00:00:00 ◼ ► saving your pennies for a $10,000 Apple which I am going bottom line is used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► refurbished please call them refurbished if I could get one refurbished it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► probably would buy my philosophy is that particularly with the with the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/16">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► ones just to be price conscious because you know I i'm not you know I am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/21">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► completely sold on the benefits of it yet and and and i think that the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/30">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► the ramp up its gonna get this steeper in the beginning I'm fascinated by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/36">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► because I think it's so much fun it's a it's it's a very fun time to be in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/44">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► racket of talking about Apple in writing about Apple is nobody has any idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/49">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► the hell is going on and I love it I really do love that we're all just lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/53">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► an arm I'm not pretending that I'm not lost I'm completely lost I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/58">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► why you note in your your lost because why because well because I sure of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/62">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► it does exactly I'm don't comply in terms of price rule aside like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/69">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► just assume I'm just getting the aluminum base model because I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► skeptic and you know I feel like if I love it maybe I'll get a more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/78">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► one next year whatever I still have no idea why would want to where I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/83">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► don't do you know where to watch for time you were watching yes yes I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/87">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► went in for a watch forever and the battery died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► online at like right before Christmas and I was like well that's great I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► gonna spend 15 bucks on a battery of my way so I have now been wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/101">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► so and so does it drive you nuts how quickly did you guys still rather I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/109">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► like to just look at my hand for the time i've i've wanna watch since I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► 15 14 15 sometime in the middle of a pocket watch my grandfather did my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/120">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► grandmother had given me a pocket watch so I carousel for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► embarrassing facts about me they're very cool though I don't know you're not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/133">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► way I did it I think he had a piece a couple years ago about how the end I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/142">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► totally understand all the people out there I'm sure that probably seventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/151">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► percent of the people listening right now are all still thinking the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► thing which is i dont wanna watch because my phones with me all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► and I can take it out and get the time from the sound which is why I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/161">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► valid it's just in maybe if I was a kid today that would ever do that I'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/166">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► advise that I have the habit I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► you know twenty 20 some years of wearing watch every day I mean hard habit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/173">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► break a piece I think I think it was quite a couple years ago where you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► you know pointed out that using your smartphone as your watches pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► the exact same mechanism as you know our grandfathers with their partner much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/186">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► it's in your pocket you take it out and got the time and put it back and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/191">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► you know it works I just feel like it's a distraction with my kid around like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/198">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► the minute I get my phone out it becomes like I got over lets you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/206">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► what's what games does dad have and what can I can i play with its phone and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/215">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► it seems like a watch is not sure like a smart watches gonna be much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► a whole different series abstractions yeah I i dont know it's I never was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/226">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► impressed with the notifications using the pebble but you know maybe the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/234">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► that you can interact with them here will make a difference I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► you could do in a pinch you can dictate you know a reply using Syria I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/242">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► unsure anyway the two so there's two reasons that I feel like I'm totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► lost I still don't quite get what it is that I would like about this and number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/251">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► two is this whole edition model I I totally think it's gonna cost thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/256">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► dollars I totally don't understand how they'll sell thing for thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/261">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► dollars that presumably is going to be you know outdated and three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/266">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► technically I don't get it I got told him to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/272">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► and your your view of the price points remind me of you the price points so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/280">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► know the winner of the aluminum 13 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/284">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► the stainless one is gonna be thousand is that right I yeah that's my ballpark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/289">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► and I've been thinking about it I think but I think it could be something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► like that it averages 2000 because like let's see if you get the stainless with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/299">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► a with something other than the metallic band maybe at like seven hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/306">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► or six 649 650 bucks for the stainless to start but if you get the one with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/311">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► metal band or that mesh metal band maybe it's like $1100 and I know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/318">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► a lot of people who know nothing about why 20 why in the world with a metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► band make it cost $500 but if you look at the way watches a price that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► actually pretty typical like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► metal bands on a premium watch are crazy expensive yeah I don't say some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/334">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► I've talked to seemed to think that the stimulus 100 bucks but I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/340">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► either that doesn't seem like that's the only thing that works if you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/346">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► to upsell and I don't think at this point they will be yeah I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/350">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► they you know they and it brings up another point with something that almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► I haven't seen anybody talk about is are there going to be storage tiers is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► gonna be like an 8 16 32 gigabyte split I I don't think so unless it corresponds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/363">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► to the materials like F Sport is 8 gigabytes and stainless is 16 an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/372">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► additional 32 but I don't I can't see how they would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/379">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► aluminum at 8 16 32 and keep adding 50 bucks a hundred bucks or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/385">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► that seems to compete at that point it seems to be way too confusing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/390">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► you've got all these you know seems like all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► choice after makers about what colors you want what bands you want and then if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/397">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► you multiply that by two or three with storage tiers it's you know it's a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/401">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► to start with the absurd basically almost like shells for things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/406">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► the address add anyway yeah the only thing that i could think you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/413">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► storage for right now the third party i mean but they said though they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► already announced that there will be a full quote full SDK later in the year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/420">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► there will be some spaces you'll need wraps but it's so so even know ralph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/425">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► right off the start with the initial STK they're kind of 10 then perhaps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/430">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► just communicate over the air to your iPhone apps let's presume that later in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/436">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► the year means that you know obviously this year so you gonna need to put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► something it has the Photos app but I would guess right that it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/445">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► there you know if it's only one and a half inches big they can shrink the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/451">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► photos before they sing come over to your right I don't I don't see much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► point yeah I don't think that you're gonna need a lot of storage for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/460">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► photos and what else is there I guess you heard right right so it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/464">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► you know I don't think you need a lot of storage still be nicer if it was 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► instead of eight but but nobody is really talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/480">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► yeah I lived with us for gigabyte iPhone four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/486">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► Yeah Yeah right now it's movies video and all the mega replayed I can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/502">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► the other things that I wonder about is if there's a I'm gloves leaning towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/513">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► getting a smaller one cause I don't have a very big breasts and a traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/517">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► mens watches you can often get a smaller size I don't buy ladies watches but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/521">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► can get a men's watching smaller size and I was also is leaning towards a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► smaller