0:00:00the incomparable number 241 april twenty
0:00:11years to play ball
0:00:16welcome back everybody to be
0:00:17uncomfortable i'm your host Jason L it
0:00:19is time for another episode of old movie
0:00:23club or muvico full movie clips where we
0:00:26watch an old movie and then or two or
0:00:28three or five and then we talk about
0:00:30them and to celebrate baseball's opening
0:00:33week we have picked to baseball movies
0:00:38so let me introduce my panelists David
0:00:41lure hello hello Monty Ashley thanks for
0:00:44being here
0:00:45hello Erica and sign batter up I know
0:00:48how much you love somebody who loves
0:00:50baseball
0:00:50I what I am just excited to be here when
0:00:53we're talking about a movie that was
0:00:55made in my preferred area of moviemaking
0:00:57so I'm threat that's true that's true
0:00:59well said Steve let's uh who voices the
0:01:02old movie club theme song hello hello
0:01:04there
0:01:05play ball Jason voices is the term you
0:01:09use and here as always the man who picks
0:01:13the old movies on old movie club the old
0:01:15man who picks the old movies on old
0:01:17movie club it's phillip michael oh thank
0:01:19you i feel like i never left
0:01:21indeed so what do you what do you have
0:01:24for us to explain yourself so so as you
0:01:26mentioned it's it's baseball season at
0:01:29some point soon when Morgan this is
0:01:32about it is the opening week will yes
0:01:35yeah baseball season is about to start
0:01:37or just started depending on when you
0:01:39are listening or started a long time ago
0:01:40if you listen to this late
0:01:42some teams are probably playing in japan
0:01:43for some reason right now would be so it
0:01:48got me thinking hey there's been a lot
0:01:49of movies made about baseball over the
0:01:51years some of them not so good some of
0:01:54them okay
0:01:55some of them I I kind of enjoy and and I
0:01:59i picked a couple tonight 1a 1a
0:02:02controversial pick under the under the
0:02:04definition of old movie which we can get
0:02:06to later but the other a a bit of a
0:02:09classic in terms of in terms of when it
0:02:13was made and the approach that the
0:02:16filmmaker took with we're going to look
0:02:18at pride of the Yankees from the
0:02:19controversial pick under the definition
0:02:21of movie
0:02:22Wow
0:02:24I get into that later 1942 his pride of
0:02:28the yankees and 1976 'as the bad news
0:02:31bearers let's start off with pride of
0:02:35the Yankees might have made age before
0:02:37beauty
0:02:38I have lots of us about that 152 and
0:02:41wrote some things down
0:02:43well let me I i will quickly go through
0:02:45the plot since basically it is the
0:02:47biopic of lou gehrig uh perhaps the
0:02:51greatest first baseman to ever ever play
0:02:53the the grand game uh and as I think
0:02:57Jason pointed out in in
0:02:59hit it Twitter tonight it is the the
0:03:03life of lou gehrig in real time because
0:03:05i don't remember the movie being this
0:03:08slow i don't remember but it it goes on
0:03:11for a little shade over 2 hours and and
0:03:14it feels like two hours
0:03:16I didn't think so oh well you'll get a
0:03:19chance to to rebut are cruel arguments
0:03:21later
0:03:22um yeah let me quickly just go through
0:03:25the plot because they there's not a lot
0:03:27of twists and turns here Lou Gehrig's
0:03:29born Lou Gehrig's born luke air grows a
0:03:32playing baseball lou gehrig goes to
0:03:33Columbia he's really good at sports
0:03:36he signs with the Yankees the Yankees
0:03:38are a really good baseball team and
0:03:40largely because of lou gherig has a
0:03:41little bit of a friendly rivalry with
0:03:44Babe Ruth please himself in the movie
0:03:46lou gehrig meets a nice girl the the
0:03:49lovely Teresa Wright one of my favorite
0:03:52actresses lou gehrig wins many many many
0:03:55awards he has a newspaper man who is his
0:03:58best friend and you never leaves his
0:04:00side and which when i'm sure we will
0:04:04talk about good old Walter Brennan who
0:04:06plays said newspaper man but then Lou
0:04:09Gehrig gets gets sick you might have
0:04:11heard of it Lou Gehrig's disease what
0:04:13are the odds and he on yuh the movie
0:04:17ends with him
0:04:18spoiler alert the other guys at the end
0:04:21now he doesn't have the walks he walks
0:04:23off the set once often actually really
0:04:26the maybe you haven't if you haven't
0:04:29seen Lou Gehrig the the pride of the
0:04:30Yankees you you've probably seen the
0:04:32ending
0:04:32yes because when this gets shown a lot
0:04:35and for good reason it's the best part
0:04:37of the movie is the most i think the
0:04:39most emotionally resonant part but I'm
0:04:42sure we'll get to that later one of the
0:04:44reasons a I let me back up for a second
0:04:48that this is a genre of movie that was
0:04:51very popular in the nineteen thirties
0:04:54nineteen forties and little bit into the
0:04:56nineteen fifties that the baseball hero
0:04:58biopic and generally speaking they're
0:05:03not great movies they're kinda all cut
0:05:05from the same cloth where it's the way
0:05:07work hard and eat your vegetables Jimmy
0:05:09and you can grow up to be like me one of
0:05:11the ones that really stands out for me
0:05:13as just an example of how mediocre and
0:05:17middling these are is a movie called the
0:05:18winning team which stars on a fellow by
0:05:21the name of Ronald Reagan who went on to
0:05:23other things
0:05:25yeah never heard of anyone to act with a
0:05:27chimp yes but enough about George Bush
0:05:29is great and accuracy was a president
0:05:35but he plays Peter Alexander in this
0:05:39movie who was a bit notorious drunkard
0:05:42and that that aspect of its touched on
0:05:47briefly as i recall it's been years
0:05:48since I've seen this picture but not in
0:05:50not in to the extent that Peter
0:05:52Alexander actually was a very a very
0:05:57severe alcoholic and instead it's ronald
0:05:59reagan and doris day and it's keep
0:06:00trying and Peter Alexander you'll get
0:06:02there soon and it-it-it it's not a very
0:06:06good movie there are a bunch of others
0:06:08that we could mention that are not very
0:06:09good movies pride of the Yankees i think
0:06:11is ok um and I think it's largely okay
0:06:14based on the performances of Gary Cooper
0:06:16and and Teresa right which is why I
0:06:18kinda picked it i think it's a good
0:06:20example of the best you can kind of hope
0:06:23for in a
0:06:24no a pre nineteen fifties baseball movie
0:06:28where this will certainly be the most
0:06:30earnest movie we ever picture for old
0:06:32movie club there is no winks or nods to
0:06:35the audience no hints at the darkness
0:06:37that lurks in every man's heart that
0:06:40this is just a straightforward
0:06:41old-fashioned let's put on a show
0:06:44and-and-and make the people leave with
0:06:48the maybe a tear in their eye but also a
0:06:50song in their heart about about what a
0:06:52great guy who Gehrig was and it's
0:06:55enjoyable you would've been more
0:06:56enjoyable if it were better paste i
0:06:58think but don't feel the word you're
0:07:01looking for is hagiography this is an
0:07:03elevation to godhood of the great Lou
0:07:05Gehrig yes awesome
0:07:07he was in all of the weight in every
0:07:10aspect of life you know I think a lot of
0:07:12the reason for that can be explained by
0:07:14the fact that this was 1942 you just
0:07:18mind as you read the oh he died later I
0:07:20year previously here a year before
0:07:22you're in a month in fact one of the
0:07:24baseball players that you know but the
0:07:27the live baseball players that they
0:07:29pulled in to be actors in this film was
0:07:30still active at the time right bill
0:07:32Dickey right bill Dickey yeah also a
0:07:35Hall of Fame baseball player but but
0:07:36yeah but the fact that it's 1942 and if
0:07:39you read the opening scroll it reads
0:07:40like hey young soldiers off to war die
0:07:43with dignity like lou gehrig yes indeed
0:07:46the one of the rare films that is that
0:07:49is that begins with a crawl written by a
0:07:52writer just not connected with the the
0:07:55story in any way
0:07:56Damon Runyon was a sports writer and a
0:07:58big big baseball cock and up that that
0:08:02is the most mundane damon runyon thing
0:08:04ever written he he's the author whose
0:08:07stories returned into guys and dolls of
0:08:10basically and and he you know it yet
0:08:14there's a streak of cynicism and his
0:08:16work that is not evident that crawl at
0:08:18their own the movie people in this world
0:08:20cynicism does not even exist
0:08:23no oh no well yes it does in the form of
0:08:25the evil of the evil reporter who is
0:08:29your friend actually throttles at one
0:08:31point another who is apparently a
0:08:34stand-in for Ford Frick who became the
0:08:36Commissioner of baseball
0:08:37that's another story what so altogether
0:08:41uh a confession i also picked this movie
0:08:43because it features two characters who
0:08:46were just I think monstrous and I really
0:08:50wanted to be honest this this with this
0:08:53one was for you Steve I'm gonna
0:08:57disappoint you i think phil the Walter
0:08:59Brennan character who is based on a real
0:09:02sports writer named friendly but and is
0:09:04a composite here but it's mostly
0:09:06friendly it was very good friends with
0:09:07lou gehrig and in this movie has I said
0:09:10never leaves Lou Gehrig's I lou gehrig
0:09:13is on the beach canoodling with his wife
0:09:15i have had Walter Brennan pops into the
0:09:18picture hey you how you doing here comes
0:09:21better but it's do yeah can you imagine
0:09:23a baseball player today going to the
0:09:25doctor to get his results and
0:09:27voluntarily bringing a reporter into the
0:09:29room and keep it out of the papers ok
0:09:31yes i will the reporter doing the whole
0:09:34we're gonna we're gonna cover this up
0:09:36no one's gonna find out the truth here
0:09:38and but yes so there's the Walter
0:09:41Brennan character and then the other
0:09:42great monster of history that is
0:09:44featured in this movie is mama Garrick
0:09:47oh yeah man yeah she was the only way to
0:09:50put any drama into the movie before the
0:09:52end so they just made her the worst
0:09:54person in the world
0:09:56yeah I i have a phrase in so we're sort
0:10:00of hopping around here i want my notes
0:10:01about about mrs. Gehrig what she has a
0:10:06great line where there is that series of
0:10:08scenes where she goes shopping with mrs.
