The Accidental Tech Podcast

01:00:00 ◼   ► I have this vision of something that [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► aesthetically looks vaguely like image [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► capture where it's basically like a big [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► table of here's a little preview of the [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► image here's maybe a couple pieces of [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► data about it and then here's where we [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► think it should end up do you want to [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► commit all these changes or like tweak a [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► couple things and then there'll be [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► basically the Big Green Go button [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► that'll actually do it whereas right now [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► it just goes immediately and it's [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► copying it's not moving so in theory [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► it's non-destructive but it would be [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► nice to be able to say oh actually that [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► definitely is not right let's tweak that [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► you know what I mean and so who knows [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► maybe in my copious spare time I'll be [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► able to write my first Mac GUI app we'll [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► see but I'll tell you one thing that is [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► ten thousand times more work than making [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► like the shell script version oh yes [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► like like I I've had similar thoughts [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► about you know I should really like [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► polish up sidetrack and and make a [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► little gooey forest people can like drag [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► in their files and take like which [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► channel should go where and output this [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► the you know undrafted files whatever [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► and it like even that that's just like [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► especially like now I don't know like [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► from forecast and like it's it's so much [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► work it like gooeys are so much harder [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► to make and like and especially like [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► it's one thing if you just want a GUI [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► but if you want a good one [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► that's very differently if you want like [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► a nice Mac app or even like a passably [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► decent Mac app like forecast is not a [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► nice Mac app it's it's at best like an [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► okay passable back app but that's fine [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► you know that's you know that I don't [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► it's not worth investing you know tons [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► and tons of my time into it to make it [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► like a great Mac app you know what [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► you're talking about like that's that's [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► a pretty dramatic increase in the [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► workload for this per 100 percent yeah [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► yeah and especially especially if you [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► don't really need the GUI like this was [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► like sidetrack I don't need the GUI for [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► sidetrack I call it in my in my giant [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► shell scripts that process my site in my [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► podcasts and you know someone like Jason [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► Snell uses it and he I believe he made a [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► automated workflow to use it so he can [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► use it kind of kind of in a graphical [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► way at least but like a lot like I just [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► use it through shell scripts so I don't [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► need it so what like it's one of the [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► things I would love to do it someday but [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► I'm probably never going to because it's [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► probably not worth it you know this is [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► the kind of thing like if you don't need [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► this GUI you're talking about like now [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► taking this nice [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► small but you know script basically that [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► works great for you now you're talking [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► about making into a product basically [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► like you're talking about the amount of [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► work necessary to make it into a product [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► for lots of people and then you have to [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► deal with you know do you want to [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► release that because it once you put in [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► all that much of work you probably might [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► as well release it then it's a big thing [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► then you got to support it or even if [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► it's not even if it's free or even as [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► open-source you still got to deal with [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► people's you know emails and questions [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► and pull requests if it's open source [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► and everything like you it basically [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► dramatically broadens the scope of this [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► project from a shell script that works [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► for you to this product basically yeah [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► and I agree with you I think the thing [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► is though that if even if I GUI if I'd [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► it if you will it would be the world's [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► most ugly user interface because it [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► would be intended just for me and at [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► most I suspect I would open-source it [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► like I'm not saying I'm going to but I'm [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► saying with this hypothetical GUI on top [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► of it maybe I would open-source it but I [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► don't think I would ever like properly [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► release it but to that end you're still [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► right like I would then feel guilty [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► about ignoring all the pull requests [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► that I would end up ignoring and I would [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► be I would feel guilty about ignoring [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► all the issues I'd be ignoring no matter [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► how much I said this is really made just [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► for me and it's not intended for anyone [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► else to use it inevitably somebody else [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► would be like oh I should use this but [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► now I want something new you know and or [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► it didn't work on this one file right [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► exactly exactly so this is why I don't [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► mean this in like a I don't mean to be [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► like an antagonist I don't mean to be [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► antagonistic about it just these are all [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► the reasons why I don't plan to release [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► it because no matter how much I caveat [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► no matter how much I say look this was [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► written just for me this code I know [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► it's garbage but I was it was quick and [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► dirty just get it to work like no matter [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► how much you say that nobody ever really [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► and truly understands it and so it's [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► just a it's just a waste of time to [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► release this in any capacity even with a [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► GUI but and the plus side though that [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► means it could be the world's ugliest [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► world's worst GUI and it would be okay [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► because it would be literally just for [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► me like github has changed just a little [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► bit introduced and very important modern [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► developer skill which is the ability to [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► put source code up on [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► on github and your under your github [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► account and then feel zero guilts for [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► ignoring it for the only reason you're [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► putting it there is to have a convenient [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► storage place so when you need to get [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► that shell script on some new Mac that [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► you're setting up for we're like [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► basically using github as hosting and as [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► version control for yourself and hosting [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► for yourself and with no intention of [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► ever looking at the issues or ever [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► answering anyone's questions about [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► anything or caring how many people [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► forked or like because I see a lot of [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► that people have personal projects in [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► github that it's so clear that they're [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► just using it as like their their git [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► remote and communion hosting that's it [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► and I'm maybe you you know you said [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► you'd feel guilty about or whatever but [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► like I think that getting over that and [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► eventually getting the discipline to [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► reframe the problem in that way can be [TS]

01:05:10 ◼   ► slightly freeing because I think there [TS]

01:05:12 ◼   ► is a benefit to not to having that [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► source code like someplace else and to [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► have it hosted even just as a single [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► user I mean I go you can just make it [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► private like a why even make a puzzle [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► you could have and make a prep but this [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► I know this goes against what I just [TS]

01:05:25 ◼   ► said but every once in a while someone [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► will do a convenient pull request or [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► find a bug and you can just click a [TS]

01:05:30 ◼   ► button and accept their thing and your [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► program got better and you didn't have [TS]

01:05:34 ◼   ► to do anything [TS]

01:05:34 ◼   ► it may be super rare that that happens [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► maybe it's once every three years but [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► you know I don't know I I just feel like [TS]

01:05:39 ◼   ► that's a that's a good thing to be able [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► to do because I feel bad about all like [TS]

01:05:45 ◼   ► because every we all have like piles of [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► crap code like on our local computers [TS]

01:05:49 ◼   ► for various purposes and I feel bad [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► about all that I somehow I think I'd [TS]

01:05:53 ◼   ► feel better if that crap code was like [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► up on a public github page for some poor [TS]

01:05:59 ◼   ► person to stumble across and do with [TS]

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01:07:50 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

01:07:53 ◼   ► it's time to return to Marcos vinyl [TS]

01:07:56 ◼   ► corner oh no I forgot I forgot my own [TS]

01:07:58 ◼   ► joke mark was vinyl Ark so in the last [TS]

01:08:04 ◼   ► episode of Marcos vinyl Ark where I was [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► discussing you know getting this [TS]

01:08:08 ◼   ► turntable and enjoying it and he just [TS]

01:08:11 ◼   ► needed one more turntable and you will [TS]

01:08:12 ◼   ► finally arrived Oh cuz I have a [TS]

01:08:15 ◼   ► microphone you may be oversubscribed in [TS]

01:08:23 ◼   ► the microphone Department yeah anyway [TS]

01:08:29 ◼   ► part of might be appeal what I like [TS]

01:08:31 ◼   ► about it is that it is kind of the anti [TS]

01:08:34 ◼   ► technology that it you just like you put [TS]

01:08:36 ◼   ► on you manually take your hands you put [TS]

01:08:39 ◼   ► a piece of physical media on a player [TS]

01:08:42 ◼   ► that plays it in almost the most basic [TS]

01:08:46 ◼   ► analog way possible like it's it's [TS]

01:08:48 ◼   ► ridiculous how [TS]

01:08:49 ◼   ► basic this technology really is at [TS]

01:08:51 ◼   ► Hardin and how little it's really doing [TS]

01:08:53 ◼   ► and so and I really enjoyed you know not [TS]

01:08:57 ◼   ► only like the anti tech part of it of [TS]

01:08:58 ◼   ► just like being so simple and not [TS]

01:08:59 ◼   ► relying on things like crappy spotty [TS]

01:09:02 ◼   ► voice assistance not relying on Wi-Fi or [TS]

01:09:04 ◼   ► people's weird you know Network stuff or [TS]

01:09:08 ◼   ► you know services or gated communities [TS]

01:09:11 ◼   ► or whatever else just a single purpose [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► device you put music on to it and it [TS]

01:09:16 ◼   ► plays and then you get to listen to the [TS]

01:09:18 ◼   ► music and you don't get to you don't get [TS]

01:09:20 ◼   ► to like mess with the music you don't [TS]

01:09:22 ◼   ► get to like skip around super easy or [TS]

01:09:23 ◼   ► change you know speak of it you know [TS]

01:09:25 ◼   ► yell a different band name across the [TS]

01:09:27 ◼   ► room it was no different and before the [TS]

01:09:28 ◼   ► songs even finished yet like we so often [TS]

01:09:30 ◼   ► do with the echo like you have to like [TS]

01:09:32 ◼   ► sit and enjoy it slowly and and that is [TS]

01:09:35 ◼   ► there's a lot of advantages to that [TS]

01:09:37 ◼   ► builds character you might say okay but [TS]

01:09:41 ◼   ► you know as as John rightfully pointed [TS]

01:09:43 ◼   ► out you know you don't need a vinyl [TS]

01:09:45 ◼   ► player to do that you know you can you [TS]

01:09:47 ◼   ► can use like a CD play or an iPod or [TS]

01:09:51 ◼   ► cassette deck or an eight-track if those [TS]

01:09:53 ◼   ► still exist like you can use lots of [TS]

01:09:55 ◼   ► things that can only play music you know [TS]

01:09:57 ◼   ► it's in the more modern way I didn't [TS]

01:09:59 ◼   ► want to just buy an iPod because a that [TS]

01:10:01 ◼   ► that introduces too much choice again [TS]

01:10:03 ◼   ► because then it's like okay now like [TS]

01:10:04 ◼   ► part of it part of what I like about the [TS]

01:10:07 ◼   ► vinyl situation is that it forces me to [TS]

01:10:11 ◼   ► really narrow down what albums I [TS]

01:10:13 ◼   ► actually want to buy like what albums [TS]

01:10:16 ◼   ► are good enough that I actually want [TS]

01:10:17 ◼   ► this giant square sitting in a bookshelf [TS]

01:10:20 ◼   ► indefinitely yeah so so that's you know [TS]

01:10:23 ◼   ► that's that's one angle and also when I [TS]

01:10:27 ◼   ► when I when I want to place music it's [TS]

01:10:30 ◼   ► nice to have restricted choice when you [TS]

01:10:34 ◼   ► have like a cylinder you can speak into [TS]

01:10:36 ◼   ► and you can just name anything in all of [TS]

01:10:40 ◼   ► music and it will start playing that's [TS]

01:10:42 ◼   ► act you know that's nice in certain [TS]

01:10:44 ◼   ► contexts you know it's nice to be able [TS]

01:10:45 ◼   ► to just call up any song if you if you [TS]

01:10:46 ◼   ► want to hear it but if you just want to [TS]

01:10:49 ◼   ► like put something on in the background [TS]

01:10:50 ◼   ► or put something on to like listen to to [TS]

01:10:53 ◼   ► you know chill out on the couch for a [TS]

01:10:55 ◼   ► while or something I find that I'm [TS]

01:10:57 ◼   ► almost paralyzed by the choice of that [TS]

01:10:59 ◼   ► and and I often will just call up the [TS]

01:11:02 ◼   ► same things over and over [TS]

01:11:04 ◼   ► because I just can't think of anything [TS]

01:11:05 ◼   ► else you know off the top of my head you [TS]

01:11:07 ◼   ► know I don't have that kind of whatever [TS]

01:11:09 ◼   ► kind of like creativity of the mind lets [TS]

01:11:11 ◼   ► people like you know call things up or [TS]

01:11:13 ◼   ► create new ideas out of nothing I've [TS]

01:11:15 ◼   ► never really had that like I need like a [TS]

01:11:16 ◼   ► prompt you know I I joked on the show a [TS]

01:11:19 ◼   ► long time ago that I'm not a salad power [TS]

01:11:21 ◼   ► user weren't you when you go to it like [TS]

01:11:22 ◼   ► one of those Trinity salad places and [TS]

01:11:23 ◼   ► like I want a list of presets and I get [TS]

01:11:26 ◼   ► to choose from the presets and maybe do [TS]

