The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► with this we're gonna have this exact [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► same conversation about the goddamn Mac [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► Pro whenever that gets refreshed much [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► more conversation it's not going to be a [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► new mac pro it's going to be a fancier [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► imac it'll be a short conversation [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► they'll be finding them I'll buy one [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► anyway and that'll be that I agree with [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► most what you just said except it'll be [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► a short conversation yeah Thank You [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► Marco Wow pletely agree I'll ask the [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► show or two I'm just saying it's not [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► like we're gonna be obsessing a shower [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► too it'll last a month well I guess what [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► we'll do is we'll go back to talking [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► about the mac pro and they're like okay [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► fine so they did this imac thing but now [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► let's complain more about why they [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► should actually do a real mac pro [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► remember when they used to sell a [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► professional computer 15 shows later so [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► i think we finally wrapped that up but [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► we won't be talking about the imac the [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► mac pro will be we'll take care of in [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► the shower too that's true and then and [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► then one more show when we all get ours [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► but then mostly will go back to [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► complaining about seriously you're not [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► really making the mac pro anymore [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► especially if they don't say they're not [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► making they keep selling the old one [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► that'll be awesome like hell with the [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► new imac it wa really see it it's got a [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► Z on it but they keep selling the old [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► Mac Pro would be like what are you doing [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► what is it going through your head [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► here's a question do you think on [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► january first 2018 the 2013 back / will [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► still be for sale no absolutely not I [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► vote yes I I would if I had to pick I [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► would vote no but it's not as big of a [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► it's not as sure of things I I would [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► hope it would be as I think about it I'm [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► like you wanna bet five bucks betting [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► your any money i'm guessing january [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► first 2018 it's still for sale I'll take [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► your five dollar bet yeah alright it's a [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► deal because i think it's close that's [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► why it interesting bit because i think [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► they'll because i think they'll [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► introduce and I Mac Pro and the like and [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► this is the replacement for the mac pro [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► like that's that's how I think it'll be [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► position it will finally give them cover [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► to can that stupid machine the cam began [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► so my primary bet is that is that it [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► this is still for sale the the 2013 [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► trash yet Mac Pro is still for sale on [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► John January first my secondary bet [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► which I guess i will probably won't put [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► money on but my secondary bit is that [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► during the entire year of 2017 they [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► won't actually address this issue [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► publicly they won't even say anything of [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► substance about any kind of future pro [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► heart prototype hardware [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► that basically like this this year will [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► come and go with no changes to the mac [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► pro in either the product line or in [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► announcements pop vote if they make an [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► imac proud as I count as them saying [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► something all I think only that they [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► discontinued the mac pro but what if [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► they say this is our new vision for a [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► hardware ball a lot but then also keep [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► selling it for the same reason that [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► keeps telling everything because [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► somebody somewhere was to buy it well [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► I'd still win the primary bed in that [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► case the secondary bit of whether they [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► like have done this I guess would depend [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► on like it'd be a little bit Vega be [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► like is it just like the same processor [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► lines like you know like the Intel like [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► 6700 k whatever like if it has the word [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► pro in the name like it's clear what [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► they're talking about is even but if [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► it's still pretty much an imac like it [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► would need like a Zeon like that's like [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► and not an e3 the e3 does not count as a [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► Zeon is there at eight core is there an [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► acorn on Z on until I know the in the [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► future I think tips are said a while but [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► like one of the various lakes coffee or [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► whatever one of those are supposed to be [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► a 6-core variant in the the series but [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► if there is like a quote I mac pro but [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► it still has the same consumer processor [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► line that doesn't count to me that's [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► just that's just my mac and yet because [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► the imac is fine the imac is great i'm [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► using one now like there's a lot of [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► reasons to have an imac but they can't [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► act pro on the end and sell it in space [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► gray and charge more but if it doesn't [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► have a xeon e5 in there that's that's [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► not a mac pro i will argue about it [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► later but i'm going to bed you Mac [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► brought him out that's it yep I am I am [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► tuckered out on the Mac Pro it doesn't [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► take much to be fair now it doesn't so [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► as always we start with follow-up and [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► Lucas gosen goosen guy need to look [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► these up before a record that's okay [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► though Lucas JIRA hates he cited an [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► existing app and we are not going to [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► name that app that is currently on the [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► iOS App Store that actually has [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► overlapping windows and colin allen also [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► wrote in to say that when he was working [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► at blackboard they shipped a multi [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► window ipad app with gestures now this [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► is a long time ago from what i can tell [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► so an allen's defense this you i was was [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► modern at the time looking at it now is [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► mildly alarming but there are things [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► that are multi window [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► in the on the iPad that exists either in [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► the past or today so does that change [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► how you feel about things in any way [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► shape or form John no because everyone [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► knows there's always things on the app [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► store that violate guidelines like this [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► that's the whole point of the App Store [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► guidelines if you try to say you can try [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► and did a little kid thing but why my [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► sister get to have lollipop like it's [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► just yes there are going to be [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► applications that the somehow got by [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► that didn't get flagged and yours gets [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► flagged like your argument is always [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► with with the rule system and not with [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► like people who happen to have skated by [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► I mean pick a guideline I guarantee you [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► can find multiple applications on the [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► app star the violet that guideline [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► that's just the way it is but anyway I [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► like seeing these examples of [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► applications that actually shipped in [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► this way and you know the world didn't [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► come to an end and also apparently it [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► was not a UI paradigm that was copied by [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► lots of other application so I'm not [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► quite sure how successful it was but I [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► like the idea that few of them snuck [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► through I like this better than the idea [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► then of millions of apps that send you [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► spam push notifications sneaking through [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► quote unquote mm-hmm all right and then [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► friend of the show Stephen Chow and [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► Smith has put together a swift [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► playground that will let you try the [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► floating keyboard on an iPad so you [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► would use the switch playgrounds app on [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► the on the iPad and run the code that he [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► is put on github I believe I have I [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► intended to try this and then completely [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► forgot about it but anyway you can [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► download this drop it in Swift [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► playgrounds and give it a shot have [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► either of you tried this nope and see I [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► really wish I have but it's not my mind [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► John those are they get for adding [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► anything resembling a programming [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► environment to iOS because someone's [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► like know what you can do with a [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► programming language you can write [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► programs then you know what those [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► programs do they execute on your device [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► without going app review just as if I'd [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► uploaded them from Xcode but I don't [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► have to do that because i don't have [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► xcode i just run this playgrounds file [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► and so dissolve apples worst fear is [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► coming true oh no selector Swizz lling [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► and private api's what will happen [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► nothing will happen it's the answer oh I [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► suppose you could probably you think you [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► could probably you know trigger a bug to [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► you know I guess you could crash the app [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► obviously but uh well crashing [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► playgrounds may not be such an [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► achievement [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► did you bring them could you bring down [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► the whole OS x finding some kind of bug [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► or doing something nasty to it anyway [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► that's what programming is and this is [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► this is fun way for people to try it to [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► see if this little keyboard is worth [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► anything it's kind of weird because [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► you'd want to use it with thumbs like [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► you would on a phone but you can't reach [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► it with both your thumbs on an iPad like [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► that's the whole deal that it is a tiny [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► little floating keyboard that you can [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► move where you want it to where you want [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► to put it so it can be out of the way [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► and not take up so much screen space but [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► you can't type on it with two thumbs [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► there's no maybe he put it in the corner [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► I don't know I did there's no way to use [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► it there's no way to use like you use it [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► on your far although I know a lot of [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► people myself included who frequently [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► type with a single thumb on the on their [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► phone so you ever do that where you're [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► like you're one hand is occupied and [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► you're texting something with a single [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► thumb it's I'm I'm okay added yeah I [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► wish I was there's swipe keyboards I [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► haven't used one in a while in fact I [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► just took that keyboard off my phone [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► because I use it so rarely but the swype [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► style keyboards and I think Google's [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► keyboard G board or whatever it's called [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► supports this the swype style keyboards [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► are very good for one-handed use but I [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► find that I don't use it often enough [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► that I just made it go away I think my [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► heavy have inappropriate thumb friction [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► for a swype keyboard every time I try [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► the mic and I can't find the right [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► balance of enough pressure to be swiping [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► correctly but not too much pressure that [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► I'm like scrubbing my thumb against that [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► I could just I need to tap item I'm not [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► a swiper I remember seeing demos of this [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► keyboard like wow this is awesome look [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► at that little line darting from key to [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► key but then when it comes time for my [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► big meaty thumb to do that this it's [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► it's hopeless so more priority if it [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► works for you but I cannot get the [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► swiping to work for me my word I don't [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► even know what to make about this I we [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► should just move on John can you tell us [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► about Apple and education got a lot of [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► feedback from people basically people in [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► education people who read their teachers [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► or school administrators or people who [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► do I T in education I've tried to pull a [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► few salient points out as a lot of [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► people had you know very complicated [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► detail stories about their one situation [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► but I'm trying to generalize here so one [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► theme i saw in a lot of the email was [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► the recent in recent years pushed for [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► one device per student [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► which was not a thing when any of us [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► were in school like that that not just [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► in the super rich schools but then in [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► all schools the ideal is when we're [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► going to buy any kind of computing [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► hardware for students who want to have [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► one for every single student which was [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► just not an option and you know in our [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► days because you'd have a computer lab [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► and like each classroom it out like one [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► I'm agron to imax or something like but [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► you know one computer for every student [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► that wasn't really feasible when [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► computers came with gigantic CRT's and [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► took up a huge amount of room but now [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► that they're all really small and [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► portable and cheaper and you can pull [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► that off so the one device per student [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► accounts for an increase in overall [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► volume of computing things that schools [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► by which is good for good for google in [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► this case because there there's someone [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► most of them we had one report of [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► technology getting more funding than [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► like less sexy areas like music and arts [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► which are you know parentally on a [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► perennially underfunded because tech is [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► sexy i think one of you brought this up [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► in the last show like the idea that [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► there's money to buy computery stuff [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► because everyone agrees that computers [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► are the future and our kids need [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► computers and like I mean obviously the [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► present now but when we were kids it was [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► like Oh everyone's gonna learn computers [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► because it's the future and if we get [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► computers in our school everyone feels [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► good about even though we're not [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► entirely sure if these computers make [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► education better in any possible way but [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► hey at least kids blow computers there's [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► still some of that in there and that's [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► exciting for all the kids in your school [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► to you know get iPads or get laptops or [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► anything like that and a couple of [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► people tell us that although Apple no [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► longer makes education only models like [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► the big ugly tooth and the emac the emac [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► and stuff like that they do have special [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► configurations of existing devices that [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► like you can't buy in the store but only [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► available for education and they also do [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► a thing where they continue to sell [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► devices in education even if the even [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► after they're no longer for sale to [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► consumers last time I remember them [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► doing that in a big was the ipad 2 it [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► was like gone for everybody but [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► education can still buy it so they're [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► still trying to do what they can to give [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► education there's no real nice way to [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► say this but like the cheaper crappier [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► moms because every even the education [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► only models like how are they different [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► from the regular [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► once they were cheaper which is [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► important but they were also crappier [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► because how do you get them cheaper you [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► make them crappier and it always struck [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► me as like a a weird bargain because do [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► you want to give a ram starved computer [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► to a school is a school the best [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► equipped to wrangle a computer that is [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► constantly running out of RAM especially [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► in the bad old days without it without [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► even any virtual memory on on max or [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► without a good virtual memory system [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► anyway that's less of a concern these [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► days but just two down spec so badly and [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► then put those machines into an [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► environment where the people available [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► to like baby them and coax every ounce [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► of performance out of them like it's not [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► that they don't have time for that much [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► better to give them a computer that sort [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► of works without anyone having to mess [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► with it and if UD content a computer to [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► use car parlance that's the bad [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► situation but that's what they want they [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► want it to be as cheap as possible so [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► Apple would make them very cheap models [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► and now Apple will keep selling new [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► devices long after no person should ever [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► be using them but I guess schools will I [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► mean again I look at that like the [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► laptop cart into my kids elementary [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► school filled with ice books how old are [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► those how old is that you know the white [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► plastic I book that's an old machine [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► like it was a great machine when it was [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► available and apparently it was good for [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► education because they aren't all dead [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► right I don't know how sturdy I mean I'm [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► assuming they're all like terribly [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► yellowed and stained and gross from you [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► know kids touching them because it was [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► plastic but like you know computers last [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► as long as I until they break because [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► why would you get rid of them and they [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► could just continue to try to find [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► something useful to do with them and on [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► that front by the way in terms of tech [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► funding and everything I live in a place [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► full of rich people and we have high [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► taxes and we vote ourselves we have like [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► the laws on the books say we can't raise [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► taxes more than X percent per year and [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► every year they have a vote to say if [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► you really want to raise taxes on [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► yourself vote for this and every year we [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► vote for to like to bypass the thing to [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► raise our taxes even more and despite [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► all that our public schools you go into [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► the moment and you know from the [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► standards of my own childhood they are [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► woefully underfunded in every single [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► aspect large class