00:00:00 ◼ ► you were at CES i was now correct me if I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► so this is the second year ok and you came on the show last year and talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► about ces writing this might be our third or fourth the annual CES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► discussion with and I think the first 2i didn't go and we were like oh we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/11">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► go and last year I went for the first time my it is absolutely a John groover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/15">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► the talkshow tradition that like mid january i have someone on we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/23">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► ces and then I say you know what damn it next year I'm going next year comes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/28">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► you almost need to start planning it now and it's funny because they've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► changed the website over to 2017 CES right I wonder if they have a script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/39">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► that does that it was like the next day boom yeah the websites already turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/44">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► over is great man i loved it it was super fun it's it's absolute insanity I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► mean you go to Vegas a lot it is and i have i had not been to Vegas in 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/55">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► actually before last year's CES and it is absolute chaos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/61">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► I mean there are 200,000 people there who do not belong they are there from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/66">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► its really it's kind of neat because basically what happens is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► beginning of the year you know that not everyone but I'll a lot 200,000 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/74">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► who work in tech and in adjacent industries are all living in one city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/79">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► for a week so you run into people who you know you would not expect to see I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/85">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► totally like randomly ran into a guy in a restaurant we were both waiting to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/90">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► at the bar and we ended up eating lunch together who's like was partially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/96">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► responsible for the creation of the mp3 random random stuff like that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/99">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► you're like reading slack and your co-workers like hey you know that Reed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► Hastings is giving a talk across you know in in another place in Vegas like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/108">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► now I didn't know that you know there's just so much going on it's it's absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/113">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► madness and chaos but if you can tolerate it and I guess enough trip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/117">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► Tokyo have now made me totally chilled out around massive crowds it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/124">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► I think the crowds they wouldn't that wouldn't bother me i can take crowds in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/131">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► small doses and I me when I go to design a couple times a year and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► that I I would i like though with if you go somewhere like that is if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/140">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► take the time to spend sometime somewhere away from the crowd every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/144">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► yeah where it gets to you and I don't mind the actual crop work gets too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► that the the infrastructure is just way beyond capacity I mean did people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/153">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► talking about waiting an hour just to get on the monorail just getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► the station or you know you go you want to go anywhere to eat lunch forget it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/163">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► like you're waiting or they have this shuttle bus that goes from one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/167">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► it because it basically takes up both the sands and the las vegas convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► centers and they have a shuttle bus a free shuttle bus that goes between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► it can't be more than a mile and you know what it's not far now and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/181">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► walked it and it's totally walkable I mean there's barely any sidewalk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► this bus trip takes like 40 minutes because there's so much traffic because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/190">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► everyone else is in a cab trying to get between these places and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/195">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► last year I stayed at the fairly far south end of the strip and this year one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/200">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► of my priorities was stay somewhere further closer to the action at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/205">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► you could walk from south is the airport side right back down by mandalay bay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/210">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► yeah manually bit funny i mightn't in my head I feel like that's up like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/215">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► up the strip hell ya down the strip is down by like the weirdest here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► yeah but it's the other way around right right yeah and so that was useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/223">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► although a lot of the stuff a lot of the like official press conferences are at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/227">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► mandalay bay crazy though it's like so far away i know i'm i'm in a fortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► position where I could basically pick you know courts where I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/237">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► qz com is a you know where were still small enough that we can be picky about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/242">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► what we cover so i don't have to actually go and live blog and end video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/248">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► press conference or something like that no one's telling me I need to do that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► i actually got to skip all those official press conference type thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► I didn't actually have to go down to mandalay bay this time but a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► lot of the action like the good stuff's going on at Metro cosmopolitan at the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/265">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► the at the win and venetian so you really want to be hanging out toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/271">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► kind of centered in North yeah strip most of the time so it was anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► when courts there or were you the only representative reports there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► um no several I think there were four of us this year to from our ad side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► then my colleague Mike Murphy who's a reporter who writes about we we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/290">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► beat called machines with brains and its drones robots ki and that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/296">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► and he was very busy there's a lot although he did he uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/302">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► he came to CES with a cold you can't do that because you're going to get sick by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/307">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► the end but you can't show up with a cold so I felt bad about that but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/313">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► yeah he was there with me and we were we were basically just you know doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/318">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► meetings hitting the show floor the show Flores is comically extensive like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/323">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► can walk I I you know I had my Apple watch with me so wednesday was my was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/328">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► busiest day I think I walked over 14 miles on Wednesday whereas an average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/333">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► yeah that's not 40 anything over Tennyson I did 27,000 steps so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/341">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► that was pretty crazy in Boots to which was dumb but it cool so that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/347">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► recurring theme and i know we say this every year but that everybody goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/354">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► see as quote unquote everybody does but and then all all the writers they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/359">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► everybody just as soon as it hasn't even started yet and you twitter is filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► with you know people on in our racket saying how much they hate it ah which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/368">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► always makes me think well then why do you go you know like why does everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/373">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► go to this thing that they hate but I'm exactly with you my temptation to go is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/378">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► it's because I obvious i could write whatever the hell I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/382">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► so I'm not going and I can skip whatever I want so why understand that the hatred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► comes from people who if you get an assignment from an editor and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/392">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► press conferences to go to figure out what's new from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► LG and Samsung and you know whoever and it all just starts to blur together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/400">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► because everybody is making the exact same things 55 inch android phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► tablets and curved oled tvs and it all just blurs together and then you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/409">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► a schlep from one end to the other and it's got to be back-breaking if you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/415">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► know can't pick and choose where you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► one of the things we we struggled with was we shot a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► Mike Mike put on this exoskeleton suit that's designed to age you to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/424">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► hundred years old or something like that and do various things had like VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/429">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► goggles built in and and things that would make your muscles that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/433">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► make your body move more slowly and they would affect your vision and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/438">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► stuff and we took this video of him in the suit and then we realized that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/442">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► literally didn't have the ability to upload the video to dropbox like we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/447">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► what I'm not going to tether on my cell phone and do it our hotel Wi-Fi sucks we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► couldn't do it's like okay we almost have to go to a starbucks and I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/458">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► if the press room had a free ethernet connection we didn't actually go in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/462">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► press room because it it seemed like it was kind of a dump but that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► that would have solved our problem but it's just stuff like that where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► just completely out of your element but it's amazing like you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/474">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► one of the things we did is we scrape the list of exhibitors and just did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/479">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► very basic text analysis to see if there's any anything interesting we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► could find one thing that was was cool was over 500 of the companies had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/486">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► word shen zhen in the title of the company huh that there are miles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► miles and miles of tiny booths with one or two people from from shenzhen from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/496">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► China who come to America once a year and there they are and i got a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/502">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► little tour from a you know a little old lady of her line of perfect GoPro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/507">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► knockoffs and you know she's like giving me a demo of these things the same case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/513">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► same size you know looks exactly like a GoPro but it's sixty dollars or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/518">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► something like that and it was she was she saying it looks like a go pro or yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/522">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► that so she was mentioning the word go pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► blah yeah totally like that's the same cases the cover actually one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► booths you price saw this one of the booths that the one of the hoverboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/534">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► knockoffs was so similar to this one specific a kind of balance board thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/539">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► no I don't do this oh yeah I think Bloomberg got tipped off because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► some other sites got tipped off to and they videotaped it and basically the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► Marshals rated a booth they confiscated all the product and shut these guys down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/557">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► yeah yeah it's great i mean there are there a lot of knockoff looking things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► and i believe the bloomberg article interviewed someone from the the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/569">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► who put together the show and there you know that they're kind of as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► you're not i forgot what the the kind of limitations are but basically like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/579">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► be too fake i think is the is the line so in this case that didn't that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/585">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► work out that's got to be such a surprise to the vendor like I because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/591">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► you know i mean it's like yeah there's the culture of how we value knock off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/596">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► some it's so different between here in China and it's obviously it you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/603">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► whole concept of intellectual property isn't really like at an institutional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/608">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► cultural thing over there like there's no way that they would have that had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/612">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► be a complete surprise because if they would have thought it's even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► possibility they will be a dial it back i think so i did it seemed like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/620">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► were surprised I wasn't there and actually try to look for the booth but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► couldn't