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0:00:00the incomparable number 241 april twenty

0:00:11years to play ball

0:00:16welcome back everybody to be

0:00:17uncomfortable i'm your host Jason L it

0:00:19is time for another episode of old movie

0:00:23club or muvico full movie clips where we

0:00:26watch an old movie and then or two or

0:00:28three or five and then we talk about

0:00:30them and to celebrate baseball's opening

0:00:33week we have picked to baseball movies

0:00:38so let me introduce my panelists David

0:00:41lure hello hello Monty Ashley thanks for

0:00:44being here

0:00:45hello Erica and sign batter up I know

0:00:48how much you love somebody who loves

0:00:50baseball

0:00:50I what I am just excited to be here when

0:00:53we're talking about a movie that was

0:00:55made in my preferred area of moviemaking

0:00:57so I'm threat that's true that's true

0:00:59well said Steve let's uh who voices the

0:01:02old movie club theme song hello hello

0:01:04there

0:01:05play ball Jason voices is the term you

0:01:09use and here as always the man who picks

0:01:13the old movies on old movie club the old

0:01:15man who picks the old movies on old

0:01:17movie club it's phillip michael oh thank

0:01:19you i feel like i never left

0:01:21indeed so what do you what do you have

0:01:24for us to explain yourself so so as you

0:01:26mentioned it's it's baseball season at

0:01:29some point soon when Morgan this is

0:01:32about it is the opening week will yes

0:01:35yeah baseball season is about to start

0:01:37or just started depending on when you

0:01:39are listening or started a long time ago

0:01:40if you listen to this late

0:01:42some teams are probably playing in japan

0:01:43for some reason right now would be so it

0:01:48got me thinking hey there's been a lot

0:01:49of movies made about baseball over the

0:01:51years some of them not so good some of

0:01:54them okay

0:01:55some of them I I kind of enjoy and and I

0:01:59i picked a couple tonight 1a 1a

0:02:02controversial pick under the under the

0:02:04definition of old movie which we can get

0:02:06to later but the other a a bit of a

0:02:09classic in terms of in terms of when it

0:02:13was made and the approach that the

0:02:16filmmaker took with we're going to look

0:02:18at pride of the Yankees from the

0:02:19controversial pick under the definition

0:02:21of movie

0:02:22Wow

0:02:24I get into that later 1942 his pride of

0:02:28the yankees and 1976 'as the bad news

0:02:31bearers let's start off with pride of

0:02:35the Yankees might have made age before

0:02:37beauty

0:02:38I have lots of us about that 152 and

0:02:41wrote some things down

0:02:43well let me I i will quickly go through

0:02:45the plot since basically it is the

0:02:47biopic of lou gehrig uh perhaps the

0:02:51greatest first baseman to ever ever play

0:02:53the the grand game uh and as I think

0:02:57Jason pointed out in in

0:02:59hit it Twitter tonight it is the the

0:03:03life of lou gehrig in real time because

0:03:05i don't remember the movie being this

0:03:08slow i don't remember but it it goes on

0:03:11for a little shade over 2 hours and and

0:03:14it feels like two hours

0:03:16I didn't think so oh well you'll get a

0:03:19chance to to rebut are cruel arguments

0:03:21later

0:03:22um yeah let me quickly just go through

0:03:25the plot because they there's not a lot

0:03:27of twists and turns here Lou Gehrig's

0:03:29born Lou Gehrig's born luke air grows a

0:03:32playing baseball lou gehrig goes to

0:03:33Columbia he's really good at sports

0:03:36he signs with the Yankees the Yankees

0:03:38are a really good baseball team and

0:03:40largely because of lou gherig has a

0:03:41little bit of a friendly rivalry with

0:03:44Babe Ruth please himself in the movie

0:03:46lou gehrig meets a nice girl the the

0:03:49lovely Teresa Wright one of my favorite

0:03:52actresses lou gehrig wins many many many

0:03:55awards he has a newspaper man who is his

0:03:58best friend and you never leaves his

0:04:00side and which when i'm sure we will

0:04:04talk about good old Walter Brennan who

0:04:06plays said newspaper man but then Lou

0:04:09Gehrig gets gets sick you might have

0:04:11heard of it Lou Gehrig's disease what

0:04:13are the odds and he on yuh the movie

0:04:17ends with him

0:04:18spoiler alert the other guys at the end

0:04:21now he doesn't have the walks he walks

0:04:23off the set once often actually really

0:04:26the maybe you haven't if you haven't

0:04:29seen Lou Gehrig the the pride of the

0:04:30Yankees you you've probably seen the

0:04:32ending

0:04:32yes because when this gets shown a lot

0:04:35and for good reason it's the best part

0:04:37of the movie is the most i think the

0:04:39most emotionally resonant part but I'm

0:04:42sure we'll get to that later one of the

0:04:44reasons a I let me back up for a second

0:04:48that this is a genre of movie that was

0:04:51very popular in the nineteen thirties

0:04:54nineteen forties and little bit into the

0:04:56nineteen fifties that the baseball hero

0:04:58biopic and generally speaking they're

0:05:03not great movies they're kinda all cut

0:05:05from the same cloth where it's the way

0:05:07work hard and eat your vegetables Jimmy

0:05:09and you can grow up to be like me one of

0:05:11the ones that really stands out for me

0:05:13as just an example of how mediocre and

0:05:17middling these are is a movie called the

0:05:18winning team which stars on a fellow by

0:05:21the name of Ronald Reagan who went on to

0:05:23other things

0:05:25yeah never heard of anyone to act with a

0:05:27chimp yes but enough about George Bush

0:05:29is great and accuracy was a president

0:05:35but he plays Peter Alexander in this

0:05:39movie who was a bit notorious drunkard

0:05:42and that that aspect of its touched on

0:05:47briefly as i recall it's been years

0:05:48since I've seen this picture but not in

0:05:50not in to the extent that Peter

0:05:52Alexander actually was a very a very

0:05:57severe alcoholic and instead it's ronald

0:05:59reagan and doris day and it's keep

0:06:00trying and Peter Alexander you'll get

0:06:02there soon and it-it-it it's not a very

0:06:06good movie there are a bunch of others

0:06:08that we could mention that are not very

0:06:09good movies pride of the Yankees i think

0:06:11is ok um and I think it's largely okay

0:06:14based on the performances of Gary Cooper

0:06:16and and Teresa right which is why I

0:06:18kinda picked it i think it's a good

0:06:20example of the best you can kind of hope

0:06:23for in a

0:06:24no a pre nineteen fifties baseball movie

0:06:28where this will certainly be the most

0:06:30earnest movie we ever picture for old

0:06:32movie club there is no winks or nods to

0:06:35the audience no hints at the darkness

0:06:37that lurks in every man's heart that

0:06:40this is just a straightforward

0:06:41old-fashioned let's put on a show

0:06:44and-and-and make the people leave with

0:06:48the maybe a tear in their eye but also a

0:06:50song in their heart about about what a

0:06:52great guy who Gehrig was and it's

0:06:55enjoyable you would've been more

0:06:56enjoyable if it were better paste i

0:06:58think but don't feel the word you're

0:07:01looking for is hagiography this is an

0:07:03elevation to godhood of the great Lou

0:07:05Gehrig yes awesome

0:07:07he was in all of the weight in every

0:07:10aspect of life you know I think a lot of

0:07:12the reason for that can be explained by

0:07:14the fact that this was 1942 you just

0:07:18mind as you read the oh he died later I

0:07:20year previously here a year before

0:07:22you're in a month in fact one of the

0:07:24baseball players that you know but the

0:07:27the live baseball players that they

0:07:29pulled in to be actors in this film was

0:07:30still active at the time right bill

0:07:32Dickey right bill Dickey yeah also a

0:07:35Hall of Fame baseball player but but

0:07:36yeah but the fact that it's 1942 and if

0:07:39you read the opening scroll it reads

0:07:40like hey young soldiers off to war die

0:07:43with dignity like lou gehrig yes indeed

0:07:46the one of the rare films that is that

0:07:49is that begins with a crawl written by a

0:07:52writer just not connected with the the

0:07:55story in any way

0:07:56Damon Runyon was a sports writer and a

0:07:58big big baseball cock and up that that

0:08:02is the most mundane damon runyon thing

0:08:04ever written he he's the author whose

0:08:07stories returned into guys and dolls of

0:08:10basically and and he you know it yet

0:08:14there's a streak of cynicism and his

0:08:16work that is not evident that crawl at

0:08:18their own the movie people in this world

0:08:20cynicism does not even exist

0:08:23no oh no well yes it does in the form of

0:08:25the evil of the evil reporter who is

0:08:29your friend actually throttles at one

0:08:31point another who is apparently a

0:08:34stand-in for Ford Frick who became the

0:08:36Commissioner of baseball

0:08:37that's another story what so altogether

0:08:41uh a confession i also picked this movie

0:08:43because it features two characters who

0:08:46were just I think monstrous and I really

0:08:50wanted to be honest this this with this

0:08:53one was for you Steve I'm gonna

0:08:57disappoint you i think phil the Walter

0:08:59Brennan character who is based on a real

0:09:02sports writer named friendly but and is

0:09:04a composite here but it's mostly

0:09:06friendly it was very good friends with

0:09:07lou gehrig and in this movie has I said

0:09:10never leaves Lou Gehrig's I lou gehrig

0:09:13is on the beach canoodling with his wife

0:09:15i have had Walter Brennan pops into the

0:09:18picture hey you how you doing here comes

0:09:21better but it's do yeah can you imagine

0:09:23a baseball player today going to the

0:09:25doctor to get his results and

0:09:27voluntarily bringing a reporter into the

0:09:29room and keep it out of the papers ok

0:09:31yes i will the reporter doing the whole

0:09:34we're gonna we're gonna cover this up

0:09:36no one's gonna find out the truth here

0:09:38and but yes so there's the Walter

0:09:41Brennan character and then the other

0:09:42great monster of history that is

0:09:44featured in this movie is mama Garrick

0:09:47oh yeah man yeah she was the only way to

0:09:50put any drama into the movie before the

0:09:52end so they just made her the worst

0:09:54person in the world

0:09:56yeah I i have a phrase in so we're sort

0:10:00of hopping around here i want my notes

0:10:01about about mrs. Gehrig what she has a

0:10:06great line where there is that series of

0:10:08scenes where she goes shopping with mrs.

