The Accidental Tech Podcast

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00:00:05 ◼   ► hey everybody hello this is wild a [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► little bit but this is a lot of people [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► but that's cool [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► so thanks everyone for coming this is [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► super awesome and thank you again to the [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► allcomp people for making this all [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► happen this is really really great and [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► we don't really have an agenda here [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► because this is the accidentals have [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► podcast so I think you had something you [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► wanted to discuss with the group I [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► decide format no it's like doors how [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► many people in this room regularly [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► listen to the live stream that's yeah [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► well anyway if you listen to the live [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► stream and for everyone else you listen [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► to the download of podcast it's edited [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► and during the live stream we just do a [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► bunch of stuff and then Marco turns it [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► into a show and so we're gonna do a [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► bunch of stuff here including I'm voting [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► listen to Marco do an edit reads live [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► which is always fun but I have a format [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► question for all three of us which I [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► didn't mention before but like at some [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► point during this show during this [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► recording Marco is gonna hit a button [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► that's gonna play our theme song what [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► happens after that so I was like this [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► has been like I've been kind of [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► postponing like thinking about this Mike [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► had a good idea of why don't we have the [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► audience sing the theme song along [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► this is exactly the kind of thing that [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► would be totally way too mortifying for [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► the three of us to do but there's a [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► whole room of people here who might feel [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► differently so I think that's how we [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► should solve all right but after the [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► song and then what happens we talk about [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► cars and we keep talking right but today [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► today do they file out while we talk [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► about cars hi everybody [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► we'll figure it out when we get there [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► that's that's the other question I'm [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► afraid to ask that's what I'm going to [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► now how many people know what happens on [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► the podcast [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► after the themes that's most anybody not [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► raising their hand people don't know [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► what happens all right I gotta have that [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► for reuse I just thought I'm getting at [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► is I don't know how we're gonna end this [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► podcast like literally I don't know how [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► we're gonna end it because we just kind [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► of tail off and the actual regarding [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► anyway well this is all pre-show what [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► you're hearing now this is called [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► pre-show and this is the stuff that we [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► do while we're trying to figure out what [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► I'm gonna record anyway I think I got [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► that amazes me how many more pre-show [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► stuff let's get on with the show [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► [Applause] [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► you know for for an accidental tech [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► podcast we don't mess around around [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► these parts so I spent a lot of money [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► today I just thought I'd let everyone [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► starting with that you're already off [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► track that's all alone this is how it [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► works this is what we do John is all [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► right go ahead you can see you can have [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► your moment yeah I bought I bought a [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► MacBook adorable and I'm really excited [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► about that [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► so finally the MacBook adorable has been [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► updated I am very stoked and and I'm [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► really excited for to arrive and like [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► three freakin weeks because I went all [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► in and got the super fancy one [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► humblebrag not so humble brag whatever [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► and I'm really excited that that [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► happened and that's really all I care [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► about and oh yeah iPad stuff happened [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► and we can I guess we're done I love [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► that you you are the old like it's like [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► you ever see the pictures of the [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► highways when a place is being evacuated [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► for a hurricane and you see like there's [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► like all the people going one direction [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► and there's one car going the other way [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► like this is the entire rest of universe [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► right now I was like oh my god I've had [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► productivity this is the future they [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► basically made it the Mack asterisk [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► asterisk so we're going there and you're [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► like yeah you know what this is the [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► perfect time to stop using my iPad I [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► know this is great finally we're at [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► Lawrence Federico I don't know where he [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► is but I'm so sorry buddy all right I [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► think hey I don't think this is going to [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► put a damper on his day [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► no no you're right I don't think that's [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► possible all right so we got to get the [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► show on the road I should stop [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► distracting everyone so so today is the [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► first day of wEDC the keynote was just a [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► few hours ago [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► I don't know when Marco will get the [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► chance to release this as a proper [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► version of the app or a proper version [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► of the show tonight I'm dedicated oh [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► that's intense well I'm not staying up [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► that late but I don't ever get involved [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► with that anyway because I'm a big diva [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► anyhow the the guinot was today the Kino [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► was today and it was quick like they set [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► a really high bar for us getting through [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► this show quickly which is something [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► that the three of us are entirely [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► incapable of doing now so this is going [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► to be a little bit interesting well this [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► is going to be like a John Godfather [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► situation where like the commentary it's [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► probably gonna bear was Goodfellas [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► Godfather [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► of course yeah yeah but this is this [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► keynote was like a speedrun like at [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► first Kevin Lynch was up there and he [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► was he was going fast I thought maybe [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► because he was nervous but everybody [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► went really fast because they had so [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► much stuff and we're I guess we're gonna [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► go through it in keynote order which [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► means like the exciting things are at [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► the end because they save them to the [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► end so we have a bunch of on exciting [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► things in the beginning so TV OS so I [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► have a question was the OS or any part [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► of the OS actually mentioned or actually [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► changed because a content deal is not [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► the OS as far as I can tell the OS ng [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► usually watch State of the Union and [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► state again they showed one slide that [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► showed that they had some new things for [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► helping I don't know we had a bunch of [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► icons that maybe think they added some [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► more navigation stuff but anyway nothing [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► new in TV that we care about right the [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► funny thing is back six months ago [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► before I knew that the Grand Tour was a [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► pile of garbage I would have been super [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► amped to have Amazon Prime video on the [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► Apple TV and as it turns his oh man [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► wanna castle this good shows an Amazon [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► yeah well either way all I cared about [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► was the Grand Tour and now it's just a [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► disaster so I mean I'm excited I guess [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► this is perhaps the dam breaking which [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► is really exciting but I don't know I TB [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► OS man so let's move on [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► watch OS what's a nice right and there [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► wasn't that much more there there was a [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► little bit of new stuff and watch OS I [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► think it's interesting you know like I [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► was kind of predicting that this would [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► be like a kind of a quiet year for those [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► two and then mostly panda most of other [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► predictions were horrendously wrong but [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► this one I think I actually got Siri [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► everywhere I thought you were on the [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► right track cuz they're like oh the Siri [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► watchface we really are gonna see Syria [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► everywhere so the watch family okay the [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► watch is computer it like you can make [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► it be anything you can make it show [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► anything you can give it the [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► intelligence to say I don't always want [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► to have set at the bottom if I [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► occasionally want a timer down there but [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► when a timer is running I want it to be [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► on screen and so they have this [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► potential since day one of the watch to [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► be like we can we can make it smart it's [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► a Smart Watch so we can only show stuff [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► that you need to care about at that [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► moment but it's mostly been unreal eyes [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► on the watch faces they've been very [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► pretty much static like you could make [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► multiple ones now you know with three [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► but but the the complications you would [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► set up would be pretty much fixed and it [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► wasn't actually being very smart about [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► that so now they make a face where they [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► actually make something smart but it's [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► only on that face like you can't just [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► put a like smart complication as like [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► the big bottom one in like you know some [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► of the other phases I like that like why [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► it's a good step to get smarter but why [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► is it only on that one kind of [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► interesting Lee design phase yeah I [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► thought when they were showing that [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► segment it's like oh you're gonna be [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► able to like swipe your complications or [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► make like a make your own smart face [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► with different times a day but no you're [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► right it is all one face and all see [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► refocus that doesn't even look like a [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► watch and I don't know I mean I maybe [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► it's just a start to this I for a brief [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► moment I thought they're gonna say [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► they're probably watch faces yes sir bye [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► I thought of it for like eight seconds [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► there was a little glimmer of hope at [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► the beginning there yeah yeah I thought [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► your worlds were gonna collide Marco [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► where you have watches and you could [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► make your own face and you can make it [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► as fancy as you wanted you know because [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► your watch is not very smart I don't [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► know if for those who aren't here he's [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► wearing a proper mechanical watch so [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► yours is not a very intelligent it's a [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► feature watch it's a face yeah but it's [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► you know I I do want the watch to take [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► advantage of the fact that it's a [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► computer and and they clearly they now [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► are considering things like the [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► intelligence of the face by making this [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► eerie face it's more dynamic with what [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► it's showing you but they didn't take it [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► far enough so maybe in the future they [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► will I hope they do it did a lot of [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► workout stuff like because I'm thinking [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► that recognising the watch is mostly a [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► fitness related things like a lot of [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► rumors for workouts of you know getting [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► rid of frustrations in terms of like I [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► want to up on my own little the workout [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► but I want to pause the music and stuff [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► like that so those those seem like smart [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► focus features I got the lap swimming in [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► the pool you know that's that's pretty [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► esoteric and the grand scheme of things [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► I like the they had said that they were [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► gonna do like monthly based reminders or [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► something like that like hey if you are [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► near the end of the month and if you you [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► know move the next three you hit your [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► move goal the next three days you will [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► get your move goal for the whole month [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► and and I think that's kind of neat [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► because I pay some amount of attention [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► to my rings and you know not all of us [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► are just innately a blue ring stud like [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► me so so for you guys I'm sure that this [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► is pretty important for your blue rings [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► but but I thought that was really cool [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► and I think that a lot of these things [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► were typical evolutionary improvements [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► but as always with Apple mostly with [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► Apple they were not revolutionary [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► watch me look good and it was it was [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► early on Makino so they didn't talk [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► about all of the things that annoy like [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► if you if you wipe your watcher on [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► parrot you lose all your data and [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► sometimes you stand every hour during a [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► day but it doesn't give you your stand [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► ring because it doesn't like you like I [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► was bought a mulligan hmm I'm Mulligan a [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► feature where it would be like oh come [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► on I get one Mulligan per day and I [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► could say I totally stood that hour [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► anyway that's its next year for watch OS [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► 5 I guess I also have a small concern [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► with the activity reminders that you [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► know right now when you get a watch on [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► default settings there is increasingly [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► more health and fitness type things that [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► it bugs you about every so often and I [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► wonder if they if they push that too far [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► like they had to breathe last year and [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► every if they push that too far people [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► will turn those off and I feel like [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► they're they're really on the edge of [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► that right now well it's to some degree [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► it's all about the way the person [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► perceives it right because to you it's [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► frustrating and annoying and especially [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► with breathe I agree with you but [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► otherwise I think that most of these [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► reminders are kind of nice and I'd like [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► to try to get reminded from something [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► external to myself hey get off your lazy [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► butt and move a little bit you've been [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► writing code for the last six hours [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► maybe you should go I don't know get a [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► drink of water or something and so for [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► me I actually think it's really cool [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► again with the breathe accepted because [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► I don't dig that at all I'm brave during [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► the keynote day did you stand at 50 [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► minutes exactly no not good not so much [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► all right so anything else on watch nope [TS]

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00:11:09 ◼   ► then once again when you buy make sure [TS]

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00:11:13 ◼   ► very much to Squarespace make your next [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► move with a beautiful website from [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► Squarespace nailed it [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► well done sir that's how that's how you [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► do I've done this a few times what so [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► for those that don't listen to the live [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► broadcast when Marco used to do the [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► reads during the live broadcast it was a [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► train wreck it was not a train wreck but [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► it wasn't bad [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► there were occasional derailments that [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► of a minor variety so are there really [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► minor train drill anyway so right [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► speaking of de railing trains hi Sierra [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► what is that I mean come on I mean we'll [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► get to this later but D what do you [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► think is the worst name hi Sierra [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► or home pod oh hi Sierra I think this I [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► think they're both fine I thought [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► they're gonna call it Sierra Nevada but [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► High Sierra is fine that's the thing I'm [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► okay see didn't know it was a thing [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► either but it is it is a place anything [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► and it wasn't there a high sierra like [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► volume format or like cd-rom standard [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► this is where you are the live chat room [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► and someone nobody know oh people some [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► kind of it is some kind of like cd-rom [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► like Mount Rainier kind of standard yeah [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► yeah hi Sierra so anyway I thought the [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► dad jokes leading up to it like I'm a [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► sucker for a good dad jokes I was fine [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► whatever but then I was expecting Craig [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► to be like oh haha no really no it's [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► called something else and that never [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► happened it took me about a minute [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► before I realized it wasn't a joke yeah [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► exactly I really thought that they that [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► Craig's me oh I'm so funny I'm such a [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► good guy and really it's called like you [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► know Yosemite plus-plus or whatever [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► anyways and and so as it turns out [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► they're they're rolling with the high [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► sierra and like um that's on the surface [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► i thought the the loose drug references [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► were kind of funny as like a gag but [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► when you're introducing the new version [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► of your OS with all of these drug [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► references and are like no really this [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► is it that just i don't know that's a [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► little weird to me but the OS looks good [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► so there's that yeah this kind of we can [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► playing about like they keep having to [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► revise mac OS every year and we've like [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► you should slow down the pace [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► slowing down the pace they'll have a [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► marketing release this year but the [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► number of features they're adding I mean [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► this could practically be a point [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► release you know like this not doesn't [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► look like there's a lot of new stuff in [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► it or the very least not a lot of stuff [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► through stuff they talked about [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► obviously a PFS which is [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► the most important feature of the [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► operating system as we all know they [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► didn't go into detail on it but they did [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► do the one like demo that you can do [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► with it with the the file cloning which [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► is not really that impressive if you [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► understand what's going on under the [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► conference about whatever they know like [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► they didn't finish