118: ‘Sloppy on the Side’, With Guest Adam Lisagor
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boy they do it you have no idea how long you been how I've been looking forward
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to this is a weird said I'm not sure I play it cool now I don't think it's only
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gets weird if anything I feel like one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you
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want to talk to you about this ever since we were in Montreal last year we
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both talk to each other and to be in super excited about the watch is that I
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feel like too many other people are playing it cool and they they're trying
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to resume yeah and it's and that's totally cool like to you know I think
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just being completely honest there's a whole lot of things to complain about
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too but I feel like I don't like not being excited about it was the fun in
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that yellow knows he's got I mean you gotta treat this like Christmas when I
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was probably seven years old I got it
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a transformer watch wristwatch that was a transformer for Hanukkah and I cried
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tears of joy tears of joy tears of transformer hannukah joy and I think
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that I there's a reason I shouldn't have the same reaction as opposed as opposed
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to the kid across the street who gotta go but watch and cried because they want
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more resembles the go bots
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go back to the original Samsung
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so you you know you reminded me that I used to be a watch guy I haven't reached
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so long but when I was a kid my grandfather was an accountant in one of
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his clients was a i think a reseller of Casio watches and so every like once a
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year he would hand me down the latest you know like the last year's version of
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a databank or whatever it was you know that was just you know I think that was
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like just early gadget guard gadget and like you said you know last year last
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you know your last episode with malt see you were talking about how inscrutable
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those interfaces where and how you basically had to memorize like the
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equivalent of you know any s yeah Contract Code yeah just in order to
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really get to know you know timer mode or something like that was a trip triple
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click the lower right button to get into the mode where you can set the alarm
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yeah which looked exactly like the mode for setting the time except that there
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was a little tiny but my good name that would flash that meant hey this is the
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alarm and then you would just have to know that you were saying the time for
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your alarm and not changing the time on the once he got there it felt so good
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yeah one of the things a little thing and I know that I think I feel like the
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two main points of like the big question marks is does it should anybody be
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excited about Apple watch in general as a good thing they might want to win the
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rest and then there's a whole other angle where I know that as time goes on
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to say things and I keep saying on Twitter when people you know people like
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to complain on Twitter on a few more notice that then they'll say like you
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mean you know and you say like this is really cool thing you can do it this is
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a nice part of wearing the watch every day and
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they say you mean exactly like every other smart watch on the market for the
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last two years
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ok yeah you know maybe they did you know you could give some points to some of
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these other guys free shipping first i mean but it doesn't take away that it's
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a nice part of the experience on the resume and one of those things when
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those little things that you never have to set the time on the watch yet once
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you've paired it with your phone it always just gets the time yeah that's
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that's that's one of those things it's completely invisible I did not have not
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once thought about that fact except it's just the time you take it for granted
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because clock set themselves now that's what clubs do right and i was thinkin
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bout with the context of those old digital watches I wrote about from my
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teenage years where I can even remember whether some of them and I guess I just
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went through them every couple years back then they weren't THAT expensive by
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the eighties like in the seventies did you watch is really expensive and by the
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eighties they were you know get an 8th grade son without thinking about it but
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i i think that I had some that that you could set the month even though it
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didn't show it like on the face because it was too much detail but then at least
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that way when late April 30th rolls around and goes to me first it doesn't
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tell you that it's the 31st I think but it was like you had to adjust was
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another thing you had to set the like of the bad right when you did change the
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battery and had to start over from scratch you had a set so many different
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fields the hour the date the time the day of the week
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you know what I but I think at that point technology we didn't we didn't I i
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dont know I this I might be wrong about this we weren't thinking for an advance
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to we wanted our gadgets to know how to do things themselves I don't think that
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I was an expectation was almost like now of course like a manual transmission you
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want that control you want like to take out of the box
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unfold the like 18 fold mostly Japanese instructions and then figure out what is
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the is the code you need to get to to to to get to you know world time or
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something like that
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yeah I wasn't even complaining about it and I didn't complain about it when I
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did it I thought it was a cool features like a this is great this way when you
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know a short month rolls around I won't have to worry about it I'll go through
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the house on now of setting everything so that I don't have to do it again
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yeah so are people asking you i mean obvious people in this people online
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obviously but people in the world are they seeing your watch and saying hey
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what do you think that yeah totally I i I'm about I haven't kept her exact count
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but if I had to guess I would guess that I'm 23 out of 25 for when I use Apple
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pay Whole Foods and that's about right
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it's been a little bit over a month and I go there just about every day I say
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about 23 out of 25 times the cashier has commented on it even though I'm
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definitely trying to do it as soon as possible
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good I'm trying and I can play a game where I'm trying not to be noticed using
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the watch to Apple pay and yet they inevitably notice and out of the the two
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times that they didn't the one time it was a cashier who had had before and she
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was just kind of gave me though you're the guy already has the Apple watching
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and it was one time where cashier didn't didn't make note of it he batted her
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eyelashes and moved on she was clearly impressed with your promise I used it
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used apple pear this morning for the first time because I you know I've been
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preparing to be on on on your show and I wanted to do everything I could possibly
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do like exercise just so I knew that you know got the well-rounded experience
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this morning I used Apple pay with the watching my go-to for Apple pay because
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I never remember where it's going to be is a go to McDonalds McDonalds I got my
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way to a McMuffin used to watch couldn't be easier
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cashier could get did not give a shit
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I paid you know I guess it worked like it was supposed to I took myself out to
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the parking lot 8 it in the parking lot and went to work and I feel prepared
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like I said I have no extra commentary on that experience except that it worked
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exactly like its post to end it makes you feel like I've gotta I've got a
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currency device on my on my wrist that's the thing is that I'm noticing is is
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just how all-encompassing it is as a device I feel like what they've done is
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they've just prepare all of the pieces of kind of culminated in this thing that
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you now strap yourselves yeah and I i can kind of see how this might be where
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you're going to but I can kind of see how they've already laid like the
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groundwork for like that but watch from five years from now like now he's just
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not even just like to point out from next year but I'm thinking like a lot
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further down the road where all of the things that it doesn't have like it
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doesn't dude cellular networking on its own and it doesn't have its own storage
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where you can keep all of your videos and stuff like that I get to see where
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this would have it all and then you would you know you could like have like
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a cloud then I was I was definitely that's where I wanted to get this
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conversation to mostly because like you know just in a purely as a response to
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people who are basically just like being negative Nellies about where it is now
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without the presence of mind to remember what I have the iPhone version one is
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what was what it was and what it was like what was missing and and how it
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iterated and how you know in the in the previous in the next eight years ago to
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this incredible all encompassing tool that almost kind of feels like it's
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fully matured and the people don't necessarily step back outside of
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themselves and say ok this is what this device is now I wonder
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what it's gonna be five years from now he said you know I have tried to
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remember some of the stuff that wasn't in iPhone 1.0 I know there was no
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notifications like see you couldn't slide down from the top to see any kind
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of notifications and there was no control center from the bottom it was
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really just the home screen of apps and it was one home screen because there
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were no other apps and you just hit the home button to go to the home screen and
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hit a nap to go to a nap and like that was the scope of the whole system during
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their nap and if you're in and out the app had the whole screen and otherwise
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you're on the home screen and then you would use that to launch an app and I
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was a part of the brilliance of the designers how simple that what's
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absolutely and almost had to be constrained in order to teach us what
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the thing was so we could get like sort of acclimated to the language and then
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and then they could start to grow it out and i won so so then I wonder how you
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extend that to the watch and what its there are things about the you are right
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now that I don't get naturally and I don't mean the kind of annoying me you
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know like that the home screen of apps it's fun to play with but I don't
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necessarily feel like it's perfectly natural
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yeah now and I'm all I still even a month in a tide tapped the wrong up
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right yeah that's kept up targets are a weird they're not a time maybe they're a
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little too small but they're definitely too close to each other that's the big
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the bigger problem isn't necessarily the size I did this with multi with Joanna
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stern actually took out a ruler and measured and they are quarter of an inch
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which is like the minimum and you know it's just basically the minimum size for
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a top target but the problem is they're right next to each other whereas like on
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the iPhone when you have like quarter-inch top targets you still put
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some space in between them right in when you get it right it feels like magic
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right foot that but unless it happens all the time that you get it right is
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not real magic is just the illusion of magic
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I feel like
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one of the things that I realized as I use overcast a lot that's probably the
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most Rica we used up on the watch and overcast just would by default when the
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win all my apps came over when I sent with the watch overcast ended up to the
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right side the very edge to the very right edge and I realize oh that's an
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easier top target I don't know if it's I don't know if it's mentally or
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physically now that make sense of it is sort of like it's as law right where the
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comment the menu bar in america is easier to click on because you can you
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can just slide your our Oh all the way the show and you can't go too far this
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summer I think there's a similar usability advantage to being at the edge
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of that app cloud because you can you you can get sloppy on the side you know
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I mean yeah and I guess that was the story of my college years as well sloppy
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cock in the middle that's what they called right so I guess it doesn't work
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in the design work in theory and in practice that the clock being in the
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middle makes it and he's your tap target then you just kind of get a bull's-eye I
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don't know cause I almost never go back to the clock like oh really yeah I just
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assume that and to me it's it's like the most under-reported thing and I think
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people just sort of get it but it's like to me that thing you have to get over
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with is in this thinking that it don't treat it like a little iPhone on your
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wrist and in the iPhone whatever you were last doing when you are not derived
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from there it is again when you come back with the watch just when you're
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done with whatever maybe you wanted to change to a new podcast cause you're
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using overcast and then when you switch and you cue it up and you now you've got
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the new episode of what everyone listened to playing in your ear but then
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you just put your risk down and you're done
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and next time you wanna go to your watch it's just right back on the watch face
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like you never have to clean up as soon as you're done doing what it is that you
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did on your watch just put your risk down and trust that at all it'll come