0:10:10Geary which is not a thing you want to
0:10:12do and no improvement with mrs. Geary
0:10:15and at one point as they're putting up
0:10:18the wallpaper that she's just bought
0:10:19separately from what everybody else
0:10:21expressed as the wallpaper that they
0:10:23wanted in her son and his new wife's
0:10:25bedroom she says oh this is much better
0:10:28this is more practical wallpaper that me
0:10:30laugh out more practical wallpaper
0:10:34pattern
0:10:35ok and what you don't want that MC
0:10:38Escher wallpaper or that all paper that
0:10:40get put in non-euclidean angles and
0:10:42drives men bad it's simple but the issue
0:10:45wallpaper you might actually walk out
0:10:47the window or try to
0:10:48door to get a breeze or even among Derek
0:10:51is up
0:10:51yes she'sshe's problematic she is the
0:10:54key is the silent villain of this movie
0:10:56and men in many aspects you know they
0:10:58try and make a heel out of the out of
0:11:00the snide cynical reporter who's babe
0:11:02ruth's best buddy and who mocks lou
0:11:05gehrig every turn until of course lou
0:11:07gehrig is is is is sick and old but
0:11:10there's a Seltzer fight at one point
0:11:12there in their series of there is a
0:11:14Seltzer fight yes but it if you ask me I
0:11:18i really think mama Gehrig is this movie
0:11:20is true monster I can't get mad at the
0:11:23bad reporter because if you had your
0:11:24choice to follow lou gehrig around and
0:11:26get every story he feed you or follow
0:11:28babe ruth around and get every story he
0:11:30feeds you
0:11:31you're gonna get a lot more material out
0:11:33of paper and Alicia roof stuff is
0:11:35unprintable well you can do that thing
0:11:40about how we 815 hotdogs between its
0:11:42dripping
0:11:43that's right based on the evidence of
0:11:45this movie Lou Gehrig never did anything
0:11:47now
0:11:49well he went to come on a lot of awards
0:11:51and we played baseball
0:11:52yeah he was a great baseball player but
0:11:54you don't get the scoop to do to find
0:11:56that out any beat up a guy in this
0:11:57fraternity there was that
0:11:59yeah I died by flying across the day
0:12:01controversy and he was the apparently
0:12:03the oldest freshman at Columbia you here
0:12:05so get okay you just brought up several
0:12:07things that i want to talk about one of
0:12:08them is is that the challenge of a
0:12:14portraying a life that is fine
0:12:18yes again I like that they're so the
0:12:22relationship is his marriage is nice and
0:12:28they have a good thing they never let
0:12:30the honeymoon and right they say that at
0:12:31one point and at one point in my notes I
0:12:33say lou and his wife sure do have fun
0:12:35they wrestle with flowers and stuff and
0:12:40what is that wacky rose throwing fight
0:12:42seem forced oh man right it comes off
0:12:45like that snowball fight in Groundhog
0:12:47Day too many it's a challenge i mean
0:12:48again you don't have to have I mean most
0:12:50most marriages do not have movie level
0:12:53drama but they don't try to make movies
0:12:56out of those marriages and the this one
0:12:58there's a movie and they're just every
0:13:00time we see them it's like Oh
0:13:02they're nice it's fine that that's why
0:13:03mama gary i think is such a monster is
0:13:06because they gotta do something to
0:13:08complicate their their domestic life and
0:13:10it is the monstrous mother-in-law Lucas
0:13:13I didn't actually like i didn't i didn't
0:13:15actually I love to Risa right but I
0:13:17didn't like that character very much at
0:13:18all at the beginning because you that
0:13:20you can go through your hood
0:13:23not that I mean that's just big deal but
0:13:25Lou Gehrig is this he's just kind of a
0:13:27big sweet dumb dope and she at every
0:13:30turn is making fun of him and teasing
0:13:32him in kind of a not very nice way at
0:13:35the beginning she kind of gets over it a
0:13:36little bit but I don't know it seems
0:13:38like she does and then later she does it
0:13:39to Walter Brennan two tries to make him
0:13:41think that that lose cheating on her as
0:13:43well you can make sure that your
0:13:45president she gets her kicks from some
0:13:47bad some twisted start but again I don't
0:13:49like this girl you know that dude was
0:13:51hanging around your house and your and
0:13:52your beach trips all the time you
0:13:54probably would do something similar just
0:13:55he should know better than to think ill
0:13:57of st. Loup india soon as you know what
0:14:00moving he's in for pizza so i would so I
0:14:02think that's a problem I think there's a
0:14:04challenge you just that Lou Gehrig is a
0:14:06nice fellow and has a head has a good
0:14:08marriage and his his downfall is not
0:14:12because this doesn't follow drama arc it
0:14:15follows life our kids his his downfall
0:14:18is that he gets a terrible disease and
0:14:20dies
0:14:20yeah the general structure of the movies
0:14:23weird for me because for most of the
0:14:25movie nothing bad happens to lose yeah
0:14:28he's born he's a great baseball player
0:14:30gets to go to college
0:14:32gets to be on the Yankees wins a whole
0:14:34bunch of championships with a bunch of
0:14:35many titles because he is the best first
0:14:37baseman to ever play the game has a
0:14:39great marriage so you're thinking
0:14:41nothing bad ever happens to this guy
0:14:42then the worst possible thing happens to
0:14:44this guy and movies over
0:14:46I i think if you were going to remake
0:14:48this movie the subject matter of the lou
0:14:51gehrig story is his indie and and that's
0:14:54why I think that the ending of the movie
0:14:55is probably what works best for me
0:14:57although I I i find Teresa Wright
0:14:59charming in this movie so that I didn't
0:15:02have quite the problem with their their
0:15:04relationship that you guys are having
0:15:05but obviously the last 15 minutes of the
0:15:08movie is is what should have been your
0:15:09move
0:15:10yes and the real the real problem with
0:15:12that is is the ratio because this is a
0:15:14two-hour eight-minute movie
0:15:16yep and 15 minutes of that is sad
0:15:20Lou Gehrig is dying and the rest of it
0:15:22is all stuff happens to lou gehrig but
0:15:25nothing bad ever happens to leave here
0:15:26it's the human drama part of it too
0:15:28because what when he gets diagnosed
0:15:29there there is that scene which yeah
0:15:32it's hokey but it hints at the true
0:15:34human story here which is you is it
0:15:36three strikes doc that I never argue
0:15:38with an umpire that and and don't tell
0:15:42my wife she must know and she's like I
0:15:44knew it the moment I came in and she
0:15:46cries and all that's good but then we go
0:15:48we switch from that to the the day of
0:15:51the fair well which is again it
0:15:53basically in real time it has all the
0:15:56drama of a pregame ceremony at a
0:15:58baseball game which is this a nun
0:16:00I you are you saying that you weren't
0:16:02impressed with the postmaster-general
0:16:03doesn't want to see me the radio and the
0:16:06radio announcer describing what's
0:16:08happening like it's a horse race and now
0:16:09the Postmaster General is gonna be
0:16:11shaking his hand now we moved away that
0:16:14I mean his speech is good but but but in
0:16:16the gap there is what this movie or or
0:16:19at least if you were telling the story
0:16:20today how you would tell it which is it
0:16:22is this human tragedy of this person who
0:16:25is the best at has had a good life and
0:16:26is the best at what he does and now has
0:16:29gotten this terrible disease and it
0:16:30struck down in this physical prime
0:16:32exactly yeah and yeah it's just sort of
0:16:34like I got a bad break a and then and
0:16:37then he falls off of a chair and is
0:16:40suddenly a terrible player and and then
0:16:43he says I quit and gives us gives a
0:16:45heart-rending speech and walks out and
0:16:46that's the end of the movie and you're
0:16:47missing you know I think I there's only
0:16:50the hint of the human drama that
0:16:51happened behind the scenes which I
0:16:52understand for a movie that was made
0:16:531942 was made right after his death it's
0:16:56just now looking at you think you missed
0:16:58you missed the most important part or
0:17:01you or if you didn't miss it you only
0:17:02showed us a glimmer of it at the very
0:17:04end of two hours but even at the time
0:17:06you think you can assume that people
0:17:08know how good Lou Gehrig is right you
0:17:11don't need to spend that hour of the
0:17:12movie showing his baseball career
0:17:14well there's also the the idea that you
0:17:17know if if we're making this now for
0:17:19making aloo Gary
0:17:21now we're not having to cooperate with
0:17:24what if anyone who knew him yes
0:17:26and where is back then it's all you know
0:17:29all the can't do what I watch like that
0:17:31if you happy what Eleanor Garrett was
0:17:33very involved in any in signing off on
0:17:35this movie and it yet i mean the the
0:17:38doctor scene is pretty much the opposite
0:17:41of what really happened you know they
0:17:42they sort of made it Rosie for him
0:17:45because his wife didn't want him to be
0:17:47depressed for four years and so it's
0:17:49like well you know you might need a cane
0:17:51for 10 to 15 years and you know it's
0:17:53going to be okay you know you'll fight
0:17:55it and and his final speech is yeah it's
0:17:59mostly paraphrasing and using the same
0:18:01things but in real life he ended with
0:18:03you know I feel like the luckiest man in
0:18:05baseball you know but you know I have a
0:18:09lot left to live for
0:18:11yeah which you couldn't really into it
0:18:13you know at that point you can't do that
0:18:14in the movie because well we know
0:18:16yeah i think i would have been more
0:18:17poignant actually if they had kept that
0:18:19line and that was what am i if I have a
0:18:21criticism of of of of how they truncated
0:18:25that speech that would be at that's
0:18:27because that's the that's the the the
0:18:29dagger as it were
0:18:31yeah now about managers coming out of
0:18:34the dugout and it looks like he's going
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0:20:29get back to the game I would like to
0:20:31make a specific criticism of this movie
0:20:33which is that it does not need a musical
0:20:35interlude in the middle
0:20:36yeah she does it was made in the 1940s
0:20:39ya know but I i deferred Erica here
0:20:42Erica is quite correct i had had a
0:20:45stopping and explain this to Stephen
0:20:46little movies using what is going on
0:20:48what are they doing and I was like honey
0:20:50you see this is 1942 it was just
0:20:52expected every film had this and this
0:20:55was at the point where the woman hadn't
0:20:57started singing it was just dancing and
0:20:59I was like you know I said you know
0:21:01usually it's somebody singing a song in
0:21:03a club like this while the main
0:21:04characters are sitting at a table
0:21:05watching but you know in some cases the
0:21:07dance with band and then somebody
0:21:08started singing and I was like see see
0:21:10that's entertainment
0:21:12that's the hit song from pride of the
0:21:14Yankees I like it when the film noir
0:21:16suddenly has some hot jazz but here
0:21:18especially for a two-hour movie seemed
0:21:21kind of irrelevant
0:21:23well as a blank even has a musical
0:21:25number but come on his flaws in Yolanda
0:21:27there is nothing irrelevant about veloz
0:21:29and Yolanda or not a noble and his as
0:21:33you know based on the fact that they are
0:21:35in the first set of title cards
0:21:37yes strongly they were a pretty big deal
0:21:40in 1942 that was a good get crushes
0:21:43that was that was about bizarre scene
0:21:46but I was and I was just like how well
0:21:47you know it isn't i'm already that you
0:21:49wanted to
0:21:50yeah it's the variety show portion of
0:21:52the program and the previous scene we
0:21:53learned though is another musical note
0:21:55in a previously when they're at the
0:21:56carnival in Chicago it turns out that
0:21:59all the Calliope xin Chicago just play
0:22:01that toddlin town over and over and over
0:22:04again to tell you that you're in chicago
0:22:05entire night I think modern-day movies
0:22:08would be better if they had a mandatory
0:22:10musical number interested in there for
0:22:12no reason like imitation game there'd be
0:22:15a little song and dance
0:22:16well that that's some movies do the
0:22:18tobey maguire spider-man has the
0:22:21inexplicable macy gray musical member in
0:22:23the middle of it before the Green Goblin
0:22:24kill some people wonder why is that in
0:22:27it there's that rave scene in one of
0:22:28those matrix sequels
0:22:30yeah yeah yeah I did really enjoy every
0:22:32step seen that babe ruth was in i might
0:22:36think babe ruth is really great at
0:22:38playing babe ruth I enjoy the most
0:22:40really very well captain method acting
0:22:43he seemed to like being on screen he
0:22:45does not come off very well in this
0:22:47movie though everything about it but
0:22:50little bit it's interesting you know if
0:22:52he shows up in the children's hospital
0:22:54room scene where you know Little Billy
0:22:55is is crippled and you know he's
0:22:57promising him a home run and you know
0:23:00all the scenes with Babe Ruth is him oh
0:23:01and here's another picture get another
0:23:02picture Kid and then he said I'll get
0:23:04you home runs and walks out and and it's
0:23:06amazing to me that he agreed to do that
0:23:08the kid knows to get a better offer
0:23:09immediately by the way it's a yes about
0:23:12hitting 240 babes that one gets good who
0:23:15comes in next me ask for three
0:23:17I don't think it is best to ruin the
0:23:19Yankees chance he did he did because he
0:23:21turned the entire thing into a home run
0:23:23hitting contest because as this movie
0:23:24portrays baseball is nothing but a bunch
0:23:27of people trying to hit home runs
0:23:29well as you know from watching any
0:23:31baseball movie taking an intentional
0:23:33walk is the height of stupidity and got
0:23:35a swing at those balls kids
0:23:37yeah the radio announcers like he can't
0:23:39get the second home run for that kid
0:23:41it's the World Series the entire season
0:23:44has led up to this and the radio
0:23:46announcer is saying Gehrig I don't know
0:23:48this could be a failure he's only hit
0:23:49one home run in this world series game
