00:00:00 ◼ ► I don't even know where to start have you seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► it's just bit me today so it's we're recording sunday September forth so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► we'll probably be out tomorrow and then wednesday it's at three days from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/9">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► yeah is apple's event so we're doing a pre apple event let's round up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► everything before we head to the airport and meet each other in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► show i did on the weekends more and more i tried i spend almost all my time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/22">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► the on the iphone either by phone or iPhone and iPad you know try to stay on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► my office stay off the mac don't really do work and just sort of read on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► phone and I ran into this today and it's one of these things I've heard other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► ah i think it's happened to me before but I've never really paid it too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/41">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► attention and it happens it all of a sudden but i was just browsing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► Twitter open the link and the screen went black on my phone and then I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► held down the power button and it said you have to be nobody gave me the signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► to plug in the power like it though the battery run out but i'm convinced I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/58">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► more than fifty percent battery life left and so I i plugged it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/62">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► I just waited like seriously like a minute and it phone came back on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/67">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► apple logo came on and it had like I don't know sixty percent battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► have you ever seen this i have heard about it is never happened to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/75">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► happening with the Apple watch where all of a sudden looking to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► no power left shut down and then i plug it back in and I always to see him the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/83">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► radios weren't didn't have a good connection and it was just gobbling down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► power but I've had a lot of research brings or springboard crashes but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► never had the the full shutdown Monty right and combined with the confusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/94">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► that the device thinks its low on battery right like I could even see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/99">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► the whole you know s crash that if some kind of software thing that could shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► the phone down but then when it powers back up on its all I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/106">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► why it suddenly thinks it has no battery and i've googled it a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► it's it sounds that sounds like if i go into the apple store that they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/114">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► to take my phone and give me a new one but I don't want to do that before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► no absolutely and it from what I saw to that looked around as well it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► it just it misunderstands its state and then it goes into that panic shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/126">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► to conserve the last bit of battery you have left him all right then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► to get power back it's like okay everything's fine i got the recent we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► good we're good sorry that right like it's seems like a bad problem and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► and I maybe after you know not get back home next week maybe I'll you know go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/141">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► ahead and do it but before I go to San Francisco there's absolutely no way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/146">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► yeah you never know we was funny too it makes me laugh that my year old iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/152">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► 6s is starting to act up literally kissed it's upset knows you're about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/161">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► replace it is going to take it with you to replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► right right it's like the indignity of it of taking it with me doing with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/169">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► hair maybe it was that last year but it's something one of our friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► tweeted that I'm watching my iphone get replaced on the iphone is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► replaced right so among the things that have a leaked in the last week or so is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/185">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► i'll start with I don't know where to start how about we start with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/196">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► boxes that have leaked writer the the packaging and for some reason the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/202">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► that have leaked a lot of them are seemingly destined for Russia this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► because as far as I know they hit us shores yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► really they should all be getting unpacked and and you know on their way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/213">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► interesting that seems like it's too early though right because what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► expect it expect that they're probably gonna go on sale this week and then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/221">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► they're not going to ship until the week after I don't think it's usually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► week after i think last year took an extra week to ship but i think it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► such massive quantities being shipped that they need to build up stock and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► just it's a massive enterprise that takes a few weeks to do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/238">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► I can't even imagine but anyway some of these boxes for the iphone 7 have leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/242">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► and there according to the x and of course the box would be the easiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► thing to fake and everybody acknowledges that so take it with a massive grain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/250">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► salt if you would choose to but the box calls these devices the iphone 7 in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/255">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► iphone 7 plus and so least surprising names in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/261">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► Papa last year's lease obviously last week's blocks leak was 6 s ii which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/266">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► yeah that was I saw that 1i don't know why that one really looked fake yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/272">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► it's weird there are there are some of these box leaks say that the 88 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► phones include air pod wireless earbuds and some say that they include lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/282">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► earbuds and a lightning to headphone jack adapter so i guess it depends the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/291">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► person taking the box which their preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► that's what they put on the photoshop would you know what do you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► think that these boxes are fake or do you think that they're legit or or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► I i thought it's hard to tell i try to think of what Apple would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► historically they have not been great about including adapters famously when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/307">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► they went from the dock to the to the lightning adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► not only did they not include a lightning adapter in the box they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► not have any available at retail and if you anything happened to the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► lightning cable you had you just totally screwed for a couple weeks and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/321">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► know other adapters they've had day-and-date but they were 20 lockbox 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► box 40 bucks right they were never included in the box so its standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► apple would be nothing in the box but the Lightning your paws but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► we've had a lot of new Apple lately I think that part of it is Apple being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► apple and that they you know there they can be stingy in those ways yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/341">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► they can be what's the word for charging an awful lot of money for seemingly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/346">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► yeah but i do think that the wood lightning in particular there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► strategy involved too which is that if it doesn't ship with adapter it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/359">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► makes it more likely that people will buy new lighting adapter peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/365">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► yeah right get on board with using lightning we don't really want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► use the 30-pin you know will give you will make this available so you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► it if you really need it but in general you should start upgrading your things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/379">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► like a few you know a dock by your bedside or something like that just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/383">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► a lightning one there is no strategy involved with that and it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► different with the headphone jack because what the 30-pin thing was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► proprietary apple thing an apple wanted to reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► sit and it still isn't replace I was just in a hotel this week that still had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/399">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► the 30-pin things every time it's more and more now it's it's you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/403">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► starting to see some which is much smarter which is that they just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/408">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► so you still need your own cable but then whatever phone you have there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► USB thing and you don't need to fiddle with finding a power plug to plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► and you can just plug it right into USB but the 30-pin port still lives on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/420">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► just was in a hotel with them but uh but with the headphone jack there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/425">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► I i do think that this will the iphone shipping without a standard headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/430">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► jack will will press aged a day shift in the industry and at two years from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/434">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► we'll see lots of high-end phones that don't have a standard headphone check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► that it's been awhile like I remember my I had a touch pro HTC touch pro at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/442">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► point and had an android phone at one point this must have been 2008-2009 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/447">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► just didn't have headphone jacks and they had USB and his little breakout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► dongles and that's just what you use but then they all switched back and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► motorola doesn't have a headphone jack and write none of those i think we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► ever move the industry but when Apple does it they just shipped so many phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/462">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► and such volume and you know a couple models that and manufacturers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► accessory makers know that's where a lot of high-value customers are that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► absolutely does move it so I I you know I've written about this i'm fascinated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► by it because and you know I to me it's one of the most interesting stories of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► the summer and I've really enjoyed speculating on it because it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► simple issue right now the phone doesn't have a headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/485">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► what does it mean and so you can go you know there's so much speculation you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/489">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► do about how are they got the wireless that they going to go to lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/493">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► why would they do this why would they do that because the story is so simple it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/497">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► easy to to really go deep on the obsessiveness over it so I've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/502">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► enjoyed the story and I've already actually just as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/507">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► yeah the reaction is absolutely crazy people i mean it seriously I mean I met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/511">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► a guy this week i was traveling and you know just you know what do you do and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/520">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► told him basically what I did obviously never heard of caring fireballer me he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► said it's really interesting and he said so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► and this next question was so is Apple really going to release the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► without headphones check just a random guys making small talk with 45 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► in line to get lunch and that's you know that was just on people's minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/538">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► my favorite is down people who gets angry at people who get angry a sticky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► pickle if these boxes are all true or the ones that get the most true are true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/546">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► it would suggest an answer to a question that I've had for a while which it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► to me that that replacing the Lightning wired I mean that the standard 3.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/560">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► millimeter wired headphone port with a lightning wired headphones is not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/568">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► I mean and it might be there are engineering constraints where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► move that deport from the phone you can use it for something else again it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/580">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► an issue of whether they can make a phone that has all these you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/585">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► looks the way they wanted to look and still have the jack but it's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► if did everything you take out leave space for something else and spaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► precious there's two really good stories that I've heard and I don't know which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► one to put more weight on her whether both are true but one is that for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► kind of waterproofing Apple wants to do removing the headset jack is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► advantage and other phones absolutely do water resistance with the headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► but Apple if you look you know Apple really promotes those epa certification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► and there's all sorts of nano bonding and chemicals that you can do and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► probably are more modern ones now that are really say for a couple years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► that was really nasty stuff and it may just not be on Apple's radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/621">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► yeah and the other one was they don't want this to be a story next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► because next year they wanted to be about the new design and if people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► saying nice new design but where's my headphone jack that's a way where story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/631">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► then if people get the headphone jack anger and away this year and then next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/635">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► year is just smooth sailing into the new design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► yeah I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little bit of column and a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► i'll beat that both of those things may well be true and i think that you've hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/643">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► the nail right on the head in terms of yes there are other devices that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/647">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► been made that have the standard headphone jack and are waterproof and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► maybe you know and i think that Sony has some good ones I samsung they have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/655">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► but they failed us to consumer reports right state right because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► oh right samsung had a bad run another but yeah that was exactly it likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/663">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► consumer report i mean this is it really was a disaster like samsung says this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► phone you know it can be submersed you know it's seriously waterproof Consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/672">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► Reports turned it on prompted tank water shortage of God and it really is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/676">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► of a bullshit standard because the dust egress that's an absolutely cannot have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/680">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► any