00:00:00 ◼ ► you wearing shoes I yeah Mr we re going out is through we have an outside day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► I'm not wearing shoes I've done it with socks on in the wintertime I often do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► with my slippers and I it's so ungodly hot here that I and we have air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/11">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► conditioning but it's it's like their conditioning is struggling to keep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/19">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► its losing the battle we were down in Florida for some you know see some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/24">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► the theme parks for a family vacation and the weather is is of course stifling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/31">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► hot and humid down in orlando florida and it is exactly exactly the same here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► in Philadelphia yeah well we always plan our our trip back east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► I'm to coincide with the worst possible whether so early August will be will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/45">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► going will be going to baltimore and i'll call beautiful Baltimore is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► absolutely beautiful in August that the timing couldn't be better get just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/54">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► you to give your sweat glands to a good you know yeah right it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► Glenn you know it's like like when they when they get your car get service they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/64">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► put it up on the thing with the wheel spin and they you know put that you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► it you got to put the gas all the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► that's what you know you'd just get it you know do that with your sweat glands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/74">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► yeah flush out all the toxins barefoot I'm absolutely Baron I got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/78">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► toxins so we can roll right is I one of the things I wanted to talk to you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/83">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► really do a little parenting little parenting episode here of the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► because I was catching up on podcasts and the ATP you guys were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/91">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► mhm and made the the excellent . we don't we don't really talk about screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/99">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► time here in our family either that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/104">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► as Syracuse's had a big long rant about it but basically it's no it's no fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/108">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► just say screen time because it you know if the kids reading a book on an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/112">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► realize that count his screen time I mean it's like yes things that you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/117">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► want to limit like watching TV and YouTube and movies and playing video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/121">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► I don't think this is is Hank aware of that there are such things as video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► games you have played 12 jones played one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► Jonas has discovered them and he seen me play them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► I know that much i I don't know it is interesting no Amy and I I you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/138">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► don't really have like a hard and fast rule about it and I think if anything we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/144">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► are probably a little too lacks about yeah yeah we're probably we're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/149">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► much the same Jonas's of the personality that it you know he's very sociable he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/154">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► is but he would happily spend his entire summer and doing nothing but playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/161">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► video games in our house right yeah yeah i mean in the tank would do that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/168">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► you know would do the same and we usually when our thanks it's not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► screen time as it is like non screen time and there's a minimum right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/178">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► you've got to figure out something to do that doesn't involve looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► screen right right and so you know he doesn't know he plays chess we play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/187">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► we often have them in the kitchen to make dinner and lunch and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/193">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► that and so we do things like that but I mean yeah but like you said like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/196">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► of the stuff he plays on it on his iPad or his iphone is like he'll play chess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/201">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► or his playing Words With Friends with family members and that stuff doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/206">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► I mean it's certainly no you know it's certainly way better than playing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/214">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► know I can't even think I only place that he likes to still likes to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► flappy bird and andy and you know he's much better at it than I am so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/221">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► he's developed he's developed serious flappy bird skills so that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► that'll sure that will work out well for him later in life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► one of the things that Amy and I struggle with and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/234">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► it is different from when you and I were kids because I would have had died while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/239">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► i like playing sports and Jonas doesn't so I would go out to play actual sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► on and we had a community pool and in the small town where I grew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/248">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► that was where everybody hung out and so we don't you know in the summer with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/255">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► every i would go to the pool every day just go to the pool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► Jonas doesn't really have anything like that here but the other thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► different is that sometimes not all the time but not even most of the time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► sometimes the games are actually sociable where his friends will you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/270">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► text each other and say let's all play whatever and they everybody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/275">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► it's it seems like a very happy coincidence i mean maybe there's one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/281">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► kidney is gangs got an xbox instead of a Playstation and I just don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► it and he's like excluded but they all have playstation fours which I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/289">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► don't remember when we got it that it was coordinated with his friends it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► seems like a happy coincidence but anyway they're all on these headsets in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► there yelling at each other and it's a lot like you know like having them over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► to the house you know the kids are in house except right the other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► stinky kids aren't in my house so it's actually kind of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► I but Amy and I don't really know you know how it does that is that it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/312">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► know a little bit you know it seems it seems almost a wrong to to you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/318">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► to limit it but to say hey enough because it seems like that's what his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► friends want to do to play with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► mhm yeah which is kind of what we would have done like going out someplace right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/329">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► the doing something and i imagine i mean i would feel I would think that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/335">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► I mean maybe he's getting old enough now but it's not exactly the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► environment that she would just like let kids out the door and now we well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/344">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► Amy and I differ on that a little bit i'm a little bit more willing to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► letting him go out and about and amy is still of the beast 12 so yes Virginia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/351">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► her decline out that everybody knows how old my kids but he's 12 heading into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► amy is still very overt not overprotective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/362">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► very protective and perhaps reason perhaps you know it to the point where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/366">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► don't I don't you know I I I almost defer to her wisdom that you know but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/371">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► still think though that I think the world's largest very different you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► grew up as like the last of the wild feral kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/379">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► yeah I mean I but I just lived in a different environment too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/385">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► I mean as much more as much smaller town and lots of we had words in the backyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/390">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► and we know trails leading in all directions and so we I mean we were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/395">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► you know and I could go out the door anytime and just play in the woods or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/401">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► something we haven't playing in the woods was the thing that we did and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/408">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► don't have that mean you know he may if he goes out to play in the woods here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► that's you know inhabited by almost people so it's not it's not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/414">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► we did he die we you know but it is important for him to do and we're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/422">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► of you know we're getting that I mean we've done with you know like he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► friend who lives like three blocks away and we know we will let him walk over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/428">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► so he's you know you get he gets it he gets definitely do some of that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/434">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► know the other like a almost it was a fourth of July anyway was a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/439">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► ago and we had some friends over and like he had a buddy with you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/444">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► and in that they we were having dessert I think and we didn't we were out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► like whipped cream and he loves to have like whipped cream on his ice cream so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► certainly not only in you know instead of complaining about want to walk over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► the convenience store and get in which is like four blocks from here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► don't you walk to the convenience store and go get something so the two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/463">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► just think we gave them like five bucks they walked out Doran and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► they walked every morning and came back and and that's the canyon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/470">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► it's just find particularly now milady de winter stupidly when there's two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► I feel much better about it it seems ridiculous right that