The Talk Show

143: ‘A Squirrel Eating a Duck’, With Special Guest Merlin Mann


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00:00:21   I'm really great I'm great mood [TS]

00:00:25   you're kidding i'm going to particularly good mood so glad you're not worried [TS]

00:00:30   you're talking about the snowpocalypse right yeah right [TS]

00:00:33   the general Nass trophy yeah it's just what do they call winter storm Jonas [TS]

00:00:38   which is it obviously a big point of conversation here to here at the [TS]

00:00:43   riverhouse home Jonas's is is a bit impressed he's excited easy he's like a [TS]

00:00:50   hashtag on twitter down so he's very excited about that your son is trending [TS]

00:00:55   but he's he is he's disappointed and slightly embarrassed by the fact that [TS]

00:01:01   this is a big storm that is that is coming on a friday night which is the [TS]

00:01:06   worst possible time for a storm to hit in terms of maybe getting a day off of [TS]

00:01:12   school I could not could not possibly be worse [TS]

00:01:16   I'm like there was no note note conversation whatsoever about canceling [TS]

00:01:23   school today in advance of the snowstorm because they are so certain of one it [TS]

00:01:27   that is not going to come until this evening that there was no need to cancel [TS]

00:01:30   school in pants at this point science is working against children because when we [TS]

00:01:35   were younger we did not have this kind of technology to know we had a rough [TS]

00:01:38   idea of what kind of thing would happen like any given week you know and also i [TS]

00:01:43   don't think there's that as much concern for like makeup days like I feel like [TS]

00:01:47   when I was a kid you don't get into the makeup days if you had like five around [TS]

00:01:52   10 snow days and now a date today everything was on such a tight schedule [TS]

00:01:55   right like maybe maybe they go back after a bunch of snow days they'd assign [TS]

00:01:59   one of the school secretaries hey go back and count just how many days we've [TS]

00:02:03   had school you know we should probably write that down [TS]

00:02:05   okay somebody go Louise can you can check that out for us now I'm excited [TS]

00:02:10   here's why I mean I'm not excited but I'm excited about the snow but i'm happy [TS]

00:02:13   i'm in a good mood because i was i look up terribly sick one on Wednesday and [TS]

00:02:20   just just felt almost dead and then I felt a little better but still [TS]

00:02:25   definitely sick yesterday and today is the day where I feel I still feel I'm [TS]

00:02:29   not like good I'm you know like but I'm on the upswing and I do [TS]

00:02:34   me that's it's the best it's better better than being a hundred percent [TS]

00:02:37   health is that day after you've you've had a bug for a couple of days where you [TS]

00:02:41   feel like I've you know I woke up feeling good day especially when you [TS]

00:02:45   have like up especially especially when you have a long cold and you know maybe [TS]

00:02:50   you're just starting the coughing phase or something you know that kind of late [TS]

00:02:53   and but that day you stop getting worse is such a good day the first day we were [TS]

00:02:57   like a god i might survive this I you know you told me about that yesterday [TS]

00:03:01   and i have to say you sound way better than I expected that i was thinking like [TS]

00:03:04   you're sick Marcus sick [TS]

00:03:07   Dan's had some kind of crazy likes stomach bug like there's something I was [TS]

00:03:11   kind of just sitting you know when you're waking up and get paranoid i was [TS]

00:03:13   waking up and I was just thinking about like how many people I know are sick [TS]

00:03:15   right now is this a big east coast thing is this my they say there's like this [TS]

00:03:19   killer flu that's going around these guys well I want to ask you about this i [TS]

00:03:22   want to get your medical advice honestly yeah I love to help is that I i think i [TS]

00:03:27   had the flu and Amy tells me no way did you have the flu because nobody shakes [TS]

00:03:33   the flew off and 48 hours so you obviously didn't have the flu you have a [TS]

00:03:36   cold but I know what a cold is like for me a cold is entirely in my head and my [TS]

00:03:40   throat [TS]

00:03:41   it is in my nose it's in my my forehead [TS]

00:03:44   sometimes it's like pressure in my eyes and it's always in my throat [TS]

00:03:48   this was a whole body this is what happened i went to a tuesday night i [TS]

00:03:51   felt perfect i felt a hundred percent healthy went to bed woke up Wednesday [TS]

00:03:56   morning and I felt horrible [TS]

00:04:00   I mean just that I was like I think i'm sick or something and my whole body felt [TS]

00:04:05   like maybe I had signed up for the gym the day before and and decided i would [TS]

00:04:09   do everything we had the overall like body soreness and heaviness all without [TS]

00:04:14   I mean real real I mean like my legs hurt I felt like I I was you know maybe [TS]

00:04:19   I put on a hundred pounds and my legs weren't suited to to carry this much [TS]

00:04:23   weight up and down the stairs [TS]

00:04:25   my arms hurt everything that was you know it it and muscle ache you know like [TS]

00:04:30   like I had gone to the gym at you know that [TS]

00:04:33   and worked out after never having lifted weights in my life and and overall every [TS]

00:04:37   muscle in my body hurt ya headache [TS]

00:04:42   clearly i felt like i had a fever I always sensed it to me or not a cold [TS]

00:04:46   that I think that's the flu [TS]

00:04:48   mhm I mean what are the other options i mean what it would have a call me maybe [TS]

00:04:53   you got a differential differential diagnosis [TS]

00:04:55   mmm yeah no I is funny to say like for me I totally agree [TS]

00:04:59   I at like if something starts for me and always starts with an A [TS]

00:05:03   oh and uh oh I get a cold it's usually like oh my throat doesn't hurt [TS]

00:05:08   exactly but my throat feels weird that's the first thing is like swallowing [TS]

00:05:12   doesn't hurt exactly but I noticed swallowing that's the first 0 red flag [TS]

00:05:17   but what you're describing is something really similar maybe a month and a half [TS]

00:05:20   ago maybe a little longer and I woke up and I was like oh I'm getting the flu [TS]

00:05:26   I'm definitely getting the flu and this is gonna go out maybe like a Saturday or [TS]

00:05:29   something or friday anyway and then the thing was it kinda presented as being [TS]

00:05:34   flu-like I didn't have any of the you know the tiny stuff but i had i did feel [TS]

00:05:40   like really heavy really tired and then it turned into what felt like a minute [TS]

00:05:46   look within a day and felt like I was getting over a cold within a day so I [TS]

00:05:49   wonder if there's some kind of a new hybrid cold flu that might be out there [TS]

00:05:52   and I think that sometimes you can get lucky and get a mild case of the flu [TS]

00:05:56   like I realized that if you really get whacked right right square you know [TS]

00:06:00   right now it's not right in the bullseye by the moving you're down for like two [TS]

00:06:03   weeks and that's that's terrible it's been years since I've had something like [TS]

00:06:06   this but this is clearly not a cold you really understand the difference [TS]

00:06:10   not really i don't either I i say that are you say something so we [TS]

00:06:13   self-diagnosed like I self-diagnose you can get like ants can get a little cold [TS]

00:06:19   or or you go like oh man I'm coming down with the flu are you going yeah if I got [TS]

00:06:24   a 24-hour bug I don't know any of that actually it's what I do with my daughter [TS]

00:06:28   to was my daughter [TS]

00:06:30   I'm the house shaman like I'm the one who tries to predict like how much this [TS]

00:06:33   is going to destroy as you know as soon as a kid seconds you know game over [TS]

00:06:36   everybody will get sick and it's going to be the worst and so i'll go like okay [TS]

00:06:40   with my my rattles in my headdress and my beads and i'll be like me [TS]

00:06:44   hmm Eleanor will be fine in by sunday afternoon i'll make a pronouncement it's [TS]

00:06:51   really right but then sometimes it is just weird I feel like colds and flus [TS]

00:06:54   are changing i feel like it used to be you knew how long you're gonna get sick [TS]

00:06:58   i think something has mutated and it's changing it might be the water it could [TS]

00:07:01   be meets but I think stuff is changing for when i was a kid i I've always felt [TS]

00:07:07   like it's at the difference between the two things it's you know it's all [TS]

00:07:13   nebulous to me it's a lot of the symptoms overlap but i did I googled it [TS]

00:07:16   again and you know Here I am looking to get inside think about it [TS]

00:07:20   yeah google it I mean there's no better way to get expert medical advice but [TS]

00:07:25   there's like a checklist on the WebMD and they're like a cold you know often [TS]

00:07:30   comes on slowly you know you like you said you get that heads up you you have [TS]

00:07:34   that day we were like oh my god I think feel like there's a fifty percent chance [TS]

00:07:37   I'm gonna be sick and shit you feel you getting like twenty percent you're [TS]

00:07:40   getting like eight percent worse every hour like fairly consistently you know [TS]

00:07:44   what I'll tell you what a big telltale sign of a cold from his big telltale [TS]

00:07:48   sign like the 24 hour advance notice like Here I am [TS]

00:07:52   wake up field five note no suspicions no warning flags whatever I make some [TS]

00:07:56   coffee i'm reading some new seen what happened overnight and then I take the [TS]

00:08:00   first sip of coffee and tastes like shit like a terrible like how can anybody [TS]

00:08:04   drink this and then I think that I and then I quick-like run through that i did [TS]

00:08:08   i make it wrong that I not put enough beans in and then I think oh shit i'm [TS]

00:08:13   going you know what it is buddy you know what it is i'm getting set your exactly [TS]

00:08:17   you're ignoring it you're trying to throw yourself off the scent but that's [TS]

00:08:20   probably as scientists we can look at this and say that's probably a little [TS]

00:08:23   bit about sent it's got to have to do with your sense of smell it might have [TS]

00:08:26   to do with like your throat not feeling so good but your body is telling you [TS]

00:08:29   you're gonna get sick buddy [TS]

00:08:31   yeah and it's like something my tongue you know any other thing in in advance [TS]

00:08:35   is it something acidic like orange juice will will start stinging the back of my [TS]

00:08:41   throat like I don't have a sore throat yet but like something acidic like [TS]

00:08:44   orange juice does it doesn't go down doesn't it isn't pleasurable as I [TS]

00:08:47   swallow and that's to me is like who the next day [TS]

00:08:51   see and that they say that's a cold that called you have advanced warning and a [TS]

00:08:55   cold [TS]

00:08:56   seldom has a fever seldom has a headache and I I had a terrible fever i would I [TS]

00:09:04   didn't take a measurement of it I don't have a thermometer i would estimate my [TS]

00:09:07   fever on on Wednesday and an overnight going in tomorrow I would estimated [TS]

00:09:11   around $MONEY hundred and seven [TS]

00:09:13   oh that's pretty high [TS]

00:09:16   well I well I tell you what I'd but I think the reason I felt started feeling [TS]

00:09:20   better yesterday I think I sweated it out [TS]

00:09:22   I think I sweated this flew out of my body because I'll tell you what I woke [TS]

00:09:25   up I woke up yesterday morning and it was like I was like a grease-stained [TS]

00:09:29   every single thing you're mentioning I don't know if there's any basis in [TS]

00:09:34   science or medicine for describing but I thought all of those things when I was a [TS]

00:09:37   little kid he had a fever you had to stay in bed until you could sweat it out [TS]

00:09:42   is that a thing I think it is i don't believe right eye and I know it's [TS]

00:09:46   different with small children with small children you worry don't think you want [TS]

00:09:49   to like a hundred and fourteen oh yeah they're aching and you want to take care [TS]

00:09:52   of that because I could you know that's serious business but i think is it as an [TS]

00:09:55   adult you don't say I don't take anything to be to take you know take the [TS]

00:10:00   fever down whatever I feel like your body wants to have a fever then let it [TS]

00:10:03   go it you know you'll sweat this out let me ask you this [TS]

00:10:07   I think what I don't speak for you but I feel like anyone who has kids can agree [TS]

00:10:11   that its children the cause illness because a little disgusting sponges [TS]

00:10:15   actually touch everything that each other kids boogers on a dare and and [TS]

00:10:19   then they rub around on the playground and then they come home and bring that [TS]

00:10:22   into your home [TS]

00:10:23   do you have a sense let me ask you this is a factual question do you know what [TS]

00:10:27   your schools rule is for when you should or should not send your kid to school [TS]

00:10:31   that's an excellent question i don't i think Amy would probably know a little [TS]

00:10:36   bit more but it-it-it [TS]

00:10:40   it is in the modern age and you know I I mean this goes back decades i think when [TS]

00:10:46   you and I were kids were at the pivot point of this clearly before our time [TS]

00:10:51   there was a stay-at-home parent and a lot of households usually obviously the [TS]

00:10:57   mother and you know in today's world there are you know it's not so many [TS]

00:11:00   stay-at-home parents and also i mean like i can tell you are my my daughter [TS]

00:11:05   is in you know enrichment and aftercare until usually through for every day but [TS]

00:11:11   their kids were there till dark there did they have six like the parents need [TS]

00:11:14   those both parents are working there is no one to take care of that kid unless [TS]

00:11:17   someone doesn't get paid right and so I actually I don't know the rules but i [TS]

00:11:21   know that a lot of kids go when I probably shouldn't and probably when the [TS]

00:11:23   parents kind of wish that they could leave him home but that it is such an [TS]

00:11:26   enormous a thing to untangle from to if you don't send the kids to school what [TS]

00:11:35   do you do and and you know and a lot of times it pops up it only pops up in the [TS]

00:11:38   morning you know when you wake up and it's you know you might have meetings [TS]

00:11:42   you have stuff so I i am super sympathetic to that I don't know and I [TS]

00:11:46   know that the school's rules for this is is not very well I'll tell you what ours [TS]

00:11:51   are so first of all to your point I think the pendulum has swung i think [TS]

00:11:54   that i think that there was a time you know in the post you know Benjamin Spock [TS]

00:11:59   era where we want to toughen up our kids not turn turn them into cities and [TS]

00:12:02   dancers and so you sent him to school you gotta send it yeah you gotta go to [TS]

00:12:05   school don't matter how sick you are and then I think I feel like from from for [TS]

00:12:08   me in the last I want to even want to have a job in the nineties they made it [TS]

00:12:12   very clear to people you know don't come to work if you're sick because you make [TS]

00:12:16   other people sick [TS]

00:12:17   we never used to talk about that you just be you had to be home because you [TS]

00:12:19   were ill but then there's the sense of no let's be more you know the pendulum [TS]

00:12:23   swings that way you say like oh no let's not make other people sick [TS]

00:12:26   it's my understanding today and I am I get this wrong but I believe this is [TS]

00:12:30   correct because i don't like going to school and see how much it's not [TS]

00:12:33   yeah makes me out i hate those kids who are just walking down the hallway and [TS]

00:12:36   coughing I get all like Howard Hughes I get old and Benjamin when I see that and [TS]

00:12:41   so are what is it did you know and I hate to say it and like my kids bit [TS]

00:12:45   fastidious so I he is not this way but there's a classic it just seems [TS]

00:12:50   completely ignorant of snot coming out [TS]

00:12:53   the nose it's just used to it he doesn't mind it you can see one you know the [TS]

00:12:57   really the really the really classic pro levels not kid will have loved the crust [TS]

00:13:02   around the rim right and then just all kind of moist droplet like pine tar [TS]

00:13:07   following and then you know might take years for that one to fall but it's [TS]

00:13:09   there [TS]

00:13:10   it almost looks like they're like one of those like a lifetime [TS]

00:13:13   well you know how like there's like two kinds of aliens and star wars the ones [TS]

00:13:18   that look like totally there like some kind of outlandish design and then [TS]

00:13:21   there's the ones that are like mostly human but have like a little thing [TS]

00:13:24   different + like it looks like you know maybe you're an alien who has like a [TS]

00:13:29   crusty rock formation and coming out where your nose should be uh huh uh [TS]

00:13:35   here's what I think this is what my wife says i think i might be getting this [TS]

00:13:39   wrong but I feel like what she told me was you keep your kid home officially if [TS]

00:13:44   they have a fever vomiting or diarrhea [TS]

00:13:49   otherwise they're good to go you keep eating like literally have a nopin and [TS]

00:13:54   as long as they're not vomiting an inconvenience people he's just really [TS]

00:13:57   pregnant isn't that nuts i mention that honestly I whether it's official or not [TS]

00:14:04   it sounds at it seems to me like that is a practically speaking the way it goes [TS]

00:14:11   like and those are the think the fever is the one where it's like a kid with a [TS]

00:14:15   fever is so miserable [TS]

00:14:17   it's they discovered your little you feel it so much more like I hate having [TS]

00:14:22   a fever but I remember the fever's i still remember the ear aches and fears [TS]

00:14:25   of my childhood title that still in my in my mind I feel like I still remember [TS]

00:14:30   thinking maybe short of my first migraine like this is the most [TS]

00:14:33   excruciating thing I will ever feel is like the feeling of being out of your [TS]

00:14:38   body and yet incredibly connected to the pain in your body when you have a fever [TS]

00:14:41   and then also liked having the same dream over and over [TS]

00:14:44   mmm yeah yeah look at the school listen geography today John huh [TS]

00:14:48   I remember the thing I remember about having fever as a kid was how severe the [TS]

00:14:53   chills were and what a great name for the symptom that is I mean it's kinda [TS]

00:14:57   obvious but it it sounds like a Stephen King novel and when you're a kid having [TS]

00:15:01   the chills for me at least I remember [TS]

00:15:04   oddly it there was nothing you could do you you could stop swimming in and [TS]

00:15:09   lighter fluid and light me on fire and it wouldn't for me up you know i love [TS]

00:15:12   you know I had a fever you know torso and trunk would feel like they were in a [TS]

00:15:15   walk-in freezer right in my head my feeling was in a microwave at the same [TS]

00:15:19   time and I could not stand anything touching my skin right and like end up [TS]

00:15:24   like helping me right in Mike the real life like you know I think it's only [TS]

00:15:29   like 20 degrees here in Philadelphia today it's 26 was very familiar with you [TS]

00:15:34   go out and weather like that and it's unpleasant but eventually your skin [TS]

00:15:37   starts to burn you know there's my god i don't know there's some kind of way that [TS]

00:15:40   you're nervous sort of compensate for this and they're like all right we gotta [TS]

00:15:43   destroy cold we're gonna you know even this out when you have the chills [TS]

00:15:46   especially as a kid like you said it's so much more sensitive to cold just [TS]

00:15:49   never stops it it it and it it's the worst [TS]

00:15:54   let's like you know I having a time to google this so I'm just gonna guess but [TS]

00:15:58   you know what is that something is happening something is telling you your [TS]

00:16:01   body is way out of whack and i think i think what a fever is doing is whatever [TS]

00:16:05   it is that caused causing the fever is trying to raise your body temperature to [TS]

00:16:09   kill that thing [TS]

00:16:10   yeah what is just sweat it out sweat it out that salty that's what happened i [TS]

00:16:14   didn't fight the fever and then last but not not this night not not thursday [TS]

00:16:18   night going today but wednesday night going into Thursday I sweated it out i [TS]

00:16:22   woke up as a as a breathing crease crease thing so so wins day it's friday [TS]

00:16:27   as we record this but like let's say around if you can remember in your state [TS]

00:16:32   around lunchtime wednesday what was your prognosis do you like you know what did [TS]

00:16:36   you feel like oh this is gonna be something i get over or this is going to [TS]

00:16:38   be like a to weaker or it's just gonna be you know what it's gonna be [TS]

00:16:41   I never had I i watched Say Never not come with her but I haven't been sick [TS]

00:16:45   for like more than a handful of days and years [TS]

00:16:48   I'm you know I have to say I'm unfortunate to have overall very good [TS]

00:16:52   health you not to sweat it out [TS]

00:16:54   yeah I I but I I wouldn't have guessed that I would feel as good as I do today [TS]

00:16:59   i thought i was looking at it maybe like through the weekend type thing [TS]

00:17:03   let me tell you thanks what a pathetic thing is an adult like the high point of [TS]

00:17:06   your week is you get sick anymore i love it [TS]

00:17:11   let me tell you that there's not like I got a free model or something I gotta [TS]

00:17:14   concluded with here's a feels bad [TS]

00:17:17   it's my wednesday my wednesday is I had no idea I was getting sick i woke up and [TS]

00:17:22   and actually I should say when I woke up I didn't really even think that I was [TS]

00:17:28   sick I just felt sore and I thought you know that boy I'm really bad shape [TS]

00:17:32   because I'd you know run some errands for you know like monday and tuesday [TS]

00:17:35   times from you know walked a couple miles and my legs felt so store I was [TS]

00:17:39   like that is pathetic that my legs feel so sore after just with normal urban [TS]

00:17:45   walking huh [TS]

00:17:47   I'm and then I started like thinking a little bit more about how i felt and i [TS]

00:17:51   was like you know what I'm sick and I'm . all I'm hot and it's like the heats [TS]

00:17:54   not on high [TS]

00:17:55   I've got a fever and then i realized i was just parched with thirst and I was [TS]

00:17:59   like this is good and I realized I it just dawned on me very slowly like I've [TS]

00:18:04   got the flu or something and I thought I'm parched with thirst [TS]

00:18:07   I I i cannot i just need something cold to drink but I really want it had to be [TS]

00:18:13   bubbly I hadn't needed fizzy water because it the idea of drinking [TS]

00:18:16   stillwater was absolutely disgusting to me it just felt like it would I normally [TS]

00:18:22   don't like to drink stillwater but at this moment is getting once you really [TS]

00:18:25   get in fizzy water there's something slightly revolting about room [TS]

00:18:28   temperature flat water and it's exaggerated when i'm sick in the same [TS]

00:18:32   way that coffee doesn't taste good or I'm sick only something fizzy taste good [TS]

00:18:37   it like it's the way my my tongue feels I need the bubbles to like kind of burn [TS]

00:18:41   the sick off the tongue or something so I go downstairs and all my all my [TS]

00:18:45   sodastream bottles are empty [TS]

00:18:47   that's my own fault because I'm the only one in the house to drink the stuff it's [TS]

00:18:51   not like I can't blame anybody else because nobody else drinks it so i go to [TS]

00:18:56   fill one up and put it in the the penguin and I start pumping it and it [TS]

00:18:59   makes that six sound when one at the canisters empty so they'll co2 canisters [TS]

00:19:04   empty now months ago I had switched from keeping this pear canisters under the [TS]

00:19:10   sink to keep them down on our first floor which is sort of a basement garage [TS]

00:19:13   level we just know living area down there but it's not really a basement [TS]

00:19:17   because it's sort of street-level but its ground level and we have I got [TS]

00:19:21   storeroom down there and keep them there too as a courtesy to 2a me to not take [TS]

00:19:26   up space under the sink with with my own fizzy water thing that i only have to [TS]

00:19:30   replace every couple weeks so I go downstairs and I'm barefoot but it's [TS]

00:19:34   only like 20 degrees outside and it's like it's tile floor and it's just so [TS]

00:19:39   cold it and I just I couldn't take it so i'm down on the first floor and it's a [TS]

00:19:43   stone i added i would say that the floor was around negative 30 or 40 degrees [TS]

00:19:48   that's pretty cold and i go back to work [TS]

00:19:52   just one of the properties it like a concrete kind of just like it's not [TS]

