238: Caucus with the Dark Side
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the entire little number 238 mar 2015
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welcome back to part two of the
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incomparable drive-by shooting of star
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wars episode III Revenge of the Sith i'm
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your host Jason Snell this is part two
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part 1 was last week if you hadn't
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listened part1 yet you should because
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you're missing our hour-and-a-half where
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we talked about barely passed the crawl
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but we've got the rest of the movie our
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last of the prequel trilogy ready to go
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my guests are Dan Morgan John siracusa
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serenity Caldwell Steve let's and andy
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and not coming can we pause on the like
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the kitchen stuff kazoo please callprice
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proper name
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zoom zoom that's not a name and let's
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talk about the the next Palpatine Anakin
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scene which work that because that is
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the one actually for me that's the
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that's the scene in the movie that I
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actually love where Anakin finds out
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that Palpatine is a Sith Lord and that's
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that's the only moment of betrayal that
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sort of feels real and feels true all I
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don't understand why he doesn't
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immediately just you know put them in
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shackles and walks away but don't you
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feel like it's the scene is the scene
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from the wrong trousers the boss and
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ground we were faster or takes out the
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rubber glove and and walls because I got
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it daddy we have so you wanna sit Lord
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but yes you'd like anna has the last one
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of the galaxy to figure that out
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no no one else in the galaxy is figured
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just the audio well they should have
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everybody should know else because
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everybody's been hoodwinked can you tell
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i'm a Sith Lord now how about now back
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now how about now haha
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there could be such a good rifftrax
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version of the scene that we could make
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but I really do feel like there are
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again it's the scene itself is not
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perfect but there are elements to the
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the way that he slowly kind of spins out
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who he is when he talks about Padme and
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we talked about there are things that
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can be done and again really praying on
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his trust to the point where Anakin is
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legitimately legitimately like holy crap
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you're crazy person
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why have I been listening to you your
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your horrible any I must inform the Jedi
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Council you know I'm i feel horribly
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betrayed like this is it again a scene
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from an alternate movie a much better
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movie where
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Palpatine is his mentor and his idol and
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then all of a sudden Palpatine basically
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in a in a way to try and help him and
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pull him over to his worldview kind of
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reveals too much his hand Anakin's like
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whoa ok you know you've made my decision
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a lot easier i'm gonna go to the Jedi
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Council now like that that pulled me
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into the movie and then of course the
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whole Jedi Council saying is done
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because a UH mechanical sensors yeah
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they have good they have hologram google
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hangouts though that's well i'm curious
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what if you're going to check in
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remotely to the Jedi Council do you have
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to sit in a similar chair in order to
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generate or just hollow skype
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automatically more for you into a proper
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comfortably seated position no that's
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not what I started to give you something
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like are they sitting in your same the
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hologram is a filter are in the chairs
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that's how it works is this is this just
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like this that chat cam is fitted with
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microsoft hololens like they're not
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actually there
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yeah that was not very nice at the
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wookies procured a yoda sized hollow
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chairs they did well he know his people
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bring that along with him
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grotius in his little almond shaped
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spaceship yes
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incidentally my favorite my favorite
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quote from that second Anakin Palpatine
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is i think is that where he says you
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know that dark side and my first thought
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was yeah i'm at once or twice you know
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in a bar
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nothing serious maybe you've heard of it
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how does it work I'm a relief carving in
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the background of that they're like this
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another and another setting with it like
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the opposite staging i thought was
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interesting and so was them having this
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confrontation little Dan front of that
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in front of that carving the that this
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that's actually the scene where I wrote
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down the McDermott is pretty good but my
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problem with its ready you're exactly
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right that the issue isn't with the
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the issue is with you have not earned
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that scene yet because because what we
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want to see is Anakin feet feeling like
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he trusts that the Chancellor and that
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and that when he reveals to him that
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he's a Sith Lord he already knows he's
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come along
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he's completely bought in instead of it
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being like he's kind of a bumpkin who
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needs to figure it out he should be with
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him there and you need for him to want
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something you need to i want something
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impossible and believable for this big
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notion like I had a dream a couple
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seasons ago now
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but totally convinced my wife is gonna
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die and I'm also totally convinced the
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only way I can stop her from dying is
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going to the dark side and killing
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children like this is nonsensical like
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it doesn't
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there is nothing he wants I want to
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believe that he has been truly would and
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he is a full-on believer in the cause
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here and not that he's using it as a
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means to an end and that's what it is
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I i just think that it's so it will be
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so much stronger if even the audience is
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now sort of questioning that she would
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we've always our opinion of the Jedi has
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been formed based on the Holy trilogy
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these two Jedi that we're familiar with
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that are very very good people
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what if like the rest of them are kind
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of jerks that they that they sort of
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came up from it would be so much easier
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and so much more interesting as the
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audience if it were like and Anakin is
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like a conservative Democrat Palpatine
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is it considered I'm sorry's of moderate
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Democrat Party is a moderate Republican
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where it is so easy to simply say that
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to make that little ships well you know
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these people have but the the people on
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the other end of the aisle have been
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demonized in my mind for so long
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actually now that I understand this one
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person and his point of view
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maybe I should be or maybe I should be a
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city instead of a Jedi and make us in
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the audience think you know actually the
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Jedi are kind of being jerks in that
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they're still kind of unfocused and what
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they're doing in love i love that you
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used a political metaphor there and
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because that's perfect i can hear
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Palpatine saying please and can caucus
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with my partner is a half cab and we
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think that single pads doomed to fail
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it's supposed to be politics in the
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movie anyway yeah exactly use a metaphor
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to explain it because it's so far
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distant from actual politics that's what
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it's actually supposed to be it's
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supposed to actually ioa clearly see my
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way this is a perfect place for the
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worth of the use of death panels and yet
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nobody even once
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what what what I actually went to the
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with the death panels of one of this
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lightsaber could not cut through that
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we're talking there those are ratios
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close though ratio and I must go now i
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am about to do a filibuster and I will
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be back now he's gotta go back into his
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office and call people for money for
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nothing bro
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disclosure i will be back I've got to
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jc's pancake breakfast I actually feel
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that it's okay that he's not wounded in
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this scene i actually I like the fact
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that Anakin is like I've bought into so
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much of your bullshit and now that you
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know now that you're actually pulling
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back your your your hood so to speak
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I'm actually horrified i like that you
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know he's he's antagonistic is like I I
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want to kill you I I need to like this
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is this is awful i need to go away i
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need some time to think because the
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again that there's a scene in this movie
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that almost works and doesn't as for
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tiny tiny fraction of a second but
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Palpatine is even playing here because
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Papa Gino's this is going to be as
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reaction wants him to go back yet go
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back to the Jedi and set like it's he's
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setting up the next scene which has its
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own major problems but he is setting up
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well the next the next scene does have
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its major problems but this is the again
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the the fantasy arc that i want for
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Anakin worries like i trust Palpatine
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Palpatine's betrayed me
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I'm going to the Jedi Council I've given
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this information to mace window
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he's doing this you know he's doing this
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and while he's doing this I start to get
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doubts because oh god you know maybe
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they'll kill him he's you know he is my
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father figure I should be there and then
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on top of that i have this worried about
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my wife and then you have him basically
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they're witnessing mace basically
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threatening to do what he was afraid of
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and in impure in anger in shock and like
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in I don't know what to do he ends up
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killing one of the greatest Jedi Masters
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that's the interesting thing though it's
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like if if you want to build that like
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in my in my fantasy universe and it can
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swap to the dark side is basically his
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complete and utter horror at i have
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fought like in a in a freak reaction
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I've given up all of my dread I training
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by killing this person and now i have i
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have sunk to the very lowest of the low
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and i don't know what to do with myself
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and I'm I'm completely shattered human
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emergent over the line and now there's
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no way back exactly there
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the Jedi Council could never take me
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back what would ob1 think of me I have
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no what like what would Padme think of
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don't know what to do i'm like if that
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is that is what i want and you get you
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get hints of it here in there you get
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hints of it in the previous scene and
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you get hints of it in the mace windu
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scene but then it all goes crazy because
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then he's like all right now I am upon i
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Ave you master forever i will be dark
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dark vader like it's bought it swaps way
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to lose weight too quickly but that's
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the movie i want but even the character
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came out of that you that was the movie
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that was there like the darth vader that
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came out of that it's like I've now gone
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too far I've made this terrible mistake
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and the Jedi will never take me back so
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I'm forced to go to the side that is not
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the the invader from a new hope you have
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a new hope is confident with it that
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he's doing what is necessary like he's a
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company man he is not like I've made a
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terrible mistake anam an outcast and I
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have to hang out with these losers he
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doesn't regret you know this is why you
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know so as long as we're talking fantasy
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versus this is this is why in my version
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you actually split this into and you do
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the fall of Anakin Skywalker as you're
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you can actually do that in such a way
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the end of this movie not to get too far
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Skywalker died and that you know most
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people are in the dark as to Anakin
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Skywalker is Darth Vader there's still
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compelling interesting story to be told
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there and we have an interesting reveal
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later on where you know we think you
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know it's kind of a double fake out
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because if we think that obi-wan is
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essentially caused Anakin Skywalker to
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die then we're watching you know
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episodes of four and five with this
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whole different mindset like oh my god
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Vader killing his dad because actually
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it was only one who killed his dad so
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it's kind of like makes a great red
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herring track there and I think you know
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by having this as John pointed out you
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know Darth Vader supposed to be a
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willing participant in this so this
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doesn't really sell in some way but if
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you have the idea instead that the
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tendrils throughout it's entirely
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plausible that you would he's got like
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you know we've already seen three or
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four different apprentices for him right
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so you know if we've already got this
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idea that maybe he would have developed
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you know Anakin and sort of slowly
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rather than having this cataclysmic
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during the rise of Darth Vader with the
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fall of the republic if Vader is sort of
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like seduced over before then and we
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sort of see him you know appearing in
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the armor or in like a mask or something
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that be straight trying to conceal his
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identity and maintain this dual life and
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feeling maybe you know not necessarily
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conflicted but essentially trying to
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hide from his wife and his friend what
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he is doing even though he believes it
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to be something that he needs to do like
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I think there's a far more compelling
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story there but that doesn't exist
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I think that would be really interesting
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with the exception of I don't think that
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he would ever kill children in that all
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that that's a whole separate yet seen is
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pointless property and cycling through
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Sith Lords like that's kind of like a
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running gag in his mouth yeah he goes on
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too many sick days but he can't make him
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that's that's something that I really
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wondered about because is this a case of
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musical chairs where Darth Vader became
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is the Emperor's right hand for 30 years
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simply because he was told he was the
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one left standing when he thought I'll
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or was laying down for an hour or was it
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or was it because Palpatine actually saw
