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the incomparable number 245 make 2015
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welcome back everybody to be
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uncomfortable podcast I'm your host
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Jason smell and this is a very special
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edition of the uncomfortable we all went
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well all those who are going to be on
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this episode went together and watched a
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film in a movie theater and now we are
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gathered around the table eating pizza
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and drinking that various beverages to
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discuss with you
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avengers age of ultron his age is very
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low he was just created the other day
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joining me on this field trip an
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adventure are the following wonderful
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people Tony sindelar is here hello Tony
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I just that yeah are you not gonna go
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get you moved on pasture catchphrase and
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I'm i'm not a machine
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Oh fair enough John Syracuse's here
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hello John going out of order you've got
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us around the table literally and you
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just skipped well there's there's
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there's I got reasons there's moving
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microphones around all right it's like
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typing is around like around his piece
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of technology you go opposite corners
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that way all lines up by the time you
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finish we've already learned several
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lessons including you need to talk into
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the microphone or nobody can hear you
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and we're completely out of order Dan
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Morgan is also here hi Dan
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hi Jason welcome to my fine home thank
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you thank you for inviting us or for not
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turning away when we just barged in I
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tried there was no option yeah Andy and
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I know you heard earlier not talking you
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didn't hear earlier not talking into a
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microphone now he will talk into a
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microphone hello I'm sorry I'm not used
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to being in such a fine fine environment
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for podcasting as this sofas tables i'm
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usually just there within my own filth
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on your on your in Lonesome email you
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all may remember Andy from that episode
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of the uncomfortable where he said that
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the Avengers was a b-minus movie and
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everybody lost their minds I a 20-2
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literally you said b-minus b-minus the
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phrase it's a good lights on a level of
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a transformers move on thats that's what
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i think i lost my I think that was it
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matter that's what I tried to reach
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through the microphone and that doesn't
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work and serenity couples also hello
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hello i'm eating pizza right now
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well aren't we all but that's that's
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part of the fun that's part of the fun
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of of of the age of Ultron the age of
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Ultron includes pizza Ultron supports
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pizza so we saw movie it was the
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Avengers had lots of stuff in it
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anybody want to get started with some of
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their impressions about the age of
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Ultron tony do you have any thoughts
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Tony's giving me the stink eye
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do you do that all the time when I ask
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you questions and you just can't see it
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yeah you can see it that's my Jason's
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talking voice so I well I just saw it so
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I'm still processing it but i enjoyed
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it's time for a podcast about products
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concerned about putting man was you know
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it was your pretty standard exciting
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lots of CGI action movie things lots of
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robots getting destroyed so people who
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are robot may not want me this movie
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you may have you may be upset that
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trigger warning for people who love
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robots right so let's let's talk about
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that you talk about the explosions and
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things blowing up i think that might be
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a good place to start
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one of the things that struck me about
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this movie is it is it is a summer
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blockbuster economy right so there are
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lots of explosions and things but Jason
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I would say the stuff that happens in
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between the explosions is probably more
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interesting and possibly better
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that's what that's what i was going to
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get at is I i am i am happy that there
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were not give that man a microphone
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I'm happy that that there are explosions
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because movies with explosions are fun
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that said I i think the I think the
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strength of this movie that I felt was
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that I i we know these characters we've
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seen him in a lot of movies there were
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interactions that were helped by having
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a history with the characters they they
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uh there were some funny interactions or
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some interactions that I liked I I
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enjoyed that in the moments sometimes I
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see movies like this that are
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blockbusters and in the moments between
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the explosions I am just bored and
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wanted to go to the next explosion and I
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didn't feel that in this movie now Andy
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and I coach holding a microphone so he
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I'm now I see the rest of my time to him
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know i just i was i I like this more
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than I like the first movie and because
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we really were all the podcast is over
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here yeah it's not because I'm getting
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free pizza out of the people that get
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out of the first time that I saw them to
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yes a little disclosure i'm in the
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pocket of deep and completing that
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yeah but yeah i did like remember that
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the one I really didn't like about the
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first one was that I was sincerely bored
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to tears two-thirds I just completely
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had checked out and friend i still think
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this movie had a lot of problems but I
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think with the reasons why i did like it
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more was that they were a lot of these
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moments where they're going to say
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there's gonna be no explosions we're
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going without without any spoilers of
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any kind
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we're gonna have a
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lot of rich scenes and which characters
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get to really get inside their own heads
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and have conversations and that's when
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this movie got really interesting for me
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yeah i agree that John what do you think
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I'm giving my opening statement but if I
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had one it would be it's a very little
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time to prepare an opening statement do
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things well I didn't realize he was
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using he was in a car is writing where r
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SS card so that blue car what i told you
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at the end of the movie is exactly what
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I felt when I was watching the movie
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this is the giant fu de zack snyder and
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Superman sounds like the beginning like
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only taken a couple of jabs at him
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actually another jab actually not
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actually the main theme of this movie
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because he's making Superman movies
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wrong let's save people in the in the in
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the cities and worry about the little
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let's do it together it great yeah and
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so but I know when I was 14 and the
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second impression was that boy there are
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a lot of things this movie there's a lot
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of characters yeah a lot of things
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happen it's just a tremendous amount of
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stuff and seeing it the second time i'm
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looking at how they put it together and
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like its amazingly jandals crap in but
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at some point it's like you have too
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many characters you have too many people
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in this movie you have too many things
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taking place and I think they did an
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admirable job of sewing it all together
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but i don't know if you can sustainably
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make a really great movie with this much
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wrapping it at one point is this a
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completely different John right i mean i
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read a couple articles that that weren't
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reviews but said it's kind of like
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watching an entire season of a TV shows
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and boiled into a movie and I understand
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that the first cut of this movie was
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more than three hours long and included
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way more character stuff and they just
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cut you can't make a movie that long and
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so i can actually would like to see that
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but but at some point in the shandra you
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are selling your ticket you're selling a
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ticket in a movie theater you can't do
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the seven hour long Avengers that would
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probably be pretty good because it would
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then be a joss whedon TV show me serious
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yeah absolutely i mean i actually think
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despite the fact that this movie is
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jam-packed full of stuff they really did
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do an admirable job at making it a fun
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interesting movie to watch like I think
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about some of the other you know really
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big ensemble movies that kind of fall a
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little bit more flat on their faces or
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certain characters don't get shaded out
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or flashed and I'm like I'm looking at
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this movie and some of the characters
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that we really haven't seen get enough
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screen time
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Hawkeye being one of them actually gets
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a fully fleshed-out backstory in the
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middle of all of this insanity and I'm
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like wait how did that just have we have
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the following 12 other people were
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battling robots we have time to learn
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about like what he's like behind the bow
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and arrow like and linda cardellini when
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did she become a mom figure I remember
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when she was just a little high school
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kidding freaks and giveaways goddamn
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bargain for MVP of this movie because a
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yokai got totally unreal like he got the
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shaft in the first movie not perish oh
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thank you thank you i'll be here always
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but i think that you're told here all
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week because you think about Scylla here
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well you know it's the flipside of
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putting up you know a lot of people
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looked at daredevil on netflix and said
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like this reads like a 13 hour movie
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well obviously reads like a three-hour
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TV show right like that's kind of I
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totally agree with you Jason that this
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is kind of a different genre in that way
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and it felt like if they could convince
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stars that big and get a budget that big
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for TV they would have done it on
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teacher or netflix and maybe some point
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in the future that will be a thing
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because Netflix seems to be really
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interesting programming I don't know I
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thought maybe they should have just made
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the four hour long version and cut it
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into and sold two tickets for it that's
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the plan for the next one it's not a
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movie everyone it's not it's not a film
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right it's part of an extension like the
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Harry Potter movies which felt like
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episodes of a TV show
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yeah but the Harry Potter movies you
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they are like they are explicitly saying
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this is ace one story in seven parts and
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if you start with part one and again
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truck on through that you'll get the
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whole story
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my problem with the but my overarching
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problems with today's movie was like
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with most Marvel movies
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coherence is not their focus is not
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there there are times where i was saying
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on the way in that I would I wish there
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were a way you could buy ticket to
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adventures where I will give them fifty
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percent of whatever it would have cost
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me to buy all the tickets to all the
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other movies I need to see all the other
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dvds i need to go through to understand
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everything that's going on in this movie
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like okay so she'll doesn't exist a mark
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was Hydra and why does that not do
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anything and make feet wet with next
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theory how come he's not in ok
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it all makes sense but you do have to
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have seen captain america the winter
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soldier and investment you know they
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have like a blank check in this movie
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that's the problem like the feeling you
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get with these movies is like I really
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Jason I feel like this is unsustainable
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you can't keep doing this like this i
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the user interfaces you will get one
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unit of entertainment for ten dollars or
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two and a half hours assignment I and
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this is what i'm saying is i like the
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ambition of it like that Marvel really
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something that I mean and yes the its
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commerce to the first movement billion
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dollars but it is the ambition of like
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what if we can tell these stories over
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many many movies but it it's no longer a
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movie at that point and I i really
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past adds to your appreciation of them
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like serenity said you know seeing
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seeing clint barton and his family
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zombie for most of the movie he gets a
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lot of character service at this time
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enjoyed all the characters that that's
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nothing that i will take away from this
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movie more than anything else is that
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that Joss Whedon did a really good job
