137: ‘Peak Rumor Season’, With Special Guest John Moltz
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we've got rumors to talk about I love rumors and then this is you know what I
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was thinking man this is sort of like I think this is the the the fall season
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here that you know november december this is like peak summer season because
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nothing's coming out soon but there are you know Apple must be working on stuff
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for next year and beyond and so now is the time when the rumors start coming
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out the big one i've seen that one it's got everybody in a tizzy is you know
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which one it is right
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yes which one is it it's the headphone jack exactly right
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very add the remaining is roomy Jack rate yes so the standard 3.5 millimeter
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had contacted been in every device that I'm aware of for a long time is
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supposedly says one report who had originally aired let's see what the
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Japanese rumors overrated some chatter of well-known to rumors I but published
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so MacRumors right it's Mac or Dakara which MacRumors described as often
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reliable often well in this scheme of like publishing these things from the
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supply chain in a jet often reliable if you say it with a straight face is
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actually a high praise
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I praise but it was it was not sourced from DigiTimes rate know it's there
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their road they didn't get it from digital know their report cited a quote
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reliable source and I guess so it says here's here's MacRumors translation of
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it or or interpretation I guess I should say the report citing a quote reliable
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source end quote
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claims the new same sized lightning connector will support Leighton equipped
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and Bluetooth headphones and have a DAC or a digital to Audio Converter for
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backwards compatibility with wired headphones using a standard 3.5 metres
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stereo jack a 3.5 millimeter to lightning adapter would be required so
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they I guess the gist of it the way I interpret this and I don't think it's
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entirely clear the way I just interpreted is that they're not
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replacing the headphone jack with a new proprietary Jack they are simply getting
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rid of the headphone jack and you'll just have to plug in to the lightning
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adapter that's already there or use blues or use but I don't see why this
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report says that the new lightning connector has anything to do with
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Bluetooth doesn't seem like no idea and I think that's a mistake that's what I
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mean about it being a little confusing I think what they mean is that you you
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know your options will be to either plug in headphones with a lightning connector
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a be used a new dog old that doesn't exist yet you're sticking in lightning
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port and then you'll stick regular headphones into this dongle or see
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you'll switch to bluetooth headphones or D throw your phone in the river and go
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back to blackberry I guess the other option would be to this will be a great
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time for blackberry to come out and proclaimed their support for the 3.5
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millimeter this is another option and I love it I really do I deeply enjoy it
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when other people small children do this on let's say a train or something is you
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could just use the speakers
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when the device that's perfect
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pumped up to a loud enough volume 22 over you overtake the center of the jet
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airliner that you're right and who need headphones so but the whole of the whole
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thing so this this is portrayed as which you know the first of all this is not
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the first time we've heard this rumor well and I think this this Louis bloated
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also break before the the six remember correctly I think it started it started
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though it when lightning debut because lightning has always supported audio
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late you can go and you can buy they exist today in fact that Phillips
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there's a peres Phillips ones here in this screenshot MacRumors has you can by
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lightning connector had fun today
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existing lightning port can support obviously you can do that right now
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today that's not like anything I think that what they're saying so in terms of
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what they're saying about this so-called iPhone seven having a new bike next
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generation lightening jack
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you know the female side would be the that includes a digital audio converter
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I don't know though why the dongle wouldn't do the digital audio conversion
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but anyway that's what they're saying so I think right now so this is where I
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could be wrong I could be definitely wrong about this this could be something
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that maybe the dongle would work on our existing iPhones but I think what
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they're saying is that to use standard headphones through the dongle and
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lightning would require this iPhone seven lightning port because it would
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include the digital audio converter inside but otherwise I don't think
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anything any of this is new you know it the fact that lightning can handle audio
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isn't definitely not know you can buy these headphones today and using on your
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phone today and that the rumors started as soon as that became clear that why
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else would they do it unless they planting a tree with the 3.5 at some
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it was also there is also a smaller Jack than 3.5 million her check that used to
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be used in japan for years because I remember I thought when I was in Japan I
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accidentally bought a pair of headphones to go home and went to put them on my my
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Walkman or whatever it was great but when I think the reason the reason it
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was exactly that was that was smaller so smaller devices so many jokes but I
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can't I can't I can't I can't I can't think of any folks stem from the now
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there's nothing nothing to be said anyway people are some people are very
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very upset about this they are and and however much controversy there was when
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Apple switch from 32 30 pin dock connector to the lightning adapter and
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people accused Apple of you know doing this just to get people to buy more more
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everyday out that it was a money grab this is the accusation that it was a
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money grab I think you and I have talked about this multiple times that it was a
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money grab and they wanted to sell new cables they want you to buy new docs
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they wanted you to buy their little I think it was $19 the little just the
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little adapter that lets you switch 30 pin thing into a lightning I think it
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was nineteen wasn't that much of what that was at the head from price know yet
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that was maybe it was twenty headphones are something like thirty yeah and I i
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laugh about this I laughter people are upset and I but I understand the
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frustration you know I just laugh at how how hard people take this well yeah so
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the the thing that it's portrayed as tradeoff for his is getting a thinner
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iPhone right yeah that's the only so it and everyone says I don't want to arrive
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which I mean I don't need a thinner iPhone but in fairness you haven't seen
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you might you might really like him well and as home and here it is I looked it
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up on the stored on apple.com the lightning to 30 pin adapter cable just
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the little adapter right now it sells for $29
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$29 yeah and the lightning to 30 pin adapter that's more of a cable is thirty
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$39 it's got a point to meter cable so it's it's a rather twenty centimeter
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cable and that's that
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$39 I do get the reservation it does seem to me it seems very clear to me and
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it just seems funny that always comes up when you're on the show that there's a
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sort of aspect of you know let's spend Tim Cook's money that these things
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should be cheaper and that whatever money they make from them they would
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gain and good well by making them if not giving them away
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you know coming as close to giving them away as they can't that if they sold
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them at cost and presumably it costs a lot less than $29 to make this dongle
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would they would make up for it and goodwill
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they're not interested in that
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well I think maybe he would make them the pill easier to swallow you know I
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don't know that people would be completely if you're if you're heavily
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invested in in that jack and i think you know me I think some people are I'm not
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I wouldn't say that I am particularly I do have many headphones that i wear with
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that jack but I mostly use them for podcasting and so I put him into a
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microphone and uni mostly and I'm you know I'm not an audio file so I mostly
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use Apple's headphones and when I'm using my iPhone and I and then I also
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have a pair of Bluetooth headphones that I use for exercising so it wouldn't
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really changed my life that much it's a it's just I just find it a fun thing to
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talk about on the show because it is it's such a petty little thing in the
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grand scheme of things if you really think about it right it's just not that
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big a deal in the life of a iPhone user but there's so many like implications of
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a change like this that makes it fun to think about the tradeoffs on Apple's
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part so let's tackle some of these applications of the audio jack so one of
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them like you said that the idea would be that would be motivated to do this
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because it would allow them to make the device dinner that at this point 3.5
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millimeters just for the court alone is significant you know it's it's it's a
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constrained given them
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millimeter thickness of these devices obviously there's existent proof that
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they can make dinner devices that still have that port like the the iPod Touch
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the current generation iPod Touch is like a fool millimeter thinner than the
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iPhone success as a really yeah ok actually both here but their cases
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almost like it's like the iPhone 6 assets like 6.9
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touches like 6.1 and still has a standard audio port and the the iPod
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Nano is even thinner still and still has the regular audio port but as some
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people on Twitter of pointed out like if you look at the iPod Nano
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the fall link that takes the depth that the headphone jack has to go into the
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court said it doesn't actually go underneath the screen at all there's a
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good chance you know so it's not it's not like it also has to fit underneath
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the screen where I think it does on the iPhone so then this is definitely it's
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certainly one of the angles I don't think it means that they couldn't make
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an iPhone seven and keep the jack it's just probably makes it easier it's one
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less thing to put in and I think I think that the depth of the the jack is
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actually more of a problem than the thickness of the fact that the standard
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audio port has to go so far in this show could be torn apart a political attack
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ad against there's not a lot like what what do you think would happen if they