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something in Anakin that he actually
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liked and respected saying that there's
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something I'm going to trust to be my
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again my fist throughout the galaxy
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this is the guy that I really want by my
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side when you finally going to discuss
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your legs guys the biggest dope this bit
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of the biggest cornhusk I've ever seen
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I've listed the issue right is that is
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that the the prequel trilogy Anakin you
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think Palpatine chosen because he's a
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convenient sucker
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whereas the original trilogy Darth Vader
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you think oh well he's the right hand
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because he's a he's a badass right but
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they don't connect they don't and like
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the whole idea is that the city like it
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it's the dynamically this presented the
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movies should be like that it's the
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strongest one and he also picks a strong
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as one and the other strong one
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eventually overthrows that one like the
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cycle repeats like it's you're trying to
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breed stronger and stronger since you're
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never going to pick a soccer because
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like why would you pick a sucker and
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went because you would always want the
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super powerful one and he has two he has
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to believe in the cause he has to be
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willing to like there can't be any the
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whole you know there is no conflict with
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the only time this there should be
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conflict invaders at the very end when
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Luke regimes and everybody's up that
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baby's got to be totally convinced of
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what he's doing is the right thing and
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you know
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it was kind of a shame when his wife
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died or was killed or however you want
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to happen but this is what the Galaxy
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needs like a dress that might address on
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this moment other than that you know if
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we go with the I create I created you
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using midi-chlorians you're my perfect
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you should be disappointed I created you
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and yours three dom medical reasons
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don't work i picked a random slave woman
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on Tatooine why I don't know the
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universe makes those joy is I created
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you and I wanted Michael but I got
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freedom I created you and I cannot
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create you
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let's go back to the real movie and I'm
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your only witness a fantasy movie we're
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gonna go back we're gonna go to Kashi
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core as we like to call it kazoo kazoo
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my the wookies are there my kids were
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watching at this point in there like AI
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remember this level from lego star wars
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so there's that
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it's now been at this point nearly 30
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minutes without a damn thing happening
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in the movie now and Steve to your point
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my note says 45 minutes in what is
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happening nothing is happening but then
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something happens for about 30 seconds
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and then nothing happens again yeah I
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think it's a really clever idea I i
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suspect that they are invading keshiki
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Ron life day because they're going to
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cash-strapped school keys off guard
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there is a big tree back in the
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background looks like it could be
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Chewbacca's tree it's possible we hear a
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really super cheesy Tarzan sound felt
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like that's the worst thing in the movie
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another riff 2 episode 6 which in that
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case yes also still kind of a dump truck
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super cheesy and we want talk to some
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clothes and takes off and yeah General
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Grievous is there at my notes at this
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point break down to this is all just
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nonsensical we show up but everything
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that happens in this movie is we show up
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at a random planet and then there's a
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plot thread and a fight that you have
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that you got the work is all behind
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their barrier and then once the thing
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start laying on the beach they'll jump
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over the barrier and then run down the
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beach to be shot at yeah I really like
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that uh obi-wan decides he needs to be
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really sneaky and so his choice get some
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reason to do that is to get on a giant
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list her rocker how ya feelin no
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senators yes John and I have the same
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notes it's a giant lizard that makes a
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loud high-pitched north and after if
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you're gonna spy on people are you
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losers feathers your pad my ride that
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desert my follow-up notice seems like a
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dumb plan obi-wan I like that the stupid
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Trade Federation guys are around
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actually sort of i was like oh yeah
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those guide nute Gunray alright remember
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when you thought he was going to be
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really important i like when obi-wan
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drops the big thing on and smooches the
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droids I thought that was I thought that
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was okay
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General Grievous gets his this is the
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most awesome christmas toy every moment
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where he's got the forearms and the spin
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light sabers i wrote down he seems
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Grievous seems like a little kids idea
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like you know what would be awesome if
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it is a robot with foodstuffs entire
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trilogy jumps into a little car wheel
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and spins around the world and the
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part of that fight is the bit where
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they're fighting on the random platform
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with the uShip in the back like the
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Starfighter there which is expressly set
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up so that when obi-wan has to escape
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later there's a Starfighter that he
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knows exists also bangs head on once i
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think for some reason pinhead shows up
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in this movie at this point yes meet
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obi-wan on he's got the same robe he's
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got the same head and everything I did
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like that i noticed this time around
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having watched this and again watching
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Star Wars rebels in like oh it's the
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same races the Inquisitor and sure
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enough it's i sent a plot to destroy the
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Jedi that is the worst line in this
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movie I'm gonna put that one
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I'm sorry there are a lot of bad lungs
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but like I i I'd the worst line has yet
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to call the worst line is at the end it
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someone gave him pages to the script
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there's like is if I flip ahead few
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pages i sense a plot to destroy the Jedi
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point of all the freakin characters to
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last through all three pre I know what I
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was happy to see nute Gunray honestly
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not Darth Maul but nope nute Gunray he's
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the guy you remove you remember him from
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that terrible first scene of the
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terrible first movie is so terrible
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had a couple comments of the obi-wan
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Grievous fight one that obi-wan is dumb
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enough to try and box him which seems
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really dumb idea when any metal well
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they do show him kicking him and hurting
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a shin so i gave the arms up to that to
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his bad robot designed to have your
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heart only protected by a couple panels
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and not like you know a solid light box
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made out of carbonite but i do think
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that his death is kind of cool and I do
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like that obi-wan shoot him with our
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last er yeah i gotta dig that will be
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one spends a lot of time hanging off the
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edge of things and its really good guys
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I guess it's barely on his feet
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the the really depressing thing about
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this fight is like for lightsabers
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should be a really freaking cool fight
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like it really should
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well I cool when he first deploys it
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well it is except for the fact that then
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anything moves so fast yeah and isn't
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again the medium the medium to close
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shot that you can't tell what the heck's
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going on it's just light everywhere
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there's light and not actually fighting
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or choreography or interesting
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yeah can like we're terrible
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choreography someone online told me as
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like as I was watching this and tweeting
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about it someone like episode one has
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the best fight scenes I'm like you know
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that's true it has much better fighter
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than any of the rest of the movies
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well I don't know where their stunt
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coordinator went but like yeah
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apparently they it was rape
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unfortunately when they cut our
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townhouse
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they also car trailer park in half and
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he's like nope can't work for you guys
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anymore sorry we have another instance
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here of obi-wan dropping his freaking
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lightsaber again ya feel it mr. said yes
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the wii remote strap but he does have
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the he that allows him to shoot groups
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with a blaster which is it is a kind of
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cool moment because that's the a han
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Solo away thousands of multiple times in
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the chest and road flare shoot out of
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his eyes
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yep it's clear that he has no longer at
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this point so why he's coughing I still
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don't know our IP general his weak point
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the lines so uncivilized got a half
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laughs out of me
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yeah i mean it never was ok but you know
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I get I think I that that fight scene is
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final but we don't really care that much
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about Grievous we do kind of care but we
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want because you're Gregory abused him
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with some sense of humanity a little
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yeah okay so the Jedi come to get
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Palpatine and this is a fight that I
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think I think John you talk about this
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on the talk show this is this is a fight
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where Russian many Jedi died very very
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very quickly and then there's a battle
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between Mace Windu and and Papa team i
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want to point out my my biggest beef
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with this entire movie starts here and
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that is that from this point on which is
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it at one hour and eight minutes right
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at the end of the grievous battle not a
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single positive thing happens in this
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film it is just relentlessly bleak
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there's there's nothing fun whatsoever
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there is no minor victories there's no
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comic relief not even of the you know we
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don't even have money or sutra do dat
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no Monica its there's nothing in it it
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seems like you know the chips were down
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an empire for a lot of it but there were
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still these little minor victories and
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there's that you know the escape from
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best been and all that stuff going on
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there are people to root for those Steve
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that's the thing there's someone to root
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for and hope that they survive in this
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case who do you want to survive that
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should lessen the pain not not make it
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worse haha but the fact is i mean even
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though i don't care about these people I
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still I just dread watching the rest of
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this movie because nothing good is going
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to happen it's just going to be crap
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fest after crapfest and you know it's
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just that's not what i wanted my happy
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funtime space adventure movie I i have
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to say the scene where Anakin tells mace
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windu i just learned a terrible truth a
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terrible line i expect them to break
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into song a little bit did mace windu
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seems really unsurprised by like a crap
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Molly better go arrest him and I wanted
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to samuel jackson be like mother that's
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right but he doesn't seem like he knows
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what to do with this rolls it's like
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that it's likely out they cast Sam
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Jackson and I asked him to act out of
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character be not Sam Jackson for this
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review please be anybody but Samuel
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Jackson will put you in the movie
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because you want to be in star wars but
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we're not going to let you be will give
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you a great fight scene at the end but
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you're gonna shave your eyebrows and
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make you say has some range if you've
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seen him another dramatic roles he has
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rain she can be downtrodden he could be
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he could become he could be some he's
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better as Nick Fury thousand allowed
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John he's better in the capital one card
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commercial but this was very I think it
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was very much riffing on with buzzes was
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his role in the jackie brown before this
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are after this because I'd really think
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that's the most similar character to
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what he was doing his mace windu that's
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the guy who mourn for they will
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definitely be a blow your head off or
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cut you're cut your lightsaber arm off
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but will also like will stop and think
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and figure things out
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he doesn't think very hard he says
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things like it's really dangerous to put
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Anakin and Palpatine together mere
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seconds after he's just done it
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yeah well though don't play myspace
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window for the words that he was forced
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to say that but by contract once again
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the the Emperor betters window fight is
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also really terrible it's it's very slow
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and ponderous in some ways and there's a
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huge reliance on the in McDermott's
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w-why jumping and flipping all over the
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place never doesn't look stupid like any
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scene where any of the Jedi do that like
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with Christopher Lee Orion McDermott
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anyone know you're not able to do that
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and yet it has to do the like jumping
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around and barrel rolling and spinning
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it's like it never looks good
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it's a crappy fight we should have
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desperately trying to get the high
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ground down
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yeah so that's a question that came up
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on the talk show about the scene as the
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essential question is is palpitating
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sandbag is he intentionally could he
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have killed mace windu easily yeah but
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worse than forced himself to now I don't
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think that's clear from the movie i
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don't think it's entirely clear because
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Mace Windu is put up is kind of like the
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most powerful Jedi and he you know it's
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unstoppable or whatever and you know it
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is is this gambit by palpating to say
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I'm gonna make it look like I'm about to
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die when really I'm not just for us
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Anakin to kill makes to bring over my
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side or was helping actually a little
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bit overwhelmed actually need and can to
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save him but knew that he would I think
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public is terrible acting answers that
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question ago
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oh I'm so we have to really soon we get
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that in that point he looks like he's
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sandbagging but all the previous points
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it looks like you're being legitimately
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beaten and if Anakin wasn't there to
