The Talk Show

54: Green iPhone 5C Hidden In A Beard


00:00:00   I was a crazy day it's we are recording on Wednesday all day is it [TS]

00:00:05   September 18th so its iOS 7 day as well as the day after all the the embargo [TS]

00:00:15   lifted on iPhone 5s in five see reviews and joining me today I think for the [TS]

00:00:20   first time is the first time you've been on the talk show first time Jim [TS]

00:00:25   Dalrymple I do enjoy doing good you know you pointed out we were both at the [TS]

00:00:31   Apple shindig last weekend and saw each other like MIT event like while they [TS]

00:00:38   were talking so we just waved and literally did not say a word to each [TS]

00:00:42   other I think for the first time ever just resists it was so crowded it was [TS]

00:00:48   like if you didn't if you weren't already standing next to somebody you [TS]

00:00:50   had no chance to to just wander over and say hi to the people you know it's funny [TS]

00:00:55   you mentioned on the phone man O'Malley can I were sick migrated across the [TS]

00:01:00   aisle from each other we didn't see each other you know it cuz I blamed in [TS]

00:01:04   camouflage yeah it was a good event though I I know you don't like them [TS]

00:01:17   the campus as much but I do I like those ones I i don't have any kind of phobia [TS]

00:01:26   ciety disorder or anything like that but just in general I just don't like crowds [TS]

00:01:32   I don't like being elbowed elbow with people you know and and tell you know I [TS]

00:01:40   just giving examples so I don't I'm not a big concert goer I do go to concerts [TS]

00:01:43   but I have to really like the band to go to a concert because I just don't like [TS]

00:01:48   being that crowd and that's what that when they're on Apple's campus the event [TS]

00:01:55   is it's just packed I mean there's there's a wait they they invite far [TS]

00:02:00   fewer people but even so it's it's just isn't meant for that that's true [TS]

00:02:06   you know i i dont go to concerts so much either but you wait until your son gets [TS]

00:02:10   older than you'll be going he might have to invite down taken to the metal shoes [TS]

00:02:22   and you know I honestly if there is any kind of trouble at a concert Amy be [TS]

00:02:27   better anyway [TS]

00:02:28   well I wouldn't ask away I saw I am I I'm interested you know I think we're [TS]

00:02:39   years away obviously in having broken ground but I think that when the new [TS]

00:02:43   campus the space ship arrives you know we already know from the plans that have [TS]

00:02:47   come out that part of the spaceship is compared to the Town Hall Ave now [TS]

00:02:52   massive amphitheater where I would expect they're going to have all of [TS]

00:02:58   their future Apple events and I you know that that should be different because I [TS]

00:03:02   think it's going to be built with the kind of crowds they draw in mind while [TS]

00:03:07   and it makes a lot of sense i mean you know Apple pulled out of all the trade [TS]

00:03:12   shows years ago because they wanted to do the room types of events and you know [TS]

00:03:16   the first event I think that they really held was was under the iPod or the [TS]

00:03:22   MacBook you know the original white MacBook when they had all those schools [TS]

00:03:28   while the one big school [TS]

00:03:30   but others came on later but i i think that they really saw the chance to to [TS]

00:03:38   control the environment [TS]

00:03:39   you know and they don't need to go to moscow Amin Lakhani West when you go to [TS]

00:03:45   an event there it holds thousands of people you know and sometimes I think [TS]

00:03:50   that they they want more control over what they're putting out and and how [TS]

00:03:55   that information is going to be around the internet I like the event at the [TS]

00:04:00   Yerba Buena Center I think that's a really nice facility I think it's a nice [TS]

00:04:04   stage I mean it was great last year when the Foo Fighters are those sounded [TS]

00:04:07   fantastic and I kind of like seeing Apple out of the isolated nature of [TS]

00:04:18   their own campus like I vaguely worry you and i talked about this on the phone [TS]

00:04:22   but you know Moses it here but I vaguely worried that come to the future [TS]

00:04:29   spaceship campus that we're literally not going to see Apple anywhere outside [TS]

00:04:35   their own the enclave of their own campus except WWDC [TS]

00:04:40   and I don't think that's healthy I'm not sure I'm not sure why and who knows you [TS]

00:04:46   know this thing is going to be huge who knows what we could see for WC right I [TS]

00:04:50   thought of that too it doesn't seem practical to me that they would build [TS]

00:04:54   into their campus facilities for a 45 thousand-person campus are arming [TS]

00:04:59   conference but I don't know who knows that things gonna be huge [TS]

00:05:02   yeah I mean maybe the at that point they they can expand it you know and you know [TS]

00:05:09   part of the reason that they can explain it right now is because they just don't [TS]

00:05:14   have the resources and you need to know you can only have so many engineers but [TS]

00:05:17   by that time but that size campus mean downing in Cupertino last week you know [TS]

00:05:24   I want to see some friends that you know didn't even work at Apple driving [TS]

00:05:27   through Cupertino every building down there as you know there's so spread out [TS]

00:05:33   among some of the buildings are miles away [TS]

00:05:35   yeah that's just [TS]

00:05:36   and they are you know it's true and and I know a lot of people I'm guessing most [TS]

00:05:44   people do listen to the show I've never step foot on Apple's campus because it's [TS]

00:05:48   you know it's out of the way but I know a lot of people who are fans of the [TS]

00:05:51   company if they're in the area they'll make a pilgrimage you know they'll stop [TS]

00:05:55   in there is a company store that people can go to one of its I think the only [TS]

00:05:59   place where you can actually buy Apple T-shirts you know famously they don't [TS]

00:06:04   they don't sell Apple t-shirts and Apple retail stores and so people go into that [TS]

00:06:10   but one thing you're struck by and it's you know knowing how big apple has [TS]

00:06:15   gotten you know that you know biggest by market cap company in the world or [TS]

00:06:19   second exon order that the actual official one infinite loop campus is [TS]

00:06:24   relatively small by the by their current standard and it's like you said you [TS]

00:06:28   think like wow can given out how can they really still be in these buildings [TS]

00:06:32   and you know you're exactly right there spread all over Cupertino right yeah and [TS]

00:06:37   it's it's no exaggeration when you look at how far and wide [TS]

00:06:43   those buildings are i mean and some of them what's funny is that they came from [TS]

00:06:48   companies like HP and and other large companies that they gave up those [TS]

00:06:54   buildings and Apple snaps I'm hoping you know they'd put under the people in them [TS]

00:07:00   and the land for the new campus was from HP to yeah yeah yeah I think truth be [TS]

00:07:06   told you know some of this growth came so quickly but in the end it's hard I [TS]

00:07:11   mean it's hard to build a massive spaceships I mean it really is it's it's [TS]

00:07:18   like a skyscraper that you know you lay down on the ground and form a donut out [TS]

00:07:23   of i mean but it's you know it's it's as big or bigger than than like a massive [TS]

00:07:28   manhattan's quite skyscraper in terms of you know Force Base yeah you know and [TS]

00:07:34   that doesn't happen overnight [TS]

00:07:35   obviously but it's overdue i mean the company is bursting at the seams on [TS]

00:07:39   campus [TS]

00:07:40   well and it's gonna be good for for them I mean I've seen people walking out of [TS]

00:07:47   of one infinite loop to go to a meeting they open their courage people drive [TS]

00:07:51   across town now just just for a meeting you know having everybody in in one [TS]

00:07:56   central place is going to be good for for the whole company because then [TS]

00:08:00   you'll have you know these the meetings that they have the design meetings and [TS]

00:08:04   mean you know people and they're not going to be put out by doing this she [TS]

00:08:09   just kind of stopped by I just worry though that in terms of public relations [TS]

00:08:13   that it's too it's gonna be to isolating for them I mean people often make the [TS]

00:08:16   joke that Apple is sort of like willy wonka you know that their secretive and [TS]

00:08:22   they did you know everyone said I'll come out with these amazing things but [TS]

00:08:25   there's you know there's that aspect of Willy Wonka to where he you know he [TS]

00:08:29   secluded himself in the factory and closed the gates and got real weird you [TS]

00:08:34   know it's true you know and Apple employees are they do go to conferences [TS]

00:08:39   you know they go to CES they go to all sorts of conferences they just don't go [TS]

00:08:44   and speak publicly they're just there and you kinda have to look at their name [TS]

00:08:48   badge to find out there there I just worry about that long term it's that [TS]

00:08:54   they're too isolated as a company I don't know it's it's going to be an [TS]

00:09:01   interesting thing to see once once they start moving everything in there if the [TS]

00:09:11   if they start closing off I don't know if they if they would pose like that i [TS]

00:09:16   mean the only thing that they're doing is is pulling their employees altogether [TS]

00:09:21   you know when all the resources that they have been putting those altogether [TS]

00:09:26   yeah I would say it's two different things I think day-to-day operations [TS]

00:09:29   it's going to be a huge win no doubt about it and I think you know almost [TS]

00:09:32   like that the the well I don't think it's a coincidence I don't think it's I [TS]

00:09:36   think it's the opposite I think it's by design that like Pixar's campus where [TS]

00:09:40   there they purposefully designed it with this atrium where everybody would have [TS]

00:09:44   to [TS]

00:09:45   central atrium where no matter what your job as you kind of have to run into [TS]

00:09:48   other people that it would be good if the people who were working on the rate [TS]

00:09:53   racer software would just by coincidence run into the story team and they'd meet [TS]

00:09:58   and maybe become friends and you know that good ideas can can come out of [TS]

00:10:02   accidental meetings are going to be a lot more of that sort of stuff I'm [TS]

00:10:08   saying though from a public relations standpoint for events that its and [TS]

00:10:12   conferences and stuff it's it's worrisome to me that maybe we'll never [TS]

00:10:16   see them outside of their own campus yeah that could very well happen [TS]

00:10:21   considering the scope of what they're building and just let me know what we [TS]

00:10:25   know about how much control they have over so yeah well I mean they have [TS]

00:10:30   control over stuff now and you know things are still leak yeah you know so [TS]

00:10:36   Tim said last year that they were going to double up on security secrecy seekers [TS]

00:10:44   but yet here they are ya you know I've got a lot of questions about that in [TS]

00:10:50   this weekend that so that's as good a place to start is annie is for the most [TS]

00:10:56   part I would say the only thing that maybe he was a surprise was that that [TS]

00:11:01   the that the 5s went to 64 bit yeah I don't know what to think about that but [TS]

00:11:10   the bottom line though is that the the stuff that leet I think all of it just [TS]

00:11:17   came from the Asia supply chain and I don't know that there's anything Apple [TS]

00:11:24   can do about that that's it's so tough you know despite the fact that a lot of [TS]

00:11:32   the stuff leak from the Asian supply chain most of the animals who stole [TS]

00:11:37   wrong the analyst where it's you know that's right it's the people who [TS]

00:11:42   literally payoff factory employees to sneak out components right right I mean [TS]

00:11:49   like there's no like analysis to it it's it's just black market bribery to get [TS]

00:11:55   you know here's here's the gold frame [TS]

00:11:57   from the iPhone 5s you know where it is and how do you stop that I mean it's [TS]

00:12:03   almost impossible [TS]

00:12:04   yeah I don't know software wise almost nothing leaked I mean even something as [TS]

00:12:09   stupid as innocuous as the fact that it in only in the GIM none of the betas [TS]

00:12:14   they added on new ringtones and alert tones that didn't leak they had that you [TS]

00:12:20   know i mean that was the only software surprise but you know didn't make you [TS]

00:12:25   know and I think I even mentioned last week and sunday was on the show [TS]

00:12:28   think about this Iowa 7 itself did not leak until they showed it at WWDC now [TS]

00:12:34   there were rumors that it was going flat that it was a radical redesign it was [TS]

00:12:37   going to be polarizing but the actual you know what it actually looked like [TS]

00:12:41   did not leak until they showed it on stage at WWDC [TS]

00:12:47   the so this stuff that happens on campus in Cupertino they're definitely that I [TS]

00:12:51   think they have successfully double down on secrecy the stuff that goes through [TS]

00:12:55   the agent supply chain just leaks like a sieve is that why they're moving some of [TS]

00:13:00   the manufacturing did the USS or two different places you know they're [TS]

00:13:03   talking about Brazil and they talk about the us- I wouldn't be surprised if it's [TS]

00:13:09   part of it you know you always have to read between the lines with these with [TS]

00:13:14   take him in and fill on stage i mean they're you know they're so polish so [TS]

00:13:18   rehearse but you know and again this just could be my imagination I'm totally [TS]

00:13:23   just you know armchair psyche psyche psychologist here but like when when Tim [TS]

00:13:30   Cook was up there after Craig Federici did the run-through of what's new and I [TS]

00:13:35   was seven and the next thing was to talk about new iPhones [TS]

00:13:38   and Tim said something along the lines of some you know new iPhone some of you [TS]

00:13:42   maybe it could have been expecting us I couldn't help but think though that he [TS]

00:13:46   hated that he hated hated it that we already knew sort of what the 5s look [TS]

00:13:53   like hated that we'd already you can I don't know I just felt like I could see [TS]

00:13:57   it and that the gold it was not a surprise [TS]

00:14:00   yeah really well that disappointed them I i think you must disappoint them [TS]

00:14:05   because you know they work for you know a couple years on these products and [TS]

00:14:13   then they're leaked you know a few months before they come out and Apple [TS]

00:14:18   loves the surprise they loved that doctor of their their key notes that [TS]

00:14:24   they can say oh yeah just one more thing but if everybody knows what the one more [TS]

00:14:28   thing is there and you know it's done [TS]

00:14:31   Steve hated that and I i have to think that the team does too but you know it [TS]

00:14:39   wasn't really much of a surprise we we did get confirmation on nocolors and [TS]

00:14:45   pricing and and things like that but it's gonna be a letdown to get up in the [TS]

00:14:50   morning and see your new products that will be announced in a month's time [TS]

00:14:54   splashed all over the internet I think so and I can't help but think that [TS]

00:15:00   there's maybe maybe that's it's simple enough not to over think it about like [TS]

00:15:06   why did this 64 bit stay secret and the other stuff didn't I think it's probably [TS]

00:15:11   because the a seven is if not the most expensive component it's one of you know [TS]

00:15:18   maybe maybe the display something like that and so would be a lot harder to [TS]

00:15:25   smuggle that out and [TS]

00:15:27   a lay person you know like someone who simply assembles them they had no idea [TS]

00:15:31   what they're looking at you can't look at the a seven and tell that it's you [TS]

