00:00:00 ◼ ► John MGC what're you doing good has been a long time I know months I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► strongly suspect but I would never be as industrious says to actually check but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/9">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► about this is the longest stretch without being on the show I think so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/15">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► think that's right but you know I live in London now so that's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► reason so yeah that is what makes a little bit harder to communicate yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► it's funny cause it's going back to back its last episode was Ben Thompson whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/27">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► in Taipei and in London so I feel like I've gone around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/33">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► international audience I don't know that it can I honestly think it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/40">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► somebody in New Zealand or something could be further away but that's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► as far away as as people can get all this is much better for your normally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/52">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► have to talk to the west coast that's eight hours and so that keeps me up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► know 11 a.m. 2 a.m. for those types of calls yeah I bet that that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► pretty weird I do feel like being a lifelong East Coast aus person I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/64">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► like you know like Greenwich Mean Time isn't that far away but but for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/72">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► from the West Coast it it truly is it's it's an entire eight hours we'll see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/78">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► how I'm going to watch the Super Bowl a think it starts that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/83">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► 1234 so maybe 11:30 p.m. and then it's gonna go obviously to like 2:30 a.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/88">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► obviously they have a lot of different bars and stuff set up over here to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► it but it will be weird because it's in Arizona are it so it's either western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/98">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► mountain time but yeah arizona's definitely West Coast I'm definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/104">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► isn't Arizona one of the new mexico that's like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/110">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► like a holdout on ya one of those does not do it and then Vegas does a weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/115">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► like they sometimes are on one time zone sometimes I don't know or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/120">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► that yeah well they they legislated in Vegas that there's no clocks anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/124">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► right like a lot of you have to like I do watch when you get to the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► there till confiscated and set so that the big news is we feel like we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/131">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► talk about it and can can't skip it is is the quarterly results from Apple yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/140">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► I do you which mister and it's like i know im not a finance blogger I try not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/146">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► to over emphasize it but I feel like in this case it's so outlandish Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/154">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► exceptional that you can't help it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► talk about it and write about it make links to it and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/162">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► yeah it's insane I remember I guess it was a couple years ago probably when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► was obviously still with maybe a three years ago when I was still at TechCrunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/171">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► and I was obviously doing a lot of the coverage of the Apple earnings and each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/175">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► subsequent subsequent year they go up and up and up and one of the years it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/181">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► was like insane it was made thirteen billion dollars in profit in the holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► quarter so is either two or three years ago and it seemed like a time like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/189">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► that I mean that's amazing it's sort of an eight-time win you know the margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/195">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► were still very very high and then they were everyone was thinking that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/200">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► were going to start coming down because of different products that were coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► out in the future iPad and whatnot and so it seemed like the thirteen billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► might be a high-water mark and now you know there's just been totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/211">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► obliterated by this quarter that the thing that comes to mind for me I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/215">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► thinking about it I don't know why cuz it's not like it's particularly even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/219">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► number of years but for years ago was the debut or no I guess was five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/225">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► ago so it is kind of a half-decade 25 years ago 2010 was when the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/231">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► right and I remembered there were two things about that key note that I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/236">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► stand out to me and it's not the iPad in particular but it was that was when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/241">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► introduced a four SIM card chip and I remember Steve Jobs being very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/246">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► wit and in hindsight it wasn't that great of a chip but I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► reason that he was bragging about it in hindsight was that he knew the pipeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/257">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► of day 5 they six right what they were planning to do year after year and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► they were going to take control of their own Silicon in the years to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► and the other thing I remembered I think that was the event I'm like 98% sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/270">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► that it was the event where he mentioned that Apple was now a fifty billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► dollar a year company I think you're right I do remember being at whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/279">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► event that was when he sort of highlighted that for the first time I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/284">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► remember that right and and you know he said almost the same thing with it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► I said here as I you know we don't want to talk to you know we've also right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► products to talk about but i just want to take a moment and just mark this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/294">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► we are now Apple is now a fifty billion dollar your company and and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/298">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► saying like you know that's the big boys club in Silicon Valley fifty billion a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/303">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► year in revenue and they did 74 billion in revenue in a quarter since five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/308">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► later right like and it really was worth marking it was really was remarkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/317">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► five years ago that Apple was doing fifty billion a year in revenue like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► that's a huge number it's a ton of money it's way more than Apple did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/326">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► forever really until then ever and all of a sudden that you know two-thirds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► what I mean what are they gonna hit this year so everyone's obviously talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/339">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► about in terms of earnings it turns a profit they're actually you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► set the record they eclipsed all those oil companies including the Russian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/346">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► state oil company in terms of the amount of profit-making but they're also very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/350">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► much on track this being you know technically the fiscal quarter one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► they're very much on track to break the all-time yearly record for that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► also held by all the oil companies there's a there's an outlier for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► thing which is on the Wikipedia page that's that's with the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/367">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► bailout and everything is sort of lunch not a fair comparison so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/371">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► probably gonna set that record in terms of revenue yearly revenues was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► this area of 200 billion something like that you know obviously this is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/379">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► quarter but then you know next quarter should be pretty big that goes down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/383">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► little bit and I will spike up again sort of twist back-to-school sales and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► everything like that I assume two hundred billion something like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/391">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► definitely cause what 40 40 40 you know get you pretty close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/397">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► that's so crazy and you know remember I guess it was a couple of years ago I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/402">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► also covering this you know talking about Apple's market cap which you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/409">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► also make an argument you know isn't really there's there it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► symbolic more than its really meaningful what what market cap Exxon means and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► know people always argue about that it was a big deal when Apple of course past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► Microsoft which is which was I don't even know now four years ago or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/424">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► longer than that and that Apple was chasing exxon for a long time in at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/428">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► point I remember they were something like two hundred billion behind in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► market cap and it just seemed like impossible if they would ever get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► and now there's something there are over 200 million ahead of Exxon now maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/438">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► three hundred billion ahead and obviously exons depressed because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/442">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► oil situation going on their stock is but it's incredible I think someone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/447">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► been treating today and and showcasing this that I think Apple's market cap is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► now just about the exact same as Google and Microsoft combined had pain I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/459">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► somebody tweeted I saw yesterday this recording on Friday January 30 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/465">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► yesterday I think at the close of market that Apple closed with when the market's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/470">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► closed at exactly double the market cap of Google yeah I guess that would that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/478">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► right there almost neck-and-neck they're like very first one other so yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/483">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► I mean it's almost uncanny how close to exactly double it was which is again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/489">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► it's it's you know it in years past and probably years future you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/496">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► Apple's stock is down you know for reasons good or reasons nonsensical it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/505">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► you know like you said it's not proof of anything it's not like market cap is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► an infallible measure but it's at least a measure of what people think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/516">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► yeah and I mean right now the craziest thing of all this is you can make a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/522">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► good argument that Apple is undervalued on the stock market their trading at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► multiples that are way below what some of their peers or trading it and given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► the numbers they just released I mean it's not so insane anymore to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/535">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► they