one but the only thing that makes me wonder is is that there's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► be a big difference in battery life between the two gas and buy whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► there'll be a price difference to me I price it should be there would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► but it's possible I don't know and I guess in the edition model there almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/542">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► certainly would be because even though you're not really paying for the gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/548">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► you know like the the golden just a fraction of the price I think it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/553">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► I feel like you're in the premium materials you can have two sides you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► know you have to pay by the price right and the other thing is that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/562">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► always just the smart watches still are huge by large metal ones that are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/567">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► right now and as the ones where ones are very large and the large one is not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/573">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► much smaller than most of those were the small one is fairly significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► smaller than those yeah i buy had a Motorola 360 on my wrist was way too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/585">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► yeah it's definitely pretty big I although you have to it you know I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► first one I saw in real life was I ran into Andy and not go at the airport on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/598">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► the way out to the iPhone Apple watch event actually he he was flying through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/606">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► Philly he'd like boston affiliate we're on the same flight and it was like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/613">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► is weird that looked just like candy like Joey you know he's serious size man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/619">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► it looked OK on his rest only looked OK on his wrist it it looked funny yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/629">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► doesn't know it's pretty big not much looks good but that definitely did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/635">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► look and it's not a huge it's not goofy it's just it big though it was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/640">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► well it's funny because you know that a millimeter is very small right at end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/647">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► a centimeters you know one millimeters pretty you know give or take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/654">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► and so you see all these watches are always size no meters and it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► you see that this one's 39 and this 142 and you think well that's probably about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/662">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► the same size but like that that's not true I got 39 is sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► traditional men's wrist right size by today's standards a little small and 42 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/669">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► is actually kind of a big watch the really big ones like people are selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/674">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► like 46 millimeter watching yeah I think part of the problem that Motorola 360 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/678">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► the dozen the edges are graduated so it just sits right on top of your list all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/685">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► now so it's not so much that's not necessarily the diameter that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/694">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► seemed totally and I know that it looking at them on the web it's it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► can tell that it's a much smaller than competing smart watches but once I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/710">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► the real world and people can compare them side-by-side I think the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► is pretty striking and who knows what that means for battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► clearly it has some kind of you know some kind of hit on battery life because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► you know figures bigger bigger watch has a bigger battery and famously everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/725">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► is saying everybody knows anything about the you know the rumors of the watch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► know everybody saying the same thing that you know battery life is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► concern and they were obviously very cagey about it and what they've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/737">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► publicly what do you think that the that then getting all these people from tuzla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/742">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► is related to just battery in general or or I don't know enough saving up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/748">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► your up I don't know I don't know enough about battery technology even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/755">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► should because in 6th grade science fair project was about batteries since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/765">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► though I have to take it up you should go back and have fallen way behind my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/772">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► understand like I have no idea whether somebody who is an expert in this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/778">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► of big battery that you would need to move acid a hand rail for 300 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/785">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► would have any kind of expertise that would be applicable to the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/790">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► battery you want and seven millimeter thick phone it strikes me as odd jobs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/796">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► thing to do to hire somebody who makes the trunk battery and telling ok I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/802">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► put that in a watch I would I'm thinking probably is probably you know somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/808">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► is an expert on one can can quickly get up to speed on the other it might be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/814">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► is likely is anything you know who knows I think that there's such a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/820">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► boom are are you know it's it's a seller's market in Silicon Valley if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/827">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► you're a talented engineers of any sort it seems you know so I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/836">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► who knows it may not even be that specific you may just be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► there's a bunch of smart guys it s let's just try to steal we need we need more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► short people but did you know I guess that you know that's the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/848">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► that broke loose since last I had a technical talk shows that the journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/854">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► against the wall street journal is it is more I said flatly that Apple has won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► over a hundred people working on the car seems a lot of people for its you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/866">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► yeah I guess I have no idea it tastes like a car it makes even less sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/873">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► me than not that I would not that they wouldn't you know like I think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► basic gist of in broad as a writer room writing catches people's imagination in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/885">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► a broad sense it feels basically like it could be true because cars are market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/892">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► where a there's a lot of them so there's a lot of money to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► be it's a market where design matters and has always mattered everybody except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/902">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► that design matters and cars right there's not it's not like with computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/908">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► were people you know four years would say you know apple just waste money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/912">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► you know some people would say that would you know will spend three days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/920">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► picking out their new car because they you know care about it so design matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► and three it feels like it's you know technology is about to revolutionize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/928">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► industry you know people are talking clearly there's the switch in energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/935">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► from gas to electric and there's the whole self-driving angle as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/939">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► just the interface interface is that you interact with inside the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► yes yes exactly are already involved in right right and that you know it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/952">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► goes hand-in-hand where the cars are getting more computerized inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/958">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► I mean it's they've been computerized for a while in terms of things like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/964">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► the antilock brakes kick in and and stuff and I mean like the user and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► know what you deal with you know have you shop worker recently no I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/974">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► shopped for car since December 2006 so the last time I shop for a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/978">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► the iPhone wasn't yeah it's creamy and some of that stuff is crazy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/983">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► and I was coming from so I bought a new car in December and I was going from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/990">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► 95 Integra snow so I was not prepared for that level of screen in your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/996">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► inside cars today and and I had an idea of the kind of cars that I had picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► out certain cars to look at and my first reaction was just like oh my god our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► system there's to not only is there one big screen there's two screens in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► car and to do anything you know you have to to be tapping a touch interface in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► order to like increase the airflow in the car and that kind of thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► was just like I don't and was not ready for that coming from an old car and be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► just don't think I'll be in Cbus be I feel like driving a rather have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► touch some tactical elements and see the interfaces that they make these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► are so bad I didn't want you know I wanted to have as little commitment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► interfaces possible so I ended up getting a car that had the spring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► the smaller screen that I could get but he basically a certain classic are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► have to get that kind of screen with a crappy interface jammed into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► yeah I'm worried about that about getting a new car because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► now it's no we got ours in 2006 we had the option to upgrade to a navigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► system