00:00:00 ◼ ► It's the lead up to the holidays and there's a lot of projects in the air, you know, like there's there's not only you know
00:00:22 ◼ ► In addition to gift-giving you have stuff like sending out Christmas cards, which fortunately my lovely wife Tiff does the vast majority
00:00:35 ◼ ► I hope that you appreciate the amount of freaking labor that takes because I am the de facto
00:00:46 ◼ ► So frustrating and takes so much more time and money than it should all for as Aaron is off to remind me people to look
00:00:54 ◼ ► At and go oh lovely and then throw in the trash. I think I really really love the tradition
00:01:06 ◼ ► Working with these god-awful websites that that are that you use to like generate these cards
00:01:12 ◼ ► I mean, I maybe Tiff actually puts everything together in like Photoshop or something like that. I'm not at that advanced
00:01:16 ◼ ► No, no, she she uses the god-awful websites and that that's part of the frustration and of this time of year
00:01:25 ◼ ► everyone goes through it about the same time into these websites crumble under the load and you know, you can imagine a
00:01:30 ◼ ► Fairly mediocre web app even in the best of days is not the best user experience, right?
00:01:51 ◼ ► to in like mid-november like really start getting the process going because my typical mo is that I just plain don't think about it until
00:01:58 ◼ ► December and then I'm like crap. I got to get the show on the road and so like mid-december
00:02:12 ◼ ► And so then we have to go get everyone dressed up and do the picture and blah blah blah and now I'm like delayed getting
00:02:17 ◼ ► Everything to the printer and then the printer is gonna take like a week or two to print it and then it doesn't arrive here
00:02:25 ◼ ► I guess on myself and I always fail every year and so then I get frustrated and of course because I'm a turd I take
00:02:34 ◼ ► We just everyone's going to put these in the trash in a week. Anyway, why do we care like well, yes, but but it's so enjoyable
00:02:46 ◼ ► So all of that is many many words to say I hope that you do indeed appreciate the work that TIFF is surely putting in
00:02:52 ◼ ► I think this is a good time for me to announce that the Syracuse family will not be sending cards this year
00:02:58 ◼ ► So you do in particular when you don't get a card from us. Don't be insulted. We're not sending them to anybody
00:03:03 ◼ ► Why because we didn't get our acts together soon enough and we have too much other crap
00:03:07 ◼ ► So it's like we made I mean, I made a different call than the list family, but we're in a similar situation
00:03:15 ◼ ► So if you're listening to this and you normally get a card from me when you don't get one this year. Don't be insulted
00:03:26 ◼ ► Sorry Marco like 30 minutes ago. You were trying to make a point. I totally do. I'm sorry. I don't remember it was anymore
00:03:41 ◼ ► I was I was saying to the boys before the show that we just picked up our Christmas tree and we and we are a believer
00:03:46 ◼ ► In the live Christmas trees here in the list household and this is unremarkable in and of itself
00:03:52 ◼ ► But this is Penny's first Christmas with a Christmas tree because we got her we adopted her
00:03:57 ◼ ► Just before New Year's last year and my limited understanding is that it is probably not good for her to chew on
00:04:04 ◼ ► Said Christmas tree, which is probably as a dog just yes. Sorry penny penny my dog. That wasn't clear at this point
00:04:14 ◼ ► Anyways, it's going to be an adventure keeping her from just eating every bit of that tree
00:04:24 ◼ ► I think it'll be fine cats are the biggest jerks with Christmas trees dogs usually good about it
00:04:28 ◼ ► Well cats are jerks in general. So I mean, what are you gonna do? So I already said that we totally failed
00:04:45 ◼ ► Slim pickins literally like all the trees were super skinny. Well, that's fine. It's Charlie Brown tree then
00:05:06 ◼ ► So it was like it was like a pipe cleaner like a big bushy pipe cleaner and I asked the person like what's the deal?
00:05:14 ◼ ► These are the trees that we got so teenagers. Yeah, and our problem is we have really low ceilings in our ancient
00:05:21 ◼ ► So even the ones that were like nine feet tall that would no way they would fit in our house
00:05:28 ◼ ► You know, I had to pick like a seven foot tree that would fit in our tiny little house and those just look like pipe
00:05:35 ◼ ► And we put it in the garage as we really do because waiting to the weekend to bring it in
00:05:41 ◼ ► And my wife just couldn't take it and she said, you know what I'm going out and getting a better tree
00:05:53 ◼ ► It's like close to her work, but not really close to us. So now we have two Christmas trees a reject one
00:06:02 ◼ ► I mean, yeah, where does the reject one live in the house? They're both in the garage right now
00:06:06 ◼ ► The reject one is laying on the floor in the garage and the oh the good one is in the in the stand in water
00:06:25 ◼ ► But there is much more going on than just that and maybe it'll wait for a rectus episode in the future
00:06:38 ◼ ► So I thought my impression was there was almost not enough room in your garage for air much less a tree
00:06:53 ◼ ► As soon as the weather gets warm again, my wife takes over the garage and fills it with junk and usually each winter
00:07:02 ◼ ► But that is not happening anytime soon for reasons that I will mention in the after show. Oh my oh
00:07:16 ◼ ► But it was like and that was one of the best ones he's like it healthy branches from top to bottom
00:07:21 ◼ ► It's just shaped like a pipe cleaner and they were all like that. It's not just like this one
00:07:25 ◼ ► They were all like that. He said nine ten-foot trees that just did not get wider at the bottom
00:07:35 ◼ ► Like I think if I saw it was the best one and you don't understand the place I go to get the trees is like
00:07:41 ◼ ► a nightmare like just it's a parking lot that is too small with people all fighting with each other's right get parking spots and
00:07:48 ◼ ► Go somewhere if this was the best one I would go somewhere else and if I couldn't find anywhere else I would get a fake
00:08:00 ◼ ► Because I mean again, you just want it to be healthy like the big other big problem is usually they don't leave you're starving it though
00:08:07 ◼ ► Usually the one thought the branches lower are just like either gone or pathetic that they can't hold anything
00:08:20 ◼ ► Like you need to go like basically the day after Thanksgiving and we waited too long because then our acts together
00:08:27 ◼ ► Let's do some follow-up a few months ago, I think it was we were talking about ubiquitous breach
00:08:41 ◼ ► Fancy person you heard me and I would say they're really nerdy and also like very often used in businesses networking equipment
00:08:52 ◼ ► But anyway, I would say almost nobody whoever touches ubiquity gear would be considered a fancy person by almost anybody else
00:09:00 ◼ ► Good god, this shows going off the rails quick. All right, this conversation is quickly becoming a confrontation
00:09:06 ◼ ► All right, so ubiquity had a breach several months ago and turns out whoopsie-dupsies. It was from the inside
00:09:11 ◼ ► So we have a post on bleeping computer calm and I don't remember where I saw this. I apologize
00:09:22 ◼ ► opposing excuse me as an anonymous company whistleblower planted damaging news stories falsely claiming that the theft of data of
00:09:30 ◼ ► Ubiquity data had been by a hacker enabled by a vulnerability in the company's computer systems among other things
00:09:35 ◼ ► This is a quote sharp applied one-day life cycle retention policies to certain logs on AWS
00:09:41 ◼ ► Which would have the effect of deleting certain evidence of the intruders activity within one day court documents read
00:09:46 ◼ ► After his extortion attempts failed sharp shared information with the media while pretending to be a whistleblower and accusing the company of downplaying the incident
00:09:58 ◼ ► It is well truly evil a very ingenious plot and and it would be much funnier if it wasn't so gross
00:10:06 ◼ ► So yeah, that ingenious because it seems like he got caught pretty easily here. No, it's a tushé and fairly quickly as well
00:10:15 ◼ ► Admire the hustle if if nothing else and actually I do think I admire nothing else about this plan
00:10:26 ◼ ► Genuinely do use and have paid for some but not all of eros stuff in my house and I genuinely do like it
00:10:39 ◼ ► I kind of was like, oh, I don't know if I would ever go to that either but now we know what their their
00:11:04 ◼ ► This wasn't just like some low-level engineer. This was like a pretty high ranking person in the company and
00:11:10 ◼ ► Apparently people did not enjoy working with him on many levels. And so it sounds like Ubiquity might you know
00:11:21 ◼ ► But they they definitely have some personnel issues for sure at least they had and so they're they're not doing everything, right?
00:11:35 ◼ ► Like their reports are like hey everyone complained about this person and nothing ever happened in general
00:11:41 ◼ ► That's not healthy because no matter how super important somebody is or no matter what they may have done in the past that
00:11:47 ◼ ► Has earned them a reputation as a good employee who was involved with successful projects or whatever if lots and lots and lots of people
00:12:06 ◼ ► Slidebox an iOS app that helps you keep your photos clean and organized go to slide box co to get the app
00:12:17 ◼ ► So slide box just an iOS app and provides tinder like swipe gestures to sort your photos one by one
00:12:28 ◼ ► pull down to mark it as a favorite and tap one of your albums at the bottom to sort the photo into it and
00:12:33 ◼ ► That's it and you just swipe swipe swipe and you can go through and sort and organize your photo library so easily
00:12:39 ◼ ► It makes organizing photos fun and not honestly the chore that it usually feels like with the built-in tools if I'm honest and
00:12:53 ◼ ► So when you organize using slide box, you're organizing your actual photo library on your phone
00:12:58 ◼ ► Just like you see it in the photos app and your organization then of course sinks. So if you you know
00:13:03 ◼ ► Pick through and delete all the crappy photos and everything. That's all synced to all your devices
00:13:13 ◼ ► Pick through and filter out and organize your photo library. It's great. Check it out today
00:13:33 ◼ ► Hey, so my desk has been rearranged again. Oh, yeah, I'd like to know why is there still a large monitor on it?
00:13:41 ◼ ► Depends on your definition of large because it ain't 27 inches. I could tell you that so is it 32?
