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you think this is the biggest show of
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the year or you think the WC one is the
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biggest show of the year i think WBC I
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wouldn't say it's by a large margin but
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i think it's a dub dub episode which p.s
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i've noticed myself just in the last six
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to 12 months embracing dub dub which I
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always used to hate so much like that
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the phrasing do you BDU be I always used
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to hate it so much but yeah I've been
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yeah they totally wore me down I
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eye-to-eye-to-eye I'm not usually a
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trendy word shortener but that one it's
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just it's just so clumsy to say WWDC
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that that one just wore me down
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although curiously dub-dub-dub as then
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dubbed caseless com
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I can't do it drives me insane like I'm
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I'm like hunching up as I'm saying it
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because it just drives me so crazy know
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that that is too far that when I was
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willing to wait until we drop that
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prefix foremost domain names
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we're going to talk about the September
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2016 Apple events we are going to try to
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do this in chronological order we will
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probably miss a little bit but here we
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we started out with tim cook and James
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Corden doing carpool karaoke which as
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soon as i saw this i thought oh god oh
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no this is not going to be good
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pleasantly surprised i thought it was
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great I thought Tim did a great job a
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little awkward but i'd have been ten
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times more awkward if i were there could
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sing enough
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I mean he's saying more than Britney
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Spears states that's a thing I thought
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was really well done in a really good
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intro i thought it was the best
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interaction tim has ever shown with a
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celebrity as part of an event that
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happened
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well that's that it's not all very high
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bar but yes i agree why are you afraid
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why are you.why do you think this is
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gonna it's gonna be cringe-worthy just
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because like Tim in bono for example
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it's just not usually good but it was
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great but that's not the same context
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the context is of him onstage having do
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like standout next to like his you know
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his team racing driver tame celebrity
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about you
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it is a bono and I have broken up
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I stand next to him like the context is
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weird where you have to destroy it was
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great guys huh
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look celebrity where you know what we've
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all seen the the carpool karaoke i'm
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assuming and that is a much more relaxed
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environment
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yeah Marcus Peters you don't have to be
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beautiful ever seen carpet never not
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once I mean technically I guess now i
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have seen it once right but i love it
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when this came on you didn't when you
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saw the back of that the SUV you didn't
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immediately know what it was when you
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saw that I sitting behind the wheel
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nothing i asked if the guy was and then
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when the second I got in the car had to
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ask he was too so we need to have some
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kind of pop culture intervention but
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yeah i mean i'm not i am not one to
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really be throwing stones in the
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glasshouse in which I live but holy God
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Marco you need like I don't mean you
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have to see that I mean you don't know
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what the guys name is just know that
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this is the thing and like oh I
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recognize its that thing that I never
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watch but not even that any way that
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environment in a much more relaxed and I
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knew he would do fine i should rewatch
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it because some people are trying to
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find issue with him but I was surprised
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that he would agree to it because the
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people who usually are on that are
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people who want to sort of a unabashedly
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sing in a car but like in front of
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everybody it's like you know dance like
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nobody's watching a carpool karaoke is
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saying like you're in your own car and
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no one can see you but everybody can see
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you because you're on the internet i'm
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assuming Tim Cook must be a fan of that
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and said you know what I'd like to do
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that because if someone who didn't want
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to sing in front of the world was forced
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to do it they would look WAY worse they
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weren't mean I don't I know I would
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never want to do this and I can't
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imagine like faking it to the degree the
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heated so I think he really wanted to be
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on this thing because he likes to sing
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and he have to say
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alright so i thought the internet was
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great I also really liked when was it
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that they did the bill hader
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introduction when he was like doing he
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was directing the big the big show intro
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you know what I'm thinking of the tub
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yeah yeah but this was better because
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this this had this was sort of the
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moment in a way that didn't look like
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they were trying to cash in because i
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think it was just at the right point for
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carpool karaoke where it's not the peak
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but it's not at the beginning is like
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what is not old hat and I really he
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looked like he had genuine enthusiasm
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for being on this thing that he had seen
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other people on and it was
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like relax I know what you're talking
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about the behavior thing was funny but
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that was like more higher budget more
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complicated like this I feel like it was
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just simple it's like a person in a car
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going to see them cook in that context
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it was short i really like that one of
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the one of the best interest to an apple
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event ever
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although it's kind of a shame that it
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was totally unrelated to anything that
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was presented really but that's fine
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the joke that James Corden made about
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how he had heard that the new iphone or
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perhaps was a new version of iOS was the
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most secure have ever and Tim do you
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know where i read that on a leak posted
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and does my least favorite part because
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it shows that the host doesn't
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understand the nuances of what he's
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talking about because it's going to be
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the most secure iphone we know what he
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means when he says that i'm assuming
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it's a plant from like apple or
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something like that to say hey asks
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about the security because it's gonna be
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I'm assuming more secure than the past
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ones learning from their all everything
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they've learned from all the previous
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iphones and all the different FBI court
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orders and everything right but that has
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nothing to do with whether rumors of how
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the phone is being designed leaked onto
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the internet that has nothing to do with
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the security of the phone they're
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totally unrelated except for the fact
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that the word security can be applied to
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both of them will be such a buzzkill
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I'm just saying like it's a typical
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don't you want to make you want to make
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a tech joke but you're not a tech person
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so you think you you think you really
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nailed it hot and funny and I like Tim
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Cook was like do you see the irony in
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that Tim Cook Inlet yes I see the irony
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in that actually i don't because doesn't
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make any sense but I will humor you
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because I know if I have to explain it
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to you that won't work but I'm
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explaining to you because Tim Cook
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wouldn't that joke didn't make any sense
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and therefore with less funny than it
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should have been
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do you need to turn your brain off and
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turn on the emotion ship from time to
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time I thought it was funny i do with
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motion ship good humor makes sense the
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best humor makes sense and it's like
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that's why it's fine because it makes
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sense i love this show
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I do too but I'm gonna kill one or both
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of you by the anything else about him
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and James they had a big opening thing
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about Apple music too
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oh yeah I guess you're right just like
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hey appellees exists it's good you guys
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should try it is your semiannual
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reminders who please subscribe music
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here's how awesome it is
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yeah it's 17 million subscribers or
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something i'm watching thing we're
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right now i'm assuming will comment on
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it almost in real time but that that
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they're pushing it like this is what
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they usually do the beginning of the
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things that they have some feel-good
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stuff some funny stuff and some hey let
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me remind you about whatever it is that
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I'm pushing that we think we've done
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recently that's good we're doing well or
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whatever so happy music is getting the
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push here
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how do you guys feel about music right
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now I haven't used it since the demo
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period ran out at that time I thought it
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was ok but I'm a pretty loyal Spotify
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user and the only thing that Apple music
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brought to me that as a Spotify user
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that I didn't already have was being
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able to play things via serie which I
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did really really like other than that
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I'm really looked back since to be
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honest with you
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yeah i mean iÃve been a subscriber the
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whole time in fact we even have the
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family plan but it's kind of like when
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when i get a netflix disc back in the
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day and back when I was a thing and you
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let the disc SAT there for like three
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months and start realizing how much
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you've effectively paid for that disc
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that's kind of how about Apple music
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like we have membership and I do
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occasionally play something on it but if
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I actually work out like you know how
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much I paid for each one of those tracks
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that I've laid off of it
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it's a I probably shouldn't be using it
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I i think i've determined that i'm just
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not really a stream is a customer
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because most of what i listen to the
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podcast efficient either picture on
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I think I kind of kind of split the
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difference in you guys I I subscribe
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during the trial period i thought i
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would have no interest in it whatsoever
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i was surprised that i actually
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discovered new music with it not that
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they're you know for you and suggestions
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are all that great but that was the
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point where I'm hey I'm trying free
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trial I'm gonna you know put some time
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into going through and I did find some
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music that I like what I did when I
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found that music is that bought it is i
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don't know what's going to continue the
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Apple music trials i just purchased all
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the songs that i found that i liked
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which is nice and then I let the thing
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laughs because Mike yeah doesn't I don't
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use it on a kind of mark i don't i'm not
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a streaming music kind of person and it
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was fairly expensive or something that I
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was just going to let it run in the
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background so I didn't
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now I find myself kind of missing the
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fact that i don't have access to all the
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music that happens it makes available
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sometimes like you know what i like to
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hear some new music
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Nick and I can't because I don't have a
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music but anyway i'm probably not as
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extreme music subscriber my experience
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out in the world with people who are
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string music subscribers i still see
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spot of I having a pretty good hold on
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the kind of like Apple maps where even
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if it's not better than google maps just
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the the competitors just for the sheer
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force of constant promotion and default
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adminius and Syria integration from the
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Apple essentially next thing I believe
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doing some updates but most importantly
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real-time collaborative editing which I
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believe they said was going to be both
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native and web based is that true
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actually that came after Nintendo but a
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lot of slot that say there was a web
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they said you can do this on your mac on
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your iOS devices and even on the web but
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they didn't show any of those things but
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yea is the web the same thing they
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launched two years ago where is like a
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new version based on whatever
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underpinning the stuff i don't know like
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it's hard like what they were demoing in
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some ways is a total Apple move or it's
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like Google that you know home google
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the most the well-known thing we're a
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bunch of people connected document at
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the same time that's just a bunch of
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colored curses in text but we're going
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to do a presentation with graphics and
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look how beautiful the present you know
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it's it's more complicated more visually
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complicated to have multiple people
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doing graphic the same time without
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having like flash and click over each
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other everything is beautifully
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composited multiple people are
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collaborating on this graphic document
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or whatever so that is more impressive
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than just a bunch of curses moving
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around text field but it almost
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everything about I work has always been
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has look nicer visually whether it's on
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the macro even on the web that looks
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really nice but in the end what people
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care about is does it always work is the
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performance good like it simple and
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reliable is better than super fancy and
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not so reliable and thus far all of
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Apple sort of collaborative editing i
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work on the web
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bond all platforms all the same time
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documents thinking crap has been nice to
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look at but ranging from clunky to
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downright broken and I'm abroad broken
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being me
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fruitlessly trying to get my daughter to
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bed at the same document using entirely
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Apple native apps on all the apples
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latest operating system and get we're
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getting repeatedly locked out from
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inability to even save on any platform
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that's the worst case i don't decide
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about this because i haven't tried it
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yet but i can tell you that my
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confidence not hi this is going to take
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the world by storm
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yeah i mean that's a pretty good summary
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like it it remains to be seen basically
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we know that nobody has really had time
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to use this yet the the credibility
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level here is low the expectations are
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low because of that the mediocre and
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poor past performances in this
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department so we'll see what happens
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yeah so maybe we got the order wrong as
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John alluded to but a hell has frozen
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over ish and nintendo and Apple are
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sitting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g pretty
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much the entire internet had the same
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reaction I did which was holy crap is
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John syracuse was still breathing and
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not have it on i did have it on in the
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background but I don't see how this is
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such a big deal for most people because
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like pokemon go i know was a nintendo
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developing it was my antique or whatever
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but it's the nintendos property and like
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that was the the beachhead you know it's
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incredibly popular game based on
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nintendo IP on your phone
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it's not the same as Mario coming to
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your phone but the sort of the big event
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was hey nintendo is finally and we do
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this for months and months and months
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ago where they announce we're going to
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make games for mobile phones right and
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the announcement was not we're going to
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stop making games her own platforms in
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fact we're going to continue making
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platforms we're going to make a new
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platform we don't tell you anything
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about but it's a codename annex and Bob
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lot like they're still doing that but
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they're also doing stuff for phones and
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we knew that for a long time and pokemon
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go shows they're doing some phones and
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their successful added and this is just
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a continuation of that strategy i think
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the impressive thing is that Nintendo
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saw fit to our I don't know I know who's
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pulling is pushing here is intended oh
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come and apple and saying we'd like to
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do this let's work out a deal because
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it's good
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publicity for nintendo to be in this
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presentation right to review and it's
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good for Apple to say which phone
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platform is Mary on first and i assume
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exclusively for some period of time
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anyway our platform like so I would
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imagine that was Apple coming to
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nintendo nintendo was probably receptive
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to the idea that we're already entering
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this phone thing pokemon goes a big hit
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that we sort of outsourced to have some
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of the developer do if we're going to
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bring our crown jewels we want to have
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you know have the best possible
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experience come with the the highest-end
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phone vendor the most successful phone
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vendor the one with the best reputation
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and honestly that there's a better fit
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between Apple and nintendo in terms of
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their philosophy and sort of like kid
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friendliness and how Apple patrols the
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app store and tries to keep it you know
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nice and like that's reminds me a lot of
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nintendo seal of quality right so that I
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think there's a good meeting of the
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minds between these two companies here
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but then to have miyamoto come out as if
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it's like an e3 presentation and
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terrorism do with your presentations
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anymore because there was this intended
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direct stuff to come out onstage himself
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that's that's a pretty big deal
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now i feel bad because he didn't do
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particularly well he always insist on
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saying something English before pulling
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the translator this is not a new thing
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it does this very out frequently but he
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seemed nervous or barely rehearsed or
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both any kind of stumble through his
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presentation but in the end I don't
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think it's not a big deal it's not it's
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not a shock
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we're not shocked that this happen it's
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just a straight line from everything
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that has come before the games that they
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showed are not particularly
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revolutionary it's a runner game with
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Mario and some other things that are
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already known to be well-suited if
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anything pokemon go was a more more
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interesting and daring game then what
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then them at the stuff they showed today
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because I mean not that you know that's
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what was that game before
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pokemon go from the company that made it
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that was the same idea and then brought
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to a important property but it is
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barbarous today we're going to take this
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very important property pokemon and try
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it on a gameplay style that is very
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phone dependent that was not wildly
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successful ingress is what i call it was
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not wildly successful on this previous
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game but maybe the combination
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it'll be good and it was and these
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marriages are even more conservative
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than that you know tried-and-true
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gameplay styles with the crown jewels
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intellectual property for nintendo i'm
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sure will do well I'm not sure will do
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as well as pokemon go because that was
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kind of like a crazed and as we talked
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about before a great time for it because
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the summer and people are outdoors and
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it became a big news story or whatever
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but otherwise i'm happy to see the
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Nintendo continuing to plot along and
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strategy and happy to see perhaps i'm
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assuming they're developing things
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in-house perhaps they could get more of
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the money from this that will help them
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fund the whole rest of their company and
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make sure the NX isn't a piece of crap
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you never use cartridges that's it up
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i'm shocked by what are you guys think
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about it like are you looking forward to
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buying this game with you just not care
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i mean i'll probably buy it I they they
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had made some sort of reference to
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forget how they phrased it but you'll
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have to pay for it and then they kind of
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implied that there wouldn't really be
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any I api for now purchases I forget
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exactly what was said but then I thought
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underscore had noticed that actually
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there will be is he
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I imagine there has to be in by the way
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the last time we talked about pokemon go
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I said that my family was playing it but
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I wasn't and so far they were all
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playing it for free that has passed my
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wife has spent God knows how much money
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on this game that like the whatever
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monetization strategy they have a
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whatever scarce resource is required
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either her play style or the game itself
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leads to you eventually running out of
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some resource that you want and you
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don't want to wait or get it by grinding
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so it's just buys it i think she spent
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like 40 bucks news came probably more
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attractive and look anymore so I mean in
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all fairness like if you had three
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people in your house playing playing a
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single nintendo game
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how much would you spend if it was any
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other Nintendo product perspective has
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been 60 bucks and play it for like
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hundreds of hours like zelda game like
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that's the old yeah but then you also
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have like you know the in your hands you
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burning through like this fifty-dollar
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controller and the for your nunchuck and
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also the garbage to plug into it i mean
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antenna doesn't sell much for less than
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40 bucks right now by dou by dou x
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that's about stuff already like the
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whole idea with the old console thing
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was you
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the console for 500 bucks with all the
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accessories that you by series of six
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dollar games each one gives you what you
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hope to sixty dollars worth of enjoyment
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some games last longer some games
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shorter but it's like you pay 60 bucks
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and you get the whole thing I play
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destiny which is like 60 bucks plus
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twenty or thirty bucks a year for the
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expansions plus the monthly fee for
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playstation network but that still works
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out money wise now c'mon Go the problem
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is it's basically limitless like you
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can't spend that there's a limit to how
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much you can spend on destiny per year
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minus the silver stuff but even that I
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feel like even got a limited mind to
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spend there's not that much to buy in
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the game and everything you can buy in
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the game is cosmetically so if you buy
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every single expansion and you pay for
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PSN you buy your PlayStation there's a
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limit where it's a Pokemon go
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you could spend your entire life savings
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buying pokeballs and using them likes it
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hoping to marry games are like that but
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strategy that people seem comfortable
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the the other propositions even the
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proposition of Destiny which i think is
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striking a reasonable balance of you
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know extracting money from me steadily
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over the course of years but also giving
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me hundreds and hundreds of hours
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entertainment
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mario rajkot to Mario go
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it has a entry page if you will on the
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app store where where you would
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typically see by or get it says notify
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which I've never seen for a nap before
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which I thought was kind of mean this is
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the first so that's different and it
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would be super cool if developers could
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leverage that like not Blessid
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developers but regular smells like us
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could use this to leverage the app store
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to kind of generate a little bit of buzz
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about forthcoming apps if you so chose
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but still that's kinda neat and any
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thoughts on that before i get to my
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other thought so the ibookstore i use
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this form of selling my books has a
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pre-order system where you can put the
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book up and people can't buy it but they
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can pre-order which is even better and
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said it is notifying people was
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available i can give you the money right
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up front and I made a lot on the
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pre-orders because people were anxiously
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awaiting the book most of them
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pre-ordered so like this so this that
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type of thing should come to the iOS
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yeah and then the other interesting
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thing which i think is worth briefly
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mentioning is that they specifically
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said on stage there will be a sticker
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pack for I message that is themed around
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super mario run which is what I think
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they've been pushing it relatively
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heavily since iOS time was announced
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that wld see some curious to see if
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anything comes of that but I thought
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that time was kinda neat sticker packs
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of the new ringtones it's an opportunity
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for lots of tie into the big companies
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and promotions
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I wonder if there will be more strict
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policing of copyright infringement I
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know apple in the passes all that
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specific specifically with Nintendo has
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actually been pretty good about tracking
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down like a very pleased nes emulators
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and Mary are things they still stuck
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through but now that Nintendo itself is
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in the store I is nintendo more
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motivated to have its team of lawyers
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wandering the store and stomping on
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anything that uses Mary on the name uses
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its artwork the million people trying to
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sell sticker perhaps packs that are
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pictures of you know goombas and and
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mushrooms and all the other stuff like
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we're one google search away from trying
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to sell an item and sent sticker pack
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for someone else's IP and now that
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nintendo is actually trying to sell its
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own version of that stuff I imagine it
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will be harder to sneak that stuff
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through if not that's going to be weird
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when you do a search for nintendo
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sticker pack you find a million sticker
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packs and buried somewhere in there
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because Apple such as awful as the real
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nintendo one that will be super-weird
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will see the real-time follow from the
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chat room people are saying that I think
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they're talking about Mario run paid up
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front no in-app purchase that's what is
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what i'm reading the chat room knows mr.
