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169: ‘A Murder of Eeros’, With Special Guest Matthew Panzarino

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► alright we gotta move is that there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02 ◼   ► emergency scheduled episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04 ◼   ► talkshow Matthew panda Reno's be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► enough to shuffle the schedule recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► on wednesday night we got a baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► game coming up big important wild-card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13 ◼   ► game with that the Giants and the Mets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► I've got travel plans this weekend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/15">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► have been rescheduled because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/19">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► apparently a hurricane is coming towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► the United States and so we can either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/23">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► record a short episode right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26 ◼   ► short for the talk show or a probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/26">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► know episode until next week so anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31 ◼   ► who looks at the time on this and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► wow that's too short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/34">TS</a>]

00:00:35 ◼   ► well it's better than nothing and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► those of you who've been begging for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► shorter episodes of the show here you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/39">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► to gift just for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42 ◼   ► you're welcome thank the wild-card yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► race ya i'm not a giants fan but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► family is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► yeah you gotta watch yep and the west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► coast team you know it's the hometown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53 ◼   ► team so you gonna watch anyway I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► people this i'm sure you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► because I also know your uniform nerd i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► tell people this and it blows people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03 ◼   ► minds even baseball fans that the Mets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► the the brooklyn dodgers in the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/65">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► Giants left New York within like a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► of each other and it was like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► know 99 or 60 and it left New York which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/72">TS</a>]

00:01:16 ◼   ► used to have two nationally teams with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► no national league teams and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► created the Mets to fill the void left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► behind by both teams and because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► two teams the Mets colors are Dodger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/84">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► blue and giant orange and I tell people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► this and they're they're like no they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► not and then they go look at the Met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► uniforms and they're like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► actually weird and I'm like I and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► you think it's a little weird don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/98">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► think it's a little weird that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40 ◼   ► colors don't really go that well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► yeah that was the crime of expediency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/102">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► there was no there's no careful designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► behind that one I don't think and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► you know the other color for the Dodgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► are the giants at least is black which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► doesn't really you can't really mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► with anything so it's really the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► know as long as you're going to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► this idea which was a sketchy idea i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► think in the first place but there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► go there remind you and this is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► like not the same colors but it reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10 ◼   ► me of the mellow yellow car in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► days of thunder because those colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► just so awful but it's just like reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► me of a of a color scheme that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► out of that scar like you know over like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► a late late nineties NASCAR car you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► they're like they're more sedate these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/147">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► yeah who do you like in a game tonight I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► think that you know I think the gentle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► pull it out they tend to they tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► somehow by hook or crook they tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► like will react better under pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► and come through and you know I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► count Bumgarner out nobody's a just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► amazing picture and he said he's a beast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► so syndergaard my mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► syndergaard for pitching for the Mets is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► one of the best pitchers in baseball you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► can't go wrong with the Mets have got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► like their chances but I think right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► given the last 34 years of baseball in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► big game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/177">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► I don't think anybody is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► bunkar I mean the record you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► yeah it's crazy i mean the the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► series their last world series when was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► just insane you know when ya know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► it is called me back in i'll do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► it was as close to 12 years ago was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► about as close as you can get to us to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► single person one man winning the World [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► Series first team to visit it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► thats you know there's no other way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► I i really hope the giants lose at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26 ◼   ► point though because i had if they win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► the goddamn world series again and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► does every other year they what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► would have wanted and yeah every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► year 12 12 10 10 10 12 14 16 yes Aria 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/214">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► 12 14 16 right and then you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► gonna finish last . places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► yeah exactly they're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► insufferable to you know like all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► fans of being insufferable I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► locate iluv the Warriors you know i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► steph curry and I wish they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► won but I'm almost kind of glad I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58 ◼   ► because if they wanted the Giants one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00 ◼   ► the same year would just be impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► I just be impossible and they did take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05 ◼   ► it to inseparable levels because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► was a story Africans who published it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► might have been the business week but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► know someone even sports publication but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► somebody out of peace on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► Warriors while there are still months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► away from the playoffs about how Silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► Valley geniuses have had one you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► beaten the NBA and its own game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► created an unbeatable team and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► a take it easy guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► yeah that was so that was a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► remarkable piece of PR placement I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/272">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► but I was pretty staggered by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► that one thing and I you know you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► Yankees fan too i think one thing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/281">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► youngest fans can agree on is that we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► not like insufferable fans blow right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/284">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► championships right because we're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► humble and fall to the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► exactly i heard calling card printer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55 ◼   ► I who else you like in the baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/295">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► playoffs I i gotta say i'm gonna go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► the obvious answers and it really pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► pick first if you don't mind I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03 ◼   ► scare ya Cubs and I'm i really hate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► say the following two words Red Sox Red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/306">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► Sox but then I hope the Cubs beat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► red sox like that would assume you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► be delicious right yeah yeah that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/315">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► be I mean the Cubs you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► I don't know I mean I think the Red Sox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► is probably my number one pick and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► would really detest that the Dodgers won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► but they've been playing so incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► well aside from these last three games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33 ◼   ► which the Giants destroyed them yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/333">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► yeah I mean I think I think we could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► the one of those i think that when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► watch them because i was watching to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► the vin scully telecasts and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► looked to me like the Dodgers I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► they were still fighting for for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► know home field and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► there did wasn't like the games didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► matter but they had already once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► blocked up that they were gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► you know the middle still working to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► catch the Cubs so they weren't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59 ◼   ► get to play the wild-card team and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► feel like I field wasn't enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► really fire them up they played flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► mmm yeah i think so I mean it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► kind of you know bittersweet to I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► you have been Scully coming in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► doing Collin those games last games in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► San Francisco and so it was so cool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► see and it was just like a man you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► when one first win one for VIN but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► well and they got it on the the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23 ◼   ► dodger game you know I mean like yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► mean last home game for the Dodgers so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► light home game for the Dodgers one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► the dramatic walk-off home run that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► Scully got the call yeah that's true so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► I feel like he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► yeah it is parking okay yeah they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36 ◼   ► that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/396">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► anyway as we speak literally with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► start of this podcast was the the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► holdup was big breaking news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► puh by you yeah uh yeah so Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/406">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► acquired live which is the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► created by founded by dad Klaus madam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/413">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► chair and Chris Brigham who all worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► on Cirie which was acquired by apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► 2010 so they create the left in 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► well over the years several of them left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► but dog left in 2012 founded a div which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/428">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► is a next gen AI and then worked on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► for several years and has just sold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► to samsung which is i think is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/439">TS</a>]

00:07:25 ◼   ► it they were either i hate to say i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► not going to say that they were built to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► be sold but i think it is then we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► get to Google's announcements we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► get to Google's answers later in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► show but i feel like these sort of AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/455">TS</a>]

00:07:39 ◼   ► systems assistance systems are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/459">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► fundamentally have to be built into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► you can't just be a nap right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49 ◼   ► right as a standalone company that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► what viv would have been is you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► have to launch the vApp and then do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► stuff and you could there's some cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► you know that's how series started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► but the everybody is moving in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► direction of integrating these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► into a system level so that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► address that you know yet whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► so you can say that the device hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► dingus you know I'm you know to go get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► me an uber whatever that the baby or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/490">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► just have access to a button like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► way that the new google assistant works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► with a long press on the home button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► the same way that zero works at cetera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21 ◼   ► right yeah i mean i think with viv I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/501">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► talk to . quite a bit you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► interviewed him in May at our conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/507">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► in New York and I had talked to him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► little bit previously obviously in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► run-up and you kind of get the feel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► what to talk about onstage and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► they're their philosophy nice set of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► onstage to it's not like private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► information anything but he said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► they want to you know they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► launch the app as a sort of proof of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► right but their vision was the vivid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► button in every app next to every search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► bar etc etc and I you know at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► and I told him this thing that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► incredibly optimistic right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► everybody's sort of in introducing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► own systems of this type specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► because they don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/549">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► disintermediated by you know somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► else's system right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► apple in you know introduce serie for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► variety of reasons but one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► reasons is it you go to Google less with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► it right you go to you go out to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► competitors product less with it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► with Apple it's a little different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► equation you know you're slicing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► pie little different is it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► necessarily make its money when you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► google search and click on that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► but it it does compete with device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► makers like Samsung and other folks who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► are trying to you know carve out a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► of people's life you know and lock them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/583">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► into a system that says look I know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/587">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► much about you I i know all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/591">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► things that I need to know to deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► you well and to do the things you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► me to do with efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00 ◼   ► why would you ever leave why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► ever go you know why did why do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► to do that and I think that that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06 ◼   ► insurmountable or will be insurmountable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► very very soon as far as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► customer Locke in and like a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► entrance into the system so honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► this is a good time for them I mean he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► said this is about ubiquity because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► Samsung has you know 500 million devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► or whatever which you know that's a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► statement like if you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► ubiquitous what are you do who you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► go to settle for companies and three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► them have their own already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► you know I mean yep and yeah I I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/629">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► it was destined to be acquired by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► somebody whether would be Apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► Google or Amazon or Microsoft who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► buy them to integrate with what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► already working on or someone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► Samsung who is the biggest example i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► think of who just had this glaring hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► in their own you know technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► they own that that that plays this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► so right kind of I don't know any I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/654">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► never met the guy so but just from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► armchair quarterback position across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► continent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► I think this is huge news but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► the least bit surprised that Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► yeah no not at all i mean i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► it's definitely if you were to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13 ◼   ► asked me a couple of days ago you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► which which company would buy this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► know that like i said there's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► handful and I was telling somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► and they're like oh I don't know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► know if they're so far along that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► couldn't have been helped by viv you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27 ◼   ► know by this team and I think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► true that Amazon or Google or Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► could definitely have have utilized this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► technology and expertise right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► they've got an insane team but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/695">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► same time they've already sort of made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41 ◼   ► their bed and now they have to build on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► top of that bed and this isn't the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► to be taking that bed and throwing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► out and purchasing a new bed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► and i think that that is its simplistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51 ◼   ► analogy but AI systems like this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54 ◼   ► need to be trained and integrated are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56 ◼   ► not like plug-and-play you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► don't just kind of x 1 and then instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► hey I as a as a concept is an additive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/721">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► concept so you can sort of pour into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► other buckets and it will improve them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► but if you're looking for like a cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► device cross-platform solution that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/731">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► of you know is your brain across all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/735">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► this that recognizes people and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► context and serves them that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► something you just buy and go click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► click I mean theory took a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► integrate and it's still like far from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29 ◼   ► as sophisticated as it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► or or sophisticated as it is but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► has not yet you know unlocked those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/756">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► yeah yeah and you know i just posted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► just link to the article like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► while recording but I link to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► article at TechCrunch and my quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► comment is just does anyone disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► that AI system technology is table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► stakes for the next decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53 ◼   ► yeah i don't know i think this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► those rare things where everybody agrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► I don't know anybody who disagrees with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59 ◼   ► this you know you how you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► person's like no that's stupid nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► should have one of those right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► know it's just another way for samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► to sort of assert their independence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/787">TS</a>]

00:13:08 ◼   ► from google you know it right terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► being at did it is not a good position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/791">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► to be in for them to be big jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► weekly beholden to google to provide all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► of that intelligence not at all not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21 ◼   ► all it doesn't make any sense for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► and it hasn't made sense for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► which is why they've been experimenting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► with these and other stuff but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► Samsung they have two options they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► sort of try to create a mobile operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► system right like trying to like do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35 ◼   ► nandroid right . android and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37 ◼   ► turn and burn and make a mess of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► and in the go as fast as they can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► then have to clean it all up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► honestly enjoyed what I we joked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46 ◼   ► this portion analogy with the whole you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► know the iphone like cave just refine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► this portion thing but there's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► another saying about Porsha which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► that they made a mistake 50 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55 ◼   ► and I spent 50 years fixing it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► that mistake was the teammate on rear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► wheel we will drive car with an engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► in the back right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► it's like now that doesn't the physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06 ◼   ► anybody check the physics and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/846">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► know they're famously 911 famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► squarely and hard to drive and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► gotten better they've added traction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► control and new suspension and steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► assistance and you know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► differentials and blah blah blah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► on but it took 50 years to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► window space where you can actually take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► a 911 out and drive it to the store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► back and not be afraid you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29 ◼   ► end your life you know and like if if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/869">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► rains for like three seconds it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► done you might as well pull over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► no but i think that that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/876">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► interesting analogy when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► Android because android was created out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► of necessity you know what sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► created to be one thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► purchased and then modified for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48 ◼   ► uses and has been essentially fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/888">TS</a>]

00:14:51 ◼   ► right over the intervening years it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► patches have been placed on holes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/893">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► things have been us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► d soldered and taken out and Bolton new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► things have been bolted on and it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► the shape where you could conceivably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/903">TS</a>]

00:15:04 ◼   ► say oh you know I could pick up an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06 ◼   ► android phone and use it for pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► nine-tenths of my tasks or an iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10 ◼   ► those differentiating factors are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12 ◼   ► like the personalization and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/912">TS</a>]

00:15:13 ◼   ► customization and an artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► artificial intelligence is a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17 ◼   ► that like does my phone recognize me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► everything I have to know I need to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► so if you look at samsung you go should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► sam some pull an Android and build an OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► from scratch or should it start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► core differentiating factor which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► the eye and then sort of work outwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► from there because it has android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► doesn't really need to build something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/936">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► Google's like open you know you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► all this almost all the stuff except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41 ◼   ► the google stuff right and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► samsung going well why don't we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► build their own quote unquote google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48 ◼   ► stuff right the stars that allows people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► to go all i can pick up my samsung and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► just ask it something i can talk to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► fridge and ask it something right which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/954">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► is going to be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► this actually works out almost seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► like we planned this but it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► a pretty good segue into Google's event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► which was yesterday as we record earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► this week that made by google event but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► first since we're moving right along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► I'm going to thank our first sponsor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► our good friends at fracture fracture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► the company you know them they print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► your photos directly on glass I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/983">TS</a>]

00:16:26 ◼   ► there's probably a lot of people up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/986">TS</a>]