00:15:34   know a 64 bit Raigad you know it just says a seven designed by Apple in [TS]

00:15:39   California words you know something like that they don't know what it is and [TS]

00:15:43   they're not I think it's a harder thing to smuggle out if they did I would how [TS]

00:15:46   would somebody else even tell what it is well and you mentioned it earlier that [TS]

00:15:51   the secrecy on campus is getting a lot better and that's where they would be [TS]

00:15:58   developing Iowa seven so you know 64 bit versions of them remember when when [TS]

00:16:04   Steve announced the Intel version of Mac OS 10 and said there's a building on [TS]

00:16:09   campus where this has been developed for the last year alongside the other [TS]

00:16:12   version and nobody knew that that is incredible and if you've ever been on [TS]

00:16:18   campus [TS]

00:16:20   you know there are there are people walking around with trolleys with a [TS]

00:16:25   black cloth straight over them you know so there is a lot of secrecy that that [TS]

00:16:33   goes on there even from their own employees and the employees understand [TS]

00:16:38   that you know I think these days a lot of those people that work there really [TS]

00:16:44   wanna work for Apple and more often than not if you talk to people that work [TS]

00:16:51   there they believed what they're doing actually means something they they're [TS]

00:16:55   making changes that are innovating on things and they want to continue to work [TS]

00:16:59   there [TS]

00:17:01   yeah because if you don't work there were also you gonna work that has the [TS]

00:17:04   same priorities yeah you know and I think that you know the same logic [TS]

00:17:09   applies to Google I think in general you know obviously there are exceptions and [TS]

00:17:14   I'm sure that there are some people working at Google who used to work at [TS]

00:17:17   Apple and vice versa but on the whole though they attract different types of [TS]

00:17:22   Engineers different types of designers people with you know who see different [TS]

00:17:28   things as the most important thing they could be working on well in for the good [TS]

00:17:32   ones for these [TS]

00:17:33   great engineers they do have a choice you know Apple goes looking for them and [TS]

00:17:40   Google goes looking for them so they they can pretty much work where they [TS]

00:17:45   won't you know it's not a matter of a boy you better take this job at Apple [TS]

00:17:48   because you know if nothing else all of these companies try it and and bring [TS]

00:17:55   over them [TS]

00:17:55   the greatest so you know talk to I i talked to a developer down their own he [TS]

00:18:02   owns a company news looking for developers he can't find good developers [TS]

00:18:08   in the San Jose in the valley basically because they're they're all taken up and [TS]

00:18:14   you know apple pays them well and everybody gives them you know great [TS]

00:18:17   benefits Apple Google so he ended up going to Austin should still but he left [TS]

00:18:25   there it's really hard you know it is definitely a hard thing to and I know [TS]

00:18:31   you know people leave Apple but the big thing is I know a lot of people who've [TS]

00:18:35   like left you know either friends or at least people who I would call you know [TS]

00:18:40   so my friends acquaintances you know they last maybe two years ago and I know [TS]

00:18:48   some of them who are already back door not because they had to but you know and [TS]

00:18:53   and it's almost like thats how you do a sabbatical at Apple Inc if you're tired [TS]

00:18:57   and wanna try something new you leave and you you know go and work somewhere [TS]

00:19:01   else for a year or two and then if you want and it's still there you go back to [TS]

00:19:05   Apple and the door is you know usually open if you left you know if you left on [TS]

00:19:09   good terms and did good work [TS]

00:19:11   yeah yeah and there's a lot of people that have done that I sure did that I [TS]

00:19:16   don't think so did he sure was was there and he went to a comedian then came back [TS]

00:19:22   I didn't know he was at Apple before Macromedia I only knew that he was at [TS]

00:19:25   Macromedia but it doesn't surprise me I guess I knew that he was a Macromedia [TS]

00:19:30   that I mean there's a long time ago [TS]

00:19:34   hard to imagine I was surprised she has got to be the executives been there he [TS]

00:19:40   must be cuz I know that he had he was you know [TS]

00:19:44   senior vice president for product marketing before Jobs returned he was [TS]

00:19:48   like it may be the only guy who survived the return of jobs I think he could be [TS]

00:19:57   very hard to imagine a modern apple with them for sure it really is you know but [TS]

00:20:04   you're right and and just going back one step your right though that the host the [TS]

00:20:07   whole idea that on day one I was 7 64 bit total secret [TS]

00:20:12   well it's got to be because it was produced at Apple but the most people [TS]

00:20:20   care about 64 bit well I went into it in my review and you know 64 bit in and of [TS]

00:20:30   itself no not really worth worrying about [TS]

00:20:32   it's a developer problem in you know just like with with Mac OS 10 I don't [TS]

00:20:36   think that anybody really had to worry about it with Mac OS 10 win 64 bit you [TS]

00:20:41   know unlike every other platform I'm aware of like Windows you know you [TS]

00:20:45   didn't have to worry about what version of a nap you had you know at all just [TS]

00:20:49   worked and I think it'll be like that for consumers with that the big [TS]

00:20:54   difference is the move from the old arm V seven architecture to arm the eighth [TS]

00:21:01   which has a whole bunch of real performance improvements and it makes [TS]

00:21:06   sense if you're going to go to RVA to go 64 bit at the same time so in a way they [TS]

00:21:12   should care because it really what enabled [TS]

00:21:15   the five asked to be literally like no exaggeration twice as fast as the five [TS]

00:21:22   from a year ago and twice as fast in one generation of phones is that significant [TS]

00:21:33   yeah it really like the old days of the pH PC industry you know where it where [TS]

00:21:37   you can you know you by a computer and a year later for the same price you can [TS]

00:21:41   buy one that was twice as fast and you feel like man that's you know I can't [TS]

00:21:45   believe I should have waited a year by my computer it really is like that with [TS]

00:21:49   mobile [TS]

00:21:50   it certainly isn't like that with PCs anymore but you know I know a new [TS]

00:21:56   MacBook area by the day is not twice as far as its better the battery life [TS]

00:22:00   they've certainly made significant improvements your ear but you know you [TS]

00:22:04   don't see a doubling of clock speed or not i guess i clock speed but CPU [TS]

00:22:08   performance year-over-year it's really amazing [TS]

00:22:11   well and I think people realize now that the PC isn't really what they need [TS]

00:22:19   anymore you know I mean for all intents and purposes the iPhone is a PC and and [TS]

00:22:26   you know you and then you have the iPad I work I still work on on a MacBook Pro [TS]

00:22:32   but you know I can easily work on an iPad I can work on my phone if i if I [TS]

00:22:38   really need to I don't like to but I can I do a significant amount of work on my [TS]

00:22:45   phone one thing I do a lot of them my phone is cue up material that I want to [TS]

00:22:51   link to later in the day so I'll just start my day with the phone in my hand [TS]

00:22:56   and start reading and if I see something I should link to that from during fire [TS]

00:23:01   by you know unless I'm gonna be on the phone all day I won't check it all out [TS]

00:23:05   on my thumbs right there I'll just send it to pin board and then later when I'm [TS]

00:23:08   at my desk I've already got six or seven things that I flagged to post yeah it's [TS]

00:23:15   tremendously useful to me [TS]

00:23:16   well i i do I started using reading list I was using Instapaper but when I [TS]

00:23:23   started trying a reading list because it syncs now yeah I between all the devices [TS]

00:23:28   I I tried that of to see how that would work and it's pretty good yeah and it's [TS]

00:23:34   gotten better to yeah it's not it's not perfect by any stretch but you know we [TS]

00:23:40   usually what I do somebody asked me you know how long my reading list was not as [TS]

00:23:45   soon as I i link to something I do it right you know so my my list isn't that [TS]

00:23:49   long but it's it's a pretty efficient way to do things and now and now you [TS]

00:23:56   when I wanna put my computer down I usually pick up my iPad and you know [TS]

00:24:01   that's that's just casual reading you know going through you know the latest [TS]

00:24:07   things that people send whatever and you know that's that's a more casual type of [TS]

00:24:12   browsing for me to sit down with the the iPad do that but then you know saving [TS]

00:24:18   links and things like that but if I have to pull something probably reach over [TS]

00:24:24   and grab my macbook again [TS]

00:24:26   yeah I would say it's just as a rough a rough schedule the iPhone is my morning [TS]

00:24:33   device my Mac at my desk is my afternoon to evening device and then my iPad is my [TS]

00:24:40   evening case last night was a perfect example so I was late publishing my the [TS]

00:24:47   embargo was 9 p.m. Pacific on the iPhone reviews and I was I was late as usual I [TS]

00:24:57   think I published right after midnight eastern time so about three hours late [TS]

00:25:01   that's actually good for you and that's pretty tired I busy day linking before I [TS]

00:25:16   really settled down to write I had a lot of notes from the week I mean that when [TS]

00:25:20   I write this stuff I i've note side note scribbled in investor I have notes [TS]

00:25:27   scribbled in paper notebooks I have the beginnings in BBEdit of sort of like a [TS]

00:25:32   text file with the article but I just started like let us do and then I just [TS]

00:25:37   start writing and i ended up at about six thousand words are so I was tired [TS]

00:25:45   you know i mean that's a busy day six thousand words I mean I must say I wrote [TS]

00:25:48   all six thousand words but I kind of put them all together and you know it's [TS]

00:25:52   midnight and I all the other reviews around and I you know even when I'm late [TS]

00:25:56   I don't stop and read you know I want to get my review out without being biased [TS]

00:26:00   by what other people but then are so many reviews it came out on the embargo [TS]

00:26:04   I'd last thing in the world I would want to do is still be at my desk and read [TS]

00:26:09   them on the computer reading them on the iPad with a beer in my hand on the couch [TS]

00:26:14   it was so much better than than the old days before they really was I mean I [TS]

00:26:20   know you know I'm laying back I'm on the couch in the living room not at my desk [TS]

00:26:24   I mean I've had you know by the time when you write six thousand words in the [TS]

00:26:27   date last you a do is to be a desk I agree could not be better and you know [TS]

00:26:32   what I would not want to read like you can't read and on mushrooms peas you can [TS]

00:26:40   read that carried out on an iPhone you can read that were the case right I love [TS]

00:26:49   his because it made my short I loved my link to his today and I said I don't [TS]

00:26:56   think there's anybody more qualified to do this type of review I mean he just he [TS]

00:27:03   basically terrorist the thing apart and you know talks about things then the [TS]

00:27:09   very attack-minded people care about and you need that you really do you know [TS]

00:27:18   what I was nervous about to take a break in a minute for the first month when I [TS]

00:27:20   was nervous because I went a little bit more benchmark II and mine than I [TS]

00:27:26   usually do because I really thought that the 64 bit transition was so interesting [TS]

00:27:31   and there'd been so much controversy about this going to 64 bit with only one [TS]

00:27:36   gig of ram is a total gimmick blah blah blah so I really want a lot more [TS]

00:27:39   technical than I have in a long time and I was so worried because I knew when I [TS]

00:27:45   read Anansi if he said like kind of a map great performance wise that I was [TS]

00:27:52   toast so I and I usually do he breaks his up over multiple pages I actually [TS]

00:27:59   skipped and went to the CPU performance page first just like double check and [TS]

00:28:05   and everything he had kind of job with mine you know that wow this is about [TS]

00:28:09   twice as fast your ear and it's faster than all the leading Android phones yea [TS]

00:28:14   well when i when i look at something like that I i cant to take the you know [TS]

00:28:20   the end user approaching my reviews and this time I I went for the pain points [TS]

00:28:27   you know and for me that's and password you know and unlocking the phone every [TS]

00:28:33   single time and I i did have concerns about the the fingerprint sensor because [TS]

00:28:38   as I laid over in the review and I was worried it was gonna say ok I'm on law [TS]

00:28:43   awakened oh you wanna do a fingerprint ok he'll read and you know it just be [TS]

00:28:49   this painful experience that I can actually type it in faster than waiting [TS]

00:28:55   for the fingerprint and that would be useless as as a feature that you would [TS]

00:29:00   want to continue to use them in it has to be fast and it really is you you just [TS]

00:29:06   press the home button to a two to wake the phone up and just keep just register [TS]

00:29:12   your thumb on it and I use my time instead of a finger cuz that's how I [TS]

00:29:16   hold the phone [TS]

00:29:17   I just rest my thumb on it and it immediately just opened up let's pick it [TS]

00:29:22   up from there me do the first sponsor break and we'll pick it right up from [TS]

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00:30:14   in a min apart I spoke with her web stock she's an amazing speaker absolute [TS]

00:30:19   she's like a fireball up there really i mean she is great that's where she [TS]

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00:30:53   it enough even give I don't know if they still do it they give out great swag [TS]

00:30:57   last time I was there they give out custom field note notebooks with the [TS]

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00:31:10   so my my description of the fingerprint sensor is exactly like you say it's it's [TS]

00:31:15   so much faster than I think it even has to be the right like my thought going in [TS]

00:31:19   was exactly the same as yours that it can't be like roughly as long as it [TS]

00:31:26   takes to enter a passcode it has to be way faster than basket because it's just [TS]

00:31:32   the way that that any sort of disruption has to be ten times better than the [TS]

00:31:40   thing that came before it you know and and and just want to go too far off and [TS]

00:31:44   attention but I think that's exactly the problem that Windows Phone faces Windows [TS]

00:31:48   Phone is by all accounts really good mobile operating system but it was late [TS]

00:31:53   and at best it's you know roughly on par with Android and iOS you know it's the [TS]

00:31:58   same thing it's not ten times better so it just has trouble getting traction [TS]

00:32:03   whereas the original iPhone was ten times better than what came before it [TS]

00:32:07   and that's what does so if you're going to get rid of passcodes the thing that [TS]

00:32:11   you're going to get rid of him with has to be like 10 times better and that's [TS]

00:32:15   what such ideas it is it is so much faster than I really thought that they [TS]

00:32:21   were gonna be able to achieve I had like my hopes I hope it's like hope it's like [TS]

00:32:25   that and they did it by a long shot [TS]

00:32:29   you know there there are these features that can vote in iowa soror Oosten [TS]

00:32:36   thing called analyst him when they expose a yeah you know you could you can [TS]

00:32:41   do these windows and you can have all the stuff going on I never used you know [TS]

00:32:47   it's one of those things that when it first comes only look at it and say well [TS]

00:32:51   that's cool but if it doesn't actually remove a problem or a pain point for you [TS]

00:32:57   then you're not going to end up using it the the hopes that I had similar to [TS]

00:33:04   yours for the touch heidi was they they were pretty high expectations and had [TS]

