The Talk Show

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00:00:19 ◼   ► well just like last year we have a cavalcade of special guests for this [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► episode winding up they will come on in a series of of entrances last year we [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► end up going over time and and John syracuse it did not make it onto the [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► show so we will [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► he's lined up he's ready to go we'll try to get him on we've also got a we've [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► also got Ben Thompson and Marco Arment lined up right now though it's just me [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► and guy English yeah i'm a huge fan of bender man he is he's amazing [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► am I allowed to talk and my wife Amy groupers here to talk about star wars [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► the force awakens now they're yeah I don't know what's wrong with people [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► there are so many people who have already been like seven podcast talking [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► about this thing have you guy have you talked about this on a podcast yet i [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► have not know that was my second thank you i guess that no i haven't actually a [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► i wanted to because it turns out like this movie i'm so excited to talk about [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► it because you know everybody is so anti spoiler so I've just really been ranting [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► at my family about so I would i but there is one thing right like don't [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► spoil it on Twitter but I mean if you're gonna listen to a podcast you know right [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► so let's just get out of the way though that this podcast is going to be [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► incredibly spoiler tastic yeah so if you haven't seen it yet and you don't want [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► it spoiled it hit pause in your podcast player go down to your local multiplex [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► see the movie and then when you come out hit it on pause and honestly get your IQ [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► tested because it's called the star worst christmas spectacular and if [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► you're not expecting spoilers you might be stupid [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► so first things first here's my question free for both of you [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► I don't know who wants to answer first but did you like the movie [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► no yume no I did maybe you didn't like the movie [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► no I had had had some real problems i know i like yeah that's right i have [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► talked to you about how i feel bad for looking made you said yeah yeah like I [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► was loving it [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► I was absolutely loving it and I was like wow I'm actually gonna go see this [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► again tomorrow [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► like I was super super into it but I had no idea what was gonna happen and i had [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► given it absolutely no thought was going to happen and then when it happened I [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► got so sad that i cried in the movie theater [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► yeah but how did you like this i thought it was a good film [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► I left it I mean locate this you know to some flaws as a movie but I as a modern [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► myth be told i love it and i think it's great i loved i don't think that outcome [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► that you're talking about could have gotten any of the way I think it had to [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► happen [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► oh I didn't expect that to happen since 1983 need to be on like that you can get [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► angry so it took us a space so to be clear let's just get it over with what [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► we're talking about is when Han Solo died and it was a turning turning point [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► for Amy in the mood [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► sure can you guys have drinks and maybe . maybe don't have a drink i don't know [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► but i don't i don't know you know what I i got day drunk the next day because I [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► woke up I was like why am I so sad and then I remembered why i was so sad and [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► it was terrible [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► oh that's beautiful i was so sad and everybody like everybody around me was [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► so excited and like Jonas was loving the movie and Jonas is stupid he turned to [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► me he's like he's not really dead and i was like no way he's so dead like he got [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► stabbed and then he fell off a dangerous catwalk and then he got blown up they [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► like itchy and scratchy voted [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► nobody like yeah I think you could your dad like they did not leave any avenues [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► open for him to not be dead lightsaber through the chest fell off a catwalk [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► into what looked like some kind of fiery pit so it was both fall and some kind of [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► finally finally actor driven by the power of the Sun right which then [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► explode loaded highlight I don't stop with these dangerous catwalks why don't [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► they have railings so much he would still be dead Amy would still be dead i [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► don't i don't know they could patch him up maybe like if you have fallen [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► I really love your devotion to Anna Salai think that's awesome [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► I help i wanted to be Hansel growing up and I I'd love the way he went out okay [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► oh hello the way he when I was so stupid that stupid would see kid that was [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► horrible and his kid was horrible like it made me so mad that he okayed was so [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► horrible and we'll see such a big gonna be and then he gets to kill Han Solo [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► like that's and I wasn't even invested in this you didn't care about him and [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► solo shot and killed him and solo and soul elected to be killed his choice [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► back in color n is such a weenie he didn't move off the bridge like he might [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► eat he stood his ground and three walked towards him [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► so you get bacon if he chose to like if he loves this kids so much he just chose [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► to saddle him with having killed his father [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► that makes no sense no I think he thought I think that later told him if [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► you see our son bring him home so he's not home and handle is dead so he did [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► you think she well I think it had sold us the kind of guy that he's I think [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► he's disappointedly for the last time and he's he's going to try to make sure [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► that kid gets on [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► how he's dead I'm so angry I know you didn't know exactly how the conversation [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► was gonna go but at the end it was like well you can either cut me down in anger [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► like me what I'm gonna pull up my blaster and try to shoot you in the face [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► can't do that i can run away can't do that or you know we can go with this [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► thing where you kill me and I help you and then they're at least there's like a [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► glimmer of light in him still like I really ate my dad he's such a jerk but [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► he totally help me turn to the darkside advice I don't I can't really make a [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► rational argument for it because i have never been there but like i said if he [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► turns like even if then he becomes good i hope we never see his dumb ass again i [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► hate him but even if he turns he's saddled with having killed his father [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► like how do you go home to your mother and say like hey I'm done with this dark [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► side crab but sorry I killed dad like that's not helping [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► this isn't helping like it's not helping I don't think it does i don't think it [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► does it made no sense it made absolutely no sense and who like I was loving this [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► movie and I was like JJ Abrams like you could tell he's fan and he totally got [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► it and I felt like there are a whole bunch of like corny like Star Wars type [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► jokes for the corny but they're funny and then he killed Han Solo and I turned [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► I was like who the fuck does he think he is killing time so like you don't get to [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► just get this and then kill my childhood hero [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► I was so mad oh I'm i'm getting at again it's ok you can but let's back I could [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► like it I can really take it ok it that you i know i know but don't care of [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► yellow it's it it's an interesting decision know and and I feel like and [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► I've in it if there's a spoiler that I knew going into the movie that colored [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► my viewing of it the first time it's it's an old spoiler it's it's from [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► knowing from when I was a kid in 1983 that in in interviews about return of [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► the jedi that Harrison Ford [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► publicly said that he had petitioned George Lucas to have Han Solo killed off [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► and that he he argued that it would give the movie i think he called it like [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► gravity or something wait but you know that it would go with it would give like [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► a bittersweet feeling to the end of the movie instead of everybody you know [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► kumbaya you know singing with the Ewoks that it would be like yeah we you know [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► we beat them and we killed the Emperor but you know Han Solo's dead and that he [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► you know and then it you know it's kind of ugly stuff but he did that he [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► publicly said that he you know that that he thinks George Lucas didn't want to do [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► that because it would sell fewer toys that you wouldn't sell a lot of dead han [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► solo action figures it's just like hothead young kid just getting Fame talk [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► you know what I mean like don't know what is Han Solo like there's so much [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► and like he died I don't let you know if he's asked if you just say would you [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► know I don't think so but I'd really do think that like if if Harrison Ford had [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► said to you know JJ Abrams in the Disney people than the Lucasfilm people i I'm [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► in it [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► I I you know sign me up for three movies i'll be in all 3i I think that they [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► would have you know and i think they're not stupid i think they know everybody [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► loves Han Solo I think they would have put him in all three [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► I think the fact that he got killed is the fact that it's largely colored they [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► wrote the story to put that in the story because Harrison Ford said alright I'll [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► do one and you gotta give me a lot of money and I think it's kind of it's an [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► interesting thing that it's like the actors decision to to color the Ark of [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► the whole story [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► Amy I don't really care what Harrison Ford one you've taken on this [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► responsibility and apparently everyone knew that he was going to die i did not [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► know he was going to die I remember that like in the eighties that he nobody was [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► all swagger II and like all that you know they should kill me or whatever and [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► I don't want to do it anymore but they all said that they all came back I just [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► i'll never see another JJ Abrams movie again he killed on solo and I globes are [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► in the movie I screamed why didn't they kill Chewbacca because I felt like then [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► you could have a two-backer you cannot [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► shoot you can't shoot too but just so seriously you're fine with Han Solo but [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► Shabaka crosses your line [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► oh my no no no no what I'm saying is Chewbacca got shot early [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► well I wish you wouldn't and I was like whoa that like the stakes are raised to [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► this point like I just think on the table if they would have killed him at [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► the shoulder killed like a a character and then he could have had the hey I [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► killed major star wars character and gotten that but not really somebody i [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► mean i'd be like Chewbacca but I wouldn't be heartbroken I wouldn't bday [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► drunk the next day but I will also say it's only just just to be clear and put [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► this on the public record we we went to see the movie on opening night which was [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► thursday night and we already had tickets for a saturday matinee so we [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► didn't go back the next day but because i was the school day you know I thought [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► it was enough that we kept the kid up 21 am watching the movie but then saturday [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► afternoon we had already bought tickets three tickets a media did not attend she [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► would not she would not see you again I couldn't watch it again i couldn't i [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► really couldn't watch again like and jon was like come on i was like i'm just too [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► sad i'm not ready [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► like I think maybe in a week or 2i might be able to go see and i would like to [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► see it again but I'm worried that it'll break my heart again [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► i mean i-i couldn't take it i really couldn't take it i love that it affected [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► you that he didn't really do that mean I don't want you to be a sad obviously you [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► know that don't need to be unhappy but the fact that it hit you is kind of why [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► they did it right [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► it's the yeah but I felt like okay like this story is kind of a tangent but when [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► i was little you know the wizard of oz used to come on once a year and [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► everybody would watch it like it'd be a big event because you know you can watch [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► when i was little you can watch movies over and over again so you like to see [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► the Wizard of Oz like once a year at Easter they would show it on TV and was [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► a big deal and I just remember like 10 15 members of my family were watching it [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► and I'm like four years old and I really liked the bad witch [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► oh they're my best of wizard of oz spoiler so if you're sensitive [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► oh yeah man but when she met like when the war when she melts everybody in my [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► family was like yeah you know ding dong the witch is dead and i really loved her [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► and I started to cry and then they all kind of was they were laughing at me for [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► crying and I was like I hate you like my mother still reenact the scene like I [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► was like I hate you all your old dump dump dump and I ran away like I was so [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► mad that they were happy that she died and that's how I felt when Han Solo died [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► like people were still in like after the movie people were clapping and screaming [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► and he's like you assholes on solos that like I couldn't even enjoy it and I [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► couldn't believe anyone liked it and that no one else was a sad as I was like [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► I really had to like hang my head I was visibly crying she really was she was [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► very upset but i would i would argue with you said guy that it it just shows [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► that it was it was effective as a as a you know a death that actually meant [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► yeah as so I mean there's two things two things that I like and then there's [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► things that i think would good like you don't know I got wind of well-rendered [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► art yeah let's [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► I can be offended by something that I feel as well rendered art or I could be [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► hurt by it emotionally and I can be incredibly said that you know on solo [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► killed that doesn't mean that I don't think it's an effective piece you know [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► like so you know you're right but I'm like a Neanderthal I'm capable one [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► emotion know i love it i love don't but division of the visceral pneus is like [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► exactly why they did it [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► it's for that reaction like it everybody had I had that was like I saw coming a [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► mile away and I was like oh god this is the second time i saw the movie at the [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► woman sitting next me screamed and then it was incredibly destroyed for the rest [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► of the movie like almost distractingly so like I wish you'd gotten her number [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► I'd like to go see it with her [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► I know yeah i was like i wanted to remind me for friend of mine [TS]

