The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► when do I lon remember that all you did [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► you a lot fewer you're like messed up [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► what you were saying it started over and [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► then it's it was adorable market will [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► find it [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► ok i'm not mad about it I just don't [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► recall having done it [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► remember it ok let's sell and lock it up [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► a little for the second consecutive week [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► i think i'm the only one follow-up which [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► is kind of freaking me out a little bit [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► well John and I are just perfect now we [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► know just no one can challenge than [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► anything no I was going to put the same [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► thing in but you beat me to it so I just [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► let you do don't think thanks thanks [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► anyway sorry to try on your follow-up [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► sir [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► so anyway so there is a podcast by a [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► German fellow whose name I don't have in [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► front of me because I make the worst [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► show notes in the world Chris Marquardt [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► was very nice to talk about us on his [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► photography podcast tips from the top [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► floor was episode 748 it was about [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► halfway through the episode give or take [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► some so we'll put an overcast and [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► concerns as well we're just gonna we're [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► just gonna glide right by episode 748 of [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► a podcast well I mean that's impressive [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► 748 that is the highest podcast episode [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► where I've ever seen in my life [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► no they go away higher than that so what [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► I mean obviously I don't listen to the [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► right kind of shows what kind of shows i [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► guess the Daily Show's go over or the [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► hundreds i don't want any daily podcast [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► sure I mean yeah obviously anything [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► Delhi last for more than a few years but [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► also like you'd be surprised how many [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► podcasts out there published more than [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► one episode a usually these are usually [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► these are things that are just dumped [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► off of radio broadcasts so you'll have [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► like to have like you know radio [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► broadcast of today our one hour to hour [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► three our four that's four different [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► episodes in the podcast [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► well I don't listen most kind of podcast [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► by right this is not that kind of [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► podcasts though I don't know that [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► anybody listen to those kind of podcast [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► but lots of people publish them [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► yeah that's weird so anyway so on 748 [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► episode 7 48 of Chris Marquardt's [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► podcast photography tips from the top [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► floor he discussed what we were [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► discussing about how to keep dust out of [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► your digital camera while you're [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► changing lenses and I thought that was [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► interesting discussion and the kind of [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► short short version is [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► really don't need to worry about it [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► because it's unlikely that you're going [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► to run into any sort of problem that [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► will cause a visual distortion on your [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► images and I'm oversimplifying for sure [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► you should definitely check out the [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► episode but there were three links that [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► that he pointed his listeners to [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► including me because I listened to it [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► and I think all three were lens i guess [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► all three were lens rentals.com blog [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► post now if you recall i think all three [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► of us certainly I have a that Ben [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► patrons of one's rentals they're not a [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► sponsor but we've all used them and [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► these three posts on their blog from as [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► far back as 2008 actually involve what [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► can happen to a lens and whether or not [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► that really affects the the image that [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► comes out of the camera and so they [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► talked about in the first one getting [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► lens dust on the screen and do some [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► really interesting Terrans dust Dustin [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► lens and do some really interesting [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► tasks to show that unless you get fairly [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► extreme and again i'm getting a little [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► hand waving over simplifying but unless [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► you get fairly extreme you're probably [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► not going to notice this distortion and [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► in fact they put little post-it note [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► slivers onto the lens to show that it [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► almost made no difference except very [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► extreme scenarios and that was just [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► mind-boggling to me that a little bit a [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► piece of post-it note that looked like [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► it was 23 millimeters square really in [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► in in basic setups didn't seem to matter [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► that blew my mind and when you when you [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► use really narrow aperture did seem to [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► matter but wide open especially made [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► almost no difference is that a fair [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► summary that first link all right i'll [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► take that as yes moving on this and then [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► the second link they had was about [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► scratches and whether or not scratches [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► on the lens make a difference and they [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► post they posted within their blog post [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► two pictures one is of a waste [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► management like dumpster [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► it is not on fire one is of a piece of [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► paper and these images I mean they're [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► not remarkable but there was no obvious [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► damage if you will to these images these [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► images look like they were taken with [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► regular lens and then you scroll down [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► and you see the lens they were taken [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► within it has like I don't know maybe 10 [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► cracks straight through the lens in you [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► know kind of like a wheel like spokes on [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► a wheel kind of shape it was crazy and [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► it is crazy to me that this lens that is [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► effectively shattered somehow ends up [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► producing images that are ok so those [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► were the two that i think were most [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► directly applicable to the sorts of [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► things that may be any one of us was [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► going to but the third one was the most [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► ridiculous which is it is entitled I [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► don't know why it swallowed a fly [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► weather-sealed lens with a fly inside a [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► spoiler alert this lens had a fly within [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► it is ridiculous that this fly got all [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► the way deep within this lens and they [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► in because this is their business they [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► had to take it apart and repair it and [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► they kind of go through how they did [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► that but it was incredible to me that [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► such a thing is even possible because i [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► assumed obviously ignorantly so i assume [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► that these things are like hermetically [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► sealed and all that but their point was [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► hey if this lens is a zoom lens where [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► things are moving something has to take [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► up the space that's just been vacated [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► and that thing is air so air is getting [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► in and out of these lenses whether you [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► like it or not and occasionally you can [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► find a pretty big gap where a small fly [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► can fly through so i just love these [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► were all really really interesting post [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► the the podcast Egyptian top floor [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► the episode was definitely really good [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► and worth listening to so definitely [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► check all this stuff out of here at all [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► interested in any of this and this is [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► also by the way one of the reasons why [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► the higher-end zoom lenses don't have [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► any externally moving elements most of [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► the time it's doesn't make a perfect [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► still stuff is still good especially [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► just being just like sucked in through [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► like you know seals and stuff but this [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► lens has one of those things really as [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► you zoom in the whole end of it gets a [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► lot longer as a whole kind of internal [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► barrel sticks out whereas the high-end [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► zoom lenses will typically retain their [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► exterior shape and dimensions at all the [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► different zoom lens like all the zoom is [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► basically happening [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► inside the lens and there's lots of [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► benefits that one of them is that is [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► less likely to suck in an entire fly [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► yeah it's just absolutely ridiculous to [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► me that any of this happened [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► yeah so the one thing about that was the [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► the main topic of conversation is the [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► idea of a door that goes down in front [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► of the sensor for when for when you're [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► changing lenses and so the most relevant [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► piece of information about that was the [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► idea that even when the lens on your [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► camera the dust can get inside and you [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► know the telescoping thing with the ones [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► that