00:33:10   exceeded them for me and it so much and you know we talked about this on the [TS]

00:33:13   phone so much so that I went to my my five Si and quick hit on the left my [TS]

00:33:19   phone there on the thing waiting for it to unlock and [TS]

00:33:22   and I thought oh my god it's broken i've seen that in at least three different [TS]

00:33:26   reviews of the iPhone 5s everybody knows everybody that shows you the feature [TS]

00:33:34   works and it and it does remove a problem and it absolutely did for me so [TS]

00:33:39   that's something that that in itself is a reason to buy the 50 S III think Tim [TS]

00:33:45   Cook even kind of touched on this i think is wrap up at the end of the event [TS]

00:33:50   I know he touched on this number when but I think it was at the very end is [TS]

00:33:54   wrapping it up when he was talking about you know the the new stuff and there's [TS]

00:34:00   not that much new really I mean there's touch aidid there's the improved camera [TS]

00:34:04   with burst mode and the slow mo and there's the performance gains but that [TS]

00:34:09   they really focus not just on adding new stuff but new stuff that everybody will [TS]

00:34:15   find useful and reading between the lines are to me it's putting a finger at [TS]

00:34:21   no better example than that the Samsung Galaxy s4 [TS]

00:34:26   the one that was unveiled at Radio City Music Hall with the song and dance show [TS]

00:34:30   and all this stuff and and and these features they had all these new features [TS]

00:34:34   like watching a video and then you move your eyes away it'll pause automatically [TS]

00:34:39   and something where you can somehow moved in manipulate items on the screen [TS]

00:34:47   without actually touching the glass and then you read all the reviews and [TS]

00:34:50   everybody says these things are gimmicks and they don't even work that well I [TS]

00:34:53   don't like it [TS]

00:34:54   yeah and and now here we are six seven months later nobody even talks about [TS]

00:34:58   this features nobody says boy all the other Android phones in iPhone need to [TS]

00:35:03   get this look away from video and have it paused automatically [TS]

00:35:08   because you know what that's nobody actually has a problem causing the video [TS]

00:35:11   right screen tap passe well and where you gonna watch video on your phone you [TS]

00:35:18   know sometime maybe you're in an airport so you know you lift your eyes up and [TS]

00:35:22   look around and expected to keep going up which I would and then a pause and [TS]

00:35:26   you wouldn't want that you know it's it's like you said though it's it is [TS]

00:35:31   hard to find actual problems to solve and and to solve them in a way that it [TS]

00:35:37   works for everybody and their I I think you just nailed something that Apple [TS]

00:35:44   does that nobody else does I think that they actually look for the problems to [TS]

00:35:49   solve instead of coming up and saying I've got this fancy new feature and [TS]

00:35:53   granite Apple probably does this to you know let's make a backup that looks like [TS]

00:35:59   it's in space and on your Mac and you know they they highlight that stuff as [TS]

00:36:05   well but it doesn't seem to me that a lot of companies actually look for [TS]

00:36:09   something to solve when apple looks at you know the the passcode ok we need [TS]

00:36:16   people are we want people to be secure and we want them to lock their phones [TS]

00:36:20   this is a real problem and you know your your phone beeps you pick it up you type [TS]

00:36:26   in your passcode and then you look at it block and put it back down again and [TS]

00:36:31   then it beeps again and you gotta pick up a couple so that's an actual problem [TS]

00:36:35   that people have with with security and they solve that I would like you know [TS]

00:36:42   people talk about why I'm so mean to Samsung well don't just take you know [TS]

00:36:48   ten new features and and throw them in there if they don't actually do anything [TS]

00:36:55   right you're wasting people's time you really are and then and I can see why [TS]

00:36:59   they do it I do shouldn't but I can see why because they're not actually helping [TS]

00:37:02   customers because of the features and helpful but but they're doing it because [TS]

00:37:07   so many people in [TS]

00:37:10   technology press and the business press have this insatiable desire for endless [TS]

00:37:18   revolution [TS]

00:37:20   void the word innovation because I have talked about it that I think innovation [TS]

00:37:24   means something different than what what the people who say Apple can have it [TS]

00:37:29   anymore what they say what they think innovation means his revolution they [TS]

00:37:32   want and knew that the 2007 iPhone every every 12 months that's not gonna happen [TS]

00:37:38   real innovation is incremental and it's like it's always about going a layer [TS]

00:37:42   deeper often often going about every once in a while it is about revolution [TS]

00:37:47   but for the most part it's incremental and and for some reason in technology [TS]

00:37:52   that's that's where people see this may be because technology is still [TS]

00:37:56   relatively new field but I think about like the automobile industry and nobody [TS]

00:38:00   demand stuff like that nobody like when BMW comes out with the new 3 series is [TS]

00:38:06   is demanding that you know I can't believe that it still has tires on the [TS]

00:38:11   road and it isn't we don't have hover cars yet you know I mean George Lucas [TS]

00:38:15   showed us in a land speeder in 1977 why don't why i cant BMW make one you know [TS]

00:38:22   what they do they work on things like making the doors nicer the trend right [TS]

00:38:26   it's like you know it's just funny it's funny how like if you get into somebody [TS]

00:38:31   who's driving like a later model premium car like a 97 BMW still nice car but you [TS]

00:38:38   get into it and you know what it's like roughly on par with like you know like a [TS]

00:38:42   mid-range like a Honda Civic today you know what would have happened in in 2007 [TS]

00:38:48   if Apple brought out the first iPhone and it was exactly the 5s with the Iowa [TS]

00:38:54   seven people probably wouldn't lynch jobs for being a witch [TS]

00:38:58   right you know what do you need this airdrop thing for what is that kind of [TS]

00:39:04   witchcraft that you're talking about their Steve and that's that's why it's [TS]

00:39:09   incremental because as as the technology unfold we realize that there are things [TS]

00:39:15   that we need to do [TS]

00:39:16   and there are things that we wanted to there there are different types of media [TS]

00:39:21   in files and information that we want to share okay well here's the thing called [TS]

00:39:27   airdrop it took seven years but we didn't know that we wanted that in 2007 [TS]

00:39:32   we didn't even know we wanted the iPhone in 2007 ya xoxo another one word to [TS]

00:39:38   simple problem and its hey you've got one of these devices I've got one of [TS]

00:39:43   these devices and we can see each other right here in the room together should I [TS]

00:39:46   be able to just send you a link or a picture and what do we do before that [TS]

00:39:52   well text it to me or email it to me or you know no just airdrop do it it's done [TS]

00:39:59   yeah I did it we are used it last week last week after the going out to [TS]

00:40:03   California for the Apple shindig instead of flying straight home I went to Denver [TS]

00:40:08   where I Q branch college where that that's where we ended up recording the [TS]

00:40:13   talk show but Davis Kissin they whiskers lives there and and Brent Simmons was in [TS]

00:40:17   town for the 360 back and say no to a convenient way for the three of us to [TS]

00:40:24   meet face-to-face in and do some work but we used a drop in it was great you [TS]

00:40:29   know I have a picture in the new show you this year and airdrops there it is [TS]

00:40:33   you know it was super can be I i often don't run into stuff like that one at [TS]

00:40:38   home because I like a little like a hermit up here meet about spending two [TS]

00:40:46   days working like a regular person with colleagues in the same room it it's [TS]

00:40:51   fantastic [TS]

00:40:53   could not be easier really great future and it just solves a problem that's been [TS]

00:40:58   staring us in the face the whole time and that's it in the the greatest [TS]

00:41:04   features I i think are the ones that solve a problem that you don't realize [TS]

00:41:10   there's a solution to [TS]

00:41:12   you know there is there's another thing that's a pain point while there is a [TS]

00:41:16   solution text that file to me that's fine but there is a better solution and [TS]

00:41:21   you know we didn't even know that there was a solution needed that we we didn't [TS]

00:41:24   already have but there it is [TS]

00:41:27   you know those are the ones that you'll end up using the end and just to just to [TS]

00:41:33   clarify looking at those shoulders bio and Apple it says since rejoining Apple [TS]

00:41:39   in 1997 so you're right he was there before I I thought I thought I better [TS]

00:41:44   clarify just in case of his room you know you probably had the scoop at max [TS]

00:41:48   central 95 or whenever it was when when when he left to go to Macromedia that's [TS]

00:41:55   probably what you remember you're probably the one who broke the news man [TS]

00:41:58   was long time ago so let me just take a second break here to me to the second [TS]

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00:42:53   you can do a live stream you can do voiceover or not you can just have the [TS]

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00:44:19   it's very easy very easy to use to create I did a quick quick screen [TS]

00:44:27   recording you can export rate to you know YouTube and stuff like that or just [TS]

00:44:31   use QuickTime export the file which is what I did and pumice stone skies [TS]

00:44:37   gregory call David great great iPhone apps to anyway [TS]

00:44:41   global a great thing checking out [TS]

00:44:45   so I think that there's a pretty clear consensus that the 5s is great upgrade [TS]

00:44:56   five see is is great fun you know clearly its spec wise it's the same as [TS]

00:45:02   the the five if you have an iPhone 5 [TS]

00:45:04   you're not going to upgrade to the five see you know you're just except for the [TS]

00:45:08   color line of people will do this I don't think anybody who already has a 52 [TS]

00:45:14   means somebody might say nobody but you know it's hard to recommend the file yes [TS]

00:45:19   it is the if you already have a five is the 5s a worthy upgrade yeah I think so [TS]

00:45:25   you know if you're willing to pay that the price that it you know everybody [TS]

00:45:31   already has a 52 year ago if you if you're willing to pay the price I think [TS]

00:45:36   it's worth it i mean i think is probably worth it for the camera [TS]

00:45:39   yeah but I'm a dummy i've i've bought my own new iPhone every single year and I [TS]

00:45:45   have never regretted it though so maybe I'm not that I don't like money well [TS]

00:45:49   spent to me but it's it totally feels like a solid upgrade to me now [TS]

00:45:54   the cameras one of the last things that I looked at it I am I see walking around [TS]

00:45:59   even at the event last week and you've got the nice DSLR you know you've got [TS]

00:46:04   nice camera I don't because I totally sucking photography I'm just terrible [TS]

00:46:11   and if if my iPhone doesn't take a good good pitcher then I just don't have good [TS]

00:46:17   pictures so I need any the iPhone camera to be good I do like 22 film videos and [TS]

00:46:25   I filmed some videos for the review of the slow mo feature and and put them in [TS]

00:46:31   their of my dogs playing frisbee and the videos were always you know they're [TS]

00:46:37   always very cool because one of my mind Border Collies Herald he just had loves [TS]

00:46:41   to jump as high as he can throw the frisbee [TS]

00:46:44   and so it was great I want you know you throw the frisbee and he jumps like five [TS]

00:46:49   feet in the air [TS]

00:46:50   catches this thing and I slow mode that section of it it was brilliant I loved [TS]

00:46:55   it [TS]

00:46:55   yeah it's a really clever you know and I it is an intersection of hardware and [TS]

00:47:01   software I mean obviously the hardware the camera itself hardware has to be [TS]

00:47:06   capable of shooting a hundred and twenty frames per second which not a lot of [TS]

00:47:10   very few cellphone size cameras can but it's more than that though it's the [TS]

00:47:16   software where it's so easy to pick the points where you want it in slow mo easy [TS]

00:47:25   enough to make the whole clip slovo easy enough to say you know forget about the [TS]

00:47:28   slow mo I don't want any of its loan I just want the video at regular speed I [TS]

00:47:32   forget the same whatever you want it is so easy to to specify yeah he's standing [TS]

00:47:38   points you know it seems so obvious once you've seen in you you know I'm sure you [TS]

00:47:44   know by next year when it lots of phones have this that you know all sorts of [TS]

00:47:48   Android phones are going to have the exact same interface but that's sort of [TS]

00:47:52   interface that seems so obvious once you're seeing that it's not obvious you [TS]

00:47:56   know in no its not I mean thinking about going in and saying OK slow mo video do [TS]

00:48:03   a export standard is a pic the pirate automatically or you know what happens [TS]

00:48:08   here and the thing is I I did three separate videos and I picked the the N&O [TS]

00:48:16   points and then you export the video and Sharon that's you know I said I emailed [TS]

00:48:23   it to myself but then you can go back in and picked new window points you know [TS]

00:48:28   the video is still there the the ability to do slow mo is still there the ability [TS]

00:48:33   to change it up you know so you can do whatever you want as long as you have [TS]

00:48:36   the video on your iPhone you know and and then re-exported and mail it to [TS]

00:48:42   yourself again yes so the way it works behind the scenes when you shoot a slow [TS]

00:48:46   mo clip it shoots the whole thing at $125 per second so it's four times the [TS]

00:48:51   number of frames that it regular 30 frames per second videos [TS]

00:48:54   but then you said these in and out points and they're just saved as [TS]

00:48:57   meditate on the file and then when you export it it'll export version that does [TS]

00:49:02   30 frames per second at the real speed and just goes you know it couldn't be [TS]

00:49:08   better at all I think it's a lot like the way the filters work on the still [TS]

00:49:11   pictures where it doesn't really save them it saves the filter as metadata and [TS]

00:49:16   it only really does the application of it at full resolution when you export as [TS]

00:49:23   something else to notables on the third video that I posted you can actually [TS]

00:49:27   hear the audio being slow down as well and the dog was really kind of close to [TS]

00:49:34   me when he when he jumped and caught the the frisbee you can hear his teeth [TS]

00:49:40   grasp onto the frisbee in slow mode I got it's great it's great I i I loved it [TS]

00:49:51   one of the things that struck me especially with these new camera [TS]

00:49:56   features on the 5s [TS]

00:49:58   the burst mode and the slow mo is it is and you know and I think that the last [TS]

00:50:05   year or I guess it was I wasn't last year was that the introduction of Iowa [TS]

00:50:09   seven but that was back at WBC when they added the built-in Instagram style [TS]

00:50:13   filters is how clearly Apple is designing this for the idea that your [TS]

00:50:20   photos are never really gonna leave your iPhone you might sink them to iPhoto on [TS]

00:50:24   a Mac or something you might or some art Lightroom or Aperture something you [TS]

00:50:28   could you can if you want but you're no longer are expected to write your your [TS]

00:50:33   phone is the one-stop place for the entire photo experience [TS]

00:50:38   cause I think back like I used to shoot film I used to you know I got into [TS]

00:50:42   photography in the late nineties and shot you know film into my first you [TS]

