00:00:00 ◼ ► you Letterman fan yes you've been watching the end of the shop sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► yeah I watched last night and the night before the film re popping out of a cake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► was kind of shaking it was like it to me it was a real throwback to the eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/15">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► I mean that's the type of just nonsense from the late night show me a tease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/21">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► yeah and I don't know like some of it it almost seems like that the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/27">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► Murray was there was almost wasted but I guess not go so much of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/34">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► reminiscing and those and the you know the old videos and that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/38">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► but it was fun so we're recording on Wednesday the 20th letterman's final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/43">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► show will air actually is probably funny I didn't even think about it is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► recording it as as we are well that's actually kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► at this game you like goosebumps should hang up and go it's funny I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/57">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► gone i'ma huge letterman fans never once saw him live do kind of regret that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/64">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► never got to see Jordan live either so it's time for C Jordan I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/72">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► did I don't think I wasted all of those years I almost had I had to get once one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/78">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► time early on in the run of his show on CBS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/85">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► so this was probably I think about crime in 1998 thinking about where I lived at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/91">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► a roommate for a year and they did a thing where they were going to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/97">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► whole week shows where their audiences were all gonna be from the same city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► until one night that week the whole audience was from Philadelphia and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/108">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► contest and he did it and my roommate now that you know what we've never gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/113">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► with always wanted to see what senator this and will be in the Philly crowd and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/117">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► we want and what we've got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► thousands of people injured we were one of three you know three hundred got two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/124">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► seats and all we had to do was show up for the bus around noon and we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/129">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► bus everybody out together and we're getting ready to go and like checked his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/135">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► email and there is a thing of all you have to do is click this button by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/143">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► know last Friday you're good to go and then I was like just looked at it as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/147">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► get you freaking kidding me anything I'm sorry so we won but we didn't claim the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/155">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► tickets in time and so they guess the idea that the the idea behind it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/161">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► know they want to make sure they they filled the whole theater and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► thing was like ok you want but you sure you gonna go and then to do but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/169">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► meantime they held their seats with alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► again story I better than the show would have been maybe have never been to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/179">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► of those tapings and I even live in new york city and I've been here for now 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/185">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► years basically and I've never gone to on it but my first year in New York I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/191">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► found some email mailing list where you sign up and you get emails inviting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/196">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► to be in studio audiences for a random stuff and I've never even gone to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/201">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► those but it's funny to see the stuff that comes along it's a weird game shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► one day maybe I'll go to Fallon now that he's he's the man yea or the set my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/211">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► shoulders I i've you know I'm a little wistful about the letterman thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► guess I think he's right you know it's one of those things where I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/226">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► right that this is the time to go I do think he's just pick the right time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/232">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► think you know sooner would have been too soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► think probably as time but it still it's just how can that be sad if you're a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/238">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► yeah I wonder how much of it has to do with not just you know hosting the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/245">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► but all the other demands that being you know being a public figure in the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/251">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► today are for example he doesn't really do anything online he doesn't really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/255">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► anything in social media and I wonder how much of that gig now is is that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► of stuff maybe it's not I don't know now he's pretty clear about i think is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/264">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► the New York Times interview that he did too big interviews recently which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► unusual for him he's usually pretty decent but he did the New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/272">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► interview in rolling stone interview cover story really and I think maybe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► both places it was acknowledged that like the game today with the late night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► show is partly at least partly to make viral bits that you know that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/286">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► separated from the rest of the show five minutes on YouTube and can get shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► and that he really doesn't do that and it's not really set up to do that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/297">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► of the opposite of John Oliver which just basically exists to feed the Monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/303">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► morning blogger quote every single site rushing to summarize what they said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/309">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► before it is said that is exactly what happens with his show it is so funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/318">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► it's like what you just let people watch it yeah well that is one way you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/323">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► wink to let people watch it is to have them watch it on your blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► you know you're somewhere in commentary hey I really enjoyed your intimate look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/334">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► at your iPhone stands and I want to send you mine you posted this weekend during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/342">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► fireball your to iPhone docks and I think you'll get a kick out of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/349">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► that I bought for real is this real I don't want to even say you did you own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/356">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► stock in Tokyo I i'm not I don't even think we should talk about I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/363">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► put it in the show notes right now as day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► that it is you're gonna have to go and load the show and see this for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/372">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► because there's absolutely no way that we can do justice to it unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/381">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► really want to talk about other study the backstory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► here's what I think I don't remember I know where I found it I found it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/388">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► Tokyo hands which is the greatest it's it's kind of a mixture of a Home Depot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/394">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► and I don't like a Bed Bath and Beyond or something like that it's a just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/401">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► great home and hardware store in Tokyo and I think it it I don't think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/407">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► same company that makes the incredibly realistic food models you would see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/415">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► outside of a Japanese restaurant where you know that each little piece of sushi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/421">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► looks perfect in that kind of stuff I bought those in the past does this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► have a charger now now so it just prompts it up it's just a problem I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/431">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► a six plus I don't need a church's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► anyway the year before about this I got an iphone4s case that's bacon and eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/440">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► and that looks even more ridiculous but so this cheeseburger iPhone holder is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/447">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► my favorite I wanted to get one for the office but I was worried that someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► with Snagit is just so crazy I i've been meaning to write about these iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/459">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► docks for a while and it's just one of those things where I didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► reason to an end when at so the thing is Apple came out yesterday right now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► the context with a new lightning thing and it's just been like over the I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/470">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► having an iPhone dock charging dock though I like it I like did you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► I'm gonna have to charge my phone while my desk or something like that why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/482">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► have a doc it's better than having to lay down but over the years it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/486">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► been like nobody can ever keep it straight like the original iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► shipped with the doc right it was a great there in the box and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/496">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► great dog and then didn't fit the 3G or 3G s and then they didn't come with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/501">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► dog and then the iPhone 4 came out and it turned out the iPhone 4 fit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/507">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► original iPhone dock really well even though the iPhone 4 had like a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► square bottom an original iPhone was more like the Apple watch sort of a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► pill shape capsule shaped thing it just fit in that crevice they had for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/520">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► perfectly and the 30 pin was more than enough to keep its stable so I went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/525">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► to the original talk with my from foreign Poor s that ever since it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/531">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► a shitshow I am I never had a doc until the elevation dock which came what two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/537">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► weeks before the state courts which hear that was it for me they're not buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/545">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► anymore I somehow wound up with two elevation docs I think I bought one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► did the Kickstarter and then I think they sent me one is like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► in my role as you know may be linked to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► public figure type thing I know I don't remember buying too but somehow I wound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► up with the two and never used either because exactly they only shipped like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/566">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► to it was 30 pin and only ship two weeks before the first lightning phone came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► out against that must've been the iPhone 5 yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► and they did have a thing where you can you can go there now even and get