00:00:00 ◼ ► I have a good eye i told you i've told you before we started the show I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► sodastream stories out of nowhere and I here so that it's psychoanalyze me I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► on your couch bend your your the the psychoanalyst so eat everything on texts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► that i was looking for a drink with recommendations for for the pop gasps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/14">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► and I decided to go with a sodastream and scotch in into separate classes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► drink my Scotch straight to be clear longtime listeners of the show know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► i'm i'm a firm believer that all you need to be successful and in today's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/26">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► world you need three things you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► well actually maybe my three things have changed but I forget but right now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► would say the three things you need is you need you need good coffee rust way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► he's got to be real fussy about it like real good coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► you need highly carbonated water and the only way to get it it's in my opinion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/47">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► sodastream machine so you can you can carbonate your own water and you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► clicky keyboard that's those are my three keys to success that if he asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/58">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► me why during fireball and and this podcaster doing well it's that i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/62">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► I've sodastream and I and super carbonated water and I have very clicky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► keyboard i have an apple extended keyboard to here's the problem the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/74">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► problem is about a week ago my current carbonation canister my soda stream ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/79">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► attic of of co2 and so it's always so demoralizing that happens it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/88">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► the little the little pit into the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► well here's my m-my my strategy for years I mean years now has been that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/97">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► have four canisters of co2 and when three get empty i go to there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/103">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► william sonoma crosstown right in center city philadelphia i take the three empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/111">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► ones to to the williams-sonoma I exchange them you get like a discount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/117">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► when you give them the empties and you can buy new ones so i always buy 32 time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/122">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► but then i have my fourth that's in the canister so i don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/127">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► no psych them out well here's the thing I I my thing ran out last week and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► had this thing for years and I went down to where I keep the empties down in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/135">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► bottom floor but it's not really a basement sort of the bottom floor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► I don't know where I don't know where the hell my other ones are iike and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► spent all day and i asked i asked Amy I i we looked at I looked everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/147">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► I don't know where the hell I put my I don't know what happened at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/153">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► in the last few weeks or months i had either me or I suspect quite frankly my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/157">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► wife moved my my refill canisters and I don't know where the hell they are so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/164">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► I couldn't make fizzy water and so I was stuck buying what i did is i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/173">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► buying like pellegrino and and some perrier like I even forget like I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► used to make my own i forget which I like better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► that's why do I by the I i have the 24 pack . costco that I keep for like car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/187">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► yeah I think I like Perry better than Pellegrini I think Perry aids a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► bit more bite to it but either way I but then I'd run out and I couldn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/199">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► I mean but I was dehydrated because i cannot drink flatwater it's just awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/205">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► and here the days are going by and I'm dehydrated and are miserable and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/211">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► even when I have the stuff in the house even when I have like Perry or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► i'm unhappy with it because it's nowhere near carbonated enough for my taste and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/222">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► then I realized just as literally yesterday I realized you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► could just go to the goddamn william sonoma and buy a couple more canisters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► of the stuff and if and when I find the ones that are somewhere in my house i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/234">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► use them eventually too and I can still take even though i'll have more empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/241">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► canisters then I need i'll just take them all but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/247">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► why did it take me a week that's my question why did it take me a week to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► realize i can just go there and and by the goddamn refills that I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/254">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► why did I make myself miserable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/260">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► then I laughed because i have done the exact same thing I will get to so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/264">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► you you'll be used by the department store i'll get to the park department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► store like all sure I want to get more canisters but forgot to bring it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/271">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► I don't have any car eating canisters it's totally illogical and I do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► exact same thing i just i somehow convinced myself that I need the 141 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/282">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► exchange to to get the refills when I don't I don't I didn't need that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/287">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► went there with the one refill that I had because of the one that was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► that I just emptied and and it i will send the canisters know I know and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/297">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► wife said you know as soon as you come home you're going to find that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► canisters and and I said yeah he was waiting he was waiting for you to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► and then she was gonna smuggle them back to the self where they were so you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/310">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► so often find them right well that seems like the Murphy's Law way that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► roll but it did not actually happen I'd i still have no idea where the hell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► the canisters are if anybody knows where my extra canisters are please please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/321">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► it occurs to me it does occur to me because it's it's like having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/328">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► superpower having as many Twitter followers as I have and you know i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/337">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► it can be a superpower like on the last episode with the guy English when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/343">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► wondering what the hell you probably don't remember this because you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► think you're a Mac user back then but i was wondering about there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► chooser extension for the classic mac OS that if you had a local talk network if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► you ever if other people had this chooser extension you could effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/361">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► show you can like chat to them you could eat it if we both had it i could look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/366">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► your machine if I knew and I knew your max name I could send you a message so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/372">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► it was effectively like instant messaging over the local talk network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/378">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► back in the very early nineties and i could not remember the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/382">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► chooser extension and googling for anything like pre-google is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/386">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► difficult very difficult and and googling for this particular problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► really and unless there's some better way to phrase it there's a common word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/397">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► involved yeah yeah it doesn't give you the answer and so I asked on Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/401">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► within like five minutes somebody was you know had the answer was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► broadcast and as soon as they said broadcast I was like that's it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► somebody even posted screenshots of it which is amazing because if you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/414">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► broadcast chooser extension classic mac OS and Google you still don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/418">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► screenshots in there like image search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► it's it's literally on google ball even if you know the name of it but asking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/425">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► Twitter got me the answer and i have to say it does occur it often occurs to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/431">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► in situations like what i'm looking for the SodaStream of my house like I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► ask Twitter and then I realized nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► twitter is going to be able to help me on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/443">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► yeah it's um I yeah it's funny I've ever really that is kind of that today I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/449">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► I was not about the mini microsoft remember that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► oh yeah it was great well it's great yeah he's kind of stopped right yet know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/458">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► it that's why i asked these silly i don't know why the guide to sell occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► to me so i just threw it on Twitter what happened many microsoft and I heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► someone actually kind of off the record that said that they he left microsoft it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/471">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► easy enjoy was but I'm and of course the joke is you know cuz you want you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/476">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► he piped down on the time seems nasty was always a joke that Steven Sinofsky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/480">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► was actually uh was actually me microsoft see he was very complimentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/484">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► of sandusky in general and you know very anti very anti bomber arm so is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/489">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► this is it's not be jumping on the threat is like up you got me but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► those but actually funny the funny sketches always was was a contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/498">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► counter notions are our anonymous friend where he said he's now known as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/503">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► amazon which is probably true given that he was that it wasn't microsoft but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/507">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► that that's like the most inside of love of both the Seattle and tech jokes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/514">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► it looks so beautiful too because he'd spell microsoft with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► quote msft so is mi ni msft and somehow like that like eight character named it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/531">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► looked very balanced to me and and he was a guy for years who ran a blog where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/542">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► he and I think I don't think anybody disputes that he actually worked there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/546">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► I mean you can't he was anonymous obviously or pseudonymous would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► better way but he was like a pseudonymous apple or not Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/554">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► Microsoft long time Microsoft employee who was a critic of the late bomber era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/558">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► but he was a critical loved microsoft right like that that's what made it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/566">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► compelling and saw saw tremendous potential there and I think in hindsight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/573">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► was largely proven correct that what he saw as folly you know and I think folly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/578">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► is a good way to put it turned out to be correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► yeah had no absolutely adore the end and the other thing that was amazing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/589">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► it too was he had these unbelievable comment threads and always post because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/596">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► yeah and so he would have these thousand comment long posts that up like debating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/601">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► stuff going back and forth like it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► I mean he's slow down like me the site still there it's it's it's many msft dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/609">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► blog spot.com but but I mean at the time especially when he's posting regularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/613">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► like it was like the outlet for for like Microsoft inks and complaints and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/619">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► it was really something else yeah yeah let's imagine we have that originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► had it so good at Apple doing that like how how how many black ops would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/628">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► bring in to find out who the guy was or the gal was or whatever it might be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/633">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► don't think I you know that's interesting i know that some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/638">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► think that I i wonder if they would I mean my understanding i know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/641">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► that off the cuff of a lot of people seem to think that Apple does what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/648">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► you call it counter espionage and you know but they don't that Apple does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/655">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► I really am i understanding i mean i can't prove it but my understanding is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/664">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► that apple doesn't really have like anybody inside who like investigates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/670">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► leaks or anything like that that they don't and specifically they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/677">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► because they think that if it ever leaked that they have a team that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/681">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► investigates leaks it would be the wood so so bad PR why's that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/686">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► worse than the actual leaks and that the only reason that so little tends to leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► from apple is really really even the avian as your head current head count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► grows it's literally just the internal culture of people who work here don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/700">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► yeah wait I'll tell you to and on the first day on the orientation like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/706">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► like this orientation is very upbeat and all the great things like Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► history of blah blah and then like this very stern looking security woman came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/715">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► in and like I I'm television or a bunch of interns when i was there so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/720">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► we're all kind of young impressionable anyway but she put the holy fear of God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/724">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► in you like it was incredible it was it was it was delightful looking at it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► the outside us today they're like oh crap i will never leaked anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► everything it was it was it was awesome i remember her big example was ifo apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/736">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► store I think like the old the old the old dog that that tracked apple stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/744">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► and she was like yeah i can remember what the context was remember that blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/748">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► was one of the examples she had but yeah it was something else but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/753">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► agree obviously a horse presentations that could last that long it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/758">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► absolutely a cultural cultural thing and yeah it's like they're remember going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/761">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► into an office and like my first couple days and someone like and I was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/768">TS</a>]
