The Incomparable

241: Shopping With Mrs. Gehrig


00:00:00   the incomparable number 241 april twenty [TS]

00:00:11   years to play ball [TS]

00:00:16   welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:17   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason L it [TS]

00:00:19   is time for another episode of old movie [TS]

00:00:23   club or muvico full movie clips where we [TS]

00:00:26   watch an old movie and then or two or [TS]

00:00:28   three or five and then we talk about [TS]

00:00:30   them and to celebrate baseball's opening [TS]

00:00:33   week we have picked to baseball movies [TS]

00:00:38   so let me introduce my panelists David [TS]

00:00:41   lure hello hello Monty Ashley thanks for [TS]

00:00:44   being here [TS]

00:00:45   hello Erica and sign batter up I know [TS]

00:00:48   how much you love somebody who loves [TS]

00:00:50   baseball [TS]

00:00:50   I what I am just excited to be here when [TS]

00:00:53   we're talking about a movie that was [TS]

00:00:55   made in my preferred area of moviemaking [TS]

00:00:57   so I'm threat that's true that's true [TS]

00:00:59   well said Steve let's uh who voices the [TS]

00:01:02   old movie club theme song hello hello [TS]

00:01:04   there [TS]

00:01:05   play ball Jason voices is the term you [TS]

00:01:09   use and here as always the man who picks [TS]

00:01:13   the old movies on old movie club the old [TS]

00:01:15   man who picks the old movies on old [TS]

00:01:17   movie club it's phillip michael oh thank [TS]

00:01:19   you i feel like i never left [TS]

00:01:21   indeed so what do you what do you have [TS]

00:01:24   for us to explain yourself so so as you [TS]

00:01:26   mentioned it's it's baseball season at [TS]

00:01:29   some point soon when Morgan this is [TS]

00:01:32   about it is the opening week will yes [TS]

00:01:35   yeah baseball season is about to start [TS]

00:01:37   or just started depending on when you [TS]

00:01:39   are listening or started a long time ago [TS]

00:01:40   if you listen to this late [TS]

00:01:42   some teams are probably playing in japan [TS]

00:01:43   for some reason right now would be so it [TS]

00:01:48   got me thinking hey there's been a lot [TS]

00:01:49   of movies made about baseball over the [TS]

00:01:51   years some of them not so good some of [TS]

00:01:54   them okay [TS]

00:01:55   some of them I I kind of enjoy and and I [TS]

00:01:59   i picked a couple tonight 1a 1a [TS]

00:02:02   controversial pick under the under the [TS]

00:02:04   definition of old movie which we can get [TS]

00:02:06   to later but the other a a bit of a [TS]

00:02:09   classic in terms of in terms of when it [TS]

00:02:13   was made and the approach that the [TS]

00:02:16   filmmaker took with we're going to look [TS]

00:02:18   at pride of the Yankees from the [TS]

00:02:19   controversial pick under the definition [TS]

00:02:21   of movie [TS]

00:02:22   Wow [TS]

00:02:24   I get into that later 1942 his pride of [TS]

00:02:28   the yankees and 1976 'as the bad news [TS]

00:02:31   bearers let's start off with pride of [TS]

00:02:35   the Yankees might have made age before [TS]

00:02:37   beauty [TS]

00:02:38   I have lots of us about that 152 and [TS]

00:02:41   wrote some things down [TS]

00:02:43   well let me I i will quickly go through [TS]

00:02:45   the plot since basically it is the [TS]

00:02:47   biopic of lou gehrig uh perhaps the [TS]

00:02:51   greatest first baseman to ever ever play [TS]

00:02:53   the the grand game uh and as I think [TS]

00:02:57   Jason pointed out in in [TS]

00:02:59   hit it Twitter tonight it is the the [TS]

00:03:03   life of lou gehrig in real time because [TS]

00:03:05   i don't remember the movie being this [TS]

00:03:08   slow i don't remember but it it goes on [TS]

00:03:11   for a little shade over 2 hours and and [TS]

00:03:14   it feels like two hours [TS]

00:03:16   I didn't think so oh well you'll get a [TS]

00:03:19   chance to to rebut are cruel arguments [TS]

00:03:21   later [TS]

00:03:22   um yeah let me quickly just go through [TS]

00:03:25   the plot because they there's not a lot [TS]

00:03:27   of twists and turns here Lou Gehrig's [TS]

00:03:29   born Lou Gehrig's born luke air grows a [TS]

00:03:32   playing baseball lou gehrig goes to [TS]

00:03:33   Columbia he's really good at sports [TS]

00:03:36   he signs with the Yankees the Yankees [TS]

00:03:38   are a really good baseball team and [TS]

00:03:40   largely because of lou gherig has a [TS]

00:03:41   little bit of a friendly rivalry with [TS]

00:03:44   Babe Ruth please himself in the movie [TS]

00:03:46   lou gehrig meets a nice girl the the [TS]

00:03:49   lovely Teresa Wright one of my favorite [TS]

00:03:52   actresses lou gehrig wins many many many [TS]

00:03:55   awards he has a newspaper man who is his [TS]

00:03:58   best friend and you never leaves his [TS]

00:04:00   side and which when i'm sure we will [TS]

00:04:04   talk about good old Walter Brennan who [TS]

00:04:06   plays said newspaper man but then Lou [TS]

00:04:09   Gehrig gets gets sick you might have [TS]

00:04:11   heard of it Lou Gehrig's disease what [TS]

00:04:13   are the odds and he on yuh the movie [TS]

00:04:17   ends with him [TS]

00:04:18   spoiler alert the other guys at the end [TS]

00:04:21   now he doesn't have the walks he walks [TS]

00:04:23   off the set once often actually really [TS]

00:04:26   the maybe you haven't if you haven't [TS]

00:04:29   seen Lou Gehrig the the pride of the [TS]

00:04:30   Yankees you you've probably seen the [TS]

00:04:32   ending [TS]

00:04:32   yes because when this gets shown a lot [TS]

00:04:35   and for good reason it's the best part [TS]

00:04:37   of the movie is the most i think the [TS]

00:04:39   most emotionally resonant part but I'm [TS]

00:04:42   sure we'll get to that later one of the [TS]

00:04:44   reasons a I let me back up for a second [TS]

00:04:48   that this is a genre of movie that was [TS]

00:04:51   very popular in the nineteen thirties [TS]

00:04:54   nineteen forties and little bit into the [TS]

00:04:56   nineteen fifties that the baseball hero [TS]

00:04:58   biopic and generally speaking they're [TS]

00:05:03   not great movies they're kinda all cut [TS]

00:05:05   from the same cloth where it's the way [TS]

00:05:07   work hard and eat your vegetables Jimmy [TS]

00:05:09   and you can grow up to be like me one of [TS]

00:05:11   the ones that really stands out for me [TS]

00:05:13   as just an example of how mediocre and [TS]

00:05:17   middling these are is a movie called the [TS]

00:05:18   winning team which stars on a fellow by [TS]

00:05:21   the name of Ronald Reagan who went on to [TS]

00:05:23   other things [TS]

00:05:25   yeah never heard of anyone to act with a [TS]

00:05:27   chimp yes but enough about George Bush [TS]

00:05:29   is great and accuracy was a president [TS]

00:05:35   but he plays Peter Alexander in this [TS]

00:05:39   movie who was a bit notorious drunkard [TS]

00:05:42   and that that aspect of its touched on [TS]

00:05:47   briefly as i recall it's been years [TS]

00:05:48   since I've seen this picture but not in [TS]

00:05:50   not in to the extent that Peter [TS]

00:05:52   Alexander actually was a very a very [TS]

00:05:57   severe alcoholic and instead it's ronald [TS]

00:05:59   reagan and doris day and it's keep [TS]

00:06:00   trying and Peter Alexander you'll get [TS]

00:06:02   there soon and it-it-it it's not a very [TS]

00:06:06   good movie there are a bunch of others [TS]

00:06:08   that we could mention that are not very [TS]

00:06:09   good movies pride of the Yankees i think [TS]

00:06:11   is ok um and I think it's largely okay [TS]

00:06:14   based on the performances of Gary Cooper [TS]

00:06:16   and and Teresa right which is why I [TS]

00:06:18   kinda picked it i think it's a good [TS]

00:06:20   example of the best you can kind of hope [TS]

00:06:23   for in a [TS]

00:06:24   no a pre nineteen fifties baseball movie [TS]

00:06:28   where this will certainly be the most [TS]

00:06:30   earnest movie we ever picture for old [TS]

00:06:32   movie club there is no winks or nods to [TS]

00:06:35   the audience no hints at the darkness [TS]

00:06:37   that lurks in every man's heart that [TS]

00:06:40   this is just a straightforward [TS]

00:06:41   old-fashioned let's put on a show [TS]

00:06:44   and-and-and make the people leave with [TS]

00:06:48   the maybe a tear in their eye but also a [TS]

00:06:50   song in their heart about about what a [TS]

00:06:52   great guy who Gehrig was and it's [TS]

00:06:55   enjoyable you would've been more [TS]

00:06:56   enjoyable if it were better paste i [TS]

00:06:58   think but don't feel the word you're [TS]

00:07:01   looking for is hagiography this is an [TS]

00:07:03   elevation to godhood of the great Lou [TS]

00:07:05   Gehrig yes awesome [TS]

00:07:07   he was in all of the weight in every [TS]

00:07:10   aspect of life you know I think a lot of [TS]

00:07:12   the reason for that can be explained by [TS]

00:07:14   the fact that this was 1942 you just [TS]

00:07:18   mind as you read the oh he died later I [TS]

00:07:20   year previously here a year before [TS]

00:07:22   you're in a month in fact one of the [TS]

00:07:24   baseball players that you know but the [TS]

00:07:27   the live baseball players that they [TS]

00:07:29   pulled in to be actors in this film was [TS]

00:07:30   still active at the time right bill [TS]

00:07:32   Dickey right bill Dickey yeah also a [TS]

00:07:35   Hall of Fame baseball player but but [TS]

00:07:36   yeah but the fact that it's 1942 and if [TS]

00:07:39   you read the opening scroll it reads [TS]

00:07:40   like hey young soldiers off to war die [TS]

00:07:43   with dignity like lou gehrig yes indeed [TS]

00:07:46   the one of the rare films that is that [TS]

00:07:49   is that begins with a crawl written by a [TS]

00:07:52   writer just not connected with the the [TS]

00:07:55   story in any way [TS]

00:07:56   Damon Runyon was a sports writer and a [TS]

00:07:58   big big baseball cock and up that that [TS]

00:08:02   is the most mundane damon runyon thing [TS]

00:08:04   ever written he he's the author whose [TS]

00:08:07   stories returned into guys and dolls of [TS]

00:08:10   basically and and he you know it yet [TS]

00:08:14   there's a streak of cynicism and his [TS]

00:08:16   work that is not evident that crawl at [TS]

00:08:18   their own the movie people in this world [TS]

00:08:20   cynicism does not even exist [TS]

00:08:23   no oh no well yes it does in the form of [TS]

00:08:25   the evil of the evil reporter who is [TS]

00:08:29   your friend actually throttles at one [TS]

00:08:31   point another who is apparently a [TS]

00:08:34   stand-in for Ford Frick who became the [TS]

00:08:36   Commissioner of baseball [TS]

00:08:37   that's another story what so altogether [TS]

00:08:41   uh a confession i also picked this movie [TS]

00:08:43   because it features two characters who [TS]

00:08:46   were just I think monstrous and I really [TS]

00:08:50   wanted to be honest this this with this [TS]

00:08:53   one was for you Steve I'm gonna [TS]

00:08:57   disappoint you i think phil the Walter [TS]

00:08:59   Brennan character who is based on a real [TS]

00:09:02   sports writer named friendly but and is [TS]

00:09:04   a composite here but it's mostly [TS]

00:09:06   friendly it was very good friends with [TS]

00:09:07   lou gehrig and in this movie has I said [TS]

00:09:10   never leaves Lou Gehrig's I lou gehrig [TS]

00:09:13   is on the beach canoodling with his wife [TS]

00:09:15   i have had Walter Brennan pops into the [TS]

00:09:18   picture hey you how you doing here comes [TS]

00:09:21   better but it's do yeah can you imagine [TS]

00:09:23   a baseball player today going to the [TS]

00:09:25   doctor to get his results and [TS]

00:09:27   voluntarily bringing a reporter into the [TS]

00:09:29   room and keep it out of the papers ok [TS]

00:09:31   yes i will the reporter doing the whole [TS]

00:09:34   we're gonna we're gonna cover this up [TS]

00:09:36   no one's gonna find out the truth here [TS]

00:09:38   and but yes so there's the Walter [TS]

00:09:41   Brennan character and then the other [TS]

00:09:42   great monster of history that is [TS]

00:09:44   featured in this movie is mama Garrick [TS]

00:09:47   oh yeah man yeah she was the only way to [TS]

00:09:50   put any drama into the movie before the [TS]

00:09:52   end so they just made her the worst [TS]

00:09:54   person in the world [TS]

00:09:56   yeah I i have a phrase in so we're sort [TS]

00:10:00   of hopping around here i want my notes [TS]

00:10:01   about about mrs. Gehrig what she has a [TS]

00:10:06   great line where there is that series of [TS]

00:10:08   scenes where she goes shopping with mrs. [TS]

00:10:10   Geary which is not a thing you want to [TS]

00:10:12   do and no improvement with mrs. Geary [TS]

00:10:15   and at one point as they're putting up [TS]

00:10:18   the wallpaper that she's just bought [TS]

00:10:19   separately from what everybody else [TS]

00:10:21   expressed as the wallpaper that they [TS]

00:10:23   wanted in her son and his new wife's [TS]

00:10:25   bedroom she says oh this is much better [TS]

00:10:28   this is more practical wallpaper that me [TS]

00:10:30   laugh out more practical wallpaper [TS]

00:10:34   pattern [TS]

00:10:35   ok and what you don't want that MC [TS]

00:10:38   Escher wallpaper or that all paper that [TS]

00:10:40   get put in non-euclidean angles and [TS]

00:10:42   drives men bad it's simple but the issue [TS]

00:10:45   wallpaper you might actually walk out [TS]

00:10:47   the window or try to [TS]

00:10:48   door to get a breeze or even among Derek [TS]

00:10:51   is up [TS]

00:10:51   yes she'sshe's problematic she is the [TS]

00:10:54   key is the silent villain of this movie [TS]

00:10:56   and men in many aspects you know they [TS]

00:10:58   try and make a heel out of the out of [TS]

00:11:00   the snide cynical reporter who's babe [TS]

00:11:02   ruth's best buddy and who mocks lou [TS]

00:11:05   gehrig every turn until of course lou [TS]

00:11:07   gehrig is is is is sick and old but [TS]

00:11:10   there's a Seltzer fight at one point [TS]

00:11:12   there in their series of there is a [TS]

00:11:14   Seltzer fight yes but it if you ask me I [TS]

00:11:18   i really think mama Gehrig is this movie [TS]

00:11:20   is true monster I can't get mad at the [TS]

00:11:23   bad reporter because if you had your [TS]

00:11:24   choice to follow lou gehrig around and [TS]

00:11:26   get every story he feed you or follow [TS]

00:11:28   babe ruth around and get every story he [TS]

00:11:30   feeds you [TS]

00:11:31   you're gonna get a lot more material out [TS]

00:11:33   of paper and Alicia roof stuff is [TS]

00:11:35   unprintable well you can do that thing [TS]

00:11:40   about how we 815 hotdogs between its [TS]

00:11:42   dripping [TS]

00:11:43   that's right based on the evidence of [TS]

00:11:45   this movie Lou Gehrig never did anything [TS]

00:11:47   now [TS]

00:11:49   well he went to come on a lot of awards [TS]

00:11:51   and we played baseball [TS]

00:11:52   yeah he was a great baseball player but [TS]

00:11:54   you don't get the scoop to do to find [TS]

00:11:56   that out any beat up a guy in this [TS]

00:11:57   fraternity there was that [TS]

00:11:59   yeah I died by flying across the day [TS]

00:12:01   controversy and he was the apparently [TS]

00:12:03   the oldest freshman at Columbia you here [TS]

00:12:05   so get okay you just brought up several [TS]

00:12:07   things that i want to talk about one of [TS]

00:12:08   them is is that the challenge of a [TS]

00:12:14   portraying a life that is fine [TS]

00:12:18   yes again I like that they're so the [TS]

00:12:22   relationship is his marriage is nice and [TS]

00:12:28   they have a good thing they never let [TS]

00:12:30   the honeymoon and right they say that at [TS]

00:12:31   one point and at one point in my notes I [TS]

00:12:33   say lou and his wife sure do have fun [TS]

00:12:35   they wrestle with flowers and stuff and [TS]

00:12:40   what is that wacky rose throwing fight [TS]

00:12:42   seem forced oh man right it comes off [TS]

00:12:45   like that snowball fight in Groundhog [TS]

00:12:47   Day too many it's a challenge i mean [TS]

00:12:48   again you don't have to have I mean most [TS]

00:12:50   most marriages do not have movie level [TS]

00:12:53   drama but they don't try to make movies [TS]

00:12:56   out of those marriages and the this one [TS]

00:12:58   there's a movie and they're just every [TS]

00:13:00   time we see them it's like Oh [TS]

00:13:02   they're nice it's fine that that's why [TS]

00:13:03   mama gary i think is such a monster is [TS]

00:13:06   because they gotta do something to [TS]

00:13:08   complicate their their domestic life and [TS]

00:13:10   it is the monstrous mother-in-law Lucas [TS]

