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100: ‘People Are Gay All the Time’, With John Moltz


00:00:00   get the feeling that maybe a semitism fully baked occasionally so yes I went [TS]

00:00:08   back in a fight with my input I think it's the amendment also restarted did [TS]

00:00:13   but still exactly as you just you just recorded a show 22 efforts ago and [TS]

00:00:21   everything and and what happened back in but that shouldn't happen I i I really [TS]

00:00:31   cannot explain now there's a new Skype 7 a.m. town over justly keep one machine [TS]

00:00:38   and pristine working condition and never unplug anything or restart it that's [TS]

00:00:45   sort of what I do with my macbook air like I haven't upgraded it to yosemite [TS]

00:00:49   country in like old man conservative you know like if it ain't broke don't fix it [TS]

00:00:55   with this machine and it's dole you know and I don't update new versions of Skype [TS]

00:01:00   and it still gives me problems you know like trying to be real conservative [TS]

00:01:04   about what I do with the software on this particular machine doesn't seem to [TS]

00:01:09   make a very little discipline is your answer you run it on and stuff yeah I [TS]

00:01:26   it's been very complicated been complicated last few months because I've [TS]

00:01:31   had I had from Apple and this wasn't just a special treat for John Gruber [TS]

00:01:38   think it was a lot of us got it they gave us review unit to WBC MacBook Pro [TS]

00:01:47   with comedy already installed as they actually wanted us to start using lied [TS]

00:01:52   about it yeah [TS]

00:01:55   serious I had needed he might be needed five but you know they gave him they [TS]

00:02:06   give him an iPhone and reviews in a TPB he got an iPhone sex so that he not to [TS]

00:02:15   review the events expert so he could write about continuity features which is [TS]

00:02:21   really really really awesome that he you know there's a big help to him you know [TS]

00:02:24   they've been very helpful stuff like that but that machine is gone now have [TS]

00:02:30   done down the two machines in new 13 inch MacBook Pro and I've already again [TS]

00:02:35   I started life just got it like a month ago it started on your 72 never seen [TS]

00:02:40   anything but my old MacBook Air I just keep minus one had to get my wife needed [TS]

00:02:46   the machine they had to make sure I got it before you simply came on everything [TS]

00:02:50   because she would freak [TS]

00:02:54   just might be the change in operating system now we've had this discussion [TS]

00:03:01   before too but she doesn't like it either like you walk by later my phone [TS]

00:03:04   over in like they'll be like a badge 57 out do you update your apps [TS]

00:03:15   automatically do you have the App Store said see i dont have it said to update [TS]

00:03:19   automatically but I do like like OCD like every time there's update I'd [TS]

00:03:25   install them but the reason I don't do it automatically as I wanna know when [TS]

00:03:28   there's no wonder I like to read the release notes probably safer and just in [TS]

00:03:34   case you know I can't remember the last time that I've had like an app that I [TS]

00:03:40   didn't want to update been years you know just in case there's like you know [TS]

00:03:45   some kind of you know regression in a nap yeah it happened [TS]

00:03:53   right like the equivalent of like what they did with pages and iWork suite on [TS]

00:03:59   Mac you know going from nine to whatever they call the new ones and I mean [TS]

00:04:04   basically some of those just because of the way the App Store work in the [TS]

00:04:07   process because normally developers would just roll back something that was [TS]

00:04:13   there is a collection of her something they can't do that they have to resubmit [TS]

00:04:19   it you know I noticed someone talking about pages I I am i big complaint and [TS]

00:04:29   the thing that I could not stand about the update 2 pages in particular is that [TS]

00:04:34   for the few things I use word processing like for example with sponsors sometimes [TS]

00:04:39   you know if I send them an invoice I have a page template and it's really [TS]

00:04:42   nice I've got a nice typography on it and for years now maybe even 10 years [TS]

00:04:48   Mac OS tennishead wonderful built in system-level typography so that I can [TS]

00:04:53   open type font that has small caps and alternate dinner the figures the old [TS]

00:05:02   style figures were the numbers dropped below the baseline or sometimes go above [TS]

00:05:06   the baseline and you can [TS]

00:05:08   system wide open Text Editor Free Text you know just the symbols [TS]

00:05:14   replacement for simple text go to find panel open the typography panel and you [TS]

00:05:18   get this wonderful typography controls my template all set up with you know [TS]

00:05:24   small caps for certain things and stuff like that and pages the new version of [TS]

00:05:28   pages last year 2013 version dropped support for all of that in the name of [TS]

00:05:33   compatibility with iOS which doesn't have any of those typography features [TS]

00:05:37   anymore so I stuck with the patron pages in particular I stuck with 2009 version [TS]

00:05:42   like numbers I i dont know why I don't know what the you know I'm such as [TS]

00:05:46   simple simpleton using a spreadsheet that I didn't notice anything worse in [TS]

00:05:53   numbers I use the new version in numbers but I use the old version of pages but I [TS]

00:05:57   notice with the latest version of pages it's it is so complicated [TS]

00:06:01   I they had like an update with your sanity and I'm hoping that the [TS]

00:06:06   typography stuff is back and it's not create a new document and pages and you [TS]

00:06:12   have a fight that has true small-caps not like the fake fake fake small caps [TS]

00:06:16   but real small caps there's no way did to turn text into small caps in the new [TS]

00:06:21   version but if you open and pages 09 document in a new version of pages and [TS]

00:06:28   you already have small caps it now [TS]

00:06:30   still supports it doesn't make it go away so it and it seems like what you [TS]

00:06:37   can do it doesn't get into it seems like what you can do is you can open a new [TS]

00:06:43   version pages you can switch to text it and make your text in you know use the [TS]

00:06:48   advanced typography its features copy and paste it go back two pages and paste [TS]

00:06:53   works as weird so so it's really really like you know it I guess seems like [TS]

00:07:01   they're making some kind of progress on that front but it's actually more [TS]

00:07:04   complicated than it was a year ago when the simple it was just a simple answer [TS]

00:07:07   no you can use this feature [TS]

00:07:12   it's like there's nothing to do with iMovie years ago [TS]

00:07:15   yeah yeah when they switched from being a sort of very basic traditional [TS]

00:07:21   non-linear video editor to do whatever I was even seen that guy is Randy obelisk [TS]

00:07:33   still there you know I may not be there anymore [TS]

00:07:39   very good questions I heard something about him possibly leaving not like I [TS]

00:07:44   have any you know that he was in trouble but sort of you know that he'd been [TS]

00:07:48   there had been burned out you know that you know you know just had been their [TS]

00:07:53   own major major software projects for years and years and he may not be there [TS]

00:07:57   I'm not sure to good question anybody knows liberties you can tell me and then [TS]

00:08:00   doing a function really listens to show you know you'd be surprised but have not [TS]

00:08:08   checked alright I actually got it very nice email from somebody at Comcast it [TS]

00:08:18   was actually very very nice email somebody is you know seems to be a true [TS]

00:08:21   fan of the show and they said that they were they were half laughing and crying [TS]

00:08:24   for hours but fired they TV guys had a good a good bit about how he was not the [TS]

00:08:36   guy who was I would I want to hear from as I want to hear from the guy who made [TS]

00:08:39   that graphic I want to hear the story of how the traffic now that ATP guys had a [TS]

00:08:48   good bit about the way that the iWorks apps feature wise you know when [TS]

00:08:54   comparing contrast that with Microsoft which you know never takes fans away if [TS]

00:08:59   there's ever in advance you know if we were never gained advanced typography [TS]

00:09:02   features you can bank on it that it's never gonna lose them in the future and [TS]

00:09:09   any other thing that they brought up in this to me is so crazy it cannot believe [TS]

00:09:13   that it's true and I didn't even know it i have it like Mark to do more research [TS]

00:09:18   on it [TS]

00:09:19   linking up from Darren fireball that apparently the new version of [TS]

00:09:23   of at least pages but maybe it's the whole iWork suite no longer reads [TS]

00:09:27   documents iwerks documents that are older than the versions created by the [TS]

00:09:32   09 versions really so like yes I like pages like that the oldest Pages [TS]

00:09:39   document you can open now in the current version of pages is from pages 09 [TS]

00:09:43   anything created with a version of pages earlier than pages 09 will no longer [TS]

00:09:47   open in pages which is as crazy as I was about to delete the old version in the [TS]

00:09:54   09 version supports that stuff in a folder I was thinking I can just get rid [TS]

00:09:59   of that iWork 09 folder is not now known as crazy or at the very least and it [TS]

00:10:05   sounds like such such busy work but you really like the sensible idea you know [TS]

00:10:11   what you really need to do is find every single iwerks document that you have an [TS]

00:10:15   open it costs like if make sure see if you have seriously this is what you we [TS]

00:10:23   would have to do what we will have to do is open up every version and any [TS]

00:10:27   documentation fine that's older than 09 and make sure it's saved as 09 at the [TS]

00:10:32   very least to go back I'm sure got some someplace but I probably can't find them [TS]

00:10:36   right now try it but I will make sure to add a note and put that in the show [TS]

00:10:42   notes and I have a link where everybody but I got away from it but it's so crazy [TS]

00:10:46   and that you know they they rightly pointed out that that is exactly like [TS]

00:10:52   where Microsoft is so great because they you does not like you know that word [TS]

00:10:59   today [TS]

00:11:00   go by the latest version of Microsoft Word you know it opens [TS]

00:11:05   1.0 don't know what I would you bet against just right click like if you set [TS]

00:11:17   up like a 1984 like PC running like da Stu and like the first version of [TS]

00:11:24   Microsoft Word four-dot I don't even know what maybe dogs came out later 1984 [TS]

00:11:29   whatever the first year that das one you know . at Microsoft Word document save [TS]

00:11:34   it I guarantee you that that document will open with four fidelity in today's [TS]

00:11:38   microsoft word did you work did you use the word back now I was always a Mac [TS]

00:11:47   right man okay okay yeah yeah I used word until six where they screwed [TS]

00:11:55   everything up and then yeah and I started using wordperfect [TS]

00:12:02   my wife and his word perfect for years even like long after it had been [TS]

00:12:08   basically forgotten I don't even know if I ever even used word perfect and it was [TS]

00:12:16   pretty was for some thing was it was always popular wordperfect was huge in [TS]

00:12:21   the legal community I think I remember correctly for some reason and then word [TS]

00:12:25   was leaked everywhere else [TS]

00:12:28   and it was a big was a big problem for a lot of thinking that's kinda what drove [TS]

00:12:34   a lot of people to switch to PCs because they're using Word and they had to [TS]

00:12:41   switch to world anyway and various other using wordperfect and they had to switch [TS]

00:12:45   to Mac and they had to switch to world anyway and so they're like well I must [TS]

00:12:49   switch I gotta buy a license so I'm just gonna go by MPC one thing from that era [TS]

00:12:56   was that there were no demos for commercial software and the commercial [TS]

00:13:02   software was very exams so you really our only options where to pirate it [TS]

00:13:07   spend a significant amount of money like probably I'm guessing you know like a [TS]

00:13:14   word perfect for Mac was probably like $149 oh that was like the student [TS]

00:13:19   license maybe even a hundred and that's like nineteen ninety dollars you know [TS]

00:13:27   not just a liddo it's not long enough ago that inflation has some you know [TS]

00:13:32   some of you still use the old you can exchange you take that down in exchange [TS]

00:13:38   for gold government now I was always a Mac rate I'm a great man and part of it [TS]

00:13:47   maybe was just that I don't think I had to pay for it because it drexel we we [TS]

00:13:51   had like a university-wide site license for everything from Clarus and you could [TS]

00:13:57   just go to the student center and get my first like first couple of years like [TS]

00:14:02   their early nineties 9192 you'd go to the student center with blank floppies [TS]

00:14:07   and there was a machine where you just put them in and it would one-by-one you [TS]

00:14:12   know you tell one you know the whole Clara sweep you know yet what else there [TS]

00:14:17   but you know like Mac right something I we had excelled though it wasn'ta Clara [TS]

00:14:22   spreadsheet at the time and we had like like a university-wide site license for [TS]

00:14:27   Excel too and you would just go there with all you have to do is bring your [TS]

00:14:31   own poppies poppies and you get like officially licensed install disks for [TS]

00:14:36   cell like right now I always like I can remember not getting getting an [TS]

00:14:43   officially licensed yeah crazy it is absolutely crazy which was like one [TS]

00:14:55   point for four megabytes if it was double density high density right there [TS]

00:15:03   was the original lobbies however 401 Syracuse's Syracuse L is me on this cuz [TS]

00:15:12   I've whenever we go retro on the show I always say that they started at eight [TS]

00:15:16   hundred know they're like 1984 smacks had 400 K [TS]

00:15:21   3.5 inch floppy these and then and then 801 804 called double density and high [TS]

00:15:30   density [TS]

00:15:32   you could take even though you could take a double density the 800 K one and [TS]

00:15:40   if you punched a hole in the corner you could that the the floppy driver treated [TS]

00:15:46   as a high-density want because there was like for backwards compatibility the way [TS]

00:15:53   that they did it was [TS]

00:15:57   the high-density the ones you know one point four megabyte capacity with the [TS]

00:16:01   exact same form factor as the 800 K ones so you could put it in the same drive [TS]

00:16:05   but the way the drive would recognize that it was high density is that the [TS]

00:16:10   high-density once had a hole in the corner and if you took like it was the [TS]

00:16:16   dead people may I don't know if you could use a hole punch but there was a [TS]

00:16:20   good thing that people made you could buy that you would punch a hole in 800 K [TS]

00:16:24   desk and then the driver treated as a high-density one even though like the [TS]

00:16:30   manufacturer hadn't made it for that like that he'll lose you see we were [TS]

00:16:35   with her are dating back then the sailors floppy sometimes a little bit [TS]

00:16:41   now that's that's how the world works and you can fit you had to be able to [TS]

00:16:48   fit in a pond one I guess you get their installers for big bigger software where [TS]

00:16:55   the software would run across multiple discs and it would be like a zip file or [TS]

00:17:01   the equivalent that was spread across multiple yeah right I remember that [TS]

00:17:06   could use story you stuff it spread them across multiple tasks done story but [TS]

00:17:16   anyway I found my son was playing with the old computers they've got liner and [TS]

00:17:21   order and there we've gotta get a performer 6400 and we came down in the [TS]

00:17:29   basement of came across a box full of things like I was like what are these [TS]

00:17:33   authors that we should try this and so do this meticulous process because I was [TS]

00:17:39   like ok we get the symptoms does it played into the the 6400 we start the [TS]

00:17:46   6400 up and there's a password on it and i cant member with the pastors and so ok [TS]

00:17:53   that's fine there's a way around that and the way is something else you can [TS]

00:17:57   get [TS]

00:17:58   you can get in and just delete this is the high-security on Nos she could just [TS]

00:18:03   delete a file in the assistance during the system for going to delete a file [TS]

00:18:12   and restart that's fine but you gotta start with something else for that model [TS]

