The Talk Show

110: ‘Rats in the Lobby’, With Guest Merlin Mann


00:00:00   is still there are you know what I did at you sound so much better than i did I [TS]

00:00:05   plugged it into a different USB port who I gotta think this is part of the last [TS]

00:00:09   episode all recorded using this old there are you gonna go to the new iMac [TS]

00:00:16   now well yeah I guess I should i shouldnt why don't I don't know [TS]

00:00:21   yeah the air is powerful enough to do that that's probably why the show sounds [TS]

00:00:26   like should know I you know and I actually know that this this old MacBook [TS]

00:00:33   Air that I've used by I do it because I'm in some ways I'm a seminal and I [TS]

00:00:37   think I've recorded like every episode of the talk show for I don't know at [TS]

00:00:42   least the last 34 years using that air so I want to keep doing yeah I mean you [TS]

00:00:47   said no not at all but you said not too long ago how baseball is baseball fans [TS]

00:00:53   there are people who are into the numbers of people who are into the story [TS]

00:00:56   and your story guy right right and then you know the MacBook Airs gotta get a [TS]

00:01:01   story when I stopped using my road I was pretty nervous because I was like I've [TS]

00:01:04   been using this since forty three folders Mac break weekly like you know [TS]

00:01:08   it's so done it I'm just changing to a better mike lee with that matter it [TS]

00:01:13   shouldn't but I felt like a little bit disloyal oh it what did you switch to do [TS]

00:01:19   couple things I'm using assure [TS]

00:01:21   7 be no gotta it's super annoying so I gotta go through a this Presonus thing I [TS]

00:01:29   want that I think Marcos tell me about that yeah I don't want to do that you [TS]

00:01:35   know I think I just too much rock music I when people have these conversations [TS]

00:01:39   about stuff i just i just don't hear it I don't hear what they're talking about [TS]

00:01:43   makes me feel like a charlatan I i mean I can notice in production values like [TS]

00:01:50   win like the public radio show with a budget sounds different than three guys [TS]

00:01:54   talking about Linux not like I don't notice that much about mics and stuff do [TS]

00:01:58   you know I don't you listen to the podcast metals into a lot goes into [TS]

00:02:04   enough but when I do I'm listening with your buds so [TS]

00:02:08   and I you know I don't think in a lot of times I would say easily eighty-five [TS]

00:02:16   percent of the time I'm listening to podcasts walking through the city so [TS]

00:02:20   there's so much noise you know is that the quality of the Miami now you know [TS]

00:02:26   why I understand why people make it sound as good as they can but I could [TS]

00:02:30   never hear the difference between Mike did you get a delivery drivers license [TS]

00:02:39   to remember it was on an episode of the talk show with Dan and you had the [TS]

00:02:45   holiday party it's my favorite episode of the talk show and how they took your [TS]

00:02:52   license away I don't remember that it was the holiday season to remember and I [TS]

00:02:56   don't remember why they take away so I made out to remember ever get so many [TS]

00:03:06   points Ryan I had seen you refused to go to traffic school and and and you know [TS]

00:03:10   the dance credit he he he played the entire episode straight it was really [TS]

00:03:13   funny how that was a good that was a HRE HRE and I got should write that down for [TS]

00:03:21   the show and i got I think most people got it but I definitely got a fair [TS]

00:03:27   amount of email from listeners who are telling me hey you know maybe you ought [TS]

00:03:32   to get some help you know that's not funny it's not funny racking up all [TS]

00:03:37   those points you know that hurts the government there I you know you're going [TS]

00:03:43   to learn you know crossing the street kid Jesus Christ you know I am so tired [TS]

00:03:51   words and discussed up saying things it's just give up and just gonna make [TS]

00:03:57   grants and maybe a little but you know no matter what you say last night on the [TS]

00:04:03   Twitter about how I wish Netflix streaming five seasons match the five [TS]

00:04:08   good seasons match how I wish they would have without the laugh track me [TS]

00:04:15   responses from people on the one hand telling me how Palin that's physically [TS]

00:04:18   impossible since it's hard to hold it and in other people's [TS]

00:04:23   the DVD truck so that I know that I was just it's it's just the federal common [TS]

00:04:30   it's it's ok everything's gonna be fine you must get that bike to the 10th power [TS]

00:04:34   especially when you're being jokey about whatever sports technology you must you [TS]

00:04:39   must get so many responses from people I can never predict though like I'll post [TS]

00:04:47   some kind of you know absurd to eat and I think I gotta get so many people who [TS]

00:04:52   take this seriously and then there's nothing and then I throw one out the [TS]

00:04:55   many worried about and everybody is absolutely no way to know I make I make [TS]

00:05:02   a lot of news related your mother jokes and every time I expect incredible blow [TS]

00:05:06   back nothing that's right that's awesome and they won't crack of a match having a [TS]

00:05:10   laugh track and like the gallery rises one but it's good what was the deal with [TS]

00:05:19   matches left right away I recall it is season one there was no laugh track and [TS]

00:05:24   it was a ratings it was it was precipitous that it was like the ratings [TS]

00:05:29   were so bad that it was on the border of not coming back for another season and [TS]

00:05:33   that they wanted to one of the changes they made between season 1 season two is [TS]

00:05:37   they added a laugh track [TS]

00:05:38   yeah I don't I remember having read and most people who enjoy them a show it's a [TS]

00:05:46   pretty hot topic because you can on the DVDs I don't own the DVDs I hate DVDs I [TS]

00:05:52   hate physical media to my house i mean i three at the court of last resort I [TS]

00:05:57   gotta get all the James Bond films like everybody you know about $100 blu-ray [TS]

00:06:01   package I got that I got the godfather and then I got a Dora something like [TS]

00:06:06   that but that's about it and yeah they had an alternate track where you can [TS]

00:06:11   have the audio without the laugh track I don't remember exactly how it happened [TS]

00:06:14   except I mean think about the time was at 72 73 something like that where every [TS]

00:06:19   every like three camera sitcom had a live audience can you get your own [TS]

00:06:25   families and stuff [TS]

00:06:27   and I think you know it probably seemed a little dead two people and some of the [TS]

00:06:31   humor is prob was probably a little bit dry it's just it suddenly became not [TS]

00:06:35   very dry and there's a very obvious left on it I just I really hate laugh tracks [TS]

00:06:40   they just did they drive me crazy and you can actually go and you know if you [TS]

00:06:44   know where to go I know you don't do these things but you can find copies of [TS]

00:06:47   it and it is actually a pretty different experience you go watch my favorite [TS]

00:06:51   episode Abyssinia henry the one where Henry leaves that episode it's the end [TS]

00:06:58   of season 3 I'm sure I'm sure he dies he gets shot out of the air and it's the [TS]

00:07:03   Epson right before trap proper leaves at the end of the season it's an amazing [TS]

00:07:08   scene at the end where radar walks into the operating room in and read the [TS]

00:07:13   notice that Henry's dad incredibly moving and watching that episode without [TS]

00:07:17   the laugh track is it is a different thing cuz it's one of the great episodes [TS]

00:07:21   of TV and you know you know it's good baby in a way that people at that time [TS]

00:07:25   wouldn't know it's good if you little insulting to have to put all that on its [TS]

00:07:31   super loud like on some shows like 90 shows where the laugh track got so loud [TS]

00:07:35   but yeah but it it always felt to me even as a kid and and growing up in an [TS]

00:07:41   era when all sitcoms had live tracks or as live studio audience and they even [TS]

00:07:46   want to live studio audience you know that they were the elaborate pretty loud [TS]

00:07:50   sometimes it always seemed incongruous because it clearly was not shot in front [TS]

00:07:56   of a live studio audience of his shot on real you know the soundstage yeah you [TS]

00:08:02   know like you know in that his magical shooting outdoors there's not people I'm [TS]

00:08:05   preachers there right and the production values were always such a mean clearly [TS]

00:08:09   in hindsight I mean everybody knew was a smash hit [TS]

00:08:12   eventually became a smash hit you know a couple of seasons and it was you know [TS]

00:08:15   like it was always a good I think it was always like number one or number two [TS]

00:08:20   with sixty minutes you know it's always like a fight which was going to be the [TS]

00:08:22   top-rated show the weekend [TS]

00:08:24   minutes I was a juggernaut member that was just like almost always it was it [TS]

00:08:28   was sixty minutes or something else for a little while I was always number one [TS]

00:08:33   or number two it felt like your civic obligation is an American with some [TS]

00:08:36   Sunday night at 7 yeah everybody who you know from seven to seventy would sit [TS]

00:08:40   down and watch 60 minutes [TS]

00:08:42   yeah it's funny that match is nasty I don't mean it to be but it's funny the [TS]

00:08:49   three of the stars of that show left because they wanted a better deal or [TS]

00:08:56   they wanted more attention you know Wayne Rogers as trapper McLean Stevenson [TS]

00:09:01   you know he was done with it and later on Larry Linville I decided he was done [TS]

00:09:04   at the Frank Burns character and you know I never found anything approaching [TS]

00:09:09   that again it's such a bummer replace Frank Burns Winchester right yeah he was [TS]

00:09:18   and he was there was tough the tough long as we can tell when chester was [TS]

00:09:21   actually a good surged yes we knew frank with you know there is a good show it is [TS]

00:09:32   interesting it's interesting in so many ways it was a good movie that started it [TS]

00:09:36   and then they didn't have any of the character you know any of the same [TS]

00:09:39   actors from the movie coming out here Berghoff was hurt in the movie [TS]

00:09:44   radar radar and the first season is much closer in the kind of anarchic spirit [TS]

00:09:52   the first two to the film but you know like anything though I think they kind [TS]

00:09:58   of the started this great thing was a great episode [TS]

00:10:01   rights to his dad called dear dad I remember that one time but it's really [TS]

00:10:06   good from like I know for second season and but then they did like they had like [TS]

00:10:10   deer peg and then they had dear father Mulcahy writing eventually Allan Arbus [TS]

00:10:18   member the psychiatrist he's writing to Sigmund Freud at some point like click [TS]

00:10:22   open letter got really bananas but it's a good show I mean it was it was really [TS]

00:10:27   up its time but by the end it was just was so insufferable even a flaming [TS]

00:10:32   liberal [TS]

00:10:32   I can watch that show it's such a pantomime you know politics haven't seen [TS]

00:10:36   it I remember petering out toward the end and I remember the last episode was [TS]

00:10:42   the chicken just committed there something that echoes the chicken [TS]

00:10:50   chicken I don't know I was always obsessiveness another lifelong obsession [TS]

00:10:54   obsession for me Mike Minor one is final episodes of shows I watch the last [TS]

00:11:00   episode of a show that I've never even launched just to see how you know I like [TS]

00:11:03   the last episode yeah and I watched measure you know I watched it i watch [TS]

00:11:09   the reruns you know a staple in our household bike flipping through the [TS]

00:11:13   stations waiting for dinner to be ready everybody could agree with watch mash [TS]

00:11:17   and the reruns her like 530 or something like that so as you know and the rerun [TS]

00:11:24   to restore on while the show is still wrapping up and absolutely yeah and I [TS]

00:11:29   think their last episode for a long time was the highest rated like nine Super [TS]

00:11:34   Bowl type yeah definitely what it was like a national and everybody what the [TS]

00:11:40   hell is that how does it play now [TS]

00:11:47   like watching any of those episodes with Jamie Farr's character what was his name [TS]

00:11:54   clear how could I forget that so clear for anybody who isn't familiar cleaner [TS]

00:11:59   was played by Jamie Farr and he did not want to serve in the army this was [TS]

00:12:06   drafted it was drafted with these kids and he knew that there was something [TS]

00:12:10   that you could get if you are mentally unsound to serve in the army [TS]

00:12:13   you can get a section eight or something section 84 section eight so how do you [TS]

00:12:19   convince the army that you're crazy you just like carmen miranda is closed right [TS]

00:12:24   so he wore women's women's clothing all the time and you know didn't work [TS]

00:12:29   everybody was a stick was but he never let up on it so he still has a job [TS]

00:12:34   that's a threat he showed up dressing interested in using pretty good nurse [TS]

00:12:38   that's part of the problem you should undermine the basic ask what you're [TS]

00:12:43   doing [TS]

00:12:43   or do the minute such as bananas way that it's clear that you're crazy you [TS]

00:12:46   know I'm saying you know it's it's ok I think the earlier seasons are far better [TS]

00:12:52   TV shows it always takes a few episodes or a seasoned to find their legs and [TS]

00:12:57   then you know things tend to go for a while I make an image of any kind [TS]

00:13:05   yeah but it's you know like like like like this very day last night was a [TS]

00:13:13   record yesterday was the day Jon Stewart announced that he was going to step down [TS]

00:13:18   from the Daily Show and then it's like he said something during the show did [TS]

00:13:22   you watch out watching it was like now when you say I think he said he's been [TS]

00:13:24   doing it for seventeen years did I was watching me and I was like I can't be [TS]

00:13:28   and I was like an hour and then on my golf course he's going to step down [TS]

00:13:35   show four days a week Thurs and i know i mean talking to you in particular [TS]

00:13:41   hodgman and Rob Corddry about it people I know who been on that show and work [TS]

00:13:45   with him all say the same thing which is that the first is very nice guy and you [TS]

00:13:49   know he's a good guy but also that he is one of the parties is the hardest [TS]

00:13:55   working person in the building so when hodgman go on there he would have a kind [TS]

00:13:58   of a prepared bit and then I mean you know he's not to use the showrunner but [TS]

00:14:03   he he was involved in every right up until like he was making everybody in [TS]

00:14:08   the room [TS]

00:14:09   better on every episode imagine doing that for over 15 years that would take [TS]

00:14:13   out of you and I think that I am ordering groceries and in this case [TS]

00:14:16   doing everything I think it's very clear too that he you know [TS]

00:14:24   and it didn't sports ball turns his he was a good passer basketball like he was [TS]

00:14:30   not concerned obviously he's the host of the show he's you know the one who does [TS]

00:14:34   the whole first half single-handedly an on-air Lee's obviously with the [TS]

00:14:39   operators but as soon as anybody else is on whether it's a bit at the desk like [TS]

00:14:45   hodgman thing or anything else it he is so a hundred percent concentrated on [TS]

00:14:51   making that other person look as good as they possibly can and make sure that [TS]

00:14:55   they get as many of the laughs as they possibly can I totally agree and I mean [TS]

00:15:00   we conduct our hero like the paragon of that I mean Carson was so good [TS]

00:15:07   ever that was that was reynolds over whether that was some grandmother that [TS]

00:15:12   had done something crazy he was so generous I mean I think even if he [TS]

00:15:16   wasn't loving quarter would be the one who can step in ago where to go to [TS]

00:15:21   commercial but sometimes you know given a hand signal but he was i mean he was [TS]

00:15:26   there and fully committed to whatever was happening and wanted to make that [TS]

00:15:30   person everybody yeah exactly so I I was surprised I have to say like just to [TS]

00:15:37   commit to the whole a tight shuffling I was a little surprised when Letterman [TS]

00:15:42   announced his retirement that Jon Stewart didn't get that maybe he didn't [TS]

00:15:48   want it you know if he was thinking about stepping down from this you know [TS]

00:15:53   and a daily basis maybe I didn't want you know he didn't want to do it I was [TS]