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00:17:43 ◼   ► alright let's start at the beginning [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► here's the thing i went in and i couldn't shut up about it [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► okay well this was the first Star Wars movie that wasn't from 22 yeah let's [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► talk about the actual movie event you have writing instead of the one part of [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► the part yeah enjoy if i did enjoy parts i but I i think what i love you like [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► they should just throw a bunch of money at them so we can get the fanfare yeah I [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► feel like and use the fanfare that would I don't know how they could have done it [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► if they could have just had the sound but not the you know obviously wouldn't [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► say 20th century fox but I when I hear any other 20th century fox movie when I [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► hear they're fanfare I i immediately think this is gonna be a star wars movie [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► i hear the star wars coming in after the 20th century fox and so my question [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► going into the movie is what are they gonna do I are they going to put the [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► Disney Magic Kingdom castle thing up and I did nothing [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► they did and what they ended up doing is they put nothing at the beginning of the [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► movie and it just started you know that so that the fanfare the 20th Century Fox [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► fanfare came back because Lucas wanted it in 77 it did retired it and he [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► brought it back because he liked it so much [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► right and that star wars was supposed to sort of harken back to like the golden [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► example of you know seriously happen so he resurrected it and it means more or [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► less stuck ever since and it could just scream Star Wars to me like that like [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► when you hear that [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► that sounds in that fanfare and you hear that you see the individual I I you know [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► I'm sitting down for a Star Wars movie [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► I even the bad ones even the bad ones at it yeah I even I I i heard a story once [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► that I don't know it's true could be apocryphal [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► but I heard that John Williams wrote the the opening notes of Star Wars knowing [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► that they would come after that fanfare and if in fact didn't-didn't John [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► Williams rerecord the fanfare so they have a high-fidelity version of it was [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► like meant to come after you know first the fanfare then a pause then the star [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► wars then kicks in i don't know i would totally believe it it's just so perfect [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► and I'm like I'm not sure if it's like is it perfect because I loved it so much [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► or you know is it actually arranged in situated just makes it perfect [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► I don't know either way silence that was a little jarring i guess but you know [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► whatever something new I guess it's better than having the disney castle [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► that were really broken my heart I just get and I like Disney I i like the [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► Disney come and I we go to Disney World [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► I don't know seven or eight times a year i bet it would have been wrong for Star [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► Wars yeah I was really shocked i thought there was no way disney was not gonna [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► pass up that was going to pass up the chance not to throw that castle up there [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► and start making more associations with Disney and star wars i was actually [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► disney's very very smart company i agree i agree and they're careful about their [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► branding and yeah they they let him kill on the loan I think I mean have led all [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► the Marvel stuff roll with that model you know like the comic book-like the [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► Marvel logo is a comic book pages flipping right and it just just Marvel i [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► don't i don't know maybe Jay didn't have a great idea but either way I think they [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► were happy to be like okay like fit for Marvel we do the marble thing and for [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► you guys [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► whatever you want like if you don't want the castle fine right and we kind of [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► thought that they might star wars-themed it like the Pirates of the Caribbean [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► movies they don't like kind of theme it to the movie and we thought they might [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► do something corny like that an intron name they made it sort of tron you know [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► me like a tron style castle but i have the same Tron right i think the is what [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► i would have what i would have pushed for [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► it was would be too i guess you you couldn't get Fox to actually use the [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► real Fox music I don't think there's any way that even like you said like [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► throwing money added I don't know there's something but if they could have [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► just made a new fanfare that was very similar in some way that strikes the [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► same notes and then play that over the Lucasfilm limited title card [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah I wanted yeah I'd like to think that I don't know who's in charge [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► of Fox i like to think that every now and then you can be look this is a [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► cultural imperative like it's not about our companies can we just used it to [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► music and that's so Canadian really think well I mean whatever reason let's [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► just do a nice thing I don't think it happens when I I'm really hard as [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► anybody I agree with you [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► so yeah anyway so long time ago in a galaxy far far away i was so exciting it [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► was exciting exciting but I remember being excited when I saw it for the [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► prequels to I i will say I've said this many times before i'm not a prequel [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► hater i mean yeah i don't i don't think they were garbage but i do remember very [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► much coming out of the first one and being like wow that was that was I feel [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► weird you know i feel i feel like i got molested [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► yeah I kept going back there was a movie center like like a hundred meters from [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► my place at the time and I just kept going back to be molested over i think [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► im gonna maybe this time I'm gonna like it [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► that's not good [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► it's like Star Wars but yeah it's like yeah it's like that with some half-ass [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► it was like it's the people i like and I'm excited but it's so bad [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► yeah there's some design that I like it there are things that I could actually [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► say nice about the two peoples see I've like but do not like movies from my [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► memory and all i remember is it was like watching c-span [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► like it was just all this political rhetoric that's all I recall that in Jar [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► Jar remember what do you drink soda this one starts out and i will see a to [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► pretty horrible III this one [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► you know I immediately immediately bag right off the bat you Skywalker has [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► vanished right [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► what a great line there are the stakes have this trade negotiation bullshit [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► it's like it's got watered together you look is not here anymore like so clearly [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► a problem right like her hero is gone i was excited because i hate looks well [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► you know yeah you know what if you don't like the hero Jedi like he's the guy [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► yeah I've got a lot of strongly held on a popular uninformed opinions about Star [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► Wars so I'm like the perfect guest know you're very informed and I had this [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► strong opinions is the way to go so I and young Skywalker is kind of a whiny [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► jerk [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► so yeah I never liked him in the in the original i I've just never have never [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► cared for him and ever since I've seen that picture of him there was a tabloid [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► picture of him and he was outside a gas station and he was digging through the [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► public ashtray and he picked up a butt and smoked it and I just thought what [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► are you doing mark I was Luke Skywalker that would help my mind [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► Luke Skywalker got into like a fancy BMW like I don't understand like I just [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► think maybe his wife wanted him to quit smoking I I don't know you're Luke [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► Skywalker by the package figure at its really really colored my whole view by [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► one all right i was confused in the opening scene where you've got a PO [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► Dameron and he very you know is easily established by the opening Texas print [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► start our general a i should say sent her most daring pilots on a mission it [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► was pretty clear okay this disguise the pilot he's you know he clearly comes [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► across as a a scroll nailed it like you immediately what was going on but then [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► they said that he went to see like an old [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► an old ally and you don't know who it is and then it's it's played by Max von [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► Sydow I had to look it up because i don't even know that his name was [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► mentioned in the movie but his character's name is Lawrence and teka [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► yeah they should just call it a maximum sido but i get it i was very steroids [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► enough name [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► I'm intimately familiar with all of the actual movies and I just expected that [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► it was going to be somebody like Lando or somebody who we knew and I'm like all [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► right he's an old guy but I don't recognize him [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► is it and I really wasted a lot of that scene trying to figure out who he was [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► because me to its next scene when he meets a color and yeah but after all it [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► would just talk about that whole opening scene III really felt like we were [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► supposed to know who he was because if they base their kind of setup like we [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► were supposed to and we didn't and I i really did it was like one of the first [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► things I did when I got home as I like looked it up and I am i okay I wasn't [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► supposed to know who that guy was but why did they yeah why do anything stupid [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► thinking about it and I was like oh wow I don't have enough star wars knowledge [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► to know who this guy is and you were two seats away from me so I couldn't ask I [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► don't know if they were trying to make you feel stupid so much they were just [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► trying to roll into a story and like you don't like so the scroll for episode 4 [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► just dropped in the deep end right and i think this one does the same thing [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► yeah and so they say it's an old family friend but I mean it's being what 32 [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► years since the last star wars movie I did want it to be like plenty of time to [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► have like an old family friend that we didn't know but I did it expected to be [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► like in Organa or a good Mon Mothma I don't know myself somebody who we were [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► suppose somebody yeah we Gentiles which until is this old man has selected you [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► know something but we don't whatever whoever he is he's the exorcist is who [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► he is [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► I heard this story that he is I totally expected wedge to be in the movie [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► because wedge is sort of an interesting trivia question because if if you ask [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► you know who are the characters who were in all three of the you know the first [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► Star Wars trilogy it's you know there's hot and Luke and Leia and the droids and [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► darth vader and all these ones that are very you know the all these iconic [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► characters but the one that's easily overlooked would be Wedge Antilles and I [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► thought well of course they're going to bring him back in that somebody told me [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► I forget I was talking to but somebody said that they approach the actors still [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► around the approach them and he was like nope can't be bothered or like maybe he [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► held out for more money or something but that was yeah what else I think that was [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► short-sighted because he probably could have made a pretty penny on that and it [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► always energy so he's the guy that meat like he made the desktop run like he I [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► think he actually dropped the fire the missiles if I'm it's been a while since [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► I've seen that one but he missed like they do I think he's the guy that the [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► the shot and they impacted on the surface [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► no no that was a that was a y-wing piloting or no no it wasn't x-wing but [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► it was the it was like it was like that the squadron captain Oh wedge [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► oh here's the thing that wedge is Luke swingman going on the trend trend right [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► and then he takes 10 me anything basically absorbs a bunch of damage and [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► then gets out of there you know in Empire he's he's actually the wounded [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► top of the at-at right he's the is the the snowspeeder pilot who's who who's [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► cable works and lucky [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► yeah he nails it at and he's the one that on the third descarada and return [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► of the jedi he blows up the like button on how to describe it there's a conduit [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► on the right-hand side that 830 nukes in order so that the the falken you can [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► blow up the main bit you know what he's right there right to the end [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► he's been in every major battle that we've seen any kick some major ass yet [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► so I had I had kind of thought at the bottom of the kraal where it said that [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► prints are generally i'm gonna keep saying the first half of the word [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► princess diamond [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► ok you like Cynthia exactly i ah I I thought maybe that was who are most [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► daring pilot was or i also was sort of hoping maybe it was Han Solo to you know [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► until we figured out that it was po'd amarin but I figured maybe you know [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► wouldn't it be cool if it was Wedge Antilles ends up wedge antilles not the [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► movie holding out for more money [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► so we're still at the crawl well yeah this is gonna be over half an hour and I [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► would have a pretty today and crawl and how about the opening and the whole [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► opening scene where it's just sort of ok you don't get let's do this [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► loved it we get a shot of have to assume is a moon has two moons orbiting jakku [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► we get a star destroyer coming in in silhouette which is nice because if they [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► just played out the same episode 4 shot i think that would've been overdone but [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► the notion that you you run the school when you pan down on two planets and the [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► stardestroyer is like that stores lower that's how you have to start a movie and [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► then we see strong tofu like assault ships kind of drop out of the store [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► which is almost beat for beat identical to what's happening in to you know start [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► was it a new hope [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► hey calling me hope and I don't like calling a new home on this show we call [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► it Star Wars yes [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► ok so let's just establish that too in Star Wars like that's the the same thing [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► right like the stairs a crazy storm trooper salt and they look badass [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► some of them get killed but they just barge in any way and they're unstoppable [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► and then after their kind of cleaned up the scene and in Star Wars data walks in [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► and in this one we have a shuttle deliver cuddle again [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► i I didn't pick up on it took me a while watching it the first time before i [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► picked up on the fact that the whole movie was more or less a remake of star [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► wars in e either very very similar or like similar but like turn like heads [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► details [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► some people have turned that into negative and I I don't like that notion [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► this is a myth it's a modern myth stop worrying about reusing plot points they [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► set out and they be told the thing that they be told the story with a few [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► different characters and a few things mixed up but have reset the do it [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► the ground so that it's versatile for like the next few movies you know right [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► right i didn't have any problem with that I thought kind of I mean maybe [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► nerds don't wanna admit it but it's kind of like a soap opera like you know has [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► all been and you know they recycle plots all the time and somebody's gonna be [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► somebody's daughter or father or and it's just the way it's gonna go [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► yeah you know I had more problem with return of the jedi when they're like [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► can't really like another desktop didn't we can it did that like right right as [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► we could this one this one at least it's like kid know we're gonna do the exact [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► same thing like don't and maybe I'm older some well i think the other thing [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► that if we're being honest with each other and I think I I didn't predict [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► that I really and I did go in blind i did not predict that they would just [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► really remake Star Wars yeah but I think it's kind of overall I think it's kind [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► of genius because they did it without actually remaking it now compare and [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► contrast with what they did with Star Trek where they would again JJ Abrams [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► they rebooted it but they've recast all of these iconic characters you know [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► there's a new captain kirk there's a new guy playing Spock and they you know use [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► the time-travel trick to get Leonard Nimoy I into sort of tied together but [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► in a way it sort of feels like a cheek because it feels like there's never [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► going to be a william shatner Kirk in this universe and I'm so glad that they [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► didn't go that way [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► that they said you know we're not remaking episode 4 5 6 I yeah you know [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► and Han Solo is still Harrison Ford and Luke Skywalker still mark hamill and [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► Leia is still carry Fisher on but yet we're making it and I feel like the [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► thing we have to be honest with each other with everybody about is that tho [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► those movies especially the first one star wars [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► ah it it it's dated in a certain way you know and it's a you know to try to get [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► with my other you know [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► favorite movie series with the james bond movies as much as I love this sean [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► connery bond movies there's no way that you could make one of those today with [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► that pacing and that level of like production quality like they look old [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► and and the first Star Wars movie looks old and it feels old with the way that [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► its paste and so I feel like telling that same story but doing it with [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► up-to-date production values and pacing is sort of necessary to to take the [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► franchisee out of cold storage i think so i think there's so much of this movie [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► that is as much like sort of on the metal level as it is actually on it and [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► the level of telling a story I like certainly not the marrying of the [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► characters and the plot points and yeah i think it felt like used up [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► I thought it felt like fresh and look familiar [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► yeah i really like i don't know i really liked it i had no issue with that I was [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► surprised that so many people did have an issue with that [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► yeah I think they're off thanks and yeah exactly i think people could complain [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► alright here's here's a a broad topic here in and from the opening scene I [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► thought kylo Ren was an excellent villain and I like the way he talked i [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► like the words that he chose like he was you know very few words but he chose [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► them very well I love this new trick that he introduced where he stopped a [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► laser bolt in midair [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► I thought that was I'd that it never occurred to me i thought it was an [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► excellent thing [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► but in the as the movie goes on so we're introduced to him and he feels like a [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► total legit badass exactly like Darth Vader in the first movie when he first [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► enters but then as the movie goes on to me once he took his helmet off [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► I only one of those can i really hate to say it but I feel like when he took his [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► helmet off it was it reminds me of vaguely of what was his name dark helmet [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► in the baseballs [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► yes Delia like yeah helmetless kylo Ren is so whiny and a and he's ineffective [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► and I it really does correspond to the moment when he takes the helmet off [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► Waikiki that when he started having the Tantrums like it's not even having [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► tantrums before [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► did he have yeah that's right he had his first tantrum and i think its first [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► tantrum was when I was like this is this is a silly person i agree yeah I think [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► he was I think it was weak and pathetic before he took the helmet off [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► I think it so my read was the heat captured ray he was in restraints and [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► then she sort of questions him by saying like I think it looks like you tried to [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► kill me well that's what happens when I'm chased by a monster mask and he [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► tries to take the mask off and I think he thinks it's a Power Move and it [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► totally backfires and the fact that he thinks it's a Power Move is where I [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► think it turns awesome like like dark nadir get that and he kills somebody you [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► know what I mean like yes frustrated he's gonna choke somebody and this guy [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► is just like breaking his lightsaber over his knee or Darth Vader keeps this [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► shit together [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► sorry that he really does all of the six guys that we've seen even in the shitty [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► movies keep their shit together they're like if you fuck up [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► I will kill you like make no mistake about it but if things if you do what I [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► tell you to do and things don't go well I'm fine [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► I'm gonna be very very angry but it's not your fault and I'm gonna move on [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► this guy is like I'm gonna beat up a computer like really this is you move [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► like there was there was a time I was probably right around Jonas's age maybe [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► like eight eight nine ten years old and my family had played a game of monopoly [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► which if you know I think everybody's familiar it takes a look takes a long [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► time and you know it well over an hour into it and I was the first one to go [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► bankrupt and I thought for sure that I was going to win because I just thought [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► you know my family is full of simpletons it's good it's good that you're sharing [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► with as well as a ten-year-old you know I really thought that I you know and [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► that smartest person in the room yeah and I was gonna be a wheel and deal and [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► Donald Trump my way into victory [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► you know it's a real estate magnate and I went bankrupt magnate and I i lost i [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► was the first one out and I went into a fit and I really we were playing in the [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► kitchen on the kitchen table and I went into the living room which is next door [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► picked a pillow off the sofa and threw it into the kitchen and it was it could [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► not have been worse [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► it just swept the board that swept everything off the board [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► everybody's money it just slid across the board like one of the Dukes of [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► Hazzard sliding across a generally and i instantly knew [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► wow that was a horrible mistake I just ruined the game for everybody like it [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► was completely irrecoverable and everybody was like well I guess the [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► game's over nice job John but i was ten years old you know Yang and I I'll [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► learned a lesson from it i was like wow you know you gotta you know that I i [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► don't know i know that family because I'm like never serious but you don't [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► you're very even-tempered I just feel like it's I mean it's obviously a [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► deliberate choice it's not like they made a mistake but it it's a curious [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► choice that they've made the main bad guy somebody who has the emotional [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► temperament of a 10 or 11 year-old well I think it needs to do to in order to [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► disassociate and with the fader but it makes him so on likable in a way that [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► you have no respect for him like your Vader was not likeable like he was [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► likable as a badass but you know not really likable but this guy that's [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► that's what made me so mad when he killed on so like I'm gonna stop [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► bringing that up here because he was just so unlikeable like he was not [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► worthy of killing on Zola that means we really got to me I think that's the [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► point i know i know that's the point but I just I'm not gonna talk about it [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► well get forget the handful of it I think did and I think did Dorothy to [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► establish an archetype for villains that we've seen played over you don't since [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► its introduction and this is like they can't do the same thing when you can do [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► b-better Vader than Vader can't do that so they need they need a petulant child [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► I mean that seems like a pretty like a petulant overly in titled daily [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► misogynistic flakes certainly self-entitled I'll they nailed it trial [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► yeah had to be you know to be the villain because you've already got the [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► cold calculating guy i don't have it is cold and calculating a seething they've [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► got the ceiling thing done [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► you can't see the bed invader like his breathing is seething like you literally [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► can't get more than that [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► so we've got this guy who's a whiny wanna be and that it makes sense in the [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► universe and it makes sense as villain and it's and it's pathetic and i like [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► that you don't need to respect I like that he doesn't deserve to respect and [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► that's his problem is that he feels that he does but it's immediately apparent to [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► anybody that watches him that like no you don't your university or kid right [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► well and maybe it's an evolution because i hated Anakin to in the yeah the other [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► ones [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► yeah so yeah you know maybe I don't know maybe maybe killing han Solo [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► it gives him the you know what I'm a badass I killed my dad [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► I killed Han Solo so maybe you know maybe it's an evolution I don't think it [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► I think that kind of made got it and move it backfired in terms of turning [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► into the light side but he was certainly not thinking with his head when he [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► engaged variant Finn in that lightsaber battle definitely definitely anyway so [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► we're jumping all over the place [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► yeah but that but I feel like our conversation I mean yeah [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► the other thing they do is in the opening scene we are instantly and again [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► a parallels the first movie where Princess Leia you know put the plans in [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► r2 d2 and we've got a new r2d2 bb-8 and it's you know it's could not be more I [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► almost feel like I should have realized they're remaking the movie I just [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► thought oh it's just one note you know similar their secret plans and are [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► giving them to this astromech droid who keeps any moats instead of like an odd [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► in the beginning like it just felt like a nod to the first movie right and i [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► love BBA and I feel like and I know you know that was a character that they let [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► out in the trailers and they started making toys and stuff like that for it [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► so you got the gist of you know like the way that he sort of built like a snowman [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► but i really liked him in the movie and I feel like that one of the things that [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► did to me was at just a home run in the movie is the bb-8 character [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► what do you guys say i don't i don't think he could have done better I idroid [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► likes to do would be a failure right right and what you can have another r2 [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► unit we've seen that we had our for into p equals now I had nobody cared about [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► not even obi-wan Kenobi low and literally nobody cared about AK so yeah [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► now I had left it I that they managed to make it feel genuine new character droid [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► that we actually like and I asked that's no small feat right like Daddy was such [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► an r2d2 I mean he's like lucky he's cuter and he's more mobile and you know [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► like how is behind people's legs [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► he's good r2d2 expresses his personality in terms of beeps and Boop's 98 [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► environments and ya like like a like a playful puppy you know he had like you [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► said like hiding between the legs and yeah yeah he's more like a pet and her [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► teacher never got the sense it out to detail is a bit i always got the sense [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► that are to even at in the first movie where we see him or even if you go back [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► to the prequels even in the prequels one when you know chronologically we first [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► cr2 he already feels like he's an old droid and sort of acts like an old droid [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► whereas bb-8 is it feels like almost childish [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► yes he's got like a sense of wonder about him i'm one of the biggest laughs [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► in the movie and I I really do love it i think it's so great is where again we're [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► skipping around but when they're on the Falcon and Ray is underneath trying to [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► fix the ship and Finn is explaining that I'm not really part of the resistance [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► but there's no way we're getting out of this unless you tell us where he's keep [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► coming clean to the droid right [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► and he gives them a thumbs up and bb-8 as like a like a butane lighter and use [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► it to give it a thumbs up i was ready for the second time we saw it I i really [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► like gauge the crowd the crowd absolutely lost it at that . and i feel [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► like that was really the point where where everybody in the theater was like [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► all right I am fully on board with this movie [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► yeah i think that that's certainly the biggest laugh what about in broad broad [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► strokes I almost feel like in it just to jump to a a problem with the movie is [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► that in the first star wars they open the famous opening shot where you see [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► the the rebel ship small rebel ship going away and then the giant wow it [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► just keeps going and going and going [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► giant star destroyer in addition to just being a beautiful shot and a [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► tremendously effective special effect it also instantly establishes the power [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► dynamics between the rebellion in the empire that the rebels are small and [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► really up against it and the Empire is huge and the overwhelming military [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► strength in the galaxy the shot establishes that whereas in this movie [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► it's very unclear to me even after having watched it twice and you know [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► read the internet and unspoiled myself it's very unclear to me like how strong [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► the the first order is and how strong the New Republic and this resistance R [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► and yeah and he can tell and they blow [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► it out so the city's the silhouette of start story Bloods out a moon rather [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► than the Sun you think that would be more of it you know i mean like if you [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► get like a planet and a son and like this like start story just kind of comes [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► in between them [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► I I don't think so [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► the the opening crawl did not explain the political situation very well and [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► none of the expository dialogue really did I leave anything I think that might [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► have been a reaction to um you know the prequels where are we did spend time [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► talking about like who's voting on what from where and like a way that Senator [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► need some farm subsidies so that we can have the stormtroopers whatever it was i [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► I think maybe did it got closed over a little bit much i do know that there [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► have been scenes cut to deal with a little bit with political side of things [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► yeah I've heard that too including like that the characters who got blown up on [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► the balcony [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► yeah we see we see a woman like the close-up of the woman's face she [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► actually apparently gets dispatched by layer to go and talk to the Galactic [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► Senate about getting up more support resistance but that think it all got cut [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► and probably rightfully so is long enough movie with enough going on that I [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► don't think we need needed to know it is a good question and then those prequels [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► i mean if i would have heard the words Galactic Senate I would have got nothing [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► left [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► yeah yeah well you would've missed and so again field [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► yeah and I you know what and then I'd be happy [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► one of the things that I thought was pretty clever and I liked it is even [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► know it's [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► it's 30 years later and you know i like i like the basic idea that that what [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► happened in return of the jedi did not completely shut down the Empire [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► instantly the Empire truly was an empire and you know losing another star [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► destroyer and are not started toward death star and the super star destroyer [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► and losing that you know the Emperor and Vader obviously you get them back [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► tremendously but it left them with something that they could still have [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► they still had this massive Starfleet yeah I love to make sense there's no way [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► you can click that battle did not [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► there's no way that battle could cripple something is lunch is a galactic empire [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► and i really like the way that they flip this though and they made because it was [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► unclear how old Darth Vader was in the first movies but you knew an obi-wan [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► said that he was you know I told Luke that you know he you know had fought [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► with him and it was a starpilot so you knew he had to be at least like 40 or 50 [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► you know that he was you know more or less 12 you know 20 years maybe or so [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► younger than obi-wan but Tarkin was greatly well couldn't wait for those [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► first movies i did not think he was 20 years younger than opening line [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► oh you didn't how well did you think it was because he said that is a mage I'll [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► see I thought that he was a little younger because he said he told Luke [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► that it was an apprentice of mine you know [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► well ok so in a new Hopi says that he thought with him right so that [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► established my relationship thing and then he talks about Darth Vader having [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► trained him [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► yeah but then even addresses in his old man your powers are weak old man [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► yeah okay i still didn't [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► the 20 years but ok yeah i just figured well yeah yeah yeah I don't think you [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► will have the energy i think you have to have 20 years on somebody to call them [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► an old man right you can call somebody is roughly your age an old man now i'm [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► gonna start getting this i do it i'd love it if you could get going i always [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► go into the really interesting twist that especially that the Hawks character [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► is like a young i got a boy i wanted to punch that guy and I ya feel like you [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► wanted to want me they wanted you to want to punch him [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► ah like when he was given his is little Nazi speech to all the troops and I was [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► just like and i would like to see you get punched [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► yeah you want to grab like a captain america shield and just hit again faced [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► with it [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► he's awful is that we're going with the turkan thing [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► oh yeah that he will get to me it's one of those aspects of the movie where yes [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► the whole thing parallels the first Star Wars movie sucks is clearly the the [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► taärgonn stand-in and i really like the twist that instead of being an old guy [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► he is young i mean i don't know it looks like to me like he's only around thirty [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► years old [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► yeah he's young he's full of piss and vinegar and these he's on a mission [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► right and it's like inherently like I what was the name of the actor who [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► played target Peter go to ya know what is it [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► yeah that date that's exactly it isn't it somebody'll correct us if we're wrong [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► yeah I back I just instantly commanded respect because it just who he is right [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► you just had to respect them whereas Hux is like because he's like a young punk [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► you had to know that [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► oh no I'm sorry Peter Cushing was the name not pretty crushing so at Peter [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► O'Toole's yeah yeah i'm looking it up on my phone but he commanded respect just [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► because it was just this old british actor who you know as a kid I don't even [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► know what he was into you just know you've seen him in his face is like so [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► it's like Max on set up like exactly he it's yeah so I thought that was pretty [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► brilliant i really like that I like that the guy is [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► a young punk [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► yeah definitely well his arrogance and vigor really got sold because he was [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► beyond gay I think it's like he's too young and dumb to have actually thought [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► about what the hell he's saying and so we can deliver these kind of speeches [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► with complete conviction and as opposed to having like it a sense of cynicism [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► but you don't want to hear the vader read the damper deliver is his tox [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► there's always a cynicism behind it i just think this guy is just a real [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► believer you know he's a born-again fascist and per Imperial Lackey leader [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► again again morning in fascist create he really is the keys [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► who does that you can tell you get listened for like into politics [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► you can just see that he'd be voting for Trump though [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► yeah thanks yeah that's alright let's take another try not to go there let's [TS]

