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151: ‘Option P’, With Special Guest Serenity Caldwell

 

00:00:00   you sound wonderful given the microphone now I gotta know I actually you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:04   probably have the blackjack since the last time we talked I got a two-by-two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4">TS</a>]

00:00:08   yeah exactly i have it's nice i like it and i've only had occasional occurrences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/8">TS</a>]

00:00:14   where it turns me into a Dalek but otherwise it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   my thing is that i took i got the thing set up where is by apparently sound ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/17">TS</a>]

00:00:23   and then I took a picture of all these crazy dials if I ever lose that picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/23">TS</a>]

00:00:28   of screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   just like I need to commit this to memory make Jonas memorize it they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33   no idea what any of this stuff means it's so interesting confusing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/33">TS</a>]

00:00:37   especially that all the extra buttons the in-and-out it's like oh yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/37">TS</a>]

00:00:41   there too many especially if you only have one mic setup and you're not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   the input monitor and it's just going into your computer there's there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/44">TS</a>]

00:00:48   more than you actually need their yeah i think that as I get older I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   rocketing towards demanding next extreme simplicity and everything to use but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/51">TS</a>]

00:00:57   it's like the bike i do enough podcast where it's really is worth it for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00   sound as good as I possibly can and so i gave up on my beloved just plug it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/60">TS</a>]

00:01:06   a USB microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07   yeah which I loved in theory but everybody agrees there since I switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/67">TS</a>]

00:01:12   to this I sound better so yeah the the mixers mixers make everything sangre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/72">TS</a>]

00:01:16   although i did find a lightning USB mic that's not terrible that i've been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   recently on the road so that's my that's my good backup for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/79">TS</a>]

00:01:23   so what do you write alright let's this is considered as part of the show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/83">TS</a>]

00:01:27   like lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/87">TS</a>]

00:01:28   what would what does that mean you mean like podcasting from like an iPad um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/88">TS</a>]

00:01:34   yeah I broadcasting from an ipad is still a pain in the ass but being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/94">TS</a>]

00:01:40   to record your audio on the go is really helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   previous to that I had like a little tiny laughs Mike that you plug into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/103">TS</a>]

00:01:47   headphones of your iPhone Jack and it was you know it was better than talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/107">TS</a>]

00:01:51   on your iPhone but not by much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/111">TS</a>]

00:01:54   and I accidentally drowned my macbook air so my ipad is the only portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/114">TS</a>]

00:01:59   computer i have right now which is kind of terrifying anyway which one did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   drown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   i drowned my medicare no my poor 11-inch macbook air was sitting next to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/123">TS</a>]

00:02:08   macbook pro are at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   my my ipad bro and yeah bad things happened I guess I do have a 15-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:15   macbook pro that's like six years old at this point but i haven't booted on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/135">TS</a>]

00:02:19   like two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   oh man so what you gonna do this is like a bad time to replace the macbook yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/140">TS</a>]

00:02:24   exactly so I'm like well I've got the ipad pro and i was making all this hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:28   about yeah I do most of my work on it which is true i do do a lot of like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/148">TS</a>]

00:02:32   portable work on the ipad now but i was still like oh god now i have no safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/152">TS</a>]

00:02:37   net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/157">TS</a>]

00:02:38   more on that later yes but looks like we'll talk about that later but yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   I but I'm but podcasting like so I tried the usher for a while and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/161">TS</a>]

00:02:49   thing is a beautiful mike that is absolutely horrible because it requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   a very it requires a specific app and it just it will work if you just plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/172">TS</a>]

00:02:57   into the ipad you have to open like the sharrap or GarageBand and anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/177">TS</a>]

00:03:01   just like nope I don't recognize you as a microphone sorry you don't get to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/181">TS</a>]

00:03:05   which is infuriating so I got what's it called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/185">TS</a>]

00:03:11   now I have to find it i picked up the the apogee not the not the apogee one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/191">TS</a>]

00:03:18   the one of its one of the little ones that's like 200 bucks from the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/198">TS</a>]

00:03:23   store on a whim and i love it it's so good it works for everything so I I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/203">TS</a>]

00:03:31   is like one of those things where I don't know maybe I'm just an idiot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   it's whenever I read about people trying to podcast from an ipad I I get very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/214">TS</a>]

00:03:42   confused and so I get in some ways it i guess simpler than podcasting from a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/222">TS</a>]

00:03:47   and that you know all the multitasking involved in the different apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/227">TS</a>]

00:03:51   everything i have installed to do this in some ways is more complicated but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/231">TS</a>]

00:03:54   because the mac can do so many things at the same time and you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   worry about which app is frontmost or whatever and you can run things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/237">TS</a>]

00:04:02   dirty little hacks like call recorder for skype to me it just makes sense it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/242">TS</a>]

00:04:07   like just totally makes sense and when I in and supposedly I i still didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/247">TS</a>]

00:04:11   back and watch the video but i heard that in the event last month when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   Phil shoulder said now you can podcast you know this is great for podcasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/254">TS</a>]

00:04:18   that they they cut to me in the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   oh yeah they can be cut to the whole section of just right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   everybody being like what yeah right yeah I don't know if that app that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/262">TS</a>]

00:04:27   the accessory really makes it easier for podcasters if you have it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/267">TS</a>]

00:04:32   easier to run your powered microphones sure but it doesn't actually fix the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/272">TS</a>]

00:04:36   core podcasting problem on iOS which was what you were just talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/276">TS</a>]

00:04:40   fact that like there is really no support for core audio and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/280">TS</a>]

00:04:44   background app like multi multi threading audio throughout apps so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/284">TS</a>]

00:04:49   if you're going to record you're gonna do a podcast on an iPad you're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:54   locally it's not a huge deal with especially with that power adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57   because then you can basically just plug your mixer into the power adapter if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   it's a USB mixer and then you've got you've got mics up but if you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:05   to do a remote show like if we were trying to do this show right now on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/305">TS</a>]

00:05:09   ipad right what I would have to do is I'd have to have my iPad open with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/309">TS</a>]

00:05:14   either with skype or with voice memos or whatever recording thing and then my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/314">TS</a>]

00:05:21   iphone whatever device I wasn't using to run skype ID have to plug my apogee Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/321">TS</a>]

00:05:28   into and run voice memos from there so it's basically like you have to use two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/328">TS</a>]

00:05:33   devices and of course your natural skype call is going to shout sound like shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/333">TS</a>]

00:05:39   because you're not actually recording through the good or you're not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42   talking through the good mic right you got on a Mac you need two apps so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/342">TS</a>]

00:05:46   for example we use I use almost all the ninety percent of the time i use skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49   for the connection and then and then I use a app called call recorder which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/349">TS</a>]

00:05:54   sort of runs at extension within skype but you could use just about anything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/354">TS</a>]

00:05:59   on any app that we can record audio you can I mean lots of people just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   quicktime you can just open a quicktime player app and say new audio recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/362">TS</a>]

00:06:06   pick the same microphone is the input and so like what you hear you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/366">TS</a>]

00:06:10   I I it's a little inside baseball but for anybody out there like to me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/370">TS</a>]

00:06:16   sounds good to me right now as I'm talking to you as you would if I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/376">TS</a>]

00:06:20   just listening to the show after it's being done editing because I hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/380">TS</a>]

00:06:24   through the same microphone that you're recording whereas so it's two apps 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:28   record one to do the connection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   but if you do haha XD have to use to device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   yeah which is just ridiculously my feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37   Amy it's doable like I didn't last last fall when I was on vacation when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/397">TS</a>]

00:06:43   ipad pro first came out I did a podcast with with my curly and Jason Snelling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/403">TS</a>]

00:06:48   was a guest on upgrade and so I did that way because I literally i only had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:53   ipad my iphone and ipad Mike so there was no other way like I couldn't just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/413">TS</a>]

00:06:57   like I want i'm gonna try and use a computer because there was no computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00   available to me so it's doable if you're in that pinch but it's definitely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/420">TS</a>]

00:07:05   what I would call a first-rate solution it's a podcasting is not what you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:09   ios4 right so what is your Apple to your apple TV remote lost you're not lost him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/429">TS</a>]

00:07:22   it is not lost at the moment thank goodness it is it is sitting on my desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:27   right now next in in its to do need stand you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/447">TS</a>]

00:07:32   I think was it just today that this came out yes oh yeah yeah it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:36   headline is this is serenity article that I more it says wish list someday I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:40   would like to stop losing my Syria remote yes I this came about because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/460">TS</a>]

00:07:47   saw Susie oak suite of macworld story why I can't remember who wrote it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/467">TS</a>]

00:07:54   think it was Jerry define who wrote a story basically being like I've stuck a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/474">TS</a>]

00:07:59   tile to the back of my cereal remote and now i can find it and simultaneously I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/479">TS</a>]

00:08:04   like that's really smart and oh god is this what we've really come to like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/484">TS</a>]

00:08:09   is the only way that I'm going to be able to find my serial remote to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/489">TS</a>]

00:08:14   to stick at a device that's pretty much half the size of the sea remote to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/494">TS</a>]

00:08:18   back of the Syrian remote and do it every year because the tiles only lasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/498">TS</a>]

00:08:23   for months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   yeah the tiles being the was it is a kickstarter project yeah yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/505">TS</a>]

00:08:30   little bluetooth trackers that connects to your iphone so that and then because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/510">TS</a>]

00:08:35   they're the bushes and then they have a tiny speaker embedded so it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/515">TS</a>]

00:08:39   similarly to let to the find iphone button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/519">TS</a>]

00:08:42   the apple watch where you just you press the button and then your your wallet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/522">TS</a>]

00:08:46   your keys or whatever ring i have tiles for my wallet my keys and they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   useful but i don't i wouldn't put it on the the the woman was so thin it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/529">TS</a>]

00:08:54   looks it looks like i'm just stuck a battery pack on my remote for what for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/534">TS</a>]

00:08:58   for the purposes of the teensiest little speaker in the world i love it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/538">TS</a>]

00:09:03   my favorite apple watch features is the ability to pin your iphone I don't lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/543">TS</a>]

00:09:07   my iphone very often or I don't misplace it or forget where it goes but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10   do it'll drive you crazy and beyond my gosh yeah and being able to ping it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/550">TS</a>]

00:09:15   the watch is so much better it's so much more convenient than logging in to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/555">TS</a>]

00:09:19   my iphone to play the sounds so much more convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   yeah it's a great feature and it just sort of makes sense in the look it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/561">TS</a>]

00:09:27   in the same house or same you know if you assume it's all in the same house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   and everything is already hooked up to the same network or whatever one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:34   these things should be able to find the other and they can both make noise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   they both are you know loosely connected at all times so it makes sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/577">TS</a>]

00:09:42   you'd be able to do that so I feel like there's got to be a solution like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   for the remote you should be able to like say like hey apple TV where's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/585">TS</a>]

00:09:49   goddamn remote and then it will be the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/589">TS</a>]

00:09:52   seriously I mean I so I kind of I said this in my article but I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/592">TS</a>]

00:09:56   understand why it wasn't a feature at launch because they I mean they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/596">TS</a>]

00:10:00   rushing to get this thing out the door and the the remote app for the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   wasn't even ready so there was you know if the remote app for the iphone wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/603">TS</a>]

00:10:07   gonna be ready there was physically no button for them to be able to press to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10   be like find iphone and because the because the series speaker the Syria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/610">TS</a>]

00:10:15   microphone is built into the remote not into the apple TV you can't just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/615">TS</a>]

00:10:20   shout to the heavens like you might to an Amazon echo being like where's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23   remote all that would be a cool feature apple just saying but what I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:28   hoping for is like the Syrian remote just connects to the apple TV via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/628">TS</a>]

00:10:33   bluetooth and theoretically Apple could design a next-generation remote without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/633">TS</a>]

00:10:38   having to make us buy an entirely new Apple TV like they could just sign it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/638">TS</a>]

00:10:44   and say this works with this Apple TV and then just insert tiny little speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   that already works via bluetooth so it already has the connection inherent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:51   know to to send a ping to the remote to say yo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/651">TS</a>]

