The Incomparable

238: Caucus with the Dark Side


00:00:02   the entire little number 238 mar 2015 [TS]

00:00:13   welcome back to part two of the [TS]

00:00:15   incomparable drive-by shooting of star [TS]

00:00:19   wars episode III Revenge of the Sith i'm [TS]

00:00:23   your host Jason Snell this is part two [TS]

00:00:25   part 1 was last week if you hadn't [TS]

00:00:27   listened part1 yet you should because [TS]

00:00:29   you're missing our hour-and-a-half where [TS]

00:00:31   we talked about barely passed the crawl [TS]

00:00:33   but we've got the rest of the movie our [TS]

00:00:36   last of the prequel trilogy ready to go [TS]

00:00:40   my guests are Dan Morgan John siracusa [TS]

00:00:43   serenity Caldwell Steve let's and andy [TS]

00:00:46   and not coming can we pause on the like [TS]

00:00:48   the kitchen stuff kazoo please callprice [TS]

00:00:50   proper name [TS]

00:00:51   zoom zoom that's not a name and let's [TS]

00:00:54   talk about the the next Palpatine Anakin [TS]

00:00:57   scene which work that because that is [TS]

00:00:59   the one actually for me that's the [TS]

00:01:02   that's the scene in the movie that I [TS]

00:01:03   actually love where Anakin finds out [TS]

00:01:07   that Palpatine is a Sith Lord and that's [TS]

00:01:09   that's the only moment of betrayal that [TS]

00:01:12   sort of feels real and feels true all I [TS]

00:01:15   don't understand why he doesn't [TS]

00:01:16   immediately just you know put them in [TS]

00:01:18   shackles and walks away but don't you [TS]

00:01:20   feel like it's the scene is the scene [TS]

00:01:22   from the wrong trousers the boss and [TS]

00:01:23   ground we were faster or takes out the [TS]

00:01:25   rubber glove and and walls because I got [TS]

00:01:27   it daddy we have so you wanna sit Lord [TS]

00:01:30   but yes you'd like anna has the last one [TS]

00:01:32   of the galaxy to figure that out [TS]

00:01:34   no no one else in the galaxy is figured [TS]

00:01:36   just the audio well they should have [TS]

00:01:38   everybody should know else because [TS]

00:01:40   everybody's been hoodwinked can you tell [TS]

00:01:42   i'm a Sith Lord now how about now back [TS]

00:01:44   now how about now haha [TS]

00:01:47   there could be such a good rifftrax [TS]

00:01:48   version of the scene that we could make [TS]

00:01:50   but I really do feel like there are [TS]

00:01:52   again it's the scene itself is not [TS]

00:01:54   perfect but there are elements to the [TS]

00:01:58   the way that he slowly kind of spins out [TS]

00:02:00   who he is when he talks about Padme and [TS]

00:02:03   we talked about there are things that [TS]

00:02:04   can be done and again really praying on [TS]

00:02:07   his trust to the point where Anakin is [TS]

00:02:09   legitimately legitimately like holy crap [TS]

00:02:12   you're crazy person [TS]

00:02:13   why have I been listening to you your [TS]

00:02:15   your horrible any I must inform the Jedi [TS]

00:02:17   Council you know I'm i feel horribly [TS]

00:02:20   betrayed like this is it again a scene [TS]

00:02:23   from an alternate movie a much better [TS]

00:02:25   movie where [TS]

00:02:26   Palpatine is his mentor and his idol and [TS]

00:02:29   then all of a sudden Palpatine basically [TS]

00:02:31   in a in a way to try and help him and [TS]

00:02:34   pull him over to his worldview kind of [TS]

00:02:36   reveals too much his hand Anakin's like [TS]

00:02:38   whoa ok you know you've made my decision [TS]

00:02:41   a lot easier i'm gonna go to the Jedi [TS]

00:02:43   Council now like that that pulled me [TS]

00:02:45   into the movie and then of course the [TS]

00:02:46   whole Jedi Council saying is done [TS]

00:02:48   because a UH mechanical sensors yeah [TS]

00:02:52   they have good they have hologram google [TS]

00:02:53   hangouts though that's well i'm curious [TS]

00:02:56   what if you're going to check in [TS]

00:02:57   remotely to the Jedi Council do you have [TS]

00:02:59   to sit in a similar chair in order to [TS]

00:03:00   generate or just hollow skype [TS]

00:03:03   automatically more for you into a proper [TS]

00:03:04   comfortably seated position no that's [TS]

00:03:06   not what I started to give you something [TS]

00:03:08   like are they sitting in your same the [TS]

00:03:10   hologram is a filter are in the chairs [TS]

00:03:13   that's how it works is this is this just [TS]

00:03:15   like this that chat cam is fitted with [TS]

00:03:17   microsoft hololens like they're not [TS]

00:03:18   actually there [TS]

00:03:20   yeah that was not very nice at the [TS]

00:03:22   wookies procured a yoda sized hollow [TS]

00:03:24   chairs they did well he know his people [TS]

00:03:26   bring that along with him [TS]

00:03:28   grotius in his little almond shaped [TS]

00:03:30   spaceship yes [TS]

00:03:31   incidentally my favorite my favorite [TS]

00:03:33   quote from that second Anakin Palpatine [TS]

00:03:35   is i think is that where he says you [TS]

00:03:37   know that dark side and my first thought [TS]

00:03:39   was yeah i'm at once or twice you know [TS]

00:03:40   in a bar [TS]

00:03:41   nothing serious maybe you've heard of it [TS]

00:03:43   how does it work I'm a relief carving in [TS]

00:03:45   the background of that they're like this [TS]

00:03:47   another and another setting with it like [TS]

00:03:48   the opposite staging i thought was [TS]

00:03:50   interesting and so was them having this [TS]

00:03:52   confrontation little Dan front of that [TS]

00:03:54   in front of that carving the that this [TS]

00:03:57   that's actually the scene where I wrote [TS]

00:03:58   down the McDermott is pretty good but my [TS]

00:04:00   problem with its ready you're exactly [TS]

00:04:02   right that the issue isn't with the [TS]

00:04:03   scene [TS]

00:04:04   the issue is with you have not earned [TS]

00:04:06   that scene yet because because what we [TS]

00:04:09   want to see is Anakin feet feeling like [TS]

00:04:12   he trusts that the Chancellor and that [TS]

00:04:14   and that when he reveals to him that [TS]

00:04:16   he's a Sith Lord he already knows he's [TS]

00:04:18   come along [TS]

00:04:19   he's completely bought in instead of it [TS]

00:04:21   being like he's kind of a bumpkin who [TS]

00:04:23   needs to figure it out he should be with [TS]

00:04:25   him there and you need for him to want [TS]

00:04:27   something you need to i want something [TS]

00:04:29   impossible and believable for this big [TS]

00:04:30   notion like I had a dream a couple [TS]

00:04:32   seasons ago now [TS]

00:04:32   but totally convinced my wife is gonna [TS]

00:04:34   die and I'm also totally convinced the [TS]

00:04:35   only way I can stop her from dying is [TS]

00:04:37   going to the dark side and killing [TS]

00:04:38   children like this is nonsensical like [TS]

00:04:40   it doesn't [TS]

00:04:41   there is nothing he wants I want to [TS]

00:04:42   believe that he has been truly would and [TS]

00:04:44   he is a full-on believer in the cause [TS]

00:04:47   here and not that he's using it as a [TS]

00:04:48   means to an end and that's what it is [TS]

00:04:50   I i just think that it's so it will be [TS]

00:04:52   so much stronger if even the audience is [TS]

00:04:55   now sort of questioning that she would [TS]

00:04:57   we've always our opinion of the Jedi has [TS]

00:05:00   been formed based on the Holy trilogy [TS]

00:05:02   these two Jedi that we're familiar with [TS]

00:05:04   that are very very good people [TS]

00:05:06   what if like the rest of them are kind [TS]

00:05:08   of jerks that they that they sort of [TS]

00:05:10   came up from it would be so much easier [TS]

00:05:11   and so much more interesting as the [TS]

00:05:13   audience if it were like and Anakin is [TS]

00:05:16   like a conservative Democrat Palpatine [TS]

00:05:18   is it considered I'm sorry's of moderate [TS]

00:05:20   Democrat Party is a moderate Republican [TS]

00:05:22   where it is so easy to simply say that [TS]

00:05:26   to make that little ships well you know [TS]

00:05:28   these people have but the the people on [TS]

00:05:30   the other end of the aisle have been [TS]

00:05:31   demonized in my mind for so long [TS]

00:05:33   actually now that I understand this one [TS]

00:05:35   person and his point of view [TS]

00:05:37   maybe I should be or maybe I should be a [TS]

00:05:39   city instead of a Jedi and make us in [TS]

00:05:42   the audience think you know actually the [TS]

00:05:44   Jedi are kind of being jerks in that [TS]

00:05:46   they're still kind of unfocused and what [TS]

00:05:47   they're doing in love i love that you [TS]

00:05:49   used a political metaphor there and [TS]

00:05:51   because that's perfect i can hear [TS]

00:05:52   Palpatine saying please and can caucus [TS]

00:05:54   with my partner is a half cab and we [TS]

00:05:58   think that single pads doomed to fail [TS]

00:06:01   it's supposed to be politics in the [TS]

00:06:02   movie anyway yeah exactly use a metaphor [TS]

00:06:04   to explain it because it's so far [TS]

00:06:06   distant from actual politics that's what [TS]

00:06:08   it's actually supposed to be it's [TS]

00:06:09   supposed to actually ioa clearly see my [TS]

00:06:11   way this is a perfect place for the [TS]

00:06:13   worth of the use of death panels and yet [TS]

00:06:15   nobody even once [TS]

00:06:16   what what what I actually went to the [TS]

00:06:18   with the death panels of one of this [TS]

00:06:20   lightsaber could not cut through that [TS]

00:06:21   we're talking there those are ratios [TS]

00:06:23   close though ratio and I must go now i [TS]

00:06:26   am about to do a filibuster and I will [TS]

00:06:30   be back now he's gotta go back into his [TS]

00:06:32   office and call people for money for [TS]

00:06:33   nothing bro [TS]

00:06:34   disclosure i will be back I've got to [TS]

00:06:36   jc's pancake breakfast I actually feel [TS]

00:06:40   that it's okay that he's not wounded in [TS]

00:06:43   this scene i actually I like the fact [TS]

00:06:45   that Anakin is like I've bought into so [TS]

00:06:48   much of your bullshit and now that you [TS]

00:06:50   know now that you're actually pulling [TS]

00:06:52   back your your your hood so to speak [TS]

00:06:55   I'm actually horrified i like that you [TS]

00:06:58   know he's he's antagonistic is like I I [TS]

00:07:01   want to kill you I I need to like this [TS]

00:07:04   is this is awful i need to go away i [TS]

00:07:06   need some time to think because the [TS]

00:07:08   again that there's a scene in this movie [TS]

00:07:10   that almost works and doesn't as for [TS]

00:07:14   tiny tiny fraction of a second but [TS]

00:07:16   Palpatine is even playing here because [TS]

00:07:17   Papa Gino's this is going to be as [TS]

00:07:19   reaction wants him to go back yet go [TS]

00:07:21   back to the Jedi and set like it's he's [TS]

00:07:23   setting up the next scene which has its [TS]

00:07:24   own major problems but he is setting up [TS]

00:07:26   well the next the next scene does have [TS]

00:07:28   its major problems but this is the again [TS]

00:07:30   the the fantasy arc that i want for [TS]

00:07:32   Anakin worries like i trust Palpatine [TS]

00:07:34   Palpatine's betrayed me [TS]

00:07:36   I'm going to the Jedi Council I've given [TS]

00:07:38   this information to mace window [TS]

00:07:39   he's doing this you know he's doing this [TS]

00:07:41   and while he's doing this I start to get [TS]

00:07:43   doubts because oh god you know maybe [TS]

00:07:46   they'll kill him he's you know he is my [TS]

00:07:49   father figure I should be there and then [TS]

00:07:52   on top of that i have this worried about [TS]

00:07:53   my wife and then you have him basically [TS]

00:07:56   they're witnessing mace basically [TS]

00:07:59   threatening to do what he was afraid of [TS]

00:08:01   and in impure in anger in shock and like [TS]

00:08:05   in I don't know what to do he ends up [TS]

00:08:08   killing one of the greatest Jedi Masters [TS]

00:08:10   alive [TS]

00:08:11   that's the interesting thing though it's [TS]

00:08:13   like if if you want to build that like [TS]

00:08:15   in my in my fantasy universe and it can [TS]

00:08:18   swap to the dark side is basically his [TS]

00:08:20   complete and utter horror at i have [TS]

00:08:23   fought like in a in a freak reaction [TS]

00:08:26   I've given up all of my dread I training [TS]

00:08:28   by killing this person and now i have i [TS]

00:08:30   have sunk to the very lowest of the low [TS]

00:08:32   and i don't know what to do with myself [TS]

00:08:34   and I'm I'm completely shattered human [TS]

00:08:37   being [TS]

00:08:37   emergent over the line and now there's [TS]

00:08:39   no way back exactly there [TS]

00:08:40   the Jedi Council could never take me [TS]

00:08:42   back what would ob1 think of me I have [TS]

00:08:44   no what like what would Padme think of [TS]

00:08:46   me I I [TS]

00:08:47   don't know what to do i'm like if that [TS]

00:08:50   is that is what i want and you get you [TS]

00:08:52   get hints of it here in there you get [TS]

00:08:54   hints of it in the previous scene and [TS]

00:08:55   you get hints of it in the mace windu [TS]

00:08:57   scene but then it all goes crazy because [TS]

00:08:59   then he's like all right now I am upon i [TS]

00:09:01   Ave you master forever i will be dark [TS]

00:09:04   dark vader like it's bought it swaps way [TS]

00:09:06   to lose weight too quickly but that's [TS]

00:09:07   the movie i want but even the character [TS]

00:09:10   came out of that you that was the movie [TS]

00:09:11   that was there like the darth vader that [TS]

00:09:13   came out of that it's like I've now gone [TS]

00:09:15   too far I've made this terrible mistake [TS]

00:09:17   and the Jedi will never take me back so [TS]

00:09:18   I'm forced to go to the side that is not [TS]

00:09:20   the the invader from a new hope you have [TS]

00:09:23   a new hope is confident with it that [TS]

00:09:25   he's doing what is necessary like he's a [TS]

00:09:28   company man he is not like I've made a [TS]

00:09:30   terrible mistake anam an outcast and I [TS]

00:09:31   have to hang out with these losers he [TS]

00:09:33   doesn't regret you know this is why you [TS]

00:09:35   know so as long as we're talking fantasy [TS]

00:09:36   versus this is this is why in my version [TS]

00:09:38   of this i want to see the story where [TS]

00:09:41   you actually split this into and you do [TS]

00:09:43   the fall of Anakin Skywalker as you're [TS]

00:09:45   doing the rise of darth vader darth [TS]

00:09:47   vader operating from the shadows no one [TS]

00:09:49   knows who this new Sith apprentices and [TS]

00:09:51   you can actually do that in such a way [TS]

00:09:53   that you can kind of maintain the the [TS]

00:09:55   big reveal in Empire Strikes Back at [TS]

00:09:57   that point because if you believe that [TS]

00:09:59   the end of this movie not to get too far [TS]

00:10:01   ahead in the third act but if you [TS]

00:10:02   believe at the end of this movie that [TS]

00:10:03   obi-wan is essentially let Anakin [TS]

00:10:05   Skywalker died and that you know most [TS]

00:10:07   people are in the dark as to Anakin [TS]

00:10:09   Skywalker is Darth Vader there's still [TS]

00:10:11   compelling interesting story to be told [TS]

00:10:13   there and we have an interesting reveal [TS]

00:10:14   later on where you know we think you [TS]

00:10:17   know it's kind of a double fake out [TS]

00:10:19   because if we think that obi-wan is [TS]

00:10:20   essentially caused Anakin Skywalker to [TS]

00:10:22   die then we're watching you know [TS]

00:10:24   episodes of four and five with this [TS]

00:10:25   whole different mindset like oh my god [TS]

00:10:27   obi-wan is lying to him about Darth [TS]

00:10:28   Vader killing his dad because actually [TS]

00:10:30   it was only one who killed his dad so [TS]

00:10:32   it's kind of like makes a great red [TS]

00:10:34   herring track there and I think you know [TS]

00:10:36   by having this as John pointed out you [TS]

00:10:37   know Darth Vader supposed to be a [TS]

00:10:38   willing participant in this so this [TS]

00:10:41   doesn't really sell in some way but if [TS]

00:10:42   you have the idea instead that the [TS]

00:10:43   Emperor's trying to sort of extend his [TS]

00:10:45   tendrils throughout it's entirely [TS]

00:10:47   plausible that you would he's got like [TS]

00:10:48   you know we've already seen three or [TS]

00:10:50   four different apprentices for him right [TS]

00:10:51   so you know if we've already got this [TS]

00:10:53   idea that maybe he would have developed [TS]

00:10:55   you know Anakin and sort of slowly [TS]

00:10:56   rather than having this cataclysmic [TS]

00:10:58   event [TS]

00:10:59   during the rise of Darth Vader with the [TS]

00:11:00   fall of the republic if Vader is sort of [TS]

00:11:02   like seduced over before then and we [TS]

00:11:05   sort of see him you know appearing in [TS]

00:11:07   the armor or in like a mask or something [TS]

00:11:09   that be straight trying to conceal his [TS]

00:11:11   identity and maintain this dual life and [TS]

00:11:13   feeling maybe you know not necessarily [TS]

00:11:15   conflicted but essentially trying to [TS]

00:11:17   hide from his wife and his friend what [TS]

00:11:19   he is doing even though he believes it [TS]

00:11:20   to be something that he needs to do like [TS]

00:11:22   I think there's a far more compelling [TS]

00:11:23   story there but that doesn't exist [TS]

00:11:26   I think that would be really interesting [TS]

00:11:27   with the exception of I don't think that [TS]

00:11:29   he would ever kill children in that all [TS]

00:11:31   that that's a whole separate yet seen is [TS]

00:11:33   pointless property and cycling through [TS]

00:11:35   Sith Lords like that's kind of like a [TS]

