The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► all right fine you just go ahead keep [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► being smug smug take no pleasure in [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► being right all the time using oh haha [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► please tell me you could hear my eyes [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► rolling we got a few pieces of feedback [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► about some phrasing yeah this moment [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► we're talking about boys the topic we [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► were talking about [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► we'll get to later in the fall but in [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► fact that yes the touch thing anyway and [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► I kept referring to was trying to refer [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► to the region on the map that in [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► visualizing my head that includes not [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► just China didn't we say China [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► businesslike yeah it's big it takes a [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► lot of room in that region but not the [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► only country there [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► it also encompasses all the other [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► countries that are sort of around china [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► and I kept saying the Far East which is [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► apparently a very Eurocentric and not [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► favored and slightly insulting term [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► because it's just you know deciding like [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► east of what he stood like where people [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► who get the name things are or whatever [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► so anyway [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► Far East will be excised from my [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► vocabulary to the best of my abilities [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► and we'll go with many suggestions [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► people at East Asia which I mean I guess [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► ages the landmass and it's not the [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► eastern part of it you can just say Asia [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► but i'm going to try not to say Far East [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► and if I slip up just tell me again live [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► in real-time and Mark awaited have not [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► correct with not on the air but there [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► you go [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► fair enough we need to talk about our [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► friendly wager there's some confusion in [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► the ranks and i am also confused [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► well is it is not time for any money [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► change hands will start by saying that [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► yes I I would concur [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► Luke Brewster call this for attention [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► earlier today in the 10.1 beta which was [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► released as we record just a few hours [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► ago in accessibility in the reducing [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► motion section there is now [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► autoplay message effects which to John's [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► credit at first glance appears to be a [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► sub setting which I told him would never [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► happen [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► and with regard to messages about that [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► was so long ago that was like that was [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► practically a week ago you don't have to [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► be so smug John although I would be if I [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► were you [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► I'm just saying I get myself until like [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► iOS 11 that's called adding padding god [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► autoplay message effects is its own [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► setting however some have said and [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► I don't have a link candy but we'll put [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► in the shows some of said that it's not [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► quite so simple and that it doesn't [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► appear to give you any sort of lasers it [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► just messes with some of the simple ones [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► like whisper maybe I'd I haven't tried [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► this amount on the data so so so i don't [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► i don't have this installed and I do it [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► for reports from people who have [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► installed the marker will report as well [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► the reports I've heard so far is that it [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► does nothing but the setting appears in [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► a setting only appears when your term [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► reduce motion on so for those emotions [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► off you need to see this setting only [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► one of these motions on do you get the [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► second setting and then no matter what [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► you put that second setting at it [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► appears to do nothing [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► do you have a experiments that a counter [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► contradict this Marco that has been my [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► experience exactly where I i just [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► installed it you know that an hour ago [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► just trying to get it done before the [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► show I could try it out and we didn't [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► try all the effects but i did try the [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► fullscreen lasers and stuff and they [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► they will say set with lasers but they [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► don't allow you to send them like you [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► can't 3d push the the up arrow thing it [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► doesn't do anything which i believe is [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► the same as whenever you have any reduce [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► motion turned on right and yes and and i [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► had to send me lasers and as far as you [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► know it still says sent with lasers but [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► it does not do any of the animation as [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► far as I could tell it really appears to [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► do nothing so things like not not hooked [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► up in interface builder as they say [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► basically somebody forgot to like it's [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► definitely out for the release like they [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► were working on it and didn't finish it [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► in time and somebody forgot to come out [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► basically [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► so anyway then mrs. this is not one of [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► the public-facing babies by the way I [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► think if you are i'm not sure but if [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► you're on the public beta would you get [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► this one now there is no public beta yet [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► for this version I I think pans arena [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► said it was gonna come out on friday but [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► i don't know i don't know that that's [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► for sure [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► I wonder if that will be different but [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► anyway um mode that's motion on the [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► front of the one-dollar wager from the [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► last episode but no no decision yet [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► because obviously this is not a shipping [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► version that brings it doesn't really [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► matter what's in it and be what's in it [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► is a switch that does nothing and so on [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► the topic on this broader topic we got a [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► lot of feedback about it as you would [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► imagine the law and the tail under the [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► last show I was not telling the feedback [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► but I'm pi wasn't either but I mean [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► impression wise think we'll all agree [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► that there were most of the feedback we [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► heard was from people who agreed with me [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► that doesn't mean I'm not so fast so [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► selecting that but what you don't you [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► agree that i'm said most like its modern [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► context that sounds I agree with I would [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► agree with you with caveats [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► I mean certainly more than fifty percent [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► of the words agreed with you i agree [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► with you by and large I will say that [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► early on for the first couple of days it [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► seemed like it was pretty darn close [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► you were probably in the lead but it was [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► closed and then after that initial wave [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► of people who listen in the first like [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► 48 hours then you just ran away with it [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► and as also not seeing you're also not [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► seeing the feedback was sent directly to [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► well why would people tell you that [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► you're right that's like a trump claim [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► like what I'm hearing from lots of [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► yeah email just me because my email [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► addresses on the web or they had [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► mentioned just mean don't have mentioned [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► the show and I got a lot of that I also [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► don't see the people who were just [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► mentioning you or emailing you so there [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► is that still that dark matter but uh I [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► the ratios that some people who emailed [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► just me [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► seems about the same as the public one [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► that you know anyway this is not is not [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► a is not a democracy the only the only [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► role i think that the feedback plays [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► aside from you know curiosity and [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► audience participation is do is the only [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► data points we have to measure the idea [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► that there could perhaps for example be [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► people out there who use reduce motion [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► for a reason that Casey decides is [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► legitimate and also want to send is [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► right we had several people like that [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► right in to say I'm that person I need [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► to reduce motion for what I believe is a [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► legitimate reason but i want to send [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► lasers and the question might have been [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► maybe there's nobody like that or maybe [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► you know whatever so people chimed in [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► with that opinion to at least give a few [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► data points of those people out there [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► again it doesn't mean anything about [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► whether Apple should have another option [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► and by the way i suggest that they have [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► this option two messages because [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► messages has settings to or if it [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► doesn't it can have them write because [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► you try to add the settings [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► inaccessibility software you need [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► to add a number of like a little options [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► for every single application that wants [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► that we like this place for those [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► settings and send messages now I feel [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► like Apple gets kind of a pass if [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► they're gonna put it in the you know [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► general section of the accessibility [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► section