The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► so we should start tonight with a sitrep [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► situation report it is Wednesday the 9th [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► of January it is about 9 o'clock in the [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► evening one true time zone and as of [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► right now I'm still here but there is a [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► 50/50 shot at home can I have to run out [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► of this episode in the middle of it so [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► this is gonna be an adventure for all [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► three and kind of four and I guess you [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► could almost even say five of us I might [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► need to leave Aaron might need to go to [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► the hospital and spring maybe here I [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► mean it is actually it is theoretically [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► feasible although I certainly don't hope [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► it's the case that by the time this show [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► stops recording I could have needed to [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► leave go to the hospital and Aaron could [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► hypothetically birth our second child [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► before you two shut up [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► that happened before you leave the house [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► let me tell you it's not even go there [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► Oh God do you want to tell that story [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► yeah John you have some experience with [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► this and I don't think I've told that [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► story at length on this podcast we don't [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► need to do it today we should start with [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► some follow-up though let's talk about [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► meltdown Spectre and all the things that [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► are happening my Tom lines a little [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► fuzzy cuz I've been a bit preoccupied so [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► we did have this link from Apple but [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► during the last recording right it'll [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► you be talking about the WebKit one no [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► no this is the original official okay [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► cuz the WebKit one is also excellent [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► yeah I didn't get a chance to read that [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► notes I've already downloaded the update [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► but I didn't want to read the note for [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► it it's nice that they release the [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► Safari update for old OS I am on staring [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► at El Cap right here and I got the [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► Safari update which I mean that's [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► another complaint people have about the [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► spectrum meltdown thing and a whole [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► Apple is handling it so like so where is [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► the kernel update for any version of [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► than the very very latest version of Mac [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► OS that's not really how Apple rolls [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► were just kind of disappointing you [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► would hope that Apple would this one [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► aspect that Apple should adopt a little [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► bit more of the enterprising Minds had [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► to say for super critical security [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► things maybe consider backporting some [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► number of versions instead of just [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► saying no the only thing that exists is [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► the very very bleeding edge you know [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► was gonna Apple Apple is gonna Apple all [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► right so it's can you walk me through [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► the official Apple statement if you [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► don't mind John [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► I was nothing much there this is another [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► one of these you know fairly [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► straightforward explanations just so the [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► last time the Apple didn't even have one [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► and it was just like they were just a [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► little bit late and putting it out but [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► it's not a super great explanation lots [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► of people have been sending links to [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► explanations that help them understand [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► what this is all about most of them I [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► found to be not to my liking because [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► like it's the difference in audience [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► it's like if you if most of the words we [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► said in the last shop didn't make any [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► sense to you you need a different kind [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► of explanation so those people who need [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► that kind of explanation are the ones [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► reading articles where they compare it [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► to a waiter or to like music or factory [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► or all sorts of things that use [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► analogies to real word things to try to [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► explain to people you know how [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► instruction pipelines work what [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► speculative execution is with branch [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► prediction there's stuff like that and [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► so it's it's been interesting to see the [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► different variety of analogies and [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► metaphors that are used in those [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► articles but apparently a lot of them [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► are really helping people understand [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► this in a way that for example our [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► previous show would not have and did not [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► so we apologize for that but we're glad [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► there's lots of good explainers out [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► there for you [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► I think the Raspberry Pi folks had yeah [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► one of the more popular let's say [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► laypersons explanation of it with it [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► with a great capper at the end where [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► they say after many many paragraphs of [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► laborious explanation raspberry pi [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► doesn't suffer this because we use CPUs [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► that don't have speculative execution [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► which is not really something to brag [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► about because that means they use cheap [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► very old very weak CPUs [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► because you know raspberry PI's is a [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► small cheap low powered thing but that's [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► it's nice for them let's see what else [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► what else has come out about this in the [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► meantime oh the second length here and [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► the same topic is this is the best web [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► page I found showing what the speed hit [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► is on the Mac for the patches that work [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► around this [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► and as always it's not you know there's [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► no clear-cut answer so as the summary of [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► this set this article says the main [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► question to be answered is if the [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► performance impact exists yes it is very [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► clear you want three graphs there's the [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► performance impact is it relevant it [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► depends and that's the worst kind of [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► ants what do you mean it depends it [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► really totally depends and exactly what [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► you're doing [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► exactly how many system calls you're [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► making another interesting thing to come [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► out of this article is another [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► measurement of the performance hit of a [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► PFS virtues versus HFS+ which like they [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► weren't intending to measure that but [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► they sort of accidentally did when they [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► compared like sierra to high sierra [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► without the patch to high sierra with [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► the patch the the performance impact of [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► a PFS the negative performance impact of [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► a PFS encrypted a PFS far outweighs the [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► impact of this security patch so I don't [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► know if we've talked about that before [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► but a BFS in general it's lower than [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► HFS+ and most of the benchmarks which I [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► would think it to be expected because [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► hfs+ was a file system that was tuned to [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► be acceptable fast on a computer and [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► like you know 1989 or whatever so it's [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► massively overmatched by the the power [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► we have now and a PFS has way more [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► features in it so a more modern file [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► system and so it's not going to be as [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► fast as something that used to run [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► really well on a Mac se hopefully AP FS [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► will get faster in the future right but [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► you know it's very new but it just plain [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► does more it has more features than HFS+ [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► and more safety the space great [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► peripherals are selling for hilarious [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► prices on ebay the three of us were kind [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► of giggling about the thought that oh [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► since these are so rare that they may [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► command I mean probably will command [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► some amount of premium over what a [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► regular device would look like so quick [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► refresher the iMac pros since it's that [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► sexy Space Gray the peripherals also [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► have to be sexy Space Gray and by [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► default you can order the computer with [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► a a 10 what do you call full-size now so [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► not a 10 kilos a full-size bluetooth [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► Apple keyboard and either a Magic Mouse [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► or Magic Trackpad or you can optionally [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► for some amount of money I don't [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► remember how much you can get both the [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► trackpad and the mouse these are only [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► available if you buy a imac pro so [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► naturally there [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► very fancy and special somebody is dug [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► up some eBay listings that if you're [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► listening to this far in the future will [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► probably not be available but a triplet [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► of magic keyboard trackpad and mouse is [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► not going for went as of yesterday for [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► $1,080 so that's $1,000 for a fact pad a [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► keyboard and a mouse oh and presumably a [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► light a bespoke lightning cable actually [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► oh the black lightning cable of course I [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► refuse to believe these are real people [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► these have to be speculators but there's [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► at least like if you if you search a [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► base sold items for like Space Gray [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► Magic Trackpad you get all these [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► listings and it's there's no that's why [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► I put this in there because we thought [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► they wouldn't sell for that much and [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► they totally are selling for a lot of [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► money the question is who are they [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► selling to and that's the second [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► everything is like so are real people [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► actually putting