really find it is in it wasn't really worth putting a lot of effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► into but that's the kind of stuff that goes on and but meanwhile there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► forty different drone companies and you know of all shapes and sizes a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/636">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► a bunch of companies who paid up big bucks for big boots like the size of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/642">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► intel booth from from China that you know you really haven't heard of unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/647">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► you're in the TV industry so it was it was really fascinating you realize how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/651">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► insignificant you are in the world when you're at CES like there's just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/658">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► never heard of and there's so many people who are doing stuff that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/663">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► is similar to what you're doing but you've never heard of before and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► walk around exhausted dehydrated and it's cool i love it it's great fire died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/671">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► rato can you just go can get water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► I guess I get yeah I i actually I joke about this but like I almost set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► calendar reminders saying OK drink water right now make sure you have lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► because then it's three o'clock and you have any lunch and you're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► falling asleep i was carrying around a kind bar in my backpack just to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► sure that I think he did some protein I'd still be alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► I find that true AI do i've developed that the reflexive habit of always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/704">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► drinking something in Vegas so many yeah that's weird guys on coffee or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/710">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► afternoon whenever you wake up but then in the afternoon it's like at any free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► moment if you have an opportunity to put water in your hand do it and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/719">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► it's like in addition to you know the dehydrating effect of alcohol the desert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/724">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► air really is a thing if you're not used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► I mean it really even if you weren't even if you don't drink alcohol I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► you're going to get dried out in Vegas shockingly it was actually raining a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/736">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► couple of days which which was super weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/741">TS</a>]
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00:14:05 ◼ ► thursday friday saturday but I think previous years it was like tuesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/845">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► wednesday thursday friday i don't know it was definitely a day off this year to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► go later I think because of the holiday but but everybody who covers it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/854">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► almost everybody comes it comes a couple days early because there's like pre-show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/859">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► announcements like like there's like the I don't know if they call them keynotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/863">TS</a>]
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00:14:32 ◼ ► like this year I like on monday and tuesday there are press conferences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/872">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► then there are keynotes and their separate i guess i don't remember like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► Steve Ballmer always did what I was like the sunday night right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/880">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► the car mount yeah the kickoff I don't know like this year there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/884">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► things we were going to go on sunday and then I think there may have even been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/888">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► some stuff saturday or at least sunday and we decided to to fly in on monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/892">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► and we did miss some stuff that happened Monday but tuesday like the show floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/899">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► is not was not open yet although we got into do a couple meetings they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/905">TS</a>]
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00:15:14 ◼ ► barely have finished like the day before and people are definitely there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► night working this setup up and it's absolutely like there's you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/919">TS</a>]
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00:15:27 ◼ ► on and then Wednesday is when it was totally open and just chaos like I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/927">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► guided tour of the samsung booth but it was really not useful for any of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/935">TS</a>]
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00:16:06 ◼ ► basement of the sands has a lot of very small boots and that's actually one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/966">TS</a>]
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00:16:18 ◼ ► took me on a tour of the little like that the interesting startups that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/978">TS</a>]
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00:16:33 ◼ ► it was all pretty good just a lot of garbage everywhere so you have to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► find the good stuff that's the thing that I miss about macworld and macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/997">TS</a>]
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00:17:17 ◼ ► finally pulled the plug but even then when it wouldn't overlap it just felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1037">TS</a>]
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00:21:05 ◼ ► people do you see at CES wearing Google glass because i feel like if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1265">TS</a>]
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00:23:58 ◼ ► come to read their full disclosure so here's here so you didn't get there til [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► Monday you're saying that's right mind would you do so what did you do on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► Tuesday Tuesday I tuesday i woke up too early and got breakfast and then we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► to this meeting where Mike war the exoskeleton and was how did you set that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► how did you set that meeting that's one of my worries is that I would go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► and without having set anything up and I don't have like this i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► anybody to set stuff up for me and then get out there and I just you know end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► playing blackjack all day see that would be fun i would like to play blackjack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► with you all day because as we'll discuss in a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► I did not play any blackjack so which is which is not excusable I don't wanna see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► a dead then again I don't see how that is i know so so here's here's the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► part of CES when you sign up for a press badge your email gets given to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► 3000 or whatever 2,000 companies that have signed up to exhibit and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► I'm not even exaggerating like I this year was smart night I did the gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► thing where you can add a plus sign yeah so i made it you know Dan plus CES @ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► q.com so i could filter there are now all filtering into the toilet like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► not getting the people are still sending emails that are good for them but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► not seeing any of them so you get your old wino that matrix i just want to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► let me hold it is that yeah it instantly popped into my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► I mean it it's like if I was a type of dirtbags ran like a prl PR people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► dirt bag but if I was about to start sending email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► those people I would have it right like a little script that takes any gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► address with plus take out the plus you know i mean like it would be so easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► yeah i mean i'm sure some a couple people remarked on that they're like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► clever clever with the plus sign or whatever I mean I get a lot of email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► from PR people as it is and I'm actually i would say pretty fair about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► asking people not to send me certain types of I know I find it so hard i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► a convention or conference or something like that I i'm terrible at staying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► top of my email on a normal day when I'm at my desk but it's really i always fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► behind and so to have have them making it even harder to to just keep an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► eyeball on what's coming into my email would be would be terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► the problem for me is that I've now been it inbox zero for four years which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► all day i'm constantly deleting emails i can I don't let them pile up anymore so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► anyway so i would get you know invited to everything from like tours to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► meetings to press conferences and that kind of stuff and I accepted i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► five or six of the 10 roughly a thousand that I got and I said and those entities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1613">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► to be clear those came will be for long before the show even started because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► it's it starts when you actually register with CES like in november or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► yes ok yeah so you know and and some of them are like party invites the sum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► the stuff doesn't come until you know the week before or a couple days before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► but a lot of the companies are you know trying to set up as many meetings as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► you can also kind of check what what topics you're interested in and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► I was probably a little too excited about checking lots of different topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► that I should not have like audio you know you check off audio and then every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► headphone companies emailing you asking for a meeting and that kind of stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► i think next year I'll probably be more selective about about that and do even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► fewer meetings because they're there you know if you need to get a last minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► meeting there are pretty much always available this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► that the stuff that's really cool is going to be kind of hard to access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► anyway and those are the people who are least likely to set stuff up with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► ahead of time unless year you know whatever the verge or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► that you get first dibs on a lot of stuff so yeah I said all that stuff up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► and so what I said Tuesday you know I had a couple meetings and I had lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► and then i went to a dinner probably and then met up with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► Oh tuesday i want your party and probably stayed out late and yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► that's what i said Rupert Murdoch that was kind of interesting and so where was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► he he was just walking down the hall the win that's where he stayed so i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► wrote this article so so one thing I didn't know and I thought it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► to be I thought it was gonna be a bigger surprise to people then it turned out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► be no one really cared but so Eddy Cue was at CES and you you wrote an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► honest yes into any q's at CES speaking at Rupert Murdoch's private mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► conference which he holds in his suite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► every year it's two days and he brings in like a fantastic list of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► it's not for the public or anything it's 4 News Corp and Fox executives and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► year the people who were scheduled to present range from the CEO of snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► to send our from google CEO of Google eddy cue from apple and a bunch just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► bunch of other like the guy from salesforce.com a bunch of other really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► high level of Benedict Devon's from andreessen horowitz some startup people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► and so that's cool and I you know that's the kind of thing where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► there's this whole huge CES thing going on meanwhile in rupert murdoch sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► there's like the best you know one of the best conference lineups in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► and it's just for like a handful of top of executives who work for him but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► that's the kind of thing you can do it see yes because so many of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► although i was interesting because of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► sample somewhat famously does not have an official presence at CES my guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► that you know some people from Apple go just to kind of look at stuff that'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► kind of silly not to how I'd i know for a fact that it and even when macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► was a thing and it was coincident that there were people from the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► marketing group who I when every year just to do the due diligence of walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► around you know and and the question was always whether we know what what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► would put on their badge and notify my today just the you-know-what officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► go and they have apple on the badge and if people wanted to talk about they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► it they just didn't you know that it wasn't real cloak-and-dagger stuff they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► just you know but they were there to just see what else you know the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► yeah I mean maybe it'd be foolish not to I i think that someone was telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► that they saw a couple Apple people you know this year just walking around but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► wasn't there for that but i wouldn't even be surprised if it's actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► multiple teams you know like different yeah you know not even in coordination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► you know the product marketing people they're just there in general but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► you know like notebook engineers are there just to look at all the crazy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► the crazy notebooks that are you know being put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► yeah I would and then you get to be in vegas right and maybe run into rupert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► murdoch he was you looked at he looked good he was wearing a nice suit and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► sneakers walking down this walking down the hallway outside of a party that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► was leaving so it was just like in the hotel you mean I got a hallway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► yes in the wind outside of one of their like nightclub e-type venues huh crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► yeah but I mean today was up this was around I think 11pm or 1010 something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► p.m. see that's why you go to see yes totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► yeah actually i'll never forget one of my when i worked at forbes now almost 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► years ago one of my colleagues wrote an article about actually may have been CES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► 10 years ago where she was randomly at a booth when Bill Gates showed up to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► at the booth and what an interesting cool experience that was like can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► imagine being the the tiny booth operator and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► you like Bill Gates walks up and says hey give me a demo have to find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► article I wonder forbes has archives that may be forever work to trade show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► booth I i don't think so i might when I was a kid my dad I think had a booth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► there like a part of one at some