00:15:58   not the Jon Stewart would be an excellent you know like letterman show [TS]

00:16:05   host yeah yeah yeah I agree and you know it's funny to think about like what the [TS]

00:16:10   world was likely Letterman started and it will be impossible to explain to [TS]

00:16:14   somebody today probably in the same way that Steve Allen [TS]

00:16:17   us the ability to get old guy but Steve Allen show broke the mold I mean there's [TS]

00:16:22   never been anybody on TV quite like Steve Allen who was so kind of you know [TS]

00:16:26   cultural and and witty and smart but also so with you such crazy stunts and [TS]

00:16:32   that had a huge influence on [TS]

00:16:34   and then later comes along and you know they had that crazy deal with Carson [TS]

00:16:38   this right like there is they had a very they had a guy from Carson's production [TS]

00:16:44   team there who basically made sure that the rules are you can't book anybody [TS]

00:16:50   who's a Chinese regulars you know johnny is the first bite of any of these [TS]

00:16:54   particular Apple's there's all kinds of rules but that was constraint that he [TS]

00:16:58   worked on larry bud melman or he brought in Chris Elliott and that made the show [TS]

00:17:02   so much more fun and so much weirder than if that awkward young David [TS]

00:17:07   Letterman was trying to interview you know I think most famously there were [TS]

00:17:11   restrictions on the length of the monologue and all because that's the [TS]

00:17:15   only thing yeah I was Johnny's thing and so on the old Letterman Show Letterman [TS]

00:17:20   would come out and do three jokes and they were so perfunctory like the tube [TS]

00:17:25   it was almost like his complete disdain for the model he would just come out and [TS]

00:17:29   do three really clipped perfunctory jokes and then it was on to the desk and [TS]

00:17:35   the rest of the part that made it part that made a funny every night was how [TS]

00:17:39   terrible he made it seem like he thought it was like that was a terrible joke [TS]

00:17:43   adjusting his tie and that's what made it funny right so they took the [TS]

00:17:49   restrictions from Carson productions on the monologue and and I think eventually [TS]

00:17:53   like I think once it's settled in and it was very clear I don't think it took [TS]

00:17:57   long for Carson and his people to realize that Letterman was no threat to [TS]

00:18:02   Carson like there was no way that Letterman was ever going to steal his [TS]

00:18:07   job right right like he's just not that type of person and he was fine you know [TS]

00:18:12   I think famously he wanted it and when it went up when the time came in when [TS]

00:18:16   johnnie retired but he was never going to backstab if his ratings head you know [TS]

00:18:21   if I could never seen anything like completely grateful he tells the story [TS]

00:18:26   and I guess the first time he was on a cold over to the couch like he he [TS]

00:18:30   honestly he still sounds like a kid like a moving moment that was for him to get [TS]

00:18:34   to do that so i think that eventually I don't think it took long where if if he [TS]

00:18:39   had wanted to do longer monologues I don't really think that the problem is [TS]

00:18:41   gonna ring in the course of people were gonna say [TS]

00:18:44   you know you were supposed to two-minute monologue and you did to 30 last night [TS]

00:18:48   but I think that they just embrace the that anti monologue you know that there [TS]

00:18:53   just became part of the signatures show we had beaten to death but I think about [TS]

00:18:58   the stuff that I remember when I would hear somebody was going to be on I would [TS]

00:19:02   get so excited and certainly there's famous scenes where they drew Barrymore [TS]

00:19:06   acting all crazy or Crispin Glover was all those are famous but what you really [TS]

00:19:13   remember from the first three years I mean you you remember people like Harvey [TS]

00:19:17   Pekar you remember people like charles grodin I remember you remember people [TS]

00:19:21   being on there who like out Jeff I love just like he would be seen [TS]

00:19:28   twenty-pound but steak you know and that's what made the show and then like [TS]

00:19:33   the Prince of fluids and all that stuff that was the product of that privation [TS]

00:19:38   is what made the show good lasted as long as it had been just another show ep [TS]

00:19:43   car hadn't thought about him and maybe twenty years so it was a bit like it was [TS]

00:19:49   on Carson or lettering you got that it was kind of a bit but are genuinely seem [TS]

00:19:53   to hate and hate the idea of being on the ship right and was just a miserable [TS]

00:19:58   person quite frankly it was not very attractive either so it wasn't really [TS]

00:20:03   like people like looking at him and so I think any normal talk show and be like I [TS]

00:20:08   don't know who booked him but they're fired and make sure we never have it [TS]

00:20:11   back again whereas the letterman people like let's have this guy back on every [TS]

00:20:14   couple out absolutely and was therefore I mean I think Jeff Altman is you know [TS]

00:20:19   one of his great repeat guests I mean he would he loved having jeff hoffman on [TS]

00:20:24   partly cuz I think you know I have to tell you if you don't already know this [TS]

00:20:27   I'm craving some of this from a podcast if you heard the podcast the Carson [TS]

00:20:31   podcast know you should know about this is a show this guy in LA does this can [TS]

00:20:35   be in LA it's called the course and podcast podcast is him interviewing [TS]

00:20:40   people who have some kind of an interesting relationship with the carson [TS]

00:20:43   show show [TS]

00:20:45   was great so people like Jeff Altman people like you know by Stein you know [TS]

00:20:49   Super Dave just all kinds of people and then and then like George Carlin's [TS]

00:20:53   daughter was on but it's it's a great insight into what you and I know which [TS]

00:20:58   is like what an inscrutable person he was everybody says the same thing it was [TS]

00:21:03   great was the greatest on you ever have but nobody is a two or three people who [TS]

00:21:06   ever felt the illegitimate we knew johnny carson yeah you read the [TS]

00:21:10   biography that is that we talked about that at one time we talked about that [TS]

00:21:13   PBS show that was great the PBS masters that was terrific [TS]

00:21:18   that was the best again and they didn't really tried to get to the person you [TS]

00:21:24   know i mean they acknowledged it and they talked to so many so many people it [TS]

00:21:29   was such a great thing to PBS master think it was just kind of like like [TS]

00:21:33   Citizen Kane where everybody like new you know had the same regard for this [TS]

00:21:38   purpose but never really felt like they knew what made him tick you know so you [TS]

00:21:42   know how much of that podcast it's it's pretty good [TS]

00:21:45   the book something I mean look it up here [TS]

00:21:51   biography Henry sounds like he you know he dropped the show hehe ok there we go [TS]

00:22:00   and he would never talk before the show they would be just a little bit right [TS]

00:22:05   now just nobody would not talk to the guess he would get the car in driveway [TS]

00:22:08   was it henry pushkin book is uncomfortable to me because clearly it's [TS]

00:22:18   a betrayal of trust like there's no way he should be telling story is it is [TS]

00:22:23   unauthorized oh yeah I mean how could it be authorizing course instead but I mean [TS]

00:22:28   I don't think his family would and I think if you would ask johnnie while he [TS]

00:22:31   was alive would you like henry bushkin to you know right above us [TS]

00:22:35   certainly not right but on the other hand he did write it so you know but I [TS]

00:22:39   kind of felt I did I felt lonely time but there's some crazy stories in there [TS]

00:22:44   there's one story where it was [TS]

00:22:48   wife or it was just a girlfriend I think it might have been his wife and he [TS]

00:22:52   johnnie thought is one of his earlier wives this is when the show is still in [TS]

00:22:56   New York and he lived in New York he figured out his wife was running around [TS]

00:22:59   on him and he wanted to break into the apartment it was her apartment he was [TS]

00:23:04   paying for it she said itself it's got to be leon paying for it so it illegal [TS]

00:23:08   for breaking in and he got henry bush's took his lawyer with them and like two [TS]

00:23:13   guys who could only really be described as stuff's blogs and like this and says [TS]

00:23:20   in the book that the one guy even had a gun tucked in his belt and they go over [TS]

00:23:24   there and like break into the place in trying to find evidence that she was [TS]

00:23:27   running around on him but you know it's like stories again you don't pay your [TS]

00:23:32   lawyer to write a book about that's why he take a look at his lawyer that wrote [TS]

00:23:37   the book that's that's the cricket man you know it's a good read it's a good [TS]

00:23:46   quick read but its requesting for the library right now this is a guy you know [TS]

00:23:50   we needed some money I think [TS]

00:23:52   sure but it was you know but he but I guess the thing i woulda made me think [TS]

00:23:56   about it is that he was obviously was more than just his lawyer that he became [TS]

00:24:00   as close friend is anybody could to him they played tennis together they were [TS]

00:24:04   both tennis not and they used to travel to I remember the Johnny did this summer [TS]

00:24:10   break to watch tennis on TV sometimes but johnnie would always like four years [TS]

00:24:14   had an annual trip he would go to Wimbledon and henry bushkin and his wife [TS]

00:24:18   went with them it was like Johnny and his wife and his wife every year for [TS]

00:24:23   like 15 years they went to England for like two or three weeks so when they [TS]

00:24:28   were definitely close but even then even being that close that you vacationed [TS]

00:24:31   with Johnny Carson for a couple of weeks every year at a he's still clearly [TS]

00:24:35   didn't really know and I think Pat McCormick the comment publicly mchugh I [TS]

00:24:39   think it worked on the show and was on a lot also was another [TS]

00:24:43   but even in interviews of the biggest but it's a lot like when you hear people [TS]

00:24:49   talk about sinatra you know where they're also mister sinatra and like [TS]

00:24:52   this deference like a come back from the grave and get you act like this dish [TS]

00:24:55   still a lot of deference to join me in the end desire to keep his legacy [TS]

00:25:00   you know clean extent possible yeah I must feel i mean you know not having [TS]

00:25:04   never seen a guy in person but my impression is maybe that like he just [TS]

00:25:09   had was like a one in a one billion freak where the real Johnny Carson was [TS]

00:25:15   the one who was on for 60 minutes in front of a camera sitting at a desk like [TS]

00:25:19   that really was him and that it was the other 23 hours of his life where there [TS]

00:25:24   was no yeah I mean he's a he's a comic book character right i mean you know [TS]

00:25:29   where Bruce Wayne is the secret I you know what i mean it's like batman is the [TS]

00:25:34   real guy in some ways and Brianne yeah exactly right and I feel like jet that [TS]

00:25:38   might have been Johnny Carson and I feel like you know that's what made him so [TS]

00:25:43   inscrutable and off camera to take a break to tell you about sponsor I'm very [TS]

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00:28:03   off that's a lot of money that's a lot of percent yeah so go check them out [TS]

00:28:08   it's really cold very and very very beautiful too great website really [TS]

00:28:12   really really proud of that guy and India so I kind of hate him a little bit [TS]

00:28:16   but he's still he's doing is amazing [TS]

00:28:21   like what he's done in such a short period of time i think is about 14 years [TS]

00:28:25   old and he's he's half English so he's he's gotten past that and it's it's [TS]

00:28:30   still astonishing to me like guys manage to do that you know when his first [TS]

00:28:35   describe these projects to me and just seems a bit more and more coming in all [TS]

00:28:39   the time [TS]

00:28:40   you know as a cool sounds like a store like a small store but it's been a big [TS]

00:28:47   hit [TS]

00:28:47   it's it's really frustrating and I do too I do because I feel like I don't [TS]

00:28:57   know I like it cuz it real I feel like the things that impressed me as people [TS]

00:29:00   come up with new ideas for businesses and you know I like the ones to have [TS]

00:29:07   something that you can touch the way we gotta buy my film for virtual camera I [TS]

00:29:14   think a judge not though right like that's not really the company I would [TS]

00:29:19   say I would actually say that the spectrum of things that tend to be most [TS]

00:29:23   interested in [TS]

00:29:24   are on the one side are real physical things like somebody who's making iPhone [TS]

00:29:29   docks out of blocks of wood right I don't like them all but I mean you know [TS]

00:29:35   something like that we're making a real thing and you're doing the ruling and [TS]

00:29:39   then the ones I likely would have to be the virtual fake real-world constraints [TS]

00:29:44   you know the some of the other kinds of services that are out there are so we [TS]

00:29:51   are as I get more and more cynical about everything and a little bit more frisky [TS]

00:29:56   about things like privacy let me just say stuff coming down the lane like [TS]

00:30:00   there's this thing you ever every block number did you get that sure that was [TS]

00:30:05   Steven Johnson and listen to some minor work done that amazing service super [TS]

00:30:11   clean beautiful website that would be aggregated all kinds of mostly public [TS]

00:30:16   information about the police activity safety I mean anything that you you [TS]

00:30:21   couldn't care less for any neighborhood etc but in your neighborhood you really [TS]

00:30:24   care and it's like I went in I saw one time I called the cops about something [TS]

00:30:28   and I could find that on the website it was really really cool but I think they [TS]

00:30:32   contracted to be in only a few contracted as in like she can suck down [TS]

00:30:36   to be just in a few cities now is cropping up my wife got me to get on [TS]

00:30:40   this one in our neighborhood just it's [TS]

00:30:43   so it's one of those things where you you sign up and you gotta like give them [TS]

00:30:48   tons of information they were your phone number they want to send a postcard your [TS]

00:30:52   house to verify that you are you fine and then they automatically put your [TS]

00:30:55   address on the website and in every page or on their our call to action and [TS]

00:31:00   popups telling you to go invite more people it asked you to like you know [TS]

00:31:04   bring in all of your on the one hand they're real careful when making sure [TS]

00:31:07   who you are but then it's one of those paths kind of thing where they like how [TS]

00:31:11   do you uninstall you bring in all your contacts in your Facebook people just [TS]

00:31:14   like I am increasingly super uncomfortable with that as a business [TS]

00:31:18   model it's gross as soon as they asked me for it I closed the window I [TS]

00:31:23   immediately think well that's their business model yeah yeah and I mean [TS]

00:31:28   there's some kind of things like Google I mean like opening that Google App [TS]

00:31:32   especially when I'm outta town as a town last week it's the kind of blows my mind [TS]

00:31:35   how smart Google is I know their Google boat but like they if there's anybody [TS]

00:31:40   out there who is providing value for the nonsense they do you gotta give credit [TS]

00:31:44   like his ass if you're traveling to there's the temperature hey here's your [TS]

00:31:47   flight the just came in via this by email at that kind of stuff you know I [TS]

00:31:51   wish there were better with the privacy stuff in some ways but that's a real [TS]

00:31:55   value they've done something very innovative to be able to do that its [TS]

00:31:58   scale but you can just be on some of these websites we just tell that they're [TS]

00:32:02   young it's a new company and all about building the user base and then [TS]

00:32:07   leveraging as much personal information as possible and that's kind of a boring [TS]

00:32:10   thing to get into but I find that I find that really kind of gross and [TS]

00:32:14   frustrating enough of my stuff is out there I don't need to go sign up for [TS]

00:32:18   free services are gonna do that did you see there was an article I forget the [TS]

00:32:25   guys name couple weeks ago [TS]

00:32:30   the tradeoff between if you if you give Google everything they want to know [TS]

00:32:40   about you and buy into their stuff you get a tremendous experience out of it [TS]

00:32:46   but if you've got an Android phone and you use the whole ecosystem in the [TS]

00:32:50   absolute right like you know and like you said like and it definitely works I [TS]

00:32:55   mean I don't buy into this is certainly come a long way right but its cool stuff [TS]

00:33:03   like if you're using Gmail and you let you know then then you get your flight [TS]