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said we're taking out there taking out the jacket because we want to put more
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battery
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that would be hosting thing for them to say so we take out yeah we take out the
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audio jack and you'll get another hour and a half of battery be interesting way
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to justify instead of saying it's going to be even thinner right because saying
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that it's even thinner really only seems to satisfy Apple's internal obsession
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with device then this and and it could well be that it's more than just the the
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taste of johnnie I've and his team and whoever else is there that they want
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these devices that they value thinness over the battery life that could be
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gained by just making the device thicker or keeping it then this of the instead
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of making it a stint as they possibly can to get the same battery life as the
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previous generation what if they kept the same thickness as the device
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thicknesses the previous generation but use their newfound ability to
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miniaturize and then things to just create more room for a better rate
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that's that's the that the thing that some people a lot of people seem to want
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could well be that Apple has internal marketing like data like you know that
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suggests if not proves that given the choice in a store people will choose the
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thinner device and that there may be as much as many of us think that people
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would be happier with the thicker device that gets longer battery life album
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might have some knowledge to know that at the point of sale people are going to
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buy the center line and I would expose them to hell yeah I wouldn't be
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surprised by that really because I don't think it's not like this for me anymore
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about it that used to be the one thing when I looked it years ago when I looked
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at Android phones I thought wow it was really cool to have a phone numbers that
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Samsung has one you know it's one of the galaxies it's not the flagship is the
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flagship one has higher specs and can't be that then but there's one of the
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current galaxy phones somebody I saw somebody claim is only five point nine
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millimeters
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so Samsung's you know in a race first in this too and it don't forget that these
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are the sort of decisions that when Apple makes now for next year if they
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stick to the current plan of using the same hardware for two years
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you know basic hardware profile for two years with a seven next year and then
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the 7s the year after that that if they make a mistake here and go thicker and
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Samsung goes way thinner and it proves to be ahead they could be the same sort
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of thing that happened with larger screen sizes few years ago where larger
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screen sizes clearly were selling phones and you know there is even we have is
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one of those rare things that we have proof of because it came out in the
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court case one of the court cases with Samsung weather is like an email I think
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might have even been from Schiller himself but it was certainly from some
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of the insurers team there was an internal email at Apple that said people
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some people want what we don't have a larger screen front and they can't just
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scramble and come out with a new phone next month with a bigger screen these
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things are you know have to your lead times maybe even longer so if Apple's
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you know thanks
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or maybe even knows that then the cells and that they certainly know that
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Samsung is capable of making devices that are then if not other companies too
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they may not wanna you know they may not wanna do this even if they also know
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that customer satisfaction wise after they've already purchased the phone if
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it had the longer battery life of a thicker thing people would be a peer
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yeah it's just strange though to see lots of people saying that they don't
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want something that obviously this is presented as you gonna get rid of this
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in order to get that if they came out just said it was gonna be a thinner
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phone you probably go slightly different reaction without the jack but it seems
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like they used to be like here are the things that they might be coming in the
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next iPhone and everyone would be pretty excited about those things
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with the exception of lighting and i feel like i feel like i don't i don't
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necessarily know I don't feel like I'm that excited about dinner phone at this
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point and I you know we've had this discussion before too I would rather
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have a smaller font yeah it may not just be about genocide less so I think I say
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it could be it could help and maybe that would help with battery life too but
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there are other factors to like even if you could just keep this just concede
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for the moment that they could go as thin as they want to and still keep the
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other jack that whatever they're they're planning for for the iPhone seven it
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could accommodate 3.5 millimeter headphone jack
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I don't know if that's true but let's just conceded for the moment it's also
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another point of you know potential water damage
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you know one less port is one lens one less thing to have to try to protect
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against you know water getting in there having two ports definitely takes more
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space inside the device then one part that does both things I mean that's just
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mean that just like an obvious fact so in other ways other than tennis in my
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you know like you said batteries one life who knows what else they could use
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that password but they could certainly you know they certainly take advantage
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of every bit of space that they can't yeah
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I don't know what the problem is like she's charging I mean everybody's right
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but weird and I do this i do this sometimes report that charging desk and
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listening to something and having to find a dongle yeah that nobody really
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wants a dog like a wide after dongle might be a good idea would be an even
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even if you're on board late on the one hand if you wanna stick with your
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dongle you know to go 3.52 lightning and it can't be a tiny little dog because we
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know how long the adapter is on the headphones and looking at it right now
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yeah that's you know at a minimum like it's you know that that small so you got
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this thing sticking out your found plus the actual cable itself from the
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headphones so it's you know
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headphones which presumably Apple would ship with the device and other companies
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are you making if you want to charge in use at the same time do you still need
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headphones and I remember that would work
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yeah unless you have inductive charging right and I fully concede one of the
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things this is just one of those things where i just i just i just like to sit
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like me trying to justify it and thinking of the reasons Apple might
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wanna do it isn't me saying I think this is a great idea I'm not sure I think
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it's interesting because there's so many critics but they're needing to charge or
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wanting to charge while you listen with headphones is absolutely positively a
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real thing I see my son doing it all the time his device devices seem to all live
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in like the best charge they never seem to get put him in the yellow
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yeah I think I mean so even just since this rumor popped up I've spotted Jonas
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at least twice using his I think we both sides of his iPad but using his iPad
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with headphones watching video while it was charging so I fully concede that is
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not just something people want to do it something people would have to do black
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to go out black screen of a dead I bet I so I don't know how Apple solves it may
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be the answer is of course that they don't and that this whole story is
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bullshit and they're they're not getting rid of the separate and that's the end
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that's the other thing that's kind of ridiculous about this thing because it
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has really been widely discussed and it is all based off this one this one
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so inside Apple there's somebody you know some team that clearly already
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already been made and they're they're they're laughing 12 either way they're
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laughing like if there is an iPhone if there is a regular good old-fashioned
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3.5 millimeter headphone jack on the iPhone 78 sure the team inside Apple is
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laughing at all the third thought that we're all putting into this and all the
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consternation out there on the web and if there's not they're they're least
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chuckling at the people who say there's no way they would do this it would make
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everybody to furious there are no stranger to controversy so it's it's
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funny though because it is clearly controversial and it's like there's
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something about our poll that makes them on you know one of the ways that Apple
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is clearly different than other companies is there the only company
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however seems to face these things I never see I for one thing the other
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companies tend to keep legacy ports around almost as long as they can as
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opposed to looking for a way to get rid of legacy ports that look for a way to
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keep them going as long as they can they don't want to lose that one extra sale
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and and then even when they do I don't know how they escaped the criticism like
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Android phones iPhones have gone from an endless if you for the sake of an
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argument if you just count the iPod as I guess sibling predecessor to the iPhone
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they've gone through two ports ever 30 Penn starting with the original iPod to
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know the first the first one under fire we're alright so it was the same on the
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fire under 30 pin end but it was only Firewire and other but will cut you know
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you needed a new cable so we'll call that we know it was a no the original
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iPod was fire on both ends
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oh my god you're right yeah you're so there are alright so here's the changes
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they've gone through from including all the hype
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the one with the first was firewire firewire then they went 30 pin FireWire
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and then it was 30 pin to USB but if you just made like a clock radio that had 30
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pin think it would work with whatever your iPod was and then lightning other
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devices like USB went through I forget the names of them but there's like sort
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of the thicker mini USB then there's the thinner new micro USB there is like many
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USB Micro USB and now yes BC which is nice because it's like lightning and you
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can you can't put it in upside down it works both directions for some reason
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when they switch they don't get they don't get the controversy yeah that
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obviously to make me laugh because people in the end result would make fun
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of Apple for reports mentioned yeah and it's like i i I know some people are
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saying but Apple's only one who tries to gouge you for $29 for an adapter but you
