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90: ‘Jamming More RAM in for Free’, With John Moltz

 

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00:00:13   Asian I know I'm not an optician are not in optics but the basic idea is sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/13">TS</a>]

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00:00:39   work on the water like fishermen loved polarized sunglasses because it cuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/39">TS</a>]

00:00:46   down on glare from the water but you know if you have polarized sunglasses or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/46">TS</a>]

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00:01:42   an iPhone all the time as I presume market does used polarized sunglasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/102">TS</a>]

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00:04:16   actually made it made the original iPod with her son with her polarized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/256">TS</a>]

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00:08:48   actually had to start wearing glasses in high school I also got contacts and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/528">TS</a>]

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00:10:04   lights are real low in the room because it's set up for exams and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/604">TS</a>]

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00:10:51   and then they are asked to give us a pair of glasses and they were there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/651">TS</a>]

00:10:56   look like Warby Parkers now they're like I guess you know they're like what looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/656">TS</a>]

00:11:00   cool now black chunky glasses but like in the eighties they were the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03   glasses and a real thick and it was the same parent they just put them on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/663">TS</a>]

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00:11:25   about this row what about this room and doing can't see any of the Rose he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/685">TS</a>]

00:11:30   couldn't even see the big hit the top started giggling and then that she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/690">TS</a>]

00:11:37   to cover his there I and it was the same thing you couldn't read it and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/697">TS</a>]

00:11:50   goes what if you try these on she gives him this pair of glasses everybody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/710">TS</a>]

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00:12:28   his mom is even a nurse nurses kids are always been like he didn't have health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/748">TS</a>]

00:12:32   care anything I did just like never he never really and somehow I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/752">TS</a>]

00:12:39   he had had a really bad year between 5th and 6th grade if he'd been absent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/759">TS</a>]

00:12:43   year before when they did the same thing but last two days later doing comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/763">TS</a>]

00:12:55   thanks got glasses he doesn't have to wear them which is pretty pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/775">TS</a>]

00:13:02   just smiled but is it distance or close distance and mana first first pair that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/782">TS</a>]

00:13:10   he got where was this Spiderman glasses a picture him with those they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/790">TS</a>]

00:13:17   were and they were asked if they were very subtly spider-man the case was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/797">TS</a>]

00:13:21   kind of spider-man depth but the the glasses themselves look like sort of war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/801">TS</a>]

00:13:25   because they just had a little spider web on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/805">TS</a>]

00:13:30   on the things on the side I thought those kids Jonas's school wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/810">TS</a>]

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00:13:42   there are now she's pretty common I can't wait to see what happened to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/822">TS</a>]

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00:15:00   that's a good game I love all the points do all the vector vector art yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/900">TS</a>]

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00:16:10   more like pac-man graphics even had like that I know is made by the same company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/970">TS</a>]

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00:19:50   happened to my left eye in the past year probably whatever is whatever mechanism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1190">TS</a>]

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00:20:51   got this new thing and after today I see great distance with his new contact land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1251">TS</a>]

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00:21:03   nearsighted prescription is the worst day makes the the inability to close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1263">TS</a>]

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00:22:56   started exercising again and and I went to the doctor and I had everything and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1376">TS</a>]

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00:28:48   that is not gonna be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1728">TS</a>]

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00:29:37   the old ones in the know how can you not tell the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1777">TS</a>]

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00:29:45   we thought Return of the Jedi was the bad one and now we think that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:50   great movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1790">TS</a>]

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00:30:13   can watch movies like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1813">TS</a>]

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00:30:19   was a very when he was really kind of into the woods into the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:23   themselves for a while before he got into the the Clone Wars show and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:28   at that point he has hit was he asked a lot of questions about the other three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:32   movies and I was like wow we don't have them exist I worry I worry about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:49   movies because they came from the same guy and it's not talking about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1849">TS</a>]

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00:31:03   your body dies in his replace throughout the cycle so like I don't know within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:09   like 10 years every cell in your brain has died and been replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1869">TS</a>]