and I turned it down because I thought it looked so terrible you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► wasn't that said you know it was like seven hundred extra bucks or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► that I turned it down not because I don't think the navigation would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► useful but just because I thought that this without the navigation they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► put like and you know like an old-school radio thing that takes up the space the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► screen isn't still there so everything on nothing in our car has a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► everything is dialed it twisted I like it and then my wife complain complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► for a couple of years because every once in a while we go somewhere where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► needed directions and you know we didn't have navigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► and then once the piano and then that wore off you know I forget what point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► the phone became a decent navigation system primarily 2010 write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► so do you know I think in the long run it worked out is a good decision but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► don't know what I'm going to do next but it is true because it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► lifelong Apple users like we expect our computers interfaces to be Apple quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► and you know even at their worst like pick the worst areas you know like Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► OS 10 10.0 or something it still was better than you know it wasn't ugly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► it wasn't confusing you know right and I i mean I had my car for twenty years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► that previous car for twenty years a drug that thing and I wanted to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► possibly have the option to dread this almost as long as and the ideas sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► with some of those systems that I feel like they're gonna be obsolete and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► pat doesn't seem like a good way to win that game doesn't just take a break and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► I will thank our first sponsor and its a new sponsor named automatic heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► these guys speaking of course I have heard of automatic yes it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► segue automatic is a small connected car adapter that plugs into your car's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► diagnostic port now every car as well as a modern car actually rose garden every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► car since 1996 has one of these parts as good thing to get rid of that piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► crap actually I don't wasn't to be as I love the old photos 1 year too young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► anyway your new car has on every car has it it's it's a diagnostic port and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► you take your car in for service that's what your mechanic plugs you know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► diagnostic stuff in and has all sorts of information where you saw this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► america's little dingus you plug in and you keep it there and then you pair to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► your phone and it connects your cart to the internet so what does it do you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► use it with their free mobile app right you just pay for the dangerous and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► you get a free app and if something like your check engine light comes on right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► just a light that just means something is wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► take this to an expert well if you've got automatic you could just fire up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► app and it'll tell you in plain English exactly why the Czech English check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► you know maybe it's something serious maybe it's something silly and if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► something silly you can use the app to clear the light if it's a small problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► right there from your phone you to say stop bugging me about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► log your trips and parking location so you never lose your car that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► awesome see you go to the airport you park in a parking garage or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► like that you have to like take a photo or write down what would your spot was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► automatically even with gas prices low as low as they are right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► your driving habits can be costing you hundreds of dollars per year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► automatic scores you're driving a coach's you to drive more effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► efficiently and save their fans of the show they remember back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► Merlin brought this up last week on the show back in the day when I had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► driver license taken away for driving ninety 90 miles an hour on the freeway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► and our friends around access if I had automatic it would have warned me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► was driving too fast and I wouldn't have lost my license now there to fall to 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► miles per hour they give you a little tingle or something like that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► hit 70 but you can customize the speed so I thought I would turn out up to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► well it's like I told them back in the day I don't drive much but when I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► drive I like to drive a fuckin fast automatic can give you a warning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► trash detection if you get this is a god forbid you get a terrible car accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► automatic can detect that and automatically call for help for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► human leaving stay on the line with you until help arrives just call them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► and stuff crazy stuff they've got integration with nest so if you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► nest at your house you can get a set up so that when your car gets close early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► thermostat goes up or down or whatever you want you can connect it to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► like to get into it all here you can connect to Twitter to Google Docs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► connected home devices like those Philips hue lights all sorts of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► stuff it's amazing I think they used if this then that to to do that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► if this ifttt tv.com / automatic and find out more about the cool automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► and you can do is we do so what's the cost is probably cost like $10,000 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► Gold Edition nope 9995 100 bucks well then they're gonna soak in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► wrong there are no subscription fees what you just buy the thing for 9995 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► hundred bucks stick it in your cars diagnostic port get the free app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► you're done that and let me tell you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► that's the sucker price listeners of this show you get 20% off so you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► the thing for 80 bucks go to automatic dot com slash talk-show automatic they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► just spell it the regular way no funny spellings for you Steve Jobs rent out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► their automatic dot com slash talk show by the thing for 80 bucks 20% off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► just stick it in your car and and sort of 80 bucks I can't believe that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► wanna see you know they tend to marketing there's always or there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► always those that that that branch of marketing that and it's all over the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► these days you know like this this once silly trick will make your mustache grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► thicker you know you know that but it does seem to me like this diagnostic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► I didn't know anything about this seems like this diagnostic port on every car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► is like a serious like they don't want you to know secret yeah right like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► get all that information on your own but they want you to come into the dealer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► for $600 for a because if your car in or if it if the car knows why the check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► engine light came on they could easily especially if we rent ties right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► what we're saying where modern cars all have real strains so they could put any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► know why this stance ayudar a sucker if you don't have it you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► 80 bucks you know that your car dealer car dealer gave you this is an option it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► would be like eight hundred dollars $100 have a smart car 80 bucks this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► most amazing thing I don't know what do you think I mean it seems to me like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► of those things like maybe you know maybe they've been working a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► things and maybe that's why things are kind of going yeah that's sort of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► see what we think I mean it's also just possible that the car that the driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► around this just follows like Apple AirPlay stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► movie great if it was like just Bob Mansfield group and just like to blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► off some steam there they like just bought it all around they bought an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► Chrysler minivan but they put it on the company's dime said that if anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► looked up the license plate it would say it was registered Apple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► incorporated right so it's a paid for out of petty cash like a Chrysler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► minivans and then they just went to Home Depot and just bought like a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► of PVC piping and made me get some crazy and then just let the rumors let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► rivers stop start against nothing it's just like some is used for some intern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► going out to pick up sandwiches luncheon this car driver go go go go boy the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1605">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► let's take a shit that i would do that see that's why I like Chris Breen I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► they're getting hired by Apple all I would want to do is waste money on shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► like that will never be a great job at Apple that actually would be so you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► I could do this we would just start a team that would be like meant to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► fill up the rumor blogs with deception yeah oh yeah oh my god we've had spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► my wheelhouse my God we're just pick projects that pic projects that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► plausible enough that you can get 9 to 5 Mac and and Mac rumors and insider to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► run with them but that are goofy enough that we will never stop black man yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1670">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► have to say that the fact that the supposed in car that's been caught on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► road is a Chrysler minivan that might be going on right now there is laughing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► themselves because it just seems like something like like you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► started by saying well we'll do it in a previous life doesn't appreciate my to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► fight the default car you'd start with the United already electric its yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► know it they're they're all over the place in California and then as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► will have the idea now let's make it a min [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► that's the day I found the fireball said that with the Wall Street Journal report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► that their it got a hundred people working on a car that they said that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► looks like a mini van I heard that very hard to believe like I don't find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► hard to believe that they might have some kind of super early prototype that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► looks like a minivan but that's how they said they're saying that they're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► on a car that looks like you know you know like they always say like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► story is public knowledge we can we can get to the whole Jony ive New York thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► but that's it came up there I think it came up in the jobs bill came up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► over the