00:13:47 ◼ ► No, it's not 32. No, I would have been I would have been much less suave about breaking that news to you
00:14:04 ◼ ► Does that sound like any white car that you've once heard about on this very program when it worked it worked great
00:14:12 ◼ ► Seems to have gotten worse and worse and so it was taking more and more cajoling to get it to actually display video
00:14:20 ◼ ► On on the screen, but what was fascinating though is in as much as I'm laughing and trying to poke fun at both myself
00:14:28 ◼ ► And this monitor it was a very puzzling predicament that I was in in the sense that was it
00:14:36 ◼ ► I would plug in my laptop to the 5k the laptop would get power from the 5k every time no matter what without fail
00:14:45 ◼ ► Eight out of what nine out of ten times who would get video on they would display video on the 5k then like
00:14:51 ◼ ► Seven out of ten times then like a couple days later four out of ten times and now it's to the point of like
00:15:08 ◼ ► Warsaw ski on Twitter it gave me an excellent theory and this is through his own terrible lived experience
00:15:18 ◼ ► The port is wearing down and one of the high-speed connectors isn't making a good contact
00:15:30 ◼ ► I opened it up a while back and reflow the connector which fixed the issue temporarily, but it started up again
00:15:35 ◼ ► So it took a little bit of back and forth because I'm a dumb dumb and didn't understand what he was trying to say at first
00:15:46 ◼ ► right and some of them are for power and some of them are for data and what I didn't was saying was that
00:15:50 ◼ ► The power pins the way that they are physically connected to the PC board on on the on the LG 5k
00:16:04 ◼ ► But the high-speed data pins like to just kind of fall off after a while or lose their physical connection
00:16:10 ◼ ► And so that means that I can get power but I can't get video which is exactly the the thing I'm seeing right now
00:16:16 ◼ ► So I didn't wrote a little more so that this is with a picture though. It'll be in the show notes
00:16:32 ◼ ► We're not making good contact and cause signal integrity issues on my monitor due to the connector pulling off the board
00:16:36 ◼ ► And I should have mentioned and I forgot that during the days when it went from 8 out of 10 times to 5 to 2 out
00:16:45 ◼ ► Occasionally I would get it to work and then all of a sudden it would just die and stop working
00:16:53 ◼ ► Says that I didn't hit the nail on the head and this is the this is the real issue here
00:17:03 ◼ ► I did an online chat with LG and said I would like to get an RMA please because I would like to get the serviced
00:17:17 ◼ ► Now they didn't want to take my credit card over the chat because they shouldn't and I wouldn't have let them anyway
00:17:44 ◼ ► Not the most desirable thing in the world and I literally do not have any other monitors in the house. So
00:17:55 ◼ ► Who is that my last job job who happens to be the IT director at that job job was like hey, man
00:18:04 ◼ ► These are not ultra fine mind you with the LG 4k sitting around that maybe I could like buy one off of you
00:18:08 ◼ ► Because I kind of need something to hold me over for a few weeks and he said, you know what don't worry about it
00:18:17 ◼ ► I ran to my old office today for the first time in three years and I picked up a 24 inch LG 4k monitor
00:18:23 ◼ ► Which is what I'm currently using on my desk right now. So I am back in 2018, baby. Well
00:18:32 ◼ ► yes, and actually it's funny because I wrote a blog post about how much I hate the complete dearth of
00:18:42 ◼ ► Somebody pointed out to me and they're right that strictly speaking my own metrics say that this screen isn't really enough
00:18:53 ◼ ► But suffice to say there's a certain like pixels per inch number that you should really hit in order to be retina
00:18:57 ◼ ► And even though I do view this screen that I have in front of me, which is 24 inches at 4k
00:19:02 ◼ ► I do view it as retina in the sense that from for my eyes and from the distance at which I sit
00:19:07 ◼ ► I can't see pixels, but it's only like 180 ppi and strictly speaking. It should be like 220 to be true to form retina
00:19:16 ◼ ► Endorse isn't strictly speaking one of these what is it for options that are on the market right now?
00:19:26 ◼ ► Capable retina friendly whatever on the market right now. It is truly ridiculous. So Apple, please for the love of God
00:19:34 ◼ ► hashtag mark I was right is maybe not the best thing in the entire world or and the the utterly ridiculous
00:19:42 ◼ ► Pro display XDR which I should add by the way the morning that the LG 5k really gave up the ghost
00:20:02 ◼ ► I really don't intend to and and part of that is because it occurred to me that two of these LG 4k's which again
00:20:19 ◼ ► No, you're exactly right. And I know you're I know you the point you're making and I agree with you
00:20:22 ◼ ► Yes, it's it and that's what I came down to you. Like I was seriously about to commit to buying an XDR
00:20:26 ◼ ► And then it occurred to me for six thousand dollars like oh, let me rephrase I guess for six hundred dollars
00:20:37 ◼ ► But is it is an XDR ten times better than two of these four K's? I don't know about that
00:20:45 ◼ ► It is certainly ten times more expensive, but is it ten times better? I don't know five times better probably ten
00:20:50 ◼ ► I don't know about that. So that's why I didn't remind me of this in a month when I end up buying one
00:21:02 ◼ ► I will finally have the 5k and be living the dream that I was for about a week before it died
00:21:23 ◼ ► Hopefully Marco will make this the chapter art, but it's like it's the printed circuit board
00:21:28 ◼ ► Green in this case and then just coming out of the printed circuit board, you know perpendicular to it is the USBC connector
00:21:44 ◼ ► Seems so doesn't it? Um, I mean in general like it we complain about this and laptops for years. It's usually a good idea to have
00:21:54 ◼ ► to just host the connectors for anything that has connectors whether it's laptop with its ports on the sides or a monitor with ports on
00:22:01 ◼ ► the back and then have like a ribbon cable or something flexible that connects to the main printed circuit board because
00:22:07 ◼ ► The connectors can wear out because they're like a mechanical part things are going into them and out of them and you know
00:22:17 ◼ ► I'll just replace this whole little sub assembly with this little printed circuit board with the three connectors on it
00:22:22 ◼ ► I'll just rip out that ribbon cable throw this in the garbage get a new one of those plug it in
00:22:29 ◼ ► And it also provides a form of strain relief like the connectors can be on a little thing that is
00:22:34 ◼ ► Independent and is bolted directly to the back of the display. So it's you know fixed in place
00:22:39 ◼ ► Rather than you know in this arrangement. I'm assuming the openings on the back of the monitor support these connectors a little bit
00:22:47 ◼ ► But depending on how precisely engineered the plastic is and how well the printed circuit board is supported inside there apparently
00:22:57 ◼ ► But like this just seems like a design that it was made to eventually fail because it just just you know
00:23:02 ◼ ► And it makes me worry about how the connector is in the back of my pro display XDR connector
00:23:10 ◼ ► like I already dread taking that connector in and out and I tried it to never do it, but
00:23:15 ◼ ► Anyway this well the XDR connectors are like like the the holes are part of the solid metal casing like they it's those
00:23:28 ◼ ► But if you are to if you are to bend the connector down could the inside of it tilt up while using the case as a fulcrum
00:23:33 ◼ ► You know what? I mean like a levering action. Honestly, I think I think those they're so rigid from the metal that I don't
00:23:44 ◼ ► But this is this LG design seems just like a bad idea from the start that is sort of bound to fail
00:23:49 ◼ ► So if they if they fix it, they're just gonna give you a new circuit board. That's like this
00:23:54 ◼ ► Tell me then and make sure nothing ever pulls on the cord or yanks it or does anything bad to it
00:24:08 ◼ ► Just because it was a beautiful day and I wanted to have it down there in any normal situation
00:24:11 ◼ ► I would think a thing of it. But now once that LG if gay arrived did I say 4k minute ago?
00:24:25 ◼ ► Super glue a cable to the back of it because my goodness, although I can't say in this picture
00:24:37 ◼ ► Like no knowing you have a separate printed circuit board that the connectors are like laying down flat on it
00:24:41 ◼ ► Like they are in a laptop or whatever, but I guess maybe that's not possible in the back of the monitor
00:24:44 ◼ ► Anyway, I don't I don't want to pass any particular judgment from this very zoomed in picture
00:24:51 ◼ ► So it seems like it's not the best way to do connectors one of many chronic problems in the LG 5k is
00:25:01 ◼ ► I would love to have somebody go pipe up from the back of the house and say hey, did you realize the you know?
00:25:09 ◼ ► 6573 monitor exists and is exactly what you want and a lot of people have said oh, well, there here's a 4k
00:25:14 ◼ ► 27-inch monitor that's very cheap and that's not what I want like yes want is there's a million 4k 27-inch monitors, right?
00:25:28 ◼ ► monitor that is available in the United States today that is between 22 and 24 inches and 4k or
00:25:52 ◼ ► I just want as close as I can get to an iMac screen without the computer behind it if you please but
00:26:01 ◼ ► I was we discussed last show like I know this would be fine for your purposes like the LG 5k and this 4k
00:26:06 ◼ ► These are not HDR monitors. These are not mini LED. They do not have any of the the new modern specs
00:26:14 ◼ ► They don't have any of the modern specs that your laptop screen has so you're just looking for like
00:26:19 ◼ ► Oh something that will tide me over or something that you know, but you're never gonna see HDR images on these things
00:26:32 ◼ ► I just think now it is too late to buy it and when when will it be replaced in six years?