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know in short order you can go to you know Amazon or monoprice for example and
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get high-quality adapter thats not made by Apple for a reasonable price so I
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mean you can make the transition and that's there is the only places that
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people on a hundred by cables and stuff like that so the fact that Apple's first
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party adapters and all girls are seemingly zorba nightly price doesn't
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really make things worse for anybody is sensitive to that just goes to Amazon
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Amazona some obscure company that nobody's heard of it it might be
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slightly cheaper here USB adapters my because because the other ones that the
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other ones somebody has to license from Apple license one end from Apple right
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but there's other
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it still gets down to the point where it's ok you know we're still talking
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about like 10 books there's other hassles involved though like that I've
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an end all reasonable I mean these are all reasonable complaints their actual
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truth you know that the actual truth are obvious
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but like the problem we're like in a two-person household where personae has
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one point they both you both have phones with the same port and in one of you
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upgrade to a new one and has a different port and now all the various places like
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in that kitchen or wherever you might share a little charging station now you
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can't just use the same cable and you've got to have two of them everywhere or
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you know divide up the territory fifty 50 doesn't matter whether it's lightning
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in 30 pin or a USB Micro USB and USB see it's the same problem but somehow this
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only becomes like a public without I don't get that either I guess it's
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because I don't know I mean I guess you you could feasibly have a choice if
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you're on Android you could have a choice to get to a phone that has the
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connector that you click it seems like an awful way to make a decision to buy
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out about it I really like you and i wanna buy whatever I let me take care
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not try to sell me microUSB let me take a break here and tell you about a very
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special friend of the show first advertiser its wealth front at a low
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automated investment servers and it makes you easier to invest your money
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the right way you give wealth front your money and they invested for you they
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sort of the day of this algorithm that they use and you can adjust your risk
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versity so you could be a little bit more aggressive knowing that it might be
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a little bit more likely that you'll lose money are you can be a little bit
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more conservative they have a quick little profile thing when you first sign
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to sort of set that in place and then once you start going with it they just
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automatically buy and sell various index funds to keep your total investment
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balance so when one sector of the stock market goes up and another sector goes
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down they adjusted accordingly based on all sorts of complicated academically
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proven things that I don't understand but more or less you think about having
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a personal finance manager a person who you just go to and give your money to in
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trust them to invest it this is an automated service that replaces that
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what are the advantages to this one of them is that with regular personal
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financial advisors you get charged 1 percent on every transaction some of
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them at up to 3% and it they charge that on everything that you have under
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management so every dollar you put in they charge that fee while front only
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charges 0.25% of what you have invested and they only start charging that over
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$10,000 invested so under $10,000 invested they don't charge anything but
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they even have a special deal for listeners of the show use the code on
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any given day in here and it goes up to $15,000 so your first $15,000 you put in
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with these guys is all no fee and then they only start charging that 0.25%
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away you have over $15,000 it a $500 minimum investment so what they've told
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me is that a lot of people start out like that they'll just put $500 and just
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to see how it works and then they only put quote-unquote real money in
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after they see it and they're perfectly welcome to do that and you use the code
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you can start like that right away
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they've got all sorts of other things Cisco there and read it and I'll tell
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you about it but sophisticated investment strategies like tasks tax
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lost harvesting which is a way to just optimized automatically not just once a
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year but like as you go how to maximize your profits your returns the size of
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your investment while minimizing your tax bill all sorts of great stuff like
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go there and check them out I actually have to tell you I said that last time I
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wanted to show I said I was going to come out I'm actually very interested it
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turns out I can't I can't actually I can't use them as a customer because SEC
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rules would prevent me then from saying good things about them while they're
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paying job very complicated but we're doing this on the up and up and I really
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really really want to stay out of prison so I'm not going to do it I'm just
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telling you flat out no I am NOT a customer will front because if I were
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then I but it really does look very interesting to me let's say something
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that I check out have to read this to have to read this verbatim for
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and we go check it out when you go check out with front tuck 'em use this swell
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fronted com slash the talk show and they will know you came from the show and
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when you sign-up that'll get you the
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where they start charging you feel that you have invested bumped up from 10,000
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to 15,000 so you go check them out thanks to well I get nervous I get
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nervous with the sponsor where if you like in the clink yeah if I tell you
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something is true about casper mattresses you know i mean i mean
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there's always a stories about Katniss tags on the matches that's not even true
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it's only for retailers and it seems that you know like sometimes as podcasts
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hosts we get free stuff from the yes it seems like the welfare would be a great
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person place to go and they can't last last they cannot give you any for ya
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that's a real drag yeah yeah it really is sort of interesting things right idea
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would be that they don't want to do you know the rules are in place for good
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reason because they don't want to have a thing where they're like paying somebody
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to go on a show and say you put all my money and wealth and you know they can
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have that lets go back to the if we go back to the audio port then I wanted to
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say this that's the idea of let's just say in theory that Apple could either
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like a month after the new iPhone seven and it doesn't have the headphone jack
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if they just have like a fish bowl and the Apple store where you can go in and
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and and just say hey I need it I knew one another one of those adapters and
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then you know did just give you one you know that not only would you get one for
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free with your iPhone that you could just go to the Apple store in like two
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or three of them that is give you like you know reasonable number of and then
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after that like like after you know the holiday season's over something like
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that they just settle in and sell them for
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I mean I think the cheapest they could possibly sell them for 995 doesn't seem
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to me like they would sell for us but that's pretty cheap
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why don't they do that why don't they just give them away like Hindi kami I
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think well there's two there's two explanations one is the cynical one
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which is that they really do
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purposefully sell them for an exhibit in price because they want the money and
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the two by two explanations are necessarily at odds with each other
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there could be different groups within the company that agree with both of them
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so they could be like a team cocoa bean counters Jeff Williams operations side
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that says we can sell these for $29 that would be great because we can make them
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for $3 the other side the product marketing site might be sort of a if we
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don't make it painful sufficiently painful to make this transition even
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knowing that there's a cost to our image because people will see a money-grubbing
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and purposefully making unknowing port decisions on the iPhone every year but
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if we don't do this if it's not sufficiently painful it won't motivate
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people to move to the new thing cuz I think about it with just the fact that
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there already are lightening headphones out there but it's so far as I can tell
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very few people use them and and there aren't as many as I guess I would like
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I'm assuming they're more expensive haven't liked yeah I guess they have to
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be licensed I don't know they would have to be rain I think I mean the only thing
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that I think that's probably true in the switch from thirty Pinto lightning cause
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I think like it was just a legitimate Leah better experience that the only
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thing that is kind of a nicely some of this is because we don't really know the
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whole story
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happening but it later but the charging situation is not really a better
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situation that is not a better experience so I guess you have a
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question asked is what would make this configuration better cause I really do
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think Apple would only this is only going to happen about the things that
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overall this is better in some way
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yeah and I don't quite sure I see it especially with the charging in
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listening at the same time we may or may not have just spent the first hour of
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the show time talking about something happening that I don't even think is
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good I just think that it could because it just sounds like something Apple
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would do what I say when I blogged about it they're just I just saw it just
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sounds like so appellee
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gonna get rid of this things that it seems absurd to get rid of and knowing
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that is going to make some people very angry and make everybody else at least
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mildly annoyed
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yea well they've been doing it for you know they've been doing it since the
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iMac yeah the other the other hole angle on this and I seem to people on Twitter
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we absolutely have to mention it can go on without doing it would be that the
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out the idea that maybe Apple expects people to switch to wireless headphones
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and then maybe even the default ones that will ship with the iPhone will be
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wireless and that yes you know if you want to use your old headphones you can
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do it with the dongle if you want to get a new pair of lightning hit from you can
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do it without a dongle but that the default experience will switch from .