01:11:27 ◼   ► some like customization from the salad [TS]

01:11:29 ◼   ► but I really like I just want presets to [TS]

01:11:31 ◼   ► choose from and so one thing I like also [TS]

01:11:33 ◼   ► about the final situation is that when I [TS]

01:11:36 ◼   ► want to go play something I can look [TS]

01:11:38 ◼   ► through the like you know roughly I [TS]

01:11:40 ◼   ► think I have about 20 albums now I can [TS]

01:11:42 ◼   ► look through like the 20 albums and and [TS]

01:11:43 ◼   ► just say look these are one let's do [TS]

01:11:44 ◼   ► right now by Nature they're it's all [TS]

01:11:47 ◼   ► stuff I like you know because we bought [TS]

01:11:49 ◼   ► them so like it's not like I don't have [TS]

01:11:51 ◼   ► to look through every artist ever in the [TS]

01:11:52 ◼   ► history of the world I can I'm already [TS]

01:11:54 ◼   ► looking at stuff I like and I'd be fine [TS]

01:11:57 ◼   ► putting them pretty much any of them and [TS]

01:11:58 ◼   ► you know I'll see what I'm like oh yeah [TS]

01:12:00 ◼   ► let's put on that one but I wouldn't [TS]

01:12:02 ◼   ► have thought to call it up if I if I [TS]

01:12:04 ◼   ► were just given a prompt by voice and I [TS]

01:12:05 ◼   ► go what do you want to listen to I don't [TS]

01:12:06 ◼   ► know so that part's nice as well the [TS]

01:12:09 ◼   ► system is gonna fall apart when you've [TS]

01:12:11 ◼   ► purchased your first 7,000 albums have a [TS]

01:12:14 ◼   ► section of your stacks and stacks of [TS]

01:12:17 ◼   ► them and now you've just recreated your [TS]

01:12:19 ◼   ► iPod in physical form right okay so [TS]

01:12:22 ◼   ► anyway the thing like you know remember [TS]

01:12:25 ◼   ► record collections when we were when I [TS]

01:12:27 ◼   ► was a kid and maybe you remembered well [TS]

01:12:28 ◼   ► like people would fill their houses with [TS]

01:12:29 ◼   ► these things yeah my dad has one yeah in [TS]

01:12:32 ◼   ► fact we we actually we didn't in my in [TS]

01:12:34 ◼   ► my house growing up we had our upstairs [TS]

01:12:36 ◼   ► was it was just like the the three [TS]

01:12:39 ◼   ► bedrooms in the bathroom arranged like [TS]

01:12:40 ◼   ► basically in a giant square with like a [TS]

01:12:42 ◼   ► little tiny like hexagonal hallway in [TS]

01:12:44 ◼   ► the middle that it wasn't even like a [TS]

01:12:46 ◼   ► long hallway it was like a little like [TS]

01:12:47 ◼   ► hexagonal landing basically with like a [TS]

01:12:49 ◼   ► door to each of the rooms and that's it [TS]

01:12:51 ◼   ► and there was nowhere in the house where [TS]

01:12:53 ◼   ► my mom could store her massive record [TS]

01:12:55 ◼   ► collection so in that tiny little [TS]

01:12:57 ◼   ► hallway were just like for like like [TS]

01:13:00 ◼   ► milk crate type baskets filled with [TS]

01:13:04 ◼   ► records and so basically my entire [TS]

01:13:05 ◼   ► childhood growing up I would all the [TS]

01:13:08 ◼   ► time [TS]

01:13:08 ◼   ► stub my toe on these giant boxes of [TS]

01:13:11 ◼   ► vinyl that were sitting in in the [TS]

01:13:13 ◼   ► hallway to our house that I walked [TS]

01:13:14 ◼   ► through constantly it was like squeeze [TS]

01:13:16 ◼   ► between two of them to walk into [TS]

01:13:17 ◼   ► door in my bedroom like yeah big pain in [TS]

01:13:21 ◼   ► the butt anyway [TS]

01:13:23 ◼   ► I'm really enjoying the vinyl however [TS]

01:13:24 ◼   ► there are a couple of limitations [TS]

01:13:26 ◼   ► obviously one of them as John mentioned [TS]

01:13:28 ◼   ► before is that you get like five minutes [TS]

01:13:30 ◼   ► of play time before it flip it over [TS]

01:13:31 ◼   ► especially on these new audiophile [TS]

01:13:33 ◼   ► masters where they take a right they [TS]

01:13:35 ◼   ► take like one album that's on if it's on [TS]

01:13:37 ◼   ► CD it's on one CD but if it's on vinyl [TS]

01:13:40 ◼   ► they split it onto four sides like - two [TS]

01:13:42 ◼   ► discs four sides each one with like [TS]

01:13:44 ◼   ► three songs at best so that's kind of a [TS]

01:13:48 ◼   ► pain and and that that isn't even for [TS]

01:13:50 ◼   ► length reasons like there's these giant [TS]

01:13:51 ◼   ► black gaps in the middle of anyway so [TS]

01:13:54 ◼   ► that's that's a minor pain but one of [TS]

01:13:57 ◼   ► the more you know glaring limitations of [TS]

01:13:59 ◼   ► this is that this only works for albums [TS]

01:14:02 ◼   ► that are available on vinyl and not [TS]

01:14:05 ◼   ► everything and not even just fished not [TS]

01:14:07 ◼   ► everything is available on vinyl that I [TS]

01:14:10 ◼   ► want to listen to in this fashion [TS]

01:14:11 ◼   ► I would like something that I can just [TS]

01:14:15 ◼   ► you know take some kind of physical [TS]

01:14:18 ◼   ► media that it can be in some kind of [TS]

01:14:20 ◼   ► small collection like what I have with [TS]

01:14:21 ◼   ► it with the records and put it into a [TS]

01:14:23 ◼   ► player and have it just start playing [TS]

01:14:25 ◼   ► and to remove all the abilities I have [TS]

01:14:29 ◼   ► with you know a voice assistant whose [TS]

01:14:31 ◼   ► yell across the room to have a change to [TS]

01:14:33 ◼   ► make it not that easy to even like skip [TS]

01:14:35 ◼   ► a song because I actually kind of like [TS]

01:14:37 ◼   ► being forced to listen to all the songs [TS]

01:14:38 ◼   ► that I mentioned last time like I've [TS]

01:14:41 ◼   ► always been a full album listener like I [TS]

01:14:43 ◼   ► don't I don't I don't use shuffle or [TS]

01:14:45 ◼   ► anything we always listen to fill out [TS]

01:14:46 ◼   ► obviously one thing I could do is just [TS]

01:14:48 ◼   ► get a CD player and just get CDs cuz CDs [TS]

01:14:53 ◼   ► cost nothing like if you go on Amazon [TS]

01:14:55 ◼   ► and look to buy used CDs any album you [TS]

01:14:58 ◼   ► want you can buy in a used CD for like [TS]

01:15:00 ◼   ► 50 cents plus $4 shipping so I think [TS]

01:15:02 ◼   ► they basically cost nothing and I also [TS]

01:15:06 ◼   ► put I also thought like you know there's [TS]

01:15:08 ◼   ► I also kind of want the ability to make [TS]

01:15:10 ◼   ► my own like maybe certain albums that [TS]

01:15:12 ◼   ► aren't even available on CD or like [TS]

01:15:14 ◼   ► certain like fish shows I want to like [TS]

01:15:15 ◼   ► have a whole show or so you know or like [TS]

01:15:18 ◼   ► a band like the Beatles where I like a [TS]

01:15:20 ◼   ► lot of Beatles songs but I don't like [TS]

01:15:22 ◼   ► any of their albums well enough to play [TS]

01:15:23 ◼   ► them straight through or things like the [TS]

01:15:26 ◼   ► the two Glee Mountains by The Avett [TS]

01:15:28 ◼   ► Brothers [TS]

01:15:28 ◼   ► they're both EPS I would like to have [TS]

01:15:31 ◼   ► that be one [TS]

01:15:32 ◼   ► long CD that's the length of an album [TS]

01:15:34 ◼   ► because they're really good but you know [TS]

01:15:35 ◼   ► it's two very short EPS so anyway so I [TS]

01:15:38 ◼   ► wanted some degree of customizability [TS]

01:15:39 ◼   ► physical media and a way to play it [TS]

01:15:42 ◼   ► where I could literally just put it in [TS]

01:15:43 ◼   ► not navigate any menus of anything not [TS]

01:15:46 ◼   ► even have like the TV on in living room [TS]

01:15:49 ◼   ► just put it in and it can start playing [TS]

01:15:51 ◼   ► and I can walk away [TS]

01:15:53 ◼   ► so again CDs I think are the most [TS]

01:15:56 ◼   ► obvious solution to this these days any [TS]

01:15:58 ◼   ► CD player that you can find that's at [TS]

01:16:01 ◼   ► all reasonable will also be able to play [TS]

01:16:03 ◼   ► mp3 CDs and so that that blows through [TS]

01:16:05 ◼   ► any kind of length limit you might be [TS]

01:16:06 ◼   ► worried about with single discs the [TS]

01:16:08 ◼   ► downside of CDs is that then I would [TS]

01:16:11 ◼   ► have to have a CD burner on my computer [TS]

01:16:13 ◼   ► all the time like I have to like get out [TS]

01:16:14 ◼   ► a CD burner out of my closet and like [TS]

01:16:16 ◼   ► plug it in and deal with that whenever I [TS]

01:16:18 ◼   ► wanted to create a new one of these so I [TS]

01:16:20 ◼   ► want to see if I could do better in the [TS]

01:16:23 ◼   ► last segment that we talked about this a [TS]

01:16:25 ◼   ► few weeks ago I jokingly said why don't [TS]

01:16:27 ◼   ► I just get something that can play songs [TS]

01:16:29 ◼   ► off of an SD card wouldn't it be cool to [TS]

01:16:31 ◼   ► have like a little box full of SD cards [TS]

01:16:34 ◼   ► because and you can make them like tiny [TS]

01:16:37 ◼   ► little record albums like you could and [TS]

01:16:39 ◼   ► I and so basically I decided [TS]

01:16:42 ◼   ► let me try to actually make something [TS]

01:16:44 ◼   ► that does this there's this entire world [TS]

01:16:47 ◼   ► out there that I have not yet taken part [TS]

01:16:50 ◼   ► in of really small really inexpensive [TS]

01:16:54 ◼   ► hobbyist computer gear led by things [TS]

01:16:56 ◼   ► like the Arduino and Raspberry Pi [TS]

01:16:57 ◼   ► projects and the the more basic stuff [TS]

01:17:00 ◼   ► like the Arduino base stuff I haven't [TS]

01:17:02 ◼   ► used any of it before but like once you [TS]

01:17:04 ◼   ► get into things like wiring things on [TS]

01:17:06 ◼   ► bread boards this is beyond my level of [TS]

01:17:08 ◼   ► expertise and and my level of interest [TS]

01:17:10 ◼   ► honestly I don't really want to get into [TS]

01:17:13 ◼   ► the hardware manipulation side of things [TS]

01:17:16 ◼   ► for the most part like anything that [TS]

01:17:18 ◼   ► involves like you know putting resistors [TS]

01:17:19 ◼   ► on soldering anything or using you know [TS]

01:17:21 ◼   ► little does a little waffle board [TS]

01:17:22 ◼   ► breadboard things like I don't that's [TS]

01:17:25 ◼   ► not for me right now [TS]

01:17:26 ◼   ► the Raspberry Pi on the other hand has a [TS]

01:17:28 ◼   ► bunch of really interesting stuff that [TS]

01:17:30 ◼   ► until I started looking at this I really [TS]

01:17:32 ◼   ► didn't realize quite how much stuff [TS]

01:17:34 ◼   ► there was quite how easy it was to use [TS]

01:17:36 ◼   ► and quite how little at all cost okay [TS]

01:17:39 ◼   ► again like I mentioned before like in [TS]

01:17:41 ◼   ► the Apple ecosystem it's kind of like if [TS]

01:17:43 ◼   ► we spend too much time in Apple world [TS]

01:17:45 ◼   ► it's easy to to miss or to not be aware [TS]

01:17:47 ◼   ► of quite how cheap everything else is [TS]

01:17:51 ◼   ► everywhere else like what you can get [TS]

01:17:53 ◼   ► for like under $50 for almost any type [TS]

01:17:57 ◼   ► of category that's not by Apple like [TS]