0:10:10Geary which is not a thing you want to

0:10:12do and no improvement with mrs. Geary

0:10:15and at one point as they're putting up

0:10:18the wallpaper that she's just bought

0:10:19separately from what everybody else

0:10:21expressed as the wallpaper that they

0:10:23wanted in her son and his new wife's

0:10:25bedroom she says oh this is much better

0:10:28this is more practical wallpaper that me

0:10:30laugh out more practical wallpaper

0:10:34pattern

0:10:35ok and what you don't want that MC

0:10:38Escher wallpaper or that all paper that

0:10:40get put in non-euclidean angles and

0:10:42drives men bad it's simple but the issue

0:10:45wallpaper you might actually walk out

0:10:47the window or try to

0:10:48door to get a breeze or even among Derek

0:10:51is up

0:10:51yes she'sshe's problematic she is the

0:10:54key is the silent villain of this movie

0:10:56and men in many aspects you know they

0:10:58try and make a heel out of the out of

0:11:00the snide cynical reporter who's babe

0:11:02ruth's best buddy and who mocks lou

0:11:05gehrig every turn until of course lou

0:11:07gehrig is is is is sick and old but

0:11:10there's a Seltzer fight at one point

0:11:12there in their series of there is a

0:11:14Seltzer fight yes but it if you ask me I

0:11:18i really think mama Gehrig is this movie

0:11:20is true monster I can't get mad at the

0:11:23bad reporter because if you had your

0:11:24choice to follow lou gehrig around and

0:11:26get every story he feed you or follow

0:11:28babe ruth around and get every story he

0:11:30feeds you

0:11:31you're gonna get a lot more material out

0:11:33of paper and Alicia roof stuff is

0:11:35unprintable well you can do that thing

0:11:40about how we 815 hotdogs between its

0:11:42dripping

0:11:43that's right based on the evidence of

0:11:45this movie Lou Gehrig never did anything

0:11:47now

0:11:49well he went to come on a lot of awards

0:11:51and we played baseball

0:11:52yeah he was a great baseball player but

0:11:54you don't get the scoop to do to find

0:11:56that out any beat up a guy in this

0:11:57fraternity there was that

0:11:59yeah I died by flying across the day

0:12:01controversy and he was the apparently

0:12:03the oldest freshman at Columbia you here

0:12:05so get okay you just brought up several

0:12:07things that i want to talk about one of

0:12:08them is is that the challenge of a

0:12:14portraying a life that is fine

0:12:18yes again I like that they're so the

0:12:22relationship is his marriage is nice and

0:12:28they have a good thing they never let

0:12:30the honeymoon and right they say that at

0:12:31one point and at one point in my notes I

0:12:33say lou and his wife sure do have fun

0:12:35they wrestle with flowers and stuff and

0:12:40what is that wacky rose throwing fight

0:12:42seem forced oh man right it comes off

0:12:45like that snowball fight in Groundhog

0:12:47Day too many it's a challenge i mean

0:12:48again you don't have to have I mean most

0:12:50most marriages do not have movie level

0:12:53drama but they don't try to make movies

0:12:56out of those marriages and the this one

0:12:58there's a movie and they're just every

0:13:00time we see them it's like Oh

0:13:02they're nice it's fine that that's why

0:13:03mama gary i think is such a monster is

0:13:06because they gotta do something to

0:13:08complicate their their domestic life and

0:13:10it is the monstrous mother-in-law Lucas

0:13:13I didn't actually like i didn't i didn't

0:13:15actually I love to Risa right but I

0:13:17didn't like that character very much at

0:13:18all at the beginning because you that

0:13:20you can go through your hood

0:13:23not that I mean that's just big deal but

0:13:25Lou Gehrig is this he's just kind of a

0:13:27big sweet dumb dope and she at every

0:13:30turn is making fun of him and teasing

0:13:32him in kind of a not very nice way at

0:13:35the beginning she kind of gets over it a

0:13:36little bit but I don't know it seems

0:13:38like she does and then later she does it

0:13:39to Walter Brennan two tries to make him

0:13:41think that that lose cheating on her as

0:13:43well you can make sure that your

0:13:45president she gets her kicks from some

0:13:47bad some twisted start but again I don't

0:13:49like this girl you know that dude was

0:13:51hanging around your house and your and

0:13:52your beach trips all the time you

0:13:54probably would do something similar just

0:13:55he should know better than to think ill

0:13:57of st. Loup india soon as you know what

0:14:00moving he's in for pizza so i would so I

0:14:02think that's a problem I think there's a

0:14:04challenge you just that Lou Gehrig is a

0:14:06nice fellow and has a head has a good

0:14:08marriage and his his downfall is not

0:14:12because this doesn't follow drama arc it

0:14:15follows life our kids his his downfall

0:14:18is that he gets a terrible disease and

0:14:20dies

0:14:20yeah the general structure of the movies

0:14:23weird for me because for most of the

0:14:25movie nothing bad happens to lose yeah

0:14:28he's born he's a great baseball player

0:14:30gets to go to college

0:14:32gets to be on the Yankees wins a whole

0:14:34bunch of championships with a bunch of

0:14:35many titles because he is the best first

0:14:37baseman to ever play the game has a

0:14:39great marriage so you're thinking

0:14:41nothing bad ever happens to this guy

0:14:42then the worst possible thing happens to

0:14:44this guy and movies over

0:14:46I i think if you were going to remake

0:14:48this movie the subject matter of the lou

0:14:51gehrig story is his indie and and that's

0:14:54why I think that the ending of the movie

0:14:55is probably what works best for me

0:14:57although I I i find Teresa Wright

0:14:59charming in this movie so that I didn't

0:15:02have quite the problem with their their

0:15:04relationship that you guys are having

0:15:05but obviously the last 15 minutes of the

0:15:08movie is is what should have been your

0:15:09move

0:15:10yes and the real the real problem with

0:15:12that is is the ratio because this is a

0:15:14two-hour eight-minute movie

0:15:16yep and 15 minutes of that is sad

0:15:20Lou Gehrig is dying and the rest of it

0:15:22is all stuff happens to lou gehrig but

0:15:25nothing bad ever happens to leave here

0:15:26it's the human drama part of it too

0:15:28because what when he gets diagnosed

0:15:29there there is that scene which yeah

0:15:32it's hokey but it hints at the true

0:15:34human story here which is you is it

0:15:36three strikes doc that I never argue

0:15:38with an umpire that and and don't tell

0:15:42my wife she must know and she's like I

0:15:44knew it the moment I came in and she

0:15:46cries and all that's good but then we go

0:15:48we switch from that to the the day of

0:15:51the fair well which is again it

0:15:53basically in real time it has all the

0:15:56drama of a pregame ceremony at a

0:15:58baseball game which is this a nun

0:16:00I you are you saying that you weren't

0:16:02impressed with the postmaster-general

0:16:03doesn't want to see me the radio and the

0:16:06radio announcer describing what's

0:16:08happening like it's a horse race and now

0:16:09the Postmaster General is gonna be

0:16:11shaking his hand now we moved away that

0:16:14I mean his speech is good but but but in

0:16:16the gap there is what this movie or or

0:16:19at least if you were telling the story

0:16:20today how you would tell it which is it

0:16:22is this human tragedy of this person who

0:16:25is the best at has had a good life and

0:16:26is the best at what he does and now has

0:16:29gotten this terrible disease and it

0:16:30struck down in this physical prime

0:16:32exactly yeah and yeah it's just sort of

0:16:34like I got a bad break a and then and

0:16:37then he falls off of a chair and is

0:16:40suddenly a terrible player and and then

0:16:43he says I quit and gives us gives a

0:16:45heart-rending speech and walks out and

0:16:46that's the end of the movie and you're

0:16:47missing you know I think I there's only

0:16:50the hint of the human drama that

0:16:51happened behind the scenes which I

0:16:52understand for a movie that was made

0:16:531942 was made right after his death it's

0:16:56just now looking at you think you missed

0:16:58you missed the most important part or

0:17:01you or if you didn't miss it you only

0:17:02showed us a glimmer of it at the very

0:17:04end of two hours but even at the time

0:17:06you think you can assume that people

0:17:08know how good Lou Gehrig is right you

0:17:11don't need to spend that hour of the

0:17:12movie showing his baseball career

0:17:14well there's also the the idea that you

0:17:17know if if we're making this now for

0:17:19making aloo Gary

0:17:21now we're not having to cooperate with

0:17:24what if anyone who knew him yes

0:17:26and where is back then it's all you know

0:17:29all the can't do what I watch like that

0:17:31if you happy what Eleanor Garrett was

0:17:33very involved in any in signing off on

0:17:35this movie and it yet i mean the the

0:17:38doctor scene is pretty much the opposite

0:17:41of what really happened you know they

0:17:42they sort of made it Rosie for him

0:17:45because his wife didn't want him to be

0:17:47depressed for four years and so it's

0:17:49like well you know you might need a cane

0:17:51for 10 to 15 years and you know it's

0:17:53going to be okay you know you'll fight

0:17:55it and and his final speech is yeah it's

0:17:59mostly paraphrasing and using the same

0:18:01things but in real life he ended with

0:18:03you know I feel like the luckiest man in

0:18:05baseball you know but you know I have a

0:18:09lot left to live for

0:18:11yeah which you couldn't really into it

0:18:13you know at that point you can't do that

0:18:14in the movie because well we know

0:18:16yeah i think i would have been more

0:18:17poignant actually if they had kept that

0:18:19line and that was what am i if I have a

0:18:21criticism of of of of how they truncated

0:18:25that speech that would be at that's

0:18:27because that's the that's the the the

0:18:29dagger as it were

0:18:31yeah now about managers coming out of

0:18:34the dugout and it looks like he's going

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0:20:27looks like the pictures warmed up let's