00:26:37 ◼ ► Oh, so you're saying it's too late to buy it now, but it's gonna be replaced in six years. Yes
00:26:44 ◼ ► Have you have you ever bought an Apple monitor before this is the experience right Marco and I got in just under the line
00:26:52 ◼ ► But now that you can buy a 14-inch laptop with the screen that's better. Although way way smaller. It's too late now
00:27:00 ◼ ► You just have to wait for Apple to either put out the new big iMac with a with a cool screen and then the monitor that
00:27:10 ◼ ► But I'm glad you held strong did not buy the XDR because it is not time to buy that screen
00:27:19 ◼ ► Okay, that's right I think for me and Casey and most normal people it is not time to buy the XDR that time passed and
00:27:28 ◼ ► And the thing of it is is that a lot of people have been have said in so many words sometimes
00:27:34 ◼ ► And in what is you know, this would arguably help you earn more money by helping you do your job better
00:27:50 ◼ ► Even that seemed a little spendy if I could get like an XDR or something along those lines for a couple grand
00:27:59 ◼ ► $6,000 like I just can't I can't get to the point where I think that that is a reasonable expenditure money
00:28:06 ◼ ► Even if it could make even if you know printed it had a money printer on the back that printed money
00:28:18 ◼ ► Retina like you're you're aim of like 220 points per inch or whatever. Mmm 180 or even 150 and that may be your future
00:28:33 ◼ ► Like I know a lot of I mean a lot of people as they get older and I get worse and I'm going to like 42
00:28:41 ◼ ► Because it makes things bigger as in it has lower PPI right and it's larger physically speaking. So
00:28:50 ◼ ► It's I said, it's very not very easy, but it's easier to find 4k 27 inch monitors with HDR and high refresh
00:29:04 ◼ ► I play my PlayStation on a 4k 27 inch monitor and for a while when I had like the dtk it's a little Mac mini
00:29:12 ◼ ► It's not as quote unquote not retina everything looks bigger like like a funhouse type thing and I don't need that right now
00:29:23 ◼ ► So by the time Apple comes out with like finally they made a monitor that's retina and it's 5k and it's a reasonable price
00:29:31 ◼ ► That's probably not gonna happen to you anytime soon, but I'm probably getting close to that
00:29:40 ◼ ► Maybe my eyes won't be able to see it anymore. We'll see. No, I think you're exactly right
00:29:51 ◼ ► Part of the reason why I think it is acceptable is because my eyes are garbage and so so for me it's like yeah
00:30:19 ◼ ► If let's suppose that we all agree that the LG 5k ultrafine was was really truly ultrafine
00:30:25 ◼ ► Like it was a great monitor just for the sake of discussion then fine. I wish it was Apple branded, but okay
00:30:31 ◼ ► That's no big deal. But the fact that there is literally nothing on the market that I can find that is truly
00:30:53 ◼ ► This is that tweet that Tim Cook had a tweet occasionally our temp cooks Twitter account
00:30:58 ◼ ► Occasionally tweets things of like oh here I am at the opening of Apple Store and whatever and we love all our customers
00:31:03 ◼ ► blah blah and one of them was like look at these people doing creative things with our new MacBook Pros and it showed a
00:31:08 ◼ ► Bunch of people with MacBook Pros sitting in front of this big setup doing I don't know audio video whatever they're doing
00:31:16 ◼ ► and there are a bunch of monitors attached to the MacBook Pros and none of those monitors were Apple monitors and I
00:31:20 ◼ ► Did a snarky quote tweeted going? Oh, I wonder why they're not using Apple monitors. Like that's because I
00:31:26 ◼ ► Understand where Apple's coming from and that the market is probably small, but that's true of the Mac Pro as well
00:31:33 ◼ ► Yes, Apple you still have to make it like even if it's a money-loser like just to have a complete lineup
00:31:39 ◼ ► Otherwise you're gonna take your best most perfectly arranged like glamour shot of people using your products in real-world situations
00:31:46 ◼ ► And you'd be embarrassed by things and they'd be embarrassed by the fact that there was six monitors in front of these people and none
00:31:54 ◼ ► Haha, so they're not that and the other thing the other thing they're embarrassed about is those brand new MacBook Pros with their amazing displays
00:32:01 ◼ ► And all the ports and everything had this giant mess of dongles coming out of the back of them because they were like
00:32:05 ◼ ► HDMI dongle so they could have like three HDMI monitors attached to it and everything cuz why are the monitors HDMI monitors because that's all
00:32:13 ◼ ► You know Tim Cook probably doesn't care about these things. They're like, hey they bought Apple products
00:32:18 ◼ ► It's great and we love how our products integrate with their existing monitors that they use with all those stuff
00:32:23 ◼ ► but you know, it would be nicer if we could say look we sell the complete solution and they can use all of our stuff and
00:32:40 ◼ ► So you have to get whatever they were using in that picture and it's it's not a good luck for Apple
00:32:49 ◼ ► I'm not saying only have proprietary monitors, but in the glamour shot you want to say look if you buy all Apple stuff
00:32:56 ◼ ► It's a great experience and you just can't do that to Casey's point. You made these great new laptops
00:33:01 ◼ ► They have places where you can connect monitors. What am I supposed to put in there besides the XDR?
00:33:04 ◼ ► I mean just to put things in perspective this monitor, which I'm very thankful to be able to borrow. I'm running it via DisplayPort
00:33:14 ◼ ► It's I'm going USB C to DisplayPort because if I use HDMI, I believe it's only 30 Hertz. So I
00:33:20 ◼ ► Like it's fine. Everything's fine. I'm thankful for this monitor, but it's just frustrating. It's so frustrating
00:33:42 ◼ ► What will probably actually happen is the monitors that you're juggling now whether it's the 4k's that you have now
00:33:53 ◼ ► Those are two big ifs in my mind if all that happens that will probably tide you over until
00:34:04 ◼ ► Like I expect if they have a monitor project going which was lightly rumored about a year ago
00:34:13 ◼ ► So or you know thereabouts so I think the this hole in their lineup, which is very big and very real
00:34:21 ◼ ► I think they do they did finally admit to themselves. They should fill that hole in typical Apple fashion
00:34:34 ◼ ► But when they do finally fill it'll probably be fine that being said they're probably also in a similar time frame
00:34:43 ◼ ► When that happens assuming that the larger iMac and the next large monitor come out in a similar time frame
00:34:53 ◼ ► About whether you go for the larger iMac for your desktop needs and relegate your current laptops laptop only needs
00:35:00 ◼ ► I think you really couldn't go wrong with either of those options when they come and assuming the monitor does come
00:35:09 ◼ ► I might be the only person that is that is not excited for the new 27 inch iMac or you know whatever fills that gap
00:35:18 ◼ ► Monitor accepting I know I've done a lot of you know complaining about the monitor situation especially over the last week or two
00:35:23 ◼ ► But monitor accepted I could not be happier with this Mac this MacBook Pro. It is so good. Oh my god
00:35:32 ◼ ► And they're like the SD card reader seems to be a piece of garbage, and I'm still getting some Bluetooth wonkiness
00:35:40 ◼ ► I have to assume and leaving that aside these laptops are so good. I'm so happy with this laptop
00:35:53 ◼ ► So you're gonna be even happier with the big iMac though like I think it's a no-brainer when that happens you have a decision
00:35:57 ◼ ► Make the decision is you get the new iMac because the new iMac will be faster than these laptops
00:36:02 ◼ ► You'll know it will have a good display so that problem is solved and then your laptop continues to be an awesome laptop
00:36:07 ◼ ► It's just freed from the burden of having to also be a mediocre desktop for you, right?
00:36:12 ◼ ► It will just be a great laptop, and then you'll also have a great desktop. They're great desktops, too
00:36:18 ◼ ► That's the thing like here's but you know iMac will be an even greater desktop because it will be less thermally constrained
00:36:24 ◼ ► The screen you know you're right the iMac will probably you know have to have the bigger screen and everything but that being said I
00:36:29 ◼ ► Really don't feel any constraints at least using the 16 inch as a desktop the 14 inch if you do like sustained long testing on
00:36:37 ◼ ► The 14 inch it does thermally throttle sooner than the 16 inch does but in practice most people aren't doing that kind of work
00:36:58 ◼ ► You know the desktops weren't on fire the way the laptops were like the desktop lineup from you know even the 27 inch regular
00:37:14 ◼ ► It's been a pretty great choice and those those have been really good especially once they you know when they went retina
00:37:22 ◼ ► What an amazing computer for its entire existence and then the iMac Pro took that model and made it even better and again
00:37:30 ◼ ► Amazing computer even though they only ever made one of them amazing computer amazing product line the new Mac Pro even though it's ridiculous
00:37:46 ◼ ► That also amazing computer for what it is like they really have been making great desktops hell even you know
00:38:05 ◼ ► They haven't been making amazing laptops since 2016 or so like that that's been there's been all these compromises and so to finally have
00:38:18 ◼ ► You know from last year's m1 based models and and you know making them even better now with this new line of MacBook Pros
00:38:24 ◼ ► Oh my god. They're so good and frankly as I mentioned in my in my kind of review episode of these
00:38:51 ◼ ► The the only thing I feel is I think I still have to open it up to turn it on if it's powered down
00:39:02 ◼ ► But that's only because I don't have Apple's keyboard like even that problem could be solved now if I wanted to be so
00:39:21 ◼ ► Like if you want to if you're interested in using clamshell mode or even I haven't tried side-by-side mode
00:39:34 ◼ ► The previous than any of the Intel ones and hell even the power PC ones. These are so good
00:40:00 ◼ ► Especially if they come up with a 20 core version of the iMac you're probably gonna get that too
00:40:07 ◼ ► So you have a more your your decision Marco is trickier because do you want to give up 6k for 5k?
00:40:13 ◼ ► depending on what no big the iMac screen is and so but Casey's decision is straightforward is
00:40:17 ◼ ► You get to use your laptop as a laptop and you get a desktop with a good screen that that's faster than your laptop
00:40:22 ◼ ► So it'll be straightforward for Casey when the big iMac comes out will it though because I just spent like
00:40:37 ◼ ► But I just feel like I've always been in the opinion that let a desktop be a desktop little laptop be a laptop
00:40:41 ◼ ► Don't try to use one for both if you want to spend six thousand dollars on monitor then you can be in Marco's land
00:40:47 ◼ ► But honestly Marco's only gonna be in that land until though something until something with a ridiculously higher number
00:40:51 ◼ ► Of course comes out in which case he'll jump ship to that. It would it would probably have to be a Mac Pro though
00:40:56 ◼ ► I wouldn't I don't think I would jump ship for an iMac because of the monitor thing, you know
00:41:01 ◼ ► But but I but a Mac Pro would be tempting I think or like a mini Mac Pro this half-size thing
00:41:10 ◼ ► You're just waiting to see something that is appreciably faster than then what you've got and you don't have any issues right now
00:41:29 ◼ ► I'm I'm nearing that point where like things start to level off with Xcode builds of my scale
00:41:35 ◼ ► So I might not even need the Mac Pro when it comes out and I know everyone's gonna make fun of me for even thinking
00:41:49 ◼ ► So, you know, we'll see what the the compile times are like again. You are using more Swift. So yeah
00:42:03 ◼ ► But even even potentially more interesting is what happens if we get some sort of screaming Mac Mini that has you know, basically the 16-inch
00:42:11 ◼ ► MacBook Pro guts but in a Mac Mini because I think I think if I were Marco that would be pretty appealing
00:42:16 ◼ ► I mean you you're here. So you tell me I'm wrong, but I got to imagine. Okay, tell me why
00:42:23 ◼ ► Maybe but but like now that I've now that I've joined the world of desktop laptop for the time being
00:42:32 ◼ ► Trip where I want to actually bring like all of my stuff with me all of my work all of my files or just have
00:42:38 ◼ ► The biggest screen I can have I can bring the giant laptop and I I have my computer like
00:42:43 ◼ ► Really, you know if there's not significant compromises for using a laptop as a desktop
00:42:51 ◼ ► Then there's no reason to get a desktop. The only reason we get desktops is because usually there are huge trade-offs involved
00:43:12 ◼ ► Yeah, we're in this weird situation where that where the powerful desktops have not dip and have not gotten the the arm
00:43:19 ◼ ► System on a chip treatment so right and they will like, you know next, you know next summer next fall
00:43:35 ◼ ► I mean for instance like typical things that that have always been problems in the past whenever I've tried to use a laptop as a
00:43:49 ◼ ► With these current like with the 16 inch that is just not a thing. I haven't tried using the 14
00:43:57 ◼ ► This thing is quieter under load full load like full sustained a hundred percent CPU load for hours
00:44:06 ◼ ► It's quieter than my iMac Pro was and that was a very quiet machine. That was remarkable
00:44:18 ◼ ► Because the Mac Pro has like real fans that like this thing is is so quiet and runs so cool
00:44:24 ◼ ► Like and I can you know, I mentioned how I keep it in a vertical like a little wood clampy stand
00:44:35 ◼ ► I can feel the temperature of the air and the velocity of the air coming out of the machine
00:44:39 ◼ ► I almost never feel anything or I'll feel a very slight air current and it's barely warm at all
00:44:46 ◼ ► Or it's or it's just cool like this thing the thermals and the noise are so good on this
00:44:53 ◼ ► So that's you know major compromise number one with desktop laptop situations out the window. This thing is
00:45:18 ◼ ► You know the air coming out was warm, but it was nothing like any Intel machine of any class
00:45:27 ◼ ► Usually using a desktop as a laptop is a bit unreliable especially regarding sleep/wake and the connection or disconnecting of screens
00:45:35 ◼ ► That doesn't seem to be a thing with any of the m1 based computers the in the MacBook Air and and you know
00:45:41 ◼ ► These new MacBook Pros like so far the Apple silicon, you know use in clamshell or out of clamshell plugging in external displays
00:45:49 ◼ ► This connection or displays all that stuff seems to be way more reliable with the m1 based stuff than previous machines
00:46:14 ◼ ► Come back to like, you know, not when they're suspended, but when they're just you know, the screen is off
00:46:19 ◼ ► There's kind of what is this? What is the name of that when it's not fully asleep at screens off?
