The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► yeah i think even today's pcs they can't [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► be that bad but don't have internet or [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► cardigan yeah i remember battle is like [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► you get a USB card ya know you've got [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► USB yeah but you know I don't think upon [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► my baby's alive six pci slot so it's not [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► a big deal [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► well you you would have a card for the [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► fast USB 2.0 card with like two USB 2.0 [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► and then on your motherboard like little [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► riser thing but all the party at 1.14 [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► your keyboard and mouse yeah then you [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► have the slow ports and plus plus the [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► ps2 park right because that's probably [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► what your keyboard mouse connected you [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► had lu2 ps2 ports and maybe color-coded [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► hopefully with the weather the teal one [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► for the mouse and the lime green one for [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► the what was that standard called the [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► standard that gave all the game others [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► only colors in the late nineties you [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► talk about with repeat the ps2 port like [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► the mouse's purpley they're color-coded [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► they're like pastel it when they got [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► colored it was like around nineteen [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► ninety eight or so and and that's that [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► there was a standard release by the pc [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► group of whoever they all agreed to use [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► these colors and they were ugly colors [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► so horrendous and theirs and they're [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► still in use today I think the colors [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► have not changed like the ports have [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► changed somewhat but like I i I'm pretty [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► sure it's still the exact seekers pcs [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► 9700 color code for ps2 keyboard purple [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► and mouse screen [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► ya think that's a pc system design guide [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► where they're more than is like they [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► were all sorts of that was like the [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► sound when you hear ya color coding [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► scheme pc 99 perhaps the most end user [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► visible and lasting impact of pc 99 was [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► that introduced to color code for very [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► standard types of plugs and connections [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► use on PCs sky blue is USB 3.0 for Speed [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► no good [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► burgundy is parallel port teal or [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► turquoise serial port this i think the [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► sound ones are the ugliest like that the [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► pink light blue lime green like those [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► are always like the ugliest one on the [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► back of the case there are made every pc [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► extra ugly because no matter how [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► tasteful you made your case you like [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► they put a little plastic ring around [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► all the law do things just like a [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► rainbow ugly pastel oh my god the end [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► and then and the the audio plugs that [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► they'll be in the cables would also be [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► those colors so you can play with them [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► up [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► oh my god so like this is just a library [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► of horrible nineties colors right here [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► is that is like a tasteless person's [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► idea of solving a problem [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► users don't know where stuff plug into [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► on the back of their pcs let's color [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► code them all is is problem number one [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► problem number two is if we're going to [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► color called the mall let's make them [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► all the colors that all clash with each [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► other and we never imagined bicycle pc [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► ever made [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► exactly p cont nine it is our 200th [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► episode spectacular before we go totally [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► off the rails i like to have a [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► touchy-feely moment since i am well I [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► used to be the touchy-feely person chief [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► but since irreconcilable differences is [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► a thing I don't know if I am anymore but [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► i do want to sell mean that you got that [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► reconcile differences like analog but [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► with people who actually know what [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► they're talking about [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► with all respect to my curly home i love [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► they are you suggesting though because [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► you're talking about the three of us are [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► you suggesting that John is the [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► touchy-feely one on that show [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► john is a is the this is the Dark Horse [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► touchy-feely 1 i'd say but anyway we're [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► getting and we're getting sidetracked [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► again in typical ATP style this is the [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► 200 200 episodes i've ever heard it [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► no but I wanted to take a moment and [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► genuinely from the bottom of my heart [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► thank every single one of our listeners [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► past present future every single one of [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► you those crazy people who go all the [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► way back in time to listen from the [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► beginning when they discover the show [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► later in the run for the 13 of you that [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► listen to neutral [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► i I'm sure that was sufficiently painful [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► and I apologize on behalf of all three [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► of us but but truly in in genuinely [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► being a part of the show has been been a [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► tremendous highlight of my life and and [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► has afforded my family some things that [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► we may not have been able to do [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► otherwise and it's thanks to all the [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► listeners even the ones who write as [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► cranky emails we appreciate you once you [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► read us lovely emails we really [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► appreciate you and and even if you [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► listen and don't write in we appreciate [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► you too so thank you from all of us to [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► all of you for being you and for [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► listening to the show and also on a [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► somber note if I can't remember my gmail [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► password there we go [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► this is going to be a short show can't [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► see the damn show notes but I just [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► remembered it [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► so we're good so what what is it that [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► makes somebody by a white car exactly so [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► here we go again [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► god you're such a day anyway it's funny [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► LOL looking back on that very first [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► episode of neutral eye [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► had I known that that was going to be [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► the first released episode i probably [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► would have started with a better phrase [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► my introductory phrase to tell you that [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► the world would have been something [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► better than what is it that makes [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► somebody by a white car all your dip it [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► seems about right what are you [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► complaining about that's like man I mean [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► I but are we really that different now [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► no but I would have had i had had I [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► known better at the time I would have [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► chosen a better introductory phrase [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► because if you think about I mean that [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► was my very first appearance on any [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► podcast ever and my first appearance was [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► was getting grumpy at you which again [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► maybe it's fitting in nature that now we [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► just sound better but it's the same for [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► the same people doing basically this [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► radio show now just be sound better and [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► the car stuff tends to wait till the end [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► of the show [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► yeah that is accurate because i have [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► been it was it is it is wild to me to [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► think and actually I was just talking to [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► a friend of mine at work at lunch today [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► you know I he was he was reflecting on [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► the time when the two of us where [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► jackals in the five by five chatroom and [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► here it is i'm talking with you guys [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► every single week which is which is [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► crazy it's bananas and and I'm very [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► thankful for it and again i'm thankful [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► for all our listeners and in this [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► touchy-feely moment is going to end in a [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► moment but but it is important to me [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► anyway and I think I speak for the other [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► two guys it's important to all of us [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► that that you guys know that that we [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► appreciate you [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► despite the fish that we play before the [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► live stream for every week we all like [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► you even John especially the people go [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► back and listen from the beginning [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► because those are the best people but [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► that it's a competition there's such as [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► so much important continuity that you'll [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► be missing out that don't do that and [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► it's becoming increasingly hard to do [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► that as time passes so better hurry up [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► and come through the back catalogue [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► those people are the best [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► that's the thing and because these [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► aren't 200 short shows you who [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► well the first like five were was the [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► first episode like 15 minutes or [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► something yeah it was like the [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► after-show of neutral week is recorded [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► one night and threw up on soundcloud it [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► was an inversion read through the [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► the show became the show the show began [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► after man but if I mean to think that a [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► that it was you know what