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00:31:39   george lucas as he got older that is just very MEA he might be a seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:45   very nice man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   and you know he's had a very happy life but as an artist the guy that the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:51   who made thx 1138 eventually made the Phantom Menace is just mind-boggling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:58   that it wasn't because I like a work for hire you know you know gotta do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:03   the money at stake he funded the whole thing I'm so lucky he's set everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:11   up and that's why it was so that to me is is why those movies are so profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:16   disappointing was that he always impressed me that in a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:22   way than like Stanley Kubrick that he he was a guy who wanted to do things his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:26   own way outside the studio system you know I was thought it was cool everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:30   knew you know he wasn't Los Angeles based he was in Northern California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   nobody else was up there making movies and then he he created this amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:39   franchise that and and set up the licensing and such a way that he got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:43   the money from it so that he would never have to go to the studios from money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:47   make a movie again he could just wanted to and then he made used it to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:52   Howard the Duck in the Phantom Menace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:58   yeah yeah I mean he had known the answer to either themself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   towered the doctor at his grandparents house and i got really a couple of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:07   did that happen I don't know what it was like he was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:11   babysat for the weekend we watch for the weekend in our way and Netflix or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:17   something like that let's watch that I tried to explain to him that it was from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:23   the guy who invented store owners and you wouldn't believe me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:29   a half an hour in which both talk about Apple eventually yeah a financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:34   results came out today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:35   you know well today for us not today for the people of this entry into this later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:41   come out till thursday or some people should listen live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:47   should i do that you know the ATP guys have that it is helpful as I'm listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:57   to ATP and they either make a mistake can think of something that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:02   have to interrupt themselves and Google it they just keep their eye on the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:06   and say you know it's kind of amazing and it sort of reminds me of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:12   podcast equivalent of like on a light on and live TV the way the anger always has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:17   your piece and a director somebody off stage can tell them things you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:22   that caused it so that the person whose on-air doesn't have to interrupt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:27   shadow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   like it works remember having it with the old talk show in 10 Benjamin for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:33   while not a long stretch but for some stretch we had like an IRC channel or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:37   something like that and it was occasionally helpful I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:41   could do it though because I think the reason it works for ATP guys is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44   they required on a very regular schedule where every Wednesday night at nine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:52   don't think I've ever recorded two episodes of the show same day I can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:59   can the ones that I've been on you up at midnight but it's only midnight out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:09   there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   remember why I remember being disappointed I was disappointed when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:20   found out that like the tonight show wasn't life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   yeah although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:27   growing up I mean greater New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30   life was lived yes yes which was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:35   that was that was a crazy it was great to see them crack up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:40   those rules the moments that you remembered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:45   but that was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   there are like that nobody's live in the tonight show used to be live on the east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:57   coast and then I think at some point in the sixties they switched or maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:02   was when they moved to California in the seventies when they moved from New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   to California in the seventies maybe that's when they switched and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:13   felt like a bit of it she right but then I started thinking of it is more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:17   knowing like a magician's magic trick at first it ruins the illusion and anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:22   hey this is pretty cool these people they're clearly pretending they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25   lie they don't tell you it's live but they're acting as though it's late at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   night somehow that was ever going to and went to a show on NBC and its like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:40   was like at four o'clock in the afternoon or something not right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:44   a big tits but they kinda I mean they cheat he does he does like a time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:50   it's you know to stay up until eleven o'clock right or like like like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:58   election nato make jokes like as though he knows who won the election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:04   so financial results came in that's what we were on I hardly really looked at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:17   it seemed like they were more or less kind of sort of in line not shocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:21   financially good iPhones pretty good a little bit I found a little higher than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:27   expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28   yeah margins are still grade higher than expected and that was that's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:34   thing like that that during the rundown of the stock like the great 2013 Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:41   depression was always about the margin that the margins are collapse they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:46   you know and and part of it was because they had a run for a couple of maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:52   even number year where they had insanely high margins and I think maybe who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:57   if it will how much of it was just remember when they bought all the LEDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:01   LCD screens and a bunch of RAM in advance it was like somehow like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:07   that paid off huge and they had like 40 something percent margins for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:11   and part of it was just that that was a fluke in terms of being high and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:16   kept saying it was a fluke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   you know this is all you know we'll take the money but this is a surprise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:21   normally that they should not be this high and then part of it was just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:26   know bad luck that it down a little bit but then I know there was a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:30   speculation for a while that the margins were gonna compress yeah but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:40   the only it's like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43   question is the iPads are down again yeah i pad down here oh well it's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:48   things I think it and I think they maybe they're related I don't know iPad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:53   down 10% year-over-year 49 produced 2000 really well max are up 18 percent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2333">TS</a>]