00:11:36   running gag in his mouth yeah he goes on [TS]

00:11:39   too many sick days but he can't make him [TS]

00:11:40   stay [TS]

00:11:41   that's that's something that I really [TS]

00:11:43   wondered about because is this a case of [TS]

00:11:45   musical chairs where Darth Vader became [TS]

00:11:47   is the Emperor's right hand for 30 years [TS]

00:11:49   simply because he was told he was the [TS]

00:11:51   one left standing when he thought I'll [TS]

00:11:53   or was laying down for an hour or was it [TS]

00:11:56   or was it because Palpatine actually saw [TS]

00:11:59   something in Anakin that he actually [TS]

00:12:02   liked and respected saying that there's [TS]

00:12:04   something I'm going to trust to be my [TS]

00:12:06   again my fist throughout the galaxy [TS]

00:12:09   this is the guy that I really want by my [TS]

00:12:11   side when you finally going to discuss [TS]

00:12:13   your legs guys the biggest dope this bit [TS]

00:12:15   of the biggest cornhusk I've ever seen [TS]

00:12:17   I've listed the issue right is that is [TS]

00:12:19   that the the prequel trilogy Anakin you [TS]

00:12:22   think Palpatine chosen because he's a [TS]

00:12:24   convenient sucker [TS]

00:12:26   whereas the original trilogy Darth Vader [TS]

00:12:28   you think oh well he's the right hand [TS]

00:12:31   because he's a he's a badass right but [TS]

00:12:33   they don't connect they don't and like [TS]

00:12:35   the whole idea is that the city like it [TS]

00:12:36   it's the dynamically this presented the [TS]

00:12:38   movies should be like that it's the [TS]

00:12:40   strongest one and he also picks a strong [TS]

00:12:42   as one and the other strong one [TS]

00:12:43   eventually overthrows that one like the [TS]

00:12:45   cycle repeats like it's you're trying to [TS]

00:12:46   breed stronger and stronger since you're [TS]

00:12:48   never going to pick a soccer because [TS]

00:12:50   like why would you pick a sucker and [TS]

00:12:51   went because you would always want the [TS]

00:12:53   super powerful one and he has two he has [TS]

00:12:55   to believe in the cause he has to be [TS]

00:12:58   willing to like there can't be any the [TS]

00:13:00   whole you know there is no conflict with [TS]

00:13:01   the only time this there should be [TS]

00:13:03   conflict invaders at the very end when [TS]

00:13:04   Luke regimes and everybody's up that [TS]

00:13:06   baby's got to be totally convinced of [TS]

00:13:07   what he's doing is the right thing and [TS]

00:13:09   you know [TS]

00:13:10   it was kind of a shame when his wife [TS]

00:13:12   died or was killed or however you want [TS]

00:13:14   to happen but this is what the Galaxy [TS]

00:13:16   needs like a dress that might address on [TS]

00:13:18   this moment other than that you know if [TS]

00:13:20   we go with the I create I created you [TS]

00:13:22   using midi-chlorians you're my perfect [TS]

00:13:25   you should be disappointed I created you [TS]

00:13:27   and yours three dom medical reasons [TS]

00:13:29   don't work i picked a random slave woman [TS]

00:13:32   on Tatooine why I don't know the [TS]

00:13:34   universe makes those joy is I created [TS]

00:13:36   you and I wanted Michael but I got [TS]

00:13:38   freedom I created you and I cannot [TS]

00:13:39   create you [TS]

00:13:40   let's go back to the real movie and I'm [TS]

00:13:43   your only witness a fantasy movie we're [TS]

00:13:44   gonna go back we're gonna go to Kashi [TS]

00:13:46   core as we like to call it kazoo kazoo [TS]

00:13:48   my the wookies are there my kids were [TS]

00:13:51   watching at this point in there like AI [TS]

00:13:52   remember this level from lego star wars [TS]

00:13:54   so there's that [TS]

00:13:55   it's now been at this point nearly 30 [TS]

00:13:57   minutes without a damn thing happening [TS]

00:13:59   in the movie now and Steve to your point [TS]

00:14:01   my note says 45 minutes in what is [TS]

00:14:03   happening nothing is happening but then [TS]

00:14:05   something happens for about 30 seconds [TS]

00:14:07   and then nothing happens again yeah I [TS]

00:14:08   think it's a really clever idea I i [TS]

00:14:10   suspect that they are invading keshiki [TS]

00:14:13   Ron life day because they're going to [TS]

00:14:14   cash-strapped school keys off guard [TS]

00:14:17   there is a big tree back in the [TS]

00:14:18   background looks like it could be [TS]

00:14:19   Chewbacca's tree it's possible we hear a [TS]

00:14:22   really super cheesy Tarzan sound felt [TS]

00:14:25   like that's the worst thing in the movie [TS]

00:14:26   another riff 2 episode 6 which in that [TS]

00:14:30   case yes also still kind of a dump truck [TS]

00:14:32   super cheesy and we want talk to some [TS]

00:14:36   clothes and takes off and yeah General [TS]

00:14:40   Grievous is there at my notes at this [TS]

00:14:42   point break down to this is all just [TS]

00:14:44   nonsensical we show up but everything [TS]

00:14:46   that happens in this movie is we show up [TS]

00:14:48   at a random planet and then there's a [TS]

00:14:50   plot thread and a fight that you have [TS]

00:14:53   that you got the work is all behind [TS]

00:14:54   their barrier and then once the thing [TS]

00:14:55   start laying on the beach they'll jump [TS]

00:14:56   over the barrier and then run down the [TS]

00:14:58   beach to be shot at yeah I really like [TS]

00:15:00   that uh obi-wan decides he needs to be [TS]

00:15:02   really sneaky and so his choice get some [TS]

00:15:04   reason to do that is to get on a giant [TS]

00:15:05   list her rocker how ya feelin no [TS]

00:15:07   senators yes John and I have the same [TS]

00:15:09   notes it's a giant lizard that makes a [TS]

00:15:11   loud high-pitched north and after if [TS]

00:15:14   you're gonna spy on people are you [TS]

00:15:17   losers feathers your pad my ride that [TS]

00:15:19   desert my follow-up notice seems like a [TS]

00:15:21   dumb plan obi-wan I like that the stupid [TS]

00:15:23   Trade Federation guys are around [TS]

00:15:25   actually sort of i was like oh yeah [TS]

00:15:27   those guide nute Gunray alright remember [TS]

00:15:30   when you thought he was going to be [TS]

00:15:31   really important i like when obi-wan [TS]

00:15:32   drops the big thing on and smooches the [TS]

00:15:34   droids I thought that was I thought that [TS]

00:15:36   was okay [TS]

00:15:37   General Grievous gets his this is the [TS]

00:15:38   most awesome christmas toy every moment [TS]

00:15:40   where he's got the forearms and the spin [TS]

00:15:43   light sabers i wrote down he seems [TS]

00:15:44   Grievous seems like a little kids idea [TS]

00:15:47   like you know what would be awesome if [TS]

00:15:48   it is a robot with foodstuffs entire [TS]

00:15:51   trilogy jumps into a little car wheel [TS]

00:15:54   and spins around the world and the [TS]

00:15:55   Condor wheel has legs also my favorite [TS]

00:15:58   part of that fight is the bit where [TS]

00:15:59   they're fighting on the random platform [TS]

00:16:01   with the uShip in the back like the [TS]

00:16:03   Starfighter there which is expressly set [TS]

00:16:05   up so that when obi-wan has to escape [TS]

00:16:07   later there's a Starfighter that he [TS]

00:16:09   knows exists also bangs head on once i [TS]

00:16:11   think for some reason pinhead shows up [TS]

00:16:14   in this movie at this point yes meet [TS]

00:16:16   obi-wan on he's got the same robe he's [TS]

00:16:18   got the same head and everything I did [TS]

00:16:20   like that i noticed this time around [TS]

00:16:21   having watched this and again watching [TS]

00:16:24   Star Wars rebels in like oh it's the [TS]

00:16:25   same races the Inquisitor and sure [TS]

00:16:27   enough it's i sent a plot to destroy the [TS]

00:16:29   Jedi that is the worst line in this [TS]

00:16:31   movie I'm gonna put that one [TS]

00:16:33   I'm sorry there are a lot of bad lungs [TS]

00:16:34   but like I i I'd the worst line has yet [TS]

00:16:36   to call the worst line is at the end it [TS]

00:16:38   someone gave him pages to the script [TS]

00:16:39   there's like is if I flip ahead few [TS]

00:16:41   pages i sense a plot to destroy the Jedi [TS]

00:16:43   so we do see nute Gunray again at this [TS]

00:16:45   point of all the freakin characters to [TS]

00:16:47   last through all three pre I know what I [TS]

00:16:49   was happy to see nute Gunray honestly [TS]

00:16:51   not Darth Maul but nope nute Gunray he's [TS]

00:16:54   the guy you remove you remember him from [TS]

00:16:56   that terrible first scene of the [TS]

00:16:57   terrible first movie is so terrible [TS]

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00:18:31   ok let's resume the beating of Star Wars [TS]

00:18:34   had a couple comments of the obi-wan [TS]

00:18:36   Grievous fight one that obi-wan is dumb [TS]

00:18:38   enough to try and box him which seems [TS]

00:18:40   really dumb idea when any metal well [TS]

00:18:42   they do show him kicking him and hurting [TS]

00:18:44   a shin so i gave the arms up to that to [TS]

00:18:46   his bad robot designed to have your [TS]

00:18:48   heart only protected by a couple panels [TS]

00:18:49   and not like you know a solid light box [TS]

00:18:52   made out of carbonite but i do think [TS]

00:18:54   that his death is kind of cool and I do [TS]

00:18:56   like that obi-wan shoot him with our [TS]

00:18:58   last er yeah i gotta dig that will be [TS]

00:19:00   one spends a lot of time hanging off the [TS]

00:19:02   edge of things and its really good guys [TS]

00:19:04   I guess it's barely on his feet [TS]

00:19:06   the the really depressing thing about [TS]

00:19:08   this fight is like for lightsabers [TS]

00:19:10   should be a really freaking cool fight [TS]

00:19:13   like it really should [TS]

00:19:14   well I cool when he first deploys it [TS]

00:19:16   well it is except for the fact that then [TS]

00:19:18   anything moves so fast yeah and isn't [TS]

00:19:21   again the medium the medium to close [TS]

00:19:23   shot that you can't tell what the heck's [TS]

00:19:25   going on it's just light everywhere [TS]

00:19:28   there's light and not actually fighting [TS]

00:19:30   or choreography or interesting [TS]

00:19:33   yeah can like we're terrible [TS]

00:19:35   choreography someone online told me as [TS]

00:19:36   like as I was watching this and tweeting [TS]

00:19:38   about it someone like episode one has [TS]

00:19:39   the best fight scenes I'm like you know [TS]

00:19:40   what [TS]

00:19:40   that's true it has much better fighter [TS]

00:19:42   than any of the rest of the movies [TS]

00:19:44   well I don't know where their stunt [TS]

00:19:45   coordinator went but like yeah [TS]

00:19:47   apparently they it was rape [TS]

00:19:48   unfortunately when they cut our [TS]

00:19:49   townhouse [TS]

00:19:50   they also car trailer park in half and [TS]

00:19:52   he's like nope can't work for you guys [TS]

00:19:53   anymore sorry we have another instance [TS]

00:19:55   here of obi-wan dropping his freaking [TS]

00:19:57   lightsaber again ya feel it mr. said yes [TS]

00:20:01   the wii remote strap but he does have [TS]

00:20:03   the he that allows him to shoot groups [TS]

00:20:06   with a blaster which is it is a kind of [TS]

00:20:08   cool moment because that's the a han [TS]

00:20:09   Solo away thousands of multiple times in [TS]

00:20:12   the chest and road flare shoot out of [TS]

00:20:15   his eyes [TS]

00:20:16   yep it's clear that he has no longer at [TS]

00:20:18   this point so why he's coughing I still [TS]

00:20:20   don't know our IP general his weak point [TS]

00:20:23   the lines so uncivilized got a half [TS]

00:20:26   laughs out of me [TS]

00:20:26   yeah i mean it never was ok but you know [TS]

00:20:30   I get I think I that that fight scene is [TS]

00:20:32   final but we don't really care that much [TS]

00:20:33   about Grievous we do kind of care but we [TS]

00:20:35   want because you're Gregory abused him [TS]

00:20:37   with some sense of humanity a little [TS]

00:20:40   charm [TS]

00:20:40   yeah okay so the Jedi come to get [TS]

00:20:46   Palpatine and this is a fight that I [TS]

00:20:50   think I think John you talk about this [TS]

00:20:52   on the talk show this is this is a fight [TS]

00:20:54   where Russian many Jedi died very very [TS]

00:20:57   very quickly and then there's a battle [TS]

00:21:01   between Mace Windu and and Papa team i [TS]

00:21:04   want to point out my my biggest beef [TS]

00:21:06   with this entire movie starts here and [TS]

00:21:10   that is that from this point on which is [TS]

00:21:12   it at one hour and eight minutes right [TS]

00:21:13   at the end of the grievous battle not a [TS]

00:21:15   single positive thing happens in this [TS]

00:21:17   film it is just relentlessly bleak [TS]

00:21:20   there's there's nothing fun whatsoever [TS]

00:21:22   there is no minor victories there's no [TS]

00:21:24   comic relief not even of the you know we [TS]

00:21:27   don't even have money or sutra do dat [TS]

00:21:29   no Monica its there's nothing in it it [TS]

00:21:32   seems like you know the chips were down [TS]

00:21:34   an empire for a lot of it but there were [TS]

00:21:35   still these little minor victories and [TS]

00:21:37   there's that you know the escape from [TS]

00:21:38   best been and all that stuff going on [TS]

00:21:41   there are people to root for those Steve [TS]

00:21:43   that's the thing there's someone to root [TS]

00:21:44   for and hope that they survive in this [TS]

00:21:45   case who do you want to survive that [TS]

00:21:47   should lessen the pain not not make it [TS]

00:21:49   worse haha but the fact is i mean even [TS]

00:21:51   though i don't care about these people I [TS]

00:21:53   still I just dread watching the rest of [TS]

00:21:55   this movie because nothing good is going [TS]

00:21:57   to happen it's just going to be crap [TS]

00:21:58   fest after crapfest and you know it's [TS]

00:22:02   just that's not what i wanted my happy [TS]

00:22:04   funtime space adventure movie I i have [TS]

00:22:06   to say the scene where Anakin tells mace [TS]

00:22:08   windu i just learned a terrible truth a [TS]

00:22:10   terrible line i expect them to break [TS]

00:22:13   into song a little bit did mace windu [TS]

00:22:15   seems really unsurprised by like a crap [TS]

00:22:17   Molly better go arrest him and I wanted [TS]

00:22:19   to samuel jackson be like mother that's [TS]

00:22:22   right but he doesn't seem like he knows [TS]

00:22:25   what to do with this rolls it's like [TS]

00:22:26   that it's likely out they cast Sam [TS]

00:22:28   Jackson and I asked him to act out of [TS]

00:22:30   character be not Sam Jackson for this [TS]

00:22:32   review please be anybody but Samuel [TS]

00:22:34   Jackson will put you in the movie [TS]

00:22:35   because you want to be in star wars but [TS]

00:22:37   we're not going to let you be will give [TS]

00:22:39   you a great fight scene at the end but [TS]

00:22:40   you're gonna shave your eyebrows and [TS]

00:22:42   make you say has some range if you've [TS]

00:22:44   seen him another dramatic roles he has [TS]

00:22:45   rain she can be downtrodden he could be [TS]

00:22:47   he could become he could be some he's [TS]

00:22:49   better as Nick Fury thousand allowed [TS]

00:22:51   John he's better in the capital one card [TS]

00:22:53   commercial but this was very I think it [TS]

00:22:57   was very much riffing on with buzzes was [TS]

00:22:59   his role in the jackie brown before this [TS]

00:23:02   are after this because I'd really think [TS]

00:23:04   that's the most similar character to [TS]

00:23:05   what he was doing his mace windu that's [TS]

00:23:07   the guy who mourn for they will [TS]

00:23:08   definitely be a blow your head off or [TS]

00:23:10   cut you're cut your lightsaber arm off [TS]

00:23:12   but will also like will stop and think [TS]

00:23:15   and figure things out [TS]

00:23:16   he doesn't think very hard he says [TS]

00:23:18   things like it's really dangerous to put [TS]

00:23:19   Anakin and Palpatine together mere [TS]

00:23:22   seconds after he's just done it [TS]

00:23:24   yeah well though don't play myspace [TS]

00:23:27   window for the words that he was forced [TS]

00:23:29   to say that but by contract once again [TS]

00:23:32   the the Emperor betters window fight is [TS]

00:23:34   also really terrible it's it's very slow [TS]

00:23:38   and ponderous in some ways and there's a [TS]

00:23:40   huge reliance on the in McDermott's [TS]

00:23:42   w-why jumping and flipping all over the [TS]

00:23:44   place never doesn't look stupid like any [TS]

00:23:48   scene where any of the Jedi do that like [TS]

00:23:50   with Christopher Lee Orion McDermott [TS]

00:23:52   anyone know you're not able to do that [TS]

00:23:54   and yet it has to do the like jumping [TS]

00:23:57   around and barrel rolling and spinning [TS]

00:23:58   it's like it never looks good [TS]

00:24:01   it's a crappy fight we should have [TS]

00:24:02   desperately trying to get the high [TS]

00:24:04   ground down [TS]

00:24:04   yeah so that's a question that came up [TS]

00:24:07   on the talk show about the scene as the [TS]

00:24:09   essential question is is palpitating [TS]

00:24:10   sandbag is he intentionally could he [TS]

00:24:13   have killed mace windu easily yeah but [TS]

00:24:15   worse than forced himself to now I don't [TS]

00:24:17   think that's clear from the movie i [TS]

00:24:19   don't think it's entirely clear because [TS]

00:24:20   Mace Windu is put up is kind of like the [TS]

00:24:22   most powerful Jedi and he you know it's [TS]

00:24:25   unstoppable or whatever and you know it [TS]

00:24:27   is is this gambit by palpating to say [TS]

