The Talk Show

00:00:00 ◼   ► so this is the show you know alright David's parts was is this your first [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► time on the talk show I know it's kind of exciting it's very exciting that this [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► is the thing is the problem I want to have you on for a long time and the [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► reason I've put it off as I feel like it's going to take the entire episode [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► just to tell people everything you too busy guy John what you are prolific it's [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► you and Rene Ritchie and Jason Snell make me sick I feel like if I i feel [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► like i get to a Friday and I feel like you know a record a podcast I was pretty [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► good episode and I had one good article on during fire by my bed and then I look [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► at like would like some of you guys do anything else on like seventeen podcasts [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► he produces like sixteen of them you put out a book and the screencast and do a [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► podcast and keep it and Renee of course writes about seven or eight thousand [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► words week that they think it was the longest monk at one point who said it's [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► not the notes you play it's the notes you don't play right now so so you're [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► like me you know if the guy anyway the piks you are referring to his longtime [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► show Mac power users which you cause I believe from the outset with the [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► wonderful Katie for it yet and that is just moved as a tennis motivated me [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► because I you know somebody moves to show that god damn feed redirection it [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► never works right it's it's terrifying it is terrifying it's terrifying movie [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► show because your your listeners are subscribed to your feed best thing in [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► the world is when someone subscribe to podcast because there may be a little [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► bit of a commitment and then when you do your next episode that you're getting [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► pushed to them when they open their podcast app of choice or maybe their [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► podcast app pulls it down automatically be there it is and that's great and yeah [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► I know there's people who don't listen who don't subscribe to just wait and see [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► if it sounds like a good episode and then they just hit play and that's great [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► too love listeners but subscribers are the best because subscribers give you [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► consistency from week to week [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► and then when you move networks or you just even if you don't move networks if [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► you just do something behind seed change from you know WordPress to Squarespace [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► or you know something like that you have to change the feed something always goes [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► wrong and so yeah it was always my want to help people when they do stuff like [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► that get people to you know a double check if you are subscribed to Mac power [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► users go to the new site now the new site is there on the relay yeah we were [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► actually shutting down we we've had mac paris's dot com beginning which is kind [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► of funny thats back in like 2008 2009 we're starting the show we we're trying [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► to pick name of the show and you just search websites are used as available [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► that's a good name so we're shooting down the dot-com were gonna forward it [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► over to everything and related got a nice system over there so we can be [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► great where you want to go and listen to the show we will talk about it a bit [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► more too but it's real a dot FM / and P or time at Perry's rooftop Comedy so [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► really it's the first good yeah but I think I don't know how these guys got by [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► without me quite frankly I don't understand either I think it given by [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► the British accent thing my hand now it makes it sound you know he's not really [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► British you know he was born in New Jersey that's what I heard too and he [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► just like he likes to pronounce page funny you know and and people like that [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► so there in yeah and you know his name is spelled with a lie he made that up to [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► its also some kind of big iPhone cult and restrain their realize did you when [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► did he say to you in Katy started my power users 2009 so that's interesting [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► that's interesting in 2009 you still chose a name that starts with Mac yeah [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► well that was kind of the idea we it's kind of a cares about the stuff but like [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► every I like to tell us we are thinking about doing a podcast together and and [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► everybody we r macworld him you know everything that can be said about a [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► podcast has been said [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► and they're kind of right you know the great quickly does the news and such as [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► such and unlike you know I don't want to do something everybody else does so we [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► decided let's just not do it and we talked for like 45 months about what we [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► do and ultimately I said I want to make a show that talks about one thing the [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► show doesn't have anything to do with news just talked about how to get better [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► at email how to get better this or that and in cases like it's a great idea it's [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► good for like 10 shows it will be done I said well then we'll make ten really [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► good shows his 2009 so it's worked out and you guys have just hit at least and [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► and for your audience and probably my audience to its it it counts as a round [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► number you just finished episode 255 [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► so now you're just about to enter your your second bite into Dubai teenagers [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► now I mean we're not messing around and you know what they're splitting if we [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► cut stuff backed up we have so much we'll talk about it and I love it was [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► getting ready for this cause you know I'm also a lawyer which is kinda nuts [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► and like the whole morning doing lawyer stuff and just getting ready for this [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► call in like shutting down Microsoft Word and all the other stuff that it on [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► that part of my life I'm at felt great I love the word power user ID I think that [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► it like went full circle where in the early years of the PC revolution when [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► PCs were just grow and grow and grow and I mean let's just say he's a beast [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► through the mid to late nineties power user was used with no reservation in in [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► a Mac user PC world you know any of those magazines would talk about you [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► know tips for power users and yeah I think everybody hits nebulous lead to [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► find because it has to be there is no technical definition between you know as [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► somewhat informed user and a power user but I think everybody it fits a general [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► loose description of somebody who's who's truly an enthusiast really does [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► want to dig into some of the details but probably falls short of being like a [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► developer or someone who can write their own Co [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► code or or at least at you know if they do write code it's more like Automator [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► and Apple script and stuff like that it's it's absolutely aspirational for [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► our show and you know that you know the ideal nerd in my head is John Siracusa [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► and and the show's not for John Siracusa [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► we're not going to talk about program program talk and a lot of our listeners [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► it's kind of weird because our show has a big audience but it's not the usual [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► geeks listening to podcasts doctors business people you know single moms [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► people who just want to get better at this stuff so it's an interesting place [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► we occupy like somebody was telling me I forget who had a dentist dentist some of [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► my friends has a dentist but he's not from Max and so he's always kept his [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► practices you know he does all the idea staffers practice and has a couple you [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► know it's always been a Mac guy you know writes his own FileMaker stuff you know [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► to keep the practice and stuff like that but he's a dentist that's a full time [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► thing you know but he has made you know this little little system of stuff that [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► works exactly the way he needed for his practice that's a power user there's a [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► good chance he listened to our show we have a lot of dentists that thing we [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► knew we had its fine we have all walks of life but it's fun and with the Mac [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► there's so much you can do i mean what little automation tools you don't need [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► to learn to program if you get good at hazel or no keyboard maestro or even [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► just text expander you can like make so much magic happens we talk about that [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► stuff all the time it's fun I do think and I do think though and this is one of [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► the things i wanna talk about the same name the show Mac power users and I do [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► think I think that even though the naming Apple related websites Mac [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► whatever is probably be always was a bad idea in hindsight because something new [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► is going to come back it would have it would have worked out poorly two decades [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► ago if the Newton and really caught on but you know you harder to get [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► legal permission to use Apple the Mac even though Apple often neglected to Mac [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► whatever names for some years and in a kind of backed off that by with with the [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► target audience of your in Katy show I feel like it really does work as I think [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► it's harder to be the nature of Iowa and the restrictions of iOS make it harder [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► to be a power user on iOS and that's not that doesn't mean to say that you can't [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► be a mean there is text expander for iOS and then you can know about you know AB [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► psych Launch Center pro and more clothes yet workflow is another good example [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► drafts is probably like the power user text note type perhaps but to me it's [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► different I don't know why I do find it interesting because I certainly consider [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► myself to be a Mac power user right and you know BBEdit to me as I the canonical [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► Mac power user group as at their entire lineup is everything about their apps is [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► geared towards power users in my i mean not that you can I get a casual user [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► can't just start using some of their website you can just open on a liner and [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► just command and if you have any idea from fifth grade what an outline as [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► you'll be right at home but the whole reason that they're so successful they [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► can charge you know serious money for the app is that it's it's got so many [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► you know power user enters you can tweak it to make it like it only apps like [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► getting in on the up and just using in a box that like really digging in its [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► kinda like getting a Lamborghini and just driving and parking lots yes [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► there's just so much more thing yeah but your show doesn't the way we've dealt [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► with that is and I'd almost argue that you can get more automation stuff going [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► these days on iOS but you know it's it's still a journey but the way we've dealt [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► with on the shows we deal we still do shows entire shows on iPhone and iPad [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► and iOS related topics and we just kind of ignore a problem with the name and I [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► don't listen to him and we've got some other URLs and we've talked about it but [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► it's like you can I got a brand now and yeah I would love it [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► I would I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about it I think people understand and I [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► think I think the thing that makes it work is that the type of iOS users who [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► are gonna be listening are gonna be there there there PCs Mac to their not [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► windows people you know yeah that's the assumptions yeah I find it interesting [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► personally though because I still definitely consider myself a Mac power [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► user have a lot of custom modifications in a live paraphrase I'm told that that [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► power mile workflow for almost everything I do from email to especially [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► posting stuff today on fireball custom bookmarklets custom Automator services [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► that I've written flooding in a lot of the stuff I waited around the way I i do [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► mark down two points on that [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► to point out that there are one or more that you post when I used to I used to [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► post that stuff all the time and somehow gotten away from it and I realize I've [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► got like this backlog of what I think are some pretty cool shit and the second [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► thing is I will give you the microphone for as long as you want on my car uses [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► one day to come and just talk about the stuff we don't have to talk about any [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► news just tell us how you might be a good venue but I don't really use and [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► only do any of that type of stuff on iOS on iOS and I use my phone a lot and I've [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► been noticing it with the watch and we can get to that later in the show but I [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► have dan I have been running my phone down into the red a lot lately a lot [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► more than I was even just like six months ago but I don't really do [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► anything power usery on it I don't use any of those out and I don't use text [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► expander I don't use drafts I don't news I don't use long Center pro I don't use [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► workflow [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► loaded all of them and I've looked at them and I've appreciated them and I can [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► see why every single one of those apps has become ahead and has like a serious [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► enthusiasts following but they the way I use my iPhone it just none of that [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► really resonates some of the most productive stuff I've done on iOS is [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► just sitting down opening my word [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► has got a great iCloud sync and I'll just dictate text into it and no [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► formatting you know no scripts nothing just i just want to get texts somewhere [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► and like on the phone you can do that you know and and i'm i'm indie guy now [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► so I'm out my own dogs and some of you know me I'll be sitting at Disneyland [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► and I'll sit down for 30 minutes and just get a bunch of texts into the thing [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► and the iPhone iPad are great for that and that that's a useful activities if [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► it doesn't have to be all you know I don't have to post from their daughter [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► format and doing things only get texts somewhere that gives me a starting point [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► yeah I think and you know that I helped design and make this work is definitely [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► not a power user no tap it is very very straightforward and obvious and there's [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► there's no secret stuff for you know doesn't have any marked down support [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► that said the most surprising things to so many people that doesn't do anything [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► related to market but then I say to them all I said I remarked on it all the time [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► to put asterisks around words I want to get braces or URLs as I so you know it [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► doesn't do anything with it but it's like that's the whole my whole thinking [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► around the creation of markdown lo these many years ago what the hell happened at [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► eleven years or something like that it's crazy was that you could just entered [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► you know an asterisk tax get out it's now it's it's I mean I don't know you [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► have done so much good for the internet with markdown I know it's a totally just [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► made yourself but you know putting it out there I'm really appreciative of it [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► and I bookmarked I know but it's just you know it's just so useful I mean I do [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► everything in it and I don't know what when are you gonna get your app on the [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► Mac has I cannot way I need I need it it's a long story [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► I needed to I can she and I've been cheating cuz I have a Vesper for iPad [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► running iOS Simulator 2004 7 which i think is he right isn't great you know [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► it's like we're so weird if you've ever do you ever have anything running in [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► like I was simulator yeah I've fiddled with it but I understand my complaining [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► because it's time to use apps like this lady paste text in the way you do it [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► you're in a cab you selected text copy you go over to the iOS Simulator you [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► paste but then you have to tap in the text field and hit the paste like [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► pasting just paste it into the iOS Simulator Mac App then in Iowa simulator [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► you have to tap the insertion point where you want to text to go and then [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► tap the paste button on the little pop-up menu to get it to paste into iOS [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► space twice in the same thing for copying out if they could make me crazy [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► yeah it's well that's probably why i drink I don't know now it's a long long [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► story that we cannot get into where we're best performances but we we are [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► keenly aware that everybody wanted I could not place right here [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► me take a break and do our first sponsor and it is a brand new sponsor I'm very [TS]

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00:17:53 ◼   ► it's like one of these deal a day type things right but it's just for wine well [TS]