00:16:30 ◼   ► probably think well glass is heavy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► this is like a heavy thing to put on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/993">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► one of the things I don't mention it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► stealing this from market by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► markup mention this point on on ATP but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► I'm stealing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► one of the things that makes up these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42 ◼   ► fracture prints so remarkable is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► lightweight they are they they come they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► self hanging they call it but everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► you need to hang it on the wall is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► the back of this piece of glass so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► send them your photos they print them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► directly on the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► it looks like it's right on the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:56 ◼   ► of the glass edge-to-edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► corner-to-corner no frame necessary it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:02 ◼   ► just the glass and then there's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► the thing you need to hang it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► wall you just you know that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08 ◼   ► come to your house and put the nail in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► the wall but other than that it's it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► hangs itself super-lightweight almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► like lighter than you think it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► which makes you feel really good hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► on the wall because you don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► hey this is like a big heavy piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► glass it's gonna break and put broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► glass all over the floor whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► quality is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► I mean these this is how I print photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► I don't you know I can't imagine why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► would print them some other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► great quality all sorts of great sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► great price they are made in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► carbon-neutral factory right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► beautiful gainesville floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► and here's the thing they're up in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► there there sponsorships recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► September our in October because these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► are fantastic gifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► I'd really are it'sit's both they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57 ◼   ► the people like you're you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59 ◼   ► given the grandparents given to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01 ◼   ► family members stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03 ◼   ► if you've got kids get some printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► pictures printed of them giving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► everybody for Christmas and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► other holidays great gift for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► reasons it makes the people begin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► really happy trust me they love them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► it's so easy it is so easy for you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► terms of hey let's knock off of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21 ◼   ► all the parents and grandparents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► stuff like that knock off the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24 ◼   ► holiday gift items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► here's the reason I want you to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► about doing that now or soon because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► these things are all made by hand right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► here in florida i'm not in Florida but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► right here in the US they get backed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37 ◼   ► for the holidays is what I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► get that so you can't wait to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► beginning of december and then still get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42 ◼   ► it by the end of $MONTH december for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► for the holidays so think about it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► you'llyou'll knock off some on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► shopping list way early you'll be ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► of the game where do you go you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► fracture me.com that's our website / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► podcast that's the thing to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► that they're using the same URL for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► their podcast at and then they'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02 ◼   ► ask you one question survey of where did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► you hear about it from and that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► telling you heard from the talk show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► anyway you go to that URL you'll get ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► percent off your first order so the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► pictures you buy on that first order the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► more you'll save so go to fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► me.com / podcast by thanks to them so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► said segue going to that made by google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22 ◼   ► event so while you know why should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25 ◼   ► samsung be concerned about owning her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► own technology for the stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► because to me this the week's made by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:31 ◼   ► google event which overall I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► I was pretty impressed by but the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► is very obvious that Google is now going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38 ◼   ► to favor their own hardware over those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► of partners that the full experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► that they're planning that based feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► like they can drive through AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► technology they are they clearly they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► said so it's not even implicit explicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► in interviews this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► but they see that the energy integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► hardware and software is the way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► imagine that you have surprised no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► company has ever come up with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06 ◼   ► before you know it's it's remarkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► that Google was first to this this red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► realization you know I'm not gonna I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:18 ◼   ► not gonna drag him too hard right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► because it does they made a bed right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► and they had to lie in it and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► bad was that they had to be partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► friendly and you know this this open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► strategy whatever you want to call it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► really laid out a track for them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► they had to follow and they followed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► for as long as it makes sense and now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► doesn't make sense anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► the google is not a full the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► are not fools but the people that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► have known or should have realized the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► partners you know that the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► that are like oh google will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► betray us and right now they they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► always have our interests at heart etc I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► do think google meant it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► part i don't think it's any coincidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► at all i've mentioned this briefly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► short tfpc other day um pointing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► that you know how like the 2010 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► particular was the year where was where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► Vic and otra was on to giving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11 ◼   ► keynote at i/o and really dug into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► anti iphone anti-apple anti Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► sort of a sentiment you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► literally said something to the effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► of one man one phone one company one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► carrier is you know where we're here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► stop that from dominating mobile for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► coming decades and really meant i truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► think I think vent conductor meant it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► think Andy Rubin was very much along you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► know I'll on that that it was a strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► of Android to be microsoft to the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► industry you know 222 not you know only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► do like reference hardware and just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► the software and I really think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► they they thought that they could that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► they that Android would lead to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► windows like monopoly over mobile right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► and they were still they still thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► that in 2012 right i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► Galaxy Nexus the nexus 7 tablet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► that streaming device that nexus 6 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► orb forget what they called it exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► but it was like the ball thing and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:25 ◼   ► was that that was that particular Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► i/o when they introduce all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► and and there was like some additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► glass stuff the Explorer edition of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► glasses when that was launched and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► everything and yet that particular one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37 ◼   ► they also made a lot of you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► kind of in you know whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► call it but uh predictive or or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► hypothetical but not really hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► statements about software and hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51 ◼   ► integration and how they could only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► certain things that they took control of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► bolton and they would show their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► partners how you no good it could be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► they would follow suit and this is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► they were dealing they were could trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► to roll out several small software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03 ◼   ► updates on to limit fragmentation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:07 ◼   ► all that stuff and then 2012 wait I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09 ◼   ► remember tweeting this because my I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► remember the first reply was do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► realize the stupidity of that tweet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► it whatever the verb it was really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► because nobody replied to it at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► everybody liked favorited but nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► replied in the negative took a year i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► proposed to the jun 27 but without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► tweet right well the tweet was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► hardware and software hardware plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32 ◼   ► software epiphany that Apple 1979 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► microsoft 2012 because the surface thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► and then Google 2012 in other words like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► they're they're saying like all maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► the right way to do this is to do both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► right and to say maybe there are maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► there you could do the other but for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► was being a bit facetious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► obviously that hardware software join [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► made less sense for a variety of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► that have been gone over at nauseam by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► you and other folks in all of us over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03 ◼   ► the years making less sense on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► desktop than it does on mobile right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► mobiles lack of tolerance for weirdness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► and it's it's intimate nature and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► of other things it just apple had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► right formula for it which is why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► iPhone was such a hit right off the bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17 ◼   ► and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► so Microsoft and Google in 2012 kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► shifted their gears and were like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► maybe we should take full control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► these mobile experiences because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28 ◼   ► are not getting them right and letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► our partners diddle around with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► hardware is not going to you know or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► software microsoft case is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► to make a device that's holistically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► like feels great and and engenders love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► and loyalty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► do you think it took them that long ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► to get to the point where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► these pixels dude or do you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► there were further epiphanies along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► line I don't know i mean it that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► that's the joke i was making about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► know Google convincing people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► they're launching their own phones for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► the third time for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► because they had you know the google the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► android the one yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► yeah and then they had Nexus phones of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► course and then this is sort of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15 ◼   ► third time they've done this but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► seems for better for worse they see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► serious about it now and I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► serious about it now because they're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► a place where their their competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► they're real competitors are our four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30 ◼   ► real partners partner / competitors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► very seriously thinking about divorcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► themselves right and going like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► hey what do we do when Google is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41 ◼   ► answer or how do we fork you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43 ◼   ► android in a way that's to our advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► like you know amazon attempted to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► i think that they're basically they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► at it and say well eventually it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► to happen and somebody's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► good at it so why don't we just do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► why don't we be the person that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► at it and that's why we're getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► third attempt yeah um as for the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:05 ◼   ► themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► I I almost I i I'm one who is largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► offended by ripoffs and I you know over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► the years have you argued with people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► you know I was certainly of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► belief that Samsung ripped off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► iphone i know in those phones that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:28 ◼   ► the the subject of the big case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31 ◼   ► went to court I largely agree with apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► on the merit of most of their arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► there and and the counter-argument was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► always from people who either i I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► think that they're mentally made-up not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► to snow to see or notice these things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► the way that like for exist the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► example I can think of is the way some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► people just don't notice the differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► between fonts and so yes they can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► the difference between like a seraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► renaissance-era because you can say see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► these little feet at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► that's the Saracen oh yeah I see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► but they don't see the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► between x and Garamond and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► see the different even between future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► and helvetica let alone the subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10 ◼   ► differences between say helvetica and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12 ◼   ► ariel which is an actual ripoff . it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15 ◼   ► ripoff of oh yeah so I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► there's people who just don't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► differences like that in industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► design and they great arguments like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► well there's only so many ways to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► round corner round rectangular piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► glass and it's like uh no that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► yeah yeah I think it's like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► tell somebody who's colorblind like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► is lavender and they're all know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► not your old ok nevermind because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► just don't we'll never see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► these these pixel phones are so clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46 ◼   ► it following the design of the iphone 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► that it i mean it's to a degree that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► don't think i've ever seen in any phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► any post iphone competing phone ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► these are the biggest rip-offs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► iphone industrial design ever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► there's it's almost so absurd that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► almost salute them for it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► there's a certain integrity to it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► they're just explicitly saying yes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► making phones that make it look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► iphones they're not I don't even think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► they're quite denying I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► even talking about in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► articles that they've made a few choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► to may not make them look like iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► but at nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► there's so much like iphones in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► the the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► shape just the basic shape that it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:32 ◼   ► don't see how anybody could look at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► and first thought not be wow those look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► exactly like the iphone 6 right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► almost an integrity to the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39 ◼   ► they are if we're going to copy Apple we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41 ◼   ► might as well copy Apple yeah yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► like you know recently Instagram copied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► snapchat with their stories thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► yes and and they basically said yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► check came with a really good idea so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► this is our spin on it which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54 ◼   ► like you know Facebook is copied a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► of features from snapchat over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► or tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► and most of the standalone maps have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► failed at instagrams you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► though it's under the facebook umbrella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► it's led by you know people who will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► make decisions and in this case they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► either made the decision or convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► somebody above them to allow them to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11 ◼   ► look we thought it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► so this is our spin on it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► that's the kind of us there's a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► scenario going on here where they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► not explicitly say because google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:20 ◼   ► probably has a little bit more you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► layers of interruption between somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► just coming out and saying that and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► but I do think that it there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► element of the design is great we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► just going to use that because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► design is not really all that important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► to us in terms of in terms of appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39 ◼   ► right i'm using design here in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► terminology of you know physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► industrial design physical appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► not the holistic design capital D where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► it's the way it works in looks but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► think they said you don't hate there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► certain choices we need to make but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55 ◼   ► of those choices is not to be wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► different you know too wily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► differentiate the look and feel and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01 ◼   ► the way I feel about it is the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► the phone is perfect because it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06 ◼   ► pixel which obviously to anybody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► know in the computer world or honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► most people probably know at least what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► a pixel is because 9 times out of 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► when you tell anybody about like a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18 ◼   ► or something all how many pixels that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► have right they don't really know or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► pixels a camera have they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► don't really know what it means and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► that translates you know from a capture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► element to an actual pixel on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28 ◼   ► but pixels like a really broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31 ◼   ► recognizable term so a1 you know number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► one broad recognizable term so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► great right that's a good choice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► second is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► emphasizes what's on the screen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43 ◼   ► the software and to google the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► is a vehicle for their AI and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► other software they want to launch on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► and to apple the hardware is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► and then people build to suit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► hardware like that's the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► that's their philosophy their entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► developer ecosystem builds to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► precise specifications available on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► devices and that's what leads to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04 ◼   ► know theoretically great experiences but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► google is basically like hey we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:10 ◼   ► provide all the experiences people need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► or that we really care about and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► pixel calling it pixel Telegraph's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► it says it's about what's on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18 ◼   ► it's not about what's around the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► you know don't worry too much about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► we're gonna give you a design that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► that feels familiar that you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► oh I could that's a phone I could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► that thing you know and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► they're good they're golden the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► it is on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► here's my biggest question that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► you know it's a win for them honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► and it's it doesn't have a camera bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► and that was one of the first things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► noticed one of the things that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► copied though is they put the camera in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► the same corner that the iphone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► always put the camera and that right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► one of the weird things that I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52 ◼   ► wondered about that here we are all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► know nine years with ten generations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► the iphone and every single one has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► the camera in the top left as you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► at the back face of the camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► almost all competing phones put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► camera in the it in the center more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► less where the apple logo goes on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11 ◼   ► iphone and where the pixels put their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► finger in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► fingerprint sensor most other phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► that put the cameras there whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► there's a bump whether there's no bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► I've never quite understood why since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► you know just it not even making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► argument of why the iphones placement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► better but given that the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► oh it is for sure i think so too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► i think it it keep its more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32 ◼   ► keep your finger out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► professionals people are right-handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► and you bring up the phone and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► people are going to take in horizontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► and so you bring up the phone and turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► it horizontal and you tap it with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► right thumb and your your other fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► in front of it holding it stable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► then that way you don't finger in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► of the lens it makes total damn sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► it's like the right place to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► camera and Android phones that's all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► always have my damn finger in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► the camera after me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► but I do too and I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► because I have a I have a finger in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► hole handheld habits that that coincide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► with it or not I'm looking at my Moto X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:04 ◼   ► right here and I just remember I've I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► often said hold it up and my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► right over the camera yeah Nexus 5 is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► the center so they sort of like that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13 ◼   ► will be agnostic you left hand right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► hand here here was my first question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► though as soon as I saw the design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► this is before you know before the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► because it leaked and I was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► there's no camera bump so how are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► not having a camera pump is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► they made the phone thicker there is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► did that they've got the somehow they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► got superior optics so the iphone 7 is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:37 ◼   ► have it right here in front of me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39 ◼   ► 7.1 millimeters thick and the seven plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► seven point three millimeters thick so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► two-tenths of one millimeter thicker for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► the plus than the regular seven and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► there's a big bump the pixels dimensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► on Google's tech specs page are for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► thickness i don't understand what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► means 7.3 and then a tilde 8.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► millimeters and that's for both phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► the pixels and pixel x 8.5 at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► because there's a plate of glass or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► whatever that is and I top i think so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► i i don't know i haven't seen anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► answers so i think that they're slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► wedge shaped sort of like a you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► not quite to the to the narrow to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23 ◼   ► blade like a macbook air but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► they're they're not when you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► in profile from the side it doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► like the bottom is as thick as the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► it's thinner at the bottom than it is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► the top so it's sort of like the slope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► the whole phone up to where it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► a bump right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► yes that I i totally agree i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► that's what happened there I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► didn't go to the event so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► handle myself but I did ask somebody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► I believe that's what they told me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► is that sort of like piece of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► material at the time I hesitates just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► say glasses i want to be wrong i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58 ◼   ► think that it's just but it doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► jump in thickness i think it is a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► a gentle wedge shape but a and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► product photography family though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► their product photography seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► purposefully obscure that it it's my eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► i looked at product photography for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► awhile before i even thought to suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► mhm and yeah I'm i actually win our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► back-end here because are our guys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► at the event we generally when we shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► pictures we dump them all into the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► end so people that are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► utilizing there are you writing articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► about them can pull them up and so let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► me I'm pulling one up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► yeah and he's holding it at an angle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► you can clearly see that part of the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► is raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► now whether it's like a wedge from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► know what two-thirds up the phone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► starts out at like you know eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► millimeters and then it goes up to 8.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► at the very top i don't know but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► definitely like it raised at the top the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► top third of the phone is raised off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► the rest of the phone so I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► hiding a lot of the bump in there and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► you look at the camera it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► because they there's actually a slur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► sort of slight indention it slopes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► words at the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► yeah so i don't know i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► combination of things i think they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► out they figured out a way to make it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► soon as possible and then they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► sloped it up a little bit but yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18 ◼   ► a clever clever way to get rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► bump for sure and I will you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► certainly would allow it to still sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► flat on the table with no wobble so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► have to say it i mean i'm willing to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► that it's a complete win without seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► it myself i mean i think i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► buy one because it hadn't bought android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► phone in a while and it seems like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► would be the one to by adding an upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► from my 5x to you so I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► it's you know I i still hate the bumps i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► like that i like the seven bump better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► i've said this before I like the seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► bump better than the six and success but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► because to me it's more of an honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► bump it's like yeah man we've got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► we've yeah we definitely you see an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► erotic photography like this van has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► camera in here and there were entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► articles two years ago about how Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► product photography hit the bump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► yeah they had profile pictures were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► theory you think you would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08 ◼   ► able to see the bump and you didn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► then there were a few no defenses where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► people were making their own photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► I give you hold it just right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► take a real photo and not show the bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► you know just the exact shooting from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► the opposite side and you know putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► it at the exact right angle and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► just hold up my phone to my eye and hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► it sideways and if I hold it just right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► it looks like it's a perfect profile and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► I don't see the bump but I'm doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► was dishonest whereas now apples product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► photography highlights the bump they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► got like a beautiful reflection off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► you know aluminum right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► reflection is not an accident right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► yeah so you know i'm not willing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► know overall I think not having a bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► you've got to say if it otherwise it fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► you know it doesn't feel too thick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► your hand said trip this could be a win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► for the pixel over the iphone yeah man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► who who wants me nobody wants a bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► that bum probably just drives Johnny in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► scene right all right but it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► you gotta do what you gotta do i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► having an asymmetrical pro overall the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► whole phone being a symmetric would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► drive him nuts too though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's true but like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► still see why it I could I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► wouldn't be no I would almost be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► surprised if Apple didn't consider a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► wedge-shaped designed to accommodate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► you know the necessary thickness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► camera unit and I could see why apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► rejected it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► I remember that wedge shaped design that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► who said that was going to have a ware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► was a josh polski or somebody like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► i think so this is my next just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► something that was gonna be like a wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► so maybe they were considering a wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► at some point right now maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► wasn't totally got pulled out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► maybe that wasn't i would be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► at all but I can also see why they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► rid of you know didn't go that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► sure I'm what else about these funds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► they did move they move with the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► to the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► yeah which is where a lot of Android you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► have had the volume right right yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► mean i like everyone look I like them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► mean i think that they're a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► awkward the mix of materials is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► really my bag you know like the two-tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► thing yeah it's it just seems a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► bit contrived to me and I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► they have antennae lines and huge window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► that could theoretically be transparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31 ◼   ► to dig the hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► but that you know I'm not a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► designer so yeah we like very logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► reasons and all of that stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► right and it like the iphone 4s had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► breaks the antenna was the frame around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► the sides and in their famously there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► were breaks in there for different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► antennas to not be touching each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► but then the back was made out of class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55 ◼   ► and therefore signals kk through i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► quite get why they've got a one-third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► class back and two-thirds aluminum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► antenna lines but I I could see why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► have glass if they wanted to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► antenna signal to get through and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► could see having an antenna lines for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► the reasons that the iphone 6 and 7 have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► antennae lines but i don't see both yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► it'll be curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► it's a very technical design right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► like it screams like this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► technical we have lots of things going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► on and i think that's that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► interesting play and they probably did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:29 ◼   ► it intentionally right because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► this is their high end of the android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► market which is something we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34 ◼   ► talked about yet but pricing why's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► is an expensive phone right this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► like the Nexus 5x hey get one for 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► bucks flat-out you know or whatever one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► sale or with a coupon you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► this your expensive six and fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► dollars to $18 an hour and fifty dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50 ◼   ► phones or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► yeah they're very comfortably price to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► the iphone 7 mm I it's a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► twenty more for the for the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► display who instead of a hundred more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► and they have to storage tiers 32 in 128 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:05 ◼   ► and the 128 i think is that I think are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► both might be exactly the same prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► the same iphones right so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► whatever math Apple was doing wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► just about gouging now i don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► i think the colors are called very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► silver quite black and limited edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► really blue which is already out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► I almost bought the blue-eyed literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► pull it up and I was pre ordering it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► then I decided to just kind of wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► see what the first impressions were and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► no did you order one already now i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► i'm going to buy him too but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► privatized by black I want to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► although I'm curious why blue is limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► edition is it just artificial scarcity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► or is it because we harder to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► finishes are tougher you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► like even that look at the jet-black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59 ◼   ► right it's like you know some does nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► step process that they have to analyze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► it and they have to clearcoat it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► polish it and click on and polish it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► click on policy just takes longer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► would guess they just produced a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► less of them because of that it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► like most of their product photography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:13 ◼   ► is the very silver they skipped gold so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► there's no gold they can accuse them of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► ripping off following apple in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► regard i'm kind of impressed if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► black looks as good as it does on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► aluminum that i'm kind of impressed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► they've already caught up and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30 ◼   ► who knows how much of that expertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► google broad and how much out who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► how much they're leaning on HTC but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► famous right the reason that we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► space gray for a couple years is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► black proved so hard even for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43 ◼   ► whose whose unparalleled expertise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► materials you know couldn't even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► right and here they're coming out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► black out of the out of the box with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52 ◼   ► black anodized aluminum yeah yeah like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55 ◼   ► said I haven't seen in person so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► know how how black black is but it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59 ◼   ► pretty black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► I mean look at you look at the black top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► section and it is lighter than that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► it's not like Gregory like it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► previous iphones were yeah it's a no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► there's some things that look weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► about it to me but it certainly is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► best-looking life our android phone I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► seen it all to my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20 ◼   ► yeah a lot of have too many notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► because they gotta differentiate right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► right here in this crowded market with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► bunch of competitors and you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► sitting on this verizon shelf like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► people walk into the verizon store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► they're like all of it that was cool you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32 ◼   ► know that's that's what they're playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► to that audience and Google's not this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► shot are all send it to this shot seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40 ◼   ► to me to really emphasize I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► is where you can kind of see the wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► amoled display instead of LCD but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:52 ◼   ► about everybody other than apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► gone to AMOLED and there's rumors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► apple is going to go to AMOLED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► eventually sooner than later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00 ◼   ► I don't know it seems to me like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► mammal it still has advantages on blacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► and I think their inherent to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► technology that a black on AMOLED is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► going to be a darker black deeper black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► whatever you want to describe it than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► LCD can never do but it seems to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► both technologies there are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► approaching each other it does it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► you know both are catching up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► strengths and weakness or strength of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► the others and get and getting rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► their weaknesses like the days when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► AMOLED couldn't reproduce color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28 ◼   ► faithfully or I think you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30 ◼   ► over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► yeah i mean i was always the the enamel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35 ◼   ► with a new technology for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► and it was harder to make and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► else but it's starting to become much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► more than a widely adopted i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► ever stake in particular the flickr logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► with witches had the magenta you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48 ◼   ► like you like damage your retina but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► just by looking right right that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► yeah and while they finish the amoled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55 ◼   ► overall is that the colors are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► neutral right and like lcds always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► a sort sort of like a fight against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► blue cast right now and that that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:05 ◼   ► moving to AMOLED sort of fixes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► without having to do software trickery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► on top of it to filter that but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► know i think LCD in plane switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► stuff is it just like was so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► because it you didn't burn in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► there's like you know it's really easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► to to make in pretty decent quality but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► yeah I think everything is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27 ◼   ► AMOLED pretty soon because of the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29 ◼   ► color rendition I think it just comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► down to this scale you know and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► to remember that for Apple to switch its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► they're switching like 70 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► displays in the first quarter so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► it's not surprising to me at all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43 ◼   ► they might be late to that game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► just because that the kid there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► they were going to shift in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50 ◼   ► years when the color reproduction was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► bad and even now if they might want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► they have to wait not just until you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► make one that's up to their qualities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58 ◼   ► for just how good does it look really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► which is ultimately what Apple cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► about is not really what you can measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► in any kind of test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:05 ◼   ► it's just look just look at it with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07 ◼   ► eyes does it look good but they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10 ◼   ► to be able to do it where they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► it an iphone quantities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► let me take a break i want to talk i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► want to talk camera on the pixel right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► but let me take a break and thank our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23 ◼   ► second sponsor and just because it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► like a natural . the show to do so our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► good friends at a glue you guys know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28 ◼   ► igloo they make the internet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► doesn't suck anyone knows work in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► corporate environment knows how painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► intranets can be the contents tail the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► interfaces ugly you can't access it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► your phone you have to do with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► pinching and zooming and nobody uses it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► because i don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45 ◼   ► igloo is an internet intranet you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► actually like because it's designed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► the user is designed to be nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► therefore people use it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► nice and because people use it it stays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► up-to-date it gives you the flexibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► to get your team's work done how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03 ◼   ► want to do it where you want in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05 ◼   ► whatever device you want glue is truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08 ◼   ► building a modern product meant for 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► not for 1997 you can share news organize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► files coordinate calendars manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18 ◼   ► projects to do's all in one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► they've got annotation on documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► they've done a lot of work in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► year or two on the document sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► stuff and everything can be social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► you can have comments if you want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31 ◼   ► all configurable to comment and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► buttons so everybody within your team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► can do all the sort of stuff that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36 ◼   ► used to doing our social networks right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► there within your own private internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► and everything is responsive web design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► wise so it looks fantastic on everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► from your phone to your tablet to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49 ◼   ► big giant 5k imac so go to a glue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► software.com / TS TS for the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► it was awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► calm / tts and you can get a free trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03 ◼   ► for your team and see for yourself just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► how good it is my thanks to them I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► wanted to talk about this so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► bright in Google's bragging on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► camera might be a great camera but their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► banking it all on these the scores from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► dxomark and I didn't have time before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► the show to look this up but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► something else recently were taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► within the last year or so we're dxomark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► came out with something about Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► image quality and they have this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32 ◼   ► test that comes out they don't know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► do they run these tests and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► get a number from one to a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► that's it like that so the the pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► phone how good the picture your kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► yeah maybe six picture how good is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► am ready good but not so good it's an 89 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► and I'd this to me sounds like bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► and i know some people will say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► that's because you're a fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► iphone and you've got an iphone and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► so if Apple had the higher score you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04 ◼   ► be bragging about that I I don't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► I don't understand how you do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10 ◼   ► it's not like the iphone is that far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► behind the iphone 7 is at 86 on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► scale i don't know if that's for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► the iphone 7 plus and the seven or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► the iphone 7 there's a couple of android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► phones at 87 and 88 including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28 ◼   ► samsung galaxy s7 edge which i've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► is is a and I've seen examples from is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► probably the one camera that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35 ◼   ► anything's better than the iphone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► the galaxy s7 yeah i think so I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► think the s7 is probably the best camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► out there other than the iphone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► if shipping phones or whatever whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► you want to call I i mean i find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► scale to be a little bit weird because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:49 ◼   ► there's like the Moto z-force droid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► rated higher than the I iphone 7 as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► the xperia z5 the galaxy galaxy s6 edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2996">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► which is it a generation old HTC 10 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05 ◼   ► mean that's the problem with numerical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► scales right is that the they don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► any sense across generations they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► make any sense you know out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► model year and frankly they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► make any really damn sense at all i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► not a fan of numeric scale never assign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► them to reviews not even think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21 ◼   ► enormously productive and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► know you could give somebody even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► want to give the cheat sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► you know you can my simple one-line you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29 ◼   ► know kind of explanation of why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► something is good or bad or kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► where rates in the grand scheme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► things and you're doing much people much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36 ◼   ► better favor than a number which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► it's not actually anything you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► it even goes so far like in it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► everybody is there even a consumer level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► people have gotten away from counting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► megapixels and you know for years people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► you know who knew would say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54 ◼   ► megapixels are they are important and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► they certainly were pretty important in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► the early days of digital photography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► where where you know if you only had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► like a 2-megapixel phone you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► couldn't do is only that there's a limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► to how far you could even if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► perfectly exposed there's a limit to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► far you can blow it up because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► pixels just weren't there to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► poster size print it we long ago got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► past that and things like well how big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:17 ◼   ► are the pixels on the sensor not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► how many there are but how big they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► and that you could you know just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► simply that a camera with fewer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► bigger pixels could get much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► image quality than a camera with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► but smaller pixels to fit in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► spray all right there so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► factors kid photography is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► multivariate that the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37 ◼   ► could reduce it like at least with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► megapixel comparison you really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► counting something and you can argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► whether it makes for a better camera or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► not but you could say well 15 megapixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► is more than 12 megapixels you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49 ◼   ► deny that you could argue about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50 ◼   ► it actually makes for a better camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► not but it's at least when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► comparing those numbers you're comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► the same thing whereas kept saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► one gets an 89 I I don't know that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► seems like bullshit to me and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► think that girl's heart was in it I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► maybe I'm reading into it but when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► talked about it on stage in the event to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► me when they said that I forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► guy's name it was talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► camera it just seemed to me like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► heart wasn't in it because google people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► naturally google naturally draws people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► who want to measure things that are real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► and this to me seems like a bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21 ◼   ► center at the example photos they showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► taken with the pixels did look very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► yeah I have no doubt well I don't deny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► that it might have a very nice camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32 ◼   ► it might be a better camera than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► iphone 7 I don't know but using dxomark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► to prove it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► raises some rattle rattle works well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41 ◼   ► you go to mean the megapixels discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► I think it's apt right because you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► like in the first really affordable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► quote-unquote commercial digital SLR was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:52 ◼   ► the 30d right and around that time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55 ◼   ► the time of the age of the mavica most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► people don't remember it was the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► camera issues through a floppy disk into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► that Sony made and then took pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► onto a floppy disk and then they came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► the CD mavica and so on and so forth but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► from those days all the way on through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10 ◼   ► to like and came out with this some it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► was a g6 and the previous model the g5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► don't quote me don't at me because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► sure i'm getting these bombers wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► something like you know 2008 or 2009 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► somewhere around there for a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► earlier and they came out with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► compact g-series camera which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► know compact point-and-shoot and it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► previous year's model year had been 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► megapixel and this model year was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► 10-megapixel and everybody was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► going ape like customer wise like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► would you know go like why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► you know where you is all I was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► cameras at the time and they're like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45 ◼   ► I do you were you know why just go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► and you have to sort of explain to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► about pixel pitch right in the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► the capture element and how a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► megapixel rating you know it anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► over 8 megapixels already going to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► you a grade 8 by 10 and and larger even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► so at that point it's all a wash and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► them to get better image quality they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► had to concentrate on the size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► elements to reduce the noise and to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► you a better picture quality all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► and so the numbers race is like a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► hot it's a just a long done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► I mean it's done almost 10 years ago now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► you know and that is that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► that when you get into when you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► reading things to America liso like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► dxomark has these really wacky phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► rated above the iphone 7 because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► chart crosses model years and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► cameras have lower pixel pitch and worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► quality but in fact r-rated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► quote-unquote better because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► rated on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► all of the older phones but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► have in addition like the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► bothers me about dxo the Excel has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48 ◼   ► around for a lot of years but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► last couple years they've started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► marketing and attachment for the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► camera that is supposed to make it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► a DSLR quality or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► basically a huge sensor much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► sensor that can fit in your iphone in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► external unit that you plug into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► Lightning port right and it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► sits on the side like I like a tumor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► you know takes better pictures and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► sure it takes but I've never tried one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13 ◼   ► we are our camera guys have tried one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► and they think it's fine but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► is like you go dxomark you go to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19 ◼   ► review of the pixel and it's literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► the logo the site the charts on the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► of the right-hand side of the page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► the pixel you know overview is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► there and framing the pixel review of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:34 ◼   ► the camera is an enormous banner for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► DxO one iphone attachment and then down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► at the bottom of pop up banner is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► discovered the DxO one crow quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► camera miniaturised connected with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► picture of an iphone and this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► plugged into it right so look I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► these folks are very nice i'm sure this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► you know this David Cardinal is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57 ◼   ► you know the best work you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► writing this article but it does raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► questions about how much you can rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► the rating of a camera company on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► another person's camera when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09 ◼   ► actually made for the same device like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► oh what's better the iphone's camera or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► the one we made for the iphone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► and I look it's probably fine and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:19 ◼   ► probably like this three-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► difference between that and the pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► probably doesn't have anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► it's just I always take stuff coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► from DXL about smartphones with a grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► of salt as long as they're in the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► business i was well well my gut you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► right that there they've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► motivation to make iphone users think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► maybe the iphone camera isn't that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► because they're selling a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► camera that you can add to your iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► like don't worry you don't replace your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42 ◼   ► iphone you can just buy our camera that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44 ◼   ► you stick on the lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► yeah all your camera is only an 84 ours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► too bad but we can make it a hundred do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► they give a rating to their dxo when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► no I don't know that would be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► though I would love to look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► maybe they really like a 70 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► that would be funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► uh but any other pixel like I I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► it's hard to kind of make any value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► judgments on the camera until I take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► look at it right like I don't wanna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► off the handle and say oh it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:10 ◼   ► graphic when it may be as amazing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► just haven't seen it yet I that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► the worst thing there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► specifications that do tell some stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► about the camera it has a larger pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20 ◼   ► pitch than the iphone so however they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► arrange their sensor and size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► sensor they managed to map out larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► capture elements per pixel which does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► help write it helps with color rendition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► the way that pic capture elements work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► is that there's like a small flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► capture element that sits on the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► the sensor and then above it there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► sort of well right and that well divides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► it from the capture elements next to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► and the way light shines in especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► from the edges can affect how much color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► information that that capture element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► picks up and how it reads like a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► pixel or green or whatever the case may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► be and all of that is predicated on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► large each of those wells are and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► bigger the pixel pitch the wider those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► wells are the better color rendition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► more accurate color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09 ◼   ► the less you know weirdness around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► edges of the borders of two colors where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► they blend into one another or divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► from one another all of that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► be affected by the pixel pitch so seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► a larger pixel pitch is already a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► so that's good right and then on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► that though d do have a i believe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► smaller aperture then the widest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► aperture on the iphones think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► tool to point out whereas the iphones a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► big and what's one point is that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36 ◼   ► stopped her . i don't think perhaps I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► think it's a half yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► yes right anyhow it's brighter right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► so people are saying is brighter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► know the iphones brighter but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► same time the larger pixel pitch could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► offset it and then some right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48 ◼   ► because it is significantly larger so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► you know I'm interested to see what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► can do it i I'm curious right it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► so many variables that go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56 ◼   ► photography and that it really is e and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3536">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► it's always been it's not just new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► digital photography it's always been an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03 ◼   ► argument over how much you know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04 ◼   ► class you want to carry around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► right I it you know and in sensor versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► the lens and Indian a bigger people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► getting more light by having doing it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► the sensor side as opposed to doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► on the aperture side it's it effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► it in the bottom line is what is it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► to actually go out and shoot photos with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► the thing and that's what matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25 ◼   ► one difference I've seen is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► doesn't it unless they're not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► about it doesn't have optical image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31 ◼   ► stabilization so i think on stills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► that's going to hurt them a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36 ◼   ► because it certainly is gonna it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► really really does help with stills on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► video I'm not sure because it seems you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► know there there there had to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45 ◼   ► good Drive gyroscope driven it digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► stabilization for video and they showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► an example that was supposedly shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► side-by-side where they exaggerated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55 ◼   ► camera shake of video while you walk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► they're stabilized version look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► they're stabilized version look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► you good yeah I'm still did you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03 ◼   ► normal rolling shutter effects and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► you do get the little blur and low light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► and stuff but it looks like the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09 ◼   ► mean you know this is Google's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► bag you know the digital stabilization i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► would estimate would probably be pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► good so it's not i'm not shocked to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► that it is pretty good yeah video but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17 ◼   ► you had no no optical stabilization i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► have a nap and maybe there's other apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► that do it but I have an app for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► iphone called horizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24 ◼   ► I don't know if you've ever heard of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► it it's an app that lets you shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28 ◼   ► horizontal video no matter how you hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► your iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► oh ok so then what they're doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► they're just using a crop of the sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► right you do it and so that you can hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► you now obviously did there there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41 ◼   ► little you know it's not magic it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43 ◼   ► doesn't shoot the same exact video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► you would get holding it horizontally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► when you hold it visit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► vertically it's it's a crop so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50 ◼   ► almost like the equivalent of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► zoomed in a little bit right but you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► a preview while you shoot but thereit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► I they must be doing the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:00 ◼   ► because it it also the other effect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02 ◼   ► even when you when you use horizon to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► shoot even if you hold your your iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► horizontally you still get stabilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► and yes you know it's all the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:12 ◼   ► stabilization systems are exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14 ◼   ► they're all based on crop and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► the most intelligent ones will crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► dynamically right the earliest ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► the the earliest digital stabilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:26 ◼   ► systems were all based on a fixed crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► so they would essentially crop in twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30 ◼   ► percent of your resolution and then use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► that as a buffer right to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► stabilize your image and the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36 ◼   ► dynamic ones the newer ones like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38 ◼   ► google one most likely although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40 ◼   ► haven't read deep on it very that crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► by how fast you're moving your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► these the accelerometer data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46 ◼   ► gyroscope data to say hey you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48 ◼   ► you're vibrating your you know jigging a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50 ◼   ► lot so let's go ahead and just drop in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52 ◼   ► ton and then oh you're more stable now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:55 ◼   ► you've stopped walking or whatever let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:56 ◼   ► let's go back out and get you as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► revolution as we can so the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3718">TS</a>]

