00:00:03 ◼ ► the incomparable number 244 April 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► Snelling we're here for another edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/16">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► of our comic book club we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/17">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► about to limited series 414 Marvel one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/19">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► mid-nineties ish both feature art by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► alex ross I I stopped reading comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/28">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► thought like suddenly all other comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► were just about a a pale imitation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► the greatness that was watchman and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► also what was going to college and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► wanted to pretend that I wasn't act like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► didn't know the detailed history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/51">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► everybody was in the x-men so I in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► mid-nineties i discovered marvels on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► bookshelf at a at a bookstore on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► shelf and I saw it and I thought oh wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/60">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► that looks really cool I'm i bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► and that was essentially my reentry in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► very slowly but that was my reentry into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► the comics world and a year or two later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/68">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► I saw kingdom come on the understand at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/69">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► a bookstore and we had bookstores they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► were still in business back in the 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/75">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► century and uh and i bought it two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► was a it's a very different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► story from Marvel's but also really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► interesting same art obviously in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► this is alex ross or at least the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► artist and a story the likes of which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► did not expect from DC comics so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► these are really interesting books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► are from other of a time and their of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► artist and I think they're worth talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/98">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► about and you can pick them up and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► them because they're self-contained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► introduce the people who are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► talk about this stuff with me tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/107">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► Lisa Schmeisser of course always here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/108">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► hi it's a pleasure to be here all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► have a big big crowd for this comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► club which is great chipset earth is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► hi Jason hi Lisa hi everybody this hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/120">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► Jon boy Monty actually also out there hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/125">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► ok let's see if we can do this Moises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► I'm boys is Jason how are we going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► handle all of the truth and justice in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► these comics I I can't handle the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► but if it can happen justice stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► that's okay and and who did I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► perhaps it's erica inside maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/148">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► confirmed it is Erica and sign hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/155">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► hello I'm happy to be here and be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► non-expert comic book reader that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► that you know as i read kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► and I realized that the footnotes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► understand a single one of them i had 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► haven't noticed there's there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► set of annotations for kingdom come if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► you want to read it there's somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/176">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► is painstakingly detailed every panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► against every sick so you can get every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► single one of the younger the easter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► eggs give you one example that why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/185">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► there a giant penny in the Batcave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► well there's a reason i don't care what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► the reason is there's a reason reversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/191">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► that was easy it's sugar and spice being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► in a panel that doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► one of the biggest arguments for in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► annotations is without them I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► have realized that zan and jayna are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► waiters at at the local superhero dive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► bar or that the village people became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► and superheroes looking at my 1997 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► vintage trade paperback of kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► doesn't all these these footnotes you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► talking about on the internet you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► yeah you're deciding between your screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► and and you're in your trade paperback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► marvel's house wives yeah yeah yeah its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► current electricity you really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► nerd out I'm I'd and I don't he said I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► probably about five gasps yes indeed one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► of the reasons I picked these books for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► the comic book club is because to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► they're kind of the flip side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► same question which is what does it mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/241">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► superpowers drill and immortal people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► tackles this theme from the angle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► responsibilities as a superpower being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► who are you accountable to and marvels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► tackles it from the angle of what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/257">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► your rights and responsibilities as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► human being when literally the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► generation of sentient beings to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► the earth is is busy bursting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/265">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► flames or or or being x-men or being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► spider-man all around you so yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► first time you mentioned both is a crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/272">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► protective well there's a lot there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► lot of systematically similar about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► but there's enough about their approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/280">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► that's just different enough because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► of the things i find fascinating about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► is how heavily weighed in ross mind back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► catalogues and use them to create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► whole raft of new characters and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► they essentially invent like a third of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► essentially invented a whole cloth with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► them extrapolating at these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► had kids without this is what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► whereas in Marvel's it's kind of a love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► letter to Marvel's creative history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► and it ends on I find actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/309">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► Oh seriously yeah it's it gives you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► if you read the two of them like kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► comes this real catharsis and and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► end of it you can almost see like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► freeze frame and then some nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► eighties ballot will start the credits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► begin to roll but like Marvel to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► last two pages and like whole whoa yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► this this is happening that's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► implementing of the place that both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► publishers were when these things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/335">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► coming out DC has always been you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► the the gods among us the hall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► marvel's always been grounded in reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► grounded in New York and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► that so in in in these comics you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► Marvel's which is all which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/353">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► human humans I've you story and Kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► Come which is a little bit less so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► because we've got a lot more scenes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► those superheroes and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► so I i see them as representing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/366">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► each company was trying to do with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► comics at the time just done in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► amazingly heightened way that only alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► ross can do I mean he's the norman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► rockwell of comics let's start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► Marvel's and we'll talk about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► these both intern marble marble skirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► music music music music rai ziac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► will conquer Kurt which its promise okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► k stands for quality they busiek and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► Ross made this this this story that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/399">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► beautiful piece of art i would say for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/403">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► essentially it's a retelling of some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► the core stories from the early years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► the marvel universe as seen through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► eyes of a photographer or I of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/419">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► photography I later at yes uh of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/423">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► photographer through the lens Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► pictures of superhumans and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► creates a book of his photography called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► Marvel's group whose cover is a mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► image of the cover that we have on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► trade paperback of Marvel's this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► four-issue miniseries from Marvel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► retelling of these major milestones from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► the initial emergence of the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► marvel heroes before the marvel universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► Submariner to the emergence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/457">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► Fantastic Four the x-men and spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► the appearance of Galactus all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► through to the death of Gwen Stacy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► it's very much about continuity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► comic book history but the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► weaving all of these wild superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► stories together in art that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► very realistic and with a with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► viewpoint always being that of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► humans the normal humans who are living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► in this in this outsized world and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/486">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► think i think we should we should start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► there I I anybody let's let the artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► thing that drew me to it I caught my eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► I flipped through it and i bought it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► I read it and it is it is beautiful i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► mean i don't know the history of alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/502">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► ross although I i can spot his work now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► because it is alex ross once you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► developed by for roster like oh wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/510">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► spectacular and and his takes on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► Marvel these classic marvel heroes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► like the fact that all i knew it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► enough about marvel that I knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► these stories were and I could recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► the people a but you know only the broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► strokes and then he's telling us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► perspective one of the things I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► love about the art is how insanely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► period-specific he is because he moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► all the way from the late thirties to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► and he's following the same group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► characters and you can see the clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/543">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► begin to shift over time since you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► see how hairdo shift the protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/546">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► wife especially they do a wonderful job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► moving her from being a war bride to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/550">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► polyester pantsuit cloud housewife of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► the nineteen seventies and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► plausible and it's believable and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► can see the ghost of the woman she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/561">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► in the thirties and forties so I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► that are one of the biggest easter eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► in my opinion in his art is if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► at gwen stacy it seems to be modeled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► after the actress Sheryl Lee and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► yeah it's laura palmer and there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► of Laura Palmer image imagery especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► when she's got the water following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► hundred face and she's smiling and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► on the world and what I always enjoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► how seamlessly he he weaves in people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/585">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► inspired by and how he can age people up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► to age them down and put them in a wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► variety of different situations it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► just a beautiful book to look at you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► Edwin Newman in there a one-point which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► also makes me laugh NBC News anchor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► Edwin Newman I one of the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► i find fascinating about marbles is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► know that they have this is sliding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► comic-book continuity Marvel's premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► is when the comics written is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► yeah and so it is a locked in time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/614">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► they all emerged in the sixties 45 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► set the Submariner and one regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► originally namely the timely comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► right you're 30 and 40 and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► have to America story from world war two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► and then everything else from the marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► universe was in that the Lenalee Kirby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► did coke period in the sixties and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► forward forward into the early seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► and that's the so it's all period piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► which i really like i like the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► they're like this is when the stories to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► economy exactly we're gonna tell it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► like it is and in