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00:19:01 ◼   ► you love that there's non tech companies now sponsoring tech podcast all I think [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► I've been saying to people I think that that's not that I mind any of the tech [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► companies that do sponsored I mean that's obvious why they do but I think [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► that the non tech products it's Brian and I think they're all of our shows all [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► the shows that you think of the people who listen to strike back power users [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► are the talk show or ATP any other shows on relay FM it's really not about tech I [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► mean there are other podcast another podcast networks though that may be a [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► more purely technical and sorta like the old divide between Mac publications and [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► PC publications you know and and like the type of things where they where they [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► talk about you know their first emphasis is on specs or something like that [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► that's a different type of world you know this shows that about that you're [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► sure about that our show attracts our shows attract people who are picky and [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► care about ship that's it right and tacked it happens to be one of them and [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► so if your product whether it's you know mattresses or wine or pillows are all [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► this crazy shit which I never would have thought that I'd be some sponsorship [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► support I think it makes total sense that they have great success with our [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► shows because you know some chunk of our audience of the audience to listen to [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► this show that cares about the Mac and iOS and really wants to hear talk about [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► the Apple watch also really cares about wine and really want to be able to buy [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► land in a cool way and get a great price so I think makes all the sense in the [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► world [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► yeah I agree sort of in a way that like political magazine no one would ever [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► think that [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► in like a magazine that focuses on like national affairs that all the ads would [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► be for politics what the hell are you even advertise with politics I think the [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► thing with tack that might be might and I i myself felt you know felt felt it is [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► told you like years ago I wouldn't have expected these these type of sponsors [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► but like a national affairs magazine what are they felt their cars watches [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► and you know just all sorts of general purpose products it also indicates that [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► the but the platform for podcasting is getting more legitimate than me when we [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► first started doing ads about people really had trouble understanding you [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► know they don't even understand the metrics is everything is different from [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► traditional advertising fact I talked to some traditional advertising guys that [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► just pooh-pooh the whole thing you know but you know they don't understand [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► that's where people are going to get content now [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► yea well in 2007 when the show started its first run with me and me and AM [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► Benjamin the very first round it you could see those episodes it the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► talk-show dotnet so we wanted to punters and I was something I was already think [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► I want full-time and tank fire bomb 2006 so I was all end and partially based on [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► user dunno direct support from readers from memberships and t shirts and stuff [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► like that but did memberships and t-shirts thing really was just the way [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► that I launched going full time the only way that I got to be in the black like [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► month to month which i think was like April 2006 when I announced its gone for [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► time and sold bunch t-shirts and had like twenty thousand dollars or [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► something like that that we cruising through the summer and just kind of [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► started mowing through and got like by August it was like we had like nothing [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► but partnerships are starting to pick up a little bit I remember by late October [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► or November we're like the little Excel spreadsheet where we were keeping track [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► of it where it was the first month where was I hate this we actually made a [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► little more than we spend on all their expenses [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► you know by 2007 when we started the talk show I was definitely something [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► enough sponsorships for Dan fireball that made it a legitimate job we [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► couldn't find anybody who sponsored by guest I mean like nobody we could even [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► some spots for like 250 bucks yeah I had never heard the daring purple origin [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► story before interesting too long story takes a pair of though you know they [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► like give up a job and well you've sort of done that I was I don't talk about me [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► let's talk about you so you have already said you are an attorney now you add [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► another reason I put off putting on a show now you live and summer in Southern [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► California Orange County right so that's why I have been waiting to have you on [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► the show right now today here in philadelphia is seventy degrees and [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► sunny it was 70 degrees and sunny yesterday and I believe the forecast [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► tomorrow is around seventy degrees and sunny so a few I don't even have the [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► weather widget on my Apple ID cuz I live in Southern California what you need [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► that for somebody said that me where I forget a friend Adam Lee cigar the other [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► week before he was on my show and we were preparing and he's so so so so [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► excited about that a polite and he was like me see he goes quick without [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► changing show me your watch face I sent a screenshot of my watch face [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► utility utility it is utilities utilities with known to know our numbers [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► with the date at 3 o'clock with fitness top right now whether top left and right [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► now I have my calendar at the bottom but I i I did it around with that sometimes [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► turned out just turn it often nothing rather than have that god damn no more [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► events in all caps by health cover the kinks are really mad about that no more [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► events thing it doesn't bother me it really bothers me because it bothers me [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► because if it was a real watch it was a mechanical way of doing it it was just [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► blank out like [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► so the equipment and again this isn't secure morphic it's not they're not [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► making it look like it flips around in that it's a little cut out panel that [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► shows this right I think they've designed to perfectly but it is sort of [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► mimicking the way that might like the way that the the little hour of the day [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► of the month thing at three o'clock it it's a little panel just like on a [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► mechanical watch on automatically so if you think about like a train station and [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► there's the board that shows all of the upcoming trends when there's like room [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► to show 12 but they there's only seven trains coming in the next to no [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► reasonable amount of time the bottom five rows don't say no more trains it's [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► just they just leave it blank like if there's nothing left the natural state [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► of a of an information panel is to just show [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► yeah it's actually takes effort to have it display no more events I mean there's [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► a code that does that say about that code could display blank just as easily [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► the explanation I've heard the best thing I've heard for why they show that [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► is that if you are the sort of person I think that the dividing line of whether [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► you are bothered by the Senate is whether you have a lot of events [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► calendar or not do you live the sort of life for you have a lot of meetings and [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► stuff like that and that you seldom see no more events and when that's me and [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► when you do see it it's like a relief it's it's like an inbox zero type of [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► euphoria that you get right it's like my day is done no more events it actually [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► pleases you to see it because you started your day with a whole bunch of [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► stuff that that that was going to cycle through whereas with me more often than [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► not you know I've got nothing on it on a regular day or the only thing I have I [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► do have like a calendar subscription to the Yankees schedule and so the only [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► thing on my watch is just tell me the Yankees played seven but I knew that [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► already [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► you know I don't need that on the calendar thanks [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► I also me like you're living right i think is bent on mine so I think I think [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► that no more events thing I think it hopefully it'll change I I could say I [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► really you know again I desire constant refrain of the last decade is I know [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► like some point around a decade ago we collectively realize that adding [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► preferences every time there's any kind of dispute over something is not the way [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► to build sustainable software for years to come because eventually you end up [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► with you know at any given one feature it's not a bad idea but as a general [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► principle if you keep doing that you end up with these crazy you know there's way [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► too many preferences here and you're lost trying to find anything but I do [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► think that maybe this one should be a setting and that the reason why I feel [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► like some people want to see that some people are just annoyed by that I don't [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► know that anybody you know I guess on my side of the fence would really care if [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► it never said no more events again I'd be fined for his blanket the end of the [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► day she said the people on the side of saying get rid of it are much more [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► passionate about that people would want to keep it I wouldn't mind too if there [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► was some way that it would show some people say that if showed nothing it [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► would create in this idea because it would make them feel like the calendar [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► wasn't syncing anymore you know that that it had lost the connection and [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► enter watchers no land that they do have an event upcoming but that the watch [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► isn't reading it you know that somehow I don't know why I can't really buy that I [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► it's it's interesting because I used a pebble for a long time i right up until [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► the time Apple watcher at least and I was always the pedal was always losing [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► connection with the phone and you know whether it was a calendar entry or the [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► weather or whatever it just you know it it was clearly bad and or old data and [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► ever since the Apple watch arrived I mean I just not even an issue for me I [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► always know that if I look at the weather is going to be the actual [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► current weather actually we're located or the calendar date is gonna be [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► accurate [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► there's been no failure I mean I have complete faith in it at this point and I [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► guess that's probably unfair to people because they're not Apple they don't [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► have the same access to the operating system [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► guys had but just worried that that's the weird thing about the watches you [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► don't fiddle with that much in my case I mean what I figured it out I just [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► started wearing it and it was my water and that was what your watch face [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► utility color black utility that the watch itself is the look of what your [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► what your highlight color for you to orange yeah yeah yeah me too high school [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► was black and orange and I always thought that those were it not just out [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► of sheer loyalty to whatever shitty color's your high school I always [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► thought it was it was a good luck and a rare one that there's not many teams in [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► sports with black and aren't we get the Tigers we were the the Mountaineers [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► Tigers in a drive-by [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► Tigers is usually like the NFL Bengals you know it's a natural orange and black [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► mamba high schools black and white shoes for a minute there I thought we may seem [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► school when that happened funny but yeah so I've got and I got the call it the [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► the budget Darth Vader watch you know the black aluminum with a rubber band [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► the black rubber and launch it looks really nice together I did the same [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► thing when I use the modular face I have them all damn I like the orange my son [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► has it as as red which I seen a lot of people with screenshot you know for [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► modular he's he's a digital guy get his watch a last time I heard you talking to [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► hear ya he got it he had of schedule so everything everything we've ordered for [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► the house has shown up except for my black steel links watch which seemingly [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► nobody has gotten it might miles tires freshman in college she got one and she [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► got a feeling she she sent me a diagram on it and I call cool she sent him a [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► message she wrote poop [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► that's a good care so you put my watch he said yeah I know I tried to drop I'll [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► prove the one time I that's not good enough that I I can try anything on this [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► thing just it's terrible here I don't know if that's really gonna be a thing [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► the heart beating with my wife that's cool [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► the taps we can kind of develop a language with the taps but the drawing [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► the picture thing I'm not sure where that's going yeah i dont no other thing [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► that I don't know about is the interface for you tap the side button to bring up [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► the little 12 o'clock you know the 12 spot dial for picking a contact and now [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► that so many people I know have an apple watch TV on 12 know it's definitely and [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► so what do you say I had to start I've already had to cut people and in addis [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► doesn't even mention the people who I might want to have a quick contact list [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► who don't have a watch but I want them there so that I could quick send them a [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► text message from my rest right I don't even a way to send a tap or picture to [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► someone who's not on that list of 12 I don't think there is no no no but you [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► can still initiate a phone call or a text to get away to tell you can [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► actually tell whether somebody has an apple watch registered to their Apple [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► ideas you put them in your your friends list that spot friends list and if they [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► have an apple watch they have three options [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► the center but center but yes and if not they don't and so I think I mentioned it [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► a few weeks ago and anticipation I figured I didn't know but I figured that [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► Jim Dalrymple would be getting would be getting a watch before April 24th so [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► every day I was checking to see if he'd gotten one yet [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► and then I got the 2013 she should have but the thing and I like quicksand [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► picture of [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► they want to be the first person to do it but it is an issue because this was [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► gonna be popular and like if you want it is so if you want to be able to do that [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► with a friend they have to get on your list of 12 [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► even though you may well somebody else that doesn't have to watch on that list [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► of 12 or maybe you have more than twelve people that watches and just seems like [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► a very limiting interface for something that they clearly intend to be a [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► massively important part of the watch given that it's the one and only feature [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► that that is that you can do with only two buttons on the thing hardware [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► buttons and 1 a.m. when you single press it it's all get there is no [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► configuration all it does is bring this side menu up her friends list from the [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► side and did too limited to 12 like that really feels really limited it's really [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► weird and now that I'm filled up with 12 somebody who forget to let somebody sent [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► me doodle the other day and I wanted to add them to my list but I already had 12 [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► and in that point what you have to do is you have to go to the phone and delete [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► somebody and add that person manually like there's no way to do it right there [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► on the fly as you as you get it [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► yeah it's about that evolves I think it has to I think it's it way too I mean I [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► you know it it would be easy to change I don't think anybody's gonna become [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► addicted to this twelve people in a circle thing so I think it'd be easy to [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► break that in the future and do something new and quite frankly it's [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► already change because it's a very different interface from what they [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► showed in September yeah I forgot was it a great thinker when they actually [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► forget but I know it wasn't a circle I totally forgot what it was in September [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► but I know as a circle [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► it's hard to look out on that because Apple sort of thrown September thing [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► down the memory hole it's fun though that's what happened this watch on and [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► you know getting notifications on their wrists and just the basic stuff but it's [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► also just fine like singing taps to people and I don't know why I think [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► they've done a good job with it yeah I do so you living in Orange County I saw [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► that when you first got it he wrote up your experiences with the right way [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► you'd gone to Disneyland and it looked like typical Orange County whether it [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► was funny that to me is as it gets nicer and nicer here [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► philadelphia's as we go into May from April and it's a lot fewer overcast days [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► and a lot of more days like today where it's just absolutely positively perfect [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► I find it hard to read the watch in some indirect sunlight it is harder to read [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► although I think that's one maybe the reason I like utility face it's very [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► easy to to see the hands are big enough that you're just fine [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► like the chronograph I don't know I don't think I could read that even if I [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► think that's very difficult to read because they handle hollow they're not [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► they're not and the extra superfluous stuff is just no way I could rebut 47 [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► they just it's not even possible I don't even know what those what they're doing [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► in their area magnifying glass or something but it's it's great I haven't [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► had a whole lot of trouble I can affect taken direct sunlight I can see how the [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► the panel's not attach the glass like I've kind of got used to the iPhone and [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► the iPad but you know its generation one I don't know about that I remember ATP [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► episode a couple of weeks ago when they were talking about how whether the [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► panels attached to the glass or not and I think and and I might get this detail [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► wrong but I think and then in the next episode in their follow-up there was one [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► of the johnnie I videos where they said on [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► Jony ive said on some of the some of the watches [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► display is fused to the sapphire crystal and that's all he said so I think it is [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► i think it is fused to the surface I think it looks pretty close and I think [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► that in certain lighting you can definitely see the display through the [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► Sapphire but it's it's rare for me even in some light it's rare for me I wonder [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► if she minds aluminum and so have the sapphire crystal wonder if an ATB guys [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► brought it up with what johnnie I've said and it's just as recording it [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► ambiguous what that means for the sport models because does he mean all of them [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► refused and on but some only some of them have sapphire or does he mean only [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► the 12 safire refused I don't know it I looked at my son's sport watch and it [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► didn't look to me like it was any different but I also have to admit that [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► it at age 42 and with the trouble with my lifetime I I can really see the [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► difference like this is the first time ever that I've had seen an Apple product [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► where I i really couldn't I think the 38 actually looks good on my wrist I think [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► I could totally get by with it in terms of the size but I actually do struggle [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► to read it in a way that I don't struggle to read the 42 [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► my wife's cause I had the black one [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► those were constrained so my wife's blue phone I'm sorry blue watch with silver [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► aluminum showed up on day one and she let me wear it for a few days because I [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► wanted to fiddle with it more than she did and it was 38 and it was fine and [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► look good on me but that I agree what's the bigger one showed up I knew exactly [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► that was as for me I think Adam have the same thing to do this so I for example [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► on the chronograph is a perfect not only really use the chronograph them although [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► I do sometimes the reason I like it is that you can just switch to chronograph [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► so I have chronograph to to watch faces over and then you're one tap away from [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► starting a timer [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► stopwatch if you wanted you you know you know I do I put charcoal in the ground [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► and then just boom started stopwatch and then I know you know once he gets a 25 [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► minute start checking in to see the training series timer awesome yeah just [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► told but I with the thirty eight millimeter with my son's thirteen [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► millimeter I can't read the subtitles on the chronograph action makes me feel [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► incredibly old like the little there's a there's a stop by our second hand [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► underneath and that depends I have it configured but there's two sub-dials [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► that it does little some circles are I can read the numbers on them on his and [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► I can read my mind was about your age I am I noticed I was holding books out [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► further and further from me as I read them and someone said you know you you [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► may have you know you may have a problem there we were at Costco I'll never [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► forget and they had you know this sample reading glasses and i put a pair on and [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► look at some words like god damn I'm getting old and i'm looking iFixit [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► teardown of an aluminum one and it's not clear but it looks like it may be [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► attention it's pretty close to the surface and I i think that the affect [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► the overall effect of the entire black surface [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► whichever model you have looks like it's the display and the actual display just [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► takes up you know some portion within it with these generous what seems to be [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► generous margins around it in fact they like those when you have stuff out to [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► the corner there really writing it right out to the corner of the display and I [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► asked rated screenshot and you seem like wow that doesn't look right right yeah [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► and you know and that it was definitely true with some of the initial apps that [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► came out in April that they had way to the margin you know they had like even [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► just two or three pixels margin it it really made their their stuff like [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► cramped have you done the fitness stuff much of you played with them a little [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► bit [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► I you know I'm getting back into running now that clear into it with my stuff so [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► I'm you know I'm using it to run a couple times a week and I track you know [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► sometimes I do it I don't know that I go out why live in the city and so I walk [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► everywhere and to me going on a walk like walking somewhere like if I walk to [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► pick up my son from school it's like one and a half miles away so it's a three [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► mile walk round trip that doesn't feel like exercise to me like walking i mean [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► it's cutting its good for you and I think it's one of the nice part of the [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► city but to me it doesn't feel silly to me to start the workout out and say I'm [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► going on a walk and I'm just walking but I do it just to have it to play with the [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► thing I realizes it cuz I never really thought about heart rate much as I [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► walked a lot too and I think I'm doing great with exercise I'm walking all over [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► the place but we're in the watch for the first week of release you know I didn't [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► do anything to raise my heart rate the whole weeks and now to watch actually is [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► change my behavior so now I'm like looking for hills to climb or spend a [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► little time everyday kinda get my heart rate up and and I'm not sure if it's [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► just the newness of the watch if this will stick or not but it bothers me now [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► when I get him down and get my thirty minutes of elevated heart rate yeah and [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► I do think too that the fitness stuff even though I'm not a super big fitness [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► enthusiasts but I'm learning every day and so now I've got like six weeks out [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► of you know daily stuff it is keeping me from wearing my old watch it one of the [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► main it probably the main thing that's keeping me from just wearing my old [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► watch you know just for kicks which is something I you know you switch between [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► two watches and [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► I anticipated that I wouldn't want to wear my Apple watch every single day [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► maybe even not most days but the fitness stuff kind of motivates me too and I've [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► heard other people say the same thing because you don't want to have to lose a [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► day and have a day where you know makes it look like a bed or even like when you [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► get out of bed in the morning and say I'm gonna be working in pyjamas for two [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► hours I'll still put the watch on cuz I know I'm going to be going up and down [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► the steps and doing so i dont wanna lose that credit so it's funny I'm very [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► motivated to get this watch honest and say wake up in the morning I do find now [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► I still find like before we move on from white stuff but I do find I'm still [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► right from my first review one week after wearing it I still annoyed when I [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► look at it and the display doesn't turn on for whatever reason and it just [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► happened to me while I was coming up the stairs my office here at the house as [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► you know second floor and I was coming up here to do the podcast and my arms [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► were full at a coffee mug in one hand and I had my thermos filled with the [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► coffee and the other and so I couldn't control my rest ma'am but I got got the [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► tap that I hadn't had an alert and I look at my wrists to see what it was and [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► it's black and i was just so annoyed even know I was only 10 seconds away [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► from being able to set it down into it was but it's like if you're giving me [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► the tap I wanna see the god damn thing you might take on that is that they at [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► some point they said no one story we never want written about the Apple watch [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► is that the battery dies at 5 p.m. yep I think more than anything like it also [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► bothers me that that it turns off tonight was at six seconds because [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► sometimes I actually need more than six sections six seconds to process what's [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► on the screen and I just feel like somewhere they said you know we're gonna [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► make it extra sensitive or not gonna make it turned on just anytime you flick [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► arrest were not going to leave it online and we're never gonna have a story [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► written that says turn that the battery died 25 and I think they you know they [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► can what you farming I got a bad things that 45 percent battery after an 18 hour [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► day means crazy yeah I for me its batteries been such a non-issue the only [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► time I ever got vaguely clueless never once ran all the way down but one time [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► in the first week while I was really you know working pretty much warning tonight [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► on how am I gonna write this first review of the watch you know when the [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► embargo drops next week I mean and really using it in a way that was not [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► reflective of the daily use of it it was really more like I was able to get [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► quality assistance tester you know like I'm testing a lot like it was my job to [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► play with it although I ran it down to the by 10 percent or something like that [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► but that was that was truly abnormal I do think though that there is I haven't [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► seen anybody publish any kind of specs on it but I think the difference between [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► 38 and 42 on battery life is truly significant as it seems like my wife and [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► son both have 38 definitely finished the day lower neither one has ever run out [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► but they're both significantly lower I was thinking I'd be buying an extra [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► magnetic charger and I keep in my car and I had all these like ideas on [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► average about the watch and I don't need any of that stuff for me it's just plug [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► it in it and you know charge at the end of the day I'm fine but if I had a [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► setting and I feel like the other thing they wanted to do I think you're exactly [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► right that they said we don't want anybody saying that this thing is [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► crapping out before they go to bed so I feel like the roughly day and a half [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► battery life that they've hit is exactly right because that way you definitely [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► have to charge it every day by you I don't see anybody complaining that the [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► watch is turning black before they go to sleep [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► yeah but I can you know and there are some hypothetical scenarios I mean I am [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► an old man and I just stay home all the time [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► but when I heard a younger man there were times where I would you know spur [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► the moment windup you know sleeping someone that wasn't my house you know [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► just sleeping at a friends you know you handled it really well I don't even mean [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► to imply anything I don't mean to imply anything any kind of even adult [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► situation may be other than the the consumption of adult beverages yeah when [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► I was younger man it'd be more like a overnight halo party you know what you [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► know what that's a dad soon example to know I like in college we would have all [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► night marathon sessions you know where you had wanted to play a network game [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► yet to be in a land that's a perfect example where there's nothing in a brawl [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► not imply anything inappropriate or that I let any kind of crazy lifestyle but [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► you know in college I sometimes would not sleep in my bedroom or I wouldn't [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► come home until six or seven in the morning you know in which case I I do [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► wonder whether the why I don't know that the watch as it is today would make it [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► then these like charging straps and where things are showing up I i think [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► thats all completely abandon its crazy and I don't understand because you have [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► to do anyway to charge it is too is underneath it and that's it I don't see [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► how they can possibly work with the with the tenders that they have the center [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► circle bananas if they're not connected to your skin it's it's funny how much [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► time we spend weeks and thinking about battery life and and batteries because [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► the whole world has changed in the last five six years as all mobile now and and [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► charging my phone battery time as Sookie and and and it's the big constraint [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► right now too so everything you think about charging I I'm upset about it I [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► have charging docks all over my house and like I'm just sitting here right now [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► my phones and a charger doesn't need to pay its at a hundred percent at sino 1 [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► o'clock in the afternoon but I can't help myself have you found that your [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► wife or your iPhone gets worse battery life now that year [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► using it with your watch haven't noticed any I am convinced that I am I'm [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► convinced that and I think it's because I never used anything Bluetooth before [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► and so yeah I had it on for the future costs and doesn't handle hentoff [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► required Bluetooth though I think it may not but I know that like airdrop [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► requires Bluetooth but but it only ever before I started using Apple watch I was [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► only ever had grey blue tooth in the status bar great Bluetooth means like [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► Bluetooth is on but you're not connected to anything it's just just low power [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► mode and it's there for like oh ok you can hand off this web pages email [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► they've started writing underfunded and it only really does anything but now [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► it's black all the time it's the black Bluetooth because it's going to watch [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► and I'm convinced I'm getting worse battery life on the phone I'm still [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► making it through the day but I am dropping into the red whereas in the [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► first few months of using an iPhone 6 I never was in the red eyes bluetooth [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► headphones and stuff all day long so it's I can't tell any difference I'll [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► tell you one thing about the watch that I didn't expect to like as much as I do [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► is that whole forst touch thing let me just fine I really like having that [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► additional user interface [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► you know just clearing your notifications with a force but yeah yeah [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► it's I hope that that stuff makes its way to the thought I've said this before [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► and I know it sounds like a joke but my number 252 tips for anybody get sample [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► watch as I know what you're going to do is what you gonna do it in a box and [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► you're gonna put it on and go through the parent process and just started [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► using it [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► exploring and doing it [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► so go ahead I'm not going to tell you that you know take your vitamins open it [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► up put it on play with it and then a day or two later when you feel like you're [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► confused you feel like you're not getting it here's the two things to do [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► go back to your packaging and reread the Getting Started pamphlet which is just [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► six panels I'm not saying read the user manual I'm saying just read that getting [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► started panel which is like almost like a comic book many user manual because [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► you'll i guess i i guarantee most people will find something that they didn't [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► know or didn't remember like oh that's how you do Apple pay you start by double [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► tapping that but like when I I'll admit I like when I would first week that I [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► was had a watch I i couldn't get out the paperwork and went to Whole Foods and I [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► held my watch up to that I figured it worked like the phone I knew that I had [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► two double tap that button to confirm it I just figured you start by holding a [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► watch up to the terminal and then when it paintings like ok ready for Apple [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► paid then you double tap to confirm and nothing happened and I thought oh well [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► maybe I didn't set up and then let you know but just read a pamphlet I'm [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► telling you gonna learn something and there's so many questions I see it on [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► Twitter every day when people are still getting their watches and they're asking [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► questions that are answered in that that pamphlet and then I have like the that [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► whenever he double tap the crowd goes to the last yeah yeah I've seen people say [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► I wish there was some way to just go back to the last I double click the [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► crowd they've really thought of that and then my second attempt my only two top [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► tips my second tip is Triforce tapping everywhere [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► any app you use whether it's from Apple whether it's from a third-party Triforce [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► tattoo and see if there's something there [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► yeah you're right and and so often that's like the answer to all problems [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► when you're stuck somewhere you know there was a lot of talk when they first [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► came out about two things that the forces are raised complain about [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► notifications which I never really got it seemed to me like especially [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► some of these people at a tech press should understand that notifications are [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► entirely within your control but you know it's not that hard to to just [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► notification that hasn't really been an issue for me but the other one that I [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► thought was kind of unfair is that the whole thing about saying well this is a [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► different interface and it's harder to figure out well it is a different [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► interface it's a smaller screen but I I don't think you should expect it any [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► different I do think maybe it would be better if there was a way if you know [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► they're two buttons are winning there's one button you can press that would [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► always give you a watch face but I i really think it really wasn't that hard [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► to figure out I haven't linked to it yet but I almost certainly will [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► before the show airs were recording on Thursday it here on Friday Stephen North [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► going to have a link from doing fireball I will try to remember the link to it [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► and show you are making a no right now [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► Stephen Lawrence had an interesting like first week with the iPhone blog post and [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► one of his ideas was that he thought that maybe the [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► the side button instead of being underneath the crown should have been [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► opposite the crown and that you could tap it to go back so that is he found a [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► demi was in any app that have an obligation you know the route and then [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► you type of thing and then you go in and then there's a little back button up [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► there that it's really hard to tap that back button and I completely six weeks [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► and I still miss back buttons a lot in that upper corner or depending on the [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► app I've tried to be hitting a back button and even worse than missing it [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► all hit something beneath it like I've been trying I've been experimenting with [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► Wonder list price shopping and stuff like that like a little shopping list [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► and wonder list and then it's on my wrists and I don't have to go to the [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► supermarket chillin with a phone I can just keep going to my wrist but I find [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► that sometimes you know I try to hit the top item today either check it off and [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► hit the back button it goes back to my list a list or a try to go back to the [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► back let's listen end up checking the top item so his ideas put a hardware [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► button to go back which I don't think it's a good idea and I think if you put [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► it opposite the digital crown would actually create the same sort of [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► problems people have with the power button and the volume up button on the [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► iPhone's sex where people are opposite each other and people put their fingers [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► on both of them and then they try to squeeze one in the end up squeezing the [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► other times you gotta take a picture in turn your camera or phone off that that [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► new jersey guy Mike early and Jason selling the upgrade podcast a few weeks [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► ago did kind of a thing about this and Mike made the point that you know the [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► home screen on the watch is the watch yes and I thought he made a really great [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► point that it should be all there should be one button that just get you to the [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► watch face at any time and the promise of digital crown is it it's inconsistent [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► sometimes it does that sometimes it go somewhere else [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► and I you know it the case that up on a lot of time figuring this out but but I [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► still appreciate the idea of just every user knows they press one button and the [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► watch face comes up and from there hopefully figured out [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► gestures enough to be able to get to where you need to go yeah it's a great I [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► I really do think that that's true and I think calling the list of apps the home [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► screen I don't even know if Apple is calling it don't know if they even call [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► it that but it's not you know and it's only serves to confuse you make you [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► think that it's that watch works like a little iPhone and I do think that that [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► is a great point because I think part of the beauty of iOS is that the Westway [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► the home button or no matter where you are you can hit home runs and it's going [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► to take you to the home screen but then looking at my wife and daughter who [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► neither one of them a geek store wanna be Mac power users or anything like that [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► they used to watch is just fine you know i mean they are not having any trouble [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► using it so maybe they did it right right but the way I can I OS like you [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► just single tap the home button and it takes you to your home screen and it [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► doesn't matter if you're in a nap hit the home button next to the home screen [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► if you're already on the home screen and you've brought up control center or [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► you've brought down notification so you can hit the home screen and it goes away [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► now you don't have to because you can just tap together to go away but if you [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► don't know how to do that because there's no button that says make it go [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► away just hit that home button and it takes you there so I can kinda see the [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► logic of if there was just a button that always took you to watch face now think [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► users will appreciate that it's his front just fine when Apple make [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► something new like a 1.0 product I agree and just to see what they've done with [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► it and i know im a geek and all that stuff but it's just cool to be part of [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► it I think the one that excited me the most when it came out was the iPad [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► because it's just that I just felt like it was such a a great idea and it was [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► just so awesome that showed up I [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► but but both both the iPad the iPhone when they came out I spent weeks just [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► like going over every detail in just plain with them and think about the the [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► the watches I didn't spend that much time fiddling with american I got it set [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► up the way I wanted a company watch face picked out and I put it on and I went on [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► with my day but I'm just using it just hasn't ended all the time I think it's a [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► good thing but it is different [TS]