01:01:59 ◼   ► intelligent ones that's what they do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► that's the way apples digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02 ◼   ► stabilization works on the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04 ◼   ► iphone success word has no optical right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► I i think it's a win for the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► and i will be proven out that it that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► all of the iphone said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► + + + regular-sized you get true optical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► image stabilization including for video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► so that's how you what I missed the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20 ◼   ► out of it into x 0 in general it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23 ◼   ► worst yeah like yeah it's the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:27 ◼   ► I keep telling myself to control myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29 ◼   ► that my personal iphone just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31 ◼   ► have the 2x camera is that well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34 ◼   ► doesn't know is so who cares right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37 ◼   ► so I didn't get it is very shaky I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39 ◼   ► tell you especially because it's 2x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► right you know so yeah it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► you pay but it's a it's a camera for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► well-lit situations while we're on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:50 ◼   ► this subject I don't know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52 ◼   ► anybody who knows more about the depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► effect on the iphone 7 plus than you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57 ◼   ► you had pre-release access to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59 ◼   ► feature a couple days before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► developer beta came out your explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04 ◼   ► of it is as as detailed technically as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06 ◼   ► anything I've seen more detailed in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► regards even then what Apple is seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► because you you've looked at them to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► them to tell you like that the that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14 ◼   ► wrote their own custom disc player which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► is funny because it came up couple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19 ◼   ► like I keep seeing people say that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► like a gaussian blur which is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► what you said your first version of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:25 ◼   ► support or irritated I'm so irritated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:26 ◼   ► right there than it was in my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► right I it gives I think because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31 ◼   ► remember talking to you about it behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32 ◼   ► the scenes and you were somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► skeptical that it was a gaussian blur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► your life but he told me pretty sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► right that's why you're here is all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► is Gaussian you just say okay yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42 ◼   ► doesn't honestly of a reader and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44 ◼   ► sorry i don't have his I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► tree in front of me but I'm he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47 ◼   ► tweeted at me and was like hey this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► picture of a strawberry that you have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51 ◼   ► your piece like I'm the edges of it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53 ◼   ► blue the bloom really looks like disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► player and the guys probably in visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57 ◼   ► you know in visual work somehow he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59 ◼   ► designer or visual effects of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01 ◼   ► is the visual effects supervisors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► those people are writing articles about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04 ◼   ► it now they all have it nailed him you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► know like they're they're super sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► about this because they do it all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:09 ◼   ► they in the simulate camera effects for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► the right thing right or many of them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► but the he said hey this kind of looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17 ◼   ► like a disclaimer be sure and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► no no I i was really like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21 ◼   ► and he's like all just just asking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23 ◼   ► I'm like no you're at you know it pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► you know actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► that look at it and so I went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27 ◼   ► yeah it's a custom disclosure so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29 ◼   ► really into that getting anything wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► so I just like it makes me itch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► here's that there i've noticed and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34 ◼   ► had a little few brief conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► with people on Twitter about it is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38 ◼   ► least for me personally while I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► shooting test shots with the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► plus review unit with the feature on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44 ◼   ► looks to me like they're doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► different with the noise that to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:51 ◼   ► gives a sort of film like grain to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:56 ◼   ► noise on those images and I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58 ◼   ► the same thing on the non portrait shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:01 ◼   ► and I'm and I don't know if I'm seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:04 ◼   ► what I want to see because I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► been no I having it to have seen it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► and honestly I haven't seen as much on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► my shots but maybe i just have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11 ◼   ► looking but I've seen a ton on examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13 ◼   ► like these people are showing me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15 ◼   ► things that I see on Instagram and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► I'd i have seen a better and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► know i don't have no information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21 ◼   ► whether they're artificially under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:25 ◼   ► sharpening it right or sharpening it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27 ◼   ► with a tighter radius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:28 ◼   ► excuse me under noise-reducing it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► what i meant was sharpening with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32 ◼   ► tighter radius because I'd i am not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► fan of how aggressively Apple noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38 ◼   ► reduces their images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► yeah so I feel that the day iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► images while great would be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► subjectively right and this is me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49 ◼   ► talking this is not like some grandiose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► statement about better or worse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53 ◼   ► everybody but I definitely feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55 ◼   ► they would be better if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► sharpened a little bit less while still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:00 ◼   ► understanding why they do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► most people would just rather not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► any grain you know and that to me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► the trade-off and i get it i just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09 ◼   ► like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10 ◼   ► yeah I've never been afraid of the grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► I've used to when I shot film would tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► to just leave the camera loaded with 400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17 ◼   ► or even eight hundred speed film because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► i always thought like if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21 ◼   ► leave some film in there be ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► any situation and if it means that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26 ◼   ► an outside and i'm getting a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► grain because I could be shootin like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30 ◼   ► with a hundred speed film so be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► because the color still look good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36 ◼   ► can shoot indoors and and get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► exposure where I couldn't if i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► hundred speed film already loaded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41 ◼   ► there and if there was a slider I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► set in iOS that adjusted the noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► reduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► mmm i would probably turn it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► lowest setting that apple would allow me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52 ◼   ► to get away with knowing that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► isn't going to say don't know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► reduce it all because that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► things people have been noticing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:58 ◼   ► you can shoot raw with the iphone camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► is holy shit how much noise there is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► the image when you shoot raw and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:05 ◼   ► everybody just once again raised right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07 ◼   ► everybody i know who's like using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09 ◼   ► Lightroom to shoot raw on the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► as I holy shit these this I can do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► see this isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17 ◼   ► I'm sure there's somebody and Abelard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18 ◼   ► you know on the camera team at her like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20 ◼   ► you did not have a small that sensor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22 ◼   ► huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:23 ◼   ► and you know what kind of miracles were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:24 ◼   ► pulling and like I that's why am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26 ◼   ► always say you don't I try to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► careful and when I'm talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29 ◼   ► noise and say for me like I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► okay if they dialed it back but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33 ◼   ► there really are performing miracles I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35 ◼   ► mean honestly the raw image that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37 ◼   ► off of that sensor is already better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:40 ◼   ► than the actual data you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:43 ◼   ► get so I'm going to think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► you're getting a view point of view port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:48 ◼   ► with the raw stuff you know well into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:51 ◼   ► just how good the isp is yes and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:55 ◼   ► know that you can always tweak it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:56 ◼   ► talked about this last week I must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58 ◼   ► two beloved devices not just cameras but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:02 ◼   ► devices I've ever owned was my original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► key Rico grd the first ricoh gr is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:07 ◼   ► . shoot cameras that they made for film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09 ◼   ► for years and when they first went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► digital they call it the grd was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12 ◼   ► first generation one and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► confusing because then they had the grd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:15 ◼   ► to in the grd 3i think and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17 ◼   ► went back they went back and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19 ◼   ► had one instead of numbering it for they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21 ◼   ► just went back to ricoh gr and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23 ◼   ► very confusing but I had the original 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25 ◼   ► think about it in 2006 and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:28 ◼   ► reason i bought it i bought it without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:29 ◼   ► ever had knowing anybody who owned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31 ◼   ► just based on reviews and it was gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33 ◼   ► market wasn't sold it officially sold in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35 ◼   ► north america was that everybody said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:38 ◼   ► that Rico's digital sensor is tuned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► isp is tuned to to turn them make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44 ◼   ► noise look more like film grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46 ◼   ► and everybody who had one on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48 ◼   ► boards would say so and i looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► people's flickr uploads and looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52 ◼   ► you know flickr will let you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► original so like I damned if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55 ◼   ► doesn't look like film grain not digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► noise or at least less more along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:00 ◼   ► lines and the idea was and Rico is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02 ◼   ► explicit about it as opposed to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04 ◼   ► sort of secret of like Apple and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:05 ◼   ► really talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07 ◼   ► Rico is very explicit and said there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:10 ◼   ► limit to what we can do with these my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12 ◼   ► name was a you know very small sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► for a 2006 point-and-shoot there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16 ◼   ► limit to how much there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18 ◼   ► noise and so traveler than trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► hide the noise we are efforts are to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23 ◼   ► make the noise aesthetically pleasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:24 ◼   ► and that's exactly what film the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27 ◼   ► industry did for a hundred years so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► the people who are like anti-noise would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31 ◼   ► say are you film you guys are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33 ◼   ► celebrate film you're just you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:37 ◼   ► room and rings and if you know it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:41 ◼   ► you're celebrating something that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43 ◼   ► that was a technical limitation anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45 ◼   ► but I would argue in my my opinion it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48 ◼   ► sort of as an amateur but the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50 ◼   ► film grain looked good wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52 ◼   ► nostalgia it was because the Kodak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► fuji and the other film companies spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57 ◼   ► a hundred years making the noise look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59 ◼   ► better you know what what I call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02 ◼   ► noise now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:03 ◼   ► you know that it wasn't like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► just because it was old that we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► film grain look good it was that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► didn't know decades of work went into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► making it look good anyway I see it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:13 ◼   ► the seven plus portrait shots and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15 ◼   ► don't know if it's my imagination or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17 ◼   ► yeah i mean it i dunno i do know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:22 ◼   ► they you know did the work that was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:26 ◼   ► to tune the ISB was definitely done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:29 ◼   ► an eye to what it come in the past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► not just photographs you know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32 ◼   ► other works of art too i mean remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34 ◼   ► they're creating his custom from scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36 ◼   ► and apples never one to kind of go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► the accepted wisdom around something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40 ◼   ► like that you know there they had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► opportunity to sort of tune the ISB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45 ◼   ► however they wanted and now that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► camera honestly whatever would what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:50 ◼   ► is a defining you no definitive deciding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:54 ◼   ► factor between phones most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► is the camera these days now and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59 ◼   ► argue that a ir like the assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02 ◼   ► features maybe you what they're seeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04 ◼   ► for to be next but right now if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:07 ◼   ► deciding between three cameras three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09 ◼   ► phones on the Shelf you kind of want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10 ◼   ► know which one is the best camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:11 ◼   ► because that's your camera to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► it's it's a huge factor when they decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16 ◼   ► on on picking stuff so now that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► have an opportunity to to really have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► amazing camera that has optical zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24 ◼   ► that has all of these additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:25 ◼   ► features that could be unlocked in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27 ◼   ► future by having two lenses and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:30 ◼   ► able to tune the isp how they want they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32 ◼   ► can pick and choose in and really create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► a look that is new you know and it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:39 ◼   ► have some elements of film may have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42 ◼   ► elements of what we consider to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45 ◼   ► you know characteristic of digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:48 ◼   ► images which would be you know maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► little bit crisper maybe a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53 ◼   ► lower noise or whatever but I you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55 ◼   ► definitely kind of see them combining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57 ◼   ► the two qualities I've been thinking one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59 ◼   ► thing that skirt Emil as more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01 ◼   ► people are shooting with this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03 ◼   ► he stopped to have a beta so it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:04 ◼   ► pretty uncommon after a have to have his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► iphone 7 plus and bf to be willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08 ◼   ► install the beta but I've seen enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11 ◼   ► it occurs to add this thought had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13 ◼   ► occurred to me but now the more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14 ◼   ► about it the more i think it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:15 ◼   ► be a big deal is that the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18 ◼   ► people who see your photos on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21 ◼   ► phones are you seeing them on Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23 ◼   ► on their phone or in facebook or on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25 ◼   ► twitter or something like that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:26 ◼   ► seeing them in such a small size that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28 ◼   ► the smaller the size you view the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30 ◼   ► at the more hot the more like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33 ◼   ► boca from a real large sensor camera the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:37 ◼   ► effect looks like you have to zoom in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40 ◼   ► more to be have to make it really big to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42 ◼   ► see the the deficiencies of the trickery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45 ◼   ► so right when you see somebody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47 ◼   ► an iphone 7 plus using this feature just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49 ◼   ► in their Instagram feed your it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:53 ◼   ► going to be your that's more compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55 ◼   ► than looking at and blown up to a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57 ◼   ► size on your imac yeah and comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:00 ◼   ► like a lot of obviously and this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:01 ◼   ► a dig it's sort of what people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:04 ◼   ► see but comparing it against even in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:07 ◼   ► piece like I had to really had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09 ◼   ► compare it against the same shot which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12 ◼   ► it does shoot out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13 ◼   ► matically the same shot without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:14 ◼   ► effect you know it because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:17 ◼   ► we want to see right all what did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:18 ◼   ► look like before what does it look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19 ◼   ► after but i honestly think that does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21 ◼   ► a disservice because if they could then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23 ◼   ► allows you to go through and like be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:24 ◼   ► really picky any about like all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26 ◼   ► particular thing is wrong or this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28 ◼   ► missed this or whatever but if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30 ◼   ► look at it in isolation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32 ◼   ► they're really pretty good i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34 ◼   ► there's some that are really funky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:35 ◼   ► weird and dumb and silly and it screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38 ◼   ► up but it is very early and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:41 ◼   ► some shots out of it that are just great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43 ◼   ► yeah and you don't have to use them Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:44 ◼   ► if it turns out weird you got the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46 ◼   ► one which would have been what it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:47 ◼   ► look like normally so there's no loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:50 ◼   ► yeah back to the pixel okay and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:57 ◼   ► don't think it I think that digression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59 ◼   ► about the iphone camera is fine because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01 ◼   ► it one of them had a big picture i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03 ◼   ► it's not just what the did the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:06 ◼   ► look like with it before you even turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08 ◼   ► them on and saying look this industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10 ◼   ► design is is just it blatantly following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► apples lead everything about the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16 ◼   ► to me is is saying we're making an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:20 ◼   ► iphone caliber you know if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22 ◼   ► going after the iphone market they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24 ◼   ► a switching tool that I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26 ◼   ► how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:27 ◼   ► it's fascinating to me i can't wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29 ◼   ► see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30 ◼   ► they have a cable they ship it with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:31 ◼   ► as lightning on one side goes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33 ◼   ► pixel on the other and takes things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:36 ◼   ► your iMessages and your text messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38 ◼   ► from the phone I don't understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40 ◼   ► the something with a lightning cable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:41 ◼   ► reading that I guess it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43 ◼   ► pretending to be like itunes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45 ◼   ► something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:46 ◼   ► yeah many gay yeah you'll have to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48 ◼   ► it permission on your iPhone way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50 ◼   ► thought I want to trust it right trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52 ◼   ► this thing and it will take it over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:53 ◼   ► I guess it'll put your I message and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:57 ◼   ► text message history into a low i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4497">TS</a>]

