there and stop fucking up so they might [TS]

01:31:47   need the seeds i think they could have [TS]

01:31:50   standing me try it just see what happens [TS]

01:31:55   i don't even know why I want the seats [TS]

01:31:57   there so they're very small and [TS]

01:31:58   uncomfortable so I don't even know why I [TS]

01:32:00   want 1i just like the idea of like me [TS]

01:32:03   Jason snap i'll take them all right move [TS]

01:32:06   sure that our report could probably get [TS]

01:32:08   easily [TS]

01:32:08   oh yeah Dalrymple yeah he probably got [TS]

01:32:10   three already [TS]

01:32:12   it's that's almost certainly broken that [TS]

01:32:15   feel already breaking news we've got [TS]

01:32:20   apples as we're recording the apples [TS]

01:32:22   quarterly finally yeah that's right yeah [TS]

01:32:25   forgot about that coming up [TS]

01:32:27   I don't know that they had a business in [TS]

01:32:29   I think they're doomed [TS]

01:32:34   this just says doomed well that's it i'm [TS]

01:32:37   just reading too many cooks remarks [TS]

01:32:39   timko tantric Tim could not be more [TS]

01:32:42   excited quote quote about iphone 7 7 [TS]

01:32:46   plus demand which outstrip supply that's [TS]

01:32:49   you know no numbers applied to that [TS]

01:32:51   yeah yeah it's your iPhone's above [TS]

01:32:56   estimates yeah looks like they're a [TS]

01:32:58   little bit above but they're still down [TS]

01:33:00   year-over-year 45 million but he added a [TS]

01:33:03   a consensus was 43 million so they sold [TS]

01:33:05   next r2 million mac sales for 4.9 [TS]

01:33:10   million down from 5.7 but it's just like [TS]

01:33:13   the whole reason that part of the reason [TS]

01:33:15   that I'd was willing to record the show [TS]

01:33:18   before this result says I didn't expect [TS]

01:33:20   these results to be that exciting and [TS]

01:33:22   part of it is just like we've just spent [TS]

01:33:24   at 90 minutes talking about how every [TS]

01:33:26   single mackinaw lineup is outdated any [TS]

01:33:29   alright everybody you know so that [TS]

01:33:31   they get shocked i don't think it's a [TS]

01:33:32   sign of problems with the mac that sales [TS]

01:33:35   are slightly down and it's almost [TS]

01:33:36   shocking that they were they weren't [TS]

01:33:38   down more [TS]

01:33:39   yeah definitely he says that the Tim [TS]

01:33:44   Cook says they're thrilled with the camp [TS]

01:33:45   customer response to Apple watch series [TS]

01:33:47   2 and iPhone 7 and 7 plus but why the [TS]

01:33:50   other reason that this quarter is not [TS]

01:33:52   that interesting is this quarter ended [TS]

01:33:53   at the end of september's so the only [TS]

01:33:55   iphone 7 sales that are even comp you [TS]

01:33:58   know it counted are the like initial [TS]

01:34:00   opening weekend sales [TS]

01:34:02   yes so I don't think there's anything [TS]

01:34:05   all that interesting here every selling [TS]

01:34:08   price for the iphone is up but down for [TS]

01:34:11   both the ipad on the mac he know I think [TS]

01:34:13   that makes sense because it is that's [TS]

01:34:15   what I think it makes sense because i [TS]

01:34:16   think most of the people who are buying [TS]

01:34:17   a mac or the people who are not gonna [TS]

01:34:20   say uninformed but they don't even care [TS]

01:34:22   you know about whether it's a year old [TS]

01:34:24   chipset or something like that [TS]

01:34:26   mhm I wouldn't be surprised I would [TS]

01:34:27   expect that the average selling price of [TS]

01:34:30   the mac is going to go up next time we [TS]

01:34:31   hear from the man that there's a lot of [TS]

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01:37:49   what else we got I got a google pixel oh [TS]

01:37:54   yeah what about that a little bit have [TS]

01:37:57   any questions what questions you have [TS]

01:37:58   for me i've been using it for about well [TS]

01:38:00   you were doing a little own Syrian [TS]

01:38:04   assistant comparison for you I have been [TS]

01:38:07   yes you wanna talk about that are you [TS]

01:38:09   saving that for right now I slow out I [TS]

01:38:13   no idea it's hard to do I don't know if [TS]

01:38:15   I'm gonna do like a big massive [TS]

01:38:17   comparison but i have to say like just [TS]

01:38:19   keeping both devices with me and doing [TS]

01:38:21   the same things on both devices [TS]

01:38:23   I I I do admit i think that overall i [TS]

01:38:27   think google assistant is a little bit [TS]

01:38:30   ahead of Siri in some ways and and the [TS]

01:38:33   main way that I think it's a head is [TS]

01:38:36   just in the way that Google web search [TS]

01:38:38   is the best web search that there's [TS]

01:38:40   still ahead of being and you know [TS]

01:38:43   DuckDuckGo and other search engines but [TS]

01:38:45   just things that you expect to find [TS]

01:38:47   through traditional google where you [TS]

01:38:48   just type google.com in a browser and [TS]

01:38:50   type of thing in a box and you expect to [TS]

01:38:53   get the right answer from google google [TS]

01:38:55   assistant can answer those type of [TS]

01:38:57   things in general better than Cirie but [TS]