was it [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► something like march of 2013 that we [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► formally announced that this was a thing [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► yeah and here it is it's it's December [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► of 2016 and with the exception of the [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► one crossover episode all three of us [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► have been on every single episode 4 200 [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► episodes every single week without fail [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► and and you know in the grand scheme of [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► things it's not a difficult thing to [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► talk to your buddies at home in front of [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► your own computer for a couple hours [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► each week but you'd be surprised how [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► challenging it can become especially [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► with like holiday schedules as we're [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► coming into so so I appreciate the to [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► you guys sticking with me and I [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► appreciate all the listeners sticking [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► with us and with that touchy-feely [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► moment unless you guys have something to [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► add [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► we can go on to a normal completely [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► accidental show remarkable and start [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► some kind of celebratory 200 episodes [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► sound this point in the podcast no [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► pressure [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► we could just make this a clip show you [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► just let you know just all the all the [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► wonderful clips from times past it is [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► the holiday season next step let's talk [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► about filesystems alright that's more [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► working doing regular show though [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► yeah it actually is really honestly I [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► could just sit here and bullshit with [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► you guys for a couple hours that's way [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► easier actually going back and pulling [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► clips that but I just 19 Safari windows [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► oh my god knows how many chrome window [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► still have open uh haha oh my god you [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► think about that of course is little [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► brother of course welcome windows [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► Oh dissen to the to the net i running [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► Safari and chrome all the time [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► oh my god why that the why on God's [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► green earth do you need more than 30 web [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► browser windows open [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► why is that necessary how many freaking [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► tabs are all 30 of the classroom now i [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► can close thing and microwave browse [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► wearing clothes like for the working i [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► can close the pages with the dates of [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► superclocked dates in it what's the [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► average number of tabs per window you [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► think it's like so you can still see the [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► titles like usually you know so like [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► eight [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► no that's tonight 1234 like five or six [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► like for example when I was looking at I [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► want to look up the dates for super [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► clock [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► I one window dedicated to looking at a [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► date that the super clock was was [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► released one window looking up the date [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► that system 7.5 was released and it [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► within those windows i have the google [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► thing and then I have tabs for the the [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► google research results that i thought [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► would be likely and then one of the tabs [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► eventually led to the answer that window [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► is done off to the side next window [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► well its got it why is it off to the [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► side it why is it not close so i could [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► refer to it when i just discussed this [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► and did the math in my head about what [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► the dates were only God so I let's do [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► some follow-up as as we always should [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► and John why don't you tell us about an [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► LG 4k HDR monitor fun fact buying the [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► modern new monitor for a new Playstation [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► I was lamenting the fact that it didn't [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► seem to be any place you could buy a 4k [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► monitor with HDR support you could buy [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► 4k televisions with HDR but not monitor [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► is not like reasonable size small things [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► you put on a desk and LG just [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► pre-announced / announced that they're [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► going to have a 4k 32 ish or something [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► inch HD are capable monitor that was [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► showing at CES or something so you know [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► you're welcome [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► all I had to do was buy a monitor [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► announced thank you my new mac pro John [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► oh god now I haven't pulled that trigger [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► yellow it i had a dream about the mac [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► pro last night [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► of course you did i wish i had I should [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► have written it down or told to an [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► ancient bird Merlin style music fading [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► memory but it's something like Apple had [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► introduced a new mac pro that look cut [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► from the front of what kind of like the [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► trashcan macro the name of it didn't [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► make any sense to me in the dream it [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► didn't make any sense and I kept asking [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► anybody everybody who would listen in [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► the dream why is it called us and I [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► believe the name was something like it [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► was like a browsing computer like web [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► browsing like why you calling it a [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► browsing [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► pewter doesn't make any sense this is [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► supposed to be the new mac pro pro the [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► replacement macro what does have to do [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► with web browsing that was called and [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► when you rotate around the backwards [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► instead of looking like the current one [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► on the back of the the trashcan cylinder [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► with a section that was just cut out [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► flat and what it looked like you know [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► but the flat place looks like it was [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► like the back of an old pc you know what [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► the the pci slots with a little covers [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► on God a little bit of unfinished steel [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► guys what it looks like on the back to [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► steal like a big flat section that was [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► steel and I'd like the graphics card [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► with a little port picking out of it and [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► then to pci slots but didn't make sense [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► because the cylinder and there anyway [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► that's what it looked like it was gross [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► i wasn't happy with it and it was named [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► after something having to do with [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► browsing which didn't make any sense [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► see normally I cannot stand to hear [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► about someone else's brain taking a dump [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► in their dreams like I just I cannot [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► stand dream recollections because they [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► make no sense i tried to make a concise [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► like there was more to it but I had the [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► highlights but I will you know for [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► whatever reason I I will tolerate dream [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► recollections about the mac pro because [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► i'm just that desperate for anything can [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► put the mac protocol even want this one [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► just like I i'm still having like [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► flashbacks of the back of this thing [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► like a back of a pc shoved into the the [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► back of a trashcan it was some and there [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► was some crap what about like all I [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► guess the old back with like the little [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► you know the little light up things and [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► everything and the ports being on a [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► little curve is just too expensive so [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► just going with like the back of a pc XD [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► case but you know that i would still buy [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► it and you would still not buy it [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► I don't know and who knows what I'll do [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► in the future all I know is if if Apple [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► releases something that they call a [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► macpro even if it is only slightly what [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► John is interested in John if you don't [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► buy 1 i'm gonna buy a friggin one for [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► you so this way I don't have to continue [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► to hear you lament about how you have a [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► mac pro that's older than then my child [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► by quite a long stretch i should add [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► heasley the your macros like four times [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► older than my child is older than both [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► of our children combined that's true [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► re yea right let's move on before i have [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► to go find a bottle of vodka and start [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► drinking [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► I wasn't planning on this being a [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► holiday spectacular uh the headphone [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► ports / jack [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► audiosource bugs i think was Marco that [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► talk about this [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► an episode or two ago and and the way it [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► was pitched will given the information [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► we have at our disposal the time is that [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► it was perhaps something with lightning [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► headphones where I know I'm sorry was [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► John the process up wasn't it regardless [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► when you plug in lightning headphone [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► sometimes the audio doesn't go to the [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► headphones when you unplug them [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► sometimes weird things happen and I [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► guess we've gotten word that this may be [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► an iOS 10 thing and not necessarily [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► lightning headphone sing so do either of [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► you want to build on that was that was [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► the feedback started coming in because [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► my report was like look at this new [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► iphone 7 and this new thing is happening [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► to me and I'm going to blame it on the [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► new headphone thing because it never [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► happened with my old headphones and the [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► first set of reports that were people [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► saying hey I've got an older iphone that [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► has a plain old headphone jack and it's [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► happening to me too so I guess it must [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► be iOS 10 related not hardware related [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► and then eventually more reports started [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► coming and saying nope happens in iOS 92 [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► so i'm going to say that I was just [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► lucky i put this point that I had never [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► run into his bug and I just happened to [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► see it coinciding with my lightning at [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► once because so many people have said [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► they've seen this on iOS 9 and with [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► plain old headphones so oh well alright [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► fair enough so we also spoke about my [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► safari back in forward swipe issue and a [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► brief recap occasionally and this used [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► to happen constantly years ago I would [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► use on my magic mouse or perhaps on the [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► mat on the track that on on my laptop's [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► i would do on the magic mouse and one [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► finger swipe on the on the laptops it's [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► two-finger swipe and I would attempt to [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► go si back or forward page and the page [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► would start to animate say back so to [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► from left to right and they would get [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► stuck in safari would be effectively [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► locked and i thought that i was just a [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► unicorn in the bad way and that i was [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► one of the few people this happened to i [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► got a lot of people I I can't put a [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► number on it but i'm more than i [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► expected people tweeting at me saying oh [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► my god i thought i was the only one [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► it turns out there's more of us than [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► just me a lot of people said that they [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► had this problem and we did get a [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► handful of people that said and I [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► haven't had a chance to try this myself [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► that when used when safari freezes when [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► swiping back [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► you need to restore the page to the [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► original position by swiping the other [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► direction and then safari will continue [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► working you don't have to like quit [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► safari a reboot or whatever the case may [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► be I again haven't having corroborated [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► that myself but I saw that mentioned a [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► couple of different times so it's worth [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► trying if you're one of those sad [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► unicorns like I am moving on Andrew [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► Bucky rights in to say I'm a controls [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► engineer working primarily an automotive [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► powertrain and I'm based in the Detroit [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► area just for your info the machine in [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► the video that we mentioned last week is [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► usually referred to as a mill turn as I [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► can do milling straight cuts and [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► drilling a hole drilling done by a mill [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► and turning which is done by lathe and [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► the important piece here is that we were [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► talking about how this is a very fancy [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► crankshaft and how wild that is he said [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► cranks are not usually produced like [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► this that was either a prototype part or [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► a crank for a race car engine or quote [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► unquote hypercar usually the crank is [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► cast in the rough shape of the crank and [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► only a few millimeters of material needs [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► to be removed some surfaces not even [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► touched by the cutter in most every case [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► except low-volume parts machining [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► processes progressive width apart [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► passing through around 10 different [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► miltern lades bouncer polisher and high [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► pressure washer which is 5000 psi water [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► for deburring and cleaning before a [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► finished part pops out [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► so this is not a normal procedure but [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► man was it cool to watch that makes [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► sense because they're saying like if [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► this is how this is what it takes to [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► make every crankshaft this seems that [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► seems excessive things like not not a [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► mass producing and not a process by [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► which you make a lot of anything because [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► it just looks so I mean you know you're [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► only making one of those things at a [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► time and the machine is the size of a [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► truck and so it just doesn't work as a [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► mass production pipeline get robbed also [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► added something that he says I don't [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► know a single production car with the [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► billet crank that's you know these are [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► these are machine from steel billets [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► local ability Frank Ferrari McLaren [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► Koenigsegg all used forged abilities for [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► custom race entrance so it's not even [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► even hypercar stone use it only if you [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► are making an engine for a an actual [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► custom racing car like for f1 or [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► somebody [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► into this if you're making a hypercar [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► solid consumers even that doesn't give [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► you enough money to occupy a gigantic [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► truck-sized computer-controlled milling [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► machine for god knows how long it takes [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► to make one of those links indeed we [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► also had a conversation via email with [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► an anonymous amazon employee who has [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► tried amazon go and this email chain i [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► wish i could publish it because it was [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► fascinating and I'm not being silly i'm [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► being genuine thought it was really [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► really interesting and so this [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► particular individual they said that [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► they were in like on the cue to get in [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► the beta but weren't there yet and then [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► just like it the next day they said oh [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► my goodness i'm in the beta and then the [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► following day they said okay I've been [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► and here's the situation and so to quote [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► them just got back from my first visit [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► no rfid no slanted shelves to push [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► product up front no clear wait pads on [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► the shelves though all shelves are set [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► up to be connected to a network so it's [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► possible the entire shelf is being [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► weighed and not and not a single aisle [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► got it they got their receipt about five [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► minutes after they left so nor don't [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► know door clustering it had everything I [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► grabbed including the starbucks i pulled [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► from the back of the stack [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► I thought of you John said are anonymous [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► writer writer the entire ceiling is an [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► array of wireless sensors and cameras i [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► think they may be taking full radar the [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► store to track people and product how [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► freakin cool is that I would love to see [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► this in person waiting five minutes for [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► your seems like they just have a card [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► that are the service just slow or is it [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► always gonna be five minutes the other [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► doesn't stop people from clustering but [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► also stops you if you got accidentally [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► charged for 99 bottles of something you [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► bought one bottle of finding that out at [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► five minutes later you could be driving [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► away and i have to circle back so it's [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► kind of crappy well no because maybe [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► this was a private email just to me [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► because I exchanged a couple with with [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► this individual but they said that if [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► you look at the special app that you [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► have to put on your phone in order to [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► use Amazon go once you get your receipt [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► you can just do a delete swipe you know [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► so that's a right to left swipe and it [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► will immediately remove that charger or [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► refund you that item or whatever the [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► case may be I'm assuming since it's all [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► amazon employees right now it's kind of [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► honor system [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► I guess but yeah I just can't leave the [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► store and then just deletes I've [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► everything [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► just bought the great system but I mean [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► according to this individual it was very [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► accurate and and there was no obvious [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► witchcraft about it other than the the [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► ceiling or array of sensors so very cool [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► stuff i'm really curious to see if this [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► goes anywhere but but very neat this [TS]