01:15:01 ◼   ► or or maybe their messages that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03 ◼   ► know which apt are going to put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05 ◼   ► history into but that's a big deal like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07 ◼   ► this suit they really i mean whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09 ◼   ► it's going to work or not they seem too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:10 ◼   ► seriously be saying look we know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:13 ◼   ► a lot of people using iPhones who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15 ◼   ► also using heavily into google services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17 ◼   ► including I'm sure thousands of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:20 ◼   ► who work at Google and they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22 ◼   ► that they're doing the best effort they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24 ◼   ► can to say you would we want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26 ◼   ► pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:26 ◼   ► table for you to switch and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:30 ◼   ► couple of things that they're all on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:32 ◼   ► text back page in a way that to me these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:35 ◼   ► are a couple of things where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37 ◼   ► obviously ahead of apple and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:40 ◼   ► say you know Apple it's it's they've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42 ◼   ► think that you know they really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:45 ◼   ► catch up here's one of them unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:46 ◼   ► storage for photos and videos at full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:50 ◼   ► resolution right if you buy a pixel your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:53 ◼   ► your google photos account will and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:56 ◼   ► here's what I'm curious about that is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:57 ◼   ► only for photos you've shot on the pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:00 ◼   ► or can you shoot 4k video on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02 ◼   ► camera and because you have owned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03 ◼   ► pixel you can upload it all to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05 ◼   ► google account em who I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:09 ◼   ► even if it is only for the photoshoot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11 ◼   ► the pixel that's that is a hell of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:14 ◼   ► thing Apple gives you five gigabytes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16 ◼   ► storage for free and that includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18 ◼   ► everything your backups your documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:21 ◼   ► and your photos and Google is saying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:25 ◼   ► photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:26 ◼   ► unlimited at full resolution that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:30 ◼   ► huge difference because really people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32 ◼   ► run up against that five gigabyte limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34 ◼   ► if they shoot photos with any regularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36 ◼   ► let alone if they shoot 1080p or 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39 ◼   ► video yeah and that thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42 ◼   ► five-year my limit has been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:43 ◼   ► forever you know I mean I'd I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:46 ◼   ► it's if it i'm not sure this well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:49 ◼   ► because i don't know if people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:53 ◼   ► know this is a big factor in people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55 ◼   ► buying an iphone but if it does for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:58 ◼   ► black of a better word shame it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:04 ◼   ► shame apple into giving us unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06 ◼   ► storage for free or at least some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09 ◼   ► enormous amount you know some finite and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11 ◼   ► but enormous amount every I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:14 ◼   ► that would be that would thank Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4634">TS</a>]

