The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► the correct title for this episode is [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► John syracuse was wrong about something [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► you too you too love love love love just [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► listening and jumping on something you [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► think is wrong both at once was nothing [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► we think it's wrong and Israel all know [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► you think you think are you saying [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► there's only children that it takes me [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► 10 minutes to explain what I actually [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► said but yeah it's a thing now you were [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► wrong [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► where's that window so many windows open [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► i can't find it [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► actually I have it's funny you say that [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► i have one two three four five six [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► different desktops running which is more [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► than I usually do and they're not in the [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► places i usually leave them which is my [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► own problem of my own creation [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► I have three what is its paces is the [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► official mac OS terminal virtual [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► desktops I three of them at you like a [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► maniac [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► it's and I probably 15 tabs open across [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► all my browser's this is ridiculous at [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► revenge on i-15 tabs across probably [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► more like I guess I can figure this out [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► how many browser windows three browser [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► windows not like maybe 15 tabs open made [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► my name or tabs open i do it's [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► unmanageable I tell you say what I i [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► listening listening back the windows [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► siracusa County last week during that is [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► so good so good i like a listening after [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► the after-show clip and paste and then [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► it just it holds up like it i mean Casey [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► and I sound like garbage we have [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► terrible microphones and like it we [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► recorded the bottle well like [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► everything's all echo we'd terrible John [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► has good microphone by then so he sounds [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► perfect of course because he sounds [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► frustrating but the most difficult to [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► use microphone of all of us and [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► naturally but if you if you get past the [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► other quality [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► oh my god that holds up so well it's [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► probably my favorite episode of ATP that [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► has ever happened [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► yeah that's so good you that the bed the [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► best part was its and I think it's kind [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► of like top gear at its finest [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► which was it was completely genuine like [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► genuinely we had no idea where this this [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► conversation was going and the two of us [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► like my recollection mar I've listened [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► to it outside of what you put in the [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► show the the two of us mark and I were [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► just completely stupefied dumbfounded [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► flabbergasted that this was what that [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► what was unfolding in front of us was [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► real life like I could not believe John [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► and still can't that you feel like that [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► was an acceptable way to manage your [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► windows and browsers and tabs and when [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► did you realize that it's only a matter [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► of time before both of you eventually [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► adopt that the the quantities so [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► ludicrously disgusting i can't believe [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► these numbers are so big it's blowing my [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► mind it's only a matter of time before I [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► mean you're getting close already you're [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► making jokes about 15 times i mean i [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► don't how many times do I have any open [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► chrome right now i have two chromosomes [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► open with 123456 I 1212 tabs to Windows [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► six times each [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► honestly I I be I'd be surprised if both [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► the mac and the web last long enough for [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► us to get to that point here we go [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► there's the Marco we know and love [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► welcome back one of those gonna let me [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► come on like what are the chances really [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► let's be realistically tabs will live [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► forever hopefully not in multiple rows [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► windows style because that was [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► ridiculous [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► yeah tap will tablet for every do you [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► think there's a few honest honest [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► question do so everyone everyone around [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► this this part of the commenters fear [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► seems to have some idea of what the [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► future of computing is like the future [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► of computing so far does not seem to [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► contain tabs much if at all [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► what do you think about that sure it [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► does there are there in safari on the [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► ipad so they're they're safe for the [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► future but i really want to put a pin in [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► the comments fear thing [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► pin pin that fatally wound that word and [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► then die and never escape from where it [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► is pinned down [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► would you rather I started a blog John [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► is that is a better lock [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► I just feel like that you need to like [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► you didn't you don't need to go to [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► comment 0 sphere you could fix something [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► anything else blogosphere that's just as [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► bad [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► no no it's a blogosphere is better it's [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► the weather gets better but it will [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► honestly though so like so you know you [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► mentioned like okay there's there's [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► obviously tabs in web browsers even on [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► on iPads and stuff [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► well how much of computing these days is [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► happening in web browsers and how much [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► of the web browser part of it is [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► happening on mobile which is where the [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► future apparently [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► yes like the future like if I'm using [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► the amazon app I can't do crap with tabs [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► i can't do anything if I'm using some [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► other application if i'm working in a [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► nap [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► it's up to each individual after support [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► tab like there is there was this this [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► relatively brief span in Computer [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► History where we did a whole bunch of [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► stuff and pc based web browsers so there [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► was this time that I think is is pretty [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► clearly fading where we could have the [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► amount of ridiculous tabs that John had [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► and we could have all this stuff open [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► and different you know everything was a [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► URL and we can have multiple windows to [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► everything we did because everything was [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► basically a web app that time is clearly [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► fading away and moving towards and very [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► much already in this other thing with [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► custom apps for almost everything most [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► of them on phones and then that error in [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► that era in the current paradigm that we [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► have here i don't actually think that [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► we're going to get to a point where the [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► type of keeping all this stuff open that [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► type of multitasking is really not going [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► to be possible in this world for the [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► foreseeable future [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► people love tabs you can stop tabs they [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► might not be on web browsers they might [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► be on the future of mobile facebook app [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► that will have tabs but people love taps [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► until something comes to replace tabs [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► tabs will be that doesn't mean that [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► they're tabs have to be what they are on [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► PCs today which is like the document [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► model but instead of multiple windows [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► you have a single window with multiple [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► tabs and they're interchangeable and [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► that doesn't mean they have to be that [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► I'm just talking about like tabs like [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► little things that when you hit them [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► switch it i mean you can just call the [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► segmented control and extend that counts [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► tabs too because actually used to be [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► tabs back on the you guys never use [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► Mac's back on those are actual tabs [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► right I no no I remember when they were [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► tabs [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► yes I'm saying but I guess it's like you [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► go to like system permits is now go [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► what is it called Marco do you don't [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► know the segment on your Mac programs [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► you have a segment of control used to be [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► tabs used to be rendered as tabs and [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► they changed it to this big long capsule [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► huh somewhere around 10.1 points3 10.4 [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► figure when they switched it weird go [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► find that they were big shiny glossy [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► aqua tabs they're like that the the aqua [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► mist tabs you have everything that you [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► know would be really cool if there was [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► some sort of resource that [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► existed that we could go to see lots of [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► screenshots and intense discussion about [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► old versions of Mac OS excuse me os10 [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► man that would be awesome wouldn't know [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► but honestly I i really do wonder how [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► this that the way that we like to work [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► with all that with tons of Windows and [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► tabs and of course on take it to a whole [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► other level [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► like is there room in what we know today [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► as as the iOS animal paradigm and what [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► everyone says the future of computing [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► and what Apple seems to be print be you [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► know not only saying is the future but [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► also like allocating resources in order [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► to