what they didn't show [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► basically was is a PFS faster than HFS+ [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► like if you do some big operation to a [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► lot of files either just using straight [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► POSIX API Zoar in your app is it [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► actually faster than a trust maybe it's [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► not or maybe it's a wash but if you're [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► taking advantage of features that only [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► API has have IPS has obviously it's [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► going to look good so that was fine you [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► didn't you didn't might not watch the [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► State of the Union Marko but because [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► you're busy getting ready over here but [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► there was a kind of a sad note about Mac [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► OS Sierra and 32-bit app support scary [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► sad note because I think of how many [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► 32-bit apps I have my Mac I have a lot [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► and I bet everybody has a lot and unlike [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► iOS apps [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► I have little hope that if 32-bit [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► support goes away that all those app [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► developers they are even still [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► developing those apps in B will update [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► them all to 64-bit version so they said [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► so 32-bit app support is not going away [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► in high sierra but in the one after that [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► probably we're gonna yell at you if you [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► try to launch it like we're wishy-washy [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► about it but bottom line is 32-bit apps [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► are not long for this world in Mac OS in [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► the next year or two but hold on that [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► was that just the App Store because I [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► don't remember that's the that's the OS [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► my impression is that that's the OS we [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► just came from the State of the Union so [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► we didn't have time we'll leave on the [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► audience are nodding that means them [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► right there and their wording was like [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► it this will be the last release we're [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► like you can do it like without big [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► problems right so maybe they'll do some [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► kind of like virtualization layer thing [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► or like an emulation like Rosetta like [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► later on down below to say you know this [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► app may make your Mac slower like they [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► do in iOS you know when you're a 32-bit [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► eyes engages in like all 32-bit [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► libraries to actually run the ad oh yeah [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► I'm guessing they'll have some kind of [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► like patchwork solution because it [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► wouldn't be that hard for them to do it [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► like they already have all the libraries [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► enough so they could do like a VM kind [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► of like emulation mode for those apps [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► and just yell at you with a dialog boxes [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► telling you that your computer's not [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► performing very well you know we skip [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► Safari and I don't mean I don't think [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► there's a lot to say about it but I'm [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► super excited about the changes they've [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► made I mean autoplay video blocking that [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► awesome how long do you think I'll take [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► be able to defeat that well can we at [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► least be positive firm alright fine come [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► on man but no that's exciting I figured [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► what else was in Safari but but look [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► it's faster it's really fast it's always [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► fast every Lea that did the the [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► intelligent tracking prevention which [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► sounds like some kind of algorithm to [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► detect whether to block third party [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► cookies on ads which is pretty cool by [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► default that's that's nice like it's [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► it's kind of like a half ad blocker step [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► maybe they would also block things or [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► the more invisible kind of trackers that [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► you don't necessarily you know see you [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► know there's kind of the massive three [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► megabytes of includes that most of these [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► websites have now so maybe this is kind [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► of them building in an ad blocker by [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► default like as a baby step and they [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► probably would never go out and say [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► we're blocking all your ads so the [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► people might sue them but this is [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► something like well you are browser just [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► decides not to load your JavaScript [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► sometimes like they might be loading [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► them I think they're just trying to make [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► you less trackable I guess I'm about to [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► go to the sessions about this week [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► they're randomizing identifiable [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► information I don't think they're [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► randomizing your user agent string but [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► they could be randomizing some stuff [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► that people use to pin you down like [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► exposing the whatever API is they use to [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► get like I don't they can get your [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► battery level like they do on the phone [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► or whatever but like making you appear [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► to be a different phone when you are so [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► they're not blocking the ads they [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► emphasize that but they don't want [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► people to get mad at them but they're [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► just making you less trackable which is [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► just good I don't know if it's on iOS [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► too but I would assume so the other [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► thing only other thing I want to talk [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► about in Mac OS I don't want to talk [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► about the photo stuff because I don't [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► think there was that much there we need [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► to move on maybe we'll circle back to it [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► but the part where they talk about [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► graphics and like oh this is it they're [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► going to upgrade the OpenGL support and [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► they're gonna have a Vulcan is gonna be [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► awesome and you know NVIDIA GPUs are [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► going to be in the new Mac Pro next year [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► and but no no so they're they're [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► doubling down on a doubling down on [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► metal which is good it's their thing [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► it's fine but I think by them talking so [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► heavily about metal is kind of them [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► saying we're never gonna do Vulcan like [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► we're we're just doing metal and that's [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► our thing and if you don't because they [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► got they got bench and support they got [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► unity and unreal and like so they don't [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► I think they're not hurting from the [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► lack of open sore but just fine I [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► suppose [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► I'll take what I can get but that was [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► one fake out in the Mac OS section for [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► me yeah I will briefly say though [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► because there wasn't that much to talk [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► about with photos this is pretty fast [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► they added syncing of the metadata stuff [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► that's awesome that's what is awesome [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► huge glaring hole from last year as you [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► mentioned last week that was the one big [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► hole in the feature set that they needed [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► to plug so that way our devices aren't [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► hot for like the first two days after we [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► got a new one or restore it like that's [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► a huge thing that was my last night now [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► he's not when it downloads I'm gonna [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► tell it sinks the the data [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► so yeah syncing is good and you won't [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► have to recompute it but you will have [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► to pull it down [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► hopefully the progress bar we're pulling [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► down will be better and related to that [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► and we don't have a separate section for [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► iCloud but it's worth talking about here [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► on one of the slides or the thing it [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► said like family storage plans for [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► iCloud storage yeah which is one tiny [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► step closer to family photo libraries [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► because if we have family storage like a [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► family plan on a cell phone thing we pay [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► for a certain amount for the whole [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► family and you share it in some way [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► that's a great place to put a family [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► photo library not this year [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► mail got some improvements that's pretty [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► good I actually think mail app is fine [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► don't throw tomato I these I mean it's [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► fine for me it works I'm not a super [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► productivity guru that needs whatever [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► the fancy mail app of the minute is like [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► like a lot of you guys probably are just [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► more than one mail app after your fancy [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► yeah that's true so yeah so oh just long [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► ago given up on ever be able to search [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► my mail on iOS [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► well I'm supposedly that's getting [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► better it's gonna take up a lot less [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► space etc etc not an iOS yeah well [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► that's true um and then there's this new [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► HEV C codec which is h.265 that's kind [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► of cool oh yeah it's nice that they're [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► trying to they're bringing support down [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► like hardware support to some things [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► some existing hardware but if not have [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► software support so that'll that'll [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► really help and then converting [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► everything internal like anything that [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► they make will use their you know that [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► the h.265 and their new image container [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► format everything that's all really [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► smart and will make everybody happy and [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► then