00:24:30   I'm gonna make it look like I'm about to [TS]

00:24:31   die when really I'm not just for us [TS]

00:24:33   Anakin to kill makes to bring over my [TS]

00:24:34   side or was helping actually a little [TS]

00:24:38   bit overwhelmed actually need and can to [TS]

00:24:40   save him but knew that he would I think [TS]

00:24:41   public is terrible acting answers that [TS]

00:24:43   question ago [TS]

00:24:44   oh I'm so we have to really soon we get [TS]

00:24:47   that in that point he looks like he's [TS]

00:24:49   sandbagging but all the previous points [TS]

00:24:50   it looks like you're being legitimately [TS]

00:24:52   beaten and if Anakin wasn't there to [TS]

00:24:54   save you and like and then of course the [TS]

00:24:56   problematic bars that may sighs I know [TS]

00:24:58   we've got to kill him despite the fact [TS]

00:25:00   that i totally don't do that you have to [TS]

00:25:02   do it for purposes of the plot so you'll [TS]

00:25:03   kill me whatever well because he is so [TS]

00:25:05   powerful that I don't think I'll ever [TS]

00:25:07   have command came killed the guy 20 [TS]

00:25:09   minutes ago [TS]

00:25:10   my argument is that is that Palpatine is [TS]

00:25:12   trying to stay clean and beat Windu with [TS]

00:25:15   lightsabers and all that and then in the [TS]

00:25:17   end he get he uses the force lightning [TS]

00:25:19   and gets all super wrinkly and goes like [TS]

00:25:21   he taps the final thing he needs is [TS]

00:25:23   always been standing part is like well [TS]

00:25:25   if he was if he was sandbagging why [TS]

00:25:27   would he have ruined his face that badly [TS]

00:25:29   she's like okay that never makes sense [TS]

00:25:31   to me anyways there's no explanation of [TS]

00:25:33   what causes that's little to make him [TS]

00:25:35   look like he does in the other movie yes [TS]

00:25:37   I know [TS]

00:25:37   so Tom yeah I'm all wrinkly now but [TS]

00:25:40   that's oh I it was just an injury that [TS]

00:25:42   but was it that's what that's why I [TS]

00:25:44   think he wasn't sandbagging because you [TS]

00:25:45   wouldn't let that happen to you but [TS]

00:25:46   basically the bottom line is i think its [TS]

00:25:48   poor moving making that we can't tell [TS]

00:25:50   what the clearly intention was [TS]

00:25:53   with sandbags when Anakin walks in and [TS]

00:25:55   this car and has conned by the Emperor [TS]

00:25:57   into believing that this is a terrible [TS]

00:25:58   Jedi plot does he miss the like pile of [TS]

00:26:01   dead Jedi bodies events in the entryway [TS]

00:26:04   criticism a skilled them to businesses [TS]

00:26:07   just got nuts now he's killing [TS]

00:26:08   everything that's a terrible Jedi plot [TS]

00:26:10   but if the Jedi have come to assassinate [TS]

00:26:11   him he's probably gonna fight back [TS]

00:26:13   no it's a terrible Jedi plot in the [TS]

00:26:14   sense that it's just a really bad plan [TS]

00:26:16   why did he bring the worst three idiot [TS]

00:26:18   Jedi with him to take hunt Appetit those [TS]

00:26:21   guys go down so fast what those whose [TS]

00:26:23   available Jedi just stand there and get [TS]

00:26:25   stabbed yeah the rest of my Holograms [TS]

00:26:27   did you Jedi are supposed to have some [TS]

00:26:29   level of like danger sense right it [TS]

00:26:31   might be able to tell when battle craps [TS]

00:26:33   about to happen not in this case where [TS]

00:26:34   they all get some merrily despatched the [TS]

00:26:36   poor Jenna to get killed on the flower [TS]

00:26:38   planet she just raises her arms in the [TS]

00:26:40   air and he has to the ground it's like [TS]

00:26:41   the worst death ever on these three guys [TS]

00:26:44   are supposed to be like Windows guard [TS]

00:26:46   and they go down like the the battle [TS]

00:26:47   droids know they like that the enemies [TS]

00:26:50   in a ninja movies like a one-at-a-time [TS]

00:26:51   they just throw themselves onto the in [TS]

00:26:53   yours their minions the only have one [TS]

00:26:55   hit point oh that's okay just go right [TS]

00:26:57   down there have been only one of them [TS]

00:26:59   then i will say that this scene makes me [TS]

00:27:02   sad because it again out so much stuff [TS]

00:27:04   that's like brought in from the baggage [TS]

00:27:06   of the clone wars series but there are [TS]

00:27:07   characters here that i actually grew to [TS]

00:27:10   give a quick give a crap about because [TS]

00:27:12   of the clone war series like the most [TS]

00:27:14   damning thing to me in this entire thing [TS]

00:27:15   is when you know obi-wan's clone buddy [TS]

00:27:18   Cody tried to have me killed and [TS]

00:27:20   Commander Cody is a great character in [TS]

00:27:22   the series was like steadfast and always [TS]

00:27:24   by his side and like the scenes the [TS]

00:27:26   clone more episodes that deal with the [TS]

00:27:27   whole like loans being programmed to [TS]

00:27:29   essentially accept this order and kill [TS]

00:27:31   Jedi is super creepy and done really [TS]

00:27:34   well because to in those cases it's [TS]

00:27:36   always like they're sort of fighting [TS]

00:27:38   against it and they don't realize that [TS]

00:27:39   they've been programmed for this one it [TS]

00:27:41   just seems like they knew all along and [TS]

00:27:42   their back pocket like up time to shoot [TS]

00:27:44   this guy the clones are characterized at [TS]

00:27:46   all in this entire previous series like [TS]

00:27:48   their characters in the clone war CD [TS]

00:27:50   series and this is what Roy they were [TS]

00:27:52   Stormtroopers they might as well have [TS]

00:27:53   their helmet on because they look at [TS]

00:27:54   them and they're not really characters [TS]

00:27:55   anyway so just the morning father I mean [TS]

00:27:57   I think Lucas was afraid to make [TS]

00:27:59   characters that would die that people [TS]

00:28:00   would be worried about right like story [TS]

00:28:02   several little kids but Master Yoda [TS]

00:28:06   yeah mine somewhere between episode 2 [TS]

00:28:07   and three coon guys to poor bloke une I [TS]

00:28:10   loved him so [TS]

00:28:11   Mace Windu dies and we get the crowning [TS]

00:28:14   of of Darth Vader that you shall be [TS]

00:28:16   known as let me check my relatives they [TS]

00:28:19   did not maybe it was coming up we just [TS]

00:28:21   had Darth Darth wacky white names [TS]

00:28:23   haven't used yet dot fuzzy socks i was [TS]

00:28:26   literally gone in alphabetical order em [TS]

00:28:29   all [TS]

00:28:29   torana sabado yes that when I really [TS]

00:28:32   liked that was going to be for my third [TS]

00:28:33   child when we have darker anus but I [TS]

00:28:35   think we'll skip that go good to the [TS]

00:28:37   Jedi Temple do what must be done lord [TS]

00:28:39   Vader and this is what I wrote in my [TS]

00:28:41   notes are that are we now to believe [TS]

00:28:44   that his visions of POD maze death might [TS]

00:28:47   actually just be fake put in his mind by [TS]

00:28:50   Palpatine because he seems to do it all [TS]

00:28:53   because of POD may so that would be I [TS]

00:28:57   just saying maybe that's the one that [TS]

00:28:59   that's another in a better movie like [TS]

00:29:01   this is exactly so I am so proud every [TS]

00:29:03   time I and every time I'm watching this [TS]

00:29:05   movie and I'm thinking always this of [TS]

00:29:08   sophisticated isn't the subtle and then [TS]

00:29:10   I think of no this is not the now I've [TS]

00:29:12   seen the thing that was on this movie [TS]

00:29:14   this is not the fingerprint of someone [TS]

00:29:15   who's thinking that people also please [TS]

00:29:17   execute order 66 I've given you a list [TS]

00:29:20   of orders from 1 to 60 61 being the best [TS]

00:29:23   66 being the most evil order 65 was just [TS]

00:29:26   to get him lunch [TS]

00:29:27   they're not really in priority order [TS]

00:29:28   don't forget 57 which is to pick up my [TS]

00:29:31   spike business but it's interesting that [TS]

00:29:34   he only has to say execute order 66 to [TS]

00:29:37   like one-third of the clones and the [TS]

00:29:39   rest of them you know the lead clone can [TS]

00:29:41   just turn them in knot and they know [TS]

00:29:42   exactly what ya don't ya lol but has a [TS]

00:29:44   secret program oh yeah [TS]

00:29:46   420 so here's here's where it becomes [TS]

00:29:48   even dumber that the stormtroopers are [TS]

00:29:50   apparently clones because it's clear [TS]

00:29:51   here that these clones can actually hit [TS]

00:29:53   somebody with a blaster [TS]

00:29:54   yeah well they call them off django fat [TS]

00:29:57   and should be able to get something the [TS]

00:29:59   other fields that there's something bad [TS]

00:30:01   going on and he stopped something never [TS]

00:30:02   trust clones that's the lesson we've [TS]

00:30:04   learned here never trust a clown yet [TS]

00:30:06   jodoli says danger sense it's not so [TS]

00:30:08   easy to just walk up and kill you too [TS]

00:30:09   apparently ok so that was my to board my [TS]

00:30:11   to notice about this one of them is how [TS]

00:30:13   do none of the Jedi survived except Yoda [TS]

00:30:15   nobody won all the rest of the world [TS]

00:30:17   that bad [TS]

00:30:18   they're terrible you know why would they [TS]

00:30:19   are made to look they're made to look [TS]

00:30:21   incompetent these characters you know [TS]

00:30:22   who are like sitting around the joint [TS]

00:30:24   account let's remember this this is sort [TS]

00:30:26   of proven false because they they have [TS]

00:30:28   this whole like actions quote actual [TS]

00:30:30   quote sequence which they got to get [TS]

00:30:32   back into the temple to turn on the [TS]

00:30:33   budget to modify the beacon so its [TS]

00:30:35   warning Jedi not to come not to come [TS]

00:30:37   back [TS]

00:30:38   which kind of indicates that they know [TS]

00:30:40   there are others out there and just [TS]

00:30:41   whatever whatever it is we're with tear [TS]

00:30:44   up your membership cards definitely [TS]

00:30:45   gonna be no more meetings can stop [TS]

00:30:48   making lightsabers to pick up a pickup [TS]

00:30:50   farm implements you are now in the [TS]

00:30:52   you're now the SC business you're going [TS]

00:30:54   to get started general Starr on the [TS]

00:30:56   outer rim and just don't tell anybody [TS]

00:30:57   about your past or started started a [TS]

00:30:59   diner fifties diner maybe a cloner you [TS]

00:31:02   got a lot of options [TS]

00:31:03   the only reason i buy order 66 is the [TS]

00:31:06   Jedi that were seen primarily are flying [TS]

00:31:10   and otherwise working with clones that [TS]

00:31:12   presumably they trust all of the people [TS]

00:31:14   we show again we don't know just from [TS]

00:31:17   watching this movie who they are but [TS]

00:31:18   with clone wars back here you know [TS]

00:31:20   backstory and all of that these are all [TS]

00:31:22   fairly prominent Jedi leaders who have [TS]

00:31:24   been working you know working on the [TS]

00:31:26   front lines for the war so all of them [TS]

00:31:28   presumably have clone troopers that they [TS]

00:31:30   know and they trust and they've worked [TS]

00:31:32   with so it's more it should be damning [TS]

00:31:34   right it should be my you know who i [TS]

00:31:37   thought had my back have now shot me in [TS]

00:31:39   the back and I feel like a betrayal [TS]

00:31:41   it is exactly it's a complete complete [TS]

00:31:43   and total betrayal and that is why the [TS]

00:31:45   Jedi fall so easily who are in sort of [TS]

00:31:47   our are in turn around the clone [TS]

00:31:49   troopers is that they don't expect it [TS]

00:31:51   and they don't you know and they've been [TS]

00:31:53   blinded by either Palpatine superpower [TS]

00:31:55   or just hubris to not think that they [TS]

00:31:59   might get hurt [TS]

00:32:00   I i did think that was really cool it's [TS]

00:32:04   sort of like oh my coma that's like [TS]

00:32:05   imagine our country where it's like oh [TS]

00:32:07   my god there's like a really really [TS]

00:32:09   horrible we're being invaded [TS]

00:32:10   don't worry each one of the Senators [TS]

00:32:12   were going to have five army guys [TS]

00:32:14   company you at all times oh great i got [TS]

00:32:16   army guy got a personal 505 army guy [TS]

00:32:19   guard like know they're there to make [TS]

00:32:21   sure that when the final order comes [TS]

00:32:22   there five people to shoot you [TS]

00:32:24   I like that wasn't that wasn't there so [TS]

00:32:26   many times so many symbols of this could [TS]

00:32:28   have been a really really good [TS]

00:32:29   plot a really really good plan but Jedi [TS]

00:32:32   sense when other Jedi or anybody dies [TS]

00:32:34   like that the whole reason that Yoda [TS]

00:32:35   lives like oh he senses the other one [TS]

00:32:37   die unless they kill them in exactly [TS]

00:32:38   precisely the same on all the other ones [TS]

00:32:40   are you there spidey sense to mix things [TS]

00:32:42   are gonna have to be tingling all [TS]

00:32:43   skilled at the same time [TS]

00:32:46   Yodas a little further away and so with [TS]

00:32:48   this man is because he's got a feeling [TS]

00:32:50   he gets like oh something terrible's [TS]

00:32:52   happening which is why when the Clone [TS]

00:32:53   Trooper coming up behind him he loses [TS]

00:32:55   his head in two seconds which is you [TS]

00:32:56   know appropriate realistic possible that [TS]

00:32:59   Yoda special the arm so Anakin goes to [TS]

00:33:03   the Jedi Temple and kills all the little [TS]

00:33:05   kids because it might save his secret [TS]

00:33:06   wife yeah that's that's his logic I i [TS]

00:33:08   believe i did the whole thing is [TS]

00:33:10   motivated by crazy dream and his logic [TS]

00:33:12   is if I kill these kids i will it will [TS]

00:33:14   save my wife who will surely will surely [TS]

00:33:16   still love me after I kill these kids [TS]

00:33:17   man in secret alternate movie what I [TS]

00:33:20   would love to have seen was Annika goes [TS]

00:33:22   into the Jedi camp temple finds the kids [TS]

00:33:26   heard them all into a room and it's [TS]

00:33:27   basically like there are people [TS]

00:33:28   attacking the the temple please don't [TS]

00:33:30   come out hide in here then he goes in [TS]

00:33:32   search of the other adult Jedi kills the [TS]

00:33:34   adult Jedi he hasn't gotten all of the [TS]

00:33:37   kids tiny little kid [TS]

00:33:38   seize him seize him killing the Jedi [TS]

00:33:41   runs off to tell the other kids [TS]

00:33:43   yeah pretty much runs opportunity of the [TS]

00:33:45   chaos being our tree up with your [TS]

00:33:46   lifestyle chopping all of our Jedi [TS]

00:33:49   teachers to bits but that but then he [TS]

00:33:52   feels forced to kill the kids and then [TS]

00:33:54   it's not just I'm sorry for he comes [TS]

00:33:57   back to the room with the kids and his [TS]

00:33:58   guys we're going to Chancellor [TS]

00:34:00   Palpatine's daycare from now on or there [TS]

00:34:02   are no young and stupid Jedi Temple to [TS]

00:34:04   begin a young man hanging ding yeah when [TS]

00:34:08   they find the bodies later apparently [TS]

00:34:10   these children died of a broken heart as [TS]

00:34:12   another character will later in this [TS]

00:34:13   movie I guess there's not a mark on them [TS]

00:34:15   didn't have the guts to say what they [TS]

00:34:16   want you to think that he killed them [TS]

00:34:18   but they didn't want to show a single [TS]

00:34:19   scorch mark let alone blood or anything [TS]

00:34:21   like that someone who seemed to have [TS]

00:34:22   been killed by a lightsaber [TS]

00:34:23   yeah they've been killed by lightsabers [TS]

00:34:26   maybe their next walk I they say but [TS]

00:34:28   they don't show it like it's made to [TS]

00:34:29   show a bunch of kids laying down okay [TS]

00:34:31   this isn't a dark movie job or something [TS]

00:34:33   like they showed him on fire with his [TS]

00:34:35   little calculator but our land and the [TS]

00:34:37   turkey out thanks ok I want to know [TS]

00:34:39   who's stupid kid is it that says Master [TS]

00:34:42   Skywalker there are too many of the [TS]

00:34:43   what are we going to do because that is [TS]

00:34:45   the worst line reading in any Star Wars [TS]

00:34:47   fan well that was a kid and I think [TS]

00:34:49   Hayden Christensen who is an adult has [TS]

00:34:51   way worse line readings man no no it's [TS]

00:34:54   so so bad we get a and we also have our [TS]

00:34:57   Chewbacca cameo around now which is like [TS]

00:35:00   that couch Ibaka ok it's on a show you [TS]

00:35:03   what it takes off in his almond in [TS]

00:35:05   something yes that's right Jimmy Smith's [TS]

00:35:07   we get to see he runs away run away [TS]

00:35:09   Jimmy Smith sits back and still becoming [TS]

00:35:11   president someday Jimmy and you go and [TS]

00:35:13   he goes back to the white ship that we [TS]

00:35:15   do this from the from the original star [TS]

00:35:17   wars the white ship with black curtains [TS]

00:35:19   I'll be one does what he always does [TS]

00:35:21   which is land on a planet and do [TS]

00:35:23   something and take off that's all he [TS]

00:35:25   ever ever does it does it again many [TS]

00:35:28   Jedi have been killed [TS]

00:35:29   we get some nice use of the pot the [TS]

00:35:30   passive voice their many Jedi have been [TS]

00:35:33   killed by who [TS]

00:35:34   somebody that you know knows he doesn't [TS]

00:35:37   want you to look at the tapes he knows [TS]

00:35:38   what's on them and this is when i hit my [TS]

00:35:39   natalie portman despair and I wrote down [TS]

00:35:41   if only we believed anything about this [TS]