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you know connected had found two wireless and they would they would have
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to show they would have to ship bluetooth headphones with every every
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iPhone possible I mean it's certainly those would be more expensive my
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experience with wireless headphones though not perfect I I do like it for
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some things I I do like it when I go jogging
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counting connecting it to an iPhone but just connecting it to like the smallest
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iPod iPod nanos that they ever made or whatever the small is no way exercising
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a wire Terriers is it eventually ended you gonna get tangled up in it so that
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certainly isn't the instantaneous latency of a wired connection you know
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like when you hit hit the clicker on your your thing to pause it takes a
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moment and it's noticeable that it doesn't cause the audio immediately yeah
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it's a fraction of a second for me now after I updated the firmware on these
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ones that I have but it's definitely noticeable every time I know that every
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single time because I'm you save you know I don't know a lifetime of thinking
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there soon as I hit pause pause I mean it was true even in their Cassetta yeah
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did the beats skip over or certainly starter every once in a while and then
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I've got these Plantronics ones that I like well enough they're fairly
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comfortable and they stay on rural but yeah I mean I try to several really
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cheap Bluetooth headsets and they were well I was really trying to find
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something that would work with the watch is I want to be able to run leave the
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house with just wearing just the white headphones and the cheap ones just did
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not too much way too much skipping it wasn't a good experience like the ones
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which are much better but still every once in a while you can skip mostly much
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more with the watch the new phone but even so I think I've gotten a couple ya
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wanting to go and you know if I could just put if I could have a copy of
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overcast on my watch and have the actual tell us overcast or even I would even
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maybe even go back to a podcast player if it was impossible for third party
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but if I could have the podcasts on my watch and leave the house with nothing
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but the watch and Bluetooth headphones that would be fantastic
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any any possible way of carrying the phone thanks for running or something
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yeah but it's hard it's end and it's it's just gets kind of frustrating
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because that's one of the things that there was one of the first videos
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yeah I get in the first watch them all these people joining with headphones
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that's not really
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yeah and that's really been out so no and when you when you get to wireless
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that the pairing process no matter how much effort they put into it is nowhere
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near as seamless as the parent process of a wired pair of headphones right out
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of this one stick it into this one and your paired whereas if your wireless
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headphones are normally paired with your iPhone but you want to just leave and
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param you know have it with their watch you've gotta go get what you can do I
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think you have to do it on the phone right over the phone and launch the
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Apple watch out and parent from there then it's unpaired from yeah it's I
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don't know it just seems to me like to make it to make that work and make it be
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the default experience that we use for headphones seems like it's not there and
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latency thing and then the skipping and stuff like that is definitely an issue
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amy has a pair that she bought I forget what brand they were but she just went
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to the wire cutter and bought there here's our recommended pair of Bluetooth
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headphones and she got judges got those and she she was mad she wanted part
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Marco to do it Wireless said that she was very upset because they were not
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good I think what happened is I think that the wire cutter maybe values that
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cost a little bit more than quality then then we do because her schiphol up to a
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couple hundred bucks yet they weren't cheap that's the other thing it wasn't
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like it wasn't like it was here's what we recommend cuz it was super low cost
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was sort of a balance between cost and it might be twenty by where they were
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like through four thousand dollars you getting there was possible I do they did
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they would 200 bucks
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$299 a 249 something it felt like I this is that it felt like I as I was cashing
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out I bought them in Apple Store just look at him and i thought i buy these
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beats ones because of these have come out recently that you know they've come
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out and take him out this year so as I after the Apple acquisition it's not a
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very happily products like Apple has you know there's probably designed before
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and I mean they use micro USB which is real pros but for the charging but I
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figured if the beat ones don't work right with apple and I you know I say
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this knowing beaches reputation that the audio quality for beats headphones of
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any sort is not that great enabler you know overpaying for the brand but I just
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figured the beat ones don't work right which went well so I might as well just
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pay for it but pay $249 for peres these things really well and I $1,000 will the
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Plantronics one for like 90 bucks and they're they're they're okay but if the
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cheap ones from third parties costs $99 Apple really afford to well I say about
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some cheap ones I mean the other ones that I've got like 30 bucks they were
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really cheap wow and I don't recommend so I had to go so basically I'm trying
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to get the plant was crippled by myself and was satisfied enough to watch and I
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wanted to be able to do this
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running with headphones and I at the time back in the spring I wasn't sure
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how much I was gonna like the watch and so i didnt
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I didn't really want to dump a lot of money on this whole thing so I wanted to
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buy one in particular for the headphones I want to be as possible
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yeah I know I seems to me that Apple will have to improve the state of the
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art considerably to make that possible as this sort of default experience for
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how we're going to listen to stuff from our iPhones to make wireless and I say
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wireless Bluetooth because maybe the way that they would do it would be to use
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their own wireless I don't play well but you something other than Bluetooth
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simply because I don't I honestly don't think bluetooth is all they could I quit
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last month that you know the slogan of the Bluetooth you know consortium is
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just wait till next year but it really is they care it's been forever ever
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since every I ever since I first bought my first Bluetooth product it has always
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been you figure out finally get it working and you realize this isn't that
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great and it's kind of finicky and sometimes loses it loses its connection
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even when it's right next door of the thing it's supposed to be connected to
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and then you go and read about it and they're like you just wait till
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Bluetooth 2.0 is all these problems to come by now comes out you realize it has
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all these promising and they say just wait till Bluetooth 3.0 just wait to
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Bluetooth 4.0 with low-powered stuff like that but it's now they're saying
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whatever the next polluted this gonna solve these problems I mean I hope it
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does someday but I would be surprised I really would be surprised at all if
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Apple just goes proprietary on it and figured out their own short-range
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wireless networking thing
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networking is quite the right way to put it but you know wireless connector
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technology just do it on their own I don't know make my experience that with
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their place so I think that that more complicated though cuz I think airplay
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is who knows
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yes dependent on a lot of different things right now because it has to go
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through your network and right and because it's not just something that's
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no good wifi channels
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the other thing but it gets back to charging and he gets back to you know
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that there's a few using wired headphones and sharing the same port
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there's a problem or if you want to charge it there's a charging foul with
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wireless headphones too which is that your headphones can lose their battery
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power and that's it so if your default headphones are wireless now you're just
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adding yet another thing that you need to charge dearly like I understand the
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appeal of wow this is yet another thing that we don't need it I don't need a
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cable for any more to use but on the other hand you need now you need another
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thing to charge all the time and the beat the beat you have decent battery
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life it's about what I kind of a guess about the best I could have hoped for
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but it's not great I mean it's you have to you have to remember you have to
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remember to charge him on the plane from this thing about the Plantronics is when
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you turn it on and don't think it doesn't we should do it when he turned
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off but when you turn it on it tells you how charged it is it's the battery full
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well you can see actually its smallest icon anybody's ever created but when you
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pair them with their iPhone there's a little charge indicator on the menu bar
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for everything it's maybe just for the beat I thought I remember seeing that
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but I don't mind wasn't looking for it instead of a battery that stores on a
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little vertical battery and it is so small that I really I can't see it with
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my contact lenses in
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I can see it but I can't read my can't read how high it goes because I could
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just tell them there's a little rectangle there but it's not really even
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if I close my bad I just can't make it out of context and I have my glasses on
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I can take my glasses off and I can see that close but it's just way too small
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what's the indicator on your plan trying how does it get to suggest how much
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battery left when you turn it when he powered on we put him on parenting on it
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tells you talks with a voice yeah well what does it say that's just it says
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connected her headphones connected to beat the system gets a something on the
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beach just play a tone but the tone definitely doesn't change when you given
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the battery life anyway
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coincidental coincidences are next batter is caspar their company that
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makes engineered mattresses at a shockingly fair price and I believe air
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mattresses come complete with all the legally obligated mass text which you
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are free to cut off on to setup setup at home they have here's what they do
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they're like the apple of mattress companies they don't you don't go to
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them and then decide whether you want this type of former that type of former
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mediums
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sinker spring technology that technology these guys have figured out exactly the
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way good mattress should feel and they've engineered their own custom
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blend of latex foam in memory foam together to have a mattress that is just