like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/580">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► kid so you can transform it in from a 30 pin thing to it lighting thing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/585">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► know who I said do that well I'm sure some people don't know nor I the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/591">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► things for me with the doc is in most cases you want to be able to use it one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► handed in other words you don't have to put one hand on the dock and one hand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/602">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► the phone to separate it without picking up the dock with the phone and you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/606">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► to be able to fit I like the idea just how I waste money on everything I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/614">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► like the idea of getting a dock and then being able to use it for maybe more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► a year just in case the iPhone shapes sizes changes so I like the idea of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/623">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► dock that is sort of agnostic to the shape of the iPhone future-proof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/630">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► future-proof make sense to because so many people use a case now and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/634">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► that's a slightly different shape then home with no case or there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/642">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► different sizes you know there's 45 °c 5s 66 + so lots of different phones to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/648">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► handle with what with one design yeah the new iPhone dock from Apple seems I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/658">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► i'm curious how I guess I'll buy one just because I'm really bad with money I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/665">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► don't need it but I'm curious about how it works I guess I'll buy one because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► doesn't have any kind of the only thing that it it's just a lightning not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► that sticks out of a flat piece of plastic there is no back there's no slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► that the phone goes into its just a lightning lightning port itself is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/684">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► only thing that's going to support the phone which sounds like it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► little fragile but I don't know maybe they've figured some way to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/693">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► makes me feel less responsible for picking my phone up by its lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/698">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► cable all the time which I do ya do you do have a problem are you you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/702">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► lightning cables kinda wear out over time because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► has not happened yet in fact the 1 I'm using now as a third party one and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/710">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► that one has has been really good so it seems like it's tricky business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/716">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► designing the doc because it like you said number one future proofing it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► want to go for different thicknesses and widths of the iPhone and then you wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/725">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► go case or no case and how many do you know how many types of cases can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► managed to support tetra and how easy do you want to be too dark and undock it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/733">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► whereas it seems that lightning has its own kind of tension system built in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/740">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► yeah I don't know I don't you that's why I don't use a doc just kinda plugin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/746">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► plopped down on the table next to me I have a question for you though which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/753">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► why do you think they made this or if they'd had a long time ago why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/761">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► think they decided to ship it now somebody said and I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/766">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► right or not but somebody said on Twitter that the docs over the years a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/770">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► lot of them that Apple is Apple's own first party dock for iPhone has often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/775">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► come out mid cycle on the iPhone that they didn't come out alongside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► phones and I don't know why that would be a somebody else who tweeted that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► think is Jeremy horowitz whose nine-to-five Mac now that he I guess he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/787">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► got one already and he read the fine print on the boxer ever and it was 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/792">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► so it must have you know they must have started assembling them months ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/798">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► they didn't start selling them until now I don't quite get it I think the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/802">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► idea though is that for some people a doc whether you use it at your desk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/808">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► use it like at your bedside or both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► it's you know it's a sensible place if you're going to charge your phone at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► same place all the time it makes sense to have a doc and said it just a cable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/818">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► mean I can't you just have a cable you definitely can do it one handed you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/822">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► so the one hand ability is definitely to me a convenience and I got my desk I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/827">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► developing in a working on the basis of Esperance stuff like that as it may I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/833">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► know almost all developers have some kind of doc said that they can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► their phone in a usable readable state alongside their their computer I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/840">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► some corrections to make sure you get this out let's do it actually a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/845">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► these are pretty old pocket show i dont have two months ago and we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/851">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► about aspirin and whether it was something that was thousands of euros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/857">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► old or a hundred years old so aspirin as we know it was first produced a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/862">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► ten years ago in late 1800's sort of a snake oil type thing but it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/868">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► worked but the natural form of it which is called Saleh Cilic asset is found in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/873">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► plants ie the willow and murder and has been used for thousands of years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/882">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► that's the source of the confusion as early as 3000 BC the ancient Egyptians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► used willow bark and myrtle to reduce pain and fever and those are some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/891">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► ingredients they were used to make aspirin starting in the late 1800's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/897">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► it's sort of a little bit of column a little bit of column be another note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/902">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► here on him which show that I think it was Marilyn man we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/908">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► these are old shows yeah I forgot to have these notes for all the follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/913">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► on the corrections and I really this should be a very long list because a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► of mistakes every episode but when Maryland's on and we had a discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► about when to start our growing children watch which movies and I said that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/925">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► know Caddyshack him about it said no of course Jones hadn't seen Caddyshack it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► and then my wife was actually listening to the show and she goes you dummy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/935">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► let him watch Caddyshack remembered yes we did so yeah I let my son watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► Caddyshack I think ten I think that's what I first thought too much for dats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/943">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► I remember my dad likes to do in front of the TV for a couple minutes during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/950">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► one scene is a right to look over there for a second and does a great movie to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/956">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► see and then you watch it again like 50 times a college in you is a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/962">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► different movie at that point but why not again no idea which episode this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/966">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► for somebody I don't know I guess we're talking about some of my problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/974">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► we're talking about that would be Parker should make a monocle and up they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► make a monocle I put that show notes will be partner does make a model I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/982">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► don't know that I would recommend it it seems to me like that sort of taken you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/987">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► know the hipster hipster thing a little far gone with monocle but its marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/993">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► man will be monocle harry goes right in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► Joanna stern Joanna stern was the great transformers on the show a few weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► and we were talking about these both of us had turned out but the same Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► headset keeps our kids this little bit powerbeats a Bluetooth they're meant for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► like you know where my exercise and stuff I've never had Bluetooth Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► and front know so I never had before and I bought them while I was testing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► watch because I wanted to test like $280 ones yeah you know like everything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► beets are pretty expensive I find I've been pretty happy with him so far too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► pretty comfortable news of the ones they had that little like kind of finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► coming off them that holds in your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► yeah sorta there's a good thing that wraps around your ear and then there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► thing that goes in your yeah but the complaint we both had was that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► latency was really bad just the Bluetooth latency so like when you pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► it was like I felt to me I don't know what it really was but it felt to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► like a candidate who goes by before the audio actually pauses then hit play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► again in a second or two before it plays it which was like driving me nuts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► somebody send it I forget who sorry I don't remember that you gotta run to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► beat updater there's a firmware update for these headphones go to Apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► China and anybody who bought these things got it never even occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► I guess it makes sense that there would be such a thing but I've never thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► of headphones is having firmware that you could update see you run this beads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► updater and it still is not quite get it I don't think Bluetooth can ever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► know is ever going to match the latency of hardware but you know I got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► cable but it's a get it reduces the latency all the way down to what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► expected at the outset there's like a fraction of a second where when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► pause until it actually pauses and there's a fraction of a second when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► go to restart the idea before it actually started playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► but it seems totally reasonable way different than what it was when I opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► the box to anybody out there who buys like these beats headphones you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► these Bluetooth ones and you find the latency is like insane like how could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► get this updater debaters weird to think I'm a cat that you run that then goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► open a web page in Safari and it's the web page that shows you the progress as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► it