00:10:55   make a sound wherever you are I just don't I don't think there's a speaker in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   the remote right now there's only am i don't think so either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   is that it's never used for anything so it if there is it so hidden that I fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/661">TS</a>]

00:11:05   it couldn't even find it but I'd and again I always file this under look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/665">TS</a>]

00:11:10   know it's a lot easier for us on the outside to tell apple just put another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/670">TS</a>]

00:11:14   two-dollar component into this device in that device and it's very easy to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/674">TS</a>]

00:11:19   you know did too quickly dissipate apple's press charges but i really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/679">TS</a>]

00:11:24   think that for the price that apple charges for apples for the apple TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/684">TS</a>]

00:11:28   for the what the extra aren't the extra modes like 60 bucks together and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/688">TS</a>]

00:11:32   this remote I think it's $79 yes oh look it's the $79 remote you can put I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/692">TS</a>]

00:11:38   sorry Tim could put it you can put a speaker in there that doesn't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:42   high fidelity just last week it just needs to be loud enough to be heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/702">TS</a>]

00:11:46   through sofa cushions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   oh yeah all i need is a is a nice high-pitched like submarine like beep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/708">TS</a>]

00:11:53   like it doesn't even have to be pleasant to the ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56   I just need to be able to find it right and yeah and they could sell that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   thing is like Apple tomorrow could come out with apple TV remote now a speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/719">TS</a>]

00:12:04   and theoretically you could just buy it and pair it to your apple TV like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/724">TS</a>]

00:12:08   what I want them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   I'm like yes don't don't worry about releasing it with your next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13   apple tv2 take time to like a grade that hardware but just to put a speaker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/733">TS</a>]

00:12:18   somehow an asymmetric button arrangement so that you can if you can figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/738">TS</a>]

00:12:23   which way is up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   you know i do you have the remote strap because that's what I eventually and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/744">TS</a>]

00:12:28   don't like the strap because it's always flapping around what i did i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/748">TS</a>]

00:12:32   compete the gaffer's tape and wrapped around the bottom OC with the texture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/752">TS</a>]

00:12:37   yeah and it goes on the side the texture because it's a piece of tape that wraps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/757">TS</a>]

00:12:41   around all the way around so I can feel it from the sides and it's a lot easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/761">TS</a>]

00:12:46   yeah and it doesn't completely degrade the look of it because black Africa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/766">TS</a>]

00:12:50   chapel right ones and yeah I like that that's smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/770">TS</a>]

00:12:53   um yeah but I still feel like it ridiculous that i've i've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/773">TS</a>]

00:12:58   jury-rig design solution to an eighty dollar remote control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/778">TS</a>]

00:13:02   well yeah exactly the worst part is i'm picking i just picked up my remote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/782">TS</a>]

00:13:06   my remotes upside down right now this is the remote that doesn't have the strap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   on it and with the like all of the icons are so minimalist that even holding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/789">TS</a>]

00:13:15   upside down the only way that you know that you're holding it upside down is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/795">TS</a>]

00:13:19   that menu the only the only word on the other things upside-down and even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:24   you're first looking at it the you and menu kind of looks like an end and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/804">TS</a>]

00:13:29   the end is still right side up so you read like two letters in before your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/809">TS</a>]

00:13:33   like before your brain registers oh this isn't word maybe I should flip this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/813">TS</a>]

00:13:37   around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/817">TS</a>]

00:13:38   I don't know it's painful i find that the the longer we go with this remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:42   the more I the more worrisome i consider it as an exhibit in the case against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/822">TS</a>]

00:13:47   slight decline of overall design quality coming out of Apple these days you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/827">TS</a>]

00:13:52   it's a long title for the lost but i do feel that it's a pretty good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:56   because it's great technology and I love music idea and i really love uh I it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/836">TS</a>]

00:14:03   time goes on I really really like the the interface that as you use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/843">TS</a>]

00:14:08   trackpad and that the way that the pic at the name of it and stunts uikit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/848">TS</a>]

00:14:12   whatever they call it that yeah they're on the appletv right but the ways things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/852">TS</a>]

00:14:16   pop up as theirs to indicate what selected I find it so intuitive really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:21   like it I like it so much as time goes on that the talk to it thing I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/861">TS</a>]

00:14:26   other devices you know have this now too but like mice Jones is going through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/866">TS</a>]

00:14:31   friend's bender he's obsessed he's 12 years old obsessed with the show friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:36   on netflix and it's so awesome because he's got it time now he knows exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/876">TS</a>]

00:14:41   when the theme song kicks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   exactly how many seconds to jump and so you can send 45-6 skip ahead 30 it's 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/882">TS</a>]

00:14:48   seconds he's got like a and there's like a certain point in the song like to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/888">TS</a>]

00:14:52   a line or two in where he does it and it in it finishes exactly with like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/892">TS</a>]

00:14:57   the final strum of the theme song my drive and he's always like he likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/897">TS</a>]

00:15:02   nail it so that he doesn't miss a single thing the great feature 35 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/902">TS</a>]

00:15:07   so in other words at 30 seconds get wouldn't be quite right you get five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/907">TS</a>]

00:15:11   extra seconds of the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   you wouldn't want but i still think that the there's so many little details of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/913">TS</a>]

00:15:20   that the getting those details right are the hell is the whole reason Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/920">TS</a>]

00:15:23   apple and then yeah that they didn't with this is to me a little alarming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/923">TS</a>]

00:15:28   it's such a small thing to complain about the Serie remote that comes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/928">TS</a>]

00:15:31   apple TV but it's exactly the sort of little thing that to me that that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/931">TS</a>]

00:15:36   should be famous for getting right yeah well it's the small stuff and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/936">TS</a>]

00:15:40   there's been plenty of talk about how despite the fact that this you know box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/940">TS</a>]

00:15:44   has been in development for four years how rush this version was on the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/944">TS</a>]

00:15:49   and I can't help but feel that the remote was a partial casualty of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/949">TS</a>]

00:15:53   because i see like i see where they wanted it to go and I see how it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/953">TS</a>]

00:15:59   natural evolution of the apple TV room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   the remote from the third generation Apple TV but also looking at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/962">TS</a>]

00:16:06   looking at the apple TV and looking what it what how we work with it and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/966">TS</a>]

00:16:11   also puts us also supposed to be a game controller i I'm just like Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/971">TS</a>]

00:16:16   didn't need to make it be a stick like it it doesn't have to look like the 3rd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/976">TS</a>]

00:16:20   generation Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   it would have been okay if it was leave like a little bit fatter or a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   wider or even a different shape right because it's just you know what I'd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:30   don't need a remote that looks like a nano I need a remote that works and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/990">TS</a>]

00:16:35   optional practically speaking there there's a cut you no definite conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   between the perceived aesthetic about advantage of being symmetric and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:45   complete Haley undeniable usability advantage of being a symmetric whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:51   that's it like making it a wedge-shaped sort of you know in profile like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:55   macbook air or making it a wedge shaped like a star destroyer where it's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1015">TS</a>]

00:17:00   a triangle I mean there's all sorts of ways that you could make it asymmetric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   right you or or round type thing i know a lot of people are big fans of tivo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:09   remote i actually find tivo remotes to be very pleasant to hold the peanut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:13   shape but he act that the peanut is symmetric actually too has the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:17   problem in my opinion that I feel like that tivo remote would be better if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:21   was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   you know like slightly asymmetrical yeah he said you know like a weekend like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:26   when you're eatin peanuts and you get like a weird one more like that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   the mistake of the bottom is a little bit over eyes yeah yeah I'm holding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:35   apple TV or the sea remote in my hand right now and I'm thinking back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:39   lake the jeff daniels commercial about the 4-inch iphone and like moving your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:44   your thumb from one end of the corner to the other and there's just not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   like I have relatively small hands and even with relatively small hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:51   long fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:52   there's not enough bottom of the sea remote to grip in order to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:57   comfortably place your thumb so that you hit the like minus end of the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:01   button and the play/pause and also access comfortably the trackpad your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:05   kind of like that you're gripping it with like a finger and a half in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:09   to be able to reach down that far and then also reach up like the actual the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:14   usable area between the buttons at the top of the trackpad is totally thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:18   reachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   but but you can't you just can't hold it comfortably and if you're going to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:23   it comfortably which is like moving it up in your hand so that all four fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26   are arc reaching and like the bottom left corner of the Apple tea or the sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:30   remote is like comfortably in your hand then you really have to like go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:34   your hand with your phone to actually reach the bottom buttons so from my aunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:39   just from a comfortability standpoint and a this is how I'm holding a remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:43   it's just it's awkward it's offered on your thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   I would be remiss if I did not mention i know it it'll keep some email from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:50   coming because I've gotten tons of it from from readers pointing out asking if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:54   I noticed and yes i did that in the new version of the appletv OS i think its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:58   version 2.2 to ya that they've changed the behavior of the remote trackpad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:05   that's thank god you're right . and the change is that the trackpad in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:11   being receptive to like fast-forwarding or or skipping ahead only is sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:18   to that once you've clicked it to pause yes so if you're playing video and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:23   pick up the remote and you pick it up upside down or the way you pick it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:27   your finger touches the trackpad nothing happens until you click whereas until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:33   version 2.2 it was immediately live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   which I can see it and to me it's just like it just reeks of being designed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:41   an office with the lights on and you're looking at it and you can see it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:47   opposed to being actually like play tested in a real living room at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:51   with you know what you can't see the remote or you're not paying you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:56   that yet you have the lights offer you have your heel lights on until the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:59   mode or whatever and you can't see the remote but moreover the biggest problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:03   to me when I first got the apple TV remote is I'm I'm the type of person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   where like we have a look of a deep couch so I will usually curl up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:11   couch to watch something and then the remote will either go on the arm or will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:15   go on the cushion next to me which also that's probably why I'm losing all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:18   these from host but what in 91 the original you know version of the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:25   TV software i would move and even touching the the trackpad area with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:30   my leg or my clothing would instantly start the scrub right and they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:36   is a but i think it's the play/pause button will your like will take you out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:40   of the scrub motion but for the life of me I could never remember which button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:44   that was I went before I kind of learned the interface and it's just like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:48   in the scrub and now you're in panic right because you're like oh god I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   accidentally scrub 45 minutes ahead and I don't remember where i am and i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:56   touch the trackpad right and I don't know what you're watching with anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   else you immediately get the hay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   yeah everybody's you do I'm sorry yet so that that improvement 292 like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:08   a lot of really really good improvements and then in the 9.2 software updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:12   apple TV but that was probably that was the one where I I you know got up out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:16   my chair and like raise my hands and like thanks and gratitude because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:20   like I would trigger it pretty much every time i watch television and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:24   yes it's a little bit you know it's more involved and I under like I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:29   thinking behind it right I the development process where they say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:34   yeah well no we want you to just be able to swipe across it because otherwise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:38   feature isn't discoverable or it's not easy enough and too many clicks and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:43   get the institutional thinking behind that but in usability you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:47   mind making me that the extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   click to scrub and in fact it's much better it's why you have to try stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:53   you can't just think it sounds like a great idea i was totally worth trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:57   this and should not have shipped no usability it but it totally sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:02   a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   you don't make me wait don't make me wait for a click to start scrubbing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   exactly make it easy except for the fact that you're trackpads don't recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:10   the difference between a leg and a finger or picking it up upside down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:15   alright let me take a break here and thank our first sponsor it is our good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   friends at igloo we all struggle with productivity we're all constantly under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:22   pressure to accomplish more do it faster and all teams small groups companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:27   have evolved their own ways to communicate to share data every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:33   everybody system is different than everybody else's let's face it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   igloo can help you keep doing things your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:40   only better it's the intranet that you will actually like collaboration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:46   shouldn't be painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   it shouldn't force a whole system on your team and that's the way it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:51   designed go to a glue software.com / tts tts being the initials of the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:59   and you'll get a free trial right there at the glue software and you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:04   start using it right now you get a 30-day free trial for as many people as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:08   you want if you have a team of 10 people are fewer you can just use it for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11   indefinitely which is fantastic for a small enough team and here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:15   you can just use the parts of a glue that you need to fill in the gaps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:19   your collaboration right now and they have got so much stuff they've got stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   like what they call $FULLPHONENUM micro blog which think of it as like your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   private twitter just for your group fantastic little feature a great way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:31   share links and stuff like that that might be about like competitors or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   something like that the type stuff that you would want to share on public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   twitter but you want to have a you know be able to tweet to each other in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:40   same way great little feature calendars file sharing things like read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:46   notifications for documents that you shared with other people on your team if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49   you need that you can use it if you don't need it you don't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   about it don't turn it on so configurable so many options to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:56   from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:56   really really easy to get started using it and to set it up and it's even easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1436">TS</a>]