00:39:01   the max 18 percent is even more impressive because according to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:06   like IDC in other people who track the whole industry the industry as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:10   is still down 2 percent for the same quarter so in an industry where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:16   Windows PCs or I guess including the Mac including all Mac and Windows Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:22   Windows PCs must be worse if the matter further right and I think that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:30   surprising because I feel like a couple of years ago when the iPad 2011 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:35   when I pad was early days and and was clearly a hit I think there everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:41   was including me was sort of thinking about how how is this as the iPad gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:46   more powerful and more popular and more familiar how is that can affect Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:51   laptop sales probably you know be like a sort of slow decline and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:56   that the other way around I don't know yeah yeah that's it's interesting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:02   don't know exactly where I think some of the negativity about Windows machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:09   sales as well as aid yeah it's just not the often those kinds of upgrades drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:16   sales in effect this time because everybody hates it I had really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:22   don't think if you went back late 2011 and early days as tablets and mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:27   phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:28   gangbusters I just don't think I would have believed that come 2014 the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:33   woods Dolci ATM I why does my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:38   well you know it's great to see them active yeah I like that ad did you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:45   that the Yeah Yeah Yeah I liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:49   yeah and I noticed them in like that that little flash of the old I come the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:53   old logos great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   the old logo came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   I so this is a new commercial that Apple they call it a short film it happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:01   be exactly thirty seconds long but I don't know you'll see it on TV money in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:09   between two predicaments of a show in between commercials to broadcast thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:16   seconds short film about one of their products they're not gonna do it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:25   who is if you haven't seen it it's just 30 seconds of almost like stop motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:31   animation but it's just a whole bunch own very very quick cuts I think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:38   less than a second each MacBook and MacBook Airs switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:49   thought that the whole thing holes and was about that was about the air ok that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:55   has a MacBook everybody's maybe it's two different sizes and MacBook Airs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2515">TS</a>]

00:42:00   with you know all sorts of custom stickers decorating the Apple logo case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:07   they never show the screen it's always just the Apple logo some of them I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:12   seen before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:13   some of them pretty clever but then I noticed the one about halfway through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:17   its like pixel art version of the old six color Apple logo that you put over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:24   the Apple logo on the MacBook and then when they met when the Apple logo lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:28   up it lights up the decal I saw that one at first I thought oh cool I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:34   seen you know that's a neat way to sneak the old apple logo into an ad but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:38   at the very end of the ad very quickly cycle through different styles of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:43   Apple logo not on a Macbook just the Apple logo included in the old six color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:48   amal ago and I found that really interesting that some pushback I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:53   about it and I said something whether they say it's a pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2573">TS</a>]

00:43:00   I rode people have been decorating a laptop stickers and decals ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:05   they became consumer products didn't see many stickers on them and it cost $5,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:10   first time I tried to buy a PowerBook of $6,000 gonna happen and I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:18   need to commission a demographic survey to state that younger people are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:22   likely to do this than older people no coincidence that the spot is debuting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:25   and back-to-school season in the old days Apple didn't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:31   conformance just owning a Mac major stand out from the crowd but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:35   happened now when everyone you know has a MacBook and every MacBook looks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:39   same something like this commercial is what happened some people push for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:45   country like everybody you know as a Macbook and it's obviously something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:50   like that doesn't literally mean everybody but I that's the case and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:54   lot of schools that there are you know whether it's high school or college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:59   where it seems like everybody you know I'm seeing those pictures you see those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:05   pictures like lecture halls yeah I mean that's been happening for years before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:10   these market changes happened in the PC market where where PC started falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:16   and apple and Max are rising and I think it's you know that when younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:22   teenagers and college students and even more profound so yet take every word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:28   every one with a grain of salt but if it seems like most of your friends all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:32   MacBooks all MacBooks especially from the back look exactly the same you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:37   their pro they're all just aluminum with white logo i mean i think is a cool luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:43   but you know as a kid that's there's a sort of resistance to that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:49   confinement yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:52   I'm not a fan of the plastic covers for plastic covers and wants to put a cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:58   on my iPhone but I just as I feel like I'm gonna drop that but i dont on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:02   Macbook I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   like the plastic yeah and I don't think the other thing shells shells yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:11   other thing that's interesting about that commercial is it shows a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   them that are beaten up literally dented scratched well used and that pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:21   interesting to my knowledge I think Matthew Bender you know I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25   Apple's ever advertised with you know well-worn well but they've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:34   it before like johnnie I've at least hasn't knows you know those videos he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:38   shoots from the white University lives in the guy who runs the matrix matrix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:48   you know that that they choose these materials for how they where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:55   and it should be like a pair of you know good pair of boots blue jeans or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2755">TS</a>]