00:33:07   stuff into your Gmail and then they already know your flight because they [TS]

00:33:11   already parsed the email from your airline that says you're doing it and [TS]

00:33:15   then your today view already has like you said how's the weather for San [TS]

00:33:19   Francisco because that's where I imply I just gotta pop up yesterday it's like [TS]

00:33:24   this shirt that you ordered for a short order from a kid like it just shipped [TS]

00:33:27   via FedEx number that's actually pretty useful yeah that's pretty awesome so i [TS]

00:33:33   mean but it it it's like you said though like I'm a little wary of it but at [TS]

00:33:41   least with Google [TS]

00:33:43   exchanges very clear its ok you're gonna give up some of your privacy and they're [TS]

00:33:48   going to start going to send you targeted ads and that makes me a little [TS]

00:33:52   uncomfortable but an exchange there's there's a very clear value proposition [TS]

00:33:56   oh it's you know we know so you know we're gonna give you stuff that you need [TS]

00:33:59   to know that your weather and reminders of things that you didn't even ask to be [TS]

00:34:04   reminded of but they would need to and I think that's pretty interesting whereas [TS]

00:34:08   with a lot of these startups it's like they want the information you know [TS]

00:34:12   they're going to sell out as I have no idea why would why would I give this to [TS]

00:34:16   you right right right right yeah absolutely end anyway it's probably get [TS]

00:34:21   into but you know then you look at something like uber where did you see [TS]

00:34:24   the thing where [TS]

00:34:26   they had their lost and found databases like them protected spreadsheet on the [TS]

00:34:30   people's names and phone numbers and it no I did not like wow that's pretty [TS]

00:34:35   rough the sharing economy thing is is super interesting to me because I I'm [TS]

00:34:43   kind of surprised really I'm very surprised the stuff has gotten as far as [TS]

00:34:47   it has a USB 10 years ago let me live in a neighborhood where it's very difficult [TS]

00:34:51   to get a cab anytime and I've cursed the cab companies forever because they don't [TS]

00:34:56   give a fig they don't need to they can just drive you know up and down Polk [TS]

00:34:59   Street and make all the money in the world drive to the airport there's no [TS]

00:35:01   mean that's how it works and in a city but I never would have guessed that they [TS]

00:35:06   would get away with that here you know what i mean it's such a strong kind of [TS]

00:35:09   Uniontown some ways such a strong town for like people who are protected [TS]

00:35:15   you know interest like with the medallions and stuff has got as far as [TS]

00:35:19   it has I am too I didn't know I didn't realize that and I summit wheat and I we [TS]

00:35:26   could do if there was an article like lift start just started here in Philly [TS]

00:35:30   and the article about left with about how the whole thing like all the Hoover [TS]

00:35:35   although prison Philly are illegal they're not supposed to be operating in [TS]

00:35:40   Philly will have news to me I've been using over in Philly for like two years [TS]

00:35:43   I had no idea it just seems like one low-level government functionary could [TS]

00:35:49   walk into that office to show off the lights but like so they can mean black [TS]

00:35:53   cars are obviously legal but not based on it or not through the air regulated I [TS]

00:35:59   mean I guess I don't know what it is but there's something like we have to [TS]

00:36:03   practice now too so we have the you know amateur cabdriver some very interesting [TS]

00:36:09   people and their whole thing was about how left in a lift Scott the the pink [TS]

00:36:14   mustaches on the large which makes them so easy to identify so because they're [TS]

00:36:18   illegal like that but it's not enforced by the police it's enforced by the [TS]

00:36:23   Parking Authority the long arm of the Parking Authority right but I've read [TS]

00:36:29   stories I don't have these are true but I've heard anecdotes but people are Lake [TS]

00:36:32   get in now put your put back in the truck were friends we've known each [TS]

00:36:35   other since college [TS]

00:36:36   you know the lived experiences still a little little on the bubble yeah I'm not [TS]

00:36:45   comfortable with it [TS]

00:36:46   yeah yeah yeah I'm not either but you know I hear the paper we could go about [TS]

00:36:54   how I mean I find this totally plausible [TS]

00:36:58   drivers are making like something like on average ten dollars an hour or more [TS]

00:37:01   in taxi drivers under diaspora of people leaving his taxi companies to go work [TS]

00:37:08   for it [TS]

00:37:11   yeah I have done that and when I first started using the bird was in San [TS]

00:37:14   Francisco because you know those early days when it was new and I don't know [TS]

00:37:18   where that and maybe that was the only place where they were operating but I [TS]

00:37:23   remember thinking wow this sounds weird right [TS]

00:37:25   the sound weird but I'll try it and a member like first couple of times I got [TS]

00:37:29   the number I would ask the driver as a city how do you like this deal like this [TS]

00:37:32   and to have never never was the answer anything other than I love it [TS]

00:37:36   this is you know this is great oh absolutely [TS]

00:37:40   and whereas if I get a cab ride that's the story elsewhere but a recent last [TS]

00:37:44   month I got a cab ride home from a gig and the entire time the guy had his [TS]

00:37:48   right arm on the seat turning around facing me the entire trip screaming [TS]

00:37:53   anti-war activists entire ride like three sheets to the wind just trying to [TS]

00:37:59   put my headphones on and not and he really wasn't talked about over and it's [TS]

00:38:03   been drawn I tried using that happens you know [TS]

00:38:07   curb you have that they're now I don't introduce an appt with the san Francisco [TS]

00:38:11   is the go-to app for ordering a cab in Andover like way I try to three times [TS]

00:38:18   and waiting 10 minutes I've never even got a response that account but even be [TS]

00:38:22   available but just because I live out in kind of a crazy part of town so I mean [TS]

00:38:26   it's it's I don't love you can either in the kind of seemed like dicks I mean [TS]

00:38:31   there's some pretty crazy decisions going here's what we've got this is our [TS]

00:38:39   new thing is 215 get a cab ok it's it's clearly like [TS]

00:38:46   the various cab companies have colluded to get a min included in a legal way but [TS]

00:38:54   it's time yeah it's it's it's it's in response to its is no doubt about it is [TS]

00:39:02   in response to get plastered all over all of their at all of their vehicles [TS]

00:39:12   the thing that's funny to me those who wait to get the app right [TS]

00:39:15   get the app in the App have the app afford occurs do you need a cab cuz you [TS]

00:39:20   drunk and in an alley somewhere like what you do is download an app like you [TS]

00:39:24   need to have it on your phone already in its a new thing but they've come up with [TS]

00:39:27   the name is phone number like it's still dat gotta go over you know [TS]

00:39:33   quarter give you a quarter I got a call to get the cash you can just imagine the [TS]

00:39:38   meeting with the app it's got to be the phone number it's their their their [TS]

00:39:44   website is 215 get a cab DR number of mine in early 2000 when you know the [TS]

00:39:53   dot-com had already started the doc coming retail dot com dot com and always [TS]

00:39:57   clearly like things were a little rocky but there are more more places that we [TS]

00:40:00   wanted to look like an e-business and I think a lot of a basically just like the [TS]

00:40:05   CGI reproach scripted sensibly your fax machine going to fill out a form did not [TS]

00:40:10   have any sense that anything electronic what's happening at all like today where [TS]

00:40:15   you can I track things and stuff like that I think it used to be pretty rube [TS]

00:40:18   goldberg to starting to like the idea that I think it was probably was true [TS]

00:40:23   that a lot of places where you could order online [TS]

00:40:25   it would generate a fax now if you want a lot of food online does is print [TS]

00:40:30   something out I mean obviously that's that's the installed base you know it's [TS]

00:40:34   just something unless the cash register [TS]

00:40:39   should I buy back scenes well if we talk if we end up I was telling a friend of [TS]

00:40:53   mine what are nominal topic for today was very excited about and my friend [TS]

00:40:58   respondents say you were gonna get so much might as well jamming all in one [TS]

00:41:04   episode yeah vaccines so the thing that got me about vaccines with it being back [TS]

00:41:10   in the news again is is like it everywhere in outright it solve its [TS]

00:41:17   percolate up to like the national consciousness and it's on the news every [TS]

00:41:21   day now and I was like why why all of a sudden this is not a new thing I mean [TS]

00:41:25   this is a state only a story if there's a controversy right that's the thing I [TS]

00:41:29   don't just go these people are dumbasses will have to say well there's still a [TS]

00:41:33   couple scientists haven't definitely decided on this its and I realized it's [TS]

00:41:38   obvious it's all because actual people got actual measles Disneyland and I [TS]

00:41:44   didn't really put it i saw this story and I thought well of course there did [TS]

00:41:48   because there's a bunch of dopes who aren't getting there do so many people [TS]

00:41:51   getting their kids immunized of course there's an outbreak of I wasn't so I was [TS]

00:41:56   so on surprised that there was an outbreak of measles at Disneyland that I [TS]

00:42:01   it seems like a perfect place for there to be a measles outbreak given the [TS]

00:42:04   conditions I couldn't believe that it was news you know whereas it's clearly [TS]

00:42:08   is like the eyeopener people God you don't you don't get your kids it seems [TS]

00:42:14   like that's a big part of the conversation is holy shit if millions of [TS]

00:42:18   people don't immunize their kids these kids can get measles like that seems to [TS]

00:42:24   be our national conversation is really frustrating it's yeah I saw an [TS]

00:42:33   interesting poll on by by age whether you support mandatory immunization and [TS]

00:42:40   it drops off so precipitously it's like 70 year olds it's like almost universal [TS]

00:42:45   support sixty year old very high [TS]

00:42:46   5040 kind of like when you get your forties and thirties its lower and talk [TS]

00:42:52   to kids in their twenties and it's like they do you know take fifteen percent [TS]

00:42:56   support mandatory that doesn't mean that they don't think people should do it [TS]

00:42:59   they're just saying should be managed but I think that the reason that it [TS]

00:43:03   ain't like reading to your kid that's where it's a good idea but we have to do [TS]

00:43:08   that have to do that I don't have to give me the reason it's a specific [TS]

00:43:14   though is so obvious it's because older people remember what it's like when your [TS]

00:43:18   neighbor had polio right there may be made to the depression and watched a [TS]

00:43:23   neighbor a one-sided them lose three kids or a sibling even write my [TS]

00:43:30   grandmother to flew in the I think around world war one right so they've so [TS]

00:43:38   high and they can always so scientists come out with just a shot that makes [TS]

00:43:43   your arm sore for a day and then you'll never get polio of course a subordinate [TS]

00:43:48   yeah I don't know I i'm quite right so hard to grow as a person John I'm trying [TS]

00:43:55   really hard to to be sympathetic and understand everybody's position but it's [TS]

00:44:01   what we talked two years ago about the things you told me this poll that [TS]

00:44:06   something was was a percentage of people who were a thoroughly convinced that [TS]

00:44:09   Obama is not eligible to be President even late late late in that linda in [TS]

00:44:16   that rumor it was still a 40% or something ridiculous of people and it's [TS]

00:44:21   like there's the thing is there is you know there's been reading this book [TS]

00:44:27   apparently mention every podcast called other was given security by Alan Watts [TS]

00:44:32   and he makes a distinction that book that really really hit me in faith and [TS]

00:44:36   belief which I found very persuasive with the idea that you know faith is a [TS]

00:44:41   thing that we all have our sight unseen things that we there's some part of us [TS]

00:44:46   to have faith that the discussion or whatever [TS]

00:44:50   which is really different from belief his belief is kind of a more dangerous [TS]

00:44:52   thing is belief is where you know there's not really that much to even [TS]

00:44:57   discuss like I've decided that this is how things are and nothing is gonna talk [TS]

00:45:02   me out of this because now become part of Who I am now I am a person who [TS]

00:45:05   believes this about vaccines we're pleased about Obama and you know that [TS]

00:45:10   can become very internalize you and I probably have things like that not even [TS]

00:45:13   aware of but that's the dangerous part and there's no about what we do liberals [TS]

00:45:18   to understand is there's no way they're never going to be enough info graphics [TS]

00:45:21   and diagrams [TS]

00:45:23   horrifying maps to convince people of anything different [TS]

00:45:26   Jesus Christ we had george W bush in the White House three years people believe [TS]

00:45:30   anything but one of the things that's interesting about the whole immunization [TS]

00:45:36   things race and for anybody who do have enough listeners I'm sure that there's [TS]

00:45:40   got to be some of you who just two computers [TS]

00:45:43   stick to computers have children chosen not to immunize I didn't one of the [TS]

00:45:48   things that's all I want to be a big person I want to be as I don't be [TS]

00:45:53   insulted but I didn't have his fasting about it is that it it has no [TS]

00:45:58   traditional political divide its not a liberal thing or a Republican thing or a [TS]

00:46:03   conservative thing or a rural thing it's like all over the map it's you know it [TS]

00:46:09   when a poll I saw one poll that was exactly 50 50 were like they talked to [TS]

00:46:14   her know however full sample size number of parents who chose not to immunize [TS]

00:46:19   their children and who did you vote for in the last election and it was like 50 [TS]

00:46:23   50 split really do you think the reasons why they differ for different with agree [TS]

00:46:30   on the reason why they decide not to do that I you know I don't know but I [TS]

00:46:35   remember one of the big reasons that it really caught on was I remember reading [TS]

00:46:39   the article it was Robert F Kennedy junior wrote like a feature magazine [TS]

00:46:44   linked article on earth is for the Atlantic or one of those magazines like [TS]

00:46:48   that you know back when there was that one ingredient in the you know that they [TS]

00:46:55   were thought to be worried about that [TS]

00:46:59   Jonas was around that date and it was at the height of it [TS]

00:47:02   it was I think when Jonas was just turned eleven so I think when Jonas was [TS]

00:47:08   getting this his first year [TS]

00:47:10   immunizations was before I think it was before that one paper in Britain had [TS]

00:47:17   been developed over the last set right I think it was before so it was definitely [TS]

00:47:22   you know it was a thing and I know we were little you know why I didn't really [TS]

00:47:27   put dreams into a but you know I was it was I just remember it being a thing we [TS]

00:47:32   talked about we we ask we ask a lot of questions for sure and they were very [TS]

00:47:38   sober about it in action on the patient like you have to be with a new parent [TS]

00:47:42   does he know we pretty much knew words can have the one kids like we don't get [TS]

00:47:45   a lot of shots at this to speak and we it was important to us to know that kind [TS]

00:47:52   of stuff I don't feel dumb for asking those questions because they were very [TS]

00:47:54   they were the doctor was very straightforward about it's the same [TS]

00:47:58   thing that people understand which is like there's risks to everything in life [TS]

00:48:03   but we can tell you is the risks associated with vaccinations are nothing [TS]

00:48:08   compared with D very demonstrable risk of not yet as an individual I think [TS]

00:48:15   there is a risk analysis cost benefit it's it's it's not even a right and then [TS]

00:48:20   I you know especially when it comes to your kid I think it's it's almost human [TS]

00:48:25   instinct at least in our modern world where we're we're very as parents were [TS]

00:48:29   very selfish about our children that we want will do anything for orkut and you [TS]

00:48:35   know it if you could prove that your kid might be better off without as an [TS]

00:48:40   individual would be better off without him in this nation's versus the whole [TS]

00:48:44   civic responsibility the herd herd advantage of getting everybody immunized [TS]