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back to the watch face on it makes else do you have what are things that you've
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experienced having done so I remember the first iPhone came out I had these
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moments all the time of love like oh I just did something like I just got a
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link in an email click the link and opened up in Mobile Safari watched a
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video and I closed it and I thought I could never have done that before you
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know six months ago
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you know I just did something that I type this technology enables that I
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could never have done before it existed and i feel like im having sort of
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similar things like just those those realizations of with the watch of all
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this is why this exists this is one of those little vignettes that they put
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their commercials yeah I think you know I know that there are other smart
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watches or do you want to call them that get text messages you know transfer data
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between your phone and watch all realize it isn't necessarily exclusive nappa
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watch but I've tried it I have the pebble and I've wanted the public and
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it's it's a little different number one that watches pretty reliable I i find
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the Bluetooth connection to be really good and what people it was always
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flaking out which probably isn't pebbles fall is probably the limits of
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third-party apps vs a bald getting to have you know tightest possible
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integration at the OS level on both the watch and the phone but it pretty call
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when I do all the grocery shopping at Whole Foods and I'm walking around and I
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feel my wrist go and Amy says can you get OJ too and then I don't even let you
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know I don't know it just just you know you don't have to go in your pocket yeah
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sorry made plans brokers now that's ok let me take a time out here it's just
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real quick as you let you know that if I start sounding like a terrible robot or
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something
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right away because it's not escape but but I had but I episode episode of you
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we should what I should do of course is just as soon as we're done recording on
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Amazon and buy a new microphone and instead I started show and then realize
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halfway through that I should have told the gas hey if I start sounding bad way
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don't just don't be polite and that means money audio recording his bed 20
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that sucks like you've blown yeah it was like the last half hour of the episode
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with serenity Caldwell and so I recreated my audio I listen to him and
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did it again and I think it came out pretty good I think it actually made me
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at like I tighten up a lot of my arguments that's that the French
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colonists Breidis kDa so you could basically just go back in retroactive Li
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se smarter things exactly that's perfect that's exactly what it was like ok I'm
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gonna do that after we recorded it but it was the biggest baby as long as I'm
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sure you can well imagine what it's like to to have to redouble and the crosstalk
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was just you know but so which wet what watching you we're okay so what I
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Genesis or any of the bands and it still has not shipped I don't believe that one
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of such a watch ya know it's weird to feel the privilege of a delayed shipment
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regular steel link bracelet for five weeks sounds so yeah that's the one
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that's the review in the preamble people have asked I guess I should answer is
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something I mean I never liked use them as my own although I guess I kind of AM
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with the watch comes to wearing it but it's my dad is well that's their fault
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that the one I would just keep wearing it but I think that you know they would
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even rather have me still wearing it being able to write about it then you
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know what what does the Watchmen to them for me to send it back but anyway I'll
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have this watch until mine comes in the package back up and send it back to him
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well it's great it's a loner just like your insurance company so my insurance
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company is is Roxanne is watch which I ordered her shortly after mine and
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sport band and as soon as it came I just said this is my name and what he's going
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to do and she doesn't honestly she's she's very sweet and she did she is not
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important or until I get my and also I wanted to just like I want it was so
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important to me that I get to spend time with it you know get to know it will be
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better in an intimate level so that I could start
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you know what say let's say conceivably this is what I do for a living I guess
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so it's important to me that I know what their watches like in all seriousness it
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is absolutely not inconceivable that you guys will be writing directing and
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experience is a watch extension totally I can't wait for it to happen we haven't
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done it yet but now week and it's you know I dunno but you have to use it to
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yeah so I've got the 38 watch face on and it's a little small for me it's all
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tiny and not because it looks tiny ordained to you look like you were
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saying it looks fine but I want a bigger screen I think she had like a bigger
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is like nearly a temper so it's a little bit more than a 10 percent increase oh
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yeah but it's somehow my guess is with you going from 38 to 42 when your shows
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up you're gonna be like you can have like 15 minutes for your little worried
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you think this might be too big and then like but then like 20 minutes later
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you're like this is right
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which brings me to a strange phenomenon which is one of those first you know
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just kind of like startling realization that I had having spent very minimal
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time with the watch it is like and I am talking about maybe ten fifteen minutes
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of having to watch on my hand out story appeared in this kitten but the phone
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back in my pocket the next opportunity I had to take the fun out its joint screen
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like to do you have that experience to phone came out you like wow this is like
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a flat screen that I was to go to a pocket yeah a little bit especially if
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you're trying to end and I know it's it
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I don't think you're supposed to be dictating text on a watch but it's
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definitely works for texting and I think that you know that the Serie
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transcription is really really good
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including winner out on cellular yeah it's great I i dont i dont I haven't
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used it a whole lot I mean I have used a little bit but you know there's a whole
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kind of social social acceptability of dictating into your watch in public or
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dictating into your phone even like if you're at the market
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you don't want to talk to your fingers you sound like a dick right grab I feel
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like that's the case do you like if you get a thing on your watch if you get a
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text on your watch from ami tomar a year at Whole Foods and you're not the only
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one in the I'll do you like a responder do you do like an emoticon even though
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an emoji even though emojis are for children i'm kind of I'm a little
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self-conscious about it but I tried to I just try to start walking in the
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direction away from other customers and try to keep my voice down cut my hand
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but I do I cut my hands around the watch but I realized that it does kind of make
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you look transporation was like going off and whispering into your own like
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cause I think I'm self conscious about is I don't want to be loud talking into
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it like I'll only do it in a way that it seems as though strangers are going to
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hear what it is that I'm dictating even though the if they looked at me and gave
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to the second thought about it they'd realize I must be talking to some kind
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of gadget but as always they can't really hear me and I'm not intruding on
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their conversations and I don't mind and I feel like the way the future and the
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future and God bless you for being polite and considerate about it and
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especially thinking about how many people probably out there and in the
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world wouldn't be and also like to think about how far we've come that used to be
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like people talking to their Bluetooth earpiece or whatever that word yeah and
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I also think that it's you know and it just became acceptable and it's just
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can't go anywhere in the western world without seeing it but at first 10 years
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typing into it
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3 interface with all of their attention on it like gave just was a weird thing
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to be doing in public is sitting there picking away and electronic device like
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you know like an eight year old Gameboy but yeah but you know it's everywhere
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right now it's something we do and hopefully that the ideas that just like
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it is in that movie her where you see people on the subway and everybody's
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whispering softly into their peace or whatever that that just becomes a way of
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life and and nobody thinks twice about it I think it's hopefully it's gonna
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happen and hopefully it doesn't create a cacophony of other environmental
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pollution did you like her
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yeah I love that I loved it I i luv ya is it hit me deeply on an emotional
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level but also it's just fun for future thinking people hold at least come back
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to that I mean to me take a break and thank her for sponsoring it will come
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back and talk about her cuz I do think I think the watch is a step in that
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direction it's a brand new sponsor really proud of these guys on board
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rails tutorial Ruby on Rails tutorial by michael Hart all so if you dabbled a
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about resources on learning web development you'll probably hear about
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teaches you how to develop web applications surprise surprise but with
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you want to learn how to make great weapons so her I thought it it's so i i
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think it's gonna hold up really well I like the movie and I think even where
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twenty years from now when we're past the point they're projecting to
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technologically and so there's obviously they're gonna made some mistakes I think
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it's gonna look pretty good in hindsight sort of like the way 2001 seems great
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sure or even nor Blade Runner
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yeah actions are also weighted toward that era weighted toward the early
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eighties with shoulder pads and angles and what not just like the high-waisted
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pants in her kind of weighted toward 21 2013 and 2014 I think it'll hold up in a
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sort of the emblematic of those of our version of futurism yeah and I feel like
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I actually think that they got right and that Apple is clearly moving towards is
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that your gadget still totally matters as much as ever but your identity and
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your treatment they're all just run tends to cloud-based system you know and
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you just pick the size that you want at this moment right and then and what they
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so much so reliant on on voice and sound which was an interesting way to go and I
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don't know how how far we're gonna go in that direction especially with like with
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and communicate back I thought it was it was interesting and also a lake
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visuals they allowed the human elements to take more of a fun see ya and I feel
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like it's like the touch components on the watch play into that to where it's
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not about what you're looking at its you know some other sense and I dunno man
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and I will hurt a lot of the UN and cinematic Senate cinematically it has to
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be kept in touch with the display outputs that we have at the moment
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although I guess you can imagine some kind of game that ties into like an
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apple watching like rumbles on your wrist at certain points in a movie like
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the way that are so maybe something like that is coming out I think about it off
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the top of my head but it just had to be verbal because it that makes for
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sentiment and let Scarlett Johansson you know truly and the best local interface
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in the world like her voice was just like representative of what technology I
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should say really well being a creepy perv about it like you know what I would
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want my robot to so yeah but did to me that was the interaction that the
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characters had with the technology was so I'm being and you know you don't have
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building in something some kind of notification becoming you don't break
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stride and that to me is what the touch on the wrist helps to enable as he just
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sits there is can I am really feeling like you know what do you feel like you
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how's the house the tactic engine holding up three you enjoy it I do I
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enjoyed a lot and like more and more as time goes on I have got my watch the
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sound off all the time I never it's some of the sounds are too annoying and I
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find that they're not necessary I haven't really learned to distinguish
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between what the different sounds and different
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patterns and everything mean I think University they just mean hey look over
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feeling too like just have a small little my new top even happens whatever
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10 times in an hour or something or even yeah because something's going up like
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some group chat Iran has blown up and he's getting messages you know roger
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messages from college or something like that right I mean if you're doing
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something else important like recording a podcast and your wrist is blowing up
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and that's maybe not as not quite not quite as fun but I for the first few
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days after I had was wearing the watch I was I found myself wanting more tips
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know exactly how the hell to get to where I'm going
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directions I'm going to the same account for years and years or so I know how to
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get there but I wanted to try the directions but it was actually kind of
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drive everyday so it's a little science fiction to me is westbound out of
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taps were but it was enough that I just felt something and you could just glad