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00:58:58 ◼   ► like I go to send any restaurant if there's a Caesar salad appetizer list i [TS]

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01:01:38 ◼   ► here's one more before we go to move on from the watch but this is one that I've [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► been thinking about [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► I have turned on if you go to Settings text and something like two things that [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► don't really seem like they belong in the same settings panel brightness and [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► TXT text size I've turned on the option for bold text you ever tried this know I [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► have it so I think a lot of people probably haven't you might have because [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► when you toggle it either way it pops up a dialog that says hey changing this [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► setting requires restarting your watch and so when it first week that had I saw [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► that I'll do that later I don't feel like restarting a lot right now takes [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► like two or three minutes for the watch I really like the way it looks and I [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► don't even think that it's and accessibility issues although it could [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► be for some but it's not under General accessibility it's under text settings [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► it's like a legitimate option I really like the way it looks now the truth is [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► I'm you know as we spoke up for 4200 made perfectly healthy right eye is [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► already sort of on the [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► beginning cusp of acquiring reading glasses and my left eye is a mass so you [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► know part of it is maybe age-related maybe but I kind of like it even like [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► when I don't even have my contacts and then my eyes really can't I can still [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► see super good cause I really like the way the bold text looks I really think [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► it looks sort of sort of like the way that in the classic Mac OS that like [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► chicago was sort of a bold bold font and I just activated while you're talking I [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► can see that I know what you're very particular about typography so I never [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► thought you'd be the guy who who tested the pic you would want the built-in I [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► but I really loved it and especially here's where I especially love the bold [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► text is on watch faces not even I feel like it looks a little bit weird when [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► you get like a text and you see the text you know i kind of what I would really [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► like to talk about power user features like if if there was an equivalent of [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► like the way you can do like defaults write tax on on Mac OS 10 to get [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► preferences only been available visually but I would love to do is turn it off [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► everywhere except watch faces and only have it on watch faces at dis what it [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► means is that all the complications have boulder slightly boulder Texas not like [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► bold it's like switching from a light ish version of San Francisco 20 like a [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► medium bowl semi bold version of San Francisco and I feel like it's a really [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► good luck and in a way that to me looks a lot like like a lot of real mechanical [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► watches have fun on the dial that are of this rough wait yeah yeah it really into [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► me it also to go back to the viewing in sunlight it makes the complication text [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► easier for me to read in sunlight [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► do you think they're going to allow developers to submit their own watch [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► races at any point no I do not I really don't because I think that or I think [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► most likely know and I think if they do it'll it'll be a system that [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► ones like the way Apple TV runs today where they will be partnerships that are [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► cultivated yeah but that there is no there will you know there's an app store [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► already for apps that has thousands of apps from anybody and everybody I think [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► if they ever do third-party watch faces it would be like Apple TV and it would [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► be cultivated list at hand selected and approved by Apple at a very high level [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► yes icon that people they had it was just it was a crazy people had these [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► nutty faces but then occasionally someone would you like a really classy [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► fruit or based watch face that looks really really actually better than [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► anything that they had been there till David you realize you're speaking about [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► people in the past [TS]

01:05:57 ◼   ► well through in my life it is a past it didn't even realize it [TS]

01:06:06 ◼   ► no i didnt i I have to pre order in for the pebble time I keep on the color [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► purple color was just feel like they should have called it but it's called [TS]

01:06:15 ◼   ► purple time the thing that I can tell is going to be a can tell it's gonna be a [TS]

01:06:20 ◼   ► non-starter and I feel bad for them for me at least maybe some people you know [TS]

01:06:24 ◼   ► some people might really still preferred but for me the thing that kills it is [TS]

01:06:28 ◼   ► the fact that this did this play is so clearly different from the bezel around [TS]

01:06:33 ◼   ► the display yes it doesn't matter what to me whether its color and i'd to me it [TS]

01:06:38 ◼   ► just looks so elegant looks like you have a little screened strapped arrest [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► as I know it's cheaper that's a that's a motivation are you can run up for [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► several days but the thing you know have been used one for a year just the fact [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► that it it just didn't stay paired consistently with an iPhone and maybe if [TS]

01:06:56 ◼   ► you've got an Android device you're better off but with an iPhone I just [TS]

01:07:01 ◼   ► found it very inconsistent and and that was just you know frustrating so [TS]

01:07:06 ◼   ► and I don't have a problem at all with the Apple of course one of the weird [TS]

01:07:11 ◼   ► things about this that I hate columns more like just the new digital watch 2.0 [TS]

01:07:18 ◼   ► these new computerized digital watches is that you don't really have a lot of [TS]

01:07:24 ◼   ► choice it really it all starts with what phone use and pebbles trying to straddle [TS]

01:07:28 ◼   ► these two worlds and I wish them the best of luck I'd s why I preordered the [TS]

01:07:32 ◼   ► time I hope that they make it and I hope that they know I i feel like i we need [TS]

01:07:37 ◼   ► more companies like people to succeed but I just feel like it's so hard [TS]

01:07:41 ◼   ► because they're fighting these massive massive companies like Apple and Google [TS]

01:07:46 ◼   ► who have these resources that are just so hard for them to match with a can't [TS]

01:07:50 ◼   ► match the resources but the fact that they can't make it harder for them to [TS]

01:07:54 ◼   ► compete but like the Android where vs Apple watch there's a minute debate like [TS]

01:08:02 ◼   ► whatever let you know if you're if you use an iPhone you know I wondered where [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► it doesn't work with I know there's rumors that they are going to make it [TS]

01:08:09 ◼   ► work with it and I can the next month or two at Google i/o but it's not going to [TS]

01:08:15 ◼   ► be the level of integration that Apple waters because they're only gonna be [TS]

01:08:18 ◼   ► able to do the things that people can do with iOS which is all limited by the App [TS]

01:08:23 ◼   ► Store restrictions for what it can do you know when you're going to have this [TS]

01:08:27 ◼   ► goodly setup process for Bluetooth free after four digit code it is gonna be [TS]

01:08:34 ◼   ► limited and if you have an Android phone you do don't even have a choice to use a [TS]

01:08:38 ◼   ► nap what I grew up in the era where you know you'd be trying to use a Palm Pilot [TS]

01:08:44 ◼   ► with a Mac or candy candy where processor called it'll be all these [TS]

01:08:51 ◼   ► technology that wasn't Apple based trying to get to work with apple and it [TS]

01:08:55 ◼   ► was such a pain that I just have a zero tolerance for even trying that stuff at [TS]

01:08:59 ◼   ► this point I mean if Apple makes both pieces I'm just going to use the thing [TS]

01:09:03 ◼   ► that really my had a handspring buzzer my wife had 12 and she probably used to [TS]

01:09:08 ◼   ► more than I did which is pretty interesting because you know [TS]

01:09:11 ◼   ► is this background 99 2000 and I remember this when I was working a [TS]

01:09:16 ◼   ► bare-bones software my pal gym Korea is now at the Omni group like he did like [TS]

01:09:21 ◼   ► the best thing everybody like 25 like replacement stylus is answering visor so [TS]

01:09:27 ◼   ► it was like a jar candy on his desk like just go you know alright gimme gimme [TS]

01:09:33 ◼   ► five point got one in every never had to worry about losing your goddamn stylist [TS]

01:09:38 ◼   ► was it and I'm pretty careful with my devices but it was like it was a common [TS]

01:09:43 ◼   ► problem syncing your software mac was the biggest I think it was kept me from [TS]

01:09:47 ◼   ► eventually made me abandon it and part of the problem to visit the max of that [TS]

01:09:51 ◼   ► era didn't really have standard system databases for things like that there was [TS]

01:09:56 ◼   ► no built-in contact you know and classic there was no standard context so it's a [TS]

01:10:01 ◼   ► you could sink with something but it was like a limited number of third party [TS]

01:10:04 ◼   ► options and there was no standard [TS]

01:10:06 ◼   ► system wide calendar i I tell people everything that gets into the discussion [TS]

01:10:11 ◼   ► about a pricing I talked to them about how my Palm Pilot about every month or [TS]

01:10:16 ◼   ► two it was just duplicate all of my contacts and if I didn't fix it and [TS]

01:10:21 ◼   ► another month I would have four copies of every contact and so on and somebody [TS]

01:10:26 ◼   ► made it happened it was $50 and all it did was go out and knock out duplication [TS]

01:10:31 ◼   ► as I was so happy to pay you know and now it's like this Apple change your [TS]

01:10:36 ◼   ► life and it'll be allow you to get your work done and go home earlier how much [TS]

01:10:41 ◼   ► as five bucks five bucks what are you talking [TS]

01:10:46 ◼   ► could so true I think somewhere that's crazy I don't like an inverse curve to [TS]

01:11:01 ◼   ► like the price of a cup of coffee more coffee gets the more or less willing [TS]

01:11:05 ◼   ► people are willing to pay for apps Joanna stern of the wall street journal [TS]

01:11:15 ◼   ► has her column a couple of weeks ago was about how to fix up viewer Word contacts [TS]

01:11:23 ◼   ► database you know that if you like her over the years have wound up like she [TS]

01:11:28 ◼   ► had like four entries for her dad like one was just his email one was just his [TS]

01:11:31 ◼   ► phone number you know one you know i get if you have a relative I guess bob but [TS]

01:11:37 ◼   ► he's also listed as Robert you know and it's two entries and you know that [TS]

01:11:41 ◼   ► there's a bunch of these utilities that you can you can buy 22 you know pics at [TS]

01:11:46 ◼   ► all and it's a song like in the comments people were like $4 but it's like it [TS]

01:11:53 ◼   ► would save you like it's like her whole thing was like you know if you have 500 [TS]

01:11:58 ◼   ► contacts and you did it by hand if I these apps can help you like they could [TS]

01:12:02 ◼   ► you can easily save an hour right and so an asshole who doesn't whose time is not [TS]

01:12:08 ◼   ► worth $4 for an hour or whatever the process of matching hair on your [TS]

01:12:11 ◼   ► deathbed and you say you can't live another hour to $4 what he's gonna say [TS]

01:12:17 ◼   ► you know i mean alright so speaking only building let's talk about you and your [TS]

01:12:23 ◼   ► so you're you're an attorney and had been what was what was your practice [TS]

01:12:29 ◼   ► business I'm a business attorney represent small companies have been [TS]

01:12:33 ◼   ► doing for 21 years but I was in law firm the whole time until about two months [TS]

01:12:39 ◼   ► ago and I got out of there man I hit the brakes all of this other stuff that [TS]

01:12:44 ◼   ► you've been doing all the podcasting blogging all the writing and all this [TS]

01:12:47 ◼   ► stuff is all been on the side of you being a full-time partner in a law firm [TS]

01:12:52 ◼   ► not net net was never partner [TS]

01:12:55 ◼   ► that the way it was set up just wasn't set up that way but I was I was always [TS]

01:12:59 ◼   ► full time where and now you are you talking but you quit that quit that job [TS]

01:13:08 ◼   ► yeah you're doing this stuff full time but you also have your own new law [TS]

01:13:15 ◼   ► practice [TS]

01:13:16 ◼   ► yeah it's weird you know it's like maybe looking back I mean I guess on a few [TS]

01:13:20 ◼   ► years yeah it's a very public thing you know when you quit a job that pays well [TS]

01:13:26 ◼   ► you got insurance and all that stuff and you're like ok and I'm gonna do that i'm [TS]

01:13:30 ◼   ► gonna write about you know the Mac and and do some law stuff too but I i wanted [TS]

01:13:34 ◼   ► to have more control and you know just you know as you get older you just that [TS]

01:13:39 ◼   ► control thing is more important to you and I know maybe at some point I wanted [TS]

01:13:43 ◼   ► to be like a big-time lawyer in a big-time arm but that's just not me I [TS]

01:13:47 ◼   ► like representing small guys my clients are represented on the software [TS]

01:13:52 ◼   ► developers I do contracts for them and stuff like that you know so this is [TS]

01:13:57 ◼   ► something I could have done on my own but I just invite the overhead in [TS]

01:14:00 ◼   ► wanting more meetings etched in one all the stuff that comes with being as part [TS]

01:14:04 ◼   ► of a big operation and and have also been doing the Mac sparky stuff so I [TS]

01:14:09 ◼   ► wanted to be able to have more time for that so I figured out of work a little [TS]

01:14:13 ◼   ► bit less as a lawyer and a little bit more snacks market have a better balance [TS]

01:14:16 ◼   ► in my life so I went out and announced that I've done this and now the whole [TS]

01:14:20 ◼   ► world can watch me you know go down in flames are or make it work I'm not sure [TS]

01:14:24 ◼   ► I'm still on that play with you i'm looking at the Excel spreadsheet [TS]

01:14:26 ◼   ► everybody but they but it feels absolutely the right thing I mean I'm [TS]

01:14:32 ◼   ► sorry I just tell my wife I said I gotta make this work there's no way I could [TS]

01:14:35 ◼   ► ever go work for somebody ever and I've gotta make this man but it's so far it's [TS]

01:14:40 ◼   ► it's great my love it and the communities been really good to me and I [TS]

01:14:44 ◼   ► had dinner in a month or so ago I actually it was when I got the review in [TS]

01:14:50 ◼   ► truth a polite I went to New York the night before just won't have to take the [TS]

01:14:53 ◼   ► train in the morning and and [TS]

01:14:54 ◼   ► Jason cut can I had dinner and we are talking about how having been successful [TS]

01:14:59 ◼   ► at this and having done it for ourselves full time for some number of years now [TS]

01:15:02 ◼   ► has rendered as completely unemployed I am certainly well-known and I think I [TS]

01:15:12 ◼   ► think that if I needed to get a job I get certainly final and I you know and [TS]

01:15:17 ◼   ► then I think I would be I would be let go with this is this is one of the [TS]

01:15:25 ◼   ► things that surprised me about this whole thing was I got a lot of new [TS]

01:15:30 ◼   ► clients from Max parking people had been listening to me in their ear you know [TS]

01:15:34 ◼   ► how r podcasting in writing for all these years now I can I could actually [TS]

01:15:38 ◼   ► use you to help me with some stuff and and that was a surprise to me I had no [TS]

01:15:44 ◼   ► expectation of any legal business from this and so I was kind of nice but but [TS]

01:15:51 ◼   ► it's also give me more time so you know I'm working from home and office paper [TS]

01:15:56 ◼   ► come home more than I go into the office and I love it you didn't think that we [TS]

01:16:00 ◼   ► like years ago back when you said here's my new work shoes and you had a pair of [TS]

01:16:05 ◼   ► slippers here and I don't you probably don't even know every since then that [TS]

01:16:11 ◼   ► has stuck in my brain and its kinda pissed me off and Mike grouper can have [TS]

01:16:15 ◼   ► those slippers as workers I need to find a way to make it work and they have [TS]

01:16:19 ◼   ► their good that's the big time go by pierce the junker my my year of work [TS]

01:16:26 ◼   ► shoes is right now in the socks period just one pair socks then it'll go to [TS]

01:16:34 ◼   ► it'll be flip flops sooner and you know like after WWC it'll be more slip lobby [TS]

01:16:43 ◼   ► then I'll go back to stocks and then go to slippers yeah well you got you get [TS]

01:16:48 ◼   ► the seasons they're just bare feet pretty much and I'm upset though at the [TS]

01:16:52 ◼   ► slippers I think the Swedish couple years old and that it was the best [TS]

01:16:56 ◼   ► person has ever had [TS]

01:16:58 ◼   ► and I wore a hole through them and and i couldnt today that I forget where they [TS]

01:17:05 ◼   ► live bottom but I went back and they didn't have anymore and I really wish [TS]

01:17:10 ◼   ► that I had done when I always think I'm gonna do which is what I find something [TS]

01:17:14 ◼   ► like that I really like just pull a Steve Jobs and by like 20 of them and [TS]