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00:58:54 ◼   ► all right we haven't really spoken about Rayette and Amy [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► I love ray I mean I think how could you not like Ray I they loved her she was so [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► exciting and I i have that was another football what we gonna say i don't [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► remember because you interrupted me I was directing you to speak in the [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► microbe because you picked them faces they're clearly i mean this is again [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► this is obvious anybody seen the movies she is the luke skywalker she's the you [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► know the force aware force capable 20ish year old who's living on a desert planet [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► and has you know dreams and of a bigger adventures is she's a pilot you know [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► she's the new Luke but whereas lucious was better than she's better than look [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► is exactly a veteran Luke wants to go into it [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► is exactly a veteran Luke wants to go into it [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► whatever I'm gosh II station that's not the word i know it's an American flag [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► and perfect Toshi's how she said she will build you some dad power converters [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► lake [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► she just she just made me so so happy I mean she was just this amazing female [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► character and and I don't know if you remember like before the movie came out [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► JJ Abrams was obviously doing a lot of press and he said something kind of [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► Judah there's just something stupid and but he didn't [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► oh but you know I just felt like will give the guy a chance and I just think [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► he's trying to be coy right but I just think he was and let's face it when we [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► were little girls did love Star Wars but it was marketed towards boys and i think [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► that like everyone who criticized him owes him an apology because he said [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► maybe one silly kind of dumb thing but then in the movie it was so true i mean [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► she absolutely kicked ass she was amazing [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► yeah i think he said something like a Star Wars has always been a boy's thing [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► right but I hope with this movie mothers will want to take the daughters and [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► it'll be a good thing and then people get bent out of shape because he was [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► like right wasn't always voicing i think yeah okay [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► true i'll keep the guy said something stupid and then he made a movie with it [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► kickass video he'd already made the movie when he said it and he was like [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► trying not to be right can spoil it and he's trying to be like look this is [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► gonna be more this could be more powerful women characters in this movie [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► than you expect is what he's trying to say right there and then it's like just [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► he screwed up [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► so what I really loved the introduction to her cinematically helps cuz she's [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► she's exploring the the husk of the destroyed our star destroyer on the [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► surface of the planet and I i thought it the first time I saw it and I had this [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► in mind the second time i saw it to me i really do think it's almost an homage to [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► Wally that she lives this solitary life that is to me a lot like Wally you know [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► in the way that while he was cleaning up garbage and she was sort of scavenging [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► you know the garbage for parts but the way to that the entire introduction to [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► her she's by herself and she never mother's you know there's never anything [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► where she says anything she doesn't talk to herself or anything it's purely [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► cinematic you just see her exploring this thing it's beautiful [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► it really does look real it I mean I you know obviously I guess a lot of that was [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► CGI but unlike the prequels to me it really looked like they built a giant [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► empty star destroyer and it established her character it's like wow this whoever [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► she is she knows you know you know the way that she's like grappling around on [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► these hooks and and cables and stuff like that like she knows what she's [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► doing and then her excavation ends with her sliding down the dune like a sled [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► and it's just like a little bit of whimsy that to me was like but she's you [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► know she's trying to have fun I loved it I loved the luxury they took in [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► establishing and the way she lived her life and a lot of movies just have a [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► like a faster pace these days and maybe though drop a couple of lines of [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► exposition like oh man I can't believe spent like another day scavenging in the [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► Star Destroyer didn't like something like that but this is high so much [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► better like you can like it's nice and slow it the the sled is whimsy but it [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► also just makes sense why like she you know that she's been doing this long [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► time she collects a bunch of stuff she puts on the sled she slides down the [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► thing and she carries at home on your speeder right and it was slow paced but [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► it was still enjoyable to watch and I felt like it was slow paced and you've [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► got a lot out of it like you really got her isolation and I didn't I thought [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► that was really i thought it was really interesting but like you said it was a [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► slow-paced thing but it was super enjoyable to watch i loved it i don't [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► think she was in line [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► she was in line to sell the parts [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► is the weird like it's just perfect like the the monotony of like okay I'm going [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► to do this i love the shot of her and the she's cleaning off the parts [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► she's collected and she looks up and across the table from her is a weathered [TS]