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to arrest and you know it would say 600 feet make a left and it was great I
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thought oh yeah and that the display that the way you actually see on the
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wrist is so minimal that it doesn't get in the way you can answer interpreted a
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glance because you driving and most of the experiences all audio and you know I
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so many ways but the audio quality sounds like it's coming through the
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telephone rather than you know like a built-in library of an internal
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true except ways sounds like garbage and Apple maps sounds amazing so to go back
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and get directions from the watch sounds amazing and feels amazing and it's like
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oh yeah it's against what we should name one of those moments where like this is
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the future just feels like the future and in even the pile on that I had last
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week I had made it a dinner reservation using open table so I could meet
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somebody after work and I get in the car and then opened table gives me an alert
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on my wrists because they have a watch watch out using a lot on my wrist that
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I've got my generation in like 10 minutes or something and then I tap into
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the on the wrist in go to the local location and it opens at the map says
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give me directions like holy cow I didn't expect her to do that in asked
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her to do that but that's what this is that's what watch does in 2015 yeah I
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one of my first experiences like that was with again I want to repeat myself
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but I think I said this but it was on the Amtrak train and I had already saved
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the pass to my passbook on the phone and it just when I got to Penn Station it
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just appeared on my watch and then when we got on train the guy came by to fish
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anything out to notice which I just held my wrist up to the guy is candid and run
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a trend it's also may feel sync between the watch and the phone is just really
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highly tuned I haven't felt that lacking in any way and and that's kind of
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enjoyable to watch when you see different sync service is between your
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devices current fail that more points along the way do you think it was a
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mistake for Apple to already have apps like I and it's absolutely true in some
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cases where
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the basic problem when they get when they announced to the watch get back in
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November and said they were going to ship this couple weeks away before the
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watch comes out I just made it sound like a bad idea because you're asking
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people to write software even if it's a limited SDK and it really is limited but
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you're asking them to write software for a device that they've never used and so
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they're not really know they're not really familiar with how they're
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supposed to use it and I think it's definitely true that some apps really
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really suffer from that to the yeah I have a number of them on on my watch
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that really suffered from that now do you think he know anecdotally or
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otherwise whether any developers were given early access to watch specifically
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for making their routes better I think he have to define layers of access I
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don't think anybody got a watch I think some people clearly got access i mean
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obviously a lot of people got the developer lab invitations and I think in
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the middle
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there's a beach level there's a smaller number of developers who got early
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access to I think to the labs not not that they got to take a watch and where
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it but that they got to you know plan to Cupertino and write stuff yeah but on
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the other hand so I think well I just think that for example though I would
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assume twitter is on that list of companies that had really privileged
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access and I think that their app is useless but on that and then on the
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other hand Marcos app is incredible and yeah I have no idea how he was kind of
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figured out what use your patterns would make the most sense without having the
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devices have to accept that like I'm never wondering when i from the very
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first time I watched overcast on the watch I never wondered how anything
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works it was exactly what was supposed to be yeah I feel I know he was worried
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about mmm because I actually helped him beta test then before
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he shipped it just sucks that he had the review in it and and I get to know you
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better couldn't help much because he was getting ready to ship at least a little
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bit of sanity checking his big concern or one of his concerns was that there
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wouldn't be any point to it because there's that now plane which it would
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work with anything and that his was well what's the point of even doing it at all
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if now playing
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handles everything and I said no idea is definitely usefulness in just one day of
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testing overcast and watch it was absolutely useful because you know
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there's no way with now playing to do anything really other than this plan
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pause where is overcast on the watch you can switch to a new podcast and stuff
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like that
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yeah I mean it's got context where has it knows what which is hugely important
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for a podcast library where people kind of listen to every thing differently and
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that's pretty awesome and I you know the now playing up is there but I don't know
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exactly what it does and I don't know what to control what a high Jackson what
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it doesn't hijack and I'd rather just leave it leave it alone I which there
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was you know it's just one of those Apple apps that you just can't put in a
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drawer somewhere and I kind of feel like as a pundit overall that its and I it's
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the sort of thing that I try to be cognizant of what I know that I'm being
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guilty is it's like Apple can't win because if they didn't have any apps I
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would be complaining that there should be a priority and now that they've
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shipped with tabs on day 1 I'm complaining because the haps some of
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them don't work so well and some of them don't seem to have been designed with
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the context in mind
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yeah i cant wait till slacks gets good because I used black almost more than
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anything besides email and I and i cant figure out how to actually respond to
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reply to slack and if you just open up slack slack walked watch out you get
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your presented with two icons one of which is I think direct messages in one
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of which is is mentions of your name and neither one seems to be graded tracking
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like what conversations actually need access to
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and then if you get an alert in slack which I always do there's no all you can
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do it on the watches dismiss it right away you can actually reply from that
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from that alert which I had to do because that's it means like it's all
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about to a communications not broadcasting by guest
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well in the same way that you can respond to text messages right at the
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fact that you can respond to text messages and dictate a little weird
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thing is what you would want to do is slack absolutely and wood which brings
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me to make which is like how forgiving we now can sort of letters let ourselves
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be like dictating to call it's eerie when I do i dooo I call it I just cant
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talk yes so when you're dictating to Siri even if like responding to a
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message you know her like you can choose like sent from iphone signature with
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with Mel with him from from the mail and the idea behind that was theoretically
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it was probably just so that you can see like the other person receiving cut you
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a little slack for reasons of brevity or typos or whatever I feel like dictated
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by Siri kind of needs its own little and I by the way I turn sent from my iPhone
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off because i will like alright a second novel in an email from my phone it just
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like one of my i play my email on my phone like beethoven and they can I take
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pride in that
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with its Alex and proper levels and everything and so it would shame me to
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tell some to tell somebody trying to make an excuse you would wanna yeah I
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wouldn't want to do that but but then again if you're trying to if you try to
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respond to messages dictating India watch in the beach and then go on with
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your business you're not gonna sit there getting frustrated because she misheard
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something and maybe it's clear enough so you know maybe maybe it's it's like
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enough to get the point I had a couple of misfires with badly dictated
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messages to replace the text but this is kind of fun I it's partly because it
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there's like a tipping point I realized where as as Siri dictation has crossed
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some point on the curve between 22 slow inaccurate to be useful and it's reached
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a tipping point now where it's quick enough and accurate enough to be useful
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and I you know if this is happening for me sometime in the last year you know
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what I wrote a piece about how is so much better on my iPhone couple months
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ago like I think it a large part then wrapping this up for the watch but as it
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reaches that tipping point suddenly you trust a lot more whereas in the first
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couple years where Syria existed they had this dictation I would double check
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every time before I hit Send and now I a lot of times I am hitting send without
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really looking at it and sometimes they are there some pretty bad typos yeah I
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accidentally take texted to Rock Center the other day she said hey can you stop
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by the store on the way home and I think I did I responded i dictated on the way
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home or do you want me to come home first and then I like i dictated that
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and then I went on with what I was doing what got sent was do you want me to come
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home you want to stop on the way home or do you want me to come home first I
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can't even and she was like what did you just say what's with the attitude does
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that cause it's like if it's like caddie it's like a bitch in the wrong way
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yeah usually if it's if it's good meaning like it's not gonna be obvious
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to your recipient it's gonna look like a homonym
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you know like if they read it out loud in their head that they'll take a guess
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actually kind of like that late with a mere
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other friends you know there were more technically inclined you know it's less
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faces mostly texting I like it when they can guess and they had their like Siri
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or vice versa I'll do it to them and try to guess whether the weird typo in the
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message they sent me was because I feel like it's becoming a scale where is that
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I can't even if he doesn't sound like that it sounds exactly like really does
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sounds intentional series is manufactured some attitude like it I
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can't believe you and even asked me to do that what do you think of the fact
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that Siri doesn't talk back to you question it somehow feels natural to me
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although I do feel like a lot of her personality is missing because of that
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but it somehow seems right to me true but maybe we'd we like we know that
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personality so well already that's ingrained that we can come out here
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voice maybe like you get it took me a couple days to realize it oh she's not
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talking there's no she's not talking through the speaker when when I asked
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her something she just just coming out in text but they are you can hear ya I
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guess that's why I was a little slow the answer is because it was the fact that
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she doesn't talk or depending on your country and your preferences he doesn't
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talk it sneaks up on you watching you realize only after you really has been
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using serial out that it that it never talks to you I gotta like it I guess
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it's a little bit more private yeah I I had this thought that the watch is kind
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of maybe the watch is what crack serial open more than much more than any other
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anything else that the watches kind of one of the of the of the many things
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that the watch is watches like a Syrian machine basically yeah I think a large
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part of it I think if you're not using Siri
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a couple of times a day they are not really getting the most out of the watch
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I really do think that's true African microphone in its I think that's one
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thing that's a lot of people aren't really thinking about it you're wearing
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something when you're on your wrist has a microphone it that you can just talk
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to when it can record your thoughts on which makes it even more frustrating to
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me there's not a voice recorder up on it that's a little weird let's hold that
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daring fireballs you see when you go there so what we're talking about with
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the no voice recorder app was doing I said yeah and there's no no tap no voice
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recorder app I mean you don't even need both of those just need one of the other
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guys you could I don't I know you mean okaz the whole idea is you just have a
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thought in your head you want to commit to the watch and dictaphone you want to
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put it down so why not like I do that all time do you did i do my number one
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use case for voice recorder out on the song is what I've done working with the
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composer and I don't like having you know any day like are often like singing
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thing if I'm trying to express it and can't put it in words all singing thing
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and then I'll send it off as an audio thing or maybe sometimes we recorded
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voiceover with the voiceover up every once in awhile i guess im driving and I
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have a thought and i wanna recorded so I don't forget it then that's the third
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case I would tell me
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there's nothing like that on the watch is unconscionable unconscionable gather
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clothes targeting covered be like at least with the built-in apps would be
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like texting yourself I guess but even then that seems to seems a little weird