move externally with the with both [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► the internal and external ones that [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► probably did [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► depends on the design of the camera [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► because with a purely internal one there [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► doesn't need to be in a net air movement [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► inside and outside the lens because the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► same amount of errors in there as long [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► as there are some way for you to hair [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► that's already inside the completely [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► unchanging shape of cylindrical barrel [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► the thing like that will be fine for the [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► ones that do move [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► I don't know enough about zoom lens to [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► know if there is a glass element between [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► the part that moves and the rest of the [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► camera so yes your mind that way you [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► have a thing where the lens actually [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► gets longer and shorter then there's [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► some air exchange taking place there but [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► is that air exchange causing air to [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► enter into the sensor chamber and out of [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► it or is it just causing air to enter [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► the the the front part of the zoom lens [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► in and out but either way the point is [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► when the lenses on things can get in i'm [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► still in favor of the door though i'll [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► tell you why the one of the owners of [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► the point was that like the dust just [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► floats in the air doesn't go down into [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► your camera but that's I mean it's true [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► the dust is not going to make a diving [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► purple bombing run for your camera soon [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► as it sees the lenses on because this is [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► not Cynthia but the net movement of dust [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► is still down that movement of us wasn't [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► down to be dust all over our ceilings [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► and all of our furniture and the other [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► thing is that really the type of things [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► that can get onto your sensor at the [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► lancer lens stuff is different things [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► can get onto your sensor small things [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► can make a big difference in particular [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► things that were on my sensor the theory [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► that people had is that it was big [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► enough for me to see and it was it stuck [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► to the thing i must in pollen or [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► the the bigger that the trunk or the [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► piece of dust the harder it is for it to [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► get through any kind of ceiling in a [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► lens right especially for primaries [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► where nothing is moving and it's all [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► closed up with the meantime you are [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► vulnerable to dust is when not when [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► there's a tiny crack opening in [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► you know sometimes ceiling but when [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► there's a huge gaping opening and if [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► pawn is blowing around that's the time [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► the piece of palms into coming to get [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► stuck to your sensor so with the sensor [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► as i said on the show I didn't even have [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► faith that the sensor would actually [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► even seal off our door that we actually [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► can see all the sensor even if there was [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► a door because the door is not gonna [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► have a perfect seal either but I still [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► say it's better than completely open [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► gigantic opening to the air and I still [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► say it is better to not have your sensor [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► facing upward for any appreciable amount [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► of time because although dust does kind [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► of float in the air the heavier the [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► bigger than us the more likely it is to [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► go down and if you leave there long [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► enough dust will settle on your sensor [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► and dust on the sensor unlike Dustin [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► lenses actually is surprisingly visible [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► small sizes because that's a whole [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► different ballgame and dust way out [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► there somewhere in the in the path of [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► that light takes as it goes through [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► these giant pieces of glass this is on [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► the sensor like directly on the little [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► whatever thing that protects the you [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► know it's very close to the actual [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► things that sense the light so a small [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► piece of dust upon can make a big [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► difference so I'm still proud or but in [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► the meantime i'm still being super [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► careful [TS]

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00:11:11 ◼   ► ah so just earlier today as we record [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► there has been an announcement that we [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► are going to talk about the mac or [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► really Apple is going to talk about the [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► mac on october 27th mediated invites of [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► going out and as usual apples keeping [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► things close to the chest under the best [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► whatever the phrasing is under the vest [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► people actually say that now i just [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► closed the Chester sounded wrong he just [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► he's got as a as merchants works again [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► it happens from time to time we are [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► professionals kids don't try this at [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► home so the invite has a colorful apple [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► logo or most of one anyway and it says [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► hello again beneath it and of course all [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► the old Apple nerds like John siracusa [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► are remembering some old Mac I don't [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► even know which one it was that said [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► hello again on some all the matter i [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► know i'm gonna love this like you're [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► doing this I swear to God I did that on [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► purpose just to see you get word here [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► you get riled hard to know with you guys [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► are reminiscing about leopard so which [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► old witch important Mac was John well [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► that's the the one bullet point of the [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► put in this invitation normally I don't [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► put much stock in spending time looking [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► at these invitation images you know [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► they're fun they're amusing and it's [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► great to see them over but like whatever [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► like a natural be I think time is shown [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► for the most part the announcement [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► images haha connect to what is announced [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► in a less interesting way than people [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► imagine like they're always looking for [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► something really interesting this [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► connection very often i'm usually that [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► connection is pretty obvious and the [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► obvious interpretation is correct it's [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► not a big deal the reason i think this [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► one is interesting and probably [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► interesting in a bad way is not because [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► of the picture which appears to be an [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► apple logo with what do you guys think [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► that is smoke interesting color blobs [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► looks like a blurred version of the [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► aurora borealis behind some dark trees [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► at night [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► yeah that sounds stupid but but like he [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► has a pink blob and maybe that will [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► connect to what is announced in a way [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► that is obvious after the fact [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► or whatever but it also has text [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► underneath the text says hello again and [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► all lowercase in my nose at san [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► francisco i'm not good at identifying [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► fonts probably hates me and that is [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► significant because the original [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► Macintosh was famously to people who are [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► alive and into tech then introduced with [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► a hello and script written in mac paint [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► on the screen kind of like you know that [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► look very humanistic way for the [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► computer to announce itself rather than [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► you know monospaced font or text or [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► whatever's hello Raymond script in a big [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► thick line right and that didn't show up [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► again as a marketing motif other than [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► referencing back to the original [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► marketing motif until the imac when [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► steve jobs in return and it's the first [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► big important product this God wasn't [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► the first time back [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► yes it was the first time and that one [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► now there's hello and then in [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► parentheses again and the reason that [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► said hello again it's because it was [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► kind of announcing this new computer [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► this weird teal thing that you've never [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► seen before like it looks like no other [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► magnificent house like it along with the [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► ipod the products that turned around [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► apple from this company that was going [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► out of business the company to pay [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► attention to the imac really i think was [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► the thing that made people say well [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► maybe the apples not going out of [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► business after all but it's not you know [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► that's damning with faint praise is not [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► going out of business about people [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► paying attention and it was interesting [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► was that it was the original iMac the [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► best computer in the world [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► no but it was very important computer [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► was important to apple