00:46:24 ◼ ► point being when it the when screen is off and you you know hit a button in order wake the screen up the screen wakes
00:46:28 ◼ ► Instantly and any other monitor any other monitor? Yeah, well, maybe not the XDR actually, but any other monitor I've ever seen
00:46:39 ◼ ► It is remarkable how quick these m1 max wake up and and also switching resolutions like just for grins
00:46:46 ◼ ► I was doing that just a moment ago on this very very old LG 4k monitor and it's astonishing
00:46:59 ◼ ► Stopwatch and wait 15 seconds for flicker flicker flicker black screen flicker flicker black screen
00:47:04 ◼ ► It's it's instant when you switch resolutions, which sounds like such a silly thing, but it's so delightful
00:47:15 ◼ ► Unbelievable how few compromises these machines have and for that reason, I don't know again leaving the displays aside
00:47:28 ◼ ► It would be on another computer and because I really don't have compromises on this machine
00:47:35 ◼ ► Yeah, and and there's so many other ones too like other compromises that you would typically get with laptops
00:47:40 ◼ ► You know, they're usually like the the performance ceiling would not be as high because they don't have the thermals
00:47:51 ◼ ► Chances are like following the current rumors and their current apparent strategy so far that they've had with the m1 series of chips and the
00:48:07 ◼ ► Running them at the same or very close or close enough clock speeds and you know, so I wouldn't actually expect
00:48:17 ◼ ► CPU performance between the families now what they do on the GPU side that that's gonna depend, you know
00:48:23 ◼ ► I would suspect they would they're gonna beef that up in various ways as rumored but but like, you know
00:48:28 ◼ ► If it ends up that the MacBook Pro is gonna have you know, two of these chips or you know
00:48:40 ◼ ► That's gonna be mostly the same performance between the MacBook Pro and the Mac Pro most of the time
00:48:45 ◼ ► It's just gonna add my add more, you know parallelism for you know, very large parallel tasks
00:48:50 ◼ ► But if the MacBook Pro is already reaching the point of diminishing returns for Xcode builds of my size and scale
00:48:56 ◼ ► Then I'm not gonna really need anything faster it for a lot of a lot of cases until I start using Swift UI
00:49:05 ◼ ► And I think this is a thing even people who are not as obsessed with this as I obviously am
00:49:24 ◼ ► but it's still just like you've disrupted your working environment because now you need to go use your laptop and having them separate means that your
00:49:35 ◼ ► Smush it screen to be smaller or remove a screen and suddenly it used to think it had two screens now
00:49:45 ◼ ► I did it at work for when I was still going to the office for many many years and as we said in this program
00:49:56 ◼ ► laptop at the exact same resolution as the monitor on my desk and I could do that because I had these
00:50:02 ◼ ► Pre-retina things and I ran the laptop at the the highest like whatever it is the most scaled
00:50:07 ◼ ► Resolution right and I just man my my desktop monitor at its native resolution was at 1920 by 1200 or whatever
00:50:14 ◼ ► So I was 1920 by 1200 both and I mirrored displays. So even when I yanked it out, I knew nothing moved but that
00:50:21 ◼ ► Was had its own compromises 1920 by 1200 on a 15 inch laptop was not great and it was kind of blurry and 1920 by
00:50:31 ◼ ► But that was the compromise I chose there and I don't think you could do that in the modern world nor would I want to
00:50:36 ◼ ► So if I had an XDR and a laptop attached or even a 16 inch laptop and I disconnected that laptop
00:50:52 ◼ ► Taking of unplugging a laptop from his desktop configuration and taking it with you. Yeah, there is a lot of disruption that happens
00:50:57 ◼ ► You know, maybe you'll just get external disks attached to the monitor like it's all like desktops
00:51:10 ◼ ► There are utilities like there's one called stay that that purports to fix that window or even problem
00:51:20 ◼ ► We all know but but but the thing is like the OS like the OS could do this better third-party apps do it better
00:51:28 ◼ ► You just have a 16 inch like something's got to give like there's no solution to this with software
00:51:34 ◼ ► You now have less space for your stuff, especially if you had stuff arranged carefully on both screens. Where does it all go?
00:52:08 ◼ ► You might be better off getting it as as your desktop just in case you might need to move it
00:52:17 ◼ ► You just think of it like it's like a car up on blocks in your front lawn. It never goes anywhere
00:52:25 ◼ ► Yeah, but but like I think if you're if you're gonna be like super mobile back and forth all the time then yeah get a laptop
00:52:45 ◼ ► Then it being a laptop is always going to be better because even if you hardly it's it's like people who buy SUVs
00:52:54 ◼ ► Even if you almost never do that's you still have that capability if you need it if there were no other compromises
00:53:01 ◼ ► You know, it's but there are the SUVs have higher rollover. I know I know I use more fuel and they're more subject to crosswinds
00:53:08 ◼ ► And like it just like you know, I know but but imagine if there were no if there were no compromises, right?
00:53:13 ◼ ► Well, but there are still are some like you it's way better than it used to be for sure
00:53:21 ◼ ► All the components are sort of wedged in there and batteries can expand and do weird stuff and there's not as much room for dust
00:53:28 ◼ ► To get caught and like they're doing wrong. They're way better than they used to be and right now
00:53:32 ◼ ► They are the best desktop that Apple sells, but I expect this to be a temporary condition
00:53:36 ◼ ► it just depends on how much value you put on the other stuff and and how lucky you get in avoiding the laptop whammies because
00:53:44 ◼ ► I would rather have a purpose-built desktop like an iMac then the laptop even if they were exactly the same speed and I never
00:53:51 ◼ ► Disconnected them just because like why do I want to pay for a monitor that I'm gonna keep folded up all the time if I?
00:54:01 ◼ ► You think the desktops are gonna be any different given the way the iMac's are we don't know yet, but you know the 24-inch
00:54:07 ◼ ► I Mac that is not a it's not a different distinction, but maybe the big one it will be but yeah
00:54:13 ◼ ► Just like the laptops are you know they're made to be small and portable and they expect you to carry them around
00:54:26 ◼ ► Then the only reason to buy them right now is because it's the best desktop that Apple sells
00:54:30 ◼ ► I don't know man. I keep coming back to I think Marco's right that with so few trade-offs
00:54:36 ◼ ► I mean and in your you're hanging your hat on things that just really aren't true anymore like oh, there's more space well
00:54:42 ◼ ► It's all crazy look at the iMac 24 inch. You just said it yourself. It's all crammed into this
00:54:49 ◼ ► That's this is that's the right thing to do, but I assume that I mean certainly the Mac Pro will be less compromised in terms
00:54:59 ◼ ► But it might not be so we have to wait and see what Apple does with these other desktops already
00:55:02 ◼ ► I would say the Mac the M1 Mac mini incredibly spacious like this empty little empty space is not there right?
00:55:08 ◼ ► Obviously, it's not the M1 Pro and the M1 Mac's inside there, but the Mac mini is suddenly a cavernous
00:55:14 ◼ ► You know it's got this massively overbuilt power supply right from the old Intel Mac mini this tiny little
00:55:21 ◼ ► Logic board with system on a chip on it, and I feel I think I would feel more confident about the long longevity of an M1
00:55:36 ◼ ► And it's much tighter and there's more room for stuff to get caught in the the M1 Mac mini is
00:55:40 ◼ ► Just an empty cavern an overbuilt empty cavern you know it's probably gonna be fine like it's not that big of a difference
00:55:53 ◼ ► It just means that they're one they are falling below the threshold of people most people caring
00:55:58 ◼ ► But definitely not falling the below threshold of me caring and in the end it is a waste to buy a screen and a keyboard
00:56:05 ◼ ► Well, I mean I think ultimately the the biggest reason to get the new iMac when it comes out again
00:56:13 ◼ ► But the biggest reason to get the new iMac that when it comes out is going to be the screen problem like it's gonna be
00:56:20 ◼ ► Especially if they have they don't have a monitor with it, and that is the the biggest selling
00:56:24 ◼ ► But you're basically buying a monitor, and it's like I guess that has a computer attached
00:56:27 ◼ ► Yeah, like the screen problem is gonna be a big driver and then secondarily to that yeah desktops
00:56:36 ◼ ► It'll have things like built-in Ethernet that these laptops don't have and we'll see but yeah
00:56:50 ◼ ► I mean so so I think like they like yeah, there are still reasons, but I think what Casey was said
00:56:57 ◼ ► But they're mattering less and less over time and and they matter less now than ever with that one exception of
00:57:03 ◼ ► The monitor question which again we keep coming back to this you know bringing it back around like that's why it's such a glaring hole
00:57:09 ◼ ► But if you're either willing to set six thousand dollars on fire or have some other solution to your monitor needs on your desktop besides
00:57:16 ◼ ► Relying on a built-in one for it for like an iMac if you have the monitor question answered
00:57:21 ◼ ► The MacBook Pro is the best desktop Apple makes and I don't think the new iMacs whenever they come out will be
00:57:36 ◼ ► That's usually a safe bet, but you have gone back and forth from laptop desktop laptop desktop
00:57:43 ◼ ► Eventually you'll be in a desktop again for a little while, so we'll see I mean most like I mean
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00:58:12 ◼ ► I love so simple. It's fully gestural the design is great super colorful musical if you have the sound on
00:58:20 ◼ ► I loved it as a shopping list too, and you probably also played the game heads up kind of like charades
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00:58:31 ◼ ► Those apps are actually designed by the same team of just four people and for the first time ever
00:58:37 ◼ ► They're looking for their fifth developer teammate, so if your developer listen to this they stay small on purpose
00:58:43 ◼ ► Everything is done in-house and custom design apps are made perfectly for their purpose
00:58:52 ◼ ► They're working on clear 2 and 2 other secret projects, so you'd be working on both heads up and clear 2 and the new projects
00:59:02 ◼ ► They're looking for fit for the right fit pay is not an issue depending on experience level could be upwards of
00:59:07 ◼ ► $200,000 and include partnership profit share so if you've been feeling stifled or looking for a new start in 2022
00:59:39 ◼ ► Apple announcing self-service repair this dropped like a month ago now, but we just haven't had a chance to get to it
00:59:46 ◼ ► And so this is Apple announced self-service repair which will allow customers who are comfortable with completing their own repairs access to Apple genuine
00:59:58 ◼ ► It starts on the iPhone with the display battery and camera this all began in the US in early 2022
01:00:04 ◼ ► following the repair customers return their used part for recycling will receive credit toward their purchase and
01:00:12 ◼ ► Apple has nearly doubled the number of service locations with access to Apple genuine parts tools and training including more than
01:00:18 ◼ ► 2800 independent repair providers the rapidly expanding independent repair provider program originally launched the US in 2019 since grown to more to more than 200 countries
01:00:27 ◼ ► Enabling independent repair shops to access the same training parts and tools as other Apple authorized service providers
01:00:39 ◼ ► Interesting I don't think that I would be the kind of person that would want to open up my own phone and replace a display
01:00:49 ◼ ► So the the context for this announcement if you're not gonna keep up with things in this world
01:00:55 ◼ ► You're like alright, I guess whatever this seems weird or I'm not interesting or whatever
01:00:59 ◼ ► But there is a context for Apple making this announcement and that context is the challenge of people with broken Apple products
01:01:18 ◼ ► Youtuber Lewis Rossman will put a link to his video responding to this, but he does the type of repairs you know
01:01:44 ◼ ► Let's say you have one of those stupid laptops or everything was all attached to the top case and your stupid keyboard went bad and
01:01:51 ◼ ► And you don't want to pay that much you just can't you just fix the keyboard no we have to replace everything right
01:01:55 ◼ ► That that same thing plays out a lot of different ways. Oh, I cracked my screen on my laptop
01:02:08 ◼ ► We have to replace the aluminum top of the case and the backlight back in the old days and the LCD thing like
01:02:18 ◼ ► Oh one chip on my logic board is bad. Can't you just replace that chip nope sorry new logic board?