point for a store he was involved in by I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► never had to work a booth i did when i worked at bare bones so cool for bbedit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► and I guess male Smith even at the time but we you know we have a booth at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► macworld and it is grueling it in sometimes though it's it could be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► don't know it's like three in the afternoon and you've been on your feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► since nine and you've been spent making the same pitch over and over again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► you know I I repetition has never been good for me I mean not that I'm not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► at it but I get bored quickly but then all of a sudden like you you meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► somebody and somebody will tell you this amazing story of how like bbedit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► know save their website or something like that they take and they just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► to thank you and you're just like oh my god that's amazing made my day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► you know let me go get it let me go get rich single and you can tell it to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► that's great but boy it is hard it is really hard and you can just see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► right now and it's just it's just a funny thing to have on under my belt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► experienced and now whenever i'm at a trade show and walk around I'd have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► sympathy for every single person doing those you know working those boots that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► yeah it's grueling and you have like a tradeshow approved vendors that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► to do everything with and you know good luck this to you know 20-minute line for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► the bathroom and yeah so what else what else did you do at CES alli and I hung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► out with the with walt mossberg that was that was a highlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► I saw that that's what your eye I saw thing me I saw a periscope this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► visit my perspective it's oh I think it might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► like maybe like 1230 at night east coast time so would have been maybe like 930 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► I think so and I saw somebody who I follow on twitter from the verge tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► a link to periscope that their periscoping from inside a blinged-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► crazy blinged-out limo that new life had rented for some and I thought I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► see this because i don't know you know I know what a regular lemon looks like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► got to see what like a special you know call attention to it looks like so i put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► the periscope on and it's a meal I and a couple of other people i knew from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► verge and the inside of this limo it really was like it was like all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► leftover neon from Old Las Vegas was all inside this lemma basically and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► the periscope is painting around and here's verge staffers and i was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► about ready to do not disconnect because it's a boy and then I see a guy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► was like holy shit that one guy looks like dan frommer and I was like who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► that and they're like and we've got damn from quartz and michael lee shit is dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► and I was like wow now it's like in right now i have a friend in the limo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► now i'm interested and I noticed it seemed to me like everybody was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► tipsy and you were like this totally normal and now and then it got crazier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► because then it got to the far side of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► it was a truly massive limo and then all of a sudden Walt Mossberg and Kara [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► yeah they were riding in the backseat and I was fascinated that what you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► doing you guys were on your way from like one into the strip to the other we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► were all at a dinner that they have usually the last night or what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2154">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► one of the last night's every year kind of a press dinner and I guess we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► all going to the cosmopolitan where there was a Twitter Spotify party and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2167">TS</a>]
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00:36:26 ◼ ► I don't think it was pre-planned or anything just happened was funny though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2186">TS</a>]
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00:36:34 ◼ ► scope when they when they put the camera in your face well I never know what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► say i never would I don't want to set it was here it was funny though i am i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► like they were like 300 people watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2202">TS</a>]
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00:36:50 ◼ ► in possession of to really be good at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2210">TS</a>]
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00:37:01 ◼ ► town here in philly and I was doing some periscopes walking around at the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► ways that they shut down it enormous major thoroughfares in philly which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2226">TS</a>]
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00:37:18 ◼ ► entirely free of cars not even like parked cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2238">TS</a>]
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00:37:25 ◼ ► I easily overflow the limits of periscope even you know just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► did you uh did you recently joined snapchat I did that was me that was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2253">TS</a>]
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00:37:44 ◼ ► know and someone was was in this I'm not that old but I sound like it i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2264">TS</a>]
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00:37:54 ◼ ► ever posted anything because I just don't really know what to post or or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2274">TS</a>]
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00:38:03 ◼ ► spur-of-the-moment life through your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2283">TS</a>]
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00:38:24 ◼ ► everything was ephemeral and nothing gets saved and everybody la you can send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► dick pics but people did use it for that but then like teenagers could use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► send like love notes to each other and know that there are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► disappeared by the next day and that I that made sense to me and I felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► understand what this product does and i'm not a teenager anymore I've no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► have no need for it so I didn't know it but then I've heard now it's more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► social network and I see what turned me on to it was doing it you know Gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► Vaynerchuk is yes I gary vaynerchuk has been raving about it lately and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► been saying that he hasn't been this excited about something since Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► circuit 2007 and he really what I do remember that's my first met Gary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► gary was huge on twitter and like 2006-2007 said this thing is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► blow up it's going to be huge everybody's going to be on Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► he was right and so that him saying that this is how he feels about snapchat made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► me think why I should sign up for this and see if I can figure it out and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► did and there's a part of the process where it's like to want to state you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► know notified you know here's people you know if from your address book you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► to follow them and I did and you're you're not the first person who's asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► is this really you look because it i guess it seems a little surprising that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► i would sign up for snapchat well is also under the name of the site and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► oh right and that was because you might be a little late to get the Gruber name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2384">TS</a>]
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00:39:54 ◼ ► weren't there and i also had the at the notion that if i do if it does become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► maybe it would be more of a you know daring fireball thing that a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► yeah actually would not be a you know it's kind of like a periscope in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► same way it's like here's a kind of unedited view of of life maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► from the WWDC press bullpen right like that yeah that's cool but I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► get the right during fireball name either right oh really i think i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2420">TS</a>]
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00:40:26 ◼ ► don't know who the shitbag is but some some jerk has daring fireball like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2426">TS</a>]
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00:40:58 ◼ ► just the username and I actually haven't looked at it in a couple days so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2458">TS</a>]
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00:41:12 ◼ ► it was like over the weekend i think it was over the weekend but it within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► all of a sudden everybody on twitter is talking about a new social network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2476">TS</a>]
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00:41:40 ◼ ► like Twitter except that instead of getting a timeline you have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► each single prayer every single person you follow individually to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► they're up to and it it's a poor idea for social network implemented in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► poorly made and designed app like the buttons and the app don't you you tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► there's no visual indication that you've tapped it there's no highlight and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► to make it even worse nothing happens sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2526">TS</a>]
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00:42:14 ◼ ► do before it took three seconds and then it no one away to very very shitty app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► if I interesting it's I mean it's actually you know as Twitter starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► add more don't know what you'd call them formats or something media types to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► Twitter this is kind of like you know going a giant leap ahead of that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► you can make drawings you can make animations you can add photos but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► timeline is weird it's not a timeline of post-its a timeline of people so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2562">TS</a>]
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00:43:04 ◼ ► posts in a row but you know you'll always be the person at the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► timeline and that might get annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► I don't know it's a I don't think it's we're talking about much more now let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► not as with any new social network most of the posts on that most but many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► the posts are about peach itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► yeah so we'll see if it gets beyond that it what's interesting about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► it's made by one of the people who made it is the guy who made vine so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► the only reason it got any kind of traction because vine is a real thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► and there's real people who were you know using it happily and it's it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2616">TS</a>]
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00:43:57 ◼ ► search engines right before Google came out so you know who knows what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► actually going to happen but it seems like this is one of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► it's just not different enough to really justify putting too much time and effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2646">TS</a>]
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00:47:00 ◼ ► and you know still I would say maybe a little more mysterious but all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► so-called rumors and like calls for Apple to headline CES and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► that that was just completely idiotic like even more even now more in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2832">TS</a>]
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00:47:33 ◼ ► that that could have happened back then just seems completely foolish now i miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► macworld and I really do in its heyday was great and it was for exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► you said though it's that it was away the main reason was just the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► everybody who covered APPL or worked in apple related things was all in san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► francisco at the exact same time which is great and then secondarily it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► great it was actually great so every year and I'd find one or two things two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► new companies of making products that it you know I didn't know otherwise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► even in the Internet era when that became a lot easier to find you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► little companies that are from oddball locations around the world it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► always happen but I totally understand why apple pulled the plug on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► involvement in Macworld which was way less involved than would have been if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► they gone to CES right because macworld especially San Francisco one which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► the last show was local to them and it the entire show revolved around their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► ecosystem but I totally understand why they got away from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► yeah i mean i wouldn't be surprised if like someone took a meeting with someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► from cea or whatever and and you know heard them out but there's just no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► know Apple can command as much attention as it as it gets on its own why would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► why would participate in something that's going to be super noisy and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2934">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► yeah and it in the thing and the Apple i think actually was upfront about this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► don't i think when they stopped the day you know publicly said we're not does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► the last time we're going to do a macworld keynote it was the year that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► it was the year when Steve Jobs fell ill again and ended up going on a medical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► leave and he you know he did they announce like his medical leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► I forget it was like december january but they said that you know very messily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► here is always have it was handled very poorly probably because of steve you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► know that it was his desire for pot for privacy was in direct conflict with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► companies need to you know they they they were giving a keynote at macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► expo in early January and be you know that they have certain public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► obligations regarding the executive leadership it was all very messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► although you know obviously it's moot point now but i remember though that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► $YEAR it was announced that eh Phil Schiller will be giving the keynote at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► macworld next month and be this will be the last keynote apple ever gives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► Macworld Expo so they announced that before the macworld expo which was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► some some people took that as sort of a dick move because it kind of did cast a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► few nariyal feel to the whole thing because I gave me I mean they were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► know they still had at least two more mad world after that but everybody knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► at this point that it was going to be a a greatly diminished back world without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► Apple but on the other hand I kind of think I don't know that it was a dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► pronouncing that because i think it gave everybody a chance to soak it up and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► may be gave people who were like a maybe i'll go maybe I'll not go it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► yeah that was the only year I went and it was it was really cool to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► see it once anything else from CES I don't think so I mean you know i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► go on forever it was was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► it was fun it was exhausting and next year you're coming so we can so someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► will