00:48:50   I can see it and I think that's the basic thinking that's going on behind [TS]

00:48:54   the people who chose not to immunize their children that their they value you [TS]

00:48:58   know that they believe some kind of bad things can happen [TS]

00:49:01   from the right and regardless of what it means for the sticky idea that's a very [TS]

00:49:06   durable idea whether or not it's true or accurate I can certainly understand why [TS]

00:49:11   it's something that that I mean I don't agree with it but I get why that's [TS]

00:49:15   something that people feel is a big risk you know but think about this i mean [TS]

00:49:19   this is something I think we all have a feeling I have a lot in common with [TS]

00:49:23   other people which is in I've grown so I'm skeptical so cynical about all the [TS]

00:49:29   turns out announcements about what's dangerous and you know there's been [TS]

00:49:32   numerous you know articles over the years talking about the crazy history of [TS]

00:49:36   stuff like the the food pyramid read the USDA Food Pyramid [TS]

00:49:42   the food pyramid like in the seventies make sure you have tons and tons of [TS]

00:49:46   bread and you know what I mean [TS]

00:49:48   and it was very much apparently very much formed by these different [TS]

00:49:54   industries not to be like another something but your body was never meant [TS]

00:49:58   to handle this much corn my god that was supposed to jam this much corn into [TS]

00:50:02   their whole it's nuts and they want a pacific Golf at the enemy ok so quit [TS]

00:50:06   eating eggs alright so let's have snack wells sorry we sit around and eat [TS]

00:50:11   fat-free brownies with three cups of sugar in it oh wait a minute now it [TS]

00:50:13   turns out sugar is actually any and so forth [TS]

00:50:16   look no further back than last decade look at sucking water bottles did you [TS]

00:50:22   follow this at all what used to be [TS]

00:50:24   you're like oh you're killing the environment with all these cups so for [TS]

00:50:27   god sakes go out and buy a Nalgene bottle and you had to have another [TS]

00:50:29   bottle bottle this stupid plastic bottles oh no guess what turns out that [TS]

00:50:34   waits oh my gosh you're going to die because you doing the right thing by [TS]

00:50:38   this kind of an apple saying maybe those aluminum ones to be used to replace [TS]

00:50:42   ineligible is about you know when the trouble is it doesn't it kind of doesn't [TS]

00:50:46   matter what is actually true accurate accurate or known what matters is we are [TS]

00:50:51   scared to herself and her kids and we're always gonna try and how the most recent [TS]

00:50:55   information that we can find out what we should do about it [TS]

00:50:59   plastic in the microwave anymore like what you put in the microwave thing out [TS]

00:51:04   of my makeup cold to warm something up on that fucking monster [TS]

00:51:11   I remember coaching Little League couple years ago I i do I am familiar with the [TS]

00:51:16   whole water bottle and I had something to do with Ali's [TS]

00:51:20   I know baby boomer baby bottles and phthalates I it's like a made me feel [TS]

00:51:26   like time traveling dad from the nineteen fifties you know I'm just [TS]

00:51:31   trying to make sure none of these kids get hit in the mouth with a baseball [TS]

00:51:34   right number one I don't want anybody getting hit in the head with a baseball [TS]

00:51:39   it's a constant fear you've got twelve kids and at some point at least two of [TS]

00:51:44   the 12 invariably are not paying attention to the game and therefore at [TS]

00:51:48   risk of getting hit in the head with a baseball which is bad so it's you know [TS]

00:51:52   everything we can all agree on that every game is two hours of non-stop 95% [TS]

00:51:57   of my attention is don't let any of these kids get hit by a baseball than 5% [TS]

00:52:01   of my attention is lets you know trying to score some runs and get some outs and [TS]

00:52:05   maybe win the game and in the meantime there's this whole thing with the other [TS]

00:52:08   all the other I'm not just moms moms and dads and are all talking about the [TS]

00:52:12   bottle that bottles [TS]

00:52:15   everybody's an expert and I'm just like just give the kids they have water i [TS]

00:52:20   dont know when I was a kid we just we just had to finish each game with like [TS]

00:52:23   50 of those little [TS]

00:52:26   sure the people in the water cups conical paper cup on the field [TS]

00:52:32   totally totally and I mean you know it is funny given like how you and I [TS]

00:52:42   already come from kind of a paper generation in so many ways we're [TS]

00:52:46   probably the last generation that has a chance of doing better than I but for a [TS]

00:52:51   while anyway but you know I mention this alot but like some of my I'm not okay [TS]

00:52:56   guys I'm not advocating for this but I have such a really think about this one [TS]

00:53:00   time just having this memory of our old green Pontiac my dad made a driving [TS]

00:53:05   around smoking but with the windows down and he's like standing on the seat like [TS]

00:53:10   to stick your head out the window you just gotta be kidding me to even have [TS]

00:53:14   seat belts [TS]

00:53:15   you know and now today doesn't do anything without a helmet and that's [TS]

00:53:19   that's on me and I want to protect her head [TS]

00:53:21   said that it is it is pretty in it is pretty wild how many people managed to [TS]

00:53:25   survive that now at the same time trying to explain to the best of my ability [TS]

00:53:31   how would the world population isn't how it works for us and make it like ok with [TS]

00:53:35   things like what [TS]

00:53:36   117 people so that they can you guess whether keeps going up and answer well [TS]

00:53:42   you know one of them is when I mean that is get together what happens to babies [TS]

00:53:46   and babies grow up in a bit what happens they have like three kids and kids think [TS]

00:53:53   it is like to our credit I think people die of less completely preventable [TS]

00:54:00   random shit then when I was a kid I I got to stipulate thank God for seatbelts [TS]

00:54:06   they've made the roads safer the cars are safer it all saver everybody knew [TS]

00:54:09   somebody that it died in a car accident when I was a kid is just the thing it [TS]

00:54:13   was cancer and car accidents killed and lung disease like killed everybody and [TS]

00:54:18   they're all at least partially preventable [TS]

00:54:21   huge toy huge swath of car accidents are preventable blindness about there's the [TS]

00:54:26   whole if you seen the footage you had to add that the difference in the crumple [TS]

00:54:31   zones of an old car new car it's it's almost farcical yeah no man's driver's [TS]

00:54:37   movies I still think about it I've never unbuckled a dead man my mom my mom [TS]

00:54:44   Pontiac dealership he took it to a mechanic and said look we bought this [TS]

00:54:49   $1,000 car and it beeps when we sit in and if we don't put on the seat belts [TS]

00:54:53   can turn that off he said yes I just leave it to you leave it like that and [TS]

00:55:00   all the time my sister and I were not allowed to use the sheep because we [TS]

00:55:05   would mess them up [TS]

00:55:07   as you know you like they wouldn't retract right anymore you know you [TS]

00:55:11   getting around pretty basic the way that it would retract you can I get off the [TS]

00:55:17   runner like off the spool and it wouldn't go back and write some point [TS]

00:55:21   one of us had gotten one of the ones in the backseat twisted in the you know the [TS]

00:55:26   the actual belt was twisted in the what would you call a little cartridge kind [TS]

00:55:30   of the cartridge that would slide to make you mean they were really primitive [TS]

00:55:34   they didn't snap into place very well it was very easy when feeding it back it [TS]

00:55:38   would be like a like a roller blind getting slightly off track at the [TS]

00:55:43   beginning way off track but at a lot do anything that similar to it anymore [TS]

00:55:47   our airplane seatbelts but it was a lot but the buckling connection was a lot [TS]

00:55:52   more primitive had the way that you could slide on the belt but we got it [TS]

00:55:55   twisted up and it took a long time to fix it and so from then on we weren't [TS]

00:56:00   allowed to use it took her 15 minutes to get him untangled so then that was it [TS]

00:56:09   felt what do you what do you think's gonna happen with the vaccine stuff do [TS]

00:56:13   you think it'll take a generation or a detective and generation or does it take [TS]

00:56:18   a measles 911 like what what do you think will change and how in the next [TS]

00:56:23   however many years I've been thinking about I don't think there's any way to [TS]

00:56:26   go back on it and you know it [TS]

00:56:29   part of it is what we were saying couple minutes ago where you can't you come out [TS]

00:56:33   like they've done studies said that you got them with the most factual [TS]

00:56:36   statistical approach out of this relative safety of immunizations and the [TS]

00:56:42   fact that you know the heart how horrible it is you know measles can can [TS]

00:56:47   make you blind killed people they said I just 446 people a day die from measles [TS]

00:56:54   around the plant something like that around the world and given these facts [TS]

00:57:00   and the people who don't want to maximize their kids get the facts and [TS]

00:57:02   they come out of it more than I did hear that you're faster slippery things and I [TS]

00:57:09   mean if somebody that you didn't trust let's be honest to somebody you didn't [TS]

00:57:13   trust that you considered to be a mouthpiece for an organization some kind [TS]

00:57:17   of like like the Laramie cigarettes guys on The Simpsons [TS]

00:57:20   if somebody came to you with some information you knew that they were [TS]

00:57:24   compromised even they gave you a day presenters facts you wouldn't listen to [TS]

00:57:28   them or you probably wouldn't go look at the primary research right you know I'm [TS]

00:57:32   the same way I know what I believe I know what I think is BS it's just that [TS]

00:57:36   it's talk about it every time that link-up book don't think of an elephant [TS]

00:57:40   if you have you have a certain mental model for how reality works and what [TS]

00:57:44   relationships are and how you determine what's real and that over riser [TS]

00:57:48   supersedes new information like bank to right I mean I mean the way that you [TS]

00:57:55   conduct yourself in the world for me n 30 some years whatever is likely have [TS]

00:58:00   such I totally buy that you know and what your family believes and what the [TS]

00:58:04   people around you believe church believe it's constantly being reinforced because [TS]

00:58:09   that's part of your tribe that's what your tribe believes and there's no [TS]

00:58:12   reason not to I mean we've all got trouble things like the stupid the [TS]

00:58:16   Dallas Cowboys you got problems your own that's part of the problem though is [TS]

00:58:20   that there is there is a sort of tribal behavior where the kids who are not [TS]

00:58:26   immunized tend to be clustered because it spreads and you become friends like [TS]

00:58:32   super buddy buddy with any other parents at school but you talk to them and you [TS]

00:58:35   know like it becomes a good thing we're like now I forget what it the [TS]

00:58:40   percentages in Marin County but it's just ridiculous [TS]

00:58:43   got a lot of weird outliers were in also has used to have far as I know that [TS]

00:58:47   improbably high rate of breast cancer and I met in his ways to come up with [TS]

00:58:54   with why that is that don't involve you know high power lines or something it [TS]

00:58:58   could be that they're getting detection better or something I don't know but the [TS]

00:59:01   camera thing I remember Scott Simpson said something made me laugh along time [TS]

00:59:08   ago when he had a kid and I didn't at the time have a kid he had backpack in [TS]

00:59:12   the hard days he says something like this to kind is like two kinds of [TS]

00:59:17   parents like there's the helicopter parents that there are more protective [TS]

00:59:22   than me and I hate them and then there's the parent certainly careless with their [TS]

00:59:25   kids and I hate them to like the way you evaluate everything is based on what you [TS]

00:59:30   think everybody else is permissive [TS]

00:59:32   or district asshole their kids an assholee [TS]

00:59:40   guys choose and then there's the kiddies you know recognize that these parents [TS]

00:59:46   there may be executed two minutes he's come on get it it's a jungle gym let the [TS]

00:59:50   kids play oh my god I can't believe you let him get on the jet which are even do [TS]

00:59:58   with what we want to talk about later Lee with movies like I cannot believe [TS]

01:00:02   they let their kids watch that or I can't believe that they don't want to [TS]

01:00:06   let him watch Harry Potter you know oh this is this is what makes it a text [TS]

01:00:11   about this morning and we're not getting into it just now that you know the way [TS]

01:00:14   to phrase this my daughter will come back to this list like it's it's not [TS]

01:00:18   just a matter of like you know me I like I like facet I like this problem [TS]

01:00:22   enticing I like to sing it seems obvious and figuring out how to actually a mess [TS]

01:00:25   and so like with kids in media it's not just like what you show your kids it's [TS]

01:00:30   like it's like well what kind of stuff do you show your particular kid at what [TS]

01:00:36   point in their life in what context etcetera etcetera etcetera [TS]

01:00:41   because we all know every kids really different I mean anybody with two kids [TS]

01:00:44   to 10 people who say Google this kind of company Apple's this kind of company if [TS]

01:00:48   you said to them your three kids are identical they hit in the face while the [TS]

01:00:52   kids are special flowers so I don't come back to that by bringing a lot of you [TS]

01:00:58   take a break us take a break and thank another one of our sponsors good friends [TS]

01:01:04   at Harry's you guys know how is there the people who make top-notch men's [TS]

01:01:10   shaving stuff they've got raisers they've got razor handles they've got [TS]

01:01:16   product you know like shaving cream shaving gel after shave that kind of [TS]

01:01:20   stuff and the basic just behind their story is that they looked at the market [TS]

01:01:28   for razors and shaving stuff and saw that it was a mess it's stuff that ugly [TS]

01:01:34   it's tough that overpriced it's stuff that the pain in the ass tube I gotta go [TS]

01:01:38   hit a button and as somebody to come over the key to let you please if I [TS]

01:01:42   could I please have some razor blades [TS]

01:01:43   it's like when you member to member when they are compact storage used to live in [TS]

01:01:51   seven times a day and when I go there to buy some condemn razor blades and I am [TS]

01:01:54   harry's user now to be honest but when I going there to get like a fit some [TS]

01:01:58   traveling and I want to be clear is with me I go there and the same dangerous kid [TS]

01:02:02   that I C seven times a day and say how could I please have the this is such a [TS]

01:02:07   $75 worth of blades please check out no I'm like no I would walk on the storm [TS]

01:02:12   still suffer while we know he's got to walk me right that the system manager [TS]

01:02:17   was to walk me to the counter so that I don't steal his precious Gillette's no I [TS]

01:02:23   i went time I had to I was in your neck of the woods I was in San Francisco for [TS]

01:02:30   one of these Apple events or something like that and i forgot my toothbrush [TS]

01:02:33   well that's the sort of thing I I cannot I think not brushing your teeth for two [TS]

01:02:39   or three days in your mouth would feel you got it I guess I probably should [TS]

01:02:43   just call down the front desk at the hotel encinas they could do it but I [TS]

01:02:46   thought why I gotta go out anyway and I went on right there on Market Street [TS]

01:02:49   what is it is it is [TS]

01:02:51   Africa you know but I go in there and the condom toothbrushes were locked [TS]

01:02:57   behind us what ya cuz I guess people still want to buy dinner yesterday all [TS]

01:03:04   the dealer it was under lock and key so awesome kids come over and unlock a [TS]

01:03:09   little [TS]

01:03:09   jail to open air for me then walked me to the counter like an animal and they [TS]

01:03:14   wonder why we buy our stuff but anyway [TS]

01:03:16   harry's has this fixed it's great stuff they keep expanding their line they've [TS]

01:03:22   got new stuff so you haven't checked him out more I'll go there they have a new [TS]

01:03:25   line limited edition raisers the gym each in line they're inspired by Jimmy [TS]

01:03:32   genders I never heard before but he's an explorer and photographer is a prequel [TS]

01:03:37   photos from them but some new limited edition line of [TS]