could be the first trillion dollar company if they're able to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/541">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► Grameen we can talk about what it would take it would take continuing to grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/545">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► iPhone and I think we all agree now you know you you they can't continue to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/551">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► that they don't have a massive market share still so there's there's room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► growth and then China I think it's the big sort of factor in that and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/560">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► can keep doing that and if the stock market overall keep sort of going up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/566">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► there's no assurances of that of course it's possible but it's possible so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/571">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► elephant in the room is the rate in lg but it's it's clearly largely almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/581">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► two-thirds three course three quarters driven by iPhone iPhone has become an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/588">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► enormous chunk of Apple's business the Mac is historically at an all-time high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/595">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► but still that's you know that's an established market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/601">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► and it's you know 4,000,000 5,000,000 units quarter iPad is down which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/605">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► weird is not collapsing in you know I saw somebody call it gloomy it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/610">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► gloomy emitter dade sold twenty one million iPads last quarter it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► weird though compared to iPhone because it's down 20% year-over-year iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/619">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► up enormously it's it's almost unbelievable how much it up because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► think that was 51 million iPhones they sold a year ago in the holiday quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/631">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► yeah yeah I think it's if I read the numbers rate someone broke it down a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/639">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► stronger I think they're at 69% the iPhone is 69% of apples but shift its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/644">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► revenue or profit but you know it's about it's it's roughly probably both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► and it's probably higher actually for profit but that's crazy but you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/655">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► if you were just to see if you were to take of course iPhone business away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/662">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► Apple they would still be near the top if not at the top of the biggest sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/666">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► business in terms of revenue and then all of those other businesses both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/672">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► Mac the iPad and even in you know increasingly iTunes App Store now are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/678">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► becoming the if that you broke those out there would probably be Fortune 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/684">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► companies in their own right when you think about it which is crazy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/688">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► because the store items stored on call at iTunes Plus app store is some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/692">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► number of billion order now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► yeah it's it just keeps going up and remember they used to say specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/702">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► about the App Store that you know it's it's basically they didn't use the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/707">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► sort of loss leader but they just said they run it sort of break even right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► then they you know it's a whole thought was that I was just out there to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► devices which course you could still make the argument that so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► probably the biggest part of it but they're starting to make a lot of real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/722">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► meaningful money from that store yeah and I think it's always been the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/726">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► and this is from years ago when it was the numbers were much smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/730">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► where a lot of what they made was from the flow where they collect the rainy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/734">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► and it doesn't you know they can do stuff with the money you know just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/739">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► know they hold it for a little bit and while they're holding it they can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/744">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► financial guy thing yeah a little bit of money yr old alike as that money passes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/750">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► through their fingers it you know it's good for them because they don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► know they don't immediately pass it on to their paying out right they they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► a little bit of what makes Amazon and some sort of that that aspect of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► business right and anybody has developer knows you don't get paid by Apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► till the end of the quarter or the end of the month you know it's you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► hold the money it's not like you get paid every day as people buy your appt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► right away and then you know two weeks after the month is over you get you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/779">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► your check from them in meantime they're old enough money in and making money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/784">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► it and now that it's enormous sums of money it's it's even more so yeah what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/789">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► do you think about the notion that if I'm wrong but they win the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/796">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► watchers really so they announced course it's gonna be shipping in April when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/802">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► they're not breaking that as a separate entity right that's going to be roped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/807">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► under something else I'm not sure what other services or something but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/811">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► not gonna break that out in terms of sales at least to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► correct so what they said that's what they've said yeah I know everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/819">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► gonna try to backwards engineer it clearly from the you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/823">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► wherever it is that they reported under right I think that's that's it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/827">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► interesting to think about it because so I know I know you and I know I and many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/831">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► others have long railed against Amazon for sort of not being transparent with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/837">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► their numbers whereas Apple is we still have no idea how many Kindles have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► been sold I think with this this most recent quarter which Amazon had so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/845">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► is some hints that you could finally back and do it in a way but they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► have never come out indirectly said you know what the number is and with they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/854">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► also announced that this quarter that coming quarter that they will finally be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/859">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► you know their cloud services infrastructure to be breaking out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/865">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► revenue as a separate business and so they'll be reporting on that and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/869">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► that that's smart the way that they've done it while it has been so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► knowing for anyone trying to get some idea of actually selling if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/877">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► obviously they're selling Kindle Fire phones you know those types of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► but I would imagine that Apple is first putting the Apple watch under certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/886">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► this same type of thing that that Apple TV is under though they do announce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/892">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► Apple TV numbers they just announced you know whatever it was five million sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► recently and I think its 25 million total or something like that but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/900">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► imagine that they'll they'll keep sort of Apple watch under wraps until there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► something more substantial to talk about if there ever is sort of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/911">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► Amazon is done with AWS where they wrote that into something else and now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► it's substantial they're gonna break it out and actually talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► yeah I don't know you know for the reputation that Apple has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/921">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► well-deserved I guess as to being secretive and relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/926">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► they don't like to explain themselves you know they they here's our products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/931">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► and that's it I don't like to talk about what they do they're they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► forthcoming and have been in the hole in a modern era of Apple very forthcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/938">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► in their financial reporting ya hands and so you know I think about it I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/945">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► imagine that we're going to get a I and Apple watch launch without weekend end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/951">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► of weekend sort of report as to how many units were shipped there sorry we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/957">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► actually sold unless its I don't know I can't imagine that they don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/962">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► right I guess it's it it just seems weird you know I understand it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/968">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► not surprising because their secretive and I feel especially the mix of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/973">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► know they don't and they don't think they don't reveal and I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► revealed is the mix of iPhones they don't say how many iPhone 6 is resolved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/983">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► how many six-plus how many 5 sees how many five passes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/989">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► they've never revealed that you can kind of get a little bit because they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/993">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► reveal their average selling price and so you can kind of create a formula that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► estimated based on the prices that they have but the watch everybody expects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► that the watch is gonna have an incredibly wide variance in price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► going from the sport model at 3:52 however much the gold ones gonna cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► but most people including me things going to cost at least a couple thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► yeah so the mix on that is going to be way more a way bigger divide than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► other product in Apple's business yeah and I wonder if that sort of plays into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► the notion of why they wouldn't break out to watch too because it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► because of the widespread of prices it would be sort of maybe easier maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► but you need to know where they must be selling a lot of the gold version cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► look at these numbers are boy there must be something basically no gold versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► because if the average selling prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► $450 or something like that that's right yeah yeah I don't know I'm not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► sure who knows maybe once the business settles down they will report it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► it's just that they don't know what to expect I i you know you know new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► territory so I don't know so 1211 other notion about the the watch that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► his been interesting to think about in recent weeks sort of leading up so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► do you think are they gonna do some sort of other events before April two more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► sort of put it out there in front of the world one more