play blackjack with me i can't really complain about how do you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► find time for because it would be like 2am and I hadn't you know it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► guess I should go to sleep see you because the people are you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► people i was with the either just want to keep drinking or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► I don't know I actually don't know and there's like some I think it started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► ironically but there's like a lot of the tech writers play Pai Gow Poker which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► also didn't get to play we were going to and then I got separated from that group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► and I don't know if they ever did or not but anyway next year see that I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► starting to get a sense of how this could happen and why it's inexplicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► to me how you can have like a four-day trip to vegas and not into playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► blackjack and it sounds to me look and i know you i think this is probably too it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► seems to me that the difference is that you have at least a lick of common sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► i don't know how i don't know i was ya know I i would have liked to it in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► last year's psychologist at the last night and then the last night it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► like 1am and I I couldn't even put a hundred bucks on the cubs to win the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► World Series last year because I ran out of time before the sportsbook close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► oh did you get in this year no are they not taken not taken yet i don't know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► sure they're taking them it's there i don't know i guess they probably could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► win this year I didn't think they were gonna when I didn't think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► going to be even close last year so how they're going to be I did together gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► are they gonna be the National League favorites maybe could be because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► going to the Cardinals around worse Cardinals have gotten more and the Mets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► come on the Mets that was a fluke have gotten worse already the Mets have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► already lost lost talent and I don't think they're going to science espetus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► they did they mention have pitching and that's it and then the Dodgers are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► turmoil right and nobody did I don't think anybody knows what's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► with the doctors and they're probably worse because they they lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► oh what's his name the guy who used to be on the Royals yeah i forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► so anyway I think your cubbies are going to be I don't think you're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► good odds just keep your hair when yeah that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► this could be the year where you get your you get your Cubs win the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► series ticket and you end up winning like six hundred dollars on a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► dollar bet not even i think it's like $MONEY for 21 or something i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► i think last year with 721 that's how is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► it seems like even when the Cubs have talent the Cubs oughta have to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► yeah they're the cops they're gonna be like a there the Cubs discount on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► you have ticket in the same way with with the Yankees that even when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► Yankees that look like they're not a good but you know they don't really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► it that the yankees still should only be like a 2-1 every year even if they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► no chance because I Yankees like you shouldn't really you should not be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► to make a lot of money by betting on the Yankees 2-1 on series now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► practically cheating right that's why I love him that's like betting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► house but basically yeah so anyway basic just a bit you go that you go to see as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► you go two days earlier so because you want to hit these the keynotes and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► the announcements and then you book two days a week you stayed there for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► days to do the show for can you do the whole show floor in two days you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► never get you'll never do the whole thing you have to pick and choose we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► even we didn't get to talking about more than one tiny portion of it there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► whole convention center which is like the North Central and South halls each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► of which have multiple zones and then there's the Westgate to which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► something else I don't even know i have anything go to the Westgate don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► that that's something else like next door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► I've seen the sign I don't even know what it is though is it like a hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► yeah I think it's kind of a junkie casino hotel with its own convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► center and part of CES is it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► yeah i think it's so crazy i got it i'm going next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► yeah you should I should look let's do it all right stay somewhere nice though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► well I only state the win oh wow all right there might be a price to present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► my feet yeah when I looked well when I looked at it had sold out but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► before that it lets I will figure out how to do this early so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► we don't get screwed but yeah I wonder what that I know that they sell i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► that the wynn and encore sellout because they're a they're the best place on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► I don't well there's no ideal location but it's about as close to ideal as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► can get because it's right across the street from the venetian and palazzo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► which is the way that the the that's the casino that's connected to the sands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► yes it's so my guess is that the the you know the first like my hotels the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► night with was fifty dollars in the second the third and fourth minus 4 350 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► wow yeah it's like a huge like just the difference between pre CES and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► doing nothing where did you stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► well I stayed ahead to stay at the flamingo oh that's right you told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► that you didn't tell me that right and the filming go ahead . not that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► it's yeah it was well located it's on the monorail so that was fine it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► fine i mean i stayed in the new tower and it was fine but hey maybe next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► by CS will have the the Las Vegas city notes so you'll know where to where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► yeah I know where to hang out now you don't want to hang it like I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► probably right the Las Vegas city nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► did you see I relaunched it now when you've been offline a lot lately yeah if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► you go to City notes that co you know as I think I you know talked about on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► show before but yet the idea was that I was making these apps where if you go if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3415">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► you're traveling to a city and you just want a short list of like the cool stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► for your cool friend would take you and not the lame touristy stuff or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► know fancy silly stuff that i would just have this list for you and and I did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► new york one and had a San Francisco one and these were iphone apps that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► selling in the app store and it was you know long story short it was cumbersome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► to make and an update these apps as apps and it was also not really you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► paid app model has as you know is not a great business model for for certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► of content so it's a website now it's city notes . co i have a Tokyo and Paris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► list up there and if you're going to those cities check them out and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► working on new york next and then probably los angeles and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► working as a website it's like free for me to update and keep current and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► see what happens but interesting that's my little side project yeah I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► we'll see what we'll see what happens with it but I just relaunched about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► excellent what else is going on about this is one time with this el chapo haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► did I ever read the sean penn thing yet did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► I did but I didn't finish it and it's it's like the stupidest thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► couldn't remember which device i was reading it on so I haven't gotten back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► to it but i loved it i thought it was fantastic i really really liked it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► going to read it and I think I think it's one of the best pieces written by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► non writer and there's it's funny it seems like maybe Rolling Stone aye i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► not sure what the backstory is and I don't know how much of this is if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► out there and I just don't know because I didn't finish the article yet like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► visited him in October and the articles coming out now but it it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► maybe they felt like their hand was pressed when the authorities took out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► Chapo back into custody and they wanted to publish it but it it's clearly a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► light editing pass it you know in terms of it it doesn't read like your typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► Rolling Stone feature it a lot of Sean Penn's personality is is infused in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► pros and I think he did a hell of a job there's is certain touches that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► writer like felt like a little over-the-top like it's a little awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► in certain phrasing but for the most part though I really enjoy the visceral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3571">TS</a>]
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00:59:46 ◼ ► just does things that other people that just never occurs of to do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► with the hurricane and in New Orleans was that hurricane what was it called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3592">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► there's Sean Penn like in a rowboat saving people you know getting off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► roofs you know like what the hell Sean Penn doing on a rowboat into New Orleans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► how did he get there how do you get to a flooded city if you don't live there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► you know what song he's he just went and you know at what a crazy idea to have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3614">TS</a>]
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01:00:32 ◼ ► well I guess in in in Spanish and say Chapo el trapo that he was given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► editorial control essentially that he was allowed to you know make changes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► at least reject the it was submitted it with the agreement was a wolf will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► submit to you you know a manuscript if you have objections we will take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► objections right so a lot of people are saying and and whatever they said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► he didn't make any changes or something like yeah but a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► criticizing that as you know essentially a you know a press release from El Chapo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► written by sean penn submitted to rolling stone which is hit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► historically a journalistic organization and they just go and run it i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► i think it's i think it's that's kind of the time we're in for a lot of places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► are just publishing directly on medium and or on their websites or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► like that if you look at elon musk e does the same thing so I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► I it would be a tough call for the editor of rolling stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3693">TS</a>]
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01:01:40 ◼ ► about this because it's certainly gotten them a lot of attention and pray a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► of web traffic and but it's interesting like to what do you do you allow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3704">TS</a>]
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01:01:56 ◼ ► right up front that's how the article starts is in init Alex like it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3716">TS</a>]
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01:02:07 ◼ ► for this entire thing before it started was an agreement that the article would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► be submitted to a chop those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► for their approval and it was and they didn't make any changes and so to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► that the the what makes it okay is the fact that they disclose that been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► clear language right up front and that they secure like so the our Chapel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► people said we want to approve the article and I think the Rolling Stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3747">TS</a>]
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01:02:41 ◼ ► whether or not you changed anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► and so to me obviously that's less than ideal would be great if the El Chapo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► people just said you can write whatever you want but obviously they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3767">TS</a>]
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01:02:55 ◼ ► article exist then if it didn't like it when it's not like they had the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► to do it without that arrangement right fact that it was disclosed to me makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3779">TS</a>]
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01:03:09 ◼ ► it's feeling a certain purity test are being a lot of them are jealous that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3789">TS</a>]