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and are definitely third party apps evernote has a pretty decent nap I
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forget what also try and you know and it seems like it's fairly focus on the
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white specific thing I think if if if if and when the day comes that there's a
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Vesper thing for the phone really just be a big plus button and make a new know
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that just hit + start talking there's the text and then you done this is
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really all I really want some great I wonder if you could see you Syrian just
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say syria making you know I wonder what she would do she know how to work with
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reminders that any notes out but it still confuses me what syria works with
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what she doesn't yeah I'm not sure I'll think that would work on the watch I'm
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not sure what happens
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versus the phone you know it's a funny thing went on a podcast if you use the
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phrase hey and then the name of the product it will end up getting notes
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from people whose devices while they were listening to the show started going
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I'm not saying we can't say it cause it's hard to talk about it without
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saying a serious but it turns out that it turns out that people who like listen
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obviously if you listen with headphones on but mostly listen to podcast and is
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it doesn't but if you know a lot of a lot of people like my pal Brent Simmons
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he just likes to listen to podcasts on the speaker's desk while he works
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you know it's like he said like haven't talked to you know the way you know
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other people like that talk radio on these likes a podcast makes its elegance
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in office for friends or whatever but then it makes like you're charging
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iPhone wake up that's awesome
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so I mean that's dangerous also once when Siri becomes more more more more
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aware of the operating of being the insides of the phone rather than just
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referring to the outside but it puts great power in front of us because we
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could do something like say the phrase that would initiate that and then
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immediately say text my wife I'm leaving you send that's dark I was just thinking
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like a Syrian make a part so it's probably a little better what what what
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are your favorite apps I I totally love the weather out I think the weather app
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has won it took me a while to get used to end this is one of those apps this is
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the built-in weather app from Apple and it's one of those apps where it's to me
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surprisingly deep
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it starts with all the city's you've configured on your iPhone leather app so
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it already knows the city's eagerness today and you can scroll down to get
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details and 10 day forecast and all this stuff you go side to side to switch
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cities and locations but then while you're on a city you can tap it and it
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changes from like the next like a clock style its into me that optimized for the
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white to take the next 10 hours of like precipitation
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cloud cover and the temperature my only complaint is I kind of wish that they
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combined the cloud cover and temperature ones as I want the temperature and the
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you know whether or not it's like likely to rain the weather a lot I guess you'd
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have to yeah we don't live in Southern California I don't I never ever open up
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whether out but I'm just looking through it as you're talking in yet is really
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nicely done
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yea well and you know April April probably a good time to have been trying
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because april is the type of month where the weather is you have no idea and just
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because it's
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really cold in the morning when you wake up it might go up to 70 in the afternoon
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so it's just knowing like looking at the temperature right now
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10 in the morning doesn't necessarily give you a clue as to what it's gonna be
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like an african it is so I think the weather app was probably when I first
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put on the watch and it is loading the cities and I saw that status I think
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that's probably the first time I saw like oh and apt takes time it's not it's
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not instantaneous like on your iPhone yeah but sometimes it doesn't i still
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can't quite figure out why sometimes it takes longer than others and maybe it's
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because I'm not quite sure how much of it is to blame on Bluetooth and how much
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of it is like that phone is checking the weather in advance already and already
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has up-to-date weather information and then other times maybe the watch is like
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you know hey phone tell me about the weather this guy wants to see the
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weather and the phone as I go should I haven't checked in awhile you gotta wait
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hold on
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yeah it makes sense that they get smarter about catching that stuffs and
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and smarter about just collecting the data when you need it and maybe
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collecting all too much to me that's kind of like the you know how like
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scrolling on the iPhone one wasn't quite as classy as it is now maybe that's a
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kind of a sort of an analog to like waiting for data to load on the watch
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what about you what are your favorite apps like I can said overcast is
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probably again I use it a lot
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remote is really cool me up then again I've always been a I've always liked the
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remote app on the iPhone 3G and it was I never did for when when people would
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complain endlessly about it yeah it takes forever to connect but I think its
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prime still one of those people that just kind of still impressed by the fact
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that I can control my something on my TV with my phone and it just never doesn't
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faze me so now the fact that I can do that a little bit quicker and the
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pairing like service seems to last longer I think you know before getting
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dumped and I have to
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then reconnect I just think it's it's pretty cool I I find that I have always
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i mean i i just lose the stupid Apple TV remote I lose it ten times every time I
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watch a movie and then lose its meaning like plague is it on my left hand side
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of the couch right hand side
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15 minutes and all I wanted to do was quick pause because you know he's asking
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me a question from upstairs in the kitchen or something that just just want
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to pause the damn thing I really like having it on the wrist and hand and it's
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one of those things where I feel like you kind of have to take what people
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that Apple say at their word like when Tim Cook has said what he likes about
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wearing the Apple watching he's you know I've heard him say like three or four
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times that he likes using it as a remote control to control is Apple TV and as
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somebody who never liked the one on the phone cause I always found then it's
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like it's even worse because it's a device that's just a small and I can you
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know losing between two questions but then you know what are the odds that the
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current app is that is the remote it's not because I'm probably texting people
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are checking Twitter because I'm doing two things I want a Nevada double
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chapters with but the way that the thing works on the watch is if you're watching
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something actively watching it it just automatically goes back to being the
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remote not the clock face or anything like that which to me is exactly what I
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want it's as though the device read my schedule that a little tip we taped
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their their reach the remote sorry though Apple TV remote in her bedroom we
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taped it to like a little packet of Kleenex that's a lie flat but we do know
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that kids in bed with us playing with it and he'll drop it down there between the
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mattress and that so that's that's doing other than that
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activity trackers really cool heart rate monitor is really cool I I like the fact
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that so we worked with jaw bone up as a client we we did something with Syd bit
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had the experience of wearing these activity trackers but honestly its
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agents always felt too cumbersome for me to like keep something but like with me
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all the time that was dedicated to that purpose if I'm not gonna wear a watch
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that i dont really wanna wear a wristband that only does that one thing
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but now that I've got everything in that thing and the fact that it's an activity
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tracker now I'm finally getting the value of an activity tracker and so just
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earlier today if I can either take the elevator up to my office or take the
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stairs and i know that this stupid thing is gonna remind me that you know like I
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I have like 100 more calories to burn or something then I am I don't know why I
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guess I don't have as much free agency is I think I do but I'm gonna take the
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stairs because I'm a child and I want a little I wanna love trophy I thought it
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was silly when I saw people say that it would be somebody had a report by Wired
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magazine story like behind the scenes of creation of the watch probably was
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because they had the most access and that if it's become common within Apple
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like in the middle of a meeting for people to just stand up randomly because
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a widespread air wearing said hey you know you know there's a chance to get
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another hour where you stood for a minute and it's just like become part of
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the in and again you can within a bomb sure that people would just chuckle
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because they know why you're doing it and maybe you wouldn't do it if you were
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in a meeting with people from another company you know who aren't familiar but
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that within the walls of Apple this great seemingly crazy behavior has
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become a norm that you can just stand up for a minute and kind of move your legs
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in the middle of a meeting because you want to make it was happy when I am i
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expected to turn that off and I still have it on
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yeah it's kind of it's kind of fun its test completion and you gotta think that
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it happens coming that's more like a game almost like yo level of stupid
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simplicity we're like it just reminded send you a reminder to like complexes
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to pump you up to state yet I pump your fist no matter where you are and if you
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do it quicker you get more points or something and then just idiots are gonna
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pumping their fists all over the place I think that they did a really interesting
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amount of design on the activities like summaries and the stand reminders in
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terms of getting the balance right so that you keep using it and that it
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changes your behavior which is the goal but combine that with like obviously the
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team that made the watch has been you know using it in some degree internally
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for a while right
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a year maybe longer you know testing these prototypes probably longer than
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that you know the people in the design lab have been wearing the early
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prototypes to try to find in the software and if you like once they got
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into it for a very long time it would be easy to lose track I think this is how a
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lot of first-run experiences go wrong is that the team that makes it gets into it
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and gets it and understand it and loses track of what it would be like to have
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it on your risk for the first day and then you feel like I got this thing will
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not shut up about me standing and I feel like they dialed it back to a level
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where it's it's really well balanced between those two in terms of being
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frequent enough to change your behavior but not so frequent that you feel like
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we know why in the world with this thing be bugging me like this
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totally if you just i i think thats a cases it if you ignore it then it knows
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you're ignoring and instead of maybe instead of shutting itself off
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completely
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it just gives you less frequent and so it's kind of like on boards you and then
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instead of you saying this sucks I'm jumping off it does just very smart
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little things to keep you on and that's exactly what happened with me is is like
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first I found it cool that I found it annoying that I actually gave in and
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wanted to do what it told me i i and it has been a little bit of an eye-opener
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for me I've never won any of those trackers it's been a little bit of an
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eye-opener for me like
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that there's definitely some shockingly a correlation between a very productive
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day as a blogger and a very sedentary day like the day that I wrapped up the
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second sort of you that I published like a week ago it was like my circles when
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know where they finally got like on a chain like I finally got in a groove and
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I was in the zone and I felt like I had this article have been trying to get out
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for a long time out and and it's like when I finished it I looked down and it
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looked like look like my watch usually doesn't
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afternoon you should win an award for that there should be like and tired you
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know how they give it a few gotten some of those awards they give you like these
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I just got like this
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silver concentric circles and they should give you like a booby booby award
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you no further
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really screwed up right and i think is one of the things are so interesting
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about this watch is and I feel like it's one of the things that we just the first
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version of it the one that you and I are talking about right now just has not
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even tapped into it but the watch knows when you're wearing it it it soon as you
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take it off like to show somebody or to change the bandage over it knows its
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offer risk because the centers are off and it locks the screen and but that
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means that like if you are not going to wear all the time if you're going to
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wear it like your address watching you go out at night or something like that