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that's not what it says on the itunes
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store page
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they're gonna be like a trial level
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first for free and then you pay one
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fixed in a purchase price to unlock the
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rest of the game right so it's not like
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the Apple watch and we can start with
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the name I suppose it is now called the
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apple watch series to think season two
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haha let's see what you did there
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I did get that I i really do like this
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name I I don't know what alternatives
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were kicked around i'm not sure what I
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would have recommended but i really like
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the idea of series 2 i'd i don't know
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why i prefer it over just Apple watch
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too but i think i do prefer maybe
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because it's more about fashion than the
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iphone arguably is but two thumbs up the
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name in my opinion what do you guys
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think about the name alone i think it's
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great i mean the Apple that the first
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Apple watch which now has no name
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because it's not the series one that's
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different what you get but the the first
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Apple watch Apple watch series 0 that
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that had a kind of an odd naming
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structure where like you had the apple
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watch sport which is the one everybody
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actually bought you had just the apple
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watch with no modifiers which is the
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steel one which is like the middle one
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which nobody bought and so you have it
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was this weird combo and nobody really
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knew what the call it's the steel one
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and everyone call the sport 1 the apple
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watch even though technically that was
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named a different model and so now
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they're kind of unified the naming now
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it seems from their website that the
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entire series 2 is just called Apple
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watch series 2 there is no more sport or
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steel distinctions alright that's what I
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can find
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I could be wrong but it sure looks like
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they're dropping like the the sport
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distinction and now it's just now
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there's apple watch and you can get the
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Apple watch in steel or all the
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wonderful aluminum colors or the apple
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watch edition still has its own name and
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the Apple watch her meds has its own
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I apologize to the great nation of
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France for how i'm pronouncing her meds
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it's probably wrong and I apologize you
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know the Apple watching nike+ which is
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another weird like another company's
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name gets to define single product
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yeah so if they're basically moving into
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these like you know these these major
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brand affiliations now with like fashion
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sport Branson you know whatever I don't
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think about that world so that probably
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makes sense i can't say but overall
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naming wise
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this is a very I think it's a decent
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update the only weird thing about it
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though is as mentioned earlier so
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there's a series to that's fine
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there's also a series one now this is
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almost the original apple watch but with
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a really major difference and that is go
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with the new Apple watch
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they have upgraded the cpu to end to a
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pretty substantial great now it's a
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dual-core one which is allegedly a lot
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faster but they set up to fifty percent
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so they're probably clock lower who
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knows whatever it is it's a dual core
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model it's a different cpu that is that
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is probably a lot faster in practice and
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therein in what I commend as a great
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move for everybody owners developers
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they have they're basically retro
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actively installing this new cpu in the
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old model as they continue to sell the
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old model which is now called Apple
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watch series one so you can get series 1
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which is just the old Apple watch with a
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faster cpu which is a big difference
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then you can get series 2 which is the
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newest model which is that same cpu but
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with a with a higher grade of
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waterproofing with GPS and a brighter
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screen is that it does that mean it's
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totally different the inside like if you
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looked at the speaker diagram that the
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speaker is different all the insides are
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different for all I know the batteries a
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different size it just looks the same on
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the outside for the most part but inside
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it's basically all knew every part of it
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isn't it wasn't the screen is knew that
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the system on chip thingy whatever is
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the battery's probably knew the speaker
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is new the thing between the dial the
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ceiling like it just looks the same on
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the outside but actually thicker isn't
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actually yes one millimeter thicker it
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went from 11 11 points in a 12-point
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whatever it's kind of like honestly and
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honestly looking for a watch going from
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11-12 is noticeable that is a noticeable
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thickness increases it's unfortunate
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it's still not going to be like talking
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like chunky or anything you know if
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basically if whatever you thought about
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this before you will still think that
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but it is kind of unfortunate i went in
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that direction on one of the products
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number anything so now that product that
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took the 6s and 6s plus and move them
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down they said and by the way put the
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amazing like this is it's kind of like
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watch like we're sorry the first time
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watching somebody was so darn slow but
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you see was supposed to ship way earlier
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but the software wasn't ready so we have
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to hold it back for many months and yada
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yada yada also we didn't have a watch is
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three ready and we didn't quite know
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what we were doing and so just forget
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about that watch second attempt at the
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same watch twice as fast inside watch us
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three just forget about that old one and
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the open i think we'll have sentimental
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value is like is the first watch I
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honestly don't think it was a bad
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product i think it was good hardware
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wise the software they haven't figured
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out yet
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I forgive all that series was it like
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the series one makes me more excited
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than the other ones because basically
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anyone making a watch is app now it
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doesn't have to be like oh I have to
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support the the old watches like I guess
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they do for whoever bought those things
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but like the window has moved up so
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rapidly all of a sudden everybody who
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buys one even if they buy the cheap one
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this holiday season will be way faster
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and watch us three will be way faster to
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so even though they mean is not entirely
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redesigned watching on the camera
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expected it to be but exactly what we
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thought it would be bigger battery used
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to power gps that can be on all the time
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great for workouts and stuff like that
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better waterproofing which is hard for
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me to believe considering how waterproof
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the the other one was and keeping the
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old watch around but not leaving around
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and being crappy so I give us thumbs up
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it's nice that they didn't just keep
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selling the same one without changing it
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just because like the the the first
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Apple watch is really really slow and
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it's good now to be able to go to be
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able to tell somebody to go to go into a
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storage pineapple watch you don't have
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to tell me oh don't get this model
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that's the old one that sucks but
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because you have to do that a lot of
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time to the ipads and iphones but now
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you don't have to do that anymore and
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all the max you don't do that anymore
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now with the watch which is great
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because like they're just now they're
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just all good
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like I I've noticed i I've taking note
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recently whenever I've been out in the
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world like we mentioned i spent a week
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in this beach town recently and I looked
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around constantly kind of like taking
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inventory of watches now watch her and
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this is what I do every where I go and
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I've I kind of noticed like roughly what
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percentage IC of different smartwatches
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how many apple watches do I see how many
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dumb watches do I see how many you know
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different Android with things that look
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like Andrew where vs pebble versus the
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Fitbit and garmin watches the single
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model i do see the most is the Apple
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watch but i would not say the apple
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watch has more than fifty percent of the
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share of smartwatches I see it's kind of
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like the iphone in that way it's like if
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you measure like that like phone model
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versus other individual phone models the
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iphone is usually the best-selling
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single phone in the world us whatever
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but like the market share of iphones vs
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all other android phones combined with
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the iphone is not more than fifty
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percent you know it's usually a little
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bit not usually a lot less that's kind
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of how i see in the watch world now in
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the SmartWatch world where when I just
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out and about and totally I see a ton of
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people wearing smartwatches I I was
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totally wrong i thought this category
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was going to be a little bit weird
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people are going to be very slow adopted
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know people love smartwatches however
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the ones i see the most you know it you
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know apples the one is the single
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monitor the most but most people are
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wearing either an Android one that I
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have a hard time recognizing like which
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one in particular or i do see a lot of
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the Fitbit ones either the either the
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skinny like bad like cuff band things or
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the the square one with it with a
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diagonal bezel on it you don't talk
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about yeah that if I see a lot of fits
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too and I think that I mean I don't know
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the numbers are like I'm how fit is
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doing but in my experience like when you
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say smartwatches I was wondering if you
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even counting fit because people are
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wearing that as a watch to wearing it
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essentially as a stay fit stay healthy
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lose weight you know remain active
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measurement thing because fit that you
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know Immortal the pebble Fitbit has the
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advantage of like it's totally focused
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on fitness cheap it's practically
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disposable battery lasts a really really
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long time and it syncs with your phone
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and just as the one thing they wanted
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where's the apple watch still seems like
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a sledgehammer to killing and you just
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want to keep track of your steps going
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to spend like hundreds of dollars to
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this fancy full-featured giant watch the
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screen that has software or just buy a
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cracking little outfit that if you lose
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you don't care about it and you have
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five of them
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well so this is what i'm getting at
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though so it it certainly appears as
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though the market is really you know
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it's doing very well in the like basic
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fitness tracking and maybe notifications
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and you know maybe some smart stuff but
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like it seems like these what people
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might want most of the time from these
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is a fitness tracker and because of that
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and because all the other ones that I'm
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seeing their kind of exploding recently
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it does seem like there's a lot of
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downward price pressure here so you know
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right now at the the apple watch series
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to the new like default Apple watch is
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now 369 starting point starting price
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before that it was that was one that was
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399 before
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alright sounds like a minor I believe
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that's right now drop so to have to have
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the Apple watch still be nearly four
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hundred dollars for the main one when
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all the competition is offering these
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like 150 or 200 dollar watches that are
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doing what most people actually want
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their SmartWatch to do it turns out
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that's putting that's gonna put a lot of
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pressure on this market especially in
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the holiday season this year so to keep
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the series one around a hundred dollars
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less its 269 to keep that around is
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really smart because they have to find
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some way to drop the price on these by
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all wat it isn't like they can't just
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like get near it the way that it with
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iPads because look what happened with
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low and tablet market share like it
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apple just lost it all because it turns
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out you can make travel to really
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cheaply and move most people to cheap
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habitat before is videos and basic
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browsing games and that's fun to you
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know get the Amazon six-pack but like is
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very important for apple for the watches
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future success to get that starting
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prices cheap as possible and to do it
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like this in a way that doesn't just
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sell the old one that actually makes it
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like a really good models like looking
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at these models if I were buying one
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today I'd probably get the series 1 also
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because i don't care about gps or water
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resistance so i probably get that one
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too because it's likely a little bit
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smaller and a hundred cheaper put that
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money towards a better band for it like
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that's a great thing to have in the
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lineup to have that be the entry price
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and to have that be the entry
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model is very very good but I but they
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are gonna have to get that price down
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even further
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well I think they're following the ipod
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playbook here where it's like it's
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really expensive yeah Mac only in the
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beginning whatever and the men are all
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like the iphone thing like diversifying
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the line of the ipods diversified went
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down market really far to the point was
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like a $49 stick of gum thing right
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I don't think that was ever going to go
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down that far but like the phone started
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as a singular product and diversified
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and kept the old models around and stuff
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like that and now that they're upgrading
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the old models but after that in the
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phone thing that's also a viable
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strategy but I totally see like mrs.
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this is the first design of the watch
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right wait for the second or third
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design it should start to diversify such
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that they are selling something that is
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more or less a direct competitor for
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with the fitbit's at that point like
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Fitbit is pretty safe for now hanging
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out with this little rubbery bands with
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a little turds inside them with the tiny
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like LED display right but Apple will
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come for them eventually like Apple will
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not leave that market but for now apples
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content to like you were saying that the
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one you saw the most is the Apple
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watches in the stainless steel one
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oh no no no I actually I've seen a very
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small number stainless steel was ever in
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real life outside of WTC know i would
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say by far the one that's all the most
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for the sport ones by it by a mile but
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like Apple babble watch is still a
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bobble for people who shop at the apple
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store like it is it assumes you have
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money to burn on fancy gadgets and
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you're already buying expensive crap at
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the apple store buy some more expensive
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crap at the apple store right but that
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but ipod start out that way to you have
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five hundred dollars to spend on a deck
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of cards that some music doohickey
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eventually they were selling those
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things that like every prime every
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increment of fifty dollars from fifty
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dollars up to several hundred and I
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think the watch can get there because as
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as the is like here's the thing the cpu
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power and GPU power required to do a
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decent watch is within shooting distance
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in a generation or two of being
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acceptable and that will just shrinking
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shrinking shrinking drink and unlike a
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phone or something you can make a watch
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you know you if they work out this
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interface you can make the watch pretty
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slim and pretty small as long as it's
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still watch lies and still keep most of
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the functionality so I think in several
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generations don't have no place to go
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but downmarket to start pressing these
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things down I don't you know a
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hundred-million-dollar low and apple
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watching a few years
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no problem hundred fifty dollar one in
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four years no problem and then where
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where is the room for your stupid rubber
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band as fit there's no room left for you
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so i hope they execute that strategy
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because i think it's a viable wonderful
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now they seem mostly content to stay
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high end although speaking of high-end
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it was interesting to see that you don't
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hear about the addition of the addition
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much anymore but they still have a
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product called edition and it's not gold
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anymore its ceramic which looks cool but
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it sure as hell isn't 17 grand anymore
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before we get to that I wanted to just
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point something out about the other
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Apple watches so if you go to their
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interactive gallery and we'll put a link
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in the show notes the addition isn't
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there which I don't think it ever was so
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that's not that terribly remarkable but
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I was fiddling around on this what you
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guys were talking and if you start with
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the cases so you're picking effectively
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which watch to get it it shows you all
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the different sizes and colors and
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whatnot and as you go through them and
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pick one so if you take for example the
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42 millimeter silver aluminum case and
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then there's links at the bottom i'm
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looking on a desktop you by model and
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then that's where you go to actually buy
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it what's interesting is it's it starts
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at 269 for the 30-millimeter or 299 for
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the 42 millimeter but then as you scroll
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down its which series do you want to 99
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for the series 1 or 3 99 for the series
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2 and I find that interesting because
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there's no clear distinction like are
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you buying an iphone 6 or you buyers its
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success actually or you buying an iphone
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7 like that in my recollection is that
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was always a fork in the road
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whereas here it's just hey you want to
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get a 42 millimeter silver aluminum case
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apple watch what flavor do you want do
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you want series 1 series to you know
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3842 pick your poison and that that to
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my recollection is different than the
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way it used to be and smart because I
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think like you guys were saying even
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though this is pitched as a fitness
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device if you're not someone who's
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working outside or working out in a
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swimming pool
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why would you need the series to maybe
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you always work out on a treadmill or
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maybe you never ever take this thing
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into any sort of water
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save yourself the money like marco was
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saying get the series wanted it's
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effectively just as good if those things
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are not your priority
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I just thought that was cool it was the
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screens on the bright either there are
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other actually that's true that's true
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I'd forgotten about that but yeah i just
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i think this is a very smart way of
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handling it now to come to the addition
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i did not realize that the ceramic was
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the addition until Marco mentioned
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earlier I I heard them talk about the
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ceramic i didn't i didn't know that that
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was taking the moniker edition which
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apparently it is and so I'm sorry I
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interrupted interrupted you before i
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believe is Marco that was talking so
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tell me Marco is a watch nerd why would
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i want a ceramic watch ceramic is really
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it looks really cool in person it is an
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extremely hard material it is very
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scratch and dent resistant more so than
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almost anything else you can make a
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watch out of its kind of like sapphire
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in that way you know it's very very very
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high on the hardness scale and you
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basically can you basically can't
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scratch it or dent it easily
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however it does shatter all this
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hardness you know typically do it for
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strength you will you you need to be
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able to take dense and flex so typically
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materials that are extremely hard also
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have a problem of shattering if they get
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enough enough of an impact so basically
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it would not be wise to use it on the
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sport model and that's probably one of
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the reasons why they haven't and the
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other reason they haven't is because
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ceramic for you know in in the context
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of making watches out of it
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ceramic is still fairly expensive and
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difficult to to manufacture just you
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know it's not that it can't be done it
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just it costs a lot to do it and it's it
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takes you know a little more specialized
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machining and and techniques and
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everything else so typically you don't
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find a lot of low and watching no
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ceramic it's just it's not worth the
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cost to do it
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this is exactly the kind of thing Apple
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should be doing because Apple is really
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good at exactly that kind of problem of
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mass-producing things that most people
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can't make very well or at all or two
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good quality or volumes standards
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because it takes incredible
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manufacturing expertise or incredible
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investment upfront and high-end machines
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or something like that
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Apple's very good at that so look at the
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previous Apple watch they had the
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amazing dlc space black steel watch the
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Watchers they still sell thank God
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because it's amazing the the the space
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black which is what they call the space
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black watch the coating on that also is
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extremely hard and pretty much
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impossible to scratch or showing damage
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for but because it is simply a coating
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on stainless steel that will not have a
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shattering problem so honestly if you
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want to watch us going to look really
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good no matter how much damage it takes
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get the space Blackwatch with the link
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bracelet but that's that's the one to
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but if you you know if you're going to
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be doing high impact stuff get the
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aluminum one and just accept that you
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might you know chip it or scratch it or
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or scratch the screen because you know
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if you hit hard and I think that's
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better than chattering whole watch the
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ceramic one is is gonna be really nice
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for you know I i love that they have
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taken the addition which was completely
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out of reach for everybody who would buy
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an Apple watch you know regular watches
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you know if you go by a solid-gold
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regular watch your gonna spend over 10
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no question like the and probably over
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20 so that was not unreasonable price
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for a solid-gold high-end watch but
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that's not really what people want if
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they're buying a solid-gold high and
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watched a wonder like a mechanical
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beauty piece that's going to last
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decades or more they don't want a
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technology that's going to perform like
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an iPad one you know and and be about as
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useful as I had one in five years
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so anyway this is a smarter way to go
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bring the price way down the addition
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the this is the new addition the ceramic
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is 1,300 bucks that's a great price
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point for this kind of kids it's like
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that's roughly what the what the
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high-end link bracelet ones cost plus
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like a couple hundred and that's roughly
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what the what the Hermes ones cost so
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that's that's a great price point for
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this the the one weird thing about it i
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think is that if you go to any place
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that sells ceramic watches and you can't
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miss the ceramic watch case because it
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is glowing and bright because ceramics
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it's usually very highly polished and
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they usually have link bracelets too and
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so you see like all these incredibly
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shiny white services next to all the
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incredibly shiny black ceramic services
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and if I had to take a guess black
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ceramic watches are probably way more
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popular than white ceramic watches
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so I do wonder why now
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a day after labor day they have unveiled
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a white ceramic watch and not a black
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one in addition or instead Jony ive has
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a lot of white pants haha maybe in
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California they can wear while you're I
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don't know
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so yeah that that's a weird thing maybe
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down the maybe down the road we will get
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a look at that you get the black one
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maybe at the spring you know refresh
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event or something who knows but that is
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kind of a weirdo mission to offer white
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ceramic in the addition and not offer
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black ceramic because black ceramic is
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very popular so we'll see about that
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the other thing about the you know
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there's the entire mass collection and
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that's not entirely new because we've
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had that for a while but that too i
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think is interesting you know if you
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look at an actual term as watch it's not
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an Apple watch the you know they sell
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lots of watches themselves there's
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actually one that I really like a lot
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called the slim God have the slim d her
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meds de armas i I'm so sorry to the
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entire nation of France it's a beautiful
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watch it seven thousand dollars and I
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don't think I want to spend seven
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thousand dollars on that watch even
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though it's beautiful to get the Hermes
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name and undermanned strap on a
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nice-looking watch for a thousand bucks
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is actually a pretty good bye in the
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watch world you know and and that is
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that is expensive compared to the apple
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watch will you call the apple watch
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sport but for people who want something
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nice and willing to spend a little bit
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more that's not that different like that
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that's that's within reach right it's
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still a lot of money but it's within
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so I think bringing the whole the whole
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price ceiling down from literally
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$15,000 down to like 1400 i think is
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really smart
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yeah I didn't realize until you just
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said that that the new ceramic edition
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is just barely more than the super fancy
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Darth Vader setup you have stainless
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steel with space black and all that
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stuff that's that's much I mean I
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obviously 13 or 1500 or whatever it is