0:23:51Kenny hit a second home run for that kid
0:23:53you see Jason back then they didn't
0:23:55understand the importance of on base
0:23:57to jest indeed what is that if i may
0:23:59interrupt with some baseball nerdery
0:24:00baseball-reference dot-com is the worst
0:24:03thing that ever existed for movies like
0:24:05this because you can go look up the box
0:24:07why didn't you got that too and there is
0:24:10a game where Lou Gehrig hit two home
0:24:11runs against the cookie Bruce didn't hit
0:24:13home but I everybody get one at all any
0:24:15lost that World Series no no they want
0:24:18that one I think
0:24:19no I think that's the one they lost in
0:24:20seven games oh I thought this was the
0:24:22the 20-city the now I think this was the
0:24:25one that was when I'm 20-hour we're
0:24:27going to leave that's it this otherwise
0:24:29delightful film is now ruined the guys
0:24:32in 1942 would prefer that you call them
0:24:34Wallops good point good point
0:24:38I you know I may have I may be confusing
0:24:41my dates i think this was one that they
0:24:43actually won but a regard we gotta st
0:24:46what says obviously this is the thing
0:24:49that totally destroys pride of the
0:24:52yankees and renders it one of the worst
0:24:54movies in history
0:24:55call me ASAP but Little Billy smiling in
0:24:57his hospital bed with tears dripping
0:24:59dripping down his face totally works on
0:25:01home
0:25:01I don't know when he shows up later
0:25:03shape you it's me Billy see I didn't
0:25:06like I didn't like Little Billy because
0:25:08he looks like a tiny freaky-looking
0:25:10steve buscemi I just couldn't get past
0:25:11that freaky-looking steve buscemi really
0:25:14I i will i will point out on the Babe
0:25:16Ruth story starring William Bendix pulls
0:25:18a similar trick where baby visits a kid
0:25:21in the hospital and says hitting a home
0:25:23run baby and babe of course just the
0:25:25call shot right again yeah i think so i
0:25:28can't remember if it's that exact home
0:25:30run but hits the homerun for the kid and
0:25:32then years later when babe ruth is dying
0:25:34of cancer
0:25:34the kid turns out to be as oncologist oh
0:25:37wow
0:25:38at the end of the movement of the
0:25:39transfer and theirs and theirs are light
0:25:41and there's a choir of children outside
0:25:42singing take me out to the ballgame like
0:25:44a team and that that by the way is you
0:25:48got off light with pride of the Yankees
0:25:49security there's so much space me out to
0:25:51the ballgame in this movie two minutes
0:25:53in my mic I i'm tired of take me as a
0:25:55moment when it continues to follow a bit
0:25:59with Billy though it doesn't work for me
0:26:00because gary is so I bulgaria Cooper I
0:26:03guess it's just so awkward in that scene
0:26:05the end and that highlight something
0:26:07that's that's kind of my one of my
0:26:09bigger problems with this movie
0:26:10together which is that they portray lou
0:26:12gehrig as really really socially inept I
0:26:17mean it's almost excruciating yeah it's
0:26:19it's almost like he has Asperger's or
0:26:20something the way yeah it's I think that
0:26:22sort of gary cooper young remember from
0:26:25another I you love ya an earlier movie
0:26:28that we liked him a lot but he's a stiff
0:26:31he has a stiff guy and I like his
0:26:35performance in this movie i I'm I'm
0:26:37willing to overlook the fact that when
0:26:38he's young and in his prime Gary
0:26:40Cooper's the exact wrong person to play
0:26:42it but he does a really good job with
0:26:45the older lou gehrig I really think he
0:26:50acts very well in the scene where he
0:26:53realizes that his body isn't responding
0:26:54anymore and he manages to get a look of
0:26:57panic across his face that I I just
0:27:00think it's so very natural and and how
0:27:02someone of his physicality would react
0:27:06in that situation right body morning he
0:27:08just bodies training in the locker room
0:27:10and they always just kind of absolutely
0:27:12terrified afterwards even though
0:27:14everybody is playing it off like they
0:27:15didn't see it that's a great scene
0:27:17yes but it's to your point I will
0:27:19concede the fact that whatever he is
0:27:21forced to act with a human being is not
0:27:23choice right it it is like well
0:27:26lose-lose got a bit of the tub specialty
0:27:29usual on solution especially when he's
0:27:31acting with his his mother the scene
0:27:33where she's just yelling at him because
0:27:35he has lied to her about going to
0:27:37Harvard Harvard yeah he's just he's got
0:27:42this weirdly detached grin on his face
0:27:45that may be very uncomfortable if he
0:27:48were to take her seriously she's
0:27:50screaming i wish i had died because he
0:27:53isn't an engineer and Lady you are a
0:27:56horrible horrible but really really one
0:27:59of history's worst monster I didn't
0:28:01stress that enough but I was totally
0:28:04unaware that being in a frat was a
0:28:05stepping stone on the road to
0:28:07engineering every single engineer i have
0:28:09ever known has done it completely wrong
0:28:11well don't be so here the things you
0:28:13didn't know about fraternities back in
0:28:14New garrix time right and this goes this
0:28:16piece of the age problem in this movie
0:28:18which is a they show that fraternity and
0:28:21I think why are there those the the
0:28:23champions of industry
0:28:24maybe these men in suits in the in the
0:28:26fraternity house because they all look
0:28:28like they're 30 at least at least Gary
0:28:32Cooper is 41 playing be kid it hit the
0:28:35plate some 120 years his junior yeah
0:28:38yeah the girl that he meets is Myra
0:28:41sheet that actresses is in her early
0:28:43twenties at least but so many of those
0:28:45frat boys there are frat boys in the
0:28:47background who are young looking but
0:28:49then the main ones all seem like they're
0:28:5140 i think to make Gary Cooper well they
0:28:54yeah they do that throughout the movie
0:28:56because all the Yankees have receding
0:28:58hairlines yeah everybody's just way
0:29:00older than that they should be but it's
0:29:02weird because babe ruth is playing
0:29:05himself 20 years earlier yeah mhm yeah
0:29:09it wasn't that fat then so that is that
0:29:11is that is weird
0:29:13um maybe I i do like they have the guy
0:29:16who is the exemplar of classes and was
0:29:18like well you could let him in but don't
0:29:20expect me to call him brother which is
0:29:21sort of like that is Dax lets his heart
0:29:23yeah that's as hardscrabble upbringing
0:29:25that he's not respected as a son of the
0:29:28the lady who is the the cook and also is
0:29:31the son of a son of immigrants and he's
0:29:33distracting to me because he looks like
0:29:34one-third of andy richter but it is nice
0:29:40to see him get his comeuppance she does
0:29:41enjoy seeing him tackled he doesn't
0:29:43there's a ramen and then he tells off
0:29:45the Yankee Scouts who comes to look for
0:29:47it was just so mad at that point I just
0:29:49wanna go through the door through the
0:29:50window
0:29:51I I know I know Phil we talked about how
0:29:53baseball reference's the worst thing
0:29:54ever because you immediately if you're
0:29:55in baseball there like like you and me
0:29:57you look up the world series they played
0:29:59against the cardinals in there there
0:30:00were two and one of many one of the
0:30:02middle austin yeah i did that did this
0:30:03happen and they hit the home runs and
0:30:05that's totally not true i had a few
0:30:06other moments like that like uh when he
0:30:09want wally pip pip has a terrible
0:30:12blinking problem that have to take him
0:30:14out because you're seeing double from
0:30:15when he got hit my head the other day
0:30:16and Gehrig is inserted at that point and
0:30:20then has hit in the head by a ball in
0:30:21the same game this is like weeks or
0:30:23months of time that has been compressed
0:30:27lou gehrig was on the Yankees for a
0:30:29couple years before you or at least for
0:30:30a year before he took wally pip spot in
0:30:33the middle of the season so that's not
0:30:34really an displayed sporadic
0:30:36I need and it wasn't his first at-bat in
0:30:38this is like Gary get in there is like
0:30:39Oh me okay
0:30:41like he's never played before and I
0:30:42think throughout the movie they seem to
0:30:44misunderstand the idea that Lou Gehrig
0:30:46for the consecutive games record did not
0:30:48have to play every inning
0:30:50yeah and when they take him out it's
0:30:52like oh my god it's an amazing moment
0:30:54Lou Gehrig's coming out this is the end
0:30:56of the streets like know he could come
0:30:58out at any point it's the next day when
0:31:00he doesn't play that it's the end of the
0:31:01streak
0:31:02it's very strange that was weird and I
0:31:04also thought it was weird for as much as
0:31:07this movie praises lou gehrig I felt
0:31:11they could have made a bigger deal about
0:31:12how he was incredibly good at baseball
0:31:15yeah that's true because i didn't get
0:31:17that impression he was the best first
0:31:19baseman in the history of the game ever
0:31:22yeah nobody who knows i know nothing
0:31:25about baseball I mean I know so much
0:31:26nothing about baseball that up until
0:31:28like a year and a half ago I thought the
0:31:30Dodgers were still in Brooklyn because
0:31:31my only experience with them they're
0:31:33from movies from the forties let me tell
0:31:35you about this thing called the
0:31:36designated hitter role Erica and said
0:31:38dude hello your biology he is not only
0:31:42the best first baseman ever probably by
0:31:44most accounts but certainly top 20 and
0:31:46maybe top 15 best players of all time
0:31:48yeah yeah they didn't show that they
0:31:49just showed him hitting the ball
0:31:51everyone because it because in this
0:31:52movie it's a home run hitting contest
0:31:53but they're not well that the elephant
0:31:56in the room here is that Gary Cooper for
0:31:59being strapping individual was not a
0:32:02very athletic individual and he was
0:32:04right-handed and left-handed which lou
0:32:06gehrig was and so showing him actually
0:32:11trying to perform the sport of baseball
0:32:14who was not a good thing that said he is
0:32:16not this is not the worst betrayal of an
0:32:20e an actor trying to portray an athlete
0:32:22and in certainly a baseball movie that
0:32:24honor goes to tony Perkins in the movie
0:32:27fear strikers Alex out where he plays
0:32:29jimmy piersall and it and it's actually
0:32:31a pretty good movie for its time about
0:32:34mental illness jimmy piersall had spent
0:32:38actually time and uh what was in those
0:32:41days known as an asylum because he he
0:32:43just cracked under pressure but the
0:32:46scenes where a tony Perkins is forced
0:32:49do athletic endeavors you sit there
0:32:52watching party went mad if he's been
0:32:55running like that it's just such a weird
0:33:00way for this this movie to be plotted
0:33:01for a baseball movie you expect you know
0:33:04when the the whole tanglefoot he trips
0:33:06on the bats kind of thing happens you're
0:33:08going to be paid off with a scene of him
0:33:10hitting like a gigantic home run and
0:33:12everybody shares wow maybe we were wrong
0:33:14about this chump and that just never
0:33:16happens you know he's a chump basically
0:33:18and suddenly and all these awards this
0:33:20by the way this movie is montage happy
0:33:23no it is somebody from the eighties I
0:33:25love I was like hey but i just don't
0:33:27understand best investing and monetize
0:33:30ever i think is the scene where at about
0:33:32an hour and 40 minutes in we get the
0:33:34scrapbook scene where it goes my
0:33:36community get off at some point in this
0:33:38film to CBU things that have transpired
0:33:40I I that moment where I thought why is
0:33:43she why she was why are we spending so
0:33:44much time the scrapbook and then I
0:33:45realized that then at the end of that
0:33:47scene she starts looking the pages and
0:33:49we move forward in time because that's
0:33:51how you learn miller huggins is dying
0:33:52yeah we're gonna we're gonna move to his
0:33:54did to lose death now so we're done with
0:33:56this the rest of this stuff suffice to
0:33:58say he had a great career one of the
0:33:59best ever and now we'll move on to the
0:34:01end
0:34:02suffice it to say we sure as hell are
0:34:03going to show it to you nope i had left
0:34:05earlier there's a montage that I enjoy
0:34:07because of the technique involved
0:34:09because it's showing that he played
0:34:10baseball which again probably wait what
0:34:13I think my favorite my favorite of all
0:34:15of the montages I mean it's a once again
0:34:17talking about movies movies from the
0:34:18forties you get a lot of the sort of
0:34:20montages of of headlines or you know the
0:34:23the light up names outside of bars if
0:34:26somebody's going on a bender that sort
0:34:27of thing
0:34:28and here i like the fact that they
0:34:29didn't repeat themselves any of the
0:34:31times they did it so the first time you
0:34:32get headlines the second time you get a
0:34:34bunch of flags the third time you get a
0:34:36lot of jerseys and then at the end it's
0:34:38a scrapbook so i have to give props to
0:34:39the movie for for thinking up new ways
0:34:42to do it every time I enjoy the jersey
0:34:44montage that the way the journey jersey
0:34:45montage work was Stadium jersey of of of
0:34:49other team crowd shot railroad tracks
0:34:52like that because it's cool to see the
0:34:55old stadiums dont't on
0:34:58that's playing in the back yeah its head
0:35:00and of course if it hadn't been so long
0:35:02they wouldn't have had to think of so
0:35:03many different ways to do montages but
0:35:05that one man's life where you instantly
0:35:08structure this like a regular sports
0:35:09movie because until the very end at no
0:35:12point is he an underdog
0:35:14that's right now it's true he's on the
0:35:171927 Yankees in the nineteen
0:35:19thirty-eight years what do you do with
0:35:21that I feel like they could have taken
0:35:22the wally pip story and made that a
0:35:24little bit more where he's like learning
0:35:25from pip and he's he's you know
0:35:27pinch-hitting and he's going to you know
0:35:29get back to the minors and coming back
0:35:31up and trying to learn and then he has
0:35:32his moment but instead it's like Wally
0:35:34PIPP he comes to the team's you should