the in the back matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► he a music it imagines that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► this is all happening simultaneously and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► realized he could weave this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► together as if it was all happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► simultaneously which is kind of a neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► neat trick but anyway that not not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/662">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► not to derail what you were saying Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► but i just-i I think the period detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► is fantastic and and the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► based on when these stories were told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► stories happening in the sixties not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/675">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► something like they could have been I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► think that's really important actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► and it reflects it actually reflects the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► way marvel comics was back when these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► stories were being produced because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► sliding timescale came in later and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/691">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► storytelling in real time Peter Parker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► a sophomore in high school when amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► fantasy comes out and then a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► years later he's graduated from high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► school in real-time practically and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► somewhere along the way I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► decided that it's time to get it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► to go with the simpsons model it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/716">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► to say that everything that fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/717">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► four number-one happened 10 or 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► ago regardless of wind right but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► your point your point is great Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► that this is this is a love letter not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► only to the old Marvel stories but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► the way the old Marvel stories were told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► something important historically in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► the world of music is that this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► really his big breakout work as a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► he had been an editor for Marvel writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► for Marvel Age which is something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► love picking up back issues of when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► was a kid and in in doing the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► the research for this project I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► foundationally a lot of what he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► bring to other projects like his runs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► Avengers and various things that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► saved from the clutches of the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/766">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► financially a lot of as big of a comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/771">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► lovers he already was feelin Marvel's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► a historical project is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► really they're really opened up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/781">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► possibilities what he would be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/785">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► editorial roller marvel it's easy to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► but both of these things but especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► marvels is it's a love letter continuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► you could you could even do ride it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► being continuity porn it is literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► like what if we stitched everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► together and sew it all happen at once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/801">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► but the great thing is you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► know all the cognitive it stands by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/804">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► not so sure about that it's got great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► bones though because so many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/810">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► classic panels turn out to have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► pictures he took yeah that's true it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► a beautiful conceit right having of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► this be the chronicler of the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► Universe and him having these amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► shot those are great moment where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► scoffs at Peter Parker the stupid kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► photographers yeah yeah yeah stupid mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► pictures that's better than a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► oh yeah he rolls his eyes at youngjae [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► jonah Jameson for saying when i run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► bugle yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah so Erica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/835">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► had you read this before and do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► much background in the stuff for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/842">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► celebration of continuity from a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► of not really knowing the continuity got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► that last one yeah it was ok so so tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► me about that i've read a very few very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► few issues of things in the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► Universe but i think it was that must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► have been all stuff that was either not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► included here after this because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► i read some powers and yeah this is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► all of alias which i loved i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► i think this story essential with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► than the last couple of pages the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► essentially ends with Gwen Stacy guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/873">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► that's like what 1974 something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/874">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► if it's your only off by maybe a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► yeah it is really it's the early to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► mid-70s oh it's a long time ago when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► so whatever the day three so what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► you know you can't live in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► States for most of your life without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/892">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► picking up and kind of knowing who some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► of these characters are so I had heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► of the human torch and I know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► Fantastic Four is a thing but i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► idea who those four are or what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► of course that's fantastic though we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► we'll which human torture you told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► yes there's the originally they were due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► to human torch's well I know about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► previously i had heard the words human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► and torch put together but that's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► so you didn't notice that there were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► fact two different human torch's just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► Marvel's this is true home meet okay not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/926">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► beginning is not the same as the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► who's in the Fantastic Four believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► and I guess I didn't even really catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► ok now it's coming back to me that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/941">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► was a human torch in fantastic four so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► so Erica doesn't did this story makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► sense at all did it was a pocket of to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► you or was it just like a i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► curious or ordered it being no sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► was kind of pointless so what how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/953">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► you get out of it it made great sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► i I've totally understood i I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► know that I didn't catch every last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► little bit and piece you guys got way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► more depth out of it than I did but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/963">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► beautifully told story and it's got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► thing that I just love even if i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► know a property I still sometimes just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► like dipping into the celebratory works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► of that property so anniversary special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► of something like when I was young and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► watching the five doctors i had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► about most of the stuff that happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► the thing 25 years prepped for 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► previous to that but i still really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► the heck out of it because it was clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► that there is a bunch of history that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/993">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► interested in a work so i could tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► that there were plenty of gaps in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► knowledge but it was just this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► sort of nostalgic hug to marvel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► general and that just it made me feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► warm and fuzzy like i was i was coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► into something really late but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► something where everybody is celebrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► and I just wanted to be in on the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► well I'm coming from that at this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► almost the exact opposite perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► when i was when i was really in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► Marvel Comics I was painfully into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► marvel comics I was a footnote reader i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► was a subscriber to marvel saga Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► basically text pieces with isolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► panels that tried to tell the history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► every single marvel comic ever produced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► chronological order so i should be prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► I should be the prime audience for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► Marvel's because it basically is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► recovered somewhat uh it's yeah I I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► not I did not see I did not seek out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► I'm rereading them and I remember how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► much I used to care about the cottony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► continuity details of the submariners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► latest attack on New York and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► like that and i think that Marvel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► probably relies on that continuity a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► I didn't get the same nostalgic feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► that Erica had I was I was like okay I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► a little separated from this stuff now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► is this hitting me emotionally and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► didn't quite so much anymore and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► it relies a little bit on that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► love the Marvel Universe more than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► should interesting so it don't tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► more about that i mean i hit me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► right where I think I feel like I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► just enough without knowing enough with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► the footnote details that it just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► of washed over me and I felt that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► kind of warm fuzzy feeling is Erica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► where I'm like oh yes these are like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► konechno Galactus and spider-man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► Gwen Stacy and all of that without like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► marinating in the details a minute maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► maybe it's just because I knew too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► and I was embarrassed by it because if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► had forgotten that I knew who Betty Dene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► was Betty Dene the girlfriend of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► Submariner back in the day and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► shows up again and I remember and I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► embarrassed that I know who she was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► I'm embarrassed that I'm being fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► no no I i had Jerry you chip no III is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► not being a comic book fan is I i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► amazed at at the level of detail I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► annotations which are out there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► search for Marvel's annotations because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► they're actually footnotes in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► and there is a marvel sanitation don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► Google the marbles annotation on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► internet challenges it's a terrible it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► like worse than the one that's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► book there's like yeah I guess there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► some stuff from the old Marvel honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► have no idea what's going on so I come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► on Marvel fans up your game a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► but but the footnotes and marvels pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► good but they're both wrote that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► is a layer to both of these things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► is going to reward the gigantic nerd who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► remembers all that continuity and knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► that oh that's a reference to that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► i think that's one of the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► about both of these is can they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► enjoyed as works on their own air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► it seems to say yes oh and and what ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► says I almost am starting to wonder now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► if they can be enjoyed more if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► know too much about them versus not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► enough which is make sorry to maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► maybe there's a middle ground actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► maybe maybe it works for Erica because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► minutiae maybe it works for somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► who's still marinating it in it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► there's me sort of in this ambivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► middle stage and i'm having trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► following the story of Phil Sheldon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► all that stuff because I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► engaging with this continuity that used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► to be important to me and it's not if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► middle middle ground I discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► Marvel's in 1994 as as a youth as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► yeah you know one of these miscreants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► youths it's historically in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► Marvel events and cool things and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► it follows the trilogy of infinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► crossovers Infinity Gauntlet definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► infinity war infinity crusade and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► getting heavily into comics around then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► and confused by a bunch of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► stuff i like some of it and other parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► of it drove me totally crazy and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► when I got to Marvel's there was stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► that rang a little bit familiar there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► were bits and pieces of things I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► know I knew who the Submariner was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► didn't know that much about him I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► he existed and he had wings on his feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► and a super-powered speedo I knew about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► characters that that show up but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► there were others like I i eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► figured out and I was confused at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► too i thought there was just the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► human torch but no there were two human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► torch's and then I wanted to know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► this first human torch i