01:02:32 ◼ ► You would think okay? Well that's what Apple wants to do they want to give you the best repair possible
01:02:36 ◼ ► They don't want to replace individual chips because when you're placing individual chips
01:02:39 ◼ ► It's unreliable and they just go bad again, and it's problems with corrosion and blah blah blah
01:02:43 ◼ ► You know they just they just want to give you the best repair possible and that costs a lot of money
01:02:50 ◼ ► That's where the tricky part gets in where else are you going to go and so here's Apple bragging about their independent repair
01:02:56 ◼ ► providers and how they've doubled the number of those and how they're getting more and more places that
01:03:01 ◼ ► You have genuine Apple parts, which is another problem because lots of places will repair your stuff, but put in sort of like
01:03:05 ◼ ► Equivalent parts counterfeit parts you know parts that are not genuine Apple parts. Let's say that might cost less money or whatever
01:03:16 ◼ ► Customers may be okay with but Apple isn't because what if you know there's liability problems or especially if it's involving the battery or something
01:03:27 ◼ ► Better network of independent repair shops that use Apple parts and the do things the Apple way
01:03:39 ◼ ► That says we will do the repairs the way we're supposed to and in exchange you will allow us to get Apple genuine parts and Apple
01:03:53 ◼ ► Those places are under constraints due to that agreement with Apple. They're still not allowed to do repairs that Apple thinks
01:04:09 ◼ ► But it's an ad that only old people even know about it remember when I was on TV and people watch them
01:04:18 ◼ ► They're okay having a non genuine Apple thing if that means the screen on their phone works again. They don't care
01:04:27 ◼ ► And if they go to an independent Apple retailer and that retailer gets genuine Apple parts at the genuine Apple price and has to do
01:04:35 ◼ ► Where it's not probably not going to be that much cheaper or to the degree that it will be cheaper
01:04:40 ◼ ► It's just cutting into the margins of the independent shop like they're not they're not empowered
01:04:48 ◼ ► Like what problem is being solved the problem from consumers perspective is I have a broken thing
01:04:53 ◼ ► I want to pay the least amount possible to get it fixed and I'm willing to compromise on like
01:05:01 ◼ ► It would be better if you replace the whole logic board like I acknowledge that but I don't want to pay $900
01:05:06 ◼ ► I want to pay 200. It's a big difference in money, right or I just want my screen to be fixed
01:05:26 ◼ ► This program of allowing people to do things a genuine Apple way with genuine Apple parts is not helping and so people like Lewis Rossman
01:05:37 ◼ ► Apple won't sell them and the people who make the parts like the actual vendors that Apple buys them from
01:05:42 ◼ ► Also won't sell him the parts. So he literally can't get this one little, you know, $2 chip
01:05:52 ◼ ► He's got videos and YouTube of him replacing it and it costs way less than buying a whole new logic board
01:05:58 ◼ ► But this is a trade-off that consumers are willing to make but Apple says consumers shouldn't be able to have that choice
01:06:02 ◼ ► Consumers should only be allowed to repair their things in the way that Apple wants them to be repaired
01:06:14 ◼ ► How much say should Apple have as a vendor in how I can decide to get my thing repaired and this program
01:06:25 ◼ ► You also have to pay the genuine Apple price to get the genuine Apple parts and repair things genuine Apple way and they're starting with
01:06:33 ◼ ► Display battery and camera which are things that you know break a lot on phones and same thing with Macs
01:06:37 ◼ ► They're not going to sell you the little chips that you need to fix a little thing on a logic board
01:06:41 ◼ ► They're not going to sell you just this part of the screen instead of the whole screen assembly. Apple's not going to do that
01:06:59 ◼ ► So Apple is essentially boxing out independent repair shops from doing things. Not the genuine Apple way
01:07:18 ◼ ► By cutting into their own profit margins by saying okay Apple wants X amount of profit margins because they have to maintain a fancy store
01:07:28 ◼ ► I'm in a smaller place that doesn't have like Italian marble tiles on the wall or whatever the hell
01:07:33 ◼ ► Apple has on their Apple stores and I'll pass that savings on to you by taking less of a profit on this screen repair
01:07:54 ◼ ► I'm just saying that the problem that is that the context the surrounding context of like hey
01:07:59 ◼ ► What is the problem with people getting stuff repaired that's not being fundamentally changed by this program. It's helping
01:08:09 ◼ ► But still Apple is essentially controlling from top to bottom exactly the kind of repairs that can be done to its products by anybody
01:08:17 ◼ ► Marco any thoughts? No, John covered it really well. I think this is going to change things in small ways not big ways
01:08:32 ◼ ► But the bigger problem like the big question is should Apple be able to decide how I can get my thing repaired and the answer
01:08:43 ◼ ► It doesn't look like they're stopping you from doing anything, but they really are and it's kind of crappy in some ways
01:08:50 ◼ ► It's also kind of better because you got these things to have with you my is the scare tactic that always uses
01:08:57 ◼ ► Battery is gonna explode because you use a cheap battery and they poke the battery when they were changing your screen and everything setting on
01:09:02 ◼ ► Fire and everyone's gonna die and flames right like that's Apple will always tell you that you're all gonna die in flames
01:09:20 ◼ ► And Honda does not force you to rebuy the whole engine if you just need a new head gasket
01:09:32 ◼ ► We won't just sell a head gasket you need to buy the entire head that that's not how Honda works
01:09:37 ◼ ► Imagine if they did imagine if first they were only you could only take it to the Honda dealership
01:09:45 ◼ ► You can't just buy a head gasket because we feel like if you just replace the head gasket
01:09:49 ◼ ► That's not a good repair. You just need to replace the whole top of the engine, right? That's the situation
01:09:53 ◼ ► We're in with computers and cars are way more dangerous than computers at this point right in terms of potential for instant death, right?
01:10:07 ◼ ► They could veer off into an immovable object in any second, but somehow we're okay with doing with cars, but computers
01:10:23 ◼ ► We think it's better that you can take your car to someplace other than the dealer and I don't think anybody if you're interested
01:10:28 ◼ ► It said hey, we've decided that you're no longer going to be allowed to get your car up at any place other than dealer
01:10:36 ◼ ► Tesla tries very hard to be like Apple in this regard of not allowing third-party repairs this whole YouTube videos
01:10:45 ◼ ► I don't think we anyone would agree to a new law that says your car can only be repaired at the dealer because we know
01:11:03 ◼ ► I guess that that you can buy any part of this car any one of these thousands and thousands of parts that make up
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01:13:15 ◼ ► The iPhone was a big risk for Apple in part because it didn't have a hard of keyboard instead
01:13:21 ◼ ► They opted for the flexibility of a virtual one and this usage a virtual interface was a smashing success
01:13:29 ◼ ► Regular function keys with virtual ones and the Mac laptops like like they did in the touch bar. This appears to have been a failure
01:13:35 ◼ ► However, why do you think the use of a virtual interface works so well in one context, but not the other
01:13:39 ◼ ► I have a couple of theories. First of all when I am using the virtual keyboard on a phone
01:13:48 ◼ ► Whereas I am a touch typist and so it is very rare that I am looking down at my keyboard
01:14:09 ◼ ► Create programs in applications for these Macs were doing it on iMacs which didn't have a touch bar
01:14:19 ◼ ► But those are two reasons I see why it never really took off and then there were people like Marco who just never gave it
01:14:29 ◼ ► You're right that the fact is that when you are touching a screen that you are looking at that's a very different thing
01:14:39 ◼ ► Traditionally like typically most people typing on physical laptop keyboards most of the time are not looking at the keyboards when they're typing on them
01:14:50 ◼ ► Required you to move your eyes every single time down to the keyboard to be able to reliably use it
01:14:57 ◼ ► Whereas with the phone you are looking at the screen the entire time you are actively using it
01:15:19 ◼ ► but it enabled such additional features like the screen opening up when the keyboard wasn't there into much more screen area and
01:15:28 ◼ ► other kinds of customization or anything else so it it allowed other benefits that let us forgive the
01:15:35 ◼ ► Downsides of the virtual keyboard over a physical one the touch bar didn't do that the touch bar
01:15:46 ◼ ► Compared to the hardware keys to justify the loss of the hardware keys that was the biggest problem is that?