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00:21:41 ◼   ► was it yesterday as we record we're [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► recording on wednesday the 14th i think [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► was yesterday or maybe this morning [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► sometime it's been a blur for me at work [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► lately apple finally allowed us to give [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► them a hundred an eighty dollars of our [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► money and order air pots right at the [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► end of the year by an hour after it went [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► on sale the date had slipped to after [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► Christmas and within just a couple hours [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► after that the date had slipped to well [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► after Christmas and well into the new [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► year I haven't looked lately at what the [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► date is I would just like to say a [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► personal thank you to apple that they [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► had decided to do this based on the one [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► true time zone which is easier and that [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► makes me extremely happy because those [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► those jerks make us stay up till three [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► in the morning or wake up at three in [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► the morning to order our darn iphones [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► and it was lovely [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► well it would have been lovely hat I [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► ordered some to be able to just casually [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► say yes I'd like one of these please [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► i've been awake for an hour to and I'm [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► prepared to make this kind of decision [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► meanwhile i should add a certain little [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► someone whose name might rhyme with [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► smell is sending me a picture of him [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► listening to our show in earpods excuse [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► me air pods right now that big jerk so [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► hi Mason smell it's good to see that [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► you're listening on your fancy-pants [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► earpods can take solace in the fact that [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► is right ear hurts [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► yeah did either of you guys order a pair [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► Marco I'm I know you did so i guess i [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► should ask you John did you order a pair [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► i did i was excited to really i was i [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► also i'm glad they did in the right time [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► zone because i was awake and near a [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► computer at the time everyone said [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► airports are available and so people say [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► our partners around when i click order [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► and minor supposed to be delivered on [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► the 21st yep same deal same with me i'm [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► looking forward to how much they're [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► gonna hurt my ears but i really only [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► don't know is I honestly like all the [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► apples here but and all all your buddies [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► have always hurt my ears enough that i [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► really can't ever use them [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► I'm hoping these will be different [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► because the immense convenience of them [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► is you know I don't care how crappy they [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► sound if they are comfortable at all i [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► want to wear them on a regular basis to [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► listen to podcasts while on-the-go that [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► will be awesome and it will be extra [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► awesome to just like you know their case [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► is so small you can you can bring them [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► like a you know like like all your but [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► people have always known forever [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► you can bring them like in a pocket or [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► bag that would otherwise be too small [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► for most other kinds of headphones so [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► you can kind of always have them with [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► you and that's something that I have [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► wished for [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► since I started carrying portable music [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► devices it's a click [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► you just always have it with you so that [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► if you find yourself in a situation [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► where you need it or wherever you'd like [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► to listen to something you can just take [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► your headphones out of your pocket and [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► listen and I've never had one that small [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► before because they don't fit my ears [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► but i'm going to really try to make [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► these work because I really want that [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► convenience for everyday walking around [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► to try whittling them down or something [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► like a carving knife good carved himself [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► from a bigger ipod the other thing to [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► like you know as as i have used my [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► iphone 7 more without its real headphone [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► jack [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► basically the more I live with the [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► iphone 7 the less I ever want to use [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► wired headphones with it again it it's [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► not that you can't do it you know you [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► know we know we can do it with the nine [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► dollar dongle but it is such a clunky [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► experience and such a limited experience [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► like if you want to charge your phone on [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► the plane I really do not intend to ever [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► buy another pair of wired headphones [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► that is intended for my desk ever again [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► so how amazing would it be like this is [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► casey's fantasy tonight is Marco gets [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► the set of their pods and put some in [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► his ears and realizes me you know these [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► don't hurt my ears maybe this earbud [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► thing ain't so bad and in typical Marco [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► style fast-forward two months you know a [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► casey have you ever heard of getting [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► your ears poured in getting like in-ear [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► monitors these things are amazing [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► that's not the same thing you're not are [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► not the same as 10 line now you know [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► city seal going into your ear canal [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► these are outside you know [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► I i think is a long distance to go from [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► ken Margo's weird-shaped years tolerate [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► tolerate plain old earbuds which is what [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► i would call these things too [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► can I get some crap shoved right up in [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► my ear that's a whole different thing [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► but also like any in your monitors the [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► guy I respect them as as category [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► I've never remember where the myself I i [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► I've tried I've tried a couple and i got [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► like the fancy comply tips and all those [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► things and and yet none of them really [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► ever worked for me but they also are [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► very different in the way they function [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► in the first of all there are very few [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► if any wireless ones and as you said I [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► am right now for for my needs away from [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► my desk i'm only interested in wireless [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► from this point forward and the other [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► problem is that they isolate really [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► really well they really block out all [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► outside sound and most of the time when [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► i'm using my portable headphones that's [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► actually not what I want [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► if I'm like I'm like walking it you know [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► around my town walking my dog walking [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► down more than you know from the city or [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► from walking through airport alone like [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► i will use these headphones on all those [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► times where I really don't want that [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► much isolation from the outside world so [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► I in your monitors are great for lots of [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► people and use cases that I don't have [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► no that's fair i in in case listeners [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► you weren't aware I've been beat marco [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► up for probably a year to now that my [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► dad has a set of custom in-ear monitors [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► that he had had done a couple years back [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► where you go to some sort of special ear [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► doctor I'm sure there's a term for it [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► audiologist oh yeah we're an audiologist [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► whatever the case may be in you and you [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► get a mold made of your ear canal and [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► then you send that mold to a company [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► that will make a set of ear phones i [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► guess they would be called that is [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► molded for your ear specifically and i [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► keep saying to Marco oh my god imagine [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► how amazing it would be to have a [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► speaker or a series of speakers the [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► millimeters away from your ear drums or [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► whatever the the receptacle is that you [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► need to listen to things and everytime [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► Marco said yes but anything that goes to [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► my ears as evil and doesn't work and so [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► that is the source of my fantasy is what [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► if this was the way to get marco to try [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► in your monitors and realize that this [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► headphone businesses just a bunch of [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► ways it's a total waste of time [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► we'll see time will tell listeners time [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► will tell [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► anyway in any case i am actually hopeful [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► that i will at some point receive a set [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► of their pods I didn't buy them only [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► because i don't i don't have an urgent [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► need for them [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► I I mean the holidays are coming up but [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► i don't expect to receive them for the [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► holidays by persons I did you do you [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► expect did you not order them yourself [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► that you sent casually send the URL [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► Theron or something [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► no no I thought about it but I didn't I [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► didn't I got a good plan for something [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► like that yeah probably not [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► Plus aaron has been going on and on [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► about how how this is going to be a [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► great Christmas and Hanukkah for me and [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► I got to tell you the truth I i did not [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► do as well for her this year so I'm [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► already feeling pretty guilty but anyway [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► to set expectations [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► yeah right so in any case I I think [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► you're my birthday's in march so maybe [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► i'll get it set pair whatever for my [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► birthday I'm but I definitely want to [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► try them i'm super intrigued by them I [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► think they look really really awesome [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► and i think it's it's a very aptly way [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► like this to me is the Apple that the [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► three of us love it in and i hope this [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► doesn't take a negative term but this is [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► Apple taking a thing that was annoying [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► but we all want most of us lived with [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► like the traditional bluetooth i am a [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► proponent and defender of it but i [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► cannot sit here and say it's perfect and [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► it's flawless it's sufficient and inform [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► me that the trade-offs are worth it but [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► this this w one chip and all the fancy [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► bluetooth stuff that they're doing this [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► just looks awesome and it's solving a [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► problem in the most aptly best possible [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► way and I'm really looking forward to at [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► least trying trying their pods at some [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► point of not getting my own set and i [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► agree with you Marco that that as much [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► as I'm giving you a hard time in your [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► monitors are not the right answer for [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► like walking around or anything like [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► that i had a sent to me a set of bone [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► conducting headphones i will put a link [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► in the show notes for the life of me I [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► can't remember the the name of them and [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► I apologize because it's it's right on [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► the tip of my tongue but anyway we'll [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► put a link in the show notes and I i I'd [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► are talking about I've actually been [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► meaning to try those myself but haven't [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► quite gotten to it yet [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► yeah well if you remind me I'm we're [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► going to see each other in a few weeks [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► and i'll bring you around that they are [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► they are not the greatest for music it's [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► it's a bit tinny which makes sense [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► because if you're not familiar with bone [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► conduction headphones way it works is [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► there's nothing over here itself they go [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► kind of [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► around your ears and press I guess [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► that's your cheekbones that are the the [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► bones that kind of stick out a work well [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► for your cheeks are anyways so they [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► vibrate your cheekbones which kind of [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► somehow vibrates the inner ear that [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► sounds really scary and sketchy but [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► actually it works really well in my word [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► for podcasting they are for listening to [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► podcasts i should say they are [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► phenomenal and what's great about it is [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► you can have them in and still be [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► completely and totally aware of what's [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► going on around you the aftershocks [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► tracks titanium that is the name of the [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► is the name of the headphones i'll put a [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► link in the show notes and if all you're [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► doing is listening to podcasts I cannot [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► recommend these enough and i think that [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► the air pods are going to fill a similar [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► gap except they'll probably be far [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► better for music now they'll probably [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► have a little more isolation which is [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► both good and bad but they'll probably [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► be far better for music so i'm really [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► anxious to try air pods hopefully you [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► guys will bring a set and in you know [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► i'll bring some like disinfecting wipes [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► or something so after I tried that they [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► can disinfect them but but i would love [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► to try them when we see each other in a [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► few weeks i am super amped to to see how [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► these are and see what the real world [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► says once they're out in the wild the [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► one concern I have is and i remember now [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► why didn't rush order the bone [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► conduction ones the the mean issue I [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► have with so many bluetooth headphones [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► is a lack of easy you're good or any [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► controls for volume seek back seat [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► forward play pause the it like it you [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► know regularly with the wireless you [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► have the clicker and clickers its own [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► you know set of challenges like the [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► various multi click gestures doing is [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► reliably is always a little tricky and [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► everything but the reason I've stuck [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► with my ugly sennheiser PX 2 10 BTW for [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► so long is because it has these big [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► plastic buttons on the right earcup and [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► like right now it's getting cold outside [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► so on a lot of my walks now wearing [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► gloves and i couldn't i can feel and [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► accurately push these giant plastic [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► buttons through gloves even and it's you [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► know one click for back one point [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► forward you know pick up food up in a [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► volume middle four paws like it's so [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► convenient and almost every day [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► good bluetooth headphone does not have [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► good controls like almost all the other [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► ones the ones the ones that are on your [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► over here they get all fancy with like [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► touch gestures and those are all believe [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► me I've tried so many they are all awful [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► that shuts the words like like i'll make [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► a little swirl motion with your hand to [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► turn the volume up [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► yeah that works really precisely like it [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► oh my god and there's delay and you [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► gotta tap again know it's there they're [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► so unreliable to so annoying [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► that's always a challenge of lieutenant [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► Andy you gotta figure out kind of [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► physical design problem like where do [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► you put the controls on some of these [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► and the air pods from from you know what [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► we know so far they only have one [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► controller gesture which is a tier [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► tapper DoubleTap i forget do you [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► remember which one [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► anyway whatever it is it's by default [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► and toggle Cirie and you can apparently [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► change it in the preferences to instead [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► be a play/pause button but that's it [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► and so I I do worry about that and I am [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► I worried about that with it as it with [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► all bluetooth headphones because most of [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► them have either bad to know controls so [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► I that I think is going to be [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► frustrating to only have play pause [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► control or you can ask Syria to play and [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► pause your stuff but that's I don't [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► think that would be good for for me to [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► remain positive but apple stuff so I i [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► think i'm not going to configure mind [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► that way but I you know I i assume the [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► dsi I guess the the design assumption [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► here is that maybe you'll want to [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► control things either all through Syria [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► which is probably not great or through [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► the apple watch or through your phone by [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► taking out your pocket everything and [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► those are all ok answers none of them [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► are as good as having actual physical [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► controls that are near or on the [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► headphones but we'll see how that works [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► in practice I i think the air pods [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► overall will be so incredibly convenient [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► that will probably be willing to [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► overlook the annoyance of the lack of [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► physical controls on them even though [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► that will be a big annoyance but i think [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► the comedians we'll just be so great [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► that it that will overlook that there's [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► another wireless dongle to be the [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► controller you got the year because I [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► mean as far as I'm concerned it's not [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► you mean like an Apple watch [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► I would probably take that in fact I did [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► wear my Apple watch recently just a [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► congratulation give it to happen but I [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► what's going on me but like I just don't [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► want the wire connecting because that [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► gets caught on things and it's annoying [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► so if and also like reaching into my [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► pocket to try to find the volume on my [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► phone I can probably pull that off but i [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► don't think there's any hardware button [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► I can hit on my phone that will advance [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► or go back right [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► funny thing i actually I prototype to a [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► while ago with overcast I i use the [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► accelerometer on the phone during [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► playback to try to detect if you would [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► just tap the phone in your pocket you [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► just hit the back with your finger and [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► try to interpret tap gestures the same [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► way you do it on a remote clicker and I [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► almost got a working you can actually do [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► it and it works ok but it doesn't work [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► reliably enough it like I i get through [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► to be good for maybe like two-thirds of [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► the time but that's not that's nowhere [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► close to have a reliable has to pee to [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► make it actually usable that 13 your [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► phone out the window but I actually I [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► wanted to solve this exact problem like [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► just I want to remote control my pocket [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► just go tap tap [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► you know or whatever it is just tapping [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► the back here at the back your phone in [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► your pocket as you're walking and you [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► don't want to have something I want I [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► want