sizes facilities all [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► falling apart and the vast majority of [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► the computing technology that arrives in [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► the school on the year [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► basis is paid for entirely out of the [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► pocket of parents giving money to the [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► school like voluntarily themselves just [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► funding like that so that's more that [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► says more about the state of public [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► education funding in in our country than [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► it does about things in tech but it's [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► comparing it to my childhood when there [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► was like a computer lab with a small [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► number of computers and like my kids [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► experience in school where there are [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► more computers but that all of them had [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► to be bought by the rich parents of the [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► students who go to the school it [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► certainly doesn't seem like we are in an [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► age where it is accepted that schools [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► will have like one device for student [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► everyone will have at least an [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► elementary school will have computers [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► for everyone available it's like oh [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► you'll have computers if you live in a [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► place where all the parents have enough [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► disposable income to each give hundreds [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► of dollars to the school each year it's [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► the same way we got a new playground by [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► the way Oh collect money from all the [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► rich parents I'm you know we're glad to [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► do it because our kids are going there [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► we have the money we pay for it but it [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► seems like the wrong way to fund public [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► education anyway that's I'm really off [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► topic it's funny I probably have told [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► the story once before but to just [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► reiterate how terrible public education [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► is even in relatively affluent areas I [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► grew up in Fairfield County Connecticut [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► which at the time because of other areas [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► of the county was I believe the most [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► affluent County in the entire country I [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► lived in a very unremarkable part of it [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► so it it was not quite the same for for [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► me but certainly it was a fairly [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► homogeneous reality' v'lay affluent area [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► and every year probably about three [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► quarters of lady through the year our [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► copier paper or Xerox paper was [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► perforated in a very weird way and [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► curiously every single page we got said [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► danbury hospital radiology department on [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► the bottom of it and that's because the [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► only way we could have copier paper the [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► only way we could afford it is if the [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► local hospital donated it to us and it [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► was I guess their leftover that that [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► they had had perforated in a particular [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► way for their particular use but we just [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► rolled with it because what other choice [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► did we have and unlike you guys who are [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► I guess better than than we were at the [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► time we would beg to raise taxes just [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► the tiniest littlest bit to give the [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► schools little breathing room and every [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► time it was shot down and even as a kid [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► it drove me [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► I don't know Marco you're only like a [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► year away from dealing with this right [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► oh man yeah I mean kindergarten trucks [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► this fall for a kid so here we go yeah [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► have you for preschool for daycare heavy [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► as they probably not because that's like [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► privately funded but kindergarten to see [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► if this is like a nationwide thing are [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► just in certain areas I was surprised [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► when I first could enter kindergarten [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► that one of the things that teachers [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► would ask for is paper towels and [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► tissues and things like that yet seem [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► like staples of the classroom like hey [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► parents like it when I was a kid when [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► the teachers asked the parents for [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► anything it was hey parents have your [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► kids bring in some canned food for a [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► food drive for the needy right instead [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► it my experience with my own children [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► it's hey parents please bring in boxes [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► of tissues because if you don't there [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► will be no tissues in the classroom [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► because we have no money for them which [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► is like seriously like I'm these are not [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► frill that's the whole thing like oh we [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► want to buy a fancy new imac every year [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► it's like we need literal tissues for [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► kids with buggery noses in kindergarten [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► and there is no money to pay for them [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► like we can we can put a building that [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► keeps the rain out and we can keep the [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► temperature vaguely within human [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► habitable range but beyond that you know [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► you're on your own so it's time to [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► everyone to pitch in and make sure that [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► we have tissues and paper towels for [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► kids in the class yeah that's a teacher [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► still by a lot more than most people [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► know or expect teacher still by these [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► kind of supplies out of their own pocket [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► it's kind of horrible like it you know [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► teachers all know this and families of [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► teachers all know this but most people [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► don't and it's kind of sad and you know [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► cuz T it's not like teachers are paid a [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► lot to begin with so like you have these [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► jobs that are already not paid you know [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► what they're worth and then you have the [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► teachers having to buy like basic [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► supplies for their classroom out of [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► their own pockets that that seems so [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► incredibly wrong to me yeah but yeah for [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► those that don't know Aaron was a high [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► school teacher in a reasonably affluent [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► area of Richmond until she had Declan [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► and it was expected that at all grade [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► levels every single teacher and so this [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► is every high school teacher you have [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► will send home a list and there was a [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► term for it and for lightning I can't [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► remember what the name of it was but [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► they would send home a list of supplies [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► that every student was [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► to get so every student was expected to [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► bring Erin like one pack of tissues and [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► one set of like whiteboard markers [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► because we didn't have blackboards they [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► had white boards in like a handful of [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► other things and this was not unusual [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► this was expected in our schools as far [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► as I can tell are reasonably well funded [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► I mean this that's not the utter [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► disaster that is happening in many many [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► many parts of the country but even still [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► there they're so they're so big a [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► discrepancy between what teachers need [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► and what teachers can provide and what [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► the schools can provide that they would [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► have the parents bring all this stuff [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► into it was it was totally bananas but [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► it's what they had to do we are [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► sponsored this week by eero visit [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► eurocom for more info ero is the [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► solution to mediocre home Wi-Fi coverage [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► because let's face it we have so many [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► Wi-Fi devices these days you know we now [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► we have beyond our computers and phones [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► we have speakers thermostats light bulbs [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► everything all over our smart homes now [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► and Wi-Fi it just doesn't reach most of [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► your home if you only have one regular [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► router euro is designed to change all of [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► this era manufactures a single device [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► it's a small box about the size of an [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► apple TV and it serves as a wireless [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► router and with a dead simple app you [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► can put multiple eros throughout your [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► home they sell them in sets you can just [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► buy one if you want to but you're really [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► getting the BET the biggest benefit if [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► you have two or three the first one [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► replaces your existing router you just [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► plug your ethernet wiring into it from [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► your dsl modem your cable modem and [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► additional eros you just plug them in [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► for a standard power outlet and then [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► they connect wirelessly to each other to [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► form a mesh network that blankets your [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► home in fast reliable Wi-Fi a [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► distributed system like this is way [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► better than just having one router with [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► a whole bunch of antennas on top of it [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► or any kind of traditional range [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► extenders euro is actually better [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► because it creates a separate network to [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► talk to the other euro routers on which [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► is way faster and it doesn't as it [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► doesn't have nearly as much of a speed [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► hit as a typical range extender they [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► recommend one euro per roughly every [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► thousand square feet of your house so [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► the average us home you need probably [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► two or three of them [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► 3-pack is a great starting point check [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► it out today there's a 30 day money-back [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► guarantee so if you end up having too [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► many if you don't need let's say you buy [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► the 3-pack you only need to within 30 [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► days you're going to return the extra [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► one and you'll get you get part of your [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► money back euro has been reviewed and [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► seen on tons of press outlets Wall [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► Street Journal USA Today the verge [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► TechCrunch everywhere they have a [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► massively great star rating on amazon [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► right now it's like four or four and a [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► half stars and Amazon you will see for [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► yourself and they did something cool [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► here they know that if I just tell you [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► to go to their site and get into a promo [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► code there's a good chance you're gonna [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► buy it from amazon or something anyway [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► so there's no more promo code everyone [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► gets the same low prices now the three [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► pack is now a hundred dollars off [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► permanently lowered from 449 23 29 so [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► now for just four hundred bucks you get [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► a three pack of these if you only need [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► two of them that's just 300 bucks now 50 [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► bucks less than it was before to get ero [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► at this new low price you can visit [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► eurocom that's eer Oh calm or you can [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► just go to bestbuy or Amazon if you want [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► to do that too and buy them there check [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► it out today ero eer oh thank you very [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► much to ear of responsive it came out I [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► don't know at this point it was probably [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► almost a month ago may it was a couple [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► weeks ago at the very least and it's an [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► ATP bringing cutting-edge news as we [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► always do and this is at apple.com / iOS [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► / home there'll be a link in the show [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► notes and this is the home kit like demo [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► promo commercially video thing and I [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► watched it once when I first came out I [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► haven't seen it since but the general [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► gist of it was there's a young woman who [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► wakes up and in has her breakfast which [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► is all automated and leaves the house [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► which is all automated and then [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► eventually comes home which is all [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► automated and watches a movie which is [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► all automated and reads in bed which is [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► I guess reading in bed and then turns [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► off for lights which is automated and [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► it's all amazing and perfect in every [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► way and as someone who doesn't really do [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► any of the robots in a cylinder sort of [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► thing this looked pretty impressive to [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► me it looked cool I can't say that I [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► have the Fate I don't know where I would [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► even get a home kit powered thing as far [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► as I'm concerned they're still all but [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► vaporware but apparently they exist [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► because they're all in this lady's house [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► so I don't know there's been a little [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► bit of chatter [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► about this do you want to tell us about [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► a John this is a tweet from Scott [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► McNulty on twitter i'm not sure if he [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► has all these devices i know he's got a [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► million Kindles but i'm not sure if he [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► has all that stuff but anyway he's tweet [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► about it about this new website that i [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► was to promote home kit was nice website [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► but the film to show cases to me how [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► much easier it is to tell LexA to do all [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► the same things because the video shows [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► for the most part the the person [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► touching big rounded rectangles on iOS [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► devices whether they be iPads or phone [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► to do things there is hasty good morning [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► at the very beginning speaking to your [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► phone that's on your nightstand and [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► having it set your thing up for the [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► morning and also later speaking directly [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► into the tiny horrible Apple TV remote [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► to say okay it's movie time to start a [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► movie although I'm not quite sure what [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► it does if you just say it's movie time [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► does it pick a random movie anyway [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► though those are both examples of [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► speaking what I knew I shouldn't have [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► activated that thing that I just said [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► but I did activist on my phone I have [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► never had a telephone enabled until very [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► very recently and now i'm going to this [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► is all stated but that's totally stated [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► anyway why do you turn that on i turned [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► on to see if I turned it on as an aside [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► I turned it on like a week or so ago [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► because I'm like look everyone else has [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► this on on their phone and I've had it [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► all exactly the for exactly the reason [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► you would think you would have it off [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► because I never wanted to accidentally [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► activate but very freaking all this gets [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► to the point of this thing I have a [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► cylinder that listens to me in my home [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► now and I like the idea that i can just [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► say things into the air and I'm like you [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► know what maybe that kind of [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► relationship with my phone is just there [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► waiting for me and I've been too [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► stubborn by keeping this feature off [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► since it was introduced like literally [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► never turning it on never even trying it [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► because it just sounded awful to me so I [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► should really give it a chance and in [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► this week or two that I've had it on I [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► have used it consciously about once and [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► now I have triggered it accidentally [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► once that's the first time I've ever [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► accidentally triggered it because what [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► occasion do I have to say that with my [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► phone nearby but for this for this video [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► showing speaking not to the air but to a [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► device that you know is nearby whether [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► it's your remote in your hand or a phone [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► on your your nightstand is to me [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► different then just yelling into the air [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► not yelling or just speaking into the [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► air the way you do with the cylinder is [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► that all the other things that are in [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► this video and like a lot of using that [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► the home kit thing on on control center [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► the third screen over or the hell it is [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► maybe it's the second I don't know and [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► pressing those rectangles to say I'm [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► here I'm doing this I want to do that [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► change to this mode we're just fine like [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► it's good to have buttons for all this [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► stuff but like Scott McNulty says in his [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► tweet anybody who has cylinders that [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► listened to you when you talk in the air [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► like that is the killer feature to be [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► able to just stroll around and just say [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► something and have it do things whether [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► it's asking you to set a timer or asking [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► what the weather is going to be tomorrow [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► or telling it to turn lights on or off [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► or whatever phrases you enter into the [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► thing like just getting used to be able [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► to say that even for our thing like the [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► stupid stuff asking you how to spell [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► things and multiply and divide numbers [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► like or define things or say something [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► in a particular language I don't have to [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► wonder is my phone in this room will it [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► hear me from that distance will I be [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► able to hear it you know that or [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► multiple phones in the room and they all [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► have that feature whose damn i'm not [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► going to say activated on it will they [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► all wake up and start trying to answer [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► at the same time and everything like [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► that the cylinders simplify all of this [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► and so this video I kind of feel the [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► same way this video basically says hey [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► we at Apple have home automation it's [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► massively less convenient than the [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► cylinders you talk to but it exists and [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► if you like tapping buttons boys it's a [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► thing for you and I feel like they're [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► really they're really missing the boat [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► on this type of home automation and it [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► makes me think once again that as silly [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► as these little cylinders are everyone [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► who gets one ends up liking it for [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► something like they end up liking it [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► more than they thought they would [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► because it certainly seems pretty dumb [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► and even if they only use one tiny [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► corner of the functionality that tiny [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► corner functionality becomes an [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► important part of their life and that I [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► think shows a successful product so I [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► think Apple not having something like [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► this for such a long time either because [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► they're coming up with the super duper [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► awesome one's going to be way better [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► than everybody else's and cost twice as [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► much or because they just thinks it's a [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► dumb idea I think they're missing the [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► boat and this website is like a giant [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► advertisement for them