01:04:41 ◼   ► old 1i and it like not just no one but like a woman is clearly being like [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► beaten down by the sands and the environment that they're living in and [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► it's very big shot but you it is registered with her and with us that [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► like okay this is right this is it this is my future [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► this is me if I don't get something going yeah right and the other the other [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► shot that to me was it's just cinema it there's no dialogue but when she tries [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► on the helmet the she finds like a rebel so great a rebel x-wing pilot helmet and [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► she tries it on it tells you exactly what you think she's dreaming of getting [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► off the planet right and she's eating food all happy [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► yeah she's not start telling that food at disney any player felt anything at [TS]

01:05:34 ◼   ► Disney and the Star Wars stuff is just out of control like they have opened up [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► a new building in one of the parks just to sell Star Wars stuff and they're [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► going to tell this little gruel packet i know it and kids are gonna go nuts one [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► quarter one quarter portion yeah but i liked it that she was like she had a [TS]

01:05:55 ◼   ► smile on her face like okay I was the day well done I've got something to eat [TS]

01:05:59 ◼   ► i'm sitting here eating my thing I've got my helmet feeling it you know I'm [TS]

01:06:06 ◼   ► well here's because it wasn't like uh and it wasn't like it you know like an [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► Oliver Twist kind of thing was I could have got everything is awful and I'm the [TS]

01:06:15 ◼   ► worst it was right now make my way it's money that way so that i found her so [TS]

01:06:21 ◼   ► much more likable than Luke in the first movie where Luke is is so [TS]

01:06:28 ◼   ► you know like and he's like on another season I was me like why is this [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► happening to me like i have these big dreams but i'm not really gonna do [TS]

01:06:36 ◼   ► anything about them i'm just gonna whine about my circumstance yeah and I didn't [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► you know what I didn't get like a contentedness from ray I got a hey I'm [TS]

01:06:44 ◼   ► putting up with this but I'm gonna do something like oh yeah don't get me [TS]

01:06:48 ◼   ► wrong i don't care i mean i don't you just took joy in small moment like right [TS]

01:06:52 ◼   ► my page on my thing it's at least a meeting for today and this is where get [TS]

01:06:57 ◼   ► better like I'm gonna be happy helmet on [TS]

01:07:02 ◼   ► pusha love i just love the idea of what and you don't want nobody talks about is [TS]

01:07:05 ◼   ► the sushi marks off I one day at a time on that wall right and there's a lot of [TS]

01:07:13 ◼   ► them are a lot of my oh that America's gonna yeah yeah yeah clearly her [TS]

01:07:20 ◼   ► backstory is it's a total JJ Abrams is a mystery box yeah mystery box and [TS]

01:07:28 ◼   ► including the fact that we don't hear her last name [TS]

01:07:30 ◼   ► I mean obviously there's an awful lot of people who are speculating that maybe [TS]

01:07:33 ◼   ► she's Luke's daughter that she's raised Skywalker and yeah I don't believe that [TS]

01:07:38 ◼   ► and she was left there for whatever mysterious reasons I don't know it's [TS]

01:07:43 ◼   ► there's gotta be some reason we don't know her last name or any other [TS]

01:07:47 ◼   ► speculation the other guests you know and going along typical star wars lines [TS]

01:07:53 ◼   ► where everybody ends up being somebody's brother or sister would be that she's a [TS]

01:07:57 ◼   ► common layers daughter but that that to me doesn't seem plausible just because [TS]

01:08:02 ◼   ► of the way that Hans interaction with her it there's it doesn't even if [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► there's even a chance of that is she's Kenobi's granddaughter is it we know [TS]

01:08:12 ◼   ► that no we don't have help for their and that's what I choose to assert right now [TS]

01:08:19 ◼   ► eh she's got the accent be here Kenobi speaking to her in a flashback sequence [TS]

01:08:25 ◼   ► see a panic and can't be when at it originally which is kind of what set the [TS]

01:08:34 ◼   ► whole thing off [TS]

01:08:35 ◼   ► um and I don't know what the other one is an amazing i'd i'd have you purchased [TS]

01:08:44 ◼   ► awesome i have read so she's got a huge obi-wan Kenobi fan like he's my guy so [TS]

01:08:51 ◼   ► I'm going with her bandit or maybe she could be like is nice or something but [TS]

01:08:56 ◼   ► she you know maybe she's named Ray Kenobi no no so-so my I mean my thing is [TS]

01:09:00 ◼   ► like you know what if you look like you and rigor and all of your buddies on the [TS]

01:09:05 ◼   ► jetty order to get wiped out and you're stuck on tatooine with nothing to do for [TS]

01:09:10 ◼   ► 20 years i think the cantina may look like a good place to have a little bit [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► of fun if you know have we thought about the fact that she might be you notice a [TS]

01:09:20 ◼   ► concentrated haven't thought about that that it had not thought about that I [TS]

01:09:27 ◼   ► don't want to know how that goes [TS]

01:09:29 ◼   ► I don't here's a complaint i have with the movie one of my complaints is that [TS]

01:09:34 ◼   ► they don't introduce any memorable vehicles that are new that it's just [TS]

01:09:40 ◼   ► they've painted the TIE fighters black they not they have created a new to see [TS]

01:09:44 ◼   ► TIE fighter [TS]

01:09:45 ◼   ► what is it like the Special Forces TIE fighter yeah that was a plot contrivance [TS]

01:09:49 ◼   ► right like am but it's you know it's the Millennium Falcon x-wings Star [TS]

01:09:54 ◼   ► Destroyers all the videos know why wings [TS]

01:09:56 ◼   ► there's no tie interceptors onerous there's no a-wings there's no b-wings is [TS]

01:10:01 ◼   ► nothing it was just excellent I fighters that's exactly where i'm going with the [TS]

01:10:04 ◼   ► only cool new vehicle at all is raised speeder which i kinda liked it i did i [TS]

01:10:11 ◼   ► kinda like to make a landspeeder we turn it on its side [TS]

01:10:14 ◼   ► I don't know I kinda like that i would I think if I was a kid I'd want i would [TS]

01:10:18 ◼   ► want the race Peter toy I liked it was kinda shitty it's just a big box with no [TS]

01:10:24 ◼   ► guess it makes sense right it's like what she's not gonna be make going [TS]

01:10:29 ◼   ► around with it like a dope ride wherever it's saying this thing moves and they're [TS]

01:10:34 ◼   ► bad silurian it's totally utilitarian well i guess here I think it looks cool [TS]

01:10:38 ◼   ► my only complaint with it is that [TS]

01:10:40 ◼   ► given her career she kind of needs like a pickup truck yeah i think all think [TS]

01:10:48 ◼   ► like in theory she could there could be some some salvageable stuff in that Star [TS]

01:10:52 ◼   ► Destroyer that or or whatever other records you know she's she's exploring [TS]

01:10:57 ◼   ► that would be too big to take on that thing she kind of needs a truck so my [TS]

01:11:02 ◼   ► might take it is that this scavenging has been going on for so long that [TS]

01:11:07 ◼   ► there's very little left yet seem to get like she's climbing way up to get like a [TS]

01:11:14 ◼   ► little tiny part that you know she takes right [TS]

01:11:18 ◼   ► I don't think like all of the good stuff was gone like 20 years ago basically [TS]

01:11:22 ◼   ► before she was born it is kind of my fake take on it right it's a rough life [TS]

01:11:27 ◼   ► yeah it's not just scavenging it's like it like picking it . it is little scraps [TS]

01:11:36 ◼   ► of meat off the bones at this point [TS]

01:11:38 ◼   ► alright so the other new major character is Finn what do you guys think about [TS]

01:11:43 ◼   ► Finn I love him I liked it a lot [TS]

01:11:47 ◼   ► yeah Peter he's like a you know when it's it he's like a good guy and like [TS]

01:11:53 ◼   ► he's finding himself throughout the movie like I think it's fun [TS]

01:11:57 ◼   ► he's got a good heart and he has bad luck [TS]

01:12:01 ◼   ► I like that he's kind of the bumbler you know what I mean maybe you're the badass [TS]

01:12:04 ◼   ► and he's kind of the bubbler you're like that I like that well and I think it [TS]

01:12:08 ◼   ► compares well in in in the first scene where we really get to see him at mean [TS]

01:12:12 ◼   ► we obviously there's that the bat the opening battle where he for whatever [TS]

01:12:16 ◼   ► reason you know has broken through the indoctrination of the stormtroopers and [TS]

01:12:21 ◼   ► and has serious moral qualms hated that though because storm troopers don't [TS]

01:12:26 ◼   ► bleed and I realized like this the the use of that you know that he did it [TS]

01:12:31 ◼   ► marks him and it shows that he's affected but stormtroopers have never [TS]

01:12:35 ◼   ► bled I thought it was weird i agree it was weird it definitely broke the [TS]

01:12:42 ◼   ► expectations of the Star Wars movies and but if [TS]

01:12:47 ◼   ► think the fact that we saw a strong trooper bleeding humanize them right and [TS]

01:12:53 ◼   ► I which allowed us to then let go ahead and I am I didn't he was like holy crap [TS]

01:12:58 ◼   ► we're killing people here for no reason we're just mad yeah but like just the [TS]

01:13:01 ◼   ► mere fact that a stormtrooper at also a that's what should we didn't have it [TS]

01:13:07 ◼   ► live on [TS]

01:13:07 ◼   ► yeah like and it does make sense not to make sense just keep rolling [TS]

01:13:13 ◼   ► Thank start thinking keep rolling okay he's a human and now we're expressing [TS]

01:13:18 ◼   ► his human and he kinda has a bond with this guy and that's it like just I [TS]

01:13:25 ◼   ► vividly better shorter keep in my childhood what you know when the movies [TS]

01:13:30 ◼   ► were new and I was a little kid that one of the recurring arguments that me and [TS]

01:13:34 ◼   ► my friends would have heard or a debate i guess was exactly what what are the [TS]

01:13:38 ◼   ► stormtroopers are the people are they clones are you know because they [TS]

01:13:42 ◼   ► mentioned the Clone Wars you know is that they cloned and I remember a lot of [TS]

01:13:46 ◼   ► my friends thought we people because they switch you know they han and luke [TS]

01:13:52 ◼   ► take their outfit [TS]

01:13:53 ◼   ► yeah but i'd ever people who I remember I had friends who argued that they were [TS]

01:13:56 ◼   ► droids they must have been like robots and they even the ones that are stupid [TS]

01:14:00 ◼   ► and that they you know that that I agree that was stupid that was in my argument [TS]

01:14:05 ◼   ► but it was enough of a mystery that there at least some kids would argue [TS]

01:14:09 ◼   ► that they were droids in that han and luke had like hollowed-out this you know [TS]

01:14:13 ◼   ► taking all the robot can tell what had taken a lot of time I agree it's stupid [TS]

01:14:18 ◼   ► it wasn't my argument I'm subcase stupid way harsh third childhood friends a no [TS]

01:14:24 ◼   ► but I've always seen them is is I don't want to throw him under the bus but my [TS]

01:14:29 ◼   ► childhood friend I just named david knew more thought that they were destroyed [TS]

01:14:32 ◼   ► ok David I'm sorry man that I don't didn't mean to call you stupid you made [TS]

01:14:37 ◼   ► a case for it though I bet he did as a ten-year-old alright i know i love i [TS]

01:14:44 ◼   ► love this scene i really love the scene were we're we're po and Finn first meet [TS]

01:14:50 ◼   ► and [TS]

01:14:51 ◼   ► I it to me and ended where JJ Abrams really just nailed it [TS]

01:14:56 ◼   ► we're pole Dameron is clearly like a a right out of you know mythology [TS]

01:15:03 ◼   ► he's the hero zero he's brave he's never afraid that your job that could make [TS]

01:15:09 ◼   ► like a granite block like no yeah that's and even the jacket i felt like how he's [TS]

01:15:14 ◼   ► in Indiana Jones yeah and like a typical you know like when james bond gets [TS]

01:15:17 ◼   ► captured he's never liked worried you know that he's not going he just figures [TS]

01:15:21 ◼   ► I'm something's gonna happen i'm gonna get out of yeah and II think it's like [TS]

01:15:24 ◼   ► your thing where he's with the script ahead and yeah I got that confidence and [TS]

01:15:28 ◼   ► a fin is a perfect foil because Finn is like literally in like a flop sweat I [TS]

01:15:34 ◼   ► mean he is like in like he's having like the crisis of his life he knows that [TS]

01:15:38 ◼   ► captain phasma is on to him you know he's supposed to go down to what did she [TS]

01:15:44 ◼   ► say I want your weapon inspected they're going to figure out in everything she [TS]

01:15:48 ◼   ► says report to Division I don't know what that means but it's like at can it [TS]

01:15:53 ◼   ► doesn't sound good [TS]

01:15:54 ◼   ► okay and there's that line where he's like why are you doing this so you part [TS]

01:15:59 ◼   ► of the resistance any and Finn is like it's just the right thing to do because [TS]

01:16:02 ◼   ► you need a pilot because yeah I need a pilot and it's funny and that really did [TS]

01:16:07 ◼   ► that moment in the movie watching it really struck me that for all of the the [TS]