time with a with a proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► unveiling with all functionality that it's gonna ship with you know working my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► assumption all along has been yes but now that it's like getting close and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► starting to like you know make plans for the next couple of months and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► there's a couple conferences that I might go to and I'm thinking like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► witch with these things should i maybe not do because I should keep my schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► I'm starting to wonder why I I'd I've always thought that yes they are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► to cause I think they have to show more of the functionality I think they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► to reveal more of what the watch does with the first party software in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1134">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► words right out of the box the stuff that ending and how better to do it than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► at an event but I kind of also feel like they can't do it if they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► anything else to show he I think you're right and I think I could so I know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► that they are definitely working with some other people some third parties who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► you would imagine that they would be working with already to sort of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► things ready to go for launch and so that definitely points to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► potential other events in unveiling where they have a few of the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► players up on stage showing off what the third party can do with this thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► and I feel like there's like three levels there's there's a the first party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► software what what the watch does right out of the box there's the SDK that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► they've already revealed which is somewhat limited it's the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► where you know you have to have an iPhone app that lets iPhone apps more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► less projecting notifications to the watch and they even say in this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► totally like new open Apple you know Tim Cook you know where they even said when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► they revealed this initial third-party SDK that a full SDK with native apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► it's not native apps that the software doesn't run on the watch the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► with the current SDK runs on the phone and just sort of projects IUI on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► watch right there almost widgets I guess in a way it's like a small it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► packed into the iPhone apps yeah I you know it's I feel like it's almost new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► territory the closest thing that would be something like you know to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► something like a widget widget that you project but then I feel like there's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► not got to be but almost certainly going to be a little bit more sort of blasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► partner third parties who are working with apple and we'll have things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► aren't in that public SDK but a little bit more like if you are you know are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► inside if if you've been embraced by Apple if if they've asked you to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► the guy or a team to spend three weeks in Cupertino that you're going to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► little bit more tighter integration with the watch right to demonstrate and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► haven't looked at the STK North I did what I could really have a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► understanding of it but like something like having access to the music that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► can store on the watch like his dad available to third parties or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► herbal ok it right now it's only available tap of the audio playback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► Marco Arment has been looking into that for the obvious reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► podcast app that would be perfectly suited to actually storing some audio on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► the watch itself so it's not there yet so you could see though there would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► an obvious one for like Apple to work with a trusted third party to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► get you know give them access to it may be at Spotify year or Spotify is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► a weird wanna know how they would work but something like that you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► running out if it's something that can access those yeah and and you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► were like clearly before the initial event they had already been talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► some people like Starwood Hotels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► they said like hey you're gonna be able to check into any Starwood hotel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► usually watch as your key and get in your room just by putting to rest up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► the door which is awesome in my opinion as somebody who frequently loses his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► hotel key yeah I was D magnetized mine like when I put it I was keep them in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► pocket and I have either like or I give them to my girlfriend and she puts it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► a person she is an iPad in there in the iPad has the magnetic clasp and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► always be magnetized as the stupid key so they give me a hard time I i've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► that too but I've done it and I don't keep it in the same pocket is my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► I keep it in a different pocket and it still doesn't work I know I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► technology distances pretty bad but I don't check into hotels where I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► a frequent customer that I how many kisses 2013 can you got me in the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► that I so that you know the idea that you had it but that's clearly something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► that if they're gonna announce it at the event they would have partners lined up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► in advance and you think that also it gives them a sort of a natural way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► a little bit deeper dive into Apple pay where it's at right now you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► the six month check in or something and then also to show it on the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► actually working obviously that that seems like it's already been a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► big success for them and and will continue to be so and so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► another obvious thing that they would do it such an event would imagine yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► think and it's apple pear sort of an interesting thing for Apple to me it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► terms of how much emphasis they're putting on it and it's sort of like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► me it's sort of like what we were talking about just a couple minutes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► the App Store and iTunes Store where they're not making a ton of money on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► they're only making you know fraction of very fraction of one percent on each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► transaction it's small amount per transaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► right but it's just about getting entrenched in having me know if once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► get used to it you don't want to not have an iPhone anymore because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► and you don't have a pain it just it just is another way to sort of sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► their teeth into people's daily lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► yeah it's no the money isn't anything to sneeze at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► you know it's not bad it's a great moat is what it you know when it starts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► as and then over time but police said like with the App Store if they can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► two interesting sort of transaction volume which they're already well on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► their way to doing they're gonna be making a lot of money off of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► they can also of course renegotiate the fees with the with the banking partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► to get a little bit more money off of it I think they have a lot of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► wiggle room there to be able to to do to make that into a really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► if they get it to a scale yeah and I i just first-hand i've you know month ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► I got a moto the latest model moto acts just to sort of you know you need every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► year or two you know what's it like to live with the latest and greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► Android and one of the two me weirdest things is an act you know been trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► when I'm using it the days I'm using it I try and leave the iPhone at home just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► take the the Moto X that single weirdest thing to me out of this two things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► are really where one is not having my message is really awful because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► so many people now I don't get text messages they're all a message so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► phone is the one going off my phones and you know I pattern going off at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► with the blue messages while my mother wax which has a different SIM card you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► know isn't getting these messages and the second one is Apple pay like I every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► time I go to Whole Foods with that Moto X in my pocket I take it out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► pocket and then realized up actually have to go back and use my credit card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► to actually become a habit where I take the phone out before I even remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► that our market around with the Moto X I can use it so that's that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► for me to hear because being over here an hour a min in London it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► actually live yet I think it might be testing in a few places but I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► go around and I haven't used it here haven't seen it really anywhere it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► be might be starting to roll out in a few drug stores or they may have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► sort of thing you know where it will work with another NFC reader but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► not officially supported yet and so the only time that I've got to use it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► been when I'm back in San Francisco for work and civilian to use it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► three times or something and it's definitely you know it's it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► cracked up to be in my mind it's just sort of a magical experience which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► almost seems like it's little bit crazy when you use it for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► because it's like did i do I meet are you sure don't need to do anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► and sort of the cashier still ask you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► think I think you're good still that they had early stage period of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► the thing but so you use it regularly that's good to hear that it's it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► of already in your daily flow where'd you go besides whole foods that use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► there's like I know there's Walgreens in some of the bigger stores but due to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► like smaller things use it that you recognize the smallest are the cabs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► taxis in Philly that they have an end that that's a perfect example of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► sort of unofficial support for it where they have these doesn't have an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► logo just has you know stick your phone at the terminal logo right and it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► there and there was a total surprise to me because I know I had read those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► stories that said you know just about anyplace that says you can pay by your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► phone Apple paperwork and it's just in particular it it's so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► convenient has a lot of times when a minicab I've got my phone out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► I'm bored while I'm riding in the cabin I'm on the phone and digging your wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► out while you're in the back seat of a cab is such a pain you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► you're sitting there like a contortionist trying to get your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► out and if you can just stick your phone at the thing it's super Grand in that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► just gives you like a thing like what percent tip do you wanna give you wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► give eighteen percent Yes boom and maybe it gives kids a you know a fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► chance against things like her and left and one that caused the problem where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► have multiple times sadly enough I take over so much that I will get out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► cab without realizing I have to pay its very awkward and it seems like I'm some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► sort of crazy or but trying to scam yeah yeah yeah that's you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1733">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► same sort of convenience though like uber uber is to taxis what apple pays to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► credit cards I mean it's you get used to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► increased level of convenience and you forget you know it's it's it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► definitely it's like trying to go back to you know an outhouse after you had in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► indoor plumbing that's a good analogy I like that we're so I would imagine right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► back in the 1800's when you remember let me take a break and thank our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1770">TS</a>]