place where like the very early prototypes for what became multi-touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► was like like projected on a desk and they had like cameras no waves did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► look nothing like an iPad or phone it was big project on the wall it was as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► the centers were you know where miniaturize yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► yeah you know I could see that the car some kind of car that they intend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► ship in 10 years might look like that now because they need to fill up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► back with all kinds of crazy stuff that they'll worry about miniaturize in later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► but I can't believe that they're working on a car that would actually look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► as they would I mean they would work on that their car would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► whatever the most there's starter car would certainly be whatever the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► purchased cars and that's not you know and it seems like it would be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► horse in now and they couldn't bring themselves to make something that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► somebody Chrysler very sad right now be funny if it like brochure out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► company because it's just you know alright goodnight swatches and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► there's a polite but if you stop driving so deserve abortion tribal district [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► about taking my portion mind yeah and I am whatever else drives down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► Cayman Island yeah she gave cars Johnny Johnny obviously it's a few cars but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► Williams Dr Szoke an old gold Camry yeah I get a good for him I mean I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► great i get the real Jeff Williams is late like a two-thirds clone of Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► like those I get there is central you know me they used to say there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► profile of Tim Cook sometime in the last year to wear where he apparently drove a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► very old car for a very long time and remember that it was like when they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► you know what a mystery was given to the people who worked with you know a daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► but for those guys it's all about efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► yeah it just feels like an efficient creations operations in you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► everything around efficiently and if you get something that's working great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► now not me I would you know I would probably if I add you know apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► executive type money I would probably be more like Steve Jobs though where he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► 21 caught you know you know they put a lot of thought into it and he had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► turning the least several weeks or so that was that was supposedly how he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► away with the never having a license plate for more than like there's a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► like ninety days before the license plate and so like every three months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► somebody would have to drive is Sadies to the dealer and I'm sure they just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► one waiting like a box of tissues you know just pull another silver fell fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► with you no precise interior right out of the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► boom got it I couldn't see I could never see being a car collector because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► could see buying one really nice car and then I would drive it everywhere but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► would want to put all my effort into making that pick up front and picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► the one that I that I love if I had even to I don't have to make the decision on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► any given day which one to drive right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► like I like not having to make decisions like that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► like two big cameras I want that Canon it bigger and a little you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► little bit better and more flexible has multiple lenses and I got this Fuji x100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► us which is delightful and it's that retro you know sort of looks like an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► rangefinder beautiful camera a lot lighter really you know and unless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► know that i'm gonna walk around all day I know I want the later one but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► a lot of school events and stuff like I know which one to take and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► don't have my second camera now I'm sitting here you know ten minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► well i get i mean for those guys I guess it's just that's the fun of it so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► part of the fun is like manager on cars I guess I don't know maybe I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► choose to be mentally right I guess if they break down all the time because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► their authentic Italian sports cars you know also part of the fun right it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► be funny to guess the assumption is like looking like a polite so there's variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► but you know there's just one shape you know two sizes imagine like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► parking lot at Apple's new headquarters will look like like three years after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► the Apple car comes out when everybody I presume that does bacon some kind of app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► that tells you which which silver silver Apple car boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► look look forward to that problem yeah so the big problem one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► problems with cars and Tesla famously is running into it all over the country is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► that there's this bizarre well it seems bizarre in hindsight these bizarre route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► laws they're not even rules or laws about how cars are sold that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► there's this dealership model and I get the explanation that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► historically and doesn't make sense in the present day but the reason why all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► cars are sold through these independent dealers that's like the law and Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► doesn't want to get involved with that they want to sell directly and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► to go like state by state and get stuff you know make it legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► Indian the away jersey rate the new jersey it seems you know it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► some Sopranos type guys have some of the action in the car dealerships there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► sort of a kind of reselling it electric cars here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► the same guys who run the gas pumps we talked about that I feel like you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► have talked about this this is the craziest maybe so for those of you out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► there who don't know never been to New Jersey and New Jersey he is it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► gasoline is pumped by a professional there is no we're not the same when is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► it really so coasters are you doing there are no I'm talking about so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► think most people around the country when you point a gas station and it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► self-serve you're like well why you know course well guess what New Jersey has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► cell service not it is no option it's legally you have to have a gas pump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► attendant and as 34 years ago they got it as a state referendum and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► was great this is Greg's I go to New Jersey sometimes you know this is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► I'm trying to be able to pump gas no new jersey and voted overwhelmingly to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► the law on the books like Stockholm Syndrome like they're afraid to pump gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► they see it as some kind of luxury I mean the guy in the last time I pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► up to a gas pump new jersey which was out last summer the guy called me boss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► was pretty well that's actually in LA they already have to say that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► there's a you know you have choices they can call your boss they can call you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► chief chief remember who was boss or defects yeah and and they can call you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► ha the year to pay extra for what they could achieve think it's an extra five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► fill it up and go ahead and Haas that absolutely loss that was a slogan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2272">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► actually when I was a kid with the slogan in that it has gas stations hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► electric cars so I don't mean anything Apple doesn't this would have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► know go through the same rigmarole that test was going through her nose and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► think you said I think it's a maybe kindest sort of some days thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► they're just looking into it particularly if it looks like a Chrysler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► minivan totally not ready to go to the showroom for the self-driving thing I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► think it's coming I have no idea when that thing and it's obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► you know it's it's but it feels like something that could be like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► we're not gonna have to wait till we're old men like will will will get to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► yeah yeah maybe it's because it's you think back 10 years I think back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► think about the laptop I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► it's pretty standing I've been thinking about that a lot lately and I and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► it's always that ten years is a you know gives you a lot I openers and technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► probably does but somehow while we're still on the other side of the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► being ten years it really feels like right now like 2015 2016 it's the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► life was like 10 years ago is pretty pretty crazy yeah 2015 might be the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► 12 me as bitches and a boner just because there's no iPhone yet max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2385">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► still been iBooks yeah yeah this plastic was first plastic iBooks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► still being sold and the nicer plastic ones the ones that were available white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► and black MacBooks I believe right MacBooks and MacBook Pros yes those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► try and they were nicer I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► looking at their problem not funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► problem I can't wait to retire and the old folks home and we're all just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► all this extra closet Tiger Syracuse's got a bunch of stuff to I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► better I don't have any old desktop Macs like I don't have like an old I got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► g4 you know like a compact classics frame background and like that if I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► my wife and I would want to buy an SEC 30 SEC 30 is the makes my heart I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► that was that was my first thought was my first Mac and its basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► we have my body for $2000 1990 used and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► years later I still had a laugh lobbies and I told them she long time ago like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► that again so I bought another one but basically the same thing I got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► floppies somewhere I know I didn't throw them out I I cannot believe that any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► them would still work they said they were now that's a great yeah most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► them still most of my work a lot of indie film failed Brandon yeah maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► was just like the ones and zeros are just little pieces a dust stuck to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► static electricity early one megabyte or more reliable than zip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► I did remember that the that reminds me that the other thing and there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► couple of reports this week in the one was about the I think I wrote about i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► think is such bullshit this thing that Apple watch you know like at the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► minute they took out all the best possible like a fitness health device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► and then they'd the center's work so they yank them out and had to redefine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► what it was for it but it did say that I do know that it was so poorly sourced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► you know even those of the number even came from anybody knows what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► are talking about but that the Apple watch Gold Edition is expected to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► for four thousand or more which would make it the most expensive product they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► sell you know I've ever sold or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/2601">TS</a>]
