00:00:00 ◼ ► you really want to talk about college baseball away that's why we're here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► Chicago Cubs 2015 national league champs I gotta tell you I am delighted to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► dad Joe Maddon out at the Elysee that I think he is i think is the best manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/11">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► in baseball I really do well I i heard similar things about Don Baylor Dusty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/18">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► Baker and Lou Piniella before they signed with the Cubs to sell it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/26">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► sweet Lou was a good manager he I i think i mean you got it like you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/31">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► he's got a certain style and intensity but he was good manager with the Yankees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► I thought he was a good manager with Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► did actually succeed fairly well with the Cubs but they are so you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/44">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► yeah they were better than the Cubs usually are but they weren't they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► got up to good now don't add that it hurt me because loop in Ala unless I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/54">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► my memories really shut he was managing Seattle in 95 the year right before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/60">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► Yankees started their their dynasty but if you're headed Mariners had right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/67">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► Mattingly was Mattingly's last season in his first time he got in the postseason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/73">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► and when he played mattingly played great he had a great series but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/78">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► with salt in the wound that it was Yankee legend well we'll see I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/86">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► actually so I'm actually going to CES for the first time I remember this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/91">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► something we talked about either a year or two ago yeah I might actually put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/95">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► little money on the Cubs will see ya you know you got to do that to you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/99">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► gotta make a profit that I was gonna do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► profits are fine for two reasons one you get great odds I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► cuts are a bit about their probably like 15 2010 at least maybe more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/111">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► something I don't know number two you have the challenge of keeping track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► that little piece of paper in my right and it's like i don't even think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/119">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► print them on the super high quiet like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► that heat transfer in a regular paper receipts you get from retail stores and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/128">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► if you like lead out in the Sun or something it'll fade to nothing or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► your wallet for ya you know it's so you can I find that so weird cuz you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/138">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► think you know I guess it's because they don't lose if your ticket but breakage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/143">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► and there's a Kickstarter casino receipts preserver get ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/150">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► jet or something you know something's gonna last you should get good odds on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► that when did you decide to go to see yes a few weeks ago it was presented as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/163">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► an option for me here at courts and I've never been and I figured this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► perfect year to go you know when I have the the name of a big news agency behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/174">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► me to get good meetings and that kind of stuff but also work for a site that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► doesn't turn out you know hundreds of of stories today so I won't have to file an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/184">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► article every half an hour that sounds like the way to do it yes can be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/189">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► it's a perennial topic it's like my my second week of January topic every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► on this show is why I thought last year I should maybe go to see one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► years I gotta go and I didn't do it this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► yeah I think that was us last year graduated I do it every year I have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► thought well I'll let you know how it is and it's it's it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► where my natural inclination towards procrastination is just fails because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/214">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► it's really can't do it at last what you could do it at the last minute but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► was super expensive yeah and it's kind of annoying like they make you book your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/223">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► hotels through their centralized system in the flights are expensive are sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► out so even you know not when I booked a month and a half hour was still kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► annoying but yeah there's a ton of people from New York so yes I got think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/237">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► if you lived in you know Joe random city like I bet philadelphia's biggest fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/245">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► probably aren't that different that week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► people from here they go but I tells ya can't wait to hear your report now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/252">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► told you think that's the way to do it is to do it as a publication that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► measured tone not a bombardment of we gotta have 30 post today and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► yeah that's what I was talking to someone from a large consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/271">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► electronics company the other day and they like so you coming to our press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► conference you come into who are media day and I'm like nope I'm not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► getting there until Tuesday after all that crap has already happened so we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/282">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► it yet so no waiting in line for you know stupid wherever they're gonna show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/288">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► big big TVs and home automation stuff probably had no idea that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/295">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► question I wonder what the big thing will be TV's are always I think my sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/300">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► yeah I mean TVs but my sense is that this is the year that all the connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► home stuff starts to jail so you know home automation stuff and refrigerators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/310">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► that talk to your pet about watches watches gonna be huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► oh yeah watching us too because a and Apple watchers side and right where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/323">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► out it's a real thing and it's already starting to accelerate where there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/330">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► know like when they first announced it back it and I O in June there were two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/335">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► watches and they both really cranky they sucked then the motor 360 or as I call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/339">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► the 270 and now there's been a trickle of watches that are dead you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/346">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► seem reasonable they seem like something that people might want to consider yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/351">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► we'll see that that'll be interesting I've gotten a few pitches on like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/357">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► shirt that have sensors built in so you can measure your heart rate through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/363">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► shirt so we'll see about that because the other thing that makes it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/368">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► watches is then going back to Applewhite without a watch and we're clearly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/373">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► what's before say yes right and probably not during either unless they do one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/381">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► those silly Apple leak type things were ok but that means any consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/386">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► electronics company that wants to bet on smart watches because you know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/390">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► betting on what Apple is interested in is pretty good way forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/397">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► they're going to want to get that stuff out before as soon as they can write to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/401">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► each piece chance to show off their slate St bombers last came over right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/405">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► sweet yeah I have a little bit of follow-up from previous episodes of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/412">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► of this broadcast Star Wars follow up a little bit of Star Wars follow have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/418">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► go back to the Merlin episode was $99.99 for episode two go so we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/425">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► Roman numerals in the Super Bowl and then in a subsequent week followed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/433">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► that they are the NFL is indeed dropping the Roman numerals for not this year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/438">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► Super Bowl next year's 50 which would have been just tell and it looks stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► so they're just going to put Super Bowl 50 and I was happy about the end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/448">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► they're only doing that for Super Bowl 50 because I look so stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► starting with Super Bowl 51 going back to the stupid Roman numerals so bad news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/459">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► Star Wars and I don't follow up on Star Wars otherwise I really funny that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/468">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► Stephen Colbert defending the new set lightsaber oh nice operate in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/475">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► but it was really really funny what do you think of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► well I don't really know much about Star Wars I know I'm sorry although I saw my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/485">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► first exposure so I don't know my dad showed me Caddyshack and those types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/493">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► movies instead so we really has a poor household not a not a beatles household [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/497">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► so but the first time ever saw Star Wars was when they re-released them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/503">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► mid-nineties probably the biggest screen that existed in Chicago at that point it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► at this movie theater downtown called McClurg Court was like you know five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/515">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► times bigger than any other movie screen so that was kinda cool and we saw those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/520">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► and i've seen that and still never seen jet I am bad I need to do this that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/524">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► crazy I thought I get it now anyway I can say but I I thought the new light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/533">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► saber looks fine that's cool you don't have an opinion you know it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/540">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► can have no opinion either bit of this is really unusual but why not let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/546">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► his last week's episode whiskas we were talking about Bond movies and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/552">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► brought up that the last and be one on Her Majesty's Secret Service David under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/559">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► the impression that it was universally everybody hated it everybody news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/567">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► mistake and it turns out I am correct on this that it's very divisive most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/570">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► seem not to like it and agree it was a dud but there's a fairly sizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/575">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► contingent upon movie fans who who think it's our favorite or one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/579">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► favorites one of the better ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► and have not seen that one is it what is polarizing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► well I think it's I think it's a weird story I think I think lies in bees take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/589">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► on the character was off I just I just don't buy them as other people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/598">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► he's great though it's it's you know he's definitely not sean connery that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/603">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► for sure and I don't know about the story the way the stories written that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/608">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► just think it died but some people really like the the direction some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/614">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► people think the action sequences are are some of the best of that era and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/619">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► think I should hunt and in the earlier movies he was the editor of the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/626">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► and he got to direct this one and some people think that that helped make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► action sequences better because he knew how to shoot them to give the editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/638">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► the footage that they would need you know that in editors perspective on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/642">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► directing makes for better action sequences from Chris Holt every drunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► Redhawk I don't but I am aware of it and I appreciate its existence of God he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/650">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► he's a big fan he didn't think he wrote about all the bunnies he really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/656">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► nations' I think he's at nations' on Twitter great guy who works at black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/661">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► pixel really smart guy longtime friend of the show long time during fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/667">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► reader I mean like back in 2002 the skypes enemy typos and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/671">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► great