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01:03:19 ◼ ► not like they're yeah or something that says that you know every every article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► published anywhere must be vetted by something or something like that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► so whatever I if if you're jealous that your publication did not get the scoop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► on El Chapo from sean penn I guess that sucks but it is interesting i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► i think it's cool I i want to read it i saved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► i'm going to read it I i like the idea of getting kinda raw writing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► non-traditional writers I think that's really that is that to me is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► and in terms of well the the argument that this could just be a press release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► from El Chapo obviously that's a risk I mean but you just read the article with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► an open mind and judge for yourself and I having read most of the article would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► say it's definitely not the case it doesn't whitewash over anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► really just sort of a first-person narrative you are there this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► it's like to try to get to this guy story at to me it was just a good read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► but I think you have to keep an open mind on something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► and i also think that there's a certain sense sanctimonious among the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► professional journalists who like object to this on you know this is not the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► it's done by serious publications uh is that those publications that have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► rules like if I'm sure a lot of them don't really do have it codified you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► know like 60 minutes does not allow the sources of us show to see it before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► airs that's fine that's you know that find have rules like that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► certainly does protect you from you know accusations that your your currying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► favor with your subjects or something but those publications obviously they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► miss out on an awful lot of stuff that they're that these you know these rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► and traditions keep them from from getting exactly and self-publishing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► said like how much stuff is going on medium these days the the world where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► you know a in the old days they they could they could take a stance like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► and the only people who can really get a story out we're the ones who owned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► printing press and had you know million or two million circulation newspaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► ah you don't need that anymore right so anybody can anybody can handle two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► three million people reading their site if they publish it on wordpress or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► medium or something like that and so they don't control you know they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► control the means of distribution anymore and they're sort of holding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► LOL you know get me to the fainting couch they let the subject pre-approved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► the story it is this is you know I've got the vapors somebody get the smelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► yes fascinating dave winer actually wrote a good essay about this many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► of these same points and and i totally agree I mean listen I went to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► core unquote professional journalism school I mean that's what my undergrad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► college was and i don't care i think it's great that that people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► self-publish now there's there's certain things that I won't do because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► the job i have but that's fine i'd you know as a I think the best thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► do is be very clear about what happened and what didn't happen it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► that's what they did here so i right I feel I've and I a dave winer has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► thinking about these things since the invention of the web in the nineties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► he's a really adding is really interesting perspective on this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► and I think it is to make a long story short I think that institutional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► journalism the capital j journalism like you said like going to actual journalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► school and working at it at a long-standing you know traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► publication they've made things more complicated than it really is they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► set up this this like a written and or unwritten list of rules of how it's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► whereas the truth of it is it lowercase J journalism that anybody can can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► conduct is to me it's fundamentally about getting the truth out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► whether it's true facts or whether it's like in a lot of my writing truly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► believe and think my opinion my honest opinion about how things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► that's what it's all about and that's it and so part of the truth could be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► writing a disclaimer that says the subject of this story had the following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► demands and that's the truth the truth is we had this arrangement and now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► yeah let's be let's be honest like the people with all the rules get stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► wrong all the time too so exactly it's not like they lead to perfection right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► and you know and like I love the New York Times New York Times is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► favorite newspapers are it is my favourite newspaper and its source that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► i read i read something in the new york times L every single day but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► and they they exemplify that sort of traditional journalism and they've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► some absolutely terrible things in the last few decades you know with the judy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► miller her reporting on the lead up to the Iraq war and it was the guy they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► the serial fabulous know Jason hmm well whatever his name is GN you know Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► Bourne now it was a jys on2 alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► Jaison Blair yeah Jayson Blair so they had a reporter on the staff who it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► located news reports I you know again those rules are not a protection against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► things like that going wrong and fundamentally in both of those cases the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► problem is that it wasn't the truth that was coming out you know what judy miller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► was reporting from our sources in Iraq was not the truth and that led to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► disasters you know circumstances and the Jayson Blair stuff it didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► leave any kind of disaster like the iraq war but the whole problem is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► greatly diluted the credibility of if it's printed in The New York Times it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► true and then all those david pogue reviews i misspoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► well he's I don't see his stuff anymore I don't it occurred i was just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► to somebody about that that I know he's still doing this thing at yahoo i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► saw him recently 20 i saw in New York when I was getting the my ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4181">TS</a>]
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01:09:58 ◼ ► don't know why i don't know what it is there's some kind of you know like tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► memes search optimization strategy that the Yahoo people aren't doing because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4204">TS</a>]
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01:10:12 ◼ ► yeah i don't know like now that mossberg is you know not at the journal and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► writing for rico and the virgin stuff i still see mossberg reviews you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4217">TS</a>]
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01:22:40 ◼ ► recommended one to me personally can't find it here the other one to check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4960">TS</a>]
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01:22:53 ◼ ► battery and charging stuff they're the ones who i also have a 4-port USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► charger which I kit which I travel with now so I can do want to bring any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► Apple charging bricks I just bring this and plug in my macbook iPhone Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► watch and can charge something else at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► all right i'll take a look at the anchor ones but every mark over recommended one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► to me that he bought at $MONEY at amazon for 24 bucks and it has built-in cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► and I'm a built-in cable fan so you don't you know it's just one thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► put your pocket and the son-of-a-bitchin thing broke i do hadn't even gotten past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► the point where I was just testing how you know like how quickly and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► know how just testing a whole bunch of different these battery packs on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► phone every time I let my phone go down I don't use it like three times and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► never even taken it out of the house so it wasn't like it it you know is dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► or anything like that it's just the Lightning port on it just stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► working so i think there's a sort of you get what you pay for aspect in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► i also found it curious that Marco of all people was the one who recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► I don't remember I don't remember the name of the company was we are here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► is it's underneath the pilots should on my desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► haha i hate to throw the company under the bus but it's a volt ready VLT re ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► Y and if you go to amazon and look at the Volt ready you'll see what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► about these integrated cables and they're super super thin the cables i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► mean it's it's so much thinner than the Lightning port itself and I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► don't think that's probably why I broke i think you need like a good thick cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► have you installed a new iOS 9.3 yet no I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► I haven't either i'm not i'm not in the beta cycle what's what's different about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► the-the-the like fake sherlocked flux or whatever that thing is called efflux so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► you can get the warmer colors at nighttime so it's easier on your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► interesting and there were all those new features for education like the multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► user mode and that kind of stuff what you assume is going to be part of iOS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► yeah so everyone can know but it's still it's still just a beta right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► yes yeah yeah I thought maybe I really out to lunch now I'm kind of done I I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► do the beta's of the major new OS over the summer but that's mainly because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► know you know my phone two-year-old I'm getting a new phone anyway so if it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► belly-up and it's usually there's like major major features I want to get get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► ahold of them but for stuff like the minor ones i usually don't do the beta's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► have you uh have you been using the apple TV a lot everyday everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► have you used the game controller yet yeah I have the game controller uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► don't use it very frequently because I just I just don't play video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► yeah i'm not one to two hopefully play games on and I used that the first day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► had it and then I haven't used it since the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► yeah but that's really just me it's not like that i couldn't find some game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► that like I found a couple games i really like but I just never occurred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► yeah me neither i thought i would though I i thought so too i think they have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► the things like if i time-traveled back and talked to my like 10 11 12 year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► I think that I would have lots of good news to tell young John Gruber and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► think he would be very happy about his future but i think the of all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► he'd be most surprised by is that I would tell them that I you you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► to grow up and have the financial ability and the flexibility in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► daily schedule to own and play any video game you want for as long as you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► practically speaking and you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► yeah I think that pretty much I think that it my like 12 year old self would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► instantly suspect that whoever this guy who does kind of look like me and it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► was credibly well cast to play the person who's going to prank me and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► me that it's me when I'm 42 is obviously full of shit because there's no chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► that if i could spend 4-5 hours every night playing cool video games that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► wouldn't be doing it i downloaded one for the Apple watch which you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► was another one of those things where they were like oh watch os/2 is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► be you know it's gonna be really helpful for games because they'll be able to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► directly on the watch and also be able to use the digital crown as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► controlling mechanism and now not fun one of the games was like that almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► like a card game type thing and it was just too too weird and the other one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► like pong type thing and it was just so jerky that I saw that one is losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► because I either got the same one or i downloaded a similar one and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► maybe there might be a month a bunch because if all you have is the crown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► pong is very obvious concept and it was terrible it was absolutely terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► yeah i did not enjoy that as as as we head into the new Apple watch season and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► i suspect that they're going to announce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► you know I just event that they're supposedly having in march i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► and as we you know what do we think of Apple watch I i have to write this piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► i do because i have a lot of thoughts on it but the bottom line i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► it's very clear in hindsight that they should not have had any apps at all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► I mean maybe eventually it will be adapt platform but it's clearly not ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► it yet and slow apps is way worse than no apps in my opinion and to me even now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► even you know with watch os/2 and and everything it's also still two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► incredibly inconsistent where if i go to like a weather app on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► sometimes it will just spin and spin and spin until the screen goes off and if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► go to the exact same what app like dark sky or something in take my phone out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► my pocket and go to dark sky it works instantly and as all you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► data I want you know the information about the weather that I was looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► and so what it doesn't take long to be psychologically conditioned to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► you don't trust that it's even going to work at all on the watch it doesn't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► you very long at all that you just instinctively go for the app on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► phone totally especially with that this s success phones being so fast and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► the 3d touch shortcuts like it's now you know when the watch launched to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► was really helpful to be able to quickly access something without reaching in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► pocket and taking out this giant phone but now the phone is so fast that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► the touch ID a unlock is so fast that it actually is faster now again to take my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► phone out than to try to get anything done on the watch right it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► just and that doesn't mean that you know that the watch as a whole is a failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► but I feel like what the this first watch was good and interesting for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► just the ambien stuff you know the tracking the health you know tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► your stuff doing a workout and whatever you configure to be shown at a glance on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► your you know without even do anything is you know and that's enough that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► enough to make it a product i think that the idea that they had to make had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► have apps and the first one was wrong and I think it's kind of funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► famously had no apps on the first iphone and it turns out that the phone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► absolutely it you know probably the best platform for quote unquote apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► mankind has ever created it's like the pinnacle of apps as the central premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► of how you're going to use advice didn't even have it for so if the if the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► can get away without it at first I don't see why the watch couldn't have and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► think in hindsight the watch should have yeah i wrote kind of a whoever was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► 7 13 view about a month ago now and that was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► similarly might my high-level conclusion was i still use it everyday and i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► really like it a lot but i haven't i'm not using it for any new things than i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► was at the beginning so basically using it for the same things I did when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► started so in that way it felt stalled in the sense that we were promised this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► kind of unlimited platform and no one's really taking advantage of it whereas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► reality like I'm very happy with the things that it does well the fitness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► tracking the you know so again I'm always surprised how useful