because messages like well that [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► really a nap as a part of the OS or [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► whatever but this is not a scalable [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► solution to you I and my original [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► suggestion was the setting of messages [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► because if you make an application and [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► it has behaviour or whatever that you [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► think you should hide it reduce motion [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► is on but some of them are borderline [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► make the default to hide them because [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► that's a safe default but if you feel [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► like you're taking away too much or that [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► there may be a substantial portion of [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► your audience that wants to modify the [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► behavior that's the perfect opportunity [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► to add setting to your settings to your [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► settings for your application that might [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► reduce motion i also want to XYZ be able [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► to use the rocket launcher or whatever [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► so we'll see how this turns out [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► yeah it was interesting reading the [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► feedback because there were a couple [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► people that seem like they genuine had [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► an accessibility issue and some of them [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► wait in my favorite summon yours [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► the thing that struck me so funny was so [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► many people who were just passionately [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► opposed to the zoom animation oftentimes [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► with no element associated they just [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► freaking hate it and then somehow think [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► that it's okay for that to be off but [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► balloons or lasers to be on like they're [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► entitled to have the exact perfect study [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► automatic liability because there's the [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► problem with this this whole angle which [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► no one really said in the feedback and [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► was hoping someone bring it up but [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► didn't that the problem with with your [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► stance is that it hinges on someone you [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► perhaps in this case being the decider [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► about what is it isn't a quote-unquote [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► legitimate use of accessibility feature [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► once like something you think a [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► clear-cut you're like all this [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► legitimate military you see the you need [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► you don't need but once you have [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► anointed yourself the official authority [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► on what is it isn't what you consider to [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► be a air quotes legitimate accessibility [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► issue you are bringing you your bidding [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► people and it's like there's a gray area [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► in the middle meet you can you can maybe [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► we can all agree on end points but [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► there's a gray area right so I think [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► that's just not a tenable standpoint I [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► obviously think that who cares with that [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► spectrum is that people want to use the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► feature they want to use the feature and [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► totally removing a major features of iOS [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► 10 is a bad idea but I right listen that [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► range you can hear all the stuff again [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► the few points that we did that is [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► really hammer on that much but a lot of [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► people said the feedback is a lot of [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► people are very mad that they can't send [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► the effects right if you have been some [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► fine reduce motion is on for you but you [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► can send them to your friends like its [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► features totally gone I guess people are [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► clear about this [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► you can't send somebody lasers forget [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► about whether you can see them like so [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► you have reduced emotional because you [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► can have a motion on your screen not [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► being able to send them feels punitive [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► right because there's no legit reason [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► for that right and you know and whatever [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► like this [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► yep that's the first version of the [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► operating system it was a point-to-point [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► one or whatever they could change that [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► but that's that's why i feel like you [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► know it can't stand the other thing is [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► about you can't use small text I mean [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► that's not a motion thing at all so [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► there are certain things that you can [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► make arguments against regardless of [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► this debate we're having about whether [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► you need this extra setting but anyway [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► that's a brief rehash of last thing with [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► with well the last episode with [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► hopefully less yelling but either way I [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► think at this point I think at this [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► point we're all just sitting back and [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► waiting and I don't feel particularly [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► compelled by the feedback that that the [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► world is on my side or anything like [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► that because like i said it's a [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► self-selecting group the people who are [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► going to write in are going to be the [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► people who are like all worked up like I [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► was right so it's not a representative [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► sample of anything and i'm assuming most [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► of the people listen to our show are [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► nerds and nerds are the ones who like to [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► have these features and so on and so [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► forth so i probably agree with you Casey [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► that a lot of the people really are like [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► look this is you know I want settings [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► for everything and so on so forth and [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► understand how that's not going to work [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► but in this specific case i think this [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► passes muster as as a case where Apple [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► will actually a switch and I'm hoping [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► these little hints at a potential switch [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► that might do something someday mean [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► that I'm right and by the way final bid [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► on this [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► I did file a radar on filed an [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► enhancement request because it's not a [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► bug there's nothing worse than people [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► file who filed bug request list is like [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► severe bug or if there's not a bug [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► you're asking for an additional feature [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► that doesn't exist its enhancement [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► request is it there's a choice part [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► right there anyway I filed an [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► enhancement request asking for the [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► specific functionality is closed OOP so [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► I didn't feel like I have done my [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► official you know good platform citizen [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► duty [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► and I have done the thing and now I just [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► wait can we get like I filed stickers [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► made like the I voted for radar people [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► should anything to encourage people to [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► do it because obviously it's not a it's [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► a thankless process most of the time is [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► uh is there some way that you could send [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► me that radar number so I can follow [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► radar this is ignored John's ridiculous [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► radar about how he wants to have his [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► cake and eat it too [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► you can do that to go ahead and wants to [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► follow radar it'sit's you can anyone [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► could follow right out of there is a [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► feedback form an apple site somewhere [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► but developer account see that you can [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► get whatever you need whatever like free [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► developer account without giving Apple [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► any money or anything i think if you [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► have an apple ID you can get to the [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► point where you can follow rate as long [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► as that soup is just right John not too [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► hot not too cold not too emotionally not [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► too little motion just right [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► alright so a lot of people in east asia [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► have written to tell us about whether or [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► not the assistive touch thing versus the [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► physical home button is real we get to [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► recap we had said that we had heard or [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► read some reports that people in east [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► asia use the assistive touch feature [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► even if they are fully able-bodied [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► because of various different reasons but [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► the most common one was not wanting to [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► damage a a home button that is [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► considered to be fragile whether or not [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► that's actually true [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► we had a lot of people write in and i [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► would say the overwhelming majority of [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► people that live in east asia or have [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► spent significant time in east asia have [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► written into say yes this is a thing and [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► generally speaking it's either about [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► keeping something very expensive in good [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► tip top shape or because there is a [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► phobia of breaking your home button in [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► the same way that Americans seem to be [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► convinced that force quitting apps as [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► helpful as a little overwhelming [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► majority of its I think we didn't get a [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► single piece of feedback that that [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► contradicted what we set all only buried [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► with the only thing that vary with the [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► percentages ok like that some people [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► said like it'sit's ninety percent I see [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► it all the time it's like twenty percent [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► but nobody said hey those articles you [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► read we're totally not represented not a [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► single person so I'm I'm gonna you know [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► put a confirmed stamp on this once [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► for