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00:29:48 ◼ ► guys who you send them your photos and they print them directly on class I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► don't know how they do it they've got like some kind of proprietary technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► they don't plan on paper and then put them in a frame underneath class they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► print them directly on the class and an email back to you in these really clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► little cardboard kids that are self-contained things that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► either use as a prop stand like if you want to put the photos on your desk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► if you wanna hang on a wall they've got a thing on the back reading but the hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► but it also contained so when they send them back to you don't have to go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► buy a frame and put the fracture prints in a frame go to Ikea and get frames and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► stuff like that you know what they send you is ready to hang on your wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► ready to put on her desk and they look awesome I say this all the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► it's it's to me it's like when they with the iPhone 4 when they first started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► laminating the LCD screen LED screen to the touch screen and it looked like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► pixels were right on the glass instead of under the glass that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► prints from fracture look like except that it's completely analog it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► know gadget but that's the equivalent for printed pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► really really good they're great gift idea they're a great way to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► like Marco Arment idea where he prints he makes fracture print square ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► perhaps if you make apps make some fracture prints of your apps you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► those as they give out promotional giveaways or whatever just an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► amazing stuff if you're going to get your pictures I can't imagine why you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► it any other way than actually just sending them to fracturing doing it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► way I am over my house I can't even count how many factors we've got in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► house so it's pretty much all the pictures from the last few years that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► have hanging up our fracture Prince really really good you can save five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► bucks off your first order if you use this code daring fireball all one word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► during fireball use that code and you'll save five bucks and the prices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► already really really good so go to fracture me.com get some prints and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► this code during fireball when you checkout and save five bucks so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► thanks to factor what I like about their site is that they compare they show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► those the sizes and the comparison is always a campbell's soup container is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► good sort of a random but but interesting way to compare yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► because it's like a universal everybody knows how bigger Canis lupus yeah I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► that if you use a hand I mean some people's hands are bigger than yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► two of the 22 points are really stick out to me one is China and it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► a huge source of growth and one of the things that I've been thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► with that in eight years in to the iPhone era in the early years it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► tucked it stood out a lot more but it still is an issue is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► carriers the carrier support and the growth of the iPhone in the early years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► I think was clearly largely constrained by the number of carriers you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► especially around the world and it wasn't until 2010 or 2011 when Verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► first got the iPhone I think 2011 but yea but it was you know there's a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► of years even in Aus but at the very least if you wanted an iPhone in the USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► it wasn't hard you could switch didn't make you know if you were on Verizon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► Sprint or t-mobile or something you have to switch to AT&T but you know say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► you want about AT&T at least they are nationwide carriers so everybody could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► get an iPhone if you want but around the world it was a huge issue like growth in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► japan was clearly constrained because they were on only on the third biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► carrier in Japan for a long time and China was a similar issue where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► weren't on the biggest national carrier in China until fairly recently yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► think it's it's almost been just about a year right I think it's almost coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► on a year that China Mobile has been right and as much as everybody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► and I you know I think the bigger screen sizes especially in Asia even called it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► out that it definitely varies by geography how much you know the mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► between six and 6 plucks it varies around the globe I don't think it's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► in China and Korea you know that in those countries that the six plus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► more popular than it is in other countries so the big screen size is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► definitely part of it but I think just the fact that it's available is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► overlooked yeah what's a what I find fascinating about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► like that at the highest level is Apple you know there was there was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► some questions when they were moving into the Chinese market will they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► able to compete with able to succeed it's a high-end product do you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► difference in and sort of buying power versus the United States and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► kind of stuff and you know subsidies and all that but now that it's clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► Apple's business is doing very well in China and growing very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► all of you know the the sort of other tech companies that there that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► stacked up against the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► you know there compared to of course Google and Facebook and you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► sweeter and some of these other things that are just how properties right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► most of them have no business in China right and Apple has a Giants massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2154">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► business that a lot of the competition or what is viewed or off often you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► mentioned in the same breath as them as their competition just doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► yeah I completely agree and this is another case where to meet Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► been if you're paying attention very forthcoming about it for years now I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► would say at least during the entire Tim Cook irri like since Steve Jobs stepped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► down as CEO Tim Cook took the reins I i feel like quarter after quarter after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► quarter Tim Cook has always made mention of China even before china became it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► almost like you know his cap and continues to keep mentioning their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► growth in China Europe and it's you know again it goes against the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► they've they've been very forthcoming about it and now it's I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► they're at the point where it's everybody's talking about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► it's gotten to be an enormous part of their business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► yeah and I wonder if part of that is just honestly because you know when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► was still in charge of operations he would go over there i mean that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► that's where all the operations were you know the majority of the operations were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► were happening and you know while China was always interesting to people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► of course there's a billion and a half people there it's the most populous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► country and and everyone knew that it was sort of coming on mine and becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► more prosperous and sort of becoming more affluence you know maybe his time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► on the ground there he just knew like no matter what we have to figure this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► and we need to do with it what it takes to sort of practice market because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► eventually we will saturate the United States market and the European market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► you know not as big already and so where are we going to find that gross and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► are position to be able to exploit that the US is right from Apple's press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2273">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► release on their their results International sales accounted for 65% of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► the quarter's revenue so exact almost exactly two thirds of their revenues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► outside the USA but that's a big time writing used to be under used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► under 50% and then it was hovering around 50 percent and now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► two-thirds are or what not correct yeah definitely is way up in a big change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► years ago many red let's say back before especially before the iPhone existed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► the first half of the last decade the mobile market around the world was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► unevenly distributed where blackberry had a huge share of the us- and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► almost non-existent elsewhere and eventually before blackberry sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► the world but I'm saying you know ten years ago blackberry was almost a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► us' centric phenomenon and like Symbian was European and Asian phenomenon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► had no almost no footprint in Aus it was huge in Europe and in Asia and almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► non-existent in Aus there weren't any major carriers that had Symbian phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► in the USA you know the companies that sold phones in the us- carriers made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► Symbian phones was weird and I always thought that Apple was a little not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► quite as as as totally USN triggers by Perry was there but it was similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► though where you you know the us- was much much stronger for Apple selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► yeah well it and the rest of it sort of it's it's not direct directly comparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► I guess because obviously blackberry was big with business users began Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► big on wall street but its market was still the at more affluent market right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► and so they both sort of track to that market for a long time now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► wondered too as time goes on I mean you know Apple is always going to be a us- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► company I mean it's you know I would say in the grand scheme of things famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► ur you know in terms of you know they have some remote employees but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► general if you work for Apple you're working in Cupertino if you're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► on product development you know hardware software they don't really have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► the St have they've just started as Seattle office they've had a good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► think the iWorks team has been in Pittsburgh for a long time so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► some people who end those individuals who can get an exception and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► remotely but for the most part people work there it's it's always gonna be aus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► company the culture is very California centric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► I think that stamping you know designed by Apple in California all their devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► is actually very honest it's that's where the company has but I do wonder as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► time goes on how much an era where spoiled while you're in London now so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► don't know but I mean I've always felt like I'm spoiled because everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► well but I wonder how much you know at what point will like China beyond like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► the day one list for iPhone because I was clearly close enough that it made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► you know I agree i mean they and they think they talked about that even in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► release of cycles it was it was two weeks later something like that that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► that the iPhone came out in China so wasn't day one but it was sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► second wave I think and I actually think about that a lot when it when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► moving over here I'm like wait a long time to get get sort of the new products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► and they come out but London's now you know sort of day one they had the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► iPad's came out the same thing you know what this reminds me of though I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► this this tracks with sort of the what hollywood's going through as well right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► so for a long time movies were released first in the us- and then then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► would go abroad like over a long period of time sometimes months now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► increasingly they're tracking much closer to the us- real-estate in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► cases they get released abroad before they get released in the us- and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► to the to the point I think you're getting at which is in hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► increasingly important is the asian markets for making the actual money