00:19:55   created style it's sometimes even worse i think i think tile will typically be [TS]

00:19:59   40 to 60 degrees cold and sacraments and that's why you gotta put water in your [TS]

00:20:03   tub i go to the back room and where they are and i read stay I gotta get down on [TS]

00:20:08   the floor to findings and all three of the ones i have their they're all empty [TS]

00:20:12   already know [TS]

00:20:14   so apparently at some point my system is I have fork i keep four canisters of the [TS]

00:20:18   the co2 and when I have three empties I go to the williams-sonoma across town [TS]

00:20:24   and and you know swap the three old ones out for three new ones and then I begin [TS]

00:20:28   my fourth is the one that so apparently I screwed that up whenever I swapped the [TS]

00:20:32   last one out but so i'm left with with nothing I've got nothing and i'm already [TS]

00:20:36   down there on this cold floor [TS]

00:20:38   no I've got no fizzy water but I need something fizzy so I had a beer [TS]

00:20:43   oh good for you and internet that's got the performance characteristics [TS]

00:20:47   yeah yeah it's busy and so did the beer doesn't freeze when it's sitting it was [TS]

00:20:53   an outsider was in downstairs refrigerator that was in the [TS]

00:20:55   refrigerator your regular refrigerator primary refrigerator that so I had a [TS]

00:20:58   beer and went back to bed but i haven't i think is going to tell you that's [TS]

00:21:01   totally permissible because you're hydrating you're helping to sweat it out [TS]

00:21:04   and you're getting the busyness that would prevent you from not being [TS]

00:21:07   disgusted by fire water right so that woke back up around noon did to help you [TS]

00:21:13   sleep at all [TS]

00:21:14   yeah well it was about an hour then I took a shower which is the best I've [TS]

00:21:19   felt you feel good intersect you feel good when you take a shower [TS]

00:21:21   6a day it's the backs right yeah it's like grabbed routes mount I mean her 6x [TS]

00:21:28   know it's literally only thing it will give me relief or make me feel like me [TS]

00:21:34   feel less awful [TS]

00:21:35   for a little while and then even for a little while after i get out i'll [TS]

00:21:39   continue to feel like less awful it's the only relief and if you have a cold [TS]

00:21:42   and if your stuff in some way the steam you know it temporarily opens the up and [TS]

00:21:46   stuff like that just feels good so I felt I started feeling better again I [TS]

00:21:50   got dressed put some nice clean clothes on and and I was going to go out and buy [TS]

00:21:55   I couldn't I couldn't make it far enough away there's no way at in my state I was [TS]

00:21:59   going to make it far enough to get the co2 cartridges I was gonna buys some [TS]

00:22:04   Pellegrino or some perrier or something that you know just a block or two away [TS]

00:22:08   and so I'd i went to the store and we didn't have any orange juice in the [TS]

00:22:15   house either so i think i went to the store and the only stuff i wanted to buy [TS]

00:22:19   12 x 50 bottles of fizzy water some orange juice and i forget what else [TS]

00:22:25   something else so that those little cans of san pellegrino the orange ones you [TS]

00:22:29   know what I mean [TS]

00:22:30   oh yeah those are nice with a little wrapper on them yeah exactly what the [TS]

00:22:33   little wraparound sort of like a cross between fizzy water and and soda [TS]

00:22:37   you know the reason and it was like the heaviest stuff you can possibly buy from [TS]

00:22:42   from a market and I i realized that i $FULLPHONENUM i realize exactly who I [TS]

00:22:47   felt like what my posture look like and the pace that I was walking at and and [TS]

00:22:51   my capabilities of carrying these groceries is I was C Montgomery burns [TS]

00:22:56   you look like a question mark [TS]

00:22:59   yes but like I didn't have this is I don't have the strength to keep my back [TS]

00:23:04   straight and your you're a tall fellow so you you bet that was pretty pretty as [TS]

00:23:11   you walk in with a little orange sodas all that's so sad but here i am on [TS]

00:23:17   friday and i feel you're not you know the really looks like you got the [TS]

00:23:20   instacart there in Philadelphia [TS]

00:23:22   actually I don't know how that works oh my god I can't believe you think that's [TS]

00:23:26   and I was it would get it to me within an hour [TS]

00:23:30   well in San Francisco it's usually two hours depending how busy they are it's [TS]

00:23:34   two hours but sometimes they have one hour [TS]

00:23:35   availability yeah yeah I'll bring it right out to you but no but yeah I just [TS]

00:23:41   instantly just the dreaded even leaving the house in a situation like that it's [TS]

00:23:45   just can't do it i will add that amy was busy [TS]

00:23:49   at the time she did I forget where she was but she was out of the house and and [TS]

00:23:52   so it wasn't as though amy was there and wasn't willing to help me I i needed to [TS]

00:23:56   help myself or remained completely parched just keep telling yourself that [TS]

00:24:00   thinks she saw that I was getting sick and got the hell out anyway you're right [TS]

00:24:08   about the kids as the source i feel like if we could now I mean we don't want to [TS]

00:24:11   kill all the children but if we could not immediately know if we could isolate [TS]

00:24:15   them we could just collect all the children of the world and and you know [TS]

00:24:19   Lords of the fly them like let's send them to Australia because I didn't have [TS]

00:24:23   any land down there put them all in Australia for maybe like an 18-month [TS]

00:24:26   stretch who said some of them obviously will be killed by spiders I well I mean [TS]

00:24:32   that's inevitable that is that a stereotype John that their strikers [TS]

00:24:36   all-stars just this giant deadly spiders [TS]

00:24:39   yeah I feel like yeah I would say Australia most of Australia is pretty [TS]

00:24:43   much like that room in indiana jones and the temple of doom [TS]

00:24:46   that's kind of what i imagine like not and maybe a little better lit but yeah [TS]

00:24:50   absolutely [TS]

00:24:51   huh yeah yeah what you got you got to play howler monkeys you got you got a [TS]

00:24:56   killer wombats like it's just two people with big knives [TS]

00:25:00   I don't know it sounds like a pretty rough place i I'm just picking a place [TS]

00:25:03   that's isolated you know but you but yeah wow if we could just eliminate [TS]

00:25:07   children for about a year-and-a-half it isolate children for also merge [TS]

00:25:12   especially somewhere dry where they could sweat it out you expect whatever [TS]

00:25:15   you'd like you got a year to be sick [TS]

00:25:17   get out here since we would eradicate every disease known to man out of you [TS]

00:25:21   every contagious disease at least known a man may be other than STDs but the [TS]

00:25:27   rest of the world let's hope they don't discover Australia really makes a little [TS]

00:25:32   wild [TS]

00:25:33   yeah I had in my head that stds might not be helped by this but in terms of [TS]

00:25:38   diseases like cold since the night in terms of diseases like colds and flus if [TS]

00:25:42   we could get rid of the children for about a year to have just to let these [TS]

00:25:45   things they would just die right out and we just got one day a week during that [TS]

00:25:48   you're scrubbing everything you know [TS]

00:25:51   well here's the thing and I'm gonna shut up about this i think the hand-washing [TS]

00:25:54   thing makes a huge difference and my kids preschool they washed hands you [TS]

00:25:58   wash hands when you like grow [TS]

00:26:00   and kids you wash hands when you arrive at school you wash hands when you leave [TS]

00:26:04   school and you go and you wash hands at every transition point throughout the [TS]

00:26:07   day and i'm not a hand-washing lunatic except that i have seen the difference [TS]

00:26:11   and I I know what a difference it makes it doesn't it won't like stop your kid [TS]

00:26:16   from getting sick but it makes a huge difference because you just think about [TS]

00:26:20   like we go downtown we ride public transit we go to the movies and then [TS]

00:26:23   make it like you know grab some popcorn and sticks and around like are you [TS]

00:26:26   kidding you have any idea where your hand has been do you know how much of [TS]

00:26:29   San Francisco is on your hand right now it's true [TS]

00:26:33   yeah I mean you know she sits on the floor and public transit like don't do [TS]

00:26:37   that like what you would be doing now in her school now [TS]

00:26:40   no no the real busy they're all busy the can wash hands all the time and so she [TS]

00:26:46   gets sick a lot more I i realized i realized i see the logic of the [TS]

00:26:51   legislation you know the the employees must wash hands that there's it must be [TS]

00:26:55   a sign that states those exact words and every restaurant [TS]

00:26:58   yeah I think you have to put up the sign i don't know if you have to reinforce [TS]

00:27:01   the actual hand-washing but I with the thing that always gets me about those [TS]

00:27:05   signs is the idea that if you're not an employee [TS]

00:27:08   whatever you want to do yeah but conversely also usually kind of love the [TS]

00:27:14   idea of somebody who works in the kitchen that has to be room minded to [TS]

00:27:18   wash their hands after taking a shit and just touch the door [TS]

00:27:23   no I know we started watching kitchen nightmares and I don't eat out anymore [TS]

00:27:33   oh this is terrible but I don't want to show what have you done to this avocados [TS]

00:27:39   who's the host that job at the gordon ramsay oh that's what I thought [TS]

00:27:45   yeah you know what Jonas and Amy like to watch that show i I'd choose not to [TS]

00:27:50   you should not you should i eat the hills it as a hotel hell which is [TS]

00:27:54   similar with hotels and he seems like he you know he's a pretty smart guy seems [TS]

00:27:58   like I feel like every episode he seems a good guy who probably wants to do a [TS]

00:28:02   little less coke that he does he's very very animated [TS]

00:28:05   um yeah kind of a hair trigger but you know it's what it's formulaic you know [TS]

00:28:10   comfort food [TS]

00:28:11   how would we get the kids to Australia would it be by like a ship or how would [TS]

00:28:15   that work [TS]

00:28:17   I oh I see some my friend John Rother can I have talked about is how useful it [TS]

00:28:24   would be like instead in lieu of like middle school you send kids out to work [TS]

00:28:30   in a national park for like three years because just to confirm i'll get him [TS]

00:28:34   away from us get out of society and get him somewhere where they can really be [TS]

00:28:37   exhausted they have to make their own clothes from things that they find while [TS]

00:28:40   they're working during the day you know it'd be kind of like you want to be like [TS]

00:28:44   you know hunger games meets lord of the flies which is I guess already kind of [TS]

00:28:50   lord of the flies but yeah because for everybody be good for that maybe become [TS]

00:28:56   strong you get a tan [TS]

00:28:57   you don't have to make a bunk bed maybe what we could do instead that those are [TS]

00:29:02   all good very good ideas what we could do instead is maybe maybe pick one of [TS]

00:29:06   the state's here in the US and make it a note no children state and then we'd [TS]

00:29:11   have subsidies so all the children who are already felt like a smoking area in [TS]

00:29:15   in restaurants [TS]

00:29:16   exactly exactly what I'm thinking but we'll do the whole state [TS]

00:29:20   well we'll have some kind of subsidy system setup so that everybody already [TS]

00:29:23   has children you know we'll be able to move somewhere nice and then we'll let's [TS]

00:29:30   just see what happens to the remaining adults in that state how frequently they [TS]

00:29:34   they get cold or flu and i'll bet that they don't get it at all [TS]

00:29:38   plus they can afford to retire except for the ones and then and then we did [TS]

00:29:41   we'd have to have something in place for you know what do you what do you call it [TS]

00:29:46   when you quarantine quarantine for anybody who leaves and goes to like say [TS]

00:29:50   disney something like that you have to do i see that have to pass through his [TS]

00:29:55   own we make sure that they haven't brought any kid germs without yeah [TS]

00:29:57   that's pretty good i think a lot of people would love that based on the [TS]

00:30:00   glares that we get when we eat out i think a lot of people would be happy [TS]

00:30:03   with that state you know maybe there could be a state just for people who you [TS]

00:30:08   don't want to be around kids or have kids or just even know kids exist and [TS]

00:30:13   then there could be well I guess technically be a san francisco's noe [TS]

00:30:15   valley will be a place is dedicated just to people who are way too into their [TS]

00:30:19   kids you know what I mean it would be like will be like that like the first [TS]

00:30:23   time you go to like [TS]

00:30:24   the parents meeting for a school and you're like a little tikes yeah but it's [TS]

00:30:30   just like I'm really glad I'm not any of the people who are here [TS]

00:30:34   I don't like the way anybody here is raising their kids [TS]

00:30:37   Tyler calimary calimary have you done your Mandarin shut up just shut up [TS]

00:30:46   what percentage of children today are named Skyler Skyler Skyler you got Tyler [TS]

00:30:51   uh I I think Skylar might have been hot a while back there's a lot of [TS]

00:30:56   Annabella's we get a lot of what do you what do you get there [TS]

00:31:01   I've lost track I used to keep track that was it was a it was a real thing [TS]

00:31:04   mileage on it started school and I've have since lost track when you and the [TS]

00:31:08   worst part is I could really see me doing this [TS]

00:31:10   the problem is me like i start i have about an explosion of love laughter [TS]

00:31:15   before i even have a second to realize how awful it is to laugh at a child's [TS]

00:31:19   name [TS]

00:31:19   let's go but I feel so bad [TS]

00:31:24   anastasia helicopter we're like my daughter has a friend who's little [TS]

00:31:28   sisters named narrows and I can't decide it's kind of a super cool name [TS]

00:31:32   it's kind of pretty weird but it's cool like there's that's a cool name is I [TS]

00:31:36   what is that what I have a game of the houses house game of thrones house of [TS]

00:31:39   cards yeah exactly it's from that show is that lady with the Dragons no [TS]

00:31:42   spoilers [TS]

00:31:43   that's kind of a cool name but now she's got like a Welsh name she's got a spell [TS]

00:31:46   to people for the rest of your life [TS]

00:31:47   I don't know you try to see the thing is everybody suffers from this because you [TS]

00:31:51   try and get ahead of it up this happen to you when we picked our kids name it [TS]

00:31:55   was not like a super popular name and it seemed like this is one of the John [TS]

00:31:59   syracuse of things were like you think you're doing this thing outside of the [TS]

00:32:02   culture and the evolution and like a year later ever your kid has the same [TS]

00:32:05   name is everybody and look how did that happen well now their name in tropical [TS]

00:32:10   storms winter storms after after my kid that's it that's so embarrassing you [TS]

00:32:15   know if they've got like stuff like t-shirts you should buy him I'm sorry [TS]

00:32:21   about his party that's such a bummer we you know what he likes to do i'll take [TS]

00:32:27   she's happy as a pig in a poke today what she likes to do she this is like a [TS]

00:32:30   holiday for her is that she likes to watch when there's a big snowstorm [TS]

00:32:35   coming [TS]

00:32:36   and they know it's coming she likes to watch the local news [TS]

00:32:39   oh yeah that's the local news [TS]

00:32:43   oh this is my boy this is they've been waiting all year for this day maybe a [TS]

00:32:47   few years for this day [TS]

00:32:48   ok there's a local Philadelphia news channel and they had a live report [TS]

00:32:55   she called me in to see it should be rounded on the TV she's like you have to [TS]

00:32:58   seize right before we started recording their live report from a hardware store [TS]

00:33:02   in Virginia Virginia that was rationing shovels and and the salt because some [TS]

00:33:13   people want to buy 10 of them yeah exactly [TS]

00:33:16   now that is Panik two shuttles for customer limit what if i break 5 and [TS]

00:33:22   that's really really odd [TS]

00:33:25   there's so many odd things about that white wife Virginia why that problem why [TS]

00:33:30   report it [TS]

00:33:31   it's just like what with this to face the fact that he rejected to decide that [TS]

00:33:35   that was the right one to show in philadelphia i don't know i sent you the [TS]

00:33:40   link here i'm looking at the page i've noticed is your old address may be but [TS]

00:33:43   essential link there to a forecast so right now you got your help God you got [TS]

00:33:48   21 to 28 Fahrenheit today five-day inches of snow starting an evening [TS]

00:33:53   tomorrow those that tomorrow's the big day right yeah tomorrow's supposed to be [TS]

00:33:58   the big sister Saturday you get 12 to 18 inches throughout the day and windy [TS]

00:34:02   until evening is that was some right you're going to you might get like a [TS]

00:34:05   foot and a half of snow that's what the sand and honestly it what makes me think [TS]

00:34:09   it's going to be bad is that it's actually it's gone up but usually they [TS]

00:34:14   give you the worst you know like 48 72 hours in advance they make a dead [TS]

00:34:18   terrible prediction take to get everybody you know the big to get [TS]

00:34:23   everybody hysterical want to get to get their attention and then it gets closer [TS]

00:34:26   and closer and then they dial it down this one it was like they were talking [TS]

00:34:29   about like eight to ten inches a couple like a day or two ago now they're [TS]

00:34:32   talking [TS]

00:34:33   jeez look at that but it would this be what like 17 to 23 inches total god [TS]

00:34:41   all the things that we've benefited from with cord-cutting one of my favorites is [TS]

00:34:46   we just don't get local we don't watch it ordinarily but when we do it is an [TS]

00:34:52   affiliate culture shock [TS]

00:34:53   yeah it really does and it's not so much that it's changed [TS]

00:34:56   it's just that it's no longer can seems normal to me and so that the way that [TS]

00:35:00   they handled stories whether that's like this or whether it's just like it [TS]

00:35:04   averaged a it you know the stuff that they had decided to highlight and the [TS]

00:35:09   way that they do it really really stands out in the way that I feel like in in [TS]

00:35:13   some ways it has not the actual format and style of local TV news like evening [TS]

00:35:20   you know and nighttime news has not changed that much since I was a kid but [TS]

00:35:25   it's changed enough in a couple ways I mean there's no I don't know how this [TS]

00:35:28   started but whenever became the tradition to have like top of the hour [TS]

00:35:31   news you got news sports and weather and you always put weather is that still the [TS]

00:35:34   case is not know how they do it oh yeah you put weather lasts because you want [TS]

00:35:37   people to watch all the really there for us to find out whether we're coat [TS]

00:35:39   tomorrow what co2 what do you give you they give you just tease in the first 30 [TS]

00:35:43   seconds [TS]

00:35:44   that's right yeah exactly what cell there's some surprising weather news [TS]

00:35:48   that you have gotten you've gotta wait for this every day every single day 365 [TS]

00:35:55   days a year there is some surprising and important weather related news and cathy [TS]

00:36:00   is going to tell you about it later in the broadcast coming up right after [TS]

00:36:03   magnum p.i are deadly fecal bacteria living on your door knob right tell us [TS]

00:36:09   where after like in the first three minutes of the broadcast Kathy oh come [TS]

00:36:12   on and all she's gonna say is Jim you just wait until you hear this here [TS]

00:36:17   fucking book is filled my god this is we better wait that looks like a couple of [TS]

00:36:22   let's talk about this apartment is exactly but the way the way I feel like [TS]

00:36:27   it has changes it like as much as it felt very glossy when I was a kid in the [TS]

00:36:31   nineteen seventies oh my goodness [TS]

00:36:32   everything that the motion graphics everything so much classier now and it [TS]

00:36:38   just really seems like they've gotten it down to a science where it's extremely [TS]

00:36:42   professional chipper people reporting horrible horrible things like horrible [TS]

00:36:48   dangerous things like I mean and i'm far from the first person to say this but [TS]

00:36:52   I'm always struck when I watch it that [TS]

00:36:54   it's so much more about American culture and society makes sense to me when i [TS]

00:36:57   watch local news is i think like wow if you really did watch this as your one of [TS]

00:37:02   your primary sources of information about the world I'd be losing my mind to [TS]

00:37:05   I'd be like I be stocking up on guns and shit snow shovels as well it's like you [TS]

00:37:09   just you really feel like like people like everybody is getting killed [TS]

00:37:13   everybody everybody's getting killed or they're dying from something they can't [TS]

00:37:16   prevent I absolutely i think it's why I've said this to me before like most of [TS]

00:37:21   our family lives within an hour of Philadelphia overwhelming majority of [TS]

00:37:26   our family and no nobody ever wants to come see us here and i think i think [TS]

00:37:30   it's because of TV news because they think if you travel with in the city [TS]

00:37:34   you're either gonna get shot or the building you're in is going to catch [TS]

00:37:38   fire stop fucking you're getting one of those are increasingly all-too-common [TS]

00:37:44   fire stabbings that they have in Philadelphia [TS]

00:37:48   yeah I don't know gosh I hope it goes okay now like who you like a dark a [TS]

00:37:53   c-list is down there in the Virginia there get anymore so yeah that's the [TS]

00:37:57   epicenter [TS]

00:37:59   yeah that's the epicenter and DC the whole what I call it down there about [TS]

00:38:03   when sure i'll tell you what i got a point about the TV news before we move [TS]

00:38:07   off it i gotta the thing that strikes me when I watch it now and I grew up with [TS]

00:38:12   it and they certainly did the same thing back then but I just accepted it as [TS]

00:38:15   that's how you do TV news is the way that the correspondence you know there's [TS]

00:38:20   the anchor person at the desk maybe there's two maybe there's a man and a [TS]

00:38:23   woman but the others that you know an anchorperson or to a desk in the studio [TS]

00:38:27   who lead the broadcast and introduced every story and then they go to a [TS]

00:38:30   correspondent and no matter what the story is no matter no matter what sense [TS]

00:38:37   it makes the correspondent needs to be out doors somewhere in the in the TV [TS]

00:38:44   broadcast area and it doesn't matter what the story is [TS]

00:38:48   they could just be on some random street corner but they help people be reporting [TS]

00:38:53   the video for example they might be doing something about like a Federal [TS]

00:38:56   Reserve report for that matter but I've got to be outside somewhere outside of [TS]

00:39:00   walmart in order to like deliver that and then they and then they absolutely [TS]

00:39:05   positively must find someone walking by [TS]

00:39:07   I who will stop and talk to them for 10 seconds about the story [TS]

00:39:11   ya know site yeah it's there some I think increasingly it is they've got to [TS]

00:39:17   have at least two or three people and i think that the way one way that become [TS]

00:39:21   so addicted to watch is there's always something happening there's always [TS]

00:39:25   another transition coming there's always another thing you're looking forward to [TS]

00:39:28   happening [TS]

00:39:29   you're teasing the next thing you throw to the other person the motion graphic [TS]

00:39:32   goes on this is like that like when i watch CNN to me it feels good demo reel [TS]

00:39:35   for like a motion graphic company [TS]

00:39:37   it doesn't feel like there's really anything very substantial to learn you [TS]

00:39:40   can get it down to three bullets basically what happened [TS]

00:39:43   CNN does but i think the the style of it is very engrossing to people [TS]

00:39:47   yeah yeah alright lemme take a break here and tell you about our good friends [TS]

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00:40:40   awhile i actually just added to my to my desktop Mac here at an external storage [TS]

00:40:46   drive where I keep all my old movies and video files and stuff like that i think [TS]

00:40:51   it has like a terabyte of data on it and I don't have very good connection took [TS]

00:40:55   like two weeks for this thing to to to upload the first line the first one took [TS]

00:41:00   me i think over a month but but after that it's all incremental and it'sit's [TS]

00:41:05   just itches goes at it took like two weeks but now i've got this whole [TS]