00:35:43   if only Padme were anything but just the [TS]

00:35:46   girlfriend she does nothing worst fake [TS]

00:35:49   crying Natalie sorry i love you [TS]

00:35:51   worst fake crying I i like seeing the [TS]

00:35:54   white ship the the you know what it was [TS]

00:35:56   that the tension of Santa far for ya [TS]

00:35:58   Fauria I like seeing that that would [TS]

00:36:01   that means i remembered a good movie [TS]

00:36:03   well I saw that part yeah to Steve's [TS]

00:36:06   point about there being no comic relief [TS]

00:36:07   this really depressing scene when Anakin [TS]

00:36:09   goes back to talk to Padme and then r2 [TS]

00:36:12   who's been with him and like this is the [TS]

00:36:13   thing that really upset yeah is that was [TS]

00:36:16   our to witness to all the younger and it [TS]

00:36:18   was ok with it right and so like having [TS]

00:36:20   the droids be a party to Anakin's life [TS]

00:36:22   totally corrupt them in our view because [TS]

00:36:24   they're now tainted by association and [TS]

00:36:26   so we get the line where Threepio says [TS]

00:36:28   well he is under a lot of stress actual [TS]

00:36:34   I think the most repeated line in this [TS]

00:36:37   film though is our to stay with the ship [TS]

00:36:39   so yes always being totally like I'm in [TS]

00:36:42   the ship [TS]

00:36:43   I've had to stay with the ship i am [TS]

00:36:44   going to ship [TS]

00:36:46   yeah it was ok with the killing and mass [TS]

00:36:49   murdering of innocence my my heart will [TS]

00:36:51   be crushed into Anakin comes to check on [TS]

00:36:54   padmé and the baby oh by the way I just [TS]

00:36:56   killed a bunch of toddlers [TS]

00:36:57   yeah i'm gonna be a great dad blood on [TS]

00:36:59   my hands sorry those are baby I did it [TS]

00:37:01   for you look as you're gonna be okay I [TS]

00:37:03   did it I did it for you baby yeah that [TS]

00:37:07   dream I had about you is totally not [TS]

00:37:09   gonna come true now i know you're really [TS]

00:37:10   worried about I'm gonna be the greatest [TS]

00:37:11   dad ever if ever we need to kill our [TS]

00:37:13   kids I don't totally done that I also i [TS]

00:37:16   can guarantee our son is going to be top [TS]

00:37:18   of the classic Young's but here's a [TS]

00:37:20   here's the most important part of the [TS]

00:37:22   movie then is what happens next which is [TS]

00:37:24   can you can you can you guess I have [TS]

00:37:27   initiated a special session of Congress [TS]

00:37:30   to blah blah blah boring boring boring I [TS]

00:37:36   think that got me is there at some point [TS]

00:37:37   I think it's the scene where the obi-wan [TS]

00:37:39   is looking at the security footage he [TS]

00:37:40   said something like oh we better go you [TS]

00:37:42   know should we go confront the Emperor [TS]

00:37:44   something I'm like really were already [TS]

00:37:45   calling the Emperor like a one-day and [TS]

00:37:47   proclaiming is going to empire we're [TS]

00:37:49   just going to get that choice releases [TS]

00:37:50   no I can't believe it [TS]

00:37:52   it can't be true yeah okay yeah I can [TS]

00:37:56   kind of believe that kid was always [TS]

00:37:57   kinda screwed also did you notice that [TS]

00:37:59   as soon as Anakin is fully on board as [TS]

00:38:01   being Darth Vader they give him the evil [TS]

00:38:02   ship to fly [TS]

00:38:04   oh yeah it's like now no now that you're [TS]

00:38:06   a Sith Lord you get the cool evil ship [TS]

00:38:08   the park i also don't get why everybody [TS]

00:38:10   in the Senate is that happy about the [TS]

00:38:11   Empire they're like yeah I didn't they [TS]

00:38:14   didn't spend any time explaining no I [TS]

00:38:16   like people would go along with this [TS]

00:38:18   this is how Liberty dies with thunderous [TS]

00:38:20   applause yeah it's set up for that [TS]

00:38:23   terrible wine which which in some ways [TS]

00:38:24   could have been a good line in in that [TS]

00:38:27   mystical other universe movie but like [TS]

00:38:29   it doesn't make any sense here because [TS]

00:38:31   we don't [TS]

00:38:32   despite all the time we spent on [TS]

00:38:33   politics none of those politics have a [TS]

00:38:35   substance we have no understanding of [TS]

00:38:37   why anybody would be excited about being [TS]

00:38:39   in the Empire this is the official start [TS]

00:38:41   remember the scene in patent [TS]

00:38:42   where the there's this final scene in [TS]

00:38:45   the the german bunker where every [TS]

00:38:47   general is just burning papers as fast [TS]

00:38:49   as they possibly can before the Allies [TS]

00:38:51   come in this is to me that's like the [TS]

00:38:53   the start of the part of this movie [TS]

00:38:55   we're like we just have to start burning [TS]

00:38:57   papers we start have to we have to start [TS]

00:38:59   making sure that everything that happens [TS]

00:39:01   after this rib for the 20 years between [TS]

00:39:03   this movie and episode 4 makes some kind [TS]

00:39:06   of sense they need to have needs to make [TS]

00:39:09   sure that the emperor has absolutely got [TS]

00:39:11   to achieve victory here he doesn't have [TS]

00:39:13   to take out the Senate he doesn't have [TS]

00:39:15   to would fight a long long campaign he [TS]

00:39:18   is the victorious champion of a force of [TS]

00:39:20   light that has that has gotten rid of [TS]

00:39:22   those people who are filing those tax [TS]

00:39:25   impound forms yes incorrectly whatever [TS]

00:39:27   the hell was the train from someone says [TS]

00:39:29   butte you know so yeah hooray so it [TS]

00:39:32   isn't it's it and oh my god he was so [TS]

00:39:34   horribly scarred he will bear like the [TS]

00:39:36   that proudly the symbol of how much he [TS]

00:39:38   sacrificed to make us would make us [TS]

00:39:40   victory victorious and feel good about [TS]

00:39:42   ourselves so it's almost like the [TS]

00:39:43   Falklands at Falkland Islands conflict [TS]

00:39:45   located in britain in like 1080p digital [TS]

00:39:49   um I I like i mentioned nute Gunray [TS]

00:39:52   earlier i'll enjoyed you can ray dying [TS]

00:39:54   at this point it's like they're killing [TS]

00:39:56   a part of episode 1 and i approve i have [TS]

00:39:59   that line actually written down her a [TS]

00:40:00   he's going to kill new country i know [TS]

00:40:03   and i wrote two races to live is also [TS]

00:40:08   align here somewhere I forget who says [TS]

00:40:09   it but he says the Chancellor will not [TS]

00:40:11   be able to control the thousands of star [TS]

00:40:12   systems without keeping the Senate [TS]

00:40:13   intact which one person he does outside [TS]

00:40:16   for ya I'd like 20 years later 20 years [TS]

00:40:20   and then he has all the Senate you know [TS]

00:40:21   but it does seem clearly a setup line to [TS]

00:40:23   be like all right we're gonna get back [TS]

00:40:25   to this is that it's a tie back to well [TS]

00:40:28   how how we get the no-fear will keep [TS]

00:40:29   local systems in line fear what fear of [TS]

00:40:31   this battle station but it's not built [TS]

00:40:32   yet so you know you gotta keep yourself [TS]

00:40:34   around just for fun and a hell of a long [TS]

00:40:37   time to build that battle station it is [TS]

00:40:38   they built they built the new one in [TS]

00:40:40   like a couple years but now they built [TS]

00:40:42   them both the same time clearly yyyy a 4 [TS]

00:40:44   11 and build whatever you can afford the [TS]

00:40:46   price yes it's it's it's like [TS]

00:40:48   pharmaceuticals you know the first death [TS]

00:40:50   star takes two [TS]

00:40:51   cost 80 trillion the second one costs [TS]

00:40:53   only eighteen cents lost i didn't really [TS]

00:40:55   finish the second i know they didn't [TS]

00:40:56   they just made operational but it was [TS]

00:40:58   still pretty much just superstructure [TS]

00:40:59   this is like the superstructure my [TS]

00:41:03   comment about Anakin killing all the the [TS]

00:41:05   the sad racist red Trade Federation [TS]

00:41:07   folks is the key if you the best he's [TS]

00:41:10   standing out on that balcony is all [TS]

00:41:12   cowled up and supposed to look angry and [TS]

00:41:13   zooms in and you see is and cry yes [TS]

00:41:15   singles hear you cry about the Ottoman [TS]

00:41:18   I'm gonna die when that was the best [TS]

00:41:21   across a lot only kids was fine i went [TS]

00:41:23   back had me five minutes later and I was [TS]

00:41:25   like everything's gonna be fine but i [TS]

00:41:26   can't kill nute Gunray and it really [TS]

00:41:28   upset me i have a newcomer reaction [TS]

00:41:30   finger [TS]

00:41:30   I've known him since I was a little kid [TS]

00:41:33   your Jedi now I need don't know I [TS]

00:41:37   remember when you were small and [TS]

00:41:38   destroyed my ship accidentally exactly [TS]

00:41:42   that then there's a scene in which he [TS]

00:41:43   finally like collect like opens his [TS]

00:41:45   mails been piling up [TS]

00:41:46   congratulations or the Jedi Council [TS]

00:41:48   confers upon you the title of Master [TS]

00:41:50   sorry took us so long but you know we've [TS]

00:41:52   been busy god dammit and the title of [TS]

00:41:55   weepy a Sith Lord ghost in her a lot of [TS]

00:41:58   iron eyes Cody moments in Anakin's shots [TS]

00:42:02   here is very distressed about all the [TS]

00:42:04   litter in the galaxy everybody decides [TS]

00:42:06   to go to lava world seemed like that [TS]

00:42:08   that led Padme says besides Threepio [TS]

00:42:10   will look after me least reassuring [TS]

00:42:12   wherever Threepio really get short [TS]

00:42:16   shrift in this movie doesn't he doesn't [TS]

00:42:18   have like three lines and all ya no puns [TS]

00:42:20   he wanted to like his puns but for [TS]

00:42:22   pete's sake also obi-wan Stow's away in [TS]

00:42:25   the John of the ship [TS]

00:42:26   yeah it's now carries that I also like [TS]

00:42:29   whenever they whenever the Jedi use [TS]

00:42:31   their force powers to close doors it is [TS]

00:42:32   my favorite thing ever because he could [TS]

00:42:35   especially push the button but even they [TS]

00:42:36   just closed or the uh this is where I [TS]

00:42:39   really kind of run out of any respect [TS]

00:42:43   for or like of POD may well here's [TS]

00:42:45   here's one thing you have to respect [TS]

00:42:46   okay she's gonna give birth in a matter [TS]

00:42:48   of hours to full seemingly to two [TS]

00:42:50   seemingly full-term babies and and she [TS]

00:42:53   prances down the walkway of that ship [TS]

00:42:56   like like she is light as a feather yeah [TS]

00:42:58   like she's like I'm going to give birth [TS]

00:42:59   in hours and but look to poop you know I [TS]

00:43:02   mean she's not very big it's fine she [TS]

00:43:03   supposed to be pregnant with twins [TS]

00:43:04   doesn't [TS]

00:43:05   really quite work but she's just running [TS]

00:43:06   around so she is a superwoman [TS]

00:43:08   so in this scene again trying to set up [TS]

00:43:10   Anakin as a different character than [TS]

00:43:12   we've actually seen he says we could [TS]

00:43:13   overthrow the Emperor and prevent rule [TS]

00:43:16   together is where other and mothers for [TS]

00:43:18   power come from nowhere [TS]

00:43:20   yeah but her response to that is I don't [TS]

00:43:22   believe what I'm hearing and i'm not [TS]

00:43:23   sure why because this kind of fascist [TS]

00:43:25   rambling is pretty par for the course [TS]

00:43:26   for what Anakin is busted out in their [TS]

00:43:29   political discussion so far i thought [TS]

00:43:30   that was just natalie portman saying [TS]

00:43:32   that you're right now it doesn't this is [TS]

00:43:34   the best this is the best mean the worst [TS]

00:43:36   line in the movie where it in this scene [TS]

00:43:38   what you know George like what we need [TS]

00:43:39   to have happened here is that Anakin [TS]

00:43:41   needs to brake pad my heart [TS]

00:43:43   ok pad me line ready yet Anakin you're [TS]

00:43:47   breaking my heart you can't just write [TS]

00:43:49   that you have to show us you can't just [TS]

00:43:51   like I know you anymore stop now that [TS]

00:43:54   person's name and you like it's a lazy [TS]

00:43:56   flyball of things that you need to show [TS]

00:43:58   on scene showing someone breaking [TS]

00:44:00   someone's heart is not hard to do like [TS]

00:44:01   it's already darn easy like a ball that [TS]

00:44:03   it's not very subtle but have her to [TS]

00:44:05   have her say the lines like you don't [TS]

00:44:07   understand how writing works [TS]

00:44:09   what are you doing at the delivery is [TS]

00:44:10   different like I wrote down my note here [TS]

00:44:12   was saying vs acting and so it really is [TS]

00:44:14   just like these people are just reading [TS]

00:44:16   lines these our actors who signed a [TS]

00:44:18   three-picture deal they bore they were [TS]

00:44:20   regretting that after picture 1 they [TS]

00:44:22   can't get out of it the only way this [TS]

00:44:23   line works is if she's sarcastic oh I [TS]

00:44:26   Anakin you're breaking my heart [TS]

00:44:27   that's the only way it works is written [TS]

00:44:29   yeah it's it's a it's really really [TS]

00:44:31   really badly forced jokes are my [TS]

00:44:35   allegiance is to democracy most boring [TS]

00:44:38   democracy versus tyranny there's another [TS]

00:44:40   great line if you're not with me you're [TS]

00:44:42   my enemy right now you can't you can't [TS]

00:44:45   say you're against me because he didn't [TS]

00:44:46   want to do a cliché read the line that [TS]

00:44:48   immediately follows that is this only a [TS]

00:44:50   Sith deals in absolutes I have to tell [TS]

00:44:53   you obi-wan that's an absolute you not [TS]

00:44:55   exactly we're just like unintentional [TS]

00:44:58   intentional irony from that is unselfish [TS]

00:45:01   we're completely unselfish where ya [TS]

00:45:03   George Lucas or whoever goes wrote that [TS]

00:45:06   line but I'm gonna say George Lucas how [TS]

00:45:08   do you not realize that as you're [TS]

00:45:10   writing that what this is a really good [TS]

00:45:12   like it here's the thing about this [TS]

00:45:13   movie is like we talked about week on [TS]

00:45:15   the bad movies things we watch the core [TS]

00:45:17   and stuff like if [TS]

00:45:18   show normal person this movie they will [TS]

00:45:20   laugh it seems that are not supposed to [TS]

00:45:22   be because you can't like they're not [TS]

00:45:23   they don't know this must have any [TS]

00:45:24   reverence for Star Wars or anything [TS]

00:45:26   they'll watch it and they'll laugh at [TS]

00:45:27   the way you laugh at a bad movie and the [TS]

00:45:29   only reason we're not able to do that [TS]

00:45:30   for because we're so upset that they [TS]

00:45:32   bring this is because here is pouring [TS]

00:45:35   down your face stare at the screen [TS]

00:45:36   yeah that's right just the single Tier [TS]

00:45:38   one and what I say is I don't like this [TS]

00:45:41   movie that's because you're so in love [TS]

00:45:43   Jason no let's take a break to tell you [TS]

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00:47:07   to read the full disclosure [TS]

00:47:09   how'd I do all right back to the show so [TS]

00:47:11   let's see if there's a duel then suffice [TS]

00:47:13   to say there's a hat [TS]

00:47:15   I don't think we can suffice it to say [TS]

00:47:16   because this like they're about it [TS]

00:47:17   reminded me so many so much as man of [TS]

00:47:20   steel remember a man of steel when you [TS]

00:47:22   have action figures banging against each [TS]

00:47:23   other yeah this lightsaber battle is [TS]

00:47:25   like at this point you're totally you're [TS]

00:47:27   totally signed out you truly checked out [TS]

00:47:29   because of [TS]

00:47:29   the ridiculousness of this entire thing [TS]

00:47:31   and like they're going to hit [TS]

00:47:33   lightsabers against each other's [TS]

00:47:34   repeatedly for a long time with no [TS]

00:47:36   dialogue pretty much like they don't [TS]

00:47:38   talk to it they talk a little bit in the [TS]

00:47:39   beginning and then it's like bang bang [TS]

00:47:40   bang it's just like Oh bouncing around [TS]

00:47:42   it was MIT's Man of Steel all over again [TS]

00:47:45   any drama this saber battle might have [TS]

00:47:46   had is completely dissipated by a bear [TS]

00:47:48   around minute 40 not not short enough it [TS]

00:47:51   was is what I'm trying to tell you who [TS]

00:47:53   you know the lightsaber battle at the [TS]

00:47:54   end of episode one isn't bad and this is [TS]

00:47:57   not that this is part of it is being [TS]

00:48:00   drained of any interest in these [TS]

00:48:01   characters part of it is that it is like [TS]

00:48:05   videogame figures banging up against [TS]

00:48:08   each other [TS]

00:48:09   I also feel that at some point right [TS]

00:48:11   around here maybe when Steve cited a [TS]

00:48:13   little bit earlier where it's sort of [TS]

00:48:14   like nothing good happens past this [TS]

00:48:15   point I feel like the movie shifts from [TS]

00:48:17   being the obligatory list of references [TS]

00:48:20   to the wii now we've this is the part we [TS]

00:48:24   wrote early that we knew was going to be [TS]

00:48:26   the end of the trilogy and then [TS]

00:48:28   everything else is backfilled to that [TS]

00:48:30   moment I feel like we're in that moment [TS]

00:48:32   now we're now we're completely on rails [TS]

00:48:34   and everything is just obligatory it has [TS]

00:48:36   to be this way i wrote in a fanzine in [TS]

00:48:39   1978 the darth vader lost you know was [TS]

00:48:42   scarred in lava and so there has to be a [TS]