missing the boat [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► yeah because like you know as more [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► people get these devices to like timing [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► to the market is kind of important here [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► there is a significant first mover [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► advantage because once you have you know [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► a couple of these cylinders in your [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► house from one of the brands that sells [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► them if Apple's comes out and is just a [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► little bit better no one's gonna buy it [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► like the only it has to be massively [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► better to get people who have already [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► bought into these systems to convert [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► over and like you know right now I I [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► have the Amazon ecosystem I have a short [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► cylinder of my office and a tall [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► cylinder in the kitchen and you know and [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► when the google home came out I you know [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► I heard what most people said about and [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► I was initially interested but then once [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► everyone once all the reviews came out [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► and basically said like yeah it's fine [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► it's just about as good as the Amazon [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► echo it's not you know massively better [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► or worse it's about the same better in [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► some ways worse than others but about [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► the same overall then I immediately lost [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► any interest in ever trying it because I [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► well you know you know I already have [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► one it's all set up I have all my all my [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► integration set up I'm habituated to [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► saying its commands and and using it to [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► control stuff in my house and play music [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► and stuff so why why would I switch if [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► the other thing is not massively better [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► and so if Apple comes out with their [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► version of the Amazon echo or Google [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► home or whatever else and it's you know [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► Syrian a can like it then it has to be [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► way way better for me to care and for [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► anyone who's bought any of these devices [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► to care and I think the chances of that [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► are just not that great seeing how [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► syriac chua Lee is and has been today in [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► the competitive landscape and and seeing [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► apples recent you know kind of accessory [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► hardware in the two hundred dollar range [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► like the Apple TV or them killing the [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► airport base stations like seeing their [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► efforts in the in this kind of area [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► recently it just doesn't fill me with [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► confidence that if they do one of these [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► things that it's going to be massively [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► better than what we already have so it's [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► probably just going to be [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► roughly the same if not worse and as you [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► said twice as expensive probably so I [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► don't really see that going anywhere i [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► think the typical apple you know the [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► pattern of sitting back and kind of [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► waiting until everyone has like version [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► 2 and then rolling out the amazing apple [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► one that might not work here i I think [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► that might just be more like what we see [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► with the Apple TV which is some people [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► buy it you know the the really devoted [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► Apple fans buy it but it doesn't have [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► mass market success because it's just [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► you know more expensive than everything [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► else but not better enough and possibly [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► even not better the one thing by all [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► accounts that Apple is doing better than [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► its competitors is security like being [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► very careful but really a partner with [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► and having very strict requirements on [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► security and privacy surely they are [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► better on privacy than Google and Amazon [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► are although there was that case where [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► was some some law enforcement agency was [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► trying to subpoena audio recordings from [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► Amazon echo or something in Amazon I [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► think this was Amazon did fight them on [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► it and said no you can't have our stuff [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► and they're trying to like get get that [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► audio classified in a way that it makes [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► it not available without a warrant and [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► all these other things right so but [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► there are a lot of security implications [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► to all these devices which at this point [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► you just have to accept that you are [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► compromising security in some way by [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► using any of these things and apple with [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► home kit seems to be trying to avoid [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► silly situations where a vendor [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► integrates with you and does something [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► extremely lacks when it comes to [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► security and you know has some obvious [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► flaw that either makes devices in your [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► houses into botnets or into spy devices [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► and stuff like that and that's good like [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► good in general with Apple tends to be [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► good on security and privacy but so far [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► consumers have shown no willingness to [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► value privacy in their purchase [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► decisions like that is not a [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► differentiating not enough of a [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► differentiating factor you know even [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► even in the phone space like Apple is is [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► very good on privacy and security with [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► its phones but I don't think that's why [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► people are buying iphones like they're [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► buying because they like iphones and [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► it's a nice to have and it's a perkin or [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► whatever but like people are voting with [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► their wallets [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► by buying you name it light bulbs [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► television cylinders that you talk to [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► with terrible security and privacy that [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► like literally intentionally spying you [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► record everything you say and doing then [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► then sell it to people and everyone's [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► like oh well with our TV works looks [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► nice you know like so it's not that [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► that's how the market is working right [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► now and what people can't do if people [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► don't value don't value it do we need to [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► change something for people to value it [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► do we need a new generation of people in [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► the aftermath of some terrible [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► privacy-related thing to deal with this [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► are we are we just happy to leave it to [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► the legal system say like well people [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► get hacked and hacking is illegal and if [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► it happens you know someone will stop [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► them someone someone but blah blah blah [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► Big Sky theory no one cares about what [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► I'm doing anyway so I'll just buy this [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► vizio tv and get spied on or whatever it [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► is now and it's true it's true of the [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► Google cylinder that i have is probably [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► true of the Amazon ones and it's you [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► know weeks we accept it for the [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► trade-offs even Marco famous paranoid [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► privacy advocate who won't put pre [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► compiled binaries into his application [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► is willing to trade a devices in his [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► house constantly recording him for the [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► convenience of saying something I was [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► like to go out at night well and to be [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► fair I'm that I'm risking my own [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► personal privacy with with that one and [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► then you know that's very different from [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► risking the privacy of my entire [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► customer base of my hat you're trading [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► your trading the thing that you can [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► trade was like it seems like a fair [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► trade to you're like well normally cares [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► about me and whatever and I get this [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► convenience and you weigh them and you [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► like well convene twins in this case [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► right you know I don't have any of these [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► devices in the house like I said earlier [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► and have only interacted with them a [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► couple of times and I don't think I get [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► it like it's neat I suppose but I don't [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► know I don't die this is like the old [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► man portion of the show and I'm [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► surprised took us this long to get here [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► but I don't really see how getting up in [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► walking a few cases to turn away so [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► terrible like and I know I know that [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► makes me know man i know that makes me [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► backwards and ridiculous i understand [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► you can't write a letter on a piece of [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► paper and wine to the mailbox is the [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► mailbox too far away you gotta have this [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► electronic messages i know i completely [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► agree with you and if the roles were [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► reversed I would be saying the exact [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► same thing to you like it [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► this I know I say this a lot and I'm [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► always wrong and so I'm sure this is [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► another time but this fills a need that [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► I don't feel like I have fast-forward to [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► six months from now gonna have probably [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► a an Amazon cylinder Google cylinder [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► maybe even an apple cylinder and I'll [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► love all of them their own special way [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► there'll be my mind my children at that [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► point but sitting here now I just [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► there's no integration there's no thing [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► that I that I can see today that makes [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► me want one of them in