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these guys know mattresses I don't you don't know mattresses I don't buy a
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mattress every couple years at most frequent
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these guys think about all the time their mattress pros they've got just the
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right one to all you have to pick is your size you don't have to go there and
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figure out whether you want springs or memory foam latex from you just get a
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great mattress you just pick what size bed you have you got a great mattress
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and there you go now the other thing is you're going to pay a lot less you
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getting high quality mattress that is made in America american-made mattresses
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and the prices are just fantastic $500 for twin size mattress $950 for a king
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size mattress compare that to industry prices and it's just outstanding and the
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whole reason is that they sell direct there are no middlemen are not selling
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to there's no middleman retailers that did you go through and they need a
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markup and there's no salesmen getting a commission nothing like that and you
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even save on the delivery costs because they they because they're made of this
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phone in a vacuum seal them up into these ridiculously little dorm room
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refrigerator box size things even cost less for them to ship them around so if
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you have any question in your mind matters here thinking I'd really this
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castro thing sounds great you have to go to a store getting a small delivery you
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just not sure about you know buying this thing online without ever having to to
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try it out and storage touch it early on it over there they have a money back
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guarantee for a hundred days sleep on the thing for three months and if you're
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not happy just call them up and they will come take it no no questions asked
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no hard sell they did really do if you don't like it just call me up a pack
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hundred days and that's with free delivery and the return is is painless
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so here's what you do go to caspar sleep dot com slash the talk-show think / talk
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show burt's too because I think at some point I might have screwed it up during
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the sponsor readonly
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very very nice enough to fix it and they both work but I just checked casper
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sleep telecom / of the talk show does work and when you go there you can save
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50 bucks off any mattress off the already low prices just by going there
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terms and conditions apply I don't know what the terms and conditions are but
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but they do so my thanks to Casper and just for disclosure purposes you're
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lying on the couch for mattress right now I can read that is our record the
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show the reasons it's actually very nice acoustics yeah Thnkx oh yeah and I sound
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better what I'm laying flat on my back hurts the diaphragm what's the other guy
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did another rumor that came out today and it doesn't make any sense does it
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make any sense at all to me so I don't even know how to write about you know I
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despaired if it doesn't make any sense
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better for the podcast I say it but I really mean that I actually mean that I
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find that having a podcast I listen to a blog some still best stuff to put on the
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to talk about on the podcast is the stuff that doesn't make any sense to me
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and this is a story MacRumors picked it up this is about the to see this with
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somebody I don't know who the sources here but somebody is saying that Apple
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is working on a next-generation iPad iPad MacBook Airs 1315 age that will be
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coming out 13 and 15 inch
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ascended link right now but I read it here this is ty want is information from
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Taiwan's economic daily news and what they say
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his album may be preparing to introduce a revamp MacBook Air at next year's
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World Wide Developers Conference according to Taiwan's economic Daily
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News enable Google Translate link to the original if Apple holds true to recent
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history would be there would be in June blah blah blah unclear whether an 11
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inch model will also be included I went to the Google Translate thing and it did
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seem like that's what the original article which was written in Chinese
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said that it did I mention the 11 engine and trans trying to read between the
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lines of the you know the Google Translate English it seem like they're
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saying that might happen or might not but they're saying 13 inch in 15 and
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no no said other stuff about the specs or anything like that no news about
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whether they're ready or not this whole thing makes no sense to me what to know
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you know because to me starting even just with the naming of the eye of the
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MacBook you know the one and only has one USB seaport that charging and
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connecting peripherals
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which by the way might be a hint as to how much Apple cares about you having to
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you use some kind of why splitting dongle if you need to charge to listen
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to something at the same time but anyway the name of it
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the fact that it is thinner and lighter than a MacBook Air but they just call it
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the MacBook certainly suggests to me that the MacBook Air is you know only
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hang around because it can be sold cheaper than the MacBook and is the
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price of making a MacBook drops eventually the MacBook Airs doesn't make
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any sense to me that David doing next generation yeah yeah very strange and in
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different sizes
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year the only thing that made that would make sense to me would be if he is the
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only way to destroy make sense to me is if they're not talking about MacBook
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Airs but instead the devices they're talking about are in fact next
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generation MacBook Pros is then 13 and 15 inches 2 sizes and you know compared
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to the MacBook
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current MacBook Pros rather thick you know and it seems like Apple's sort of
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prefers aesthetically the teardrop profile for laptops and that that
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rectangular sort of profile simply because that's the best they could do at
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the time to get all the components in to drive the red the screen so my guess
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is that new MacBook Pros are coming next year and they might go back to go to
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like an error style teardrop profile yeah you go through that can replace era
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with perot it makes more sense yeah and I just think marketing wise I feel like
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the current situation where they've got three three types of MacBook even if you
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discount the pros and the heirs as the same but which size which i think is
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having to choose that the MacBook existing alongside there is just a
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little bit confusing and I know that there's a well do you want to read the
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screen or you know you want to have these super thin even more portable size
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but it just seems to me like it's all about what price points they can hit and
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right now they can't hit that $8.99 starting price with this MacBook and so
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their lives on until it you know ya is the is the Retina screen itself that I
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mean is that the price difference is that component that expensive I think so
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combined with the having a graphics card that can drive has a has to go you know
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has to really has a uniform graphics card perspective it really is more of a
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Forex difference in performance than a two X it's really the total number of
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pixels not just how many pixels are in an engine 12 I really do think it's
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definitely definitely expensive it doesn't seem like they would just
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continue the pro in rename it the year now that doesn't make any sense another
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logical possibility going through this but it doesn't that seems unlikely yeah
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because it's it you know you can quibble about some of Apple's product naming
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strategies and whether they make center now like the way that the
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third-generation iPad just became the iPad the iPad 3 right wasn't that when
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they did the iPad iPad 2 and iPad I think right now we have iPad 2 and iPad
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Mini for write something like there's no there's no hope and iPad Mini 3 on sale
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right so like when they decide to just numbers stuff forces you know like you
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know there's a whole thing is a little messy right iPads just get a number that
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increments even if the form factor stays the same but i phone you know get this
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ass every other year
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but nothing makes like nothing goes contrary to common sense which is what
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it would be if if the iPad if the MacBook Pro got rename the MacBook Air
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it so that doesn't get heavier than the regular MacBook Pro to me says this is
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more powerful and therefore it's a little heavier yeah we're zaire says
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this is lighter I also think it also makes sense to me because something like
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what they intend to call it and marketing is exactly the sort of thing
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that whatever the sources in Taiwan who told them this would have no access to
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ever read because they're you know that's just the sort of thing that
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doesn't that really doesn't leak out of Cupertino because indeed no reason for
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it they just know the code name for it
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companies in Asia does know something like sixty eight or something like that
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yeah so what's the current so that the current difference between the air and
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the Pro is mostly is the retina display and it's actually very complicated it's
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a really like if you just had to buy one right now today is to me a very
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complicated decision so aesthetically the Retina screen is the biggest
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difference in 20 if you really want to read the screen then you can get the
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regular MacBook but they're even though it's cheaper is faster as has higher
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performance wasn't where I guess
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never i'd never looked at them and have a look at the MacBook Pro and interested
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buying one in years has been on the air for a while now so and I actually AM
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link recently been thinking I got mine has been this from 2012 so it's gonna be
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time to upgrade soon this seems like kind of a bad time to do it I think it
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probably is because I really don't think you want to buy you don't wanna buy
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another screen right whatever the performance gains would be there to know
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three years is pretty significant but it's why I think you could probably get
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by until they at least until you see what they come out here and I don't be
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irate because I don't want to get a pro and I feel like I somehow upgrade in
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next year's MacBook is going to be significant
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yeah you mean the just plain MacBook right and I i just feel I don't know why
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I know nothing I don't have any information about where I just know
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nothing in general but I know nothing about Apple's product plants I don't ask
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people stuff like that but just common sense why's it it I I'm almost certain
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that there be a new MacBook next year and it's probably going to be a pretty
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significant upgrade over last year's because a because last year's had a lot
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of very obvious flaws so there's low hanging fruit and how they can make it
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better and be it's the first generation of anything that Apple is almost
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certainly to be able to improve it one year over another it's it's only one