01:17:59 ◼   ► it's it's pretty remarkable so I decided [TS]

01:18:02 ◼   ► I'm gonna get a Raspberry Pi and I'm [TS]

01:18:04 ◼   ► gonna try to build an SD card audio [TS]

01:18:05 ◼   ► player I ordered the Raspberry Pi I got [TS]

01:18:08 ◼   ► like the I mean and they're seconds [TS]

01:18:09 ◼   ► there's tons of different ones the [TS]

01:18:11 ◼   ► smallest one is like 10 dollars like [TS]

01:18:13 ◼   ► it's it's ridiculous what you can get I [TS]

01:18:15 ◼   ► got like the the kind of regular one [TS]

01:18:17 ◼   ► which the board is about I think $35 and [TS]

01:18:20 ◼   ► I got a little plastic case for if like [TS]

01:18:21 ◼   ► another ten and a little USB power [TS]

01:18:23 ◼   ► supply for another you know five or ten [TS]

01:18:25 ◼   ► or whatever and it's just a Linux [TS]

01:18:28 ◼   ► computer like it's a little tiny Linux [TS]

01:18:29 ◼   ► computer with a remarkable amount of [TS]

01:18:32 ◼   ► hardware and power like it had for as [TS]

01:18:35 ◼   ► for USB ports HDMI out audio out and [TS]

01:18:39 ◼   ► like in composite video if you need that [TS]

01:18:41 ◼   ► for some reason and Wi-Fi and Ethernet [TS]

01:18:43 ◼   ► all of that and one gig of ram and a [TS]

01:18:46 ◼   ► pretty decent ARM processor all with a [TS]

01:18:49 ◼   ► with an SD card that came with it in [TS]

01:18:51 ◼   ► this bundle package with a micro SD card [TS]

01:18:54 ◼   ► that you know has a pre-loaded [TS]

01:18:55 ◼   ► installation of raspbian it's like yeah [TS]

01:19:00 ◼   ► it's like the the debian variant I think [TS]

01:19:01 ◼   ► of for Raspberry Pi you plug it in and [TS]

01:19:04 ◼   ► like I floated this little tiny HDMI [TS]

01:19:06 ◼   ► monitor I got for my video my fail a [TS]

01:19:08 ◼   ► video career and you plug it you plug in [TS]

01:19:10 ◼   ► any keyboard mouse an HDMI monitor and [TS]

01:19:12 ◼   ► it it comes pre-configured like the SD [TS]

01:19:16 ◼   ► card has like you launch it the first [TS]

01:19:18 ◼   ► time and it shows you a GUI you can [TS]

01:19:20 ◼   ► navigate with the mouse you put into it [TS]

01:19:21 ◼   ► and it's like alright pick your [TS]

01:19:22 ◼   ► distribution and we'll install it for [TS]

01:19:24 ◼   ► you [TS]

01:19:24 ◼   ► and you pick whatever it is you plug [TS]

01:19:26 ◼   ► into the network and it downloads the [TS]

01:19:28 ◼   ► distribution with your settings you give [TS]

01:19:30 ◼   ► it your Wi-Fi password during setup and [TS]

01:19:32 ◼   ► then it overwrites itself with the [TS]

01:19:35 ◼   ► distribution that you just picked with [TS]

01:19:36 ◼   ► the Wi-Fi pre-configured like it's it's [TS]

01:19:38 ◼   ► shocking like how good this is and how [TS]

01:19:40 ◼   ► really relatively easy it is to use and [TS]

01:19:43 ◼   ► then I had a Linux computer that was [TS]

01:19:46 ◼   ► ready to go and we're with built-in [TS]

01:19:48 ◼   ► audio built a networking built in USB [TS]

01:19:50 ◼   ► for me to do whatever I wanted with so I [TS]

01:19:52 ◼   ► poked around you know one of the things [TS]

01:19:54 ◼   ► with audio playback that is important to [TS]

01:19:57 ◼   ► me is gapless playback [TS]

01:19:58 ◼   ► so I can't just do like a shell script [TS]

01:20:00 ◼   ► that just like you know calls like [TS]

01:20:01 ◼   ► something like a terminal thing that [TS]

01:20:03 ◼   ► just plays audio synchronously and then [TS]

01:20:05 ◼   ► stops and then goes to the next track [TS]

01:20:07 ◼   ► I want a gapless playback between tracks [TS]

01:20:09 ◼   ► because a lot of the album's I listen to [TS]

01:20:10 ◼   ► our live albums or they have transitions [TS]

01:20:13 ◼   ► between songs and so a gap between [TS]

01:20:15 ◼   ► everything is you know just kind of it's [TS]

01:20:17 ◼   ► jarring and it's kind of you know [TS]

01:20:19 ◼   ► inelegant and so I want a gapless and it [TS]

01:20:22 ◼   ► turns out there's this great music [TS]

01:20:23 ◼   ► player that's been around forever that [TS]

01:20:25 ◼   ► of course I never knew about because [TS]

01:20:26 ◼   ► I've been in Apple land called MPD music [TS]

01:20:28 ◼   ► player daemon and it does gapless like [TS]

01:20:31 ◼   ► with all with no effort like this stuff [TS]

01:20:33 ◼   ► like this software is really advanced [TS]

01:20:36 ◼   ► idea and it the the Raspberry Pi has an [TS]

01:20:41 ◼   ► SD a microSD slot but that's for its [TS]

01:20:43 ◼   ► disk you can't really use it for [TS]

01:20:44 ◼   ► anything else it has to boot off of that [TS]

01:20:46 ◼   ► so I had to add my own card reader but I [TS]

01:20:49 ◼   ► had like a drawer full of card readers [TS]

01:20:50 ◼   ► and it's I made a shell script that [TS]

01:20:52 ◼   ► would respond to the card being inserted [TS]

01:20:55 ◼   ► via you dev it copies any audio files [TS]

01:20:59 ◼   ► off of that card into a temp directory [TS]

01:21:00 ◼   ► and as it's copying it starts playing [TS]

01:21:03 ◼   ► the first one so it's fast response to [TS]

01:21:05 ◼   ► time and then it unmount the card and if [TS]

01:21:08 ◼   ► you remove the card it stops I gotta say [TS]

01:21:12 ◼   ► it took not that much effort and it [TS]

01:21:15 ◼   ► pretty much works and there's a couple [TS]

01:21:18 ◼   ► of things I did with it that I do want [TS]

01:21:19 ◼   ► to want to touch on but it's kind of [TS]

01:21:22 ◼   ► Awesome like I wish I had like it now [TS]

01:21:25 ◼   ► now I'm just like brainstorming like I [TS]

01:21:26 ◼   ► wish I had more things that I needed [TS]

01:21:28 ◼   ► raspberry pies for because I can't [TS]

01:21:31 ◼   ► believe how good and how easy it is to [TS]

01:21:35 ◼   ► use this stuff and how cheap it all was [TS]

01:21:37 ◼   ► like it kind of ignited in me this like [TS]

01:21:40 ◼   ► this this satisfaction and happiness [TS]

01:21:43 ◼   ► that like oh my god I just made this [TS]

01:21:44 ◼   ► awesome little computer do this crazy [TS]

01:21:46 ◼   ► cool thing that I that I've wanted you [TS]

01:21:49 ◼   ► know it's similar to you know we [TS]

01:21:51 ◼   ► mentioned the earlier like the [TS]

01:21:51 ◼   ► satisfaction of being a programmer me [TS]

01:21:53 ◼   ► being a but I have a computer solve a [TS]

01:21:54 ◼   ► problem for you by writing a script or [TS]

01:21:55 ◼   ► something to do it this this was like [TS]

01:21:57 ◼   ► the hardware version of that like I [TS]

01:21:58 ◼   ► wanted a little SD card player to play [TS]

01:22:01 ◼   ► audio and then in a very simple way and [TS]

01:22:04 ◼   ► I just made one and it wasn't that hard [TS]

01:22:06 ◼   ► because I don't know how to use Linux [TS]

01:22:07 ◼   ► and it like it was really so satisfying [TS]

01:22:12 ◼   ► and such a fun little project you know [TS]

01:22:15 ◼   ► we don't get a lot of fun in the Apple [TS]

01:22:17 ◼   ► world like we got some cool stuff and [TS]

01:22:19 ◼   ► but like they they're not they're not so [TS]

01:22:20 ◼   ► big on fun this is just like a fun [TS]

01:22:23 ◼   ► little thing and it was really nice to [TS]

01:22:24 ◼   ► do very satisfying and I'm just so [TS]

01:22:28 ◼   ► thankful to the world of Linux and open [TS]

01:22:30 ◼   ► source software and these amazing [TS]

01:22:32 ◼   ► hobbyist things like Raspberry Pi and I [TS]

01:22:34 ◼   ► even like I even later spend another $30 [TS]

01:22:37 ◼   ► to upgrade the the audio interface in it [TS]

01:22:40 ◼   ► with this company called hifiberry that [TS]

01:22:42 ◼   ► just makes a variety of audio i/o boards [TS]

01:22:45 ◼   ► that just stick right on top of the [TS]

01:22:47 ◼   ► Raspberry Pi using the big the big like [TS]

01:22:48 ◼   ► IO header that's that's on it and they [TS]

01:22:51 ◼   ► sell their own little cases that are a [TS]

01:22:52 ◼   ► little bit taller that fit it it's [TS]

01:22:54 ◼   ► amazing and so I made this awesome [TS]

01:22:57 ◼   ► player now there are certain things that [TS]

01:22:58 ◼   ► didn't go so well [TS]

01:23:01 ◼   ► the the idea of automatically detecting [TS]

01:23:05 ◼   ► an SD card being inserted or removed [TS]

01:23:07 ◼   ► does indeed work from you dev but [TS]

01:23:10 ◼   ► doesn't work all the time it's it [TS]

01:23:12 ◼   ► occasionally it doesn't it gets into a [TS]

01:23:14 ◼   ► state where it stops sending add and [TS]

01:23:18 ◼   ► remove events it only sends change [TS]

01:23:19 ◼   ► events so I have I have a little bit of [TS]

01:23:22 ◼   ► a tweak that I need to do there that [TS]

01:23:24 ◼   ► also seems to vary with which card [TS]

01:23:26 ◼   ► reader I'm using one of them seems to [TS]

01:23:28 ◼   ► work more reliable than the others in [TS]

01:23:29 ◼   ► this regard so I'm just sticking with [TS]

01:23:30 ◼   ► that one it's fine also the I guess [TS]

01:23:34 ◼   ► that's where the only major problem oh [TS]

01:23:35 ◼   ► the other problem is like I assumed that [TS]

01:23:37 ◼   ► it would be really easy to like go on [TS]

01:23:39 ◼   ► eBay and buy large lots of used low [TS]

01:23:43 ◼   ► capacity SD cards for very little money [TS]

01:23:45 ◼   ► because you know if you have like it's a [TS]

01:23:48 ◼   ► copy over an album for or even even if [TS]

01:23:51 ◼   ► you encode it with like a lakh or some [TS]

01:23:53 ◼   ► kind of like large or you know flack so [TS]

01:23:54 ◼   ► we had a large codec that's the only [TS]

01:23:56 ◼   ► gonna be like three hundred Meg's maybe [TS]

01:23:59 ◼   ► and so if you have like a car that's a [TS]

01:24:01 ◼   ► gig or a 512 Meg's that's enough for [TS]

01:24:04 ◼   ► this purpose like you don't need larger [TS]

01:24:05 ◼   ► cards than that so I assumed it'd be [TS]

01:24:08 ◼   ► really easy to just go online and get [TS]

01:24:09 ◼   ► like you know lots of used one gig SD [TS]

01:24:11 ◼   ► cards for like a dollar each or [TS]

01:24:12 ◼   ► something or less it turns out it's not [TS]

01:24:15 ◼   ► so easy I don't know where these all are [TS]

01:24:17 ◼   ► but they're not being sold very very [TS]

01:24:19 ◼   ► often so the best I could do is there's [TS]

01:24:23 ◼   ► a couple of vendors that sell ten pack [TS]

01:24:25 ◼   ► of 16-gig cheap cards for about $5 each [TS]

01:24:31 ◼   ► that's insane [TS]

01:24:33 ◼   ► oh my gosh that's cheap yeah exactly I [TS]

01:24:35 ◼   ► understand it's more than you need like [TS]

01:24:37 ◼   ► I totally get what you're driving at but [TS]