because it meant [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► that they were a vibrant company can do [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► interesting things that people will want [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► to look at and it was important to the [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► entire industry that influence how [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► technology and computing hardware was [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► made from that point forward we're [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► talking about all the teal my irons and [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► and vacuums and all sorts of other [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► things are just influence industrial [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► design and brought a new focus on what [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► computers look like or before they were [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► just basically base boxes and apples [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► have a classier beige boxes but uh it [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► didn't make a difference in else and [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► this one was in your face you could not [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► ignore it was look totally different [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► everything else and so hello again felt [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► appropriate appropriate time gap was the [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► imac like 1998 from the 1984 298 that's [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► when I felt like it was important and [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► significant enough to reference back to [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► the original max [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► hello and i give them that I say alright [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► hello again it fit with that it was it [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► was an important dramatic moment in the [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► history of Apple important time to [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► reference back to the original neck now [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► they're saying it's no parentheses this [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► time and the obvious interpretation is [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► oh this is gonna be an announcement [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► about Max which surprised that's what [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► everyone assumes it's going to be this [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► is the time when they're going to [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► announce some kind of maximal talk about [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► what which maxes might be in a little [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► bit and it's a nice way of saying we [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► know it's been a long time since we [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► introduced max so here's some acts right [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► but I feel like by using hello again [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► they are implying significance that I [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► don't think they can deliver on unless [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► they're doing our max oh that's right [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► there implying a significant significant [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► event as important as the original [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► Macintosh or the first imac and the only [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► thing i can announce today that the only [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► thing that in any of the rumors or [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► whatever that they can announce it [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► tomorrow or whenever next week that will [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► live up to hello again is if there are [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► substantially altering the mac line in a [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► way that is obvious injuries as obvious [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► and as dramatic as the imac was or as [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► the original mac was and maybe even our [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► maximum quality that only on marriage [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► equality because people don't care what [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► the hell chip is in their computers [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► right but at least the nerves that would [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► be significant it would be a big [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► transition but i don't think they're [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► going to announce our max I'm gonna have [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► a bunch of new max they're pretty cool i [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► don't know if you deserve it all again I [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► feel like I've been overhyped already [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► raining on everyone's parade and were [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► over a week away with its this is only [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► been an announcement for like six hours [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► why does the word you can't you can't [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► tell it like you can / use it like the [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► one more thing they've used sparingly [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► for the most part and I almost get them [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► past the optically like one more thing [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► was used so many times hello is only [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► been used [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► you know the original mac constant [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► references the original mac and then the [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► imac with again in parentheses and other [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► using now because they haven't released [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► max in like a year it's not if they're [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► trying to do it to like you know to [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► engender good feelings that's not [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► working on me and I don't think there's [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► anything they can deliver that will live [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► up to the significance of that too old [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► fogies like me everyone else doesn't [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► care like no no the hell knows what [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► hello again you didn't know what they [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► were lying back like it's not even not [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► gonna stop at a company but for me as an [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► old-school mac user I feel like this [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► isn't it [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► appropriate use of that solution and or [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► are they can announce new amazing max [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► that are totally on par with the imac an [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► original mac but I'm not holding my [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► breath [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► yeah I mean like I I think I don't doubt [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► that it is possible to do something in [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► the mac lineup that would justify this [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► level of old-school reference type but [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► I'd I really don't think it's very [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► likely likely that's what they've done [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► this time just because of you know the [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► the situation the mac has been in for [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► all this time the the relative [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► importance of the mac to apple that that [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► at least the way it seems is fairly low [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► these days so I i really doubt that they [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► have done what you would expect from [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► this kind of reference that being said I [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► mean you know the the again now is not [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► in parentheses so maybe that means that [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► they deleted more ports [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► I don't know well I mean it that's the [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► other thing like you can do hello and [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► you can do hello again but if you do [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► again again and you're kind of out of [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► ideas so I mean that could be where [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► they're saying it's not as significant [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► as you think we're referencing hello but [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► obviously we'd already did it low again [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► and we're doing it again again if they [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► headed hello again again that I mean [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► they did the voice of the funnest ipod [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► why not hello again again i want to [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► write what killed that one in the [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► meeting to come up with the slogan [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► figures bigger probably a 10 minute [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► meeting because again [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► who cares about these images whom even [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► knows they exist except for like tech [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► journalists people who read text sites [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► but that's a thing I mean like they [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► disappear the moment the event starts [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► these images disappear from the world [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► yeah no one cares about that once the [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► motor did things over known goes back [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► and says oh I guess you know it turned [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► out they were announcing a you know back [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► to the mac they did announce about your [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► mac stuff so anyway I personally feel [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► like I have been overhyped in the grand [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► scheme of things the hell again doesn't [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► matter at all but i won't forget [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► so here's a question the so the macbook [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► pro based on the rumors and everything [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► that have been fairly consistent for [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► quite a long time now so i think there's [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► no prob one of those like where the [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► smoke there's fire situations where we [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► can be pretty sure at least some of [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► what's being announced next week with [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► this point and and it sure seems like [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► the macbook pro is getting a noteworthy [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► update but not like a revolutionary up [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► you know like it might be getting some [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► cool software malfunction keys like okay [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► that's that's fine but you know it's [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► probably not going to be amazing [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► revolutionary for going to be you know a [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► nice to have it's probably going to get [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► a little bit smaller a little bit [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► lighter that's also you know not [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► revolutionary just nice to have probably [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► gonna be in a little faster little [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► slightly more updated things touch ID [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► maybe for unlocking again nice to have [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► so it's good it's going to add up to a [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► really nice update not likelihood but [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► you know to to be this revolutionary [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► what you're expecting from this use of [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► this reference i don't think it's in the [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► chance [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► one thing I am a little curious about is [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► that 13-inch retina macbook air [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► I'm telling you like that there's [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► something there there's something like [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► we've been hearing about the macbook pro [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► forever now that we've been hearing [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► about about this updated MacBook Pro and [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► rumor sites for what six months at least [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► it's been a long time and then we've [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► heard almost nothing about whatever this [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook or macbook air is being [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► released allegedly maybe that is going [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► to be more interesting because you know [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► they share