0:35:36watch Wally PIPP and then wally pip
0:35:39blinks a lot and says I gotta come out
0:35:40and said it couldn't let go about and
0:35:44you accept all about pip because that
0:35:46Wally PIPP thing is that it i mean
0:35:48that's a legendary story that the guy is
0:35:50the first baseman for the Yankees four
0:35:51years and then he one day because he's
0:35:53got this problem because I got hit mad
0:35:55he sits down he never gets his job back
0:35:56because Lou Gehrig takes because he's
0:35:58that good but but that drama is kind of
0:36:00missing here other than I mean literally
0:36:03is just Gary get in there and the rest
0:36:05is history
0:36:05so what I'm hearing Jason is that you're
0:36:07proposing a wide sargasso sea only told
0:36:10from the perspective of what we have
0:36:12little garrix not so good about it how
0:36:17did Wally PIPP feel about this because i
0:36:19only you get your job back we don't stop
0:36:21being injured
0:36:22yeah a yeah I think he made a bit of a
0:36:25meal of it on the on the rubber chicken
0:36:27circuit Nolan stories about oh yeah I
0:36:31had the most expensive headache ever
0:36:32don't be like me you know fans whatever
0:36:35you do don't admit you have a concussion
0:36:37kids know what are we not gonna talk
0:36:40about Walter Brennan is I really think
0:36:42we'll begin to search results are all
0:36:44right
0:36:45Phil's Walter Brennan quarter i love
0:36:47that scene on the beach which also i was
0:36:48amused by their their use of floating
0:36:51devices to demarcate the difference
0:36:53between the sand it was in the studio
0:36:55and the rear projection although the
0:36:57best removing all i have to say this is
0:36:59the when the motorcycle stop the car
0:37:01yeah because i can't believe it is
0:37:03literally the baby wheeled motorcycles
0:37:04out next to the car with it and then
0:37:06they just turn off the projector
0:37:07actually coast to a stop but at no point
0:37:11is there anymore
0:37:12movement or suggestion that anything is
0:37:13Israel they're betting on the beach
0:37:15I liked the Walther present miss you
0:37:16said pops out and he's like hey
0:37:19everybody what are we doing today
0:37:21take a little bit of a third wheel there
0:37:22and they're like no nothing we're just
0:37:24having a great time being married
0:37:25because our marriage is great and Erica
0:37:27mentioned a scene where where Teresa
0:37:29Wright tricks Walter Brennan to think
0:37:31that that lou gherig has betrayed her
0:37:34and is having an affair when really he's
0:37:36just playing baseball with the
0:37:37neighborhood kids but all the rage that
0:37:39slicker some runs Walter Brennan face
0:37:41it's it's it's actually disturbing we
0:37:44can live several minutes and watching
0:37:46him build up to his justice by lou
0:37:48gehrig all people why I'm gonna go get
0:37:50them and I'm going to punch that guy
0:37:52he's clearly a person who is frightened
0:37:54of silence because that guy does not
0:37:56like five seconds go by without starting
0:37:58up another sentence
0:37:59oh yeah it doesn't seem like the press
0:38:00box must have been exhausting oh yes
0:38:02it's between him and uh uh the the other
0:38:06guy is a mystery machine looky area
0:38:08Madison we can well be pretty mia is how
0:38:12he talked but he probably shut up about
0:38:14that after like one season of Lou
0:38:16playing Robert Lee yeah but they kept
0:38:19they kept going on and kept going to
0:38:21keep that bit because you have to have
0:38:23drama you had to have something but also
0:38:25floors me about this movie is that it
0:38:27was a co-written by Herman mankiewicz
0:38:31yeah dude who but a year earlier was
0:38:34co-creating that a little student film
0:38:36called Citizen Kane yeah whatever
0:38:40happened to that guy looks nice know
0:38:41somebody got a career idea never been a
0:38:45lateral move
0:38:46I don't I don't think this is I don't
0:38:48think this is a bad movie I think I'll
0:38:50just know it's not a bad movie uur it's
0:38:53of its time it has a whitewash of a a
0:38:56figure who has a a few dramatic elements
0:39:00in his life that aren't i think
0:39:03particularly well told because instead
0:39:05it wants to be a standard forties kind
0:39:09of romance biopic so you spend a lot of
0:39:13time with things that are a lot i think
0:39:15less interesting in terms of hulu gary
0:39:17was as a person and a lot more time with
0:39:19you know or instead of the time with the
0:39:22stuff that really made him unique and it
0:39:24is of its time i mean it is
0:39:25speaking Italian I felt it was other
0:39:27than that it would tell the little bit
0:39:28long it felt completely inoffensive to
0:39:30me but it also didn't ever jump out it's
0:39:33you know it's a romance with that
0:39:36happens to be about the baseball player
0:39:37you kind of point out that the reason
0:39:39that i enjoyed I I also don't think that
0:39:41this is a super great movie or anything
0:39:42and i had definitely had some problems
0:39:44with it but it's very very much of its
0:39:48time and like I said this is my favorite
0:39:49era of moviemaking so just watching a
0:39:51film with sort of these these rhythms
0:39:54and beets and just this style made me
0:39:57feel very comfortable and while Stephen
0:39:59was getting more and more bored actually
0:40:01was building his lego baseball stadium
0:40:03off appropriately because he couldn't be
0:40:05bothered didn't watch two hours and
0:40:06eight minutes of it i thought--like it
0:40:08goes down easy it is a little bit long
0:40:10but its its pleasant in what it does
0:40:12especially if you get into the rhythms
0:40:13of this kind of a this kind of error on
0:40:15this kind of weather for two hours and
0:40:16eight minutes past surprisingly quickly
0:40:18until I said thought about it and
0:40:20realize nothing happened in that time
0:40:22yeah I don't know it's it's it's closin
0:40:25and you know I mean I grew up in the
0:40:26Yankees house so you know whenever it
0:40:29showed up on TV but I like there was a
0:40:31legit my well-knit I'm innocent I I'm
0:40:34you know I have nothing to do with this
0:40:36I was absorbed into Yankee stage he was
0:40:38a hostage you put it that way and see my
0:40:40father would watch it my step-brother
0:40:41would watch it they can quote it
0:40:43verbatim i mean i've seen it you know
0:40:45this is actually the first time I've
0:40:46ever seen it without commercials so it
0:40:48was actually short and well you know it
0:40:51and it always reminded me you know the
0:40:53more watched and watched movies from the
0:40:55period it always reminds me of night and
0:40:57day which is the the biopic of cole
0:41:00porter who similarly you know he just
0:41:02sort of fell into everything and had
0:41:03success and was great songwriter and all
0:41:05that and then a horse fell on him and
0:41:07broke his legs and that kind of threw
0:41:09off the rest of his life and so he had
0:41:11one tragic thing but of course the movie
0:41:13doesn't tell anything about his life
0:41:15really it doesn't tell anything remotely
0:41:17true but it's got a lot of musical
0:41:19numbers and it's great and it's the same
0:41:21kind of you know he's such a great guy
0:41:23but did it have village and Yolanda
0:41:26doing oddly enough they did a baseball
0:41:28sequence in the middle of that
0:41:29you know it's kind of it's less a movie
0:41:33and more just a giant moving pedestal
0:41:35but yea standing up on ya i think i
0:41:37would have liked this movie more with a
0:41:39worse actor because if you're going to
0:41:41make it more about how great Lou Gehrig
0:41:43is and you make Gary Cooper do it
0:41:46there's not a lot I mean he is that is
0:41:49Gary Cooper easiest yeah I trying to
0:41:52think you would cast if you're making a
0:41:531942 I'm saying make it interesting
0:41:57let's throw Cary Grant in there and see
0:41:58what happens rapidly plays that
0:42:00character ssa make it interesting as the
0:42:03suave lose at least he'll have some sort
0:42:06of inner life which I never thought this
0:42:08lou gehrig ever did
0:42:10mm and it's it's like that Joe Montana
0:42:12SNL sketch work he has no subtext
0:42:15everything he thinks he says yeah yeah
0:42:18you know there's one other thing that we
0:42:20should say uh Steven maybe do homework
0:42:22for this he sent me an article about the
0:42:24myth that they reversed every scene
0:42:27think Gary Cooper was playing
0:42:28left-handed and which is totally not the
0:42:30case there are absolute lie couple of
0:42:31scenes that way this this article was
0:42:33insanely long and very much scarily
0:42:36welcome to the baseball nerds
0:42:38yeah wow I didn't know how creepy you
0:42:40guys were same as the old nurse
0:42:42yeah I I wasn't even gonna bring that up
0:42:44Erica because it is hit it to fall so
0:42:47much did you know that I'm ready right
0:42:50okay i read some of that article so I
0:42:52feel I seems larger portion
0:42:54yep i am john there's an article
0:42:57explaining what day each external shot
0:43:01was done in which stadium at the very
0:43:04stadiums yeah yeah
0:43:06oh there I mean a lot of it was shot at
0:43:08Wrigley Field in California
0:43:09understanding in for all the different
0:43:11fields
0:43:12go figure right but they had they had
0:43:14some nice shots of up stands and yes
0:43:17interesting aspect and it probably had
0:43:20just enough of a scoreboard that
0:43:21somebody was able to go to retro sheet
0:43:23figure out all the details
0:43:25yeah this was between innings six and
0:43:27seven of them
0:43:28so to sum up III think this is it's a
0:43:32very good example of a picture that you
0:43:34would make in the nineteen forties that
0:43:36I forget who said it that goes down easy
0:43:40yeah it's not met yeah it's not gonna
0:43:43a trouble you too much you're not going
0:43:45to be terribly bored though you will
0:43:47look back and say my god this is two
0:43:49hours and again i think the the closing
0:43:53scene pax pax a bit of a punch so it's
0:43:56it's a for what it is it's a it's a
0:44:00pretty enjoyable flick we and that's
0:44:03what you walk out of the you know in
0:44:04theory you walk out of the theater with
0:44:06is that last punch again you know what
0:44:09more do you need
0:44:10so apparently the studio was totally
0:44:12wondering that last shot
0:44:14they won't do a thing where he walks and
0:44:16hugs Teresa right and instead of the
0:44:19current shot is just him walking into
0:44:21the shadows and didn't respond to
0:44:23comments for someone shouts play ball in
0:44:25the background it's a terrific seen that
0:44:27it's up to you to know that he died a
0:44:29couple years later and didn't just walk
0:44:31around on a crutch for 15 years right
0:44:33you're set yeah they already expected us
0:44:35to know that he was a great baseball
0:44:37player without showing us so why don't
0:44:39you assume that too
0:44:40yeah I like although I i actually
0:44:42thought that the the movie was going to
0:44:43end on the previous shot because there's
0:44:44also a really nice shot where he wants
0:44:46from from the mic and he walks toward
0:44:48the dugout and the camera just stays
0:44:50there and waller and smaller and starts
0:44:53to disappear and I was thinking to
0:44:54myself wow that would actually be a
0:44:56great last shot that he just walked into
0:44:58the dugout is gone in the and and then
0:45:00instead they kinda like oh they cut and
0:45:02then you see what it is which is that
0:45:03shadowy hallway and he disappears
0:45:06completely into the shadows and they say
0:45:07place actually almost the same shot
0:45:09yeah yeah the dissidents I had the same
0:45:11same sort of experience i was very
0:45:13disappointed when they cut from that
0:45:15shot from from him walking into the
0:45:17dugout side like always a great ending
0:45:18and then they did it again i said okay
0:45:20well it's really a great ending yeah
0:45:21yeah to do it twice
0:45:24directed by sam would who directed the
0:45:26Night at the Opera I'm previous
0:45:28selection forget old movie closing so
0:45:30many old movies now it's amazing
0:45:32yeah Ford movie by got a few notes i
0:45:35gotta bleed off as is my wat i have to
0:45:37have to call out in a very early scene
0:45:39where yung Lu is a is playing in the
0:45:42sandlot he there's go ahead the allow it
0:45:47yes the the younger boys the other boys
0:45:49I think they what they require them to
0:45:50pay
0:45:51in baseball card and paste in baseball
0:45:53cards just to play and you know he sets
0:45:57up in the batter's box and I think
0:45:59there's a single pitch and he swings and
0:46:02then roughly half a second later about
0:46:0510 feet behind him the a ball is clearly
0:46:08shot out of some sort of cannons and
0:46:12disappears into the middle distance yeah
0:46:14was that you know you would think you
0:46:16could get a kid to actually hit a ball
0:46:18it's something you would think in the
0:46:19making of this film but yeah speaking of
0:46:21that scene where you get a ball and
0:46:23broke a window that's it that's okay
0:46:25because Sandlot baseball is played
0:46:27nearer offices story and I thought it
0:46:31was weird that actory yeah I thought I
0:46:34thought it was weird that men columbia
0:46:35athletic director's office also had a
0:46:39windows are you saying that they don't
0:46:41field
0:46:42well that's how they can tell they're
0:46:43good prospect i read some bit of trivia
0:46:45there that said that that was that was
0:46:47one of the bit of apocryphal things
0:46:49about this problem is that is not in
0:46:51fact hovering a few feet over the
0:46:53baseball time a little bit of artistic
0:46:55license there there's a line that that i
0:46:58have to mention because it feels
0:47:00strangely low for this otherwise dramas
0:47:03film it's what we have to do kill you to
0:47:06get you out of the lineup yeah yeah I
0:47:08was wondering how that stayed in the
0:47:09script yeah I have that I have that line
0:47:12written down with like 10 ! that really
0:47:16wow for didn't write you want that after
0:47:21its cold you know another thing that I
0:47:23found quite disturbing was when they
0:47:25refer to Eleanor's father mr. Twitchell
0:47:28as the hot dog king is when everybody
0:47:29knows that Roman is the hot dog king of
0:47:32chicago sausage king of Chicago i'll