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00:24:39 ◼ ► talk about Apple Apple first and we shot it to both the apple iphone end to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► UN um guys discussion on the services idea which I thought was actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► good I enjoyed it i just i had 111 addition to make well make it now let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► so last week show guy and I spent a long time talking about your recent piece on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► on apple and services and and their their organizational structure so tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► me what you quit the only thing I would say is is when I say Apple services i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► talking I about much more than just iCloud and I think that that was a I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► say that an article about i probably could have made the point more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► forcefully because people here apple services and they think I cloud like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► iCloud as it is a day I actually agree with you it's mostly fine i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► proper your password way too much for one uh but but when that when I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► sources that includes things like the app story include like that is a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► and I don't think it's run optimally like it and I think it's to apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► it's things like Apple pay its things like home kit it's all these ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► things and I think where they actually struggle the most many cases is placed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► systems like have to get merchants to adopt appal pay they need to they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► to get device makers to to integrate with with home kit they need to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► so developers can build sustainable business on the app store like all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► go into the services bucket and I think in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► apple is not good at those and it's not just the timing issue it's the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► issue like it was a big reason why apple sucks that stuff is they they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► very hard time of letting go of control and so that that was the one that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► guys didn't talk about that part and actually think that's the more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► part because that's the potential part that's what Apple like it's so easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► look at stuff that companies do poorly but often the bigger the greater damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► is the stuff that's not done the advantages that aren't taking advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► of all the opportunities are taking advantage of and so that was just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► one kind of missing piece I don't you think Apple pay as inventive don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► think apple pays an example of Apple getting it right where they have they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► built this thing on top of that they're not requiring people to have an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► retailers to have a Apple pay proprietary sensor it's it's this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► that works you know with with anybody you know it works with android phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► its it was already there like some retailers on day one could just say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► and I think that the growth and Apple pay is actually pretty impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► I i sewed and I think Apple pay is actually a really interesting example to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► talk about and the reason is because first off because multiple components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► that that go into Apple pay so first off the there's the actual Hardware aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► of it which is brilliantly done it works really well there is a one downside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► which I personally I trigger Apple pay too often just in general day-to-day use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► which is kind of annoying especially since i haven't I want it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► that part's awesome the and at which makes sense apple it's it's a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► example of Apple integrating all the different pieces that go into making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► so the the hardware aspect is amazing too and the secure Enclave and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► got the banks to heal very effectively and in general if you look at apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► any q's division and all that sort of stuff from a business development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► perspective they're actually usually pretty good at working with big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► established players they understand ago she understand how we're leverages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► how to use it and things like that you know we've seen that with the label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► we've seen that with windows out the banks and so Apple but again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► when you get a bunch of apple executives and other companies in a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► Apple feels like they can control that situation they do it well where I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► Apple has really dropped the ball is in coming up with an effective means to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► retailers on board the guess they've got to the big retailers and work with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► again directly but where's the in where's the incentive program for small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► where's the program to go and get information on Apple pay and supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► where's the program to get stickers for your door that says Apple pay supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► here all that stuff is non-existent and I actually wrote about this in a update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► actually heard from multiple people who wanted to support apple pay because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► the what you there was the liability shift last fall which is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► opportunity for Apple to take advantage of and and they're like we we like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► we couldn't get over apple there's nothing on the side about what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► that we bought a new we've got a new payment processor none of them said if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► they support apple pear not so we didn't know so apples not working with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► manufacturers of these things and that's where Apple falls down because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► something you can't an apple representative can't go out and talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► every small and medium-sized businesses can talk to every merchant they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► should talk to every manufacturer payment terminals but they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► apparently but but what you have to do is you have to create incentives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► have to have like bonus programs you have to figure out ways that people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► sign up seamlessly to integrate the rewards program or coupon or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► might be and that sort of stuff where it's it's self-serve apple doesn't do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► good job with that stuff and I again you can see that with the app store i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► like this the people that Apple deals with directly they do a good job and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► partner well but when it comes to creating the conditions for success for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► people broadly that aren't necessarily gonna ever talk to apple one-on-one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► company doesn't do a good job and and I think that's why Apple pay like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► was this huge opportunity last year with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► liability shift where basically what happened was it if you didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► chip readable terminal and someone had a chip card you are liable for any fraud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► and vice versa if you if you didn't have a chip card advantage of terminal then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► you're liable for fraud so so it was it means that was a great example of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► incentives drive change they couldn't force people to upgrade their terminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► but they could say if you don't you're gonna be held liable and so people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► would pave themselves to to upgrade and apples that was a huge exam for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► pay to be all over that and be advertising say these chips suck they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► take a long time to use it takes like 60 seconds or 30 seconds whatever process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► everyone's gonna buy new ones Apple should have had a huge blitz they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► have marketing targeted business owners and none of that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► absolutely none of it so you're saying even though the growth is great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► could have been it could be accelerated if Apple were doing everything is hugely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► accelerated right right because apple pays not never going to reach its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► potential and less people have confidence that it will mostly be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► in the way we actually this is a time to the echo thing right the reason one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► reason i like Alexa much better than Cirie is I'm shocked when Alexa doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► work and i'm pleasantly pleased when when serie does like there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► line that is like where you assume it's going to work and Apple pay is a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► ways away from that wine like in with what happens is even if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► mcdonald's accepted or walgreens accept it or whatever the places maybe you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► not in the habit at all of using it because no one wants to walk up and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► like an amoeba tones geeks will a lot of us were up a UH but normal people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► want to be in that awkward situation and so it's just frustrating because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► such a great product is so much potential because I mean it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► imagine Apple owning your wallet like and it's it need what opportunities are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► out there if they really established this and make it are very real thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► again that's my services criticism it's not that the stuff they do isn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► it's not frankly but it's not that big a deal is probably mostly fine it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► opportunities that I believe they're missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► it's an interesting or i don't know i don't know i was i was appreciative that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► you didn't dismiss my proposal right so I'll take what I can get it what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► so what do you think you just said this or some something I link to this week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► I message as a it might have been the that group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► kookai link to said tim cook should be fired which is cropped up again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► soon as its yeah he he's he's he's a he's a character to say the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► wait who was it Oh left sets yeah that's it by our places i held up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► I message as like Apple dropping the ball because they're keeping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► proprietary and I unless it is a kook and he's not the only person who said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► but what to me I message is is a a very it under appreciated aspect of modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► apple because they don't fit in it it is to me almost a a pure APPL service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► because nobody else would ever do anything like this because it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► make sense for anybody else to do it is like overbought blackberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► yeah i guess so i guess so i guess you're right i guess it is sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► copy of BBM and that's that's that's fair you know and like but that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► testament to to the point and like that's like the tension here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► because I message is a beautiful example of Apple having a a vertical sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► model where their services differentiate their hardware like I message is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► reason to have and use an iphone like I tried to switch to android when my arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► was broken because the speech recognition is so much better and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► the things that made it very difficult was the lack of my message like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► it's it's a super great locking it really is and yeah and it's so the know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► services thing is so fraught because to date it has been about differentiating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► apples services and the question is in the long run like is that is that enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2094">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► right that the thing that to me is underappreciated is that if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► and I started messaging service that that had only in exactly the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► that I message has end-to-end encryption I you you can put its you can send texts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► and you can embed images and that's it and we got as many users as I message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► has it would be a tremendously valuable company it you know it's on the scale of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► like what's happened what's the other one you know mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► I'll line we draw in college right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► it's it or no now it is the number of you know in and whatever a buzzword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► metric you want to use like daily active users it it's huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► I message is huge in terms of how many people send or receive an iMessage every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► day it would be tremendously valuable and it goes completely unto me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► unrecognized in people evaluating apple and maybe I don't think maybe it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► shouldn't maybe it maybe it shouldn't because you know the other ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► people value Apple there are intrinsically tied to I message exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► because people value Apple based on how many iphones they sell and the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► message is leveraged by apple right now is as a tool to sell more iphones and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► it is properly valued like the only way it should be valued separately is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► Apple explicitly starts to think about it as as a service in its own right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► maybe you could do that was while retaining it being only on on iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► you may have we maybe have less potential then but but no III don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► think it is undervalued people think oh they look at what's up to 18 billion we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► know how much as I measures words that we ended up with about like the stocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► unfair baba it's not because Apple has strategy is such that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► it is a part of the iphone and the iphone is valued very highly apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► still the most valuable company in the world and it it leads me to what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► has invented as end to me a fairly as its own metric I and I think it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► going back two or three quarters where they've started citing this number of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► don't know they're calling it daily but actively used devices and their say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► they're saying that they would I think it's a billion write a building up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► there's a billion Apple devices in active use which isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► it in no other company may be other than samsung samsung I guess it would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► interesting I guess samsung could could act could use that figure and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► be interesting to especially considering that Samsung has things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► refrigerators and washing machines and microwave oven now seriously it is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► I'm laughing because I first sorry is it all aside side . but the this the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► not even about Sam's life I never tell this story but now I've got myself too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► far in their ways during the NCAA tournament you know you see the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► yeah and i think it was a couple years ago there's a commercial for the LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► smartphone like the optimists or prime or whatever it's called that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► right name but it's something like that and they would get the commercial would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► be all about the phone at the very end I think Kenny Smith was was the guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► was doing it was a great Anthony they would show him in front of the line up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► like water since dryers and refrigerators which the whole commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► was not about it all but they felt like they felt the need to squeeze that into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► this ad there's a lot of money for it cracked me up every single time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► thought everything that's like been three years and still laughing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► er sorry that was totally totally off track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► well now that i think about it though I died I realized that there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► companies you know Sony and in LG any of those companies that I guess could cite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► I guess what makes apples metric more interesting is that apples devices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► things that you pay attention to you know they're real computers is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► they're talking about it is and I honestly Apple talking about services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► and other services company is totally legitimate because it is a it is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► the vast majority of it is from the app store and most from pay to play games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► because you know that's all that Apple has enabled from a business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► perspective which I'm happy to rant and rave about but it is real money and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► they're right and it is also real potential like if they actually did get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► serious about it like up you can do a lot with a billion devices and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► that's it is nothing with the iCloud thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► the reason why I don't like focusing on iCloud is because the implication of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► folks in iCloud is it should be on all devices like Apple music is on Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► and stuff but what I think is the huge potential for apple is device specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► services it is it is the things like Apple pay it is the things like home kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► is the things like the watch like the watch the huge potential for the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► from my perspective is being the key to your life like literally the key your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► watch it open your door watch it or should I just start your car you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► watching me your badge at work like your watch should be this movable piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► identification that operate in Apple Apple pay like the watch with apple pays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► amazing it you just have to find a place that has Apple pay you know I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► about that too that the wood the watch as your sort of key to your life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► I've written about it too little way too little maybe even borderline not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► in terms of a the big picture question of which I've sort of been writing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► recently is why did they do the what you know why did they do the why did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► release the watch when they did with the features that it has you know should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► they have released a body obviously the watches it's significantly flawed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► the most flawed device apple has released in $YEAR and in modern history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► and i recently I've been writing either you know I've positive and with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► a group with that grouper justjust despond hundred articles but could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► continue i I've posited though that Apple should have either waited longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► to release the watch so that it would have been faster and that some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► features that don't work well would have worked better or cut those features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► don't work well on the watch as we know it and released when they did but i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► think lost in there is that one of the reasons that I think they wanted to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► asu no sooner rather than later that flaws though it had is that idea though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► being a sort of key to your life I do i do think there's tremendous potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► there and I thought about things like you know touch ideas such an eye opener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► on on iOS devices but it's conspicuously absent on the mac and every time I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► to type my password to unlock you know wake up my mac i think what a pain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► the asses every single time and why you know if ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► well people watch on the this should be locked yeah exactly and people a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► about it's like a frequently a emailed question to me is you know like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► with the recent update to the macbook one that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► hey how come they don't put a touch ID sensor on the macbook because I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► used to on this and I tend to think that the answer isn't touch ID for the mac i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► tend to think the answer is like some sort of way of if you if you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► watch on and you're within a very very close distance you know like like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► inches of the mac that it just unlocks there are actually apps you can get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► do this and they do it with the phone as well but they're a little clunky as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► anything kind of third parties yet has to be havin dinner party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► yeah I know that apps who and no the other thing with with the macbook is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► touch ideas is intimately integrated with the secure Enclave on the already a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► serious chips so as long as there isn't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► arm-based max I don't think there's going to be touch ID yeah that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► probably true and I just I just tend to think that is the wrong form factor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► the fact that it it it kind of makes sense from it has to it should be to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► due to be done right it has to be platform wide that any mac or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► new mac could do it but touch ID to do it the exact same way would only work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► macbooks because there's there's just no feasible way that that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► well i guess not no feasible way but you'd have to have you know two haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► work on the imax and mac pro's remember the macro will make that you you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► have to build it into the keyboard and it's you know and the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► could do it from the watch i guess if you could do from the watch you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► from the keyboard you know that it would be some kind of secure way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► wirelessly but it just makes more sense to me that it would be the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► know and like you said like it should start your car it could let you in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► house if you have a smart door you know it's there's so many ways that it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► be done for that and it would be a tremendous like it