like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► you know the box office in the us- is now often a minority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► piece of the pie compared to what they make overseas and so you're starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► see movies like Transformers and things that are more catering towards Asian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► audiences and I do wonder like you know when that happens with Apple when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► tip happens fully that sort of either the asian markets or a combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► Asia and some other areas around there end up being bigger than the USA like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► they change the the company in any way to make it more focused on that region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► do they do sort of specific devices I think we talked with this way back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► that like you know in order to sell an iPhone in China they would have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► like special version of it or what not and then it's a notion was always that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► they would never do that they would always just have sort of a while they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► could change up the technology inside for the different carriers or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► they would always there never stray from having sort of a streamlined product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► line that's offered around the world but doesn't change at all if china becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► like 75% of the business like in the future say I don't know either but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► you know the fact that it's within two weeks is remarkable and and I again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► think it's a combination of multiple factors I think it's the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► they're now on you know the major carrier in China which makes a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► difference in terms of how many people can get it I think the fact that china's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► economy is growing and that there's an ever-increasing number of Chinese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► citizens who have the kind of income that they could buy an iPhone I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► clearly a majority of people in China can read no no argument there but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► is a you know you know take any percentage of how many billion people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► there are in China and if 10% or something like that is a huge number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► people of the USSR ready that's right it's just enormous I think they reported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► the dave did you know they called the BRIC countries Brazil Russia India China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► which is weird because they're they're all very different but it's more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► for countries with a ton of people and you know why the income disparity I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► guess they're doing well in all four of those countries yeah I would I i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► looked into it but I would imagine that so india is probably the furthest behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► that seems to be the case with basically everything because they're well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► also have a billion people there and I think they they would I think they're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► pace to eventually Eclipse China in terms of population but they say they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► have a billion people were a net well over a billion people right now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► society is quite different there and you know it's still the iPhone is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► viewed as is way out of reach for most people whereas in China you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► a there's as you mention there's a growing segment of the population that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► can and is buying the iPhone right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► yeah and I think I think in broad strokes that's exactly right that India [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► may be growing faster population wise but that the economy is nowhere near as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► strong as China's in terms of a growing you know western style middle class and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► thats Xiaomi rate is going after night is like their big focus because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► know that they have an opening there that Apple probably can't go after at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► least anytime in the fourth in the next couple of years or something right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► totally agree and I think that they have a great opportunity but I feel like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► of the can you still see it you still see it where it's you know when Jeremy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► comes out with something and it's what does it mean for Apple how can I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► Arab huge problem for Samsung and for all the other hand Android handset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► makers and not the Douro irrelevant Apple but it's it's all in that segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► underneath what Apple is targeting that's right I mean just look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► what has happened to Samsung they've been well there you know they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► making a lot of money their growth has been just just totally eaten into in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► likely by show me and Apple of course at the top end but they're being squeezed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► your not unlike Microsoft to squeeze in the USA from sorta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► you know the Chrome OS on the low end and you know MacBook stole sales rising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► it's the same thing just happened just a very condensed time to Samsung it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► incredible how fast it happen to Samsung but you know they're in there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► slick precarious situation right now because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► yeah I actually think Samsung revenue and profits are actually down just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► good yeah just reported there was one other thing about china is I wonder so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► another thing about the Chinese market that that you hear come up time and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► again is actually that that the watch industry is pretty massive there is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► the population grows and affluence they're sort of looking to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► different traditional areas of affluence like wine and and watches of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► one and so what does that mean for Apple watch there and I don't know but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► could mean major things if if the product is successful that bad you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► it because it may be from day one it's a bigger seller in China that it is new s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► yeah I think so down for maintenance on the show before I saw a documentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► couple months ago is great its called red obsession have you seen this now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► it's about the wine industry great documentary just know the name red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► obsession but the gist of it is about how that Asian market has completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► disrupted sales and price of why I like that they go in those Chinese buyers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► wholesale wire will go into like you know high-end French winemaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► and just by the Delta they would just come in and just say late will buy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► will just take it will just take all of all this is great you're here on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► year is this this you know this Bordeaux is fantastic just give it to send all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► it to China that's it all and then you know like there's people who are used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► bind one from this place in america and you know elsewhere in Europe and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► like what you mean you don't have anything like that I have a very I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► a first-hand account of that I was you know being in being situated in Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► now it's pretty easy to obviously get around to go places like Paris and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► think we were in Switzerland over the summer and we're in a small little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► vineyard place in the middle of nowhere and we are there with the only other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► people in the room is a is a chinese family sort of tasting the wine and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► look around and we were you thinking about buying a bottle or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► had so few bottles that were actually you know your marks that could be sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► to sort of people who walk in so much was earmarked to go to China and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► print Chinese labels and this is you know in the middle of some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► Switzerland in that's like there this little this little winery ran they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► experiencing you know just what you're talking about where they just know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► their market now is basically China is a huge part of it and what the percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► was but save 75% and then the rest of world is like 25 percent so they restore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► some for you know for the rest of the world but then the most of it is just is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► just going to be sent to China and you know extrapolate from that what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► if china if their economy keeps growing and bigger and bigger percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► their citizens grow into what we would consider like middle or upper class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3026">TS</a>]
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01:02:49 ◼ ► on the back for getting the five seed just because I did never bought into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► being cheap but I think I missed the boat just by just by thinking well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► not going to be cheap isn't enough I almost feel like in hindsight when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► came out it wasn't even today didn't want to sell in the first year but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► almost wasn't even meant for that year I think it was meant for the long haul and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► like where it is now at the you know the free with contract level of right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► found that it had you know the new aspect ratio for the screen it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► three and a half inches it was four inches and sixteen by nine and the guy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► do that I agree with you i think they're proud of the industrial designer I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► Apple really likes that look and I think again I think you're right it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► astute that it it does seem to be much more in harmony with the aesthetics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► Iowa S seven and eight then the aluminum found the 5s sexes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3832">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► and I know a lot of people not tons but I know enough you know who who have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► five see because they just don't like the way it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► slower even though yeah yeah yeah you know that the iPhone a sort of gotten to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► the point where you know whatever the difference in performance is doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► matter they're not waiting for anything anyway it doesn't take any longer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► mostly waiting for stuff to download right Instagram doesn't run slower on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► the five seats you just waiting for the pictures to come down the pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► yeah just like the way it looks and I almost feel it was all about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► establishing an aesthetic that fits at the lower end of the product line so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► that they don't have the free with contract phone being a premium that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► really interesting thought I I totally understand what you are saying there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► because it it it's weird when you buy something brand new like say the the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3894">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► now and then you know in two years this is going to be viewed as sort of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► quote-unquote whether it's fair not the cheap version right it's going to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► only will it we all know things too great in value over time as they're sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► of used in everything but it's weird that the notion that as soon as you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► it you know that in two years this will be on you know sort of Verizon had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► spread saying like three and this is this is the cheap version now and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► Apple can get around that by creating a product that sort of separate from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► high end to begin with from the high in meeting their actual most expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► things even though it as we just talked with its not that much cheaper that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► creates a different sort of psychological dynamic to it I also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► and I so I'd written opposed to a long time ago maybe a year ago I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► talking about like how hot it is that every advert advertisement I see around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► but I think it was around still San Francisco and sort of I think I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► that sort of made me think about this that every and I was saying was for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► iPhone 5 seed and not the 5s there are few ads for 5s but almost all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► are certainly around the bay area before the fight see and I first interpreted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► that as it must not be selling well in Apple feels like they need to pump up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► their advertising disorder boosted up and that may have been the case I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► really know but I did get a lot of pushback foreign I think some of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► astute push back thinking like actually this is sort of the perfect device along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► lines of what we're just like that this is sort