00:46:00   something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   look better but they don't show it like that but I do think there's a truth to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:06   it you know and I think that especially when you know i phone is different cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:10   it's got class and can you know that the glass all things are offered I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:14   a case for my phone but I don't blame anybody does because glass whereas you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:19   know MacBooks are in my experience extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:23   yeah especially as specially since they've switched to SSDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:29   yeah I think that you know the aluminum you know I think that it's kinda need i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:34   think johnnie I've private like that I think he'd like privacy in Siena beat up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:39   in the morning and that they do think they designed for ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:44   uses a very old MacBook Air MacBook Pro thing like physically rough or leg rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:57   everything I mean it's gonna end and he seems like he spilled a drink on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:04   keyboard and I gotta figure out how to get the keys up to clean cuz it's clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   sticky now underneath their sticky it's easy clean the top of them but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:13   they're attached that I would not type on that thing just a bit of a passive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:23   aggressive street where he's taken now to showing me some Minecraft mods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:30   there's there's there's shaders and they they totally changed the way the game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/2850">TS</a>]

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01:00:19   more than a month ago started a long time right I started months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3619">TS</a>]

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01:00:33   the sound isn't gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3633">TS</a>]

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01:02:30   conversely I don't think it makes any sense product marketing wise for if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:34   there's 241 to be like a deer and one to be the beach here because there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:40   number of people who are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   want the other one but one the other specs right somebody is going to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:48   want to top of the line iPhone the top of the line one is the 5.5 inch and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:54   mid tier one is 4.7 inch like the five see equivalent class spec wise well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3774">TS</a>]

01:03:00   gonna be upset because i dont wanna 5.5 inch I even spent half an hour being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:06   Showtime how I can read my eye I don't want it I don't I rather not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:15   read my phone then carry something that I don't get it I don't see how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:20   could do it you know and then you know let's say that the 5.5 inch better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:24   camera than four point seven in turn will that I don't make me angry right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:30   just don't see it does make it is never made any sense to me like the iPhone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:36   don't know how old weight and end and then do they still there for sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:41   soul or does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   if they switch to a thing where the new iPhone sex is out and it has now it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:51   a four point seven inch screen i dont that that doesn't sound good to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:55   like four inches but I'll try it and it does sound reasonable and it does maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:59   you know as batteries get bigger you know you you know maybe I'll be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:03   with it thank you know what I kinda like having a bigger and you know you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:09   guess maybe maybe i mean and when they get when the five came out it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:13   physically smaller than the 40 S right at the screen but in terms of volume was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:20   actually a smaller and is all I would hope they would do something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:23   yeah it felt like a fair tradeoff yeah we're going to 5.5 is just ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:29   I'm not saying know that I i cant believe that other people would want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:34   device like that I do I totally understand that some people love them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:38   and that they you know that there is a sweet spot between you know I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:43   a tablet and phone I just have this one device I know it's not for me I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:47   such similar devices I can't imagine carrying them around carrying around my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:51   pocket everywhere I go I just don't see it I also doubt I do think they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:57   though and and with the discussions note you know joking aside about you know via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:03   it does raise the question of what is the point of getting a bigger screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:08   it to make everything bigger so that you see the same amount of texts but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:13   it's bigger or is it to put more on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:17   keep the texts the same size and you can have more texts at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:21   yeah I think the answer is maybe both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:25   little bit of both right with the settings you know with the colorado is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:32   one of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:33   depth of text but there's seventy introduced then read on the general text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:40   size and you can make text bigger system wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:44   and maybe you know it always seems to me like when you make it bigger the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:50   iPhone takes up too much space maybe with a 5.5 inch fun that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:55   great option for people with failing eyesight that I can see that is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3955">TS</a>]

01:06:00   product but I just don't see how they sell alongside the four point advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:04   at least at the same here just seems like a lot to say that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:12   leaks even though there are leaks coming out I feel like we know less about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:16   they're gonna announce iPhone wise then in years many years I can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:22   remember the last time I've had to guess last year about this time we had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:29   quite this time certainly by August we had seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:33   pricey I'd already written a review now I know we didn't see the privacy did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:41   we know but I thought we saw the shells I thought we only saw the five at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:45   meadowlands I think we saw the plastic ones we did name required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:49   they were white yeah but we did see all the colors I think we just like a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:54   plastic one yeah I do remember something so we're we're in agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4014">TS</a>]