dust in a vacuum right all go into the phone but the water egress says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/683">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► depending on what manufacturer says so and it also the phone that Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/687">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► tested and certified yeah that was waterproof one consumer reports not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► much so it's it's really a not a very straightforward standard for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► waterproofing part and I do think you know it's one of those things i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► that Apple's not first two waterproofing that there are you know it's only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► same someone to help people have you know whether they actually working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► but they're not first but i do think that Apple has quietly without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/710">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► announcing it been working to make their stuff more waterproof I mean in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/716">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► watch by all accounts is you know not water proof that officially not buy off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/721">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► you know people in the real world it effectively is you know a friend of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/726">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► show Craig Hockenberry and swims with his everyday a lot of people swim with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/731">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► Tim Cook was saying showered with it always yeah exactly and it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/735">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► because the iphone success was re-engineered to be more water resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/740">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► they put a gasket around the entire edge in the sealed all the connections they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/743">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► I was expected phil schiller would at some point retweet somebody who said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/749">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► from the top to the lake it's fine thanks Phil but you don't need to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/753">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► totally quiet about it right so they're not promising it's you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/756">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► under-promise and over-deliver yet and there's not promising anything at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► and still delivering some of it and I think that's where they've been with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/763">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► phone and it sounds like this year they're actually going to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/766">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► promoting its waterproofing the headphone jack could be part of that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► gonna see if it's like ip7 which is what the Apple watches r.i.p eight which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► what the samsung phones are reportedly hitting which is just longer periods or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► deeper summer engine found what we were skipping ahead but there was a mean mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/780">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► what's his name means equal ming-chi kuo report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/788">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► that macrumors picked up that says ipx7 yes which is equivalent to the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/792">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► current watch but he's looking very recently his phone so he should we shall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/799">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► anyway if these both boxes are accurate that some of the phones are shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/804">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► with these air pods and some are shipping with wired lightning headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/809">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► and an adapter it would clearly said if both are true it legit whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/815">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► to say that it's going to be paid upgrade we're here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► I'm mine my guess is you either pay an extra hundred dollars to get their pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/823">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► are you pay an extra hundred and maybe twenty nine dollars although that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► a lot just from the wireless headset seems like a lot of skills like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► had every phone available with lightning or with earpods that's double again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/833">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► amount of phones they already have extra colors they would have extra storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► capacities I don't I think Apple has gotten it is unafraid of lots of it sku [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/841">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► I mean no I the ipad has always been you know bifurcated in it's sort of similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/847">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► way where there's always been cellular and non cellular models of every shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/853">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► color you know every every iPad you can buy comes in the cellular non-secular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/859">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► furnace so something like that sounds like something they're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/865">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► unafraid of you think it would be the higher end ones that have the airpot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► option that's another possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► another possibility would be that if you get if you buy the 32 gigabyte one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/875">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► first we're making a lot of assumptions here yet the rumor is that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/882">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► registered in anyone's going to ship in 3-6 eyes configuration storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► configurations 32 hallelujah 64 16 gigabyte is dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/889">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► thank God let's hope I and then No More 64 will go with a 128 and 256 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/893">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► could see that or maybe the 256 get some sort of but that that seems like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/901">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► like you're seems to me like if they're going to do some in one and some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/908">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► other we might as well let you mix-and-match however you want and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► pricing is always so interesting here like ya hallelujah 16-gigabyte is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► but there are a lot of people enterprise just wanted a dumb client that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► hook up to their b2b website and apps and they would get an eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► gigabyte iphone if they could just get all their employees they just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► cut every possible penny imaginable and we start getting 256 gigabytes I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/928">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► believe they're doubling the density of the memory again which means and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► nice people say you know just include an adapter apple should just add double the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► ram they should just double the storage but all of those incremental more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► expensive and when you have an incredibly margin based business way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► Apple does any additional costs they put that phone comes right out of the margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/946">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► they're trying it for wall street so it's always for them it's in almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► entirely a pricing game right and even the pessimistic view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/953">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► I mean this was again this is chi kuo saying it from the supply chain they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/958">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► saying only 65 million iphones sold in this in the upcoming for the border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/963">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► which would be a steep drop-off from last year where I think it was 80 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► even so 65 million phones so that's a pessimistic take how many new iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/973">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► mostly no I mean obviously that includes whatever old ones they're still selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► but tens and tens of millions of brand-new never before manufactured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► iphone sevens it really does i just saw I don't have a link candy but i just saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/986">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► a story about how global dear and pricing is spiking and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/991">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► specifically attributed to the iphone in a ramp-up that Apple needs to make to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/997">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► make this absurd number of phones so the story is that because Apple has needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► all of this ram for the phones and another one of these last-minute rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► i guess it's not really last minute but it seems to have been reiterated last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► minute is that the iphone 7 plus is going to come with 3 gigabytes of ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► instead of two gigabytes of ram so that just adds up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► it's just lots and lots of ram so apples buying lots of RAM which makes prices go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► up factories that manufacture ram are shifting to the type of ram that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► wants to buy for the iphones to meet that demand which means they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► last 4 pcs and therefore the pc market for ram is going up as a side effect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► the iphone 7 and i forget which year was I know we talked about this before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► the type of ram is also different member for a while using TLS ram and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► using dl i think was still have to get the two names one was multi-layer one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► was day and it was just it was hard to get if you just double the amount of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► better than using the higher one and so they were using technically less less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► expensive ramen higher end phones but that's what allows them to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► double size memories right right so it's my I'm glad I don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► so I my guess is if true if true both are true i did it will be a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► dollars extra to get their pods in the box instead nice round number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► yeah and it kind of makes sense to me to that the adapter would only ship with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► the one that comes with wired headphones where they're saying look if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► ok you know here's your new set of lightning ones and here's your adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► so you can use whatever other ones you want but the future is what wireless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► know and i can see how that would be a big part of the presentation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► wednesday that hey we've you know you know I could just see a slide where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► somebody's got the court all tangled up in that the future is Wireless yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► wonder you because you're just an apple and you did this so well and in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► articles a apple thinks about these things and are they thinking we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► want to get rid of the headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► are they thinking that we want to drive the wireless world and clearly with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► the manager book they decided that we're you know we could they could put more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► than one USBC port but they didn't want to do that they wanted to make a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► that had almost no ports and still a concession for power and might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► use us bc but they clearly message that and was on your show two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► fillers that you know we wanted to make a computer for the wireless world and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► that's what they want to do with the iphone then that is this is the best way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► yeah i think so but I i do wish and you know again who knows which of these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► fake and which are really maybe they're all fake but I still if I had my my wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► my wish would be that they would just go completely wireless and just say every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► single iphone 7 comes with their pods and if you really still want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► this twenty-dollar $19 adapter and I really think that they should do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► but it sounds like from these rumors that they're going to make it an upsell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► I think they need to head a little bit because there's no amount of Q&A or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► savvy even within Apple that can equal millions of people hitting that product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► and they go all in on wireless and there's anything wrong with just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► just be hammered beyond hammered so if they make it one of those things again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► like like the 12-inch MacBook where people go out and buy it's a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► premium product is a self-selecting group and they have a higher tolerance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► they are early adopters and they're willing to sort of struggle with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► technology at first applicant use the first generation as an experiment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► then realize the next generation is where they make that you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► extra leap forward and start cutting off things in the past right and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► convinced I am absolutely convinced that it's the way the future really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► wireless in general you know and I don't know you know who knows what the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► will be on these airports howhow standard they will be in terms of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► bluetooth and how much is you know proprietary like will you be able to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► that Apple earbuds with other devices that use bluetooth headphones i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► know his bluetooth is not great technology and never had been made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► doesn't like water and we're human beings filled with water so they use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► the watch and the watch sometimes doesn't always have the best connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► with bluetooth and it would be great if Apple did have the best of both worlds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► to be a much better proprietary connection that failed down to bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► difficult for other devices or if it could make its own connection right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► you know and cheat if they need to and cheap meeting hey this isn't really as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► per the bluetooths back but if we do it this way it'll be you know it'll work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► yeah everythings do whatever it takes to make it work well worry about how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► it works don't worry about whether you're completely compliant with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► bluetooth 5.000% by the you know by the letter and one thing i like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► Apple has always been a company that doesn't worry about chipset stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► about feature sets it's not and it goes all the way back to that Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► statement where it's not like they have all these wireless chips are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► looking for features to put them into they they really want to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► and they find a technology that can let them do it because it is very few rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► of wireless charging for example so you're still going to have to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► form of cable and maybe they could charge through metal casing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► there's been patents on that I think going back 18 months now but they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► said before that does they don't think that's a great technology in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► power efficiency right now so that that's where not just transitioning a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► wireless for wireless sake is something that they think we're on the cusp of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► they want to help push over and that is to me the one of the most serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► visions of this you know the pain involved in moving away from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► ubiquitous standard 3.5 millimeter jack to something else is the scenario where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► you want to charge while you listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► yeah and it's it sounds to me like from you know that there's not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► any kind of pass through option for lightning that if you're using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► Lightning headphones you're not gonna be able to charge while you listen and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► if you wanna be able to charge while you listen you should get on board and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► yeah and then it brings you on my colleague Daniel better he has the both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► the motorola and the thing is called Brasi whatever the Kickstarter was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► the wireless ambient air pause that sounds very similar to what Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► going to be releasing he still says he can't make it through a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► transcontinental flight like he can't fly from toronto to san francisco on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► with on a charge with those well that's pretty bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► yeah my beats once have i think i could easily make it through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► transcontinental flight but there's probably about pushing element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► well yeah those are also i think if they're the same ones i have they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► wrap around and I think these are actually two independent ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► charge for the case it's unknown how how efficient those power cells are right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► mine minor exactly what you set the wraparound it's gonna be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► what