0:20:29get back to the game I would like to

0:20:31make a specific criticism of this movie

0:20:33which is that it does not need a musical

0:20:35interlude in the middle

0:20:36yeah she does it was made in the 1940s

0:20:39ya know but I i deferred Erica here

0:20:42Erica is quite correct i had had a

0:20:45stopping and explain this to Stephen

0:20:46little movies using what is going on

0:20:48what are they doing and I was like honey

0:20:50you see this is 1942 it was just

0:20:52expected every film had this and this

0:20:55was at the point where the woman hadn't

0:20:57started singing it was just dancing and

0:20:59I was like you know I said you know

0:21:01usually it's somebody singing a song in

0:21:03a club like this while the main

0:21:04characters are sitting at a table

0:21:05watching but you know in some cases the

0:21:07dance with band and then somebody

0:21:08started singing and I was like see see

0:21:10that's entertainment

0:21:12that's the hit song from pride of the

0:21:14Yankees I like it when the film noir

0:21:16suddenly has some hot jazz but here

0:21:18especially for a two-hour movie seemed

0:21:21kind of irrelevant

0:21:23well as a blank even has a musical

0:21:25number but come on his flaws in Yolanda

0:21:27there is nothing irrelevant about veloz

0:21:29and Yolanda or not a noble and his as

0:21:33you know based on the fact that they are

0:21:35in the first set of title cards

0:21:37yes strongly they were a pretty big deal

0:21:40in 1942 that was a good get crushes

0:21:43that was that was about bizarre scene

0:21:46but I was and I was just like how well

0:21:47you know it isn't i'm already that you

0:21:49wanted to

0:21:50yeah it's the variety show portion of

0:21:52the program and the previous scene we

0:21:53learned though is another musical note

0:21:55in a previously when they're at the

0:21:56carnival in Chicago it turns out that

0:21:59all the Calliope xin Chicago just play

0:22:01that toddlin town over and over and over

0:22:04again to tell you that you're in chicago

0:22:05entire night I think modern-day movies

0:22:08would be better if they had a mandatory

0:22:10musical number interested in there for

0:22:12no reason like imitation game there'd be

0:22:15a little song and dance

0:22:16well that that's some movies do the

0:22:18tobey maguire spider-man has the

0:22:21inexplicable macy gray musical member in

0:22:23the middle of it before the Green Goblin

0:22:24kill some people wonder why is that in

0:22:27it there's that rave scene in one of

0:22:28those matrix sequels

0:22:30yeah yeah yeah I did really enjoy every

0:22:32step seen that babe ruth was in i might

0:22:36think babe ruth is really great at

0:22:38playing babe ruth I enjoy the most

0:22:40really very well captain method acting

0:22:43he seemed to like being on screen he

0:22:45does not come off very well in this

0:22:47movie though everything about it but

0:22:50little bit it's interesting you know if

0:22:52he shows up in the children's hospital

0:22:54room scene where you know Little Billy

0:22:55is is crippled and you know he's

0:22:57promising him a home run and you know

0:23:00all the scenes with Babe Ruth is him oh

0:23:01and here's another picture get another

0:23:02picture Kid and then he said I'll get

0:23:04you home runs and walks out and and it's

0:23:06amazing to me that he agreed to do that

0:23:08the kid knows to get a better offer

0:23:09immediately by the way it's a yes about

0:23:12hitting 240 babes that one gets good who

0:23:15comes in next me ask for three

0:23:17I don't think it is best to ruin the

0:23:19Yankees chance he did he did because he

0:23:21turned the entire thing into a home run

0:23:23hitting contest because as this movie

0:23:24portrays baseball is nothing but a bunch

0:23:27of people trying to hit home runs

0:23:29well as you know from watching any

0:23:31baseball movie taking an intentional

0:23:33walk is the height of stupidity and got

0:23:35a swing at those balls kids

0:23:37yeah the radio announcers like he can't

0:23:39get the second home run for that kid

0:23:41it's the World Series the entire season

0:23:44has led up to this and the radio

0:23:46announcer is saying Gehrig I don't know

0:23:48this could be a failure he's only hit

0:23:49one home run in this world series game

0:23:51Kenny hit a second home run for that kid

0:23:53you see Jason back then they didn't

0:23:55understand the importance of on base

0:23:57to jest indeed what is that if i may

0:23:59interrupt with some baseball nerdery

0:24:00baseball-reference dot-com is the worst

0:24:03thing that ever existed for movies like

0:24:05this because you can go look up the box

0:24:07why didn't you got that too and there is

0:24:10a game where Lou Gehrig hit two home

0:24:11runs against the cookie Bruce didn't hit

0:24:13home but I everybody get one at all any

0:24:15lost that World Series no no they want

0:24:18that one I think

0:24:19no I think that's the one they lost in

0:24:20seven games oh I thought this was the

0:24:22the 20-city the now I think this was the

0:24:25one that was when I'm 20-hour we're

0:24:27going to leave that's it this otherwise

0:24:29delightful film is now ruined the guys

0:24:32in 1942 would prefer that you call them

0:24:34Wallops good point good point

0:24:38I you know I may have I may be confusing

0:24:41my dates i think this was one that they

0:24:43actually won but a regard we gotta st

0:24:46what says obviously this is the thing

0:24:49that totally destroys pride of the

0:24:52yankees and renders it one of the worst

0:24:54movies in history

0:24:55call me ASAP but Little Billy smiling in

0:24:57his hospital bed with tears dripping

0:24:59dripping down his face totally works on

0:25:01home

0:25:01I don't know when he shows up later

0:25:03shape you it's me Billy see I didn't

0:25:06like I didn't like Little Billy because

0:25:08he looks like a tiny freaky-looking

0:25:10steve buscemi I just couldn't get past

0:25:11that freaky-looking steve buscemi really

0:25:14I i will i will point out on the Babe

0:25:16Ruth story starring William Bendix pulls

0:25:18a similar trick where baby visits a kid

0:25:21in the hospital and says hitting a home

0:25:23run baby and babe of course just the

0:25:25call shot right again yeah i think so i

0:25:28can't remember if it's that exact home

0:25:30run but hits the homerun for the kid and

0:25:32then years later when babe ruth is dying

0:25:34of cancer

0:25:34the kid turns out to be as oncologist oh

0:25:37wow

0:25:38at the end of the movement of the

0:25:39transfer and theirs and theirs are light

0:25:41and there's a choir of children outside

0:25:42singing take me out to the ballgame like

0:25:44a team and that that by the way is you

0:25:48got off light with pride of the Yankees

0:25:49security there's so much space me out to

0:25:51the ballgame in this movie two minutes

0:25:53in my mic I i'm tired of take me as a

0:25:55moment when it continues to follow a bit

0:25:59with Billy though it doesn't work for me

0:26:00because gary is so I bulgaria Cooper I

0:26:03guess it's just so awkward in that scene

0:26:05the end and that highlight something

0:26:07that's that's kind of my one of my

0:26:09bigger problems with this movie

0:26:10together which is that they portray lou

0:26:12gehrig as really really socially inept I

0:26:17mean it's almost excruciating yeah it's

0:26:19it's almost like he has Asperger's or

0:26:20something the way yeah it's I think that

0:26:22sort of gary cooper young remember from

0:26:25another I you love ya an earlier movie

0:26:28that we liked him a lot but he's a stiff

0:26:31he has a stiff guy and I like his

0:26:35performance in this movie i I'm I'm

0:26:37willing to overlook the fact that when

0:26:38he's young and in his prime Gary

0:26:40Cooper's the exact wrong person to play

0:26:42it but he does a really good job with

0:26:45the older lou gehrig I really think he

0:26:50acts very well in the scene where he

0:26:53realizes that his body isn't responding

0:26:54anymore and he manages to get a look of

0:26:57panic across his face that I I just

0:27:00think it's so very natural and and how

0:27:02someone of his physicality would react

0:27:06in that situation right body morning he

0:27:08just bodies training in the locker room

0:27:10and they always just kind of absolutely

0:27:12terrified afterwards even though

0:27:14everybody is playing it off like they

0:27:15didn't see it that's a great scene

0:27:17yes but it's to your point I will

0:27:19concede the fact that whatever he is

0:27:21forced to act with a human being is not

0:27:23choice right it it is like well

0:27:26lose-lose got a bit of the tub specialty

0:27:29usual on solution especially when he's

0:27:31acting with his his mother the scene

0:27:33where she's just yelling at him because

0:27:35he has lied to her about going to

0:27:37Harvard Harvard yeah he's just he's got

0:27:42this weirdly detached grin on his face

0:27:45that may be very uncomfortable if he

0:27:48were to take her seriously she's

0:27:50screaming i wish i had died because he

0:27:53isn't an engineer and Lady you are a

0:27:56horrible horrible but really really one

0:27:59of history's worst monster I didn't

0:28:01stress that enough but I was totally

0:28:04unaware that being in a frat was a

0:28:05stepping stone on the road to

0:28:07engineering every single engineer i have

0:28:09ever known has done it completely wrong

0:28:11well don't be so here the things you

0:28:13didn't know about fraternities back in

0:28:14New garrix time right and this goes this

0:28:16piece of the age problem in this movie

0:28:18which is a they show that fraternity and

0:28:21I think why are there those the the

0:28:23champions of industry

0:28:24maybe these men in suits in the in the

0:28:26fraternity house because they all look

0:28:28like they're 30 at least at least Gary

0:28:32Cooper is 41 playing be kid it hit the

0:28:35plate some 120 years his junior yeah

0:28:38yeah the girl that he meets is Myra

0:28:41sheet that actresses is in her early

0:28:43twenties at least but so many of those

0:28:45frat boys there are frat boys in the

0:28:47background who are young looking but

0:28:49then the main ones all seem like they're

0:28:5140 i think to make Gary Cooper well they

0:28:54yeah they do that throughout the movie

0:28:56because all the Yankees have receding

0:28:58hairlines yeah everybody's just way

0:29:00older than that they should be but it's

0:29:02weird because babe ruth is playing

0:29:05himself 20 years earlier yeah mhm yeah

0:29:09it wasn't that fat then so that is that

0:29:11is that is weird

0:29:13um maybe I i do like they have the guy

0:29:16who is the exemplar of classes and was

0:29:18like well you could let him in but don't

0:29:20expect me to call him brother which is

0:29:21sort of like that is Dax lets his heart

0:29:23yeah that's as hardscrabble upbringing

0:29:25that he's not respected as a son of the

0:29:28the lady who is the the cook and also is

0:29:31the son of a son of immigrants and he's

0:29:33distracting to me because he looks like

0:29:34one-third of andy richter but it is nice

0:29:40to see him get his comeuppance she does

0:29:41enjoy seeing him tackled he doesn't

0:29:43there's a ramen and then he tells off

0:29:45the Yankee Scouts who comes to look for

0:29:47it was just so mad at that point I just

0:29:49wanna go through the door through the

0:29:50window

0:29:51I I know I know Phil we talked about how

0:29:53baseball reference's the worst thing

0:29:54ever because you immediately if you're

0:29:55in baseball there like like you and me

0:29:57you look up the world series they played

0:29:59against the cardinals in there there

0:30:00were two and one of many one of the

0:30:02middle austin yeah i did that did this

0:30:03happen and they hit the home runs and

0:30:05that's totally not true i had a few

0:30:06other moments like that like uh when he

0:30:09want wally pip pip has a terrible

0:30:12blinking problem that have to take him

0:30:14out because you're seeing double from

0:30:15when he got hit my head the other day

0:30:16and Gehrig is inserted at that point and

0:30:20then has hit in the head by a ball in

0:30:21the same game this is like weeks or

0:30:23months of time that has been compressed

0:30:27lou gehrig was on the Yankees for a

0:30:29couple years before you or at least for

0:30:30a year before he took wally pip spot in

0:30:33the middle of the season so that's not

0:30:34really an displayed sporadic

0:30:36I need and it wasn't his first at-bat in

