127: ‘A Sack Full of Plucked Feathers’, With Guest John Moltz
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did you hear something just go bing no good as the new setup working great it
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comes with all these denials selective held set up this is my old setup was
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just a mic and then add a USB and USB goes in your computer and that is
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there's there's nothing else like a year this one has here's the box right here
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at San onyx blackjack premium to buy two USB recording interface from Mackay it's
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got a bunch of these dials and stuff you know look serious I mean it makes me
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feel very professional
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it's a very nice piece of equipment but I've got all these dials to turn
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Marco told me how to set it up he just sent me a picture into said just turn on
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the dials do this
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yeah so I did alright man that thing wow really you the one that made out with us
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160 like all of them has all this one is $125 two inputs something for the
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monitor and then looks like you're bad you're bad interfaces of the day week or
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whatever looks like it looks like an Access database gone wrong are you
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sending it by Sky Breeze ending in
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ICIC that it's shown up if I had just done with Marquez said in this edition
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of my door I would adjust it would have been very cinematic it would've been one
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of those things where would have opened you know you open the cardboard box from
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Amazon and then I would have seen this and then it just set the box down he is
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what ya I just started driving just drive right to the Atlantic Coast
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blackjack you yeah yeah I got this I just that's more manageable you know
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what that to me it looks like it might as well be this this it's five more
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dollars that used to have five more dollars than I can handle is five times
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as complicated as what youre is before I don't know if it's because I'm getting
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older I don't know I think maybe it's a little bit of column a little bit of
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column be like I don't think I've ever been very smart about dealing with
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complex interfaces but you know the album music stuff you know and and and
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iCloud photo librarian stuff I need I needed to be one day I like you know I
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like one down right but you say I sound good so we'll take it
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yeah yeah I think so what I now you've got crackerjack years right I am NOT
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know I've actually been strongly I bought a couple of Bluetooth headphones
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when I got the Apple watch ya and was gonna write up a thing about it but I
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just don't feel like I can do it because neither one of them is good
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which ones do I get really cheap and that's the thing is I feel like I should
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try 131 so that's it
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don't buy once there's thirty we don't feel like it's great advice I don't know
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if you remember I would join us journalist on a few weeks ago back in
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april we both about the same ones he's beat went which are overpriced
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great whatever to what does work ok yeah I think so that thing was is that we
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both were complaining about latency and then it was follow up a week or two
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later some kind listener of the show was a dude you gotta get the firmware update
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and I'm like firmware update for headphones I mean what the hell happened
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is the honest to god truth to go to beat audio and you tell them you got the
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beats whatever they're called Bluetooth and then you you get a download and it
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once you got once I got the download and install that it really did it I wouldn't
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say it fixed the latency because I'm still you know I'm used to the juror
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latency of wired had fun but it's the latency after installing the software
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update on these on these beats was like what you would expect from Bluetooth
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headphones you know it's like a fraction of a second liens he but it's reasonable
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one of these would not wouldn't with shipping and the other one was and i
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wanna running and the other one was rattling well I do think I Marco tweeted
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yesterday asked if anybody running iOS 9 beta is experiencing like some skips and
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fall out with Bluetooth had fun and I hadn't really thought about it but i i
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think I was I think I am and it's so it's it's like the beauty of you switch
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to bluetooth headphones is that now you're susceptible the software bugs and
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regressions break we've taken to see we've taken a look at it we've taken
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this thing that worked perfectly since before we were born right like 1970
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whatever would we were born where you know for use 68 whatever
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that is you know their headphones you plug the man and then you hear what
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you're supposed to hear and it works till you step on the headphones and now
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we've replaced it with something that when you upgrade your operating system
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maybe your headphones don't work so he did you know well now I have a new pair
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of them wearing as we speak right now because this thing has that big
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yeah and so I Marco say to him right now Marco told me I had it you know you say
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you have an adapter for sure I do but god oh you know who the hell knows where
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it is and he goes well then you should get new headphones too so i got now now
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wearing a pair of Marco approved headphones as well but thanks to
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cleaning out my basement I know exactly where my adapter is really you do you or
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him I said it's one of those big coiled you know it's a long cable and it's one
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of those springing cables through so I can walk around cuz you know back in the
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day you want to listen to music and walk around the room and do so what can I do
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that that was what was that was bluetooth headphones back then it was a
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truly cable is a good move your stereo are you still need to move around and it
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wasn't like he could put it in your pocket was the other thing before that I
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put my headphones for that kind of Jack for there was before the water came out
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yeah nice big fat had fun right so anyway yeah rather than by a $2 adapter
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about $200 pair
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but but in my defense my my headphones I had been wearing were they still work so
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I can't say that there you know somewhere
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depression-era grandparents are coming out of the grave to kill but they still
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work but there they date back to to light when I was doing the show it damn
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Benjamin I mean they're pretty old and and the the leather on the thing that
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goes over yet to solve peeling off whether it's quote-unquote leather yeah
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it's all right and so like every time I record a show now or do I get these new
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headphones little darlings are flowing well I was done with the show the first
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thing I would do would be like to shake my shake by Harry flakes of leather ad
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out so I thought why not splurging get into serious you're worth it
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deserve it and here's a year two years to rate this version of the shower this
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shows up gotta be up to three years now right cause this is episode 127 yeah
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three years old
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everything sold
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so what else is going on to do you have talked about music on 2009 oh well you
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know what do we should talk about that I talked about it with our own poll and
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and it was the day that jim has posted his well I lost 3 700 songs and then the
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show went into editing I think we're gonna win but it wasn't gonna air for
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like four days and in the meantime he got called an apple and erode follow-up
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and so was his call but he takes some of the music stuff out cuz it's not really
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you know it's a danger of recording a podcast as opposed to live broadcasting
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I thought it was funny but he took some of that but we could talk about what the
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hell he took out but have you with your experience been like anything like his
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work I have hardly done anything with it that's the thing yeah we were on
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vacation when it first came out and I signed up for it so who knows maybe my
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music is gone I don't know I haven't looked but I said I signed up for it you
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know cuz it's free for a couple of months and I wanted to try the radio
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stuff out which is new to me i mean you know the old guys never tried to
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streaming stuff I guess I've tried Spotify but it didn't really stick for
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me and I tried to radio but I don't know I haven't really done anything it seems
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like all my music is still there but I am terribly confused though because I'm
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I'm I'm another one of these people were I do pay for iTunes Match I do have
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thousands of songs that I ripped from CDs but now I've got the Apple music
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what about you
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yeah I didn't count my songs before a joint service so I have no way of
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knowing if anything is missing or not actually as far as I can tell I mean
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other than going back and looking for specific songs but they're not gonna do
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so I have not I can't say that I've experienced any losses things that I
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brought to the table in the gyms host was that I had a mean I had used it and
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kinda liked it I mean it was like listening to the curated playlists and
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like listen to the radio stuff and then I kind just forgot about it a little bit
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and that's kind of the way I've been using streaming services anyway it is
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I'm I had these playlists that I make music that I own and I usually end up
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listening to those and then when I get bored with it was I'll go undue
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discovery through some streaming service basically just say okay there's some of
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the songs I like me some other stuff like this stuff and then usually what I