updates at a nightclub in your device by USB very strange but it worked is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► that amazing software update for your headphones I just never would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► occurred to me to look how do you how do you charge them and how often do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► charge USB you charge by USB there's a little micro USB thing on the bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► the left ear piece has a rubber now been that covers it I guess for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► water resistance to deploy them by USB so that the fact that Apple made that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► iPhone dock and does not yet have a proper charging station is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1193">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► that puzzles me but now charging station for what we now have three things i plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► in almost every night four if you count this new MacBook and now if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► wireless headphones us five so someone's gotta do it could be a polite I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► someone's gotta do they the best charging station possible so how long do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► I think that they say they last like six hours that's 1 I've been running a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► recently last you know since the weather's getting nicer and I did have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► one run where my headphones conked out halfway through and i got very confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► it just was just plays a little sad song like you do do do do do and I guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► means rather juice by and then they got nothing to hide I try to remember to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► charge him every every second day or two I don't know hard to know what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► do you get a little battery meter in in your status bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► iOS so it's like when you have them paired with your phone it shows up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► between your phone's battery indicator and the little Bluetooth icon in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► status bar there's a little vertical battery little tiny ones actually hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► for me to see what I can come together a picture of whether it's like mostly full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► of mostly empty so you can see the battery on your phone to charge of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► front i recall fiddly enough it's it the whole thing is fiddly enough that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► I now understand why Apple doesn't ship their own wireless headphones yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► it works well with the watch it did in my testing but in in real life I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► know what I really want to listen to his podcast right and to listen to podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► I still need my phone so I'm still got my phone on my arm you know while I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► running it's you know I have it paired with my phone all that 99.9% uptime I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► did parent to the watch while testing it to see if it worked and it did work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► that's really only good for like music that you stick on your on your watch so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► strange they haven't didn't launch with podcast support but well yeah and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► know who knows who knows what the schedule is for third party apps like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► watch kidnap is never going to be able to do it there's no way you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► Marco can't make overcast store anything locally on the watch it right it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► you know white kid is all stuff that wrote you know runs in stores stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► the phone so the only way that you can get podcast on it now would be if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► put the actual podcast episodes in your iTunes library and then made a playlist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► in iTunes sounds like having an iPod 2002 you make a play list and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► tell your watch that the playlist I want to sink too but then you're stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► managing your podcast by hand like you know like an animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► yeah it's not worth the yet now I mean it would in theory be nice I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► to go running without the phone and just have to watch and I don't care about GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► but its to have the podcast to listen to us on the phone call but also got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► correction wise oh one more thing and this is like super nerdy this was last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► week with with David sparks on the show and I said it was my mistake not is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► RTF you know the rich text format txt Edit has long day defaulted to I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► all the way back to the next days before next was purchased by by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► you know the rich text format and add some Microsoft originated format was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► sort of cross-platform styled text wasn't supported I'll as I said it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► isn't supported in the west and is talking about the complications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► people you know you have if you if you restore your text anything but plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► text that long-term eventually whatever styled text format you have chosen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► use is not going to be supported anymore and it turns out rich text format is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► iowa's as of Iowa 7 I was 7 added it and I'll put a link in the show not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► said and asked are at rtf txt document type in iOS has a bias seven but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► that recently as I guess it's two years ago but I did not know what anyway from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► iOS 136 there was no RTF support so I was kind of what format does the Notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► app use that's a very good question I think that it now uses HTML under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► hood interesting as I believe it does styling right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► yeah they didn't used to it now it does and I believe it it's gmail it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► kind of it under the hood but you're not supposed to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► yeah interesting what is Vesper use plain text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► oh that's right right to which you know is a very deliberate choice on our part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► and that I think that I now I think I've cleared the deck on corrections of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► mistakes because of those Bluetooth earbuds well I remember I did go on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► the Apple store two weeks ago and just kind of looking at the options that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► out there in case I was gonna do an impulse purchase and the guy they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► kind of show be all the different options in and that's the one that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► recommended but even those looked a little cumbersome which one that meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► once the one thing yeah you know what drives me nuts about it just I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► they didn't make them they're probably designed before the beats acquisition by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► Apple and I know that they're you know they're made for any anybody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► they're not like meant to be paired with an Apple product they're meant to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► paired with any product that supports Bluetooth but the little clicky thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► for plus minus and play pause and that has the microphone on it is on the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► strain not the right strength and every Apple one ever made is on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► training and so I still have the habit where I go deposit while wearing them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► reach up with my right hand and I fish around and can't feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► I have experienced the same thing these Bose headphones I'm wearing now have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► on the left your phone I guess whatever you call it and it why would you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► here in designer like I know that you can't just say what happened to the dis- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► way so it's a standard but it's a defacto standard because nobody makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► more headphones an apple and got was probably the number one headphone maker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► in the world is probably more pairs of his way here but there than any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► had phone in existence I guess in this case because there is only one chord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► coming off to them these are can had bones earbuds I guess by definition you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► have to have two chords so all the earbuds obscene do it on the right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► don't know strange I let me take a break and thank our first sponsor and it's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1626">TS</a>]
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00:27:19 ◼ ► talked about Squarespace all the time because they're often sponsor the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► best way to think about Squarespace is that they are like next generation their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► league leveling up on hosting your own website like the old school way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► hosting website is you get some kind of account and then you have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► folders and directories that you SFTP end and you just make all your sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► with files and images and thrown out there and and do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► Squarespace is so much far beyond that do not a web they are an all-in-one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► platform and it do you start with something that is so much more advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► it's it's like if you're making an ad in today's world you start with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► incredible frameworks you know I cocoa for iOS or the android framework for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► Squarespace is like that for a website you start with this tremendous framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► that has all this sort of stuff you need and you're working at such a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► level and it is great for both sides of the expertise fence if you are the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► of person who doesn't know the technical stuff like HTML syntax how to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► JavaScript how to write CSS it's great because you can design your own website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► visually like using an app just looking at it and making it look the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► think it should look and then that's the way it really is but if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► technical expertise and I bet a lot of people who listen to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► do you know how to build your own site by hand with a team of stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► you might think well then I don't need Squarespace where you don't need it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► it could really really just give you a leg up and you can get started you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► be finished in minutes maybe but ours even with a lot of tweaking as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► two days or weeks because they give you the Hawks review want to inject your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► JavaScript into a page because you're using you know some kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► has a JavaScript API you can do that if you want to tweak the CSS you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► to just use the visuals are you actually want to get in there and do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► specific in the CSU can do that too so you've got the automatic mode but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► can like switch to manual if you want really really great stuff and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► just save so much time and be relieved of so many details that you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► to worry about everything looks professional so many professionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► designed templates to choose from and all just starting points were you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► we can modify them from there and you can use it to build just about any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► of site you can imagine an online store Squarespace has her own commerce stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► you blog you can use it for podcasting they have their own they even let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► host the audio there they take care of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► so where do you go to find out if you have a website to build any kind of idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► for a website go to Squarespace dot com you get a free trial you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► everything with it with the free trial and you don't need to put a credit card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► in the pants and then you are ready to buy used this offer code jeje just my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► initials J G and you will save 10% off your first purchase from my thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► Squarespace build it beautiful that's earned a slogan so what's going on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► know I got yesterday what's that I got my my personal Apple well I got the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► that I ordered one minute after they went on sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► space black link bracelet I like it I i like it a lot I'm very very happy that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► picked this one man who are you wearing with the review unit mostly mostly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► link bracelet hadn't had one so yeah I got the book The watched they ask me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► know when the week before I got the review that you know they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► which one you want and we're not ceding review units of the edition models so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► they could have anyone you want except the addition which I would not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► asked for any way have you seen one yet in a while I have had not not outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► either or an Apple event of a common thing about writing about that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► hold that thought