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products have been around for three or four revolutions
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where they might let it sit for 18 months between an update because it's
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you know they've they've gotten so good at doing blank that this this is good
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enough this is actually goes to be able to be appealing to customers for you
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know 18 months or even closer to two years so I don't know I think if they
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could if they could make the MacBook better next year and then maybe keep the
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same one that they were all started selling last year but dropped the price
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significantly introduced a new one that's better keep this one around at a
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lower price point
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get rid of the year maybe they can get rid of the air and especially to maybe
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if they could if they can make the throws the inner ear drops yeah right
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right maybe like the 13 inch or maybe the 11 inch air stays around just a hit
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that $8.99 price point whatever it is that well yeah it seems like the kind of
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thing that would be you know what we always calling educational alright
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that's something that you really have you have to go into the store and like
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asked to see the starting prices for the MacBook Air 11 inch started eight 9913
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it starts at $9.99 so who knows if the MacBook dropped that much year over year
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but it may be closed what it started now $12.99 yes I just loaded the page but I
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had to wait for Apple's animation to
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to load before I could find it $12.99 so yeah I really doubt this gonna go from
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$12.99 28 years so I guess the air gets another you know there's no but they
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haven't they haven't always been right but I think they can I think they could
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set up in a way where they don't emphasize that much in the way that they
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don't really emphasize very much the free iPhone 5 ass right that they give a
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lot of publicity to the to the new ones the MacBook and MacBook Pro and MacBook
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Air in the back
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yeah but for a long time they started i mean they started at $9.99 and there may
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have been given a point where they started like 1100 the laptops used to
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cost 5000 well yeah and it almost seems like I don't think they'd be adverse to
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going back to 1999 when they have sitting in the middle right that's an
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interesting point that maybe they could maybe they could get away with somebody
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comes in they only want to spend X amount you know let's face it their
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heart isn't really in the lowest possible price products
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although I mean I said I would say that the MacBook Air of all of them is the
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law of the lowest price ones is probably not such a bad machine now it's not bad
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get back to the whole argument we did you know how many times about hey what
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should I do with the next generation iPhone should they keep the same
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thickness it already so nation then and just miniaturize everything input more
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battery and extend battery life or should they make the device ever thinner
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and Apple tends to lean towards making it then air and lots of people wish that
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they would just make the battery life better
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that's exactly i mean bottom line putting the argument about this one USB
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port side I think that's ultimately the biggest complaint people have about the
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MacBook is that there was then enough and that they should have just kept
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making battery life better
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yea well really people still complain about the MacBook Air battery life is
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pretty well it is pretty good I guess but that they were there as somebody
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does not have a current went well and maybe we don't know how good you had it
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may be it may be even better if maybe it comes down to things like performance
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that they would go with this low power core an you know CPU they could have had
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you know just keep making the dunno just keep that form factor and just switched
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to a Retina display and keep making the performance better anymore I think that
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would people wanted was for them to do a retina MacBook Air looks I think it
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looks like they're never gonna do it this was talking about us I just don't
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see it yeah I mean I died but I think this is the colors would be interesting
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to know whether the Pro is going to go with like color options for grades based
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I would love to have space crayon yeah I don't want I don't cover it the MacBook
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at all because it's you know I want more around
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but I do covered the way that yeah it starts it starts with a kegs of RAM have
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whatever I think it's ok I like taps taps to take a break and I mean for
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let's take a break and let me tell you about a longtime friend of the show our
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good friends it
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anything that isn't really mobile isn't going to is doesn't work great on mobile
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isn't going to work for companies a glue is an internet for your small team or
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sort of size that you will actually like and it doesn't look like it was designed
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really is easy to use and really does feel modern which is not what you feel
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when you use a lot of existing internet software
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things you can do you can ask access your task lip task lists from a laptop
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during a meeting you can update your team on the progress of the most recent
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project from your phone access the latest version of a file from home and
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everything stays in sync because it all web based so what you've done a laptop
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when you go to your phone
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everything's on mobile if you do things if your team still works by emailing
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files to each other
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really really good stuff thanks to them what to talk about but also going on
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this week maybe I should have something to talk about how well it was about Star
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Wars no no no
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ok you know I know you don't want to talk about how do I know yes yes I don't
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know I know you don't want to talk about so I can do without talking spoilers
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yea well okay so do you have tickets idea I'll definitely and you know this
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is one where I really care and amy is sort of vaguely interested but not like
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and I didn't know you had to pre-order I'm I'm the dad who no longer understand
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how movie's theatrical movies work you know me like I remember when I was
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younger my dad found out that movies for $5
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you know you like kids ticket they can believe it he just absolutely can't
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believe that finally costs $5 to go to a movie I'm like that now both with prices
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like Jonas Island to see spektr and I didn't know about this online ordering I
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doesn't make any sense to me it seems to me like if you want to go see I just
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assumed that if you want to go see Star Wars on opening weekend you gotta go you
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gotta drive somewhere and they get out and you go away in a big long line with
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lots of people and after waiting line you go see the movie but it turns out
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what you need to do is buy your ticket I didn't know this Amy did and really sort
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of saved my bacon sorry we are you saying you cannot buy tickets at no you
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can't think for opening again because you never gonna yeah I don't think
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you'll never get in unless they open up unless they surprise people by having
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more screenings of it then there publicizing in advance
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yeah they might do because that seems like that would be a mean yeah and
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although they might presale maybe have to figure out the second pre-sell day to
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get in on those I mean it seems as though it seems like it might before it
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even happens it might become the biggest box office opening weekend ever think
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it's gonna be used to be so I still so i think im out I don't have taken it yet
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well so I don't mind I my son doesn't like going to the movies that much like
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going out the movies that much and so I approached him with the idea
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haven't gotten like a firm commitment hands I'm not exactly sure when we would
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schedule this event so I feel I feel like rushing out buying tickets on an
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even footing yeah yeah I want to forget if there's I guess StubHub aftermarket
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forum like sporting event it seems crazy but I mean it's absolutely insane how
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hard it was and it was one of those things where I did it the first night
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that they went on sale at the right time and it really only I really I must say
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only because my wife are you gonna buy Star Wars tickets and I might be talking
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about and she explained to me and I immediately you know where and i think
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it's Fandango yeah yeah and it was like buying an Apple product when they first
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go on sale at their website was going down you know it was saying ridiculous
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things like that was the other thing like I could actually get on Fandango it
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was saying things like that the movie theater was didn't have any tickets
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available for a certain show and MR two minutes after they want us out so that
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can't be it can't be that they've sold out in two minutes and in fact it wasn't
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but it was like they did back and was just completely blown apart and then the
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worst of all any kind of thing like this one here in like a mad rush to buy
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tickets is when you you get through you get the tickets you want and you were
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going through the process of like saying and the Fandango and then they'd just
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says like an error occurred
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don't have tickets are I do I not have to get you don't know and it's hard to
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even check if you have tickets because their website is down and then you go
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and find out that no you don't have to get it was it was stressful but I do
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have tickets for think it's a 10 o'clock showing on Thursday the night before it
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oh yeah and I've already been told that I will be I will be responsible for
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digging Jones school graduations
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we don't win and angle was going down one of the images that one of the images
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that they showed was was honshu Falken something's gone wrong and it's like you
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got the goggles on welding the Millennium Falcon from Empire Strikes
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to rewatch haven't I have not really watch those films in a while at least
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ever since it was announced that hey disney's buying Star Wars I'm gonna
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reboot the franchise reboot but which i think would be terrible that would be
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like three cats on solo now but relaunch we're going to you know we're doing the
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the trilogy that everybody always wanted to take place after you know the one you
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loved I immediately just stopped watching all of them and I thought I
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just you know I wait and then whatever this movie actually comes out you know
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what family weekend and watch all the old ones I'm excited to do that
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including the pre yeah I think you have to include
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it's so hard you know that's an interesting thing it's I've said this
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before on the show where I've noticed you know and I i've i've Jonas has been
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watching them since he was ridiculously early young he's never been a kid who's
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sort of a very gentle kid in real life is not like you know get Remy in house