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00:41:18   terabyte drive you [TS]

00:41:20   just upload that it might take awhile maybe you have fast internet maybe it [TS]

00:41:24   won't take awhile just have to get going to jump in to make a suggestion here [TS]

00:41:27   yeah because i love this product i sent you a link right now don't run this test [TS]

00:41:30   right now but go to school if y'all are out there go to backpage.com / speed [TS]

00:41:34   test and they will tell you a little bit about how the throttling works [TS]

00:41:37   throttling you can choose have automatic or manual throttling so if you want to [TS]

00:41:40   not have it be disruptive to what you're doing you're not local network you can [TS]

00:41:43   tell it that you can see that automatically you can do it or you could [TS]

00:41:46   just say open the sucker all the way up because I really want this stuff to get [TS]

00:41:50   to the cloud the reason i mention this to go to this page and it will run a [TS]

00:41:53   speedtest on your connection and let you know exactly how much stuff you will be [TS]

00:41:58   able to upload per day so you can idea how long it will actually take you you [TS]

00:42:01   won't be wondering like when will this be done [TS]

00:42:03   they make that easy for you and if you can afford to lose that thing wide open [TS]

00:42:06   and you don't get thing by your provider by cable town that stuff will just flow [TS]

00:42:09   straight into the cloud [TS]

00:42:11   I think the cable tempting me when i was uploading a terabyte drive they could [TS]

00:42:15   you slow down [TS]

00:42:16   I i think they did but it's hard for me to tell because the cable towns always [TS]

00:42:19   doing anyway the back-to-back plays it works great that's it that's it you just [TS]

00:42:24   install this thing you create an account and then your stuff is there in the [TS]

00:42:27   cloud and and if you ever need it you can get all of your stuff put on a USB [TS]

00:42:31   drive and they will you know shipped by UPS or FedEx or something like that if a [TS]

00:42:36   catastrophe hit but most of the time when people restore stuff from from back [TS]

00:42:39   plays it's just like one file at a time if you just need that one file and [TS]

00:42:43   you're away from your computer you can use their iOS app from your phone to get [TS]

00:42:47   to any of the files that you have backed up and back please get that file and [TS]

00:42:50   send an email to whoever you want to send it to right there from your phone [TS]

00:42:53   right there it is such a relief that's the thing I always emphasize with back [TS]

00:42:57   places when you know that everything you have is backed up in some other way in [TS]

00:43:01   addition to whatever else you're doing locally in your office you know like [TS]

00:43:05   with super duper clones or whatever else you might be doing to know that you've [TS]

00:43:09   got your stuff packed up in the cloud off with somebody you can trust [TS]

00:43:14   it's such a relief really is i can't recommend them I'll enough where do you [TS]

00:43:18   go to find out more if you haven't signed up already [TS]

00:43:21   which I can't believe that there are still listeners to the show who haven't [TS]

00:43:24   shared on them John shame on them [TS]

00:43:26   shame on them ah it this is a sponsor who I would like to get rid of i would [TS]

00:43:30   like to get rid of by having everybody who listens to this show [TS]

00:43:33   signup and and use them and then back place would say this is great we love [TS]

00:43:37   the response but now nobody else is signing up because we've everybody's [TS]

00:43:40   already signed up and that would make me feel great because it would make me feel [TS]

00:43:44   good to know that everybody out that you guys are backing up to somewhere in the [TS]

00:43:47   cloud go here get a no credit card required trial go to backblaze dot-com / [TS]

00:43:53   daring fireball that's all you have two backblaze dot-com / daring fireball I [TS]

00:44:01   think years ago i think i mispronounced it i think I I said years ago on the [TS]

00:44:06   back please read i call him black babies or something black plays and they went [TS]

00:44:10   and registered the domain but it imply that I it's interesting to see if [TS]

00:44:17   they've still got it [TS]

00:44:18   no black days maybe black plays some mispronounced sounds kind of dirty and [TS]

00:44:24   does a little bit [TS]

00:44:25   oh yeah go to black plays go to black please calm I'll of that do it go go to [TS]

00:44:31   black lace . com and i've I believe that they resisted because of mr. nch no i [TS]

00:44:37   didn't show [TS]

00:44:39   oh yeah totally redirects that's great like this oh my thanks the black glaze [TS]

00:44:46   for doing the evil that's the evil twin [TS]

00:44:51   backblaze the ones got the handlebar mustache is identical jet-black a [TS]

00:44:55   jet-black handlebar mustache and now looking at google snow on the internet [TS]

00:45:03   and and with the new section lot of pictures of empty grocery shelves and [TS]

00:45:10   people in line waiting to buy things [TS]

00:45:12   here's the thing i under that I've said this before in years past I understand [TS]

00:45:17   the need to stock up on groceries we've done it we've already gone and we've [TS]

00:45:20   bought some some staples we're going to make sure that we get not just food to [TS]

00:45:24   eat but maybe you know actually you know meals that we have in the house ready to [TS]

00:45:29   prepare turn some 1.75 liter size bottles but it still boggles my mind the [TS]

00:45:36   way that it's there are certain staples that literally sell out like I i'll [TS]

00:45:41   guarantee you that when we finish recording the show today if i go to get [TS]

00:45:44   you to the [TS]

00:45:45   acme down the street that doesn't mean no bread no bread no right because all [TS]

00:45:51   because you know when you're really really gonna attack my Snow you you're [TS]

00:45:55   gonna want to have some bread [TS]

00:45:58   oh my God we're out of bread but ordinarily there's so much bread in that [TS]

00:46:04   supermarket that there's so much bread that's like it that is ridiculous [TS]

00:46:08   realize how big that section is until it's been totally cleared out during a [TS]

00:46:11   snowstorm right and it's when it's cleared out you realize that all the [TS]

00:46:15   weird bread is going to be all that kind of dark bread only like your older [TS]

00:46:21   relatives like right place your bread so dark stuff with weird seeds they don't [TS]

00:46:28   know what weird seeds yeah exactly [TS]

00:46:31   oh my goodness why don't we make we make light but I you know this well that's [TS]

00:46:35   probably listen this won't come out until the damage is done right we should [TS]

00:46:40   probably watch our cats [TS]

00:46:41   yeah we might come out probably come out tomorrow okay I'm gonna come out later [TS]

00:46:45   today could come out later today never know what happened uh-huh [TS]

00:46:49   god I don't know why what else do people buy eggs that's another one to where [TS]

00:46:54   it's good to have eggs and house i enjoy eggs and I think maybe there's like some [TS]

00:46:58   brochure that went around in like from the 5276 the same shit everybody buys [TS]

00:47:02   you buy canned soup you buy bread right you gotta have non-perishable items [TS]

00:47:07   right you got to have things that you could make over the hot plate that you [TS]

00:47:10   don't actually own there's all the things that you need but you go into [TS]

00:47:13   this lizard brain thing where you just click and your brain goes into buy stuff [TS]

00:47:18   at the grocery store mode and and then of course it's like the stock market [TS]

00:47:21   just like trading places you go in there and you see everybody freaking out and [TS]

00:47:25   that makes you freaking that's exactly it is i think that maybe you go in there [TS]

00:47:29   and you think I want to get bread because i'm supposed to go back and just [TS]

00:47:33   gonna pick a little bread all i got but you see through the guide next year's [TS]

00:47:38   take it two loaves of bread and you think I'm better [TS]

00:47:41   I better get punching some lady in the next because she's touching your butter [TS]

00:47:44   top ok and then you all of a sudden you're buying three loaves of Wonder [TS]

00:47:48   Bread I've never bought the people in your life but you feel like if you don't [TS]

00:47:53   buy these three loaves of Wonder Bread you won't be able to get an hour from [TS]

00:47:56   now [TS]

00:47:57   yeah like it seems like you should probably buy crap your stuff than you [TS]

00:48:01   normally buy because maybe it'll last longer like don't get to Progreso like [TS]

00:48:04   it's generic brands to make that that'll be better when you go into your [TS]

00:48:07   theoretical bunker you bring that along because this shows here that have been [TS]

00:48:12   totally wiped clean of all lettuce so maybe this is a big salad of it maybe [TS]

00:48:16   you have us like a lock-in and yet you make Caesar salad you guys you don't get [TS]

00:48:20   snow in san francisco now I get a lot of weird weather but snow is snow it is not [TS]

00:48:25   something you guys have to do we get our climate it's our clothes on our whether [TS]

00:48:30   it's our climate our climate is very unconventional and the short version is [TS]

00:48:34   that as you probably know is that we have because of our proximity to you [TS]

00:48:40   know what is called the Golden Gate like we San Francisco sits astride a big hole [TS]

00:48:44   in California so basically the cold air over the ocean is a cold air over the [TS]

00:48:48   ocean and it's very hot air over the basin like where they grow a lot of the [TS]

00:48:51   vegetables and that causes some very strange thanks for watching our air is [TS]

00:48:54   incredibly clean because it's basically being washed every day it's been moved [TS]

00:48:57   out and in every day but also mean stuff like you know you might start out at a [TS]

00:49:02   certain temperature in the morning and then it gets colder then it gets warmer [TS]

00:49:07   for an hour from three to four and then plummets again at night and explain [TS]

00:49:11   stuff like why we have it's cold in the winter and the summer it's cold here [TS]

00:49:15   it's warm in october and then it rains for most of em late December January [TS]

00:49:22   February my favorite evergreen WWDC joke WBC is almost always jianjun is you know [TS]

00:49:29   hey first-timers it's a it's sunny California don't bother taking a jacket [TS]

00:49:34   or jeans [TS]

00:49:35   yeah you know the German tourists it's it's it's just evergreen source of humor [TS]

00:49:39   the these poor bastards do i'm going to . California it's like yeah it's gonna [TS]

00:49:44   be like 50 everyday where they used to give out backpacks that was a good for [TS]

00:49:48   attendees that give out backpacks or or laptop bags some sort and you know [TS]

00:49:52   embroidered with WWDC and then the two digits of the year and then like 3-4 [TS]

00:49:56   years ago they started giving out jackets and they've done jackets ever [TS]

00:50:00   since and I ask somebody at Apple wants is that because so many people you know [TS]

00:50:04   and you see people wearing them as it because so many people come in there [TS]

00:50:07   they need them and they get exactly that's exactly it [TS]

00:50:10   in that people you know attendees come up and they say like I can't do the [TS]

00:50:14   German accent but the German accent I got an envelope [TS]

00:50:19   thank you for this jagged I'd be dead without it danke [TS]

00:50:23   yeah you're up to on come to twin peaks know it's really you should do it [TS]

00:50:27   sometimes pretty cool there's not that many things i recommend about San [TS]

00:50:30   Francisco but you drive up in in near the someone you're the geographical [TS]

00:50:36   center of town basically at the end of market street so market street begins at [TS]

00:50:40   the embarcadero the ferry building there's a part of market street you're [TS]

00:50:42   familiar with my Moscow knee right and you go all the way to the end of market [TS]

00:50:45   street the essentially it and it mostly ends it ends at the castro and you can [TS]

00:50:50   see this big mountain and so anyway you go up this big hill to get to my [TS]

00:50:53   neighborhood and twin peaks are these two big mountains in the middle of San [TS]

00:50:56   Francisco and it's where that big Tower is that the robot looking at our you see [TS]

00:51:01   but if you go up there man you can it's clear you get this amazing view of the [TS]

00:51:07   city it's just it's really really beautiful one of the very few actually [TS]

00:51:09   nice things in San Francisco but of course you go up a mountain in san [TS]

00:51:14   francisco and it's like it's you know 10 to 20 degrees colder than it was where [TS]

00:51:18   you were plus it's incredibly windy so you just see these little these ladies [TS]

00:51:23   up there just like selling sweatshirts they just pick up there at eight in the [TS]

00:51:26   morning they just sell sweatshirt all day long younger I want to see . view [TS]

00:51:31   from the Twin Peaks I I feel like I probably had maybe even a majority of [TS]

00:51:37   the people who listen to my show have been to san francisco at least once I [TS]

00:51:40   mean I feel like it's you know it's probably an awful lot i know that an [TS]

00:51:43   awful lot of people who read my stuff and listen to better you know work out [TS]

00:51:47   there and know if you work anywhere even vaguely Northern California of course [TS]

00:51:50   you've been to San Francisco but you know there's probably a lot of people [TS]

00:51:53   who you know just have never had reason to go [TS]

00:51:55   I I feel like you can hear these stories about how the weather in San Francisco's [TS]

00:51:59   incredibly isolated you know from the area around it but you just can't be [TS]

00:52:04   what you walk around within two blocks [TS]

00:52:06   yeah changed you know basically be a different climate right wires that are [TS]

00:52:09   very unclear why is it cold here i'm only I just moved I just gone from union [TS]

00:52:15   square down to you know how the wind blowing from both directions like all of [TS]

00:52:22   a sudden you're down by where they called AT&T [TS]

00:52:24   park wherever the giants play yeah sure it's 50 degrees colder i know i know [TS]

00:52:28   it's bananas right yeah but yeah I hope it all goes i hope it all goes well for [TS]

00:52:33   you know god bless you i hope i hope its hope it's a it's fine . now did you face [TS]

00:52:39   I don't wanna make this little show but I mean like do you face much in the way [TS]

00:52:41   like of damage like when I was in florida and there's a hurricane coming [TS]

00:52:44   there's all kinds of stuff you gotta do to pay all the way from tape up the [TS]

00:52:47   windows to like board over the windows like it you have to do any special [TS]

00:52:52   preparation now you know big snows coming [TS]

00:52:54   no now except stock up on bread that's right you know there's something you [TS]

00:53:00   know what we as a family have it very easy and I understand again this is just [TS]

00:53:04   it's just like kids getting sick if you have a job or you've got it [TS]

00:53:08   it's important that you be there it's snowstorm is a enormous pain in the ass [TS]

00:53:13   I and in fact that it's coming on a weekend could be good news for a lot of [TS]

00:53:17   people but there's still some people who have jobs that they're it's essential [TS]

00:53:19   that they be there huge pain in the ass [TS]

00:53:21   elbow I guess where my office is it's right downstairs so the fact that we can [TS]

00:53:26   easily and and work wise you know a snowstorm is often indistinguishable [TS]

00:53:30   from a normal day for us it's actually kind of nice here you're very you're [TS]

00:53:34   very fortunate and any other generation the idea of having your bedroom your [TS]

00:53:40   office and your bar be essentially the same room you know that's powerful right [TS]

00:53:45   you got everything you need right there [TS]

00:53:47   you know like you like your own personal food court everything you need is right [TS]

00:53:49   there now I like it and and sometimes it really it's just so nice in the city to [TS]

00:53:54   have the big snow come and have very few cars on the road and it's you can go out [TS]

00:53:59   right before the snow turns all gray and black from the cars that eventually get [TS]

00:54:04   back on the road [TS]

00:54:05   everything looks beautiful and it's quiet it is quiet in a way that you [TS]

00:54:10   can't believe that the city could ever be this quiet because in addition to the [TS]

00:54:13   fact that there's no or very few cars on the road the snow is like what would you [TS]

00:54:18   call it a sound dampening soft substance absorbs its it's hard to even describe [TS]

00:54:23   that sound but it's even more live in the suburbs in ohio it's it's a very [TS]

00:54:26   special winter feeling to go outside it's very it's very crisp it's very [TS]

00:54:31   quiet and it's very still [TS]

00:54:33   it just feels like everything has slowed down yeah i remember a couple years ago [TS]

00:54:37   it's very vivid in my mind is Michael op my friend Michael op of brands and [TS]

00:54:41   repose was in town for a conference of some sort or somebody paid him first [TS]

00:54:46   because like a paid speaking I don't know there's a conference or corporate [TS]

00:54:49   thing but he was in town and a huge snowstorm hit one of these you know at [TS]

00:54:53   least a foot of snow type things and we went out to dinner just the two of us [TS]

00:54:57   and there was nobody on the street and you know steak house was open and there [TS]

00:55:04   was only like one other table that was taken only like two or three waiters are [TS]

00:55:08   on shift and we asked the waiter you know like it was just like a huge [TS]

00:55:11   painting ask you like I live in the city what else am I gonna do tonight I don't [TS]

00:55:14   care [TS]

00:55:14   so it was like empty steakhouse super-quiet great meal and I feel like [TS]

00:55:19   it's because I whoever was in the kitchen it was like well what are we you [TS]

00:55:22   know we weren't cooking like three things might as well make it perfect [TS]

00:55:25   great meal and then we just went out and just walked back to his hotel and then I [TS]

00:55:29   walked home and it was it was like we were the only two people in the whole [TS]

00:55:32   city of Philadelphia it will amazing it was like you can't make that up [TS]

00:55:36   oh that's such a great feeling yeah you know I have something I Syracuse and I [TS]

00:55:42   have ended up talking about on the show that we do is I am I'm always interested [TS]

00:55:46   in what I would call it seemed exposing events right and like the kinds of [TS]

00:55:50   things where you don't realize how fragile something is until some [TS]

00:55:55   complexity or difficulties introduced and that's when the scenes get exposed [TS]

00:55:58   and that's the thing I feel bad about what the city is if you look at sea like [TS]

00:56:02   sexy like Atlanta which is already so on the edge in terms of you know I think it [TS]

00:56:07   has something like them you know in the aggregate the most commuted miles per [TS]

00:56:11   day without question yeah there was there was a New Yorker story about a few [TS]

00:56:15   years ago it's ridiculous people doing its it's actually it's actually [TS]

00:56:17   shockingly bad in its scale and the amount of time right i mean it's pretty [TS]

00:56:21   bad must feel to me like an hour or something like that [TS]

00:56:23   yeah is that right now it's something like that I ask something like that but [TS]

00:56:26   then you introduce rain or if God forbid you introduce no to that were even the [TS]

00:56:30   smallest bit of snow like they don't there's not many accommodations that the [TS]

00:56:36   city of Atlanta can make for snow and that's the part where it starts to feel [TS]

00:56:39   like they sit like this is the apocalypse you know we think about so [TS]

00:56:42   many places like what happens in California when it rains a lot [TS]

00:56:45   it happens everywhere like the first time it rains after it hasn't rained for [TS]

00:56:48   a long time [TS]

00:56:49   there's all this oil and [TS]

00:56:50   you know various detris like just sitting there on the streets and so once [TS]

00:56:54   you start you know zooming around on their that water basically i don't know [TS]

00:56:58   i'm not a scientist but like that makes the road is very slippery or this the [TS]

00:57:01   drains you know the ground can absorb all the water because it's been so dry [TS]

00:57:05   it's just I don't know I that's why I always brace for the first big snow the [TS]

00:57:10   first big you know rainstorms like will you know can we take I was talking to [TS]

00:57:16   dan frommer about it on this show [TS]

00:57:18   who is that less that last time so we have to say about to end in vegas when [TS]

00:57:22   it rains that the cars are terrible people don't know how to drive in a [TS]

00:57:25   couple of vegas resident said it's you know in addition to the fact that the [TS]

00:57:28   people here don't really know how to drive with wet roads it really is [TS]

00:57:31   actually worse than typical wet roads because we gets a little rain that there [TS]

00:57:35   is like a coating of oil on it on that on that what you call it the tarmac for [TS]

00:57:40   somebody who claims to like CES wow he he quickly I feel like I I every [TS]

00:57:47   impulsive ever had to go to see yes i'm really glad i didn't listen [TS]

00:57:50   that sounds so awful i think i'm going to eat you and I should go together eat [TS]

00:57:55   yourself lucky you're committed for next you think we are going to do some [TS]

00:57:58   reporting their I think we should i think that i think that within a couple [TS]

00:58:02   of weeks i'll just file that away and do heavy do another show next year whereas [TS]

00:58:06   say I'll go next [TS]

00:58:07   well knowing your record with this out all make you this this mostly promise [TS]

00:58:11   I'll go if you go but I don't think you're gonna go so I'm not worried i [TS]

00:58:14   don't want to go [TS]

00:58:16   oh my goodness and then that description of like the shuttle buses like how long [TS]

00:58:22   it took to go somewhere in a shuttle bus like I walk everywhere in las vegas i [TS]

00:58:25   can't imagine driving right if it's anywhere on this trip you walk there [TS]

00:58:28   I mean what's the worst thing that happens you you get an alcoholic [TS]

00:58:31   beverage and walk it's not hard but like oh my god and imagine all those people [TS]

00:58:37   who are like us being there at the same time how miserable that would be no I [TS]

00:58:40   that's part of it [TS]

00:58:42   I remember one time I was in Vegas and it was just by coincidence at the end of [TS]

00:58:45   some massive convention you know I don't even know what it was but it was must [TS]

00:58:49   have been like CES sighs dirty clothes they're about and [TS]

00:58:55   I we write waiting for a cab somewhere and it was like taking forever and when [TS]

00:58:59   i asked will just walk and then it somehow came up that like we we heard it [TS]

00:59:03   that they said that the at the venetian that there was a 33 hour wait for cabs a [TS]

00:59:10   three-hour wait for camp because it was the end of this massive convention and [TS]

00:59:14   everybody here pouring yeah but think about that like who leaves for the [TS]

00:59:17   airport three hours in advance nobody [TS]

00:59:20   so in other words when they tell you it's a three-hour wait to get to the [TS]

00:59:23   airport that means you're missing you're missing your flight and that's all [TS]

00:59:26   that's the thing you can't walk you can't walk know that neither thing is [TS]

00:59:30   that airport is not that big it now [TS]

00:59:32   in other words it could it doesn't have that much tolerance for it needing to [TS]

00:59:36   expand and right but so it like there are times when in vegas is you know as [TS]

00:59:42   much as they can support truly massive conventions conferences we're going to [TS]

00:59:46   call it there are times when it still is [TS]

00:59:49   you know ten pounds of shit in a five-pound bag oh well you know it's [TS]

00:59:55   interesting if you think about you know I don't know it is interesting kind of a [TS]

00:59:58   planned community and [TS]

00:59:58   planned community and [TS]

01:00:00   ways because there seems to be even as much as Las Vegas has pivoted toward [TS]

01:00:06   more or less family-friendly or more upward downscale there still may be [TS]

01:00:11   still mostly been marching in the same direction with las vegas since what the [TS]

01:00:15   forties right i mean that the basic idea of what Las Vegas is for has not changed [TS]

01:00:20   that much and I have to imagine like the infrastructure to support that it mainly [TS]

01:00:25   needs to grow and get bigger but doesn't need to change that much [TS]

01:00:28   we're always going to need prime rib shrimp liquor and chips [TS]

01:00:32   well I part of this is suddenly going to need like like you know I guess you know [TS]

01:00:37   you get live animals occasionally like a white tiger dies you get a fresh one but [TS]

01:00:40   like other than that I mean it's gotta be a pretty steady supply train for [TS]

01:00:43   making that place run and I bet it's pretty easily disrupted oil [TS]

01:00:46   part of the problem is that they they have a monorail that goes up and down [TS]

01:00:49   the strip but it's terrible and dan was saying on the show that one . it was [TS]

01:00:54   like an act however long waiting on the morrow but how the monorail is is [TS]