never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► about and I want to know about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► character in that character that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► never heard about and it was also get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► this itself was alex ross his big break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► into comics coming from a background of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► the mother is a commercial artist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► himself admiring the living daylights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► out of people like George Peres who by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► 44 work on on both the both the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► actually at that time I think was mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► DC stuff it would come later that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► big Marvel Avengers stuff would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► that burning rights and he was big fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► of bernie wrightson to he was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► influenced by both the commercial art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► Norman Rockwell side of things as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► as the pop art comic-book sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► and in the way that this red introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► a a different feel for comics language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► that people were used to wear it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► lineart with splash color and here there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► is there is this greater the depth to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► painterly quality to it that I just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► never seen I hadn't read Watchmen at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► yeah it had been out for almost 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► comic-book form and I think this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► it was this around the time that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► Scott McLeod's understanding comics came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► out I think it's a little earlier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► that that was no understand comics was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► 93 so this is what a cone or is Right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► actually this was 94 94 was Marvel so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► this is just the year after and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► remember I remember rather clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► around the same general hazy time in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► past discovery marvels and Kingdom calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► and understanding comics all in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► breath and I was then then I I gained my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► full powers as the nerd in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► saying no there is a greater level at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► which comics can tell stories that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► like AP comics is what you did there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► just said to the entire curriculum for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► AP comics Advanced Placement common sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► i read this stuff about how mark waid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► who wrote the other one studying comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► character back stories and righting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► himself file cards as a kid and he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► these no card boxes full of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► he actually pulled from with his new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► shield series that's out there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► found myself doing a less dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► version of that mark was the a student I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► ok so I the effort for me it it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► engendered this hunger for finding out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► who all these characters were and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► didn't have the benefit of footnotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► with either one of these so it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► of limited to what I could find at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► comic shop or what I could ask the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► with the ready ponytail to show me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► well I don't know if you really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► read the half and then you'd actually go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► pull off the shelf or so for me what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► is I think what did as somebody who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► sort of stopped reading comics is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► it allowed me to let go of the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► of the you know ins and outs of we of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► frustrated me and take a step back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► look at the bigger picture of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► iconic stories these things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► just part of the if you read Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► Comics part of the kind of collective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► everybody knew Galactus you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► fantastic 4 etcetera etcetera everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► knew back when Stacy and it all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► sort of it happened in the past but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► portrayed like this it actually made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► realize that I had a great deal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► affection for this stuff and even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► i had sort of put aside and said no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► I'm not gonna do that stuff anymore it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► made me rediscover our a reservoir of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► love for comics that i didn't realize i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► still had it for the end for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► stories and for the the big picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► it and i think that's how it impacted me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► I wanted to ask all of you about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► the idea behind marvels is at its core a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► human's I view of super super humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► what was it like to be a person watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► a world where we're super people walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► the earth and on that level I I find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► fascinating there that that's that shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► of Galactus towering over the city on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► that on that is that it's a single i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► not sure if it's a single or spread but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► it is a spectacular piece of art that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► yeah well is just uh amazing and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► that there's a spread with the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► fire in the sky is Galactus arrives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► they don't understand what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► and there's yeah it's a single page of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► just Galactus towering over everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► and you know in my mind that is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► Marvel's is about it is about wee wee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► all the other comics take the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► characters being super humans marvels is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► about the humans looking at the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► humans and and an army in our main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► character loving them and following them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► and eventually kind of as some of us do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► when we read comics for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► getting tired of them and feeling sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► of disaffected like they've seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► story before I I you know I i I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► fascinated by Monty you have you you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► been you've been kind of quiet you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► any thoughts about the humans I view of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► Marvel's that's what i think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► coolest part of Marvel's is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► portrays will try to portray what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► like to live in a world where a you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► having to rebuild the city all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► because as soon as one gigantic threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► from outer space it is pushed away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► another one shows up and I like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► favorite part in it is the moment when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► the narrator whose name I can't pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► right now Phil then I love a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► Sheldon will just when the sheldon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► explaining why his marbles book should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► be published which is see how excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► everybody here in New York is to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► imagine the people in peoria never see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► this at all right and is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► picture a world where you're seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► superheroes all the time I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► really interesting and it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► heard music went on to do i think even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► more interestingly in more detail with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► Astro City there's a there's a page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► where in the background there there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► think it might even be when he's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► to the editor who's sort of turning him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► down to the book it but definitely there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► are there are a few of these things wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► out the window there are just flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► people passing by like on their way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► somewhere or to a fight or fighting or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► whatever but it it it's somewhat subtly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► simple message that this is a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► where you know you look at your window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► and there's people flying by because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► there are super people everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► yeah and I just like say that although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► think Alex crosses are is beautiful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► i can't imagine how long this thing took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► aight with every panel being an oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► sometimes I feel like his art is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► little static like it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► look like people are moving but here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► photographer's view right yet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► supposed to be a still shot of giant man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► posing up there right since he uses so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► much photographic reference which if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► get the trade paperback you can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► examples of it it does feel sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► like you're watching you know it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► yeah and if you talk about scott mccloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► I mean there's the the idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► impression of movement between panels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► and in this I think you're right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► works because this is a story about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► still photographer and so yeah sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► the conceit is you know we're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► still moments from dynamic if they ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► and there's also this heightened not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► sort of heightened realism more so than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► in kingdom come on if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► superhero costumes in Marvel's you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► all the wrinkles yes my name is Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► amateurish which makes kind of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► it's a teenager who sewed his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► costume and things like that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► something about this art that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► just static but it is almost hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► representational yeah and I sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► want that and sometimes I want you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► Bruce Timm or mike pair of X Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► adventures you know that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► simplicity the other end of the scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► mccloud spectrum but for this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► yeah I feel like his art is beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► not necessarily dynamic but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► I do feel in kingdom come could stand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► be a little more dynamic it still looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► like they're posing have been here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► me and it helped to help to ratchet up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► the nostalgia factor because in a way i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► felt like i was looking through a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► album the history of the life of Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► it really is a genius concede to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► through the eyes of photographer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► it's so perfectly fits the style of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► art and the composition of the frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► it's it's just a lovely way to reinforce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► that all the way through it also does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► great job of covering the fact that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► sequential art work of you know of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► scale or anything anything remotely this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► epic in scope you know beyond a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► bit of work that he had done and I I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► know call me controversial the arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► beautiful controversial am you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► thank you thank you i will accept my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► plot its its its iconic and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► that that number of us are pointing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► is it's not particularly dynamic there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► are some really amazing shots within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► this their memorable but looking back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► it and i've ever visited a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► times over the years there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► very few bits that really are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► indelible in my mind there more of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► i would say with kingdom common as time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► there's still the painterly the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► snapshot kind of field to the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► his visual storytelling works but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► know it does evolve and get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► more dynamic a little bit more to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► sequential are moving you forward much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► more pronounced and stuff like Earth X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► number of years later but if if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► i have my friends who say oh man alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► ross i just wish Alex Ross would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► everything I don't I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► very specific type of storytelling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► his art is very beautifully attuned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► like this like these massively oversized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► single prestige edition things that DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► did they did one for Superman they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► didn't refer Batman they do refreshes am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► that is some of the best shows Mr that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► they did a really great Wonder Woman 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► i think there might have been one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► this I think is is a great encapsulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► of if if this type of storytelling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► good for you then the things that alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► ross art is on is the sort of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► you can take but i don't think any of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► can can really necessarily go man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► remember entire pages of this art the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► way that we do something with dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► gibbons are from watchmen well I can but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► you only a pet only because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► panels that's an entire page that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► happen to like that panel right like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► I don't know I've had a lot of effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► kingdom come a few times and so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► explicitly just because the imagery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► struck me one way around here I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► I'm saying Marvel specifically well not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► the giant man shot i think but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► that's because it's a giant panel hug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► when Stacy holding her face up yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► right to the in the rain with her hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► up around her up its that's and just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► quality of life in that panel is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► practically translucent and