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00:00:02 ◼   ► they're doing the like grinding like I [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► don't like a saw [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► it's like sanding or something and it's [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► funny because i was so actually this [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► podcast is going to have a different [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► character than usual because as his [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► listeners outdated vast usually when we [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► record it's it's I would say morning but [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► it's more like noon ish your time and [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► it's like middle of the night my time [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► and I am usually drinking scotch right [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► now but now it is it is morning my time [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► in an evening your time which means i'm [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► drinking coffee and sparkling water so [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► my character may be different but yes we [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► also have to put up with environmental [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► noise [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► they've been doing it for a while now [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► and I i think i have gotten used to it [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► so I don't even didn't even occur to me [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► until I said don't like oh crap ever had [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► this stupid construction going on so [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► many out that's a long-winded [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► introduction to if there is weird [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► grinding noises uh I I apologize because [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► it's not me it's the construction I to [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► drinking coffee in sparkling water [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► no you're gonna be up all night and [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► probably what I speaking of serenity [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► called why'd I have some follow-up here [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► forgot this last week I should've done [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► last week [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► serenity and I two episodes ago we're [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► talking about my inability to I all I [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► wanted to do it because i have a [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► brand-new 256 gigabyte iphone and one of [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► the things i wanted to do is just put [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► all of my music on it because my music [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► library is let's see if i can find it [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► here less than 250 621 gigabyte i have [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► 4,000 songs 21 gigabyte so you know it's [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► not that big but you know big butt but [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► not not that big easily fits on 256 [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► gigabyte iphone and that way just put it [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► all over there and then I never have to [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► worry i get on an airplane [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► I can be out in the sticks I can I could [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► lose my sim card and I've got all my [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► music and there's that could for the [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► life of me couldn't figure out how to do [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► it because i'm also using iCloud music [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► library like if I will didn't use iCloud [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► music library I [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► could do it the old-fashioned way where [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► I just plug it into my mac by the [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► lightning cable and then you'd in itunes [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► go over to music and say sync everything [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► and then hit a button and you know wait [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► for it to be done and then boom there's [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► all my music you can't do that with [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► likely if you have icloud me music [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► library on when you go to music on your [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► Mac when it's connected it just says [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► you're using iCloud music library do it [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► all that way and serenity who knows a [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► lot more about this stuff than I do [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► because she actually like we're gonna [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► write all these like detailed how to she [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► was stumped too anyway long story short [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► the best way to do this and I've just [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► I've so far I've got a bunch of people [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► on Twitter Email whole bunch of people [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► have given me the solution i'll put a [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► link to it in the show notes it's but [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► long story short the way you can do this [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► the only workaround the best worker [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► anybody can think of is you create a [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► smart playlists that matches all music [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► let's see what my criteria are groups [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► started playing music here if I edit [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► smart i tried to double-click a smart [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► playlists to show the credentials here [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► if media kind are no match match music [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► for all of the following and I put size [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► is less than 300 megabytes so any audio [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► file any music file that's less than 300 [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► megabytes and it'll be matched by the [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► playlist and I said 300 megabytes I [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► don't even know why it's arbitrary [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► arbitrary number but i have a couple of [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► really big audio files that i do want to [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► sink to the iphone like I have the [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► area's been the criterion collection [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► Tommy's . James Bond directors [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► commentary [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► no I have not Merlin man turned turned [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► me on to these long time ago so when the [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► long story short when the first laser [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► discs of the criterion collection bond [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► movies came out like the the [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► the Connery arrow ones so you got like [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► you know Goldfinger and dr. no and from [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► russia with love the the commentaries [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► weren't approved by eon productions and [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► that's there's some really interesting [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► stuff on them like the editor I forget [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► his name but the guy who edited [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► Goldfinger more or less through the [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► director under the bus about some [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► totally mismatched shots and camera [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► angles that made it a disaster to put [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► together and once you hear him saying [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► you can see a hunt [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► Peter Hunt exactly who went on to direct [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► on her majesty's secret service which I [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► thought was a terrible movie but some [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► people love the fact that i was just [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► thinking that but that's neither here [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► nor there but but Peter Hunt really [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► throws that was the I forget who [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► directed that was it a guy hamilton who [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► directed the Goldfinger i'm looking it [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► up or maybe that was the first 1i [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► royalty is didn't guy allen alright so [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► you could always adopt him he throws him [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► under the bus about some mismatch [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► footage and it's that opening scene [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► where where bond is at the fountainbleau [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► down in Miami and Felix Leiter shows up [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► and everything get started but shot the [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► shot some of it outdoors at like a real [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► outdoor resort and some of it on a [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► soundstage and it was just a mismatch [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► anyway once Eon Productions got you know [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► you know they were like wow this is this [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► is really some fascinating [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► behind-the-scenes stuff when they listen [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► to it they they made the criterion [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► people pull it from like future editions [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► so anyway I've got copies of these [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► things as mp3 files they're almost [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► almost 300 megabytes and so that's why i [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► picked up but anyway long story short [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► make a playlist smart playlists that [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► will match all music then you go over to [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► your phone and you can go to the [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► playlist and then you can hit the cloud [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► button for that playlist which was which [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► means download all the songs on this [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► playlist but since the playlist matches [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► all of your songs [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► it will download all of your songs but [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► Apple seemingly goes way out of its way [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► to deliberately make that something that [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► you can't do like is when you go to the [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► without going to playlist if you just go [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► to all music there is no cloud button [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► yeah well I guess the question is [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► they deliberately go out of their way to [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► make it difficult or is it just general [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► the the general the moai's that is the [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► case with itunes apple music I think in [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► this case it's deliberate [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► I think they want you to support [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► admission or sin of omission yes I think [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► it's sort of like you're supposed but [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► it's very frustrating i think for people [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► like I I don't know every single you [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► every year when my wife gets a new [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► iphone there's a time where I I catch an [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► earful because she goes to the gym and [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► her iphone doesn't have any music on it [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► even though share last one did and then [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► she did a full backup and restore and [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► you know do everything you can to say [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► make my new iphone just like my last one [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► and then there isn't every year none of [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► our music and she's you know like at the [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► gym that she goes to there's no signal [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► you know you can't it's not like you can [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► download the stuff every year and I just [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► don't have that I don't think it's that [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► much to ask [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► yeah the the whole it's interesting I [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► haven't really thought about this a ton [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► but you know I use I streaming services [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► the various ones and it's funny because [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► I actually have its really frustrating I [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► i actually have a subscription to both [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► Spotify and Apple music and the reason [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► is that when i mentor thing we're [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► harvesting a little bit when i'm bored [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► him in the car [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► well drive with the kids like I was like [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► to request songs and so using Siri is is [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► obviously preferable when you're driving [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► and so it's worth it for that but then [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► like my stereo has like Spotify connect [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► which is which is really great like i [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► can place of my phone or whatever [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► interest in just playing on the stereo [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► it's not like it's kind of color [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► chromecast works where you control it [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► but it's not like streaming like airplay [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► which is it just it's a much better [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► model works much better at least at [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► least for me and now like the amazon has [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► come out their service that will plan [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► the echo we have we have an echo setup [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► arm and was like 'well it boy that be [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► convenient it doesn't Spotify as well so [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► it works but yet this this whole like [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► yes there's the allure of having all the [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► music and having access to it but and [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► there's like the upfront cost is much [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► lower but the cost at the back end like [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► actually playing your music there's all [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► these sort of hidden costs that are [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► there and it you don't [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► I'm i'm ok i'm paying it for it now like [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► quite literally but the it's really [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► really it's funny the music industry is [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► all about like yes they were of course [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► they're motivated to have their music [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► everywhere but they're reinforcing these [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► silos with with a sort of new model I [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► mean like if you have if you're not only [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► all apple if you're not only all [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► whatever service you're kind of stuck in [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► the middle it is very frustrating [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► yeah and i don't know i don't know how [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► much of it is related to the fact that [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► if you buy say a 32 gigabyte iphone you [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► don't want your 20 gigabyte library sink [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► over and yes they have the optimized [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► storage feature for that for music and [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► have it for the photos too but it [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► certainly would be very easy for [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► somebody with a 32-gigabyte device to to [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► you know run up against the limit and so [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► maybe that's why I don't know but it's [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► yeah that's a good point they probably [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► sell more of the of the the world across [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► phone then if you look at the average [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► selling prices that's it is waiting in [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► that direction [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► yeah and you know I i admit that i guess [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► the idea of I want all of my entire [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► music on my device all the time is sort [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► of an old-fashioned I'm still thinking [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► like it's the ipod hero but I i actually [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► find it useful [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► o Allah or at least every time I try [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► every time I fly if I want to get it [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► though it is i should do that now [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► because I I mom might my eye I realized [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► my big storage issue with phones and so [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► I got this the first time you've gotten [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► the absolute largest one I i think is 64 [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► previously and and it i bumped up [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► against the limits or or this over the [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► last year but my big culprit is his [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► podcast i think my the overcast app was [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► occupying like 16 gigabytes or something [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► like that something ridiculous because [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► all I call QA was that I want to listen [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► to our recommendations and i'll just be [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► sitting in there and who knows if Oliver [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► listen to them but yeah it you can just [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► that that's for me that's that's the big [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► culprit where I keep my stuff that but I [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► don't know it's we're talking before I [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► did there's there's still like these [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► these rough edges of the having [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► everything in the cloud is convenient [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► but but yeah there . is it [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► it's definitely one for me I travel a [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► lot and it's there's nothing more [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► frustrating than being in a a place [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► where you just you just can't get in [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► you're stuck [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► I've actually actually speaking of like [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► old-school itunes and ipod I got a so [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► this company called underwater audio [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► waterproofs uh ipod shuffles and they [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► said waterproof headphones so that you [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► can listen well while swimming which is [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► over it's up it's amazing like it did I [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► mean I've you know exercises are already [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► miserable enough but to be actually [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► listen to podcasts whatever we're doing [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► it is is great the problem is and it [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► took me awhile to figure this out is is [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► I what about your podcast on to the [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► shuffle which is already a pain to have [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► to go i used itunes and it's not synced [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► with overcast sort of stuff but I get [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► there into the pool and and i can't i'm [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► stuck on the first podcast and I can't [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► go to the next one you get the next [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► button on the ipod shuffle what would [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► you expect to happen you think would go [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► to the to the next track it doesn't it [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► turns out that with the last ipod [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► shuffle you have to use voiceover it [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► turns out voiceover doesn't work very [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► well when you're in the pool so in [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► there's no Mike idiot you can there's a [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► way around if I called down the [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► voice-over button and then the next but [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► in the next buttons work it [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► super-complicated makes no sense at all [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► but yeah anyways it's been it's been [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► really eye-opening but beyond that just [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► like having to use itunes again and [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► actually sink stuff like manually manage [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► things like you really appreciate this [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► idea that i can subscribe to podcasts [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► regular music and it's just there and [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► you don't have to think about it to [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► actually have like pre planned on going [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► to listen to its it's like man we we [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► live like savages for a long time huh a [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► good segue to my next bit of follow-up [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► now this is from last week's show I [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► always say last week even though it's [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► sort of like on a 10-day schedule but [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► the previous episode when that Ben not [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► bend your been at Matthew pants arena [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► was on and we were talking about the [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► airpot and about how the biggest minus [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► the only significant the only serious [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► minus about them to me is that they [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► don't have the little buttons for play [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► pause [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► and up down for volume and because it's [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► not so much the play/pause because they [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► the the whole idea where you just take [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► the one out and it pauses and you put it [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► back in and it plays works really really [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► well in almost every situation in fact [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► in some situations it works even better [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► than the button because for me a lot of [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► the times it's like if I've got them on [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► because i'm listening to something and [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► i'm in a store like grocery shopping and [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► then I get to the register i always like [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► to take my headphones out or at least [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► take one out so that I don't look like [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► I'm listening to something and so to [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► integrate the play/pause and the taking [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► out of a of a of it you know one of the [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► airport's it works great but what you [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► what I miss is like the next track [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► previous track like the shortcuts like [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► by double-clicking they used to be able [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► to do and I said that you can't use Siri [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► to change the volume so when you double [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► tap one of the air pods and say like [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► turn the volume up or turn the volume [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► down doesn't work you have to change the [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► volume either from your Apple watch if [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► you have one or by taking your getting [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► to your phone and using the volume [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► buttons on the phone turns out I was [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► you can definitely change the volume by [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► Cirie you can do next track previous [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► track I I did it the one time I tried it [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► i did try it and and I said turn the [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► volume up and I was outside that which [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► might have been the problem and serious [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► said I'm sorry I can't do that John and [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► I took that as meaning that she [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► completely understood what i asked but [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► was telling me that's I I can't do this [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► and this is you know we might get back [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► to this later about Syria it my fault it [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► really is my laziness that but I [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► interpreted that you know what I mean [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► like it wasn't like she said sorry I [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► didn't understand you [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► she said I'm sorry I can't do that John [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► and so I took it as meaning volume [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► control is something that was outside [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► the control of Syria turns out I was [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► completely wrong a couple people have [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► their pods correcting me on that now [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► obviously this is not many people have [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► their pods at the time but then I tried [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► it again and it does work you could say [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► volume up volume down [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► turn the volume up turn the volume down [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► next track go back a track previous [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► track [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► I don't have a full list of it but you [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► know there's synonyms that work like go [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► back a track in previous track are the [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► same thing those small world cup can you [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► can you do like this get 15 seconds [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► earth sort of thing I mean they like the [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► the headphones if you would like I can i [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► use overcast if you so Marc was it up if [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► you double-click like it will skip 30 [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► seconds you can set the the whatever [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► whatever length you want I I don't know [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► I don't know what happens in overcast I [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► suspect if I say next ride and try it I [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► suspect if I said next track and [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► overcast it would just go to the next [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► podcast I don't think yeah this is [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► interesting [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► I don't think you couldn't do you know i [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► mean i think i think with the clicker [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► Marco could have could look into it in a [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► way that I don't think Cirie would [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► enable but I well now we just have to [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► follow up all over the next one cast [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► aside next week a couple of people then [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► wrote and I don't think I don't think [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► Matthew and I talked about it but a [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► couple people said if you have like one [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► of the pains in the butt if you do have [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► the watch it's a little bit easier if [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► you need if you don't want to use it [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► serie to do it but you still have to [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► bring up like if you're in a workout [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► which is often the situation I'm in [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► where I do want to adjust the volume [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► like I'm out running and like it gets [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► noisy like if I'm running through a [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► noisier traffic neighborhood i want to [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► turn the volume up because i can't hear [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► any more on the watch you still have to [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► poke around a little bit to get to a [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► screen where you can adjust the volume [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► like you that you you know the easiest [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► way in my opinion is to just get to the [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► now playing glance which I keep is the [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► first glance so it's usually not you [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► know it's like one tap tap on the [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► sidebar then tap on now playing and then [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► once you're on now playing you can [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► actually change the volume by spinning [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► the crown which is really really nice [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► when your fingers are sweaty or [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► something like that you have to poke at [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► the little buttons on screen but it [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► would be kind of nice if you could [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► somehow set a preference so that if [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► there's music playing right now three or [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► either your phone or the watch that you [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► could use the crown from like the watch [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► face to change the volume because right [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► now the crown on the watch face does [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► nothing could be kind of nice if we [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► could change the volume [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► so when you when you spend the crown on [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► the watch face it does it doesn't longer [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► zoom into like that app you know [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► ok and watch os3 it does nothing and it [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► doesn't do they actually if you're on [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► the app you it does Jim you back towards [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► the watch face right but one you're on [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► the watch face what he used to do in [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► watch us to is it gave you the time time [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► travel or whatever they called it may be [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► well used to be that you would assume in [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► yeah i do it was funny because I i I've [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► observed people who are technical users [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► and that was for sure one of the things [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► that always gotten frustrated like I was [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► actually my god . who was used to use [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► wearing an Apple watch is asking about [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► it you know how you liked it and he [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► generally liked it but that was he like [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► that the fact that he's like it keeps [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► coming in and I don't know why like that [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► was the one thing that was driving a map [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► the wall so I didn't realize that they [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► have changed i guess im so accustomed to [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► not even touching it that that I didn't [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► notice but I think in general I would I [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► would be surprised if you know I clearly [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► i think we were were definitely an [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► agreement this like Apple there were [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► some unfortunate decisions that were [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► made about how to watch what should be [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► used in version one I think they kind of [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► they went too far down the road of [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► prescribing how people would use it [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► instead of waiting to understand how [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► people wanted you know what actually use [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► it and one of the casualties of that I [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► think was the functionality of the [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► buttons in general and so the acid [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► awakened in version one pressing that [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► button was like the whole contacts like [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► personal communication crap whatever [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► which is now completely gone but in [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► general I think there's still that sort [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► of it's not fully realize the potential [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► those buttons like that but the button [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► should be much more usable and I bet [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► over time become even more usable in [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► apps and same thing with the digital [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► crown like what you're talking about [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► makes perfect sense of music is playing [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► why shouldn't that be volume and [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► especially if they're gonna pursue this [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► focus of being health and fitness wear a [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► touchscreen that that's like the worst [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► possible scenario for a touchscreen and [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► it's an example of how the there they're [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► kind of the health and fitness focus is [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► a is was clearly not [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► what they're thinking about from day one [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► it was a part of it but it wasn't like [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► the thing that is for I think there's [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► things they would have done differently [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► and and one of those things would have [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► gone differently is how those buttons [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► are used and so I would imagine in like [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► watches for for example they're gonna [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► move even more to those buttons being [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► actual used in the crown being actually [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► usable controls right now if you're in a [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► workout you and you have you know the [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► workout thing is on your you know on [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► your better you see when you're you know [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► because you're doing a walk or run or [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► something when you spin the crown it [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► just changes the focus from the [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► different things on the screen like if [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► I'm trying and I'm doing a fake run [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► right now as I spin it down it goes from [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► the elapsed time to the active calories [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► to the Part B you know and just focus [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► changes focus i would i would find it [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► much more useful to have that change the [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► volume honestly but that's just me [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► yeah well I think idea and I want to [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► again this is one of those things where [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► they change so much and always three [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► they're really just fundamentally [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► changed how the operating system worked [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► and you're not going to get everything [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► in kind of one goal is just fine like I [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► think that's the that's the mistake i [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► think they made in version one like that [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► it was over it was over prescribed the [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► way you want to use it without really i [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► think having an understanding how people [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► would use this time you go back [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► did this is what made the the the first [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► phone in particular so you know so smart [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► is whether there's this classic story in [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► InDesign talk like i'm sure you've heard [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► a million times but out where there's [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► some school or whatever where they they [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► built up this whole new area of the [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► campus or something like that and [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► instead of putting in sidewalks then put [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► it like this really nice grass and then [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► they observed where the grass got worn [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► down and then they put sidewalks there [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► and like that'sthat's just stay there [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► and you can see there's other examples [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► where there's like a path and right next [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► to it there's like worn-down grass [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► because people are taking like little [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► shortcuts and stuff like that and with [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► the phone in particular Apple really [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► took sort of the grass approach where [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► they got the basics there they got a [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► browser they got a phone they got ipod [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► and then the last breast of it was [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► really you know that . where folks like [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► you know Craig Hockenberry whatever [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► we're figuring out the API and we're [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► building you know side-loaded [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► applications i think was really valuable [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► to to help Apple really understand what [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► needed to be built it and how they [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► should go about you know opening up the [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► API and what things might be possible [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► and that's the exact opposite process [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► they did with the watch like the watch [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► that it was it was they did too much [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► there wasn't enough of a sort of open [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► canvas to figure out what works and what [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► doesn't and now they're having to kind [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► of unwind what they did before and [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► thatthat's just going to take time I [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► don't know if that that story is [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► apocryphal or not the story about the [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► pads on