sell a lot of macbook airs [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► and so even though like the geeks like [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► us have been focused on the retina [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► machines for the last you know four [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► years since the first one they still [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► continue to sell a ton of macbook airs [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► because they're very they're very [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► affordable [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► they're very practical they're really [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► good balance about the things we've gone [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► over this before I wonder if maybe the [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► really significant machine of this event [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► is actually that their connect MacBook [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► Air we over whatever whatever it is that [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► is going to fill that slot now I don't [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► so let's suppose for a second that there [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► is a 13-inch macbook of some flavor that [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► is retina why would that be an air and [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► not just a 13-inch macbook that's a [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► problem with all these rumors because [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► they keep saying the 13-inch macbook air [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► as as we all know from longtime watching [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► rivers things [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► the one thing that rumor sites pretty [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► much never know the two things that [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► pretty much never know are the the name [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► in the price because those are easily [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► changeable and they're not important for [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► most people to know who would leak small [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► number of people can know them name [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► price leaked last and sometimes price [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► not at all and they have to but they [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► have to keep referring to this [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► but you know whatever they have rumors [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► and partly sand things people have seen [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► things or whatever even people who are [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► working on the machine don't know what [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► it's going to be named that's not their [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► Department all i know is that there's a [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► 13 inch screen and something having to [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► do with a laptop and we discussed in the [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► past like maybe that 13 screen was for [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► is that a 13-inch macbook pro is it a [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook is it an air replacement [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► that the whole point is you can have [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► someone with this machine sitting in [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► front of them right now and get them on [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► the phone and say so is that a macbook [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► air like i don't know i can just [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► describe to you the Machine I don't know [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► how it's going to be sold it going to [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► have the air name under not especially [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► if its retina like what makes it at this [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► point [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► air is defined by not having a Retina [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► screen like that's what distinguished [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► visitor having old forts and not having [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► a redneck screen and you know so i don't [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► know if they have a laptop that fits [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► into that slot in their lineup [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► somehow I think it's fine but i don't [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► know if we can but by continually [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► referring to it as a 13-inch macbook air [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► i think it's weird expectations about it [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► like you know does that mean it has to [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► be really cheap does that mean it has to [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► have more ports then we would expect [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► does that mean it has to have a non [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► retina screen otherwise it's not an air [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► or is it just have to put the name air [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► on it and it'll be like surprise apples [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► decided to keep that line going even [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► though there's no real reason to [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► well but you know I air does mean [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► something in in hardware terms the air [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► has always used this line of intel cpus [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► that has a thermal power of roughly 17 [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► wats and the macbook one uses like six [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► wat cpus so it's a lot less power and [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► therefore it can be families but also is [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► not nearly as fast can sustain alone for [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► nearly as long and as a bunch of [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► limitations like and how many ports you [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► can have due to various limitation of [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► the chips and everything else so that [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► book one like it's never gonna it's [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► never gonna be as powerful as as a [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► recently updated in macbook air could be [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► because I'm applicators has a much [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► higher power budget and then above the [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► macbook air you have the 13-inch macbook [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► pros and those use I mean that the [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► macbook pro 15-inch use like a 45 watt [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► line i forget water 30 inches things [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► like 25 or 30 anyway whatever it is it's [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► a lot more than 17 and so you have this [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► like slot in the middle and the macbook [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► air one of the reasons it could be so [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► thin and so light and so small is [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► because these really low power too [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► use were just an awesome balance of [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► power versus performance that lineup of [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► these little 71 cpus has been as yet [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► completely unused in anything with [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► Retina screen and therefore completely [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► unused anything that our powers like us [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► might care about because most of us want [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► reading screens but it turns out like [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► that balance is awesome like for what [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► most people need of a laptop you know [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► the macbook one the most recent book one [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► the second one got a lot faster than the [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► first one but it's still nowhere near [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► what an updated air could do and the [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► epoch won a lot of people complain that [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► you know and I used on briefly I know [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► like you know it's kind of slow [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► well turns out that the macbook air has [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► a lot fewer people complaining about the [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► slowness because macbook air cpus can [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► actually be substantially faster and so [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► to not use that that processor line in [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► anything i think is a waste because it's [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► such a good balance of battery life and [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► and low heat vs performance now what [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► they could do is basically have the [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► macbook pro 13-inch come down and kind [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► and use that processor line at least [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► offered as an option and kind of replace [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► what the air used to be but then you [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► have nothing using these here that David [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► job in the chat is clarified the 13 [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► inches 28 wat cpu so basically goes five [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► or six watch for the macbook 1 16 or 17 [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► for the air [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► 28 for the 13 and 45 for the 15 these [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► are distinct power classes that are [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► pretty far from each other you know the [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► the macbook air compared to the 13-inch [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► it's it's twice as much I mean it's [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► there it's you know twice or half as [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► much it's a huge gap and the macbook one [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► macbook airs three times as much [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► so these are major power differences in [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► the heat the battery life the budget [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► like these are huge power differences [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► and that's why these computers are able [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► to be so different in size and battery [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► life it's not because they choose the [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► sizes arbitrarily it's because this [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► massive power sucking component of the [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► of the computer is chosen and kind of in [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► these buckets and they can shrink the [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► rest of computer there's the computer [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► around that so they can be the smallest [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► lightest computer possible that can [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► still give you know annex what cpu [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► enough battery life to be practical and [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► useful to people what I was getting at [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► with the airline [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► not having a place anymore is because [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► the airline was introduced as the ultra [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► portable and the air name is going away [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► because the idea of the ipad air is not [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► replaced by they have been you know they [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► still sell it like it's on its way out [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► and the air laptop continues to have the [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► nightmare despite the fact that is no [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► longer the smallest lightest laptop so [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► what I would totally expect out of a 13 [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► inch computer that people keep calling a [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook air is for it to be a [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook not a 13-inch macbook [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► pro using the 15 or 20 2015 why the cpu [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► and there but to be a 13-inch macbook [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► because i don't think there's anything [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► that says that the macbook has to be [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► families they're really small macbook [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► can be fanless the next one up can have [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► a wee little fan it and then you go pro [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► 13 pro 15 that seems like a line that [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► makes sense to me [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► macbook pro and macbook i see no place [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► for the air branding except as a legacy [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► thing where it's likely have not read [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► the screens they're super cheap and [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► you're right that it's weird that [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► they've