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01:17:19 ◼   ► to segregate photos storage from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4639">TS</a>]

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01:17:28 ◼   ► gigabytes is not enough especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4648">TS</a>]

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01:17:41 ◼   ► separate iCloud accounts so we use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43 ◼   ► same itunes account so she gets all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4663">TS</a>]

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01:17:48 ◼   ► account so all of her photos and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51 ◼   ► that stuff sink to her phone but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52 ◼   ► get them all in my photostream right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4672">TS</a>]

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01:17:57 ◼   ► care but it's just a little less messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59 ◼   ► and i got like 1500 screenshots and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:02 ◼   ► camera so you might see all that junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04 ◼   ► you know and these pictures of events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06 ◼   ► she doesn't even know what I do for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:07 ◼   ► living so she's ok but the that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:11 ◼   ► like she has a five-year quite so now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14 ◼   ► have to pay to upgrade her when I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:17 ◼   ► already paid upgrade myself because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19 ◼   ► have three phones and she's got her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:22 ◼   ► phone and my daughter's ipad and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:24 ◼   ► iPad and you know it cetera and the its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:28 ◼   ► full instantly instantly you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30 ◼   ► to ensure that she doesn't lose stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:34 ◼   ► she's gotta back up to iCloud or up her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36 ◼   ► iCloud storage because they mean she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:39 ◼   ► didn't have a computer like we are truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41 ◼   ► a post computer household aside from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43 ◼   ► which has to sort of is like tied to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46 ◼   ► desk tops because I choose to be right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:50 ◼   ► mean i could probably do my job from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52 ◼   ► iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:52 ◼   ► don't tell my boss but you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:55 ◼   ► the big screens to help especially on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57 ◼   ► busy news days or when I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59 ◼   ► managing a huge team across multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01 ◼   ► continents but my wife doesn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03 ◼   ► and her work even better bring computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05 ◼   ► into the water so she doesn't care right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:07 ◼   ► and so for her computer is your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10 ◼   ► and is her iPad and she doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12 ◼   ► anything to plug it into the back it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14 ◼   ► you know if I wasn't if I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:16 ◼   ► this you know desktop there would be no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:19 ◼   ► option to do that and not only want her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:20 ◼   ► to do that right because i erase and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:23 ◼   ► install beta hasn't all kinds of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25 ◼   ► stuff on my machine and machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27 ◼   ► encrypted and all kinds of junk so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:30 ◼   ► know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:30 ◼   ► maybe i'm not home she can't get on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32 ◼   ► or whatever so for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34 ◼   ► I cloud is her computer right that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37 ◼   ► her storage that is everything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39 ◼   ► all of the storage in the world that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:41 ◼   ► has aside from local on her phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43 ◼   ► it's just really crippling and silly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45 ◼   ► it to be so small out of the gate like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47 ◼   ► it should guarantee that you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49 ◼   ► able to back up a full iphone yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51 ◼   ► out of like out-of-the-box anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54 ◼   ► is just kind of silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:55 ◼   ► yeah and I you know it's it i'm only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:59 ◼   ► saying that Apple has to do this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:02 ◼   ► people who have purchased devices of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:05 ◼   ► know I don't know where you cut it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4805">TS</a>]

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01:20:10 ◼   ► should necessarily get free unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:11 ◼   ► storage to anybody who just signed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13 ◼   ► for free by cloud account but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15 ◼   ► want if you're if you've bought a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:18 ◼   ► device especially the iphones which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:21 ◼   ► start at six hundred forty nine dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23 ◼   ► or seven hundred dollars or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:24 ◼   ► like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:25 ◼   ► i I'd you know and it's easy for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27 ◼   ► always say this it's easy for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:28 ◼   ► spend Tim Cook's money from my armchair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4828">TS</a>]