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sometimes the watch knows when you're not being active because you're not
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wearing it and also knows when you're not being active even though you are
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wearing it which is a big difference right like if I just decide to wear my
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old watch for another day and I don't put the Apple watch on Friday I'm not
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gonna register any activity on the watch but the watch also knows that I haven't
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like a complete turned whereas if you are if you're wearing it I think that's
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so interesting and I i feel like it could really come into play in a lot of
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different ways that that's true but it but it also entice you to keep wearing
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yeah the moment you check your eyes to him sleep right yeah I totally
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underestimated that you know before I started wearing it is how much those
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fitness tracking things even as somebody who's not super into that those features
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but they still motivate me to keep wearing it not where my mother watches
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because I want to get the credit
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yeah I went for a run the other night and turned on the lake what is that it's
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not it's the at its the exercise that was not the activity trackers workout I
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yeah the workout act and I told her I was going for an outdoor run and I went
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I was running around for 24 minutes I got home he told me he's probably run
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for 30 minutes I went back out and ran for another six minutes I came back in I
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came back in the house I took the water off but it was still going is it was
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like I didn't set a goal just left left it as an open exercise and took off the
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watch and then like the bottom of the water was glowing green and frighten me
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and then I just like I researched it a little bit and found out that the green
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midst of a workout like you know and it's it's it pulls your heartbeat
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constantly as opposed to doing it every you know 67 minutes right which is weird
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to me because I give you if you you know you are liable sitting presumably if you
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go over to the heart rate monitor in your classes or whatever then it's gonna
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tell you like your heart rate was whatever three minutes ago but now its
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reading its taking any reading and that's why that's weird to me when I saw
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it was paying attention to my heart rate I didn't tell to do that but I think
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it's kind of awesome and so presumably there's like I got a whole days worth of
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data and if I were going through like medical stuff that would be kind of
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interesting to my doctor I think ya 69 beats per minute by minute ago and now I
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just took it again it says three so I don't come excited to get nervous I
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think I get nervous when I look at it and it makes my heart but it was 16 I
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was going to say what I was 95 cuz i guess i yeah that's why I'm cuz I'm
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excited and had a big lunch I think the workout app is an interesting to i like
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it and I like the way that it is like just brain dead super simple here's some
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big buttons for different types of workouts go pick the one you're gonna
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start right now tap the button and it go I wasn't sure what to do when I go for a
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run whether I should tell us how far I want to go how long I wanna go yeah they
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like the last item do either of the last item on the list was just open just
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measure how how much and do it in and call it to him I think I think there's
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an interesting combination here and again I haven't used to fit better in
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those things but I feel like one of the problems in never made me want to use
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one is that they didn't really show you anything you just you know least one
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game he has doesn't really have much of a display at just under four bars that
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led up and then you have to plug into your computer or sync it with the iPhone
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app and use a different device to check what it thinks you did
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whereas I feel like a lot of a lot of things with the phone to me are the key
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to their success is that the phone is both both sides of the equation and two
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examples are Instagram and like periscope meerkat
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where it's the same device that people are using to shoot the photos and edit
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the photos posted photos is the same device that everyone else is using to
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see the photos and I feel like that's the way that the fitness tracking stuff
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on a watch to me
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works and I know it doesn't have like everything like it's it's it's
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interesting when they cut it off like I think it shows you like your last
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workout but it doesn't show you your whole workout history after the phone
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app to your workout history but that's because the history is too much
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information for the watch
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it's just enough but it's like here's what I think you did today
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yeah I think that that that kinda just speaks to the whole purpose of the watch
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in general is just enough and not too much because too much is just gonna be
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is going to make people is going to turn people off to it and I've noticed that
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just would like the notifications deg use the Gmail app at all no I just use
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Apple Mail so Apple Mail
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sandwiches emails all run through Google and Google like you don't get Google
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push email working very well through Apple Mail so I so what I do is I used
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jim is the Gmail out on its own to right away push me you know notification that
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have new email and then when I get that alert I know to go into my Apple Mail
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out and go in such that email it's kind of a roundabout way of being obsessive
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about email but it works for me so I use gmail is basically like it and so I've
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got email alerts on my watch and what gmail does when it notifies you of a new
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email on your watch is it also gives you a few lines of preview of the of the
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message whereas Apple Mail
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when it tells you there's a new email you can actually scroll through the
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whole email but that the weird psychological effect of that is because
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I'm obsessive about email Gmail tells me about I've got a new email and I can see
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only the first few lines that I know I can kind of save it for later and then
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go back when I have time go into my mail program
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and then I know I can respond to it then but if it shows me the whole thing I
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think that I have to respond to it right then so that's another instance of just
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just enough just enough info to like no to do something later with it and this
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is kind of like that time you know reevaluating your time that people were
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talking about early on that the watch kind of Ford's you is like the
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opportunity cure I thought out less and less yeah and I know I've gone back and
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forth that's one of the things room so I feel like it's just I'm lucky that I've
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had the watches on as I have because into me in my opinion has changed on it
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we're at first I thought that it was that this whole argument that it's about
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taking your phone out less I I was like I'm not taking my phone at any less I
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didn't think I was but then I thought about it and I realized I kind of was it
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like into me the difference is due I wanna do something if I want to do
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something I still go to the phone but it's it's like do I just want to check
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what do I want to check something then I can just look at the watch and Adil
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there's I guess subtle difference there I'm sure you know there's all sorts of
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things that are sort of gray areas where it won it but if I'm just checking
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something it's it's amusing to watch I'm not picking the phone up so I am taking
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the phone out but I'm not using it last leg of its something I really wanna do
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I'm still going to do it on the on the phone
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yeah and you want to do stuff so I want to do more stuff with the watch that's
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one of the first things first things I noticed is because we're trained to do
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that like you check something and then you do something about it right away it
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feels unnatural to check something about appear on the watch and not do something
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about it right away so you have to kind of get used to it at least I did and it
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makes me wanna be able to do more with the watch but i'm ok that I I guess but
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yeah that's the end of that thought I but I feel like email is almost like
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ground zero for that line of thinking because and this is the thing I thought
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that sounds really weird but now that I've had the watch him on that kind of
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makes sense is that the watch has your email you know from the mailed out on
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things but you can't write so you don't get to respond you don't get to craft a
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new message it's really just read only and that and I've been using email
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forever all sorts of everything from you know terminals to you know dial-up
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modems and I i've never heard of a read only email client before and it didn't
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make any sense to me even though I don't write that my gmail anymore
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compared to you know with slack and and instant messaging picking up a lot of
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the smaller messages it just didn't make sense to me but I kind of think it is
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cuz I think it's exactly that use case for you said where it's really even
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though you can read the whole message and watched just in case maybe it is
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important it's really just about those first few lines like is this something
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you wanna go deal with right now and I do things I do think there's an anxiety
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reduction in that absolutely it saves it you're exactly right anxiety reducing
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his what's the alternative
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you get a notification your you get a buzz in your pocket while you're having
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a conversation with some somebody it's rude to check the notification so then
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you have the anxiety of not knowing what it is so I think that's that's it that
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sums it up right there in an instant is just suddenly just from the ability to
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turn your wrist
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you know forty degrees towards you and glanced down at a you know that you
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don't have to pay attention to it and you go about you go you go on with the
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rest of your conversation jim has a really cool app for that part of it is
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true that from but I feel like the iPhone app is actually pretty is the new
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york times and I never had the New York Times thing on my phone I do read the
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new york times on the web alot
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and I but I never really use their apps but I wanted to test their watch out and
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and what they had one of the apps it came out like the way you know really
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early like the day after I got the review unit so it was like really there
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weren't that many third-party apps in the App Store yet to try so I wanted to
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try and the reason why is that they unlike every other news organizations
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have ever granted temporary permission to send notifications for they really do
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only send you notifications for important like so days will go by and
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they don't send you any notifications because nothing really happened but then
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you know like you know like the earthquake when the earthquake hit over
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in the Paul that it's something I i dont that was that was actually worth you
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tapping the unrest to tell me that it had happened and I know I know where I
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was going that well I mean just once against just enough it's just the
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important stuff it doesn't need to bring you every time you know that it says I
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don't like I have the breaking news app on my phone I have circa and you can
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scroll through the top five stories and and then you're good and if you want to
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go any deeper but it did like so here's another question do you find yourself
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like lying awake it like in bad guy you watch on you want to consume more
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content through the watch other than because it's a new toy to play with it
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only only in the first few days when I had it and that that is totally worn off
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like I don't want to consume any content
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another example is very common for me I mean I'm guessing it's probably come in
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for everybody who listens to podcast this is the whole reason I think people
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like podcast
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is that we as you know the type of people that you and I are we just cannot
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bear to be bored at all for like 4 15 seconds I cannot you know and and Louisa
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keds entire bits about you know how this shows up what's wrong with us but like
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if I'm in a store and there's two people ahead of me at the register on my phone
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Twitter or something because God forbid I don't have something to occupy my mind
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for the next 45 seconds
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never tempt me to to go to the watch the watch isn't a do something don't bore me
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again if I'm taking action I'm I want to go find something not to be bored by I'd
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still go to the phone I think to go to the phone like the watches for things
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that you don't have to think about and I mean I don't like us certain and again
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they do you know how Apple's using the word it's an official name of the
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features glances but I think it's brilliantly chosen word what classes do
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you know that's a good question I feel like I have been thinking about it like
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I'm waiting for my mother walked over to come out thinking that I would set up
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differently and probably have a lot fewer classes I seem to have a lot and I
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kind of feel like glances are like you really should just make them your
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favorites and then that's like the quickest way to get to those things they
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do because then you don't have to go to that home screen where there's just a
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little but just swipe up and swipe over and there's a glance yeah I mean when I
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first saw the the idea of glances I thought that it was just used to