00:48:44   lava planet and there has to be a battle [TS]

00:48:45   and it is all a blanket or actors dots [TS]

00:48:48   and it has to be bigger it's like it's [TS]

00:48:50   like the bad version of Return of the [TS]

00:48:51   Jedi we're like we needed even bigger [TS]

00:48:53   space battle i think they pull that off [TS]

00:48:54   its like this needs to be the biggest [TS]

00:48:56   lightsaber battle the most banging of [TS]

00:48:58   lightsabers together and they did that [TS]

00:49:00   for sheer number of times two [TS]

00:49:01   lightsabers hit each other this probably [TS]

00:49:02   is the record but it's just monotonous [TS]

00:49:04   and there's no pace to it and like i [TS]

00:49:07   said i don't even talk to each other [TS]

00:49:08   have the same compared to like the you [TS]

00:49:10   know Empire Strikes vaccine with the [TS]

00:49:11   with a battle that takes probably the [TS]

00:49:13   same amount of time with like one [TS]

00:49:14   ten-thousandth the number lightsaber [TS]

00:49:16   clashes in 20 times the dialogue where [TS]

00:49:18   should this not also be the ultimate yes [TS]

00:49:21   decision sewing jamming the decision [TS]

00:49:23   point of these characters there's one [TS]

00:49:25   there's one moment in this that just [TS]

00:49:26   makes me completely it it bring it like [TS]

00:49:28   anakin it breaks my heart for the poor [TS]

00:49:31   people of X guys because there's that [TS]

00:49:33   moment where there are clashing and [TS]

00:49:34   they're they're standing on some sort of [TS]

00:49:36   a pipe or something and their [TS]

00:49:39   lightsabers meet and then there's like a [TS]

00:49:40   gigantic wave of lava that shoots up [TS]

00:49:43   find him and I gotta see that and not [TS]

00:49:44   think if this film had been done right [TS]

00:49:47   how absolutely beautiful that scene [TS]

00:49:50   would have been a helping hand moving [TS]

00:49:51   and amazing it would have been and [TS]

00:49:54   instead it's just completely wasted on [TS]

00:49:55   this piece of crap this okay we've got [TS]

00:49:58   it we've got an awesome fight that's [TS]

00:49:59   great [TS]

00:50:00   lots of banging of lightsabers against [TS]

00:50:01   other lightsabers the whole point of [TS]

00:50:03   this fight should be this is the final [TS]

00:50:06   moment not in lightsabers but in [TS]

00:50:08   characters where obi-wan and Anakin are [TS]

00:50:13   making their final arguments with each [TS]

00:50:15   other right and that argument should be [TS]

00:50:17   about well the jedis the Jedi is better [TS]

00:50:20   you need to rethink this and all that [TS]

00:50:21   and instead it's just where we're [TS]

00:50:24   enemies now let's fight and see who wins [TS]

00:50:26   and it's it's it's a shame this should [TS]

00:50:28   this is the tragic core of the story [TS]

00:50:30   except it's not it's just another [TS]

00:50:32   lightsaber back even more than that [TS]

00:50:33   Jason I think it comes down to the [TS]

00:50:35   personal relationship these guys you [TS]

00:50:37   know in a in a ham-fisted Lee delivered [TS]

00:50:39   line from everyone later [TS]

00:50:41   these guys are best friends these guys [TS]

00:50:43   are others and your stretches and that's [TS]

00:50:46   the falling out of two people who are [TS]

00:50:48   like really good friends and that [TS]

00:50:49   happens and it's so easy like again like [TS]

00:50:51   John's point about the like breaking [TS]

00:50:53   your heart seemed like that's something [TS]

00:50:54   that is not hard to show but we want to [TS]

00:50:58   feel that these guys who have suffered [TS]

00:51:00   and been through so much together have [TS]

00:51:01   just finally come to this these [TS]

00:51:03   loggerheads and is the only way to get [TS]

00:51:05   that out is that they're physically [TS]

00:51:06   going to fight and and yet none of that [TS]

00:51:09   it's totally robbed of any emotion it's [TS]

00:51:11   a damn shame and how much more meaning [TS]

00:51:13   that would have if if if Anakin had sort [TS]

00:51:17   of gradually moved to a sort of semi [TS]

00:51:19   reasonable position on the Sith instead [TS]

00:51:22   of killing younglings right yeah [TS]

00:51:24   also i am i'm reminded again to go back [TS]

00:51:26   to the original trilogy of you know when [TS]

00:51:29   last we met you were the master I I kind [TS]

00:51:32   of wanted that here I wanted to feel [TS]

00:51:33   more like this battle is a really open [TS]

00:51:37   one holding it holding back because he [TS]

00:51:41   can't bear and and there's a little of [TS]

00:51:43   it but I felt like I wanted to feel like [TS]

00:51:45   obi-wan's the master here he's got this [TS]

00:51:47   the only reason this goes on is he's [TS]

00:51:49   trying very hard not to kill Anakin you [TS]

00:51:51   didn't have a real hard time leveling [TS]

00:51:53   the power [TS]

00:51:54   I'm a bit like the balance and writing [TS]

00:51:55   40 isn't always the window the most [TS]

00:51:58   powerful what about yoga but Hannigan's [TS]

00:51:59   also be more powerful but in general [TS]

00:52:00   obi-wan seems more as if you like the [TS]

00:52:02   they don't have a good they never really [TS]

00:52:05   established the power hierarchy of the [TS]

00:52:07   Jedi despite the fact that they have [TS]

00:52:08   explicit lines like my powers have [TS]

00:52:10   doubled in blood like an 83 on the [TS]

00:52:13   midi-chlorian scale it doesn't make [TS]

00:52:14   sense how they stack up to each other [TS]

00:52:16   which makes these which makes these [TS]

00:52:18   scenes unclear again you know is obi-wan [TS]

00:52:20   holding back is Palpatine holding back [TS]

00:52:22   is like you never quite know where is [TS]

00:52:24   the hierarchy of power so much clearer [TS]

00:52:27   in the original trilogy you knew [TS]

00:52:28   like what you know you knew how it went [TS]

00:52:31   Emperor than Vader than luke and I can [TS]

00:52:33   and it was born out and like you didn't [TS]

00:52:35   think that that Luke was holding back [TS]

00:52:37   and he could have defeated innovator and [TS]

00:52:38   empire he wasn't like it was so clear [TS]

00:52:40   and this it just it you know it makes [TS]

00:52:42   that it makes you not care about them [TS]

00:52:44   being lightsabers they save like the [TS]

00:52:45   thing for the end where he actually says [TS]

00:52:46   the lines like we were supposed to be [TS]

00:52:48   friends like all right fine bad writing [TS]

00:52:50   whatever but you just spent 20 minutes [TS]

00:52:52   boring me by hitting your lightsabres [TS]

00:52:53   together before you got to that seen you [TS]

00:52:55   could have been doing that while you [TS]

00:52:56   were fighting or in between and because [TS]

00:52:57   the choreography could have been more [TS]

00:52:58   impressive instead of having a visual [TS]

00:53:00   effects come Center like there's some of [TS]

00:53:02   the stuff makes no sense hero be one [TS]

00:53:04   takes like a tactical retreat on to like [TS]

00:53:06   a pylon or something like that and [TS]

00:53:07   they're just beginning wedding where the [TS]

00:53:09   robots they're robots that are doing the [TS]

00:53:11   work at the in the planet which makes it [TS]

00:53:13   even dumber because apparently I i was [TS]

00:53:15   thinking like flying drugs with buckets [TS]

00:53:17   seems like the least efficient way to do [TS]

00:53:19   anything [TS]

00:53:19   well then what are the odds that the [TS]

00:53:21   flying bucket and the other flying [TS]

00:53:23   platform happened to stay within light [TS]

00:53:24   say that each other for the next week [TS]

00:53:26   yeah they want to see a good fight too [TS]

00:53:28   so you know there's no sweetheart it's [TS]

00:53:31   the eight-year-old approach again like [TS]

00:53:32   oh you'll be awesome lava different [TS]

00:53:34   platforms in fact that not just that its [TS]

00:53:37   fight choreography done by whoever it is [TS]

00:53:39   is doing the video game design because [TS]

00:53:41   to get can't remember what was that [TS]

00:53:43   episode 2 in which drama dollars doing [TS]

00:53:45   that I'm sorry in which apartment is [TS]

00:53:48   doing the thing where she she lets you [TS]

00:53:50   she finds herself like in a super mario [TS]

00:53:52   land level [TS]

00:53:53   yeah just jump over the swing of things [TS]

00:53:55   and ducked out and then swing and now [TS]

00:53:56   it's a left-to-right scroller thing it's [TS]

00:53:59   like the problem [TS]

00:54:00   yeah I'm surprised we don't get a donkey [TS]

00:54:02   kong sound effect in some [TS]

00:54:04   already had the cars and so does anybody [TS]

00:54:05   want to talk about the tactical high [TS]

00:54:08   ground that you have now I've got the [TS]

00:54:10   high ground now an occasion you know [TS]

00:54:12   like Darth Maul did that one time yeah [TS]

00:54:15   and they have like they have this hold [TS]

00:54:16   20 minutes scene of lights they're [TS]

00:54:18   battling like they just didn't know how [TS]

00:54:19   to end the like okay well this has to [TS]

00:54:20   come to a conclusion somehow it's like I [TS]

00:54:22   can't think of anything I must kill op [TS]

00:54:24   have them stop talk to each other [TS]

00:54:26   establish a nonsensical premise that [TS]

00:54:28   will lead to the final event which will [TS]

00:54:30   be that obi-wan winds like a mile of [TS]

00:54:31   just said ok now the fight must end and [TS]

00:54:34   the script says I should win so pleased [TS]

00:54:36   you can cut off my legs now that they [TS]

00:54:38   might as well done that it was associate [TS]

00:54:40   and uh and the other thing that we [TS]

00:54:42   should address i want to talk about [TS]

00:54:43   universal Palpatine but we'll do that in [TS]

00:54:45   a minute the other thing we need to [TS]

00:54:46   address here is the fact that i don't [TS]

00:54:50   really want to hurt you but you're gonna [TS]

00:54:51   make me but once I've cut off your legs [TS]

00:54:54   and your burning to death i'm just going [TS]

00:54:56   to lady take a walk [TS]

00:54:58   yes well I mean so here's the thing is [TS]

00:54:59   like I actually like obi-wan's speech [TS]

00:55:02   it's not the best it's not well written [TS]

00:55:04   but it there is an element of [TS]

00:55:06   genuineness and ewan mcgregor actually [TS]

00:55:08   manages to convey certain emotions [TS]

00:55:10   entirely the acting which is then [TS]

00:55:12   completely ruined by the fact that he [TS]

00:55:13   shows him no mercy yeah yeah just walked [TS]

00:55:16   away like well you're supposed to be my [TS]

00:55:17   brother but i'm not going to do anything [TS]

00:55:19   even he's your suffering in anyway so [TS]

00:55:21   now you're winners community of leaving [TS]

00:55:23   the guy there to possibly survive and be [TS]

00:55:25   turned into a semi robots huh [TS]

00:55:27   the odds are solo ste I i will say that [TS]

00:55:31   i can i did kinda by that because they [TS]

00:55:34   were again if we need adventure that's [TS]

00:55:35   this is good acting on the McGregor's [TS]

00:55:38   part but I did get the the sense that ok [TS]

00:55:41   well Anakin is dead [TS]

00:55:43   okay he's gone he's dead I'm he's never [TS]

00:55:45   going to come back i now owe no [TS]

00:55:48   allegiance to this Anakin shape thing [TS]

00:55:51   that's in front of me but still at the [TS]

00:55:53   same time it's just there is an element [TS]

00:55:55   of it that the Jedi are supposed to be [TS]

00:55:57   bigger than that right and that's what [TS]

00:55:59   we want from obi-wan is he supposed to [TS]

00:56:00   be the bigger man and I think the main [TS]

00:56:02   thing is that that advocates character [TS]

00:56:04   is played by hayden christensen always [TS]

00:56:06   comes off as the younger person in the [TS]

00:56:08   relationship he always comes off as the [TS]

00:56:10   whiny child and he never he never sort [TS]

00:56:12   of comes into his own and takes agency [TS]

00:56:14   and becomes like that [TS]

00:56:16   i am now actively working towards a goal [TS]

00:56:18   counter to yours is always tired of like [TS]

00:56:21   a big brother little brother [TS]

00:56:22   relationship where you never truly [TS]

00:56:24   believe like well now you've made your [TS]

00:56:26   choice and now you've made your bed now [TS]

00:56:28   you have the line it's like and Anakin [TS]

00:56:29   didn't make any bet he's just confused [TS]

00:56:31   stupid kid and that's why you can I [TS]

00:56:33   can't buy likely that thing that and he [TS]

00:56:35   was saying was like it just doesn't it [TS]

00:56:36   doesn't make sense that he would that he [TS]

00:56:38   would say well mike is that you would [TS]

00:56:39   still like the whole audience feels the [TS]

00:56:41   whole time he's just a stupid idiot and [TS]

00:56:43   doesn't have any idea what's going on [TS]

00:56:45   and you will never keep it but the [TS]

00:56:46   stupid idiot really left the movie when [TS]

00:56:49   he started killing kids huh that's why [TS]

00:56:52   it doesn't make sense of it but then but [TS]

00:56:53   then what's the point of the whole you [TS]

00:56:55   were my brother Anakin I loved you [TS]

00:56:56   speech mean if he's if he thinks [TS]

00:56:58   Anakin's gone and that the whole point [TS]

00:57:00   of having that speech is pretty much out [TS]

00:57:01   the window 2 i'm not saying that ever [TS]

00:57:04   all this makes like really good tight [TS]

00:57:06   one thing is it's more like it really is [TS]

00:57:10   like this is I think this is true if i [TS]

00:57:12   call this as we're talking about this [TS]

00:57:13   movie we really are trying to piece [TS]

00:57:15   together the wreckage of an airplane and [TS]

00:57:17   trying to figure out what happened or [TS]

00:57:19   which or or actually better yet I think [TS]

00:57:21   it's more like an archaeological dig [TS]

00:57:22   where we've got all these parts that [TS]

00:57:25   we've dug up and we think they fit [TS]

00:57:27   together this way and we're trying to [TS]

00:57:29   figure out I know this is a mess of box [TS]

00:57:31   of rocks and springs were looking at but [TS]

00:57:33   where they tried to make an astrolabe [TS]

00:57:35   where they're trying to make a [TS]

00:57:36   calculator device and we can each try to [TS]

00:57:39   figure out what they did for me I feel [TS]

00:57:42   as though the intent of what what that [TS]

00:57:45   scene was meant to do is just as ob1 [TS]

00:57:48   said in an episode for that at that but [TS]

00:57:51   I'm sorry episode 5 in an empire at the [TS]

00:57:54   mall at that point by sort of from [TS]

00:57:56   certain point of view Anakin was dead [TS]

00:57:58   and there was no coming back from that [TS]

00:57:59   i'm saying i keep thinking what would [TS]

00:58:04   have made Anakin or obi-wan I'm [TS]

00:58:07   abandoning him better [TS]

00:58:08   I i rather a different a different movie [TS]

00:58:10   to let him out ok ok but no I actually I [TS]

00:58:13   think if if a a bunch of clones or [TS]

00:58:17   whatever had been had arrived and were [TS]

00:58:21   shooting at him right if it was any kind [TS]

00:58:24   of like like that's why that's the worst [TS]

00:58:26   thing it's not so hard like you get your [TS]

00:58:28   a movie with war is it getting the same [TS]

00:58:30   thing without Padme dies it's so easy to [TS]

00:58:32   kill people in the legitimate believable [TS]

00:58:34   matter if they find these preposterous [TS]

00:58:35   ways to kill major characters and have [TS]

00:58:37   major plot points that like it's not [TS]

00:58:39   hard people i want obi-wan to be under [TS]

00:58:41   fire and not be able to finish the job [TS]

00:58:43   and say maybe I'm sorry Anakin yeah and [TS]

00:58:46   and leave and leave him to the clones [TS]

00:58:48   and know that he's not gonna die is [TS]

00:58:50   horribly right right Palpatine shows up [TS]

00:58:53   and he and he runs and and that's the [TS]

00:58:55   end of it but instead it's much more [TS]

00:58:56   like smell you later or I don't think [TS]

00:58:59   which is just so lame I or at least [TS]

00:59:01   think that he's dead like that's the [TS]

00:59:03   other thing like if he's like body like [TS]

00:59:04   slid between the beneath the lava or [TS]

00:59:06   something right then he would actually [TS]

00:59:07   be totally dead [TS]

00:59:08   no no we learn from what we learned from [TS]

00:59:10   the core movie that he would float float [TS]

00:59:12   on top of it for wine so I yo diversity [TS]

00:59:15   Palpatine I wanted to say that this is [TS]

00:59:17   this is the scene that this is the same [TS]

00:59:19   that I kinda like the scene and here's [TS]

00:59:20   why I kinda like it [TS]

00:59:21   it is the best use of the Senate chamber [TS]

00:59:23   set yeah and all three movies because [TS]

00:59:25   after seeing the stupid Senate chamber [TS]

00:59:27   for all the boring Senate things and [TS]

00:59:29   stupid George are giving speeches and [TS]

00:59:31   all of that in this in this scene all [TS]

00:59:34   those little floating balls get hurled [TS]

00:59:36   around with the forest during a fight [TS]

00:59:38   between Yoda and Palpatine and I took [TS]

00:59:40   like the death of Newt Gunray I took [TS]

00:59:42   great Glee and the destruction of the [TS]

00:59:44   boring Senate chamber in the in the [TS]

00:59:46   fight it's not much of a fight and it's [TS]

00:59:48   sort of sad that you're dead ends up [TS]

00:59:50   crawling through like a ventilation duct [TS]

00:59:52   and endurance he was honest [TS]

00:59:53   yeah there's a yoda pajamas so cute yeah [TS]

00:59:56   we've seen two fights at this point [TS]

00:59:58   where the Great Master Yoda [TS]

00:59:58   where the Great Master Yoda [TS]

01:00:00   frankly kind of blows that lightsaber [TS]

01:00:01   whirring he's completely failed to take [TS]

01:00:04   down [TS]