and I bet you [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► anything if one showed up at the house I [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► would end up loving it but it's just [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► it's even this video I watched and [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► thought well yeah that's cool but I [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► don't it's not it's solving problems I [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► don't think I have it's like any of [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► those things where you don't know you [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► have the need until you have it and it's [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► not going to be like a life-changing [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► thing like the iPhone was like you know [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► but but I feel like everyone has one [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► like we use our as less than I thought I [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► would because basically I was betting on [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► Google making their product better [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► faster than they actually are so oh well [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► better me if only you had friends who [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► told you beforehand to pick the other [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► one i don't think i would use the other [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► one anymore because i think it's [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► basically a wash at this point but [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► anyway apparently here's here's yeah you [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► know because it does it is really good [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► at the things that it does do but [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► eventually once you realize these things [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► are there and start to get into the [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► mindset what was it like we're sitting [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► down ours is it within earshot when we [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► sit down to dinner and we're sitting [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► about dinner trying to think of talking [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► about some songs someone heard and [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► because i subscribed to google play [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► music another reason by the way that i [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► wouldn't want an apple one is that i [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► would it would make me have to subscribe [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► to Apple music to do what I'm about to [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► describe we're having some discussion [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► about a song and I can just say into the [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► air I can just request into the air for [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► that song to be played almost any song [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► that could be played and it just starts [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► playing it because we were having a [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► discussion of what the lyrics for and [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► how it sounds and the kids wanted to [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► hear it and you know what has to get up [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► from the table or pull out their phone [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► and try to search for the song I just [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► say something into the air before you [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► even get your phone out of your pocket [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► and the song is playing and that is a [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► weird future world thing that I think is [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► awesome and it is it a big deal and is [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► it a need no it's not but for the [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► hundred and ten dollars or whatever I [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► pay for the stupid cylinder to be able [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► to say words into the air and have a [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► song that I requested play immediately I [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► think that's like worth the price of [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► entry even if I only do that once every [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► week and a half and the rest of time my [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► kids are just asking how to say things [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► in foreign languages like this is all [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► this is all bonus now it's not again not [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► a life-changing thing but once you get [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► used to the idea that something is [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► constantly singing your house and can [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► conceivably do things that you find [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► useful it's hard to go back to the idea [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► that nothing is listening and you have [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► to actually pick something up and hit it [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► with your fingers because there is a big [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► difference in how it feels to do [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► something it's kind of like difference [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► in how it feels to pull out your phone [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► and look something up versus how it feel [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► to get in your car and drive to the [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► library and look something up and now [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► this is you know it's interesting it's [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► like you know I it's an exponential type [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► thing where like obviously library on is [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► way longer than the looking on the phone [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► but now like how much how much longer is [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► saying something into the air to your [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► phone it's probably a couple seconds [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► couple minute but man feels it feels so [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► different and you just can't go back to [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► the other way and if you wanted to go [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► home full home automation everything and [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► cook stuff up to it and do all stuff [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► like that that feel like you're starting [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► to get into tech gadget land at that [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► point but but that can be awesome too [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► especially if it's like a hobby to have [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► a house where you can just say things [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► and have it do stuff and work with your [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► rhythms there's I think these devices [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► can be enjoyed at many levels and as we [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► said last time we discussed this most [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► importantly they're all freaking cheap [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► in the grand scheme of things like [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► they're not three dollars but they're [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► also not two thousand dollars like a new [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► macbook right you can get one of these [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► you can buy all of these you can put [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► them up what is the dot one what is the [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► short sale under marcos like it's like [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► 40 bucks is 40 bucks yeah it's really [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► cheap you can get one of these things [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► you know on a whim just to see if you [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► might like it and throw it somewhere and [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► if you never use it you're like oh well [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► it's forty dollars it's like a nice meal [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► for one person like whatever you know to [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► answer your earlier question case like [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► you know you don't see what you know why [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► it would be a big deal to have faster [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► light switches or something the answer [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► is that there's there's like one thing [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► that gets most owners in the door and [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► four for most people i've talked to and [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► been around and seen be converted [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► including myself that one thing is music [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► you know [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► with John said like it really isn't [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► awesome to be able to just say Alexa [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► play fish and have that just work for [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► all of our lives on purpose in terrible [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► terrible troll not the first time that [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► or you know and you can say you know hey [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► cylinder play rock music from the 90's [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► or like there are it's just really [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► really nice to have that like there's a [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► reason why like places like Sonos or [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► having trouble now like anything that is [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► involved in the high-end audio scene for [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► tech geeks that is not voice controlled [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► as having problems right now because [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► it's once once you get into voice [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► control music it is so awesome [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► especially like when you know if you're [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► having like friends over for dinner or [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► something else and you just have it [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► playing and you can just anybody can [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► just say you know next song or pause or [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► volume up whatever else and our people [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► can call out their own request like it's [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► fun it becomes a cool a pretty cool [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► thing the the echo is not a great [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► speaker it's only an okay speaker [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► literally like in my house it is sitting [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► right next to a sonos speaker that is [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► way way better sounding and the sonos [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► speaker almost never gets used anymore [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► because it is just so much more [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► convenient to use the echo for music [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► purposes and so anyway you know what [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► gets someone in is usually one cool [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► thing that they like see or hear about [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► and they're like oh my god I want it for [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► that but then once you already have the [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► cylinder in your house and set up and [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► everything then when you know Black [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► Friday comes around and the switchable [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► out let's go on sale for like twenty [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► bucks you're like hey let me try one of [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► those you know and then and then we'll [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► ever need any try one really go that's [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► that ends up like there's that one lamp [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► it's the total other side of the room [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► and i turn it off every night and I ever [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► not have to walk over there and turn it [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► off and what if I didn't have to walk [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► over there I'd save like five seconds a [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► night and that could add up and then [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► next time they're on sale you get three [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► or four more of them because you realize [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► how useful they are and then all of a [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► sudden you can say I'll turn off [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► everything and all of your lights turn [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► off and when you're going up to bed and [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► you have a glass of water in one hand [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► and maybe some laundry or a dog in the [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► other hand and you don't have any hands [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► to hit all the light switches before you [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► go upstairs you can just say hey turn [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► off everything and five things turn off [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► at once and you could walk upstairs and [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► it becomes pretty cool and so it's that [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► how you get into this it's it is not [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► that you can't walk over and hit a light [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► switch but once you have one of these [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► technologies for some other reason like [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► music then