01:24:38 ◼   ► man that's cheap 16 gigs and you're [TS]

01:24:41 ◼   ► gonna put an albums worth of mp3 cards I [TS]

01:24:45 ◼   ► can't find smaller cards or at least or [TS]

01:24:47 ◼   ► like the smaller ones are also $5 each [TS]

01:24:50 ◼   ► so it's like well I might as well get [TS]

01:24:51 ◼   ► the 60 gig for the same price I I [TS]

01:24:54 ◼   ► continue to think that you need to take [TS]

01:24:57 ◼   ► this one step farther and put all of [TS]

01:24:59 ◼   ► your music on the internal very large SD [TS]

01:25:01 ◼   ► card that's part of the Raspberry Pi and [TS]

01:25:02 ◼   ► have the thing that you insert basically [TS]

01:25:05 ◼   ► be an amiibo like it's a series of these [TS]

01:25:12 ◼   ► little chips they don't even have to [TS]

01:25:13 ◼   ► have electronics in them they just need [TS]

01:25:15 ◼   ► to have some sort of little code that [TS]

01:25:16 ◼   ► says please play this track that you [TS]

01:25:18 ◼   ► already have on your internal SD card [TS]

01:25:19 ◼   ► that's what you need [TS]

01:25:20 ◼   ► well I bring certain other options so [TS]

01:25:22 ◼   ► you know one option would be like I [TS]

01:25:23 ◼   ► think one of the coolest options would [TS]

01:25:24 ◼   ► be you get one of the little camera [TS]

01:25:27 ◼   ► modules for it and you just show it like [TS]

01:25:29 ◼   ► a little card I'll show it your album [TS]

01:25:31 ◼   ► hold up the vinyl album to it but you [TS]

01:25:33 ◼   ► know a lot of things or things that [TS]

01:25:33 ◼   ► aren't available on final so I'm [TS]

01:25:35 ◼   ► thinking like you know you basically get [TS]

01:25:36 ◼   ► like a little like had like a little [TS]

01:25:37 ◼   ► like card file of like index cards [TS]

01:25:39 ◼   ► nergis like printed album art I just [TS]

01:25:41 ◼   ► hold it up and have it recognize it [TS]

01:25:42 ◼   ► oh wait I've got an idea how about you [TS]

01:25:44 ◼   ► just hook up a microphone then you could [TS]

01:25:46 ◼   ► say what song you wanted to play and it [TS]

01:25:48 ◼   ► would play it Wow [TS]

01:25:51 ◼   ► oh did I ruin it yep a little bit yeah [TS]

01:25:55 ◼   ► good hobby thing would like I just keep [TS]

01:25:58 ◼   ► thinking of these little cards little [TS]

01:26:01 ◼   ► cards I feel like you should maybe get [TS]

01:26:03 ◼   ► some of that spray the Nintendo uses for [TS]

01:26:05 ◼   ► the switch cartridges I'm not sure like [TS]

01:26:06 ◼   ► no small children in your house eat your [TS]

01:26:08 ◼   ► music and just think of what else you [TS]

01:26:11 ◼   ► could do with that spray I mean I know [TS]

01:26:13 ◼   ► hops isn't a cure but you know no he's [TS]

01:26:15 ◼   ► not also and so and I also considered [TS]

01:26:17 ◼   ► others so one thing I considered when I [TS]

01:26:19 ◼   ► was battling you dev for reliability and [TS]

01:26:21 ◼   ► I was thinking like oh hey maybe you [TS]

01:26:23 ◼   ► know that if the problem is that the SD [TS]

01:26:25 ◼   ► card readers aren't reliably telling you [TS]

01:26:27 ◼   ► to have sometimes when things are added [TS]

01:26:28 ◼   ► and removed maybe the solution is to [TS]

01:26:31 ◼   ► either use compact flash cards which I [TS]

01:26:34 ◼   ► didn't I didn't go down that path at [TS]

01:26:35 ◼   ► least not yet and because eventually [TS]

01:26:37 ◼   ► you'd have calmed down [TS]

01:26:38 ◼   ► but I also thought like what about cheap [TS]

01:26:40 ◼   ► little USB sticks like you know your [TS]

01:26:42 ◼   ► thumb drives and because those are their [TS]

01:26:45 ◼   ► own USB complete USB devices so they [TS]

01:26:47 ◼   ► should be more reliable at telling the [TS]

01:26:48 ◼   ► system but then you have to try to put [TS]

01:26:50 ◼   ► them in three times every time you want [TS]

01:26:51 ◼   ► exactly yeah that's that's one and also [TS]

01:26:55 ◼   ► they're just kind of ugly and clunky but [TS]

01:26:57 ◼   ► I did look and they have about the same [TS]

01:26:59 ◼   ► pricing you can get like the those kind [TS]

01:27:02 ◼   ► that you get at every conference ever [TS]

01:27:03 ◼   ► they have like the big flip around metal [TS]

01:27:05 ◼   ► cover like they like swivels around the [TS]

01:27:07 ◼   ► plastic insert like everyone's seen [TS]

01:27:10 ◼   ► these and you can get them printed with [TS]

01:27:11 ◼   ► your logo and everything those cost [TS]

01:27:13 ◼   ► about the same like a few dollars each [TS]

01:27:15 ◼   ► is roughly where your what those costs [TS]

01:27:16 ◼   ► like these are fine solutions and it [TS]

01:27:19 ◼   ► depends on how many of these cards or [TS]

01:27:20 ◼   ► things I intend to have but they're fun [TS]

01:27:23 ◼   ► you know it's I'm probably not going to [TS]

01:27:24 ◼   ► do a whole lot the other downside I [TS]

01:27:26 ◼   ► found with with the SD cards is I had [TS]

01:27:28 ◼   ► this great image in my mind of like you [TS]

01:27:30 ◼   ► know having these wonderful like little [TS]

01:27:32 ◼   ► labels I could that I could print the [TS]

01:27:34 ◼   ► album art onto a label that fits the SD [TS]

01:27:36 ◼   ► card and I'd be able to like flick [TS]

01:27:38 ◼   ► through my little like box of SD cards [TS]

01:27:40 ◼   ► and be able to look at like tiny little [TS]

01:27:42 ◼   ► versions of what the record would look [TS]

01:27:43 ◼   ► like if it was tiny and rectangular and [TS]

01:27:45 ◼   ► I even got the right size labels it [TS]

01:27:47 ◼   ► there there are point 75 by one inch and [TS]

01:27:49 ◼   ► buy and they come in sheets by Avery and [TS]

01:27:51 ◼   ► they're printable but the print quality [TS]

01:27:54 ◼   ► on them is so bad like I have an inkjet [TS]

01:27:57 ◼   ► and a laser and I tried them both and [TS]

01:27:59 ◼   ► they both look horrendous printing on [TS]

01:28:01 ◼   ► these and they're really hard to align [TS]

01:28:03 ◼   ► and oh and also when you put a label on [TS]

01:28:05 ◼   ► an SD card and then put into SD card [TS]

01:28:07 ◼   ► reader [TS]

01:28:07 ◼   ► it doesn't fit as well with the rest of [TS]

01:28:11 ◼   ► this project I feel like you should hire [TS]

01:28:13 ◼   ► some sort of artisan who lives in [TS]

01:28:14 ◼   ► Portland to use a single hairbrush to [TS]

01:28:17 ◼   ► hand paint to each one of your things [TS]

01:28:20 ◼   ► onto the SD card yeah like people do [TS]

01:28:23 ◼   ► these sculptures with with like graphite [TS]

01:28:26 ◼   ► from a pencil oh yeah absolutely yeah [TS]

01:28:28 ◼   ► thank and one of those people to do it [TS]

01:28:29 ◼   ► I'll do it for you anyway this has been [TS]

01:28:33 ◼   ► a fun project ultimately I think the [TS]

01:28:37 ◼   ► better solution to all of this is [TS]

01:28:40 ◼   ► probably just a CD burner so I'm really [TS]

01:28:46 ◼   ► I'm really glad I did it [TS]

01:28:48 ◼   ► but and it'll work sometimes but but I [TS]

01:28:51 ◼   ► think I think a CD burner is actually [TS]

01:28:54 ◼   ► the better solution to this problem [TS]

01:28:56 ◼   ► because I can put it right into my [TS]

01:28:58 ◼   ► blu-ray player and it just starts [TS]

01:29:00 ◼   ► playing and I don't need to turn the TV [TS]

01:29:01 ◼   ► on so I I like that problem gets solved [TS]

01:29:04 ◼   ► that way but the downside is I have to [TS]

01:29:06 ◼   ► have a CD burner somewhere on my desk [TS]

01:29:07 ◼   ► see but this is the same thing that I [TS]

01:29:09 ◼   ► just went through in a much different [TS]

01:29:10 ◼   ► scale like the easiest answer for me to [TS]

01:29:13 ◼   ► return that stupid dongle would be to [TS]

01:29:14 ◼   ► throw it away the second easiest answer [TS]

01:29:16 ◼   ► would have been to give it to you PS but [TS]

01:29:18 ◼   ► I wanted to try something different and [TS]

01:29:20 ◼   ► I'm actually really jealous of this even [TS]

01:29:23 ◼   ► though I think this is a truly [TS]

01:29:24 ◼   ► preposterous reason to get into the [TS]

01:29:26 ◼   ► Raspberry Pi I have been searching for a [TS]

01:29:29 ◼   ► reason to teach myself what the hell the [TS]

01:29:31 ◼   ► Raspberry Pi and Arduino are all about [TS]

01:29:33 ◼   ► and I have yet to come up with a good [TS]

01:29:35 ◼   ► reason to do it and so in that sense I'm [TS]

01:29:38 ◼   ► super jealous of what you've done [TS]

01:29:39 ◼   ► because you now know a whole bunch about [TS]

01:29:42 ◼   ► this world that I know absolutely [TS]

01:29:44 ◼   ► nothing about and I want to know about [TS]

01:29:46 ◼   ► and so I I applaud this well I mean I'll [TS]

01:29:49 ◼   ► tell you what though I think you're [TS]

01:29:50 ◼   ► overestimating what what you need to [TS]

01:29:51 ◼   ► know like I was shocked how little I [TS]

01:29:53 ◼   ► need to do like the this entire project [TS]

01:29:56 ◼   ► I've been keeping it basically in one [TS]

01:29:58 ◼   ► shell script on my desktop like one text [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► file that right now let me see it's 90 [TS]

01:30:03 ◼   ► lines to set up this entire thing that's [TS]

01:30:06 ◼   ► all it's very basic because all I'm [TS]

01:30:09 ◼   ► doing is like responding to a system [TS]

01:30:11 ◼   ► demon with a shell script when when [TS]

01:30:14 ◼   ► things are inserted and removed and [TS]

01:30:16 ◼   ► sending really simple commands to oh I [TS]

01:30:18 ◼   ► gotta go to the control aspect of it as [TS]

01:30:20 ◼   ► well the regular leak you know insert [TS]

01:30:23 ◼   ► the card it plays take out the card it [TS]

01:30:25 ◼   ► stops that's that's done it requires no [TS]

01:30:28 ◼   ► external control or anything but I did [TS]

01:30:30 ◼   ► think you know it would be nice to at [TS]

01:30:32 ◼   ► least have a play/pause button and [TS]

01:30:36 ◼   ► there's a number different ways to do [TS]

01:30:37 ◼   ► this you can get for instance you can [TS]

01:30:38 ◼   ► get buttons like actual physical buttons [TS]

01:30:41 ◼   ► that have little wires on them that you [TS]

01:30:43 ◼   ► can that have little connector on like [TS]

01:30:44 ◼   ► at that plug right into the that big IO [TS]

01:30:47 ◼   ► header on the Raspberry Pi the GPIO [TS]

01:30:50 ◼   ► header and you can run a little python [TS]

01:30:53 ◼   ► service that responds to button presses [TS]

01:30:56 ◼   ► on those buttons really simply like [TS]

01:30:58 ◼   ► that's and that's and I actually got a [TS]

01:30:59 ◼   ► little pair of buttons I ended up not [TS]

01:31:00 ◼   ► using them for [TS]

01:31:02 ◼   ► I'll get into in a minute but but that's [TS]

01:31:04 ◼   ► the thing you can do and again and a [TS]

01:31:05 ◼   ► pair of buttons is like 6 bucks like it [TS]

01:31:07 ◼   ► again I just it's so wonderful how [TS]