else on the iphone see the other one we can skip right ahead to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► ming-chi kuo yeah thing which it's confusing as hell to me honestly this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► this aspect of it which is that he says they're going to have you're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► rid of space gray and are going to ship to Black's like a matte black and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► he's calling a piano black yeah which is like good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► well you can imagine that good almost like a dress shoe glossy black like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► steel Apple watch black that makes no sense to me it makes no sense at all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► me that they would ship to blacks you know it because it's it it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► sound appellee at all i can see shipping a gray and black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► yeah I could see shipping gold and rose gold right because golden rose gold are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► two different colors where ya black black is black and based on you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► finish it seems very strange and i know that you know when you go to buy a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► if you go to buy a BMW you can get black and it costs at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► but if you want to get the nice black it costs an extra you know a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► thousand dollars it's an upsell whereas I can't see them doing an upsell on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► finish of black now for the iphone 3g I think you could only get the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► plastic if you got the back then a 32 gigabyte model it was only at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► end of the chain but since then they've been very gallant Aryan with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► colors and I know when they did the iphone 5 the space black back then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► was really it's the hardest colored anodized gold is easiest and block is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► the the hardest and chips and what we saw what happened with all the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► five so they went to space great so let them do a thinner coding and a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► resilient finish at the apple watch is a darker version of space gray but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► still space gray and they might have might be trying some new finish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► actually lets them go to a glossy piano-black interesting to see how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► well it holds up and just how many units a manager ship with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► yeah it's just seems strange to me that they would that they would have dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► black and last month's rumor was with space blue so I and this is cooperated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► there's the Japanese site Mac matakara which is always been a pretty you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► pretty good track record of getting some scoops they have the picture picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► that sim trays and they're indeed there's a matte black one and a shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► black one you never know which ones are prototypes and which ones are shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► ore which quantities are doing each and all right it seems they seem to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► like when they don't do radical design differences they do a color difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► and because people are superficial that just as exciting to us as a new design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► like gold was for the 5s and rose gold is for the success and if this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► going to be a big dick here than just adding a new color for the talk will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► yeah I have to say I've never I've space great i mean i'm always always get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► I don't ever want to have an iphone with a white front so i always get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► blackface and so I haven't had a choice in recent years it's always space grey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► like the black ones better i liked like the it was the first iphone 5 even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► it it wore at the edges but I thought that was a good luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► I thought it looked good you know as the bevels faded you know or chipped away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► I had mine reanalyzed entire way you're like military spec and it was just black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► on black like totally blacked out and look great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► yeah didn't you get yours like story but you gotta change to like blue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► I know a couple people got different colors my they didn't want to do pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► block because it is so hard so I just said you know if i send you an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► you can use me as a beta tester and they sent it back and i still have it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► didn't whisks whisks went blue I think I think so yeah in a turban went orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► and was able other people who got them done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► I don't know seems like it seems crazy to me but I am a little surprised i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► that last month there were rumors of a blue one who knows where that came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► but I debt was one of the things I've been wondering about all summer as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► drumbeat of hey basically this looks a lot like the iphone 6 and 6s but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► better you know the biggest cosmetic improvement from what we've seen is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► better antenna lines that the antenna lines are far more place around corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► rather than right across the back but at a glance that fundamental shape but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► thing is pretty much the same so I've always wondered all summer with a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► know entered like you said introduce new colors which is . probably one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► easiest things they could do just knew Anna does anodized colors just to again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► just to get the word new in people minutes to show off they have the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► one it easy to see at a glance that you have the new on the hot around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► ah but it seems like no other are least on the silver gold rose gold front no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► but they could play put black faces on the Golden Rose consultant for phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► I've said that for years that I thought that I still probably wouldn't buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► but I think it'd be a great look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► uh I what about this one I got the pencil in there do you think the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► Apple pencil is going to work with the iphone 7 I so that's a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► technology the the 3d touch uses the distortion of the LED light to measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► the distance now and then it sort of translate that into pressure sensitivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► where the Apple pencil has a much higher screen refresh rate and just so far more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► sensors and has a bunch of technology in the pencil that determines that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► whether they can put both those things together i don't i don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► engineering i mean i would love it i would love to have an iphone with pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► would be like you know field notes that syncs to dropbox right it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► terrific i just don't know if this generations technology is there I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► see it i could see that and I know that you know the the longest-running and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► again none of these in fact what maybe we'll be surprised all of them but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► you know one of the strongest rumors all year long has been that the 5.5 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► plus sized phone is gonna get the two damn camera system and the regular sized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► 4.7 inch phone is not so that's a big big difference we can get actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► should probably hold that for all segments but because that's why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► it's to me the biggest it's these the headphone jack is overshadowing the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► fact that the camera thing I think is is what is bigger news take absolutely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► bigger news historically but given that they're already putting a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► significant difference between the two sizes i could see like pencil support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► only being in the five and not being a 4.7 and it makes a little bit more sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► because it is more of that like is it a big phone or is it a tiny tablet sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► sighs yeah and going back and we'll talk about that later too but with the galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► note that was always the biggest redeeming quality for me was it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► world's smallest particle wacom tablet you can hold in your hand and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► everything you could have a wacom tablet that's hugely advantageous to people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► real estate and people and technical support and in all sorts of industries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► in these people who like to draw i would love to have without having any no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► not hard to carry an ipad around without having to carry and i pad around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► you all right so i don't know i could see that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► I linked within the other day and it was a an interview with Tim Cook back in May [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► that I didn't cross my radar until just the other day but he was in India and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► was interviewed on india's NDTV and I asked him a question about Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► saying you guys just introduced this pencil but Steve Jobs said if you see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► stylist they blew it you know i was out on your mind and Tim Cook says well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► launched a pic pencil not a stylist first of all there's a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► which I love the answer that there's a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► just because they call it a pencil and the things that people are doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► this pencil I think Steve would have loved he loved to help people create and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► if you've ever seen what can be created on an iphone or an ipad with that pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► yeah on now it was obviously a verbal interview there is no comma after iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► in this transcript of it but some of the I I said either way he missed misspoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► either he momentarily forgot that the pencil doesn't work with iphone or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► forgot that it only works with the upcoming iPhone and mistaken late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► slipped and suggested that that's that's forthcoming you that either way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► misspoke couple of readers have have pointed out that you could parse this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► meaning just that people what what can be created on an iphone comma or an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► with that pencil is really unbelievable right if you pause in a certain way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► you're not saying that you can use the pencil with the iphone and ipad you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► saying you could do creative stuff with an iphone and you create stuff on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► ipad with the pencil so that's possible but given that the question was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► specifically about the pencil and the Steve Jobs lying about if you see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► stylist they blew it it it doesn't read that doesn't that argument doesn't hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► absolutely and I think you again people love to misinterpret steve jobs and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► think what he was trying to say there is that it requires it if that's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► they had those terrible resistive screens and stylist was really one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► the only ways to be functional with those and so this is a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► different discussion but Apple seldom in his knee is not efficient happens up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► seldom makes a technology that it only intends for one thing left of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► technologies like the force touch like 3d touch i think we're going to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► true tone and the MP DC ip3 displays all that stuff ends up for going all across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1974">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► their entire product line because it makes their products work better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► it's just more efficient use of the technology that they create they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► have to pick one that goes first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► yes right yeah i have always thought that that if you see a stylist they blew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► it thing is people really like that one around as like an example of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► Steve Jobs said that Apple you know either would have done if he was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► here or ways that Steve Jobs was was wrong or whatever however you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► put it on and I've always thought that was erroneous because I've always I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► always took that answer and I forget the context of the question i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► but that was the introduction the first iphone keynote I but whatever it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► was exactly what you said where the gist of it is he was talking about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► palm pilot typing devices or the even the Newton you know to just name throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► one of apple's products back at it devices where you had to use the stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► not devices where you could uh yeah and i think you know one of the ways that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► would certainly know that is he certainly knew how popular the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► cintiq tablets are adding Pixar and probably would you know in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► departments with an apple too but you know he certainly knows that there's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► well that firsthand that there's a place for a stylist as an optional input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► device it is a huge between something being required for the usage of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► product is something being adding value to the usage of your product and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► didn't live in a time where there was that pencil and could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► flabbergasted and delighted by healthy solar didn't he also i thought did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► I know he badmouth small tablets to yes shave your fingers or wiggle your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► fingers down right and he was specifically talking about tablets where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► the user interface was struck down from a certain size whereas when Apple shrunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► down the ipad mini they they kept the touch targets at exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► physical dimensions as they are they're smaller than on the bigger ipad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► they're actually exactly the same pixels-per-inch as the iphone yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► it's super yummy the one of my favorite things about Steve Jobs is always that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► itunes story where he just did not want itunes on Windows but he was smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► enough to know that he didn't have all the answers and he's basically you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► fine fine fine and even you know go do it but if you screw up you're dead to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► and they went and it was successful and my understanding is that originally they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► were going to have a blown-up interface on the ipad and he got fought tooth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► nail over and they actually had time to make a two-column interface and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► got turned around and eq read an article and brought it to Steve and bought one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► of the tablets and we really should do this is going to be a category and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► he was resistant to it but he was smart enough to know that he didn't have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► the answers he hired good people and he trusted them and they had that team had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► to turn around the ipad mini i think was the fastest product turnaround they ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► did and they were lucky that it could shrink it down and it just happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► work perfectly because the size matched with us what the DPI was on the iphone i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► think we have a huge problem with that had worked out for them right though and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► the quote that he had where he was clearly wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► I mean approve ibly wrong in hindsight and nobody ever throws it out an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► in its bizarre because this is one wave is absolutely wrong was that the antenna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► gate question and answer thing after the intended gate press conference and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► had the question and answer thing he here's a quote here where he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► about with some of the bigger phones that were coming out from like samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► galaxy and you know the 5-inch phones and he said no one's gonna buy a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► phone that's so big you can't get your hands around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► yeah no one's gonna buy that no one's gonna watch video on an ipod ok I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► there's a few that i think a lot of times where no one reads books anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► and then he comes out with ibooks is that he wasn't afraid to change his mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► when he was presented with a better argument and they had forget it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► iphone 4 iphone 4s but they had a large screen in that generation buddy if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► ever if you go back and feel how heavy your iPhone 4 and 4s is and how heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► that would have been and the display technology I mean anyone who had an HTC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► Thunderbolt back then that that things suck the battery lasted about three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► hours early Samsung's they use that pentile display technology which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► terrible and they they were willing to make these concessions order to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► those big hot LTE radios they had to make the phone bigger and then you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► as well