it's and you know as all the [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► like you know home automation things [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► just start getting really cheaper you [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► know like that you can you can go on [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► going at these switch box for twenty [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► bucks whatever or you can have other [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► integration through web services through [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► like if 210 various services like that [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► and you know warm up your car or you can [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► you Casey you have your garage door [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► thing you can like open and close your [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► garage door by voice like once you are [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► in the system for some other compelling [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► reason like music you will start having [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► these other things trickle in and you'll [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► be like wait a minute this is kind of [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► awesome and none of its necessary like [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► you could operate your house without [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► these things but once you get into that [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► once you have have a taste of this it's [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► just really nice again it's not it's not [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► a must-have we can all send post with [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► send letters to the post office if we [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► want to but once you have something [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► nicer it is pretty great yeah it's funny [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► you bring up but both you bring up the [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► music thing because when i tried apple [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► music during the free trial when it [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► first came out the one thing I I deeply [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► missed about Apple music was being able [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► to say to siri you know play MuteMath or [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► whatever the case may be and and just [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► have it happen and that was super cool [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► and it was almost enough to get me to [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► pay for Apple music rather than Spotify [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► which I prefer for reasons that are [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► irrelevant but all the other things that [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► I preferred about spot if I were enough [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► to keep me away away from Apple music [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► and and I guess that's the difference is [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► with the garage door opener as an [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► example I immediately understood why [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► having an internet-connected garage door [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► opener could immediately improve or [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► improve may be a strong word but but I [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► can't think of a better one improved my [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► life where is the cylinders I don't [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► doubt that they would make things better [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► in all the ways you described but [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► there's less of a visceral tangible need [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► that I can see sitting here now and I'm [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► sure the time will come that I will get [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► one and i'm sure i'll be on this show [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► saying by god what was i thinking of [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► course I wanted this but sitting here [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► now ignorant [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► is less wow you know it does take it [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► does take some time to actually figure [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► out what do you think is going to be [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► good for after you just play with it and [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► find the limits of the thing and I think [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► it really it really a situation like [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► it's not it's not as if you have to like [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► every day I'm going to do this thing and [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► I'm going to use this thing to do the [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► thing like getting a new like device [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► into your life and incorporating into [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► subtasks you have to do like for me that [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► that's not how I experience of having [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► this thing it's more like developing and [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► awareness that this thing is there so [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► that when the need comes up that you [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► reflexively satisfy in other ways [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► eventually you come to remember I don't [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► have to do that I can just say this [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► question into the air and get an answer [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► even if it's like dividing two numbers [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► or converting like teaspoons into cups [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► or whatever like all those things are [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► things I've done my whole life and I go [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► I don't remember the convergence let me [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► check or whatever and you can always [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► like pick up your phone or ask someone [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► in the house you think knows the [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► conversion or you know all these other [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► the ways you have to solve this problem [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► eventually what the most important thing [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► you need to have is it you know a deep [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► grain instinctive awareness that I can [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► say this thing into the air and get an [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► answer right and that's the hardest part [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► because you will find yourself pulling [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► out your phone and typing into Google [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► you know how many teaspoons in a cup and [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► you'll do that and maybe do that without [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► even realizing you could have just asked [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► that question but eventually it sinks in [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► it sinks in after some incidents of like [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► arguing about the lyrics to the song [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► over dinner and realizing we can settle [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► this in 30 seconds I could just request [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► that song by title it will immediately [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► start playing or we can all listen to it [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► together right or not remembering who [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► you know what year someone was born or [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► who what album this thing was on or what [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► it like we could all take out her phones [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► look it up we all know how to do that [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► it's like you could do that or you could [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► just like put a little trigger phrase [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► that I'm not going to say in front of [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► that same question you were just asking [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► each other and instantly get some kind [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► of answer and it can go too far where [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► you know we have the recent rash of the [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► Google what is it the Google answer [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► thing where it tries to answer the [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► question definitively the top of search [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► results and it just throws on bogus [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► stuff that has no foundation and truth [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► right and all these devices again there [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► are security concerns and priorities [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► urns and I [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► thing but it is a glimpse of the as yet [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► unperfect it unrealized future and like [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► all gadget tech geeks we all like to [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► sort of see what that future is going to [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► be like and try living it even if it is [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► pretty rough at this point just because [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► we think there's value in it and [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► whatever form it takes in the future I [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► think this type of renter face has [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► proved it's worth that it has to be part [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► of the various ways we interact with [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► technology and networks right all the [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► other ones have proved their worth and [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► they're not going to go away and be [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► completely replace with this but this I [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► feel like has definitively proved it's [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► worth it's just a question of how it [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► fits in with all the other ways that we [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► you know use computing devices and [TS]

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00:47:27 ◼   ► channels from Viacom including big names [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► like Comedy Central and MTV it also [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► won't have programming from Turner which [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► means you won't get CNN TBS TNT AMC [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► discovery and AME but this as someone [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► who is not really looking to cut the [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► cord this does sound pretty compelling [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► to me I don't really have a good feel [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► for what the landscape is for cord [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► cutters because I'm not even really [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► considering it at the moment but this [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► sounds really good Marco I know you're [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► not really that into broadcast TV but I [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► believe you've cut the cord so are you [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► interested in this at all yeah I mean I [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► the last time I had cable was about 10 [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► years ago and I don't say this to like [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► to super bragging the hipster way [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► possible just a fact I've you know since [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► then I've gotten into the habit of just [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► not having these TV channels I do get [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► and buy TV content in other ways like I [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► like through itunes and stuff although [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► honestly I cannot leave Apple TV [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► purchasing fast enough like as as Top [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► Chef wrapped up one more season I still [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► can't believe how bad buying TV series [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► on apple TV is and then watching them [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► and all the different things that don't [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► work or that work poorly or that [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► actually spoil the show like the [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► auto-generated thumbnails of the Last [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► Chance kitchen but you know I've kind of [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► gotten into the world now of not having [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► cable and so to to buy access to all [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► these channels to me [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► doesn't really sound that appealing [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► because I I kind of don't need them [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► anymore or I've trained myself not to [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► have them anymore so the idea of buying [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► access to all these things so I can like [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► watch broadcast TV and sports not [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► although with a bunch of asterisks and [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► stuff like that it is advertising a a [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► collection of services that I have gone [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► without for 10 years that i have already [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► like I I this is not something i really [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► am that excited about for myself i do [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► think it is it is a good idea for people [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► who have been maintaining a cable [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► subscription