01:31:09 ◼   ► inexpensive and affordable the stuff is [TS]

01:31:12 ◼   ► you know I've heard a lot of people talk [TS]

01:31:14 ◼   ► about how they're used in schools where [TS]

01:31:16 ◼   ► you can like at these prices if you can [TS]

01:31:18 ◼   ► get a little computer board for $35 or [TS]

01:31:21 ◼   ► less you can get like one of the $10 [TS]

01:31:22 ◼   ► ones or you know you can outfit a whole [TS]

01:31:24 ◼   ► classroom with these things and have [TS]

01:31:26 ◼   ► students doing projects with these [TS]

01:31:28 ◼   ► things like that's incredible and and to [TS]

01:31:30 ◼   ► have it just the the amount of computing [TS]

01:31:33 ◼   ► power and flexibility and hardware that [TS]

01:31:36 ◼   ► you can get like it's a whole computer [TS]

01:31:38 ◼   ► you could a Raspberry Pi could be a [TS]

01:31:40 ◼   ► Linux computer like that you can it [TS]

01:31:42 ◼   ► could be a desktop you can plug a [TS]

01:31:43 ◼   ► monitor and key word a mouse into it and [TS]

01:31:44 ◼   ► use it as a desktop like that like it [TS]

01:31:46 ◼   ► wouldn't be the fastest desktop in the [TS]

01:31:47 ◼   ► world but it's you could still do it [TS]

01:31:49 ◼   ► like and some people do it like this [TS]

01:31:51 ◼   ► it's just incredible what you can do [TS]

01:31:53 ◼   ► with these things like I saw a Steve [TS]

01:31:54 ◼   ► trout and Smith he recently made himself [TS]

01:31:57 ◼   ► a homekit camera by using a Raspberry Pi [TS]

01:32:02 ◼   ► one of the tiny ones with the camera [TS]

01:32:04 ◼   ► module that's available for them in a [TS]

01:32:06 ◼   ► little tiny case and it's like a [TS]

01:32:08 ◼   ► security camera for his house but it's [TS]

01:32:10 ◼   ► home compatible through god knows what [TS]

01:32:12 ◼   ► and it's he and he made it I've had a [TS]

01:32:14 ◼   ► Raspberry Pi for you know probably under [TS]

01:32:15 ◼   ► $50 like that's that's just incredible [TS]

01:32:17 ◼   ► like it's to have this kind of power [TS]

01:32:20 ◼   ► available to people it's it really is [TS]

01:32:23 ◼   ► you know game-changing and I know this [TS]

01:32:25 ◼   ► is not a sudden thing I know this didn't [TS]

01:32:26 ◼   ► just begin yesterday I'm just I'm just [TS]

01:32:28 ◼   ► discovering it I'm late to it and it [TS]

01:32:31 ◼   ► just blows my mind like what's available [TS]

01:32:32 ◼   ► here and it's it's so inspiring to to [TS]

01:32:35 ◼   ► make me want to do more projects with it [TS]

01:32:37 ◼   ► and and for me and this kind of played [TS]

01:32:39 ◼   ► into earlier what I was saying about [TS]

01:32:40 ◼   ► like I wish the home pod had a line in [TS]

01:32:42 ◼   ► like as I'm like dipping my toe in this [TS]

01:32:44 ◼   ► rod just for five seconds like it's [TS]

01:32:46 ◼   ► really obvious to me like you know I [TS]

01:32:47 ◼   ► really do like things being open and I [TS]

01:32:49 ◼   ► really do I see the value in openness [TS]

01:32:54 ◼   ► and and free software and and you know [TS]

01:32:57 ◼   ► just this whole world open hardware open [TS]

01:32:59 ◼   ► software the power that be that the [TS]

01:33:02 ◼   ► technology we have today can can offer [TS]

01:33:04 ◼   ► to us if some of these walls are knocked [TS]

01:33:06 ◼   ► down we're not there in the first place [TS]

01:33:08 ◼   ► anyway one more quick thing I did I did [TS]

01:33:11 ◼   ► decide it let me let me play with you [TS]

01:33:13 ◼   ► know remote control options I [TS]

01:33:15 ◼   ► actually had do you guys know Samuel [TS]

01:33:18 ◼   ► clay and the news blur product that he [TS]

01:33:22 ◼   ► makes mmm well he did he did a [TS]

01:33:24 ◼   ► Kickstarter about I don't know maybe a [TS]

01:33:25 ◼   ► year ago for a little wooden like [TS]

01:33:28 ◼   ► Internet of Things type remote called [TS]

01:33:30 ◼   ► turn touch and I backed it and I got two [TS]

01:33:33 ◼   ► of them and it says little like [TS]

01:33:35 ◼   ► beautiful little square wooden remote [TS]

01:33:37 ◼   ► with four buttons on it it interfaces [TS]

01:33:38 ◼   ► with either I think an iOS device or in [TS]

01:33:40 ◼   ► my case I'm using my Mac Mini server to [TS]

01:33:43 ◼   ► be like the host receiver for it and you [TS]

01:33:45 ◼   ► can map these buttons to do whatever you [TS]

01:33:46 ◼   ► want I made a little interface again [TS]

01:33:49 ◼   ► using bash shell scripting I made a [TS]

01:33:51 ◼   ► little interface on the on the SD card [TS]

01:33:54 ◼   ► player that just uses netcat as like a [TS]

01:33:58 ◼   ► simple command interface that to listen [TS]

01:34:00 ◼   ► for the commands just listen for the [TS]

01:34:02 ◼   ► strings play pause next in previous and [TS]

01:34:06 ◼   ► on the Mac that's hosting the turn touch [TS]

01:34:09 ◼   ► app I mapped it to send using netcat [TS]

01:34:13 ◼   ► shell scripts to go set each of the [TS]

01:34:16 ◼   ► buttons just sends you know play pause [TS]

01:34:17 ◼   ► previous/next you know stop it was again [TS]

01:34:20 ◼   ► like a half hour maybe to get this set [TS]

01:34:22 ◼   ► up I never even had used netcat before [TS]

01:34:24 ◼   ► but I didn't even know it existed but it [TS]

01:34:27 ◼   ► did and it was super easy to seconds to [TS]

01:34:30 ◼   ► make a bash grip that was a network [TS]

01:34:33 ◼   ► service command response in everything [TS]

01:34:35 ◼   ► it's just incredible what you can do [TS]

01:34:37 ◼   ► with this stuff and if you if you have [TS]

01:34:39 ◼   ► like the the Linux chops or the shell [TS]

01:34:41 ◼   ► scripting shops I guess and so now I [TS]

01:34:43 ◼   ► have this little remote that sends basic [TS]

01:34:46 ◼   ► commands through you know through MPC to [TS]

01:34:48 ◼   ► MPD and is play pause and next track [TS]

01:34:52 ◼   ► previous track it's just amazing I [TS]

01:34:54 ◼   ► really do like this world [TS]

01:34:55 ◼   ► I don't immediately have any ideas for [TS]

01:34:58 ◼   ► what else I can do with it [TS]

01:35:00 ◼   ► but I'm gonna keep trying to come up [TS]

01:35:01 ◼   ► with some because it's just so fun as a [TS]

01:35:03 ◼   ► nerd to play with this stuff yeah this [TS]

01:35:06 ◼   ► is super cool I'm super jealous that [TS]

01:35:07 ◼   ► you've come up with all this 2018 year [TS]

01:35:10 ◼   ► of the shell script even if it's written [TS]

01:35:11 ◼   ► in Swift alright so we should do a skate [TS]

01:35:16 ◼   ► EP let's see we're starting with I will [TS]

01:35:20 ◼   ► let you pronounce this John since you [TS]

01:35:21 ◼   ► put this in show notes I'm gonna go with [TS]

01:35:24 ◼   ► Hans Chou lien wow I sound different [TS]

01:35:27 ◼   ► well done John John put this in the show [TS]

01:35:31 ◼   ► notes and the question is I want to [TS]

01:35:33 ◼   ► remove clutter and unused old files from [TS]

01:35:36 ◼   ► my system however not delete them a lot [TS]

01:35:38 ◼   ► or like the like entire unity or blender [TS]

01:35:41 ◼   ► projects I did a few years ago that I [TS]

01:35:43 ◼   ► don't really need anymore however I [TS]

01:35:44 ◼   ► don't want to just delete them because [TS]

01:35:45 ◼   ► too frequently I deleted something [TS]

01:35:47 ◼   ► ancient needed it half a year later [TS]

01:35:48 ◼   ► because of something really specific I [TS]

01:35:49 ◼   ► did there what should I do [TS]

01:35:51 ◼   ► connect to disk drive every time I want [TS]

01:35:52 ◼   ► to quote-unquote offload something burn [TS]

01:35:54 ◼   ► corrupt crap loads of DS CDs or DVDs and [TS]

01:35:56 ◼   ► pile them in a corner by a server and [TS]

01:35:57 ◼   ► put it on an SD ftp server somewhere [TS]

01:36:00 ◼   ► where I dump all those files get an ass [TS]

01:36:01 ◼   ► I'm looking for a reliable solution that [TS]

01:36:04 ◼   ► I would still have access to in 20 years [TS]

01:36:06 ◼   ► I really think just get an ass is the [TS]

01:36:09 ◼   ► easy answer this question but I'm [TS]

01:36:10 ◼   ► assuming that that you guys have other [TS]

01:36:12 ◼   ► thoughts [TS]

01:36:12 ◼   ► so since John wrote this into the show [TS]

01:36:15 ◼   ► that's Marco do you have any immediate [TS]

01:36:16 ◼   ► thoughts then we'll let John give us the [TS]

01:36:19 ◼   ► real answer to me like I've actually [TS]

01:36:21 ◼   ► recently gone through this a little bit [TS]

01:36:22 ◼   ► I mean first of all just told you a [TS]

01:36:23 ◼   ► reason why I might be having a CD burner [TS]

01:36:25 ◼   ► in my desk but I I used to burn first [TS]

01:36:29 ◼   ► DVD arse and then I got the bread the [TS]

01:36:32 ◼   ► bright idea in my head a while ago that [TS]

01:36:33 ◼   ► I should get a blu-ray burner because [TS]

01:36:34 ◼   ► that was the next thing after DVDs and I [TS]

01:36:37 ◼   ► decided oh 25 gigs per disc and then [TS]

01:36:40 ◼   ► later even more that would be great I [TS]

01:36:42 ◼   ► could I can burn an archived discs of [TS]

01:36:44 ◼   ► all my important files and have this [TS]

01:36:45 ◼   ► master set of backups in this big CD box [TS]

01:36:48 ◼   ► in the closet or you know whatever else [TS]

01:36:50 ◼   ► and I started that I did that for a [TS]

01:36:53 ◼   ► little while but it turns out 25 gigs [TS]

01:36:55 ◼   ► isn't that much anymore and even when [TS]

01:36:57 ◼   ► the the fancier like multi layer discs [TS]

01:36:59 ◼   ► came out like a couple years back even [TS]

01:37:01 ◼   ► they they're still not really enough to [TS]

01:37:04 ◼   ► be useful and turns out blu-ray burners [TS]

01:37:06 ◼   ► are finicky and they're a pain and [TS]

01:37:08 ◼   ► they're unreliable and the world of [TS]

01:37:10 ◼   ► blu-ray burning discs is unreliable [TS]

01:37:13 ◼   ► it's there's lots of different formats [TS]

01:37:16 ◼   ► the burners don't always burn them all [TS]

01:37:18 ◼   ► you know [TS]

01:37:18 ◼   ► similarly or are compatible with them so [TS]

01:37:21 ◼   ► you basically have this array of what's [TS]

01:37:24 ◼   ► really quite obscure formats the idea of [TS]

01:37:27 ◼   ► being able to read them in 20 years has [TS]

01:37:29 ◼   ► a lot has a number of problems whatever [TS]

01:37:31 ◼   ► disk format you're writing is not a [TS]

01:37:34 ◼   ► blu-ray movie it's not a blu-ray disc [TS]

01:37:36 ◼   ► and it's very possible that any drive [TS]

01:37:38 ◼   ► you can find in 20 years might [TS]

01:37:41 ◼   ► actually read that physical format the [TS]

01:37:43 ◼   ► second problem you're gonna have is that [TS]

01:37:45 ◼   ► optical discs deteriorate they are all [TS]

01:37:47 ◼   ► based on organic dyes and certain [TS]