0:30:38this is like Gary get in there is like

0:30:39Oh me okay

0:30:41like he's never played before and I

0:30:42think throughout the movie they seem to

0:30:44misunderstand the idea that Lou Gehrig

0:30:46for the consecutive games record did not

0:30:48have to play every inning

0:30:50yeah and when they take him out it's

0:30:52like oh my god it's an amazing moment

0:30:54Lou Gehrig's coming out this is the end

0:30:56of the streets like know he could come

0:30:58out at any point it's the next day when

0:31:00he doesn't play that it's the end of the

0:31:01streak

0:31:02it's very strange that was weird and I

0:31:04also thought it was weird for as much as

0:31:07this movie praises lou gehrig I felt

0:31:11they could have made a bigger deal about

0:31:12how he was incredibly good at baseball

0:31:15yeah that's true because i didn't get

0:31:17that impression he was the best first

0:31:19baseman in the history of the game ever

0:31:22yeah nobody who knows i know nothing

0:31:25about baseball I mean I know so much

0:31:26nothing about baseball that up until

0:31:28like a year and a half ago I thought the

0:31:30Dodgers were still in Brooklyn because

0:31:31my only experience with them they're

0:31:33from movies from the forties let me tell

0:31:35you about this thing called the

0:31:36designated hitter role Erica and said

0:31:38dude hello your biology he is not only

0:31:42the best first baseman ever probably by

0:31:44most accounts but certainly top 20 and

0:31:46maybe top 15 best players of all time

0:31:48yeah yeah they didn't show that they

0:31:49just showed him hitting the ball

0:31:51everyone because it because in this

0:31:52movie it's a home run hitting contest

0:31:53but they're not well that the elephant

0:31:56in the room here is that Gary Cooper for

0:31:59being strapping individual was not a

0:32:02very athletic individual and he was

0:32:04right-handed and left-handed which lou

0:32:06gehrig was and so showing him actually

0:32:11trying to perform the sport of baseball

0:32:14who was not a good thing that said he is

0:32:16not this is not the worst betrayal of an

0:32:20e an actor trying to portray an athlete

0:32:22and in certainly a baseball movie that

0:32:24honor goes to tony Perkins in the movie

0:32:27fear strikers Alex out where he plays

0:32:29jimmy piersall and it and it's actually

0:32:31a pretty good movie for its time about

0:32:34mental illness jimmy piersall had spent

0:32:38actually time and uh what was in those

0:32:41days known as an asylum because he he

0:32:43just cracked under pressure but the

0:32:46scenes where a tony Perkins is forced

0:32:49do athletic endeavors you sit there

0:32:52watching party went mad if he's been

0:32:55running like that it's just such a weird

0:33:00way for this this movie to be plotted

0:33:01for a baseball movie you expect you know

0:33:04when the the whole tanglefoot he trips

0:33:06on the bats kind of thing happens you're

0:33:08going to be paid off with a scene of him

0:33:10hitting like a gigantic home run and

0:33:12everybody shares wow maybe we were wrong

0:33:14about this chump and that just never

0:33:16happens you know he's a chump basically

0:33:18and suddenly and all these awards this

0:33:20by the way this movie is montage happy

0:33:23no it is somebody from the eighties I

0:33:25love I was like hey but i just don't

0:33:27understand best investing and monetize

0:33:30ever i think is the scene where at about

0:33:32an hour and 40 minutes in we get the

0:33:34scrapbook scene where it goes my

0:33:36community get off at some point in this

0:33:38film to CBU things that have transpired

0:33:40I I that moment where I thought why is

0:33:43she why she was why are we spending so

0:33:44much time the scrapbook and then I

0:33:45realized that then at the end of that

0:33:47scene she starts looking the pages and

0:33:49we move forward in time because that's

0:33:51how you learn miller huggins is dying

0:33:52yeah we're gonna we're gonna move to his

0:33:54did to lose death now so we're done with

0:33:56this the rest of this stuff suffice to

0:33:58say he had a great career one of the

0:33:59best ever and now we'll move on to the

0:34:01end

0:34:02suffice it to say we sure as hell are

0:34:03going to show it to you nope i had left

0:34:05earlier there's a montage that I enjoy

0:34:07because of the technique involved

0:34:09because it's showing that he played

0:34:10baseball which again probably wait what

0:34:13I think my favorite my favorite of all

0:34:15of the montages I mean it's a once again

0:34:17talking about movies movies from the

0:34:18forties you get a lot of the sort of

0:34:20montages of of headlines or you know the

0:34:23the light up names outside of bars if

0:34:26somebody's going on a bender that sort

0:34:27of thing

0:34:28and here i like the fact that they

0:34:29didn't repeat themselves any of the

0:34:31times they did it so the first time you

0:34:32get headlines the second time you get a

0:34:34bunch of flags the third time you get a

0:34:36lot of jerseys and then at the end it's

0:34:38a scrapbook so i have to give props to

0:34:39the movie for for thinking up new ways

0:34:42to do it every time I enjoy the jersey

0:34:44montage that the way the journey jersey

0:34:45montage work was Stadium jersey of of of

0:34:49other team crowd shot railroad tracks

0:34:52like that because it's cool to see the

0:34:55old stadiums dont't on

0:34:58that's playing in the back yeah its head

0:35:00and of course if it hadn't been so long

0:35:02they wouldn't have had to think of so

0:35:03many different ways to do montages but

0:35:05that one man's life where you instantly

0:35:08structure this like a regular sports

0:35:09movie because until the very end at no

0:35:12point is he an underdog

0:35:14that's right now it's true he's on the

0:35:171927 Yankees in the nineteen

0:35:19thirty-eight years what do you do with

0:35:21that I feel like they could have taken

0:35:22the wally pip story and made that a

0:35:24little bit more where he's like learning

0:35:25from pip and he's he's you know

0:35:27pinch-hitting and he's going to you know

0:35:29get back to the minors and coming back

0:35:31up and trying to learn and then he has

0:35:32his moment but instead it's like Wally

0:35:34PIPP he comes to the team's you should

0:35:36watch Wally PIPP and then wally pip

0:35:39blinks a lot and says I gotta come out

0:35:40and said it couldn't let go about and

0:35:44you accept all about pip because that

0:35:46Wally PIPP thing is that it i mean

0:35:48that's a legendary story that the guy is

0:35:50the first baseman for the Yankees four

0:35:51years and then he one day because he's

0:35:53got this problem because I got hit mad

0:35:55he sits down he never gets his job back

0:35:56because Lou Gehrig takes because he's

0:35:58that good but but that drama is kind of

0:36:00missing here other than I mean literally

0:36:03is just Gary get in there and the rest

0:36:05is history

0:36:05so what I'm hearing Jason is that you're

0:36:07proposing a wide sargasso sea only told

0:36:10from the perspective of what we have

0:36:12little garrix not so good about it how

0:36:17did Wally PIPP feel about this because i

0:36:19only you get your job back we don't stop

0:36:21being injured

0:36:22yeah a yeah I think he made a bit of a

0:36:25meal of it on the on the rubber chicken

0:36:27circuit Nolan stories about oh yeah I

0:36:31had the most expensive headache ever

0:36:32don't be like me you know fans whatever

0:36:35you do don't admit you have a concussion

0:36:37kids know what are we not gonna talk

0:36:40about Walter Brennan is I really think

0:36:42we'll begin to search results are all

0:36:44right

0:36:45Phil's Walter Brennan quarter i love

0:36:47that scene on the beach which also i was

0:36:48amused by their their use of floating

0:36:51devices to demarcate the difference

0:36:53between the sand it was in the studio

0:36:55and the rear projection although the

0:36:57best removing all i have to say this is

0:36:59the when the motorcycle stop the car

0:37:01yeah because i can't believe it is

0:37:03literally the baby wheeled motorcycles

0:37:04out next to the car with it and then

0:37:06they just turn off the projector

0:37:07actually coast to a stop but at no point

0:37:11is there anymore

0:37:12movement or suggestion that anything is

0:37:13Israel they're betting on the beach

0:37:15I liked the Walther present miss you

0:37:16said pops out and he's like hey

0:37:19everybody what are we doing today

0:37:21take a little bit of a third wheel there

0:37:22and they're like no nothing we're just

0:37:24having a great time being married

0:37:25because our marriage is great and Erica

0:37:27mentioned a scene where where Teresa

0:37:29Wright tricks Walter Brennan to think

0:37:31that that lou gherig has betrayed her

0:37:34and is having an affair when really he's

0:37:36just playing baseball with the

0:37:37neighborhood kids but all the rage that

0:37:39slicker some runs Walter Brennan face

0:37:41it's it's it's actually disturbing we

0:37:44can live several minutes and watching

0:37:46him build up to his justice by lou

0:37:48gehrig all people why I'm gonna go get

0:37:50them and I'm going to punch that guy

0:37:52he's clearly a person who is frightened

0:37:54of silence because that guy does not

0:37:56like five seconds go by without starting

0:37:58up another sentence

0:37:59oh yeah it doesn't seem like the press

0:38:00box must have been exhausting oh yes

0:38:02it's between him and uh uh the the other

0:38:06guy is a mystery machine looky area

0:38:08Madison we can well be pretty mia is how

0:38:12he talked but he probably shut up about

0:38:14that after like one season of Lou

0:38:16playing Robert Lee yeah but they kept

0:38:19they kept going on and kept going to

0:38:21keep that bit because you have to have

0:38:23drama you had to have something but also

0:38:25floors me about this movie is that it

0:38:27was a co-written by Herman mankiewicz

0:38:31yeah dude who but a year earlier was

0:38:34co-creating that a little student film

0:38:36called Citizen Kane yeah whatever

0:38:40happened to that guy looks nice know

0:38:41somebody got a career idea never been a

0:38:45lateral move

0:38:46I don't I don't think this is I don't

0:38:48think this is a bad movie I think I'll

0:38:50just know it's not a bad movie uur it's

0:38:53of its time it has a whitewash of a a

0:38:56figure who has a a few dramatic elements

0:39:00in his life that aren't i think

0:39:03particularly well told because instead

0:39:05it wants to be a standard forties kind

0:39:09of romance biopic so you spend a lot of

0:39:13time with things that are a lot i think

0:39:15less interesting in terms of hulu gary

0:39:17was as a person and a lot more time with

0:39:19you know or instead of the time with the

0:39:22stuff that really made him unique and it

0:39:24is of its time i mean it is

0:39:25speaking Italian I felt it was other

0:39:27than that it would tell the little bit

0:39:28long it felt completely inoffensive to

0:39:30me but it also didn't ever jump out it's

0:39:33you know it's a romance with that

0:39:36happens to be about the baseball player

0:39:37you kind of point out that the reason

0:39:39that i enjoyed I I also don't think that

0:39:41this is a super great movie or anything

0:39:42and i had definitely had some problems

0:39:44with it but it's very very much of its

0:39:48time and like I said this is my favorite

0:39:49era of moviemaking so just watching a

0:39:51film with sort of these these rhythms

0:39:54and beets and just this style made me

0:39:57feel very comfortable and while Stephen

0:39:59was getting more and more bored actually

0:40:01was building his lego baseball stadium

0:40:03off appropriately because he couldn't be

0:40:05bothered didn't watch two hours and

0:40:06eight minutes of it i thought--like it

0:40:08goes down easy it is a little bit long

0:40:10but its its pleasant in what it does

0:40:12especially if you get into the rhythms

0:40:13of this kind of a this kind of error on

0:40:15this kind of weather for two hours and

0:40:16eight minutes past surprisingly quickly

0:40:18until I said thought about it and

0:40:20realize nothing happened in that time

0:40:22yeah I don't know it's it's it's closin

0:40:25and you know I mean I grew up in the

0:40:26Yankees house so you know whenever it

0:40:29showed up on TV but I like there was a

0:40:31legit my well-knit I'm innocent I I'm

0:40:34you know I have nothing to do with this