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of making every moment with those people
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when they weren't blowing things up
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matter in some way and as a fan of Star
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they're like well we gotta give her
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something to do
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she'll put a guy in a closet but by
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threatening to shoot him with a phaser
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seven characters and here they have like
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a billion characters and yet somehow I
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feel like they did a decent job of
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giving them all some stuff to do and
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some funny lines and some character
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motivation and that's it that's a neat
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trick in the context i feel like this
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very similar to the first movie in the
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sense it's like it's a big corporate
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Fandango where everywhere it's got a
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million characters and how could this be
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entertaining and answers oh actually
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given this structures here did a pretty
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good job you know given the track record
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I'll call sign they're blank check more
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or less like I think it's okay to have
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the sort of open ended it goes on
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forever type of thing but I think the
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problem
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home with the Avengers as an idea as a
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franchise is that is necessarily the
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superhero movie with a whole bunch of
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superheroes in DC ever gets their
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justice league thing they'll have the
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same damn problem or x-men right next
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one I think it works better because that
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kind of their techs minutes one universe
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my family like several interactive noun
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right but you can't like the individual
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Marvel movies I like Captain America the
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individual movies better than this movie
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like all the individual ones i like i
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like better than it's like instead of
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putting all the other you less than the
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sum of the parts i'd rather see movies
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focusing on because if you have just one
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movie about Captain America get to enjoy
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captain america my seam here I like yeah
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like that guy from the movies great
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captain america but the same is true I
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don't you know I like environment he's
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great iron man and maybe I like scarlett
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johansson is a black widow too but like
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another on the same movies flowers the
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other to get up you know me like and
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that i want to see like if you want to
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do this if you want to take like hey we
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have all these great guys and movies
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let's put them in this thing without go
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together you need to do is a TV series
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you can't put them on a single movie now
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I mean they're trying to get those
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moments where they interact with each
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other because they are the stars of
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their own movies now get to interact
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with each other and that can be very
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funny Thor really was well handled in
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this movie to that you get the whole
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thing with the man he doesn't do a lot
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he gets to be quickly but he's not real
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but yeah he has no he has no arc which i
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think is ok because many of Thor's
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movies bore me to tears so that he
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introduces the ark for Avengers 3 and
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the next year's of Marvel and that's
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pretty gay to everybody I mean that is
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pretty huge an unfortunate is it is
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narrative dressing and he and someone
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has to be the person to do it but I
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think the way and that that was all set
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up was very well done where I like the
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fact that we get introduced to i forget
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what was the actual name of scarlet
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witch was her character named one yet so
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I heard assemble that we get introduced
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to a lot of few potential future events
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through windows
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I you know psychic brain alterations and
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the fact that we finally get a name for
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the Infinity stones and it's the
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infinity gems and it said and it's like
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oh yeah this is a thing
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this is dangerous heads up everybody
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remember those things that we've seen in
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previous Marvel movies this is gonna be
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a problem and then we get a mid-credits
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scene of oh yeah this is really going to
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be four
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problem you know and so I don't know I I
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feel like despite the fact that it was
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super packed every single member of the
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Avengers had a qualified arc mostly I
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mean I'm still kind of I rolling at both
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Natasha and the Hulk in terms of like I
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actually think that was very sweet i
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think the the romance ark was done very
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well but you take that out and I'm like
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okay what actually what what is
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natasha's arc here aside from a couple
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of really awesome black widow flashbacks
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now i really want that movie that's
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never gonna come because holy crap
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um that those those few moments I was
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like oh man I just yeah that would be
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beautiful but yeah and then you get
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Bruce Banner we we talk about the
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lullaby and we talked about a couple of
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other things I'm like when did all of
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this happen because I've seen all the
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movies and none of this is a thing this
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Hulk doesn't get his own movies either
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anymore now in that chance that wouldn't
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be a great movie The Black Widow Hulk
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underground we should do that mr. you
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said come between administrative netflix
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from the search the search for the Hulk
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honey I'm Hulk but you put your problem
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hakkasan movie The Hulk smash it was all
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these two of his own meets everybody's
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match you hit upon one of the things i
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like so much more about this movie the
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last 1i thought the last one that
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Natasha was sort of the 21st century
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version of a poorly drawn female
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character where she really is there to
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be strong and a Buttkicker and have no
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different no depth whatsoever and not a
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catsuit the zip up to the neck
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whereas i feel as though they real they
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they allowed her to show weakness and
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then go over her weakness and show why
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she is so good at her job you can only
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do that by throwing this character
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character into situations in which that
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you don't know if they're gonna be able
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to get out of that ok and that's
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something that was that was brand-new I
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think for this movie you can roll your
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eyes at the well okay we're prepared
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these two characters together in Tasha's
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expressing romantic feelings for Bruce
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Banner but but it was the what was good
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about it is it was a pathway into some
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character understanding for the Black
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Widow which I really liked where she
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says you're the guy who tries not to
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kill people and everybody else I know
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tries to kill people
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I like to have
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her like in the captain america movie in
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particular Winter Soldier she was laid
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off as like her whole thing in the
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beginning was like he playing you or is
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she not can you trust her if you're
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really on Nixon very secret mission over
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here in this movie she was allowed to be
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vulnerable like for the first time where
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you where you didn't think the movie was
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trying to fool you into thinking that
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she wasn't really like it was legitimate
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and what she had was doubts about her
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job like maybe I could go live someplace
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else and not kill people for a living
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that she couldn't have kids made her
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think well I guess I'd better just
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killed you know that's there are two of
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them are like you know we should blow
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this popsicle stand like that we don't
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want to be in the Avengers anymore
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they're their particular down and drama
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is private from everybody else which i
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like more or less and that it involves
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something non-superhero it's like you
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know this is my grave knowing i saving
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the world i also like that we spent so
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much time in this case with the two
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normal human characters right both Black
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Widow and Hawkeye get a lot of screen
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time and a lot of story and both of them
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were under utilized in the first movie
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and we've seen at the standalone movies
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for iron man and for Captain America and
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forth or and so in some ways it's ok if
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they don't get as much screen time
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because i started going to because Tony
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Stark is always going to be the prima
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donna and but it's nice to see the
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characters who don't get their own films
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we actually get a while urgent
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screentime kind of felt like this was
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the first time that Black Widow and
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Hawkeye get to have basically wants and
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needs and are just being sent places by
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Nick Fury yeah you know like they get to
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actually do stuff and have interested
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turns out you know Quinn's been doing
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stuff on the side for a long time that
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now we have to find out about that he's
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not just I'm being sent places by Nick
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very Island arrow and explains his his
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loyalty to Nick Fury to that is like
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it's that he's at this thing out in the
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country and that that seen as it is it
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is important dramatic structural thing
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right that is the they get their butts
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kicked they have to recede and lick
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their wounds and think about what
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they've done and then realize they've
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got a new plan of attack and and uh I
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like that I like that scene and I like
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the fact that the Hawkeye is a has a
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family and all that in there i also like
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that it's the it's that disconnected
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like we can literally can't be
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superheroes right now we just need to be
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people mr and yeah and I thought that
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was I thought that was fun and effective
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we will continue this conversation mode
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right now i'm gonna live in a room with
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all right now normally i read that and
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then people just keep talking but now
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we've had a pause so I have to I have to
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throw something else out there did
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people have more of a topic i judge john
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big movie a lot of stuff and a lot of
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the movie talk about mechanically and
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YouTube videos from people about doing
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actions different ways and what do you
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guys think of the actions you how
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personal how would you categorize these
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and in the continuum of like old style
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movie vs modern shaky-cam versus a
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million cuts horrible i thought the
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action scenes were mostly terrible
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there's no sense for me there was no
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sense of rhythm or flow there's no sense
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of geography
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there was no sense of purpose to the
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scenes was basically explosion sexual
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aspect explosion of special-effects so
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to basically put both my hands up just
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like Huh What
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okay so who's shooting what women had a
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black widow get there but I just I was
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just so lost by a lot of the special a
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lot of the action see I don't think
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they're well we'll handle it all
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think they were quite as good as the
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first movie in terms of the way that
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they were shot and like the mechanics of
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them some of them are quite spectacular
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impression of things and you did but i
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do think that at sometimes it was hard
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to follow some of the action because it
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felt like there are a lot of cuts there
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was i I give you heard there was the
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geography and sometimes did feel a
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little bit lacking from that right from
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that opening fight all the way through
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the last one last one is is obviously
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weird because you'd like a gigantic
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set-piece right that's like all right
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last time we did in New York City now
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we're doing like this gigantic like
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floating Rock you know so i felt that
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got geography was a lot clearer in the
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floating Rock I felt like yeah it's that
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was down a little and there were some
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very clear provocative action happening
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film where with the problem is you know
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collective noun and obvious obviously
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has some of his earlier perhaps robots
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were not very good because they can like
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shoot them a couple of times and they
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die they're like zombies or
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stormtroopers exactly think they're
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based on stormtrooper technology because
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an Ultron robot in the face and oh my
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god destroyed a bunch of the face by hum
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yeah yeah so my kind Barton punches you
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but I felt like I felt like we haven't
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earned the title of Ultron man if I had
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destroyed the planet five times over
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because we want realities you Andy yeah