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is a lot less than 10 plus thousand but
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I didn't realize it is just a hop skip
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and a jump away from from the more
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expensive regular ones that's that's
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impressive and I dig it
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I imagine Jony ive has a white ceramic
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link bracelet that is wearing right now
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with the ceramic watch it I'm also
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surprised they don't have black and I'm
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also surprised there's no ceramic link
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bracelet that's even a thing that they
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do it because it was just go together so
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nicely but gotta leave room for the you
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twice-yearly updates and like a totally
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see that making a black ceramic one of
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these yeah and I'm surprised there
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weren't that many new straps that was I
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mean maybe there were some new colors
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mixed in there but the only one I really
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noticed was the nike one with the holes
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in it which I thought looked pretty cool
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like that whole watch the lucky wait all
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I don't god i can't i can't back you
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yeah you got that look good
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I mean I wouldn't wear it on my wrist
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but doesn't it looks cool as like as a
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think is cool as the as the iphone 5c
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whole cases remember those no it's cool
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it's cooler than that i actually didn't
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think those were bad this is
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I think it's the colors that drive me so
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crazy like the look of it in and of
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itself like if it was just black let's
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say you're just white I don't think the
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the hole cut out the cross drill look is
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that bad but these god-awful neon colors
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are no thanks nike brand is branded
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within an inch of its life like the
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whole you look at that you know that's
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like a branded like the whole thing is
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just the colors match on the screen and
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on the thing and the whole nike with the
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the font and everything like that is a
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better than nike sport while I look at
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the stuff that they sell that that is
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exactly on-brand for them and I even
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give them credit for saying you know
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what we have holes in it and it's not
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just like we had to come up with some
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way to add me on it's vaguely functional
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like it's going to be a sport watch this
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one most certainly breathe more than one
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that doesn't have holes because the
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holes are pretty darn big
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so you know if you if if you're already
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buying me on nike running shoes and and
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like headbands and like all the other
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outfits and just spandex or whatever
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like this fits right in with that
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aesthetic you don't let you know where
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to dinner ahead me because it's a
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glowing green black thing with this
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weird slightly haunted but uh i think it
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is exactly on brand and when you have a
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million different kinds of watch again I
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think it looks less ridiculous than that
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double cuff thing that remains thing
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with the that too high i don't
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understand most like the one that wraps
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around twice
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yeah I know what yeah the one that has
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two parallel straps like all right we do
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we have some sort of this is like some
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sort of disease where you're afraid that
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the watch is going to the part you need
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to just keep adding more and more strap
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so that you need to put it on if that
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was the reason no but it that's like I'm
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looking at the picture of like the other
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one with the two buckles like how many
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hands do you need to put this watch on
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like isn't only people with assistance
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to help them get dressed like a risk the
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risk course it but yeah it's gonna
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eventually they're going to be lacing
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them up
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it definitely a part of even though i'm
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so into watches that's definitely part
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of fashion I do not understand at all
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goodness aight so all-in-all summarize
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the watch i I'm giving us two thumbs up
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I i think this looks great a few people
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seemed perturbed
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that this didn't include a cellular
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modem maybe if and when that time comes
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which presumably it will maybe all think
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my goodness i want this it's amazing but
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sitting here now i don't think i really
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need or necessarily want to cellular
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modem i watch my watch is always within
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reach of my phone or within a Wi-Fi
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connection my phone i don't i'm not
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disappointed by that I think adding gps
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smart I think adding the battery to
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offset that new a power-hungry gps is
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smart I think this looks great in
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keeping the series one around while
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giving it that shadow update like you
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guys are talking about is smart guy i am
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all on board with this
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I don't think i'm going to get a new one
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I would like the GPS but it's not do or
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die for me i would like the better of
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water protection but again not not do or
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die for me so i think i'm gonna wait but
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man if you're thinking about napping
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watch now's the time
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this is a great great great lineup yeah
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I mean like the cellular modem that was
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never gonna happen this year I mean if
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you if you look at like if you look at
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the limitations of they have you know
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this this very low compared to a phone
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this very very small enclosure here that
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has to sell for a very low price point
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and has to have very long battery life
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the the limitations of what they can
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cram in there both space-wise and for
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power and heat concerns they can bear
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just just now like a year and a half
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after they launched the original watch
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they can now just barely get it
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performing well to just do like local
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stuff but they just hit buttons and
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change screens they can barely achieve
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that now so the idea of throwing in a
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cellular modem and having having enough
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like free space and power and budget to
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have all that in there i think it's it's
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just unrealistic that was never going to
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happen this year we're lucky we got gps
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agree but all in all you're pleased with
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Marco absolutely i mean you know I still
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don't really think it's for me but if I
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if I decided to to go back to being an
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Apple watch where every day I would
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absolutely get one of the new series two
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models probably probably stainless steel
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like I have like I had before because
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that's that's like a good balance for me
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of like
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looks and and budget and functionality
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but yeah a solid solid update and I
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think we what remains to be seen is how
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much faster the cpu is in reality that
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that I think i'm looking forward to
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people's reactions and reviews to see
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that in practice and to see if there's
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any other downsides like is the battery
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life you know substantially different or
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worse under certain users profiles or
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whatever else but it's probably gonna be
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really good so i would say if you are an
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Apple watch user and you wouldn't miss a
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few hundred dollars by the new one and I
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we haven't mentioned and I don't want to
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talk about it now because I think we
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covered it relatively well in the wdc
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episode but watch 3 is great i think
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it's a little overblown right now how
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much more instant everything is but i
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think a lot of that is coming from me
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not having watch os3 built third-party
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apps but watch 3 is great and made my
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Apple watch series 0 feel a heck of a
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lot better and i really like the changes
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they've done to the way watch us three
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works or change they've done between two
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and three
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so all good things in the watch but John
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I why don't you wrap it up for us as
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someone who has stopped wearing is Apple
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watch i still have fun feelings about it
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i still look at it occasionally once in
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awhile i wear it mostly I stopped
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wearing just because I'm not a watch
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person and this wasn't able to get me
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over the hump but all that said none of
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these new watches are making me want to
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buy them i'm still waiting to see like
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the next generation to get it slim down
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to two you know did the actual big
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redesign but I think marco Belinelli had
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earlier he said the most important
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aspect of this watches on it from the
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perspective of technical person is that
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is now under exactly safe to tell anyone
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just going to the store and buy an Apple
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watch because none of them are stickers
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with the game I mean even if they just
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on the hardware that would be true but
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the hardware plus watch us 3i feel
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confident that anybody who is vaguely
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interested go in there and whichever one
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you buy be great to be aware like you
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know about the gps because i think that
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is if they had to pick one feature to
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add for the big battery they pick the
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right one because i know a lot of people
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who I mean my wife included she has
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giant clunky garmin gps watch
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because if you're a runner and you want
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to keep track of your run you wanna show
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me exactly where I ran like my exact
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route like that's that's that's an
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important feature and to have to have
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your big clunky phone with you
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especially if it's a plus is difficult
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to find if I like a belt to strap it to
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and then you're wearing your watch and
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so she ends up just wearing the garmin
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gps thing because you can bring one
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thing with her
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these are both good products series 1
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series to both good products the fatter
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watch now that i know it's a millimeter
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federal reminds me a little bit of my
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beloved ipad3 up but no good like I said
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that the surrounding everything about it
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like this
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this I think is the the right compromise
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between new features new technology and
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everything while we wait for the big
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redesigned Apple watch series 3 or
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whatever they they changed to so I'm I'm
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not tempted to buy one but I am happy
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with the update the only thing i would
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say though is that with the exception of
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the GPS which as you mentioned that's no
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small thing because you know as we've
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been taught everyone talking about like
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the Apple watch has really found its
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market in fitness tracking like that's
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such a big part of it
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FYI people buy it and why people use it
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so to add one big thing to help that
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market tremendously is totally worth it
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and told the right call but i will say
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that other than gps they didn't really
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address any of the reasons why you
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wouldn't have wanted one before so
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basically like if you were already into
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the apple watch this is a great update
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if you didn't buy one before for a
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particular reason other than gps that
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reason probably still applies one more
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thing in the water before we leave I
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left out the most important reason for
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my for my life my personal life my wife
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I assume will be getting a new Apple
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watch she does not have an Apple watch
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she's thought about getting to see in
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mind knows what it's like she's thought
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about getting it but for a variety of
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reasons just never gotten over the hump
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for that I mean your partner is that she
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can't wear it in all places a network so
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should we can graph it everywhere work
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most places or can wear the apple watch
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is kind of a pain place that she does
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run she does use a big clunky garmin gps
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thing when she runs she does have a fit
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so she's got the garments fit and she
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got the iphone
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the thing is going to put over the edge
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its Pokemon go on the watch
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that's fine because she still playing
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pokemon go
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it's really difficult with the success
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plus like to just have a big phone out
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and the game makes you either have the
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phone out or have it in like it's not
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like the sleep mode where you turn
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upside down the screen goes off and
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never quite works right it's a little
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buggy but to be able to do like I now I
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don't know about the game with a strike
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0 you can incubate your eggs and see how
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much time you have left the ball like I
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know what all those things are and I
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know that she does it with her giant
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phone out if she could just do it with
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the watch this is I almost guarantee
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that she's going to get an Apple watch
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and show claim it's not because of
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pokemon go but it kinda is
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finding new ways to make progress like
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what's-his-name on the watch sorry i
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can't remember this is a bunch of white
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that's difficult to change on a dime but
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you can change was in the product photos
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easily and like it it's amazing that
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hadn't occurred to them to lean on that
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that but like you know what if we can't
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do it another if we can't fire Phil and
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replace them right
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we don't want to just lean really hard
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in the other area that we can control
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like it'sit's they're finding more
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levers to pull to try to make an effort
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sort of like deciding that done and just
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coasting yep i was i was pleased to see
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that so iphone 7 they well Phil came
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this is phil i think at his best you
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enthusiastic and he said that he was
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think we're just going to go through the
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one by one the very first one does the
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refined was the word to use design which
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outside of colors basically meant move
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top into the bottom and otherwise it
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did this is a hanging lantern and see
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the expression from like the
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scriptwriting where you have something
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that doesn't really make sense in the
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plot of your movie and the way you
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characters in the movie say but this
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be possible
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all means if no one says the audience's
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insulted like you expected but that's
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not how that works but if someone in the
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movie says but that's not possible that
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shouldn't be happening it's like yeah
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that's what I'm thinking to in the
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audience guy up on the screen now I feel
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better about it so this is the same
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design we've talked about this before
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it's not they haven't changed it i think
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all the old cases fit to like is it
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exactly the same down to the millimeter
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the cases won't fit because the camera
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open Internet totally different
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much bigger camera opening ah is it
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because my up so the exterior dimensions
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if not identical then so unbelievably
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freakin clothes that I don't know how
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you can tell the difference but you make
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interesting part point Marco that I
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hadn't considered that the camera bumps
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are different so that might well
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certainly on the seven us some plus I
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mean you don't have a hole for the
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headphone headphone port coming so the
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very least it would be it would be weird
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to put a six on there and have this
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whole way there is nothing but at any
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rate essentially the same design and
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it's and they lead with that with the
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new design and the Johnny I video is
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great because what is he going to say
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about this like he says he's a little
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things you expected to say like this is
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this is our third bite of this Apple is
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the third you know it's the ultimate
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refinement of this
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design right so this is a design they've
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had time to work on first one was little
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bendy second with stiffer and now
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they're just like move the antenna lines
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of you know they just continue can
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imagine if they were forced by you know
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some unseen you know an alien just that
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you have to keep doing this i'm forever
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and just refining Johnny I would
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continue to find ways like reduce moving
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parts and make it better and just you
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know Starlighter but if you watch the
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video again the Johnny a video is
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available on apple's website we called
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the design video
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wait until the last line he says which
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is I forget the exact wording is that
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basically recaps reset the beginning the
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end he says this is the ultimate you
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know incarnation or whatever i'm
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paraphrasing our memory says of this
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design the way he says it is the
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ultimate incarnation of this design like
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says that being a tease holding he's
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hoping the iphone it in his hand while
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he says Michael can't believe they let
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them that intonation going to go listen
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to it again Marco put a clip in right
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here and then we'll be able to hear it
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is it's totally weird
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when complete iphone 7 is the most
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singular the most fault representation
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of this design but honestly tanga landed
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on it or lamp shading it or whatever you
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want to call it for the new design I
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think it worked i mean you know why I
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like we knew about the jet-black ahead
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of time are you did if you're looking at
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rumor sites i really like the jet black
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I think the product shots of this thing
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are amazing I've never been a hater of
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this design as much Marco is i think it
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is perfectly perfectly cromulent design
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has allowed around right angle shouldn't
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have been bendy way too slippery but
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aesthetically speaking the jet black one
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is the first one of this is I'm that
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actually could say that I've like not
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just tolerate and said yes fine it's
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okay i think the jet black one looks
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freaking cold
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can you tell me what cromulent means
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it's not in the Apple dictionary just
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get your boots to take too long so every
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other show okay so i agree with you that
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the jet-black at least aesthetically
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looks awesome i immediately thought to
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myself oh yeah i know what i'm getting
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i'm going to be getting a jet black
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iphone 7 and then i thought other things
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which we'll talk about in a minute but
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what was interesting was i had noticed
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earlier today that Apple basically comes
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out in all but says well the jet black
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one is probably going to get the
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smithereens scratched out of it so it
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says on the page you go to go ahead and
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footnote number to the high-gloss finish
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of the jet black iphone 7 is achieved
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through a precision nine step
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anodization and polishing process
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its surface is equally as hard as other
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anodized apple products however its high
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shine may show find microbe raisins with
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use if you're concerned about this we
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suggest you use one of the many cases
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available to protect your iphone or just
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get the black one without the jet yeah
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that I think that's the most important
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aspect is aesthetically speaking before
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we get into how these things might feel
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as the black is back
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I hate the white front of all iOS
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devices i think it's crazy to put a
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actual bright
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white physical device next to your
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screen just makes your skin look dingy
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is your screen is never going to be as
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white as a reflective white surface
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black black using all your product shots
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and makes the surface looks like one big
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giant beetles thing in the screen just
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comes out of it
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black everywhere black front black back
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everywhere black is back
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I'm happy about that and I have two
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blacks it's awesome have not space black
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not space creates in black and jet-black
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and angry that I wish they call the
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piano black but i agree that the the
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shiny black ones I mean I can't even
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look at it can even take it out of the
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case like it's like the guitar and
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spinal tap don't touch it don't even
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look at it like you can't touch that
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with your fingers like it's just you
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know it's like the piano black and
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marcos car i did you have that friend
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near test all right you though it used
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breathe out you can't do anything with
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it but boy does it look good in product
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shots and it takes a lot to get me
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excited about the same laws in shape
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it's been here for three years but they
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found a way to do it
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yeah visually visually I think this
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looks unbelievably good right so now do
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you think this thing is gonna squirt out
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of our hands like a like one of those
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little uh inverted water balloon things
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mirror you know what those are also saw
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yeah that's what you're talking about
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this so so Gruber was in the the
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hands-on area doing a couple of
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periscopes earlier today and he said
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that that people are asking about the
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grip cut the grittiness of like the two
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different blacks and he said that and
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there's a couple people that backup so
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it's not just him that the the jet black
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super shiny one is almost tacky feeling
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it is surprisingly grippier then the
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regular steel or the regular aluminum
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ones that we've had to date and
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scripture then then you know the the
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matte black one
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so this is going to be interesting you
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know basically what do you choose here
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do you choose something that looks
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better like in pristine conditions but
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it's probably gonna look worse all times
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of day every day in reality after the
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first day you have it but it's easier to
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hold or D or do you go with the one that
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is slippery and harder to hold and
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you'll probably have to have a case with
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it so to me I'm kind of leaning towards
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glossy black jet black
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just because I like having the
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additional grip texture like I and if
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it's gonna look crappy on the back
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oh well you know like I i leave my phone
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I've been going caseless for the last
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few months I got those the debrand skin
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that mkbhd tell everybody about I got
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those there like 12 bucks for for both
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my my success and then i also have the
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the 69 s + 44 that i bought for testing
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back on the first bus came out I put it
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on both of those just a basic black
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vinyl skin basically and it really
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doesn't improve the grip by a decent
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amount but this sounds like it might
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even be more than that and so if i can
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get a very grippy back like I wonder is
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it going to be as grumpy as the like the
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the old plastic cases on the 5c and the
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3g and 3gs because that would be like if
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it achieves that level of grip
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I don't care how it looks like that that
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would be amazing to hold for a new
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potentially giant phone too because what
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you don't want with these big phones you
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don't want to need a case because cases
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ad size so if your complaint is that the
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phone is too big in your hand or pocket
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the last thing you want to do the bulk
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it up just to add grip because then
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you're making that problem even worse so
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ideally like that with the reason I
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switchback after after about a year and
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a half using the leather case the reason
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switch back to case list with these
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vinyl things is because i wanted a
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smaller pocket sized I want to minimize
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that and it works great and I and that I
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have you know hopefully the full
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usefulness of the of the left side swipe
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the pushing and the force talks about it
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for like all the edge gestures and
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everything which is which are a little
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harder using the leather case so like
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ideally caseless but grippy is the way
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to go so I am totally willing to to get
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the fingerprinting scratch magnet and
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accept it will just never look good as
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long as it works well in my hand because
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when i'm using the phone i'm not looking
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at the back
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fair enough also interesting which was
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not mentioned during the keynote but now
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it's probably pretty good time to say it
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Apple quietly reduce the price of Apple
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was the applecare screen replacement it
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used to be I believe a hundred dollars
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and now it's only 30 which is probably
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going to be enough for me to buy
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applecare for the first time ever
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and potentially enough for me to go
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caseless for the first time in quite a
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long time i think i started using cases
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with the four asks i think that's right
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and I've been in cases of some flavor
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ever since
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if apple care if you get to accidental
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replacement for thirty bucks a pop with
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applecare which i believe is the case
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and i have yet to a record it but how do
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you pronounce a word erect probably
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anyway it I've ideas really like why
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don't you yeah yeah i have yet to
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properly destroy an iphone
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knock on wood I think I might go
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caseless and just get applecare for the
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first time and just take my chances
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because that's not a bad deal to get a
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whole new screen replacement assuming
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there's no other damage to the film I
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have bad news for you you have a replica
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bleah destroy us on the second you get
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that screen replace you can't this is
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another I'm sorry to tell you that the
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ones that once they open up to replace
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the screen and put it back together it's
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never the same
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yeah it's probably right basically right
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yeah i don't know i mean it's not that
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I'm saying i'm planning on dropping the
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thing but for the first time along in a
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long time
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Casey list might be caseless oh my god
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i'm so tempted to hit the bell but
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insert some terrible rim shot laughter
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also what about the the shiny the jet
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black business it's kind of I'm not
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gonna say this is the same as the ipod
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nano the scratching rhythmic ipod nano
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but this is aesthetic aside and gripping
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aside this is the wrong material to make
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super shiny I still maintain them up my
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favorite and the best phone design
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aesthetically speaking as just an object
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that you hold in your hand setting aside
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most other things about it is the 4 and
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4s and the black ones obviously the
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black foreign for us had a shiny black
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back to them and that worked because it