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00:57:15 ◼ ► removed place where you spend $4,000 on a wide try on you know multiple straps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► but not all stores have that no one's in malls shopping malls don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► luxury of having like a second floor so maybe it could be that maybe the edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► model won't be sold in every Apple Store it might only be sold in certain ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► you might also be the case I don't I don't know if they would do it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► but maybe there maybe that's why they hired to stakeholder maybe they'll sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► them in jewelry stores are places that sell Rolexes and no me digas you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► etcetera I suppose it's possible that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► the abbot the whole idea because there are thousands of dollars in there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► they're they're removing them giving that hands-on experience to somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► else right but it almost gets you mean obviously they still do that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► their phones carrier stores etc but personal touch seems like something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3494">TS</a>]
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00:58:30 ◼ ► that they also also you know it's sort of like the way that I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► really wanting to buy your iPhone but they'll also sell it in the carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► stores in this element Walmart will sell them at Target the promise this basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► though isn't as most people work on commission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► or you mean you know no jewelry stores I would presume so yeah and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► that they're gonna wanna it seems like that's a whole nother difference a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► like i said i dont doing way of doing business that I would be surprised again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► I don't know I love me out i really wanna go either way I feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► could sell them only in select Apple stores I feel like they could sell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► you know what stores I don't know any way back to the article says parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► the world already filled with smartphones that price may give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► Apple watch the graduation gift appeal that according to Bronner brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► industrial designer who used to be above johnnie I think about when he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► and had since gone on to beat beats consciously sought with its head from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► pricing but I was solid gold models innocently named Apple watch addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► are expected to cost many thousands of dollars John Gruber and influential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► Apple blogger has written at the price may be quote shockingly high dot dot dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► from the perspective of the tech industry but perhaps disruptive lilo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► Alex even carry my talents over from the perspective of the traditional watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► jewellery world I like that I got at Alexs into the new yorker their writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► to I don't know if they're allowed to use is not the way I do so from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► perspective of the traditional watch and jewelry roll I wish he had quoted my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► line that it's that that when prices of the edition models has announced its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3620">TS</a>]
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01:00:33 ◼ ► feel confident that that's the line that will stand up stand the test of time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3633">TS</a>]
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01:00:47 ◼ ► well here's here's why I thought about this and I you know my name and my quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3647">TS</a>]
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01:00:57 ◼ ► to johnnie i've and he talked to a bunch of other people that we talked in court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► he talked about men trio talked to Jeff Williams and it was months in the making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► it involved I think he seems as though he traveled to England to talk to Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► johnny's father you know he just sort of thing that the new yorkers one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► few publications in the world that can do this because it's expensive I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► expensive to do this kind of reporting he had access and there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► interesting quotes that you don't typically get from Apple executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► surely he asked them about watch pricing and is nothing inherently doesn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► that he did but I must've right and they must have said no comment we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► going to talk about pricing at the time but maybe like did he come up did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► quote me because he you know he reads me I readies or liability or off the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► today was a member of it the Steve Jobs we think John Gruber's piece on this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► inside like maybe they said off the record you can't quotas but we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► John Gruber's principal yeah we thought his piece on the pricing was inside ploy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► not Nick I really wonder about that was something that they they said we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► talk about this but you should look here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► yeah that's certainly possible that's the to me it's it's the stupidest sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► of like four levels of indirection confirmation but the fact that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► such access to Apple and even he points to the edition watches being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► quote many thousands of dollars is the steamy the surest thing it's more sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► than even the sort of back of the envelope math I've been doing under fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► ball with just the price of gold and how much gold is actually going to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► team more even more convincing than that is that if Ian Parker who so just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► says multi many thousands of dollars and must be I would bet on it but I keep I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► then I just keeps cycling back to what all the naysayers say which is come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► the charts thousands of Watson's gonna be outdated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► well that's the thing it's the it's the outdated Ennis that runs into it goes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► if it is the kind that your two years yeah then the best price becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► except someone untenable well but it's a uni are we keep going back to thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► like logical human beings who have some semblance of rational control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► finances were a lot of people which is strange for us right like in a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► perverted sense if it if it does have a time timestamp shelf life if it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► have a shelf life of just a few years it almost makes it more of a luxury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► it might be more ostentatious to buy $10,000 Apple watch that's only gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► useful for three years than it would be to buy a $50,000 Rolex that will outlive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► you know be used you know be a value long after your debt right like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► $50,000 Rolex that becomes a family heirloom is still $50,000 watch but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► $10,000 what's that going to be going in a desk drawer in three years is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► judy is a couple weeks ago against Apple in 2010 and check out this guy to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► that I am richer than a pause and actually like what a jerk and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► wait a minute maybe there's something to that little after just totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► trails off uncomfortable or buying gold my God speaking about that kind of want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► but should I hope he's making an iPhone app while I R you know he is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► maintain the article mentioned you have in addition as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► well I and then you certainly put your sleeve back and you've got the I am rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► no idea who the group all the names of the name of that horrible company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► makes the really expensive phones in over 240 242 yet and it mentions it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► mentions retail in quotes somebody is saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► that johnny was very interested in that company yeah yeah and I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► was because he liked their phones I think now I think the interest is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► he'd like enjoy people are buying and they're still I really thought that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► were going the way of the dodo want the iPhone came out because the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► was that in a world full of crap phones you can have the best phone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► yours was made with Leslie leather and premium materials even those running the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► same $15 Symbian you know chips and the interior as I get $30 Nokia phone I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► it's true but used to it they've they've since Mon Ami Nokia doesn't exist or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► doesn't sell phones anymore but when virtue is created a reduced it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► they were to Nokia what like Lexus is the Toyota or Acura is the Honda they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► were like a premium luxury subsidiary brand but they just used the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► that I can accurately L is has a frame of i go to Honda Accord it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► like take the case apart and it was exactly the same as certain you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► each each Vertu phone responded to a corresponding Nokia phone and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► couldn't premium products and sold it for five six thousand dollars and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► did have the other thing that I guess that virtue still has to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► concierge service where you can buy cable I guess what you do is look things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4053">TS</a>]
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01:07:48 ◼ ► read about it that it really does the whole idea of the concierge predates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► idea of apps it's sort of like how everything in the flintstones had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4074">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► biological component you know like there is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► like they put something they put it in the microwave microwave was really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► a turtle with a couple of matches create a fire you know underneath the food and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► yeah you know everything have a good thing they that's what the virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► concierge service was it like so like you and I relate hey let's go get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► state and we'd open open table and would be like bloop bloop table 4 to 8:30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► tonight steak you instead you persons button on your virtual phone and talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4112">TS</a>]
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01:08:42 ◼ ► then they do it does but anyway I thought that you know once the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► came out and clearly you were not getting the best phone in the world you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► are you know the best-trained world was you know $600 that they would quickly go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► the way of the dodo but they haven't they're still around they outlasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► Nokia yeah and I quote is from Clive Grand near was a friend of eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► then you start to worry that maybe it was Steve Jobs who kind of kept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► I mean look it up I have some notes from this article the lines are really stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► article the quotes big bug Mansfield is automatically he was so he was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4178">TS</a>]