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so it's over so far anyway I did feel
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like being on the floating rock was a
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little bit clearer
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yeah i mean it was unclear although it
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did take me about five to ten minutes
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into that fight to realize that they
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were all on the floating rock and some
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of them were on the city below which is
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what I initially thought it happened
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because there was a hole i can remember
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if it was Captain America or someone was
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like alright those of you on the ground
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do that
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because there was a hardware they were
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evacuating the city but then there seem
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of the city right is already over the
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religious center
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to alleviate here from there and you
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literally take part of the ground and
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rip it out you would think that would be
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the easiest way and yet haven't seen
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this movie twice i can tell you it's
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confusing
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who's on what side of the thing and who
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like I don't know how they managed to
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blow that because that's the easy one
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carrier and you're trying to evacuate a
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a floating Rock what you do is you move
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landing strip right up and butt up and
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move everybody right on like on a little
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loading dock you don't send really tired
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now you don't send really delicate
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little like hover parties back and forth
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no no you don't have pictures page of
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logistics since we're talking about this
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thing though and we brought up before
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about how much of it seemed to be like a
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middle finger towards towards the
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of just like their approach for opposite
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reasons that where Superman is we're
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gonna tear down this entire building and
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we're not gonna care like what was
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inside it and there's there is an actual
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shot scene in which oh my God look at
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that 10-story building to scan for
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life-forms there's only three people in
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there and they're all home together
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we're not going to let this floating
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city destroyed until we get every last
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person of these thousand people only but
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there's one kid we need to get we missed
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one kid
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yes so you know IIF it's very
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unrealistic but I actually we watching
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this movie and i have seen those Exner
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film but are not the next is home but
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the the previous Superman I don't
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necessarily think it's so much a nephew
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to Superman as I think all of the
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Avengers have PTSD from what happened to
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New York but there that's that's where
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that's what i was getting the major vibe
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from that especially start especially
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well yeah well yes Tony Stark has quite
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a visual PS PTSD which we see both in
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this movie in another movies but I I
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really feel like the impetus to like no
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one dies today you know the Doctor Who
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style vibe is very much
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because they're all very aware of how
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the world sees them post new york i have
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to say um and this is a one of the
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reasons i like a movie like Cloverfield
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is that I felt like it was the it was
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the first really look like a post-911
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Godzilla movie and was like what happens
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when you blow up buildings we know now
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and it's not all fun
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I i feel like the 10-story construction
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site for the that they that they plowed
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into with Ultron I thought that was a
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little too close to home that was
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basically a 911 everything doesn't cloud
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and everything see that in the movie
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though here's the delicious was on the
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nose like exactly 11 but like you said
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we do we know how that what that looks
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like now so if the script says that they
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collapsed building the people who make
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moving on
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alright well let me know when others
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that we know what class building looks
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like it's not like 911 it's like a
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collapsed building but the problem is
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your only even need the big pile of dust
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you could have made it like the rubble
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when they could have been a little
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different instead it was minding the
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imagery of exactly what it is maybe it
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feels it feels emotionally manipulative
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yeah the way they did that to the point
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about the no casualties thing i think
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particularly we also see and this is a
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that captain america is solidified his
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position as the actual leader of the
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team and that's very much a captain
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america thing right like he's the palate
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and he is the waffle good guy was going
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to save everybody and I think that's a
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big part of why they're so dead it you
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know determined to get all those people
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often say captain said this is what
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we're going to do we do this thing and
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Captain America is like is like a
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trouble when all the Super's I'm like a
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Western interior even going to actually
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like the original superman is like look
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you can't realistically speaking you
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can't show them saying everybody and
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realistically you can't save everybody
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but very frequently especially the old
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superhero movies that are not terrible
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they would show him saving a slopes
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subset of people in the same way that
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movie compresses down real-time into
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like this connects sequence they
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condense the idea of saving everybody
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down to saving one or two and you can
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quibble about a special have a whole
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city is like book you save three people
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on that elevator
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how many people died when you crash into
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the building even see all that racket is
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like that's why I feel like it so much
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of it is
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the message was directed at zack snyder
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it's silly but like that's the message
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of trying to send it construct this
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movie to say it's super important to try
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ham-fisted way but that's also remembers
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about only whatever doing with saving
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cats out of trees and in cash and women
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and doing stuff I I don't have felt it
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was a little bit of a disconnect with
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the first scene when the resulting the
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hydro bunker and like that I yeah well
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apparently they don't count they work
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for hydro even though probably a lot of
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them probably just recruited from that
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town is there blowing stuff up and
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throwing motorcycles at things and
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bunkers are exploding and Captain
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America shooting pulse beams at
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everybody and like a lot of people got
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hurt like yeah captain america's like we
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don't kill people it's like I saw you
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mean like you and people were never
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gonna walk again because you're a metal
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sealed at them when I guess they're bad
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good people but in it that's tricky
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because it's like I mean those guys were
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sealed until like a couple months the
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couple and you you wait in the same
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cafeteria thing is how you do you know
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that those opening scenes which you have
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a show shots in which you know the irony
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the iron force drop sponsored research
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engineer please move along we will be
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proud to and the citizens like you're
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idiots and play centers that there's
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graffiti with like pictures of graffiti
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essential guard of iron man with dollar
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signs mark over his head and part of it
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part of me was wondering i hope they go
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into something where again I'm the
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outsider here i have not seen most of
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the other movies or the TV shows but
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like isn't that interesting that there's
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it's sort of like when after world war
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two when both the Russians in the united
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states were trying to round up Nazi
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scientists 24 therefore rocket programs
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it's like why are we supposed to assume
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that Baron Strucker of a character that
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I don't know from this movie is not a
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better caretaker of this mystical object
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why we're assuming that the Avengers
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should be having it's because he's got a
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monocle on it you know Monica ok
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14 p park ourselves model so you don't
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remember the first thing we're there
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assaulting the base just felt it felt
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like very like GI joe like we want tons
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of explosions and laser blasts whatever
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but everybody is okay and like and even
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there's something about that Jeep it's
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like they're gonna sell that cheap
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that's gonna fit perfectly with the
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action was well it feels a lot like the
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first captain america movie at times to
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where it's like oh yeah we're storming
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the not only knocks Nazis are bad yeah
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exactly
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we don't care about the Nazis but no
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Andy to your point I actually when they
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when they go into that the Avengers go
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home and then we get a little bit in
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terms of scarlet witch and her brother
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with the oh yeah
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stark bomb came in and you know killed
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our parents and nearly killed us like
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that's the thing that I wish i'm sure
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they shot it i'm sure it exists in the
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latter part of the movie but like they
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already they have their pivotal switch
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when basically she discovers what
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Ultron's plenty to do and that's awesome
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but what I really would have liked to
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see is the dynamic between her basically
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facing the the man that she has blamed
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for killing her parents and kill you
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know destroying her way of life for for
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20 years and that would be interesting
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to me that that's where we get back to
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main complaint of focus that they can
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that's such an interesting thing to
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explore throughout the movie but we're
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going to mention it but we're moving on
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yeah well I think it's clear that he you
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know I appreciate the joss whedon put
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that in there right and and I think that
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because i think that that is a good
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element and i suspect that it was paid
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on and there's no runs no errors no
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reason you've got a little shorthand for
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a lot of things rather than a few more
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fewer things more with more data
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everybody's arc has one of these things
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attached to it Tony Stark's are because
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attached to his passes an arms dealer
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and Thor's r is as much as it is
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attached to his life together creating a
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ruler and everything and to go and
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pooling why don't have enough read and
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you don't move into those lines means
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you have that one line from Ultron about
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Captain America where it's like the guy
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who always needs a war to fight and like
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to tony's point about identity that was
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his arcane yeah they're like what we
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already saw that in the first like the
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winter soldier is basically the better
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version of that flushed out it's like I
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just remind you where we were
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we're so this guy's very complacent they
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could do an entire movie with a kind of
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sort of did I didn't see three but they
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wanted to talking about Tony Stark his
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guilt is an arms dealer and the
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repercussions of like but it's just it's
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too much to fit in this movie and
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speaking of the GI Joe assault and in
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the opening set piece that's it wrapped
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around back to the how I felt like the
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action scenes were in this one I'm of
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two minds and one I totally agree that
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there they did not do a great job of
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keeping track of everything it's
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difficult to whatever but what I really
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like with the scenes believe in our they
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went all watchman and tried to do a
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comic book panel like every once in a
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while they try to accomplish by stop the
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style is where everybody syncs up and
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it's a slow motion or everybody's in a
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moment and every time I did it I was
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like you know what comes up like I mean
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watchman may have to overcome over
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whenever music swells in your life
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superheroes or superhero team of
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superheroes doing things together I
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don't think they overdid it i think was
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five but the rest of the scenes around
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that I felt like that better than
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Avengers 1 in terms of keeping track of
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where things were for the most part a
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couple of fumbles but like so many
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moving parts like it so much easier to
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do fight scenes captain america 2
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because one guy one bad guy
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cool track even in Avengers where the
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only fight scene that involves all of
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them is the last one right like so