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save you and like and then of course the
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problematic bars that may sighs I know
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we've got to kill him despite the fact
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that i totally don't do that you have to
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do it for purposes of the plot so you'll
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kill me whatever well because he is so
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powerful that I don't think I'll ever
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have command came killed the guy 20
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minutes ago
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my argument is that is that Palpatine is
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trying to stay clean and beat Windu with
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lightsabers and all that and then in the
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end he get he uses the force lightning
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and gets all super wrinkly and goes like
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he taps the final thing he needs is
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always been standing part is like well
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if he was if he was sandbagging why
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would he have ruined his face that badly
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she's like okay that never makes sense
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to me anyways there's no explanation of
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what causes that's little to make him
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look like he does in the other movie yes
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so Tom yeah I'm all wrinkly now but
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that's oh I it was just an injury that
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but was it that's what that's why I
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think he wasn't sandbagging because you
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wouldn't let that happen to you but
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basically the bottom line is i think its
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poor moving making that we can't tell
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what the clearly intention was
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with sandbags when Anakin walks in and
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this car and has conned by the Emperor
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into believing that this is a terrible
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Jedi plot does he miss the like pile of
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dead Jedi bodies events in the entryway
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criticism a skilled them to businesses
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just got nuts now he's killing
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everything that's a terrible Jedi plot
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but if the Jedi have come to assassinate
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him he's probably gonna fight back
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no it's a terrible Jedi plot in the
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sense that it's just a really bad plan
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why did he bring the worst three idiot
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Jedi with him to take hunt Appetit those
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guys go down so fast what those whose
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available Jedi just stand there and get
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stabbed yeah the rest of my Holograms
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did you Jedi are supposed to have some
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level of like danger sense right it
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might be able to tell when battle craps
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about to happen not in this case where
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they all get some merrily despatched the
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poor Jenna to get killed on the flower
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planet she just raises her arms in the
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air and he has to the ground it's like
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the worst death ever on these three guys
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are supposed to be like Windows guard
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and they go down like the the battle
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droids know they like that the enemies
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in a ninja movies like a one-at-a-time
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they just throw themselves onto the in
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yours their minions the only have one
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hit point oh that's okay just go right
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down there have been only one of them
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then i will say that this scene makes me
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sad because it again out so much stuff
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that's like brought in from the baggage
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of the clone wars series but there are
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characters here that i actually grew to
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give a quick give a crap about because
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of the clone war series like the most
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damning thing to me in this entire thing
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is when you know obi-wan's clone buddy
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Cody tried to have me killed and
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Commander Cody is a great character in
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the series was like steadfast and always
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by his side and like the scenes the
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clone more episodes that deal with the
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whole like loans being programmed to
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essentially accept this order and kill
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Jedi is super creepy and done really
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well because to in those cases it's
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always like they're sort of fighting
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against it and they don't realize that
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they've been programmed for this one it
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just seems like they knew all along and
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their back pocket like up time to shoot
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this guy the clones are characterized at
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all in this entire previous series like
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their characters in the clone war CD
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series and this is what Roy they were
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Stormtroopers they might as well have
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their helmet on because they look at
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them and they're not really characters
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anyway so just the morning father I mean
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I think Lucas was afraid to make
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characters that would die that people
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would be worried about right like story
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several little kids but Master Yoda
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yeah mine somewhere between episode 2
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and three coon guys to poor bloke une I
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loved him so
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Mace Windu dies and we get the crowning
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of of Darth Vader that you shall be
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known as let me check my relatives they
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did not maybe it was coming up we just
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had Darth Darth wacky white names
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haven't used yet dot fuzzy socks i was
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literally gone in alphabetical order em
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torana sabado yes that when I really
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liked that was going to be for my third
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child when we have darker anus but I
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think we'll skip that go good to the
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Jedi Temple do what must be done lord
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Vader and this is what I wrote in my
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notes are that are we now to believe
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that his visions of POD maze death might
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actually just be fake put in his mind by
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Palpatine because he seems to do it all
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because of POD may so that would be I
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just saying maybe that's the one that
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that's another in a better movie like
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this is exactly so I am so proud every
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time I and every time I'm watching this
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movie and I'm thinking always this of
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sophisticated isn't the subtle and then
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I think of no this is not the now I've
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seen the thing that was on this movie
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this is not the fingerprint of someone
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who's thinking that people also please
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execute order 66 I've given you a list
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of orders from 1 to 60 61 being the best
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66 being the most evil order 65 was just
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to get him lunch
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they're not really in priority order
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don't forget 57 which is to pick up my
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spike business but it's interesting that
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he only has to say execute order 66 to
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like one-third of the clones and the
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rest of them you know the lead clone can
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just turn them in knot and they know
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exactly what ya don't ya lol but has a
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secret program oh yeah
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420 so here's here's where it becomes
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even dumber that the stormtroopers are
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apparently clones because it's clear
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here that these clones can actually hit
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somebody with a blaster
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yeah well they call them off django fat
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and should be able to get something the
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other fields that there's something bad
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going on and he stopped something never
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trust clones that's the lesson we've
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learned here never trust a clown yet
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jodoli says danger sense it's not so
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easy to just walk up and kill you too
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apparently ok so that was my to board my
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to notice about this one of them is how
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do none of the Jedi survived except Yoda
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nobody won all the rest of the world
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that bad
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they're terrible you know why would they
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are made to look they're made to look
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incompetent these characters you know
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who are like sitting around the joint
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account let's remember this this is sort
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of proven false because they they have
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this whole like actions quote actual
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quote sequence which they got to get
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back into the temple to turn on the
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budget to modify the beacon so its
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warning Jedi not to come not to come
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which kind of indicates that they know
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there are others out there and just
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whatever whatever it is we're with tear
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up your membership cards definitely
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gonna be no more meetings can stop
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making lightsabers to pick up a pickup
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farm implements you are now in the
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you're now the SC business you're going
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to get started general Starr on the
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outer rim and just don't tell anybody
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about your past or started started a
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diner fifties diner maybe a cloner you
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got a lot of options
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the only reason i buy order 66 is the
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Jedi that were seen primarily are flying
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and otherwise working with clones that
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presumably they trust all of the people
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we show again we don't know just from
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watching this movie who they are but
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with clone wars back here you know
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backstory and all of that these are all
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fairly prominent Jedi leaders who have
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been working you know working on the
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front lines for the war so all of them
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presumably have clone troopers that they
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know and they trust and they've worked
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with so it's more it should be damning
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right it should be my you know who i
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thought had my back have now shot me in
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the back and I feel like a betrayal
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it is exactly it's a complete complete
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and total betrayal and that is why the
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Jedi fall so easily who are in sort of
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our are in turn around the clone
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troopers is that they don't expect it
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and they don't you know and they've been
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blinded by either Palpatine superpower
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or just hubris to not think that they
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might get hurt
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I i did think that was really cool it's
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sort of like oh my coma that's like
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imagine our country where it's like oh
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my god there's like a really really
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horrible we're being invaded
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don't worry each one of the Senators
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were going to have five army guys
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company you at all times oh great i got
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army guy got a personal 505 army guy
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guard like know they're there to make
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sure that when the final order comes
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there five people to shoot you
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I like that wasn't that wasn't there so
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many times so many symbols of this could
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have been a really really good
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plot a really really good plan but Jedi
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sense when other Jedi or anybody dies
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like that the whole reason that Yoda
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lives like oh he senses the other one
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die unless they kill them in exactly
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precisely the same on all the other ones
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are you there spidey sense to mix things
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are gonna have to be tingling all
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skilled at the same time
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Yodas a little further away and so with
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this man is because he's got a feeling
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he gets like oh something terrible's
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happening which is why when the Clone
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Trooper coming up behind him he loses
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his head in two seconds which is you
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know appropriate realistic possible that
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Yoda special the arm so Anakin goes to
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the Jedi Temple and kills all the little
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kids because it might save his secret
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wife yeah that's that's his logic I i
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believe i did the whole thing is
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motivated by crazy dream and his logic
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is if I kill these kids i will it will
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save my wife who will surely will surely
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still love me after I kill these kids
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man in secret alternate movie what I
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would love to have seen was Annika goes
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into the Jedi camp temple finds the kids
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heard them all into a room and it's
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basically like there are people
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attacking the the temple please don't
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come out hide in here then he goes in
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search of the other adult Jedi kills the
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adult Jedi he hasn't gotten all of the
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kids tiny little kid
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seize him seize him killing the Jedi
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runs off to tell the other kids
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yeah pretty much runs opportunity of the
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chaos being our tree up with your
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lifestyle chopping all of our Jedi
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teachers to bits but that but then he
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feels forced to kill the kids and then
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it's not just I'm sorry for he comes
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back to the room with the kids and his
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guys we're going to Chancellor
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Palpatine's daycare from now on or there
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are no young and stupid Jedi Temple to
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begin a young man hanging ding yeah when
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they find the bodies later apparently
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these children died of a broken heart as
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another character will later in this
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movie I guess there's not a mark on them
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didn't have the guts to say what they
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want you to think that he killed them
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but they didn't want to show a single
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scorch mark let alone blood or anything
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like that someone who seemed to have
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been killed by a lightsaber
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yeah they've been killed by lightsabers
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maybe their next walk I they say but
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they don't show it like it's made to
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show a bunch of kids laying down okay
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this isn't a dark movie job or something
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like they showed him on fire with his
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little calculator but our land and the
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turkey out thanks ok I want to know
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who's stupid kid is it that says Master
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Skywalker there are too many of the
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what are we going to do because that is
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the worst line reading in any Star Wars
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fan well that was a kid and I think
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Hayden Christensen who is an adult has
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way worse line readings man no no it's
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so so bad we get a and we also have our
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Chewbacca cameo around now which is like
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that couch Ibaka ok it's on a show you
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what it takes off in his almond in
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something yes that's right Jimmy Smith's
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we get to see he runs away run away
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Jimmy Smith sits back and still becoming
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president someday Jimmy and you go and
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he goes back to the white ship that we
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do this from the from the original star
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wars the white ship with black curtains
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I'll be one does what he always does
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which is land on a planet and do
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something and take off that's all he
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ever ever does it does it again many
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Jedi have been killed
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we get some nice use of the pot the
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passive voice their many Jedi have been
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killed by who
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somebody that you know knows he doesn't
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want you to look at the tapes he knows
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what's on them and this is when i hit my
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natalie portman despair and I wrote down
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if only we believed anything about this
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if only Padme were anything but just the
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girlfriend she does nothing worst fake
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crying Natalie sorry i love you
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worst fake crying I i like seeing the
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white ship the the you know what it was
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that the tension of Santa far for ya
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Fauria I like seeing that that would
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that means i remembered a good movie
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well I saw that part yeah to Steve's