01:00:58   terribly terribly located it's like way behind this trip I remember the first [TS]

01:01:04   time I tried to take it was like this is great we'll get out of these expensive [TS]

01:01:06   cab rides will take the monorail down and then it there like these signs like [TS]

01:01:11   monorail this way and you start you go through the casino and they're like you [TS]

01:01:14   know keep looking for signs and say where the monorail is and it's going [TS]

01:01:17   keep going keep going keep going [TS]

01:01:20   now you're going through the employee parking lot and it's monorail this way [TS]

01:01:24   and you're like wait a minute [TS]

01:01:26   monorail and then it you still get to get there and find out it's an hour wait [TS]

01:01:31   it's really nice but really I mean the big but one of the big problems in vegas [TS]

01:01:35   is that they really are in desperate need of some public transportation just [TS]

01:01:39   and it wouldn't be that complicated really just up and down the strip and [TS]

01:01:43   they don't have it [TS]

01:01:44   I've often thought what do you do if you're you're staying at the venetian [TS]

01:01:48   your conference is over you have a three o'clock flight and it's one in the [TS]

01:01:52   afternoon and you think you're doing a responsible thing by leaving two hours [TS]

01:01:55   it's not far if you want your own account it's like as soon as you pull up [TS]

01:01:58   from the airport you can already see the strip [TS]

01:02:00   yeah it feels very very close like anything in the desert it's kind of [TS]

01:02:03   difficult to tell how far away something is traffic permitting it's usually a 10 [TS]

01:02:07   or 15-minute cab ride so it's two hours in advance and then they tell you it's [TS]

01:02:12   going to be three hours until you [TS]

01:02:13   get a cab what do you do what do you do you know in another time you know even [TS]

01:02:19   probably 20 years ago I would say you call the airline and try to reschedule [TS]

01:02:22   it and pay what used to be I'm gonna say a $75 fee something like that it used to [TS]

01:02:27   be that flights were more expensive but you could do more with them i think [TS]

01:02:31   nowadays almost everybody buys and pull this out of my ass but you know like [TS]

01:02:35   nowadays almost everybody buys refundable and non-refundable to write [TS]

01:02:39   you always buy the least expensive thing but like you know certainly back when my [TS]

01:02:42   dad was flying back when there were three different classes on every plane [TS]

01:02:45   and you know you'd they were costly but you could do a lot more with them I feel [TS]

01:02:49   like even 20 years ago most airlines for 7,500 bucks you can change your flight [TS]

01:02:54   I don't know what you do in that case I because it's sort of a can't get there [TS]

01:02:57   from here situation where you're going to be going to hire hire a local car I [TS]

01:03:00   mean one of the locals the local third that local the modern-day thing the [TS]

01:03:05   thing that you can do now is that you have a cellphone or maybe you can start [TS]

01:03:08   stabbing your finger at your airline's website and see if there's something you [TS]

01:03:12   can do right there right now you know you could just do it right now the other [TS]

01:03:16   thing I thought you could do is if you're in that situation is take your [TS]

01:03:18   suitcase or suitcases and schlep them not to the airport but maybe see if you [TS]

01:03:23   can walk across the street to a different hotel and see if you can get a [TS]

01:03:26   cab there but my thought would be wait if there's a big line here [TS]

01:03:30   yeah there's probably going to be a big line and every hotel that is nearby [TS]

01:03:35   because the nearby ones that the same ones that the same people have been that [TS]

01:03:39   yeah that's that's one of those things I'm so interested in these sorts of [TS]

01:03:41   things something that feels like cause but it's actually have an effect like in [TS]

01:03:45   that instance the fact that there's a lineup for cabs is not the source of the [TS]

01:03:49   problem is the result of the problem you know what I mean right it could just be [TS]

01:03:52   that everybody's trying to get a cab right now so let's see here you stay at [TS]

01:03:57   the wynn is that right now usually I'm just trying to look here so can I can't [TS]

01:04:02   look at that [TS]

01:04:03   so you can see like mandalay bay and Luxor practically from the airport [TS]

01:04:07   yeah yeah it looks so close to the mob museum [TS]

01:04:13   wow so [TS]

01:04:17   sneezes you made coffee might have caught something from here and this [TS]

01:04:21   I you know what I was gonna say anything but I was feeling fine i got on this [TS]

01:04:24   call I even wash my hands I win-loss wynn las vegas is that what you stay at [TS]

01:04:31   yeah that's where I usually stick ok then you got the Palazzo the venetian [TS]

01:04:34   the mirage treasure island there's the Flamingo ok that's that big corner so [TS]

01:04:40   that's the corner las vegas and flamingo is that big corner right every time my [TS]

01:04:44   daughter took her first steps at the bellagio i think i told you that story I [TS]

01:04:50   don't know you did [TS]

01:04:51   yeah i was doing a talk to the senior management at the founder of circus Olay [TS]

01:04:56   is very purple house in Las Vegas [TS]

01:04:59   well I got a call from my wife that in our room at the bellagio are exactly one [TS]

01:05:04   year old daughter had taken her first step by the way that you mention it was [TS]

01:05:07   her first birthday cover your nose honey we have to get through the good to get [TS]

01:05:13   to our room feel like depending on our life turns out that good it's gonna be [TS]

01:05:18   an amusing anecdote how many therapists will have to hear that story of writers [TS]

01:05:23   did you gonna be a very amusing anecdote like wow that's quite a story or it's [TS]

01:05:30   going to be well nothing more David that it all started out of this is so simple [TS]

01:05:37   it seemed like such a joke [TS]

01:05:38   what else is going on [TS]

01:05:43   well I could take I could take another break and think it's all about something [TS]

01:05:46   like John all get it all get a Seltzer wash my hands [TS]

01:05:48   I'm going to tell you about our good friends at mail route these guys are [TS]

01:05:53   experts on email I t expect departments are expected to do more every year but [TS]

01:05:58   they supposed to do it with less money because budgets are going down nobody [TS]

01:06:02   spending money on this stuff anymore everybody expects a lot of stuff to be [TS]

01:06:06   lower cost whatever [TS]

01:06:07   here's something you could take off your hands if you're in an IT department in [TS]

01:06:11   charge of stuff you could take off handling worrying about spam and email [TS]

01:06:17   virus and you know sketchy attachment stuff like that use mail route instead [TS]

01:06:23   here's how it works [TS]

01:06:25   it is a simple service [TS]

01:06:27   it doesn't host your email they're not asking you to move your email to trust [TS]

01:06:30   them with with storing your email all you do is you change your MX records for [TS]

01:06:35   your male domain 2.2 them first [TS]

01:06:38   your email goes through them and then mail route forward it on to the mail [TS]

01:06:42   servers you already have so nothing changes nothing moves you don't have to [TS]

01:06:45   ask all of your users to go into their male clients and and change all of their [TS]

01:06:50   you know settings and everything like that to the users of male everything [TS]

01:06:54   stays the same because they still connect to the same servers with the [TS]

01:06:57   same account but because of the mail goes through mail routes filters first [TS]

01:07:01   before it gets to your servers all the spam is gone all this email with junk [TS]

01:07:05   attachments and stuff like that it's all gone [TS]

01:07:09   it couldn't be more simple couldn't I it couldn't work easier and its really [TS]

01:07:16   really accurate [TS]

01:07:18   I mean this stuff is as accurate of a spam filtering as I've ever seen and you [TS]

01:07:25   get access to you can have things mailed to you you can have like a report mailed [TS]

01:07:29   to you or to any of the users on the domain with like hey here's the you know [TS]

01:07:36   here's what we did for the last week here's the bunch of maybe emails that we [TS]

01:07:40   fly to spam take a look at him if any of them are incorrect here just click this [TS]

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01:07:53   service takes an enormous problem off your hands and it gives you the [TS]

01:07:57   flexibility to host your mail the way you want it how you want without [TS]

01:08:00   worrying about how your mail server deals with spam because they just take [TS]

01:08:05   it right out what are you going to go to find out more go to their domain here it [TS]

01:08:08   is it's mail route . net / tts mail route . net / tts the initials of the [TS]

01:08:15   show the talk show / tts or if you want to you can even email them and ask [TS]

01:08:20   questions just email them at sales at mail route . net if you have questions [TS]

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01:08:30   without spending a dime and if you use that URL mail route . net / tts you get [TS]

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01:08:40   of the account so if you use it for 20 years you'll save ten percent for the [TS]

01:08:43   whole time [TS]

01:08:44   couldn't be a better deal so go to mail route . net / tts and get rid of email [TS]

01:08:52   as spam and viruses I've heard some more than one success story actually they [TS]

01:08:58   imagined was just talking about this but for a lot of people say that's where [TS]

01:09:00   they've had a domain where what 10 years ago even 10 years ago they were like you [TS]

01:09:05   know what this one is out there like my there's just too much spam at every [TS]

01:09:11   conceivable user at this I will never get this back you know god bless it [TS]

01:09:14   gmail couldn't help this and you're done and I've heard people go in and [TS]

01:09:18   attachment route to that domain and like it's like a miracle [TS]

01:09:22   it's like something from an infomercial we're actually that suddenly they've got [TS]

01:09:25   that domain back it's so good at getting spam with a scalpel that you get your [TS]

01:09:29   own domain back and like what more can you say I used to talk about the there's [TS]

01:09:34   some of the techniques that male uses that I feel like that it's like so it's [TS]

01:09:39   not even worth it anymore like this it's their their problem to worry about the [TS]

01:09:43   details of how they do it but it is it's amazing [TS]

01:09:45   surgical is a good way to describe it yeah yeah you know you don't hear about [TS]

01:09:49   the impingement on the show as much as you used to [TS]

01:09:51   it's alright yeah this is perfect on this particular show ya the talk show [TS]

01:09:55   you mean like for example like when he is the co-host exactly [TS]

01:09:59   well technically this is this is mark 3 of how do you refer to first of all for [TS]

01:10:04   anybody's listening and it's the talk show right right we should be clear [TS]

01:10:08   about that right is clearly marked three [TS]

01:10:12   this is mark 3 yeah who do you think about the future talk show what mark for [TS]

01:10:16   would look like would you bring Jonas on maybe it's got the same show that the [TS]

01:10:23   top with the biggest change in the talkshow well obviously when you you and [TS]

01:10:27   we're doing it together anymore was quite different but like you know I like [TS]

01:10:31   say for example only sandwich loved the original version of the talk show that [TS]

01:10:34   you two did I could never get into it I could never get into it was when you and [TS]

01:10:38   dad were doing it that I really liked it but uh yeah yeah what do you like when [TS]

01:10:43   you think about that that must be pretty weird that's a lot of change over time [TS]

01:10:46   I it does at it's weird for me because it never it [TS]

01:10:51   it creeped up on me as it as a serious part of my I don't we called business [TS]

01:10:58   income you know it's you know your job [TS]

01:11:01   yeah it's pretty job now it always seemed like I was a guy who rode website [TS]

01:11:05   or i would even at the point when like the first incarnation where the dates on [TS]

01:11:09   that first incarnation you can still see it [TS]

01:11:12   what is that the talkshow dotnet so those are the first I said time for a [TS]

01:11:22   while [TS]

01:11:23   look at that no way 2007's that can make the 2007 and when the hell did i start [TS]

01:11:30   doing this shit full-time 2006 so it's you know it was close to it was within a [TS]

01:11:37   year of $YEAR when i started doing daring fireball full time I I always in [TS]

01:11:43   a daring fireball was a career and doing the podcast was you know how something [TS]

01:11:49   you could do on the side and something that the nature of writing a blog as a [TS]

01:11:54   full-time job that I would easily have time to fit in [TS]

01:11:58   look at the episode length 34 minutes 29 minutes or 30 minute 37 minutes 36 [TS]

01:12:06   minutes 31 but some of them are over an hour but most of them are like around [TS]

01:12:10   under 45 years the episode 8 is 19 minutes and 28 seconds my god we spent [TS]

01:12:18   that on white bread today a half-size episode with our predictions for the [TS]

01:12:22   upcoming apple announcement later today [TS]

01:12:24   wow that's amazing [TS]

01:12:30   I'm travel you know what and it just snuck up over time that it is podcasting [TS]

01:12:38   I mean you know this you can you do a couple shows its you know is it doing a [TS]

01:12:45   podcast in two thousand even through at the end of the run of this first one [TS]

01:12:49   which was what the last episode was 29 [TS]

01:12:52   oktober 2009 that was ahead of the time of [TS]

01:12:57   for podcast there just weren't enough people say I'd say even that . still I [TS]

01:13:01   mean it still feels like there's an article every month or so that's [TS]

01:13:07   essentially about the hell podcasts are finally becoming a thing you know it's [TS]

01:13:11   become I mean it's a tired bit for those of us it's even if it's even at a bit as [TS]

01:13:16   a bit at this point to joke about this because it's been 45 for what feels like [TS]

01:13:20   five years now everybody has been doing podcasts in mid-2000 is saying oh that's [TS]

01:13:25   great sounds like that's another you know it's a meta joke because it's like [TS]

01:13:30   once again someone says oh you know if you heard about this thing serial [TS]

01:13:32   podcast which are did like this and this and this are going to really really be a [TS]

01:13:36   thing and oh you know in the mid roll put that another press release so [TS]

01:13:40   somebody has an article about it and it's you know I don't have that much [TS]

01:13:44   doesn't frustrate me that much except that it is it is funny that frustrates [TS]

01:13:48   other people much more than it does me because i think it is this is still so [TS]

01:13:52   very much the earliest of days [TS]

01:13:55   I mean this to me is like as something like Ernie Kovacs was the TV or like you [TS]

01:13:59   may never see another Ernie Kovacs again because our climax could only have been [TS]

01:14:02   any Kovacs at that time you know or or for that matter I mean you think about [TS]

01:14:06   any of those weird shows that were on the forties before they really knew what [TS]

01:14:10   he was going to be don't go back even further what was the movie what movie [TS]

01:14:13   was a smoothly a camera sitting still in filming a bunch of people performing a [TS]

01:14:18   play without sound right I mean right it was you know I I don't know if he gets [TS]

01:14:23   the appropriate amount of credit but somebody like DW Griffith not only had [TS]

01:14:26   much more ambition and how you can tell a story with film but what you could do [TS]

01:14:30   with the camera as its own artifice whereas its own you know tool and then [TS]

01:14:34   introducing like you know doing more than you know having things like clothes [TS]

01:14:37   stops and then getting into things like editing the dimensions of editing that [TS]

01:14:40   we just take for granted today but there was probably 10 or 15 years of [TS]

01:14:44   filmmaking that went on where people were just walking around going I guess [TS]

01:14:47   this is a movie so we think about those and we might have nostalgia for watching [TS]

01:14:52   the sneeze or the kiss or something like that but you know it didn't take 15-20 [TS]

01:14:57   years before we go oh no there really is a vocabulary you know there's a hundred [TS]

01:15:01   eighty degree rule eventually there's all these different things of [TS]

01:15:03   conventions of understanding how [TS]

01:15:05   you know splice time and tell a story with fill in i think it's really early [TS]

01:15:09   days for podcast it's not anything as sexy or sophisticated his film but i [TS]

01:15:13   think it's still very early days [TS]

01:15:15   well that their I've it's the only part of my racket that's still growing like [TS]

01:15:21   the website does not you know any of the measurements that I can't use you know [TS]

01:15:25   RSS subscribers or page views or whatever it peaked a while ago i think i [TS]

01:15:30   was talking about figure was talking about you're talking with dan last week [TS]

01:15:33   yeah about how you know once google reader went away [TS]

01:15:37   actually the numbers will all went down and never really recovered and I don't [TS]

01:15:40   again i don't think that who knows it like how much like this not just so that [TS]

01:15:45   that was the thing but there was probably as like there's a variety of [TS]

01:15:48   different things coming together to create a certain zeitgeist around that [TS]

01:15:51   time right and it broke out including the ascendance of I have to be honest [TS]

01:15:55   with you I told people on Twitter have been mentioning a talk we did at South [TS]

01:16:00   by Southwest 2009 and i'll go back and listen to it once a year or so and I I'm [TS]

01:16:04   still proud of it as something that we did and i love that people still like [TS]

01:16:08   listening to it and so that's 2009 but you know even then we're talking about [TS]

01:16:13   you know the rise of things like Gawker or the rise of things like techcrunch [TS]

01:16:18   even the techcrunch at that point is what four years old five years old but [TS]

01:16:21   like you know you think about like at that point facebook was big but facebook [TS]

01:16:25   was not what Facebook is today [TS]

01:16:26   no you know it I know it wasn't so much that was still the time when we were [TS]

01:16:30   still feeling a little miffed about how much people got their news from [TS]

01:16:34   aggregation sites rather than the sources that were writing them which now [TS]

01:16:37   today seems relatively cool . in comparison facebook didn't even have [TS]

01:16:42   their IPO until $MONTH 2012 which seems crazy because we just talked about them [TS]

01:16:48   is like a pillar of the tech industry you know well we weren't more than a few [TS]

01:16:53   years off of myspace and kind of being the big thing I mean it'sit's that's a [TS]

01:16:57   throwaway line now but a talk ID itself myself with South by Southwest year [TS]

01:17:02   before that I made mention of myspace i mentioned myspace in the inbox zero talk [TS]

01:17:09   from 2006 so you know that seemed like the unvanquished able big player for a [TS]

01:17:16   long time which not everybody looks at laughs [TS]

01:17:18   but like no no honestly that myspace really was the thing for a long time and [TS]

01:17:24   it just seemed like Facebook was gonna be a have nicer typography and be [TS]

01:17:28   tonight you know whatever i'm not going to be like a dork about it but Facebook [TS]

01:17:32   seemed like the next myspace it didn't seem I i I'm pretty impressed with how [TS]

01:17:35   much it has stuck around and grown now in that amount of time [TS]

01:17:39   yeah I wouldn't predict it but for you so with your where you are with daring [TS]

01:17:43   fireball is probably little bit inside baseball but the is it that has the size [TS]

01:17:50   of your slice stayed the same and the pie has gotten smaller [TS]

01:17:57   I don't know be my god I you still seem like very influential in the same [TS]

01:18:00   circles your influential and five years ago but maybe the smaller pie [TS]

01:18:04   yeah i think it's something like that you know and i think that if you pulled [TS]

01:18:09   people and said who's influential writing about Apple I prob I probably do [TS]

01:18:13   better now than I did then but I don't have I have fewer pageviews per month [TS]

01:18:18   than I did then like i don't and i think it is always on our everybody everybody [TS]

01:18:23   does write it and it's you know it's the it fits very well with my you know [TS]

01:18:28   career-long argument that page views are too terrible way to measure anything [TS]

01:18:34   other than how busy your your your version of apache is who I don't know [TS]

01:18:40   people still use apache i use apache imagine if she don't you don't even you [TS]

01:18:46   don't even know if a patch is out but I think about something like and again you [TS]

01:18:50   know you guys got to give me a little bit of past don't follow all this stuff [TS]

01:18:53   super carefully every your site i read six colors I read I more in Macworld i'm [TS]

01:18:58   not a mac and apple follower of a user i'm a super user but i'm not i don't [TS]

01:19:04   follow the business but with that said I mean could you have guessed what four [TS]

01:19:09   years ago that mark Gurman would have risen in a sentence the way that he has [TS]

01:19:14   not that still feels like a story that's not done being told you oh yeah [TS]

01:19:17   definitely I mean I've noticed i feel like i've noticed a change in how you [TS]

01:19:20   talk or think about him you have been you have on the show one time at least [TS]

01:19:24   once maybe twice i think was twenty least once but it wasn't there a time [TS]

01:19:28   when you will put this way I i would love all of those idiots into the [TS]

01:19:32   same group of like who cares why are you talking about rumors stuff but he has [TS]

01:19:36   been it seems to me unique in his ability to get to the right sources that [TS]

01:19:42   he is true he is he doesn't know about stuff for other people and he finds a [TS]

01:19:47   way to make it into a story in a way that a lot of other folks haven't where [TS]

01:19:51   it doesn't really just feel like a blown-up forum site about rumors you [TS]

01:19:54   know what I mean I think he's he's changed that particular game a little [TS]

01:19:57   bit [TS]

01:19:58   oh definitely i was about that so I've had him on twice i had him on last Jesus [TS]

01:20:02   a pretty smart guy and then I had him when it when the show with this this [TS]

01:20:05   incarnation and show is hosted over it mule he was on episode 79 in 2014 [TS]

01:20:14   yeah you know and I died [TS]

01:20:17   he's the most successful rumor Apple rumor reporter ever in my opinion of [TS]

01:20:24   just in terms that it seems like a like a gig that burns people out but also [TS]

01:20:29   just the fact that he seems to be he gets good information [TS]

01:20:33   what seems like a lot more often than other people and they don't care whether [TS]

01:20:36   it's the most popular sites just read the accuracy of what he's gotten right [TS]

01:20:40   not just by throwing a million darts at the board by saying this this this and [TS]

01:20:43   this and most of that's true i think it would be hard to argue that he's been [TS]

01:20:47   the most successful yeah there's a track record [TS]

01:20:49   yeah he's definitely not at darts at the board type of person you know he did you [TS]

01:20:55   know which is it which is to say that what if you predict anything and [TS]

01:20:58   everything and then you know one of them is bound to hit and then you're you're [TS]

01:21:03   good [TS]

01:21:04   ever hear about this are somebody told me about that angle her friend Paul [TS]

01:21:08   Colossus told me about this a couple weeks ago that i guess i have to put in [TS]

01:21:12   the show notes and find it but don't know the last soccer world cup which I [TS]

01:21:17   guess was what like two years ago somebody what they did is they started [TS]

01:21:24   pointing to these tweets from this account that was called like fifa fifa [TS]

01:21:32   corruption fifa is the world soccer organization right that had a Sepp [TS]

01:21:38   Blatter yeah well so so these tweets had all the scores in advance [TS]

01:21:45   the game right right fine it was like Germany Germany's germany will be sweden [TS]

01:21:50   221 and you know so-and-so kicks and kicks a goal late you know extra time to [TS]

01:21:56   to as the you know to break the 1-1 tie and that it would the timestamp on the [TS]

01:22:01   tweet is before the game and hair that's exactly what happened and it went super [TS]

01:22:07   viral it was like holy shit this guy whoever this anonymous person treating [TS]

01:22:11   these things in is it all of his tweets are exactly right and they're all you [TS]

01:22:16   know they've all got the scores right so it's obviously these matches are all [TS]

01:22:21   fixed but what the heck i did was brilliant [TS]

01:22:24   was he tweeted like hundreds and hundreds of tweets with all sorts of and [TS]

01:22:28   and soccer scores aren't that hard to to get it's not gonna be like a hundred and [TS]

01:22:33   thirty five to seven right it's like you know it's going to be three two one nil [TS]

01:22:38   so he tweeted hundreds and hundreds of these tweets with these possible things [TS]

01:22:41   very plausible things that would happen and hadn't hadn't publicized the twitter [TS]

01:22:46   account at all then went and deleted all the ones that didn't come true [TS]

01:22:50   leaving only the ones that happened and then started publicizing the twitter [TS]