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everything leading up to that point is
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like smaller groups of people like Thor
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and Captain America and Iron Man
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fighting in one scene and you're like
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yeah I was a couple small things seem
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like they tried working as a team that
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combine their powers can do interesting
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things together they did all the things
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that we have to do for for I just don't
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know if a team of super superhero movies
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can work or maybe I don't know if a team
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of superhero movies can be better than
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adventures 2 and singers to was bad but
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I feel like there's a ceiling on ya know
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that that's why we said this for the
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last movie to that I feel like almost
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the praise is given the constraints they
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did a pretty good job at the constraints
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are brutal because it's just it's too
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much stuff too much has to be serviced
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you gotta move the future movies along
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you've got a service the past movies you
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got to give everybody their moment and
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you have to blow things up & what slime
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in this lady doesn't rely he flesh out
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here a hundred and twenty-five percent
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already and you haven't even started uh
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I think that's only true i had i didn't
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like the first out of the first action
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sequence was fine i think the problem is
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they were like ECG right off the bat
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they not great
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the purpose of that scene is to set them
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i mean literally and there are a few
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other things you introduce the
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Scarlet Witch and stuff and and
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Quicksilver it and hydro blah blah blah
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from previous entries they're working as
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a team and they're really good at and
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and your you but here's the thing
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it's it's long it's hard fought that
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it's complicated and and yes we get to
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see the Avengers in business again but
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the point is really to make the
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victorious so that they can go and
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celebrate and have the rug pulled out
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from under them by Ultron that's the
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point of that scene as you have them do
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that first scene so that everybody's
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feeling good and then they get brought
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down to earth and the problem is the
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scene goes on too long for that was like
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I said I wanted movie yeah i wanted i
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wanted like a like a super shiny almost
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like easy Avengers victory where they
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roll in and they're like we're so
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awesome so that they're even hikers
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clink gets injured and I gotta take it
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I almost wanted them to just like
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totally dominate and have structure and
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and the and the two other other you know
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the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver like
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like a runaway then uh and be just
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destroyed by the Avengers like they just
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dominated that would have actually I
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think been better for the movie because
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it would be shorter and it would have
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made them up even higher in their
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estimation of themselves and they would
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have further to fall and instead they
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felt like they had to do another like
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almost like a climax to a different
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movie to start this movie and a movie
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doesn't really start until Ultron
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appears so it was like a wasted 20
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minutes to and the reason that seems so
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long as we go back to what they were
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doing is the head to reintroduce every
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damn character what their hours are what
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their relationships are to each other
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like half of that scene was like
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remember this person and remember
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however their relationship with this
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person was in this person this is their
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power and you know you say it's two
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constraints the movie against Jason is
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pointing out like packing the
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seven-person team into a movie is really
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hard when you can't count on the fact
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that ok you know all these guys from the
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last one but i really did that like
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imagine so this movie had so many moving
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parts and they lean so heavily on the
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fact that you know these people are just
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reminding you usein Avengers one right
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guys like they didn't have to spend the
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time to remind you to tell you whose
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characters are there's no origin stories
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for anybody it's like just just sort of
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previously on Avengers that previously
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on Avengers takes 20 minutes now
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yeah you know and previously on Avengers
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and agents of shield and Captain America
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like just reminding you how all these
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bees like and if you caught up on agents
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of shield they even have a times with
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that it's like manly started a protocol
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unite it actually that's that's one
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thing side note for people who are
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watching agents of shield that is
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something where I'm kind of like at the
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end of this movie what what what does
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this leave for the television show
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Avengers Academy I don't know but yeah I
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henchmen being like but they're the
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Avengers boss what do you want to do and
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never surrender I'm going to surrender
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yeah I'll surrender you know that they
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put it where I keep thinking about times
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there but they're just too many ideas
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crammed in there and a lot of complaints
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that I'm making a couple other people
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see me making is that we don't we don't
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need this many fight scenes we don't
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need these many details and but the
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thing is these are choices that the
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filmmaker chose to make maybe with
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pressures from outside about here the
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commercial things we have to do to make
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this work with a larger universe but it
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really is i if you I think you can make
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a really good superhero team movie work
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but you have to decide that you've got
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seven moving pieces on the field that
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means that if we get with we have 100
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units of the audience's attention at the
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start of the movie we have to spend
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those why so we're gonna give we're not
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going to have aliens are trying to take
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over the entire world we're gonna say
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there is actually a subtle plot at hand
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that we have to figure out that's not
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going to be terribly complicated for us
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to figure out but it's a big planet and
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we can figure out which three people are
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actually involved in this and that gives
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you the ability to have two people off
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on 11 mission doing one thing three
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people often another mission one person
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thing behind to take care of other
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things it really is just seems like
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they're overloading the seven
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yeah I'm surprised we haven't talked
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more about Ultron because I feel like he
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gets kind of crowded out and it's like
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his name's in a little bit in the
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settlement I was gonna guess you can say
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since I was talking about the arson
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Iran's kind of anticipating being really
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excited about Ultron but and you know
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there are some parts of him that are
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amusing but he does kind of feel like
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it's kind of crowded out and I felt like
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there are a lot of times where I did not
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really understand why he was doing what
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he was doing his bow he was doing it I
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didn't I even when they then use the you
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the gym to help with vision I was then
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confused where Ultron came from
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um because I thought enable the center
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he has a hand wavy origin anyway yeah
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it's not this device inside is a
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malevolent robot guy was right as well
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yeah I mean I got that he is an evil
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robot guy he wants everyone dead right
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Robin and I think but not we're gonna
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have this really nice but you know what
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i like about the voice acting on him was
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exciting
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I thought he was gonna be this
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charismatic villain that was gonna be
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really interesting but really he's just
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an evil robot at with many other evil
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robot standing behind him for when he
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gets knocked his plan was good I liked
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this point this plan this wedding was
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awesome as winners good right here state
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to a meteor unix is obvious option they
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handle that by saying he wants the nukes
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that was his plan he couldn't get to it
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right second plan pretty good plan if
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you want to worry about humans in the
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grand scheme of things it's better than
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like you know everyone's faucets are
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going to shoot fire my frakking United
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would not watch it a very politically
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Avengers 3 that's about the dangers of
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fracking so they're building to that
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with Skye's power is going to be yeah
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oh god I know you know it actually
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bringing up all trans brings up my few
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potholes with this film which is
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basically like I don't understand like
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as much as I love tony stark in iron man
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i don't understand how iron man operates
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one cent Ultron comes online or Veronica
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or any of that like Ultron de I you know
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conceivably goes into the internet and
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then controls all things from their own
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element but that hasn't he's having the
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planet but then Tony's like Jarvis's
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m.i.a but Tony Stark can still you know
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use all of his things and maybe I mean
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we we find out later that Jarvis has
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basically been disseminated but kind of
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in stealth mode and still like tweaking
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things under the hood
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maybe Jarvis was subconsciously doing
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all of these things but still like
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there's that and then Tony Stark uploads
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a new a new AI and his new AI can't be
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corrupted apparently but you yet
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uploaded a new AI until we've got them
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like there's a there's some hand-waving
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going on there in terms of technology
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which is odd because i found the lake
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they do such a good job of acknowledging
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other potential plot holes where it's
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like the link and the nitrogen they're
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like let's bring up exactly why this
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wouldn't work at that the plot holes
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that they don't acknowledge or just feel
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kind of blatant
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refusing to me i think i think this is
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the least explicable fall for me of the
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movie where you have his name is in the
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title you're creating a brand new
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character brand new villain and he's
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gonna be motivating everything that
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happens and at the end of the movie all
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i could think of is that the treehouse
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of horror which there's the evil crusty
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go here we go there's a switch for good
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or evil be switched him to evil he has
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to have better motivation than i'm just
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an evil robot and I have to wipe out all
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of humanity
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why because I'm not even close he needs
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more motivation to my boys when I don't
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like motivation is that it's the
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misplace motivation of and they don't
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say it explicitly having and that's part
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of the problem is the misplaced
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motivation is the only way to get humans
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stop killing each other just kill all
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know that's like that'sthat's like going
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for the tripe of I'm of like this isn't
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this isn't his but this isn't about
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Marvel but uses the the truth about I'm
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a robot but i really want to be a real
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live human okay we've seen that a
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thousand times you have to add depth
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that you have to say okay but why does
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he think that this is the choice
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why is his motivation to solve this
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problem this way why do we not get a
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scene in which he tries to investigate
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ok so I'm here time here to basically
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get humans to be better
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boy that felt boy I can't talk to these
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people why look at these transcripts of
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these things like no I've suddenly
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instead decided that we have to kill
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it's almost like it's the shorthand of
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like what we've seen all those movies so
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we know that that would never so like
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this isn't it
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we're still working harder they're not
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it's not easy he does get crowded and
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james spader does a good job and the
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dialogue when he's on 44 Avengers movies
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like can we do something that adds depth
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and character or here's a quip well
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right now because i'm sure more than
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with shorter lips are the quips are good
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the clips are good and actually that's
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what I like Ultron is that Ultron's like
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you know he has any and the Duke lips
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are serving the purpose of saying he's
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way ahead of you right and I'll i enjoy
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i enjoy that icing up landing tastes