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01:09:52 ◼ ► through and just spoil it to four people wondering farm boys when I think it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► well-written to be truthful and insanely jealous they got this access and that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► took advantage of it and and you know came up with such a great article that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► to me is so accurate as of the paws yeah yeah it's such a great sense alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► here's his partner writing I asked Jeff Williams the senior vice president if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► the Apple watch seemed more purely odds than previous company products after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► silence of 25 seconds during which Apple made $50,000 and profit he said yes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► is that is such a good two senses but it's it's the best paragraph about 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► I've ever read I think because clearly Jeff Williams and he needs to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► knowledge is never spoken to the press before clearly he is in today's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4255">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► very long time you know since late nineties and he's obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► comfortable and rather than you know an apple people you know he knows enough if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► he's not going to come from around the Babylon it be better to just sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► take a 25 second pause before saying yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► and that little aside during which Apple made fifty thousand dollars in profit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► think it's brilliant because it to me it's not slide it it to me know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4288">TS</a>]
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01:11:41 ◼ ► remind you of why this is of interest why this company is of interest why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4301">TS</a>]
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01:12:00 ◼ ► you know like the Jeopardy theme song there's there's a lot in the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► yes that is pretentious I mean that comes can easily come across as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► comments about other people's cars while these drug known as bath yeah and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► is a good friend and and the fact that simple fact that they're just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► crazy rich I mean you know all these cuts for the rich and you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► gotta get a plane he was buying the living room houses in England you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► that were built in the seventeen hundreds are good friend Dan Lyons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► jumped on this did you see I did you did not see no I don't think he now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► trying to reach my thought I thought he was done he wears you writing now is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► a great yeah no video I thought so cuz he wrote that he his his back was given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► province in the current blog and he's writing a book and so I took over values [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► and you still gotta tell you if you have a min I feel like you know what I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► like the the man professionally I don't but I don't wish injury on anybody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► so I certainly hope in all sincerity I do hope that whatever is wrong with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► get better quickly I don't have been poked fun at that or any kind of medical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► problem but I do have to say as somebody who blogs professionally I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► if you have to have a job where you get a bad back injury this might be the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► to have like you can I would say my yeah I would say my finger injury where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4434">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► I would I would have traded that for a back injury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► any any day of the week yeah I think so anyway though he wrote he repeats for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► Valley why Apple design boss John John I've this issue I swear I think I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► you call Jonathan you can call him Johnny who calls and John nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► as far as I know in the history of the world nobody's ever called him john john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► i've get chauffeured to work in a Bentley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► this is crazy this is his lead I mean this is seriously crazy stuff there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► surprisingly little to be learned about sir Jonathan Ive in this seventeen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► thousand-word piece in The New Yorker accept this the fucker gets driven to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► work in a Bentley more Sun car quote a car for a head of state as Ian Parker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► puts it how can you say there is surprisingly little to be learned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► this there's almost too much to to cover it's almost crazy and that the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► you text me using unprecedented access that one detail is about deadlines at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► one detail says it all if you want to know who wield the real power it up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► look no further than most and starting price is a tech over $300,000 and can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► higher like if you get a special Grey Poupon refrigerator I guess but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► price is not the point the point is the chauffeur his name is gene there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► nowhere in the article about whether I've makes jean wearing uniform and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► so whether I've designed the uniform himself and if so if he selected his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► driver by making a few dozen candidates lineup and posed to see which one would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► look best in the uniform that I've designed and/or which one would agree to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► have plastic surgery to make themselves look just so in that uniform and hat but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► John IV is off the fuckin rails and the only person who can train them in is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► longer among the living so it's like you know how many people I know so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► people who work in San Francisco who's part of their job get free over its like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► it's a good super common nowadays it's like driving sucks so there's all I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► like super common purpose you job hump to get free over and you just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► which is not quite the same as having your own personal shopper at 300,000 our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► car because what John IV is a billionaire like he owned a you said he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► bought Steve Jobs private jet so if you own a private jet I think holding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► $300,000 cars actually not crazy at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► yeah I mean it makes sense I mean you know the guy in the money it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► for him to spend it the way he wants to spend it that's not really much I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► don't have whatever problem here but it's just that it's just the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► the incongruence between that and you know how wealth levels many can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4610">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► little bit here there's a kernel of truth and accuracy in in in his article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► next thing he said you know how people say that no way with this happen if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► Steve are alive and running Apple usually those people are full of shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► but this is one case where it's true no way with Steve have allowed this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► Tappan while there that that sentence I believe is completely true no way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► article happens if Steve Jobs is still running out although I'm not a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► percent sure whether that's because of Steve everywhere that's because of Katie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► which weekend so I go back to second no way would he have allowed one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► employees to be deified like this for that matter no way with john i've have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► dared to ride around with a chauffeur when steve is alive and no way with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► Steve have ever been so vulgar is to be driven around by a chauffeur and Bentley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► like a normal are no like a modern-day Favreau Steve drove his own Mercedes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► parked in the handicapped space like a normal sociopath whenever one Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► that's a funny like Steve Jobs lived in Palo Alto so he had like a 15 minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► drive to work Jony ive lives in San Francisco which is a shitty drive its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► I've done it because I've stayed in San Francisco for Apple events it's well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► over an hour especially you know of course get worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► like the sort of our way you go to work cause that's when everybody else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► too terribly terrible drive I mean it like once or twice a year for me it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► something that I would do five or six days a week it would make you crazy he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► a billionaire night one of them did two things that came out of this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► one is that Parker doesn't mention anything about it and somebody brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► this up on Twitter awhile ago but Apple I don't know what the legal things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► but for some of their executives they reveal an SEC filings what their stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► grants are right there was a thing with angela is getting a huge one you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► gotta with more pay than Tim Cook last year because it was like a one time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► know here's a whole bunch of stock to tempt you to you know come from buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► Apple but somebody pointed out that johnnie I was never been listed in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► like nobody knows what johnnie life makes nobody knows how much Apple stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► has it's it's like super secret but the article clearly you know Parker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► article clearly insinuate that at one point johnnie I was thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► leaving Apple least pondered it like when he bought like you said the 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► bedroom mansion in England in Indianapolis business I mean whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► compensation is keeping it secret and presumably it is immense and write like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► he might be and so I he might be the you know I would guess is showing some signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► that it might be a Mets I'm guessing that it's you know on part probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► closest only to you know Steve Jobs as compensation over the last fifteen years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► you know but its billions I would guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► you know which for a company I mean I can't understand how they may have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► file those things I don't know I don't know I don't know maybe I'm wrong maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► they've filed a long time I don't know but there is a mission for listeners of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► the talk show if anybody out there can figure out what johnnie obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► compensation from Apple is and has been widely now but as far as I know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► and I don't know I don't think they have to do it for everybody there might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► like certain legally defined positions like the chief operating officer to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► who you you have to file at four but I don't think that's possible why would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► be you know why would it be required to reveal the salary of him just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► its title is senior vice president right I don't think it is I don't there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► nothing magical about just being a senior vice president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► it's just a word right they don't