basically force it to be our only [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► choice for the future is there room in [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► that for a lot of power users i don't [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► know i think that tabs are the easiest [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► way to punt on like having multiple [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► things open at once you know you don't [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► need to do a full-on windowing system [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► you just have a little tab control at [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► the top of the bottom and I mean think [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► about you I tab are in iOS I mean that's [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► those are still tabs strictly speaking [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► well no that's like that's different [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► like tabs the way we're talking about [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► are like are not the way a segment [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► controller at a bar would would like [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► separate different functions of the same [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► app that's just how you arranged like [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► one windows interface i'm talking about [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► the way but like what browser tabs are [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► and then what Ciara introduced as I kind [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► of for any document based app we're like [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► you can basically spawn as many tabs you [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► want each one is like an independent [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► document or window for that application [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► and the problems in iOS apps are not [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► designed to have multiple windows at all [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► so you can't even simulate this easily [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► for all apps like basically all at have [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► to be rewritten to support multiple [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► windows and iOS not to mention whatever [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► kind of complexity the the iOS UI itself [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► would have to add two people to manage [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► their windows which i'm sure would not [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► be good enough for John so you know I [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► wonder like it is our is the idea of [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► having all these things open a relic of [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► the past that's going to die with the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► mac which might be sooner rather than [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► later [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► yeah I don't want to be clear I was [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► actually just talking about them as [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► again not as like browser tabs or [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► separate areas but it's just the plane [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► on you I can [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► troll so the iOS ones would count as in [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► a horizontal strip that has a bunch of [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► things in it and when you hit one of the [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► things a larger area above or below it [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► changes to reflect the thing that you [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► hit only one of them can be selected to [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► the time that's totally what i was [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► talking about you're talking about [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► specifically the idea that it's [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► user-controlled arbitrary in which case [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► like a tab bar wouldn't count that's a [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► different thing I understand people like [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► people like the idea of a strip where [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► you can hit a thing and it's always [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► visible the radio buttons basically you [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► can only pick one of them only one can [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► be active at once and when you pick it [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► the whole rest of some large area [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► changes to reflect the thing that you [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► picked tabs people of them i pasted a [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► bunch of ones in there it's it i think i [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► got about ten tend to pinstripes Justin [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► 10-3 look at those those tabs that are [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► those not the tabs tabs that same [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► control yeah change they change the [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► appearance in I think 10 5 ish i haven't [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► gotten up to that to look like segmented [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► control it was like your same code all [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► of a sudden would go from that to what [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► you see today more or less with the [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► segmented controls because it isn't it [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► isn't just the the bar of words the top [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► is it the whole frame there that makes [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► it the whole card thing around it it's [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► it's exactly the same as the segment to [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► controlling so if you look at this look [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► at one of these things and then just go [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► to like system performance today it [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► would you if you just took this code and [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► were able to run it today it would look [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► like it doesn't like the little recessed [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► well i think i had a graphic because the [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► cool thing was like they would change [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► the original implementation they would [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► change the texture of the well-liked the [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► inset period ii-era inset area to be [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► darker so if you nested a bunch of them [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► just get darker and darker and darker [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► and darker was fun [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► the windows did that to ya all the [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► windows tinted windows to the double row [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► of tabs which was just about nobody [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► windows windows had I believe they call [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► it frames but it was like it was the [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► similar kind of thing we'd have the [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► inset area with a label or tab row at [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► the top but of course windows did it [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► uglier but more affordably you know that [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► reminds me and I'll use this to segue [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► into follow-up we had a handful of [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► people write in and say that they are [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► Microsoft employees that listen to the [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► show and roof [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► I'm sorry turns out there are some not [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► yet not sort of your Microsoft employee [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► I'm just sorry that well for me [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► see anything we've ever said about [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► anything microsoft product except [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► apparently the surface sure we said we [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► say nice things but Microsoft products [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► all the time [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► yeah and I understand from from what I [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► hear from people who work there or have [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► worked there [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► it actually sounds like a pretty good [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► place to work is that right [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► we know that yeah I've always a Bible [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► I've only ever heard good things about [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► the the microsoft work environment and [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► just like the kind of place at a store [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► the you never have micro surface or [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► learn about stack ranking and stuff like [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► that bad things that I cannot believe me [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► but when they're being right there being [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► a really nice office [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► mmm goodness in any case so i just [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► wanted to thank those of you who have [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► written in that are Microsoft employees [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► and they all were quick to point out [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► that they were not in the surface Studio [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► group and they didn't know anyone from [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► the surface Studio group which is [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► unfortunate however it was still nice [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► them to write in so thank you for that [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► secondly John's extraordinarily nerdy [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► and fiddly wish for a battery burndown [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► chart guess where it exists kids but it [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► exists an android because why wouldn't [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► so I did I didn't know what a burndown [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► chart was as you correctly predicted [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► during the show but i did of course find [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► that afterwards for other people talking [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► standard hasn't shown us what they look [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► like and yeah actually pretty useful I [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► would love the head and and I think now [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► the the doors open for people to make [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► that for the mac as a little battery [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► widget for the menu bar honestly [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► probably already existing copies don't [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► know about it but that would be a I [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► believe the market for that on the mac [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► is now very real and i hope that either [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► it already exists and it's good for [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► somebody makes a good one [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► yeah so there's that Mario run is now a [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► thing it's out i personally have yet to [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► try it [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► I've been extremely busy but it'sit's [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► out it's a thing and if you're John [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► turkey sits maryo run so John how do you [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► like Mariano run that's what i thought [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► it would be i mean we've all seen the [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► videos that plays like it plays it's [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► fine you know the online thing is [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► annoying the the UI that they put in [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► there is is weird the first one [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► experiences creddie but as I said last [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► week like they get the first one for [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► free because there's so much pent-up [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► demand for nintendo game on iOS [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► and it's a popular property and so I the [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► first thing that you're just like oh [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► it's been downloaded 2.8 million times [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► the first day and then we have updated [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► numbers 40 million times in the first [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► four days and phil schiller made a [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► statement in 10 domain statement feels [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► is the fastest selling fast fastest [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► downloaded game not fastest selling [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► fastest downloaded game ever and then [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► these various companies try to estimate [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► how many people are actually buying it [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► based on the top charts and all those [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► stuff guessing that maybe four percent [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► of the people who downloaded actually [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► paid for its astronomical ten dollar [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► price and so that means made like 16 [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► million dollars which is you know pretty [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► darn good [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► yeah gonna see that money and then I [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► don't know if it is already made back [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► the amount of money it costs to develop [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► it considering the use of third-party [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► engine forward and had another developer [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► i think help them actually do the dev [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► work [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► yeah so it's going well uh I their [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► second game that they release i guess [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► that probably still do okay on second it [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► will be different property or whatever [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► but uh I was a lot of people are sending [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► feedback saying are saying you reviews [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► that are saying that this shows the [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► Nintendo or whoever helped them develop [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► this game really understands the mobile [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► platform because it's a great mobile [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► game and it's good it's fine it's a good [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► mobile game but I still feel like it is [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► taking an existing game the 2d marrow [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► game you're running from laughter with [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► merry gentlemen stuff taking that and [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► finding a way to make it work on mobile [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► which is different than starting from [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► scratch and finding a good mobile game [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► idea and it's different subtle ways like [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► I keep comparing it out those adventures [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► like isn't exactly the same thing you [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► just go from left to right any person [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► button to do some stuff i would argue [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► that it is not quite the same thing as [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► altos adventure is not an established [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► franchise skiing platform reported to [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► single button press think it's conceived [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► from the beginning to be a game for [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► mobile I find it more pleasing than [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► America game a partially because when I [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► see him running [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► from left to right I have certain [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► expectations of gameplay and realizing [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► that they had to subvert that and find a [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► way and to their credit they did but [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► find a way to make it interesting novel [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► and fun while taking away freedoms that [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► you expect when you see a static [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► screenshot i expect to be able to stop [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► and run left and i expect to run into [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► going behind I instead of automatically [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► vaulting over him like changing his [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► expectations like you're getting a lot [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► of pressure isn't that clever they did [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► chose just the right balance of things [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► to make the game different and fun or [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► whatever was like but you are taking a [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► different kind of gaming dressing it up [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► and cause playing it as a merry game and [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► I think it's a good game and people [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► should probably get it's well worth the [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► ten dollars you pay for it but it is i'm [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► not saying this to say it's not a good [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► game and you shouldn't buy but I think [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► nintendo has not yet made a game [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► conceived for the the mobile platform [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► like every five had their mascots and [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► everything but just like don't in the [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► same way that Mary play soccer [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► he plays baseball players I don't forget [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► everything every sport he plays he [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► drives around in go-karts and stuff and [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► the same way you can take that property [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► and put it on a different genre I they [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► have not yet taken that property and put [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► it on a jean room or a style of game [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► made for mobile force instead they have [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► taken an existing game style which is [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► the 2d platformer and modified it to [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► work better in this environment that I [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► find the and I don't think that's a [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► sustainable business for that it's just [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► a way to get people into larger [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► franchises that's fine but I'm still [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► looking forward to the day where they [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► come up with a game concept and idea [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► that is for mobile first and truly plays [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► to the strength of that platform in the [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► way the pokemon go did basically but you [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► know not not that specific franchise [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► like we're very Merry whatever and then [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► put whatever IP on that you want call it [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► metroid pinball I don't care whatever [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► you know whatever graphics you have to [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► put on to make it palatable make people [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► buy fine but they are quite there yet so [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► ice continue to view this as then [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► dipping their toes and making some money [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► making some mistakes by making an [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► online-only and doing silly things on [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► first launched like [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► can people pick their country from [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► really long list instead of using [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► location services and so on so forth but [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► if you know but this is only a way to [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► get people onto their other platforms [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► which by the way even though these [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► numbers look big [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► they still make more money selling one [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► of their other games on their own [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► platforms because every single person [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► who buys one of those games pay sport [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► whereas 40 million downloads those are [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► all paying ten dollars for things so [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► right now still looks like a hedge and [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► if they're going to commit to it will be [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► able to tell when they start getting [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► serious about the game's development for [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► these platforms right now students it [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► still seems like they're going for the [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► switch and so we'll see how that turns [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► out for them tomorrow if you play this [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► at all [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► of course I have it's my job to stay [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► current on the world of video games [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► so that's a no no I don't see how I and [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► I honestly have enjoyed this game it is [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► currently on my home screen I don't know [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► how long it will stay there but it is [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► currently there and I i used as a fun [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► diversion [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► I think they did overall a really good [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► job with it there are areas of it that [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► drive me nuts [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► the internet connection thing hasn't [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► hasn't hit me yet because i don't have a [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► real job anymore but it will hit me next [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► week when i'm traveling it and when i'm [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► in areas with poor reception i will [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► definitely hit me then but overall it's [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► a really fun game i really enjoy I I [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► like like what I'm doing is rather than [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► just blowing through all the levels [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► I'm I'm not moving on until I've gotten [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► at least the first two coin colors the [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► pink and the purple in each level and [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► that and so like it what I like about [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► this game is that while i'm probably [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► playing it wrong by whatever john would [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► say I'm supposed to play it [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► I this game allows you to play it kinda [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► however you want you can go through [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► everything you can do like I haven't I [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► haven't even done towards racetrack or [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► whatever that is I haven't built [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► anything I haven't read any of the [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► various currencies have been earning or [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► whatever all I've been doing is playing [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► the levels to get the coins that's it [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► and I've currently gotten through only [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► world one doing it this way I haven't [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► even gotten to the second row yet [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► because I'm not very good at video games [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► turns out but it's fun and I like this [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► that this [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► you that I I don't like how much [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► overhead there is like in waiting for [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► menus and stuff and waiting for loading [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► screens [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► I'm not crazy about that there's like to [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► me like an iOS game like this is [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► something that you should be able to [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► play while waiting on line for something [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► quickly and and it they they have [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► there's a lot of friction involved in [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► like getting started with this game and [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► that's I don't know if nintendo is [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► incapable of not doing it that way or [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► they just think it's the right thing to [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► do I don't know [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► anyway I just like it's fun i I'm not [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► analyzing it too deeply I'm just having [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► fun with it because I'm I've always been [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► more of a casual Nintendo fan I'm not [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► like a super diehard Nintendo fan or a [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► die-hard gamer for that matter so I'm [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► having fun with its nice i bought the [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► unlock I'm not going to give it one star [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► review and that's it that's why I'm [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► having fun with it and that phenomenon [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► was the other story about this the fact [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► that nintendo released what I think [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► anyone would have to say is a really [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► good iOS game like despite whatever you [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► know stumbles and and the first launch [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► party like it's a good game it's a fun [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► game people enjoy playing it and the [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► reviews are being massacred by people [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► who don't want to pay money mostly by [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► people who say this game is so fun [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► it's so mean of you to ask me for money [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► for it why couldn't you give me this [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► game that's why i love this game isn't [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► my loving this game enough for me to get [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► it for free [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► huge number of reviews say not worth ten [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► dollars all of the people who like i [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► would pay seven but not tense i come on [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► anyway welcome to the appstore that [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► there's