the beginnings of your good day [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► they said that you can use external GPUs [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► so you can play games and do whatever [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► things you need this ridiculous GPU for [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► with an external GPU so that's exciting [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► right yeah like it was like I was like a [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► dev kids they were giving you that was a [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► huge surprise like that that the first [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► bit of new hardware Apple announced was [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► an external GPS so here's what I want to [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► see for them for a real commitment this [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► is like oh you know this will let you [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► use higher powered GPUs on your laptops [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► and turn it into kind of the [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► Pro that we're not yet introducing right [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► but are they going to ship a product I [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► want official Apple support the thing [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► that I can plug a GPU into I don't [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► purchase like oh it's a third party [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► opportunity here's a driver I hope that [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► company doesn't go out of business like [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► if they're really committed to it I want [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► to see an Apple branded in style box [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► that you put GPUs in the official [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► support this is just the beginning this [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► is a dev kit so we don't know we don't [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► know what their product story is there I [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► hope they have a product story and not [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► just a know you can come because they [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► couldn't even when they left it to third [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► parties that could even get monitors [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► right with the LG thing I don't want [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► them to leave external GPU to third [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► parties and just you know good luck that [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► seems like an orphan thing but yeah [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► that's you have the ability to do with [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► Thunderbolt people are already doing it [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► with hacks right this is not doing an [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► official Apple sport is is great and [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► step in the right direction [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► well then VR was was spoken about well [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► that's kind of cool and yes sir [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► knowledgeable mostly the headset they [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► have with a little Denson it was that [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► the the HTC vive yeah well I would they [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► didn't didn't announce the vive can make [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► fun of me for Mom and you save Eve its [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► announced on Bozell I don't know I don't [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► know I don't have one but that's what [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► the picture they use for the graphics [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► with the logos removed they didn't [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► announce like oculus or HTC supporting [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► Apple stuff they did announce like [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► entrance support and steam VR support [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► but they didn't have like a hardware VR [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► story it's good they have a VR story now [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► instead of like no VR is just not a [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► thing but it's not as if they came out [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► and said all the major VR hardware and [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► software vendors are supporting us in VR [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► as the future they seem much more [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► heavily into AR but still it is it is a [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► big step for them to acknowledge that VR [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► is a thing and to acknowledge that maybe [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► people who create content in the world [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► might want to create content for VR [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► sometime so maybe we should ship some [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► computers with some big GPUs in them [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► yeah or at least better G because I [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► don't know enough about the the Radeon [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► line to know if these are like the super [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► top-end being on the current [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► architecture is a nice change right and [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► yeah yeah who'da thunk it you'll see [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► Helena keeps up yeah they're not I'm not [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► gonna update the back again for another [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► two years it'll be fine [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► yeah all right so then we started [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► talking about hardware but yeah there's [TS]

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00:23:30 ◼   ► so we we got some IMAX that's exciting [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► they've got fancy new displays which is [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► cool they're on kb lake gentlemen I feel [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► like there should be some sort of [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► excitement about this I'm surprised the [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► room isn't a rug this is not a demand [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► I'm surprised the room isn't erupting in [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► thunderous applause [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► it really wasn't it - man okay [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► I'm not that desperate good god guys I [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► feel like isn't that much better I mean [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► it's nice but it's but it's it's more [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► modern yeah it's not today so leaving [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► aside the real star of the show as far [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► as the three of us are concerned [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► I thought the IMAX look good I mean it's [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► an improvement the displays are better [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► they're faster more RAM all these good [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► things I like the fact that they kept [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► the USBA ports on the back because this [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► is like finally you have us be seeing [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► Thunderbolt summit but they didn't [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► remove all the a ports because all that [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► would mean is even more dongles hanging [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► out the back of your IMAX at places [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► where you can't reach them and that like [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► the weight of the dongle makes them bend [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► down and everything so I I'm glad that [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► they did that and they kept the SD card [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► slot they were like no the future is not [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► SD cards we got to remove it you know [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► they didn't add anything but they didn't [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► take away anything either so this is a [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► very very pragmatic iMac update and at [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► least I'm differentiating the line in a [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► way that they don't with the portables [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► that like this the larger and bigger and [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► more complicated the computer the more [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► you care about legacy ports unless we're [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► going to try to like make it even [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► thinner and remove all the ports and [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► just tell you you shouldn't stick SD [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► cards if you want an SD card reader just [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► by a USB C hub and then put the USBC [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► cable into then put a card reader into [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► that with your adapter and your dongle [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► then it's like just give me the slot to [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► put in the back so I I like those IMAX [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► they look pretty good the screen stuff [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► would did they say the standard IMAX [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► have better brightness and everything - [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► yeah and 10-bit color tube not is tenth [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► they said temp it did the ring which I [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► don't yeah right it makes me think that [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► the screen is still not capable of abut [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► that they're gonna be there to get the [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► different color things I don't know what [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► that means well maybe yeah that's worth [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► clarifying you're looking to end it [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► didn't say anything about image [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► retention Marcus I don't know whoops [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► yeah and then there still some some [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► spinning platter bottles some tea well [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► yeah but they're all fusion like they [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► did they no they're not the base model [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► 21 inch is still a 5400 rpm it really [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► did you confirm is they made a big point [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► of it that the fusion was standard on [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► all models they were very careful to say [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► that all 27 is configure oh let's have [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► you know I don't think they should have [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► fusion drives and they should be SSD [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► everywhere I explained but anybody's [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► mind why me an option if you want like a [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► ton of space but it should not like [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► that's a crutch like their they should [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► not be using that and we don't know I [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► don't know yet a fusion drives or [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► supporter with a BFS like I don't know [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► how that works [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► that's like both for conversion which [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► wasn't mentioned at all and also if you [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► by one of these things like a year from [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► now and it comes to the fusion drive is [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► the spinning disk part of it a PFS does [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► it make a difference I don't know I'm [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► shocked that they did not take the ten [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► seconds in their committee and talk [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► about it to talk about file system [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► conversion and that's that's a scary and [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► important step that everybody has to go [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► through so I talked about oh my word [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► let me talk about the birds in position [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► the new iMacs that they bump the GPUs [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► they give better GPUs and all across the [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► line which is a lot of their GPU talking [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► their graphics talk is acknowledging a [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► weakness in their entire product line [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► that their GPUs are not great they're [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► kind of middle of the road and it hurts [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► them and so I don't know if you need [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► them for the VR stuff but it's just it's [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► just embarrassing when they're like [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► fancy games that everybody else is [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► playing that are available for the Mac [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► on Steam but people don't want to play [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► them or can't play them or the frame [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► rates are terrible it doesn't look good [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► so I'm glad they are making progress in [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► that area and I didn't look at the [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► pricing I think jacking up the prices [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► compared to the current models based on [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► having a better Jo I'd be enhancing yeah [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► I mean they have a place to jack up the [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► prices and that's oh sure it was this [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► was this where they did the demo of the [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► VR stuff with with Star Wars and ILM and [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► all that I believe so yeah because it [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► struck me as I was watching this like if [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► you think of everyone on stage they all [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► had like prompters and and had people [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► around them and you preserve ibly they [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► were able to see like kind of cues of [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► what they were supposed to talk about [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► next this this poor woman I don't [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► remember call her name I think I did [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► write it down somewhere of akkad knows [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► where it was anyway she had to have [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► goggles on and just do all of this from [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► memory I can barely remember my own name [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► half she ducked under growth fairies [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► lightsaber that wasn't there it was that [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► was a that was a hell of a demo it was [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► it was intense like I'm serious that was [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► super impressive because everyone else [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► at least can look at a monitor remind [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► themselves what they're supposed to he [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► goes oh no it's ILM they're good at this [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► island doesn't do live shows in front of [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► an audience they hey they do [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► post-production they have all the time [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► in the world so they they must have [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► burst that like crazy and that was that [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► was impressed obviously wasn't a game [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► that you can play but it was a very cool [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► demo that was super cool so was I Mac [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► Pro next well next day they did a quick [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► MacBooks update but butch we pretty much [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► already covered I mean you're welcome [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► did see this is what's nice about the [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► MacBook update to cable a kit like first [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► of all they did all of them but [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► you know but actually even the MacBook [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► Air yeah with a megahertz bumpit same [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► screen the same everything we increase [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► the clock speed yeah but if it went to [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► sky like that's gonna be a big battery [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► boost in the MacBook Air but it what's [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► nice about the knife about the MacBook [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► update is that they did it you know [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► cabling came out not that long ago you [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► know they're shipping these products on [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► time basically and they're doing it all [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► and it's not that big of a deal they [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► didn't they didn't like hold everything [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► back until this winter when the I Mac [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► Pro launches or whatever they're not [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► like artificially delaying things I [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► didn't hold it back until I could get 32 [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► gigs of RAM in either they just said [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► like we're gonna write and do the [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► updates we can do now and everyone [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► that's right like that like it's really [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► nice that we're that this is the first [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► step in a potential return to regular [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► updates on a healthy schedule for the [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► entire Mac lineup this is step one of [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► that we'll see if they can maintain that [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► over time that would be nice I hope they [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► do but this is the distant indication [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► that they're at least on that path right [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► now and that I'm really glad to see ya [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► was it gray and Mike that we're talking [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► about you know I want to see like a line [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► here yeah I don't want to see just one [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► point where oh yeah they updated great [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► think that was me but it's not it was [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► also you I'm the way excuse me everyone [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► my mistake but but the point is still [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► fair right regardless of who made it the [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► point is that you can start to draw a [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► line here and say okay updates are [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► happening with some amount of regularity [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► which is a great sign now we'll see if [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► that stays true for iPad stuff which [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► we'll get to in a minute but I mean this [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► is still a step in the pot in the right [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► direction which is good well it kind of [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► makes me dread when they change the [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► cases again because maybe we can start [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► attributing the the delay to that like [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► oh they update them fine when it's all [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► in the same case but then there's like [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► this big update where they're like touch [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► bar and the new form factors in the [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► MacBook one I hope the next time they [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► change the form factors there isn't a [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► weird gap again yeah well next speaking [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► of weird gaps they kind of addressed the [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► Mac Pro need temporarily with the iMac [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► pro which we all knew was a thing that [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► was coming - ever since that briefing [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► they had but for me it was always a big [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► question mark of like what will the iMac [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► pro have that the Mac Pro doesn't and [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► and what would the iMac Pro have that [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► the regular iMac doesn't like where they [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► feel this you know how do they balance [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► that and how [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► they maintain a reason for those other [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► two ends of the scale to exist and I [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► still have just as many questions now [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► because what they ended up he's gone we [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► saw it in the hands-on area [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► it's space gray oh my god can we just [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► talk about how hot that thing looks that [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► thing looks amaze it was dark in the [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► room I I wish it wish it was matte black [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► but I guess they gotta save the matte [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► black for the pro ID by the way I'm the [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► iMac Pro let's think of an alternate [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► universe an alternate universe exists [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► where the iMac pro was there going to be [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► their story for pro Mac hardware like [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► that's when this project was conceived [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► the iMac Pro was conceived there was no [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► plan for the Mac Pro that they've now [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► promised us right so think about that [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► think about imagine a world where Apple [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► announces this and they never had the [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► Mac Roundtable and we all look at this [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► and it's cool and everything but I think [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► people would still be super angry [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► because this is not oh I know two people [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► though like you believe them the people [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► who want pro max I mean some people are [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► still saying this Pro Mac is not exactly [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► what they want but for a top-end iMac I [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► think it's awesome because now we know [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► the other one is coming so this doesn't [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► need to be all things to all people it [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► needs to be and and that's why it has [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► these these guts in them that are so [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► high-end like 18 core Xeon and 128 gigs [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► of GCC ramesses because this was that [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► going to be the Mac Pro story so your [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► questions I guess are probably like how [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► did they get all that stuff in there is [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► it gonna melt how loud is it gonna be as [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► are those these are questions yeah so my [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► biggest question like the answer like [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► one where they put it on the spectrum is [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► they put a Mac Pro in the on that case [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► like they put Xeon CPUs workstation [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► class graphics we think you know high [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► ram ceiling ECC Ram big a big throughput [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► it has dual Thunderbolt controllers so [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► it's like 10 city Ethernet although all [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► the highest of the high end features are [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► in there in this little skinny package [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► of the one by the way the one on the in [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► the hands-on area like it was it was a [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► prototype so I couldn't tell like what [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► the noise levels are gonna be but they [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► had the fans set to max just you know so [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► it's not it's not representative Harbor [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► but it was so loud in that room I [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► couldn't tell but definitely there was [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► more airflow coming to that thing that [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► you were to expect but otherwise it just [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► it just looks like an iMac it just looks [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► like an iMac it doesn't didn't look any [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► thicker to me no in fact it's the exact [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► same dimensions according to their [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► website it said without adding a [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► millimeter we had all this power because [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► yeah but it was not just like an iMac [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► did you see how good that thing looked [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► like I want [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► I don't just want the space great I do I [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► do I just really have the Magic Trackpad [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► - the Magic Trackpad also comes in space [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► grip and the mouse they all come down [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► space great and the keyboard is now [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► Wireless with a number pad a combination [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► that has never just did you had that's [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► super awesome and I asked I asked the [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► person that was doing like the kind of [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► demo ten seconds after I asked them [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► didn't I wasn't there I walked up right [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► after John and I was like so what [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► switches are these exactly and he said [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► it's exactly like the current magic [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► keyboard which we can all agree is the [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► best keyboard that has ever existed good [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► talk all right so no it really does all [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► kitties I looks great the the fan output [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► like I put my hand behind the exhaust [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► vent which is in the back [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► unlike the IMAX that we have today if I [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► recall correctly that was moving a lot [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► of air and admittedly like John said it [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► was loud in there admittedly we only had [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► but 30 seconds or whatever in front of [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► it but it did not sound terribly loud to [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► me at all [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► and it was moving a stunning amount of [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► air for what looked to be a little tiny [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► area that what that the vent was taking [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► it's gonna be heating up the foot [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► because like it's blowing back on the [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► little l-shaped foot thingy and so that [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► foot is gonna get hot and like the act [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► as a radiator and slowly warmth like if [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► you put a piece of chocolate on the top [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► part of that foot was going melt into a [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► puddle it's kind of interesting we were [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► not to touch it by the way although I [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► did immediately grab the mouse but I [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► basically on my hand slapped we aren't [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► allowed to touch it is just for them to [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► look at the only other thing that we [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► asked was relevant is it does have [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► socketed RAM that you could see in like [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► the diagram when they showed it in the [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► keynote but there is not user [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► upgradeable there is no door you are not [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► supposed to reach in there and so it's [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► not all soldered to the board but does [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► matter you still can't upgrade it so or [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► with as much RAM as your can afford [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► after you mortgage your house to buy one [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► of these things yeah so speaking of when [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► would it start at five grades starts [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► starts at five thousand which is not but [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► you know fad yeah like if you configure [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► a Mac Pro with eight cores and one [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► terabyte which is what that base to [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► figure Asian is and 32 gigs of ram [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► that's actually not that ridiculous plus [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► the screen yeah that's a good you get a [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► free screen with it which is nice yeah [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► like that's how I can do that like you [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► know right now today having not look too [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► far into it yet I consider that pretty [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► reasonable so is sitting here now we [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► where you guys I should say we cuz I [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► don't I'm not gonna get one of these [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► despite have we talked neither what it [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► is no but [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► I'm curious actually are you guys going [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► to get one of these because in a lot of [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► ways on the surface it will obviously [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► mark away but I still have to ask the [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► question I was gonna get two of them [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► let's be let's failure he's gonna get [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► two of these that's probably true [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► but you know it this does seem to solve [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► a lot of problems and so on the one side [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► I'm really excited about this for you [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► guys especially that it solves a lot of [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► problems and it seems like this is the [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► way of the future but at the same time [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► we had that roundtable where they said [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► no really the way the future is the new [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► Mac Pro that'll come sometime between [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► now and 2030 so this is the marshmallow [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► experiment what's the name of that one [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► whole thing yeah like you offer the kid [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► we can have one marshmallow now if you [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► wait 30 seconds to get of two [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► marshmallows the kids like one [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► marshmallow now so if you can wait until [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► next year or the year after or sometime [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► after that you can get a Mac Pro which [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► is going to be probably super awesome [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► just like this is because they're [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► clearly they're showing their their [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► willingness to put the best of the best [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► stuff inside a Mac they've done it here [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► as best they could in this little skinny [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► thing and in the Big Mac Pro it's gonna [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► be even you know so if you can wait for [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► that you will get it if you can't wait [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► you can plunk down your life savings on [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► this thing and so so is that what you're [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► gonna do are you gonna plunk down your [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► life savings on this now if my like I [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► would love to have one of these I would [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► love to replace my Mac with it it looks [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► like a great computer but I bet all of [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► the Mac Pro even more so I just keep [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► using my I want to go for it I'm gonna [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► go for a decade so if I can just keep [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► using my computer from euros point you [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► might as well wait I don't know if if [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► we're to having this podcast in 2019 I [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► still have no computer I swear I'm gonna [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► go back in time and buy an imac fro [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► right now i bet both of those things [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► will be true I bet that is hacker know [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► any like the big question for me which [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► is probably what you're thinking of also [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► is like well you're you're already seven [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► I Pro for like you know shape and [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► political reasons but like political [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► reasons but I'm thinking like what is [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► left for the Mac Pro to do and if you [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► like if you look at this like this [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► really is a lot of Mac Pro type Hardware [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► in an iMac case like what why should the [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► Mac Pro still exist with this and I like [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► him up the handful of reasons like my [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► big one was if you want multiple CPUs or [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► GPUs yeah so you know if it [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► it will presumably a new Mac Pro would [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► have to support either dual GPU at least [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► dual GPU sockets and maybe dual CPU [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► sockets that because otherwise again [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► like wow this thing exists and then of [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► course you know maybe they'd have a kind [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► of a fundable controller like a third [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► one to make more bandwidth total for [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► external connections and stuff maybe [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► they're gonna have some kind of 8k story [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► with arrow-display' 2 to 10 gig Ethernet [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► ports yeah and and the big thing also [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► would be presumably quieter and all [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► reliance and reliability just plain [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► reliability and modularity like what [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► you're looking for is yeah we was always [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► quieter and it's it doesn't get stressed [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► as much but if for pro hardware you want [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► it to just be super reliable you don't [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► want to be in the edge of the thermal [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► envelope like I kept thinking of the [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► thermal corner thing creds daily we [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► paint herself into a thermal corner with [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► the old Mac Pro I look at that that I'm [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► Mac Pro that looks like a hell of a [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► thermal corner like I don't know I don't [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► know how much Headroom you have in that [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► thing but there it's like 500 watt power [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► supply and that's a lot of energy to you [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► know the waste heat to get out of that [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► system the Mac Pro should have Headroom [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► it should be the type of thing that you [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► can stick either under a desk or on a [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► desk or whoever is going to be in some [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► editing Bay and leave it there and it [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► will just be rock-solid reliable and [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► quiet ish and that that's that's the [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► role and of course it'll be even more [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► expensive and hopefully also cooler [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► looking like if they're saving matte [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► black for something use it in the Mac [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► Pro yeah I mean I think it's I actually [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► am a little bit concerned like why is [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► this iMac not shipping now is this like [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► because they don't get the CPUs in [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► volume or the GPUs custom partly Maya [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► but I think it was always going to ship [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► like here's the thing about this WC they [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► announced a lot of thing a lot more [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► things than usual that are not shipping [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► so it's kind of like the old thing was [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► like we're going to tell you things that [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► are shipping in the near future are now [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► and if there's stuff later we can always [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► have another event about revised [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► whatever's but they just announced [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► everything that they have for this year [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► it seemed like an ounce almost [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► everything now even if it's not shipping [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► until December so it makes for a better [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► keynote I think we all day makes her [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► better keynote to show the iMac pro now [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► then are they really told us it's coming [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► than to wait until December and they're [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► going to miss the holiday season with it [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► to like it's just it's better they I [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► think they learn from the Mac Pro think [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► it's better to let people know what [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► coming and show it to them and get them [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► excited about it and it's not you know [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► when it releases everyone will buy it [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► and it'll be fine there's no reason they [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► need to have an October event to reveal [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► the iMac Pro so I'm happy they not [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► everyone will be buying it apparently [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► but I'm with you in principle I think to [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► answer your question mark I think what [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► about user replaceable stuff like having [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► real RAM that yeah Rhys are replaceable [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► I think to me in addition to what you [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► were saying especially about cooling I [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► think the advantage would be user [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► replaceable Ram user replaceable of [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► storage and user replaceable perhaps [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► graphics card or something like that I [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► think that's where a true Mac Pro would [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► shine and then for people who don't buy [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► computers and keep them for a decade [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► then you can get the iMac Pro but if you [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► like to have computers that are as old [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► as children then you can get a Mac Pro [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► yeah that seems reasonable all right so [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► what else what else in the hard way that [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► was it for the hardware at this point [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► right and we dumped weed we jumped right [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► into iOS 11 yeah right into messages [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► yeah because whoo yeah another I I did [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► lose the bet that message apps wouldn't [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► be mentioned at all but not by much [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► message apps were slightly mentioned and [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► I'm sure there were some minor [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► improvements to them but for the most [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► part I think it's kind of like on this [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► scale of watch OS and TV OS hold more [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► than TV I mean everything's more than TV [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► but kind of on the same scale watch it [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► was of like minor improvements here and [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► there but we didn't like for for this [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► brand new app store and an app type that [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► launched only a year ago we heard fairly [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► little about it and I think that's a [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► little bit concerning for people who [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► were making iMessage apps or who thought [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► that I was going to be they did their a [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► dogfooding it added Apple pay as an [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► iMessage app but but I think this is [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► what's the most important and messages [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► released ever because it's finally going [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► to work in theory the way that everyone [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► think that message app should work which [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► is if you send a bunch of messages on [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► one device and then you go to another [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► device the conversation you just had on [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► the other device is there that with the [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► iCloud sinking of the message I don't [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► know how they're doing that preserving [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► the privacy because the old answer was [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► like oh we can't do that because it send [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► encrypted and we can't send those [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► messages elsewhere but I just want and I [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► hope they're like actually chronological [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► and not whatever order they're in now so [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► if they do that successfully [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► of a time ordered series of back and [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► forth sub text messages between people [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► that is the same on all my devices this [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► will be the most important messages up [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► to never you know it's funny because I [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► am not being I am NOT trying to joke [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► right now but when they were talking [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► about how everything syncs across [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► devices I was genuinely confused because [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► that's kind of that's pretty much the [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► behavior I see with our messages unica i [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► was just about to say it stole my joke [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► that i am a guide must be an iMessage [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► unicorn because almost always i mean [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► there are definitely hiccups from time [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► to time but almost always that is what [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► happens today and i was really surprised [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► to see yeah I just had it when I got off [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► the plane I sent a text message to [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► somebody and then their text messages [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► for when I was flying came in below the [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► message I just sent because even though [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► they were like four hours old I want [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► that to go away I want it to just work [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► normally there's probably also a good [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► security white paper to read about how [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► the heck they did this while also [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► maintaining all their end-to-end [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► encryption stuff oh yeah I don't know it [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► seems like I would be willing to [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► sacrifice the encryption just to get the [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► messages inside because it's so [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► frustrating to not see your [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► conversations to be the same in both [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► places you know another thing that was [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► that was a little weird I have a [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► complaint for the Apple AV people that I [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► would like to air in front of everyone [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► if you're in the back of the room or [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► toward the back of the room the screen [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► that that the presenters are presenting [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► in front of it goes all the way to the [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► floor of the stage like this logo behind [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► it yeah the kind of like the logo - [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► right so it goes to the floor of the [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► stage which means anything that's [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► happening on the bottom like quarter of [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► the screen unless you're in the first 10 [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► or 15 rows you have no frickin clue what [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► is I got like the prices like they with [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► the prices and stuff in the Box all you [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► can see is the back of people's heads [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► and then everyone's craning their necks [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► it wasn't a great setup but though [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► they'll fix that next year well this is [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► why it's always been and I maybe we just [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► made a poor choice a little bit higher [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► in mosque on in Presidio the screen is a [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► little bit higher they're like hanging [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► her from the ceiling in Presidio there [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► was never a problem well no they're out [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► of the front screen the front front of [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► the room oh yeah I forget it [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► alright so iOS 11 it had messages [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► improvements I am really stoked about [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► the peer-to-peer Apple pay I don't know [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► how much that's going to blow up but [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► like a lot of my family and friends use [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► iPhones and so for that it'll be super [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► simple I'm curious to see what the [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► extract [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► from Apple pay kind of workflow is you [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► know how clunky is it to get it into [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► your bank do you have to just associate [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► a debit card and then that's just magic [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► and I think that'll be fine [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► yeah by me I'm just curious to see [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► they're competing what they're competing [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► with like Dwolla and square and other [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► companies that have a similar experience [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► so that I don't think they're gonna be [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► worse but it is kind of fragmented the [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► payment equals system now because I'm a [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► guess I've already was fragment if you [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► try to send somebody money you have to [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► go through this little dance first you [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► have square two used wall you're willing [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► to sign it but account for any of these [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► now it's gonna like the Levin though you [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► know yeah do you have Apple pay work it [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► out I mean if you go to this conference [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► next year everyone will be giving each [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► other money for meals on Apple pay so [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► that'll work out fine it'll be pretty [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► nice so series still a thing it is more [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► and more things over time there's new [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► voices which are good translation which [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► does look super cool but what I'm a [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► little concerned with is so I can say in [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► some arbitrary other language you know [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► hey where is the bathroom [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► but what happens when they reply like do [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► I wait wait wait hold on there after [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► that on the App Store right that'll take [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► their text to take their speech and [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► translate it for I guess probably they [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► parted me by Google but like white like [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► yeah that's a good point when I saw the [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► feature oh my god that'll be great for [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► travel I didn't even think about what I [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► do with the response problem like it's [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► I'm not sure I hand on the phone and [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► have them hold the button down right and [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► record their response and then I mean [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► I'm not trying to rain on the parade I'm [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► really not like it's an amazing feature [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► and I'm sure it's gonna be super cool [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► but if it's only one-way communication [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► it only takes you but so far it only [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► takes you one way and that's well we are [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► Americans traveling to places that don't [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► speak