campus but I remember it's great [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► story though it's a great story and it's [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► there's a truth to it because i remember [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► a truck soul when i was there in the [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► late nineties there were definite dirt [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► paths through grass you know that word [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► they're obviously there forever that [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► clearly they should have you remember [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► when i first heard that story I thought [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► specifically about certain areas if [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► anybody went two directions then I don't [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► know if they even called the campus at [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► drexel has changed so much since i went [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► there but we used to be you know we [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► called it the quad the section off a [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► market street there definitely was a [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► mean it couldn't have been more exactly [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► like that story like here's a plate you [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► know you're supposed to walk all the way [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► over there and go around this building [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► and everybody just cut through right [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► I can't think of two examples in Apple's [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► history where the apples done that and [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► but they're both like classic met you [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► remember the classic mac OS you didn't [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► use the mac back then did you [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► I I do remember it i denied but [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► goodnight and two things I can think of [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► would be command tab where that was that [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► was a windows invention or you'd hit [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► command tab and originally in command [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► tab in Windows you would just cycle [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► through apps in most recently used order [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► and it was you know obviously windows [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► users took to it but then we're we're [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► really became a good interface was when [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► they put up the heads-up display that [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► showed you where you know all of your [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► apps in most recent order so you could [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► see [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► oh I need to go for to get 2x [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► well you know right actually see it used [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► to not have that heads-up display it [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► would just switch through the apps you [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► know and you'd find out what chapter [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► you're getting to each time you hit tab [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► and it became a thing where they were i [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► don't know three or four competing [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► third-party utilities for mac OS that [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► did the exact same thing and everybody [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► had one of them installed [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► I mean it was the I i don't think i dont [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► it was one of those things where I don't [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► know anybody who didn't and eventually [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► Apple acquiesced I don't know which [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► version of mac OS it was but they added [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► it as a as a system-level thing and I [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► think they've delayed on it because I [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► think there was a sort of reluctance to [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► add anything that came to windows first [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► to the mac it you have probably and any [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► other like the other one I could think [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► of was the old Apple menu used to just [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► be a rich in the original mac OS the [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► Apple menu had i think it's i think it [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► has still had like about they had the [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► about for like whatever happier in like [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► about this app would be like the first [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► item in the Apple menu and then the rest [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► of it was just a list of your desk [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► accessories which were like the little [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► in this is for super old is like going [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► back to the eighties back west which [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► were the little love in das terms what [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► they used to call them tossed a little [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► in a way to get multitasking like little [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► in-app with a resident in Resident I [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► have no I I got nothing for you haha [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► well I think of it but anyway desk [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► accessories were little things that ran [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► within the memory of dick app itself so [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► that the calculator and the there was a [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► thing called the scrapbook which is sort [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► of like a clipboard history so you can [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► keep like little snippets attacks and [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► third-party utilities came up that made [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► the Apple menu way more useful see that [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► you could put like an alias to your hard [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► drive in there so you can just go to the [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► apple menu go down to your hard drive [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► and get a hierarchical list of every [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► folder you know so you wouldn't have to [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► go to the finder and go to your hard [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► drive and double-click on a folder and [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► double-click on a folder and [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► double-click you just go to your Apple [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► menu go to your hard drive [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► go to applications go to utilities and [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► then launched that [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► up from that folder that you wanted to [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► or wherever you wanted to go but you [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► instead of leaving a whole history of [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► windows behind of each folder you want [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► to you too it's just a hierarchical go [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► list of menu and then event in everybody [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► and that was another one of those things [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► where everybody had one of these [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► utilities and the one that I used was [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► called now menus . it's really going [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► back but eventually Apple added that to [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► the system as well it was a gay if [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► everybody's got this you should get it [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► ought to be part of the system yet the [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► only it's funny the only the two add-ons [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► that I still depend on now is one is is [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► from windows and it because when i use [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► Windows I'd like there's shortcuts to [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► manage to move your windows around so [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► you can like snap your windows just one [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► side of the one side of the desktop or [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► to another or things like in do all [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► kinds of things so once i have one of [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► those on the mac and i use one called [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► better snap tool but it that's amazing [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► but that's super nice about Apple will [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► ever had that but the other thing and [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► it's funny because this is it for this [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► is arguably the single thing that keeps [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► me using a backhand serve like a of a [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► Chromebook or or and I pottery thing is [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► a clipboard manager it like it's [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► unbelievable how often I use something [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► like that and how much more powerful [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► that makes that makes using using a [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► computer but again I guess they buried [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► to those are pretty nice that they [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► already used all the taking up all the [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► all the wall hanging fruit and which [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► clipboard manager duties is one called [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► copy and paste use lon [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► yeah use launch bar but watch for had [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► this weird bug where it would just it [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► won't work after a while and they [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► eventually fixed it after it was around [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► for years and people complain about the [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► kept saying was apple's fault like every [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► other over the government have a problem [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► but yes I used uh I don't remember why I [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► got it I i mean i got it for when I [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► would need a replacement most so there's [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► a good review somewhere but I've see no [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► reason to switch works well for me you [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► get it keeps a bunch in there you can do [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► stuff like if you if you've copied stuff [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► you can paste as plain text super easily [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► you can make everything all capitals or [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► take away all the capitals like it it [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► was like text transformation on stuff as [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► well if you need so yeah but there's a [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► bunch of them out there i think they're [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► all pretty good [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► the ones i've used our launch bars [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► built-in one which I kind of don't like [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► the display of but it is actually what [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► i'm using right now [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► keyboard maestro your keyboard maestro [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► yeah I've heard of it I I i can if i [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► tried it by boy i strode does so much [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► stuff keyboard maestro is a great [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► utility it's you could you make record [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► macros that do all sorts of things [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► really just sort of automated you know [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► multi-step you can automate the whole [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► GUI really but it also is sort of you [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► can if you want to act as like [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► TextExpander where you type you know [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► TLA and it expands to three letter [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► acronym or somethin like that and it has [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► a clipboard history keyboard maestro his [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► clipboard history is searchable which is [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► actually kinda neat and keyboard my [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► school's out [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► that's the i would be awesome keyboard [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► maestro has a heuristic that looks for [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► things that look like a password and I [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► and bullets them out so and like I think [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► only keep some as forget what else it [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► does it for that if it's just a visual [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► thing or if it if it only lets you copy [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► you know actually paste it when it's the [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► topmost thing but whatever it does it's [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► actually never never want someone who [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► did the wrong thing for me like the [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► heuristic is so smart about it that it [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► however it is that it works it's so [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► smart about about identifying things [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► that look like wow that looks like a [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► week you know like at a password that [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► that somebody would make up for that [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► like a password utility would make up [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► that doesn't get exposed and then one [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► that's most recent which i've used by [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► using beta but I it hasn't stuck with me [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► is pay spot from the tweet but guys [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► yeah I I the the searchable one it would [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► be super valuable I think good because [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► when i do the daily updates particular [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► where those usually have more quotes and [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► links then then my weekly articles do [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► like I will accumulate the ton of weeks [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► in the process of writing just one of [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► them and yes sometimes particularly if I [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► want to look something up like I write [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► about something that i forgot excited of [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► having like I will end up like well over [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► a hundred times every single day after [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► I'm finished writing these it's which is [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► ridiculous i have food fight it's easier [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► to just this is how you get a bunch of [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► tabs [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► instead of going through my tabs and [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► find the article i'm looking for his [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► open a new window and go to my clipboard [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► manager and I know the links in there we [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► can I i just used it but if I can search [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► that would make it even better at yeah [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► it's I it's funny the weird things that [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► you end up doing that are just make no [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► sense at all but you fall into these [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► patterns so alright i will put links to [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► all of those absent in the shop that's [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► where AI and for the record I i think [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► this is why I don't know six or seven [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► time on here and I got a message i woke [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► up to a message from you including notes [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► notes for the podcast i was very [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► impressed i think that that is a first [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► so for the record uh the talk show is [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► getting ever more organized [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► uh chuckles deal we're doing it's the [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► same thing we talked about it on with [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► the pantry and last we're using the [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► iCloud shared notes which is actually [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► pretty pretty useful it is except that [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► the only way I ever forever and maybe [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► except i'm not i'm not in Syria I don't [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► update my mac for usually a couple [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► months after after the update arm but [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► the idea doesn't sync to my icloud on [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► the mac right Pete but that might be [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► just going on the current version but it [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► reminds me of like the one of the the [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► irritations I have with like Apple uh [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► like when they do web app so i have it [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► open in the browser now because that [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► that obviously sinks but i think that [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► the reason why would Apple web apps like [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► try to mimic like desktop apps but that [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► makes them frustrating to use because [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► you know doing something browser isn't [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► as efficient or faster as good of a new [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► user experiences using a native app [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► without question [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► whereas there are some web apps that I [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► use like I do all my writing a web app [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► 11 called draft draft in common is [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► awesome but it's it's it's a web-like it [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► embraces it being a web app and you [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► gettin that's the case for all sorts of [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► products like if you embrace the medium [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► that you're on the user experience can [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► be really great but if you're trying to [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► like mimic one that's from somewhere [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► else it's it's not not nearly as good [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► anyhow that that is just sort of a [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► random sort of observations and I would [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► that is the first time i've used the [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► these [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► thinking or sharing no thing for notes [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► so it's weird i've been doing it for a [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► couple episodes now but I've been [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► running I'm like you I'm very reluctant [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► then and it's always seems like I've got [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► something open i don't want to restart [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► even just restart the machine i still [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► haven't updated my imac to Sierra so and [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► that's where I record from so i have it [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► on my phone and the phone has the new [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► fancy new share this note with somebody [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► and get the changes sync feature but my [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► max version doesn't so and then you had [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► the idea to to use the iCloud web app [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► which never even occurred to me because [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► i never used [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► I never use the iCloud web apps for [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► anything other than find my iphone [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► alright but it's weird too because it it [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► does try to mimic a desktop app but but [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► it's it's not it doesn't look anything [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► like the matter the mac version and it [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► doesn't look like the ipad version [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► either it's like this it it it does look [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► like a desktop app but it doesn't look [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► like a Mac one and it doesn't look like [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► an iPad app yeah who knows what's going [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► on and there's all that it's I don't [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► understand anybody uses web apps and [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► it's because it's like i tried to use [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► the shortcut shift command H to make a [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► text header which works in you know it's [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► a keyboard shortcut i know from the [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► desktop version of note but of course [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► safari ate that keystroke and tried to [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► take me home [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► yeah but it was great it was smart [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► université do you want to do you sure [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► you want to do that because you've got [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► unsaved changes in this text editing [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► field i would much rather an app that [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► just like written in the old 1999 HTML [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► yea though the ones that I use like the [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► their ones that like that they are [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► they're pure web one there . they're [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► there for the web like just unabashedly [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► and there's something I think like I [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► think is one of the reasons why google [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► docs something especially it's gotten [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► better now but you know was very [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► frustrating visit kinda was trying to [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► mimic a desktop interface [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► I mean obviously doctors some amazing [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► things particularly the collaboration [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► stuff and all that but i think though [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► the apps that i actually like using the [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► web and like-for-like the writing one [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► for example it's just like playing field [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► and you get the benefit [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► the web app where stuff saved instantly [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► and and if anything happens like to your [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► computer are you never lose data ever [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► like it's to me it works very well but [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► the the other thing that I do that I [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► think makes it much more tolerable is [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► you know speaking of mac utilities is [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► fluid where you feel like a single-site [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► browser and then you can make an icon so [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► basically when I open like drivers and / [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► or WordPress or MailChimp like the [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► various you know web apps that I use [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► frequently they all have their own [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► they're like their own apps and you you [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► click you make it in fluid and you click [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► it and it opens up with its own icon in [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► the dock and separate and so it's not [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► buried in my hundreds of tabs like its [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► own distinct entity and to me that [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► that's that's another app I cannot live [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► without like if I actually had to use [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► web apps inside a browser like just I'm [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► so disorganized in general would be [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► would be intolerable but fluid-like [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► makes it makes it feel like a normal app [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► which is just a professional standpoint [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► i have used fluid in the past for once [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► or twice when I had to use a web app [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► because it's sometimes you wanted to be [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► a command tab target but it's it's not [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► like a real at all it's terrible [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► no I mean from a navigational standpoint [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► I know your point where you can find it [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► very easily and i can go to it but again [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► but well I think when you get apps that [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► are mimicking desktop apps in the wind [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► and weather they feel awful but like it [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► again just use like draft as an example [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► like you open it up and you open an [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► article and all it is is it's a blank [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► page and you type and it's basically a [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► text editor and it handles markdown and [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► stuff like that so it i find it [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► there's lots of benefits i find from [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► being a web app including particularly [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► the blanket state like I've never ever [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► watched stuff that I've written ever [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► because even if my computer with a crash [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► or or something like that doesn't get [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► corrupted it it's just is it's always [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► there in to me it because it's it's not [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► trying to do too much not try to put all [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► these all these menu bars there and then [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► in make it feel like its word but now [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► it's on the web kinda like Google Docs [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► does not all that sort of thing [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► it's perfectly it's not it's more than [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► tolerable it's it's it's downright [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► enjoyable to use and those are the ones [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► that that [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► I really I