01:39:02   for the things i actually asked from [TS]

01:39:04   Siri and Google assistant I they're a [TS]

01:39:07   lot closer than to me that the [TS]

01:39:08   conventional wisdom would have you think [TS]

01:39:11   that the conventional wisdom to me is [TS]

01:39:13   that google is kicking ass in this area [TS]

01:39:16   and that Apple is serious a piece of [TS]

01:39:19   useless garbage right i'm not i'm not [TS]

01:39:22   saying it sounds like hyperbole but I [TS]

01:39:24   mean I see this all the time i see [TS]

01:39:26   people writing this this just seems to [TS]

01:39:28   be the assumption that a lot of people [TS]

01:39:29   have and it just isn't backed up in real [TS]

01:39:32   life i did an example on saturday i know [TS]

01:39:37   that it was saturday and i was I [TS]

01:39:38   couldn't remember i don't know if you [TS]

01:39:40   noticed I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan and I [TS]

01:39:43   hadn't made in I had heard that I could [TS]

01:39:45   remember when Dallas played again I was [TS]

01:39:47   an honest question I was pretty sure and [TS]

01:39:49   add but I asked both devices when does [TS]

01:39:53   dallas play and I didn't say the Dallas [TS]

01:39:56   Cowboys I just said Wednesday Alice play [TS]

01:39:58   and I'm recalling correctly I google [TS]

01:40:05   assistant gave me a like a a Dallas [TS]

01:40:10   Cowboy score from two weeks ago which is [TS]

01:40:13   not does it was not the answer to the [TS]

01:40:14   question even though it and it shows you [TS]

01:40:17   what it thinks that her dad heard me say [TS]

01:40:18   when does dallas but Syria on the other [TS]

01:40:21   hand I said Wednesday display said which [TS]

01:40:23   team and offered me the the dallas [TS]

01:40:26   mavericks dallas cowboys and whatever [TS]

01:40:29   their ice hockey team is and I tapped [TS]

01:40:31   dallas cowboys and then serie correctly [TS]

01:40:34   told me the Dallas plays the [TS]

01:40:35   Philadelphia Eagles next sunday at [TS]

01:40:37   eight-thirty on sunday night football [TS]

01:40:39   correct answer [TS]

01:40:42   I mean and a lot of my examples that I [TS]

01:40:44   find where serie works better than both [TS]

01:40:47   Alexa and google now seem to be [TS]

01:40:50   sports-based it seems like yeah I was [TS]

01:40:52   gonna say it does seem like they they [TS]

01:40:54   have to spend a bunch of time making [TS]

01:40:56   sure that sports stuff works well yeah [TS]

01:40:58   and part of it is that the I don't know [TS]

01:41:00   part of it is Syrian what series says [TS]

01:41:02   you and part of it is that they've apple [TS]

01:41:04   has partnered with yahoo sports and [TS]

01:41:05   yahoo sports seems to have not just good [TS]

01:41:08   information but it seems to have it a [TS]

01:41:10   structured in a way that Siri can really [TS]

01:41:13   take advantage of it and you know so [TS]

01:41:17   maybe I know my perspective as somebody [TS]

01:41:19   who's relatively big sports fan is you [TS]

01:41:22   know maybe better suited to series [TS]

01:41:24   sports focus than people who aren't but [TS]

01:41:26   i just think that the general idea that [TS]

01:41:28   the google assistant is way way way [TS]

01:41:30   ahead of Syria is just not true and any [TS]

01:41:33   other thing that i just linked to the [TS]

01:41:34   other day was a MK BHD marques Brownlee [TS]

01:41:39   who does these amazing ya mutha ya know [TS]

01:41:42   that he's like you know when i hear [TS]

01:41:43   about people who are like professional [TS]

01:41:45   youtubers and I see some of the videos [TS]

01:41:46   and I cannot believe that this is a [TS]

01:41:48   professional and then I see his and I'm [TS]

01:41:50   like well he's like he was like born to [TS]

01:41:53   be on TV [TS]

01:41:54   yeah yeah and he does al the video work [TS]

01:41:57   himself I've seen them doing it in the [TS]

01:41:59   hands on areas at the apple event and [TS]

01:42:01   it's amazing it's like he's a one-man [TS]

01:42:03   studio it is absolutely amazing watching [TS]

01:42:05   at work but anyway he had a comparison [TS]

01:42:09   serie versus a google assistant and it [TS]

01:42:13   was remarkable to me how many of them [TS]

01:42:14   were exactly the same on both in [TS]

01:42:16   response time and accuracy [TS]

01:42:19   yeah and I thought you know and i think [TS]

01:42:22   overall you surprised [TS]

01:42:24   and you know what i found very [TS]

01:42:25   interesting was i assumed that assistant [TS]

01:42:27   was much better at the contextual [TS]

01:42:30   questions where you asked one question [TS]

01:42:31   you ask the following question that [TS]

01:42:33   plays off that previous question I [TS]

01:42:36   always ask i just assumed that the [TS]

01:42:38   system would be much better and it [TS]

01:42:40   actually i think it is better but um I [TS]

01:42:43   was what i was really surprised that [TS]

01:42:44   Siri on any of them at all right i just [TS]

01:42:47   assumed that wouldn't that from question [TS]

01:42:49   because I've never actually experienced [TS]