00:50:46   know Canon SLR shot on film and and the first couple years after my son was born [TS]

00:50:51   all the pictures I shot on film and what do you do with film are you taking get [TS]

00:50:55   developed and you get prints and then take the Princeton and you know throw [TS]

00:50:59   out anything that turned out bad and take the good ones and put them in a [TS]

00:51:02   photo album and there you go that's what you do what did you do with digital [TS]

00:51:07   photos right that was a big question when when we first went to digital and [TS]

00:51:11   before I photo existed what we do is we we hook up the digital camera to your [TS]

00:51:16   computer and you dump all the files into a folder in the Finder and have all [TS]

00:51:21   these pictures and you'd like open them up in something and and look at them and [TS]

00:51:26   maybe throw out but then you just you just wound up and up with a thousand [TS]

00:51:30   photos and not written all have like these names like IMG underscore 568 died [TS]

00:51:38   jpg right in all caps of course right now and there was a serious question and [TS]

00:51:46   then when they when Apple first came out with iPhoto that was how Steve Jobs [TS]

00:51:51   Pittston as I looked at that's nonsense here will help you organize your but I [TS]

00:51:56   think you know you know and and I photos a great app and it certainly made that [TS]

00:52:01   better but it wasn't good enough and I don't feel like I feel like the true [TS]

00:52:06   solution of what do we do it digital photos is is the iPhone it's keeping [TS]

00:52:15   them on the device and then finding one's really want to share and sharing [TS]

00:52:19   them you know to Instagram or two Flickr or to email or a text message or or [TS]

00:52:25   whatever right there right there is no sync process there is no move it to a [TS]

00:52:30   real computer and then do something hit the iPhone is the real computer and you [TS]

00:52:35   can get rid of the red eye right there and you can adjust the color balance you [TS]

00:52:39   know put some kind of filter on to give it a warmer look or or a black-and-white [TS]

00:52:44   look right there do you think that's for everybody though I do I think it's way [TS]

00:52:48   more for everybody [TS]

00:52:50   and Dan's thinking by USC be cable connecting it to something even like [TS]

00:52:56   iPhoto and then doing those things because for the most part I think you [TS]

00:53:02   want to do something like posted to Flickr or send it to a friend or a [TS]

00:53:07   family member or something right after you took the photo that's true right I [TS]

00:53:12   feel like you know you go on vacation and it's so much more fun to take a [TS]

00:53:17   picture of you in front of some kind of landmark and then send it right after [TS]

00:53:21   you took the picture then to do at eight days later when you get on that part is [TS]

00:53:26   true what about the people then you know like many she may post on Facebook [TS]

00:53:32   profile picture something but then she likes to get home in organize your [TS]

00:53:36   pictures and you know vacation this is where we went to look at them because [TS]

00:53:39   it's a nice big screen make make a book what you do you know your know if that's [TS]

00:53:44   what you like to do its your no worse for the wear right now it's no skin off [TS]

00:53:49   your back you can still do that in this is like a new convenience added on top [TS]

00:53:52   but the thing that really also made me think about today was David Pogue's [TS]

00:53:55   review of Iowa 7 I think mentioned that when you set a filter in iOS you take a [TS]

00:54:02   picture in in you use one of Apple's built-in filters and then you sync your [TS]

00:54:08   phone to your computer and sucking in iPhoto or whatever you don't get that [TS]

00:54:12   filter you just get the photo you shot the filter is just like metadata that on [TS]

00:54:17   the iPhone and it only really gets applied when you do it from the iPhone [TS]

00:54:20   it makes sense to me and that doesn't surprise me but it did surprise pope so [TS]

00:54:27   maybe you know I saw the the link that you posted on that yesterday maybe that [TS]

00:54:35   is the way that they're heading you know they're just easing into it I don't [TS]

00:54:39   freak people and you know and the big one for me and I wrote about my review [TS]

00:54:45   but the burst mode is just so I opening you know and like you said I have a [TS]

00:54:50   really nice Canon 5d I have some really nice lenses for it I'm not a [TS]

00:54:54   professional photographer are not even a prosumer [TS]

00:54:57   maybe like avid amateur but I do like shooting in you know call it burst mode [TS]

00:55:04   colleague continuous mode especially you know shooting kids you know but just [TS]

00:55:08   hold the button down and shoot as fast as the camera will go for a second or [TS]

00:55:12   two and your it just increases the odds that on one of those once you get your [TS]

00:55:19   subjects were in focus their eyes are open and the light looks good on him but [TS]

00:55:24   then what do you do with the rest if you just shot 12 photos and then it's like [TS]

00:55:27   delete delete delete this the one that was good or not the burst mode software [TS]

00:55:35   interface on the iPhone is again in hindsight of course this is how but not [TS]

00:55:43   have never seen a camera that work like that before you know where you go open [TS]

00:55:46   up the burst when you're ready and you just click a button says favorites and [TS]

00:55:51   then it shows you all of the photos in the burst in a timeline and it [TS]

00:55:55   automatically makes I can guess as to which one is the best using like the [TS]

00:56:00   facial recognition and stuff I haven't used them in a week isn't long enough to [TS]

00:56:05   really test how good their guesses so I just didn't comment on it but you know [TS]

00:56:09   it might do pretty well seems like the facial recognition for focus has always [TS]

00:56:12   worked pretty well on the iPhone you pick one you pick to you could pick none [TS]

00:56:18   but you pick however if anyone knows that you pick get saved as their own [TS]

00:56:23   items in the photo role and then you can do it Hoeber stack in one action it is [TS]

00:56:28   it is so great interest and it's so much quicker than like the old way like with [TS]

00:56:36   my Canon which is a $2000 camera I think maybe I get 2500 camera [TS]

00:56:41   if I shoot a burst of 20 photos it's easier for me to make my selects a pic [TS]

00:56:50   the one or two keepers and throw out the other 18 once I think to Lightroom my [TS]

00:56:56   computer and do it on my computer it's a total pain in the ass to do it on the [TS]

00:57:00   camera just died as I just don't even bother bother trying because it's like [TS]

00:57:04   the league confirmed the league and forget it you know what I mean I'm [TS]

00:57:08   whereas the iPhone now the iPhone 5 ass has now made it where it's easier to do [TS]

00:57:15   your pics keep your selects and get rid of the other ones it's way easier on the [TS]

00:57:22   phone then it would be to do it in iPhoto or Aperture library yeah like [TS]

00:57:26   they've totally inverted the model of where it's easier you know where where [TS]

00:57:31   your first pass triage of your photos is easier done couldn't be happier with it [TS]

00:57:37   and that's just what you want and again another pain point and so you know in [TS]

00:57:42   terms of people who are upgrading and have to pay the full price because there [TS]

00:57:46   are still on contractors have a iPhone 5 to me a good point and shoot camera is [TS]

00:57:51   still worth you know the 23 $400 you know I that to me factors into the price [TS]

00:57:58   of upgrading to the 5s is that it's you know it is a great point and shoot [TS]

00:58:03   camera and that's what people like me need i mean you know you can tell me [TS]

00:58:09   that it has you know an F 2.5 I I don't know what that means you just speaking [TS]

00:58:17   gibberish to me as it should be I i just if I can take the camera and you know [TS]

00:58:25   when many can I are going on vacation or something and we look at what we have to [TS]

00:58:30   pack do we need a camera no I'm done gonna use the iPhone you can bring [TS]

00:58:35   camera if you want to use the iPhone and that's always use so it's important to [TS]

00:58:39   me that it focuses properly and you know using the the burst mode is going to be [TS]

00:58:47   great for me because I take such a picture that using the burst mode and [TS]

00:58:52   then to go in and how [TS]

00:58:53   you know recommend oh here's here's a good one [TS]

00:58:57   you know this one has the right lighting and you know it's not blurred and it's [TS]

00:59:02   all OK iPhone 5 I'll take your advice and I'll keep that one the rest of them [TS]

00:59:10   delete the most surprising statistic i've seen in awhile as I thought it [TS]

00:59:14   would be a big number and it was way better than I thought was a week or two [TS]

00:59:19   ago when I was writing about Nintendo and and how you know I think that their [TS]

00:59:23   handheld market is is serious danger due to the post-pc but Nintendo aside I as [TS]

00:59:33   further example of devices being disrupted I wanted to look up what's [TS]

00:59:36   going on with the point and shoot camera industry and and it was I think it was [TS]

00:59:40   42% that Wall Street Journal reported a few weeks ago that point and shoot [TS]

00:59:46   camera sales were down 42 percent in just 12 months which is almost almost [TS]

00:59:56   phenomenal bottoming out of the market right and i think that it's one of those [TS]

01:00:02   things that aside [TS]

01:00:03   well the damage was done between 2012 and 2013 outta love allowed no way I [TS]

01:00:09   think that when you see a trend line like that I think you're going to see it [TS]

01:00:12   happening you know next year's gonna be like another 40 50% that there's just [TS]

01:00:20   less and less yes the optics the actual like physics of light going through [TS]

01:00:26   lands and hitting a center are way better on a point and shoot camera that [TS]

01:00:31   has you know a big dedicated lands way bigger compared to the phone but you [TS]

01:00:36   can't be the software and you can't beat the conductivity and the apps and the [TS]

01:00:42   social sharing that you get on the phone you know the camera that with you is the [TS]

01:00:45   best camera and isn't that the way that that a lot of this stuff is it's making [TS]

01:00:51   the camera or whatever it is good enough it's there it's with you you trusted [TS]

01:00:58   you're willing to use it [TS]

01:01:00   yeah that's that's exactly what it is for me [TS]

01:01:05   its exact same way that we're we're PC laptop sales have dropped off with [TS]

01:01:10   tablets it's not because tablets are faster than Windows and Mac laptops that [TS]

01:01:15   they're more powerful more multitasking bar that the screen is as big or that [TS]

01:01:20   you can type as fast it's a it's that it's good enough and that it's so much [TS]

01:01:26   easier and nicer right that's how disruption works you know you think [TS]

01:01:31   you're safe because he respects and in the meantime the the disruptor is is the [TS]

01:01:37   bottom and and the same thing happened i mean you talk about you know this [TS]

01:01:43   statistic with with cameras look at printers when's the last time you [TS]

01:01:48   printed anything and it's not that disrupted and replaced with something [TS]

01:01:52   else just became absolutely I would buy a printer that can only print airline I [TS]

01:02:02   i mean we we still have a printer and it's on the network because my kids are [TS]

01:02:09   both in the university and they need to pass in papers and you know why they [TS]

01:02:15   don't just have them email the papers and I don't know this day in age but [TS]

01:02:19   they have to print it off my son is in fourth grade and has allowed to email us [TS]

01:02:23   homer in there you go to university in Canada so there's there's universities [TS]

01:02:31   are slower to move they they still take dogs words to say I would want to print [TS]

01:02:37   maybe because I would want to make sure the fun turned out alright I don't trust [TS]

01:02:40   him to have the pontiff but that's me [TS]

01:02:43   let me take the last sponsor break and then Iran do after the sponsor break I [TS]

01:02:47   asked before we got on the air I asked people on Twitter I told them I said hey [TS]

01:02:51   downpours gonna be on the show what questions do you have for us about the [TS]

01:02:56   the new iPhones and Iowa seven so I got a whole bunch of Twitter responses and [TS]

01:03:00   try to go through I will answer these questions and some of them are funny [TS]

01:03:04   you should look at your twitter feed ok our last month her third sponsor what a [TS]

01:03:11   great friend of the show where space and you guys I was gross basis there the [TS]

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01:03:41   support I've told you about this last week they have they have 70 employees [TS]

01:03:45   just another customer care team all them in New York they're they're 24 7 365 [TS]

01:03:53   days a year doesn't matter when you're working on your Squarespace site maybe [TS]

01:03:56   it's something you're doing on the side not something you doing for your day [TS]

01:03:58   jobs do when you get home after you put your kids to bed you need help at eleven [TS]

01:04:02   o'clock at night because you're stuck on something they're there to help you it's [TS]

01:04:06   amazing I can't believe I just can't believe that their twenty-four hours [TS]

01:04:09   seven days a week when you're actually setting up how easy is it everything is [TS]

01:04:15   drag-and-drop use drag-and-drop to manage the layout you manage use [TS]

01:04:19   drag-and-drop to change your themes you can use drag-and-drop to decide what [TS]

01:04:25   types of content you've gotten your site Twitter feed in their you want to set up [TS]

01:04:29   a story you do it all by drag and drop in its design focus this is the thing [TS]

01:04:35   that's why I think they go after shows like ours for sponsors because they know [TS]

01:04:40   that our audience is design focus people who are interested in Apple Squarespace [TS]

01:04:46   really cares about Design I've said it before but again there templates are so [TS]

01:04:51   clean so professional and again ideas into a previous plans are responsive [TS]

01:04:58   their their templates are set up to look great on mobile devices from phones to [TS]

01:05:02   tablets to your giant 27 inch iMac [TS]

01:05:07   and last but not least commerce adding an e-commerce to a website is gonna be [TS]

01:05:12   traditionally in all of web design the biggest pain in the ass in oral [TS]

01:05:16   Squarespace makes it just as easy as they make everything else so go to [TS]

01:05:21   Squarespace dot com trying out for free [TS]

01:05:25   plans start at just eight bucks a month which is unbelievable and if you use the [TS]

01:05:29   code talk show 9 you'll save even more you'll save an extra 10% my thanks to [TS]

01:05:34   space I have Squarespace thing that I go over and play on all the time don't [TS]

01:05:41   actually you know post all up and go over and play because of a makeup dates [TS]

01:05:45   all the time as well yeah they they do a lot of a lot of good stuff I just [TS]

01:05:52   question are now are no signs no I don't think there's only so many questions [TS]

01:05:56   here this worked out so well that I don't even have any good why is iowa [TS]

01:06:01   seven so much better on the iPhone and the iPad I like it on the iPad [TS]

01:06:08   you know there seems to be some mixed reaction that I kind of expected last [TS]

01:06:13   week that they were gonna only released this week for iPhone and release it for [TS]

01:06:18   the iPad next month when I think everybody expects there to be another [TS]

01:06:22   Apple event to do it just seems to me like I S seven is about a month behind [TS]

01:06:29   on iPad it wasn't ready at WWDC the first beta you know is always two or [TS]

01:06:34   three weeks behind it still feels two or three weeks behind me that's not to say [TS]

01:06:37   it unusable because I've been using I was seven on my iPhone iPhone since July [TS]