really appreciate it i think [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► i've been awhile then I know that for [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► people of our generation losing data on [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► your computer used to be like part of my [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► part of life [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► the outfit is just like you'd felt guess [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► this is my lucky day right like you know [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► your system would freeze up the app [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► would just crash and vanish no apps and [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► the old days did autosave you were stuck [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► with the last time you ever hit command [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► s and everybody had a horror tale I [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► don't think it ever really happened to [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► me in a catastrophic way but everybody [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► knew somebody at least it wasn't like [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► you had to know somebody who knew [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► somebody whose brother you knew somebody [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► who had happened to where they open up [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► in a word or whatever they use hit [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► command and started writing a paper got [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► to the end and that's when you know [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► maybe when they went to hit print the [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► print driver crashed and because they'd [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► never saved the whole thing was gone it [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► was all your nightmares Fear available [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► and there was nothing you could do is [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► brutal [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► there was no like cash of of temporary [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► save files there's no no matter how much [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► of an expert you were computing there [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► was absolutely nothing you could do and [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► we just accepted that all well I guess I [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► should hit hit command and I got weighed [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► ourselves rather than others but that [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► and it was actually that was the main [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► reason that was a common scenario was [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► that that first command ass was sort of [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► a pain in the ass because you have to [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► pick a location and then pick a file [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► name and subsequent command asses are [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► always very easy because is nothing else [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► to do you have already given it a [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► location in a name and the command ask [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► you just you know in the old days she [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► did after wait you have to wait like a [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► second or two for the actual file to [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► write but it was nowhere near as much of [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► a cognitive hurdle of that first command [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► ass would you know you know the right [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► interface i think this is one of those [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► ways that the original mac team got [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► wrong was in in those days if that's how [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► it was going to be where there was no [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► autosave when you hit command and [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► instead of immediately giving you a new [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► untitled window it should have [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► immediately forced you to pick a [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► location in a file name whatever [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► something that before you get that [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► window where you can start typing you [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► should have had to pick a location [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► filename [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► why do that I think so one of the things [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► that's great about iOS and there's [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► another use web apps is the because iOS [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► from the was from the ground up kind of [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► designed that way and apps in general [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► are always saving and are always [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► thinking you know thinking what they [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► have the cloud there's no I distinct [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► sort of save process it's sort of [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► integral 22 how they work so i have a [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► lot of apps where I have a ir s version [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► and then i have the web version on on my [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► mac and i like those because they're [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► always in sync constantly whereas ones [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► that have a mac app and ones that have [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► an iOS app the mac app that the sink is [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► never like perfect every time like for [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► me like it if I don't trust the sink [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► that it's going to be synced up every [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► single time like it almost like to me [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► that's trumped like the user interface [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► like of like using a native app which i [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► do prefer native apps in general but if [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► I don't have full confidence that it's [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► going to be synced every single time i [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► will put up with the with the web app [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► just to have that that knowledge is [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► always there occurs to me having it [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► always available is key and I know that [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► Apple you know tried to sort of rejigger [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► the document model was it back in Lyon [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► to make it more iOS like yeah but the [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► problem was you know I think the I still [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► that still drives me up the wall like it [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► actually I that's one reason I stopped [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► using i work i know they sort of added [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► it back in bits and pieces and some [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► terminal commands you can get to like [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► restoring the same as button and stuff [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► but I now you hold on I'll show me it [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► was ours no I think that you can add a [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► personalized there's a terminal command [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► you can have it on the menu permanently [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► have to press option every single time [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► but the I destroyed so many documents by [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► forgetting to like duplicate and like [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► the autosave is up its well it's like [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► the passing like what [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► once you have the muscle memory and [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► you're used to doing a certain way even [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► if that's not the best way like you're [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► it's it it was for people who are you [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► have been using it for years it's like [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► too late it and but anyhow so now we're [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► not accusing what apps but like that in [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► the right kind in the right context that [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► I like them [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► uh I were 43 minutes and we have talking [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► anyway long story short the airplane at [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► the airport their pods do have serious [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► happens that was the best digression [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► ever i will say this is one of those [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► those serie commands for controlling the [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► audio on the air pods they do work I end [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► and they've worked remarkably well ever [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► since it was pointed out to me that they [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► work i don't know why it failed for me [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► the first time but they're not [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► instantaneous it's the double tap [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► there's a moment before you hear the [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► Serie okay I'm listening [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► and then there's a moment after that [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► before it'll actually catch everything [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► you say so it works but it's nowhere [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► near as instantaneous is just clicking [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► the button on your another the earphone [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► cable to just go volume up volume up or [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► something like that [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► interesting how the the silver the only [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► controls that you have on their pods are [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► trigger Siri or take them out of here [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► and pause right yeah it's just there's [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► no extra like there's nothing else [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► there's no and there's no options for [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► like triple clip you know you DoubleTap [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► for Siri there's no way to say that if I [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► triple tap or quadruple tap or something [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► like that to do something else maybe [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► they'll do that in the future maybe not [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► because it's a little you know finicky [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► overall this is not a dealbreaker be for [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► me by any part I the only headphones i [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► want to use other than the ones I used [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► for podcasting our airports it's you [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► know it is though the only minus i can [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► think of with them now that's [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► interesting i I'm I'm worried i know you [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► said that they fit better than the [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► regular year ones that which don't fit [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► in my ears at a at all so I'm gonna I'm [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► gonna get them i'm very intrigued by [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► them but that that specific point is is [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► a little bit it's weird i can see both [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► both have been situation where I both [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► want to take them out of my ear but then [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► I also have to hit pause so that idea [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► about doing it once is is really [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► compelling for the same situation if you [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► want to talk to somebody on you and you [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► know you want to take take take out your [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► ear but at the same time I'm worried [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► about fit and I'm worried about the data [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► having that control i use that I use the [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► clicker either beats ones and I use that [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► clicker all the time i did too at the [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► beach ones [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► alright let's take a break and thank our [TS]

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00:44:06 ◼   ► backblaze back plays you know you know [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► these guys they offer unlimited native [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► backup for the mac and for a pc i don't [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► know I've never used to pc so you have [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► to take their word for that but on a mac [TS]