01:37:51 ◼   ► assumptions that over time have proven [TS]

01:37:53 ◼   ► to not always be the case if you have [TS]

01:37:55 ◼   ► like even even today like we're a good [TS]

01:37:58 ◼   ► 15 years past the heyday of seedy ours [TS]

01:38:02 ◼   ► if you still have CDR is like in your [TS]

01:38:05 ◼   ► closet somewhere you might not be able [TS]

01:38:07 ◼   ► to heed them anymore like they actually [TS]

01:38:08 ◼   ► might have deteriorated to the point [TS]

01:38:09 ◼   ► where you can't read them same thing [TS]

01:38:12 ◼   ► with most DVD our DVDs were a little [TS]

01:38:13 ◼   ► better because they sandwich the organic [TS]

01:38:14 ◼   ► layer between two pieces of plastic [TS]

01:38:16 ◼   ► instead of just having it on the top the [TS]

01:38:18 ◼   ► way CDs did so it's they had a little [TS]

01:38:20 ◼   ► more protection there's still like [TS]

01:38:22 ◼   ► deterioration of the dyes than n layers [TS]

01:38:24 ◼   ► that happens and so it's very light like [TS]

01:38:27 ◼   ► the initial estimates of how long [TS]

01:38:28 ◼   ► recordable media work was supposed to [TS]

01:38:30 ◼   ► last many of them have not been achieved [TS]

01:38:31 ◼   ► and they've had to revise his estimate [TS]

01:38:33 ◼   ► so actually these don't last fifty or [TS]

01:38:36 ◼   ► hundred years or a thousand years they [TS]

01:38:37 ◼   ► actually might last like five years and [TS]

01:38:39 ◼   ► so you have reliability issues there [TS]

01:38:42 ◼   ► there actually was there's one type of [TS]

01:38:44 ◼   ► blu-ray disc called M disc that was [TS]

01:38:47 ◼   ► supposed to last for a millennium [TS]

01:38:49 ◼   ► thousand years and I actually bought it [TS]

01:38:52 ◼   ► I still have a spindle in my closet that [TS]

01:38:53 ◼   ► I bought aspirationally thinking I would [TS]

01:38:56 ◼   ► use them and I never did it's still [TS]

01:38:58 ◼   ► unopened [TS]

01:38:59 ◼   ► I threw it away last week because it [TS]

01:39:03 ◼   ► supposedly is supposed to solve this [TS]

01:39:05 ◼   ► problem but optical discs are not as [TS]

01:39:08 ◼   ► reliable and long-lasting as we think [TS]

01:39:10 ◼   ► they are they have proven that so far [TS]

01:39:12 ◼   ► and even this you know end this that's [TS]

01:39:14 ◼   ► supposed to last forever and be for [TS]

01:39:15 ◼   ► archival purposes they're brand new [TS]

01:39:17 ◼   ► relatively speaking and so we don't [TS]

01:39:20 ◼   ► actually know like everyone thought that [TS]

01:39:21 ◼   ► recordable you know CDs and DVDs would [TS]

01:39:23 ◼   ► last a long time too and they didn't so [TS]

01:39:25 ◼   ► you can try to simulate some things here [TS]

01:39:28 ◼   ► and there but it's it's not it's it's [TS]

01:39:31 ◼   ► not always dependable and then and you [TS]

01:39:34 ◼   ► know the other thing is like again like [TS]

01:39:35 ◼   ► are you gonna be able front-drive in 20 [TS]

01:39:36 ◼   ► years that can read these discs I think [TS]

01:39:38 ◼   ► that's fairly unlikely like you might be [TS]

01:39:41 ◼   ► able to find a drive that reads blu-rays [TS]

01:39:43 ◼   ► but it might not read these blu-rays or [TS]

01:39:45 ◼   ► whatever else like it's I think your [TS]

01:39:47 ◼   ► options are going to be fairly weak [TS]

01:39:50 ◼   ► they're your best option here is to use [TS]

01:39:52 ◼   ► hard drives and [TS]

01:39:54 ◼   ► every few years when when you get larger [TS]

01:39:57 ◼   ► ones move the stuff to the larger ones [TS]

01:40:00 ◼   ► because the only the only way to keep [TS]

01:40:02 ◼   ► data like this really preserved long [TS]

01:40:04 ◼   ► term is to take it with you to move it [TS]

01:40:07 ◼   ► periodically to the new set up if you [TS]

01:40:09 ◼   ► don't do that you are reliant on certain [TS]

01:40:12 ◼   ► technologies being very long-lasting and [TS]

01:40:15 ◼   ► being able to be read forever and that's [TS]

01:40:18 ◼   ► just unlikely to be true meanwhile hard [TS]

01:40:22 ◼   ► drives are huge and relatively cost [TS]

01:40:25 ◼   ► nothing for the amount of storage you [TS]

01:40:26 ◼   ► get like there it's you can get such [TS]

01:40:28 ◼   ► large drives now that if you're if you [TS]

01:40:30 ◼   ► are offloading you know what used to be [TS]

01:40:32 ◼   ► considered large files five ten years [TS]

01:40:34 ◼   ► ago today you can get one hard drive for [TS]

01:40:38 ◼   ► $200 or less that can hold all of them [TS]

01:40:41 ◼   ► probably plus a lot of extra space so [TS]

01:40:44 ◼   ► that's me that's my recommended solution [TS]

01:40:46 ◼   ► is use hard drive somehow whether that's [TS]

01:40:49 ◼   ► in an ass or whether that's just [TS]

01:40:51 ◼   ► external disks that you plug in once a [TS]

01:40:53 ◼   ► year to you know check them and move [TS]

01:40:55 ◼   ► them on to new ones and also by the way [TS]

01:40:57 ◼   ► have some redundancy here like one [TS]

01:41:01 ◼   ► external drive having your only copy of [TS]

01:41:03 ◼   ► something is still just one disk and [TS]

01:41:06 ◼   ► that disk can fail and you can lose [TS]

01:41:07 ◼   ► everything so you know have things on [TS]

01:41:09 ◼   ► multiple disks but the the grand the [TS]

01:41:13 ◼   ► overarching answer to the question is [TS]

01:41:15 ◼   ► don't just leave them in a box for 20 [TS]

01:41:17 ◼   ► years keep them moving with you as [TS]

01:41:19 ◼   ► technology moves on as as drives get [TS]

01:41:21 ◼   ► bigger as your setups change and then [TS]

01:41:23 ◼   ► down the road you know maybe just move [TS]

01:41:25 ◼   ► them to cloud storage yeah that pretty [TS]

01:41:26 ◼   ► much covers it the only thing I'd add is [TS]

01:41:28 ◼   ► if you really want to go for like how do [TS]

01:41:30 ◼   ► I do that how do i how do I keep the [TS]

01:41:32 ◼   ► data moving in my large current set [TS]

01:41:35 ◼   ► while making sure every done in C is you [TS]

01:41:38 ◼   ► you know so you want it to be your [TS]

01:41:40 ◼   ► currently active pile of data you want [TS]

01:41:42 ◼   ► that currently active pile of data to be [TS]

01:41:44 ◼   ► backed up and you want it to be stored [TS]

01:41:47 ◼   ► on some kind of thing that has like [TS]

01:41:49 ◼   ► checksumming right well that's a file [TS]

01:41:51 ◼   ► system or a device or some other [TS]

01:41:52 ◼   ► facility to prevent bedrock because [TS]

01:41:55 ◼   ► that's your only remaining enemy once [TS]

01:41:56 ◼   ► you have the data with you active [TS]

01:41:58 ◼   ► constantly moving to bigger and bigger [TS]

01:42:00 ◼   ► storage just got always keep it moving [TS]

01:42:02 ◼   ► bit rot is your enemy because you're [TS]

01:42:04 ◼   ► moving it over the course of a decade [TS]

01:42:05 ◼   ► and if the bits are slowly rotting by [TS]

01:42:07 ◼   ► the time you go to [TS]

01:42:07 ◼   ► pull something out it could be corrupted [TS]

01:42:08 ◼   ► especially if it's something you know [TS]

01:42:10 ◼   ► like a some particular file format or [TS]

01:42:13 ◼   ► whatever that's sensitive to a bit [TS]

01:42:15 ◼   ► flipped here there so yeah I mean it's [TS]

01:42:18 ◼   ► difficult to do but that's you know I [TS]

01:42:20 ◼   ► wish there was an easier answer like [TS]

01:42:22 ◼   ► Marco special magic blu-ray discs but [TS]

01:42:24 ◼   ► there's not you just got it you just got [TS]

01:42:25 ◼   ► to have it all in your currently active [TS]

01:42:27 ◼   ► set of data and it has to be backed up [TS]

01:42:29 ◼   ► and redundant and you have to keep them [TS]

01:42:31 ◼   ► moving [TS]

01:42:31 ◼   ► moving on Lois Thompson writes the [TS]

01:42:35 ◼   ► switch has shown that people are willing [TS]

01:42:37 ◼   ► to pay for full blown console games on [TS]

01:42:39 ◼   ► the go why are there no Triple A games [TS]

01:42:41 ◼   ► for iOS or TV OS is it just down to lack [TS]

01:42:44 ◼   ► of bundled controllers or docks [TS]

01:42:46 ◼   ► maybe but to me the obvious answer to [TS]

01:42:49 ◼   ► this question is nobody wants to pay a [TS]

01:42:52 ◼   ► dollar for anything why would somebody [TS]

01:42:56 ◼   ► want to pay sixty of their dollars for [TS]

01:42:59 ◼   ► something on iOS like is there more to [TS]

01:43:01 ◼   ► this than that John well I mean there's [TS]

01:43:03 ◼   ► lots of different controller thing is [TS]

01:43:06 ◼   ► definitely a big one I don't think the [TS]

01:43:09 ◼   ► pricing is that big a deal like didn't [TS]

01:43:11 ◼   ► civilization come out for iPad and it [TS]

01:43:12 ◼   ► was like $60 like it's not like you [TS]

01:43:14 ◼   ► can't put them at that price it's just a [TS]

01:43:16 ◼   ► question of do the people who want to [TS]

01:43:18 ◼   ► play that much money for him in this [TS]

01:43:20 ◼   ► presence Triple A games what they mean [TS]

01:43:22 ◼   ► are Triple A games as they have existed [TS]

01:43:24 ◼   ► on PC and consoles which i think is a [TS]

01:43:26 ◼   ► more it's a it's a different definition [TS]

01:43:28 ◼   ► than just saying Triple A games because [TS]

01:43:30 ◼   ► you might think well that just means [TS]

01:43:31 ◼   ► good games there are tons of good games [TS]

01:43:32 ◼   ► on iOS and you could say maybe they're [TS]

01:43:35 ◼   ► not as expansive because they have to be [TS]

01:43:36 ◼   ► sold for $2 or something like that but [TS]

01:43:38 ◼   ► they're I think they're very good games [TS]

01:43:39 ◼   ► I don't think length determines the [TS]

01:43:40 ◼   ► value of a game but they mean Triple A [TS]

01:43:43 ◼   ► games in the PC console sense which is [TS]

01:43:45 ◼   ► implies a certain amount of production [TS]

01:43:48 ◼   ► values a certain amount of content and [TS]

01:43:50 ◼   ► the people who want to play those games [TS]

01:43:53 ◼   ► aren't on iOS and TV us waiting [TS]

01:43:56 ◼   ► patiently to pay you 60 dollars that [TS]

01:43:58 ◼   ► they have consoles they have pcs that's [TS]

01:44:00 ◼   ► where they are that's where they want to [TS]

01:44:02 ◼   ► play their games [TS]

01:44:02 ◼   ► so making a $60 game and putting it on [TS]

01:44:06 ◼   ► iOS or TV OS is not going to get people [TS]

01:44:10 ◼   ► to buy that game not because it's a bad [TS]

01:44:11 ◼   ► game or people don't want to face it now [TS]

01:44:13 ◼   ► let's take that exact same game and [TS]

01:44:14 ◼   ► offer it on a console and or PC and our [TS]

01:44:17 ◼   ► steam or whatever and it will sell it's [TS]

01:44:20 ◼   ► the same game in both play [TS]

01:44:21 ◼   ► and there's nothing other than the lack [TS]

01:44:23 ◼   ► of controller and you know the lack of [TS]

01:44:24 ◼   ► Apple courting game developers in the [TS]

01:44:26 ◼   ► same way that console makers do and [TS]