00:18:16   won't start a floppy disks yet start off a CD Drive with the CD Drive was broken [TS]

00:18:20   in the 64 hundreds and I don't know why I get this compulsion to do this but I [TS]

00:18:27   like I gotta solve this problem now and I just saw this problem I guess table 8 [TS]

00:18:32   solving this problem so I pull the drive the hard drive 500 and I take it up and [TS]

00:18:39   I put it in my my PowerMac g4 PowerMac as an extra drive start up the lead to [TS]

00:18:46   fight he'll take it back down put it back in the 6400 and as I'm putting it [TS]

00:18:52   back in the 6400 and reconnecting everything I have the Zip Drive sitting [TS]

00:18:57   on top of the 6400 and to stand in the basement of this cement floor and I [TS]

00:19:02   knocked the drive off on a break this if I went through this huge prizes and in [TS]

00:19:09   the end I just read the thing that I was trying to connect them looking at some [TS]

00:19:19   in the market for a new drive now I was like I did look on ebay and it's like [TS]

00:19:24   fifteen 15 20 bucks to get it holds up criminals like at the point where [TS]

00:19:30   actually came to shelling out money but my time is worthless but my money is not [TS]

00:19:33   easily heard you easily per ten times that you easily burn hundreds of dollars [TS]

00:19:43   I imagine if it was like somebody commissioned to write an article that [TS]

00:19:51   would take it out and then he said and it paid $15 right but but when it came [TS]

00:19:58   to find actually give somebody 15 bucks for an older so actually I actually had [TS]

00:20:06   to use word recently speaking of the price of word and you know that being [TS]

00:20:12   able to get a license because you could just get up like the office 360 license [TS]

00:20:18   for you can pay by the month end its like seven bucks a month or something [TS]

00:20:22   like that for just the regular version for the Mac version there is no link [TS]

00:20:29   enterprise stuff there's no access I saw that this weekend at the you know the [TS]

00:20:36   news you know the big news story this week from Microsoft was within the last [TS]

00:20:41   week but that they've made the the mobile versions of The Office apps [TS]

00:20:47   freidy's like pretty much no stranger the basic functionality of it yes but [TS]

00:20:54   its reach you know read read right before it was that you could read [TS]

00:20:58   documents but you couldn't and now you can you can't do track changes and [TS]

00:21:05   probably a couple of some of the stuff in the big one I think that people often [TS]

00:21:09   use track changes and to pay for it and that santa came out with Android [TS]

00:21:16   versions to that story is interesting I think so I mean I think differently and [TS]

00:21:25   said they were going to do that [TS]

00:21:29   and there was some assembly I saw somebody reach we did ok and executive [TS]

00:21:35   from Google saying can't wait for Microsoft Office Mobile is the official [TS]

00:21:41   office companion optimized for your Android phone you can access view and [TS]

00:21:46   edit your Microsoft Word Excel I'm guessing that yeah yeah they have [TS]

00:21:51   entered versions it seems you know that and again you know it's this weird with [TS]

00:21:59   Microsoft Word it was the same boat as with Apple with would have done if the [TS]

00:22:05   old CEO is still there but it does seem there but it does seem though that this [TS]

00:22:12   is a bomber had to go for this type of thing like and makes you wonder how [TS]

00:22:23   different Microsoft position in mobile might have been if they had known as ago [TS]

00:22:27   right like what if they had done it in 2009 at least Friday west face it by 10 [TS]

00:22:36   2009 Android wasn't good as a sip platform wasn't good enough for stuff [TS]

00:22:40   like that at least for the iPhone they had done it then and then in 2010 when [TS]

00:22:49   the iPad came out they would have already been on iOS and that could have [TS]

00:22:53   you know if the iPad had debuted in a world where there's already a functional [TS]

00:22:59   microsoft office we could have really changed their you know their status [TS]

00:23:07   overall in the post-pc world really with so much because the office the office [TS]

00:23:14   products are really tied into a way that people work as much as they used to be [TS]

00:23:21   so much of our things that we produce are for the web and office after night [TS]

00:23:29   applications not really used for production well for us that's true and I [TS]

00:23:35   suspect it's true for a lot of the people who listen to like our shows but [TS]

00:23:40   I might might test for what goes on in the real world is always the snooping I [TS]

00:23:44   do and airports you know not snooping but you know looking over what it what's [TS]

00:23:49   this guy you know as I go to the bathroom on the plane just look at what [TS]

00:23:52   they do and I've noticed a lot of mentioned this before but I see it over [TS]

00:23:58   and over again I noticed a lot of business people who you know just [TS]

00:24:02   judging by their attire and judging by the fact that they've PCs and that a lot [TS]

00:24:08   of times ICIC PowerPoint and Excel CIC laugh a lot of Excel and I also see a [TS]

00:24:14   lot of Outlook email you know where windows look and then I see them like [TS]

00:24:23   you know an hour and a half into the flight they fold up the laptop and then [TS]

00:24:28   they take on an iPad I see it over and over and over [TS]

00:24:32   right it's like they've got they want to you know they want to get caught up on [TS]

00:24:36   their email or they're working on a thing and Excel and as soon as they're [TS]

00:24:42   done with it then you know when it's time to relax they go to an iPad yeah [TS]

00:24:46   sure they're not just popping the keyboard after service you know what [TS]

00:24:52   it's funny I I can make fun of the surface but i've i've seen more and more [TS]

00:24:57   of them in the AM it's no longer and Luke well I don't think of something [TS]

00:25:02   great but it's not it's not close its I see more of them that I see people using [TS]

00:25:12   Windows Phones and again maybe maybe it's just easier to notice because [TS]

00:25:17   people if I see someone using the surface it's pretty easy to identify it [TS]

00:25:21   as a surface and it's it's kind of hard to tell what phone somebody's using [TS]

00:25:26   usually tell right from the back without seeing the screen you can usually tell [TS]

00:25:33   iPhone or not i phone but if it's not iPhone who down those internet you can [TS]

00:25:38   see the screen but on the other hand if you can't see the screen Windows Phone [TS]

00:25:42   is so distinctive you I was I think it's pretty easy and I don't see many of them [TS]

00:25:48   I see a lot more surface tablet [TS]

00:25:52   see the whole thing where that election night [TS]

00:26:00   paid to use services and then right just sorta like pretty much exactly like [TS]

00:26:06   they've done with the NFL or two where everybody they've they've carpet bombed [TS]

00:26:13   all the NFL studio teams you know let's go back have time is good here the [TS]

00:26:20   halftime report and everybody in the studio has surfaced in front of them and [TS]

00:26:25   CNN shots are you could tell that their their surfaces were weird being used my [TS]

00:26:32   pet its first and everybody loves the kickstand right makes a great stand for [TS]

00:26:40   I am really do mean this I i think is a good marketing move that's actually [TS]

00:26:44   worse it was overall overall net effect of that campaign did was was actually [TS]

00:26:50   worse cuz I think there were more people noticed you know who caught on to the [TS]

00:26:55   you know they were actually propping up I'm mad tangle then who noticed you know [TS]

00:27:00   from TV like hey it looks like a Microsoft Surface it's actually worse I [TS]

00:27:06   think it actually hurts their their efforts because it makes it seem like [TS]

00:27:09   their products a joke I'm actually in the market might be in the market for a [TS]

00:27:15   PC cuz my son who likes to play games and has his most of his buddies for PC [TS]

00:27:23   users he's got like this identification thing now he wants to get a PC [TS]

00:27:28   and like some of the stuff is actually a little bit easier to manage because some [TS]

00:27:35   of the IPC because [TS]

00:27:38   the instant star their specific installers that are written for Windows [TS]

00:27:41   instead of [TS]

00:27:43   other clients and whether list [TS]

00:27:47   America on the Mac and Linux so so the kids and it's a weird problem to have to [TS]

00:27:55   be in this in that market because I can't figure out what I have no idea [TS]

00:28:00   what to get [TS]

00:28:01   late trying to find a laptop a Windows laptop that is we have with my with my [TS]

00:28:07   Mac standard it's really difficult there's nothing of the same quality [TS]

00:28:14   at least not in the same kind of price range most of the stuff is plastic and [TS]

00:28:20   the higher end stuff like there's the razor blade is supposed to be a great [TS]

00:28:23   gaming laptop PC but he wants a laptop [TS]

00:28:28   yeah yeah well I think he should have a laptop yeah he likes to him and he was [TS]

00:28:33   right and you know you'd like to take it with him when we travel and stuff like [TS]

00:28:39   that so but the race starts at 1900 parks and I'm not gonna give you know [TS]

00:28:45   he's going to spill like $1,800 $1,900 for start starting price for a razor [TS]

00:28:51   blade nice-looking computer it's like it's like a black looks like I say that [TS]

00:28:58   I just realized that I said that like I was totally offended I just believed I'd [TS]

00:29:02   like $3500 on my MacBook Pro which I don't drink out because I know that it's [TS]

00:29:09   an excellent machine and it's made of aluminum and that's an assist from Apple [TS]

00:29:14   and its really nice and I just assumed that the nicest PC there is impossible I [TS]

00:29:20   realized that there was a very pious man now I can totally don't like a 10 year [TS]

00:29:28   old 1919 her laptop and then the other ones are the alien the Alienware gaming [TS]

00:29:35   laptops but they start 11 like $1100 and another big clunky so it wouldn't you [TS]

00:29:45   know this experiment is going to take or not you don't think though that when you [TS]

00:29:55   reboot into Windows boot camp boot camp is not the solution [TS]

00:30:00   well he needs a new machine cuz he's using an old old MacBook Pro 2010 and [TS]

00:30:08   he's been he's been in a pretty well and the truth is I mean among you know what [TS]

00:30:16   there's video editing i mean there's a few things that that work was really [TS]

00:30:20   pushing machine these days but gaming there's always going to me as always I [TS]

00:30:26   mean until the end of our lives it's going to you know there's never going to [TS]

00:30:28   be a decrease in pushing the limits of computing you know any gain for your old [TS]

00:30:35   computer in a game in ancient combine that with the fact that MacBooks aren't [TS]

00:30:41   exactly known for being optimized for gaming in the first place winner brand [TS]

00:30:45   new and you can really you know yeah I mean so I can get you know I could get [TS]

00:30:50   $700 Lenovo that has a nice video card in it i mean it the thing is made out of [TS]

00:30:58   plastic the outside is terrible but it comes with eight gigs of ram and it's [TS]

00:31:03   got a good video card in it [TS]

00:31:04   well let's come back to take a break because it ties into something else [TS]

00:31:10   they're good friends at Squarespace you guys know Squarespace there it's a great [TS]

00:31:19   way to build your own website I just think back to what it was like before [TS]

00:31:24   things like Squarespace existed where if you wanted to start a new website and [TS]

00:31:29   you had to start something like BBEdit with new document and that's where [TS]

00:31:34   you're starting from it was daunting like and it would you know you don't [TS]

00:31:38   need start a new website if you really had wanted to devote a lot of time to [TS]

00:31:41   just getting it off the ground [TS]

00:31:43   whereas with Squarespace if you have an idea for a new website you can actually [TS]

00:31:48   have the website up and running in like minutes instead of days [TS]

00:31:53   amazing it's a totally different world and so much easier now they've been [TS]

00:31:59   around for a while they've been sponsoring the show and other shows for [TS]

00:32:02   a while now you've heard about him [TS]

00:32:04   but they've just launched what they're calling Squarespace seven and you can go [TS]

00:32:09   to Squarespace dot com slash 70 S II ven spell it out for more information on the [TS]

00:32:15   stuff that's new but they key points they've got a redesigned Squarespace 7 [TS]

00:32:20   interface and it's really really nice I think they're old interface was nice but [TS]

00:32:23   the new one is even better integration with Google Apps which is huge for a lot [TS]

00:32:31   of places that are all in on Google Apps they have a partnership with Getty [TS]

00:32:36   Images so it's a lot easier it's just built right into the Squarespace system [TS]

00:32:41   to get stock photography in stock illustration for stuff new templates [TS]

00:32:48   they have cover pages now and a whole bunch more really simple and powerful [TS]

00:32:57   really beautiful design the templates are just top-notch truly professional [TS]

00:33:03   templates that you can just start with and then tweet from there and best of [TS]

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00:33:14   because who wants to talk on the phone [TS]

00:33:16   nobody to me they actually advertise it as a feature and i three you want to [TS]

00:33:22   talk live they've got live chat on Gmail they've got email and their 24 7 365 [TS]

00:33:28   days a year you can always get in touch with them so while you're working on it [TS]

00:33:31   hit a wall if you're confused by something just dial up on the chat they [TS]

00:33:35   want to talk to you and they'll help you straight now and best of all it's starts [TS]

00:33:40   a ridiculous price it eight bucks a month and that includes a FREE domain if [TS]

00:33:45   you pay for it for the year so you can register your domain right through [TS]

00:33:49   Squarespace eight bucks a month [TS]

00:33:52   all of our templates are responsive website scales to look great on the [TS]

00:33:56   phone and tablet big 27 inch iMacs IMAX and every website comes with an online [TS]

00:34:04   store commerce you could set up to sell stuff right there and it's just built [TS]

00:34:08   into the price you don't have to pay extra to turn on this tour so start with [TS]

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00:34:16   worried that you give her credit card are gonna start billing you just go [TS]

00:34:20   there's sign up and when you do pay which would probably be like you know [TS]

00:34:26   two weeks later whenever the demo periods over just remember to give the [TS]

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00:34:39   support for the show them from here to go to Squarespace dot com slash the [TS]

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00:34:46   find out more and be sure to check out all the new features in version 7 my [TS]

00:34:52   thanks to Squarespace alright so to me that your your story about not knowing [TS]

00:34:59   what what to get for hang for a PC is I feel the exact same way and I feel like [TS]

00:35:06   it's just one of those it's it's a chasm between Apple people PC people that only [TS]

00:35:14   widened over the years to me one of the great things about being all in on the [TS]

00:35:19   Apple platform is that it's so easy to know what the best thing you know if I [TS]

00:35:24   want the best iPad I know to get the iPad 2 and you know just decide which [TS]

00:35:30   color I want whether I want cellular and you know how much storage unit it [TS]

00:35:35   whereas if I want the best Android tablet who knows what it is like the [TS]

00:35:39   best Windows gaming PC who knows [TS]

00:35:43   yeah I mean there's some things said there are a few manufacturers that [TS]

00:35:48   specialize in that kind of thing but you know you go to the nobles site too and I [TS]

00:35:54   mean any kind of leaning towards Lenovo just because they've heard that they're [TS]

00:36:00   OK is as opposed to some of the rest of them it seems like a lot of violence [TS]

00:36:03   really had decreased quality over the years and a bunch of people going out of [TS]

00:36:08   business people have bought and the dizzying array of options they are [TS]

00:36:16   presented with four just laptops is on just Lenovo site is ridiculous and I [TS]

00:36:23   can't make heads or tails any of this stuff and there's a section [TS]

00:36:27   there is a it's like a matrix it's like a product matrix of different numbers [TS]