01:42:51   about personally but I haven't tried it [TS]

01:42:54   recently and everything it seemed like [TS]

01:42:56   every time I tried it before it looks [TS]

01:42:58   like it doesn't just like it's being hit [TS]

01:43:00   on the head each time it doesn't [TS]

01:43:00   remember what the previous question was [TS]

01:43:02   right and what we're talking about would [TS]

01:43:04   be sequences of queries like if you said [TS]

01:43:07   hey what what is that [TS]

01:43:09   hey dingus what's the Dallas Cowboys [TS]

01:43:11   record and then after you get the answer [TS]

01:43:13   then if you said when do they play next [TS]

01:43:15   regular your query is when do they play [TS]

01:43:18   next [TS]

01:43:18   and you're assuming that the assistant [TS]

01:43:20   can pick up that they means the team you [TS]

01:43:22   just asked about 10 seconds ago [TS]

01:43:24   mhm yeah i think it was he was talking [TS]

01:43:26   about presidents or something like that [TS]

01:43:28   and you know like how everybody was when [TS]

01:43:30   was so-and-so born and how tall and then [TS]

01:43:33   and then how tall is he [TS]

01:43:34   who's the president united states oh [TS]

01:43:36   yeah yeah alright you know and i think [TS]

01:43:39   google assistant got that one right and [TS]

01:43:41   Cirie did not likes it i think Cirie [TS]

01:43:44   humorously I the google assistant said [TS]

01:43:46   you know Barack Obama's six-foot-one [TS]

01:43:47   inches tall and and serious gave him the [TS]

01:43:50   height of the United States of America [TS]

01:43:52   not perfect but there were some basic [TS]

01:43:59   ones they like you know what's the [TS]

01:44:01   weather where they that the exact same [TS]

01:44:05   speed was always almost striking you'd [TS]

01:44:08   almost think that they were hooked up to [TS]

01:44:10   the same back-end given how how similar [TS]

01:44:12   the response times where mhm an apple [TS]

01:44:15   provided serie provided a little bit [TS]

01:44:17   more [TS]

01:44:18   like charts and graphs kind of stuff [TS]

01:44:22   yeah and maybe that stuff comes from [TS]

01:44:23   wolfram alpha I'm not sure [TS]

01:44:28   yeah well there's one thing that mkbhd [TS]

01:44:31   missed in his comparison and I wasn't [TS]

01:44:35   fully aware of it either I kind of I I [TS]

01:44:37   kind of knew this vaguely especially [TS]

01:44:41   because i've been using their pods for [TS]

01:44:42   the last month but then somebody on [TS]

01:44:44   Twitter called it out i don't know who [TS]

01:44:46   I'm sorry for not giving you credit but [TS]

01:44:47   which is that Siri responds differently [TS]

01:44:51   based on how you invoke it and so if you [TS]

01:44:55   doing here Lee by voice with a hey [TS]

01:44:57   dingus you get more back [TS]

01:45:01   auto audio through audio then you do if [TS]

01:45:05   you use the home button if you use the [TS]

01:45:06   home button [TS]

01:45:07   serie makes the assumption that you're [TS]

01:45:09   ready to touch things so just for [TS]

01:45:12   example my example for the other name i [TS]

01:45:14   asked about when quote when does dallas [TS]

01:45:17   play unquote it gave me a on-screen [TS]

01:45:20   listing of which wich dallas and the [TS]

01:45:23   three teams and I could tap it but if I [TS]

01:45:25   was doing it through air pods it would [TS]

01:45:26   be an audio prompt ok I wanted [TS]

01:45:31   well we would just ask you like [TS]

01:45:33   goodnight would name that I think so i [TS]

01:45:34   could try it and get back get pregnant [TS]

01:45:37   but you don't do it right now but i [TS]

01:45:42   think i've seen that to where I have [TS]

01:45:44   another at least one other Amy in my [TS]

01:45:48   context and so it's like if i say text [TS]

01:45:51   amy blah blah blah [TS]

01:45:53   if I'm doing it through the air pods i [TS]

01:45:55   can i can answer just audio audio only [TS]

01:45:58   that I want to you know bring my wife [TS]

01:46:00   not the other one [TS]

01:46:01   yeah so that's an interesting difference [TS]

01:46:04   but it's just i i really do think that [TS]

01:46:06   the conventional wisdom on that we're [TS]

01:46:09   serious stands compared to the [TS]

01:46:11   state-of-the-art is way off [TS]

01:46:12   it may be behind I wouldn't i probably [TS]

01:46:15   wouldn't dispute that overall but it's [TS]

01:46:18   so multivariate in so many different [TS]

01:46:20   areas and they're clearly some areas [TS]

01:46:22   where Syria is actually a head that I'd [TS]

01:46:24   i do think that they're all in the same [TS]

01:46:25   ballpark at this point yeah yeah i think [TS]

01:46:29   i mean i know and i don't have a device [TS]

01:46:32   currently that what we'll do that [TS]

01:46:35   assistant so I haven't played around [TS]

01:46:37   with it in a long time and you know I'm [TS]

01:46:40   just relying out what everybody says it [TS]

01:46:42   but it sure really is like conventional [TS]

01:46:44   wisdom that it google is so much far [TS]

01:46:47   ahead and it does not seem to be really [TS]

01:46:50   that far ahead [TS]