00:13:13   I didn't actually like i didn't i didn't [TS]

00:13:15   actually I love to Risa right but I [TS]

00:13:17   didn't like that character very much at [TS]

00:13:18   all at the beginning because you that [TS]

00:13:20   you can go through your hood [TS]

00:13:23   not that I mean that's just big deal but [TS]

00:13:25   Lou Gehrig is this he's just kind of a [TS]

00:13:27   big sweet dumb dope and she at every [TS]

00:13:30   turn is making fun of him and teasing [TS]

00:13:32   him in kind of a not very nice way at [TS]

00:13:35   the beginning she kind of gets over it a [TS]

00:13:36   little bit but I don't know it seems [TS]

00:13:38   like she does and then later she does it [TS]

00:13:39   to Walter Brennan two tries to make him [TS]

00:13:41   think that that lose cheating on her as [TS]

00:13:43   well you can make sure that your [TS]

00:13:45   president she gets her kicks from some [TS]

00:13:47   bad some twisted start but again I don't [TS]

00:13:49   like this girl you know that dude was [TS]

00:13:51   hanging around your house and your and [TS]

00:13:52   your beach trips all the time you [TS]

00:13:54   probably would do something similar just [TS]

00:13:55   he should know better than to think ill [TS]

00:13:57   of st. Loup india soon as you know what [TS]

00:14:00   moving he's in for pizza so i would so I [TS]

00:14:02   think that's a problem I think there's a [TS]

00:14:04   challenge you just that Lou Gehrig is a [TS]

00:14:06   nice fellow and has a head has a good [TS]

00:14:08   marriage and his his downfall is not [TS]

00:14:12   because this doesn't follow drama arc it [TS]

00:14:15   follows life our kids his his downfall [TS]

00:14:18   is that he gets a terrible disease and [TS]

00:14:20   dies [TS]

00:14:20   yeah the general structure of the movies [TS]

00:14:23   weird for me because for most of the [TS]

00:14:25   movie nothing bad happens to lose yeah [TS]

00:14:28   he's born he's a great baseball player [TS]

00:14:30   gets to go to college [TS]

00:14:32   gets to be on the Yankees wins a whole [TS]

00:14:34   bunch of championships with a bunch of [TS]

00:14:35   many titles because he is the best first [TS]

00:14:37   baseman to ever play the game has a [TS]

00:14:39   great marriage so you're thinking [TS]

00:14:41   nothing bad ever happens to this guy [TS]

00:14:42   then the worst possible thing happens to [TS]

00:14:44   this guy and movies over [TS]

00:14:46   I i think if you were going to remake [TS]

00:14:48   this movie the subject matter of the lou [TS]

00:14:51   gehrig story is his indie and and that's [TS]

00:14:54   why I think that the ending of the movie [TS]

00:14:55   is probably what works best for me [TS]

00:14:57   although I I i find Teresa Wright [TS]

00:14:59   charming in this movie so that I didn't [TS]

00:15:02   have quite the problem with their their [TS]

00:15:04   relationship that you guys are having [TS]

00:15:05   but obviously the last 15 minutes of the [TS]

00:15:08   movie is is what should have been your [TS]

00:15:09   move [TS]

00:15:10   yes and the real the real problem with [TS]

00:15:12   that is is the ratio because this is a [TS]

00:15:14   two-hour eight-minute movie [TS]

00:15:16   yep and 15 minutes of that is sad [TS]

00:15:20   Lou Gehrig is dying and the rest of it [TS]

00:15:22   is all stuff happens to lou gehrig but [TS]

00:15:25   nothing bad ever happens to leave here [TS]

00:15:26   it's the human drama part of it too [TS]

00:15:28   because what when he gets diagnosed [TS]

00:15:29   there there is that scene which yeah [TS]

00:15:32   it's hokey but it hints at the true [TS]

00:15:34   human story here which is you is it [TS]

00:15:36   three strikes doc that I never argue [TS]

00:15:38   with an umpire that and and don't tell [TS]

00:15:42   my wife she must know and she's like I [TS]

00:15:44   knew it the moment I came in and she [TS]

00:15:46   cries and all that's good but then we go [TS]

00:15:48   we switch from that to the the day of [TS]

00:15:51   the fair well which is again it [TS]

00:15:53   basically in real time it has all the [TS]

00:15:56   drama of a pregame ceremony at a [TS]

00:15:58   baseball game which is this a nun [TS]

00:16:00   I you are you saying that you weren't [TS]

00:16:02   impressed with the postmaster-general [TS]

00:16:03   doesn't want to see me the radio and the [TS]

00:16:06   radio announcer describing what's [TS]

00:16:08   happening like it's a horse race and now [TS]

00:16:09   the Postmaster General is gonna be [TS]

00:16:11   shaking his hand now we moved away that [TS]

00:16:14   I mean his speech is good but but but in [TS]

00:16:16   the gap there is what this movie or or [TS]

00:16:19   at least if you were telling the story [TS]

00:16:20   today how you would tell it which is it [TS]

00:16:22   is this human tragedy of this person who [TS]

00:16:25   is the best at has had a good life and [TS]

00:16:26   is the best at what he does and now has [TS]

00:16:29   gotten this terrible disease and it [TS]

00:16:30   struck down in this physical prime [TS]

00:16:32   exactly yeah and yeah it's just sort of [TS]

00:16:34   like I got a bad break a and then and [TS]

00:16:37   then he falls off of a chair and is [TS]

00:16:40   suddenly a terrible player and and then [TS]

00:16:43   he says I quit and gives us gives a [TS]

00:16:45   heart-rending speech and walks out and [TS]

00:16:46   that's the end of the movie and you're [TS]

00:16:47   missing you know I think I there's only [TS]

00:16:50   the hint of the human drama that [TS]

00:16:51   happened behind the scenes which I [TS]

00:16:52   understand for a movie that was made [TS]

00:16:53   1942 was made right after his death it's [TS]

00:16:56   just now looking at you think you missed [TS]

00:16:58   you missed the most important part or [TS]

00:17:01   you or if you didn't miss it you only [TS]

00:17:02   showed us a glimmer of it at the very [TS]

00:17:04   end of two hours but even at the time [TS]

00:17:06   you think you can assume that people [TS]

00:17:08   know how good Lou Gehrig is right you [TS]

00:17:11   don't need to spend that hour of the [TS]

00:17:12   movie showing his baseball career [TS]

00:17:14   well there's also the the idea that you [TS]

00:17:17   know if if we're making this now for [TS]

00:17:19   making aloo Gary [TS]

00:17:21   now we're not having to cooperate with [TS]

00:17:24   what if anyone who knew him yes [TS]

00:17:26   and where is back then it's all you know [TS]

00:17:29   all the can't do what I watch like that [TS]

00:17:31   if you happy what Eleanor Garrett was [TS]

00:17:33   very involved in any in signing off on [TS]

00:17:35   this movie and it yet i mean the the [TS]

00:17:38   doctor scene is pretty much the opposite [TS]

00:17:41   of what really happened you know they [TS]

00:17:42   they sort of made it Rosie for him [TS]

00:17:45   because his wife didn't want him to be [TS]

00:17:47   depressed for four years and so it's [TS]

00:17:49   like well you know you might need a cane [TS]

00:17:51   for 10 to 15 years and you know it's [TS]

00:17:53   going to be okay you know you'll fight [TS]

00:17:55   it and and his final speech is yeah it's [TS]

00:17:59   mostly paraphrasing and using the same [TS]

00:18:01   things but in real life he ended with [TS]

00:18:03   you know I feel like the luckiest man in [TS]

00:18:05   baseball you know but you know I have a [TS]

00:18:09   lot left to live for [TS]

00:18:11   yeah which you couldn't really into it [TS]

00:18:13   you know at that point you can't do that [TS]

00:18:14   in the movie because well we know [TS]

00:18:16   yeah i think i would have been more [TS]

00:18:17   poignant actually if they had kept that [TS]

00:18:19   line and that was what am i if I have a [TS]

00:18:21   criticism of of of of how they truncated [TS]

00:18:25   that speech that would be at that's [TS]

00:18:27   because that's the that's the the the [TS]

00:18:29   dagger as it were [TS]

00:18:31   yeah now about managers coming out of [TS]

00:18:34   the dugout and it looks like he's going [TS]

00:18:36   to be making a pitching change going for [TS]

00:18:38   the left-hander while we wait let me [TS]

00:18:41   tell you about one of our sponsors it's [TS]

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00:19:14   search for the ground up [TS]

00:19:16   this is so great every discussion every [TS]

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00:19:20   searching for it is easy i have used to [TS]

00:19:24   so many times now to say what what was [TS]

00:19:26   that thing that my curly told me three [TS]

00:19:29   weeks ago and I can search for it and [TS]

00:19:31   find it in seconds and slack is [TS]

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00:19:34   sorts of other web services it is not [TS]

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00:19:45   want to build your own integrations more [TS]

00:19:46   than half a million people and more than [TS]

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00:19:58   observatory at the south pole so it when [TS]

00:20:01   they say that it's on all the continents [TS]

00:20:02   they are not kidding it is in Antarctica [TS]

00:20:05   to they're all using slack slack mission [TS]

00:20:08   to make people's working life simpler [TS]

00:20:10   more pleasant and more productive and [TS]

00:20:12   boy it's working for me it worked for [TS]

00:20:13   you to this slack dot-com / smell create [TS]

00:20:16   a new team you can do that for free and [TS]

00:20:18   when you decide to upgrade to a paid [TS]

00:20:20   plan to get a hundred dollars in credit [TS]

00:20:22   by going to slack calm / smell [TS]

00:20:24   thank you so much too slack for [TS]

00:20:25   sponsoring the uncomfortable [TS]

00:20:27   looks like the pictures warmed up let's [TS]

00:20:29   get back to the game I would like to [TS]

00:20:31   make a specific criticism of this movie [TS]

00:20:33   which is that it does not need a musical [TS]

00:20:35   interlude in the middle [TS]

00:20:36   yeah she does it was made in the 1940s [TS]

00:20:39   ya know but I i deferred Erica here [TS]

00:20:42   Erica is quite correct i had had a [TS]

00:20:45   stopping and explain this to Stephen [TS]

00:20:46   little movies using what is going on [TS]

00:20:48   what are they doing and I was like honey [TS]

00:20:50   you see this is 1942 it was just [TS]

00:20:52   expected every film had this and this [TS]

00:20:55   was at the point where the woman hadn't [TS]

00:20:57   started singing it was just dancing and [TS]

00:20:59   I was like you know I said you know [TS]

00:21:01   usually it's somebody singing a song in [TS]

00:21:03   a club like this while the main [TS]

00:21:04   characters are sitting at a table [TS]

00:21:05   watching but you know in some cases the [TS]

00:21:07   dance with band and then somebody [TS]

00:21:08   started singing and I was like see see [TS]

00:21:10   that's entertainment [TS]

00:21:12   that's the hit song from pride of the [TS]

00:21:14   Yankees I like it when the film noir [TS]

00:21:16   suddenly has some hot jazz but here [TS]

00:21:18   especially for a two-hour movie seemed [TS]

00:21:21   kind of irrelevant [TS]

00:21:23   well as a blank even has a musical [TS]

00:21:25   number but come on his flaws in Yolanda [TS]

00:21:27   there is nothing irrelevant about veloz [TS]

00:21:29   and Yolanda or not a noble and his as [TS]

00:21:33   you know based on the fact that they are [TS]

00:21:35   in the first set of title cards [TS]

00:21:37   yes strongly they were a pretty big deal [TS]

00:21:40   in 1942 that was a good get crushes [TS]

00:21:43   that was that was about bizarre scene [TS]

00:21:46   but I was and I was just like how well [TS]

00:21:47   you know it isn't i'm already that you [TS]

00:21:49   wanted to [TS]

00:21:50   yeah it's the variety show portion of [TS]

00:21:52   the program and the previous scene we [TS]

00:21:53   learned though is another musical note [TS]

00:21:55   in a previously when they're at the [TS]

00:21:56   carnival in Chicago it turns out that [TS]

00:21:59   all the Calliope xin Chicago just play [TS]

00:22:01   that toddlin town over and over and over [TS]

00:22:04   again to tell you that you're in chicago [TS]

00:22:05   entire night I think modern-day movies [TS]

00:22:08   would be better if they had a mandatory [TS]

00:22:10   musical number interested in there for [TS]

00:22:12   no reason like imitation game there'd be [TS]

00:22:15   a little song and dance [TS]

00:22:16   well that that's some movies do the [TS]

00:22:18   tobey maguire spider-man has the [TS]

00:22:21   inexplicable macy gray musical member in [TS]

00:22:23   the middle of it before the Green Goblin [TS]

00:22:24   kill some people wonder why is that in [TS]

00:22:27   it there's that rave scene in one of [TS]

00:22:28   those matrix sequels [TS]

00:22:30   yeah yeah yeah I did really enjoy every [TS]

00:22:32   step seen that babe ruth was in i might [TS]

00:22:36   think babe ruth is really great at [TS]

00:22:38   playing babe ruth I enjoy the most [TS]

00:22:40   really very well captain method acting [TS]

00:22:43   he seemed to like being on screen he [TS]

00:22:45   does not come off very well in this [TS]

00:22:47   movie though everything about it but [TS]

00:22:50   little bit it's interesting you know if [TS]

00:22:52   he shows up in the children's hospital [TS]

00:22:54   room scene where you know Little Billy [TS]

00:22:55   is is crippled and you know he's [TS]

00:22:57   promising him a home run and you know [TS]

00:23:00   all the scenes with Babe Ruth is him oh [TS]

00:23:01   and here's another picture get another [TS]

00:23:02   picture Kid and then he said I'll get [TS]

00:23:04   you home runs and walks out and and it's [TS]

00:23:06   amazing to me that he agreed to do that [TS]

00:23:08   the kid knows to get a better offer [TS]

00:23:09   immediately by the way it's a yes about [TS]

00:23:12   hitting 240 babes that one gets good who [TS]

00:23:15   comes in next me ask for three [TS]

00:23:17   I don't think it is best to ruin the [TS]

00:23:19   Yankees chance he did he did because he [TS]

00:23:21   turned the entire thing into a home run [TS]

00:23:23   hitting contest because as this movie [TS]

00:23:24   portrays baseball is nothing but a bunch [TS]

00:23:27   of people trying to hit home runs [TS]

00:23:29   well as you know from watching any [TS]

00:23:31   baseball movie taking an intentional [TS]

00:23:33   walk is the height of stupidity and got [TS]

00:23:35   a swing at those balls kids [TS]

00:23:37   yeah the radio announcers like he can't [TS]

00:23:39   get the second home run for that kid [TS]

00:23:41   it's the World Series the entire season [TS]

00:23:44   has led up to this and the radio [TS]

00:23:46   announcer is saying Gehrig I don't know [TS]

00:23:48   this could be a failure he's only hit [TS]

00:23:49   one home run in this world series game [TS]

00:23:51   Kenny hit a second home run for that kid [TS]

00:23:53   you see Jason back then they didn't [TS]

00:23:55   understand the importance of on base [TS]

00:23:57   to jest indeed what is that if i may [TS]

00:23:59   interrupt with some baseball nerdery [TS]

00:24:00   baseball-reference dot-com is the worst [TS]

00:24:03   thing that ever existed for movies like [TS]

00:24:05   this because you can go look up the box [TS]

00:24:07   why didn't you got that too and there is [TS]

00:24:10   a game where Lou Gehrig hit two home [TS]

00:24:11   runs against the cookie Bruce didn't hit [TS]

00:24:13   home but I everybody get one at all any [TS]

00:24:15   lost that World Series no no they want [TS]

00:24:18   that one I think [TS]

00:24:19   no I think that's the one they lost in [TS]

00:24:20   seven games oh I thought this was the [TS]

00:24:22   the 20-city the now I think this was the [TS]

00:24:25   one that was when I'm 20-hour we're [TS]

00:24:27   going to leave that's it this otherwise [TS]

00:24:29   delightful film is now ruined the guys [TS]

00:24:32   in 1942 would prefer that you call them [TS]

00:24:34   Wallops good point good point [TS]

00:24:38   I you know I may have I may be confusing [TS]

00:24:41   my dates i think this was one that they [TS]

00:24:43   actually won but a regard we gotta st [TS]

00:24:46   what says obviously this is the thing [TS]

00:24:49   that totally destroys pride of the [TS]

00:24:52   yankees and renders it one of the worst [TS]

00:24:54   movies in history [TS]

00:24:55   call me ASAP but Little Billy smiling in [TS]

00:24:57   his hospital bed with tears dripping [TS]

00:24:59   dripping down his face totally works on [TS]

00:25:01   home [TS]

00:25:01   I don't know when he shows up later [TS]

00:25:03   shape you it's me Billy see I didn't [TS]

00:25:06   like I didn't like Little Billy because [TS]

00:25:08   he looks like a tiny freaky-looking [TS]

00:25:10   steve buscemi I just couldn't get past [TS]

00:25:11   that freaky-looking steve buscemi really [TS]

00:25:14   I i will i will point out on the Babe [TS]

00:25:16   Ruth story starring William Bendix pulls [TS]

00:25:18   a similar trick where baby visits a kid [TS]

00:25:21   in the hospital and says hitting a home [TS]

00:25:23   run baby and babe of course just the [TS]

00:25:25   call shot right again yeah i think so i [TS]

00:25:28   can't remember if it's that exact home [TS]

00:25:30   run but hits the homerun for the kid and [TS]

00:25:32   then years later when babe ruth is dying [TS]

00:25:34   of cancer [TS]