01:06:43   and it's been fine I've had it you know find summer using iOS 7 is my main OS [TS]

01:06:48   agreed and I have been using it on my my iPad sensible those at the same time and [TS]

01:06:54   I i don't have any problems with it yeah but I do have heard from other people [TS]

01:06:59   have seen some people on Twitter who are seeing some real performance bottlenecks [TS]

01:07:02   David Bernard friend of the show [TS]

01:07:06   guy behind all the app cubby apps was tweeting and took video of he was [TS]

01:07:10   changing the wallpaper on his iPad Mini after updating it to the Iowa 7 p.m. and [TS]

01:07:16   it it are you shooting a vine you know the vine only gives you six seconds [TS]

01:07:21   divine wasn't long enough to show how long it took for the wallpaper changed [TS]

01:07:25   take place so I mean obviously there's you know but I i try to myself I change [TS]

01:07:30   the wallpaper didn't I didn't see that so it's not like well everybody's iPad [TS]

01:07:34   Mini takes seven or eight seconds to change the wallpaper I i mean there's [TS]

01:07:38   obviously something wrong on his I don't know I just feel like there is a point I [TS]

01:07:44   do feel like it has been true that iOS iPad iOS 7 has been a few weeks behind [TS]

01:07:48   but I don't know I it'll be interesting to see you what happens today and [TS]

01:07:54   tomorrow after people upgrade you know whether there's an outcry from iPad [TS]

01:07:58   users in particular vs iPhone users but I'm with you my me personally with with [TS]

01:08:03   my iPad Mini running the Iowa 7 p.m. I i like it better than I liked it running [TS]

01:08:08   iOS 6 yeah there's a good question is Jim jealous that Apple gave you a pink [TS]

01:08:16   five see know what color did you get a good green here's a question from a guy [TS]

01:08:26   named Craig Hockenberry [TS]

01:08:29   that sounds like a weird name does a green iPhone get lost in a beard like [TS]

01:08:34   snot I can't answer I have neither green eyes beard rau but luckily jim is here [TS]

01:08:44   with my I have to admit that I I did have a green iPhone but on the the first [TS]

01:08:52   night a collage seen it since [TS]

01:08:56   just interrupt the questions you know what my favorite little feature of iOS 7 [TS]

01:09:04   is it the fact that there is no longer a limit attacks now I you know used to be [TS]

01:09:14   eight and if you had aid and opened another link like say I give you just R [TS]

01:09:20   in Safari and I saw that there was a little corner then I knew they don't [TS]

01:09:24   open a new tab to a close one but what would happen if they'd be in mail click [TS]

01:09:28   a link and it would go to Safari and it would like erased it would overwrite [TS]

01:09:32   like the oldest tabloid had open but then I'd be like what was that maybe [TS]

01:09:35   that was something important now it just keeps opening an opening an opening it [TS]

01:09:40   doesn't magically keep them all in RAM you know the way that sometimes in all [TS]

01:09:45   tabs you have open in Safari you have to have to reload it from the network [TS]

01:09:53   before it'll actually show the content it doesn't magically keep them all in [TS]

01:09:56   RAM because you know that you know actually only still 1 gigabyte of RAM [TS]

01:10:01   but remembers the URL and it now remembers a screenshot of what it looked [TS]

01:10:06   like so the tabs that have been erased from memory when you're paging through [TS]

01:10:11   your tabs it still looks like the tab so you can identify the usually yeah I have [TS]

01:10:16   I have found this to be such a great preacher and it's one of those things I [TS]

01:10:21   always knew it was an annoyance that the ninth tab open safari would overwrite [TS]

01:10:26   the first [TS]

01:10:27   but now that I can keep you know I can have 12 13 14 open its what a great [TS]

01:10:33   feature and I really like the interface for flipping through them too I think [TS]

01:10:36   it's really great and and when you when you tap on the one that you want a [TS]

01:10:43   conflict zone from the bottom [TS]

01:10:45   you know that there's a lot of these things like like that and like [TS]

01:10:50   multitasking that I really like in a kind of shows that even though Apple [TS]

01:10:56   moved away from from the morphic design a lot they still do care about the [TS]

01:11:00   details [TS]

01:11:01   definitely I don't so you know that's a good question for you had concerns when [TS]

01:11:06   when when the rumors were first coming out about the move away from school [TS]

01:11:10   morphism you read a really good piece on on on the loop about how a you know [TS]

01:11:16   you're a little worried about this if it's true you don't want to prejudge it [TS]

01:11:19   you're gonna wait and see what they show you but you like you like the attention [TS]

01:11:23   to detail i do what do you think about Iowa seven in that regard they still [TS]

01:11:31   that's I guess that's the thing there's there are so many details that they [TS]

01:11:35   looked at I really do like some of the disc in Norfolk elements that Apple and [TS]

01:11:42   in its own way you know I the shredder in a spot you know stuff but it was cool [TS]

01:11:48   then there's there's no way around it but they've replace that with I think [TS]

01:11:55   more dynamics you know I know the people are are against the the icons flying in [TS]

01:12:02   from behind or in front of the screen and I kinda like it I love it you know [TS]

01:12:07   it it gives the the phone [TS]

01:12:09   feeling of interaction with a you really having to do anything you press the [TS]

01:12:15   button and watch it go and I i wouldn't want to get rid of that right I think [TS]

01:12:20   one of the best ways to put it is maybe it's it's a DivX changed one style of [TS]

01:12:26   flourishes for a different style of flourishes it's not though that they've [TS]

01:12:31   gone plane [TS]

01:12:33   right and and again I like Windows Phone if I had to use of some some phone other [TS]

01:12:39   than an iPhone I would definitely no doubt in my mind choose probably a Nokia [TS]

01:12:45   Windows Phone over any Android phone I really do like it better but I think [TS]

01:12:51   Windows Phones flat look if you well if you want to use the F word and we all [TS]

01:12:56   know how much we all of the effort I think they're look is plain and truly [TS]

01:13:04   flat in a way that Apple's is not because a boy you know I can't emphasize [TS]

01:13:08   enough to use Iowa 70 I think by the time the show airs a lot of you know [TS]

01:13:13   there's a lot of people are gonna be like one or two days into iowa 7 it [TS]

01:13:18   isn't flat it's it's the buttons are flat maybe but the actual interaction [TS]

01:13:25   from the home screen to the app to Notification Center is very three [TS]

01:13:32   dimensional its layered and I think it's and I think that the transitions the [TS]

01:13:36   animations between those layers are just great and i think i think it really [TS]

01:13:40   shows that they still sweat the details just like they used to [TS]

01:13:43   when they were making the felt in Game Center really look as much like felt as [TS]

01:13:48   they could it's just a different a different way [TS]

01:13:50   yeah that's that is a great way to put it so you know do I miss the felt no I i [TS]

01:13:58   dont it's it's that kind of interactivity of things leg I I like the [TS]

01:14:06   familiarity of if I'm gonna do shred something I like to see a shredder I am [TS]

01:14:11   I P stupid but I like to see a shredder I like the shredder too but you know [TS]

01:14:17   they they focus on on different things now and you know what if you if you have [TS]

01:14:21   the [TS]

01:14:22   the five hours and I'm looking at it right now and if you tilt the screen [TS]

01:14:28   you know the background will move and they have that takes power in the phone [TS]

01:14:35   in order to get that done so you know i'm i'm happier than when I thought I [TS]

01:14:39   would write good enough I here's a good question totally serious this one from [TS]

01:14:45   Justin Hicks to the two of you believe Apple has much bigger plans for the [TS]

01:14:50   fingerprint scanning technology that's a tough one because you know right now [TS]

01:14:59   Apple has to be wary of all the info security experts out there in the fact [TS]

01:15:05   that it's very safe but I would think that the the fingerprint would be a [TS]

01:15:13   great thing to do i mean you can purchase with it and so i i think yes I [TS]

01:15:19   think they definitely bigger plans now I think I like a lot of stuff without Paul [TS]

01:15:23   don't don't get too caught up in like the next saved one two three four months [TS]

01:15:30   take a bigger view maybe maybe a lot of it won't come out for a year until I O [TS]

01:15:34   Si but I definitely think that they have bigger plans for it so one thing that [TS]

01:15:39   was missing it was announced at WWDC in it was in all the seeds over summer of [TS]

01:15:44   Iowa 7 was iCloud key chain which I thought was working pretty well for me [TS]

01:15:50   is not in Iowa seven point zero or the just released a few hours ago seven [TS]

01:15:55   point zero point one and they didn't mention it last week I heard and I saw a [TS]

01:16:00   couple other people heard you know that doesn't even seem to be a secret that [TS]

01:16:04   it's probably gonna come out with maverick's when Pakistan Mavericks 10.9 [TS]

01:16:11   ships in a couple of weeks probably [TS]

01:16:14   and that it will come back to Iowa seven then so it's not that they've got it [TS]

01:16:18   done today abandoned its just wasn't quite ready right now [TS]

01:16:23   well I mean in in actual fact that's what you need if you need Mavericks in [TS]

01:16:27   order to really share along well it's not true though because what if what if [TS]

01:16:31   you don't even have a Mac what if you just have an iPad and iPhone I to iCloud [TS]

01:16:35   keychain is useful to you right now is today so I don't think you need [TS]

01:16:39   Mavericks but you know apparently that's how they're going to how and when [TS]

01:16:44   they're going to demo it but anyway I can't help but think that at some point [TS]

01:16:48   in the future [TS]

01:16:49   iCloud keychain combined with touch I D would be great [TS]

01:16:54   right you know not now you know one Password is a great program and and I [TS]

01:16:59   hope you know have a long future ahead of them but built into the OS wouldn't [TS]

01:17:03   it be great if you need to fill in [TS]

01:17:05   password in a website that you could just do it with their thumb injuries are [TS]

01:17:10   absolutely i mean obviously you know I'm glad I don't have to be the guy [TS]

01:17:15   designing this here because I used to be pretty good at math like high school but [TS]

01:17:21   I'll tell you what I wasn't serious I need serious pressure too because you [TS]

01:17:27   gotta get there right but you know Apple has smart people who can do it and I [TS]

01:17:31   think that'd be great feature and you know the other big thing everybody is [TS]

01:17:35   going to speculate about using your phone for payments you know going to [TS]

01:17:40   Starbucks and buy a coffee in and pay for it by putting your scanner instead [TS]

01:17:46   of you know I could bar codes again [TS]

01:17:48   well here's here's something else do you allow third-party access to that I think [TS]

01:17:53   so too but that could be the sort of thing right see it happening and let's [TS]

01:17:57   say I was eight break points that they've had a year to shake some stuff [TS]

01:18:03   out but I think yes I think bottom i just i think they're very big plans for [TS]

01:18:08   the fingerprint scanning alright [TS]

01:18:13   my comments you find you're using the new 5s camera features in daily use a [TS]

01:18:21   more of a novelty like panorama I think burst mode is a daily thing I don't [TS]

01:18:27   think I think unless europe subjects are like posing like in front of something [TS]

01:18:32   and standing completely still there's no reason not to shoot a burst you know if [TS]

01:18:37   the kids moving around or you're shooting like kids playing soccer or or [TS]

01:18:43   you know if you're trying to get a still photo of your dog catching a frisbee [TS]

01:18:47   the burst mode to me is a is an everyday I think that's why they made it it's not [TS]

01:18:52   a mode you just hold down the shutter button right burst mode to me is is a [TS]

01:18:57   game-changer III I know that that's a cliche but it really I think it really [TS]

01:19:03   is I think it changes the way out take away it is particularly changes you know [TS]

01:19:07   i i cant imagine using a third-party camera app to shoot photos you know [TS]

01:19:12   whether I'm going to Instagram it or you know you some other apt to put the [TS]

01:19:16   filter on I I already shot most of my photos using the built-in system camera [TS]

01:19:21   and now I'll do it for sure because it's the only a person [TS]

01:19:24   well and and clearly I like the feature you know I have instances where that [TS]

01:19:33   will definitely come in handy [TS]

01:19:35   you know you know what I would like to see and I i did point that I would like [TS]

01:19:39   to see better night shots and low-light conditions shots yeah I think that's [TS]

01:19:44   where they're really running into the physics you know that you know and you [TS]

01:19:48   don't have to know what F stops are you don't know it's you know it's just [TS]

01:19:54   simple physics [TS]

01:19:56   the bigger the distance between the glass in the center of the moral the [TS]

01:20:00   bigger the glass can be and the more glass there is the more like comes in [TS]

01:20:04   and the bigger the distance the bigger the center itself can be a bigger [TS]

01:20:08   centres can get a better exposure in low light than a small sensor now compare [TS]

01:20:12   like that big honkin Canon SLR you saw me with last week the iPhone 5s and you [TS]

01:20:19   see that there are serious just simple physical limitations I mean it's this [TS]

01:20:23   tiny little lands and the center is only less than a quarter of an inch away [TS]

01:20:30   amazing that it does as well as it does I would be surprised if they've got you [TS]

01:20:34   know Apple in particular is working on truly revolutionary technology in that [TS]

01:20:39   regard but the iPhone 5s is not it is improved it does take better low-light [TS]

01:20:44   pictures but true as of yet as of 2013 there is no breakthrough technology that [TS]

01:20:51   lets you take the sort of low-light pictures you could take with a SLR and a [TS]

01:20:56   really fast lens on something this size I was when I was in London a couple [TS]

01:21:09   weeks ago I went out for a walk it was like midnight went for a walk and ended [TS]

01:21:13   up in Trafalgar Square and took a nice shot posted it on facebook and when I [TS]

01:21:22   get back to the hotel later I looked at it and it was just it was crap you know [TS]

01:21:27   grainy in awful and see this is where me not being a photographer I look at it [TS]

01:21:33   and say no but I guess there's something called physics that is a good question [TS]

01:21:44   lot of people asked about this so the big news with the five see again it's [TS]

01:21:54   not an engineering difference it's a marketing and branding change from prior [TS]

01:21:59   years but that alone that's not to diminish it I thought I love marketing [TS]

01:22:04   and branding I think it's as important as an engineering upgrade like the 5s [TS]

01:22:10   but they've clearly split the iPhone into a family of new products right like [TS]

01:22:17   the way the MacBooks have the MacBook Airs and the MacBook Pros the way the [TS]

01:22:21   desktops have IMAX and Mac Pros and now we have five sea and the 5s where you [TS]

01:22:28   think the names are gonna go next year presumably presumably the high end one [TS]

01:22:34   is going to be an iPhone 6 but what I i'm really loud applause i mean Apple's [TS]