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do is I got my body just under 10 years old so I kinda glad you know I gone into
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that other third phase again where I was just listen to things that I owned and
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then jim's post reminded me of music is out there and they went back and I tried
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again and I still i mean I agree that the the interface is kind of confusing
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like I really don't quite understand the difference between some of the tabs but
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I do like it for music discovery quite a bit I think the playlists are good and I
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generally find something that I want to keep that I started listening to it for
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any extended period of time and then the other thing I recently just tried the
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time before al is picking a song and then saying tell you to make a channel
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off thats on which I think works really well so as far as for using it for music
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discovery I really kind of like it and then the other thing that I like about
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it is because I do so many playlists because I manage my playlists myself it
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will sink those to the cloud now so I don't have to sink back and forth
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between my phone and macro my music is on to get the playlist honor yes I don't
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even listen there's really just what do you do you just pick songs are you want
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it wasn't immediately I don't know
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I don't really listen to a lot of music is the is the realization that I am to
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you I am really looking forward to it I wanna get it in my car somehow things I
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need like a new car I guess is that what you get is I have died because I have my
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phone in my car I have in my car
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yeah well I can put my phone in my car but I can't really hope my phone up to
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ok well used them I just need a new stereo well again when I get $200 but
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you don't necessarily have to go out and buy a new car again be a lot easier had
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the money I need to get out because they are so we're gonna have to buy a new car
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here's sign the cosine she's just the only name on it but I thought the do you
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get your license back why did I i
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I think it's such an ambitious undertaking the whole Apple music thing
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and I totally understand the I you know the one foot on the shore one foot on
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the boat
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you know it's kind of hard to make this shift from being a download focused
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service that you don't want to just pull the plug on and that you still want to
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support so if people do just wanna buy albums you can still do it to this news
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streaming thing you know I told you realize how complex this is and I agree
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with you there on the content side I think they nailed it I think you know
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from everything I've heard people really like these stations
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the ones that are you human curated people really believe in like beets one
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yeah which I'm not but I don't i can i can i mean to me that's like that was
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the whole purpose of this music draws this was to get away from that kind of
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thing I kinda wanna hear somebody talking you know it's not for me but I'm
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kind of amazed that so many people seem to like yeah I to me I think it's sort
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of trying to be when MTV was in the eighties
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you know here's what everybody's listening to you know where everybody is
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people who care about new music but you know me like when we were in the
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eighties there was just one MTV and like you know the top 10 countdown everyday
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at five o'clock whatever time it came on weird play everything from Motley Crue
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to Madonna to you know Lionel Richie you know they're worried it wasn't really
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segregated by genres you know it was just here is popular music everything
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from heavy metal to dance music or whatever you want to call it and you
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know here's what's new and I feel like that's sort of what they're trying to do
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with beat one yeah but on the flip side you know somebody has to make an app
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that presents all this and I do think it's kind of complicated and the other
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complaints that I've heard from some people and you know maybe it's just the
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nature of the sort of people who like to read my stuff you know that it's picky
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people but the thing that seems to drive some people really crazy is that if you
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don't sign up for our music and you do not even interested in it
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the new music app is Blake there's tabs that just don't apply to you anymore you
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know and the other thing I I know that people have complained about it when you
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do sign up rebel music it puts my music last minute abs raid and I thought that
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was sort of a weird thing to complain about it's sort of like you know is the
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is the rightmost tab the least important to have I don't know but I brought up to
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my wife and she Amy agreed she was like I
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to meet she thought that implies you know that's the least important thing
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where is it really like it might be you know depending on the size of your music
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library you might have like 40 or 50 gigabytes of music and it's all stuffed
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into one tab in the lower right
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yeah I mean the nice things one of the improvements that I found was going in
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you can turn off connect and restrictions I think it's sort of it you
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know it's like like he did you don't want kids did you want your kid to have
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the iPod Touch but you don't your kid to see you like to musicians wearing or
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something like that I don't know I guess that's what that's worth but you can
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turn off connect and then when you turn off connect it puts the playlist stabbed
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in the spot where connectors so that was kind of nice that actually made a lot
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better since I you know you so much and you don't really plan you don't really
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connected and i screw you never leave the house so why would any connect I
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haven't really heard one of the things I haven't really heard anybody follow up
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on like his connect working is it is our people using it is it taking off is it
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really is it is it is it paying all over again and nobody's using it or is it
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somewhere in between
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yeah I haven't seen anybody talk about it really no not since it came out it
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just it seems like it's like blogs for the artists in a way I mean they just
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seem to posts where they are posted pictures and maybe a little commentary
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but I didn't find it very interesting or useful at this point anyway did state
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win something about like saying that they were they were gonna bring more to
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it later but at this point I was not really it's just not the kind of thing
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that I'm interested in
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so are you in iTunes Match customer no I haven't been so that makes it better I
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feel like that's the point I feel like less of a problem now are the perfect
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storm of the problem and it never worked well I don't know I think I was to see
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this one of things I don't know if it's a couple I just tell the story again
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we're anywhere where I to family plan there but I don't have many gigabytes of
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music but she's she's got enough music where it's like her total it's pretty
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combined with like a photo librarian stuff it would be tight and with 228
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library which is when she was so that if she can you know get in the mood to
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listen to something she can listen to it and I don't know where she's had like
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jeffries oldman work with cloud services it's like I would like setting up and it
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doesn't want the cloud icon she want all the music on the phone because she paid
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for the giant 228 you about phone and it looks like it's all there and then it's
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there and then you know couple months ago she came back from the gym and she's
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mad at me because all of her music is in the cloud and I'm I got a campy and I
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look at her music app and everything in the cloud and I can't explain it I don't
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understand so the way it was before music yes music so the way I fixed it
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for as I just turned her turned off my cloud match iTunes Match whatever it's
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and just woke her up by USB cable to a Mac and just synced it like the 2007 hey
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you know just dropped iTunes said think all of the music all of our playlists
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that I didn't cloud works perfectly well wasn't it wasn't the whole thing with
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match that you could just you just sign up once and it would match your Lee
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previous catalog and then you basically give you rides everything that you got
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from her and whatever and then when you don't have just then he just can cancel
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your subscription after the funeral for the second year in a really needed it
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unless you want it in her situation she was one of the clouds so she would
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really ask that first year having need nineteen right but there was supposed to
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be a way that you could just say but I also want all my music on the device you
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know yeah yeah I don't want to have to put down by then anyway and that is that
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is definitely currently the one thing that I find completely fiddly I don't
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quite understand yet is because I like having it all on the device to partially
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because I have a Sonos and I won't play no place like home soon as there has to
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be on the device at least until they get music which they said they're going to
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be doing but if I wanna play something on the Sooners that has to be on my
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you know I have to have something I've never physically someplace obviously
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can't play it from Apple's cloud because there's nothing about Apple's so and
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just trying to do that often before tells me but I think it's got a little
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bit easier with an update the recently did because I think maybe I just knew it