English so it is kind of our style [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► to just yell at people not accept not [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► have any kind of transport that is a [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► fair point but there's there's not I [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► don't recall that seeing very much [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► sirikit for you dude was right you were [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► that's really for people to pause on [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► that slide that had all the new and yes [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► on the red did you ever get that info [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► yeah I did there's nothing but there's I [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► mean and this was this is actually a big [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► disappointment for me that that there [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► was no like Siri KITT expansion into [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► audio type services so that I could use [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► her for overcast and people can either [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► for things like Spotify and everything [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► and I think you know last year when when [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► this was not present the theory we came [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► up with was well it's probably because [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► they just didn't get to it but it might [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► to protect and enhance Apple music [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► because that's giving up music a big [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► advantage in in Syria and have an [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► integration that will drive [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► subscriptions to Apple music over the [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► competitors so this year what as another [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► year goes by and it's not there [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► I still think those are the two [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► explanations but just like the rate like [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► the probability shifted a little bit [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► where like they might have still just [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► not gotten to it the thing is they added [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► the list was not very long so maybe they [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► just didn't get to it yet because it is [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► a big job you do to have some kind of [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► way to like you know index the content [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► of the audio service so that they know [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► even what - how to parse things to know [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► what people are talking about so I have [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► to have some kind of you know indexing [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► extension for them to index all the [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► shows and overcast for like in the whole [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► online service and things like that so [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► that is a lot for them to build there's [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► parts of it there already but that's a [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► lot that's a lot to build so maybe they [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► just didn't get to it but they are also [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► are still a really you know Apple music [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► is still in a pretty good place now [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► because it has Siri integration and [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► nothing else does and as they go into [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► things like the home pod it's going to [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► have you know similar effect of like [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► well if you want to use extreme music [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► with this new speaker that you want to [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► buy from Apple you can only use app [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► music with it basically so that is I [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► think again they might have just not [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► gotten to it yet but it as more time [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► goes on that they don't add this fairly [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► obvious feature that a lot of people [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► want I think the answer is going to be [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► much more likely to just be yeah they [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► just want to have that app music only [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► butBut what intense did they add like [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► they might just be doing in priority [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► order obviously your priority is audio [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► but maybe they're doing like the most [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► they think like the most common ones the [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► ones that have the most apps the most [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► users and they're working their way down [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► the list getting to audio eventually [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► right and that's again it's like that's [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► it depends on how long they go before [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► they before it happens like how you how [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► you evaluate this they didn't honestly [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► they didn't add as much as I thought [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► they would this year I thought there [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► would be a large expansion of Sirikit [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► intents and there really wasn't there [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► were like three or four of them and they [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► were you know fairly basic type things [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► so my whole prediction of this being [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► like an all Syria heavy keynote was [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► mostly wrong because they really it [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► really was not as much about Ceres I [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► expected you're right about one thing [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► though like I was totally expecting them [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► especially with the home pod business I [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► was expecting them to say Siri is [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► massively improved like we have made [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► Siri so much better it's smarter and [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► like just call it Siri - or we're like [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► really promoting the idea that Siri it [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► doesn't do things that are silly is it [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► currently does but they didn't and your [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► thigh remember like last week you were [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► like I don't think they're good you know [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► it's gonna be the same old Siri and [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► aside from new capabilities like [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► obviously a whole new vocabulary we're [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► talking about music to work with the [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► Apple music thing right boys right but [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► what about all the other things that we [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► currently ask like before the show [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► people were sharing screenshots of them [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► asking when it when is the the keynote [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► when is the Apple event so on and so [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► forth and I think someone said I was in [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► Italy patel said when is the the the [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► Apple Keynote and it said you know June [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► 5th or whatever like what time does it [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► start and said you and fifth and other [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► people said oh you just got to ask it [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► the right way [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► when is the Apple event and it gave all [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► the info down to the time right and then [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► people followed up that with the exact [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► same text asking the Siri the same [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► question Siri going I don't know right [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► and so nothing in here that says we have [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► massively improved Siri they have [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► expanded Siri to be able to do more [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► things by extending its vocabulary [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► adding a few intents and putting it at [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► home pod but it seems like it's the same [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► old Siri they seem to be happy with [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► series understanding of things and I [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► really I really think they need to I [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► mean obviously you can do the marketing [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► push without the tech but I hope they [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► need to improve the tech I would love to [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► have a conversation with Siri I would [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► love to go back and forth to be able to [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► correct Syria to have it learn to have [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► it just just darn be smarter yeah and [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► also to be more reliable to end to be [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► more consistent that's the one thing [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► where you know we'll get to do with home [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► pod later but like they that like that's [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► what area where Siri has always been a [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► little behind competitor just [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► reliability and consistency in the [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► responses and and you know I think [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► getting it right every time that's why [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► people have to supposed to screenshots [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► because as soon as someone has a [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► comeback like oh I asked it and got the [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► thing right someone does immediately [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► file I asked the exact same question and [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► how and we're sitting next to each other [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► in a room it's not like we're in [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► different countries like what very [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► frustrating so make it makes you want to [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► use it less we'll get to that with the [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► home pod stuff we talk about that but we [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► talked about with the cylinders if it [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► doesn't do what you want you stop asking [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► it that question because it's not worth [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► your time and potential [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► self-consciousness to talk to your [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► device and have it come back to you in a [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► way that is not satisfactory to say oh [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► I'm not going through that again so this [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► year was the year of iPads and it was [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► the year of codex because not only is [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► there a TVC like [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► about earlier which is going to be used [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► for iPhone caption videos but hey is [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► what they call you that's what it was [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► now that that's replacing JPEG [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► apparently which aiming of itself like [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► that sounds good especially if you know [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► it's better in every measurable way but [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► it needs to be adopted everywhere like [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► JPEG is and I presume over time it will [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► and they made mention the State of the [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► Union that it's like an ISO standard or [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► something like that it's not it's not [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► the Apple proprietary thing is people [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► worrying it's not something they [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► invented and and I think they had a good [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► story about compatibility like that yeah [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► we're using this internally it takes up [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► the big selling point which they [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► emphasize a little bit is your phone [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► won't fill with videos and photos as [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► fast because they'll be smaller and also [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► by the way they'll be like nicer quality [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► and at the same time they're smaller so [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► that's a great product story because [TS]