01:22:41   naming often confuses me I I honestly have no idea what to guess cause I I [TS]

01:22:47   dunno I think that they're going to have now that they've split into their gonna [TS]

01:22:51   have to dive into gonna have two new ones every year [TS]

01:22:54   well they they pretty much have to write I think next year will see a new [TS]

01:22:58   high-end phone that replaces the 50 S I think we will see in new mid-range phone [TS]

01:23:04   that replaces the five see in my guesses the five seed today's 5 see will move [TS]

01:23:10   down to the free with contract range and and then but what will they call them I [TS]

01:23:17   really have no idea I don't know how to guess yeah and you know they could end [TS]

01:23:21   up in naming convention trouble every year but will the figure something but [TS]

01:23:28   yeah that's a good I mean they can't just name it well I suppose they could [TS]

01:23:32   they could name in the sixth and the six see or do they go the sixty squared [TS]

01:23:38   here's here's my best guess but I would not want to wager more than five bucks [TS]

01:23:45   on it is that they would go to iPhone 6 just plain 60 letter and that's the new [TS]

01:23:53   high-end one and that mid-range ones days plastic maybe they change up the [TS]

01:23:58   colors and it would be called the iPhone 5 see s they've gone to letters before [TS]

01:24:04   they had the 3G S but so I don't think would be unprecedented would be the five [TS]

01:24:09   ccs would be like an iPhone 5 see but with the a seven and maybe the better [TS]

01:24:14   camera with the burst mode and that's my best guess but I really don't know [TS]

01:24:19   yeah it's a good guess very hard for me to get these names really confuse me and [TS]

01:24:28   really almost it almost makes me happy that they've done with iPad they just [TS]

01:24:32   call iPad and we just go for you know we the writers have to just go like fourth [TS]

01:24:35   generation right here [TS]

01:24:47   performance seems a little leg in my current gen iPod Touch I haven't spent a [TS]

01:24:55   lot of time with iOS 7 now the iPod Touch is for ass caliber rifle and a [TS]

01:25:04   five in fact I don't even think I installed it on my for us I think I kept [TS]

01:25:09   my for s right I was six I sort of need my old iPhones down for testing [TS]

01:25:17   yeah I've heard that from other people and in fact I like I've heard a couple [TS]

01:25:23   they even you can get iPhone iOS 7 on the even on the iPhone 4 iOS and I've [TS]

01:25:28   heard it's really pretty like there and that's that sucks for people who upgrade [TS]

01:25:33   trusting Apple if it's true I i dont know tho personal yeah I don't know why [TS]

01:25:38   there I've only installed it on a 55 and my iPad me and my my iPad I actually my [TS]

01:25:47   iPad Mini is the one that I left Iowa sex blow up that but it wouldn't be the [TS]

01:25:53   first time in fact it usually seems to be the case that whatever the least [TS]

01:25:57   supported iPhone is for a new version of iOS it's a little leg yeah so I dunno [TS]

01:26:04   not sure what to say about that sorry if that's what you think [TS]

01:26:11   that's here's one that's a good one this ones from Amy Jane Gruber seriously [TS]

01:26:23   what's the deal with the answer what's the deal with the answer in our shit I [TS]

01:26:36   think one terror already answered that I guess that means for me not for you [TS]

01:26:42   yeah I don't know we've got these little baby answered our shower and it doesn't [TS]

01:26:46   seem like you know the pesticide I'm not sure what the deal is so sorry Amy [TS]

01:26:54   income up Aaron showering Canada you know you can live in an igloo for a [TS]

01:27:01   while no ends it what color iPhone 5s did you get told ya so that I want [TS]

01:27:08   everybody to know not God black yeah I noticed that what's your take on the [TS]

01:27:13   goal I love the gold I really do when when I first it was actually opposed [TS]

01:27:20   that you link to when news of the champagne or gold first came out [TS]

01:27:28   you rightly pointed to the fact that Apple had really school products before [TS]

01:27:32   in an iPad Mini or a story on iPod mini right and it was ugly as hell on my car [TS]

01:27:40   that thing was a good I am I remembered when when I clicked on your your link [TS]

01:27:45   and I thought I never one of one of those and I was kinda I was worried but [TS]

01:27:50   I i thought i get a given Apple's design credit and as soon as I saw definitely [TS]

01:28:02   yeah I'm III the gold as far as I rode the gold is not my gripe with it I kinda [TS]

01:28:08   like the gold it's the white I just don't like the white face around anymore [TS]

01:28:11   I just like I like it when it's often just look like us black Irish I almost [TS]

01:28:17   wish that they had four phones black with space grey white with silver white [TS]

01:28:24   with gold and black with the cold I think the black with the gold could be a [TS]

01:28:27   cool look you know I guess you're in your parlance it would be like a Boston [TS]

01:28:34   Bruins look right that would be I need a while I was gonna say Pittsburgh [TS]

01:28:40   Steelers but I was trying to put it in terms that you would understand I told [TS]

01:28:45   them I wanted a purple phone I want a loop phone no no purple or purple with [TS]

01:28:52   the help well you know what there's clearly there once they've now that [TS]

01:28:55   they've gone plastic with the mid-range I think that there i mean whether they [TS]

01:28:59   were whether they'll change the palate every year or not I don't know but [TS]

01:29:02   there's almost an infant range of colors that they could go to now easily through [TS]

01:29:07   a question from a reader but I didn't really mention this but I think looking [TS]

01:29:15   at especially in hands-on area last week where you can look at all five of the [TS]

01:29:19   five see colors together it's there so designed with the color palette of Iowa [TS]

01:29:26   seven in mind it's you know I don't know like that's the one thing I know people [TS]

01:29:32   complain about the icons and complain about this now when I was seven first [TS]

01:29:35   came out but there were a lot of color complained about the color palette and i [TS]

01:29:39   think is as the months have gone on everybody's sort of unless I'm missing [TS]

01:29:43   something everybody sort of shut up about that I feel like they were just [TS]

01:29:46   you know they're they're skating to where the puck [TS]

01:29:49   was heading in terms of what colors are in and I think that the hardware and [TS]

01:29:55   software are so clearly from the same design movement [TS]

01:29:55   software are so clearly from the same design movement [TS]

01:30:00   it's you know it's almost unprecedented album it may be the last time that the [TS]

01:30:05   hardware and software seemed so clearly designed together was like the original [TS]

01:30:09   IMAX those candy translucent plastics combined with the original version of [TS]

01:30:15   Mac OS 10 the trash yeah I am I really like the way that the 25 °c feels it [TS]

01:30:26   doesn't feel like plastic to me now it almost feels ceramic or an animal yeah [TS]

01:30:32   and yeah that's it you know I had the same thought I have a Lumia 800 from [TS]

01:30:38   Nokia here and I think that they're still making there's out of the same [TS]

01:30:41   polycarbonate now they're they're gone a different route with their plastic [TS]

01:30:46   there's has more of its its not polished in shiny it's more of a matte finish but [TS]

01:30:54   it is without question the only phone I have held in years that rivals and [TS]

01:30:59   iPhone 4 build quality and that's a good you know the mat is a you know but it's [TS]

01:31:03   real [TS]

01:31:03   just like the the five see it builds rigid and not like plastic it feels like [TS]

01:31:10   something I don't know the word plastic has this cheap connotation that that the [TS]

01:31:14   iPhone 5 seed doesn't feel like and that the Lumia is do not feel like even know [TS]

01:31:19   the iPhones are very very glossy almost super glossy and the Lumineers are the [TS]

01:31:25   opposite of glossy they're mad at two different ways to go but with modern [TS]

01:31:28   materials whereas I think the old gold 3G 3G s kinda did feel plasticky in a [TS]

01:31:35   cheap way you know somebody i I wasn't sure if I like the feel of the five see [TS]

01:31:44   better than than the old ones or if I was somebody asked me this yesterday and [TS]

01:31:49   I said yesterday felt more sturdy but then you know I responded back again and [TS]

01:31:54   said they're they're two different shapes and you know when you're in my [TS]

01:31:58   convincing myself that the 5 C's more sturdy or is it actually a sturdier [TS]

01:32:03   phone I'm really do think it is earlier [TS]

01:32:06   yeah I guess it will be up to the eye to take apart guys to to determine it but [TS]

01:32:12   Apple talked about the fact that it has this rigid steel frame inside which I [TS]

01:32:16   don't think that the 3G S had I don't think so you know I think that there's a [TS]

01:32:21   steel frame inside here that you know that really does add a rigidity to the [TS]

01:32:26   whole thing that you didn't have in the 3G 3G s you remember I told you that [TS]

01:32:33   that when I went back to the home screen on my mi 5s that the icons jumped idea [TS]

01:32:41   and I didn't put that in my review because I found a 10 was what was it [TS]

01:32:49   it's the background so I 22 tested I opened up a folder so there's no no [TS]

01:32:56   icons really to jump opened up a folder in the background moved so whether it's [TS]

01:33:02   the way of holding the phone or you know maybe I tilt the phone down when i when [TS]

01:33:07   i do it so the background moves and it looked like the icons were moving so [TS]

01:33:13   look like a little video glitch or something when you when you went back to [TS]

01:33:18   the the things when you were back to the home screen so yeah hey did you try the [TS]

01:33:24   emotion that the moving wallpapers yeah are you using one I was using one up [TS]

01:33:34   until last night I had the little you know the little bubbles and then I put a [TS]

01:33:41   plan on their instant I found it just a little distracting yeah I did use it for [TS]

01:33:46   a day though and it didn't seem to have any adverse effect on battery life I [TS]

01:33:51   think I think that makes some say something maybe I'm a lot of sense [TS]

01:33:54   because who spends a lot of time with their home screen open right it should [TS]

01:33:59   only have backed the battery life while the home screens open and who really has [TS]

01:34:02   the display on on the home screen for more than a few seconds at a time [TS]

01:34:06   true it's nice and they don't know what's going on in the background either [TS]

01:34:11   it's also interesting to me that the default wallpapers are not they've added [TS]

01:34:16   this feature now [TS]

01:34:17   have motion wallpapers but none of the default wallpapers are moving that's a [TS]

01:34:23   little interesting to me because usually if your gonna add something like that [TS]

01:34:26   you can use it by default i'm looking ahead and now I have the star system or [TS]

01:34:34   whatever it is and it's moving I don't have the emotional I don't you know they [TS]

01:34:41   look ok but I don't like I like the monochrome I like the real I feel like [TS]

01:34:47   with the brighter and more vibrant icons having like of monochromatic background [TS]

01:34:51   really makes the icon pop I'm going to try and that you don't like them but you [TS]

01:34:56   advance in the shower to exactly you know here's jeff schwab on Twitter he [TS]

01:35:00   says these ants never would have infiltrated the shower of Steve Jobs [TS]

01:35:03   were still in charge thanks Obama yeah I guess he's right [TS]

01:35:10   jobs or so let's see here who built the a seven processor [TS]

01:35:19   good question and non thinks it's Samsung even though we're all sort of it [TS]

01:35:25   there's so much speculation that this is the year that Apple has finally broken [TS]

01:35:28   away from Samsung is there at CPU maker his best guess to Samsung and its be [TS]

01:35:32   really tough for me to bet against a non yea I wouldn't I wouldn't bet against [TS]

01:35:37   cause then he would call when asked me a question about the processors have to [TS]

01:35:40   hang up so my guess is I think it's Samsung because a non says so but I'm [TS]

01:35:45   hoping it's that TSM see because the house that would be very cool yeah but [TS]

01:35:52   we'll find out I guess we'll find out tomorrow night because I as i fix it [TS]

01:35:56   guys there I love those guys because they they fly they don't live there they [TS]

01:36:01   fly out a book tickets to go to Australia by Lisa haven't past year that [TS]

01:36:06   I know they're doing it this year but the last few years they booked tickets [TS]

01:36:09   to go to Australia because that is where the International Date Line is that for [TS]

01:36:13   the iPhone for his goes on sale to get one first and start their habit like [TS]

01:36:17   taking apart [TS]

01:36:19   before 8 a.m. Eastern Time in the USA even rolls around so I hope we will find [TS]

01:36:25   out some answers on that probably within 24 hours but I don't know what to guess [TS]

01:36:31   there's no I have no information and I asked around a little bit and got zero [TS]

01:36:36   answer apple just does not talk about the suppliers even if they know that you [TS]

01:36:41   know i fix its gonna take this thing apart in 48 hours they won't tell you [TS]

01:36:45   off the record they just do not talk about it [TS]

01:36:47   absolutely not there's actually a good follow-up here how does touch I D work [TS]

01:36:54   when you swipe over a specific notification so when you're on the home [TS]

01:37:01   screen in your phone is locked and there's no one email at of 10 the you [TS]

01:37:05   want to read if you swipe on that email in your hand you bring up the you know [TS]

01:37:14   the pad the passcode the passcode and then you just rest your thumb on the on [TS]

01:37:21   the center of the fingerprint sensor and it'll open up directly into that message [TS]

01:37:25   rights but the first like you ordinarily would and instead of entering the code [TS]

01:37:28   you do the thing also a nice touch on power in touch I D if you buy habit [TS]

01:37:34   start entering your passcode and then wait why am I doing this all just you've [TS]

01:37:40   ended like two out of the four digits why am I doing this you touch the home [TS]

01:37:43   button it still works like you don't have you know the test and the and the [TS]

01:37:47   animation films in the dots on your code which I touch ya so that you know I was [TS]

01:37:54   Daniel middle COAG as I one that's actually a good one I found that 10 by [TS]

01:38:01   mistake as I often do that you know you get a message and I i want to read it [TS]

01:38:05   all go directly to that one [TS]

01:38:07   yeah it's actually very much the same as it was when you used to pass could you [TS]

01:38:11   just you just do the touch I T one once you get to the passcode screen whereas [TS]

01:38:15   if you just want to open the iPhone you don't even have to get to the basket [TS]

01:38:18   screen you just turn the phone on in [TS]

01:38:21   and touch the sensor lights and in case anybody is wondering you can add [TS]

01:38:29   multiple finger prints to yes and they don't have to know obviously they don't [TS]

01:38:34   all have to be yours like I wrote you could do both your thumbs both index [TS]

01:38:39   fingers and let your spouse had one just you know for emergency purposes if you [TS]

01:38:47   had a yellow banana yellow iPhone 5 Siena banana which would you put in your [TS]

01:38:52   pants I i think is easier than you put one in the one right pocket one unless [TS]