01:07:00   5.5 yet anyway I don't know and then there's people in the the people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:06   the rumors saying that it's a month behind her there might come early next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:10   year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:10   why they wouldn't announce that in September then that seems weird that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:15   they would do that I give it three or four months behind that seems to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:19   that's a non-starter it should either be at the same time and therefore in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:27   for the holidays or like six months later you could be due in April or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:32   something like that yeah but if you know the holidays such a weird blip on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:40   quarter you mean you can see it every time they have these you know like today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:43   every time they do the quarterly financial management at such a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46   there's such a holiday company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:51   that it doesn't make sense that they would have something that would debut in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:54   January and they can announced in September because then people would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4074">TS</a>]

01:08:00   know the whole Osborne effect that they're not going to want to buy the 4.7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:04   inch one until they can see the 5.5 in 20 make a side-by-side comparison or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:11   know they can't just have five point you know we are not going to sell it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   January but we'll put him in the stores so you can see him whenever people love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:18   them you know what they're gonna did they wait doesn't make any sense you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:23   know you know show people something unless you can sell it yeah I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:27   get it something just doesn't doesn't some of those rumors came from Chico I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:32   sure who is held up as one of the really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:41   rumor resources and used to work for digital times that works in our ta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:48   securities when everybody I don't even know if it to hear is but if he got here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:55   and he's he's got a number of things correct but he's also got a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4135">TS</a>]

01:09:03   things completely incorrect because last year he said that the iPhones to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:07   announced at WWDC right and and he's the one saying that the the iPhone still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:14   big iPhones are delayed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17   won't be coming in may not come until next year I think that if the 5.5 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:22   iPhone is quota is delayed maybe they were working on it maybe it is delayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:26   for whatever reason that means it's pushed back here that's what I yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:32   would think so they're not going to do something to three months after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:37   initial so here's here's what I can't wait for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40   imagine this scenario September comes there's a big iPhone event Yerba Buena [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:45   Center is rented out to put up some kind of big colorful poster I fly out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:52   we have a big shown dog show dog and pony show ya and the only new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:59   announced is 4.75% sex it doesn't matter how awesome that phone is how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:08   people are going to say where's my right i mean they can't win situation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:17   Apple is in like it if they I don't see how they could do this make sense of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:25   they would do both but if they don't do both there's gonna be some number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:28   people who are outraged gonna say that they are out of touch you know disappear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:35   in 60 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:41   did they did they disappear after the sixty days I wanted to know someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:47   asked on a conference call I guess he trip trip Chowdhry does not get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:55   conference was great it is not the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:58   Kickstarter that I would totally Kickstarter project trip Chowdhry onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:06   the every quarter conference call at least for the next four you know will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:11   pay whatever it costs and we get trip Chowdhry on every get one question on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:16   every call Jean monsters but right now we're just gonna ask about Apple TV is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:24   gonna ask a question yeah yeah that's get funded trip Chowdhry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:31   Crowder here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:35   penciled in for just appearing in early June when you didn't release and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:40   watched thing this is Tim Cook southern accent question now we're still here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:53   next quarter I don't know how we can keep the lights on the other thing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4313">TS</a>]

01:12:13   the herd on the little bit of the conference call that I heard before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:20   got on the air was that while the iPad sales were down overall they were up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:26   about fifty percent in countries like China and India which was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:32   and they were down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35   mature countries developed nations BRIC countries BMI see what is the residual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:44   Russia India China Brazil Russia India China Brazil Russia India China sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:51   for random countries which is yet although there except that they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:57   all four are enormously populist right right so those those four countries it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:08   way up and isn't that exactly the the those are exactly the sort of countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:13   where I feel like everybody said they would never ever selling iPads well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:20   they also are like the sort of countries where everybody was saying last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:25   when the five see came out and wasn't cheap you know that everybody saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:30   keep iPhone and they came out and it wasn't there was no they had nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:35   do with the cost it had to do with having the mid tier occupied by a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:39   device at the same price points instead of a year old device coming down that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:45   all they did nothing to do with the price is about replacing the middle tier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:50   with a new phone rather than in one that was probably cheaper yeah I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:57   helped helped help their margin right I think yeah I think that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4437">TS</a>]