01:22:56   account but that's the way a lot of rumor blogging works and government [TS]

01:23:00   definitely isn't that style I mean that you can't go back and delete it but did [TS]

01:23:03   you know certainly these the financial analyst and stuff like that they do it [TS]

01:23:07   all the time they'll say you know ten different things nine of them are [TS]

01:23:09   ridiculous but one of them hit and then they just point to the one that hit and [TS]

01:23:13   they're like see ya that's so interesting when you think of it that [TS]

01:23:16   way and it's their reputations that end up getting made that it's almost like [TS]

01:23:22   you know imagine if you had to sit down in a Google spreadsheet and you know but [TS]

01:23:26   remember there's a website for a while where you can make a bad about anything [TS]

01:23:28   could happen in the future and now you know i think it was called but the idea [TS]

01:23:32   is the artfulness is coming up with what actually constitutes the bet [TS]

01:23:35   like you can't say like Oh computers will get faster within the next year [TS]

01:23:38   like okay thanks that doesn't really help us get to have something very [TS]

01:23:40   specific and quantifiable if you were if you were and ICU would never be this [TS]

01:23:45   person if you're a rumormonger but like if you have to like make that say that [TS]

01:23:50   by this date the following kind of thing will happen my level of certainty is [TS]

01:23:53   this much and basically number of chips are put on the table is this much right [TS]

01:23:57   you're saying like I [TS]

01:23:59   I'm like I'm give this and i'm going to give this a you know five out of 10 on [TS]

01:24:03   how much I pretty sure it's gonna happen and i'm gonna bet this many chips that [TS]

01:24:06   would happen so you sort of like odds you know it'll be really interesting to [TS]

01:24:10   go back over somebody's career and be able to look at those i bet it would be [TS]

01:24:13   i bet it would be especially for some of these dangling analysts can imagine what [TS]

01:24:17   that would be like not just your trip Chowdhry types but like just any of [TS]

01:24:20   these folks out there who have some kind of speculative half reckon about about [TS]

01:24:25   something that might happen [TS]

01:24:26   it's like doing a cold reading you know like you know you walk up to anybody who [TS]

01:24:31   can speak English and say do you have an uneasy feeling about an older man in [TS]

01:24:36   your life right now it's like almost everybody does that would be kind of [TS]

01:24:39   like going to you sometimes feel like you might be slightly more intelligent [TS]

01:24:43   than a lot of people around you like oh yeah actually I do [TS]

01:24:46   interesting interesting interest have you had a loss in your life unless it [TS]

01:24:51   yeah that's the kind of thing where it really feels like a cold reading to just [TS]

01:24:55   some of this stuff you know Apple is going to make a bigger phone app was [TS]

01:25:00   going to make a smaller phone [TS]

01:25:01   well congratulations you just cover the entire board like thanks that's great [TS]

01:25:05   that's really useful you know what this reminds me of a very specific rumor that [TS]

01:25:09   is reading of somewhat recent super widespread yeah and I wanted to bring it [TS]

01:25:15   up with you edges that I didn't write it down and kept in my head but now I i [TS]

01:25:19   remember otherwise I would have forgotten it [TS]

01:25:21   i I'm fascinated by this rumor that the next iPhone is going to get rid of the [TS]

01:25:26   headphone jack and not you not particularly because of the practical [TS]

01:25:31   consequences of living with an iphone that doesn't have a standard head cook [TS]

01:25:34   phone jack but the way that tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands [TS]

01:25:40   of people have reacted to the news [TS]

01:25:42   right there's a petition that somebody put together that apparently everybody [TS]

01:25:47   knows how effective online petitions are especially for things that haven't been [TS]

01:25:50   announced as a reality right it's like it's like being mad about like a [TS]

01:25:55   specular change of wardrobe by the cartoon character tinkerbell it's like [TS]

01:25:59   well you know the funny thing we actually thought about but sure he was [TS]

01:26:03   your position [TS]

01:26:04   so what are people saying what is what is what is the nature of their demanded [TS]

01:26:07   that they not get rid of the audio jack or what specific beef value to me that's [TS]

01:26:13   what's interesting is like the ramifications to get off their butt like [TS]

01:26:16   the ramifications of this are extremely interesting because there are a lot of [TS]

01:26:20   things that this will screw up a lot of things that will allow and just a whole [TS]

01:26:23   bunch of stuff that will change and it all comes down to these little [TS]

01:26:26   implementation details to like what this means in the near term and i find that [TS]

01:26:30   incredibly fascinating here it is it's a there's an online had our online [TS]

01:26:35   petition that has 290 1848 signees and their goal is 300 thousand so they're [TS]

01:26:42   actually a little short of their goal i'll send you the link [TS]

01:26:48   yeah i'll just read it to you though it's this is the way the petition reads [TS]

01:26:53   I think it's very I think the way 3 i'm gonna tell you i try to use my voice to [TS]

01:27:01   put the bold there's a lot of bulb [TS]

01:27:05   oh my goodness there is our apples purple is about maybe you should read it [TS]

01:27:10   maybe you should read it and so apples about to rip off every one of its [TS]

01:27:15   customers are dude there [TS]

01:27:17   Forbes and fast company are reporting that apple plans to ditch the standard [TS]

01:27:22   3.5 millimeter headphone jack when it releases iphone 7 later this year only a [TS]

01:27:26   massive who are these people have been to eat left they finished high school [TS]

01:27:30   only a massive international campaign could force Apple to change course now [TS]

01:27:35   really is that the only thing that can cause it to happen that seems very like [TS]

01:27:38   a very odd thing to just guess [TS]

01:27:39   oh my god that's horrible not only will this force iphone users to do a lot of [TS]

01:27:43   additional cash to replace their Wi-Fi headphones their high five headphones it [TS]

01:27:47   will single-handedly create mountains of electronic waste that likely won't get [TS]

01:27:52   recycled after an em dash according to [TS]

01:27:56   united nations of the ninety percent of this oh my god this is so horrible [TS]

01:28:01   this is and further down this is right out of the Apple quickly but did you [TS]

01:28:05   know that you know that John's you know that they have a corporate playbook out [TS]

01:28:09   of which things are right taken a few years ago it swapped out the original [TS]

01:28:13   that's sounds like shot rock progressive except John would never write this [TS]

01:28:17   poorly a few years ago swapped out the original ipod dock connector with the [TS]

01:28:20   new one making cup with countless courts cables and chargers obsolete [TS]

01:28:24   whoo-hoo further down until Apple to keep the standard headphone jack and [TS]

01:28:28   ditch planned obsolescence ! so I find it fascinating as incredible i do [TS]

01:28:35   realize that if it's true that the headphone jack goes away that it will be [TS]

01:28:40   a inconvenience to people who have purchased third-party headphones and [TS]

01:28:46   more expensive they are them more inconvenient doesn't have to be an [TS]

01:28:51   inconvenience [TS]

01:28:51   well I mean you have to have an adapter or something like that and adapters [TS]

01:28:55   going to stick out rather than it did before I mean it you know it [TS]

01:28:59   yeah just did I mean like first of all it has not been announced yet there's no [TS]

01:29:03   way to know this is the classes one of those classic it's one of those classic [TS]

01:29:07   examples of taking something that isn't a thing yet taking even and how do you [TS]

01:29:12   begin with the idea of us something that's not a thing yet guess like two [TS]

01:29:16   orders of change away from that until you find something that makes you [TS]

01:29:19   infuriated until where people are extremely angry about something that [TS]

01:29:22   hasn't happened so i don't know i guess i just feel like I think it is [TS]

01:29:28   interesting because it would it could mean lots of different stuff for the [TS]

01:29:32   company but if you watch apple at all and I'm gonna say this will happen but [TS]

01:29:36   if it does happen i thought this would be surprising at all especially given [TS]

01:29:39   how much they want slimness given how much they want might want this added [TS]

01:29:43   functionality [TS]

01:29:44   I don't think they're doing it to make you buy new headphones i think they're [TS]

01:29:47   doing because they think that's the future rather than the past right and [TS]

01:29:50   implicit in this line of argument is the idea that they should never get rid of [TS]

01:29:55   this headphone port and that devices that we buy 20 30 40 years from now [TS]

01:30:00   she's still have the same headphone port because at any given to . [TS]

01:30:05   if every device that could have headphones uses the same port there's [TS]

01:30:10   never gonna be a year where it's like well now is the year when nobody's going [TS]

01:30:14   to be put to any inconvenience whatsoever by this right and it's and [TS]

01:30:18   the fact that they they make mention of the 30-pin to lightning adapter thing is [TS]

01:30:23   to me it's like that that the people who sign mr. still upset about that one [TS]

01:30:28   it's it's like yes that was an inconvenience and I know just from like [TS]

01:30:32   talking to people like one of the scenarios where that was really [TS]

01:30:35   inconvenient would be like let's say that you're maybe like you and your [TS]

01:30:41   spouse are on every other year schedules getting new phones you need to get one [TS]

01:30:44   every two years but every other you know one year for 11 year for the other so [TS]

01:30:48   there was a year there where one of the you know household members had the old [TS]

01:30:53   iphone port and the other anyone up [TS]

01:30:56   it was the worst for a while yeah and so it's not just as simple if unless [TS]

01:31:00   everybody in the house witches at once it's not as simple as just well just buy [TS]

01:31:04   a couple of the new ones and leave around but like if there's a charger in [TS]

01:31:07   the kitchen or something like that well now you've got to have a dongle or [TS]

01:31:10   something but it once you know give it a couple years to work itself out and now [TS]

01:31:15   it's a better world because we have a better sport it's smaller works by [TS]

01:31:19   directionally right in hindsight it's like wow that that really worked out [TS]

01:31:24   well let me let me ask you an extremely carefully worded question or ask our [TS]

01:31:27   listeners that extremely carefully worded question how many of you out [TS]

01:31:31   there are using headphones that you bought over five years ago that you [TS]

01:31:37   still use several times a week and do you intend to keep using them for the [TS]

01:31:44   next two years but listen to the next year [TS]

01:31:46   how about this headphones you bought in the last four years that you still use [TS]

01:31:51   more than one time with several times a week maybe [TS]

01:31:54   are there any that you bought over four years ago that you're using everyday [TS]

01:31:57   with with an iphone right and do you intend to use effort of the year because [TS]

01:32:02   here's the thing that's when the lightning adapter came out was four [TS]

01:32:05   years ago follow ya in the amount of time since the lightning adapter has [TS]

01:32:11   come out i am not finding it difficult to deal with not having a [TS]

01:32:17   deepen USB Jack anymore it just doesn't come up it comes up a couple times a [TS]

01:32:22   week maybe or maybe even less because i have to charge my kids ancient ipad2 but [TS]

01:32:28   that that transition is well and truly over with the exception of maybe going [TS]

01:32:33   into a hotel room yet finding someplace that still have those did you see my [TS]

01:32:37   point though like so so what's the legacy problem here do you personally [TS]

01:32:40   have any headphones that like you couldn't afford to replace that you've [TS]

01:32:43   used for more than four years and need to use for the more than the next year [TS]

01:32:47   or so because it's gonna be at least a year i'm going to guess until that [TS]

01:32:50   happens to be the light falls apart already [TS]

01:32:53   because you know that it's not like you get a feel like getting your dad's rolex [TS]

01:32:57   we're talking about headphones that people probably by every couple years [TS]

01:32:59   anyway [TS]

01:33:00   yeah boy an awful lot of you I know and it's nice [TS]

01:33:04   at this point where you we've got internet I i think if you did like a [TS]

01:33:08   thorough you know comb combing of our household and counted up all of the [TS]

01:33:15   pairs of white apple earbuds that are in this house [TS]

01:33:18   look I would not be surprised if the number of working pairs of them was at [TS]

01:33:24   least I don't know 12 maybe more maybe like 15 20 would be surprised and it's [TS]

01:33:31   nice there for like I've got a pair here at my desk and I think i've been using [TS]

01:33:34   these for a while [TS]

01:33:35   those are just my emergency travel headphones I hate him I hate him [TS]

01:33:39   hi they fit my ears pretty well so i use them a meal doesn't really like them but [TS]

01:33:44   uses them and Jonas just goes Jonas likes them a lot so he Jones uses but [TS]

01:33:49   it's nice if you misplace a pair you just find another Perry picking and it [TS]

01:33:52   so it'll be a pain yes you'll get a new iphone presumably if it comes you know [TS]

01:33:56   unless they go one knows what they're going to do that's the other thing that [TS]

01:33:58   makes me so hot crazy about that are not crazy but so like what's wrong with you [TS]

01:34:04   people like we haven't heard the story yet if if it's true we haven't even [TS]

01:34:09   heard what Apple expects us to do is they gonna go entirely wireless is that [TS]

01:34:13   a new thing is it is it going to be the Lightning port let's just say that they [TS]

01:34:19   do include a pair of wired headphones and they plug into the Lightning port [TS]

01:34:24   yes it will be mildly inconvenient that like the 15 pairs of headphones in the [TS]

01:34:27   house already [TS]

01:34:28   no longer work [TS]

01:34:29   on this phone and you have to use the one that came with your phone but [TS]

01:34:31   they're gonna give you a pair of headphones at work going to give you a [TS]

01:34:34   pair of the work and knowing apple I mean apples has been fairly consistent [TS]

01:34:38   about this i call it personally called the one-year warning shot which is the [TS]

01:34:42   Apple will give you if you're looking for it you'll notice a warning shot [TS]

01:34:45   about what's going to go away in a year if you're paying attention that could be [TS]

01:34:49   all kinds of different devices but these are the classic for me is the scrolling [TS]

01:34:52   direction i said okay from now on we're changing the scrolling direction on OS [TS]

01:34:56   10 gonna seem weird but that's going to be you know here's the thing if you if [TS]

01:35:00   it absolutely drives you crazy [TS]

01:35:02   you can go back and change it to the other way like an animal but but we want [TS]

01:35:06   you to know that like this is the way we're moving and if you want to move in [TS]

01:35:09   the direction apple is moving i'm not saying this is good bad or indifferent [TS]

01:35:11   you need to listen for those warning shots and in the next year get your head [TS]

01:35:14   around the fact that this is going to change so yes I think they will give you [TS]

01:35:17   if if this is the change and I don't think there's evidence that there is but [TS]

01:35:20   whatever if there is going to give the right headphones and you know what i'll [TS]

01:35:24   bet you $MONEY you can find some kind of janky ass adapter will let you use your [TS]

01:35:28   beloved headphones but i don't think i think if they do this it's not going to [TS]

01:35:34   be because it makes your life miserable because they want to do something really [TS]

01:35:37   new and that to me is super interesting what could you do with lightning [TS]

01:35:42   headphones there's so many things that are super interesting to me and thinking [TS]

01:35:45   about that and we want to think about also about stuff like could you have one [TS]

01:35:49   else had a charger pack it would be conceivable have a charger pack ahead [TS]

01:35:51   it's just up slightly larger than usual chin on it where you could potentially [TS]

01:35:56   have to plug that in to the lightning and then have put the transmitter and [TS]

01:36:01   off to the side a dangerous for plugging in old-style headphones I mean to me [TS]

01:36:05   that's not beyond imagination [TS]

01:36:06   sure you could do it but wouldn't want to have to look like you think I didn't [TS]

01:36:11   mean it might just be a just a straight adapter would just be like a little you [TS]

01:36:16   know well on a cord probably yeah either on the end maybe it would be on the [TS]

01:36:20   court may be other ways you can get that ipad pro pencil problem if you've got [TS]

01:36:24   the right for the flick full-on long iPhone Jack that's been pretty long [TS]

01:36:29   accounting for what's already inside the phone [TS]

01:36:31   yeah maybe it should be on a little cord because that way in it a little court if [TS]

01:36:35   it was on like a little like you know like inch to inch scale then it wouldn't [TS]

01:36:40   be like a [TS]

01:36:41   Chris breaking off your thing in your pocket but the size of one of those [TS]

01:36:44   splitters like where you want to split into two and you get two separate courts [TS]

01:36:47   coming out something along those lines [TS]

01:36:49   I like that without that would fix the legacy problem is it elegant know but [TS]

01:36:53   welcome to the future like you're gonna buy new headphones anyway especially I [TS]

01:36:57   don't know either way either gonna use this old 3.5 millimeter port forever [TS]

01:37:03   forever or any time scale or eventually somebody is going to ship a product that [TS]

01:37:09   doesn't use it and so I i had i don't get it i really do enjoy them so I [TS]

01:37:14   here's the thing i really do wonder if it's true i wonder if this actually is a [TS]

01:37:18   rare case in my opinion of a deliberate leak by Apple to vent a whole bunch of [TS]

01:37:25   the anger almost an entire year in advance so that when it is announced it [TS]

01:37:32   doesn't come as a shock to nearly as many people who has done the most [TS]

01:37:38   significant and reliable reporting working out apparently reliable [TS]

01:37:42   reporting on this I i guess the guy at Fast Company ok ok i guess and notably [TS]

01:37:51   not German so he words [TS]

01:37:53   yeah Forbes and fast company is what the petition says that they don't know they [TS]

01:37:58   do have links to it at the bottom so if you go to that petition page that [TS]

01:38:01   helping Forbes let me look at their page anymore [TS]

01:38:05   iphone 7 leaks quote confirm Avila banding headphone jack so i got this [TS]

01:38:11   like it's like they've got a different dictionary exactly it when they did put [TS]

01:38:16   the word converted quotes that's great that's great that's just a little better [TS]

01:38:22   than putting proves it in quotation what's it's like reality but maybe not [TS]

01:38:29   the Fast Company headline is it's true [TS]

01:38:32   colon apple will drop headphone jack to make the iphone 7 slimmer comma says [TS]

01:38:36   source I i would say that the Fast Company was probably the most reliable [TS]

01:38:42   it's also locate so I didn't having exactly ask you this do you think this [TS]

01:38:46   will happen i do okay because i feel like it has to happen eventually [TS]

01:38:51   and so why not now [TS]

01:38:52   ok and what are you what are some of the benefits i guess the most obvious one [TS]

01:38:58   apparently is that it is the gating factor for getting the phone any thinner [TS]

01:39:03   well maybe the counter-argument to that is that the current ipod touches are [TS]

01:39:09   significantly thinner than the iphone the current iphone and so and they still [TS]

01:39:15   have the standard headphone jack and there are ipods other you know like [TS]

01:39:21   regular non iOS ipods that are even thinner still that still have that port [TS]

01:39:26   but like on the ipods that are thinner that have that port that there's like a [TS]

01:39:32   chin area where that the inserted part of the headphone jack doesn't actually [TS]

01:39:37   go underneath the display remember which makes it easier engineering lies on the [TS]

01:39:43   ipod touch it does its it it could you could make a significantly thinner [TS]

01:39:48   iphone and keep this port but without question any every port you remove is [TS]

01:39:55   got to make it the device smaller and lighter [TS]

01:39:58   yeah when it's also i mean there seems like there's several i'm an engineer [TS]

01:40:01   obviously but you know it's comments and let them that if ya gettin worked out [TS]

01:40:06   and don't even replace it with another port of any kind of this every every [TS]

01:40:10   every dingus you can take off of there it could mean all kinds of things it [TS]

01:40:13   means it means more space to do anything with that area including what components [TS]

01:40:16   you can put their in its place [TS]

01:40:17   remember also we're talking about like at least one three quarters of an inch [TS]

01:40:20   of depth you've got an engineer around with that [TS]

01:40:22   yeah i think this and it's already got that depth accounted for i actually [TS]

01:40:26   think if you could pick the brains of like a hardware engineer at apple who [TS]

01:40:30   work specifically on these problems of how do we cram all the stuff we [TS]

01:40:35   absolutely need and get the biggest possible battery that we can given the [TS]

01:40:39   insane [TS]

01:40:40   thinnest that Jony Ive's team has saying we're supposed to build this at i would [TS]

01:40:46   say i would bet that if you talk to one of the engineers on it works on that [TS]

01:40:50   here's what Johnny's team says we're supposed to be able to build how do we [TS]

01:40:53   make this reality that the depth of the jack into the device is actually a [TS]

01:40:58   bigger problem than the 3.5 millimeter diameter as well as I'm gonna I don't [TS]

01:41:04   think I don't know electronic spend as well as i'm guessing being one of the [TS]

01:41:07   most difficult parts in terms of moisture the Lightning I don't know I [TS]

01:41:12   feel like did I talk to you about my weird lighting thing last year where one [TS]

01:41:17   particular pin on my lightning cable had turned like a bluish green all of my [TS]

01:41:23   chargers know the exact same pin on both sides and it and I wondered if it was a [TS]

01:41:30   hardware virus but basically LOL @ and then also know my devices were charging [TS]

01:41:35   as well and it looked like basically an aquamarine is that the kind of dark blue [TS]

01:41:41   green yeah like a dark blue green crayon had been very lightly smudged on the [TS]

01:41:45   same pin 6 different lightning Jax is that insane but it must i'll bet the [TS]

01:41:52   problem must have been with the device that you had a device where the internal [TS]

01:41:56   what caused what is the question it's the driver Jeff being talking about the [TS]

01:42:00   hardware virus that Google to hear about that now i don't think i have i love the [TS]

01:42:03   story that hardware virus i'm giving minutes of mull that over in your head [TS]

01:42:07   that a hardware virus at Google where basically people's DVI Jack what he [TS]

01:42:14   called he called the the female on the laptop to Jack I think it's people's DVI [TS]

01:42:19   Jack's stopped working the port sorry the port stopped working and they all [TS]

01:42:24   had this same they appear to other people would notice that they were going [TS]

01:42:28   to plug in the projector didn't work they go and look and this one pin had [TS]

01:42:33   gotten my kind of basically been distorted inside all these different [TS]

01:42:37   people's laptops in and so that you would go and if you're whatever room you [TS]

01:42:42   look at the plug and that plug was messed up your laptop is messed up [TS]

01:42:46   suddenly everybody's noticing all the laptops and all the plugs are messed up [TS]

01:42:49   and you can figure out why write it all started with one slide projector having [TS]

01:42:54   a [TS]

01:42:54   you can pin and passing that defect on to any piece of hardware that plug into [TS]

01:42:58   and then consequently each piece of pop art hardware the plug into that computer [TS]

01:43:03   then got it to which would then pass it on everybody else that's insane [TS]

01:43:08   it's incredible what an amazing idea i've never heard of that before and now [TS]

01:43:13   it's kind of amazing it doesn't happen more often so that was my first thought [TS]

01:43:15   isn't that how Skynet started is that the 190 Robocop Terminator oh sorry yeah [TS]

01:43:23   that's right that's right that's how that started so i don't i don't know [TS]

01:43:27   much about that you know what's funny is like I i can't believe i'm living in an [TS]

01:43:32   age where my phone feels too thin and my touch ID seems too fast like it when I [TS]

01:43:37   take the naked robotic or out of the leather case and I hold in my hand I [TS]

01:43:40   have to tell you my success prime feels like a little too thin [TS]

01:43:45   it's not that comfortable to me I don't think I wanted to be any thinner [TS]