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was there before and I just missed it but now you can go into like a playlist
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and just say make this entire playlist available offline I don't know should
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download all the music so my suggestion my suggestion that and it was just a
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flipping off and maybe I'm just waving my hands here and there's good reasons
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for it but my suggestion tossed out there is why not make it an all new app
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just have an album Music app and then if you sign up for a pop music used Apple
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music app and it streams all the radio and the thing I'm thinking just loosely
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maybe I'm being stupid somehow maybe I'm overlooking something and yes if you
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have an iTunes library of songs that you already own that app could just see
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those songs and show them to you but it would never try to delete delete them or
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do anything
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magic with them and then you have two apps and if you don't want Apple could
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just keep using iTunes yeah which would play your music and iTunes could be i
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didnt and an apple music could be this app that much like the new photos from a
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cap is like a clean slate both in terms of like the interface it presents and in
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terms of the online banking stuff that it's supposed to do and there are a
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bunch of people like reactions are you know a lot of the stuff I write often
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gets polarized reactions but this was so completely polarized blew me away we're
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like it seemed like half the people responding to that were like yes exactly
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you know this is exactly what I should have done and the other half where
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you're an idiot you're completely missing the fact that the entire
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but here's what's funny I kind of agree with both sides obviously I agree that
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says this sounds like an interesting idea and the people this AM an idiot
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which is like half the the reaction we're saying the entire point of this is
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to have all of your music and one up you know one was the the slogan it WBC was
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one thought about music and I see the appeal of that but my my response to
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that response I guess is one thought about music sounds good it sounds like a
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good idea but I'm saying if you look at the actual software specially iTunes on
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Mac OS Windows which is probably the same it it's it's just it more
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complicated now than it ever has been and we've been complaining about how
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complicated it is four years
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at least since like the iPhone came out right i mean sometime around that era is
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when people started complaining that iTunes is getting you know too much I
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shoulders and now with Apple music in there to its more than ever it's all of
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the store it still has you can still buy it I S apps in iTunes so it's all the
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music store the entire iOS App Store but not the Mac App Store all of your music
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that you own and now it's got all of that music stuff that you subscribe to
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to me that's an awful lot that you're asking what happened to do
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yeah it does it's easy to say that cuz we don't know the real reasons why they
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actually won a particularly right but at this point it's just right and I want to
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tell you
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unwieldy rate Marco mentioned it to in his post that you know the season to
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think of a lot of reasons why they didn't go that route why they made it
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fully considered it and decided not to go that route and I am NOT saying they
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should have I'm just twice in this as an idea of maybe they could have and maybe
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things will be better
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the one thought that occurs to me about it is it might have taken a lot longer I
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mean look how long
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photos for Mac took it was announced that WWDC last year and they even said
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when they announced it would be early 2015 I think they said early 2015 or at
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least they they said it you know not coming soon and it still didn't ship it
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didn't come out of beta until late April or May I mean it was very close to a
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year after they announced it at the BBC 2014 before photos from Mac shipped not
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as a beta for Mac it it absolutely takes longer to start over even if your goal
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is to have a simpler less complicated interface so maybe that's the main
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reason that it's always easier
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to just keep tacking onto iTunes then take the time to start something no one
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of these opinion pieces or someone says that Apple's the new Microsoft which i
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think is ridiculous but this is like one instance where a kind of does apply at
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iTunes does seem like it's just become so overburdened with added features that
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is likely office was back in the early two thousands
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well it is is a general rule the idea that you just keep taking into this one
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is sort of the Microsoft in loose you know general terms that sort of a
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Microsoft Way of doing things and not the Apple way of doing things
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yeah and they've never gotten it had never gotten rid of anything it seems
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like you know we used to go through the through that throughout the 2012 movie
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and things like that where they would take something in the deadly blow it up
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and start all over again and you lose things but it often you'd end up with
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their app and in this instance they just don't seem to be doing at all what about
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they still have to they still have podcasts in iTunes I know and I West
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that see that's another at a perfect example rights on iOS they they yes oh
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and iOS they they created entirely separate podcast app and on the whole
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it's it's what matters anyway because I mean I know from the stats from the show
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that most people listen to podcasts on their phone there some kind of mobile
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device you know make sense but it's crazy that on the desktop they still
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have podcasts in there too right
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it's a maybe that's another sign of the Mac as a second-class citizen iowa's
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that they don't make a stand-alone utility with a client is the biggest
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usage by client yes well for me it's overcast but there's a little bit of
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selection bias there
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yes without question is because you know during forward Darren fireball readers
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and listeners of the show are way more likely to see even know I've heard of
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overcast let alone you know be smart enough taxes and somebody sent me after
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I tweeted I think I tweeted that I treated the stats that I get from
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SoundCloud which israel is the idea for this and they had they said that they're
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like the producer unlike a general interest
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podcast seemed pretty popular as you know something like twenty or thirty
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thousand downloads per episode and for them
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overcast was way down i mean it wasn't even close it was even it was even
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behind other clients just because it hasn't been out as long but yeah but i
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dont get it I'm trying to look it up here
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stats it it doesn't say podcast for iOS it's called like it's the background
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process that does the downloading ok so you probably can't tell the difference
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between that apple core media yeah it was the difference between that and well
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we all know you know but then it says so here's my here's my stats for the
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previous episode with Jason's episode
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so for the RSS version which is just about everybody overcast its 29,000
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apple corer media iPhone which I take to mean the podcast app on iPhone about
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17,000 then there's iTunes which is 4500 and I think that's iTunes on the Mac
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Apple Corps media iPad so it's interesting how do you get a broken out
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between iPhone and iPad is 2700 mozilla is 2400 and I think Mozilla means see
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this is where I guess I think it means anybody listened in any browser because
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you know like every browser says that they're like Mozilla because there's no
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freakin way that Mozilla would come in the real actual come in ahead of Safari
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and then downcast at a respectable 1900 pocket casts 1700 instant cast castro
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and then weigh down it two hundred poor old apple core media for iPod very sad
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not many and I think I would have said OJ year ago to joke that one of them was
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John Siracusa but now he's got three now so I do have good stats like that it's
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interesting but to me it's crazy that they still stick podcasts in iTunes and
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I wonder if some of it is just about put it in a different app now that people go
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not open the other after we leave for like a new service like music well and I
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guess and a guest it so that there's you know i mean they're called I i even date
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with this or blog and I always forget but you know it's funny that we call
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them podcasts but nobody listens on iPods anymore everybody listens
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I found some stuff but if you do listen to it on your iPod and it's not an iPod
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Touch it's you know like an iPod iPod then I guess you still need the sink it
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from iTunes so I guess I guess I understand why they haven't taken it out
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for people who need to sync to an iPod but for anybody just wants to listen to
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it I really think it ought to be a standalone app even on the Mac that you
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know works just like the IRS podcast app yeah but what do I know maybe that's
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next keeping that in the App Store for healthy be someday they'll come let me
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take a break and thank our first sponsor is our good friends at Casper Casper
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the right sink just the right pounds they don't they don't give you all these
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different types of mattresses to choose from they've got one type of technology