01:14:01   something yeah there's something to that where I think that the the the refined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:06   aluminum if you know if they had held the past pattern instead of the five see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:11   the five she wouldn't exist and the iPhone 5 would still be sold at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:16   point which is what the five she is in turn which also against we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:23   speculate but i found out i mean i phone 5 CBS which would be an iPhone 5s in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:31   plastic case I would like I don't know if they're going to call it a five ccs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:35   cuz it's starting to get to me the simplest thing is the 25 C drops down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:41   50 strips down and you get a 4.7 inch yeah but I kind of feel like the pattern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:46   a cent last year as they don't wanna sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   nice case are you know in the middle in the middle I do I feel like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:59   that year was a setup just to get to the point where the plastic cases on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:03   bottom level maybe could be either one of the other that's a good question good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:07   point could be about that they needed to get out one year in advance before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:11   could be could be I don't know that not so sure about I know I think it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:21   of about CMI my guess is that it's sort of about setting your expectations for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:27   which one will cost more before you even turn them on that you can look at a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:33   seed and a five a side by side while the screens are off and I think most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:37   would be able to guess which one is more expensive than the other whereas my five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:43   ask the current five ass pick your favorite color versus the iPhone 6 this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:49   4.75% sex I don't know that you'll be able to do that right if you you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:56   you just purely like bigger devices against you think this one is nicer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:59   you know if you like smaller devices you might think that the 5 S's whereas if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:05   they put the 5s internals in 2005 see style plastic case then it sets that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:10   or not that's good that's one of the things I'll be looking forward to next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:14   month or September I guess the BRIC countries know I'd I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:20   everybody said last year that they need to sell cheap iPhone for china because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:24   people in China per capita don't have a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:29   emerging markets emerging markets and I think I don't think Apple thinks there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:35   are such things as emerging markets I really don't think the way they approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:39   it is that there's people who can afford my friends and people who can't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:45   and I don't mean to be you know but the fact that the average person in China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:50   maybe can't afford an iPhone 5 see you probably can't afford iPhone see let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:56   face it doesn't mean that there aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58   millions and millions of people in China who can because there's a billion people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:03   in China the other thing they did in the spring was sad and eight gigabyte iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:09   5 see ya that's a little weird I kind of had much to do with it I can't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:19   that the difference from Apple's perspective between eight and 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   gigabytes is so much is enough to warrant that it seems my Israeli yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:29   yeah you know and a camera that can shoot high-definition and stuff it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:36   like wow that's just seems really I mean I was looking I was looking at Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/4656">TS</a>]

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01:33:00   has long had the knock against it that they charge per to higher prices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:05   that they you know they're greedy and that they make these obscene profits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:09   they charge too much for everything and that their stuff is just too expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:14   right and and some you know there are sometimes in the late nineties early two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:19   thousands were like you know pound-for-pound maybe the Mac was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:23   comfortable Mac was more expensive than comfortable PC but especially in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:28   Intel Mac era you know that's a long ago been turned around where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:33   there's been a lot of times you know to come to to get the same spec I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:37   in the Mac Pros came out last year the new ones I guess I was earlier this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:42   you know people try to configure the same type of thing from Dell and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:46   wasn't gonna come in a court case I the Mac Pro and it was way more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:49   right and and laptops to like Wilshere Apple starting laptop price is $8.99 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:56   you know there's a lot of companies that sell you know 299 399 PC laptops but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5636">TS</a>]

01:34:01   get the same specs it actually will cost more and you get a lesser build quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:05   not really fair but people have that belief and I think that when they see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:11   little things they they're viewed through that prism and here's an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:16   I was at a family thing couple of weeks ago and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:21   somebody's barbecuing region compared you know and somebody had mentioned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:28   it wasn't in the context of hey I know you you you write about Apple it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:33   just people were talking about iPhones and had nothing to do with me being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5673">TS</a>]

01:34:36   present I was just so fly on the wall wasn't you know complain to me about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:42   but it was somebody a woman who is complaining because she still had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:48   iPhone 4 or for us I don't know which one but had to 30 pin adapter thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:52   her husband had just gotten a new iPhone and his game at the lightning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:56   lightning adapter and she was like why did they do that it's just you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5696">TS</a>]

01:35:02   she and her her perspective is that they did it only to get them to buy a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:06   bunch of $29 lightning cable and that is a ripoff but her annoyance was real in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:13   terms of like now like a single charger in the kitchen doesn't work for both and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:19   it's a short-term problem I just kept my mouth shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:23   people wonder like light what is John Gruber do in that situation you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:27   what I do I just picked up my beer and I keep my mouth shut and look around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:33   make sure that my dad doesn't do some stupid and be like what John knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:38   everything about you know I'm like ready to bolt from the chair maybe go join the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:44   football game or something like that I do not want to get involved I dunno I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:48   can explain to you now you know that is you know if they don't do it then we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:55   stuck with 30 pin adapter is forever and the 30 pin adapter was actually kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:58   gross it was a weirdly unhappily type port people complained about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5758">TS</a>]