would really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► start to remove so many questions about why are they building we know why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► they make a device that you can wear you know on your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► no I completely agree and I mean this has been my vision for the watch kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► from the beginning I actually thought they might not even have a screen at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► meeting because i was still like to me this idea of being the key to your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► and the notifications I mean the best feature of the watches the taptic engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► and unless it fails but I mean it's like that's what makes it really great i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► to wear regularly i would argue though that the taptic engine is the best in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► theory it's the best feature but in practice it's not and and I think part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► of that is me being biased because i have my watches the stainless steel one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► and idea fire and I've worn the aluminum ones enough and it's you know I just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► privilege of of getting review units and being able to try both because i realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► most people why in the world would a normal person be able to wear both but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► have an aluminum model here that I don't know it's you know it's a review unit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► but it's eye-opening after a while how much better the taptic engine is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► aluminum models than the steel ones and I've even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► I've tried it I've tried my son has the aluminum you know the sport model too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► and I've worn his just for it you know like an hour or so and just said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► hey just sent me a text every couple minutes you know or send yourself a text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► you know because it would sink to his phone but so i would feel it on my wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► and it feels so much better and it's you know it's hot out of that how does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► feel on the addition John I don't know I actually i've i've never even tried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► addition honest even even reviewers don't even get to try to you know i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► noticed though the apple the Apple store here in center city philadelphia used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► be one of the stores that had the edition models in the display and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► could buy the edition model here and just last week Amy and I were had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► we're running errands and center stating we stopped in to the apple store and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► edition models are gone in Philadelphia store interesting it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► yeah i noted a while ago that that there would seem to quietly be emphasizing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► addition less and less and there's some pushback from a few people on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► who are saying no they're not you know and it's still there it's just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► just putting in it you know they just rearrange it is not really less emphasis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► but there's no doubt in my mind that they're just quietly you know it I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► that quietly is often overused like finally when talking about Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► know Apple quietly you know blood and it's you know not really any less or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► more quiet than anything else it's just that they're not trumpeting it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► nowhere on i'm on the front page of the watch page and there is not an addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► on here and not like 15 watches on your now it's this there but to me the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► that they're backing away from the edition model watches really is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► a quiet like you know let's start pretending like this doesn't exist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► is the Hermes yep models of the watch that's the and you know like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► stainless steel link bracelets you know that the the luxury version of the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► are the ones that cost thousands of 2,000 not five to twenty thousand yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► think it'll be interesting to if we look back on that addition sort of series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► I we had so much fun to speculate about that i would cost a pretty sure we'd all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► like yeah the whole time I'm looking at the whole kind nature there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► yep and and yeah if we look back at this sort of a a a kind of hubristic moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► to be honest I mean we're going to sell a a twenty-thousand-dollar watch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► because we can and we're and we're gonna show it at these you know fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► boutiques and all sorted often you know it into lots of people's credit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► was a significant sector of of the sort of Apple you know world that felt very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► uncomfortable with that uh you know more so than i did to be frank and and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► there was something really to that has fascinating way for your way we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► this discussion I think they like the whole andy warhol coke thing right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► and yes the function of an addition was the same as the function of a sport but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► just the idea because what made what makes the iPhone so powerful as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► consumer product there's lots of things about to make a powerful but the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► phone in the world has an entry price of 650 dollars and while that is massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► more expensive than the cheapest android you can get 50 bucks on an absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► basis it's just not that much money and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► whereas cars you see all the iphones the BMW cars will sure but on an absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► basis of bmw's what minimum 35,000 want something you know if you want a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► BMW it's it's it's a lot more than that like just absolute numbers matter and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► absolute basis the iphone has never been that expensive on a percentage but on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► relative basis yes it is absolutely expensive but and that is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► 42 Apple you can have the best phone in the world for relatively to the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► scheme of luxury goods not that much money i forget what year it was but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► may be but it's probably the last year and went to South by Southwest and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► that's probably like twenty ten or maybe it was even 2011 but somewhere around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► the last year I went to South by Southwest and in austin and me and Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► quad all and Michael op and a few other people went to dinner at $TIME at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► steakhouse and as we were leaving we were like waiting in the entry area in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► like sort of way of the the restaurant to leave and we saw by him standing by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► himself waiting i guess to go in it seemed it very soon seemed like he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► waiting to to meet his party we saw Michael Dell and it was like holy shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► that's Michael Dell you know there's a billionaire and he was on his phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► I don't know what kind of phone he was using but the thought just popped into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► my head he's a billionaire and I have a better phone than he does it I don't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► was such a weird but it was like holy shit there's Michael Dell Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► and then I because he was on his phone and it was clearly some sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► I don't know what I don't know if it wasn't someone iphone i was not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► iphone and I realize because it was not an iphone whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► he's a billionaire but i have a better phone than he does and it was like such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► a weird spot and it is that sort of egalitarians thing that if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► take the addition out of the Apple watch lineup and just look at what they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► without the addition it makes total sense to me as an apple product where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► ranges from 2 99 too i think the most expensive is the Hermes stuff which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► I'm looking $1,500 and take the cuff out and it's you know they think it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► 1254 one of the Hermes models and that makes studies is the cheapest stainless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► steels like 450 something that Apple has always had kind of two levels and white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► house right they have a low in the high-end like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► yeah it does make portraits but i really do think one of the fascinating you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► that the whole like him some of the hand-wringing I i think the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► the addition is folly and it's a sign that the company is distracted has merit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► I think that the hand-wringing over the difference between the sport aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► sport models in the stainless steel models though is misguided because to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► the range is reasonable but it's also fascinating to me that to me at a at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► functional level the sport models are actually better because the taptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► engine works better that the one thing that the stainless steel models have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► that the sport don't that is functionally better is that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► Sapphire cover for the display truly is scratch-proof like about mine i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► and i think that i still think they look better too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► they do look better I think so too i do but i had a every other functional level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► because the the taptic engine works better that the sport models is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► a you know its superior and and so in terms of like the speed of the CPU and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► the resolution of the display etc etc it's all the same exactly the same you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► don't get you use you spend the extra money and all you're getting is the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► you can touch that the materials are better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► so two observations one it's interesting that all the Hermes models are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► stainless steel there's no tradition and 2 i've been clicking around the site for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► the last five minutes i cannot find the addition anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► yeah I honestly cannot find it on the website yeah it's down the memory it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► actually since I brought it up it's actually been at emphasized even less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► no I oh there is Washington you could only find it in the by tab in all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3234">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► like product marketing tabs in rights and it's non-existent it's completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► not really gone right and I that makes me think i would place a bet here today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► may fifth that when we see Apple watch to point out there is no addition model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► that its rights or and I don't maybe they'll come up with a name but its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► I think the addition thing is gone and i know for a fact i have heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► numerous at least several I wouldn't say numerous but several people within Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► that there was significant debate within the company at high levels as to whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► edition should be a thing or not and that it was Johnny I've and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► anybody who's under him maybe you know I almost certainly mark Newsome who pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► for it and that there were others within the company who are like this is Rodino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► this is not a good idea you know but that was more or less a Johnny I've idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► and that I think that all i mean obviously ultimately it came down to Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► Cook and I think ultimately and now I don't know this this isn't you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► the people i've talked to don't you know aren't the sort of people who would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► what Tim Cook was thinking but my my guess is that it wasn't that Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► wasn't so much that Tim Cook thought it was a good idea in and of itself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► that Tim Cook wanted to make Johnny happy and that making Johnny happy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► doing this edition thing and and there's something so telling about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► whether or not it may be right but is this idea that Apple is at the very top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► of the company still ruled by consensus and and the power of apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► organizational structure which i wrote about is the way it kind of forces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► collaboration in groups have to depend on each other and there is no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► dictator but that worked in part a lot of apples organization was Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► wanting to make an apple that could be his his instrument that he could play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► right like that would do his bidding and like there's the counterweight of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► dictator at the top that's that's the way I friend is editor and I actually my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► eye I think this is it up university i came up with a backpack then like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► best way to think about what jobs does that Apple's he's the editor or what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► Apple was he is the editor-in-chief likey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► he didn't write the copy he didn't do the things he may have tweaked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► headline to make it that much more gripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► and he said no any any cut stuff in any any push the 14 he said all we should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► work on this sort of thing and for all the good things that Tim Cook has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► all the things that he's good at and to his credit he knows he's not that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► he's not a product person so I think he's empowered Johnny for sure but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► johnny johnny has a distinct set of skills that are not I don't think as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3415">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► broad as jobs were and and I don't know that he has the connection to and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► empathy for that the kind of common man and you see this i think some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► design decisions as well particular when it comes to the user interface that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► jobs in either and you know you always hate to break out the you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► missed Steve sort of thing when it comes to the watch it comes to having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► addition it comes to having these apps that were underpowered in this watchkit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► idea which was a disaster like the watch should have if the watch was nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► the display and notifications like one it would be a great experience to what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► the crystal doesn't have access to that is with that but implicit in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► criticism is oh but of course they're coming soon right all the iphone watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► the apps to write and it's such a different framing about the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► it's a framing of it's not what it is now but it has the potential to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► it's great now but it's gonna be even better as opposed to it kind of sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► now and it might be better in the future like just the tone of that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► I we've you know this is it's not just me you know but I feel like there's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► a researcher I i think it's sort of the the roughly one-tenth of the watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► one-year-old has sort of brought out a lot of you know big picture hey well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► let's take it let's relook at Apple watch commentary and you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► certainly written a lot more about it recently then then I had for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► i'm with you i really do think fund at a fundamental level that shipping with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► appstore was a mistake or maybe not an SDK but that the sdk should not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► been about quote-unquote apps it should have been an sdk for empowering smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► notifications right or the ski stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► the what the key stuff like being the key to your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I see what you mean I I somehow thought you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► yeah on but yeah like the way that you there are apps like a I have this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► app I use that have long used this great app on the iphone called do tue that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► a it to me it's way better than it it's a way to set reminders either one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► reminders like go pick up the dry cleaning & friday on friday at five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► o'clock or repeating reminders like every wednesday at ten o'clock i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► due reminder that tells me to take the trash out that works better for me than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► either putting them on my calendar or using like the clock app or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► like that because they're out of the way I don't want these things I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► my calendar to say take out the trash every day at ten o'clock i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► my calendar to say take out the trash every day at ten o'clock i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► a calendar to just tell me things that are actually novel so do is a great app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► for that and the watch integration with do is great but because it lets me do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► things like you can do let you snooze things and so you can snooze by like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► hour three hours or a whole day and they're just button so you just scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► down on the Apple watch and it'll be like you know market is done because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► you've done it or snooze for an hour three hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► great that's and it's a total like notification it's not really a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► it doesn't launch an app it's just that the notification is smart in that way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► that sort of sdk definitely the Apple it's to its integral for what the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► watch is actually good for so I don't want to say no sdk but definitely it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► should not I I really feel firmly that it should not have apps because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► abscess it's such a bad experience every aspect of it from the beginning to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► end from launch actually just launching the app on that honeycomb screen all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► way to the end of using the app is a bad experience and I really think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► shouldn't have had it that way they waited to take this kind of full circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► the problem with do is there's you can integrate with Siri then like the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► which is siri one of the things i do use Siri for regularly is to do reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► things particularly when I'm driving I wasn't driving and a i find it very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► helpful very helpful then but we're what 45 years on now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► yeah five years on and there is no sdk for Cirie and meanwhile you have amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► to do do the actual thing where the sdk is going spreading like wildfire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► what wildfire and are there in the are there in some respects it gets this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► whole tension is the Amazon kind of vernacular more limited yes you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► kind of train yourself you have to use the right language right but but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► also imparts a degree of flexibility and an experimentation and easy to plug in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3714">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► Tunis that is really works to its credit Emil apples trying to perfect this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► natural language interface and have a have a an assistant that makes jokes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► you that make you want to throw your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► on in the ocean when it makes a joke because it just misinterpreted what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► said four times in a row and it is just like hold their you know that is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► stop stop i want to get on the second stop stop i was getting worked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3741">TS</a>]
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01:02:32 ◼ ► floor let son work you out and talk about one of my favorite longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► sponsors of the show is automatic automatic is the connected car companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3757">TS</a>]