01:44:28 ◼   ► Microsoft does right there's nothing [TS]

01:44:30 ◼   ► preventing that game from working fine [TS]

01:44:34 ◼   ► on those on those platforms I mean most [TS]

01:44:36 ◼   ► of the Apple stuff is really more [TS]

01:44:37 ◼   ► powerful than the switch it's just a [TS]

01:44:40 ◼   ► question of where the people are and the [TS]

01:44:42 ◼   ► hardware I definitely has something to [TS]

01:44:43 ◼   ► do with it but it also is just habits [TS]

01:44:45 ◼   ► and where people where people want play [TS]

01:44:47 ◼   ► their games takes a long time to [TS]

01:44:48 ◼   ► dislodge somebody like if you're a PC [TS]

01:44:50 ◼   ► gamer what's gonna get you off that PC [TS]

01:44:51 ◼   ► if you're a console gamer what's gonna [TS]

01:44:53 ◼   ► get you off that console onto TV OS [TS]

01:44:57 ◼   ► thing doesn't ship with a controller [TS]

01:44:59 ◼   ► that doesn't have a lot of games like [TS]

01:45:01 ◼   ► it's a lot of it is just playing inertia [TS]

01:45:03 ◼   ► so I thought that Apple couldn't go for [TS]

01:45:05 ◼   ► it I mean Apple could have made [TS]

01:45:07 ◼   ► something like the switch long ago or [TS]

01:45:09 ◼   ► could turn TV OS into something like a [TS]

01:45:11 ◼   ► television stranded switch in that it is [TS]

01:45:14 ◼   ► like a not too powerful console that is [TS]

01:45:17 ◼   ► small and doesn't require you know [TS]

01:45:19 ◼   ► humongous fans and a giant embedded [TS]

01:45:21 ◼   ► harddrive and everything right the iPad [TS]

01:45:23 ◼   ► could have been the switch well yeah [TS]

01:45:25 ◼   ► unless so because it's less natural [TS]

01:45:28 ◼   ► pairing with a controller but Apple just [TS]

01:45:30 ◼   ► didn't pursue that strategy which is [TS]

01:45:32 ◼   ► fine like they'll battle Apple happily [TS]

01:45:34 ◼   ► sold millions and millions of 99-cent [TS]

01:45:36 ◼   ► games or free to play games that release [TS]

01:45:38 ◼   ► a bunch of people for $20,000 until they [TS]

01:45:40 ◼   ► go bankrupt and lose their house but [TS]

01:45:43 ◼   ► yeah it's it's I don't want to say it's [TS]

01:45:48 ◼   ► mostly cultural but like that's what I [TS]

01:45:49 ◼   ► feel about like the technological [TS]

01:45:51 ◼   ► questions and even like the consumer [TS]

01:45:53 ◼   ► questions you're not where it's at it's [TS]

01:45:54 ◼   ► about it's about like the culture and [TS]

01:45:57 ◼   ► the platform owners have to be motivated [TS]

01:45:59 ◼   ► to change the culture and honestly I'm [TS]

01:46:01 ◼   ► not sure if Apple if it would be a good [TS]

01:46:04 ◼   ► move for Apple do that we always say you [TS]

01:46:06 ◼   ► know the gaming market is there for [TS]

01:46:07 ◼   ► Apple to take it but they're taking a [TS]

01:46:08 ◼   ► different slice of the gaming market and [TS]

01:46:10 ◼   ► who's to say that Apple you know we put [TS]

01:46:12 ◼   ► all the stock in like Oh Triple A games [TS]

01:46:13 ◼   ► as they exist on PC and consoles but [TS]

01:46:15 ◼   ► that's just you are where we're coming [TS]

01:46:19 ◼   ► from culturally that we think those are [TS]

01:46:20 ◼   ► the big games but are those companies [TS]

01:46:23 ◼   ► more successful making more money than [TS]

01:46:24 ◼   ► Apple's currently making selling $1 [TS]

01:46:26 ◼   ► games it really depends on what your [TS]

01:46:28 ◼   ► value I continue to think Apple doesn't [TS]

01:46:30 ◼   ► understand games and doesn't really care [TS]

01:46:33 ◼   ► about them and so I think it's perfectly [TS]

01:46:34 ◼   ► natural for [TS]

01:46:35 ◼   ► the games and the game customers to go [TS]

01:46:36 ◼   ► elsewhere yeah I think you pretty much [TS]

01:46:39 ◼   ► covered it I would just add that I do [TS]

01:46:42 ◼   ► think there's a lot of value in the [TS]

01:46:44 ◼   ► limited number of games that's available [TS]

01:46:47 ◼   ► on a game console like like if you if [TS]

01:46:49 ◼   ► you buy a switch and you want to play [TS]

01:46:52 ◼   ► some games on it well you don't have 10 [TS]

01:46:54 ◼   ► billion games available for free to $1 [TS]

01:46:57 ◼   ► the to choose from there you have a you [TS]

01:47:00 ◼   ► know vastly smaller number even when [TS]

01:47:02 ◼   ► there's lot of games for a console it's [TS]

01:47:03 ◼   ► still like a vastly smaller number [TS]

01:47:05 ◼   ► compared to like you have on iOS and and [TS]

01:47:09 ◼   ► those games have been vetted to a much [TS]

01:47:11 ◼   ► larger degree like the the quality [TS]

01:47:13 ◼   ► standards that are enforced by a company [TS]

01:47:16 ◼   ► like Nintendo or Sony or Microsoft for [TS]

01:47:18 ◼   ► their consoles are way higher and way [TS]

01:47:22 ◼   ► more strict than what Apple enforces in [TS]

01:47:24 ◼   ► the App Store so there's certain minimum [TS]

01:47:27 ◼   ► barrier there and even you know and [TS]

01:47:30 ◼   ► honestly it's not so great for like you [TS]

01:47:33 ◼   ► know inclusion and diversity of game [TS]

01:47:35 ◼   ► makers but it's also usually more [TS]

01:47:37 ◼   ► expensive to develop these platforms or [TS]

01:47:39 ◼   ► at least there's barriers in place it's [TS]

01:47:41 ◼   ► not as easy as signing up for an Apple [TS]

01:47:42 ◼   ► Developer membership and and it's [TS]

01:47:44 ◼   ► sometimes it's more expensive as well so [TS]

01:47:46 ◼   ► there are these barriers in place to [TS]

01:47:49 ◼   ► getting the games onto these platforms [TS]

01:47:50 ◼   ► there are much higher restrictions put [TS]

01:47:53 ◼   ► in place by the vendors these platforms [TS]

01:47:55 ◼   ► and all the games on these platforms are [TS]

01:47:58 ◼   ► you know by iOS standards [TS]

01:48:00 ◼   ► extraordinarily expensive by being like [TS]

01:48:02 ◼   ► you know 15 dollars and up basically you [TS]

01:48:05 ◼   ► know a good triple-a game is 50 or 60 [TS]

01:48:07 ◼   ► bucks and and you know even though even [TS]

01:48:10 ◼   ► the indie games you know it's like [TS]

01:48:11 ◼   ► stardew valley or even like some of the [TS]

01:48:13 ◼   ► smaller ones they're like you know $10 [TS]

01:48:14 ◼   ► $15 etc O'Brien up stardew valley it's a [TS]

01:48:17 ◼   ► good point because on the PC that has [TS]

01:48:19 ◼   ► all the advantages of iOS anyone can [TS]

01:48:21 ◼   ► make one it's much more open you don't [TS]

01:48:23 ◼   ► have to get an sdk from Nintendo or Sony [TS]

01:48:26 ◼   ► or Microsoft you know as you pointed out [TS]

01:48:28 ◼   ► when you talk about started Valley was [TS]

01:48:29 ◼   ► made by one person no one was stopping [TS]

01:48:31 ◼   ► him from doing that he didn't get have [TS]

01:48:32 ◼   ► to get App Store approval to make it he [TS]

01:48:34 ◼   ► did have to get on Steam which was kind [TS]

01:48:35 ◼   ► of app story but there's no reason he [TS]

01:48:37 ◼   ► couldn't just sold that on his own [TS]

01:48:38 ◼   ► website with stripe or PayPal or [TS]

01:48:39 ◼   ► whatever [TS]

01:48:40 ◼   ► so it has almost all the advantages of [TS]

01:48:44 ◼   ► iOS in terms of openness depending on [TS]

01:48:45 ◼   ► where you go but you know as the console [TS]

01:48:47 ◼   ► side very curated very very narrow very [TS]

01:48:49 ◼   ► simple to choose from and console gamers [TS]

01:48:51 ◼   ► or the people who go in that direction [TS]

01:48:53 ◼   ► and PC gamers or the people who say yeah [TS]

01:48:55 ◼   ► but I want all the choice of steam [TS]

01:48:57 ◼   ► including all the crap weird games for [TS]

01:48:59 ◼   ► the chance to be the first person to [TS]

01:49:01 ◼   ► play stardew valley because I'm assuming [TS]

01:49:03 ◼   ► the PC version came out first just [TS]

01:49:04 ◼   ► because that's the easiest platform to [TS]

01:49:06 ◼   ► develop for if you're a single developer [TS]

01:49:07 ◼   ► you're not gonna be dealing with Sony or [TS]

01:49:10 ◼   ► Microsoft or Nintendo is BS to get your [TS]

01:49:12 ◼   ► game off the ground yeah and also like [TS]

01:49:14 ◼   ► you know because the the game the game [TS]

01:49:17 ◼   ► consoles have so many fewer games and [TS]

01:49:20 ◼   ► because the standards are so much higher [TS]

01:49:22 ◼   ► and because they you know there's all [TS]

01:49:24 ◼   ► these it they're basically like a a much [TS]

01:49:27 ◼   ► smaller number of generally much better [TS]

01:49:30 ◼   ► games on the consoles and you have an [TS]

01:49:31 ◼   ► iOS that also means that like the [TS]

01:49:33 ◼   ► promotion is very different the the [TS]

01:49:34 ◼   ► storefront is very different you know [TS]

01:49:36 ◼   ► you don't have in the App Store on iOS [TS]

01:49:39 ◼   ► you're competing against everything in [TS]

01:49:41 ◼   ► the world whereas if you go on a switch [TS]

01:49:43 ◼   ► and you go to the eShop on switch your [TS]

01:49:46 ◼   ► only choices are premium price games you [TS]

01:49:50 ◼   ► know whether that's $15 or 60 dollars [TS]

01:49:51 ◼   ► like those are your only choices and [TS]

01:49:54 ◼   ► because this these standards are higher [TS]

01:49:57 ◼   ► the whole market behaves differently [TS]

01:49:58 ◼   ► first of all you can go read reviews and [TS]

01:50:00 ◼   ► you can see how good they are but you [TS]

01:50:01 ◼   ► can also probably just buy a game that [TS]

01:50:04 ◼   ► like like when mario odyssey came out we [TS]

01:50:06 ◼   ► just bought it because we knew like [TS]

01:50:08 ◼   ► chances are that this is going to be a [TS]

01:50:10 ◼   ► very good game because of reputation and [TS]

01:50:11 ◼   ► nintendo and what we heard about it and [TS]

01:50:14 ◼   ► that iOS you just don't really have that [TS]

01:50:16 ◼   ► as much and and your battle with [TS]

01:50:18 ◼   ► everything else and consumers if you go [TS]

01:50:20 ◼   ► to the App Store and a game is priced at [TS]

01:50:22 ◼   ► $40 or more like you're never gonna drop [TS]

01:50:25 ◼   ► that on an iOS game because your [TS]

01:50:27 ◼   ► expectations of whether that's going to [TS]

01:50:28 ◼   ► be worth it or good or not are by [TS]

01:50:31 ◼   ► necessity way lower you know the reality [TS]

01:50:34 ◼   ► is the App Store ecosystem on all sides [TS]

01:50:37 ◼   ► is set up to incentivize and reward [TS]

01:50:42 ◼   ► certain types of behavior and it's you [TS]

01:50:46 ◼   ► know it culminates in these free-to-play [TS]

01:50:49 ◼   ► social manipulation games and that's [TS]

01:50:52 ◼   ► what the app store in [TS]

01:50:53 ◼   ► Courage's that's what it gets like it's [TS]

01:50:56 ◼   ► like that the entire store is set up in [TS]

01:51:00 ◼   ► a way that encourages promotes and [TS]

01:51:02 ◼   ► rewards abusive in-app purchase free [TS]