01:46:51   yeah I would almost say that if anything [TS]

01:46:54   the conventional wisdom isn't so much [TS]

01:46:56   under estimating serious overestimating [TS]

01:46:58   google assistant em and again for like [TS]

01:47:02   trivia questions it is a little better [TS]

01:47:04   because it's just you know like it if [TS]

01:47:07   you just treat it as a vocal input for [TS]

01:47:08   the google search box but for a lot of [TS]

01:47:10   contextual stuff it's not [TS]

01:47:12   yeah and it doesn't know things like a I [TS]

01:47:16   could never a current route couldn't [TS]

01:47:18   figure how to take a screenshot on my [TS]

01:47:19   pixel and asking Google assistant was [TS]

01:47:22   absolutely no help [TS]

01:47:24   yeah I really you know I'm not shocked [TS]

01:47:27   that it wasn't to help but it does seem [TS]

01:47:29   like if you're supposed to be able to [TS]

01:47:31   talk to your device [TS]

01:47:32   it seems like the device you know and [TS]

01:47:34   eventually the it should be the case [TS]

01:47:36   that you can if you're if you have a [TS]

01:47:37   phone that has a bouquet assistant you [TS]

01:47:39   should be able to say how do i take a [TS]

01:47:41   screenshot and it should be able to tell [TS]

01:47:42   you thinking yeah yeah yeah definitely [TS]

01:47:45   that's it seems like thats that's [TS]

01:47:48   exactly what it should get right because [TS]

01:47:52   that's what they have complete control [TS]

01:47:53   over all right i mean that kind of you [TS]

01:47:56   know it's like you know spotlight for [TS]

01:47:57   but by voice yeah the trick with taking [TS]

01:48:01   a screenshot on the the android devices [TS]

01:48:04   is that you press the power button and [TS]

01:48:06   volume down but you have to press them [TS]

01:48:10   at the same time maybe not quite it you [TS]

01:48:12   know like the hundredth of a second same [TS]

01:48:14   time but if you press one before the [TS]

01:48:15   other it doesn't work like you press [TS]

01:48:18   volume down even slightly before the [TS]

01:48:19   power you immediately start changing the [TS]

01:48:22   the volume and if you turn power and [TS]

01:48:25   don't quite hit volume down within the [TS]

01:48:27   very slips small fraction of a second it [TS]

01:48:30   empowers you know brings up the you want [TS]

01:48:32   to turn your phone off thing [TS]

01:48:33   yeah i had i wasn't sure how to reboot [TS]

01:48:37   the iphone 7 because it went Carandang [TS]

01:48:42   both got theirs I hit that was setting [TS]

01:48:43   this up restoring their their backups to [TS]

01:48:45   their phones and at one point one of [TS]

01:48:48   them froze and i had a foursome restart [TS]

01:48:52   it and yeah it's now it's now it's the [TS]

01:48:55   power doesn't know it's the now its [TS]

01:48:57   volume button [TS]

01:48:58   yeah in the power button yeah I think [TS]

01:49:01   you hold down both human and power or [TS]

01:49:04   something yeah and i think i ended up [TS]

01:49:05   just doing it by accident because I was [TS]

01:49:06   just trying everything is this i [TS]

01:49:08   couldn't understand why it wasn't [TS]

01:49:09   working when I was doing the home button [TS]

01:49:12   in the and the power button [TS]

01:49:16   what other you have any other pixel [TS]

01:49:18   questions um I will say well yeah you [TS]

01:49:22   know everybody seems to think that it [TS]

01:49:23   looks I don't think it looks that great [TS]

01:49:24   but how does it feel and real life it's [TS]

01:49:29   I got the smaller 1i got the 5-inch one [TS]

01:49:31   and I realized that FDI forget how many [TS]

01:49:33   android phones i've had over the last [TS]

01:49:35   few years but they've all been way too [TS]

01:49:37   big for my taste and this is the nurse [TS]

01:49:39   this is the first android phone i've [TS]

01:49:40   ever purchased that is either not a [TS]

01:49:44   piece of junk and not too big it's ok it [TS]

01:49:47   is clearly a little bigger than the [TS]

01:49:49   iphone 4.7 inch iphones I mean not just [TS]

01:49:53   you know looking at it but it feels a [TS]

01:49:55   little bigger it is a little wider which [TS]

01:49:57   is the biggest difference but it's [TS]

01:49:58   nowhere near as wide as an iphone 7 plus [TS]

01:50:01   and so it's you know I could live with [TS]

01:50:03   this is the size of my phone so I I [TS]

01:50:05   appreciate that this that's the small [TS]

01:50:07   one and it's bigger than the iphone 7 [TS]

01:50:09   yeah it's exactly as much bigger as you [TS]

01:50:11   would think given that this debt that [TS]

01:50:13   display is five inches instead of 4.7 [TS]

01:50:17   inches yeah and when you just look at it [TS]

01:50:19   and you can kind of see that it has a [TS]

01:50:21   chin and forehead of roughly the same [TS]

01:50:23   proportions as an iphone you know just [TS]

01:50:25   that basic you know the fact that [TS]

01:50:27   looking at front on it clearly i don't [TS]

01:50:31   even III could I think it's almost [TS]

01:50:32   admirable that they're not denying it [TS]

01:50:34   that it looks like an iphone it feels [TS]