and I asked for this when I asked for I said ok I'll take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► space black person and he said ok and then when I got my review unit there we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► couldn't give you that I'm sorry and so they gave me the regular link bracelet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► you know i i has why in this day just gimme that Apple like we don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► we're not going to tell you I and I was but my guest you know just based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► shipping times is that they just were backlogged production lines even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► the relatively few number that they would need for you know review unit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► definitely for sure they'll even bike back at the end of March when I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► review unit I saw Apple employees who were wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► it so there you know people who were within Apple have had the black space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► space black link bracelet you know since March at least if not earlier I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► schiller tweeted a while a couple weeks ago somebody asked him on Twitter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► she wears and he he has the black so I like a lot i dont no idea why it took so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► long to ship but I guess it you know whatever the wherever they're producing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► these things they must have been lower priority than some of the other models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► and well as the process like shifting over from my watch to the other did is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► not really that much living on the watch so no so I've done this before because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► had that bomb had the bomb review unit so I did it like one day in and forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► why I don't know if i was just curious and tinkering but a few weeks later I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► not because I needed to I had any kind of problem but just like forget why oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► know why because I wanted to see what it was like to use it with an iPhone 5s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► instead of a six and so I had two unpaired from my sex my sim card back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► my old iPhone 5 and go through it again so I've done this a few times it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► actually it too bad but it's kind of a pain in the ass takes about 15 to 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► minutes part of it is that when you unpaired it makes a backup of the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► on the phone and the backup is not in iCloud it's only on the phone it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► part of the data of that Apple watch on the phone and so uncaring takes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2034">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► five minutes do you think white house take prime minister because it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► the back then the next time you pair and Applewhite whether it's the same one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► a different physical thing when you when you go through the Apple what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► any of your backups and I secretly hate backups and you can't delete those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► backups yet maybe sometime I guess I'll update the app so you can delete them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► but but there's a time stamp on it so you can see you know give me the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► that I did backed up ten minutes and then takes like another 5 10 minutes 44 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► that to restore there's a few other things that always forget to do like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► always forget to set up a up again and it makes sense that that doesn't carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► over because it's you know the Secure Element things aren't part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► software you know the whole point of it being a secure element is that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► separate storage so you have to every time you do it you have to reach you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► know start out will pay all of its also a different card number for each device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► each device gets a different unique identifier not just you know so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► there's no way that you can just restore from backup and have that come over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► which is good Yeah yeah yeah it makes it wouldn't be is it wouldn't be security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► if if if it works but it is unfortunately there for a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► less convenient design ever I actually remembered with this one cuz I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► burned like two or three times with the old one when i reset it but this time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► remember just but then you go to like you know you go to use Apple pain you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► sit down you double click on the thing and it's like I haven't set it up yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► and you restore your restored your personal watch offer the backup from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► test you in it and that worked well yeah perfectly cool yeah I don't like six and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► one half a dozen of the other I don't even know what also with a loss you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► they're absurd gonna come over anyway there just isn't that much I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► know it's that I didn't have to reset and reconfigure on my watch faces right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► yeah that's why I switched to my personal one after three or four days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► with the review unit so I just started from scratch I figured well I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► I'll just start over but I imagine at this point you set up enough stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► you don't want to have to think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► yeah more or less but even so I don't have that many watch faces configured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► and they're not that hard to fiddle with and i play with them and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► why I would save all Apple products it's the one where the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► restoring from backup and starting all over is probably the least you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► least difference do you do you have like a mental algorithm as to where you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► different apps I've spent most of the last seven weeks with him in random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► places to sleep with the ones that I do use the most centered around the clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► face and then led all the elements be random I switched to a new system the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► other day I guess I maybe was when I got this watch and they took some time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► know since it was a new watch it took some time to play with it and instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► making like a circle around the clock app i've i've said it up you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► some playing with but the way that they stick in that honeycomb pattern I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► made like a pyramid on top of the clock out in a separate pyramid below it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► then not much too though right or left of the clock app and the ones on top or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► a third party apps in 2012 down below are the built-in apps interesting i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► i've kept the third party app store the outside perimeter but I've tried to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► them as close as possible to their corresponding Apple app so I have city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► map burden next to the maps icon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► the various running apps that I'm testing next to the main work out but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► don't know and and I also tried to position them using the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► layout as my iPhone home screen so overcast as a bottom left their bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► right corner but I don't know if I'm going to stick with you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► just kind of half random set up I have to get rid of it the next after do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► just busy work on the watch is just have to delete about twenty of these yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► yeah like I've had it set up so that it installs just automatically whenever one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► of my iPhone apps gets an update with a white kid component it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► automatically puts it over cuz I wanted to be you know just show me everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► while and learning about this platform and experimenting with it but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► practice are you so few of them that just having them there just may it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► makes for it just makes it harder to find the ones I actually do use do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► sometimes I see the circle kind of filled in half weighed like it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► an update and just kind of sets like that for a while I don't know when or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► why and how to stop it i've seen that too but I found the best thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► when you get that if you have a third-party watch that it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► it's installing but it seems paused in like you said has that progress meter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► over the icon sometimes even there it just has the generic icon yeah I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► the best thing to do it's harder if you don't even know what happened but go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► the phone go to the Apple wiped out on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► go to that app and uninstall it and then reinstall that the wife is from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► in the watch out not delete the app on your iPhone and then ok right just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► lead it using the Apple watch ya so hard to talk about using the Apple watch app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► on the iPhone I think what I've been doing it just restarting the watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► that seems to fix it but I don't know I wonder if that's one of the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► that they've cleared up with a 1.21 because I mean it only came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► yesterday or the day before yesterday the day before maybe so it hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► enough time but I haven't seen it again you have any there I don't think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► much user facing stuff and that update no I don't think so either except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► them og oh yeah true and the new language support they did a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► languages that's good I V which will talk to you wearing a to once again when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► you when you had enough for a lot of talk about this when you received your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► was there are some sort of like space with you went to or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► was like a meeting place that you went to yeah I think technically I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► yeah but you go there but you know I but I just like any other product I've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► have personally never once received any reviews from Apple that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► talk to somebody from Apple and they did you know and it sounds annoying but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► they they they my experience also they're also very respectful of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► time and patience and they don't really waste your time but they definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► don't they don't just give you a box I certainly don't ship them to you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► know they just sort of run you through some basics no matter what the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► is and so yeah I went to New York and had a briefing alright I guess I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► know if I'm allowed to talk about this either I'm gonna say something cause why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► not use it was cool I I got mine after you got yours and I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► someone else I think Philip elmer-dewitt it was at the same kind of wave that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► was and I think he wrote about it in a in a somewhat cranky amusing way but was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► what was interesting is that at the thing I attended a full had brought in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► their two tables full of watches to give you a demo do and it's not an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► store this was you know totally different place and they had brought in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► those huge watch displays and I completely understand Sara Lee and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► thought it was pretty pretty interesting and unique that they did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► yeah they had the same thing well the funny thing is so years ago when was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► when they first they had a had a briefing for Mac OS 10 and I wrote about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► a 10 fireball right when when I was schiller yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► product in a couple other guys from this product marketing team and some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► from PR and I just wrote about the actual experience of the briefing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► had asked I C you know they were in it was the whole idea was they were giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► us access to Mac OS 10 10.8% 10.9% that but it was like they they had been on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► schedule or Mac OS 10 was getting updated every two years and they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► to get back on like every year schedule and that it was a surprise and they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► you know you wanna come meetin new york they didn't even tell me what it was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► it turned out it we were getting a pre-release version of you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► upcoming version of Mac OS 10 and I asked you know and they were like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► know I was like this on the record or after I cannot get on the record you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► know you can write about it you know we want you we want to start getting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► know we want you guys to use this they gave us like MacBook Air MacBook Pros I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► forget