01:36:06   adapter for years but it was weird and has served them when they retire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:12   they replaced it with port that is much better in every way than 30 pin and much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:17   better in every way than micro USB it's dirty it's works up and down which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:24   amazing and annoys me even more and I have to deal with USB stuff now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:30   and you know they can either make a port that better or they can never make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:37   port and apples ways to do something better and within a few years all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:41   phones that are in use and all the iPad's erroneous will all be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:44   lightning and nobody will have that problem but I do understand it tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:47   but she is you know didn't had never even entered into her the discussion the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:52   never even occurred to her that the lightning adapter on her husband's phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:56   was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:57   was better that's the thing that she completely clearly did not see is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5817">TS</a>]

01:37:01   completely messed all she could see was that it was totally different totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:04   incompatible and therefore obviously a money grab and the thing that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:10   hurts Apple in that regard I don't think that's even enters Apple's mind at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:15   think whatever profits I think they do make a nice profit on $29 lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:19   adapters are $19 whatever they saw him for but I don't I don't think materially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:26   the day they add up to you know any significance there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:31   right but I do think there's a customer satisfaction angle on their experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:37   better right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:38   well but no but that it hurts it when you use a lightning adapter it does help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:45   your customer satisfaction and I think it you know the only device you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:49   instead it then using it instead of micro USB is why Apple's gets better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:54   scores but I do think there's a negative thing where people think they did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:58   just 22 practically steel $29 for me like I feel like maybe it they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:06   should rethink their pricing policy on things like extra doctors and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:12   margins for over again said it will hurt her problem but I feel like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:19   damage it would do their profit margins to sell things like lightning adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:24   and you know everything that they sell for $29.50 you know really drop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:33   price a lot of those things and sold them closer to cost the goodwill would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:38   be would be more valuable than whatever it would take to their profit margins is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:43   my theory now again there might be some guy at apple with a spreadsheet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:47   says otherwise shaking his head right round the numbers you're wrong and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:54   doesn't even have an office chair he just sits on the throne of hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:57   dollar bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5937">TS</a>]

01:39:03   billion dollars in cash that mountain of cash for the Joker set fire to it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:10   just sitting atop their accountant count and lightning adapter is green eye shade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:16   things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:17   but I do I think people have this I notion that Apple is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:21   out in nickel and iron and nickel and diming it's not quite nickel and diming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:26   like I do think people know that they don't you don't you know I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:31   part of the reason people are switching to Max's that you don't open your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:34   and getting tagged to buy antivirus and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:37   you open the Mac and they don't ask you to buy anything else so it's not nickel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:41   and diming it's it's something else but that it's you know that they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:46   looking for money and that the stuff is way too expensive and I think also its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:53   may be partly because they know who to blame you know the blame Apple whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:56   in the old days it was notorious that every brand of phone had a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/5996">TS</a>]

01:40:01   custom adapter for power and that if you lost it got on my tears after going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:06   the Verizon store eat into everybody's phone and show them your phone model to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:11   each model yet you can just keep saying I got a Nokia UDUB like yours might here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:16   is my phone you know and they'd be like oh you need the Xcel 47802 be $50 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:24   were crazy expensive or if you wanted to do so you know you get one if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:30   to buy a second one so you can charge your phone where you know and keep your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:33   other one at home they were super expensive way more expensive than apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:37   but I feel like when it's your carrier doing it you just don't even think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:40   complain about it cuz you know they're gonna screw where is it I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:44   feel like Apple shouldn't be screwing we had a mean we had collected so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:49   those dock connector cord that I had him lying all over the house so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:55   you could power a phone anywhere and now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:59   at Al and a low point again until a build up my inventory and somebody the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:04   other night just like a friend who lives up the street so they wanted to borrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:09   one of those cables for a week and they can have one of mine you got an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:15   one you can give him yours but I'm not part with any of mine I like him I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:23   him that much I one more thing to hear the same Ryan block and yeah I can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:40   couldn't listen to it because it just those kinds of things make me cringe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:45   haven't listened to about a million for the same reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:48   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:49   but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:51   yeah so Ryan block and Veronica Belmont to get married couple years ago and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:59   decided to cancel their Comcast service veronica was on the phone is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:07   that's doing one for the team is calling you know that's that's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:11   things where where when you're a couple when one of you decide I'll call Comcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:16   you know you you don't have to do the dishes and I and she called just to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:24   we want to cancel Comcast sir I don't know it doesn't matter I guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:27   replacing it with FiOS or something like that but number one you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6147">TS</a>]