00:24:00   to actually use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   so sign up now at blue software.com / tts so I mean maybe we should get right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:11   to the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   yeah the ipad pro this is really what I want to talk about is the new 9.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:17   iPad pro which i've been using since the event and I still haven't written about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:21   because I'm finding it really hard to not hard but it I i detect on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:31   that this is in some ways to me looking at it objectively the 9.7 inch iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:36   is maybe the most purest modern like it it symbolizes everything that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:45   doing today overall and it to me it's like right in the middle it's not small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:49   like an iphone it's not big like a Mac it's running their most popular OS iOS 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:55   it's a form factor that has evolved the least of anything from where it started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1495">TS</a>]

00:25:02   right like the 9.7 inch displays exactly what the original iPad had all they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:08   done is make it thinner flattered and lighter over the years and then starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:12   with the ipad air's they got rid of the bezels on the side very very to me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:18   very very similar in so many ways to the original iPad just been very much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:24   yet to me it's the one device that I see on twitter and i can see in my email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   from readers that makes some people the angriest and I it's like to me it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:33   the most innocent and like it non I it shouldn't be controversial least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:40   controversial at computing device that Apple makes the entire lineup and yet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:45   seems to be the one that has makes people the angriest how dare you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:49   insinuate that an ipad might ever replace my beautiful wonderful mcintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:55   how dare you that's that's the just right yeah just of it is is outraged at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1555">TS</a>]

00:26:01   the claim that that you can get you could do your work on it and or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:06   anyone could do their work on it and that it therefore doesn't deserve to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09   called Pro even though just putting the word pro in the name seems to me while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:13   some people up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   and I don't get it and I I did and I come at this from the perspective of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:19   somebody who even just earlier on the show talking to you about the podcast me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22   personally I i won't say couldn't because couldn't is too strong a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:26   but I don't like working from an ipad of any sort compared to working on a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:34   you don't prefer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35   I do not prefer and I often i feel hamstrung i feel like i'm i'm doing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:44   work with chopsticks instead of with my fingers right yeah I was right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:49   with you until last November and that's and I feel like that's totally fine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:55   don't I folks who have been using the mac for years and years and years who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1615">TS</a>]

00:27:00   have extensive work flows on the mac and are comfortable with their mcintosh like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:06   I I completely understand why the initial impression to the ipad is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:11   little bit of abject horror and and even like a I'm making like the cartoon like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:17   all evil like hands cross frightened face about about the ipad but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:25   it's not here to take away your Mac like I really I really feel like maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:32   just a bumper sticker that comes with the ipad is like this this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   intended to destroy the imac or even really to destroy the laptop is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:41   different type of computer I don't got really don't get the anger and I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:45   that like i said as somebody who personally does not really strongly does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:49   not prefer to use it for what i would consider my work I . that's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:56   personally I don't but I'd completely don't deny that other people would see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1676">TS</a>]

00:28:00   advantages to it and I don't understand the anger at it and I you know and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:05   guess and i think it maybe even plays into like what we were saying earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:10   when we saying it would bring your poor 11-inch macbook air got drowned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:16   it's not a good time to buy mac and so they like it i love that the macrumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:20   buying guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   now which is a great service whenever anybody asks me for advice and should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   get a new mac now I don't even listen to rumors i just say just go look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28   macrumors buying guide and they don't even really go by rumors that they list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   him i guess but for the most part it's just how many days has it been since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:35   last time Apple revved this device and what's the average in history for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:42   device in terms of how long does Apple go and if if it's green it means hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:46   this is a fairly new product definitely you should feel free to buy it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   because it's probably early in the product cycle and then they have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   yellow like and mid-range and then red means look this is overdue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:57   historically this is overdue for a revision well right now just about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:01   entire Mac lineup is in the red everything except the imax yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:04   everything except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   dymax that have these the the new bike you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   hi gamut displays mhm and i just think that's historical circumstances I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:16   think that's just the way it worked out with apples focus in with apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:20   Intel's roadmap and and etc and I think once you know we'll see revisions to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:25   awful lot of stuff either BTW before WWDC are at WTC in june but I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:31   feel like in and some kind of emotional way it's it contributes to the anger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:38   that people are worried that people who are worried that that this means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:43   they're going to either make the mac go away or just just not pay attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:49   the entire Mac lineup that it's proof of it or make it different because it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:53   really think about it with the exception of the 4k and the 5k imac the last real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:57   new mac we saw was the 12-inch MacBook which also made a lot of people mad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:02   differently right well but sort of different and similar reasons yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:07   because in terms of only having a headphone jack and one USB sea port and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:15   literally not even a separate one for power that is the only two things yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:18   plug-in it is sort of the iOS ification of mac hardware like I I think either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:26   way i wrote last year was that a lot of people have been worried for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:30   that mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:31   is software is going to get iOS ified too far and take away what we love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:37   the mac operating system and what we've seen actually with the macbook is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:42   really the hardware that's gotten more like iOS than the software where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:46   know you didn't know battery to take out anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49   I mean that I don't at this point it almost feels silly that we used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   able to take out our macbook batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   oh yeah I mean and you honestly even look at other folks who have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:57   smartphones where you can take out the battery and you're like what the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:01   yeah I ram soldered onto the motherboard yeah god forbid you were able to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:07   your own ram I mean it was great wasn't you know what they are trade-offs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   it's definitely did I don't see how anybody could deny that that the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:14   hardware has gotten very of large injection of the design sensibility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:18   iOS yeah but it also goes back I mean to almost the first you know that the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:23   real generation of Max too because the mac plus was not exactly very incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:28   but I think about it like you could expand the ram i think that was about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   well indicate that was when they think they first started using special screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:35   that yeah it so it's not I it's funny to me when people are like Oh apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:41   never done this before you used to be able to take her with all your hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   and I'm like no I think you're a PC user in the nineties apple has been perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:48   in bits and pieces but yeah the new the new macbook it's funny because i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:53   when i drowned my air that was the question of like okay what's my next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:57   laptop gonna be am I gonna go to like the 12-inch MacBook USBC is that gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:02   happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03   am I gonna pray that they you know come out with a red air which is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:08   never going to happen am I gonna go back to a pro i or am I just gonna keep on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:13   using the ipad it's just like that's a big question mark for me because I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:17   always have a desktop Mac like there's no question i need i need a superpower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:22   machine that i can do high-quality editing on that I can for that would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:26   podcasts on you know that with a little bit less complication than trying to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:30   two devices but as a laptop i have like as I was saying I I was very skeptical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:37   of doing work on an iPad because i had tried I tried in 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:42   I tried in 2012 I tried in 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   I tried in 2014 when the ipad air 2 came out and when he ipad pro finally came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:51   out the only reason why I spent more than three days with it was the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   know being like how well I can draw on this thing so I took it and nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:59   on a two-week vacation and I was just kind of like you know what I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:03   take this because i want to draw and i'm mostly on vacation so I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:08   worry about doing a lot of work but if I have to do work I'll figure out some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:13   to like model through it right and what I ended up discovering was in those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:19   weeks i ended up doing quite a bit of work because of course the ipad pro had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:23   just come out and i started writing like the ipad pro experiment series on I more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:27   which is just me attempting to do various various facets of my normal work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:33   on the ipad with surprisingly good success with the exception of podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:39   which were still like a horrible you know hellstorm to do i I figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:45   ways to to do photo editing and two to post my stuff and and to do all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:50   research and to write in a dead-end and to make movies to to cut movies to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:58   audio and the more i use the pro and the more i use workflow which federico [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:04   teaching at max stories his guides have basically been invaluable to that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:08   more i got started to get really comfortable with it right where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:11   like it it felt a lot like the first the first time I ever used copy paste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:16   shortcuts on the Mac when I was like 9 and my dad is like PS here's a faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:20   way to do all the like write the same sentence five times in a row they felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:25   like that it felt it felt like oh I I kind of understand how an ipad supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:31   to be used as like a rather how it's supposed to be used as a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:35   work device how I how I can use it as a professional work device and once i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:40   into that mindset it became a lot easier when I came back and I did have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:44   macbook air accessible and I did have my desktop I was like okay I can do all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:50   this on my iPad and it has the 10-hour battery and I have cellular so I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:55   have to worry about whether there's Wi-Fi if I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   upload something and I don't have to deal with the the hassle of sending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:02   personal hotspot it just it became much more comfortable but it was a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:08   it was a 2-3 week process it was it was very much a like and a dive in headfirst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:13   and I'm gonna be frustrated for about a week and then I'm gonna figure stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:18   and some things I'm gonna figure out and some things are still going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   impossible with a mac and in the end it was how many things can i do comfortably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:26   without the you know like you were saying at the beginning without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   hassle without the feeling that you're basically trying to you know fit an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:33   elephant into a compact into a compact car her um I always I always like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:39   analogy of feeling like you're going uphill on a bike versus down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:43   yeah that when you're in the flow and you have a computer that set up the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:46   you you know whatever whatever operating system but if you feel like you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:51   bicycle that's going downhill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   that's when you're getting you feel like you're feel great yeah you feel like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:58   productive as your mind you're only limited by your own brain is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   going uphill it when it feels like you're going uphill it just feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:05   this sucks my the system is slowing me down like I'm you know fully caffeinated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:11   a midday I feel great about you know I feel like I've got good ideas that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:15   writing or whatever i'm doing but if you feel like you're frustrated by the tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:20   it it just ended somehow brings you down to say going uphill because you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:26   like I could be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27   I could be doing better it's like when you're really sick and you have all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:32   the great ideas in the world but because your body is letting you down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:36   you can't execute any of them and you're like what i want to do this please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:40   yeah and there and they're still definitely some tasks where I feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   way with the ipad but I but after spending some time forcing myself to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:48   it and getting over the initial hump it feels a lot better three touch actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:53   was something i just wrote an article over the weekend about that we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:57   you were complaining a little bit about 3d touch and jason l was complaining a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:01   lot about 3d touch and I'm like I totally get where you guys are coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:05   from because there's a lot about 30 touch that's unfinished and a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:09   that just doesn't click properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   but there were some features you know I forced myself for instance to use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:16   the left side deep press to get into multitasking and i'm using the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:22   as like a cursor so that you can move it rather than using the old style and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:26   those two short cuts alone made three touch i think i called it was like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:30   touches an itch I can't live without because with those two features my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:35   iphone productivity is so much faster than it was pre-op phone success and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:41   like even with all the problems with 3d touch that's like those two things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:45   like know all of the devices have to have 3d touch and God forbid what if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:49   home button disappears maybe three touches are like initial way into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:53   getting us comfortable with that but you have to use it right you have to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:57   yourself to use the left side multitask a shortcut because where we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:02   trained for what six seven eight years now to to press that double press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:09   home button since iOS four to bring up the multitasking shortcut and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   don't give it a like if you don't force yourself you're not going to get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   your old habits and you're not gonna be able to see if the new habits are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:20   potentially faster or potentially slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   yeah i think it highlights the it's just an inherent problem in designing systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:29   in the it systems meaning like that the basic UI of a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:33   yeah touch screens on the mac to me as a perfect example we still don't have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:37   and I still I don't think we ever will I just because it just doesn't work to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:41   have an interface where the elements are so close to each other to be so tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:46   white in and they should be because the mouse is a very fine instrument or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:51   trackpad or you know third whatever you're using for input on Mac it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:55   fine I kind of feel like 3d touch though is that way to iOS where if we had 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2335">TS</a>]