0:40:36I was absorbed into Yankee stage he was

0:40:38a hostage you put it that way and see my

0:40:40father would watch it my step-brother

0:40:41would watch it they can quote it

0:40:43verbatim i mean i've seen it you know

0:40:45this is actually the first time I've

0:40:46ever seen it without commercials so it

0:40:48was actually short and well you know it

0:40:51and it always reminded me you know the

0:40:53more watched and watched movies from the

0:40:55period it always reminds me of night and

0:40:57day which is the the biopic of cole

0:41:00porter who similarly you know he just

0:41:02sort of fell into everything and had

0:41:03success and was great songwriter and all

0:41:05that and then a horse fell on him and

0:41:07broke his legs and that kind of threw

0:41:09off the rest of his life and so he had

0:41:11one tragic thing but of course the movie

0:41:13doesn't tell anything about his life

0:41:15really it doesn't tell anything remotely

0:41:17true but it's got a lot of musical

0:41:19numbers and it's great and it's the same

0:41:21kind of you know he's such a great guy

0:41:23but did it have village and Yolanda

0:41:26doing oddly enough they did a baseball

0:41:28sequence in the middle of that

0:41:29you know it's kind of it's less a movie

0:41:33and more just a giant moving pedestal

0:41:35but yea standing up on ya i think i

0:41:37would have liked this movie more with a

0:41:39worse actor because if you're going to

0:41:41make it more about how great Lou Gehrig

0:41:43is and you make Gary Cooper do it

0:41:46there's not a lot I mean he is that is

0:41:49Gary Cooper easiest yeah I trying to

0:41:52think you would cast if you're making a

0:41:531942 I'm saying make it interesting

0:41:57let's throw Cary Grant in there and see

0:41:58what happens rapidly plays that

0:42:00character ssa make it interesting as the

0:42:03suave lose at least he'll have some sort

0:42:06of inner life which I never thought this

0:42:08lou gehrig ever did

0:42:10mm and it's it's like that Joe Montana

0:42:12SNL sketch work he has no subtext

0:42:15everything he thinks he says yeah yeah

0:42:18you know there's one other thing that we

0:42:20should say uh Steven maybe do homework

0:42:22for this he sent me an article about the

0:42:24myth that they reversed every scene

0:42:27think Gary Cooper was playing

0:42:28left-handed and which is totally not the

0:42:30case there are absolute lie couple of

0:42:31scenes that way this this article was

0:42:33insanely long and very much scarily

0:42:36welcome to the baseball nerds

0:42:38yeah wow I didn't know how creepy you

0:42:40guys were same as the old nurse

0:42:42yeah I I wasn't even gonna bring that up

0:42:44Erica because it is hit it to fall so

0:42:47much did you know that I'm ready right

0:42:50okay i read some of that article so I

0:42:52feel I seems larger portion

0:42:54yep i am john there's an article

0:42:57explaining what day each external shot

0:43:01was done in which stadium at the very

0:43:04stadiums yeah yeah

0:43:06oh there I mean a lot of it was shot at

0:43:08Wrigley Field in California

0:43:09understanding in for all the different

0:43:11fields

0:43:12go figure right but they had they had

0:43:14some nice shots of up stands and yes

0:43:17interesting aspect and it probably had

0:43:20just enough of a scoreboard that

0:43:21somebody was able to go to retro sheet

0:43:23figure out all the details

0:43:25yeah this was between innings six and

0:43:27seven of them

0:43:28so to sum up III think this is it's a

0:43:32very good example of a picture that you

0:43:34would make in the nineteen forties that

0:43:36I forget who said it that goes down easy

0:43:40yeah it's not met yeah it's not gonna

0:43:43a trouble you too much you're not going

0:43:45to be terribly bored though you will

0:43:47look back and say my god this is two

0:43:49hours and again i think the the closing

0:43:53scene pax pax a bit of a punch so it's

0:43:56it's a for what it is it's a it's a

0:44:00pretty enjoyable flick we and that's

0:44:03what you walk out of the you know in

0:44:04theory you walk out of the theater with

0:44:06is that last punch again you know what

0:44:09more do you need

0:44:10so apparently the studio was totally

0:44:12wondering that last shot

0:44:14they won't do a thing where he walks and

0:44:16hugs Teresa right and instead of the

0:44:19current shot is just him walking into

0:44:21the shadows and didn't respond to

0:44:23comments for someone shouts play ball in

0:44:25the background it's a terrific seen that

0:44:27it's up to you to know that he died a

0:44:29couple years later and didn't just walk

0:44:31around on a crutch for 15 years right

0:44:33you're set yeah they already expected us

0:44:35to know that he was a great baseball

0:44:37player without showing us so why don't

0:44:39you assume that too

0:44:40yeah I like although I i actually

0:44:42thought that the the movie was going to

0:44:43end on the previous shot because there's

0:44:44also a really nice shot where he wants

0:44:46from from the mic and he walks toward

0:44:48the dugout and the camera just stays

0:44:50there and waller and smaller and starts

0:44:53to disappear and I was thinking to

0:44:54myself wow that would actually be a

0:44:56great last shot that he just walked into

0:44:58the dugout is gone in the and and then

0:45:00instead they kinda like oh they cut and

0:45:02then you see what it is which is that

0:45:03shadowy hallway and he disappears

0:45:06completely into the shadows and they say

0:45:07place actually almost the same shot

0:45:09yeah yeah the dissidents I had the same

0:45:11same sort of experience i was very

0:45:13disappointed when they cut from that

0:45:15shot from from him walking into the

0:45:17dugout side like always a great ending

0:45:18and then they did it again i said okay

0:45:20well it's really a great ending yeah

0:45:21yeah to do it twice

0:45:24directed by sam would who directed the

0:45:26Night at the Opera I'm previous

0:45:28selection forget old movie closing so

0:45:30many old movies now it's amazing

0:45:32yeah Ford movie by got a few notes i

0:45:35gotta bleed off as is my wat i have to

0:45:37have to call out in a very early scene

0:45:39where yung Lu is a is playing in the

0:45:42sandlot he there's go ahead the allow it

0:45:47yes the the younger boys the other boys

0:45:49I think they what they require them to

0:45:50pay

0:45:51in baseball card and paste in baseball

0:45:53cards just to play and you know he sets

0:45:57up in the batter's box and I think

0:45:59there's a single pitch and he swings and

0:46:02then roughly half a second later about

0:46:0510 feet behind him the a ball is clearly

0:46:08shot out of some sort of cannons and

0:46:12disappears into the middle distance yeah

0:46:14was that you know you would think you

0:46:16could get a kid to actually hit a ball

0:46:18it's something you would think in the

0:46:19making of this film but yeah speaking of

0:46:21that scene where you get a ball and

0:46:23broke a window that's it that's okay

0:46:25because Sandlot baseball is played

0:46:27nearer offices story and I thought it

0:46:31was weird that actory yeah I thought I

0:46:34thought it was weird that men columbia

0:46:35athletic director's office also had a

0:46:39windows are you saying that they don't

0:46:41field

0:46:42well that's how they can tell they're

0:46:43good prospect i read some bit of trivia

0:46:45there that said that that was that was

0:46:47one of the bit of apocryphal things

0:46:49about this problem is that is not in

0:46:51fact hovering a few feet over the

0:46:53baseball time a little bit of artistic

0:46:55license there there's a line that that i

0:46:58have to mention because it feels

0:47:00strangely low for this otherwise dramas

0:47:03film it's what we have to do kill you to

0:47:06get you out of the lineup yeah yeah I

0:47:08was wondering how that stayed in the

0:47:09script yeah I have that I have that line

0:47:12written down with like 10 ! that really

0:47:16wow for didn't write you want that after

0:47:21its cold you know another thing that I

0:47:23found quite disturbing was when they

0:47:25refer to Eleanor's father mr. Twitchell

0:47:28as the hot dog king is when everybody

0:47:29knows that Roman is the hot dog king of

0:47:32chicago sausage king of Chicago i'll

0:47:34have you know well sausages hot it's a

0:47:37subtle but very important is it so very

0:47:39much difference

0:47:41welcome to sauce attract anything had

0:47:43two kings have negotiated for

0:47:45generations to have to separate their

0:47:47their empires last thing i want to

0:47:50mention is the the goodbye speech which

0:47:53is generally pretty awesome throughout

0:47:56the entirety of it there's this really

0:47:57grainy process shot of babe ruth's face

0:48:00yeah bottom like cut eventually but he's

0:48:03there for a long time

0:48:04I'm behind a microphone just it's

0:48:06terrifying and he's a scary guy

0:48:09yeah I like Babe Ruth throughout this

0:48:10movie but that part is weird I i do like

0:48:12Moby I just you know that guy was a he

0:48:15was a character and it comes through

0:48:16that he's a character even though it's

0:48:18you know old babies playing in paper if

0:48:19you had some swell hats babe but this

0:48:21one is top yeah uh-huh that's the last

0:48:27withdrawal being a hat okay i'm watching

0:48:29an awful lot of movies from the thirties

0:48:31and forties and I've never seen anybody

0:48:32eat a straw hat before is that a thing

0:48:34that's to show that they're just big

0:48:36kids that's the sort of thing actual

0:48:37fraternities would do when they weren't

0:48:39sitting on flagpoles okay then you're

0:48:42saying terrible things about the poor

0:48:44yeah practice also known as the same

0:48:48kind of boobs is Gary yes that baseball

0:48:52fans are the same kind of boobs carry em

0:48:55that's all

0:48:57yeah I don't think the final speeches

0:48:59nearly as echo is everyone acts I think

0:49:01they may be thinking of the actual

0:49:03reaction of the actual pieces before the

0:49:04Super echoing the actual speech has lots

0:49:07of that whoever whoever did this sound

0:49:09design for this new there needed to be

0:49:12stadium echo but wanted to be audible so

0:49:14yes but there are places where it's not

0:49:17when they show crowd shots

0:49:18surely all you hear is the echo and you

0:49:20can actually hear what he's saying in

0:49:22those parts which I found kind of us

0:49:23really unimportant parts and i like that

0:49:25the the the cop in Chicago welcomes

0:49:28himself into the mansion so that I love

0:49:31that scene that is such a 1940 see we

0:49:34can witness the parish proposal he just

0:49:36brings you don't need me anymore

0:49:39yeah this movie is not paying a great

0:49:40picture of police work know how you're a

0:49:43baseball player

0:49:44come on boys the law don't apply to you

0:49:47Lou every police car is driving Lou Gary

0:49:49to the stadium

0:49:51it was a simpler more innocent time it

0:49:53was it was rocks are above the law

0:49:56that's really the moral of this tale

0:49:57yeah cops were more corrupted we like it

0:50:00that way and i love the in the the

0:50:04panoply of nuanced accents that make up

0:50:06this film the Irish cop at the beginning

0:50:09is pretty good super super areas

0:50:13yes i would also like to point out that

0:50:16that pop gherig has a lovely cameo in

0:50:19Casablanca 00 i enjoyed pop carry a lot

0:50:22yeah i'll pop characters yeah he stayed

0:50:24out of this horrible wipes way

0:50:26yeah good work up gary is good and he

0:50:29does his best to explain that two young

0:50:31one point maybe she makes a complete

0:50:33hash of it

0:50:34mog eric is terrible but pop Gehrig's

0:50:37okay is it right now and i spent a lot

0:50:39of this film kind of disappointed

0:50:40because I I think you first mentioned

0:50:42this character when we were talking

0:50:44about Nick vu

0:50:45yes and and so I was expecting this an

0:50:49accent that would just you know shatter

0:50:51my eardrums with its awfulness and the

0:50:53the accent isn't really the point you

0:50:55know I guess it's really more the

0:50:56character yeah yeah I should have I

0:50:58should have been more straightforward

0:51:00yeah that's alright that's my fault i'm

0:51:03not going to get no ceremony Yankee

0:51:05Stadium thats future oh some Yahoo seems

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0:53:16so back to the action well let's move