00:36:34   and within those numbers they'll say what's good for homeland good ones could [TS]

00:36:38   for giving one's good for business but I don't know but then you have to get [TS]

00:36:45   through those numbers in life I mean either gaming is the only one that makes [TS]

00:36:52   sense because gaming means it's going to have high-powered graphics if it if [TS]

00:36:57   they're being honest in saying this one is good for gaming that it's got to be [TS]

00:37:00   it means it's good good graphics or at least gaming optimized graphics because [TS]

00:37:06   you know it's you know you could have like a Mac Pro my dad very powerful [TS]

00:37:13   graphics but it's probably a more you know the drivers are more optimized [TS]

00:37:17   towards professional applications than gaming whereas a gaming PC you know what [TS]

00:37:21   i mean to me you know it's set up for all the stuff on Steam to be optimized [TS]

00:37:26   dunno but what's the difference in a machine it's good for him and good for [TS]

00:37:30   business I guess that home is mostly just considered email and web surfing [TS]

00:37:35   and watching this I don't know and businesses businesses somebody else is [TS]

00:37:41   paying for us so this is a more expensive computer see I don't know I [TS]

00:37:47   kinda feel like it's such an artificial distinction that it dates back to the [TS]

00:37:51   back to what we were talking with like word 506 like 1989 and 90 when like [TS]

00:37:58   business would want like a networking card like it was a card that you [TS]

00:38:03   actually had to install in the back of the computer so you can plug Ethernet or [TS]

00:38:06   something like that and in Ethernet card was couple hundred bucks and it was [TS]

00:38:10   expensive and there's no way you'd want that at home because nobody had eaten at [TS]

00:38:14   all and so there where you know like physical differences between what you'd [TS]

00:38:20   want the business environment in a home environment whereas the distinction is [TS]

00:38:25   meaningless today I mean there's a reason why Apple doesn't have business [TS]

00:38:28   vs home distinctions in any other products [TS]

00:38:32   yeah right there's no business iPhone [TS]

00:38:35   business you know how my phone and in fact it's the fact that they didn't do [TS]

00:38:40   that and they don't have any such distinctions is what's driven this whole [TS]

00:38:44   you know I think revolutionary bring your own device to work thing that's [TS]

00:38:50   really gotten you know gaining momentum in like the biggest and most buttoned up [TS]

00:38:56   corporate environment I really think that whole good better best thing that [TS]

00:39:02   they did rounds 2009 that's not even started earlier in the wind up too late [TS]

00:39:12   2003 or something like that then they drop it was brilliant and I think they [TS]

00:39:18   should I frankly think they should still do that I think they do internally but [TS]

00:39:22   it's it's a little bit blurry r you know it's well and the other thing they did [TS]

00:39:30   was they had good better and best but then had just had the simple four-way [TS]

00:39:34   product matrix of pro not pro portable not portable and there was so there was [TS]

00:39:43   the not pro portable was the iBook and the pro portable was the MacBook or i [TS]

00:39:49   guess its powerbook then you know iMac was the night Pro desktop and the [TS]

00:39:55   paramedic however now I was gonna say macro a PowerMac was the Pro desktop and [TS]

00:40:03   then within each one was good better best yeah so it's a little bit more [TS]

00:40:07   complicated now but not too much I don't really have no idea what to do next year [TS]

00:40:12   the iPhone well shelf that lets cuz i think thats a deep conversation we [TS]

00:40:21   should return to it but I don't think it's hard to go in and buy a Macbook [TS]

00:40:25   today I think you know you know what would you rather do would you rather you [TS]

00:40:30   know I think I would get more complex maybe more complex if the rumored retina [TS]

00:40:35   MacBook Airs are coming as you know [TS]

00:40:39   in the early months of next year which i think is probably true I think if the [TS]

00:40:44   iMac has gone right now I think the MacBook Airs probably next and I think [TS]

00:40:49   suddenly suddenly that becomes a little tougher decision to make but it's a [TS]

00:40:53   transition right and if anything it's only going to steer more people towards [TS]

00:40:57   spending a little less and getting the retina MacBook Air and set of the retina [TS]

00:41:03   MacBook Pro 13 inch MacBook Pro you know which i think would save people money [TS]

00:41:09   instead of making people pay more but it's still right now today though it's a [TS]

00:41:13   very easy decision as I do you want the really nice machine and yet it's gonna [TS]

00:41:18   be a little thicker and heavier or do you want the cheaper lighter one which [TS]

00:41:22   is there it was pretty easy I know I'm getting my wife machine was actually [TS]

00:41:30   relatively simple because she's gotta monitors on an external monitor so she [TS]

00:41:36   didn't need a huge screen so ten-inch and definitely the air obviously and [TS]

00:41:44   then it was just storage space and she got a fairly big iPhoto library so she [TS]

00:41:49   knew she couldn't take though 28 gave her drugs and i was thinkin ok if you [TS]

00:41:57   want to get a machine now it's really make sense to get a king's ransom for [TS]

00:42:00   so that was it yeah yeah no other really know any other considerations whatsoever [TS]

00:42:10   yeah and I'm not you know and I'm sure that on the flip side it's like what [TS]

00:42:13   drives like this conversation of what how great it is that we don't have too [TS]

00:42:16   many choices to make [TS]

00:42:18   is exactly what drives PC sure PC fans knots and the think that Android fans [TS]

00:42:24   right as I think they're the same people you know I think that you know that [TS]

00:42:29   people who most liked the fact that they can configure the gym built can still [TS]

00:42:34   build their own PCs for the desktop are the sort of people who think it's [TS]

00:42:39   wonderful that there are so many Android phones [TS]

00:42:43   to choose from my thing was that I'm seriously thinking about like in the [TS]

00:42:49   next couple of weeks probably like maybe like maybe like for the month of [TS]

00:42:52   december 2 tried you know I haven't done it in like two years is given greater [TS]

00:42:57   shot try living for two weeks with an Android phone and so I asked around [TS]

00:43:03   waiting for the next 60 ship which I almost certainly knew I wasn't going to [TS]

00:43:07   want because it's so huge it came out in the reviews came out yesterday a lot of [TS]

00:43:14   them are really really badly just to pull skis you know had pictures from it [TS]

00:43:19   and the heat thinks that the cameras actually worse than last year's Nexus 5 [TS]

00:43:23   both of them are way worse than the iPhone camera it's a really shitty [TS]

00:43:28   camera and that to me is a deal breaker right there but it's just basic question [TS]

00:43:35   to twitter twitter followers is okay let's say I want to give Android [TS]

00:43:39   lollipop the new 5.0 version of Android which I do think from the outside not [TS]

00:43:44   having used it looks like the first one first version of Android ever that's [TS]

00:43:48   pretty well designed right that's why I want to try it and I have no interest in [TS]

00:43:53   trying Android four-point anything on any phone because I know that I don't [TS]

00:43:57   like it I know I've used it I've spent enough time with 204 devices I know I [TS]

00:44:01   don't like the design so it has to be 5.0 which which phone check and it's [TS]

00:44:07   there's no clear like this is the best one to get yeah yeah more or less it [TS]

00:44:12   comes down to the two most popular answers were the Nexus 5 which is the [TS]

00:44:16   year old Nexus phone and the Moto X Moto X is more expensive cost me 500 bucks [TS]

00:44:24   each sino HTC now because it hates PCs and made which did get some votes and [TS]

00:44:32   most of the people who voted for it said it's easily the best build quality of [TS]

00:44:38   any Android phone but all HTC has promised for the image is that it'll get [TS]

00:44:43   lollipop within the next 90 days which probably means 89 days [TS]

00:44:49   yeah I've talked about my Nexus 7 on the show before and it's it's the original [TS]

00:44:58   one and so the other day because lollipop just came out well maybe I can [TS]

00:45:04   see if I can get a lollipop on that device because it wasn't included in the [TS]

00:45:10   in the beta program originally was traded back in the summer and it was not [TS]

00:45:15   one of the devices that you could install the early release on and and and [TS]

00:45:21   still there is no release for that device and how old is that which was [TS]

00:45:25   very confusing so that's where that came out two years ago [TS]

00:45:31   two and a half years ago because it came out the summer before the many and it's [TS]

00:45:44   just it's just a little odd to me that lollipop is quote out but it's not they [TS]

00:45:49   haven't created an apparently they're going to create a build for it but they [TS]

00:45:52   haven't done no good at stuff like that let's you know it's from Google to [TS]

00:45:58   Google [TS]

00:46:00   cool device they're not that I my broad impression Google overall I was talking [TS]

00:46:10   about this the other day but that it's like one of those outages and I know [TS]

00:46:16   it's you know it's obviously not mathematically true but you know the [TS]

00:46:21   first ninety percent of the effort takes have your time and the other 10% takes [TS]

00:46:27   the other 90% of your time [TS]

00:46:28   yeah it's that last 10% always is is not really 10% to really more like half [TS]

00:46:36   of anything any big project and Google is really bad going into that you know [TS]

00:46:44   and to me that like that like the hard part and for all the grapes people have [TS]

00:46:48   about you know like iowa new versions of iOS running poorly on the oldest [TS]

00:46:54   supported phones tab or iPad at least they do run and it's a lot more effort [TS]

00:47:01   to make that happen then I think people give it credit for [TS]

00:47:05   yeah and you know Google just punch on all that usually I mean I'd see or [TS]

00:47:10   Android pretty much every day every year like they've never really had a really [TS]

00:47:15   good sport even for their Nexus devices more than a year old [TS]

00:47:19   yeah because it's hard it's really really hard and they just don't even try [TS]

00:47:25   but the consensus seems to be that if I want the best like the state of the art [TS]

00:47:31   and great experience today [TS]

00:47:33   get a Moto X the new moto acts as they kept the name is Amy routier it's [TS]

00:47:41   interesting and everybody seems to agree with it to the consensus is that the [TS]

00:47:47   best build quality too good keynote competitive camera and Motorola's [TS]

00:47:56   extension it's not just a pure you know like the way that the Nexus has the pure [TS]

00:48:01   Google Android experience like Android 5.0 with nothing you know unadulterated [TS]

00:48:06   moto axes version is pretty close to stock and the only thing they really do [TS]

00:48:14   is they had their own applications says system apps he can't delete but they [TS]

00:48:18   don't change the system itself you know like the notification center looks like [TS]

00:48:23   the pure Android notification center you know stuff yeah it's a lot more it's [TS]

00:48:29   it's really really close to stock Android with a few Motorola sprinkles as [TS]

00:48:34   opposed to the HTC and [TS]

00:48:36   and Samsung Wave sort of getting in at the system level and I would love to [TS]

00:48:42   treasure me I would too I don't know how you can get your hands on either from [TS]

00:48:49   what I've read I suspect that while it would be fun to use its probably crappy [TS]

00:48:54   enough that you would want to blow a couple hundred bucks on it because you [TS]

00:48:57   know what I love to see what the users p.m. what the what the software's like [TS]

00:49:02   substantially different from the looks of it yet very very custom yeah I don't [TS]

00:49:13   know what's going to having people keep talking about all accounts because jimmy [TS]

00:49:16   is going worldwide now and I don't know what's gonna happen if they come the [TS]

00:49:21   United States I don't think yeah I don't think they ever will come to any I don't [TS]

00:49:27   think they're ever going to come to a country with strong IP o's rain I really [TS]

00:49:31   done they're gonna stick I think they can they can grow they have a lot of [TS]

00:49:36   room to grow just staying in Asian countries where there is the way that [TS]

00:49:42   they operate in a way that they so shamelessly copied stuff that I just [TS]

00:49:45   don't see how they're gonna just don't see how they could do it [TS]

00:49:50   yeah I wouldn't think that I will be there five minutes before they get [TS]

00:49:55   slapped with a suit well and let's come back when we come back let's talk about [TS]

00:50:04   your thing before about the Apple do with the iPhone next year [TS]

00:50:09   ok so remember that but I'll take a break here [TS]

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00:50:39   shave your face and then for the rest of the month you just grow out your [TS]

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00:52:08   that's the main way that they can offer [TS]

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00:52:46   only ever used the shave cream I like that stuff but shaver you'd like the [TS]

00:52:51   foaming I'm currently I'm actually yeah when I used to do the straight razor [TS]

00:52:55   blade the foaming stuff so I don't like the phone I can they can't see I can't [TS]

00:53:01   see what's going on but if you like the foaming stuff they've got that now too [TS]

00:53:04   with their shape just so you get to pick what you want I just think feels good on [TS]

00:53:08   your face I think it's whatever had to adjust my dad always used the foamy [TS]

00:53:15   stuff so I don't like the regular shape cream that doesn't really foam up but [TS]

00:53:21   anyway you get your pic and they also just released a new aftershave [TS]

00:53:25   moisturizer they sent me some of that and I asked for but I guess cuz they [TS]

00:53:30   sponsor the show they sent me some smells really good I get really high [TS]

00:53:34   quality stuff all of their stuff comes in the most amazing packaging before [TS]

00:53:39   it's like the type of packaging background me doesn't want to throw away [TS]

00:53:42   and then I start thinking myself when I don't you know you're gonna be on [TS]

00:53:45   hoarders show because you're crazy in the box you're keeping that cardboard [TS]

00:53:51   box a razor blade came in because you like the fonts [TS]

00:53:55   seriously I have to like I have to do a double take and then I go to throw it in [TS]

00:54:00   the trash can and it's like a king [TS]

00:54:02   all right now but it's real a target the packaging is really great stuff if you [TS]

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00:54:47   them out at Harry's dot com never been shaving my head for like a year and a [TS]

00:54:53   half now yeah I never shaved it with a blade have always used an electric but I [TS]

00:55:01   should try it was a really nice clean cut some people do it do it right but [TS]

00:55:15   you can't see I don't know how to do it I have enough time to shave my face when [TS]

00:55:31   I can look at is as hard now so next year's iPhones I had a lot of people [TS]

00:55:36   talking about this is what we're gonna do with the four in size [TS]

00:55:42   thinking yeah because I see a lot of a lot of people have been publishing their [TS]

00:55:48   whatever like months months with the iPhone 6 plus or minus with the iPhone 6 [TS]

00:55:53   every since early like him I like the device [TS]

00:55:57   well enough about a six and but but I mostly what was that like about it is [TS]

00:56:03   the extra features as opposed to the larger screen if I could I would [TS]

00:56:08   actually go back to the Florange I would too I in fact I did it for two weeks I [TS]

00:56:14   went back just to see you know what I thought I actually took my sim card out [TS]

00:56:18   and went back to my 5s for 24 weeks and really liked it but ultimately went back [TS]

00:56:27   to the six because I can definitely tell I can absolutely Pepsi challenge the [TS]

00:56:33   superior photos especially indoors possible that outdoors in sunlight I [TS]

00:56:39   couldn't Pepsi challenge the photos but indoors I can definitely do it so much [TS]

00:56:44   less noise and brighter writer exposures and really low light on the sex that [TS]

00:56:53   it's that alone almost makes it seals the deal I also can tell and this is [TS]