it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► have the time in front of me especially with my phone now being so unwieldy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► you know in a few very other basic things so i'm joined on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► I've enjoyed that from other people too i know marco was saying on his podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► either the last episode of the last one I wasn't too worried he's like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► Christmas got a mechanical watch because he's you know . he never watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► entire life but just the convenience of having the time on your wrist it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► yeah all of us like me have been watching my life as I come on with fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► that you have to be told those I know I i had a while you know I had I was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► kid with the nerd watching school with the calculator Cassie or whatever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► honestly like the temperatures cool to have yeah that's the one thing when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► wear my traditional watch my regular watch the one thing that I miss every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► single day is that I expect to be able to look at my wrist and see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► yeah and every time it it's always it adding it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► it's uncanny how I could go days without wearing my Apple watch and I still as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► i'm heading out the door and deciding which code to put on a look at my wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► and I'm like oh and it's not gonna help ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► ru ru apple picking with it yeah i do when i have it on an apple pie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► that's another thing too is because the supermarket where we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► there's a whole foods and they take Apple pay and i instantly every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► time I see whether i'm wearing my Apple watch or not Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► I put my wrist up to the key haha nice yeah i do I mean almost every day I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► that so it is I find and I thought so I thought it would be true back in May [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► when i first got it and it turns out it's very true it is terrific in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► East Coast winter to have an apple pay thing that you don't have to fish out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► your pocket when you're wearing a coat and layers of clothing and stuff gloves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► to write and actually you can go straight through the sleeve you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► even need to roll up your sleeve you just double click on the button it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► that NFC will go right through your shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► now it is interesting i'll take it one thing too is I never use the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► click on that contact thing to contact people only by accident right and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► really feel like in hindsight they got that wrong like single-click should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► an Apple pay and double-click should have been jump to contact shortcut at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► least for me personally because when i do want to contact somebody like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► want to text my son i'll do it via serie I'll long-press the other thing and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► say text Jonas whatever it is I want to text him because you have to dictate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► the text anyway so why not just initiate the contact from the voice to it see I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► assume they pry thought people would be doing the drawings and the touch stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► more than they do like I haven't done that stuff in months now only when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► yeah right in hindsight is the land is just one of those things where and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► kind of it makes me a little worried you know it's a worrisome product in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► ways about Apple because it makes me wonder what what made them think well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► they were using it themselves that this would be useful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► it just seems to me that if they spent as much time thinking about it is i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► in the first six months while i wore it why didn't they come to the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► conclusions i did like it mean that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► the whole idea was a great idea I was very intrigued by it you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► idea that you would have these favorite people and one touch away from just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► sending you know your heartbeat or whatever fabulous idea but then I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► like once you actually have it on your wrist and you can do it it turns out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► doesn't doesn't really stick i think that it's going to be some of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► interesting things are going to be what they change based on what they have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► learned from you know millions of people using this thing and that's the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► I think we've already seen a realizing that the sport is kind of the is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► main watch so yeah there's more colors now we'll see what else changes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► that but well I said the software changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► yeah i know you said it was like the best one yeah i think it's the best one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► and I think all of the worrying that people did I think this is to me one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► the most interesting things about it is all the worrying people did that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► the common person is going to get short-changed and gets this cruddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► aluminum one and people it's only rich people who can afford a thousand-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► stainless steel one we're going to get the nice one it's actually the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► around the people who bought the $400 sport1 got the best watch I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► yeah I love mine and so I'm just super curious to see what what they change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► yeah I am too i'm I've and I don't want to do this software group has really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► gotten good at keeping a little you know not much leaks out of apple software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► these days so I think we're in for a surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► I don't think that you know who knows you mean you never know what mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► government's going to figure out but yeah I i don't know i think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► good chance that will be surprised so any guesses we have actually real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► I if I you ask me right now what do I think they're going to do I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► guess a lot of Health and sensor related improvements and this one might be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5816">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► of a mean we just wishful thinking but i really really really would like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► do something a lot smarter with where the aggregate health data is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► making health center more of a here's everything that we know about you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► thing like me its way two separated with the activities is just for the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► stuff and not you imp you know what I mean right and you know i have six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► months or well I have eight months of aggregated fitness tracking like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► what-what higher-level trends can you tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► yeah you know okay when you don't know when you work out on the weekend you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► during the week I don't know just like give me some more other than that page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► of all the Rings which is kinda cool but was cool you know the first couple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5874">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► I looked at it is nice to be able to go back and kind of brag about the day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► walked twenty seven thousand steps steps at CES but it would be great to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► get some more useful information out of that page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► yeah i think that if there's it if they're paying attention to how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► really seem to be using watching the real world is going to be a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► about quantifying you know and helping you make sense and organize your the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► data that the watch nose and like I mean the other thing too is if I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► wearing my watch but i have my my phone with me the the minimal compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► watch but the minimum tracking that the phone does should be easily combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► with the watch you know to create an overall picture of like my activity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► stuff like that and where it's been and then the other thing I think I hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► they're working on is I think that they should really work to make it smarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► about he whether it's watch faces or the glances or locate you know but something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► so that it's just smarter about showing you what you want to be looking at when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► yeah there's plenty of context that knows about you know where I'm at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► I'm doing that it could i would even trust it to shuffle the complications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► yeah based on the context you know if I met the airport show me the travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► complications if it's nighttime show me you know certain things you know and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► be kind of obnoxious to have to program the logic behind that so maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► wouldn't be able to program it but to me that would be there there's so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► context that that they could be integrating into a lot of the decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► about what they show you where there are a lot of Android watches at the CES not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► in a really noticeable way let me last year it was soda the whole watch things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► very novel and of course there was the famous apple watch knock off and get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► lot of the boots i guess had kind of Android watches but i think that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/5995">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► didn't really it wasn't like a huge thing I mean like Samsung had one but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► think they're only major change was just color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► yeah and then there was that a Fitbit yeah it looks a little like an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► watch but it like a hexagonal like that yeah corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► yeah I kind of dumped on it i looked at its fine i mean whatever fewer if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► trying to buy two-hundred-dollar thing or whatever its and you want to fit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► also does a couple other things the advantage that Fitbit has is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► can get away with an ugly ish design and quite frankly I think that their thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► is ugly it it certainly uglier in the Apple watch and yeah they can get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► with it because people in their audience is primarily looking at fitness tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► and so if your thing you're most interested in is fitness tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► therefore less than great aesthetics can you can get away with it whereas Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► its primary thing is it's supposed to be a good-looking watch yeah and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► the whole point behind this is that they want to become a more Universal device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► and get away from you know the biggest risk to Fitbit is that fitness tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► becomes a nap on a more Universal device as opposed to separate a you know thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► that you carry around the the way that calculator is now a nap on a phone or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► flashlight you know you know was carrying a little maglite around anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► all rights your camera flash so you know I can see why they would want to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► more mainstream universal more useful market but I I just don't know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► the company that has the the software and in the ecosystem that they can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► enough people using it i mean there's still this the selling a lot people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► the brand has awareness and people like it but i don't know i think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► doomed because i think that that they're not going to be able to stay far enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► ahead to to to stay ahead of the eventual good enough fitness tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► that built into other devices you know include I I'd well I think right before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► or right after they went public I did kind of a trollee post where I said if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► its long-term stock chart revealed or something like that it was for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► long-term sales chart revealed it was it was the the shipments curve of the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► yep this this is a single-purpose device that is basically become a nap on a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► general purpose is over the holidays we're at Amiens mom's house or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► I don't know something at some point during the Christmas New Year's thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► and that's when Christmas and her mom had a and LED Maglite and I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► blown away by how awesomely powerful the the flashlight is a all the faucets we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► have we have we have a bunch of them from maglite I've always been a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► their stuff because it's so well made but ours are all the old incandescent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► thing and I was like wow it's like I've somehow missed this revolution and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► need to upgrade all our flashlight so I went flashlight shopping for myself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► it's so funny how it's like maglite has all this so many slogans on a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► their smaller one so it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► yes you really do need a flashlight yes you can you can have a flashlight that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► so much better than the one on your phone and it's like if you're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► people that they if you're just reminding them that they still need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► buy a flashlight you're you're in trouble like yeah it is exactly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► mirrors exactly what the consumer camera company started saying you know five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► six years ago about yeah you don't need a two-hundred-dollar point-and-shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► camera and it's like no you don't go to any tourist location in the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► look at what people are using they're all using their phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► totally and flashlight is right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► it's like you know who knew who had said to me it's like something i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► never predicted I mean an apple obviously didn't predict because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► were a little late to the game at making it something that you didn't need a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► for but I use my phone as a flashlight probably at least once a day every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► yeah it's it's crazy to me but it's awesome right but it's you know add it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► to me in the same way i'm not saying Maglites going out of business but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► they're there they're going to go to the business that was selling little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► ten-dollar ones that you keep your desk is gone that's then it's never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► come back the only lights flash lights are going to sell her the the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► serious ones that you need you know where you really do one like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► you-know-what to studi sell flashlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► yeah and that I mean in just to bring it back to that fit i guess that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► criticism was that it wasn't going after the serious fitness market because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► doesn't have a gps right you know the marathon runners aren't using that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► model and I don't think it's gonna be enough of an Apple watch to beat apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► or even the google watches that at being a more general purpose device so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► anything else you