0:47:34have you know well sausages hot it's a
0:47:37subtle but very important is it so very
0:47:39much difference
0:47:41welcome to sauce attract anything had
0:47:43two kings have negotiated for
0:47:45generations to have to separate their
0:47:47their empires last thing i want to
0:47:50mention is the the goodbye speech which
0:47:53is generally pretty awesome throughout
0:47:56the entirety of it there's this really
0:47:57grainy process shot of babe ruth's face
0:48:00yeah bottom like cut eventually but he's
0:48:03there for a long time
0:48:04I'm behind a microphone just it's
0:48:06terrifying and he's a scary guy
0:48:09yeah I like Babe Ruth throughout this
0:48:10movie but that part is weird I i do like
0:48:12Moby I just you know that guy was a he
0:48:15was a character and it comes through
0:48:16that he's a character even though it's
0:48:18you know old babies playing in paper if
0:48:19you had some swell hats babe but this
0:48:21one is top yeah uh-huh that's the last
0:48:27withdrawal being a hat okay i'm watching
0:48:29an awful lot of movies from the thirties
0:48:31and forties and I've never seen anybody
0:48:32eat a straw hat before is that a thing
0:48:34that's to show that they're just big
0:48:36kids that's the sort of thing actual
0:48:37fraternities would do when they weren't
0:48:39sitting on flagpoles okay then you're
0:48:42saying terrible things about the poor
0:48:44yeah practice also known as the same
0:48:48kind of boobs is Gary yes that baseball
0:48:52fans are the same kind of boobs carry em
0:48:55that's all
0:48:57yeah I don't think the final speeches
0:48:59nearly as echo is everyone acts I think
0:49:01they may be thinking of the actual
0:49:03reaction of the actual pieces before the
0:49:04Super echoing the actual speech has lots
0:49:07of that whoever whoever did this sound
0:49:09design for this new there needed to be
0:49:12stadium echo but wanted to be audible so
0:49:14yes but there are places where it's not
0:49:17when they show crowd shots
0:49:18surely all you hear is the echo and you
0:49:20can actually hear what he's saying in
0:49:22those parts which I found kind of us
0:49:23really unimportant parts and i like that
0:49:25the the the cop in Chicago welcomes
0:49:28himself into the mansion so that I love
0:49:31that scene that is such a 1940 see we
0:49:34can witness the parish proposal he just
0:49:36brings you don't need me anymore
0:49:39yeah this movie is not paying a great
0:49:40picture of police work know how you're a
0:49:43baseball player
0:49:44come on boys the law don't apply to you
0:49:47Lou every police car is driving Lou Gary
0:49:49to the stadium
0:49:51it was a simpler more innocent time it
0:49:53was it was rocks are above the law
0:49:56that's really the moral of this tale
0:49:57yeah cops were more corrupted we like it
0:50:00that way and i love the in the the
0:50:04panoply of nuanced accents that make up
0:50:06this film the Irish cop at the beginning
0:50:09is pretty good super super areas
0:50:13yes i would also like to point out that
0:50:16that pop gherig has a lovely cameo in
0:50:19Casablanca 00 i enjoyed pop carry a lot
0:50:22yeah i'll pop characters yeah he stayed
0:50:24out of this horrible wipes way
0:50:26yeah good work up gary is good and he
0:50:29does his best to explain that two young
0:50:31one point maybe she makes a complete
0:50:33hash of it
0:50:34mog eric is terrible but pop Gehrig's
0:50:37okay is it right now and i spent a lot
0:50:39of this film kind of disappointed
0:50:40because I I think you first mentioned
0:50:42this character when we were talking
0:50:44about Nick vu
0:50:45yes and and so I was expecting this an
0:50:49accent that would just you know shatter
0:50:51my eardrums with its awfulness and the
0:50:53the accent isn't really the point you
0:50:55know I guess it's really more the
0:50:56character yeah yeah I should have I
0:50:58should have been more straightforward
0:51:00yeah that's alright that's my fault i'm
0:51:03not going to get no ceremony Yankee
0:51:05Stadium thats future oh some Yahoo seems
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0:53:16so back to the action well let's move
0:53:19ahead 35 years yes let's go ahead to a
0:53:23film about is a diametrically Posey and
0:53:27Derek story as one can be and still be a
0:53:30movie how do i I don't think the the
0:53:34word scabrous can be used and how to
0:53:37describe motion pictures quite the way
0:53:41it would describe the bad news bears
0:53:42which is a I just think a delightful
0:53:49commentary about sport and childhood and
0:53:54how adults ruined everything
0:53:56my yep yeah and it I everytime i watch
0:54:01this movie I think off the bad news
0:54:02bears this is this is gonna be okay and
0:54:05then i watch Messick my god this is a
0:54:07great picture it is it really is
0:54:09considered maybe one of my top 5 this is
0:54:12the time I watch it I everything about
0:54:13this movie is so fantastic from the
0:54:16screenplay to the direction the acting
0:54:18it is it is so good anyhow I should
0:54:22probably summarize the movie as quickly
0:54:24as possible
0:54:25there's a very competitive little league
0:54:27team in southern a little league in
0:54:29Southern California a do-gooder city
0:54:32councilman Sue's so that everyone can
0:54:34participate in and all the cast offs are
0:54:39thrown into this one
0:54:40team which is managed by Morris
0:54:42Buttermaker who is played by what Walter
0:54:46Matthau out and the only reason he's
0:54:48apparently doing the gig is because he's
0:54:49being paid handsomely to do it
0:54:51he's a washed-up minor league baseball
0:54:53player he's a high-functioning alcoholic
0:54:56although high-functioning might be give
0:54:58our duel too much too much credit
0:55:00yeah yeah whatever introduced to him
0:55:02when he pulls into the Little League
0:55:03parking lot at dawn reaches into the
0:55:05cooler in his backseat cracks of
0:55:07budweiser drains off the top couple of
0:55:09ounces and pours in some jacket and I
0:55:11want to back up there because i think
0:55:12that is one of the greatest opening
0:55:14shots in the history of the most
0:55:15beautiful you got this beautiful shot of
0:55:18a little league team practicing on the
0:55:21field and it is just this slice of
0:55:23Americana and they're doing drills and
0:55:26such a this junker car pulls him and
0:55:30it's walter matthau with his hangdog
0:55:32expression and he porks about the
0:55:35budweiser that is his grab from the
0:55:37cooler in the back seat of his card but
0:55:40even in the nineteen seventies violating
0:55:42all sorts of a big container grabs for
0:55:46the bottle of Jim Beam the the Bourbon
0:55:49you choose when you really hard
0:55:51particular about bourbon or is it into
0:55:53his that risk is now empty can of
0:55:56budweiser grant is all
0:55:58yeah that's flavor country no that's a
0:56:00great shot because then sets up the
0:56:02entire approach of this movie and we
0:56:05kind of know everything we need to know
0:56:06about Buttermaker at that point I don't
0:56:08think we do yet because we still have at
0:56:10this point we've only seen him drink one
0:56:12brand of beer
0:56:13yeah he the best that he's always
0:56:15drinking something different like he
0:56:17just wanders historic grabs whatever is
0:56:18closed when he got rainier flips
0:56:20whatever let's go i'm just drinking beer
0:56:22well the obvious explanation for that is
0:56:24he bought whatever was on so yeah I've
0:56:26literally has he clearly has a favorite
0:56:28brand because there are three places
0:56:29where we see Budweiser
0:56:31yeah but throughout the film he's
0:56:32drinking budweiser Mickey's big mouth
0:56:35miller high life let's yep there's a
0:56:37there's a scene where he actually puts
0:56:39the beer back before drinking it we
0:56:40don't get to see what brand that is then
0:56:42he's on Pabst Blue Ribbon Budweiser
0:56:44again more Budweiser and then in the
0:56:46championship game he's drinking coors
0:56:48though in the bottom half of the 60
0:56:50transitions to lucky lager
0:56:52and there's actually a point where he's
0:56:53drinking a lucky in a bottle on the
0:56:55bench but then he stands up moments
0:56:56later and it's turned into a course in
0:56:58the kinda and even in the team photo at
0:57:00the very end he as a beer it's just it's
0:57:02it's fantastic and anything is if you've
0:57:04ever dealt with alcoholic and
0:57:06particularly a poor outcome you you've
0:57:10seen that there's there may be a
0:57:12favorite brand there but it's very
0:57:13rarely in rotation because the the ANP
0:57:17only has one beer on sale right
0:57:19everytime i watch bad news bears i am
0:57:24surprised because in my head because of
0:57:27the first time I saw it it's about kids
0:57:30playing baseball
0:57:31yeah right and then I watch it I go
0:57:33alright this is about water bath out
0:57:35right well I'm i saw this movie so many
0:57:38times as a kid on TV and so it came off
0:57:41to me as just a it's a funny baseball
0:57:43movie for kids
0:57:44yeah oh it is so not for kids because
0:57:47the end this thing is that they they
0:57:48trimmed it down the edited for
0:57:50television and they took out pretty much
0:57:51everything that was you
0:57:53objection intellectuals have so much
0:57:56stuff that I never noticed back then
0:57:58that the fact that they it completely
0:58:01I completely missed the fact that they
0:58:04only have a team because some a-hole
0:58:05politicians sued yeah in the first place
0:58:08he doesn't care enough to manage his
0:58:09sons team he paid or even talk to the
0:58:12games until until the very end of the
0:58:14area no one shows up at the games i
0:58:16think there's a chance
0:58:17all of these kids are orphans I never
0:58:22understood why Tatum O'Neal calls him
0:58:23boilermaker throughout the film and that
0:58:25of course makes more sense now out of
0:58:27the one of the funny things is that
0:58:28everyone calls him by the wrong name
0:58:30using butter waterworks all-butter crud
0:58:34x 10.5 well the Tanners got a thing
0:58:40a boilermaker as you say and there's
0:58:42this like a bunch of other x squared
0:58:44people just totally calling the wrong
0:58:46name no no one gets out to our forests
0:58:49butter
0:58:50perhaps most important that the fact
0:58:54that the team moms and the coaches are
0:58:56so absolutely awful completely
0:58:58completely went over my head back that
0:59:00and and how much they clearly hate the
0:59:03intrusion of butter maker and this
0:59:05politician on their little baseball
0:59:06fiefdom yeah and that that all rings so
0:59:09true laughs as anybody who's ever dealt
0:59:11was because apparent now or just any
0:59:13kind of like parenting situation right
0:59:15now even the people in the office who
0:59:16have to update the standings are furious
0:59:19that repaired even if ya wanted that one
0:59:21of the objections that the league
0:59:24manager starts complaining about just
0:59:27almost to the point of Mania is then now
0:59:30it's an odd number of a league-low I
0:59:32understand that complaint you can we
0:59:35want everyone to play each weekend right
0:59:37and you can't do that with an odd number
0:59:39of teams somebody has to have a buy one
0:59:41get an A Team could have a that's why
0:59:43everybody hates me so so here's my
0:59:45background I played Little League
0:59:46baseball in the seventies and my team
0:59:49was in fact where the rejected players
0:59:52went to play yes and we were terrible in
0:59:55four years of organized baseball
0:59:58we won two games that were
0:59:58we won two games that were
1:00:00that one year three and one here for
1:00:02first two years they were no wins
1:00:04I i we we were we were the bad news race
1:00:07and in fact when I was i want to say
1:00:09first grade the manager who was not a
1:00:13parent but for some reason had
1:00:15volunteered to manage us offered all of
1:00:17the first graders on the team and
1:00:20probably second-graders to a pinch of
1:00:22his chewing tobacco because that's what
1:00:27baseball players did and so I i watch
1:00:29this movie thinking oh and I I i don't
1:00:32think i've seen it before if I have I
1:00:34haven't seen it since it was the edited
1:00:36for television you know many many years
1:00:38ago and I I had a moment of thinking oh
1:00:40my god they made a movie about the team
1:00:44that I was on it except there was no
1:00:46there was no turnaround where we got
1:00:47good players and at the end to make it
1:00:49to the finals
1:00:50we were just terrible the whole time and
1:00:52um and so that was one whole layer where
1:00:55I thought oh my god this is I I totally
1:00:57know the story and I can identify with
1:00:59it and then as a parent of children who
1:01:01have been in organized sports for awhile
1:01:03i also got to witness all of the things
1:01:06about how in the end all of the kids
1:01:08just want to play and the grown-ups are
1:01:11terrible people who have completely lost
1:01:14perspective on why these sports exist so
1:01:18I loved it but I also feel like i-i've
1:01:21lived both sides of it now in my life
1:01:23and so it also really kind of touch me
1:01:24that it was I've seen this before I I
1:01:28never tore off all of my uniform clothes
1:01:31and climbed up a tree but I thought
1:01:33about doing it was a beautiful I I
1:01:37should probably can conclude that the
1:01:39plot of this mature way we can do the
1:01:42one yeah yeah we started it he pulls
1:01:45into the parking lot of these tricky
1:01:46writing
1:01:47ok so the scroll his team is terrible
1:01:49and damon runyon as a scroll of the
1:01:51industry boy what a terrible time this
1:01:54is team this poor be the simple and he
1:01:59goes good the practices and it's your
1:02:01typical
1:02:02sports movie montage of poor athletes
1:02:06paint poor athletes they play their
1:02:09first game against the Yankees who are
1:02:11the best team in the league and a side
1:02:13note here this is made in 1976 and at
1:02:16the time it had been 12 years since the
1:02:19yankees had been any any damn good of
1:02:22the the major-league Yankees and yet i
1:02:24still like the fact that they're all the
1:02:26the the most awful thing about sports is
1:02:30the Yankees so that they play against
1:02:35the Yankee's it's such a humiliating
1:02:37loss that Buttermaker actually forfeits
1:02:40the game it's 20 don't even get an