been the only one to have this [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► particular balance of power and you know [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► sighs I that's apples faults for just [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► deciding to let the air be like this [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► legacy line and not using that champion [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► myself but I think now would be the time [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► to use that trip someplace else or the [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► chips in that class not just specific [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► trip and I i think it is more natural [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► for it to fit as a 13-inch macbook then [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► to fit as like pushing up the line or [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► whatever and then then the airline [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► really does go away or becomes like the [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► iplayer we're like yet i continued to [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► sell it even more discounted price just [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► to just because they can but the you [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► know you have the macbook you have a [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► slightly bigger macbook and you have the [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► macbook pro and slightly bigger macbook [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► pro and i think that would make a nice [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► lineup [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► yeah baby but that point like you know [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► if if you're saying that like you know [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► the difference between the what what is [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► now the macbook the map at one and the [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► macbook air line you know they're [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► complete twice as fast it can it can [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► have way more ports enough and more [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► kinds of ports and a bigger screen and [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► so if that considers itself within the [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► same family of these two very different [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► computers [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► why does the macbook pro get a [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► protonation how is that any different [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► external GPU and 13-inch no.13 doesn't [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► have it the 15 only has optionally now [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► you could have it [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► well barely only the very high end bug [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► you and you get worse better [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► it's if you choose that option past [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► that's everything i'm gonna lie i feel [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► like it could be the same with a 13 inch [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► pro would be thicker heavier and that [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► thickness and heavier and happiness [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► would give it more battery to do more [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► power cycling stuff whether it's having [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► a higher clock cpu or more ram or an [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► external GPU on the high end model or [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► anything like that you said you can see [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► the exact same thing about going from [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► the 12 of the 13 inch like you know it's [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► like it's the same it's the same scale [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► of difference between the current [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► macbook one and the rumored retina [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► macbook air as they would be between [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► this retina macbook air and macbook pro [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► line [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► look you've got you've got three classes [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► of cpu and you only got two names right [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► because i think the the air name is on [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► its way out so you you gotta divide down [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► the middle be macbook and macbook pro so [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► the metal cpu things got to go on one [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► side of the other and I think it should [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► on the macbook side if it goes in the [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► pro side oh well but it seems more [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► natural for me to go on her to go on the [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► macbook side [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► yeah i think i agree i think the macbook [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► air name goes away and I think that we [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► are left with macbooks and macbook pros [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► and and that's all that remains well [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► maybe it was ok so maybe like older [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► devices would retain the air name but [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► i'm talking about the brand new devices [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► whatever is considered the most modern I [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► think it would either be macbook or [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► macbook pro now they would travel [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► spending on the chat room that we [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► actually for classes you got the 45 [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► water in the 15-inch the 28 water in the [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► 13-inch and then you're down into the [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► macbook air at 16 and macbook at five so [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► if you're going to put the 16 and fives [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► or 15 and 5 down the macbook and the 45 [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► and 28 in the pro that's an even split [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► then but it really depends on what [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► things apple actually decides to use [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► because just because cpu classes of cpus [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► are available doesn't mean that Apple [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► necessarily use them in their products [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► I just think the air the whole air [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► naming thing doesn't make sense anymore [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► needs to go into way out but i think [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► people keep using that name because it's [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► the only way they have to refer to a [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► machine that's not a pro and it's not [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► the skinny little macbook protected by [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► the way I want to start off of though [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► because only one of us are 1.5 just [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► looking at the notes was for the [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► projector 27 Apple event i think one [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► place to start would be what should [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► apple announced in order of priority [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► like what's the most important [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► thing for them to announce second most [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► important therapist or whatever and then [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► after that we can say what we wish they [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► would announce ignoring what's actually [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► important for the company so who wants [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► to go first what should apple announced [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► that this October 27 minutes but there's [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► no there's no question it has to be new [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► macbook pros because that is the [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► workhorse of the lineup as far as i'm [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► concerned i agree with you that a lot of [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► MacBook Airs gets old and maybe somebody [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► has numbers somebody outside apple has [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► numbers maybe it's more macbook air and [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► macbook pros but man I think business [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► runs a lot of businesses run a macbook [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► pros laminators too i guess but a lot of [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► businesses run macros IC macbook pros [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► everywhere I think they have to announce [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► macbook pros I think that's [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► non-negotiable or an equivalent thereof [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► for some reason they changed the name i [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► think that's non-negotiable my greatest [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► number one I mean it's obvious number [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► one it's a thing I think if we have to [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► put money we would all bet on as the [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► most likely think they have to because [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► it is it is the most important mac that [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► they have is their laptop line and the [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► macbook pros I did they would have been [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► updated a long time they're really [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► important beautiful care about Max at [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► all they need to and almost certainly [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► will announce new macbook pros [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► well if you look at what is most [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► important for them to announce if you go [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► by like Tim Cook Apple it's probably the [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► air pods [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► well we're talking about Max at this [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► point okay well I guess I guess based on [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► the based on the little advertisement [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► although we're not reading too much into [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► it says hello again that's a mac [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► reference this event is going to be on [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► max knows it will be other things this [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► event who knows who knows what other [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► stuff that amount for their pods are [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► already a thing I feel like this is [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► event is going to be about Max for the [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► most part and you know unless you think [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► of some other higher priority thing that [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► they need to announce in October that [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► they haven't already announced I mean [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► air pods are probably gonna make them [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► more money than the macbook pro well for [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► a while I nobody is that everybody know [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► but we can't buy me [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► no but you will be able like that sure [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► don't have the data what everybody [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► thinks [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► announcing the date for for that is more [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► important than the new max I don't know [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► maybe Tim I I honestly don't think that [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► Tim gives much thought to the back it's [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► not it's not that he like hates it or [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► doesn't care about it i just don't get a [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► lot of thought I really don't [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► well but anyway personal personal CEO [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► speculation aside yeah it's probably [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► macbook pro i think you're right i do [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► think the macbook air is probably if i [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► had to guess the one who sells the most [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► however macbook air buyers tend to buy [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► it because it is so cheap and so it's [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► often like schools and people who are [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► buying a ton of them and who need them [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► to be as as affordable as possible [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► because the blanket on and you know in [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► the case of schools they don't have [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► massive budgets so it's probably that [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► the macbook air while it is very [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► important for two existing be sold and [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► in my opinion be good i think it's less [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► important that it be radically [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► up-to-date the macbook pro on the other [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► hand cells to people who more often care [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► about how you know fresh it is and and [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► macbook pro buyers would probably be [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► more worked the macbook air buyers at [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► the at the process of buying a two or [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► three-year old one brand new [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► yeah i think the crisis they're facing [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► here with the whole the whole hello [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► again think basically acknowledges that [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► is they are acknowledging that the [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► people who do not buy most of the most [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► volume because like that the most volume [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► as the cheap ones right but the people [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► who buy cheap ones are not like waiting [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► for Apple events looking for [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► announcement it's the enthusiast [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► community or like the more advanced pro [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► users who have even noticed that Apple [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► has not updated their backline you're [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► right a long time where you know we're [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► the only people even notice [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► so this is it's an important that [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► there's no like lack of it there's no [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► there's no faith gap among the people [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► are buying a macbook airs because they [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► don't know or care like Apple day so [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► that the fact that there's already [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► ancient have not read the screen to be [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► told most people like non-red know what [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► I'm not just talking about it like this [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► laptop right that's not what this event [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► for that's why I think the highest [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► priority the most important thing that [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► they have to announce here is the [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► macbook pros not because they're gonna [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► sell more macros the macbook airs but [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► because that's what this event is all [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► about announcing sterile you have to [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► move get over the head of the train [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► ahead like that thought the tail end [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► it's going it's like nobody cares about [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► that is so I think history has shown you [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► cannot update the macbook is real long [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► time they still keep selling which we [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► think is awful as enthusiasts victim [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► could probably likes so we're all in [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► agreement macbook pro is the most [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► important with a corollary about pod [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► making a lot of money for Tim yeah I [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► mean ultimately like here's here's what [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► I would like see like I i get i get why [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► Tim Cook doesn't have to care that much [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► about things like the mac mini and [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► keeping the Medicare up-to-date I get [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► why but all of us are Apple fans because [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► apple for many product categories and [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► for many for many times throughout [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► history has stood for being the best do [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► making things that the best they can [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► make them making you know what they [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► consider to be the best product possible [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► and if you look at the mac mini is that [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► really the best product possible [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► no of course not apple doesn't care [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► about it if you look at the you know the [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► 21 inch imac that still ships with a [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► 5400 RPM hard drive standard is that the [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► best product apple can make no of course [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► basically you can look at a lot of the [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► mac lineup and whether it's like [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► entry-level being way too low [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► spec-wise that actually make for bad [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► products like hard drive equipped [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► computers in 2016 or if you look at mac [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► product lines that just almost never get [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► updated and continue selling the oldest [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► hardware forever like the mac pro in the [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► mac mini I just wish Apple cared about [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► these things as much as we do [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► because Apple as a brand and I do [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► believe that many of the people at both [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► high and low levels of the company [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► believe this and think this way Apple [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► tries to make the best products they [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► possibly can make in so many categories [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► and for some reason they think it's okay [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► to completely neglect it's almost too [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► insulting degree some of their mac [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► product lines and to me like that's not [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► Apple like at least that's not that's [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► not the way Apple thinks it is and [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► presents itself and the way that we [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► Apple enthusiasts want them to be even [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► though you know actions speak louder [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► than words so right now that's the kind [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► of company Apple is but I wish they [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► weren't i wish they were the kind of [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► company that they protect themselves as [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► that we expect them to be you know [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► everything you sell you should try to [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► make it as good as you can make it [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► because that's what if you had to pick [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► one Apple value like what water apples [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► values or does Apple stand for [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► it's that it's that everything they make [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► should be the best thing that they can [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► make [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► you can't say that about a macpro that [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► has been updated in three years or Mac [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► me that has been updated in probably [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► about as long or these computers at skip [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► generations because apple just doesn't [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► care about new hardware to put in them [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► and they'll keep selling it only because [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► it keeps selling like the like the one [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► on one laptop or the you know all the is [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► it like keeping that keeping selling [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► anything non-retina in 2016 anything [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► with a spinning hard drive in 2016 like [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► these are not the best products they can [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► be and margins might suffer a little bit [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► and you might have to put in some [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► engineering effort sometimes into [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► product lines aren't that popular but if [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► they're worth making at all keep making [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► the best they can be because that that's [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► what Apple is supposed to actually stand [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► for and dad just qualify their real i [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► can imagine people typing up there [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► 32 replies right now is listen I if the [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► best they can be within their price [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► point obviously no one is saying for [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► every single computer has to have the [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► very best computer components and every [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► man has to have the arm processors and [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► ECC ram like it's within the price range [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► and what we're saying is like the mac [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► pro is a great example even though it is [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► the high-end machine can Apple make and [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► sell a mac pro at its current price [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► point with better harbor unquestionably [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► same thing for the mini it's not it's [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► not saying that the mac mini has to have [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► the top and hardware is likely the [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► philosophy the Apple itself expresses a [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► lot of times that when they do anything [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► they want to make it the best they can [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► and they're they're in their own [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► statements implied the best we can [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► within the realm of this reason for this [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► price point so when they make a keyboard [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► like we spent a really long time working [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► on his key clicks okc would be really [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► happy and we want to make it there [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► making the best keyboard they can [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► they're not making a keyboard the cost [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► $3,000 like it's not well I bet you [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► could make a better than 3,000 yes they [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► have a target price like what is a [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► reasonable price for a keyboard for you [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► know like that's obvious but it's within [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► the price ranges when you don't even the [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► 101 we're just like fine education wants [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► like a macbook an optical drive and a [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► non retina screen it's really rugged or [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► whatever if that's a product fine [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► that's a plus two products not but you [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► still have to say if people are going to [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► buy this computer year after year next [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► year we should have ace ever so slightly [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► better more rugged but more reliable [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► more efficient more pleasing mac with an [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► optical drive and on retina screen for [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► education like just you know you don't [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► have to update them constantly but are [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► you saying you know we don't ever want [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► to invest any more money in this ever [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► again but we will sell year after year [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► after year and that is on Apple I could [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► not the fact that they're they're not [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► making that computer have you know five [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► gigahertz processor and an amazing [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► retin-a p3 screen on it like best [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► makeover saying it's if you're going to [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► sell it at all like ru is a computer [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► proud to sell are you planning to sell [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► that imac with the 5400 RPM drive would [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► you be proud to give this to somebody [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► and say where Apple and we're proud of [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► all our products take this 21 inch imac [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► with the 5400 RPM screen you'll be [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► apologizing every five minutes [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► yeah you know this is not the most [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► maxlite we're sorry like if you feel [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► like you have to apologize to someone [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► like yes I feel that is a tech person [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► when someone buys like the wrong product [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► and your kind of like this is not [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► representative with all these inter like [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► you actually got the worst possible one [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► and its really slow and i know it was [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► also still a lot of money for you that's [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► the other reason is Apple's products are [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► a lot of money relative to their [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► competing products yes there has to be a [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► trade-off for that you have to go as a [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► you know it doesn't have to be a snappy [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► the mac pro but like every year make it [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► a little better you know it would have [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► been a lot of like little references [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► here and there around our community [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► about like how you know you don't really [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► need to defend Apple as hard as you do [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► that Apple can defend themselves they're [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► huge company etc etc and one of the [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► things I keep seeing whenever I mention [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► a 13-8 that basically that i believe [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► that it is both time and it is likely [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► that we will see a 13-inch retina [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► macbook air next week [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► a lot of people say oh you can't do [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► retina in that size because it costs too [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► much [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► no it doesn't look around the entire [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► rest of the computing industry that [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► that's ridiculous look at the ipad [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► probably probably cost more to get those [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► non-retina screens at this point [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► yeah yeah at some point they're gonna [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► stop making enough but that's great that [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► they able to buy them anymore like it [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► look around the industry hardware is [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► shockingly cheap look it is ridiculously [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► cheap look around and a lot of stuff has [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► similar or nicer screens for less money [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► like it can be done it can totally be [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► done it is 2016 is almost 2017 you can [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► have a retina macbook air size screen at [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► thousand dollars [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► and still have a profit margin healthy [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► enough for apple like that is totally [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► possible hardly cheap these days if you [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► wanted to put a 256gb SSD as the base [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► model storage in every single mac that [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► is sold [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► you could totally do it and the effects [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► are margins would probably not be very [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► substantial at all [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► it might it might even be noticeable [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► like it it is totally possible to go all [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► retina all SSD today in the mac lineup [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► it's only up to Apple when they do that [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► and as soon as they can go all retina [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► and all SSD there in their computers [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► will be across the board a solid [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► recommendation a it'll be so much better [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► and they just aren't there yet because [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► they just keep preserving like kind of [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► the Tim Cook wave just keep selling [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► everything forever and no matter how you [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► no matter how old or ancient or crappy [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► it is like if someone still buying it [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► will keep selling it at whatever low [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► price we can get like no that's that's [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► not Apple that is not what Apple has [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► ever stood for that is not what most [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► Apple people like to think Apple stands [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► for and that is not what are what [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► Apple's customers think Apple stands for [TS]

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00:44:53 ◼   ► talking macbook pros talk about larger [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► issues harder question what is the [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► second highest priority think that they [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► should help this event Apple pencil to [TS]

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00:45:07 ◼   ► that and I think it's the macbook air or [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► if John and I are right the 13-inch [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► macbook whatever whatever skills that [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► slot i think is the second most [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► important [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► yeah I mean and if you can look at like [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► other things that are very likely i [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► think the imac is very likely to get a [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► minute I think cabling is ready for that [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► class of cpu isn't it [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► maybe you think that's important like so [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► are you alright i'm mostly I must agree [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► that it's something in that in that [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► range of products whether it ends up [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► being a macbook or macbook pro 13-inch [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► is the second most important what is the [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► third most important is the imac their [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► most important because I feel like that [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► of all the line of computer they'll get [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► the 5k imac is the one that I have the [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► least problem recommending in terms of [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► max at this point yeah well because the [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► the 5k imac uses a class of cpus that is [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► very regularly updated by Intel is [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► almost always the first one to get [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► certain certain things like this big [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► high-power one there i think i guess [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► they probably easier to make and and so [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► it was the first one the sky lake last [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► last winter and now I desk right now [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► right and then I believe the cable lake [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► version is is basically ready now [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► because they get updated about every [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► fall so the imac will probably get an [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► update with 2d calculate because i [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► believe keep it was a fairly minor [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► update yeah I don't think it's crying [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► out for a cable a cup right do you think [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► like is that of all the problems that [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► are [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► that are with the current five-game [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► actually saying I wish to have something [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► faster cpu well not on my high on my [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► list [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► well but they're the imac is like it's [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► the amicus already plenty fast what I'm [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► guessing it's going to get it already [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► has the wide gamut color from last year [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► so that the screen is already like [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► top-notch i'm guessing it has to convert [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► to us bc and have vulnerable three [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► that's so that's you know that's like [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► the obvious thing like that like you [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► know if Apple ever gets around to making [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► everything breton SSD the next big [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► transition is moving everything over to [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► us bc and Thunderbolt three or [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► everything that can do that we should be [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► most computers not all of them so you [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► know that's i would imagine the imac [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► it's an update that is a moderate cpu [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► increase gpus potentially better who [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► knows [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► and anyway that's the only rumor about [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► the imac is everyone saying new imacs a [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► better gps and if I had to pick one [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► thing we need to do great i don't [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► honestly at this point i would pick [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► faster GPU / USBC for the imac but [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► that's just me [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► well USBC has another interesting thing [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► which is there are also those rumors [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► about the 5k external display and and if [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► the information that we have on that is [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► right for me tipster and which I believe [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► the rumor sites of all corroborated at [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► this point he was telling like six [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► months ago but if the information is [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► the 5k monitor is very likely to ship [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► this time it is based on wonderful three [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► over us bc plug and that it will only be [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► compatible with macs that have USBC with [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► honorable three on them which is [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► currently none of them and will [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► presumably be everything announced the [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► next week so presumably will be the new [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► macbook pros if the macbook airs knew [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► that thing to and the new imac so all [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► those things should in theory be able to [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► drive this new display and probably no [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► other max including the current mac pro [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► which will be in slightly embarrassing [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► but nobody buys the mac pro anyway so [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► I'm kind of torn on the on the the third [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► priority after the macbook pros in the [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► macbook because I really don't feel like [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► the 5k mckee needs it other than like [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► you said being able to drive the monitor [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► than theory they're announcing