00:25:34   the kid turns out to be as oncologist oh [TS]

00:25:37   wow [TS]

00:25:38   at the end of the movement of the [TS]

00:25:39   transfer and theirs and theirs are light [TS]

00:25:41   and there's a choir of children outside [TS]

00:25:42   singing take me out to the ballgame like [TS]

00:25:44   a team and that that by the way is you [TS]

00:25:48   got off light with pride of the Yankees [TS]

00:25:49   security there's so much space me out to [TS]

00:25:51   the ballgame in this movie two minutes [TS]

00:25:53   in my mic I i'm tired of take me as a [TS]

00:25:55   moment when it continues to follow a bit [TS]

00:25:59   with Billy though it doesn't work for me [TS]

00:26:00   because gary is so I bulgaria Cooper I [TS]

00:26:03   guess it's just so awkward in that scene [TS]

00:26:05   the end and that highlight something [TS]

00:26:07   that's that's kind of my one of my [TS]

00:26:09   bigger problems with this movie [TS]

00:26:10   together which is that they portray lou [TS]

00:26:12   gehrig as really really socially inept I [TS]

00:26:17   mean it's almost excruciating yeah it's [TS]

00:26:19   it's almost like he has Asperger's or [TS]

00:26:20   something the way yeah it's I think that [TS]

00:26:22   sort of gary cooper young remember from [TS]

00:26:25   another I you love ya an earlier movie [TS]

00:26:28   that we liked him a lot but he's a stiff [TS]

00:26:31   he has a stiff guy and I like his [TS]

00:26:35   performance in this movie i I'm I'm [TS]

00:26:37   willing to overlook the fact that when [TS]

00:26:38   he's young and in his prime Gary [TS]

00:26:40   Cooper's the exact wrong person to play [TS]

00:26:42   it but he does a really good job with [TS]

00:26:45   the older lou gehrig I really think he [TS]

00:26:50   acts very well in the scene where he [TS]

00:26:53   realizes that his body isn't responding [TS]

00:26:54   anymore and he manages to get a look of [TS]

00:26:57   panic across his face that I I just [TS]

00:27:00   think it's so very natural and and how [TS]

00:27:02   someone of his physicality would react [TS]

00:27:06   in that situation right body morning he [TS]

00:27:08   just bodies training in the locker room [TS]

00:27:10   and they always just kind of absolutely [TS]

00:27:12   terrified afterwards even though [TS]

00:27:14   everybody is playing it off like they [TS]

00:27:15   didn't see it that's a great scene [TS]

00:27:17   yes but it's to your point I will [TS]

00:27:19   concede the fact that whatever he is [TS]

00:27:21   forced to act with a human being is not [TS]

00:27:23   choice right it it is like well [TS]

00:27:26   lose-lose got a bit of the tub specialty [TS]

00:27:29   usual on solution especially when he's [TS]

00:27:31   acting with his his mother the scene [TS]

00:27:33   where she's just yelling at him because [TS]

00:27:35   he has lied to her about going to [TS]

00:27:37   Harvard Harvard yeah he's just he's got [TS]

00:27:42   this weirdly detached grin on his face [TS]

00:27:45   that may be very uncomfortable if he [TS]

00:27:48   were to take her seriously she's [TS]

00:27:50   screaming i wish i had died because he [TS]

00:27:53   isn't an engineer and Lady you are a [TS]

00:27:56   horrible horrible but really really one [TS]

00:27:59   of history's worst monster I didn't [TS]

00:28:01   stress that enough but I was totally [TS]

00:28:04   unaware that being in a frat was a [TS]

00:28:05   stepping stone on the road to [TS]

00:28:07   engineering every single engineer i have [TS]

00:28:09   ever known has done it completely wrong [TS]

00:28:11   well don't be so here the things you [TS]

00:28:13   didn't know about fraternities back in [TS]

00:28:14   New garrix time right and this goes this [TS]

00:28:16   piece of the age problem in this movie [TS]

00:28:18   which is a they show that fraternity and [TS]

00:28:21   I think why are there those the the [TS]

00:28:23   champions of industry [TS]

00:28:24   maybe these men in suits in the in the [TS]

00:28:26   fraternity house because they all look [TS]

00:28:28   like they're 30 at least at least Gary [TS]

00:28:32   Cooper is 41 playing be kid it hit the [TS]

00:28:35   plate some 120 years his junior yeah [TS]

00:28:38   yeah the girl that he meets is Myra [TS]

00:28:41   sheet that actresses is in her early [TS]

00:28:43   twenties at least but so many of those [TS]

00:28:45   frat boys there are frat boys in the [TS]

00:28:47   background who are young looking but [TS]

00:28:49   then the main ones all seem like they're [TS]

00:28:51   40 i think to make Gary Cooper well they [TS]

00:28:54   yeah they do that throughout the movie [TS]

00:28:56   because all the Yankees have receding [TS]

00:28:58   hairlines yeah everybody's just way [TS]

00:29:00   older than that they should be but it's [TS]

00:29:02   weird because babe ruth is playing [TS]

00:29:05   himself 20 years earlier yeah mhm yeah [TS]

00:29:09   it wasn't that fat then so that is that [TS]

00:29:11   is that is weird [TS]

00:29:13   um maybe I i do like they have the guy [TS]

00:29:16   who is the exemplar of classes and was [TS]

00:29:18   like well you could let him in but don't [TS]

00:29:20   expect me to call him brother which is [TS]

00:29:21   sort of like that is Dax lets his heart [TS]

00:29:23   yeah that's as hardscrabble upbringing [TS]

00:29:25   that he's not respected as a son of the [TS]

00:29:28   the lady who is the the cook and also is [TS]

00:29:31   the son of a son of immigrants and he's [TS]

00:29:33   distracting to me because he looks like [TS]

00:29:34   one-third of andy richter but it is nice [TS]

00:29:40   to see him get his comeuppance she does [TS]

00:29:41   enjoy seeing him tackled he doesn't [TS]

00:29:43   there's a ramen and then he tells off [TS]

00:29:45   the Yankee Scouts who comes to look for [TS]

00:29:47   it was just so mad at that point I just [TS]

00:29:49   wanna go through the door through the [TS]

00:29:50   window [TS]

00:29:51   I I know I know Phil we talked about how [TS]

00:29:53   baseball reference's the worst thing [TS]

00:29:54   ever because you immediately if you're [TS]

00:29:55   in baseball there like like you and me [TS]

00:29:57   you look up the world series they played [TS]

00:29:59   against the cardinals in there there [TS]

00:30:00   were two and one of many one of the [TS]

00:30:02   middle austin yeah i did that did this [TS]

00:30:03   happen and they hit the home runs and [TS]

00:30:05   that's totally not true i had a few [TS]

00:30:06   other moments like that like uh when he [TS]

00:30:09   want wally pip pip has a terrible [TS]

00:30:12   blinking problem that have to take him [TS]

00:30:14   out because you're seeing double from [TS]

00:30:15   when he got hit my head the other day [TS]

00:30:16   and Gehrig is inserted at that point and [TS]

00:30:20   then has hit in the head by a ball in [TS]

00:30:21   the same game this is like weeks or [TS]

00:30:23   months of time that has been compressed [TS]

00:30:27   lou gehrig was on the Yankees for a [TS]

00:30:29   couple years before you or at least for [TS]

00:30:30   a year before he took wally pip spot in [TS]

00:30:33   the middle of the season so that's not [TS]

00:30:34   really an displayed sporadic [TS]

00:30:36   I need and it wasn't his first at-bat in [TS]

00:30:38   this is like Gary get in there is like [TS]

00:30:39   Oh me okay [TS]

00:30:41   like he's never played before and I [TS]

00:30:42   think throughout the movie they seem to [TS]

00:30:44   misunderstand the idea that Lou Gehrig [TS]

00:30:46   for the consecutive games record did not [TS]

00:30:48   have to play every inning [TS]

00:30:50   yeah and when they take him out it's [TS]

00:30:52   like oh my god it's an amazing moment [TS]

00:30:54   Lou Gehrig's coming out this is the end [TS]

00:30:56   of the streets like know he could come [TS]

00:30:58   out at any point it's the next day when [TS]

00:31:00   he doesn't play that it's the end of the [TS]

00:31:01   streak [TS]

00:31:02   it's very strange that was weird and I [TS]

00:31:04   also thought it was weird for as much as [TS]

00:31:07   this movie praises lou gehrig I felt [TS]

00:31:11   they could have made a bigger deal about [TS]

00:31:12   how he was incredibly good at baseball [TS]

00:31:15   yeah that's true because i didn't get [TS]

00:31:17   that impression he was the best first [TS]

00:31:19   baseman in the history of the game ever [TS]

00:31:22   yeah nobody who knows i know nothing [TS]

00:31:25   about baseball I mean I know so much [TS]

00:31:26   nothing about baseball that up until [TS]

00:31:28   like a year and a half ago I thought the [TS]

00:31:30   Dodgers were still in Brooklyn because [TS]

00:31:31   my only experience with them they're [TS]

00:31:33   from movies from the forties let me tell [TS]

00:31:35   you about this thing called the [TS]

00:31:36   designated hitter role Erica and said [TS]

00:31:38   dude hello your biology he is not only [TS]

00:31:42   the best first baseman ever probably by [TS]

00:31:44   most accounts but certainly top 20 and [TS]

00:31:46   maybe top 15 best players of all time [TS]

00:31:48   yeah yeah they didn't show that they [TS]

00:31:49   just showed him hitting the ball [TS]

00:31:51   everyone because it because in this [TS]

00:31:52   movie it's a home run hitting contest [TS]

00:31:53   but they're not well that the elephant [TS]

00:31:56   in the room here is that Gary Cooper for [TS]

00:31:59   being strapping individual was not a [TS]

00:32:02   very athletic individual and he was [TS]

00:32:04   right-handed and left-handed which lou [TS]

00:32:06   gehrig was and so showing him actually [TS]

00:32:11   trying to perform the sport of baseball [TS]

00:32:14   who was not a good thing that said he is [TS]

00:32:16   not this is not the worst betrayal of an [TS]

00:32:20   e an actor trying to portray an athlete [TS]

00:32:22   and in certainly a baseball movie that [TS]

00:32:24   honor goes to tony Perkins in the movie [TS]

00:32:27   fear strikers Alex out where he plays [TS]

00:32:29   jimmy piersall and it and it's actually [TS]

00:32:31   a pretty good movie for its time about [TS]

00:32:34   mental illness jimmy piersall had spent [TS]

00:32:38   actually time and uh what was in those [TS]

00:32:41   days known as an asylum because he he [TS]

00:32:43   just cracked under pressure but the [TS]

00:32:46   scenes where a tony Perkins is forced [TS]

00:32:49   do athletic endeavors you sit there [TS]

00:32:52   watching party went mad if he's been [TS]

00:32:55   running like that it's just such a weird [TS]

00:33:00   way for this this movie to be plotted [TS]

00:33:01   for a baseball movie you expect you know [TS]

00:33:04   when the the whole tanglefoot he trips [TS]

00:33:06   on the bats kind of thing happens you're [TS]

00:33:08   going to be paid off with a scene of him [TS]

00:33:10   hitting like a gigantic home run and [TS]

00:33:12   everybody shares wow maybe we were wrong [TS]

00:33:14   about this chump and that just never [TS]

00:33:16   happens you know he's a chump basically [TS]

00:33:18   and suddenly and all these awards this [TS]

00:33:20   by the way this movie is montage happy [TS]

00:33:23   no it is somebody from the eighties I [TS]

00:33:25   love I was like hey but i just don't [TS]

00:33:27   understand best investing and monetize [TS]

00:33:30   ever i think is the scene where at about [TS]

00:33:32   an hour and 40 minutes in we get the [TS]

00:33:34   scrapbook scene where it goes my [TS]

00:33:36   community get off at some point in this [TS]

00:33:38   film to CBU things that have transpired [TS]

00:33:40   I I that moment where I thought why is [TS]

00:33:43   she why she was why are we spending so [TS]

00:33:44   much time the scrapbook and then I [TS]

00:33:45   realized that then at the end of that [TS]

00:33:47   scene she starts looking the pages and [TS]

00:33:49   we move forward in time because that's [TS]

00:33:51   how you learn miller huggins is dying [TS]

00:33:52   yeah we're gonna we're gonna move to his [TS]

00:33:54   did to lose death now so we're done with [TS]

00:33:56   this the rest of this stuff suffice to [TS]

00:33:58   say he had a great career one of the [TS]

00:33:59   best ever and now we'll move on to the [TS]

00:34:01   end [TS]

00:34:02   suffice it to say we sure as hell are [TS]

00:34:03   going to show it to you nope i had left [TS]

00:34:05   earlier there's a montage that I enjoy [TS]

00:34:07   because of the technique involved [TS]

00:34:09   because it's showing that he played [TS]

00:34:10   baseball which again probably wait what [TS]

00:34:13   I think my favorite my favorite of all [TS]

00:34:15   of the montages I mean it's a once again [TS]

00:34:17   talking about movies movies from the [TS]

00:34:18   forties you get a lot of the sort of [TS]

00:34:20   montages of of headlines or you know the [TS]

00:34:23   the light up names outside of bars if [TS]

00:34:26   somebody's going on a bender that sort [TS]

00:34:27   of thing [TS]

00:34:28   and here i like the fact that they [TS]

00:34:29   didn't repeat themselves any of the [TS]

00:34:31   times they did it so the first time you [TS]

00:34:32   get headlines the second time you get a [TS]

00:34:34   bunch of flags the third time you get a [TS]

00:34:36   lot of jerseys and then at the end it's [TS]

00:34:38   a scrapbook so i have to give props to [TS]

00:34:39   the movie for for thinking up new ways [TS]

00:34:42   to do it every time I enjoy the jersey [TS]

00:34:44   montage that the way the journey jersey [TS]

00:34:45   montage work was Stadium jersey of of of [TS]

00:34:49   other team crowd shot railroad tracks [TS]

00:34:52   like that because it's cool to see the [TS]

00:34:55   old stadiums dont't on [TS]

00:34:58   that's playing in the back yeah its head [TS]

00:35:00   and of course if it hadn't been so long [TS]

00:35:02   they wouldn't have had to think of so [TS]

00:35:03   many different ways to do montages but [TS]

00:35:05   that one man's life where you instantly [TS]

00:35:08   structure this like a regular sports [TS]

00:35:09   movie because until the very end at no [TS]

00:35:12   point is he an underdog [TS]

00:35:14   that's right now it's true he's on the [TS]

00:35:17   1927 Yankees in the nineteen [TS]

00:35:19   thirty-eight years what do you do with [TS]

00:35:21   that I feel like they could have taken [TS]

00:35:22   the wally pip story and made that a [TS]

00:35:24   little bit more where he's like learning [TS]

00:35:25   from pip and he's he's you know [TS]

00:35:27   pinch-hitting and he's going to you know [TS]

00:35:29   get back to the minors and coming back [TS]

00:35:31   up and trying to learn and then he has [TS]

00:35:32   his moment but instead it's like Wally [TS]

00:35:34   PIPP he comes to the team's you should [TS]

00:35:36   watch Wally PIPP and then wally pip [TS]

00:35:39   blinks a lot and says I gotta come out [TS]

00:35:40   and said it couldn't let go about and [TS]

00:35:44   you accept all about pip because that [TS]

00:35:46   Wally PIPP thing is that it i mean [TS]

00:35:48   that's a legendary story that the guy is [TS]

00:35:50   the first baseman for the Yankees four [TS]

00:35:51   years and then he one day because he's [TS]

00:35:53   got this problem because I got hit mad [TS]

00:35:55   he sits down he never gets his job back [TS]

00:35:56   because Lou Gehrig takes because he's [TS]

00:35:58   that good but but that drama is kind of [TS]

00:36:00   missing here other than I mean literally [TS]

00:36:03   is just Gary get in there and the rest [TS]

00:36:05   is history [TS]

00:36:05   so what I'm hearing Jason is that you're [TS]

00:36:07   proposing a wide sargasso sea only told [TS]

00:36:10   from the perspective of what we have [TS]

00:36:12   little garrix not so good about it how [TS]

00:36:17   did Wally PIPP feel about this because i [TS]

00:36:19   only you get your job back we don't stop [TS]

00:36:21   being injured [TS]

00:36:22   yeah a yeah I think he made a bit of a [TS]

00:36:25   meal of it on the on the rubber chicken [TS]

00:36:27   circuit Nolan stories about oh yeah I [TS]

00:36:31   had the most expensive headache ever [TS]

00:36:32   don't be like me you know fans whatever [TS]

00:36:35   you do don't admit you have a concussion [TS]

00:36:37   kids know what are we not gonna talk [TS]

00:36:40   about Walter Brennan is I really think [TS]

00:36:42   we'll begin to search results are all [TS]

00:36:44   right [TS]

00:36:45   Phil's Walter Brennan quarter i love [TS]

00:36:47   that scene on the beach which also i was [TS]

00:36:48   amused by their their use of floating [TS]

00:36:51   devices to demarcate the difference [TS]

00:36:53   between the sand it was in the studio [TS]

00:36:55   and the rear projection although the [TS]

00:36:57   best removing all i have to say this is [TS]

00:36:59   the when the motorcycle stop the car [TS]

00:37:01   yeah because i can't believe it is [TS]

00:37:03   literally the baby wheeled motorcycles [TS]

00:37:04   out next to the car with it and then [TS]

00:37:06   they just turn off the projector [TS]

00:37:07   actually coast to a stop but at no point [TS]

00:37:11   is there anymore [TS]