that's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/478">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► moment but I know exactly what you mean like we're actually at the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/483">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► stage where it's like well I swear to god it was a couple months ago we gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/487">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► Jonas a letter to drop in the mailbox and it was like are you sure we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/493">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► we're sure you'll be alright take your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► what I grow and hank was really young I mean he was three maybe I'm and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/499">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► remember if it was a letter i think it was like a card or something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► have a breakup birthday card for the grandparents or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► he had sat down with Karen to sign it and like put in the envelope put a stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► on a dress and so they did that and then Karen kind of like turned her back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/520">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► and intensely and then like minutes later support like worse or tank where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/526">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► the heck is Hank and we notice the front doors open and he just like grabbed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/532">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► thing he knew where the mailboxes like three blocks away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► he said he was booked into the mailbox he was gonna mail that letter so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/540">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► our it was like an assertion of independent well you know it's just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► don't even think it was well sort of but i mean i think it was mostly just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► he knew that was the next thing that needed to be done and he was gonna do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► right you just going to take care of it and and this little you know little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/554">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► three-year-old was running up and down the street and this is long before he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/558">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► knew enough about crossing the street and and people can bomb through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► neighborhood sometimes so you know naturally being the the the modern-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/565">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► parents that we are we freaked out and chased after him like tackle them like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/570">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► half a block away and brought it back for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/576">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► idiots instead of like running up and saying okay let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► well thank you i got where are you going what's going on another thing at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► we didn't realize what he was doing all we knew was that he was just like often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/588">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► running and then later I think we're like he was going to the mailbox and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/592">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeahs which we should have figured out but i think the panic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/600">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► like nazi know that moment where you'd like you turn around the kids gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► yeah and you're like oh my god on that parent I think that parent that was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/608">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► the news for us a big part of it is definitely at least in my mind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/613">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► honestly just the safety of crossing the street because yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/620">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► it cars go fast fast enough that you know it would kill you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► yeah yeah well here we have all these you know we have a mess of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/631">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► yeah that's a four-way you know it's like a four-way no stop and nobody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/637">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► how to deal with them i'm technically you're supposed to let the person we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/642">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► have you arrived at the same time the person to the right as the right away I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/646">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► yeah but very few people know that and usually the way the what people think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/651">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► the person who's going to fastest gets together like I I'm going faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/656">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► I grew up in the small town where a man I grew up was lots and lots of almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/663">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► everything was a four-way stop and what I remember you know in the family years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/668">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► where I was driving age and living there was that hit that the procedure was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/673">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► it's like what did you know living in suburbia full of very nice people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/680">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► both drivers like wave to each other both of them wave saying you go you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/686">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► you know yeah you go and then eventually want it there forever one of you gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► up her after 30 seconds and then goes you know usually I was you both give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/696">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► at the same time and then I start going and then then the whole process starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/702">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► I like this idea and I bet you're right that makes total sense i want to know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► if I ever learned that to pass the driver's test written exam i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/710">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► gotten it that I had forgotten it for the longest time and in our first house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/715">TS</a>]
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00:16:23 ◼ ► us we really didn't see it did seem this way that the way people emerged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/983">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► Massachusetts is they just get up to speed and hope that there's a slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/987">TS</a>]
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00:16:39 ◼ ► this guy and she could see that there was a guy you know coming on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► on a ramp and he was keeping pace with the car in front of her and she could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► see that they were getting closer and closer and she was like who's gonna move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1008">TS</a>]
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00:17:47 ◼ ► the morning at ten thirty or so to avoid traffic and I could it was you it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1067">TS</a>]
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00:17:54 ◼ ► speed traffic was all over and in a winner every time I mean it was like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► the time in in the what you call the the thing but the grass between the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► directions the media median ya there would be SUVs in that you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► like rolled over in the bad weather like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1089">TS</a>]
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00:18:17 ◼ ► side or something like that and and again it was like and and it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► seemed like anybody was hurt there'd be people like standing and you know winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► coats and their cellphones I well what you gonna do my my SUV flipped over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1104">TS</a>]
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00:24:17 ◼ ► part of the expanse series that has is being made into sci-fi show of which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► really good so I just read a book on vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► it's and you know i guess i could recommend it it's called trigger mortis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► it's a james bond novel written by yeah Anthony Horowitz and it's that's corny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► and I mean like they keep reading you know hang out you know they keep writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► these James Bond novels you know you even Fleming has been dead like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► like 50 50 years I but this one's cool that's it set it's not like set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► modern days it's at like two weeks after the end of goldfinger and like bond is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1494">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► still bouncing around with the Pussy Galore at the beginning of the book huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► that's cool yeah I i enjoyed it so I mean there's one you don't go listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► that inaudible hey i saw story want to know if you saw this was on the verge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► about a week ago by dieter bohn and that the the headline is google is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► better apps for the iPhone then for android and it's talking about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► like motion stills if you ever seen that app that's the app where you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► your live photos and kind of smooth them out and and you know it smooths out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► motion no and and let you do things like tournament animated gifts and videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► yeah I keep meaning to hear that and I haven't I have not gotten that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► it's a really really good app and I i actually haven't I don't know i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► don't have iOS 10 installed on my phone yet i have it on my iPad but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1553">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► think Apple did anything with live pictures in iOS yeah like I kind of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► really feel like it's like they're filling out this app is filling in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► something that should be built into iOS which is Bernie's live photos which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► still think are great a great feature i tend to keep it on all the time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► it's I don't you know the only reason I can think of not to use life if pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► if you're worried about the extra space that they take up but it's so much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► will find that annoying some people find the image moving annoying but i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► think you're right it's probably mostly a sign of space issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► yeah but it's just so it's so curious to me that they didn't come up with a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► to share them as you know I don't know if they do gifts but you know it seems a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► little beneath Apple but it's you know but it you know the magic of animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► gifts is still can't believe we're using these things I mean who would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► thought give the gift of the image format would make a comeback 256 colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► but being able to share them is a standard interview that you could post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► isn't it basically is it not basically just a series of you know it's like had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► what you whatever the you know the way they used to make movies it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► series of area stills now it's not it's it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► hi res full you know the full resolution that you have your camera set to shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► at a still jpg and it's like a sidecar movie fuck . mov file know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► talking about I'm talking about tomato animated gifs yes animated gifs you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► just yes they're just it's it animated gifts image format is just take a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► of stills and right and each one has a it's like a flip it like a flipbook yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► and you can set each because I remember as a web developer oh my god what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► that table eyes remember that HAP oh yeah it you needed it because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► like he'd you know it it would it would crush them down to like the minimum size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► and it would gather the colors in a really pleasing way and you know get get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► it down to like six bytes or whatever Sixkiller button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► and you can also set that the format it's it's actually kind of a nice format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► except for the the you know there are nice in terms of being easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► understandable not nice