01:16:11 ◼   ► book length criticism you can have of the prequel trilogy trilogy and what's [TS]

01:16:16 ◼   ► wrong with it that the dialogue is stilted in the characters are lame and [TS]

01:16:20 ◼   ► it's the pot is all this political stuff and you don't even know who the bad guys [TS]

01:16:24 ◼   ► are because it seems like both sides are really working for the Emperor so [TS]

01:16:27 ◼   ► there's no bag and and you go on and on and on and and talk about the effects [TS]

01:16:30 ◼   ► and and how everything was green screen but it really hit me when with that joke [TS]

01:16:34 ◼   ► of yeah I need a pilot that you know what one of those huge huge gaping flaws [TS]

01:16:39 ◼   ► in the prequel trilogy is there's nothing funny in them at all and a Star [TS]

01:16:43 ◼   ► Wars movie should be funny [TS]

01:16:44 ◼   ► yes yeah you need to get the funny action beats like it's right but like i [TS]

01:16:51 ◼   ► said earlier it's all corny funny but it's like intoxicated right now it's in [TS]

01:16:57 ◼   ► a good way and that's why I like i said earlier like you got the feeling that [TS]

01:17:00 ◼   ► the people who made this movie really loved Star Wars [TS]

01:17:03 ◼   ► and I feel like they hit so many of the jokes in the right way like the the joke [TS]

01:17:09 ◼   ► about you know when they're running toward the ship and he's like what about [TS]

01:17:13 ◼   ► that one and she's like no that one's garbage and then you know then they have [TS]

01:17:17 ◼   ► to go to that one and it's the Millennium Falcon that's such a great [TS]

01:17:20 ◼   ► job they get such a star wars like it just hits the perfect tone of the end [TS]

01:17:24 ◼   ► the main theme kicks in like they did the camera turns to show the Millennium [TS]

01:17:30 ◼   ► fucking it does like dad then get the thing that's so exciting [TS]

01:17:34 ◼   ► yeah oh yeah our now we're playing for really such a perfect star wars joke [TS]

01:17:41 ◼   ► totally corny but yet you laugh anything without slicing with the PO and Finn is [TS]

01:17:49 ◼   ► amazing because it immediately establishes a friends character who [TS]

01:17:54 ◼   ► actually doesn't even have a name yet but it is establish him as like I a [TS]

01:18:01 ◼   ► guide that knows what the good thing say is like he knows what the right thing to [TS]

01:18:06 ◼   ► do and say is but he's actually just really out for himself [TS]

01:18:11 ◼   ► I like I'm letting you go because that's what I think to do [TS]

01:18:14 ◼   ► oh you need a pilot at yeah I need finally like this like he knows what the [TS]

01:18:20 ◼   ► thing to say is and then he's just he can't he can't hold it together like you [TS]

01:18:25 ◼   ► can't lie very well you know so and that comes up again and again the movie [TS]

01:18:32 ◼   ► yeah and so it one of the parallels I think and it's not an exact parallel but [TS]

01:18:36 ◼   ► clearly Finn is in a certain way he's he is the Han Solo of this movie where he's [TS]

01:18:43 ◼   ► the character who's really just looking out for his own interest [TS]

01:18:46 ◼   ► yeah yes well and willing i will be his way through everything [TS]

01:18:50 ◼   ► yeah we're han was sort of as soon as you met me was good [TS]

01:18:55 ◼   ► drizzle and competent a thin is competent to some ways but definitely [TS]

01:19:01 ◼   ► not not world-wise like hand was right right because he's been a program [TS]

01:19:09 ◼   ► stormtrooper this whole time so yeah I think it's amazing that he has as much [TS]

01:19:14 ◼   ► thought as he doesn't get his things happen if anything it's kind of [TS]

01:19:18 ◼   ► impressive that he's not more than an asshole i'm not to take out of the [TS]

01:19:23 ◼   ► moment but um did we tell her son [TS]

01:19:26 ◼   ► we're doing this and is it weird that he hasn't wondered where we are i think i [TS]

01:19:32 ◼   ► just thought of that and he doesn't know where we are and he's not concerned I [TS]

01:19:39 ◼   ► don't figure it out okay it like he just got new video games for Christmas and I [TS]

01:19:48 ◼   ► haven't seen him upright in the days one of the one of the things that in the [TS]

01:19:59 ◼   ► first Star Wars movie is it hon [TS]

01:20:02 ◼   ► in Luke you really don't see them together much there on the Millennium [TS]

01:20:07 ◼   ► Falcon then obi-wan is telling them you know about the force and highways assume [TS]

01:20:11 ◼   ► disqus hon can't really stand him and huh [TS]

01:20:14 ◼   ► everything I've been all around the galaxy I've never seen anything that [TS]

01:20:17 ◼   ► makes me believe in an all-powerful force controls my destiny and then [TS]

01:20:21 ◼   ► they're on the Death Star and its really really you know the only real seem to [TS]

01:20:25 ◼   ► have together is that scene where they decide to go rescue Princess Leia and [TS]

01:20:29 ◼   ► Luke it's like you know she's rich you know you know they'll be a big reward [TS]

01:20:34 ◼   ► more than you can imagine i don't know i can imagine quite a bit [TS]

01:20:38 ◼   ► well they should do we have the end up in government compactor [TS]

01:20:42 ◼   ► yeah but it's mostly action head-butted somehow got together for that much I [TS]

01:20:46 ◼   ► mean it's obviously more than poen dinner together but it's not that much [TS]

01:20:49 ◼   ► but then somehow but the way that it works though is that when Empire strike [TS]

01:20:52 ◼   ► strikes back starts and luke says in on his communicator han old buddy and when [TS]

01:20:59 ◼   ► you know Lucas to come back and haunt is like that's my friend out there you know [TS]

01:21:02 ◼   ► I'm gonna you know yeah you know what it is it's when can we get shut down [TS]

01:21:07 ◼   ► yeah and it was standing right there and they see it happen and that think that's [TS]

01:21:11 ◼   ► the moment where it's like there's something about the interaction between [TS]

01:21:14 ◼   ► Finn and po that to me even though it's really minimal in this movie that's just [TS]

01:21:20 ◼   ► that one scene where they escaped together and then [TS]

01:21:22 ◼   ► when they're reunited and he's like hey that's my jacket I but somehow like if [TS]

01:21:27 ◼   ► the next movie starts and it's it acted it'll just feel like poem Finn are like [TS]

01:21:33 ◼   ► best buddies and comrades with ya with the camaraderie like that's one of those [TS]

01:21:37 ◼   ► things that that JJ Abrams really nailed yeah well that I I i mean i don't know [TS]

01:21:43 ◼   ► but i would bet a huge amount of money that the next movie is not gonna start [TS]

01:21:47 ◼   ► back on that planet with me and Luke staring at each other [TS]

01:21:55 ◼   ► no no definitely I think it's sort of like it's a good tradition in Star Wars [TS]

01:22:00 ◼   ► movies that something happened in between the movies you have to do what [TS]

01:22:05 ◼   ► the school going to be scrolls can be like episode 8 [TS]

01:22:09 ◼   ► did you see the last one you like or you know I posit will wait [TS]

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01:22:56 ◼   ► much better than the old internet that you might be using or the hodgepodge of [TS]

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01:23:08 ◼   ► ah you already have enough work to do white wine why waste time trying to [TS]

01:23:12 ◼   ► organize the to do's and the tasks and stuff like that [TS]

01:23:15 ◼   ► go check out in igloo they've got everything all in one system they've got [TS]

01:23:21 ◼   ► like a little twitter-like microblog so you imagine having like a private [TS]

01:23:25 ◼   ► twitter that's just for you and your team to do's file-sharing [TS]

01:23:30 ◼   ► everything you need to to get your work done to organize your team [TS]

01:23:34 ◼   ► where do you go to find out more you get a free trial at igloo software.com / tts [TS]

01:23:40 ◼   ► so that's another one where the slug is just the talk shows initials tts igloo [TS]

01:23:45 ◼   ► software.com / tts use that URL don't know you came from the show and you will [TS]

01:23:52 ◼   ► get a free trial up to 10 people you can just use a glue for free indefinitely so [TS]

01:23:57 ◼   ► if your team small enough you don't have to worry about paying port so go check [TS]

01:24:00 ◼   ► them out at blue software joint that you're getting better at those you're [TS]

01:24:07 ◼   ► really good at those [TS]

01:24:08 ◼   ► I don't listen to your show like this is really good [TS]

01:24:12 ◼   ► you're getting better i can't wait to hear you pronounce the next one though [TS]

01:24:15 ◼   ► because water maybe a pic from the tour type situation [TS]

01:24:28 ◼   ► alright so we've talked about Ray we talked about has been great [TS]

01:24:33 ◼   ► yeah it really does so yeah we saw we talked to everybody talked about in that [TS]

01:24:39 ◼   ► hole is way he's man candy you can like flight excellent pretty great [TS]

01:24:46 ◼   ► he's got to have a bigger role in the next movie right yeah he said he's sort [TS]

01:24:50 ◼   ► of like gonna take the place of Han Solo i think in terms of I really like him [TS]

01:24:55 ◼   ► just because i have some like a guy said square jaw like he's gotta be yeah he [TS]

01:25:01 ◼   ► was awesome he's like almost to us and it's just ridiculous yeah so we left [TS]

01:25:08 ◼   ► with color and you want to talk about Keller well i was gonna I was gonna go [TS]

01:25:12 ◼   ► to they you know where we're aiming it said you know [TS]

01:25:16 ◼   ► no not that one that one's garbage and they take off in the Millennium Falcon [TS]

01:25:19 ◼   ► and then it was so exciting but then here come on and chewy and it's the [TS]

01:25:27 ◼   ► thing i want to talk about is this that we find out and when a Bible III don't [TS]

01:25:32 ◼   ► know what other people do with spoilers i came in i didn't know Han and Chewie [TS]

01:25:36 ◼   ► were in the movie because i did watch the first [TS]

01:25:38 ◼   ► a trailer where there's Jimmy were home when they knew they were going to come [TS]

01:25:44 ◼   ► through that door right like II yeah I kind of did you can see the framing and [TS]

01:25:48 ◼   ► you [TS]

01:25:48 ◼   ► yeah and I and I thought it was pretty I thought it was telling that when they [TS]

01:25:53 ◼   ► they thought maybe it was the first order that had boarded them but it they [TS]

01:25:58 ◼   ► didn't clearly show the ship that had taken the Millennium Falcon and so since [TS]

01:26:02 ◼   ► they didn't show it i thought you know this must be well who's going to getting [TS]

01:26:05 ◼   ► sucked in through the front rather than to the belly of its territory as soon as [TS]

01:26:09 ◼   ► a kid this is weird [TS]

01:26:10 ◼   ► yeah clearly wasn't it started somewhere so when it was hot and chewy I wasn't [TS]

01:26:13 ◼   ► surprised and it felt like the movie has gone on long enough without him but what [TS]

01:26:19 ◼   ► about I have to say I really it but more than Han Solo getting killed in the [TS]

01:26:26 ◼   ► movie what bothered me more [TS]

01:26:27 ◼   ► the first time i saw it was the idea that that Hans backstory for this movie [TS]

01:26:34 ◼   ► was that he was separated from Leia obviously for some some significant [TS]

01:26:41 ◼   ► amount of time maybe most of the 30 years or at least a lot of it i think [TS]

01:26:46 ◼   ► they're happy [TS]

01:26:47 ◼   ► I think if fix it about 20 years but really I got it was always obvious that [TS]

01:26:51 ◼   ► they could never be together [TS]

01:26:53 ◼   ► well because they can't they can't stand each other i mean they obviously love [TS]

01:26:56 ◼   ► each other but i just think that you know one of those not meant to be like [TS]

01:27:00 ◼   ► they're not going to like it had screwed something up but yeah I think even if [TS]

01:27:05 ◼   ► even if the son hadn't gotten bad hands could write but even more than being [TS]

01:27:11 ◼   ► separated from Leia even way more actually I was bothered by the idea that [TS]

01:27:16 ◼   ► he and Chewie had lost the Millennium Falcon [TS]

01:27:18 ◼   ► mm I just feel like all right maybe he loses his family you know [TS]

01:27:25 ◼   ► alright that happens that mean that can happen to a guy but there's no way [TS]

01:27:28 ◼   ► there's no way that Han Solo is gonna lose the money so we're gonna get [TS]

01:27:31 ◼   ► divorced but you're gonna hold onto that accurate and you'll be perfectly bad [TS]

01:27:43 ◼   ► first step [TS]

01:27:46 ◼   ► I don't know why I agreed to Florida I like our carpet is not the Millennium [TS]

01:27:51 ◼   ► Falcon of our car was closed and i would say yeah like I kind of thought when [TS]

01:27:57 ◼   ► they boarded that maybe like the idea was going to be that they had planted [TS]

01:28:01 ◼   ► the Millennium Falcon there and that maybe they explained it maybe they [TS]

01:28:05 ◼   ► wouldn't but that it was part of the plan and that's why they picked it up [TS]

01:28:07 ◼   ► because they like left behind the idea that they've gone and she we haven't had [TS]

01:28:11 ◼   ► the falcon for some number of years really bothered me hold on to anything I [TS]

01:28:16 ◼   ► he's not a good person [TS]

01:28:18 ◼   ► I mean it's good person but he's he's not really good at life like he's always [TS]

01:28:24 ◼   ► fly by the seat of his pants right yeah sure um I look like so much of this [TS]

01:28:33 ◼   ► movie at it is it's a matter of movie in so many ways [TS]

01:28:37 ◼   ► um I'm actually not having been on the Falcon and 30 years is because we [TS]

01:28:42 ◼   ► haven't been on the fucking 30 years that's it the reason r2d2 is asleep the [TS]

01:28:47 ◼   ► entire time until after we blow up the Death Star is because r2d2 is the heart [TS]

01:28:51 ◼   ► and soul of the the movies and after we've done the entire first movie again [TS]

01:28:57 ◼   ► by blowing up the Death Star rather than like a medal ceremony we get to see r2d2 [TS]