01:42:32   pose to know what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:36   co-founder of Engadget and a host of like more tech TV shows than anybody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:44   know probably are making an informed decision to cancel Comcast and she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:50   couldn't couldn't get the guide to cancel their service and then had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:55   hand the phone over to Ryan and he started recording a call and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:58   absurd I mean if you can take things like this usually happens you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:02   just google Ryan block Veronica Belmont cancel Comcast went viral as this absurd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:11   the guides the guy was like why do you want slower internet and why won't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:18   just cancel my service is trying to understand why you want to get slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:23   internet I'm trying to understand why you won't cancel my service and it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6203">TS</a>]

01:43:33   on and on like 10 minutes long and end the thing that's great is it went viral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:36   and that is the gradual like addresses like Comcast Chief Operating Officer had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6216">TS</a>]

01:43:43   to address it and say that it was painful to listen to this call I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:47   surprised that we have been criticized respecting our customers is fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:52   and we fell short this instance I know these retention cause I guess it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:57   internal memo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6237">TS</a>]

01:43:57   public distribution is retention calls her tough and I have tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6237">TS</a>]

01:44:02   admiration for a retention professionals make it easy for customers to choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:07   stay with Comcast that's so it's actually a number of states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:14   forget where I read it probably the Verger someplace but didn't wrote about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:19   the economics behind people's jobs and basically the whole incentive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:25   compensation packages wrapped up in the number of people that they can convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:29   to stay you know I thought that I just bought it from listening to the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:34   the caller heard that the guy was into it enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:36   was clearly not just get an hour you know salary was he was invested it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:43   car salesman reversal like it's like a car salesmen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:49   like they're selling it all over again but it's weird because it's like and car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:53   salesmen I'm sure you know famous famously shady operators and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:59   sorts of tricks but it's like and I'm sure they take advantage of some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:04   who come in naive or who are timid you know tough guys right but it's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:15   we were in a car dealer you and I are going out to buy a convertible to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:19   the summer road trip and we're gonna buy convertibles you and I go in and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:24   don't like over here and we start walking out the door and the guy tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:27   to keep us from looking at the door we're still walking out the door right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:30   you can just walk you know shade is a car dealers dealer can be you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:35   can just keep your feet and eventually you are out the door and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:38   listening whereas if you are already hooked up that's the thing you're hooked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:43   up to auto bill Comcast $100 a month and even if you call your credit card and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:49   they don't pay them they're gonna put your account collection until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:53   officially disconnect you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:55   your you signed a thing that you're sending them $100 or $150 a month you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6355">TS</a>]

01:46:00   need them to do this and if they won't do it what what can you do this is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:06   rotten double-speak and Jackie Chan had posted on Twitter that a reminder that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:11   and I forget the names of these services but those services that are you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:14   people to do a task 300 yeah yeah you can you can actually call that was so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:27   you don't want to sit on the phone with you know and it just ties right in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:32   me Lincoln to the George Orwell politics and the English language to make it easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6392">TS</a>]

01:46:39   for customers to choose to stay with Comcast if that's not the most rotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:46   doublespeak I've ever heard that is so much more evil than if he just flat out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:53   said to make it difficult for customers just right is it is exactly it is likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6413">TS</a>]

01:47:06   likes 3+3 on one side and six on the other is to make it difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:12   customers to leave contest we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6432">TS</a>]

01:47:19   I do I live in Comcast country cable 10 and literally our Skype call is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:28   Creek I swear to god you can't make this up here starting this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6448">TS</a>]

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01:54:28   and they still have all this entertainment yeah stuff next they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:34   next making TV shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6874">TS</a>]

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01:54:51   shows for Apple TV and have no new Kevin Spacey show that only on Apple TV but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:56   you know what their that way lies lack of focus I'm not saying Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6896">TS</a>]

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01:55:04   you know making making TV shows was never with Microsoft is good that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6904">TS</a>]

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01:55:16   do everything to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6916">TS</a>]

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01:56:24   than expected and the stock market reacted with no reaction whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6984">TS</a>]

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01:56:36   it looked like after hours Apple was about even to I don't know if it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/6996">TS</a>]

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01:56:57   they seem to be a little bit more happy with what's going on display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/7017">TS</a>]

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01:57:51   none of these dire things have happened like margins collapsing of whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:55   everybody sort of gotten the idea that Apple could screw up you know like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/7075">TS</a>]

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01:58:25   all right john wants thank you for joining me people can find to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyCRlo0/7105">TS</a>]

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