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01:02:49 ◼ ► to go to automatic calm / the talk show and use the code the talk show you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► get a 20-percent off your purchase what is its it's this little dingus that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► like almost like a USB stick and every car made since I think like 1996-1997 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► it goes back a while has this same standard diagnostic port and automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► Condell belt help you find it on your car but in other words it's like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► your car says like a service get service code pay for something like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► well it when you go to the mechanic you go to the the car service place they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► plug into this diagnostic port and that's where they figure out what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► automatic you can plug you plug automatic into this exact same port and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► it reads all that stuff and it gets it every single cards really this is a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► had no idea until they started sponsoring the show that this port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► existed and that it was cross platform across all makes and models of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► it tells you everything you need to know it knows it can it can tell you things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► about your fuel economy it can tell you exactly when there is an error or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► sort of services do exactly what service that means so you can know like hey this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► is actually important you better go get service right away or this is the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► of thing like yeah I better get this looked at soon but i can wait a week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► two if I need to add you know but it tells you all sorts of things tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► whether the way that you're driving is maximizing your fuel efficiency or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► they have what they call that you know an app store and it lets you integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► your car and you're driving with all sorts of things it really is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► internet of things that connected life brought real because you can integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► with things like nest your mechanic freshbooks and more so you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► I mean this really is like the Future made real you can have things like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► you're within X miles of your house have your nest thermostat change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► temperature in your house you know in this is right now it's May so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► heading more towards our conditioning so you turn on the air conditioning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► lower the temperature in the winter you can have it turn on the heat and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► raise the temperature really it works it is amazing and it even works with ifttt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► if this then that which it literally makes almost unlimited possibilities of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► the ways that you can integrate this with your life on its it is useful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► it is it trust me it is actually fun it is really cool to have a car that can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► stuff like this and just to get that information even just even if it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► integrate with other devices or something like that it's actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► cool just to get the information it's totally private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► automatic doesn't sell your data its to all they want you to do is just buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► gadget and there's no monthly fees no subscription so normally the automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► dingus is ninety-nine dollars but with you go through this URL go to automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► calm / the talk show and remember the code the talk show and you'll save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3969">TS</a>]
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01:06:18 ◼ ► that makes your car the car you already have a wake or so go to automatic calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► the talk show and by this then trust me i don't think there's ever been anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► who's done this who's bought this automatic and who regrets it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3989">TS</a>]
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01:06:37 ◼ ► so you you get your license back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► yeah well I driver that upset i've been lucky you know the vast majority of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► listeners i think still don't think you have a license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► that's like that's like it doesn't ancient joke it this way i think well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► the the longtime listeners well enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► what happens i lost my license a few years ago for driving too fast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► allegedly it adds it adds to the myth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► let's talk about Apple's order before we get too . because I feel like we've you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► know so Apple to 10 days ago or so announced they're fine and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► January to March quarter which is for them in their calendar your cue to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► it was a bad for Apple because in and so far is it was the first time in 13 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► that they had a year-over-year decline in revenue and profit which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► extraordinary streak but obviously you know even if you even if you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► subscribe to the you know had to happen eventually which i think is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► totally true it's impossible to for street like that to go in forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► it's extraordinary isn't it was an extraordinary run but you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► obviously even if it was inevitable it can't be seen as anything other than bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► well it's okay it really it was expected in some respects an extremely last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► quarter in the first like the the first quarter where people were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► begging them i was still pretty optimistic and I thought it was a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► good quarter and and my contention was actually the same thing that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► just wrote last week was that well if you lie I charted out if you took their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► results from 22,000 h 2014 he took it on an annual basis because you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► they shifted when the iphone with soul was launched in the a.m although like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► you can to do it on a quarter-on-quarter basis because stuff has changed but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► you put that on a graph and then forecasted forward what the expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4134">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► would have been 4 2015 2016 they were actually right on track and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► it just happened they picked up like a free 50 million users in 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► well let's take a look I became too let's take a step back though and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► emphasize that that what we're talking about here is that because two-thirds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► apples revenue comes from the iphone fundamentally right now and in for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► foreseeable future just as the iphone goes so goes Apple as a whole and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► was the graph you're talking about was specifically it wasn't about Apple as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► whole it was specifically iphone sales right exactly yet no you're right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► telephone sales and and just experience its 23 it'sit's just it's a room it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► just an enormous as big as ipad and mac and services and and watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► everything else Apple does which would still leave them as an enormous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► arguably it might even still be the most that's one-third yeah they'd still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4194">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► close to the most profitable company in tech or at least they'd be in a bit hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► without the arm profit because the iphone is also the the iphone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► significantly higher margin right products as well so it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► two-thirds of revenue but it's like three-quarters of profit so it's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► absolutely but so fundamentally though as goes the iphone so goes apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► it's the I the decline and iphone sales correlates directly to the decline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► everything else right is it right and so and so I came out of the first quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► pretty optimistic and then this quarter came along and I frankly completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► changed my view like I think that we got a lot more information this quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► about lots of things that frankly discredited a lot of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► Apple itself told us in previous quarters and cast a lot of doubt on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► on the iphone and and I actually think that the situation is worse then uh then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4254">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► the new row last week for example i think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► you and reason for concern and just be super clear that the iphone is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► anywhere like this is a discussion about like the growth prospects of the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► which to your point are about the growth prospects of Apple which by extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► are about the stock the stock is about the future growth opportunity to stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► is not it's not a scorecard it's not it's not a scoreboard what we've done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► the past and i now have very serious like I wrote a thing this weekend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► daily update like I kind of went through like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► there's a data point that is different than I thought it was and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► three assumptions that i had about the iphone business before that I have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► changed my mind assumptions about and that makes and as a whole it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► much more bearish there's an interesting point you're the one who pointed out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► me that not publicly I don't think until now on the show but in when i wrote i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► took the the the stands last week in my the written piece that wandering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4314">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► fireball that what apple announced for q2 was exactly what they had forecast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► q1 and therefore it whether you think this is what however bad or ok you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► this is it shouldn't have resulted in a jolt in the stock but the stock jolted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► badly downward at six or seven percent which is if for apple is about it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► something like 40 billion dollars in market cap just poof and you pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► like for q2 yes they were what they announced was exactly within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► guidance from three months ago but you pointed out and I completely missed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► that the the part that was a surprise or was unexpected or quite frankly contrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► to what Apple had said before was what they're now guiding for q3 which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► q3 this current quarter april-to-june is actually going to be the worst of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► we're that's contrary and people you know and I I've i think i tweeted about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► it i didn't write about on during fireworks people are like no they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► guide more than one quarter in advance so they you know that's not true that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► three but they did indirectly because they said in january and their quarterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► results we think that this upcoming q2 will be the worst and now they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► and that now they're saying actually q3 is going to be the worst and that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► is a huge thing that's actually that is significant and it's it's it's worrisome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► so the first reason so the desk you corazon be worse the first reason to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► worse is they're taking their basically saying there is a rundown inventory to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► the tune of 22 billion dollars and what that means and they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► contrary to what people there's kind of thing a few years ago about ship vs old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► apple and every other manufacturer calculates based on ships not unsold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► because it's just impossible for them to know except for apple stores which only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► selling actually a relatively small fraction of iphones that there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► and so it is calculated schip vs sold and if you look at their their financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► reports you can see like the inventory and what's in the channel that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► stuff and basically over the last two quarters they've been significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► increasing inventory the only reason they were up in the first quarter was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► because they ran up inventory and the only reason they met their guidance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► the second quarter was because of the inventory thing as well and so and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► now they're saying a third quarter we're gonna have to run this inventory down so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► we're very they guided way lower the advantages they're going to meet their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► guidance again right but had they played the inventory game fairly to put it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► the lack of a better word they would have missed last quarter and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► have missed the first quarter as well and and so so one like they actually if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► they were running their business as they've traditionally run it this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► actually be the second miss in a row it instead of being the second barely make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► making guys that's one but then too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► and so you can play and it's easy i would just back up keep your number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► but i would just back up and say that Apple has under the in the Tim Cook era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► and that's not just him cookies see CEO but coo he's there so operationally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► efficient that the ship vs sold thing was easy for us APPL people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► to mock other makers for because with Apple it was it as a 424 any device has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► largely been the relevant because they're so operationally efficient that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► what they ship is what they sell exactly so you with it was actually a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► criticism even if like Ron at technical basis it wasn't quite right like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► implication of the criticisms actually totally fair no you're exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► tend to keep inventory solo and that they really do you know whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► make is what they're selling you know they've been named they make what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► sell and they said what they make but this in this case they've obviously made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► you know they they got ahead of themselves in manufacturing they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► did so in Seoul so wonder the q3 is going to be worse because of the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► here's what here's what's really concerning even if you take out that two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► billion the q3 is still going to be worse at which means like when they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► that and they said that at the end of January which means there was a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► into the current quarter they said that all we think the next court is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► the worst quarter and it turns out like they were wrong like it they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► what's happening with the iphone friendly right you haven't seen Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► bent be this this one a curative the end and it that's just this quarter i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► think we can get to their earnings calls last year which are actually for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► personally or even more concerning some respects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► yeah you wrote about that recently I i did in and I like so I so it i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► maytee firefights let me paraphrase maybe I can do a better job paraphrasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► then then you can because you wrote the piece but paraphrasing and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► correct me or clarify but basically zoom out big picture what we're seeing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► that the iphone 6 last year was and not a anomaly in terms of its popularity it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► was off the curve and but i think i think that the reason was twofold i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► think it was that that was when they hit what's the carrier in china china mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► and it was pent-up demand for larger iphones and with the long rumors you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► know the year-long rumor that hey apple's next iphone is actually going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► be have they're going to have a bigger screen version and anybody who was maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► leaning towards upgrading or getting an iphone was like well i'll wait for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► bigger screen one because i want a bigger screen and that there was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► pent-up demand for that it that it was an anomalously popular but if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► back a year at what Tim Cook said on quarterly these quarterly and an analyst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► calls he downplayed that it was you know hehe more or less made it sound as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► though this is what he expected in that this was the growth that they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► this was organic growth that wasn't anomalous growth exactly a good he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► pressed on every single so from the first to learn is called he volunteer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► oh there's tons of people to have an upgraded yet we have tons of greenfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► and and by the q3 q4 the analyst we're getting a little little skeptical of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► this is tony second ago who asks really good questions every every call and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► been a great skeptic along and he was pressing click on this like look you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► you're so you are you sure that you're not poke not just the the delayed 5s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► upgrades but also pulling forward upgrades for people upgrading early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► because they want to get the big screen phone he's like are you sure that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► in Temple tim cook four times row and I quoted all four times in in my update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► like he said oh no like we think there's tons of great opportunity here only this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► fractions upgraded blah blah and and it was and the reason i'm personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► frustrated like I don't we talk to this one-on-one like the only thing worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► than being wrong is letting something that you said that was wrong like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► persist out there inside you want to correct it and make sure what it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► i wrote a piece last fall like saying stop during the iphone and one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► core things was that this upgrade . because I can't believe cook I believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► him when he said that we're not seeing an upgrade right are the ordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► there's a there's a ton of opportunity and for him to come back on this call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► well there was a massive upgrade cycle last year and obviously as you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► expect to be slower this year it was I mean I don't know the right word for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► because it's in the record he he's changed his tune and in Tony called him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► out on the call and cook actually got a little annoyed headed which was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► really interesting because Tony had him dead to rights because he was the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► one I was asking the questions last year and I I don't think Cook was doing it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► purpose I because that would be stupid will be super fusions one because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► get in trouble too because he look if cooked it on purpose of setting apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► no one of the ppl investment community don't believe Tim Cook right now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► with because he's changed exactly what he's saying and so he's hurt his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► I just kind of think that Apple didn't didn't know why did they didn't didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► really do the research on upgrades and I suspect before this quarter is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► they sent some intern to set to like figure out what are the upgrade rates in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► previous cycles how does that compare to this cycle and they're like oh crap we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► were saying the wrong thing last year actually while the ordinary and and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► have much sore upgrades as a result this year and and that's how that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► yeah I died thinking I think you knew called it out in one of your daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► updates was that it was I daddy finances named Tony second Cox on second alley or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► I was so annoyed because I listen to the call because I I sleep through texts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► during the night here if I woke up and as soon as cook said that like my radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► went up because i remember have said was I'm like and I'm like cookies i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► recall scenario before that notice cook in cooks opening remarks he said all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► this upgrade cycle ball in a medium like that's the key of my daily update I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► gonna nail him on his boy because and that's wrong and it totally ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► question like damn you Tony you just stole my Thunder right so so twofold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► basically and again if I'm summarizing this wrong tell me but to foam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► one it seems like Apple misinterpret a year ago Apple misinterpreted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► successes success are six is success the iphone the original iphone 6 and 6 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► they get misinterpreted their success as being part of the the growth of iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► in general as opposed to being exceptional out of line with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► expected growth they they thought they'd this is you know this is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► growth curve but the truth was it was outside the growth curve they missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► that and then this year they are clearly overestimated the success and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► basically for the same reasons that because they thought the six was normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► they thought the success was going to continue on that path and it did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► well I think they knew the six was out of whack but i think they attributed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► mostly to being them acquiring new customers as opposed to pulled for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► is about as well as opposed to pull for upgrades one thing that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► interesting and this is this is if you want to have a bull case for apple today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► this is probably the one to take is if you invert 2015 2016 that linear why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► talked about actually continues why because right now Apple is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► going to come in with about 200 million iphones but 210 million or so for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► for fiscal year 2016 and and this is nothing that change Apple didn't say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► they hinted that 2016 would be about the same as 2015 2015 20 or 30 million and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► so it seemed like all they have this nice boost on the way but but it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► clearly not happening one but two if you invert that and you pretend that 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► was 205 million and 2016 was 230 million that actual that with that wine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► almost perfectly linear likes an r-squared 2.98 like it's incredibly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► straight on and you could say oh they just got all the 216 buyers just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► body year early and 2017 can revert back to normal like if that is I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► bull case to make for for 2017 in the iphone 7 I I don't buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► that is that is the bull case i can tell you i don't buy it if you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► well tell me tell me why you don't buy it i don't really the reason you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► want a while I it let me meet anybody you first you first i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► extraordinary growth of the iphone was fueled by adding new carriers around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► world and they've already added most of the carrier's did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► there's there's no big pickings left and the up you get that that's 100 it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► when I presented it like that they they like it i actually tried to research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► this and I spent time I spent days on this and it was so hard to figure out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► i need to hire an intern to like try to figure this out and try to measure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► when they went into new carriers in new countries and how that contribute iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► growth but one thing that was always so striking about apple for years is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► accurate the forecasts were right they would miss on the high side button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► missing the high side by the exact same percentage every single time right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► it was uncanny and then they said oh from now on we're actually gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► sure be more concerned we're going to make our guidance actually accurate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► then they were accurate by the exact same amount every time and I wonder how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► much of that was they knew which carriers are coming online in numerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► countries are coming online and they knew because they've done this bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► times we're gonna get this carrier has has has the certain number of customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► we get a certain percent of those customers we know that's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► and they actually built this into contracts right cares had to had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► guarantee a certain number of subscribers and and so they get a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► factor and iphone growth was just increasing the available market of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► iphone and once you got the last one flat like that in there is verizon's ntt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► docomo been a bunch of small ones in general but the last the big one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► China Mobile in China Mobile came on in 2014 and then the iphone 6 launched and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► and that was the last one and now that is gone and the question for growth for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► the iphone 7 is not just getting people to upgrade because there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► evidence that that's extending we can put that as well but where's the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► user is going to come from right yes people are switching I i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► they're switching and I think the iphone will get growth from switchers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► but that's countered by the upgrade cycle being allocated for two reasons 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► phones are just getting better and better and and to the bigger Apple gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► the more they get away you think more they get into like the mainstream and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► people that just aren't that concerned with performance like us geeks are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► upgrade all the time but but the farther away they get from us the the West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► likely it is that they're going to upgrade and you combine that with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► carriers moving to these these plans where once your phone is paid off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► bill actually goes down like there's I'm skeptical where the new users gonna come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► yeah it's it's crazy if you think about it I mean it was only january $MONTH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► I mean that's four years into the iphone that it was available on a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► carrier in the US which is verizon i mean it's it's a long time to spread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► you know they're there was so much potential and that if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► absolutely explosive growth i mean i forget which iphone but it was well into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► the iphone four era maybe even the 4s where is the forest that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► everyone's mind but it wasn't just that each iphone outsold its predecessor it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► was that each iphone outsold all of its predecessors combined right right it ull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► to like the 4th 5th maybe even that sixth iphone generation outsold all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► the previous iphones combined and one before it outsold all of its previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► ones combined it that that the the slope on the growth curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► it'sit's just phenomena it's almost incomprehensible but it was fueled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► largely by yes lots and lots of people wanted iphones once they you know a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► or two in and they understood what it was but they couldn't get it because or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► or thought they couldn't get it because they didn't want to switch carriers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► it wasn't or literally wasn't even available in our country at on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► carrier even if they were willing to switch and and this is especially this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► is such a danger zone for companies where you kind of Miss attribute your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► success and the iphone just grew for so long and is it's easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► even someone as smartest him cooking in his executive team to to just assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► that's going to go on forever and to discount like structural changes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► market where you're you're changing like what if you if the iphone will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► have X percent of the market if you there's two functions like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► either increase that the percentage of the market or you can change the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► Apple was changing the market size slowly and steadily and in some respects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► that's why that you could argue that's why the growth went on for so long i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► like someone like Samsung like Samsung's great strength has always been drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► every single carrier in every single market and they have they have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► massive distribution network and that's why they just came out of nowhere to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► dominate android because they had this network built it right and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► they come in they're like they come to verizon they're like we want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► carry this in verizon says something like okay we'll do it but we want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► our own custom skin on the UI samsung just happens like go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► sounds like you got a chick like it's like they just stick out their hand for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► well I don't be paranoid people dissed them especially in apple world but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► there's something admirable it's like holy valid strategy and it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► people of course samsung like kind of compression down-to-earth which you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► was predictable but don't discount the fact they made billions and billions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► billions of dollars along the way right I you know I had I i agree i do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► there an end to me there is something there's obviously something different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► about samsung compared to all the other Android handset makers in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► you know that it in in a normal market all those very if you if you take our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► let's just take samsung out take samsung out and all of a sudden the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► android market is more or less indistinguishable I mean there's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► know obviously some some more than others but there's really no standout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► manufacturer samsung is a standout manufacturer though and it yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► it there's there's something there's something there and I had so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► literary devices are the devices don't speak for themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► it's something that they do strategically right because there's ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► to compete other than the product Apple has chosen to compete on the product so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► i think people in the actual apple world kind of trigger on that but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► compete the distribution you can compete you a unity through marketing there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► lots of places to compete and Amazon like like that they were available to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► everyone and particularly when the everyone like the classic examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► actually a motorola with the droid phone which but this is what's that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► example of what Samsung did worldwide where verizon was like work it like were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► bleeding customers because we don't have the iphone like we need an alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► and like and some Motorola's best years were like it was like that year when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► droid music vs everywhere because they just needed an alternative and Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► filled that role all over the world right before we leave the topic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► iphone let's talk about the s strategy and I don't want to put words in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► mouth but I think you're questioning whether the s strategy can continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► which is that it to put another way the tick-tock strategy of here's a new form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► factor the iphone let's just call it the iphone 7 and a year later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► here's the same form factor but with a whole bunch of new stuff inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► iphone 7s then the iphone 8 than the iphone 8's than the iphone nine iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► 9s and that's put aside whether you do or whether any of us think that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► going to keep numbering the iphones but you know this whole one year is a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► form factor the next year is the same form factor with an s you do question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► whether they should continue with that correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► absolutely you know absolutely and I think one of the challenges with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► technology and Generalissimo species we see this with iPads is that at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► point it just gets it's good enough for the majority of people and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► whatever employed the success is a big jump over the over the six in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► respects but it's a big jump that doesn't really make a big difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► the way people use their phones day today at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► the majority of people and but something that's so powerful with the iphone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► has made it such an iconic devices made it such a profitable device and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► u.s. to a degree but particularly in places like China is the status of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► like it is the bit we talked about the beginning it's the best phone in and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► means something that you carry it and there is no way this is why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► they've they've introduced the new colors on the S models because that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► show you have the newest model but I think they'd like if they want to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► growth in we should talk about China because i think that that's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► uh I question whether you can stick with the same form factor for two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► because the thing about the phone is a personal device you carry with you pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► it out we sit on the cafe put on the table like it it is like a car in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► respect where it matters like what car you get out of and I question how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► they can stick with this strategy where you don't know if you're using last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► year's for this year's phone and I sounds super shallow but it's a reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► i I don't I don't necessarily question that going forward in terms of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► Apple goes in the future but I want to take a moment just to point out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► suspect a lot of people listening might succumb to this fallacious thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► because I've definitely seen it on Twitter and commentary on you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► I phone you know what Apple it needs needs to ought to do with the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► going forward and I've noticed it for years is that people who are the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► more closely attuned you are 22 this if you're the less less casual you are of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► an iphone user if you're you know an obsessive and you know quite frankly if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► you're listening to this podcast you're probably rail pretty devastating and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► tech gadget journalism racket in general has long I mean forever right from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► 3gs the 4s 5s has always under appreciated the success of those s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► models and and there's I think a conventional wisdom that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► people are only eight people that the general public the world is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► interested in the new form factors and that they see because the s-1 look the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► they're not as interested in them and that's not true at all because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► the 6s is the first iphone that hasn't outsold its predecessor the 4s outsold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► the for the 3gs outsold the 3g and the 5s outsold the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► I have no idea why I went in that order for 35 but that's what it up until now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► no and no s model has failed to outsell its predecessor and like i said at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► up until the 4s the 4s outsold all previous iphones combined so now part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► that as we've just said you know 10 15 minutes ago was about the worldwide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► expansion to more countries and carriers but it's really just the obsessives who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► say im bored by the form factor but now that we are III but I do agree to though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► that it's it's so old I mean we're almost you know next year is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► the 10-year anniversary of anywhere where a decade into the iPhone era it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► amazing that the world has changed you know it's there's no way you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► was true you know in the early years is not going to be true going forward it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► you know it like everything in technology it's you know if there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► way to expect a what happened before to continue happening so I don't know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5814">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► that weeds what that leads to i mean the the big engine for China or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► biggest rivals gameplay the big engine for apple has been has been china and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► that's been the promise that is this massive market that we're growing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► gonna be awesome and I'm exceptionally worried about China now and and for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► few reasons so first off apple was up in china in the first quarter but people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► forget and I actually forgot originally in october or in 2014 f-16 launched the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► Chinese government actually held up the approval of the iphone 6 and even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► Apple intended to watch in September with everyone else they didn't watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► teen so on a year-over-year comparison you are comparing two and a half months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► versus three months and had you done a straight-up comparison actually in q1 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► would've been down in China 12 in q2 it was massively down in china in greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► china and and Tim Cook try to take care of a 0 in greater in China itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► only down seven percent or eleven percent or whatever it was it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► drop was in Hong Kong the problem with that is a lot of those hong kong cells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► were great market imports into China and as availability increased in China it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► wasn't its natural at the hong kong market would decrease and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► a red herring because I i suspect the vast majority of the Hong Kong which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► just demolished was people who used to buy in Hong Kong and smuggle into China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5905">TS</a>]
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01:38:35 ◼ ► widely available and so I think you do have looked at as a whole and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► down like twenty-seven percent or something like a huge amount and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► really really concerning because this is supposed to be the the the engine up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5923">TS</a>]
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01:39:12 ◼ ► materializing and you say all China's macroeconomic environment is challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► it is it is a problem but if you're in a green field environment where your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► have so many new people to sell to the macro economics don't affect you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5963">TS</a>]
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01:39:33 ◼ ► so many people to sell iphones to it didn't slow the company hardly at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5973">TS</a>]
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01:39:41 ◼ ► were in such a period of growth that they their growth exceeded the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► positive aspects of their ability to grow exceeded the negative aspects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► the Great Recession it was the way that you can say they weren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/5991">TS</a>]
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01:40:04 ◼ ► market is the more you're going to be effective in macroeconomic conditions if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6004">TS</a>]