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point about there being no comic relief
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this really depressing scene when Anakin
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goes back to talk to Padme and then r2
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who's been with him and like this is the
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thing that really upset yeah is that was
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our to witness to all the younger and it
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was ok with it right and so like having
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the droids be a party to Anakin's life
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totally corrupt them in our view because
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they're now tainted by association and
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so we get the line where Threepio says
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well he is under a lot of stress actual
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I think the most repeated line in this
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film though is our to stay with the ship
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so yes always being totally like I'm in
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the ship
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I've had to stay with the ship i am
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going to ship
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yeah it was ok with the killing and mass
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murdering of innocence my my heart will
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be crushed into Anakin comes to check on
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padmé and the baby oh by the way I just
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killed a bunch of toddlers
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yeah i'm gonna be a great dad blood on
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my hands sorry those are baby I did it
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for you look as you're gonna be okay I
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did it I did it for you baby yeah that
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dream I had about you is totally not
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gonna come true now i know you're really
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worried about I'm gonna be the greatest
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dad ever if ever we need to kill our
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kids I don't totally done that I also i
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can guarantee our son is going to be top
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of the classic Young's but here's a
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here's the most important part of the
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movie then is what happens next which is
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can you can you can you guess I have
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initiated a special session of Congress
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to blah blah blah boring boring boring I
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think that got me is there at some point
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I think it's the scene where the obi-wan
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is looking at the security footage he
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said something like oh we better go you
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know should we go confront the Emperor
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something I'm like really were already
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calling the Emperor like a one-day and
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proclaiming is going to empire we're
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just going to get that choice releases
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no I can't believe it
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it can't be true yeah okay yeah I can
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kind of believe that kid was always
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kinda screwed also did you notice that
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as soon as Anakin is fully on board as
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being Darth Vader they give him the evil
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ship to fly
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oh yeah it's like now no now that you're
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a Sith Lord you get the cool evil ship
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the park i also don't get why everybody
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in the Senate is that happy about the
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Empire they're like yeah I didn't they
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didn't spend any time explaining no I
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like people would go along with this
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this is how Liberty dies with thunderous
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applause yeah it's set up for that
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terrible wine which which in some ways
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could have been a good line in in that
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mystical other universe movie but like
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it doesn't make any sense here because
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we don't
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despite all the time we spent on
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politics none of those politics have a
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substance we have no understanding of
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why anybody would be excited about being
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in the Empire this is the official start
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remember the scene in patent
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where the there's this final scene in
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the the german bunker where every
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general is just burning papers as fast
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as they possibly can before the Allies
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come in this is to me that's like the
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the start of the part of this movie
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we're like we just have to start burning
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papers we start have to we have to start
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making sure that everything that happens
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after this rib for the 20 years between
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this movie and episode 4 makes some kind
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of sense they need to have needs to make
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sure that the emperor has absolutely got
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to achieve victory here he doesn't have
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to take out the Senate he doesn't have
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to would fight a long long campaign he
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is the victorious champion of a force of
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light that has that has gotten rid of
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those people who are filing those tax
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impound forms yes incorrectly whatever
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the hell was the train from someone says
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butte you know so yeah hooray so it
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isn't it's it and oh my god he was so
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horribly scarred he will bear like the
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that proudly the symbol of how much he
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sacrificed to make us would make us
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victory victorious and feel good about
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ourselves so it's almost like the
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Falklands at Falkland Islands conflict
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located in britain in like 1080p digital
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um I I like i mentioned nute Gunray
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earlier i'll enjoyed you can ray dying
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at this point it's like they're killing
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a part of episode 1 and i approve i have
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that line actually written down her a
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he's going to kill new country i know
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and i wrote two races to live is also
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align here somewhere I forget who says
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it but he says the Chancellor will not
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be able to control the thousands of star
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systems without keeping the Senate
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intact which one person he does outside
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for ya I'd like 20 years later 20 years
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and then he has all the Senate you know
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but it does seem clearly a setup line to
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be like all right we're gonna get back
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to this is that it's a tie back to well
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how how we get the no-fear will keep
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local systems in line fear what fear of
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this battle station but it's not built
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yet so you know you gotta keep yourself
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around just for fun and a hell of a long
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time to build that battle station it is
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they built they built the new one in
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like a couple years but now they built
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them both the same time clearly yyyy a 4
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11 and build whatever you can afford the
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price yes it's it's it's like
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pharmaceuticals you know the first death
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star takes two
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cost 80 trillion the second one costs
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only eighteen cents lost i didn't really
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finish the second i know they didn't
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they just made operational but it was
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still pretty much just superstructure
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this is like the superstructure my
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comment about Anakin killing all the the
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the sad racist red Trade Federation
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folks is the key if you the best he's
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standing out on that balcony is all
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cowled up and supposed to look angry and
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zooms in and you see is and cry yes
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singles hear you cry about the Ottoman
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I'm gonna die when that was the best
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across a lot only kids was fine i went
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back had me five minutes later and I was
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like everything's gonna be fine but i
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can't kill nute Gunray and it really
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upset me i have a newcomer reaction
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I've known him since I was a little kid
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your Jedi now I need don't know I
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remember when you were small and
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destroyed my ship accidentally exactly
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that then there's a scene in which he
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finally like collect like opens his
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mails been piling up
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congratulations or the Jedi Council
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confers upon you the title of Master
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sorry took us so long but you know we've
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been busy god dammit and the title of
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weepy a Sith Lord ghost in her a lot of
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iron eyes Cody moments in Anakin's shots
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here is very distressed about all the
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litter in the galaxy everybody decides
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to go to lava world seemed like that
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that led Padme says besides Threepio
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will look after me least reassuring
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wherever Threepio really get short
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shrift in this movie doesn't he doesn't
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have like three lines and all ya no puns
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he wanted to like his puns but for
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pete's sake also obi-wan Stow's away in
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the John of the ship
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yeah it's now carries that I also like
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whenever they whenever the Jedi use
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their force powers to close doors it is
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my favorite thing ever because he could
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especially push the button but even they
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just closed or the uh this is where I
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really kind of run out of any respect
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for or like of POD may well here's
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here's one thing you have to respect
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okay she's gonna give birth in a matter
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of hours to full seemingly to two
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seemingly full-term babies and and she
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prances down the walkway of that ship
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like like she is light as a feather yeah
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like she's like I'm going to give birth
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in hours and but look to poop you know I
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mean she's not very big it's fine she
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supposed to be pregnant with twins
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doesn't
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really quite work but she's just running
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around so she is a superwoman
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so in this scene again trying to set up
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Anakin as a different character than
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we've actually seen he says we could
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overthrow the Emperor and prevent rule
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together is where other and mothers for
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power come from nowhere
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yeah but her response to that is I don't
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believe what I'm hearing and i'm not
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sure why because this kind of fascist
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rambling is pretty par for the course
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for what Anakin is busted out in their
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political discussion so far i thought
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that was just natalie portman saying
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that you're right now it doesn't this is
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the best this is the best mean the worst
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line in the movie where it in this scene
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what you know George like what we need
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to have happened here is that Anakin
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needs to brake pad my heart
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ok pad me line ready yet Anakin you're
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breaking my heart you can't just write
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that you have to show us you can't just
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like I know you anymore stop now that
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person's name and you like it's a lazy
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flyball of things that you need to show
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on scene showing someone breaking
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someone's heart is not hard to do like
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it's already darn easy like a ball that
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it's not very subtle but have her to
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have her say the lines like you don't
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understand how writing works
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what are you doing at the delivery is
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different like I wrote down my note here
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was saying vs acting and so it really is
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just like these people are just reading
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lines these our actors who signed a
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three-picture deal they bore they were
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regretting that after picture 1 they
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can't get out of it the only way this
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line works is if she's sarcastic oh I
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Anakin you're breaking my heart
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that's the only way it works is written
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yeah it's it's a it's really really
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really badly forced jokes are my
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allegiance is to democracy most boring
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democracy versus tyranny there's another
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great line if you're not with me you're
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my enemy right now you can't you can't
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say you're against me because he didn't
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want to do a cliché read the line that
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immediately follows that is this only a
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Sith deals in absolutes I have to tell
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you obi-wan that's an absolute you not
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exactly we're just like unintentional
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intentional irony from that is unselfish
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we're completely unselfish where ya
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George Lucas or whoever goes wrote that
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line but I'm gonna say George Lucas how
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do you not realize that as you're
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writing that what this is a really good
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like it here's the thing about this
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movie is like we talked about week on
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the bad movies things we watch the core
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and stuff like if
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show normal person this movie they will
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laugh it seems that are not supposed to
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be because you can't like they're not
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they don't know this must have any
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reverence for Star Wars or anything
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they'll watch it and they'll laugh at
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the way you laugh at a bad movie and the
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only reason we're not able to do that
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for because we're so upset that they
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bring this is because here is pouring
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down your face stare at the screen
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yeah that's right just the single Tier
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one and what I say is I don't like this
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movie that's because you're so in love
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to say there's a hat
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I don't think we can suffice it to say
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because this like they're about it
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reminded me so many so much as man of
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steel remember a man of steel when you
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have action figures banging against each
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other yeah this lightsaber battle is
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like at this point you're totally you're
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totally signed out you truly checked out
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because of
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the ridiculousness of this entire thing
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and like they're going to hit
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lightsabers against each other's
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repeatedly for a long time with no
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dialogue pretty much like they don't
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talk to it they talk a little bit in the
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beginning and then it's like bang bang
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bang it's just like Oh bouncing around
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it was MIT's Man of Steel all over again
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any drama this saber battle might have
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had is completely dissipated by a bear
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around minute 40 not not short enough it
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was is what I'm trying to tell you who
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you know the lightsaber battle at the
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end of episode one isn't bad and this is
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not that this is part of it is being
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drained of any interest in these
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characters part of it is that it is like
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videogame figures banging up against
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each other
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I also feel that at some point right
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around here maybe when Steve cited a
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little bit earlier where it's sort of
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like nothing good happens past this
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point I feel like the movie shifts from
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being the obligatory list of references
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to the wii now we've this is the part we
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wrote early that we knew was going to be
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the end of the trilogy and then
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everything else is backfilled to that
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moment I feel like we're in that moment
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now we're now we're completely on rails
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and everything is just obligatory it has
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to be this way i wrote in a fanzine in
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1978 the darth vader lost you know was
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scarred in lava and so there has to be a
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lava planet and there has to be a battle
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and it is all a blanket or actors dots
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and it has to be bigger it's like it's
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like the bad version of Return of the
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Jedi we're like we needed even bigger
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space battle i think they pull that off
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its like this needs to be the biggest
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lightsaber battle the most banging of
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lightsabers together and they did that