1:02:42at-bat know it's 22 nothing at one point
1:02:44and they're about to disband the team
1:02:48and something in butter makers three
1:02:50sizes too small heart says and maybe i
1:02:53should actually go through the motions
1:02:54of of of teaching them how to play
1:02:56baseball so I just point out that in
1:03:00modern not a kid baseball you have a
1:03:02limited number of battered parading so
1:03:04there's a mercy at all yes well there's
1:03:06a limited like you can you can only bad
1:03:08around at most levels and then the
1:03:10inning is over whether you got me out on
1:03:12that team or not but precisely because
1:03:14this would happen otherwise all the time
1:03:16all the time so II begins to drama
1:03:22little bit more and they're a little
1:03:25less terrible those still awful and so
1:03:28what
1:03:29Buttermaker does at this point is the
1:03:31first person he seeks out is the
1:03:33daughter of a lady who used to date he
1:03:35taught how to pitch he's played by Tatum
1:03:37O'Neal this is her first picture that
1:03:39she need after winning Best Supporting
1:03:40Actress for paper moon
1:03:43she's great she is sasha's has to get
1:03:46his movement just great
1:03:47IMDb has some of the least surprising
1:03:49trivia ever other actresses they
1:03:51consider kristy mcnichol and jodie
1:03:53foster haha yum you basically the other
1:03:56two
1:03:56yeah and apparently sarah jessica parker
1:03:59but Jodi fostered said no I'm gonna go
1:04:02make taxi driver
1:04:03oh that was a good choice and um kristy
1:04:06mcnichol apparently got the part and
1:04:08then they said now let's split we can
1:04:10get Tatum O'Neal so sorry
1:04:12Tatum O'Neal
1:04:13is basically a tomboy who doesn't want
1:04:16to be a tomboy anymore but she's being a
1:04:18tomboy and you can throw she can throw a
1:04:21curve that breaks two feet and so she's
1:04:24sucked into the movie though not before
1:04:26she negotiates with Buttermaker to
1:04:29basically find her ballet lessons and
1:04:31modeling classes she's selling star maps
1:04:34that's a nice detail to she's sitting in
1:04:36a lawn chair by the side of the road
1:04:38selling the maps to the stars homes when
1:04:40he goes to talk to her i love that but
1:04:42which is another great character
1:04:43introduction now I mean the movies full
1:04:46of those so good and then the other
1:04:48addition to the team is a Kelly leak the
1:04:51coolest kid in school who is played by
1:04:53the watchman's jackie earle haley i know
1:04:55i love that my wife was physically
1:04:58repelled by Jackie her it would rip this
1:05:01he knows what she knows what he's going
1:05:04to grow up to become this this this this
1:05:07for audition ami yeah let's not forget
1:05:11he also played Freddy Krueger he was one
1:05:13of the cutters and breaking away
1:05:15Breaking Away where he's kind of gross
1:05:17quite frankly he's pretty repellent in
1:05:19this as well I mean there's that they
1:05:21negotiate the the terms of the air hot
1:05:23on one point
1:05:25yeah and and she she's she specifies
1:05:28that if if she wins the game that he has
1:05:30to play for their team and a so he says
1:05:33well what if you lose and she says name
1:05:35it and there's this grid creeps across
1:05:37the face that is the creepiest because
1:05:40then it turns out all he wanted was to
1:05:42go to a Rolling Stones concert with her
1:05:44and she's furious
1:05:45even though I'm pretty sure the rolling
1:05:46stones were a good concert in 1976 yeah
1:05:49yeah very good concept in 1976 but my
1:05:52favorite part of that that little
1:05:53negotiation if she goes back to the car
1:05:55after she's lost and Walter Matthau how
1:05:59how to go and then and he says I lost i
1:06:02have to go to roll instant concert movie
1:06:04with them and and math was just a
1:06:07plastic and now if he tries to get fresh
1:06:10with you do this and she says who do you
1:06:12think you are my father and wishes on
1:06:14your god damn manager and I that is that
1:06:17is one of the best exchanges in the
1:06:19movie because it perfectly encapsulates
1:06:21the relationship between those two
1:06:24yeah let's seems like that makes me
1:06:25wonder what Tatum O'Neal's me
1:06:27other thinks of all this now is
1:06:29saturated math out for about two years
1:06:31yeah clearly she doesn't have a lot of
1:06:33and now he's back in her daughter's life
1:06:35yeah I see was apparently sad when he
1:06:38left them the broker heart so that gives
1:06:40you an idea of what I think a lot of the
1:06:44the walter matthau Tatum O'Neal reunion
1:06:47was done on the Qt suppose my mother mom
1:06:50because I don't think she would have had
1:06:52get objected and later on in the movie
1:06:54we find out the Tatum O'Neal negotiates
1:06:56that mom should come to the game to
1:06:58watch and maybe go out on the date with
1:07:01Walter Matthau afterwards but we're
1:07:02getting ahead of ourselves because it
1:07:05reads almost like they're a divorced
1:07:07couple and yet she is his his daughter
1:07:10she actually is it done and that's not
1:07:11in the story but you might as well
1:07:13portrayed it that way then yeah he's
1:07:14coming back into her life in order to do
1:07:16this and and they have to negotiate the
1:07:18presence of the mother at the last game
1:07:21and in fact in there in the remake from
1:07:242005 which we may or may not talk about
1:07:27after this she not she actually is his
1:07:30daughter haha but is so anyhow Kelly
1:07:35leak played by the watchman's Jackie
1:07:38Earle Haley the question our Shack not
1:07:41the question i forget i don't i don't
1:07:43know if you kind of excited that funny
1:07:47books is the question
1:07:49oh he uh uh he is not going to join the
1:07:54team but then he is bullied by the
1:07:56manager of the yankees and he decides to
1:07:58join the team isn't a few to the more oh
1:08:01yeah it was never played a likeable
1:08:03character in any movie I've ever seen on
1:08:07yeah he's so unlikeable visits great he
1:08:09has no most magnificent of bastards in
1:08:11this year's every bad parent
1:08:14kodad kids sports team of any kind
1:08:19yeah all rolled into one it's amazing
1:08:21and yet you
1:08:23yeah you hate him so with it a decent
1:08:25picture and a decent player the Bears
1:08:28finally start winning games
1:08:31they move up the standings and they
1:08:33somehow wind up into the championship
1:08:35game with the with the FR mentioned
1:08:37Yankees and on at the same time Walter
1:08:42Matthau becomes less of the easygoing
1:08:44beer-swilling a fun dad that he was and
1:08:48more of the demanding come on you kids
1:08:51this is what you wanted kind of terrible
1:08:53parent and it all sort of culminates in
1:08:57the in the championship game where both
1:09:00he and Vic Mauro apparently are having a
1:09:03a dick contest to see you can be bigger
1:09:05one and Walter Matthau potentially sees
1:09:11oh god I'm being horrible and just sort
1:09:14of cracks himself a beer and says hey
1:09:16kids i'm going to put in all the
1:09:17terrible players now and if we win we
1:09:20win if we lose we lose and as it turns
1:09:25out they lose but there's a there's a
1:09:27wonderful moment at the end where the
1:09:29Yankees give sort of a heart
1:09:30half-hearted well you guys showed heart
1:09:33and you're okay by us and Tanner Boyle
1:09:36who is the scrappy fight seeking
1:09:38shortstop because it was about three
1:09:40foot tall if this movie
1:09:42he says you can take your apology and
1:09:44your trophy and and and shove it up your
1:09:47ass and then and it is also one of the
1:09:51few children's movies that features a
1:09:53full-scale brawl which i think is just a
1:09:58wonderful moment again movies that's
1:10:01basically want to see these kids punched
1:10:03at this point yeah oh yeah everyone is
1:10:05punching and i should i should mention
1:10:07that in the vista to go for full circle
1:10:10and Vic Mauro his sons the start picture
1:10:13on the yankees his son wants to strike
1:10:15out the fact catcher uncle Bert the
1:10:19worst bear the thinner
1:10:21yeah Erica knows when I'm talking about
1:10:24my far and the most all can't even get a
1:10:27jersey that for now that fits he's awful
1:10:30and he's giving the finger to the
1:10:33picture and the picture wants to strike
1:10:34him out and but the dad says hey Vic
1:10:38Mauro says hey walk this kid instead he
1:10:40throws at his head and Vic Mauro and
1:10:42rage walks out
1:10:44and smacks the half-life and asked his
1:10:46son all haha
1:10:48knocks him down as Maxum so hard its
1:10:50silent
1:10:51yeah and and she creates a yeah it is my
1:10:55god it is it is a devastating scene in
1:10:59what has previously been an uproarious
1:11:01comedy that that in the scene where
1:11:04Walter Matthau throws the beer at the
1:11:08head of tatum o'neal when she's
1:11:09suggesting that he and his and her mom
1:11:13get back together again and he says God
1:11:15if I wanted to get back together I would
1:11:17have looked you up two years ago and
1:11:18that was there so many scenes here where
1:11:21where Matthew know as a reprobate he's
1:11:24he's he gets so angry and he's clearly
1:11:26teetering on the brink of violence and
1:11:28hold himself back at the last minute we
1:11:30actually my wife and I counted how many
1:11:32times a walter matthau curses and
1:11:34children in this movie and it is
1:11:36innocent the double digits yeah it's
1:11:38delightful
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1:13:01and thank you so much too well front for
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1:13:06nice things about this is that Vic
1:13:08Morrow scene where he where he boils
1:13:10over and and smacks his son on the mound
1:13:13at this point in the movie
1:13:15things have gotten you know they go up
1:13:18and down but it's really like continuing
1:13:19to crank up the bad behavior especially
1:13:21the parents you know and you kind of
1:13:23forgive it because it's simmering there
1:13:25it's like it's bad you're like ok these
1:13:27people are bad it's a commentary on it
1:13:29they're behaving outrageously but you
1:13:30know it's still funny and I'm gonna
1:13:32laugh at it and then Vic Mauro hits this
1:13:35kid at and that's the moment and then
1:13:37it's silent and that's the moment when
1:13:39you realize not only is this I'm
1:13:40acceptable but lots of other things that
1:13:42you kind of let go are also unacceptable
1:13:44leaving right this is a really great
1:13:46moment when there's still a bit of grip
1:13:48that's still a bit of crescendo left
1:13:50yeah we're math math was continuing to
1:13:52spiral out of control even after seeing
1:13:54this and then he gives his don't you
1:13:56want to beat those bastards speech and
1:13:58then and then that scene there we get
1:14:00close-ups of all the incredulous players
1:14:03totally silent yeah and then you get
1:14:04this lingering shot of Matthew and you
1:14:06see that the dawning realization of he
1:14:10knows what he's becoming up is so damn
1:14:12good he almost looks like he's going to
1:14:13cry there
1:14:14yeah and it's it's just that it's a
1:14:16heart-rending and wonderful moment
1:14:18because that's when he realizes he needs
1:14:19to pull it back and and put in the case
1:14:22you haven't played yet let them play
1:14:24even though it means they're gonna lose
1:14:25the game
1:14:25yeah the moral of this movie is that you
1:14:27have to care slightly more about winning
1:14:30than zero so Buttermaker has to learn a
1:14:33little bit at the beginning of the movie
1:14:35but you should not care a whole lot
1:14:37about winning yet you care
1:14:39I think about thirty percent otherwise
1:14:41your monster in either direction and of
1:14:43course that we should point out that the
1:14:45movie ends with after they've lost
1:14:47Buttermaker handing out beers 211
1:14:49it's still great and then the parents
1:14:51are just hoisting their kids around they
1:14:53clearly don't give a damn that the kids
1:14:54are toting beers this is probably the
1:14:56first game any of the parents of
1:14:57attended and the one person you express
1:14:59concern is all their cameras here we
1:15:02told this
1:15:03yeah that's that's a big concern that's
1:15:06what's the politician of course the one
1:15:08that's concerned about it so that one
1:15:09kid's been riding a motor
1:15:10cycle without a helmet the whole movie
1:15:12my was things were done with the nature
1:15:15of the day as opposed to when the entire
1:15:16team is writing in Buttermaker scar
1:15:18without me seatbelt as he's drinking
1:15:21yeah yeah yeah that's okay too it's
1:15:23worth mentioning that this that if there
1:15:25ever was a movie they've got growing up
1:15:27seventies just right yeah it's totally
1:15:29this one is I mean from the from Little
1:15:31League night at the pizza hut really
1:15:33should be a Shakey's but you know close
1:15:35it's whatever your God you know the
1:15:37scene in the arcade is great where
1:15:38there's nothing behind but pinball
1:15:40possess base invaders didn't come out
1:15:42yet
1:15:42yeah also also I enjoy the fact that the
1:15:45Yankees have sponsored by dennys and
1:15:47Danny's got its own promotional
1:15:48consideration credit in the movie and I
1:15:51reply I just imagine the executives at
1:15:53dennys going sit watching the screening
1:15:55of this movie good we did not agree to
1:15:58play sponsored by we sponsor the team of
1:16:01the man who strikes a child i noticed
1:16:03chico of chico's bail bonds was smart
1:16:05enough not how it is maybe that is a
1:16:06beautiful setup the the UK because it's
1:16:09just natural that these kids have
1:16:11danny's on their backs and these kids
1:16:13have pizza hut on their backs and then
1:16:15because because I Buttermaker has had to
1:16:18sell his own sponsorships to get the
1:16:19uniforms chicos bail bonds on the bits
1:16:22oh that's a good joke i don't i don't
1:16:24know if that's the greatest visual joke
1:16:26in the history of movies because it is
1:16:29the top 10 it's especially great about
1:16:32that is that it's he gets the uniforms
1:16:35and hand them out to the kids several
1:16:36scenes before that yeah they could have
1:16:38taken the opportunity right then to tell
1:16:40that you but they wait and it's subtle
1:16:42because you don't see even remotely a