00:37:12   movement or suggestion that anything is [TS]

00:37:13   Israel they're betting on the beach [TS]

00:37:15   I liked the Walther present miss you [TS]

00:37:16   said pops out and he's like hey [TS]

00:37:19   everybody what are we doing today [TS]

00:37:21   take a little bit of a third wheel there [TS]

00:37:22   and they're like no nothing we're just [TS]

00:37:24   having a great time being married [TS]

00:37:25   because our marriage is great and Erica [TS]

00:37:27   mentioned a scene where where Teresa [TS]

00:37:29   Wright tricks Walter Brennan to think [TS]

00:37:31   that that lou gherig has betrayed her [TS]

00:37:34   and is having an affair when really he's [TS]

00:37:36   just playing baseball with the [TS]

00:37:37   neighborhood kids but all the rage that [TS]

00:37:39   slicker some runs Walter Brennan face [TS]

00:37:41   it's it's it's actually disturbing we [TS]

00:37:44   can live several minutes and watching [TS]

00:37:46   him build up to his justice by lou [TS]

00:37:48   gehrig all people why I'm gonna go get [TS]

00:37:50   them and I'm going to punch that guy [TS]

00:37:52   he's clearly a person who is frightened [TS]

00:37:54   of silence because that guy does not [TS]

00:37:56   like five seconds go by without starting [TS]

00:37:58   up another sentence [TS]

00:37:59   oh yeah it doesn't seem like the press [TS]

00:38:00   box must have been exhausting oh yes [TS]

00:38:02   it's between him and uh uh the the other [TS]

00:38:06   guy is a mystery machine looky area [TS]

00:38:08   Madison we can well be pretty mia is how [TS]

00:38:12   he talked but he probably shut up about [TS]

00:38:14   that after like one season of Lou [TS]

00:38:16   playing Robert Lee yeah but they kept [TS]

00:38:19   they kept going on and kept going to [TS]

00:38:21   keep that bit because you have to have [TS]

00:38:23   drama you had to have something but also [TS]

00:38:25   floors me about this movie is that it [TS]

00:38:27   was a co-written by Herman mankiewicz [TS]

00:38:31   yeah dude who but a year earlier was [TS]

00:38:34   co-creating that a little student film [TS]

00:38:36   called Citizen Kane yeah whatever [TS]

00:38:40   happened to that guy looks nice know [TS]

00:38:41   somebody got a career idea never been a [TS]

00:38:45   lateral move [TS]

00:38:46   I don't I don't think this is I don't [TS]

00:38:48   think this is a bad movie I think I'll [TS]

00:38:50   just know it's not a bad movie uur it's [TS]

00:38:53   of its time it has a whitewash of a a [TS]

00:38:56   figure who has a a few dramatic elements [TS]

00:39:00   in his life that aren't i think [TS]

00:39:03   particularly well told because instead [TS]

00:39:05   it wants to be a standard forties kind [TS]

00:39:09   of romance biopic so you spend a lot of [TS]

00:39:13   time with things that are a lot i think [TS]

00:39:15   less interesting in terms of hulu gary [TS]

00:39:17   was as a person and a lot more time with [TS]

00:39:19   you know or instead of the time with the [TS]

00:39:22   stuff that really made him unique and it [TS]

00:39:24   is of its time i mean it is [TS]

00:39:25   speaking Italian I felt it was other [TS]

00:39:27   than that it would tell the little bit [TS]

00:39:28   long it felt completely inoffensive to [TS]

00:39:30   me but it also didn't ever jump out it's [TS]

00:39:33   you know it's a romance with that [TS]

00:39:36   happens to be about the baseball player [TS]

00:39:37   you kind of point out that the reason [TS]

00:39:39   that i enjoyed I I also don't think that [TS]

00:39:41   this is a super great movie or anything [TS]

00:39:42   and i had definitely had some problems [TS]

00:39:44   with it but it's very very much of its [TS]

00:39:48   time and like I said this is my favorite [TS]

00:39:49   era of moviemaking so just watching a [TS]

00:39:51   film with sort of these these rhythms [TS]

00:39:54   and beets and just this style made me [TS]

00:39:57   feel very comfortable and while Stephen [TS]

00:39:59   was getting more and more bored actually [TS]

00:40:01   was building his lego baseball stadium [TS]

00:40:03   off appropriately because he couldn't be [TS]

00:40:05   bothered didn't watch two hours and [TS]

00:40:06   eight minutes of it i thought--like it [TS]

00:40:08   goes down easy it is a little bit long [TS]

00:40:10   but its its pleasant in what it does [TS]

00:40:12   especially if you get into the rhythms [TS]

00:40:13   of this kind of a this kind of error on [TS]

00:40:15   this kind of weather for two hours and [TS]

00:40:16   eight minutes past surprisingly quickly [TS]

00:40:18   until I said thought about it and [TS]

00:40:20   realize nothing happened in that time [TS]

00:40:22   yeah I don't know it's it's it's closin [TS]

00:40:25   and you know I mean I grew up in the [TS]

00:40:26   Yankees house so you know whenever it [TS]

00:40:29   showed up on TV but I like there was a [TS]

00:40:31   legit my well-knit I'm innocent I I'm [TS]

00:40:34   you know I have nothing to do with this [TS]

00:40:36   I was absorbed into Yankee stage he was [TS]

00:40:38   a hostage you put it that way and see my [TS]

00:40:40   father would watch it my step-brother [TS]

00:40:41   would watch it they can quote it [TS]

00:40:43   verbatim i mean i've seen it you know [TS]

00:40:45   this is actually the first time I've [TS]

00:40:46   ever seen it without commercials so it [TS]

00:40:48   was actually short and well you know it [TS]

00:40:51   and it always reminded me you know the [TS]

00:40:53   more watched and watched movies from the [TS]

00:40:55   period it always reminds me of night and [TS]

00:40:57   day which is the the biopic of cole [TS]

00:41:00   porter who similarly you know he just [TS]

00:41:02   sort of fell into everything and had [TS]

00:41:03   success and was great songwriter and all [TS]

00:41:05   that and then a horse fell on him and [TS]

00:41:07   broke his legs and that kind of threw [TS]

00:41:09   off the rest of his life and so he had [TS]

00:41:11   one tragic thing but of course the movie [TS]

00:41:13   doesn't tell anything about his life [TS]

00:41:15   really it doesn't tell anything remotely [TS]

00:41:17   true but it's got a lot of musical [TS]

00:41:19   numbers and it's great and it's the same [TS]

00:41:21   kind of you know he's such a great guy [TS]

00:41:23   but did it have village and Yolanda [TS]

00:41:26   doing oddly enough they did a baseball [TS]

00:41:28   sequence in the middle of that [TS]

00:41:29   you know it's kind of it's less a movie [TS]

00:41:33   and more just a giant moving pedestal [TS]

00:41:35   but yea standing up on ya i think i [TS]

00:41:37   would have liked this movie more with a [TS]

00:41:39   worse actor because if you're going to [TS]

00:41:41   make it more about how great Lou Gehrig [TS]

00:41:43   is and you make Gary Cooper do it [TS]

00:41:46   there's not a lot I mean he is that is [TS]

00:41:49   Gary Cooper easiest yeah I trying to [TS]

00:41:52   think you would cast if you're making a [TS]

00:41:53   1942 I'm saying make it interesting [TS]

00:41:57   let's throw Cary Grant in there and see [TS]

00:41:58   what happens rapidly plays that [TS]

00:42:00   character ssa make it interesting as the [TS]

00:42:03   suave lose at least he'll have some sort [TS]

00:42:06   of inner life which I never thought this [TS]

00:42:08   lou gehrig ever did [TS]

00:42:10   mm and it's it's like that Joe Montana [TS]

00:42:12   SNL sketch work he has no subtext [TS]

00:42:15   everything he thinks he says yeah yeah [TS]

00:42:18   you know there's one other thing that we [TS]

00:42:20   should say uh Steven maybe do homework [TS]

00:42:22   for this he sent me an article about the [TS]

00:42:24   myth that they reversed every scene [TS]

00:42:27   think Gary Cooper was playing [TS]

00:42:28   left-handed and which is totally not the [TS]

00:42:30   case there are absolute lie couple of [TS]

00:42:31   scenes that way this this article was [TS]

00:42:33   insanely long and very much scarily [TS]

00:42:36   welcome to the baseball nerds [TS]

00:42:38   yeah wow I didn't know how creepy you [TS]

00:42:40   guys were same as the old nurse [TS]

00:42:42   yeah I I wasn't even gonna bring that up [TS]

00:42:44   Erica because it is hit it to fall so [TS]

00:42:47   much did you know that I'm ready right [TS]

00:42:50   okay i read some of that article so I [TS]

00:42:52   feel I seems larger portion [TS]

00:42:54   yep i am john there's an article [TS]

00:42:57   explaining what day each external shot [TS]

00:43:01   was done in which stadium at the very [TS]

00:43:04   stadiums yeah yeah [TS]

00:43:06   oh there I mean a lot of it was shot at [TS]

00:43:08   Wrigley Field in California [TS]

00:43:09   understanding in for all the different [TS]

00:43:11   fields [TS]

00:43:12   go figure right but they had they had [TS]

00:43:14   some nice shots of up stands and yes [TS]

00:43:17   interesting aspect and it probably had [TS]

00:43:20   just enough of a scoreboard that [TS]

00:43:21   somebody was able to go to retro sheet [TS]

00:43:23   figure out all the details [TS]

00:43:25   yeah this was between innings six and [TS]

00:43:27   seven of them [TS]

00:43:28   so to sum up III think this is it's a [TS]

00:43:32   very good example of a picture that you [TS]

00:43:34   would make in the nineteen forties that [TS]

00:43:36   I forget who said it that goes down easy [TS]

00:43:40   yeah it's not met yeah it's not gonna [TS]

00:43:43   a trouble you too much you're not going [TS]

00:43:45   to be terribly bored though you will [TS]

00:43:47   look back and say my god this is two [TS]

00:43:49   hours and again i think the the closing [TS]

00:43:53   scene pax pax a bit of a punch so it's [TS]

00:43:56   it's a for what it is it's a it's a [TS]

00:44:00   pretty enjoyable flick we and that's [TS]

00:44:03   what you walk out of the you know in [TS]

00:44:04   theory you walk out of the theater with [TS]

00:44:06   is that last punch again you know what [TS]

00:44:09   more do you need [TS]

00:44:10   so apparently the studio was totally [TS]

00:44:12   wondering that last shot [TS]

00:44:14   they won't do a thing where he walks and [TS]

00:44:16   hugs Teresa right and instead of the [TS]

00:44:19   current shot is just him walking into [TS]

00:44:21   the shadows and didn't respond to [TS]

00:44:23   comments for someone shouts play ball in [TS]

00:44:25   the background it's a terrific seen that [TS]

00:44:27   it's up to you to know that he died a [TS]

00:44:29   couple years later and didn't just walk [TS]

00:44:31   around on a crutch for 15 years right [TS]

00:44:33   you're set yeah they already expected us [TS]

00:44:35   to know that he was a great baseball [TS]

00:44:37   player without showing us so why don't [TS]

00:44:39   you assume that too [TS]

00:44:40   yeah I like although I i actually [TS]

00:44:42   thought that the the movie was going to [TS]

00:44:43   end on the previous shot because there's [TS]

00:44:44   also a really nice shot where he wants [TS]

00:44:46   from from the mic and he walks toward [TS]

00:44:48   the dugout and the camera just stays [TS]

00:44:50   there and waller and smaller and starts [TS]

00:44:53   to disappear and I was thinking to [TS]

00:44:54   myself wow that would actually be a [TS]

00:44:56   great last shot that he just walked into [TS]

00:44:58   the dugout is gone in the and and then [TS]

00:45:00   instead they kinda like oh they cut and [TS]

00:45:02   then you see what it is which is that [TS]

00:45:03   shadowy hallway and he disappears [TS]

00:45:06   completely into the shadows and they say [TS]

00:45:07   place actually almost the same shot [TS]

00:45:09   yeah yeah the dissidents I had the same [TS]

00:45:11   same sort of experience i was very [TS]

00:45:13   disappointed when they cut from that [TS]

00:45:15   shot from from him walking into the [TS]

00:45:17   dugout side like always a great ending [TS]

00:45:18   and then they did it again i said okay [TS]

00:45:20   well it's really a great ending yeah [TS]

00:45:21   yeah to do it twice [TS]

00:45:24   directed by sam would who directed the [TS]

00:45:26   Night at the Opera I'm previous [TS]

00:45:28   selection forget old movie closing so [TS]

00:45:30   many old movies now it's amazing [TS]

00:45:32   yeah Ford movie by got a few notes i [TS]

00:45:35   gotta bleed off as is my wat i have to [TS]

00:45:37   have to call out in a very early scene [TS]

00:45:39   where yung Lu is a is playing in the [TS]

00:45:42   sandlot he there's go ahead the allow it [TS]

00:45:47   yes the the younger boys the other boys [TS]

00:45:49   I think they what they require them to [TS]

00:45:50   pay [TS]

00:45:51   in baseball card and paste in baseball [TS]

00:45:53   cards just to play and you know he sets [TS]

00:45:57   up in the batter's box and I think [TS]

00:45:59   there's a single pitch and he swings and [TS]

00:46:02   then roughly half a second later about [TS]

00:46:05   10 feet behind him the a ball is clearly [TS]

00:46:08   shot out of some sort of cannons and [TS]

00:46:12   disappears into the middle distance yeah [TS]

00:46:14   was that you know you would think you [TS]

00:46:16   could get a kid to actually hit a ball [TS]

00:46:18   it's something you would think in the [TS]

00:46:19   making of this film but yeah speaking of [TS]

00:46:21   that scene where you get a ball and [TS]

00:46:23   broke a window that's it that's okay [TS]

00:46:25   because Sandlot baseball is played [TS]

00:46:27   nearer offices story and I thought it [TS]

00:46:31   was weird that actory yeah I thought I [TS]

00:46:34   thought it was weird that men columbia [TS]

00:46:35   athletic director's office also had a [TS]

00:46:39   windows are you saying that they don't [TS]

00:46:41   field [TS]

00:46:42   well that's how they can tell they're [TS]

00:46:43   good prospect i read some bit of trivia [TS]

00:46:45   there that said that that was that was [TS]

00:46:47   one of the bit of apocryphal things [TS]

00:46:49   about this problem is that is not in [TS]

00:46:51   fact hovering a few feet over the [TS]

00:46:53   baseball time a little bit of artistic [TS]

00:46:55   license there there's a line that that i [TS]

00:46:58   have to mention because it feels [TS]

00:47:00   strangely low for this otherwise dramas [TS]

00:47:03   film it's what we have to do kill you to [TS]

00:47:06   get you out of the lineup yeah yeah I [TS]

00:47:08   was wondering how that stayed in the [TS]

00:47:09   script yeah I have that I have that line [TS]

00:47:12   written down with like 10 ! that really [TS]

00:47:16   wow for didn't write you want that after [TS]

00:47:21   its cold you know another thing that I [TS]

00:47:23   found quite disturbing was when they [TS]

00:47:25   refer to Eleanor's father mr. Twitchell [TS]

00:47:28   as the hot dog king is when everybody [TS]

00:47:29   knows that Roman is the hot dog king of [TS]

00:47:32   chicago sausage king of Chicago i'll [TS]

00:47:34   have you know well sausages hot it's a [TS]

00:47:37   subtle but very important is it so very [TS]

00:47:39   much difference [TS]

00:47:41   welcome to sauce attract anything had [TS]

00:47:43   two kings have negotiated for [TS]

00:47:45   generations to have to separate their [TS]

00:47:47   their empires last thing i want to [TS]

00:47:50   mention is the the goodbye speech which [TS]

00:47:53   is generally pretty awesome throughout [TS]

00:47:56   the entirety of it there's this really [TS]

00:47:57   grainy process shot of babe ruth's face [TS]

00:48:00   yeah bottom like cut eventually but he's [TS]

00:48:03   there for a long time [TS]

00:48:04   I'm behind a microphone just it's [TS]

00:48:06   terrifying and he's a scary guy [TS]

00:48:09   yeah I like Babe Ruth throughout this [TS]

00:48:10   movie but that part is weird I i do like [TS]

00:48:12   Moby I just you know that guy was a he [TS]

00:48:15   was a character and it comes through [TS]

00:48:16   that he's a character even though it's [TS]

00:48:18   you know old babies playing in paper if [TS]

00:48:19   you had some swell hats babe but this [TS]

00:48:21   one is top yeah uh-huh that's the last [TS]

00:48:27   withdrawal being a hat okay i'm watching [TS]

00:48:29   an awful lot of movies from the thirties [TS]

00:48:31   and forties and I've never seen anybody [TS]

00:48:32   eat a straw hat before is that a thing [TS]

00:48:34   that's to show that they're just big [TS]

00:48:36   kids that's the sort of thing actual [TS]

00:48:37   fraternities would do when they weren't [TS]

00:48:39   sitting on flagpoles okay then you're [TS]

00:48:42   saying terrible things about the poor [TS]

00:48:44   yeah practice also known as the same [TS]

00:48:48   kind of boobs is Gary yes that baseball [TS]

00:48:52   fans are the same kind of boobs carry em [TS]

00:48:55   that's all [TS]

00:48:57   yeah I don't think the final speeches [TS]

00:48:59   nearly as echo is everyone acts I think [TS]

00:49:01   they may be thinking of the actual [TS]

00:49:03   reaction of the actual pieces before the [TS]