so many things wrong with the [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► app star and verbena I always wonder who [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► read those reviews hoping to find out [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► you know the in many ways this game is [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► review proof because once if people are [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► actually able to confirm that it is [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► actually a Nintendo game and not a scam [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► which is a topic that we keep pushing [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► out on the shots might be able to get to [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► and a future show if they're able to [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► make that determination [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► no one's reading the reviews say this is [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► the one and only mario game on the app [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► store let me read reviews first on the [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► reviews on the app store maybe people we [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► read reviews on their favorite like tech [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► site they really care but people know [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► whether they want to marry Oh game [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► especially since it's free to download [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► just get it [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► the only people who are taking to the [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► review section after you know I want to [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► play this game but I can't spend ten do [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► I have to think most of those people are [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► younger people [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► children who literally don't have ten [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► dollars to spend are no I just can't [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► imagine someone getting angry about ten [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► dollars for nintendo and taking to the [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► reviews about being angry and are not [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► sign on to buy 50 John haha you you have [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► never had an app in the App Store III [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► for nintendo games specifically i'm [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► thinking because you don't know it [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► doesn't matter i don't think it matters [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► it doesn't matter at all someone who [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► isn't someone who's angry about their [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► note-taking app or whatever i can [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► understand them going to it because [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► those are adults but these have to be [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► children John when when you tell me what [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► it's like to have a real job [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► this is I'm telling you what it's like [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► to have Anthony and just put your never [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► could never put a Nintendo game on the [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► app so obviously if you're creating it [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► an app for adult it doesn't matter Jon [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► that's the thing it doesn't matter how [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► many people who how many of those ok so [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► first of all they had was 40 million [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► downloads so it doesn't take a lot of a [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► high percentage of those to result in [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► tons of reviews right so that that's why [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► i think most of those one-star reviews [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► complaining about the price are young [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► people are children because it doesn't [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► take a lot of them to you know to do the [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► top 50 reviews is 40 million people 5750 [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► cranky children you know who who spends [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► the time to write a review for a [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► Nintendo game like again its review [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► proof is like a Star Wars movie [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► I don't understand why you're hanging [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► your hat why are you hanging your head [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► on nintendo nobody gives a crap that [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► it's nintendo finger all they care about [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► is that it's a game that they want to [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► play but they have to pay for their [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► pissed off but but no but adults [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► understand that no one is going to look [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► at reviews for nintendo oh noes 0 [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► they really don't know trust me they [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► don't if you are if you heard adults who [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► left an angry review about ten dollar [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► game about this specific ten-dollar game [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► plays right into us and tell us why you [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► think it was a good idea for you to [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► spend he's been writing a review for [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► nintendo game for the one and only the [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► first John nintendo game you don't you [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► are and you are getting clouded by your [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► own love nintendo there you are so out [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► of touch on this one and your own faith [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► in adults apparently it's not it's not [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► about love nintendo it's about the idea [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► i can't imagine it in adult wasting the [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► time for to write an angry review about [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► the one and only [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► game on the app store just god you're [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► gonna hate it feel free to not spend ten [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► dollars on it that there are a lot of [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► angry naive children of all ages [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► yeah but i know i agree with that but I [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► feel like those people are writing angry [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► reviews about a two dollar note taking [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► app they're not writing reviews about a [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► ten-dollar Meyer again they very much [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► are all you are so wrong job so little [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► small so you don't know that because [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► it's not ages attach this thing and [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► neither one of you have written and the [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► one and only nintendo game of the app [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► store so I'm not arguing whether that [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► were there are adults ending angry [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► reviews about note-taking apps of course [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► there are you can tell that they're [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► adults running reviews about to open up [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► taking app I know they're out there but [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► for the nintendo game I feel like it's [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► got to be young people it doesn't matter [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► Jon it doesn't matter if it's a Nintendo [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► or Vesper or your mom or 123 note-taker [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► it doesn't matter the fact of the matter [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► is it's ten dollars they don't want to [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► spend so let me give you an example [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► just today I was a target and I realized [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► that captain america civil wars out and [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► whether or not you [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► the collective you liked that movie I [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► enjoyed it and I wanted to buy it on [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► blu-ray [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► it was $15 so it was fifteen dollars for [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► me to legally purchase a movie think [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► about the incredible hoops adults go [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► through adults who make over a hundred [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► thousand dollars a year go through in [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► order to rip off a fifteen-dollar [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► blu-ray think of the think of all the [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► trucks that they look in to see if the [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► if the back is falling if the back has [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► come off of them to say fifteen dollars [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► on a movie and you think that they're [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► going to say oh well this is Nintendo [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► there okay [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► they get a bye hell no you're [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► misunderstanding what I'm saying those [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► people you are not writing angry reviews [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► they're not going to bestbuy and going [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► to the bottom of the best buy store [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► section where you by Civil War and [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► saying this movie isn't worth fifteen [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► dollars i would maybe pay ten dollars [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► for fifteen dollars to watch one star [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► have you see the Amazon reviews are [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► coming here there's a lot of people out [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► there who will who will complain about [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► any other not there just because they're [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► just going to go get the movie another [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► way and it's not because they're they're [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► laying off because Nintendo it's because [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► they realize that nothing they can say [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► in the comments section of a Nintendo [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► game has any relevance to anybody no one [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► is reading the comments section to [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► decide whether they want to marry a game [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► or not that's where this is the flaw in [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► your logic John [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► that these people who leave one star [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► reviews think they have power they think [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► this worry this they think this will [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► hurt their sales they think that people [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► will be forced to read this that people [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► will respond to it somehow they think [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► they're voting with their one-star they [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► they really do think they are powerful [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► and they are going to register their [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► complaint and it's going to make a [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► difference and someone's gonna have to [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► face them but that's true i kno de [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► Kamp's because people do read reviews [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► and note-taking apps because they have [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► to find which one of the eight thousand [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► note-taking apps is any good so they [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► actually do have power and the [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► note-taking apps because by millions of [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► people leaving credit reviews people [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► will sort you know trying to find ones [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► that have high standards are so [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► confusing p logic with emotion didn't [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► know this is so wrong there is no logic [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► in appstore review and I understand [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► about inventing understand those things [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► like look I will and we don't have [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► demographic so nobody actually knows the [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► ages of these people even reviews [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► you could try to surmise the ages by the [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► grammar and punctuation but that is a [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► better you can do the work i did you [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► know but it gives you something to hang [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► out on like that's all we've got to go [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► on [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► let the record show on the 21st to [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► December in the year 2016 John syracuse [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► was finally wrong about something and [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► you have no idea who is right around was [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► we don't have the demographics you just [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► assume though we know you're wrong i [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► would love to see the demo on this is [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► its timely in people with all the all [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► the