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was glass which is incredibly
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scratch-resistant unlike this surface
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which apparently sneeze on its going to
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get scratched even if you put a case on
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it was gonna get scratched please
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in between the case and your shiny black
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back is going to be some tiny little
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piece of dust that's going to leave a
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microscopic scratches on it right but
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speaking of thirty dollars screen
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replacements glass back
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not a great idea because now you have
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two sides that can shatter and people
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did so i'm assuming the 10th anniversary
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iphone 8 complete edge-to-edge piece of
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glass blah blah that presentation should
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have parts of it they were omitted for
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this one's parts that emphasize how much
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stronger the glasses and how much it
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resists shattering and instead bends and
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you know how much stiffer the cases like
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just all the damage aspects they leaned
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on waterproofing and appropriate which
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is great and I'm glad they're advancing
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on those fronts but drop ability wise
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this one is just a shadowy as the other
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ones and now if you get the jet black
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it's like the scratches thing that could
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review that Apple has ever shipped
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according to their own documentation
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here except for the ipod nano so I think
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if you you know it if you just wanted
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for grittiness that's fine i think if
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you buy this and use about a case or
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infuse it with the case you have to
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embrace the idea that it's going to get
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scuffed up and I don't know maybe it
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will look good when it scuffed up or
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maybe like Marco you shouldn't care but
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it's another one of those products that
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unfortunately you have to divorce to the
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reality of apple product shots from the
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product that you're gonna actually
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unwrapped because they're mostly
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unrelated to each other and just make
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your peace with what's going to really
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be like to own it but
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that aesthetic shiny black that
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maintains the forum for us did that like
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because it's not you can make glass
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pretty hard and scratch proof so if you
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didn't drop it and shadow either side of
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it like a look at my wife's for us right
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now it still looks pretty darn good i
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mean i looked almost like its new that
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was an incredibly good design if you're
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going to do glossy you have to do is
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something that's scratch-resistant
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otherwise you're just inviting trouble
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and so apples inviting trouble with the
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jet black thing but it looks really cool
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well yeah it looks really cool in
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pictures and videos and yeah i remember
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no one has ever touched it yeah i guess
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if you look at also in groupers
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periscope that this is one I believe was
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the second one the hands-on area you can
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see like the phone was in the hands-on
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area like what one point he like those
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like an angle shot and you can just see
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like it's covered in fingerprints and
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that's like from a few and then they had
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people like the staffers who were there
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running the hands-on area people were
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saying that they they would wipe them
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down with polishing cloth between each
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person handling them most of the time
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and this one was just like one that was
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lying down flat on the table which
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obviously was handled by like two or
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three people maybe at most and it was
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covered in figure 4 it's like it
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you're basically your phone if you get
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the jet black will never look the way it
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like by the time you're unwrapping it
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and plugging it into sync everything
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over if you do everything with itunes
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like like a like a smart person with
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backups because you then you don't enter
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your password all over again if you
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click the incorrect backups box anyway
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like by the time you're done like
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setting up your phone it's not gonna do
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that anymore like you won't even get a
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day with it looking like that yeah you
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can't you can't touch it you can't touch
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you can't expose it to the air before
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starting like you just get and here's
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the thing the front of all our phones
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already looks gross like we are
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exuding oil all the time our little
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fleshy appendages are just gross and
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they're like constantly like that's just
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the way it is it if you touch things
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with your bare fingers they will be
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gross the front of the go look at the
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front of your phone right now it is a
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mess it it has to be like that the only
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of phobic coating on there to make the
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oil spread but like there's no there's
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no getting around it
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yeah by the way I was wondering like did
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they put that coating on the jet like
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they never mentioned it so the answer is
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probably no but it seemed that they d it
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would have benefited from the only
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phobic coding I don't know that we made
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it slip here but like this
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no hope like it hit the smudges there's
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nothing anybody can do about it but I
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think again getting back to the forum
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for us they were smudged up and
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getting scratches in the clear coat your
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just it kind of looks like okay like you
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had a bunch of geeks pick some fun
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bone I'm sick of all these different
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grades like make it black but we see we
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like do we do we really need to like
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the colors the you know there's no more
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to me the whole lineup with the
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exception of the the glossy black one
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the colors look a little bit dated and
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stale to me look a little bit overplayed
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now which is weird for a brand-new
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high-profile device like this like it is
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just merely did those colors not look
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old to you no colors don't those colors
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don't do anything for this design the
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which is basically the rounded edges and
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the rounded edges just blend away into
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nothing if you have entirely Matt case
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on it when you have something that is
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glossy or even something that is black
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is more reflective it highlights the the
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the rounded edges and makes it look cool
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or even just a little highlights around
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little speaker brings if everything is
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Matt it's like well there's a screen and
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then some amorphous blob back there
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that's like silver or gold and that's
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not doing this design any favors and
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you're right they have repeatedly called
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for a long period of time and not
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particularly helping it but i think most
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people use cases I think the black one
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black front with it and then just throw
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in a case and like I don't remember what
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color the back of my phone as I assume
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it's like grayish something but I don't
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see it because inside my case
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so I think it's appropriate like what
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else can they do with it could they make
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them like really dark primary colors i
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think that would be unwise at this point
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it's best to just stick with colors they
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know they know the relative popularity
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of those colors add one or two new
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things in the mix and interesting also
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that they're doing the the black book
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thing hundred fifty dollars for black if
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you want your macbook and black
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well if you want the jet black one you
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can't get the lower storage model you
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have to get the 128 or 256 but there's a
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clear signal that the jet black one is
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supposed to be the fancy one kind of
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punishing you for your desires for shiny
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phone by a giving you a phone is never
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gonna look like that and be making you
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paint which is totally the Apple
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tradition and everyone who buys a jet
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black one including me are going to
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deserve it
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so you are getting a jet black 1i think
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so i think you're gonna get one because
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like I didn't know if it would be
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anything in the 70 mincemeat upgrade
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this is my year I have a6 mostly I was
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convinced by the things we haven't
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talked about yet but just like didn't
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hurt you are the perfect person to have
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a jet black because you are always
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slightly dissatisfied about everything
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and you will always be slightly
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dissatisfied with the condition of your
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jet black finish
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I don't know if I think i'll probably
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still get a case for it i'm i'm
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generally dissatisfied with the state of
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my leather case i don't know what's
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happened to but it started to like all
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roughly and pimply so it looked my
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mother case was awesome up until maybe
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three months ago and then start to get
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run play and now I'm like maybe I should
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get a black silicon case next time but i
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have to hold in person to see what it's
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like how slippery it is because I would
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not use my six without a case ever I
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don't think i would use a success
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without a case every either how the
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tribesmen to see how it is i am really
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torn because I really like the look at
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the jet black but I think even in a case
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I'm gonna know that thing's getting
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scratched crap and i actually think the
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the black black looks really darn good
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as well I completely echo what John is
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saying that to me anything other than
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black iphone is kind of silly like it
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would be one thing i would actually
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really consider the silver phone if it
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had a black front but these white faces
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just are no thank you
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if there was if there was a silver and
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black i'd probably pull the trigger on
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that one but since there's not
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i think i'm going to go regular black
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think I need to go to 56 and we'll talk
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Marco what are you planning on doing so
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we will so I'm going jet black for the
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grip even tho i knows who looked at it
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like I'm i'm tempted to like take a
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piece of sandpaper the back the very
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first day I haven't just get like a
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smooth coding just like I just feel like
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a nice like matte finish shaker that's
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still grippy the soft mat then it will
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get slippery again I think it won't be
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group anymore i think part of the
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grittiness is the is the shine is kinda
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like the plastic back of the 5c I think
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have the term handy but now it is
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the ways in which people's iphones can
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fail or get killed
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parts of parts that can get crap stuck
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else and this is one other way like
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clearly apple looks at its repair data
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from the genius bar and warranty claims
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anything you can do to get to keep dust
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do wonders in prolonging the life time
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of these devices and making people happy
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of the reasons they've chosen to remove
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things at the headphone jack but the
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result here is you know pretty good that
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now it now I don't have to worry if i
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get my phone really wet to the point
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where like as as Phil showed on stage
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like somebody falling in a pool with the
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phone in their pocket or like I think
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the more the more pedestrian horrible
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in the toilet but there's lots of ways
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people can inadvertently submerge their
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phone briefly and water that used to
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most likely kill it and now most of the
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time or all the time basically won't and
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that's great i can't believe it
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they didn't do the obvious demo I wonder
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is necessary life member in the watch
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thing more like oh we sealed up all the
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opening so that the same graphic with
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the phone we sold all the openings now
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it's even more water resistant and now
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the phone is why resistant except for
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recourse we couldn't tell the speaker so
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our solution here is the motor gets in
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the speaker after you and the workout we
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push the water out of the speaker
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well the one opening that they left
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aside from the speakers on
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phone that has been known to have
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problems is the Lightning connector so
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what they should have done is we
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recommend once a month you put your
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phone in the water and then the taptic
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engine will eject the water and all the
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scum don't because yes bar like that has
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to be one of the the major reasons
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people go to use but always not charging
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any more I can't get the connector
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always and it says this this accessory
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is not made for this device all the
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different problems that basically it
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boils down to you have pocket lint in
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your lightning port let me pick it out
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with this point little tool
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yeah if its water resistant and if the
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taptic engine is right behind it
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this is like a self-cleaning type of
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thing where it should be able to it
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doesn't need a medium so probably get
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some more but like eject the the content
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like every once in awhile your phone
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just like sneezes and rejects all the
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skeletons in there beyond amazing watch
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for that in the next version of the API
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father's they did it they did in the
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watch anyway that's what i was thinking
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we can you imagine feel explaining this
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feature they call it I puke
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like I i have to take like some kind of
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like pointy proud to lure often just
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parents
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it is ip67 and the phones should be able
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to survive immersion and up to 3.2 feet
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of water which is 1 meter for up to 30
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minutes so basically don't go deeper
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than about a yard or a meter and don't
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leave it there for very long and should
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be good to go
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try to take like underwater pictures
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with it by the way like that's what it
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comes down to like you drop it in the
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water it'll be fine right but don't like
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I'm going to get swimming and take
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movies under water for an hour and open
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to that as the tips to put so eloquently
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eloquently in the chat it can survive me
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Wow jerks come when we were going
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skipped number to the water and dust
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resistance was number three and
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coincidentally one of the ways that they
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got to water and dust resistance was by
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swapping out the hole
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button and it isn't really a button
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anymore it's a not piece of glass
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necessarily but it's kind of like the
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new track pads that Marco is so in love
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with and now it's all just smoke and
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mirrors and the taptic engine straight
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out doing buttoning without moving i'm
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representing guys don't get no fine
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anyway it doesn't move its a button it
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doesn't move without buttons don't move
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on our max we're totally use the buttons
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that don't move the screen is filled
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with buttons that don't move
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now the homework doesn't move anymore
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but still got a little indentation so
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it's nice that you could find it
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yeah we'll see how it is like Marcos
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least favorite non-moving trackpad is
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the one on the smallest device and I'm
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assuming that's because on the really
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small macbook one the taptic engine
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can't give the bump that he needs to
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feel like he's pressing something I
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imagine that problem will also exist in
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the very tiny phone
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well it's it's worse than that even i
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mean if if you if you look at the the
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impressions that the hands on people
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have of it they all basically say it
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actually doesn't feel anything like the
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force touch trackpads and it it doesn't
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feel button like at all that you know it
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that the opinions vary between the
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people who were there about whether they
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like it or not but the but the
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overwhelming consensus is that it does
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not feel like you're clicking a button
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at all doesn't it doesn't feel you like
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the trackpad can fool you know that it
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said the way to describe it sounds a lot
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more like the Apple watches taptic
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engine we're like you push hard on
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something and it vibrates but it doesn't
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feel like you just click the button for
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real yeah that's another thing i think
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i'll have to try before I actually pull
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the trigger on the seven as you know i'm
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not i'm not gonna preorder 1 i'm not
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going to order one side and CNN in a way
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to you know same stuff really do let
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people get the crappy first batch that
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has all the problems and going to the
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apple store and tried i think no matter
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how bad it is i'll get over it because
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again honestly the the current home
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button on my six that goes in and out
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i'm not a super big fan of that one that
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sometimes it bothers me especially using
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my iPad my new iPad pro frequently
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especially with stupid iOS 10 with the
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little press the button to unlock I
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don't want to press the button Don I
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just want that like it used to
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anyway i'm going to get used to it but
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pressing in especially when I've got on
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my lap on my bed or something
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graze my fingers across the surface of
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the screen except when I like realized i
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want to go back to the home screen then
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i have to actually press really hard and
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a thing now for such party doesn't get
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rid of that hard pressing but you know
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maybe it will feel better than nothing
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moves in or not I i totally different
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everything in the hands-on area in fact
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that it's been split at this point
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probably means that this is not a
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slam-dunk home run but i might not be
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bothered by but I add as with so many
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things as we'll get to later
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this just feels like an inevitability
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where apple an apple gave all the
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examples we removing parts from our
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products because overall it's better for
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reliability and you'll get used to it
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and I think all that is true isn't the
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taptic engine moving parts that dies
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constantly but it's inside the thing
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like it's not you don't get that it's a
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sealed it's a sealed unit like it's not
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is it not a moving part that you get to
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move we move it this way I I really
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fundamental get to this more I really
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fundamentally disagree with the
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justification that this is the
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inevitable future of course from moving
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to get rid of all the stuff really but
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is that really inevitable like it i
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think a lot of a lot of this case that's
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it that's not really a valid argument or
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that's not a complete argument I don't
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know I i wonder if you've ever heard
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this podcast Marco called hypocritical
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but this guy who hosted used to talk
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about the naked robotic core of
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different devices and I i would say
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we're moving closer and closer to that
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what we have volume buttons we have we
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have the the silent button i was
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thinking of the volume buttons right why
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did the volume buttons to move and when
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I was thinking about why the line but
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and the power but why did the volume by
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the power button when i was thinking
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about that I was thinking of my very
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weird rumbling and pimply leather case
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for my iphone 6 which by the way some of
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the chat room tells me that success
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cases are actually manufacture
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differently supposedly assume better but
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anyway um when I use my iphone 6 in the
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leather case and I operate the volume
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controls and the power button through
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this roughly other case they might as
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well not move
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essentially just apply pressure to the
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bulges that are on the outside of the
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case and I'm pretty much fun with
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applying pressure to the bulges I can't
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really feel the move underneath my
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fingers but i don't have to apply that
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much pressure if they made the volume
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buttons in the power
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the buttons not move but feel the same
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as they do on my leather case I think I
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would be fine with that too so maybe I'm
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going to be in the camp that that
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doesn't mind it but the inevitability is
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just like moving parts break and get
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crap wedged in them and are bad for
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waterproofing and it's not you get used
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to not having them like it's possible to
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make a good physical user interface with
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something that doesn't move or doesn't
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move that much as we seem like the the
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forest attract birds they do flex they
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don't know move don't go up and down but
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they do actually flex if you were to
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look at with a microscope they do
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actually Bend and flex maybe if they
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gave the home button a little bit of
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give again I think we talk about this
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when we were talking about the horse
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track pad of the city f-16 the the
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control stick that doesn't move that
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much it moves a little bit they
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originally we have three doesn't follow
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percent but you can repeat the same
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freaking ball like the control stick
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stuff like a flight simulator game or
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airplane you move it up down left and
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right well in the a16 that they could
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fight stick is not in between your legs
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originally made it so it didn't move at
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all but it was totally weird 44 like the
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pilots to just apply pressure and not
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have to move so they made a move a
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little bit but in general doesn't move
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as much to mostly just applying pressure
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i think that kind of happy medium can
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make for a really good efficient user
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interface maybe they just haven't struck
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the right balance here when they come
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out with the eighth they will enhance it
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the thing the worst case scenario is the
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rumor date they keep locking up witches
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actually no button like it's just so
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completely smooth surface you can feel
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where it is and it gives as much as the
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screen gives again we all use buttons
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that don't give it all on the screen all
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the time and we're fine with it but the
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home button is like the last fashion of
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like I can pull the thing on my pocket
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and feel around unlock a thought I think
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they can't they can't really give that
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up I'm curious to see how it feels very
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very curious i feel like every Apple
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device that i've owned that has a home
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button over the year to two years that i
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use it the home button just feels less
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and less crisp over time even though
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they've always worked like I've never
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had a catastrophic failure of my home
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button it just feels kind of gross
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after a long time
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nothing is actually moving i'm all for
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it I I mean I'm a little worried based
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on the reviews like marco was talking
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about but in principle
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sounds good to me also real-time
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follow-up ip67 turns out that actually
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IP is ingress protection and then the
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six and seven are how much dust
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protection you can get from over from 0
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to 6 16 the most and how much liquid
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product protection you have between 0
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immersion up to one meter in depth the
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meter or more depth and 9k is powerful
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high temperature water jets so i guess
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if you wanted to bring it like a hot tub
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or something like that which I did not
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know I thought that was kind of cool
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anything else on home button design
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water dust resistance anything before
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the camera it all remains to be seen in
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practice
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yeah very much so but I mean so far this
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these are incremental updates but but I
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I'm looking forward to it alright
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captain negative i just i i really don't
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like four stalks that's it like I
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everyone says this one is different from
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the one so hey maybe I could like this
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one a lot because it's not like the
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cameras first and most importantly to me
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as someone who does not think he's going
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blur capabilities of like an f4 or f5
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points6 lens on your size sensor I I
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sensor versus an f-18 lens on a
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full-frame sensor the full frame one
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the objects but basically the f 1.8 is
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amount of letting in but for background
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blur purposes it is not comparable to
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the numbers you get from yours
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really interesting but still and I mean
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right i mean it's it's certainly not a
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bad thing
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oh it's great yeah maybe that the
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important thing is what Phil said on
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stage fifty percent more like being let
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in and that is you know that means that
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you can get faster shutter speeds or you
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aperture to get more light in while
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keeping what you want in focus that is
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of your photos didn't say anything about
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sensor size is bigger than the previous
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what the success was also know it's been
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stabilization of the bottom line is how
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sensor and how sensitive is it to light
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pixels but the pictures we have gathered
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more light each so you can get better
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low-light photography right or we made
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the sensor bigger so now gathers more
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light and now they're making it the
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aperture be like you just got to get as
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much light as you can and you have to be
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able to collect as much of that light on
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the largest area to get the ideal would
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giant sensor but that's that's fancy
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technique doesn't exist at this point or
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even something like that but the Litro
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thing we have like a thousand little
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cameras collecting the light-filled and
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doing all the crap like that like it's
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about a big fancy camera there are
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environments primarily indoors or night
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or whatever where you're never gonna get
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tiny sensor with the current technology
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of light gathering and so that's why
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these big cameras for most people's
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lives take a lot of pictures indoors and
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they're going to be daddy where they're
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going to be blurry and they're going to
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be noisy and this you know there's
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nothing you can do about it and if you
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look at anyone sort of social media feed
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people take tons of pictures with their
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phones in dark environments and it
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looked terrible
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eventually they will not look terrible
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every little advance every of every
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extra bit of light were able to climb
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the environment and gather on a sensor
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means we're getting better and so have a
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good things to club that slope and we'll