00:49:04   Super echoing the actual speech has lots [TS]

00:49:07   of that whoever whoever did this sound [TS]

00:49:09   design for this new there needed to be [TS]

00:49:12   stadium echo but wanted to be audible so [TS]

00:49:14   yes but there are places where it's not [TS]

00:49:17   when they show crowd shots [TS]

00:49:18   surely all you hear is the echo and you [TS]

00:49:20   can actually hear what he's saying in [TS]

00:49:22   those parts which I found kind of us [TS]

00:49:23   really unimportant parts and i like that [TS]

00:49:25   the the the cop in Chicago welcomes [TS]

00:49:28   himself into the mansion so that I love [TS]

00:49:31   that scene that is such a 1940 see we [TS]

00:49:34   can witness the parish proposal he just [TS]

00:49:36   brings you don't need me anymore [TS]

00:49:39   yeah this movie is not paying a great [TS]

00:49:40   picture of police work know how you're a [TS]

00:49:43   baseball player [TS]

00:49:44   come on boys the law don't apply to you [TS]

00:49:47   Lou every police car is driving Lou Gary [TS]

00:49:49   to the stadium [TS]

00:49:51   it was a simpler more innocent time it [TS]

00:49:53   was it was rocks are above the law [TS]

00:49:56   that's really the moral of this tale [TS]

00:49:57   yeah cops were more corrupted we like it [TS]

00:50:00   that way and i love the in the the [TS]

00:50:04   panoply of nuanced accents that make up [TS]

00:50:06   this film the Irish cop at the beginning [TS]

00:50:09   is pretty good super super areas [TS]

00:50:13   yes i would also like to point out that [TS]

00:50:16   that pop gherig has a lovely cameo in [TS]

00:50:19   Casablanca 00 i enjoyed pop carry a lot [TS]

00:50:22   yeah i'll pop characters yeah he stayed [TS]

00:50:24   out of this horrible wipes way [TS]

00:50:26   yeah good work up gary is good and he [TS]

00:50:29   does his best to explain that two young [TS]

00:50:31   one point maybe she makes a complete [TS]

00:50:33   hash of it [TS]

00:50:34   mog eric is terrible but pop Gehrig's [TS]

00:50:37   okay is it right now and i spent a lot [TS]

00:50:39   of this film kind of disappointed [TS]

00:50:40   because I I think you first mentioned [TS]

00:50:42   this character when we were talking [TS]

00:50:44   about Nick vu [TS]

00:50:45   yes and and so I was expecting this an [TS]

00:50:49   accent that would just you know shatter [TS]

00:50:51   my eardrums with its awfulness and the [TS]

00:50:53   the accent isn't really the point you [TS]

00:50:55   know I guess it's really more the [TS]

00:50:56   character yeah yeah I should have I [TS]

00:50:58   should have been more straightforward [TS]

00:51:00   yeah that's alright that's my fault i'm [TS]

00:51:03   not going to get no ceremony Yankee [TS]

00:51:05   Stadium thats future oh some Yahoo seems [TS]

00:51:10   to have gotten loose on the field and is [TS]

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00:52:28   from the people handling your mail with [TS]

00:52:29   bottom line is what mail route does is [TS]

00:52:31   it gets between you and the big bad [TS]

00:52:33   internet that's trying to send you [TS]

00:52:35   terrible terrible mail you don't see it [TS]

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00:52:40   a risk-free trial without even putting [TS]

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00:52:43   not to sign up you need to change your [TS]

00:52:45   MX record so you need somebody who knows [TS]

00:52:46   what that is if you don't know what that [TS]

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00:52:51   you and then your mailbox and hardware [TS]

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00:52:55   cloud with the intelligence of mail [TS]

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00:53:15   their frog marching that guy off the [TS]

00:53:16   field [TS]

00:53:16   so back to the action well let's move [TS]

00:53:19   ahead 35 years yes let's go ahead to a [TS]

00:53:23   film about is a diametrically Posey and [TS]

00:53:27   Derek story as one can be and still be a [TS]

00:53:30   movie how do i I don't think the the [TS]

00:53:34   word scabrous can be used and how to [TS]

00:53:37   describe motion pictures quite the way [TS]

00:53:41   it would describe the bad news bears [TS]

00:53:42   which is a I just think a delightful [TS]

00:53:49   commentary about sport and childhood and [TS]

00:53:54   how adults ruined everything [TS]

00:53:56   my yep yeah and it I everytime i watch [TS]

00:54:01   this movie I think off the bad news [TS]

00:54:02   bears this is this is gonna be okay and [TS]

00:54:05   then i watch Messick my god this is a [TS]

00:54:07   great picture it is it really is [TS]

00:54:09   considered maybe one of my top 5 this is [TS]

00:54:12   the time I watch it I everything about [TS]

00:54:13   this movie is so fantastic from the [TS]

00:54:16   screenplay to the direction the acting [TS]

00:54:18   it is it is so good anyhow I should [TS]

00:54:22   probably summarize the movie as quickly [TS]

00:54:24   as possible [TS]

00:54:25   there's a very competitive little league [TS]

00:54:27   team in southern a little league in [TS]

00:54:29   Southern California a do-gooder city [TS]

00:54:32   councilman Sue's so that everyone can [TS]

00:54:34   participate in and all the cast offs are [TS]

00:54:39   thrown into this one [TS]

00:54:40   team which is managed by Morris [TS]

00:54:42   Buttermaker who is played by what Walter [TS]

00:54:46   Matthau out and the only reason he's [TS]

00:54:48   apparently doing the gig is because he's [TS]

00:54:49   being paid handsomely to do it [TS]

00:54:51   he's a washed-up minor league baseball [TS]

00:54:53   player he's a high-functioning alcoholic [TS]

00:54:56   although high-functioning might be give [TS]

00:54:58   our duel too much too much credit [TS]

00:55:00   yeah yeah whatever introduced to him [TS]

00:55:02   when he pulls into the Little League [TS]

00:55:03   parking lot at dawn reaches into the [TS]

00:55:05   cooler in his backseat cracks of [TS]

00:55:07   budweiser drains off the top couple of [TS]

00:55:09   ounces and pours in some jacket and I [TS]

00:55:11   want to back up there because i think [TS]

00:55:12   that is one of the greatest opening [TS]

00:55:14   shots in the history of the most [TS]

00:55:15   beautiful you got this beautiful shot of [TS]

00:55:18   a little league team practicing on the [TS]

00:55:21   field and it is just this slice of [TS]

00:55:23   Americana and they're doing drills and [TS]

00:55:26   such a this junker car pulls him and [TS]

00:55:30   it's walter matthau with his hangdog [TS]

00:55:32   expression and he porks about the [TS]

00:55:35   budweiser that is his grab from the [TS]

00:55:37   cooler in the back seat of his card but [TS]

00:55:40   even in the nineteen seventies violating [TS]

00:55:42   all sorts of a big container grabs for [TS]

00:55:46   the bottle of Jim Beam the the Bourbon [TS]

00:55:49   you choose when you really hard [TS]

00:55:51   particular about bourbon or is it into [TS]

00:55:53   his that risk is now empty can of [TS]

00:55:56   budweiser grant is all [TS]

00:55:58   yeah that's flavor country no that's a [TS]

00:56:00   great shot because then sets up the [TS]

00:56:02   entire approach of this movie and we [TS]

00:56:05   kind of know everything we need to know [TS]

00:56:06   about Buttermaker at that point I don't [TS]

00:56:08   think we do yet because we still have at [TS]

00:56:10   this point we've only seen him drink one [TS]

00:56:12   brand of beer [TS]

00:56:13   yeah he the best that he's always [TS]

00:56:15   drinking something different like he [TS]

00:56:17   just wanders historic grabs whatever is [TS]

00:56:18   closed when he got rainier flips [TS]

00:56:20   whatever let's go i'm just drinking beer [TS]

00:56:22   well the obvious explanation for that is [TS]

00:56:24   he bought whatever was on so yeah I've [TS]

00:56:26   literally has he clearly has a favorite [TS]

00:56:28   brand because there are three places [TS]

00:56:29   where we see Budweiser [TS]

00:56:31   yeah but throughout the film he's [TS]

00:56:32   drinking budweiser Mickey's big mouth [TS]

00:56:35   miller high life let's yep there's a [TS]

00:56:37   there's a scene where he actually puts [TS]

00:56:39   the beer back before drinking it we [TS]

00:56:40   don't get to see what brand that is then [TS]

00:56:42   he's on Pabst Blue Ribbon Budweiser [TS]

00:56:44   again more Budweiser and then in the [TS]

00:56:46   championship game he's drinking coors [TS]

00:56:48   though in the bottom half of the 60 [TS]

00:56:50   transitions to lucky lager [TS]

00:56:52   and there's actually a point where he's [TS]

00:56:53   drinking a lucky in a bottle on the [TS]

00:56:55   bench but then he stands up moments [TS]

00:56:56   later and it's turned into a course in [TS]

00:56:58   the kinda and even in the team photo at [TS]

00:57:00   the very end he as a beer it's just it's [TS]

00:57:02   it's fantastic and anything is if you've [TS]

00:57:04   ever dealt with alcoholic and [TS]

00:57:06   particularly a poor outcome you you've [TS]

00:57:10   seen that there's there may be a [TS]

00:57:12   favorite brand there but it's very [TS]

00:57:13   rarely in rotation because the the ANP [TS]

00:57:17   only has one beer on sale right [TS]

00:57:19   everytime i watch bad news bears i am [TS]

00:57:24   surprised because in my head because of [TS]

00:57:27   the first time I saw it it's about kids [TS]

00:57:30   playing baseball [TS]

00:57:31   yeah right and then I watch it I go [TS]

00:57:33   alright this is about water bath out [TS]

00:57:35   right well I'm i saw this movie so many [TS]

00:57:38   times as a kid on TV and so it came off [TS]

00:57:41   to me as just a it's a funny baseball [TS]

00:57:43   movie for kids [TS]

00:57:44   yeah oh it is so not for kids because [TS]

00:57:47   the end this thing is that they they [TS]

00:57:48   trimmed it down the edited for [TS]

00:57:50   television and they took out pretty much [TS]

00:57:51   everything that was you [TS]

00:57:53   objection intellectuals have so much [TS]

00:57:56   stuff that I never noticed back then [TS]

00:57:58   that the fact that they it completely [TS]

00:58:01   I completely missed the fact that they [TS]

00:58:04   only have a team because some a-hole [TS]

00:58:05   politicians sued yeah in the first place [TS]

00:58:08   he doesn't care enough to manage his [TS]

00:58:09   sons team he paid or even talk to the [TS]

00:58:12   games until until the very end of the [TS]

00:58:14   area no one shows up at the games i [TS]

00:58:16   think there's a chance [TS]

00:58:17   all of these kids are orphans I never [TS]

00:58:22   understood why Tatum O'Neal calls him [TS]

00:58:23   boilermaker throughout the film and that [TS]

00:58:25   of course makes more sense now out of [TS]

00:58:27   the one of the funny things is that [TS]

00:58:28   everyone calls him by the wrong name [TS]

00:58:30   using butter waterworks all-butter crud [TS]

00:58:34   x 10.5 well the Tanners got a thing [TS]

00:58:40   a boilermaker as you say and there's [TS]

00:58:42   this like a bunch of other x squared [TS]

00:58:44   people just totally calling the wrong [TS]

00:58:46   name no no one gets out to our forests [TS]

00:58:49   butter [TS]

00:58:50   perhaps most important that the fact [TS]

00:58:54   that the team moms and the coaches are [TS]

00:58:56   so absolutely awful completely [TS]

00:58:58   completely went over my head back that [TS]

00:59:00   and and how much they clearly hate the [TS]

00:59:03   intrusion of butter maker and this [TS]

00:59:05   politician on their little baseball [TS]

00:59:06   fiefdom yeah and that that all rings so [TS]

00:59:09   true laughs as anybody who's ever dealt [TS]

00:59:11   was because apparent now or just any [TS]

00:59:13   kind of like parenting situation right [TS]

00:59:15   now even the people in the office who [TS]

00:59:16   have to update the standings are furious [TS]

00:59:19   that repaired even if ya wanted that one [TS]

00:59:21   of the objections that the league [TS]

00:59:24   manager starts complaining about just [TS]

00:59:27   almost to the point of Mania is then now [TS]

00:59:30   it's an odd number of a league-low I [TS]

00:59:32   understand that complaint you can we [TS]

00:59:35   want everyone to play each weekend right [TS]

00:59:37   and you can't do that with an odd number [TS]

00:59:39   of teams somebody has to have a buy one [TS]

00:59:41   get an A Team could have a that's why [TS]

00:59:43   everybody hates me so so here's my [TS]

00:59:45   background I played Little League [TS]

00:59:46   baseball in the seventies and my team [TS]

00:59:49   was in fact where the rejected players [TS]

00:59:52   went to play yes and we were terrible in [TS]

00:59:55   four years of organized baseball [TS]

00:59:58   we won two games that were [TS]

00:59:58   we won two games that were [TS]

01:00:00   that one year three and one here for [TS]

01:00:02   first two years they were no wins [TS]

01:00:04   I i we we were we were the bad news race [TS]

01:00:07   and in fact when I was i want to say [TS]

01:00:09   first grade the manager who was not a [TS]

01:00:13   parent but for some reason had [TS]

01:00:15   volunteered to manage us offered all of [TS]

01:00:17   the first graders on the team and [TS]

01:00:20   probably second-graders to a pinch of [TS]

01:00:22   his chewing tobacco because that's what [TS]

01:00:27   baseball players did and so I i watch [TS]

01:00:29   this movie thinking oh and I I i don't [TS]

01:00:32   think i've seen it before if I have I [TS]

01:00:34   haven't seen it since it was the edited [TS]

01:00:36   for television you know many many years [TS]

01:00:38   ago and I I had a moment of thinking oh [TS]

01:00:40   my god they made a movie about the team [TS]

01:00:44   that I was on it except there was no [TS]

01:00:46   there was no turnaround where we got [TS]

01:00:47   good players and at the end to make it [TS]

01:00:49   to the finals [TS]

01:00:50   we were just terrible the whole time and [TS]

01:00:52   um and so that was one whole layer where [TS]

01:00:55   I thought oh my god this is I I totally [TS]

01:00:57   know the story and I can identify with [TS]

01:00:59   it and then as a parent of children who [TS]

01:01:01   have been in organized sports for awhile [TS]

01:01:03   i also got to witness all of the things [TS]

01:01:06   about how in the end all of the kids [TS]

01:01:08   just want to play and the grown-ups are [TS]

01:01:11   terrible people who have completely lost [TS]

01:01:14   perspective on why these sports exist so [TS]

01:01:18   I loved it but I also feel like i-i've [TS]

01:01:21   lived both sides of it now in my life [TS]

01:01:23   and so it also really kind of touch me [TS]

01:01:24   that it was I've seen this before I I [TS]

01:01:28   never tore off all of my uniform clothes [TS]

01:01:31   and climbed up a tree but I thought [TS]

01:01:33   about doing it was a beautiful I I [TS]

01:01:37   should probably can conclude that the [TS]

01:01:39   plot of this mature way we can do the [TS]

01:01:42   one yeah yeah we started it he pulls [TS]

01:01:45   into the parking lot of these tricky [TS]

01:01:46   writing [TS]

01:01:47   ok so the scroll his team is terrible [TS]

01:01:49   and damon runyon as a scroll of the [TS]

01:01:51   industry boy what a terrible time this [TS]

01:01:54   is team this poor be the simple and he [TS]

01:01:59   goes good the practices and it's your [TS]

01:02:01   typical [TS]

01:02:02   sports movie montage of poor athletes [TS]

01:02:06   paint poor athletes they play their [TS]

01:02:09   first game against the Yankees who are [TS]

01:02:11   the best team in the league and a side [TS]

01:02:13   note here this is made in 1976 and at [TS]

01:02:16   the time it had been 12 years since the [TS]

01:02:19   yankees had been any any damn good of [TS]

01:02:22   the the major-league Yankees and yet i [TS]

01:02:24   still like the fact that they're all the [TS]

01:02:26   the the most awful thing about sports is [TS]

01:02:30   the Yankees so that they play against [TS]

01:02:35   the Yankee's it's such a humiliating [TS]

01:02:37   loss that Buttermaker actually forfeits [TS]

01:02:40   the game it's 20 don't even get an [TS]

01:02:42   at-bat know it's 22 nothing at one point [TS]

01:02:44   and they're about to disband the team [TS]

01:02:48   and something in butter makers three [TS]

01:02:50   sizes too small heart says and maybe i [TS]

01:02:53   should actually go through the motions [TS]

01:02:54   of of of teaching them how to play [TS]

01:02:56   baseball so I just point out that in [TS]

01:03:00   modern not a kid baseball you have a [TS]

01:03:02   limited number of battered parading so [TS]

01:03:04   there's a mercy at all yes well there's [TS]

01:03:06   a limited like you can you can only bad [TS]

01:03:08   around at most levels and then the [TS]

01:03:10   inning is over whether you got me out on [TS]

01:03:12   that team or not but precisely because [TS]

01:03:14   this would happen otherwise all the time [TS]

01:03:16   all the time so II begins to drama [TS]

01:03:22   little bit more and they're a little [TS]

01:03:25   less terrible those still awful and so [TS]

01:03:28   what [TS]

01:03:29   Buttermaker does at this point is the [TS]

01:03:31   first person he seeks out is the [TS]

01:03:33   daughter of a lady who used to date he [TS]

01:03:35   taught how to pitch he's played by Tatum [TS]