01:03:42   raisers really really cool looking they have great stuff they also have they [TS]

01:03:46   have these subscriptions I don't know they can't shave plant you go there and [TS]

01:03:50   you tell them how often you shave shave everyday to shave once a week telling [TS]

01:03:55   how often you shave and then you get a plan that will just have new stuff [TS]

01:04:00   show up on a regular basis right when you need it and you can cancel anytime [TS]

01:04:05   you want to grow beards and stop shaving want to switch to another brand new just [TS]

01:04:08   cancel at anytime [TS]

01:04:10   Tonks 44 raisers really so i mean for example I i've i've bought coffee like [TS]

01:04:17   once in the last year this was a good one stretch where I'd gotten ahead of my [TS]

01:04:22   talks and needed to go buy it I don't buy razors and shaving it just shows up [TS]

01:04:28   on a regular basis from Harry's really great stuff and they have a special deal [TS]

01:04:33   for listeners of the show the code is talk show just TLK SH 0 W and that will [TS]

01:04:44   save you five bucks on your first or so it's only good for people who are making [TS]

01:04:49   their first order if you're already a customer just go and renewals and [TS]

01:04:53   improve plant sorry but if you're new avenues to yet use the code talk show [TS]

01:04:59   know that and you'll save five bucks and you can get a kit for like 15 bucks so [TS]

01:05:03   you don't like 1000 for 10 bucks you can tell the upgrade year [TS]

01:05:07   shave good people have good service you know I'm a great code could offer code [TS]

01:05:14   what would make a good I will never buy anything from assholes John Cooper for [TS]

01:05:20   sponsorships so is there is a former friend Dave over at math that he was [TS]

01:05:29   looking through this is refers is refers over at match.com they sponsored a whole [TS]

01:05:35   slew of their ships my god that was the best sponsors ever ickes still blows me [TS]

01:05:41   away what they do with the daring fire but the 400 404 page or something they [TS]

01:05:46   gave one to the one they did like three straight weeks in the water [TS]

01:05:48   was a typo and they wanted a typo in the URL so went to a 404 page is that one [TS]

01:05:57   reference to Google Analytics screenshot they posted right they had one that was [TS]

01:06:01   just the title of the link was an ellipse it's just three dots and then it [TS]

01:06:07   just said the message that only when defeated just said in this week before [TS]

01:06:12   Christmas we thought it'd be nice to take ordering fireball sponsorship and [TS]

01:06:15   not put you on anything during the holidays and they did have a link didn't [TS]

01:06:19   they signed it but they didn't link to their website there was no there was no [TS]

01:06:23   URL it just went nowhere and then the week before was the one where they had [TS]

01:06:27   the ASCII art of a guy flipping table that said Amazon upside down but with [TS]

01:06:37   those crazy Unicode characters they're happy holidays right which only made [TS]

01:06:42   sense which is cool because it only made sense if you knew the backstory [TS]

01:06:45   relationship they had that they had started woot the same guys who did woot [TS]

01:06:50   and they sold them as I read that story I think I think I did it it sounds like [TS]

01:06:59   it was not ideal yeah I was like Amazon bought them and they didn't do well they [TS]

01:07:03   weren't happy it into my game is on cared and the founder had breakfast with [TS]

01:07:11   Jeff Bezos pesos and you know what's going on and on about whatever he's like [TS]

01:07:18   look can I ask you a question is why did you buy and it was like he just stared [TS]

01:07:24   at his breakfast and there was like this 1 weird thing on his breakfast platter [TS]

01:07:29   some weird vegetable he was like your thing was like this this piece of weird [TS]

01:07:36   let us I didn't understand so I wanted to buy it I think get it so i just want [TS]

01:07:41   to buy a psycho [TS]

01:07:43   seems like he tires he seems he said the whole story of the Amazon the fire phone [TS]

01:07:50   it's just nuts [TS]

01:07:52   yeah that was some great reporting Africa talked about this on the show [TS]

01:07:56   just wandering probable but Austin Carr wrote that for Fast Company and really [TS]

01:08:02   really top notch like if you want to be alone the lack of actual reporting that [TS]

01:08:08   goes on today went to great counter example cuz he really did the legwork [TS]

01:08:11   clearly got people who worked on that phone to talk and pieces but sounds like [TS]

01:08:16   busy bees owes his passion project he drove in with both feet and I think [TS]

01:08:21   micro-managed but he like he had would not he would not go off his decisions at [TS]

01:08:26   any point right like he lose very decisive about exactly how this is gonna [TS]

01:08:30   work it wasn't yeah yeah I think long story short what how did the fire phone [TS]

01:08:36   come to be a long story short based on Austin cars reporting it was something [TS]

01:08:42   to the effect of we should do a phone if we do a phone should it should either be [TS]

01:08:47   really cheap or it should be if it's not really cheap then it has to compete with [TS]

01:08:52   the iPhone 3G it's gotta do 3d right that was like so then the next up basis [TS]

01:08:58   as I will I want to compete with the iPhone and cause I think he wanted to [TS]

01:09:01   make a funny he would actually use right so like what's the point of like them [TS]

01:09:04   making a cheap phone if they themselves are also going to use iPhones they [TS]

01:09:08   wanted to go higher and then the next step in the logical chain as well then [TS]

01:09:12   we have to have a hawk right there has to be something if we're gonna sell a [TS]

01:09:15   phone that's like for 500 bucks there has to be something that is compelling [TS]

01:09:20   about it and Bezos latched onto this 3d thing you know everybody knows the basic [TS]

01:09:25   3d interface that using accelerometers and four cameras on the front you know [TS]

01:09:31   that it can it without any special glasses and make a fake 3d effect on the [TS]

01:09:37   flat surface of the phone [TS]

01:09:39   and there was like no budging him off the dads you know that's like our Siri [TS]

01:09:44   that's our hook that we can advertise everybody's going on up for it and there [TS]

01:09:49   was apparently a lot of internal skepticism that this would have any [TS]

01:09:52   actual appeal [TS]

01:09:53   well what's the point it's a neat just a lot of the people seem to think well it [TS]

01:09:57   is a neat trick but what is the point and then the phone shipped and everybody [TS]

01:10:01   said well it's a neat trick but what's the point but he stuck with it right [TS]

01:10:06   really proud of a lot of cardboard boxes ahead said from the wildfire phone that [TS]

01:10:11   was so is the first time I got an Amazon box it that that on the tape what [TS]

01:10:16   somebody set them on fire phone I thought the same thing I thought the [TS]

01:10:20   same things every you know and I thought it was believable for me because [TS]

01:10:24   nobody's ever sent me a phone like no company but like I do get some equipment [TS]

01:10:30   to try [TS]

01:10:31   program back in the day now I was in some have gotten I got the G one from [TS]

01:10:37   Google HTC was nice enough to send me that I remember that that was fun and I [TS]

01:10:42   was in this thing or spring just they're sending bloggers like new phones every [TS]

01:10:46   few months like in the days before Americans there was around the time of [TS]

01:10:49   the iPhone and I finally got this totally crazy looking one where it had [TS]

01:10:54   screens on both sides and was kind of meant to look like an iPhone but you do [TS]

01:10:58   stuff you need to flip the phone around and use different keyboards and a touch [TS]

01:11:02   screen is totally crazy but it's not outlandish that somebody would send me [TS]

01:11:07   if I find that's what I thought it was it was a box it was a box it was about [TS]

01:11:10   the size that a phone my coming out as I cannot believe somebody sent me her [TS]

01:11:13   phone and opened it up it was Saturday toothpaste [TS]

01:11:19   all right to do it well and then we'll do it is the other way but I want to go [TS]

01:11:28   to circle back on the vaccination well not taxation to particular but to me [TS]

01:11:33   it's it's a product of the Internet age this is why I'ma little pessimistic [TS]

01:11:37   about it getting fixed because I think pre-internet you just wasn't enough [TS]

01:11:44   information for people to do that [TS]

01:11:46   like you know your best source of information on the health of your kid [TS]

01:11:49   was what your pediatrician pediatrician said we recommend these immunizations on [TS]

01:11:55   the schedule for all you know your way and then maybe you may rely on your [TS]

01:12:00   family too right [TS]

01:12:02   yeah like that and you hear about brand loyalty and how people who are pampers [TS]

01:12:05   you know the mom used camper said they use papers and we're Heinz ketchup [TS]

01:12:10   family and so forth again I think a lot of people especially young and [TS]

01:12:13   impressionable age having a kid take a lot of that from the family was here are [TS]

01:12:17   you kidding me you know you know and and Linda died because she wasn't vaccinated [TS]

01:12:21   question about your kids and it's you know that now though you know I'm not [TS]

01:12:26   that I'm not trying to say the pre-internet that nobody questioned [TS]

01:12:29   their doctor of course I mean [TS]

01:12:31   second opinion is part of our vernacular you know of course people might question [TS]

01:12:36   the doctor especially if you know the recommendations [TS]

01:12:40   surgery or something like that but now it's so easy for people to just find [TS]

01:12:44   what they want to find where she couldn't do that before and there's that [TS]

01:12:48   stencil its spray-painted stenciled all you know you can't go without saying it [TS]

01:12:52   bc it everywhere this the same stop making stupid people famous right which [TS]

01:12:58   is trying but it's true it is absolutely the problem of the modern age that we've [TS]

01:13:04   made a lot of stupid people very famous and not so filled WebMD [TS]

01:13:09   I don't think any of us can say we've never looked at WebMD we're pretty sure [TS]

01:13:13   we have cancer like you know there is also the Internet has empowered us to [TS]

01:13:18   believe that we we can learn a lot I guess is kind of what you're already [TS]

01:13:23   saying but you know now we feel it is resource in the same way that we may not [TS]

01:13:27   go spend several weeks at the library [TS]

01:13:29   you know looking at carcinoma now today like will keep funds keep looking until [TS]

01:13:33   we find the thing that makes sense to us [TS]

01:13:35   yeah and you know again the worst thing you can possibly do when you have some [TS]

01:13:40   kind of health problems google it and it's of course the first thing that we [TS]

01:13:43   all do you can't help but do it but it's the worst thing you can do it because [TS]

01:13:48   it's just gonna it now you have whatever your problem is and that you've got [TS]

01:13:51   terrible anxiety about it because you've proven that you have to know something [TS]

01:13:56   in curable if you've got into a doctor's office with the printout no I have not I [TS]

01:14:02   do not like that no 5 not saying I wouldn't though I'm not saying I [TS]

01:14:07   wouldn't understand how da me doing a lot of research I could see her being a [TS]

01:14:12   very well informed you know with kid stuff very well-informed parent on that [TS]

01:14:17   stuff yeah I think she's very serious I performed you know I you know right now [TS]

01:14:23   she's gotta get up in like you know she's like Marsh Marshall dealing with [TS]

01:14:26   that thing she does she really does know an awful lot about what I'm again I [TS]

01:14:31   don't think she'd be the first time that she does not know more than are [TS]

01:14:36   dumbasses allergist does but she certainly knows how she is too but I do [TS]

01:14:42   think that that I don't know I feel like that's a big part of the problem of the [TS]

01:14:46   modern age is that you gonna be you know there's a there's a it easy for anybody [TS]

01:14:50   to have a soapbox and get more than just the people who can you know the old days [TS]

01:15:00   if you're a lunatic only the people within earshot could hear you now and [TS]

01:15:05   yeah it's funny there's all these little setting aside the dark web in the dark [TS]

01:15:10   matter whatever is this one funny sort of sorts of information has been around [TS]

01:15:16   for a long time but still remains largely hidden from plain sight which is [TS]

01:15:21   forums or for us I guess yeah there are so many places with you google for [TS]

01:15:26   certain kinds of information all kinds of certain kinds of information you are [TS]

01:15:30   very likely to end and I just somebody suggested for example yesterday I was [TS]

01:15:34   talking yesterday I'm back to work talk about how I try not to drink too much [TS]

01:15:38   coffee you know I don't want to be spazzy in somebody had recommended [TS]

01:15:41   tell the enemy or something like that which is like a green tea extract or [TS]

01:15:45   something and so I went in and I googled it and like so many results on forums [TS]

01:15:51   where people are like saying the most outlandish things but like I kept [TS]

01:15:55   reading it I I immediately felt like you know I gotta take it with a grain of [TS]

01:16:00   salt but I still kept reading looking for somebody who sounded like they know [TS]

01:16:03   what they're talking about and I have no way of knowing if anybody knows what to [TS]

01:16:06   talk about but it's a common thing you thought I find it is I'm getting older [TS]

01:16:10   and I find that I'm getting a lot more sensitive to things like having drank [TS]

01:16:16   too much coffee and I don't think I don't think it's like I think it's [TS]

01:16:20   actually more like a self-awareness though then like not that I used to be [TS]

01:16:24   able to metabolize more it's that I would drink too much coffee and wouldn't [TS]

01:16:29   even notice [TS]

01:16:30   whereas now I'm like wow my brain is bananas right now I A I talked about [TS]

01:16:34   this a lot on the show and I i mean I have to be very circumspect about [TS]

01:16:40   something like that sounds unbelievable to me know which is that I have to be [TS]

01:16:45   very careful about how much caffeine or stimulants in general I put my body [TS]

01:16:49   after about 12 or one because they say the half way for like that your body [TS]

01:16:53   like eight hours and that's not true for me I just be late if I copy it to be [TS]

01:16:57   laying there in bed with my heart beating and so and also the other places [TS]

01:17:02   as I feel good don't always get the same positive effects that I used to get it [TS]

01:17:06   but I definitely still get all the negative effects me where I don't use to [TS]

01:17:11   be like I am young and virile and I can have Thai food and coffee at 11 at night [TS]

01:17:15   and now today like I did this just a terrible idea for me so yeah sensitivity [TS]

01:17:21   for real [TS]

01:17:22   yeah there's lots of stuff like that boots to make the same amount of coffee [TS]

01:17:27   every day and I think it's the right dose for me but then like I you side [TS]

01:17:32   only do any more like sometimes I just get bored at four in the afternoon [TS]

01:17:35   think we'll have another you know my whole life that's exactly what I would [TS]

01:17:39   do see eat at three o'clock and I'm like coffee I'll go make one make one cup [TS]

01:17:45   with their oppress and then you know taste a little better and and then I'm [TS]

01:17:49   you know I'd like 6 p.m. Mike wait I've been trying to read this [TS]

01:17:55   800 word article and instead I've got twenty other types I won't really wanted [TS]

01:18:00   to read this article what happened to that this morning at my god that's [TS]

01:18:07   freaking comfrey I should not have had that extra coffee this morning ahead and [TS]

01:18:11   two cups of coffee and i sat down to read the entire Wikipedia page on the [TS]

01:18:16   history of the MPAA rating system which is the same that hard it is pretty [TS]

01:18:20   standard English I got like I got like two headings in and was like let's ride [TS]

01:18:23   bikes I can't even concentrate I'm slightly perhaps but alright let me do [TS]

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01:19:09   glass I always use the same analogy that it it comes across like the way that [TS]

01:19:15   when they started laminating LCDs to the iPhone displays and makes the pixels [TS]

01:19:19   look like they're right on the class well that's what your printed photos [TS]

01:19:22   look like tractor really beautiful I just can't emphasize how easy it is once [TS]

01:19:29   you get them in your house ready to be hung it don't have to take it and go get [TS]