01:43:49   yeah and I wish I now to get like right now and see if I have any messages i use [TS]

01:43:53   my pinky now because I want to be able to see the lock screen before it turns [TS]

01:43:59   on it's so impossibly fast now could you ever imagine the damage something a [TS]

01:44:03   grown man with bitch about ya know it still gets me when I want to take a [TS]

01:44:06   photo like something is happening like oh my god I got a picture of this right [TS]

01:44:09   now but right I developed the habit a few years ago when they added the [TS]

01:44:12   feature where there's a camera shortcut on the lock screen swipe up remembering [TS]

01:44:16   that in but and I've when i'm normally using the phone i I'm getting better at [TS]

01:44:22   if I really do want to see the lock screen I know to use the side button to [TS]

01:44:26   wake it up instead of the fingerprint button that's good yeah but when I but [TS]

01:44:32   when I mean like that emergency holy cow there's a squirrel eating a you know [TS]

01:44:37   eating a duck eating it [TS]

01:44:38   yes there's a score leading a duck I don't have time to think i have to think [TS]

01:44:44   to use that side button I just instantly go to the home button and then I met you [TS]

01:44:48   know that's yi like muscle muscle reflex and now i'm looking around for all man [TS]

01:44:52   right yeah and now it's like my twitter client is open and I'm like a look at [TS]

01:44:56   this onto it starts shaking an old man like always and I wanna get back to the [TS]

01:45:01   screen i was on by the way I want to i'm thinking about writing about this but I [TS]

01:45:05   actually looked up I had the same problem you just went to verb [TS]

01:45:08   only a minute or two ago there about the the word Jack and is Jack when you talk [TS]

01:45:12   about the headphone jack is the jack the the mail or is it the female it ends up [TS]

01:45:17   here's the deck different dictionary definition is it good [TS]

01:45:20   I socket with two or more pairs of terminals designed to receive a jack [TS]

01:45:25   plug so it is the female but it in the dictionary this is the Apple dictionary [TS]

01:45:30   which is what like american heritage or something they describe it as needing [TS]

01:45:36   two or more pairs of terminals so like I i feel like the dictionaries wrong on [TS]

01:45:40   that case because every you know it doesn't seem like they have a definition [TS]

01:45:43   that would work with headphone jack where there's just one terminal with [TS]

01:45:48   that that's jack or socket jacket [TS]

01:45:51   jaaack jacket a socket with two or more pairs of terminals designed to receive a [TS]

01:45:57   jack plug so that's the female headphone dingus Jack they're saying that she [TS]

01:46:02   called Jill there's hey there they should I thought of that that it does [TS]

01:46:07   seem like maybe the right [TS]

01:46:09   the jet airplane food and a rocket Jack so they're saying it's a jack is the [TS]

01:46:15   socket and the jack plug is the plug [TS]

01:46:19   oh ok in the what you call the pig face thing that you get 110 electricity out [TS]

01:46:25   of in your house is that out legal an outlet i would normally call it an [TS]

01:46:30   outlet but i might call it which we jack your plug into the socket you call that [TS]

01:46:33   an outlet yeah my call it a jack casually i would prefer to call it Jack [TS]

01:46:37   because I feel like it's jack is a pretty good word [TS]

01:46:40   uh-huh i feel like with headphones in casual speaking you can kinda it doesn't [TS]

01:46:45   make any logical sense but that you can kind of get away with calling the male [TS]

01:46:48   and the female jack [TS]

01:46:50   no just take that if you got your headphones just take the jack and plug [TS]

01:46:53   it into the jack jack in the jack [TS]

01:46:55   yeah yeah absolutely take the headphone jack and just plug it right into the [TS]

01:46:59   jack on the phone white what do you are what do you make of the the apparent [TS]

01:47:04   obsession with increasing thinnest what do you make of that I mean I'm gonna say [TS]

01:47:12   we make money make that I did you do you like that do you feel that it is useful [TS]

01:47:17   and important and why in particular do you think it seems like such an [TS]

01:47:20   obsession in [TS]

01:47:21   side the white room to make things thinner and is that a thing because it [TS]

01:47:25   feels like a thing I don't know anybody I don't know I can't think of anybody I [TS]

01:47:30   know who's top of the list even the top five would be I want a thinner phone [TS]

01:47:34   pretty much everybody i know says I wouldn't who knows this could be at [TS]

01:47:38   cross-purposes like with your think thinking fast mind you're thinking slow [TS]

01:47:41   mind but like everybody I know says they would like to get more battery I don't [TS]

01:47:45   know anybody that says I want to thinner phone i asked shoulder about that when [TS]

01:47:49   he was on the show at WWDC and he gave a good answer at least at the time I was [TS]

01:47:54   like damn that's a good answer and damned if I can remember it I was [TS]

01:47:58   backstage backstage drinking I don't remember [TS]

01:48:02   damned if I can remember it I i don't know i don't know what to make of it [TS]

01:48:07   because it's gone past the point where I care like I'm impressed now like when I [TS]

01:48:14   go to one of these apple events and it's the year when you get a new form factor [TS]

01:48:19   and then they have a monitor you know Apple table backstage and you get to [TS]

01:48:23   study them and see out then they are and it's like wow that is then but I think I [TS]

01:48:30   honestly be even started I honestly I don't think that the thickness of the [TS]

01:48:33   things ever really mattered to me i like the original iphone i didn't think it [TS]

01:48:38   was too thick and I think starting somewhere around the four ya the four [TS]

01:48:45   and the four ask the one that had the glass back glass front glass back but [TS]

01:48:50   still it's still my favorite the 4 s's don't like my favorite form factor at [TS]

01:48:54   that at that point I i thought this is good this is fantastic this feels so [TS]

01:49:01   great in my pocket [TS]

01:49:02   it's you know this is great I'll uh and then when they made the next one even [TS]

01:49:06   thinner i was like wow that's amazing but I didn't think this is better for me [TS]

01:49:11   like they could have stopped at the thinness of the four 4s and I'd be happy [TS]

01:49:15   if they just packed it with battery [TS]

01:49:17   well you know I like the guy i doing something hideous obviously I'm glad to [TS]

01:49:20   see enhancements to the phone i like this faster like it's bigger it's all [TS]

01:49:23   that kind of stuff but like to me the 4s design still you know the whole like [TS]

01:49:27   chamfered edges or whatever they called it that still feel so classic to me now [TS]

01:49:31   that has live in 5s at the 5 and 5s yeah [TS]

01:49:34   we know that was before that was one had the glass back and it just had metal [TS]

01:49:39   sides they were like it wasn't chamfered though it was alright i see but that [TS]

01:49:44   yeah i guess in my head I think of that yes I see what you're saying [TS]

01:49:47   yeah but I still think of that as like i'll remember that as the classic iphone [TS]

01:49:51   look I think yeah i don't know i like the rounded ish edges [TS]

01:49:56   yeah I'm sorry I misspoke yeah this one looks like a mophie before there was a [TS]

01:49:59   movie right it's got that without metal edge was the antenna gate phone [TS]

01:50:04   yes yeah right God look at I'm looking at just what the OS look like oh my [TS]

01:50:08   goodness oh my gosh it's so I don't hate it though i don't know i'm not gonna [TS]

01:50:13   blanket party on forestall like I think I don't know man it's it's when the [TS]

01:50:18   iphone got good you know he was still there running the show so thinnest yeah [TS]

01:50:25   so i don't know i don't know you know it gets I have to always in my head [TS]

01:50:28   discount the fact that you know the way that we know that but I'm talking about [TS]

01:50:31   the cannon book Thinking Fast and Slow yes it's yes an amazing book but you [TS]

01:50:36   know there are the ways that when we stop and think and meta think about what [TS]

01:50:39   we're doing is actually very different from the way that we think from day to [TS]

01:50:42   day it's there's just been setting aside the research there's just the anecdotes [TS]

01:50:46   there's so much stuff about like what we think we want versus what we actually do [TS]

01:50:50   and how what we actually use and how we actually process information if you ask [TS]

01:50:54   anyone who's a gambler whether gambling is a good way to make lots of money and [TS]

01:50:58   you say to them they will say no it's not it's done that I do this it's done [TS]

01:51:02   that I drink it's done that again what's done i do these things it doesn't change [TS]

01:51:05   the fact that we still do it so i have to guess that there's something going on [TS]

01:51:09   a sub rosa level here where there they are [TS]

01:51:13   there's some reason that they are making these things the way they are making [TS]

01:51:16   them and it may not exactly comport with the way that my brain thinks that these [TS]

01:51:20   things should be made that they must have their reasons right that's what I [TS]

01:51:22   try to think I try to I tried to remain on emotional about it like i don't see [TS]

01:51:29   it and I don't get it but I feel like it's of a itself apart with the outrage [TS]

01:51:33   over the headphone jack [TS]

01:51:34   yeah where I don't want to be the one who is outraged that they've made this [TS]

01:51:37   the next iphone even thinner and the battery life isn't any better [TS]

01:51:43   you know when obviously if they'd you know kept it the same thickness and just [TS]

01:51:48   it added a little more battery they could have made battery better [TS]

01:51:51   that sounds good better to me and I know that there's these you know little laws [TS]

01:51:56   of physics that affect image quality of the camera where the longer to the [TS]

01:52:00   distance you have between the lens and the sensor it helps to have a bigger [TS]

01:52:04   state you can have a bigger sensor with bigger pixels and therefore get better [TS]

01:52:07   image quality i understand that it is i don't get it seems to me come my My look [TS]

01:52:14   at it as common senses if they kept the thinnest the same at this point then [TS]

01:52:18   they could have more battery which would increase battery life and they could [TS]

01:52:22   have better image quality on the camera which are like the two things that I [TS]

01:52:24   care about most [TS]

01:52:26   this is using the camera and the battery and they keep me instead they keep [TS]

01:52:29   making it thinner [TS]

01:52:31   I don't get it but I don't assume that there's no good reason for it or that [TS]

01:52:34   the only reason is a like Jony Ive's personal obsession with the thinnest I i [TS]

01:52:41   get that there must be something I just don't see it [TS]

01:52:44   right right and and I think for folks who are technologically inclined [TS]

01:52:49   scientifically inclined or even rationally inclined you might want to [TS]

01:52:53   look at something like you know this case the thinness of the phone and you [TS]

01:52:56   can come up with half a dozen reasons why making a thinner is not a good idea [TS]

01:53:00   or you know or is not the first good idea but at the same time you could look [TS]

01:53:04   at stuff like the skeuomorphism that goes into automobiles we know in terms [TS]

01:53:09   of like making this sporty we look even more sporty than it needs to look for [TS]

01:53:13   the sportiness of it like that actually helped make it a better car not not in [TS]

01:53:18   the usual sense but makes more attractive to people having it create [TS]

01:53:22   more like making it make more engine noise than it needs to make does that [TS]

01:53:26   make it a better car not really not in engineering sense but there's a reason [TS]

01:53:29   there's reasons for all of this stuff that it goes beyond simply fashion but [TS]

01:53:34   there's something about like when you're using it [TS]

01:53:36   this makes you feel a certain way and that's why people keep going back and [TS]

01:53:39   buying the same brands over and over the Latino yeah I out channel try to channel [TS]

01:53:45   my inner syracuse it here and I feel like Syracuse it if he's listening is [TS]

01:53:49   champing at the bit here because I feel like he could explain this best but like [TS]

01:53:54   that the the [TS]

01:53:55   end result eventually is that these phones are just gonna be pieces of glass [TS]

01:53:59   you know like remembered you see the movie looper yeah like this so basically [TS]

01:54:04   it's like or even like parks and rec that is basically be a little bit like a [TS]

01:54:08   clearly a floating screen kind of thing just yet just it's just just the piece [TS]

01:54:11   of glass just for you know maybe it's on class maybe it's a polycarbonate but [TS]

01:54:15   just the screen and it's when it's off it maybe it's even try and loosen and [TS]

01:54:19   everything is built into it to get from here to there they have to keep making [TS]

01:54:24   everything better and that they know that that's where it's going and in the [TS]

01:54:28   meantime they have they have to keep pressing the gas pedal on making these [TS]

01:54:32   things thinner even though it's at the expense of trying to also it's working [TS]

01:54:37   counter to making battery life better and counter to making the camera better [TS]

01:54:41   they have to keep working on all three because that's inevitable and if they [TS]

01:54:44   don't do it somebody else will [TS]

01:54:46   because we're still thinking about a power device as relying on the kind of [TS]

01:54:50   power with the kind of constraints that we do right now in the same way like [TS]

01:54:53   think about the leap from CRT to LED like I mean making that the that mental [TS]

01:54:58   model that leap from what a TV is what a TV looks like how is it that within like [TS]

01:55:04   less than 10 years we went from a TV being what an 80-pound box into being [TS]

01:55:12   almost like a plane right i mean that but that's that takes an entire quantum [TS]

01:55:16   leap course if you ever opened up a TV or opened up a stereo like a crappily [TS]

01:55:20   made stereo system it's all air inside there's no reason for any of that is [TS]

01:55:23   just it's just cheapest to make that way with stock components so that's kinda [TS]

01:55:27   what you're saying right is that like if we look at this is more than what axis [TS]

01:55:30   changing in the future you can't help but think that there's going to be some [TS]

01:55:33   evolutions we don't in the near-term understand evolution but changes we [TS]

01:55:36   don't immediately understand [TS]

01:55:37   yeah i also wonder if there might not be a very practical near-term product [TS]

01:55:43   marketing angle on it which is that Apple and other companies as well might [TS]

01:55:50   know that if they made the device let's just say that the iphone 7 coming out is [TS]

01:55:57   the new iphones called the iphone 7 it's coming out later this year and it's [TS]

01:56:00   thinner than the iphone 6 [TS]

01:56:02   that's probably all everything I just said is what I guess is going to happen [TS]

01:56:07   because it's what's been happening for years now i don't have anybody I don't [TS]

01:56:10   know any sources have told me that but it's a very logical guess Apple might [TS]

01:56:15   know that if they made the iphone 7 the same thickness as the iphone 6 even [TS]

01:56:21   though they could make it thinner but if they made it thicker and use that extra [TS]

01:56:25   thickness to increase the battery life and maybe get rid of the maybe if image [TS]

01:56:31   quality isn't even better than it would be otherwise but there's no you know the [TS]

01:56:37   camera lens doesn't stick out from the back which would make me very happy [TS]

01:56:40   they might know that in the long run that would make people happy but that in [TS]

01:56:45   the short run if they did that and then people go into a verizon or AT&T store [TS]

01:56:51   and side-by-side with a samsung that is thinner even if it's an expensive [TS]

01:56:56   battery life [TS]

01:56:57   oh yeah that you know that they have a reasonable reason to believe that x [TS]

01:57:02   number of people will then pick that Samsung because wow look how thin this [TS]

01:57:05   is and walk out of it even though in the long run they might have been happier [TS]

01:57:08   with the thicker phone that gets better battery life but at the point-of-sale [TS]

01:57:11   that thing this one looked thin this has curve appeal / like bullet stats right [TS]

01:57:18   and you know in in that sense of like that's a really interesting way to put [TS]

01:57:22   it [TS]

01:57:22   you know you think about what she wants you what you buy when you just walk into [TS]

01:57:26   the store like and how it makes you feel in the moment that could actually have a [TS]

01:57:30   huge impact [TS]

01:57:31   yeah I i really and it's a little i know that there aren't the nerds out there [TS]

01:57:36   the people who you know either do think more logically the most people or at [TS]

01:57:40   least like to think that they think a lot more logically than most other [TS]

01:57:43   people and I suspect there's a lot of people listening to us right now whoo [TS]

01:57:46   hoo that applies to think that makes me angry because I'm so logical that would [TS]

01:57:51   never for me a you might be fooling yourself about just how emotional you [TS]

01:57:58   know the emotional context of buying it [TS]

01:58:00   you know what'd be even if you do have a good point because you pre-order your [TS]

01:58:04   phones and and you buy your new iPhone before you ever even seen it in person [TS]

01:58:09   you can't underestimate the head that when you're selling in the quantities [TS]

01:58:12   that apple sells at that most people are not like the people listen [TS]

01:58:16   into this child yeah but also AM what feels like a real change in attitude [TS]

01:58:22   from you know over the years I don't think also will change in attitude but [TS]

01:58:26   you know there was a time when being somebody who said hey look you know just [TS]

01:58:34   give me exactly what I want in this device and then leave me alone and stop [TS]

01:58:40   trying to make this pretty somebody said that in 1999 would you guess that that's [TS]

01:58:45   a Mac user or pc user that really sounds like pc user to me [TS]

01:58:51   yeah me too right the the there was a time when you know one of the one of our [TS]

01:58:55   many in dignities in the Apple community was that we did by and large we [TS]

01:58:59   certainly could do more at a certain time on your Mac wasn't as reliable [TS]

01:59:03   stable but you know that's that's been the trade-offs overtime but this is kind [TS]

01:59:07   of funny to me that everybody comes in [TS]

01:59:09   it's like you know all that whatever the six different guys you know the six [TS]

01:59:13   blind men describing an elephant like everybody's holding a different part of [TS]

01:59:15   the elephant when they describe it and it is kind of funny like how quickly [TS]

01:59:19   like we can go down this personal rathole of having exactly the idea of [TS]

01:59:23   what we would want in a phone but exactly the idea of what we wanted a [TS]

01:59:26   phone if we actually sat down with people in a room would end up being [TS]

01:59:29   surprisingly different from person to person there has to be somebody there at [TS]

01:59:32   some level making those executive decisions about what they can do and [TS]

01:59:36   make well at scale [TS]

01:59:37   you know I don't know maybe I'm pulling on my ass but I do feel like so you know [TS]

01:59:41   you eventually get into this homers car type situation with people were you know [TS]

01:59:44   all you know what I love to have a way bigger phone or a way smaller phone or [TS]

01:59:48   i'd love to have a way longer battery life or you know everybody's got their [TS]

01:59:51   in your case with with the with the camera most people I i'm gonna guess [TS]

01:59:54   don't know I don't know enough about the camera to know that thing about the [TS]

01:59:58   length of the lens and things like that [TS]

01:59:58   length of the lens and things like that [TS]

02:00:00   otherwise otherwise they weld a lot of these arguments you know it on [TS]

02:00:03   common-sense level though right like when you look at the the the sideline [TS]

02:00:07   guys at the Superbowl shooting the photos for Sports Illustrated what other [TS]

02:00:10   cameras look like they're these giant lenses because there's definitely some [TS]

02:00:15   admit you know I didn't teach what's your point about the Kirk what I'm [TS]

02:00:19   calling the curb appeal part for example what you said you wish the lens didn't [TS]

02:00:22   stick out when i think of the camera on my phone I think of that lens I don't [TS]

02:00:26   think about what's going on inside [TS]

02:00:28   I think about that lens and I think about the fact that every time I put my [TS]

02:00:31   phone down I feel a little nervous and I feel a little bit unsettled in OCD way [TS]

02:00:35   about that thing sticking out more in the example of talking about the [TS]

02:00:38   headphone jack the audio jack [TS]

02:00:40   I mean like we were sort of getting too i mean how many people think about that [TS]

02:00:44   in terms of a cylinder versus a circle if you take my meaning [TS]

02:00:49   I think the Rose people think about the gating factor of right which call it [TS]

02:00:53   there they don't have a circle not-not-not a tube right there w is [TS]

02:00:58   actually a much bigger deal right in the circle right they think of the diameter [TS]

02:01:02   that portrait as opposed to the depth of the port right so it or not to apply [TS]

02:01:06   that same analogy you know when you talk about the camera [TS]

02:01:09   I think of a hoop and you think of a cylinder yeah right and so so you know [TS]

02:01:16   for anybody else to go no look it's a hoop you can make that as fine as you [TS]

02:01:19   want but no no actually that's a cylinder and that that does have an [TS]

02:01:23   impact and this is one case where you know these two things this the bigger [TS]

02:01:28   this gets the better the phone is the smaller this this thing is the better [TS]

02:01:31   the phone gets and those two we're going to do [TS]

02:01:34   yeah you're gonna make it look an imac box like what would you do if you can [TS]

02:01:38   make it like a ramp or a wedge i would love to I i like to imagine i would like [TS]

02:01:44   to have been it just see a transcript even just a transcript of like meetings [TS]

02:01:49   within Apple where it was explaining to Johnny I've that ok but the the camera [TS]

02:01:57   lens is going to protrude mean it's going to protrude well it's gonna [TS]

02:02:01   visibly be not flat [TS]

02:02:04   well how much we talking to everyone about a monocle here we are Johnny it we [TS]

02:02:09   have made her drive you in 60 we've made of and [TS]

02:02:13   we've made a prototype here at his and the first time he grabs that 3d printed [TS]

02:02:20   thing he goes my Emmy turns around he places it on the desk and it goes [TS]

02:02:25   look up look up look but because it's not flat [TS]

02:02:29   can you imagine in my god that i bet he was just slamming xanax after that we [TS]

02:02:36   just got to make him so crazy it's always going somebody pair of gloves [TS]

02:02:40   with that with a built-in hangnail on it like that can we have without the [TS]

02:02:45   hangman ok the number on the iPhone 6 all of you know six success and the plus [TS]

02:02:50   models is to me like one of the most fascinating things that's ever come out [TS]

02:02:55   of Apple because he if you have to know the company's history and their [TS]

02:02:59   obsessions and the sort of that the people who work there care about it's [TS]

02:03:04   what got couple three millimeters maybe I don't even know how you admit I mean [TS]

02:03:08   it's a real real small but on the other hand on your finger has no problems like [TS]

02:03:13   oh no run over it like a wart well yeah that's a more likely a canker sore [TS]

02:03:21   yeah it yourself you can't who can cost up doing this [TS]

02:03:24   yeah you're not doing it because you like your dick is you can't stop these [TS]

02:03:30   kids up the compulsive alright let me tell you take a break take a break here [TS]

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02:04:33   don't need special client software everything is responsibly designed so [TS]

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02:05:10   you know i love my igloo is I'm just repeating what you said but you know [TS]

02:05:14   there's so many of these things were like you feel like you get into a piece [TS]

02:05:17   of software even some very good pieces of software you feel like you're really [TS]

02:05:21   entering into a world view where you have to learn to think like the people [TS]

02:05:26   who made it [TS]

02:05:27   yep as an example of a famous company that we both admire you got need to [TS]

02:05:32   think like that one guy and then you'll really get the software anybody glue is [TS]

02:05:36   like there's nothing you have to do you can just shut off the stuff you don't [TS]

02:05:39   need there's something very satisfying about knowing the features are there but [TS]

02:05:42   you don't have to have them on you can make it look the way you want and it [TS]

02:05:45   doesn't have to be like a world-changing philosophy that you adopt in order to [TS]

02:05:51   make the tool work i love that [TS]

02:05:52   yeah it's you know it's sort of like a you know it's overused analogy but sort [TS]

02:05:57   of like a Lego approach to making toys for it you know it's not like here's the [TS]

02:06:01   toy you have to use it exactly this way you just put the pieces together the way [TS]

02:06:04   you want [TS]