injured people who report to live [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► there who send email and tweets to our [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► podcast that article is it's a real [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► thing yeah there were some really good [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► reasons for it i mean you know that you [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► mention case like a lot of a lot of [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► times too because you know these devices [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► these are expensive devices and [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► depending on where you live it could be [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► relatively more or less expensive [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► compared to like you know typical life [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► expenses there and so it really is a [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► thing where people want to like protect [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► this thing that they've heard wears out [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► or that they had an iphone before and it [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► did wear out and they had to like get an [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► expensive service because you know not [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► everyone just want an apple store where [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► they are and get a get a replacement for [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► free like a lot of times there's more [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► involved processes lot of these places [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► there are no apple stores nearby and you [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► have to like mail it somewhere and that [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► might be expensive and very [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► time-consuming you know there's there [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► were lots of good reasons why basically [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► for a lot of people getting an iphone [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► with a failed part serviced is a is a [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► big you know ordeal or expense or both [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► and so there were a number of iphones i [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► would say at least the 4 and 4s and [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► maybe even five where the home buttons [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► did wear out for a lot of people it was [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► a widespread problem and so you know [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► there-there's basis for this like [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► there's a very good reason why people [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► have this what i thought was very [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► interesting about this feedback also is [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► that many people said that turning on [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► assistive touch is like the routine [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► thing for the phone sales people do as [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► they set up your phone with you before [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► you even go home with it so you're [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► walking out of the cell phone store with [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► it already enabled because the person [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► they're either did it for you didn't [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► even mention it or explain to you why [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► you should always use this thing and [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► then turn it on for you [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► yeah i thought that was fascinating and [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► for the people for the people who are [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► site of those reasons by the way we had [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► variations in the feedback i think we [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► had some objections to the idea that it [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► was about resale value that it wasn't as [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► mercenary is that it's just like they [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► don't want a broken things like Marco [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► said they don't want a broken thing [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► because it's a pain for them to get it [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► fixed either it's expensive or did you [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► know it's just more of a pain right so [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► it wasn't like people like I'm never [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► gonna sell my phone but I still do this [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► it's really really coming [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► to the most of these people like this is [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► another example of humans being bad [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► addresses risk assessment and and good [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► at pattern matching gone awry a little [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► bit because if you're never going to [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► resell your phone and if you're never [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► going to touch the home button doesn't [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► matter if it's broke [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► you know what I mean like logically [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► speaking if you're never gonna use the [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► home button and you're never gonna give [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► it to anybody uses the home button then [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► why you worried about wearing up home [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► button because no one's ever going to [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► touch the home button use it until it [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► breaks and use assistive touch and the [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► reason i suggest this for the most part [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► is because i think having such a long [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► time is a little bit of a burden that's [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► my that that's what I would think about [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► you because you have this thing that's [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► on the screen and you're always moving [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► around to get out of the way that is [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► always on top now to counter that many [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► people wrote in to say actually [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► assistive touch is awesome it's an [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► advantage [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► it's not it's not a burden that I have [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► to move out of the way or rather that [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► burden is counteracted by the abilities [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► that I have with this is a touch that I [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► don't have without it i've never even [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► heard of these things but apparently [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► people love the idea that they can sort [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► of use features that would be harder to [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► access that they did not assist attached [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► because history is always on top and you [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► can do all sorts of stuff from it that [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► you can sometimes that you can't do it [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► all one person is saying that you can [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► turn off the shutter sound for the the [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► camera that apparently you can't do it [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► all without this feature but just having [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► quick access to the functions that are [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► revealed under it makes it worth having [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► on the screen all the time [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► well that no apparently it's a lot [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► faster once you get good at it [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► people were saying just having it right [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► where your thumb is rather than having [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► to reach and I know people start to roll [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► their eyes but I'm being serious [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► rather than having to reach down to the [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► bottom of the phone to the home button [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► having that little white orb just [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► hanging out right there is in many cases [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► faster and I'm just as we're recording [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► looking at the assistive touch setup so [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► it's General accessibility or if you're [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► John siracusa just random customizations [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► you'd like to make assistive touch but [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► then you can turn it on you can [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► customize the things that are there so [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► the the defaults on my phone or [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► notification center device whatever that [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► means control center home in Serie but [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► you can add or remove the number of [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► icons i presume I can't yet I [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► nikon to change there's all sorts of [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► different things you can do including [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► take a screenshot for example so it is [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► pretty cool [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► what's available i still find this to be [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► an annoyance for me because i'm lucky [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► enough to be able bodied and not have to [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► have it but I can see why someone who [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► was perhaps used to it or just assumes [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► like this is the way it's supposed to be [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► I can see how would become inconvenient [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► need to have it around the orientation [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► lock is the one that kind of turn my [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► head I'm like you I wish I missed the [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► orientation lock iPads you know like [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► Manning orientational even though it's [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► just in control center in your you know [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► it's not that far away but you know some [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► apps you do the double click to get it [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► up and anyway it if it was always [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► available like if you if you get what [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► I'm saying is if you get used to having [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► it there it's like it's the cultural [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► thing to do because that's what this is [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► not a technical thing and this is not [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► not even a preference thing one at the [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► point where where the person you buy [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► your phone from is setting up for you [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► but it's a cultural thing at that point [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► is no longer anything to do with [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► personal preference let alone [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► accessibility so fine a cultural thing [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► to have this thing on and hopefully [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► there are some advantages and there are [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► like it'sit's breathing a set of users [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► who are good-looking that little puck [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► around the screen and who each person [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► customize it to do the features that [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► they want to have quickly accessible the [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► cost is that they're fucking this little [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► thing around the screen that's on top [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► now i would say to the people who care [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► because maybe you don't maybe you're [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► happy like this is the way we do it all [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► here and this is just how you use it on [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► camera today about that's fine but i [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► would say try it without assistive touch [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► use the home button until it breaks [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► once the brakes go back to assistive [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► touch if you're not resetting your phone [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► I feel like that may give you a glimpse [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► at how i can speak over the US but how I [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► think most people in the US are using [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► iOS and I guess the US side it is maybe [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► try assistive touch see what everyone [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► else is doing smooching that little puck [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► around the screen to get out of the way [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► the stuff they're trying to read and see [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► if you think it's an advantage maybe you [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► get into a habit of leaving it right [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► into your thumb I you know whatever [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► group you have on your phone that could [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► be a good thing but it's hard for me to [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► get away from the notion that people are [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► badly bad be miss assessing the risk of [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► breaking home buttons on the current [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► iphones even on the floor i would say [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► universally using assistive touch for [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► fear of home button breakage is a [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► terrible decision [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► rationality wise but if you set that [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► aside and say whatever let's just [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► pretend they're doing this you know [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► they're there can be advantages and I [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► think it's something that apple will [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► have to I mean maybe they already are [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► what we talked about last time maybe [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► they're looking at business that's why [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► they made the home button doesnt move [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► but that Apple have to think about if [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► they're ever going towards this mythical [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► home button that we've discussed where [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► like the hopeful iphone screen and you [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► just put your fingers on the screen for [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► touch ID and the home button is on the [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► screen like the the full screen iphone [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► that Bobby maybe that's not gonna be [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► next year maybe next year is just going [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► to bring in the margins on the phone [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► right but everyone's been talking about [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► for years and years but it was all just [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► screaming and the home button was a [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► screen there remember in the early days [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► the iphone was basically religion [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► amongst the the Apple nerds like no [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► don't you understand the genius of the [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► one physical button and it's true that [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► was genius but things evolve yeah we [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► also we also something that was the one [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► best screen size that we would always [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► keep this speak for yourself i'm saying [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► that I'm saying the apple into all wrong [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► as always include myself but not but yet [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► like things have their time in place [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► right that the things of all the right [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► you think of a good example of that is [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► even Apple had to eventually concede to [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► the notion of right-click like they [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► don't put two buttons on their mice but [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► you can right-click on right so things [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► do evolve then it's best not to be [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► stubborn like Apple is by not putting a [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► legit right click button on their mice [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► and making me with your other finger [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► which is annoying anyway things do [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► evolve and it could be that the phones [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► eventually evolved to the point where [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► they're all screen and they do have off [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► the point where off-screen guess what [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► entire section of the globe has been [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► practicing for years and years using a [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► phone entirely touching the screen [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► without touching the home button [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► yeah and so maybe they can learn [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► something from the use of assistive [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► touch over there to influence how not to [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► screw this up when they finally take [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► away the home button entirely and marcos [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► ballistic [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► I'll be fine i mean the the current the [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► one of the seven already is mediocre so [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► it's fine [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► easing you into it there is a small [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► degrees of anger is something we know [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► what the headphone jack it's like yeah [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► okay now like here's what we're gonna do [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► they're going to start leaking to the [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► wall street journal and Bloomberg in [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► February that the next iPhone is not [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► going to have a home button at all and [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► it will be all screen and then we'll all [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► get mad about it over the summer and [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► by the time the fall comes around [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► everyone would be like died has no home [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► button that's old news yeah I think [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► you've got a while to go on that I think [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► my my based on nothing [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► my impression is that the were not there [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► yet for the touch ID like to go to go [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► through the screen yeah there was a [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► patent about a few years back but it [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► that's that's a whole different thing [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► for being able to ship a billion is [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► using especially since next year's [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► iphone is oled right so i think next [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► year is all about oled and in the screen [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► and getting everything tucked in there i [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► think they can't do all that at the same [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► time as they figure out some magical [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► technology to bury touch ID under it so [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► i'm gonna guess based on nothing next [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► year's oled but touch ID will not be on [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► the screen [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► yeah i mean and in all fairness like [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► pretty much every other manufacturer has [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► figure out how to put sensors on the [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► back of the phone and I I always assume [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► that would be bad and weird but for [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► people who actually use them they seem [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► to be okay with it so maybe that could [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► be another solution the whole back of [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► the phone speed camera not touch sensor [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► right now the whole back of the phone is [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► a fingerprint what he called like the [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► things of the police station they take [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► your fingerprints [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► exactly that's why you can affect it is [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► already covered in fingerprints model [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► using touch ID ID you want to meet your [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► finger there tho unlock automatically [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► just from the leftover finger greece in [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► response to this week by betterment it [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► is never too late to save for retirement [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► where are your other financial goals and [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► financial services industry has embraced [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► technology with the entry of automated [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► investing and robo advisor services now [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► betterment is the largest independent [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► automated investing service out there [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► you probably hearing a lot about them in [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► TechCrunch the wall street journal and [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► other major news outlets better makes [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► betterment makes it easier more [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► straightforward and less expensive to [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► invest betterment is built on smarter [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► cutting-edge technology to bring [TS]

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00:23:33 ◼   ► advice all at a lower cost the more [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► traditional financial services more than [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► a hundred and seventy-five thousand [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► customers choose betterments advanced [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► advice algorithms and beautiful user [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► interface to manage over five billion of [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► their dollars [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► this is the perfect time you started [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► with betterment and get started saving [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► for retirement or meeting or other [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► financial goals [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► atv listeners can get up to six months [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► of no fees [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► learn more at betterment dot-com / ATP [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► that's a better mint.com / ATP [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► betterment investing made better [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► moving on Scott O'Reilly who is creator [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► of the dash prior sponsor the show he [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► made a discovery few days back he was I [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► guess listening to regular headphones [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► with the Lightning to headphone adapter [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► and had pause his headphones on board [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► policies i should say pause the phone [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► and whatever was playing he came back [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► after five minutes and he couldn't use [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► the little bulbus strongly thing on his [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► headphones in order to restart audio so [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► you don't get into this little bit now [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► eventually made a truly wonderful [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► demonstration video which will link in [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► the show notes where he left a recording [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► for you know sum total of like six or [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► seven minutes but basically played a [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► little bit i believe our show paused it [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► by way of the headphones and then let it [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► sit for five minutes came back and sure [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► enough when he tried via the headphones [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► on pause it it didn't work and so this [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► was quite a brouhaha because when a new [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► phone comes out that's what everyone [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► goes looking for and somewhere although [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► i don't have a link handy at the moment [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► and we'll put something in the show [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► notes will find it later [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► apparently apple is said to someone [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► someway somehow that yeah this is a bug [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► we're going to fix it [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► yeah and any TP tipster said earlier in [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► the check whatever it's worth that we [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► should probably expect a 1002 update [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► roughly in a week or two but here i [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► think it next week that will fix that [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► bug along with the the microphone [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► cutting out bug that has hit both me and [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► tiff during phone calls and a bunch of [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► other little bugs so hopefully this will [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► be fixed quickly it's good to get that [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► feedback too because especially with the [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► lighting headphones over like we don't [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► know what the rules are this new right [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► by this headphone port lyst future like [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► is this like is to say people like this [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► a battery or is this a feature that [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► supposed to be there was like it was so [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► nice to hear very quickly from Apple [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► sources through whatever means they have [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► like no it's just it's not supposed to [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► work that way they'll fix it hopefully [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► they will actually fix it because of [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► this ends up being like I will try to [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► fix it again every point releasing it [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► keeps being wonky that's going to be bad [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► but anyway it's not if they're not [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► supposed to work like this it's not a a [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► feature that's like well now you can [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► have the headphone port I'm sorry pause [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► too long it's gone [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► I love the idea of ATP tipster as like a [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► PR outlet for apple [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► well to be fair the ATP tips are just [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► provided us a link to 95 Mac where it's [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► where the headline examples of fixes [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► coming for lightning headphones bug that [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► causes playback controls to stop working [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► apparently they made the statement [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► originally though to business insider [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► and something tells me I will [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► yes as much as it pains me feels like [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► that there's any other site they talked [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► to at least they talked to my mordow XXX [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► than anybody else and everyone else [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► report on the business insider article [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► hate when that happens that's the worst [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► alright alright moving on but that was a [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► very interesting fine by Scott O'Reilly [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► and I was i I was really pleased to see [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► a demo video the end it wasn't [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► sensational it wasn't look at me talking [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► for 20 minutes about how awful this is [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► it was just very plain as day i'm going [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► to show you what happens make of it what [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► you will [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► so well done Skylanders very failure to [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► communicate and tweets though because [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► that was the problem like over here [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► originally tweeted yeah you were like I [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► tried to do that doesn't happen for me [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► it was like it was reading comprehension [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► and and difficulty of finding a thought [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► in 240 characters or whatever it is with [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► the new limit rules because it was like [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► it doesn't happen to me and like what [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► are you playing the song and then it [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► cuts out after five minutes or you like [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► people didn't understand what's going on [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► a video is just the most straightforward [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► way to say this is what I'm doing look [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► here it is and then then everyone [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► finally understood what he was talking [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► about and then everyone can see that [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► this is a real thing that happens [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► yeah I didn't understand either and I [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► thought he meant with any sort of [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► headphones i tried with my lightning [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► ones i got this works great what are you [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► talking about then turns out it was the [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► adapter that was the problem so fair [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► enough [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► speaking of this isn't in the show notes [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► here but we should probably talk about [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► apparently the teardown the teardown has [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► been done and there is a [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► digital-to-analog converter in the [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► Lightning to 3.5 millimeter headphone [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► adapter [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► yep it's basically exactly what we [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► speculated last time which was yes [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► there's probably a little tiny a camp in [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► the headphone adapter because that's [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► just easier and they're really cheap and [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► it's probably at the at the Lightning [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► end of the cable and sure enough the [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► editor and verifies all that is exactly [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► the case [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► nothing really exciting here you're [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► still confused about this last show i [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► was talking [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► specifically about the lighting [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► earphones obviously it's enlightening [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► and on on the adapter but just the plan [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► all your phones that don't have an [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► adapter the ones that come in the box [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► that's the you know strangely funny part [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► is that you know that the promise [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► digital audio is that the digital signal [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► will get a couple of millimeters out of [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► your phone you already getting but [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► obviously is gonna get converted by the [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► adapter but even the headphones looks [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► like which makes sense because they're [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► gonna use the same little you know [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► little lightning connector end the [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► headphones the audio turns analog as [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► soon as it hits the adapter and then is [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► just plain old dirty analog signals [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► going over those wires here your pods [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► which apparently don't have any little [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► dachshund looking at the size of these [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► chips it seems like they couldn't fit [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► into your pots they want to but then I [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► get to when you can just have one why [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► improve the quality over the wire to [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► those terrible earpods yeah I know it's [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► not doesn't make a difference it's just [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► you know although from what I understand [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► i've read conflicting reviews on this [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► from people who have tested out the new [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► air pods but most i read a couple of you [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► said they sound exactly like it was just [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► a wireless version of the wired ones [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► that we've had for years we could be [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► pretty disappointing because the wired [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► one sound terrible but most of the [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► reviews have said they sound notice will [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► be better so I i'm actually now curious [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► about them and I i do i I have my doubts [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► whether they will fit me at all whether [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► I'll be able to wear them comfortably [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► but some people have said that they [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► could never comfortably wear the other [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► ones but these are not comfortable to [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► them so I'm interested [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► yeah I bread i've read that as well too [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► and i don't i don't understand that [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► because every picture like they look the [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► same is there something is there a scale [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► thing on the picture is a perspective [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► well part of it could be like if if the [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► weight of the wire realize you're [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► pulling on that yeah like that could [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► affect how it fits for you in practice [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► but I don't know I i think it's unlikely [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► i will end up liking them and me if I [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► hate them all just giving the tiff but [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► she wears those your part sometimes so [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► that that's fine i should probably test [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► all the police headphones exist in the [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► world anyway for my headphone review but [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► yeah basically i'm curious about them [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► everyone says they work really well i'm [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► pretty happy with my bluetooth [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► headphones my little sennheiser [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► bluetooth things but you know if worse [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► comes to worse like i said i get some to [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► review I my one my one reservation [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► on-air apology i think every review is [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► pointed out so far and many people too [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► and as well who are speculating about it [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► i do think that it will be annoying to [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► not have any kind of meaningful remote [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► control ability on the mix-up either [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► Siri or play/pause like to not have an [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► easy volume control your watch [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► but that's still not as fast as reaching [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► out like you're hitting a button and [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► you're not my watch [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► well that's that's the bed you made [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► yourself he even with the Apple watch by [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► the way on my watch telling the time a [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► hundred times a day is way faster than [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► having your Apple watch it also does [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► need to be charged ever but anyway [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► that's that then you may kiss me to buy [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► a winder for it and it wasn't for the [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► ones i was wearing that's something [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► that's the best part is that that's [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► really a thing you can get your watch [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► case with an automatic winder it's [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► totally optional totally barbaric also [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► hire man named Jesus to win them for [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► that sounds amazing you ask him stuff to [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► an attack or non tech or however you [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► pronounce this reports on a chip works [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► report that says there's three audio [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► amps in the phone and so there they say [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► this is a non-tech antec however you [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► pronounce that one interesting aspect of [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► the chip works report is that they [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► unexpectedly found a third audio [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► amplifier to purchase was expecting to [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► find two one for each of the speakers [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► that came up with the third the firm [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► believes that this is that third amp [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► maybe for headphones which in turn would [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► mean that Apple significantly revised [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► lightning pulley ports but wolf [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► significantly revised the Lightning port [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► specification for the iphone 7 [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► previously Lightning has only carry [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► digital audio which doesn't require an [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► amp in the phone itself in the initial [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► iphone 7 announcement I'd speculated [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► that Apple put the deck and amp inside [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► there's three point five millimeter [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► adapter which we now know is true which [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► would be consistent with how things work [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► for over the last four years but this [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► cast doubt on that area or on that idea [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► so now this was written before this [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► teardown that we were just speaking of [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► so why the third amp then obviously it's [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► because it's easier to put that in there [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► and then you can make a go no-go on the [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► head for important mobile at any time [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► that's my guess like this three and the [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► three and then and there is three in the [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► success right or there would be you know [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► there would be one for the head for not [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► sorry because there's only one speaker [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► but I what you know to me like it's [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► therefore the headphone jack that's not [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► that's totally yes I mean do you [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► remember what was it that was like it [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► and ipod touch or something that [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► did your heart you saw the missed a call [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► for where the thing was supposed to be [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► this is just part of hardware [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► manufacturer you cover your bets those [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► those little chips cost nothing if they [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► have the space for it they're gonna put [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► it there so they have the option once [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► they finalize the spec and all the [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► electrical you know the global that's my [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► guess [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► unless they were just totally wrong miss [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► the unified ship almost is used for some [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► of the purpose someone an apple hardware [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► can tell us but it's totally plausible [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► to me that there's a thing they put [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► their that didn't happen to use I mean [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► it's also possible like the second one [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► could be used for the second speaker [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► like they might not be running 1am to [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► drive two speakers maybe they have one [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► in each of them for various you know [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► electrical convenience reasons or you [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► know better [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► cable routing or less powerful i said [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► this this three of them right well one [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► for each speaker and 140 yeah I guess [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► Sam math is hard [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► well it could be for the microphone i [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► mean you know it the these things are so [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► cheap and like anything you're running [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► analog audio traces on a circuit board [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► in a digital device full of various you [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► know interference sources you have to be [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► pretty careful where you can run those [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► without picking up noise and other [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► problems on on the analog signals and [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► because these old a camp chips are so [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► tiny and so dirt cheap you can basically [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► put them wherever you feel like wherever [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► it's convenient for the rest of your [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► needs so if if it's most convenient to [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► have another one for the microphone and [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► not use the same one that is used by the [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► by the the bottom speaker that they can [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► do that it's really no big deal these [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► these chips are tiny and and costs [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► nothing anyway if everything goes to [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► figure out whether the adapters use a [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► DAC the best way to do it was dope [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► attacks that's what people did although [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► i still people have opened them up and [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► melt all the plastic and seeing the [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► little number on the chips but because [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► Apple uses so many custom things are you [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► don't know if anyone has track that [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► number down said definitively this is a [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► damn thing but that's what everyone [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► believes it to be and it totally makes [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► sense so i would consider this mouse [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► that matter settled until somebody says [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► wait wait wait that ship actually isn't [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► doing what you think it is [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► alright so John you are seem to be [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► claiming by way of the show notes and [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► links to Twitter that you are some i [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► clairvoyant would you like to talk about [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► no I just thinking about like I think [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► about the jet-black phone because I you [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► know I'm still I'm still on in the [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► deciding mode over there any chat black [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► or not [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► we're gonna use about a case and anyway [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► I gotta say it like i said i gotta see [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► it in person and so on so forth but [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► people at the face now where people have [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► the jet black I phones and our posting [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► pictures of their various scratches or [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► in the case of christina warren their [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► gigantic dense and saying this is what a [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► gyp like I was gonna look like a [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► fingerprint wise or scratches or [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► whatever and I have to decide you know [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► whether that's worth it to me and so on [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► so forth and it made me think again [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► about a topic that I every visited in [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► past podcast and I tried to do some [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► research I was like is there an episode [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► where I talked about this and do my [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► research and found out there's like nine [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► hundred episodes we're talking about [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► that I talked about all the time for [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► like cumulatively hours so you know it's [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► good that I remember my past as well but [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► anyway because I did all the research [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► i'm not going to bore you all with it [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► now will put a bunch of links in the [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► show notes to me talking about the issue [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► of electronics and how they whereas you [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► use them like how when as they get older [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► a little a crappier and you like them [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► less or do they sort of developer a [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► patina or like become familiar and like [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► you you love them more as they age and [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► I'm sort of worn in you know that that [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► dichotomy has been discussed in many but [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► many people on the web and in fact that [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► these early episodes of hypocritical we [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► talk about it i'm deciding a blog post [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► that themselves comes from years earlier [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► and i think the last time it came up you [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► know in our little circle in a big way [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► was with the iphone 5 the original black [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► back and the iphone 5 the Blackwood [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► scratch off and you see the aluminium [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► color and everything that was the the [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► you know the jet-black of the day we're [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► was complaining about the scratches and [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► at that time this is 2012 i tweeted that [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► an iphone with three scratches may look [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► awful but best case and iphone with [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► 5,000 scratches will look like the [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► Millennium Falcon and that was me trying [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► to give my view of like right so wired [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► to scratches like oh no my beautiful [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► perfect you know iphone 5 is now scratch [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► with thousand scratches everyone's the [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► morning fog man looks like a hunk of [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► junk but it's got it where it counts you [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► know like that's it you you love the [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► line Falcon because it looks worn and [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► lived in and everything so that's what I [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► was trying to get at [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► I don't know if the jet black iphone [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► qualifies for that I don't know if any [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► of apples current products do but god I [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► talked about it so much on this podcast [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► so we'll put links will put links to [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► these blog posts some of them by Colvin [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► someone who had that original iphone [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► that was really worn down look super [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► awesome and the links will have time [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► stamps on them using marcos cool [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► overcast timestamp shopping feature that [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► works really well with CBR audio so you [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► can jump directly to the timestamp and [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► listen to me talk about this for a long [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► time and i'll spare you from now at Ryan [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► writes into say the Bluetooth stack [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► almost certainly doesn't bitstream [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► without decoding to PCM first you'd have [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► no volume control market you want to [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► kind of translate that into regular [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► human for me [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► sure so last episode we were talking [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► about Casey your audio file friends they [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► had a concern that in order for audio to [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► be transmitted to bluetooth headphones [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► it was generally being recompressed as [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► and some other kind of lossy format [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► depending on on the headphones on the [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► phone that you know that could be [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► different codecs whether it was the old [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► atps pc thing or whether it was [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► something more advanced like a apt x or [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► AC basically it ate any audio sent to [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► bluetooth headphones is being encoded in [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► some kind of lossy format in order to [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► make that transmission happen in a [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► practical way and so one of the options [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► that John you'd asked about was what if [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► if you have an AAC audio source and you [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► have headphones and a phone that can [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► transmit over bluetooth in the AAC [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► format would there be some kind of [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► intelligence there that could just like [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► pass it through untouched so it wouldn't [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► be decoding it and then re-encoding it [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► and you know and possibly occurring [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► quality loss there and at ryans pointing [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► out here that uh basically if you don't [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► decode it and then resend recoded back [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► to the headphones if you don't do that [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► you generally can't adjust the volume [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► and that's typically not entirely true [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► there are like it in the way the files [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► are represented in the way audio is [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► represented in these losses forms it is [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► actually possible in many cases [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► depending on the format to adjust the [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► volume without transcoding it basically [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► to actually modified the encoded [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► compressed data because a lot of times [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► it's represented as like frequency [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► volume frequency volume and so you can [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► just like drop those volume values now [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► it's not it doesn't you can always do it [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► depending on the exact encoding but it [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► is tech [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► really possible to do that in some cases [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► however that's a lot of complexity in [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► addition to all the other complexity [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► involved in passing this bit stream [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► through on modified or minimally [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► modified without decoding 22 regular [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► samples first so basically this isn't [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► happening and it's also point out a [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► friend of the show Mark Edwards from [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► Django software makers of the amazing [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► istat menus at which everyone here [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► except John uses true stories if he's an [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► audio file and one of the good ones and [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► and he and I had a Twitter exchange [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► earlier basically you know my position [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► last episode on whether bluetooth lossy [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► codecs matter [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► my position is basically bluetooth [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► headphones have such mediocre headphone [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► drivers like the actual speaker parts of [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► the headphones there so mediocre on [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► almost everything is out there that the [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► idea that like that whatever quality [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► loss you might incur bye-bye effectively [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► double encoding your music would be [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► undetectable compared to the poor [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► quality of the headphones themselves [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► that you need better quality headphones [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► to to really hear that difference and so [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► mark took me to task for that [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► understandably he's right you know that [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► that is kind of a separate issue like [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► have bluetooth headphones could get [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► better maybe the reason they don't have [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► better drivers because when you put [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► better drivers including bluetooth [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► headphones maybe a soundcraft because [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► the double coat so that is totally valid [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► counter-argument to what I was saying we [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► should definitely consider but thanks to [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► mark my words for pointing that out he's [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► right it is possible this is audible and [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► Mabel Mabel do some experiments some [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► experiments and try but the bigger [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► problem right now is that bluetooth [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► headphones are generally pretty mediocre [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► sounding so if this is a problem we [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► can't tell one more thing on the bit [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► streaming the solution to that if they [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► wanted a bit streams you gotta put the [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► volume control on the headphones and [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► obviously that's not going to work on [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► little tiny earpods but if you had big [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► honkin headphones you can bitstream to [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► them and the deck would be in the [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► headphones and the volume control could [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► also be there in theory [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► not that I think they're gonna do that [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► but many bluetooth headphones have [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► volume control built in and it's kind of [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► like one of the ways that they differ is [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► like some of them the when you push the [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► volume buttons on the headphone it just [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► controls the source devices logical [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► volume for that headphone so like it [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► basically you have one unified volume [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► control if you push the button on the [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► headphone it's not like doing that [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► reduction in the headphone it send the [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► command to the phone saying hey drop [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► your volume by one increment or whatever [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► so some headphones do that and some [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► especially older ones maintain their own [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► volume control in addition to the [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► phone's volume control which is it [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► allows more control but also kind of [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► annoying like if the phone is set really [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► low and you keep pushing up on the [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► headphones [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► it's like next out and you can tell why [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► it's too quiet so it's kind of annoying [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► there but anyway it usually having one [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► unified volume control being you know [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► the headphone controls are actually [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► telling the phone what to do that is [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► generally better which would have this [TS]

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00:42:46 ◼   ► to read their script but they can't pay [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► me to say that I use it and i love it i [TS]

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00:44:20 ◼   ► should talk about what phones we have in [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► the process by which we retrieve them [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► and since i got so angry John last [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► episode about his preposterous claim [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► that accessibility is also his personal [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► private stereo said if you're not my [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► claim you would tell me again that I [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► think the default should be different [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► because you seem to be stuck on that one [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► for a while do to help just I'm just [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► pokin so I think this is the time when [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► Mark when I get angry at each other but [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► we need to meander to that what did you [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► end up getting Marco and and why were [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► you on the news exactly [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► ok so i was on my of what we went to go [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► we have been in-store pickup to get tips [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► phone as i mentioned last week I had [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► some order trouble and then some [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► waffling and then some more trouble with [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► the waffling order and so basically i [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► was unable to make an online order for [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► what ended up ordering which was a [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► jet-black regular size seven anyway we [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► so we went to pick up tips on day one [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► mine was gonna be ready on day one was [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► gonna be like you know mid-october or [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► something and have it just so happened [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► that while we were waiting on line a [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► local news anchor wanted to do a segment [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► on the incredibly long lines at apple [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► stores meanwhile the line wasn't long at [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► all but that's beside the point [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► obviously the news they're gonna do [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► whatever they want anyway to pick up the [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► truth so the news anchor just ask the [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► people who were right in front of her [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► which happened to be me and another guy [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► she's asked us like he would be willing [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► to go on camera live for the local news [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► and tell you know why we're reading [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► online what our favorite features the [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► new iphone are and whatever else and we [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► said sure and there you know there are [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► no questions asked besides that you did [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► she didn't ask what you're going to say [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► well she did but tonight i lied i said i [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► was talking about the camera how great [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► was the better she wanted to restore [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► your story changes should NASA we're [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► gonna say well she did ask me [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► yes but she kind of prompted us with [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► like what she wanted us to save you know [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► in in the journalist standard of like [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► implying like here's what you use I want [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► to hear so and she didn't ask who we [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► were anything she didn't know that I was [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► like an apple person in some capacity [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► like she had no idea didn't matter they [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► didn't come up so fine so that turns the [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► camera on and I give the more sarcastic [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► answer then I think everybody was [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► expecting and it was fun [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► so we can pick up this phone it was fun [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► it's fine [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► get back whatever so I in the middle and [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► bottom so what did tiff end up with [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► which model regular-sized gold [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► meanwhile here i am I when I went to the [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► store i was able to finally see and pick [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► up and and feel both of the black models [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► and I decided right then [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► oh my god I have to have the jet black [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► because it it the way it feels it is so [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► like if like me you have been out there [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► unhappy with the 6 and 6s because they [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► are slippery and they're hard to hold [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► without a case you want the jet black [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► iphone 7 because it feels like the the [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► back of it feels even more grippy than [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► the screen like if you put your hand on [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► glass and you feel the glass screen that [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► that is a grittier like your hand like [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► sticks to it better than it does to the [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► to the slippery aluminum back of the [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► phone on the jet black the opposite the [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► jet black the phone is even creepier [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► than the screen it is so it feels about [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► his groupie as like the old plastic [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► phones did or the or the iphone 5 [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► ceiling of the only kind of newest one [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► you know very very grippy very easy to [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► hold the fact that it looks really cool [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► at you know in from most angles and in [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► most conditions that to me is secondary [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► I don't care how the back of the phone [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► looks really i mean i've lived with with [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► an ugly back phone for the last two [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► years i think the six incidents because [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► i'm mateus from the back you know and [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► and for the success i ended up using one [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► of these debrand vinyl skins for the [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► second half of my ownership of it to [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► cover up half the back just to give it a [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► little more grip the jet black 7 is even [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► creepier than that d-brane vinyl skin [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► was like it's so nice and grippy so I [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► immediately thought I don't care how [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► quickly this thing scratches how bad it [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► looks I look at the back of my phone i'm [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► using it but I'm always feeling the back [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► of my phone [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► i'm using it so grip matters more to me [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► than looks so of course I go home and [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► try to get a jet-black phone and I'm [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► going through like ebay and everything [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► and it's just a disaster like trying to [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► buy anything ever on ebay or sell it for [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► that matter is always a bit of a [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► disaster ebay is it just a horrible [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► place full of horrible people trying to [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► scam each other with ebay being one of [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► those people trying to scam the [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► customers anyway it's it's wonderful [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► so that's it was a mess trying it on [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► ebay i did try a bit in a few but they [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► were there you know that the phone I [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► wanted retailed for like after-tax about [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► eight hundred dollars and they were [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► going to ebay for like 1200 up so like I [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► don't really want to spend like four [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► hundred extra dollars just for the [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► privilege of getting a little bit sooner [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► like I start talking about on twitter [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► and and i was contacted by a guy named [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► Chris handset Chris Hansen he's the [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► author of death note software so i [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► should give them a plug he really went [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► above and beyond here it's def notes [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► like the bird of know.com / pace is his [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► is a main app it's an app called pace [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► let you take breaks on on the mac while [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► you're working it's pretty cool [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► chris from does note software kind of me [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► on Twitter and he said hey I have a jet [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► black one that i just opened I decided I [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► didn't want that color so I'm going to [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► return it but if you want to sell to you [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► at cost [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► wow this is pretty cool that is super [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► cool if you want to sell on ebay he [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► couldn't give me 400 bucks right but he [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► didn't you he was a fan of the show he [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► wanted you wanted me to help me out [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► awesome and the box comes i'm signing [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► forward with my UPS driver and I'm like [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► this is really light box seems like is [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► there really a phone in here like did he [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► like not DD like just sound like the [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► phone itself and not the packaging maybe [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► like not like it feels really light and [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► even the UPS drivers like yeah there's [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► there's no phone in here it's way too [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► light like okay so i go inside open it [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► up and kind of go fish through it and [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► it's full of packing peanuts and only [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► packing peanuts [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► oh no and the packing slip with the [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► phone you know the Apple packing slip [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► and a little card from chris saying hey [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► hope you enjoy he's a nice guy and the [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► plastic wrap to an iphone box which you [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► can identify the little green pull-tab [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► arrow on one side [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► no you know Chris like aii yet we have [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► read some common friends was pretty sure [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► he you know he wasn't like the scammer [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► here so I kind of them and I'm like hey [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► yeah we have a problem and he was super [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► great about it so it turns out he had [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► like.he dropped off at the store he has [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► a receipt at the store saying it weighed [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► seven pounds when it left the store [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► oh goodness and it arrives with me [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► waiting nothing and being full attack of [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► the nouns you say yeah go on go on [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► just keep going just plowed bravely had [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► all right yeah haha you know if they're [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► so he merely refund my money and you [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► know I with your life if you have a [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► buyer in this situation if you use [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► paypal and you pay the goods rate not [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► like the sending people cash rate which [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► eliminates the fee [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► look there's a reason you pay those fees [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► those fees cover you as the buyer and [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► when you're buying things you should [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► always do that option of the goods rate [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► weather weather is a fee even for seller [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► makes you pay the fee which is actually [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► I think against paypal streaming service [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► to ask you to do that but regardless [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► even if the seller makes you pay the fee [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► you need to do that way because it [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► protects you in situations like this [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► so anyway he does i don't have to file [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► claims he's a nice guy and he [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► immediately front of the money he's like [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► I'll deal with it because it wasn't sure [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► so he goes and deals with ups and it's [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► still in process but he's he's he's [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► working with them I feel so bad for this [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► guy because like here he was doing me [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► this favor [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► yeah he's trying to do you a solid yes [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► so now we've learned don't send an [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► iphone right during iphone many a time [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► because it and it's like you know it's [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► it's obviously an iphone box because [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► people who like people who work for UPS [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► have seen a billion of these boxes over [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► the last few days and it's he said in [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► the same box that's like the perfect [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► opportunity if you're like you know [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► anyway so it was stolen [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► now now Chris is like stuck dealing with [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► all those insurance crap eps really bad [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► form so please look at his appt pace by [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► definite software make me feel a little [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► that sucks so much so that that I would [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► I was like you know what screw this i am [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► not going to try to buy another phone on [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► the internet like I just trying to get [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► through apple for that would however [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► long it takes [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► I don't care just for you and this i [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► have bought so many things online ebay [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► amazon everywhere else [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► individual sellers people on forums I've [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► bought and sold so many things online [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► this is the first time I've ever had [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► something stolen so I emailed my my [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► business rep at the origin of the the [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► apple retail business rep at my to local [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► stores on monday morning just basically [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► saying you know Brad this little hole [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► happened basically k if there's any kind [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► of waiting list you can put me on [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► anything please you know I could really [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► use one [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► one of the stores said sorry we can't we [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► can't really do it we don't know what [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► we're gonna have no store said yeah I [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► got two right here you want to pick it [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► up right now you need both so I monday i [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► went in on monday Monday around luncheon [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► picked up my brand new jet black iphone [TS]