way to preloaded with it so we didn't have to put a beta regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► machines and ever get on the record you can talk about this you know but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2632">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► did not anticipate me going mad and writing about the actual briefing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► opposed to it was said about the thing and they weren't wasn't getting a nasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► gram or anything but then every other briefings sense they've always reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► me that they've changed they've changed the language of the white on the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► was off the record said that writing about the event the other breathing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► well they've called it the John Gruber here's the here's the fortune article by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► do it that will be the new Claas just say larry is trying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► photo credit Apple PR anyway I just thought that was an interesting example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► of going above above what's necessary to do something in a cool way and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► we'll have to edit this whole thing out I know I think it's alright so anyway to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► you ask me what I'm watch what I'm wearing it it's the blue sport version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► just might be the one I personally ordered and I love it I I tried out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► you know the main watch and they and I got the Milanese loop and the green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► sports band which is not doesn't look as crap I think the blue one looks really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► its I i noticed the weight difference between this one of the main one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► and I actually prefer the later 1 I'm not you know sign even for I'm not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► going on running with it all the time I just kind of like the lighter thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► owned a heavy kind of dude watch or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► yeah the last watcher war was a Casio calculator watch on ironically in middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2754">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► school or something I think anybody would get used to any weight watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► golden might always be it feels a little heavy but only in a way that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► you'd want a gold watch to feel like kinda don't want to forget that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► wearing gold watch but I i someone has warned that heaviest stainless steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► watch for a couple of years I found it a little bit hard to get used to it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► but quickly I noticed that most with I i've tried to just just experimenting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► with a polite i've tried wearing it on my right wrist just to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► left-handed mode is like and when I put it on my other rest I was a holy crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► this is but it's funny cuz my left wrist is so used to wearing lots that I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► noticed it but for people who haven't been wearing watch the last few years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► can totally see how the first impression would be I like the sport watch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► this feels just doesn't feel like I've got something laying down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► yeah it's I mean it's not a huge difference and and actually the Milanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► loop is lighter than the sport band so the all-in wait is almost the same but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► it just kind of distributed more evenly anyway the thing I like is sold to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► back to this the space black my my day you 24 hours with an impression is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► exactly what I thought it was going to be like when I bought it which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► it just looks like one shiny black object on my wrist especially when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► screen is off it doesn't look like shiny device with a black display it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► looks like a black thing on Pinterest and then when it lights up and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► gonna watch face it to me it looks really cool that you know it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► only thing you really see all the pixels of the watch face like it that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► that you can't see the edge between sapphire and stainless steel but at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► glance you can't it's all just shiny black it's a very it's a very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► factor my yeah I think that's a good look these the Steve aluminum sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► definitely when it's off kind of has a distinct look to its very bright and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► attracts a lot of late so it's I don't think this will age well one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► reasons I got the cheaper one as his I figure I'll be upgrading this price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► every generation for the foreseeable future so you know budget but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► definitely sticks out the other thing I notice and I'm curious to see cuz I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► the space black ones only started shipping a few days ago like I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► get the first one but I don't think anybody got one more than like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► three or four days before me and a friend of the show everybody internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► sweetheart Rene Ritchie was waiting for 12 and he his shame to ship the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► time minded but because he's going to Canada he probably get it till today but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► I bet he's got it I'm really curious to see if other people have this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► too is I when I tried to take the band off the bracelet off it was at first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► thought it was stuck like I you know and I'm used to taking it on and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► swatched swap the band on my review in it dozens of times over the last six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► weeks and even right from day one never really had a problem with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► you could pose little release buttons slide it out and it just goes out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► this space black 1 I'd click the button the button definitely win and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► bracelet just did not budge in that slot just didn't budge and at first and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► I really started to think maybe this is you know I've got another problem here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► so then I put it down on the table I really press the button hard and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► really put a little bit more force than I was comfortable exerting to slide the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► band out and it nudged a little bit and then once I got going a little bit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► could get it out but more or less it just felt like there was a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► friction and it was a very tight fit and then after I got both halves out once it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► never was that difficult to get you know to do it again but it's still even after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► doing it a few times has an amount of friction that is unlike the review so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► talked to Greg the guy the guy who has all these crazy core insight into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► metallurgy of that watch you know the hero that amazing post about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► Apple's doing with metal you know what I'm talking about on Twitter yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► asked him about it and he said like I was a do so do you think this DLC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► coating with that increase friction and he was like no the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► you know a lot of like high-end machine tools are used DLC coating to decrease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► friction so it's not the DLC coating his theory and it probably makes sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► is that I just happened to get like a bracelet that you know within their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► tolerances which are crazy small has a slightly thicker in a loves the bracelet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► that slide in and I gotta watch with slightly thinner diameter slot and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► just happy you know both are within range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► but because the slot a little tighter and the bracelet a little thicker it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► just makes for a tighter fit and that it's sort of inevitable at manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► things at the scale that Apple is that you know you run into something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► whereas like if you were buying $1,000 watch from Rolex you'd never run into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► this because everything is done by hand and it's they're not doing you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► and you gotta assuming it but I don't know but I would assume that over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► it'll loosen up a bit but yeah it's definitely loosened up from the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► time I took it off like and it really does and I assume some of the stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► not done by robots and whatever you see behind the scenes stuff in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► assembly places I mean that seems like everything is done by hand really almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► everything you know and then I just presume that somebody there had to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► the bracelet on the watch and could tell that it was tight but let it slide i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► mean and again it's not dysfunctional and once I didn't want it was easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► get on and off but I'm curious to see it just seems like we're seeing so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► look a little things that affect a small number of people with the watch you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► and I'm curious to see if this is one of them once the space black ships to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► people that kind of helps explain why some of the quantity issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► yeah I definitely think so I mean it's the first time they're making this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► so sure of course is gonna be and they're all different so there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► some stuff here and there for removing the links from the bracelet you know by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► the way you take the links out to resize it was easy as pie just as easy as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► was with the regular stainless steel headers are reviewed in it that was easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► it was only taking the bracelet out of the slot that's interesting that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► coating makes it have less friction as I would have to reassure yeah I'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► you what the other thing too before we move on I just say it does feel weird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► not we are in a bad way but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► I close my eyes and just run my finger over the side of the watch it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► really feel like metal to me it doesn't feel like steel but it doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► plastic or rubber it feels like I don't know why I think if I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► honestly I didn't know what it was and I was blindfolded and you said what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► substances this I'm not sure I'd be able to guess is it's a very strange feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► not in any way unpleasant it's nice it feels very nice to the touch but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► doesn't feel like steel whereas if I touch the other Apple watch the review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► and you can instantly tell this feels like steel is it that it's less porous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► or yeah it's it's a little bit it's like it feels sort of like a plastic coating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► on steel yeah but the plastic strong word though but I mean plastic only in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► that it feels smoother its feels less porous it feels like perfectly polished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► that's cause to try to have it I could have skipped that one during the trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► on session yeah I definitely recommend anybody does get some hands-on time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► don't just look at it like actually feel it what color is the accent on the Crown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► has a black belt so it is black everything is booked it is there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► sort of Darth Vader ish aesthetic to do you do you go for a different face with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► the black one then the sober one no activity with the orange secondhand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► I see it now that you know maybe wasn't or somewhere where you are trashing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► color face but actually looks great when you have a colored band I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► trash know I know actually there's something very annoying what the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► face of we have some swing here let's talk about it I I will let him know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► we'll know we're coming back to a bitch about the color face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► me take a break here and tell you about our next month another longtime friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3326">TS</a>]