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for sheer number of times two
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lightsabers hit each other this probably
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is the record but it's just monotonous
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and there's no pace to it and like i
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said i don't even talk to each other
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have the same compared to like the you
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know Empire Strikes vaccine with the
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with a battle that takes probably the
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same amount of time with like one
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ten-thousandth the number lightsaber
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clashes in 20 times the dialogue where
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should this not also be the ultimate yes
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decision sewing jamming the decision
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point of these characters there's one
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there's one moment in this that just
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makes me completely it it bring it like
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anakin it breaks my heart for the poor
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people of X guys because there's that
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moment where there are clashing and
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they're they're standing on some sort of
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a pipe or something and their
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lightsabers meet and then there's like a
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gigantic wave of lava that shoots up
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find him and I gotta see that and not
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think if this film had been done right
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how absolutely beautiful that scene
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would have been a helping hand moving
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and amazing it would have been and
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instead it's just completely wasted on
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this piece of crap this okay we've got
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it we've got an awesome fight that's
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lots of banging of lightsabers against
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other lightsabers the whole point of
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this fight should be this is the final
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moment not in lightsabers but in
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characters where obi-wan and Anakin are
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making their final arguments with each
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other right and that argument should be
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about well the jedis the Jedi is better
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you need to rethink this and all that
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and instead it's just where we're
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enemies now let's fight and see who wins
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and it's it's it's a shame this should
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this is the tragic core of the story
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except it's not it's just another
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lightsaber back even more than that
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Jason I think it comes down to the
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personal relationship these guys you
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know in a in a ham-fisted Lee delivered
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line from everyone later
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these guys are best friends these guys
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are others and your stretches and that's
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the falling out of two people who are
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like really good friends and that
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happens and it's so easy like again like
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John's point about the like breaking
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your heart seemed like that's something
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that is not hard to show but we want to
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feel that these guys who have suffered
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and been through so much together have
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just finally come to this these
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loggerheads and is the only way to get
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that out is that they're physically
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going to fight and and yet none of that
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it's totally robbed of any emotion it's
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a damn shame and how much more meaning
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that would have if if if Anakin had sort
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of gradually moved to a sort of semi
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reasonable position on the Sith instead
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of killing younglings right yeah
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also i am i'm reminded again to go back
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to the original trilogy of you know when
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last we met you were the master I I kind
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of wanted that here I wanted to feel
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more like this battle is a really open
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one holding it holding back because he
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can't bear and and there's a little of
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it but I felt like I wanted to feel like
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obi-wan's the master here he's got this
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the only reason this goes on is he's
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trying very hard not to kill Anakin you
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didn't have a real hard time leveling
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the power
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I'm a bit like the balance and writing
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40 isn't always the window the most
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powerful what about yoga but Hannigan's
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also be more powerful but in general
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obi-wan seems more as if you like the
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they don't have a good they never really
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established the power hierarchy of the
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Jedi despite the fact that they have
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explicit lines like my powers have
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doubled in blood like an 83 on the
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midi-chlorian scale it doesn't make
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sense how they stack up to each other
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which makes these which makes these
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scenes unclear again you know is obi-wan
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holding back is Palpatine holding back
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is like you never quite know where is
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the hierarchy of power so much clearer
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in the original trilogy you knew
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like what you know you knew how it went
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Emperor than Vader than luke and I can
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and it was born out and like you didn't
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think that that Luke was holding back
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and he could have defeated innovator and
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empire he wasn't like it was so clear
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and this it just it you know it makes
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that it makes you not care about them
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being lightsabers they save like the
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thing for the end where he actually says
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the lines like we were supposed to be
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friends like all right fine bad writing
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whatever but you just spent 20 minutes
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boring me by hitting your lightsabres
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together before you got to that seen you
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could have been doing that while you
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were fighting or in between and because
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the choreography could have been more
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impressive instead of having a visual
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effects come Center like there's some of
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the stuff makes no sense hero be one
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takes like a tactical retreat on to like
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a pylon or something like that and
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they're just beginning wedding where the
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robots they're robots that are doing the
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work at the in the planet which makes it
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even dumber because apparently I i was
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thinking like flying drugs with buckets
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seems like the least efficient way to do
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anything
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well then what are the odds that the
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flying bucket and the other flying
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platform happened to stay within light
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say that each other for the next week
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yeah they want to see a good fight too
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so you know there's no sweetheart it's
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the eight-year-old approach again like
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oh you'll be awesome lava different
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platforms in fact that not just that its
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fight choreography done by whoever it is
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is doing the video game design because
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to get can't remember what was that
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episode 2 in which drama dollars doing
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that I'm sorry in which apartment is
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doing the thing where she she lets you
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she finds herself like in a super mario
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land level
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yeah just jump over the swing of things
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and ducked out and then swing and now
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it's a left-to-right scroller thing it's
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like the problem
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yeah I'm surprised we don't get a donkey
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kong sound effect in some
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already had the cars and so does anybody
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want to talk about the tactical high
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ground that you have now I've got the
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high ground now an occasion you know
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like Darth Maul did that one time yeah
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and they have like they have this hold
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20 minutes scene of lights they're
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battling like they just didn't know how
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to end the like okay well this has to
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come to a conclusion somehow it's like I
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can't think of anything I must kill op
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have them stop talk to each other
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establish a nonsensical premise that
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will lead to the final event which will
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be that obi-wan winds like a mile of
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just said ok now the fight must end and
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the script says I should win so pleased
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you can cut off my legs now that they
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might as well done that it was associate
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and uh and the other thing that we
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should address i want to talk about
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universal Palpatine but we'll do that in
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a minute the other thing we need to
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address here is the fact that i don't
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really want to hurt you but you're gonna
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make me but once I've cut off your legs
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and your burning to death i'm just going
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to lady take a walk
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yes well I mean so here's the thing is
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like I actually like obi-wan's speech
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it's not the best it's not well written
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but it there is an element of
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genuineness and ewan mcgregor actually
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manages to convey certain emotions
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entirely the acting which is then
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completely ruined by the fact that he
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shows him no mercy yeah yeah just walked
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away like well you're supposed to be my
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brother but i'm not going to do anything
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even he's your suffering in anyway so
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now you're winners community of leaving
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the guy there to possibly survive and be
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turned into a semi robots huh
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the odds are solo ste I i will say that
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i can i did kinda by that because they
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were again if we need adventure that's
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this is good acting on the McGregor's
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part but I did get the the sense that ok
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well Anakin is dead
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okay he's gone he's dead I'm he's never
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going to come back i now owe no
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allegiance to this Anakin shape thing
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that's in front of me but still at the
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same time it's just there is an element
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of it that the Jedi are supposed to be
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bigger than that right and that's what
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we want from obi-wan is he supposed to
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be the bigger man and I think the main
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thing is that that advocates character
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is played by hayden christensen always
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comes off as the younger person in the
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relationship he always comes off as the
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whiny child and he never he never sort
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of comes into his own and takes agency
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and becomes like that
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i am now actively working towards a goal
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counter to yours is always tired of like
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a big brother little brother
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relationship where you never truly
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believe like well now you've made your
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choice and now you've made your bed now
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you have the line it's like and Anakin
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didn't make any bet he's just confused
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stupid kid and that's why you can I
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can't buy likely that thing that and he
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was saying was like it just doesn't it
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doesn't make sense that he would that he
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would say well mike is that you would
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still like the whole audience feels the
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whole time he's just a stupid idiot and
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doesn't have any idea what's going on
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and you will never keep it but the
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stupid idiot really left the movie when
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he started killing kids huh that's why
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it doesn't make sense of it but then but
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then what's the point of the whole you
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were my brother Anakin I loved you
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speech mean if he's if he thinks
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Anakin's gone and that the whole point
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of having that speech is pretty much out
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the window 2 i'm not saying that ever
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all this makes like really good tight
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one thing is it's more like it really is
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like this is I think this is true if i
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call this as we're talking about this
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movie we really are trying to piece
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together the wreckage of an airplane and
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trying to figure out what happened or
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which or or actually better yet I think
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it's more like an archaeological dig
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where we've got all these parts that
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we've dug up and we think they fit
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together this way and we're trying to
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figure out I know this is a mess of box
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of rocks and springs were looking at but
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where they tried to make an astrolabe
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where they're trying to make a
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calculator device and we can each try to
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figure out what they did for me I feel
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as though the intent of what what that
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scene was meant to do is just as ob1
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said in an episode for that at that but
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I'm sorry episode 5 in an empire at the
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mall at that point by sort of from
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certain point of view Anakin was dead
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and there was no coming back from that
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i'm saying i keep thinking what would
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have made Anakin or obi-wan I'm
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abandoning him better
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I i rather a different a different movie
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to let him out ok ok but no I actually I
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think if if a a bunch of clones or
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whatever had been had arrived and were
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shooting at him right if it was any kind
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of like like that's why that's the worst
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thing it's not so hard like you get your
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a movie with war is it getting the same
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thing without Padme dies it's so easy to
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kill people in the legitimate believable
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matter if they find these preposterous
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ways to kill major characters and have
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major plot points that like it's not
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hard people i want obi-wan to be under
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fire and not be able to finish the job
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and say maybe I'm sorry Anakin yeah and
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and leave and leave him to the clones
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and know that he's not gonna die is
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horribly right right Palpatine shows up
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and he and he runs and and that's the
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end of it but instead it's much more
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like smell you later or I don't think
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which is just so lame I or at least
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think that he's dead like that's the
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other thing like if he's like body like
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slid between the beneath the lava or
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something right then he would actually
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be totally dead
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no no we learn from what we learned from
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the core movie that he would float float
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on top of it for wine so I yo diversity
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Palpatine I wanted to say that this is
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this is the scene that this is the same
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that I kinda like the scene and here's
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why I kinda like it
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it is the best use of the Senate chamber
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set yeah and all three movies because
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after seeing the stupid Senate chamber
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for all the boring Senate things and
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stupid George are giving speeches and
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all of that in this in this scene all
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those little floating balls get hurled
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around with the forest during a fight
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between Yoda and Palpatine and I took
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like the death of Newt Gunray I took
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great Glee and the destruction of the
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boring Senate chamber in the in the
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fight it's not much of a fight and it's
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sort of sad that you're dead ends up
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crawling through like a ventilation duct
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and endurance he was honest
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yeah there's a yoda pajamas so cute yeah
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we've seen two fights at this point
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where the Great Master Yoda
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where the Great Master Yoda
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frankly kind of blows that lightsaber
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whirring he's completely failed to take
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Count Dooku and now we completely fails
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to do anything against Palpatine right
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well he didn't believe Alice but other