01:38:59   it seems seems easy to me thank you Mike a great question from Thomas Richards [TS]

01:39:06   fingerprint scanner on iPad yes or no [TS]

01:39:09   say this year's iPad that's a good question I i say yes I'm gonna say I [TS]

01:39:18   hope so but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is no you know I can I wonder [TS]

01:39:25   here then here's why say that is just because of that mantra of our most [TS]

01:39:30   forward-thinking iPhone yet you know and forward-thinking forward-thinking they [TS]

01:39:35   keep saying that which makes me wonder if how much that some of this stuff [TS]

01:39:38   isn't coming to other iOS devices until next year [TS]

01:39:43   well I will say this just just to be perfectly clear I know nothing about you [TS]

01:39:49   know fingerprint thing on on the new iPad but I'll go yes because I think [TS]

01:39:56   even though the iPhone is the most forward-thinking product they've known [TS]

01:40:01   about it for some time and I think that they would've yeah and it could be too [TS]

01:40:07   that it may be it appears on the full-size iPad but not the iPad Mini or [TS]

01:40:12   or some other way that they will tear the iPad similarly where the [TS]

01:40:16   lower-priced models don't have it but the higher price months do I can see [TS]

01:40:20   that [TS]

01:40:21   there's nothing I heard today this is scuttlebutt does not from Mike [TS]

01:40:25   second hand but it does make sense is that the 64 bit and the arm V eight that [TS]

01:40:34   whole move on the a seven had to happen for touch I D that touch I D can only [TS]

01:40:41   work with the arm V eight and 64 bit they couldn't do touch idea until they [TS]

01:40:48   did that and and the explanation i think is because one of the promise advantages [TS]

01:40:54   of R&B eight is that the instruction set now has cryptographic shortcuts that [TS]

01:41:01   some of the common cryptographic algorithms are built into the CPU so [TS]

01:41:07   instead of actually computing the math the traditional way it's just a short [TS]

01:41:12   cut where if your code needs to do you know a yes [TS]

01:41:17   256 bit encryption it's it's an instruction code right on the processor [TS]

01:41:21   and it just goes through and so that that's one of those things that helps [TS]

01:41:26   make touch I D instantaneous because none of this stuff is it can emphasize [TS]

01:41:34   this enough there are no pictures of your thumb print or fingerprint stored [TS]

01:41:39   anywhere right it's it's an encrypted I D where your thumb print is part of what [TS]

01:41:46   makes the I D but that the whole thing gets computed instantly and that you [TS]

01:41:51   know so I don't know if that's true but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it is [TS]

01:41:55   true and that touch I D will only appear as devices get the a seven [TS]

01:42:01   system-on-a-chip [TS]

01:42:03   I wouldn't be surprised at all if that in fact I you know why what's the point [TS]

01:42:06   of making new iPad this year if at least the high end ones don't go to the a [TS]

01:42:10   seven and so if I go to the 87 who knows maybe maybe the touch I D center is not [TS]

01:42:14   that that relatively expensive and so maybe it's a no-brainer yeah of course I [TS]

01:42:21   i just i think it will end maybe it'll be some you know layering of of how they [TS]

01:42:26   do it but you know the way that they didn't if you look at next year you know [TS]

01:42:31   they have the the five ccs as you mentioned earlier then it'll definitely [TS]

01:42:37   got it yeah this one gets it because it's already so worked up perfectly yeah [TS]

01:42:42   so anyway I'm I think the answer is probably / hopefully this year for the [TS]

01:42:48   iPad and definitely eventually next year at the latest I pedaled definitely have [TS]

01:42:53   to touch a touch a deal within two years will be on all all iPhones and iPads no [TS]

01:42:58   doubt it's you know it's absolutely the future of logging into your device [TS]

01:43:04   here's the thing I was told by Apple and I believe it is that over the course of [TS]

01:43:08   developing touch I D they actually had to dial back the places where you still [TS]

01:43:14   have to enter your passcode and your store I D because they realized that if [TS]

01:43:20   you never had to enter it you'd forget it right that you you know you only get [TS]

01:43:26   to use touch idea if you set up a pass code or password if your passphrase if [TS]

01:43:30   you want the longer one for your phone but if they let you log into without [TS]

01:43:33   ever having to use it like for example if you turn your power your phone all [TS]

01:43:37   the way off and empowered on you have to enter the code after a code before you [TS]

01:43:42   can login using your thumb and I they had it set up at some point where you [TS]

01:43:46   could just once you set up some you can always use the thumb but they realized [TS]

01:43:49   that the people who did that they've they forgot their baskets kinda funny [TS]

01:43:53   that is kind of funny and and you know what today I went to buy something on [TS]

01:43:58   the App Store and asked me for two to manually put in my my passcode even [TS]

01:44:05   though I do I and activated they purchased by some so what's what's up in [TS]

01:44:09   like a week maybe maybe a pops up every now and then and yeah I'm not sure what [TS]

01:44:14   I'm not sure what the rule is [TS]

01:44:16   it's a timing thing for my friend that irons as I know he asked yesterday in [TS]

01:44:23   the Verizon iPhone walk and chew gum at the same time meaning when you're on a [TS]

01:44:29   phone call to use can you still get LTE date can you get LTE data or does it [TS]

01:44:35   drop back to edge in the bad news is I've tested this it cannot it still [TS]

01:44:39   enjoy when you're honest cell phone call on Verizon data drops to edge [TS]

01:44:45   well you know but good thing for me I don't I don't make a lot of voice calls [TS]

01:44:53   and we don't anymore do we know and you know what's interesting now that I was [TS]

01:44:58   seven thousand everybody I know is going to upgrade I'm interested to know how [TS]

01:45:02   many of the voice calls I do make will go as voice only FaceTime calls yeah and [TS]

01:45:09   a the quality should be way better and be because that's just data it'll still [TS]

01:45:14   be it'll still have you know it will solve that problem when you make a voice [TS]

01:45:18   only FaceTime call instead of an official phone call you know you'll [TS]

01:45:24   you'll you'll work around that problem but now Verizon users my test units were [TS]

01:45:29   both on Verizon know the Verizon doesn't work it it's funny animal when you look [TS]

01:45:34   at boys calls I mean it's to the point now where I my daughter she's twenty she [TS]

01:45:46   thinks that you know something's catastrophe must have happened if [TS]

01:45:49   there's an actual voice call why wouldn't you just text when someone even [TS]

01:45:52   answers [TS]

01:45:53   my life never it's a chance for me to anybody else calls or nobody said she [TS]

01:46:00   says she never answers her phone in never listen to voicemail she's got a [TS]

01:46:05   red badge on the phone at this as a hundred and forty-seven lovett hey how's [TS]

01:46:11   your question for you so I guess Apple I never thought about this but your review [TS]

01:46:14   units are they there they're set up for Lake Bell Canada or whatever the hell [TS]

01:46:19   you have up there no I actually have [TS]

01:46:21   I've had an AT&T account for about 15 years and I just works [TS]

01:46:26   yeah yeah I don't know that there's a question from joan barone on a boning [TS]

01:46:34   Adam McQuaid sure how to pronounce his name he just updated 7 the launch and [TS]

01:46:41   close a ban emissions time waster ways to turn off sorry five years haven't [TS]

01:46:46   looked at as far as I know there is no way to turn them off I don't know maybe [TS]

01:46:52   inaccessibility I don't know if there's like a sea sickness setting or something [TS]

01:46:54   like that but I don't think their time wasters I you know I guess some people [TS]

01:46:59   are annoyed by them but I think that day I think that they're pleasant cause to [TS]

01:47:04   me they give you a sense of place in the OS yeah I like them so I like them too [TS]

01:47:09   and it's a multitasking love multitasking there you know the way that [TS]

01:47:16   you go into it the way they you get out of it the other way it's sort of like a [TS]

01:47:20   half there's like that the home screen and when you're in an app which is full [TS]

01:47:25   screen and multitasking exists like halfway in between the two which i think [TS]

01:47:30   is perfect conceptually what was it that West had these kind of multitasking [TS]

01:47:38   hikers yes I thought it was great very satirist and it's you know and like [TS]

01:47:44   flicking the things the closing is kind of fun same thing with hook in the tabs [TS]

01:47:47   in Safari to close them right on yeah it's a question from David E [TS]

01:47:53   good friend I met him at Webb stock decir to develop given the scale of [TS]

01:48:00   changes needed to support iOS 7 when will Apple stopped accepting apps linked [TS]

01:48:07   against iOS 6 [TS]

01:48:10   let me think about that I think it's gonna be pretty pretty median I think no [TS]

01:48:17   no [TS]

01:48:18   in other words they might stay might stop accepting IOUs six only apps ones [TS]

01:48:24   that aren't native 47 but but when would they stop accepting apps that also [TS]

01:48:30   supports six you know when I think that might be a ways off yet honestly I do [TS]

01:48:37   because I think that there are even know even though I expect you know just like [TS]

01:48:45   with iOS 6 which reads like 95% of the iOS installed base I expect I was 72 [TS]

01:48:50   within a few months be running on ninety-plus percent of iOS devices at [TS]

01:48:55   which point I think a reasonable developer could say it im just gonna [TS]

01:49:00   erased the hassles of supporting both and just go I S seven only there are [TS]

01:49:04   institutions that that even though that makes sense to me I think that [TS]

01:49:07   culturally there are places where they're like no no no we want everybody [TS]

01:49:11   so we're gonna still you know linked I was 6 or iOS 5 even or something like [TS]

01:49:15   that so I think it'll be awhile before Apple doesn't let you do that but I [TS]

01:49:20   think you know conversely let me flip the question around I don't think [TS]

01:49:24   developers should hesitate to go Iowa 7 only I thought I think it eliminates [TS]

01:49:31   hassles I don't think you lose many users I think the users you do lose are [TS]

01:49:35   not your best customers and there are so many cool things and Iowa 7 like text [TS]

01:49:40   kit that it just makes you know you can't use it can't really can't dive [TS]

01:49:48   into text and still support our sex yeah and the background updates if you have [TS]

01:49:54   an app that downloads content from the web I mean there's so much stuff I was [TS]

01:49:57   seven is such a great update yeah I think developers shouldn't wait for [TS]

01:50:02   Apple to make them drop iOS 6 just dropping go ahead I I couldn't agree [TS]

01:50:07   more I've said that you know about every major update you know how far back [TS]

01:50:12   should we go to put it really it depends on on what kind of cool features you [TS]

01:50:17   want to offer your users as a developer and you know as a user I want you to [TS]

01:50:23   make the best out you can have that means you're going i 07 only do it [TS]

01:50:27   yeah the absolute best you can and I think that's what I think that's what [TS]

01:50:31   iPhone customers want to really do I think that's the reason they picked up [TS]

01:50:34   funds in the first place [TS]

01:50:36   please advise on blaming or gunmetal spacey color thanks guys can't wait for [TS]

01:50:42   the show that's from Rob Richmond lemme know it's really hard to recommend that [TS]

01:50:46   without you know if the people who want to order at midnight without having seen [TS]

01:50:50   them in person cuz I wanna get it ASAP [TS]

01:50:53   you know you're gonna have to go with your gut all I can say about the gold [TS]

01:50:57   you really like it all and say it's it's as nice as gold could be I wouldn't the [TS]

01:51:01   golden keep me from getting it and if I were going to get one of somebody said [TS]

01:51:05   to me you can't get black you have to get one of the two with the white face [TS]

01:51:08   I'd go with the gold just because I think it looks cool and it's kinda new [TS]

01:51:12   but it is not looking like it doesn't look like Donald Trump's phone right and [TS]

01:51:18   that's part of what I was afraid of me personally I like the black and I think [TS]

01:51:23   the Black is an up and really nice upgrade over last year's which I still [TS]

01:51:27   like my phone last year the best way I can put it in a cup of tea in a couple [TS]

01:51:31   I'm not the only person is observed this to me and this is I haven't seen the [TS]

01:51:35   black one in a week having seen it since I was in the hands on area [TS]

01:51:38   last week in Cupertino but you know it in hindsight and I studied a lot there [TS]

01:51:43   it really reminds me of the original iPhone the 2007 one with the black face [TS]

01:51:48   and the black plastic on the back for the antenna and that silver you know [TS]

01:51:52   sort of you know metal back it it's sort of being black colored its dark metal [TS]

01:51:57   colored yeah if you like black phone you're gonna love the space great one [TS]

01:52:03   none of them look bad now if you took i five of those gold ones and put them [TS]

01:52:10   around her neck on a chain yeah yeah somebody's gonna do that somebody's [TS]

01:52:14   gotta do that you can get it blaming you can definitely bring it up a little but [TS]

01:52:19   it's not easy don't look at it that also video shot at 120 frames per second can [TS]

01:52:34   export playback at a hundred and twenty frames per second I don't know like I [TS]

01:52:39   think it would if you like if you if you share it I i I could be wrong here this [TS]

01:52:46   is from Eric van quill esquire doesn't look like an esquire judging by his his [TS]

01:52:52   Twitter idea but I'll give it classy guy with anybody there squire after you [TS]

01:52:59   question I think the way it works is if you export like through the sharing menu [TS]

01:53:04   it's going two down sampled at 30 frames per second and and turn the slow mo you [TS]

01:53:10   know it all be 30 frames per second I think if you just connected as a USB [TS]

01:53:14   device and use iPhoto or [TS]

01:53:17   image capture or whatever the whatever that thing is that the thing that just [TS]

01:53:23   sucks photos off the camera and camera the camera yeah but it can capture it [TS]

01:53:33   all come off as just the raw data so it will come off I think as a hundred and [TS]

01:53:36   twenty frames per second I can't imagine that it wouldn't just you know I [TS]

01:53:41   actually didn't do that I'm trying to log in and look for the for the movie [TS]

01:53:49   that I posted and see what it is [TS]

01:53:53   will be moved on by the time I get there any issues with battery life on the [TS]

01:53:59   iPhone 5 Ars Technica tests show its way worse and I've had similar issues i [TS]

01:54:05   presume that means with an old iPhone 5 upgraded to iOS 7 I haven't done [TS]

01:54:10   extensive testing I like I said I've been running iOS 7 on my main iPhone all [TS]

01:54:15   summer long since beta three things since July tired I didn't notice any [TS]

01:54:21   real difference no improvement no worsening of battery life over the [TS]

01:54:26   summer and I you know I did a lot of vacations in and traveling over summer [TS]

01:54:30   so I actually use my iPhone lot and have any problems but I don't doubt if I was [TS]