00:39:03   touch right from the start in $MONTH 2007 I feel it would be integrated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   the system in a way that kind of can't be now because they can't just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:11   things that are essential for it because only the iphone success and success plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:17   have it even a new ipads don't have it so every other iOS device needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:22   there needs to be a way to do the 3d touch stuff without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   yeah and I for that I look to live photos is a good example of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:29   where this is this is something that is exclusive to the success the 6s plus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:34   small ipad pro and the iphone SE and only two of those four devices have 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:41   touch so they just said and also they have of course my photos on the apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:45   and my photos support on the eye on the mac to to look at it now like okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:50   how do we still show the like shift from still photo to live photos and on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:56   the ipad on the iphone sexy it's just a long press and I'm I mean I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:01   mentioned that in your in your sort of overview of Jason's article where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:06   like it makes a lot of sense to tie 3d touch too long press gestures be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:11   especially because if you've ever used a 3d touch device and I think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:15   from the home screen primarily is trying to actually trigger the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:19   between a long press in a 3d to in a light 3d touch is almost impossible huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:24   you try and edit your home screen and it's just like nope you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:27   preview app icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   nope you didn't do it that we couldn't do it right either so I don't under I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:33   don't understand why they didn't just jump into the idea of let's just design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:37   iOS 9 so that a long press equals 3d touch ok one of the other minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:43   annoyances and I have a 3d touch and I i love the idea of long of hard pressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:47   the apps on that home screen getting shortcuts and so yeah there's some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:52   apples done some great stuff with that and I know that a lot of third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:56   utility makers have some really clever stuff in there but the one that drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   me nuts is for the phone app it's like you can't set who the people are it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:04   like the boys just like three random people and the logic of it doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   any sense to me because I it i would i would guess that at least half of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:15   the calls i ever make our to my wife and sometimes she's not listed and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:19   doesn't see I don't know how there could be any algorithm that would that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:23   gasps as to who i want that list that wouldn't include her based on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:27   outgoing call history and yet sometimes she's not listed sometimes she is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:31   sometimes she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   i I just wish that I wish that feature would just let me pic three people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:36   just say like top three p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   only my phone favorites and that's it yeah was it's funny because clicking my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:42   clicking my phone right now it is the top three people in my phone favorites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:46   but I'm also pretty sure that that's again that's random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:50   I'm it's the same thing with messages to is like messages doesn't show that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:54   most recent people that you've texted and I'm like why why doesn't just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:59   show the three most recent people wouldn't that make the most sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   yeah i don't i don't know what they're doing but it's definitely that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:05   what it no and that's I mean that's a factor of Apple being weak on certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:10   algorithmic things in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   it's what we did a retrospective on iOS 9 like six months in one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:17   that still irritates me is the whole promise of proactive was really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:22   and I was really excited about you know oh yeah it'll frequently know what apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:27   are using it this time a day because it technically has all of that information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30   and it's all local to your device but serious suggestions rarely really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:36   helpful on weird random occasions it is but more often than not it is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:43   couple of apps that i may have used recently and and let alone all the lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:49   screen app suggestions i feel like i've only seen that once or twice in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:53   since installing iOS 9 you know where it's like oh yes it will show you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:57   swipe up in the bottom left-hand corner for the most recently use app you use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:01   like nine in the morning I don't have never seen that i'm waiting for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:05   show me like tweet by go read your tweets because you always do this every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:09   morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   right so do add before going further so youryour when you say your portable is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:18   ipad pro you mean the 12-point is right i mean the 12 find out yeah I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:22   both sitting on my my desk right now but when i say the and i'm working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:28   review because i like you I've been spending a lot of time using it rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31   than writing about it but when it comes to replacing a laptop whole hog you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:39   not having a macbook in the wings the 12.9 inch has to be the way to go for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:43   because of split view and keyboard alone all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:48   I thought I disagree but i will get back to that yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2628">TS</a>]

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00:44:39   it looks great everything's aligned you can't there's no little piece of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   beat you only putting in a traditional frame where it's like off center and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:45   then just when you've got the frame all closed up you shifts a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2685">TS</a>]

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00:45:37   I i like the 9.7 inch model better but i think it's possibly related to the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:42   that that like i said i don't really do work on the ipad i just use it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:47   reading and I've always liked it for reading and i used to i mean this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:51   badly my eyes have gotten worse as a rocketing into my forties but like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:56   the ipad mini first came out I love that was like this is the ipad for me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:00   I can hold in one hand and it's but it's like as I did even in the years since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:07   that's come out which haven't been that many it the fact that it's just the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   number of pixels as the 9.7 inch iPad shrunken down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:15   it's a lot easier for me now to use a 9.7 inch just because it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:20   interface bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   oh yeah so if I were younger I think i would still be a fan of the ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:26   form factor now that I'm getting older I like the 9.7 and to me the 12 it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:33   isn't suitable and I've gone back now that i have both of them as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:37   called the ipad pro here in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   I've gone back to it and it's I see why other people like I can see why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   like that especially if they're using it on a desk but for me it's it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:47   good as sighs and I find much like Jason's know who wrote a review of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   smart keyboard i expected to really despise the keyboard because of the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:56   but I've actually found myself but I'm pretty good typing on it it's it's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:47:00   bad as I mean it's not as good as a full-size keyboard i mean i can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:03   that but it's way better than I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   yeah it's it's serviceable which is a lot better than I can say for many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:11   many other keyboards and I've used bluetooth keyboards and USB keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:16   for both the iPad Mini which used to be my my go-to ipad actually and the 9.7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:22   inch iPad old old original ipad and ipad air and ipad 2 it's interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:31   because I think there is a very big divide where the the 12.9 inch is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:36   the device for people who want to read or people who want to like casually draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:42   or just have an ipad like I i really think especially with the 9.7 coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:47   and having the smart connector and having access to the pencil the 9.7 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:52   mean it's the sweet spot for ipad size right it's the ipad size that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   been developing since 2010 and it feels it feels great in the hand like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2875">TS</a>]

00:48:00   thought that I was gonna get the 9.7 to look at it and to review it and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:05   was gonna return it because I was just like it's you know I've got a I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:09   big ipad i don't need another ipad even though it's pretty evident rose gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   it's nice but I don't need it and i think i might keep it around because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:18   is as you said it is really nice for reading and it's so light in comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:23   like my 12.9 inch iPad here's my confession about this is that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:28   my 12.9 inch ipad is a macbook with a touchscreen what I've turned it into I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:34   haven't encased in like this gigantic logitech create keyboard case which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:39   turns it into like a three-pound computer which is heavier than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:43   macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:44   I and on that side I'm I feel silly because I'm like I've just turned this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:49   incredibly you know fairly still fairly light piece of technology and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:53   basically shoved it in like one of the ugliest ipad cases I've ever seen in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:57   life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   although it is bright red so at least I've got that going for me but overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:02   it's not a it's it's not it doesn't look like an iPad it looks closer to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:08   surface when you if you'd see it from behind that it does from an ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:12   you'd only be able to tell them it's an ipad if you came back like behind me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   looked closely at the way that it was designed because it has the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   up but I've basically the the 12.9 inch does not come out of this case I i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:24   occasionally take it out if I'm like showing it to somebody and they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:28   like feel how heavy it is but to me it is like it is part of this keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:33   that's part partially because the logitech create keyboard is its it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:38   beautiful home row that has shortcuts that just make using iOS like a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:43   where you can have you know it has a quick to home button and it has a search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:48   button which will automatically close the app urine and pull up spotlight you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:52   can do command tab on it so it's it's basically a laptop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55   a laptop with the with with a multi-touch on it and and split view and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/2995">TS</a>]

00:50:02   split view on the 12 9 when you're doing when you're trying to do actual work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:06   really nice it's basically to portrait iPads side-by-side that's not again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:12   the perfect implementation of multiple windows but i actually like I I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:17   like it a little bit better than the tiered window system that Western has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   four especially for writing because a lot calmer right i look at my any of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:26   max at any given time including the one I'm my imac I'm staring right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:30   it's there's a there's a sense to it i I'm not lost but it's it i'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:36   displeased by the clutter that yes it is its there's a method to my madness and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:42   know which apps tend to be on which sides and and stuff like that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:46   doesn't look nice neat whereas the ipad in forces neatness because it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:52   you can only have two limitations time and are always open at these set you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:57   know like 5050 or 230 and exactly um and there's a certain clarity you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:06   that is very appealing to me the fact that you cannot make it messy and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:10   you know and again I think you're right and I don't think it's any surprise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:15   one group of people who find the ipad the most appealing as a true work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:20   machine our writers is that it you know because the lack of clutter can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:24   focus your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25   uh-huh so now i see the appeal of that but it's still I don't know there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:31   something there it gets back to like my complain about 3d touch not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:35   integrated because it wasn't there from the beginning i find that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   multitasking in iOS still isn't quite it's not quite seamless because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:43   wasn't there from the beginning and the fact that every app doesn't support it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   and it's impossible to predict which apps are going to or not and finding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:51   apps and that right pecker i don't think i've ever used that pecker honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54   open it once and I was just like no then well then how how do you do multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:58   if you don't use the picture mantab oh I am I always have my my iPad connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:04   that create keyboard so the only the ways that ice which is just constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:08   command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:08   at command cab command tab and I'll open one app and then i'll split screen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:12   and then I'll just command tab until I find the right the ring apps for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:16   put in the other exactly exactly and it still you know it's not perfect because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:22   they're as you said it's it's something that was essentially developed what last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:26   year right on and it's missing things like drag-and-drop which would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:30   crucial between one pain to the other pain and which it just does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:34   four sandbox reasons and probably just development reasons and there's a guy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:40   made a whole laundry list of you know potential feature is that the that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:44   next generation of iOS four for ipad is currently lacking that people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:49   using it for professional uses desperately want um but but that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:55   know if you want to use the iPad as a professional machine you basically have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:59   to attach a keyboard to it right now and you can use you know it's it's nice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:04   touchscreen is nice because then you can turn it into something else like what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:08   really liked about the 12-inch 1209 images that i can take it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11   keyboard and i can write up a storm and I can do professional work and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:16   as easily I collapse it you know on top of the keyboard and it's just a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:20   and I can use that in the pencil and very quickly like edit dust out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:25   photos for for like I'm or hero shots or you know I went on am I help some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:31   friends take some engagement photos and i was using one of the adapters I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:35   pulled out the SD card and I all I uploaded them all onto my my iPad and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:40   were able to basically go through them on that 12.9 inch screen with like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:45   a couple behind me immediately pick out the favorites and then send all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:49   two lightroom so that I could you know properly batch and color correct them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:52   and that took you know probably 15 minutes we're on a on a Mac it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:57   like it's not it's not that the workflow would have been it's like dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:02   more difficult but it's just it's it's taking out some of the steps and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:07   little bit easier you know it's easier to view an ipad and pass it between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:11   people than it is to like pick up a laptop and handed and it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:15   it's slightly slightly different use cases on and again it's something one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:21   better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   they're like overall I think they're both great machines especially when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:26   talk about affordability but if you're doing certain certain tasks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:31   especially if you're very adding tasks you know you don't just use your laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:35   for writing you want to edit photos or you want to draw that's when the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:40   know the flexibility of having an ipad with the keyboard that also just turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:45   into an ipad when you need it is really something special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:49   um I i find that the like one of the things that slows me down the most and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:56   there's just I don't know if there's if it's ever gonna be good enough is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3296">TS</a>]

00:55:00   ability to precisely select ranges of texts like me and I don't know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:05   it's III because i do so much of it it's it's and I've done it for years I come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:12   really really really fast on a mac at taking my mouse or trackpad if I'm on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:17   a macbook and selecting exactly the range of text that I want copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:21   command tabbing to the other app and pasting it where I wanted to go and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:25   find that like that to me is one of those things that always feels like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:28   pedaling uphill on on an iPad 14 it's awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:32   yeah okay here it's definitely better with the keyboard all of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:37   keyboard you know text selection shortcuts work so i basically just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   know I'll do like command control and use the arrow keys and command shift and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:44   just you know select everything I need that way and that and like Nancy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:49   all of the all the shortcuts that I normally and I've pretty much moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:53   entirely away from mouse based select text selection once I once I figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:57   the right like set of keyboard commands to use the only place where this bites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:02   me in the ass in an iOS and it's one of the things that you mentioned it earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:06   we're like some apps don't supports love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09   well some apps don't support you know simple things like keyboard shortcuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:14   yeah um and I'm not calling out anybody here google huh have have basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:20   hell of a hate-hate affair with the ipad right now where things like for instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:25   in Google Docs and M dash doesn't work you try and do the keyboard command for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:30   an em dash and it just won't it just doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:34   and and it's just like things like that or being able to select text just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:38   doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39   ok how I don't mean how do you even break something like that i do they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:43   like a command tied to I remember when the first version of textmate came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:47   and as a longtime be at user the appeal of it escaped me but I also kept an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:52   mind and I thought well I can see why people don't like BB and even though i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:56   love it and therefore if they don't like BB at maybe this is the glass of ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3416">TS</a>]