have to reveal that the salaries of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► individual and you know engineers and designers yeah I know its secret and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► presume you meant it just seems bizarre thing for people to get hung up on us he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► was in a car accident along time ago I don't forget to send in the article but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► there is a good Johnny I was in a bad car wreck along time ago like driving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► sports car across country to net taylor's I don't remember that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► while now so maybe it's not in this article might not be in this article but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► anyway you know it just seems it's almost like the opposite where it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► like it's in Apple's interests to you know get a professional driver that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► about driver but you know I like driving fast right like me right in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► yeah if anybody knows Jony ive they're very reasonably priced I'm sure he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► afford if anybody knows Jony ive pass along the coupon code talk show he saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► 20 bucks on his automatic for his Bentley and get him a square now I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► thinking about the whole this would article would not have happened if steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► Jobs was around and I don't think there's any doubt that it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► that he would job selfishly wouldn't wanna let the attention than anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► else he wouldn't have allowed an article like that about himself but I do wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► how much of that was jobs his own choice and how much of it came from Katie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► cotton was at Apple before you know she was a double the whole time while while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► jobs came back and she was already there and you know he would she was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► ones who jobs capped and you know obviously got very close to and follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► her advice you know very closely but I wonder whether she drove that no media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► policy more than even jobs did because at least early in his career jobs maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► wasn't accessible but he certainly was occasionally accessible yeah but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► seems like that's a pretty good there's a good chance that the cases yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► to me that the existence of this article is is the biggest sign that Apple is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► new open more open attitude and that Apple PR under Steve Dowling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► significantly different their PR under one of the one of the things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► it seems like there are several people well the designers of the target in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5026">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► hermetically sealed for its not a secret because they show up as a team every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► couple years to pick up awards you know in black tie type things and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► pictures and people know some of them are but none of them ever spoken to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► press before and here they spoke fairly openly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► you know they even talked about a specific instance was there is a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► what was her name but she would she had wanted to use what an orange-brown for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► the interior of the box for the addition and and then even in hindsight now she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► agrees out there was a terrible terrible unless there's a there's a plus that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► know that we know from the article by the addition you'll get a cloth to clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► up to $1000 right there I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5088">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► yeah yeah but doesn't use a lot of brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► here's one that I thought was interesting this is Johnny ice team team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► members work 12 hours in the day and can't discuss work with friends why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► they can't just go to work but 12 hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► apparently seems that she's not twelve hours a day all the time I mean you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► to work at nine and you don't leave until 9 p.m. man that seems crazy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► mean when I worked in Japan man hours that's right and in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► well then followed by 12 hours of booze and story time some nights not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5154">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► every night so don't worry that I'm bell rings at nine o'clock in the evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► sanitizer and now we drink until we throw up on the train each product has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5168">TS</a>]
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01:26:55 ◼ ► things she said that's true I've said laughing it was so bad she had proposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► that an ultra suede clock inside the box for a gold version of the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► should be an orangey brown I've had objected with comic hyperbole comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5225">TS</a>]
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01:27:34 ◼ ► brusca earnest term it is really more about being trained to be open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► direct rather than being cruel hurtful and you know and yeah sorry sorry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► does hurt your feelings but his whole you know I thought jobs intent was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5271">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► as opposed to really try to stick a knife and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► trying to hurt people's feelings he wasn't he wasn't Chevy Chase and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► often hurt hurt people's feelings but it was simply because he didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► waste their time by not getting right to the heart and that was the only I right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► in assuming it was like it was he considered it unfair to them and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► that was pretty interesting when other people who Parker clearly had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► significant access to was Steve Jobs his wife Laurene Powell Jobs and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► and you know I think it backs up the you know everybody has said that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► johnnie and Steve were more than just colleagues they were really really close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► friends because she clearly knows him very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5335">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► he was there the day that he died yeah even if jobs addressing this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► following up on your thing about how jobs it you know sort of criticized the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► way Johnny Ives gave criticism by being too gentle even if jobs at rescued him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► from vagueness it was odd drive to bring this up now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► immediately after I'd learned how to reject a color without causing injury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► here's a quote from Laurene Powell Jobs I've seen johnnie deeply frustrated but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► I've never seen him rant and rave Laurene Powell Jobs said and she added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5370">TS</a>]
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01:29:41 ◼ ► imagine I've using a disabled parking spot adds jobs often long before you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► unwell and what a great article so many so much great stuff but also forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► certain subjects he also he did say about the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► certain subjects he also he did say about the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5394">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► as his eyes except book I regard by regard couldn't be any lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5400">TS</a>]
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01:30:13 ◼ ► isaacson book which was scathing as I can get I got you know some of the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► get every kind feedback but some of the feedback was of sounds like sour grapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5418">TS</a>]
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01:30:58 ◼ ► you know I trust you because it was terrible I thought especially about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► professional life and I couldn't be more effusive praise for all of this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► Parker New Yorker story because I think it's totally nailed a part of Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5469">TS</a>]
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01:34:38 ◼ ► johnny doesn't speak in public doesn't have to speak in public cynicism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► comfortable but he does the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► appears in those videos such videos used to punctuate jobs is on stage message in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► the absence of jobs they carry the message Apple's current leaders aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► without public speaking skills but they can't match jobs is charisma which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5695">TS</a>]
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01:35:07 ◼ ► of hint of menace is absolutely part of Steve Jobs is on-stage charisma it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5707">TS</a>]
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01:35:23 ◼ ► dancing and lanyards of a corporate retreat so little bit of a singer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► towards I don't know sure and I guess I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► sort of that the humor maybe I don't know but I love that hint of menace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► about jobs such a great such an astute turn of phrase to describe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► is a long does a lot of talk about the digital background I would definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► and how they came up with that and they end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► you brothers issue of the other day things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► smart watches have not had that they've all rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► touch input on the screen yes yeah yeah just something I hadn't really noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5769">TS</a>]
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01:36:22 ◼ ► crown position but it's just a button it's a good thing is to wake the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5782">TS</a>]
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01:39:57 ◼ ► a burning crucifix I asked about his contribution was just a conversation he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► said then explained that although he did nothing about crossing guards he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► made a case for unevenness thought it would be interesting if it were a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► less precise and just a little bit more Spiti a redesign weapon could be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► analog and more primitive and I think in that way somehow more ominous that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6017">TS</a>]
