The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► we should start tonight will by closing [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► the loop [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► I can't believe I just said that out [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► loud I hate myself so hard we try that [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► come out of the parking lot the same [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► thing is gonna go on the show [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► oh yeah this is gonna go on the show and [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► I hate myself so hard [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► ok so we should start tonight by putting [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► a period at the end of the sentence and [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► that sentence being john what happened [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► with your energy star sticker I was [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► encouraged by lots of stories and [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► pictures posted by people on the [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► internet saying i have removed my energy [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► star stare from LG monitor and it went [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► ok didn't I tell you that during the [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► episode [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► yeah lots of people lots of people let [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► me stick uh you know images of them [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► doing it [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► mm it's all the other people tell you [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► that you believe them you don't believe [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► me your co-host your good friend but you [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► believe the randos on the internal I [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► need like a certain you know it helps to [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► have more people say it and some people [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► are 14 person was like but I'm glad I [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► don't have an energy star sticker on my [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► monitor and they looked and found it so [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► is this can you now we're on the topic [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► can you please explain the phrase trust [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► but verify [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► to me that's cold war the reagan-era [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► thing of like the trying to make it [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► sound like he is cooperating with the [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► USSR in disarmament talks but by the [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► same token he is also still a strong [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► cowboy who will bang bang us a [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► cheeseburger cheeseburger [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► so it's trust the fuck so how is that [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► different from just not trusting people [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► and just verifying everything anyway I [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► told you how it's different it's [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► different because it sounds like you're [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► being trusting cooperative but at the [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► same time you speak out of the other [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► side of your mouth and say but I'm still [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► a manly man who can beat up people so [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► its trust but don't trust [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► okay so it's not really trusting like [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► your dishes are virtually spotless means [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► your dishes have spots on them right so [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► I I've heard this phrase i never i [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► didn't know that was the origin / thank [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► you for the history lesson I honestly [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► don't know that that makes sense that [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► would like a political doublespeak thing [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► but I hear people use the phrase as a [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► seeming as seemingly non-sarcastic [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► directive so they just using it wrong [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► hear you but what is the context of how [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► does this connect energy star sticker [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► it's almost like security well because [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► you didn't trust Casey telling you that [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► to like get verification from everybody [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► else no no I was just like I mean that's [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► just one data point just helps to have [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► more data points [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► oh god as if i needed to trust Casey but [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► verify [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► like I needed more people because his [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► monitors on the same as mine his [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► stickers on the same with mine you know [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► there are many different possibilities [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► here and maybe he's not as picky about [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► sticky stuff so trust but verify really [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► just means don't trust anybody and [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► verify everything to either that or just [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► don't trust me that's what really got me [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► if its doctrines case again and I don't [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► even know if the Reagan USSR thing is [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► the origin of it but that's that's what [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► I know it from so anyway I emboldened by [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► the internet and your good friend Casey [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► list your part of the internet I i [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► remove the sticker and everything went [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► fine and there's no residue and thumbs [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► up so don't trust your friend Casey but [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► trust random strangers on Twitter right [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► that's what I'm hearing [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► Casey had waited if casey had waited [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► until seven other people sent me [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► pictures and then had said he would have [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► been you know but not the straw that [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► broke the camel's back whatever the good [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► version of the disk this is not getting [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► any better John this is just getting [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► worse [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► oh god alright so let's just move on [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► while we still can [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► I went to the apple store today we're [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► still friends right [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► I was the Apple Store today first and [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► most importantly it infuriates me [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► the fact that there is no obvious place [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► to line up or q in order to pay for [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► something I know we've spoken about this [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► in the past maybe it's an East Coast [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► thing maybe this is then maybe on the [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► problem here but it drives me but no not [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► the problem the Stars the problem I [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► drives me bananas that I I can't just go [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► somewhere in being an obvious line to [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► pay for things [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► why is that not a tracking introduced [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► its button and then we recovered before [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► I was like well you know that may bother [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► you but for other people's marking me [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► but I think the key issue here is that [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► one that all five year olds have which [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► is the tiny child version of conception [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► of fairness which is like if I come in [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► the store before somebody or if i decide [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► to I'm ready to checkout and I make that [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► decision before somebody else i should [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► be served to you or somebody else and [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► the way that usually solved his byline [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► and yes there can be multiple lines and [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► you feel like you picked the wrong line [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► as all those little silly things to make [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► you know that make you notice when you [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► feel like you're getting cheated again [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► more five-year-old versions of fairness [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► but it's a big giant crowd and you come [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► to a decision [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► I know what I want to get its this now i [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► need to give someone money for it I and [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► then you are just wandering aimlessly [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► with the feeling that people who made [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► the decision after you are getting [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► served before you because they happen to [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► be closer to someone who's ready to [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► serve them know and then there's the [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► application that makes you feel like [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► you're stealing where you can check [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► yourself out and just overall we want to [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► go back to the system that we know and [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► love which is a line [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► yep because i know i'll get a thousand [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► tweets and emails i didn't use the apple [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► store app because i was buying a gift [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► certificate or gift card or whatever [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► it's called where I was doing an [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► arbitrary sum of money on that gift card [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► which maybe there's a way to do it [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► through the apple store app but I didn't [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► want to leave any doubt that it would [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► work so i wanted to wait for human being [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► to help me and so anyway so it i just [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► loiter do in in the worst party is so [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► there was a a an employee working with a [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► a customer who was getting like from the [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► looks of it possibly a new phone [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► possibly a new watch certainly a new [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► watch band and so this is like a fairly [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► intense process and I'm I'm in that like [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► uncomfortable space where I I want to [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► make it clear that i'm kind of forming [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► my own line because I believe in order [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► because i'm from the east coast and i [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► want i want to make it obvious i'm [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► waiting for this person that this [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► employees help yet at the same time [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► there's that like ATM buffer zone where [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► you don't want to get too close to the [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► customers business because that's not [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► really appropriate and so I'm just kind [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► of standing around in the middle of the [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► store looking lost because basically [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► that's what I am [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► inside get my wallet out he didn't want [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► to be tied to that person to love is [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► you're also on the lookout for anybody [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► else who might be able to help you [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► sooner and again this is a problem that [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► we've solved with the magic of lions is [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► called the Express line if you're behind [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► someone who's you know doing all their [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► thanksgiving shopping and you know in