and being high fidelity but i think that each frame can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► have its own color palette it's not like one color palette of 256 colors for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► I think that heat went out can do that and you can also set how long the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► duration of each frame so you can do things like States show this frame for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► one second this frame for one second that show this frame for three seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► right i think five recall correctly I think no I think that's I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► correct because I long long ago I made some by hand and I don't remember why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► but I'm and I don't life she can't remember what it was in $YEAR i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► maybe it was back my hand and copy of Photoshop which you don't have anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► but I think you're I think that's correct but I am when I link to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► I the emotion the most Google's motion still zap i laughed and made a point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► saying look at the comments because the comments are all from these people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► android phone saying come on google this is ridiculous i can't believe you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► this for iphone android even though android doesn't have doesn't have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► the don't have that right and then somebody pointed that out and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► somebody else said well there's one there's one HTC phone that the day you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► know they obviously can't call it live photos but they have it has the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► steno same basic feature something so i don't like 3,000 android phones there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► ah but there's other apps to that people are talking about you know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► you know just I and there's any links to it here its there's a previous article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► from a about some other guy named ben popper at the verge is you know whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► holy invested in the Google ecosystem but uses iOS and that he stated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► their apps are so good that they you know he sees no reason to switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► does email with the inbox app google calendar app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► oh the other 12 is the google there's the google g board keyboard that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► of people think it's like the best third-party keyboard for iOS alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► yeah yeah and it has some cool features some of them are coming in iOS 10 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► the ability to type words and get the emoji you know suggestions right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► know like if you tighten coffee and maybe you'll get that you know one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► the suggestions will be the coffee emoji but there is another one that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► one to wear wear when google announced google g board thing the comments were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► half people saying this is great and half android users complain how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► make this for iOS and not for android I don't cares what you think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► and why do you think it might be that that Google does seemingly you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► least as good or as popular their apps are on iOS you know with what it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► ok well i don't know if it's still the case because i haven't seen the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► recently but for a long time they were making more money off of iOS then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► were off of Android M advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► yeah I believe that dollars right so it would make more sense that invest more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► in the platform that's making more money regardless of what I made it or not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► think part of it is just the nature of google itself that google is to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► and maybe i'm wrong but it's it seems to me that google is sort of a federation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► of many many products and teams and doesn't really have a single unifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► you know this is the main thing that we do you know like right it is the nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► of it at Apple the main thing that the company does is they sell devices like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► iPhones and iPads and macbooks that's the main thing that they do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► it certainly at some level really comes down to how do we you know keep making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► these devices and selling them at a profit and microsoft microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► I think under what's the new CEOs name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► satya nadella definitely changing but under gates and ballmer they were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► windows company fundamentally and everything was about windows and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► I think it's like the to see this is wow this is kind of amazing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► interesting amazing that Google does such a good job with iOS apps is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► kind of yeah I think you have to look at google like sort of through Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► tinted glasses that wide why isn't why isn't google treating android the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► Microsoft treated windows in its heyday as like now you know the shining star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► and let's put our exploits that's do anything cool that we come up with let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► make sure it's you know it's on Android first and i don't think it works like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► that because i don't think there's any I don't think there's any it reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► yeah it's not i mean i wouldn't call it like skunk works but it's kind of living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► there their philosophy as much more open to seemingly to have been having these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► like side projects and then you know that turns into something yeah we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► we'll do something with it which it you know i think you know it was the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► thing that did not work at Apple back in the nineties they were you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► were running around and people working on the side projects than that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► that we're going nowhere but they seem to do much better with it and I wondered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► to it always is and I don't know how you get this information but it'd be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► interesting to know i would love to know like how many like what percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► google employees you know use like iphones instead of android phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► yeah my guess it always has been that it's pretty high and you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► know a lot of people who work at Google I'm not sure off the top of my head if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► know anybody works right now but a couple East you know within the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► years I knew some people who live there are network there and once I knew had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► iphones and I don't think that there is there's no stigma meters to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► I mean that people that I knew where we were around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► well no one was a software engineer on the other one was some more like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► yeah so yeah I mean I wouldn't that doesn't seem like that is you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► like that that we don't think that Microsoft famously did with a head like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► yeah whatever they had like again you're supposed to throw your iPhone's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► people like a garbage can or something i don't think that too many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► actually did it but remember when here it might want to switch the windows fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► remember when they had the funeral for the iphone yeah you know that that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► have been that might have been the lowest point and the whole bomber era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► the yeah the parade that they had for the funeral for the iPhone because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► was so laughably not based in reality you know like there wasn't it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► feel like hmm maybe you know maybe windows phone is gonna take this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► like I I never really thought so but let's just like three years ago or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► like 2013 you know was a rough year for apple's stock and their water a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► people who seem to think at the time that Android was about to overwhelm iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► right like the whole this is exactly like Windows and Mac from the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► again and you know I I think you can go back and read you know daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► from that era and you could see that I didn't really think that was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► but it seemed like it was at least possible like I'd I never thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► going to happen but I didn't see it as like an impossibility I saw it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► doesn't seem it seems to me like too many things are different here and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► you know one thing would be that you know that Apple's even if they only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► fifteen percent of the market that's a heck of a lot different than the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► percent of the up-market they had in the nineties and and etcetera etcetera go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► and on there's all sorts of other differences but it seemed like maybe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► the Windows Windows Phone burying the iphone didn't even seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► possibility like he it and you can see you can see how from their perspective I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► mean you could that they wanted to believe that and they needed to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► keep going and also to try and make it a to have that sort of confidence work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2214">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► a marketing tool and but the thing that it might be you remember these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► yeah that came out around boy was it like 2013 2012 to his name is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► bit earlier than that saying that they did some of these analysts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► predicting that we know windows phone was gonna was gonna beat android yes now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► that was earlier that was a little odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► yeah that was that I mean like how could you even it was just like there was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► the simple belief that Microsoft being microsoft would come out on top somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► one of your in my shared a preoccupations is it is with the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► of analysts and the magic way that somebody who if they're accepted as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► analyst if that is like the title that you know something something analyst if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► that's the title when they go on CNBC that whatever they say is there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► taken as well we can publish this is news you know that this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► something worth you know worth reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► when in fact it's off sometimes it might be there are some analysts who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► incredibly smart and astute and and rigorous in their research and and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► the evidence that they showed back up their claims and then there are others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► who just make stuff up and I remember that the that the windows phone is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► to you know surpass android and you know be like the number one operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► by 2014 or 2015 it must have been a couple years earlier next I know we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► already said yes so this the prediction was in the link may of 2011 yeah alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► you gotta come on give it to me finish I was it was yeah it was pyramid research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► is still a broken and she said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► bye 2013 windows home was poised overtaking androids massive market share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2333">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► in two years oh my god because somebody else said had predicted it would be to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► weary 2015 when when it over to and she said no now it's gonna be two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► earlier than that it's gonna happen fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► you know I remember I looked her up again later and she's not with pyramid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► research anymore but she still is she still says she's still working in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► I not a not a debilitating it not a career-ending move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► I