01:17:17 ◼   ► put them in a closet and then you know I never thought about it again for the [TS]

01:17:22 ◼   ► rest of my life the best chance eyes yeah exactly why not [TS]

01:17:26 ◼   ► although there's a thing of Steve Jobs who had a lot more space to store things [TS]

01:17:30 ◼   ► like yeah my wife she's like don't buy more but you know I feel like I could [TS]

01:17:38 ◼   ► take him out of the boxes you mean I guess if I could take him out of the [TS]

01:17:41 ◼   ► boxes at Liberty could you could put that all in one box I'm definitely one [TS]

01:17:47 ◼   ► of those habit people like when I had a nice going into the office every day and [TS]

01:17:52 ◼   ► I didn't have court I had like eight pairs of lands in grey slacks and like [TS]

01:17:59 ◼   ► 12 blue shirts and everyday wear the same thing and every office that I was [TS]

01:18:04 ◼   ► such a weirdo but it just made so much sense to me to get out of bed and shower [TS]

01:18:10 ◼   ► and put that on that was the uniform I think that the slippers I love the most [TS]

01:18:13 ◼   ► wetlands and actually and then they stopped making them and in fact I go [TS]

01:18:18 ◼   ► through slippers this job is so hard David I've gotta go through slippery so [TS]

01:18:22 ◼   ► fast I have in fact I've noticed that the slippers that I've been wearing last [TS]

01:18:26 ◼   ► year too now that they're sort of put away for the warm weather I notice that [TS]

01:18:32 ◼   ► they're sort of worn through the joke about was a grandfather was a coal miner [TS]

01:18:38 ◼   ► maternal grandfather was a coal miner had mine as well i mean he also tied up [TS]

01:18:44 ◼   ► black long I mean it's just me stop and think about it or my father grandfather [TS]

01:18:49 ◼   ► and during the depression they have any money they would go out into the [TS]

01:18:52 ◼   ► backwoods of Massachusetts and truck trap red fox and that's how they that's [TS]

01:18:58 ◼   ► how they ate and that's how they got by [TS]

01:19:00 ◼   ► and I'm sitting here going to find on this watch if you was here he would just [TS]

01:19:08 ◼   ► laugh I know I think the one hand I think on the one hand my grandfather [TS]

01:19:12 ◼   ► would have been no I think first he would have been very very proud because [TS]

01:19:17 ◼   ► I think it was exactly the way he personified that American dream of I [TS]

01:19:22 ◼   ► want my kids to have better life than me in all my mom was a registered nurse [TS]

01:19:27 ◼   ► went to nursing school and her brother was like a trade school and was into [TS]

01:19:34 ◼   ► like electronics like sort of -ism that the gadget power still does he's using [TS]

01:19:40 ◼   ► the first guy I knew my life who had a video game system hooked up to a TV palm [TS]

01:19:44 ◼   ► pre pre Atari 2600 back in the 77th I might add you know but they both of them [TS]

01:19:53 ◼   ► ended up with white-collar jobs well registered nurses will be hard to call a [TS]

01:19:58 ◼   ► physical but it's you know it requires you know and education and it's [TS]

01:20:05 ◼   ► certainly better than coal mining and I think it would have been delighted that [TS]

01:20:08 ◼   ► his grandson you know a job that is you know like mine but I and i dont know [TS]

01:20:13 ◼   ► that he would have had much tolerance for my complaints about the my I can [TS]

01:20:18 ◼   ► vary blue-collar roots showing my my dad was actually really concerned when i [TS]

01:20:23 ◼   ► said im gonna go to law school he's like that's going around you he says you know [TS]

01:20:26 ◼   ► there's just no way you'll be able to be a decent person and a lawyer and it's [TS]

01:20:31 ◼   ► funny because he was totally honest when he said it and it has affected my life [TS]

01:20:36 ◼   ► in so many ways that that concern it's always in the back of my head and [TS]

01:20:40 ◼   ► and you know it points in my legal career where I could have jumped right [TS]

01:20:44 ◼   ► or left it always you know I was jumped right because of that statement you know [TS]

01:20:49 ◼   ► it's interesting how your parents if I had it I took an Instagram me put it in [TS]

01:20:54 ◼   ► here I took an Instagram the other week and I'll let it slide this is like my [TS]

01:21:00 ◼   ► thing and it's i I get when I get criticism well I just have a thick skin [TS]

01:21:05 ◼   ► that stuff side but that's the picture I took and its there's a hotel couple [TS]

01:21:11 ◼   ► blocks away here in Philly it's a real seedy motel if you look at the Yelp [TS]

01:21:16 ◼   ► reviews for its called the Parker spoofs it's like the type of literally is the [TS]

01:21:21 ◼   ► type of hotel we can go in and you know you can get it by the hour and it is [TS]

01:21:28 ◼   ► closing I didn't know this until after I took this picture but it was a picture [TS]

01:21:32 ◼   ► these guys taking mattresses out of the hotel and the mattresses from Mike seedy [TS]

01:21:39 ◼   ► hotel that rent by the hour [TS]

01:21:42 ◼   ► really pretty bad looking mattress yeah I thought was fascinating but I that [TS]

01:21:48 ◼   ► capture it is known grows up thinking they'll be one of the guys who [TS]

01:21:51 ◼   ► disposable batteries from a seedy hotel and and a lot of people are comments are [TS]

01:21:56 ◼   ► like wow what a dick you comment you know like I was making fun of these guys [TS]

01:21:59 ◼   ► and that I guess you could read it that way but that isn't what I meant at all [TS]

01:22:02 ◼   ► honestly to me it was just like a slice of life and I have nothing but total [TS]

01:22:07 ◼   ► respect for these guys I did those guys that when I thought as I walked past [TS]

01:22:11 ◼   ► them is as I had thought like when I think about my grandfather those guys [TS]

01:22:15 ◼   ► are working for live that's [TS]

01:22:17 ◼   ► job taking those potent down those mattresses out of a hotel and it may not [TS]

01:22:24 ◼   ► hot but that hotel is not air-conditioned you know i mean and [TS]

01:22:28 ◼   ► moving one is is hard work and these guys are moving and I don't know what to [TS]

01:22:32 ◼   ► say the least a dozen of them there that's all I meant by I thought it was [TS]

01:22:38 ◼   ► so weird that people jumped on me as though I was marking his people I just [TS]

01:22:42 ◼   ► thought like hey you know my my thought was that people were gonna read this [TS]

01:22:45 ◼   ► maybe this will help you appreciate you know whatever it is you do that is [TS]

01:22:48 ◼   ► probably a [TS]

01:22:49 ◼   ► love ice arduous then moving mattresses it's so easy to get in trouble on the [TS]

01:22:55 ◼   ► internet for history with an audience yourself and i just i just let it slide [TS]

01:22:59 ◼   ► but anybody who saw that he thought I was making fun and I really didn't mean [TS]

01:23:03 ◼   ► it that way at all I meant that I can I keep talking earlier I mean you would go [TS]

01:23:09 ◼   ► back to work for software developers that's what it do you know or you know [TS]

01:23:13 ◼   ► whatever I i would dig ditches if that's what it whatever it takes you know i [TS]

01:23:17 ◼   ► mean and you know I just think we're lucky that were able to get by without [TS]

01:23:21 ◼   ► have to do that stuff this point exactly side I'd be really lousy [TS]

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01:24:00 ◼   ► coffee . local local is Bonjour but anyway there's a ton of these new [TS]

01:24:07 ◼   ► top-level domains I can even hope to list them all [TS]

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01:24:19 ◼   ► what you'd call those but even better that every every domain registry helps [TS]

01:24:25 ◼   ► you register domain names but however does the right way [TS]

01:24:29 ◼   ► are you know we talk about seattle City Hotel the top that the domain registry [TS]

01:24:36 ◼   ► business is in large part kind of CD attack the online equivalent of CD where [TS]

01:24:40 ◼   ► you go there and I am I gonna name names but you can't think of one that's a big [TS]

01:24:45 ◼   ► one [TS]

01:24:46 ◼   ► you go there and the site is filled with junk yards when you trying to sign up [TS]

01:24:51 ◼   ► there's all sorts of upsells check boxes for things that are checked by the fall [TS]

01:24:58 ◼   ► that ought to be off by default I really shouldn't even be an option at all then [TS]

01:25:02 ◼   ► you find out that if you want [TS]

01:25:04 ◼   ► DNS privacy so that your personal address in your phone number and said [TS]

01:25:08 ◼   ► you aren't listed out wide open for the internet for anybody who looks at your [TS]

01:25:12 ◼   ► DNS records have to pay extra for that however has none of that there's no [TS]

01:25:18 ◼   ► upsells there's no junkie ads for their third party stuff on their stuff all [TS]

01:25:22 ◼   ► they want to do is help you manage your domain names the right way things like [TS]

01:25:27 ◼   ► domain privacy [TS]

01:25:28 ◼   ► all that stuff it's all included and they have amazing customer support [TS]

01:25:34 ◼   ► truly amazing customer support they call it [TS]

01:25:38 ◼   ► Valley service so you sign up to be another customer and you've got domain [TS]

01:25:43 ◼   ► names and other registrars and you're already happy you've already seen enough [TS]

01:25:47 ◼   ► that you know yes I want to move all my domain names to offer but I've been [TS]

01:25:51 ◼   ► registering domain name since 1995 on this that and the other service all over [TS]

01:25:56 ◼   ► the web just give your stuff help that you know give your your support rep at [TS]

01:26:00 ◼   ► however access to these other registrars rehab domains and covered his valet [TS]

01:26:06 ◼   ► service will just move those domains will do whatever it takes to fill out [TS]

01:26:10 ◼   ► the forms send faxes whatever has to be done they'll move a mall near her [TS]

01:26:15 ◼   ► account and then all of a sudden boom all of your domains are all their [TS]

01:26:19 ◼   ► undercover with the best interface the best service [TS]

01:26:23 ◼   ► you have to pay for that that the valley service is just part of being a customer [TS]

01:26:28 ◼   ► and it's just cleaned up a hassle that is could be nagging at you for the last [TS]

01:26:33 ◼   ► 20 years about I should consolidate all my dominique simone place really really [TS]

01:26:38 ◼   ► great I i have domain names however I know people everybody I know has someone [TS]

01:26:44 ◼   ► over nobody ever says you know what maybe I'll go somewhere else after once [TS]

01:26:47 ◼   ► you go to cover you like why would ever go anywhere else so great [TS]

01:26:51 ◼   ► there's a code that will save you 10 percent on a domain name at Harvard [TS]

01:27:00 ◼   ► missing links and that is in reference to the fact that the link bracelets on [TS]

01:27:07 ◼   ► the Apple i7 chips or only started to ship so use that code missing links and [TS]

01:27:15 ◼   ► you will save money and they all know that you came from the talk show my [TS]

01:27:20 ◼   ► thanks to have her could hover dot com HOV ER and use that code missing links [TS]

01:27:26 ◼   ► and filmmaking from here so what else we got to talk about I got a new Mac he [TS]

01:27:37 ◼   ► asks I did want to talk to you about that I got pulled in on the new MacBook [TS]

01:27:43 ◼   ► superlight twelve-inch [TS]

01:27:46 ◼   ► this is all right you did tell me you got that you did not tell me which color [TS]

01:27:51 ◼   ► I'm going to use my psychic powers to predict that you purchased spacecraft [TS]

01:27:57 ◼   ► but I mean it's something different but it's not cold [TS]

01:28:05 ◼   ► you know the fact that you can order when I remember when you have to pay [TS]

01:28:08 ◼   ► extra for the black one definitely have the plastic yeah that's true and it's [TS]

01:28:17 ◼   ► true watch right talk about the missing link like the space black bracelet watch [TS]

01:28:23 ◼   ► costs more than stainless steel now that's not more than just a color that [TS]

01:28:27 ◼   ► was not the standard size today that diamond-like whatnot diamond like carbon [TS]

01:28:31 ◼   ► what the hell is a diamond-like carbon DLC coating is a real thing and it [TS]

01:28:36 ◼   ► actually does add value you know it arguably does add value to about any way [TS]

01:28:41 ◼   ► you'd have to pay more for him because of the switch in my life I used to go to [TS]

01:28:48 ◼   ► work for the man every day and I had a 15 inch Retina MacBook Pro it's the [TS]

01:28:52 ◼   ► first the very first read the MacBook Pro and it's a great computer and it's [TS]

01:28:57 ◼   ► it's a it's a beast you know in the nice big screen when you're sitting at your [TS]

01:29:00 ◼   ► desk eight hours a day is fine but now that I've switched top I don't need I [TS]

01:29:05 ◼   ► have a right now I'm back at home and I'm working on that a lot and not using [TS]

01:29:10 ◼   ► the laptop as much but I still need one so I thought you know what I'm kind of [TS]

01:29:14 ◼   ► as a second computer this may work for me and I was a little worried about the [TS]

01:29:18 ◼   ► keyboard so I decided to to buy one and just see you know they've got a 14 day [TS]

01:29:23 ◼   ► return policy if it's just terrible I'll take it back but I stuck with it and I'm [TS]

01:29:28 ◼   ► gonna sell the MacBook Pro and and I really liked it I mean it's it's cool [TS]

01:29:34 ◼   ► having something so light and slam you know we joke in my life now is [TS]

01:29:39 ◼   ► Disneyland because my wife is a complete Disneyland nice to be Jungle Cruise [TS]

01:29:43 ◼   ► skipper know I can totally see you were probably exxon I was people waited for [TS]

01:29:49 ◼   ► my they would say I want his boat away and I'll tell you someday I'm gonna be [TS]

01:29:54 ◼   ► at WWDC sit down and I will tell you some great job [TS]

01:29:54 ◼   ► at WWDC sit down and I will tell you some great job [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► but in terms of jungle cruise captain ideal as I think I don't think Steve [TS]

01:30:05 ◼   ► Martin actually was on the don't think so but yeah there there's actually some [TS]

01:30:11 ◼   ► interesting people that are former skippers it was so much fun I mean it [TS]

01:30:15 ◼   ► was like the greatest job and had it through high school even my son in law [TS]

01:30:20 ◼   ► school I would go down there and work nights cuz I just needed money and like [TS]

01:30:25 ◼   ► the boats would get stuck at Disneyland it's an old right system and the boats [TS]

01:30:29 ◼   ► would derail you be stuck out there like 30 minutes and you know you can't do [TS]

01:30:35 ◼   ► anything in a way for the guy to come to yank the boat back on the rail and I'd [TS]