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like a lot of robots would be yeah
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isn't robotics plans realize you're not
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a straight and Jarvis has a personality
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and then all of a sudden you know
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Jarvis light is gone into the vision and
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all of this and the vision is like
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humanity is such a strange and you
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Johnny Chan Ultron robot or not gonna go
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with not on the haha yeah but like yeah
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it's on it's on character for an AI to
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make decisions really quickly and only
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have to explain them later and i Ken and
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he's right this is a total trope anyway
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I given any task to like save anything
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having to do with humans always goes
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through this thing make sure the file
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footage from the eighties of missiles
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going off and they go the only way to
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save the humans you are the problem of
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the plan you keep fighting each other
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fighting to get rid of you all the birds
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and the bees would just be all we were
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the monster all-around no other living
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thing on the planet would kill each
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other several all the Predators and
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other prey animals but nevermind it's
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fine you know like but anybody that is a
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truck but he but they don't show you any
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of that and I think it's precisely
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because we've seen so many other times
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student comes into being he's already
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made that this is well and he's already
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out what they do off-screen that I
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actually kind of like is that he says
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yeah I'm kind of past that now it's like
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I'm embracing the fact that i'm going to
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just take over and be evil and I'm gonna
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be I'm gonna be the new life for you my
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love interest ideas you know what he
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might it's true i thought it was a fun
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character but it doesn't necessarily
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make a lot of sense but it was a fun
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character enjoyed Spader I enjoyed the
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quips i enjoyed him being smarter and
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sorted out Tony starking Tony Stark I
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thought that was all really good so
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that's the thing that actually that that
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potentially excited me about Ultron is
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that they went they have this potential
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unexplored path where they hint at
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several times through the movie which is
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basically Ultron is more Tony Stark than
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either Tony Stark or Ultron would like
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to admit
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and it sends him into an absolute rage
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both first and jarvis and second he
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tears that blows that guy's arm off when
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he's like your intensity Tony yeah
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that's a Tony Stark har har
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there's claw that's clock Claus a bad
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guy in Marvel and he's gotta like a
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little ray gun owners arms
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totally as a result of a Menominee
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there's apparently a Marvel thing
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wherein all the facebook movie someone
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loses an arm as an homage to start worse
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like that is apparently kevin can fake
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you really like Star Wars but of course
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no arm but if but no call for any circus
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for acer eraser gets one soon frustrated
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though because again there are there are
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such hints of like this complex awesome
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character and Ultron and I would've
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loved a dichotomy of like Tony Stark you
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built a you built a robot to
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intentionally try and replace yourself
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and here is weak we get that comparison
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later in the movie right it's like both
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of them don't you know say they want
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peace and they have no idea how do you
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know whether pieces to make the world
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you know calm or destroy it and like
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that that would have been really
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interesting and their events in the
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movie yeah but it's not but it and I can
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be made this point earlier which is its
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think of a better story going on that
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have Ultron that's doing the exact same
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thing that Tony Stark is doing saying
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what I'm i'm going to reshape the planet
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don't have to ask anybody how to do it
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because I've got the plan and they don't
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have the plan
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put a fascinating movie that would have
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been awkward for formats like what a
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fascinating movie if they'd sort of
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picked up on the fact that the rest of
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the Avengers are like okay why did you
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not tell us you created this planetary
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threat oh come on to the next thing it's
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like again LOL others the last time i
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fast but again if they can't get
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distracted so that the movie gets
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distracted from every ideas so quickly
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that there's just no time to really
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steep and hey guys and as much as I like
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when it's like when Ultron was like
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having scenes focused around cameras
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like yes go back to the Avengers they're
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more interesting it's like he couldn't
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you couldn't give him the time that was
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due and as we talked about all the other
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characters his mouth is
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made of metal but his lips been if they
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do leave Matt explain it's made of
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liquid metal shielding so hard at those
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placing now are they saying they're
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segmented place that gives the effect of
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flexibility and then when you're
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distracting at magnuson argument really
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getting on with our four magnets
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powerfully think you're talking about
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Ultron like how awesome he could be
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house you're describing a good sci-fi
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movie there's no room in this movie
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accident like you don't like this just
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like you we want more out of the
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Avengers long as I can we just get rid
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of all this is a pretty sure he jumped
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straight to kill all humans though
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because they could have taken because
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it's called age of Ultron they could
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have taken 20-minute time to show him
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being friendly and helpful and then he
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starts killing people like you should
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not kill people and they actually I'm
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gonna kill more people but it's like
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there's no time to do that so let's just
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move on instead because he just kills
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people right away because we had all
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these we had enough new characters that
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they could have done a movie that was
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just about altron vision and the
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Maximoff twins and that would have been
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a good movie but it's like not we also
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have to have all the end just like if
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you see a pic i had no idea who vision
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was or when they introduced in like
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seriously you're gonna do is a major
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character this point in the my new he
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was going to appear I thought he was
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going to be like in the left leg and
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allows credits yeah something not like
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we're gonna show up midway through and
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he's gonna talk and do stuff and
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absolutely shows like he I mean he just
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kind of like other than introducing a
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new character that I assume we'll play
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and in the future movies he just
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participated in the team and kind of got
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Tony Stark out of destroying the world
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again because like i did actually
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starting to look at I ok i love the
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vision know when I look at this
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treatment division is a pretty cool idea
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but again there's that there's the
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almost climactic point of the movie
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where you know they've they've got the
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cradle and they bring the to cradle to
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tony stark and Tony Stark is getting
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ready to experiment on the brake cradle
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and the twins burst in with Captain
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America being like I you can't do that
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you're good just going to continue your
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cycle of destruction and they just like
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why anyway there's a deus ex machina
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because for peers will do know it's it's
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ridiculous because what what makes you
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think that is that is the message
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oh I created Jarvis all along and jar
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you know Jarvis developed the true AI
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all along and
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didn't need the creepy mind gem and it's
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all it's all handy-dandy or is it like
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20 * stop bullying and things that you
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don't want to know like sorry now we're
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gonna do i have to add the broadcast
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sorry doesn't mean i thought there was
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gonna be when they did introduce him
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like he was going to be the secret huge
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weapon and do something special and then
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he kind of is just another another point
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of view that we have to include in our
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DNA fight scene we're cutting from
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character to character you in turn
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becomes the following ok he of the
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Avengers huh uh we're going to talk more
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about the vision minute but I'm gonna
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take a break for a second to say we are
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software to install listen it always in
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the cloud the cloud can be good or it
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can be filled with killer robots in this
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case man was not meant to tamper with
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the inbox there is no hardware or
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software to install and maintain it
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receive your mail stores it passes it on
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to you clean all of the spam is sent to
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altron it's easy to setup reliable trust
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by the largest universities and
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corporations as a desktop user you'll
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find male rats interface simple and
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intuitive it's very easy to check and
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see what mail got filtered one male
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didn't get something like Ultron's
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interface
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Alton friends of his and Tony Stark's
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interface quite frankly extremely
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complicated
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you're an email administrator an IT
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professional they built all of their
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tools with you in mind they even have an
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API for easy account management it
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supports features such as ldap Active
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damage caused by song from the UH the
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only way to save my mailbox is to
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destroy it so when I when I started
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actually true reading The Avengers in
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the eighties the cool the leaders of the
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team worth vision and the Scarlet Witch
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and so to me that was out that was a
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really fun thing that these are my
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adventures in a way that the the
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eighties Avengers were led by vision and
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was fun but it's sort of like Jarvis is
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now got a guy with a body and and has
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thing and a cape healing is like look I
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wanted to be organized like wanted to be
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a line about the cape because I don't
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look at the more you or are either case
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i wanted to be like nice Cape I'd I
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souls always liked the scene where you
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can pick up the hammer i decided it was
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got a cape coral can pick up a hammer
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everybody can pick up their looks and
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it's funny because as he like he goes he
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flies out he looks at the city he looks
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at his reflection and you have that
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initial sort of oh I'm figuring myself
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he looks authorities like oh well throws
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a protector he has a cape i guess i
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should have a cape now also mines dead
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my gym I feel like if you can if you can
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wield the power of an infinity stone you
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can probably pick up and you were
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indicate yeah well Anna Anna here like
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this before so I i agree it's like like
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with this Batman movies and like
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spider-man three or so many characters
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here and you're like you're adding
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another character but what I like about
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the vision thing oh well is is that a
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the vision we're set up that Ultron is
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going to have his elevation to godhood
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Ultron is going to now become
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all-powerful and he's going to get his
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new library me rhenium synthetic body
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whatever we gotta stop him and I like
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the fact that in the end what happens is
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yes there's the let's be mad scientist
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moment but in the end it gets turned
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against him and you end up creating an a
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synthetic life-form who is the new
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evolution of humanity and and robots
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that is better than Ultron but it's not
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Ultron I think that's kind of a fine
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little bit they have the same power
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balancing from they always happens in
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families who is more powerful all of our
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already you know the whole this guy's
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using completely made of vibranium and
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he should be able to take care about
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going now but Krishna final fight
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sequence that they just they just level
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everything and they're just like yeah
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you can rebalance everything everyone
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punch each other in the face a superhero
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like I mean it's scarlett johansson has
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essentially no powers are always
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punching people in the face with the
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same ferocity the guy whose entire body
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is made of fur brains gonna get any
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German his skull and it's like doesn't