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00:55:45 ◼ ► size frame you want anything from little five by five square up to a giant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► 23 by 29 inch things amazing to me it's amazing to me with you know with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► talk about megapixels in a timely manner etcetera etcetera but that you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► like photos with your iPhone and print them on like a twenty-by-twenty 9 thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► and it looks great and doesn't look pixelated at all you can totally do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► all sorts of sizes really great service and just amazing results they print this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► stuff right on the glass and it looks like it's right on the surface now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► really what they do with the printing is on the bottom so like it's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► scratch off or anything like that would what you expose like a wall the printing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► is an on top of the class it's on the bottom of the glass but because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► just this thin layer of glass the effect is is exactly like you know the effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► of the display being laminated to the glass on an iPhone it just looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► I've said this so many times but until you get a couple of these you hang them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► up on the wall and when people come into your house they say whoa what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► how did you do that how is that possible because it doesn't look like any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► picture hanging on the wall there's no bezel around the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► dead and it really it clearly does not look like a piece of paper with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► photo on it behind glass it really does look like it's right on the surface it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► father's Day is coming up it is tremendous gift idea for anybody in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► family can't can't go wrong with fractures a gift idea so where do you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► to find out more go to tractor me.com and use the code when you check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► during fireball and that will save you 15% on your show my thanks to pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► go there I know I talk about him every week but they keep sponsoring cuz you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► guys keep buying the pictures so keep I'm pictures and if you haven't done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► yet check them out youre not color photos we talk about the color color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► face looks great with the color sport ban I love it but there is no I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► watch faces different complications and because I have not owned a watch in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► long I can't tell time so I keep the digital time in one of the corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► sorry an embarrassing it is a little embarrassing gyno really know why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► know it actually is the main reason is that the watch his sleeves have not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► a problem like the watch it's pretty nicely under my shirt sleeves but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► kind of parks itself in a way that if I stretch my arm out I can't really see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► the whole watch very easily like the idea with it so the bottom right corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► I keep the digital time but there is no digital time function complication in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► so you have to use world clock so you have to keep your city and I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► don't know what the details are but when I essentially when I leave I switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► cities I have to change the time manually the city manually to have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► the current time they're just fine and no you know so I can driving all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► time but to it but now it always says NYC with the local time in the corner so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► friend of the show Dave whiskas editor show as a matter of fact came up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► clever hack on that so with the color face you can also one of the it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► only one where you can have the monogram complication is the color faced with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► monogram right I don't think so i think thats we customize nope ok yes yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► yeah so you can set a monogrammed on the phone in the Apple watcher there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► somewhere in the settings and you said a monogram you only get up to four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► characters I think you have four characters to play with and you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► put your initials in there anything up to four characters and then it puts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► like underneath the twelve you know where the logo usually goes on so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► figured out you can't cook emoji in there but there are those who know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► you call them but those unified Unicode characters that are pictures but aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► emoji cuz they're black and white and there's the one at the Apple logo and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► think you can get by typing tutor me an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► shift que ya option shift k on a Mac so there's no way to get that and I asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► if you get a ban on your Mac with options shift K [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► you can like text it to yourself and then copy it from the text and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► and then you can have a little apple logo on the color face underneath 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► o'clock which is a neat little trick but to me it renders a little too small it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► it's like the sizes and write whiskas had the idea though as I think he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► the same thing you do what he wants the digital time even with an analog face is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► you can also named custom made custom names for the time zones so like if like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► let's say you live in philadelphia if you don't want to say NYC for your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► time you can make its AP a child or whatever your hometown is in your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► zone so you could name the time zone with the Apple logo and an apple logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► and the digital time up in the corner which is pretty neat trick / you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► the digital time but don't want to have stupid NYC here you know that's after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► something like that up there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► yeah although when I so then when I was in California last week or two weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► I switched it from San Francisco to LA once I landed in LA and business kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► course now I'm in LA and my watch is telling me that maybe it's a feature not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► a bug for the USA at least again that is why they let you customize it is to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► guess I'd rather just have the timezone like Eastern Daylight Time Pacific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► Daylight Time or something like that but I get you know for like worldwide I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► don't let them know what the name of the timezone is for Paris or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► that I just want the city but I think it's pulling in the city from here world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► clock settings which i think is across iOS yes so you go to the you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► clock app and then I don't know who don't play around and around this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► some of the most fun I've had those messing around with this thing yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► told me you know people all the time are asking me should I should I get one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► I would say the entertainment values is paid at least paid for half of it so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► I've had a breakthrough I've been trying to write about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► and as we record I think this is one of the city's famous last words can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► sometimes I get backed up and I don't get stuff out the door but I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► the article I'm talking about writing will be published on during fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► before this episode of the podcast here so I'm gonna talk about it in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► tense so that's really been up to I've been trying to write about the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► it's not super long it shouldn't be a super long article but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► struggling to write about this ever since my initial Apple watcher of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► and I said how I didn't even write about the software but I'll write about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► later and I still haven't read and it's because I it's not because I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► lazy it's because I really been struggling to just get it that I've felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► like there is something to get that I'm close to getting but that I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► quite get until two days ago and even Berlin Johnson wrote a piece on medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► kind of complaining about the behavior of the digital crown but he thinks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► does too much that it should be on the iPhone hit the home button and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► matter where you are it takes you home and then like the one other thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► does is if you're like on and not first home screen and you hit it takes you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► your first home screen but no matter where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► tap that but the ones always takes you home to his idea was that he thinks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► it's like the digital crown it sounds complicated cuz if you like to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► face it takes you to your home screen where your apps are and if you're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► home screen with the apps and you press it if the clock is centered it'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► you back to your watch face and if the clock isn't senator data center on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► clock face and then you can't happen again and looked at your watch and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► you're in a nap it'll take you back to the list of apps and that he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► thats like too much and that every time you tap the dual crown just once it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► should just take you back to your watches and I totally understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► but I feel like it miss it helped me centralized my my my understanding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► the watch interaction design and I think what he's missing is that the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► difference between the watch and iOS and any other thing I've ever used is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► there's really two modes to watch there's watch face mode and Apple iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► and App Mode for lack of enemies R my terms on at mode is pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► everything else like 10 watch face mode to me is the primary motive to watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► watch face mode is it shows to watch face you slide down for notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► you slide up for glances and from a glance you can launch the corresponding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► GAAP and all that time you're just you stay in watch basement not not a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► basement so like when you're in a glances you hit that home button it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► takes about your watch fixed cuz you're still and watch basement if you pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► down notifications yet the digital crime but just takes you back to you the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► thing the digital cam button does is it lets you switch between the two moat so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► that's you know that's the two functions of the digital crown 11 is why you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► within either one of those methods it just takes you back to the default place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► for that note which for watches mode is your watch phase in which four at mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► is the list of apps and then you can then you hit it again in you toggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► between to make more sense in my article but that to me was the big break there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► and I'm very clear to me the more I think about it that this is the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► watch interaction model works in the biggest hell is that when you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► an ad like let's say you're using overcast as an appetizer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► great app it's really a great app really really is I email that the first version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4013">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► and then he re- nailed it the second version yeah I totally agree and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► and it's amazing that Apple isn't even doesn't even seem to have any podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► anything on the horizon so yeah well I don't think so if I'm in overcast and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► hit the digital crown button once to different things can happen either go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► back to the list of apps that you can pan around or I'll go back to my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► face and the difference is how do they get to overcast if you launch it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► the glantz you hit the home button to just go back to the glands right I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► know if I have the glass installed using violence is really only for the heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► rate I do you should try getting used to using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► you hit it wants to go back to the watch face to go from watch face to a glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► any glass go to the weather one could any glantz tap tap the glands to launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► the app when you tap the digital crown button you go back to the watch face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► because you haven't switched mode you're still in watch face mode and you've only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► used the plants as like a launcher if you launch the app from the list of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► when you hit the digital crown you go back to the list of apps you go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► it when you are you have to still hit the decision to switch to the other mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► and many other things that you'd never have to worry about at least in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► default configuration which I really do think is right for everybody is at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► point you can just put your risk down and stopped paying attention to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► watch and 30 seconds later you just get put back in to watch mode so