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00:44:27 ◼   ► during fireball I say this every time I [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► wish that they would stop sponsoring the [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► show because they would write to me and [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► say sorry John nobody's signing up [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► anymore because everybody listens to the [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► talk show is signed up for back place i [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► would love it would make me feel better [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► even though I i do like the money that [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► they sponsor the show I would feel [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► better knowing that everybody was [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► listening to this show has some sort of [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► offline out of their office backup use [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► it in addition don't use it you don't [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► have to use it as your only backup you [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► good theory i think backup is the 11 of [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► those things that really should be you [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► know you should have multiple layers of [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► it so use time machine use super duper [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► or something like that to make a clone [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► of your startup disk do those things [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► hard drives external hard drives are [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► relatively cheap you can buy them you [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► know especially if you get the spinning [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► disk once you can get them just for [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► backup and they're so cheap do it but [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► having a backup that's off site is such [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► a I say it every time it makes you sleep [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► it is such a relief to know that [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► everything and back place has no limits [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► you think [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► well I'd like to sign up but I've got a [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► giant you know hard drive full of all [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► these movies and and photos I don't want [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► to have to decide what I back up and it [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► is unlimited [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► it doesn't matter you pay five bucks per [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► Mac per month five bucks a month for [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► each mac and it doesn't matter how much [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► you have they'll just back it all up the [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► only hitch is that it just takes longer [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► for that initial backup to actually [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► upload everything you've got so the more [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► data you have yes it there's no magic [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► that will let 10 terabytes update in an [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► hour [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► it's not going to happen but however [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► long it takes once is updated it just [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► you know incremental e runs from there [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► it i have never noticed it [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► I mean I've been talking about [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► problems with some other apps that take [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► up space i often have Activity Monitor [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► running and I'm looking at apps that are [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► taking up too much cpu I've never seen [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► back plays pop up in my list of cpu [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► usage and never slows down your machine [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► i have no idea when it runs i don't know [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► i just said it to the default settings [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► and let go [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► I never noticed and it's always there [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► and when I have checked just to see [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► what's in my back place it's always [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► up-to-date it is an amazing service the [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► mac software is written by former Apple [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► engineers it's totally native it's just [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► a simple control panel in the system [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► preferences and there's no gimmick for [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► additional charges there's no trick to [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► this five dollars a month per device to [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► the thing that's the offer and that's it [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► so go to backpage.com / daring fireball [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► then don't know you came from here you [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► get 15 days to try it free do that you [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► won't be charged a nickel before then [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► and then you just start paying after [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► that so my thanks to back place go sign [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► up for them sign up your parents signed [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► up anybody you know I get everybody back [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► tub i am a happy customer [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► it's a great service alright what else [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► we got on the agenda you see on twitter [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► i tweeted a couple like a week or two [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► ago that Amy's watch fell apart I did [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► yes it is funny because you why didn't [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► you describe what happened but my wife [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► has been complaining that her watch is [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► getting really bad at heart rate [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► monitoring up its going to have heart [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► yeah I don't sell it sell that I [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► guarantee it she's probably like three [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► weeks three weeks the head of a me so [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► that's what happened so what happened he [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► has a 13 millimeter stainless steel [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► Apple watch that we have the same it was [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► just very early maybe even ordered like [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► when they first went on sale and you [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► know they were famously backordered for [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► a while so sometime in May of last [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► year's when she got it [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► she's worn it not necessarily every day [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► but she's worn it most days and she [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► loves it for the fitness tracking it is [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► first and foremost a fitness tracker for [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► she was it when she works out she wears [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► it the filler circles everyday and a [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► couple weeks ago my question exactly she [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► just started vaguely again it's she [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► blames me for everything that goes wrong [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► with every Apple [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► it's not even like she asked for help [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► she's blaming me that and she blamed me [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► that she was getting less do credit less [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► credit for things and you know like some [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► things like a workout in the gym maybe [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► you know some days you were feeling it [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► and you know you're more motivated or [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► you have more energy and you you know [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► you you know an hour doing the same [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► exercise maybe you do burn more calories [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► because you're you know you were more [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► into it but she was getting less 4 u'r [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► calories burn counted even for things [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► like walking to school to pick Jonas up [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► if she said like a walk then which you'd [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► think would should be very very close [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► every single day and usually used to be [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► and hers was very low and then she [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► upgraded to watch os3 and it went the [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► other way and she started getting like [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► seemingly extra credit for her calories [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► burned and she she didn't complain as [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► much then but she still thought [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► something was flaky and then the other [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► day about a week ago and then she woke [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► up and she went to take your watch off [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► the charger and then the whole back just [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► stuck to the magnetic charger [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► yea even mention that so after my wife [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► was away literally like two days after [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► you you you talked about that she was [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► complaining of the same thing about the [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► tractor working so he took the charger [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► and I was like did it like a bunch of [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► times attaching and detaching think it [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► would pop off it hasn't popped up yet [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► but the same situation she's wanted [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► pretty much daily since she got at the [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► same time . and as the exact same same [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► model has exactly . so yeah I and I i'm [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► looking forward to getting a look at the [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► larger internets apparently so it seems [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► like a common fair i tweeted a picture [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► of it and and cracked a very snarky joke [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► because I happen to follow a couple of [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► other watch things on Twitter and I [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► forget who was what was the company pet [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► Patek had came out with a new watch and [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► I right tweeted the same day I should i [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► treated a link to this new protect watch [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► you know which is like a [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► twenty-five-thousand-dollar dive watch [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► and I said I wonder what type of glue [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► attackies to seal the case and I of [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► course and i have to wait too many [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► wonderful way to do a 23 I can't tweet [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► something like that without having two [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► or three four people think I'm being [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► serious and then they were like protect [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► doesn't glue their watches together John [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► and it was i guess i know i don't--it's [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► you feel bad and kind of make fun of [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► them because they're trying to help but [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► it is the earnestness and their replies [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► that it it i get that sometimes as well [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► so but the other the more interesting [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► things I got a whole bunch of replies [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► from people who are like same thing [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► happen to me same thing happened to me [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► seems like it's more common with the [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► stainless steel once at least [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► anecdotally based on Twitter followers [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► who tweeted me about it it because it [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► wasn't only steel ones but it was [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► primarily steel ones and knowing that [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► the aluminum sport models selling [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► greater quantity you would think that if [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► it was as likely to happen to any other [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► watch it would be mostly the sport [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► models so i think that the problem is [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► more typical with the steel I don't know [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► if it's because they went through a [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► different you know production line and [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► that was the production line where the [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► problem was I don't know if it was that [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► the gluttony maybe they use the same [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► glue but that glue and he's better to [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► aluminum than to steal could just be [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► honestly if you think about it could [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► just be Apple has you know what 10 years [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► of expertise working with aluminum and [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► stainless steel is relatively new to [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► their now that's brought that's probably [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► the that's probably the explanation [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► right there [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► but anyway long story short a whole [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► bunch of people wrote and said it [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► happened to them they took it to the [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► apple store and it was you know you [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► gotta wait you can't they don't just [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► give you a replacement on the spot but [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► they take the watch away and and give [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► you a replacement even if it's out of [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► warranty and Amy's was out of warranty [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► because we have