by the [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► way maybe you can let that monitors the [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► third item but it's kind of like a tie [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► with me for me with between the imac [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► the mac pro even though nobody buys the [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► mac pro in terms of priority order what [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► they should announce to have a positive [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► 2 to make up for the areas where they [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► have problems in areas where problems [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► are they well they're not updated the [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► longest and should is very different [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► than will you I thought we were the [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► other guesses not listed on the should [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► get one should announce in order of [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► priority and I i totally totally safe [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► saying that you know macros that is the [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► highest priority macbook second house [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► party and then mac pro and imac kind of [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► a time because the mac pro is like [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► really that is if they care about pro at [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► all like the mean obviously they can't [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► do this that you skanky bitch can write [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► we know that's why none of us expected [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► Mac Pro will get what they think they're [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► going to do next but if they had made [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► wiser choices had a macbook had a matter [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► of product ready to go with a pre [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► skylake but post whatever the hell has [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► well II think they're using the old ones [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► that wasn't the only reason i remember [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► anymore the old my prose ivy bridge and [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► then and they they missed Haswell and [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► broad well yeah okay [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► anyway um that's what they should do [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► they're not going to but that would I [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► feel like there will be a tie for them [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► again none of us think that the mac mini [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► because the mac mini is not symbolic of [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► any segment that that we think is [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► important it's like if there's the pro [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► segment and then there's the stuff that [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► everybody else buys and the mac mini is [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► like not pro not everybody else weird [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► little thing and honestly it is a shame [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► they don't update it but i think it is [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► at the bottom of their priorities in [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► terms of what they should announce to [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► reassure any community of of purchasers [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► or to make up for past sins or whatever [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► because the mac mini has been on this [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► pay no mind list for its entire life [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► basically and it should just be used to [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► no i mean like if we're going for what [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► should they announced to convince people [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► who are paying attention that they got [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► their heads in the right place a mac pro [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► is is definitely number three if not [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► even number to it but if we in terms of [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► what they will actually announced i [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► don't i don't think we have a chance of [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► it because as you as you mentioned a few [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► minutes ago basically the mac pro is [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► currently kind of between two [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► generations like if Apple is going to [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► release a mac pro with a certain family [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► of Intel Xeon CPUs usually do it very [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► promptly with that families released to [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► the public [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► and the last Xeon CPUs released back in [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► June that was the broad well Eli so i [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► doubt like if they were going to ship [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► Mac Pro's that use broad well they [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► probably would have already done that so [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► it should have but they didn't write and [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► and the sky lake easy ons and and these [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► these names all lag behind the consumer [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► ships there's good reasons for that but [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► basically skylight is coming to the xeon [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► family allegedly in the first half of [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► 2017 so my guess is that we get a [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► skylake mac pro if it is going to exist [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► we get that probably at WTC of next year [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► which will be awesome if it exists [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► because i like on the mac pro is [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► actually a really big upgrade like the [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► skylights xeon chipset this Intel's [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► codenamed pearly chips that has a bunch [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► of big improvements you know what like [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► higher throughput on things more [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► pci-express better memory all sorts of [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► improvements that will be bigger than [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► the average the upgrade so if we're [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► waiting for that like okay it'd be nice [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► if they had one now but that's gonna be [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► an awesome mac pro and eventually comes [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► out you know it's weird because I can't [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► believe I'm going to say this but I [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► think that updating the mac pro is [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► considerably more important than [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► updating the imac the imac yeah isn't [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► that old and I i concur that it's not [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► likely to happen and god I hope it [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► doesn't happen because of you two will [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► go on for 17 episodes but i do think it [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► is important for it to happen it's just [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► unfortunately the timing is all off but [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► it should happen for sure [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► well you had about like the reason I'm [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► doing prior this is you have to balance [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► not just like Oh what is the most likely [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► but it's like there's a there's a [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► balance between the volume of these that [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► you sell how important is this to the [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► entire product line and how far behind [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► is and that's why I think the macbook [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► pros and equities to come first because [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► their volume is just so much more than a [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► crow [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► yeah but at a certain point even at the [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► intestinal volumes of the mac pro cells [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► become symbolic and that's why I feel [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► like it's kind of the number three spot [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► time with the imac with Sam excels way [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► more than the mac pro and you know and [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► it's like it's another words I don't [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► want to say oh you've updated the imac [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► recently you can lead to give that one a [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► year-and-a-half vacation like now don't [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► keep doing what you [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► no that the rate of progress on the imac [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► has been good it's been a 5k mac and [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► then very shortly after a 5k Mike with a [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► better screen and it should be very [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► shortly after that [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► hey five came back with us bc they can [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► drive this new monitor like you know it [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► keep doing that that's what you're [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► supposed to the one back to doing the [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► right thing with so I almost don't want [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► to say oh you don't have to update on [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► that's not important but it isn't the [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► number three slot maybe time but the mac [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► processes like top-four we can just [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► quickly all the pics [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► it's like I think so so how important do [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► you guys think the external 5k display [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► is because i think it's probably a very [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► boring product but i think i think it's [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► actually a really big deal of power [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► users because a lot of power users use [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► MacBook Pros or macbook airs as their [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► primary only computer and they use them [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► at a desk or or you know moving around [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► and so many people i know use MacBook [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► Pros with extra monitors and you can get [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► retina so far if with like various dells [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► and stuff but it it tends to be buggy [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► and limited and generally crappy so this [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► you know i would imagine KC you're [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► probably like first in line for this [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► well yes and no so I have very strong [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► feelings about this I'm i have to lenovo [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► monitors at work [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► they're probably 22 or 24 inches they're [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► completely unremarkable in every way [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► they I think might be 1080 maybe I again [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► there's someone remarkable I don't even [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► recall what resolution they are i use [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► the two of them side-by-side on a [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► standing desk i leave my macbook pro [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► clamshell when i'm at work [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► this generally speaking is actually [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► fairly nice to have to reasonably large [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► external monitors that are pretty much [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► identical [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► however this becomes a freaking [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► nightmare when I'm doing you I work in [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► the simulator because these screens are [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► not retina which means when I shrink the [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► simulators so that it actually fits on [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► my screen which means I'm shrinking it [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► to you know like fifty percent at the [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► least [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► oftentimes I'll drop things that are on [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► the UI perfect example [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► yeah I constantly drop the dividing line [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► between tableview cells constantly and [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► so I think there's something wrong with [TS]