guy I said it was his favorite Bond movie and in fact he directed at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/676">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► on Twitter said it is in the top six is a fan of the movie but he would not he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► would not call it his favorite and I wouldn't want somebody in such a way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► it's clear the record for that last thing which has made a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/689">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► the Chris Cornell song I forget the name of it but it was the theme of it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/695">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► the theme of quantum solace that was the theme for Casino Royale and I was tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/702">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► or something let it slide I didn't catch you take that the team for Quantum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/709">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► Solace was the jack white one which is kinda hard for a while though I got old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/715">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► ones you have seen James Bond oh yeah I've been watching the old ones I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/724">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► know I started seeing all the nuances that come out and I never to know once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► and then after you and and started doing the shows I started watching them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/733">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► actually you know as you know they're so annoying to stream so it had to end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/737">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► buying a bunch of them but yeah i dont them this streaming rights on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/742">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► boundaries are the craziest thing in the world like it somebody tweeted me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/747">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► other day that a bunch of the connery wonder back on Netflix but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► all of their own I think a punchline HBO Go which is where I watched one recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/754">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► but not all of them not all of them and not the ones I wanted to watch wow ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/761">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► yeah I who knows but those negotiations alike but you just think though that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/765">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► would be like a blanket deal they all want company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► all except for never say never again which is entirely separate long story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/773">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► but all the other Bond movies are from Eon Productions beyond the grave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/780">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► abbreviation everything or nothing so it's just bizarre I must just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/785">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► that you know that in which conglomerate owns those Sony or one of those who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/791">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► won't MGM and are now being crazy it very well have more fun I think it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/799">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► of those things like its big like a piece of butter toast is always going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/809">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► well and faced down its like whatever Bond movie you're in the mood to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► it all he's not gonna be available for free on netbooks totally actually when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/817">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► just take a break right here and do the first sponsor and I will get started on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/822">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► and it's a brand new sponsor I'm very very excited about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/826">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► called hullo hu lol 000 used to say hello to the Rings movies have you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/834">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► tried a buckwheat whole hello every damn now well I never even heard of such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/845">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► thing but popular for centuries throughout Asia buckwheat pillows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/852">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► conform to your body and provide cool comfortable support hello suit every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/857">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► person sleeping style side sleeper back sleeper stomach sleeper how low can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/863">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► adjusted to conform perfectly to the shape of your head and neck providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/868">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► ideal support that's just for you I'm usually a back sleeper I just sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/873">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► sometimes I C you know how we got air flows freely through clothes buckwheat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/877">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► whole bill keeping it cool long adjust the thickness to your personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/886">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► preference by adding or removing the holes anytime it made in the USA with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/892">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► quality construction materials and improves on traditional buckwheat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► pillows by incorporating only the highest quality materials 3 shrunken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/902">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► durable twill cotton case high-quality dunlap hidden zipper and the buckwheat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/908">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► whole Phil is grown and milled in North Dakota [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/915">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► chemical organically friendly environmentally friendly I should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/919">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► organic product no chemical based phones or bird feathers hundred-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► unbleached certified organic cotton these guys sent me one of these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/930">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► actually two so we could both try these out and I opened it up and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/936">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► that they were out of their minds because it seemed as though I it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/942">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► a pillow stuffed full of coffee beans and it's it is definitely not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/947">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► normal pillow it is entirely different it's not like oh wow that's weird led to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/952">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► a full of holes buckwheat holes would you like a pillow doesn't feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/959">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► very heavy much heavier and it makes a crinkly sent that only has a sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/963">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► you're sleeping on it like a setback for coffee beans figured I'd try it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/969">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► that was like two weeks ago and I've still got it on my bed pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/975">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► every day I wake up every morning I still think it was wild but I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/980">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► it's definitely gives me a better night's sleep with a regular not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/984">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► like memory phone if i dont i dont care for the memory foam pillows may seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/991">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► like a weird way they can put your head this thing the conforming to your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/996">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► it's not it's not at all like a phone or anything like that just like sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► bag of beans I don't know nature yeah so here's the deal sounds crazy seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► a weird thing you'd buy off podcast but here's their deal you try it for 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► nights and if you're not satisfied they will give you a full refund no questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► the small under 49 bucks standard 79 king-size 129 so there are cheap but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► can save money I need additional one you can save five ten or twenty on each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► additional 18 you buy and its sixty days no risk no questions asked money back so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► if you got any curiosity and I think it sounds crazy Gruber says it works just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► go try it sign up by the thing and if you don't like it just send it back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► him for free you have to pay a damn thing so try it here we go to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► more hello hello each you lol 000000 W dot com slash talk show just / talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► in the last bit 1 percent of all of their profits are contributed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► nature conservancy so my thanks to hello pillow government trying to really crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► sounds cool yeah and we're loading free for sale on a talk about I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► send you the link was article by Eric Jackson writing at Fortune it was Ford's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► its forms and as a former forbes employee we love it when you confuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► firms and Fortune I know what I just did it the other day with there is a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► by a fortune writer and I are situated at ford's it really is as simple as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► my mind they're both business magazines and they start or are and that's it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► way just remember that fortune is the boring one it's like the index in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► mind the hashing index it only has like three letters yeah those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1134">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► anyway about this earlier in the year two and then I politely rebutted it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► his point is he he wants to see Apple use their massive cash reserves to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► big acquisitions and my take earlier in the year was more or less he was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► just do something with which seems to me ill advised like it seems to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► he's articulated in the viewpoint that Apple has to do something with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► money and you know I just disagree I think doing just doing something for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► sake of doing something is going to hit a follower be disposed of it was at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► very end of the month for Thanksgiving and a summarized I would say he's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► thinks that the what they are doing with their money with the stock buybacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► which is i think most things about seventy percent of what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► and then the dividends internal pain are a waste of money and they did they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► not really that the the stock rise that we've seen since Apple's instituted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► would have happened anyway just because Apple's financials are doing better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► the vague they're not going to be able to survive without Steve Jobs fear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► might have been depressing the stock is gone nobody really seems to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► they're in bad hands under Tim Cook's leadership anymore which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► everybody would agree with that so what he thinks they should do even if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► doesn't think they should have done that and what he thinks they should do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► how is he indeed is dead serious matters he thinks they should by Tesla which he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► thinks will cost about forty five billion Twitter which would be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► forty billion by Pinterest for fifteen billion then spend ten billion better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► batteries through R&D and spend ten billion to make iCloud work properly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► when hitting about the cell and this also happens so I also published a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► today Friday called you know whatever 10 things I learned about Apple this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► on courts and one of the copy of one of the things I touched on is was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► commentary about Apple's you know basically doing their first big by ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► this year which was Beats Audio beats music and her Beats Electronics or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► whatever it's called which was three billion dollars which is not forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► billion but it's still pretty big and you know with the context of people over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► the years saying Apple should by all these companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► the one that's been thrown about a lot actually in years past was Adobe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► Apple should buy adobe so that it owns the you know professional desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► software market and if one of the articles I found while researching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► was during fireball 14 May 2008 why Apple won't buy adobe and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► the post he wrote here if you could if you want to do a find and replace with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► with almost every company on that list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► you know you could pretty much pasted in there you know and and you also made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► you've also written about you know why Apple buying Tesla wouldn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► be the craziest thing because it kind of fits fits the model a little bit of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► they do but you know if you look at at Pinterest and Twitter and Tesla first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► all you can't buy three companies that bigger the same time and that's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► possible for logistical or regulatory standpoint like imagine if you announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► a hundred billion dollars and acquisitions in a week I my guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► that the government would say yeah very funny ok now we're gonna make you wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► for two years while we sift through all this stuff yet there's let's let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► beyond that and yeah let's put that aside for now but in particular for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► example I think that trying to acquire Twitter and Pinterest simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► very complicated getting approval much more complicated than buying one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► more than twice as complicated because it would be seen as you know anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► competitive because in some ways Pinterest is it social network and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► therefore it competes with Twitter but beyond that even if you had like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► know even if all that stuff was was totally doable then your Apple ID you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► have to integrate Pinterest and Twitter into your company and you know first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► all how and second of all why like what do you know what do you do at that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► it just seems to me like that is not what Tim Cook needs to be doing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► you know twitter is not gonna change Apple in a way that would make it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► know solve all the problems I think there are there are much much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► problems that Apple that have nothing to do with spending cash to acquire new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► companies that have some relation to you know potential future businesses for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► apple or something like that I am the Y is the bigger question than the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► because the easiest answer to how would be to acquire them and kind of let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► run independently but then you know you mean like there how to me has it why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► though it is the first question which by the way is is harder than it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► because the people who made Pinterest and Twitter by the people who made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► Pinterest what it is don't necessarily