of the perfect device for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► to showcase in their advertisements cuz its colorful it sort of goes perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► with iOS 7 it's it's sort of part of this the playful adds that Apple likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► to do and so it ended up being in a way like the the poster child for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► time for for all those ads around different cities in the USA certainly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► the USA dunno but there's the world and what if it was like you know just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► of product that they thought was really beautiful and they knew that it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► sort of get people in the stores by having these colorful ads and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► know that either they buy this device and that's great for them or they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► know they decide to buy the more expensive device yeah I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► post and it actually why brother but I don't know how I look it up in open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► show but I do remember that post and I remember disagreeing with it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► was right around the time when it first started dawning on me that I had had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► underestimated the five see and like I said I think that this year is the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► where the five see is exactly where Apple wanted to be I feel like it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► feel like the hardest part of Apple's business is now that they're they've hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► these insane quantities for iPhones it's really really hard and they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► pipeline is so long like how do you how do you ship 74 million new iPhones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► who knows what percentage of them where they are 26 but I think it's a majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► quarter how do you make that many in the first quarter that it's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► well part of them how they do it is that it planned out years in advance I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► like I think it's about a two-year pipeline for their iPhones you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► more or less that the iPhone 6 in six-plus where a you know about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► years in the making and it's dangerous for them and I feel like that's partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► why there I think in hindsight they were probably a year late to the big phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► market I think I could if they can go back and do everything over again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► think that they would probably put the iPhone 6 in six-plus one year ahead on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► the schedule as it was but it takes too long for them to get everything set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► so they can make these qualities they can't act fast and just say ok we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► make a five and a half inch phone but we're only gonna be able to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► million of them because it's new and we're not ready for it what they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► do that they can't have a phone that they can only make a million of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► yeah I agree but I feel like the five CEO was something where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► thinking ahead over a year and they wanted to have a phone that sat at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► sort of you know at all in fact they've gone to four levels right they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► the six plus which is $100 more for the same specs compared to the sex so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► they've got the six plus where you pay $100 premium for the bigger screen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► the extra pixels then there's the sexes which sits where the iPhone always had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► the new iPhones always have the same price levels than one cut down $100 down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► as the 50 S which is still a premium device right the 5s is an end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► you know we we could do all sure that but in my opinion is still my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► iPhone that they've ever made and now the five see at that free with contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► level is so much more natural than if they were selling if they had stuck to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► the original plan and hadn't made this one device that is so unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► with you know the plastic body and it never was at the high end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► effectively the five see is where if they had stuck to the plan and done the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► same thing they've done every other year that would still be the up the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► iPhone 5 without the s right and instead which is like visually indistinguishable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► from the 5s accepted you know it doesn't have to jad but at a glance it looks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► same whereas now it at a glance it's instantly recognizable as yes that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► good point I definitely think I've written about that as well that's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► of notion as well that there was a problem with slides where they look the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► same and so it's not it's like well yes they're faster inside like what is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► is it that sort of differentiating on the outside there was nothing for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► while and now the five-star see gives you a very differentiated factor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► what do you think then you know sort of the obvious lead into that is what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► you think they end up doing the next iteration so we're coming up on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► the fall of 2015 the assumption I would assume is that they do an iPhone 6 ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► and then do they have an iPhone 6 see and what do they do with the do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► have up plus S and how do they keep going be right how big would it be four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► point seven inches or would write 5.5 would it be both I don't think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► be both I think that they say it's a question I I'm really kind of at a loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► to guess what they're gonna do this year like I kind of guessed they're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► at the high end success success plus which should be this look a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► that you know just the typical ass you know tick tock provisions right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► but then what do they do it that pricing level below where the 5 S's now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► really wonder do they keep this six and six plus and I'm so we're getting pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► convoluted that it that he has to what what the offerings are ya I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► so I kind of feel and I kinda feel like the way that there and it it's somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► arbitrary cuz I don't think that the actual cost is that much different for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► the different sizes but I kind of feel like if I had to guess maybe like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► call it a sexy and it would be a four-inch screen but with the specs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► the iPhone sex so that's interesting because one thing that has always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► humorous to me for the past couple of years now remember when the iPhone first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► came out and everyone was clamoring like we need an iPhone Nano and you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► this is when the iPhone was a 3.5 inch screen the original iPhone and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► are saying it's too big like we you know where we're coming from where the flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► phones like that and the razor and things the Motorola RAZR we need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► smaller device I gotta want anything bigger and now it's like no one talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► about that anymore and when you do hold even even a 55 s you know next to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► six plus it's sort of comical how small it seems and I don't even know unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► I'm hoping for was let alone you know some of the even older ones but do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► think that they go to a world where we have now the six-inch screen the fuck is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► it a five five and a half inch screen and then is it a four-inch screen or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► they do some other like variation on that but is the three skews it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► me like three screws is pretty good because you can offer different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► that each for what people want some people wanna smoke might want a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► phone the problem of course is what developers it's a pain in the ass to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► supports all of these different screen sizes still and so Apple traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► as you know is has been pretty good about retiring older sort of technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► and making it so that you don't have to support that rather you know they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4436">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► push forward but what do you think that they would do there I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► it's interesting to me i i whether they say four point seven like one way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► could go with me to say four point seven is the new small i font size and now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► $99 mid tier $99 with contract mid tier phone is also 4.7 inches they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► that and then that to me would be a strong signal that the four inch size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► you know I'm sure the David still have something at the you know free with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► contract level that still has a Florence screen at the end of next year but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► it's on the way out but on the other hand I could see them going nowhere they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► still say you can still get a four-inch phone you know we've got you know small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► medium and large touch screen sizes and you know four-inch is our mid tier size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► they would you know have the same 908 from the iPhone so the camera from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► iPhone sex but a four inch form factor but with that form factor be plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/4503">TS</a>]
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01:24:29 ◼ ► wasn't at the events the unveiling and so I didn't get a chance to sort of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5069">TS</a>]
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01:25:09 ◼ ► lot more bullish on Apple iTouch then I was to begin with not to say that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► bearish on it but I was wondering I was sort of wondering a lot of what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► talked about sort of you know how many people are going to pay a premium for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► for a cold one how many people are going to buy the the addition one of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5121">TS</a>]
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01:25:29 ◼ ► mean and then when they released SDK and just like we talked about earlier it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5129">TS</a>]
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01:27:46 ◼ ► publicly they're so confident about it that to me it's it seems like it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► be reckless to bet against it because they're not they're not the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► people who breathlessly promote everything and anything that they do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► agree with you definitely I think that that is something that makes it so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► can obviously you can't write it off we could ever write it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► being from Apple these days but their confidence is is pretty fascinating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► the way that they're positioning it there obviously still doing this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► world tour of going around attacking the various people in the fashion industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► hiring the various people in the fashion industry to to bring them in to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► sure that they're ready to go for for this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► was it all adds to sort of the the feeling and getting but I also just I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► starting to get a better sense of what I think that they think they can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► it I do think that the early days will be maybe a little bit underwhelming at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► first because they're only going to work with you know a handful of of people as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► they always do behind the scenes to get third party apps order ready to go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► when this thing launches in there gonna be obvious things that it'll be largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► predicated on push notifications I would assume but I do I am starting to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► more that there's there's different types of things that third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► developers will be able to accomplish and maybe it takes to the second SDK the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► more robust thing for its a really get there but you know I'm reminded back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► the when the iPhone first came out and you know we had sort of developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► making the web apps because they didn't have access to actually making native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► apps the time only Apple did so it's not exactly what's going on here but we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► getting a little bit of what feels like a muted SDK for third-party developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► right now I think it's somewhat analogous I think it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► better than that web apps of 2011 but it's close it's it's not a bad analogy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► agree and so now I'm trying to think through you know when Apple released the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► second sorta SDK for the iPhone that that allowed for tornadoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► second sorta SDK for the iPhone that that allowed for tornadoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► fat development it was insanely exciting to everyone but no one really knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► would happen we knew games would come and and they would be sort of silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► little apps begin with which they were there were you know many and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► wasn't clear there would ever be like big businesses right real business is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► built on top of that and look at it now I mean how many how many billion dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► businesses have been built on top of the iPhone alone baby you know any Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► and iPhone is what kicked it off it's like Instagram and all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► things that are that were you know I was only at the time and is there a way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► is what I'm trying to think through is there a way for the watch to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► eat your instinct is that sounds ridiculous right like that that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► that there's a swatch the small little device that's that's that's just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► like more of a novelty or is it going to actually be something that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► businesses can be built on and I think that there's two camps there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► people who believe that eventually we will get to that place in there can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► sort of new new interactive paradigms with like sort of the tactic feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► stuff in there will be new types of messaging apps that we haven't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► of yet but then there's the other group that i think is more along the lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► luck the Apple watchers what it is it's just another mode for the iPhone iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► it's a way you can't use it right now without the iPhone it it's a paired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► device with that and so it makes the iPhone more attractive to iPhone owners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► and it makes it gives people may be another reason to buy an iPhone rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► than choosing an Android device or some other similar device yeah I i dont know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► I feel like both of those scenarios are possible I do feel like ultimately it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► you know just the march of technology is that eventually it will be independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► like it won't need you know it will have its own internet access without an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► just did it to me exactly the way that the iPhone used to need a Mac or PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► running iTunes to sync I mean it's so it seems crazy they need to get contacts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► your iPhone was single computer using a cable and I kind of feel like the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► needing a phone it within Bluetooth range to get internet is the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► like you know three four five years from now we're gonna laugh at the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► you couldn't get text messages on your phone unless you were within 20 feet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► your are under watch unless you within 24 your phone but in the meantime I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► feel like that's the way that you bootstrap it is that it's again like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► said I come over around the iPhone think that's how it debuts and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► sudden you realize you know two three four years from now it's a town that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► right I agree with that and I think I think they're going about it the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► way with everything that they've sort of shown so far you know having used a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► of these other sort of wearable devices they're all the old range from either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► very bad to sort of just mediocre there's no great one right now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► think a lot of it is that a lot of a lot of these companies have just basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► taken the phone paradigm that the smartphone the touchscreen paradigm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► slapped on the wrist and apple with this crown sort of interaction there trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► to actually think about what they should do i mean you're putting your hand when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► you're touching the screen all the time you're completely covering the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► like why would you do that you know so like the crown where you can zoom in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► out that that's like sort of is an obvious thing in hindsight that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► is is is going to be sort of a killer feature that everyone ends up copying of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► course but it's it's things like that that make me more excited about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► prospects for it though I agree with sort of everything we're saying which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► that the first iteration it will take awhile to approve these things that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► I think that the crown in particular is one of the reasons why why did announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► it when they announced it well part of it is like I wrote I wrote this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► that they wanted to announce it before it went into production because once it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► went into production it was inevitably going to leak and in fact did leak there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► was a big one day before they announced that there actually were like blueprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► that leaked that that were you know in hindsight we're pretty much spot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► exactly spot-on they didn't get a lot of publicity because they weren't real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► pictures but if it did happen even a week earlier somebody you know could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► have done like a 3d rendering and and and spoiled that they really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► be the ones to unveil it and they're glad they did a six months is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► outer limit I think for when Apple could do it I think any no I think it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► possible that in in like an ideal world if everything had gone according to plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► maybe it wouldn't be shipping in April maybe it would have been shipping like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► in February and it's just you know enough bugs still remain enough kinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► still remain in software that they need the extra two months before they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► comfortable shipping but it also I definitely heard that they did want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► do this in the fall and it just originally yes definitely yes like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► hindsight with some of Tim Cook's remarks like it all things D or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► you know I think the year before that they you know they have their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► to release all throughout 2014 yeah I think like two years ago they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► thinking like a holiday release for 2014 so I think it's I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► definitely the case I've heard the same thing to like internally that it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► know now that they're shocked I don't think it's like a disaster I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► it's just not the best case scenario yeah there's soft it and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► largely software rather than yes the hardware that's going on its software is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► hard to nail this this new sort of paradigm that they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► yeah I think that the hardware that the and who knows I mean you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► they're letting us crack open the demo units back in September but I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► sure that the hardware they showed us at the event in September is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► hardware tend to show they're pretty sure that it is yeah the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► they're like internally like Johnny Ives team is already working on the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► revision of the hardware like they've you know the hardware is done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► defined and you know it's that screen and that chip and that medal and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► know everything down to the band that stuff is all done it yet I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► all software that's still being worked on and of course the component of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► is the battery life and what do you think about certain that I'm sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► saw the mark fuhrman report about the the breakdown of the battery life issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► and so it's you know I think was 2.5 hours of of full active usage which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► are you gonna be sitting there on your watch for two two and a half straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► hours to using it straight through no but what do you say is you is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► in the ballpark you thought it would get to yeah I think that the basic just is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5815">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► that they need to make it so there are fewer and act if you use your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► watch thoroughly that you can still get through a day no problem I've seen some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► stuff you know the demo units they showed us and all the screenshots the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► showers don't show a battery meter all the time and the the simulator in Xcode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► does so there's some question as to whether you know where they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► actual production one's going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► how are you going to check the battery like it seems as though what they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► shown us so far is that you're not supposed to even I'm sure there some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► to do it like go into settings in there you know if you really want to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► your battery they'll be a way I feel like what they want to do is just get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► so that it you know if you charge it every night you'll be fine and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► have to worry about it and you forget to charge it one night you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► gonna it's probably died the next day and you know one day so as we know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► the phones now and iPad and everything else like the biggest drop our drawers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► screen of all these things and I think that it seems like they're doing smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► things with that the other what sort of smart watchmakers haven't done by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► way which is when you get sorted notifications coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► rather than eliminate the screen right away they're using their haptic saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► that happen to be able to alert you to that so the screen is going to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► probably less than you think it is because we all see these smart watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► out there right now that light up when whenever you get something and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► not going to be the case with this yeah I mentioned last week with intent on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► show that from what I've heard from a couple people again not firsthand not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► anybody who has watched but all secondhand from people who talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► people who are testing alleges that an enormous amount of effort has gone into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► making it so that when you do want to look at the screen it comes right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► like the detection of your wrist and you know the the motion detection of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► angle the watches at about this you know the person is wants to look at me right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► now and then when you move it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► goes off that they've got you know an enormous amount of work over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► three years has gone into just turning the screen on and off when it wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► be on and off I don't think is interesting it's you know I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► reason to doubt that those are the actual numbers I just feel though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► it's like it almost doesn't it isn't really helpful to thinking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► you're going to use the watch it's it's just sort of their enumerate -ing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► right I'm a hundred percent in agreement with that it's sort of its thinking it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► it's yes it's it's sort of the spec sheet it's what it will be like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► were just in a in a vacuum if you just said like give me the numbers of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► it's going to do when it's like this but I think the key is that the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► it's been engineered the Apple watch will change the way that people at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► right now sync that they're going to use it it's not going to be all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► coming on and it's not going to be a hard time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► turning the screen off for you to hit a button to turn the screen on and off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► all that good stuff and so will end up lasting a lot longer than people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► sort of thinking about just reading that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► that stat line yeah the polar opposite to me would be the the now defunct iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► Nano or whatever I was called the one that was square and then you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► watch France yet that tick tock tick art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► upstart I did too which i think at the time was like that broke the record for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► like it did and it really was well done it was as well done as a turn your iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► Nano into a watch could be done I think but I got it I drop my iPod into it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► you know five minutes later took it off and never use it again because the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► of a watch that you had to hit a button to read drove me nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► it would you know cuz you have you know there was no motion detection cos iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► wasn't meant for that so you do you know to see the