01:16:09 ◼ ► But it wasn't better enough. It didn't provide enough benefit in in you know to offset the ways in which it was worse whereas the iPhone
01:16:16 ◼ ► It's the opposite the iPhone keyboard like yeah, it's worse than hardware keyboards in some ways
01:16:21 ◼ ► But all these benefits came from doing that that we we put up with the with those downsides
01:16:27 ◼ ► And and it was overall a very good trade-off. Yeah, and the touch bar just didn't have that
01:16:32 ◼ ► Yep, I agree. There was the that's the big difference that what do I get in exchange for this in exchange for this weird thing?
01:16:38 ◼ ► What do I any what you get on the phone is like well you get like double the screen size without making the device bigger
01:16:43 ◼ ► How does that feel and it's you know it's such a massive win and the other thing I had going for it is
01:16:55 ◼ ► Laptops can have full-size keyboards on them that are just you know they're fine full-size keys full-size, right?
01:17:03 ◼ ► Replace part of that with the screen then with all these compromises or whatever like it's easier to replace the crappy tiny
01:17:08 ◼ ► keyboard with a slightly crappier on-screen keyboard in exchange for getting double the screen space and
01:17:14 ◼ ► Enabling a whole world of new applications and by the way when you don't need the keyboard
01:17:21 ◼ ► We're going to compromise your full-size keyboard that you like setting aside the butterfly business or whatever and in exchange you don't
01:17:30 ◼ ► Get much, maybe you get some benefit, but also you get some downsides of having to move your eyes, so that's why like it's
01:17:40 ◼ ► it's all about the trade-offs you have to look at what are the pros and what are the cons and the
01:17:43 ◼ ► The balance for getting the software keyboard on the phone was just you know witness the entire world of phones now
01:17:49 ◼ ► Such a huge win that it more than makes up with compromises and the touch bar look at Apple's laptop lineup
01:18:11 ◼ ► You know if it was going to have some positive value the promise was look we can change all these function keys to be
01:18:18 ◼ ► Anything you want depending on applications and needs and preferences you can have all the dynamic you know changing stuff
01:18:24 ◼ ► But I think what we ultimately learned from that is what most people need from laptops in that area is things like well
01:18:34 ◼ ► I might want media playback controls there all things that the keyboard already offered in the function keys and
01:18:41 ◼ ► You kind of want those to like most people want those to be available most of the time on laptops
01:18:47 ◼ ► And then once you throw in touch ID on one side escape on the other like well to make that area
01:19:00 ◼ ► You know that fixed in place, and that's gonna solve most people needed most of the time
01:19:11 ◼ ► Not as good and not as necessary as I think people would have would have thought if they would have first come up with
01:19:25 ◼ ► Dominated by the keyboard because the phones had to be so small right that you were doubling the screen size
01:19:36 ◼ ► You know why would we take half of the surface of this device and put it on a thing that can never change?
01:19:45 ◼ ► We can have a keyboard that just accepts numbers and we can have a keyboard with a dot-com button when you're entering an email address
01:19:49 ◼ ► And like look at that you know look at the benefits of a screen you can put anything you want in a screen
01:20:05 ◼ ► You could just dedicate the bottom of the screen can you call it the control strip bring a blast in the past from classic Mac OS
01:20:11 ◼ ► You can put the touch bar on the actual screen and then make the screen a touchscreen Apple
01:20:15 ◼ ► And just dedicate a region of the bottom of the screen to that if you think if you think it's a useful thing to have
01:20:25 ◼ ► It's the screen you've got a whole screen for that and do it like there's lots of interface elements that are like that in the Mac
01:20:34 ◼ ► Taking away the physical function keys that you can always reliably find the volume up and down a mute button
01:20:39 ◼ ► Because it never moves and it works like a button and you can feel for it and so on and so forth
01:20:43 ◼ ► Taking that away, which by the way was stupid you could have a touch bar on top of the function keys
01:20:47 ◼ ► It's not like you didn't have room on the surface of these giant laptops anyway taking that away
01:20:54 ◼ ► Alrighty Arien Anaha writes. Why is chromium's dominance considered bad for the open web?
01:21:00 ◼ ► I understand the chromium browsers have poor support for Apple devices, but isn't that because Apple uses WebKit
01:21:05 ◼ ► What would we lose or what would Google gain if all competing browsers were based on chromium?
01:21:09 ◼ ► pros of greater greater website compatibility and interoperability of extensions seems like a massive upside to every of
01:21:21 ◼ ► Setting aside the obvious disadvantages of like a monoculture both biologically speaking in the various biological
01:21:36 ◼ ► You know based on chromium or whatever the open source thing is a bit of a sort of get out of jail free card that people
01:21:49 ◼ ► Having something being open source is great and all but for projects like chromium big complicated projects
01:22:09 ◼ ► Whoever does has the most employees working on it whoever pays people to work on it whoever writes the most lines of code
01:22:15 ◼ ► By default controls that project. Oh, it's open source. Don't we all share this together?
01:22:21 ◼ ► Good luck competing with hundreds of Google engineers, right? You can't they're going to make all the changes
01:22:27 ◼ ► You can't compete with that because they just put more money and more people on the project and therefore they control it
01:22:32 ◼ ► So even it's like oh, it's not Google controls it chromium is an open source project. It's controlled by all of us
01:22:39 ◼ ► It's controlled by Google because Google puts the money in and everyone else is volunteering in their spare time or whatever
01:22:48 ◼ ► The millions of dollars that we funnel into them through Google searches and search ads and stuff, right?
01:22:52 ◼ ► So having an important part of our computing experience being de facto controlled by one company
01:23:03 ◼ ► And yeah Apple uses a WebKit not too long ago WebKit and chromium were based on the same
01:23:11 ◼ ► But now it's based on blink or whatever, but I understand chromium is bigger than just the browser engine
01:23:17 ◼ ► it would be bad for all of us if Google and advertising company was the one and only vendor of
01:23:22 ◼ ► The major component used to power our web browsers and the fact that it's open source doesn't change that
01:23:46 ◼ ► When the iMac hasn't been refreshed for ages the iMac Pro was a clear statement of intent
01:23:54 ◼ ► I'd be interested in your thoughts on what is the incentive for Apple to keep producing the Mac Pro to serve the small and
01:23:59 ◼ ► shrinking number of users who are not served by other Macs. I feel like this is one of those ones that we
01:24:03 ◼ ► Get asked like annually and apparently it's that time of year again. So John take it away
01:24:16 ◼ ► It's still the same case that's ever been like luckily. We don't have to remake this case Apple agrees with us
01:24:24 ◼ ► Haven't said that they're producing an R Mac Pro, but they're producing an R Mac Pro like
01:24:33 ◼ ► computing hardware not because they make a lot of money off of them or you know selling lots of people or just because for the
01:24:39 ◼ ► Same reason that the analogy I made in this old blog post. It's the same reason the car makers make what they call
01:24:48 ◼ ► You probably lose money on the whole project, but it's important place support serves so many different purposes
01:24:56 ◼ ► It's a place where you push the envelope things like the XDR which is a ridiculous product
01:25:01 ◼ ► It was the first HDR display like it was pushing the envelope and what was possible and it taught people inside Apple
01:25:11 ◼ ► It also a role that I don't think I talked about in this blog post and people don't really consider but like
01:25:22 ◼ ► It helps you retain employees if you have like your very best employees, maybe they want to make the cool
01:25:28 ◼ ► You know supercar even though that's not an important you'd rather have them be making the next Toyota Camry, right?
01:25:34 ◼ ► but if you want to retain that engineer this great, you know, this is a great automotive designer and
01:25:38 ◼ ► They want to be on the LFA project put them on the LFA project. You will retain that employee. You will make them happier
01:25:45 ◼ ► They will improve their skills burning through all your money making this ridiculous supercar
01:25:58 ◼ ► So having you know, if you are on the Mac Pro team and this sort of like twist turns your propeller
01:26:08 ◼ ► You want and if you can't get it Apple you go elsewhere you work on Threadripper at AMD or something?
01:26:17 ◼ ► Having projects like this is important for the morale of the company. There's a point for employee retention. It's important for R&D
01:26:31 ◼ ► You need to sell a machine that they can use to do their real job. No, there's not a lot of them
01:26:35 ◼ ► No, they're not gonna make you a lot of money. But you if you want in that market, this is the price of entry. So
01:26:46 ◼ ► They said they're gonna make a modular Mac Pro. They made one. It's pretty cool. I think they're gonna make another one
01:27:01 ◼ ► Like if you just look at the current lineup, even though everything I was saying earlier
01:27:06 ◼ ► There are still those higher needs or more specialized needs that the current products won't cover
01:27:13 ◼ ► Well, you know, even if we got a nice iMac that's very similar in hardware to the current MacBook Pros
01:27:21 ◼ ► But if you're like, you know a professional video producer, you're gonna want more GPU grunt
01:27:28 ◼ ► You know, you're gonna want more bandwidth. You're gonna want more, you know storage options and higher even higher RAM capacity
01:27:46 ◼ ► Even though that hardware is fantastic because as time goes on as that hardware can get more fantastic
01:27:53 ◼ ► The needs of high-end customers also continue to increase, you know video gets higher bitrate people do more advanced processing of things
01:28:05 ◼ ► The bar is always getting getting raised and there's always going to be like whatever most people are able to get away with
01:28:15 ◼ ► they're gonna want more and they're gonna be able to use more and they're gonna be willing to pay for more and
01:28:19 ◼ ► And so the Mac Pro is going to address those markets, you know similarly to how the current one addresses them
01:28:35 ◼ ► Therefore they should keep making it and including for all the reasons John just said as well
01:28:38 ◼ ► Plus it gives us more Mac Pro stuff to talk about exactly. What would we talk about if they didn't make Mac Pros?