01:50:36   exactly as much bigger as you would [TS]

01:50:37   think given that the displays a little [TS]

01:50:39   bit yeah it is interesting that it that [TS]

01:50:43   that's the stage [TS]

01:50:45   that's what's going on in that market [TS]

01:50:47   because we have some friends and [TS]

01:50:49   in the her father recently bought his [TS]

01:50:54   first iphone I'm after having android [TS]

01:50:57   for years because he wanted you got the [TS]

01:50:59   SEC because he wanted to smartphone and [TS]

01:51:00   he could simply could not get one in the [TS]

01:51:02   android market right now it's nowhere [TS]

01:51:04   near sec sighs so there's yeah no yeah [TS]

01:51:06   no clearly not a gaping hole in the [TS]

01:51:08   android market at that size but yeah you [TS]

01:51:11   know this is the tomb III think sony has [TS]

01:51:13   had some phones roughly the size that [TS]

01:51:16   are considered high end android phones [TS]

01:51:18   but I've never used one [TS]

01:51:19   so you know but what I find that really [TS]

01:51:21   funny because that's always one of the [TS]

01:51:22   things that people say the the advantage [TS]

01:51:24   of the Android ecosystem is that you [TS]

01:51:27   have so many different manufacturers [TS]

01:51:30   that you're going to get a phone any [TS]

01:51:31   kind of phone that you want and any kind [TS]

01:51:34   of phone that you want as long as it's [TS]

01:51:35   not a 4-inch screen right as long as its [TS]

01:51:39   giant yeah right [TS]

01:51:41   this thing's huge I don't know quite [TS]

01:51:45   what that I you know I don't know I've [TS]

01:51:47   always i think part of that is too is [TS]

01:51:49   that they needed for battery life of the [TS]

01:51:50   battery life is in general works on [TS]

01:51:52   android then unless and ok i'm not quite [TS]

01:51:56   sure though I will say battery life on [TS]

01:51:59   this device is fine [TS]

01:52:00   it seems exactly equivalent to the [TS]

01:52:02   iphone 7 it with extended use well it's [TS]

01:52:06   a little bit thicker one end right [TS]

01:52:08   because it doesn't have a camera doesn't [TS]

01:52:09   have a camera but it ended its like [TS]

01:52:11   which shaped right I can't believe that [TS]

01:52:13   nobody commented on this at the resort [TS]

01:52:15   debate but where r activate the [TS]

01:52:16   automatic product introduction where I [TS]

01:52:19   was like if it doesn't have a camera [TS]

01:52:20   bump but the it's thicker on one end and [TS]

01:52:23   the other is it a web shape or is it [TS]

01:52:25   like a step design where the glass part [TS]

01:52:28   is thicker and the other part is thinner [TS]

01:52:30   and there's a step in between any answer [TS]

01:52:32   is it's a wedge shape a gent you know [TS]

01:52:34   it's obviously not quite as wedge-shaped [TS]

01:52:36   is like a macbook air right there is a [TS]

01:52:39   wedge shape to it [TS]

01:52:40   mhm I don't love that I mean people yeah [TS]

01:52:42   well people were saying oh look there's [TS]

01:52:44   no excuse nor camera bahaha and I [TS]

01:52:46   thought well wait a minute there has to [TS]

01:52:47   be you know you know I either people [TS]

01:52:49   were wrong about the fact that there had [TS]

01:52:51   to be a camera bump because of physics [TS]

01:52:53   this or right or it has to be thicker [TS]

01:52:56   one of the other it's up to you know I [TS]

01:52:59   it's sort of an apple-like but I think [TS]

01:53:01   camera bumps are on [TS]

01:53:02   like I can't decide what would be more [TS]

01:53:04   on Ethel I'm right right [TS]

01:53:06   the camera bump or a wedge shape it does [TS]

01:53:09   feel a little little on top heavy in my [TS]

01:53:12   hand because it's thicker at the top [TS]

01:53:14   than bottom but not yet much and even [TS]

01:53:16   when I and maybe it's my imagination [TS]

01:53:17   almost because when i balance it on my [TS]

01:53:19   finger the balance point is only [TS]

01:53:21   slightly towards the top instead of the [TS]

01:53:23   Centrepointe yeah and the fact that it [TS]

01:53:26   doesn't have a camera bump is nice i [TS]

01:53:29   will say i mean i don't have a camera [TS]

01:53:31   bumpy there but the touch ID sensor is [TS]

01:53:34   extremely fast is it look good if it's [TS]

01:53:37   not as fast as Apple's it's close to his [TS]

01:53:39   fast it takes suspiciously shorter time [TS]

01:53:43   to train an apple and i just reset and I [TS]

01:53:48   find another iphone the other day and [TS]

01:53:50   went through it again so the memory it's [TS]

01:53:52   not it is fresh it definitely takes [TS]

01:53:54   fewer lift lift and put it back down to [TS]

01:53:57   get your finger registered with the [TS]

01:53:58   pixel fingerprint sensor so either [TS]

01:54:01   either they're actually training it a [TS]

01:54:03   lot faster than apple or their their [TS]

01:54:06   loser about right but I don't know I you [TS]

01:54:10   know but I can certainly haven't had you [TS]

01:54:11   know I've tried using other fingers and [TS]

01:54:13   it never falsely unlocks the phone so it [TS]

01:54:16   seems alright cameras good they have [TS]