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they combine latex foam and memory foam they come together for one style of
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here's the prices of you know anything about HIV if you stop for a mattress any
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time in your adult life you know that it's there's no other word for it that
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iraq it's an absolute racket you go to like mattress USA or something like that
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and you shop the Sealy or whatever brand new one and you write them down you
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write down what they cost with the modern I'm sorry drive across town to
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Mattress King or whatever the hell the next door is called and you look at the
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same brand and you look at the mattresses they all have different names
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and they so there's no way to compare they do this on purpose so that they
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really is it like a rocket where they each store gets their own like model
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names from the same manufacturer so that you can't price compare and all the
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prices are high anyway and they've got you know 11 mattresses set up that late
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on them in the retail story gross number one gross
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ways to probably a very good way to get lice here's the prices from Catherine
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500 bucks for it
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2424 twin size mattress 954 a king size mattress and then in between 20 and King
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her the price points in between 509 $5,950 for a premium king size mattress
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is crazy you're never gonna beat that at like retail mattress stores in
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outstanding price point for a great mattress here's the thing that you don't
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get to try it before and you don't forget to sit on it or anything like
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that you gotta trust it but here's the deal they have guaranteed I think it's
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like 40 days I don't know some hundred days hundred day guarantee so you buy
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this thing it shows up for free and and a back room package in in this crazy box
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it's like the size of a big big dorm room refrigerator shows up they give you
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a special tool you take it up to the bedroom where you want it to open this
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thing up and it makes a really cool sound and it sucks up all the air and
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then all of a sudden you've got a mattress you've got a hundred days from
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that point to sleep on this thing and if you don't like it you just go to their
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website no hassle they did go there I don't like this mattress give me my
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money back and then they take care they send a UPS guy to like get the mattress
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at your house and that's it that's how sure they are that you're gonna like I I
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don't think anybody ever it takes take them up on it a great mattress they sent
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me one last year it it's like brand new right now
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so here we go to find out where you shopping for a mattress you cannot beat
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these guys the other cool thing I don't know how many of you guys live in New
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York but my understanding is that if you live in New York City they are you can
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get this like same day and they bring it with a good guy strapped to his back and
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brings it to your house on a bicycle that's at how crazy these boxes so it
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might be worth it to buy one of these just to see the guy show with the
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mattress on his back
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here's the deal go to caspar dot com slash the talk show used to be casper
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sleep dot com they got a better domain they upgraded its casper dot com C ASP
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yaar dot com slash the talk show and by using that code the talk show I think if
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you just go to the URL the coupon applied otherwise just remember the
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coupon the talk show all one word and you'll save 50 bucks so they're already
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low prices your save 50 bucks terms and conditions apply I don't know what the
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terms and conditions are but it's a good deal and I know a lot of listeners have
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taken him up on this and I've got a lot of feedback from people who are like
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they really did sound crazy to buy a mattress from a podcast but I did and it
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was great so my thanks to Casper one of the conditions is no lies no lies nobody
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problems people are having and the comp my problem seems to me like everything's
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compare and contrast with the new iCloud photo library which I was more worried
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backups of everything I've got stuff but i just i don't know I just worried that
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it wasn't going to work and you know I backed up my phone beforehand so that if
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if I turned on this thing and it erased my photo library on my phone I could
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just restore the phone to where I was before I turned it off I did you know I
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sort of first reaction if you have thousands of photos I think I've got
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like seventeen or eighteen thousand photos total from my old iPhoto library
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don't know couple of days something like that and then but lo and behold like you
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turned it on and all my devices all my devices have all my photos and when I
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take a photo with my phone by the time I go to my Mac even if I'm just sitting at
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my desk and I go to the photos out there it is it's right there at the bottom of
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my you know all your photos it is
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you know for people who say Apple never gets cloud services writer something
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like this I would say the photos things seems like an example where they did
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have you tried it I have not right now because just because I was afraid of
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that initial sync process taking so long in also just the fact that I felt like I
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was gonna have to read the storage space because I didn't think I was gonna be my
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libraries and library but that's always been my problem is that I just have too
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many pictures in a lot of crap and should be thrown away but i dont wanna
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go through that process of going through every single thing and internet for what
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you go on Wednesday so I have not done yet and you know we did I guess I
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blogged about yesterday in a couple people on Twitter you know obviously
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it's not working for a hundred percent of all people there's some you know I
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don't know does anything ever work front of all people I don't know but it seems
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to me like there are a lot fewer people encountering problems with my club photo
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library then there are people encountering problems with the music and
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conceptually to me it is very very simple it's all of your photos and all
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of your eyebrows across all your devices in the future you know you have two
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options
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download the originals to this device whether it's a Mac or iOS thing and that
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means you get the original image that was taken from the camera or optimize
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and this is this if there's something that's a little and wavy it's what does
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this optimized photo storage mean you know somehow means you don't get on this
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device you don't get the full res versions will iCloud will resize them to
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you know make sense on your device so I guess you get smaller ones on your phone
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and bigger ones
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back but in either case if you turn on optimized storage you're not going to
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get the original image
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their complaint I've seen on Twitter from people is that even with optimized
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photo storage on it still takes up too much space that it's taking up 10 or 20
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gigabytes on people's phones and they don't have that much space maybe because
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they bought a 16 gigabyte founder twenty or thirty two or something like that
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which is a reasonable complaint but then if you have a guest their argument would
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be that if you have us a space constructed device during your entire
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photo library even optimized is not a good idea for that device is I don't
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know what the solution would be I guess I guess Apple couldn't theory store even
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tinier thumbnails or something you know I'm not quite sure isn't that would be
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kugel serving the Google service was down real I guess because it may be that
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just is their web based roots showing because you know something like Flickr
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or any kind of web based photos stored service it is the idea that it even
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could download all your photos doesn't even make sense because there's no way
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to get five megabytes of local storage or whatever the limit is for a website
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with local storage that's stored in there as well there is OK SMI my labor
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is almost 50 gigs your iPhoto library my photos library ok you have upgraded to
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photos I've ever to photos yes how many times turned on how many how many
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pictures 8516 it's the big things yeah probably yeah
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the videos to yeah yeah yeah yeah they call it photos but it's it's it's just
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like photos on your iPhone it really mean anything you shop with the camera
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yea certainly very nice to have but I just don't feel like paying for an extra
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is now well what do you saw on the three tier yeah I'm still in the area
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gonna work but that raises a good point though that it's twofold would be which
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was why is the free tier still just 5 gigabytes for this company with 200
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again and it seems like it always comes up when you're on the show it's like
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let's paint him coaxed into an end to so we'll put it will put in our standard to
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claim disclaimer that we understand we're not trying to say we're
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know-it-alls and we know more than Apple how to spend money but you know and that
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the way that you accumulate two hundred billion dollars in cash is by you know
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maybe not
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willy nilly on every idea that too it is on a podcast say that you should spend
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money I'm just saying it seems to me though given what other companies with
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less money than Apple offer for free storage
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it just seems to me like maybe Apple could be a little bit more competitive