0:53:19ahead 35 years yes let's go ahead to a

0:53:23film about is a diametrically Posey and

0:53:27Derek story as one can be and still be a

0:53:30movie how do i I don't think the the

0:53:34word scabrous can be used and how to

0:53:37describe motion pictures quite the way

0:53:41it would describe the bad news bears

0:53:42which is a I just think a delightful

0:53:49commentary about sport and childhood and

0:53:54how adults ruined everything

0:53:56my yep yeah and it I everytime i watch

0:54:01this movie I think off the bad news

0:54:02bears this is this is gonna be okay and

0:54:05then i watch Messick my god this is a

0:54:07great picture it is it really is

0:54:09considered maybe one of my top 5 this is

0:54:12the time I watch it I everything about

0:54:13this movie is so fantastic from the

0:54:16screenplay to the direction the acting

0:54:18it is it is so good anyhow I should

0:54:22probably summarize the movie as quickly

0:54:24as possible

0:54:25there's a very competitive little league

0:54:27team in southern a little league in

0:54:29Southern California a do-gooder city

0:54:32councilman Sue's so that everyone can

0:54:34participate in and all the cast offs are

0:54:39thrown into this one

0:54:40team which is managed by Morris

0:54:42Buttermaker who is played by what Walter

0:54:46Matthau out and the only reason he's

0:54:48apparently doing the gig is because he's

0:54:49being paid handsomely to do it

0:54:51he's a washed-up minor league baseball

0:54:53player he's a high-functioning alcoholic

0:54:56although high-functioning might be give

0:54:58our duel too much too much credit

0:55:00yeah yeah whatever introduced to him

0:55:02when he pulls into the Little League

0:55:03parking lot at dawn reaches into the

0:55:05cooler in his backseat cracks of

0:55:07budweiser drains off the top couple of

0:55:09ounces and pours in some jacket and I

0:55:11want to back up there because i think

0:55:12that is one of the greatest opening

0:55:14shots in the history of the most

0:55:15beautiful you got this beautiful shot of

0:55:18a little league team practicing on the

0:55:21field and it is just this slice of

0:55:23Americana and they're doing drills and

0:55:26such a this junker car pulls him and

0:55:30it's walter matthau with his hangdog

0:55:32expression and he porks about the

0:55:35budweiser that is his grab from the

0:55:37cooler in the back seat of his card but

0:55:40even in the nineteen seventies violating

0:55:42all sorts of a big container grabs for

0:55:46the bottle of Jim Beam the the Bourbon

0:55:49you choose when you really hard

0:55:51particular about bourbon or is it into

0:55:53his that risk is now empty can of

0:55:56budweiser grant is all

0:55:58yeah that's flavor country no that's a

0:56:00great shot because then sets up the

0:56:02entire approach of this movie and we

0:56:05kind of know everything we need to know

0:56:06about Buttermaker at that point I don't

0:56:08think we do yet because we still have at

0:56:10this point we've only seen him drink one

0:56:12brand of beer

0:56:13yeah he the best that he's always

0:56:15drinking something different like he

0:56:17just wanders historic grabs whatever is

0:56:18closed when he got rainier flips

0:56:20whatever let's go i'm just drinking beer

0:56:22well the obvious explanation for that is

0:56:24he bought whatever was on so yeah I've

0:56:26literally has he clearly has a favorite

0:56:28brand because there are three places

0:56:29where we see Budweiser

0:56:31yeah but throughout the film he's

0:56:32drinking budweiser Mickey's big mouth

0:56:35miller high life let's yep there's a

0:56:37there's a scene where he actually puts

0:56:39the beer back before drinking it we

0:56:40don't get to see what brand that is then

0:56:42he's on Pabst Blue Ribbon Budweiser

0:56:44again more Budweiser and then in the

0:56:46championship game he's drinking coors

0:56:48though in the bottom half of the 60

0:56:50transitions to lucky lager

0:56:52and there's actually a point where he's

0:56:53drinking a lucky in a bottle on the

0:56:55bench but then he stands up moments

0:56:56later and it's turned into a course in

0:56:58the kinda and even in the team photo at

0:57:00the very end he as a beer it's just it's

0:57:02it's fantastic and anything is if you've

0:57:04ever dealt with alcoholic and

0:57:06particularly a poor outcome you you've

0:57:10seen that there's there may be a

0:57:12favorite brand there but it's very

0:57:13rarely in rotation because the the ANP

0:57:17only has one beer on sale right

0:57:19everytime i watch bad news bears i am

0:57:24surprised because in my head because of

0:57:27the first time I saw it it's about kids

0:57:30playing baseball

0:57:31yeah right and then I watch it I go

0:57:33alright this is about water bath out

0:57:35right well I'm i saw this movie so many

0:57:38times as a kid on TV and so it came off

0:57:41to me as just a it's a funny baseball

0:57:43movie for kids

0:57:44yeah oh it is so not for kids because

0:57:47the end this thing is that they they

0:57:48trimmed it down the edited for

0:57:50television and they took out pretty much

0:57:51everything that was you

0:57:53objection intellectuals have so much

0:57:56stuff that I never noticed back then

0:57:58that the fact that they it completely

0:58:01I completely missed the fact that they

0:58:04only have a team because some a-hole

0:58:05politicians sued yeah in the first place

0:58:08he doesn't care enough to manage his

0:58:09sons team he paid or even talk to the

0:58:12games until until the very end of the

0:58:14area no one shows up at the games i

0:58:16think there's a chance

0:58:17all of these kids are orphans I never

0:58:22understood why Tatum O'Neal calls him

0:58:23boilermaker throughout the film and that

0:58:25of course makes more sense now out of

0:58:27the one of the funny things is that

0:58:28everyone calls him by the wrong name

0:58:30using butter waterworks all-butter crud

0:58:34x 10.5 well the Tanners got a thing

0:58:40a boilermaker as you say and there's

0:58:42this like a bunch of other x squared

0:58:44people just totally calling the wrong

0:58:46name no no one gets out to our forests

0:58:49butter

0:58:50perhaps most important that the fact

0:58:54that the team moms and the coaches are

0:58:56so absolutely awful completely

0:58:58completely went over my head back that

0:59:00and and how much they clearly hate the

0:59:03intrusion of butter maker and this

0:59:05politician on their little baseball

0:59:06fiefdom yeah and that that all rings so

0:59:09true laughs as anybody who's ever dealt

0:59:11was because apparent now or just any

0:59:13kind of like parenting situation right

0:59:15now even the people in the office who

0:59:16have to update the standings are furious

0:59:19that repaired even if ya wanted that one

0:59:21of the objections that the league

0:59:24manager starts complaining about just

0:59:27almost to the point of Mania is then now

0:59:30it's an odd number of a league-low I

0:59:32understand that complaint you can we

0:59:35want everyone to play each weekend right

0:59:37and you can't do that with an odd number

0:59:39of teams somebody has to have a buy one

0:59:41get an A Team could have a that's why

0:59:43everybody hates me so so here's my

0:59:45background I played Little League

0:59:46baseball in the seventies and my team

0:59:49was in fact where the rejected players

0:59:52went to play yes and we were terrible in

0:59:55four years of organized baseball

0:59:58we won two games that were

0:59:58we won two games that were

1:00:00that one year three and one here for

1:00:02first two years they were no wins

1:00:04I i we we were we were the bad news race

1:00:07and in fact when I was i want to say

1:00:09first grade the manager who was not a

1:00:13parent but for some reason had

1:00:15volunteered to manage us offered all of

1:00:17the first graders on the team and

1:00:20probably second-graders to a pinch of

1:00:22his chewing tobacco because that's what

1:00:27baseball players did and so I i watch

1:00:29this movie thinking oh and I I i don't

1:00:32think i've seen it before if I have I

1:00:34haven't seen it since it was the edited

1:00:36for television you know many many years

1:00:38ago and I I had a moment of thinking oh

1:00:40my god they made a movie about the team

1:00:44that I was on it except there was no

1:00:46there was no turnaround where we got

1:00:47good players and at the end to make it

1:00:49to the finals

1:00:50we were just terrible the whole time and

1:00:52um and so that was one whole layer where

1:00:55I thought oh my god this is I I totally

1:00:57know the story and I can identify with

1:00:59it and then as a parent of children who

1:01:01have been in organized sports for awhile

1:01:03i also got to witness all of the things

1:01:06about how in the end all of the kids

1:01:08just want to play and the grown-ups are

1:01:11terrible people who have completely lost

1:01:14perspective on why these sports exist so

1:01:18I loved it but I also feel like i-i've

1:01:21lived both sides of it now in my life

1:01:23and so it also really kind of touch me

1:01:24that it was I've seen this before I I

1:01:28never tore off all of my uniform clothes

1:01:31and climbed up a tree but I thought

1:01:33about doing it was a beautiful I I

1:01:37should probably can conclude that the

1:01:39plot of this mature way we can do the

1:01:42one yeah yeah we started it he pulls

1:01:45into the parking lot of these tricky

1:01:46writing

1:01:47ok so the scroll his team is terrible

1:01:49and damon runyon as a scroll of the

1:01:51industry boy what a terrible time this

1:01:54is team this poor be the simple and he

1:01:59goes good the practices and it's your

1:02:01typical

1:02:02sports movie montage of poor athletes

1:02:06paint poor athletes they play their

1:02:09first game against the Yankees who are

1:02:11the best team in the league and a side

1:02:13note here this is made in 1976 and at

1:02:16the time it had been 12 years since the

1:02:19yankees had been any any damn good of

1:02:22the the major-league Yankees and yet i

1:02:24still like the fact that they're all the

1:02:26the the most awful thing about sports is

1:02:30the Yankees so that they play against

1:02:35the Yankee's it's such a humiliating

1:02:37loss that Buttermaker actually forfeits

1:02:40the game it's 20 don't even get an

1:02:42at-bat know it's 22 nothing at one point

1:02:44and they're about to disband the team

1:02:48and something in butter makers three

1:02:50sizes too small heart says and maybe i

1:02:53should actually go through the motions

1:02:54of of of teaching them how to play

1:02:56baseball so I just point out that in

1:03:00modern not a kid baseball you have a

1:03:02limited number of battered parading so

1:03:04there's a mercy at all yes well there's

1:03:06a limited like you can you can only bad

1:03:08around at most levels and then the

1:03:10inning is over whether you got me out on

1:03:12that team or not but precisely because

1:03:14this would happen otherwise all the time

1:03:16all the time so II begins to drama

1:03:22little bit more and they're a little

1:03:25less terrible those still awful and so

1:03:28what

1:03:29Buttermaker does at this point is the

1:03:31first person he seeks out is the

1:03:33daughter of a lady who used to date he

1:03:35taught how to pitch he's played by Tatum

1:03:37O'Neal this is her first picture that

1:03:39she need after winning Best Supporting

1:03:40Actress for paper moon

1:03:43she's great she is sasha's has to get

1:03:46his movement just great

1:03:47IMDb has some of the least surprising

1:03:49trivia ever other actresses they

1:03:51consider kristy mcnichol and jodie

1:03:53foster haha yum you basically the other

1:03:56two

1:03:56yeah and apparently sarah jessica parker

1:03:59but Jodi fostered said no I'm gonna go

1:04:02make taxi driver

1:04:03oh that was a good choice and um kristy

1:04:06mcnichol apparently got the part and

1:04:08then they said now let's split we can

1:04:10get Tatum O'Neal so sorry

1:04:12Tatum O'Neal

1:04:13is basically a tomboy who doesn't want

1:04:16to be a tomboy anymore but she's being a

1:04:18tomboy and you can throw she can throw a

1:04:21curve that breaks two feet and so she's

1:04:24sucked into the movie though not before

1:04:26she negotiates with Buttermaker to

1:04:29basically find her ballet lessons and

1:04:31modeling classes she's selling star maps

1:04:34that's a nice detail to she's sitting in

1:04:36a lawn chair by the side of the road

1:04:38selling the maps to the stars homes when

1:04:40he goes to talk to her i love that but

1:04:42which is another great character

1:04:43introduction now I mean the movies full

1:04:46of those so good and then the other

1:04:48addition to the team is a Kelly leak the

1:04:51coolest kid in school who is played by

1:04:53the watchman's jackie earle haley i know

1:04:55i love that my wife was physically

1:04:58repelled by Jackie her it would rip this

1:05:01he knows what she knows what he's going

1:05:04to grow up to become this this this this

1:05:07for audition ami yeah let's not forget

1:05:11he also played Freddy Krueger he was one

1:05:13of the cutters and breaking away

1:05:15Breaking Away where he's kind of gross

1:05:17quite frankly he's pretty repellent in

1:05:19this as well I mean there's that they

1:05:21negotiate the the terms of the air hot

1:05:23on one point

1:05:25yeah and and she she's she specifies

1:05:28that if if she wins the game that he has

1:05:30to play for their team and a so he says

1:05:33well what if you lose and she says name

1:05:35it and there's this grid creeps across

1:05:37the face that is the creepiest because

1:05:40then it turns out all he wanted was to

1:05:42go to a Rolling Stones concert with her

1:05:44and she's furious

1:05:45even though I'm pretty sure the rolling

1:05:46stones were a good concert in 1976 yeah

1:05:49yeah very good concept in 1976 but my

1:05:52favorite part of that that little

1:05:53negotiation if she goes back to the car

1:05:55after she's lost and Walter Matthau how

1:05:59how to go and then and he says I lost i

1:06:02have to go to roll instant concert movie

1:06:04with them and and math was just a

1:06:07plastic and now if he tries to get fresh

1:06:10with you do this and she says who do you

1:06:12think you are my father and wishes on

1:06:14your god damn manager and I that is that

1:06:17is one of the best exchanges in the

1:06:19movie because it perfectly encapsulates

1:06:21the relationship between those two

1:06:24yeah let's seems like that makes me

1:06:25wonder what Tatum O'Neal's me

1:06:27other thinks of all this now is

1:06:29saturated math out for about two years

1:06:31yeah clearly she doesn't have a lot of

1:06:33and now he's back in her daughter's life

1:06:35yeah I see was apparently sad when he

1:06:38left them the broker heart so that gives

1:06:40you an idea of what I think a lot of the

1:06:44the walter matthau Tatum O'Neal reunion

1:06:47was done on the Qt suppose my mother mom

1:06:50because I don't think she would have had

1:06:52get objected and later on in the movie

1:06:54we find out the Tatum O'Neal negotiates

1:06:56that mom should come to the game to

1:06:58watch and maybe go out on the date with

1:07:01Walter Matthau afterwards but we're

1:07:02getting ahead of ourselves because it

1:07:05reads almost like they're a divorced

1:07:07couple and yet she is his his daughter

1:07:10she actually is it done and that's not

1:07:11in the story but you might as well

1:07:13portrayed it that way then yeah he's

1:07:14coming back into her life in order to do

1:07:16this and and they have to negotiate the

1:07:18presence of the mother at the last game

1:07:21and in fact in there in the remake from

1:07:242005 which we may or may not talk about

1:07:27after this she not she actually is his

1:07:30daughter haha but is so anyhow Kelly

1:07:35leak played by the watchman's Jackie

1:07:38Earle Haley the question our Shack not

1:07:41the question i forget i don't i don't

1:07:43know if you kind of excited that funny

1:07:47books is the question

1:07:49oh he uh uh he is not going to join the

1:07:54team but then he is bullied by the

1:07:56manager of the yankees and he decides to

1:07:58join the team isn't a few to the more oh

1:08:01yeah it was never played a likeable

1:08:03character in any movie I've ever seen on

1:08:07yeah he's so unlikeable visits great he

1:08:09has no most magnificent of bastards in

1:08:11this year's every bad parent

1:08:14kodad kids sports team of any kind

1:08:19yeah all rolled into one it's amazing

1:08:21and yet you

1:08:23yeah you hate him so with it a decent

1:08:25picture and a decent player the Bears

1:08:28finally start winning games

1:08:31they move up the standings and they

1:08:33somehow wind up into the championship

1:08:35game with the with the FR mentioned

1:08:37Yankees and on at the same time Walter

1:08:42Matthau becomes less of the easygoing

1:08:44beer-swilling a fun dad that he was and

1:08:48more of the demanding come on you kids

1:08:51this is what you wanted kind of terrible

1:08:53parent and it all sort of culminates in

1:08:57the in the championship game where both

1:09:00he and Vic Mauro apparently are having a

1:09:03a dick contest to see you can be bigger

1:09:05one and Walter Matthau potentially sees

1:09:11oh god I'm being horrible and just sort

1:09:14of cracks himself a beer and says hey

1:09:16kids i'm going to put in all the

1:09:17terrible players now and if we win we

1:09:20win if we lose we lose and as it turns

1:09:25out they lose but there's a there's a

1:09:27wonderful moment at the end where the

1:09:29Yankees give sort of a heart

1:09:30half-hearted well you guys showed heart

1:09:33and you're okay by us and Tanner Boyle

1:09:36who is the scrappy fight seeking

1:09:38shortstop because it was about three

1:09:40foot tall if this movie

1:09:42he says you can take your apology and

1:09:44your trophy and and and shove it up your

1:09:47ass and then and it is also one of the

1:09:51few children's movies that features a

1:09:53full-scale brawl which i think is just a

1:09:58wonderful moment again movies that's

1:10:01basically want to see these kids punched

1:10:03at this point yeah oh yeah everyone is

1:10:05punching and i should i should mention

1:10:07that in the vista to go for full circle

1:10:10and Vic Mauro his sons the start picture

1:10:13on the yankees his son wants to strike

1:10:15out the fact catcher uncle Bert the

1:10:19worst bear the thinner

1:10:21yeah Erica knows when I'm talking about

1:10:24my far and the most all can't even get a

1:10:27jersey that for now that fits he's awful

1:10:30and he's giving the finger to the

1:10:33picture and the picture wants to strike

1:10:34him out and but the dad says hey Vic

1:10:38Mauro says hey walk this kid instead he

1:10:40throws at his head and Vic Mauro and

1:10:42rage walks out

1:10:44and smacks the half-life and asked his

1:10:46son all haha

1:10:48knocks him down as Maxum so hard its

1:10:50silent

1:10:51yeah and and she creates a yeah it is my

1:10:55god it is it is a devastating scene in

1:10:59what has previously been an uproarious

1:11:01comedy that that in the scene where

1:11:04Walter Matthau throws the beer at the

1:11:08head of tatum o'neal when she's

1:11:09suggesting that he and his and her mom

1:11:13get back together again and he says God

1:11:15if I wanted to get back together I would

1:11:17have looked you up two years ago and

1:11:18that was there so many scenes here where

1:11:21where Matthew know as a reprobate he's

1:11:24he's he gets so angry and he's clearly

1:11:26teetering on the brink of violence and

1:11:28hold himself back at the last minute we

1:11:30actually my wife and I counted how many

1:11:32times a walter matthau curses and

1:11:34children in this movie and it is

1:11:36innocent the double digits yeah it's

1:11:38delightful

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1:13:03sponsoring the uncomfortable one of the