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01:40:26 ◼ ► other time but the degree to which apple for the last two quarters has focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► macroeconomic conditions its kind of striking how it's far exceeded any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► tech companies like they're really concerned about the world economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6036">TS</a>]
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01:40:57 ◼ ► might compare to his shipping Adams not bits and that therefore they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► more you know the more affected by the currency exchange rates you know . well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6063">TS</a>]
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01:41:26 ◼ ► actually thought you were going to talk about China because a reason why apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► been so successful in China is because they're shipping Adams not bits because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6089">TS</a>]
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01:41:41 ◼ ► software has made them like to a massive degree more successful than any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► company in china and frankly I karlik on getting out of stock last weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► playing china i thought it was totally reasonable to be honest like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6111">TS</a>]
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01:42:00 ◼ ► a worrisome sign and like it's very like apples China prospects irregardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► saturate the market which is which is which is something that can be having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► template talk about the upper middle class in China the upper middle class in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► China as its defined in this mystery party sites which actually said first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► inspector I'd like to thank you got from that but i don't know but the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► middle class is defined by an income of 27,000 264 sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► sixteen thousand dollars to 35 thousand dollars u.s. dollars and that's not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► much money like it in purchasing power parity it's much more because stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► China cheaper but I phones are cheaper in China like they're actually more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► expensive each other in the u.s. like you have to wonder like it i I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► concerned about this narrative in China like how big actually is the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► market in China and if and again it just goes back into this like one Apple seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► don't want the iphone to there's evidence that upgrade rates are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► extending particularly the iphone pushes into the marginal customer that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► geek and update upgrade every year but then three then three they're not a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► carriers and then for the in China like maybe it's not nearly as big as we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► thought it was like it there's there's genuine reason to be concerned in again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► no was replaced with android it's gonna be super successful but where's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► growth going to come from and if the growth not going to be there then we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► almost back at the services discussion if that makes sense like everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► well and the other thing Tim Cook mention and again this is maybe a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► worrisome is that Tim Cook spoke optimistically about growth in india and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► sort of comparing it to China and I like to i thought was a really good piece by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► rupesh Shander hope i'm pronouncing right who lives in india and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6232">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► longtime daring fireball reader and his has written me many times over the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6240">TS</a>]
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01:44:08 ◼ ► summarized by his footnote in his post which is i'll just read it entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► according to Pew Research less than 2% of Indians earn more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► than twenty dollars a day or which is about seven thousand dollars a year as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► of $MONTH 2011 and that's an increase of about 0.5% over 10 years in China the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► number of people who earn more than twenty dollars a day increased by 5% in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► the same . so China's it there's a you know the similarity between india and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► china is that there's a billion-plus people in a lot of a lot of people a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► of people and so even if relatively small number of people earn i can buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► iphone amounts of money a small percentage of a billion people is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6293">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► awful lot of potential iphone buyers but that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► India's economy is not doing as well as China's in terms of raising the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► of people who earn you know seven seven thousand dollars more a year and the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► if you only had seven thousand dollars a year buying an iphone is it you know its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► enormous right because it's you know iphone is you know even if you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► $400 did he did he cited an observation that in his article on it was grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► for like iphone in China are very different in two respects one is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► china is just much richer than India like it's it's eight or nine times on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► gdp basis like per person per capita basis richer one but then to any quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► in China is much greater than any quality in india and the implication of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► high inequality with a ton of people is that there's a lot of rich people right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► and so China has this huge number of people that are like living on Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► standards and incomes and an India and you like arguably to its credit i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► it is if the velocity ology goes into this but they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► it's a relatively equal country so even the rich people in India one there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► that many of them into their not that rich relatively speaking so so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► market like even though it's a billion people the people who can afford an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► iphone very structurally much smaller much smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► that is in China yeah it's so anybody looking for China style explosion in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► India I don't think it's gonna happen and Apple added setback after results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► where they'd been petitioning the government in India to allow them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► sell refurbished iphones and that got rejected which is weird the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► of not being allowed to celery furbished phones is weird but it's it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► some kind of political issue in India but that was the that was a big path for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6416">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► potential sales for apple in India because it would allow them to sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► iphones at prices that Indians could more likely afford without being I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► know what Apple is doing its it yet . well it's just sort of like the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► you can you know like what what is like BMW strategy for reaching people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► can't afford a new BMW it's this certified BMW you know certified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► pre-owned they don't call them use their not used cars that are pre-owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► certified pre-owned BMW and all the premium car makers have these certified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► pre-owned things and that's the way that that premium car companies like BMW and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► mercedes porsche whoever you want to you know talk about they have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► certified pre-owned sales things it's exactly what apples strategy is with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► iphone and yet what it's like to orders of magnitude difference in price between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► say a new Mercedes and a new iphone but it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► Apple's brand is exactly the same their premium phone maker and the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► they expand to the lower price point is with refurbished models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► well I also thought i'm confused about Apple's doing India because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► they did something really machine india which they haven't done any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► country which is they allowed for massive discounts of their phones no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► success and the six were hugely discounted india and you could get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► for you could get the success for something like five hundred dollars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► india which is massively less than in the US and and so when the when the SC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► launch I actually thought it was targeted india and I presumed that evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► Washington and watching you for like five hundred dollars like but more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► I presumed in a matter of weeks or months it would be discounted like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► hundred dollars and I I thought they were gonna make a big push india with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► the SC and it what they actually did was they cut off the discounts for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► successful when compete with the SG&A racerback up like a hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6537">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► right late because they felt was suppressing SE cells and a like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► I don't know what I don't know what they're doing to like I feel silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► because like I presume there discounting was a strategy or extend but three if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► that is their strategy where their entry-level phone is going to be super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► expensive in India the SE like it's not a dollar it's not going to be trying at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► where's where our new customers going to come from I don't know before we leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► with this idea that the Apple might need to abandon the a strategy I that I see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► few problems with that in one of them is that and I haven't done and I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► have maybe but anecdotally and I could be just as wrong just as wrong as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► people who I know are wrong that the S models generate less consumer interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► are having the past generated less consumer interest than the new model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► ones but i think that the new ones tend to be supply constrained when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► new in ways that the s-model ones aren't for the very obvious reason that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► is good at making like for example last year the six of iphone 6 with supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► constrained when it first came out and that was one of the reasons that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► january-march quarter did so well was it you know one of the reasons was that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► was delayed in China and then it was available in China and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► reasons simple reasons that q2 last year was so good for the iphone 6 was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► there were people who wanted to buy in q1 and had a weight and that to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► one of the very obvious reasons that Apple goes with this strategy is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► operationally it's a huge advantage because there they get very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► efficient and good at making this form factor and all they have to do is put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► like a new touch ID sensor which is very different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► making an entirely new aluminum case and it entirely new screen size and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► like that so I just wonder I don't know that it's even feasible for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► make a new form factor every year I I just don't think I think that's too too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► much too fast i don't think that i think it actually takes two years for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► to get you know to get in place to make a new form factor it's a fair point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► i guess the counter to that would be is that when they did that with the 3g with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► 3 3g 3gs and four for us the volumes were so much less like it is a it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► very real factor where the more you can spread out the fixed cost of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► tooling in your factory over a number of phones like the better margin you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► what's called leverage and there certainly is an aspect to that but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► this point they're selling every year even in a down here they're selling so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► many more 60s there was something more successes they sold fours and forces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► combined or certainly 3g 3gs combined I think they have the scale at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► that they could they could justify the investment in tooling and and setting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► lines even if it was only over 1 year but it is a very it it's a fair question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► that I think you're exactly right its work to apple benefits i mean certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► change the phone so I'm actually very curious to know how much benefit they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► get because the success is a different phone the sexy it is i'm curious how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► much benefit they do get your by year like do they really gonna reuse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► much to link they use different aluminum those sort of stuff are if they do get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► lot of benefit than the question is probably closer than I think about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► is a cost component to it as well uh but I don't know it just what if they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► and there's another factor which is that even if they could manufacturing wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► literally just snap their fingers and jony ive says Heat team says here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► this year's iphone looks like if they could just snap their fingers and within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► a day have the supply chain turning them out in the quantity that they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► meet demand even if there was that magical i don't know that i really doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► that Apple's dinner that Jony Ive's team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► would come up with a new design every year that was that was noticeably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► different because now there isn't enough getting into it well they could but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► their their philosophy though they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► ethos is that they don't they they're complete the idea of changing making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:27 ◼ ► something look new just to have something that looks new is antithetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6807">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► to their philosophy which is that they are only going to make something look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► new if they are convinced that it's better and if not then they won't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► I will tell you I could go back to the size i have it sitting here though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► but this iphone 5 i'm five a ceremony my hand is is a vastly more beautiful phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► and my sixth i well I find that you know in terms of you know things I'm worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► about with apple in the long run it's that you know the fact that I've i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► prefer the guy I've been doing that I do it every time I keep it I keep my SE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► review unit here I don't use it day to day anymore but I I much prefer the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► I just sit here and worry stone in my in my hands over and over again I find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► I it's it's it's all like 25 to me the 5 and 5s where the pinnacle of because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► the four was brilliant it was so out of left field but the five like perfected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► the four right like it's it really is like the perfect the perfect form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► yeah i find that the four was but you know well the fact that the back could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► crack was a write that on the shuttle deficiency but in fact that you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► tell in your hand which side was which was sort of an inefficiency as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► find it worrisome that Apple clearly in it at least jony ive's team thinks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► the six success form factor is superior to the 55 sse and size aside i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► would prefer i think a 4.7 inch phone that was had the flat sides you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6895">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► and sharp I think it's everybody better it because i think what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► concerned about was like the round I think the Apple was so worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► making a big phone that I think the six like they did a lot of affordances in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► the 64 larger phone like having the rounded edges and stuff like that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► and now that people are more comfortable with it i think they'll be a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► more exploratory with the seven anything to is actually the this suppose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► supply chain rumors which credit supply chain the supply chain nailed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► success being being low like that it was widespread in taiwan for sure it got on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► the Western media as well that the apples tampa in 40 years a factoid John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► i just i just posted this today cause I didn't calculations I sosoni in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► earnings and they actually warning wait wait wait in April where they said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► their devices division where they make the they make the the the camera sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► was going to have a big miss and it was a real surprise that's been a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► strength for sony for the last couple years and cost only by the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► company's doing really really well and I couldn't be more pleased it's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► think for us children of the eighties like it's the company that will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► hold a special place in our hearts 0 divided their devices had a big loss and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► they had to do a write down and the write-down was of 560 million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► with the sensors that basically did David cell and there was speculation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► that was a customer what happened what went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► it turns out if you go to the to the estimates of the success costs which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► obviously who knows if they're true or not but the estimate for the camera on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► the successes is 2250 twenty dollars and fifty cents that may or may not include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► wetlands assembly but if you presume that's the sensor that is that sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► that cost twenty dollars fifty cents if you take 550 million / 2015 contracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► 125 million sensors that Sony apparently made and one of their customers ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7015">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► declining to exception of it turns out 25 million is about what most analysts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► think Apple overall over forecasted the iphone success huh with uh which is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► interesting that a few levels one like it with i already had in my head in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► in not on my excel spreadsheet that Apple had lowered their forecast by 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► million and it actually matches almost perfectly to it goes to show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► leverage and power apple still has that Sony had to eat it even though apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► the one that screwed up our buddy out there is after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► I that was that was pretty interesting this break you know what you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► no we're not gonna pay for that we're actually not going to pay for that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► that is interesting where did you post that I didn't cnni I thought I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► adjusted today you might not see that was enlightening today's update i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:57 ◼ ► thought but I really thought before we started recording that I had caught up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7077">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► Iran as i call it was the internet is a section about Nintendo vs sony so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► might go out i skipped it is contended apart i did see it but then I skipped it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► because i didn't know i was just looking at the very end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► i I don't I yeah it's been since it's interesting i enjoy the fixed typo to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► this is this is why i don't think i could do like I don't think I gotta do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► it's awful it's awful yeah because once it's out its out so there's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► balance to fix it or not and so i did about Tesla and I said that they had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► cash outflow operation 59 60 billion or 5 and 25 billion and fire 25 billion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► the market cap of Apple approximately of course it's not billion it's million and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► in the next sentence i added up the stuff it was clearly i met million one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► of this but i will it it's one of the great flaws in the English language that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► begin its million billion then even trillion and whatever go on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► especially in terms of what numbers we actually use in terms of talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7136">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► money knowing and billion are the only ones that really matter it's very you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► know this right few discussion all into trillions but they're all weather like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► Troy petroleum is two different letters right is so it's it's like significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► different yeah but they should be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► it is it's it's helpful improper and I think actually helps you understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► different that a thousand from a million is because the word sounds so different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► and a hundred sounds so different from a thousand even though it's only a 10-fold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► difference it's only a 10 full difference from a hundred to a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► thousand to a million is a thousandfold difference and it sounds totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► different but a million to a billion is a thousandfold difference and it sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► so similar and our brains just so many people's brains just naturally file them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► together and I totally understand the difference but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► in writing it is the easiest and a anybody who writes la that mistake one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:57 ◼ ► sure it's a so the worst with an email is because it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7197">TS</a>]