02:06:05   well put [TS]

02:06:08   all right let's start the show yeah you ready to go just recording well do have [TS]

02:06:13   you [TS]

02:06:14   the main thing that I mean I don't know if there's anything else you want to [TS]

02:06:16   talk about but I i want to talk about the Godfather go home man come on i [TS]

02:06:20   gotta pick up my kid in like an hour hand he just briefly it's um you know [TS]

02:06:24   okay [TS]

02:06:27   yes yes so I did not see this coming I don't know if they kept it secret or if [TS]

02:06:32   I'm gonna tell me who doesn't know where to look for stuff like this but it was [TS]

02:06:37   like I don't know just a couple days and i saw on cocky site first where Kottke [TS]

02:06:41   was like hey HBO is going to have the Godfather epic on on a HP the regular [TS]

02:06:49   HBO on TV which and to me it doesn't make any sense i don't know how this [TS]

02:06:53   whole thing makes almost no sense the Godfather epic the Godfather saga [TS]

02:06:56   whatever you wanna call which version you tell what it is [TS]

02:06:59   yeah then want them to the story that I heard was that one . you know the [TS]

02:07:03   godfather and the godfather to have just been so huge so critically acclaimed and [TS]

02:07:07   some point somebody got the idea to make it a miniseries that you could show on [TS]

02:07:10   TV and with the idea being that cocoa and personally supervise a putting this [TS]

02:07:16   together in putting it together for TV meaning be taking out the stuff that [TS]

02:07:23   would be you know too violent in that case but also seek doing in [TS]

02:07:26   chronological order of the scenes in The Godfather wanted to write so far so good [TS]

02:07:31   so that ran as a miniseries over i think two or three four nights in the [TS]

02:07:36   seventies or eighties and then I I can't John I've been looking for a copy of [TS]

02:07:40   this for so long it's hard to find a sammich that copy that copy of this let [TS]

02:07:45   alone look legit one like you can find like maybe sometimes a VHS multi VHS or [TS]

02:07:50   there it's just it's one of those things that's very hard to find but it's not [TS]

02:07:54   it's not the not the place to start i would say it like it is [TS]

02:07:59   if you are a godfather fans have its such with the new scenes or old deleted [TS]

02:08:04   scenes brought back as a whole new way to watch the movie so what it's you [TS]

02:08:07   you can go if you have HBO Go or HBO now it's AI don't know why they have to run [TS]

02:08:12   things HBO Go is what I have because I still have cable TV and I have HBO so if [TS]

02:08:16   you have take people to manage recognize HBO Go if you don't your quote-unquote [TS]

02:08:20   cord cutter [TS]

02:08:21   that's me sign of that you sign up for HBO now which is exactly like HBO Go [TS]

02:08:25   except you just pay for it and didn't mean there's got to be a very [TS]

02:08:29   interesting reason why that is what you think I guess and it's like maybe like [TS]

02:08:34   well I think we ask but I think license can't exactly the same stuff i think you [TS]

02:08:38   have all the exactly so I think it's like the way that you have to login is [TS]

02:08:41   different i just don't know why they don't make two different apps for it [TS]

02:08:44   I don't know or maybe there's some way that maybe maybe it's so that they can [TS]

02:08:49   just say here's how many HBO now users we have I say sure I don't know but [TS]

02:08:54   anyway but you haven't either with seemingly out of nowhere this thing that [TS]

02:08:57   is like it's I've got it in well in places where one can find things off [TS]

02:09:03   certain trucks I've been looking for this thing for five years because i [TS]

02:09:06   remember when it would come on TV what woman in reruns you will come on [TS]

02:09:10   sometimes I'm like what like USA [TS]

02:09:12   I guess ya une in the nineties but they never had this one that the one that's [TS]

02:09:16   chronological order or did they [TS]

02:09:19   well I think that's like I think was originally called The Godfather sog I [TS]

02:09:24   don't think so too [TS]

02:09:25   you gotta go to Wikipedia page because I think there is there also a version that [TS]

02:09:28   has three in it [TS]

02:09:30   I think so yeah yeah and a difference i mean like so and i don't think i had i [TS]

02:09:35   don't think the Godfather saga had to cut seem to put back in [TS]

02:09:39   okay look I don't think i could your own i had seen when Michael goes to chicago [TS]

02:09:45   to find help me out not Thomasina fabrizzio I remember is definitely see I [TS]

02:09:52   very much remember that and I remember thinking that's the scene i'm glad they [TS]

02:09:55   put in there's a lot of things on command that's sure glad they put in but [TS]

02:09:58   I thought that was great the Great him finding 4bt on be able to work we need a [TS]

02:10:03   spoiler alert here [TS]

02:10:04   yeah probably i don't think it's a big deal it's a big deal jack so you should [TS]

02:10:10   if if you've never seen the Godfather or if you haven't seen it in forever and [TS]

02:10:16   and would like to re-watch it and keep it fresh [TS]

02:10:19   you should start stop listening to the show if mostly to say my thanks to glue [TS]

02:10:25   around and back plays my thanks two morrow and man [TS]

02:10:28   and you can stop the show and my advice and I think you'll agree with me by my [TS]

02:10:32   ending advice to you is just watch the god watch the cinematic releases of the [TS]

02:10:37   Godfather one and godfather to as originally released in chopped up you [TS]

02:10:43   know spoiler alert and chopped-up chronological order [TS]

02:10:45   yeah well you're not chopped up as as in like a you know charlie kaufman movie or [TS]

02:10:51   something no but it's you know but it but it'sit's yeah but I mean watch [TS]

02:10:54   godfather one godfather to each one is better than the other [TS]

02:10:57   they're awfully awfully good right in the best way to watch them really is the [TS]

02:11:01   way that they were originally made whether there's flashbacks interspersed [TS]

02:11:05   with you know you can appreciate so much more that's a little bit like a machete [TS]

02:11:09   order type situation yeah well there's gonna be stuff I like i want to mention [TS]

02:11:13   to you is like it's neat to see young Tessio when he's young but like it's way [TS]

02:11:18   more fun to get all my god that's totally a bogota like that's really cool [TS]

02:11:22   like you appreciate it more in a Darth Vader kind of way [TS]

02:11:24   yeah hey John thanks for having me on this has been great and may your first [TS]

02:11:27   child be a masculine child [TS]

02:11:30   all right now for those of you or like to get that the reason i love this the [TS]

02:11:36   the godfather and again I don't think it's the better way to watch it I would [TS]

02:11:39   never say that and I don't think anybody would i but i think it's a fascinating [TS]

02:11:43   way to watch it if you're like me and you somebody who's watched it the [TS]

02:11:47   umpteen times I mean it's a terrible way to watch it for the first time in right [TS]

02:11:52   but it's a great way to watch it if you're overly familiar with it because [TS]

02:11:56   it is sort of like when you're used to listening to an album as an album and [TS]

02:12:01   when you hear certain songs like I hear certain songs from rolling stones are [TS]

02:12:05   led zeppelin or the band's albums i've listened to a gazillion times and when I [TS]

02:12:10   hear the song I know what songs coming next and if i don't hear that song next [TS]

02:12:13   it's not it's disruptive yeah but it's you know interesting it's an interesting [TS]

02:12:18   juxtaposition and it's and it takes me out of my comfort zone watching this The [TS]

02:12:22   Godfather epic does the same thing where I know what comes after this i know we [TS]

02:12:27   go back to the nineteen-fifties and we see Michael do this and instead we stay [TS]

02:12:31   in the nineteen tens and that's disruptive to me and it makes me see [TS]

02:12:36   that in a new way [TS]

02:12:38   plenum and it's funny because watching it in that order in this is much more a [TS]

02:12:42   couple things to note I would be okay i am I thought you're laughing coughing [TS]

02:12:47   dying need some white bread and get some white bread [TS]

02:12:51   well I had two things first of all in the saga which is seven that's seven [TS]

02:12:56   hours long right this isn't think is yeah i love it i took a twitter picture [TS]

02:13:00   of it is you start playing it and it just comes up and it just shows on your [TS]

02:13:04   TV as a seven-hour movie it's a seven-hour movie so two things to note [TS]

02:13:10   is that first of all the first Godfather movie which I think was well over three [TS]

02:13:15   hours to begin with is the lion's share because i think it's also where they [TS]

02:13:20   added the most deleted or you know remove footage with it wouldn't be fair [TS]

02:13:24   to say i may I feel like we were at least two-thirds of the way through the [TS]

02:13:28   seven hours when it would we got into the godfather two part yeah right [TS]

02:13:33   I it seemed like that to me too and then second of all the one that has been much [TS]

02:13:38   more affected by this change in approach is got fucked his godfather to all you [TS]

02:13:42   know in her obvious . wait a minute I'm sorry I'm an idiot because I'm not [TS]

02:13:45   accounting for the stuff from nineteen alright yeah that's it [TS]

02:13:48   duh duh yes so it starts out the movie The Godfather saga starts out with the [TS]

02:13:54   is it's the funeral of vetoes father where Apollo get shot [TS]

02:13:59   yeah I made this mistake you did right completely is so fucking stupid [TS]

02:14:03   right but i do feel like i can't i can't Pepsi challenge this but i do feel like [TS]

02:14:11   the movie that ended up having much more deleted footage was the first one [TS]

02:14:16   not if for no other reason there's a lot more Marlon Brando therefore I mean I [TS]

02:14:20   really noticeable a lot more Marlon Brando IMDb says that the Godfather was [TS]

02:14:25   is a hundred seventy five minutes so it was you know as intended as or as only [TS]

02:14:29   released it was close to three hours [TS]

02:14:30   I mean a hundred seventy five minutes cause call it 30 wow I always thought it [TS]

02:14:34   was over three hours [TS]

02:14:36   well you know I mean once you get up close to three hours it's [TS]

02:14:41   you know it's over three hours and everything I remember that is like I [TS]

02:14:45   I've often thought of often sat down and watch the godfather and gone i can't [TS]

02:14:48   believe the three hours just went by [TS]

02:14:50   yeah you know it sounds silly but I mean it really goes by what are you an IMDb [TS]

02:14:56   like versions i don't know i just wanted I just kind of keeping I just I just [TS]

02:15:01   went IMDb the godfather and it's 1772 so I don't think it's any kind of special [TS]

02:15:06   edition [TS]

02:15:06   oh my gosh console versions I i found myself and i'm not i guess like with [TS]

02:15:15   Star Wars I'm a little bit more of a superfan and I think any additional [TS]

02:15:20   scenes to restored scenes i would instantly now and I've seen the [TS]

02:15:23   Godfather many many times I there are a couple of the scenes that were added [TS]

02:15:28   where I knew instantly wow I've never seen this before and then we are a [TS]

02:15:32   couple when I was like wait a minute have I seen this [TS]

02:15:34   yeah like when it went out Mary goes to talk to chick because the the guy who [TS]

02:15:41   owns the casino a Klingon the claimant well looks like yeah whatever because [TS]

02:15:50   APC died out in front of the dancers [TS]

02:15:51   yeah yeah yeah okay I had this thought well first of all the scene right before [TS]

02:15:55   that was talking at length with him and starts kicking his ass in the casino i [TS]

02:15:58   was trying to remember is that in that's another diet that's one of the ones that [TS]

02:16:02   I couldn't remember is it do i think it was added [TS]

02:16:05   I think it yeah like that the whole thing with the dip and God you know it's [TS]

02:16:10   so funny I was thinking couple loves big stage shows there's so many stage shows [TS]

02:16:14   in The Godfather in the apocalypse now also you think about like all the stages [TS]

02:16:18   with the playboy bunnies and stuff [TS]

02:16:20   yep he's so great or like the donkey show with the show with Superman or like [TS]

02:16:24   all the other shows in Havana it's really interesting that seems like such [TS]

02:16:26   a big thing anyway that's like you know that's a scene that I I think had to be [TS]

02:16:31   addicts I think it would have stuck out to me because to me it emphasized the [TS]

02:16:35   the power dynamics because the casino is a very it you have to actually this is [TS]

02:16:41   one of those things where the Godfather kind of blow man will do little grab-ass [TS]

02:16:44   no grab-ass and casino right and there's no fighting in the casino like you don't [TS]

02:16:49   you don't you know everybody knows you're going to casino and there's be [TS]

02:16:52   security guys around there and they just all they're all they want to do is make [TS]

02:16:55   sure there's no trouble and that the money just keeps flowing on the tables [TS]

02:16:59   so like the way that you noticed to start banging a guy on the head in the [TS]

02:17:03   casino to the way he's doing it it's so undignified right it's if I had to have [TS]

02:17:07   a dictionary and animated harry potter picture of what I would call a bitch [TS]

02:17:11   slap [TS]

02:17:11   but even L nearly hitting clinic seems like four Klingon they're pushing [TS]

02:17:18   Klingon out right i have i loved it i guess I can kind of see why they cut it [TS]

02:17:24   you know that these movies are so long and that they really you know wanted to [TS]

02:17:28   just cut every little bit of fat and and my boy there were a couple that really [TS]

02:17:33   stuck out I'm trying to remember there were a lot involving backstory on Mike I [TS]

02:17:41   think involving Michael Kay backstory stuff [TS]

02:17:43   yeah I I'm you know I tonight I've it's seven hours long i didn't watch the [TS]

02:17:46   whole thing but uh I've been skipping around to like significant parts [TS]

02:17:51   yeah I feel like it really is a testament well first of all it is fun to [TS]

02:17:55   watch in chronological order because it's just into I I never felt more must [TS]

02:18:00   have never felt more empathy but it made me really appreciate the nearest [TS]

02:18:03   performance i say that the interleaving was pretty great but it's fun to just [TS]

02:18:08   see all the dinero in a row [TS]

02:18:10   almost as a short story eh I you know I had to hyperbolic you can't you can't [TS]

02:18:16   say something like this definitively but just to be a jackass on Twitter and [TS]

02:18:19   after I got done with that first hour or so which is the dinero is young [TS]

02:18:23   Vito I just tweeted the it's the greatest screen performance in the [TS]

02:18:28   history of American cinema now do I really mean that i would put it up there [TS]

02:18:31   with any performance that didn't a domain name one that's empirically [TS]

02:18:35   better write it sits in that a plus let's just say that there's an a-plus [TS]

02:18:39   category that you can't go past this is one of them [TS]

02:18:41   yes some of the other people who disputed it there were others that were [TS]

02:18:44   out there but it's it's as good as any performance I've ever seen because it [TS]

02:18:48   does like it does likes 10 things at once like one it is completely [TS]

02:18:53   convincing that he is the younger version of Brando that you saw in this [TS]

02:18:59   movie [TS]

02:19:00   before it is completely convincing that this is the same guy [TS]

02:19:04   it's a different actor but it's it's like oh my god that's the guy and his [TS]

02:19:09   carriage not even just to catch phrases his carriage and just yes the way that [TS]

02:19:13   he pees exactly like veto but how you imagined him younger he z is very [TS]

02:19:18   dignified and reserved and kind and you could see it before you know he became [TS]

02:19:24   quite the tough guy he became and you feel that he could lose at any point [TS]

02:19:28   well and the other thing that got stuck out to me and when you see it all [TS]

02:19:31   condensed consecutively instead of being interspersed one of the things that [TS]

02:19:35   jumped out to me and you know it i mean it but it just really sticks out to you [TS]

02:19:39   that this is a guy who likes to listen more than he likes to talk and that [TS]

02:19:44   might make a lot of logical sense for the character but it's not the way that [TS]

02:19:47   movie characters are written right because it you tell an actor you don't [TS]

02:19:52   have a lot of lines you know that's worse right that's not good [TS]

02:19:57   deniro makes that work like where he's acting and he is telling you so many [TS]

02:20:01   things about this character and it has almost nothing to do with what he says [TS]

02:20:04   in your your your really articulating something I i didn't have words for when [TS]

02:20:10   i watch this process again the last like three nights I've been watching this and [TS]

02:20:14   you just really articulated something to me you're right in other movies and you [TS]

02:20:18   know like a straw man but another movie is about the number of lines about how [TS]

02:20:21   much you get to put in a pull a face and have an emotion but think about seems [TS]

02:20:25   like thinking about everything with the narrow think about Robert Duvall [TS]

02:20:29   throughout the movie [TS]

02:20:31   yeah arm think about everybody like in the courtroom scenes so much is telling [TS]

02:20:37   so much as telegraph so much is communicated by how each person mutes [TS]

02:20:42   their emotional response right a famous scene like when now and then with the [TS]

02:20:47   first sit down and and Vito to study never tell the family what you're [TS]

02:20:51   thinking like never tell people what's on your mind right never tell anybody [TS]

02:20:53   outside the family will be showing the outside the family what you're thinking [TS]

02:20:56   right [TS]

02:20:57   yes yes and and you see that throughout the movie like when when tom has to go [TS]

02:21:01   into the place where the senator is with the you know within to talk about ya up [TS]

02:21:06   with a little problem with your it had a little problem the girl and the scene is [TS]

02:21:11   it's so awful it's so scary and it's so [TS]

02:21:14   it's not only scary and awful but it's just he Gary is so undignified and the [TS]

02:21:19   way he's trying to kind of like gather up the sheets while he's wearing a towel [TS]

02:21:22   yeah but you but how does robert duvall in that case Telegraph so much of this [TS]

02:21:27   all come on guy as well as oh my god I can't believe this is another fucking [TS]

02:21:31   thing I have to do for the family to you it's all that I have a question about [TS]

02:21:34   that scene because I i'm not in time [TS]

02:21:36   it's so long i'm not done with this yet I think maybe around with you I'm about [TS]

02:21:40   and maybe a little bit more than two-thirds I'm about three-quarters [TS]

02:21:43   through it but I saw that scene last night did did the family set him up [TS]

02:21:48   yeah yeah is that everybody clear or I just had a kind is not well I'm just [TS]

02:21:53   telling you what I think I think they say in particular because our hagun [TS]

02:21:57   makes Thomas a point of saying you're very you're lucky that this is Fredo's [TS]

02:22:01   place [TS]

02:22:01   yeah as we were able to come in and help you I think they probably slipped him a [TS]

02:22:05   Micky yeah and one killed killed the girl [TS]

02:22:08   yeah that's exactly what I think it's and that's why you can't you know [TS]

02:22:11   remember anything right [TS]

02:22:13   I've always liked to but I love that they don't make a record layout may I [TS]

02:22:17   love in that role he's so good he's such a scumbag giri I like the way that he [TS]

02:22:24   has he's he's at first time we see him at a young Anthony's first communion [TS]

02:22:32   party and he's reading from these cards perfect it's perfect now with a special [TS]

02:22:38   performance that like he's obviously has no idea what they're going to play [TS]

02:22:42   I like it when I like it when he says vyto Corley I don't Carly on vital core [TS]

02:22:48   Leon yeah he's good and his wife mrs. Geary yeah so then I said I said that [TS]

02:22:58   this the Syracuse i think i said this to us this to other people think that [TS]

02:23:01   strikes me throughout these movies maybe even especially godfather 2 is the minor [TS]

02:23:06   roles [TS]

02:23:07   there's so many people I like i remember i still remember like the cop who guides [TS]

02:23:12   video out of the line at Ellis Island I remember the guy with the accordion and [TS]

02:23:17   the glasses [TS]

02:23:18   it went and when when Fredo greets Mike so Las Vegas [TS]

02:23:23   i I just I filter so many faces in this movie that I remember so clearly either [TS]

02:23:28   they want a speaking part they still feel like a giant part of the movie and [TS]

02:23:31   the I the nurse who's the only other person in the hospital when micro just [TS]

02:23:36   happens no and Michael happens upon his father and realizes he's not guarded and [TS]

02:23:41   that nurse comes in and just says like you can't be here and says it with that [TS]

02:23:47   sort of authority we're like let's just say that you're you know you're you know [TS]

02:23:53   you're not your relative your beloved one is not an endangered member of the [TS]

02:23:58   Mafia you just there to see somebody in your family is in the hospital and a [TS]

02:24:01   nurse comes up to you and says to you in that in a sort of authoritative manner [TS]

02:24:05   you can't be here right now you're like oh it's almost like you like you've [TS]

02:24:08   wandered into where the medications are locked out but yeah you can't be here [TS]

02:24:11   like you probably don't know it but you can't be in here you're in the wrong [TS]

02:24:13   area [TS]

02:24:14   it's it's a vivid performance it's like it you know she's got I don't know three [TS]

02:24:19   or four lines but and but it's a great little interaction the way that Michael [TS]

02:24:24   conveys to her you're not you're not giving at me out of here and be if you [TS]

02:24:29   don't help me [TS]

02:24:29   somebody's going to come in here and shoot my father totally totally agree [TS]

02:24:34   yeah I started let's lift of this 25 long time ago five incredibly minor [TS]

02:24:38   characters from The Godfather because there's and there's just so many and you [TS]

02:24:42   know and I guess the game's read reviews somebody's telling me who is a producer [TS]

02:24:44   on the film that actually also got left out to lucas from Coppola Francis from [TS]

02:24:50   zoetrope by that [TS]

02:24:52   yeah I mean whoever was responsible for getting those faces in their it they [TS]

02:24:55   were really clicking on all cylinders on the cinematography everything about this [TS]

02:24:59   movie it's so gorgeous how much darker could be seen as get you can barely make [TS]

02:25:03   out the figures the shadows of two people in a room and get completely [TS]

02:25:06   works [TS]

02:25:06   no it's it's amazing and then when there is a scene and all of a sudden when [TS]

02:25:11   there is a scene in the sunshine amazing the way we want it we talked about this [TS]

02:25:14   before so we talked about this you watch the documentary where god I feel so bad [TS]

02:25:20   that Haskell Wexler what's the guy's name was the cinematographers name [TS]

02:25:24   Roger Deakins no it's not but it's I could just go look it up on the Internet [TS]

02:25:30   yeah i hear a thousand people screaming Gordon Willis Gordon Willis changing [TS]

02:25:37   said he basically stopping here if I got this wrong he lit those scenes but as [TS]

02:25:45   dark as talking to mama and the house as light as the wedding outside the wedding [TS]

02:25:49   is completely blown out to the edge of exposure can barely make out figures [TS]

02:25:52   inside you know there's certain scenes like you can barely make up the figures [TS]

02:25:56   he said if you move one stop in either direction it would ruin it would ruin [TS]

02:25:59   the movie he was so particular [TS]

02:26:03   he's like a few 51 if you move one stop up that is gonna screw up all the [TS]

02:26:07   wedding scenes it's gonna be unusable if you once top-down you literally for [TS]

02:26:10   people to see anything on screen in the boathouse right but it's just if it's I [TS]

02:26:15   got a microcosm of like the way and then in the godfather to in the in the movie [TS]

02:26:21   order that you're in the Michael Corleone error and then you go back to [TS]

02:26:27   Young veto and right go back to Michael and then you go back to in The Godfather [TS]

02:26:32   you're in this dark office that is so dark and so serious and so somber and [TS]

02:26:39   then you're out there with this great italian music and the dancing and and [TS]

02:26:44   the fun and the rain shine it's the same thing it's the exact same thing and it's [TS]