a [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► way you just want to buy two things you [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► can in theory go to the Express line you [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► know what I told encourages the app that [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► makes you feel like you're stealing but [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► anyway lines right lines do have their [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► drawbacks but you were in a situation [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► where you're like I'm gonna claim my [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► spot by this guy just gets no one else [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► is available but Ross exactly that [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► someone else just finished checking [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► someone out giving their ipod socks or [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► whatever and they're ready to serve [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► someone immediately and then that soma [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► wander over to them and you like but I [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► was ready five minutes ago but i'm not [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► over there but I was waiting by this [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► guy's like lines lines people yup [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► if this fixes everything in so that's [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► exactly what happened so my eyes are [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► darting so fast i must have looked like [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► i was learning something from from [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► you're getting a download from the [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► matrix or something like that cause my [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► eyes are darting all over the place [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► maybe they already know that they're not [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► ready to castrate know that guys ready [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► that woman is ready know that woman is [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► already it was insane and so anyway so I [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► did the like social cue of I got my [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► wallet out and not only did I get my [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► wallet in my hand so I have merchandise [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► in one hand of Walden the other hand I [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► actually removed my credit card from my [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► wallet in part because I will always [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► slightly beyond New Yorker and I want to [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► take up as little time as possible in [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► part because i just want to give the [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► social cue of I'm ready to pay for this [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► please [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► anyway I bring all this up to say I [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► tried to touch bar was and I was on an [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► Apple store i was in there and I I when [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► I was in there I'd for i forgot that the [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► touch bar max would actually be there [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► until I noticed one like oh yeah I [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► should try that so i did as well I also [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► did it go today or just recently for the [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► last few days i bought one of course you [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► did you want the I'm a worse i can't i'm [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► just the worst [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► I let the record show I stop myself from [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► finishing that sentence anyway so i [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► tried to touch bar I only tried it for [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► about two or three minutes initial [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► impressions i liked it i I don't like [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► the presentation in the apple store and [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► the reason I say that is I feel like in [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► and maybe it's my height I don't feel [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► like I'm a remarkably tall person I'm [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► roughly six feet give or take an inch or [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► two maybe 5 11 and I don't know what [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► that is meters because I'm American in [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► and i think that the the apples the [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► apple stores tables are a bit too low [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► and so the angle in which im looking at [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► the touch bar is I think a bit too much [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► so in other words i think generally [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► speaking my head would be lower as [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► compared to the the laptop if i was [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► working and say a desk or something and [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► so it looked like I can't describe it [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► but it looked as though i was at the [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► wrong viewing angle for the touch bar [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► that being said I really liked it i [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► think i can totally understand why [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► someone would say oh it's a gimmick [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► because it very well may be but I [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► thought it was clever [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► I thought it was well done there's [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► things that I don't love about it [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► for example I i want to say was maybe [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► Jason's now I might have that wrong but [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► somebody was saying on one of the [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► podcast i was listening to lately that [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► in safari there are previews of your [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► different tabs that are open and that [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► seems kind of silly to me I think titles [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► would have perhaps been better [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► maybe not I don't know i-i've i only use [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► different couple minutes the Escape key [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► i didn't have a problem mashing it by [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► habit but it was disconcerting that I [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► didn't feel a button press when I did it [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► in a couple of times I caught the tilled [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► a key which is an American keyboard [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► directly below escape [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► I caught that key instead of escape [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► which was frustrating and I i also spent [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► a little time typing on the keyboard and [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► in case for some reason you want to wear [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► because i don't know how much I've [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► talked about on the show but I've talked [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► about it on like Twitter and in my [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► website incessantly i freaking love the [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► magic keyboard the external keyboard [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► that that Apple's currently selling for [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► say I'm accent and whatnot i love that [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► keyboard him to me it is my favorite [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► keyboard ever ever ever [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► bar none and the keyboard on the macbook [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► pro to me and i'm curious to hear both [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► year-old both your thoughts here in a [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► moment to me the macbook pro keyboard [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► was 80 ish percent of the way there but [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► I felt like the key travel wasn't enough [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► and that was very frustrating i think i [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► could get past it [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► but I really really wanted just a little [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► bit more key travel and I think it would [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► have made a world of difference to me [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► so let's start with John since Marco you [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► own one john what did you think I [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► presume you at least typed on it for a [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► few minutes what did you think of the [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► key travel and also the touch bar didn't [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► feel that different to me than the [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► regular macbook one thing I did notice [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► the I didn't notice the noise [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► surprisingly maybe it's because I've [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► read all the stories about and I was [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► primed for it but i think i noticed any [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► way that it was noisy and it did feel [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► like stiffer and click here but not so [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► much I do i do think I liked it better [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► than the macbook one keyboard i hate [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► laptop keyboards in general so it's hard [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► for me to say like you know I think I [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► said this about the macaron I just I [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► just don't like typing on them ever like [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► in the best case I just because the keys [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► are you know it's always a little shape [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► it doesn't have the keys that i wanted i [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► just i don't like the controls not in [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► the corner yes I know if your app to [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► control capslock whatever anyway I don't [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► like them as far as this one goes I'm [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► glad it's an improvement over the [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► macbook 1 i'm going to eventually have [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► one of these for work but I quite [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► honestly doubt i will ever type on it it [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► work like I guess maybe at home in a [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► meeting or something briefly but like i [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► don't i don't use laptop don't find [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► myself using laptops maybe that will [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► change once I have this one for work and [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► I'm bringing home and maybe I'll just [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► find myself using it will see but for [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► now I don't same thing with touch bar [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► seemed fine kind of interesting what [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► keyboard do you currently use at work or [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► what do you expect to be using it work [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► Apple extended aluminum that's what i've [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► been using for many years now and I and [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► I was Apple extended to for many many [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► years ago I had to give that up for RSI [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► reasons because the keys require more [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► force depressed and I find keys that [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► require less force the press are easier [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► on my hands and that's why i like the [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► apple-woman extended because the keys [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► are seem very easy to hit that was there [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► was one of the things about the both the [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► macbook one and this one like the low [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► travel maybe I'm pressing harder than I [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► need to but it feels almost like being [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► your hands against just like the desk [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► that doesn't move right like that it [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► feels like there's more the form or the [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► foursome putting in is bouncing back at [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► me or maybe it's bouncing back quicker I [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► don't know [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► we're at the time on her for a long [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► period of time to see if this is [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► actually a thing [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► yeah and then so the touch bar [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► all right i mean it's basically what i [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► thought it would be it was cute it looks [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► nice i think the Escape key activation [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► is reasonable i would still prefer [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► regular key but I i think i would i [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► would be excited to have a laptop with [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► the sonic vs one without like it is a [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► net plus to me in my mind having you [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► again have been using it for five [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► minutes like whatever the negatives are [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► in there i think the positives [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► overwhelming so I think this is a good [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► addition to apples laptop line [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► Marco so regarding the keyboard it [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► doesn't feel that different from the [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► macbook one keyboard honestly I if you [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► get a chance [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► did either of you actually try to set [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► aside the stores a lot of historical [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► having like literally like there will be [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► like an escape mathematical ones I did [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► yep I did run right from one to the [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► other and like you could I could tell [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► you the difference i could probably tell [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► the difference with my ears plugged but [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► definitely players open i could tell [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► that they felt different but they both [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► felt like that little keyboard doesn't [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► move too much as a little cup keys they [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► both felt like that exactly like i would [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► say the macbook one keyboard kind of [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► feels like what you'd expect the new [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► macbook pro keyboard to feel like after [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► five years of heavy use it almost feels [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► like it's worn out he felt like it kind [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► of lacks that kind of kickback the way [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► the way to make the new macbook pro does [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► because like I think the way Apple [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► described it actually is as pretty as a [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► pretty good accurate description which [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► is like you know it's the same key [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► travel but it has more feedback like it [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► feels better but it's still very very [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► shallow keyboard i still don't like it [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► but after a few days that so far and I [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► traveled with it and I you know I did a [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► lot of coding on the plane and [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► everything I took a lot of notes about [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► the computer on the computer lots of [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► typing it's fine [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► I i think this is one of many areas [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► where Jason L is right it's fine i can [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► use it but I don't like it it's better [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► enough in the macbook one keyboard that [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► I would not not get this computer just [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► for that if that makes sense i think [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► there's a big one of the biggest [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► improvements over the macbook one [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► keyboard not so much like how it feels [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► and touchy-feely stuff but [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► just practically speaking again for the [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► real time i was typing my problem with [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► the macbook one keyboard was often [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► because there's so little travel and [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► because the keys are sunken in [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► it wasn't always easy to be sure that i [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► have successfully activated a key right [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► because sometimes you go to hit it and [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► you can't tell you hit because your [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► fingers up and down but it goes up and [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► down like two little and the new one has [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► such a much more positive like you have [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► press this key and you'll know it [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► because cut clack right whereas if you [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► go forward and don't quite hit because [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► you didn't apply enough force you won't [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► get the clock and so I felt them a new [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► one maybe it's a psychological that I [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► could tell when I had a key and I could [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► tell when I didn't successfully hid a [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► key in a way that was harder for me to [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► tell the macbook one keyboard [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah i agree with that it is [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► totally fine i will also point out that [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► while we're on the subject of the noise [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► the macbook pro keyboard is not only [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► loud like noticeably loud like even if [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► noticed even like in the same really wow [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► that is loud but I i also think that the [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► sound it makes is particularly [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► ungraceful it it almost sounds like [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► you're tapping your fingers on plastic [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► tub [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► it's like it's really a like I would do [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► an average you know i'm i'm not going to [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► convey it but it's like even a good [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► already did it [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► it really does not sound good sounds of [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► it sounds very cheap and doesn't sound [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► like something is working the way it [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► should be working [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► I don't think it sounds cheap i think it [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► sounds sharp like I think it sounds like [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► a precision piece of machinery like but [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► I I I don't think it's that doesn't [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► sound or feel cheap in fact that's one [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► of things a lot of people said about and [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► I agree that this keyboard feels solid [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► like it doesn't the key caps don't [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► wiggle around like they do on the one in [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► my Apple extended aluminum and other [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► ones like feels very solid and when you [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► type it's like it's like a sharp little [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► punch right little metal punch which is [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► not a pleasant sound if you're in the [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► room but i think it doesn't feel cheap [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► now it doesn't feel to it sounds cheap [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► it feels like a mediocre keyboard and I [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► mean people get used to like that the [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► problem anything for the volume is like [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► no matter what sound it makes if it's if [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► it's more sound than your other one was [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► that's a problem because people kind of [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► develop their habits around i remember [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► when i was on the Apple extended to like [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► I would be typing you know two rooms [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► away and will be like you you know [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► like we're trying to sleep for like you [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► can't do that I can't sleep it's wherein [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► I negative square foot apartment [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► you can't be typing right now because [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► it's just too much like it's super loud [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► and so in this situation if you sitting [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► there on the couch and typing was on [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► watch TV and this one crank up the [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► volume just a little bit like I can't [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► watch TV while you're doing that just [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► stop typing [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► well it's also it's much louder the way [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► this time resident on my desk if it's in [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► your lap it is still weird the lab but [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► it is less so on a desk become [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► substantially louder I could definitely [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► see like if you share an office with [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► people and you have a laptop on the desk [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► and typing all day it's going to be very [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► noticeable so you better hope that you [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► upgrade everyone in the office at the [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► same time these things that way nobody [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► can blame you know just you respond to [TS]

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00:18:37 ◼   ► course you want to monitor all of them [TS]

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00:19:11 ◼   ► personally I use them for something [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► ridiculous like eight years using back [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► in Tumblr's everything since then I've [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► used them because they're just fantastic [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► long before they were a sponsor and i [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► keep using them for all my stuff because [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► i want to know when my stuff goes down I [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► don't want to be hearing from people on [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► Twitter that it's down I want to know [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► before they do so i can fix it before [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► two people see it so if you want that [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► kind [TS]

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00:19:42 ◼   ► ah now Marco last i heard if i recall [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► correctly you had ordered and then [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► cancelled one but it appears you have [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► now bought a new macbook pro so are you [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► no longer a professional or you just [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► slumming it [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► well I had I had ordered the macbook [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► escape and then cancel it because i [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► wasn't that comfortable with how much is [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► about to pay for it for the benefit was [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► going to get my kind of got like 15 [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► entry garlic what if i end up on any [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► more more power or more screen space [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► because it makes sense [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► in summary not to go over this too much [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► again but in summary basically i use [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► them i use my mac for most of my stuff I [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► don't travel very often when I do travel [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► my needs are either almost nothing like [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► if it's not like a working triple my [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► needs are either almost nothing in which [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► case I just need to make like just in [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► case her goes down and I want like a [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► second and fixing stuff or I might like [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► to like light email Twitter work you [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► know or it's a trip right where I intend [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► to get work done or edit photos in which [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► case i want the biggest most powerful [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► screen