want to keep making it under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► ownership of a bigger company so this is a very common problem anyway the wise is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► ultimately more interesting because I don't see how Twitter or focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► Twitter but only owning Twitter to me doesn't help Apple do anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► Apple already does there's no that it solves nothing you know that in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► Apple's core businesses which is really selling computing hardware and now an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► array of form factors traditional PCs and laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► tablets and off course cell phones and coming soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► the watch which are all computers that's really no fun to me as well as they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► computers and the way that they succeed is by making computers that are the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► in the world as perceived by a significant number of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► therefore willing to pay a premium for them to me that Apple in a nutshell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► there's almost nothing that the company does that matters that isn't in service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► that which is why it has all this cash to spend in the first place so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► example yeah exactly and that's how I got so for example the whole thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► items isn't at first at least it like a one level of indirection has nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► do with selling computers but I think like two levels of indirection it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► because one type of computer and that's no longer really a significant part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► the company's business but one type of computer is iPods computers that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► computing devices that are meant as portable music and video players and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► sell those it really really helped I would say it was essential to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► easy to buy content for them therefore it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► iTunes exists I think you're selling I chose a little short I mean edit speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► of utility in the early two thousands like it was way easier to use than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► winning or something like that for managing a music library and and ripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► CDs and that sort of stuff and then you know arguably more importantly it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► the the home of sync sinking your devices two-year to each other to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► iPod and eventually your iPhone to Mac which you know that's a that's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► great place to be if you can I was a Michael Gartenberg I think once tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► something if you own sink you own everything yeah I don't know something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► you know and that's what I cloud is supposed to do right now so i tunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► actually price so lot of Max I would say yeah I don't mean to sell it short but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► it's all in service of selling into selling Mac selling iPod selling phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► you know definitely it that they had the infrastructure in place both the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► infrastructure of having the store and cloud servers that could send content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► activation member you have to activate your phone through iTunes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► desktop software which was on hundreds of millions of Macs and Windows PCs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► let them ship the iPhone sooner than they would have been able to otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► if they didn't have it in place because for years you know three or four more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► years before I cloud really became an independent thing you've really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► they needed it to have the you know just for things like software update they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► didn't have the infrastructure in place to do over the air software updates to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► the iPhone and so if they wanted to do what they definitely wanted to do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► was controlled the software updates to the phone as opposed to the carrier they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► needed items work so I'm not trying to sound short I'm just say no it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► service of that fundamental business of selling the best computing devices yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► and now that of course the acquisition estate would say well now Apple should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► buy Spotify because that's the future iTunes so why does an apple just spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► the cash it has by Spotify that's it not that I would not disagree with I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► think they have to buy Spotify I don't think they have to buy rather than build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► their own streaming music solution but if if the news came out you know after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► we you and I get off this show and the news comes out late on Friday that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► isn't you know made an offer to buy Spotify I wouldn't be surprised at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► well I was just making fun of it so maybe I don't think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► now it was aight well I might be surprised I wouldn't be shocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► wouldn't seem out of character in the same way that beats pete was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► surprised but it you know it doesn't seem totally out of character right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► Spotify like it has it seems to have survived long enough to actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► on its own both in terms of usage and kind of a community and the product it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► built so yeah that wouldn't you know it I don't know if I guess the questions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► okay does that then there's always dork questions like does that become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► iTunes App I don't know the answer to that and I don't know that even matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► but yeah I think that like something like that which you know the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► for all these deals would be like if even if Apple shut all the Android users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► off of these products in the planet and I made them I Apple only does that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► the Apple product that much better that people would buy that instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► no outcry if they bought Twitter and made it Apple only it would you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► outcry would be phenomenal I mean it would lose most of its users I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► guess the majority some majority of Twitter users are you know using devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► or at least one device that's not an Apple product just wouldn't even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► know I don't know why would you buy a car window or the web even just the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► it just you know and then what would be the point it's just it almost seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► to me buying Twitter would just be that it would be a sign that Apple sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► itself now as I could you know like like Berkshire Hathaway yeah by companies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► their like a medic company on top of them right and I'm not liking an expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► in in kind of financial tricks in that kind of stuff but someone explain to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► by back Saturday as you know if you have this money and you think that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► best investment you can make it in yourself if you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► Apple shares are gonna go up then that's probably the best investment you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► make it just you know by our own shares instead of buying shares in something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► else yet I've read that too that's that's very close to Warren Buffett's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► Berkshire Hathaway Warren Buffett's advice and take on buybacks is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► you know it's like most of his docking by then again I'm no expert but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► that if you if you think you said if you think that your stock is underpriced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► then it's you know it's a good buy at a good to good use of your money that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► actually does help your shareholders and inflate the value of the company and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► better than the leadership of Apple 22 have accent as to whether they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► that their stock is underpriced right right I mean this is again an area where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► I'm not an expert but you know finance reporters that i've talked to have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► that Tim Cook has actually done a really good job at converting apple from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► a fast growth growth growth growth company to more of a blue-chip where yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► have a dividend and buy back its shares and you know does things with its cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► that a growth company probably wouldn't do but that into you know big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► institutional investors really respect the way that Tim Cook is done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► yeah and ATS I do I i i as an outside observer who who follows up on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► leads from the product and design side not the business side you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► completely agree with that and it does feel like like the stock has settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► because the market as a whole has accepted that transition that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► not looking for I don't see people trying to to figure out ways to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► watch and iPhone sized business in any near-term future you know it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► whereas like two years ago I feel like if they denounced watch the watch then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► expectations would have been 22 while because people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► business writers people looking at it from a financial perspective we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► asking how can Apple keep growing at this crazy rate that they've grown the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► last seven years especially having seen the first couple years of the iPad come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► out right out the gate super strong and look like maybe that was it right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► look like oh wow this is gonna be as big as the iPhone right away and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► know ok here comes to watch now it's got to be that big too and I'm guilty as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► charged on a front I i've I'm on the record as speculated I didn't pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► year but I i'm was on the record as saying that I thought iPad would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► bigger business than iPhone soon meaning you know by now and clearly that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► wrong it's not it's settled in far lower its actually growth in stopped that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► disagree with this dog forever but you know for about a year and maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► longer right can you count the court four of the last six quarters it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► actually shrunk year over year so this year it will almost certainly be smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► than it was last year not even just strong growth but actually where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► trailer hitch whereas iPhone which is holders is still continues to grow right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► never had a stronger launched in the head with the this year's models and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► course the iPod has been shrinking for several years and you know until very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► recently was still a line on laughable business so you know it's it's perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► reasonable for things to eventually declined but I don't think anyone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► have expected that the iPad iPad iPad would be in its decline already and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► know it's probably not permanent I don't think that tablets are you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► we're a fad now I don't think so I think what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► I've been thinking about this and i know this is a little bit of an aside on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► this game let spendable money but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► no one gonna spend his money in a minute so yeah yeah if we you know we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► have a long digression it wouldn't really be I might my gut feeling on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► iPad sales starring is that in the early years where it was growing in and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► is what made me think it's gonna be bigger than iPhone is in the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► years of iPad it's like iPad year one was bigger than iPhones your one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► iPad year to is bigger than iPhones your to it never was bigger than iPhone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► it was bigger than the iPhone in 27 28 29 you know in years 12 30 and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► fell behind the curve and I think it's because the two markets are entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► different the phone market is literally every person on the planet who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► afford a phone that's where we're headed is that however many billion people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► there on the planet if they are in a you know country you know and you have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► know hundred bucks and you can afford some monthly service charge you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► have a cell phone if you don't already and it's so it's an enormous market it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► almost capped by the number of people on the plane and I think the market for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► tablets is really a submarket of the PC market I think what it is is is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► it's it's really just part I think the iPad is best seen as part of the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► market and what what happened in the early years is that the market was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► vastly underserved by PCs portable PCs that are simpler more portable and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► way better battery life like the things that made the iPad the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► that it just it just sucked all the air out of the growth in laptop sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► including the MacBooks for a while that the iPad style of laptop portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► computing is just way better for so many use cases than than laptops are and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► it had go-go growth while it fulfilled that unmet need and then it just reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► the point where you know everybody who didn't really wanted one got one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► they still work you know and that there's no then the second factor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► that iPads continued to 34 year old iPad continue to work just great from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► people's needs and so they don't replace them every two years like they do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► that smile but my digression and iPad our growth decline yeah I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► right you know I'm not sure you know this is this is like an example where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► it's tempting to use your own personal example but I don't know how well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► know so I still using an iPad one every day to watch video on my house but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► about to have to replace it because time warner cable is finally ending support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► for the their app iOS 5 or whatever it runs so maybe maybe Apple ask them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► that so that we would buy a new iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► my dad has an iPad 1 tell and technology but he swears he does not want a newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► one had just find it in perfect shape but now candy crush doesn't run yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► is like crashes at a certain point and I'm sure to be you know I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► probably just the type of bug that slips in because they don't test on the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► and now they're gonna get complained about it in the next update but you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► have to wait for them to update it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► iPad 1 it the iPad one is sort of an exception to cause there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► things that have dropped support for iPad 1 right but iPad 2 is effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► still on the market it's because it's like the guts of that cheap other