put a bigger screen on but you don't have good screen technology so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► spin thailand all these cascading ramifications of those decisions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► they were willing to suck it up and make with endless variations of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► phone where Apple's stuck to making one funny here for a very long time even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► called the bigger phones Sommers Miss like this resonator phones ya heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► so yeah there is sort of an argument you made that I think in 2010 there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► still the battery life wasn't there to do it but I do think though that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► proof shows i think apple institutionally was caught a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► flat-footed at the popularity of the bigger size phones and they buy iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► the plus-size iphone models were I'd by all accounts a little bit late to market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► I think it's you know it took everybody by surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► yeah and I still I think to them that's just adding addressable markets like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► saturated a 20 then they went to verizon a saturated north america and europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► they went to China Mobile they saturated under 4 inch displays and they went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► 4.5 and 5.5 and they did very progressively and they had their tik-tok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► cycle and it just landed iphone 6 was the was the most convenient time and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► the best technology for them to do it and they be weighted they have happily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► waited even that we even when it's hurt them to do what they think is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► absolutely so what do you think you're going to do two shades of black i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► usually dismiss this kind of stuff and then like that i had your early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► they're going to do the goal because they were calling it Kardashian which to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► me was endlessly hilarious and then the rose gold it just seemed inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► based on them already shipping a wife that had that color right the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► space black apple watch a lot of people really love that both you and I have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► and it's a great look and I've joked that I really would love a space black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► iphone so i know i have no one to blame but myself if I get one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► yeah I wonder if that's the president you know I don't know if you go a space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► face greater space or piano black John off the top of my head i guess the piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► yeah i guess i'd get that glossy finish I don't know I mean I do have the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► know we you and I both have the luxury of will get to look at them firsthand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► the hands-on area after the event before we make the decision you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► judge but because judging like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► finish is the hardest thing to do oh not looking at the actual device because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► product photography makes everything look great right they did I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► either gonna show you a product shot of of the flat black that makes it look bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► it's all gonna look great but you can't really tell you know how they compare to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► each other unless you see him from first hand in my opinion and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► they could do a stainless steel phone with the dlc coating which is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► biggest advantages of that color right so we'll see i don't know i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► it just seems very strange to me I'd rather thought that occurred to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► that may be that the one that they're calling flat black or regular black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► might just be the new space grey yeah and then at least product marketing wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► are or if they give it a new name for a new gray but call it gray and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► of a sudden instead of two blacks you've got gray and like I think it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► again because it is just so hard to anodized black it will be spaced great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► but it'll be closer to what the apple watch basically is and what the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► iphone space gray is all right right yeah well we'll see i think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► wraps me up on iphone stuff is everything else on iphone talk about not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► yeah well let's hold that let's hold that because it's a big enough deal so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2434">TS</a>]
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00:41:55 ◼ ► on your Mac gets uploaded to their server they have iphone apps android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2515">TS</a>]
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00:42:30 ◼ ► everything onto a hard drive and overnight it to you by fedex it couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► I use this i recommend it to everybody I'm not just saying it because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► sponsor but i'm happy to have them as a sponsor because i do recommend it so go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► to backpage.com / daring fireball if you haven't signed up yet do yourself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► favor and do it all right the camera let's talk about this camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► yes I'm sick about it well you've been talking about it for what two years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► two years two years ago I heard but I didn't hear two years ago I didn't hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► that they were only going to put it in the monster fun but i did here and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► sounds like this is where they're going and I think the invitation i'm not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► don't like to read too much into the the titles or the pictures on the invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► but the invitation this time so clearly looks like a reference to what they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► the camera terminologies boca where it's the the the japanese word that means the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► visual quality of the out-of-focus parts of of a photograph so if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► narrow depth of field on a photograph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► what's the blur what does the blur look like the out-of-focus stuff and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► what you know the the that invitation to this event looks like a reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► that because it looks like a very attractive out-of-focus i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► like lights or something like that and i think a lot of this just goes down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► apple managing their costs say it's the same thing memory memory is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► hundred dollars more expensive when you double it but that's just an easy thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► people understand small medium and large and the camera module is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► more expensive so it's easier for them to eat the cost of that camera put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► the already 100-dollar because it's bigger phone then they put in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► yeah and you know what I've heard two years ago and it sounds like exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► what they're shipping is it's effectively two cameras that act as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► single unit and through software on create images so two cameras take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► pictures at different focal lengths one is wider wider and Langille one is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► telephoto and then in software it just itches the two images from the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► cameras together to create one image and it might even have these light field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► type things were after the fact you might be able to like change the depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► of field or in a focus point it's interesting because when you hear two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► cameras a lot of companies to put two cameras on phones before and some have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► done it where they have one regular camera and then one black and white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► camera because they want to pull more detail in low light situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► some have a regular lens and a wide angle lens but you have to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► shift between them like with a with a toggle to choose which one you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► to use any one time and others have tried to put the lenses further apart to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► try to get more depth of field information they can sort of do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► artificial or let you do dynamic focus with it where you can pull the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► back and forth and show it differently and it sounds like this is very Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► solution where they're picking two really good cameras and then not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► you do a lot of work but using everything in that 8-10 ship and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► image signal processor sort of intelligently figure out how to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► great image and then give you some control over things like that the field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► and low-light yeah and so you know i mean again this is a long-standing rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► and the fact that a parent fact that this new camera system is only going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► ship on a plus-size model and not the 4.7 inch model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► has been rumored all year but it's not flush it's just it's not no no there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► isn't either is flush the camera bump is still there it is a slightly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► shape that looks like it might be a little bit more graduated instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► just like a harsh you know like more graduated bumped and it's a hard problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► to solve because people don't want heavy phones and to make phones lighter one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► the ways you do that is to make them thinner but cameras really want a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► zx81 depth and if you try to art we've seen this with other manufacturers if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► you try to put you know the higher aperture you try to do other things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► it creates aberration because it just the lens is not good enough at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► depth to do everything that they want from it and Apple up until now has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► really really good about hitting that sweet spot where the aperture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► everything else about the camera comes together to take those really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► everyday photos they're not just know the blacks are crushed the saturation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► not boosted is just tries to reproduce what you see with your naked eye and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► they've been really really good about it i don't think they're gonna change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► anytime soon because that whatever 300-person strong camera team all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► do is shoot photos in a wide variety of situations trying to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► every photo you shoot at a bar when your kids are out playing that under any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► circumstance you get the best photo you can it I i would love to know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► internal deliberations there was over $MONEY shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► I mean because once they broke the seal on it like with the iphone 6 and 6 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► shipping the 6s and 6s plus last year with the camera bump was you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► expected actually right now and that this one the new iphone 7 is still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► to have a pump it's you know it's old news now this is the third year in a row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► but every that first one I would love to know how much internal argument there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► was over we can ship you know what was and what was the bigger argument was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► the bigger argument we should make the phone thicker so that the camera fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► flush or was the argument we should it include a lesser camera that would fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► previous year's ID which is say you have to make the cat we're making the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► this they can you have to fit that camera which is why you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► thought that the iPhone camera didn't really improve that much but getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► camera as good if not better than the previous generation any thinner phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► every year for an absolute miracle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► engineering right but there's two situations where I think ID gets pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► back on heavily and that's antennas you know reception and camera because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► physics it's like that scene in civil war where spider-man goes I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► that shield Falls laws of physics at the planet you they have to they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► absolutely no choice in their choices put a crappy camera chapels not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► do because there is much a camera company now right as they are phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► company or live with the camera bump which might i'm sure everyone in ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► cringes every time they think about it but it's how they got that great camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► and the other practical factor it doesn't help me because I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► using a case but overwhelming with its I i would love to know the percentage i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► would love to know what percentage of iphone users put the phone in the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► and keep it in the case almost all the time because I i would off the top of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► head I'm thinking it's at least eighty percent i'm the only one I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► doesn't use a case it might be even higher I my eighty percent might even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► ridiculously low and if you have a case even the thinnest case I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► like the ones that are just like polyurethane and and are almost more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► just like scratch cards than any other kind of protection are still at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► thickness of the camera bump right so if you have a case there is no camera bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► absolutely i mean everybody in my family every friend that I have every quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► that i have has an iphone in the case i'm the only one walking around that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► way Johnny I've intended right it really might be I wouldn't be surprised if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► more like in the nineties ninety percent and so I lose out you lose out as no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► case i am but no case users but people with the case they get better image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► quality and they don't even I'm sure they don't even know why we're going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► and on for an entire site is about there's a bump on let me take out a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► I'm gonna take a look at forgot I III don't know what I'm gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► Rene is a really good camera but you ate big phones and i really mean and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► even you know i love the iphone SE I mean I didn't buy one personally just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► because I knew that this I didn't it just it just didn't make sense to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► one for six months when I just bought one sec I mean I feel like buying a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► iphone every year is already almost stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► yeah i'm i'm not gonna buy two year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► but boy I sure like the way it feels in my hand holding in my hand right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► sure like the way it feels in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► yeah and I think again this is just a transition period and whether it's next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► year the year after they will be an iphone with eight as largest green and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► as good a camera as the current success seven is going to be it just would in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► casing as small as the se but I my favorite things you know you know i'm an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► avid amateur photographer I care about the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► probably more than anything else on the phone so buying the 4.7 just because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► feels better in my hand a lot better in my pocket but knowing that i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► as good a camera as I would otherwise is going to hurt so the seven will replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► your señor your 6s and a 7 plus will replace your leg over your cannon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► you carry the two phone right i guess i don't know i don't think because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► connected in a sink so I don't know I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► I've been dreading this all I mean I i came to grips with it and I accept it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► and it being on the there are so many rumors you know coming out of the supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► chain that showed pictures that you know only have the dual camera on the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► one so I'm embraced for it but now that it's here it it feels like you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► all year long I've been saying that's a that's a problem for September's John ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► yeah I'm summer John screws of temperature on is his problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► what do you think what do you think you're going to get i've been using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► plus size now since it first came out I have enjoyed by both every year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► occasionally use the smaller size but i just-i work on my iPhone so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► the longer battery life in the bigger screen size is a huge advantage to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► and I've gotten to the point where you know not as well as bull's-eye from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► daredevil pretty I can juggle that thing pretty well now so I kind of forget half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► the time how big it is until I do pick up one of the smaller iphones so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► all set by carry two iphones now anyways I used to do a lot of pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► iphones because just the job that i haven't used to have a regular camera to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► do that and now i just have the other iphone to take the pictures with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► it's