01:30:39 ◼   ► be like telling people how to break their leases and stuff but you know it [TS]

01:30:46 ◼   ► was so but now that I'm like I have more control my schedule my wife what's good [TS]

01:30:50 ◼   ► times all driver up there and then I like go like over to a quiet restaurant [TS]

01:30:56 ◼   ► with this new laptop and sit there and write contracts for two or three hours [TS]

01:30:59 ◼   ► and I really liked it but the site is it's a nice computer that the keyboard I [TS]

01:31:05 ◼   ► don't think is as good as the standards standard keyboard but it's good enough [TS]

01:31:11 ◼   ► well and it's why I feel like the using typing on the glass for lo these many [TS]

01:31:17 ◼   ► years has lowered our standard for what's an acceptable Keyport [TS]

01:31:22 ◼   ► get you know in my opinion and again i've talked to people that Apple about [TS]

01:31:25 ◼   ► this and they said you know that for the iPad like this around the era when [TS]

01:31:32 ◼   ► Microsoft Surface first came out and really kind of hung its hat on the fact [TS]

01:31:37 ◼   ► that the cover had a physical keyboard and there is a lot of speculation that [TS]

01:31:42 ◼   ► Apple Michael out something like that who knows maybe they still will someday [TS]

01:31:44 ◼   ► maybe they will with this iPad bro thats rumored to be coming but then I heard [TS]

01:31:49 ◼   ► from a couple of you is you cannot you cannot overstate just how good like some [TS]

01:31:58 ◼   ► kids are today [TS]

01:31:59 ◼   ► typing on an iPad and my kids who don't have ingrained habits for physical keep [TS]

01:32:05 ◼   ► keyboards [TS]

01:32:06 ◼   ► are so blazingly fast typing on an iPad you just can't believe it's you know and [TS]

01:32:11 ◼   ► that the long you know skating to where the puck is going is not worrying about [TS]

01:32:15 ◼   ► you know those of us with habits on old cookie keyboards my 18 year old can type [TS]

01:32:22 ◼   ► on an iPhone as fast as I can [TS]

01:32:25 ◼   ► are probably very close to us fast I can type on a keyboard as a touch typist and [TS]

01:32:29 ◼   ► knowing that she can type on an iPhone while not look yeah I've seen it I [TS]

01:32:34 ◼   ► believe it I totally believe it and it's you know again it just plays it it did a [TS]

01:32:39 ◼   ► little different than the iPad argument but not really is that plays into that [TS]

01:32:42 ◼   ► argument of you know back in 2007 2008 even 2009 as people who are used to buy [TS]

01:32:49 ◼   ► groceries and stuff we're thinking about switching like well you know when when [TS]

01:32:53 ◼   ► they come out with the hardware keyboard someone like me who needs the type can [TS]

01:32:56 ◼   ► type you know there is this assumption that anybody was getting by on and no [TS]

01:33:00 ◼   ► physical keyboard iPhone doesn't really type on it as the truth is there are [TS]

01:33:04 ◼   ► people who type lots of stuff on them they don't type the traditional method [TS]

01:33:09 ◼   ► but they still be able to you know O'Malley types a lot of his blog post on [TS]

01:33:14 ◼   ► his phone on his iPhone he does he he you know I've seen him do it he he you [TS]

01:33:19 ◼   ► know and he's I can't say that he's fast probably is like a teenager but you know [TS]

01:33:23 ◼   ► he's going as fast as he wants to be a writer [TS]

01:33:27 ◼   ► well with this computer the Retina screen to me was the big win cause I [TS]

01:33:32 ◼   ► really need a Retina screen i've I cannot use a computer without around I'm [TS]

01:33:36 ◼   ► always wanted a slim notebook in fact somebody wants loan me an 11 inch and I [TS]

01:33:42 ◼   ► tried it for a while and it just the screen I couldn't look at it just bugged [TS]

01:33:46 ◼   ► me every time I looked at it and this is great but that the really crazy thing [TS]

01:33:49 ◼   ► about this computer is I have this external iPhone charger [TS]

01:33:55 ◼   ► that's when I got off Amazon I think it's you know it's a medium sized [TS]

01:33:59 ◼   ► charger I got thinking I wonder what would happen because the power is going [TS]

01:34:03 ◼   ► through the USB what would happen if I plug the battery into the laptop would [TS]

01:34:08 ◼   ► the laptop recharge the battery or the battery recharge the laptop [TS]

01:34:14 ◼   ► so I bought off Amazon a USBC male to USB the old USB standard whenever it is [TS]

01:34:22 ◼   ► a B cable and and I just plugged in the battery to the laptop and it charge the [TS]

01:34:29 ◼   ► laptop which is awesome [TS]

01:34:32 ◼   ► smoky brick type things you had it say they have to pull it out but I mean it's [TS]

01:34:38 ◼   ► I think I paid like 30 bucks for it it's like I'm not having that try and say [TS]

01:34:43 ◼   ► what the electronic trading as I look it up and tell you about the it's it's just [TS]

01:34:47 ◼   ► something that you're supposed to buy to charge your iPad or iPhone you know it [TS]

01:34:51 ◼   ► if you plug it in to and it charges up and it's got I think two USB ports on a [TS]

01:34:56 ◼   ► female USB ports and you plug in the new plug it into your phone but the thing [TS]

01:35:00 ◼   ► charges up the laptop and it if the laptop to rate me and it basically [TS]

01:35:05 ◼   ► treads water you know it doesn't lose power and the battery goes out slowly of [TS]

01:35:10 ◼   ► this thing but I'm able to at like five hours of battery life to it so now I've [TS]

01:35:15 ◼   ► got that kind of hours you know exactly and then I did an experiment where I [TS]

01:35:21 ◼   ► turned it I ran it down to think 10% and then just played the fully charged [TS]

01:35:25 ◼   ► battery into it with the bed and it's very slow I mean it's not like charging [TS]

01:35:28 ◼   ► really fast but when I woke up it was a like 75% it was like she so it was able [TS]

01:35:34 ◼   ► to put a lot of charge back into the laptop so so now I really feel like I [TS]

01:35:39 ◼   ► can go anywhere because I've got this little battery in a USB cord and this [TS]

01:35:43 ◼   ► little light laptop and I can go anywhere in the world and just work for [TS]

01:35:46 ◼   ► a long time I feel like as time goes on Apple and and apples prowess at [TS]

01:35:52 ◼   ► designing a working with medals and miniaturized components grows more and [TS]

01:36:01 ◼   ► more you have to see their stuff in person to get and I think the watch is a [TS]

01:36:07 ◼   ► perfect example of it I mean they've they've done to commercials they they [TS]

01:36:11 ◼   ► have a website that they've had ups in September with hundreds of super high [TS]

01:36:15 ◼   ► quality photos of the watches every watch every band [TS]

01:36:19 ◼   ► from every conceivable angle and I can't tell you how many times I've got an [TS]

01:36:23 ◼   ► email from readers and listeners who said you know I was kind of going to [TS]

01:36:27 ◼   ► wait for her to point out and then I saw the watch and I was like oh my god I can [TS]

01:36:31 ◼   ► provide in order one on April 24th as soon as they saw it but only when I saw [TS]

01:36:35 ◼   ► it in person and I feel like a difference between the MacBook Airs are [TS]

01:36:39 ◼   ► all of the whole MacBook line and the new MacBook [TS]

01:36:43 ◼   ► you have to see them it when you see it in person it I I thought you know I'm I [TS]

01:36:51 ◼   ► I like the idea of a minimal map I was sort of like maybe I should have just [TS]

01:36:55 ◼   ► bought a new 13 inch MacBook Pro last year so I mean I'm not really in the [TS]

01:36:59 ◼   ► market to replace it now but it did make me think maybe I should have waited a [TS]

01:37:04 ◼   ► little longer because it does seem like something you know if I have read a [TS]

01:37:07 ◼   ► five-game Mac iMac at my desk and I'm only using the MacBook away from it [TS]

01:37:12 ◼   ► that seems a great and then I saw in the store and it was just like an emotional [TS]

01:37:16 ◼   ► thing takes in the sports car you know it's like so much smaller and I i use [TS]

01:37:21 ◼   ► the 11 inch air for years just because I like the idea of the smallest possible [TS]

01:37:25 ◼   ► notebook that you can with a full time with a full-size keyboard just can't [TS]

01:37:31 ◼   ► adding a blew me away with how much it looked more like an iPad with a keyboard [TS]

01:37:34 ◼   ► then a MacBook I get just internet portability and size and you get the Mac [TS]

01:37:40 ◼   ► operating system right yeah still is you know gives you a lot of automation stuff [TS]

01:37:45 ◼   ► just really can't do realistically with a knife it's it's great i love it and [TS]

01:37:50 ◼   ► I'm very happy with it except I I would not sell the keyboard and the keyboard [TS]

01:37:56 ◼   ► is different and it I'm used to it now it's like there's a there's like a happy [TS]

01:38:00 ◼   ► medium because if you press too hard on it or just training yourself because [TS]

01:38:04 ◼   ► they're just not that much travel so your bike over pressing but then you [TS]

01:38:09 ◼   ► start pressing lighter because you don't want over harassing you actually miss [TS]

01:38:12 ◼   ► keys you don't you don't get the full you know throw the key and there's like [TS]

01:38:16 ◼   ► a sweet spot in the middle I think I've got it now but it took me a few days to [TS]

01:38:19 ◼   ► kind of get used to my thing is I've never liked any laptop keyboard and I've [TS]

01:38:24 ◼   ► always appreciated that Apple does their best and really does like I remember a [TS]

01:38:28 ◼   ► couple years is obviously a couple years [TS]

01:38:30 ◼   ► Steve Jobs but at one point they were he was introduced in one of the new some [TS]

01:38:33 ◼   ► new MacBook and said something about their keyboard engineers and he said yes [TS]

01:38:37 ◼   ► by the way we really do have some engineers who all they do his work on [TS]

01:38:40 ◼   ► keyboards I appreciate that I can yet shows and it's totally not surprising to [TS]

01:38:46 ◼   ► me that there are some smart guys in women and Apple we've just dedicated [TS]

01:38:51 ◼   ► their dedicated to making kickass keyboards or making the biggest Asus [TS]

01:38:57 ◼   ► keyboard they can given this size constraints of something like the Holy [TS]

01:39:03 ◼   ► appreciate that I think I can do I know that I probably would like a quite as [TS]

01:39:06 ◼   ► much as the MacBook Pro which has more throw but I like my old leaven that I [TS]

01:39:11 ◼   ► used for years had less the road than the 13 inch MacBook Pro Keyboard [TS]

01:39:15 ◼   ► you know I got used to it annulment cause nothing compares to a nice desktop [TS]

01:39:19 ◼   ► keyboard in my opinion and just the ability to take it anywhere with you and [TS]

01:39:24 ◼   ► when it's this light you really can take it anywhere with you and that is [TS]

01:39:28 ◼   ► something special that that charger by the way looked it up it's an anchor I [TS]

01:39:32 ◼   ► got off Amazon its 12800 million power charger and its I just can't get over [TS]

01:39:39 ◼   ► that shit hundred-million piled up and try to put [TS]

01:39:47 ◼   ► but just the fact that an iPhone charger can charge my laptop and unlike ours to [TS]

01:39:53 ◼   ► it is crazy but that's where we are now I do you think he gets it you know [TS]

01:40:00 ◼   ► everybody digs on that there was an article that said the processor matches [TS]

01:40:04 ◼   ► like the 2011 MacBook Air which may be accurate at least I I got the upgraded [TS]

01:40:09 ◼   ► one I didn't get the entry I got the second tier but the but I don't think [TS]

01:40:14 ◼   ► those articles are really fair to it in terms of like memory access and the SSD [TS]

01:40:18 ◼   ► speed because it works fine I'm not using it to you final cut or iBooks [TS]

01:40:24 ◼   ► Author I'm using it for things like you know on the focus and and word [TS]

01:40:29 ◼   ► processing and email and so far and stuff and it's just fine for that stuff [TS]

01:40:33 ◼   ► it again I did and I feel like as much as you would if you're torn before you [TS]

01:40:43 ◼   ► see it it's like I feel like once you see them in person and had to settle and [TS]

01:40:47 ◼   ► it's like you can tell yourself in the abstract that you know maybe you know [TS]

01:40:53 ◼   ► just wait a couple years before I get a Retina screen MacBook I'll just get the [TS]

01:40:56 ◼   ► the MacBook Air because I want more I want a couple of USB ports or I want [TS]

01:41:01 ◼   ► whatever I want the extra performance in the way that the 13 inch MacBook Pro or [TS]

01:41:06 ◼   ► MacBook Air is still faster than this new MacBook go see it in person like you [TS]

01:41:11 ◼   ► just get this emotional and to me the MacBook Airs look suddenly looks so [TS]

01:41:15 ◼   ► dated in the Apple Store like nine Retina screen and its funny cuz I've [TS]

01:41:21 ◼   ► been depressed about the fact that the vision problems that have been thinking [TS]

01:41:25 ◼   ► like all my life i've been waiting for the right now I've always known it was [TS]

01:41:29 ◼   ► coming up we get these displays at a fight print quality resolution as I got [TS]

01:41:32 ◼   ► when I turn you know it the forties and my vision starts to go and I have this [TS]

01:41:36 ◼   ► thing in my lifetime so you know what though it's I get actually is the [TS]

01:41:39 ◼   ► opposite its like the red the screens actually help you know like the fact [TS]

01:41:42 ◼   ► that my vision isn't so good it's not that I can't appreciate the way I would [TS]

01:41:45 ◼   ► if everything had gone right now like in my thirties or let alone my twenties got [TS]

01:41:50 ◼   ► it would have been amazing when my eyes were fantastic and I could see [TS]

01:41:53 ◼   ► everything super super tiny but even with promise it looks better it's a [TS]

01:41:58 ◼   ► totally tell you know looking in on the screen is it just looks it's gross in my [TS]

01:42:05 ◼   ► opinion and I got this theory that you know the MacBook Air is this gonna go I [TS]

01:42:12 ◼   ► think it's you know it's just like when the MacBook Air came out the MacBook at [TS]

01:42:19 ◼   ► the time eventually went away [TS]

01:42:21 ◼   ► eventually the new MacBook is gonna become the standard machine and then the [TS]

01:42:25 ◼   ► MacBook Air is going to become [TS]

01:42:27 ◼   ► I think I think the formula is very simple and I think people over thought [TS]