many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► non-threatening many as effectively and iPad 2 and half the cash registers at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► coffee shops of America so yeah like if anything the opposite problem with iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► 2 developers are gonna be saddled with supporting that level of you know CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► gonna be years and I you know I think the fact that there's a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► really complain about the fact that they're still selling that because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► you know it's holding back that level of baselines port you know where you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► only have to support X number of years of iPhones going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► iPad is sort of stretching that a lot further because they're keeping that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► iPad 2 level of of device around but on the other hand I think it's a sign that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► in the real world millions of people that's good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► totally in you know I think that maybe I just got a little ahead of itself like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► people were ever on bada tablet and then some people but two or three because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► they were you know getting better or coming in at smaller sizes and that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► of stuff and now you know combine that with the probably longer much longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► replacement cycle than a cell phone and a smaller market now we're seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► results of that and you know maybe in a year to as people grow tired or or as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► their current iPads become less useful to replace them I think a lot of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► on Apple to and you know I don't want to repeat a million people who've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► about this but is it really on Apple now to to further define what the iPad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► and I think that they're starting to do that yeah I expected to grow sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► like the way the Mac as you know like slowly but surely if they can keep if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► they can keep it ahead of you know the market which is central I mean there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► lot of times when I talk and make the assumption that Apple's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► continue thriving and and sometimes critics of you know my writing or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► you know readers who with critic crips thinking critically will will point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► in and assume that it's some kind of bias there that I think Apple is magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► and that they you know magically just no matter what they do they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► succeed it's all based on the fundamental assumption that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► keep doing what they've been doing for close to twenty years which is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► superior products whether everybody agrees that their superior not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► some number of people have seen their devices is superior in significant ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► and that's assuming they can keep doing that I think they can keep trying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► know there's there is an assumption there but I think it's gonna grow like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► the Mac where the Mac has done great US few years and it's growing in an overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► shrinking market but it's very slow growth compared to the iPhone yes I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► not mean an end this print this and I'm gonna say ok now you're Tim Cook with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► hundred billion dollars how do you spend it to keep making those products grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► and I don't it's not buying Twitter and Pinterest I think it's you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► wrote this in my piece today like what what would be ideal that they could if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► they had a year where they could just focus on making iOS and Mac OS and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► their software better that's not feasible but if they could increase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► their engineering organization so that there were enough people to a building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► new stuff they want to build and be keep refining the old stuff that that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► be a good use of money obviously it's hard to hire engineers and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► having open up new offices and other places to do that kind of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► that's right like to see Apple spend their money right and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► whole mythical man month factor where you can't even if you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► more good engineers you can't solve individual projects problems just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► throwing more engineers at them true more engineers would definitely help I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► don't think there's a single company in technology today that's not doesn't real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► talent starved I really don't I mean I think it's I think it's universal Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► Apple Microsoft Twitter any of those companies my Facebook and healers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► companies know everything I've seen is that the the recruiting market is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► important as tenacious or more tenacious than it's ever been but it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► throwing more people at the same projects it having more people to spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► and you know the size of a team is not going to grow but it's being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► have more teams yet right so maybe Apple should buy one of those coding schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► they go now I just you know and I've been watching you know when using Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► products for twenty-five years now more and you know nothing was ever perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► but it does certainly feel now like there are some holes in their products I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► use every day where you know nothing is really really bad but it's it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► better to be its rights to Littleton yeah I think and that they've you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► and maybe that's a good thing maybe in the grand scheme of things if you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► achieve perfection and you you know and let's just assume you know it's human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► nature that nobody's perfect it's a little better to err on the side going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► too fast and err on the side of going too slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► totally right that you want to be on that too fast side and not too slow side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► and you know I think what we've seen in the last year is that Apple's being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► little too fast as their little too far away from that optimal you know things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► like all the continuity features and stuff like that most of them were crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► but there are none of them feel quite to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► like perfect one thing that did has definitely changed my daily computing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► especially between phone and Mac in you know in the house is downstairs and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► more coffee and I'll take my phone out and see something and now I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► LinkedIn enduring fireball and I used to do something like send it to pin board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► and come up to my Mac and load pinboard and do that now I use airdrop I airdrop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► to myself everyday multiple times and usually it's perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► HEDIS a share their my other device shows up on air drop by tap it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► second or two later it's there and then i dont have like an extra bookmark on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► pinboard they really didn't want there permanently to do something with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► know there's no you know I don't you call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► digital detritus leftover it's great but then there sometimes we're on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► there next to my Mac with my phone and I go to air drop in my Mac just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► show up I have in turn Bluetooth off or anything like that just doesn't show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► in this is my experience as well and it's it's frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► frustrating because I don't know why it's not working you know and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► seems like I'm not in my own contacts file or something like that so I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► change the airdrop settings to share with everyone and not just contacts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► it should know I'm me because you know I'm the same I don't know how it knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► I'm me or not some people right that it really doesn't work well for them at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► for me I would say works at least 95% of the time I'm like in the twenty five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► percent range maybe I just need to let loose with a permissions and let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► share with everyone but even trust trying to sync with my own Mac or with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► you know my wife's iPhone where we're definitely in each other's contact vials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► it still never wants to to find them when we want to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► another example i mean it's not a new 2014 thing it's actually a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► older but don't get me started on my experience with iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► match which it's just I don't know I so white had it turned onto and we got our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► new iPhones couple months ago and and it's like she was just passed she came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► back from the gym the one day and she at one point she had the new phone and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► had all of her music and it was on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► territory thing with a new phone she would have checked before she went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► the gym the first time to listen to music she had it she listened to music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► and then like the next day she got to the gym and her phone had no songs 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► just no songs are just gone that's yeah well I just did something immensely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► stupid which was nice I put a new hard drive in my iMac and try to start from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► scratch but my itunes of course through iTunes Match already had all this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► metadata from my songs in its own set of trying to download them all from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► servers I drop the music folder on top of the iTunes icon in the dock to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► know real you know theoretically we associate all those song files with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► with the app and then it duplicated everything in the listings and shit now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► I have two copies of every song and have to figure out how to go through and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► unduplicated and I tweeted something to that extent and people like me you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► that and then you know it's so funny I came back the next day and it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► totally fixed itself was duplicated so I have no idea how that worked but write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► some of these features are supposed to be there like like airdrop I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► know quite how I know it's some combination of Bluetooth WiFi you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► that there's like invisible wi-fi networks that don't show up as WiFi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► networks but its encapsulating a lot of complexity to make all the handshaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► and then presented itself in a very simple interface but it's gotta be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► bulletproof gotta be that if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► devices are clearly within range of each other and they're both on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► it should be you know it should be every bit as consistent as when you open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► finder and you go to your home folder that your home folder has all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► stuff in it right every time you go to the finder and you go to your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► folder you know the connection between OS 10 and the files on your hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► is 200% consistent you know airdrops gotta get that could write like magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► and that's you know and that's right rather see Apple interests in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► kind of perfecting that I'm sure it's tricky you know bluetooth for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► seemed like it was just a joke of a technology and it seems to have gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► definitely gotten better battery life with low energy is aptly named it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► know I used to never keep Bluetooth I turned it off I the only thing I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► could have used it for what we have speakers that Bluetooth but I didn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► them and Mike are you can connect it to the cars cost but it was such a hassle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► to remember to turn Bluetooth off before I got the car that I never did and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► left it on which I always would if I did remember to turn it on it would forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► to turn it off and i got out of the car and I feel like geez I didn't use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► phone for a while why the battery life travelers cos I do too but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► you know now it just seems so you can leave bluetooth on your phone and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► you know it's good I would say the biggest thing that Apple could do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► the cash that they have is focusing on ways that give them competitive edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► that can't be matched by anyone else or bias few other companies as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► because I think that's the key to their success for you know for twenty years is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► that they've had design jobs that couldn't be matched and arguably still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► aren't right and but the focus on more and more of those things I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► the whole safire tobacco in Arizona was an attempted that yes and they buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► I think that you know the idea was that they were going to work out a deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► a company that I remember but yeah well you know they worked out a deal where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► they were going to you know supply the capital to create an unheard-of number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► of sapphire furnaces and they would have the right to buy is you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► all of the South fire that the facility produced which if it worked or if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► can somehow salvage this and it does eventually work they'll have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► that nobody else will have nobody else you know samp Samsung won't be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► make a phone you know in in in quantity with the Sapphire display because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► won't be anywhere in the world by them i think is a perfect example of the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► of thing that Apple should be doing with its money yet and it is something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► can do now that it couldn't do in the old days before they had this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► massive sum of cash you know in 2002 2003 Appleton have the ability to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► ten or twenty billion dollars on x because they don't have ten or twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► billion dollars sitting in a bank right now and instead they they famously like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► negotiated just crazy great terms on deals with suppliers and the flash or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► whatever right there in a position to bankroll the creation of an entire new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► basically industry I mean this by the way the company is called GTE advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► technologies and the staff that I found crazy is that Apple already is using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► one-fourth of the entire world supply of sapphire just for the iPhone camera lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► and fingerprint reader and I was a wall street journal so they've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► promised that the top two tiers of Apple watcher gonna doubtfire covered displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► right so that's a crazy amount of of the market that they already control