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in that regard as to how big the free tier is and that it would be in their
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interests in terms of getting more people to use this you know that the
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photo sinking which I think they've put a lot of work into and would like people
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to use it in the flip side would be the 16 Gigabyte devices yeah
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because even if you know and and this was like when I asked Phil Schiller on
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stage last month
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part of his answer defending the 16 Gigabyte devices is that more and more
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of people storage is cloud-based but even if you know as as these people
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responding me on Twitter pointing out even if you turn on optimized photo
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storage if you have a lot of photos it's still consumes a lawful lot of storage
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on your device or at least awful lot if you have a 16 gigabyte device yeah if
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you have a 16 gigabyte device you basically don't own rooms where it's
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really it's just and I lived with a four gig iPhone for two years
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well I think it makes sense this is one of the differences between music and
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photos if you just use the streaming for Apple music I guess it makes a lot of
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sense on a 16 gigabyte device right that you don't have anything stored locally
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almost nothing that it really is just cashed and you're listening to the you
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know the beat when radio station or something like that that's fantastic
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right that you can listen to a wide variety of music you can search for
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music you can get the urge to listen to a certain artists and as long as you've
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got the bandwidth of you you know you know why fire enough space on your
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cellular plan you can just listen to it without worrying about the storage but
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with the photos even again there's just no way to to to participate in this if
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you have a lot of photos in your library without using some significant degree of
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local storage and 16 gigabytes just is is pretty brutally short for that
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they don't really sell any degree from them or do they not new but they but not
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not top tier but if you go and buy like an iPhone 5 seed it's only a guess it's
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still yeah absolutely I guess so yes 0 for all my concern that song by an
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unlikely if there's a mine now if there's a by now and next button next on
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the website I guess yes technically it is but I think your only choice yeah
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your only choice if you buy a 55 today is to get any good and you know it's
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just the way they work so if they don't move the baseline for the brand new top
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tiers success and success plus which again I'm just getting that what they're
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gonna do in September if they don't move the base line up to 32 then I don't know
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what they're gonna do you know if they keep the storage tiers the same it seems
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like all the storage tiers will be the same and then the mid tier one is still
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gonna be only 16 gigabytes and low and one might still only be eight gigabytes
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of it seems completely crazy I mean the good news is that they have have done
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the work to make iOS 9 require a lot less storage space initially to upgrade
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which is it was definitely mean they've pretty much flat out said it was a
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problem at WMC
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privacy but for a lot of this stuff it really is you couldn't even upgrade your
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phone right and it's like it really it really starts to do it with especially I
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think with the camera stuff really starts to directly conflict where it's
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like how can they brag about how nice the camera is and how
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how high the quality is a video store about four pictures right
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take one panoramic photo burst mode up to two images now I know we talked I
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think we've talked about this before but would you would you go back to Florence
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that's a great question I in theory I would in fact I just spent almost a week
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using my four inch iPhone 5 ask because I had Apple iOS nine on it and I put my
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sim card in it you know actually try I have since gone and upgraded made my
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regular iPhone 6 to the latest iOS beta because it's that it I at least remain
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don't you know you go to switch to the highest bidder in your phone dies don't
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don't complain to me but for me at least it is it seems at least a solid as I so
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why not and I really really like San Francisco fun tonight it's good for
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testing and stuff but I spent a week using it on my 5s before aid took the
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plunge with my phone sex and I really really liked it really really love I
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love the size and I know that the screen is smaller and you know rocketing
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towards needing reading glasses so I appreciate the bigger screen size but
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just as something to carry around I i i would do it but the big butt is here's
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here's how I think they're gonna do the phones this year and I don't think it's
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hard to predict I think they'll come out with iPhone 6 as an iPhone 6 plus and
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they will be exactly at the prices of the current iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 place
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and it will have a new a nine system-on-a-chip instead of the eight
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and 11 new camera in both
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I guess when people say the rumors that there's gonna be a a rose gold option
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that makes sense to me and you know just like when they first went to the iPhone
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5 s was when they added the gold just so this is something that looks like them
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different yeah and you can't say you can tell at a glance this is the new one who
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knows maybe though even-handed eyes the the aluminum differently go from space
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greatest piece black or something like that on the black one but just you know
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just a color difference or something like that then I think one teardown they
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will have a new phone called the iPhone 6 see which would be I think four inches
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possibly all new colors compared to the five see I was being so we'll probably
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the iPod colors that's exactly like instead of that sort of past le pallet
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may be more of like a bold bolder colors like the new like the new iPods yeah
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exactly what you mean they come in silver and gold to yeah well but I don't
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think they would do that with class you don't think they would do those with
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these are no there are limited but I think colors like those colors yeah but
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I think it'll be the same type of plastic case that the five C as in you
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know just just with new colors AAA
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the camera from the six i phone sex and because the case of sticker you won't
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have the little nubbins to get a little sit flush it'll be just like an iPhone
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sex except a four-inch screen and a plastic exterior which is a great phone
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and I'll be very tempted by a but I suspect by the bigger one because I want
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the camera really even more than the bastards system-on-a-chip as I want the
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best camera possible I think I might get it
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I would be very tempted I think I really just prefer that size and and I held one
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of those printed 15 see them before but held again recently and I really liked
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it I just felt really good and in the plastic given the plastic that's a nice
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plastic and the seams are well put together a nice little phone so I
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actually think I'm gonna go where you have right now at six so it seemed the
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same phone just a smaller smaller size in plastic
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64 so that would be that would be a question for ya I wonder if they do well
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actually no I think the iPhone 5 at 16:16 32 so what you need is you need
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Apple to the minimum rate they would have to if they go 32 64 128 then the
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two tiers for the mid tier one would be 32 and 64 yeah I I could say I could see
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them doing it I really could and then and then I think the I guess the 50 S
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moves down to become the the free phone that is a little weird that's where it
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maybe they keep the five see around you know and have the five see in the
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sixties it is it is a little weird at the bottom party at the bottom was with
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was confusing to me what do they do down there they have to have a free phone
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right and it gets the reason it seems a little weird to have the five SP the
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free one is without turning it on and without knowing what the specs are of
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the system on a chip or the camera
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it just looks like it the more premium device compared to the plastic five see
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so I don't know they could just do a 5s 5s internals and plastic yeah but what
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they call it they already have a five see five ccs this is the Apple circa
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1993 would have been done for me to perform at the iPhone perform performace
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6400 CD of course it's called the CD has a compact disc player 640 I CD it has
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wifi of course we have to put an eye on what do you think
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do you think you think you're gonna go smaller if I can get 64 I think I will
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if it if what we're describing is what it is a bit if it's basically iPhone 6
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internals and a plastic case in the cases are not the current ones the
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colors are not the current ones they're more like the current iPod ones in the
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current place see how can I get 64 gigs I will probably go with 666 see i think
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im sexy and I told you I do and having spent a week with it just now and I've
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never done that before you know like I usually buy you know nine months into
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the iPhone cycle I can't go back to the old one cuz it feels too slow but the 5s
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to meet only hold up and it feels a little bit slower than the six but not
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much Its a really good found a 5-2 me like probably the best I've ever made
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like it's hot it's held up passage prime better than any previous phone and I