this much talking eyes [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► or is it speculation where people [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► believe that this will be a high ticket [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► item for a long time I continue to [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► believe that Apple will eventually that [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► Apple will eventually allow you to buy [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► peripherals that are this color [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► separately which will of course destroy [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► the market for these things so I hope [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► the people who bought them are able to [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► resell them at a profit before that [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► happens but I don't know when that will [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► happen [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► presumably I mean this is kind of like [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► trying to be like an iPhone speculator [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► like unlike the biggest market for these [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► things is behind us and it's going down [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► everyday not up so like anybody buying [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► these for this price like they're the [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► worst speculators in the world like it's [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► like if these are only gonna get more [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► common and more available over time like [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► they're and they're really cool right [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► now or really two weeks ago because [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► they're brand new and no one's seen them [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► before in these colors but like that is [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► a very temporary thing the window of [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► time to make a profit there is very [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► short the only way would work is if if [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► Apple never makes another space gray [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► computer with space Berger who's like if [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► the iMac Pro like they continue to make [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► the iMac Pro but it changes color and [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► this was like the only generation of [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► these things then you could have some [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► value but just ask somebody [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► Stephen Hackett with an Apple TV not [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► that one no no not that one no the other [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► one No [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► that one the black known up this black [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► one I don't know how to refer to the [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► Apple TV it was a giant macintosh [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► computer that could also be a television [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► it was also hideously was also black and [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► it was from and that was it there wasn't [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► like a huge collection of black desktop [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► macintosh computers surrounding that [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► even that doesn't every tain its value [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► that well so i mean now marco you've got [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► me convinced now I'm starting to hope [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► that these are really are individual [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► people because like if they're [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► speculators they're probably going to be [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► disappointed but if they're individuals [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► maybe they're happy with their thousand [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► dollar purchase of a keyboard and mouse [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► thing yeah like lightning and black [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► Apple stickers we forgot about that you [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► can get those at the Mac Pro though [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► those are dime a dozen just go by a [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► trash can yeah you know I'll throw in [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► and buy some black stickers I'll throw [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► in a trash can for free so regardless as [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► of the time of this recording that full [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► set went for $1000 a trackpad is for [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► sale for 310 dollars or more and a magic [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► mouse is for sale for $295 or more and [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► really while you guys were talking it [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► occurred to me that that if they're in [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► really and truly loved me she would go [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► ahead and have this baby immediately [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► because I'm going to be purchasing my [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► false set from under score and he has [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► told me that he will bring them down [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► when he comes to visit to meet sprigs so [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► the quicker that she can pop this baby [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► out the quicker I can get my fancy black [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► peripherals so really this is this is [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► all about me and that's that's what she [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► really needs to be considerate of I mean [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► there is a faster way to get them the [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► auction spend I believe it's Apple calm [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► slash iMac - Pro - buy or something yeah [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► yeah it's alright so many five times [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► expensive is the peripherals by [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► themselves that isn't that a reasonable [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► I already bought mine from Jason by the [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► way I use the the Apple messages payment [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► that I was that the first time I use it [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► maybe I sent Casey someone it is called [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► Apple pay cash and I have now sold two [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► computers with it anyway a mine is on my [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► way to me my keyboard just the keyboard [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► itself I did not pay $1000 Jason took [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► pity on you had answered no I'm not [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► going to sell the keyboard it's not for [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► sale I just noticed today I had a friend [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► of mine had purchased for me a couple of [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► pieces of clothing [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► from the Apple park visitors center and [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► I paid him with Apple pay cash [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► apparently disclosed at some point that [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► I'd forgotten or just not well disclosed [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► that if you use a credit card for Apple [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► pay cash there's a 3% service charge [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► which I was not aware of so this $50 [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► transaction was like a $52 transaction [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► not a big deal but it was very [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► surprising when I'm looking at my [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► iMessage history and seeing it was you [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► know 50 dollars and 20 cents or whatever [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► that wasn't hell it was and then I'm [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► looking at my bank statement saying it [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► was $52 again whatever the numbers were [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► and I did not expect that so pro tip if [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► you're going to be using Apple pay cash [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► use a debit card but did you get [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► frequent flyer miles or Amazon Prime [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► points or cash back to offset that 3% [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► now I will eventually get a smattering [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► of cash back probably lessons yet but [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► you're not gonna get 3% this is the [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► entire rack of the credit card business [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► is like you know they they have these I [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► forget where they call interchange fees [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► something like that look as part of that [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► 3% and and it's like but usually the [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► vendor pays it not you yeah there's no [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► way to charge to charge money to a [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► credit card without somebody paying a [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► fee of at least around two and a half [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► percent depending on you know their [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► their merchants deal and everything it's [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► like someone's paying that some way or [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► if using a credit card debit cards are [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► all different and don't work that way [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► bank transfers are different and don't [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► work that way but credit cards all work [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► that way like someone is paying that fee [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► jhanas right usually it's the vendor in [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► this case you know it's like if you want [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► the person to receive this money then [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► you have to pay the fee you know if you [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► wanted to receive 50 bucks and not 47 or [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► whatever you know you you're paying 50 [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► to to give them 50 but that's just the [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► nature of credit cards and sending money [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► online [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► yeah I'm not you know like disappointed [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► by this or if I am I'm just pointing [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► myself for not having remembered but it [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► was something that I did not expect so [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► this is your PSA ladies and gentlemen [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► use a debit card if you can also note [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► that the rewards that you're gonna get [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► for that are probably not exceeding [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► about 1.5% [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► it's that would like the really good [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► rewards end up being along the lines of [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► 1.5% [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► anybody out there who thinks like oh [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► I'll pay the surcharge for something but [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► I'll get it back and rewards no you [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► won't [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► the house always wins we had a couple of [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► people write in that are either ex Apple [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► geniuses or Apple [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► geniuses and they made the same point [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► which was part of the reason that Apple [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► geniuses tend to be reluctant to do a [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► battery replacement is that often times [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► that isn't really the problem you know [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► sometimes a slowdown or or perhaps a [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► really tough battery situation is [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► because you've been playing a shedload [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► of Pokemon go and you didn't disclose [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► that when you were talked in the genius [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► and the easier answer rather than either [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► charging Apple money or charging the [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► customer money even more importantly is [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► to just say hey maybe cool it on the [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► couch in the pokey man's maybe that'll [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► do a little better for you so they that [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► was an interesting point I hadn't [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► considered yeah like it's like you said [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► it we got this feedback a lot and it's [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► not like they're refusing to do it for [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► your own good it's the what they're [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► trying to avoid is a situation where a [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► customer comes in and says I have a [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► problem and then the customer this must [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► happen all the time the customer decides [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► they know what the solution did the [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► problem is this isn't exclusive to [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► battery it's just whatever anything it [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► could be your car or a vacuum cleaner or [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► whatever you know customer has a problem [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► and customer says and by the way I'm [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► also sure I know how to fix this problem [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► I want you to replace the belt on my [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► whatever I want you to you know