for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► these two tiny components granted on hundreds of millions of products but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► can imagine now take those hundreds of millions of iPhones and multiply the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► twenty or something like that and you were literally are creating an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► new market and that's what you can do it when you have a hundred billion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► secondary digression is under sapphire and one of the things I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► about lately is one of the things that come out of the court filings with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► bankruptcy of GTP advanced technology is that we now know what we suspected all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► along but we know for sure now that at some point Apple had hoped to use a fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► in this year's new iPhones for the displays not just for the camera back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► there if everything had gone perfectly or at least according to plan or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► something some measure like that Apple iPhone 6 in six-plus would have fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► this place and they don't which makes me wonder how much whether they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► now the fact that GTE advanced failed whether they're in trouble now with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► Sapphire displays for watches and not that they would have to change it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3293">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► have already promised that I would be shocked if they switched to class for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► the addition in the stainless but I'm wondering if we might not see one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► those apple launches where midnight everybody's madly clicking and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► by like 1215 easterner to go on sale Pacific I don't know but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► fifteen minutes after the pre-orders go online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► people are already seeing quotes of four to six weeks and the next day you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► already seeing you know six seven weeks you know estimated delivery necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► because it's so many people buying them but because it's the the Sapphire if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► they were banking on gt2 advanced technology the Sapphire might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► significant constraint just in in supply and maybe even in price so although I at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► this point in price the money and make the watches I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► yeah but I'm not to cook so yeah exactly I think that this is the sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► is the best in the world that so far but the other thing I thought that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► probably wrong about that that the Sapphire will be significant gating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► issue on production is that they're gonna need a lot less a fire for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► watch then they would have the phones because the phones are you know where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► don't know but I'm not make up a number and say fifty million yeah and figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► maybe thirty to forty million of those are iPhone 6 is something could be has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► to say at least 30 million iPhones sixes which are bigger and in the case of 6 +1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► whole lot bigger than the watch whereas the watch you know nobody knows how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► gonna sell but especially in the more expensive stainless in addition levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► are not thirty million in its border and it's not a five inch display and are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► going to be told how many sold no true yeah so that's that's a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► and other one which they did do is test flight I mean I think that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► that's the sort of thing that day that they actually probably know they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► have done sooner and probably were just being snobby about it you know why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► are all these developers using testify when they should be using our built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► drag-and-drop email attachments app testing system so you know any time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► see a bunch of of app developers jumping onto a third party to like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► just pick it up I mean yeah you know they've certainly try to build a few of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► them like Cloud kit which I haven't used is very similar to parse which I do use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► which Facebook owns you know that's the kind of thing that you know they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► just keep an eye out for that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► and none of those are billion dollar deals are all much smaller I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► deal and I can't help but wonder if there's another purely hypothetical but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► we know that they're building like the Mac Pros in the USSR assembling them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► if they have grand plans to shift more and more of their assembly to the united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► states if they do I my guess would be that it would be more along the lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► robotic izing the assembly line is if you ever look like this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► surprise it was surprising to me like we first started getting behind the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► looks at Foxconn health under assembled and I Petters embolden how much of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► done by hand by just people at a bench you know putting you know putting these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► pieces together I think if they brought that to the United States to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► cost-effective it would probably not be like a bonanza of manufacturing jobs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► would probably be about figure out a way to monetize sampling and then they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► bring it internally and they have these robotic size assembly lines that no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► else in the world would have right like Foxconn gains the ability to do acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► than anybody who usess Foxconn gets the ability to do X Foxconn itself to I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► say exactly which is a little surprised they have not been more competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► already right and for example just look at the Nokia tablet that looks like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► had many look alike and it's every you know drilled aluminum all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► it's really like a relabeled Foxconn product at a Foxconn tablet that Nokia's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► putting their name on where do you think Foxconn learning tablet looks like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► well he learned it from Apple you know I don't think it sent you know incident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► know a lot of components and until recently made all the CPUs for iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► you know got better at making cell phones after the you know worked with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► plan that I wouldn't be surprised to see that that would be an interesting way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► for Apple to spend money and I think gtgt advanced deal was a sign of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► it's not just about materials but maybe assembly in general but maybe for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► reason there are like why did why did they do the whole thing would be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► advance instead of apple just making making in owning their own safire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► fairness I don't know for some reason they seemed resistant to they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► decrease the risk you know and then looked at the the court filings on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► terms like boy did they ever decrease the risk like it's crazy how basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► Apple has complete control over everything and you know GTE basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► can't do anything and she teases a court filing was kind of pathetic as they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► they've made this is offer that was horribly unbalanced and everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► really mean you know they even there is even a phrase with a you know quoted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► guy that in a phone call that guy from Apple told them to put your big boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► pants yeah it was dismissive but my take on it is it wasn't like GTA events had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► to say yes to this they agreed to all rights it's sort of like unsaid in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► filings is well of course we said yes because if it worked out look at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► much money we would have made totally right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► yeah meanwhile there's a fifty million dollar NDA penalty yeah that was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► interesting thing that came out of it and it was got worse like for subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► ones that's grabbed one day I noticed and if you look at the list of suppliers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► and stuff that we know about Apple watch it's a it's a different list then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► makes five iPhone and iPad just like the component makers it's coming from a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► of different companies and can't help but think that because Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► dissatisfied with their manufacturing partners for those things because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► rampant leaks and could be yeah in a way that you know competing products into BB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► banking on their innovations so I think that the one thing they could do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► their resources now try to make those try to make those things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► something that I think you know an interesting example of that already I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► would say are the a series systems on a chip which it's like they've turned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► whole we use different CPUs then the standard components that everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► does things on its head in the old days when Apple was on the Motorola 68000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► chips and later power PC chips and the Wintel industry was on x86 Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► selling lesser quantities and they could never heard the quantities were never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► enough to keep up right there is no way for Motorola and IBM partners are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► power PC chips to really sustain the advances that were necessary to keep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3775">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► with Intel because the numbers just weren't there and Apple couldn't have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► whereas now by making you know these wildly popular massively selling devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► they're using these chips they're they're getting the economy of scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► advantages with their a five Series 678 and by all accounts you know I get in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► Tekken those places faster and far more power-efficient chips then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► snapdragons that everybody else in the you know they're not sharing nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► gets to make the phone with these amazing systems-on-chip how can they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► yeah and and so there's a hardware element to that then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► software element and I think a lot of people in a services element to i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► what can you know I keep going back to iCloud and I'm trying to think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► bigger picture is is iCloud a success so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► are and there's you know there's a lot of griping about little things here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► there I think it is sort of a success I mean you know it backs up my phone every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► night and I don't even think about it it seems like they they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► more with it but that's the kind of thing where you know that could easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► be a huge advantage over over everyone else like you know just back people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► stuff you know make sharing super easy that's going to be hard to be it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► be it should get better they should key I think it is I think it quietly getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► a lot better I think that there at the problems around the edges but it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► going to be a sustaining advantage as a lock-in advantage were once you're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► in your backups are already there it's a lot easier to just buy an iPhone and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► backup restore to the new iPhone than it is to switch to Android but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► really that big of a competitive advantage because Google stuff is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► good at those things that your Gmail and Google Calendar and Google Hangouts a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3894">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► really good but I don't know if Google Drive is really catching on like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► anyway I think that there is a better chance I think that cloud stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► general the best they can hope for is to be as good as the state of the art right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► now I think a lot of that actually a lot of people saying that they should by all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► these companies are saying oh they'll learn how to be better at the cloud if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► they own Twitter or Pinterest or something like that and I mean there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3926">TS</a>]
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01:06:26 ◼ ► rather than have Apple by them in and control yet well next time I talk to em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/3986">TS</a>]
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01:09:39 ◼ ► for a while and that's the idea of institutional taste and I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► might be a grouper term I'm not sure but I've been thinking about it and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► as i've been kind of taking a look at companies this year and writing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► the McCourts and I'm curious like you know about a bunch of things but I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4193">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► first haha how do you define institutional taste I would say cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► value like a shared cultural value that you see things the same way and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► value things the same way one of the points are a recurring theme in my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► in recent years is the idea that it's not just what your priorities are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► top three priorities but it matters what order those top three priorities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► matters which one you can say that you value you know good just pic material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► you use the shape and the weight without a value value wait they value battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► life they value elegance they value how it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► but it's clear that a ball institutionally values then this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► wait more than a value battery life because otherwise they you know they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► here's here's my old iPhone four right here by my desk which is you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► think when it came out was billed as being the world's thinnest from and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► it wasn't it was pretty darn close her tits couple years ago so you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► they valued battery more than thinness I think that today's iPhone sixes would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► maybe not as thick as the iPhone 4 but they'd be thicker than they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► and they would have used that techniques to put more battery in there it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► matters what you know which order those priorities are not that they don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► about battery life but they obviously value than this weight above that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► think institutional taste that's just a sign of it and it it propagates that its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► people who share those values and that tastes that are drawn to work at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► company and the Company recruit people who share those guys and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► it sustains itself I think it tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► and obviously like this is something that Apple excels at you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► whether we can really define it or not a really explain everything that applies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► to this is kind of a pro Apple argument