every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► see it I'm just struck and how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► managed to capture the experience of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► yeah that though the ones that he sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► giclee prints for a giant pile of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► at San Diego of like those though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► they're there much fewer of those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► morals than there are in kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► Marvel's every panel is essentially a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► cover and the kingdom come I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► he dialed it back a little bit and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► a little more it feels a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► actually think maybe I prefer it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► think Marvel is the perfect place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► the whole idea of Marvel's is everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► is happy that is happening that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► showing you is iconic this is the photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► that's exactly right of that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► mention by the way that there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► there's that scene where Phil is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► Daily Bugle office and spider-man climbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► up the outside the building and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► that's the moment where you see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► close up and he's got the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► wrinkly outfit and I remember that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► the first time after years of reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► spider-man from when I was a little kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► that I thought experiments costume is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► kind of weird because like this is at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► realistic depiction of it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► problematic and I remember thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► this very panel when I went and saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► toby mcwire spider-man in 2002 and end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► and noticed how they tried to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► how you depicted actual human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► wearing the spider-man costume because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► it's kind of hard and it is kinda not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► again that's why i like the x-men was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► like we'll put them in leather jackets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► forget about the costumes and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► really worked for me in that Bay in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► which is kinda fast because it's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► textures and physics to these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► that were so totally not that and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► why I think Marvel's work so well as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► comic book entirely composed of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► interesting mood things that he did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► was the first time that I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► seeing the x-men and finding them kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► of terrifying and they were directed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► monsters all me yeah i mean that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► glowing red devil Hugh who in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► appearance of the x-men in Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► signers never look creepier than marble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► yeah and that valuable because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► always thought that's one of the weakest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► parts of the x-men that they're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► world with the Fantastic Four and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► superheroes and spider-man but mutants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► are feared yeah what do you care if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► guys a mutant or got it from cosmic rays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► yeah it for us the comic reader it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► the the anti-mutant hysteria and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► absolutely nonsensical and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► that's I think that's part of the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► a story the characters look exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► same unless you get the until they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► bathed in the light and all that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► was your backstory tell you did you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► bitten by something with their array of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► some sort or were you just born this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► if you're born this way we hate you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► it was a ray you're fine it's fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► then I think that Marvel's did a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► good job of under of explaining why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► people are feeling that way with her gut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► reaction because if it's a genetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► change those mere be clearly the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► yeah they're going to be taking over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► world whereas if it's just a good old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► you know he was being got some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► superpowers they're going to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► other human beings with there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► one of us in an amazingly gutsy thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► that music does in this story is he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► phil Sheldon pick up a brick and hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► Iceman and has with Elijah he is he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► part of his part of the right i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► that scene happens and x-men like one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► 2i might be imagining that but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► he's done like a flash man where he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► pre-existing seen i'm pretty sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► is the case the memory is fuzzy but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► sounds right and she and feel shame for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► Sheldon is no saint in this in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► story not like not like Norman McCay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► Shelton is literally every man he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► his good parts bigotries Sheldon has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► have to make peace with the fact that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► was a big it out of fear at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► yeah yeah I i do enjoy a lot the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► that they find a the mutant girl and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► they take her in and then the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► she then runs off that was hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► yeah she's not a famous character or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► anything so you don't know what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► excellent story from the nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► sixties i believe and unfortunately i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► can't remember if the story ends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► the child killed by a mob and the x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► get to her too late or if they rescue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► her in the nick of time but that child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► that was in the basement is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► meant to be a famous mutant type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► and and obviously an analogue for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► civil rights movement at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► to where the question is what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► people persecuted child just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► Maggie mutant has a has a has a page on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► has a wicked Marvel wikipedia Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► wiki page lyrics so apparently we did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► did she did she did have other adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► after she left those buildings a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► basement the adventures of Maggie the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► mighty mutant yeah i don't think coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► after secret wars 2015 now exactly uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► the the one thing that i read into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► story and I don't know how intentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► commentary over the years about the than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► day that Gwen Stacy died being a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► turning point for Marvel and Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► publishing and I see the I read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► story as a bit of a criticism of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► the comic-book storytelling has gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► since the time of the marvels Gwen Stacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► dies that breaks Phil shelled and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► he's through he's through with Marvel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► and through that and then this wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► last page where he where he encounters a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► nice normal ordinary boy Danny catch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► who is one of the most aggressively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► commercial and if you take our pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► with young mr. catch here a nice normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► ordinary boy that's actually pretty darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► cutting yeah no that's nice but I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► it up I was like I bet that kid ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► being something horrible i looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► that okay yeah i'm a big fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► garage of meaningless cameos yes my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► favorite to our bill lumpkin who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► laying around willy lumpkin the mailman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► and ask for yeah he's great he's dating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► Phil's girl when phil has could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► reluctance to marry in a world with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► Marvel's and so I guess you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► going to waggle this year's I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► stupid Willie lumpkin I just love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► they went to the trouble of calling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► guy out and also for some reason Popeye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2444">TS</a>]
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00:41:00 ◼ ► there are there a couple of follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► pieces that I i I'll of mentioning this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2462">TS</a>]
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00:41:16 ◼ ► warren ellis does everything he destroys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2476">TS</a>]
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00:41:27 ◼ ► a to issue thing that was basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► parody of Marvel's Phil Sheldon's back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2493">TS</a>]
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00:42:05 ◼ ► Marvel so much ruins just ruins it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2525">TS</a>]
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00:42:15 ◼ ► proper quote-unquote sequel featuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► the art of uh a painter style artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► that i'm a big fan of from books that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► worked on that I'm sure that if i look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► back on them now they're probably was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► not much substance in there at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2547">TS</a>]
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00:42:32 ◼ ► camera again written by Kurt music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► again Phil Sheldon is back with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► vengeance and so care about Phil Sheldon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2558">TS</a>]
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00:42:50 ◼ ► to find out what happened Aggie know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► care more about fulfillment i do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► uh-huh mhm I want to take a moment for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2578">TS</a>]
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00:43:03 ◼ ► dark world full of spam viruses bounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► email this is the world of kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► oh and also our world let's also imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► a world without spam viruses or bounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► email this is the dream of Phil Shelton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► in Marvel's maybe but if he is dreaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► that he's dreaming about mail route who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► is sponsoring this episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2605">TS</a>]
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00:43:33 ◼ ► from reaching your inbox indeed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2613">TS</a>]
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00:43:50 ◼ ► or viruses or bounced email pulls all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► that stuff out and then delivers only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► the legitimate email that you want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► need to receive to your mail server and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► then into your inbox traffic and load on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2639">TS</a>]
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00:44:17 ◼ ► desktop user from the interface to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► checking on what spam I didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2662">TS</a>]
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00:44:59 ◼ ► alright let's let's move on talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2699">TS</a>]
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00:45:03 ◼ ► out there i am somebody who is vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► aware of DC mythology and read some DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► comics but I was always much more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► Marvel guy and so coming up on kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► come as i did I thought well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► this looks cool you know thumbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► through it at Barnes & Noble or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► and i bought it and I realized as i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► that there were so many layers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► reference to characters that I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► nothing about but I knew the basics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► enough sort of like what erica was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► saying about about marbles I knew enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► about Superman Batman Wonder Woman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► Green Lantern the flash and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► that captain marvel that I could that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► what I really loved about it and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► this kingdom come has much more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► story Kingdom Come is the story of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► future it's it's the I think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► we're superheroes anybody the old-school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► superheroes behind for a while and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► are new school superheroes like from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► nineties who have emerged in their awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► we know that was here at 19 terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► just use your ears everywhere to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► awful and so the world is coming on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► hell and likewise we are seeing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► know it's not a great place for regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► humans it's really more the superhumans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► are just kind of flying around fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► so there's that whole kind of meta level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► and then and then one woman goes and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► a talk with Superman and says you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► this is crap we need to deal with it bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► things have happened they blew up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► know nuclear you know they they split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► captain atom into and he made a nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► explosion and pointed and poisoned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► Midwest the US and it's very bad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► need to do something about it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► there's that this is a this book with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► story but what is fascinating about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► is as DC calls in elseworld it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► not in continuity it's a it's a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► time and and these characters are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► iconic characters are allowed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► consequences and and you can tell abroad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► story within this a broad this is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2817">TS</a>]
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00:47:02 ◼ ► story here love story that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► summarized because there's too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► story to actually tell but you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► there's it from page one there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► whole biblical overlay of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► the end times and revelation Kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2833">TS</a>]
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00:47:18 ◼ ► know a clash with the super humans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► supervillains essentially and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► humans who are also not that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► it's a fascinating piece of work in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2851">TS</a>]
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00:47:37 ◼ ► way if it does feel different in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► more rough than the lavish stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► in Marvel's and I felt like if that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► the if if Marbles was the nostalgic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2866">TS</a>]