01:54:20   yeah so it seems like it seems like I [TS]

01:54:22   mean some people were questioning I mean [TS]

01:54:25   everybody seemed to think that it was [TS]

01:54:26   you know at least as good as the iphone [TS]

01:54:27   want it in some people maybe thought it [TS]

01:54:30   was even better and then the other [TS]

01:54:31   people were saying how can you say that [TS]

01:54:32   look at this look at yellow this picture [TS]

01:54:34   is and I was quick and see won't see any [TS]

01:54:36   yellow with that picture of an order [TS]

01:54:38   talking about you know I've taken some [TS]

01:54:40   side-by-side I've gone out and sometimes [TS]

01:54:41   in the daytime and and I had both phones [TS]

01:54:43   with me and there was a theater around [TS]

01:54:45   the corner from our house that that just [TS]

01:54:48   got just blown up [TS]

01:54:50   I guess didn't blow it up but they [TS]

01:54:51   ripped it apart now it's a big hole in [TS]

01:54:53   the ground which I for some reason find [TS]

01:54:55   an interesting thing to take pictures of [TS]

01:54:57   and they you know they both look very [TS]

01:55:02   good to me I it is you know it sad you [TS]

01:55:04   know I can't say that one is better than [TS]

01:55:06   the other but they both look good every [TS]

01:55:08   once in a while one will look a little [TS]

01:55:09   better than the other i find that the [TS]

01:55:11   pictures are way closer between the two [TS]

01:55:13   than a lot of the examples I link to [TS]

01:55:15   last week i linked [TS]

01:55:17   a whole bunch of google pixel reviews [TS]

01:55:18   and most of them had like side-by-side [TS]

01:55:20   comparisons with the iphone 7 camera and [TS]

01:55:22   some of them made the iphone 7 pictures [TS]

01:55:25   look very washed out to me when I would [TS]

01:55:27   just say the color it just seemed like [TS]

01:55:29   they were much brighter like if somebody [TS]

01:55:30   took a picture of a field of grass [TS]

01:55:31   side-by-side that the pixel one look [TS]

01:55:34   bright green and very nice and that the [TS]

01:55:36   iphone one looked a little drab which [TS]

01:55:38   doesn't match my experience with the [TS]

01:55:41   iphone camera at all and I really makes [TS]

01:55:43   me wonder whether what processing they [TS]

01:55:47   were doing with the images to get them [TS]

01:55:48   from here to there in my use [TS]

01:55:51   side-by-side that the colors are very [TS]

01:55:53   very similar between the two cameras [TS]

01:55:55   I mean have a nice and I know what I'm [TS]

01:55:59   not good i'm also definitely not am [TS]

01:56:02   enough of a camera person to I mean like [TS]

01:56:05   i've said this before but I feel like [TS]

01:56:07   the camera topped out for me it at the [TS]

01:56:09   the iphone for my favorite feature of [TS]

01:56:13   the whole phone i think is that there's [TS]

01:56:15   a system-wide shortcut where if you [TS]

01:56:18   double tap the power button it puts you [TS]

01:56:20   in camera mode [TS]

01:56:21   no matter what you're doing so if the [TS]

01:56:23   phone is often locked double tap it and [TS]

01:56:25   you're in that quickly i just did it in [TS]

01:56:27   you're in [TS]

01:56:27   let's grab if you're using the phone [TS]

01:56:30   like you're just reading your email and [TS]

01:56:32   you want to take a picture of something [TS]

01:56:33   quick double tap that button and you [TS]

01:56:36   jump the camera mode and the camera mode [TS]

01:56:37   does startup about as fast as you could [TS]

01:56:40   reasonably expect ready to take a [TS]

01:56:41   picture that's a really cool feature and [TS]

01:56:45   I think on the iphone it's i I've just [TS]

01:56:49   started getting used to the lift to [TS]

01:56:51   whatever they call it anything raised to [TS]

01:56:55   raise the way the front way [TS]

01:56:57   yes and of my favorite aspect of raised [TS]

01:56:59   to wake with the iphone 7 is you raised [TS]

01:57:01   to wake and if you want to take a [TS]

01:57:02   picture you just slide the the lock [TS]

01:57:04   screen to the left and you're in the [TS]

01:57:06   camera [TS]

01:57:07   yeah and so I've really gotten used to [TS]

01:57:09   that so when my phone right if I see [TS]

01:57:11   something I want to take a picture of [TS]

01:57:12   quickly i can take it out of my pocket [TS]

01:57:14   raised awake almost always turns on when [TS]

01:57:16   I take out my pocket and just start [TS]

01:57:18   sliding to the left anywhere i don't [TS]

01:57:21   have to aim for like a little camera [TS]

01:57:22   icon in the corner anything anymore love [TS]

01:57:25   that feature i actually think that [TS]

01:57:28   that's probably a little better than the [TS]

01:57:30   double tap the button that this pixel [TS]

01:57:32   has but when you're actually already in [TS]

01:57:34   the phone and unlocked i think that the [TS]

01:57:36   pixel she has actually quicker [TS]

01:57:39   yeah having something Universal niggas [TS]

01:57:40   you get you can swipe up and then but [TS]

01:57:43   that's not as quick as double-tapping no [TS]

01:57:45   no and it's also fraud [TS]

01:57:47   you know sometimes doesn't work right [TS]