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01:19:40   great great gift idea probably too late I guess for you guys for Valentine's Day [TS]

01:19:47   but I don't know mother's Day is coming up that's for sure [TS]

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01:20:09   enough if you have any reason that you want to print photo take a good photo of [TS]

01:20:12   your kid I should I should get this one angle go to fractured do it there you [TS]

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01:20:39   here's the idea what you want to do you you because it was actually your idea at [TS]

01:20:44   first no yeah well the basic idea not to turn it into a parenting podcast but [TS]

01:20:49   it's the overarching dilemma of what movies do you like your kid watch like [TS]

01:20:59   what age where you balances and I have found it to be you know from the get go [TS]

01:21:07   right from when he was Jonas was old enough to discuss it in front of a TV [TS]

01:21:10   vexing dilemma and I'd ever moving target I totally and I never anticipated [TS]

01:21:17   being difficult I just always thought before I had a kid that at any given [TS]

01:21:23   moment you could give me any movie or TV show and I can instantly tell you [TS]

01:21:26   whether it was appropriate but it ends up being I think devilishly tricky well [TS]

01:21:30   exactly right so I mean the only thing I would want to establish is that you know [TS]

01:21:34   we went to college and stuff we understand that there are things like [TS]

01:21:36   ratings I think that the part that makes this so challenging is how different [TS]

01:21:41   every kid is in terms of what they are sensitive to what's likely to be [TS]

01:21:47   problematic [TS]

01:21:48   or you know cause troubles and nightmares it's it's not as simple I i [TS]

01:21:53   would i would I possibly it's not nearly as simple as just think I'm gonna trust [TS]

01:21:57   the MPAA is there plenty of G-rated movies with stuff into the [TS]

01:22:00   three-year-old some three year olds write a given three-year-old should not [TS]

01:22:04   see end of the parents know that Lake you know it's really good to avoid that [TS]

01:22:09   I mean when it comes up a lot of like scary music genre which is called scary [TS]

01:22:13   music cellos were going into the woods some kids can watch somebody be [TS]

01:22:18   decapitated freaked out my daughter things jumping into and out of frame [TS]

01:22:23   completely freaked her out real oh yeah you know I can like a horror movie kind [TS]

01:22:27   of thing yeah like in the background pops up even in any kind of movie no [TS]

01:22:33   matter how innocuous it can kind of freaked her out so yeah exactly it's [TS]

01:22:37   it's not the thing is it's in there on the other hand there are some kids wear [TS]

01:22:40   like if you fast-forward through this one scene or this other scene they would [TS]

01:22:44   be totally fine watching some pg-13 movies and it's just a it's why I think [TS]

01:22:49   it's absurd we both have some horror stories about terrible decisions but [TS]

01:22:53   also suggest I think it's interesting to talk about cuz I think everybody wants [TS]

01:22:56   to look like the real smart about it and almost everybody who let their kids [TS]

01:23:00   watch movies about it was way back in the mix wrong [TS]

01:23:05   yeah and I give you one example from from Jonas when he was young and we we [TS]

01:23:11   are outside the grand scheme of things we're relatively permissive and I always [TS]

01:23:16   have but I don't I do and because I use a shake my head when you would tell me [TS]

01:23:23   things that you would let him do it now I do the same stuff I but also I really [TS]

01:23:29   feel like a big part of that was knowing what he was good with him he was good I [TS]

01:23:35   think with relatively advanced [TS]

01:23:37   violence in movies you know he watched Star Wars very very young and you know I [TS]

01:23:43   don't think that there i watch it when I was in kindergarten to that was my [TS]

01:23:46   thinking I know I was in kindergarten I came out I turned out alright but I [TS]

01:23:52   remember it you never know that there's always little things have one of the we [TS]

01:23:55   we let him watch the Pirates of the Caribbean movies at a very early age and [TS]

01:24:01   I think that those RPG I don't think they're PG-thirteen and they got some [TS]

01:24:04   pretty spooky stuff but the point is he didn't mind it no not at all except for [TS]

01:24:09   one scene which is and I remember which one of them at 10 but there's one scene [TS]

01:24:14   where a massive in the first one where they're going after the gold that if you [TS]

01:24:20   stole the gold you became a ghost or every drop of blood and they cut [TS]

01:24:25   somebody's somebody take a knife and just put a little like a PG-rated cut [TS]

01:24:29   somebody's here and he just flipped him out and he had like a fit and he was [TS]

01:24:36   aware of what's wrong with wrong and he just was holding his hand and he said I [TS]

01:24:40   can feel it I can be lit screaming like it made him feel as though his handed my [TS]

01:24:47   kid will [TS]

01:24:48   compulsively I was looking for will automatically like finally turn away [TS]

01:24:53   from the screen whenever there's blood like you know they can hide or something [TS]

01:24:56   like that or like glue and its way so we you know you know middle of the day [TS]

01:25:04   noon you know me working at home you know Joe's 56 years ago and we both [TS]

01:25:12   looked at each other like we just gave each other's looking oh my god what have [TS]

01:25:15   we done with the sport child's mind by letting him watch this movie that we [TS]

01:25:19   should have known he was too young to watch but you just never now and then [TS]

01:25:25   and then he would be good he wouldn't refuse to watch a movie but I'll tell [TS]

01:25:28   you what he had it down don't he knew exactly when that scene was coming up [TS]

01:25:33   and he would run out and he would say you call it pass fast forward fast over [TS]

01:25:41   patches that any time when they got to the point where interest rates you when [TS]

01:25:47   buzz has to its beginning in the video game when he has to walk out across the [TS]

01:25:51   floating discs yeah yeah I said it best over and over I like that one through [TS]

01:25:57   the broken password forgot its genesis list included the wampa wampa [TS]

01:26:07   that's a good at another example of a of a jumping into frame thing you know what [TS]

01:26:11   that's it yeah you know and and they and the suspense right it's the wampa the [TS]

01:26:19   first time you see him it's the shocker right leg Luke is like looking for [TS]

01:26:24   comments or whatever it hit the ground and all of a sudden boom the one that [TS]

01:26:29   jumps in the frame yep mhm makes it terrible noise so you got that right [TS]

01:26:33   that in the ad that Jonathan like that and Jonas wanted that whole thing skip [TS]

01:26:38   though because he also could not bear the suspense of Luke [TS]

01:26:42   a side of beef yeah and not you know it's like the first time he's ever even [TS]

01:26:47   tried to use the Force to get a lightsaber and it's just sitting there [TS]

01:26:49   giggling you know it's it's it's like film school 101 you know like how to [TS]

01:26:54   build a little suspense you know the lightsaber do this them you know perfect [TS]

01:26:58   of course John Williams score for the moment which furthers the suspense is [TS]

01:27:05   about one that I was scared of and my kid was scared of what about win [TS]

01:27:10   in absolute 41 Luke's looking through binoculars and the Tusken Raider [TS]

01:27:15   no not at all even though it to me it's actually just so it's the same thing [TS]

01:27:19   right [TS]

01:27:20   no i didnt bother no talking about the wampa terrifying the Tusken Raider who [TS]

01:27:29   does the exact same thing you know you know but you get a member talking about [TS]

01:27:35   how about this and about how his daughter he thought his daughter was [TS]

01:27:38   still very tensed certain kinds this is a really sweet kid and his relationship [TS]

01:27:41   things and some people are very sensitive to almost everything in other [TS]

01:27:45   people it's virtually impossible to tell my daughter has seen some really grizzly [TS]

01:27:49   shit in movies like she said Deadpool put his head back on at the end of [TS]

01:27:53   annexin and ensure the whole movie is pretty great a terrible movie but but [TS]

01:27:59   there are some things were I can't guess ok so for example she's watched a ton of [TS]

01:28:03   Doctor Who little scared by the Daleks she's watched pretty much almost every [TS]

01:28:08   Marvel movie except for a few and all the Star Wars movies numerous times but [TS]

01:28:14   then you know we watch tonight did you ever see that show on Cartoon Network [TS]

01:28:18   from last year [TS]

01:28:19   color with a garden wall ever it's kind of like an adventure time you think [TS]

01:28:23   about these two little boys who are brothers having these like kind of fairy [TS]

01:28:26   tale adventures can buy with a silly symphonies cartoon feel really great [TS]

01:28:31   show but it is like a fairy tale kind of show where there's scary stuff that's [TS]

01:28:37   not exactly explain his kids show it's like it is in the same way to measure [TS]

01:28:41   time kind of it's kind of a kids show and that is the one stuck with her this [TS]

01:28:46   creature on their called the beast and I didn't find out for weeks that she was [TS]

01:28:52   scared honey I am so sorry and mom of course gives me the eyes and is gonna [TS]

01:28:58   happen but you begin with you guessed I mean like she didn't mind people's faces [TS]

01:29:03   melting off in Raiders of the Lost Ark but the idea of like a black be this [TS]

01:29:07   kind of cartoon bear in the forest is terrifying pianos yeah I remember I had [TS]

01:29:13   a friend growing up [TS]

01:29:15   who I miss I don't know how but I missed Raiders of the Lost Ark when it was in [TS]

01:29:21   theaters so I didn't see it but it always bothered me I was about 13 14 I [TS]

01:29:28   was I was a ok so are 98 1981 so easy but I desperately wanted to see it could [TS]

01:29:38   understand how mister you know seem like some I could get my dad to take me to it [TS]

01:29:41   somehow I missed it but then you know there is no chance to see it but I knew [TS]

01:29:45   the basic story and are are just knew that there was something about it the [TS]

01:29:49   end everybody's faces in my one friend growing up was like completely freaked [TS]

01:29:54   out about it like he had gone to see it and came out like crying embarrassed [TS]

01:29:58   himself his mom you know [TS]

01:29:58   himself his mom you know [TS]

01:30:00   him out of the week here just write it wasn't the type of kid does it isn't [TS]

01:30:05   just that like haha little skin melts off it's a full-on Ray Harryhausen they [TS]

01:30:09   would like their entire head like it's a horrifying really effective effect yeah [TS]

01:30:15   yeah but he was freaked out and he was the type of kid who just would not you [TS]

01:30:19   know it wasn't like sent you wouldn't call me sensitive get you really wet [TS]

01:30:23   normal boy who's going to see what should be an actress was happen to be [TS]

01:30:28   his thing yeah I could just touch dinner what about the end you seen the trailer [TS]

01:30:34   for the movie for Paddington has very little [TS]

01:30:37   yeah I've seen the trailer ok the trailer I i've heard from friends that [TS]

01:30:43   the movie is one of those movies where those rare movies with a movies actually [TS]

01:30:47   way better than the trailer looks very loud here but do you see the trailer is [TS]

01:30:51   seaweed in the bathroom I guess how many someday my daughter in so much trouble [TS]

01:30:56   as seen in the bathroom where he's like interacting with what it is to be a [TS]

01:30:59   berry is in the bathroom and he takes a toothbrush and sticks it in his ear [TS]

01:31:04   pulls out this giant wad of totally disgusting looking here wax it's a dumb [TS]

01:31:10   shot it's about three seconds and if I say the word paddington make it freaked [TS]

01:31:16   out she cannot stop thinking about the disgusting earwax she'll hear nothing [TS]

01:31:19   about going to see that movie because of this was he with iraq remember she's [TS]

01:31:23   seen Deadpool put his head but the thing yet it's inexplicable [TS]

01:31:29   here's the more access in bad parenting is the balance weighing wing the balance [TS]

01:31:38   of an extreme example lake which you has the kids like a classic introduction to [TS]

01:31:45   movies age of 15 Mike would you show your kid the third x-men movie if [TS]

01:31:54   they're five years old she know me I'm gonna go you know what I'm not because [TS]

01:31:59   it's not a very good movie there is a lot of inside words in it as we say in [TS]

01:32:04   our house there is some violence in it but you know what it's just not worth it [TS]

01:32:07   because whatever she sees it is that what because the movie's not that good [TS]

01:32:10   with you hesitate to show your kid [TS]

01:32:12   did mystery 20 my gosh now it's got scary things in it a little bit but it's [TS]

01:32:17   so worth it right so is not part of the balance though it isn't like you make [TS]

01:32:22   your kids sit there and watch castle freak or something like you're thinking [TS]

01:32:25   like oh this is a perfect is this the perfect age to introduce this wonderful [TS]

01:32:29   story to this kit yeah that's a very good point it has to be you know that [TS]

01:32:36   the quality of the movie factors in his own defense I'm sitting there with her [TS]

01:32:40   watching the movie like what you know except in the case of Milan 2010 my iPad [TS]

01:32:44   like I am there watching the movie with her we're talking about the movie not [TS]

01:32:47   that it's like Harvard or something just to be clear like I I it's got to be a [TS]

01:32:51   movie I like it's got to be good and it's got to be appropriate given what I [TS]

01:32:55   can never guess I I totally agree with that i think you know when I was gonna [TS]

01:33:04   scenery and he saw the Bond movies back when dan and I were talking about it i [TS]

01:33:07   mean that they're a bunch of them and that was weird on two levels because it [TS]

01:33:14   also in addition to the fact that it's kind of violent for kid who's probably [TS]

01:33:19   six or seven at the time there there's the anachronisms right i mean you know I [TS]

01:33:25   think dan and I spent my half an hour just talk on the pacing and this is this [TS]

01:33:29   is one that blew me off the water thing in the face of a casino I was I knew [TS]

01:33:36   this one was gonna be a lecture people are going to think that that that was [TS]

01:33:40   like a total Merlin euphemism but that you literally sent me a text with a pic [TS]

01:33:45   next to a picture of gold of James Bond character goldfinger in the fifties and [TS]

01:33:57   this one I barely barely barely got this one past the censors my wife was pretty [TS]

01:34:02   iffy about this cuz if it will really worried I will watch the entire movie [TS]

01:34:06   through again to be sure I definitely have to find time to talk about eighties [TS]

01:34:10   movies and how weird animals 80 never know when your gonna show up in a crazy [TS]

01:34:17   but it's really is the best James Bond movie and it's kinda [TS]

01:34:23   kind of a silly plot but it's not that hard to follow but you know what my main [TS]

01:34:27   thing was I was like she is going to watch she'll watch up to any takes off [TS]

01:34:34   this thing and have stocks that's pretty funny [TS]

01:34:36   like the pacing of this movie by her standards is so glacial there's no way [TS]

01:34:41   she's gonna watch more than 20 minutes and then it became the movie that she [TS]

01:34:44   demanded to watch it was completely perplexing watching it they were people [TS]

01:34:47   are sitting drinking mint juleps and Kentucky and talking about contaminating [TS]

01:34:50   gold I was blown away so again I had no idea that she really liked it also cuts [TS]

01:34:57   in the penis she turns we did in 2011 to Jonas was seven when I let him that's [TS]

01:35:05   the same here with her seven-year I don't think I want a seven is on TV once [TS]

01:35:12   a year I think the same way I don't know I mean you know one thing to it the [TS]

01:35:18   violence I know and I know a lot of you know there's a big three there's [TS]

01:35:24   violence language and sex I mean that's the big three like concerns not smoking [TS]

01:35:31   eating gets ass mouth but I V us [TS]

01:35:34   scariness as I would say scariness is probably the top issue because I I [TS]

01:35:38   really do think that you know like truly scary movie you know can upset a kid for [TS]