wonder what what phones people using Microsoft now today to that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► interesting question because they really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► it seems to me very clear that they are slowly winding down the whole windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► mhm like i'm not i don't know that they're going to quite give up on it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► completely but it just seems like they don't even don't even trying anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► yeah i mean you don't hear about it at all it just seems to me like if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► good company person and bought a windows phone like you're just a left out of so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► yeah no pokemon go for you i'm going to say yeah there's no pokemon go right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► it's I just can't help it into their mostly iphones I really do and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► kind of such a weird thing for Microsoft I don't think it's so weird for google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► but it's weird for microsoft will they but they I mean at least they have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► philosophy has changed to the degree that they don't have that windows only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► mentality anymore so right they are making and they're making some good apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► for multiple platforms so I mean I still like office but i have to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► sometimes every user for iOS yeah yeah actually you know I mostly for my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► when he needs to do because they get a license for free through school so often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► he's got an ipad that he will look great reports on well with you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► attached keyboard and and doing doing word and they were being a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► presentations in PowerPoint and stuff like that said I i I'm I'll often helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► him out with that stuff my kids school is google docs cool okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► that's such garbage I mean it makes it makes me wish it makes me wish for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► it's aight i really do they use chrome books they they have some in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► classrooms they do have some that which makes total sense as a google doc school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► you know I think I guess maybe most of that I guess most of the devices the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► kids have access to our Chromebooks yeah it makes I mean you know i would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► have a macbook any day but you know you are friends at math often will sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► refurbished Chromebooks and they're so crazy cheap it's um I keep I had often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► think i should get one just to just for the play around with the other than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► think even I like even a hundred and seventy five dollars is too much too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► don't know i know i dive i do that like every two years or so i buy an android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► yeah and I wish I would have got the nexus 6 and today i got the motorola [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► wood chipper or whatever it's called the one it's got a its like the Moto X or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► something like that but it's it you can get like a custom finish on the back so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► I i got the bamboo no seriously it's really made at my this fight in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► right now it's made out of wood which is interesting but it's it's so not a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► phone i saw a guy WTC my friend chad from MLB has two phones is iphone any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► added android is to test the MLB stuff on android too and he is a nexus 6 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► really nice it's a you know it's much thinner than that this mobile thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► anyway I don't see it as a waste of money I feel like it's it's a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► stay around I'm fearful of not knowing it and i have to say i am pretty I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► never really used a Chromebook kind of feel like I should I should spend 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► bucks and get 1 i'll keep an eye on math because you think you can get a refurb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► for real cheap and ISO media from schools perspective that makes complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► yeah i mean if you gotta get something that in the kids are basically just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► going to do write reports and and look things up and you don't want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► yeah for the most part so those devices are perfect I mean it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► most you remember that that whole olpc thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► yes yeah it's really succeeded at that where that did not didn't seem to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► yeah what was that one laptop per child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► yeah yeah and it was just you know it was he was just a piece of garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► whereas but maybe you know I think a big part of that was it's not the google has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► any kind of magic I think it's just Moore's law you know em like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► Moore's Law is famously you know sort of come to an end at the high end where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► know that clock rate on high-end cpus isn't really getting faster and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► there's only so much that adding more chips to paralyze can really improve but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► at the low end it continues to march on we're better and better hardware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► available at cheaper and cheaper prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► yeah i think the one thing that you know what you're gonna get you're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► yourself a samsung spin know how I don't thinks I don't think so did you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► that your that's a bridge too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► I that's if we can hold that topic that's an interesting topic but yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► chrome books for school I i do see this and you know I I'd Jonas says that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► ones that they have a terrible and it you know they're everybody hates them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► but I see the way kids treat stuff in school and they don't really treat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► with respect like apple doesn't really make a device that's good for school to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► buy i mean if if the cheapest thing you can get is an 8 99 macbook air that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► pretty expensive thing that kids are gonna you know bang around and drop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► and stuff like that like I think you know the idea that they're headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► no two hundred dollars is not disposable and I'm sure that everybody works in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► kind of school is gonna you know so yeah 200 bucks is you know you know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► budgets are tight it schools everywhere but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► you know it just makes a lot more sense yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► down boy google docs though it's I I find I don't even understand i honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► I don't understand the UI I really don't it'sit's just just doesn't work for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► when I mean it seems like it's let you know very reminiscent of those open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► yes yeah that's what is how exactly how I would describe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► yeah and I I don't use it much every night when i'm on the they use it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► in the incomparable to do scheduling endurance and some instant sharing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► like the topics for podcasts so when I clockwise my ways that's the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► only time i ever have to use it is because Jason uses google like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► spreadsheet to yeah you know you're supposed to log in and put your what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► oh my god that's the only time I ever ok we have to do it like that I don't do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► mean let's face it i'm hoping he doesn't listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► I i think that you know she would agree I'd I don't do much of the parenting she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► does a lot more the parenting and then idea and with stuff like dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► the school I I'd really do none of it but it's like every once in a while when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► there's some kind of shared you know parents are involved or are a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► example BTW a teacher conferences parent teacher conferences you got to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► google docs though and like sign up for a time and it it's so so bad but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► understand why they do it though because it is a you know it it works as a shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► spreadsheet where you're not going to run into a race condition where three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► people signed up at for the 1pm teacher conference right like as i type john and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► aimee and the 1 p.m. slot anybody else is in there would see it see those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► letters showing up so I understand that I understand the utility of it is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► people don't please don't write in and tell me that that's why you that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► totally get it as as a shared resource it is you know it it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► there's no syncing collision but as somebody who cares about the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► so the other fact we were talking about Google's iOS apps and how popular they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► are and how people who are in the Google ecosystem with their data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► well this is pretty good segue feel perfectly at home using an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► instead of android phone any other flip side of that is why i don't use any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► those apps other than the motion stills1 which just because of the utility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► share the the life photos as are our good friend Jason's now pointed out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► a month or so ago that googles apps are sort of he compared to Microsoft of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► the late nineties where their mac app started looking like the windows app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► in fact i think they even went to some kind of a shared code system for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► things you know where they were sort of a cross-platform you know look and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► type type stuff in office apps and googles apps for all that's one reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► don't use them is that they there then of them look like iOS apps they all look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► like android apps so there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► yeah like if there's one thing it seems to me like Google institutionally isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► really all that committed to android it it android might as well be a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► separate company except what the one thing google is committed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► company-wide is the material design look and feel whether they're doing stuff for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► the web or iOS or Android they're committed to that style of UI design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► that's where they have like a commitment and that you know annoys me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► yeah what about you use it use any google apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► everyone still use the gmail app but i'm trying to think I like i said i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► i want to get that one that the one that makes the animated gifts but I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► gotten around to it and cash bank mostly my son mostly uses a music he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► gmail account for email and he mostly uses the google and for that huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► yeah i think it's it's just it seems easier if you have a gmail account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► it feels much more straightforward than trying to to get it through mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► yeah I what do you use for email and Iowa I'm by mostly use mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► I almost like ninety-nine percent just use me every once in awhile if certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► fails me then I i used gmail or something and I tried a number of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► other applications but you know that you you seem to always get I've been burned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► too many times right i mean because sparrow and whatever the other one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► yeah forgot the one that was like the online you could consolidate all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► inboxes are actually has a name that one they both got bought right yeah and went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► away the only one I've seen that really temp mate tempted me and i still have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► here is called spark different diversity that one no it's because to me it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► that the thing that's nice about spark is that it looks like an an iOS app it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► looks like a very you know very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► I output in the show notes i think it's from raddle the people who make it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► known for like making PDF utilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► mm-hmm but if you just take a look at the screenshots of spark of for iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► you can see that it's like oh yes that looks like a that looks like a nice iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► app and here's a new story i just googled here so i logged in and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► been acquired its parts been canceled knows bark email I distance from eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► hours ago there's breaking news dissident bizarre coincidence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► some kind of thing where people if you're using it with your iCloud email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► you have to relog in for security reasons and it made people panic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► think that maybe spark it got hacked or something that's that's not true there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► is no hack but it's the day they switch something on your server side at AWS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► that made apple or I club freaked out and therefore just say hey everybody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► know you got a real log in any way to good app if you're dissatisfied with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3110">TS</a>]