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00:47:55 ◼ ► cutting slept together or newsreels or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► I what I find interesting about kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► comes it's basically a really its you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► mentioned there's them the framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► devices that you have a minister who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► asked to run around the universe with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► the specter yes and help the specter sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► in judgment but what this really is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2890">TS</a>]
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00:48:27 ◼ ► know it's holding your cross beam on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2907">TS</a>]
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00:48:35 ◼ ► him the gist of that the gist of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► story is is will Jesus / Superman step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► up and do what is necessary with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► power she has been given and then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► sacrificial lamb all along and Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► is is in Superman like there's a heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► emphasis on the man portion of Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► by the end of the by the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► and the information there is that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► finally come to terms with the man part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► of Superman and that's what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► make it more effective super super being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► by the end of it whereas diana is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► much just unrepentantly I'm worshiped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► from beginning to end of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► no there's not a whole lot of character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► development for anyone other than anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► other than Superman this is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► the whole book is about the battle for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► Superman soul where he had effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► dropped out of public life ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► earlier when he was horrified by people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► like yeah it's okay to kill super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► villains and it didn't want Lois Lane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► was killed by the Joker yeah but he then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► you're gone yeah megog my god kills the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► Joker and Superman like that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► it's supposed to work and he drops out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► of public life on the public was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► why can't we kill super villains already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► if the nineties if ya stream yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► let's get this book this book feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► a reaction to the content the comics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► the nineteen nineties and that it'sit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► the struggle for the soul of Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► can be seen as metaphorical that way i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► just find the religious imagery through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► this whole thing incredibly striking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► different ways to worship these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► people and then the question is how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► the gods respond to the worship that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► they do and they've the guy named Magog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► like that yeah Bible you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► good right yeah all of this weather the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► gods are actually do it or whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► should be God's in the first place I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► mean it is this is this is angry god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► stuff this is not warm and fuzzy prayers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► the they don't become worthy of normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► humans trust until the end of kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► come when they when they take their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► masks off and stop wearing the uniform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► you could argue that the story too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► that the old gods the the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► left left the world right to to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► own to its own devices and now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► having that debate of while things got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► really bad when we laughed doing later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► do we reengage here do we re-enter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► they do and they say we're taking over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► and that does not go well write like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► the all the villains are upset the UN is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► upset and even the humans who have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► fascinating split the split between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► batman bruce wayne has got it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► heroes just booked more you really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► and he's wonderful but but he's human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► and and he's got sort of the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► heroes with him and then there are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► godlike heroes and they are they are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► opposite sides ish for a long time which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► damn i do also enjoy how commendable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► know what this is like a landowner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► problem i got grab you at seventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► percent of the of their surface to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► with some away and you know you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► interesting that actually Batman doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► take as bigger role as i keep kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► expecting him to like a lot of big d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► stories boil down to Superman arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► with Batman person man vs Batman don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► justice or but in this one it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► more Superman arguing with Wonder Woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► uh-huh and then Batman happening to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► along at the end and solve everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► the deus ex Batna yeah wonder woman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► interesting in this she doesn't let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► know that she's essentially been kicked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► out of her llanera yeah uh and stripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► of all of her you know royalty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► things like that in it you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► becomes up later and she's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► god-kind of godlike attitude and she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► also more like those other heroes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► that she's like we've got to do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► we can to win this whereas Superman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► almost Hamlet like in his in decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► about well I mean you know what I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► to be good but you know I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► do anything bad to make it good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► she's like let's just kill those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► and it's fascinating that the push and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► pull between those two characters to as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► they're also obviously attracted to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► yeah yeah it's it's a more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► death of at first they perceive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► problem Superman Wonder Woman perceive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► the problem as it's this new generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► of kids who don't know morality you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► there is there is right and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► throughout the story that the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► not these kids it the problem is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► approach to the solution it is superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► and wonder woman are taking a Mike takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► right up approach this thing and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► into even bigger balls than the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► that they thought they were solving if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► can if I can interject with that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► preference purpose with the words focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► on become I don't Jason I just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► bit of origin story of Kingdom Come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► itself because i think it's directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► relevant to this you know the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► the old gods making way for the new gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► and realizing the new gods are not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► great and going well we should come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► and clean this stuff up this story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► was originally pitched as an outline by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► alex ross while he was working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► Marvel's he wanted to do something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► this with DC but he didn't know DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► continuity as well he pitched it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► let's see who is it too is it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► James Robinson famous for for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► legendary run on starman along with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► bunch of other stuff and he he pitched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► this thing that was similar in scope and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► implications to something like watchman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► or an alum or project that got pitched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► years before called twilight of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► superheroes that never turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► anything but that has been its its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► corpse has been well plundered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► especially kingdom come from which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► inspiration but loads of other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► that would follow in DC history where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► the general concept was was this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► know what what happens you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► when some big catastrophic thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► this is going to happen and it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► dissolved in terms of of Moore's take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► especially the notion of dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► the conflict between the older and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► younger generations of superheroes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► how to deal with super villains and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► putting some some This Is It this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► last one this is the big epic final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► ragnarok level event where everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► goes to hell and they eventually ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► up hearing with Mark way because mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► waid as i mentioned earlier had these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► note card boxes full of full of files on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► all of these comic book characters as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► encyclopedia CLE and if you look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► and then you look at Earth x which ross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► did with Marvel few years later with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► with jim courier you see the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► when he's paired with somebody like Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► Waid and when he's given more free rein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► to just kind of go nuts and that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► kind of falls falls apart of the ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► about what I like so much about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► yes there's loads of continuity porn all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► over it but it ties together really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► nicely even if like me still years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► you're realizing go scot-free is a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► called mister miracle and he's a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► ok what's he all about it here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► clever clever comic-book names but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► a that the the the core conceit of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► potentially being the big final story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► for all of these characters is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► that when when I discovered it where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► just kind of grabbed DC stuff here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► there it was it was phenomenal i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► know anything about then Captain Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► now called shazam I'd never seen him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► that didn't know that existed and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► thing and then I decided well maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► should I should look into who this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► character is he traveled in a Winnebago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► and the seventies voices you may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► missed that but you watch the kids TV in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► the in the seventh member he traveled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► with his friend mentor in a Winnebago it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► is a mark waid certainly is a extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► interested in thinking about the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► Superman and what it what life Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► Comics doesn't have Superman they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► have a really uh Superman india they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► have some characters were kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► that now but not not one of their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► lead characters is not the all-powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► kind of being that Superman can be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► Mark weight is definitely fascinated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► him and you see the kingdom come this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► essentially like Lisa said the story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► what Superman going to do and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► decision that mean essentially making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► this decision like do we all die or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► we live and the world is ruined and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► there's a third option which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► captain marvel blows up the thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► many of them died but not all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► and that's that somehow it gets resolved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► in the end it but everybody loses that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► how yes well I mean so Marcus wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► irredeemable which i recommend to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► i think it's a really interesting comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► and it lasted for 37 issues and it tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► the whole story but irredeemable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► essentially mark waid saying what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► Superman went bad one day and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► great but it is very clear that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► a subject that is near and dear to mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► waid heart and he likes to he likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► talk about one of the great attractions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► of Kingdom Come is that because it's set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► outside of continuity can tell a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► characters and they can have development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► in age and this is sort of old grumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► Batman instead of you know younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► grumpy Batman that we usually see and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► fascinating one of course seven years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► later wait got a chance in continuity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► redefine Superman with the well until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► they wiped away all of continuity the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► the really great canonical modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► retelling of the Superman myth with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► birth right birth on which they lifted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► from like crazy for that man of steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► incomparable taught me i really did hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► hiren I remembered you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► when I got a tweet from somebody so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► finally some and steel wow you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► right it's terrible my getaway but thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► you for the reinforcement years later I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► was so scarred by it that intervention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► had to take place for me to realize my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► true feelings about it that I was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► to push for the mac want to push away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► one of the inciting moments in still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► Marvel's Civil War comic event is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► group of superheroes hat making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► mistake that leads to a large loss of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► one might say that marquel and American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► alarm might have actually might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► read this it brings that to mind