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get to the the whole you know dual
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camera angle they're trying to pitch
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here but as far as the seven is
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concerned I think this is a significant
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advancement of the camera but in the
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grand scheme of things sort of like it's
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one of their good years but it's not a
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gigantic advancement is just like one of
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their good bumps to the camera camera
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talking about only I mean this is again
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this is one of those things that we're
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going to have to see in reviews and
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practice how it actually turns out it
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was like you know they'll still say
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whatever they want on stage and you know
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every every iphone has the best camera
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ever put into an iPhone you know it's
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phil that's it
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of course it got better we won't know
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how much better for you know until until
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we get these things but it it should
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sound like it was it was a good year for
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it so I I mean you know be with
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even with the the single-camera without
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going into the giant one yet
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it sure does seem like it's a good year
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for it i mean that is a pretty notable
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aperture improvement that is a
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substantial you know lens optics met you
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know the count of having to six elements
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the optical image stabilization is good
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so we'll see how this turns out but it's
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probably a pretty good upgrade year even
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for the regular 79 plus and this is one
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of the factors in mind upgrades remember
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i have a6 not a success so this is a
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huge leap over the sex and it as I do
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find myself taking a lot of pictures of
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my sex because the camera is not that
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terrible i would love to be able to take
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pictures and slightly more challenging
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environment so this if you have a six
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this is a definitely a reason to get
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this phone just your picture will come
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out much better because the two-year
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advancements baby have a success i don't
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know i think that someone's going to
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comparison test and show me the
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practical realities of single-camera 7
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vs single-camera success especially the
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success plus which is my advice fun i'm
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not sure how big of a jump that's going
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to be but they're making progress
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they're doing all the right things other
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than being at the college is still there
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but I think they've just like giving up
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inclusion of the the wide color gamut
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photo shooting which I that is something
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that is very hard to find and do well in
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other cameras like you know they they
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exist sometimes or they have different
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color profiles they can use but dealing
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with that is kind of a pain in the butt
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and so to have this be built in and just
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all your photos shot on the iphone are
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going to have wide gamut support and
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you're going to view them on the iphone
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which itself also has widened supporting
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its display and we'll just work like
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that's awesome and that's that is not an
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easy thing to do and that's pretty good
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the other dimension with the with the
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both camera capabilities thing is Ross
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shooting this is a I really am gonna be
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to see how this turns out
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the idea here is like you know for
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basically a very quick overview most
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photos you get the most cameras are
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jpegs the camera has done some
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processing to interpret the raw sensor
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data from the sensor to to apply things
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like you know normalizing colors and
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white balance and sharpening usually
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about usually more sharpening and
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contrast boosting than you might realize
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basically try to make every photo look
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good and to apply slight processing if
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there's if there's flaws in the lens the
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lens has like you know slight barrel
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distortion or slight vignette aware the
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cornerstone capture quite as much light
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as the middle of things like that that
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those all be corrected in that same
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procedure as you convert from the raw
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sensor data to the jpeg that you that
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you then storage of the person high-end
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cameras for a long time of offer the
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ability to save raw files which
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basically just skip all that processing
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or defer to later and saves onto the
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onto the flashcard the actual raw sensor
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data which is massive and then to view
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those and process them requires your
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computer or whatever else to do all that
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all that conversion generation and
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everything
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the advantage to that is that if you
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know usually advantage of that not only
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is like you know if you want to do less
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messing with the original data and you
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want to like do that in your own
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controlled way to do it either
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differently or to do less or more of it
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there's also other other major
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advantages like jpegs have a certain
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limit of of how much dynamic range they
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can apply or they can they can represent
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between a hundred percent white and a
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just like a certain limit of how much
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precision can be stored there there's a
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limit of how much dynamic range you can
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store in jpeg raw it doesn't have any
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kind of inherent limit their space
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whatever the sensor can represent so if
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are just black and like there might be
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some detail there in the shadows that
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might get you might want to pull out you
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can do that much more effectively with
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raw files because what if that data was
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on the sensor at all it's still there
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can get a lot of a lot of detail out of
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that way more than you can add just
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processing jpg.jpg already had all the
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like very very fine granularity thrown
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away in in the processing step to make
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it from from the center to japan in the
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first place
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editing that anyway and and you don't
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lose anything by doing that so
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kind of flexibility on my iphone photos
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something like forty dollars whatever
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camera in both size and cost so chances
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question whether there's any more
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quality to be had from the raws on iOS
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this kind of processing they're probably
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doing the best they reasonably can with
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idea of somebody else be able to tweak
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more likely to be is just larger slower
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process images that don't have all the
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nice balancing and contrast and
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sharpness and lens Corrections that the
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built-in ones will have so will again
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they they hinted at it was showing the
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lightroom demo is that if you really
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want to you know the way I think of the
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raw to jpeg thing is it going Ron jpg is
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a lossy operation you have to pick an
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exposure level if you pick an exposure
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level we're all where I do this all the
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shadows are black or all these
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highlights are blown out the white
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you're never going to get any new
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information out of that black is black
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and white is white
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whereas if you still have the raw and if
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you have it in a program like lightroom
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you can pick a particular shadow area
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and expose that differently to pull out
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detail from the shadows over there but
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then these highlights over here exposed
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to different like you can actually
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because it because the raw sensor data
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is behind their treat different areas of
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the photo differently based on the
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subject matter
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and you're right that you will have to
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reapply all the stuff that apple doesn't
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particularly probably noise reduction in
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in anything that doesn't have really
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bright light because it's going to be
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noisy on a little sensor but i assume
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the ability to basically process the
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image in more or less the same way Apple
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does it will be available to third
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parties and then on top of that it's all
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just like what do you want to do
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artistically speaking to this particular
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photo so i think you will be able to
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pull out shadow detail and highlight
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stuff if you're willing to put in the
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time to treat different images of the
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area differently i think you're right
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that would compromise for the entire
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image is probably apples probably doing
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the best you know you can imagine but
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the option the option makes sense and i
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think it opens up the market for
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applications the more serious
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photography applications on the phones
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especially if I mean you didn't mention
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anything about 4k 60 frames-per-second
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it's not there but video right but so
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will be in a few years and that will
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open it up for you know for video apps
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in video editing and stuff like that so
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anyway I'm i encourage anything that
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gives these iOS devices more of a pro
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bent and I think this is a movement
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direction of course it also means that
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you just fill up your photo allocation
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even faster
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yeah anything to you know it if Apple
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really works on this like full stack
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which they probably should and probably
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what this what this could also enable
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depending on you know how well they do
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it is this could just be able two
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built-in editing controls in the Photos
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app like if if you can if there's a
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setting somewhere that says like always
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shooting raw or something like that if
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you can get the if you get the photos
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and the Photos app could itself keep
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doing it over and over again all the
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cool apple processing stuff as you
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adjust the various sliders and things to
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edit the raw so if you have you know as
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you if you have a different opinion of
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what the highlights and shadows should
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be and what the white balance should be
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you can have all that being done
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non-destructively on the raw and still
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have all that processing done on the way
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out to to view it to display into disk
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it's not quite that simple though
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because Richard tweeted earlier
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presumably because he was briefed by
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Apple the camera app shoots jpg
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only third party apps can do wrong yeah
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that's right well hopefully that's me
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hopefully in the future that might be a
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setting the setting is called film i
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phone 5 times faster
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well they haven't they have this they
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have a setting for video quality you
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know it by default the iphone 6s could
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shoot 4k and was a pretty good job of it
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but that's not on my default by default
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it's it's 1080p I think my TV 1080p 30
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but it can also 1080p60 and 4k 30 and 4k
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is like is about a gig a minute that at
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that at their bit rates so like that's
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you know you figure they're selling a 16
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gig phone that can shoot a gig a minute
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with the video that's kind of a problem
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so it's disabled by default but it's
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still an option for those of us who
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bought the 128 right so it's like you
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know what I'm sure but you know it's
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it's more practical for people with with
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the bigger phones
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this is the same kind of thing if they
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want to sell these big phones here's a
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reason here's a way that like power
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users will want to buy the bigger phone
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so they can do this
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so the absolutely that's the kind of
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thing that they hopefully will do in the
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future because it seems weird to have
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that capability and to only let
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third-party apps use it and to not do
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anything with your own built-in photos
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at that everybody uses and that has lost
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any controls noticed an SD card slot
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don't worry
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yeah that's it we should also talk about
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Phil's extra-credit project which was
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depth-of-field adjustments and
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enhancements by way of the magic of
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software in these seven pluses 22 lens
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camera system or two camera system but
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before we get to the depth of field
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thing we just talked about two cameras
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on their own merits before the software
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updates not even going to be out when
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the phones are out right so the two
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cameras by themselves as you have two
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choices you can take from this camera
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from that camera and one and then
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resumed in twice as much as the other
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which is nice
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it's pretty straightforward i was
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looking for maybe a little bit more
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magic which they can deliver on their
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extra credit assignment but essentially
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well they're actually there is some
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magic in that it appears that you can
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zoom smoothly between those two focal
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lengths as well i think i think it was
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it was just tap from 1x 2x and slide
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from to exit annex but it's all software
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after that that is that is how I heard
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it as well as what John is describing
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that 122 is a jump in after after two
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gradient you might be right i mean it
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didn't have they could do it smoothly
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slide just go here's the here's here's
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the 1x image and I'll software scale
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until you get 21.99 and i'll switch the
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other camera but the bottom line is you
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have two different cameras presumably
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both have equally high quality sensors
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they're just one is telephoto as they
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said I'm one of them is wide angle and
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that alone even if that was the only
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feature they had that you have two
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choices of two different cameras is nice
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because the default was like why do you
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want to take a picture of a group of
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friends or whatever but every once in a
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while you see you see this a lot like
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parents trying to take pictures of kids
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like assemblies or camp things or
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whatever and you know they're so far
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away they're holding up their phone in
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the audience you know their kids going
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to respect because its wide angle lens
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in there there towards the middle or the
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back there's no way they're gonna even
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be able to recognize that kids face if
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they have a 2x zoom on that will go a
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long way towards them be able to
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recognize where a little timmy is in the
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picture so that's a great idea hey that
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the seven plus gigantic you have plenty
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of room in the back you've already got a
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wart their want to make it a double wart
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help put five cameras and five different
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zoom levels like just keep adding
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cameras along with a bit different zoom
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uh-huh this is a little bit barbaric it
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will be looked back on as like remember
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when we couldn't do the entire back of
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the camera sensor and instead we just
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kept adding more cameras but for now i
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think it's a it's a reasonable
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compromise and then what I was looking
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for after that is ok you got the two
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cameras that's good
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they they are good for all the things
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they're good at what kind of magic can
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you do with these two cameras when they
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work together and the magic is not
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shipping on release and not that amazing
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especially in light of the light-filled
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cameras and all that other stuff where
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they're like we just gather all the
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light and do these amazing things in
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software Apple as less ambitious goals
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but i think that the result will be a
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little bit better so real-time follow-up
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cindy caldwell has said you can
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absolutely pinch or really scroll to
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zoom between each lens but the button
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allows you to be specific
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right but I said I think I was doing
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software assuming the one until it gets
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to actual to and then it switches like
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it'll be fun to play with that and go
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like get it up to 1.9 and switched to
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watch all the sudden get clear you know
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because it then goes to just like put
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your finger over one of the lenses and
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just like see when it switches
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yeah that's interesting point headed
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that way that's funny yeah i mean so
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this is this is gonna be great like this
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is one of the reasons why i'm mostly in
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the plus that I want this and and like I
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love shooting photos of my iphone like
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many people do I shoot undisclosed my
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phone I should most of my photos of my
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iphone to have their be finally like a
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new optic to it that's building is
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always there you know you always be able
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it's never as good as having the
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built-in was always there to have this
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be great my my only little pic I you
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know everything is always a new pic is
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bit more zoomed in they so the the
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regular lens that's always been there
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the time that was wrong actually 28
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millimeter equivalent and most recent
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models and so the new one being twice
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that is a 56 millimeter equivalent of a
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seven in the presentation and that is an
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end so it's similar to a 50 millimeter
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lens that many people have used but only
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on full frame if you if you use 250
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million lens like on on on a rebel or
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like a smaller camera like it's not full
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frame it's actually more zoomed in on
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what you're getting with the iphone it's
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the iphone you know that that is really
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they kept calling a telephoto but I
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don't know any photographer who
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described a 56 million lens with a
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telephoto lens that is a that is a
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medium lettuce or normal lens the the 28
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that you normally get with it is a wide
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so anyway they don't have a wide and a
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normal i do wish they would have gone a
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little further can be given like an 85
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millimeter equivalent that would have
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been great because as you get a little
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further into that range it starts
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looking a lot nicer for portraits and
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and just pictures of people in general
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just the the more you get in there that
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the better it looks
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generally yes like take cups back
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sometimes but it's usually worth it so
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hopefully they will they will move in
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that direction
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I mean in my wildest dreams heck out of
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third one at united as you receive I'm
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like you know you got like camera one
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camera two go below it a giant the giant
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like circle that so as well as both of
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those they're putting like
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35 there something that'd be amazing and
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probably not gonna happen but that
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physics is kind of a problem here in a
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number of ways but you know to have to
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have something a little more zoomed be
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nice also the the 56 millimeter lens i
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believe it has a lower aperture than the
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wide ones i believe on the site said it
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was an f f 2.8 so these zoom lens will
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be worse at low light situations and
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whether it can perform or whether it
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whether it can produce genuine
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background blur before get to in a
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is it is is not going to be as good as
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if it were f 1.8 but because it is more
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zoomed in basically the more zoomed in
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you are the focal length wise the the
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more background blur you you can tend to
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produce especially if your subject is
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fairly close to you so the the formula
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for background blur usually is subject
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very close to you and also using a very
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long lens like a very zoomed-in lens
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that's how you get blur and you can
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actually get blur on today's iphones on
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every iphone basically you can get some
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background blur if you have something
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close up enough like you got a pretty
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that's a pretty wide lens on a little
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phone sensor but if you put something
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really close to your iphone you will get
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a blurred background if the background
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is far enough away from you
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so anyway new new dual lens camera think
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just for the sake of photography just
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basic photography that is awesome in the
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ability to very quickly switch the fact
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that it isn't only a pinch zoom in fact
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you can just hit that little button
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title so 2x that is awesome and i will
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probably use that a lot
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so you're going plus club i think so and
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for that reason alone the the blur thing
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they show so it looks like with the
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boyfriend you want to wonder that
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yeah I certainly can but before i do
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John are you going plus club
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no come on yeah so I i went back and
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forth on this and i'm pretty sure and
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we'll talk about why in a moment i am
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not going plus club either so before
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this all the before the presentation
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today there's a lot of debate especially
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because of the invitation that Apple it
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sent a lot of debate over whether or not
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the plus with its supposed to camera
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system that we now know is real if it
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would be able to provide some really
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really good bokeh and I think we've
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talked about this in the past but boca
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is that background blur the market was
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just talking about so it's where you
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have is you know Casey typic yeah please
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email me so it typically and I'm
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oversimplifying but typically this is
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with a portrait although not necessarily
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always where you have you know the
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person relatively close to you like
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Marcus describing and then the
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background is considerably more blurry
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or you know hopefully the person is not
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tolerated on the background is very
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blurry and people were saying beforehand
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that this 7 plus we'll be able to give
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you a legitimate honest-to-goodness
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visual boca or that background blur some
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you can play those depth-of-field tricks
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now Phil said he gave his engineers an
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extra credit problem and the extra
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credit problem was I want to see boca
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like you get out of a DSLR or equivalent
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and that's one of the reasons I brought
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my Bible micro four-thirds was because I
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wanted to be able to do the same sort of
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thing I want to be able to see that
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coming out of an iphone and so coming
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later this year i believe they said
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certainly later and iOS 10 update 7 plus
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users will be able to do a portrait mode
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in the camera app that will that will
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synthesize the background blurring and
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give you a synthetic boca I really
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admire what they're doing here it is
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really impressive and I really think
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they're on the right track to something
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really awesome but the fact that it's
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totally synthetic I don't know that's
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nothing is not the right track the right
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track is to be able to pull that off
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optically like eventually with with the
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again medical center that is the entire
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back of your camera with which is like
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filled gathering and Bob like to fake it
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it's like it's like you would take a
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picture and then given to the top 20 and
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told him pretend the background was
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blurred and like have them go in and
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mask out the part like doing it's doing
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more than that because it's not just
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give me a flat image
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let me find the people and loaded
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background is that would be awful i
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think it's also using the dual cameras
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to do it to make a depth map so it
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figures out like it's picking a focal
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distance that is trying to make a depth
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map by i'm still using like stereo
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vision from the two cameras and figuring
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out what's closed and what's far by like
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you know how far the images divert from
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each other whatever making a depth map
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and then picking its focal plane and
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saying anything behind that then just
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applying like a blur filter to the stuff
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that is right behind in these focal
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planes like and I guess that can look ok
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and the shots but I honestly I think
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that the photos they chose the shows off
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or bad photos to show it off with like
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I'm the backgrounds were so sort of
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bland that the blur didn't show anything
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I want to do foliage Foley just that is
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like the go-to right it's Greenwich
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like the go-to right it's Greenwich
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blotches of yellow with light going
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through them like that's that's what you
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want to see the blur on and they didn't
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show any of those are like a sky gray
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sky with the the suspension bridge and
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then a couple lights which I guess are
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pretty standard like the invitation
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headlights in them had that person
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standing in front of a light-filled but
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I was not all that impressed with the
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shots and I worry that as this fake
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algorithm tries to make these depth maps
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and then just like does gosh and
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blurring the background that it's gonna
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look like that it's gonna look like a
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picture that a computer found the edges
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of your head and then blurt everything
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behind it and that's I'm not looking for
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that because that that's exactly what's
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happening and you know this is not new
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you've able to get absolutely after
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Instagram does you know that's what i
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thought was kind of funny like to have
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Instagram there to say oh we can't wait
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to use all this new stuff is like
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instagrams existing app has a background
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blur feature that was its and there's of
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course lots of others but that's gotta
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work on two day it's it's not as it
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doesn't have the advantage of the depth
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feel so it presumably the depth feel
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it's not you don't have the problem of
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like edge detection around their heads
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because you can actually kind of have an
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idea because like an actual camera shot
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with depth of field the the focal plane
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that the things that are actually sharp
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are actually pretty narrow and so like
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the person's years could start to be a
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little blurred because they're farther
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back there i've also their nose right
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and so you can just find the edges of
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their hair and the blue everything
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behind it you think so the depth thing
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does give them an advantage when they
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showed that expansion like how many debt
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levels is finding and really how much
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depth can you find from two cameras that
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are within millimeters of each other
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righted that's the challenging problem i
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always wonder if like getting on 3d
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style and have the two cameras be
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separated more widely to get better
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depth on it but honestly the only like
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fake it till you make it sure but