wanna talk about this week damn I not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► huh there was you know what about what do you want to talk about I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► say there is a I as it comes and goes but it's it you know I I don't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► about finance generally but imma jump somewhat intrigued by and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► that the company is immune to it i think even if you're primarily interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► apple because of their products as I am that you still have to consider they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► like stock price and there you know quarterly financials because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► they're publicly held company and it were at this point the whole market is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► down quite frankly but Apple is down further than the market and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► trading at a ridiculously low price earnings ratio at the moment and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► brings out and bridges brings out the crazies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► I mean no I you cannot make this up I mean this guy trip Chowdhry is is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► really is hard to believe that he's not a parody that there's somebody out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► who made up the name and you know like the mac elope and it's it it's a fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► analyst who doesn't even exist in four years now he's been getting away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► this and getting quoted and he keeps saying more and more outrageous things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► and everybody just keeps quoting him that you know putting the word analyst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► in front of your name is somehow this magical credibility badge he literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► said last week called tim cook a bozo and called for him to be a not fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► he called them to be demoted back to chief operating officer amazing and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► that jon rubinstein should come back to the company and become the CEO perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► that is the other way worthy co-ceo with Fidel I guess you bring buy em all back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► and Angela Lawrence is a nitwit or something i forget what is word wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► meanwhile the apple stores are now never been more popular more successful it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► mean it's clearly through there is a lot of I wouldn't say pessimism as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► just kind of people are not quite sure if if iphone sales are going to grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► this year and I don't know maybe that doesn't matter to the average person it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► it does matter to Apple as it is a growth story around and growth certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► is important in any company and you know sure there are their cycles were things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► flatten out or maybe they decrease little and they start growing again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► it yes Apple that you know may relative to the market that's one thing but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► are companies that use stock performed great last year i believe the Amazons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► organizando amazon it seems like everybody's really really caught on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► em and I think deservedly so I mean but but just little things like the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► amazon by most you know the accounting I've seen that got 51-percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► online holiday shopping that's it an enormous number and it's sort of a magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► number two you know like fundamentally if they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► forty-nine percent of it instead of 51-percent it's you know it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► it's a rounding error and probably well within the margin of error for however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► that the outside group estimated that the numbers but 51 is you know over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► fifty percent line and that's a magic number and you can see why that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► fuel you know investor confidence in their stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► yeah so in the meantime you have you know these the this huge group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► panelists who try to guess every quarter how many phones Apple's can sell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► what the revenue and profits are going to be and and what's been happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► recently is that they've been reducing their forecasts for for iphone sales and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► for i think also forever night I don't have the the trend line in front of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► actually have access to a pretty what i thought would be an interesting chart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6537">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► like how the estimates change over time but they actually changed so little that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► it's just kind of a flatline it's not very it's not actually a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► I mean yeah this could be this could possibly be a year and by the way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► has been known for a while like I think I wrote about this in i would say july [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► or even april of last year that this coming year could be the year where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► company doesn't grow very much at all and and we'll see I mean you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► certainly does matter for some reasons but it also seems to be creating an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► opportunity for a lot of people to blow things out of context and be right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► is it silly about things there's a very interesting story here i think but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► all nuanced and in requires a you know to be let's be serious about this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► that this company the biggest company world is not going to implode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► it's like we're talking about growth stopping not that iphone is going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► it the way some of these people are talking about it is as though that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► here's a little headline the iphone slow down spells doom for apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► I mean that's an actual headline and ostensibly serious business publication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► it's ridiculous doesn't spell doom but it certainly is interesting and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► it's almost hit it if you're realistic about it you have to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► that just back-of-the-envelope math would suggest that the basic story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► off actually very easy iphone sales were suppressed for a at least a year or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► it seems because consumers decided they liked bigger phones and the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► didn't have a big phone and it takes apple at least at least two years to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► make a change like that because so much you know because of their we only do one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► major new design year and we bank you know bet the bank on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► they're stuck with it for two years and when the 6 and 6s came out for the 6 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► 6 plus came out last year there was a it satisfy the demand but be it was pent-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► because a lot of people have waited because they were in there were rumors I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► mean everybody know anybody who like us knows casual people who are like hey is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► it true that the Apple is going to come with a bigger phone was like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► know India give your standard i don't know but i certainly seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► that's all . signs point to and they were like cool i'm going to get that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► there waited for it and then they did and they had unbelievable sales i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► that that sales so far from what we know that the 6s and 6s plus army are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► matching that but they the question is are they going to grow even further and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► they may not but the thing that's also very obvious is at this point it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► getting to the point where they're running out of people on the planet who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► can afford iphones right which there may be actually gonna help out with the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► know second hand-me-down subscription phones around this year but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► we'll see at this point though they really and they're reaching the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6715">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► where I really think that to grow it has to be at the lower end by widening the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► number of phones you know lower-cost phones are being sold their iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► because that I and i really do think they're at the point where it they there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► aren't any there just aren't untap people left the other a few google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► employees with Nexus phones and then that's about it you know and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► where other products come into play to like the watch for the apple TV but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► those are both so early in their life cycle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► there's you know even even Apple music which we calculated is on a billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► dollar revenue run rate like billion dollars is not that much to apple know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► how many how many watches do we think they sold the last time I ran after last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► quarter my number was around five million just based on kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► changes in that other products thing could be a little more than that but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► Christmas quarter is probably going to be you know on another level so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► we'll know in a few weeks I mean it just making up a completely random number i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► would guess that they probably moved like 5 to 10 million last quarter alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► but who knows I have an idea right and each one of those that eat it did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► average selling prices easily guessed at around five hundred dollars because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► overwhelmingly most of them are Sport and Sport ones with four hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► and then you know just enough of those still want would raise it up to around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► 500 so if they said every million that they sell is five hundred dollars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► so basically a billion for every 2 million phones their watches don't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► so they've you know they've built in your one a multi-billion dollar business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► which is pretty good and I think it's about helping out yeah but if your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► it's not going to really drive much growth especially if you have to offset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► you know the ipad declining and you know the mac is the mac has been up but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6834">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► sometimes falls and that sort of stuff so yeah my guess is that the ipad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► stabilized i think that the ipad is going to settle in as a nine to 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► million of quarter device in the same way that the mac has long been a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► very stable product where but it but it actually grown and then very nice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► conservative way where it in the old days they don't like 10-15 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► that it was like a million max a quarter was the magic number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► good quarters were over a million and bad quarters were under a million and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► it's slowly but steadily grown to the point our they're doing like three four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► four and a half million maxik order more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► is it more now yeah that's right well I'm gonna pull out my my spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► here so give me 10 seconds but let's see last quarter was a 5.7 there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► behind the time so that grown past alive because i believe a record right all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► time record you know and I just say I i noticed though I noticed just the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► day I saw a guy in a starbucks and he was working on an old remember the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► macbooks remember the ones are you need to get white or black and he was working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► on one of those it was in beautiful shape it was absolutely it really was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► wasn't totally clean and it had the screen look great and he was working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► like I couldn't tell which app is either accelerate numbers is clearly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► spreadsheet doing work on it and it look around inside had no surprise if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► know that he's still using it but that's what normal people do is they buy a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► they buy a back book or laptop and they use it until it breaks and if they this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► is the 2009 imac we're using so trying out right now right and I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► ipad you know is my theory on the ipad is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► it's sold in these 20 million a quarter numbers because it was this sensational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6955">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► new thing that met Adam and that no product never met before and lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► people decided hey I could use one of those and they weren't replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► anything they were adding it to their life and so it was way out of proportion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► what could be expected in a normal quarter and that now it's settled in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► it's settled in i think roughly like somewhere around two times the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► Max they sell yeah and that that had a natural number of iPads to be sold a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► quarter now na i just bought an ipad to ebay just to use the screen so the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► and again I don't think people get rid of them until they break now I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► stop using my original iPad because it was still on i think ios5 and yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► app we were using to watch TV on needed ios7 I think so got a ipad 2 and now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► so i don't know i think it's i think that this the the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7016">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► hyperventilating over this is ridiculous i do think it's interesting it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► interesting to say what what does Apple do now that the ipod iphone has reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► peak iphone right and much like you know when when they messed something small up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► with the product people love to jump on it so you know imagine the whole company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► collapsing or you know not collapsing but actually just not growing like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► crazy for a few quarters in a row but yeah what do they do it I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► they've they've done a few things and we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► well and i think i think in terms of anybody's looking for growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► I I don't see how the watch could have done better in the first year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► honestly I've given the numbers it's gotten I think that they've sold outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► the number III outside how well it deserves to assault like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► it's that great of a one-point product but it's actually remarkable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► they're selling as many millions of them as it seems like they are and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7075">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► that's great and I think it's only going to get better and they do really read in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► the last few years they've really with every product since the ipad they do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► amazing job in the first two or three years of greatly improving the product i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► mean the ipad went from the ipad to the ipad 2 which is way thinner then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► was the ipad 3 which was weird because it went right now but it got thicker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► heavier which was a weird sort of now you have this awesome retina screen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► it's also thicker and heavier and then ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► from that point onward it's just gotten crazily thinner and faster and lighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► and so I expect the exact same trajectory with the watch with a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► yeah I'm excited I've I like mine a lot