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miss that form factor great detriment to that phone to me is that this was the
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pinnacle
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from technology and just the way that the sides are flat and the size of it
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feels to me like I couldn't drop it if I wanted to just it just feels like a
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probable whereas the six just feels it still feels like it's it's a slippery
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the bar soap every time you take it out
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yeah well they don't let us know that you let me do another sponsor and it is
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our good friends this it is a coincidence I i dont said these
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schedules but to me it's as they're happy to sort of coincidence that works
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out at it shows that we're living life rate John it's our friends at Hull 08
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you lol they make you know if they make them make pillows
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everybody is probably gonna be a vegetarian
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you know all the stuff we're doing well I would like that grown that meet grown
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slaughtered to be turned into a steak who is like a few want to pluck my hair
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out much prefer let's make a deal to see that the thing with that el chapo guy
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down in mexico no you don't see this the drugs the drug guy who who broke out of
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prison so I forget his real name but everybody just calls em chapo he's a
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Mexican drug lord campaign sort of it was the guy who was the head of the
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prison and he went on the lam and then you know the us- got involved and last
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like light life on the lam was apparently really tough for this guy but
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there's reports now from other people that it wasn't even the Mexican special
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place it was us' DEA agents wearing the Mexican Federal Police uniforms just for
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the optics you know that they do know that it didn't look it doesn't look at
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the people in Mexico if you us' you know law enforcement agents are running
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around Mexico but they arrested the guy and aus said let us take this guy
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extradite him let us charges in the us-
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I busted out and and as they were arresting them in you know arraigned in
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whatever they call it the guy swore he stood up and he said you know I'm going
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to bust out again and the Mexican government said no you know I'm not this
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time we're putting a supermax prison in unbreakable and I and the other guy
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broke out again broke out my my joke is that they run the place like Arkham
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story that they said the day after he broke out is that they somebody you know
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sympathetic to his cause some of the guys from this is you know it's cartel
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they they started making the building there is a building that was put up a
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cinder block type you know very very simple structure about a mile outside
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the prison and then inside this building this they dug a hole and they started
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digging they dug a tunnel underneath the prison right into his cell and then they
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cut like a little 20 inch by twenty cents a square hole in the shower in the
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shower in his cell and so there's video footage is his cell was under
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twenty-four hours seven days a week
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surveillance video surveillance they have the footage he just peace in their
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pacing for a couple of minutes and then he walks over to the bed put on a pair
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of shoes and he walks into the shower and need and he just disappeared just go
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you know like mining level expertise digging these tunnels because apparently
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that's how they get a lot of the drugs into the united states that they've
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they've got a good network of tunnels like this but you know it's a mile and a
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little you know hand and tunnel but but they had like a little track down there
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pretty cool they have pictures of it you know they've shown the media they they
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they rigged up like a dirt bike motorcycle on track so he didn't have to
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call the whole way and they had like lights down there to it you know but
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then he could just get on this little bite that on a track and then it would
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just screwed on right out to this building and now and now he's gone
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related is located in ventilated tunnel nearly a mile but now it appears there's
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some there's some there's some controversy about it though because
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the media down into the tunnel and they've let people into his cell and
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look at the whole that was dug and China flashlight down there but nobody has
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verified that the tunnel goes all the way from this building right into his
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cell and there's so the conspiracy theory is that he didn't even have to do
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that he did that part was fake to there'd be like some kind of cover story
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but that room getting out but yeah but that the corruption is so bad I was just
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so many like just waltz them out the front door yet that you know somebody
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you know decided you know and there's there's a couple people who work in the
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prison who've been arrested all ready for you know not doing their jobs but
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that maybe they took it you know maybe he cut them a deal where it's like you
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know you and your family so much money you know you'll do a couple of years
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five years but I'll make it worth your while and they did you know and then
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they made this fake tunnel just have a cover story I don't know either way that
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I know I like the previous
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and we think that they made the whole time yeah I do too that's much more much
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more romantic the other one is disappointing that is just simple
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corruption I don't mean to laugh I mean it's you know right
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kill anybody on the way out but somebody oh and the other thing this is the other
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part that makes it so amusing is that he got into it or some either here or
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somebody with his official Twitter account got into a bit of a ruckus with
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donald Trump have you heard this is sleeping so does I guess he busted out
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and Donald Trump it does fit right into donald trump's narrative that you know
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that mexico is not to be trusted in you know that there's sort of a criminal
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element road running while down there whatever I don't know donald Trump shut
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his mouth off that if he were president you know nobody breaking out of you know
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we did see that I didn't understand it
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chapel was but but then after he shot his mouth off there is an official
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Twitter account for el chapo that treated it better shut his mouth and
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Japanese media intern
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angrily
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interesting on a resume
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social social media manager for I just like they did think I busted out of the
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second you know they had the most secure prison in all of Mexico for the second
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time with all this publicity and he gets on Twitter and since starts getting
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upset Nadal of trouble as bad if anybody out there is listening from campus group
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highly respectful we are we are and who you know had talked to you for escaping
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no no no it's implied we don't need any help shop open but i just i just googled
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this chapo put 200 million dollar bounty for Donald Trump dead
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well that's from TMZ I don't know if that's true yeah you know if only if it
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comes straight from his Twitter account can you can you trust has the check mark
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notified verified chapo what else is going on in a follow-up to follow up on
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that with Jason snow on the previous episode we had talked about the new
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pebble time and I complained about the mighty big complaint about the iPod
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worry that the screen is very very low contrast I couldn't read it and the
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partner too small and that the the the vibration alert is way too strong and
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powerful
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so they came out in the meantime I guess they did listen to my show they put out
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a software update that gives you a little bit of control over the screen
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and over the tactic response and so i guess im email from people who like holy
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cow you just complained about this you know they've fixed it doesn't really fix
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either of them in my opinion the topic thing maybe a little bit but it still is
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is tactic thing it seems to be installed the update it does seem like turning
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that down lessens the feeling like I'm getting an electric shock when it
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vibrates embarrassed but it still loud I still can hear it and brightness thing
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isn't doesn't solve any of the problems at all because the brightness is only
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but it doesn't help the contrast at all and it doesn't help at all with the lack
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of contrast when the backlight isn't on at all so I still have to give a thumbs
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down to the time the SmartWatch market share numbers that came out I guess so
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yeah that's a that's part of the news from this week we're in the SmartWatch
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doesn't say specifically Apple Samsung and others and people would think people
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would be bigger than Samsung but I really have no idea about that Samsung
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might be helpful but gotta rank somewhere on their they've sold you know
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the only the only have three Apple Samsung and others so this is a strategy
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cue to 2015 which doesn't mean it doesn't seem terribly surprising
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even though even though nobody really knows I know nobody knows so there but
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nobody wrong on the other hand over to know how many Samsung has ever ship
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because Samsung stop eating all those numbers for everything not just for
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watches but first smartphones and stuff to a while ago so you know I think
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missus with Dan and on our show and why is Apple AAPL the one that seems report
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all this stuff and nobody else yeah it's always a little funny to me at that
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Apple which has long had the reputation as being the most secretive companies is