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consider it like your dog or something
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yes he does your shortcuts but I i think thats not what they intended for it to
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be because theoretically you can access any of your apps pretty easily anyway
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you don't need a shortcut I think it's just like the little bits of information
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that you aren't accessible to you very quickly without having to launch the app
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as well I think but I don't have too many of those things I mean like power
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but you know battery power as one of them have yet but I find it with the
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battery power know maybe it's different for you and that I would be interested
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to hear that
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I like right now mine is that 76% so and we're recording its nine o'clock eastern
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so mean it's mostly through the day
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yeah mines at 59 but I pretty much obsessively like my wrist every time I
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but i think thats a 3842 factor you know like join us turn and I were talking
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about it
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Apple's promise battery life is all for the 38th and then they just sayin real
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small print the 42 will get longer battery life in most contexts and so but
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they don't say how much more cuz they don't want people to feel bad about
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their 38 they just wanted to get the one that's gonna fit fit you right and I'm
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sorry that well I just think that the battery life is not an issue
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yeah it's not it's not gonna screw anybody at the end of the day like when
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they need to do whatever thing you get used to everyday everynight you click on
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the charger and and that's that's all you need to do it's like yet you like
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you like you said you never have to think about it and there are so many
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things like that that you don't have to think about that I think it's great it's
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just becoming more and the tech is becoming more and more see most visible
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and invisible
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fracture it makes it happen probably let's face it by the time the show airs
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was worried about ya he got out the UN so he was leading a crew of volunteers
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doing a dental clinic he does that every year in Nepal he goes to India as well
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and they do Guatemala and soyuz leading a crew and appalled when he had been
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the clinic so they couldn't do the clinic but then it was just about
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getting all these volunteers out safely and see you know flight or shut down for
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communication with the rest of my family we we didn't quite know what was going
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on he managed to get out and days ago and he was on the news and how much do
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you have a link in my inbox so that'll be fine
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put that in the show no that's amazing story and it's a great thing that your
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dad does your dad was a dentist are is dentist now he's retired as it gets
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damaged spaceship terrorist operations were also basically sort of pseudo Star
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that's in other words that's right that's what you as a patient as with you
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it's it in like a little star ship captains chairs and indicate that there
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were other video monitors everywhere you know old-school a tease video monitors
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there was like star steel I think you'd like real production designers do the
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interiors of the offices when we came up with this idea and everything was in
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that light grey coming star wars in inside spaceship yeah is that it was
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pretty neat as a kid and my robots and things and makes being a desk or I mean
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honestly but anyway what a great story glad to hear that is OK of course I love
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you too and I'm sentimental yeah I know he used to go to Macworld right here
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coolest dad ever spaceship desk chairs and took it a Macworld
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yeah he's a good guy all tried to convince him to go again he was when
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there is quake-hit he was like he was getting acupuncture done and he had like
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electrodes hooked up to as his feet and he had his eyes closed and opened his
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eyes and noticed that the whole world was shaking and things are falling off
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the shelf everybody is running out of the office where he was he just ended up
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running out of the office with the electrodes strapped to his feet now way
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yeah I think you're going to say that he thought that maybe the electrode so I go
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to power who does what goes through your mind I don't know that a natural thing
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for human to experience no definitely not I mean even though you guys as as
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Californians are probably more accustomed to thinking about earthquakes
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but I don't drive me I would be the last thing that would
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would be like what the hell is going on in like a minute later someone say that
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was quick to me of course it doesn't it doesn't even occur to me ya know I mean
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it was huge
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here's an idea that popped into my head with a watch and hear you think is as we
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got I'm trying to think zig-zagging between
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agree details on the watch today and and big picture thought like whatcha gonna
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be like in five years is one thing I can't imagine not having on the watch
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because I can't figure out how they would they would do the angles to make a
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practical is how they put a camera on yeah I mean like it's interesting you
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said that cuz I think that's the number one missing thing right now
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hardware wise and I did to me would be in it would be pretty natural I don't
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think it would be a front facing camera looks up at you because I think what
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that the main use case of it is that you want to shoot a picture of something
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else you said your face is not a FaceTime camera it's a you want to avoid
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that seven seconds delay between reaching you know seeing someone you
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want to take a picture of reaching your pocket launched the camera out
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picture you want to avoid that so you just raise your arm and the cameras
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pointing outwards and there's your camera and actually like that cuts the
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experience down to maybe what to add three seconds and I can hardly think of
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a number of times you know I have a two-year-old you never know what you
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never know what's amazing funny thing is going to do next and there's there
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there's already been lots of times when I when I thought if I could raise my
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wrist and shoot yeah I well I think that you know for reasons trivia game I i
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wanna be able to shoot mckittrick at 22 the deadly serious like the current
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world where ordinary citizens have a phone with them within seconds of being
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launched at all times
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has changed the relationship with the police all around this country like a
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big part of what's going on with the protest in Baltimore and other cities is
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a lot of ways based on footage it come out there people shot on their phone to
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give you in with news is breaking it it's just getting to be at this point
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where it just seems like we've always got a camera with us and the lens can be
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anywhere right lens lenses like sort of the easy part it's this in the sensors a
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little bit more difficult than the capture making mechanism is in the
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storage is more difficult than that but I feel like it won't be too long where
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the lens is really on everybody's so where do you think they would put it
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like oh I have no idea i i I am in industrial Dr person there was there was
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a Samsung phone or not phone watch that that that that had it built into the
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wrist strap and absolutely and what my experience with that I love telling the
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stories I was shooting a commercial where I was on camera and what they do
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win with wardrobe and continuity and everything is the second assistant
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director is their job to come over and take a picture of you after every scene
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so you know they know exactly what your wardrobe and so our 2nd ed was all day
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throughout the shoot coming over with as little point and shoot camera snapping a
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photo you know saving it for and towards the end of the day he he said oh let me
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grab me real quick take a picture he didn't have his camera with him so he
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held up his Samsung what is it gear the end I think that there they become so he
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lifted up his Samsung watch any snaps a photo is it ok we're good and I was like
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wow why do I know that the Apple watches and gonna do that but I already wanted
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to write I want the future but I know that they're not going to build it and I
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can see why Samsung put it where they did on
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strap but it made the strap everybody in a lot of the reviewers said it down on
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the strap is is not comfortable because it's you know electronic circuitry
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between the side of your wrist and the watch face makes it thicker and it it
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defeats what clearly a central part of Apple watches design which is this idea
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of band swap ability so I wouldn't go there but I can see why ergonomically
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they put it there anyway the tension and I see is that it seems to me like that
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the tension is I expect to have a camera with me at all times but I also now feel
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like soon enough I'll be able to go with just my Apple watch and you know yeah
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but yet then I wouldn't have a camera with me so then I feel like they're for
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dot dot dot they have to have a camera eventually yeah I mean it's gonna be
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iteratively in the first version of the camera on the watch if there is one is
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gonna look like garbage just like the first you know the first camera on the
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iPhone look pretty bad they do you ever go back throughout your photos librarian
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look at the first I thought it the iPhone pictures you took yeah yeah they
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look terrible and and that's okay and there wasn't a front facing camera
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efforts and that's ok and it didn't shoot video
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not shooting the ball not shooting video is one that every time it comes up now I
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go back and that everyone go back and make weight is that right
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double check that I need to go back and check out holy shit did not shoot video
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and such an Interpol integral part of the products now that we would never be
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without that it doesn't make sense that they would ever ship something without
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that in in you know you just have to wonder how many of those things are not
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in the water and yeah I don't how I feel like there's gotta be some way that they
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could do it I don't know if it would be maybe it would be a front facing camera
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so you could use it for FaceTime but then if you turn your wrist away you
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know you wouldn't be able to see the framing you would just point arrested
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what you're shooting
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and hit the digital crown it would snap a photo and then you could turn your
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risk back to see what what it captured yeah that seems like you would be it
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would work i mean we're not all framing or iTunes now very specifically anyway
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yeah I don't have that sort of thing where I could be off base and maybe
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there will never be a camera on it but I feel like I don't know seems to me like
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everything gets a camera eventually it gets smaller and faster and everything I
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love that part of what you have yours and waltzes conversation where you're
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talking about the iPad and the Rebbe cycles and your reasoning behind it was
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your resume there was a somebody else's the red the reasoning behind people not
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updating as much I it was sort of what I was thinking but it was better put into
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words by that one comment on doctor drags blog like a reader of this blog
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you know that there was so smart so you can recap it probably won't his case
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provides 2012 is a succedent the job is that guided but it was the basic just
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was that we're only five years into this you know first iPad was five years ago
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so we're still in the first upgrade cycle and seems like a lot of people and
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iPad lasts you know for five years and so we still haven't gotten to the point
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where you kind of know how many people should be you know if Apple is doing a
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good job with making new products every year how many people should be buying
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one every year because the people are still on their first one and they're
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pleased with it
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yeah and we and why wouldn't they be it does it does pretty much what what you
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needed to do which is it you can browse the web video you can do some creative
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canvas staff and the processor hasn't gotten that much faster and yeah rocks
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and his dad still uses the virgin when I bet that we that I had originally bought
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like classical music and architecture videos and stuff and it does in doesn't
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trickery
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and I and it's such a is it weird to say it's kind of like a secondary devices
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now I don't think it's weird to say I think it's you know it is what it is you
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know and I think we're going to get as time goes on we're gonna get more and
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more secondary tertiary we're just gonna surround ourselves with little displays
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the watches another one i think is is that I mean you could need but it also
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could be a primary I think that the second it gets a feature that is a
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must-have feature the Virgin one doesn't have I think it bc it's not it's no
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longer secondary devices primary device like you've even like just just consider
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what would happen if the next if maybe two years from now it's got a camera and
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people start seeing that people who have just bought the new version to watch our
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take are getting all these cool cameras or whatever
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argument's sake it's some other features that you can only do with version two
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and like you know the fact that the iPad gotta allen's on it was not that killer
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that the iPad needed in order for people to buy more of them I think you can make