01:35:43   days I do realize I'd absolutely realize that there are some kids a lot of times [TS]

01:35:49   boys who if they see a movie where there's a lot of like shooting action [TS]

01:35:55   even in a sort of cartoon away like Star Wars that it gets the kid all amped up [TS]

01:36:00   and then the kid starts jumping around the house smashing things like you know [TS]

01:36:04   like I showed her bit sore shoulder YouTube videos of priestly like a pastor [TS]

01:36:08   Bruce Lee or something like that and she's watched kick everything after that [TS]

01:36:12   well and/or and worse that you wanted kids wanna kick other kids Jonas's never [TS]

01:36:18   ever been to jones' very gentle kid and it's anything that he season movie did [TS]

01:36:22   not alter the behavior in the real world so I mean I think it allowed us to be a [TS]

01:36:28   little permissive you know that way but I think most kids are actually pretty [TS]

01:36:31   good that way I think it's kind of rare you know so [TS]

01:36:34   the violence we've always been a little liberal depend on the violence it [TS]

01:36:39   depends on i mean you know that thing is there are phrases that I would hear [TS]

01:36:44   people use before had a child and i would just I would want to strangle the [TS]

01:36:48   person the phrase a phrase I used to sneer at imitative behavior you know [TS]

01:36:53   that sometimes in these reviews you'll see well it contains an assesment then [TS]

01:36:56   imitative behavior meaning you know the three stooges rate that's a good example [TS]

01:37:00   of you watching the three stooges a private one hit somebody on the head [TS]

01:37:04   Maggie Simpson with the mallet or whatever but I doubt I think I think [TS]

01:37:09   there's also this is really where I don't know I'm out on a limb but I think [TS]

01:37:13   there are differences there's different kinds of violence I think stormtroopers [TS]

01:37:16   getting bloodless Lee shot with comic book violence is really different from [TS]

01:37:21   Hellraiser [TS]

01:37:22   or like saw I think there is a really big difference in degree and the [TS]

01:37:27   personal massage it so there are some things in the seventies and eighties [TS]

01:37:31   movies there is so much completely random weird nudity and sex in seventies [TS]

01:37:36   and eighties movie especially eighties movies but there's also some extremely [TS]

01:37:40   personal violence in in these kinds of movies like the idea of my calling [TS]

01:37:44   somebody with a knife to the throat and cutting them I think that is a different [TS]

01:37:48   kind of animal than a stormtrooper getting shot personally yeah I do two or [TS]

01:37:51   even just sticking the guns with especially in the older ones went by and [TS]

01:37:58   shoot somebody it's practically like shooting a stormtrooper I mean it's like [TS]

01:38:01   you know like the script discriminant chester was just like a puff of smoke [TS]

01:38:04   and the guy just you know [TS]

01:38:06   sharks with lasers it whereas I think the more visceral violence in the more [TS]

01:38:18   recent ones like the ones you know is a little different [TS]

01:38:22   oh my gosh oh no no no I mean a lot different yeah yeah I mean I could pull [TS]

01:38:30   it off [TS]

01:38:34   what do you think about what do you think about the actual ratings I i still [TS]

01:38:39   think it was a mistake to introduce the rating pg-13 [TS]

01:38:42   I find it well it certainly was easier at one time to understand everybody knew [TS]

01:38:49   what are rated meant are ready you can expect some some serious nudity and [TS]

01:38:55   simulated sex you could expect some shit and fucks and you can expect we're [TS]

01:39:00   smoking and drugs in your French Connection that's an R rated movie that [TS]

01:39:05   was easy to understand now when I like that article 81 10 thread today [TS]

01:39:09   1984 comes along you've got was a temple do know Temple of Doom gremlins were to [TS]

01:39:15   move like this is just the gremlins I think I could seagram's for my kid out [TS]

01:39:20   personally it so it's kind of a weird movie that is weird movie we just [TS]

01:39:25   rewatched not recently but maybe like last Christmas cuz it's sort of a [TS]

01:39:29   Christmas movie about a year ago but even even something like a movie we all [TS]

01:39:33   love it's like Groundhog Day if Groundhog Day had just the smallest bit [TS]

01:39:41   of editing it would be maybe a canonical family movie it's so close to being a [TS]

01:39:47   Ghostbusters which Nikki there isn't ghostbusters [TS]

01:39:51   effect blowjob you gotta remember that member that weird and aggregates the [TS]

01:39:56   girls blowjob into doing in this movie it's a movie for kids or just you know [TS]

01:40:05   there's all these news this is still true today I know what the Marvel movies [TS]

01:40:09   are usually pretty good with the salty language into like the last act and [TS]

01:40:13   that's when all the facts come out is always like what is the rules they're [TS]

01:40:17   kind of like a standard for how many are allowed and pg-13 movie yeah I think [TS]

01:40:21   there's some kind of kinetic they'd like to really look him up in the back to [TS]

01:40:24   when the closing action but I'm just saying like that's the part that's [TS]

01:40:27   perplexing is there are like you telling Ghostbusters not right for kids back to [TS]

01:40:31   the future but their system back back to the future is a great a great family [TS]

01:40:35   movie The still has some stuff in it that's a little edgy I mean you know [TS]

01:40:41   he's in his underwear I guess it's not a big deal but you know it straight at [TS]

01:40:44   home alone I mean kids movie right there with what seemed an iron in the face [TS]

01:40:52   that's worse than Wolverine I don't know I don't know the violence and home alone [TS]

01:41:00   is kinda weird cuz it's a no one hand it's kind of gone from the three stooges [TS]

01:41:04   thing and then the other hand there's like actual acid like walking up the [TS]

01:41:09   steps in bare feet and you see the nail sticking out of the step and you're like [TS]

01:41:14   this is the most horrific thing that I've ever seen he has every kid's [TS]

01:41:18   terrified repairs to terrify contestants from a nail right and he steps on in [TS]

01:41:22   like a three-inch exposed like now right past it's an interesting movie because [TS]

01:41:30   it it does the bit like his but sitting Kevin Kevin Kevin mastery of these two [TS]

01:41:37   buffoon criminals is established cinematically such that you kind of get [TS]

01:41:43   the sense that the kids gonna come out on top [TS]

01:41:46   they you know and that therefore his his mastery of of these two criminals the [TS]

01:41:51   way that he prolongs their stuff it really does kind of in a in a scented [TS]

01:41:55   too little bit more like torture than a grand genial it's deliberately making [TS]

01:42:00   this is awful as he can [TS]

01:42:02   it's less self defense and more towards he's kind of enjoy man actually I think [TS]

01:42:09   there's a couple of scenes relate one of his you know traps works and he just [TS]

01:42:13   flat out like high fives and yes I gotta pick that up with a dead leg her fist [TS]

01:42:19   out in fuller go easy on the patsy I love them but I don't know I'm just [TS]

01:42:28   saying okay how about this I G thirteen so there I think it was a mistake [TS]

01:42:32   because I think that the old way was gee that's a kids movie that's for everybody [TS]

01:42:38   PPG is it's in between and r is for adults and doesn't matter what does [TS]

01:42:45   matter he says it all [TS]

01:42:48   pgp he says like your mileage may vary like you know it basically sit almost [TS]

01:42:52   kind of says like you need to like watch the kids do practical or likely be [TS]

01:42:59   advised right [TS]

01:43:00   be advised think about it [TS]

01:43:02   you know if your kid is younger and if your kid is over 10 it probably probably [TS]

01:43:06   get yeah you know I don't know but it's again that good to me the hard part is [TS]

01:43:10   this sense to Shu linked to this website that I i look at a lot and I i I'm [TS]

01:43:15   somewhat ambivalent about it and yet I find it extremely useful cannot believe [TS]

01:43:19   I'm saying this is kids in mind [TS]

01:43:22   yeah very interesting idea they review these movies but it's very funny so none [TS]

01:43:28   of it is they come up with this these three Lake three numbers numerals but [TS]

01:43:35   how much sex and nudity is there from 0 to 10 how much violence and gore [TS]

01:43:41   profanity from 0 to 10 which i think it's a great like you know a fast glantz [TS]

01:43:47   we're okay we're thinking about these two different movies like which one of [TS]

01:43:52   these looks better on the face of it and it seems to me that quick sniff test [TS]

01:43:55   attended you go in and look at the actual page at like how like porn where [TS]

01:44:02   they describe all the stuff that actually in it [TS]

01:44:05   no i didnt im looking at lunch spot in the way they describe its hilarious I [TS]

01:44:09   wanna meet the person who writes this spongebob movie which I absolutely not [TS]

01:44:14   wanna see sex and nudity get a tattoo machine human men on the beach with [TS]

01:44:18   their chests many women wear skimpy bikinis and reveal cleavage spandex [TS]

01:44:22   shorts partially down from a starfish is waste we see the upper buttocks and [TS]

01:44:26   buttock cleavage [TS]

01:44:28   going here for more to come husband and his wife attempt to kiss several times [TS]

01:44:33   different scenes but his mustache makes her and she gags in reflex please see [TS]

01:44:41   the violence and gore category for more details on the gag but does it read like [TS]

01:44:46   something like a japanese-made will buy for porn [TS]

01:44:48   American sniper profanity get to 10 about a hundred and fifteen f words and [TS]

01:44:53   its derivatives 10 sexual references 32 scatological terms twenty anatomical [TS]

01:44:57   terms twelve miles obscenities name-calling including such a quitter [TS]

01:45:01   nuts old man hotbox arrogance also sitting ducks legend [TS]

01:45:05   why county road down John like [TS]

01:45:09   count all a hundred and fifteen Fox because clearly anyway how long is the [TS]

01:45:14   movie even if it's three hours you're you're you're on the 22 hours and 12 [TS]

01:45:19   minutes so it's a roughly 10 minute right and left unless there's like a [TS]

01:45:27   burst at the end it's you know I think you don't have to go about two or three [TS]

01:45:32   movies minutes into this movie and you can just check often on all rights like [TS]

01:45:40   this like your if you're like the inspector for a hotel like you don't [TS]

01:45:44   have to count the bus routes in the lobby new dealers check that off just [TS]

01:45:50   chalk it off you know how to count them you don't have to count 1998 film lock [TS]

01:45:55   people up families have enjoyed called The Big Lebowski profanity about two [TS]

01:46:00   hundred and forty effort many scatological references many anatomical [TS]

01:46:06   references many pundits entities to fixed on a Kabul [TS]

01:46:11   I I love this but I know that i'm gonna lose a lot of time on this site like oh [TS]

01:46:17   I know anything like it show it to my wife can't she's a grown ass woman but [TS]

01:46:23   you know it makes its when you read when you read it in this clinical way and [TS]

01:46:27   makes it sound so much worse when they say a star fishes swim suit is pulled [TS]

01:46:32   down reveals buttocks guys at Patrick Fitzpatrick but his goddamn cartoon [TS]

01:46:37   character it's okay if we see is but I looked up Fantastic Mr Fox which is [TS]

01:46:42   actually I just watched it I love it so much I thought he called it a link to a [TS]

01:46:49   picture from it he said its underrated I think it's my favorite with Sanders it's [TS]

01:46:53   it's it's one of my all-time favorite movies let alone one of our families [TS]

01:46:57   like these two movies if we can decide on anything it comes to plug it into the [TS]

01:47:00   Incredibles or mister Fox yeah that's those are those are two good wanted to [TS]

01:47:07   leave at the top of the key for sex and nudity is only ranked 21 out of 10 which [TS]

01:47:15   meshes with my memory [TS]

01:47:17   here's what we've got [TS]

01:47:20   husband and a wife Justin Fox kiss and hug a teen boy in a team girl Fox for in [TS]

01:47:28   a couple of scenes I do remember that my lab partner number to a rat refers to a [TS]

01:47:39   Fox's wife as the quote count are right I yeah I never off a fox wife tells her [TS]

01:47:48   Fox husband that she is pregnant so that gets counts from 401 on this sex nudity [TS]

01:47:53   schedule while the man yeah but again you know if this is ok so I just gotta [TS]

01:47:59   say in this is this is actually really helpful though 'cause like you say this [TS]

01:48:03   is the rats in the lobby title is like you can see like oh yeah he's not gonna [TS]

01:48:08   be great to watch with the kids and the wrong now we're gonna skip this one but [TS]

01:48:12   it is also good you can go through and look for elect the trigger a trigger for [TS]

01:48:16   your kids twenty seven XQ made this is for profanity 27 exclamations what the [TS]

01:48:21   cuss cuss words what the cuss cuss word yeah they have the scatological terms [TS]

01:48:39   glossary [TS]

01:48:41   F word derivatives which all have little asterisks in the scatological terms [TS]

01:48:45   religious profanities yelled obscenities friggin would be counted as a mild [TS]

01:48:50   obscenity derogatory terms wow but you know I still gotta remember this do you [TS]

01:48:58   remember mid late nineties do you remember a service that was actually [TS]

01:49:05   kind of like but became Netflix where you could get a knitted movies I think [TS]

01:49:11   it might have been a somewhat overtly Christian place but she could get like a [TS]

01:49:15   PGA movie that all of the stuff a certain kind of religious person would [TS]

01:49:19   find offensive cut out I do remember hearing about it [TS]

01:49:23   hearing about it I don't know where winter when it did but is not especially [TS]

01:49:26   in the digital age is a very interesting idea yeah cuz it would be you know you [TS]

01:49:31   could do without losing for that we just need some basic metadata on like well [TS]

01:49:35   you know he's going to be so great if you could do it and say you know what my [TS]

01:49:40   family is observe it and we don't want any guide dams could you just with audio [TS]

01:49:44   clip out the guidance but leave in the horror violence or whatever else they [TS]

01:49:49   want to share his passion of the Christ but you know i mean that cuz I gotta say [TS]

01:49:54   I i'm i'm I find that kinda goes against my values about censorship or something [TS]

01:50:01   but that's what I'm asking for you know there are some movies I am much more [TS]

01:50:05   likely to have my daughter watching a hotel room because I know they've been [TS]

01:50:09   you know edited down they've taken out the Highlander in a hotel room she [TS]

01:50:13   thought was a riot I would never show that to her at home I never thought [TS]

01:50:19   about that [TS]

01:50:20   looking for hotel at the Director's Cut and then there's hilton's cut wow this [TS]

01:50:28   is an unusual unusual spread on Passion of the Christ sex and nudity profanity [TS]

01:50:35   someone else and gore full 1000 mile get I've been now looking for movies that I [TS]

01:50:50   have let Jonas see that they don't even bother to list because of the shining is [TS]

01:50:57   not lose all come on are you know it's me that I'd let him see it yeah yeah I [TS]

01:51:04   think that's the only cougar now she's never that was recently that was with ya [TS]

01:51:17   Clockwork Orange is gonna have to wait but there are some things [TS]

01:51:22   you know what to tell you but there's a movie that she has been to see some of [TS]

01:51:31   the book which I told her the entire story and I'm like it's that's why too [TS]

01:51:42   much personal violence like that the violence in Homs I tell you I don't care [TS]

01:51:47   I'm sad I love them I thought was a great movie I thought was modified those [TS]

01:51:53   very well done and i i just i I really liked it and I cannot wait as well as [TS]

01:51:58   movies like that and costly saying her honey I cannot wait until you're old [TS]