that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► you look at your watch next time it's just showing watches with exceptions for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► things like the workout app or the remote app which if you're using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► stay there because they assume that you know if you're using your watch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► control your TV or if you're doing a workout you want to have it until you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► done with the whatever it is you're doing so it's almost like this two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► different hierarchies of interface yes exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► and my my guess is that the watch face trunk or whatever you would call it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► the most time yes I is certainly the quickest I guess I almost think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► idea sounds denigrating but I don't mean it that way I almost think of that mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► a sort of like a junker like the watch world is so neatly organized you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► these limited number of phases to choose from with the complications that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► play with and again i I'm with you i think it's a lot of fun to play with ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► I'm still doing any weeks later notifications from the top and glances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► from the bottom if you haven't tried you try using glances organize them in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► that seems useful I just like the icon screen so much like I almost want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4194">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► look at that more and I i i dooo he's picked the wrong app but whatever i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► gotten better and better to find like a ticking the apps up that little screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► it looks like candy in oh yeah I find that if you try to tap the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► I wonder if the the the whatever you would call the algorithm uses to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► out where you're trying to touch is different on the watch that it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► iPhone or iPad I am convinced that it is and it makes it have you ever tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► using it not on your wrist like take the YGS giving a demo to someone and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► to type in my past coated never works right it is impossible to tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► incorrectly I feel like they have corrected for the parallax of the angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► that you're at you know it's it's completely optimized for being on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► wrist at the distance where you would you know keep it from your eyes to poke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► at it with your other hand index finger yeah I'm convinced that there that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► went through and I think they even check I think they even change the parallax to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► account for left-handed and right-handed that it's not just up down parallax but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► like left right that it's you know everything has a little bit of slop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► one direction because you know if it if if the watch knows it's on your left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► wrist with the crown in the upper right it knows something about which way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► you're likely to me you know missed out with your other hand index finger follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► I just discovered something crazy alright if you if you open it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► very quickly scroll down on the digital crown it quits the up as if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► zooming out of the way you can zoom into it if you launch it and then quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4315">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► weird told us I find that a little weird I do find a little weird that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► zoom into a nap but can't amount but I guess you can fast enough I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► the zooming into a nap is seems like a gimmick well to me it only happens by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► accident right when would you ever do it by purple you know purposefully put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► I mean you have to you have to have your finger on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► not the wheel that the crown to get it centered in the first place right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► the only app I ever wanna zoom into his the watch right which you can do just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► tapping the button you don't even have to zoom in I wish that you zooming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► resented it onto the watch but maybe there will be no I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► yeah I don't know why I don't know what the alternative is though they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► going to zoom into the icon so far that blurs and they're not going to stop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► zoom at some point or they don't think so you know but my point is that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► that the watched the watch face world being the primary interface it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► have been the only interface and their don't now in that in that scenario every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► app you had would have to be a glance and you couldn't you know if you deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► the gland should be deleting the app but you could do everything that way it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► it wouldn't be a good interface for supporting more than I mean what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► what's the most number of those glasses that you could have that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► practical I would say maybe like 20 and even then it's a five or six but well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► I'm just saying the maximal yeah and so i think you know I think that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► the basic idea behind the watch is your gonna live in a wat you know most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► what you do is is the watch face and stuff you can get from there and you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► your favorite you know five or six things as glances that you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► swipe up to get to you can deal with no most notifications right there without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► switching to any kind of app and then for everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► yadda yadda yadda that's why there's the Outland and you switch to the App Mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► to do everything else instead of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► shoehorn any additional complain oh the whole thing I think there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► people complained about it being complex but I feel like separating this into two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► different modes and that people don't need to worry about you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► you know it took me eight weeks of thinking about it every day to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► this conclusion that it sort of just two base in 022 mode switch between people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► don't need to understand that to use it you just you know you just kind of have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► to just keep tapping the crown a couple of times until what you wanna see shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► up so it is it is a complex interface it is there's a lot of complexity to it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► put a lot of thought into it but I also think that you don't have one doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► need to really understand that to any degree to use it you just kind of have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► to keep stabbing at the crowd maybe twice maybe three times and then you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► do you think that the right now so many of the you know it's so early so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► the the glances and apps are effectively the same thing do you think though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► differentiate more as people start to understand what these things do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► now it's just a dumb version of the app version with them just one button that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► launches the app really because you can't have buttons and glantz even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► Apple's glances don't have buttons except for some of them now playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► game to use the most really yeah yeah i i i take a pack apple does cheat with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► their glasses by having buttons now playing is pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► third party ones just launch the app and even some apples just launch the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► like weather and stuff like that I find like any early days of using it I even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► knowing and deliberately trying not to use it as a little mini iPhone on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► wrist I found myself you know what I wanted to do something that wasn't right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► there on the watch face like I love the way that you can just type if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► the temperature show you just tap the temperature jump over to the weather app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► love that I loved having her calendar showing you can do the same thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► calendar I think that's such a great way to jump to your if you use the activity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► Apple the time just tap it right there on your watch facing you go there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► then for everything else I would go to the home screen and pan around the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► and launch an app I just I found I wasn't using plants as much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► purposely trying to use glances more I really do think they're pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► yeah alright this is like a goal now is to spend more consciously spend more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► time with glances I will do that and I will report back alright so we something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► we didn't get to talk to you at the beginning was I still have about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► addition series and I still seen I thought I saw a guy with one the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► day but it was just the stainless steel reflecting kind of a warm a warm color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► and I haven't even seen any on Instagram I mean besides the celeb you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► celebs who have their fancy special models yeah I was thinking about it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► other day and the thought occurred to me was we spent so much time over the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► months between when they announced it when it came out talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► addition stuff you know what you know speculation on the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► commentary on what does it mean for Apple as as as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► strategically you know is this shift is this something new is it is they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► a new a different company is bad for the you know the typical user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► you know that the two sides of the argument and we debated on the debt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► it does it mean that Apple is only cares about the super rich because they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► get a better device then the people who buy the $399 Sport Edition or does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► mean that it's great for the typical person because you get a device with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► exact same functionality in electronics for $399 that somebody with money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► right I gave this to a look at it but in the other day maybe they're mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► nobody's buying these things maybe the whole thing is irrelevant I get my just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► like the difference between the world with the addition line exists and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► hypothetical world where they only had the steel in sport ones there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► difference between those two worlds because nobody actually has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► additional and I wonder how many actual you know models they made i wonder to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► a truly was limited maybe there was like a hundred of each or something i dont no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► no no I don't know it just seems like there's the end it seems there's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► thing that they list and they show on the website they have them in the tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► and some of the stores the Philly store has the additional ones and that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► you know order and buy but then there's also like the edition edition ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► they've had some of these press events where there's like band options that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► aren't even available you know like Karl Lagerfeld as the the gold Milanese loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/4765">TS</a>]