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01:40:34 ◼ ► sounds like everything that you like about that lightsaber everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► was most people seem to like this what Chinese and not the cross which most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► people don't seem like I'm not bothered by it I'm not bothered by it either but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► you know a lot of people are spitting dance a little bit more speedy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► would make it you know less digital or analog would make it more ominous is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6055">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► so totally true and it's so precise right I clearly I think part of his gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► he's able to communicate is feeling so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► speedy is such a great word for that I was so great a truly great another thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► that came out of this was that the video that unveiled the watch that johnnie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► I've narrates that he directed it effectively I mean I'm sure not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► single-handedly but that it was you know you know you know with Parker there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► he spent a lot of time in that room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► editing the video it was a pretty good yeah discs not something I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► expected that johnnie I've had a direct hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► yeah I mentioned in the article that thing I took away from what I like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► add one thing I did mention is that it does seem the article does make it seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► like Johnny Ives spread very thin as he's obviously in charge of all Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► products one of the products are coming out with the Apple watch is their first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► major new product in the post jobs era and Johnny I was clearly feeling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► pressure on that article makes clear about you know who would have thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► worrisome if it were anything but he was like Nigel on about it but a lot on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► shoulders is working with Angela Lawrence on a redesign of all the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► stores and he's like the point person leading the directing the assembly of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► the new Apple headquarters have your say construction but they even make a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► that the way that they're putting it together is more assembly then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► hey got a worldwide headquarters you know presumably their headquarters for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► the next 50 years a landmark building got all the Apple stores he's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► watch and all the other products that they have seemed sandy's are taken over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► software design work 12 hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► johnnie work 12 hours a day it seems as though you must work more hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► I got to know that the whole team needs work 12 hours a day but it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► like all those all those executives are just lying there basically I'm sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► they're kind of a kind of on all the time now I think they'll have a lot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► their plate does I don't know I have no doubt that all of them are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► makes a few passing remarks about how you know he's not always right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► newsstand icon specifically but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► things like that they did bring up a park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► bring up the hockey puck mouse which is wholly many people always go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► when I always have to mention always have to mention that my wife loved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► years after her purple I'm a kid bit the dust she was still using the purple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► hockey puck mouse with whatever computers she had next shared there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► people who like that mouse I mean my wife has relatively small chance I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► be why I don't know I had never met one but I guess I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► I got one of those plastic things that you clicked on it just to make it feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► like a real why did he just buy a new man was cheaper cheaper than my name out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► like those couple bucks or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► it's like the mouse part worked fine it was just the fact that I could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► tell just reaching out blindly and grabbing it you could never tell which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► to be arraigned in the right way is Bob Mansfield this to me again this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6295">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► insight into the company that to me is unprecedented and it just drops out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► the middle of random paragraph article Bob Mansfield then closely involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► the watch product project and a number 12 we know that before into another Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► Mansfield was the special project well I mean no I mean I thought you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► could guess that it was stated explicitly said that I was role was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► be quote himself and Steve and quote combined yet I've still had to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► case to Apple and and that's another way I have to think that that johnnie HIV's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► spread thin in addition to this listing on the project he's working on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► explicitly stated here by Bob Mansfield that his he sees his new role is to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► what used to be Stephen johnnie two geniuses is the one right it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► know it's like if the Beatles got back together and Paul John and Paul right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6355">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► mean it's more but I am not even making a joke I mean it's would you feel if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► you've personally felt that it was your job to be Steve Jobs in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► everything you yourself have already done I mean that's that's a bird I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► that is that is a serious serious weight on your psyche it wasn't there he met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► all this about whether or not they should all watch and that mike mansfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► recalled quote a lot of resistance it wasn't clear how the company would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► display such things in stores there were also concerns about creating a divide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► between wealthy and less wealthy customers as Mansfield said Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► to build products for everybody but I've won the argument and in 2013 the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► announced the high-level appointments of Angela Ahrendts bob up and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► people you know I don't think I think that's sort of that that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► I my vague second third and understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6417">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► of the story behind the watches and the story of Johnny Ives role in the post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► Jobs Apple but here's you know Bob Mansfield confirming it on the record in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► New Yorker you know that there will you know exactly what everybody thinks just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► you know Apple fans clicking on Twitter you know that isn't it weird that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► is making this product that is so crazy differentiated you know by a factor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► 10 in price between this 350 sport and $1,000 thing and that there were people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► in Apple who it would you know I'd high-level with an appellate decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► making level with an apple who obviously said the same things and had the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► concerns and there are only there on I think those are valid concerns I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► think they're going to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► it is something to be concerned about ya somethin keep an eye on you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► it's it's in a sense you know and and you know I would have fallen on a Jony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► ive shoulders no matter what the success or if it's not a success of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► watches gonna fall on my shoulders anyway but with this article it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► there's no if ands or buts about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► Brady article I mean almost explode presley just says the watch is Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► certainly certainly the luxury aspect of it yeah definitely I've heard that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► that Sikes third and fourth him but I have heard that very specifically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► gold thing that a lot of resistance within a ball and that late from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► sorts of places you know cause I gave him i'd legal department having involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► in you know you can't call it eighteen karat gold unless it's truly a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► caracal you know all sorts of you know it was a huge huge thing within apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► and it was johnnie you know said trust me more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► not mentioned in here who is not mentioned in here and i know i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6535">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► I think legally mentioned a couple times a year and I think there's a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► makes make some reference to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► Johnny can get along with other people better than he could well and know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► he ran interference with Steve right isn't that one man's yeah yeah but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► but he also just said like people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► senior hardware engineer double who is now semi-retired recently described the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6584">TS</a>]
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01:49:53 ◼ ► that some colleagues felt about I was privileged access as he put it quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► there's always some always going to be someone vying for dads attention but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► Mansfield was grateful for ives call handling of a CEO who was quote not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► Mansfield you was johnnie puts up with a lot and as a result of him doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► with forestall personality wise and again you know i think is a personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► more than anything else I don't think you know there was more than whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► think that that game center should have a felt background or you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► personality and I wasn't Mansfield who the word was that Mansfield was I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► I'm not taking a meeting with this guy like that's what I thought yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► like he wouldn't take a meeting with him and less like jobs I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► one of the reasons why he had basically announces retirement and then decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► come back and he won't he won't be in a room with Scott Forstall was in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► and cook i cant you know I cannot have this you know ya might have some stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► to do it might be my work 12 hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► Tim Cook my work 12 hours a morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► there was a great quote from there is going to watch there is a great quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► here from cook which to me shows I think it's one of them loose quote I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► heard from Tim Cook has Tim Cook is he's like a machine with talking points now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► he he I think he's always very honest I'd really do I think he's very honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► and very sincere but it's so hard to see him in an interview and not see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► everything he said he's already anticipated you know the Charlie Rose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► interviews the closest because it was the longest but he says here in the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► yorker story under Cook Apple's experimented with a softer less neurotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► image and has among other things strive to improve its performance as a proxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6716">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► employer of overseas factory workers it's determined to make the case as cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► puts it that the company's leaders shouldn't be thought of as quote greedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► bastards looking for more money but then in reference to to the new campus Parker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► point out of a private walled garden costing an estimated five billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► but I do think I think that's not too loose quote from coke and I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► truly mean to but it's a you know I think in Tim Cook's world Basterds is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► really that's a hard word yeah he drops the F bomb in there someplace to cook I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► thought so I don't think so really no don't know there's only a certain ok and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► when you first met the first time you met Steve Jobs when he visited the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6776">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► design studio and saw that they had cool stuff but they haven't been able to ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► it told johnnie I've frock you've been very effective have you what a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► article on nasa got everybody out there if you have not read this article you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► are out of your mind because I if you have enough interest in Apple to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► to this podcast this article is so right up your alley I'm gonna just assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6804">TS</a>]
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01:53:40 ◼ ► across classes can come across the leaders however you want to put it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxURDcY/6820">TS</a>]
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