give me [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► a new whatever like they they have [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► diagnose the problem they know exactly [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► what's wrong and they just say look just [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► don't don't give me a runaround just you [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► know put a new battery in my car right I [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► mean deal listen working over these [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► stipulation cars you know what I mean [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► that's what volt thing [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► what acid oh I have one of those too [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► yeah maybe maybe the problem is like an [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► engine control unit or maybe it's a [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► gasket that's blown over and like so the [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► person who wants to look at your assets [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► let us the car fixing experts look at [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► your car and run all or a little [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► Diagnostics and we'll tell you what's [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► wrong with that but no no the customer [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► says I don't care what you find I know [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► that this is exactly what I need and [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► service centers or Apple or whatever are [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► reluctant to do that because if I say [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► okay we'll do it and they do it even if [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► they do it for free but but especially [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► if they charge you to do it right and [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► then they give the thing back to you and [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► say okay we did what you asked we [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► replaced your whatever here you go then [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► they come back the next day and said the [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► problems still there and now you have [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► the argument it's like well you know we [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► didn't say this would fix your problem [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► but you insist [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► did we do this because you thought it [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► would fix your problem but it turns out [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► it didn't and that's a conversation you [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► never won't have with the customer [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► because they're gonna be like I don't [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► care about the globe lock [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► so what Happel wants to do is you [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► customer just describe your problem and [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► then we'll figure out what it takes to [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► fix it whether that's gonna give you a [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► completely new device or replace a bunch [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► of parts or whatever it's gonna be but [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► if you come to us and demand we do a [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► specific thing especially if you demand [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► we do it for free under warranty it [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► could just be a waste of both of our [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► times so that's all well and good and we [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► heard that from a lot of people and I [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► know I know where they're coming from [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► and sometimes I know where customers are [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► coming from because sometimes I'm that [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► customer who says look I just just do [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► this just just replace this thing I [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► won't yell at you if it doesn't work [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► what I'm pretty sure this is it but my [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► question to a couple these Apple [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► geniuses was okay fine whatever say [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► somebody comes in like I did and says [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► there's nothing wrong with my phone I [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► don't actually have a problem all I want [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► to do is give you money and exchange for [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► that money you take out the battery [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► that's in there and put in a new one and [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► for the most part the appletinis has [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► said yeah we'll do that like as long as [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► we're all on the same page that there's [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► not an actual problem that we're trying [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► to solve like there's no acknowledged [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► problem at all it's just a thing you [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► want to happen not gonna do it under [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► warranty for free if there's no problem [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► obviously because that's just wasteful [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► and that was one angle that some people [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► brought up is the waste of like if you [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► have a perfectly good battery us [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► replacing it even if you pass is not [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► particularly environmentally conscious [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► because batteries are all filled with [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► the you know heavy metals and other [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► things that are not great so why would [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► you take a perfectly good battery and [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► throw away and replace it with another [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► one so I kind of see that angle too but [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► in the end I feel like if someone comes [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► in with a lot of money especially it was [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► $80 and not thirty and says my phone has [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► no problems but please replace don't [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► matter you should do so and like I said [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► I did that and they did replace it for [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► me but there was a weird pause about it [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► so it would be better if there was less [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► mystery surrounding this process and it [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► would be much better if more customers [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► knew how how accessible battery [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► replacements are for their iOS devices [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► of course this or I should say it use [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► past tense how accessible they were [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► because the other strain of feedback we [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► got is from long-suffering Apple retail [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► employees who are now in the midst of [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► what they described as a [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► situation where many many angry [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► customers are coming to the stores [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► wanting new batteries and they don't [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► have any new batteries and there's like [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► a week-long wait time and people are [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► super angry and like I want my free [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► battery and the public understanding of [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► this problem as we predicted is not very [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► good people are just angry and just want [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► either new batteries for free or new [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► phones and they're even more angry when [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► you tell them that even if we could give [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► you what you want you have to wait a [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► week so for Apple but it's kind of their [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► own deal this is kind of it reminds me [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► of the Takata Takata whatever it is [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► airbag recall because I got a notice for [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► my car jeez I'm gonna say like a year [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► ago maybe even more that oh your airbag [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► is screwed up and hey it may kill you [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► but there's nothing we can do about it [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► right now because we don't have any and [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► it wasn't replaced until just a couple [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► of months back that to me is a far more [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► egregious issue in that if I got in an [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► accident the airbag that's supposed to [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► save my life might actually injure me [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► whereas this is just oh my phone isn't [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► working as quickly as I want and man I [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► took a lot I've heard a lot of grumpy [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► people that were upset at me for not you [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► know taking Apple you know behind the [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► shed and shooting it in the face or [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► whatever because I was not extremely [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► drunk about this battery issue that [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► analogy fell off fell down as soon as I [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► open my mouth interesting child [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► discipline technique that fell down as [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► soon as I open my mouth but it was too [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► late but anyway we'll fix it in post the [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► point I'm driving up there was really [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► grumpy I know we want that that were [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► real grumpy that I wasn't that I wasn't [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► grumpy about this you know slow down [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► thing and I'm sorry but like hey I'm [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► sorry if an older phone isn't as fast as [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► it once was like everyone needs to take [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► a damn chill pill it's frustrating yes [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► but holy cow people are really worked up [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► about this it's not an airbag it's not a [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► malfunctioning seatbelt it's a telephone [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► it'll be okay speaking of cars and [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► recalls I have an annoying experience [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► with my Honda recently they had some [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► recall thing and I was I was think I was [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► going in for regular service anyway or [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► maybe he was just encouraging me to go [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► in but it was some recall Mike fine [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► whatever do my recall thing it's free [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► you know not a big deal was like a [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► battery it was one of those paranoid [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► things were like if you get a bunch of [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► salt on this battery terminal it could [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► potentially spark and do a blah blah [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► blah and it's like that's never gonna [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► happen [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► like yes there's salt everywhere but I'm [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► not afraid my thing is gonna explode you [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► can you know I could see the battery [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► it's sitting right there it's not in [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► danger of spewing flame anyway whatever [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► so fine they do some battery terminal [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► watch your mozi and I thought was fine [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► and then like two months later I get [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► another recall message and like oh I can [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► ignore that I already did that recall [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► and wherever like no this is a different [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► recall like for the same thing for the [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► battery terminal and my vague [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► understanding of this I was mostly just [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► too annoyed to look into it very deeply [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► was that the first recall was like a a [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► temporary patch where they just threw [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► some goop on something or sealed [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► something up to prevent this potential [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► sparking giant explosion from the [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► battery because they didn't have enough [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► of the replacement part that they wanted [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► that they should have replaced it with [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► and the second recall is hey guess what [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► we got the replacement parts now so come [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► back in and we'll get rid of that little [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► temporary fix we did and put in the [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► replacement part I suppose it's nice [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► that they would do two recalls are free [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► but as anyone where the car