01:29:02 ◼   ► reboot magically out of that of the ether for no good reason [TS]

01:29:08 ◼   ► oh yeah that's something that John and I spent a lot of time talking about like [TS]

01:29:11 ◼   ► what makes him wake up it's a narrative well ok it's a narrative contract it's [TS]

01:29:16 ◼   ► like r2d2 is the heart of Star Wars and he wakes up [TS]

01:29:20 ◼   ► I like we have two groups two hours are talking about it you're like who cares [TS]

01:29:25 ◼   ► well I think he's right now i think that i think i'd be really ready like I'm not [TS]

01:29:30 ◼   ► it's like whenever I'd like an in-universe excuse i'm sure we can [TS]

01:29:33 ◼   ► I'm sure it's like the briefcase in Pulp Fiction you know what I mean like [TS]

01:29:36 ◼   ► they're not support this man time dwelling on it don't doesn't matter [TS]

01:29:39 ◼   ► right [TS]

01:29:41 ◼   ► I've seen we've seen a Star Wars movie including with the destruction of a [TS]

01:29:45 ◼   ► dexter if you'll be kindled use the movie titled The Force awakens what [TS]

01:29:52 ◼   ► happens for submerged r2d2 awakens and literally tells you see I think it's [TS]

01:29:57 ◼   ► like humans where you go in with Luke [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► look like yeah but I actually think that Luke wake forest didn't him a like [TS]

01:30:07 ◼   ► turned mine in some way I think Luke was like hey you chill out [TS]

01:30:13 ◼   ► july send you a signal and then you have to a signal and you come to life [TS]

01:30:18 ◼   ► yeah yeah that way i use the word doodle for that but yeah so I'd i thinkI in [TS]

01:30:23 ◼   ► university I think in terms of writing the script is like who cares it's like [TS]

01:30:28 ◼   ► 2d to represent something to us and if the fact that we have the new droid bb-8 [TS]

01:30:36 ◼   ► bumper man like want to resurrect him is again meta commentary on like right [TS]

01:30:43 ◼   ► you're right we have to you know we're trying to reboot these old movies were [TS]

01:30:47 ◼   ► trying to get the bag at the whole thing about inheritance and how even just a [TS]

01:30:53 ◼   ► scavenger stuff like that the new people are scavenging parts from the old you [TS]

01:31:02 ◼   ► know from the old vampire or from the old series and they're they're reusing [TS]

01:31:07 ◼   ► them like all of this is you it's alright as well for us to say oh my gosh [TS]

01:31:11 ◼   ► look at that you know look at the old ship or i agree with you i think that [TS]

01:31:15 ◼   ► the whole world just another commentary like did that the movie actually Carol [TS]

01:31:20 ◼   ► movies [TS]

01:31:20 ◼   ► exactly oh that's interesting exactly like the whole thing like it works [TS]

01:31:24 ◼   ► unlike a lot of different levels not that I'm saying like this movie is high [TS]

01:31:27 ◼   ► art or anything but I don't get crazy but but it's I think it would be I think [TS]

01:31:33 ◼   ► it's silly to think of it in terms of like women already made this movie so [TS]

01:31:38 ◼   ► yes [TS]

01:31:39 ◼   ► ok thank you now can we think about why maybe they made these choices and I [TS]

01:31:44 ◼   ► think that the reason they made these choices is you know it's a modern myth [TS]

01:31:50 ◼   ► and retelling a myth is part of being a myth and I'm is certainly [TS]

01:31:59 ◼   ► mountains of scavenging the r2d2 thing like they're acknowledging what has come [TS]

01:32:04 ◼   ► before is a large part of what this movie is about like an intentional [TS]

01:32:11 ◼   ► choice [TS]

01:32:12 ◼   ► here's what I've upon thinking about it after like might set my from initial [TS]

01:32:16 ◼   ► reaction was that it really bothered me that they decided that on it lost the [TS]

01:32:19 ◼   ► Falcon at some point we lost the Falcon that's the thing we write and I green [TS]

01:32:25 ◼   ► III and that works for me but the other thing too is I also really like the idea [TS]

01:32:31 ◼   ► at once it's settled in that rock bottom for Han Solo he still had to bacha like [TS]

01:32:37 ◼   ► like so like the fact that he'd lost the Falcon just showed just how far he's [TS]

01:32:41 ◼   ► fallen and it lends some weight to like your general that Han Solo general solo [TS]

01:32:47 ◼   ► and he says I used to be [TS]

01:32:49 ◼   ► ah I i like it i actually I did it bothered me at first but I unless that [TS]

01:32:55 ◼   ► like it works for work for han Solo and it works for housing for it too [TS]

01:32:59 ◼   ► and the other thing too that really struck me about this movie is it's by [TS]

01:33:03 ◼   ► far and I've always been a fan of Chewbacca and I've always thought that [TS]

01:33:08 ◼   ► Chewbacca is an underrated special effect because to me he's he is the most [TS]

01:33:15 ◼   ► credible unbelievable alien creature in any movie ever made [TS]

01:33:19 ◼   ► Yankee and you just never doubt in and and so many of the effects in the [TS]

01:33:24 ◼   ► original Star Wars they're good but you did they kind of hold up only with [TS]

01:33:29 ◼   ► nostalgia whereas Chewbacca he really he does not look like a man in a suit he [TS]

01:33:34 ◼   ► looks like a Wookiee yeah and I don't know what they did you know like the [TS]

01:33:39 ◼   ► ones that magazine where kids that would have all the fan goriya fangoria fair [TS]

01:33:44 ◼   ► and hasn't and now they're remember finger it [TS]

01:33:48 ◼   ► yeah but like the just the effects that they did to make his mouth not look like [TS]

01:33:52 ◼   ► a human mouth and everything he's always been a super credible alien I loved it [TS]

01:33:57 ◼   ► but this movie to me is by far and away the best Chewbacca movie ever [TS]

01:34:01 ◼   ► it's it he on his own he kinda steal the show and and in terms of just [TS]

01:34:07 ◼   ► emphasizing what an incredible friendship in Han Solo have [TS]

01:34:13 ◼   ► really because I think okay I'm not dwelling on it but I think he got over [TS]

01:34:17 ◼   ► it pretty quickly [TS]

01:34:18 ◼   ► I mean Han Solo got and I think one of the second things I turn to you and said [TS]

01:34:23 ◼   ► after Han Solo dad was oh my god poor chewy after i said why couldn't it have [TS]

01:34:29 ◼   ► been chewy but they did they did a disservice to that I felt like he just [TS]

01:34:34 ◼   ► wasn't the same as you did you learning with that nurse come on it's all died [TS]

01:34:39 ◼   ► no no no that was before I don't like seeing the movie once [TS]

01:34:43 ◼   ► ok that's good that that was before and what yeah that was that was kind of [TS]

01:34:48 ◼   ► adorable [TS]

01:34:49 ◼   ► I'm and adorable everyone was adorable but yeah brother and I feel like I've I [TS]

01:34:55 ◼   ► also knows i feel so she's well he shoots a family member [TS]

01:35:00 ◼   ► right right like very not like that you back we've ever seen [TS]

01:35:05 ◼   ► I he may strangle ando Lando got Han Solo frozen in carbonite and sold to the [TS]

01:35:14 ◼   ► Empire and he talked about and Sonny didn't kill a month site you know shot [TS]

01:35:18 ◼   ► son who han was willing to die to dry rescue and she was like screw you you [TS]

01:35:23 ◼   ► kill Han Solo on shooting it [TS]

01:35:25 ◼   ► yeah yeah friend he got a pretty good do and they spend a lot of time in that [TS]

01:35:29 ◼   ► movie establishing did like that thing hurts right now they did they were like [TS]

01:35:35 ◼   ► hey can I try that and he shot in like two stormtroopers just blow up he didn't [TS]

01:35:39 ◼   ► even hit them and they just blow up they spend a lot of time establishing that [TS]

01:35:44 ◼   ► that thing is the that's that's gonna sting I feel like you guys take this [TS]

01:35:48 ◼   ► like a lot more seriously than i do and you have like some I don't know you have [TS]

01:35:54 ◼   ► them super LA I would have just so but I mean you're actually are broken like you [TS]

01:35:59 ◼   ► now I was telling you and I just was like oh man i texted john right after my [TS]

01:36:06 ◼   ► cancer i think it made me sad [TS]

01:36:09 ◼   ► dr. but not so I know like it really got to me but let's talk about like because [TS]

01:36:13 ◼   ► Jonas got one for christmas let's talk about kylo Ren's lightsaber like why [TS]

01:36:17 ◼   ► does it have like a stick at the bottom that you can cut yourself open with like [TS]

01:36:22 ◼   ► it's got the cross the thing and Jonas still insists that console died [TS]

01:36:26 ◼   ► the crossing like console is not going out with the crossing like he got the [TS]

01:36:30 ◼   ► big and oh I take out on follow with across the end because you know it's [TS]

01:36:37 ◼   ► like a chrono that was pointed right as shit right right [TS]

01:36:40 ◼   ► it's so obvious I'm it's going right to him you dig it but whatever stupid [TS]

01:36:45 ◼   ► kitties are hopeful lovely kid that I'm is my wish i wish i wish i was that [TS]

01:36:51 ◼   ► hopeful that asshole would come back but he's he was so sure and I was just like [TS]

01:36:57 ◼   ► no and stop and then him saying it was getting me more upset here like he I'm [TS]

01:37:03 ◼   ► more emotionally affected by this menu and Jonas was just like it's fine mama [TS]

01:37:09 ◼   ► fine i was that you don't understand i love God's overall I cannot be your [TS]

01:37:14 ◼   ► mother right now and you together with SE los i'm seriously on the way home he [TS]

01:37:19 ◼   ► was like he's fine i was like get out of my face [TS]

01:37:22 ◼   ► get out of my face like it can take it was it was a real ugly scene he didn't [TS]

01:37:26 ◼   ► like it isn't this breaks families apart but why does something have that like [TS]

01:37:31 ◼   ► it's like a half a Darth Maul like at the bottom and it like John and I were [TS]

01:37:36 ◼   ► saying it just seems like you're going to stab yourself his lightsaber makes no [TS]

01:37:40 ◼   ► sense [TS]

01:37:41 ◼   ► my take on it is that the production designers wanted to make an original [TS]

01:37:45 ◼   ► light so they could tell didn't like the darth maul's where they had the [TS]

01:37:49 ◼   ► double-sided but what does which is better than dog model this is weak but [TS]

01:37:53 ◼   ► he had he wielded his like like raise stick like in the middle yeah world and [TS]

01:37:59 ◼   ► stuff like this but this one just has one like I imagined kylo Ren has a whole [TS]

01:38:03 ◼   ► bunch of robes that have like cuts in them because i'll shoot i cut myself [TS]

01:38:07 ◼   ► with my lightsaber because he's not that good at it [TS]

01:38:10 ◼   ► well he does use one of the ages to hurt at finn right [TS]

01:38:15 ◼   ► it just doesn't seem I good practical design is exactly impractical we bought [TS]

01:38:20 ◼   ► one from things working it so that it worked out [TS]

01:38:31 ◼   ► these are the kinds of things that kept me up about this movie is so much about [TS]

01:38:41 ◼   ► this movie that we have any minute Jess didn't play at all [TS]

01:38:45 ◼   ► alright well let's talk about Leia I cried a little when I saw her to got a [TS]

01:38:50 ◼   ► very related how great that scene where on Claire realize my favorite scene in [TS]

01:38:57 ◼   ► the whole thing we're hot and layer are reunited and like it's such a good star [TS]

01:39:02 ◼   ► wars joke and then c-3po pops up and he's like to see column does he call him [TS]

01:39:08 ◼   ► captain solo and then he says and perhaps you don't recognize me because [TS]

01:39:13 ◼   ► of my red it's so funny [TS]

01:39:18 ◼   ► it's so perfect it is I c-3po did not recognize me because of my red arm and [TS]

01:39:26 ◼   ► soul of course recognizes him because he hates them he looks started one of the [TS]

01:39:33 ◼   ► best things about how soldiers that he hasn't just murdered you do . like that [TS]

01:39:39 ◼   ► is the defining character and characteristics between two vodka and [TS]

01:39:43 ◼   ► Han Solo I can't believe he's allowed to live i love c-3po i do i love him he's [TS]

01:39:51 ◼   ► such a fussy little annoying [TS]

01:39:52 ◼   ► there's a bunch of weird stuff have about the droid bb-8 it pierced nose [TS]

01:40:00 ◼   ► capilla actually why wouldn't because they all hang out of the resistance base [TS]

01:40:05 ◼   ► when they're out now on mission fire and yet he uncovers r2d2 and Rubio has to [TS]

01:40:12 ◼   ► explain to bb-8 that r2 d2's asleep say get bb-8 wouldn't know that because he [TS]

01:40:20 ◼   ► has been hanging out for like 20 years now so every time he pokes and nothing [TS]

01:40:26 ◼   ► happened [TS]

01:40:27 ◼   ► well you know what i do i kind of like that boys giving other choice exposition [TS]

01:40:35 ◼   ► exposition doesn't count as like I [TS]

01:40:41 ◼   ► clunky dialogue i guess i don't like why is he telling him this like this this [TS]

01:40:47 ◼   ► little droid shoulda known that like for a long time but because we don't know it [TS]

01:40:52 ◼   ► and we don't have any words coming out of pdx mouth we can we find you know [TS]

01:40:58 ◼   ► like we can just accept it [TS]

01:41:00 ◼   ► here's a scene I did not I'd really didn't care for I did not care for the [TS]

01:41:05 ◼   ► scene on Han and Chewie these new freighter where they have these three [TS]

01:41:10 ◼   ► captured animals and and 22 different pirate crews somehow easily break and [TS]

01:41:17 ◼   ► ship like it i thought it was exactly like what he said like I'm gonna talk my [TS]

01:41:21 ◼   ► way out of this just like I do everything like that was a fun little [TS]

01:41:24 ◼   ► like you care you can add that God [TS]

01:41:29 ◼   ► well I I didn't dislike it it's not like I thought that they should take it out [TS]

