00:00:00 ◼ ► alright adam four we get into the show proper I'm gonna send you right now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► gonna send you a photograph I took from my desk today this is hours ago you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/5">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► see it was daylight this was the view from my desk in my home office ok it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/10">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► it to the back of our house that overlooks little courtyard in our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/15">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► rear neighbors across the courtyard were having some are are having some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/19">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► home repairs done it's going through Skype now announcing it as an iMessage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/23">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► keep it secure I says that it sent I did you realize that the guy at the top guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/38">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► is not that is not a a deck that is just a little sort of like a little ledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/54">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► seems save save save save it all this is this is always I don't know the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/67">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► floor of the fourth floor it's pretty high and the other guys on two letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/74">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► are ripped pants harold lloyd gag in the making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/78">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► there is if you look at hard to see cuz it's like the iPhone kind of focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/84">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► the screen of my window but if you look there is more like a blue rope going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► the roof of a house but the rope is actually connected to the other ladder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/94">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► that isn't being used so it's like there's a ladder that has like a safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► harness but the guy doesn't either surreal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/104">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► I did you just there for like an hour waiting for them know how close the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/111">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► window I could not get any work done my palms like lambs from my palms are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/119">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► sweating such they could have cured the drought in california what were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/125">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► doing they're they're ripping up the roof or something I guess the retail in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/129">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► doing they're just doing work on the roof or whatever but the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► are on these ladders does not does not seems no good it's not OSHA standards I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/139">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► got to code a guide on one guy and he was just i straddling those two ladders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/146">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► for a second or two he whatever he was doing up there was one foot on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/152">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► letter and one on another I felt like I was watching a chaplain and have my fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/157">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► was III just feared for their lives and then apparently then then they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/165">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► two got into an argument with apparently arrival contractors doing what appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/169">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► to be some other job on the same house but there are clearly not colleagues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/174">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► and they got into an argument but it's like the one group it's in the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► is 30 feet up in the air in the latter I don't feel like that's the time to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► an argument they get into beef those construction crews they're very broadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/187">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► that culture we've had some work done on our house recently and the crew doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/198">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► like somebody on the you know they'll do you build all the pranks do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/206">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► for example I don't know you know like hide and the guys keys for like hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/215">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► you know not like in their these are grown men these are like men in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► forties and fifties kinda glad that I don't work in an industry where it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/225">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► be it's commonplace for people to hide your keys XII I lose my keys cream only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/233">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► just kind of permissible Adam so we talk about lots of stuff we always do lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/241">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► stuff but the big thing is Apple TV last episode of the show I did was we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/250">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► we recorded Friday yeah so I think we had only had twenty-four hours and guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/259">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► had the dev kit one for a while but it was really only hooked up like the dev [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/265">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► kit thing really wasn't that useful because the App Store wasn't live in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► or anything like that to Friday so in terms of getting like a sense of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► whole experience it was relatively new for both of us and we had another week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/276">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► yeah I've been with it for about 72 hours no so I've done my fair share of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/283">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► poking around mostly part partially in prep for talking with you about issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/290">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► like that so I kind of have to go through the kick the tires and take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/296">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► through its run it through its paces right now I'm so I brought it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/300">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► office I brought my AppleTV into the office and I have a hookup to TV here so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/304">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► I can go through all the UI as we talk about it right now I'm doing like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/308">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► little science experiment with the reflection as I you know I can't recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/313">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► the refraction I don't know what you call that the reflection cause there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► light source reflected in the in the in the pain and its striking using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/325">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► different reflective surface using the reflective part of the remote the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► remote want to make sure okay yeah it does it it didn't like the way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/339">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► need to turn the pain to the left or the right that the the reflection goes off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/346">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► you know goes off to the left to the right that though it would in the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/351">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► world obviously mimic the physical universe you mean like when you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/357">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► sort of WR's domme on the touchpad a little bit just to make the currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► selected item sorta rotate around exactly I get pivot pivot slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/365">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► that's right it pivots and it also serbians over its like really cool like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► our they read this it's almost like on a ball joint that's a good way to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/375">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► right so it's like sitting on a bowling ball and you push it back and forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/381">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► it reflects the light source behind you which is sort of a soft light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► back just getting really good at this stuff you know mimicking the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/392">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► universe in a way that of course it makes sense we can I had to like pull it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/399">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► back and go flat for a while while they got better at doing this kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/404">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► this kind of visual effect kind of stuff before you know you look alike and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/410">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► looked kinda cool for the time it looked like you know relative to the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► world look like garbage was done but it doesn't look dumb thing no I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/421">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► alot I do like the way it looks but it's the feel of it that I really like and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/427">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► there's anything that I feel is just never read a lot more other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/432">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► reviews since you know since I spoke about it and it does seem X seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/437">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► it to me a lot of people it seems like I'm in the minority it seems like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► of the overall first week feedback is a lot more negative than I think it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/449">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► be like way way more controversial than you would ever think it would be that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► seems like a minority that's that's actually just really like stoked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/459">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► this thing yeah definitely on your side I I think this is magical and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/464">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► able TV huge proponent of Apple TV since the first version so I watched it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/469">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► know I've owned by like 445 and only had definitely a phone call for like one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/477">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► know kind of the point of fixation where i could get one free they're cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/486">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► enough now you can get one for each TV and like you know we have two TV you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/492">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► know to in the office and actually for in the office but Jesse cha reminded me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/498">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► today on Twitter that I was the guy who would win the AppleTV first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/504">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► version 1 I would actually travel with it like you we would all come to to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/509">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► we've come to a conference in San Francisco and I would bring mine with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► and hook it up to the hotel TV just in case and I kept my whole movie library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/519">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► on their cause you wasn't there was no real cloud service kind of stuff yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/525">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► I would I hacked mine back then used this what was it fired something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/531">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► remember what it was it was it was a firewire know there's there's a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/538">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► a there's a company a software company that basically sold a hack for the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/543">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► TV I I know what you mean I forget what it was called is why we should have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/549">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► live audience i knowi me now and and the fact was really I i was just going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/556">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► to zoom out to the big big picture there's really only been three Apple TVs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/563">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► the first one which ran like it was like Mac OS 10 10.4 under the hood it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/568">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► wouldn't look like a Mac but if you took it apart and did the equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► jailbreaking it you could figure out it was an Intel x86 Mac more less like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/578">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► really low end Mac Mini running a version of OS 10 but with this custom TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/585">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► interface it sometimes if something went wrong yet to surface like the DDoS or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/592">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► whatever you can see they are you could you could see all the code running on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/599">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► felt real mainframe me then there's the second generation which is when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/605">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► switch to a much smaller puck the little black book and it was much simpler under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/609">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► the hood running it was it was running a version of iOS that third generation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/616">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► really sort of like 2.5 because it was just like I forget what it added but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/622">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► may be that was when they added 1080p support I forget what it was that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► is true is 1080p and for some reason cuz I have both versions in the hole in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/632">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► in my home right now for some reason version 2 no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/637">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► owns YouTube exact know that I know why that is a long story short it because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/641">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► some point Apple stopped doing software updates for that second generation one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► and YouTube like sometime within the last six months YouTube changed their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/650">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► API to such that anything that hooked up to your YouTube needed some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/657">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► update keep active with YouTube and because the second generation Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/663">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► isn't getting software update any more games you too and so the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/669">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► generation is still rolling running the whole day of class and nasty and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/675">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► version 3 iOS looks pretty good but nothing compared to this one but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxuvXio/681">TS</a>]