knows it you [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► know even more so than with phones and [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► maybe equally so with an all-in-one [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► computer like Marcos iMac the worst part [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► of any of these things is having to go [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► in to the dealer or having to go in at [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► all doesn't really matter what they do [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► when they're there or if it costs no [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► money the time and hassle of just [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► getting the car to the dealer and [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► waiting while they do whatever it's so [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► much worse than any other aspect of the [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► experience that it almost doesn't matter [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► what they do so you had to go to the [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► dealer two times at least with the Apple [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► thing you only have to go once unless I [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► suppose you take it two hour drive to [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► the mall get there and find out they [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► tell you that you have to come back in a [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► week when they have batteries in stock [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► yeah I've had similar issues with [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► service issues with Tesla like they just [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► are out of every part ever all the time [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► and like they had a batter if they had a [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► parking brake recall last summer I still [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► haven't gotten done I'm still waiting [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► for them to call me told me to have my [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► part in like I've called him like every [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► like three months or so to check on this [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► meantime don't park on Hills but oh yeah [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► it was apparently a minor thing but like [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► like I also I order [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► snow tires on in like early December [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► sometime and when you order something [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► from Tesla's online parts store [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► something like that that like has to be [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► installed somehow somewhere what they do [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► is they just deliver it to your local [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► service center and then they call you [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► and/or email you when it's ready to and [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► you set up an appointment to get it [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► installed so what are these snow tires [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► in early December time goes by i got [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► nothing i get no emails there's no order [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► status lookup page there's nothing like [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► this is it's like it's like an online [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► store designed in 1992 like there's like [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► it's the most bare-bones thing ever you [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► halfway expect to see a clear form [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► button on the bottom like it's that it's [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► that bare-bones yeah so like middle of [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► last week I'm like you know it's snowing [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► constantly I really could use the snow [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► tires where the heck are they [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► and I still had nothing from Tesla and I [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► got an email saying please rate your [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► recent service experience at Tesla and I [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► couldn't get any service recently I [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► wonder if maybe their system just didn't [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► send me that email screwed up in all [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► these different ways but maybe it [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► thought that them arriving at the [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► service center was a service visit and [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► generated that email so I called the [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► service center and sure enough they're [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► like oh yeah we have them in now like oh [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► just been showing out thanks for telling [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► they're the office mascot now you're for [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► snow tires yeah oh yeah when do you want [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► to come and have them install everything [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► with Tesla service and parts is a [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► disaster and just trying to get things [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► there and availability everything's [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► constantly back ordered and like the [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► cars are so great I'm so happy with the [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► car but God if you ever need to wait for [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► a part it's not good experience yeah [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► it's alright so tell me about iPhone 10 [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► screen burnin the question we had about [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► the apples for solid phone oh it has [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► burning issues supposedly were spell [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► burnin issues than LCD and but of course [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► Android phone said had all its greens [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► for a long time so presumably it was a [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► known quantity this is the first test [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► I've seen of an actual iPhone 10 versus [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► a couple of popular Android phones with [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► OLED screens for burnin unfortunately it [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► is [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► all in what are we gonna say is that [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► Chinese Korean I'm not good at looking [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► at a text and telling exactly what [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► sighing Korean age you look for the [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► closed circles because there's this [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► looks more Korean to me but I'm not sure [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► yeah Chinese and Japanese don't have the [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► closed circles thingy identified [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► Japanese the best anyway all that is to [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► say I don't know what it says except [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► what Google Translate tells me there's a [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► YouTube video and an article but the [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► upshot of it appears to be that the [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► iPhone 10 resisted burning much much [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► better than the two other Android phones [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► that they tested they they had it on [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► full brightness on the same image for [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► like hundreds of hours to get very mild [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► burnin so it looks pretty good probably [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► probably better than like say my iPad 3 [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► or many other past LCD iOS devices that [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► I found suffer pretty severe image [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► retention after a couple of years [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► obviously this iPhone 10 is a new ish [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► it's not a three-year-old iPhone 10 but [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► compared to its compared to a couple of [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► contemporary phones it looks like it's [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► pretty good so I think Apple got a [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► pretty good screen here chat room says [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► Korean survey circles close circles [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► that's the secret we are sponsored this [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► week by fracture beautiful photos [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► printed directly on glass because it [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► fractured on me and get 15% off your [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► first fracture order with code ATP 17 [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► fracture prints are awesome we have them [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► all over our house we have huge ones we [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► have tiny ones all the sizes in between [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► fracture prints are just great whenever [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► people see them they always ask what are [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► those or if they're podcast listeners [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► they say are those for extra prints [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► because they they just look so nice in [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► person and also they make wonderful [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► gifts that we've given them as gifts [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► numerous times and we get great [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► responses each time especially if like [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► getting pictures of say our kid to give [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► to his grandparents these make such good [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► gifts now even though it's after the [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► holidays there's going to be times [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► throughout the year where you should get [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► a gift for somebody in your family or a [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► friend and give them a wonderful [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► fracture print of something that'll be [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► meaningful to them and I'm telling you [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► it'll go over well they have a sleek [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► frameless design the prints go edge to [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► edge and these thin pieces of glass they [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► come with everything you need right in [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► the box to hang it on your wall they are [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► actually surprisingly lightweight [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► because it's a very thin piece of glass [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► and the and what holds [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► up is like a very thin piece of almost [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► like a like a foam core kind of board [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► behind it so you don't have the the [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► weight of like having it be all like [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► solid like 2h that class so you know you [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► don't to worry about it like fogging [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► left your wall breaking etc they're [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► wonderful trust me if you want photos [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► printed and you know what you should [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► sometimes because you don't want your [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► photos to just live in your Instagram [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► feed for like two seconds and then you [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► never see them again get things printed [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► that means something to you and the best [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► way to do that is fracture so go to [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► fracture dot me and get 15% off your [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► first order with code 80 P 17 if they [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► ask you where you can't worry that where [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► you heard about them from where you came [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► from make sure to tell them ATP it helps [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► support the show tells them where their [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► ads are working so once again fracture [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► dot me code ATP 17 to get 15% off your [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► first order of those wonderful beautiful [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► glass photo prints and when they ask [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► where you came from please say ATP [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► thanks so much to fracture for [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► sponsoring our show I do have a very [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► quick very quick review of my iMac pro [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► after finally having a week of like real [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► use in this week I have done lots of [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► podcast editing I have done Xcode work [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► programming work with with iOS apps with [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► my one iOS app and I have also done a [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► lot of video transcoding I ripped a [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► couple of blu-rays and did some video [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► transcoding work including some pretty [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► heavy ones like trying to do h.265 and [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► everything else I have yet to hear the [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► fan spin up like I have thrown [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► everything I can at this CPU granted I [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► have almost done almost nothing to the [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► GPU because that's you know my workload [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► is typically very CPU heavy and pretty [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► light on the GPU oh I also imported I [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► think 400 pictures from the sony a7r 3 [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► which we got