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01:28:55 ◼ ► ATBI.fm/join, maybe if enough of you join we can get Casey to waffle more about an XDR and we will talk to you next week
01:30:11 ◼ ► But honestly, you should re-listen to the episodes in order and so you already know the source of my beeping turned out to be my freezer
01:30:16 ◼ ► I said I'm solving the problem by buying a new freezer. Just a brief update on this unfortunately ongoing saga. Oh, no
01:30:25 ◼ ► There was a whole rigamarole about preparing the way that maybe I'll talk about on rectiffs, but whatever
01:30:29 ◼ ► Please freezier gets delivered gets installed. I killed myself trying to level it again more rectiffs content probably
01:30:41 ◼ ► Painfully carried the old one up and out and put it in the garage while waiting to for someone to give it away to
01:30:55 ◼ ► It was okay, but then like it was confused about whether the door was open or closed I'm like well the door just did yet
01:31:02 ◼ ► So they'd sorted that out but like and the little high temperature light was on and like well
01:31:24 ◼ ► No, there's no doubt like it is constant. It is it's the high temperature alarm. It's constant beeping like about that fast
01:31:29 ◼ ► No, I sound like at least you know what the freezer. Yeah, I know it's the freezer and it's not a song
01:31:35 ◼ ► You know we did get like a freezer thermometer to see is it really high temperature, and it's not it's negative 20 degrees inside
01:31:47 ◼ ► If you google for this online you will find lots of people with this exact problem with this exact model which unfortunately yeah
01:31:59 ◼ ► Made the pretty quick call to say I am NOT going to try to deal with this. I'm just sending it back. Yep smart
01:32:06 ◼ ► Yeah, so I it's you know sending everything with the whole kovat and shipping and blah blah blah
01:32:12 ◼ ► The earliest they could come and pick it up is the 20th so oh geez like three weeks from now. Yep
01:32:19 ◼ ► So it's a good thing we didn't get rid of the old freezer because the old freezer is up in the garage right now
01:32:23 ◼ ► And we have transferred the food out of the downstairs freezer and put it into the garage freezer and unplug the downstairs one
01:32:44 ◼ ► You know you have to go down there and press the alarm reset button so we lasted a few days on that and we're like no
01:33:36 ◼ ► You just if you're familiar with them you can say that's the same freezer with different brandings right so you can get that one
01:33:40 ◼ ► Or you can get various rebranded versions of the one that's in the basement, which is a GE
01:33:56 ◼ ► But like you'd have to wait months for them to come over on a boat from somewhere right only those two are in stock anywhere
01:34:04 ◼ ► Pretend that the one in the garage is cured, and then I guess carry it back down to the basement
01:34:13 ◼ ► Especially now that's considered. It's filled with frozen food, which we have to remove and would be like a time pressure thing right
01:34:22 ◼ ► Buy a new one probably just buy a new slightly larger because you know of course slightly larger
01:34:29 ◼ ► The version of the one that's in the garage and sort of reset the clock on the beeping song or whatever
01:34:40 ◼ ► Anyway, the saga continues. We have not solved the problem. We had a different amount of beeping
01:34:51 ◼ ► Leave the leave the now garage freezer in the garage, and that's just where you get your frozen food now
01:34:58 ◼ ► I do want to be able to fit the car in there again eventually so with the car will not fit
01:35:07 ◼ ► No way no house. So that's got to come out it barely fit before like I know but it did fit
01:35:12 ◼ ► I think you've lost this battle once. No, I'll bring it back down. I mean, we don't we don't want it in the garage
01:35:53 ◼ ► I put the link in I put the picture in our slack so you guys can see so the neighbors fj
01:36:19 ◼ ► It is nothing that I would have picked out in terms of like if I was going to choose my own fj Cruiser. I
01:36:26 ◼ ► By the way, which hasn't been made since 2014. So, you know, you're already and it was never made in large volume
01:36:32 ◼ ► So they're they're kind of hard and it was never attractive. They're kind of no it was never tried
01:36:46 ◼ ► Why to lean into the ugly factor? Yeah. Oh, and I would almost certainly get it with a stick which it was available in
01:37:04 ◼ ► The reason I have purchased this vehicle. I think I'm pretty high on the list to get a permit
01:37:11 ◼ ► So I think I'm I think I'm going to get one probably either this winter or next winter in the winter
01:37:25 ◼ ► when the bay freezes which happens usually every winter for at least a few days and sometimes it can be
01:37:31 ◼ ► A week sometimes it can be a few weeks. Sometimes it could be a month and when the bay freezes
01:37:35 ◼ ► You no longer have access to the land for things like grocery shopping and that's kind of annoying and and problematic
01:38:04 ◼ ► Can't necessarily drive my Tesla on the sand. No not advisable. You need a vehicle that can do it
01:38:14 ◼ ► Normally, you know, I was not planning on buying anything until and unless I got the full permit but
01:38:44 ◼ ► It's this is not a good time to need to buy a car if you're if you're buying in most context
01:38:50 ◼ ► This is also really not a good time to want to buy an FJ Cruiser or a Wrangler or any vehicle that would be suitable
01:38:59 ◼ ► an opportunity that I just didn't want to pass up because so, you know a I have I have like, you know,
01:39:05 ◼ ► The bay freezing over contingency now covered. I have a sand capable vehicle and it was very inexpensive
01:39:17 ◼ ► Not not by much at all actually Mac it has very poor performance on the sand I'd advise
01:39:22 ◼ ► It doesn't even have wheels you didn't even get the wheels a lot of place for a sandy ingress and in my Mac
01:39:31 ◼ ► so, you know it this this opportunity came up to get this vehicle and it was it was too good of a price to pass up and
01:39:40 ◼ ► 80,000 miles and it's a 2014 model year which was the last year they were made like if you're gonna get an FJ
01:39:50 ◼ ► I would have necessarily picked for myself if you're gonna get an FJ you want a 2014 model year with relatively low mileage
01:40:06 ◼ ► Super nice and super generous with you know her time and everything and she taught me how to drive on the sand
01:40:17 ◼ ► I did it with her through the gate and everything as she she's allowed to have other people drive the car. She's in it
01:40:21 ◼ ► So we went through the gate. I went the two different routes you can go and I learned where everything was and
01:40:43 ◼ ► across a beach for a few miles and it's in the winter and so and it hadn't rained in a while and
01:40:55 ◼ ► Multiple very deep tracks through the sand, you know, just tire tracks, you know, like deep tire tracks just running straight
01:41:09 ◼ ► Across the beach maybe like eight or ten like virtual sand lanes wide but super deep tracks
01:41:14 ◼ ► you know probably at least six to ten inches deep, you know, just the tracks in the sand and
01:41:19 ◼ ► Going between them the sand because it hadn't rained in a while. The sand is not hard packed down
01:41:33 ◼ ► Not easy necessarily because you have these big ruts you're going in and out of and the sand is loose and it's very tall
01:41:39 ◼ ► And so this was a challenging time to drive through the sand, you know, I don't want to toot my own horn here
01:41:47 ◼ ► Loose traction situations like Casey you recall at BMW like the driving fun thing we did with with underscore
01:41:57 ◼ ► But I was really good at not spinning out and not losing control. Like I'm generally pretty decent at that kind of thing with cars
01:42:13 ◼ ► I'm going down this track and and the woman who was selling me the car who was telling me like she had given me a
01:42:32 ◼ ► She wasn't like a hard driver of it, but there were so many times where she would tell me you should go faster here
01:42:44 ◼ ► Otherwise I was I was at risk of getting stuck and this is an FJ Cruiser which you know off-roaders respect this vehicle
01:43:15 ◼ ► The current like rut I was driving in and I would turn the wheel and I just keep going straight
01:43:25 ◼ ► You're just I guess I'm going straight for a little while longer until until I can get it to kick up
01:43:34 ◼ ► One thing she told me, you know, she said like, you know everybody who has a driving permit gets stuck sometime
01:43:40 ◼ ► Really everyone like cuz I'm here I'm thinking like I'm gonna get a really capable vehicle and I'm and I'm a pretty good driver
01:43:46 ◼ ► I'm never gonna get stuck and she's like no everybody gets stuck and what do you do when you get stuck?
01:43:57 ◼ ► I'm like really I'm like first of all, I'd really I'd be mortified if I ever had to do that
01:44:20 ◼ ► and so recognizing that there aren't many vehicles that are more off-road capable than this that aren't like really
01:44:38 ◼ ► The Rivian is more capable of this though higher ground clearance more power bigger knobby your wheels, right?
01:44:50 ◼ ► but it's like, you know, certainly I think if if I get a permit and the Rivian comes out during the time I have a
01:44:58 ◼ ► Permit, I would most likely then sell or trade this in and switch to that until then in case you're right
01:45:06 ◼ ► However, I don't think a Wrangler is that much more capable in this condition. I think it would be fairly similar overall
01:45:12 ◼ ► I I would probably agree with that but it is a if the two-door anyway is a very small car
01:45:19 ◼ ► It's been a while since I've been physically next to a fj or whatever the heck this thing is called
01:45:25 ◼ ► But a two-door Wrangler is very small the four doors are not the four doors are pretty big
01:45:36 ◼ ► Have you seen a two-door Wrangler like if you have a car seat in the back, there's no trunk
01:45:49 ◼ ► Passenger in the back if you have the back seats operating as seats you have basically no trunk
01:46:08 ◼ ► Dimensionally the Wrangler and the after the Wrangler and the FJ are very similar. There's a couple inches here there, but it's not
01:46:15 ◼ ► But anyway when I was first thinking about like, you know, what kind if I if I got a sand vehicle
01:46:23 ◼ ► Would I go for something like a Wrangler or some giant SUV thing or I was thinking like could I get away with something?