button sewing buttons that I can [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► feel buttons you can feel with gloves on [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► even but you can tap it with those onto [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► doesn't matter [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► yeah tapping tapping is my not not the [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► way the closet but your Apple have to be [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► frontmost right know if it's playing [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► audio i can get it can be continuing [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► right well anyway I'm I don't want to [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► tap anything i'm gonna buy anything but [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► sold on manufacturing sold the processed [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► that's the second one you guys mr. not [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► well I i get that is a reference I [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► forget what it's a reference from its [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► always on back to work [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► that's that's always been the movie you [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► haven't seen that's what is a reference [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► to like so many things in life well [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► that's that every movie right [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► real-time follow-up from Mason smell it [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► is double tap and you can choose to [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► either have that engage serie play pause [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► or do nothing at all [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► also Mason smell would like to tell john [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► siracusa that it was saying anything and [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► say anything that you're right now Jason [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► knows how are you can have to do nothing [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► at all it's a great option it's usually [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► excuse me it's mason that works speaking [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► with thank you very much [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► I'm impressed that you're that you're [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► keeping the street because I'm trying [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► real hard you have no idea [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► Teddy K so yeah so it's everywhere all [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► amped for our new head forward air [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► earpods earpods whatever we're calling [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► them headphones things you can't give [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► that strict it whenever I move on from [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► their pods uh if they have apple sold [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► like applecare+ for air pods for like [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► thirty to fifty dollars would you buy it [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► would cover well cover like if you lose [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► one of them are if it falls and you step [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► on it or whatever like instead of having [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► to buy a whole because i'm assuming your [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► only option is a one falls out of your [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► ears or gets knocked down and you step [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► on it breaks is your only option hundred [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► sixty dollars out of pocket to buy an [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► entire new set you can't just buy one [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► right so the applecare thing would like [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► 30 to 50 bucks where you get you know if [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► you get you damage them to lose them [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► anyway you get a replacement for another [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► 50 or some crap like that would you buy [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► that i don't think i would but I'm [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► cheapest health so I'm gonna try to [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► gauge is like you predicted you're gonna [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► have problems either losing or breaking [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► these things I don't think so [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► Margo my policy with buying extended [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► warranties most of the time is to not [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► buy them and then if in my life and [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► having to pay out of pocket for so many [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► repairs that it would have been more [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► expensive than buying all these things [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► you know up to that point then i will [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► start buying the extended warranties [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► from that point forward that your policy [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► is closed the door at barn door after [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► the horse is gone but it's my fault [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► she's basically like let me let me take [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► the risk and see if in my life I need to [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► pay this kind of insurance premium or [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► not and so far in my life it you know in [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► my entire adult life of owning expensive [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► gadgets i have almost never bought the [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► extended warranty and have also almost [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► never needed one so I'm coming out way [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► ahead basically have you thought about [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► ensuring your watches for either theft [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► or damage [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► I'm genuinely asking i'm not trying to [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► be snarky no I have I mean it's smart it [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► you know it's in when you have like [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► homeowners insurance that's a different [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► that's a different thing and so yeah we [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► have we have the we have we have our [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► jewelry items covered under the [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► homeowners insurance that you know [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► specifically like under like a writer [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► for them but that's very different and [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► way cheaper than 350 dollars for every [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► lap I sure sure [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► is it through and fifty dollars for [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► laptops [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► that I think for the 15 th i think it's [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► 300-350 credit on my laptop's when and [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► so with apple like it so the the price [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► of the warranty does not take into [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► account the price of the options when [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► you buy it so like the warranty for the [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► base model mac pro that's three thousand [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► dollars is the exact same price as if [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► you spec it all up make it like nine [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► thousand dollars so if i'm buying lately [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► so for my imac i actually did buy the [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► extended warranty be cause my imac was [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► something like a 4400 configuration it's [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► like that like it as much as you can put [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► into an imac when i bought it two years [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► ago and the end it was priced at [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► something like 200 bucks for the for the [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► similarity so i did buy for that [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► figuring like this is a large thing with [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► everything inside and get this is a [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► really is very small percentage of the [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► cost based on the cost of the whole of [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► the whole item and so I figured like you [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► know the the the risk-reward ratio there [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► was different but on on almost [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► everything else I don't get it because [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► almost everything else doesn't make any [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► sense [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► we respond to this week by hover and the [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► new dot blog top-level domain go to [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► hover com and use code air pods for ten [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► percent off this week from AI doomsday [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► theories two puppies wearing fedoras [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► over 2 million blog posts covering every [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► topic imaginable are published every day [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► you know I kind of feel partly [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► responsible for that anyway that's why [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► it's so important to have a great domain [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► name that stands above all the noise and [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► as of late November the much-anticipated [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► dot blog domain extension is now [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► available for registration at hover this [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► means you have a much better chance of [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► finding your first choice of a unique [TS]

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00:40:49 ◼   ► blog plus all dot blog domains come with [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► all the great things you'd expect at [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► hover like free who is privacy no [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► heavy-handed upselling and their [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► signature no wait no hold no transfer [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► phone support if you want it to register [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► your own dot log domain name head over [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► to hover com and use promo code air pods [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► to save ten percent off your first order [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► hover domain names for your ideas [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► Marco had an experience today or [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► recently anyway would you like to tell [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► us about that [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► oh I went to microsoft store i'm so [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► sorry i mean really how was it [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► so I was in the mall recently I had some [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► time to kill while my wife and kid but [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► did something else so I when the [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► microsoft store and amazingly there was [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► nobody there [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► really seriously so crowded so I got to [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► play with the big surface to get a [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► display so stark aside i I'm genuinely [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► interested to hear how you thought of [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► this because at a glance this thing does [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► look pretty damn cool we talked about [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► this a few episodes ago i'm curious so [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► did you did you play with the tilt did [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► you play with a little dangly thing tell [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► us all about it so I did I i play with [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► everything so first of all the base is [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► way too light like it they at the base [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► of it interesting that they use these [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► laptop components like you know the [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► people accuse the imac being happy with [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► the imac is kind of a combination of [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► desktop and microphones mostly desktop [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► parts really the the surface to do is [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► really laptop components and the base of [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► it is very small and light it's a lot [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► smaller than you think and kind of [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► unnecessarily so like one of the point [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► of use i have it was like while tilting [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► it would kind of wobble sometimes [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► because it's just like the screen is so [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► much heavier than the base that kinda [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► out of it [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► I don't know why they had to make the [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► base so tight and so tiny and take all [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► the trade-offs of lower power components [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► to do that I think that was probably a [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► mistake but oh well [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► well I think part of their advertising [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► pitches