to and did Brent had [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► Lightroom render one-to-one previews on [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► import which I usually do for various [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► reasons so I threw everything I could at [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► the cpu I've seen all the cores either [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► be maxed out or be almost maxed out for [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► sustained periods I cannot get the fan [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► to spin up into it to a level that it's [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► audible did you play games no of course [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► not I don't play games [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► but it was play some games why we know [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► that we have intend to switch it's the [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► best it's the best game platform ever [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► why would I play the game to my computer [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► because it you want to stress this the [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► CPU and the GP [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► at the same time double the heat no but [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► I don't care dude you play game on your [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► fax machine like no just this is for [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► science not for you it's for science [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► anyway so all this is to say that so far [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► in my in my week of using this computer [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► pretty heavily I'm just incredibly happy [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► with it it is so good it is so fast it [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► is so quiet it is it and it's just it [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► just has no limits for me like not [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► everything is perfectly fast and stable [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► but that's that's down to software not [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► hardware like it is just so damn good [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► I'm incredibly happy with the iMac Pro [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► and I would say it is [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► I wouldn't say extremely likely that I [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► wouldn't ever need another Mac Pro again [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► but ok but it is everyone marked this [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► down I'm just saying it is somewhat [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► likely that I might not need the Mac Pro [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► mmm well I don't need the Mac Pro but I [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► might not want a knife or after that's [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► like this is so so damn good that even [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► though I mean I think you know John's [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► assertion last episode was correct that [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► there's pretty much no chance if I don't [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► at least buy the Mac Pro so so I am I am [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► probably gonna buy it but man this is [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► good and anybody who thinks oh maybe [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► this won't be as good as the Mac Pro I [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► should wait honestly I don't think you [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► need to wait this is the new Mac Pro for [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► all intents and purposes and it's so [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► good that if you have a need for this [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► kind of computer right now just get this [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► it's amazing I'm glad you like it I [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► really am I think it's hilarious that [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► you think you would even for a fleeting [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► moment say no to a Mac Pro I mean this [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► is like when I was talking about the [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► Apple watch that I didn't want like [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► three or four things in a row that I [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► told everyone I didn't want and then [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► ended up immediately reneging on the X [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► yeah exactly I don't think I want a I [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► don't think I want a home pod so let's [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► just put that on record right now I [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► don't think I do either you have no [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► problem sticking to that one I've never [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► ship it a good point but I think it's [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► pretty obvious that both of us will end [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► up with a home pod so to address me [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► mania in the chat can you functionally [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► tell this is a much better computer than [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► the reg [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► I'm AK without benchmarking or stress [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► testing that's a very good question you [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► can tell that just whenever you do [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► anything multi-threaded it is notice [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► it'll be faster obviously because I'm [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► going from four cores to ten so like [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► you're gonna see that difference like [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► that that's a big difference it also you [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► know besides like you know the cosmetic [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► stuff like the space grain everything it [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► also just being able to operate no [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► matter what you throw at it in silence [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► is a pretty big difference from the 5k [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► iMac the 5k iMac for all like as I [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► mentioned last episode I you know [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► haven't used the computer for three [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► years it's a great computer and for a [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► lot of people that is plenty that's fine [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► but the one thing that always got me [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► about it that was not true of Mac Pros [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► is that it what you would hear the fan [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► spin up up and down up and down as you [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► if you if you were pushing the CPU [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► really hard for things you'd hear the [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► fan come up and down with it [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► where is with this that doesn't happen [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► so that is a pretty big difference if [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► you're if you're doing things that [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► really stress it and if you care about [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► fan noise if one of those things is not [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► true for you then you're fine with the [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► with the regular Mac and but it's you [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► were definitely getting something for [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► the additional money here in addition to [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► the performance increases in the [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► different architecture and you know the [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► ECC and stuff like that I would say the [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► the the ability to run in that silence [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► could easily come to the iMac to the [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► regular iMac if they redesigned it [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► thermally to be more like this but they [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► can't do that as far as I can tell until [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► they remove all ability to put a three [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► and a half inch hard drive in there [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► because if you look at how the internals [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► of these things are laid out the reason [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► the iMac Pro is able to cool itself to [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► not only to cool itself with just such a [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► high thermal load with always all these [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► high-end components in it but I think [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► one of the reasons they're able to do it [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► so quietly is because they have a giant [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► heatsink and fan assembly located right [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► in the middle of the back the thickest [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► part of the enclosure and that is right [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► where the three and a half inch hard [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► drive goes in a regular iMac so if they [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► continue to ship IMAX with hard drive [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► options available look honestly I think [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► the time for that is just about done you [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► know probably the next major generation [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► of iMac I assume they're probably going [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► to drop the hard drive [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► and if they do then they can adopt this [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► kind of thermal design and then they can [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► run it in silence to the other place [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► people might notice the speed difference [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► on that I mic Pro which is unfortunately [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► undercut by an even more dramatic speed [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► differences if you do if if you're [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► coming from a computer like a like a [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► iMac 5k or even older that has a [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► spinning Drive even if it's in a fusion [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► drive configuration and you do lots of [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► reading and writing very large files and [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► I was gonna say oh you really noticed [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► that when you duplicate a three gig file [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► but unfortunately a PFS makes [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► duplicating a three a file in same [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► volume instantaneous so it kind of kills [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► your ability to see that benchmark or [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► I'm getting out is that the SSDs in the [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► iMac Pro are very very fast especially [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► for large bulk transfers of huge files [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► it could be that it ends up being you [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► know if you've not cooked up the 10 gig [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► Ethernet your three gigs per second of [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► disk i/o you're never you're never gonna [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► see that you're never gonna see it on [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► the same volume because the a BFS will [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► instantly copy it and you're never gonna [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► see it across the wire because you're [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► limited by the speed of Ethernet but [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► rest assured that the disk is much [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► faster so if you do things that have do [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► a lot of i/o it's hey just reading a [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► very large file into RAM or saving out a [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► large file you may notice those progress [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► bar speed up and that's not a [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► multi-threaded thing it's just like you [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► know if you ever used it staring in a [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► progress bar when disk i/o is going on [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► that progress bar should go faster on [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► the iMac Pro than it does on other [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► computers but yeah if you're if you're [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► just running single threaded [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► applications the iMac pro is actually [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► slower than the 5k I'm the top-end 5k [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► iMac for some single-threaded tests [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► depending on how many cores you get it [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► but it's all it's all about the [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► multi-core and I suppose if you're doing [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► anything having to do the GPU the GPU in [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► the iMac Pro even though marker never [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► uses it to do anything except for show [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► windows on his screen is way way faster [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► than the 5k I'm max I think Lightroom [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► uses it well plus I've heard reports [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► from marco from underscore and from [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► Jason Snelling out how much faster [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► ffmpeg is and in transcoding video is on [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► their fancy-pants iMac pros and pretty [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► much everyone is has independently [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► concluded that it's about twice as fast [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► as their prior 5k IMAX now I think [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► everyone had older 5k iMac Siddhant I [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► have but nevertheless it's basically a [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► 2x improvement and that makes me sad [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► because [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► although I don't transcode stuff as much [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► as I probably paint it I do it often [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► enough that I wish I had more speed with [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► which to do it but do I want do you [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► spend 5000 plus dollars to transcode [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► videos quicker no no I don't speaking of [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► spending a shitload of money Marco tell [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► me about your camera I love that's my [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► name voice comes out of that phrase it [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► sure does [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► so sometime last year I described that I [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► had sold my my formerly beloved Sony a7r [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► to just even hack it incidentally [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► because I was not happy with its speed [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► and battery life were the two big issues [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► with it and I had gone back to Canon [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► SLRs back from from whence I came and [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► and I was very happy with the handling [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► and everything of Canon SLRs I was never [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► as happy with the pictures I would get [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► out of the Canon SLRs because the Sony [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► had not only a pretty big megapixel [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► advantage and the camera talking about [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► on account side is the 5d Mark 4 which [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► is an amazing camera and so but the main [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► problem was that it doesn't it didn't [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► have the megapixels it did have the [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► anti-aliasing filter over the sensor so [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► it was you couldn't quite get the the [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► level of sharpness out of out of the [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► Canon and it didn't have as advanced of [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► an autofocus system and so my my hit [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► rate was not as good it also didn't have [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► him body stabilisation so like it also [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► just kind of further lowered the hit [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► rate and it couldn't quite achieve the [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► high ISO numbers or dynamic range and [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► shadows that the Sony could it was very [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► close but but it was you know it was a [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► noticeable downgrade in those areas but [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► I was happy with the Canon because it [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► was just so much more pleasurable to use [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► because everything was so much faster [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► and it handled so much better and [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► everything and and I would still stand [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► by the fact that if you are shooting [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► events like if you're some kind of pro [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► role I think the Canon line is still [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► what you want and maybe Nikon - I'm [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► sorry Nikon fans I don't know anything [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► about a Nikon really I rented d750 [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► and it was great but when it came time [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► to buy I i wasn't that convinced by the [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► lens line-up for what I actually would [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► want in my lenses and so I didn't I [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► didn't go an icon at any of these points [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► but anyway the the main problem I had [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► with the Canon again was just that I [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► wasn't getting my favorite images out of [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► it like I as I was looking back like [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► most of my most of my favorite images [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► were shot by the Sony and the Canon [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► Canon was so much more pleasurable to [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► use and way faster and the battery life [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► was way better but I I just was not [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► getting images that blew me away out of [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► it really is made for pro use and that's [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► where it really does excel but that's [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► not what I needed I really just wanted a [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► camera that gave me shockingly good [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► images that just made me feel something [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► good they were and the Canon just didn't [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► do that late last late in 2017 it's like [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► you know a couple months ago Sony [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► announced the a7 r3 and it doesn't [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► actually change that much from the a7 r2 [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► but two of the big things that changes [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► are battery life and performance the two [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► big problems I have in video yeah it's [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► the same sensor a couple of minor [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► improvements here and there but for the [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► most part it's it's fairly similar but a [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► battery that's like two and a half times [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► the size and the and and a significantly [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► upgraded image processor and interface [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► and everything else so it's just a lot [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► snappier I decided since Christmas the [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► Christmas season is by far my heaviest [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► photography time I decided right before [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► Christmas you know what let me try it [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► because one thing I did when I left the [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► Sony ecosystem I kept my two favorite [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► lenses the 35 2.8 and the 55 1.8 primes [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► I kept both of those thinking you know [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► if I ever go back I'll have these lenses [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► I want to rebuy them if I don't go back [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► after a couple years I'll sell them [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► they'll still have a lot of value and [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► it's not going to matter whether I sell [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► them now or in a year or two so I still [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► had the lens so all I did was buy the [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► body and I figure you know what let me [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► try it if it's terrible I can return it [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► or sell it or something and so I shot [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► all through Christmas with it and it is [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► fantastic it is [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► so so good it is still not to the levels [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► of performance and battery life that the [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► Canon offers that that most SLRs can [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► offer but it's now close enough it's now [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► like those things are not huge [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► hindrances that annoy me while using it [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► they're just now very minor you know [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► limitations but it's a it's a massive [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► difference in those two areas and I have [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► taken shots that I just love from this [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► camera or like it is just so good and [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► because of the features it offers and [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► some other performance areas it offers [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► especially in regards to auto focus [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► features auto focus performance and [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► low-light performance and embody [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► stabilization it is just an incredibly [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► high keeper rate of what I shoot [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► compared to you know my regular SLR use [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► so I'm now back in the Sony world I [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► guess and it's really really a very good [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► camera and it is not cheap none of this [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► stuff is cheap I mean it's the camera is [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► like three thousand dollars and the [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► lenses I just mentioned I think are [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► seven or eight hundred dollars each [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► this is not a cheap thing to do but no [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► camera that offers this level of [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► performance is cheap you know the Canon [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► s laws aren't cheap either [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► so you know within the realm of what you [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► get I think it is well priced and it is [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► really really good and I'm very glad I [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► have it so what does TIFF think of it [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► because she was even when you had the [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► the art - she was the SLR the Canon SLR [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► die hard who didn't want to come over to [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► the Sony side of the fence with a [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► mirrorless side of the fence even yeah [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► she very much prefers the canons but she [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► said over Christmas that she was glad [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► that I got this because it is the the [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► Sony has pretty big advantages when [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► you're shooting indoors in low-light [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► which a lot of our Christmas shooting is [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► exactly that [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► and so and and it's also just you know [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► small and unobtrusive and easy to handle [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► and easy to like have around like in the [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► living room while we're opening gifts [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► and stuff like that so it's like it was [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► a very very good camera for our needs [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► for Christmas and so even though it is [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► not her favorite camera the rest of the [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► year she was [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► very happy I have it and and you know [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► it's gonna continue to be my camera [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► basically and the canons will resume [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► being her cameras the way that used to [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► be but yeah she's got year-round to use [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► the camera if he doesn't like yeah [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► pretty much I mean and and she's not as [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► good on you though and she's that that I [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► that I don't no longer need to use hers [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► don't laugh of that you didn't get that [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► reference I didn't know I was laughing [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► at your voice really trust me that was a [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► dead-on imitation of the thing I was [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► referencing good congratulations [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► I give you one point as far as you know [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► is dead-on [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► yeah God have mercy on your soul [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► actually that was no points that's right [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► yep anyway alright so you like your [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► camera that's good so what are the one [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► of the complaints about other than cost [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► like so are you are you a hundred [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► percent happy now or outside of the fact [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► that you're broke or are you just ninety [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► percent happy I'm pretty happy I mean [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► the battery life is now good enough like [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► it's it's the point where you can I was [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► able to shoot with it like all day and [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► not have to not have to swap batteries [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► and and that's that's way different than [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► the a7r to you know like I left the a7r [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► to when it when it came out it came with [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► two batteries in the box that's how bad [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► the battery life is on the ASMR true [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► that they ship it with two batteries [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► like I've never seen any electronic of [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► any kind that came with two of its own [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► batteries because the battery life was [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► so