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make any sense like you have to do that
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because they're all the action movie
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yeah it pulls away from that's why in
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the single character movies you can have
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these character power moments that are
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more profound because you're showing a
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single characters power arc and it's
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okay for them to be the most powerful us
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on movies you don't want to do it I was
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kind of uncomfortable time they're
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fighting until I don't like it when
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Captain America's during shielded people
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inside Tony Stark lab I don't like it
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when our man is fighting the Hulk
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because that's just--that's comic
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book-like it's like but wait a second
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who would win and sometimes it's like
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it's you know the answer but they can't
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have you win but why they like their
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they need to as the set in the movie
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several times need to use their words
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like when they disagree with each other
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you don't immediately fling your shield
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somebody fire bullets through the floor
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happen outside
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I really did like I really did like the
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Hulkbuster thing we go against my better
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judgment is finally putting i really
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enjoyed on top of them and he's on top
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of the tree does exactly what you guys
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just slowing down
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yeah it was just me and you can't stop
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my heart what good is it you stop them
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first-time wait a minute gives you time
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to put the whole restaurant and you get
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the little hydraulic punchy thing that
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punches him alot which was really funny
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i probably won't go to sleep go to sleep
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Yeah Yeah come on can we have a word at
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least about some of the quickie writing
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because i know we made fun of all the
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clips but your screen with Mickey every
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seat joss whedon is really good at and
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that's what makes this movie fun i think
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the writing it's funny it's it's
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legitimately funny especially when as
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the strength of this movie this movie
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franchise always been the characters who
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are ridiculously super powerful
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characters are always under cutting
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themselves like yeah the scene with a
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hammer we're hanging out the beginning
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they're all trying to pick up the hammer
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like it's what do the Avengers do when
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they're not Avengers their Park I
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running you know buildings for people
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wouldn't rush about that but I i think
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that's the the thing the great thing
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about this movie is when we see those
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characters as people rather than
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superheroes and just arguing about a lot
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of a kind of stupid things that we argue
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about like you put the hammer in an
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elevator that count yeah i think i think
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it's i think it's really good
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character thing for Tony Stark to keep
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doing that because he's just it's and he
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will undercut himself and it's a really
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serious situation which people are
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terrified for their lives they're
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convinced there's a rampaging engine of
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destruction thats breathes was dropped
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from nowhere but it's okay for Tony
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Stark to be flipping inside the armor
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it's weirder when you have Captain
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America or Natasha or others
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it's like more of a dry sense of humor
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but trying to keep trying to fill a
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moment with here's here's a here's a
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line that just occurred to me here the
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riders from let's just not that scary
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moment I I could not disagree more i
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think the case they are playing not only
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is it funny and it makes it humanizes
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them and it gives you the sense that
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they are a team and they are if they are
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interacting and that they've been on
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adventures that we haven't seen and so
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when Captain America's language please
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and it becomes a running bit it's funny
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because he's from the old times and
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maybe he's like Uncle grandpa who's like
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these kids today and I i think it's
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earned and I think it's funny and I
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think the movie I and this is why I'm
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client like a movie like this and not
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like some of those DC movies that
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they've made because they are so serious
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and I want to punch them because they're
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staking little curious about your
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haircut but you're kind of hitting on
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what I've always thought was my
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difference between the red where react
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with DC movie in a Marvel movie I can't
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think of any time where I legitimately
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laughs during a DC movie I can't think
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of a time where I legitimately felt an
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emotional connection to anything
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happening in a Marvel movie and I don't
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know why I'm sorry see a lot of Mount
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Pleasant emotion I i yes I have seen 1 2
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3 i've seen for Marvel movies
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ok maybe not all of them but I've seen
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what I've seen I feel very emotional and
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thor 2 because it was I was filled with
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rage I like a bad liar i also have to
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say kudos who they are you know what was
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paraded PG pg-13 or something so they
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get the fleeting after which is the
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first line and Maria sorry detective
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thumbs up on that one that I remember
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the tall that language that's happening
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during the I don't even think I don't
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think to throw away since I think it's
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important to Center us in this action
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but this is the one where there are very
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few consequences were going to be
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attacking this fortress with people who
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have converted with machine guns of God
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for all things early dreams your level
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yeah it's not like when that it's it's
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it would be it would be very very weird
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if while we know that there is a plane
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that's headed
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towards tower two of the World Trade
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Center to say well you know I like I'm
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sorry I'm that's the first flight I've
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always when I wish that we got hope you
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don't be late for it's like you're an
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y-you their lives at stake why are you
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talking about a comic book movie though
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that's what I feel like it's like that
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that's that's what we use a little we
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used the phrase comic book movie and a
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derogatory i'm not using just the whole
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time saying that it's outside outside of
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this table when people say comic book
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movie they don't see also there's no
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depth there's no involvement this just a
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comic book movie i'm talking about
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something that's larger than life and
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delightful where it should be you know
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there should be snakes there should be
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consequences but at the same time like
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we want all of the Avengers to get out i
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should already want to have fun we want
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it we want to be entertained and feel
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the highs and the lows Star Wars is very
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quickly and it's why we love it because
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it's just as quickly as it is emotional
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and it if all the characters were super
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serious and let's only say the things
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that are you know boy like was never
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tell me the odds like yeah we're gonna
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say that i would say the star wars as
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much better made than avengers movie I
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won't disagree with that but I'm gonna
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save all the adjectives I would apply to
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the Man of Steel fun it's not anywhere
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near them again it wasn't it was but
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that but there are there were moments
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that I can i I don't I don't think that
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man of steel was a great movie out loud
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I thought was going from that one way to
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start again
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god I thought it was better than the
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first Avengers movie but the problem
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we hold these truths to be so i thought
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this place was already over but again I
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will I will I will reiterate my reaction
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is incontrovertible i was bored to hell
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so if there's through the first of many
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places dandy I was not bored as hell no
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justice statements according to steal
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Murray that's all I'm saying
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yeah I I think you've got to have that
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one of the things that humanizes these
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characters is that they have
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relationships and they do to do some
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clips and if they took it all that
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seriously it would be like listen boring
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and grim and terrible like man of steel
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which was a piece of junk and I let me
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let me look let me defend any four
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seconds I think I know what he's getting
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at with the Man of Steel thing I i also
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like minutes daily mostly because of how
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a character I Superman not so much like
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in the movie making the early parts of
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Man of Steel like it just had one
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character and i think was a man of steel
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was better moviemaking then the first
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happens man of steel was better very
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good better moviemaking like I don't
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just ignore the plot ignore the fact
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that Superman just like go for like you
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know how it how was it shot how is the
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dialogue is different kind of movie you
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know me like I was more stylized I i
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read today I thought it was more
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interesting visually I thought I like to
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pay something that you know that's never
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do some very interesting visual rails at
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the end but the equipping this thing
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with Joss Whedon right like you go to
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war with Joss Whedon your have this is
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what you got back what can just we
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didn't do well if that you get just
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waiting here we don't land equips like
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why the hell do you even get why you
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like her right and so I cancer community
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without dental in this mode walking in
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this movie I feel like it's not as good
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quips we're good my favorite joke the
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entire movie is the visual jet a gag
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when Captain America and Iron Man
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arguing and they're chopping wood
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encountering her just tears log in half
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because he's frustrated enemies captain
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america and like that's my favorite kind
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of Clips like you don't have to hit on
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the head but like I don't know how well
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integrate those clips are with the rest
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of the movie i get the feeling like you
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know like you're going from going for
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seeing action and clip and then seeing
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action then equip like but look at the
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good quips we're good like they were
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joss whedon right i can quickly qualify
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it wasn't I'm not objecting to the use
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of quips I'm saying that there so many
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times where I heard a quickie thing it
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didn't feel like a character having a
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genuine dialogue it felt like a
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screenwriter saying oh I joke just
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occurred to me i'm going to type in
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right here
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I i get that i don't i don't agree I
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felt I felt like these time we know
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these characters and anger
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Mandy I have to say I've seen all of
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these movies and I feel like I know
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these characters and these were coming
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from places the reason the quips were
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enjoyable to me is that I felt like they
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were from the places i know these people
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and that's exactly what they should say
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given their relationships and given
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their history and
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their history and
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I was pretty amazed because i was on the
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lookout for the quips that are there
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just to add some levity while I'm
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punching somebody's face off that don't
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fly and and I was impressed at the care
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that went into the quips where I felt
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like these characters actually the the
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quicker the right clips for the
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situation and so it so if they totally
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work and I was on the lookout for I was
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on quip watch in fact and i didn't i
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didn't see that much to that all these
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characters and really unique LOL
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characters and all joss whedon things
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that he's ever done
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use humor and quips and dark humor and
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sarcasm as their way of dealing with
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heated situations that are bit like that
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is his thing everything and he basically
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makes the same movie over and I think
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like his card if Bobby people with the
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right age to be that sarcastic and have
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those scripts but he doesn't matter what
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movie you give anybody given like you
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know old Indians in and like 700 he'll
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do the same damn thing that's what he
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knows how to do viagra like but the
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Avengers like with with these clips it
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in story it makes sense that they would
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be doing these things because that is
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the way they deal with with the
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difficulties of the situation they also