00:57:00   water and he'll that they've been waiting for but there were so many weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:04   things in the first version of textmate including the fact that there was a menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   command that was tied to not just option p just they give us some kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:13   print setup or I don't know but some command in the app you have to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:18   option p and I thought will wait how in the world instantly as a long time Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:23   user that well how would you type the pie character and the answer was not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:27   can and and it just was that like the guy who made the appt didn't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:32   you know that you that option plus a character who's not for menu commands it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:37   was really reserved for typing extended characters because he was a relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:42   new to the mac it would just didn't occur to them like you should never not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:47   be able to type in md know and it makes you feel it makes you feel stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:54   then it makes you question is the keyboard broken and finally you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:58   the point where you're like oh google just didn't build a good fucking nap you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:03   know what are you married I'm very angry about that i'll give an example here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:07   an example on the ipad pro of an app that I love I would and I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:11   there's a random me holding it up i love tweetbot for iOS you consider tweetbot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:15   for iOS to be my favorite iOS app . like a burger from anybody else but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:26   primarily based on my interaction with it on the phone and I find that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:30   ipad version is not it's good it still is that the ipad twitter app that I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:34   but I there's little things about it that I don't like as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:38   their beds are so bank that's my problem well in life that's our screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:43   my thing is that i don't know what to do with that right hand column when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:46   have it in portrait not landscape and I have it in and using the ipad in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:52   keyboard it has to be in landscape but the other little thing that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:58   do and again you know that i'm complaining about an app that i love but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:02   it doesn't it's not hooked up to the space bar in any way in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:07   just scroll down you can't yeah you can't just you have to take your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   on the screen which sort of defeats the the comfort of using the ipad in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:15   laptop configuration with the with a any keyboard internet one of my complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:21   with the ipad pro 12 inch and 12 . 9-inch back in September was that using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:26   this space bar to scroll was messed up in so many apps like Safari scrolled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:32   very strange that cage in the quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35   yeah we skipped like two paragraphs every time you practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:38   yeah so like and scrolling too much is way worse than scrolling too little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:42   because at least if it's growing too little you could you just have to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:45   space too many times whereas if it rolls more than a screen you've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48   missed text and it it defeats the purpose Apple commendably has actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:53   done a lot of work and one of my biggest things that I would sing the praises of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:57   using the ipad pro and I dis applies to both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   using the ipad pro and I dis applies to both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   Pat pros at this point but it's because it's an iOS 9.3 thing but the spacebar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:04   does what I mean in way more cases including especially in safari so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:10   open up safari and even if you're at a weird scaling factor because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   like an iPad optimized thing you have space and it Scrolls by a sensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:17   amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:18   almost almost every time I can remember you know in the week weeks i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:22   using this like a I can't remember a handful of cases where it didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:26   another thing they do that's great is and I think its new 99% sure it's know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:30   is that when you're using mail the up-and-down arrows always go to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:34   and previous message so you can do i find myself able to like triage my inbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:40   and just go through all of my unread emails from the day on the ipad with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:44   keyboard way way better than I could before iOS 9.3 simply for the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:50   i can just use the up and down arrows to go between messages please delete key to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:54   get rid of them so it's really big big improvement but the fact that tweet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:59   doesn't really do anything with the keyboard really kind of not going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:03   it's useless because that's that's hyperbole but if i want to do twitter on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06   the ipad pro I I find that I need to take it off the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:10   yeah I usually i almost never run Tweetbot full screen all usually run it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:16   in like 7030 where it's the 30 little bit and then I'll have my my thumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:21   like the bottom right corner of wherever the ipad is like product up so I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:26   scroll really little bit that but it's it's a it's a problem and for me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:31   something like tweet but I read it bottom-up like I won't read from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:34   most recent i still am sort of a timeline completionist because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:38   apparently hate myself so it's like idea to refer I just need arrow keys like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:44   spacebar would be bad for me up but but there are apps like that their apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:48   where it's half finished and and that's I think key to a lot of folks ipad as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:54   work machine complaints and honestly was my complaint until very recently when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:59   don't like when the pencil came out my my perception of pro of ipad had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:04   change because the pencil is basically what I've been asking for since 2010 as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:10   like this is an amazing drawing device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   and even if it sucks at everything else I'm going to carry it around because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:16   it's an amazing drawing device so if i have to carry it around at this time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:20   12.9 inch was the only model but i have to carry it around while I might let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:24   might as well at least figure out what else I can do with it and turns out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:29   can do quite a lot but when I was coming to the ipad in print in Prior versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:33   like even the ipad air 2 I was so excited about it for about a week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:39   then it went into like my bookshelf of iOS devices and then I never touched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:43   because I just I hadn't found anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:46   the ipad was really good for how where it's like it's it's great for reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:51   but because i had at the time you know I had I had switched to an iphone six-plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:59   just to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   I and let's have since gone back to the success but without with a screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:06   big I i was so lazy about getting off the iphone and reading on a device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:11   was better for me despite the fact that the ipad has a much much nicer screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:16   and is much more comfortable honestly in the hand to read than trying to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:21   prop up the iphone with your pinky because it's just small enough that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:25   think that you can balance it like that while you read I was just I was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:29   lazy about it i was i was blowing off the ipad for that and just because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:34   I would try and do something professionally like when i try and prep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:39   an article with earlier versions of iOS and get to the point where I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:43   upload thumbnails like I couldn't I couldn't upload a video or photo because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:48   the upload file button in safari didn't work i would just throw up my hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:52   be like well you know FS this is stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:55   this is this is not worth my time it's again it feels like you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58   chopsticks instead of your fingers exactly exactly except sometimes when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:01   it's something like you that you can't even get to the file uploading from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:04   safari it's like like using a lego robot to control chopsticks from across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:10   room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:11   yeah i think you know I'm just be easier for me to just go upstairs to my mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:15   would actually be easier to get up from where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   to not be lazy look we're gonna happen if you're not home like to do it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:22   be easier for me to go home and get on a mac and do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:26   yeah and and since then you know iOS 9 has a has a file picker built-in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:31   iCloud Drive and workflow both make it so much easier to deal with files on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:35   iOS then you know it actually it feels like a normal file system if when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:41   when you set it up to your liking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   which is really nice butt but I feel like so many people have had those bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:47   experiences where they go in and they try and do something on iOS and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:51   does not work . that they've given up or they or they see something not working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:55   they're just like well that's never going to get fixed and why would I even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:59   try i don't even like the ipad that much so i get i get the hesitation and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:06   that's honestly why I'm really excited for the 9.7 inch iPad pro you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:11   somebody i'm going to use the 12.9 at least until i get a macbook her new a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:17   new mac laptop if I got a new mac laptop because it's it's comfortable and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:21   mostly does what i need like ninety percent of my job I can do on an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:26   pro and I can do it in such a way that it doesn't make me feel like I'm tearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:30   my hair out where it's actually enjoyable and in some cases better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:34   on my mac but for the vast majority of people they're either not going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:39   the time to give that a try or they're just not going to be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42   giving that a try in the 9.7 inch both in cost and form factor i think is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:47   easier sell of a here's a way to get into ipad and to mess around with ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:52   without having to make the commitment of this is going to be your only device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:57   you're going to carry around or you're going to carry around a three-pound ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:00   and keyboard along with a mac the ipad pro the baby at the baby pro as I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:07   been calling it with one of like apples Smart keyboards and and like a back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:12   cover doesn't weigh that what always like to 2.2 worry maybe if that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:20   get a hand right now with the with the keyboard cover on and I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   it was but it-it-it if you think of it just as an ipad it feels like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:28   very heavy cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:29   yeah and if you think if I could take the cover off and just hold the ipads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:33   like wow that cover really weighs it down but if I think of it is as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:36   portable computer you can take around and I remember what it used to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   to tell ya you know even the earlier errors you know it's like wow this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:43   absolutely amazing in comparison yeah it's it's it's like you're I was holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:47   the 9.7 inch outside because I was trying out the two-tone display drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:53   outside and we had a pretty gusty day and the thing almost blew out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:57   hands because it's just it's so light and because it's flat like that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:01   it the wrong way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03   um it's a really nice you know it's a nice shape to hold it feels really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:07   and you pair it with a pencil like the thing i'm really i'm most excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:11   is getting this into the hands of like kids and teenagers who are interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:16   drawing poor interested in you know doing more unconventional things with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:22   computer then you might do traditionally with a mac there's an they're like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:27   been testing drawing apps i'm testing handwriting apps and things like that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:31   there is an app that allows you to make your your own fonts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:34   oh I saw your article this this is this was like blue lines because I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:41   used to date somebody who is a who was a professional typographer and like built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:45   fonts and I would watch him for like hours and hours while he would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:50   perfect turning and and change drawing paths and with the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:55   not only is it really easy to just sketch out like your your initial set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:59   characters in this app but it has all the all of the kerning features and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:04   of the path you know adjustments that the professional version of like from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:09   photographer would have and it and you can upload it directly to the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:14   with a profile so you can literally you know make make your own font and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:19   install it immediately on iOS and use it in a project like pages which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:24   it's like that kind of very specific niche thing I feel like it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:30   make typographers sing for joy because you can you can start this and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:33   could bring it somewhere else right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   you could work you could start a font you have a stroke of inspiration and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:40   can start a font on your on your iPad weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   it's a 9.7 or 12.9 and then bring into your mac and work on it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:47   it's just like I see so many so many kids like if I had a device like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:54   a kid like my wacom is probably the best the move the most comparable thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:59   even that was so so like light years behind what this is that it is it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:04   so much potential and the the price and the size and the fact that it works with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:09   the pencil just I feel like poises the potential for huge huge growth in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:16   sector assuming that people will buy into it i'm wondering it's just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:22   thing about it is that if you get the whole rig with meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:25   let's say the mid mid capacity one huh 749 and then you want the cellular it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:31   goes up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32   I think that's 8 8 49 extract 129 1621 will sit down so it's an extra hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:39   hi Lisa hundred bucks hundred twenty bucks the keyboard 250 bucks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:43   pencils a hundred bucks so overall you're looking at even just for the 128 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:47   one you're looking at at least like 11 hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:51   yeah and it's a it's pretty expensive if you want to try an outfit now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:56   all sorts of those things that aren't necessarily required you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4196">TS</a>]

01:10:01   get the cellular one you don't know you could get you know thankfully the mid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:05   the entry level is 32 gigs not 16 gauge and and decently priced right i think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:12   you know that you're never going to draw you could I think most buy it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:17   you can skip the pencil i think if you you know there might be some handwriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:22   type things that you could do with it but I think as a general rule if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:25   know you don't draw then I i think it's easy to know not to get the pencil or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:29   you're not planning the other thing that I think the pencil does really well is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:33   precision editing so if you're if you're a photographer or if you're anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:37   who's doing any kind of film work or editing work audio work this is can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:43   really really hits like it's imagine the most precise mouse that you can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:48   that's really cool but yes if you don't if you're not doing those things than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   absolutely yeah and that might you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:54   very small sample survey of asking my wife who is a very and she loves her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4254">TS</a>]