01:00:05   Count Dooku and now we completely fails [TS]

01:00:07   to do anything against Palpatine right [TS]

01:00:09   well he didn't believe Alice but other [TS]

01:00:10   people point out he fights them to a [TS]

01:00:12   draw by himself so it seems like we had [TS]

01:00:14   one or two other people with him he [TS]

01:00:15   would have the upper hand and they take [TS]

01:00:17   care of this guy but then he crawls off [TS]

01:00:18   with his tail between his legs and it [TS]

01:00:20   doesn't have a tail would never see yo [TS]

01:00:22   to win a lightsaber fight is what i'm [TS]

01:00:23   saying if you're gonna show Yoda doing [TS]

01:00:25   lightsaber fights which i think is a bad [TS]

01:00:27   idea to begin with [TS]

01:00:28   have him win one yeah he's supposed to [TS]

01:00:30   be badass it was it was more or less a [TS]

01:00:32   dry didn't win but yeah like heaven and [TS]

01:00:35   the problem if that is his reaction is [TS]

01:00:36   like well now i guess i have to go into [TS]

01:00:38   exile is like you were so close that was [TS]

01:00:40   basically a drawing you're by yourself [TS]

01:00:41   if only you'd brought obi-wan with you [TS]

01:00:43   but he had to go to a lot of worldwide [TS]

01:00:45   Palpatine also was by himself i should [TS]

01:00:46   point it was pretty even technically the [TS]

01:00:50   whole thing is just I don't know I find [TS]

01:00:51   it ridiculously silly i find that the [TS]

01:00:53   whole Senate chamber i agree to the [TS]

01:00:55   center chamber is ridiculous [TS]

01:00:56   although this time for the first time [TS]

01:00:57   was the they ride the little Chancellor [TS]

01:00:59   platform upwards I'm like well that is [TS]

01:01:01   actually really unsafe like what if the [TS]

01:01:03   jets are fell off of patterns are for [TS]

01:01:04   Samuel baby i was a lot there's a lot of [TS]

01:01:06   pointy things in the chamber it's also [TS]

01:01:08   kind of ridiculous that they just [TS]

01:01:09   somehow end up rising up through the [TS]

01:01:10   floor it's got a real Marx Brothers feel [TS]

01:01:12   to it [TS]

01:01:13   well you think that's good it's the [TS]

01:01:14   swinging on ropes training Anakin and [TS]

01:01:16   obi-wan fight that really got me like oh [TS]

01:01:18   that's my ropes Tarzan noise that time [TS]

01:01:21   let's be honest this is the star wars [TS]

01:01:23   equivalent of the chase through the [TS]

01:01:25   warehouse in Indiana Jones and the [TS]

01:01:28   Kingdom of the Crystal Skull right it [TS]

01:01:30   other than the fact that great of the [TS]

01:01:32   Lost Ark is a treasure and start and [TS]

01:01:34   service episode 1 is not and so but it [TS]

01:01:36   is that is the wacky slap sticky [TS]

01:01:39   overblown fight scene that demolishes [TS]

01:01:41   asset that you know from a previous [TS]

01:01:44   movie it's the same thing you have to [TS]

01:01:46   also realize that they had to fix this [TS]

01:01:48   whole Senate chamber because the [TS]

01:01:49   Senators and dissolve like another 20 [TS]

01:01:50   years while I can maybe the Senate just [TS]

01:01:52   has to use the broken chamber for the [TS]

01:01:54   next 20 years and nobody like what [TS]

01:01:55   happened here was our Emperor involved [TS]

01:01:57   in some service trays lightsaber battle [TS]

01:01:59   can we dissolve the Senate now [TS]

01:02:01   nope nope gotta keep something if your [TS]

01:02:04   saucer was one of the ones destroyed you [TS]

01:02:06   have to sit in the bleachers [TS]

01:02:07   we also get the great mind-bending line [TS]

01:02:11   at an end your rule is and not short [TS]

01:02:13   enough [TS]

01:02:14   oh yeah like oh like Lucas just lost [TS]

01:02:17   track of how to make your talking NOT [TS]

01:02:19   some ridiculous i do like the scene [TS]

01:02:21   where he walks in the Imperial Guards [TS]

01:02:23   are there again a great instance of [TS]

01:02:24   Palpatine havin Taylor those costumes [TS]

01:02:26   for them already ready to get started [TS]

01:02:27   dispatches them immediately right there [TS]

01:02:29   were there were all so excited to [TS]

01:02:30   finally get the Wyndemere Chairman's my [TS]

01:02:32   first day on the job is pretty great i [TS]

01:02:34   like this helmet they all got have been [TS]

01:02:35   killed by you and break out the red [TS]

01:02:37   outfits [TS]

01:02:39   yeah surprise we have to let Taylor so [TS]

01:02:41   they're Taylor's they've got green red [TS]

01:02:43   outfits that right down the street from [TS]

01:02:45   the cloner planet so is anybody wonder [TS]

01:02:47   to jump back to a mannequin popping they [TS]

01:02:50   wonder why Palpatine bothers to save him [TS]

01:02:52   he's mostly dead at that point it's like [TS]

01:02:53   you can do he had another running out of [TS]

01:02:55   this shows what made him out of [TS]

01:02:57   midi-chlorians it's he's this guy that's [TS]

01:03:00   his son dude and now he's got all the [TS]

01:03:02   power in the world over him because he's [TS]

01:03:04   going to be this totally messed up guy [TS]

01:03:07   now [TS]

01:03:09   oh he's got he's got a lot of power to [TS]

01:03:12   manipulate the force he's a good guy [TS]

01:03:14   have also again a piece a piece we [TS]

01:03:17   sipped from a much better movie he [TS]

01:03:19   actually legitimately likes him and [TS]

01:03:21   seeing yourself season him something he [TS]

01:03:23   can really cultivate also I my tailors [TS]

01:03:25   have designed this black suit that's [TS]

01:03:27   really obviously you don't find a minion [TS]

01:03:29   this stupid every single day man put him [TS]

01:03:32   in the medical capsule and they put him [TS]

01:03:33   in a medical left thing and they treat [TS]

01:03:35   me like wheel along and it's a thing [TS]

01:03:36   that's totally open the elements and I [TS]

01:03:38   feel like you get like rained on and [TS]

01:03:40   wouldn't seem like if this guy's been [TS]

01:03:41   like have burned to death i don't think [TS]

01:03:43   you want to let him get rained on [TS]

01:03:44   seriously Anakin I was just kidding [TS]

01:03:47   about the younglings I can't believe you [TS]

01:03:48   did that [TS]

01:03:49   haha so I'm okay we got we basically got [TS]

01:03:53   a couple of scenes left to go and they [TS]

01:03:57   are really tough so we're gonna just [TS]

01:03:58   here we go here we go to everything must [TS]

01:04:00   go [TS]

01:04:01   so every reference factor so for reasons [TS]

01:04:03   we can't explain Padme has lost the will [TS]

01:04:07   to live not demand she dies the reasons [TS]

01:04:11   we can't explain we are losing her if my [TS]

01:04:13   riff my medical robot says to me for [TS]

01:04:16   reasons we can't explain their lives [TS]

01:04:17   sure I buy another medical yeah that [TS]

01:04:19   robot is terrible [TS]

01:04:21   oh come on that medical robot says boo [TS]

01:04:22   ba yah robots using wet currently it [TS]

01:04:26   doesn't know how to speak English and [TS]

01:04:28   then uses this giant spatula hand to [TS]

01:04:30   scoop out the baby that's like it's like [TS]

01:04:32   a see-through wii remote that disgusting [TS]

01:04:35   it's like a highlight thing think that [TS]

01:04:38   baby on a weapon against the wall right [TS]

01:04:39   last so she dies of movie disease [TS]

01:04:42   basically which is because she needs to [TS]

01:04:43   die she dies which is incredibly stupid [TS]

01:04:46   Campbell's lawful movie from further for [TS]

01:04:49   heroic Dame's the Dame that's to die so [TS]

01:04:52   that the hero seems to leave a little [TS]

01:04:54   more corrupted by it [TS]

01:04:56   chapter 12 it's right there black and [TS]

01:04:58   like an easy fix for this problem [TS]

01:05:00   what if she had been slowly dying [TS]

01:05:02   throughout the entire movie like what if [TS]

01:05:04   we find out an early scene that she has [TS]

01:05:06   a fatal disease she can be killed in the [TS]

01:05:08   war that's going on with people with [TS]

01:05:10   guns and lights if we set her up as like [TS]

01:05:11   in the in the first scene is like she's [TS]

01:05:13   got this terrible disease or something [TS]

01:05:14   at least Anakin has legitimate reasons [TS]

01:05:16   to do everything like she's actually [TS]

01:05:18   dying that is like I had a dream about [TS]

01:05:20   maybe her Diana can could accidentally [TS]

01:05:22   stabbed her when she's hiding behind the [TS]

01:05:24   curtain anything could have happened but [TS]

01:05:27   that doesn't happen it's that's really [TS]

01:05:29   frustrating but she does she does have [TS]

01:05:32   the droid midwives deliver a baby girl [TS]

01:05:35   and I want everybody to me watching it [TS]

01:05:37   which is super creepy yeah [TS]

01:05:39   Bail Organa Yoda and obi-wan are all [TS]

01:05:41   standing outside a transpass a [TS]

01:05:42   transparent window just like checking it [TS]

01:05:44   out [TS]

01:05:45   she has the the mecca modesty skirt [TS]

01:05:47   though you know what is with the [TS]

01:05:48   delivery room with the the one-way glass [TS]

01:05:51   it looks totally comfortable that's that [TS]

01:05:53   I'm sure any woman would love to deliver [TS]

01:05:55   while sitting on metal slab with a metal [TS]

01:05:56   chain thing covering it's just you know [TS]

01:05:59   move on galaxy far far away [TS]

01:06:02   not look comfortable I don't even think [TS]

01:06:03   you can get our legs far apart squeeze a [TS]

01:06:05   baby out [TS]

01:06:06   also how does nobody figure out that [TS]

01:06:08   she's having twins before yesterday and [TS]

01:06:10   today there will be technology sucks to [TS]

01:06:12   keep returning to a singular baby and [TS]

01:06:13   wood to show up they're not too [TS]

01:06:15   surprised but it's like she has names [TS]

01:06:17   for both of them ready to go yeah yeah [TS]

01:06:18   that was if it's a boy it's gonna end of [TS]

01:06:20   course they couldn't tell that either [TS]

01:06:21   she wanted to be surprised to grow [TS]

01:06:23   little belay oh it's both yeah oh I [TS]

01:06:25   gotta die now but i gave my name's [TS]

01:06:27   before I died [TS]

01:06:28   now i gotta die fortune which [TS]

01:06:31   just it is this is this is like the [TS]

01:06:33   height of movie this is like I mean like [TS]

01:06:36   babies being delivered in movies is not [TS]

01:06:38   a great track record they're often very [TS]

01:06:40   large and you know six months old and [TS]

01:06:42   all of these things and they come come [TS]

01:06:44   out in like a minute they're perfectly [TS]

01:06:46   clean [TS]

01:06:47   ok but Lucas has all of the cgi in the [TS]

01:06:49   world at his disposal couldn't have done [TS]

01:06:51   something that would have been it would [TS]

01:06:53   not have been cleaned don't encourage [TS]

01:06:54   him to make cg babies that have done [TS]

01:06:56   children of men i think y'all all CGI [TS]

01:06:58   the world can't fix the script though [TS]

01:07:00   and that's the problem here is that we [TS]

01:07:02   she needs to die and there's no good [TS]

01:07:03   reason for her to die and she just guys [TS]

01:07:06   such as they just didn't want him you [TS]

01:07:07   kill her in so many ways and so cheesy [TS]

01:07:10   disguise admirably she dies of being [TS]

01:07:12   said she's got her babies but that's not [TS]

01:07:14   good enough she said so she dies but [TS]

01:07:16   fortunately Jimmy Smits and his wife [TS]

01:07:18   will take the girl not am home and I [TS]

01:07:21   brought you that beyond that going one [TS]

01:07:22   way but they'll take the girl boy would [TS]

01:07:24   be crazy if there had been an accidental [TS]

01:07:26   switchy to be Smith's the I got to their [TS]

01:07:31   I got you thank you [TS]

01:07:33   so she gets to be so so let's get this [TS]

01:07:35   straight Leia gets to go to Alderaan [TS]

01:07:37   beautiful we get to see beautiful older [TS]

01:07:38   on goodbye real estate and um and it [TS]

01:07:43   gets to be a princess and be awesome on [TS]

01:07:46   Alderaan whereas i will take the boy to [TS]

01:07:48   tatooine where he will be in the sand [TS]

01:07:50   and fixing two rounds no place for a [TS]

01:07:53   woman budget did he call ahead because [TS]

01:07:55   i'm not even sure they've got a space [TS]

01:07:57   phone in their little tattoo yeah I feel [TS]

01:07:59   bad for Owen and Beru because what if [TS]

01:08:00   they want to have their own kids now is [TS]

01:08:02   like that we were gonna have her own [TS]

01:08:03   kids were kind of the right age when I [TS]

01:08:04   guess we gotta take and it seems like [TS]

01:08:06   they never do have their own kids from [TS]

01:08:07   can tell it was like he just he shows up [TS]

01:08:09   with the baby tucked into his robot is [TS]

01:08:11   like a brew [TS]

01:08:12   I got some for ya don't want to go into [TS]

01:08:14   too much detail about why I'm bringing [TS]

01:08:16   his baby but here no nothing to worry [TS]

01:08:18   about [TS]

01:08:19   very little chance with this little tyke [TS]

01:08:21   might someday college to be torched [TS]

01:08:22   alive and you're gonna stay here I like [TS]

01:08:25   that Jimmy Smith is totally like so we [TS]

01:08:27   got two kids dibs on the girl I'll take [TS]

01:08:28   it [TS]

01:08:29   yep will take also sending sending Luke [TS]

01:08:32   to his family under his own name i read [TS]

01:08:35   in Syria while back about like how [TS]

01:08:37   obi-wan just totally uses Lucas bait for [TS]

01:08:39   Darth Vader like that was gonna put him [TS]

01:08:41   out here with his family [TS]

01:08:42   we're leaving called Luke Skywalker [TS]

01:08:44   just sit around wait for Darth Vader [TS]

01:08:45   show up and kill this kid it's like [TS]

01:08:47   hiding in plain sight it's it's the it's [TS]

01:08:49   the the first off they tell him the [TS]

01:08:52   Emperor tells him that he killed her [TS]

01:08:53   ok that is actually cool i like that [TS]

01:08:55   what that is one bit that I like it I [TS]

01:08:57   like the Emperor lies to him and tells [TS]

01:08:59   him that you killed him because I feel [TS]

01:09:01   like that is a great captain be said but [TS]

01:09:03   again he and I don't like because he's [TS]

01:09:04   being duped again it's like well he [TS]

01:09:05   knows that he didn't actually kill her [TS]

01:09:06   she was alive when he left and he's like [TS]

01:09:08   but i guess i accidentally killed her [TS]

01:09:10   and couldn't tell because I of course [TS]

01:09:11   you can tell you killed a YouTube didn't [TS]

01:09:13   kill her she was he doesn't know that [TS]

01:09:14   she's that she was alive when he left [TS]

01:09:16   are you sure [TS]

01:09:17   shokdor into unconsciousness I nobody [TS]

01:09:19   has the farsi can tell when she's dead [TS]

01:09:21   or now that woman you don't like your [TS]

01:09:23   voice can tell anything in this movie [TS]

01:09:25   john the force does not do that because [TS]

01:09:27   we see obi-wan actually take her pulse [TS]

01:09:29   at one but they also the four slots and [TS]

01:09:31   lets the jedis put their hands on the [TS]

01:09:33   heads of people who are injured and make [TS]

01:09:34   them better all we want does it in a new [TS]

01:09:36   hope it gets done a couple times here in [TS]

01:09:38   this movie this all sorts of head [TS]

01:09:39   padding to just doesn't it it's another [TS]

01:09:42   example of him being duped and I think [TS]

01:09:45   that's okay i think i think that's ok [TS]

01:09:47   again in that different movie I think [TS]

01:09:48   that's ok because it's sort of completes [TS]

01:09:50   his transition like now there is nothing [TS]

01:09:51   left for him you know and so we've got [TS]

01:09:53   that story which comes from the Emperor [TS]

01:09:55   but meanwhile obi-wan and Yoda have [TS]

01:09:57   crafted this other story which is weird [TS]

01:09:59   we're going to hide the boy in plain [TS]

01:10:00   sight on Tatooine and i'll be one is [TS]

01:10:04   going to be nearby but not trained him [TS]

01:10:06   or do anything other than hang out but [TS]

01:10:07   btdubs remember Liam Neeson well hold on [TS]

01:10:11   hold on [TS]

01:10:12   ok so so uh so any meanwhile there is [TS]

01:10:15   another right so we've got her stashed [TS]

01:10:18   away somewhere else but then before you [TS]

01:10:21   go to go as he says he says clygon has [TS]

01:10:25   figured out how to become a ghost [TS]

01:10:29   you should talk to about it's totally [TS]

01:10:31   cool yeah it's awesome even was that [TS]

01:10:34   present well that's like are so that's [TS]

01:10:36   how ob1 talk to Luke all along he [TS]

01:10:40   learned it from the ghost of qui gonn [TS]

01:10:42   they have three movies and they didn't [TS]

01:10:43   show that anywhere it's like what we [TS]

01:10:44   know in the original trilogy this all [TS]

01:10:46   starts to go stalking from ben and if it [TS]

01:10:48   had three movies to either establish [TS]

01:10:50   that as a normal Jedi thing or make it a [TS]

01:10:52   special thing on his way to the last 30 [TS]

01:10:53   seconds of the third movie they actually [TS]

01:10:55   talk about that like one episode one [TS]

01:10:57   i'm out i remember reading an interview [TS]

01:10:59   where he's like oh yeah you see qui gonn [TS]

01:11:01   dies but you still see his body [TS]

01:11:02   we're gonna explain why he doesn't join [TS]

01:11:05   the force like obi-wan does and like I [TS]

01:11:07   remember waiting for that and they [TS]