01:46:30 ◼ ► That's maybe just like a really good all-wheel drive system with some good ground clearance
01:46:34 ◼ ► You know, like there's there's certain options like like the the Subaru Outback has this off-road package in the modern ones
01:46:40 ◼ ► That gives it like pretty good ground clearance and like, you know, it has a pretty good
01:46:47 ◼ ► There's all there's like other Jeep models that are like a little, you know larger more comfortable on the highway
01:46:56 ◼ ► Now I know from this experience of just driving driving there and back, you know, basically two two trips on the sand
01:47:08 ◼ ► Off-road capable than this if anything I'd welcome more, you know, like if I can get the Rivian cool, I
01:47:14 ◼ ► Wrangler and FJ are my new baseline. Nothing that is less capable than these off-road would work for me here
01:47:28 ◼ ► Skid plate things that you can like you can stick under your realtor get stuck and help pull yourself out or help drive out
01:47:34 ◼ ► So I ordered those I'm like I do not want to get stuck ever and have to like call the police. That sounds terrible
01:47:45 ◼ ► And like, you know, like little mini shovel, so we'll see if I ever had if this ever even happens
01:47:54 ◼ ► This deal too is like it was such a good price that even if I never get the permit and I end up selling this in
01:48:07 ◼ ► This is another reason why it's kind of a no-brainer deal, but other thing other notes about driving it
01:48:21 ◼ ► Changed that much from then and so it still works the way cars from the early 2000s worked
01:48:26 ◼ ► So it doesn't have the stupid engine auto start-stop, which I hate on all vehicles that have it. It doesn't have
01:48:38 ◼ ► It basically has no it's like it's the way all cars used to be that's how this car is the way all my cars still
01:49:07 ◼ ► Does it remember like that's the most important feature of this car and let's just like Casey if they say oh you got to disable
01:49:16 ◼ ► and in fact the worst part of the reason a lot of the positive reviews that the Wrangler 4xe are getting that the plug-in hybrid Wrangler a
01:49:31 ◼ ► Whereas all other Wranglers you feel it and everyone hates it because it sucks so principle of the matter stop start
01:49:52 ◼ ► So, you know the the key fob does have a little remote control buttons to like lock and unlock the doors by remote
01:50:02 ◼ ► Everything is have carplay. No, it does. However have a standard doubled in radio socket
01:50:11 ◼ ► So first of all, I don't know much about these cars, but I did know that everyone said like if you're gonna have a vehicle
01:50:17 ◼ ► On the beach for this purpose get the FJ because it's you know, it's better than the Wrangler for
01:50:24 ◼ ► I really didn't know much about the vehicle the first time that I get into it and I you know
01:50:35 ◼ ► LCD display that shows like, you know the seven segments of the numbers or whatever like it's not it doesn't have like a full
01:50:48 ◼ ► Okay, so I can I can you know rig something up there. I ordered myself ProClip USA mount for my phone
01:50:55 ◼ ► I thought to like, you know, one of the flaws of the FJ is the visibility is not great and
01:51:01 ◼ ► Especially like, you know with the rear visibility if you're trying to like, you know do some parking maneuvers
01:51:05 ◼ ► It does actually have those beeping parking sensors like the proximity sensors for parking on the rear bumper
01:51:13 ◼ ► Was thinking like the first thing I think I'm gonna get here is some kind of aftermarket backup camera because I'm spoiled now
01:51:19 ◼ ► I don't want to go without them and especially a vehicle that I'm not that familiar with I have to navigate around very tight
01:51:28 ◼ ► Actually on the streets because it's the streets here are so narrow and there's like houses built right up to the edge
01:51:38 ◼ ► Yeah in my day we had to back up all these big vehicles with no rear visibility and no backup cameras. Yeah, exactly
01:51:48 ◼ ► Maybe I'll maybe I'll also get like maybe I replace the head unit with a carplay head unit
01:51:52 ◼ ► Oh now we're talking right because it cuz you can do that. It's just you unscrew a few screws and you have the head unit
01:51:58 ◼ ► So and I already own one actually from my my carplay testing rig that I've actually since replaced with something better
01:52:04 ◼ ► So I have it. I already own an extra doubled in carplay head unit. That's just sitting around not being used
01:52:11 ◼ ► Like this is great. I could just pop it in and those usually have video inputs for backup cameras as well
01:52:29 ◼ ► Is that is carplay actually better than your phone mounted on event because like if it's positioned really low in the dash
01:52:40 ◼ ► Like it's not made to be like current modern carplay things where the screen is like within your eye line
01:52:45 ◼ ► Where you just glance down at it. Is it like down in the floor? So it's it's low, you know
01:52:53 ◼ ► So here's so as I was, you know, we transfer the car over I'm putting on the new license plates
01:53:00 ◼ ► I notice as I'm as I'm putting the license plate on because I was looking kind of eyeing the bumper to say like where I've read
01:53:07 ◼ ► You can you can put a backup camera right in the middle of the rear bumper and it kind of looks nice with the parking sensors
01:53:15 ◼ ► There is what appears to be a backup camera in the spare tire enclosure thing on the back of the car
01:53:22 ◼ ► Like so and I then did some research and learn that they added a backup camera to the FJ like in later model years
01:53:33 ◼ ► But there's no screen so I thought maybe the backup camera was only used if you optioned the navigation system
01:53:41 ◼ ► I guess let me let me figure out how to hook up the stock camera to a carplay head unit and I'll put that in I
01:53:50 ◼ ► Casey because I had some questions about some of the off-road controls that I don't know anything about I'm stunned
01:53:56 ◼ ► So I was reading the manual and I noticed that there's a section about the back camera and it didn't have the asterisk
01:54:03 ◼ ► That said for all the all the optional equipment has the asterisk and that says if equipped
01:54:12 ◼ ► This is where Doug DeMuro needs to come in and show you all the quirks and features of your car
01:54:15 ◼ ► You don't know where the hidden screen is. Yes, so it turns so in all of my test driving of this car
01:54:53 ◼ ► So I already have Bluetooth in a backup camera and a car mount for my phone. So that's it
01:55:02 ◼ ► Just gonna keep the car stock as it is and just clip my phone to the to the dashboard like I do with my test
01:55:28 ◼ ► 2002 maybe and I was very pleased when I got into this car that I already knew how to use the cruise control
01:55:40 ◼ ► That's on Toyota's like with like, you know, the res and set and everything. It works exactly the same way
01:55:46 ◼ ► You mean it's not just tap on the navigation item on touchscreen then go to cruise control then go to the slide
01:55:52 ◼ ► Physical controls for the cruise control how barbaric that you can do that in one operation without looking
01:55:59 ◼ ► Yeah, so everything worked like it's a fully manual car except for the transmission, of course
01:56:10 ◼ ► First of all, I didn't actually mind the automatic transmission that much because I'm not driving this car in a sporty way
01:56:16 ◼ ► You got it. You got enough to worry about not getting stuck in the sand. Don't worry about shifting - I feel like automatic
01:56:23 ◼ ► You know that you don't have to worry about you can concentrate on steering and throttle input and gives you one more Thunderbolt lane
01:56:33 ◼ ► automatic might be better for me at least at being a relative amateur at off-road driving because what you often need is to
01:56:46 ◼ ► Yeah, especially with my relatively sloppy stick technique. Like that's why they have a creeper gears on
01:56:54 ◼ ► They're picturing going up a mountain with rocks or whatever sand is an entirely different beast to deal with and you're not going to there
01:57:00 ◼ ► Just to be clear people to know what Long Island Beach is like. He's not going over boulders
01:57:07 ◼ ► Yeah, lots of sand often very loosely packed and I have to go around but I had to pass a school bus
01:57:13 ◼ ► Which that was terrifying because it was it passed very close and speaking about what are the rules about?
01:57:21 ◼ ► Like how much of the beach is available for you to drive on it varies depending on like how much how much have storm was washed
01:57:29 ◼ ► But I'm saying can you go all the way down into the water and just like splash through the waves if you want to or is
01:57:39 ◼ ► If you think like a car I'd go down there and sunset and speed through the hard-packed sand
01:57:45 ◼ ► With the spray coming behind you and then just trying to get stuck. Yeah, I mean, yeah, like you you don't want it to be wet
01:57:58 ◼ ► Obviously if you want to if you want to really accelerate the corrosion of your vehicle, you could splash through the salt wall. Yeah, right
01:58:15 ◼ ► roadways and a truck was coming to the direction and I saw it had to pass me in a relatively small space and I tried to
01:58:23 ◼ ► Pull over a little bit like off to the right to give them more space the non-existent shoulder
01:58:35 ◼ ► Terrifying and way harder of a drive than I expected. So yeah, I'm I still obviously if this permit happens
01:58:43 ◼ ► I still have a lot to learn about how to drive and I think a lot of that will just come with experience
01:58:58 ◼ ► No, I guess that's maybe not like Robert Moses somewhere. Yeah, I guess maybe they don't have that like it's that's not dissection fuck father
01:59:05 ◼ ► I'd ease the hip so there's the beach and then there's the dunes and then if you go farther out east on the south shore
01:59:25 ◼ ► It's so skinny where you see like these it's always pickup trucks pickup trucks are RVs
01:59:31 ◼ ► two pickup trucks will be coming toward each other on that road and it's like there's no way two cars are gonna be able to
01:59:39 ◼ ► You know, like you're saying the ruts and you see them creep past each other and try to like squeeze by with you know
01:59:45 ◼ ► The big those whatever they're whatever those plants are in the dunes like scraping the sides of their fancy
02:00:00 ◼ ► There's no part where you sort of go to the other side of the dunes, but you're still on sand
02:00:04 ◼ ► No, there's both like so there's there is an interior route that drives through more towns
02:00:11 ◼ ► But it's just it's slower and tighter and there is still there are still sandy sections on that
02:00:17 ◼ ► But there's fewer sandy sections or you can you there's a couple of points where there's like little ramps
02:00:23 ◼ ► You can cross the dunes like sand ramps like but there's there's a couple like cuts through the dunes that you're allowed to drive through
02:00:33 ◼ ► But sometimes in the winter, especially like sometimes there's not enough Beach to drive on
02:00:42 ◼ ► So it's a whole thing and and you know, keep in mind that the context of this like the interior route
02:00:47 ◼ ► All the interior roads that is such that such as they are are one lane wide and even just barely that
02:00:57 ◼ ► One of you just has to turn somewhere and let the other person pass or back up into like, you know
02:01:03 ◼ ► back up to the next street behind you and turn into that like and this is one of the reasons why like backup visibility is
02:01:13 ◼ ► Back out of the street you're on to let some other vehicle go the other direction or something like that
02:01:25 ◼ ► You should consider a duck boat though because when the Atlantic Ocean punches through into the bay as it has as it has done
02:01:31 ◼ ► Multiple times in Long Island's history if you just go out east there various places where the ocean has punched through. Oh, yeah
02:01:43 ◼ ► I really feel like Fire Island is the geographic equivalent of an LG ultrafine 5k. It's great
02:01:54 ◼ ► It's great, but only certain people are allowed to drive and by the way, you have to drive on the sand
02:02:10 ◼ ► Anyway, watch great asterisk dagger double asterisk double dagger cross double cross. No, it's just great
02:02:17 ◼ ► Is it though? Oh one more thing that I loved about the FJ here. I'm gonna send you a picture to the
02:02:30 ◼ ► Giant knobs and buttons. Yeah, imagine having a physical control for something. Isn't that?
02:02:38 ◼ ► Easy it is to use those things without thinking about it. They never move really easy to find
02:02:46 ◼ ► And so I was wearing gloves for most of the drive and it was no problem to operate these giant
02:03:02 ◼ ► It was like retro appeal, you know to have this like it's not accessibility is not retro
02:03:12 ◼ ► You know, I just I'm just gonna turn this temperature knob slightly. All right, you need to turn the heat on
02:03:17 ◼ ► Oh, I just go over here and you know turn this a couple notches with my giant gloved hands and it's totally fine
02:03:22 ◼ ► Imagine that I can't wait until you end up buying another ice and another internal combustion car because you realize that
02:03:29 ◼ ► Yes, it is. Nice to have an electric powered car, but everything else about the Tesla's a pain in the ass
02:03:34 ◼ ► And so there's plenty of electric cars with physical controls like not everyone is on the same page as Tesla
02:03:46 ◼ ► But a few of them have already sort of gone back on their previous iterations and said nope
02:03:50 ◼ ► We're bringing back physical controls for climate. We're bringing back physical controls or cruise control and all that other stuff
02:04:04 ◼ ► No, the alternating current outlet because I'm looking at a button in this oh, there's what there's an ACL in the trunk
02:04:11 ◼ ► And as well as a giant subwoofer for some reason I get the other benefit of physical controls you get to have blanks for the features
02:04:19 ◼ ► Three blanks, but anyway, it's surprisingly nice. I it's the first time I've bought a gas car in forever
02:04:34 ◼ ► But it's pretty nice like for what it is. It's got a round steering wheel - yeah, imagine that complete circle