01:11:00   iPad her iPad is our portable computer she has an ipad air one I guess so she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:05   due for an upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   I mean she uses it i mean just hours every day and so it's you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:13   perfect for her than 1.7 I was like do you think do you want the keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   she's like no way because she still you know she'll pick out text messages on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:20   the on-screen keyboard but she doesn't want a heavier cover she wanted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:24   white cover and she still used to user mac for if she really has like a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:29   email to write she goes to her mac sure and you want the pencil and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:33   what I use it for I was like I don't know she was like no I don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   pencil that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37   so it's you know I think and it but I like that it's just a sensible like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:41   you get or not get that you don't need to spend the extra 250 bucks on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:45   keyboard and the pencil if you're not going to use them and the answer is yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:48   but still that's a pretty you know it's not like you're saving money by getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:52   an ipad pro instead of a macbook I mean you know maybe compared to a macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:58   but you know you're still talking about a thousand-dollar thousand-dollar plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:02   setup which in the grand scheme of the industry is not that cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:07   no it's not it just depends on what you're using it for right because if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:11   if you don't if you don't have the intention of ever using the pencil I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:17   feel like four ninety-nine percent of people max probably going to be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:22   but if you need touchscreen accessibility or if you have any desire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:27   to work with the pencil the ipad instantly becomes a really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:31   exciting piece of technology especially good i want to tell you my face before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:36   forget I want to I want to get this out there is my favorite ipad pencil hack is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:40   take the cap and put it either throw it away or just put it somewhere but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:45   you're never gonna use it again and don't ever use the cap and instead use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:50   the little lightning adapter as the cap and I keep the little lightning adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:54   on the pencil at all times and that means that you can charge the pencil at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:58   any time either way you can either change charge it as a male or a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:03   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:04   time and fun it and I don't understand why it wasn't like this white why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:09   they're not encouraging that like the cap doesn't do any purpose other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:13   the cover the the protect the Lightning port right and instead they give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:18   little they give you this little adapter that you can use either way that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:22   that's a good heck i like that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:25   although to be honest I have never charged my pencil with anything but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:29   ipad in that we are like wacky configuration it just never because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:34   charges so fast with the ipad that I never even think like if i bring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:38   pencil somewhere and it's like five percent battery literally five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:41   get you twenty twenty-five percent charge which is kind of crazy to me when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:47   you can charge it the other way and it's if you have an iphone charger yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:50   it's already but then you have to find the wall right and it's like though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:54   beauty of the ipad set up to me is that as long as my iPads charged when i leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:59   the house I don't have to bring connectors you don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:03   it or do you just keep the keep the Lightning port exposed i have the cap on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:07   the someone on Twitter and I can't remember who it is now gave me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:12   amazing tip where the cap is magnetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   so it'll grab onto the to the smart magnets the Smart Cover magnets on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:20   iPad so when you take the cap off to plug in your to plug in the pencils for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:24   the ipad you just drop it on the ipad and it's actually really it's a fun game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:28   you can just drop it anywhere on the ipad it'll go and grab onto the Smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31   Cover magnets so that's my that's my and my my other ipad good i pad pencil hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:38   is by a two-dollar micron pen and then steal the clip off the micron pan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:43   then you can just slide it over the silver pencil so I have a nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:48   click there keep it from rolling too hmm two-dollar micron the stone so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:55   good that micron pens have like a clip that is the right sort of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:59   exactly the right size yeah right what would you call that the right sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:03   diameter yeah diameter or circumference 1261 1261 happens yeah exactly 6 1 pi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:10   times a different option option he there we go pison we have a theme for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:16   episode yeah uh I so the other one else is there to talk about with that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:23   ipad pro there's the display this is the thing I know Jason I talked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:26   last week and everybody's you can't not talk about it that now there is a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:31   like off-cycle pace to the ipad pros we're even though this one is six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:39   after the 12.9 inch one it has some technology that is clearly like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:46   entire generation ahead specifically with the display with the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:49   has the true tone feature for changing the color temperature of what's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:53   screen based on the ambient color of wherever it is that you're using it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:58   this new thing under them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   miss speak but more or less than it has a high it displays a higher gamut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:04   significantly higher gamut of colors what is that pc3 the same it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:08   color gamut is on the fork and 5k imax which is pretty neat it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:11   extremely need and I think all of this is going to cum everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:15   eventually oh yeah within i'm going to say like three years 23 years every mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:20   every iphone every ipad will have the high gamut and the true tone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:27   it's just it both of them are just remarkably it's mind-blowing Iran you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:31   know i see i don't know if you've ever get this John because you run your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   site and you're not really beholden to the publishing schedules but i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:38   occasionally do this thing on I'm our world I'm write a really good story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   I get so excited about like I was originally planned for say after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:45   weekend or its plan to like go live on Wednesday and I'm just like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   going to publish it now i don't care if it's 11pm tonight I'm just gonna just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:51   gonna go with it now and that's kind of what I feel like croutons on this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:54   this I fattest example being like we developed it and it's ready and we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:59   wait until the iphone 7 but you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:02   this will allow us to to get some bug's iron out while we figure out how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:05   works on the bigger screen and then we can bring it to the smaller screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:08   then we can bring it to the mac it will be great let's just launched it now guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:12   right get it is exciting right even if the fact is that it meant it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:16   makes for a very all ultimately i think that the two ipad pros will be little be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:21   like choosing between macbook pros we're really the main thing is that duh which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:26   size do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:27   yeah it was screen and maybe it maybe a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   I am and you know like in a way that the hard stuff right in the ways that like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:34   15-inch macbook pro outperforms the 13 inch ones biased by small degree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:40   like what you would you know it just seems intuitively well yeah of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:44   it's little little bit better technically but it's not like that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:49   all with that with the to ipad pros today it's the the district Walter yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:54   the display quality of the 9.71 and shit but it's just a vastly different and mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:59   John is incredible it's just the first time when I was setting up the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:04   there's the there's the button where it's like would you like to use true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:08   tone display and it's just a little blue button that's like with true tone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:11   then you press it and it turns on without your tone and I made a gif of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   because I'm just like this is so stop like I didn't even realize the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:17   was slightly orange and normally i'm very attuned to that stuff like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:21   couldn't use flux for years on my Mac because it would just drive me crazy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:25   this is much subtler than flux and even much subtler the night shift to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:28   certain extent it's just always very good very good i actually think that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:33   is confusing that it's shipped alongside night shift as an OS feature because to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:41   me they are no pun intended like night and day where night shift is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:46   dramatic effect and I I've made that definitely made more people who read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:52   daring fireball angry with my comments on night shift than anything we've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:55   recently because I'm out love the guy i've linked to numerous of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4735">TS</a>]

01:19:00   that are like Glenn fleischmann had a good piece that the science that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:04   that you get a better night's sleep because of this really is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:07   questionable whether people find it more comfortable for their eyes though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:12   that's completely subjective and I have friends who say all man i swear by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:16   i love it i love i've been using flux for years on my max at night and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:20   know how people work at night you know how you know I work hours and hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:23   every night work late into the night and it's all thanks to flux that my eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:26   don't get hard i believe that but that doesn't mean you're getting a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:29   night sleep it is now your eyes are less hard but if your eyes are less tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:33   like certain other things made through its its correlation me personally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:38   can't stand it i find that the color shifting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:41   gross but it's also very subjective i just it i just find it very gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:46   well I think whether or not you like the feature is one trying to get it whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:49   you like that feature not call it night shift in iOS or flux on your Mac it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:55   without question very very noticeable Perry whether you like it or not I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4795">TS</a>]

01:20:00   don't see how anybody could deny that it is a dramatic difference true tone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:06   the other hand while it sounds like it's doing the same thing it sounds like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:10   a similar idea where it's taking sensors and color temperature and just shifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:14   the color temperature in practice it is invisible when I think that you can hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:20   the nail on the head in terms of the sensors because night shift to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:24   knowledge is almost entirely it's geolocation and software-based yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:30   the actual like the range of the tone that's entirely changeable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:35   adjustable and settings so it really depends its user dependent where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:39   have to go in and shift like how blue or how warm do you want to see your display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:45   at night whereas true tone takes all of that away it's like do you want it on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:49   do you want it off and then just like it I keep finding out with true tone as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:54   use this ipad pro more and more i keep thinking like wait I have to I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:59   thinking myself you have totally overblown this feature because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:03   an it's not doing anything right now here it is it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:06   930 at night so it should be you know kicking in because the sun's down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:10   i'm using incandescent lighting and I can just tell looking at the screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:13   this isn't doing anything at all and then I take any one of my other devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:16   and look at it side-by-side sorry I'm like oh my god that is that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:21   disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:22   it's crazy and you're like how was I staring with this blue piece of crap but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:26   the more that I use it the more I convinced myself that it's not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:30   anything at all until I look at any of my other devices that don't have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33   side-by-side as she just how weirdly off all the white you know all the colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:39   are its it is a wonderful feature alright makes me it makes me so mad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:44   they hadn't perfected in November because that would have looked so pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47   on the 12.9 but I oh yeah that's that's the problem with releasing different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:52   sizes and different times they could have held the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:54   ipad pro launch until the spring um but because of this is probably where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:59   recycle bites them and other things they wanted to launch the ipad pro in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:03   November so they launched what they had and the smaller ipad pro as a result get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:07   some of the the niceties it gets the pc three it gets the true tone display the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:12   camera features i honestly think is just a yeah we can fit in a 9.7 inch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:17   there are people who are going to use their ipad pros cameras whether we tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:21   them to or not and also on the perfect the professional film side there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:25   cinematographers who say yeah a 9.7 inch screen is really nice for location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:29   scouting so it would be nice to have a 4k cameras like I get that I'm not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:33   heartbroken about not having a 4k camera on my 12.9 inch I ipad but god do i wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:40   i had to jump it soon as but it is a weird it's just again it's like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:44   i think you said it perfectly it's it's not like people have the 12.9 inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:49   pro are dying to have the better camera but it does seem weird now side-by-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:54   that the cheaper smaller one has a better camera than the more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:56   people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:57   yeah I means weird it is it is and it's probably component cheapness like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4977">TS</a>]

01:23:02   component parts falling after new year or something else like that or they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:07   didn't you know they couldn't fit it or the camera bump bottle my guess here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:10   my guess is that it was either they couldn't get them in September or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:17   just didn't want to take the chance because the it's the same camera system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:21   as the iphone 6s and 6s plus and that to make sure that they wouldn't hamper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:26   production of iphones they didn't want to put it and they just want to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:30   they either they knew they couldn't get enough of them or that they just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:33   want to take a chance of being a hiccup in the iphone supply chain i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:38   that especially pre-christmas it's just that it's a dangerous thing to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:42   right because that first quarter is just it's crazy how high stakes it is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:47   Apple because it's both the launch quarter and the holiday quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:50   oh yeah they I mean they crammed so much stuff in this past year and i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:55   thought last year was a little bit crazy but but this year they really just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:59   all right we got the phones we got the ipad we've got the appletv we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:03   gonna go we're gonna go we're gonna make it happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:06   the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:07   the 9.7 does not have and this is the the thing that I think ultimately will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:12   keep me from switching to it is the USBC quick charge was really nice being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:18   to use USB 3 being able to take advantage of that quick charge because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:22   the 12 volt adapter like I mean granted i rarely charge my iPad except overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:27   so I don't get a huge amount of use out of it but on the days when i'm like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:32   have cut audio audio and cut video on my iPad before and in those days i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:37   bring like my you the new USBC charger that I just got which was strangely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:42   shipped alongside the 9.7 inch iPad but 9.7 inch iPad not not able to use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:49   that thing that thing actually charges like a laptop charger like it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:54   makes the ipad actually have a have a charger that is functional whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:59   before like the 12 volt adapter trying to plug that into the 12.9 enjoy bed bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:03   it's like okay if you're plugging this in while you're working on it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:07   gonna see your battery drop to $MONEY percent ya think it doesn't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:10   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:11   it's it's fake you really kind of have to just sit there and wait now and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:15   find that it the ipads i do find one of the advantages of it and I i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:19   that the battery life estimates really the the published tech specs for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:24   battery life of these devices to me it it's misleading because i don't i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:29   way more battery life out of an ipad then the specs would show compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:34   the Act book and I think it's simply the I think it's simply the basis that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:37   actually I tend to run that stupid number of safari tabs at a time and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:42   have a stupid number of apps that are open at a time and so there's just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:46   going on as like a baseline cpu level on any of my macbook's compared to the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:52   which enforces this sort of mostly one app at a time thing and you know like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:57   far you can have a bunch of tabs open but only the frontmost tab actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:00   running anything i just get practically speaking if i start the day with a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:08   charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:08   I can't use the ipad enough to really run it down I just can't there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:12   I can seem to do and so I don't I'd sometimes I I wake up and I from its ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:18   let's use this ipad pro because i want to write this review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:21   I realize I haven't even charged in two or three days and the batteries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   functional right and the battery is kind of low because I just haven't plugged it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:27   in and days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   yeah which never ever happens with with other devices because it you just are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:32   vaguely aware that you know if you're doing a lot of work on a macbook you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:36   need to charge it at some point and same thing with an iphone throughout the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:39   but you just don't accidentally go three or four days without charging your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:43   no because it just it wouldn't work or your Apple watch but with the ipad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:47   actually it's possible it's very possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:49   yeah especially if you don't use it a hundred percent of this like the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:53   pro if you're using it like you use a laptop it's pretty normal to kill it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:58   kill like seventy-five percent of the battery on a on a full day as work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:03   if you're just using it you know like you do where you're using the ipad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:06   reading and maybe a little bit of writing and you're going on the go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:09   can you can get like three or four days of charge of that thing that's crazy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:14   it is true that the USB the super USBC charging on the ipad the big ipad pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:20   is a tremendous feature and once you've had it it's it's really it's one of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:24   another one of those things where once you've had on one device it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:26   hard to go back to any of your other devices and accept the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:31   takes seemingly forever to charge him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:33   yeah yep and and yeah because I do i do like a lot of the 9.7 inch I iPads like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:40   that the true tone is so beautiful and I love by the way i love that it turns off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:45   whenever you go into a photo editing program yeah I'm so it automatically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:50   automatically understands that which is pretty great but also i used an 11-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:56   macbook air for so long that I'm like nine point seven inches isn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5276">TS</a>]