you you had a phone and an iphone and i hope i have a subject phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► antenna and a cat capture phone okay you make it so easy now because everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► just it just sinks and it just works together so I can pull out the señor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► the six take photos of you know because setup take photos and then those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► automatically everywhere to put it away and go back to using it i am intrigued I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► I do know this is part of you know why i love the job that i have i am absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► intrigued to see how Apple pitches this onstage because it you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► previous difference between the two size iphone 6 and their success was just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► optical image stabilization on the plus the $MONEY plus $MONEY for the last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► years how to help to optical image stabilization with the iphone 6 it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► for stills and then last year it was in for stills and video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► yeah on and that's no small thing optical image stabilization is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► it definitely means that the plus had a at least slightly better camera then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► regular size but it was a small enough difference that i was easily willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► accept the size that i found more palatable in my pocket and hand whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► now I think the differences is really really significant and I kind of feel if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► it is if if the imaging is as good as i expected to be i think it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► take so much of the event time for the iphone that it's really going to it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► the camera alone if there's no other advertise differences between the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► sizes it's really going to turn the event into more of an iphone 7 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► absolutely and I don't you know I often joke that the people in graphic design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► the other given his aspect they don't have any not disclosed on the products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► are just told to make an invitation but I think it's absolutely fitting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► this year the camera is the subject of of the invitation that don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► that's an accident at all and I one thing i have heard sort of two sides to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► this some curious if you're hearing the same thing there's one side of said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► Apple is absolutely shooting for an SLR and they want to make a camera that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► just way better than a smartphone camera before the other side is we really took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► agents because it's still a camera phone and it doesn't have that huge piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► glass on it and if we push too hard on it's like an SLR people going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► well you know it's not it's not like my cannon with my 70-200 or whatever lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► so that's a really careful balancing act to make people understand that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► way better camera phone but it's still a camera phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► yeah I i heard that thing i heard was when i originally heard about this dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► camera thing two years ago was I heard SLR shooting for SLR quality and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► it still doesn't make any sense to me because I matter what you do what magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► you can pull out of having two different land lenses the sensor size is still so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► yes scared to 35 millimeter full-frame DSLR or even the aps-c or the for micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► four-thirds the other various you know a serious quote-unquote serious camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► sensors those sensors are so much bigger than the tiny little sensor that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► have to use in the phone because of the you know just how small the camera you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► know the actual distance from the lens to the sensor is that there's I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► don't see it i don't see how the you know I think that they can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► emphasize that this is that as good as a standalone point-and-shoot camera but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► don't see how they can start talking about slrs and I agree it's gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► to be like this is the best camera that you can get on a phone but if they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► saying is going to replace your in 5d mark or your sony a whatever mark to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► gonna not yeah and I say SLR as a sort of catch-all phrase for any camera with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► a sensor big enough that there are cameras for that sensor that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► yes right let's just say the catch all I'm saying SLR but what I really mean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► anything where the camera system has detachable lenses that you can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► choose which lends to put on the camera and that include like I said aps-c micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► four-thirds the full-frame 35-millimeter sighs any of those lump them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► I just don't see how they can say that they can compete with that simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► because of the physics of sensor sizes but in terms of the point and shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► don't have detachable lenses i think that they can absolutely say we're as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► good or better because maybe what we lose on on optics of the sensor size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► the lens size we're making up with software absolutely and again for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► they've been very careful so far to Target to target not professionals I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► mean they do show off what professionals to do with it but it's that every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► photo thing and they're also doing super interesting things with the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► they're gonna have that dual lens system but they're also internally they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► going to support raw I think it's for third-party apps only won't be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► camera but you know support raw they'll have that DC ip3 display which is a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► color gamut display and the screens will be able to output that so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► everything from the capture pipeline to the display and across other products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► like the 9.7 inch iPad pro the 27-inch imac that can all display these images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► now and that is not something i think everyone will appreciate immediately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► I think once we started getting these things in our hands everyone who loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► photography is going to be just much more impressed with that with that phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► yeah and the other we need to talk about but the other thing that I i I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► gonna say to sure that none of these ensure things but it's as close to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► sure thing i would bet on it is that it's like you said that is a deep DPI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► CIP CIP three so it's a the higher color gamut range so it displays way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► color and you can definitely if you have the right image you can absolutely see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► the different side by side like you said these you're gonna be able to shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► those images from the camera so you'll see it and then it's also going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► shortly support the the night shift with the other one to town to town to town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► display where it changes that suddenly changes the color temperature of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► display based on the ambient light and I thought that was a giveaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► I thought that it uncharacteristically i thought sure gave up the bag on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► when he talked about it at the the ipad 9.7 you know I've had pro the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► called the baby ipad pro yeah and when he said specifically once you get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► to this you can't you can't go back which to me man it's clearly coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► the iphone in six months and again their technology mean they they don't hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► back there was a rumor that apple holds back technically well as soon as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► can ship something they ship it which is why the baby pro got it and they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► then wait for the iphone but then again that technology's going to propagate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► across their entire range and I think wdc they said that not only do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► support DC ip3 they support the upcoming standard hasn't even wider gamut which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► is 2020 and these are all cinematic standards is what we've been seeing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► movie theaters for a while now so they really care deeply about not just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► photography but every every aspect of the photography along the entire block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► yeah I so I think that's definitely coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► anything else on the iphone i mean they don't want the other things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► are getting upset about was the weather the speaker was real or not at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► bottom that's nice thing the headphone jack and you know there was one room i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► don't know if it was make equal or not that the actual going to upgrade the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► speaker the earpiece for the phone so that when you hold it vertically because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► one of the big things about the ipad pro is that or I sorry ipad pro devices it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► is that you have those four speakers so you can spin it any direction anyway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► want and it's always fantastic stereo sound but with one speaker on one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► either your hand covers it was only coming from one side so I think if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► do have that balance they can put signed up both ends of the device and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► yeah because that would actually give you more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► that would give your stereo when you actually want stereo which is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► you're watching a video where as having two speakers on the right side when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► doesn't really it doesn't do anything yeah it's better stereo in my right ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► it's funny that phones they do that they had fantasies phones with fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► speakers but both at the bottom of the display right is it is an awkward i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► wonder what the debate was inside about because the rumor is that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► speaker grills will be symmetric there will be symmetric speaker grills on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► sides of the Lightning port but only one of them will actually be a speaker they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► used to before they moved the headphone jack to the bottom and install the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► of the phone they had sort of the mic at that fake speaker girl on top of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► I mean it's like a return to the old days right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► it's clearly just like a little visual just to make it pleasingly symmetric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► they need a microphone down there to where you can talk into it they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► lot of things that they have to it's sort of like when you read those threads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► like Apple delete the bezels do all this and there's these components in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► that you can't just cut things off there's actual they pack the electronics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► and they're really really tightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3653">TS</a>]
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01:01:36 ◼ ► device you want glue is truly building a product meant for 2016 not 1997 you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► do all sorts of stuff on a blue you can share news organized files coordinate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► calendars manage projects all in one place to do list that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► they've got it that sharing news is sort of like a little micro Twitter just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► so if you want to share stuff that might be considered competitive obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► would want to do that out on the public internet on Twitter so you can create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► effectively your own little private team-wide social network really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► I got all the social stuff you'd want comments like buttons things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► and anyone can add content based on their permissions with drag-and-drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3737">TS</a>]
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01:02:48 ◼ ► go check them out let's move on here's what else do we expect at this event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► this week i expect to hear about a new Apple watch don't know if they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► I don't know what they're going to call it but for the sake of argument for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► sake of discussion i'm going to call apple watch to the new Apple watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► I think they're going to let this be a big part of the event i think that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► going to be really interesting to see what they've what they've done because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► it's really two years after the original it's not two years after chip but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► certainly two years after was introduced and at the meta-level I it compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► how much we seemingly know about the iphone 7 including the boxes that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► actual packaging we seemingly know so much about the iphone 7 almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► about Apple watch to has come out otherwise the only thing we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► seemingly know is that it's going to add gps yeah i think it's similar to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► early days of the iphone with a sort of knew where they wanted to go but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► took a very staged approach to get there in the original iphone ship with edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► but then the next one came out with 3g and gps and it just kept rolling from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► there and in this case you're dealing with something that has a far smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► they're not making tens of million maybe over the course of the year they'll 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► 20 30 40 million of them but they're not trying to put those in stores for day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► one and if the casing isn't changing then it's very hard to differentiate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► what to my pads and i'm an Apple watch to from an Apple watch one in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► leaks on sign away below or places like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► yeah so that would be one explanation for why doesn't link with leaked would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► be if the physical dimensions are unchanged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► aged 10 new color and if it's the same casing it's very hard to get a leak out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► of it i wonder i don't know i I'm this is one of those things where I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► really hope it doesn't leak like last minute but fight while on the airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► flying out there because i love the idea of going into the event not knowing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► the heck they're going to say about Apple watch too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► that's one of the funniest things to me is I keep getting these tweets from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► people who say that the events can be boring because they know everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► going to happen it's like reading the script to the next star wars movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► then going to the theater and say it's boring and you what happened right left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► this one but I don't think that's true i think that the iphone part might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► although i'm intrigued that at how they're going to how they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► brag about the iphone i guess that before how they're going to brag about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► the iphone 7 plus camera without making the regular iphone 7 camera look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► you know like a weakling absolutely to me at all it's never well you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► don't write rumors anymore in the reason for that is there's always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► new iPhones unless Apple pieces out drops the mic consider going into hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► tubs right every year there's gonna be a new iphone and that's not as interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► to me is what problems are going to try to solve and especially the way they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► going to try to solve it and it always requires a story and you very seldom get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► a story out of the leaks right so I'm curious and you know who knows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► it's not physically identical to the old Apple watch and they simply maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► secrecy up until the point where they announced it can click on some every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► night put on a secret Apple watch write it I really really don't know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► here's a question do you think that apple watch edition will still exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► I was yeah who we talked about this in person right whether there was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► be a second generation or whether they would just add new finishes like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► they add white gold or titanium or something to that line because there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► lot you can do in the high-end watch line and I know people made fun of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► but they're there is a group of people who buy twenty-five-thousand-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► tickets to the Emirates and twenty-thousand-dollar dresses or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► tuxedos they wear once or rent five-star 6-star hotel rooms for absorbing price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► into them is it really is next to nothing it's like us buying an ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► I provide stock and that is a market i don't think it was a great market for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► action my guess is we won't hear about them because we haven't heard about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► in a really long time