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eventually you should make it which is
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do it for real that's what like yeah
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because the problem is though the way
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they're doing so you know the the
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general principle here of find the
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subject keep that in focus and then the
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rest of the background apply you know a
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basic blur image filter to that's that
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that approach has been around for awhile
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and and the new thing they're doing I
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just like there there they've made
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advancements here in finding the subject
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like defining the edges of the subs
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defining the area that will be sharp and
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then blurring everything else like
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that part they made advances on but this
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whole technique of take a regular photo
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that doesn't have good background blur
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because it doesn't have child up the
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field and practice and then blur the
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parts that are supposed to be blurred in
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software the whole problem with this
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approach is that the resulting picture
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like that's not how real background blur
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looks if you do that technique
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even if you do that technique perfectly
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even if you perfectly define which exact
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pixels in the frame are supposed to be
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sharp and which was supposed to have the
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blur effect applied to them
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it still doesn't look right because that
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they're very good examples and if that's
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the best they come up with that might
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the the overall quality this feature one
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cheekbones are in focus but their ears
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or a little bit out of focus that showed
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the the hey we're using depth we're not
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just doing edge detection because you
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couldn't do that with a with filters
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they actually weren't using depth
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properly like if you actually look at
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you if you see like you can you can look
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at certain areas from the photos you so
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photography
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there is there's a plane of of what is
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in focus on that plane is not actually
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perfectly flat it's actually you know
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curve but because that's optics and
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physics but anyway there's a plane of
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what's in focus so generally speaking
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it's it's close to flat for most
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purposes so generally speaking you know
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if if you are if somebody has like you
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know to two things on their face like
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let's say like you know like there-there
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eyelash and their chin like you two
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things that are like the same depth away
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focus the other should be in focus and
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that's an apples test photos even had
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flaws like in that kind of logic it just
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didn't and also i thought what ended on
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the whatever is defined as the subject
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in focus the edges of that like in the
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in the in the one that was the portrait
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of the guy his shoulders like or his
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ears like the they should have been
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focused based on
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what was being shown and how it was
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supposed to be a little basically was
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simulating like the edges should have
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been in focus there and they weren't and
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so I think they're like I'm not saying
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like every that average people are going
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to notice that necessarily and be able
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to nitpick on these little things like
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that but i think people do generally
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notice like hey that doesn't let that
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looks fake or that looks like a filter
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you know that doesn't look real and I
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think that adding people do notice that
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they should save the what I don't know
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if they may be doing this because we
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don't know we don't have the thing in
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the shipping later but if they sit if
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they took the picture and say be the
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jpeg in the wrong place also say the
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depth of field that will let you say
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look here's the regular picture you took
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and if you want you can try this effect
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but it's basically lossless having to
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choose at at the time even if you just
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say the jpeg with the deputy would still
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apply it after the fact having issues at
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the time you take the picture you could
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like i fear for people who accidentally
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put into that mode don't quite
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understand where all the pictures are
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all messed up like they tried to take a
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picture landscape without thing on it
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goes haywire and be much better if they
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just took the best pictures they can
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honestly from the optics and sensors
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they have and if you want to be fancy
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and save a bunch of death fields and
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others another set of channels and have
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a fancy at they can apply them
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selectively and maybe it'll make some
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pictures look better that's fine
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yeah i mean this this is a nice little
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trick you know it's fun people are going
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to have fun with it for a little while
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but the thing is if you have a 56 Miller
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millimeter f 2.8 lens you probably can
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get some background blur like you know
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as much as you would on a larger sensor
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with that with those specs but if you
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just get a subject close to the lens and
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have a background it's not that close to
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you like you can get blur
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that's real optically again probably a
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ton of it but you can get some and if
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they just highlighted that I think that
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would have just been a little bit and I
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will i think a little bit better anyway
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doesn't matter
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yeah I mean I i really think that this
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is the easiest one man's portraits words
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i really think that having this boca
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like a fact is the best way to make
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someone that is interested in more
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prosumer level photography like I am
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and I i I'm getting better at
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understanding the the academia behind it
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if you will but if you had told me like
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two years ago 0 you can get this you
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know depth of field effect from your
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brand new iphone
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it really would have made me think twice
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about spending you know $1,500 on a
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micro four thirds camera of really nice
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lens so I really think they're going in
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the right direction obviously i agree
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that that doing the synthetically is
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definitely cheating but as we've all
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been saying particularly on gruber and
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mg Siegler we are marching closer and
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closer toward not necessarily needing a
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DSLR for most people and I that's a
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great thing I think that's a wonderful
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thing the one of the biggest drawbacks
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however to this simulated boca is that
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the way you access it is by going into
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the camera app and selecting portrait
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mode which implies to me that it's been
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tuned in such a way that it is looking
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for faces and i think they said a little
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bit about this during during the
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presentation but it's tuned four phases
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and I don't know if it's really going to
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work at least for now
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very well with things that aren't faces
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and there are times like some of the
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pictures i'm most proud of some of them
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don't include faces so I've put in the
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chat and i will put in the show notes a
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picture that i took the beach here to go
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which has that background blur but I
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don't know how to phrase this i deployed
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to tactically kind of like Merle and
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tactically but there's no faces in this
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picture and so how would that work with
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this simulated vocal would it work like
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this is where I think it all starts to
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fall well on its face but again a step
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in the right direction
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I i appreciated how Phil position did
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during the presentation me and I'd be
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considered earlier i think phil was
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awesome i think is he was clearly the
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highlight of the show he tore his he
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really had a lot of good stuff to say he
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delivered it well with one exception
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which we get to about the headphone
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thing but overall I was filtered a lot
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and I think the way he said expectations
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here was good like he said right in the
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right in the keynote
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that this is not going to replace slrs
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you know for for pros like this is not
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going to do that and that's really good
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to hear like it's good to keep
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expectations realistic and two tone on
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tone down the hyperbole and stuff
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because like if you set expectations
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accordingly then people will be pleased
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like but if you if you say we're going
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to kill slrs for pros or for you know
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for people who really like shooting real
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like at real background bar that if you
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say that and then your solution that is
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just software blur like that would be a
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big disappointment so they actually did
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you know pretty well yeah I'm let's do
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our fourth sponsor for this evening
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this was unsolicited but it's the right
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thing to do and I think we did this last
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year dear friend of the show
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Stephen Hackett his eldest son is has
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been affected with childhood cancer and
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for the month of September it is a
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childhood cancer awareness month and so
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will put a link in the show notes to a
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brief post that Stephen put up on his
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website 512 pixels dotnet and it is a
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really touching post about what it's
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like to be the parent of a child with a
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young child with cancer and so obviously
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we always liked it if you are a patron
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of any of our sponsors but I know I
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speak for all three of us and saying we
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would really really super mega ultra
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like it if you could scrape together any
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amount of money to donate to st. Jude's
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Children's Research Hospital and
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there'll be links to all this in the
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show notes probably in our sponsored by
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section and i've donated marcos donated
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I don't know if John is donated yet but
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I know I can i I'm speaking for him and
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saying that if he hasn't he will party
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now there you go and this is even though
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i am lucky enough for we are lucky
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enough not to have children with cancer
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it's still it's still near stevens
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hardened by virtue of it being geared
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near and dear to his heart is near and
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dear to our so if you could scrape
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together even just a couple of dollars
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and and throw it seats why I think all
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three of us would really appreciate it
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absolutely the reverse sponsor they're
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giving us money we're giving them money
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yeah exactly the response i like it so
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next on the list retina HD display we
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sort of kind of covered this already
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there is a wide gamut color no true tone
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though which I'm disappointed by I'm
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lucky that I haven't yet been ruined by
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seeing a true tone display or if I have
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it's been four seconds but I was looking
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forward to getting a two-tone device in
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my new in my new iphone and as it turns
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out not so much no room for the light
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sensor they need to remove another port
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yeah I was gonna say that yeah sorry
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lighting for is gone
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yeah just like that no that no they
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won't ever do that because that's
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actually been given them like lots of
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income and stuff that will get rid of
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like the volume buttons as you stated
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earlier phone because no one talks into
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their phones anyway
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well now we have another solution you
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can buy a bluetooth wireless microphone
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now out 469 dollars
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oh goodness oh yeah i was disappointed
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by that I by the display in general they
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also said it was a 20-percent writer
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which is that's that's cool so I i did
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get in general or but i am sad that
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there is no true tone display and it's
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not a LED we're saving that for next
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yeah it it did seem like you know given
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given how they usually do things like I
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ruffino first going to introduce these
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this cool new advanced thing on one of
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our devices that was gonna move to the
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other ones like the fact that you had it
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on the ipad pro 9.7 and then to not have
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it on the on the following flagship
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iPhone is is odd
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you know i think you're right John it
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probably was just for like sent like
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light sensor space reasons but it that
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is it does seem like an auto mission
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also lead times I think I imagine only
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quote-unquote good or best display even
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before like I think it just comes down
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to lead times and the fact that it's so
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tight in there so don't worry it'll be
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on the 10th anniversary phone unless
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there's something specific about in
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terms of processing and
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and screen tech that makes it not fit in
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a thing but i don't know of any
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limitation that just makes it not not
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compatible with the phone sighs device
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for the foreseeable future so i think i
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expect to see in the next phone i agree
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next on the list I audio not headphone
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audio just audio audio and Phil said the
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new iphone has stereo speakers which all
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of us I think we're expecting but all of
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us were kind of fearful or most of us
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anyway that there would be two speakers
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on the bottom of the phone which would
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kind of defeat the whole purpose but I
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don't know there's a speaker on the top
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and speaker on the bottom which I'm
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actually pretty excited for I listen to
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stuff off my iphone semi frequently i
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listen to podcast fairly frequently
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occasionally listen to music if i'm too
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lazy to go to turn on my main amplifier
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in the family room or connect some other
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speaker system i actually very rarely
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listen to any sort of headphone with
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with my iphone will talk about that in a
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minute but i'm really excited to have
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the stereo speakers because occasionally
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i watch movies on my phone doesn't
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happen often but enough that I'm excited
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about it and two times the volume
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heck yes I am all-in on that really
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excited Jenny I'm not trying to be
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snarky I'm genuinely excited for this
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no this is like I mean I also i use my
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iphone speaker all the time usually
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listen to podcast and to have any on
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something like YouTube videos to like to
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have any extra volume there especially
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the podcast use case is going to be used
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a lot people going to love that and I
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think you know it's the whole thing with
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like you know worry about it being too
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on one side wherever there's a lot of
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people who were like oh this is not
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gonna get a lot of stereo separation
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there and like the point of adding more
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speakers on a little fun with this
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the point is not stereo separation it is
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not positional accuracy it is not like
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audiophile quality here I say this as an
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audio file it is not for this purpose
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it's the main reason what thats that
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that we would want it and would benefit
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from it is volume and additional
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directionality so like it and if you
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look at the ipad line you know the the
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ipads for years had like that that one
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dumb speaker on the bottom like
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basically as if they were giant iphone
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just like having one like around the
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corner there and then the ipad
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pro generation this last year they
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basically made it so that their speaker
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on all four corners and they they
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treated as like to with like one being
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the world forever anyway doesn't matter
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the result of this is that ipad speakers
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now are so good that like you know
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compared to what they were before having
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like this the one on one side they are
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way louder max volume also a clearer
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just way higher sound quality you get by
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just having having four drivers working
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together to produce one set aside
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basically you can you can drive them a
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little bit less harshly and have a
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little less distortion and then you have
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you have been firing now in two
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directions and so that helps fill a room
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or space better and more effectively or
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even just like around around a table or
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around the chili gates it's better to
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have it coming out of you no more sides
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than just in one direction to the side
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on the phone is gonna be a little bit
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different because what they did was they
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have the speaker on the bottom in the
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same place it always was and the second
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speaker they basically it seems like
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they just kind of amped up the earpiece
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speaker where people's phone calls voice
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comes out like that up top the ears
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right here that is the second speaker i
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didn't know that
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yeah there's there's no like top grill
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like that these that the second speaker
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is a louder amped-up earpiece speaker so
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what remains to be seen
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basically you know what you're going to
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have if you if you're holding the phone
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with the within landscape view with the
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home button on the right the way you
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probably watch a YouTube video or a
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movie you basically have like one
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speaker that's where the old one always
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was coming out into your right hand and
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the second speaker then is pointing
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towards you from like your left thumb so
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the sound is commanded to different
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angles and it's coming out from to
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probably different sounding speakers
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because they're not only pointing in
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different directions but they have
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different types of enclosures and and
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ports around them to let the air in and
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out so it's probably going to sound
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weird and like if you try to treat it
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like sideways like that i don't know i
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i'm i really am interested to see how
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this is in practice where we'll be great
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is things like podcasts music we're like
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laying the phone down on a table or
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maybe like in your car's cup holder
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a very popular one things like that
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we're like you're just putting the phone
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down somewhere and you just want volume
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your car's cup holder I don't understand
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how you people like Margo with the audio
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file and just anyone in general can
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tolerate the sound coming out of a phone
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even for podcasts for you know i can't i
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can't even even because I can't even
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understand what they're saying cup
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holder and a car you ever used overcast
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man i fix this problem is the car not
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running maybe you have better maybe in
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your electric car with no internal
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combustion engine or your BMW is better
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sound it my iphone playing audio in my
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running car it's not me it's I hear from
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my customers to people do this because i
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know and i know people do the others
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always lots of cars don't have good
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audio input option i know but it just
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sounds so terrible so incredibly
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terrible and I think I mean the ipad pro
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that small I've ever with the four
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speakers huge upgrade and sound and yet
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still awful still awful and so the phone
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I i totally applaud the extra volume I
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think that's great anything you can give
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to give you more volume with less
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distortion you have a chance of
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understanding all this is great but i
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still think the world's worst
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five-dollar earbuds are better than
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playing that damn phone on a counter and
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I don't understand how the to you with
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your household bluetooth speakers choose
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to take your phone and check in on your
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kitchen counter
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instead of just bluetooth into a speaker
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your replies as well get to bluetooth
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that's what I have a house full of
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bluetooth speakers and I hardly ever use
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them because they're a pain in the butt
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to each to each his own improvements and
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sound quality or good i'm glad that I'm
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glad two speakers are next to each other
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although it does not give them a
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convenient excuse for why the headphone
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port is gone because guess what they
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didn't replace it with two speakers down
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there the other one is up on the top and
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the one facing towards you I think
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that's a benefit because everyone is
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done i think the the iphone cup where
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you cut your hand to aim aim that the
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sound at you and you're shocked by what
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a difference that makes having one
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actually pointed at you it's got to be a
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big upgrade so all thumbs up on it's
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like there's not room in this phone to
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put giant empty cavity is like the
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recent the ipad pros right so thumbs up
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and making it better but I still don't
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quite understand maybe because I'm
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getting old my hearing is going bad I I
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feel like it's not like I'm listen up
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because it's terrible because it's
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terrible but I'm not someone that like I
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can understand what people are saying
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you know I have a feature and over
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ask that minimize the distortion when
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using the speaker I've actually profiled
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this and measured if I if I ever
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willingly listen
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yes i know i've used that feature just
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to see if it made it better and it does
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make it a little bit better still sounds
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like garbage but my point is your butts
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and therefore that the speaker's the
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size of like a pencil eraser not even
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its time wasn't like I i actually have
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very low expectations for the quality
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you that i'm going to get out of the
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earpiece speaker just because like it
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there's no room there for like porting
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or shaping the sound at all or having
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like a nice wide output port neches
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little slit like that so it's that's
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gonna be going to do the same thing with
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like you you're saying with the ipad
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like what they did you just send certain
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frequency cut-offs to the the like use
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one is a tweeter or something who knows
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I mean they just set the biggest thing
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is volume like that's you right there
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like the double the volume that's death
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does the headline feature sorely needed
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everybody loves it the thumbs up
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yeah alright so next on the list we've
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got four more like a long as you're
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gonna be
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yep next on the list a Apple was
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courageous and they they dropped the
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headphone port John can you explain to
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us why using the word courage was a bit
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before stage what we get here can we
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just marvel at the skill of Apple PR
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during this transition of leaking this
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to the press like six months ago so that
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way we are now over two hours into our
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podcast talking about the new iphone
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event before we even really talked about
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the headphone jack removal I don't know
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of a PR literally I think the parts
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leaked leaked before I will be our duh i
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think apple PR ly two major publication
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you know parsley all the time but like
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you had like The Wall Street Journal and
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Bloomberg no major publications
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publishing as fact that the next iPhone
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was going to have the same exterior case
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design and lose the headphone jack so
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you see all the bad news early so then
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by the time actually comes around now
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it's like it's like old news it's like
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no one's like when people some people
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talking about it but like most of the
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analysis and reviews of this thing are
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now just like oh yeah yeah you know I as
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contestado
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but you know it's like such genius
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section III don't interpret the genius
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of PR is totally don't think it's a PR
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thing I think it is a completely like if
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you want to distribute the the
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what's going to be in the product that's
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other companies but in general the
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phone and not the the next year's eight
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early and it was inevitable that
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everything would come out and and then
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maybe you can credit PR later for
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yes this really is true to get that all
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the way whenever we talked about that on
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to learn from this event is Apple please
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tell me why you removed the sport like a
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justification we've all talked about
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many possible justification is now Apple
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its own words why they did this and the
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didn't go small like for example the
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stereo speakers pretend that they had a
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second speaker but it was right next to
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the other one next to that little girl
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that actually isn't a girl in front of
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anything right
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if they had actually done that it might
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have been easy for them to say you know
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we remove the hello Jackie you might be
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wondering why well once removed it we
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had room for the second speaker and it's
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twice as loud as not a great like they
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didn't think small they didn't say let
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me just look at this visit the physical
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design of this phone tell you what is in
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the space where the headphone jack used
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to be because there's something there
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it's not empty space if you look at the
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little picture they showed you know you
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can see there's not this big place that
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holds the headphone jack so there's
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something there and they could have said
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we didn't have the headphone jack
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kinda like many people did with the
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macbook one we don't have a second USB
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port because look at the thing that's
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there and it does not a millimeter to
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spare i don't have this square despair
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they didn't say that they said they led
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with that are more thing of courage like
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they took the high road but as the
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saying look we get rid of crap all the
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time we get rid of things that are old
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we make buttons not move
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uh it's it's the reason we say courage
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because we know people are going to be
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angry about it and take someone with the
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guts to drop legacy serial ports or the
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floppy drive
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for optical drives from desktop
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computers that are gigantic we do that
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despite the fact that we know there will
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be a backlash because we think it's the
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right thing to do in terms of driving
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progress and we're willing to take the
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you know the yelling which isn't really
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a justification it's more of an
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explanation why does Apple do things
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that make us mad because they think it's
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right and they're willing to take the
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heat and the more I think about it the
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more I say that that is the inn in the
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absence of any actual concrete really
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compelling explanation like it makes our