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people point out he fights them to a
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draw by himself so it seems like we had
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one or two other people with him he
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would have the upper hand and they take
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care of this guy but then he crawls off
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with his tail between his legs and it
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doesn't have a tail would never see yo
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to win a lightsaber fight is what i'm
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saying if you're gonna show Yoda doing
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lightsaber fights which i think is a bad
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idea to begin with
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have him win one yeah he's supposed to
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be badass it was it was more or less a
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dry didn't win but yeah like heaven and
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the problem if that is his reaction is
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like well now i guess i have to go into
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exile is like you were so close that was
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basically a drawing you're by yourself
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if only you'd brought obi-wan with you
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but he had to go to a lot of worldwide
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Palpatine also was by himself i should
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point it was pretty even technically the
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whole thing is just I don't know I find
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it ridiculously silly i find that the
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whole Senate chamber i agree to the
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center chamber is ridiculous
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although this time for the first time
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was the they ride the little Chancellor
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platform upwards I'm like well that is
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actually really unsafe like what if the
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jets are fell off of patterns are for
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Samuel baby i was a lot there's a lot of
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pointy things in the chamber it's also
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kind of ridiculous that they just
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somehow end up rising up through the
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floor it's got a real Marx Brothers feel
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well you think that's good it's the
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swinging on ropes training Anakin and
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obi-wan fight that really got me like oh
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that's my ropes Tarzan noise that time
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let's be honest this is the star wars
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equivalent of the chase through the
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warehouse in Indiana Jones and the
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Kingdom of the Crystal Skull right it
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other than the fact that great of the
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Lost Ark is a treasure and start and
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service episode 1 is not and so but it
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is that is the wacky slap sticky
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overblown fight scene that demolishes
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asset that you know from a previous
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movie it's the same thing you have to
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also realize that they had to fix this
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whole Senate chamber because the
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Senators and dissolve like another 20
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years while I can maybe the Senate just
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has to use the broken chamber for the
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next 20 years and nobody like what
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happened here was our Emperor involved
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in some service trays lightsaber battle
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can we dissolve the Senate now
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nope nope gotta keep something if your
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saucer was one of the ones destroyed you
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have to sit in the bleachers
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we also get the great mind-bending line
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at an end your rule is and not short
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oh yeah like oh like Lucas just lost
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track of how to make your talking NOT
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some ridiculous i do like the scene
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where he walks in the Imperial Guards
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are there again a great instance of
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Palpatine havin Taylor those costumes
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for them already ready to get started
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dispatches them immediately right there
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were there were all so excited to
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finally get the Wyndemere Chairman's my
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first day on the job is pretty great i
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like this helmet they all got have been
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killed by you and break out the red
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outfits
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yeah surprise we have to let Taylor so
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they're Taylor's they've got green red
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outfits that right down the street from
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the cloner planet so is anybody wonder
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to jump back to a mannequin popping they
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wonder why Palpatine bothers to save him
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he's mostly dead at that point it's like
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you can do he had another running out of
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this shows what made him out of
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midi-chlorians it's he's this guy that's
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his son dude and now he's got all the
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power in the world over him because he's
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going to be this totally messed up guy
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oh he's got he's got a lot of power to
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manipulate the force he's a good guy
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have also again a piece a piece we
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sipped from a much better movie he
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actually legitimately likes him and
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seeing yourself season him something he
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can really cultivate also I my tailors
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have designed this black suit that's
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really obviously you don't find a minion
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this stupid every single day man put him
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in the medical capsule and they put him
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in a medical left thing and they treat
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me like wheel along and it's a thing
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that's totally open the elements and I
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feel like you get like rained on and
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wouldn't seem like if this guy's been
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like have burned to death i don't think
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you want to let him get rained on
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seriously Anakin I was just kidding
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about the younglings I can't believe you
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did that
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haha so I'm okay we got we basically got
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a couple of scenes left to go and they
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are really tough so we're gonna just
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here we go here we go to everything must
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so every reference factor so for reasons
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we can't explain Padme has lost the will
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to live not demand she dies the reasons
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we can't explain we are losing her if my
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riff my medical robot says to me for
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reasons we can't explain their lives
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sure I buy another medical yeah that
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robot is terrible
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oh come on that medical robot says boo
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ba yah robots using wet currently it
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scoop out the baby that's like it's like
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a see-through wii remote that disgusting
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it's like a highlight thing think that
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baby on a weapon against the wall right
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last so she dies of movie disease
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basically which is because she needs to
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die she dies which is incredibly stupid
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Campbell's lawful movie from further for
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heroic Dame's the Dame that's to die so
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that the hero seems to leave a little
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more corrupted by it
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chapter 12 it's right there black and
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like an easy fix for this problem
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what if she had been slowly dying
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throughout the entire movie like what if
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we find out an early scene that she has
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a fatal disease she can be killed in the
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war that's going on with people with
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guns and lights if we set her up as like
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in the in the first scene is like she's
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got this terrible disease or something
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at least Anakin has legitimate reasons
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to do everything like she's actually
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dying that is like I had a dream about
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maybe her Diana can could accidentally
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stabbed her when she's hiding behind the
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curtain anything could have happened but
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that doesn't happen it's that's really
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frustrating but she does she does have
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the droid midwives deliver a baby girl
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and I want everybody to me watching it
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which is super creepy yeah
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Bail Organa Yoda and obi-wan are all
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standing outside a transpass a
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transparent window just like checking it
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she has the the mecca modesty skirt
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though you know what is with the
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delivery room with the the one-way glass
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it looks totally comfortable that's that
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I'm sure any woman would love to deliver
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while sitting on metal slab with a metal
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chain thing covering it's just you know
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move on galaxy far far away
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not look comfortable I don't even think
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you can get our legs far apart squeeze a
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baby out
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also how does nobody figure out that
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she's having twins before yesterday and
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today there will be technology sucks to
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keep returning to a singular baby and
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wood to show up they're not too
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surprised but it's like she has names
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for both of them ready to go yeah yeah
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that was if it's a boy it's gonna end of
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course they couldn't tell that either
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she wanted to be surprised to grow
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little belay oh it's both yeah oh I
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gotta die now but i gave my name's
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before I died
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now i gotta die fortune which
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just it is this is this is like the
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height of movie this is like I mean like
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babies being delivered in movies is not
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a great track record they're often very
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large and you know six months old and
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all of these things and they come come
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out in like a minute they're perfectly
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ok but Lucas has all of the cgi in the
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world at his disposal couldn't have done
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something that would have been it would
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not have been cleaned don't encourage
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him to make cg babies that have done
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children of men i think y'all all CGI
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the world can't fix the script though
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and that's the problem here is that we
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she needs to die and there's no good
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reason for her to die and she just guys
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such as they just didn't want him you
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kill her in so many ways and so cheesy
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disguise admirably she dies of being
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said she's got her babies but that's not
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good enough she said so she dies but
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fortunately Jimmy Smits and his wife
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will take the girl not am home and I
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brought you that beyond that going one
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way but they'll take the girl boy would
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be crazy if there had been an accidental
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switchy to be Smith's the I got to their
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I got you thank you
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so she gets to be so so let's get this
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straight Leia gets to go to Alderaan
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beautiful we get to see beautiful older
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on goodbye real estate and um and it
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gets to be a princess and be awesome on
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Alderaan whereas i will take the boy to
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tatooine where he will be in the sand
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and fixing two rounds no place for a
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woman budget did he call ahead because
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i'm not even sure they've got a space
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phone in their little tattoo yeah I feel
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bad for Owen and Beru because what if
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they want to have their own kids now is
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like that we were gonna have her own
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kids were kind of the right age when I
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guess we gotta take and it seems like
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they never do have their own kids from
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can tell it was like he just he shows up
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with the baby tucked into his robot is
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like a brew
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I got some for ya don't want to go into
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too much detail about why I'm bringing
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his baby but here no nothing to worry
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very little chance with this little tyke
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might someday college to be torched
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alive and you're gonna stay here I like
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that Jimmy Smith is totally like so we
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got two kids dibs on the girl I'll take
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yep will take also sending sending Luke
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to his family under his own name i read
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in Syria while back about like how
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obi-wan just totally uses Lucas bait for
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Darth Vader like that was gonna put him
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out here with his family
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we're leaving called Luke Skywalker
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just sit around wait for Darth Vader
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show up and kill this kid it's like
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hiding in plain sight it's it's the it's
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the the first off they tell him the
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Emperor tells him that he killed her
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ok that is actually cool i like that
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what that is one bit that I like it I
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like the Emperor lies to him and tells
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him that you killed him because I feel
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like that is a great captain be said but
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again he and I don't like because he's
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being duped again it's like well he
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knows that he didn't actually kill her
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she was alive when he left and he's like
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but i guess i accidentally killed her
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and couldn't tell because I of course
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you can tell you killed a YouTube didn't
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kill her she was he doesn't know that
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she's that she was alive when he left
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are you sure
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shokdor into unconsciousness I nobody
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has the farsi can tell when she's dead
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or now that woman you don't like your
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voice can tell anything in this movie
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john the force does not do that because
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we see obi-wan actually take her pulse
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at one but they also the four slots and
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lets the jedis put their hands on the
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heads of people who are injured and make
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them better all we want does it in a new
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hope it gets done a couple times here in
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this movie this all sorts of head
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padding to just doesn't it it's another
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example of him being duped and I think
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that's okay i think i think that's ok
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again in that different movie I think
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that's ok because it's sort of completes
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his transition like now there is nothing
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left for him you know and so we've got
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that story which comes from the Emperor
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but meanwhile obi-wan and Yoda have
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crafted this other story which is weird
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we're going to hide the boy in plain
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sight on Tatooine and i'll be one is
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going to be nearby but not trained him
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or do anything other than hang out but
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btdubs remember Liam Neeson well hold on
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hold on
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ok so so uh so any meanwhile there is
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another right so we've got her stashed
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away somewhere else but then before you
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go to go as he says he says clygon has
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figured out how to become a ghost
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you should talk to about it's totally
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cool yeah it's awesome even was that
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present well that's like are so that's
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how ob1 talk to Luke all along he
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learned it from the ghost of qui gonn
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they have three movies and they didn't
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show that anywhere it's like what we
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know in the original trilogy this all
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starts to go stalking from ben and if it
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had three movies to either establish
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that as a normal Jedi thing or make it a
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special thing on his way to the last 30
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seconds of the third movie they actually
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talk about that like one episode one
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i'm out i remember reading an interview
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where he's like oh yeah you see qui gonn
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dies but you still see his body
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we're gonna explain why he doesn't join
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the force like obi-wan does and like I
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remember waiting for that and they
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literally shoehorn it into the left's
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two minutes of the movie and don't even
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really explain it
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you know one of those things that did
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not need an explanation no no just just
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like that missing planet that the only
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went into the Jedi library to find the
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right out like okay I can you know how