when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► read kingdom come this time I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► oh you know that's kind of how the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► the war for the first time like wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► minute yeah really familiar interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► superheroes when left to their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► devices might make some super mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► and the kill a bunch of innocent people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► is it's an interesting thing to explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► i wanted to mention the ending which my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► understanding is is not in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► collection which is the one year leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► the one year later and along where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► they're in plant on the planet hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► of superhero god I love that besides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► restaurant and menu cracks me up to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► today's special is the power girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► yeah it's like that is bad if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► interject for just a second that i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► this because I couldn't find my uh my i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► have the original press teach comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► but I couldn't find them in time so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► got this off of comiXology and included [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► with issue for is the one year later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► things so i'm not sure it i think it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► have been part of the original I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► think I don't think I i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► included in reprints & and the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► versions that have existed go off of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► reference it's got my favorite thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► it which is the spot on drink choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► for Superman Batman Wonder Woman water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► it's like right my interview I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► keep your comments so i gotta say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► epilogue is my favorite thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► whole comic i love it i love everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► about i love the fact that there's days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► that there are superheroes eating at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► superhero themed restaurant because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► woman really just wants to see how crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► this place would be and then people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► dressed in all the costumes of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► superheroes and ended things on the menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► are hilarious and that man just wants a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► steak well-done and he doesn't care what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► the theme is he just wants to steak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► well-done it comes medium and Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► makes it will then was he yes he like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► moves his dad glasses if you just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► eyes glared for a moment and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► delightful i love it so much I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► interesting and you know operatic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► has religious metaphors forever and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► of that and yet you know what I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► man superman and wonder woman who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► now Superman Wonder Woman having a baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► and they ask Batman to be the to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► Godfather i kinda that 12 pages or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► whatever it is is kind of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► thing just like them having lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► it's my favorite thing in the book which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► is crazy the one little touch that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► loved the most was Superman drinking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► oh yeah well i know you have time either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► gasoline Lantern Lantern not killed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► to my only complaint is that i feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► Batman has a high tolerance for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► with stupid names it so we should not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► get upset at the various times i'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► are you gonna go back to your bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► computer and complain that we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► color steak something silly i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► like the middle click mozzarella sticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► you know maybe Batman has gotten a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► little crusty in his old engine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► he's okay with the stuff that he named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► when he was a young crazy to quit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► man has an exoskeleton now he's cranky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► ok the process of turning into sam neill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► yep with the the stuff that the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► that's easy to pick up on whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► a continuity porn you know freaker not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► oh my god well I see I the the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► that rereading this there was loads of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► definitely didn't get 1996 and I'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► curious my assumption is compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► Marvel's there's a lot more stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► they may just come off like the invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► children that nobody had ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► before somebody like Erica I it was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► this brain melting you know I I again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► knew enough about the the biggies here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► that you don't Superman Batman Wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► Woman like that was no problem for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► honestly reading this got the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► than an awful lot if not all of the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► generation of superheroes were made up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► for this so i don't know if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► trying to make it look like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► that was that was very much the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► it came off to me none of them seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► particularly consequential and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► didn't get that sort of same like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► know in Marvel's when you see somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► in the background I just felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► this is somebody who is a part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► tapestry of this era and I didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► that way with kingdom come because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► mean it's a very different kind of story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► but I I knew enough about the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► are keeping the action moving to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► to buy into the story and so to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► behind the characters and the anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► who I wouldn't have known very well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► wasn't doing a whole lot in the story so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► they were just kind of like background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► characters and and they didn't it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► bother me very much to have them there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► although i think the fact that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► were so many characters that were named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► in addition did sort of make it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► bit just overwhelming with the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► there's a lot of them so i checked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► emotionally just a little bit because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► didn't feel like I I knew enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► the the bad guys there wasn't anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► for me for Lex Luthor to to hang my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► that's interesting because alex ross at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► the time I did this insanely detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► Bible are you know about who all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► these characters are you know which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► of these characters is the daughter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► Dick Grayson and Starfire and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► like that and much of this never shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► up in the actual book kingdom come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► the actual story but I i did think when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► i was reading this I just kept my eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► on Superman Wonder Woman and Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► yeah and the hordes of characters in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► relations to the original DC characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► continuity porn that I was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► completely ignore because it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► it wasn't talking about the history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► DC universe so much as where it could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► next and I think Erica actually mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► checking out is actually probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► characters they're just cannon fodder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► close your eyes and think of England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► Japanese cheesy cheesy cameos and cheesy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► cameos have a tendency to annoy me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► it's just like okay then i can I talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► about the difference been reading these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► because and I notice with Marvel's to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► the first time i saw Tony Stark in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► Marvel's I had it and this was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► time I red marbles and saw Tony Stark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► it was a hundred percent it made perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► sense and again I was like well of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► course Tony Stark always looks like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► that's the derring-do that I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► and then when I went back and reread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► Marvel's in preparation for this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► there was a moment where there's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► a perceptual shift from like wait the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► Black Widow doesn't look like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► because i have a little bit of scarlett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► johansson back of my head now and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► the same thing where and I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► Ultimates sort of dropkick me down this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► path because you know that they were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► ones who started by bait by using samuel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► l jackson is as the ultimate nick fury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► but when I red marbles this time out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► character something oh no these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► these don't map to that the composites i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► composites are informed by step from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► Audis and when I went back and reread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► kingdom comfort for the umpteenth time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► actually didn't have that problem and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► think one of the reasons i didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► that problem is because the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► who are being recycled through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► movies now are being recycled in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► generation but like when you have Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► who is balding and in the end the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► exoskeleton and like the green arrow has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► lost all of his hair and put on some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► and it's pretty obvious that him in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► Black Canary have retired to boca and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► and and olive and you know even Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► is great the temples and looking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► little bit beefy there wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► disconnect with weight now this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► how they look in my head now that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► same way i had with Marvel's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► there's because and i love the CW shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► as much as the next person but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► there's no way I'm confusing any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► the characters therefore what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► kingdom com that there's just there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► sharper delineation whereas with marbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► there's a little bit of bleeding around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► the edges and I thought that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► did you notice the Tony Stark looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► Timothy Dalton yes with my gosh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► Rockets here was around it i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► might have helped that Marvel's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► allegedly portraying the way things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► so it's supposed to match your memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► but Kingdom Come is doing a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► version and a man like let's say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► love Christopher Reeve or rent and Ralph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► there's somebody that maybe they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► like that when they get old you know yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► yeah probably not they did that manages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► beautiful the the exoskeleton Batman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► an interesting historical footnote for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► that period in DC because just a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► years before this they had broken the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► bat spine and so I guess they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► were playing off of well I guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► how we explain what that man 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► from now it's like he's got some exosuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► yeah I like that or he just got better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► for no reason yeah sure I i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► Batman is human and he's great he's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► know he's old and falling apart and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► an exoskeleton because he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► that's that's Batman he's gonna find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► way and I think I think that's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► interesting bit of that character i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► love the green arrow family i love it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► much that he had diner is still together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► and that their daughter has picked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► the mantle and they're like apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► really cool with it that's one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► favorite background bits of color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► through the whole book i'm taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► break not for a sponsor but tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► about some other stuff that's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► on the uncomfortable network do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► about unjustly maligned it is a pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► culture show about the sometimes strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► things that we all love that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► every episode features your host comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► and games writer anthony johnson talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► to a guest to explain why that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► that you hate is actually really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► fleischmann defending the animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► series Kim Possible al Kennedy defending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► Doctor Who the TV movie Tron defended by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► wilwheaton and of course stargate sg-1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► incomparable dot-com / UMP and while at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► the incomparable also check out our TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► podcast currently recapping arrow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► flash daredevil and Game of Thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► every episode we talked about it at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► TV podcast and now I return you to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► mother Zeppelin I i'm interested in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► overall overall reactions to i found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► picture of Timothy Dalton this tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► stark to its totally right i totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► called that one also there's a George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► Avengers a separate HW bush appears in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► use in the beginning of so you'd like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► reaction to you being so right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► yeah tell me about how great my reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► was to the no I just kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► so captain marvel that I want to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► Captain Marvel such a tragic figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► that's terrible it's a fascinating