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phones it you know now our phones don't
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break or something like fantastical or
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whatever that is the real honest and
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only explanation is it this is a thing
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that Apple does because i think it's the
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right thing to do and come at me haters
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migrants with it that's what it
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basically said which i find that the
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more i think about it more satisfying
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then specific reasons that I could
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nitpick at because this is not a
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specific reason is merely an explanation
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i say yet that's why they do it
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yeah I mean you know if you look at like
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all the reasons that we've all been
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arguing about all summer about why this
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is good or bad or justified or
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unjustified the whole summer we kept
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saying let's wait and see what apple
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their reason is and it is disappointing
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to basically hear their reason is we
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felt like it was not we felt like they
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did they did say that like I feel like
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it's moving progress forward like but
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that doesn't mean anything if you're
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looking if you're looking for a
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justification there's nothing that was
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we've gone through all the reasons
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there's nothing they could say that is
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compelling enough to like there's a
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trade-off like we all know about the
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inconvenience and problems
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what is balancing that on the other side
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there is no specific feature or
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attribute of this phone and there could
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never be any specific feature attributed
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the stone that would explain that
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adequately the only explanation is the
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actual explanation which is they do
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things like this to sort of you know
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push the human race forward to quote
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from their ads and they know people are
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mad about it and are going to be mad
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justifiably not like unjustifiably like
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they know their reasons to get mad about
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why does Apple do these things because
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that encourages a little
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everyone but because they are willing to
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take the heat for that they're willing
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to prop plow bravely forward allow
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people to be legitimately angry at them
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for legitimate inconveniences because
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they believe they will come out the
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other side eventually they came out the
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other side of all the other ones they're
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going to copy this and you can we as we
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did argue about is it too soon is it too
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like did they get rid of the floppy too
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soon or too late or was it exactly the
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right time
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maybe they were a little bit early in
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the lobby did we come out the other side
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of that yes we did time is on their side
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a lot of our determination 10 years from
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now about this do they go too early to
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late or was it a mistake because they
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could backpedal like the glass front and
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back phone where they too early to late
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or was that not a great idea turns out
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probably not a great idea with the
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current formulation of class so they
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didn't do that again they're going to
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try again maybe with the the iphone 8 or
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whatever next year so maybe we'll come
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back to it but anyway we'll have to be
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able to make those determinations and
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height but there-there exhalation I'm
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like I said I it makes sense to me and I
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feel like it's the only thing that could
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possibly say and it's better than them
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trying to shut up and drive and dance
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and try to like convince because they're
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not going to convince you it is going to
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be inconvenient and the main point was
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we are willing to take
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we are willing to take your anger bring
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it to us and we will bring it to them
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and people bring it to them and hey they
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put the adapter in the box so that be
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submitted basically everything they can
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sort of not doing this and I totally
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believe this is something that would
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have to happen eventually
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infinite time scale blah blah this is
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when they've chosen to do it
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they're willing to take the heat I think
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will mostly be okay yeah yeah i mean i
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agree that they did this in the best way
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they could if they're going to remove
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the port you know good job included in
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the box and good job making additional
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chapters nine dollars
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it'd be nice if you if the attacker was
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also a charge through adapter because
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people do that a lot but ok we'll take
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what we can get for now third parties
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will sell that I guarantee ya
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yeah anyway I mean it was it
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timing-wise like if they did this
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without the air pods which we'll get to
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in a little bit i think it would also be
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a little bit weaker so I mean again with
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the airports are wild card we don't know
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how well they work where they can be
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like i'll talk about them in a little
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bit but I think everything is in place
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for for this to be fairly judged in
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hindsight five years from now i guess
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we'll just wait for the USA Today
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stories to come out about it and the
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complaints in or whatever advisors at
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the tech press already went through this
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the mainstream press is going to have a
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big thing about it it's too late if this
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turns out to be a colossal mistake it's
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too late for them to fix it next year
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strong but that's why we're just kind of
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said I kinda like it was too late for
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them to fix it on the 4s right but when
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the five came out no glass on both sides
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but I i think that most would be okay
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and if anything I think they spend more
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time trying to justify them they needed
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to like patient they could have just
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done who is it Tom broke our dan Rather
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who signed off as last broadcast with
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the word courage they could have just
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done that and then just moved on but the
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hell yea that the courage thing that was
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tone-deaf I mean that tone down like
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that there's something there's something
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to it like that there are it in in the
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abstract when talking about companies
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why do some kind of these things and
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other ones don't they
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it does come down to I don't know
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boldness goes with its it is courage in
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you know in the context of companies
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making decisions about their products
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like if that is your frame of reference
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within that frame there are moves that
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are more courageous and creators
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masqueraders an apple has historically
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been a company that's willing to do the
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more courageous things even if it falls
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on its way sometimes that's a defining
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characteristic of apples a company and
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so if you don't want to it's not the
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same look real courage real life now
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it's not a bunch of companies picking
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product features for their products but
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i'm i'm hard-pressed to find a better
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word again use that will be our there's
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nothing really left me to say about the
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headphone jack removal at this point I
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you know we waited for there to be a
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there wasn't one none of the reasons
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they gave with the exception of courage
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were reasons that made this the reason
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that you had to remove the port to
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achieve like that
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could have launched their pods they
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could have boost you know they could
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have promoted lightning headphones and
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block some of their own lightning
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earpods they could and all those things
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without removing the headphone port like
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removing the headphone port was not a
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necessity for any of those advances so
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they never it's so the courageous part
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was really just sayin all right well I
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guess we're gonna anger everybody here
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and you to do something that serves a
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few of our goals and doesn't really
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serve any of yours
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well but its service services just like
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the floppy disk felt like it what what
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did its feeling afraid of lobbyists help
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users like what we think we should you
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different rule media is it mr. crappie
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doing it this instant but they're saying
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like well but what I do for my
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headphones all digital audio interface
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on lightning blah blah nevermind the
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half the things they should plug into
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their like I'm assuming they're your
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butts are not using digital audio
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because the back inside the little your
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pods right anyway but they say the air
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pods are the thing I got you know we we
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think there's a better way for you to
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hear sound in your ears that come out of
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your phone and plug in with this really
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old port and they're offering an actual
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concrete products not just like speckly
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like here at the airport's maybe the
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airports suck and this and that will
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definitely make the wrong time to have
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done this because people want to plug
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your things and the other hand they do
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have they do have answered why remove it
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makes more women phone and we think
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there's better ways for you to listen to
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audio and I you know if the airport's
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end up being really good and don't have
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any of the downsides of Bluetooth don't
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cut out on you and sound quality is
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pretty good and they magically connect
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everything and everything syncs up
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whatever I think that probably will be a
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better way to listen to audio from your
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phone then having a string going from
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your pocket up two years to get snagged
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on things so it'll be great for the
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people who can who are willing to spend
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a hundred and sixty dollars to buy those
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earpods who don't lose them who do who
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they're charged up for and who can
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actually wear them like one of problems
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i have like Apple is replacing this port
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that i can use any have fun i want with
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with a with a noose with you know
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allegedly you know all these better
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things one of the major ones of which is
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advanced earbuds
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well I can't wear earbuds because of
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whatever is wrong with my ears that
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makes them hurt
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like hell like you mutineers and I know
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a lot of people have me your news but
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you have the adapter like it's not like
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you don't have any solutions yes but
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what I'm saying is that there's lots of
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people like that old analog port one of
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the things to great about it is that it
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is universally it satisfies so many
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different people's needs and desires and
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it is so broad and watered and watered
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enables for so many different use cases
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and apples replacing it with something
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is actually extremely narrow i think i
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need to be the voice of reason on this
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1i I don't see why this is such a big
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problem given that there including the
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adapter in the box and BuzzFeed had a
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really great article that actually
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marketed sent to us privately before we
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recorded where they talked to several
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different apple employees and executives
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and they said in so den is Rick Ricky or
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Richie Oh said this is a quote it was
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holding us back from a number of things
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we wanted to put into the iphone it was
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fighting for space with camera
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technologies and processors and battery
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life and frankly when there's a better
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more modern solution available it's
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crazy to keep around
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I think that that's legitimately what
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they thought I like like one of you
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saying earlier I don't think this was a
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nefarious I don't think this was ill
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intentions they genuinely just wanted
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the space in there and one of the things
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we haven't talked about yet is that the
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battery life in in the seven is i would
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say considerably better than the success
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is that it replaces some of that is
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because of a much better central
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processor which again will talk about
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sometime between now and tomorrow when
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we finally got it right but some of that
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is also I believe because of a bigger
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battery and let's suppose the batteries
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exactly the same size for the sake of
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discussion
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there's a different placed taptic engine
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that presumably is a little larger
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there's things taking up space in this
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camera in this camera in this phone and
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I am more than willing to give up a
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headphone port that i personally don't
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use very often at all in order to get
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those advancements and the thing that
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really bothers me that I truly don't
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understand is the entire internet
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getting their junk on a wad because they
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say blue
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tooth sucks i use a really shitty pair a
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bluetooth headphones constantly i use
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them 40 hours a week at work I don't
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think these headphones like 20 bucks
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brand-new there will put a link in the
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show notes I don't have any problem with
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them i use them for a day or two and
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then I charge them overnight
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I don't find any latency issues whenever
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I you if i'm watching a video as long as
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I'm on the mac after watching the video
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using either safari or any of the
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quicktime any of the media players that
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are built into the mac no problems with
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latency they sound just fine for a
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regular person to marco i am not saying
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they would sound good enough to me
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they sound just fine it wasn't this fun
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on this counter i don't understand
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whatever that is that it wasn't
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immediately that well either way either
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way either way the point is I don't have
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any issues with disconnections and if I
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do it's very rare and it's only when I
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haven't been using them for the last 20
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minutes and they've liked I'm themselves
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out and going to sleep i'm not seeing
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these problems don't exist from other
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people but golly I don't understand why
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I'm the special friggin snowflake of
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bluetooth and why I am the only one that
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doesn't have this project you're not
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using in a challenging situation like
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Bluetooth has a bunch of things that
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it's supposed to do and it does a whole
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bunch of them really badly pairing
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quickly depends on your device in my car
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doesn't do a good job Joe Jackson
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disaster sharing a device between
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multiple things also a disaster if you
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only ever have it paired with one thing
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that you never move it away from its in
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one place like but but you're not you're
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not challenging like the job a bluetooth
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is not just to fulfill that one use case
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you have the job losses to be this
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wireless low power tech and i would say
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power-wise i'm assuming apples one uses
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less power the bluetooth to it in theory
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because we haven't tried it yet
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Apple solution is technically better
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than bluetooth because it fixes the
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things that are clunky and annoying
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about bluetooth and I assume it also
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uses less energy so that I mean that's
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why I like I to another thing i'm happy
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to see Apple moving beyond bluetooth
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they keep waiting and doing these
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different bluetooth standards and it's
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just it's just annoying music we have we
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have one little shared speaker in our
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bedroom that my wife uses something
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announcer booth and I use sometimes
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bluetooth and I hate the fact that when
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i go to try to play from i can't select
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it because I was paralyzed don't have to
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go and manually connected to my phone
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right up by going through a series of
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screens their attempt to solve this with
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this little magic case that you open up
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the lid on and bring something who knows
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that works but there's there is a real
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problem we're trying to address just
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because your use cases running those
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problems doesn't mean the bluetooth
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can't be better and i think because it's
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such a common complaint is not terrible
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it's better than nothing it's good for
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the wireless thing so beautiful i do use
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bluetooth speakers is nice but everyone
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who uses it a lot and use all the
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different cases sees the weak spots and
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so is looking for
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usually the next version of Luther's
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gonna fix all this but in the end
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eventually we're just going to throw
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ourselves at the mercy is out of apple's
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proprietary thing it's kinda like
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everything before about the little RF
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dongles for logic mice who knows what
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tech they're using their but the
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batteries last forever and I never had
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any problems with it I'm kind of glad
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that bluetooth but yeah I mean my main
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concern with with with things like this
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the reason why I resist these things and
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I complain about these things when they
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happen is very similar between you know
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the the headphone jack removal moving to
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bluetooth and the end buttons on track
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pads and home buttons moving to 3d touch
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vibration motors whatever else the main
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reason I complain about this kind of
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stuff is that the things that were there
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before the simple old established ways
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of doing things
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headphone jacks buttons those things
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have incredible advantages in simplicity
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and reliability and just and I mean
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simplicity not just like electrically
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and mechanically but like using them you
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know there's a there's great simplicity
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there and there are so many cases and
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technology these days where we take
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something that is incredibly simple that
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has worked forever like a button and we
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say you know what we have a great
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solution of this problem this problem by
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the way we just invented that we now
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call it a problem and when I think it's
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inevitable these things are going away
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even though that was not necessarily the
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case before but now we're going to solve
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this problem everything in air quotes i
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can make a fair question this whole
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discussion everything everywhere
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we're going to solve this problem this
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whole thing that works just fine
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making a new thing that is better but
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more complicated and we were saying it's
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better acres in some ways it is better
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in some ways it's more advanced maybe
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it's wireless
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maybe it allows software control where
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there wasn't software control before
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whatever the case that's that's that's
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what's so compelling about these things
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they are better in many big ways but
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they also get worse in a number of big
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ways that we tend to gloss over or
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minimizing oh yeah you can destroy
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anything anymore now you gotta do this
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parent dance or you can actually this
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button is never going to ever feel like
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a button again there might be now
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software introduce delays in the windows
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button feels like a button like there's
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a it's we we do this to so many things
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in technology and it you know in general
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we do get ourselves ahead and we do make
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progress I think on the whole but i do
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think it's worth evaluating these things
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very critically with lots of scrutiny
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the decisions we make before we say yes
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it is definitely better yes we need to
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get rid of this thing
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identifying which ones are the ones like
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broken and I which of the ones are you
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terrible mistake to move all these
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things to be solid state or whatever you
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know and it should have been you know
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like the car interior you need a certain
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number of knobs like if every time they
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do that move your instinct is always to
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say this is the mistaken you're making
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things worse then you're probably not
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you know you did the task is to fit to
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discern to look back at your history of
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judging these things you see when was I
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right or was I wrong and how can i apply
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that to new things that are like this
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that are presented for me
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will this be something that in hindsight
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i will look at it saves a no-brainer
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like I think we all agree the floppy
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drive was or will it be something that
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we look back on and say that was a
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terrible mistake like so many things in
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car interiors in the eighties and
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nineties that ended up to be terrible
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ideas they said you know what let's go
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back to the old idea because this no one
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turned out to be bad and that's the
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challenge of of figure out technology
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that the headphone port i feel like
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because it is a port
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because we have so much past experience
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with ports it's a it's I'm there is
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something on the side to say this is
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something we should get rid of there's
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also something outside because I'm like
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all the other parts we talked about this
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is so old and so common it's way more
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common than the serial printer port that
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was expunged from Max or never right so
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it is difficult to judge but i don't
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know if this is going to end up being a
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mistake all i can say is that their
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presentation of it was I think honest
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and direct like Casey said they have
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reason none of those reasons justified
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in the end I think the most important
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thing is the Apple thinks there's a
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better way to get audio out of your
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phones and they may be wrong because
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whenever such tried their new solutions
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but will you know the public will decide
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in many years eve apples things have
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everything even available stick to his
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guns the reputation is always an iphone
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but just you know I like iphones would
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just be aware that they're going to use
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with audio that will not be his success
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for apple for that if that's what
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everyone says about iphones in five
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years but in five years of no one
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mentions this and have fun part is gone
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from all phones
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I think you have to put a notch in the
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the win column for apple on it and say
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people are cranky there was massive and
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contains just like there was one of
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those transitions and we got through it
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right now i'm going to give them better
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than fifty percent chance that they're
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going to pull this off
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oh I think they they are definitely pull
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this off because no one else is making
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iphones for people to buy instead like I
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mean like do you think android phones
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and restaurants will drop that point
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what I'm saying pull it off as in like
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eventually nobody should floppies but
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their pcs anymore although i should set
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up because I'm sure there's some pieces
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you can buy with a private driver but
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anyway i think i'm pretty sure you could
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still pay del like 30 bucks to put a
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floppy drive in your entire new battery
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box boy as too much no one's by him
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anymore this specialty item now but
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anyway like if they will succeed if it
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if this slowly fades from all products
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just like floppy drives did I mean it it
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will just because they well it at least
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feed from phones because they know they
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can set the standard will it fade from
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macbooks and iPads to i don't know i
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think it certainly says something that
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the macbook has only one other port and
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the yet they included a headphone port
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they but I'm actually like really old
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backpack a dream that important that no
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I mean I guess I'm done arguing
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yes but i I just I i disagree with the
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fundamental premise of this port was
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goat was doomed period and had to be
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replaced i disagree with the time that
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had to be replaced now I don't think
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that's courage i think that's that's
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other factors that other entries but i
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wouldn't call that courage and and I and
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I am sad that it is it if it was not
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courage as a caution
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what word would you just it's not
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caution um it's not it's not a timidness
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it's not maybe hubris
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well yeah but like hubris would be like
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maybe he would say we believe there's a
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better way like to believe that you have
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such a better way and actually you're
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mistaken you really believe you have a
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better way than this headphone port this
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proven itself over time I think that's a
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reasonable words but humorous tends to
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go hand-in-hand with courage and the 22
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really believe you have this better way
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into you know I mean there's a fine line
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between courage and stupidity i guess
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and hubris is where that line is drawn
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yeah i mean it the reality is again
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they're gonna be fine and we are going
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to start we're just all gonna accept
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this as normal and stop talking about it
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in like a week
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it's gonna be fine but i do think we've
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lost something here and I and I don't
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think this is necessary the right
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decision and I think this was a decision
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that's more in Apple's interest than its
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customers interest is making the product
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worse for apples interests
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oh I disagree so I i understand that
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there are a lot of people that are not
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living the the fancy bluetooth lifestyle
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Erin in her car does not have a
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bluetooth connection i get that but at
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some point we have to say enough is
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enough this is the future and they apple
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if we believe them if we take them at
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face value they have fixed all of the
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common complaints about bluetooth or
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they were never a problem in the first
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damn place with a whole bunch of
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asterisks I I don't think so so look at
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the people that look at the things
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everyone complains and moans about when
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it comes to bluetooth
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oh you have to charge it oh now i have
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to worry about charging because a life
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is so difficult and i have to worry
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about charging uh-huh well look at that
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you get three hours of charge on the air
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pods for 15 minutes
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like I could
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no it used the restroom in more time
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than it takes for these things to charge
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and give me three hours of charge
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how are you spending the next trick I
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was being facetious but my point is that
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include a shower
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he dropped his phone in the toilet and
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efficiently allocate limited ok I could