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did why did they erase that well you
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know is a computer but anyway look at
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this point we don't have any other
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Young's to ask the answer
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no prob now so so qui gonn who we've
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never heard from Racine is apparently
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still talking to Yoda and has become a
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ghost clone or not it but not to his
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apprentice so i think we established he
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hates at the beginning the first
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yeah yeah so the late so they leave the
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droids in the care of the captain wiping
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threepio's mind while they have that
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Padme funeral where she's very creepily
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holding the thing a child Anakin gave
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her and we're supposed to feel like this
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is a romantic sign of loss that just
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made me think about the creepy age
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difference again that i always think
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that that close-up is
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Hey look we've made her look pregnant so
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that no one thinks she's here that is
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that is what it is yeah
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wait that doesn't make any sense and we
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see Jar Jar at the funeral and we're
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reminded that it's all jar jar's fault
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yes accurate the droid thing wipe only
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threepio's braid r2d2 like laughs at it
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yeah or it is like arguing you can't
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talk you just those bleeps and bloops
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that no one except for every protocol
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droid in the universe can understand
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exactly what you might be important I
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just like the idea that r2d2 spends the
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rest like the next 15-20 years griefing
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c-3po but remember that time we do you
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want to remember what you if Archie's
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you could roll his eyes they would be
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constantly rolling it's just like we do
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I feel like he says he who a lot in the
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next couple of years were captain
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Antilles two last things to do okay
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first off we need to we need to address
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not only does the Emperor say in your
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anger you killed her but we get to hear
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James Earl Jones asked about about Padme
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in the famous Darth Vader voice and then
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we get a dot and then we get the moment
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which is after he discovers the padma is
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dead Darth Vader badass villain of the
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universe
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says no it's not complete without the
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stumble out of his little his little
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prison table oh yeah breaks out all the
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wrinkles Frankenstein's monster
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stylishly Frankenstein's yeah I see
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here's the thing i thought it would be
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so much cooler if we saw it like a
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primitive version of his armor like not
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having him just on like I'm Darth Vader
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remember me but like like yours from
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your action figure remember that
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awesome in the mask and the stuff all
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ready to go unless they've got like some
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that's a standard mask and they're like
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eight guys who got breathing problems
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and nothing
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yeah that's just a sleep apnea mask is
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this is another place where I I I wish
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suck so bad because the shot of the mask
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sliding into place and the breathing
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starting up would have been really
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really great i grieve this film had been
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different than earned yeah what yeah i
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wasn't i think i wrote my notes that's
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the capper man like it's the point where
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it's like it's just this really happened
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this is actually how this all plays out
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this is actually cannon ah I drink the
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entire bottle of whiskey
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that's the end of the no drinking game
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is after you see the scene just drink
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until you pass out night I think the
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scene the scene as we end up with is the
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real capper to the movies the
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appropriate end but i I just I i
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disremember like exactly right in that
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was in that theater i can rewrite the
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movie as you go but this was almost like
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a painful thing to watch like that's not
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what happened he doesn't know it's like
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what if you really want your not later
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if you really want to set them up for
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episode 4 he pauses for a second and
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then says good
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oh that would be pro yeah see but no bad
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because then he started favor and send
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this is my for my opening statement this
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is not this does not Darth Vader the end
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in 20 years of of going around and
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kicking around because he got fooled
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into doing this and his wife died and
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now he's trapped in this suit I just
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don't feel like that d Glee the darth
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vader brings to being the enforcer of
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the Emperor's will across the galaxy and
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strangling people for displeasing him I
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just have a hard time drawing a line
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from this guy to that guy do
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this is an antique never grows up and it
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never becomes an adult he is always the
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little kid the little brother
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the kid who did I could he'd never
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becomes fully adult and the any just
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replaces one authority figure with
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another he never becomes Darth Vader he
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really is like that kid in that focus
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wagon super bowl ad that's what I really
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think we have yes he is he's dressed
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like guess he's dressed like darth vader
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but he's not third fader that's cute
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honey that's cute on you like you I like
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your darth vader costume night my kid
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had more gusto than this Vader it's
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really more like the kid who got crushed
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by the flat screen TV
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it can i mentioned the creepy targeting
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stand-in at the asbury you because this
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place because this was the other the
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other scene we've got is we've got the
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dossier around the ship and we got the
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guys and they're out in their death star
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outfits and we see the structure of the
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frame of the death star being built for
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20 years to build that thing but only a
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couple of minutes to blow it up
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uh-uh-uh and there's a weird there I
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thought it was a guy who's supposed to
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put you in the mind of Tarkin but they
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made up a guy to look like Peter Cushing
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they made a model is friday look like
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they're shutting his corpse maybe like a
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cgi model rubber mommy could have saved
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a lot of time and I was really curious
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about is my google this guy down like he
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looks nothing like him but there's all
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these pictures online of like the tart
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like an actual promo shot of him as
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target he's not identified as such in
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dialogue only in the credits appearance
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for what 10 seconds maybe look at all
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the time they spent making him up to
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look like a character just so we can
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have that link remember those movies you
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love ya and it's between that darth
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vader standing on the bridge of a Star
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Destroyer equivalent the candy for like
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you know the scene in there we have all
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these things that are like alright we're
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wrapping it up you get everything back
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and then the capper which is we're going
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to stand on Tatooine in the exact same
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spot that Luke will stand 20 years from
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no they're not going to stand on how to
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win this this is why was the capper a
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binary sunset was outdoors this looks
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for all the world like they're in front
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of a green screen but it states the
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transparent attempt to call back ends
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the best seen in the entire trilogy yet
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now that they're trying to do that but i
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think it's emblematic of like they took
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a scene that was like one of the most
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naturalistic scenes a new hope right
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where is actual someone in you know
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where was ten the actual binding outside
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on location and they said how can we
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rekindle that magic I know green screen
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no that's not how you do it basically
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they say f it up to the very last drop
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but you can see what they're trying to
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do here right this is your montage of
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memories from the beginning of Star Wars
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and we're gonna we're gonna grab it and
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I get ready totally see Luke on tatooine
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with binary sunset as the last shot a
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movie you know very early on there like
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that's the last shot of the movie we
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just have to get there it shouldn't be
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too hard right it'll be okay we get
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there right we did so well with the
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first two movies we got this one right
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close your eyes think of Star Wars so
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it's so ham-fisted is especially the
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thinking and I and I don't understand
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why the green screen like the head
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location shooting there didn't they say
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Fred they left and forgot to get that
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shot crap we got to put that one of the
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schedule allergies doing post and i
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don't i don't know if it's all green
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screen think some of it maybe location
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but there are definitely shots in that
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for all the world looks like they're in
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front of a green screen is that like
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there's no way Lucas at the tunisia
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again like my understanding was that
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they shot those scenes during the
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shooting of episode two
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we're usually they just didn't know
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those things were going to be in there
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and they dropped a man yeah but it
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doesn't it digitally ancestors fails it
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fails on so many levels it's a microcosm
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it's a science emblematic of the
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failings of this you know not just the
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plot feelings but this is emblematic of
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the aesthetic failings of the movie with
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all that the cg unnecessary cg and
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people in front of green screens and
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failing to evoke emotions by doing
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something in a way that that is not
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naturalistic yeah we think we can it we
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think we can improve upon what is
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natural by like carefully controlling
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every single element that goes into it
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to make a perfect thing right but
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whereas what was great about the
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original in some way where its flaws
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where its natural like the things that
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were limitations of the time that meant
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that they had to find workarounds that
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what that's what made that one succeed
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when it turns out when you can control
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the entire environment everything feels
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sterile and dumb
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well let's see if they could do it
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better if they could make it so i
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thought they were on location
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more power to him but they couldn't they
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could I didn't pull it off right it's
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like I don't mind them trying to say
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we're never going to get this perfect
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magic our sunset will make one up if you
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can convince me that they're really
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there i'll buy it but if you can't
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convince me don't do it just shoot them
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on location
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you just got you know you gotta do what
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you gotta do to anyway this is such a
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minor point in a movie that has so many
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major things wrong with it was just like
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one little step is like by the way we
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can screw up scenes instance in big ways
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and small and here's just one little
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sharp poke a stick before we leave
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never have I been less excited to hear
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the jaunty star wars end music and so
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the three
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yeah hey it's over and I kept thinking
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ugh just like a good why did I that's it
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for the last hour and twenty as being
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punched in the face yeah with no respite
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of any kind when you're praying for
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stupid c-3po puns
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you know I know you've been ruined that
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is dad's that's a bad place to be
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I felt I felt 30 but i did actually
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wonder where the terrible c-3po puns
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where Anthony Daniels i guess that i
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checked out after episode 27 by spent
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all the episodes free pretty much
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checked out and yes I get kind of rolls
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over me and just like wake up long
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enough to be angry about bad writing and
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stupidity but it's just like this and
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then they didn't do anything to make me
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like I remember watching us in the
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theater for the very first time in like
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I wasn't trying to be standoffish I
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wasn't being like I'm going to go in and
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I'm gonna hate this like I'm you know
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I'm paying to see the movie i'm willing
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to be up to let the movie take me but it
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never even never even made a little like
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tentative gesture towards my
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heartstrings and like didn't even come
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close it was just like every part of
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that is me my no hang-ups part of that
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is the first two movies maybe being
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unfair to it but just looking at the
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movie again without all those hang-ups I
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felt like it still didn't grab me that
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clearance the closest I got was maybe
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like the opera scene where you see some
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good performances and then as andy said
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we just spend the rest of the movie
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making your own movie in your head they
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would've been better than this
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yeah the worst thing for me is that it
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didn't even like episode 1 i'm i
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actually liked but I realized that I I
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admit this out right so much of that
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fondness is because of nostalgia with
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episode 3 it wasn't even value to me as
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a nostalgic piece it was this what this
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wasn't Star Wars this wasn't kept these
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were characters that I really like and I
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couldn't even really evaluate this as
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bad storytelling does this look like
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here that the ear the that the the line
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that this is the this
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is so wrong it's not even wrong it's so
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that's how not right this is I do
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does anybody want to place this among
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the sequel among the prequels it where
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does this one ranked what what's the
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what's the best and the worst i mean
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there is this common thought out there
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the this is the somehow the best of the
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of the prequels uh I know we've heard
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some somehow somebody's opinion here I
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I'll go first and I'll say you know what
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for all the terrible things about
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episode 1i think kind of that episode
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one is the best one only because in some
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ways it's not as offensive it is a dumb
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kids movie family moving but you know
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it's got the pie and the Padres goes on
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too long but the i can i can actually
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like recall what happens in episode 1
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it and it's got some things that are bad
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in the grand scheme of things having