demographics on come on [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► yeah exactly now that yeah it is 40 [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► million people but you think the 40 [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► million people are evenly distributed [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► the people who write reviews like [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► demographically speaking there's an even [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► distribution [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► no I don't think they're told I don't [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► think it's a bell curve hovering around [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► 10 year old so all right here here let's [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► put it this way said let's say a [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► distribution wise for gender what do you [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► think the distribution is of gender [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► people writing reviews as compared to [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► the purchaser so let's say the purchase [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► are 5050 [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► what do you think distribution is of [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► angry commenters probably a little bit [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► more mail but probably not as much as [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► you think a little bit more i'm going on [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► 98 degrees John mountain I wouldn't have [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► got to have sent this is an example of [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► how the the demographics of commentaries [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► can be wildly out of line with [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► demographics of downloads your [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► purchasers oh sure however there is [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► absolutely no way that the people [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► commenting on this are only children [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► because the adult know that it doesn't [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► matter and it only I said mostly I [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► said mostly evidence that only I still [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► disagree how many children do you know [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► that have iphones I know it's a lot but [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► still come on [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► I i include young adults like I said [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► Young kalo that changes everything [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► these are people of all ages who want to [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► get their satisfaction I want to be [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► heard and want to send a message to [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► those greedy money-grabbing people [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► intend oh that is trust me that it's [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► this is the after i haven't read my app [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► store reviews for overcast in probably [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► two years and i have been so much more [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► mentally healthy as a result of that [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► because for years I would worry [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► what would the reviewers say what with [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► every change i made with everything i [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► did or didn't do I was constantly word [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► my apps like what will get more one [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► stars for this and you know what it [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► doesn't matter at all the vast majority [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► of the time if you have any number if [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► you basically have anybody looking for [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► your app for any other reason if they [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► heard about it somewhere if they know it [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► by name whatever else if you have any [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► number of people seeking out your app [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► reviews don't matter and if you don't [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► have a number of people seeking out your [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► app you're going to fail anyway so [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► really it kinda doesn't matter and fully [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► any i can i can urge all developers out [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► there please if you read your itunes [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► reviews you're after reviews its a [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► podcaster I don't read those either take [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► six months and don't read them and see [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► what happens it are you happier is [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► anything differently your sales and [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► different and probably not it's so true [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► so um there's a feedback form within the [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► app that are that I work on at work and [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► it emails a mailing list that's internal [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► to the office and in all the the [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► developers iOS and Android get all of [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► the feedback from both iOS and Android [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► and you would not believe the amount of [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► four-letter words and demands that we [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► get just the other day I was stunned [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► somebody wrote in such as such thing [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► doesn't work i expect this to be fixed [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► immediately like this is just some [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► random Schmo writing into the ether they [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► have no idea who this is going to expect [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► us to be fixed immediately but what it [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► was clearly an adult like this was not a [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► child this was an adult [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► you don't have to convince me that the [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► adults and send angry applicant angry [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► emails and random feedback about Apple [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► could not attend oh yeah no it doesn't [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► match it looks all I'm saying is this [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► specific game i would say the reviews [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► are skewed way more mail than the [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► purchasers and skew way younger than the [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► purchaser's not just by like a [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► percentage or two but hugely way more [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► mail and way younger and I'm gonna and I [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► would say that if you took the top 10 or [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► 20 angry as one star reviews complaining [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► solely about price [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► those are going to be dudes and they're [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► gonna be between the ages of young [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► enough to be able to write in to review [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► and like 25 I'm not something that I [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► mean you might be right i don't know but [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► i doubt it's not there all children it's [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► not that adults don't write an angry [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► things other applications is not the [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► reviews kill other applications all [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► those things are not things that I said [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► I said that I have to think these are [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► mostly children which it nailed down [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► into more concrete terms that these [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► reviewers sku more younger and more mail [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► and the more mail i think you can both [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► get on board with because honestly like [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► that men are terrible like just you know [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► that this term it's that's a gimme [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► right and and and not because people not [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► because men refused to buy things more [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► than anything it's just they're going to [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► tell you about it right and and then [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► young people like all people don't have [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► time for that crap right so it's just a [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► question of how are ya how it skews [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► compared to the demographics right that [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► the male part i agree with the youth I [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► agree with I believe these are both like [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► you know it it does sku that direction [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► it's not all men it's not all young [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► people i read right but but compared to [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► that compared to the purchaser's because [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► i don't have to think the purchaser's [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► it's probably even gender split from [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► area like it's a popular you nobody will [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► say it is all ages and it doesn't matter [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► whether they've heard intended or not [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► everyone's hurting Tendo doesn't [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► surprise heard of Nintendo but not but I [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► think your affection for nintendo is [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► deeply clouding your perspective here we [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► were somewhere that has nothing to do [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► with affection it has to do with it with [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► an understanding that the older you get [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► the more you realize what Marco just [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► said that no one reads those reviews to [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► find out whether they're gonna download [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► a game and all you have left is venting [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► and little really don't eventually give [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► up on venting because they realize oh no [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► they do not [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► are you kidding or do you have you ever [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► been around an old person the only do is [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► vent their writing to their congressmen [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► and sending angry letters to the diner [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► because it was cold [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► it's not different that's a different [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► than find different outlets oh noes [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► others there's a personality type that [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► liked that they they need to get their [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► satisfaction and they need to make their [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► voice heard about every minor complete [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► in their life i mean i can't i can't [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► really talk that much but isn't that [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► type of this does not change over time [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► this does not they don't like grow out [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► of that that stays with people forever [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► their entire lives all ages [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► that's what well maybe we have to wait [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► until the generation that grew up with [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► the app store gets that age but they're [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► not that a jet all right we were circle [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► we're going in circles and this let's [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► move on but let me make sure you need to [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► do apple is put demographic information [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► attached to all the comments so we can [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► just settle down there and say oh male [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► 18 male 22 male 25 always press but we [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► go [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► God of all the by the way if you go to [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► like here let's try to think of the [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► application that has the audience that [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► skews the oldest so what the the oldest [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► / I guess is probably health-related [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► like a blood-pressure things are like [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► health monitoring some broadcast TV apps [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► like an NBC app or something maybe but [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► that's probably broader than you think [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► but now maybe the CBS app is he was real [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► right and I have trouble because those [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► people who are that age didn't grow up [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► with the app store i have trouble at [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► thinking how many of them realize that [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► leaving a review is a thing you can do [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► even though they know they know i think [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► in small numbers but anyway Oh John your [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► innocence beautiful i would love to read [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► the angry reviews of of the application [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► whose room whose custom rescue the [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► oldest some maybe the AARP app or [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► facebook because that I think they would [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► look and comparing them like sentence [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► structure wise like with the things [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► they're about how they express [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► themselves to the angry Mary reviews i [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► think you could feed the text through [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► one of those like guess the age and [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► education level and year they were born [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► based on the words and sentence [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► structure they use [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► I i think the incredibly angry AARP app [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► reviews would look materially different [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► than the incredibly angry [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► Mariana reviews wow we have a new [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► sponsor this week it is called we sell [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► socks so it's that we sell socks dot-com [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► and that everyone just it'sit's a [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► one-person operation [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► he's a fan of the show and he said [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► whatever your request that Marco John [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► Casey critique the site and the service [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► negative and positive on first glance [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► instead of doing a regular add read that [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► is a bold bold maneuver my goodness [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► terrible idea [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► Johns Creek originally as even as you [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► never listen to the show it's a good [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► thing I'm not riled up today [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► haha so I think we should probably save [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► John for last case you wanna go first or [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► should I opening hero image good not a [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► movie good 14-month 14-month it's it's a [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► little aggressive depending on how much [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► how many socks you get into how fancy [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► they are scrolling down pretty good [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► calls to action pretty simple [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► Paul quote good faq smells site looks [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► good and i don't i'm not clear on how [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► many pairs of socks you get fourteen [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► dollars a month but the Sox look nice [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► they're colorful seems good to me i also [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► was not sure so forty dollars a month is [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► working hours when delivered worldwide [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► and with a clarification and it's [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► actually $14 Canadian oh because about [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► ten dollars us but there's a five-dollar [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► shipping charge on top of that i believe [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► and so that ends up being $14 fifteen [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► cents us including happy but it's not [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► working out about to see him so anyway [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► robot shipping that's good and they also [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► do a cool thing where where for every [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► pair that he sells and i'm pretty sure i [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► also didn't know how many pairs you get [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► i'm pretty sure it's one pair for that [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► that's because it's like he's like fancy [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► socks is not like it is like a pack of [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► hands like he's like fancy designer [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► socks like that like people who are [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► cooler than us would usually wear right [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► although honestly I have been thinking [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► about whether i want to get into the [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► world of fun socks because right now [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► we're very more assume that you always [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► the same black t-shirt every single day [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► jeans and a black teachers but every [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► de socks are different exactly oh my god [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► you two are out of control i need to [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► start drinking [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► holy crap so anyway so at and he also [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► has a school thing where for every pair [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► he sells he donates a pair to a local [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► shelter for people in need [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► almost there and it's not like it is it [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► isn't don't like a crappy pair here it's [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► a good pair along with the pair that you [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► buy all that that's awesome so it's it's [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► a cool mission i think the cycle [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► communicate this better because like the [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► thing about like how that's 14 hours a [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► month Canadian and that it's one pair of [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► socks and there needs to be [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► clarification on that but otherwise I [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► think it's pretty cool you know i know [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► there are other sock subscription [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► services out there but i would try this [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► one first honestly I've always I i will [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► reveal a secret to you guys i have [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► always had a dream of getting a [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► subscription service where i could wear [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► a pair of brand new socks every day of [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► course of course content of new socks is [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► so awesome you know and and the reason [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► why I've never done this because it just [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► obviously sounds incredibly wasteful and [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► because what do you do with socks that [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► were worn once like for one day at like [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► you can't just throw it away that's [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► terrible [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► and nobody really wants used socks so I [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► haven't ever done this or started this [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► business or patronize any such [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► businesses because that would seem [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► ridiculous but I feel like one pair of [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► of cool new socks a month might be a [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► nice compromise you are the clothing [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► equivalent of the billionaire who smoke [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► cigarette once and goodness and [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► cigarettes but sure yeah I'm pretty sure [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► I know what you're referring to [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► I I'm all right side i did look at that [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► time I had the same question I think it [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► needs to be clear how many things you [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► get I maybe i would throw in some more [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► reassuring text about like if you want [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► to bail you just cancel like the options [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► the stuff like that because you want to [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► overcome people's you want you to tell [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► people the deal is quickly and overcome [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► people's anxiety about getting roped [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► into something as for the concept Marco [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► aside which is something like a little [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► bit okay this is a thing that i have [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► seen like the idea that interesting [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► socks is part of [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► your look and I can imagine if that was [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► part of something you do just have fun [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► with your clothing [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► it's not that easy to find interesting [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► socks and also you never quite know like [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► if you're presented with you just going [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► at C&C like billions and billions of [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► weird socks which one should i get now [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► or whatever they're the aspect of having [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► someone do the picking for you and just [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► like you know having a be a surprise you [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► say like you take know whatever you you [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► arrive that's what you're gonna take [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► that is both freeing and a little bit [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► interesting and exciting so i can [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► imagine people not Margo doing this and [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► and getting a kick out of it [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► the website my only real complaint of [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► the the whatever those non loading [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► images are is a hate when they do the [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► little cut away with this the you know [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► the position fix background as you [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► scroll things above it so that the [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► pictures like that back when you scroll [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► I don't like that i don't like things [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► that break the physical metaphor of the [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► scrolling page i know of course you kids [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► like that but it's it's not for me [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► yeah and I think there's a lot of space [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► taken up by stuff that is not the the [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► most important to repair me to have [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► three paragraphs on anything but I feel [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► like information density could be better [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► legs than that yeah I it's not for me [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► it's probably not for Marco but I have [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► seen people in real life who are into [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► fancy socks and I subscribe to the idea [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► of putting that into someone else's [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► hands [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► so anyway I think it's a cool i think [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► it's a cool service i think john i agree [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► with you that if i were to be a fancy [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► sock person I would want someone else [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► who is more fashionable and into sock [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► choices than me to be choosing them for [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► me and that's what this would offer and [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► I think I might do something crazy like [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► this because you know for basically like [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► half of the days of my life when I put [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► on my outfit which is the same thing [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► everyday about half the time I put on [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► the socks i think wouldn't it be great [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► if all of my socks were exactly the same [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► and I wouldn't have to match up the [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► subtle difference between texts like [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► minor black pattern variations that [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► solves the problem of different areas [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► right and then the other half of the [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► mornings I think you know maybe I could [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► try some fun socks some time because [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► everything also where is boring and I [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► like it that way to keep it that way but [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► I'm always wearing a nice watch and I [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► wouldn't mind always wearing cool socks [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► so I have thought about this before and [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► I'm I might I might do it i also like [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► the idea that inevitably you'll get some [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► socks that you that you think you're [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► hideous in the same way like Jelly [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► Bellies when it's like a bad flavor i [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► think that is part of the front that you [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► know the whole idea of let's understand [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► how much socks as you're going to have [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► someone that are like exciting cool and [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► fun and maybe you wouldn't pick up for [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► yourself and you can have some of that [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► hideous and that is part of the fun [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► that's true yeah or just suppose to you [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► well you know you can you should you [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► should still wear them i can do a thing [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► of like even when they come in they're [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► hideous in the same way that you end up [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► eating like the jelly bean flavor you [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► don't like or like you put them all side [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► but then when you're done you still have [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► more jelly beans you just eat all the [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► black ones anyway it wasn't the worst [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► anyway thanks thanks to we sell socks [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► for sponsoring our show and check it out [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► thanks we sell socks [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► ah did you guys get your pots i did [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► wanted to I i got my little clicking [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► case right here fancy nice and what do [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► you think [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► which one you have to address one of us [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► posted 101 is that one time this is the [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► one time that the two of you don't jump [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► in and you wait for me to give you this [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► further that's ever happened i didn't [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► light up stupid fun fun up because i [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► would have gone i would have gone for [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► but i wanted to i want to go back to [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► this the the item i had for their [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► problems before we had received are so [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► this was last week is about why they [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► were delayed you know they they were [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► expected i think everyone that was there [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► so they're going to come in October [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► something and it's like we're the airpot [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► there's no there's some sort of delay [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► and apple had to scrap its entire first [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► production around of the things and and [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► remake a whole bunch of other in short [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► supply and there's a bunch of stories [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► about that and whatever their shipping [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► now and it was difficult to get them for [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► Christmas and and even in the new year [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► will be difficult and apple stores are [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► getting tiring shipments but what I'm [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► interested in is the idea of the delay [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► because a lot of people of were upset [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► about just because people want what they [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► want but also applesauce to be good at [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► making things what are they [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► why did they do this and I think this is [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► a situation where is anyone who is who [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► thinks this delay is indicative of [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► something bad about apple or problem has [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► things backwards it's disappointing like [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► you know obviously Apple would have [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► liked to have gotten them out sooner and [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► someone made a mistake somewhere or [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► whatever but the fact that there's a [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► delay is exactly what we want Apple to [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► be doing especially in light of like the [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► samsung galaxy note you know batteries [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► exploding or whatever it is that the [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► note 7 batteries exploding like the most [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► important thing Apple can do is make [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► sure that whatever it is they ship meets [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► their standards for whatever aesthetics [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► reliability safety so on and so forth [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► whatever this problem was that caused [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► them to have to delay the thing that's [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► exactly what we wanted to do like I was [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► ideally that you don't mess up right but [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► if you do mess up you have to do the [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► right thing and I just can't uh I can't [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► you know think about people being angry [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► at apple for delays like this is exactly [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► what we mean if anything ever goes wrong [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► is it well why did you ship it wasn't [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► ready [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► don't ship if it's not we say that about [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► software all the time is it's like [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► quadruple true [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► about hardware so I don't know what the [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► problem was I don't really care what the [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► problem was i would much rather have a [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► product that is ready to be released [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► then one that is rushed out and have [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► some sort of problem because who wants [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► to get their pods and find out there's [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► some little flaw and some you know even [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► two percent of the people have to end up [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► going back to the apple store that's [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► terrible must go back to the apple store [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► i'll wait an extra two months ship it [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► when it's done so i'm not gonna say I [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► applaud the delay because no one likes a [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► delay and again ideally whatever the [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► problem was Apple would have called [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► earlier and fixed it and you know this [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► is not exactly a good thing but this is [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► exactly what I want a a company to do [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► when they do make a mistake which [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► happens companies made of people people [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► make mistakes when they do make a [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► mistake and do the right thing about it [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► and it seems like that's what they did [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► cool i'm a little bummed that there was [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► a delay just because he seem like [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► they're super cool but I i completely [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► agree with you that that if you're going [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► to roll the dice you you died [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► error on the side of caution and in gosh [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► only knows what the delay was i think [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► was i fix it said that there were some [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► dubious tolerances or something like [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► that in the case which they somehow [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► extrapolated to mean that maybe there [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► was some some build quality issues I [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► don't know about that one way the other [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► hand that didn't that didn't read write [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► to me that that that read a lot more [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► like be completely baseless speculation [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► than anything real [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► I agree yeah like that's how I read it [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► too which is why I was kind of confused [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► by it but anyway but i don't know that [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► we'll ever know why the why there was a [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► delay but it's certainly I like you said [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► I'll take the delay and they did he get [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► in by the end of the year and i'll take [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► the delay over some sort of flawed [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► family if anything I'm hoping at this [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► point that they didn't do anything silly [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► to rush it out just to get something [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► ready for the holiday season of anything [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► I you know I'm hoping that like it [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► really was ready to ship and there [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► wasn't some immense pressure because [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► obviously there's immense pressure ship [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► but you know in time for the holidays [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► right uh and that can cause that's [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► exactly what causes a company say well [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► under normal circumstances I wouldn't do [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► it because we have to make the holiday [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► season [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► everybody's on here under huge amount of [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► pressure to just make it happen even if [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► they're not quite up to where they want [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► them to be and I haven't heard any [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► stories yet I guess we'll find out in [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► a couple months of our pods dire [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► whatever but I'm hoping that they waited [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► long enough because honestly like that's [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► the right move for the companies like [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► you your reputation as Apple as they [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► come you know just a samsung again it [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► you your reputation for reliability and [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► and doing the right thing and only [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► shipping products that are of the [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► standard people expect especially for [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► hardware you can't ship a CH right you [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► can't fix it in the point release that [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► is so much more important than even [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► hitting the holiday season especially [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► for company was much money in the bank [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► is Apple you have to miss the holiday [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► season [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► miss the holiday season you get dinged [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► for it and you'll say hey you tried to [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► the holiday season with your product and [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► you didn't and that's bad and you have [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► made a mistake but it's still a lesser [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► mistake then shipping people here pods [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► and blow up in their ears or whatever [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► yeah and for whatever it's worth 80 tips [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► on the chat is saying that the issue was [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► not blowing up in your ears [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► it was a manufacturing problem initially [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► related to the bluetooth hardware that [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► it was not performing well and was using [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► excessive battery during operation so [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► that could be true any of those things [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► like oh I got my ear pods they don't [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► connect or the battery runs out too [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► quickly and you know it again [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► Apple can't patch it if it's a hardware [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► problem so yeah and it does seem like [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► the basic operation of the most people [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► have had them for one or two days so far [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► but it does seem like they work well and [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► then with with a few exceptions a few [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► people have had like you know [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► interference problems or connection [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► problems with them but with with those [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► few exceptions that I've seen almost [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► everyone who has them seems very happy [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► with