01:11:08   literally shoehorn it into the left's [TS]

01:11:10   two minutes of the movie and don't even [TS]

01:11:12   really explain it [TS]

01:11:13   you know one of those things that did [TS]

01:11:14   not need an explanation no no just just [TS]

01:11:17   like that missing planet that the only [TS]

01:11:19   went into the Jedi library to find the [TS]

01:11:20   right out like okay I can you know how [TS]

01:11:23   did why did they erase that well you [TS]

01:11:25   know is a computer but anyway look at [TS]

01:11:27   this point we don't have any other [TS]

01:11:28   Young's to ask the answer [TS]

01:11:30   no prob now so so qui gonn who we've [TS]

01:11:33   never heard from Racine is apparently [TS]

01:11:35   still talking to Yoda and has become a [TS]

01:11:37   ghost clone or not it but not to his [TS]

01:11:39   apprentice so i think we established he [TS]

01:11:41   hates at the beginning the first [TS]

01:11:42   yeah yeah so the late so they leave the [TS]

01:11:45   droids in the care of the captain wiping [TS]

01:11:49   threepio's mind while they have that [TS]

01:11:51   Padme funeral where she's very creepily [TS]

01:11:53   holding the thing a child Anakin gave [TS]

01:11:55   her and we're supposed to feel like this [TS]

01:11:57   is a romantic sign of loss that just [TS]

01:11:58   made me think about the creepy age [TS]

01:11:59   difference again that i always think [TS]

01:12:02   that that close-up is [TS]

01:12:03   Hey look we've made her look pregnant so [TS]

01:12:05   that no one thinks she's here that is [TS]

01:12:07   that is what it is yeah [TS]

01:12:09   wait that doesn't make any sense and we [TS]

01:12:11   see Jar Jar at the funeral and we're [TS]

01:12:12   reminded that it's all jar jar's fault [TS]

01:12:14   yes accurate the droid thing wipe only [TS]

01:12:18   threepio's braid r2d2 like laughs at it [TS]

01:12:20   yeah or it is like arguing you can't [TS]

01:12:22   talk you just those bleeps and bloops [TS]

01:12:24   that no one except for every protocol [TS]

01:12:25   droid in the universe can understand [TS]

01:12:26   exactly what you might be important I [TS]

01:12:29   just like the idea that r2d2 spends the [TS]

01:12:30   rest like the next 15-20 years griefing [TS]

01:12:32   c-3po but remember that time we do you [TS]

01:12:35   want to remember what you if Archie's [TS]

01:12:37   you could roll his eyes they would be [TS]

01:12:38   constantly rolling it's just like we do [TS]

01:12:41   I feel like he says he who a lot in the [TS]

01:12:44   next couple of years were captain [TS]

01:12:46   Antilles two last things to do okay [TS]

01:12:49   first off we need to we need to address [TS]

01:12:50   not only does the Emperor say in your [TS]

01:12:52   anger you killed her but we get to hear [TS]

01:12:55   James Earl Jones asked about about Padme [TS]

01:12:58   in the famous Darth Vader voice and then [TS]

01:13:01   we get a dot and then we get the moment [TS]

01:13:04   which is after he discovers the padma is [TS]

01:13:07   dead Darth Vader badass villain of the [TS]

01:13:09   universe [TS]

01:13:10   says no it's not complete without the [TS]

01:13:16   stumble out of his little his little [TS]

01:13:18   prison table oh yeah breaks out all the [TS]

01:13:20   wrinkles Frankenstein's monster [TS]

01:13:21   stylishly Frankenstein's yeah I see [TS]

01:13:24   here's the thing i thought it would be [TS]

01:13:25   so much cooler if we saw it like a [TS]

01:13:27   primitive version of his armor like not [TS]

01:13:29   having him just on like I'm Darth Vader [TS]

01:13:31   remember me but like like yours from [TS]

01:13:33   your action figure remember that [TS]

01:13:34   Taylor's they had would have been [TS]

01:13:36   awesome in the mask and the stuff all [TS]

01:13:37   ready to go unless they've got like some [TS]

01:13:39   3d printers in the back or something or [TS]

01:13:41   that's a standard mask and they're like [TS]

01:13:43   eight guys who got breathing problems [TS]

01:13:45   and nothing [TS]

01:13:46   yeah that's just a sleep apnea mask is [TS]

01:13:48   this is another place where I I I wish [TS]

01:13:51   to myself that the prequels head and [TS]

01:13:53   suck so bad because the shot of the mask [TS]

01:13:55   sliding into place and the breathing [TS]

01:13:56   starting up would have been really [TS]

01:13:59   really great i grieve this film had been [TS]

01:14:01   different than earned yeah what yeah i [TS]

01:14:03   wasn't i think i wrote my notes that's [TS]

01:14:05   the capper man like it's the point where [TS]

01:14:06   it's like it's just this really happened [TS]

01:14:09   this is actually how this all plays out [TS]

01:14:10   this is actually cannon ah I drink the [TS]

01:14:13   entire bottle of whiskey [TS]

01:14:15   that's the end of the no drinking game [TS]

01:14:18   is after you see the scene just drink [TS]

01:14:20   until you pass out night I think the [TS]

01:14:23   scene the scene as we end up with is the [TS]

01:14:25   real capper to the movies the [TS]

01:14:27   appropriate end but i I just I i [TS]

01:14:29   disremember like exactly right in that [TS]

01:14:32   was in that theater i can rewrite the [TS]

01:14:34   movie as you go but this was almost like [TS]

01:14:36   a painful thing to watch like that's not [TS]

01:14:38   what happened he doesn't know it's like [TS]

01:14:41   what if you really want your not later [TS]

01:14:44   if you really want to set them up for [TS]

01:14:46   episode 4 he pauses for a second and [TS]

01:14:49   then says good [TS]

01:14:51   oh that would be pro yeah see but no bad [TS]

01:14:54   because then he started favor and send [TS]

01:14:55   this is my for my opening statement this [TS]

01:14:57   is not this does not Darth Vader the end [TS]

01:15:00   in 20 years of of going around and [TS]

01:15:02   kicking around because he got fooled [TS]

01:15:04   into doing this and his wife died and [TS]

01:15:05   now he's trapped in this suit I just [TS]

01:15:07   don't feel like that d Glee the darth [TS]

01:15:10   vader brings to being the enforcer of [TS]

01:15:13   the Emperor's will across the galaxy and [TS]

01:15:16   strangling people for displeasing him I [TS]

01:15:18   just have a hard time drawing a line [TS]

01:15:20   from this guy to that guy do [TS]

01:15:23   this is an antique never grows up and it [TS]

01:15:25   never becomes an adult he is always the [TS]

01:15:26   little kid the little brother [TS]

01:15:28   the kid who did I could he'd never [TS]

01:15:30   becomes fully adult and the any just [TS]

01:15:33   replaces one authority figure with [TS]

01:15:34   another he never becomes Darth Vader he [TS]

01:15:36   really is like that kid in that focus [TS]

01:15:38   wagon super bowl ad that's what I really [TS]

01:15:40   think we have yes he is he's dressed [TS]

01:15:42   like guess he's dressed like darth vader [TS]

01:15:44   but he's not third fader that's cute [TS]

01:15:46   honey that's cute on you like you I like [TS]

01:15:47   your darth vader costume night my kid [TS]

01:15:49   had more gusto than this Vader it's [TS]

01:15:52   really more like the kid who got crushed [TS]

01:15:53   by the flat screen TV [TS]

01:15:55   it can i mentioned the creepy targeting [TS]

01:15:57   stand-in at the asbury you because this [TS]

01:15:59   place because this was the other the [TS]

01:16:00   other scene we've got is we've got the [TS]

01:16:02   dossier around the ship and we got the [TS]

01:16:03   guys and they're out in their death star [TS]

01:16:05   outfits and we see the structure of the [TS]

01:16:07   frame of the death star being built for [TS]

01:16:08   20 years to build that thing but only a [TS]

01:16:11   couple of minutes to blow it up [TS]

01:16:12   uh-uh-uh and there's a weird there I [TS]

01:16:16   thought it was a guy who's supposed to [TS]

01:16:17   put you in the mind of Tarkin but they [TS]

01:16:19   made up a guy to look like Peter Cushing [TS]

01:16:21   they made a model is friday look like [TS]

01:16:23   they're shutting his corpse maybe like a [TS]

01:16:25   cgi model rubber mommy could have saved [TS]

01:16:27   a lot of time and I was really curious [TS]

01:16:29   about is my google this guy down like he [TS]

01:16:31   looks nothing like him but there's all [TS]

01:16:33   these pictures online of like the tart [TS]

01:16:35   like an actual promo shot of him as [TS]

01:16:37   target he's not identified as such in [TS]

01:16:38   dialogue only in the credits appearance [TS]

01:16:40   for what 10 seconds maybe look at all [TS]

01:16:42   the time they spent making him up to [TS]

01:16:44   look like a character just so we can [TS]

01:16:45   have that link remember those movies you [TS]

01:16:47   love ya and it's between that darth [TS]

01:16:50   vader standing on the bridge of a Star [TS]

01:16:51   Destroyer equivalent the candy for like [TS]

01:16:55   you know the scene in there we have all [TS]

01:16:56   these things that are like alright we're [TS]

01:16:58   wrapping it up you get everything back [TS]

01:16:59   and then the capper which is we're going [TS]

01:17:01   to stand on Tatooine in the exact same [TS]

01:17:04   spot that Luke will stand 20 years from [TS]

01:17:06   now [TS]

01:17:06   no they're not going to stand on how to [TS]

01:17:08   win this this is why was the capper a [TS]

01:17:10   binary sunset was outdoors this looks [TS]

01:17:13   for all the world like they're in front [TS]

01:17:14   of a green screen but it states the [TS]

01:17:15   transparent attempt to call back ends [TS]

01:17:17   the best seen in the entire trilogy yet [TS]

01:17:20   now that they're trying to do that but i [TS]

01:17:21   think it's emblematic of like they took [TS]

01:17:23   a scene that was like one of the most [TS]

01:17:25   naturalistic scenes a new hope right [TS]

01:17:27   where is actual someone in you know [TS]

01:17:29   where was ten the actual binding outside [TS]

01:17:32   on location and they said how can we [TS]

01:17:34   rekindle that magic I know green screen [TS]

01:17:37   no that's not how you do it basically [TS]

01:17:40   they say f it up to the very last drop [TS]

01:17:43   but you can see what they're trying to [TS]

01:17:44   do here right this is your montage of [TS]

01:17:46   memories from the beginning of Star Wars [TS]

01:17:48   and we're gonna we're gonna grab it and [TS]

01:17:50   I get ready totally see Luke on tatooine [TS]

01:17:53   with binary sunset as the last shot a [TS]

01:17:56   movie you know very early on there like [TS]

01:17:58   that's the last shot of the movie we [TS]

01:17:59   just have to get there it shouldn't be [TS]

01:18:01   too hard right it'll be okay we get [TS]

01:18:03   there right we did so well with the [TS]

01:18:04   first two movies we got this one right [TS]

01:18:05   close your eyes think of Star Wars so [TS]

01:18:08   it's so ham-fisted is especially the [TS]

01:18:10   thinking and I and I don't understand [TS]

01:18:12   why the green screen like the head [TS]

01:18:13   location shooting there didn't they say [TS]

01:18:15   Fred they left and forgot to get that [TS]

01:18:17   shot crap we got to put that one of the [TS]

01:18:19   schedule allergies doing post and i [TS]

01:18:20   don't i don't know if it's all green [TS]

01:18:22   screen think some of it maybe location [TS]

01:18:23   but there are definitely shots in that [TS]

01:18:25   for all the world looks like they're in [TS]

01:18:26   front of a green screen is that like [TS]

01:18:27   there's no way Lucas at the tunisia [TS]

01:18:29   again like my understanding was that [TS]

01:18:31   they shot those scenes during the [TS]

01:18:32   shooting of episode two [TS]

01:18:34   we're usually they just didn't know [TS]

01:18:35   those things were going to be in there [TS]

01:18:37   and they dropped a man yeah but it [TS]

01:18:38   doesn't it digitally ancestors fails it [TS]

01:18:41   fails on so many levels it's a microcosm [TS]

01:18:43   it's a science emblematic of the [TS]

01:18:45   failings of this you know not just the [TS]

01:18:47   plot feelings but this is emblematic of [TS]

01:18:48   the aesthetic failings of the movie with [TS]

01:18:50   all that the cg unnecessary cg and [TS]

01:18:53   people in front of green screens and [TS]

01:18:54   failing to evoke emotions by doing [TS]

01:18:56   something in a way that that is not [TS]

01:18:58   naturalistic yeah we think we can it we [TS]

01:19:00   think we can improve upon what is [TS]

01:19:02   natural by like carefully controlling [TS]

01:19:05   every single element that goes into it [TS]

01:19:07   to make a perfect thing right but [TS]

01:19:09   whereas what was great about the [TS]

01:19:11   original in some way where its flaws [TS]

01:19:13   where its natural like the things that [TS]

01:19:15   were limitations of the time that meant [TS]

01:19:17   that they had to find workarounds that [TS]

01:19:18   what that's what made that one succeed [TS]

01:19:20   when it turns out when you can control [TS]

01:19:21   the entire environment everything feels [TS]

01:19:23   sterile and dumb [TS]

01:19:24   well let's see if they could do it [TS]

01:19:25   better if they could make it so i [TS]

01:19:27   thought they were on location [TS]

01:19:28   more power to him but they couldn't they [TS]

01:19:30   could I didn't pull it off right it's [TS]

01:19:32   like I don't mind them trying to say [TS]

01:19:34   we're never going to get this perfect [TS]

01:19:35   magic our sunset will make one up if you [TS]

01:19:37   can convince me that they're really [TS]

01:19:38   there i'll buy it but if you can't [TS]

01:19:40   convince me don't do it just shoot them [TS]

01:19:42   on location [TS]

01:19:43   you just got you know you gotta do what [TS]

01:19:44   you gotta do to anyway this is such a [TS]

01:19:46   minor point in a movie that has so many [TS]

01:19:48   major things wrong with it was just like [TS]

01:19:50   one little step is like by the way we [TS]

01:19:52   can screw up scenes instance in big ways [TS]

01:19:54   and small and here's just one little [TS]

01:19:56   sharp poke a stick before we leave [TS]

01:19:58   never have I been less excited to hear [TS]

01:20:00   the jaunty star wars end music and so [TS]

01:20:04   the three [TS]

01:20:05   yeah hey it's over and I kept thinking [TS]

01:20:08   ugh just like a good why did I that's it [TS]

01:20:11   for the last hour and twenty as being [TS]

01:20:13   punched in the face yeah with no respite [TS]

01:20:15   of any kind when you're praying for [TS]

01:20:18   stupid c-3po puns [TS]

01:20:20   you know I know you've been ruined that [TS]

01:20:22   is dad's that's a bad place to be [TS]

01:20:24   I felt I felt 30 but i did actually [TS]

01:20:26   wonder where the terrible c-3po puns [TS]

01:20:28   where Anthony Daniels i guess that i [TS]

01:20:30   checked out after episode 27 by spent [TS]

01:20:31   all the episodes free pretty much [TS]

01:20:33   checked out and yes I get kind of rolls [TS]

01:20:35   over me and just like wake up long [TS]

01:20:37   enough to be angry about bad writing and [TS]

01:20:39   stupidity but it's just like this and [TS]

01:20:41   then they didn't do anything to make me [TS]

01:20:43   like I remember watching us in the [TS]

01:20:45   theater for the very first time in like [TS]

01:20:46   I wasn't trying to be standoffish I [TS]

01:20:48   wasn't being like I'm going to go in and [TS]

01:20:50   I'm gonna hate this like I'm you know [TS]

01:20:51   I'm paying to see the movie i'm willing [TS]

01:20:54   to be up to let the movie take me but it [TS]

01:20:56   never even never even made a little like [TS]

01:20:58   tentative gesture towards my [TS]

01:20:59   heartstrings and like didn't even come [TS]

01:21:01   close it was just like every part of [TS]

01:21:03   that is me my no hang-ups part of that [TS]

01:21:06   is the first two movies maybe being [TS]

01:21:07   unfair to it but just looking at the [TS]

01:21:09   movie again without all those hang-ups I [TS]

01:21:11   felt like it still didn't grab me that [TS]

01:21:13   clearance the closest I got was maybe [TS]

01:21:15   like the opera scene where you see some [TS]

01:21:16   good performances and then as andy said [TS]

01:21:19   we just spend the rest of the movie [TS]

01:21:20   making your own movie in your head they [TS]

01:21:21   would've been better than this [TS]

01:21:22   yeah the worst thing for me is that it [TS]

01:21:24   didn't even like episode 1 i'm i [TS]

01:21:26   actually liked but I realized that I I [TS]

01:21:30   admit this out right so much of that [TS]

01:21:33   fondness is because of nostalgia with [TS]

01:21:36   episode 3 it wasn't even value to me as [TS]

01:21:40   a nostalgic piece it was this what this [TS]

01:21:42   wasn't Star Wars this wasn't kept these [TS]

01:21:44   were characters that I really like and I [TS]

01:21:46   couldn't even really evaluate this as [TS]

01:21:48   bad storytelling does this look like [TS]

01:21:50   here that the ear the that the the line [TS]

01:21:53   that this is the this [TS]

01:21:54   is so wrong it's not even wrong it's so [TS]

01:21:57   that's how not right this is I do [TS]

01:22:00   does anybody want to place this among [TS]

01:22:03   the sequel among the prequels it where [TS]

01:22:06   does this one ranked what what's the [TS]

01:22:07   what's the best and the worst i mean [TS]

01:22:09   there is this common thought out there [TS]

01:22:11   the this is the somehow the best of the [TS]

01:22:14   of the prequels uh I know we've heard [TS]

01:22:17   some somehow somebody's opinion here I [TS]

01:22:19   I'll go first and I'll say you know what [TS]

01:22:21   for all the terrible things about [TS]

01:22:22   episode 1i think kind of that episode [TS]

01:22:25   one is the best one only because in some [TS]

01:22:27   ways it's not as offensive it is a dumb [TS]

01:22:30   kids movie family moving but you know [TS]