01:03:37   O'Neal this is her first picture that [TS]

01:03:39   she need after winning Best Supporting [TS]

01:03:40   Actress for paper moon [TS]

01:03:43   she's great she is sasha's has to get [TS]

01:03:46   his movement just great [TS]

01:03:47   IMDb has some of the least surprising [TS]

01:03:49   trivia ever other actresses they [TS]

01:03:51   consider kristy mcnichol and jodie [TS]

01:03:53   foster haha yum you basically the other [TS]

01:03:56   two [TS]

01:03:56   yeah and apparently sarah jessica parker [TS]

01:03:59   but Jodi fostered said no I'm gonna go [TS]

01:04:02   make taxi driver [TS]

01:04:03   oh that was a good choice and um kristy [TS]

01:04:06   mcnichol apparently got the part and [TS]

01:04:08   then they said now let's split we can [TS]

01:04:10   get Tatum O'Neal so sorry [TS]

01:04:12   Tatum O'Neal [TS]

01:04:13   is basically a tomboy who doesn't want [TS]

01:04:16   to be a tomboy anymore but she's being a [TS]

01:04:18   tomboy and you can throw she can throw a [TS]

01:04:21   curve that breaks two feet and so she's [TS]

01:04:24   sucked into the movie though not before [TS]

01:04:26   she negotiates with Buttermaker to [TS]

01:04:29   basically find her ballet lessons and [TS]

01:04:31   modeling classes she's selling star maps [TS]

01:04:34   that's a nice detail to she's sitting in [TS]

01:04:36   a lawn chair by the side of the road [TS]

01:04:38   selling the maps to the stars homes when [TS]

01:04:40   he goes to talk to her i love that but [TS]

01:04:42   which is another great character [TS]

01:04:43   introduction now I mean the movies full [TS]

01:04:46   of those so good and then the other [TS]

01:04:48   addition to the team is a Kelly leak the [TS]

01:04:51   coolest kid in school who is played by [TS]

01:04:53   the watchman's jackie earle haley i know [TS]

01:04:55   i love that my wife was physically [TS]

01:04:58   repelled by Jackie her it would rip this [TS]

01:05:01   he knows what she knows what he's going [TS]

01:05:04   to grow up to become this this this this [TS]

01:05:07   for audition ami yeah let's not forget [TS]

01:05:11   he also played Freddy Krueger he was one [TS]

01:05:13   of the cutters and breaking away [TS]

01:05:15   Breaking Away where he's kind of gross [TS]

01:05:17   quite frankly he's pretty repellent in [TS]

01:05:19   this as well I mean there's that they [TS]

01:05:21   negotiate the the terms of the air hot [TS]

01:05:23   on one point [TS]

01:05:25   yeah and and she she's she specifies [TS]

01:05:28   that if if she wins the game that he has [TS]

01:05:30   to play for their team and a so he says [TS]

01:05:33   well what if you lose and she says name [TS]

01:05:35   it and there's this grid creeps across [TS]

01:05:37   the face that is the creepiest because [TS]

01:05:40   then it turns out all he wanted was to [TS]

01:05:42   go to a Rolling Stones concert with her [TS]

01:05:44   and she's furious [TS]

01:05:45   even though I'm pretty sure the rolling [TS]

01:05:46   stones were a good concert in 1976 yeah [TS]

01:05:49   yeah very good concept in 1976 but my [TS]

01:05:52   favorite part of that that little [TS]

01:05:53   negotiation if she goes back to the car [TS]

01:05:55   after she's lost and Walter Matthau how [TS]

01:05:59   how to go and then and he says I lost i [TS]

01:06:02   have to go to roll instant concert movie [TS]

01:06:04   with them and and math was just a [TS]

01:06:07   plastic and now if he tries to get fresh [TS]

01:06:10   with you do this and she says who do you [TS]

01:06:12   think you are my father and wishes on [TS]

01:06:14   your god damn manager and I that is that [TS]

01:06:17   is one of the best exchanges in the [TS]

01:06:19   movie because it perfectly encapsulates [TS]

01:06:21   the relationship between those two [TS]

01:06:24   yeah let's seems like that makes me [TS]

01:06:25   wonder what Tatum O'Neal's me [TS]

01:06:27   other thinks of all this now is [TS]

01:06:29   saturated math out for about two years [TS]

01:06:31   yeah clearly she doesn't have a lot of [TS]

01:06:33   and now he's back in her daughter's life [TS]

01:06:35   yeah I see was apparently sad when he [TS]

01:06:38   left them the broker heart so that gives [TS]

01:06:40   you an idea of what I think a lot of the [TS]

01:06:44   the walter matthau Tatum O'Neal reunion [TS]

01:06:47   was done on the Qt suppose my mother mom [TS]

01:06:50   because I don't think she would have had [TS]

01:06:52   get objected and later on in the movie [TS]

01:06:54   we find out the Tatum O'Neal negotiates [TS]

01:06:56   that mom should come to the game to [TS]

01:06:58   watch and maybe go out on the date with [TS]

01:07:01   Walter Matthau afterwards but we're [TS]

01:07:02   getting ahead of ourselves because it [TS]

01:07:05   reads almost like they're a divorced [TS]

01:07:07   couple and yet she is his his daughter [TS]

01:07:10   she actually is it done and that's not [TS]

01:07:11   in the story but you might as well [TS]

01:07:13   portrayed it that way then yeah he's [TS]

01:07:14   coming back into her life in order to do [TS]

01:07:16   this and and they have to negotiate the [TS]

01:07:18   presence of the mother at the last game [TS]

01:07:21   and in fact in there in the remake from [TS]

01:07:24   2005 which we may or may not talk about [TS]

01:07:27   after this she not she actually is his [TS]

01:07:30   daughter haha but is so anyhow Kelly [TS]

01:07:35   leak played by the watchman's Jackie [TS]

01:07:38   Earle Haley the question our Shack not [TS]

01:07:41   the question i forget i don't i don't [TS]

01:07:43   know if you kind of excited that funny [TS]

01:07:47   books is the question [TS]

01:07:49   oh he uh uh he is not going to join the [TS]

01:07:54   team but then he is bullied by the [TS]

01:07:56   manager of the yankees and he decides to [TS]

01:07:58   join the team isn't a few to the more oh [TS]

01:08:01   yeah it was never played a likeable [TS]

01:08:03   character in any movie I've ever seen on [TS]

01:08:07   yeah he's so unlikeable visits great he [TS]

01:08:09   has no most magnificent of bastards in [TS]

01:08:11   this year's every bad parent [TS]

01:08:14   kodad kids sports team of any kind [TS]

01:08:19   yeah all rolled into one it's amazing [TS]

01:08:21   and yet you [TS]

01:08:23   yeah you hate him so with it a decent [TS]

01:08:25   picture and a decent player the Bears [TS]

01:08:28   finally start winning games [TS]

01:08:31   they move up the standings and they [TS]

01:08:33   somehow wind up into the championship [TS]

01:08:35   game with the with the FR mentioned [TS]

01:08:37   Yankees and on at the same time Walter [TS]

01:08:42   Matthau becomes less of the easygoing [TS]

01:08:44   beer-swilling a fun dad that he was and [TS]

01:08:48   more of the demanding come on you kids [TS]

01:08:51   this is what you wanted kind of terrible [TS]

01:08:53   parent and it all sort of culminates in [TS]

01:08:57   the in the championship game where both [TS]

01:09:00   he and Vic Mauro apparently are having a [TS]

01:09:03   a dick contest to see you can be bigger [TS]

01:09:05   one and Walter Matthau potentially sees [TS]

01:09:11   oh god I'm being horrible and just sort [TS]

01:09:14   of cracks himself a beer and says hey [TS]

01:09:16   kids i'm going to put in all the [TS]

01:09:17   terrible players now and if we win we [TS]

01:09:20   win if we lose we lose and as it turns [TS]

01:09:25   out they lose but there's a there's a [TS]

01:09:27   wonderful moment at the end where the [TS]

01:09:29   Yankees give sort of a heart [TS]

01:09:30   half-hearted well you guys showed heart [TS]

01:09:33   and you're okay by us and Tanner Boyle [TS]

01:09:36   who is the scrappy fight seeking [TS]

01:09:38   shortstop because it was about three [TS]

01:09:40   foot tall if this movie [TS]

01:09:42   he says you can take your apology and [TS]

01:09:44   your trophy and and and shove it up your [TS]

01:09:47   ass and then and it is also one of the [TS]

01:09:51   few children's movies that features a [TS]

01:09:53   full-scale brawl which i think is just a [TS]

01:09:58   wonderful moment again movies that's [TS]

01:10:01   basically want to see these kids punched [TS]

01:10:03   at this point yeah oh yeah everyone is [TS]

01:10:05   punching and i should i should mention [TS]

01:10:07   that in the vista to go for full circle [TS]

01:10:10   and Vic Mauro his sons the start picture [TS]

01:10:13   on the yankees his son wants to strike [TS]

01:10:15   out the fact catcher uncle Bert the [TS]

01:10:19   worst bear the thinner [TS]

01:10:21   yeah Erica knows when I'm talking about [TS]

01:10:24   my far and the most all can't even get a [TS]

01:10:27   jersey that for now that fits he's awful [TS]

01:10:30   and he's giving the finger to the [TS]

01:10:33   picture and the picture wants to strike [TS]

01:10:34   him out and but the dad says hey Vic [TS]

01:10:38   Mauro says hey walk this kid instead he [TS]

01:10:40   throws at his head and Vic Mauro and [TS]

01:10:42   rage walks out [TS]

01:10:44   and smacks the half-life and asked his [TS]

01:10:46   son all haha [TS]

01:10:48   knocks him down as Maxum so hard its [TS]

01:10:50   silent [TS]

01:10:51   yeah and and she creates a yeah it is my [TS]

01:10:55   god it is it is a devastating scene in [TS]

01:10:59   what has previously been an uproarious [TS]

01:11:01   comedy that that in the scene where [TS]

01:11:04   Walter Matthau throws the beer at the [TS]

01:11:08   head of tatum o'neal when she's [TS]

01:11:09   suggesting that he and his and her mom [TS]

01:11:13   get back together again and he says God [TS]

01:11:15   if I wanted to get back together I would [TS]

01:11:17   have looked you up two years ago and [TS]

01:11:18   that was there so many scenes here where [TS]

01:11:21   where Matthew know as a reprobate he's [TS]

01:11:24   he's he gets so angry and he's clearly [TS]

01:11:26   teetering on the brink of violence and [TS]

01:11:28   hold himself back at the last minute we [TS]

01:11:30   actually my wife and I counted how many [TS]

01:11:32   times a walter matthau curses and [TS]

01:11:34   children in this movie and it is [TS]

01:11:36   innocent the double digits yeah it's [TS]

01:11:38   delightful [TS]

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01:13:01   and thank you so much too well front for [TS]

01:13:03   sponsoring the uncomfortable one of the [TS]

01:13:06   nice things about this is that Vic [TS]

01:13:08   Morrow scene where he where he boils [TS]

01:13:10   over and and smacks his son on the mound [TS]

01:13:13   at this point in the movie [TS]

01:13:15   things have gotten you know they go up [TS]

01:13:18   and down but it's really like continuing [TS]

01:13:19   to crank up the bad behavior especially [TS]

01:13:21   the parents you know and you kind of [TS]

01:13:23   forgive it because it's simmering there [TS]

01:13:25   it's like it's bad you're like ok these [TS]

01:13:27   people are bad it's a commentary on it [TS]

01:13:29   they're behaving outrageously but you [TS]

01:13:30   know it's still funny and I'm gonna [TS]

01:13:32   laugh at it and then Vic Mauro hits this [TS]

01:13:35   kid at and that's the moment and then [TS]

01:13:37   it's silent and that's the moment when [TS]

01:13:39   you realize not only is this I'm [TS]

01:13:40   acceptable but lots of other things that [TS]

01:13:42   you kind of let go are also unacceptable [TS]

01:13:44   leaving right this is a really great [TS]

01:13:46   moment when there's still a bit of grip [TS]

01:13:48   that's still a bit of crescendo left [TS]

01:13:50   yeah we're math math was continuing to [TS]

01:13:52   spiral out of control even after seeing [TS]

01:13:54   this and then he gives his don't you [TS]

01:13:56   want to beat those bastards speech and [TS]

01:13:58   then and then that scene there we get [TS]

01:14:00   close-ups of all the incredulous players [TS]

01:14:03   totally silent yeah and then you get [TS]

01:14:04   this lingering shot of Matthew and you [TS]

01:14:06   see that the dawning realization of he [TS]

01:14:10   knows what he's becoming up is so damn [TS]

01:14:12   good he almost looks like he's going to [TS]

01:14:13   cry there [TS]

01:14:14   yeah and it's it's just that it's a [TS]

01:14:16   heart-rending and wonderful moment [TS]

01:14:18   because that's when he realizes he needs [TS]

01:14:19   to pull it back and and put in the case [TS]

01:14:22   you haven't played yet let them play [TS]

01:14:24   even though it means they're gonna lose [TS]

01:14:25   the game [TS]

01:14:25   yeah the moral of this movie is that you [TS]

01:14:27   have to care slightly more about winning [TS]

01:14:30   than zero so Buttermaker has to learn a [TS]

01:14:33   little bit at the beginning of the movie [TS]

01:14:35   but you should not care a whole lot [TS]

01:14:37   about winning yet you care [TS]

01:14:39   I think about thirty percent otherwise [TS]

01:14:41   your monster in either direction and of [TS]

01:14:43   course that we should point out that the [TS]

01:14:45   movie ends with after they've lost [TS]

01:14:47   Buttermaker handing out beers 211 [TS]

01:14:49   it's still great and then the parents [TS]

01:14:51   are just hoisting their kids around they [TS]

01:14:53   clearly don't give a damn that the kids [TS]

01:14:54   are toting beers this is probably the [TS]

01:14:56   first game any of the parents of [TS]

01:14:57   attended and the one person you express [TS]

01:14:59   concern is all their cameras here we [TS]

01:15:02   told this [TS]

01:15:03   yeah that's that's a big concern that's [TS]

01:15:06   what's the politician of course the one [TS]

01:15:08   that's concerned about it so that one [TS]

01:15:09   kid's been riding a motor [TS]

01:15:10   cycle without a helmet the whole movie [TS]

01:15:12   my was things were done with the nature [TS]

01:15:15   of the day as opposed to when the entire [TS]

01:15:16   team is writing in Buttermaker scar [TS]

01:15:18   without me seatbelt as he's drinking [TS]

01:15:21   yeah yeah yeah that's okay too it's [TS]

01:15:23   worth mentioning that this that if there [TS]

01:15:25   ever was a movie they've got growing up [TS]

01:15:27   seventies just right yeah it's totally [TS]

01:15:29   this one is I mean from the from Little [TS]

01:15:31   League night at the pizza hut really [TS]

01:15:33   should be a Shakey's but you know close [TS]

01:15:35   it's whatever your God you know the [TS]

01:15:37   scene in the arcade is great where [TS]

01:15:38   there's nothing behind but pinball [TS]

01:15:40   possess base invaders didn't come out [TS]

01:15:42   yet [TS]

01:15:42   yeah also also I enjoy the fact that the [TS]

01:15:45   Yankees have sponsored by dennys and [TS]

01:15:47   Danny's got its own promotional [TS]

01:15:48   consideration credit in the movie and I [TS]

01:15:51   reply I just imagine the executives at [TS]

01:15:53   dennys going sit watching the screening [TS]

01:15:55   of this movie good we did not agree to [TS]

01:15:58   play sponsored by we sponsor the team of [TS]

01:16:01   the man who strikes a child i noticed [TS]

01:16:03   chico of chico's bail bonds was smart [TS]

01:16:05   enough not how it is maybe that is a [TS]

01:16:06   beautiful setup the the UK because it's [TS]

01:16:09   just natural that these kids have [TS]

01:16:11   danny's on their backs and these kids [TS]

01:16:13   have pizza hut on their backs and then [TS]

01:16:15   because because I Buttermaker has had to [TS]

01:16:18   sell his own sponsorships to get the [TS]

01:16:19   uniforms chicos bail bonds on the bits [TS]

01:16:22   oh that's a good joke i don't i don't [TS]

01:16:24   know if that's the greatest visual joke [TS]

01:16:26   in the history of movies because it is [TS]

01:16:29   the top 10 it's especially great about [TS]

01:16:32   that is that it's he gets the uniforms [TS]

01:16:35   and hand them out to the kids several [TS]

01:16:36   scenes before that yeah they could have [TS]

01:16:38   taken the opportunity right then to tell [TS]

01:16:40   that you but they wait and it's subtle [TS]

01:16:42   because you don't see even remotely a [TS]

01:16:44   bit of the back of the uniform but you [TS]

01:16:46   don't even think about it because it's [TS]

01:16:48   just it's played so well they don't do [TS]

01:16:50   any of those camera tricks that make it [TS]

01:16:51   very clear that they're not showing you [TS]

01:16:52   the back and who could this be it just [TS]

01:16:54   it just comes up later and then you [TS]

01:16:56   laugh could just be showing us these [TS]

01:16:57   kids lined up and ready to go and also [TS]

01:16:59   I'd i believe they show that during the [TS]

01:17:01   National and as the nationally out of [TS]

01:17:03   this being something they smoke they [TS]

01:17:04   show all the sponsors of the teams and [TS]

01:17:06   there's chicos bail bonds [TS]

01:17:08   there's a lot of scenes like that works [TS]

01:17:09   there doing the Pledge of Allegiance and [TS]