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00:51:58 ◼ ► iOS app but the thing for me is I I like male I really especially on iOS i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► $FULLPHONENUM it you know works very well for me for email i understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► people can be very picky about their email but for me may I was is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► anything my mind needs are not complicated particularly truth be told I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► don't even read most of my email so really abimael works just behind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► delete the we believe Merlyn listens to the show I don't know I think I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► it's too late now so I i don't think i'll ever use it but uh when Merlin had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3148">TS</a>]
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00:52:42 ◼ ► how is going to make a parody and it was called select all delete and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► going to go into is good the server-side the detailed my patented email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► management system for keeping your your inbox empty might mean that by step I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► everyone mad my inbox management is to simply not delete anything every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► step of the process would be given an exquisite detail and the URL is select [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► all delete . com yeah yeah I think I think my inbox is up to 6,000 right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► and they're all red but they just don't go anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► i I'm not going to mention the name of this developer because it's it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► uncool but a couple years ago we were at WWDC and I was with the cable sasser of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► panic and we are talking about this this other developer had some very popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► apps and cable had just run into him the day before and after WC he was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► go on like a six-week hiking trip through New Zealand something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► it sounded like a you know if you want to be by herself as a computer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► somewhere beautiful six weeks all hiking and cable was under the impression that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► he was like a one-man show this other guy you know he was like oh i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3244">TS</a>]
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00:54:11 ◼ ► technical support and he just looked at him funny just said select all bleep if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3251">TS</a>]
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00:54:25 ◼ ► does i forget the details but is that he was dead serious wasn't joking didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► see anything unusual apart you know interesting about that he might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► even set up like an auto you know like he just set up a filter that just throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► everything in it you know he went and he wasn't sending out like an automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► didn't set up anything that say like I'm going to be away for six weeks get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3280">TS</a>]
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00:54:51 ◼ ► is like the only person in my business right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3291">TS</a>]
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00:55:01 ◼ ► true that very tragically writing where you know if I'm on our final-final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► vacation I'm still writing the bare minimum that I have to get by I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► reduce it but i din din often i'll stop podcasting yeah take a break from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► podcasts but but i still have to write something I don't know why I'd it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► mentally i find it i find it hard to do a podcast when i'm not at home like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► don't know why I like to do is pack microphone you know and there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► I don't need like I've got this fancy one hanging on a you know bendable arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► but I don't you know you don't need a podcast you just use like it any you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► know you go on Frank 15 bucks i have one even have a portable one but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► so old that it uses remember the before microUSB there was like a mini USB mhm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► and I don't ya take it it takes a mini-usb but many USB is so outdated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► that I can't find a cable for i'm sure i have one somewhere in my closet there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► you know but it's like at this point my last used mini USB cables so far down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► the stack of cables that I doesn't seem worth looking up but mentally I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► know how to find it a difficult i've done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► remember the one of it did the episode with the am Benjamin with the boats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► ok that's a doctor was like yeah you like dialed in right yeah you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► no I think I think I around I don't think going to do it out of like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► just doing it for my mind if I forget I did it it was it was low fidelity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► their boats and the doc it was actually kind of fun but i don't know i find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► oh yeah I way i know john and john armstrong it's it's you know turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► this car around he's pretty particular about about sound like i can imagine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► just had generated every time I think about like I could just take my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► he's not gonna like that I just . john was in philly six weeks ago or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► I don't know but sometime within the last two months and and Amy and I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► out with them and and is you know we have known for you obviously know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► he's a little tightly wound about something he's we're all obsessives I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► mean all of us are obsessed over some things baby when he gets obsessed about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► something it's like after yeah it and i think it you know I think it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► really making me makes it right sound better actually make makes the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► center so and it's bled over into other show I mean I've spent more I've spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► more on equipment and it's been a lot but I spent a little bit more and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► also like Ben I mean like I'm i'm recording on two machines right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► class of problems we've had in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► let me take another break here and thank our next sponsor it is the ministry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3473">TS</a>]
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00:58:11 ◼ ► it but the clothes we wear to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► aka the majority of the day everyday do nothing to help their stiff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3492">TS</a>]
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00:58:25 ◼ ► like modern gym clothes and making men's work where that's actually comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► and capable you take a look at it you'll never get doesn't look different looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► just like very stylish suits slacks shirts just look like regular modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► very stylish dress clothes but they make all of this stuff out of really modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► fabrics that breathe wick sweat and stretch as you move just go take a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► it's the URLs Ministry of supply.com / talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3534">TS</a>]
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00:59:02 ◼ ► stores in Boston and San Francisco and coming soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► washington d.c and if you go into one of the retail stores in one of those fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► cities i just mentioned the same thing that the code talk show and say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3550">TS</a>]
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00:59:22 ◼ ► off if you use that code talk show you can get in the retail store to added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► bonus all the clothes are machine washable you don't you don't have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► to the dry cleaner just to get the wrinkles out of your shirt just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► really great stuff i mean it's just one example they called the Apollo dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► shirt has NASA invented fibers that regulate body temperature based on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3578">TS</a>]
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00:59:46 ◼ ► ties into what i was talking about earlier in the show I didn't really very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► but anyway check them out sounds great to me sounds like a great idea and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3591">TS</a>]
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01:00:00 ◼ ► gym clothes you you know what I'm talking about it's great stuff so go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3600">TS</a>]
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01:00:12 ◼ ► pokemon go yeah have you have you told him I went I i did not have not played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► Jonas is a totally it as expected totally into it and so I had him explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3619">TS</a>]
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01:00:29 ◼ ► yeah you have played we have played so it's it's a thing we've been involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► the household and you know I could have said numerous different places but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► was it's been great because he's you know I mean often a kid doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► go for a walk right like getting off the couch and again going on run tying your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► previous covered in this time yeah right and this now he's just like you wanna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► Yusei gonna go look for some pokemon is let's go and at my experience you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► haven't gone out and try to do it like midnight but I walking around in town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► and going to places has been it has been fun and seeing other people and and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► everybody's been most everybody's been nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► we were walking walking along the waterfront with some friends in looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► for pokemon and a whole bunch of other people are doing the same and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3686">TS</a>]
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01:01:35 ◼ ► yelled no it's so you know not everybody's nice but for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3695">TS</a>]
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01:02:14 ◼ ► place like even just like going to the shopping districts district that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3734">TS</a>]
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01:02:29 ◼ ► off my is just that it's astounding so there's a previous game was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► ingress is that what it was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► yeah it's not even i had the same company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► ing ress and that was all that was also made by niantic yes and it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3764">TS</a>]
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01:02:58 ◼ ► pokemon go one point out you know this is like the to point out it's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3778">TS</a>]
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01:03:24 ◼ ► have you know emailed me after I wrote about pokemon go and said that they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► know they were really into ingress and said that it's you know it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3808">TS</a>]
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01:03:37 ◼ ► they got spun off for reasons that are unclear to me and but it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3817">TS</a>]