00:57:00   something I didn't like when I wrote my review of it that I didn't notice and [TS]

00:57:03   it's a sort of thing that it why I wish that I could always take six weeks to [TS]

00:57:07   rate these reviews like a used to before I got the review unit as opposed to [TS]

00:57:11   doing it in like one week but I can the first week with it the two new phones I [TS]

00:57:15   noticed that the screens are nice but I didn't notice that they were actually [TS]

00:57:18   nicer than the 5s like ya later and there's that whole that the big thing I [TS]

00:57:26   was obsessed with the first week was the increase in pixels per inch on the six [TS]

00:57:30   place that they went to this 1920 by 1080 resolution runs it three acts right [TS]

00:57:40   now but on the fly they scale it down to like this weird 2.7 X scaling factor and [TS]

00:57:47   I spent the whole week like you know take my glasses on taking them off [TS]

00:57:51   squinting real close trying to see if I could see you know the scaling and AM [TS]

00:57:56   excited and it really the six plus really does look nicer to me like you [TS]

00:57:59   get really close to it and text looks better because there's more pixels per [TS]

00:58:03   inch even though they're scaling and it's not true three acts it really does [TS]

00:58:06   look better than two acts and the regular 6 has the same 326 pixels per [TS]

00:58:12   inch as the five ass i didnt notice in the first week with the phone cuz I was [TS]

00:58:16   obsessed with just the pixels per inch and their six had the same pixels per [TS]

00:58:19   inch for the 5s and I didn't really bother looking at it too much but now lo [TS]

00:58:23   these almost what two months later and with me having gone back to the 5s for [TS]

00:58:29   two weeks and now back to the sex I can really noticed that the six you know the [TS]

00:58:36   fact that had the same pixels per inch side is so much as a really nice [TS]

00:58:39   improvement to the screen and it and know that they talked about the fact [TS]

00:58:43   that they added a polarizing filter or a new polarizing filter so it looks better [TS]

00:58:47   with polarized sunglasses but I think something to do with that [TS]

00:58:52   also the screen is even closer to the glass than before it's even know that I [TS]

00:58:59   raved about it endlessly when they first went right now with the iPhone 4 that it [TS]

00:59:04   really looked like the the pixels are closer to the glass but now it's so much [TS]

00:59:08   closer to that it makes like my iPhone 5 look like the screen is too far behind [TS]

00:59:12   the glass and it even makes all of my iPad everything I look at other phone [TS]

00:59:17   look like the pixels are 22 [TS]

00:59:18   glass and that's really nice but bottom line is it's all about the field in my [TS]

00:59:25   hand and I like the four-inch feel in my hand I do I use my phone so much of the [TS]

00:59:30   time they use my phone I really only have one hand rates it's just a [TS]

00:59:36   humongous issue I can I can't bring myself to get into region bility to use [TS]

00:59:42   reach ability you know even though my complaint is about not being able to [TS]

00:59:47   reach staff at the top with my grip it never occurs to me [TS]

00:59:52   gently Palma right and I have no there's no support at the bottom and I'm [TS]

00:59:58   reaching across the phone to get to the corner doing it right now which is where [TS]

01:00:03   my mouth is turning away from the microphone but and then just i know im [TS]

01:00:06   gonna drop it at some point because it's not a secure hold but reach ability to [TS]

01:00:12   get there but it doesn't often doesn't fire for me on the first try and so then [TS]

01:00:20   I'm doing this extra thing that he didn't used to have to do and sometimes [TS]

01:00:24   it's not working and it's not it's not solving the problem for me [TS]

01:00:31   definitely I just never occurred to me to use it it's it's part of what I love [TS]

01:00:37   about iOS is even more than Mac OS 10 to me the system makes such a coherent [TS]

01:00:45   sense the design of the way that you go in and out about and navigate within and [TS]

01:00:50   it's like I'm in just whenever I'm using my iPhone I'm just in a certain mental [TS]

01:00:55   zone and it using reach ability takes me out of that you know because it's not on [TS]

01:01:00   screen like part of what to me the magic of iOS is that everything is on the [TS]

01:01:08   screen [TS]

01:01:08   anything you can do something you can see on the screen and that's a profound [TS]

01:01:15   decrease in abstraction like that's why I think that the like the hardware back [TS]

01:01:27   button that Android use even though they draw it on screen now on most phones [TS]

01:01:31   but the fact that it outside the rules of the system it just never occurs to me [TS]

01:01:37   and I find it hard to remember that that's you know that the only thing you [TS]

01:01:44   ever have to do an IRS that's that's hardware related is hit the home button [TS]

01:01:49   software allows you know and then there's things like volume but their [TS]

01:01:53   value makes sense that hardware because it's it's not the software you're [TS]

01:01:57   manipulating its what they actually make sense it's hard workers it's the device [TS]

01:02:00   that emits the sound and using readability just takes me outside that [TS]

01:02:06   it feels like it's not on the screen [TS]

01:02:10   you know if if if somehow I could just swipe my thumb down and the phone would [TS]

01:02:16   magically know that I'm swiping down to read something I'd probably use it all [TS]

01:02:19   the time but there is of course no way the phone could read your mind know that [TS]

01:02:23   you're sweating reachability as opposed to yeah you know if it could go read [TS]

01:02:31   your mind in theory I mean I know that I'm just saying I would use it all the [TS]

01:02:36   time I would I would just drag the screen down in you know that the hit the [TS]

01:02:40   back button but it's a big issue for me I also really really don't like the size [TS]

01:02:46   of it in my jeans and I keep sexually I really don't notice the difference there [TS]

01:02:52   I definitely do I think part of it too is that when I read my review in [TS]

01:02:56   September I was still somewhat shorts weather I might have spent more time [TS]

01:03:00   with shorts I don't know but that's why I keep I keep targeting the mute switch [TS]

01:03:07   as I take it in and out of my jeans I also I just don't like it I even like [TS]

01:03:15   the flat side of the iPhone 5s I kinda like that but I also kinda like the new [TS]

01:03:21   12 I mean I love the feel like the Smithfield to check that one up to [TS]

01:03:26   a wash because if there were in the area 4.05% 6 that had this shape I wouldn't [TS]

01:03:36   be complaining yeah I wouldn't either but I do think my thing is that I [TS]

01:03:41   noticed after switching back to the 5s for two weeks that it the flat sides [TS]

01:03:46   make for a nicer iPhone as camera to take a picture it feels more natural in [TS]

01:03:54   my hands to have my fingers pinching flat side but I'll call it a wash it [TS]

01:04:00   overall though how easy it is to reach everything with holding the phone in one [TS]

01:04:03   hand and how big it is in my pocket and it sometimes it seems like so so [TS]

01:04:09   our friend never morgan's game came out last night [TS]

01:04:12   space age and downloaded that and you know it's nice having a larger screen [TS]

01:04:20   play game but I don't think to me it's not enough it's not know I have a night [TS]

01:04:27   at it it's not nice enough on the phone to make the difference for me no [TS]

01:04:33   question when you're using it it's you know there are certainly reasons to to [TS]

01:04:37   prefer bigger screen i mean i i i watch most most of the day in the summer when [TS]

01:04:42   baseball seasons in and i watch seriously i watch you know I don't know [TS]

01:04:46   over a hundred yankee games a year the ones I don't watch on TV I usually watch [TS]

01:04:50   on my iPad but I wound up just for convenience sake sometimes watching them [TS]

01:04:55   on my phone and obviously watching something that's the equivalent of TV [TS]

01:04:59   like a ballgame the bigger the screen the better you know even the six places [TS]

01:05:02   better you know but that's to me isn't important enough to optimize which phone [TS]

01:05:08   i get if there were a 4.0 inch iPhone 6 3rd size zero hesitation a hundred [TS]

01:05:16   percent certainty that's the one I would have bought yeah well I think I mean at [TS]

01:05:21   this point I wanted to try it [TS]

01:05:22   try to bigger size and see if I liked it better but I've come to the conclusion [TS]

01:05:26   that they don't it's not even if it is your decision than almost any other in [TS]

01:05:33   the Apple product line no hesitation I think the iPhone 6 is I don't and I [TS]

01:05:38   here's the big here's the thing that I think its loss in this is that people [TS]

01:05:41   who'd love big phones and I know that they'd really do there are people who [TS]

01:05:47   love the five to six plus you know for whatever reason they seemed to as a [TS]

01:05:55   group to lump them all together they seem to think just unilaterally big [TS]

01:06:01   phones are better and you know now that now that the iPhone has bigger screens [TS]

01:06:05   iPhone users will see what they've been missing out on some years [TS]

01:06:08   everybody will see it and we'll get to appreciate it I don't doubt that the [TS]

01:06:13   right but I do I really do think though that there are you know I'm certain now [TS]

01:06:18   having used it for this but having gone back that you know it's the scale of [TS]

01:06:23   form factors that people want in phones definitely goes beneath four point seven [TS]

01:06:31   inches for you know my my my short version is not that the iPhone 6 is too [TS]

01:06:37   big it's that it's too big to be the smallest iPhone did I not that I'm [TS]

01:06:45   doubting that there are some people who loved the size and that it's perfect for [TS]

01:06:48   them so what are they gonna do next year [TS]

01:06:51   yeah I don't know if they don't update the that the four inch form factor [TS]

01:07:01   though what I hope they do is is expand the top of the line you know which would [TS]

01:07:09   be next year I would expect in a nine system-on-a-chip and you know and even [TS]

01:07:15   better camera I would say well I hope they do is expand to three sizes in a [TS]

01:07:21   day or whatever they call it you know if it's may I don't know if they're going [TS]

01:07:26   to stick with this thing where they seems you know if next year's 4.7 inch [TS]

01:07:32   is the exact same physical sizes and they call it the success and they called [TS]

01:07:36   the other one the success + and they fit the same cases and maybe they just [TS]

01:07:41   update the colors of them at all to show that the new ones and introduce I don't [TS]

01:07:47   know I found six air call it the iPhone 6 share and make it the orange size [TS]

01:07:55   with like I said what I would hope for is they would have their own and the new [TS]

01:08:00   camera and all that but oh well I think I'll have a bullpen matter what what i [TS]

01:08:07   think is more likely is that they would make it do it's sort of like they did [TS]

01:08:13   the five-seat two years ago and that the for it this is what I think is more [TS]

01:08:18   likely that the foreign size there will be a new phone but it'll be like the [TS]

01:08:24   five-seat might be even be plastic and would have the internal specs of these [TS]

01:08:33   phones this a a 8049 [TS]

01:08:40   and the camera from this phone and it would be $100 lower starting price than [TS]

01:08:47   the success yeah that sounds more likely to me I think it's way more likely [TS]

01:08:51   because I think they have to they can't prices they can't make yeah I think you [TS]

01:08:57   know the screen size alone isn't enough for up to $100 difference right you know [TS]

01:09:03   that it would be eating into their profit margins too much you know that [TS]

01:09:09   you know they can't justify it wouldn't cost $100 less to do it so I think it'd [TS]

01:09:14   be more likely that it would be like the six see the iPhone 6 see and it would be [TS]

01:09:20   four inches but it would be a year behind on the specs to me the plastic [TS]

01:09:24   seems to belong at the bottom line no because what happens then I mean you [TS]

01:09:27   can't you can't then take the 5s and move it down to the free model and have [TS]

01:09:32   a plastic on the screen sizes the same that's what they did with the pipe they [TS]

01:09:40   had 24 s 125 C came out at the bottom but that was a different screen size [TS]

01:09:49   and it doesn't seem like they can push down i mean maybe they could just make a [TS]

01:09:53   new 25 C so then the bottom two would be both plastic yeah something like that I [TS]

01:10:03   don't know but that's what I worry that they're going to do and then I worry [TS]

01:10:07   that on the CPU side I would I probably would just prefer size alone and I'll [TS]

01:10:18   take the year olds CPU specs and get the small but I very much worried that the [TS]

01:10:27   camera in next year's iPhone will be so much better again than this year's that [TS]

01:10:32   yeah even though I'm so impressed this year with this camera I think next [TS]

01:10:36   year's cameras gonna be so much better that I won't be stuck getting the four [TS]

01:10:40   point seven in 2010 for the camera even I would take the aid the year old aid [TS]

01:10:45   because I don't really play a lot of games and stuff like that and it's you [TS]

01:10:49   know I don't know that that getting an improved a nine would mean that much to [TS]

01:10:53   me but the camera would I mention this a few episodes ago [TS]

01:11:02   firm thing about it but I heard a rumor of a rumor from a birdie who knows a [TS]

01:11:08   party like a distant but that number one it's it's not looking at every single [TS]

01:11:14   year the cameras gotten better on the iPhone I think except for the first [TS]

01:11:18   except for the 3G did in 2008 iPhone had the same camera as the original 2007 [TS]

01:11:26   like still didn't shoot video still was really ever since the 3ds every single [TS]

01:11:34   year the guy from camera has gotten noticeably better like enough better [TS]

01:11:38   than it was at the camera alone was tempting to be the reason that you [TS]

01:11:43   upgrade every single year [TS]

01:11:45   at least if you care about photography and it's so there's no reason to think [TS]

01:11:50   that's going to stop anyway but that the specific thing I heard is that their [TS]

01:11:53   next year's camera might be like the biggest camera jump ever that they've [TS]

01:11:58   got like really yeah that is I don't even know it since this makes but that [TS]

01:12:04   I've heard that it's it's some kind of weird to lens system like the back [TS]

01:12:07   camera uses two lenses and I don't know somehow that it takes it up and sell our [TS]

01:12:14   quality imagery I don't know that well and in some ways that and that's what [TS]

01:12:20   I've heard but it it can't really mean SLO our quality caused a lot of what [TS]

01:12:24   makes SLR or and in the digital age for Thirds cameras which are an SLR but you [TS]

01:12:31   know what it means is big center and a lot of what makes a big cameras with big [TS]

01:12:36   sensors have better imagery is is physics you know there's risks involved [TS]

01:12:42   and have to do but that there's something they could do with two lenses [TS]

01:12:48   I don't just makes the photos if not a technical level SLR quality but at a [TS]

01:12:54   practical level for consumers taking pictures you know closer to sell ours I [TS]

01:13:01   don't know but that it's a big enough jump that anybody who cares about the [TS]

01:13:04   photographer e even if you really want a foreign phone again you're gonna get the [TS]

01:13:09   4.7 yeah I feel like the last two cameras have been plenty of camera for [TS]

01:13:15   me I'm not as big a camera but as you are and for years it did seem like you [TS]

01:13:20   ok ok I'm basically taking pictures with this because it's the one that's in my [TS]

01:13:26   pocket and I don't I don't be like that anymore like it's it's practically [TS]

01:13:31   speaking caught up to almost everything that I need now is they've gotten so [TS]

01:13:36   good it's time you know and I'm a guy is you know every every couple of years not [TS]

01:13:42   every year like every couple years I'll drop $800,000 I really do care about [TS]

01:13:48   some of that stuff and I really I could just see looking at [TS]