01:28:01   that much smaller I could totally do work and after two weeks on this I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:05   just like I just like then the 12.9 screen so much better for like physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:11   like that the multitasking that just isn't the to ipad mini app side-by-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:15   just doesn't work for me on the 9700 group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:18   well I don't it doesn't work as well because it doesn't feel as much the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:22   that on the 12.9 it feels like two full safe and they're not quite full size but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:27   they feel like two full-size iPad side-by-side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:30   that the smaller ipad you don't get that small ipad is is bicycling a pill if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:34   you're trying to multitask anyway long story short I think it's a tremendous it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:39   device and I think people's anger had it is misplaced and I think it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:43   fascinating how true it is stayed to the original iPad idea from 2010 yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:52   and I said sometimes too it's a to its dismay i'm i'm really annoyed that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:58   stupid facetime camera is still in portrait orientation especially given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:04   the ipad pro moniker where your kind of you know you're pitching it on the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:09   that you're probably going to use it in a keyboard case for a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:12   time so if you ever use facetime or skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:16   your video is often weird to the side it's like one of my love such a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:21   pet peeve about the hardware but it's so irritating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:24   yeah it's I don't see what they have it that's a tough design problem though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:27   because other than putting a second facetime camera in at the other spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:32   I don't know what else they could do yeah yeah it's I mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:38   definitely it's difficult if you're assuming that people are going to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:41   to use it in portrait and with the 97 I get that a little bit more because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:46   97 is comfortable to use in portrait but the 12-9 is is so gargantuan in portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:52   but it just feels wrong to use it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:55   like it just doesn't it's not comfortable in any way shape or form and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5395">TS</a>]

01:30:00   you die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:01   I don't know but yet but you're absolutely right it's like you put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:04   cameras and then have extra space there do you kill the portrait orientation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:09   facetime camera and then make people who hold the 97 and portrait have an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:15   it goes back it again it's another thing that goes back to the originality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:18   well the original idea the original iPad had in prototypes had to 30 pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:23   connectors one that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25   slide 14 landscape and 14 portrait and it was decided so late in the game to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:32   get rid of it that the the coordinate system of the ipod was then called ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:37   OS was based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:40   landscape as the default orientation even though the day ended up shipping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:46   where the 30-pin connector was on the bottom because remember that will enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:50   and again like an upcoming full circle the original iPad had a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:54   keyboard accessory it was just instead of being like a cover it was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:58   like a little hard yeah ipad dock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:00   yeah and but you had to do you know the only way to mount it was to to put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:04   portrait which was little bit weird because you know I I'd you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:09   evidence by what they've ended up coming back to with the smart keyboard when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:15   do have a keyboard attached it makes more sense to be in landscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:18   yeah overall no I did it just feels more natural and yeah especially if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:25   multitasking because multitasking portrait just doesn't make sense right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:28   but it's just funny thing that they've that they've come back to but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:33   same way you can see why in theory you might want to have smart connectors on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:37   the bottom and the side but i can see why Apple but it didn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:42   yeah I alright let's take a break before we move on to new topics and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:47   anything else you want talk about with ipad pro no I think everything I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:51   gotten through most of it i encourage everybody to try pencils if they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5511">TS</a>]

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01:35:01   and a lot of ways and I do really like the 4-inch screen but I i my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:09   downgrade was going from the 6s plus to the success and i don't think i could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:14   from the 6s plus all the way to the iphone SE so since i published my review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5714">TS</a>]

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01:35:27   but it's that an outside on a sunny day the extra contrast of the newer displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5727">TS</a>]

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01:35:37   SES my main phone and wasn't super sunny but it was like a nice a nice April day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:42   in Philadelphia and I realized I couldn't read the phone and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:46   wow that's weird because i know that if i had my success i could read it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5746">TS</a>]

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01:35:56   it's harder to notice I to me indoors or not in the bright sunshine but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5756">TS</a>]

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01:38:29   really takes a good hard look about what the iphone 7 shape is gonna look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5909">TS</a>]

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01:39:06   that's the repair right or ordered even just brought in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/5946">TS</a>]

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01:41:44   always seem to develop a scratch on the screen at some point and i never once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:48   did I ever remember like when that happened it was just be like one day in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6108">TS</a>]

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01:41:56   sad but certainly I've never once had a scratch that i would even consider going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6116">TS</a>]

01:42:02   in and paying you know whatever the prices were to get a new screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6122">TS</a>]

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01:42:11   owning it i had two times where i dropped it and the screen cracked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:15   yep it's just hit those corners are a really hard to grip and be prone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:20   breaking because of that slightly wrapped glass it just doesn't it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6140">TS</a>]

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01:42:36   part of it might just be locked but it just seemed to me like having it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:39   happened twice and then you know now that was a year ago and then i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:43   using for the most part since then the same size phone either that that iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:47   6 or the you know in the last six months my success and haven't dropped that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6167">TS</a>]

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01:42:56   conscious of how conscientious may be the better word of how I'm holding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6176">TS</a>]

01:43:01   phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6181">TS</a>]

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01:43:10   and it just slipped adding and how it slipped out of my hand just slipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:13   right out of my hands like a bar soap and just fell straight down onto a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:17   carpeted floor and and there's again a store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6197">TS</a>]

01:43:21   and I thought is fine it's carpeted floor picked up no totally shattered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:25   that's that's the worst but I couldn't believe it that it wasn't like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:30   butter-fingered it it wasn't like I butter-fingered taking out of my pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:34   or something or while you were holding I was holding it and framing a photograph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:38   and as I tried to move my thumb to take the thing it just went shoe never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:43   happened with any previous iphone oh my gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:46   yep I yeah so I'm i am pro different form factor as pretty as this is I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:52   really like to not wrap my phone and a giant case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6232">TS</a>]

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01:55:14   no but i don't know i feel like i like it like for first teaser I'd rather just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:21   have it be one cool shot but for the whole teaser and that's it and then as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6921">TS</a>]

01:55:25   opposed to the kind of went the opposite way and try to show like a ton of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6925">TS</a>]

01:55:29   yeah they shouldn't so this is this is something that's interesting to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:33   that based this I mean this is the first visual we've really seen of rogue one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:37   about a year because last year we saw that that teaser one sheet of like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6937">TS</a>]

01:55:41   the the group standing together and based on everything I've read up about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6941">TS</a>]

01:55:49   rogue one up until the point where the teaser trailer was released my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:54   inclination was this was going to be oceans 11 and star wars are was where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:59   was supposed to be a heist movie right where it's basically like she gets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:03   team together and they build up everybody and then they go in and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6963">TS</a>]

01:56:06   might have to go undercover and it's not necessarily like jokey oceans 11 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6966">TS</a>]

01:56:11   it's that it's the same kind of beat and style and then this teaser trailer comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:15   out and the teaser trailer is almost the exact opposite of what i would expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:22   from a heist movie right you think you think about teaser trailers for heist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:25   movies right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6985">TS</a>]

01:56:26   you think about even any of the mission impossible trailers um where if I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6986">TS</a>]

01:56:32   carefully at the trailer you can kind of spot scenes or it's like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6992">TS</a>]

01:56:37   is from the place where they're getting the gang together and here's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/6997">TS</a>]

01:56:40   they're probably have to go undercover and you're running from Imperial yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7000">TS</a>]

01:56:44   here's where they're breaking into the unbreakable safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7004">TS</a>]

01:56:47   yeah exactly exactly but it's but it's told in such a different way and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7007">TS</a>]

01:56:52   curious about that i'm curious if it actually is a heist movie and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:55   just their teeth right now the tease is really were just teasing you about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7015">TS</a>]

01:57:00   main character and it's not even so much about the movie and that's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:04   reason of the cut is that our main character is you know our protagonists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7024">TS</a>]

01:57:10   is a fast-paced like I'm gonna you know either get into scrapes and be around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7030">TS</a>]

01:57:16   explosions and end up in a cross between inquisitors uniform and a TIE fighter my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7036">TS</a>]

01:57:22   outfit at some point I don't know it's it's interesting to me what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:28   story they're trying to tell and also i have lots of questions about the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7048">TS</a>]

01:57:32   character herself and how these standalone stories are supposed to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7052">TS</a>]

01:57:37   into the start of the greater star wars universe because i've had people argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7057">TS</a>]

01:57:40   on on both sides right I've had people argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7060">TS</a>]

01:57:43   oh well these are supposed to be entirely separate and they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7063">TS</a>]

01:57:46   more like you know dives into backstory and they don't involve the main the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7066">TS</a>]

01:57:50   plot at all but but then I look at the other standalone stories they have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:56   know slotted they've got the young soul of movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7076">TS</a>]

01:57:59   well don't I'm like started oh I know I know I know but but my thought is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:05   if they're going to tell these standalone stories that you know may or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7085">TS</a>]

01:58:09   may not revolve around major characters what's to say that whatever happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7089">TS</a>]

01:58:13   this movie know it may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7093">TS</a>]

01:58:15   you know directly be an installment of the force awakens sort of trilogy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:20   i'm i'm not entirely unconvinced that there's their stuff that's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:25   into this in this movie that's going to be very important in episode 8 episode 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7105">TS</a>]

01:58:29   not necessarily on a grand scale but you know stuff there's there's all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7109">TS</a>]

01:58:35   potential theories there and I feel like we would take three hours trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7115">TS</a>]

01:58:38   discuss them all because we took two hours uncomfortable i love the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7118">TS</a>]

01:58:42   calling it like Ocean's eleven in the star wars universe is exactly i if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7122">TS</a>]

01:58:46   that's what it turns out being even in some small just in a general direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7126">TS</a>]

01:58:50   that would make me very happy i think the trailer certainly doesn't suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7130">TS</a>]

01:58:53   that no trailer makes it seem like it's and I don't know that I hope it's not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7133">TS</a>]

01:58:59   just think i $FULLPHONENUM i just worry that there is a sort of that the trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7139">TS</a>]

01:59:05   is the teaser that we got is the result of a dysfunctional executive leadership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7145">TS</a>]

01:59:13   at the new Lucasfilm in disney that it's less about making a super awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7153">TS</a>]

01:59:19   trailer that that take star wars in the new direction and more about wait we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7159">TS</a>]

01:59:23   just made this great hit movie let's just make the most generic Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7163">TS</a>]

01:59:28   trailer we could do the footage we have because we you know we don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7168">TS</a>]