never bought apple care [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► for any apple products since 1991 so I [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► did I took it to the apple store i did [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► not seem to be recognized which I'm [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► always worried about cuz i want to [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► report on this as I you know like what [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► if I'm just a normal apple customer what [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► are you what happens when you take your [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► Apple watch it after it falls apart on [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► the charger i'm pretty sure that the [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► people that the genius guy i dealt with [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► did not you know you didn't recognize me [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► and you know as soon as I describe the [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► problem he was you know started typing [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► it into his his ipod their [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► accommodations you know before do well [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► he didn't he heard it didn't seem at [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► first and any looked it up and had to [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► type in the serial number and then when [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► he described the problem he said oh good [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► you know even though this is our [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► warranty that I can cover this you know [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► and it seemed new to him and then he was [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► and he laughed and said the first [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► question I'd already told him how it you [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► know how it was discovered that it [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► wasn't dropped during just pulling it [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► off the charger and he said though he [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► said the first question is did the [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► customer discovered the problem-- [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► removing the watch from the charger [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► yeah so it did my own thing the end is [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► known system [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► yeah it's so known that there's a chain [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► through the you know how did this happen [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► that begins with did it happen [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► pulling the watch off the charger so you [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► know as we record the watch is in that [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► 325 day will tell you when it comes back [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► . i'm curious if they're gonna if they [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► replace it if they're going to replace [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► it with a series 0 or a serious one [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► yeah that's a good question the the yeah [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► that was the trouble with the app i [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► kinda want because I'm never on the [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► swimming thing that now so i kinda want [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► to get the the well first off great [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► Hockenberry is a apparently a popular [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► guess that's what he's written about [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► that he's been using the original apple [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► watch for swimming [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► ever since he got it and let me the [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► ocean where it's it's probably i would [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► imagine the corrosiveness is is more and [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► more problem but the problem is that the [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► workout app does not [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► you can't get the swimming on the rig on [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► the original watch even with right [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► updated OS like apples just not included [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► so you have to get a new watch the [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► problem is I i mean i i've kind of [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► stopped wearing the app Washington [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► day-to-day things like for me the I've [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► trained my notifications so much that [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► when i get a notification I almost [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► always wanted you deal with it on the [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► phone anyway I'm just super aggressive [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► about not getting hardly any [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► notifications [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► but and the delay and looking at the [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► time was just the that was kind of it I [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► got benefits i I've back to a regular [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► watch most of the time but i would like [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► to i'd still like to track you know the [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► the actual exercising so I want to get a [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► maybe i'm considering a new one [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► the problem is I personally just don't [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► find the aluminum ones good looking at [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► all like to me the stainless steel still [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► looks so much better and actually the [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► one that was really great is the is the [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► white one [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► so the problem is like I can't really [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► justify getting the the new edition 12 [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► years while are right it might have just [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► using it for four workouts like well [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► maybe I'll start wearing a day today I'm [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► like well now we are at I don't know so [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► i i'm i'm stuck in paralysis [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► uh right now but we'll see i'll probably [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► i'll probably one of this work one side [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► I think it would be I should anyway just [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► to see what it's like how its improved [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► relative to the current one [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► yeah anyway that was my story about the [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► Apple watch so I wonder I I i will I I [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► look for [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► I don't look for it but it sounds like I [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► will be corroborating it soon [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► exactly symptoms that that that you had [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► you want to talk about I don't want to [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► spend a long time on it but this this [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► story of dash the developer of the dash [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► app anybody has been reading daring [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► fireball of the last week with no it [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► long story short i do you want to [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► summarize it its it's such a weird story [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► yeah i think that i think that the i [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► personally don't want to spend on [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► Tidewater in part because it's still [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► kind of unclear there's a new story that [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► there is a Richie wrote this morning [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► that I haven't fully read that [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► apparently is more details are coming [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► out and as well as things like it needs [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► there's gonna be inherent speculation [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► here i think the only the only comment I [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► would have liked it sounds like this guy [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► made some mistakes and probably you know [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► what's the saying like that the cover-up [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► is always worse than the crime right and [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► like wasn't fully transparent about [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► about his situation and so it's easy to [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► look at it and putting balance and say [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► well apple gave him a chance and with [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► into the stuff and he did these bad [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► things [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► any kind of way the situation is one [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► against the other the only I guess the [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► only push back i would have to that is [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► we're dealing on one side is the biggest [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► corporation in the world where this [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► particular developer and app doesn't [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► make any difference to their bottom line [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► and this other guy where like that this [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► is his life it is it's his job and that [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► changes sort of the the moral calculus [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► for lack of a better term like it sounds [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► like this guy definitely screwed up and [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► he kind of covers his tracks and and you [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► could be a very moralistic and [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► legalistic about and say like sorry you [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► screwed up like apples justified here [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► and that's not wrong but i think it's [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► it's it it's on apple and you have a [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► situation with google with like YouTube [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► accounts being suspended or adsense like [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► that money disappearing like this happen [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► again and again where the balance of [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► power and the balance of injury is so [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► out of whack that I think it behooves [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► the sort of big players to to have more [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► grace and more understanding and end it [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► hopefully that's the way it's gonna work [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► out but i had i think that that's the [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► main point make this isn't like a [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► one-to-one like who's right and who's [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► wrong you have to consider like that [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► where the consequences of these actions [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► and you know hopefully it's going to [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► work out in the end for this guy me [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► selling and out for developers so him [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► not being in the Indian Mac App Store [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► particular it will you will probably be [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► okay arm but any out that this might [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► have a big picture sort of observation [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► about the whole thing [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► yeah it's the developers name is bugged [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► out pronounce it closely close enough [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► he's from Romania and bogdan popescu [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► he's still I think is fairly young and [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► it was confusing at first because we're [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► more or less the little story is that [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► there were two developer accounts tide [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► they were related to the same bank [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► accounts and credit card and the one [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► account was full of smokes leeches easy [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► apps and the other account only had the [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► dash apps and dash is a an API browser [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► and snippet browsers and snippets [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► meaning you can enter your own little [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► snippets attacks like [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► frequent like if you do tech support or [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► something like that you have a bunch of [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► frequently used responses you can invoke [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► dash type a couple of letters to get the [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► saved snippet you want and boom there it [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► is pasted into your email and it's a [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► really great app i have it i don't do [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► enough programming anymore that it's [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► really been useful but i can see that [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► it's super super useful i know that you [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► know it people use it even instead like [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► mac developers use it instead of xcode [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► four document browsing it's so good it's [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► you know and you know for people who are [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► doing things that are not xcode like PHP [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► or pearl or something like that it can [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► be way better than the document browse [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► be way better than the document browse [TS]