01:52:02   enough to watch it like that one blade runner up later his employer now yeah [TS]

01:52:10   thats yeah there's the darryl hanah the republicans doing some pretty bad lately [TS]

01:52:20   on you got leon there's some pretty bad stuff I would imagine that he's eleven [TS]

01:52:26   out ruler yeah I'm worried how much how much do they play up that there was a [TS]

01:52:31   prostitute lol ok afraid it's gonna be imitative behavior [TS]

01:52:38   well I would get a job but I would say only only within like the last year's [TS]

01:52:44   should probably rated by must've been released [TS]

01:52:49   yeah some of them are amazing I'm telling you there's something about [TS]

01:52:53   eighties movies that seems completely random movies that in my head I think of [TS]

01:52:58   as being like me because I saw them when I was a young teenager [TS]

01:53:02   I'm so blown away there's just nowhere in the movie we just watched over [TS]

01:53:08   Christmas we watched weekend at Bernie's a loved it he absolutely loved it [TS]

01:53:18   but there were a couple of surprising eighties sort of boobies yeah I don't [TS]

01:53:23   know how else to describe those in the thing was that it was so egregious [TS]

01:53:27   I think a lot of things I'm thinking I was by the time you had the actual you [TS]

01:53:34   know VHS or beta cable and certainly get ready for distribution on TV and if you [TS]

01:53:41   think about it like a douche I think about but with her but she thought about [TS]

01:53:49   it we thought about it and then we were like running it through our head so much [TS]

01:53:53   of it that's good but that you know more later i shud [TS]

01:53:57   Carl finance candy bar in the pool I don't know when we're gonna have to talk [TS]

01:54:02   about what abortion is but it's not going to be so that waitress has a baby [TS]

01:54:07   boy was gonna say about us I think about how how egregious and unnecessary so [TS]

01:54:17   many the boobies are like you could tell they made it to be easy to cut out the [TS]

01:54:22   shot of her shirt off what was it like you had to have that in every age movie [TS]

01:54:27   early eighties movie like stripes [TS]

01:54:30   you know i mean that are like kind of mostly ok in some ways but there are [TS]

01:54:34   like super inappropriate in other ways but yeah there's gotta be it doesn't [TS]

01:54:38   have to be like a scene where there were twenty three-year-old a party with [TS]

01:54:44   feathered hair and they're either getting hosed down or having a full [TS]

01:54:47   effect [TS]

01:54:47   well an awful lot actresses got hosed down nerds in in completely mainstream [TS]

01:55:00   Bollywood movies in the nineteen eighties car wash to save the orphanage [TS]

01:55:04   there's no punches are soft right to tell people how do we help people at [TS]

01:55:12   this John there are new parents out there people having babies they crazy [TS]

01:55:16   people how do we help people I don't know I feel like you've actually got to [TS]

01:55:22   have faith in your kids I feel like because I don't know I just remember [TS]

01:55:25   when I was a kid when I was not allowed to watch certain movies it was a [TS]

01:55:29   constant source of frustration from a prior I did and we had a neighborhood [TS]

01:55:37   movie theater and it was so great I think I thought I had to have talked [TS]

01:55:41   about this on the show something but it's probably years ago probably like [TS]

01:55:43   Dan but it was I didn't even have to cross the street is cata corner up and [TS]

01:55:50   around the block from my parents house so I don't even have to cross the street [TS]

01:55:52   and it was called the majestic and it was an old-time like vaudeville theatre [TS]

01:55:58   that at some point [TS]

01:55:59   forties or fifties was turned into a movie theater and it was I connected to [TS]

01:56:05   the fire companies so they have the building was fire trucks the other half [TS]

01:56:08   of the movie theater and it was just right out of central casting of old-time [TS]

01:56:13   matinee movie theater velvet seats while had a balcony a big balcony like around [TS]

01:56:22   the side and it was run by a family the guy who owned it was mister dieter Peter [TS]

01:56:28   Dietrich dealer I think and he is by around 50 and his dad was the [TS]

01:56:34   projections and the ticket taker the front door is dad he must have been 75 [TS]

01:56:41   but in in tomorrow eyes as I eight nine-year-olds he was ancient he was [TS]

01:56:45   like older than God he was he was he was older [TS]

01:56:49   and then the kids his like near do well teenaged son would sometimes be working [TS]

01:56:56   and it was such a great place could you sometimes get away with it well what you [TS]

01:57:00   can sometimes get away with is if the kid was behind it had great popcorn like [TS]

01:57:04   the best popcorn in the universe and they had because it was like a little [TS]

01:57:08   you know a little movie theater they never got movies when they were new they [TS]

01:57:13   got movies right after they were new so like Empire Strikes Back would come out [TS]

01:57:18   and it would play for three months at the multiplex then the majestic for like [TS]

01:57:23   you know however they wanted and they would sometimes have like two movies at [TS]

01:57:29   the same time even though it was just you know wasn't a multiplex one screen [TS]

01:57:33   but like in the afternoon they might show like a kids movie like Peter Pan [TS]

01:57:36   and at night time there was no john travolta and they would also strip show [TS]

01:57:43   Rock movies like concert films from movies yeah like they were like just [TS]

01:57:49   contra movies like The Stones and Led Zeppelin and stuff like that my parents [TS]

01:57:52   are those are our backyard would get trash TV they're like cut through like [TS]

01:57:59   and and stuff but it was such a great place but I remember weeks ago as a kid [TS]

01:58:06   any Saturday where it was winter or if it was raining or whatever we would just [TS]

01:58:12   go to the majestic we would just go there because it was $1 dollar man [TS]

01:58:15   apparently mom when my giving them money out of there but every once in a while I [TS]

01:58:19   remember one time specifically I wasn't allowed to all my friends were going and [TS]

01:58:23   they didn't give one day when mr Peters he did you should tell you if you had $2 [TS]

01:58:28   you so that the Saturday matinee was Cujo [TS]

01:58:32   this whole story is my house and I was not allowed my mom checked I knew she [TS]

01:58:36   wouldn't let me as I hope I just go to the majestic and she said what play I [TS]

01:58:41   don't know just let me luck she looks you know in the newspaper of course it [TS]

01:58:46   is Kujo rated R in Nashua tell you well I don't know I can sometimes go and see [TS]

01:58:53   what's there [TS]

01:58:54   yeah and we would often go if they had the same movie two weeks ago we'd go see [TS]

01:58:58   it twice in a row [TS]

01:58:59   if we sat in the balcony last time we'll sit up in the front row this time and [TS]

01:59:03   you know after time on the balcony would disturb them throw popcorn on teenagers [TS]

01:59:07   who were making out down the back they're like little kids up in the front [TS]

01:59:12   row little kids on the balcony and like teenagers making out the back row we [TS]

01:59:16   would try to throw popcorn on the great thing they had video games in the lobby [TS]

01:59:22   got up a little mini arcade in the lobby and you can play them and he also said [TS]

01:59:28   that the old man's dad with the projections were the projection booth [TS]

01:59:31   was up in the balcony and it took him I swear no joke like five minutes to walk [TS]

01:59:36   up the steps and he was seriously all that he would he was told he would take [TS]

01:59:40   the steps like left foot and then the right foot would be in the center right [TS]

01:59:45   foot so it was like a last call for video games like when his dad started [TS]

01:59:50   going up the steps you knew you had time for you could you could still get one [TS]

01:59:53   more game without missing a place but I couldn't get into a can get into sea [TS]

01:59:59   creature and I remember Blue Lagoon I remember missing out on the Blue Lagoon [TS]

02:00:03   cable or brother but all my friends my friends parents decided they didn't [TS]

02:00:10   check I think I don't think anybody's was probably around eight or nine at the [TS]

02:00:14   time I don't think anybody in their right mind would let their eight or nine [TS]

02:00:16   Realty Cujo but here's the thing to I remember thinking I would be fine I was [TS]

02:00:23   not I i never once was upset by a movie in my entire life as a kid I was you [TS]

02:00:28   know I think preternaturally sure I could have I and my friends are Cujo [TS]

02:00:34   never find including my friend Dave who's the kid who got freaked out by [TS]

02:00:40   raiders of the lost art he went to see crucial thought it was a cool movie you [TS]

02:00:44   know what you're in for you know a better story you know now with older [TS]

02:00:50   kids a lot of the time and I went back from Florida to visit my friend in Ohio [TS]

02:00:56   that someone was later it was out and they're all older than me and they could [TS]

02:01:00   pass and I look like it was for never forget we walk up there and they buy the [TS]

02:01:06   tickets in my hand of God I walked up to the counter [TS]

02:01:08   I think I was holding an unlit cigarette maybe they giving me to go for Blade [TS]

02:01:14   Runner told you I was 13 and I really wanted to prevent teenagers like like [TS]

02:01:32   teenagers did you ever do the thing where you buy a ticket for one you know [TS]

02:01:36   they tell you and then try to sneak into never never occurred to me it's such [TS]

02:01:40   that such a smart chick I was scared to do anything I was always scared by beer [TS]

02:01:44   was scared to go are rated movies I was ever so I was such a good kid I could [TS]

02:01:50   get like I did not want to disappoint anybody I was scared scared I was a [TS]

02:01:57   scary like the rise of the multiplex and then once I was old enough money because [TS]

02:02:04   they're so understaffed got a one kid that walks around us we some popcorn is [TS]

02:02:08   paying attention to is going in the theaters you go and sit somewhere near [TS]

02:02:11   an adult you're good to go [TS]

02:02:12   yeah like I think a bunch of Schwarzenegger's eighties movies were R [TS]

02:02:16   rated oh yeah all those people up and blowing things up a week you know we [TS]

02:02:24   were just gonna buy tickets for whatever we thought we could get into and you can [TS]

02:02:28   always sneak in there is always one guy like you would make sure you had a [TS]

02:02:32   ticket there was no money in pursuing that now i mean there's money in running [TS]

02:02:36   and selling you know goobers and pop court there's no money in my I am one [TS]

02:02:42   time my friend Ethan and I went to multiplex two girls and it wasn't a date [TS]

02:02:52   wasn't a date but it might have a legacy was a teenage situation over there were [TS]

02:02:58   girls involved and so I could kind of pretend they may be and we wanted to see [TS]

02:03:04   an R rated movie about we were it was like 13 anymore or maybe more like 15 or [TS]

02:03:09   16 and so we did it be a problem and we asked for the R rated movie and she said [TS]

02:03:16   no idea where I know and she was 17 of course she's a ticket for you know [TS]

02:03:25   whatever was pgm she's like now on now and my friend and brother had had driven [TS]

02:03:33   us and dropped us off Mason two or three years older so he was like 17 or 18 and [TS]

02:03:38   he hadn't gone yet you know we we ran and got him and he he he bought our [TS]

02:03:43   tickets are you kidding yeah but it was like but I still don't know how that I [TS]

02:03:48   have no respect for people who buy beer for underage kids the people who buy [TS]

02:03:53   said the guy drinks a lot but but but somebody buying movie tickets for kids [TS]

02:03:57   that's pretty cool yeah but I don't know why she felt that she wouldn't fall for [TS]

02:04:01   our will lose it by the PGA but she somehow fell for apparently once there's [TS]

02:04:06   a seventeen year old involved you can get anybody in the city I D [TS]

02:04:10   they they they can't say anything that the law right I think we told her to the [TS]

02:04:18   parent holding a finger on your nose and my dad says it's ok later damn [TS]

02:04:30   borderline you know there's again that higher games diehard there so many [TS]

02:04:38   movies where I'm like you so can't see this yet but I really I cannot wait yeah [TS]

02:04:44   I remember my was not allowed to read Catcher in the Rye and I don't even know [TS]

02:04:52   why I wanted to some point I'd you know you know fairly avid reader and my mom [TS]

02:05:00   hope you know that my mom encouraged it and you know I can buy books we get [TS]

02:05:06   books at library and at some point I wanted to read Catcher in the Rye her [TS]

02:05:09   with a coworker and she thought about I could tell she was really thought she [TS]

02:05:12   was like you know it's a great book I can't wait for you to read it but you're [TS]

02:05:16   not you're not old enough and I would ask like every six months can recapture [TS]

02:05:21   I can actually see let me and I forget I don't know how old I was but you know [TS]

02:05:25   maybe like 12 or 13 and I read it and I was expecting him because it been so set [TS]

02:05:31   up by her not allow me to yeah I thought it was going to be like to end his [TS]

02:05:36   country's great stuff being bored to tears I was just a kid walking right [TS]

02:05:42   shoulder and I wish that's what my mom and said to me I wish she hadn't made [TS]

02:05:48   she was thinking too much about some of the content and some of the ideas and I [TS]

02:05:52   really really fundamentally it was more like you you you shouldn't bother [TS]

02:05:57   reading in a yuan appreciate it if we're talking about it's a truly great book [TS]

02:06:04   but you're not ready for it well give it to you are going this is it movie wise [TS]

02:06:09   it's actually rated G [TS]

02:06:11   content wise is not that bad but I won't let Jones watch 2001 right because I [TS]

02:06:18   strongly suspect he'll be bored to tears and I don't want to get it or like or I [TS]

02:06:24   mean watching the tape stuff the being that is so fake [TS]

02:06:30   I wonder if you think it's like some of it some of the bag the staging looks [TS]

02:06:34   fake I think the Apes themselves are still expect it that's for sure but now [TS]

02:06:39   I'm with you that would be something is James Bond her like I was amazed that [TS]

02:06:42   you can tolerate the pacing to watch goldfinger like three times now it's [TS]

02:06:46   it's crazy figure they just sit up or just drink module on and on and then [TS]

02:06:54   they had some discussions about whether they should go in and let you keep doing [TS]

02:06:58   his thing James Bond in the sallies out of the cell he's in that he's in these [TS]

02:07:02   in the world's craziest he's hiding under the world's craziest record my god [TS]

02:07:06   what was the guys name can out of that room so much and everything everytime I [TS]

02:07:15   watch it when goldfinger leaves to go make his deal with the guy who wants his [TS]

02:07:19   money back to the same stupid we wanted to play billiards [TS]

02:07:24   hey I I should go I gotta try to get to the strike to help people here I i mean [TS]

02:07:30   what do your mileage may vary what we say what we SAT and I don't care what [TS]

02:07:34   people think we're nuts but like well what would you say as a good piece of [TS]

02:07:37   advice I would say one is if it if it's a movie you consider a classic you think [TS]

02:07:40   your kid is almost ready for yourself [TS]

02:07:43   yeah with them not there and also I would not be afraid to fest over yeah [TS]

02:07:49   yeah [TS]

02:07:50   passed passed for Passover yeah yeah you gotta watch it with them [TS]

02:07:55   yeah I heard that I think we just got into tired this year we have said this [TS]

02:08:02   is the first year that beautiful Christmas ten 10 years that's just about [TS]

02:08:06   perfect I don't know I don't know why I had filed away is something to watch [TS]

02:08:11   news 10 yeah yeah [TS]

02:08:13   it's always a pleasure we just do this every weekend up without know when it [TS]

02:08:21   gets to be good for us how I think we should start our own version of this [TS]

02:08:25   kids in mind and we'll do our own our own version we're not gonna County [TS]

02:08:29   effort no no women are our sites can be called rats in the lobby and we're just [TS]

02:08:35   gonna let you know if your kids are just kept skipping that said that's it [TS]