01:59:33   take any risks at all that I guess is to me what I i found a little disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7173">TS</a>]

01:59:39   in this is it to me it didn't seem like they took any risks at all other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7179">TS</a>]

01:59:43   the i will admit that the the although it to me it only continues a direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7183">TS</a>]

01:59:49   they started with the force awakens were clearly the protagonist is a woman not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7189">TS</a>]

01:59:53   man which is a significant change from traditional action movies and from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7193">TS</a>]

01:59:59   previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7199">TS</a>]

01:59:59   previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7199">TS</a>]

02:00:00   our Wars movies but I would almost say that that's after of the force awakens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:05   that's a lot less e they don't even get as much credit for the risk because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7205">TS</a>]

02:00:09   feel like that risk was already taken in the force awakens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7209">TS</a>]

02:00:12   mhm well they're continuing a story I have a lot of faith in Kathleen Kennedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:17   just as a as the head of Lucasfilm and her ability to put together a good team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7217">TS</a>]

02:00:22   but there is there is a minor worry on my part about what road one is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:26   look like because we think about traditional star wars trailers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7226">TS</a>]

02:00:30   traditional Star Wars movies right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7230">TS</a>]

02:00:32   your first trailer usually comes about a year out like I would have expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7232">TS</a>]

02:00:36   see the teaser attached to the force awakens right or it maybe even not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7236">TS</a>]

02:00:40   launch but like six weeks into the force awakens come see it again and now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7240">TS</a>]

02:00:44   robo-one teaser will be attached right family should hire you spread to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7244">TS</a>]

02:00:48   that's genius that would have gotten by its good marketing right I don't go a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7248">TS</a>]

02:00:52   second time just to see the 32nd 60-second spot up but if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7252">TS</a>]

02:00:58   traditional like medium budget movies a trailer of its first teaser six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7258">TS</a>]

02:01:04   out is not an unusual thing but for a Star Wars movie to not have a teaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7264">TS</a>]

02:01:09   until six months out it's it's almost crazy it's like this is your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7269">TS</a>]

02:01:12   trailer and you're still probably gonna have like another teaser and a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7272">TS</a>]

02:01:17   full-length trailers like you're getting really close to the wire and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7277">TS</a>]

02:01:20   sure if that's intentional on their part that they don't want to take they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7280">TS</a>]

02:01:24   want to pull too much focus away from the big the big movies the trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7284">TS</a>]

02:01:28   movies or whether there were some issues with rogue one where they had to do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7288">TS</a>]

02:01:34   innocent post-production story editing or things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7294">TS</a>]

02:01:37   I've been a little worried hearing like with the radio silence around it that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7297">TS</a>]

02:01:41   is it was like a story problem but I don't know I really don't like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7301">TS</a>]

02:01:45   that's the that's the thing right now is we have this one trailer and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7305">TS</a>]

02:01:50   original description of Road one and that one sheet and that's all we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7310">TS</a>]

02:01:53   about this movie and I i want to be tentatively excited because I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7313">TS</a>]

02:01:58   potential even if the trailer you know the trailer i think is some somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7318">TS</a>]

02:02:03   star wars and somewhat very not star wars in that the the visuals are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7323">TS</a>]

02:02:07   right too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7327">TS</a>]

02:02:08   the quick cutting may not be your style and it's not quite star wars style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7328">TS</a>]

02:02:12   either but the visuals look great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7332">TS</a>]

02:02:15   the brief moment of characterization that we have from basically gin and mon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7335">TS</a>]

02:02:20   mothma are really the only people who get more than a line or two in this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7340">TS</a>]

02:02:24   and a force Twitter wickers crazy character with the breathing apparatus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7344">TS</a>]

02:02:31   I what's with all the rest between mrs. i'm so curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7351">TS</a>]

02:02:35   well lots and lots of desert planets John I feel I feel like there's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7355">TS</a>]

02:02:39   some some issues with health there are like they don't show it but everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7359">TS</a>]

02:02:42   the star wars universe smokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7362">TS</a>]

02:02:44   yeah exactly they just don't show it on that's how you can get deal with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7364">TS</a>]

02:02:49   hazards of space vaping oh god um yeah I don't know jen is really interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7369">TS</a>]

02:02:55   me as a character i talked about it a little bit on on the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7375">TS</a>]

02:02:59   podcast but I i'm really curious if they're going to tie her into the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7379">TS</a>]

02:03:04   story like does she died before episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7384">TS</a>]

02:03:08   she's not she's obviously not in the rebels hanger like she's she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7388">TS</a>]

02:03:12   around and i don't know if you read any of the extended universe books but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7392">TS</a>]

02:03:17   one of my thoughts was well are they going to do a Mara Jade style thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7397">TS</a>]

02:03:21   where this you know this basically one of the prominent badass lady characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7401">TS</a>]

02:03:25   in the extended unit first books was was a character who you know was kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7405">TS</a>]

02:03:30   very gray for a long time and that the the possibility of telling a story like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7410">TS</a>]

02:03:35   a Star Wars story that's not light side and a dark side that is like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7415">TS</a>]

02:03:39   centers around a great character that that part really excites me and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7419">TS</a>]

02:03:45   kind of what the trailer seem to be flirting with was the idea of like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7425">TS</a>]

02:03:49   we're not we're not going to tell us a story about a grand arcade and Joseph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7429">TS</a>]

02:03:53   Campbell story we're going to tell a story about like the people who have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7433">TS</a>]

02:03:56   make the hard decisions who aren't you know who don't always get to stand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7436">TS</a>]

02:04:00   the side of light or the side of dark and no it's okay i'm excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7440">TS</a>]

02:04:06   I it's I I see where you're hesitant and I see where you're concerned but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:10   also i'm still kind of like there are a lot of potential good things here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7450">TS</a>]

02:04:14   doesn't make me pesum it makes me a little bit more pessimistic than it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7454">TS</a>]

02:04:18   but I was already kind of pessimistic about the move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7458">TS</a>]

02:04:20   but it did think that it's just disappointing because to me it wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7460">TS</a>]

02:04:24   great trailer to me a great trailer makes me similar to say i want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7464">TS</a>]

02:04:29   that movie today and rode one trailer did not do that for me at all it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7469">TS</a>]

02:04:33   kind of gave me and I can wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7473">TS</a>]

02:04:35   yeah I really like trailer alright alright well that's why you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7475">TS</a>]

02:04:39   have is good to have different exactly exactly exactly i know yeah I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7479">TS</a>]

02:04:43   you're allowed to not like the trailer and I'm allowed to like the trailer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7483">TS</a>]

02:04:46   I hope that the first real trailer is a little bit less cuddy i'm in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7486">TS</a>]

02:04:51   because you know they have all there's a lot of really pretty really pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7491">TS</a>]

02:04:55   scenes that look like they were being shot in the half a second that we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7495">TS</a>]

02:04:59   did you think it was weird that the death star seemed fully constructed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7499">TS</a>]

02:05:03   mean I didn't show it in a long shot they only showed like they should like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7503">TS</a>]

02:05:08   the dish put in so who knows maybe if you pull back and where it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7508">TS</a>]

02:05:13   good yeah there might still be like the bits and pieces we've seen in progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7513">TS</a>]

02:05:16   death stars before right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7516">TS</a>]

02:05:18   well I want and that makes me wonder how close are we to a new hope right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7518">TS</a>]

02:05:22   in a new hope the death star like the best star was close to fully operational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7522">TS</a>]

02:05:26   holiday was flying between planets it was shooting things so it may have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7526">TS</a>]

02:05:31   been one of those things where everything was built safe for the firing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7531">TS</a>]

02:05:35   dish or maybe they have to replace the firing wish I don't know there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7535">TS</a>]

02:05:39   so many so many opportunities for antics yeah all right anything you want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7539">TS</a>]

02:05:44   about this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7544">TS</a>]

02:05:45   hi you know what no I yeah I feel like we've we've covered we've covered good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7545">TS</a>]

02:05:50   things I'm oh I actually I saw speaking of Star Wars to close down Star Wars I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7550">TS</a>]

02:05:56   am i watch The Force awakens uh that behind-the-scenes documentary that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7556">TS</a>]

02:06:01   included with the with the itunes extras because of course force awakens is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7561">TS</a>]

02:06:06   dvd/blu-ray itunes etc everywhere in the US and I think the UK gets it later this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7566">TS</a>]

02:06:11   week and that was really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7571">TS</a>]

02:06:14   I just like good good documentary overall but the highlight of it is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7574">TS</a>]

02:06:19   show on they have a scene of like oh you know Harrison Ford is entering our model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7579">TS</a>]

02:06:23   of the millennium falcon for the first time and they there in the documentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7583">TS</a>]

02:06:28   they they clip or they could cut between finished clips of the movie and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7588">TS</a>]

02:06:33   behind-the-scenes of one this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7593">TS</a>]

02:06:34   all happening I and there's just this really nice moment where you start on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7594">TS</a>]

02:06:38   the the actual scene of Han like walking into the the cockpit of the Millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7598">TS</a>]

02:06:43   Falcon and doing the the smile and the self-satisfied like we're finally here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7603">TS</a>]

02:06:47   and then you cut to the behind-the-scenes and you see him out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7607">TS</a>]

02:06:51   frame he's pulled up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7611">TS</a>]

02:06:53   he's pulled two tiny little dice from his pocket and he hangs them up on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7613">TS</a>]

02:06:58   of the like higher switches in the Millennium Falcon's cockpit is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7618">TS</a>]

02:07:02   not big fuzzy dice like miniature versions of tiny fuzzy dice and hangs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7622">TS</a>]

02:07:06   them and that he sits down and smiles that I'm just like this is that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7626">TS</a>]

02:07:10   the true heart of Star Wars right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7630">TS</a>]

02:07:12   I personally wanted their word tiny little non fuzzy dice in the new hope I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7632">TS</a>]

02:07:18   think yeah I think that's all back to that exactly i think i think he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7638">TS</a>]

02:07:22   carrying around those tiny fuzzy dice for like 40 years and just brought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7642">TS</a>]

02:07:27   back alright i have not watched it on home video yet i've been saving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7647">TS</a>]

02:07:32   we still have a lot of contention in our household over over what happened that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7652">TS</a>]

02:07:37   all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7657">TS</a>]

02:07:37   oh oh oh yeah I i understand that that was very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7657">TS</a>]

02:07:42   we watched it last night for for Rick's birthday and it was definitely a it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7662">TS</a>]

02:07:48   definitely a contentious seen even the dogs don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7668">TS</a>]

02:07:52   oh yeah you did the thing where you watch with vba to write i did i did i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7672">TS</a>]

02:07:58   watched i watched bits and pieces with the with its it that's that right gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7678">TS</a>]

02:08:02   so chatty it's it's really funny to do it not as a like I wouldn't suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7682">TS</a>]

02:08:06   doing it if you really want to pay attention to the movie but if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7686">TS</a>]

02:08:10   to get a kick and while having it on in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7690">TS</a>]

02:08:13   bb-8 will talk pretty much non-stop about any scene that has him in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7693">TS</a>]

02:08:17   anything that has pode amber and it or anytime the characters make what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7697">TS</a>]

02:08:21   bb-8 thinks is a stupid decision you'll hear no no no landed and shake his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7701">TS</a>]

02:08:27   little head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7707">TS</a>]

02:08:28   super cute it's a pretty cool feature so anyway I'd long story short as if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7708">TS</a>]

02:08:32   have that little BBA toy that you can drive with your with your iphone if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7712">TS</a>]

02:08:37   watch the movie with that toy the bb-8 watches along with you in reacts its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7717">TS</a>]

02:08:43   duplicate you have to have the bb-8 in its base because the battery and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7723">TS</a>]

02:08:46   have to have your phone plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7726">TS</a>]

02:08:48   and the app open which is like the dumb part but still pretty fun them all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7728">TS</a>]

02:08:53   Thank You serenity people can find all the serenity they want on Twitter whats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7733">TS</a>]

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02:09:06   didn't word and your work at I more.com so my thanks to you my thanks to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7746">TS</a>]

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02:09:22   talk to you soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7762">TS</a>]

02:09:24   yeah thanks very much for having me thank you something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz4zlVQ/7764">TS</a>]