to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► are there other companies you see that that you think have good institutional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► taste I know we can name a bunch they have bad you know historically have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► bad taste are there others that do you think have good taste I think Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► clearly does and I think that's why they have as rabid fans as Apple does but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► that they tend to be different people you know most people who truly say they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► love Google either about apple or that mixed feelings about Apple probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► mixed feelings is more common with a probably do use the MacBook a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► them used MacBooks but that they feel more affinity for Google but Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► good taste is in things like simplicity and minimalism I mean I think the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► that if you just go to google.com and what you see on that page here in 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► is so close to what you saw back in you know 2002 whenever you know when Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► is a beta at Stanford where it's just a box and two buttons and you know i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► minimal crap they've added there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► and and for all you know we complain about Google advertising it today the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► day still resisted the urge to really put advertising on that home page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► they still only showing results match what they charge for just one add you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► you know just one thing up in the corner on that page imagine what they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► charge and they don't and it's you know I think it's a sign of Google's taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► you think so I'll just us out there I think that historically a company with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► with bad taste has been Microsoft which shows in everything from their kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► visual design to you know the awkwardness of their stage presentations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► to product decisions now that concept but I've actually been surprisingly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► guess surprised at how even little things like their file format like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► you read how when somebody's backward engineered an old version of war in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► other word doc docx file its so it's just horrible it's nobody would design a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► file format like that and had taste yeah I don't know if it was satire but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► the Microsoft Bob logos pretty much like emblematic of Microsoft seems like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► getting a little better I don't know maybe you know they're making some smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► decisions now can taste be taught or changed or is it in any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► timeframe that would matter or is that the kind of thing that's kind of too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► deeply ingrained in a company that to change I think you have to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► some sort of stressful transition to change and I think that's what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► seeing with Microsoft think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► and it's even bubbled up to the point where you know not the bomb I don't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► he was pretty close it's about as close as you can get to forcing out a CEO of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► wildly profitable major corporation right i mean an end without any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► impropriety or anything like that nobody accused unabomber of any kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► know just going propriety or crimes or anything of the sort it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4555">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► honestly I think it really eventually his lack of taste caught up with him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► the market had moved on right and so I think microsoft is going through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► sort of transition and we definitely see it I think I mean its windows you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► the new version of Windows on the surface is you know it's absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► positively not copy of iOS and it's good I I don't think I would prefer that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► really don't know it's been a long time in a couple years since I tried living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► with Windows Phone but I don't think it's to my liking but it certainly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► certain it wherever it ranks in the world of design right now it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► shows a taste that Microsoft never had any old yeah and and and at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► time we've gone from a company that used to say you know why would anyone buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► their kids and iPod to hey we've got office for iPad and why would anyone buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► their kids an iPod or whatever right to now there's office for iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► and integrating Dropbox into PowerPoint and you know this kind of stuff and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► seems really maybe it's maybe it's too short a time frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► juice I'm a little excited about what I see there I would go so far as to tie a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► tie it together with the first half of the show and say that it's actually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► even so much about taste but that Microsoft is institutionally backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► away from the view that they can do it all themselves and that they should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► it all themselves like the Microsoft at its peak of industry dominance did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► everything other than the hardware and they know and they really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► defined PC hardware you know in a way that without making any peace without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► making any PCs themselves they had enormous influence on it but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► literally did everything they wrote their own operating system they broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► all of the major apps for that our operating system they had their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► developer tools they had their own debentures sharp their own developer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► Visual Basic their own languages they went their own way and a route that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► just unprecedented you know then that nobody else has ever really tried to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► again and in this right time with the first half of the show is to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► warning sign for Apple biggest canary in the coal mine as we you know how it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► Apple they're going to be looking for this eve apples may be starting to lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► their edge are signs of hubris right I think that's the word that Microsoft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► that that that the today's Microsoft doesn't have that anymore and all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► you know where their advertising the iOS ABS there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► integrating with Dropbox I just like any other day this week we're now that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► can do they have a thing where they're running on Google's cloud service oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► yeah right you can run exchange and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► you know run Windows servers and Google's cloud all of those things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► signs that they now they're they're they're off of that you know Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► only all the way down the stack and I guess we should also disclosed they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► also sponsored your podcast and you're a yeah yeah yeah you know totally exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► two good point now absolutely yeah and the fact that azor and all the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► of their all their cloud-based services are absolutely positively not designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► as cloud services for Microsoft client devices they are designed as cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► what's the word agnostic yeah you know they're just they're just good cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► services yes I'm very interested to see what what some of the most unabomber e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► Microsoft stuff what happens to that like those those stores that were kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► of crappy rip-offs of Apple stores you know what happens to those now that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► of stuff but we'll see it's you know it's only been two less than a year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► company has been bad institutional taste is Amazon oh yeah oh yeah totally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► think that's what that's exactly what inspired me to ask you about this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► thinking about that that that found my phone oh yeah did you use one now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► haven't yet I haven't either but Boyd the reviews were bad and now that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► been on the market for a while and I've seen a little bit more like random a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► random people who just pick one up on a lark it's it's even worse like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► things I've seen from people who aren't like gadget reviewers from the merger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► would ever say people who view lot of phones where the fire phone was in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► opinion very poorly reviewed general but the just real people who don't do it who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► just bought it to see what it's like really just scorched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► its patent every way that's funny because I like Amazon as a service like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► I try spend more money on Amazon than any other place besides my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► whoever owns my apartment building but just they've never had a good looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► website all their hardware stuff just screams out you know either we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► doing this to do it or we don't really care that much about how good it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► use you know the scathing reviews of the Kindle the newest Kindle saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► look this is supposed to be at the top end e-reader in the world why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► treat it like that they've never had good page turning on a Kindle ever yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► it's the most astounding thing in all of consumer electronics that and it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► standing at the first one or the second one or maybe even the third one didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► have great page-turning but it's a standing me that it really has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► gotten you know just edited we better year after year and at this point after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► you know I seven or eight years on the market that they don't have paid turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► down is crazy or even like justifying the text you know forcing it to be fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► you know the full width of the screen and are not letting you left justify it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► I just a few weeks ago it solved computational problem it's not easy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► it's solved and they're even open source solutions to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► attack the TV lowercase II capital acts typesetting system that Donald Knuth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► created you know back in the seventies there's an open a link to an academic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► paper that one of his students wrote in like nineteen eighty that just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► and it's not solve problems to do proper justification without unseemly gaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► between words and with intelligent use of hibernation it's it's a small problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► yeah they don't you know they're fine selection is atrocious and indeed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► not like it's not like having good finds good line you know layout isn't a core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► part of what the device it's the whole point of the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► it would be like if the iPod's didn't really have good music playback yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► although maybe some argue that they didn't but still you know if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► you're trying to make the best reading device in the world which I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► they're not you know they would they would certainly act more like it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► maybe they're doing the best they can which is the institutional taste comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► in Asia said they don't the difference is that most people view a book as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► string meaning you know you mean like in programming terms that it's right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► string of texts and that if you review somebody's novel it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► matter what no but I've never seen before and it just indicate when I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► never seen a book review that includes a review of the layout of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► whereas if I reviewable guide I would I'd be tempted to do like to me I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► certainly is clearly is not the main reason and I guess in general I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► rather read an interesting well-written novel that poorly typed said then read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► terrible novel that is beautifully types of course that's the different but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► even me as somebody obsessed with typography would agree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► whereas with music nobody ever says I don't care for music sounds better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► know the technical and fundamental to listening to music but as the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► making the device it should be used that should be the obsession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► you know the people making candles lead at the top level of the design team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► should be people who are obsessed with good typography its criminal but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► it's a sign of Amazon institutional taste their priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► I think their nails it would take a moment here and thank our good friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► at Harry's your regular listener the show you know what harry's makes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5122">TS</a>]
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01:25:32 ◼ ► their own blades they built their own razor blade factory or they bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► razor blade factory in Germany they make their own blades they've got great high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► quality handles shaving creams gels aftershave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► you name it if it is a shame product they make it and it's great quality at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► amazing prices compared to the mass market stuff you buy in drugstores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► really great stuff well look at the holidays and if you're listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► show on or before December 17th they have a fantastic holiday offer for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► use this code talk show holiday all one word talk show holiday that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► regular code that someone just for this holiday offer what that code get use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► get you five bucks off their winter winston that winter Winston said comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► with a chrome handle three of their high quality blades and either they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► your choice it's already wrapped and you know how call their packaging is it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► fantastic gift you might never think to give gaming products as a gift you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► regular Jalandhar crap like that carries though I think this would make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5207">TS</a>]
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01:26:59 ◼ ► order the winner in Winterton save five bucks for anybody on your shopping list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5219">TS</a>]