01:22:33   it's got the pie and the Padres goes on [TS]

01:22:35   too long but the i can i can actually [TS]

01:22:38   like recall what happens in episode 1 [TS]

01:22:41   and it's got some things that are ok and [TS]

01:22:43   it and it's got some things that are bad [TS]

01:22:44   and that Lake groundwork for worse but [TS]

01:22:47   in the grand scheme of things having [TS]

01:22:48   revisited all of them now I kind of [TS]

01:22:50   think it's the least offensive of the [TS]

01:22:52   bunch [TS]

01:22:53   it also has the benefit of being the one [TS]

01:22:54   that you can completely separate from [TS]

01:22:56   star wars in your mind [TS]

01:22:58   yeah really you know I can separate all [TS]

01:23:00   three of them but even more so like [TS]

01:23:01   seven is the child the child Anakin [TS]

01:23:03   doesn't even connect with the adult [TS]

01:23:04   anacott so it's like this whole [TS]

01:23:06   undertaking world that took place in a [TS]

01:23:08   movie that happen to have lightsabers i [TS]

01:23:10   can go back and go better than that the [TS]

01:23:13   it's I think that episode one is my [TS]

01:23:15   favorite of the three and I think its [TS]

01:23:16   sexy again I actually enjoyed it partly [TS]

01:23:18   because even if we divorce it completely [TS]

01:23:21   from Star Wars i can name a bunch of [TS]

01:23:23   scenes that I absolutely love like the [TS]

01:23:25   opening scenes were if you we we see [TS]

01:23:27   quite on and Anakin escapes from McCann [TS]

01:23:30   and obi-wan for the first time and they [TS]

01:23:32   are absolute badass Jedi which we have [TS]

01:23:35   never suit with what we were used to the [TS]

01:23:37   elderly lovely don't give into hatred [TS]

01:23:40   now we want to think very carefully and [TS]

01:23:43   it's like no they're badasses who will [TS]

01:23:45   plunge a lightsaber through a three foot [TS]

01:23:47   3 foot what a thick door a carved a hole [TS]

01:23:51   in it to get at the people on the other [TS]

01:23:53   side of that door the the battle between [TS]

01:23:56   between our guys and and Darth Maul I'll [TS]

01:24:00   against its kind of it's kind of silly [TS]

01:24:02   to have these berries that drop-down [TS]

01:24:03   really for no mechanical reason but [TS]

01:24:07   you realize that wow this is like [TS]

01:24:09   furious furious hand-to-hand battle that [TS]

01:24:12   has to stop and you had see you see [TS]

01:24:14   these two groups of people that like are [TS]

01:24:16   like caged Tigers just like waiting for [TS]

01:24:19   this barrier to drop so that they can [TS]

01:24:21   start fighting again it had it had [TS]

01:24:22   moments like that where i could say i [TS]

01:24:24   really enjoyed those scenes even the art [TS]

01:24:26   direction I i like the whatever they [TS]

01:24:28   shot in Italy all those interiors and [TS]

01:24:31   exterior of Naboo with that it's all [TS]

01:24:34   about Italian architecture that it feels [TS]

01:24:36   those were felt like real spaces and [TS]

01:24:38   we're kind of interesting to look at in [TS]

01:24:39   a way that in later movies it's all just [TS]

01:24:42   digital you know imaginary digital [TS]

01:24:45   worlds with people dropped into [TS]

01:24:46   backdrops and and I don't want to say [TS]

01:24:49   too much positive about episode 1 I [TS]

01:24:50   don't think it's a good movie i didn't [TS]

01:24:51   really like it i think i think it could [TS]

01:24:54   have been edited much better but [TS]

01:24:57   compared to the other two anyway what it [TS]

01:24:59   what other people think we're just [TS]

01:25:00   episode 3 ranked among the the prequels [TS]

01:25:03   that's better than episode 2 that's [TS]

01:25:05   first i'm only trouble placing with [TS]

01:25:07   episode 2 because like I found episode [TS]

01:25:09   3i found in both very forgettable [TS]

01:25:12   but if you force me to watch either [TS]

01:25:14   episode with two or three again I would [TS]

01:25:17   probably and maybe just realized i saw [TS]

01:25:19   three i would probably pick to be forced [TS]

01:25:21   to watch it like they're don't like [TS]

01:25:22   either one of them it's like would if [TS]

01:25:24   you had to pick up some sleep episode 12 [TS]

01:25:26   sighs I can adjust Rank 2 and 3 against [TS]

01:25:27   each other [TS]

01:25:28   someone said you have to watch one of [TS]

01:25:29   the prequels and it's like six months [TS]

01:25:31   from now see didn't just watching one [TS]

01:25:32   which one would you choose to watch two [TS]

01:25:34   or three two because you can kiss kind [TS]

01:25:35   of zone out guys [TS]

01:25:38   I don't like sand haha i know but listen [TS]

01:25:41   just had the same terrible line below [TS]

01:25:43   loves there was a time that I would have [TS]

01:25:45   said too because i really liked the the [TS]

01:25:49   Camino stuff but when we watched it the [TS]

01:25:52   community stuff doesn't look it doesn't [TS]

01:25:54   look as good now as it did back there [TS]

01:25:55   now it looks just kind of crowded I is [TS]

01:25:58   packed with Steve was saying that like [TS]

01:25:59   the second half of this movie is just [TS]

01:26:01   just entertain greenery [TS]

01:26:03   yeah it's not entertained I don't care [TS]

01:26:04   about that locker room i love dark grim [TS]

01:26:06   things i hope this is my wife isn't real [TS]

01:26:08   and gritty in a good way this is andrea [TS]

01:26:10   morning mars-like watch it is not [TS]

01:26:12   entertaining because I don't get a grim [TS]

01:26:14   things only work if you're like if [TS]

01:26:16   you're caught up in it like oh [TS]

01:26:17   this is terrible i could you like that [TS]

01:26:18   type of thing but if you're not caught [TS]

01:26:19   up with it is just not entertaining [TS]

01:26:21   there's nothing there to entertain you [TS]

01:26:23   it's a tough call but i suspect i would [TS]

01:26:24   i would probably go with three as [TS]

01:26:27   preferable because even though i don't [TS]

01:26:28   enjoy watching and especially that last [TS]

01:26:30   hour or so there's at least a changes up [TS]

01:26:33   periodically where episode 2 is just [TS]

01:26:35   video game sequence after videogame [TS]

01:26:37   sequence after videogame sequence and [TS]

01:26:40   here the baddies I little bit of change [TS]

01:26:42   in tone a little bit change in pace [TS]

01:26:44   I don't enjoy any of it but episode 2 [TS]

01:26:47   honestly it makes me avert my eyes it [TS]

01:26:49   certainly is because i'm just so tired [TS]

01:26:51   of seeing the cgi thrust at me [TS]

01:26:53   constantly creepy and I can i was i [TS]

01:26:56   think it was thinking episode to wonder [TS]

01:26:58   what would ever want to see you again [TS]

01:27:00   about episode 2 like why would I [TS]

01:27:01   possibly pick that over three this [TS]

01:27:03   Coliseum scene has them running away [TS]

01:27:05   from monsters for ya but I'm trying to [TS]

01:27:07   think of an end of an episode of tv [TS]

01:27:08   wonder what do I seem to have that I [TS]

01:27:10   want to see you again maybe the space [TS]

01:27:12   battle line to get this thing about the [TS]

01:27:13   movie and you get a ram chip [TS]

01:27:14   yeah maybe the space battle I'd want to [TS]

01:27:17   see ships flying around cuz i like the [TS]

01:27:19   ships but it's like that anyway that all [TS]

01:27:20   this is to say that that i would [TS]

01:27:22   probably put episode 1 above the two [TS]

01:27:24   because i can think of two things in [TS]

01:27:25   episode one that i want to see again the [TS]

01:27:26   lightsaber battle which no one speaks [TS]

01:27:28   and it's a good life three pounds book [TS]

01:27:30   well choreographed and I guess I like [TS]

01:27:33   the podrace you know again a lot of [TS]

01:27:35   dialogue and they race around sort of [TS]

01:27:36   the rest of movies execrable and yeah [TS]

01:27:39   thats i would probably say episode 1 is [TS]

01:27:41   first then two and three are in a dead [TS]

01:27:42   heat for second but I would never watch [TS]

01:27:44   anything i think i think what I'd say is [TS]

01:27:46   episode 2 has some better stuff in it [TS]

01:27:49   than three but it also has some really [TS]

01:27:51   nails really terrible stuff and well um [TS]

01:27:55   I like i said i like the rain the rain [TS]

01:27:57   planet seen a lot i was good i think the [TS]

01:27:59   coliseum with the monsters part is ok [TS]

01:28:02   then of course all the just show up and [TS]

01:28:05   it's stupid but also that c-3po cracking [TS]

01:28:08   jokes and little about oh my god that is [TS]

01:28:10   so good but so this is what i'm saying [TS]

01:28:11   is i think there's I think there's [TS]

01:28:13   better and worse stuff into than 3 [TS]

01:28:15   whereas in three I look at a time just [TS]

01:28:17   like me you know [TS]

01:28:18   well tell us what what do I want to go [TS]

01:28:20   back and watch an episode 3 and I can't [TS]

01:28:23   even I can't pick out a single thing i [TS]

01:28:25   agree with you on Episode one though [TS]

01:28:27   it's not depressing and it's not [TS]

01:28:30   entirely bored [TS]

01:28:31   which puts it above both of the other [TS]

01:28:32   films for me yeah unlike us if you are [TS]

01:28:35   not required to opportunities that some [TS]

01:28:37   sort of strange podcast torture [TS]

01:28:39   experiment by an evil mastermind uh-huh [TS]

01:28:41   then you don't have to watch these ever [TS]

01:28:43   again and neither do i I never have the [TS]

01:28:45   watch is ever getting in there this is [TS]

01:28:47   what I was gonna say is good news [TS]

01:28:48   everybody [TS]

01:28:49   you never have to watch the prequels [TS]

01:28:50   ever and again [TS]

01:28:53   yeah that's my goal when the force [TS]

01:28:54   awakens it is going to have one hell of [TS]

01:28:56   a hangover is well what was the last 20 [TS]

01:29:00   years back [TS]

01:29:01   jeez I don't remember anything after the [TS]

01:29:03   equal he walks i scratched out after he [TS]

01:29:06   walks that was in that blue milk [TS]

01:29:10   the thing that I alluded to in the in [TS]

01:29:12   the in the preamble to this [TS]

01:29:14   yeah I have one really good thing to [TS]

01:29:16   thank you so did 34 because when we when [TS]

01:29:20   we were when we schedule this I had a [TS]

01:29:23   dim memory that maybe I might have [TS]

01:29:25   bought episode three on DVD like getting [TS]

01:29:29   used DVD so or something me to about it [TS]

01:29:33   i bought it used on like five years ago [TS]

01:29:35   and it just SAT and exactly it's like [TS]

01:29:37   it's at least as I i distinctly remember [TS]

01:29:39   i might have bought but never watch it i [TS]

01:29:42   just bought it because ok for five bucks [TS]

01:29:43   I will have it and so I looked through [TS]

01:29:45   like my DVD collection couldn't find it [TS]

01:29:47   then look through that box that I have [TS]

01:29:49   of dvds that never made it onto the [TS]

01:29:51   shelf and then finally made it to well I [TS]

01:29:55   that is I think there's like a box full [TS]

01:29:57   of kind of dvds from stuff for my last [TS]

01:29:59   move like you know like eight years ago [TS]

01:30:01   or whenever for whatever what the the [TS]

01:30:04   DMV your cleaning up or just things go [TS]

01:30:07   into boxes finally 5k there it is [TS]

01:30:09   follow their that must be here is like [TS]

01:30:11   episode Star Wars like d.video is still [TS]

01:30:13   in shrinkwrap just I thought what I [TS]

01:30:16   found and I would not have found these [TS]

01:30:18   because they would they were all the way [TS]

01:30:19   in the garage [TS]

01:30:21   unless i was searching for episode 3 was [TS]

01:30:23   I've totally forgot that i'd bought on [TS]

01:30:27   DVD during like they 13 days it was [TS]

01:30:30   available for sale [TS]

01:30:32   the actual uncut the actual theatrical [TS]

01:30:35   releases of episode 4 5 6 on DVD paired [TS]

01:30:39   with the restored additions and [TS]

01:30:41   prohibitions but I had been like I [TS]

01:30:44   that must have must been really busy [TS]

01:30:46   when i bought these I had never even [TS]

01:30:48   opened them and that and now i have on [TS]

01:30:51   my media server copies of the theatrical [TS]

01:30:53   releases of the Holy trilogy that I [TS]

01:30:56   would not have had enough in searching [TS]

01:30:58   for episode 3 you got the gout [TS]

01:31:01   yeah georges georges original on also [TS]

01:31:04   trilogy that's what that's called you [TS]

01:31:05   that you found the Geo UT I I like holy [TS]

01:31:08   trilogy I think it's more respectful [TS]

01:31:10   bear more reverent and i would recommend [TS]

01:31:12   that if you people always ask me what [TS]

01:31:15   they should watch for the Star Wars [TS]

01:31:16   movies that in there like what should i [TS]

01:31:18   buy or whatever I said buy whatever you [TS]

01:31:19   want to buy the blu rays or whatever so [TS]

01:31:21   you feel like you have a morally [TS]

01:31:22   fulfilled your obligation to give money [TS]

01:31:24   to the people who made these movies and [TS]

01:31:26   then go download army specialized [TS]

01:31:28   edition yeah right now then and that's [TS]

01:31:30   that's what I keep in my you know if I [TS]

01:31:32   want to watch Star Wars that's what I [TS]

01:31:33   watch and I have bought all of the [TS]

01:31:35   plastic discs with these things on the [TS]

01:31:37   many of times over [TS]

01:31:38   so I feel my obligation to Lucasfilm [TS]

01:31:40   whatever the owners are is more than [TS]

01:31:42   fulfilled as I bodies movies again and [TS]

01:31:44   again but i don't watch but Harvey's to [TS]

01:31:46   specialized is the way to go [TS]

01:31:48   they look the they're the best looking [TS]

01:31:49   and it incredible technical job to put [TS]

01:31:53   them all together based on all these [TS]

01:31:55   different sources and color corrected [TS]

01:31:56   and it is the closest you're gonna get [TS]

01:31:58   to the original idea of what the trilogy [TS]

01:32:01   is supposed to be at the highest quality [TS]

01:32:04   and that's the problem with the gout [TS]

01:32:06   ones they're not great quality right [TS]

01:32:08   yeah yeah but the harmonies it's that [TS]

01:32:11   they're taking blu-ray sources and HD TV [TS]

01:32:13   broadcasts or Alive no meter from [TS]

01:32:16   Princess laser discs are all these [TS]

01:32:18   different sources and putting them [TS]

01:32:20   together and actually in all those [TS]

01:32:22   sources in the same shot matting things [TS]

01:32:24   out and occasionally you'll see a light [TS]

01:32:26   or you know you get the you have the [TS]

01:32:27   same speed of the landspeeder going by [TS]

01:32:29   and like parts of it are fuzzier than [TS]

01:32:31   other parts but it is that's what I look [TS]

01:32:33   like in the original an awful may look [TS]

01:32:34   like a smeared Vaseline underneath yeah [TS]

01:32:36   it was not get like a recent yeah they [TS]

01:32:39   did but it's a that's the way to go [TS]

01:32:40   don't you obsessive nerds on the [TS]

01:32:42   internet I know it's amazing that's [TS]

01:32:44   that's what the Internet's point it's [TS]

01:32:45   probably your brain rebels against it [TS]

01:32:47   and I do i also have the that I also [TS]

01:32:49   have the fixed if you the special [TS]

01:32:51   editions but every time I i I'm not even [TS]

01:32:53   capable of judging it critically because [TS]

01:32:56   every time something have [TS]

01:32:57   and in episodes 4 5 & 6 that i do not [TS]

01:33:01   remember happening for the 20 years in [TS]

01:33:03   which I saw the classic edition the [TS]

01:33:05   brain says wait that's wrong that's the [TS]

01:33:07   at that didn't happen that way and so [TS]

01:33:09   whatever you have to do to get the [TS]

01:33:11   theatrical release is worth whatever you [TS]

01:33:14   have to do to get it for me [TS]

01:33:16   we're giving you carte blanche internet [TS]

01:33:18   we forgive you [TS]

01:33:21   yes do what you must do it I can think [TS]

01:33:24   of no better way to end this opus this [TS]

01:33:28   this adventure we've taken through all [TS]

01:33:32   six existing Star Wars movies just in [TS]

01:33:35   time for a seventh to arrive this [TS]

01:33:38   december i don't know what we're gonna [TS]

01:33:41   do about that but probably talk about it [TS]

01:33:43   stay tuned for 18 consecutive hours of a [TS]

01:33:47   telethon about our new sub bass Jason [TS]

01:33:50   the force awakens sub-caste coming in [TS]

01:33:52   there's absolutely no way this one is [TS]

01:33:54   going to suck a chance to make sure this [TS]

01:33:58   time for sure this time for sure they [TS]

01:34:00   should call this one can't possibly suck [TS]

01:34:02   so thank you to my fellow adventurers [TS]

01:34:04   and Ian Coates been pleasure [TS]

01:34:05   oh god that was fun Steve let's thanks [TS]

01:34:08   for taking this journey through the [TS]

01:34:09   prequels especially with us at an end [TS]

01:34:11   this podcast is and not short enough it [TS]

01:34:13   was as serenity Caldwell a pleasure as [TS]

01:34:17   always thank you for for talking about [TS]

01:34:19   all these star wars movies with me be [TS]

01:34:22   that's a good trick did more in thank [TS]

01:34:27   you very much [TS]

01:34:29   the pain is slowly subsiding finally [TS]

01:34:31   after these many years John siracusa [TS]

01:34:34   thank you i was thinking just to be safe [TS]

01:34:37   there should be no couches in episode 7 [TS]

01:34:39   no couches that would make me feel more [TS]

01:34:41   comfortable and anyway for the [TS]

01:34:43   incomparable I've been Jason Snelling to [TS]

01:34:46   exile I must go failed i have with you [TS]

01:34:49   next time [TS]