01:59:57 ◼ ► sure it's a so the worst with an email is because it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7197">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► they're right and so I was just gonna leave i saw it actually right away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► like crap but it was gonna leave it but i got like double-digit like tweets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► emails you have something like if you actually think about it like obviously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► meant million but I got more than usual like our digital million or billion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► liked it so I had to issue the the follow-up email thing fixing this type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► of which i hate doing because like to me a brilliant powerful aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► destruction model is i insert myself into a place that people always look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► with your email box and I take that very seriously right and so to send a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► email i really hate doing but you know if I'm getting so many responses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► what did you mean I feel like I have to correct it in like oh yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► it depresses me so before we move on to the final segment of the show but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► is to hit the rumor mills the rumor mill though is that the iphone 7 or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► they're going to call it this fall the new iphone this fall is going to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7257">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► very similar to the it seems as though the acid cycle is coming to an end but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► it seems as though the way it's coming to an end is not by coming up with new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► form factors every year but by extending existing form factors for additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► years so first example proof of it we have is the iphone SE which is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► time that the same form factor has been used three times and it the rumor mill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► is very strong that the iphone that this year's iphone i don't know I I a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► i am really starting to think they're not going to call the iphone 7 just on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► gut level so I don't want to call it that but for lack of a better term the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► iphone 7 is going to be in large part in this physically indistinguishable from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:39 ◼ ► the iphone 6 and 6s accept that but that's an alliance remove that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7299">TS</a>]
02:01:44 ◼ ► bummer that's a bummer i I'm with i'm not a huge fan I'm was it wasn't go the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7304">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► other direction the other rumor is that the iphone the the 2018 iphone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:57 ◼ ► would theoretically with the 7s is going to be not only a 17-3 2017 . this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7317">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► this year you're right choice you're right choice everything you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► fiscal year twenty eighteen is then alright infuse examples rights in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► October but that phone is also going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/7330">TS</a>]
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02:14:22 ◼ ► not just not well designed and that it will be coming again like last year at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:26 ◼ ► WWDC which i'm sure all the desert throw about I I don't know how much is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8066">TS</a>]
02:14:34 ◼ ► WWDC keynote even about developers anything now I know I know it was you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8074">TS</a>]
02:14:39 ◼ ► the watermelon is right there i had to take a swing and hit right i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8079">TS</a>]
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02:14:51 ◼ ► a public event now it's it's just like any other application note right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8091">TS</a>]
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02:15:01 ◼ ► keynote audit necessarily needs to be developer related even tangentially is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8101">TS</a>]
02:15:07 ◼ ► that it's followed by in the afternoon there with the Apple calls the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8107">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► the union which in in plain english is the technical keynote write WC every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► single year has two keynote morning keynote which is the one that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► in the general everybody knows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:25 ◼ ► and then there's a lunch break and then you come back in and there's a technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8125">TS</a>]
02:15:30 ◼ ► keynote and the technical keynote the state of the union could not possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8130">TS</a>]
02:15:34 ◼ ► more nerdy I mean it's talk about frameworks it is you know the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8134">TS</a>]
02:15:38 ◼ ► code me show you coding on screen right i show you source code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8138">TS</a>]
02:15:41 ◼ ► I mean it couldn't be more so if that's what you want your like I'm a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8141">TS</a>]
02:15:44 ◼ ► and paid 1600 other one took a little keynote you're gonna get it anyway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8144">TS</a>]
02:15:48 ◼ ► know so that I say you know it you know if you don't and if you don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8148">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► non-technical keynote sleep in and skip the morning keynote I don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:57 ◼ ► sympathy for that argument definitely go to the bathroom in the women's bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8157">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► right hold though what are you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:06 ◼ ► no it wasn't the women's bathroom you're you're totally you're confused all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8166">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► right down in North Carolina right north carolinian life I would not do it given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► that you're conflating it with last year you and I sat in the WWDC keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:20 ◼ ► together and we both we got in early because they they used to in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8180">TS</a>]
02:16:24 ◼ ► days only let that press in like five minutes before the keynote started I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8184">TS</a>]
02:16:28 ◼ ► they let us in early and we had plenty of time but we both thought maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8188">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► should maybe we should take a bathroom break before this and it was good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:37 ◼ ► we did because the goddamn keynote went on so long and you go out now this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8197">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► be all different this year because it's going to be at the bill graham civic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► auditorium instead of the upstairs top floor moscone but top floor moscone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► men's room line was i I mean seriously no exaggeration 50 60 75 people out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:55 ◼ ► door in the mail and ridiculous and of course there's nowhere to record the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8215">TS</a>]
02:16:59 ◼ ► women's the yeah exactly there's never align in the women's bathroom we did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8219">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► go into women's bathroom that what we did is we took the elevator down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:06 ◼ ► first floor and went to the first floor men's room which had no one where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8226">TS</a>]
02:17:11 ◼ ► yeah and then we write we came back up to the to the third floor and we saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8231">TS</a>]
02:17:17 ◼ ► line and I was just going to go back and we take my seat but you acted like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8237">TS</a>]
02:17:21 ◼ ► Good Samaritan and started trying to tell people in the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8241">TS</a>]
02:17:25 ◼ ► hey you know you can go downstairs if you come downstairs they don't listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8245">TS</a>]
02:17:29 ◼ ► me you know buddy list no enlisted that's why I didn't bother it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8249">TS</a>]
02:17:32 ◼ ► doesn't doesn't pay to be a good Samaritan been doesn't pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8252">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► this is what happens with see I still have this small number of Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:40 ◼ ► followers i don't have superpowers quite that you do is I i still have empathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8260">TS</a>]
02:17:43 ◼ ► for my fellow man i can't believe this i can't believe that you literally meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8263">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► literally everything for my fellow man i can't believe that you misremembered it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:50 ◼ ► is a sneaking into the women's bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8270">TS</a>]
02:17:52 ◼ ► i I don't know where that it's totally drill the women's bathroom definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8272">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► had no light I mean oh yes that's the commentary and the frog was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8277">TS</a>]
02:18:00 ◼ ► technology I don't know why though I remembered that was going to the pits it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8280">TS</a>]
02:18:05 ◼ ► does occur to me though that we will I don't know what that you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8285">TS</a>]
02:18:08 ◼ ► just that's a minor hiccup in the bill graham civic auditorium plan where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8288">TS</a>]
02:18:12 ◼ ► won't i don't i don't think there will be such a thing as well fortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:16 ◼ ► walked you if you walk there you go to the Tenderloin first you can just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8296">TS</a>]
02:18:19 ◼ ► the bathroom on the street before you get the pic i didn't know how to phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8299">TS</a>]
02:18:26 ◼ ► that I wrote when i wrote that that's interesting because it's it's a bit of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8306">TS</a>]
02:18:31 ◼ ► pondering fire by rote it's a bit of a hike from the moscone area hotels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8311">TS</a>]
02:18:37 ◼ ► moscone is surrounded by by hotels to the bill graham civic auditorium and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8317">TS</a>]
02:18:42 ◼ ► somebody a few people wrote to me and they like you know either cited google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8322">TS</a>]
02:18:46 ◼ ► maps for Apple maps in there like it's you know it's like a mile and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8326">TS</a>]
02:18:49 ◼ ► like you you know do I you seriously so lazy that you that you think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8329">TS</a>]
02:18:53 ◼ ► hike and really what I meant by a bit of I is that it's it's not so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8333">TS</a>]
02:19:01 ◼ ► hey it's definitely unpleasant and be it it's questionably unsafe to walk there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8341">TS</a>]
02:19:08 ◼ ► is little better to be fair out by the IE in it is walking the morning argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8348">TS</a>]
02:19:13 ◼ ► every one that's gonna bother you sleep right but the idea is probably better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8353">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► just just just take a taxi arrived in America or do you do the mood community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:20 ◼ ► goes right down Market Street yeah anyway the well but dad but how does how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8360">TS</a>]
02:19:24 ◼ ► does the muni economy thousands of thousands of people you know I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8364">TS</a>]
02:19:28 ◼ ► have that tiny in and you know i mean in like uber and stuff like that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8368">TS</a>]
02:19:32 ◼ ► it it's if lots of other people's out that many that's one right i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8372">TS</a>]
02:19:37 ◼ ► i don't i think it'll be alright but anyway Bloomberg says Apple music big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8377">TS</a>]
02:19:44 ◼ ► an acknowledgement and whether i'm not that they're going to acknowledge it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8384">TS</a>]
02:19:47 ◼ ► the revamp is an acknowledgement that it was that people were confused by what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8387">TS</a>]
02:19:50 ◼ ► they had last year and they're going to announce it at WC again so i made one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8390">TS</a>]
02:19:56 ◼ ► thing you talked about is you felt like the best thing would be to break apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8396">TS</a>]
02:20:00 ◼ ► Apple music from itunes and it like from a product design perspective i can one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8400">TS</a>]
02:20:06 ◼ ► person agrees you but one thing that's interesting is as become more apparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8406">TS</a>]
02:20:11 ◼ ► over the last year is that Apple's integration of itunes apple music is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8411">TS</a>]
02:20:16 ◼ ► arguably a strength in some scenarios like for example when you have like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8416">TS</a>]
02:20:21 ◼ ► the stars now are adopting this windowing strategy where first make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8421">TS</a>]
02:20:25 ◼ ► their stuff available for purchase so they're in a super-smart right lee Fidel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8425">TS</a>]
02:20:31 ◼ ► makes her a CD available for only for personal for streaming all her best fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8431">TS</a>]
02:20:36 ◼ ► give her ten dollars or fifteen dollars or whatever it is Beyonce's album was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8436">TS</a>]
02:20:40 ◼ ► $18 and then a year or two later they open up to streaming and get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8440">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► marginal fans that want to pay for it so it's super smart for them and only Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:51 ◼ ► has a solution where those are connected like you have one app that has your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8451">TS</a>]
02:20:57 ◼ ► purchase Adele tracks and you're streaming other tracks where as if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8457">TS</a>]
02:21:02 ◼ ► were separate apps you would have to preemptively choose the right apt to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8462">TS</a>]
02:21:07 ◼ ► your music that's a fantastic . and I'm probably wrong and you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8467">TS</a>]
02:21:12 ◼ ► the that the right way to do it is to break it into a separate app but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8472">TS</a>]
02:21:16 ◼ ► whatever they come up with has to have that level of clarity between what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8476">TS</a>]
02:21:23 ◼ ► yours and what is streaming and just think about Jim Dalrymple's complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8483">TS</a>]
02:21:29 ◼ ► throughout the year of the way that his library got screwed up you know like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8489">TS</a>]
02:21:35 ◼ ► it that doesn't happen if Apple music is a standalone app you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8495">TS</a>]
02:21:41 ◼ ► oh I'll tell you what the problem is with Apple music I think it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8501">TS</a>]
02:21:43 ◼ ► pretty straightforward if you open Apple music there's five tabs on the bottom i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8503">TS</a>]
02:21:47 ◼ ► read from left to right number one for you number two new number three radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8507">TS</a>]
02:21:51 ◼ ► number for kinect number 5 my music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8511">TS</a>]
02:21:53 ◼ ► the reality is i spend ninety percent of my time in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8513">TS</a>]
02:21:56 ◼ ► music and that's smushed into one tab and that includes not just my music that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8516">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► i bought in itunes but also like Apple music if I want to search for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:05 ◼ ► about music I have to go to my music and search like they've broken out these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8525">TS</a>]
02:22:09 ◼ ► four tabs that are that are just don't use and I suspect most people don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8529">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► and I think that's where the mistake came in like they need to like at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:21 ◼ ► end of the day people what would make even know what makes music such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8541">TS</a>]
02:22:25 ◼ ► business and what and what reason my Jobs was so focused on owning the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8545">TS</a>]
02:22:30 ◼ ► is that people tend to this one was the same stuff again and again right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8550">TS</a>]
02:22:35 ◼ ► Apple music / index on this discovering new music like I don't like 40 you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8555">TS</a>]
02:22:41 ◼ ► new yr those different things like and then connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8561">TS</a>]
02:22:44 ◼ ► I mean I'm sorry eat apple i will if Apple ever births successful social sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8564">TS</a>]
02:22:53 ◼ ► um I will eat a little hat like that needs to go that route like radio maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8573">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► I should be different app I don't know for you and you should be combined and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► if you break out like my music that I've collected either i bought in itunes or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:08 ◼ ► saved it from the apple music from music to be in my collection and then you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8588">TS</a>]
02:23:12 ◼ ► a separate search tab like where's the Search tab should be his own tab i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8592">TS</a>]
02:23:15 ◼ ► actually think that there is a solution to make this appt significantly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8595">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► manageable I my idea for a standalone Apple music app which again I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► it's not like I've said and design the whole thing but when people object to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:31 ◼ ► but I ok i just want one place to listen to whatever I've got my idea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8611">TS</a>]
02:23:36 ◼ ► predicated on the idea that in the way that other apps have always had apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8616">TS</a>]
02:23:40 ◼ ► access to your music library like when you're in iMovie you can important song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8620">TS</a>]
02:23:45 ◼ ► from your music right that this Apple music app would have like let's say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8625">TS</a>]
02:23:51 ◼ ► there's a band that or an album like a new Adele album that's not in Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8631">TS</a>]
02:23:55 ◼ ► music streaming yet if you have it in your personal music collection then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8635">TS</a>]
02:23:59 ◼ ► could still play it from there it would just magically you know it would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8639">TS</a>]
02:24:03 ◼ ► would appear there with some sort of visual indication that it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8643">TS</a>]
02:24:08 ◼ ► not arguing against it i'm just saying that the visual design it should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8648">TS</a>]
02:24:11 ◼ ► treat basically the way i would propose it would be that it would treat any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8651">TS</a>]
02:24:17 ◼ ► track you have in your personal library whether it's like not available like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8657">TS</a>]
02:24:21 ◼ ► new Adele album or whether it's like Prince like an artist who just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8661">TS</a>]
02:24:26 ◼ ► sell streaming rights to Apple music or whether it is something like a live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8666">TS</a>]
02:24:31 ◼ ► recording of an album that you know like passed around by fans like Marcos band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8671">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► Phish you know but if it's in your personal library i.e it would appear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:45 ◼ ► Apple music in the same way that you're that you're music appears and I I movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8685">TS</a>]
02:24:49 ◼ ► and whatever else so I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8689">TS</a>]
02:24:53 ◼ ► you'd have to go to a different app to listen to this stuff in her stuff I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8693">TS</a>]
02:24:56 ◼ ► just saying like I think it you're arguing that it just shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8696">TS</a>]
02:24:58 ◼ ► segregated so much down at the bottom and in tabs yet what I mean the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8698">TS</a>]
02:25:04 ◼ ► is like it would know I get the problem Apple music isn't really about my music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8704">TS</a>]
02:25:09 ◼ ► right it's about what Apple like Apple thinks you should have to listen to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8709">TS</a>]
02:25:13 ◼ ► literally I there are five tabs and Apple music and I don't touch four of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8713">TS</a>]
02:25:18 ◼ ► them and the only reason i subscribed music in this is actually the to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8718">TS</a>]
02:25:22 ◼ ► this full circle to the the services thing that I'm still subscribed Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8722">TS</a>]
02:25:26 ◼ ► music and the reason i am is because when i drive my kids around like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8726">TS</a>]