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01:20:32 ◼   ► is possible here is a phone you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34 ◼   ► for the exact same prices the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35 ◼   ► that comes with free unlimited cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37 ◼   ► storage for photos and video so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:40 ◼   ► to me the bar is raised and it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42 ◼   ► above it's not like two you know five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44 ◼   ► gigabytes vs 10 gigabytes it's five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46 ◼   ► gigabytes which is not enough vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48 ◼   ► unlimited pure and simple that Apple it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:51 ◼   ► needs to catch up the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53 ◼   ► it's right here is that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:55 ◼   ► fast-charging they call it seven hours i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57 ◼   ► don't mind sure seven hours of what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59 ◼   ► say you can get seven hours of battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01 ◼   ► life in just 15 minutes with the pics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03 ◼   ► right now I thought it was my guess was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:06 ◼   ► my guess was they've included a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:10 ◼   ► expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4870">TS</a>]

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01:21:14 ◼   ► text back and that's exactly it as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:15 ◼   ► comes with a USB c18 wanted aptor right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:19 ◼   ► that's the the thing that makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:22 ◼   ► iphone so slow to charges that it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:23 ◼   ► with a 5 watt adapter it's if you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:27 ◼   ► an iphone i think it's true for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29 ◼   ► regular seven but I know it's true the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31 ◼   ► seven plus if you plug it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33 ◼   ► expensive a ipad pro at 12-1 adapter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:37 ◼   ► charges way faster and apple sells I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:40 ◼   ► forget how many watts it is but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:41 ◼   ► sell like a fifty or sixty dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44 ◼   ► standalone adapter that will charge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47 ◼   ► even faster than that so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:48 ◼   ► iphones can't do fast-charging nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:51 ◼   ► just knows about it because they shipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53 ◼   ► with these measly little 51 adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55 ◼   ► that charge well sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57 ◼   ► right like yeah it will charge faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59 ◼   ► absolutely you can charge it with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01 ◼   ► ipad adapter it'll charge I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03 ◼   ► no let's call it 2x faster right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:06 ◼   ► but the the quick charging that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08 ◼   ► 15 minutes 47 hours or whatever I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:11 ◼   ► that's like 4x to 5x the normal charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13 ◼   ► rate of a bone and generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16 ◼   ► that has to be enabled by quick charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:19 ◼   ► secure a circuitry so quick charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:22 ◼   ► circuitry and then a controller which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24 ◼   ► controls that obviously the rate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26 ◼   ► voltage and all of that stuff going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28 ◼   ► the battery by qualcomm makes a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30 ◼   ► charge system right so if you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32 ◼   ► snapdragons in your phone you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:33 ◼   ► there quick charge you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:35 ◼   ► plug-and-play and in your device as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4955">TS</a>]

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01:22:40 ◼   ► you can grab Qualcomm's chip and and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:42 ◼   ► it in there and then we'll give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44 ◼   ► faster charging and and all of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46 ◼   ► i think it's just a there is a real like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:51 ◼   ► there's a real disconnect between this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:56 ◼   ► concept of oh I'm gonna charge my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:59 ◼   ► real fast and i'm also going to ensure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:04 ◼   ► that the battery lasts a long time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06 ◼   ► know and and doesn't deteriorate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:09 ◼   ► quick charging does damage batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11 ◼   ► right the faster you charge the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:14 ◼   ► battery the more strain you put on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:16 ◼   ► and the more aging cycles you put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18 ◼   ► that the chemistry so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21 ◼   ► trade-offs you know and sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:22 ◼   ► get hot and sometimes they explode so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:25 ◼   ► quick charging is is good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:28 ◼   ► interesting technology that could very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:31 ◼   ► well paved the way towards like well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33 ◼   ► you can charge something in five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35 ◼   ► who really cares how long the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5015">TS</a>]

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01:23:41 ◼   ► ship with that at least the 10 watt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43 ◼   ► power adapter if not the 12-volt power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45 ◼   ► adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5025">TS</a>]

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01:23:57 ◼   ► samsung has some problems with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5037">TS</a>]

01:24:02 ◼   ► batteries in and their phones i had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5042">TS</a>]

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01:24:09 ◼   ► everything that some some guy was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11 ◼   ► Southwest flight this morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5051">TS</a>]

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01:24:18 ◼   ► even powered off he says but whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:21 ◼   ► it started burning a hole in his pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5061">TS</a>]

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01:24:26 ◼   ► know there's smoke coming out of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28 ◼   ► they evacuated before the plane took off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5068">TS</a>]

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01:24:31 ◼   ► the the flight staff on the southwest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33 ◼   ► was like well everybody knows get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:34 ◼   ► everybody off the plane nobody got hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36 ◼   ► calm and orderly you know disembarkation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:39 ◼   ► set the word yes and then they went in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:42 ◼   ► to take a look and it burned through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:44 ◼   ► floor of the plane I hadn't heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:48 ◼   ► bit but the scary part the really scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50 ◼   ► part is that it was a updated the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:54 ◼   ► that he just bought on September 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:55 ◼   ► hours and was supposedly had like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57 ◼   ► marking on the package that says this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59 ◼   ► one of the good ones not one of the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:00 ◼   ► ones right which makes me think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:04 ◼   ► been wondering for a while with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5104">TS</a>]

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01:25:08 ◼   ► because I think people don't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:09 ◼   ► closely and people get on an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5109">TS</a>]

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01:25:20 ◼   ► for the entire flight which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22 ◼   ► terrible publicity I mean just tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:24 ◼   ► follow everything worse thoughts of will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5124">TS</a>]

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01:25:29 ◼   ► on Twitter saying that they're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:30 ◼   ► people out in the airport to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32 ◼   ► they're you know you know when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5132">TS</a>]

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01:25:38 ◼   ► minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5138">TS</a>]

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01:25:40 ◼   ► gotta power it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5140">TS</a>]

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01:25:45 ◼   ► seven just throwing the trash on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5145">TS</a>]

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01:25:50 ◼   ► they going to deal with this when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:51 ◼   ► there's good ones and bad ones and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53 ◼   ► you say oh no i've got i just got my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55 ◼   ► one but it's got the green battery icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:58 ◼   ► up in a corner its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5158">TS</a>]

01:25:59 ◼   ► this one's good are they gonna they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:01 ◼   ► gonna believe that are they going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5161">TS</a>]

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01:26:04 ◼   ► and now they're gonna believe them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:07 ◼   ► you kidding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5167">TS</a>]

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01:26:10 ◼   ► our devices on planes just because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:11 ◼   ► thought maybe maybe something might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:14 ◼   ► interfere that they had no evidence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16 ◼   ► so I don't think so my other thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:20 ◼   ► with this news today that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5180">TS</a>]

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01:26:24 ◼   ► fire on plane is that they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:25 ◼   ► wreck this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:26 ◼   ► for everybody and they're just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5186">TS</a>]

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01:26:28 ◼   ► phone's power cannot just sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30 ◼   ► you've got our a model before you step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:33 ◼   ► on the plane and did you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:35 ◼   ► they can make you do that or not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37 ◼   ► they could certainly notice if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38 ◼   ► it out here sitting in your seat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40 ◼   ► you're dicking around on your phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5200">TS</a>]

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01:26:52 ◼   ► yeah yeah exactly Nick Bilton goddess to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:55 ◼   ► be able to use our flight while landing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57 ◼   ► an hour damn word Samsung's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59 ◼   ► record for everybody well I i know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01 ◼   ► gotta wrap it up i know the baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5221">TS</a>]

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01:27:31 ◼   ► enough it's not strong enough signal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5251">TS</a>]

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01:27:35 ◼   ► in a oh you know studio apartment or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37 ◼   ► something like that sure you're fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39 ◼   ► if you have a house that has more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41 ◼   ► more than one or two floors or it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:44 ◼   ► thick walls or any sorts of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46 ◼   ► can interfere with the signal you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48 ◼   ► notice that there are parts of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:49 ◼   ► house that don't get a good Wi-Fi signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5269">TS</a>]

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01:27:54 ◼   ► they make a single device it's a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:56 ◼   ► elegant box about the size of an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:58 ◼   ► TV sort of apple style round wreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5278">TS</a>]

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01:28:11 ◼   ► you put the other two strategically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5291">TS</a>]

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01:28:16 ◼   ► is done you just get negotiate that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:19 ◼   ► different pods negotiate with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21 ◼   ► and they just do the work to form a mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:24 ◼   ► network that blankets your home and fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26 ◼   ► reliable Wi-Fi they sent me a three pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:29 ◼   ► when they started sponsoring the show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31 ◼   ► set it up i set it up thinking okay I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:34 ◼   ► set this up and then I'll go back to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36 ◼   ► Apple whatever its called ah and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:40 ◼   ► went back to my airport because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5320">TS</a>]

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01:28:51 ◼   ► unbox the devices and plug them in then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53 ◼   ► it was the to set it up that's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5333">TS</a>]

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01:28:57 ◼   ► done it's unbelievable the configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5337">TS</a>]

01:29:00 ◼   ► goes through a really nice iphone app so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5340">TS</a>]

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01:29:05 ◼   ► or logging in through a stupid web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:07 ◼   ► browser and a certain port or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08 ◼   ► like that you just get on the euro app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5348">TS</a>]

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01:29:20 ◼   ► update automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5360">TS</a>]

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01:29:22 ◼   ► performance update just updates by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:25 ◼   ► itself it's so great they have new feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5365">TS</a>]

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01:29:48 ◼   ► more information on the website where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:50 ◼   ► you can figure out how many you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:51 ◼   ► new and here's the most important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:52 ◼   ► of all 30 day money-back guarantee so by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:56 ◼   ► one see if it works you've got 30 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:58 ◼   ► to just put it back in the box send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00 ◼   ► back to them no questions asked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02 ◼   ► it'll be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:03 ◼   ► here's what you do to find out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:05 ◼   ► you've got to remember this promo code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:07 ◼   ► is the talk show the talk show just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:10 ◼   ► to erode com e ro . com and check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:14 ◼   ► you select overnight shipping and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:17 ◼   ► code the talkshow get you overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19 ◼   ► shipping so depending on the time of day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:20 ◼   ► you're listening to me tell you this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:21 ◼   ► could have it by tomorrow for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:24 ◼   ► shipping wise so go check them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:27 ◼   ► hero.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:28 ◼   ► so I say coincidental because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:32 ◼   ► products google announced at their event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:35 ◼   ► was called google Wi-Fi which is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:38 ◼   ► that works a lot like sounds like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40 ◼   ► works a lot like 0 where you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:41 ◼   ► more than one of these things you spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:44 ◼   ► them around the house and it gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46 ◼   ► y5 and it does all the negotiation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48 ◼   ► you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:52 ◼   ► and as I watched that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54 ◼   ► presentation I've been thinking ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56 ◼   ► since 0 sponsored the show but watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:58 ◼   ► google say it is i began thinking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:01 ◼   ► know it has been i don't remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:02 ◼   ► last time Apple has said a damn word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04 ◼   ► about airport and airport is seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:08 ◼   ► it's like outdated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:10 ◼   ► yeah exactly i mean i-i i did the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:14 ◼   ► thing i bought a pack of Eros and 400 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:17 ◼   ► it singular has what's the plural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19 ◼   ► I don't know i'm going to call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:19 ◼   ► heroes hang out here oh ok like back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:24 ◼   ► awhile 0 a murder of Eros and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:28 ◼   ► installed them and I like him a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:31 ◼   ► I mean if they generally cover well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33 ◼   ► cover areas of my house where I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35 ◼   ► have coverage before even like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37 ◼   ► configured a handful of other extenders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:40 ◼   ► like you know an express attached to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:43 ◼   ► extreme and you know blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:45 ◼   ► right and none of those seem to work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:48 ◼   ► well as the euro so you can just extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50 ◼   ► your arrow spot i guess it's comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52 ◼   ► its cover sation like i like it i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54 ◼   ► the concept a lot and yeah apple hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56 ◼   ► done a whole lot with that and it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:58 ◼   ► seem like a very apple-like concept so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00 ◼   ► just unplug it plug this in and use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:03 ◼   ► iphone app and you're done right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05 ◼   ► like that's like I could see an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07 ◼   ► version of that where you take it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09 ◼   ► the box and you plug it in and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:11 ◼   ► iphone sees it over Bluetooth you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13 ◼   ► Ellie and says like oh hey do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15 ◼   ► to set up your Wi-Fi now and you hit yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17 ◼   ► like the air pod connect thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19 ◼   ► when you flip flip over the airport case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21 ◼   ► it pops up with a little white card and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22 ◼   ► I could totally see like it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24 ◼   ► citizens to have an apple system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:26 ◼   ► works just like that but if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28 ◼   ► and it's still very complex and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:31 ◼   ► airport that utility is not user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:34 ◼   ► friendly and doesn't work at the time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:36 ◼   ► it was so much better than what it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:38 ◼   ► to be before you know if you are using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:41 ◼   ► like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:42 ◼   ► or you know netgear something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44 ◼   ► but it by today's standards and compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:47 ◼   ► to let you know i r+ perfect example you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49 ◼   ► just open the case and you're not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:50 ◼   ► it's like you're not picking like which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:52 ◼   ► gigahertz bluetooth to use which one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:55 ◼   ► the least noise you're not picking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57 ◼   ► our like the way that with airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:58 ◼   ► you're still supposed to pick between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5578">TS</a>]