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sorta kid and so he you know dealing with like violent action movie even
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considering Star Wars is sort of violent has never caused him to like act up in
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ways and it's never you know he was afraid of the rancor and already did
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likewise in the long run out of the room
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yeah but he but he could handle that sort of thing to like you like so if
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they want to see the wampa but it wouldn't like keep him up at night or
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make him cry all it did is when he watched Empire Strikes Back he would
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just eat knew it was coming and he just ran out of the room and a sort of wait
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until he could hear that it was over and indeed run back and he was so we let him
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watch immorally the thing I noticed was that they all blur together form as a
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kid and maybe a you know I'm sure somewhere if he's listening Syracuse's
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really angry at me that I didn't really strategize this aspect of my father just
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let him watch what he wanted to but I might there and that was just can't see
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if if you've got unlimited access to Star Wars movies that you can watch in
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your home on a nice TV I just couldn't bring myself to not let him do it like
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it would have driven me not if when I was a kid if I could have had all the
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all the Star Wars you candy to not be able to do it so I don't do it and it
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blurred together and i notice when he played with his friends
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early like kindergarten first grade 8 impress me and I really enjoyed the fact
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that his his penis friends were really into Star Wars not quite to the way that
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you and I were back in the day you know the way that really Star Wars was
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everything to me everything you know
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seventy seven through eighty three or so
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it was the only thing that mattered it's not quite like that but they were you
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know it was more than just you know this week there in the star wars in the next
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week they're into something else they were really in stores for all but it all
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blurred together make they just didn't see to two trilogies where one was
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better than the other they just say it's all and I found it very hot yeah that is
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interesting and has never seen the prequels see you're just like seriously
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so you're probably have been nice well I started out like that I started out like
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no he's not gonna he's not going to see him and then you know we got through the
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history seen all the original movies a few times not relentlessly like I have
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but he seen them a few times and then he got really into the Clone Wars animated
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he was in for him that's really his Star Wars but how do you really like that a
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lot why would you let him watch the the Clone Wars but not watch the fight I
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think the Clone Wars damage is better than the pre cause I in many ways I
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agree but I feel like they're up a piece because it clearly in terms of the
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timing you know it's it's entirely within the realm of Anakin and obi-wan
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you know buddy cops yeah but so as well so when clone wars ended ok well maybe
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now in this law is the time to watch the prequels and I got what I got like a fan
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it I thought it was for me to do this at least get a cut out as much as Jar Jar
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as I possibly can and said I offer a nice that I get this week we can watch
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them and he said no you realize that this is this is a lot like it's a lot
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like a religious cult
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it like a year you're ready to not only in Georgia right well I don't think I
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don't think I'm Rhino jury in the world would imagine imagine how this could
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play out though over the decades where let's say he does agree to watch with
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you and you guys watch The Phantom Menace but you watch your fan attic and
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I'm not doubting that van natta cut is probably a better picture and must be it
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might be a really great experience if you've never seen the delucas yeah but
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then imagine like thirty years from now and and he's talking to somebody you
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know and similar age and they're like that charge is only in it for like five
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minutes why are you really is like in the background he's not even doing
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anything at all it was ridiculous antics I saw him if he didn't he didn't wanna
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Stephan when he was kinda done and then since like as I thought oh well after
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the the rebels thing you know he likes the intimate stuff maybe he'll watch
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rebels in there is no no it's like he's moved it's like he's moved on but he
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maybes might be getting he might be coming around to the movie though so I'm
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hoping yeah maybe he'll build bombard him with the marketing and it's right
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yeah and other kids at school right exactly but also largely partly due to
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Disney I feel like Disney yes how to yeah I get a good thing does he doesn't
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try to sell cigarette yeah he wasn't really he was in the hospital for a few
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days and he's fine now but when he was well he was sick in the last month or
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not this apparently still this month but when we started watching James Bond
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movies which he had not seen before
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had a night offered I think I'd off
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once or twice before but she was not here not he didn't really know enough
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James Bond to be interested but I think one of them just ended up being on the
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hospital TV and he started watching it and liked it and so we watched I think
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we serve three years of the Pierce Brosnan and then we watch both of the
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Timothy Dalton and Roger Moore now as far as we know as far as we got but he
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seemed like I mean like three weeks he seen great swath of James Bond that he
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had never seen before and you liked him and I think because he was sick so when
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we got home I showed I started showing him Casino Royale and I think that it's
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updated in sort of more realistic tone was not as comforting to him as the slow
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pace of the old of the older ones like being sick he wanted something that you
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know the the Roger Moore running around in pants up to his chest in the eighties
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was something that was kind of comforting yeah the Roger Moore ones and
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again they're probably in hindsight is time goes on there my least favorite but
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I'd love them though because they were the new ones when I was a kid
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yeah and it's funny because to me as a kid
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the rider morillon's looked crackled with newness like just like an unopened
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package from company in Oregon opened Apple product you know like they just
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seen ya you and that Connery one seemed old like in the way that like everything
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in Star Wars was meant to look like it's just ridiculous because it was only a
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difference of like 10 years but I could just see the difference you know I could
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see that this suits that Connery was wearing orange today you know whatever
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whatever I was watching as I said look so sixties it looks ancient because it
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just seemed to me like I was a kid I was a ten year old kid the sixties seemed
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longer ago than they do to me today when your kids your sense of time is so acute
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sense of newness and currency and stuff like that and I just love them or want
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but even in hindsight now that the more ones look dated and I think probably are
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the most of any of them as they relate the ones that I feel great we're just
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the most faddish his outfits and reading the even the early AM even the earlier
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ones yeah I mean by the time it gets to the eighties it's just he's just so well
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but it's kind of a kind of painful I i kind of excuse it because I think the
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seventies were really odd decade where it would have been very difficult for
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them to do to dress him in a more timeless fashion like I feel like they
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you can get away with that in mind when it wasn't it wasn't cool yeah it was so
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it was so decidedly uncool
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just couldn't be done but overall the more ones to me they just go down like
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they just go down like ice cream on a hot day it's just it just you don't have
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to work to get into them at all
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yeah and they don't ask you to accept anything unpleasant you know there's
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there's like a nasty edge to the contrary ones it's certainly in terms of
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the content is nothing that really alarming and are not particularly
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violent because of when they were made
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at least in terms of what actually shown on screen but there's a certain nasty
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undertone 22 connery yes yeah yeah and more as you know was was much more
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relaxed I've always had to like talking about these I one of the things that
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with more he played it in a way that there was a sense that he knew he was
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James Bond and it already read the script and knew that he was gonna he
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knew that no matter what predicament he was in the moment
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hey I know where the third act and I'm in Iraq on the ocean
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you know it's all going to be ok he just always played it as a guy who had
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already read then to the script in newark is going
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already read then to the script in newark is going
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they're still i mean there's like those one of them and i cant rember wanna say
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for your eyes only but he slaps the female woman around and you know it's
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really kind of threatening to her and then you know and then of course she did
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and up online sacrifice yeah that's our nodes I don't remember what they do all
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they they blur together but it might be for your eyes only and I it's it's a
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scene that seems it would you would never really thought well you might have
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thought it would have thought twice about it but it would have felt natural
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for Connery's bond to do it and it really felt out of place with Roger
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Moore's not even not even at Roger Moore as an actor couldn't do it but it just
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didn't go along with the rest of how we played the character right just this
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just be clear here that you've parenting is such that you've never allowed you
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Sunday to see the ya day and draw the line
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Jar Jar Binks drawn the line that's too far
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James Bond / 18 ok violent yeah
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a break here before I have one more one word sponsors and it's our good friends
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at Harry's now here's the thing is the time of year I get very stressed cuz you
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gotta start buying gifts for people I find gift-giving joking here I find it
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incredibly stressful I never know what to buy it but I get all stressed out and
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then I put it off I procrastinate because I'm stressed out and then come
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December 23rd so it's just a disaster and I wound up buying everybody stuff
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from you know 711 I'm to really a terrible gift giver here's an easy
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solution if you can find anybody have any bearing shopping love to you might
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want to buy like Harry's shaving kit for it
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a great idea it is really nice it's great in every way cause aids are high
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quality product
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be it comes in great packaging so it looks nice and then you look like
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somebody who gives thoughtful well-designed stylish stuff and see it's