01:17:11   and Walter Matthau was reading the [TS]

01:17:13   Pledge of Allegiance because he doesn't [TS]

01:17:14   know yes and [TS]

01:17:16   and you look at modern day baseball [TS]

01:17:18   where they interrupt games for to play [TS]

01:17:21   God Bless America and you think boy the [TS]

01:17:23   bad news bears was ahead of its yeah [TS]

01:17:25   yeah one of the things i think really [TS]

01:17:26   makes the Chico's bail bonds joke land [TS]

01:17:28   is that they do a different joke first [TS]

01:17:31   because they told you all of the good [TS]

01:17:33   colors are taken and that means that the [TS]

01:17:36   badges bears end up with yellow and [TS]

01:17:38   white [TS]

01:17:38   yeah which is kind of cool if you look [TS]

01:17:41   at the final game there are people in [TS]

01:17:42   the stage wearing yellow and white [TS]

01:17:44   mhm they've got a fan base yeah but you [TS]

01:17:47   think because they've done the joke will [TS]

01:17:50   see they got the bad colors there's not [TS]

01:17:52   another job coming there is Erica you [TS]

01:17:55   are you are not a you're a 40 movie fan [TS]

01:17:58   and not a huge baseball fan what was [TS]

01:18:00   your take on the bad news bears i am [TS]

01:18:02   also not a fan of movies from the [TS]

01:18:04   seventies to sort of in general i'm [TS]

01:18:07   gerry was that racist decade for movies [TS]

01:18:09   huh you guys thought that the pride of [TS]

01:18:13   the Yankees was long i felt like this [TS]

01:18:14   this to me you even though it's only a [TS]

01:18:16   hundred two minutes felt at least half [TS]

01:18:18   again as long while as pride of the [TS]

01:18:20   Yankees it just just that style of [TS]

01:18:22   filmmaking where everywhere you get a [TS]

01:18:24   reaction shot from every single [TS]

01:18:26   character in strong words from Canada [TS]

01:18:29   just it just doesn't where there are a [TS]

01:18:32   lot of reaction shots of every [TS]

01:18:33   Samaritans reaction show everything just [TS]

01:18:36   stretches out it just feels so so kind [TS]

01:18:39   of gradient and realistic and that is i [TS]

01:18:42   like the the shiny happy 47th nobody's [TS]

01:18:45   naturalistic and nobody reacts in the [TS]

01:18:47   nineteen forties so they just accept [TS]

01:18:49   what happens on speed and there's a [TS]

01:18:52   musical number dammit where is the music [TS]

01:18:54   / bad news bears everyone is gross in [TS]

01:18:56   nineteen seventies much so just like [TS]

01:18:58   everyone in the nineteen seventies see I [TS]

01:19:00   don't want that I've experienced you [TS]

01:19:02   know a part of the nineteen seventies [TS]

01:19:04   and Phil thinks i think this whole movie [TS]

01:19:06   was shot with natural light but there's [TS]

01:19:09   a lot of shots like no natural light [TS]

01:19:10   doesn't actually show up in butter [TS]

01:19:12   makers handed anyone that may be the way [TS]

01:19:19   it does look III it looks and i'm going [TS]

01:19:23   to take this based also on what Erika [TS]

01:19:25   said I think this movie looks great but [TS]

01:19:28   it looks great in the sense that it kind [TS]

01:19:29   of look [TS]

01:19:30   gross i ng it is the rng fit is a [TS]

01:19:33   seventies I mean it he has got that [TS]

01:19:36   crappy car the AA it you know it is it [TS]

01:19:40   it feels very seventies to me but any in [TS]

01:19:43   a nostalgic away because a lot of movies [TS]

01:19:45   from the seventies are in portraying [TS]

01:19:46   things that I didn't experience when I [TS]

01:19:48   was a kid in the seventies but this this [TS]

01:19:50   is something i did experience and it was [TS]

01:19:52   just like this the only difference [TS]

01:19:53   honestly is that where I played peewee [TS]

01:19:56   baseball there with the field didn't [TS]

01:19:59   have grass all we had was dirt we [TS]

01:20:01   practiced on dirt i do want to make it [TS]

01:20:04   clear though that I I recognize all the [TS]

01:20:06   things you guys are saying and I I [TS]

01:20:07   understand why people like this film so [TS]

01:20:11   I'm not saying it's terrible it's just [TS]

01:20:12   very much not for me however i really [TS]

01:20:14   liked the end I had never seen it before [TS]

01:20:16   I never actually saw this film so I was [TS]

01:20:18   expecting when Walter Matthau outputs in [TS]

01:20:21   the lousy kids i was expecting that [TS]

01:20:23   somehow they were gonna pull it out and [TS]

01:20:25   they were going to win and I was like [TS]

01:20:26   this is terrible this is teaching the [TS]

01:20:27   wrong lesson but then they lost and I [TS]

01:20:30   was like all right you know what I'm I'm [TS]

01:20:31   kind of on board with this movie now I [TS]

01:20:33   appreciate this so the right lesson then [TS]

01:20:34   is when you take second place throw your [TS]

01:20:36   pitiful trophy and curses and have a [TS]

01:20:39   beer [TS]

01:20:40   let me let me let me lay a truth bomb on [TS]

01:20:43   you they actually filmed two endings and [TS]

01:20:47   this is it is the right thing [TS]

01:20:49   this is according to both of the actors [TS]

01:20:51   who played Toby andrew d steyn they they [TS]

01:20:55   get it two ways that Kelly leak is [TS]

01:20:57   called out at the plate and Kelly leak [TS]

01:20:59   is called safe at the plate and the [TS]

01:21:03   actors the kids didn't actually know how [TS]

01:21:05   the movie edited and they tested the [TS]

01:21:08   films and audiences did not really like [TS]

01:21:11   the one with the Bears win [TS]

01:21:13   good for them I daresay that would ruin [TS]

01:21:16   the entire film yeah [TS]

01:21:17   yep the director Michael Richie took [TS]

01:21:19   some of the kids out for dinner before [TS]

01:21:21   the before the premiere and said hey so [TS]

01:21:24   here's how the movie you made actually [TS]

01:21:26   ends and they're all yeah makes sense [TS]

01:21:28   and yeah and i think i like y'all's aids [TS]

01:21:32   it's it would not have been a good movie [TS]

01:21:35   if the bad news bears win that game you [TS]

01:21:37   know if they win the morale of the movie [TS]

01:21:39   would be even a bad team can win [TS]

01:21:42   if they get enough ringers Yeah right [TS]

01:21:44   right button that's one of the problems [TS]

01:21:46   with this movie is the fact that two [TS]

01:21:48   ringers one good picture and one good [TS]

01:21:49   hitter is really not enough to overcome [TS]

01:21:51   the handicap of the rest of the team [TS]

01:21:53   well you don't know that because they're [TS]

01:21:55   so bad in the first game because of the [TS]

01:21:57   pitching [TS]

01:21:58   yeah right like really really Stein is [TS]

01:22:00   really bringing that team down like one [TS]

01:22:02   of the things i like about the movies [TS]

01:22:04   that it honors the baseball side of it [TS]

01:22:05   we're clearly their biggest flaw is [TS]

01:22:08   their inability to pitch so you bring in [TS]

01:22:11   a good picture somebody to learn to [TS]

01:22:13   curveball at nine so she's definitely [TS]

01:22:15   gonna need elbow surgery at some point [TS]

01:22:16   right [TS]

01:22:17   shortly after this movie it looks like [TS]

01:22:19   yeah immediately after the last day here [TS]

01:22:22   in fact admittedly they do show that the [TS]

01:22:24   other kids have learned to hit around [TS]

01:22:26   the CMYK Goldberg can can hit only could [TS]

01:22:29   have hit in the first game just they [TS]

01:22:30   never got too bad it didn't forget about [TS]

01:22:32   and Ahmed can can can hit ya i don't [TS]

01:22:36   like the same lupus catches that ball to [TS]

01:22:38   send it to the bottom of the knife [TS]

01:22:40   yes like in wkrp in cincinnati yes [TS]

01:22:42   that's your that's your big victory [TS]

01:22:44   moment right there [TS]

01:22:45   that'sthat's to compensate for you not [TS]

01:22:47   seeing the team win at the end you at [TS]

01:22:48   least see lupus lupus caches of all that [TS]

01:22:50   wonderful happy moment where they all [TS]

01:22:52   run out and celebrate Lucas's catch [TS]

01:22:54   probably more violently than they would [TS]

01:22:55   celebrate actually winning the game so [TS]

01:22:57   can i point out how fascinating this [TS]

01:22:59   movie is in the sense that it has all of [TS]

01:23:02   the code all of the sudden code words [TS]

01:23:04   all of the words that are derogatory [TS]

01:23:06   toward other races young and the team is [TS]

01:23:10   remarkably diverse the only diverse team [TS]

01:23:14   the team is being gay boy they put they [TS]

01:23:16   put the Mexican kids and the black kid [TS]

01:23:18   on this team [TS]

01:23:19   then if they've got their share of [TS]

01:23:21   indistinguishable blonde kids to they do [TS]

01:23:24   there are some yeah but an appointment [TS]

01:23:27   because that one is the politicians kid [TS]

01:23:29   who for some reason couldn't get into [TS]

01:23:30   another team they all hate him [TS]

01:23:31   baby sucks yeah he seems quite [TS]

01:23:33   indispensable read more on who naturally [TS]

01:23:35   would not be on another team elsewhere [TS]

01:23:37   and ahmad he's got a he's got an aha [TS]

01:23:40   moment at one point that's really funny [TS]

01:23:43   this is for Allah and it's going way out [TS]

01:23:45   this sucks okay yeah pretty much [TS]

01:23:48   yeah it was Miss direction when he was [TS]

01:23:50   first introduced to me that I want to [TS]

01:23:52   play where Hank Aaron played in my head [TS]

01:23:53   I'm like oh Claire Wisconsin [TS]

01:23:55   my dad feeling better Hank Aaron plane [TS]

01:23:59   and one who wouldn't work generally and [TS]

01:24:01   then he pulls off all of his all these [TS]

01:24:03   uniforms when he's at me and he climbs [TS]

01:24:04   up in the tree which is great and [TS]

01:24:06   without goes and gets them [TS]

01:24:07   hey this is nice for baseball near that [TS]

01:24:09   I am I I actually spent much of sunday [TS]

01:24:11   morning this week thinking about well [TS]

01:24:14   would a child idolizing 1976 if they [TS]

01:24:18   were if they were 11 years old and and [TS]

01:24:22   and I i thought yeah probably Hank area [TS]

01:24:24   most likely Reggie Jackson yeah I felt [TS]

01:24:27   like a mod didn't get a lot of screen [TS]

01:24:29   time but his story was picked up and [TS]

01:24:32   expanded for the character of Willie [TS]

01:24:34   Mays Hayes in baby yeah I guess what he [TS]

01:24:37   wants to be a power hitter but really he [TS]

01:24:40   should be hitting the ball on the ground [TS]

01:24:41   running it out [TS]

01:24:42   he's a little Brock tight yeah I also [TS]

01:24:44   like the aguilar kids [TS]

01:24:47   no yeah they are they're great and and [TS]

01:24:49   they're there are several moments where [TS]

01:24:51   they just say things in spanish and they [TS]

01:24:53   kill me [TS]

01:24:53   it's it's so fun and Tanner's response [TS]

01:24:56   when they're they're talking about Kelly [TS]

01:24:57   leak and the kid says something [TS]

01:24:58   incomprehensible in Spanish and he says [TS]

01:25:00   I don't know what he's talking about [TS]

01:25:01   what I like it was also an orange like [TS]

01:25:03   this of diet Diablo like that and if i'm [TS]

01:25:07   gonna use can't leave to be believed in [TS]

01:25:10   the trivia section of imdb.com of those [TS]

01:25:13   kids spoke a look a spanish really [TS]

01:25:17   really yeah i know they they spoke [TS]

01:25:19   English perfectly that may have to be [TS]

01:25:21   taught spanish right and and then you [TS]

01:25:22   get the idea delfin with yeah we'll be [TS]

01:25:24   doing well where he's just so small that [TS]

01:25:26   they can't they just have to walk him [TS]

01:25:28   because you can't pitch to that kid [TS]

01:25:30   that's only that but it's funny because [TS]

01:25:32   then you've got the foul-mouthed kid who [TS]

01:25:34   is who is you know probably repeating [TS]

01:25:37   from their parents every horrible awful [TS]

01:25:42   thing you could say about people of [TS]

01:25:43   other races and they and they almost and [TS]

01:25:46   they turn that around to it's like well [TS]

01:25:48   they're all on our team so it's a it's a [TS]

01:25:52   it's fascinating to me that that it is [TS]

01:25:54   both so just like giving the kids beer [TS]

01:25:55   at the end it's tough to it that a movie [TS]

01:25:57   would not do today I think and it's and [TS]

01:26:00   it's uncomfortable and yet I really the [TS]

01:26:03   only the only film our or our creative [TS]

01:26:06   endeavor that could get away [TS]

01:26:07   that is south park and that's because [TS]

01:26:09   they're animated spread em [TS]

01:26:11   have you guys seen the movie kids by [TS]

01:26:12   harmony Kareem ok we have a may have a [TS]

01:26:16   big Hollywood production ok studio yeah [TS]

01:26:18   something else that I don't think a [TS]

01:26:20   modern movie would do today at least not [TS]

01:26:22   a modern movie like this that's [TS]

01:26:24   ostensibly a comedy aimed at kids is I I [TS]

01:26:27   think it's one of my favorite things [TS]

01:26:28   about the movie it's the fact that this [TS]

01:26:30   at least in large part is kind of a tale [TS]

01:26:33   of redemption for Buttermaker but it's a [TS]

01:26:35   really minor Redemption yeah i mean he's [TS]

01:26:38   not really [TS]

01:26:39   15 it's not it's not like a league of [TS]

01:26:41   their own where he like stop drinking [TS]

01:26:44   and no why are you still a drunk and you [TS]

01:26:47   get that they're gonna keep drinking it [TS]

01:26:48   when he yeah i mean he's still sitting [TS]

01:26:50   in the dugout drinking course in that [TS]

01:26:51   championship not given any hands up [TS]

01:26:53   here's to the kids to track them what [TS]

01:26:54   drag them down to it's a story of a guy [TS]

01:26:56   who doesn't care anymore becoming a guy [TS]

01:26:59   who who cares [TS]

01:26:59   yeah right nothing else is repaired in [TS]

01:27:02   him but he goes from being he is totally [TS]

01:27:04   disaffected he's not he's not talking to [TS]

01:27:07   to a ceremonial anymore to Amanda he is [TS]

01:27:13   just cleaning pools he's only doing this [TS]

01:27:15   gig because he's getting paid by the [TS]

01:27:17   city councilman or whatever and then by [TS]

01:27:18   and and and he starts to turn was like [TS]

01:27:20   no no we're going to play anyway but by [TS]

01:27:22   the end he's like he's got the proper [TS]

01:27:24   perspective about like letting the kids [TS]

01:27:26   be kids [TS]

01:27:26   he's got the perspective that the [TS]

01:27:27   parents of all the other teams don't [TS]

01:27:29   have so he's got out he he cares and he [TS]

01:27:32   likes those kids that's his progression [TS]

01:27:34   the rest of his life is a shambles but [TS]

01:27:37   that is a progression for him and that's [TS]

01:27:39   a reasonable progression it's not you [TS]

01:27:41   know it and a modern movie would have [TS]

01:27:42   him completely turn around and do that [TS]

01:27:45   yet league of their own yeah he'd get a [TS]

01:27:46   new job by the end of the movie right [TS]

01:27:48   right i will say this for the bad news [TS]

01:27:50   bears though it was it was more a movie [TS]

01:27:52   about baseball than pride of the Yankees [TS]

01:27:55   is that we want to thank you later so [TS]

01:27:56   hostile is more movie about baseball [TS]

01:28:00   is that this is a movie about bad [TS]

01:28:02   baseball players for the most part so [TS]

01:28:04   you just have the kids actually do their [TS]

01:28:05   thing I thought that was good to the the [TS]

01:28:08   portrayal of the than playing baseball [TS]

01:28:10   was was I thought fairly accurate and as [TS]

01:28:12   i said in the series of tweets to fill [TS]

01:28:14   while I was watching it [TS]

01:28:15   they had defensive shifts and the kids [TS]

01:28:17   studying the the the scoresheet and [TS]

01:28:20   talking about the stats so that they [TS]

01:28:21   totally totally Moneyball movie too i [TS]

01:28:23   love the defensive shift where they're [TS]

01:28:25   like the kid gets up there always hits [TS]

01:28:26   to left field and and Buttermaker just [TS]

01:28:28   like go go over there and there's like [TS]

01:28:30   five kids in the field that was great [TS]

01:28:32   that was really funny you know weirdly [TS]

01:28:34   enough considering how I feel about [TS]

01:28:36   baseball [TS]

01:28:37   the baseball scenes were actually my [TS]

01:28:38   favorite part of this movie if they [TS]

01:28:39   would have trimmed out all the [TS]

01:28:40   relationship stuff in just one more [TS]

01:28:42   baseball i think i would have liked it [TS]

01:28:43   you see you've guessed encapsulated my [TS]

01:28:46   feelings about grow older term which I [TS]

01:28:49   love the baseball scene in that movie [TS]

01:28:50   and I hate everything [TS]

01:28:53   oh my goodness but that's not a movie we [TS]

01:28:56   saw [TS]

01:28:56   now that's that is not the movies I know [TS]

01:28:58   asleep during both of our moms later but [TS]