and I think they would have stopped that fire we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► saw the release of the bolt link bracelet for example right there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► have done more to keep it alive if if they really meant for that product line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► yeah my gut feeling is that the apple watch edition just goes into the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► memory hole that it's you know they're just not gonna talk about it and I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► you and I we have spoken about if we talked on the show but I know we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► spoken perchon where I feel like one of the ways you know part of it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► Apple isn't it doesn't see the future you know they they have good idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► ideas they have guesses as to what's going to be popular but that they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► know they don't have the magical ability to know exactly what people will buy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► they keep their eyes open after they come out with something and they adjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► and i think that the way that they've adjusted i think that the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► they're addressing the luxury market is with the Hermes line and it's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► those watches are significantly less than the gold even the cheapest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► gold edition ones but there are a lot more than the regular stainless steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► Apple watches and then a lot less i went into the SFO international currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► have a her meds store and the Hermes actual watch bands are way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► expensive i think it was like three to six thousand Hadoop latour for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► Hermes watch where it's only like a thousand suns only a couple hundred 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► or 600 thousand for the Apple watch version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► yeah it's actually a cheaper ms watch than the regular swatches even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► it's more expensive Apple watch and I kind of feel like that's the sweet spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► for Apple watch in terms of the highest you know price points that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► hit and you know i would not be surprised in the least if they have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► stuff from Hermes and I would be surprised if they keep her mess around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► and maybe add another similar brand you know a similar stature to her meds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► have for example gucci ones or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► absolutely indian the first generation of any product is awkward you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► the first iphone they did a lot of changes for the second one the ipad 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► was stated you had much better focus for that they had on the ipad 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► and with the Apple watch arguably they went to market way sooner or later there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► was ten years of tablets before the ipad in 10 years of smartphones before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► iphone and there were very few years of SmartWatch so they were part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► discovery process they couldn't just sit back and look at everybody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► mistakes and then come out with the coherent product and you can see that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► Apple watch demo it didn't have that minimal delightful product feel the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► you had with original iphone well just look at the photos app it's amazing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► can pinch and zoom and do all these things and you tell them to every friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► you had it just wanted to do the same thing it was like five different six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► different functions and now we've seen with a pole with the watch os3 it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► clearly its fitness and notifications is moving far fewer things I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► why we're seeing GPS GPS is going to be of much more use to people who are into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► fitness and jogging and we've seen you know these people on campus who wear an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► Apple watch and a garment because they're serious Fitness people need just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► be happy to have gps with them and it addresses part of what i think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► narrower focus for the Apple watch going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► yeah i think that GPS is to the apple watch to what 3g was to the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► although I guess the iphone with the iphone 3g eight games gps to yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► alright the first yeah but first I did use a cell phone triangulation by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► mapping write like this I'd like one of those 20 stark expose explaining the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► technology for the first time I love that pump but it's it's laughable but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► don't think the GPI know for some people i guess GPS was a big deal for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► iphone too but to me the 3g was the one where it's like man they just couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► fit in the first year you know but still thought it was worth $MONEY shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► what they could do and I think that ideally GBS is the one thing they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► would have wanted to have all along because they obviously saw this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► fitness device you know it was one of the main 310 pole descriptions of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► it does and it just you know just didn't fit well the current ipod watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► first generation Apple watch runs at the thermal limit of that casing already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► started in the organic apples not a dumb company they have billions of dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► they can prototype everything and they from the beginning they want to gps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► they've wanted cellular but when you look at how hot that thing is already in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► with the battery life is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► it takes time to get to those things and now they feel confident that they can a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► tain battery life and maintain the thermals I think for them LT still melt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► your wrist off work directly to the device quickly but soon as that solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► absolutely sure they'll roll out the version with LTE as well that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► make a i'm sure it'll happen eventually but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► to me to be a top priority because I just don't think many people are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► looking to have another set monthly cellular bill I guess it depends how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► carrier's you absolutely it depends how the carrier's see this this is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► a theory that eventually they'll be something passed the smartwatch and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► don't know what that is yet what the capabilities will be but maybe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► wearable device and right now the apple watch his like again like a shuttlecraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► to the starship that's the iphone but eventually it might be its own ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► can basically do everything if you wanted to buy itself and then you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► have to worry about kicking the phone with you right and I realized that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► is it ties into the fitness angle right where there are certain physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► activities where you be happy to wear a watch but would prefer not to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► bring your phone because you know it's it's hard to get just going running it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► is you've got to get you know special pocket or an armband or you know sac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► around your waist whatever those things are called it's you know it's a pain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► keep your phone with you when you run but I you know for most of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► I don't really care if I have internet access gps is a big is a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► difference for tracking distance and stuff like that but absolutely if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► can't get notifications who cares it'll be like the like the ipad and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► they'll just you know there'll be a market for the few people who want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► and then every other model just a Wi-Fi for a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► yeah I wouldn't be surprised if that's a few years out there not like I even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► next year thing that's why i found that Bloomberg story emphasizing that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► probably wasn't going to be cellular in this year's phone and even if it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► wouldn't ship until december at the earliest i found the whole story to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► again we've had a cellular prototypes before they get the iphone I'm sure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► sure every carrier keeps asking when are you gonna do what are you gonna do one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► right doesn't doesn't sound right because the carriers and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► carriers are the ones that are most interested in charging another 50,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► month or whatever whatever it would cost and I had the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► conversation with one of the people and PR for cellphone company when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► asking about the shared plans because they were trying to tell me how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4393">TS</a>]
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01:14:23 ◼ ► last iphone event I think that was the debut of the hermanus bands and then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4463">TS</a>]
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01:14:31 ◼ ► we just get new colors or like you said there's a new partnership announced or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4471">TS</a>]
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01:14:54 ◼ ► compatible with the new Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4494">TS</a>]
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01:15:06 ◼ ► gonna get the new Apple watching you're going to want to use your old band but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4506">TS</a>]
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01:15:27 ◼ ► speculation or is about Apple watch to at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► this week's event compared to the iphone I'd that whereas I think it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► going to be comparable to two years ago where it's it's a huge huge part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4534">TS</a>]
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01:15:44 ◼ ► pressure off of Apple watch too because it makes it so much faster and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► it so much more coherent and if we hadn't gotten that will be desperate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► an upgrade just to get you more speeds and feeds behind the existing software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► but because Apple watch three pairs things down and makes it makes it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4555">TS</a>]
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01:16:28 ◼ ► responsive as Apple promised and that whole friends house just bury me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4588">TS</a>]
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01:16:40 ◼ ► there if there was also a rumor about them keeping the first generation Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4600">TS</a>]
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01:17:08 ◼ ► something so that their visually different i don't know or maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► only one color option for the Apple watch one that remains around and iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► look the same for a lot like once in a while there's a physical difference like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► the touch ID sensor or now they have the new sizes but for a while the ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► all look the same in the ipads errwhere yo marginally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4642">TS</a>]
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01:17:50 ◼ ► clunker into a smart connected car there's a port there's a diagnostic port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► on every car that's been made since like $MONTH 1997 so it's not even that knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► this is what when you go to the mechanic you go to the auto shop they plug into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► to get readings from the car has all sorts of information anything your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► knows about goes through this diagnostic port well you plug your automatic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► there and you get access to all this information how do you interface it year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4695">TS</a>]
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01:18:28 ◼ ► your car you get information on what's wrong with your car if anything's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4708">TS</a>]
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01:18:58 ◼ ► plug-in has 3g networking I but you have to pay for you don't pay a carrier any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► kind of thing like that all you do is buy the automatic you buy it you own it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► there's no monthly fee to automatic no monthly fee to a carrier and always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► their 3g lets you know things like where your car is parked at any time even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4752">TS</a>]
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01:19:21 ◼ ► park the car and you don't know where it is and your phone wasn't there when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► park the car because it has 3g networking you just open up the app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► will tell you exactly where the car is they have all sorts of integration the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4769">TS</a>]
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01:19:39 ◼ ► all sorts of customization like link your car to connected devices like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► nest thermostat or Amazon echo so you can ask Alexa where i parked my car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4784">TS</a>]
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01:19:55 ◼ ► of your home when you get within a certain number of miles of the house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4795">TS</a>]
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01:20:14 ◼ ► you when you can't call for help yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4814">TS</a>]
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01:21:23 ◼ ► global recall yet did they do a recall though because I just saw a story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► consumer reports the headline from Consumer Reports instead of offering to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► replace unit samsung superficially recall note 7 VA US Consumer Product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► Safety Commission making sales of pre recall units illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► yeah so there's a distinction that they this is basically samsung doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► own thing where they globally announced that they're going to take these back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► and replace them with improved units and that's different than having an official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► US government recall where does make them illegal and we're sort of a process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4912">TS</a>]
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01:22:08 ◼ ► as much as Samsung is certainly apples you know biggest rival in this game you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4928">TS</a>]
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01:22:16 ◼ ► market who are really making profits on smartphones it just goes to show how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► samsung is then then Apple because if the iphone 7 we're getting a recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► three weeks after it came out this the world would stop effort as much as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► tech circles this is the story the iphone thing would be like front-page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► news that would be like front page of the New York Times Style news and I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► into google trends and just put on galaxy recall an iphone recall in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► for fun and even though there has never been an iphone recall not once they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► the spikes the yearly spike over whatever gate there is but there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4968">TS</a>]
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01:22:56 ◼ ► actual samsung recall right that's a good examples like Ben gate was got more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► creative more controversy it was more hyped than it was which was a pretty a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4982">TS</a>]
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01:23:12 ◼ ► mean it it didn't even necessitate a product recall now then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► samsung phones that actually explode and the other thing that why you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/4997">TS</a>]
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01:23:25 ◼ ► with help you know Samsung is treated people that I know who work there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5005">TS</a>]