them so you guys starting with [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► Marco one more item to know god that was [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► the perfect segue we're not beholding to [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► the damn notes job okay John Jenni you [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► are you are you are the Warriors you're [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► into the passage of time earlier things [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► and then they're followed by later [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► things [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► Oh John the earlier item is at first [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► while apple's market have you lost any [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► of your project [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► I don't know TIFF has them right now but [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► when I gave it to her an hour ago last [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► time you saw them they were both there [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► that's alright i have lost mine either [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► but if I did was ask them last show what [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► we do about it [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► you can apparently replace one 470 bucks [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► i did have one follow my ear during [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► the first two hours of using it alright [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► well now we can shift into market [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► telling us all these nobody thinks that [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► I just wanted to be just wanted to get [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► the best that was a question that show [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► what happens if you lose one answer 70 [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► bucks yeah so that's obviously not bad [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► you know for what they cost that's [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► that's fine that's that it's good they [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► will sell you individual ones at all you [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► know because they could have just very [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► well said well you gotta buy a new pair [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► oh well and you know so i have to have [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► an option at all to buy individual ones [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► to replace lost broken ones is nice [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► yes so my impressions overall as you [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► know i'm reviewing all the headphones in [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► the universe and basically my my [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► concerns before this were I've never had [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► an apple earpods or any year pot or any [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► year but or any in out any ear near [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► canal phone that fit me comfortably and [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► and well that eat that both was [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► comfortable and would stay in I've never [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► found 1i my ears are just weird i guess [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► and i was concerned the Pierre pods [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► would fit me as well as the earpods do [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► which is with mediocrity with some [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► discomfort and they fall out and I was [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► also concerned about the lack of of [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► controls on the earpods on the airport [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► excuse me but it's come to take this [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► week and that is actually I you know the [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► lack of of like volume and play pause [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► and and seek back seat forward which are [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► very commonly used in podcasts one [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► person i'm sorry i forgot the name is [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► one person twitter said I've heard more [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► ads and overcast this week than I ever [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► have before with you haha but anyway [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► thanks to our sponsors so you know [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► they're the only have either Siri or [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► play/pause with the double tap gesture [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► now we've gone over this before so [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► anyway when they arrived those are my [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► concerns and they are exactly what i [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► thought they would be in good and bad [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► ways so in all the good ways the the [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► pairing process is awesome the case the [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► battery charging all that stuff is [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► awesome [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► the case is a little bit thick for [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► pocket use it fits okay in a little like [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► change pocket on top of your jeans right [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► pocket if it's okay in there [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► I didn't [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► think about that but otherwise they're [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► great they they actually you know i'm [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► not a huge fan of of your buds for sound [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► purposes but these sound pretty good if [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► you like hold them in especially like [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► basically the the amount of base that [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► earbuds have depends entirely on how [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► well they seal snugly inside of your ear [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► if they seal well if if they can really [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► rest in there really get land really [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► like large themselves in there you will [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► get great base and they will stay in and [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► if you are not mean they might even be [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► comfortable [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► yeah I couldn't agree with you more i'm [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► sorry for jumping in but i have a pair [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► of ultimate years I don't know how [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► they're classified but they're they're [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► basically earphones and I could not [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► agree with you more that when I have [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► them seated just right they are probably [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► the best sounding speakers that i own [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► and I have a couple of pretty decent [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► pair of headphones notnot Marco crazy [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► good but decent pair of headphones and [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► and I actually think the stereo my car [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► is really darn good as well but these [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► ultimate ears are phenomenal as long as [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► they're seated properly and the moment [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► they get even the teensy weensy is bit [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► unseeded it's a totally different [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► scenario yet so that's what the airports [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► are exactly the same base when they are [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► very well seated so that you get good [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► base out of them [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► the sound quality is very good when [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► they're that seated the the harshness of [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► like Antoninus of the mid-range and the [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► high is that you often get if they're [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► out a little more that gets softened and [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► and rolled off and muted a little bit so [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► it's actually a very well balanced sound [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► and 460 dollars a properly sealed air [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► pod is a really good deal in the [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► headphone world it's it's not the best [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► but it's really good especially for [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► something that small so when they're [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► well steal the sound good when they are [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► not well see like how they sit in my [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► ears they said a little loose i can't [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► get them to seal because whatever my [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► ears suck the base suffers tremendously [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► but the rest of the sound actually isn't [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► too bad the mid-range it's a little bit [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► accentuated and so it sounds a little [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► bit more harsh but overall I'm very [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► pleasantly surprised by how good they [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► sound and I really wish they fit me [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► better because [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► I would use them a lot more [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► unfortunately they don't they fall out [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► of my ears even if I'm just like I more [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► than yesterday when I was wrapping gifts [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► like walking around the table bending [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► over here and there and they fell out at [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► one of them fell after a few minutes the [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► fortunately I kind of felt happening so [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► i call it the other day area yesterday [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► whatever was i I took my dog for a walk [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► also and had to bend over to pick up [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► something that you have to do when you [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► take your dog for a walk and got the [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► worst almost happened [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► oh god it didn't it missed by like a few [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► inches tall spent seventy dollars at the [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► apple store that day didn't buy a new [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► one you can clean that off come on [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► natural and you clean that off I ok but [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► yeah so you have a kid you know it's [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► like everything in your house is covered [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► pooped and pretend it isn't i put in my [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► ear something you are you don't nobody [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► want so yeah manufacture the they don't [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► end and that actually happened to Jason [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► smells well you mentioned upgrade this [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► week so yeah I they don't fit me well [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► and it's unfortunate because they are it [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► is really nice to have something that [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► small on the the double tap to play [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► pause i have found to be fairly [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► unreliable you have to tap it pretty [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► firmly to get it to work reliably and [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► that's not good because it's kind of [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► uncomfortable [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► why would you do that rather than just [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► probably one of the earbuds out so you [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► can do that too [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► so basically I'm just saying like you [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► know for reference for reference the [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► gesture of either invoking serie [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► ordering play positive but depending on [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► your preference [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► it is a little inconsistent a little [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► little tricky to do reliably so that's [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► unfortunate but other than that they're [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► fine the sound is better than I expected [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► they are you know small and light and [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► they almost fit in my pocket comfortably [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► with the charging case and without of [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► course you could do everyone with them [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► they do unfortunately fall out of my [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► ears and so I i am i'm not going to [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► return them like they're nice to have [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► around but I think they'll be more like [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► something I keep in my backpack for like [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► a forgot big headphones and I'm like on [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► a trip or I'm going to the city you know [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► maybe I bring them that they said [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► something like that like where [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► like I'm not gonna be like bending over [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► much I'm i even get like sitting on a [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► train or a bus for a while like that [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► would be better for that but i don't so [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► I'm gonna keep them i'm glad i have them [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► but I'm probably not gonna use them [TS]