1:13:06nice things about this is that Vic

1:13:08Morrow scene where he where he boils

1:13:10over and and smacks his son on the mound

1:13:13at this point in the movie

1:13:15things have gotten you know they go up

1:13:18and down but it's really like continuing

1:13:19to crank up the bad behavior especially

1:13:21the parents you know and you kind of

1:13:23forgive it because it's simmering there

1:13:25it's like it's bad you're like ok these

1:13:27people are bad it's a commentary on it

1:13:29they're behaving outrageously but you

1:13:30know it's still funny and I'm gonna

1:13:32laugh at it and then Vic Mauro hits this

1:13:35kid at and that's the moment and then

1:13:37it's silent and that's the moment when

1:13:39you realize not only is this I'm

1:13:40acceptable but lots of other things that

1:13:42you kind of let go are also unacceptable

1:13:44leaving right this is a really great

1:13:46moment when there's still a bit of grip

1:13:48that's still a bit of crescendo left

1:13:50yeah we're math math was continuing to

1:13:52spiral out of control even after seeing

1:13:54this and then he gives his don't you

1:13:56want to beat those bastards speech and

1:13:58then and then that scene there we get

1:14:00close-ups of all the incredulous players

1:14:03totally silent yeah and then you get

1:14:04this lingering shot of Matthew and you

1:14:06see that the dawning realization of he

1:14:10knows what he's becoming up is so damn

1:14:12good he almost looks like he's going to

1:14:13cry there

1:14:14yeah and it's it's just that it's a

1:14:16heart-rending and wonderful moment

1:14:18because that's when he realizes he needs

1:14:19to pull it back and and put in the case

1:14:22you haven't played yet let them play

1:14:24even though it means they're gonna lose

1:14:25the game

1:14:25yeah the moral of this movie is that you

1:14:27have to care slightly more about winning

1:14:30than zero so Buttermaker has to learn a

1:14:33little bit at the beginning of the movie

1:14:35but you should not care a whole lot

1:14:37about winning yet you care

1:14:39I think about thirty percent otherwise

1:14:41your monster in either direction and of

1:14:43course that we should point out that the

1:14:45movie ends with after they've lost

1:14:47Buttermaker handing out beers 211

1:14:49it's still great and then the parents

1:14:51are just hoisting their kids around they

1:14:53clearly don't give a damn that the kids

1:14:54are toting beers this is probably the

1:14:56first game any of the parents of

1:14:57attended and the one person you express

1:14:59concern is all their cameras here we

1:15:02told this

1:15:03yeah that's that's a big concern that's

1:15:06what's the politician of course the one

1:15:08that's concerned about it so that one

1:15:09kid's been riding a motor

1:15:10cycle without a helmet the whole movie

1:15:12my was things were done with the nature

1:15:15of the day as opposed to when the entire

1:15:16team is writing in Buttermaker scar

1:15:18without me seatbelt as he's drinking

1:15:21yeah yeah yeah that's okay too it's

1:15:23worth mentioning that this that if there

1:15:25ever was a movie they've got growing up

1:15:27seventies just right yeah it's totally

1:15:29this one is I mean from the from Little

1:15:31League night at the pizza hut really

1:15:33should be a Shakey's but you know close

1:15:35it's whatever your God you know the

1:15:37scene in the arcade is great where

1:15:38there's nothing behind but pinball

1:15:40possess base invaders didn't come out

1:15:42yet

1:15:42yeah also also I enjoy the fact that the

1:15:45Yankees have sponsored by dennys and

1:15:47Danny's got its own promotional

1:15:48consideration credit in the movie and I

1:15:51reply I just imagine the executives at

1:15:53dennys going sit watching the screening

1:15:55of this movie good we did not agree to

1:15:58play sponsored by we sponsor the team of

1:16:01the man who strikes a child i noticed

1:16:03chico of chico's bail bonds was smart

1:16:05enough not how it is maybe that is a

1:16:06beautiful setup the the UK because it's

1:16:09just natural that these kids have

1:16:11danny's on their backs and these kids

1:16:13have pizza hut on their backs and then

1:16:15because because I Buttermaker has had to

1:16:18sell his own sponsorships to get the

1:16:19uniforms chicos bail bonds on the bits

1:16:22oh that's a good joke i don't i don't

1:16:24know if that's the greatest visual joke

1:16:26in the history of movies because it is

1:16:29the top 10 it's especially great about

1:16:32that is that it's he gets the uniforms

1:16:35and hand them out to the kids several

1:16:36scenes before that yeah they could have

1:16:38taken the opportunity right then to tell

1:16:40that you but they wait and it's subtle

1:16:42because you don't see even remotely a

1:16:44bit of the back of the uniform but you

1:16:46don't even think about it because it's

1:16:48just it's played so well they don't do

1:16:50any of those camera tricks that make it

1:16:51very clear that they're not showing you

1:16:52the back and who could this be it just

1:16:54it just comes up later and then you

1:16:56laugh could just be showing us these

1:16:57kids lined up and ready to go and also

1:16:59I'd i believe they show that during the

1:17:01National and as the nationally out of

1:17:03this being something they smoke they

1:17:04show all the sponsors of the teams and

1:17:06there's chicos bail bonds

1:17:08there's a lot of scenes like that works

1:17:09there doing the Pledge of Allegiance and

1:17:11and Walter Matthau was reading the

1:17:13Pledge of Allegiance because he doesn't

1:17:14know yes and

1:17:16and you look at modern day baseball

1:17:18where they interrupt games for to play

1:17:21God Bless America and you think boy the

1:17:23bad news bears was ahead of its yeah

1:17:25yeah one of the things i think really

1:17:26makes the Chico's bail bonds joke land

1:17:28is that they do a different joke first

1:17:31because they told you all of the good

1:17:33colors are taken and that means that the

1:17:36badges bears end up with yellow and

1:17:38white

1:17:38yeah which is kind of cool if you look

1:17:41at the final game there are people in

1:17:42the stage wearing yellow and white

1:17:44mhm they've got a fan base yeah but you

1:17:47think because they've done the joke will

1:17:50see they got the bad colors there's not

1:17:52another job coming there is Erica you

1:17:55are you are not a you're a 40 movie fan

1:17:58and not a huge baseball fan what was

1:18:00your take on the bad news bears i am

1:18:02also not a fan of movies from the

1:18:04seventies to sort of in general i'm

1:18:07gerry was that racist decade for movies

1:18:09huh you guys thought that the pride of

1:18:13the Yankees was long i felt like this

1:18:14this to me you even though it's only a

1:18:16hundred two minutes felt at least half

1:18:18again as long while as pride of the

1:18:20Yankees it just just that style of

1:18:22filmmaking where everywhere you get a

1:18:24reaction shot from every single

1:18:26character in strong words from Canada

1:18:29just it just doesn't where there are a

1:18:32lot of reaction shots of every

1:18:33Samaritans reaction show everything just

1:18:36stretches out it just feels so so kind

1:18:39of gradient and realistic and that is i

1:18:42like the the shiny happy 47th nobody's

1:18:45naturalistic and nobody reacts in the

1:18:47nineteen forties so they just accept

1:18:49what happens on speed and there's a

1:18:52musical number dammit where is the music

1:18:54/ bad news bears everyone is gross in

1:18:56nineteen seventies much so just like

1:18:58everyone in the nineteen seventies see I

1:19:00don't want that I've experienced you

1:19:02know a part of the nineteen seventies

1:19:04and Phil thinks i think this whole movie

1:19:06was shot with natural light but there's

1:19:09a lot of shots like no natural light

1:19:10doesn't actually show up in butter

1:19:12makers handed anyone that may be the way

1:19:19it does look III it looks and i'm going

1:19:23to take this based also on what Erika

1:19:25said I think this movie looks great but

1:19:28it looks great in the sense that it kind

1:19:29of look

1:19:30gross i ng it is the rng fit is a

1:19:33seventies I mean it he has got that

1:19:36crappy car the AA it you know it is it

1:19:40it feels very seventies to me but any in

1:19:43a nostalgic away because a lot of movies

1:19:45from the seventies are in portraying

1:19:46things that I didn't experience when I

1:19:48was a kid in the seventies but this this

1:19:50is something i did experience and it was

1:19:52just like this the only difference

1:19:53honestly is that where I played peewee

1:19:56baseball there with the field didn't

1:19:59have grass all we had was dirt we

1:20:01practiced on dirt i do want to make it

1:20:04clear though that I I recognize all the

1:20:06things you guys are saying and I I

1:20:07understand why people like this film so

1:20:11I'm not saying it's terrible it's just

1:20:12very much not for me however i really

1:20:14liked the end I had never seen it before

1:20:16I never actually saw this film so I was

1:20:18expecting when Walter Matthau outputs in

1:20:21the lousy kids i was expecting that

1:20:23somehow they were gonna pull it out and

1:20:25they were going to win and I was like

1:20:26this is terrible this is teaching the

1:20:27wrong lesson but then they lost and I

1:20:30was like all right you know what I'm I'm

1:20:31kind of on board with this movie now I

1:20:33appreciate this so the right lesson then

1:20:34is when you take second place throw your

1:20:36pitiful trophy and curses and have a

1:20:39beer

1:20:40let me let me let me lay a truth bomb on

1:20:43you they actually filmed two endings and

1:20:47this is it is the right thing

1:20:49this is according to both of the actors

1:20:51who played Toby andrew d steyn they they

1:20:55get it two ways that Kelly leak is

1:20:57called out at the plate and Kelly leak

1:20:59is called safe at the plate and the

1:21:03actors the kids didn't actually know how

1:21:05the movie edited and they tested the

1:21:08films and audiences did not really like

1:21:11the one with the Bears win

1:21:13good for them I daresay that would ruin

1:21:16the entire film yeah

1:21:17yep the director Michael Richie took

1:21:19some of the kids out for dinner before

1:21:21the before the premiere and said hey so

1:21:24here's how the movie you made actually

1:21:26ends and they're all yeah makes sense

1:21:28and yeah and i think i like y'all's aids

1:21:32it's it would not have been a good movie

1:21:35if the bad news bears win that game you

1:21:37know if they win the morale of the movie

1:21:39would be even a bad team can win

1:21:42if they get enough ringers Yeah right

1:21:44right button that's one of the problems

1:21:46with this movie is the fact that two

1:21:48ringers one good picture and one good

1:21:49hitter is really not enough to overcome

1:21:51the handicap of the rest of the team

1:21:53well you don't know that because they're

1:21:55so bad in the first game because of the

1:21:57pitching

1:21:58yeah right like really really Stein is

1:22:00really bringing that team down like one

1:22:02of the things i like about the movies

1:22:04that it honors the baseball side of it

1:22:05we're clearly their biggest flaw is

1:22:08their inability to pitch so you bring in

1:22:11a good picture somebody to learn to

1:22:13curveball at nine so she's definitely

1:22:15gonna need elbow surgery at some point

1:22:16right

1:22:17shortly after this movie it looks like

1:22:19yeah immediately after the last day here

1:22:22in fact admittedly they do show that the

1:22:24other kids have learned to hit around

1:22:26the CMYK Goldberg can can hit only could

1:22:29have hit in the first game just they

1:22:30never got too bad it didn't forget about

1:22:32and Ahmed can can can hit ya i don't

1:22:36like the same lupus catches that ball to

1:22:38send it to the bottom of the knife

1:22:40yes like in wkrp in cincinnati yes

1:22:42that's your that's your big victory

1:22:44moment right there

1:22:45that'sthat's to compensate for you not

1:22:47seeing the team win at the end you at

1:22:48least see lupus lupus caches of all that

1:22:50wonderful happy moment where they all

1:22:52run out and celebrate Lucas's catch

1:22:54probably more violently than they would

1:22:55celebrate actually winning the game so

1:22:57can i point out how fascinating this

1:22:59movie is in the sense that it has all of

1:23:02the code all of the sudden code words

1:23:04all of the words that are derogatory

1:23:06toward other races young and the team is

1:23:10remarkably diverse the only diverse team

1:23:14the team is being gay boy they put they

1:23:16put the Mexican kids and the black kid

1:23:18on this team

1:23:19then if they've got their share of

1:23:21indistinguishable blonde kids to they do

1:23:24there are some yeah but an appointment

1:23:27because that one is the politicians kid

1:23:29who for some reason couldn't get into

1:23:30another team they all hate him

1:23:31baby sucks yeah he seems quite

1:23:33indispensable read more on who naturally

1:23:35would not be on another team elsewhere

1:23:37and ahmad he's got a he's got an aha

1:23:40moment at one point that's really funny

1:23:43this is for Allah and it's going way out

1:23:45this sucks okay yeah pretty much

1:23:48yeah it was Miss direction when he was

1:23:50first introduced to me that I want to

1:23:52play where Hank Aaron played in my head

1:23:53I'm like oh Claire Wisconsin

1:23:55my dad feeling better Hank Aaron plane

1:23:59and one who wouldn't work generally and

1:24:01then he pulls off all of his all these

1:24:03uniforms when he's at me and he climbs

1:24:04up in the tree which is great and

1:24:06without goes and gets them

1:24:07hey this is nice for baseball near that

1:24:09I am I I actually spent much of sunday

1:24:11morning this week thinking about well

1:24:14would a child idolizing 1976 if they

1:24:18were if they were 11 years old and and

1:24:22and I i thought yeah probably Hank area

1:24:24most likely Reggie Jackson yeah I felt

1:24:27like a mod didn't get a lot of screen

1:24:29time but his story was picked up and

1:24:32expanded for the character of Willie

1:24:34Mays Hayes in baby yeah I guess what he

1:24:37wants to be a power hitter but really he

1:24:40should be hitting the ball on the ground

1:24:41running it out

1:24:42he's a little Brock tight yeah I also

1:24:44like the aguilar kids

1:24:47no yeah they are they're great and and

1:24:49they're there are several moments where

1:24:51they just say things in spanish and they

1:24:53kill me

1:24:53it's it's so fun and Tanner's response

1:24:56when they're they're talking about Kelly

1:24:57leak and the kid says something

1:24:58incomprehensible in Spanish and he says

1:25:00I don't know what he's talking about

1:25:01what I like it was also an orange like

1:25:03this of diet Diablo like that and if i'm

1:25:07gonna use can't leave to be believed in

1:25:10the trivia section of imdb.com of those

1:25:13kids spoke a look a spanish really

1:25:17really yeah i know they they spoke

1:25:19English perfectly that may have to be

1:25:21taught spanish right and and then you

1:25:22get the idea delfin with yeah we'll be

1:25:24doing well where he's just so small that

1:25:26they can't they just have to walk him

1:25:28because you can't pitch to that kid

1:25:30that's only that but it's funny because

1:25:32then you've got the foul-mouthed kid who

1:25:34is who is you know probably repeating

1:25:37from their parents every horrible awful

1:25:42thing you could say about people of

1:25:43other races and they and they almost and

1:25:46they turn that around to it's like well

1:25:48they're all on our team so it's a it's a

1:25:52it's fascinating to me that that it is

1:25:54both so just like giving the kids beer

1:25:55at the end it's tough to it that a movie

1:25:57would not do today I think and it's and

1:26:00it's uncomfortable and yet I really the

1:26:03only the only film our or our creative

1:26:06endeavor that could get away

1:26:07that is south park and that's because

1:26:09they're animated spread em

1:26:11have you guys seen the movie kids by

1:26:12harmony Kareem ok we have a may have a

1:26:16big Hollywood production ok studio yeah

1:26:18something else that I don't think a

1:26:20modern movie would do today at least not

1:26:22a modern movie like this that's

1:26:24ostensibly a comedy aimed at kids is I I

1:26:27think it's one of my favorite things

1:26:28about the movie it's the fact that this

1:26:30at least in large part is kind of a tale

1:26:33of redemption for Buttermaker but it's a

1:26:35really minor Redemption yeah i mean he's

1:26:38not really

1:26:3915 it's not it's not like a league of

1:26:41their own where he like stop drinking

1:26:44and no why are you still a drunk and you