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01:23:36 ◼ ► products and if they have a problem with the batteries they're making for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► themselves it just means that everybody every every vendor everyone is buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► from Samsung has to be incredibly careful going forward to yeah i totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► agree it's bad news and wonder how they're you know I wonder how big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► potential hit this is if they yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► rumors are that they've already sold about 2.5 million and so if you figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► what are they have a six or seven hundred dollar phones there 850 dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► phones i think they're super expensive but who knows what the cost is yeah them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► for replacing them for everybody and their building materials probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► insignificant mm I don't like you said really bad timing and this it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► arguable now whether the galaxy s7 whether the galaxy s is their flagship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► for the galaxy note because the gala [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► you note is such a distinct product because it does have that pan it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► have you know sort of the the upper end of all the features that they put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► I it does sound like the good news if is again police in terms of personal safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► wise that the phone tense the the problem where it melts or explodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► whatever you want to call it personal flames happens while it's charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► yeah and I mean that's good news in terms of its better than if it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► I'm out I'm not even joking around i mean but it's you know it is obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► fire hazard that if you know I wonder I don't i'd i would happen to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► think that it's better to have it happen when it charges but a lot of times your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► phone charges while you know you're not paying attention to it so it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► i'm wrapping up a lot of things here but it's sort of i don't wish ill on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► manufacturer and or any customer you know I want everyone to have great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► products and you never kick somebody when they're down but it reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► how much armchair product management apple has to put up with like Apple did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► not switch to us bc and they were castigated for it and we watched those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► key notes from google i/o and from facebook and everyone's that Apple's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► behind on this or that they don't have no where's apples modular phones both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► motorola and google or way ahead and then this week we also saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► cancellation of of project ara and it's it's it's impressive how much the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► industry holds apples shipping products against the imaginary products of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► yeah total and it that's good way to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► i'm adding the mac elope made that case the first that i can remember and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► remember CES a long time ago maybe 10-15 years ago because Bill Gates was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► presenting where he walked around with his windows mobile phone and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► would seamlessly integrate with his personal computer and everything else in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► his environment is living room and that that was the subject of his keynote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► Microsoft never not ever shipped that and yet we have companies like Apple who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► pushed out continuity and are increasingly making these things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► it'sit's 10 or 12 years later and they're all every time someone has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► keynote their seen us behind their seen as beleaguered doomed and they just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► shipping products and i try i did it i didn't have much time as we can but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► tried to go back and look at different google i/o and different manufacturers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► notes to see the products they announced and try to figure out which one's of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► them have are either ever shipped or still on the market and I the list was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► i I don't know what you want it it's like I guess the advantage for samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► compared to apple mean it's not just that they don't sell as many of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► highest and phones apple sells advertised and phones but that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► spread their chips around a couple more bets by having you know a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► quote-unquote flagship phones per year whereas Apple puts all of their eggs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► yeah it's almost as if Apple ship the iphone 6s in the in the spring and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► yeah that's a good way to put it and it's obviously you know the one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► that ever actually did happen i would say would be with the verizon iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► yeah for was at four 4s and otherwise my phone for ya and SE this year they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► spring launch right so they got to do one in January with verizon and CDMA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► networks around the world where they fix the antenna lines a little bit and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► like that but for the most part apples of you know all of our phone eggs are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► one basket company so I recall like this for Apple would be it really I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► would warrant the controversy that things like bengay tanned and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► whatever chip Kate right chip gate antennagate have gotten it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► actually warrant the hysteria so who knows what the level of hysteria would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► actually be would be and you know like shipping the iphone is is non-trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► the same way that booting up windows and all the disparate hardware everyday is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► non-trivial yelling getting all those pieces and we've seen you know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► we're not we're probably not getting macbooks this week because it is so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► to line up all of that stuff to arrive at one time and kudos to those teams for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► getting that phone out all the time like clockwork about that's my question so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► it's so a couple of people have suggested that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► I think mark Gurman said that people you know had had some information on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► upcoming new macbooks and said that they're not expected to be announced at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► who else has said that somebody else has said that I frequently i mean the apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► never announced macbooks alongside I and you'd never say never because they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► change your mind anytime they want but they just never put a mac on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► stage as an iphone that i can remember but by comparison be the last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► though they did they didn't hesitate to put the ipad pro on stage next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► new iphone which was you know the original forget I'm the apple TV and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► rest of the other than you watch bands but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► yeah well the watch bands were sort of a little bonus thing but there were three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► products all against you know it was the iphone 6s and 6s plus they need to add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► whole segment on the ipad pro and that pencil and all the software that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► know was already on day one that they secretly brought people in you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► to create apps to support and the new Apple TV I don't know that there's to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► there's nothing special about the mac that would prevent it from being onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► with the iphone no I mean there might be other reasons but I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► any other questions just timing like it the same way the desire i believe was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► ship appletv last of EDC and end up going in the fall instead I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► desire this year was to ship a WBC and it just didn't have whether it's intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► or AMD or one of the customizations they're working on actually think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► this really is a macbook pro upgrade this isn't just bumping it to Sky late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► for you nobody can be like at some point because every it's there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► sexiness and that anymore it's not a great product is just a spec bump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► they could do that as soon as the chips are ready and they really want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► something more because everyone is copy their design everyone is sort of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► ultrabooks and and laptops that look like macbooks and they really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► push the boundaries again of what we think is possible and that does involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► things like the old strip and and and other new advances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► yeah so I mean it's so much you know enough smoke that I guess there's a fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► or I guess there's no smoke so there's no fire that there won't be any mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► announcements this week which means it will but there you know if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► coming this year it's either going to be another smaller event in october or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► they'll just do it by inviting people to private pretty things they were as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5454">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► as we want new macbooks Apple really wants new macbook pros at the retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► really i mean they set out the back-to-school season they would not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► that lightly that is not an easy it's like the same thing with last year they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► didn't have keyboards and pencils to sell when the ipad pro went on sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► that's a huge loss for them as a retail operation and not having brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► macbook pros on the market herb or updated MacBook Airs to give them a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► bump in the back-to-school season are going into the holiday sales is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► thing for them they really want those things to ship so it's not like apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► just sitting on their hands and and withholding macbook pros and chairs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► I so it apparently so government says that there's going to be new MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► Airs with us bc no other details that I that I noticed this report i will still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► hold onto my wager that they will never get retina displays yeah i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► goal is that the macbook replaces i miss it's not there from a price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► because again Apple Apple is a financial company as much as it is a computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► company and 8 99 999 are incredibly compelling price points and we used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► have the plastic and then the the original map aluminum macbook at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► point and those were replaced by the macbook air and until something can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► replace those that they're not going to go anywhere so I have that CD rom the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► product for iced what is that thing called the 13 inch and 10 with ya with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► an optical drive or supervisor something but that's sort of what I expected them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► to do with the air is what they did with that macbook pro which is not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► updated not even get it just the exact same device that it was three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► years ago when it was new that it is now and I just sort of thought that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► they would do with the air but it sounds like they're gonna do some modest yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► no speed bump and I guess that makes some amount of sense because that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► 13-inch macbook pro with the optical drive is a real niche I mean they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► even have that out on the desk so you have to look you have to look on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► website even to find it right so you have to know that it exists a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► for it and you have whatever reason you want that device you have very specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► reasons for whereas the I guess the sense of doing a minor a modest update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► to the air is that the heirs are still a top sound you know probably the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► selling models of macbooks in the stores and you know it's the therefore too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► important just from a financial standpoint that really led him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► yeah it's the 13 the 13 inch macbook air my understanding is just to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► computer and if technology wasn't moving as fast and be fine but we are getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► your connectors and they're all sorts of things that especially if maybe Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► does have other accessories in the wings that will depend on having those kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► interconnects it would behoove him to have that on the market and then written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► as a big differentiator retina and justice eyes and the colors of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► macbook to keep sort of justify that next generation staying on the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► yeah and if they start pushing out USBC ports on macbooks and presumably you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► know I guess they put them in the imac to to do they switch the lightning cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5636">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► that comes with the iOS devices from the USBC to lightning because like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► example right now if you want to charge your iPhone from your macbook your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► your 1-port macbook you still need like you need like a dongle because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► your cable that comes with your iphone is the big fat USB what is that USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► don't they have that for the of the 12 . i probably do have a lightning to USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► see cable now that's what does the USBC faster the better charging and 12.9 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► yes I think they have that cable now so it's just people have to go out and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► yeah but I think maybe you know I wonder if they start shipping it in the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► yeah I don't know is such a mess that we when you look at those chipsets and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► you look at the trouble microsoft had with Sky lake in the early surface books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► and even Paul throw lost it several times trying to deal with those machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► and then until just kept pushing things back like I think displayport the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5696">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► one that everyone's been waiting for i push back to Canada lake and now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► time to push back to kb like announced push back to canon lake and now push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► the that kind of their so dependent on on the the silicon of other companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► yeah I it does seem weird it it really and I guess part of it is that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► the reason i'm so antsy about them not announcing mac stuff in September is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► just that it just feels so overdue at this point ya like like I was mildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► surprised when word leaked that there wasn't going to be mac new macbook pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► at WWDC you know because i think a lot of us earlier in the year we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► expecting that and it seemed a little surprising at the novel was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► but I i do too but I I really underestimated at the time in June just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► how long the summer was gonna feel with ya macbook pros like it just seemed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► the time like in June it seemed like a BB September before you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► whereas now it feels like man these these computers that they're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► ridiculous i don't know about you but I I don't feel as much pressure i got i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► have a review unit for the latest generation 13-inch macbook pro with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► force touch trackpad and I think it's Broadwell inside it but i still use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► previous the one that my personal one is a previous generation with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► old-fashioned trackpad actually like the force touch trackpad better but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► didn't want to go through the rigmarole of setting up a new macbook still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► my one from a couple years ago i'm saying i have the exact same one and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► agree it's fine but it's and I i probably won't buy the new 1a personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► just because i tend to buy a macbook pro and then run it into the ground just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► because I takes me like a whole week to set it up the way i like it and honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► I did I don't do anything that is performance intensive on the macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► so I'm fine if I was just I later k be like I would probably wait out to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► but I'm just gonna be super interested in using those new features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► yeah and yet one that the fact that the there so long in the tooth though as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5815">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► just hear it i'm sure you do yes that on twitter and on email all the time from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► it all the obvious problems that this creates is that you know the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► listen to us on podcaster read I more and daring fireball are savvy people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► so they know that these machines are old and so I just keep hearing from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► I mean either that they have something really really old and that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► you know they just picked the wrong year to to put it off for or they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► have like a machine that was broken or started a new job and they get in they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► get a macbook and guess what you know who wants to start a job now in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► macbook that you get from your employer is your you already know in your heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► is going to be outdated you know really momentarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► yeah no absolutely and it reminds me sort of 2011 where we got used to having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► your iPhone's at WWDC and then a couple months out there was no don't expect any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► new hardware and then we waited and it wasn't September ended up being October [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► before the iphone 4s came out and you know we could say that was iCloud or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► Syria or whatever that took that much time to get ready but you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► waiting a much longer was in 16 months instead of 12 and this is even longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► than that and again I i if it was up to apple I'm sure they would have shipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► it way way earlier but something happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► yeah I don't know what you do as a company because externally like Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► not a community of company there's a lot of companies that would have announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► the product months before it was ready and tease did and showing it off on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► stage and then issued delay after delay and sort of tried to explain it may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► that a good job maybe not but apple just stays absolutely quiet about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► things and sometimes when it's like this is just a deathly silence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► yeah so we'll have to see i can't help but think to hopefully my new mac pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► I mean that's the one that to me is less like their people will accuse