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the one that you know the most about its sales and stuff like that and now that
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they're not there's there's still being held to a different standard Amazon
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doesn't even know what label on access I like the port numbers now sits now and
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he was tweeting or posting some of the results you know from other companies
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that posted stuff you know the last week or two
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interminable is reported its quarterly results and couple other companies 22 he
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calls them Amazon hurts so among the many charges he made for Apple's
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quarterly results he made 14 Applewhite sales and it's just has a bunch of
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quarters with nothing going up but then all I'm going up and with no access to
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three sales are up I'm since before it was not the first quarter is really the
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best trained shoot straight up
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so I haven't really been paying attention what has happened to Apple's
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stock price since then I know overnight when it first with the first release
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their results
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their stock dropped 6 percent overnight it still down although it's not yet
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returned a little bit well from the way they reported the results
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yeah so its 122 now before they announced the results of its up around
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like 130 thirty-two year yeah but it's been sort of flat since about February
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you know going up and down but getting out of that same range which you know
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again my financial expert but it it seems to make sense to me that large
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very large and predictable companies should have a relatively stable stuck
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like I don't know if it has been and I can laugh because i dont have my money
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but I and I worry sometimes I was thinking about the other day that I
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cracked jokes about the volatility of Apple's stock price and I occurred to me
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that there's probably an awful lot of people who read during fireball listen
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to the show who is very fun and again and I don't think it's you know I don't
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think it's the needs over there you know there there are fans of Apple so they
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put their money in Apple I think it's probably because they're smart people
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and I think that a reasonable person could reasonably expect that their
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future is remained break so I just had nothing to do with you know investing in
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the company's you're a fan it's right and i think that when they when they
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reveal record-breaking quarterly results and this and the market cap drops fifty
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billion dollars in after-hours trading it's not very funny at all where we
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laughing I do think in all seriousness though I think and again I'm not an
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expert I know I know that you know one of the strategic differences the company
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has made in this Tim Cook area from the Steve Jobs era is that they've gotten
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documentary coming out about Steve Jobs the documentary yeah that was not the
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making this up it seemed weird to me and I was like 10th or 11th grade and it
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planet who are trying to take over the earth or something like that and the bad
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into town and then suddenly begins right but I guess I guess I like mail ordered
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Dianetics all the time
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yeah yeah yeah with exploding and stuff like that you know they sent me some
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fight and my dad you know it wasn't like an intervention but my dad was like how
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come all this stuff is coming for you
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well-regarded and and I thought I enjoyed it but I didn't think I enjoyed
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documentary but now he's made one about Steve Jobs in this is the one of the
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mean-spirited or something like that yeah we knew yeah and I guess he saw it
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it without having seen it and the preview looks great up the trailer in
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the in the show notes here I am copying and pasting it right now so I don't
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forget doing a good job just as a medic no I do think I've been doing a better
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job of actually putting in a claim to put in Charlotte the trailer looks
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interesting and it makes it look like it's you know a fair balance look at the
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guy's life but the poster to me is a little worrisome did you see that have
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you seen the post sir no I'm not trying to link to know poster is sort of a
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weird so this is Steve Jobs the man in the machine yes not to be confused with
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the other popular movie ex machina
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Steve Jobs build the robot man wearing where's the poster for this movie I
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don't know gotta find the position the one that's just a space yeah it's like a
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weird photoshop job that's not what you know its they've they've they've sort of
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you can find the original image for that and it's like they've made him look
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sinister I don't know how else to say it but they've sort of sinister
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standing in a room kinda gave Mike devil eyes you know I mean like they've
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they've had different yeah well he had you know very dark very dark eyes so his
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cornea iris like that but it makes it look sort of like that what happened to
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Anakin Skywalker when he went to the dark side so I'm a little worried I do
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watch the Ashton Kutcher one I have not seen any of them I did not see this one
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beating and more power to them because I don't feel like this is a dirty trick
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to come out beforehand and you can kind of piggyback you know on the publicity
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yeah but I'm not quite sure how how is screened at South by Southwest in March
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and isn't coming out until September I don't know if they have the sort of a
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pre-release yeah I was out like a rough cut or that you don't know any cute
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it seems like you could you could kind of portrayed him in any way you want to
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show you can portray him in many different ways
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well there's definitely there's definitely some things about Steve Jobs
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that weren't great think anybody necessarily denies that but a new future
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if you choose if you chose to just show those things though it wouldn't
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necessarily be an accurate picture right so be curious and sounds as though you
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you know he's he's gotten some people who used to work for him to to you know
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yeah but nobody was ever laid back but I think most of his his worst screaming
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still some good stories from recent years you know of no yelling and
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screaming think what else is going on we're going to ask that Specter Specter
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absolutely no sense whatsoever so if if they if they released a trailer called
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everything at the Davis case would watch it and then regretted instantly but then
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he would he would watch he vouched for me that the trailer the second the new
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trailer for Specter was not not spoilery and I agree with his conclusion having
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seen it I don't feel like I know the plot of the movie really other than
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specter's yeah right I was bothered by the simulation that there's like some
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kind of boyhood connection between James Bond actor well this is a maybe I'm
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right but I don't I got a bad feeling about it
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indeed I agree that if you're if your position is correct then I so it's not
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that the best the best email I got from a reader saying hey I don't think we
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should I got to hit somebody wrote to me forget forget everybody writes me here's
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here's what made me feel better about it this is my face my fear is that
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Christoph Waltz is Blofeld now so far so good if they're not saying it they're
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saying Christoph Waltz is in the film they're saying he's like the leader of
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spektr if his name is Blofeld fantastic I but they haven't spoiled that I don't
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know if it is or not everybody is thinking maybe that would be great my
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worry is that they're gonna say take James Bond blow felder like long-lost
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brothers or something like that yeah there's something like family
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relationship or something like that and somebody who reads verifiable said you
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know I was worried about that too but then I thought about it and realized
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that there's no way even even if they had the idea to do that they'd realize
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they couldn't because Austin Powers did that and they would realize they would
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realize that they've stepped into the realm of parody ready and goofiness
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because Austin Powers and already done there with doctor Yves
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so they're worried the worrisome aspect would be if the people making making
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spektr have anything right and like they're putting the finishing touches on
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it right now they're doing that the color correction you know double double
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checking with spelling and all the titles in the credits you know make sure
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everybody's got their name spelled right in the credits entered into the editing
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this is the plot Austin Powers in here it seems to change before scenes in
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November to record some of these lines
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well the trend in the trailer it looks great doesn't it you know basically
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everything you want to see you know and James Montrealer yeah I also I like the
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idea that without any kind of single overarching plot that spanned all these
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films that they're tying together some of the characters from the entire Daniel
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real creepy looking guy just per Christensen he was the the bad guy
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pulling strings in Casino Royale and then at the end of Casino Royale James
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Bond shows up at his portion right and then it's you know the the best part of
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quantum of Solace is that it opens like immediately afterwards and he's got he's
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got them in the trunk of his car which is really cool it was kind of a cool cuz
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they never really did that with the bond they never really came together in any