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an argument that the iPhone one suffered from enough feature constrain that
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version two is where people started a really buy into it in and it and it
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allowed him to do more things and you know how many people did you see using a
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version on iphone even three years after that I thought all the time though
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really well no actually I guess I would say the opposite my question was kind of
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leading in the opposite direction I feel like there were that many people if you
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like the iPhone one kind disappeared quickly ya kabiri began because they
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didn't in in in the grand scheme of things that in early so that many in the
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first place I guess so yeah you're right and it could be just like us as a
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parallel model with the with the water you know what I do know what made me
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jump on that as a yes was it there's one teacher at the school who
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was using an original iPhone into like last year and it's cool it's a beautiful
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it is I Apple device did I say I love the device and you know I just don't
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think that he was scared you know about the technology era but it it was a tee
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shot to mind is yes I saw that when teachers to his old iPhone but now I was
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trying to make is it the the iPhone 1 lacked so many features that then came
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out in iterative versions that it became obsolete pretty quickly
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that's what that's what I yeah that's where I was going with ya and so that
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didn't happen with the iPad but I think it will happen with the watch the watch
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will start to get new things that only later versions of the watch can have the
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AM maybe a you know I think it medical centers and stuff like that to you know
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who knows what I wouldn't I probably would not have predicted it was the
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camera back then as I don't think our expectation was so low for so phone
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cameras that I thought well of course these pictures are great it's a cell
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phone camera and it weird that the landscape for video for mobile video
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back then was the Flip camera yeah I was just thinking about that because when
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the first iPhone with video did come out it remember comparing it against the
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flip in the flip still had better picture and you think well of course it
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had better picture it's a dedicated camera whereas the writing was on the
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wall that they just could not compete with Apple in the long run and the
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sensor technology is advancing its amazing clip that it didn't take long
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for there to be an iPhone that blew the fuck away and then you know just quality
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wise let alone can terms of only having one device in your pocket and already
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being on the internet etcetera ya know but we had you know we have tons of
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videos from the earlier years of Jonas is life worried you know they were all
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shot and flips when I dunno if the files are open
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it's you know it feels like a bygone era he does it because I feel like there's
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no longer this idea of scarcity well I don't know it's an interesting question
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did you feel like when you're when you're rolling video on your iPhone do
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you feel like storage is scarce and you want to keep it till you want to cut the
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clip short obviously you're not going to shoot it to our video like you know
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piano recital on your iPhone or something like that but I don't see the
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clips are gonna be like a minute two minutes at the most
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yeah well you know the video story for us is weird because so Jonas was born in
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2004 and so far in January 24 Christmas that year my mother-in-law goddess
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Panasonic MiniDV camera she wanted to say I want to buy you a camera you know
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I want to know if it was a wonderful day and just do what you tell me what to get
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and I got a you know I don't know you know like a consumers'
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dad was a tad camera from 2004 I thought it was cool how small didn't MiniDV was
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you know but then you know but like so first few years of his life
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2004 2005 2006 especially at all shot on MiniDV tapes and I because they were
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tapes then you to me you your once you get them over halfway down their tape
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you're like well I'll just keep shooting because you know it'll say you know they
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did a little sticker on the tape it says Mother's Day 2006 or something but it's
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a I might as well just shoot the rest of the tape though because the next time I
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want to shoot something I want to start with a fresh tape yeah so I think that
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videos were shot with the flip and then
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there the clips are like just as long as you want them to be and it's you know we
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good we got the one where he was most excited
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yeah and did you think when you had a flip did you think of those videos as
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files you know now that really but I was always glad that they would be more
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easily put on a hard drive you know and moved from computer to computer then the
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DVD MiniDV tapes would never really dealt with yeah I'm just so thankful now
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know it took five days for everything to sink when I migrated to photos but my
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25,000 photos and my 2000 videos that I shot are also more protected in the
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cloud may never have to worry about cassettes and never have to worry about
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you know obsolete disc formats hard drives all that stuff is just like it's
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somebody else's problem and it is not there is no barrier to going in
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recalling I don't need a deck to play all that stuff I don't need a special
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cable right it's just it's just there I think that's a beautiful beautiful thing
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that a lot of lip service is paid to it because everybody's you know the cloud
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as it is what it is it's the golden words to express her try to say that
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cloud is so whatever it's just it straight at this point but it's very
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real like that storied data storage is sort of disappeared and we don't have to
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worry about it yeah I like the way I to me it feels like magic when I take and I
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i take more screenshots with my stupid watch them as people because I'm
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thinking about tweeting things like about the stupid you may be thinking
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about it but it's really cool to me that when you do it you take a screenshot it
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just shows up on your phone and then I was like texting
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them from my phone to myself we're dropping them they're driving onto my
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Mac and then I thought I thought you know they just show up in the new photos
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up and I went to the new photos out there you know says today and there's
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all your screenshots they just show up you don't have to sit there and and
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they're playing around here
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airdrop around yourself you just wait a couple seconds and it just shows up in
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photos quicker than I mean it's been it's obviously images are heavier data
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than something like a contact but remember that feeling of like when when
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I first got it shit together and you could add a new contact on your phone it
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would show up in your contacts app in your Mac instantaneously yea or a
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calendar so that's very lightweight data it was still impressive that they got it
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all working especially after like mobile me but now the fact that they can do
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that with images which ten years ago with you know everything would have
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choked instantaneously I think that's incredible and it's it's it's really fun
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to watch and I think that the one thing that disappoints me as an apple hasn't
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done a great job of educating people on the fact that it exists and preparing
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them sure what it what it means
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with everything that everybody is like constantly collecting with their with
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their devices I still kind of feel like Apple's nickel and diming people on the
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cost I feel like the free tier could be significantly higher like I don't I
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don't mind paying four bucks a month or two for 200 gigabytes or whatever but I
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kind of feel like the free tier is way too stingy like there's no way it covers
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everybody's photos and videos and then yeah I bet they open their yeah I think
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so too that spread seems like that sort of thing that they'll just keep every
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WWDC the announced the new pricing and no always by the time may rolls around
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will always be bitching about you know how much it costs because it was prices
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received a year ago let me take one last break and then we'll do the last
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wretched show but I have one more sponsors and it is our good friends at
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want to get to choose your top level domain and some of them are pretty cool
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I saw you guys who dis registered sandwich type video right yeah it was
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pretty awesome a company in Vancouver that manages that mean they knew the
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company and so the guy emailed me there and I snagged it is that's pretty
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awesome however also has email you can add email to any of your domains so
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domain.com get your email right there through hover and to me here's the part
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that to me it's it is sounds too good to be true but it's not is that they've got
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this thing they call Valley transfer so you sign up for however you become her
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customer and then if you're like me you've got domain names registered from
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XYZ registrars from 1995 until today and are all over the place and the other
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companies aren't that great and you really just want to wonder if you don't
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have to do all that work just give your credentials to log into you know who are
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judges move all of your domains from wherever and whenever you first book
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indexing in like the next day there you go you go into long another and all of
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your domain to rate their and again that just sounds too good to be true you
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gotta pay you know I had to pay through the nose for no that's just the the
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domain transfer thing is just part of the service of being another customer
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it's just included in their customer service could not be less hassle free I
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can't even imagine how in theory they could make it less of a hassle to move
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all of your existing domains to cover all sorts of other stuff
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DNS management both management tools for people who have tons of domains you name
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it they've got it so go check them out if you have any need for a new domain
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name if you have an old domain name that you would like to move to a really cool
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company with really good UI for managing it go check out hushvip.com and they
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have a promo code and here's the deal they listen take some explanation but
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they listen to the show their big fans during fireball they listen to shows
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like to talk show ATP so they picked the code based on things that like I've been
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writing about it ever so this week's code is comeback kid all one word CEO at
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me be ACK kiid and that's that's my nickname for a young young New York
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Yankee named Alex Rodriguez whose hope is having a good season come back in it
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makes people angry don't be angry however they picked it but I've been one
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talking about it people get angry about it because when he's coming back from
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his year-long suspension for performance-enhancing drugs should come
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back to my thanks I dot com and the code is comeback kid and then they all know
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you came from here and that you you don't even have to be a fan about us but
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you can just type the code will save some bucks and
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exhaust their looks awesome I don't mean I just I was looking at the same as you
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were talking about it uses to register couple of things I I thought you needed
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to go to like shady places to to get the new TLD no I think it did at first I
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think it did at first but not anymore that's cool I like when you say our good
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friends at cuz it's almost there's a little bit a little goodfellas about it
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you know this is my guess is my good friend over for this is our good friends
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at fracture we you know it makes me think that makes me happy about so many
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of these sponsors is that they come back and you know it's like to me if I i love
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new sponsors to and so the rails tutorial you know thing is great first
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time that they wanted to show hope they come back they have great success but
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the fact that the other three sponsors hello was here a couple months ago and
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they you know like Danny sign up for one the first time and they were so happy
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with the results they sold so many pillows and which is a crazy thing for
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me to say like I i I could definitely like 10 15 years ago imagine a world
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where I had some kind of talk show I wouldn't have known to call it a podcast
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at the time but I could have imagined doing it and I could have imagined that
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the way that I did it was by selling at you know that seems to be a house shows
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always did work and probably always well I could not have imagined that like one
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of the happy sponsors of the show was selling plus I just doesn't it would not
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have occurred to me but anyway it's pretty cool I mean you know every and
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anybody can do any kind of business they want to know how far it has been a
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sponsor of the show as long as the show's had sponsors like years and years
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and years at some level of regularity you know at least every quarter they
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have sponsored couple episodes so I mean it I sincerely mean they're my good
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friends because they've you know them part of my business for for a long time
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and I said I truly think they have a great product
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let's bring it home in 20 last thoughts on watch what do you what he want to
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talk about that we haven't talked about yet
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well I mean just we talked about the future
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a little bit I mean I said the camera what do you what else do you think that
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the watch has it in two or three years that it doesn't have no I can't figure