time or do anything with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► you had to use your other hand and hit the button and it was you know and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► know I can see why some people who liked it but for me as somebody who wears a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► watch and just wants to glance at the time it was maddening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► Apple watches the opposite that and that sort of the also leads to do when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► say it would be going for a while but I don't know when we'll talk again so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► there's so with that you know you also had if you wanted to listen music which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► is what you do of course mainly with an iPod you had to have you know your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► white earbuds plugged into your wrist and then they would be going up to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► ears right and it's like if you're trying to run you could you know rip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► your butt out of your ears if you were for some reason you moving arms too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► something that leads to a question which I have no idea but I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► they're going to do this anytime soon or if this weight still sort of the fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► over the next year or something that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► they have to be doing something with Bluetooth earbuds right i mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► no way that they can they're they're already saying that you'll be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► store music and and some podcasts and though it'll have limited storage be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► able to do that and they want you to be running with it and and you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► sort of you know be able to listen to music and they're saying I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► said in the press 0 whatever you can use your Bluetooth running people had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► special running Bluetooth headset today are using their decency or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► that's not gonna be good enough for Apple they're going to want to do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► yeah I it's a perfect has to happen eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► idea and again I think having used the iPod Nano with the tick tock watch strap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► I had the exact same thing I thought well when i when I sent to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► Kickstarter I thought I'm probably not gonna like this as a watch because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► not gonna like a watch that I have to hit a button to see but I might like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► as something to use my iPod when I go running and in fact I hated it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► it was a clear what you said that having the cable go to my wrist and my arm is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► moving like while you run it was maddening it it was just felt like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► I was like I don't know it felt like the sort of thing that you do you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► like like when you're on probation and they put like a right but I can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► but feel the same thing with them with the apple i mean the watch clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► doesn't even have a headphone jack so it's I i you know it's going to end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► does do Bluetooth audio so if the watch does Bluetooth audio and the future is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► to not have a cable between your headphones in your device period Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► has to do Bluetooth my question though is if Apple goes and does bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► headphones of their own they going to be included with devices or near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► and or if they're not will they do themselves or will it be like beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► thing well so remember how they used to have I think they still probably sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► them they they had those more high-end version of any ear earbuds I bought them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► at one point they were like $100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► remember that the other ones they're pretty good they were ok they had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► three different sort of sizes that did you get the year but gel things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► could start sticking your ears depending on how big your ears are and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► ok though they're definitely better than the old version of the earbuds that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► with iPods and everything I don't think there are better than the new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► the ear buds at least I don't use those higher-end versions I'm not even sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► they sell them I think that they still do but I would imagine that's how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► do it at first at least they saw him as like as a probably expensive to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► more expensive than the current iteration so maybe they saw him for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► those $100 and then eventually they sort of move towards that because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► something I always think about you know like what else can they do to improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► the iPhones right now and the biggest pain point now it's honestly untangling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► the damn your buds when they're in my pocket I know that they're like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► everyone I complain about this from time to time on Twitter and everyone comes at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► me with like you should get these ties are you know this is like third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► products like make it better but like really I just want I don't want to carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► around more stuff I just wanna have my your earbuds and I want to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► phone in my pocket and I want the earbuds not to somehow defy the laws of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► physics and get so tangled up that it seems like you have to cut them almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► in order to untangle them and so another thing that really strikes me in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► winter too because it's so much more of a pain in the ass when you're wearing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► coat and yeah you've got these these things dangling when do you there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► good way to do it like if you wanna listen to podcasts like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► walked almost everywhere in the city and the run errands and that's when I listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► to podcasts and it's great but when it's winter and I have to wear a coat it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► like what i do do I put it in my pocket and start listening to put the code over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► the headphones and then like it pulls but if you put the code on first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► string it over the code it does us no good way with the cable as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► when you're not wearing a coat you can just put your phone in the pocket and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► it's not too much of a hindrance to have the headphone cable going from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► put a winter coat on it there's no better way to start to do have you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► you tried one of the Bluetooth ones before so it's like funny you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► going back into the late nineties when they first came out obviously they sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► of got this douchey you know sort of or around them but I use the use the jaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► bone era I think it's called the other era quite often now the problem is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► it's only obviously one year so it's not great for music you can do it for music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► but for podcast and stuff it's pretty good it's the only other downside is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► with one ear its you have to turn it up quite high sometimes like if you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► in a loud environments be able to hear and I never use it for calling or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► anything but I don't honestly don't make them any calls so I don't use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► speaker part but I use it a lot as just a listen to things it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► wonky the job on software isn't great and so I can take a little while to pair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► and sometimes drops and it's great not great audio quality would say but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► good for podcast yeah I would probably enjoy that if I had one but I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► tried to yeah you know I haven't tried any of the others but the job on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► pretty solid I kind of wonder what the form factor would be for like an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► Bluetooth headset like you know what would they be connected somehow and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► so what would it be like a thing that goes around the back your head that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► interesting point there I have seen both have seen ones that are like that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► they have a saying that goes on the back of your head I think they've also seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► one where they stole that something like dangling but it's not connected you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► someone to be a battery so it can raise it can't just be the earpieces you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► like ideally it would just be too weird pieces they put in and apparently but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► then you need two batteries and they'd be that one of the reasons why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► the jaw bone one is sort of bigger than it even needs to be is just cause the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► battery and battery that great either that thing last four it says four hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► of talk time I think it's it's usually like two and a half hours maximum last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► yeah I feel like thats it's gotta happen but i dont have no idea how it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► I feel like I had from cables gotta go the way of the dodo and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► too that's got to be a motivation for Apple is just staring at my iPhone 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► right now I can't help but look at it and think that the headphone jack has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► now gating factor on making making it the biggest part it you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► lightning adapter is so much thinner than the headphone jack and i and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► whatever whatever whatever the thickest port is on your device is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► the next one apple gets rid of and right now it's the headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► well and and obviously they're starting I think pretty soon as I think they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► a few already but they there was some story that they're going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► shipping the Lightning ones right so you'll be able to do audio through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► lightning port and so I'd imagine that's how they do it maybe even during next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► year's something that they just sort of get rid of the headphone jack and and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► god I can't wait for people to complain about that that will be you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► going to be the next getting rid of the optical drive and you know killing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► mouse and all these types of things like when they killed at audio that headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► jack it's going to be as it's gonna be a shit storm by and people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► say it's because they own beats and beats that's right it's an antitrust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► investigation you know like call it but all the scheme to get you to buy Beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► headphones but I would assume that that's what they're going to do it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► like only natural because you can actually drop it you can draw power from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► that to which is pretty interesting right so you could have a spare of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► headphones that are connected still but you know like the noise cancelling ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► where right now you need like triple A batteries but they'd like the Bose one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6597">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► right that that cancel out the noise but they need triple A batteries put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► min if you could just draw the power from the phone that's interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► that doesn't believe that actually probably exacerbate the the court issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6608">TS</a>]
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01:50:56 ◼ ► have a power port charges while you're while you're using their liking to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6656">TS</a>]
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01:51:15 ◼ ► noise canceling so they didn't need the battery obviously bad or no I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6675">TS</a>]
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01:51:30 ◼ ► still have it I mean a little bit just looking at it but it's real and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► they do stereo speakers and do you think you know at the bottom where they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► have the one sort of side is is the speaker could they do both would they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6699">TS</a>]
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01:52:06 ◼ ► find a phone that does anything you know there's some obscure Sony one that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► like speaker on the top and the bottom so when you hold the phone in horizontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6730">TS</a>]
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01:52:53 ◼ ► knows that set up being legitimate at all but I think there was at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► though it only makes sense if they were at the top and bottom not left and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► because that's how you watch video and video or when you want it like who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► if you alert sounds come in stereo or what they could do if they do actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► do as some sort of keyboard device with iPad iPad pro maybe they could do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► just like they do with MacBooks now where they have to speaker sort of built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxyUvs0/6798">TS</a>]
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