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01:04:27 ◼ ► actually develop the app you know they they produced it it's you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► that they you know it's worth talking about Nintendo and mobile games again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3871">TS</a>]
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01:04:45 ◼ ► thought I've thought nintendo should do for mobile phones for years with ya is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► not port and every time when it when this came up a couple years ago and I or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3889">TS</a>]
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01:04:59 ◼ ► it's like I feel like the black hole that discussion keeps getting kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► getting sucked down to was that des games are terrible without a real d-pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► and buttons and i agree with that I totally see you know that by mario kart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► you know unless you somehow did you know you'd have to have different controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► you have to have like motion controls or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3920">TS</a>]
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01:05:27 ◼ ► never as good with a fake the fake d-pad on a a non-iphone and so that's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3927">TS</a>]
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01:05:38 ◼ ► their des games to a touchscreen it's you know will come up with new game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► ideas that work on a touchscreen and do the end is pokemon go thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► couldn't be more exactly what i was thinking that they should do and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► things you know like well you've got gps and you've got a camera so why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► it's you know really really clever yeah it's it's it's also very buggy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► oh is it really hasn't complained about that really well at least it's been it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► been very buggy for for me and you know when my friends are playing as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3966">TS</a>]
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01:06:17 ◼ ► problem with the with the gmail and google account yeah you can sign in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► again you can become a member of the Pokemon trainers club by going to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3980">TS</a>]
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01:06:32 ◼ ► account which i wanted to do because i had signed originally with the google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► account and then you know it was revealed that it was granting way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► much access so i wanted to set up the trainer account and trainer club account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► and i finally got him but the but the problem is their servers are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► overwhelmed I guess yeah that we when we were out and about at one point person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► was very hard to create the account second of all when we were out that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► was just it would not could not be able to connect so you would log you out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4021">TS</a>]
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01:07:09 ◼ ► like walking on just give me that they had released the patch for the to reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► the amount of access that it had your google account so i thought i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► signed back in with my google account and network fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► it seems so curious to me that they would it that that they would have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► privacy i don't think was a security bug but it was my privacy hole where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► were you know give taking too much access to your google account it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► curious to me that the company used to be part of google you know you think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► anybody would get this right it would be them and and I know you know firsthand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► everybody's ever made any kind of online thing like identity is such a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► there's no good answer to the the identity problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► I mean rolling your own versus you know letting people sign in with twitter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► google or facebook or whatever there's flipside solve and I know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4077">TS</a>]
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01:08:07 ◼ ► big hassle yeah developing it isn't even beyond so beyond those things that we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► there are also numerous instances where we would capture a Pokemon and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► oh and you said you'd have to restart the app to get back in and then it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► you know it wouldn't remember that you had caught that Pokemon so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► obviously kind of annoying but the thing that is so amazing though is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4110">TS</a>]
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01:08:39 ◼ ► problems evident even stopping you I haven't stopped us from playing either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4119">TS</a>]
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01:08:56 ◼ ► you can buy you can get you can buy more pokeballs to capture more pokemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► although we have a we have a bouquet stop at the end of the street so i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► and dont feel like I have to worry about i don't play it so much that i'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► that many pokeballs I don't know that i'm not sure what else you can i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► assuming that you can buy things like eggs so that you can incubate your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► pokemon and maybe incense to attract pokemon and maybe maybe you can also buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► lures and things like that so i'm assuming that it's that you can spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► coins on things of that nature but I haven't I haven't bought anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► this part of my brain has obviously just a trophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4172">TS</a>]
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01:09:54 ◼ ► start did sports just does nothing for them and so they kind of hate sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► because whenever anybody else is talking about it it's just blah blah blah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► know that they don't they don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4202">TS</a>]
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01:10:28 ◼ ► it's better than looking for a model I like paying for the game up front I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4228">TS</a>]
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01:10:35 ◼ ► force awakens oh we got that we've played like crazy to which is super fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4235">TS</a>]
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01:10:59 ◼ ► video-game-playing time has been on the lego games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4259">TS</a>]
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01:11:12 ◼ ► they like xbox 360 version in the wii u version of lego star wars the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4272">TS</a>]
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01:11:32 ◼ ► you know played through it pretty quickly and I'm like oh if let's buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► season pass to get the extra stuff oh we can't that's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► so it's probably got and we got an eye on iOS and it's not all out on iOS yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► but supposedly that stuff will will will get eventually released iOS now I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► yeah i'm not a fan of the modern ones though where they started started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► talking I like well this is the one exception i think and the reason i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► it's an exception in this case is because they recorded a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4323">TS</a>]
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01:12:13 ◼ ► they were my life yeah i'm just making noises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► instead of using dialogue from the movies but I think they've they've upped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► their game significantly now because with this game they got everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► including Harrison Ford and recorded a whole bunch of new material and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► that is actually related to the gameplay so they'll say things like we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► get over there to connect those two things so that we can open the gate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► get through or whatever and I mean the that's actually they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4362">TS</a>]
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01:12:52 ◼ ► it's cool to be able to hear now it's the characters that you love from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► movie and you're getting to hear more of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4376">TS</a>]
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01:13:03 ◼ ► feel that i miss the old style where they they just demoted you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► like the sims I think and I think it's a fair comparison where they would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► you know put on quote speak with these mumbles that were like universal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► language so they wouldn't have to you know and and it to me it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► interesting thing as a to think about the writing challenge of making it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► clear that when the characters move that you know what what he's upset about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/4406">TS</a>]
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01:28:35 ◼ ► did an update and actually I maybe that's true because i think the iOS one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5315">TS</a>]
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01:28:53 ◼ ► experience was not nearly as good as the original iOS maps were the good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5333">TS</a>]
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01:31:44 ◼ ► watched mad men in its entirety twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5504">TS</a>]
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01:31:49 ◼ ► watched everything but the last season entirely twice so and I you know so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5509">TS</a>]
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01:37:06 ◼ ► and going you know assimilating back into regular life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5826">TS</a>]
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01:37:15 ◼ ► heat the show from like the back right four episodes and episodes and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► finally shows up toward the end or at least you don't like it you know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► than halfway through the first season and it's john him and it's great there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► were John inner-city I don't spoil too much but there's a trial and that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► jon hamm goes on trial for what he did and it really reminded me like and he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► represents himself as his attorney and it's so reminded me of of my all-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► favorite Simpson character which was Lionel Hutz the the Laura the ones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► played by phil hartman Oh philharmonia the Lionhearts was to me the funniest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► thing ever on the simpsons yeah you're the judge and I'm the law talking guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► what else is going on what else we have to talk about uh are you you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► guys are you submitting your sauce so yourselves for the planet of the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► oh no I don't get this at all i really don't know later I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► it's really something every night for well first of all i'm not i'm not a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► of reality TV right so not a good you know I may not be a good person to judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► well I kind of get it in in that it's a marketing tool for the app store i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► but so Apple insert eyes in that regard but it does it seem apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► co-producing upcoming reality show with with some production company that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► regular reality shows you know obviously has experience with it where it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► to be a bad about developers making apps and it just from what i know a reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► TV that's like it it's you know it's it's all this like emotional soap opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► stuff you know it's yeah it and and I can't think of anything I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► like the most like developing apps is it's not cinematic you know it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► of typing you know what are they gonna shower i don't get it i mean i may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► honest II Craig gonna see Craig Hockenberry sitting at a computer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5970">TS</a>]
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01:39:38 ◼ ► there taking applications and you have to go after willing to live in Los [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► Angeles for a couple months at the end of the year and they said please don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► sign up and you see the point of fact it was like please note sign up if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► can't do that if you can't commit like two months to like right maybe the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► maybe they may be the guy that decided he was getting into his email to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► New Zealand you can do it but well I can see how some you know developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► definitely especially young ones and maybe that's part of the gist of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► show is that it's you know the sort of 20-something demographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6009">TS</a>]