all this time for one of [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► these things or for multiple these [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► things like lots of people you know have [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► like for example sports fans like most a [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► lot of sports fan or people who just [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► like to watch like live news or we like [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► to watch some shows that are one more [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► than one of these networks that just [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► aren't available easily or affordably [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► elsewhere online at least legally so for [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► those people this is a great this is you [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► know a good good idea it seems like a [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► pretty reasonable price this at 35 bucks [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► a month for all this stuff now i'm [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► curious what what form does this take is [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► it is it like just a TV stream and [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► therefore we have to like skip [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► commercials and crap or is it more like [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► on-demand where you just pick what you [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► want to watch and there's no commercials [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► i'm not sure the way i read this was [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► it's that it would basically exist [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► within YouTube but I could have that [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► dreadfully wrong I'm not entirely sure [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► it's like they may they make mention of [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► things like a DVR style of recording [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► with unlimited storage space in Google's [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► cloud and the ability to skip over ads [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► so the kind of sounds like it's more [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► like watching a broadcast and you just [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► you know it's kind of like with a [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► broadcast with DVR style controls but [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► you'd still have to like fast-forward [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► through the ads so it's kind of weird to [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► see youtube as the company sort of I [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► don't know if they're very first out of [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► the gate but one of the first of the big [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► names to do what everyone's been [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► referring to was a this is the skinny [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► bundle thing where it's a subset of the [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► stuff that you can buy in cable with the [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► idea that people who pay for cable [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► nobody wants all those channels like [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► everyone just wants a subset of it so if [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► we could sell you a subset of it for a [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► cheaper price then that would be a more [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► desirable product for you and we could [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► get you on down [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► platform and stop you paying for cable [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► or stop you bang forget stop you paying [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► for television programming for cable [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► because once again the whole cord cutter [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► thing makes about as much sense as [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► debating which parts of a game engine [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► are done in software and hardware [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► doesn't really mean anything when you [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► look at the phrasing because oh I'm [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► cutting the cord I'm going to get all my [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► video content over a cable it comes to [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► my house the delivers data but doesn't [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► count because his internet and not cable [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► television and all its you know totally [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► different thing anyway Comcast would [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► still sell you your internet access or [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► verizon or whoever sell your internet [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► access but you just like no thanks I [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► don't want to pay for your cable [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► television bundle I just want the [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► Internet I'll pay you for that and then [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► over the Internet I will get things like [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► YouTube TV but anyway it's ironic that [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► YouTube is doing it because as far as my [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► children are concerned YouTube is [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► television then they barely watch [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► television anymore they watch youtube on [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► their iOS devices because that's what [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► they have if they didn't they were [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► watching anything else television like I [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► don't think they know what ABC CBS fox [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► and NBC are I don't think they recognize [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► those sequence of three letters if we [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► put them in sequence and say what are [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► these three letters they would not be [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► able to identify they have no idea like [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► they watch they watch enough television [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► they sure I've seen enough television [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► shows in their life but their entire [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► enterprise of television a is through my [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► tivo so there is no again trying to [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► trying to explain to them or young [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► children the concept of live television [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► is extremely difficult the mud that the [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► task of modern parenting right to [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► explain to your eggs your toddler what [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► live television is and why you can't [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► like fast-forward or pause or anything [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► like that like no this is happening now [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► this is live like or we can't watch this [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► because it hasn't aired yet like it's [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► going to come on at seven it's like what [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► are you even saying that I don't [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► understand like I don't understand these [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► words at your like and that they've I [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► know dad let me explain it to you you [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► just go like this and you tap over here [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► and but just why isn't it working i [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► think it's broken like no it hasn't [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► hasn't aired yet it's difficult thing to [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► explain right so youtube it seems has [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► the future locked up and yet they are [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► the ones out of the gate to say we're [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► going to try to get the old by giving [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► them something that makes them feel more [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► comfortable and you pay us thirty-five [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► dollars a month [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► we will resell you this content with a [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► nice kind of interface that makes it [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► look like you have a tivo but you don't [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► and you know some some fashion of on [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► demand type stuff and also with the you [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► know ad-skipping and so on and so forth [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► but like all these deals like the reason [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► it has always been said that Apple [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► hasn't had this deal as it has it had a [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► deal like this despite them pursuing it [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► for many years now is they could never [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► they can never get no presumably [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► according to Apple satisfaction an [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► arrangement of content in price that [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► they did Apple like that Apple said yes [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► that's what we want to go to market with [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► so they've come to market with nothing [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► and all these things if you look at them [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► it's like oh well you got all this stuff [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► we don't have all that stuff is that is [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► this the right price and the combination [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► of content like if you got this and [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► you'll be like I'm going to replace [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► cable and then you just realize like [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► that I'm trying to think of a show it's [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► on AMC like madmen used to be what son [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► AMC now the Americans is the Americans [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► FX anyway if if you get this and you're [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► like this will be just like cable we can [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► just pick the channels we want but you [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► realize you can't get some of these [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► things at any price Oh The Walking Dead [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► is an AMC better call Saul you realize [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► you can't get them at any price that [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► could be a deal breaker if you know it's [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► like well I guess we'll just stick with [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► cable because cable despite the fact [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► that cable is making you pay like you [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► know three dollars a month for ESPN that [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► you never watch it over the hell the [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► number is these days you have access to [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► everything essentially those cables and [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► mature industry and everything is resold [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► through cable subscriptions and if [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► you're willing to pay enough money you [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► can get everything to get a skinny [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► bundle I okay well I'll skinny bundle [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► for this and then I will just pay on [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► itunes for the walking dead the day [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► after it comes out or I'll watch Game of [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► Thrones on HBO Go or now and hope that [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► doesn't get overwhelmed by people and [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► like that's the other thing with these [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► skinny bundles you can be really sad if [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► Game of Thrones premiers and you can't [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► watch it because of some networking [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► thing whereas if you had cable it would [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► have quote-unquote just worked right [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► because it's broadcast versus you know [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► database television which has all the [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► problems of any you know database [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► solution so I don't know if they're [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► striking the right balance and honestly [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► I think YouTube shouldn't care that much [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► of the striking the right balance [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► because they sure as heck seem to be the [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► future of television as far as any of my [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► children are concerned and honestly I'm [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► watching more YouTube then [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► used to like this thing here you know [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► like as in subscribing to channels and [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► looking for content to come on them so [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► they I think this is a good move for you [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► to bits like we are already at the [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► forefront of this new thing and you know [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► we can scrape up some of those old [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► things and they're not so picky about oh [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► we can't we can't go to market with a [TS]