1:16:44bit of the back of the uniform but you
1:16:46don't even think about it because it's
1:16:48just it's played so well they don't do
1:16:50any of those camera tricks that make it
1:16:51very clear that they're not showing you
1:16:52the back and who could this be it just
1:16:54it just comes up later and then you
1:16:56laugh could just be showing us these
1:16:57kids lined up and ready to go and also
1:16:59I'd i believe they show that during the
1:17:01National and as the nationally out of
1:17:03this being something they smoke they
1:17:04show all the sponsors of the teams and
1:17:06there's chicos bail bonds
1:17:08there's a lot of scenes like that works
1:17:09there doing the Pledge of Allegiance and
1:17:11and Walter Matthau was reading the
1:17:13Pledge of Allegiance because he doesn't
1:17:14know yes and
1:17:16and you look at modern day baseball
1:17:18where they interrupt games for to play
1:17:21God Bless America and you think boy the
1:17:23bad news bears was ahead of its yeah
1:17:25yeah one of the things i think really
1:17:26makes the Chico's bail bonds joke land
1:17:28is that they do a different joke first
1:17:31because they told you all of the good
1:17:33colors are taken and that means that the
1:17:36badges bears end up with yellow and
1:17:38white
1:17:38yeah which is kind of cool if you look
1:17:41at the final game there are people in
1:17:42the stage wearing yellow and white
1:17:44mhm they've got a fan base yeah but you
1:17:47think because they've done the joke will
1:17:50see they got the bad colors there's not
1:17:52another job coming there is Erica you
1:17:55are you are not a you're a 40 movie fan
1:17:58and not a huge baseball fan what was
1:18:00your take on the bad news bears i am
1:18:02also not a fan of movies from the
1:18:04seventies to sort of in general i'm
1:18:07gerry was that racist decade for movies
1:18:09huh you guys thought that the pride of
1:18:13the Yankees was long i felt like this
1:18:14this to me you even though it's only a
1:18:16hundred two minutes felt at least half
1:18:18again as long while as pride of the
1:18:20Yankees it just just that style of
1:18:22filmmaking where everywhere you get a
1:18:24reaction shot from every single
1:18:26character in strong words from Canada
1:18:29just it just doesn't where there are a
1:18:32lot of reaction shots of every
1:18:33Samaritans reaction show everything just
1:18:36stretches out it just feels so so kind
1:18:39of gradient and realistic and that is i
1:18:42like the the shiny happy 47th nobody's
1:18:45naturalistic and nobody reacts in the
1:18:47nineteen forties so they just accept
1:18:49what happens on speed and there's a
1:18:52musical number dammit where is the music
1:18:54/ bad news bears everyone is gross in
1:18:56nineteen seventies much so just like
1:18:58everyone in the nineteen seventies see I
1:19:00don't want that I've experienced you
1:19:02know a part of the nineteen seventies
1:19:04and Phil thinks i think this whole movie
1:19:06was shot with natural light but there's
1:19:09a lot of shots like no natural light
1:19:10doesn't actually show up in butter
1:19:12makers handed anyone that may be the way
1:19:19it does look III it looks and i'm going
1:19:23to take this based also on what Erika
1:19:25said I think this movie looks great but
1:19:28it looks great in the sense that it kind
1:19:29of look
1:19:30gross i ng it is the rng fit is a
1:19:33seventies I mean it he has got that
1:19:36crappy car the AA it you know it is it
1:19:40it feels very seventies to me but any in
1:19:43a nostalgic away because a lot of movies
1:19:45from the seventies are in portraying
1:19:46things that I didn't experience when I
1:19:48was a kid in the seventies but this this
1:19:50is something i did experience and it was
1:19:52just like this the only difference
1:19:53honestly is that where I played peewee
1:19:56baseball there with the field didn't
1:19:59have grass all we had was dirt we
1:20:01practiced on dirt i do want to make it
1:20:04clear though that I I recognize all the
1:20:06things you guys are saying and I I
1:20:07understand why people like this film so
1:20:11I'm not saying it's terrible it's just
1:20:12very much not for me however i really
1:20:14liked the end I had never seen it before
1:20:16I never actually saw this film so I was
1:20:18expecting when Walter Matthau outputs in
1:20:21the lousy kids i was expecting that
1:20:23somehow they were gonna pull it out and
1:20:25they were going to win and I was like
1:20:26this is terrible this is teaching the
1:20:27wrong lesson but then they lost and I
1:20:30was like all right you know what I'm I'm
1:20:31kind of on board with this movie now I
1:20:33appreciate this so the right lesson then
1:20:34is when you take second place throw your
1:20:36pitiful trophy and curses and have a
1:20:39beer
1:20:40let me let me let me lay a truth bomb on
1:20:43you they actually filmed two endings and
1:20:47this is it is the right thing
1:20:49this is according to both of the actors
1:20:51who played Toby andrew d steyn they they
1:20:55get it two ways that Kelly leak is
1:20:57called out at the plate and Kelly leak
1:20:59is called safe at the plate and the
1:21:03actors the kids didn't actually know how
1:21:05the movie edited and they tested the
1:21:08films and audiences did not really like
1:21:11the one with the Bears win
1:21:13good for them I daresay that would ruin
1:21:16the entire film yeah
1:21:17yep the director Michael Richie took
1:21:19some of the kids out for dinner before
1:21:21the before the premiere and said hey so
1:21:24here's how the movie you made actually
1:21:26ends and they're all yeah makes sense
1:21:28and yeah and i think i like y'all's aids
1:21:32it's it would not have been a good movie
1:21:35if the bad news bears win that game you
1:21:37know if they win the morale of the movie
1:21:39would be even a bad team can win
1:21:42if they get enough ringers Yeah right
1:21:44right button that's one of the problems
1:21:46with this movie is the fact that two
1:21:48ringers one good picture and one good
1:21:49hitter is really not enough to overcome
1:21:51the handicap of the rest of the team
1:21:53well you don't know that because they're
1:21:55so bad in the first game because of the
1:21:57pitching
1:21:58yeah right like really really Stein is
1:22:00really bringing that team down like one
1:22:02of the things i like about the movies
1:22:04that it honors the baseball side of it
1:22:05we're clearly their biggest flaw is
1:22:08their inability to pitch so you bring in
1:22:11a good picture somebody to learn to
1:22:13curveball at nine so she's definitely
1:22:15gonna need elbow surgery at some point
1:22:16right
1:22:17shortly after this movie it looks like
1:22:19yeah immediately after the last day here
1:22:22in fact admittedly they do show that the
1:22:24other kids have learned to hit around
1:22:26the CMYK Goldberg can can hit only could
1:22:29have hit in the first game just they
1:22:30never got too bad it didn't forget about
1:22:32and Ahmed can can can hit ya i don't
1:22:36like the same lupus catches that ball to
1:22:38send it to the bottom of the knife
1:22:40yes like in wkrp in cincinnati yes
1:22:42that's your that's your big victory
1:22:44moment right there
1:22:45that'sthat's to compensate for you not
1:22:47seeing the team win at the end you at
1:22:48least see lupus lupus caches of all that
1:22:50wonderful happy moment where they all
1:22:52run out and celebrate Lucas's catch
1:22:54probably more violently than they would
1:22:55celebrate actually winning the game so
1:22:57can i point out how fascinating this
1:22:59movie is in the sense that it has all of
1:23:02the code all of the sudden code words
1:23:04all of the words that are derogatory
1:23:06toward other races young and the team is
1:23:10remarkably diverse the only diverse team
1:23:14the team is being gay boy they put they
1:23:16put the Mexican kids and the black kid
1:23:18on this team
1:23:19then if they've got their share of
1:23:21indistinguishable blonde kids to they do
1:23:24there are some yeah but an appointment
1:23:27because that one is the politicians kid
1:23:29who for some reason couldn't get into
1:23:30another team they all hate him
1:23:31baby sucks yeah he seems quite
1:23:33indispensable read more on who naturally
1:23:35would not be on another team elsewhere
1:23:37and ahmad he's got a he's got an aha
1:23:40moment at one point that's really funny
1:23:43this is for Allah and it's going way out
1:23:45this sucks okay yeah pretty much
1:23:48yeah it was Miss direction when he was
1:23:50first introduced to me that I want to
1:23:52play where Hank Aaron played in my head
1:23:53I'm like oh Claire Wisconsin
1:23:55my dad feeling better Hank Aaron plane
1:23:59and one who wouldn't work generally and
1:24:01then he pulls off all of his all these
1:24:03uniforms when he's at me and he climbs
1:24:04up in the tree which is great and
1:24:06without goes and gets them
1:24:07hey this is nice for baseball near that
1:24:09I am I I actually spent much of sunday
1:24:11morning this week thinking about well
1:24:14would a child idolizing 1976 if they
1:24:18were if they were 11 years old and and
1:24:22and I i thought yeah probably Hank area
1:24:24most likely Reggie Jackson yeah I felt
1:24:27like a mod didn't get a lot of screen
1:24:29time but his story was picked up and
1:24:32expanded for the character of Willie
1:24:34Mays Hayes in baby yeah I guess what he
1:24:37wants to be a power hitter but really he
1:24:40should be hitting the ball on the ground
1:24:41running it out
1:24:42he's a little Brock tight yeah I also
1:24:44like the aguilar kids
1:24:47no yeah they are they're great and and
1:24:49they're there are several moments where
1:24:51they just say things in spanish and they
1:24:53kill me
1:24:53it's it's so fun and Tanner's response
1:24:56when they're they're talking about Kelly
1:24:57leak and the kid says something
1:24:58incomprehensible in Spanish and he says
1:25:00I don't know what he's talking about
1:25:01what I like it was also an orange like
1:25:03this of diet Diablo like that and if i'm
1:25:07gonna use can't leave to be believed in
1:25:10the trivia section of imdb.com of those
1:25:13kids spoke a look a spanish really
1:25:17really yeah i know they they spoke
1:25:19English perfectly that may have to be
1:25:21taught spanish right and and then you
1:25:22get the idea delfin with yeah we'll be
1:25:24doing well where he's just so small that
1:25:26they can't they just have to walk him
1:25:28because you can't pitch to that kid
1:25:30that's only that but it's funny because
1:25:32then you've got the foul-mouthed kid who
1:25:34is who is you know probably repeating
1:25:37from their parents every horrible awful
1:25:42thing you could say about people of
1:25:43other races and they and they almost and
1:25:46they turn that around to it's like well
1:25:48they're all on our team so it's a it's a
1:25:52it's fascinating to me that that it is
1:25:54both so just like giving the kids beer
1:25:55at the end it's tough to it that a movie
1:25:57would not do today I think and it's and
1:26:00it's uncomfortable and yet I really the
1:26:03only the only film our or our creative
1:26:06endeavor that could get away
1:26:07that is south park and that's because
1:26:09they're animated spread em
1:26:11have you guys seen the movie kids by
1:26:12harmony Kareem ok we have a may have a
1:26:16big Hollywood production ok studio yeah
1:26:18something else that I don't think a
1:26:20modern movie would do today at least not
1:26:22a modern movie like this that's
1:26:24ostensibly a comedy aimed at kids is I I
1:26:27think it's one of my favorite things
1:26:28about the movie it's the fact that this
1:26:30at least in large part is kind of a tale
1:26:33of redemption for Buttermaker but it's a
1:26:35really minor Redemption yeah i mean he's
1:26:38not really
1:26:3915 it's not it's not like a league of
1:26:41their own where he like stop drinking
1:26:44and no why are you still a drunk and you
1:26:47get that they're gonna keep drinking it
1:26:48when he yeah i mean he's still sitting
1:26:50in the dugout drinking course in that
1:26:51championship not given any hands up
1:26:53here's to the kids to track them what
1:26:54drag them down to it's a story of a guy
1:26:56who doesn't care anymore becoming a guy
1:26:59who who cares
1:26:59yeah right nothing else is repaired in
1:27:02him but he goes from being he is totally
1:27:04disaffected he's not he's not talking to
1:27:07to a ceremonial anymore to Amanda he is
1:27:13just cleaning pools he's only doing this
1:27:15gig because he's getting paid by the
1:27:17city councilman or whatever and then by
1:27:18and and and he starts to turn was like
1:27:20no no we're going to play anyway but by
1:27:22the end he's like he's got the proper
1:27:24perspective about like letting the kids
1:27:26be kids
1:27:26he's got the perspective that the
1:27:27parents of all the other teams don't
1:27:29have so he's got out he he cares and he
1:27:32likes those kids that's his progression
1:27:34the rest of his life is a shambles but
1:27:37that is a progression for him and that's
1:27:39a reasonable progression it's not you
1:27:41know it and a modern movie would have
1:27:42him completely turn around and do that
1:27:45yet league of their own yeah he'd get a
1:27:46new job by the end of the movie right
1:27:48right i will say this for the bad news
1:27:50bears though it was it was more a movie
1:27:52about baseball than pride of the Yankees
1:27:55is that we want to thank you later so
1:27:56hostile is more movie about baseball
1:28:00is that this is a movie about bad
1:28:02baseball players for the most part so
1:28:04you just have the kids actually do their
1:28:05thing I thought that was good to the the
1:28:08portrayal of the than playing baseball
1:28:10was was I thought fairly accurate and as
1:28:12i said in the series of tweets to fill
1:28:14while I was watching it
1:28:15they had defensive shifts and the kids
1:28:17studying the the the scoresheet and
1:28:20talking about the stats so that they
1:28:21totally totally Moneyball movie too i
1:28:23love the defensive shift where they're
1:28:25like the kid gets up there always hits
1:28:26to left field and and Buttermaker just
1:28:28like go go over there and there's like
1:28:30five kids in the field that was great
1:28:32that was really funny you know weirdly