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superhero character I don't know but
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think that their different perspectives
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when you have someone who is not someone
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who was seen this isn't there was not
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committed to the Marvel Cinematic
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a continuation of this enjoyable
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investment that I've been making in
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these movies i've been really really
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liking this it's takes us back to the
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fundamental issue with this entire thing
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which is it's not quite a movie as much
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as is honest and installment of this and
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movie series goes wrong with that
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because the clear curly we the the news
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this number the number two opening
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weekend in movie history so it's not as
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though this he's that this movie is not
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finding an audience of people who really
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really enjoyed this movie you know that
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you know they buy the tickets before
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they see the movie i think it's not
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that's Jay
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but I see the Avengers movies as
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Capstone's rather than movies in them
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into themselves like if you look at
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Marvel sort of bills in their faces as
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like a good meal you've got like you've
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got the the various entrees that are the
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single person movies and the Avengers
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movies are the desert RV like
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wholehearted you know what we know these
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characters we know this environment we
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love this environment we have presumably
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bought into it because we have seen all
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the other movies this is kind of a
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two-and-a-half-hour way of being like
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hey wouldn't it be cool if all of our
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favorite superheroes that we've known
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and loved just kind of get together and
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hang out and Jason's touching his nose
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Mike was right anyway keep going yeah
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yeah rub it in
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no I I honestly I for me and avengers
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movie does not have to be pinnacles of
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greatness it has to be fun
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it has to have characters that I know
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and love and it has to be plausible and
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they're definitely like they're
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definitely plot holes in this and I'm
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not gonna stare too closely at them
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because honestly I'd like this
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this was my dessert this was my happy
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time and then we'll see what phase 3 has
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in store for sure it's desert and not
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like the feeling when you're in bed
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after oh I shouldn't be no no it's not
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even that much for the Jews out there
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it's like the offi combing your special
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with the taste linger in your mouth
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yeah and and also my ambition is that i
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would like to have superhero movies that
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are more ambitious that try to be more
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like a conventional movie but that's
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only one way to make that movie it's
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possible to have I was thinking about
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this on the way into the move into the
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theater that maybe one of the reasons
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why I'm not responding to some of these
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Marvel movies is that i am expecting it
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to be like a sit-down dinner when this
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is more like a buffet experience where
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there's going to be elements that your
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that are good elements that you like
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less you're not supposed to see it as a
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really engineered meal so much as a
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positive 2 and a half hour long
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experience that could be I mean I i do
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think that with something like guardians
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of the galaxy we see Marvel trying
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something that is a different kind of
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approach 22 again what commerce makes a
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you know blockbuster tentpole kind of
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movie that that's just how it is
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but within that do some things that are
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different this is this is I agree with
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surrounding part of it is this is the
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capstone this is quite frankly the the
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the issues of a comic where all of the
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characters get together and interact
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those are never the best stories either
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it's fun to watch them interact but the
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story is kind of beside the point and
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it's not and this is like that this is
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it's fun to see them interact in
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something and but it only really works i
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think if they've earned it with you
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having known these characters more like
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I feel like you really need to have seen
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winter soldier and internalized it and
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understood it and taking it into your
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soul for you to watch this movie because
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it really doesn't make a lot of sense
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without knowing where the characters are
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after winter soldier especially if this
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balance between like ensemble cast you
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want to have dramatic moments you want
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them to be quickly you want to have good
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action scenes that's actually fairly
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difficult formula too often trying to
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think of other movies that have done a
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well-made hot Empire Strikes Back is
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comes the obvious example but it's
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paired down there's action scenes this
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personal drama there's quips and they
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balance in the right and guardians of
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the galaxy is like let's go away towards
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the humor side and but even that is
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difficult balance because then we were
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talking about that movie it's like all
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the more seriously and so I can really
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take this bag is seriously in this one I
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could i get some so difficult like where
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do you find the line and that way it's
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almost like not that it's easier but
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like Batman Begins is more like a solid
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yeah you know serious like movie and
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like it has its humor value had to
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strike him or whatever but like it they
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figured out a balance that you look
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Batman Begins and it works all the way
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through its just I the reason think
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we're trying to do the balance where
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you're somewhere in the middle like I
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mean I guess maybe diehards example it's
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very small cast like can you balance
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drama investment in action scenes with
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it's very super hard and service 7
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characters and all that is hurting you
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know just keep studying in Parliament
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before we go I i do want to mention day
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do people have any thoughts about um
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Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch because
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they were they were in this movie too
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and we and you know we had to we had to
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find a way to introduce them and and
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have them do some stuff
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Carla which was like her character I
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feel like got got a little bit screwed
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like I mean they they tried to give her
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an art but very very frequently about
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the one that really bothered me the most
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sheet that has the conversation with the
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with Hawkeye and become you know she's
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gonna come out as she comes out she's
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made her decision she's going to be an
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Avenger she's going to be the Scarlet
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Witch she does her badass thing to slow
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motion then then Hawkeye looked over her
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and gives her that
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next scene they have the expressions for
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actresses face is like looking to
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hawkeye for approval and she's a little
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dopey little dog again maybe next time
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you'll see more than two times watching
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like she doesn't know
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did I do good in my right side while
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she's here she's scared out of her mind
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damaged from being experimented on and
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being that's totally appropriate though
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that's totally appropriate for so long
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if you drop me into a combat situation
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that I've never been in i will probably
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invite see that the entire world is
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going completely the hell i know that
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partly responsible for because I helped
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out the early stages of it I might need
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a bit of a pet pop pep talk to and I
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think that they trick with this with
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developing those characters also we got
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them as a unit right and it's like e to
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a certain extent you have to split time
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and no one they're not gonna you can't
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just be like oh they have the exact same
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story they're probably rescue their
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parents were killed like yes we do have
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some story and they each sort of like
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China and on it but it's really hard to
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get full extent of both of them and so I
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think I think Scarlet Witch actually
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gets a better treatment than Quicksilver
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who is like yeah I get to make it is
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about a gruff and speaking Russian
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accent tonight pretty much it my
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complaint about scholar which wasn't
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that she was scared the buildings after
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that after she comes out she supposed to
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have made her decision and like because
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self-actualize and become the power to
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decide what she's gonna do but
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immediately after that she's back like I
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I don't like real to me them that felt
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very much like so did I do good boss
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well no i honestly didn't look like she
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was can I you know am i doing well it
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what if to me that like I noticed that
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expression and it very very much
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registered my brain but it looked as
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like I'm going to do this and I'm going
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to be an Avenger but that doesn't mean
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that I'm not terrified out of my mind
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because I still have major PTSD from 110
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a shell fell down next to me and almost
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you know yeah I don't know screaming
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with your story but I maybe I'm going on
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Lex may not in like the idea being happy
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is the idea
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the idea that i like but these people
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have this kind of power especially like
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the telekinesis in mind control that
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it's like they don't know how far it
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goes and it usually goes really really
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really far in a scary way and the people
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with this power and inevitably seems
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like they become consumed by it because
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it's kind of that type of power that's
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gonna make you destroy the entire world
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and kill everybody
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well that's kind of what happens to
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scarlet witch's and I see her traveling
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along an argument is movie she's like I
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expected her to travel farther along in
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our basement expected her to sort of
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coming to her powers and realize that
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like you know that she's much more
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powerful than she thinks when she when
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she puts her mind to it right in the
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correct way and that is slowly the power
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sunroof income that's a dozen to learn
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about that later later but again I I
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there was also a long stable period when
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you know vision and the Scarlet Witch
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led the Avengers and it was awesome and
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paris peace in our time and there was
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peace in our time and yeah wasn't that
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the period which the vision went nuts
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and formed the west coast avengers a
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diversionary tactic then took over every
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single container labeled to try to unite
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was later it was much less employees
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have to be about to be licensed you have
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any nuts to start a west coast version
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gonna ask for the great anything that
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puts tiger and a monthly series i'm
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a-free I prove oh yeah and I worth a
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five cents run and then this house event
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well it's also like x-men and that they
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were also mutants but you can't call the
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mutants in this movie because that's a
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totally diff locks his lawyers would
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like it went to Jason produce oh yeah
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archives very little overlap with
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for Asgard or were curious hear stories
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quips or going to Thor have the hammer
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this movie so much but he doesn't have
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season finale free agents of shield yes
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tops off in the barn ya just gotta go
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chemicals we do a brief appreciative for
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a lot of the I thought the cameos you
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apartment oh wait she could afford her
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but she's better Skarsgard comes back I
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mean like we pretty much dragon-like
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secondary characters from all the
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understand they have created a rich
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universe I just feel like it and i told
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where there is wonders with all these
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actors about it can afford action
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set-pieces like I wonder if that's gonna
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concepts at some point you have to
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wonder if it would be better it would be
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better off to spend money for these
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actors to do an eight-episode netflix
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really don't know that's why tries to be
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able to look at daredevil and saying
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movies just same effects like that's the
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thing ya know you're only going to be
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doing a movie why can't you have all
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these people in television show just
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like you know eventually you're going to
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say we can't make any more Avengers
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movies they're ridiculous but if as long