01:42:31 ◼   ► this I think it's simply the fact that the entry level price once it goes down [TS]

01:42:37 ◼   ► it really can't go back up and the entry level price for a Mac laptop has dropped [TS]

01:42:44 ◼   ► $8.99 and that was a couple of years ago when they first added the 899 11 inch [TS]

01:42:51 ◼   ► MacBook Air right yeah it's been awhile but there's a reason why they haven't [TS]

01:42:57 ◼   ► dropped it further and you know part of the reason is that Apple just doesn't do [TS]

01:43:02 ◼   ► you know compete low end but I think it's so that when they make a transition [TS]

01:43:06 ◼   ► like this they don't have as far to go to catch up and I feel like the MacBook [TS]

01:43:10 ◼   ► Airs go away as soon as they can sell the current entry-level MacBook one or [TS]

01:43:17 ◼   ► whatever we want to call it you know the MacBook one port for $8.99 yeah it so I [TS]

01:43:23 ◼   ► feel like you know you're from now they'll come out with new MacBook ones [TS]

01:43:28 ◼   ► with new specs at the price that it's at right now and they can sell the one they [TS]

01:43:32 ◼   ► already are making right now for $8.99 and then at that point the MacBook Air [TS]

01:43:35 ◼   ► goes way but they can't do it they couldn't do it now because they couldn't [TS]

01:43:39 ◼   ► just say all right you know you should be able to buy a Macbook Air for a 99 [TS]

01:43:43 ◼   ► but now it starts it [TS]

01:43:44 ◼   ► $11.99 and even just the way they named it tells you that speaks in fact it's [TS]

01:43:49 ◼   ► almost like the biggest Telegraph strategically you know their future [TS]

01:43:54 ◼   ► strategy and that I can ever think of from them are in fact that the [TS]

01:43:59 ◼   ► enterprise $12.99 so it's even higher so it's got a ways to go I can't even see [TS]

01:44:05 ◼   ► them doing maybe maybe if they could get it to 999 I could see them sort of and [TS]

01:44:11 ◼   ► maybe what they would do at that point [TS]

01:44:13 ◼   ► is is dropped the 13 inch MacBook Air and only keep the 11 inch around at 899 [TS]

01:44:21 ◼   ► like maybe phase out the 13 inch first and only key and only keep one model and [TS]

01:44:28 ◼   ► the 11 inch around which is the a99 if they could you know once they can drop [TS]

01:44:32 ◼   ► this one did 999 but that's the only thing holding them back there and they [TS]

01:44:36 ◼   ► usually they have no sympathy for the people who need two USB ports or [TS]

01:44:40 ◼   ► whatever and usually they are pretty eager to get rid of old stuff but then I [TS]

01:44:46 ◼   ► look at their still selling a MacBook Pros with spinning disks and I'm so I'm [TS]

01:44:50 ◼   ► kind of surprised those are still on the market it's funny what they're willing [TS]

01:44:53 ◼   ► to keep around at the entry level I'm not sure what the market at this point [TS]

01:44:58 ◼   ► is for that the spinning disk MacBook MacBook Pro I gotta feel like that might [TS]

01:45:04 ◼   ► be of all the devices in the Mac line that so there's only the 39th Ryder do [TS]

01:45:12 ◼   ► they have a fifteen-inch to now there is no 15 into the spending despite spending [TS]

01:45:16 ◼   ► desk [TS]

01:45:17 ◼   ► somebody from the education but my guess would be education they're gonna buy a [TS]

01:45:20 ◼   ► Mac with being at the eleven of the 13 inch MacBook Air entry yeah I just don't [TS]

01:45:24 ◼   ► see what the appeal is of the 13 inch entry-level MacBook Pro across 1099 I [TS]

01:45:30 ◼   ► just don't see what the what the what the appeal is carrying all that extra [TS]

01:45:34 ◼   ► weight around for something I guess it has better graphics than the MacBook Air [TS]

01:45:38 ◼   ► I don't know some people would say probably mainly monkey people are very [TS]

01:45:44 ◼   ► concerned about the loss of that optical drives like I wanna watch my DVDs on the [TS]

01:45:49 ◼   ► airplane or whatever and I'll buy whatever Mac lets them do that I guess [TS]

01:45:53 ◼   ► that's why I don't know that seems crazy to me though it just seems at least it [TS]

01:45:59 ◼   ► seems on on Apple like to me for them to be worried about that [TS]

01:46:04 ◼   ► yeah i dont spinning disks it's too seems you know the only reason to have a [TS]

01:46:10 ◼   ► spinning disk is dead you know rip represented digital format yeah I S St [TS]

01:46:17 ◼   ► transition and I was old enough to have remember the floppy die hard drive [TS]

01:46:22 ◼   ► transition years ago I agree with him and then just a few years ago when we [TS]

01:46:27 ◼   ► went to St FL to me like every computer just got WAY better I mean if you're [TS]

01:46:32 ◼   ► listening you have a knesset in your computer yet that's like to go to SSDs [TS]

01:46:37 ◼   ► can't fail I mean any all disks trail eventually in you know corruption can [TS]

01:46:42 ◼   ► happen because the software not hardware but the stability of SSDs vs [TS]

01:46:48 ◼   ► unreliability versus hard drives its just night and day it's just the [TS]

01:46:52 ◼   ► craziest you know an end of the worst part is of all the things that can fail [TS]

01:46:57 ◼   ► people don't have you no good backup you know the whole show that because I know [TS]

01:47:01 ◼   ► did you guys are you know rightly so if there's anything to be religious about [TS]

01:47:05 ◼   ► it having good backup you know policies in place [TS]

01:47:08 ◼   ► duplication replication you know but let's face it a lot of people don't and [TS]

01:47:14 ◼   ► if there's anything that's going to fail it's hard a spinning hard drive and it's [TS]

01:47:17 ◼   ► like the worst thing to fail because it's the thing that could cause you to [TS]

01:47:20 ◼   ► lose the stuff you care about most I imagined myself like is this like [TS]

01:47:24 ◼   ► gray-haired old geek talking to some young and explain yeah it was spending [TS]

01:47:29 ◼   ► $70 per minute and it had a little needle that would touch it and if it [TS]

01:47:35 ◼   ► didn't touch in the right place all of your data was lost I just gonna look at [TS]

01:47:40 ◼   ► us like we're driving models it tomorrow they work as well as they do I truly is [TS]

01:47:46 ◼   ► a mechanically its mechanical marvel that it works as well as it does but you [TS]

01:47:52 ◼   ► know if you think wow that seems like something you might fail frequently well [TS]

01:47:55 ◼   ► exactly right [TS]

01:47:58 ◼   ► yeah I told me that number I'm staring at this 13 inch MacBook Pro I cannot [TS]

01:48:01 ◼   ► believe that it's actually like a current device that yeah I wonder if [TS]

01:48:07 ◼   ► that's a difference between new Apple an old apple I wonder if they're more [TS]

01:48:11 ◼   ► willing to keep stuff a little bit longer it's not you know that the [TS]

01:48:14 ◼   ► MacBook Pro line isn't too complicated but it just sticks out a little bit and [TS]

01:48:18 ◼   ► I'm not quite sure what the market is that have to be tried just switching [TS]

01:48:24 ◼   ► gears have you tried the photos out have you tried this whole thing that you know [TS]

01:48:27 ◼   ► what that's a great thing let's close out the show talk about photos but [TS]

01:48:31 ◼   ► before we do I have to thank our last sponsor and it is our good friend good [TS]

01:48:39 ◼   ► friends at fracture you guys don't fractured they are one of the biggest [TS]

01:48:43 ◼   ► supporters of the show I love them to death they have a great product [TS]

01:48:48 ◼   ► what they do is they take your photos you take photographs on your iPhone take [TS]

01:48:53 ◼   ► them on your camera whatever you want to do you take them and send them to [TS]

01:48:55 ◼   ► fracture they print them directly on glass I don't know how they do it got [TS]

01:49:02 ◼   ► some kind of proprietary apparatus that they take your digital photos directly [TS]

01:49:07 ◼   ► on the surface of class right there on the glass and then they ship them to you [TS]

01:49:11 ◼   ► and these fantastically clever things that are packaging material like the box [TS]

01:49:18 ◼   ► that protects it in shipment because it is class in there and then you open it [TS]

01:49:22 ◼   ► up and the cardboard that's in there is the apparatus you need to do something [TS]

01:49:27 ◼   ► like hanging on the wall [TS]

01:49:29 ◼   ► propped up on your desk anything you'd want to do they have an enormous variety [TS]

01:49:35 ◼   ► of sizes everything from little three by three type things to giant 23 by 29 inch [TS]

01:49:43 ◼   ► wall sized poster size sizes everything from small to large really great quality [TS]

01:49:54 ◼   ► cannot emphasize even with iPhone pictures cannot emphasize just how well [TS]

01:49:58 ◼   ► that you know I know megapixels overrated as a camera quality thing but [TS]

01:50:02 ◼   ► we've gotten to the point where Lake 8 megapixel pictures you can blow them up [TS]

01:50:06 ◼   ► really big and they look great what's our site and look at their site right [TS]

01:50:11 ◼   ► now so they're large is 15.6 inches by 20.8% extra large thats 2229 so really [TS]

01:50:19 ◼   ► big you can go really really big they've also got square sizes so if you've got [TS]

01:50:24 ◼   ► you know and let's face it there's a lot of us are framing pictures of squares [TS]

01:50:28 ◼   ► right now [TS]

01:50:28 ◼   ► squares go up to 23 by 2311 by 11 five by five really really great prints [TS]

01:50:35 ◼   ► program take pictures or pictures you framed as a square cannot say enough [TS]

01:50:40 ◼   ► about the quality of their stuff and how fun it is to get it and actually see [TS]

01:50:45 ◼   ► your photos somewhere other than on glowing screen to just hang around wall [TS]

01:50:48 ◼   ► and appreciated father's Day is coming up you can order an event really it's [TS]

01:50:54 ◼   ► just a no-brainer that we need to think about it he really don't it's the [TS]

01:50:57 ◼   ► greatest it it sounds lazy but I'm telling you it's the greatest because [TS]

01:51:01 ◼   ► your relatives love getting pictures of family members and seems really personal [TS]

01:51:06 ◼   ► is the easiest thing to do so go check them out [TS]

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01:51:23 ◼   ► one word during fireball and you'll save 15% off any order and the prices are [TS]

01:51:30 ◼   ► great already but you can save more just by being a listener the show you guys [TS]

01:51:34 ◼   ► are ordering these things like crazy I can appreciate enough that's why [TS]

01:51:37 ◼   ► fracture keeps coming back to sponsor the show again keep it up but I cannot [TS]

01:51:42 ◼   ► say enough how much I personally endorse their product it's it's just terrific so [TS]

01:51:46 ◼   ► my thanks to them [TS]

01:51:48 ◼   ► marcar meantime he had his apps done and so I had all my ducks ducks have written [TS]

01:51:56 ◼   ► several books and I had them done with fracture prints but because I'm a [TS]

01:52:00 ◼   ► narcissist I hung them downstairs and like my family room whenever they see [TS]

01:52:05 ◼   ► like this a while but covers and I don't know I can tell myself but it makes me [TS]

01:52:11 ◼   ► happy just maybe I should emphasize photos but it really does work well with [TS]

01:52:15 ◼   ► images of any kind I know I've been in Marcos office and i've seen his abs and [TS]

01:52:19 ◼   ► they look great they really do i mean a app icons are so big somebody pointed [TS]

01:52:23 ◼   ► out recently but like a app icon the asset for it take up more space than [TS]

01:52:31 ◼   ► would have fit on a high-density floppy disk likes you can even fit in a bygone [TS]

01:52:36 ◼   ► floppy disk it's so easy to say back in my day talking about this transition [TS]

01:52:43 ◼   ► from bobbys [TS]

01:52:45 ◼   ► alright so photos this was another reason I wanted to have you on the show [TS]

01:52:50 ◼   ► so they blast episode I think I think just exactly what I said episode 255 Mac [TS]

01:52:59 ◼   ► power users great episode you and Katie go really long on on the new photos from [TS]

01:53:04 ◼   ► Mac and the whole iCloud photo sinking thing we don't have to repeat it here [TS]

01:53:10 ◼   ► too great if anybody out there as users great episode really great introduction [TS]

01:53:15 ◼   ► to the show and if you're interested in the details but long story short I think [TS]

01:53:21 ◼   ► all of us were kinda skeptical but that's the story it seems to me like [TS]

01:53:25 ◼   ► everybody for years has been saying I can't do cloud services that's that's [TS]

01:53:30 ◼   ► their weak spots I can never gonna happen [TS]

01:53:32 ◼   ► and they released this photos out and they've got the iCloud Photo Story [TS]

01:53:36 ◼   ► granted you have to pay for missing you have a decent number of photos but but [TS]

01:53:42 ◼   ► and I knew the new Photos app would handle libraries better than i photo did [TS]

01:53:46 ◼   ► I mean I always had the impression for the last year to that they had moved [TS]

01:53:49 ◼   ► their engineering resources to something new and photo I thought it was kind of a [TS]

01:53:53 ◼   ► lingering but whatever the new thing was gonna be it was kinda display your [TS]

01:53:56 ◼   ► photos just fine on your Mac but the big question mark to me was will design club [TS]

01:54:01 ◼   ► photo thing work and when I make a photo on my phone will show up on my Mac and [TS]

01:54:06 ◼   ► iPad no problem and will all this magic stuff they they showed off last year [TS]

01:54:10 ◼   ► come true and you know in my opinion it did damned if they didn't pull it off [TS]

01:54:15 ◼   ► and nobody's talking about it really i mean i mean we've talked we did a show [TS]

01:54:20 ◼   ► on it we got a lot of people listening to our show I have done this field have [TS]

01:54:25 ◼   ► only had like a couple people complaining about performance or clouds [TS]

01:54:29 ◼   ► think I mean there are a lot of people heading this thing hardware like 30,000 [TS]

01:54:33 ◼   ► photo libraries and it's more that the skepticism was actually twofold is the [TS]

01:54:38 ◼   ► first is general skepticism about Apple and cloud-based anything and then second [TS]

01:54:44 ◼   ► is that when it comes to photos I think so many people had burned out on iPhoto [TS]

01:54:48 ◼   ► and had run up to the performance limits like and you know bottom line I don't [TS]

01:54:55 ◼   ► know where the line is I guess it probably depends a little maybe even on [TS]

01:54:58 ◼   ► the size of the photos I know what kind of camera you're using to take the [TS]