more than I thought I would so but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► still a long way to get between now and you know hundred million units a year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► the other the left one last thing I thought from CES was at the and it sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:57 ◼ ► of ties into the what is Apple do now and it sort of ties into my thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7137">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► maybe they shouldn't have done apps on the watch was a thing with dieter bohn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► for the verge had an article about Tyson which is Samsung's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► not android their own homegrown operating system and that maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► going to do okay even though it never it you know nobody there's no app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► developers you know targeting Tizen and that sort of the problem that windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► exemplifies is that at fast you know usually there's just one dominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► platform that that developers write for any any old days it used to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► Windows then it became on the desktop then it became the web and nowadays it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► you know it's split people still developed for the web but on mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► people developed for iOS and they develop for android and if you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► to be the third you're out of luck because there's just too much task so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► windows doesn't really get apps and Tyson you know get certainly gets less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► than Windows but that maybe you know day guess what they when he was writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7195">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► samsung watches that are running Tizen and it occurs to me that as we move past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► the phone and get into these other devices platforms going forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► operating systems apps made-up need to be a part of that like and having your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► own operating system that you inside your company completely control and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► can have your engineers optimize it you know if what you really want to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► is low energy consumption well you can make that the highest priority because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► you have your own operating system or if you want to do like what Apple's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► with metal and make this you know incredibly custom and high-performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:38 ◼ ► graphics pipeline you can do that and you can bake that into the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7238">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► system at whatever point where it makes the most sense for your desires because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► you control the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► I just think that a lot of these things going forward that are going to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► computerized they don't need apps and therefore it doesn't matter if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► if Samsung can do a good watch and it runs Tizen but there's no third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7256">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► apps for it that may not matter at all and where I'm going with this is to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► the car might be the same thing or what you want out of your computerized car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► nothing to do with third-party apps right or or your I mean to Tizen is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► being used i believe in many of their televisions as well as the new fridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► with a tablet built into it and a bunch of this stuff and you know you can laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► but if every if every gadget is eventually going to have a screen on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► you know your washing machine or something and the value of the apps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► logic is mostly running in the cloud and and what you're interacting with is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► you know either a notification or a you notice the button that basically says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► run this this app in the background or respond to a notification or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:47 ◼ ► then absolutely it doesn't you don't really need all the UI development or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7307">TS</a>]
02:01:53 ◼ ► you know a separate app running on the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7313">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► did you see the the summon feature for the testicles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7316">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► you know I i feel dumb because i actually had heard about that before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► I didn't realize it hadn't been announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:11 ◼ ► cool and that's the type of stuff that I think that's this is the revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7331">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► that's coming to the car industry and it has nothing to do with apps right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:19 ◼ ► the fact that you can't get apps for your test what does not change anybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7339">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► desire to buy a Tesla at all in either direction whether you didn't want one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► before you do the fact that it's not an app platform is irrelevant it's the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► abs are just the wrong concept for the car they really are i mean i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► there's certain things like maybe you would want something app like for music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:42 ◼ ► but it doesn't have to be apps you just want to get music in your car and yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7362">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► there's something feature is really cool it's like a you can you tell yours Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► that you're ready to go to work and the Tesla will like open the garage door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► get outside and be right there at the curb ready for you to get in and drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7376">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► and when you get home you can just get out of the Tesla in front of your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:07 ◼ ► and go in the front door and the Tesla will go through the the nit picky detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7387">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► of carefully driving itself into your garage and like the crazy long-term said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► thing they said was like a few if you're in la la your car will drive from New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► York and come pick you up right that's the absolute yeah that you have right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► now it's like limited to very very near proximity around your house or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► but that that you know that they've already got in place you know plans in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► place where you'll be able to do it from any distance where there's continuous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► land access so you know you can't make your car magically get itself to Hawaii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:43 ◼ ► yeah but you can go LA to New York yeah I i love this I you know I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7423">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► the the the concept of of a car and of transport is really changing a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► yeah i mean that's it was funny because CES was literally the week before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7437">TS</a>]
02:04:04 ◼ ► biggest car show in the world but it's there that a lot of these companies were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► making their big announcements because they're all trying to position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► themselves as technology companies now and you know something similar to what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► love about Tesla is just thick these ideas are so wacky but then they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► there there like a self-driving mode i don't think anyone the week before was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► like I wonder when my test is going to be able to drive itself and then Elon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► Musk is like here it is boom and I think that even have to dial it back now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► because it was like a little too crazy but while there I love it I i did i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► mention this on the show i figured if i did and I've such terrible podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► amnesia but that I would I got to drive in a self-driving mercedes-benz cool is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► mercedes flew a bunch of not a bunch of small number of writers out and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7496">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► know why they picked me but I didn't question it just works to go Sunnydale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:07 ◼ ► sunnyvale know go somewhere out there somewhere out in our heads that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7507">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► investors can down the street from yahoo and got to ride in a self-driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► s-class we went out on the highway and the card drove did everything it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► know it was amazing and it works it absolutely works and it's not perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► yet obviously but and it but if anything all the imperfections are on the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► being conservative it is it's very heavy breaker it breaks very very aggressively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► we were heading up like an on-ramp to get onto a highway in terms of go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:41 ◼ ► high-speed driving and we were it was later in the afternoon and we're heading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7541">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► right into the Sun you know and and basically just talking to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:49 ◼ ► engineers all of the things that make driving hard for humans are the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7549">TS</a>]
02:05:52 ◼ ► same thing that make self-driving hard if you have trouble seeing the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7552">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► on the car have trouble seeing as well and it was really a lot of glare and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7556">TS</a>]
02:06:00 ◼ ► braked going up the ramp because the glare was so bad that it couldn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7560">TS</a>]
02:06:04 ◼ ► even see it was like that the status indicator was just like can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7564">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► therefore it's going to stop and it was you know is an unnatural thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:12 ◼ ► human wouldn't have done and a couple of other times it broke a little bit too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7572">TS</a>]
02:06:17 ◼ ► aggressively but for the most part I think you could easily if you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7577">TS</a>]
02:06:20 ◼ ► tell somebody I think you could and blindfolded them i think that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7580">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► easily the cars they already have today could easily fool somebody in thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:31 ◼ ► that's great yeah I'm that's gonna be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7591">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► so one of the questions I asked them was do they anticipate and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► are there obviously solving their solving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:42 ◼ ► so you know really really fascinating AI engineering problems hardware/software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7602">TS</a>]
02:06:46 ◼ ► sensors the the braking systems and the software of course to drive all this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7606">TS</a>]
02:06:51 ◼ ► they're also solving legislative and regulatory problems at the same time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7611">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► do they entered like right now you can buy said you i could go buy a Mercedes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7616">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► spent every penny Ben's i drive off the lot i can instantly go and it greatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:04 ◼ ► exceed any speed limit in the United States at my own discretion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7624">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► well I have that ability in a self-driving car and I was told quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:13 ◼ ► quite bluntly know there's almost no chance that would be legal for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7633">TS</a>]
02:07:18 ◼ ► make a self-driving car that will exceed speed limits which is kind of weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7638">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► it's going to drive the sort of libertarian mindset people i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:26 ◼ ► little nutty but their explanation was but why do you want to drive faster now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7646">TS</a>]
02:07:30 ◼ ► because you want to get you know you're bored you know and if you're if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7650">TS</a>]
02:07:34 ◼ ► not paying attention to the road if you're just reading or watching TV or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7654">TS</a>]
02:07:39 ◼ ► you're not going to care that it takes five minutes longer totally a i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7659">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► also saw something similar with the Tesla thing where it can its program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► that it could maybe go i think five miles over the limit or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:54 ◼ ► based on where it is not sure I may be making that I'll but I i thought i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7674">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► something about that and then of course if you if you need to go faster there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► the flying car that they had at CES to the scary quadcopter with the person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:10 ◼ ► did you see that no I did not oh yeah that's the was like a human-sized drone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7690">TS</a>]
02:08:15 ◼ ► so great so we got that to look forward to that the one thing talking to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7695">TS</a>]
02:08:21 ◼ ► Mercedes as they were very the you know it's a they are very confident in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7701">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► ability and that they're going to have world-class self-driving cars i'm anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► wrote in one that already was real the real deal but they're talking date they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:38 ◼ ► divide this the stages of self-driving cars in like four levels and like level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7718">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► one is like the stuff that we already have you can get on the market today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:46 ◼ ► where you can like set your car to maintain distance from the car in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:51 ◼ ► and that Tesla has like a feature would net you know you can turn on the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7731">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► and it'll it'll do the highway driving for you and that but part of stage one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7734">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► is that stage 1 means you still have a human driver who's who is expected to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► able to take over the control of the car in an instant like hands ready to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:11 ◼ ► over at all times and that's where the industry is today in terms of what's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7751">TS</a>]
02:09:16 ◼ ► the market and that they were absolutely it was I guess they considered almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7756">TS</a>]
02:09:20 ◼ ► seemingly this wasn't what they said but I could read between the lines it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7760">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► like they were angry and it was like a setback to the industry that when Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:29 ◼ ► first made this feature available that jackasses were setting up GoPros and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7769">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► showing themselves like reading the newspaper father car drove there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► guy who got in the backseat of his Tesla while it was on like a highway in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:42 ◼ ► California and that it's so that's not that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7782">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► you're not supposed to do that and it somebody's going to do that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:50 ◼ ► disaster you know they're going to have a catastrophic accident because of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7790">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► and it's going to be you know the fear is it's going to make people say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:58 ◼ ► should ban self-driving cars before they even get a chance to to to do it but who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7798">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► what kind of yeah and it really is funny it's like so it's just like some random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:11 ◼ ► yahoo with a with a Tesla is going to ruin this for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7811">TS</a>]
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02:10:20 ◼ ► people who were very surprised by what they were recording but yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzstlXE/7820">TS</a>]
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