as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► of making excuses for Apple but the mac you could even say the mac pro they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► waiting four skylights eon or whatever but those graphics cards could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► updated so many times right especially for people because the macbook the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► pro is a performance machine and if you're going to bind it with graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► cards that you can swap out i think it sort of incumbent on you to issue timely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► yeah it really and you know again it's the sort of thing that they seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► could have done you know they don't need to do it at an event just you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► you know it's just silent you know not even silent but you know like press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► release you know like hey you know remember that mac pro released a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► here's a same thing but with a year better graphics are absolutely you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► you view there's a reason we don't want Broadwell xeon for some reason don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► just put out the better graphics cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► yeah and it really works against apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► style of pricing or apple doesn't really price things like a tech company does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► based on the components they the price is part of the brand and so the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► year old Mac Pro still sells for the same price that sold that three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► ago whereas if it was dell and you were buying a machine that had three you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► three year old cpu and a three-year-old graphics card you'd be getting a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► lower price on absolutely and again if you're going to say the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► computing is computing appliances then you have to keep it updated especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► when it is like the Lamborghini or veyron of your line right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► understand why Apple does that and i'm not saying that they should be lowering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► the price on the mac pro I'm saying that if you're going to maintain these prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► that you don't lower than you've got to keep it updated to some degree on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► annual basis to justify it because the reason Apple doesn't lower the price is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► that when they do released a new one they want to release it at the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► same price and not have it suddenly look like it jumped in price by two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► thousand dollars and mac mini I think it's the same story they never updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► the mac mini on a year-over-year basis but it's been I think two years at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► most and now we're getting close to three and they've made that an appliance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► to or it's very hard to update so fine do that but that means you're agreeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► to the responsibility of getting it for me right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► I I don't know I feel like the mac mini that they should call it the mac we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► don't want you to buy the legacy right but the people who love them love them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► absolutely in the great machines but they got rid of the quad core and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► seal them up and did they now have to update them all right so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► what do you think you're gonna have an event do you think they're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► briefings you know in the old days and if they hadn't been working on AC to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► like the they would have just a town hall that they did with no previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► years with new macs and sometimes new iPads as well but they sort of made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► sound like the last the iphone SE event was the last time they be using town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► hall and I don't think the new campus is is ready for anything so I think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► idea of briefings makes the most sense and they always go back on it and invite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► people to town hall yes Jason's now pointed out that Tim Cook even I forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► about that but tim cook pointed out during that iphone SE event that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► would probably be the end of the last event you know we've had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► history here in this room and is probably the last time but my thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► is that maybe at that time they were totally expecting to have this mac stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► ready to go WTC absolutely and so maybe you know maybe we do get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► a one last one more thing event at a town hall and as much as it's a pain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► have to do a second event in the fall it would be just as much of a pain to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► traveling roadshow at least I don't have to do it so I start for action please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► yeah you know what I think it is I think that it's a different it's a problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► a different set of people at Apple yeah right the disable the people who set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► these big mega events I and really you know quite frankly told you know . blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► said last year doing to even a smaller one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► it's so much less worried like doing one event is so much better it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► group of people who would have to do double the work or extra work and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► events team does the on-site and it right mostly the marketing and the PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► team that does the road shows but one way or the other it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► something's gonna happen all right here's the other the last thing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► last thing I think about this event if it's true that there are no Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► well then the only thing we know I is iphone 7 and Apple watch too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► I don't think they're going to do an update to the ipad pro and i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► could see is giving the 12.9 the same sort of this is to disparities now and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► always think sometimes the IT department is trolling us because they're not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► 12.9 inch iPad has the USB 3 controller so it has much faster speeds and charges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► faster the baby pro has the DCI p3 display and the true tone and the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► camera and in a perfect world those were sort of even out and we get a minor bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► and also the a-10 i mean i-i I don't need it but want both those machines to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► have the a-10 or the 8nx processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► yeah so I don't know and we haven't heard anything but I could believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► but I could also believe that maybe it's the ipad is on the March cycle and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► the ipad that 12.9 and ipad pro it will be you know I you know like this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► one time on an 18-month cycle instead of a 12-month cycle just one hand filter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► could do that magic thing we just has one slide that goes up and oh by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► new new 12-inch like 198 ipad pearls with two-tone also available shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► yeah it does make sense that if they stick with the March event which I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► yes it's really long to go without product launches until until double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► September right i could see them doing a minor upgrade to it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► maybe they're gonna upgrade the a 9 X and just upgrade that display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► yeah to get through tone I could see that but i don't see it if they do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► it's certainly not going to take a lot of time on stage and so I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► relatively short event I don't think you could say that the mac stuff is forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► out by time i just don't you know it makes me wonder whether there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► something else that you know a true surprised I'm not trying to be at ease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► here i'm not trying to set people's expectations too high but makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► wonder whether there's something else that they're planning to use this event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► for that is you know totally out of the blue and some of the essence the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► SMS have been small and they've been okay with that i think the 4s and 5s is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► events were relatively small and they were absolutely fine with that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► biggest surprises that had lately are things that just can't leave things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► research kitten care kit which are just you know they're so close they're so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► in the engineering organization they have such a small visibility that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► don't get out but those aren't the kind of surprises that consumers usually care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► yeah when was the Apple pay that was two years ago right that yes that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► event with the original Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► I dont 16 event yeah right and that was held in there was one center that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► flint center right right i don't know an apple TV doesn't mean they've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► updated appletv year-over-year either and they could put it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► I mean the obvious upgrade their is 4k and the higher color gamma gamma as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► but in a symmetrical remote yeah it's symmetrical absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► jason is a new team on the remote so maybe we'll get that little yeah i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► expecting that though I do expect you know obviously someday we'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► another apple TV i do expect that maybe the next time though don't make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► yeah I I don't expect it this year and even if they did I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► I don't think I don't think it takes a lot of time on stage because eat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► know the things they might introduce like a better you know that faster cpu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6356">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► that that that that would be the itunes 4k part of that that would take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► would be the stage time and I don't know if they have itunes 4k ready yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► just don't see that enough people have 4k tvs that had a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► it's ok you can buy this new appletv that drives a 4k TV that you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► well it's not so much the for the last time we were we were together well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► invited us over to dolby and I took the chance to go and they showed us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► side-by-side for k vs 1080p HD are four star wars the the new Star Wars movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► and for the remedy revenant and the difference between the HDR and it is HTR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► with so much better than 4k they just went to HDR class their pipeline I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► that would be super impressive but again those TV sets are super expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► anything else anything else you want to cover before we wrap this up and we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► pack our bags and get ready to go to this event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► no I mean I think WC this year was also return to the very Spartan apple keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► so they weren't the big jokes that weren't the big skits it was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► matter-of-fact keynote presentation and I think you know if they stick to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► for this little especially be a very tight i don't know if we'll get we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► haven't gotten the updates on the Apple stores a lot recently and we haven't got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► a lot of the business slides recently it's been Tim Cook coming out and almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► doing a smash cut right into the product announcements and if that's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► the new way where they return to the old way of the Apple keynotes and it'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► very efficient iphone apples Apple watching we're out in hands-on area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► I'm trying I'm trying to have it both ways I could see it going at I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► event is going to go to one extreme or the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► where it's either going to be like what you just said a pretty bare-bones maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► just you know 65 minutes you know you're almost out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► you know out almost an hour after it starts and it's just a here's these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► iphones two new iphones that we expected here's the new Apple watch and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► or there's a us home kit for the home like so one of the is going to be held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► at the program center again and when they did the iphone event last year it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► was held a bill graham they didn't have very many people they famously couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► get a lot of people in your eyes the fire marshals but they had those giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► living room sets with the Apple TVs for demos and then at WWDC was the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► there were no demo areas but they pack that place full of people and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► they're there's no developers this year I took to pack that place with and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► not assuming there's going to be any living room so I wonder if maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► a home kit angle they could be doing demos with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► I just don't know what the bill graham center will be used for this right i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► told that they pictogram last year specifically to set up those living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► rooms for the applicants the fake living rooms for the opportunities than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► there was no other way that they could figure out how to have that many that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► that that that many hands-on areas for Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► yeah because the hands-on area for the UH the phones and now watching the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► was it was nice but it wasn't that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6536">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► you know it's like a regular sort of piano bar set up alrighty well we almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► looks like an apple store if you as I recall but it you know it wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► bit where as they really used a huge chunk of physical real estate to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► yeah it was like maybe ten living rooms just completely set up that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► wander around so I wonder I don't know but on the other hand maybe they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► you know it until the campus is finished this is just where they have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► events and they like you know they just like working with the bill graham people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► i don't know i don't have a gut feeling just anecdotally talking to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► other people in the racket that it seems as though seating will be as tight as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► was last year that they're they're not they were not especially particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► liberal with the passes for you know the media and whoever else they invite the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► have heard they are getting there they are trying to do more international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► which is one of the price is putting pressure on us media that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► getting people from Japan from China and from Europe and actually bring them over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► and not just to remote setups right now I think that they're done with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► remote setup like any old days for people who don't know what they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► do is they would have you know maybe like I think maybe one in Asia to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► Asia I don't know if they did to but you know at least one in Asia and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► in London or somewhere in Europe so that people didn't want to travel all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► to California could just go there and they would have liked these satellite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► events and I did they do them like at the same time was it i think somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► the same times and some they would do they would have follow-up they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► sort of send people out afterwards to fall right i think the asian ones would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► have to have been follow-ups because like you could do the london one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► ten o'clock pacific would be what it would be noon now one o'clock eastern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► six or seven from doing my math right which is reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► I mean it's a little bit be odd for us because we're so used to go into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► things in the morning but you know six or seven is reasonable but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► having them at like 2am it would be a little ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► an apple is very clean with like I've been following some of the other vendors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► now as they do their keynotes and for example every year for samsung their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► keynote starts and their embargo drops the minute their keynote starts because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► they have invited people over to do hands-on weeks beforehand right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► i'm watching the keno and then all these YouTube videos go live that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► actually go see the product which makes me not want to watch the keynote in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► and the timing for me as bizarre as it is just someone watching I'd much rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► enjoy the keynote and then have the embargo lifts maybe after the keynotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► like the Apple and i actually prefer because they're sort of this one unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► yeah so I don't know so i can see it going one way the other either very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► simple event exactly as we predict where it's just the iPhone and Apple watch two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxp6e8o/6694">TS</a>]