01:55:01 ◼   ► photos you putting in there but it is certain reasonable level of photos I can [TS]

01:55:05 ◼   ► not like wow that's that's abnormal but like and probably just combined with the [TS]

01:55:11 ◼   ► fact of how long [TS]

01:55:11 ◼   ► digital cameras have been great so like iPhoto comes out in the early two [TS]

01:55:17 ◼   ► thousands but though you know I live in the digital strategy of apple and [TS]

01:55:21 ◼   ► everybody's only got hundreds of photos 1000 or 2000 and you know low in an hour [TS]

01:55:27 ◼   ► in the 2010 and everybody everybody might have 10,000 photos and iPhoto [TS]

01:55:32 ◼   ► wasn't dealing with that well and you know it's scrolling problems performance [TS]

01:55:37 ◼   ► problems just everybody with you know there is a vibrant third-party market [TS]

01:55:42 ◼   ► for utilities that would help you split up your iPhoto library [TS]

01:55:48 ◼   ► you know and switch between different libraries because you know just keeping [TS]

01:55:53 ◼   ► all your photos and one big library wasn't work working technically but the [TS]

01:55:57 ◼   ► whole idea and so that's a great work around but the whole idea of having to [TS]

01:56:01 ◼   ► manage all these libraries defeated the whole purpose of iPhoto in the first [TS]

01:56:04 ◼   ► place which is supposed to be that you know hey you're not supposed to just [TS]

01:56:08 ◼   ► throw out here is a place where you throw your photos and photos but the new [TS]

01:56:13 ◼   ► photos promised people were skeptical about that but I think the truth is that [TS]

01:56:17 ◼   ► you know quietly in the midst of all this hubbub about the watch Apple has [TS]

01:56:23 ◼   ► solved a massive longstanding problem yeah and it and it works I mean I just [TS]

01:56:29 ◼   ► try was running in the beta and I was thinking well it's the beta there's not [TS]

01:56:34 ◼   ► that many people hitting the server blah blah blah but when I released my wife's [TS]

01:56:38 ◼   ► libraries even bigger than mine and it uploaded trying and it's you know it [TS]

01:56:41 ◼   ► just works so I'm really happy to see that you know I I'm sure there's a lot [TS]

01:56:47 ◼   ► of smart people at Apple that knew that they had this reputation and this was [TS]

01:56:50 ◼   ► something they needed to deliver on but but it really really does so I got [TS]

01:56:56 ◼   ► excited about it and we we did a whole show on it and the reason the weird [TS]

01:57:02 ◼   ► thing is I was going to write a book about gonna write a book called photo [TS]

01:57:05 ◼   ► management for Mac and iOS and I had a whole lot on the Outlander is full of [TS]

01:57:10 ◼   ► ideas and drop box and all these you know third-party services and it's a [TS]

01:57:14 ◼   ► great was a great book but then I so using photos in like with this there's [TS]

01:57:19 ◼   ► no book here i mean just used photos do you think and that's not that's not true [TS]

01:57:24 ◼   ► for the pros I mean I'm you know there's there's a there's edge cases before most [TS]

01:57:28 ◼   ► people this will solve your problem I do think that there [TS]

01:57:32 ◼   ► is you know if there's a complaint to be had its that Apple's public statement is [TS]

01:57:37 ◼   ► paraphrasing but that they're no longer developing appetizer or iPhoto in favor [TS]

01:57:44 ◼   ► of the going all in on photos for Mac this is their new photo solution and I [TS]

01:57:49 ◼   ► think the truth of it is that it falls somewhere in between [TS]

01:57:55 ◼   ► it is a better it's certainly better at handling a large number of photos [TS]

01:58:00 ◼   ► without question I don't see how anybody could deny that way better to me as an [TS]

01:58:05 ◼   ► object of an object of statement on the subject of one way better than that [TS]

01:58:09 ◼   ► handling a large number of photos then I put order was I think subjectively it is [TS]

01:58:13 ◼   ► better at editing photos [TS]

01:58:15 ◼   ► you know the tools I cropping and adjusting the I would almost say in [TS]

01:58:20 ◼   ► comparison to iPhoto it is object of sleep better because like changing the [TS]

01:58:26 ◼   ► amount of light in an image just turning up exposure doesn't do exactly that it [TS]

01:58:32 ◼   ► it screws up other things whereas in this case if you turn up to make an [TS]

01:58:36 ◼   ► image to add more light it turns down shadows as it does a whole bunch of [TS]

01:58:39 ◼   ► stuff at once to make it better so they're they're bringing like having [TS]

01:58:43 ◼   ► more professional editing abilities and that you don't get with iPhoto site even [TS]

01:58:48 ◼   ► better for that they don't get the local changes like a pitcher you could locally [TS]

01:58:53 ◼   ► you know increase the light in one section of Reg sure you can't do that [TS]

01:58:56 ◼   ► anymore but I think you know if you're a pro user then and you really loved a [TS]

01:59:02 ◼   ► picture you're probably not going to be happy to know and you know I don't know [TS]

01:59:06 ◼   ► that there's a lot of them out there I know they're a or even if you're you [TS]

01:59:09 ◼   ► know semi-pro prosumer whatever you wanna call it I know that there's a lot [TS]

01:59:12 ◼   ► of people out there who honestly evaluated both Lightroom and Aperture [TS]

01:59:17 ◼   ► and preferred temperature and I i'm a long time [TS]

01:59:20 ◼   ► Lightroom user but not like any process just like to hold all pro very much on [TS]

01:59:26 ◼   ► the sooner side of gross humor but I like later and I know that it's sort of [TS]

01:59:29 ◼   ► like a funky you I but I like it and it to me it's not like an Adobe you I it's [TS]

01:59:34 ◼   ► like it just a unique you I thought was very thought [TS]

01:59:37 ◼   ► rural really like it but I told you can see why I even as a non at non [TS]

01:59:42 ◼   ► professional photographer I can see the differences in Aperture and Lightroom a [TS]

01:59:45 ◼   ► can see why people preferred aperture and those people are kinda left with the [TS]

01:59:51 ◼   ► short end of the stick hair because photos doesn't do enough for them and [TS]

01:59:56 ◼   ► they already had decided that they didn't like lightroom as much as a [TS]

02:00:00 ◼   ► pitcher yeah yeah I mean just seem like the kind of a trend for people are using [TS]

02:00:05 ◼   ► the pro apps from a family they're they're aiming lower I think what they [TS]

02:00:11 ◼   ► say that middle or whatever they call it but they are but for most people I mean [TS]

02:00:16 ◼   ► and I think that and I and I totally acknowledge those people are not going [TS]

02:00:20 ◼   ► to be happy but for so many people such a great many more people they were [TS]

02:00:25 ◼   ► completely baffled by what to do with their photos because they're taking you [TS]

02:00:30 ◼   ► know hundreds of pictures at one event on their phone and they just leave them [TS]

02:00:33 ◼   ► on their phone or they they figure out how to get it on to their Mac up there [TS]

02:00:37 ◼   ► and they got a folder somewhere and it's not backed up and they can't access it [TS]

02:00:42 ◼   ► and I just completely crazy and whereas with this new system we were at a family [TS]

02:00:47 ◼   ► party and someone was talking about something that funny that happened in [TS]

02:00:50 ◼   ► 2006 and I was able to pull up a picture of it on my phone and it just like blue [TS]

02:00:55 ◼   ► their mind it is true I find that the way that they automatically you know the [TS]

02:01:04 ◼   ► the interface that they've come up with this sort of years you know the year's [TS]

02:01:09 ◼   ► level it's clearly you can't see what the the details are but just remember [TS]

02:01:15 ◼   ► when something happened vaguely you can go back there and you know you remember [TS]

02:01:21 ◼   ► it was sometime in August we went you know we went on a cruise in August of [TS]

02:01:24 ◼   ► 2009 or divers who back to 2009 but down to about where August is you probably [TS]

02:01:30 ◼   ► see a lot of blue [TS]

02:01:32 ◼   ► on ocean and just are doing in there and you're going to find that photo yeah I [TS]

02:01:37 ◼   ► was surprised how well it worked in a magazine like a great interface for an [TS]

02:01:41 ◼   ► iPad or an iPhone and I think I'll I'm not sure if it's the best thing to do in [TS]

02:01:44 ◼   ► the Mac but when I started playing with it you know really it is pretty nice you [TS]

02:01:49 ◼   ► can just scroll you can see the year in a year as maybe it two or three inch [TS]

02:01:52 ◼   ► block of very small thumbnails and so you can go back year is very easily and [TS]

02:01:59 ◼   ► it's just you know it and having been in iPhoto with the crazies lag time for so [TS]

02:02:03 ◼   ► long it's it feels like you know jumping into a sport I do think too that it [TS]

02:02:09 ◼   ► plays into something that I've been saying for a while now and I know people [TS]

02:02:13 ◼   ► sometimes over used the word quietly quietly but I do think that they've sort [TS]

02:02:20 ◼   ► of quietly become and by but but not by luck not that they've done you know [TS]

02:02:26 ◼   ► backed into it but purposefully have become arguably the leading camera [TS]

02:02:32 ◼   ► company in the world or was certainly without question one of the leading [TS]

02:02:36 ◼   ► companies in the world that they make devices now they just happen to be [TS]

02:02:40 ◼   ► iPhones and iPad but they make devices that people use as their primary cameras [TS]

02:02:46 ◼   ► or if not their primary it's an important camera to their life and part [TS]

02:02:53 ◼   ► of that is more than just the today's world it more than just taking the [TS]

02:03:00 ◼   ► photos it is everything that happened after them putting them in a place where [TS]

02:03:05 ◼   ► you can instantly share them and having them be organized and the whole idea the [TS]

02:03:12 ◼   ► old school way and we still need to do it if you're taking photos with [TS]

02:03:16 ◼   ► third-party camera stand alone can you still need to be connected by usb or pop [TS]

02:03:20 ◼   ► you know the card out and put it in your computer and import them but the idea [TS]

02:03:27 ◼   ► that you need to do anything more than that to have them everywhere is just a [TS]

02:03:30 ◼   ► non-starter at least in terms it should be and now with photos a kind of its [TS]

02:03:35 ◼   ► yeah I i just i I cannot get over how little has been made of this but it just [TS]

02:03:42 ◼   ► seems to me like this is a really good sign that [TS]

02:03:44 ◼   ► you know Apple can figure out the club and they can do big data I think part of [TS]

02:03:49 ◼   ► it is institutionally I think it is truly an important thing to them I [TS]

02:03:53 ◼   ► really do and I think it's one of those things where there's a lot of people [TS]

02:03:56 ◼   ► that Apple all the way up to the highest levels who are you know pretty serious [TS]

02:04:01 ◼   ► about their photography I mean sure is definitely serious about photography I [TS]

02:04:04 ◼   ► mean I know that for a fact league as a hobby [TS]

02:04:06 ◼   ► you know it's like he's got a two or three things in his Twitter bio psych [TS]

02:04:11 ◼   ► Apple two cars cars sports in photography or something like that it's [TS]

02:04:17 ◼   ► interesting that the iPhone has a camera though you know when you first had [TS]

02:04:21 ◼   ► pictures on the iPhone definitely a point and shoot was a better camera and [TS]

02:04:26 ◼   ► now that's not the case anymore and I've got a mirrorless DSLR you know it's it's [TS]

02:04:32 ◼   ► not a super nice one but it's nice and it takes better pictures at which point [TS]

02:04:37 ◼   ► the Olympus PL five and about that [TS]

02:04:41 ◼   ► twenty-millimeter pancake lens with it and it's a 1.70 belief and that's all I [TS]

02:04:47 ◼   ► ever use I just use that pancake lens it's great but I'm getting to the point [TS]

02:04:51 ◼   ► where I don't even use that 20 on that is in thirty five-millimeter equivalence [TS]

02:04:57 ◼   ► is probably eat like forty ok yeah yeah yeah it's pretty tight but the but you [TS]

02:05:06 ◼   ► know just a 1.7 is great you know you get a nice blurred background of the [TS]

02:05:10 ◼   ► classical and like if you know later held cool advice on how do you learn to [TS]

02:05:14 ◼   ► be a photographer's you get a fifty millimeter prime and put it on your [TS]

02:05:17 ◼   ► camera and don't pretend like it doesn't come off [TS]

02:05:20 ◼   ► yeah i hadn t 50 ahead on my old can can t buy 80 bucks growth market has a $90 [TS]

02:05:29 ◼   ► new from cannon and you can get the Japanese version that doesn't have the [TS]

02:05:33 ◼   ► you s warranty for 80 which is what everybody I got the friend of mine had [TS]

02:05:38 ◼   ► one point four was $300 but he sold to me used I got it cheap and I'm in Orange [TS]

02:05:45 ◼   ► County cannons national repair facilities in early and like it's like [TS]

02:05:51 ◼   ► 80 bucks and I'll fix the lens and I had like that but once broke like two or [TS]

02:05:55 ◼   ► three times because every time I let's seize the camera they would start [TS]

02:05:57 ◼   ► cranking out like it was a zoom and just do something to it but I get her to [TS]

02:06:03 ◼   ► carry that big ones I got the Olympus and now I'm going to the point where I [TS]

02:06:07 ◼   ► must use this phone exclusively @ this not because I mean that the pictures are [TS]

02:06:11 ◼   ► close enough for most things and having the geodata and everything there and [TS]

02:06:16 ◼   ► having it already in my library the moment I take it to me are becoming so [TS]

02:06:20 ◼   ► convinced that it's taking over for me is that it's my keep my my photos have [TS]

02:06:26 ◼   ► always been our lease in the iPhone world post I've only had two two [TS]

02:06:32 ◼   ► collections of photos the photos I took with my regular cameras which used to be [TS]

02:06:38 ◼   ► an iPhoto years ago for the last ten years have been in Lightroom and then my [TS]

02:06:42 ◼   ► iPhone photos which have been on live and I never bothered to put my iPhone [TS]

02:06:49 ◼   ► photos into Lightroom because just didn't seem doesn't seem worth while and [TS]

02:06:55 ◼   ► I didn't want to buy all wanted to keep on the phone and now in the new world [TS]

02:06:58 ◼   ► they're both it goes both ways I not only have my iPhone photos on my Mac but [TS]

02:07:03 ◼   ► I have any photos that I took you know that I take with a regular camera just [TS]

02:07:07 ◼   ► magically show up on my phone [TS]

02:07:09 ◼   ► well it seems like they've solved a big problem for me and I don't feel like [TS]