1:28:34enough considering how I feel about
1:28:36baseball
1:28:37the baseball scenes were actually my
1:28:38favorite part of this movie if they
1:28:39would have trimmed out all the
1:28:40relationship stuff in just one more
1:28:42baseball i think i would have liked it
1:28:43you see you've guessed encapsulated my
1:28:46feelings about grow older term which I
1:28:49love the baseball scene in that movie
1:28:50and I hate everything
1:28:53oh my goodness but that's not a movie we
1:28:56saw
1:28:56now that's that is not the movies I know
1:28:58asleep during both of our moms later but
1:29:00I yeah but member jmo goofy i really
1:29:04like that nobody makes fun of him for
1:29:05knowing everything about baseball
1:29:07no use for them yeah knowing these
1:29:09things and he's basically the assistant
1:29:11manager one of my favorite shots of the
1:29:13movie is when amanda has has thrown her
1:29:16curveball a whole feature insta-buck
1:29:19maker does this very elaborate handshake
1:29:22like good job boss he was my favorite by
1:29:28fire oh yeah oh he is the best bear that
1:29:31turned to Stephen I was like I like that
1:29:33guy is the greatest I mean I i watch
1:29:35when i was little i saw the sequel's
1:29:37which don't want terrible kind and
1:29:40patient there are not even here there is
1:29:42a 3-bedroom no Matthew no sale man I
1:29:47even watched the TV show version which
1:29:50is also yeah it's ok it's passable at
1:29:52the same time and Ogilvy is the best
1:29:54part of that two totally different actor
1:29:56but Tanner Tanner gets my bad i love
1:29:59Tanner every line is hilarious just like
1:30:02the way overly is introduced as he's the
1:30:05kind of kid who knows everything
1:30:08who knows a baseball player knows that
1:30:11Hank Aaron played second base no one
1:30:13knows
1:30:13thank you to the listening audience in
1:30:17case you're young before we had
1:30:19baseball-reference nerds had to memorize
1:30:21a giant hardbound book the baseball is
1:30:24always liked it yeah yeah speaking of
1:30:26which baseball nerds that are nerdier
1:30:28about baseball than me the story that
1:30:30that Buttermaker tells up in the tree to
1:30:32a mod about Hank Aaron having I guess a
1:30:34rough season or some point he was
1:30:36nine-years-old total bullcrap
1:30:40I sort of assumed that was a fake story
1:30:42because that's kind of a moment where
1:30:43Buttermaker starts to turn around and
1:30:46realize that he's easy i have some
1:30:48redeeming qualities left to give
1:30:50yeah so it's a wonderful moment in the
1:30:53movie but it's it's it's Buttermaker
1:30:55locking through it's actually better
1:30:58that it is
1:30:58yes Father look it up there and there is
1:31:01a school of thought that says the bad
1:31:02news bears in breaking training which is
1:31:05the second movie is a passable
1:31:08entertainment
1:31:09no I don't know but I i disagree with
1:31:12that I do like they play game in the
1:31:14astrodome which is a lovely and there's
1:31:17the moment where all the fans chant let
1:31:19them play and then pulling and Tanner
1:31:22Boyle has this moment in the in the Sun
1:31:24if you like the Tanner Boyle character
1:31:26had no the the day certainly do not
1:31:30watch the bad news bears go to Japan
1:31:32when your mark Easter's are Tony Curtis
1:31:35from me just children we just slide and
1:31:39yep
1:31:39yeah Wow and they go to join after the
1:31:43title spoilers
1:31:44it's in the night yeah we already called
1:31:47out Vic Morrow for being so superb at
1:31:49being awful in this
1:31:51yeah I think I think joyce Van Patten
1:31:52deserves almost much credit yeah he's
1:31:54terrible has happened baby what is your
1:31:56problem really awful choose related to
1:32:00mama Gehrig and I think probably the
1:32:02best seed is where she comes out and
1:32:03presents that pitiful second-place
1:32:05treasure
1:32:06smarmy grin on her face I would like to
1:32:09briefly make a couple quick points1
1:32:11Engelberg is not that fat
1:32:13these days hmm ya see mi 617 all three
1:32:20boobies wild and offer a character whose
1:32:23only character trait is fat and always
1:32:25eating i want circus great fat he's also
1:32:27foul mouth that doesn't really stick out
1:32:30much
1:32:31ok mommy i'll give you he's no fat boy
1:32:34from greatest show on her i laughed out
1:32:37loud at the scene where they jump over
1:32:38the fence and he he just bites into the
1:32:41the candy and I think to myself
1:32:43do you just eat that with the Rambler
1:32:45member and then they'll be the great
1:32:47local PD says could you at least take
1:32:50off the record I kind of like the fact
1:32:53that on this team of rejects the reject
1:32:55who's that way because he's a geek is
1:32:56probably the least reject full of all
1:32:58hungry yeah and when they go to the
1:33:00ballet class he's eating an entire
1:33:01bucket of fried chicken himself but he's
1:33:04nice enough to offer it to one of the
1:33:06random ladies want to be yeah and that
1:33:08is my favorite Tanner Boyle moment
1:33:10you've talked about where the late Bell
1:33:12teacher says I'm trying to teach a class
1:33:14here you're not doing a very good job of
1:33:16it no one here can dance for bettors
1:33:18yeah yeah yeah yeahs that dance classes
1:33:21really not very good that it is bad and
1:33:23no deal is not particularly good idea no
1:33:25she's not she really should work on a
1:33:27curveball I also want to highlight how
1:33:30wonderful that Joey's revenge scene is
1:33:32where after he's been slapped to the
1:33:34mound his responses that it's one
1:33:37straight back to him and he just brings
1:33:38up all the cum batter thrown into his
1:33:41mitt yeah it's a mystery it's attacked
1:33:43with a brick wall out yeah yeah that
1:33:46that is a great moment
1:33:47Engelbert gets the inside the park
1:33:49homerun he still is still terrible is
1:33:52still the worst bear but I think that's
1:33:54gonna be scored as defensive
1:33:55indifference
1:33:56yeah maybe fielder's choice something I
1:33:59was for the first time watching this
1:34:01time was that in the end credits there's
1:34:03a section where they list the bears and
1:34:05there's actually a part that says the
1:34:06bears at the top and they have all the
1:34:08kids that they're on the team and butter
1:34:10maker and Joey Turner actually is
1:34:12included in that grouping he's
1:34:13considered a member of the Bears
1:34:15presumably because of his turnaround are
1:34:17you
1:34:17also a little a little thing that i love
1:34:20is that on the scoreboard this league
1:34:22has got nice printed signs for the names
1:34:24of all the TN the six core teams and in
1:34:26the scoreboard those those teams are
1:34:28always with their names on the signs and
1:34:30then handwritten in a scroll is better
1:34:33because they don't merit a sign
1:34:35throughout the season nobody ever said
1:34:37they might be back next week should we
1:34:39know
1:34:40nope no they're not even back in the
1:34:43final game people were leaving the
1:34:45stands during the last better
1:34:47yeah 20 lb traffic or so these are the
1:34:50better and help you gotta get to the
1:34:52dennys for the celebratory to enter
1:34:54their parents of the indigent in this
1:34:57they're all going to come out and drive
1:35:00everybody home you can stay for one more
1:35:03batter guys they're going to warm up the
1:35:05AC is hot out there to la la land was
1:35:08ours
1:35:08ya know northern san fernando valley is
1:35:10quite awful out there really no humanity
1:35:13lives in San Fernando Valley
1:35:15I love that last scene where the camera
1:35:17pulls back and and what we see is on one
1:35:20side we see the Bears all happy and
1:35:22celebrating and pouring beer on each
1:35:24other because they lost and on the other
1:35:26side you see the Yankees sort of quietly
1:35:27walking away with their gigantic trophy
1:35:29it's such a nice contrast yeah yeah i
1:35:33also just like that the White Sox are
1:35:35another team with problems like it's not
1:35:38that the bad news bears are awful
1:35:40everybody else is perfect the way tax
1:35:42couldn't even put together nine kids
1:35:43right someone had to go to a face some
1:35:46of them some of them had the flu some of
1:35:48them where the faith vent money you got
1:35:51a bit dodgy athletics the Athletics you
1:35:54know they're the worst team in the
1:35:55league
1:35:55well second word sends us i love letter
1:35:58yeah the source the source of this the
1:36:01name of this movie is it's really kind
1:36:03of sweep we're playing the Athletics
1:36:05what does that mean bad news for the
1:36:07Athletics that was really sweet I like
1:36:09one of things i enjoy again as a as a
1:36:12really awful baseball Kiku should not be
1:36:17having conversations with civilized
1:36:19human beings is it like really
1:36:22determining why they picked the team
1:36:24that got us the bigger pic pick the team
1:36:28names that they did because the
1:36:29Athletics are picked because
1:36:31in 1976 hey they recently won three
1:36:33World Series in a row and the White Sox
1:36:36and the matsuri are all teams and yeah
1:36:39and the Yankees of course of the Yankees
1:36:42so why not
1:36:43but but it just it's one of those things
1:36:47i find fascinating just like deciding he
1:36:51should really like Reggie Jackson as
1:36:52opposed to and Karen and erin was in the
1:36:54last year of his career in 97 may have a
1:36:56problem
1:36:57this yeah i understand that if you want
1:36:59to set up a team to be the bad guys just
1:37:01call him the yanks call me out there and
1:37:02it's easy to what i like is that they're
1:37:04all models on major league baseball
1:37:05teams and then the Bears are not even
1:37:07like know they're just there and there's
1:37:09team within the stupid hat with the bear
1:37:11on it and it's just it's like yeah I
1:37:13love that team photo that's used both in
1:37:16the in the credits and and earlier in
1:37:18the movie where we're butter makers hold
1:37:20his beer and ankle Bert can't be
1:37:23bothered to but not sure I can't button
1:37:27his shirt he's physically own column and
1:37:29separate now exactly such an awful team
1:37:32and yet endearing remains my scrappy
1:37:35they are like a whole team of David
1:37:37Eckstein oh except for heli codes
1:37:40claimed he was hitting 841 if I would
1:37:44walk him to it now absolutely but he's
1:37:47telling that to the to like 40 year old
1:37:49woman have dance class
1:37:50yeah he's trying to impress just like in
1:37:52pride of the Yankees if you're somebody
1:37:55tries to intentionally walk you you
1:37:56reach for that ball
1:37:58that's right yeah intentional walks are
1:38:00for suckers good movie
1:38:02yeah yeah that's fine it's really yeah i
1:38:04loved it actually yeah it's it's a
1:38:07really good one
1:38:08this has been an excellent addition of
1:38:10the old movie club i believe and a
1:38:12fitting for the beginning of the
1:38:14baseball season it's been a grand slam
1:38:16oh wow breakfast brought to you by
1:38:19nearby when you think of Jenny's think
1:38:25of a repulsive
1:38:27she just like I do it
1:38:30yeah moons over my hammy thinking
1:38:33getting your kids slapped in front of
1:38:35everyone
1:38:36Danny's for child apiece so many nice
1:38:39little details in this movie I like the
1:38:40Chico's Bail Bonds has a logo of the
1:38:42liberty bell with the crack in it and
1:38:44let freedom reign the motto is a good
1:38:46memory
1:38:49alright time to wrap up this edition of
1:38:53the old movie club Steve let's thanks
1:38:56for being here
1:38:57Jason tonight I consider myself the
1:38:59luckiest panelist on the face of this
1:39:00earth
1:39:01well put David Laura thank you babe all
1:39:05ok that's what I'm going off into the
1:39:09shadows
1:39:10yeah that's what we slice it into the
1:39:11air and very poignant I said weeping but
1:39:13what you couldn't see because this is a
1:39:15podcast is him walking up a job as
1:39:18alright it's exactly what you saw and
1:39:20there he goes into the tunnel mighty
1:39:22Ashley thank you i'm going to restrict
1:39:23my bad news bears group to just saying
1:39:25crud as all the other one thing i would
1:39:28probably get out would be good by you
1:39:33booger-eating moron done that and you
1:39:38didn't ya
1:39:39Erica and sign thank you for being here
1:39:40and watching movies from the forties in
1:39:42another movie that was gross and the
1:39:44other movie yeah I'm just gonna go back
1:39:46and do some scrapbooking in the jigsaw
1:39:48puzzle at this kind i think very nice
1:39:50it's going to be a scrap book that tells
1:39:52the story of Lou Gehrig's career that
1:39:53every awesome IRA compressing fresh
1:39:56flowers into your scrapbook by the way
1:39:58oh yeah maybe you can make a scrapbook
1:40:00about this podcast got a page about the
1:40:02time we talked about Gary again
1:40:04no but she does that then all of a
1:40:06sudden by the time she gets to the end
1:40:07of the year 2030 oh my god
1:40:10sure and one of us will die a horrible
1:40:11that's how time passes and movies is
1:40:13scrapbooks you kidding
1:40:15scrapbooks are the silent killer you
1:40:17think they really don't buy a calendar
1:40:19with a page a day that's cool yeah
1:40:21that's really well don't don't put it
1:40:23near fan where they might blow pages off
1:40:26oh yeah and Phil Michaels thank you for
1:40:29the selections these were excellent
1:40:30we'll have to come back maybe next year
1:40:32next season and do a a
1:40:35podcast about all the other many
1:40:37baseball movies that are out there but
1:40:38these were to excellence elections and I
1:40:40i enjoyed them both and i absolutely
1:40:43love the bad news bears so thank you for
1:40:45choosing them
1:40:46Jason I don't care if I ever come back
1:40:48foot and everybody out there happy
1:40:53baseball season thanks for listening to
1:40:54be uncomfortable we hope you enjoyed
1:40:56listening to old movie club will be back
1:40:58again with another one at some point if
1:41:00we don't die of old age between now and
1:41:02then
1:41:02thanks for listening goodbye
1:41:21the crack of the bat the roar of the
1:41:29crowd that's right baseball's back hello
1:41:31New York I'm bill McNeal join us opening
1:41:33day live from Yankee Stadium for all the
1:41:34action
1:41:35the boys of summer in wnyx a winning
1:41:38team