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as people are still breaking box-office
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records to go see them they're not going
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to put them on netflix anytime soon yeah
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i mean i think more likely we might get
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we might sooner get a return to flash
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Gordon's cereals then we would then
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would actual but that then actually
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of movies get made because not because
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they offered an actor a lot of money but
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give you five or six million dollars for
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one month so one month of your time and
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if we did this if you did this and
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netflix budget where you do not have the
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option of having 90 minutes of just
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action action action where could to save
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money in a way you have to have people
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hashing out a plot that might be
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something that would intrigue me more
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than Avengers 3
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the stuff that we see on TV these days
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also been like years towards the greedy
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understand how guys want to see the HP
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understand she's not ready right well
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that's about it that's the closest that
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we've got I think you look at something
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like daredevil right and it's like
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character voice is pretty dark it's
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funny at points but it's pretty daughter
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couldn't afford a lot of Lights right
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well yeah you know it's New York Hell's
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think i think you're right i would love
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to see an adventure series like this
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that you could sort of spin out into an
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entire long series and I think that that
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for better or worse this genre has been
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relegated to the blockbuster we rather
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than being something we do on the team
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he perhaps with the exception of the
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flash which i think is trying to do
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something very someone else we did a
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very good job telling superhero stories
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in a TV format it was called buffy the
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vampire slayer yeah yeah well that was
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how many years ago now what
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when one of the six identical la
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identical in sequence trailers we saw
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before this what was the ant-man movie
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and I'm kind it would really pleased me
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a lot if it really did turn out to be
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action-oriented and some drama but
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mostly ok for god sakes he's called
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ant-man and he's about this tall
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let's let's let's let's assume we're not
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talking about saving the entire world
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but solving a problem an ex-con has to
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have the proportional strength of human
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and size body here we are about out of
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time so I'm gonna I'm gonna ask anybody
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if they've got last thoughts before we
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sign off serenity of last pot I'm really
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excited to see Scarlet Witch going
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forward because I thought that you know
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quibbles aside her powers are very
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interesting we haven't seen a lot of
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inhuman you know advanced type powers in
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this universe as of yet we've seen you
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know God's we've seen people who have
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experimental strength or you know been
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experimenting on but we we really
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haven't seen people who were born with
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crazy powers
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yeah i think it's unclear though if she
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is actually just experimenting on like
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like Captain America depending depending
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on how I mean and also I think we have
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to see the rest of this season of shield
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but what shield seems to be hinting at
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is that Hydra was basically collecting
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in humans
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yeah be there and they are calling
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humans yet surprise but like collecting
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enhanced people and experimenting on
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them and that the twins were the only
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people who survived set experiments
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which isn't mentioned the movie yes
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exactly so I'm I'm really interested to
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see the new the next generation of
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Avengers I'm really interested to see
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what phase 3 has in store
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I really like the fact that the vit like
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as much as I'm kind of bummed that the
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vision kind of had really short shrift
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because there's no real time to explain
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it i like that he is a bridge between
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the normal and the super hyper
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fantastical and I think he's a better
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bridge in a wave and Thoris because he
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connects to the Galactic a lot better
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with the mind stone or the mind effort
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are we calling a gem some gems
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yeah with the mind gem
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in a way that like Thorin no Asgard is
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alien and sort of connected but still
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feels very silly whereas vision feel
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silly but also you know we've got a
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we've got a route because hey he was
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Jarvis once we love Jarvis but also he's
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carrying around crazy alien technology
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so maybe division will show up in
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guardians of the galaxy two who knows
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but i but I feel like it i don't know
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it's an it's i really like where things
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are going Marvel has yet to really let
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me down with the movie i look forward to
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seeing the next round
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don't four defendants doing anything i
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feel like i'm anna says he isn't being
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that lives only in credit side after I
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just feel like he has been lurking
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around the corner for like this was a
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large percentage of my life
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yes waiting in this one we saw but I
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grew up next and credit another club and
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I great boot socks socks first and it's
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a very slow race dirty messy again
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knowing nothing about the comics you
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look so dorky to me he looks like he
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looks like a cartoon villain drawn like
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a scooby-doo I said the car is literally
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a courtyard village on our tuna sammie
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really i gave him the big chin and like
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it I don't know he does not interest me
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as the villain at all
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thus far I guess I was he has incredible
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isn't anything but he don't know he was
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27 he was obviously that decision is
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coming to our galleries yeah
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elder people mention he needs to start
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doing stuff unless delegating slashed
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talking to yes i agree i agree i again i
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like this movie a lot more than I like
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the first one and I i hope this is a
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continued upward trend although it's
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kind of interesting to think of I don't
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know whose contracts are expiring soon
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as I know they lock them into very
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long-term ya drunks but they seem to
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have renegotiated many of them we
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thought we were not seeing him anymore
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baby i i wonder what happens when if
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it's a good thing they don't have a turn
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rate are their actors or if it's a bad
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the end of this movie suggest ok we have
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new avengers now and that Tony Stark may
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not be around so much and all that I
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think that's good i think that's a good
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thing go
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well Tony Stark has been done I mean
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iron man 3 shows a pretty clear are two
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that I think it's great that he's here
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and I think he's not going anywhere we
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didn't kill him off where there's no
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finality today in the next Captain
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America right and so I think what we'll
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end up seeing is like we'll have a new
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avengers team probably in
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infinity War part 1 and you'll have a
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lot of like other people that we haven't
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necessarily seen yet perhaps now and
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then you won't be like all man
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Stannis got bad news we better bring all
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those other guys and we might have a
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situation whereby ventures forth like oh
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they Ted McGinley is now playing like
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another superhero ok it's done but I i
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agree that i really liked seeing the new
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sort of Avengers come in i really i
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thought that i really enjoyed this movie
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for the most part I you know there are
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parts that I think felt a little like a
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little more the future ops and downs
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more level to it and that didn't always
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like get me like oh yeah this is great i
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wasn't always like this most engaged
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some of the fight scenes but i love the
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character interactions and that is what
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I come for end it yeah for me that
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totally delivered in that way and as
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long as they can continue to sort of
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produce great movies where these
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characters are interesting and interact
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with each other and are fun and that is
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the key word for me always come back to
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its fun I've seen a lot of superhero
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movies that are not fun
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I don't need to see any more of those so
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thumbs up looking forward to future
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Marvel endeavors
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I fear for any future movies of this
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type not made with talent that involved
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this like soon as they take away joss
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whedon I don't know what his deal is in
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his contract but was already gone Yeah
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Yeah right into your heel though ended
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like May first can put like this is a
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high degree of difficulty and it's going
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better than than the multi ones and a
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multi one not involving joss whedon not
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love not like just it could just be
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dreadful so I really am feeling the next
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were saying i will point out that the
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exactly not for on one will not infamous
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I don't know what I'm looking for but
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they directed a bunch of arrested
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development episodes and they they've
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been around in terms of anything on your
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community or human challenges
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yeah that they're um I i think there is
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a distinct possibility that in the
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future we will look back at the two
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first two Avengers movies and say turns
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out joss whedon about as good as anybody
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could expect right great and here is so
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much higher leap on so much the quips
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but just because he did
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user experience to like figure out how
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you get these just basically putting
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tight in terms there was like single
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points and making clear like he did as
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well as you can do it like it just just
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putting the puzzle pieces together just
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storyboarding addressing what is going
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to happen and what is going to lead to
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what you want to what even that is
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really hard to do and I think joss
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whedon by this point I think they're
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like a script doctor and you know done
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television and done movies like you need
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that kind of resume to be able to just
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pull this off a mediocre this is three
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years like two or three years work for
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Josh we could you know he could have
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the work on this on this and this film
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have so I'm doing a show for a couple
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years instead but you know what kind of
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guy you Justice League is all i'm going
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if we will see we shall see it will be
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very interesting
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ok we are going to wrap it up it has
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been a pleasure to have everybody here
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in person to talk and of course we all
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saw it together we didn't record during
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theater presentation because you
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couldn't hear us over the explosions i
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would like to thank all of my guests for
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being here today around the table Tony
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sindelar thank you comfortable
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disassembled Dan Morgan thank you for
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being here and letting us use your home
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no disassemble John siracusa thank you
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in the next movie deceive fill in the
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little gem holes on his knuckles or what
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yeah I think that's it's a game it's
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like a like a mastermind it's like Legos
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her mastermind along it slow motion I
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was raising up of one hand and history
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of cinema
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uh-huh yep india naka thank you i spent
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my enjoyed the mismatch pile of Miss
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colored legos isn't any other that forms
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Avengers 2 I I didn't I guess I don't
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revive I seem to be drifting towards I
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didn't not like it but I some I semi
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enjoyed that and i will say that part of
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it was because I changed my expectations
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of this movie like a b-plus that we say
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people get a strong recommendation from
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andy and i know you heard it here answer
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and it'll have a slight angle good yeah
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you know I could just shoot Andy and no
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one would know just fell on him
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yeah but if it's an Avenger sort of
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killing then we wouldn't find out what
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happened or what happened to come to be
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continued in anyway thank you to
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everybody out there for listening I've
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been your host Jason cell thanks to
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everybody for coming tonight once again
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and we will see you next week with an
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episode that was recorded in our
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individual homes where we can be alone
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with ourselves
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goodnight
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