I can get you know it's just like [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► it not like even a 15-inch like you feel [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► like I'm craftiness I want the biggest [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► most powerful think i can and so my idea [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► was well I'll just like you know leave [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► those needs aside and get the cheapo [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► 13-inch one which is not that cheap [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► especially went once you add any options [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► to it and i decided to chicken out and [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► instead the local business rep give me a [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► good deal on the 15 inch so I got the [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► 15-inch and I got the the high-end [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► in-store configuration so the 2.7 [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► gigahertz in the 512 and then the radeon [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► whatever 455 the reason I went with this [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► first of all I was about to go on a kind [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► of spur-of-the-moment trip and I wanted [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► to test it out and I wanted to get some [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► work done so I figured this would be a [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► good time to test it and if I really [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► hated like a return it but but I figured [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► this would be good to test to talk about [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► because really the the 15-inch macbook [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► pro is the workhorse of so many [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► industries especially software [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► developers and especially with people [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► who listen to the show [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► I i would exactly like it is it is such [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► the workhorse like it you like if you [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► look around at WTC almost every computer [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► you see is a 15-inch macbook pro yet [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► like it is so this token if you look [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► around like the office of any tech [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► company look around what computers will [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► actually using a huge portion of them [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► are 15-inch macbook pros it's it is just [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► an incredibly popular laptop among [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► people who do the things I do and people [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► listen to the show and read my site that [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► I figured it would be useful for my [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► personal brand to be able to talk about [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► this computer intelligently and mike and [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► i kind of wanted one just to see for [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► myself to test the touch bar and just [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► get some idea of where the mac is going [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► also [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► it was very painful for me to continue [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► my old one because I i was constantly [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► running out of disk space [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► I i made the mistake of getting the base [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► model before the base model 15-inch in [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► general the base model 15-inch is the [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► best deal in all of Apple computers by [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► far it is the best deal it is like for [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► what you get for the price it does not [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► cheap but for what you get you get an [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► amazing computer for that price and if [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► you you know the price of the other 15 [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► inch base model if you end up speaking [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► up a 13-inch to be comparable it [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► actually is almost the same price [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► like if you if you spec if you're [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► comfortable and ram and performance it [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► is really about the same price for the [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► so like if you have relatively moderate [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► to high needs and you can afford the [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► price of the 15 inch line i strongly [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► suggest you go for the 15 inch line [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► because it is just that good anyway so I [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► went for it and yeah I've been trying [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► for a few days now and a little little [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► little under a week now and I travel [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► with it i worked with it and it's pretty [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► good it's not perfect but it's pretty [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► good and I would say it's aight i'm [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► actually consider maybe doing a YouTube [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► video about it I don't know I it's hard [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► to make videos so i might not but I it [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► sits too long to go over all my [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► impressions here but ok it's funny it's [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► two-on-two overall my impressions are to [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► our podcast I'm going to try to make a [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► five-minute youtube video [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► naturally ok so couple quick hits maybe [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► just the first one or two things that [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► jump to mind what do you really like [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► about it or perhaps what do you like [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► about it that you didn't expect to like [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► about it [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► they seem to have made substantial [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► progress in making a quieter under [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► moderate load this this is something [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► that I haven't seen any reviews talk [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► about but the the fan noise that both [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► the the actual noise the fans make and [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► and how loud the volume is it is [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► substantially quieter and less [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► noticeable the noise even if you're [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► matching out all the cpu cores for a few [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► minutes now after you know after a few [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► minutes if you're still up for doing [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► something like a hand breaker video and [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► code where your maximum out for a long [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► time then you will notice it they will [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► spend up to a normal level then but it [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► seems like what [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► whatever thresholds they've made with [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► the new thermal system the new fans [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► whatever you know however they've [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► designed this the you don't hear the fan [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► if it's just being stressed for a minute [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► or two and and things like if one core [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► is being maxed out by some rogue process [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► that's that's not working right [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► all photos library for instance or [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► Dropbox or iCloud his security iCloud [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► keychain all these different things [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► where you'll find like one process hot [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► enough one of your cores I hundred [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► percent in the old model that would [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► usually cause the fan has been up [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► audibly I in this one it doesn't like it [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► if only one course being saturated you [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► generally don't hear it if all they're [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► being saturated you only hear after a [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► few minutes so overall like it's [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► surprisingly quite even quieter if you [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► can keep it only using the integrated [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► GPU which you can't force it to like [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► like the like Cody Kriegers little [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► utility graphics card status it can't [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► force this computer to only use [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► integrated at least not yet but it can [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► tell you which one is using and which [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► act like if it switches over to the [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► discrete GPU it can tell you exactly [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► which a process is demanding that and [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► white students even if you can go quit [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that app for instance then then you can [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► eliminate the need for that and it can [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► also notify you with the associated [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► system notifications when the switches [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► take place if you want to [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► so anyway it's nice to get ideas like [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► what's going on and and wife anyway [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► huge improvement to the cooling system i [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► think it does still run very hot to the [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► touch when it's loaded heavily so it's [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► not like it's running at lower [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► temperatures but just whatever whatever [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► the cooling algorithms and designs are [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► maybe because and and there's a whole [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► new fan design that could have something [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► to do with it but they've they've really [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► made substantial progress there i'm very [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► happy to say that because i really hate [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► my pops get all lateral annoying with [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► the fan when he talked to me know when [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► you do anything two cpus ok what sucks [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► I sucks is a strong word but i would say [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► what's really disappointing is battery [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► life is really disappointing yeah I've [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► heard that from a few people and and I I [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► haven't liked pestered anyone who have [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► seen say this to ask you know is this [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► just day one you know just like you say [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► on a new iOS device or you know I when [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► you upgrade to iOS on an iOS device the [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► first couple days are gonna be rough as [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► it's churning through all the things [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► that needs to turn through so you said [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► you've had this machine for nearly a [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► week or about a week right so this is [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► interesting i've had it you have had it [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► for about a week [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► a little under a week there's a few a [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► few like system processes that will tend [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► to you know load a Mac that's that's [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► fairly new [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► obviously you know the old ones are as [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► old as time itself at least time machine [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► is MDS and various time machine or very [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► spotted indexers that finishes pretty [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► quickly like in the first day and so [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► that's that's pretty much done and i use [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► the wonderful utility istat menus to [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► monitor this kind of stuff so i can [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► always see like in you know in my menu [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► bar i have a little cpu core graph