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01:40:19 ◼ ► did the strange part to me it doesn't seem so strange that somebody would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► a show about a problem but it seems strange to me that Apple is is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► co-producing and it's going to be so this is like the first original content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► you know to loop it back for the previous topic of the show that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► you know its original content that Apple is going to give out through the itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► store somehow and it just seems very strange that it would be a reality show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► when everybody else is exclusive content is stuff like Kimmy Schmidt and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► daredevil house of cards yeah daredevil house of cards you know it's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► these you know cinematic really good shape really gonna show us and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6054">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► great shows that are very compelling to watch and we're gonna have some guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► typing t-mobile is giving users a free year the year of free data to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6065">TS</a>]
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01:41:17 ◼ ► for pokemon go and oh that's a good point i mean i guess i'm just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6077">TS</a>]
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01:41:32 ◼ ► you're not on Team Laurie uh no not really I i add that might be I told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► have the the okay everybody's yeah my android is on a month-to-month tmobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► clip I think I fire going to switch I probably switch to t-mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6105">TS</a>]
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01:41:54 ◼ ► wrote a single casualty a year ago for maximum Tom's Hardware Tom and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6114">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► they were they were doing a series of like studies of who had the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► coverage in certain cities and I did there I did the testing for the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► seattle and spent a bunch of time you know driving around testing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► different carriers on some of these android phones and tmobile was was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► fastest but when i brought the first came home with the phones women getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6143">TS</a>]
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01:42:35 ◼ ► really an option really our only option where we are right now is verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► because we had the same experience with AT&T and we got one of those cells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► microcells and it didn't work for yeah those things are garbage yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► I don't have to test with this phone before I switch and see if it covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► everything I mean everywhere you are it's probably probably safe I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► probably is but it is such a better deal i forget what we pay for verizon but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6176">TS</a>]
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01:43:07 ◼ ► yeah and when they tell you it's fifty dollars a month you get charged fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► dollars like 50.7 dollars which is amazing to me but it gives its fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► dollars a month and you get three gigs and you get your beer credit card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► notification that I get a notification that my credit card was charged 50.0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► dollars tmobile but it wasn't I mean I mean i think what i'm getting a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► and better deal with verizon i feel like because we added Hank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► and.and he does not use a small amount of data and sometimes that's a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► but we're still paying I think we're paying less than we were a year ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► tell you what Jonas did so Jonas we have 15 gigabytes of share data among the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► three of us on verizon and but Amy and I want a not only three times what we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► and it's the three times more than we used most months and I just but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► grandfathered in it's almost like it's like the verizon version of the old AT&T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► five-unit your unlimited they all get unlimited which I better a surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► number of people are still hanging onto Paul was for a long time I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► I think he finally got off i think Casey list is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► I somebody I think Casey list i have somebody was talking on a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► recently about how they're still hanging onto it which drives me I can't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► anybody does it because you can't tether like I don't care how much you love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► at the unlimited data plan that yeah i don'ti but tethering is so important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► I mean I'm little i told you i'm literally tethered to my verizon phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► the show without alright that's how we're recording this show ah it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► essential to my mobile computing it's ridiculous but anyway uh it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► grandfathered in it like a better rate than you can get now for 15 gigs and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► came and i flew out to California for WWDC Jonas had just gotten a school that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► you know friday before was his last day of school and he was with Amy sister for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► the week and up on like the monday WATC I got a notice from verizon that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► used up 14.9 gigabytes of our 15 gigabyte plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► and our billing cycle ends on the twelfth meaning it ends on the twelfth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► of july a month later so it's literally like that like the first day of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► billing cycle Jonas used like 15 15 gigabytes of data in like 48 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► ah i said i didn't know what this in a and I realize like in the old days like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► I feeling maybe as a test like at first there was a moment where I was furious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► at this is the angry because he he's a smart kid he knows what wife is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► smart enough to know what you know knows what Wi-Fi is he just never got on got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► on their Wi-Fi went on their Wi-Fi when he got there just watching non-stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► high-definition youtube for ya 48-hour right right i mean that's a lot though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► even even with its new and we even watching at home in 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► you know well then I got I kind of got proud I was like well that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► kind of a you know my head is 15 games of data 48 hours like you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► like the equivalent for the baby book like you know Jonas isn't very good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► sports but you know it's sort of like you know hit for the cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► he's very good at using data very good at using data but I figured out that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► never gonna charge me I forget what it is but it's like once you go over you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► have to pay for every gigabyte and I knew it was going to be a fairly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► know if the whole WWDC week was enemy where we would you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► repeat the week where we're at disney world was in their house I just gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► an extra pair this is like them take them he did this on the day of the month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► it's starting on the billing cycle we probably actually this is the time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► actually use the 15 gigs in fact I remember it was at disney world one here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► where i upped the apt our plan to the 15 kick plan but I checked and upgrading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► that you can temporarily upgrade to a higher plan like Verizon is nice about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► yeah we can go to 20 or 25 or something like that but once you do i I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► ever go back down to this 15 big plan we how was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► longer exists and I figured that we're gonna it would be better to just pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► like like seriously like an extra hundred and fifty dollars this month for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► all of our over but we'll make up for it and look we really would make up for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► in the long run as long as we stay in verizon oh my god and of course now here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6462">TS</a>]
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01:47:56 ◼ ► not yell at Jonah's I feel like this is where I'm a good parent like I'd you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► know by the time I I i conversed with him about the situation I was calm and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► started guy I was just you know and similar tone that I am now I mean what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► are you gonna do but I I just remember when I was a kid if I had done something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► like that that it that it resulted in our family having to pay at a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► and fifty dollars for something that I could have done for free just by turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► on Wi-Fi and logging on to divide to his aunt's house Wi-Fi I ikea my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► would have I I mean they would I I they might have had a stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► I mean and yeah i can just imagine my dad would be so mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6516">TS</a>]
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01:48:47 ◼ ► really but it's just technology and giving them access to this stuff is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► he was living he was a little kid he he spent I mean he didn't like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► that purchase thing where he got like coins for paper toss or something was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► like you know some ridiculous game and spend like a hundred fifty bucks i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► yeah i think i told you that and then oh and then like did you call about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► what you'd pay it or did you call apple and and I think that when I got I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► back they think they refunded that they refunded most of it or something i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► remember like I decided I I think what I decided was that some of it should be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► me because I let you know I'll i wasn't doing the password log out thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► know they gave him his ipad you know i bought the thing for me because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► he wanted like you know it's like ten ten dollar coins or something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► fine yeah and so I got him got him some coins and then he was like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► still logged in click click click and I I I think what I did was like I decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► some of it i would split like that was on part of it was on me so I paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► half of it and and they refunded me the other half or something like that Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► and then and then we the other thing that happened last year was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► last just last year i think it was he wanted to he wanted a book on I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► kindle book and so I'll i got onto his laptop this was a terrible mistake i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► his laptop and and you know Gandhi amazon and bought in the candle so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► could get it onto his ipad and then I you know in my credit card information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► was left there and so he was still logged into amazon he was just like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► I don't think he knew exactly what had happened he may probably did but he put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► a couple things in the cart and clean them alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► no no these are going back and that's I admire them for that you know i mean are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► you know unfortunately that 1i that what it was like when the enemy so now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► thing is like if you go if we go over i like I'd like I figure like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► gigabytes we mostly spent our time in the house all you know i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► particularly in the in the summer way we have access to Wi-Fi and and yet I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► planning our plans like five gigs and then like if we go over and you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► most of it you're paying for the overage and that's what that's our deal