01:54:34   technique as test the show that whereas I don't know but I didn't think it was [TS]

01:54:38   bad I actually did have some some problems starting off but that was you [TS]

01:54:47   know that was one of these pages and I to be honest I am really worried about I [TS]

01:54:53   had won I guess I should say I had one and I again I just chalk this up to [TS]

01:54:57   being bad I had one last month where I got the 20% warning words like I first [TS]

01:55:04   time I got the warning said hey you're down warning you're down to twenty [TS]

01:55:06   percent and the battery on ran [TS]

01:55:08   and then the phone shut down you know when you get 20 literally about 30 [TS]

01:55:15   seconds later like it went from twenty 20 and 30 seconds and I thought wow [TS]

01:55:20   that's scary and i charged it up and then ever since I never saw that happen [TS]

01:55:24   again but I you know but that to me is what happens when you install the beta [TS]

01:55:28   exactly and and since I am with the 25 ass I noticed a lot better battery life [TS]

01:55:35   with the the updated version of of Iowa seven because you don't know what's on [TS]

01:55:40   in the background in in these babies I'm in the you know the good of debugging [TS]

01:55:44   stuff they could have you know all kinds of stuff going on and I think it matters [TS]

01:55:49   to as to what else you have turned on what apps have you granted location [TS]

01:55:52   tracking privileges to bluetooth on and what are you allowing two to connect to [TS]

01:55:58   you by blue tooth I know I I have about one of those people watches and I really [TS]

01:56:05   didn't like it I didn't write about it just because it maybe I will when I [TS]

01:56:10   speculate more about watches in the future but anyway long story short I [TS]

01:56:13   definitely notice and didn't see anybody else complain about it I definitely [TS]

01:56:16   knows that just pairing the Pebble watch with my iPhone really hurt battery life [TS]

01:56:21   on my phone and it was you know I don't get a lot of phone calls or texts all [TS]

01:56:24   day so it wasn't like there were tons of notifications going back and forth just [TS]

01:56:28   pairing them I noticed a noticeable difference so I guess it depends only [TS]

01:56:33   got ya I tend to keep everything a lot of things off and I don't know my email [TS]

01:56:37   check in the background I'm now having died fight for five or six years I just [TS]

01:56:41   check email when I open the mail I have that stuff on I I have wifi on Bluetooth [TS]

01:56:50   you know i i turn off when I'm traveling yeah but you do need Bluetooth rare drop [TS]

01:56:56   though that's a reason to keep bluetooth on but I think if you just turn [TS]

01:56:59   bluetooth on but don't care anything you know and just wait and use it for air [TS]

01:57:03   drop it shouldn't really have much of an effect that's true to get back to ask [TS]

01:57:08   wires question the videos that I exported from my iPhone using slow mo [TS]

01:57:14   expert exported in H 264 568 by 320 fps 30 which used to export them the iPhone [TS]

01:57:29   yeah yeah that makes sense I think if you connected to the call again cut them [TS]

01:57:37   and image capture image capture yeah that I think they'll come off as just [TS]

01:57:42   the Royal hundred twenty-three per second video and in the the data rate [TS]

01:57:46   was a 26 per second so you know it's not a high def movi but that's not what they [TS]

01:57:55   were going for either here's another question seemed I think we'll ask where [TS]

01:58:00   does the flashlight light up both LEDs yes how hard is the leather case to [TS]

01:58:05   remove not too hard but I found kinda hard cuz I'm put it on I did because [TS]

01:58:12   when I was walking around the first few days especially when I saw in San [TS]

01:58:15   Francisco where more people know me and and more people are tech-savvy I did not [TS]

01:58:20   want anybody to ask me about that god damn cold iPhone the rules of reviewing [TS]

01:58:26   it [TS]

01:58:26   are you are you are allowed to they want you to use it I mean it's not you know [TS]

01:58:30   i'd get you get in any trouble if somebody says hey John Gruber has a cold [TS]

01:58:34   I found I saw you supposed to use it [TS]

01:58:36   you're not supposed to show it off you can't let other people touch it I just [TS]

01:58:40   don't even wanna bother putting in a case with just make sure you know I [TS]

01:58:43   wanted to try the case I found it a little hard to take out off and then [TS]

01:58:48   I'll but I think in a good way where its icon solid the robbery case the silicon [TS]

01:58:52   case for the [TS]

01:58:55   the 5 C's really easy to get on and off though because its stretchy as opposed [TS]

01:58:59   to the other 12 today and as the flashlight light up but yes it does [TS]

01:59:06   here's Ryan Jones Ryan Jones asks predict 5 a sellout time one minute III [TS]

01:59:14   I don't think it's going to be very constrained yeah although you know what [TS]

01:59:20   is sell-out like if it you know it's gonna dropped I think it's gonna drop to [TS]

01:59:23   you know to two weeks very quickly 'cause who knows I mean it doesn't even [TS]

01:59:29   go on sale to the 22 knows what the first person who gets their order and [TS]

01:59:34   who knows what the delivery time is that Apple hasn't said for online stuff i [TS]

01:59:39   mean obviously if you really want one on the twenty at the only way to do it is [TS]

01:59:43   to get in line at an Apple store right I thought I think yesterday were where I [TS]

01:59:48   think AllThingsD a report from carriers that said that they got like [TS]

01:59:51   ridiculously small shipment of 5 S's well don't you know don't forget that [TS]

01:59:57   Tim Cook even said I mean this isn't speculation Tim Cook said specifically [TS]

02:00:00   earlier this year that they would like to sell a higher proportion of iPhones [TS]

02:00:04   through their own stores you know you know that that the carriers got fewer [TS]

02:00:09   doesn't mean that Apple stores will have fewer exactly right yeah I mean my [TS]

02:00:15   invite people read the worst into this stuff and not always the worst it is [TS]

02:00:20   gonna be tight though there's no doubt in my mind that I know for a fact that's [TS]

02:00:24   why they didn't take pre-orders of it because it's going to be tight it harder [TS]

02:00:27   to make and who knows what the reason is that the a seven is it the touch [TS]

02:00:31   IdeaCentre is it both who knows but it's you know it's new it's new components [TS]

02:00:37   there and they're in their enduring demand it could be something as simple [TS]

02:00:42   as they may not last minute change yeah and you know start over again but if you [TS]

02:00:51   want one on day one and you want to go to get up early and go to retail stores [TS]

02:00:55   don't think that hey everybody is going to go to the Apple store so I'll go to [TS]

02:01:00   Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or whatever [TS]

02:01:02   and beat the Lions I think that's the wrong way to do it I think if you really [TS]

02:01:06   want a one your best bet is to bite the bullet and get up in the middle of the [TS]

02:01:09   night and get in line at your local Apple store because the Apple Store is [TS]

02:01:12   gonna have a lot more than the carriers agreed is Apple done with school morphic [TS]

02:01:21   designed for good is there room for NIOS CGI books I think I'll tell you what [TS]

02:01:29   this year I expect a new version of iBooks probably at the iPad event I'm [TS]

02:01:34   surprised we didn't get it already I guess maybe they're waiting for the iPad [TS]

02:01:38   event I don't know but I would be shocked if they don't redesign iBooks [TS]

02:01:41   along the lines of newsstand where they get rid of this school morphism is it [TS]

02:01:47   gone for good [TS]

02:01:49   i mean you know forever is a long time and you know fashion moves in cycles I I [TS]

02:01:56   hope it's not at all I think it will start coming back in small doses you [TS]

02:02:00   know I think part of what brought the end of it was that it it was taken to [TS]

02:02:05   its logical conclusion where it couldn't get any more secure morphic right into [TS]

02:02:12   screens and the incredible color fidelity of these iOS devices you know [TS]

02:02:19   it couldn't get any more so I think it was taken to an extreme and then they [TS]

02:02:22   you know dial it back I think that you know it's almost like a dial that went [TS]

02:02:26   all the way around 20 and now it'll start picking up the other way I guess [TS]

02:02:30   yep I hope so i i dont wanna see them get rid of it all together it's so hard [TS]

02:02:37   to detect fashion trends in the short term you have to kind of take a [TS]

02:02:40   long-term look let's see might be wrapping up you see any other good [TS]

02:02:49   questions I don't sorry if I missed your good question I'm sure that it was great [TS]

02:02:55   and it's my fault that I missed it if you're out there and you did send send a [TS]

02:02:58   question [TS]

02:03:02   go and see the new Notification Center I think I I found it too I find it to be [TS]

02:03:07   very useful I think it the reorganization of it is is better to [TS]

02:03:12   me I like Notification Center on on iOS and the Mac I I find it to be very [TS]

02:03:19   useful features another one of those things that that fixes a pain point for [TS]

02:03:24   me you know one that I didn't really know that there was a fix for I I can be [TS]

02:03:29   working on either a Mac OS and get a notification to his clients up and see [TS]

02:03:36   ok it's nothing I have to worry about and then keep working instead of [TS]

02:03:39   stopping going to email and saying I was at the email from where I was waiting [TS]

02:03:44   for no its not then go back and you know you kinda luger your train you know the [TS]

02:03:50   momentum is gone at that point especially if you get a lot of emails or [TS]

02:03:53   tweets or whatever so I love it is Marcus Mendes asks if Iowa seven in [TS]

02:04:00   touch I D might be a way to seamlessly switch between Profiles in energy URL I [TS]

02:04:05   don't have time to read it but I'm guessing what he means a sort of like [TS]

02:04:08   multiple user accounts I would say touch I D maybe but not with Iowa 7 I was [TS]

02:04:14   seven is clearly still like all previous versions of violence a single user OS at [TS]

02:04:19   some point in the future could it switched to a multi users thing again [TS]

02:04:23   could it be tied to like for let's say like a school system with you know some [TS]

02:04:28   kind of cloud storage so that you know any kid could pick up any iPad in the [TS]

02:04:32   classroom and use their fingerprint to get their stuff i think im a cool yeah I [TS]

02:04:38   think sure I don't think it's an Iowa 7 thing I think that's you know in the [TS]

02:04:41   future but that's the sort of cool thing that he could could could foreshadow [TS]

02:04:47   yeah there is an interesting one [TS]

02:04:51   Daniel read I planned to use my 5s is a completely under tethered device [TS]

02:04:56   Neversink over USB pros and cons I think that's how I use my now I know what I [TS]

02:05:04   will jump in and I'm gonna say I find restoring from an iCloud backup to be a [TS]

02:05:09   pain in the ass really yeah because it seems to me like my am never quite done [TS]

02:05:14   downloading all the apps you know like first download your data but doesnt [TS]

02:05:18   download download your apps the apps then come back from the store not from [TS]

02:05:23   the backup [TS]

02:05:23   and it doesn't get them all and the student from me [TS]

02:05:26   yeah I I did do my 5s like that through when I call back up in the in the hotel [TS]

02:05:32   and there were some apps yet it didn't download I wasn't too concerned about [TS]

02:05:37   the apps because they were trying I don't even know what happened was that [TS]

02:05:42   should be downloading them from iCloud as they were purchased as well now the [TS]

02:05:46   way that it works though is your I claim this is smart in some ways where the [TS]

02:05:49   apps don't count against your back up because hey white why bother you know [TS]

02:05:53   we're not gonna take up your precious 20 gigs or whatever you've paid for iCloud [TS]

02:05:57   storage for apps because we've got him into store it's a two-step process for [TS]

02:06:01   the first step is your data which is the most important thing and then it sinks [TS]

02:06:05   absent downloads and from the store in the same thing with music that you've [TS]

02:06:09   bought with like iTunes Match it's like a separate process but it's there's [TS]

02:06:12   there's no good indication of how far along is in restoring it and just like [TS]

02:06:17   you I i get these review units while I'm traveling San Francisco and I'm stuck on [TS]

02:06:21   hotel wifi and it's it's good enough to get my data and stuff like my email [TS]

02:06:29   accounts reconfigured in mail which alone is a huge concern Venus you know [TS]

02:06:33   set up for different email accounts and type it on but to actually download the [TS]

02:06:38   apps it's sort of a pain in the ass but I you know in general if you know that's [TS]

02:06:43   mostly how I use mine the only time I ever even think about connecting my i [TS]

02:06:46   phone to USB is to back up and restore just to get all the apps quicker than i [TS]

02:06:51   can download them from iTunes yeah I don't i dont have wifi sync on anymore I [TS]

02:06:56   don't have any I i remember being excited about wi-fi sync I didn't even [TS]

02:07:01   use it anymore I don't use I obviously you know you plug it in to charge and I [TS]

02:07:07   because my computer is always with me when I'm at home it's it's very [TS]

02:07:11   convenient so I i plug it in to charge of but nothing happens in iTunes [TS]

02:07:16   you know it pops up and iTunes but it doesn't sync you know that's that's [TS]

02:07:21   awfully it it just I called all the time I don't even do anything but I am I [TS]

02:07:28   think it's you know it's certainly the future and I do you could probably I [TS]

02:07:31   think you probably do well doing it like that today [TS]

02:07:33   yeah here's a quick question from Zack Khan good question any word on white [TS]

02:07:37   airdrop only works on iOS iOS and not by OS to iOS or Mac my best guess I do not [TS]

02:07:45   have an answer but my best guess is just wait I think it will I think it's almost [TS]

02:07:51   inevitable that all work I can't imagine that they give the feature the same name [TS]

02:07:55   and not having worked together yet [TS]

02:07:56   yeah I don't know what technical problem kept them from getting it to work [TS]

02:08:01   together yet it just seems like an obvious thing i think thats about it is [TS]

02:08:09   one last question it's from Christine gamble I think this questions for you [TS]

02:08:14   why are you so perfect you know I get asked me why I think that that question [TS]

02:08:30   would probably be best asked of many can Amy Jane and I wouldn't want to be [TS]

02:08:36   around for the answer [TS]

02:08:38   never smelled all the farts in my office I'm not perfect I'm gorges but better [TS]

02:08:46   question or even better somebody else i cant members need somebody asked how [TS]

02:08:52   come you're your laugh is not one of the new ringtones is she [TS]

02:08:56   it should be a purple phone with a laugher ringtone Apple would sell fifty [TS]

02:09:04   million but now they don't know what they're doing alright Jim Dalrymple [TS]

02:09:12   thank you very much what a great show and thank you everybody out there sent [TS]

02:09:16   those questions in a lot of those were good [TS]

02:09:19   and for all the ones we missed I'll try to answer them on Twitter instead but [TS]

02:09:23   thanks thanks [TS]