1:26:47get that they're gonna keep drinking it

1:26:48when he yeah i mean he's still sitting

1:26:50in the dugout drinking course in that

1:26:51championship not given any hands up

1:26:53here's to the kids to track them what

1:26:54drag them down to it's a story of a guy

1:26:56who doesn't care anymore becoming a guy

1:26:59who who cares

1:26:59yeah right nothing else is repaired in

1:27:02him but he goes from being he is totally

1:27:04disaffected he's not he's not talking to

1:27:07to a ceremonial anymore to Amanda he is

1:27:13just cleaning pools he's only doing this

1:27:15gig because he's getting paid by the

1:27:17city councilman or whatever and then by

1:27:18and and and he starts to turn was like

1:27:20no no we're going to play anyway but by

1:27:22the end he's like he's got the proper

1:27:24perspective about like letting the kids

1:27:26be kids

1:27:26he's got the perspective that the

1:27:27parents of all the other teams don't

1:27:29have so he's got out he he cares and he

1:27:32likes those kids that's his progression

1:27:34the rest of his life is a shambles but

1:27:37that is a progression for him and that's

1:27:39a reasonable progression it's not you

1:27:41know it and a modern movie would have

1:27:42him completely turn around and do that

1:27:45yet league of their own yeah he'd get a

1:27:46new job by the end of the movie right

1:27:48right i will say this for the bad news

1:27:50bears though it was it was more a movie

1:27:52about baseball than pride of the Yankees

1:27:55is that we want to thank you later so

1:27:56hostile is more movie about baseball

1:28:00is that this is a movie about bad

1:28:02baseball players for the most part so

1:28:04you just have the kids actually do their

1:28:05thing I thought that was good to the the

1:28:08portrayal of the than playing baseball

1:28:10was was I thought fairly accurate and as

1:28:12i said in the series of tweets to fill

1:28:14while I was watching it

1:28:15they had defensive shifts and the kids

1:28:17studying the the the scoresheet and

1:28:20talking about the stats so that they

1:28:21totally totally Moneyball movie too i

1:28:23love the defensive shift where they're

1:28:25like the kid gets up there always hits

1:28:26to left field and and Buttermaker just

1:28:28like go go over there and there's like

1:28:30five kids in the field that was great

1:28:32that was really funny you know weirdly

1:28:34enough considering how I feel about

1:28:36baseball

1:28:37the baseball scenes were actually my

1:28:38favorite part of this movie if they

1:28:39would have trimmed out all the

1:28:40relationship stuff in just one more

1:28:42baseball i think i would have liked it

1:28:43you see you've guessed encapsulated my

1:28:46feelings about grow older term which I

1:28:49love the baseball scene in that movie

1:28:50and I hate everything

1:28:53oh my goodness but that's not a movie we

1:28:56saw

1:28:56now that's that is not the movies I know

1:28:58asleep during both of our moms later but

1:29:00I yeah but member jmo goofy i really

1:29:04like that nobody makes fun of him for

1:29:05knowing everything about baseball

1:29:07no use for them yeah knowing these

1:29:09things and he's basically the assistant

1:29:11manager one of my favorite shots of the

1:29:13movie is when amanda has has thrown her

1:29:16curveball a whole feature insta-buck

1:29:19maker does this very elaborate handshake

1:29:22like good job boss he was my favorite by

1:29:28fire oh yeah oh he is the best bear that

1:29:31turned to Stephen I was like I like that

1:29:33guy is the greatest I mean I i watch

1:29:35when i was little i saw the sequel's

1:29:37which don't want terrible kind and

1:29:40patient there are not even here there is

1:29:42a 3-bedroom no Matthew no sale man I

1:29:47even watched the TV show version which

1:29:50is also yeah it's ok it's passable at

1:29:52the same time and Ogilvy is the best

1:29:54part of that two totally different actor

1:29:56but Tanner Tanner gets my bad i love

1:29:59Tanner every line is hilarious just like

1:30:02the way overly is introduced as he's the

1:30:05kind of kid who knows everything

1:30:08who knows a baseball player knows that

1:30:11Hank Aaron played second base no one

1:30:13knows

1:30:13thank you to the listening audience in

1:30:17case you're young before we had

1:30:19baseball-reference nerds had to memorize

1:30:21a giant hardbound book the baseball is

1:30:24always liked it yeah yeah speaking of

1:30:26which baseball nerds that are nerdier

1:30:28about baseball than me the story that

1:30:30that Buttermaker tells up in the tree to

1:30:32a mod about Hank Aaron having I guess a

1:30:34rough season or some point he was

1:30:36nine-years-old total bullcrap

1:30:40I sort of assumed that was a fake story

1:30:42because that's kind of a moment where

1:30:43Buttermaker starts to turn around and

1:30:46realize that he's easy i have some

1:30:48redeeming qualities left to give

1:30:50yeah so it's a wonderful moment in the

1:30:53movie but it's it's it's Buttermaker

1:30:55locking through it's actually better

1:30:58that it is

1:30:58yes Father look it up there and there is

1:31:01a school of thought that says the bad

1:31:02news bears in breaking training which is

1:31:05the second movie is a passable

1:31:08entertainment

1:31:09no I don't know but I i disagree with

1:31:12that I do like they play game in the

1:31:14astrodome which is a lovely and there's

1:31:17the moment where all the fans chant let

1:31:19them play and then pulling and Tanner

1:31:22Boyle has this moment in the in the Sun

1:31:24if you like the Tanner Boyle character

1:31:26had no the the day certainly do not

1:31:30watch the bad news bears go to Japan

1:31:32when your mark Easter's are Tony Curtis

1:31:35from me just children we just slide and

1:31:39yep

1:31:39yeah Wow and they go to join after the

1:31:43title spoilers

1:31:44it's in the night yeah we already called

1:31:47out Vic Morrow for being so superb at

1:31:49being awful in this

1:31:51yeah I think I think joyce Van Patten

1:31:52deserves almost much credit yeah he's

1:31:54terrible has happened baby what is your

1:31:56problem really awful choose related to

1:32:00mama Gehrig and I think probably the

1:32:02best seed is where she comes out and

1:32:03presents that pitiful second-place

1:32:05treasure

1:32:06smarmy grin on her face I would like to

1:32:09briefly make a couple quick points1

1:32:11Engelberg is not that fat

1:32:13these days hmm ya see mi 617 all three

1:32:20boobies wild and offer a character whose

1:32:23only character trait is fat and always

1:32:25eating i want circus great fat he's also

1:32:27foul mouth that doesn't really stick out

1:32:30much

1:32:31ok mommy i'll give you he's no fat boy

1:32:34from greatest show on her i laughed out

1:32:37loud at the scene where they jump over

1:32:38the fence and he he just bites into the

1:32:41the candy and I think to myself

1:32:43do you just eat that with the Rambler

1:32:45member and then they'll be the great

1:32:47local PD says could you at least take

1:32:50off the record I kind of like the fact

1:32:53that on this team of rejects the reject

1:32:55who's that way because he's a geek is

1:32:56probably the least reject full of all

1:32:58hungry yeah and when they go to the

1:33:00ballet class he's eating an entire

1:33:01bucket of fried chicken himself but he's

1:33:04nice enough to offer it to one of the

1:33:06random ladies want to be yeah and that

1:33:08is my favorite Tanner Boyle moment

1:33:10you've talked about where the late Bell

1:33:12teacher says I'm trying to teach a class

1:33:14here you're not doing a very good job of

1:33:16it no one here can dance for bettors

1:33:18yeah yeah yeah yeahs that dance classes

1:33:21really not very good that it is bad and

1:33:23no deal is not particularly good idea no

1:33:25she's not she really should work on a

1:33:27curveball I also want to highlight how

1:33:30wonderful that Joey's revenge scene is

1:33:32where after he's been slapped to the

1:33:34mound his responses that it's one

1:33:37straight back to him and he just brings

1:33:38up all the cum batter thrown into his

1:33:41mitt yeah it's a mystery it's attacked

1:33:43with a brick wall out yeah yeah that

1:33:46that is a great moment

1:33:47Engelbert gets the inside the park

1:33:49homerun he still is still terrible is

1:33:52still the worst bear but I think that's

1:33:54gonna be scored as defensive

1:33:55indifference

1:33:56yeah maybe fielder's choice something I

1:33:59was for the first time watching this

1:34:01time was that in the end credits there's

1:34:03a section where they list the bears and

1:34:05there's actually a part that says the

1:34:06bears at the top and they have all the

1:34:08kids that they're on the team and butter

1:34:10maker and Joey Turner actually is

1:34:12included in that grouping he's

1:34:13considered a member of the Bears

1:34:15presumably because of his turnaround are

1:34:17you

1:34:17also a little a little thing that i love

1:34:20is that on the scoreboard this league

1:34:22has got nice printed signs for the names

1:34:24of all the TN the six core teams and in

1:34:26the scoreboard those those teams are

1:34:28always with their names on the signs and

1:34:30then handwritten in a scroll is better

1:34:33because they don't merit a sign

1:34:35throughout the season nobody ever said

1:34:37they might be back next week should we

1:34:39know

1:34:40nope no they're not even back in the

1:34:43final game people were leaving the

1:34:45stands during the last better

1:34:47yeah 20 lb traffic or so these are the

1:34:50better and help you gotta get to the

1:34:52dennys for the celebratory to enter

1:34:54their parents of the indigent in this

1:34:57they're all going to come out and drive

1:35:00everybody home you can stay for one more

1:35:03batter guys they're going to warm up the

1:35:05AC is hot out there to la la land was

1:35:08ours

1:35:08ya know northern san fernando valley is

1:35:10quite awful out there really no humanity

1:35:13lives in San Fernando Valley

1:35:15I love that last scene where the camera

1:35:17pulls back and and what we see is on one

1:35:20side we see the Bears all happy and

1:35:22celebrating and pouring beer on each

1:35:24other because they lost and on the other

1:35:26side you see the Yankees sort of quietly

1:35:27walking away with their gigantic trophy

1:35:29it's such a nice contrast yeah yeah i

1:35:33also just like that the White Sox are

1:35:35another team with problems like it's not

1:35:38that the bad news bears are awful

1:35:40everybody else is perfect the way tax

1:35:42couldn't even put together nine kids

1:35:43right someone had to go to a face some

1:35:46of them some of them had the flu some of

1:35:48them where the faith vent money you got

1:35:51a bit dodgy athletics the Athletics you

1:35:54know they're the worst team in the

1:35:55league

1:35:55well second word sends us i love letter

1:35:58yeah the source the source of this the

1:36:01name of this movie is it's really kind

1:36:03of sweep we're playing the Athletics

1:36:05what does that mean bad news for the

1:36:07Athletics that was really sweet I like

1:36:09one of things i enjoy again as a as a

1:36:12really awful baseball Kiku should not be

1:36:17having conversations with civilized

1:36:19human beings is it like really

1:36:22determining why they picked the team

1:36:24that got us the bigger pic pick the team

1:36:28names that they did because the

1:36:29Athletics are picked because

1:36:31in 1976 hey they recently won three

1:36:33World Series in a row and the White Sox

1:36:36and the matsuri are all teams and yeah

1:36:39and the Yankees of course of the Yankees

1:36:42so why not

1:36:43but but it just it's one of those things

1:36:47i find fascinating just like deciding he

1:36:51should really like Reggie Jackson as

1:36:52opposed to and Karen and erin was in the

1:36:54last year of his career in 97 may have a

1:36:56problem

1:36:57this yeah i understand that if you want

1:36:59to set up a team to be the bad guys just

1:37:01call him the yanks call me out there and

1:37:02it's easy to what i like is that they're

1:37:04all models on major league baseball

1:37:05teams and then the Bears are not even

1:37:07like know they're just there and there's

1:37:09team within the stupid hat with the bear

1:37:11on it and it's just it's like yeah I

1:37:13love that team photo that's used both in

1:37:16the in the credits and and earlier in

1:37:18the movie where we're butter makers hold

1:37:20his beer and ankle Bert can't be

1:37:23bothered to but not sure I can't button

1:37:27his shirt he's physically own column and

1:37:29separate now exactly such an awful team

1:37:32and yet endearing remains my scrappy

1:37:35they are like a whole team of David

1:37:37Eckstein oh except for heli codes

1:37:40claimed he was hitting 841 if I would

1:37:44walk him to it now absolutely but he's

1:37:47telling that to the to like 40 year old

1:37:49woman have dance class

1:37:50yeah he's trying to impress just like in

1:37:52pride of the Yankees if you're somebody

1:37:55tries to intentionally walk you you

1:37:56reach for that ball

1:37:58that's right yeah intentional walks are

1:38:00for suckers good movie

1:38:02yeah yeah that's fine it's really yeah i

1:38:04loved it actually yeah it's it's a

1:38:07really good one

1:38:08this has been an excellent addition of

1:38:10the old movie club i believe and a

1:38:12fitting for the beginning of the

1:38:14baseball season it's been a grand slam

1:38:16oh wow breakfast brought to you by

1:38:19nearby when you think of Jenny's think

1:38:25of a repulsive

1:38:27she just like I do it

1:38:30yeah moons over my hammy thinking

1:38:33getting your kids slapped in front of

1:38:35everyone

1:38:36Danny's for child apiece so many nice

1:38:39little details in this movie I like the

1:38:40Chico's Bail Bonds has a logo of the

1:38:42liberty bell with the crack in it and

1:38:44let freedom reign the motto is a good

1:38:46memory

1:38:49alright time to wrap up this edition of

1:38:53the old movie club Steve let's thanks

1:38:56for being here

1:38:57Jason tonight I consider myself the

1:38:59luckiest panelist on the face of this

1:39:00earth

1:39:01well put David Laura thank you babe all

1:39:05ok that's what I'm going off into the

1:39:09shadows

1:39:10yeah that's what we slice it into the

1:39:11air and very poignant I said weeping but

1:39:13what you couldn't see because this is a

1:39:15podcast is him walking up a job as

1:39:18alright it's exactly what you saw and

1:39:20there he goes into the tunnel mighty

1:39:22Ashley thank you i'm going to restrict

1:39:23my bad news bears group to just saying

1:39:25crud as all the other one thing i would

1:39:28probably get out would be good by you

1:39:33booger-eating moron done that and you

1:39:38didn't ya

1:39:39Erica and sign thank you for being here

1:39:40and watching movies from the forties in

1:39:42another movie that was gross and the

1:39:44other movie yeah I'm just gonna go back

1:39:46and do some scrapbooking in the jigsaw

1:39:48puzzle at this kind i think very nice

1:39:50it's going to be a scrap book that tells

1:39:52the story of Lou Gehrig's career that

1:39:53every awesome IRA compressing fresh

1:39:56flowers into your scrapbook by the way

1:39:58oh yeah maybe you can make a scrapbook

1:40:00about this podcast got a page about the

1:40:02time we talked about Gary again

1:40:04no but she does that then all of a

1:40:06sudden by the time she gets to the end

1:40:07of the year 2030 oh my god

1:40:10sure and one of us will die a horrible

1:40:11that's how time passes and movies is

1:40:13scrapbooks you kidding

1:40:15scrapbooks are the silent killer you

1:40:17think they really don't buy a calendar

1:40:19with a page a day that's cool yeah

1:40:21that's really well don't don't put it

1:40:23near fan where they might blow pages off

1:40:26oh yeah and Phil Michaels thank you for

1:40:29the selections these were excellent

1:40:30we'll have to come back maybe next year

1:40:32next season and do a a

1:40:35podcast about all the other many

1:40:37baseball movies that are out there but

1:40:38these were to excellence elections and I

1:40:40i enjoyed them both and i absolutely

1:40:43love the bad news bears so thank you for

1:40:45choosing them

1:40:46Jason I don't care if I ever come back

1:40:48foot and everybody out there happy

1:40:53baseball season thanks for listening to

1:40:54be uncomfortable we hope you enjoyed

1:40:56listening to old movie club will be back

1:40:58again with another one at some point if

1:41:00we don't die of old age between now and

1:41:02then

1:41:02thanks for listening goodbye

1:41:21the crack of the bat the roar of the

1:41:29crowd that's right baseball's back hello

1:41:31New York I'm bill McNeal join us opening

1:41:33day live from Yankee Stadium for all the

1:41:34action

1:41:35the boys of summer in wnyx a winning

1:41:38team