so i [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► can notice it maybe it's very apparent [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► when a computer it when a process is [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► using too much power you see it and then [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► you can you can go see what the process [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► is and you can you know killed if you [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► want to anyway [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► istat menus what kind of animal wouldn't [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► use myspace yeah anyway most most of the [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► host of this show you I step meetings so [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► the of what I've had problems with is [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► the Photos app where you know the in [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► Sierra and I assume it added that the [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► whole like you searched for objects in [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► photos kinda like Google photos does but [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► slightly worse that process its there's [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► no indicator on like what it's doing [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► when it's doing it there's no way to [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► tell it to pause [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► or to finish at a certain time or [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► whatever else like there's no control [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► over when it does that you will just see [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► things like photo library Dean photo [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► analysis d in your activity list and and [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► I i cannot get this laptop to finish the [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► so that there's only one place you can [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► see the progress of it and if you go to [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► photos tab in the app it will show you [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► like you know we scanned 9,000 of 25,000 [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► photos i cannot get that to progress [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► like it says that it'll do it you know [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► if you're when you're plugged into power [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► and you're not using the app so i don't [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► know whether that means whether the app [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► is quit or whether it's just running [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► hidden whether the computer has to be [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► idle or not I've experienced with all [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► the different things and I cannot get it [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► to advance very far but yet I still see [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► photo library or photo analysis d often [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► popping up in the activity list but it [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► tends to not do that on battery died i [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► watch for that like when i was doing [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► battery testing you know taking these [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► long flights i watch for that and I [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► don't think that was the problem so [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► basically I i don't think there was [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► anything in my usage when I was when I [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► was judging the battery it didn't seem [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► to be anything out of the ordinary that [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► was unfairly draining the cpu and [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► keeping a higher powered state that [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► would that would you know otherwise not [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► be there during regular use [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► so if you notice three the reviews for [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► the battery some of them say oh yeah [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► apple spot on 10 hours we we did our [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► like you know like web browsing loop in [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► its 10 hours okay [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► most of the ones that actually try [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► real-world use seem to all agree that [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► it's about five hours and it's and if [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► you if you drive it heavily it can be [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► even shorter than that that matches up [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► with my experience exactly that I am [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► consistently seeing that like if I'm [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► only doing like really casual web [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► browsing nothing else no slack no [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► Twitter no mail like know if I'm only [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► doing browsing and the Wi-Fi connection [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► is great and I'm not browsing any page [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► the turon the discrete GPUs some of them [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► do for some reason maybe its CSS [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► animations I don't know but if if you [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► can give it very very light using a web [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► browser you can get about 10 hours but [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► even if you're doing like dancing [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► between like Twitter slack and web like [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► my typical like light workload [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► even that it was down to about six hours [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► maybe maybe seven if i'm lucky if i'm [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► using Xcode to build an iOS app and and [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► do a good you build new buildings run [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► cycles with the simulator and changing [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► stuff and you know just typical iOS [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► development work in xcode nothing like [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► incredibly heavy not like constantly [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► cleaning rebuilding the whole thing like [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► just typical work in iOS and OS X [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► co-development five hours and and that's [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► that that's been pretty consistent for [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► me so far so that is not great and [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► that's that's with like you know [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► relatively modest brightness settings [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► the good thing is the screen brightness [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► level doesn't appear to have as big of [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► an effect it used to it really does seem [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► like whatever advantage that was made in [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► getting the screen to be very low-power [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► those who paid off the screen really is [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► seemingly pretty low power I don't know [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► the exact numbers on it but uh but it [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► seems like the battery life i'm getting [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► is not that related to the screen [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► brightness the way the way it used to be [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► but the problem is that you have these [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► computers where the the big advances in [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► skylake processors that that let them [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► make the battery smaller almost all came [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► at the bottom and as we've discussed [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► about like when the computer is doing [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► almost nothing when you're being very [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► gentle on it and the processor can be [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► mostly idle most of the time then now it [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► is using less power dented before but as [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► soon as that processors doing anything [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► as soon as you're giving it even a [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► moderate load the high end of the power [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► envelope there is the same as it's [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► always been so estranged give it even a [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► moderate load it's just going back to [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► how much power it used to use in the [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► previous generation of processors but [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► because the idle power dropped so much [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► apple considers that typical use and so [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► they were able to drop the battery side [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► the 25-percent so basically we have [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► computers that have twenty-five percent [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► smaller batteries and processors that [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► did get efficient enough to cook to [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► compensate for that when they're doing [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► very little but as soon as you make them [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► do anything really [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► now we just have a you know twenty-five [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► percent battery life that sucks but that [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► definitely is a pain i have to ask even [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► though I'm already regretting doing so [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► what dot was your dongle [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► I'm sorry adapter situation while you [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► are traveling and what did you buy what [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► need what did you miss it cetera first [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► of all on the plane [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► this was this might be my first long [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► plane flight with the iphone 7 and what [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► is it suck to not have a headphone jack [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► on the phone and to not be able to [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► charge the phone while using headphones [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► that really does suck like I know it's [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► been a while and we're talking about the [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► headphone jack anymore but why does that [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► suck in practice in my regular [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► day-to-day life i use bluetooth [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► headphones for walking around but my big [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► plan headphones are wired because there [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► are very few big plans phones that are [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► good at our Bluetooth anyway iphone 7 [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► big thumbs down for listening to me [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► complain anyway that aside the the [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► computer itself i-44 doing occasional [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► deployments to the iphone i used to use [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► the Apple official USBC to lightning [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► cable that was fine i brought I brought [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► my other dongles but it doesn't really [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► matter i didn't really need the money i [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► have i have the the one this last [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► weekend i have that i have a couple of [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► USB a to seize or CJ I have a [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► thunderbolt 322 which i only use for [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► this one audio interface and we didn't [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► need to strip it and bring it and I have [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► a card reader we shouldn't use it in [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► your camera but otherwise the dongle [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► situation is fine you know it really [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► does drive me nuts though is the lack of [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► cable management on the power brick that [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► like I brought up last week I said not [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► only a problem and it is a problem it's [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► really annoying to have this big thick [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► cable with no flip out arms no more [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► magsafe like the Apple power adapter the [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► previous one with magsafe and with the [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► cable management building and everything [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► that was really awesome design and we we [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► had that for a very long time and before [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► Maxie for those four hours we had for [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► even longer than that it would this have [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► been around for quite sometime like my [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► very first mac that my 2006 powerbook [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► had