01:13:51   my you know like my Lightroom archive that every year it's more and more or [TS]

01:13:57   less and less photos shot with anything other than the iPhone it's always it [TS]

01:14:04   just gets more and more evenly on vacation and I have the camera camera [TS]

01:14:08   camera with me and it's like an affiliate look around my neck I just [TS]

01:14:11   what I do I think I think the cameras when it's going to come down to four me [TS]

01:14:17   next year unless they do what I really really hope they do is you know but [TS]

01:14:22   three phones at the top of the would-be when I would love to but I don't think [TS]

01:14:27   they will agree but I still think I would probably like I would probably go [TS]

01:14:32   back to stick with the relatively same internals is this phone [TS]

01:14:37   four-inch screen yeah I think if the camera isn't vastly improved if it's you [TS]

01:14:44   know i i would be very tempted just to get that from I noticed two in here the [TS]

01:14:50   other anecdotal thing is like two or three weeks ago there was a little small [TS]

01:14:54   indeed a conference here in Philly coca love I don't speak out about how I went [TS]

01:15:01   to it and you know [TS]

01:15:02   hundred and fifty yards while Estevan you know some friends marco was here [TS]

01:15:10   Dave Dave Wilkinson [TS]

01:15:12   here but I mean I met a lot of new people to really get out much so even [TS]

01:15:17   though the leaving the local people a lot of them are new to me and people [TS]

01:15:23   notice it was that was occurred during that two-week stretch where I went back [TS]

01:15:27   to my 5s and a lot of people noticed that I was using a 5s and specific they [TS]

01:15:31   asked and every almost every single person who I talk to about it was like [TS]

01:15:37   nodding their head in agreement that i've you know and they have a lot of [TS]

01:15:41   there are people who had this 626 + and all we're thinking the same thing that I [TS]

01:15:47   love so much about this newfound except that it's bigger yeah [TS]

01:15:52   so there's definitely and it's not just you and I are not outliers like we may [TS]

01:15:56   not be the majority like the the split across the product line may not be [TS]

01:16:02   one-third one-third one-third of they did this but I think that it's I think [TS]

01:16:06   it's may be close to at least a quarter of people would prefer the foreign size [TS]

01:16:09   yeah I think so too I mean I talk to me it seems like most of the people that [TS]

01:16:14   are too [TS]

01:16:15   actually yes I got a friend who who has signed up in size pants and so he got [TS]

01:16:23   his six-plus and he feels like he's home is even though he had a for which was [TS]

01:16:27   waiting you know thinking they're going to make a new they're gonna make one [TS]

01:16:31   it's better to wait for that and so we got six plus when I came out it's [TS]

01:16:37   perfect for him but our neighbor of the street was talking before the phone [TS]

01:16:43   these phones came out she said she said it's gonna be bigger only like I'm [TS]

01:16:48   getting my mom is on the 3ds keep saying when you get a new phone you need to get [TS]

01:16:57   a new phone software updates anymore and and then it was like ok well if I can [TS]

01:17:03   get a huge phone so I guess you should get the five pass and my wife same [TS]

01:17:14   things like that but the phone is so all the people I know who were in the market [TS]

01:17:21   right now are not terribly excited about the larger form factor I you know and I [TS]

01:17:28   think it's I think it's a complicated product marketing problem you know where [TS]

01:17:35   I think part of it clearly there are people out of sight I mean I know this [TS]

01:17:41   that there are people who love like your big handed friend who love the six plus [TS]

01:17:45   and I know that there are people with tiny hands who love the six plus you [TS]

01:17:49   know there are human and I know you know talking Ben Thompson huge every every [TS]

01:17:54   woman in Asia yeah [TS]

01:17:56   has a big dyke phablet size six inch phone and they were all all of them [TS]

01:18:02   wanted an iPhone we're all waiting for the six plus and and you know it's [TS]

01:18:06   almost like for some of the people who like to women with really small and that [TS]

01:18:10   they couldn't use the iPhone for one-handed either so the whole [TS]

01:18:12   one-handed thing wasn't an issue anyway so you might as well get a bit so I know [TS]

01:18:16   that it's not just an issue not just appealing to people with large hands [TS]

01:18:20   it's you know it's across the board [TS]

01:18:22   some people just use their phone to handle all the time if so why not get [TS]

01:18:27   the biggest one but it's not just nerdy others I just me like Amy who uses her [TS]

01:18:34   iPhone very differently from me she's nowhere near she's not on anywhere near [TS]

01:18:38   as much as I am but she she doesn't like the six eyes either she thinks it's [TS]

01:18:43   ridiculous she really can't believe that there's a bigger size it's pretty [TS]

01:18:50   astounding yeah well it you know it's funny it's funny cuz I even had one as a [TS]

01:19:00   review unit and they use it for a week but at the colo conference you know and [TS]

01:19:05   everybody had i phone every item out of the time and there were people of course [TS]

01:19:08   not just the people who you know who are not in agreement with me that the six is [TS]

01:19:12   too big but there are of course other people who had the six plus you see them [TS]

01:19:15   with it [TS]

01:19:16   wow yeah yeah I gotta get my 44 sitting here just feels really good I do I love [TS]

01:19:30   just a few like a phone to me now have a good feel like 2525 s bottom of the 5s [TS]

01:19:37   is at this point peak iPhone that it's actually to me I brought the overall [TS]

01:19:42   best iPhone ever made to me is a great just 25 was was the forms back trouble [TS]

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01:23:15   if you haven't done it yet this is the one sponsor above all others that I I [TS]

01:23:19   almost wish that they would stop sponsoring because everybody who listens [TS]

01:23:22   to the show with just sign up for it and but apparently every time they wanted to [TS]

01:23:26   show more and more people sign up but I don't know who you are who haven't [TS]

01:23:29   signed up yet but do it because I don't want to lose your data can't recommend [TS]

01:23:34   them enough what else is going on in your book your book we were talking [TS]

01:23:46   about you are saying about having to use word yeah that's what i was gonna ask [TS]

01:23:51   about that here so here's the deal you have you ever read the book before know [TS]

01:23:56   so you've written your first book we're part of my first base co-authored and [TS]

01:24:03   two other final Thurs James Clark and Corey dustman and we have written the [TS]

01:24:10   visual guide to to mine craft's for peach pit press our good friends at [TS]

01:24:15   Peachpit press and it's getting started book for four people who were interested [TS]

01:24:23   in getting into Minecraft or interested in learning more about some things like [TS]

01:24:28   how to build houses how to use redstone redstone is really an amazing things you [TS]

01:24:35   haven't gotten into red zone and in my craft and there's a good section on how [TS]

01:24:40   to use redstone you're laughing because he died laughing cuz I don't know what I [TS]

01:24:43   think I think redstone is the stuff that joan is called me over one day and he [TS]

01:24:48   said here watch this and the had a thing and he pulled a lever and then a fuse [TS]

01:24:54   left led off and confused burned and then he had like a fireworks show [TS]

01:24:58   ready to go he was probably there's probably some red Sony anything using a [TS]

01:25:03   lever is probably done anything great the cool thing about it is it it kind of [TS]

01:25:08   teaches kids teaches it's like it's almost like programming because their [TS]

01:25:14   gates so you can set up a series of different gates and by using these kids [TS]

01:25:18   you're basically using its basically the same fundamental theory that is inside [TS]

01:25:25   every computer logic [TS]

01:25:27   you know and you know one day came came to me was like I saw this thing on as [TS]

01:25:37   usual and YouTube and somebody made a an elevator in Minecraft using red zone is [TS]

01:25:44   like I want to make this thing but I can't figure out which is mostly YouTube [TS]

01:25:49   videos are created by a lot of them are worried about fourteen year olds or you [TS]

01:25:56   know people who don't necessarily have the best video production skills and and [TS]

01:26:02   presentation skills and this guy was better than most but he also got halfway [TS]

01:26:07   through something up in just likes to try to correct it on the fly so it was [TS]

01:26:13   pretty aggravating for me having to put this but we got through it we got it [TS]

01:26:17   done and some of that stuff is in the book my section is the guy got the [TS]

01:26:23   beginning section which is how to basic game installation and using the [TS]

01:26:29   interface and then also surviving surviving your first day which if your [TS]

01:26:35   first for me it was like the the hard part getting into the game was like ok [TS]

01:26:40   you just get dropped in this world and there are no instructions really [TS]

01:26:42   whatsoever and it's what am I supposed to do around here what what's Mike with [TS]

01:26:49   my goal here so I talked about that and then do some basic introduction and like [TS]

01:26:55   and how to setup a server that section and how to install mods [TS]

01:27:00   your section is also available as its own stand-alone book yeah all of the [TS]

01:27:04   section of them are so you know if you go so you can go to be present a common [TS]

01:27:10   looking like a visual guide to Minecraft and you can get any other sections [TS]

01:27:16   separately as e-books get the book and we're also doing some video stuff that [TS]

01:27:23   goes along with that so you buy the books you'll get access to that once [TS]

01:27:28   it's available via so that's why you bad mouth the 14 year olds who make the [TS]

01:27:34   you're saying you're saying that the video that accompanied the visual guide [TS]

01:27:39   to Minecraft are they don't get halfway through and realized that they hadn't [TS]

01:27:44   set up the right yeah that's right that's right in fact they made me do [TS]

01:27:48   over some they did a good sign which was so we talked about like computer [TS]

01:27:57   performance gaming performance on laptops and so I have my regular machine [TS]

01:28:03   is a 2012 managed care with four megabytes of RAM megabytes EF four [TS]

01:28:12   megabytes of RAM especially around it's a 1991 little things that you get doc [TS]

01:28:22   into the hell yeah anyway and I had done some screen capture stuff before [TS]

01:28:32   ok that's a problem but when you're but it's one thing to do a screen capture [TS]

01:28:36   stuff of just like web browsing or moving files around in the Finder when [TS]

01:28:41   you're playing a game and you're also running screen capture you know like a [TS]

01:28:44   fairly processor intensive games like Minecraft and also trying to run screen [TS]

01:28:48   capture software it's a problem so the fan was going [TS]

01:28:53   things are slowing down it and it was it was not working right so I actually had [TS]

01:28:57   to get banks MacBook Pro has eight gigs of ram and that was the most powerful [TS]

01:29:04   the most RAM that we had in the house I had to borrow hangs thanks MacBook Pro [TS]

01:29:09   to actually do the video production for the same how did you get started on this [TS]

01:29:16   like how did who who is a dummy like me who's been blabbering on the show for [TS]

01:29:24   months now about being not understand what the hell minecraft is this is why I [TS]

01:29:27   just started the book I got it last night but it seems to me like at the [TS]

01:29:31   very least it's going to answer the basic question of what the hell's going [TS]

01:29:33   on right which is really what I want so I cannot tell you how happy I am [TS]

01:29:38   this book I i honestly I like the the book of the year for me because i it it [TS]

01:29:46   is a major part of my life this game because you know I love my son and I'm [TS]

01:29:52   really errant yeah and I'm really it's like the first time he's really gotten [TS]

01:29:56   into something computer [TS]

01:29:56   into something computer [TS]

01:30:00   he's more into Minecraft anything else is everybody and I want to be a part of [TS]

01:30:04   that and I almost feel like I feel like I'm the dad who never played sports in [TS]

01:30:09   my kid wants to play baseball and now you're telling me that you gotta run [TS]

01:30:12   around these baby I don't even understand you know that's how I feel [TS]

01:30:15   about Minecraft yeah yeah like the dad who grew up in England and therefore [TS]

01:30:20   never never heard of baseball you know and now I live in the united states and [TS]

01:30:23   like it wants to rain [TS]

01:30:25   yes I did you how did you get involved at this so he admits he says he's got a [TS]

01:30:29   buddy who got him into Minecraft you know just like a microchip in my car so [TS]

01:30:34   so he starred play minecraft like couple of years ago now I think and you know [TS]

01:30:40   and I same thing I just like watched it from afar and then thought they should [TS]

01:30:45   you know he was looking for someone else to play with and so it's ok I'll start [TS]

01:30:48   playing but then I had that you know that reaction like that first like I [TS]

01:30:51   don't know what the heck I'm doing so actually watched a YouTube video that [TS]

01:30:55   said here's what you should try and do on your first day and and then it we [TS]

01:31:02   played it for you played it for at least a few months I played it for a year and [TS]

01:31:07   a half or something like that and last spring I wrote that article for the [TS]

01:31:14   magazine about right during the base of the moguls of Minecraft YouTube world [TS]

01:31:21   about a guy stampede diamond mine cart and other people who were making [TS]

01:31:29   ridiculous amounts of money doing these videos is let's play videos of Minecraft [TS]

01:31:34   on YouTube [TS]

01:31:36   trying to get to the edge of the universe I don't know I remember the [TS]

01:31:39   guys name but yeah just like there's just there's so many people who are [TS]

01:31:45   making minecraft some of these guys make make very good money doing it and just [TS]

01:31:52   from the YouTube just from the Utah [TS]

01:31:56   disorder guide stampede [TS]

01:32:00   members named after my head just just a carrot [TS]

01:32:03   he Financial Times was trying to figure out how much he made and they estimated [TS]

01:32:11   it grosses between 80,000 and eight hundred thousand dollars a month during [TS]

01:32:18   these videos and Google takes the kind of attitude like 45 percent and then his [TS]

01:32:26   network that he works with the does promotion for him takes account of that [TS]

01:32:31   so he's not he's not letting that but still but his operation as an operation [TS]

01:32:36   between thirty thousand three hundred thousand dollars a month [TS]

01:32:40   Google takes up much importantly I guess I can something like that I mean range [TS]

01:32:50   30% seems like the gentleman's cap [TS]

01:32:53   like you know me like everybody can complain that Apple takes 30% and I know [TS]

01:32:59   amazon has some things are they take thirty seems like 30 percent is the [TS]

01:33:02   gentleman's cap for slicing off a top of every dollar that comes through your [TS]

01:33:09   corporate thing anything more than that seems a little yeah but anyway so cliff [TS]

01:33:17   colby who is a guy who works at [TS]

01:33:20   and I have known him for years and we talked two years ago when I was writing [TS]

01:33:25   crazy rumors we talked about doing a book but I could never get my act [TS]

01:33:28   together and can figure out what the heck to rate and so who saw that article [TS]

01:33:32   he's like hey you know I think we should do in Minecraft book and get some other [TS]

01:33:37   people to do some different sections and be relatively easy to put together so [TS]

01:33:42   let's do it so he's the one we talked to WWDC when I was down there [TS]

01:33:48   Francisco which is where there were people is based hands basically wrote it [TS]

01:33:56   over the summer and into the fall and the video production how big how big is [TS]

01:34:02   your section I think my sections about forty plus pages forty to fifty pages [TS]

01:34:10   something like that so it's not not huge no no it's not huge [TS]

01:34:16   but it takes time so it's an interesting it's an interesting process and all of [TS]

01:34:20   it you know all of it in Word was not i wud that's one of many more men are used [TS]