so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► comes out of his allowance the fee Jonas has too much he has i dislike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► parenting episode of the show he has a surprising amount of of cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► and it's all accumulated from like birthdays and and Christmas yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► yeah hey yeah i mean he's he literally looks like he's going to Atlantic City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► to gamble like he's got like like a wad of cash and a roll like a rubber band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► around it because it's like we do make him like if he wants to do like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► in-app purchase or something if he wants to get like a ten dollar upgrade for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► playstation game or whatever it's like okay would you know I'll ok it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► know you gotta give me 10 box and yes like when he takes out that it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► never had money like that i remember when i was like 12 result I the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► money I ever had at a time was was like enough to buy like a Hot Wheels car like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► that yeah and they were days to be about 22 bucks like like buying a Hot Wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► car at kmart with bike bankrupt me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► yeah I mean I feel like maybe i would scrape together 15 bucks or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► like that but for the most part yeah and then Hank is similar though because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► becomes in fits and spurts and I think it usually is like he's usually very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► flushed because his birthday is near Christmas so he's usually very flesh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► come January but he is also spent like I mean sometimes you just like he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► won't buy anything for a great stretches of time and then he'll build up like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► mean there have been a number of times where he's had like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► hundred-dollar bill just liner was working for her more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► I never have a hundred-dollar bill we squandered our you youth going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► playing Sandlot baseball we should have been in the house click the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► hundred-dollar bills I i did not make him pay the overage it just it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► was a mistake and is a lot of money but yeah if it happened to well that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► yeah I mean I the first the first one is fine but after that and and what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► you already had already gone over once so this wasn't ever that's our new day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► that's our new deal we've had this discussion before I was like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► not having this discussion again you have got to realize that you don't watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► you don't go into one of your YouTube fever dreams fuchs what is he what is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► watches you watch play with people playing games is that I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► mostly people playing games i I'd whenever I look at the screen it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► always like people playing games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► yeah yeah Hank is Hank has gotten into like we went to an arcade he loves going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► to these arcades and playing these coin games which i can't stand mostly but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► watches people play these things on YouTube and so we went yesterday to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► of these you know goofy arcades mode you know most of the games of which i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6835">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► i can't bear but I there was this one game where you just drop these balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► into a into this thing that's going around that has these holes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► balls going to the holes in there you know whatever you number you get you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► and then they give you these tickets right yeah when you go to exchange the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► tickets for some crap but he had been watching he had apparently been watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► somebody who figured out like the best way to play this game on youtube and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► was like it was like one of those things with the tickets were just like pouring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► out of the machine but when Hank I was able to like replicate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► yeah oh my god yeah already nearly it was the kind of thing where instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► like putting your coins in like one coin and then letting the game play out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► then put another coin in you just shove like five coins in succession and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► because I guess the way the balls like event you know you'll get a ball in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► good hole because if there are a number of balls and play at any given time your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► chances of getting into a good hole or better because they're all going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► whereas if you drop one ball you could get you could get a crappy hole every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► single time but if you drop like 10 balls one of them's probably go into one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► that's a really high number and then you can take the tickets up and get candy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► oh yeah and then I get this place is not just their gifts were pretty lousy RK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► don't know what they used to be John now they're not what they used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► well we didn't we didn't get prizes at all not arcade but then there's a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► the beach where that had that we this place that we go to the beach has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► great arcade and the prices are pretty good but this place was pretty crappy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► he ended up with a whole bunch of tootsie rolls unit with a laser pointer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► and a bunch of tootsie rolls and Jonas had a party it was at a birthday party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► at a place like that sometime last few months and when we picked him up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► everybody was just cashing in tickets for candy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► yeah nobody was looking at the toys all can down yeah that's what you mean he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► wanted to get nothing but candy but I was like now you should get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► get something else just candy you're lying around the house you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► yeah anything else I don't know if you did you want to circle back to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► oh yeah I guess we could do that right probably didn't we we alluded to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► yeah that's actually good topic so I i linked to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► a review forget who wear it was where was a gizmodo please modo reviews the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► samsung notebook seven spin alex cranz was was the reviewer and it like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► so presumptuous he said Apple take note this is what people are actually looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► for a laptop under a thousand bucks and it looks like a fine windows laptop but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► it is it looks to me a lot like a 34 year old macbook pro graver thicker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► well it's huge it's very huge and then playing and that's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7017">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► where it's like I don't know sometimes I don't know when to stop it's like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► short link piece and you know I was doing it from my phone but I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► this is one of those ones where i could take it apart you know do the old-school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► thing where a quote as much of it as I want and yeah you know make fun of HSN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► because I got somebody like he goes on and on the beginning and the end about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► how great this machine is and then I want to me it's like I think it's a she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► I think it's oh I don't know our I didn't even think about that i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► like it i could be i hope i didn't use anything but i didn't use any programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► so i didn't really talk about Alex so he or she say she but at one point comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► her anyway she uses her she uses her and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► yeah so okay so my apologies to alex cranz five pounds it's like so heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► it's a good idea and and she even talks about how its if it's kind of heavy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► clunky when it has like it has like a like a keypad right it has that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7074">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► number key add because that because the thing is so big board is actually like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► full desktop writes that his keyboard that would bother me one reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► would bother my like I don't really need to keep adding do a lot of spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► work but i would not have an aeros over there but it would bother me to have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► yeah well and that's the thing that I've noticed i mean so Hank has it he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► lenovo which I can't stand but and and you know it is a perfect example of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► lousy plastic laptops are because he's rough on everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► yeah but if he you know just by opening and closing the the little lot broke the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:44 ◼ ► yeah and so I mean fortunately we send it mean they they actually fixed it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7124">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► free which was nice but I just in in but now he's now he's out on like he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► to you want to be with a laptop that's all metal which is really like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► want a windows laptop is that is not easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► yeah yeah they have a lot of ones that look like metal but they're actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► you know so this thing is this thing is is five pounds so it's a it's a half a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:10 ◼ ► pound heavier than the 15-inch macbook pro and is made of plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7150">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► yeah i wrote here's what i wrote any laptop thick enough for an ethernet port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► is too thick and a lot of readers pushback because you know it's me being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► a little confident confrontation but you know just being short and sweet but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► i mean by that I understand the whole idea that there are people who would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:35 ◼ ► you know I a lot of readers I got a lot of emails from people saying well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7175">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► would gladly take a thicker laptop that got better battery life I don't carry it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► that much it doesn't bother me I've got so much other crap in my bag you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► isn't that big a difference I don't get apples obsession with than this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► what are they gonna do keep making them going until the macbook is as thin as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► ipad actually i think yeah that is Apple's goal like I'm for writing sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7194">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► perspective here saying that any laptop they confront ethernet ports to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► it's certainly i'm not trying to say that that's a universal truism and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► there's nobody who would actually prefer i think your laptop that got better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► I'm saying because that's the to me the gist of the review from gizmodo was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► presumptuousness of trying to say that the angle that got me I wouldn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:19 ◼ ► notice the review if it wasn't written from the perspective of samsung has made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7219">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► the laptop apple should be making which i think is almost literally what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► wrote where it's like this is somebody who has I no idea what Apple's design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► philosophy and goals like they do not want to make a thicker Mac yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► it's just it's a market that are not in all right i mean it's it's it's a cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► you know it's a maybe it's a good it's good for that class but it's not a class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► it's the same same thing with the phones I mean like I know that there are plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► of people listening to me talk right now who would be happy to buy a new iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzD3yGM/7256">TS</a>]
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