bad they knew you would need both [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► like I've literally never seen that [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► before or since but you know this would [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► only comes with one for a reason like [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► you really don't like one is fine I have [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► a second one just cuz I was afraid so I [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► buy the second one I'm like I did swap [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► it a couple times like during downtime [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► on Christmas Day like when we had like [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► you know you know no need to shoot for [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► like 20 minutes I would swap anyway but [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► I didn't need to and it's I swapped [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► twice and I like compared like the you [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► know that the percentage is like oh I [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► didn't need I didn't even need to swap [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► at all this is this is great so battery [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► life huge thumbs up the performance of [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► things like you know reviewing images [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► quickly to make sure like you got the [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► focus right and everything it is way [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► faster than it was it also has a pretty [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► good feature we're in a seventh this is [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► this is really nitpicky and no one who [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► doesn't own this believe [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► care but quickly this is a pretty big [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► upgrade the a7 r2 if you would try to do [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► something while it was writing to the [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► card it would say operation not [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► available for a lot of things that you [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► try to do this wooden doesn't do that [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► anymore that's a huge so like that's [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► like a big waiting point from a seven or [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► two that is gone in a seven are three so [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► anyway stuff like that if there's [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► there's a number of big and small [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► improvements that remove tons of [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► friction and annoyances from this camera [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► that that wood that were there in the a7 [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► r2 and these are seven or two is an [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► awesome camera already like so to be [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► able to improve on its so substantially [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► in only I think two years from the [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► original release like that's pretty good [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► so very very happy at the moment I [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► really have no major complaints about it [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► did they change the interface the the [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► horrible as far as I'm concerned [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► like menu system interface the Sony [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► thing oh yeah it changed it from one [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► disaster to another so it's a it's a [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► lateral move it's it's different I don't [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► think it's better but it is different so [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► I had to learn where to find things all [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► over again was that under the suitcase [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► on screen 7 yeah it looks like they [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► added that a little joystick to the back [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► of it too for like focus moving and [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► stuff yes I don't really use that very [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► often but it is nice when you need it [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► I've ever replaced the weird Sony af/mf [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► switch with a switch with a button in [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► the middle of it that's gone oh yeah the [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► weird yeah the DMF thing that's now [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► that's in the menu somewhere I don't [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► know it's I usually keep it in [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► continuous focus and I used that middle [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► button for I odo focus you ever use iota [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► focus is that on this I always use I [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► autofocus that's one of the things that [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► makes the focus engine so awesome on [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► this do what button do you have that [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► assigned to I just have it on all the [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► time least on my camera I think it's a [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► bunny I've decided to I know they [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► upgraded it in some way for this I [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► wasn't I never used it on the two so I [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► don't know if it's that different in [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► that way but yeah the eye priority [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► autofocus is great and and I use it [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► frequently it's because I'm my camera [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► you do it half button-down it will never [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► do I autofocus you have to press another [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► button that you assigned to be idle [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► focus and then the little green square [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► zooms right it on their eyeball [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► you know it's doing it like you get the [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► tiny little green square yeah baby I'm [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► not doing it face thing because there's [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► face priority autofocus I have that [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► always enabled them but there might be a [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► different thing [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► yeah the focus you'll know you're doing [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► it because it makes the the green focus [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► rectangle literally the size of the like [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► their iris and it just pin pinned onto [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► their iris alright I'll play with it [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► because I guess you get like the whole [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► face as the green rectangle yeah the [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► reason I bring it up is because I used [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► that middle they used that button in the [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► middle of the af/mf switch to be my eye [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► autofocus which cuz it's like a thumb [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► thing but now with that button gone [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► number place but the joystick I'm not [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► sure what I'd press although you have [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► those programmable buttons like yeah [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► there's there's like six different [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► buttons you can program to do whatever [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► you want so it's there's you definitely [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► have options also one thing with the [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► battery life being so much better it [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► allows me to turn on features that the [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► a7 r2 had but that I didn't use because [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► it would kill the battery more so one [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► example of that is I believe it's called [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► pre AF where like that kind of tries to [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► keep auto focus in a in a reasonably [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► ready state before you actually push the [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► button halfway down like just as you're [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► looking around in through the viewfinder [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► that I can now leave on because the [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► battery is not so bad that you have to [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► like turn off half the features to [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► conserve battery life and that's Prius [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► Wow that's fine yeah did you did they [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► make the the grip figure on the body to [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► like the little part you grab with your [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► right hand is it like poke out from the [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► camera more I no longer have the two so [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► I can't do a side-by-side comparison but [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► the whole camera body got slightly [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► deeper so maybe oh like the overall grip [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► on it might be slightly bigger but it's [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► not a it's not a huge difference it's [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► right affair where they put the two and [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► a half times this big battery like the [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► batteries in that grip like the part [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► where you hold it so the hole where the [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► battery goes has to be bigger so maybe [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► the grip is bigger I think that's why [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► the whole body is bigger honestly it's [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► it's mostly too for the others also now [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► a dual card slots the cards have the [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► bottom card has UHS - it has like the [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► whole extra row terminals so does the [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► iMac Pro card reader so that's way [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► faster now the camera also has USB 3 and [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► it has both a micro USB and a USB C port [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► either [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► which can be used to power the computer [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► to power the camera charge the battery [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► and transfer photos that's nice USB CN [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► cameras I dream every time you look in [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► that terrible microUSB whatever that [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► connector is it always feels like it's [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► broken and you have to stare out for 10 [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► minutes to make sure you before you try [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► to jam it in [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► yep that's a big that's that's a big [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► like quality of life improvement and and [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► like just a having the camera be able to [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► charge yourself over USB which the two [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► could do but canons can't that's I love [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► that feature alone cuz that means for [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► you know most places you would bring it [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► you don't have to bring a separate [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► battery charger unless you really need [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► like super fast charging wild one [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► batteries in use but you know if you now [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► hold on I think you're under playing [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► this even with your amount of enthusiasm [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► my beloved and I love this camera my [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► Olympus om-d am has an external battery [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► charger that is not terribly small and [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► the cable is not terribly conducive to [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► being wrapped up cleanly and nicely it [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► drives me insane and I would give almost [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► anything to be able to charge the [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► battery within the camera itself that [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► that in and of itself would make me give [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► all of my money to Sony or you know [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► Olympus or what have you so I could be [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► so I could charge the stupid batteries [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► in the camera that's tremendous most [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► Sony's offer that feature whether we [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► including John's I believe right yeah [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► but before you say that though you [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► should consider what like I don't know [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► who came up with this design it really [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► wasn't Sony but anyone who has a camera [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► fancy or otherwise probably familiar [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► with the idea of a panel somewhere on [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► your camera probably with like a [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► fingernail Ridge on it that they expect [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► you to like disengage somehow and then [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► it just swings out of the way on this [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► flimsy single pivot and hopefully [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► doesn't crack off like the doors you [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► have to move to get and the USB things [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► are