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01:32:52 ◼ ► things that had to they had to do all at once I get your gonna add these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► continuity type features where the 20 asses and stuff off and and share so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5575">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► much there's no way to kind of do that halfway if kinda gotta go all-in but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► yeah I don't think I'd be ideally I'd be way more surprised if we don't CIOs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► cause I feel like they've they've had a new version of iOS every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► yeah I agree I think its interests crazy how is only a year ago that so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► these features or introduce two and they are t seem you know I just part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► part of the way of everything works I imagine since you know you could kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► see if you go back and look at last year's announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► how they've foreshadow a lot of the ways that the phone and watch talk to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► other and now that all that stuff is kind of public but I would guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► there would be some more integrations between the watch on the phone and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► Mac and all that kind of stuff yeah I definitely think so I mean I'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► to see what they do i mean probably when I don't know it's hard to say because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► the watch is such a peripheral to the phone you know that the watches are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► really like a stand-alone member of the tribe it's a good addition to the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► in particular it's interesting how in the in the Apple store they have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► watch pared to an iPad but you can't do that as a as a mortal no I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► yeah they those demo units unless they're hiding a phone inside that crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► case to those watch the live demos which are kind of in net crazy case yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► that's an iPad Mini that's in that same case I imagine that's what it's fucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► up to I had the thought today and it was reminded of it earlier in the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► tell you that the one time I unpaired the watch from my phone was to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► to the 5s to see what it was like using a 5s with the watch that the next time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► have added a new iPhone to review its gonna be weird oh yeah because I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► I'll have to pair my watch I mean unless I stopped using the watch to write but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► you know that doesn't really seem like notwithstanding whether or not I am in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► the mood to keep wearing a watch I feel like as a reviewer as part of the review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► process is how does it work without board but I'm gonna have to you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► have your watch paired with more than one from the time and you can have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► than one to watch paired with your phone at a time it's one watch her phone one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► phone per watch and that makes a review unit that I'm only really using for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► or three weeks full time sort of a pain in the ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► well will will first see how annoying it is when the iOS beta scum out in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► I guess you pry won't run that on your main device so won't affect the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► but if you wanna do something you wanna test something on the walk away I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5755">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► done the last few years is I have waited until sometime in July to update to iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► beta like I don't I don't run the built from June and I'll leave that to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► kids onto but I do I update before you know some point in July or August before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► before it actually shipped yeah yeah that'd be interesting with the watch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► I don't know do so what do you think of this to move to San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► I'm not surprised I think it'll probably look good the caveat being that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► a hack and I talked about this months ago on the show but somebody can get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► for if you download the versions of San Francisco there's two two versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► attempted to families San Francisco text and San Francisco display and Texas mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► smaller and claiming to be more or less like the display variant of any font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► usually means something that you gonna put a Display Size Me a big size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► that dares differences between some of the character sheets subtle differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► in the character shapes in the spacing based on the presumption of how big it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► going to be somebody made a hack any published on github so that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► use San Francisco as the font in Yosemite West End ten-point 10 2010 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► I installed that and then I felt like I was going back to my early you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► younger days when I would install all sorts of crazy interface maximize system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► because I was so curious about it and I felt like it looked ok but it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► look great but my guess is that they're just means that they need to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► more tweaks to the fun to make it look right at the optical sizes that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► compared to the watch like I feel like the version that they shipped already is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► truly optimized even on the watch display text is still tiny cuz it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► tiny little watch it on the Mac it's a much more reasonable size so I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► it you know I think I look good and i think i OS two yeah I couldn't used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5874">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► help on the map but you know I'm not glued to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► yeah I'm sure your company this weather details like Apple it they'll make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► that it looks good at all those system sizes and it you know it's always been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► little weird to me I've always thought the iOS or not and I'm just gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► Helvetica and not mention that separate fun but let's say Helvetica I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► thought it was a curious choice for a system fund and you know it's been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► system fun on iOS all the way from the original I thought and I love it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► iPhone 5 you know it's not some people think as I often say good things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► her that it's like my favorite fun and it's not even close but I do like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► appreciate it for what it is and I think it's such a humble choice on Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► part back in 2007 because it's you know how medicare medicaid's the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► it's the only part that there's been a movie made about its the default font [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► and text documents you know in TextEdit it's also not owned by Apple so any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► other anybody else can make a phone in an eight cc's done at other companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► dunno where they license Helvetica they can use Helvetica on their phones to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► whereas if you own your own fun like they do in San Francisco Apple has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► font that you know can be part of their unique identity and nobody else can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► it's the new Chicago right did they own Chicago yeah definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► ugly fire well but it was perfect for it was a perfect bitmap like 64 at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► something I wanted to have a conference going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► alongside the BBC this year the layers conference it's a design conference take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► two blocks away from us going on Tuesday and Wednesday of WBC week susan care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► chicago is like the headline keynote speaker and then I'm doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► wrong and interviews and care on stage thing I would love I can't wait to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► to her about Chicago in particular because to me chicago is a is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► weirdest find I've ever seen i've lie loved it I love but only loved it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► exactly 12 pixels it was yet but like it's such a weird fun like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► other fun that it doesn't look like anything else it doesn't look like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► like Helvetica it certainly you know it is a sign serif so it doesn't look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► any serif font there ever was But it's just weird it's in a way it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► like bridge the gap between the pre- GUI world and the GUI world where it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► of had some of the characteristics of like the fonts from the era before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► had proper typographic funds you know funds that were really meant to fit on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► pixel grid not any kind of high-resolution grid when I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► laughin 2007 I was monkeying around with different logos and fonts for the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► and I was going to try to use Chicago but it was just so impractical at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► know any any web resolution let alone retina resolution it just right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► couldn't work every time and then so I feel like Apple was in a quandary when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► TrueType came out and system seven and they couldn't get rid of Chicago and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► fact it was still the system 5127 shipped they didn't switch system until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► you know the redesign of the GUI with Mac OS a but it needed to be true type I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► give you know all the system under to type of some of them are true type out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► to be true type so they made a TrueType version of Chicago and then once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► did that people started using it in the real world and every time I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► in my life like used a sign or something right it's always like wow you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► however chose that punch should have their license to choose fun to it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► received the welcome to Macintosh podcast a young mark brown hell I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► I've seen that exists but I haven't checked it out so he uses it properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► you can good you can go there I'm a collage macintosh Data FM it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► really smart young man named Mark Brown hell but he's he's got his logo set and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► Chicago but of course it's the bitmap version of Chicago not the true type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► version I love it because Mark market I've met him he was actually at the when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► I was in New York and did the book thing when I interviewed the authors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► becoming Steve Jobs couple weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► oh yeah he happened to be passing through New York he lives like somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► down in the southwest and he was passing through New York with his dad and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► think is a twenty years old nineteen years old so he's way younger than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► bitmap mcintosh but this is like the identities chosen first podcast which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► like they have no it's totally retro you did such a hilariously Gruber ash non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► promotion of that event I totally would've gone I didn't even know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► happening you know if so i didnt and that that really wasn't though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► wasn't true purpose it came across that way in other words I didn't link to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► Public Enemy tweet that I was doing it they told me not to ok just so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► wouldn't need fifty security guards and well in my dad that's the thing is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► bothered me because there were a few empty seats and i know if i had tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► it there wouldn't have been a hate to see empty seat and there were so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► people who said that afterwards said the same thing like just friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► personal friend of mine who live in New York and that's why didn't you tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► you know two minutes but the publishers of the book crown publishing and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► did they like I think it was like 90% full so they did Phil ninety percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► the seat and it will and therefore because their promotions filled ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► percent of the seats if I had tweeted it I guarantee it would have been overflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► there would have been people turned away so what would have been better having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► couple of empty seats or having you know dozens and dozens of people turned away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► that story that the theater at that store in Soho is really pretty small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► small yeah I wanted to go to it real by the way real-time follow-up as they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► I did not start split up in 2007 it was 2011 just realized that I was messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► those two years up the years that I switched jobs and Iran yes and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► an event in 2007 with I wanna stay Jason Schwartzman or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► know well yeah cuz he was in the short it was something with Wes Anderson maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► it isn't everything with ya who knows what I think it was Wes Anderson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► speaking at the Apple Store something like that and that was they had a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► around the block or something like that so I couldn't get into that now is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► kind of disappointing so you don't want that to happen either know so I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► trying to be coy and I wasn't trying to be secretive but it wasn't like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► banned me they were just I don't worry about you know have to link it will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► care of whatever you say so and i dont have done anybody who is upset that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► didn't hear about it under incredible I was you know those are doing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► suggested anyway I think San Francisco should turn out great I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► like I said I think installing the versions that the ship right now as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► is not going to give you the look that thereafter but I am with you i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► there's no way that Apple's can ship it looks now I think it's it's going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► there and they're kind of setting the ground long-term also for you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyWozBY/6346">TS</a>]
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