that it's supposed to be easy to [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► move around like it's not supposed to [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► feel like it is rooted in whatever place [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► it is because you get you can imagine [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► having it set up on its vertical like a [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► screen it would be positioned [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► differently than when it's the other way [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► so i think i think they actually have [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► like a lazy susan on the bottom type of [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► things we can rotate I think it's [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► supposed to be light enough that you [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► don't feel like it is anchored to the [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► desk at the place where it's put that's [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► fair okay and and it i mean does feel [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► like you can you move around freely and [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► it really does feel what it feels like a [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► giant tablet it does not feel like a [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► desktop computer so I got to play with [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► the the whatever they call their their [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► stylist and whatever they call the big [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► knob the surface style [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► not sure it depends call but surface [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► style is the the knob cool so I got to [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► play with play with the the big knob [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► well I got to feel the big knob however [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► not improving none of the apps that that [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► I tried which was like something I [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► already forgot what it was and then I [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► spent a lot of time in lightroom and [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► lightroom did not support the big knob [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► so i did not get to get to use it for [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► anything really so i put the big knob [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► down and I just play with the stylus and [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► and using the end and the touchscreen [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► and this is the first time I've I think [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► ever played with a touch screen windows [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► pc oh no I i play with windows 8 1 back [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► into anyway so I have very little [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► experience with touchscreen Windows PCs [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► and i never use like a mod book or [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► anything so I've never tried a mac OS [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► either but I am I do have a lot of [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► students in lightroom and so I figured [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► let me try light rivers it's a program [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► already know how to use let me see how [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► it works on this thing I gotta say I've [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► really liked it and and there are things [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► I didn't like about it but overall it [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► was surprisingly good [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► like even using using touch control in a [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► desktop OS which everyone says is a [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► terrible thing [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► honestly I suggest you try it because it [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► I i'm not entirely sure i'd want to do [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► it full time but to have the option it [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► was kind of cool to be able to to [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► control lightroom this program already [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► know how to use pretty well and people [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► do things like you know when when using [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► a touchscreen you effectively have [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► multiple pointing devices simultaneously [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► so you know when you're sitting here on [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► a desktop using using a mouse you're [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► controlling one mouse cursor and even if [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► you get all fancy like I do when you [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► have a track down the left mouse in the [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► right you have to point devices your [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► sterling also only controlling one mouse [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► pointer and there's only one thing at a [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► time they can have that much pointer you [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► know that there's a lot you only point [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► to one thing that I'm going to click on [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► one thing at a time when you have a [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► touchscreen even the setup environment [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► you effectively have like multiple input [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► points at any given time you can use [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► your different fingers in different [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► hands so it actually was really easy to [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► work in Lightroom very quickly on this [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► thing and I i can see like it would have [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► been a lot better if it was designed for [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► it and I guess this is the case for just [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► big iPads [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► because they are designed for in the [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► star but it was pretty cool like and of [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► course I Eileen the whole thing down i [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► did like the the almost flat on the desk [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► screen arrangement to do most of this I [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► was it wasn't up if it's up it straight [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► up vertical then touching it makes no [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► sense i agree with that but when it's [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► kinda like drafting table angle it [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► actually worked surprisingly well and i [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► still really didn't like any part of [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► windows at all and it I wasn't confused [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► by it really like you know I used was [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► long enough i have a rough idea of the [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► windows vocabulary how to do things [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► because most of it's still the same from [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► from how it was back when I was no [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► winners expert so you know that the [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► Corvette is still the same and so you [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► know most of windows I still don't like [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► however if you are by a computer whose [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► main purpose was to be like a creative [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► work station to run a particular app [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► like lightroom or photoshop or like a [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► video editor if that app runs on Windows [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► without any kind of massive downsides [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► this could be a really compelling option [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► like really if I end and so because [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► Microsoft is positioning it that way [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► they're they're using this as like a [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► creative thing you put in a studio that [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► we were you you're basically buying a [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► workstation you know for the purpose of [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► running like one or two creative apps [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► like as your main thing as your main [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► role for the computer this is actually [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► pretty compelling but I I can really see [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► like it basically what you're doing [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► doesn't really if it doesn't really [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► matter that is running on windows like [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► it's one of the adobe apps it's it's [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► kinda cool and I did have issues with [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► like you know like room has a lot of [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► very tiny interface elements little tiny [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► sliders and everything and what they [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► were a little hard to hit with with the [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► pen sometimes but it wouldn't take a lot [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► of adjustment if adobe really want to [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► put an effort into this to make that [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► really awesome also windows like I I [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► don't know what the deal is windows high [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► DPI mode [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► I know it's a mess but basically like [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► you know with Apple you just 2x [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► everything with retina and everything [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► kind of just worked and developers had [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► to do a little work but not much and it [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► was great with Windows I guess they have [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► like that they have their high DPI motor [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► they can scale to any number [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► pixels and they kind of scale some [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► interface elements but not all of them [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► and so you had like ridiculously tiny [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► little text and tiny little checkboxes [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► in the middle of giant block of [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► interfaces it was very strange yep so [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► obviously up that I decide to but I I [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► tried to run my vm that I was working in [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► a few weeks ago I tried to run that high [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► DPI mode and it was really really bad [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► like some things were tiny like you said [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► some things were the size I expected [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► them to be the fonts were just not built [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► for high DPI like it was just a really [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► crummy experience as compared to the mac [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► where I am NOT trying to be funny but [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► everything really does just work the Mac [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► was gonna be that the way you described [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► windows as for a long time I get to I [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► think I remember I was WBC two thousand [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► seven ish where they were saying come [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► 2008 resolution independence as they [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► called it then we'll be here so prepare [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► your apps and then 2008 came and they [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► didn't used to be a little slider in the [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► resolution you go 1 x 1.5 x 2x 3x and [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► you can just move that slide around and [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► watch every interface on your computer [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► break essentially got pixel cracks you [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► got things that are not scaling the [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► right size you get ugly crap [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► it was so smart of them to just spend an [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► extra few years fair figure out how to [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► make like that they weren't going to [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► ship it in a state where somebody could [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► configure their mac to look this gross [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► and so eventually the solution came up [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► as we all know is this 2x4 it's nothing [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► and even that was hard enough to get [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► everyone on board with but at least one [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► that works it works right and [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► predictably yeah that Apple definitely [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► been on the right side of history and [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► that one that the end because windows is [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► very much suffering from this anyway so [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► yeah there's issues with windows for [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► sure and and again like I wouldn't be [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► interested at all in this computer if I [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► wanted