01:34:28   to be ok but they do these people book production companies they they really [TS]

01:34:35   know all in all not just well we need we just need to agree on a file format that [TS]

01:34:43   we all can read it's because they're change tracking yeah it's mostly I think [TS]

01:34:48   the promise the biggest thing is the train change tracking and then after [TS]

01:34:52   that its formatting stuff I don't because they have all these so they have [TS]

01:34:57   alter their templates built into Word already so they provided me a template [TS]

01:35:04   and I typed into the template and then you know I would use they had macros [TS]

01:35:11   that would do [TS]

01:35:12   formatting stuff so yeah it's a part serious but I'm curious because I am a [TS]

01:35:21   writer I have written a lot I think I did a word count exported everything [TS]

01:35:29   from during fireball before xoxo I didn't actually include this in my talk [TS]

01:35:33   but caused by talking xoxo was about what it's like to have written during [TS]

01:35:36   fireball you know how I built it into a business and 12 years or whatever but I [TS]

01:35:42   was curious cuz Jim could I asked me a couple months ago how much have you [TS]

01:35:46   written by never counted before so I wrote a script exported everything from [TS]

01:35:50   the linked list and from my articles and I wrote a script that cut out all of the [TS]

01:35:55   block quoted material so the blockquote didn't count and it was remarkably even [TS]

01:36:01   there was a little bit over nine hundred thousand words for both linked list [TS]

01:36:05   entries in my column entries [TS]

01:36:09   so it's you know close to looks like maybe like within the next year I'll [TS]

01:36:14   crossed like the two million words sounds like a lot of words that's a lot [TS]

01:36:19   of that is a lot of words it really does its own sounds like about it right and [TS]

01:36:26   the basic I i've Google this many times but the books obviously very great with [TS]

01:36:31   greatly in length but like the typical length of the book is somewhere around [TS]

01:36:35   like sixty to eighty thousand words you know or something like that so it's you [TS]

01:36:42   know like the equivalent of a lot of bucks but but I've never written I've [TS]

01:36:47   never written anything in my life that's more than maybe four thousand words and [TS]

01:36:51   I don't know that I can I call you when I was younger I used to think eventually [TS]

01:36:55   you have to write a book that's if you want to be a writer you gotta gotta read [TS]

01:37:00   a book but you know I don't know I'm getting pretty old and I haven't written [TS]

01:37:04   it's really just a min particularly for something like this it's it's just them [TS]

01:37:09   it's like you're writing a series of articles I wrote a different number of [TS]

01:37:15   different sections different topics and so each one was its own little thing I [TS]

01:37:21   also think that I don't want to be too much like the princess and the pea but I [TS]

01:37:25   don't know that I could bring myself to working with word a real estate and that [TS]

01:37:32   sounds so my struggles with my hardware of the video production part which is [TS]

01:37:36   really just my own fault the the word partisan I you know I'm so picky about [TS]

01:37:43   what I write that I invented a thing that people use I invented markdown [TS]

01:37:47   specifically because I wasn't happy with what happened before that can imagine [TS]

01:37:51   writing anything long form not marked it seems like writing and mark down then [TS]

01:37:56   going into moving in the world would be such a huge pain in the ass [TS]

01:38:01   it is I tried that at first because once you do it right and it doesn't work [TS]

01:38:05   because once you have to make edits you can't go back [TS]

01:38:13   that's actually you know [TS]

01:38:14   to go back 10 years because I think I think this fall is the 10 year [TS]

01:38:20   anniversary of markdown 1.0 but the public beta came out in February so [TS]

01:38:25   we're past 10 years of public marked down but before markdown was marked down [TS]

01:38:31   it was it was a series of filters I had in BBEdit that we're like one way like I [TS]

01:38:42   would start by writing marked down like a very prototypical early version of [TS]

01:38:46   mark down that was mostly just like automatically putting paragraph tags in [TS]

01:38:50   between blank lines and tell you know asterisks Retalix and some kind of [TS]

01:38:57   shorthand for links so I would write that way and then I would run my name [TS]

01:39:03   for it but I would run the script and it would turn it into HTML copy and paste [TS]

01:39:08   the HTML into movable type but that grew it didn't last long because I would [TS]

01:39:15   think I was done with the article but then thought of something new I want to [TS]

01:39:20   go back but it's too late now had already need to Malin I'm stuck writing [TS]

01:39:24   HTML which is the whole reason I started writing the script in the first place to [TS]

01:39:27   let me use asterisks and stuff like that and even worse and worse to do it with [TS]

01:39:33   something that's rich text like yeah where'd ya and I know their pricing [TS]

01:39:39   there is there some tools out there trying to help you with that process but [TS]

01:39:42   yeah I gave up and when I had actually started writing in BBEdit with mark down [TS]

01:39:51   and then when I got to the point where I went I went to move the first section [TS]

01:39:56   into work I was like ok but if you write your own book you wouldn't have to use [TS]

01:40:05   right right I don't have to do you know go to someone like Peter patent use [TS]

01:40:10   their existing process I mean I'm sure that there's obviously a way that I [TS]

01:40:13   could I get to self-publish my own book at this point [TS]

01:40:15   I can do pretty well but I mean I would be surprised if David sparks actually [TS]

01:40:18   written word yeah I should talk to it would actually almost be hypocritical [TS]

01:40:28   since he's you know he's written a really really good [TS]

01:40:32   markdown book he uses iBooks Author has recently [TS]

01:40:41   so what would be the point I should there be no point going forward I [TS]

01:40:47   wouldn't be surprised I did read his book and it's XIO David sparks Martin [TS]

01:40:51   book in this show notes but trying to bulk up the show notes I've noticed that [TS]

01:40:57   a lot of the podcast alike have these copious show notes that are you know [TS]

01:41:01   that's my value add to the soup I guess then I'm on and i i suffer from podcast [TS]

01:41:07   Tunisia Susan done recording a podcast I don't even remember what they talked [TS]

01:41:11   about all I have to listen to it again that's the only way to do it right but [TS]

01:41:18   I'll try but only to me but i wouldnt be surprised I did read his book The maybe [TS]

01:41:21   a vague recollection and maybe even included something about how he wrote [TS]

01:41:25   the book in his production you know yeah and the other person who might notice [TS]

01:41:32   serenity Caldwell she has very well versed in public I think she knows more [TS]

01:41:39   about it than anybody who's anybody knows more than serenity I'd like to [TS]

01:41:45   meet them [TS]

01:41:46   yeah I remember her her singleton talk from two years ago about the [TS]

01:41:50   nitty-gritty details of trying to write trying to create an ebook just for like [TS]

01:41:55   just for like and candles Moby and it was like oh my god what a nightmare [TS]

01:42:04   yeah it was bad back in the days of special case [TS]

01:42:09   Internet Explorer and Netscape it's like magic if one uses HTML and one doesn't [TS]

01:42:17   so anyway anyway I use word right well I've used word by my license now elapsed [TS]

01:42:28   since I'm writing I don't know that it's later I'll get the license again I don't [TS]

01:42:35   even know bird looks like these days is it is it the case that does everybody [TS]

01:42:38   Peachpit Newsmax doesn't matter is it is it is like word at a state where they [TS]

01:42:43   all use Macs I don't we were so few people that I work with the Peach Pit [TS]

01:42:49   work left who was really basically putting the deal together you know [TS]

01:42:56   bringing the people together and then we had sort of a project manager who i [TS]

01:42:58   think is actually not a peach pit employee someone that they contract with [TS]

01:43:05   so I'm pretty sure she did not use a Mac but I think class uses a Mac so I don't [TS]

01:43:14   think it's that they're probably but it's a mixed environment I think I would [TS]

01:43:19   think that most of the I don't know I don't know actually it seems like a lot [TS]

01:43:25   of this stuff must end up going to Adobe at some point rate gas I would guess [TS]

01:43:33   that the book is probably actually laid out with InDesign yeah the print book I [TS]

01:43:38   don't know it just seemed its but they are you know the other thing I mentioned [TS]

01:43:43   while we're promoting the book if you go to Peachpit to buy your book they have a [TS]

01:43:48   really sweet deal where you can get the print version [TS]

01:43:53   package of ebooks epub which works and I books mobi which work on any of your [TS]

01:44:02   candles rapper your actual Kindle device and a PDF and they're they're not like [TS]

01:44:10   DRM during like that they just put a watermark on it that you know is [TS]

01:44:13   registered to your name so that you know if you share it you would be you [TS]

01:44:17   wouldn't be tempted to share it publicly publicly shamed [TS]

01:44:20   well probably taken to prison but which is to me that the best way to do he [TS]

01:44:28   books you know I know there's other companies like O'Reilly that do that and [TS]

01:44:31   I know that our friends it take control folks you know that they days then there [TS]

01:44:37   you know their brains are all cross platform in and no DRM and stuff but [TS]

01:44:41   that's the best deal in my opinion 2159 $21.59 and you get it all in which is a [TS]

01:44:50   really good deal and just to be clear we wrap it up that when you go to go to [TS]

01:44:54   like the iBookstore and search for multi minecraft two books show up trying to [TS]

01:45:00   help you search for multi minecraft to book show up and one's more expensive [TS]

01:45:06   than the other [TS]

01:45:07   that's because the one is more expensive is the one with all three of your [TS]

01:45:10   contributions and don't buy both because your book is just the introduction [TS]

01:45:14   section of the yes my my sections the first sexual let's take a break [TS]

01:45:21   one more sponsored I think the show but I want to say thanks to our index [TS]

01:45:28   sponsor and its a good friends at a Glu Glu is an internet you'll actually like [TS]

01:45:35   that's their slogan I said to the internet you likely like I've never [TS]

01:45:38   heard of another one it's built with easy to use apps shared calendars [TS]

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01:45:48   it everything you need for a team to work together better and one very [TS]

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01:45:57   responsive design works like a champ on virtually any device any device with a [TS]

01:46:03   WebKit browser like Android iOS even the new BlackBerrys Windows found it but you [TS]

01:46:13   know the mobile Internet Explorer is really pretty good [TS]

01:46:16   responsive design on all these devices works on your new plus sized iPhone [TS]

01:46:22   right from the start because thats to me one of the little ironies of the whole [TS]

01:46:27   bigger iPhone screen thing is that well-designed responsive mobile mobile [TS]

01:46:32   apps supported the new sizes automatically then didn't have to be [TS]

01:46:36   redesigned like native apps did you can review document post project updates [TS]

01:46:42   change administrative settings you can even complain about the u2 album from [TS]

01:46:50   your phone from your phone you don't have to be at a PC and using a [TS]

01:46:54   full-screen browser all of that stuff works from your phone [TS]

01:46:59   they want me to talk about it again I mention this last time they wanted to [TS]

01:47:02   show how do I don't really know much about enterprise I've never worked in [TS]

01:47:05   the enterprise but this is a big deal this Gartner Magic Quadrant report just [TS]

01:47:11   earlier this month [TS]

01:47:12   garner release their 2014 edition of this and it's their Magic Quadrant for [TS]

01:47:17   social software in the workplace and this is a big deal with corporate [TS]

01:47:21   environments for the sixth consecutive year ago was listed alongside right [TS]

01:47:28   alongside tech giants like Microsoft IBM Google VMware Salesforce ASAP all these [TS]

01:47:35   big companies you know these big huge conglomerate type companies like [TS]

01:47:38   Salesforce ASAP right alongside them it's a little friends and a clue as [TS]

01:47:43   their their products don't write up with those guys really does so the Gartner [TS]

01:47:49   report values things like the size of the vendor partner cause that viability [TS]

01:47:53   and igloo is praised by Gartner for their responsiveness and customer [TS]

01:47:59   experience here is an excerpt right from gardeners profile they said feedback [TS]

01:48:04   from includes reference customers was consistently positive they praised the [TS]

01:48:08   products quick deployment configuration and customization flexibility with [TS]

01:48:13   self-service options for non-technical users control over branding and [TS]

01:48:18   information organization and ease of use they also praised the responsiveness of [TS]

01:48:22   a clue as an organization so more or less bottom line that's that's gardener [TS]

01:48:27   verifying and vouching for exactly what what I've been telling you about a glue [TS]

01:48:33   all along ever since it became a verifiable sponsor easy to use easy to [TS]

01:48:38   understand it easy for non-technical people to set up the person in charge of [TS]

01:48:43   the glue internet for your team doesn't have to be a web programmer doesn't to [TS]

01:48:48   be a system administrator it's just someone who can figure out a really easy [TS]

01:48:52   to use visual interface for doing this really really great product I think [TS]

01:48:58   they're growing like gangbusters because it is so much easier and it really is [TS]

01:49:02   this the sort of internet that you actually use you know all their [TS]

01:49:06   competitors the stuff like from Microsoft SharePoint all that crap [TS]

01:49:09   people you if your team uses like there's evidence that shows that what [TS]

01:49:13   people in your team really do is they don't use it may just pass everything [TS]

01:49:16   around by email you glue is an internet that your team will actually use and [TS]

01:49:21   best of all this to me is still amazing it's free to use in perpetuity with up [TS]

01:49:26   to 10 people so if you attempt person or fewer team is a free product you just [TS]

01:49:31   use it for free and then after that you can pay very very competitive price [TS]

01:49:36   producer after that so if you're small team you can use it for free in [TS]

01:49:40   perpetuity and if you're a bigger team you can start using it try using it see [TS]

01:49:44   if everything I've said is true for free and then add people after that so where [TS]

01:49:50   do you go to find out more easy going to www.quikr.com / the talk show all one [TS]

01:49:57   word include software dot com slash the talk show my thanks Dave [TS]

01:50:05   as someone who has used corporate intranets you lose is just lately I mean [TS]

01:50:12   I and I have used as well just as a as a user on my own within the corporate [TS]

01:50:16   environment but it's such a dirty word that it's really like their home [TS]

01:50:21   marketing is just based on we know you hear internet and think big pile of crap [TS]

01:50:25   we're not that that's like rewriting them argue that we know that when you [TS]

01:50:32   hear that word you think it's it's just so it's so awful this so much corporate [TS]

01:50:38   software is so bad and this is an instance where its corporate software [TS]

01:50:43   software that you can use an enterprising stems that is really good [TS]

01:50:47   player he is speaking of writing long form writing and using markdown you [TS]

01:50:56   nowhere where it's really taking off and I'm fascinated by it is with screenplay [TS]

01:51:03   authors [TS]

01:51:04   movies there's two apps called once called slug line to match which is one [TS]

01:51:13   of the people behind and then there's high land which is from John august's [TS]

01:51:17   company I'll and I think started more as I get viewer that's John august [TS]

01:51:24   companies quote unquote ABS they don't use markdown markdown they use they the [TS]

01:51:31   John Innes do in a couple other ppl collaborated with like a tiny like 1% [TS]

01:51:37   sprinkling of a little bit for me [TS]

01:51:40   couple years ago [TS]

01:51:41   but they started with markdown and days dad made like a markdown like syntex a [TS]

01:51:46   call fountain and it uses like the Dodge found file extension optimized [TS]