no idea doesn't for powerbook excuse [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► me had those lifts arms on the power [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► brick and and there is great a little [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► clip to hold the excess United at the [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► very end of the cable clip that you can [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► clip it on [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► yep yep yep all the finest technology [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► has been around like every vacuum [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► cleaner cable forever [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► anyway we don't have anything anymore [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► now it's just like an iphone cable it's [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► just bigger and it's thicker it's it's a [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► bit like you know I think it's like 85 [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► watt or something cable so it's like it [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► looks like the thickest lightning leave [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► ever seen and it's so it's kind of stiff [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► it's you know it's longer to be laptop [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► cable ish so then so it's it's long you [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► know it's it's not very flexible [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► there's no cable management whatsoever [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► so basically you have to carry a cable [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► tie with you all the time and keep doing [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► and undoing it or do some kind of crazy [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► wrapping scheme which I you know takes [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► more time it's just like it's just a [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► hassle and this and I have some hope [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► here that if Apple can start designing [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► things to be useful again they can fix [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► this just by making a new power adapter [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► or even a new power cable like this is [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► not the kind of thing like that [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► USBC design does not dictate the power [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► cable has to suck it can be any cable [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► they want to communicate after they [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► wanted they can still have magsafe [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► that's just like a little bit away from [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► the end of the computer or possibly the [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► plug in whatever like they can still do [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► all those things they didn't and that [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► kind of annoys me because it really does [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► make the product less community unless [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► nice to use and apple has been always [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► all about things that are nice things [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► they're delightful premium products and [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► the switch to the power cable here is [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► such a big step backwards it goes [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► against all of that so it sounds minor [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► but if you take if you're traveling [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► around moving on the laptop you know you [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► deal with the power cable all the time [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► and the battery life is not yet good [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► enough that you'll need to think about [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► so you still very much you need to be [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► concerned the power cable if you do [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► anything on your pro computer [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► besides very light web browsing you [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► still need to be plugged in often and so [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► to have the power cable bees be so [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► really crappy is unfortunate and so I [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► really hope Apple fixes this is some [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► point soon just updates the freakin [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► power cable and the power adapter to [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► just give us at that give us one with [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► cable management and mac safe that is [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► very very easy to do they could totally [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► do it [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► third parties can do that that is an [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► advantage here of the USBC ecosystem [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► third parties can do it and Griffin has [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► has a magsafe thing but the max water [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► John is only in the 60s somewhere so [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► that you can use on the 15 inch and [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► relying on third parties is [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► not a great solution to something like [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► this like Apple can make a power cable [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► they can make a really nice one [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► they have for a decade and more than [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► that actually hit for over a decade and [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► I just stopped for some reason and I [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► really i would go back and I hope they [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► do you can use the different charge as [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► fast [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► yeah but honestly I he was not sponsored [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► by Griffin i have not had great luck [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► with Griffin products in the past they [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► they make a lot of stuff that like only [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► they like they feel a lot of gaps in the [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► in the apple product lineup books and [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► that's that's part of the reason why i [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► bought so many things from the past [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► we're like a lot of times they are the [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► only maker of something that solves [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► problem XYZ and that's great i'm glad [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► they do but I've had very mixed luck [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► with their products so I try to avoid [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► even if i can and and so the idea of [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► relying on them for my my power cable [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► and I don't feel great about that it's [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► that it's kind of like little thing like [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► as good as as I complain last week about [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► like the loss of humanity and as John [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► clarified maybe as well as being whimsy [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► and the products the luxury product is [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► kind of a collection of small delights [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► and an apple has gotten rid of a lot of [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► those small delights in laptop line in [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► the last few generations like you used [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► to be able to push a little button on [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► the battery or the side after the [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► battery is not removable and little [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► green lights with light up telling you [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► how much the batteries charged [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► that's really nice you want to open up [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► the laptop it's been a bag for a while [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► you can you can you can just see how how [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► much you charge of opening it up MagSafe [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► connector is of course that's a huge one [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► having a little light on the plug so you [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► can see without opening it up or [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► anything you see is it charging is it [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► fully charged like it just little things [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► that of course you know the the lineup [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► apple on the back to startup chime with [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► a lot of things have been removed / time [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► and some of them with your you're [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► forgetting the one of my favorites that [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► i miss all the time the little pulsating [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► breathing light to let you know that the [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► machine was on exactly i love that god [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► that would be so cool like ancillary [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► they were there was this and a lot of [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► that I think is this has died with with [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► scott forstall but let me he's alive but [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► you basically did you call that living [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► yeah exactly wow yeah but like you know [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► they're like when we when we bought max [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► Casey and I at least John you bought [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► maximus donation case you know I bought [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► max for the first time it was still this [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► era of Liberty like where we we would be [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► able to go into a computer store back in [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► those still existed and another aspect [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► we going to like a like a circuit city [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► all these dead computer stores and and [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► you'll be able to go over the mac area [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► and you'll be able to play with the doc [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► and seal the cheesy like the Zoom [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► animations and the scaling and like the [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► minimizing like you'll be able to see [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► the cheesy crappy like whoa it's so cool [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► and when you actually bought your first [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► mac back then all those cool little [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► things just seemed amazing the pulsing [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► sleep like you know like all the cool [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► little you know lights and battery [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► things everything it was just cool it [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► was it made you feel nice about your [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► luxury product purchase and it made you [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► love this platform and so when things [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► like the niceties of the power cable [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► just get removed for seemingly very [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► little reason it really does kind of [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► erode that nice feeling and a feeling of [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► this being a premium product that you [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► love ya [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► you know I think it's been relatively [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► obvious that i haven't always agreed [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► with you on some of the things that [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► you've been grumbly about over the last [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► I don't know a couple of months about [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► your goggles and this that and the other [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► thing i could not possibly agree with [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► everything you just said more I think [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► and I think you nailed it on the head [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► with and I forget how you phrased it so [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► I apologize but but a luxury product [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► being a series of small delights I think [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► that's absolutely true and I think that [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► that you still into into large degree [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► still is but even more so used to be the [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► case with apple products and obviously i [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► don't have a new macbook pro yet but [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► eventually i will get one for work if [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► not for myself and not having those [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► little flip out [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► hooks or arms whatever you call them on [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► the brick in order to wrap up the cord [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► that's going to drive me batty not [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► having a pulsating light i still miss [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► that to this day I'm not having magsafe [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► that is saved my computer on numerous [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► occasions I mean how many [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► in a great game in aggregate and and by [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► the way about Mac save us bc holds on [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► tight like it's a really it's a really [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► secure connector which generally is good [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► yeah except you could especially now [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► with his life as being lighter you can [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► very easily kick off the table with that [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► later on the ifixit teardown though that [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► they were smart enough to make the board [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► that connects on the inside of the [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► computer a separate replaceable part so [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► when you inevitably knocking over [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► assuming it survives they can just [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► replace the part that plugs into it [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► won't like it won't kill your whole [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► motherboard least at least on one of [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► sorry logic board and apple parlance [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► least one of the models they did that [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► yeah but that's that's not a great [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► solution but that is that is both [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► incomplete and inferior to magazine but [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► no but anyway I just wanted to say that [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► I completely agree with you and I think [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► this this isn't a this isn't absolutely [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► whimsy or humanity but it's it's [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► tangentially related i think it's in [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► this kind of same universe in that it's [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► these little things in the same way that [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► that in my personal estimation windows [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► is death by a thousand paper cuts apple [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► products doesn't think again for the [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► most part still are but especially just [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► a few years ago tended to be whatever [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► the opposite of that is I don't know [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► what the opposite of death death by a [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► thousand paper cuts is but the opposite [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► of that is what Apple products were in [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► to some degree still our life by a [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► thousand hugs the other yeah but I [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► couldn't agree with you more mark a [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► little stuff like that is just it's [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► frustrating and I do think you know as [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► we've talked about the past like this [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► dongle situation it sounds like for you [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► it wasn't that bad for this particular [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► trip and I do think in the future will [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► get a lot better but there's nothing [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► that there's no obvious answer for not [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► having a little the cable management [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► arms on the power supply i guess you [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► could get a third-party power supply i [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► guess those might exist some point but [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► there's no obvious answer for that [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► there's no way you're going to get the [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► little pulsing sleep light on and on a [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► macbook pro which is not going to happen [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► and all this little stuff it just adds [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► up and his is kind of frustrating [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► overtime and like some of it [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► things like the glowing LED on the [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► abundant like the glowing apple logo on [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► the back [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► apparently that was due to fitness [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► reason the new displays or something [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► like that [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► things like that like to sleep in this [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► LED you could blame that on power or it [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► you know being too bright circles in [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► some people's rooms or whatever like but [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► certain things like the power brick [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► getting worse like there's kind of no [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► reason for that you know and thatthat's [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► kind of drive me nuts like the [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► unnecessary shaving off of all the [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► personality and delight and losing the [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► the extendo cable i forget the term for [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► it yeah I'm talking about that's $19 can [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► throw that income while you're getting [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► at the reasons like it's a like in the [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► car industry they call the decon tenting [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► and when it struck honda's I was very [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► upset that was many many years ago I [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► think we talked about it in neutral at [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► one point but when i bought my first [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► honda civic which was in 1992 the honda [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► civic is the low end model like the [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► lowest of the low end model didn't even [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► have a side mirror on the passenger side [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► like the cheapest model you get and yet [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► when you open the very very tiny trunk [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► on the back of that car there were no [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► struts that intrusion into the trunk [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► area had a series of struts so that when [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► you close that there weren't there [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► wasn't anything poking in you could put [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► a suitcase in there so we're just like [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► fill the entire opening and then close [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► the lid and you won't have to worry [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► about but now when i try to close at the [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► hinge will bang into you know the [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► gooseneck type enjoy bang into the thing [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► those are more expensive to make the [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► little struts they're more complicated [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► they're more prone to break they cost a [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► lot more than taking a bent piece of [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► metal and and bending into a gooseneck [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► shape and welding on and then Wendy [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► content being struck the Japanese car [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► industry I think the garlic because of [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► exchange rates or some other thing or [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► whatever and remember what it was but [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► anyway came to honda and all the sudden [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► Pacific God gooseneck struts and in fact [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► the cord that goes next dress and you [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► know what [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► to this day if you go by unicorn how [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► much money you pay for an accord [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► gooseneck on the trunk they never came [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► back like they never said okay well when [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► things that when things change we will [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► you no will will whatever the reverse of [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► d content thing is they made the parts [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► cheaper and probably like you know [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► simpler to build a more reliable and so [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► they don't have to worry about it but [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► it's worse in terms of packing things [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► into the bacteria carpets now you have [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► to worry about where the hinges land [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► yeah i would say like in general i have [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► i have thought about the the concept of [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► d contacting for for a while with apple [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► products and it really does seem that [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► way with with some of the more recent [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► releases and it's sad because so many of [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► those [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► things are delightful and they may add [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► on they add up to this this perception [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► of this being a premium nice product [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► that makes you happy and everyone of [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► these removals you know just like it's [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► just eroding that feeling and it's these [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► are still nice computers but they they [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► were nicer in many ways in the past and [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► it's you know in general like you know [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► it's it's hard to really complain too [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► much [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► although we always find a way but it's [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► party haha it's hard to complain too [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► much because overall I would say this is [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► a better computer for in in many ways [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► than the one it replaced but like it is [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► not as good as it could be and in areas [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► that there's no excuse for that you know [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► certain areas you can see all right well [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► it maxes out at third at 16 gigs ram for [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► these reasons with low power ram intel [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► imitations etc you know you can say like [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► oh well it couldn't have a better [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► keyboard because then it would have to [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► be thicker by the way as for the way [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► this computer feels with it being so [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► much thinner and lighter feeling small [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► improvement not a substantial [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► improvement like i'll take it you know [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► i'll take it being lighter i guess i [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► mean i would prefer great battery life [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► but you know if if this is what what is [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► available now [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► ok you know i'll accept the the weight [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► reduction but going from the retina [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► macbook pro the 2012 design 2 2016 [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► design does not feel that different it [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► were severely diminishing returns here [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► it really does not feel like a massive [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► weight savings and weight or size or [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► thickness at no point you know haven't [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► used the 2012 15 inch design since 2012 [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► at no point during these four years did [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► I ever think you know this is too thick [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► you know like everybody could use a [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► laptop being lighter because when you [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► carry it [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► it's nice ones lighter everyone can use [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► a smaller footprint for the same screen [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► size to have less overhead because all [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► that makes it easier to use on planes [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► and tight areas and stuff that's great [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► but the thickness of these laptops [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► especially in the 15 inch line is so [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► irrelevant and and they're already they [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► were already so thin 2012 to make them [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► lighter is very welcome but they really [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► didn't need to get thinner and they [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► really didn't get thinner enough in ways [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► that are actually noticeable in real [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► world use so to do things like make a [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► really controversial weird new keyboard [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► in the name of only fitness and not like [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► this because keyboards are mostly empty [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► space to be able to to force yourself [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► into that kind of design trade-off seems [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► unnecessary when it was already so thin [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► to begin with you know so lightness [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► great it is noticeably lighter it's not [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► it's not massive later it isn't like [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► like when you first like the first time [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► you picked a macbook air and you were [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► used to everything that wasn't a macbook [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► air before that yeah that was an amazing [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► difference because that was that was [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► like I think it was something like going [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► from like 4.5 to 5.5 pounds 23 point out [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► it was a huge difference and also the [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► taper was totally totally made a [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► difference [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► sure but like you know going from 4.5 [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► 24.8 pounds is a much smaller difference [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► you forgot about the the biggest [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► difference though with this model that I [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► can't believe you didn't notice [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► well maybe you don't notice because you [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► didn't get it we didn't and we never [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► asked you what color I did get space [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► grey knights and isn't that a big [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► difference that to me that was the [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► biggest difference other than the touch [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► bar i guess maybe actually tied for the [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► touch part what's the biggest difference [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► in this model this one comes in grey and [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► it's a little bit of a weird grey it [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► totally looks different than the old one [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► what do you like it and yeah and [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► honestly I I was not a huge fan of [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► spacecraft the macbook one it just [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► didn't seem quite right to me when I [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► seen it it doesn't look bad but i just [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► think like spacecraft map want it just [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► seems like you know that's not really [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► the best color I i would say the epic [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► one is best in probably gold and pink [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► and I don't love those colors myself but [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► I just it just looks kind of odd in [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► space gray on the 15-inch I'd say space [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► gray looks awesome [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► I don't know why i think it's i think [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► the same but it for whatever reason [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► looks really good to me i'm very happy [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► with it so you know cool [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► I'm that's that's good news I I do like [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► it I do worry a little bit i know our [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► friend Stephen Hackett [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► by the way did you see his amazing video [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► with the Apple book and the real [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► products oh my god will put it but that [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► the show notes I it's so good i was [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► upset about the part where he shows [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► three-hundred-dollar book that all right [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► fine I I see what you're going for but [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► really come on through and all but not [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► just to check it against the wall [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► you would anyway you so yeah that's the [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► video is amazing [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► anyway space gray is good but if it gets [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► scratched or dented at all it shows the [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► the silver color through as as he [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► learned on his landscape oh now really [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► yeah so that I I don't know how deep [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► scratches necessary to make that happen [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► but it happened to Stephen already with [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► his macbook escape so that's so that's [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► that could be better i was gonna change [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► my work order to be great now that i [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► heard that no I can't have that [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► oh my god John yeah so anyway though it [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► overall I would say it's it's a good [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► computer as for the touch bar didn't [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► even talk about it [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► the the touch bar i guess i'm going to [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► have more in the future to have more [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► experience with it and so far it seems [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► fine it seems kind of like a sideways [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► step that they're you know again there's [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► some plus is there some minuses we'll [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► see over time how it develops the Escape [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► key is really annoying to be up there so [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► i started developing a habit of i [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► switched I remapped escape two caps lock [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► I just been hitting anything that I'm [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► both my imac and my laptop so I just [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► been training myself to hit caps lock [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► instead of escape and the best way to [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► deal with the escapees to stop using it [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► because the the new escape zone is fine [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► but not great that the main problem is [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► it wouldn't when you're talking about a [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► key not an area on touchscreen but a key [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► you know exactly when you've hit you can [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► rest your hand on it before you ready to [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► hit it and then you can push down and [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► you know you hit and you can't do that [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► are on on the escape zone you you can't [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► rest your finger on it beforehand and [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► use trigger it I do that a lot the first [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► couple the first day or two I had hit [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► and and you can't you can't know when [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► you've hit or not how many times you hit [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► very reliably as so it i don't love that [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► so my solution there was to simply remap [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► to it to caps lock which is easily done [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► with system preferences the trackpad is [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► being that huge I do love having the big [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► track pad area and when I went back to [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► test to use my old macbook pro one of [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► the things that made it feel impossibly [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► old was having this tiny little track [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► pad which of course is like when it came [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► out it was huge like having this old [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► this tiny track that now i still hate [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► the force touch trackpad [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► i hate the way it clicks I hate how [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► weirdly the pressure is not quite right [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► I hate how it's not a hundred percent [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► reliable so instead I've been slow [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► transitioning to a tap to click wizard [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► if you're gonna have my my taps be only [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► mostly reliable and not a hundred [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► percent reliable I'd rather do it that [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► way instead of having to feel stupid [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► weird click and push harder to get it [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► so basically my my solution to the [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► downsides of the touch part of that text [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► bar the force extract that are to avoid [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► using them and and my end the upsides of [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► the of the trackpad being so big are [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► very welcome and the upside of the touch [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► bar being this new function old surface [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► of weird things is basically a big we [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► will see about that later from me so far [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► but so far it seems it could it might be [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► really cool one more closing thought [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► about this i think looking at the specs [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► and the pricing to me there's two [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► laptops worth getting in this lineup the [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► macbook escape and the 15-inch I the [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► 13-inch with with touch bar is so [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► expensive for what you get it also has I [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► think the worst battery life of the 3i [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► think if you have the need for a lower [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► end or smaller or lower performing [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► computer get an appt xscape it's so much [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► cheaper and it has better battery life [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► everything else if you want like a [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► strong workhorse computer that has a [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► little more power and order has the [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► touch bar get 15x because it is so much [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► better suspect per dollar than 13 so to [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► me those the two worth getting I I don't [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► love the 13-inch like I tried in the [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► store and you know i've ran a bunch of [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► numbers online of course I don't love [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► the 13th touch bar i don't i don't think [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► that product makes a ton of sense for [TS]

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00:54:38 ◼   ► 3g kinda like like when old Kindles to [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► have 3g it was just built into the price [TS]

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00:55:52 ◼   ► ah John do you have a new phone i do [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► we're going to know iphone 7 it was the [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► one that i said i was going to get which [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► was jet black and I wanted to try using [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► it without a case and I did I just [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► didn't try it for very long [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► define not very long at less than 24 [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► hours the little birdie told me it was [TS]