01:41:32 ◼   ► but it could cut that nothing would change [TS]

01:41:36 ◼   ► yeah it doesn't really do it doesn't really do anything but I just liked [TS]

01:41:39 ◼   ► being Han Solo like being han Solo [TS]

01:41:42 ◼   ► here's my take on it is that this movie is a beat for beat along with a star [TS]

01:41:51 ◼   ► wars and in Star Wars about mid script they so they get on a ship that is [TS]

01:42:01 ◼   ► called garbage and they get picked up by basically basically like it [TS]

01:42:06 ◼   ► the garbage scow and then they end up fighting tentacle monster all of which [TS]

01:42:11 ◼   ► is like can to fund the government shoot getting into the trash compactor and [TS]

01:42:15 ◼   ► fighting the tentacle monster in Star Wars and so I think b2b they need debt [TS]

01:42:21 ◼   ► they wanted some kind of technical monster at this point in the script and [TS]

01:42:27 ◼   ► but it also established like a trust for Ray and you make gave ray a chance to be [TS]

01:42:32 ◼   ► a badass and like look I love the relationship between han Solo and Ray we [TS]

01:42:38 ◼   ► like so obviously respect her but he's not the kind of person to just say like [TS]

01:42:43 ◼   ► well I think you're great like i don't know i thought i thought it i think it [TS]

01:42:47 ◼   ► had so I think it has some purpose but i don't think that [TS]

01:42:51 ◼   ► a giant cgi technical balls was this necessarily the best way to ya that you [TS]

01:42:59 ◼   ► know like to read it was a bit much [TS]

01:43:01 ◼   ► it was a very JM seemed to me and you also felt a lot more like his Star Trek [TS]

01:43:06 ◼   ► stuff you know like in the one star trek movie where there was the monster [TS]

01:43:09 ◼   ► chasing Kirk on the ice planet it it just felt like that rather than feeling [TS]

01:43:16 ◼   ► like star wars because to me a lot of what makes star wars star wars a lot of [TS]

01:43:20 ◼   ► the way a lot of the time is that the action scenes are sort of allowed to [TS]

01:43:24 ◼   ► breathe and are not like diced up in the editing room as quick quick quick quick [TS]

01:43:29 ◼   ► quick shots [TS]

01:43:30 ◼   ► it's more like the action plays out in the frame and that that scene was to me [TS]

01:43:36 ◼   ► more like a like any current decade science fiction alien movie yet felt a [TS]

01:43:44 ◼   ► bit more modern than I maybe then it wanted to and fin getting dragged away [TS]

01:43:50 ◼   ► and not eaten again that was weird it's weird like why like I don't like that i [TS]

01:43:56 ◼   ► don't understand the motivation the creatures not that I need to necessarily [TS]

01:43:59 ◼   ► understand them but right there like how can there be some guys there like eating [TS]

01:44:04 ◼   ► some guys and like not gonna drag him around for 10 minutes and like you knew [TS]

01:44:08 ◼   ► he wasn't in danger [TS]

01:44:09 ◼   ► look I knew he wasn't going to tell ya now there was one moment I think I maybe [TS]

01:44:13 ◼   ► you even said this to me guy when we were chatting about the movie but that [TS]

01:44:17 ◼   ► there is a wen Han shoved the one bad guy into the aliens mouth [TS]

01:44:24 ◼   ► yeah it was sort of a to me the-the-the-the nod was to the Han shot [TS]

01:44:33 ◼   ► first are get it was sort of and to me maybe not sure if that was me but it [TS]

01:44:38 ◼   ► yeah it was sort of a only fu they gave to George Lucas you know that the whole [TS]

01:44:43 ◼   ► thing to me was pretty respectful of lucas and the prequels and I think it I [TS]

01:44:49 ◼   ► think Amy had hinted at this earlier but to me it was actually to me a very [TS]

01:44:53 ◼   ► kindness that they did the George Lucas that they made kylo Ren so clearly like [TS]

01:44:59 ◼   ► anakin the not the Anakin that I wanted [TS]

01:45:02 ◼   ► Anakin to be but the Anakin that George Lucas wrote in the prequels I it you [TS]

01:45:09 ◼   ► know and then it works yet a difference of Fame they did a better Anakin right [TS]

01:45:13 ◼   ► and Han shoving the guy had the aliens mouth just killing the guy to me was [TS]

01:45:18 ◼   ► like hey Han Solo's the guy whose jobs guys into aliens and doesn't doesn't [TS]

01:45:22 ◼   ► worry about he doesn't wait for them to shoot first [TS]

01:45:25 ◼   ► yeah that guy's just standing there any punches him in the face and then and [TS]

01:45:28 ◼   ► then he takes a step back is like oh wait i can use this guy for something [TS]

01:45:33 ◼   ► more than grabbing the toes into the mouth of it [TS]

01:45:36 ◼   ► did alien I totally needlessly but i do I i do think that kind of establish this [TS]

01:45:46 ◼   ► is character a bit so again so next up though is we're all right i think its [TS]

01:45:56 ◼   ► next right it's after they escaped where they after they get off that freighter [TS]

01:46:01 ◼   ► where ya a blast out into light speed and then and meet masconomet it well no [TS]

01:46:09 ◼   ► but first he says to bb-8 let's see what you've got and he projects the map [TS]

01:46:13 ◼   ► oh yeah and gives the speech you know where where you know right and and [TS]

01:46:19 ◼   ► that's this to me is the point where it really really hit home to me that oh I [TS]

01:46:25 ◼   ► see what they're doing they're remaking the first film but different characters [TS]

01:46:28 ◼   ► are in different roles and it really hit me that Han is the new OB walk [TS]

01:46:34 ◼   ► yeah and standing in the sense but like right he's literally a couple seems [TS]

01:46:37 ◼   ► random anything alcon there will be one gave you know as I call the speech where [TS]

01:46:42 ◼   ► he explains what the forces to the heroes who are going to fill out the [TS]

01:46:48 ◼   ► rest of the trilogy and Han is giving the speech and he does a better job of [TS]

01:46:52 ◼   ► it i mean you know Alec Guinness was great but it's like when Han says you [TS]

01:46:56 ◼   ► know it's all real [TS]

01:46:57 ◼   ► it's like you know I'm fighting back tears like I'm choked up [TS]

01:47:01 ◼   ► yeah well housing for it has the the benefit of knowing the cultural wait [TS]

01:47:08 ◼   ► what he's saying was out dennis is like I going to do another movie about the [TS]

01:47:14 ◼   ► bridge of the required is [TS]

01:47:16 ◼   ► it was pretty great well so there's the speech on the Falcon and i love it and [TS]

01:47:21 ◼   ► it really works and it adds gravity and then just jump back ahead to where he [TS]

01:47:25 ◼   ► dies at the end he dies at the hands of the darth vader character and its [TS]

01:47:30 ◼   ► witnessed by the the new heroes who are younger and she's not just witnessed [TS]

01:47:36 ◼   ► they are incapable of interfering right intervening Act are helpless right there [TS]

01:47:41 ◼   ► helpless all they can do is watch and you know it hits home for the audience [TS]

01:47:50 ◼   ► this time in a way that when obi-wan got killed I will admit when I was a kid I [TS]

01:47:54 ◼   ► remember being surprised and I also remember being confused about the fact [TS]

01:47:57 ◼   ► that he disappeared and i thought well maybe because it's the only guy who gets [TS]

01:48:00 ◼   ► killed by a lightsaber in that movie and I'd this is another one of those things [TS]

01:48:04 ◼   ► where I very distinctly remember you know 1st 2nd grade arguing like whenever [TS]

01:48:09 ◼   ► anybody gets hit with a lightsaber do they just disappear and it wasn't until [TS]

01:48:14 ◼   ► Empire Strikes Back and you got to see Vader cut Luke's hand off that you know [TS]

01:48:19 ◼   ► the no it's just the thing that I just thought that was the Jedi thing because [TS]

01:48:22 ◼   ► we see even a new hope the jerk at the Barbizon travel yeah the only other guy [TS]

01:48:29 ◼   ► who gets killed by lightsabers the guy at the cantina and he didn't die but he [TS]

01:48:33 ◼   ► gets you know well i think you know I think he died [TS]

01:48:36 ◼   ► yeah but you can definitely lost a lot of blood we know it did more snow [TS]

01:48:43 ◼   ► already but i did he had a very bad day [TS]

01:48:46 ◼   ► this is the thing though that I remember thinking and I've always thought but [TS]

01:48:50 ◼   ► even as a little kid I really wasn't that happy with the way that will be one [TS]

01:48:54 ◼   ► went down and I realize what Lucas was going for that he was sacrificing [TS]

01:48:58 ◼   ► himself knowing that by doing this you know that they did luke and the others [TS]

01:49:03 ◼   ► could escape on the Falcon and that it was supposed to be some kind of symbolic [TS]

01:49:07 ◼   ► like zen-like state that he had reached that he was you know he's gonna reach [TS]

01:49:12 ◼   ► like some kind of higher plane of existence about loves em like smile on [TS]

01:49:16 ◼   ► its face it bothered me though I was like why not fight white maybe you could [TS]

01:49:20 ◼   ► beat this Darth Vader why did that's the thing know it bothered me [TS]

01:49:25 ◼   ► that he had it but at the end of Jedi that's exactly what how Luke wins now i [TS]

01:49:33 ◼   ► agree but I wanted me to defeat Vader and then just like okay look at I'm done [TS]

01:49:38 ◼   ► you have to kill me [TS]

01:49:40 ◼   ► you're gonna kill me whereas hon sacrifice here and letting letting this [TS]

01:49:44 ◼   ► guy letting kylo Ren killing me was that it was way more believable than then [TS]

01:49:51 ◼   ► obi-wan are not believable but to me it was more satisfying than moppy once and [TS]

01:49:55 ◼   ► I i know amy disagrees [TS]

01:49:58 ◼   ► yeah but i really do think it's satisfying i just i found nothing [TS]

01:50:03 ◼   ► satisfying about it [TS]

01:50:05 ◼   ► well okay okay we're not gonna let let's not so all be warned i was surprised to [TS]

01:50:12 ◼   ► it didn't make a lot of sense didn't register to me over the years have come [TS]

01:50:17 ◼   ► to kind of maybe even rationalize it [TS]

01:50:19 ◼   ► maybe I'm like maybe Star Wars is warped my brain enough time like now that's the [TS]

01:50:26 ◼   ► framework that I see things in and like I think of that kind of makes sense the [TS]

01:50:35 ◼   ► way I'm Soledad I think he's gonna die right at some point right right but it [TS]

01:50:44 ◼   ► was just me it was like this whole culmination of oh my gosh Star Wars is [TS]

01:50:48 ◼   ► back and oh my god this movie is fantastic and then oh my god they just [TS]

01:50:52 ◼   ► killed like a childhood hero like with obi-wan I was not as invested you know I [TS]

01:50:56 ◼   ► was a young kid yeah just I wasn't as invested and I just and as a young kid I [TS]

01:51:01 ◼   ► was like wow he's always gonna die anyway I'm they did they didn't kill Han [TS]

01:51:09 ◼   ► Han died making a choice right like he knew Jesus you can see the look on his [TS]

01:51:17 ◼   ► face before he like he's hiding me and that column also by the way [TS]

01:51:23 ◼   ► keller and not very good at using the force because what the hell like let me [TS]

01:51:29 ◼   ► see what you expected that what I feel and realizing this guy together behind [TS]

01:51:33 ◼   ► you [TS]

01:51:33 ◼   ► like come on like you an idiot anyway the girl never heard of the force he [TS]

01:51:39 ◼   ► seems alright hold on to hold that thought let's come back to let me just [TS]

01:51:43 ◼   ► finish up here and we got to get some of these other guests on the show I see him [TS]

01:51:46 ◼   ► sitting there in this guy will get a monsoon but I have one more sponsor to [TS]

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01:52:48 ◼   ► disaster strikes [TS]

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01:53:04 ◼   ► what if you only need one file you just happen to be out of the house [TS]

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01:53:21 ◼   ► a web browser you can access any of the files that are backed up a huge [TS]

01:53:27 ◼   ► proportion of the stuff that they that they restored to users is just one file [TS]

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01:54:04 ◼   ► point so my thanks to their longtime sponsors of the show i use them [TS]

01:54:08 ◼   ► personally [TS]

01:54:09 ◼   ► great service you did that without any notes that was really impressive i am [TS]

01:54:15 ◼   ► going to be nice to you because it's the last day of the year [TS]

01:54:18 ◼   ► that's the one day of the year it's his day [TS]

01:54:23 ◼   ► what about the fact that hot and what about the fact that han and Leia well [TS]

01:54:26 ◼   ► we're going to talk about the late superfight but here's a question what [TS]

01:54:29 ◼   ► about the fact that han and Leia don't kiss is that like that's a realistic / [TS]

01:54:33 ◼   ► portrayal of La they don't you know what they don't say we got divorced I love [TS]

01:54:37 ◼   ► you [TS]

01:54:38 ◼   ► yeah because you don't want a deep affection but they're not know they love [TS]

01:54:43 ◼   ► each other [TS]

01:54:44 ◼   ► it's fine it did they don't it's it's at you know you don't need to say it at [TS]

01:54:50 ◼   ► that . like it's not a haven't seen each other for a long time a seventh son is [TS]

01:54:58 ◼   ► that primary concern and so even able it's like I didn't want to get to be a [TS]

01:55:04 ◼   ► part I didn't want them to have broken up but I believed it like Amy said like [TS]

01:55:09 ◼   ► I just I do kind of believe that could work there just to halt at all and [TS]

01:55:14 ◼   ► they're both too used to being in charge [TS]

01:55:16 ◼   ► yeah i mean one who doesn't want to be and Sola who doesn't want to be [TS]

01:55:21 ◼   ► principally I spent my whole life [TS]

01:55:24 ◼   ► sure yeah i mean i wanted to be Princess Leia I wanted to be a combination of [TS]