way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► that they use them in the billy batson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► has sort of been brainwashed by the lex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► luthor or and Captain Marvel ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► being this character that is the is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► great he's on the he's off the board and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► then he's on the board but he's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► threat and then in the end he sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► makes the supreme sacrifice whatever how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► all of the super villains are scared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► death of him and integrate it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► to be it turns out that he's Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► already got grown up so he looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► Captain Marvel but he's not Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► Marvel he's still Billy Batson and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► of the backstory here is the captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► marvel was a from a different comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► publisher and they were bought by DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► awkwardly overtime integrated as shazam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► now because marvel comics and trademarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► and whatever he's sort of an awkwardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► integrated but is always felt like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► little bit of another place and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► I'm also fascinated by the captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► who is that whose best days were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► a long time ago is an important mover in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► a couple of amazing pieces of more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► modern comic book art which is miracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► because miracle man is essentially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► english version of Captain Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► originally Marvel man with his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► changed by Alan Moore and uh and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► hit Marvel man merry Marvel man and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► says Kyoto original like that right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► yet you know it's just it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► to me and i like how is used here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► because he's silent and scary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► menacing and then like broken and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► terrifying because he's a minute you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► know brainwashed by lex luthor it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► character who who is an outsider in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► DC Comics world in here that's what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► is he's an outsider and kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► monster but in the end shakes it off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► shows that he's a hero i just i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► it's a really interesting use of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► yeah I love that Captain Marvel uses his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► a magic lightning bolt which is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► just eat up saying Shazam and dodging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► and lending which also happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► Justice League Unlimited in the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► you just stole that reference from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► sir is 20 / also i mean Marvel's marvels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► is is not i mean there's a story there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► but it's not a story like kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► there's so much narrative and I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► curious what everybody thinks of all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► all of Kingdom common as a story my i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► i'll tell you my feeling about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► reading it again after having not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► it for a little while is I there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► some rough moments where I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► essentially they're like okay there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► we're just gonna list a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► things that happen now and then we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► get back to the interesting dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► between the characters later and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► it feels very compressed it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► 12 issues of story put into four issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► of of comics in a way that Marvel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► obviously doesn't and I'm just so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► that's my only real complaint about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► it feels like there's too much here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► its two compressed and that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► parts that just kind of weak what we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► we pull back and see some big details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► because there's just not enough time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► essentially in the running time of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► story but you know it is what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► about it is that it is big and crazy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► iconic and about what happens if the if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► you chart like a world with super heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► where does it end up logically which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► kind of like this it's there's too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► people and they're destroying everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► and what's the place regular people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► i wanted to throw it to you guys since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► this is more of a traditional you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► it's a it different they're more story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► here than there is in Marvel's doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► work in the end of look reading it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► does does what you know does came in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► Lisa so do you remember how we got about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► 10 years ago i think is grant morrison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► did the seven soldiers and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► like a four-issue serious I'm klarion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► the witch boy in a four-issue series on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► this is kind of the exact opposite of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► act in that you could have done like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► jason said you could have done like 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► you could like seven separate miniseries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► and really embroidered this universe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► would have loved to have seen something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► like that and gotten more texture from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► some of the teams especially the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► younger teams or the second or third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► generation superheroes like again you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► third-generation Black Canary you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► a kid flash a whole bunch of those that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► said I think the compressed format kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► of works in a way to shock the reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► into accepting how dramatically things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► have changed because over the space of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► few pages you have to accept that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► Joker and Lois Lane have both been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► Superman's gone to retirement you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► to accept that plain jane humans as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► who used to be superheroes are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► underground or retired you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► Hockman has somehow turned into some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4558">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► weird animal hybrid so your brain has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► kind of readjusting ok here we go what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► are the rules and in that way I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► world-building me would really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► if it had been stretched out to like yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► twenty issues where you'd get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► spin-off series and you find out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► little bit more about how things got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► be the way they are or what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► inside the gulag get the time that soup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► while Superman and Wonder Woman havin a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► big old discussion about Brainiac or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► what that means doing to set up all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► his chest pieces in the background and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► why his son with the League of Assassins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► is working where he's working because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► there's a there are a lot of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► are just lightly sketched out that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► would have liked to see more from just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► for my own selfish nerdy perspective i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► not a huge fan of the story of kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► there's sort of a human protagonist but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► he's feels really shoehorned in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► and he never does anything and we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► even video cable he has a good talk with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► hmm well you know you've got to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► broad audience surrogate and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► somewhere but I don't even know how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► guy feels about most of it's like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► comes in at the beginning of the issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► and then we can really worried he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► yeah I i prefer what Marvel's did even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► if it's not strictly a narrative to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► does which has a narrative but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► think really executed all that well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► now I i enjoy Kingdom Come are far more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► affinity for the big iconic DC universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► and the godlike heroes compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► ground level stuff that Marvel tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► have but with the exception of the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► that Phil Sheldon really doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► enough in the story i know the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► that he's supposed to be an observer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► judgment but the judgment moment passes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► and then all that he is able to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► council Superman at the end and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► other than that I think that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► more consistent better shaped story than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► Marvel's because there is actually an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► arc that goes through it there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► problem seriously is there is an attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► at a solution that escalates the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► and finally there's a catastrophe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► whereas in Marvel's it's just it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► slice of life stuff that ends in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► tragedy and one guy's disillusionment so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► as an adventure story as a story that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► think doesn't ask as much of its readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► continuity baggage I much prefer kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► come and i think it is a good story on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► to be fair Phil Sheldon never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► Marvel's but this is a point is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► everything I have said has just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► discredited the old highway you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► get in here guys who observe things is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► connection between the East tues dories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► so that's that that's I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► clever there and then you had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► sorry sorry chip Erica okay Erica what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► do you think you can come you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► many years ago and it for me it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► was kind of I loved it at the time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► I've never been a big fan of superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► comics so that's not something I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► drawn to and somebody gave me this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► said here this is different from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► the usual maybe you'll like this and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► not at all what I expected from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► superhero comic besides the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► it was it was this really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► story you know taking the the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► superheroes in general and taking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► forward quite a bit and anytime you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► at sort of the the ramifications of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► that's an interesting science fiction & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► rope for me so I quite enjoyed it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► thought it was momentous and it gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► a little bit more information in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► pocket i guess just in general about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► these key superheroes so i really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► it and then cut to yesterday when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► started reading Marvel's I felt at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► as I was starting to read Marvel's I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► was thinking this is this just feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► much more sort of slick and new and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► the few DC things that i had read and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► was like oh I think I'm probably gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► end up liking the DC stuff much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► but by the time i had gotten through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► beginning like it felt like Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► started slow by the time i got through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► that into the end I was really enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► it like i said i was getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► nostalgic family reunion kind of feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► so-so i was i was in by the end they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► pulled me in and then just a few hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► later I started reading kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► and it was it was coming back to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► I was getting some of those things same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► feelings that I had before but I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► like it was just reading it in such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► closeness to Marvel's Marvel's was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► very kind of stripped down and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► elegant and I felt like there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► there was there is moment and grandiose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► business but it was there was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► stuff shoved in there and i completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► agree with everybody who said that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► just moves so fast and it's just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► squished together to me there are parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► of it where i felt like i was reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► fairytale like something that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► really stripped down to its most basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► bones you get you know you get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► catastrophe and then suddenly they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► living happily ever after and eating it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► at planet Krypton so I i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► that came off as well the second reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► because i wasn't able to get into it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► emotionally because i felt like i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► waiting through a lot of plot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► while interesting conceptually is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► not as interesting to me now as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► the first time I encountered it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► since then I've seen a lot more of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► kind of thing so I mean you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► perhaps suffering in comparison to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► you know 10 years or so in between when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► i read it that I've experienced a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► more stuff it's definitely a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► zack snyder re i will give you that m is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► what's your verdict on kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► I i think it's fundamentally does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► different things than Marvel's does for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► something in Kingdom Come is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► something more epic and mythic in scope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► and that's what I think attracted me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► originally that I was getting almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► completely out of superhero comics as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► quickly as i would have gotten onto