01:29:00   I yeah but member jmo goofy i really [TS]

01:29:04   like that nobody makes fun of him for [TS]

01:29:05   knowing everything about baseball [TS]

01:29:07   no use for them yeah knowing these [TS]

01:29:09   things and he's basically the assistant [TS]

01:29:11   manager one of my favorite shots of the [TS]

01:29:13   movie is when amanda has has thrown her [TS]

01:29:16   curveball a whole feature insta-buck [TS]

01:29:19   maker does this very elaborate handshake [TS]

01:29:22   like good job boss he was my favorite by [TS]

01:29:28   fire oh yeah oh he is the best bear that [TS]

01:29:31   turned to Stephen I was like I like that [TS]

01:29:33   guy is the greatest I mean I i watch [TS]

01:29:35   when i was little i saw the sequel's [TS]

01:29:37   which don't want terrible kind and [TS]

01:29:40   patient there are not even here there is [TS]

01:29:42   a 3-bedroom no Matthew no sale man I [TS]

01:29:47   even watched the TV show version which [TS]

01:29:50   is also yeah it's ok it's passable at [TS]

01:29:52   the same time and Ogilvy is the best [TS]

01:29:54   part of that two totally different actor [TS]

01:29:56   but Tanner Tanner gets my bad i love [TS]

01:29:59   Tanner every line is hilarious just like [TS]

01:30:02   the way overly is introduced as he's the [TS]

01:30:05   kind of kid who knows everything [TS]

01:30:08   who knows a baseball player knows that [TS]

01:30:11   Hank Aaron played second base no one [TS]

01:30:13   knows [TS]

01:30:13   thank you to the listening audience in [TS]

01:30:17   case you're young before we had [TS]

01:30:19   baseball-reference nerds had to memorize [TS]

01:30:21   a giant hardbound book the baseball is [TS]

01:30:24   always liked it yeah yeah speaking of [TS]

01:30:26   which baseball nerds that are nerdier [TS]

01:30:28   about baseball than me the story that [TS]

01:30:30   that Buttermaker tells up in the tree to [TS]

01:30:32   a mod about Hank Aaron having I guess a [TS]

01:30:34   rough season or some point he was [TS]

01:30:36   nine-years-old total bullcrap [TS]

01:30:40   I sort of assumed that was a fake story [TS]

01:30:42   because that's kind of a moment where [TS]

01:30:43   Buttermaker starts to turn around and [TS]

01:30:46   realize that he's easy i have some [TS]

01:30:48   redeeming qualities left to give [TS]

01:30:50   yeah so it's a wonderful moment in the [TS]

01:30:53   movie but it's it's it's Buttermaker [TS]

01:30:55   locking through it's actually better [TS]

01:30:58   that it is [TS]

01:30:58   yes Father look it up there and there is [TS]

01:31:01   a school of thought that says the bad [TS]

01:31:02   news bears in breaking training which is [TS]

01:31:05   the second movie is a passable [TS]

01:31:08   entertainment [TS]

01:31:09   no I don't know but I i disagree with [TS]

01:31:12   that I do like they play game in the [TS]

01:31:14   astrodome which is a lovely and there's [TS]

01:31:17   the moment where all the fans chant let [TS]

01:31:19   them play and then pulling and Tanner [TS]

01:31:22   Boyle has this moment in the in the Sun [TS]

01:31:24   if you like the Tanner Boyle character [TS]

01:31:26   had no the the day certainly do not [TS]

01:31:30   watch the bad news bears go to Japan [TS]

01:31:32   when your mark Easter's are Tony Curtis [TS]

01:31:35   from me just children we just slide and [TS]

01:31:39   yep [TS]

01:31:39   yeah Wow and they go to join after the [TS]

01:31:43   title spoilers [TS]

01:31:44   it's in the night yeah we already called [TS]

01:31:47   out Vic Morrow for being so superb at [TS]

01:31:49   being awful in this [TS]

01:31:51   yeah I think I think joyce Van Patten [TS]

01:31:52   deserves almost much credit yeah he's [TS]

01:31:54   terrible has happened baby what is your [TS]

01:31:56   problem really awful choose related to [TS]

01:32:00   mama Gehrig and I think probably the [TS]

01:32:02   best seed is where she comes out and [TS]

01:32:03   presents that pitiful second-place [TS]

01:32:05   treasure [TS]

01:32:06   smarmy grin on her face I would like to [TS]

01:32:09   briefly make a couple quick points1 [TS]

01:32:11   Engelberg is not that fat [TS]

01:32:13   these days hmm ya see mi 617 all three [TS]

01:32:20   boobies wild and offer a character whose [TS]

01:32:23   only character trait is fat and always [TS]

01:32:25   eating i want circus great fat he's also [TS]

01:32:27   foul mouth that doesn't really stick out [TS]

01:32:30   much [TS]

01:32:31   ok mommy i'll give you he's no fat boy [TS]

01:32:34   from greatest show on her i laughed out [TS]

01:32:37   loud at the scene where they jump over [TS]

01:32:38   the fence and he he just bites into the [TS]

01:32:41   the candy and I think to myself [TS]

01:32:43   do you just eat that with the Rambler [TS]

01:32:45   member and then they'll be the great [TS]

01:32:47   local PD says could you at least take [TS]

01:32:50   off the record I kind of like the fact [TS]

01:32:53   that on this team of rejects the reject [TS]

01:32:55   who's that way because he's a geek is [TS]

01:32:56   probably the least reject full of all [TS]

01:32:58   hungry yeah and when they go to the [TS]

01:33:00   ballet class he's eating an entire [TS]

01:33:01   bucket of fried chicken himself but he's [TS]

01:33:04   nice enough to offer it to one of the [TS]

01:33:06   random ladies want to be yeah and that [TS]

01:33:08   is my favorite Tanner Boyle moment [TS]

01:33:10   you've talked about where the late Bell [TS]

01:33:12   teacher says I'm trying to teach a class [TS]

01:33:14   here you're not doing a very good job of [TS]

01:33:16   it no one here can dance for bettors [TS]

01:33:18   yeah yeah yeah yeahs that dance classes [TS]

01:33:21   really not very good that it is bad and [TS]

01:33:23   no deal is not particularly good idea no [TS]

01:33:25   she's not she really should work on a [TS]

01:33:27   curveball I also want to highlight how [TS]

01:33:30   wonderful that Joey's revenge scene is [TS]

01:33:32   where after he's been slapped to the [TS]

01:33:34   mound his responses that it's one [TS]

01:33:37   straight back to him and he just brings [TS]

01:33:38   up all the cum batter thrown into his [TS]

01:33:41   mitt yeah it's a mystery it's attacked [TS]

01:33:43   with a brick wall out yeah yeah that [TS]

01:33:46   that is a great moment [TS]

01:33:47   Engelbert gets the inside the park [TS]

01:33:49   homerun he still is still terrible is [TS]

01:33:52   still the worst bear but I think that's [TS]

01:33:54   gonna be scored as defensive [TS]

01:33:55   indifference [TS]

01:33:56   yeah maybe fielder's choice something I [TS]

01:33:59   was for the first time watching this [TS]

01:34:01   time was that in the end credits there's [TS]

01:34:03   a section where they list the bears and [TS]

01:34:05   there's actually a part that says the [TS]

01:34:06   bears at the top and they have all the [TS]

01:34:08   kids that they're on the team and butter [TS]

01:34:10   maker and Joey Turner actually is [TS]

01:34:12   included in that grouping he's [TS]

01:34:13   considered a member of the Bears [TS]

01:34:15   presumably because of his turnaround are [TS]

01:34:17   you [TS]

01:34:17   also a little a little thing that i love [TS]

01:34:20   is that on the scoreboard this league [TS]

01:34:22   has got nice printed signs for the names [TS]

01:34:24   of all the TN the six core teams and in [TS]

01:34:26   the scoreboard those those teams are [TS]

01:34:28   always with their names on the signs and [TS]

01:34:30   then handwritten in a scroll is better [TS]

01:34:33   because they don't merit a sign [TS]

01:34:35   throughout the season nobody ever said [TS]

01:34:37   they might be back next week should we [TS]

01:34:39   know [TS]

01:34:40   nope no they're not even back in the [TS]

01:34:43   final game people were leaving the [TS]

01:34:45   stands during the last better [TS]

01:34:47   yeah 20 lb traffic or so these are the [TS]

01:34:50   better and help you gotta get to the [TS]

01:34:52   dennys for the celebratory to enter [TS]

01:34:54   their parents of the indigent in this [TS]

01:34:57   they're all going to come out and drive [TS]

01:35:00   everybody home you can stay for one more [TS]

01:35:03   batter guys they're going to warm up the [TS]

01:35:05   AC is hot out there to la la land was [TS]

01:35:08   ours [TS]

01:35:08   ya know northern san fernando valley is [TS]

01:35:10   quite awful out there really no humanity [TS]

01:35:13   lives in San Fernando Valley [TS]

01:35:15   I love that last scene where the camera [TS]

01:35:17   pulls back and and what we see is on one [TS]

01:35:20   side we see the Bears all happy and [TS]

01:35:22   celebrating and pouring beer on each [TS]

01:35:24   other because they lost and on the other [TS]

01:35:26   side you see the Yankees sort of quietly [TS]

01:35:27   walking away with their gigantic trophy [TS]

01:35:29   it's such a nice contrast yeah yeah i [TS]

01:35:33   also just like that the White Sox are [TS]

01:35:35   another team with problems like it's not [TS]

01:35:38   that the bad news bears are awful [TS]

01:35:40   everybody else is perfect the way tax [TS]

01:35:42   couldn't even put together nine kids [TS]

01:35:43   right someone had to go to a face some [TS]

01:35:46   of them some of them had the flu some of [TS]

01:35:48   them where the faith vent money you got [TS]

01:35:51   a bit dodgy athletics the Athletics you [TS]

01:35:54   know they're the worst team in the [TS]

01:35:55   league [TS]

01:35:55   well second word sends us i love letter [TS]

01:35:58   yeah the source the source of this the [TS]

01:36:01   name of this movie is it's really kind [TS]

01:36:03   of sweep we're playing the Athletics [TS]

01:36:05   what does that mean bad news for the [TS]

01:36:07   Athletics that was really sweet I like [TS]

01:36:09   one of things i enjoy again as a as a [TS]

01:36:12   really awful baseball Kiku should not be [TS]

01:36:17   having conversations with civilized [TS]

01:36:19   human beings is it like really [TS]

01:36:22   determining why they picked the team [TS]

01:36:24   that got us the bigger pic pick the team [TS]

01:36:28   names that they did because the [TS]

01:36:29   Athletics are picked because [TS]

01:36:31   in 1976 hey they recently won three [TS]

01:36:33   World Series in a row and the White Sox [TS]

01:36:36   and the matsuri are all teams and yeah [TS]

01:36:39   and the Yankees of course of the Yankees [TS]

01:36:42   so why not [TS]

01:36:43   but but it just it's one of those things [TS]

01:36:47   i find fascinating just like deciding he [TS]

01:36:51   should really like Reggie Jackson as [TS]

01:36:52   opposed to and Karen and erin was in the [TS]

01:36:54   last year of his career in 97 may have a [TS]

01:36:56   problem [TS]

01:36:57   this yeah i understand that if you want [TS]

01:36:59   to set up a team to be the bad guys just [TS]

01:37:01   call him the yanks call me out there and [TS]

01:37:02   it's easy to what i like is that they're [TS]

01:37:04   all models on major league baseball [TS]

01:37:05   teams and then the Bears are not even [TS]

01:37:07   like know they're just there and there's [TS]

01:37:09   team within the stupid hat with the bear [TS]

01:37:11   on it and it's just it's like yeah I [TS]

01:37:13   love that team photo that's used both in [TS]

01:37:16   the in the credits and and earlier in [TS]

01:37:18   the movie where we're butter makers hold [TS]

01:37:20   his beer and ankle Bert can't be [TS]

01:37:23   bothered to but not sure I can't button [TS]

01:37:27   his shirt he's physically own column and [TS]

01:37:29   separate now exactly such an awful team [TS]

01:37:32   and yet endearing remains my scrappy [TS]

01:37:35   they are like a whole team of David [TS]

01:37:37   Eckstein oh except for heli codes [TS]

01:37:40   claimed he was hitting 841 if I would [TS]

01:37:44   walk him to it now absolutely but he's [TS]

01:37:47   telling that to the to like 40 year old [TS]

01:37:49   woman have dance class [TS]

01:37:50   yeah he's trying to impress just like in [TS]

01:37:52   pride of the Yankees if you're somebody [TS]

01:37:55   tries to intentionally walk you you [TS]

01:37:56   reach for that ball [TS]

01:37:58   that's right yeah intentional walks are [TS]

01:38:00   for suckers good movie [TS]

01:38:02   yeah yeah that's fine it's really yeah i [TS]

01:38:04   loved it actually yeah it's it's a [TS]

01:38:07   really good one [TS]

01:38:08   this has been an excellent addition of [TS]

01:38:10   the old movie club i believe and a [TS]

01:38:12   fitting for the beginning of the [TS]

01:38:14   baseball season it's been a grand slam [TS]

01:38:16   oh wow breakfast brought to you by [TS]

01:38:19   nearby when you think of Jenny's think [TS]

01:38:25   of a repulsive [TS]

01:38:27   she just like I do it [TS]

01:38:30   yeah moons over my hammy thinking [TS]

01:38:33   getting your kids slapped in front of [TS]

01:38:35   everyone [TS]

01:38:36   Danny's for child apiece so many nice [TS]

01:38:39   little details in this movie I like the [TS]

01:38:40   Chico's Bail Bonds has a logo of the [TS]

01:38:42   liberty bell with the crack in it and [TS]

01:38:44   let freedom reign the motto is a good [TS]

01:38:46   memory [TS]

01:38:49   alright time to wrap up this edition of [TS]

01:38:53   the old movie club Steve let's thanks [TS]

01:38:56   for being here [TS]

01:38:57   Jason tonight I consider myself the [TS]

01:38:59   luckiest panelist on the face of this [TS]

01:39:00   earth [TS]

01:39:01   well put David Laura thank you babe all [TS]

01:39:05   ok that's what I'm going off into the [TS]

01:39:09   shadows [TS]

01:39:10   yeah that's what we slice it into the [TS]

01:39:11   air and very poignant I said weeping but [TS]

01:39:13   what you couldn't see because this is a [TS]

01:39:15   podcast is him walking up a job as [TS]

01:39:18   alright it's exactly what you saw and [TS]

01:39:20   there he goes into the tunnel mighty [TS]

01:39:22   Ashley thank you i'm going to restrict [TS]

01:39:23   my bad news bears group to just saying [TS]

01:39:25   crud as all the other one thing i would [TS]

01:39:28   probably get out would be good by you [TS]

01:39:33   booger-eating moron done that and you [TS]

01:39:38   didn't ya [TS]

01:39:39   Erica and sign thank you for being here [TS]

01:39:40   and watching movies from the forties in [TS]

01:39:42   another movie that was gross and the [TS]

01:39:44   other movie yeah I'm just gonna go back [TS]

01:39:46   and do some scrapbooking in the jigsaw [TS]

01:39:48   puzzle at this kind i think very nice [TS]

01:39:50   it's going to be a scrap book that tells [TS]

01:39:52   the story of Lou Gehrig's career that [TS]

01:39:53   every awesome IRA compressing fresh [TS]

01:39:56   flowers into your scrapbook by the way [TS]

01:39:58   oh yeah maybe you can make a scrapbook [TS]

01:40:00   about this podcast got a page about the [TS]

01:40:02   time we talked about Gary again [TS]

01:40:04   no but she does that then all of a [TS]

01:40:06   sudden by the time she gets to the end [TS]

01:40:07   of the year 2030 oh my god [TS]

01:40:10   sure and one of us will die a horrible [TS]

01:40:11   that's how time passes and movies is [TS]

01:40:13   scrapbooks you kidding [TS]

01:40:15   scrapbooks are the silent killer you [TS]

01:40:17   think they really don't buy a calendar [TS]

01:40:19   with a page a day that's cool yeah [TS]

01:40:21   that's really well don't don't put it [TS]

01:40:23   near fan where they might blow pages off [TS]

01:40:26   oh yeah and Phil Michaels thank you for [TS]

01:40:29   the selections these were excellent [TS]

01:40:30   we'll have to come back maybe next year [TS]

01:40:32   next season and do a a [TS]

01:40:35   podcast about all the other many [TS]

01:40:37   baseball movies that are out there but [TS]

01:40:38   these were to excellence elections and I [TS]

01:40:40   i enjoyed them both and i absolutely [TS]

01:40:43   love the bad news bears so thank you for [TS]

01:40:45   choosing them [TS]

01:40:46   Jason I don't care if I ever come back [TS]

01:40:48   foot and everybody out there happy [TS]

01:40:53   baseball season thanks for listening to [TS]

01:40:54   be uncomfortable we hope you enjoyed [TS]

01:40:56   listening to old movie club will be back [TS]

01:40:58   again with another one at some point if [TS]

01:41:00   we don't die of old age between now and [TS]

01:41:02   then [TS]

01:41:02   thanks for listening goodbye [TS]

01:41:21   the crack of the bat the roar of the [TS]

01:41:29   crowd that's right baseball's back hello [TS]

01:41:31   New York I'm bill McNeal join us opening [TS]

01:41:33   day live from Yankee Stadium for all the [TS]

01:41:34   action [TS]

01:41:35   the boys of summer in wnyx a winning [TS]

01:41:38   team [TS]