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really really remarkably competitively priced way lower than shaving stuff from
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Gillette or anything like that so you got like a dad or brother husband
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boyfriend any kind of maybe like even if you work as I guess Secret Santa type
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thing just go to Harry's duck comment check out there shaving sets and if you
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don't have one yourself you could do that too
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they sent me their holiday said they've got this holiday set and it's great I
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hadn't had a new harry's kit for years because they sent me the first one years
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ago when I first started sponsoring the show and they still have that same
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original harry's handle which still looks brand new all I've ever done from
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them is just keep buying new blade because that's all I've ever needed to
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replace what they sent me this Harry holiday set just so I could see it so I
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know what I'm talking about and it's great it is everything I like about
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Harry's it's a great handle grip blades comes with some shaving cream in a
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really really gorgeously designed package again I've said this many times
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before and I mean it's a story of packaging where I the packrat in me hate
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to throw it out because it is so nice and it's even just little things like
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when you open your stuff you don't have to like rip it open to do it it's all
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nice folding boxes that fall back together and just make sure 91 throw
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away the packaging go to Harry's dot com remember my code talk show tout save you
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$5 off your first order and if you're doing this for the holidays they've got
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free shipping and that ends on December 10th so as I speak right now they're
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cute about a week and a half half so just act now you'll save on shipping
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it'll get here on time after worry about it and you'll have the peace of mind and
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and just one last item with gift-giving stress on your mind just remember that
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what else we got we gotta wrap it up seems like I think I think I was
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actually thinking the man with the Golden Gun just to be clear yeah you
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know what you say that that makes sense that and and the one who was the other
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one dimension for your eyes only is the one that looks like it has incredibly
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cheap production values ya think that was when I get that the man with the
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Golden Gun and with a climactic fistfight between Roger Moore and
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revivals Herve villages whose who was a little person James Bond chasing a
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little person around the master bedroom money it's it's also got that one has
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has not only does it has a click racism played off from laughs because it's got
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bet that southern sheriff guy in like Thailand and some of the things that he
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says there was an odd decision to bring that guy back because people really the
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racist southern sheriff was so popular
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let's bring him back again what was he and what was the first one he was in the
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Paul McCartney theme song
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yeah yeah that they had to bring him back rub back when they bring people
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back it's always so i cant believe you don't have stars tickets are probably
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gonna regret that I'm regretting it already
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anything else try to think there's any other news this week I don't really
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think so little slut you read did you see the Fraser Speirs post now I have
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yeah yeah what he say he pulled up here
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approach replace your iPad very clever that's what I can tell he's going yeah
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the rest of it basically I should send I'm gonna put this in the show too I
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forget if I link to this on my side are not sometimes I have something to link
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to I forget a very good to a lot of its not really important but there was a
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thousand get exactly the same sort of thing it's a review of a gasoline
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gas car air conditioners so you can find it there ok this sounds like it's of of
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a similar angle yeah I mean I just have seen a lot of posts about things about
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whether or not intended for serious work and you probably discuss this many times
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but it seems it seems like there was something that we sell a long time ago
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and people are still trying to make this an argument for an artist note taker
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teacher you're going to really struggle without the native ability to use an
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that's good that's really good how are you going to use it standing up you can
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it's very difficult to use the MacBook Pro
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dangerous to use 11 walking over now if you are a road warrior the MacBook Pros
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total lack of cellular connectivity options it's really good
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alright that's I don't think there's anything else you can think for another
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hour yeah now maybe not maybe next next time john wants people can get all the
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most they want on Twitter and an enzyme that at moths and then they can see your
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very fine website very nice very nice website very it's also very fine but
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it's mostly very nice website and your podcasts regular blood tests are you
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know what's got you be so yeah I know there's no there's no competing with now
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I got a theory I wanted to bring it up he was just on the show and I thought
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about it and i just didnt wanna I don't wanna make a comfortable but I did it
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has occurred to me that might be a member that movie The Prestige yeah yeah
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and I kinda don't want to spoil it for anybody who has watched the prestige and
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I'll just say they haven't seen in awhile to refresh my memory
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I think it might be a prestige type scenario you know it makes sense to
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people have seen the president or should I just because you're not going to do it
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and that alright that I want to know what you don't want Star Wars spoilers
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people don't want this right I do think I i should say this before I wrap up I
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keep forgetting to do stuff like this a lot of times I want to tell people who
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listen to so I want to talk to you I get so caught up talking to guess they
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forget to talk to the audience I want to talk to the audiences for a second then
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just say that I'm thinking about talking about Spector on an upcoming show it's
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not gonna quite be the old way that it was with Dan Marino a point-by-point
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review of the movie but i just want to talk about it with with that and i
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havent talked about Skyfall either but I might and it's so if you're thinking
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about you know if you want to listen to it while it's fresh you should talk to
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you and you've been procrastinating on going to the theaters to see spektr you
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should stop and you should do your homework for the talk shows to go see
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spektr and then no one will be mad when I actually do it and then they will join
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us I haven't decided that's possibility I mean I did go see it with Jonas
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possibility I haven't decided what to do it's got to be something different that
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would certainly be different but that would be different not impressive he's
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been on the show
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yeah it was pretty young we did too because it was back all the way back but
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damn time we wrote a check here in Philly desire to go and I came up and
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said hey you you and then he turned right to joining us and you were great
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on the podcast is one of my favorite episodes I've ever had it was a very
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nice guy and wasn't weird only did it very good that's nice
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see this thing I got one more thing you see the thing with the Amazon thing with
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the prime air-ground know put in the show knows it's they have they released
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a YouTube video and they've got showing their their their their latest
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generation actual working prototype Prime delivery drone how this was their
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cyber monday Thursday or I guess but it's it's kinda cool what's cool too I
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don't know how close they are to illegally being allowed to to actually
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use this but they're saying that what is actually shown in the video is not like
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that they've taken CGI anything it's an actual device doing what they're saying
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is being done in the video which in and of itself is cool is that you know it's
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a real thing but the really cool thing I thought and really interesting is that
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the video is narrated by Jeremy Clarkson
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Next Top Gear host who's who so yeah you know when I had a couple of had a drink
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since taking punches producer it happens you know what it does happen it does I i
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dont know im I still feel like with that story and then they had that what they
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call in England they sacked him because he punched his producer you know I say
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though you don't know I don't know the full story on that there are times when
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it's somebody need to punch somebody does
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you do not know what he was driven to you don't know but it makes for a great
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video though because obviously part of what made that whole thing sensational
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sort of done with that same sort of style and you noticed has its not just
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because he's hosting it just has that same sort of feel and touch and it
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really it's something I never even considered when I found out that Amazon
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had won the bidding to to get Jeremy Clarkson to do it I guess it's still as
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car show for prime video or whatever they call their video service for
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subscribers when they did that I thought ok so now they're going to get the what
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used to be called top gear they're gonna get it and you have to be a prime to
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subscribe to see it I'm looking forward to seeing it didn't occur to me that
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they would take use of that and sort of turned him into lake in in the House
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spokesperson and the same video team in to be able to do that which is
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incredibly valuable because it's so good it's so well done
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put the video on the show nerd but it's it's really really good it's not just
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interesting like wow they have a robot that can fly to the airdrop packages at
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your house which is a cool idea but I really think it's fascinating to me now
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that Amazon has the Top Gear host and production team as an in-house marketing
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trend really up to the value of their stuff there's a there's a rumor what
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their Amazon Prime video mike is now coming to the Apple TV
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yeah yeah why should hear if we prepared for the show to talk about that for an
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hour job that at the end long story short somebody wrote Amazon to complain
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about the fact that there's no prime video app on Apple TV and they got an
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answer there didn't seem to go through like any sort of official channels but
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somebody's Amazon repair concerned that we're working on it which if true is
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good to know but I took that with it
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huge grain of salt because it did not seem to come from it it just didn't seem
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like somebody who was just like well like you know we have been on it we
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asked him if we have an iPad app I guess where how that could happen but anyway
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who knows I guess it's more hopeful than we've had before so it would be nice if
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there's good stuff on Amazon
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primary video with Jeremy Clarkson sup attention has two that's pretty alright
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john thank you very much thank you talk to you soon but
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