to if I wanted to be like a [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► general-purpose computer or my main [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► computer but again if I were building a [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► computer whose sole purpose was to be [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► like a photo editing workstation i would [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► really give this serious consideration [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► because it really was surprisingly good [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► and I went in there all thinking you [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► know a lot let me like taking mental [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► notes and how much everything sucks i [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► can be funny on the show but no it [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► actually is good like and I yeah I [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► wouldn't I wouldn't you [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► no I wouldn't say it was it was terrible [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► if it wasn't and here i am saying it's [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► not terrible it really it like if you [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► can tolerate windows in general it's a [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► really cool computer so what was the [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► pending latency like did you doing like [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► drawing in any of the drawing i know [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► that's a lot of that app dependent as it [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► isn't the ipad for example how notes on [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► the ipad is like perfect and many [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► drawing apps like I don't like a pro [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► create or paper a lot of those attending [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► or brush using your leggy but anyway [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► that one of the complaints that I heard [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► about the service studio is that the [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► parallax was a little bit off like these [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► the guys at the glam distance between [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► the the glass that you touch and the [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► place where the pixels are was enough to [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► make it feel weird and also that some [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► people said it feels like in certain [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► situations the the parallax glass gap [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► thing is a real problem it i didn't use [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► it for any kind of drawing i really only [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► use it for like sighs some apple [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► launched by two seconds and I could I [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► can figure out and then I just want to [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► like rumors that you had to use that [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► button so i was mainly using the pen [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► tool i dragged around sliders and stuff [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► so for that basically using it as a as a [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► precision mouse pointer it's great and [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► and in fact i really enjoyed doing that [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► because like in the same hand that I had [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► the pen in here i have his fingers doing [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► nothing and so if i wanted to like you [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► know you do like the one of the pictures [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► just my other fingers it mostly worked [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► great and like palm recognition was [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► distinguishing between pen and touch was [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► great there was I don't think in my [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► panic i pray you sir for 10 minutes [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► I don't think there was a single time [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► when it misinterpreted one of my inputs [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► like it seemed like it was really really [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► quite good at that for latency is tough [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► to judge because remember when the ipad [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► pro came out with the pencil latency [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► varies a lot by the application it you [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► know really depends a lot of what you're [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► doing in the app so it was easy with the [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► Apple pencil that you know to to be like [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► oh you can measure with notes example [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► did a lot of work to make notes really [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► fast and I with the note sketching thing [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► you can also go and look at one of the [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► fancier our taps their brushes were way [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► slower and wail a gear on the same [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► hardware at the same time just give [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► their apples and as optimizer it was [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► doing way more complex rendering and so [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► I I can't really judge the surface to do [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► in that way [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► I can judge how how the pen was an ass [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► pointer to adjust sliders in lightroom [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► and it was great and it was also really [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► nice to have like the pen slider in my [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► right hand you know that depending on [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► the slider my right hand and using my [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► left hand to pinch and zoom and pan [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► around the photos editing as i drag the [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► slider i mean again like to have that [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► kind of multiple input multiple [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► multifunction having multiple pointing [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► devices is really compelling when it's [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► done well and I i have never felt that [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► productive on an iPad mostly because [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► like you know the the kind of apps I use [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► for high-end creative needs aren't [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► really on the ipad yes there's like [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► romantic but it's kinda crappy it's not [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► really the same thing and also like [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► that's not you know it's the hardware is [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► not quite up to speed to to manage like [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► giant photos and stuff like that so like [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► iPads don't get this kind of use from me [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► and from from i think most people who [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► are dealing with this high-end creative [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► use right now but in the future if there [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► is a huge ipad that even you know even [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► bigger the point you know that like now [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► I finally get why you would want to [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► giant iPad like even bigger than fine [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► like why you want to 27 I finally [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► understand that now you know it would be [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► a desktop and it would be fine like I I [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► totally get it so overall without [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► drawing without too much longer I really [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► just I just wanted to say like I was [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► blown away by how good it was and i'm [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► not going to go out and buy one because [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► i really have a need in my life for a [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► like single-purpose workstation computer [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► that's like a lightroom station like i [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► don't i don't need that [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► but if i needed that I'd probably buy [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► one of these all my arguing off forever [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► over so many episodes so many hours and [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► the thing that convinced you is going to [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► microsoft store using one and not even [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► drawing on it [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► there you go tigers on store I can't [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► just hand thing and you say you know [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► what I want to do I want to don't want [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► to use the pen as a mouse cursor in life [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► and application is not even optimized [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► for touch but hey whatever works for you [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► whatever works too i guess I just wasn't [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► convincing as it should have pictures it [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► think of this mark [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► imagine if using Lightroom a non-touch [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► optimized app and use the pen is a mouse [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► now would you buy one [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► yeah now i find that convincing know [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► honestly like really you know it's it's [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► very tactile until I actually did it and [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► and you [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► used it and tried and and especially [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► because i was using an app but i already [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► had to use i was already fast with i was [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► able to really see how much this kind of [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► interaction can help because I wasn't [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► just trying to figure out a brand-new [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► after the first time I'm stumbling [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► around going off slow and do this is [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► because not only was actually you know [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► going through things that I do in this [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► app things already know how to do and [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► and workflows that I have i'll try this [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► then do this then do this way I could I [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► could get it get an idea of like is this [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► is actually more productive is this you [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► know is doing what the upside for the [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► downsides and honestly I had a hard time [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► finding downsides the daily downsize [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► windows so you're gonna make your all [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► your audio editor application for [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► Windows now the surface to do because [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► imagine how awesome that would be as I [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► said many times your audio editing [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► application on the big giant touchscreen [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► i have actually thought about like it i [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► saw i don't know work on your idea [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► better so far guy i have a conference in [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► my head yeah but I've done no actual [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► coding so the options totally open of [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► where i would actually do this if I ever [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► choose to do it and my main debate point [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► in my head was like should i do this on [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► the ipad or on the mac and I've been [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► leaning towards Mac but I i gotta say [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► the the appeal of doing this kind of [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► thing with multi-touch it is something [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► and maybe the touch bar on the Mac would [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► be enough [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► I don't know but but i do think it is [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► worth four for all of us in in the mac [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► commenters fear who I apologize [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo written off the [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► idea of touch screens on the desktop [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► like you know it's easy to just kinda [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► like repeat the kind of kind of the [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► company line where the party line of [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► like no you that's a bad idea you [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► shouldn't like we don't need that the [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► desktop system does have nobody to touch [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► screen pc i think that is that is a bad [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► assumption it is possible to do this [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► well and Microsoft already almost has if [TS]