01:57:49   right double-tapping and I was always [TS]

01:57:51   working remember which app it is but [TS]

01:57:53   there's an app that I use [TS]

01:57:55   oh it's actually notes i have a like if [TS]

01:57:59   I'm in a note and now it seems to be [TS]

01:58:02   working maybe and maybe because maybe i [TS]

01:58:04   am maybe that got fixed in the most [TS]

01:58:07   recent update but I was having a hell of [TS]

01:58:08   a time [TS]

01:58:09   invoking the control center thing [TS]

01:58:11   whatever that thing is called the bomb [TS]

01:58:12   and notes i did the thing where you can [TS]

01:58:18   connect the pixel to your iphone through [TS]

01:58:21   a cable and the initial setup and it'll [TS]

01:58:23   slip over what it can and you know this [TS]

01:58:26   I i put a slack that we're both members [TS]

01:58:28   of but write it [TS]

01:58:30   it's it makes the pixel look like a pc [TS]

01:58:34   to know the iphone and you [TS]

01:58:37   that's what the adapters the adapters [TS]

01:58:38   like a USB a theme so the iphone will [TS]

01:58:41   give you the do you trust this computer [TS]

01:58:43   prompt that it's supposed to make sure [TS]

01:58:44   you're not getting hacked you know so so [TS]

01:58:47   is this just for pictures know it it [TS]

01:58:51   will do all sorts of things including [TS]

01:58:52   your SMS messages and my messages [TS]

01:58:55   wow if well here's the there is a catch [TS]

01:58:58   the catch is why you're going through [TS]

01:59:00   the setup i have my my iphone backups [TS]

01:59:04   encrypted I think they tell you that if [TS]

01:59:08   you'd like to sleep over all that stuff [TS]

01:59:09   you have to you have to connect your [TS]

01:59:11   connect your iphone to itunes and turn [TS]

01:59:14   off backup encryptions or encrypt your [TS]

01:59:17   backups and then it will be able to do [TS]

01:59:20   it otherwise it will only be able to get [TS]

01:59:21   your pictures and maybe something at one [TS]

01:59:25   or two other things I was like thanks [TS]

01:59:27   but no no thanks i'm not going to I'm [TS]

01:59:31   not that interested in it so i did to [TS]

01:59:32   have it slip over all my pictures and it [TS]

01:59:36   it didn't get them all [TS]

01:59:37   I don't really know what the hell [TS]

01:59:39   happened but part of it i think is the [TS]

01:59:41   fact that [TS]

01:59:41   got that obvious that is why i think [TS]

01:59:44   what is the problem is i have i found [TS]

01:59:45   iCloud photo library on so however many [TS]

01:59:49   tens of thousands of photos i have my [TS]

01:59:50   overall I cloud library they're not all [TS]

01:59:53   on my iPhone so it only grabbed some of [TS]

01:59:55   the ones that are actually present and [TS]

01:59:57   then the worst part was [TS]

01:59:57   then the worst part was [TS]

02:00:00   it took 1590 of them and the day that I [TS]

02:00:06   did this was October 20th and it gave [TS]

02:00:09   all 1590 of my photos the date of [TS]

02:00:11   october 20th 2016 yeah and most of them [TS]

02:00:15   where I think what happened I haven't [TS]

02:00:18   done like a full investigation but i [TS]

02:00:19   think what happened is that these were [TS]

02:00:20   images where they didn't have the date [TS]

02:00:22   in the EXIF data that the date was only [TS]

02:00:26   the file date the filesystem date my [TS]

02:00:29   phone my iphone knows exactly what date [TS]

02:00:31   they were picked by you know on my mac [TS]

02:00:34   everywhere I've had these photos like [TS]

02:00:35   they they were in my iPhoto library from [TS]

02:00:39   back when I photo was a thing I've had [TS]

02:00:41   these photos [TS]

02:00:42   most of them were like 10 years old a [TS]

02:00:43   lot of them were the images that from [TS]

02:00:47   until like two thousand six or so I was [TS]

02:00:48   I think about 2006 I still shot a lot of [TS]

02:00:51   images on 35 millimeter film with it [TS]

02:00:53   with an SLR and what i would do is when [TS]

02:00:56   I got those photos developed [TS]

02:00:57   I would have them skiing i would have [TS]

02:00:59   the photo development place scan them to [TS]

02:01:00   a CD and a lot of them were those images [TS]

02:01:03   and I just think that they didn't put XF [TS]

02:01:05   data and I think but the dates just came [TS]

02:01:07   from the dates on the CD you know that [TS]

02:01:09   files had dates they just weren't like [TS]

02:01:11   official met anyway google gave me 1600 [TS]

02:01:14   photos on that date and it was that that [TS]

02:01:17   that was an Irish I i think i would have [TS]

02:01:23   been better off I I don't know that to [TS]

02:01:26   me that the upgrade from your phone is a [TS]

02:01:27   little bit of a gimmick i don't know i [TS]

02:01:30   think i would have been better off [TS]

02:01:30   setting up fresh ok it took it took it [TS]

02:01:33   from a backup or United you just have to [TS]

02:01:36   connect your descendants turn off the [TS]

02:01:38   option because it was probably the phone [TS]

02:01:41   your iphone was thinking I I'm gonna [TS]

02:01:43   give anything and encrypted backup [TS]