01:51:05 ◼   ► games and so that's what they're gonna [TS]

01:51:07 ◼   ► get tons of and that's going to succeed [TS]

01:51:10 ◼   ► that's what Apple's going to promote [TS]

01:51:11 ◼   ► because it sells more of their devices [TS]

01:51:13 ◼   ► and all these you know free allegedly [TS]

01:51:14 ◼   ► games and you know it's it's a vicious [TS]

01:51:18 ◼   ► cycle I don't see how they break out of [TS]

01:51:19 ◼   ► that I also would not discount the [TS]

01:51:22 ◼   ► controller question too much because [TS]

01:51:25 ◼   ► there's a lot of game types that gamers [TS]

01:51:28 ◼   ► who are willing to pay 60 bucks for a [TS]

01:51:30 ◼   ► game enjoy playing that either are [TS]

01:51:34 ◼   ► unplayable or really inferior on a [TS]

01:51:37 ◼   ► touchscreen now granted there's also [TS]

01:51:38 ◼   ► types of games that you know work on a [TS]

01:51:40 ◼   ► touchscreen that would suck on a console [TS]

01:51:42 ◼   ► but the fact remains that there's a lot [TS]

01:51:44 ◼   ► of very popular established triple-a [TS]

01:51:47 ◼   ► game types that are very cumbersome to [TS]

01:51:50 ◼   ► play on a touchscreen without some other [TS]

01:51:51 ◼   ► kind of controller or a mouse or [TS]

01:51:52 ◼   ► something and so I think that also plays [TS]

01:51:55 ◼   ► into it too to a lesser degree but I [TS]

01:51:56 ◼   ► think that the bigger the bigger problem [TS]

01:51:58 ◼   ► is simply that difference in the market [TS]

01:51:59 ◼   ► place and styles of how you buy games [TS]

01:52:01 ◼   ► what games are available to buy how you [TS]

01:52:03 ◼   ► find them how they're promoted what what [TS]

01:52:06 ◼   ► your other options are on those [TS]

01:52:07 ◼   ► platforms etc you know if I don't buy a [TS]

01:52:10 ◼   ► $60 game on my switch there's not much [TS]

01:52:13 ◼   ► more I can do with the switch like if I [TS]

01:52:16 ◼   ► don't buy you know a secret or game on [TS]

01:52:18 ◼   ► the iPad I have 10 billion free games to [TS]

01:52:20 ◼   ► choose from instead and so like there's [TS]

01:52:21 ◼   ► a reason where the market goes it goes [TS]

01:52:23 ◼   ► the way that it goes and the cultural [TS]

01:52:25 ◼   ► differences even even comes up in the [TS]

01:52:26 ◼   ► controller thing right so Nintendo when [TS]

01:52:32 ◼   ► they made the new console they put a [TS]

01:52:33 ◼   ► touchscreen on it because they recognize [TS]

01:52:36 ◼   ► there's a bunch of games that benefit [TS]

01:52:37 ◼   ► from touchscreens and even just the non [TS]

01:52:39 ◼   ► game stuff like it's nice to have a [TS]

01:52:40 ◼   ► touchscreen and it's got a controller on [TS]

01:52:42 ◼   ► the flip side Apple said oh yeah we'll [TS]

01:52:45 ◼   ► have a way you can use controllers with [TS]

01:52:46 ◼   ► their Apple TVs but we're not gonna [TS]

01:52:48 ◼   ► build one like it it's a [TS]

01:52:50 ◼   ► misunderstanding games like if you're [TS]

01:52:51 ◼   ► making a game thing you're like we [TS]

01:52:54 ◼   ► should put a touch screen on just in [TS]

01:52:55 ◼   ► case someone wants to make it touch [TS]

01:52:56 ◼   ► we're here but they won't be able to use [TS]

01:52:57 ◼   ► it when I come to their TV yeah but [TS]

01:52:59 ◼   ► we're still putting it on there like [TS]

01:53:00 ◼   ► it's we should just do it because we [TS]

01:53:01 ◼   ► care about games and maybe there's some [TS]

01:53:04 ◼   ► awesome game that we don't want to miss [TS]

01:53:05 ◼   ► out on by not having a touchscreen even [TS]

01:53:06 ◼   ► though you can [TS]

01:53:07 ◼   ► use it when I talk to the TV and we're [TS]

01:53:08 ◼   ► making this consult they can go most [TS]

01:53:10 ◼   ► places just put the touch screen in [TS]

01:53:11 ◼   ► whereas Apple can't even bring [TS]

01:53:12 ◼   ► themselves to sell to make their own [TS]

01:53:15 ◼   ► controller let alone bundle a [TS]

01:53:16 ◼   ► third-party controller with it they'll [TS]

01:53:18 ◼   ► just like will sell third-party [TS]

01:53:19 ◼   ► controllers in our stores and if someone [TS]

01:53:20 ◼   ► wants when they can get it and you know [TS]

01:53:23 ◼   ► they flip-flopped on whether it's read [TS]

01:53:24 ◼   ► you were allowed to require it in games [TS]

01:53:25 ◼   ► it just shows that Apple's you know just [TS]

01:53:27 ◼   ► not that into games and just doesn't [TS]

01:53:29 ◼   ► have the the mindset that a real game [TS]

01:53:31 ◼   ► maker would get would would have which [TS]

01:53:33 ◼   ► is like can we conceive of a cool game [TS]

01:53:35 ◼   ► being made by this I'll look at all [TS]

01:53:36 ◼   ► these touch games on those platforms we [TS]

01:53:38 ◼   ► should make sure we're not excluded from [TS]

01:53:40 ◼   ► that so please put a touch screen on the [TS]

01:53:41 ◼   ► switch and they did all right thanks to [TS]

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01:53:46 ◼   ► and fracture we will see you next week [TS]

01:53:50 ◼   ► now the show is over [TS]

01:53:53 ◼   ► they didn't even mean to begin because [TS]

01:53:56 ◼   ► it was accidental oh it was accidental [TS]

01:54:03 ◼   ► research Marco and Casey wouldn't let [TS]

01:54:05 ◼   ► him cuz it was accidentally was [TS]

01:54:10 ◼   ► accidental and you can find the show [TS]

01:54:13 ◼   ► notes at ADP and Twitter you can follow [TS]

01:54:21 ◼   ► them cas pyl is esta that's Casey less [TS]

01:54:27 ◼   ► ma RC o AR m auntie Marco Arment SI r AC [TS]

01:54:36 ◼   ► Syracuse [TS]

01:54:50 ◼   ► so apparently if you really want to get [TS]

01:54:53 ◼   ► things done you should have a baby [TS]

01:54:55 ◼   ► because as soon as you have a baby your [TS]

01:54:58 ◼   ► application and do a YouTube video and [TS]

01:55:02 ◼   ► who knows the case will be doing Maxie's [TS]

01:55:03 ◼   ► got all this free time he just needs to [TS]

01:55:05 ◼   ► fill with new hobbies yes so so tell us [TS]

01:55:07 ◼   ► about this so so you you reviewed an SUV [TS]

01:55:10 ◼   ► so how we actually talked about this on [TS]

01:55:12 ◼   ► the forthcoming episode of analog which [TS]

01:55:14 ◼   ► as we talked tonight is not released and [TS]

01:55:17 ◼   ► and will probably be released after this [TS]

01:55:19 ◼   ► episode of ATP is because that's the [TS]

01:55:21 ◼   ► schedule we're on but I had the car was [TS]

01:55:24 ◼   ► it last week I believe and Alfre may [TS]

01:55:28 ◼   ► austell vo which is their new more [TS]

01:55:30 ◼   ► reasonably new SUV they were like hey we [TS]

01:55:32 ◼   ► can give it to you mid-january and I was [TS]

01:55:33 ◼   ► like oh sure I guess I know I'm gonna be [TS]

01:55:39 ◼   ► home but that's gonna be a busy time so [TS]

01:55:41 ◼   ► I'll just see what I can do and in short [TS]

01:55:45 ◼   ► it was actually a really nice truck like [TS]

01:55:46 ◼   ► trucks are not my thing just in somebody [TS]

01:55:48 ◼   ► pointed helped via Twitter you know I'm [TS]

01:55:49 ◼   ► saying that it despite saying oh I'm [TS]

01:55:51 ◼   ► probably gonna buy a Wrangler soon but [TS]

01:55:53 ◼   ► generally speaking trucks are not my [TS]

01:55:54 ◼   ► thing but this thing and actually a lot [TS]

01:55:56 ◼   ► of people wouldn't even call it a truck [TS]

01:55:57 ◼   ► but that's neither here nor there yeah [TS]

01:55:59 ◼   ► but whatever at all car is not usually [TS]

01:56:03 ◼   ► my thing but this was actually really [TS]

01:56:05 ◼   ► nice there are some problems with it but [TS]

01:56:07 ◼   ► all told it was reasonably quick handled [TS]

01:56:10 ◼   ► stunningly well for for a car that does [TS]

01:56:13 ◼   ► that tall and I really liked it [TS]

01:56:15 ◼   ► like I don't know if this would be what [TS]

01:56:17 ◼   ► I would choose if I were to buy a car [TS]

01:56:19 ◼   ► but I can see how one could end up with [TS]

01:56:22 ◼   ► this over like an x3 or an Audi q5 or [TS]

01:56:25 ◼   ► something like that cool well I really [TS]

01:56:27 ◼   ► enjoyed your video I think I don't [TS]

01:56:29 ◼   ► really have any a peanut about the car [TS]

01:56:30 ◼   ► but you continue to be like [TS]

01:56:33 ◼   ► frustratingly improving quickly at [TS]

01:56:35 ◼   ► making videos like you started out way [TS]

01:56:37 ◼   ► better than I thought you would no [TS]

01:56:38 ◼   ► offense like I just thought it was a [TS]

01:56:39 ◼   ► hard problem and then you know video 2 [TS]

01:56:43 ◼   ► is even better and so yeah pretty cool [TS]

01:56:45 ◼   ► well thanks yeah I mean I'm pretty proud [TS]

01:56:47 ◼   ► of the video like there's definitely [TS]

01:56:48 ◼   ► problems don't get me wrong it's not [TS]

01:56:49 ◼   ► flawless by any means but I am pretty [TS]

01:56:52 ◼   ► pleased with how it turned out and I [TS]

01:56:53 ◼   ► feel like I've made a lot of I've made a [TS]

01:56:56 ◼   ► lot of positive steps [TS]

01:56:58 ◼   ► and again there's gonna be a fairly [TS]

01:56:59 ◼   ► in-depth discussion about this on analog [TS]

01:57:02 ◼   ► we'll talk about it or I mean I'll link [TS]

01:57:05 ◼   ► it in the show notes but if you're [TS]

01:57:07 ◼   ► listening to this you may or may not be [TS]

01:57:08 ◼   ► able to click that link and get to [TS]

01:57:10 ◼   ► anything because yeah the analog episode [TS]

01:57:12 ◼   ► isn't out yet but no I'm pretty pleased [TS]

01:57:15 ◼   ► with the video it was shorter which I [TS]

01:57:16 ◼   ► think was good I probably still could [TS]

01:57:19 ◼   ► have cut something from it and there [TS]

01:57:20 ◼   ► were probably some places where I could [TS]

01:57:22 ◼   ► have tightened it up a little bit but [TS]

01:57:23 ◼   ► all told it I'm pretty darn pleased with [TS]

01:57:27 ◼   ► how it came out I think the biggest [TS]

01:57:28 ◼   ► issues with the prior video with the [TS]

01:57:30 ◼   ► Giulia were were that I was not [TS]

01:57:34 ◼   ► particularly effusive or I mean maybe [TS]

01:57:37 ◼   ► not effusive but I wasn't particularly [TS]

01:57:39 ◼   ► interesting I guess you could say like I [TS]

01:57:41 ◼   ► was kind of monotone and kind of just [TS]

01:57:44 ◼   ► there and additionally the audio was [TS]

01:57:46 ◼   ► just garbage as we talked about ad [TS]

01:57:48 ◼   ► nauseam previously now the audio [TS]

01:57:50 ◼   ► accepting one section I think was pretty [TS]

01:57:52 ◼   ► darn good yeah I definitely clipped in a [TS]

01:57:54 ◼   ► few spots which was unfortunate but you [TS]

01:57:56 ◼   ► know all told it was pretty good [TS]

01:57:58 ◼   ► and I think I was a much more [TS]