02:26:48   just the right amount of this and then just the right amount of that but [TS]

02:26:51   there's a lot of stuff where light ends up playing an important role or light [TS]

02:26:54   almost becomes a character certainly in terms of like the with our question but [TS]

02:26:58   think about the scene the entire sequence with going after fanucci during [TS]

02:27:03   the parade [TS]

02:27:04   holy shit like I just like I have like 50 things to say about that entire [TS]

02:27:08   sequence how they pulled that off with the side you know tracking shots that [TS]

02:27:12   they do and him on the roof but then the scene when he gets into the building and [TS]

02:27:16   he's waiting outside the door fanucci and has towel and he undoes the light [TS]

02:27:20   bulb know in the future comes up and does this like tap tap tap to get the [TS]

02:27:24   lights back on and he's back [TS]

02:27:25   ah it's just it's exquisite because the light is a I don't know it's just it's [TS]

02:27:29   just so gorgeous light is a character in that scene i can't help comparing it [TS]

02:27:33   because it's on my mind because the new movie came out [TS]

02:27:36   and you know obviously Lucas and Coppola were peers and and good friends and come [TS]

02:27:41   up at the same time and they know each other but to compare and contrast their [TS]

02:27:46   stewardship over there [TS]

02:27:48   fantastic seventies masterpieces [TS]

02:27:52   yeah and when the ways that Coppola has gone back to the godfather and put the [TS]

02:27:57   Godfather three side number one that got fired three is way better than the [TS]

02:28:00   prequels for the Star Wars movies whatever you think of the Godfather [TS]

02:28:03   three that's it's disappointing but it's not a dumpster fire right it's not you [TS]

02:28:10   know right it's not a disaster right nobody nobody complained about the [TS]

02:28:13   Godfather three the way they complain about the Star Wars prequels and then [TS]

02:28:16   what he did with the Godfather one godfather two are things that like [TS]

02:28:20   people like me and you are just praising to know and we're not saying hey don't [TS]

02:28:24   watch them the way they were originally released for saying watching like that [TS]

02:28:27   first and then watch it this way and you'll gain more perspective [TS]

02:28:29   whereas what Lucas did with the quote-unquote special editions like and [TS]

02:28:35   I got found myself thinking about talking about this i knew that i wanted [TS]

02:28:38   to have you on the show this weekend we talked about this and I started thinking [TS]

02:28:41   in my head of like what the like Lucas special edition of the gun fabric would [TS]

02:28:47   be and like this day he would like CGI the faces like Michaels Michaels wounds [TS]

02:28:55   from the cop beating him up would be much more like elaborate yeah exactly [TS]

02:28:58   that's exactly one [TS]

02:29:00   ok so one of the things that stuck out to me everybody knows Star Wars was [TS]

02:29:04   groundbreaking special effects because it showed you these things that were [TS]

02:29:07   impossible like a giant you know two-mile-long starship yeah [TS]

02:29:12   whereas the special effects in The Godfather though are amazing i find that [TS]

02:29:17   their street shot from for being made in like nineteen [TS]

02:29:21   early nineteen seventies the street shots of like old New York whether [TS]

02:29:26   you're talking the nineteen fifties or nineteen forties or you're talking all [TS]

02:29:31   the way back to the 19 tens they're all a hundred percent convincing and I i [TS]

02:29:36   right [TS]

02:29:37   I'm guessing they did it with like matte paintings [TS]

02:29:41   that's how they did a lot of like wide shots back then you know before the [TS]

02:29:44   digital age [TS]

02:29:46   but they're all just convincing and I don't know how they did it [TS]

02:29:49   I'd I really don't but it's just they sweated so much of the details in I [TS]

02:29:53   feels like to me like just dumb stuff like I was noticing when when Michael [TS]

02:29:57   pulls up and i'm in Roth house and he's in like a Thunderbird that red and black [TS]

02:30:00   thunderbird there's a little parking sticker in the window that looks [TS]

02:30:04   completely contemporaneous to the time like somebody sweated that somebody got [TS]

02:30:08   that and put that in there but also need to think about stuff like not to you [TS]

02:30:12   know go for the obvious one but the authenticity of like some of the [TS]

02:30:17   shootings [TS]

02:30:19   yeah i mean i remember reading one time I think I saw a Life magazine article [TS]

02:30:22   even as a kid about shooting the scene at the at the toll bridge with Sonny [TS]

02:30:28   oh yeah and like what was involved in that I mean think about all the moving [TS]

02:30:32   pieces in that it's it's mind-boggling or like the scene you know again the [TS]

02:30:36   scene in it at at a what's called Lewis's or whatever at the scene at the [TS]

02:30:40   yeah delicious restaurant that looks like a crime scene you're watching a [TS]

02:30:45   crime scene happen you know they like when they didn't go to the mattresses [TS]

02:30:48   you see all the black-and-white photos that's what it looked like [TS]

02:30:51   and it's not pretty like when the captain gets shot in the throat or [TS]

02:30:54   whatever like it is it does not look like a Chicago bank i'm shooting about [TS]

02:30:59   when Moe green gets shot in the eye [TS]

02:31:01   oh my god I can't even think about it i don't know it but they don't cut don't [TS]

02:31:05   cut on the gunshot you it's like this like a beat [TS]

02:31:09   he's laying down getting a massage she gets shot in the eye with those glasses [TS]

02:31:12   and then and then takes a second he may be on to be telling the guy to maybe [TS]

02:31:16   help him out do something with that back hair it looks up next another he's been [TS]

02:31:21   shot through his eyeglasses right into his eye [TS]

02:31:24   I don't know how they did it you do not talk to a man like Moe Greene like that [TS]

02:31:29   i don't know green the other 1i guess is he supposed to be Meyer Lansky is that [TS]

02:31:35   right yeah in the Romagna clay so who's the guy that warrant baby bugsy bugsy [TS]

02:31:40   siegel yeah I think he's sort of about my simple [TS]

02:31:43   with a lot of creative licenses you know sure you just better get to Bugsy Siegel [TS]

02:31:48   cross with a bunch of other people like maybe a a not to piss off any group of [TS]

02:31:53   people is still involved in that shirt business in 1971 and then be just you [TS]

02:31:57   know make it a better story [TS]

02:31:59   strasburg just lee strasberg just so so many things but like for me like the [TS]

02:32:05   moment the moment when mike is at his house and says basically is it okay if [TS]

02:32:10   we knock off you know Frank potentially and he takes the without he's looking at [TS]

02:32:15   the football game he picks up a potato chip [TS]

02:32:17   he says yeah a small potatoes oh it's a potato chip but remember they're talking [TS]

02:32:25   about slicing up Cuba while they're literally slicing up a cake you but [TS]

02:32:28   here's my note my notes are that I have a little note here written it says Hyman [TS]

02:32:33   Roth equals Yoda oh yeah totally like evil Yoda he just came back to vote in [TS]

02:32:39   the presidential election tonight will yes smart live out his life as a Jew in [TS]

02:32:45   Israel I the other deaf seen that really it was sort of towards the expression my [TS]

02:32:49   mind because it was sort of towards the end of where i paused it last night was [TS]

02:32:52   when Carlo now this is a hole in this is Connie's first husband and he's he's [TS]

02:33:03   been abusing Connie right well then she's pregnant and did it I'm did it [TS]

02:33:09   purposefully did it to conclude with the bart with presenting Barzini knowing [TS]

02:33:14   that when Sonny got the call Sonny was going to drive [TS]

02:33:17   yeah as fast as he could straight over that you know they knew exactly which [TS]

02:33:21   that is a really dumb plan that's gonna stay Carlo I know you're not the [TS]

02:33:26   sharpest knife in the drawer [TS]

02:33:28   how does that turn out well right but it's perfect his character would [TS]

02:33:31   probably do that is characters like a small-time know it is already [TS]

02:33:35   yeah there's that one little scene at a family dinner when he and it's it's [TS]

02:33:39   foreshadowing where Sonny is running the show because the old man is in the [TS]

02:33:45   hospital and sunny is talking business and Connie says we never talked about it [TS]

02:33:50   you guys never talk business at the table when daddy was here [TS]

02:33:53   going to use I i shut up a bra and then Carlos system hey you know I'd like to [TS]

02:33:57   talk to you and Michael have in and sunny goes we don't talk business at the [TS]

02:34:00   table with the right exactly exactly but it just shows you it's funny because it [TS]

02:34:04   at first you think it's a funny way of sunny being a hypocrite and then later [TS]

02:34:08   on Ovid it plays is Carlo wanting you know he kind of wants some attention [TS]

02:34:13   from this but he wants to give it you know that will absolutely well here's [TS]

02:34:15   the thing that's interesting and bewildering about that the this kind of [TS]

02:34:19   Cosa Nostra world is that it seems to me that like the number one qualification I [TS]

02:34:25   mean far from being you know Cecilia my guess is a family so if you're in the [TS]

02:34:28   family regardless of your blood in the family blood family right right like [TS]

02:34:33   we'll find something for you to do but after that like wow so much so much [TS]

02:34:38   demonstrated competence and so much demonstrated loyalty like we're don't [TS]

02:34:45   worry dude like we're not were not light on people we can find people who want [TS]

02:34:48   this job but if you want to work in this place you're gonna have to have a [TS]

02:34:51   surpassing level of both loyalty and competence neither of which carla has [TS]

02:34:55   and he's not blood [TS]

02:34:56   he doesn't understand that he did something that I think I mean my read of [TS]

02:34:59   this [TS]

02:34:59   he's in the family now why doesn't he get to be higher than Fredo right even [TS]

02:35:04   though it but that's not how it works right well anyway when he gets killed [TS]

02:35:07   oh my gosh he says because Michael places like a fiddle yeah he's like come [TS]

02:35:11   on I can't kill you're my you're my you're my wife's husband and my god oh [TS]

02:35:15   my god sons father [TS]

02:35:17   yeah exactly in your career the plane you just gotta go out you to get on the [TS]

02:35:20   plane gets in the car and they start strangling them any kicks the windshield [TS]

02:35:27   out first hear the squeaking sound squeaking sign of his shoes rubbing into [TS]

02:35:30   the right-field ah ha sounds time and it's it's this way that violence is it [TS]

02:35:38   really it's unsettling even though I've seen this so many times I'm teen times i [TS]

02:35:42   have said I can't count it i've seen it but it got to me it's like uncomfortable [TS]

02:35:46   and it's because there's no cuts is no editing it's just a camera right on the [TS]

02:35:52   hood of the car and the car just drop your price for a political what a [TS]

02:35:59   brilliant shot to get that right to wear like first of all he kicks it and makes [TS]

02:36:02   it makes a noise he kicks it again it gives a little he kicks it another time [TS]

02:36:06   and [TS]

02:36:06   shatters in a fairly believable way I think that was an easy shot to get oh I [TS]

02:36:10   i was thinking about it because it [TS]

02:36:12   no because the guys driving the cars motion with the car yeah exactly i mean [TS]

02:36:16   who knows how you know whether kicking the windshield would I don't know how [TS]

02:36:20   they mounted to the hood of the car but however they mounted the guy i don't [TS]

02:36:24   even know like is there a way that they have the camera doesn't pan or move it [TS]

02:36:27   also me i'm guessing that maybe they had it set up so that ran without a human [TS]

02:36:32   operator I I don't know it seemed to me like Sir merch walter murch was the film [TS]

02:36:38   editor is a set the sound designer for this when and the end of the first movie [TS]

02:36:43   remember we talked about in toy story 3 the seatbelt the seatbelt you ever saw [TS]

02:36:47   yeah when when Michael is in the study and they come in and they pledged their [TS]

02:36:54   faithfulness to the godfather and al Amiri walks over to the door the krk [TS]

02:37:00   again doors always so important that looks like the cuban guy doors mirrors [TS]

02:37:04   but the K is standing outside watching this and you see a linear walk up making [TS]

02:37:09   eye contact with the camera and he closes that door and that door closing [TS]

02:37:14   is the door closing this door closes you've ever heard in your life like how [TS]

02:37:18   did you get such a perfect sound of like oh when that door closes in case face [TS]

02:37:22   right it's this is true it's the door closing historical does how much you [TS]

02:37:31   love about meri man what a badass [TS]

02:37:34   he's such a badass he's like and remember at one point that the dawn says [TS]

02:37:38   to Michael is like you found your Luca Brasi even now male neri gets a gut he's [TS]

02:37:44   still a badass [TS]

02:37:45   yeah um I guess my raps and yeah kid at some point I don't talk about this all [TS]

02:37:50   day buddy because mayo you know what to get your ex your star wars . though you [TS]

02:37:55   know and it's it's it's not fair as a comparison because I'm sure there's a [TS]

02:37:59   million differences but you know here's one here's one bald fact of this and [TS]

02:38:04   this kind of goes to Spielberg is 222 in some ways where you know in the case of [TS]

02:38:08   Spielberg and all three of them are proud of their work right you got a [TS]

02:38:12   couple you got Spielberg you got Lucas in the case of Coppola he's so proud of [TS]

02:38:18   his work that it means a lot to him [TS]

02:38:20   have the best conceivable copy available George Lucas has claimed that there's [TS]

02:38:24   not a decent single good copy of star wars to put together but you know what [TS]

02:38:27   you know is in the same position fucking Francis Ford Coppola so if you watch [TS]

02:38:31   that documentary you sit there your heart skips a beat when you watch what [TS]

02:38:35   the actual footage after paramount had gone after going out you know basically [TS]

02:38:39   cut out all of the other fades what they call that they had the long leaders [TS]

02:38:43   between scenes that cut those out to put on they take an original copies of the [TS]

02:38:47   film and butchered and so he basically i get sick they put some serious dough to [TS]

02:38:53   do like a 4k scan and rebuild the film right like that's that's pride in what [TS]

02:38:58   you do is that like yeah we've got all kinds of things we shuck and jive we [TS]

02:39:01   made this into five different versions for TV there's different versions on [TS]

02:39:03   video but like here is a version that week that will stand the test of time [TS]

02:39:07   that we can all be proud of [TS]

02:39:08   did you see that there's there's a new challenge . things floating around from [TS]

02:39:14   of star wars the army extended know and a totally new one it's somebody found a [TS]

02:39:22   35-millimeter print and have secretly been digitizing it and color correcting [TS]

02:39:31   it frame by frame for years now i got shot my joking you it's a let me see [TS]

02:39:42   here is there any like test footage out there I see if i have a link here it's [TS]

02:39:48   it's called the negative one version so if you do Star Wars negative 1 negative [TS]

02:39:55   number one out here we go team negative 1 yeah Tim May car was real three [TS]

02:39:59   sampler yeah it's if you I mean not that I don't have it because you know i mean [TS]

02:40:03   that's it wouldn't wouldn't be legit but if you did i see but if it did is this [TS]

02:40:07   that might exist and it might be 2626 gigabyte MK bit okay okay but if you [TS]

02:40:13   look just at the stuff that's out there it's a bunch of still frames her and [TS]

02:40:17   they show you like what they had from that because they went from a [TS]

02:40:20   35-millimeter print so that's not really that's not a great starting place now [TS]

02:40:25   they want and that's a product not a source yeah they went from there and [TS]

02:40:29   that's why they went through literally frame by frame and you know like sort of [TS]

02:40:34   as they did with the Godfather right have to go through and frame by frame [TS]

02:40:37   like rebuild this Indiana so just for example like one of the things that had [TS]

02:40:40   to do with this negative 1 printed new hope was that it like the initial [TS]

02:40:46   digital scans of the space scenes didn't even you could even see the stars they [TS]

02:40:49   had to do work just to get the dip my good measure up to get the storm but [TS]

02:40:55   they it's I I've literally I'm not even trying to be clear I don't have the [TS]

02:41:01   digital copy what's out there [TS]

02:41:02   look yet i'm 10 I mean like this is not this is not difficult to find [TS]

02:41:06   information there's a site there's a several places you can get go to but one [TS]

02:41:10   is called original trilogy right where they have discussion forums about the [TS]

02:41:14   different versions that are out there right but one of the things though that [TS]

02:41:18   it's like it with the what do you call the ones that are the d specialized [TS]

02:41:22   additions that a lot of well there's there's two there's two did you think to [TS]

02:41:25   general genres and people will correct me on this but I think one is uh fan [TS]

02:41:31   edits where people like so that something like this is like the Phantom [TS]

02:41:34   editor right where you go in and you kind of remake your own version of how [TS]

02:41:37   you think it should be or all the way down to a fanfiction kind of idea making [TS]

02:41:41   several movies together as fan edits and then what is the other version called [TS]

02:41:45   like you've got that the Army is in kind of a different thing where harmony [TS]

02:41:49   specialized versions are just what is the highest quality source version that [TS]

02:41:54   is what was in the original theatrical release right basically putting together [TS]

02:41:58   and then which is harder than it sounds because you have to get the sound [TS]

02:42:01   editing right to but even with his versions i think one of the things [TS]

02:42:04   that's lost just from going with all the diddling that Lucas Adam over the years [TS]

02:42:08   is that the color correction is off and the film grain texture is gone from what [TS]

02:42:15   you see and that it's it's the lord's work and it's the way i would recommend [TS]

02:42:19   anybody watching those movies if they can get their hands on them but one of [TS]

02:42:24   the things that that like its Lucas somehow had this version to the [TS]

02:42:29   technical limits of film of the seventies and [TS]

02:42:32   I it's like his as his sensibilities changed on the way you do color [TS]

02:42:36   correction and and the color temperature of things they change those original [TS]

02:42:40   things to do it whereas to mom again i can't say that i remember seeing the [TS]

02:42:44   Godfather in the theater because it came out in theatres before i was born but it [TS]

02:42:48   the way that Coppola has overseen you know that this footage it embraces the [TS]

02:42:54   film grain and it embraces the color temperatures and and you know color mean [TS]

02:43:00   like in the end I understand if I have watched the documentary a couple years [TS]

02:43:03   but it is a very good documentary both as a story and as a technical document [TS]

02:43:07   but that but basically the grain was not seen as certainly as noise part of the [TS]

02:43:11   restoration was not screwing up the grain right where as part of the special [TS]

02:43:15   editions and whatever for Star Wars was let's get rid of this grain that we [TS]

02:43:18   wouldn't have if we shot it today which you know and anyway that's what this [TS]

02:43:23   negative one issue of a new hope apparently you know it embraces the film [TS]

02:43:29   grain and you can see it and that you know there's skies that on tattooing [TS]

02:43:33   that are completely blown out which is the way it looked when we were kids [TS]

02:43:36   instead of being bright blue like they are in the prints we know today [TS]

02:43:39   oh my goodness that's so interesting I'll keep an eye out for that anyway [TS]

02:43:44   yeah I don't you know I hate to be overly critical that's it so fashionable [TS]

02:43:49   to beat up on George Lucas or what we perceive George Lucas to be but you know [TS]

02:43:53   it's just the part the part that makes it difficult and complicated I'm not the [TS]

02:43:57   first person to say this is that when we start to wonder if what we love about [TS]

02:44:02   Star Wars what he loved about Star Wars not that has to matter but like I bet [TS]

02:44:06   you could sit in a room with Coppola and watch that movie and he would be excited [TS]

02:44:10   to watch it [TS]

02:44:11   yeah where he would go I can't believe we got that like you know like just they [TS]

02:44:15   can that shot you have no idea how hard it was to get that shot looking you know [TS]

02:44:17   where as you know with Lucas I mean I wonder if he even enjoys any version of [TS]

02:44:22   that film because it really just feels like it's an ongoing it's an ongoing [TS]

02:44:25   christmas tree in his life that he's constantly redecorating depending on how [TS]

02:44:28   he feels right now not based on like what the ideal version this would be but [TS]

02:44:32   I don't know and I i know that's unkind but that's the part is where you go like [TS]

02:44:36   it's really strange like when he got left to his own devices with a not [TS]

02:44:40   unlimited but very generous budget didn't get battery he didn't produce [TS]

02:44:45   what we explain what we hoped or like what you know when we thought of george [TS]

02:44:49   lucas in seven years like he's the king of our imagination like he's got the [TS]

02:44:53   best look up there with jim henson right in terms of like he gets something in a [TS]

02:44:56   way that I just can't [TS]

02:44:58   and he gets that on the screen and especially those first two movies [TS]

02:45:01   yeah it's just weird when you're like you got a point where like what happened [TS]

02:45:03   is this a cap grasping that they swap him out like who thought puppet meetings [TS]

02:45:07   would be fun [TS]

02:45:08   yeah I I think for the special editions in particular you could get you could [TS]

02:45:12   effectively say an unlimited budget that to just make the original trilogy as [TS]

02:45:17   good as he wanted to be four reissue in theaters now in preparation for the new [TS]

02:45:22   trilogy just to get people excited again whatever it costs I'm sure it was well [TS]

02:45:26   within the bounds of but what any studio you know what have you put up the money [TS]

02:45:30   for and you know week we got like a bad that darkness or stuck in them [TS]

02:45:36   Mos Eisley yeah exactly that's a better just like more and more advanced little [TS]

02:45:41   rats running around [TS]

02:45:43   yeah the john its hanging over the everything farting forget everything [TS]

02:45:48   farts everything farts [TS]

02:45:50   that's right that would be a great addition to the Godfather just add some [TS]

02:45:54   farts for you can start noticing those oranges once you notice the oranges you [TS]

02:45:59   really see the oranges doing there are so many oranges in these movies and it's [TS]

02:46:03   never something good that happens after the guy comes in to begin to talk about [TS]

02:46:09   his daughter who got you know left up flipping quickly so many right after to [TS]

02:46:18   divide out right after video says you never come from a friendship before is [TS]

02:46:25   to show you i'm not a callous man she was the best piece of ass I ever had [TS]

02:46:30   mr. Wallace could you call me a car and under the girl this we got him [TS]

02:46:47   you never get out of that Santino and then the same way that they they they [TS]

02:46:51   made a han Solo look like you stepped on job as tail just make make robert duvall [TS]

02:46:55   look like it lifts right but just worried like awkwardly shifts a little [TS]

02:47:02   bit like help-help get it out in one box they're going around godmother to and [TS]

02:47:10   introducing everybody Batista is introducing everybody at the meeting [TS]

02:47:13   interna and from you tnt correspondent Rob okay somebody out there I don't know [TS]

02:47:24   who is gonna be I'm just imagining somebody like a Joe steal somebody could [TS]

02:47:28   do this [TS]

02:47:28   Todd I'm sure Todd could do this could we please get at least one short [TS]

02:47:32   supercut of the George listen George Lucas special edition of The Godfather [TS]

02:47:38   with farts like that then that meeting and Cuba just some CGI add a bunch of [TS]

02:47:45   like really rich Cuban food to the given four million bucks for it or not hurt [TS]

02:47:52   when i take a piss [TS]

02:47:53   whoa alright I think that's a show [TS]

02:47:59   oh thanks for having me on Jonathan we helped a lot of people i hope the [TS]

02:48:02   weekend goes okay i hope you see us survive make sure you pick up some extra [TS]

02:48:05   bread gonna run out right now [TS]

02:48:15   god I love you [TS]