02:01:45   yes exactly yeah right exactly so you [TS]

02:01:48   have to yeah that's a I didn't know I [TS]

02:01:50   never really thought about how that work [TS]

02:01:51   but that's how it worked and I no [TS]

02:01:53   interest in that I wasn't curious enough [TS]

02:01:55   about how it work to do that yeah I [TS]

02:01:56   didn't realize that anything else other [TS]

02:01:58   than itunes could get your i'm gonna [TS]

02:02:01   guess that makes sense if it's not [TS]

02:02:02   encrypted but I mean right that I'm just [TS]

02:02:04   never had any experience with that [TS]

02:02:05   anything other than itunes getting stuff [TS]

02:02:08   i mean obviously camera there's other [TS]

02:02:10   camera snaps that can grab [TS]

02:02:12   photos but i didn't know that like [TS]

02:02:15   things like SMS messages were also [TS]

02:02:17   possible what else finger poop [TS]

02:02:21   fingerprint sensor on the back [TS]

02:02:23   no good it is it's inconvenient as you [TS]

02:02:27   would know I didn't do there's not a [TS]

02:02:29   back [TS]

02:02:29   yeah it's where the apple logo is on an [TS]

02:02:31   iphone yeah it's you know it's not the [TS]

02:02:34   worst but they do have to eat you [TS]

02:02:36   you do have to fish around for it [TS]

02:02:37   sometimes yeah and you can't I can't [TS]

02:02:41   figure out why sometimes i can wake the [TS]

02:02:42   phone by doing it and sometimes I can't [TS]

02:02:44   I just is not as good as having the [TS]

02:02:47   fingerprint sensor where Apple put it [TS]

02:02:49   yeah now could be that I don't you know [TS]

02:02:52   got a couple years of my phone [TS]

02:02:54   experience and that's a little [TS]

02:02:56   subjective but i don't think so what [TS]

02:03:01   else material it's the aluminum is [TS]

02:03:04   actually like more of a matte finish [TS]

02:03:06   than apples it doesn't really feel as [TS]

02:03:09   nice but I think it's less slippery so [TS]

02:03:11   there's a practical advantage to it i [TS]

02:03:14   think it's very cute i got the black one [TS]

02:03:15   of course I think it's very strange that [TS]

02:03:18   they named the color quite black like [TS]

02:03:20   which is a very googly cutie thing when [TS]

02:03:23   in fact it's not quite black at all in [TS]

02:03:25   fact honest-to-god the better name for [TS]

02:03:27   it would be not quite black because it's [TS]

02:03:30   very very clearly just a dark gray and [TS]

02:03:33   the display is black so we look at it [TS]

02:03:35   especially in sunlight both on the front [TS]

02:03:38   and the rear its it is definitely dark [TS]

02:03:41   gray not black so it seems very funny to [TS]

02:03:45   me that they named it quite black yeah [TS]

02:03:48   maybe not quite black would be even [TS]

02:03:49   funnier [TS]

02:03:50   no I mean you know we'd be like a funny [TS]

02:03:51   joke and more accurate [TS]

02:03:54   I what else and other than that it's a [TS]

02:03:57   very nice phone i do think that this [TS]

02:03:59   oled display I've compared it the best [TS]

02:04:01   comparison i think of is looking at [TS]

02:04:03   Instagram and I look at the same photos [TS]

02:04:05   on both phones on Instagram and [TS]

02:04:08   especially in in kit to me in [TS]

02:04:11   incandescent lighting meaning photos [TS]

02:04:13   that are taken indoors [TS]

02:04:15   at nighttime the I don't think it's it's [TS]

02:04:20   not the camera because the these images [TS]

02:04:21   are from Instagram it's the display it [TS]

02:04:24   makes people look sort of yellowy it [TS]

02:04:26   makes it the oled display to meet gets [TS]

02:04:29   it's a very orangey yellow a color that [TS]

02:04:33   looks on that doesn't look like to me [TS]

02:04:34   what a room looks like in indoor [TS]

02:04:37   lighting whereas the iphone does so I [TS]

02:04:39   I'm still skeptical about oled as a [TS]

02:04:42   replacement for lcds on on these devices [TS]

02:04:44   and then last but not least i still [TS]

02:04:48   really dislike android well i hope my [TS]

02:04:54   pictures like look good on my magic [TS]

02:04:56   toolbar and i kinda worried about that i [TS]

02:05:01   will say this lie I would summarize it [TS]

02:05:03   like this if I could run iOS on this [TS]

02:05:05   device how I would not be as happy as i [TS]

02:05:08   am with the iphone 7 but I this is the [TS]

02:05:10   first android device i've ever used [TS]

02:05:11   where I think I'd be fine and I wouldn't [TS]

02:05:14   hate my life every day that I had to do [TS]

02:05:15   if i could run iOS on this device it [TS]

02:05:18   would be fine it is by far and away the [TS]

02:05:19   nicest android phone i've ever used [TS]

02:05:21   that's present I could you know i'd i [TS]

02:05:25   would need the entire three-hour episode [TS]

02:05:26   of the show to go through what i don't [TS]

02:05:28   like about and right yeah well have a [TS]

02:05:32   good time on thursday [TS]

02:05:34   alright think of myself more macbooks [TS]

02:05:36   for me i will try to get you a chair in [TS]

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