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revisited all of them now I kind of
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think it's the least offensive of the
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it also has the benefit of being the one
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that you can completely separate from
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star wars in your mind
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yeah really you know I can separate all
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three of them but even more so like
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seven is the child the child Anakin
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doesn't even connect with the adult
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anacott so it's like this whole
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undertaking world that took place in a
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movie that happen to have lightsabers i
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can go back and go better than that the
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it's I think that episode one is my
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favorite of the three and I think its
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sexy again I actually enjoyed it partly
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because even if we divorce it completely
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from Star Wars i can name a bunch of
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scenes that I absolutely love like the
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opening scenes were if you we we see
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quite on and Anakin escapes from McCann
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and obi-wan for the first time and they
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are absolute badass Jedi which we have
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never suit with what we were used to the
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elderly lovely don't give into hatred
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now we want to think very carefully and
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it's like no they're badasses who will
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plunge a lightsaber through a three foot
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3 foot what a thick door a carved a hole
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in it to get at the people on the other
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side of that door the the battle between
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between our guys and and Darth Maul I'll
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against its kind of it's kind of silly
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to have these berries that drop-down
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really for no mechanical reason but
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you realize that wow this is like
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furious furious hand-to-hand battle that
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has to stop and you had see you see
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these two groups of people that like are
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like caged Tigers just like waiting for
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this barrier to drop so that they can
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start fighting again it had it had
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moments like that where i could say i
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really enjoyed those scenes even the art
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direction I i like the whatever they
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shot in Italy all those interiors and
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exterior of Naboo with that it's all
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about Italian architecture that it feels
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those were felt like real spaces and
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we're kind of interesting to look at in
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a way that in later movies it's all just
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digital you know imaginary digital
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worlds with people dropped into
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backdrops and and I don't want to say
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too much positive about episode 1 I
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don't think it's a good movie i didn't
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really like it i think i think it could
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have been edited much better but
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compared to the other two anyway what it
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what other people think we're just
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episode 3 ranked among the the prequels
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that's better than episode 2 that's
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first i'm only trouble placing with
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episode 2 because like I found episode
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3i found in both very forgettable
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but if you force me to watch either
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episode with two or three again I would
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probably and maybe just realized i saw
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three i would probably pick to be forced
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to watch it like they're don't like
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either one of them it's like would if
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you had to pick up some sleep episode 12
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sighs I can adjust Rank 2 and 3 against
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each other
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someone said you have to watch one of
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the prequels and it's like six months
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from now see didn't just watching one
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which one would you choose to watch two
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or three two because you can kiss kind
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of zone out guys
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I don't like sand haha i know but listen
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just had the same terrible line below
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loves there was a time that I would have
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said too because i really liked the the
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Camino stuff but when we watched it the
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community stuff doesn't look it doesn't
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look as good now as it did back there
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now it looks just kind of crowded I is
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packed with Steve was saying that like
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the second half of this movie is just
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just entertain greenery
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yeah it's not entertained I don't care
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about that locker room i love dark grim
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things i hope this is my wife isn't real
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and gritty in a good way this is andrea
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morning mars-like watch it is not
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entertaining because I don't get a grim
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things only work if you're like if
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you're caught up in it like oh
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this is terrible i could you like that
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type of thing but if you're not caught
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up with it is just not entertaining
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there's nothing there to entertain you
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it's a tough call but i suspect i would
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i would probably go with three as
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preferable because even though i don't
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enjoy watching and especially that last
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hour or so there's at least a changes up
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periodically where episode 2 is just
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video game sequence after videogame
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sequence after videogame sequence and
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here the baddies I little bit of change
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in tone a little bit change in pace
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I don't enjoy any of it but episode 2
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honestly it makes me avert my eyes it
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certainly is because i'm just so tired
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of seeing the cgi thrust at me
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constantly creepy and I can i was i
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think it was thinking episode to wonder
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what would ever want to see you again
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about episode 2 like why would I
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possibly pick that over three this
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Coliseum scene has them running away
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from monsters for ya but I'm trying to
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think of an end of an episode of tv
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wonder what do I seem to have that I
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want to see you again maybe the space
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battle line to get this thing about the
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movie and you get a ram chip
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yeah maybe the space battle I'd want to
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see ships flying around cuz i like the
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ships but it's like that anyway that all
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this is to say that that i would
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probably put episode 1 above the two
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because i can think of two things in
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episode one that i want to see again the
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lightsaber battle which no one speaks
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and it's a good life three pounds book
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well choreographed and I guess I like
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the podrace you know again a lot of
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dialogue and they race around sort of
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the rest of movies execrable and yeah
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thats i would probably say episode 1 is
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first then two and three are in a dead
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heat for second but I would never watch
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anything i think i think what I'd say is
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episode 2 has some better stuff in it
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than three but it also has some really
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nails really terrible stuff and well um
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I like i said i like the rain the rain
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planet seen a lot i was good i think the
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coliseum with the monsters part is ok
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then of course all the just show up and
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it's stupid but also that c-3po cracking
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jokes and little about oh my god that is
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so good but so this is what i'm saying
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is i think there's I think there's
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better and worse stuff into than 3
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whereas in three I look at a time just
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like me you know
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well tell us what what do I want to go
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back and watch an episode 3 and I can't
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even I can't pick out a single thing i
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agree with you on Episode one though
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it's not depressing and it's not
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entirely bored
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which puts it above both of the other
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films for me yeah unlike us if you are
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not required to opportunities that some
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sort of strange podcast torture
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experiment by an evil mastermind uh-huh
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then you don't have to watch these ever
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again and neither do i I never have the
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watch is ever getting in there this is
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what I was gonna say is good news
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everybody
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you never have to watch the prequels
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ever and again
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yeah that's my goal when the force
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awakens it is going to have one hell of
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a hangover is well what was the last 20
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years back
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jeez I don't remember anything after the
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equal he walks i scratched out after he
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walks that was in that blue milk
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the thing that I alluded to in the in
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the in the preamble to this
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yeah I have one really good thing to
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thank you so did 34 because when we when
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we were when we schedule this I had a
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dim memory that maybe I might have
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bought episode three on DVD like getting
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used DVD so or something me to about it
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i bought it used on like five years ago
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and it just SAT and exactly it's like
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it's at least as I i distinctly remember
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i might have bought but never watch it i
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just bought it because ok for five bucks
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I will have it and so I looked through
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like my DVD collection couldn't find it
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then look through that box that I have
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of dvds that never made it onto the
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shelf and then finally made it to well I
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that is I think there's like a box full
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of kind of dvds from stuff for my last
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move like you know like eight years ago
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or whenever for whatever what the the
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DMV your cleaning up or just things go
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into boxes finally 5k there it is
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follow their that must be here is like
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episode Star Wars like d.video is still
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in shrinkwrap just I thought what I
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found and I would not have found these
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because they would they were all the way
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in the garage
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unless i was searching for episode 3 was
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I've totally forgot that i'd bought on
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DVD during like they 13 days it was
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available for sale
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the actual uncut the actual theatrical
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releases of episode 4 5 6 on DVD paired
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with the restored additions and
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prohibitions but I had been like I
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that must have must been really busy
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when i bought these I had never even
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opened them and that and now i have on
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my media server copies of the theatrical
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releases of the Holy trilogy that I
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would not have had enough in searching
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for episode 3 you got the gout
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yeah georges georges original on also
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trilogy that's what that's called you
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that you found the Geo UT I I like holy
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trilogy I think it's more respectful
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bear more reverent and i would recommend
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that if you people always ask me what
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they should watch for the Star Wars
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movies that in there like what should i
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buy or whatever I said buy whatever you
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want to buy the blu rays or whatever so
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you feel like you have a morally
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fulfilled your obligation to give money
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to the people who made these movies and
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then go download army specialized
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edition yeah right now then and that's
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that's what I keep in my you know if I
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want to watch Star Wars that's what I
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watch and I have bought all of the
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plastic discs with these things on the
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many of times over
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so I feel my obligation to Lucasfilm
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whatever the owners are is more than
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fulfilled as I bodies movies again and
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again but i don't watch but Harvey's to
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specialized is the way to go
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they look the they're the best looking
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and it incredible technical job to put
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them all together based on all these
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different sources and color corrected
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and it is the closest you're gonna get
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to the original idea of what the trilogy
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is supposed to be at the highest quality
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and that's the problem with the gout
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ones they're not great quality right
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yeah yeah but the harmonies it's that
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they're taking blu-ray sources and HD TV
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broadcasts or Alive no meter from
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Princess laser discs are all these
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different sources and putting them
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together and actually in all those
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sources in the same shot matting things
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out and occasionally you'll see a light
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or you know you get the you have the
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same speed of the landspeeder going by
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and like parts of it are fuzzier than
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other parts but it is that's what I look
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like in the original an awful may look
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like a smeared Vaseline underneath yeah
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it was not get like a recent yeah they
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did but it's a that's the way to go
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don't you obsessive nerds on the
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internet I know it's amazing that's
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that's what the Internet's point it's
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probably your brain rebels against it
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and I do i also have the that I also
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have the fixed if you the special
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editions but every time I i I'm not even
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capable of judging it critically because
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every time something have
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and in episodes 4 5 & 6 that i do not
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remember happening for the 20 years in
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which I saw the classic edition the
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brain says wait that's wrong that's the
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at that didn't happen that way and so
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whatever you have to do to get the
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theatrical release is worth whatever you
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have to do to get it for me
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we're giving you carte blanche internet
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we forgive you
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yes do what you must do it I can think
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of no better way to end this opus this
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this adventure we've taken through all
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six existing Star Wars movies just in
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time for a seventh to arrive this
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december i don't know what we're gonna
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do about that but probably talk about it
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stay tuned for 18 consecutive hours of a
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telethon about our new sub bass Jason
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the force awakens sub-caste coming in
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there's absolutely no way this one is
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going to suck a chance to make sure this
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time for sure this time for sure they
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should call this one can't possibly suck
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so thank you to my fellow adventurers
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and Ian Coates been pleasure
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oh god that was fun Steve let's thanks
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for taking this journey through the
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prequels especially with us at an end
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this podcast is and not short enough it
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was as serenity Caldwell a pleasure as
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always thank you for for talking about
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all these star wars movies with me be
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that's a good trick did more in thank
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you very much
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the pain is slowly subsiding finally
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after these many years John siracusa
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thank you i was thinking just to be safe
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there should be no couches in episode 7
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no couches that would make me feel more
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comfortable and anyway for the
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incomparable I've been Jason Snelling to
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exile I must go failed i have with you
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next time
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