01:32:59 ◼   ► five gigahertz and 2.5 gigahertz and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:02 ◼   ► pick a channel and it you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:05 ◼   ► do it why do you have to do anything why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:06 ◼   ► can't the software just figured out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08 ◼   ► it seems like you know that certainly 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09 ◼   ► and and and that's seems like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:12 ◼   ► exact description for google Wi-Fi the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:16 ◼   ► thought i had though is that right after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:18 ◼   ► Google Wi-Fi they announced the google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:20 ◼   ► what's a comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:21 ◼   ► the thing that you talked to him yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:24 ◼   ► google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:25 ◼   ► I don't understand why those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:26 ◼   ► separate products or at least why can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28 ◼   ► Google how I understand that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:29 ◼   ► wouldn't want to buy separate google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31 ◼   ► homes to be the pods that extend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:33 ◼   ► Wi-Fi but it seems to me like there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:35 ◼   ► two teams that weren't talking to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37 ◼   ► other that should have been talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:38 ◼   ► each other because maybe like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:40 ◼   ► you're one you know base station should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:42 ◼   ► be the google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:44 ◼   ► yeah i think that two teams thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46 ◼   ► probably right but i also think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48 ◼   ► they are they're aiming that as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:51 ◼   ► have to be a product that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:52 ◼   ► purchase that already have Wi-Fi routers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:55 ◼   ► and not really looking to buy new ones i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:57 ◼   ► think that yeah I could conceivably see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:59 ◼   ► the technology being built into it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:01 ◼   ► the future where it's like oh if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03 ◼   ► a cool home guess what it'll act as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:04 ◼   ► google Wi-Fi add on to more and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:07 ◼   ► be golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:07 ◼   ► but i don't think that that was their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:09 ◼   ► MVP you know the other thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11 ◼   ► occurred to me after I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:12 ◼   ► that was my first impression is why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:14 ◼   ► showing me to white boxes that you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:16 ◼   ► in and you know right right there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:19 ◼   ► other thought that occurred to me is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:22 ◼   ► not just in my house but it i think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24 ◼   ► people's houses she might want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26 ◼   ► them in very different spots it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28 ◼   ► like the alexa type devices or the echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:31 ◼   ► type devices lot of people put them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:34 ◼   ► the kitchen for obvious reasons they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36 ◼   ► might put them emi- on my bar sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:39 ◼   ► like a good location and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:42 ◼   ► necessarily where your cable connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:45 ◼   ► is coming in where you could plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:46 ◼   ► into you know by ethernet take just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:48 ◼   ► get the basic eat you know internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:51 ◼   ► signal to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:52 ◼   ► which is probably in your living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54 ◼   ► mmm yeah so I could see that I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:59 ◼   ► makes some sense do you think apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:01 ◼   ► going to have something along these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:02 ◼   ► lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:03 ◼   ► yeah of course I wonder how they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:06 ◼   ► gonna do it and I wonder how imminent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08 ◼   ► is because at this point at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10 ◼   ► now the Indians later than next year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:13 ◼   ► would be shocked right I'm making I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:16 ◼   ► don't think it's this year right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:18 ◼   ► I don't think it's this year either i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:20 ◼   ► think it maybe maybe like a march thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:22 ◼   ► next year where there's already really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:25 ◼   ► was going to be new ipads in march right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27 ◼   ► yeah they make some sense i mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:30 ◼   ► gotta you know if you look so many the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:33 ◼   ► max hasn't been updated in so many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35 ◼   ► that I you know later this year is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:37 ◼   ► to be mac time later this month maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:39 ◼   ► even but the that's all the rumors you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:42 ◼   ► know but i don't see that it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:45 ◼   ► packed to put it in here and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47 ◼   ► see them setting it up in spring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:51 ◼   ► then selling it into summer and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:54 ◼   ► becomes like the big Christmas item [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:56 ◼   ► because it's like oh you have an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:57 ◼   ► this works great with it or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59 ◼   ► whatever the case may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:00 ◼   ► yeah and you know they're obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02 ◼   ► going to be first echo is going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04 ◼   ► credit for being first apples often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07 ◼   ► first you know it's you know did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:10 ◼   ► know depending on how your perception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:13 ◼   ► what a smartphone is they were either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:15 ◼   ► very late to smartphones or if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:18 ◼   ► the first one to come out with the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:19 ◼   ► real smartphone right and maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:22 ◼   ► that so yet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:24 ◼   ► yeah I'm sorry guys well I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26 ◼   ► that you know the it looks weird though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:30 ◼   ► now that they're behind more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32 ◼   ► company in this regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34 ◼   ► yeah well I can't say that I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:38 ◼   ► and I think you you can see if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40 ◼   ► the same experience and maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:41 ◼   ► different one than me but i'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:43 ◼   ► see reworks a hell of a lot better when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:44 ◼   ► it can hear you and the iphone is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:48 ◼   ► good listening device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:51 ◼   ► at all like really bad unless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:54 ◼   ► really quiet which is why people there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:56 ◼   ► all these jokes about Cirie not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:58 ◼   ► understanding your Baba but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00 ◼   ► know Apple built their own voice team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02 ◼   ► because they weren't really happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:03 ◼   ► the way the voice was being interpreted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:05 ◼   ► by this nuance which is what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:08 ◼   ► using the filter 19 they made their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10 ◼   ► software and when you couple that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:13 ◼   ► four microphones like with the air pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:16 ◼   ► and you have two sets of being forming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:18 ◼   ► you don't be lightly beamforming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20 ◼   ► microphones combined with a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:23 ◼   ► of you know bone conduction a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:26 ◼   ► of accelerometer to say oh you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:27 ◼   ► moving you know it's vibrating you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:29 ◼   ► talking like these signals that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:31 ◼   ► picking up and saying hey you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:33 ◼   ► to community let's go right let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:35 ◼   ► listen carefully and let me filter out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:37 ◼   ► the other noise and cancel all that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39 ◼   ► it is really reliable I mean like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41 ◼   ► Serie commands that I give them my ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43 ◼   ► pods are incredibly rarely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45 ◼   ► misinterpreted you know what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:47 ◼   ► after that is a whole nother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:48 ◼   ► conversation right but the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50 ◼   ► picking up of the voice is very good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:53 ◼   ► that's the echoes secret sauce and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:55 ◼   ► has seven microphones in it it's being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:58 ◼   ► beam forms those the audio coming in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:01 ◼   ► isolate that audio from other audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03 ◼   ► which is why i can understand my kid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05 ◼   ► know and why you can understand me from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:07 ◼   ► over facing away from it all took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:10 ◼   ► towards the stove away from it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12 ◼   ► you know kitchen 15 feet away and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15 ◼   ► it still picks it up just fine and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:17 ◼   ► my timer you know so i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:18 ◼   ► there's like some technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:19 ◼   ► advancements there that will make Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:22 ◼   ► you know kind of react and be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:25 ◼   ► responsive that I think people aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:27 ◼   ► you know picking up on quite yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:29 ◼   ► will once it launches but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:31 ◼   ► that's got to be like you if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34 ◼   ► echo if you ask Alexa or the echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:37 ◼   ► something and she doesn't get it or she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:39 ◼   ► doesn't hear you you feel like a dope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41 ◼   ► right like you feel like a real idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:43 ◼   ► like talking to nothing when nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:45 ◼   ► responds like the adoption of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:48 ◼   ► things is really going to depend on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50 ◼   ► man answering you because the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:51 ◼   ► that sort of a suspension of disbelief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:57 ◼   ► you know that you've gotta a person on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5937">TS</a>]

01:39:00 ◼   ► the other end of that artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:02 ◼   ► intelligence that wants to talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:04 ◼   ► is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:04 ◼   ► broken it makes you feel dumb and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:08 ◼   ► don't like to feel that way so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:09 ◼   ► that once you have hardware that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:11 ◼   ► really with concrete surety pick you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:15 ◼   ► listen to you and at least give you some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:17 ◼   ► response even say oh I can't help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19 ◼   ► you know I think it's definitely gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21 ◼   ► be interesting and I think the Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23 ◼   ► some stuff to offer their that isn't yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:25 ◼   ► public you know I i think that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27 ◼   ► components of Syria that people have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:29 ◼   ► seen because Apple has chosen not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:31 ◼   ► expose them that will be very surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:34 ◼   ► when they are actually you don't rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:38 ◼   ► out or made available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:41 ◼   ► well that sounds to me like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:42 ◼   ► something i'm nothing done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:46 ◼   ► I have to say I it's funny because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:49 ◼   ► could talk to you because you and I both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:50 ◼   ► have these quote-unquote pre-production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:53 ◼   ► air pods so we can compare and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:55 ◼   ► else is still left to speculate on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:57 ◼   ► the experience is like the longer i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5997">TS</a>]

01:39:58 ◼   ► with them the more i love them and i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5998">TS</a>]

01:40:02 ◼   ► miss having playback controls on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6002">TS</a>]

01:40:05 ◼   ► thing that I can like triple click to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07 ◼   ► like fast-forward 30 seconds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:09 ◼   ► something like that but not too much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:13 ◼   ► you can use Siri to say next track and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:18 ◼   ► it works really well and there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:19 ◼   ► delay it takes a little bit longer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:22 ◼   ► clicking a button but not so much that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:25 ◼   ► mind it the one thing i miss on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:27 ◼   ► pods compared to the my either any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:32 ◼   ► previous headphones I've had that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:33 ◼   ► had some kind of controls on the wires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:35 ◼   ► is the volume control because you try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:38 ◼   ► you have to use your phone to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40 ◼   ► volume or your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:43 ◼   ► you can't even use Siri like I tried it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:45 ◼   ► you DoubleTap and said Cirie turn it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:47 ◼   ► two clicks and she says I can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:49 ◼   ► for you if you haven't if you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:52 ◼   ► apple watch where you have your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:54 ◼   ► watch on its again I always do when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56 ◼   ► running you start to get used to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:58 ◼   ► and it's like that's where you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:00 ◼   ► but even there it's like if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02 ◼   ► listening to overcast it's like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:04 ◼   ► first term my watch up I've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:07 ◼   ► workout app is going and I've gotta tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:09 ◼   ► a couple times and I've got to tap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:10 ◼   ► side button to get to the playback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:12 ◼   ► controls so you just can't just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:14 ◼   ► the watch and tap tap to make it louder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:17 ◼   ► because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:18 ◼   ► you know I'm gonna noisy part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:20 ◼   ► city and there's more traffic but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:22 ◼   ► than the volume control i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:24 ◼   ► airport's better than my any previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:27 ◼   ► headphones that I've used with my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:29 ◼   ► in every single record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:31 ◼   ► yeah it's great i mean obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33 ◼   ► number one question is always does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35 ◼   ► fall out the answer is no and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:36 ◼   ► refuse to believe you because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:38 ◼   ► just nothing to pull them out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40 ◼   ► there is no mass there's no cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41 ◼   ► attached you know they they have little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:44 ◼   ► very little mask themselves and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:46 ◼   ► when i get sweaty and I wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:47 ◼   ► doing running on the treadmill or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:49 ◼   ► whatever it doesn't you know it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:51 ◼   ► they say i wouldn't recommend them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:53 ◼   ► work out here but that's why they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6113">TS</a>]

01:41:54 ◼   ► the beats right but they are pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:56 ◼   ► and so I know something i have a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:58 ◼   ► who's like in love with the earpods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:00 ◼   ► raised like before the earpods no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:03 ◼   ► headphones fit my ears right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:05 ◼   ► know maybe he's weird and maybe we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07 ◼   ► all not weird or whatever but he loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09 ◼   ► them so he's like super super stoked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:12 ◼   ► get the the air pods because he loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:15 ◼   ► the shape but I i have people talk to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:18 ◼   ► on the exact opposite spectrum where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:19 ◼   ► they just don't fit their ears at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:22 ◼   ► you know they earpods the regular your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24 ◼   ► pants and I'm like I tell him flat out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:26 ◼   ► looked at if those don't fit your ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28 ◼   ► you know these are not gonna fit either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:31 ◼   ► you know so don't go there it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:34 ◼   ► worth it right over the spending the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36 ◼   ► money or try mon or whatever here try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:38 ◼   ► these on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:39 ◼   ► but other than that fit question like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41 ◼   ► most people just are really excited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:44 ◼   ► I honestly have not a whole lot of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:46 ◼   ► things to say they're loud they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:48 ◼   ► crispy like they sound good i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:50 ◼   ► personally the moment the sound quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:52 ◼   ► is a little bit better than you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:55 ◼   ► other pod and yeah i agree with you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:58 ◼   ► volume and forward and back track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:00 ◼   ► controls my biggest peeve and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:03 ◼   ► could find a way to do that with touch i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:04 ◼   ► would be that would be set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:06 ◼   ► yeah like if they could do is keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:08 ◼   ► double click for Cirie and maybe let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:11 ◼   ► that you assigned triple and quadruple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:13 ◼   ► tap I don't think like a single tap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:16 ◼   ► hold maybe if they can detect a hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:18 ◼   ► I don't know you know like if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:21 ◼   ► detect oh you didn't release your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:22 ◼   ► from it seems like they could but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:24 ◼   ► is the accelerometer but it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26 ◼   ► loss for me only con for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:28 ◼   ► and in and your mileage is going to vary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:30 ◼   ► outfit i don't know what to tell you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:32 ◼   ► if you know i'm with you if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:34 ◼   ► either can abide by the wired your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:38 ◼   ► bought earpods from apple or you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:40 ◼   ► like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:41 ◼   ► you're going to love the air pops whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:44 ◼   ► and it's like I'm like the idea i'm at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:48 ◼   ► the point already where the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:49 ◼   ► having a wire connecting my headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51 ◼   ► to my phone it seems preposterous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53 ◼   ► oh my god it feels so annoying it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:56 ◼   ► annoying it's something like so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:59 ◼   ► the bluetooth have a bluetooth setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:01 ◼   ► beats the over ears that annoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:04 ◼   ► cancellation that I've used for airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:06 ◼   ► flights and then i have the bose like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:08 ◼   ► the you know quite see 25-year the qc25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:12 ◼   ► whatever they are right the quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:14 ◼   ► comfort inn which are nice and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:16 ◼   ► have a set of wireless jaybird x2's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:19 ◼   ► which technically still have a wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:21 ◼   ► between them but the workout one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23 ◼   ► coming to the beach configuration you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:25 ◼   ► know the workout yes but the Jaybirds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:26 ◼   ► are great they're like a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:28 ◼   ► set of work out your wireless earbuds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:30 ◼   ► but the way that these work i mean even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:33 ◼   ► though other ones the other stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:34 ◼   ► goes in your ear i have never been true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:37 ◼   ► you know hugely fun i have a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:39 ◼   ► those here's I don't know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:41 ◼   ► familiar with every startup called here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:43 ◼   ► and space are a I think just here like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:47 ◼   ► hea are ok um and they're the startup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:51 ◼   ► it's not a headphone it's a microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:54 ◼   ► that takes the audio coming in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:58 ◼   ► filters it for you so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:00 ◼   ► augmented ears like cyborgs ears so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:04 ◼   ► plug them in they have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:06 ◼   ► microphone on the outside and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:07 ◼   ► grabbed the sound and process it and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6307">TS</a>]

01:45:11 ◼   ► it into your ears so like let's say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:13 ◼   ► go to a concert and you want to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:14 ◼   ► down the volume you put your here's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:16 ◼   ► and you just grab your iphone and go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:19 ◼   ► do and it turns on the exterior volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:21 ◼   ► it's pretty while thats crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:24 ◼   ► no no I love them and it's like you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:26 ◼   ► you're at a place where like you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6326">TS</a>]