like the worst design flimsiest most [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► terrifying they're going to snap off of [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► my $3,000 camera in two seconds if I'm [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► not careful doors and it doesn't have to [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► be that way like it's possible to make a [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► sturdy door covering a bunch of ports [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► but cameras don't they they do like [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► literally the I was like by how little [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► material can we attach this flimsy [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► plastic door to our camera can we do it [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► by like us like a human hair then do [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► that and [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► and and then you can't quite sewing them [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► totally out of the way I'll tell you [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► what though I've never had one break [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► I know because everyone is super careful [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► with them you treats them with kid [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► gloves like oh this looks delicate so [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► you're super careful with it the one on [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► my camera is actually not that bad it [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► actually slides like back and then out [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► and it's almost like a double hinged [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► thing but I see the picture of the a7r [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► three it's good three giant flimsy [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► they're all doors all connected at one [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► point all which partially block the [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► ports unless you like twist them like [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► 720 degrees around like rotate them out [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► of the way until you find the position [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► where they're not blocking in the ports [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► I really wish they would fix that [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► remember I'm not asking for waterproof [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► cameras here I'm just saying like make [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► the doors a little bit more a little bit [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► more sturdy to match the rest of the [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► camera looks pretty rugged like but [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► those those doors no good Wow well I [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► wish you didn't like this camera as much [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► as you do markers I was hoping you'd be [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► like oh no it's still no good I go back [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► to my Canon because now I want this [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► camera it cost too much money I mean [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► that would be funnier on the show if I [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► did that but unfortunately I don't I [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► don't see it happening I'm I'm just so [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► much happier with like as I said like [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► the a7 r2 was such a great camera but [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► just was let down by a few of its you [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► know lacking technologies or choices and [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► this one fixes them all so it's it's [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► really good [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► you were pessimistic about it too by the [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► way when the camera came out like oh no [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► one had gotten to test it yeah you were [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► like oh no it's probably not gonna be [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► that great maybe the battery life's [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► better but whatever but I won't because [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► we had and we had an ASCII TP question [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► like three four months ago when it came [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► out from somebody saying am I gonna get [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► it and and it's yeah at the time I said [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► like I'll see what the reviews say but I [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► don't think it would be a better enough [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► battery or better enough performance to [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► make it worth it and then all the all [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► the early reviews were so glowing and [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► positive especially on those two fronts [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► that and actually what made me get it [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► was one of the reviews that said the [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► little nitpicky thing I said earlier [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► where like you can keep navigating menus [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► while it's writing to the card as soon [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► as I read that I'm like oh my god [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► huge difference buying it have you tried [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► the insane frame rate for the burst [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► photos anything no I don't I don't [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► usually do high-speed burst I think you [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► can go up to like 10 frames a second [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► something like that it goes way higher [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► than you [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► really want it too like the iPhone goes [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► pretty insanely high too but like you [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► know I'd do lots of burst photos so do [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► action photos like you know at the ocean [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► during occasion I don't think I've ever [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► gone above the mid setting which is like [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► half of the rate that my camera is able [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► to do and I think this one is able to [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► it's you practically take like slow-mo [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► movies with the number of frames for a [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► second it's it's pretty ridiculous [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► yeah I don't like the iPhone you don't [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► have like keep only one frame from the [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► burst you have to sort through all nine [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► hundred photos you just took by holding [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► down the shutter button for three [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► seconds and every one of them's like a [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► 45 megabyte Raphael that takes Lightroom [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► like 10 seconds to burst burst photos [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► especially at the highest speed or it's [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► like a like a stress test for your [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► ability to do pics from your own photos [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► right because you have to go through [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► like a hundred pictures all of which are [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► nearly identical to each other and [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► decide to want this one and that one [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► this one or that one there's no like [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► they're practically identical the two [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► pixels different which one do I delete [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► it's lots of fun [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► yeah I have rarely found bursts [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► worthwhile I used to like back when I [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► was like when I was in like earlier in [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► my photography hobby like you know 5 10 [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► years ago I would I would I kept it in [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► continuous shooting mode and would [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► frequently shoot like a 3 or 4 picture [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► burst or whatever I was getting and that [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► would be over about a second [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► but over time why I first of all I just [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► kind of got better at timing it and so I [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► didn't need the bursts as much but also [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► I realized like I was never it was never [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► worth the time or the storage overhead [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► or the processing overhead you know I [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► wasn't getting enough out of it so I [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► just switched to single shot most of the [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► time and it's totally fine well for [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► sports you still need a burst like [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► that's what I'm using people are in [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► motion playing a sport or running or you [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► know jumping in the ocean waves bursts [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► is the way to go because this is just no [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► other way to get the shot that you want [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► but get burst is that knowing is [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► anything for situations where people are [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► not performing a sport because if you [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► end up like with three pictures of [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► everybody yeah yeah burst makes a lot of [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► sense for like for like pros or people [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► shooting soccer or pros shooting soccer [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► but yeah my family is not that high [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► motion I would recommend it even if you [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► know people like playing badminton in [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► the backyard of the family gathering try [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► it burst for those things [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► for people doing sports if they're [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► performing a motion like they're you [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► know swatting it the little birdy thing [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► or they're hitting a volleyball or [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► blocking a jump shot even just the burst [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► of three or four you know usually all of [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► them are crap but every once in a while [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► one of them is good and you realize if I [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► had taken a single shot the odds of me [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► getting that one or good so when people [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► are in motion in very bright sunlight [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► obviously you know you use that a that [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► sport preset on your Sony camera that [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► you know cranks down the the shutter [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► speed and turn on burst mode not on the [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► high setting because then you'll get [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► like every hair moving on their body but [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► just on the you know on the mid or low [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► setting to get a couple of choices [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► that's how I've gotten most of my good [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► oh Sh in pictures because you're in [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► waist deep in the ocean and waves are [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► crashing on people you need a couple you [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► need a burst to get anything good out of [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► that and you know very often both ends [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► of the burst they're garbage so you're [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► like boy it's a good thing it's a good [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► thing I got that middle part there if I [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► had just put the shutter down when I [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► thought it was happening you got one [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► picture odds of it being good or very [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► small nostalgia knowing the chat [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► suggests maybe you could binary search [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► through the burst all right start in the [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► middle is what I want before and after [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► there's a problem is the judgment the [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► problem is the judgment the judgment [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► call like you will get down to sort of [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► more or less the portion of the pose [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► that you want but then you will have [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► five pictures to choose from that if you [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► had to put them side by side you'd be [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► hard-pressed to say are these the same [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► picture or are they different yeah I [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► think if you're getting that little [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► variation then either your frame rate is [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► too high or you don't need to be [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► shooting bursts as long as I don't go [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► above mid because these things the [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► framer I forget what it is it think it's [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► like is is it like 40 or 60 I don't know [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► it I know a stir then the the aim-9 is [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► the sport oriented model that one I [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► think can go faster [TS]