02:25:30 ◼ ► always listen to songs and and i use Siri to like they request songs and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8730">TS</a>]
02:25:36 ◼ ► use Siri to want to watch the song and of course serie doesn't have an API so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8736">TS</a>]
02:25:41 ◼ ► it doesn't support like Spotify ER or other things and it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8741">TS</a>]
02:25:45 ◼ ► interesting because it gets into this tension like what is Apple strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8745">TS</a>]
02:25:49 ◼ ► where they try to make money like in this case Siri is actually forcing me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8749">TS</a>]
02:25:55 ◼ ► give more money to Apple as opposed to Spotify just because it works there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8755">TS</a>]
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02:26:05 ◼ ► don't own any Taylor Swift you just listen to it throughout the music is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8765">TS</a>]
02:26:09 ◼ ► die i think i got 99 i think i actually got 99 win Taylor Swift did her breakup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8769">TS</a>]
02:26:15 ◼ ► with Spotify wrote about the update i was i was really interesting idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8775">TS</a>]
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02:26:27 ◼ ► its kind of an ongoing gag on exponents about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8787">TS</a>]
02:26:30 ◼ ► me and Taylor Swift so I is this a good segue to talk about the Amazon echo that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8790">TS</a>]
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02:26:44 ◼ ► written i think that you know amazon echo and a lot of people have good words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8804">TS</a>]
02:26:49 ◼ ► about amazon that no person for the record with my own against the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8809">TS</a>]
02:26:53 ◼ ► when and the actual launch almost everyone jumped on it and I as far as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8813">TS</a>]
02:26:57 ◼ ► read i was the only person that was enthusiastic about it and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8817">TS</a>]
02:27:01 ◼ ► dumping on it because it was when the phone that i am just written off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8821">TS</a>]
02:27:04 ◼ ► fire phone right which was obvious from day one was wisdom was a mess and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8824">TS</a>]
02:27:10 ◼ ► echo though so there's two things one is that Amazon is such unique company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8830">TS</a>]
02:27:15 ◼ ► that they're built to run experiments and fail or succeed and the foot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8835">TS</a>]
02:27:20 ◼ ► phone failed and the more than my Admiral thing with the phone is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8840">TS</a>]
02:27:24 ◼ ► though bezel was clearly won it probably should have watched the first place was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8844">TS</a>]
02:27:27 ◼ ► obviously a bad idea but you should have been identified or have been identified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8847">TS</a>]
02:27:31 ◼ ► internally as well that it should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8851">TS</a>]
02:27:34 ◼ ► this is like that's the way they the way they ruthlessly killed it was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8854">TS</a>]
02:27:40 ◼ ► impressive right even though is bezel is baby would it failed utterly like heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8860">TS</a>]
02:27:49 ◼ ► late like well again I'm not glorifying way of people it's a tragedy that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8869">TS</a>]
02:27:53 ◼ ► lost their jobs although they were engineers in Silicon Valley i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8873">TS</a>]
02:27:56 ◼ ► they taste survived but like they weight off people they shut the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8876">TS</a>]
02:28:00 ◼ ► down it was over like you're always we imbeciles probably realize personally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8880">TS</a>]
02:28:05 ◼ ► got wrapped up in this I made a mistake and in some respects being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8885">TS</a>]
02:28:11 ◼ ► recognize and own your mistake especially when you're someone who's 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8891">TS</a>]
02:28:15 ◼ ► is a wildly as somewhat jeff bezos is super impressive and and and kudos to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8895">TS</a>]
02:28:20 ◼ ► them but the the echo comes out and the echo echo it was so different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8900">TS</a>]
02:28:25 ◼ ► fire phone because the echo was all the echo was a conduit it's a conduit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8905">TS</a>]
02:28:31 ◼ ► amazon services and you could see the connection to buying stuff and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8911">TS</a>]
02:28:35 ◼ ► and leveraging app Amazon's Cloud power power it was totally different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8915">TS</a>]
02:28:40 ◼ ► fire phone was but i think it was kind of dumped on the beginning because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8920">TS</a>]
02:28:44 ◼ ► people were locked into the fireman was you can't actually buy stuff through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8924">TS</a>]
02:28:49 ◼ ► or it can you I guess what you can do is add stuff to your shopping list because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8929">TS</a>]
02:28:53 ◼ ► you can eat i think you can buy stuff now that you wouldn't want it launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8933">TS</a>]
02:28:56 ◼ ► you can only ask your shopping list by believe they've added by stuff now know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8936">TS</a>]
02:29:00 ◼ ► and we were playing with it in and jonas and amy i'm not i'm not certain jokingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8940">TS</a>]
02:29:05 ◼ ► did something like that and then Alexis said she was adding it to John Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8945">TS</a>]
02:29:12 ◼ ► shopping list in a panic they're like no cancel cancel i I'm riding on a lot it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8952">TS</a>]
02:29:19 ◼ ► an interesting device I don't regret the money I spent on it but it's I'm not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8959">TS</a>]
02:29:24 ◼ ► impressed by it as I think you are but maybe I don't have enough of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8964">TS</a>]
02:29:27 ◼ ► add-ons that add new services i mean this is so one of the fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8967">TS</a>]
02:29:32 ◼ ► differences between Alexa and Cirie and and let's just imagine that Apple has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8972">TS</a>]
02:29:41 ◼ ► serie device that's the same as Alexis so we're not comparing phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8981">TS</a>]
02:29:46 ◼ ► tablets to the stand this is because it very be very easy for Apple to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8986">TS</a>]
02:29:50 ◼ ► same thing just make a speaker with a microphone that you can say the I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8990">TS</a>]
02:29:55 ◼ ► gonna say excited it'll trigger people's phones the hay and then the Serie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/8995">TS</a>]
02:30:02 ◼ ► hey theory it's very easy don't screw with people then it's very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9002">TS</a>]
02:30:08 ◼ ► imagine a similar apple product and it would be very different because the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9008">TS</a>]
02:30:12 ◼ ► that Siri works is very different from the way alexa works in terms of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9012">TS</a>]
02:30:20 ◼ ► Alexa is is far more expect far more structure in what you tell i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9020">TS</a>]
02:30:29 ◼ ► see her tell her to do than Cirie does for better and for worse in my opinion I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9029">TS</a>]
02:30:35 ◼ ► think some of it is significantly worse and it's kind of disappointing but your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9035">TS</a>]
02:30:41 ◼ ► argument is that because once you know what you can tell her to do it works way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9041">TS</a>]
02:30:49 ◼ ► yeah i think we talked about like like serious definitely folks like pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9049">TS</a>]
02:30:53 ◼ ► natural language processing where it will figure out what what you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9053">TS</a>]
02:30:56 ◼ ► whereas Alexa is much more like you have to say it the right way to get it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9056">TS</a>]
02:31:00 ◼ ► work and so there's multiple factors beyond here so so one there's a great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9060">TS</a>]
02:31:05 ◼ ► think was business insider there's a great profile of how the like the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9065">TS</a>]
02:31:10 ◼ ► of alexa and how like they were represented pizzo something like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9070">TS</a>]
02:31:14 ◼ ► gonna have to two milliseconds of like latency and he's like no one has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9074">TS</a>]
02:31:19 ◼ ► one and sorry but Alexa is unbelievably fast like in the speed in which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9079">TS</a>]
02:31:26 ◼ ► processes kinda like what you say are so the one that's that's already a plus i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9086">TS</a>]
02:31:32 ◼ ► think over sirree but to it's interesting it's really like it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9092">TS</a>]
02:31:40 ◼ ► eatin including Google i think google is actually still the best thing is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9100">TS</a>]
02:31:43 ◼ ► better than electoral Alexis clothes no voice recognition is get at the level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9103">TS</a>]
02:31:51 ◼ ► where it can interpret everything and I kind of feel I feel this both kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9111">TS</a>]
02:31:57 ◼ ► intellectually and also having used different devices that it's better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9117">TS</a>]
02:32:01 ◼ ► fail predictably than it is to fail unpredictably if that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9121">TS</a>]
02:32:06 ◼ ► yeah I feel like a wax of em I can't think you're right I I you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9126">TS</a>]
02:32:11 ◼ ► right but I feel like that that the only proper solution is is is AI that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9131">TS</a>]
02:32:18 ◼ ► recognizes so accurate that you'd do almost never get errors you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9138">TS</a>]
02:32:24 ◼ ► so it almost doesn't matter which way you start now whether you start on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9144">TS</a>]
02:32:28 ◼ ► side of failing predictably like a lecture or failing unpredictably like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9148">TS</a>]
02:32:32 ◼ ► Siri because ultimately both of them still have there are like 1% solutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9152">TS</a>]
02:32:38 ◼ ► that are ninety-nine percent unfulfilled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9158">TS</a>]
02:32:41 ◼ ► I agree but I it's weird because when I feel like we know whatever wax it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9161">TS</a>]
02:32:45 ◼ ► doesn't understand me I feel like I did it wrong and I i would say ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9165">TS</a>]
02:32:50 ◼ ► percent of time that's a bad thing for technology like technology should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9170">TS</a>]
02:32:53 ◼ ► empathy towards the user and to explain the user is a bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9173">TS</a>]
02:32:58 ◼ ► there's this article spinner on Twitter today about like someone losing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9178">TS</a>]
02:33:02 ◼ ► articles ionno you set it up that way like no that's Apple music fault that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9182">TS</a>]
02:33:06 ◼ ► you should not make a used you should not enable the circumstances user does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9186">TS</a>]
02:33:10 ◼ ► the wrong thing right but in this particular area when Alexa when I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9190">TS</a>]
02:33:16 ◼ ► the wrong words and Alexis doesn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9196">TS</a>]
02:33:18 ◼ ► I i try to figure out the right words like I feel like it it's that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9198">TS</a>]
02:33:22 ◼ ► feel like alexis is really good so I want to make sure I get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9202">TS</a>]
02:33:27 ◼ ► where's with Siri I get frustrated I in part of it is this eerie i feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9207">TS</a>]
02:33:32 ◼ ► series joking stuff in and being jocular is actually brilliantly bad for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9212">TS</a>]
02:33:38 ◼ ► because it it imparts a degree of accuracy and realism that is one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9218">TS</a>]
02:33:49 ◼ ► it's like over-promising and under-delivering for . before and oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9229">TS</a>]
02:33:53 ◼ ► don't get that from when Alexa doesn't understand saying it's like sorry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9233">TS</a>]
02:33:56 ◼ ► don't know what you said but it's very straightforward right and I just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9236">TS</a>]
02:34:01 ◼ ► different approaches and I i think the likes of one is better but she said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9241">TS</a>]
02:34:06 ◼ ► something like I don't understand the question i think you said it right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9246">TS</a>]
02:34:10 ◼ ► like it's like it i didn't make it talk about it it's like I understand your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9250">TS</a>]
02:34:15 ◼ ► words I don't know what there's no III the way that that what she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9255">TS</a>]
02:34:20 ◼ ► I wish I knew exactly what the waist the way that she'll say I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9260">TS</a>]
02:34:25 ◼ ► I i heard from you indicates both that either either she heard you word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9265">TS</a>]
02:34:30 ◼ ► word exactly and doesn't know how to answer that or maybe she didn't hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9270">TS</a>]
02:34:35 ◼ ► correctly but either way she can't answer you and it you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9275">TS</a>]
02:34:38 ◼ ► that's it kind of an interesting way to phrase there I see what you mean and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9278">TS</a>]
02:34:41 ◼ ► have mixed feelings about series Joe clarity I and it does seem a little uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9281">TS</a>]
02:34:46 ◼ ► Napa like because apples actually taken in large part especially on iOS has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9286">TS</a>]
02:34:54 ◼ ► taken the whimsy out of the visual you I you know that that one way of looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9294">TS</a>]
02:34:59 ◼ ► the the the iOS 6 to iOS 7 transition you know you know everybody uses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9299">TS</a>]
02:35:06 ◼ ► word skeuomorphism but one way of looking at it another way of looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9306">TS</a>]
02:35:10 ◼ ► a different world would be that they took a lot of the whimsy out of the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9310">TS</a>]
02:35:13 ◼ ► that you know having wood paneling around game center or a leather you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9313">TS</a>]
02:35:19 ◼ ► rich Corinthian leather around your calendar for you find your friends or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9319">TS</a>]
02:35:24 ◼ ► whatever it was ahead that the Corinthian leather is whimsical and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9324">TS</a>]
02:35:29 ◼ ► they took that out but Siri is chock full of whimsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9329">TS</a>]
02:35:34 ◼ ► yeah it it's weird because Apple has this brand about perfection and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9334">TS</a>]
02:35:41 ◼ ► there is an aspect where like a lot its we it's hard it's really weird to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9341">TS</a>]
02:35:50 ◼ ► that to the extent that Alexa makes it feel like it's my mistake is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9350">TS</a>]
02:35:55 ◼ ► thing because again that goes against my instincts of our product design in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9355">TS</a>]
02:35:58 ◼ ► general and that you should strive to make things obvious for the user but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9358">TS</a>]
02:36:03 ◼ ► think it works to its benefit like and I think it would serve apple the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9363">TS</a>]
02:36:08 ◼ ► brand better when series screws up i blame serie because Cirie has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9368">TS</a>]
02:36:13 ◼ ► over-promised and under-delivered frankly and and so this is just a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9373">TS</a>]
02:36:18 ◼ ► helpful so one Alexis voice recognition is much better than siri-like vastly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9378">TS</a>]
02:36:25 ◼ ► I don't know about faster than Cirie yeah well for early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9385">TS</a>]
02:36:28 ◼ ► well here's my test example for me first so one for me like the most presidents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9388">TS</a>]
02:36:33 ◼ ► erie it to my daughter can trigger waxa without fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9393">TS</a>]
02:36:38 ◼ ► she's eight years old and she can rarely trigger Syria maybe ten percent of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9398">TS</a>]
02:36:43 ◼ ► three my four-year-old son can can command alexa maybe thirty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9403">TS</a>]
02:36:49 ◼ ► the time but he definitely can never ever trigger serie a in a in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9409">TS</a>]
02:36:55 ◼ ► degree to its alexa can handle pour them into a mature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9415">TS</a>]
02:37:01 ◼ ► yeah it's super impressive in my estimation all right maybe it is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9421">TS</a>]
02:37:05 ◼ ► i I don't know I i mod I told you this I i set the thing i've i've gone five days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9425">TS</a>]
02:37:11 ◼ ► and only an election i haven't added any significant number of the third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9431">TS</a>]
02:37:15 ◼ ► editions which we should talk to because i know that this having an api . is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9435">TS</a>]
02:37:19 ◼ ► huge difference and I know it's one of the reasons that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9439">TS</a>]
02:37:23 ◼ ► on the alexa side of the argument but I I i set it up and I me is when this when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9443">TS</a>]
02:37:28 ◼ ► this query failed I immediately liked texted you who to complain like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9448">TS</a>]
02:37:32 ◼ ► my text important for for the echo but I asked alexa went to the Golden State [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9452">TS</a>]
02:37:38 ◼ ► Warriors when's the next Golden State Warriors game and she said I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9458">TS</a>]
02:37:44 ◼ ► and then i said when is the next warriors NBA game or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9464">TS</a>]
02:37:48 ◼ ► i took out the Golden State and maybe like added NBA and then she got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9468">TS</a>]
02:37:51 ◼ ► answer but I can't believe that you know and again i'm not saying that Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9471">TS</a>]
02:37:55 ◼ ► doesn't have the exact same sort of asked the same thing one way and ask it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9475">TS</a>]
02:38:01 ◼ ► a different way we're at a human would undeniably interpret the questions the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9481">TS</a>]
02:38:06 ◼ ► no human being would you know think that was a different question even though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9486">TS</a>]
02:38:10 ◼ ► phrased it differently and it works one way it doesn't the other but to me Alexa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/9490">TS</a>]
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02:50:10 ◼ ► NBA Playoffs to turn out you think what do you think they're going to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10210">TS</a>]
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02:50:22 ◼ ► to have two losses in this series so I don't think we're going to see Steph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10222">TS</a>]
02:50:24 ◼ ► Curry play until the next series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10224">TS</a>]
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02:51:00 ◼ ► George trainer talking about the fact that he actually believes that crease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10260">TS</a>]
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02:52:18 ◼ ► is danny green his shot the three terribly all year and he's been good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10338">TS</a>]
02:52:24 ◼ ► last couple games if he is knocking down that three they're there they're a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10344">TS</a>]
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02:53:05 ◼ ► root for Miami but I mean you gotta realize that everybody else is repeating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10385">TS</a>]
02:53:09 ◼ ► from miami vs the Cavaliers because man that it's playoff game lebron on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10389">TS</a>]
02:53:15 ◼ ► road playing in miami in a playoff game for the eastern especially because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10395">TS</a>]
02:53:20 ◼ ► there's still like there are still questions about lebron's kind of mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10400">TS</a>]
02:53:24 ◼ ► strength right right i mean like he's had two playoff series against Boston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10404">TS</a>]
02:53:29 ◼ ► and against dallas where he kind of melted down mentally and if he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10409">TS</a>]
02:53:34 ◼ ► up against his old teammates and they're getting his head like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10414">TS</a>]
02:53:39 ◼ ► Cleveland's the better team but you can envision a possibility where Miami wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10419">TS</a>]
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02:54:10 ◼ ► makes up for the half step mentally like that have been a great example is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10450">TS</a>]
02:54:15 ◼ ► time Jordin stole the ball from Malone Malone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10455">TS</a>]
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02:54:27 ◼ ► because you don't watch baseball attitude i'll put this in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10467">TS</a>]
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02:54:44 ◼ ► Dodgers were playing the tampa bay rays which is interesting because its inner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10484">TS</a>]
02:54:50 ◼ ► League Baseball in interleague this did you don't play american national lead in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10490">TS</a>]
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02:55:26 ◼ ► and it it's actually physically it should be illegal it's like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10526">TS</a>]
02:55:32 ◼ ► dome isn't high enough so balls get caught up in the rafters all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10532">TS</a>]
02:55:35 ◼ ► and there's all sorts of rules and there's like it different here the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10535">TS</a>]
02:55:39 ◼ ► what I call the field rules are so it couldn't there's like this whole book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10539">TS</a>]
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02:55:51 ◼ ► guy catches it it's an out and if it hits these rafters this this or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10551">TS</a>]
02:55:56 ◼ ► it's a home run and so his brother had alcohol that disappeared it just went up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10556">TS</a>]
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02:56:05 ◼ ► properly because it would have been over the fence in any other stadium but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10565">TS</a>]
02:56:08 ◼ ► just disappeared which is it just all even in their crap field almost never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10568">TS</a>]
02:56:14 ◼ ► happens that the ball just doesn't come down and the next day he wanted to go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10574">TS</a>]
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02:56:22 ◼ ► wasn't allowed to because he was told that they're they're not safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10582">TS</a>]
02:56:25 ◼ ► the field is so janky that they thought that if if he went up there and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10585">TS</a>]
02:56:32 ◼ ► I thought that was a funny story and a nice crossover between baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10592">TS</a>]
02:56:38 ◼ ► alright let's wrap it out of baseball Ben Thompson we make we cross the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyXaxwQ/10598">TS</a>]
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