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out how to do it but I can get to me it's got a gain its own networking but
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then you know you so you don't need an iPhone yeah but that's quite sure you
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know maybe it's just wi-fi only probably would be at first probably the first
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step to that would be to have true wifi and I know that it just gets complicated
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because the watch does support WiFi at a certain level but it's really just using
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like that back channel wifi to stay in contact with your phone while you're on
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the same network so like your phone can be all the way on the fourth floor and
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you're down in the basement
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you know getting clothes out of the dryer and it still connected because
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it's under wifi but your phone
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time you watch doesn't get on wifi like if your phone is in with you period
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that's really cool I didn't realize that that that worked I cause I heard that it
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had WiFi and Bluetooth I just have it is I think Bluetooth as a practical range
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of about thirty feet and you know I think it gets kind of sketchy but it
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definitely is true I haven't some people have asked like have a test exactly how
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far away the phone can be no I don't do reviews like that like I'm not gonna sit
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there with a tape measure and measure whether I get text messages 25 feet do I
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get 26 for you to buy that but I've definitely had the phone
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way more than 30 feet away inside my house and I still get text messages and
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stuff like that and that's a smart because the only places you're gonna be
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that far away from your phone in the first place or places where you know the
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wifi you have your on the WiFi network and it's a friendly place otherwise
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you're outside of a network and you're worried about everybody still in the
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stuff see ya so I don't have the business of it would work because you
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know even if you buy a cellular iPad you start to pay at least you know like
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15 bucks a month to get some kind of thing and nobody wants to keep spending
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ten fifteen bucks a month but there's got to be some kind of way i think that
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once they can shrink cellular antenna and trade it in a watch and not have it
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you know
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decrease the battery to less than a day that it'll have independent cellular was
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it ok to is it fair to say that I don't really want that like i dont yeah I feel
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like if I stepped back to 2002 when we were hugging our iPods up its troops
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firewire to your max in order to manage the libraries on if you asked me would
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you like if you could just have music on your iPod you didn't need to do it three
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or even the iPhone you know the iPhone you still need to connect your Mac in
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the beginning then you ask me like it would you want that to happen CDs do
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everything what I'd probably says it probably say no I'm good at keeping
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everything on my Mac and then just managing it there
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yeah I think you underestimate I don't think it's because it's not because I
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think that you want to do a lot on your watch without the phone again I don't
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think that's ever going to change but I do think though that you should be able
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to do is not worry about how close you are to your phone should give you wanted
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to in our and fracture sizing I think that's a huge one is that you don't have
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to have your stupid phone you know strapped to your arm in a band or
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whatever and then you go for a run for five miles and if an important education
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convener still gonna get it to take its gotta happen eventually but i dont have
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you have to switch to some kind of plan read everything is sort of all the card
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you know you just sign up you give Verizon $100 a month and you get all
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your devices it sort of works with the family plan now but yeah I can see it I
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can see that I know cos III was almost missed a GPS is another one and I know
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that the people who run and bicycle that's the number one thing that they've
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they feel like this first ones missing that makes sense I mean I first iPhone
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didn't object GPS and it felt like you had to do is bullshit triangulating to
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get yer
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location on a map which seemed like a jet pack chillin with not a prize not
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concern for me I'm not an avid sportsman so I like maybe that's why but I have
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GPS pretty accurate GPS on my friends so helping me sweating yeah but at the
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exercise of the people who are really into fitness wanted they want to go
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without the problem they want to just six the watch is so much better than you
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don't have this you know it is no good way to run with the phone on the really
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ended they just want to go and do it and that without GPS they feel like they can
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because I did so many of these out for like bicycling Wednesday they have like
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they already have like three years of like every single bike ride they've had
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their exact map of where they've gone and they don't lose the same way that we
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were talking before about what to watch for now that you've got to watch out for
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a week and you've got like this week worth of activity things you want to
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keep wearing a watch tomorrow because you want to you don't want you to want
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to lose gifted yes but they've already got there already used to having that
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GPS data I keep my phone in the little thingy packed like they are they make
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these like really slim profile fanny pack see where I don't really really I
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left john grew really both fanny packs as well we can't even is very low
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profile you can even see it under this book but it's ok so my cable tweeted the
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other day was a cable or maybe somebody we did regardless what he had a waiter
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asked him if he saw his watch and said Oh you have the new iPhone watch I
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thought that was kind of fascinating that it's a waiter asked me yesterday
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yesterday ok I see i watch can you can show me what it does I watch make sense
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whatever that's the that's the go-to iPhone watch made different kind of
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sense because that means that people are some people are just naturally
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associated with the hub being the computer that connects to being the
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worried about the fact that they're selling it as a thing you have to have
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with an iPhone you know that it is that a bitter pill for people to swallow that
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this thing really needs to be in within 30 feet of your iPhone at all times to
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functionality I don't think so I think I could be wrong but I think people would
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look at people like myself would look at it as an advantage I think it's also
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it's like a tether was tether and where we I mean it's what it just means to me
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is it makes my watch that much powerful gives my imbues my watch with the power
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of an iPhone which has been working for eight years to be as powerful as it is
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it really the one thing that really struck me early on was how much the
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watch want to be in contact with your iPhone because as soon as it out of
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range of your I finally get to power your iPhone off you get like in my
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opinion is almost an ugly icon not ugly like that it was poorly drawn because
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it's like a red you know where the -notify know what youre so if you turn
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your phone off the watch gets a little icon up at the top a little red it's
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like a little red phone with a line through it like it's saying I can't I
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can't find my phone that compared with and there's no there's no way to get rid
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of that icon until you're back in range of the phone again it's just it it at
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first I thought wow they really made that glaring but then I realized using
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it that it's because the watch really does want to be within range to the
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phone I gets its like lacking in oxygen when it's not good not doesn't have the
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phone so how cool is that pairing process of appointing your phone at your
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watch I think it's so great and I think I am guilty as charged that I haven't
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sung it praises
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that I feel like it unheralded how good the pairing processes incredible
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beautiful could have been a QR code thank God it wasn't just like magical I
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can't I can't think of the last time I had an experience with tickets that
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magical as with the first time I slid the power on the I for the first iPhone
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is showing a picture of the world was like holy crap this is a magical thing
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that unboxing experience of point your phone at year at the weird magic I type
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yeah graphic on your on your watch that was just some smart smart conservative
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yeah and thats as as it sinks the first time it to me the animation is just
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gorgeous it's very simple very you know but it but it's a sweat so many details
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in a process so like there's a watch on the phone like a picture of a watch on
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the phone as the phone app is syncing with the watch and the animation on the
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fake watch that shown on the phone it stays in perfect sync with the animation
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you know the progress in Iran on the watch itself so cautious signaling to
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you these two things are connected and I feel like maybe the perfect way of so
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many like capping the show is like you told me when we were texting back and
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forth when you have the watch and I didn't yet and you told any said I
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realized what sort of you wrote this piece about it but he said I i realized
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what the phone it or what the watches what what did what would you say it's
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not just a really cool digital watch yeah it's a cool as digital watch it's
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it's it's like the most sophisticated digital watch you've ever seen any and
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you know it does and I think the most futuristic thing probably in an old
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world context of what is a watches like that you can make phone calls with me
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that's pretty awesome it's not something I would put into practice
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hardly ever
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I think it's awesome that my watch rings when I get any call and I can decline it
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from there but I would never like especially in front of people I've never
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really take a call on my watch and just seems like a weird thing to do but it is
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super futuristic and bond like but to me I think if I were to summarize what the
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watches I would say it's a really cool second Street rewrite yeah yeah I would
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totally green strapped to your body so it's always that I will say this I have
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to say this before we go because we didn't really talk about the touch the
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Dutch communication but that's hard for you to talk but here's the thing is hard
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for you to talk about though cos Roxana doesn't have what you have hers and you
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have viewers yeah so like she's the most intimate person you know
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connected to me so I have yet to try that out and so like I i mean you you
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sent me a text message that I only just got like we're halfway through the show
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cause I was ignoring me now that was my way of I wanted it to be like are you
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yeah okay that was that that that's that's nice I just did like I said you
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don't text like a great idea so I have yet to prove out that use case I think
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for myself whether it's a heartbeat or whether it's like drawing a sketch to me
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the screen is way too small to draw anything meaningful and for some reason
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the only thing I can think to draw is a ticking bomb do that the next meaningful
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thing is a happy face that you can so I just end up not using I sent a lot of
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happy faces no but you know I said this before it's it's it's so true is that
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for those features and so many people after my initial review came up there
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like to do how many did give you did they give you to see can test the
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drawing in a way that we tested the drawing was I could send taps and
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heartbeats and tools to people who worked at Apple and I did it just to see
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their work but it always felt a little weird because it's like
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all of those communications seemed way too informal and the harpy one to me it
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really does I hate to use the word because it sounds corny but it really is
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a little intimate it it doesn't seem like something you would send somebody
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who have a professional relationship what do you do me a favor as an
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experiment I've got a tap message cued up I'm just gonna try try drawing
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something is the first time I've done this in real time ok somebody seems
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sometimes a little late so I don't know taps getting your temps that's nice like
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raindrops so wait what am I just draw a picture but did you add me to the right
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now it is alright so it works in action shock is the future
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I did that the dollar and I kind of guessed went down but was gonna get a
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review and I was checking and you can tell somebody has an apple watch because
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then when you put them in your friends and you go to their friends they they
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get the third button down you know and see instead of this phone contacts you
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can also send digital touch so I just kept waiting for Dalrymple to get the
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digital touch and in soon as he did I i cinema similar dry so I could so that I
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could be feels good
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well as always a pleasure to have you on the show thanks so much greater really
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really great now you can watch video that your company and its your website
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sandwich dodd video so that's where people can go to learn more about the
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amazing videos that you and your staff up to how big the people we work with
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army of talented people and of course probably more important than seeing
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which video your remarkable Twitter account only damage so my thanks to you
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everybody get more Adam at those locations here before we go
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thank you so much for your time
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