01:51:51   specifically for the rules of ice cream place a unibody screenplay looks like [TS]

01:51:57   there's its kind in years ago I used in nineteen heard around with whatever that [TS]

01:52:02   heavy duty vinyl [TS]

01:52:04   final draft final draft yeah yeah and then you know and have also used [TS]

01:52:09   Scrivener which has some screenplay stuff it you can do you can do that in [TS]

01:52:15   Scrivener as well [TS]

01:52:16   final draft is the Microsoft Word of screenplay writing in the 800 pound [TS]

01:52:20   gorilla on the market it is tons of features in the features help drive it [TS]

01:52:24   and you know the file format is sort of a standard and people hate it or at [TS]

01:52:31   least like for the real there's some people who love microsoft word I'm not [TS]

01:52:35   saying again it's the same thing with the phone sizes I'm not saying that [TS]

01:52:38   everybody hate Microsoft Word some people love it I'm sure you know there's [TS]

01:52:43   people who just really get into I'm sure that people who love final draft but for [TS]

01:52:47   the type of people who don't like word and who would prefer to write a blog [TS]

01:52:51   post in a simple text editor with markdown if you're like that you don't [TS]

01:52:57   like writing your screenplay with Final Cut final draft final draft and so [TS]

01:53:03   instead there's two of these apps are great friends you know it's almost like [TS]

01:53:08   a friendly competition cuz they collaborated on the file format this dot [TS]

01:53:11   for fountain file format between them but it's very very marked down like just [TS]

01:53:16   with some assumptions based on the rules of ice cream place so like the way that [TS]

01:53:22   in screen play a character named for dialogue as always all caps so if you [TS]

01:53:26   write in all caps and moats return that it automatically knows that that's a [TS]

01:53:32   character name and that the next line is dial and you know if you want to put a [TS]

01:53:38   word that Alex wrapping and asterisks you know just like mark down [TS]

01:53:42   but it lets you use if you want to you could do something like BB it and just [TS]

01:53:47   write in a format that is very very readable in its native format and then [TS]

01:53:52   you processes and outcomes a PDF that looks like a screenplay everything's in [TS]

01:53:56   Currier all the margins are taking care of and stuff like that and but you could [TS]

01:54:01   use their apps and you know the slug line and fountain and it [TS]

01:54:05   format does as you're typing it looks a little bit more screenplay right off the [TS]

01:54:11   bat instead of you know your text but the file format you're saving underneath [TS]

01:54:16   is just plain tax and then you know you have that peace of mind like going back [TS]

01:54:20   to our discussion about iti works out like twenty years from now your [TS]

01:54:23   screenplay still just a plain text file you don't have to worry that slug line [TS]

01:54:27   is still an ass you laugh but it's no I know and laughing I'm still laughing [TS]

01:54:32   about the work thing and the other thing I think the reason that these apps have [TS]

01:54:39   taken off is even a final draft still sort of a standard like the basic gist [TS]

01:54:45   though as I can hear if you're a working you know screenplays screenwriter that [TS]

01:54:51   the canonical format that gets passed around as you submit your work and [TS]

01:54:55   studios read it or you know even if you're already been hired have to pass a [TS]

01:54:59   draft is a PDF file so it doesn't matter what you used to write it you generate a [TS]

01:55:03   PDF and that's what everybody reads and he stops create PDFs that looked like [TS]

01:55:08   perfect screenplays there's no you know there is no system in place like with [TS]

01:55:12   word with change tracking and stuff like that that you are obligated to use final [TS]

01:55:16   draft in a way and maybe some studios have something like that but for the [TS]

01:55:20   most part it seems like a lot of working screenwriters can just use these apps [TS]

01:55:24   and miss out on nothing pleases me to no end [TS]

01:55:29   that something I did you know like 0.000011% input from me that these guys [TS]

01:55:37   went out and made something inspired by it that is you know really solves a [TS]

01:55:41   problem [TS]

01:55:41   screenwriters that markdown solve for me as somebody writing for a blog right do [TS]

01:55:49   you do you have any 901 dropping names but I mean you know there's gotta be [TS]

01:55:57   some something as people who are using these apps while John August right I [TS]

01:56:02   mean I don't know I don't know of anybody bigger than that but you know [TS]

01:56:06   John August rates [TS]

01:56:07   you know blockbuster movies I don't know anybody you know of any other to be [TS]

01:56:13   pretty cool to know that you know which someone you know blockbuster movies are [TS]

01:56:17   written right there is pretty awesome thing about what else has been in the [TS]

01:56:24   news [TS]

01:56:24   you know what it's old news at this point but Merlin and I didn't even [TS]

01:56:28   mention it last week was Tim Cook coming out as gay yeah that was a guess about [TS]

01:56:34   two weeks ago now but I thought that was so amazingly well done almost [TS]

01:56:41   unbelievably how well how how how that played out [TS]

01:56:46   yeah I mean it's in its think i sat on my website that it's nice for people who [TS]

01:56:57   might be having trouble you know a guy like Tim Cook is prolly not really [TS]

01:57:01   having trouble as he gave you know as much trouble as some of the people are [TS]

01:57:04   having his gay gay people you probably did growing up though [TS]

01:57:08   yeah the South well I even this leave the south out of it but he's a little [TS]

01:57:13   bit taller than me he said around 50 and are now simply seems like that maybe a [TS]

01:57:21   little bit maybe slightly older some way that we could look up [TS]

01:57:32   how old is Tim Cook ok I told no immediate answer fifty for 24 years old [TS]

01:57:46   yeah I grew up in suburban Philadelphia you know it is you know what I think [TS]

01:57:54   relatively speaking with little bit not certainly not socially super liberal but [TS]

01:57:59   you know it's a little bit more liberal than the south and you know when I grew [TS]

01:58:03   up being gay was something that just wasn't talked about really just wasn't I [TS]

01:58:08   don't know when I was a kid it just I didn't really think it was sort of [TS]

01:58:13   vaguely knew what it meant but it didn't seem like it was anybody seemed like [TS]

01:58:17   something that like maybe one in 10,000 people I don't know it just seemed very [TS]

01:58:23   very it just seemed like something that must have been obscure cuz nobody talked [TS]

01:58:27   about it [TS]

01:58:27   yeah and I'm sure the adults in knew that it was more common but it was [TS]

01:58:32   something that was basically not talked about I think people think in that area [TS]

01:58:39   people didn't talk about it with their kids because they didn't want to give [TS]

01:58:42   the kids the idea I thought process that I don't know it was in for the kill [TS]

01:58:49   because then they will become curious about what being gay is in the kid might [TS]

01:58:52   become gay you know and combine it with you know combine that with the fact that [TS]

01:58:59   all Christian religions are generally opposed to it you know I grew up in a [TS]

01:59:04   Catholic family and it you know the Catholic Church considers it a send you [TS]

01:59:09   know they consider all sorts of skipping church is a sin to you know yes in there [TS]

01:59:14   obviously bad things and you know that was under that rubric [TS]

01:59:19   and you know people nobody was game on TV and I don't you mean TV is you know [TS]

01:59:25   is is not a reflection of America are of culture as a whole but it it informs it [TS]

01:59:32   right and I what what aspects of culture make it on the TV somehow are like this [TS]

01:59:38   is the parts of society this is the part of our culture that are ok and nobody [TS]

01:59:43   was game on TV which meant was not ok you know it was weird it was a bad time [TS]

01:59:47   I think about this with my son who's the center square guy on wall and Poland on [TS]

01:59:55   hollywood screen in hindsight early and he was gay is anybody who's ever been [TS]

02:00:03   gay and I had no idea I honestly as a kid I mean I'm not that old but I [TS]

02:00:08   honestly thought that he was just flamboyant yeah I did not I did not [TS]

02:00:14   realize I had no idea just didn't know whereas like I think it's amazing in one [TS]

02:00:20   generation that like my son is growing up in a world where you know being gay [TS]

02:00:25   is you know just like having different colored skin it's just some people are [TS]

02:00:30   that way and you know we see in philadelphia you know people are gay all [TS]

02:00:34   the time and you know they are friends at his school have you know some of his [TS]

02:00:39   friends have two months and you know it's not even if he did run as he [TS]

02:00:44   doesn't even think about it thanks best frank's best friend from growing up in [TS]

02:00:49   he met this kid when he was one or two maybe it was too but very early on and [TS]

02:00:54   he's got to moms and we were fortunate to go to their wedding which was not a [TS]

02:01:01   year ago it's awesome I cannot so happy that the world's Jensen's way but it's [TS]

02:01:09   you know it's not like that everywhere and it certainly wasn't no [TS]

02:01:15   yeah and sits in its still not like that for some people and so they think that's [TS]

02:01:19   why these you know somebody who successfully Kim being able to tell his [TS]

02:01:24   story is very important [TS]

02:01:26   Genesis middle school is in fifth grade now they have a club called glow I think [TS]

02:01:33   this is awesome and stands for gay lesbian or whatever I love that I think [TS]

02:01:39   that is so awesome because to me that sounds a little goofy it's a little fun [TS]

02:01:44   but it really sort of expresses the to me the the the modern way of thinking [TS]

02:01:50   which is hey whatever floats your boat [TS]

02:01:51   know and everybody you know is different and some people are very different and [TS]

02:01:56   it's all OK and you know it well fifth-graders called middle school and [TS]

02:02:01   ok I guess yeah but I thought that such a cool name and it's just to me is the [TS]

02:02:08   difference between you know his world and my world thirty years ago when I was [TS]

02:02:13   in fourth grade because there is no way they were going to have a gay let's go [TS]

02:02:17   clubbing you know and I had Siracusa talked about this I need to pee but with [TS]

02:02:24   that we've reached a point our culture where where nobody seems to agree that [TS]

02:02:34   you can't be against gay right it's it's like culturally agreed upon that it's [TS]

02:02:42   just you know discriminatory makes you a bad person to be against gays but you [TS]

02:02:48   can still be things like against gay marriage like that still like a [TS]

02:02:52   culturally acceptable stance to take ya decreasing Lisa decreasing liscio [TS]

02:02:59   definitely it's you know it's catching up to where racism was yeah I mean [TS]

02:03:07   people even people who are opposed to gay marriage now how hard time not at [TS]

02:03:12   least saying that they approve of civil unions and Brian and once you do that [TS]

02:03:17   you're calling for you [TS]

02:03:20   right right right when you're driving this difference between religious [TS]

02:03:24   aspects of marriage and civil aspects of it where but nobody is endorsing a point [TS]

02:03:29   that religions have to accept just that legally it has to be called the same [TS]

02:03:33   thing like like the response to nobody really sure somewhere you know obviously [TS]

02:03:41   on the dark side of Twitter there where people have anonymous accounts at the [TS]

02:03:46   you know all sorts of the ugliest thoughts that damage can have espoused [TS]

02:03:52   everything I say I couldn't figure out of it was aight I think it must have [TS]

02:03:58   been because he was saying [TS]

02:04:03   Tim Cook is gay so you should switch to Android and if you want I will come to [TS]

02:04:08   your house and pick up your Apple products and it was written in it wasn't [TS]

02:04:15   written as a joke it seemed you know like you know like this is it was sort [TS]

02:04:20   of like there was at least a decent amount of texts where this is an [TS]

02:04:24   abomination of nature source thing but but reading like the bottom line was the [TS]

02:04:30   guy was offering to drive your products like the culturally acceptable way to [TS]

02:04:42   of not just cheer and clap your hands [TS]

02:04:48   hooks essay is to sort of take us and I saw some of this a fair amount is sort [TS]

02:04:57   of who cares [TS]

02:04:59   this isn't you know you know this is why it why why why make this public this is [TS]

02:05:04   your make your drawing more attention to to to the issue then you know it was [TS]

02:05:09   totally cool before you actually you know Tim Cook actually wrote the story [TS]

02:05:12   yyy robust interfaces I mean they wouldn't say it that way but that's sort [TS]

02:05:16   of how it becomes a crafts are used putting this in my face why are you [TS]

02:05:20   making me think about [TS]

02:05:21   things that I don't want to think about and again I'm just written in syracuse [TS]

02:05:27   here but it's it's true like as a single person in a one-man however powerfully [TS]

02:05:33   is that it doesn't make that big a difference that he's now publicly out as [TS]

02:05:38   gay and proud of it than before when he just never spoke about it in public [TS]

02:05:42   doesn't make that big difference but it doesn't make a difference to me [TS]

02:05:47   particularly no I mean I think there's a there's a there are a bunch of people [TS]

02:05:51   you know it makes a difference if you're gay I think it but we don't live you [TS]

02:05:56   know that we're not all isolated from each other everything is related in [TS]

02:06:00   context and you know it and it does matter where we were 10 years ago and [TS]

02:06:06   fifteen years ago right it wasn't that long ago where it was controversial that [TS]

02:06:10   will grace had to gay characters as you know the the lead the vast over prime [TS]

02:06:16   time network sitcom right whereas now that you mean it wasn't that long ago [TS]

02:06:21   but it it wouldn't be an issue now at all right we're coming very fast but [TS]

02:06:28   we're not there yet [TS]

02:06:29   right and it really does make a difference that there is a that one of [TS]

02:06:35   the most powerful leaders in our country is out and proud of being gay right I [TS]

02:06:40   mean how many how many kids are there right now to teenagers today in this [TS]

02:06:45   country let alone other countries that are far behind us on this issue socially [TS]

02:06:50   who are gay and worried or even scared about telling their parents and coming [TS]

02:06:57   out to the friends you know you know heartbreaking and it's doing issue and [TS]

02:07:02   to have somebody like Tim Cook saying I am proud of it and consider it a gift [TS]

02:07:06   from God is its historic I really do think its historic yeah I can't think as [TS]

02:07:13   I can't think of any other executive Tony obviously follow Apple a closely [TS]

02:07:20   than any other companies I'm sure that somebody out there is is upset that I [TS]

02:07:25   don't didn't pay attention [TS]

02:07:26   there was a guy I don't know there was a guy was like a charge of the bank CEO of [TS]

02:07:31   a bank but he didn't come out until after he'd resign step down a retired or [TS]

02:07:35   something like that and said that it was really a day was you know as he was in [TS]

02:07:42   the ER visits happening now is professional sports right right it's my [TS]

02:07:51   just a few things that have traditionally at two places that have [TS]

02:07:55   traditionally been fairly conservative that are now being forced to open up [TS]

02:08:02   about what's really reality I also thought the other thing it was [TS]

02:08:07   remarkable not just that he didn't answer but I thought it was such a [TS]

02:08:10   well-written piece rear ended so short very success and I firmly believe I'm [TS]

02:08:17   sure that there you know he didn't write it without any help whatsoever editing [TS]

02:08:23   are you know and from within but I do think that it was his words you know in [TS]

02:08:28   the same way to me it was like like the Steve Jobs thought on music and Steve [TS]

02:08:33   Jobs was alone thoughts on flash where you could tell that it was jobs writing [TS]

02:08:38   it [TS]