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01:27:13 ◼ ► so let's let's take my Instagram which just announced three hundred million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► active users which is almost entirely likely more than Twitter has at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► twitter has not yet released their December quarter numbers and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► different as they do the quarterly average but if you look at the graphs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► though it's pretty clear that Instagram is growing faster and it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► amazing I think it's certainly the number-two and number-three out that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► check after I wake up and it's it's kind of cool that you know even after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► Facebook bought them although that kind of maybe gives them an edge to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► Facebook hasn't really integrated as much as it could have been growing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► quickly I still feels like very much of its own thing I think it totally does I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► would say is somebody who doesn't use Facebook and therefore it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► specific reasons it just doesn't appeal to me when they bought Instagram I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► big fan of Instagram I was very worried and they said oh but we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► mess with it we're not going to Facebook I sit where did you let Kevin Systrom in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► his team you know we bought them cause we love what they're doing and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► gonna have them keep doing what they're doing and say I've heard that before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► right you hear that every time there's a popular thing it required you hear it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► not going to get we're not gonna mess it up and most of the time he gets messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► up eventually and its I would save from the outside as an Instagram user it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► completely true if you did if I didn't follow tech news I would have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► that Instagram was bought by my facebook so I made a kind of jerky to eat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► other day but one of the things that surprised me the most is you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► could say like oo they just kind of napping over there they've changed it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► little that it almost could seem like its negligence now that I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► they should throw a bunch of features at it but there's a lot of little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► that I think are still missing from Instagram that they were really actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► make it better for example you know something as simple as be able to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► multiple users in the apt so that you know i i kno woman who runs for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► Instagram accounts for three restaurants and her personal one in every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► want to switch accounts you literally have to sign out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► and then sign in with your username and password conceptually Instagram is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► similar to Twitter its it in in comparing Twitter to Facebook is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► difficult because it's just different purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► very different design but fundamentally Instagram Twitter for pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► yep and combined with that instead of having replies you have comments on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5391">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► Lee different ordered the pictures are still Twitter order newest at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► oldest at the bottom the only real conceptual difference in the mean time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► line is that comments go under the picture their commenting on as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► to Twitter where the replies are all in a chronological stream as well yeah very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► very similar and so therefore I completely agree with you it makes every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► bit of sense that you can have multiple accounts and Instagram that it does in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► Twitter right and it's something like that where another one is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► hyperlinks like you you can you can even Lake you know a comment which you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► put a link in a comment or or anywhere really which you know on one hand cuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► down spam unite you don't have as much people spamming links on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► you see people like you know both humans and companies saying here's something we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► did to access it go to our bio and click the link in our body yeah that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► cool that's a very it's a clever half but still it's like you know these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► places where competitor could eventually catch catch hold another one a shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► like they're in now there in in the USSR company called spring and in Japan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► there's a company called origami that you know are basically Instagram with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► BUY button attached to it and even just a hyperlink from Instagram would do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► much to make services like that unnecessary and I wonder if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► Instagram just keeping things really simple because that's what work since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► really hard to argue with that you know you know they've done so well or if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► know a little few little features like that could really have gone a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► yeah and if the if the hyperlinks work the way they do in almost all Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► clients where instead of bouncing you out to a third party browser it opens a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► web you right there in the apt you're not even losing the engagement because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► when they close the web you they're probably gonna be right back where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► were and Instagram so I don't think it's about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► engagement Chapman right right can only guess that it's a spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► but even then I feel like thats making us the users suffer for a problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► they're supposed to solve yeah right i mean imagine if Twitter said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► getting rid of all links because I mean just know you can't do that sorry yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► yeah I would think that the way that they would do it would be to follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► Twitter's lead and do their own Tico think that's that's fundamental to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► Twitter's in tight I know that they do other things too in that you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► track all sorts of analytics through all the links that go through Twitter now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► that they're all redirected through TDOT Co but part of it too is it let some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► centralized spam and malware and write any kind of anything I I C span meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► anything that would that is like that and identify the user as a No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► yep turning out the light and you know I haven't been kicked out you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► funny they're supposed to be another meeting in here right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► email the person asked if I can use the room so they might show up angrily any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► minute now so decided he could sign off on a moment's notice I heard a loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► clicking missing the garbage can with my seltzer sorry about that so another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► feature is the equivalent of the reblogged the re- Graham and I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► totally see why they don't why they don't have that feature because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► that it's all your photos and it's it's more authentic and it's not a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► junk but other hand people are hacking net and there are apps that will let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► you know do this re- Graham even a video with an overlay and that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► have you seen those now I haven't ok well I see if I know it's not even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► five percent of the pictures in my feet and I'm sure if they're worried cramming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► be more than that but it's still interesting that that's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► thing we're pretty much every other stream based social network has added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► that feature you know whether it's tumblers reblog or on vine you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► refine on Twitter you can retweet on Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► you basically have to upload a photo I would almost say is the defining feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► of tumblr yeah yeah probably yeah that's interesting and it's hard you have to NM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► from a phone you're kind of stuck as you can to save and Instagram to your local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► thing and pick it out and put it back in you've gotta do stuff like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► screenshot screenshot and there are apps that do this it's like three gram or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► something like that and you know they're all insured decisions that they've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► in that they seem to have just decided no fraud them and again it's really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► to argue with with them they've whatever they're doing is working so well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► you almost can't argue that they could be doing better in the end they've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► little changes like to explore screen is so much more interesting now that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► are basing it on your friends and and yeah you follow so that's great that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5696">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► image tools that they've built the you know not just the filters but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► different image tools are really really really good you know I also think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► they have excellent notification controls because I easily and without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► any confusion set up Instagram so they're only notified when people who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► follow do something of interest like I don't want notifications when any show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► favorite twenty my instagrams I only one ones you know i i get very few can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► believe people leave that on pick up someone's phone sometimes in the forties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► I will not name names because I find it to be such curiously needy Peter but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► do I have definitely seen people who have that turned on I look at see who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► you know who likes my photos that's I think that's one of the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► parts of that oh yeah but I don't know physicians don't know I i'm i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► gotten care and I don't like look back at yesterday's thing and then open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► the rest and see it but i dont notifications for it totally and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► another one is that they don't have an iPad app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► yeah that's a huge crazy because it's actually my first serve people were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► well I would you use Instagram on an iPad who's taking photos on an iPad well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► the answer is a lot of people take photos on an iPad and I look at a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► Instagram on the iPad and it's actually gotten better sex it was really great on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► the iPhone six-plus and it's gotten a little better over the years as the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► acts multiplication set up on the iPad has has gotten a little better but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► like mine is it really isn't that hard to make an iPad maybe it is I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► now not broad strokes not yet once you can be depending on how Europe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► architected but if you're able to support the new iPhone 6 sizes then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► you're doing stuff that makes it really easy to do iPad 2 and fact it's so easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► that with this whole size class and you know there was a huge huge point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► emphasis at WWDC this year two huge part of Iowa see all of it clearly was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► know about setting things up so that absurd ready for the iPhone 6 with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► new to new sizes but it's so great an iPad app now is really almost almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► like just creating another bigger I from size if you can do this six and success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► you can do the iPad and I say that even though Vestberg which does support the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► six and success don't have an iPad version but if we really wanted to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► everything else we're doing and do that it actually wouldn't be that much work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► and Marco even talked about that with overcast where he got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► an actor you call it accidental version of an iPad version of overcast oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► member here because there was a bug where if you used a storyboard for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► startup screen didn't matter if you also specified in your XML that hate me this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► app I'm I'm iphoneonly so if I'm running on an iPad 1 mean the iPhone that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► had a bummer if you had that story board as your startup image it would say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► you're a modern nap so I'll run you as an iPad out and actually without him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► ever even intending it to trying it actually was usable so yes it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► this point it seems like there's no technical reason why Instagram should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► not have an iPad and then one more is the icon I mean you know every literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► every app on my iPhone home screen has done something a little more I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► inspired I can almost see I'm not an icon are artists but I can almost see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► what the flat Instagram icon would look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► keep the colors keep the basic gimmick that it looks like a Polaroid and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5934">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► flatten it right so is this you know that they're not not doing these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► to spite people so I just wonder and I i guess I should probably a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► journalist and ask and maybe I will but it still is is a frequent user is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► has puzzled me over the years and yes she recently as you see that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► arguably the second or third most important social network in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► that you know and I totally am on the side of simplicity and saying no and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► that stuff but yeah well I think that your your bucket list right there your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► checklist of what Instagram would should do is excellent because it does to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► doesn't add any complexity like supporting the iPad doesn't make using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► Instagram more complex it just makes it better you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► yeah and and in addition I'll just throw this point in addition to the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► that a lot of people and Apple even admits it now that a lot of people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► their iPad as a camera for producing iPad Instagram content but clearly photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► photography is something that always looks better beer always so it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► better if you had both you know side-by-side will always be better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► look at Instagram on the iPad I think when they eventually do I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► will write their gonna come out that I think when they do people are gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► like wow this is amazing I can't believe that they didn't do this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► totally alright so you're Kevin Systrom get on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► understand like that as part of Facebook they've had to build out and advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► business and I find their ads to be totally finally they're not look at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► and I see all that's kind of Jesus so that's an ad but I'm not mad that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► there and I know that they have to build business i'm happy that they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► that and maybe that's why you know maybe they're waiting on adding hyperlinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► until they have a commerce business of some sort but it just makes me maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6053">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► like them a little less I guess holding out for that you're only gonna get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► only get links if you pay for it I don't know about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► just don't know if that helps anyone either so why why Love Instagram and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► not know not trying to