them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► and was instead reading vertigo books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► transmetropolitan at probably too young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► of an age and the really honestly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► thing that attracted me to it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► capabilities of what you can do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► elseworld story which it one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► things about the new 52 that drove me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► the craziest is that it meant no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► elseworld stuff and elseworld stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► make up some of my favorite DC stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► because they they can play outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► bounds of a reality as we mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► earlier of course now this is Earth 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► earth and the ongoing multi versity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► overlapping with this convergence thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► that they're doing the summer we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► taian issue you know digging into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► different corners of the kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► universe know we've never explode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► I don't just saying that that's actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► reality and it's all grant morrison's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► fault that if it is it if there if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► is a thing that that stuck out to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► DC does a line of reprints called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► absolute editions they don't four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► Watchmen for hush got that all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► The Sandman one's beautiful the same man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► one is amazing and I like an idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► didn't get in on absolute kingdom come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► which when you're dealing with this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► rereading this trade paperback from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► almost 20 years ago where a bunch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► art is cropped off at the at the glue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► desperately wishing that I had that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► oversized thing like i do for planetary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► and for a number of other things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► kingdom comes it is the sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► that I i would want a peek into some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► those other little bits of this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► like this world is more fascinating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► me than the vast majority of what DC has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► done with their new 52 line and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► their superhero stuff for quite a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► and I just I just what I want I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► myself wanting more but being perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► satisfied not getting more and even if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► pretend like the kingdom follow-up never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► i I'm fine with that I'm fine with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► standing on its own as for me the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► definitive use of the concepts behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► Twilight superheroes that Alan more put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► together that that I I think anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► could get away with in this world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► multiverses and realities crashing into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► each other and all that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► yeah it's a like I said I wonder what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► attracts me to it is the debt freedom to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► tell a story that it doesn't fit into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► anything else it's just an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► story and this is this mythic you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► Superman is as Jesus's and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► really interesting idea really the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► I mean you know he was sent from another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► Krypton is only sunset yeah we know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► got it from but it is uh it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► fascinating story I after after you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► not having read it for you know five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► years or seven years or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► revisiting it I i have forgotten its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► flaws and remembered its virtues and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► know I like i said i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► story is there a lot of moments where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► the story just kind of gets there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► lot of detail but it's just like to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► us to the next scene with dialogue where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► the characters are discussing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► they're doing there's a lot of computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► compression happening you know in an era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► where we are so much decompression in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► x to see the level of like amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► compression that happens to fit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► yeah it felt really weird wanting some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► decompression which is the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► find myself declining at every turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► but I'd yeah it's just there's panels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► here that should be multiple pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► rights but that's just not the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► that they're telling and that's why I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► like a comic that leaves an impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► that there's so much more that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► if you sit here and stare at this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► panel like an oil painting for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► five hours you'll totally understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► right i kinda like that for me that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► kind of overwhelming is being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► complete noob that in in Marvel's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► were it's sort of the there's a warmth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► to it and it made me curious about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► it was in that was in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► whereas here it was just a you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► not a wall of sound it's a wall of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► superheroes yes something happen and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► and it was just as you'll see way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► title in and of itself is more imposing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► than what I think modern DC would call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► something like this which would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► something like justice league the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► revelation and it's funny because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► right but like that's really what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► the end they would if they made an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► animated movie out of it would be called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► justice league revelation that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► religious part of it is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► did I just wanted to call out i'm not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► overtly religious person not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► religious person at all but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► that I like about the inclusion of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► whether you give a crap about one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► religion or another is that for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► where other things like infinity crusade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► and crossover events and everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► employed religious imagery and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► really laid it on thick and made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► most ham-fisted crazily terribly wrought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► religious allegories in this one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► really it works for me in in the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► sense of this being the superheroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► ragnarok the the kind of thing the grant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► morrison wrote a book called super God's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► about about these method characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► olympus for the modern age in in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► of the way that we look at them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► think about them instead of taking on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► they they guide the way that we live our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► guide the way that we be asked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► stuff on podcast I i think there's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► is something interesting there and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► didactic I I i think it carries that off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► rather well you could say the inclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► of the the perspective of the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► being a pastor himself but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► bridge too far for you but it's not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► me and I'm I'm usually the first one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► rail against that kind of stuff as just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► being oh great well where's the where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► the priest and a rabbi the whole premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► superheroes bring about the end times I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► mean that is the premise you just gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► go into a nightmare yeah you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► bunch of super-powered people that shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► lasers out of their eyes and thunder out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► of the right now they're gone they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► God's let's just I mean that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► that's what this is saying is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► are there the gods for God's walk among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► this like they did in the olden days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► the you know Greek myths and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► result which is the end of days is upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► us and I think that's yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► interesting but it's certainly I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► certainly takes itself seriously at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► times with all of that which is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► one of the charming things about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► ending because the ending is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► delightful human and doesn't take itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► seriously and it's a great relief after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► the operatic drama of the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► world and these moral decisions and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► these horrible things that are happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► yeah you have a planet hollywood themed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► restaurant where the Carrie Kelly Robin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► is waiting on them apparently Booster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► excuse me mr referred to as the mail to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► know the manager ok I i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► remembered him as being the owner and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► shows up to talk to him to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► friends are framing story finally talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► to the school about that anything more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► about kingdom come before we wrap it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► that people have on their agenda that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► they wanted to get to and that we fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► to get to applaud them for trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► write a story outside of continuity but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► in DC every time you try that you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► created an entire new version of its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► my only other thing to say about it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► just that the the one character that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► had any real emotional connection to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► simply because when I was a kid I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► book it wasn't even a comic book it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► in children's book and I think it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► even come with a tape that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► play along with it manager about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► origin of wonder woman and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► that's the only marvel or DC comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► thing that I had in my life for decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► and but i loved it I loved it so much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► I've always sort of had this affinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► for wonder woman even though don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► actually know how she developed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► real comic books so I got to this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► just sort of had this sort of ephemeral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► picture in my head and then there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► this one woman who is so much more real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► and stark and she had emotional issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► going on there is turmoil inside her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► her life outside was not going great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► I i think it was really good it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► have very mixed emotions about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► because I want her to be my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► happy perfect lady but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► I want characters to be interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► that you know diverse and it have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► issues and have troubles because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► the way the world works so I I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► just give a thumbs-up to wonder woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► here because she was a pretty detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► layered character that was not what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► was expecting but i think was refreshing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► alright well I feel like we have reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► we have reached the end lots of alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► ross art to digest i enjoyed Marvel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► more in the reread but i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► marvels is a it's easy to enjoy Marvel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► nostalgia trip it whereas Kingdom Come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► is this super detailed compressed story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► they're very they are very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► despite the fact that i always group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► them together because when they came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► when i discovered them in the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► the artist so similar because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► same guy but they are very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► ones backward-looking was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► forward-looking and I guess now from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► perspective of not in the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► sideways looking but really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► both of them and I i was glad to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► revisit them and I was glad that you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► were here to visit them with me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► I'm now thank you intern because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► my style as a host of a podcast Monty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► Ashley you were here and I thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► the face front true true believer fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► enough moisture jaan you were also here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► thank you for it thank you for having me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► this is a wonderful breath of fresh air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► to to myself being in the middle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► massive crossover on crossovers epic on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► my own comment yes and please visit DSN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► dot FM i will i will give you a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► never-ending series of crossovers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► Moises has many podcasts their chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► utter thank you for joining us you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► also present tonight up a jumble of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► images a cacophony of apocalyptic verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► Lisa Schmeisser that you love you too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► are you two were present surprise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► hello there well put and Erica and sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► you you to participate tonight thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► I think she wins yes i think so you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► it you've got to do the Stanley voice or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► doesn't have as much punch XL Shiar ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5636">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► not being very good at stanley the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► official movie actor of Willie lump get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► yes soon markets exactly right and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► I'm Jason I was also here and now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► going to go away as is this podcast you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► stay tuned or whatever is next in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► podcast app this is the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBo9YY/5658">TS</a>]