02:08:39   yeah right that there was it wasn't just his name at the bottom of the letter [TS]

02:08:42   they could like like what we know of Steve Jobs and his obsessions in the way [TS]

02:08:46   things really came out in those to an early work on essays says yeah and I [TS]

02:08:54   can't help but think that this this piece is so very Tim Cook in in the way [TS]

02:09:02   that it's written there's a certain meticulous next to it and the tightness [TS]

02:09:06   of thought and anywhere where you might be tempted to sort of roll your eyes at [TS]

02:09:12   the sort of idealism of it I think it's genuine I don't think there's any reason [TS]

02:09:17   to I think it's genuinely how he feels that he truly feels like a social [TS]

02:09:22   obligation to our society as a whole [TS]

02:09:27   to to make things better in in this regard yeah do you think there's a [TS]

02:09:33   there's a reason now as opposed to earlier I i do I don't know it's it's it [TS]

02:09:44   seems like the Apple is it a better in a better position currently in terms of [TS]

02:09:50   public opinion because the stock prices doing better than it was like say your [TS]

02:09:53   ago I do I think that you know and who knows maybe he really only came to the [TS]

02:10:01   decision maybe it was something he was thinking about maybe doing for a year [TS]

02:10:04   two years and and finally thought maybe it just popped into his head maybe you [TS]

02:10:08   know something in September made him think you know I think I should come out [TS]

02:10:12   because this this who knows how how long it was planned and I don't know but in [TS]

02:10:17   hindsight it sure feels perfectly timed yes right like in some way it if he had [TS]

02:10:28   been out for fifteen years and had been you know had like a longtime partner you [TS]

02:10:38   know since before there was even legal gay marriage in California who [TS]

02:10:41   accompanied him to events and therefore you know had been out while he was COO [TS]

02:10:47   not CEO it certainly would have been his right and nobody would right-minded [TS]

02:10:53   wouldn't complain about it but it wouldn't have been as big a deal I don't [TS]

02:10:56   think you know somehow it feels right and the fact that it's a long as it's in [TS]

02:11:03   Steve Jobs dead three years as somehow it feels like the right amount of time [TS]

02:11:10   where the tumultuous of of him taking over past it seems like this year we [TS]

02:11:16   transition period is over even though Tim Cook spent a lot of time almost [TS]

02:11:24   effectively being see all jobs with sick right there were still you know jobs are [TS]

02:11:30   still there he still had input into how the products were designed and made and [TS]

02:11:35   to the point now where no one can reasonably say [TS]

02:11:38   know that you know the issue that's a good device but it was you know but jobs [TS]

02:11:42   had his fingers and that's owed him cocaine claimed it as its own right I [TS]

02:11:46   I've long thought that it even before Jobs was sick or what you know maybe he [TS]

02:11:53   technically was sick because he had the cancer [TS]

02:11:56   you know the whole period from when the cancer was first diagnosed until he died [TS]

02:12:01   a guess he was technically sick the whole time but even when he was feeling [TS]

02:12:05   well and they thought they had everything in remission I still think [TS]

02:12:08   that the the delegation of duties I what Tim Cook did Apple versus what Steve [TS]

02:12:12   Jobs did that Tim Cook was if you just described his duties to someone who [TS]

02:12:17   didn't know their titles you to where he's the CEO jobs is something else [TS]

02:12:23   maybe the president or something like that you know used to be a more calm you [TS]

02:12:26   know when we were kids a lot of companies had like a CEO and President [TS]

02:12:29   and CEO is more about making company-wide decisions and stuff like [TS]

02:12:36   that you know about the company and the bureaucracy of the company whereas jobs [TS]

02:12:41   could even when he was you know healthy was more solely focused on the products [TS]

02:12:47   and product development but even so I still determined to seem so perfect as [TS]

02:12:53   you said I think the transition period ended this year stocks stabilized [TS]

02:12:58   they've they've they haven't released it but they've at least unveiled a wholly [TS]

02:13:02   the watch which is wholly formed host Steve ghetto and its notes remains to be [TS]

02:13:10   seen how it's going to you know it isn't out yet but it certainly seems as though [TS]

02:13:14   there's no you know they're they're not unable to create a new product that gets [TS]

02:13:18   people talking that's over the stock is back and it just seems like people have [TS]

02:13:24   finally shut the hell up about [TS]

02:13:26   when happiness Steve we're still not entirely but it's we've passed it I [TS]

02:13:33   don't remember a year ago twenty the shower files but there are a lot of [TS]

02:13:38   people literally calling for Apple's board the fire Tim Cook you know fired [TS]

02:13:43   him cookies terrible you know when and where passing it is somehow feels right [TS]

02:13:50   yeah I'm looking forward to the addition of haunted empire has a new book out a [TS]

02:14:01   shorter shelf when I wrote about it I did I wrote I was like I really feel [TS]

02:14:07   like they knew it because it really does it part of what I thought was bad but [TS]

02:14:12   the book is it felt rushed it felt like the editing [TS]

02:14:15   if it could have been tighter and I can't help but think that they wanted to [TS]

02:14:19   rush out back in February because they thought it was going to turn around the [TS]

02:14:25   latest you know I think the writing was on the wall that the book was already [TS]

02:14:29   gonna get out quickly last thing I think I've had this in my notes as you see [TS]

02:14:42   this thing yesterday with the Twitter mission statement [TS]

02:14:46   well and i cant but I think about it as I compared to the Tim Cook essay on you [TS]

02:14:56   know coming out as gay and proud and how good the writing is I say this is side [TS]

02:15:01   maybe I value good writing more than most people because I'm a writer I care [TS]

02:15:05   about it but I can't help it has basic theory in general whether it's something [TS]

02:15:08   personal like Tim Cook's thing or whether it's something purely business [TS]

02:15:12   like like a strategy statement that good writing is the result of good thinking [TS]

02:15:18   and bad writing is usually the result of sloppy thinking incomplete thinking you [TS]

02:15:25   know that it [TS]

02:15:26   and here's the twitters strategy statement to reach the largest daily [TS]

02:15:33   audience in the world by connecting everyone to their world via our [TS]

02:15:38   information sharing and distribution platform products and be one of the top [TS]

02:15:42   revenue-generating Internet companies in the in the world and i cant believe more [TS]

02:15:50   people I didn't jump on it right away about complete that I was the first [TS]

02:15:53   person I saw to point out that that was not even close to hitting in the length [TS]

02:15:57   of a tweet it's two hundred and shouldn't your strategy statement and [TS]

02:16:06   especially if your Twitter it's so that they put it into a longer one of the [TS]

02:16:17   things called it's so bad it's really bad yeah I really find it worrisome I've [TS]

02:16:26   had a very worrisome as a platform that I really care about and someone will [TS]

02:16:31   love but that seems to be floundering at an executive level you know there's just [TS]

02:16:36   had some more executive shakeup site where there that they've had like three [TS]

02:16:41   had to product in the last like two years and the last one they just demoted [TS]

02:16:47   was only there six months it's it's very worrisome in this draft statement [TS]

02:16:52   doesn't make me feel any better about it it's like every other day about the net [TS]

02:16:58   neutrality we're like to meet President Obama's statement on it was very clearly [TS]

02:17:06   written and that there might be room to disagree there might be a reasonable [TS]

02:17:10   argument against it but I thought that his arguments in favor of it we're very [TS]

02:17:14   clearly expressed 1234 here's the reasons that we should make sure we keep [TS]

02:17:20   it keep this sort of not favoring one companies packets over another companies [TS]

02:17:25   packets on an internet keep it the way it is [TS]

02:17:29   which has been that all packets are treated equally [TS]

02:17:32   and the arguments on the other side from the cable companies and the phone [TS]

02:17:36   providers so obtuse and it's like you can read them and their their words [TS]

02:17:42   words but damned if I know what damned if I know what the what the meaning is [TS]

02:17:51   yeah other than the old Senate Live skit with frankenstein and caveman and [TS]

02:17:58   Frankenstein and yeah they sing Christmas carols [TS]

02:18:05   like kevin newman who is Frankenstein and he never said was bad I can't help [TS]

02:18:20   but think that the argument in the face against this net neutrality is more or [TS]

02:18:25   less a knee jerk frankenstein Ian regulation bad regulation is basically [TS]

02:18:31   right and I'm not one in favor of red tape and bureaucracy it's not you know I [TS]

02:18:37   really think you have to see government regulation as as a continuum you know a [TS]

02:18:42   scale from light graded our current not zero not not binary you know on her off [TS]

02:18:48   and these companies are regulated already would you know it's not like [TS]

02:18:52   Comcast doesn't face for some regulations it's the regulations kinda [TS]

02:18:56   favor consumers and and small companies start-ups are multi-billion dollar [TS]

02:19:04   stack the deck in favor of Verizon New made who's making eight billion dollars [TS]

02:19:09   because they need they need yeah and I can't I should the whole cynicism behind [TS]

02:19:17   that I can't even understand because so there is that the comment that tweet by [TS]

02:19:25   Ted Cruz yes senator from Texas read the texts you know [TS]

02:19:34   and he said it's the way the Obamacare for the internet rain rain right and [TS]

02:19:42   what's not have the internet operate at the speed of government right and I [TS]

02:19:47   tweeted something back to you know some basic I insulted him and his [TS]

02:19:52   intelligence and and Josh Saunders is the editor to correctly pointed out that [TS]

02:19:59   he's the guy graduated magna cum laude from Harvard or something yeah that's [TS]

02:20:07   right but you know he's actually not an idiot it's just the nasa like he's [TS]

02:20:18   protecting his buddies at the big cable industry's the aids is like a loud I [TS]

02:20:27   guess if I ever went to harvard is well with my grades and never really never [TS]

02:20:35   came up [TS]

02:20:36   yeah it's definitely not a dummy but he's definitely a cynical because he [TS]

02:20:40   knows how to communicate at this sort of caveman level of Internet government [TS]

02:20:47   regulation bad goes no further and you know it's the same people who think that [TS]

02:20:56   the government should cut back on handouts and not decrease the size of [TS]

02:21:01   their medicare check sure social security right that it's the other hand [TS]

02:21:06   out keep government out of my social security the government out of my system [TS]

02:21:11   like that you ask people if you think the government should stay out of social [TS]

02:21:14   security and you get like a 60 percent response rate this [TS]

02:21:17   yes keep them out of social security [TS]

02:21:20   but anyway I'm deeply worried about Twitter and their yeah yeah I did they [TS]

02:21:27   thinking about the future that does not make me very happy [TS]

02:21:31   yeah I can't help but think that the translation from whatever language that [TS]

02:21:35   is written in the English that the reach the largest daily audience in the world [TS]

02:21:38   by connecting everyone in the world [TS]

02:21:41   something something something they want to be more like Facebook is to me what [TS]

02:21:47   that means because Facebook is more popular that the target of this message [TS]

02:21:51   was not normal people it was two bankers investment people in you know people [TS]

02:21:55   who've kept Twitter's stock its I think it last I checked it slightly below [TS]

02:22:01   where the IPO last year so it hasn't created hasn't tanked but nobody has an [TS]

02:22:05   IPO and hopes that the stock is flat first year you know and so there is some [TS]

02:22:11   definite skepticism and that this is a dress that the people who have kept [TS]

02:22:15   their stock to press and in the meantime Facebook is going up and up and up and [TS]

02:22:19   to me the translation of this is we're going to somehow try to be more like [TS]

02:22:23   Facebook whereas to me the whole point of Twitter is that it's sort of an anti [TS]

02:22:27   Facebook and whether that means that inherently they're always going to be [TS]

02:22:31   smaller than Facebook financially and user-based wise so be it but at least be [TS]

02:22:35   true to yourself you know and the whole reason that you had any success at all [TS]

02:22:40   is that you're not then right there's nothing wrong sometimes a great idea [TS]

02:22:46   isn't going to be the most successful version of that idea that Twitter i [TS]

02:22:50   think is genius and his so well designed and so clever in so many ways but maybe [TS]

02:22:55   the ways that it's genius and simple inherently mean that it can never be as [TS]

02:23:00   big as Facebook and so be it can still be profitable [TS]

02:23:03   you know that to me is the the scary part of their strategy statement is that [TS]

02:23:10   to me is it somehow translates into we're going to wreck what makes twitter [TS]

02:23:14   twitter [TS]

02:23:16   well interests addresses nothing about what users liked about her know that [TS]

02:23:25   seems to be that that to me seems like the thing that you should be doing the [TS]

02:23:30   things you should be doing primarily in your mission statement and really only [TS]

02:23:34   in your mission statement and that's what makes them a mission statement and [TS]

02:23:40   make it makes it reach people and I worked at work in a financial services [TS]

02:23:44   company back when it was good but when the company was going around the company [TS]

02:23:53   was good I think it was because of your time by the whole industry 300 you know [TS]

02:23:58   announced the company they worked at their mission statement was improving [TS]

02:24:02   financial security for people that's not bad [TS]

02:24:05   yeah no it was really just like that's where people were in taps into the thing [TS]

02:24:11   that people are worried about their word about their financial security they want [TS]

02:24:13   to make sure they can retire and that's what we did was we tried to do anyway [TS]

02:24:18   it's like back please for your finances I'm not joking right now you could go [TS]

02:24:26   all right if you feel like your personal your family's personal finances are in [TS]

02:24:31   good hands in and sound shape for the future and for retirement you feel [TS]

02:24:35   better you know just drifting off to sleep at night [TS]

02:24:38   yeah you know as opposed to being wide-eyed you know what I'm going to do [TS]

02:24:45   anyway we should wrap it up about her yeah white-knuckled and we've already [TS]

02:24:53   blown it without doubt that we've already left [TS]

02:24:55   slide [TS]

02:24:57   someday we're gonna do now [TS]

02:25:00   someday we're gonna come back hat in hand everything comes out everything you [TS]

02:25:12   type into the box and just javaScript is turned it into told you so told you I [TS]

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02:25:32   are of course our good friends at Squarespace thank you john wants this is [TS]

02:25:38   episode 110 to India as I said one you know I do I remember very clearly you [TS]

02:25:50   know it's a pleasure to have you back on episode 100 working people go to find [TS]

02:25:53   out more about your book I will be putting shortly on very nice website net [TS]

02:25:59   about it but if you go to Peachpit calm and search on visual guide to Minecraft [TS]

02:26:05   or my name both similar LTZ it'll come up and how they were your Minecraft [TS]

02:26:11   playing enjoyments highly recommended for anybody out there and I dunno I just [TS]

02:26:15   know it cuz everytime I bring up on the show you the email from people in the [TS]

02:26:18   same boat as me and you were a year ago [TS]

02:26:21   kid is obsessed with it and yeah what's going on should I be worried and I think [TS]

02:26:31   the short answer is no it's actually a CHM creative outlet and it is the [TS]

02:26:37   opposite of like mindlessness it is super engaging and but if your losses I [TS]

02:26:42   am God by this book so otherwise very nice website that yes thank you thank [TS]

02:26:52   you [TS]

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