be a jerk but I think one way that you can measure and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► know that this monthly active viewers things like the industry standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► numerically but actually like the way that you can do better way to measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► social networks is when you're out in the real world and you look at like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► menu at the restaurant or the window of the place we're gonna buy you know baked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► goods or something like that which I constantly have their right and it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► long time it was just Facebook and Twitter a lot of places I saw your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► depending on you know sometimes you too but usually when it was Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6115">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► man I see Instagram everywhere now I don't know why I said I'll actually I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► gonna make an effort now that if I see Facebook and Twitter but don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► Instagram I'll take a picture of it and start collecting it and I'll bet I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► I bet I don't get many IC Instagram everywhere is clearly on par with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► Twitter in terms of that and I would even had time going back to Eric Jackson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► I do see the Pinterest logo a lot of more places now it's not as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► those as Facebook Twitter and Instagram but it's growing yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► yeah I think so especially anything with a good visual component to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► shopping food you know that sort of stuff I think you know not to get too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► deep on this back she think that companies make better instagramers then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► they make Twitter users I think that you know I follow a lot of restaurants and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6174">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► stores that I've been to vacations in that kind of thing on Instagram you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► even even places I may never go back to just the kind of remember them that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► would never follow on Twitter us on Twitter they're talking you know here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► our daily specials or something like that are here is a link to a story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► we were mentioned in whereas on Instagram they're showing photos of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► their shop where their neighborhood of their products or of their customers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► that kind of stuff actually a really interesting I followed the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► Yankees account on Instagram and Twitter and on Twitter a lot of the time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► they tweet my my finger starts covering towards the unfollow button and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► Instagram it's almost always great it's like some kind of picture of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► either something going on in the current Yankee season and promise from a staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► member with incredible access right like you know on the field at batting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► practice like a great angle of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► or it's like a piece of history like history and and it always makes me smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► like exactly why I wanted to follow them on Instagram whereas on Twitter that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► has tags and shit yeah where you know and this is like maybe they close out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► you know having volumes yesterday was quoted I think in fortune saying I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► give a shit if Twitter has more users and Instagram which is put in by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► wayside aside Evan Williams is working harder than everyone seems to be working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► is really done a great job with medium and yeah and I'm really impressed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► that anyway but i think is right I think that Twitter and Instagram by comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► them because you have the same metric monthly active users sure that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► fair but they really are different products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► yeah you know and and there's there's obviously bad blood because twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► probably could have and should have bought Instagram and Facebook should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► that kind of thing but yeah and I think in their buyers remorse over not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► bought them that's why they bought fine and rain is you know I don't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► failure but it's not at that level yet but still exists but it's doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► interesting stuff but it's not Instagram nobody's putting fine logos on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► joke but it's in really good sign of real world you know awareness I I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► take another thing I noticed about Instagram is I when I go to like pouring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► like a Yankee game or something like that I see people taking Instagram's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► using Instagram more on their found more than I see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► tweeting joining hear something funny is that while we've been taping this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► podcast about 20 people I work with have stopped by this conference room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► taking pictures of me through the glass and I and I bet they're gonna wind up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► Instagram and not on Twitter if you see it together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► very strange like you know the first couple as I have very funny and like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6355">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► people have taken pictures but anyway the point is like Twitter and Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► I would not really the same thing I mean is like breaking news from the from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► fronts in the war fronts in in Ferguson although I guess Instagram you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► people are posting photos and that kind of stuff but Twitter's like the global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► pulse of information and Instagram is you know look how cool my life is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► kind of thing so yeah look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► yeah I look at this thing look at where I hear anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► instagram has destroyed something like Foursquare more than it more than it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► really affected Twitter and Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► problems are its own problems you know there there are so many things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► Twitter needs to figure out but competing with Instagram I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► and being upset that you know or or people trying to make them look small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► because instagram has more users I don't think that has anything to do with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6416">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► yeah I guess it's the same concept it's just you pick a list of people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► certain companies and you'll see a chronological stream of what they post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► same concept as Twitter but in practice because of the differences in what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► you know photos versus text it is having a very different purpose and this fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► what you just said is actually kind of interesting because it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► Instagram is a better fulfillment of Twitter's original idea of its purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► the what am i doing right now right it used to be like was not what was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► original prompt for Twitter in a few oh I don't know what you know what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► doing what's going on maybe that's what it is now you know when people used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► treat you like at at at the dentist or something like that yeah nobody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► tweet that anymore right nobody's going to tweet at the dentist just those words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► but Steve Wozniak well but I have definitely see like when I see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6473">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► friends I see friends who take like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► a first-person perspective of their feet in the dentist's chair yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► he's you know you no problem yet totally in effect today you know you don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► if you can compose it artistically now I said this week that when that news hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► when the news broke and again like you said I don't think it's any kind of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► news for Twitter that Instagram's bigger just it's just an interesting sign it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► just you know and doesn't mean that they're even more valuable than Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► it's just interesting but I do think though that they're part of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► success is that they've kept that simplicity and and and there's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► know the people running Instagram in designing it and keeping it they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► exactly what it is and they get whereas to me part of Twitter's problem in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► recent years is that the people running Twitter don't seem to get what Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► is there just seems to me they seemed lost and I think part of it is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6536">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► have this ambition to be as big as Facebook and I think the problem is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► that what Twitter is good for is fundamentally never going to be as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► as profitable as what Facebook and so it can you live with that you know why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► if you could still profitable yeah I think that's a great way of putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► like like if you make I don't know toaster ovens and you find out that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► toaster oven business is not as profitable as the automobile industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► should you start making cars no I don't you know just keep making good toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► ovens if you know and just let it be let it be the business that is you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► i just think that Twitter is so obsessed with Facebook that they've lost their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► way to leadership level yea or or why don't know if it's a 90 day if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► think that way internally I think that the outside perspective especially among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6597">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► the investor community is a well why isn't Twitter becoming as big as well my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► my my evidence that I think that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► that they do internally as the way that first person first person first party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► Twitter clients meaning if you go to twitter.com you used the Twitter app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► that your timeline is now has is no longer just the simple chronological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► order here the people you follow in their tweets you know that there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► sorts of other stuff that's injected in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► yeah but I don't think that stems from trying to be more like Facebook I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► that is trying to solve the problem that most people have a shitty timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► because they don't follow enough people they signed up for Twitter they may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► some may be followed auto follow this people that are suggested to them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► getting people to keep following more Twitter accounts is kind of a central to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► building a really great time line I love my timeline I also follow 3,300 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6655">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► you know and I even run out of stuff to read so how do you automatically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► reinstall a really great time line for someone that's based on what they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► and that's i think thats what they're trying to get out with this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► what I would like to see from Twitter is exactly this like pre-installed hit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► if you could go to the homepage and say show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► soccer Twitter right now booming i'm following a thousand accounts that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► people are talking about really great soccer or let me see tech media Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► you know around an Apple event or something like that yeah and don't be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► simplistic as a hashtag right like what they've gotten as if you use the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► right hash tag you can do it but only if all the tweets are using the hashtag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► whereas it seems that you know Google Google web search seems distant proof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► that you can build something where you could just say soccer and just get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► figure out like here's some great soccer cleats to fall so I think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6715">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► they're trying to get out and you know as is typical for Twitter the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► thing they have they ever do is explain themselves so they've done a typically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► poor job explaining why they're doing any of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► and you know and now with new with yet another product leader who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► they're going to keep working on what they're not gonna keep doing although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► will say the new guy in charge of product kevin has been there forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► you know if there's anyone I as a user trust to not be a hoser it's him so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► alright can't beat that damn from her thank you very much for your time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► where can people find out more from Dan Frommer follow me on Twitter from down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► or on Instagram if you wanna see a cute dog photos I guess yeah those are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6776">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► best places to follow me know right now I'm writing it courts which is QZ dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► com but you'll find all the best it from the link from linking to the court stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► everything everything I do you know wherever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► owners yea and they're getting rid of all the spam accounts so we'll see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► many spam followers I have end up I was not following you on Instagram yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► like hey look at me I'm in tokyo but so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► you know I think they have with us for yeah I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► yeah she didn't and now right now I know looking at the picture you have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► really great stories and working on from Tok that I was reporting in Tokyo it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► be publishing over the next few weeks I did two already 11 was you did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► that new OK Go Video yes the one with the double shot from a drone yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► so I went to so I wasn't Tokyo I think now three weeks ago maybe some like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► so e-mail Honda and said hey can I can I ride one of those things and so I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► and right around one of those little scooters their call the unique club and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► that was awesome I was super fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► so if you if you search I don't even know how you would find this I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► put a link on my website to these stories sooner than later and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► thing is Toshiba like like most japanese old Japanese tech companies is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► struggling with growth so they took an old floppy disk factory in the suburbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► of Tokyo and turned it into a clean room indoor let us farm so I heard that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► posted a bunch of photos of that now is super cool I had to put on a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► half bunny suit and sterilize my camera and it was awesome it's a great shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6896">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► yes so that stuff is on my Instagram I guess actually it is and you can't link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzoqxQo/6904">TS</a>]