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way they were all for the most part in a couple of references herein there in the
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summer for instance has never happened the other guy right but my favorite
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example of the opposite of that
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and back in the day when dan and I were you know review and all these movies
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they they used to recast a day just cast the same actor and totally different
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roles yeah and so in and you only live twice which was the one word bond goes
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to Japan sean connery film
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testers with one after Thunderball and he meets like that mi6 agent told
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British older British fellow who's you know has been their station guy and
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Tokyo for a long time and then get is a very nice guy but he says to James
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Bond's kind of a famous scene he's he's going to make him a drink and he's gonna
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make you my camera teenies stirred not shaken right and of course that's
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backwards but connery being a gentleman just says sure you know good you know
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don't make a fuss don't make a scene and then you know the poor guy before I
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think before he could even finish the drink he got stabbed
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anyway it happens that same actor is the guy who plays Blofeld diamonds are
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forever to movies later so 66 these early seventies the only way you would
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see the movies became a TV you know yeah you see it again is it came on TV right
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so why not right we like the guy we know the guy like makeup on and that in him
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like a week or anything he looked exactly the same except that instead of
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wearing a kimono he was wearing you know whatever you call those suits that
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Blofeld Nehru jacket yeah exactly I even posted an easter egg
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rate from Casino Royale ya gonna point which was the guy who tosses in the car
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keys in the parking lot as part of the building department car and then he like
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ran into somebody's car look like held no no no no spelled you go finger that's
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right yeah and and then the license plate
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things that because that's what color for a goldish I had no license plate to
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me was stretching it cause it's why I feel like if they were gonna do it on
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the license plate maybe it would have been more like the the atomic number for
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cold or something
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no I mean it's in Syria that I think the hex color was really stretching it it's
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not it's not really very goldfish but but his car was gold
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it was a gold-colored like Lexus or something like that and he doesn't mean
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it's like the exact same sweater I i to me it's like beyond cool incidents like
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maybe they weren't actually saying hey this is goldfinger maybe they were just
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kind of goofing around and it's not really yeah that's what it seems well
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yeah just a funny thing to put in ya like we have to have a guy who's gonna
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toss him the keys and we want him to you know he's going to he's going to be a
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jerk and purposefully back in his car into it so we're gonna make the guy a
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jerk who just sort of assumed that you know that he's you know the ballet and
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then once you go down that path of making the guy making goldfinger it's
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kind of a joke I saw another thing to up I will put it in the show knows somebody
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I didn't treat this yet but somebody found out so we figured out there
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there's a in one of the old in Fleming novels and it was her Majesty's Secret
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Service which was widely regarded as one of the best books that he wrote and
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that's the one that george hasn't Lazenby played the role and
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is is polarized outside I it's my least favorite of the classic Bond movies some
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people love it though but anyway in the novel James Bond has to escape from
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somewhere and he doesn't have any weapons on him so he uses his role acts
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as a quote unquote knuckle Buster so it's like brass knuckles so he takes his
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Rolex off but around his fists and stainless steel Rolex do you know muscle
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jobs and then even said it was again the novel was like like the next day he
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liked woke up and the first thing he did was go to Lake jeweler to get a new
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Rolex because it's it's only it's a somehow it's like described as a key
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only whites that you can trust to like crack skulls with somebody figured out
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by free streaming casino route at the very end of Casino Royale in the fight
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scene in Venice while the building is sinking at some point when James by this
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fighting those guys there's a scene where it looks like he turned his left
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wrist upside down as though the way you would take off your watch and then cut
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immediately but then if you look at all of the punches he throws in the next
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scene as you can see the Daniel Craig has a watch around is very clear yet
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very very very thing and so the speculation is that you know but there's
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also and that's the one with the really really prominent product placement we're
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on the train where he first meets Vesper Lynd and she's you know what you to know
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I need he says I am good at poker as I can read people and he reads her and
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then she tries to read him and she says you know but you have a Rolex and he
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goes Omega you know which is super super it not only is he wearing an Amiga
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wristwatch he says it and he says it is though it means that you know it's
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better there relax its like the best product placement they could ever have
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the speculation nobody knows it but the speculation is maybe the you know they
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were going to use it that way and they're making people like you don't we
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don't want to see the wife getting smashed
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I think they're not so I think if the only two people shut that down there out
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of their minds I think that that's it it would have liked even doubled what was
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already the best watch product placement and bond history but it was a tremendous
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amount to see those cars destroyed right exactly yeah I mean like Mercedes was a
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big part of jurrasic world haven't seen any dinner CDs gmail things everywhere
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in in even when there's one is one I thought was kind of egregious but I like
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the movie but the kids are the kids run off on their own escape their sort of
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person watching them and they were often thrown in there too they won't have a
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good time and she's just like plugging in through the terms of the the part and
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and so the older kids as they go see something I guess they go see the giant
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dinosaur thing and then the older kids says to the younger kid go see something
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else really cool and then they cut immediately to her Mercedes and then you
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know and like somebody walks in and you know it's sort of thing but it's like
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they clearly paid for that no way but yeah those things did shoot up and put
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out by by dinosaurs yeah yeah so who knows maybe it wasn't maybe it was just
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cut out just just for the sake of cutting out maybe it wasn't even at
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their request who knows but it was a nice I swear to God I will put it in the
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show notes but it was it's a nice homage to the original Ian Fleming's source
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material yeah so and it came about
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somehow the guy who wrote about it was on a movie blog and he got the tip from
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a collector who bought the original prop that Daniel Craig war for those scenes
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it was a replica of whatever Omega Seamaster he was wearing at the time but
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with US steel band but with a revised the watch itself was like rubber and he
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bought that original problem
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drove people it made him he was like I did you know somehow I guess he talked
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to somebody with the props department but it didn't make any sense that they
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would even have that prop and then he like went back and watched the movie
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role closely in like freeze framed and figured out you know where it is used
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how many movies as he and that's a good question I think I think he's in the 12
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now I think it's at least one more in that would bring him 25 right yeah yeah
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which you know and and would also bring him to you know you don't wanna run into
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the Roger Moore problem where you even even with Hollywood makeup you look just
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like two old yeah that he's not that old she's a great lady three when you feel
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really old by the time you like this action scenes were just fruits these
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guys struggling to move and then all of a sudden he's running I think that was
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all I think he had to like run up the stairs of the Eiffel Tower it really was
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like this
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the add this stunt was just Roger Moore running up a four way to me out
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was no good for a week after that
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to his credit he was on the record is that he he wanted to wrap it up
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afterwards everyone he made in 1881 or something like that and yeah they yeah
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and just made two more he made two more than anyone in any way that feels like a
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show I don't have anything else on my list of time no talk about jon boat
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right thank you for returning to the show where working people get more and
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well animals on Twitter or very nice web sites and your podcast with with Dan
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Moren and usually Lex Friedman
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the rebound rebound cast that net and was the other one turn this car around
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with Lex and John Armstrong yeah thats parenting podcast yes and in business
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business yeah yeah coaster coasters whenever babies the theme park built
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around you should open a restaurant as a coaster restaurant yeah yeah
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combine the two
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definitely be a restaurant in the Burg my pleasure to pick up your kid
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