01:55:28 ◼   ► Princess Leia Rizzo from grease and pinky Tuscadero from happy [TS]

01:55:31 ◼   ► hey this is so dating me yeah you know what you know for a coffee [TS]

01:55:36 ◼   ► he didn't pretty good i really really wanted to be here [TS]

01:55:42 ◼   ► alright so here's what we've been a hot you know [TS]

01:55:46 ◼   ► come on Hans gonna screw it up and introduce I i believe in actually and I [TS]

01:55:49 ◼   ► I thought that was gonna screw it up and you know what she's not gonna take it [TS]

01:55:53 ◼   ► like that exactly she's not gonna be like well let on behind she's gonna say [TS]

01:55:57 ◼   ► screw you [TS]

01:55:58 ◼   ► about right I feel like if they would have like you know like I feel like he [TS]

01:56:03 ◼   ► missed her way more than she missed him i plied i agree with that [TS]

01:56:07 ◼   ► definitely yeah and I said well that's when he keeps running right right she's [TS]

01:56:13 ◼   ► not scared to get off that troop transport and say hi to him and he's [TS]

01:56:17 ◼   ► like get ok that it doesn't like it when I get hey it doesn't want to see me [TS]

01:56:22 ◼   ► yeah he's like yeah he goes to see your mom's kannada to get the droid back to [TS]

01:56:27 ◼   ► the resistance because he's scared of facing Leia well alright here's the [TS]

01:56:34 ◼   ► here's the last two things I want to talk about I want to talk about maz [TS]

01:56:36 ◼   ► kanata's what's-her-name to knock out Mama's I'll just call her mom want to [TS]

01:56:41 ◼   ► talk about that and maybe going out there and then I want to talk about the [TS]

01:56:44 ◼   ► lightsaber fight at the end and with don't care which order which way it will [TS]

01:56:49 ◼   ► go in chronological order so we'll talk about mods first I felt like that was [TS]

01:56:53 ◼   ► probably the worst scene of the movie is that it just felt I the potential was [TS]

01:56:59 ◼   ► there and I like the ID the whole idea of it but it just didn't it just didn't [TS]

01:57:04 ◼   ► seem right [TS]

01:57:06 ◼   ► I'm not sure why she's ej character well yeah I found her very distracting i [TS]

01:57:10 ◼   ► found that character distracting because she just looked out of place she looked [TS]

01:57:14 ◼   ► like one of the characters from the prequels like yeah right right and she's [TS]

01:57:18 ◼   ► an amazing actress I think maybe they're trying to go for the yoga thing but it [TS]

01:57:21 ◼   ► was like yeah yes she was trying to give like a Yoda vibe and i have met [TS]

01:57:26 ◼   ► actresses like tall and slender like it's very didn't have co2 they can ya [TS]

01:57:31 ◼   ► heard [TS]

01:57:32 ◼   ► you know it's like it in the now that I'm not afraid of spoilers looking into [TS]

01:57:36 ◼   ► it that whole scene was rewritten and that the the actress who played how to [TS]

01:57:41 ◼   ► come in and rerecord all over lines that like her way it was originally written [TS]

01:57:44 ◼   ► was different like to the point where at one point she says you know I'm no Jedi [TS]

01:57:55 ◼   ► but I know I I know the force and that apparently in earlier drafts that was [TS]

01:57:59 ◼   ► more clear that she had the force in that [TS]

01:58:03 ◼   ► I actually just ordered the book Renee was on this show the previous episode to [TS]

01:58:09 ◼   ► this and Renee told me about this book the the making of star wars the force [TS]

01:58:12 ◼   ► awakens so i ordered the book but one of the things in the book it you know has [TS]

01:58:16 ◼   ► all these effects shots and stuff like that including some that aren't being [TS]

01:58:20 ◼   ► over cut from the movie but apparently one of the scenes that was cut was in [TS]

01:58:24 ◼   ► the Battle that breaks out you know after the show on her planet when the [TS]

01:58:30 ◼   ► tie fighters are busting up her bar and everything [TS]

01:58:34 ◼   ► there's like a part of the building is going to topple and might hit fin or [TS]

01:58:38 ◼   ► something like that and she uses the Force to like keep the blocks from [TS]

01:58:42 ◼   ► hitting him huh made more sense because what she just did like a Jedi groupie [TS]

01:58:47 ◼   ► like why does she know so much about it and it would make more sense [TS]

01:58:53 ◼   ► well I'm okay with her just being a scholar of the force sensitive i guess [TS]

01:58:59 ◼   ► like having all the weird for streams and like being in tune with that kind of [TS]

01:59:04 ◼   ► want them part of it with the other thing I've read when i looked up who max [TS]

01:59:08 ◼   ► max von sydow his character is this lor san tekka at least I mean who knows [TS]

01:59:14 ◼   ► because the it's max and sedo like safety just be named that character well [TS]

01:59:18 ◼   ► in his character is apparently according to the wikipedia is a he's like a but a [TS]

01:59:26 ◼   ► priest in the church of the force or something like that and so they're not [TS]

01:59:30 ◼   ► Jedi but they're like it's like another sect of good guys who use the Force and [TS]

01:59:36 ◼   ► I think it's similar to the way that these Knights of Ren aren't Sith but [TS]

01:59:40 ◼   ► they are bad guys who use the dark side of the force and the just I've gotten [TS]

01:59:47 ◼   ► from this is that in this you know they're there broadening the view the [TS]

01:59:50 ◼   ► galaxy and the force to the point where it's you know [TS]

01:59:53 ◼   ► yes there are Jedi and their sixth or there were at least maybe the third dead [TS]

01:59:57 ◼   ► but that they're not the only two groups that [TS]

01:59:57 ◼   ► but that they're not the only two groups that [TS]

02:00:00 ◼   ► use the Force I don't know but it seemed to me like this [TS]

02:00:04 ◼   ► Maz was clearly supposed to be somehow you know and that's how she got the [TS]

02:00:08 ◼   ► lightsaber that she's you know she's got the force in some way but it just the [TS]

02:00:15 ◼   ► way that it came out on screen just felt like blah right there is no explanation [TS]

02:00:21 ◼   ► yeah definitely didn't really them and I did love that flashback scene there [TS]

02:00:28 ◼   ► flash back forward sideways whatever the hell that was like that the force dream [TS]

02:00:35 ◼   ► that David she three first touches it right yeah yeah I feel like there's a [TS]

02:00:40 ◼   ► lot of secrets in there like there's a yeah there's somebody there is i guess [TS]

02:00:45 ◼   ► i'll put a link to and show notes but I was probably more but somebody I god [TS]

02:00:50 ◼   ► bless them but I I you know somebody like obviously was videotaping the whole [TS]

02:00:55 ◼   ► thing on their iPhone and posted a whole bunch of pictures to read it or [TS]

02:01:00 ◼   ► somewhere but there's a whole bunch of stuff in there including the fact that [TS]

02:01:03 ◼   ► it's you know at one point when you hear her name called out its obi-wan Kenobi [TS]

02:01:09 ◼   ► Kenobi call yeah yeah yeah that's it [TS]

02:01:15 ◼   ► that being said to move so everyone can know because that Ray and it's actually [TS]

02:01:20 ◼   ► Alec Guinness voice right did youdid you john told me this story but if you try [TS]

02:01:26 ◼   ► to remember where you heard it at like a so JJ Abrams was that some kind of oh [TS]

02:01:31 ◼   ► yeah it was JJ yeah okay so it was again in public so yeah again it was on page [TS]

02:01:36 ◼   ► and like a screenwriter guild event for the force awakens and JJ said that they [TS]

02:01:41 ◼   ► they brought in [TS]

02:01:44 ◼   ► what's that was the young obi-wan what's-his-name room where the most [TS]

02:01:48 ◼   ► recent one is the guy did finally a one-word you and mcgregor doing McGregor [TS]

02:01:53 ◼   ► well whatever the date so the guy did it for the cloning was recorded it all [TS]

02:01:58 ◼   ► first [TS]

02:01:59 ◼   ► yes so the guy had income was quick he gradually got replaced and it's like [TS]

02:02:04 ◼   ► anyway they got you in mcgregor and so they were going to throw out the clone [TS]

02:02:08 ◼   ► war guys thing and using the Gregor's and then some of the sound guys found an [TS]

02:02:13 ◼   ► old clip of Alec Guinness where he said forget what the trade was afraid right [TS]

02:02:20 ◼   ► he was saying the word grade and they you know I don't even think from Star [TS]

02:02:25 ◼   ► Wars gotta switch on but yeah who knows but they found Alec Guinness saying the [TS]

02:02:30 ◼   ► word afraid and clipped it and that just the the rape part of the word afraid it [TS]

02:02:35 ◼   ► not only was Alec Guinness his voice like JJ said it was exactly the way I [TS]

02:02:39 ◼   ► would have if I could direct him to say it was exactly the way I would tell them [TS]

02:02:43 ◼   ► to say ray they mix it well yeah so they make yet you and measures just sort of [TS]

02:02:48 ◼   ► get like 10 right no well it could get into that a bit they had friends come in [TS]

02:02:54 ◼   ► to do the unit beginning what was the yoda bit at the like right when she [TS]

02:03:03 ◼   ► starts tripping balls he says something about and she hears your to say [TS]

02:03:09 ◼   ► something but like oh it binds us [TS]

02:03:10 ◼   ► it surrounds us all right like that kind of like forced like the beginning of the [TS]

02:03:15 ◼   ► for speech that she added the yarder gives so here's a question Empire do you [TS]

02:03:21 ◼   ► think that the like in the next movie now that would Luke is back [TS]

02:03:26 ◼   ► do you think Luke can still communicate with obi-wan and Yoda or is there like a [TS]

02:03:31 ◼   ► like a time limit you know like like after your age I even if you know the [TS]

02:03:36 ◼   ► trick that those guys know where you can still communicate with other Jedi after [TS]

02:03:40 ◼   ► you died [TS]

02:03:41 ◼   ► is there like you know as the years go on it gets weaker and weaker you know [TS]

02:03:45 ◼   ► like a battery running out or something where I think we were most likely to [TS]

02:03:50 ◼   ► find Luke broken [TS]

02:03:51 ◼   ► I think he's a terrible alcoholic yeah i do I think and it's not alcohol it's [TS]

02:03:57 ◼   ► like just a like he's a meditation how that could could you with you there's [TS]

02:04:01 ◼   ► like a lot and yoga whatever he does he had he not [TS]

02:04:05 ◼   ► yeah no I think he's broken i mean you can tell by that last scene worries [TS]

02:04:13 ◼   ► well first of all he just run away and disengaged [TS]

02:04:16 ◼   ► yeah it seemed like they could really use no way am I think it really is [TS]

02:04:21 ◼   ► help yeah you think little bit and he's just not involved and I i think i think [TS]

02:04:29 ◼   ► ray and him are going to rehabilitate each other in some kind of way he's [TS]

02:04:35 ◼   ► gonna be the yoda yeah it's gonna be a DoD and that's going to give him I i I [TS]

02:04:42 ◼   ► don't I don't know I kind of think that each one of these movies is gonna kill [TS]

02:04:47 ◼   ► off on every old people have had hand go a later Luke is gonna be next and then [TS]

02:04:54 ◼   ► his left will be the last one can Leia we can't go i don't think you can kill [TS]

02:05:00 ◼   ► Luke oh you gotta kill Luke we can kill me the next movement kind of right now [TS]

02:05:04 ◼   ► what about all right why don't you can you hand solo is here you can't kill and [TS]

02:05:12 ◼   ► exactly party [TS]

02:05:14 ◼   ► what about the fact that they they're only going to make three of these and I [TS]

02:05:19 ◼   ► know there's there's these offshoot movies you know there's going to be a [TS]

02:05:22 ◼   ► boba fett movie and ya gonna be able seven is also Jung Han Solo on land [TS]

02:05:27 ◼   ► owned which i think sounds like a disaster i think i'd just do it like [TS]

02:05:31 ◼   ► yeah I know I don't even get river phoenix to play [TS]

02:05:38 ◼   ► I'm just saying you can't get him he's not and he's like it was totally his [TS]

02:05:47 ◼   ► asian picking up the phone but what about the fact that they they're only [TS]

02:05:52 ◼   ► going to make three there's episodes 789 they're only going to make three he was [TS]

02:05:57 ◼   ► available but they decided like for the interest of drama and secrecy that Luke [TS]

02:06:04 ◼   ► literally only appears in like 30 seconds the last 30 seconds of the film [TS]

02:06:07 ◼   ► and doesn't have a line was it a wasted opportunity [TS]

02:06:11 ◼   ► no no no they used them exactly what they wanted to use them i think [TS]

02:06:17 ◼   ► I think they used him well he is the again getting back to the metal thing [TS]

02:06:23 ◼   ► Luke Skywalker has been our hero in the mean effectively ended the three movies [TS]

02:06:28 ◼   ► that matter like the original trilogy and this movie is about resetting [TS]

02:06:35 ◼   ► everything and getting us back to to you know to every word to be finding what it [TS]

02:06:44 ◼   ► is to be star wars fans that's why artoo wakes up and then we have like a five [TS]

02:06:50 ◼   ► minute and then you MA and then we have Ray our new hero handing the baton [TS]

02:06:59 ◼   ► little lick and I've said this before tea John but like literally it's a baton [TS]

02:07:03 ◼   ► like it it's like you can't make it more obviously trying to hand the baton back [TS]

02:07:08 ◼   ► to luke and I think that's just a visual storytelling very metaphorical I you [TS]

02:07:20 ◼   ► know trying to bring back like it it's a it's passing the baton from they all go [TS]

02:07:25 ◼   ► to the new girl but its flipped on its head kind of video no optimistic i think [TS]

02:07:30 ◼   ► mark hamill just needs more acting lessons they were like just turn around [TS]

02:07:33 ◼   ► at the end thats good didn't he got it [TS]

02:07:36 ◼   ► yes Lee he works a lot he's just like a lot of voice work he's on TV [TS]

02:07:41 ◼   ► yes the Joker in the enemy batman animated yeah week any in the video [TS]