01:45:28 ◼   ► got i went to see Hamilton right I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:30 ◼   ► stuck up on that rafters like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:32 ◼   ► but I just got really lucky and got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:34 ◼   ► affordable ticket before it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:35 ◼   ► exploded but you could you put those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37 ◼   ► things in and you can just you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:39 ◼   ► filter out the people around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:41 ◼   ► as they're talking quieter and just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:43 ◼   ► up the louder noises which is the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:45 ◼   ► you know speaking from the stage and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:47 ◼   ► feels like the right in front of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:48 ◼   ► it's actually pretty crazy cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:50 ◼   ► technology but those are the the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:52 ◼   ► that I've had the most experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:54 ◼   ► just sitting in the ear and i can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56 ◼   ► you they feel like you feel them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:57 ◼   ► there there you know and maybe they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6357">TS</a>]

01:45:59 ◼   ► get lighter and better over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:00 ◼   ► this is just a start-up but the air pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:03 ◼   ► are totally different bag because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:04 ◼   ► they're so light there so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:07 ◼   ► they're not even there you really forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6367">TS</a>]

01:46:08 ◼   ► you're wearing them and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:10 ◼   ► throwing those in picking out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:12 ◼   ► case and throwing them in is just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:14 ◼   ► amount of freedom there is is insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:16 ◼   ► it's really nice and the battery life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6376">TS</a>]

01:46:18 ◼   ► for me has been amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:20 ◼   ► I almost never remember to charge the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22 ◼   ► damn thing and the case was still at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:24 ◼   ► twenty-eight percent and the headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:26 ◼   ► for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:27 ◼   ► hundred percent so anyway can't wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:29 ◼   ► everybody else to get him but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31 ◼   ► the longer i use them more bigger fan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:33 ◼   ► am before we wrap up anything else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:36 ◼   ► want to talk about you want to join a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:37 ◼   ► quick drop your guess as to who's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:40 ◼   ► buy Twitter and disney yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:43 ◼   ► there's this is equal so we reported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:46 ◼   ► that disney was looking right so we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48 ◼   ► asked around and we heard yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:50 ◼   ► disney is looking at it has been looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:51 ◼   ► for a while we were we were pretty close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:54 ◼   ► on doing it and then I think worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56 ◼   ► somebody scripts but that's fine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:57 ◼   ► know stuff happens but anyway we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6417">TS</a>]

01:47:00 ◼   ► it the disney side of thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:03 ◼   ► there's a lot of pluses and negatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05 ◼   ► and it's just like worlds collide for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:07 ◼   ► right because i'm a huge fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6427">TS</a>]

01:47:09 ◼   ► company know what they've done in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:11 ◼   ► historical methodology these days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:14 ◼   ► can't be a fan because I'm we report on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16 ◼   ► various aspects of the company so more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18 ◼   ► just like it you know fascinated with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:20 ◼   ► right um but I am fasting with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:23 ◼   ► aspects of that company from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:25 ◼   ► they're the movies to the to the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:28 ◼   ► business to the parks and and on so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:31 ◼   ► and so forth right but i think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:34 ◼   ► there are some real easy alignments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:38 ◼   ► there's some real hard cliffs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:41 ◼   ► yes to that happening and I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:44 ◼   ► know which one would win out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:45 ◼   ► the biggest the biggest one which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:47 ◼   ► mentioned in our story about it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:51 ◼   ► twitter is supposed to be agnostic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:54 ◼   ► when it comes to media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:55 ◼   ► companies right aside from special deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:57 ◼   ► like they come within a foul or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6477">TS</a>]

01:47:59 ◼   ► to broadcast stuff but they're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:00 ◼   ► to be like oh hey we did this with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:02 ◼   ► NFL we can do with you too but disney's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:04 ◼   ► a huge media company so if they buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:06 ◼   ► Twitter are they isolating it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6486">TS</a>]

01:48:10 ◼   ► rest of the media landscape and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12 ◼   ► probably the biggest like and check into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:15 ◼   ► my column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6495">TS</a>]

01:48:16 ◼   ► I've been saying for years that one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18 ◼   ► the most amazing things about Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:19 ◼   ► that I think people overlook is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6499">TS</a>]

01:48:21 ◼   ► ubiquitous the ids are for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:25 ◼   ► are famous like if you watch sports or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:28 ◼   ► you watch news and i watch both sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:30 ◼   ► and special election year i watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:32 ◼   ► news when people come on to commentate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:34 ◼   ► on you know who won the debate or who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:36 ◼   ► what do you think about buck showalter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:37 ◼   ► not putting Zach Britton the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6517">TS</a>]

01:48:41 ◼   ► yeah they tell you the twitter name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43 ◼   ► everybody who's on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:44 ◼   ► they'll say you know here's Jimmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:46 ◼   ► Rollins for piano former shortstop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48 ◼   ► here's his twitter name everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50 ◼   ► twitter name is up there does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:51 ◼   ► happen does does TNT sports put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:55 ◼   ► twitter handles up for these people when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6535">TS</a>]

01:48:57 ◼   ► twitter is owned by the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6537">TS</a>]

01:48:58 ◼   ► also owns ESPN yeah right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:01 ◼   ► exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03 ◼   ► I you know and that's a lot of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:04 ◼   ► that's a lot of the value in Twitter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:06 ◼   ► me i don't know quite how you connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:08 ◼   ► that you be qu d and this sort of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:11 ◼   ► is the default you know Facebook would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6551">TS</a>]

01:49:13 ◼   ► love to have that but they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:14 ◼   ► the twitter at names is a huge thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6554">TS</a>]

01:49:17 ◼   ► it's a way to say hey if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6557">TS</a>]

01:49:19 ◼   ► connect to this person online you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:21 ◼   ► on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6561">TS</a>]

01:49:22 ◼   ► yeah that's a huge part of the value I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24 ◼   ► don't know how you quite connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:25 ◼   ► making money but it certainly is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:27 ◼   ► the value because to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29 ◼   ► fundamentally the thing that's valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:31 ◼   ► is attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:32 ◼   ► I you know I've this is the central John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:35 ◼   ► Gruber central theory of the media is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6575">TS</a>]

01:49:38 ◼   ► that attention attention more than money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:40 ◼   ► is that is the foundation currency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6580">TS</a>]

01:49:42 ◼   ► because it's the one thing that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:44 ◼   ► a limit to each person x the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6584">TS</a>]

01:49:47 ◼   ► hours a day that they're awake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:49 ◼   ► that's the total amount of attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:50 ◼   ► that's possible twitter has a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6590">TS</a>]

01:49:53 ◼   ► and yeah I don't hate connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:57 ◼   ► monetization but it's got to be possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6597">TS</a>]

01:49:59 ◼   ► and i could see Disney doing it but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6599">TS</a>]

01:50:02 ◼   ► I i have the same fear as you where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04 ◼   ► feel like they could they could kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:06 ◼   ► Golden Goose because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:08 ◼   ► just by buying it it takes away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:11 ◼   ► ubiquity of the president's that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:13 ◼   ► have yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:16 ◼   ► the funny thing is that Twitter shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:18 ◼   ► himself in the foot from almost day 1 by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:20 ◼   ► obeying the industry's metrics yeah I by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:25 ◼   ► treating the Mau as the god of all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:29 ◼   ► product decisions and and data and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:32 ◼   ► had realized or recognized or embraced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:35 ◼   ► early on its nature as a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:40 ◼   ► people to have a strong identity and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:43 ◼   ► contribute to a conversation but also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:47 ◼   ► place that welcomes passive viewership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:50 ◼   ► in its doing that now are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6650">TS</a>]

01:50:53 ◼   ► reposition itself as that now but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:56 ◼   ► hard to do that right you can't you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6656">TS</a>]

01:50:58 ◼   ► gonna sell an advertiser on the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:00 ◼   ► that okay we only have three more 280 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6660">TS</a>]

01:51:02 ◼   ► million users or whatever but those turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:05 ◼   ► 80 million users are creating you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:08 ◼   ► billion users worth of content right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:11 ◼   ► then that it's hard to like sell that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:14 ◼   ► a package if you have it that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6674">TS</a>]

01:51:16 ◼   ► been your your premise from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:17 ◼   ► beginning and that's it's rough we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:20 ◼   ► you you're you're treating these logged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22 ◼   ► out users trying to now say hey these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:25 ◼   ► are valued like the viewer on ESPN is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6685">TS</a>]

01:51:29 ◼   ► seeing the tweet like that still value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:32 ◼   ► right it's still attention and still all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:35 ◼   ► that stuff but yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:36 ◼   ► monetization is a huge problem there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:38 ◼   ► because it's like how do you connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:39 ◼   ► those disparate entities beyond ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:42 ◼   ► tracking and and that sort of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6702">TS</a>]

01:51:45 ◼   ► hedge I've always felt strongly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:47 ◼   ► that Twitter's biggest place should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6707">TS</a>]

01:51:49 ◼   ► been around identity you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6709">TS</a>]

01:51:51 ◼   ► like Woody your identity online used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:54 ◼   ► be if you were a quote on quote online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:57 ◼   ► person you used to be your URL right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6717">TS</a>]

01:52:00 ◼   ► like if you are early early to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:03 ◼   ► internet you had an email address in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:05 ◼   ► URL or you know one or the other or both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6725">TS</a>]

01:52:08 ◼   ► and today almost nobody has a URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:11 ◼   ► because creating websites is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:13 ◼   ► like too much effort right is too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:16 ◼   ► anxiety to maintain and expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6736">TS</a>]

01:52:20 ◼   ► everything else instead there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:21 ◼   ► sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:21 ◼   ► services that covers so many millions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:23 ◼   ► billions of people that you can create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:25 ◼   ► an identity by simply signing up for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:28 ◼   ► like Twitter and saying this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:29 ◼   ► identity and there are people like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6749">TS</a>]

01:52:31 ◼   ► on facebook but there it's much rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:34 ◼   ► then on Twitter like if you google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:37 ◼   ► almost anybody's name that has any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:39 ◼   ► of basic activity on Twitter their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:41 ◼   ► twitter handle is going to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:43 ◼   ► everything you need to know about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:44 ◼   ► probably you know in in bed at a glance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6764">TS</a>]

01:52:47 ◼   ► like where they were when they do with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:50 ◼   ► treatable day when they talk about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:51 ◼   ► interests you know what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:54 ◼   ► interested in what they don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6774">TS</a>]

01:52:56 ◼   ► you could go one level deeper look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6776">TS</a>]

01:52:57 ◼   ► their favs to see kind of what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6777">TS</a>]

01:53:00 ◼   ► tastes are in humor or and you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:03 ◼   ► news or you know whatever right or who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:05 ◼   ► they followed cetera but no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:07 ◼   ► network on the planet offers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:09 ◼   ► Facebook doesn't offer that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:11 ◼   ► was based its core base was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:15 ◼   ► networks of people already know each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6795">TS</a>]

01:53:16 ◼   ► other and Twitter's like networks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:18 ◼   ► people that you're strangers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6798">TS</a>]

01:53:20 ◼   ► that don't know each other until you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6800">TS</a>]

01:53:22 ◼   ► until you look at their profile and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:24 ◼   ► the sudden you get a at least a basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6804">TS</a>]

01:53:25 ◼   ► picture of who they are and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:27 ◼   ► play I think is very interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:29 ◼   ► that's something that Disney i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:31 ◼   ► actually has a better ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6811">TS</a>]

01:53:33 ◼   ► understand than a lot of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:35 ◼   ► buyers who might want to treat it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:37 ◼   ► of like a marketing channel you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6817">TS</a>]

01:53:39 ◼   ► or attack that angle of which i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:42 ◼   ► think is a strong for Twitter's teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:44 ◼   ► and I'm not as bullish about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:45 ◼   ► yeah i agree i I don't quite see the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6825">TS</a>]

01:53:49 ◼   ► the dots that connect from here to there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6829">TS</a>]

01:53:51 ◼   ► where we're twitter is a thriving Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6831">TS</a>]

01:53:54 ◼   ► property but I i buy into it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:57 ◼   ► intuition says that there is a path i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6837">TS</a>]

01:54:00 ◼   ► don't know i can't describe it in detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:02 ◼   ► but my intuition says that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:04 ◼   ► path there and that you know may make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:06 ◼   ► you know obviously they could screw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:07 ◼   ► up and it a hundred different ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6847">TS</a>]

01:54:09 ◼   ► that there's potential there that i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:12 ◼   ► more optimistic than just about anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:13 ◼   ► else who's about disney owning Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:15 ◼   ► than just about anybody else has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6855">TS</a>]

01:54:16 ◼   ► named and I almost feel like it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:20 ◼   ► better than Twitter remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:21 ◼   ► independent at this point because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6861">TS</a>]

01:54:23 ◼   ► seems like twitter is I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6863">TS</a>]

01:54:24 ◼   ► that's an option to be honest now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:26 ◼   ► really don't at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6866">TS</a>]

01:54:28 ◼   ► and you know we'll see i think but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:32 ◼   ► smells like it's gonna happen soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6872">TS</a>]

01:54:34 ◼   ► it just seems like boy there's and I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:36 ◼   ► reports every couple days about progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:38 ◼   ► being made on this and action on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6878">TS</a>]

01:54:40 ◼   ► Twitter's board part on a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6880">TS</a>]

01:54:42 ◼   ► Twitter's board to start you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:43 ◼   ► listening two bids and doing the math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:46 ◼   ► and stuff like that right i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6886">TS</a>]

01:54:48 ◼   ► what you end up with is you have you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6888">TS</a>]

01:54:51 ◼   ► the monetary and the math side of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:53 ◼   ► then you have the the how does it fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:58 ◼   ► like this it's a distraction right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6898">TS</a>]

01:55:00 ◼   ► because when your company's biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6900">TS</a>]

01:55:02 ◼   ► disney and you have a big pot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6902">TS</a>]

01:55:03 ◼   ► to play with or debt you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6903">TS</a>]

01:55:06 ◼   ► can borrow on 22 kind of by what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:09 ◼   ► want and make your own choose your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6909">TS</a>]

01:55:12 ◼   ► destiny it a at some point becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:14 ◼   ► question of is this additive or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:17 ◼   ► subtractive like is it a distraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:19 ◼   ► which sure we could buy it we can afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6919">TS</a>]

01:55:20 ◼   ► it it makes some sense as a holistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:22 ◼   ► business and we see how we can maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:24 ◼   ► make a little bit better better business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26 ◼   ► of it but is it a distraction and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:29 ◼   ► the like one of the things that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:31 ◼   ► to look at in historically with Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6931">TS</a>]

01:55:33 ◼   ► is their purchase of the channel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:36 ◼   ► will become ABC family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6936">TS</a>]

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01:55:40 ◼   ► boondoggle from the beginning right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6940">TS</a>]

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