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jump in the shower I'm something about
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it like i was thinking about it work
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like the point is you can do you can go
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and talk to a friend at work in 15
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minutes and next thing you know your
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your earbud your air air pods are
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charged so i don't believe and if you
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find that charging is that freakin
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difficult
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oh come on i don't see why that's a
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problem at all and so a pairing that it
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has been fixed with the air pots and if
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it's fixed with their pods and fixed
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with all these beat headphones beats
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headphones it you have to assume that
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this is going to trickle down to other
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devices and other manufacturers probably
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through an fi program it will probably
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be a common thing i'll just like the
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battery case trickle down all the
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advanced integration that has with the
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phone that other better cases can do at
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yeah but I don't view that as an
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apples-to-apples comparison at all i
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think it's i think it's very much so I i
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think apple is very is very much ok with
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making it you know making standards and
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things and and and extending things that
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its own products get special treatment
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in the system and get better and get get
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more capabilities or better capabilities
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than what their party stuff can do i
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would not at all expect apple to share
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the abilities of the this new w1 blue
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chip sets in these things and and they
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all the various software integrations
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with like pairing with a quick little
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window and seeking your pair of progress
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between all your different devices
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I would never expect that to come to
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anything else that is not an
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apple-branded headphone I don't know
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about that i give that a reasonable
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chance that i'll do that just because I
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mean obviously well they'll charge you
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for they'll make money off it will be
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more than just license fee because this
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is an apple-designed chip that you'll
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probably have to license from but I i
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mean i don't think it's likely because
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that tends to be the thing out but i
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think it's within the realm of
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possibility because there are a lot of
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again if this this parent thing works
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we're just assuming it does but it
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really is as good as they say
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it's kind of in Apple's interest to have
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as many products as possible
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yep that all only work with their things
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so I'm gonna wait and see on that one
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it really just depends on how much money
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i think there is actually even bother
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was like yeah as an accessory market for
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it but we shouldn't bother with
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bluetooth skills that need but if
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there's a lot of interest and it doesn't
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cost them a lot of money the license
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these chips you know we'll see the
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earpods aren't even shipping it so who
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knows what the maybe the limitation is
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the new w one chip or whatever so it
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could be that w1 is licensed for the w5
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is but it all depends on how successful
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this is how successful the air pods are
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and how successful apple is at
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convincing people that they really do
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have better way for you to get audio out
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of your phone then deploy get into that
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from Port yep so they've they've done
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batteries and charging as well as you
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possibly can in the year of 2016
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they've done pairing from everything
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we've been told and taking them at face
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value as well as you can 2016
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importantly because you are right and
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calling me out of my my love of my
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bluetooth headphones at work
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to be fair I never ever pair those
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things with anything else and it's a
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friggin nightmare if i go to do that but
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with the air pods that's been fixed and
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apparently it's easy as pie and use
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as you pair with any of your devices
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like freaking magic all of your right
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devices repaired so if we believe that I
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cloud is magical
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so that's been fixed the the switching
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has been fixed the pairing has been
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I kid you not I don't ever see latency
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on my really crappy twenty-dollar
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bluetooth headphones as long as I'm not
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in chrome if I'm in chrome its latency
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city i'll be the first to tell you but
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on safari on quicktime on on preview on
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one quick look
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anything else it's fine i never get
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disconnected because my arm is in the
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way I can walk like 20 30 feet away i'm
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still connected i can still listen to
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music or podcasts or what have you
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I don't see how latency is an issue i
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don't see how any of this is an issue
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the one thing you can come back to and
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say is well what we had was fine
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ok i guess it was fine and if you want
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to continue to have that thing that was
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use the freaking adapter but in the end
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of the day
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Apple wanted to make a phone that was
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the same size that was a design
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constraint for better or worse and i'm
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getting my I'm getting dragged over the
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coals in the chat because all we could
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have just made a bigger and added space
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for the for the headphone port sure they
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could have but for better or worse
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better of good right or bad wrong or
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indifferent doesn't matter the point of
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the matter is they wanted to keep the
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thing the same size and in order to do
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that and make the improvements they
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wanted they had to ditch the headphone
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port it says it in this but fees but a
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buzzfeed article they had to do it and
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so you're gonna go tonight for one
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argument again actually kind of really
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say that by the way it should know
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shouldn't have gone like it they didn't
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have to like they could have made room
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they there was room in there they were
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they could have gotten room out of it
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somehow they did it all the other phones
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they could do it again--that's that I'd
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like maybe the center buzzfeed article
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but on stage they shied away from that
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because like I said there is something
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where the headphone port was and that
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something is essential if you were to
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cut it out with an exacto knife the
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phone will not function anymore but
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that's again cure with the macbook one
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if you had designed from the beginning
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as it was a success in the six you can
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find room for it surprisingly that's not
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that's not the whole thing I think one
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of the the angles on it that they
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mentioned in passing that we haven't
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really talked about too much as the idea
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that is a unique tasker that that port
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only serve one purpose as opposed to the
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multitasking lightning port they can do
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all sorts of different things that's a
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plus and minus there and that
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multi-purpose means i go but what if you
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want to charge the same time it's
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multi-purpose and it's just one port
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maybe they should have three lighting
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ports in the bottom and then I'll solve
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this problem right but uh you know
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they're there are other there are
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reasons to think that like you know if
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you don't believe like this thing was
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inevitably doing it's hard to let go of
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something that's been around for so long
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because it's so compatible and it's so
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ubiquitous but really in the grand
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scheme of things holding computers and
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only perform one function and that
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function ever changes over the years
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that don't have a good life like that
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you know where we want ports to do
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multiple things how at this point we
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have a port that like does power and
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runs monitors
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you can run ethernet over all the same
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port obviously if you just have one of
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those pores crappy but yeah like that
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there are so many trends moving that
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direction is also minuses for wires that
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that I feel personally when I have my
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thing plugged in and there's a wire
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sneaking from my arms I think I do get
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caught on things and yup we've all had
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the thing where your pocket yanked out
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every years and I am instantly
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infuriated by this video I hate it and
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that's why I've been looking into these
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wireless things like I'm not saying this
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justifies it but there's there is
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another side and everything that I've
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mentioned does not benefit Apple except
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for the part where I pay them hundred
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sixty bucks for a little earpods but
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there are consumer benefits of the other
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side of it so at this point I'm still
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willing to give Apple the benefit of the
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doubt which is why I'm willing to even
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try this phone out if i try to find out
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it turns out their wireless solution is
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crap and ms my headphone port I'll
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before it's the first to say it but I'm
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at right now I'm willing to give it a go
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alright let's move on but performance
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was the last major category they had
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where they talked about the a-10 which
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is the new chip it is for core there is
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there are two high-performance cores
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which are forty percent faster than the
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outgoing a9 into high-efficiency cores
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which run at twenty percent of the power
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of the other two cores and that's a
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really interesting and really clever way
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of trying to squeeze a little more juice
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a little more run time i should say out
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of these phones and it reminds me a lot
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to channel neutral reminds me a lot of
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the visit the North Star that that was
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the first to shut down cylinders if you
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didn't need a bunch of powers you were
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like driving on the highway for example
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just maintaining your speed to say at
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the end so you had this humongous v8 in
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your Cadillac the thing would just shut
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down half of the v8 in order to save
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yourself a little gas maybe it wasn't
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the North Star Maker is a different one
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but that same idea happened all over the
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place and still goes on from time to
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time that and don't from time to time it
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is everywhere cylinder deactivation is
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like a standard feature of every car
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with an inch that's too big for nowadays
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yep exactly but sounds like it's really
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good the performance improvements are
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are impressive as always the GPU
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apparently six poor fifty percent faster
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than what's in the a 93 times what's in
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the the a8 that's in the the six models
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and most importantly to me
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apparently we found plenty of other
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things to talk about this episode but
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most importantly to me they said you
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will get two hours more than a success
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when you're using the seven roughly and
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one hour more on a 7 plus then you got
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on the success plus so we are actually
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seeing an increase in battery life even
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without making the device bigger which I
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am super on board with I am genuinely
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stoked about this and in fact i was
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really debating going plus club this
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year because of that that to camera
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system like we were talking about
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earlier and also because of the improved
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battery life and granted i would still
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get a lot more battery life if I want +
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club with the seven but the fact that
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I'm what I I feel like I'm on the ragged
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edge of comfortable on battery life on
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my success plus and this is going to
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give me another two hours in theory i
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should be great i should be good to go
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outside like conferences and then i'll
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use the super proprietary humpback if I
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need to
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yeah but I i am all on board i think
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this is all great things and not
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terribly unexpected outside of the
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battery stuff but all good things all
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around the battery stuff we expected to
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is exactly what we talked about it they
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use the same case for three years in a
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row and the system-on-a-chip becomes
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more efficient and this is before we
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even like this is better than even
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thought because not only is
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system-on-chip become more efficient
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from a new process but they have the
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little the low-power so to limp mode
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things which is a very clever design i'm
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not sure about the phones are you doing
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that but I don't think it's mostly
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unprecedented in desktop CPUs where you
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would have non-uniform course like you
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know these will see cores that are just
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like one-third of the of the dye area
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but otherwise presently fully functional
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and you use them when you want you need
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to instead of his power cycling things
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are disabling course there's the whole
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there's the arm big dot little thing but
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and I think this is just one of those
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limitations but i don't know of any
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other devices that use it in the phone
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or computer space
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yeah and and only get better as they
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assuming the 11 so on and so forth to
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get better about like being able to
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switch between them faster and getting
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smarter about when to use them and also
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the stuff anyway we get the benefit of
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same size case a bigger battery because
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they're slightly more room
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maybe even the same size battery
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lower-power system-on-chip equals more
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battery I was saying like ten fifteen
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percent you know I can't do the math in
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my head but two hours that is that is a
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you know if that is even remotely close
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to true that is something that everybody
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will notice and it is almost exactly
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every market you ask for double battery
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life but I think so no I don't have four
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or five times more better life as well
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but like area that you know again a good
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weekend around a bar of soap but if that
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to our figures remotely close to true
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i'm really happy about that as someone
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who doesn't have battery problems in my
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phone because I feel like that is the
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substantial battery improving we're
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talking about i granted again they got
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it by using the same size case with
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three years maybe probably kiss that
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goodbye for next year's super skinny
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phone but enjoy it while you can
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yeah i mean this is great news if it if
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it works out the way they say with
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real-world use and it might Apple Apple
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is they have you know kind of a mixed
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record of like adhering to their
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benchmarks from you know from reality
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usually if you do the things that are in
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their benchmarks usually they're
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actually pretty good but the question is
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is more like whether real-world use is
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well reflected by the benchmarks in this
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case you know what we've seen for most
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of their most recent advances in battery
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life and in devices phones and laptops
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the vast majority of of recent advances
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have not really been in reducing the
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amount of power while you're like using
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it heavily it's mostly been in in
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reducing power used while it's pretty
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much idle or doing very very simple
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tasks and that's what this most likely
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is you know because of that new
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asymmetric or design where you have the
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the low power cord and high power cord
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that's awesome because of that that's
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going to be most likely a savings only
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in like idle and low-power states
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some questions that because if the the
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quote-unquote working flat out
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guess it is a game that you can play the
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game was is x2 years old and you can run
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the whole game just using the wimpy
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course you will see a huge savings just
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playing that game flat-out I don't know
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if we're close to that point I don't
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know what the threshold is but because
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we've come so far you show that graph
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everything goes to quote-unquote wimpy
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cars are like faster than the iphone 5
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or whatever like i don't know the actual
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specs on them are but like there's some
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passed on that we used to think was fast
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that these little wimpy cars are faster
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than so I feel like this one is more
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like you're driving most
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like you're driving most
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to the time on four cylinders and only
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when you put your foot down to the all
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come on but this is just speculation is
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I have no idea what the threshold is but
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i but but it comes down to is I think
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there are an increasing number of tasks
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on your phone that can be handled by the
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week cpus I like a pic like email and
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maybe even web browsing is like that and
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you just save the big guns for when you
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really need it as opposed to the
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situation we are like macbook swear it's
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like a look if you're just going to be
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compiling software virus
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everything's going to be running max and
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you know what can you do or you're
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playing a game and desktop games just
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run everything and max there's no game
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that you're running with like the wimpy
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correspond phones who knows
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yeah i mean it remains to be seen also
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like as a developer can can you set like
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your process affinity to one of the good
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life can you say run this thread only on
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the wimpy course
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dammit i was going to ask that same
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question I rely really i really doubt
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that I wouldn't this is extensive
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totally the kind of thing that Apple is
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going to want to have complete control
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over because they're gonna you know
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they're going to tweak it they're gonna
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be like well the first version we had
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this very simple algorithm which isn't
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that great in the second version the
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NCAA 11 we can change states like a
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hundred times faster and much smarter
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about doing it based on data like you
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gotta give them time to ramp up on this
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I can't imagine them giving like you
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know core affinity attributes that type
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of low-level thing it just doesn't seem
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like something they would do now also
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like can use all four cores at once or
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like do when the high-power one is on to
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the deactivate that low-power one
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question you use all four because i'm
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thinking it was geekbench scores and I
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bet like the reason you get the
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multi-threaded boosters I think you can
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use all for once
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yeah maybe and we'll find out but yeah
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this that that is very you know just as
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a programmer that is very interesting to
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me to have to have this kind of
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architecture and you know it even if I
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can't manually direct it or or hint it
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to do things the way I think they should
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be done it will still be cool to try to
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target things to those low power cord
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like all right let me try to you know
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it's kind of like people who like back
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before the previous had a plug-in
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variant when they would like try to get
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their previous to stay on all the
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electric mode for as long as possible
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and their daily driving it's like I feel
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like as a developer like how how can i
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write this this queue or this thread or
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this entire app to try to stay on the
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low power cord the entire
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time or as long as possible be a WMD
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session with some you know iOS
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instruments demo showing you that like
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as we can see here in the graph this big
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jump that's when it goes up to the
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bigger course if you can keep it down
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below them exactly
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yeah that that's gonna be cool i'm
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looking forward to this I I do I'm a
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little I'm kind of like wait-and-see
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skeptical on the battery claim simply
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because it sure does sound like they
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just improved hydel power without really
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addressing like using your power but
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we'll see
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so all-in-all what would you say since i
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haven't heard anything about ratings and
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certainly I know that john loves to give
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numerical ratings
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what would you say about the
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presentation today I thought it was
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really good i can't say i've taught my
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head I can't say I was really
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disappointed in anything I'm not in love
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with the synthetic boca but i still
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think it's a move in the right direction
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ish i was really pleased with this and
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and i think they did a really great job
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Marco yeah
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overall pretty good event pretty good
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pretty good presentation pretty good
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quality overall and the products they
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announced seem like you know nothing was
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incredibly surprising except maybe the
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be replacing of the watch one cpu with
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the watch to cpu that was pretty cool
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you know other than that nothing was
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like an amazing surprise necessarily but
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overall solid up solid updates to the
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watching the phone I i do obviously very
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much miss the mac as a thing that was
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updated and talk about ever but
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hopefully it will be resolved soon i
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really hope so and otherwise the full
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for what was announced today pretty
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solid updates and I'm looking forward to
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getting my hand the new phone
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well getting both hands around my new
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phone that's for sure
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one won't be enough Johnny I miss the
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days when I didn't know things like it
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was kinda disappointing that we knew
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almost everything here but i was excited
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by the things that I saw almost all the
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things they were doing well there was
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there is no surprises except pleasant
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one sport that way because all the
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things that were potentially
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disappointing we knew about
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and the pleasant surprise we didn't talk
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about the storage terrorists but like we
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knew about all that a time we knew that
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you know basically new the 32 1 tonne a
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256 thing or whatever but the things we
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didn't know about were Pleasant didn't
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know about the the series one getting
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the new cpu and we didn't know about the
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success and the success plus getting rid
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of the 16 which is a pleasant surprise
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and yet not typical of Tim Cook's apple
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and needless to say absolutely the right
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thing to do with 16 is ridiculous
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it would be better if the current was 64
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128 256 but beggars can't be choosers
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this is positive progress so I mean when
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I came out of the event i was excited to
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try the products they showed and I'm
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excited to see my wife's inevitable new
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watch and see your play pokemon go on it
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and the DSP just excited to check out
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the new phones and see what the new
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services like and the grips and stuff
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like that
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I'm excited that the new phone is faster
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and that the camera is better and you
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know we knew there was gonna be no max
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for the most part I still I still
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believe that they will be updated this
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year and i'll be probably more excited
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about that event than this thing but
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overall I was satisfied with the
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presentation and happy with it and
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thought it was done well I even kinda
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like the weird musical act at the end
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see is very good actually
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awesome cool alright well thank you very
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much to our three sponsors this week
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hover tracker and betterment and we'll
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see you next week
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now the show is over they didn't even
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mean to be in because it was accidental
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it was accidental John didn't
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research Marco and Casey would let him
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because it was accidental was accidental
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and you can find the show know today
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DP that and if your twitter follow them
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yes eyl ISS so that's Casey list and a
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co-pay rm20 Marco Arment rc2 recuse is
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we did it I can't believe this is so
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long I know Hans room so i decided i'm
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about to go to Portland for the last
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XOXO and I decided a few days ago you
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know in advance of ordering the new
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iphone you know in about 24 hours now I
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think practical God so in advance of
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that I decided let me switch back to my
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plus that I had for a few days and take
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it on being this trip and that'll kind
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of help me like giving like one final
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thing like do I want to go plus because
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I really want the features in the
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battery of the plus i want that I want
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that camera i want the big battery and
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when i'm actually using the + to do
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things i do love having that big screen
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that I love having extra screen space i
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love seeing like Instagram photos bigger
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i love seeing any photos bigger see my
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own photos they're taking camera photos
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and processing and everything just extra
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space and web pages etc so I thought I
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let me move back to the place for a few
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days as one final sanity check to see if
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i can really like you know live with it
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as as a size my plus 64 gigs my success
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that I've been living on 128 and i use
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iCloud photo library can see this is
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going so that so 22 to transfer your
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your current backup from a 128 gig
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device to a 64 gig device when you're
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using iCloud photo library so problem
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number one I tried I I'd forgotten about
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the size difference
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try it and of course it says oh sorry we
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can't restore this back up to this phone
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because there's not enough space okay so
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i go i go to my to my success
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ok how do i how do I clear space from
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this device now I've heard over the
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years that Apple slowly getting better
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at this process and there's still some
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way to go i would say so problem number
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one when you're using iCloud photo
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library it smartly manage your storage
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which means that unless the phone is
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incredible on space and everybody's
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anything however it also doesn't give
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you away to delete anything without
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actually deleting it from your iCloud
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photo library so i bleeding everywhere
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you can eat so normally all the pictures
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and video that you take on the phone
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even after they update uploaded to
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iPhoto library as far as i can tell they
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don't leave the phone but they don't get
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to lead off the phone even when it's
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safe to the old way to do this was to
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import your photos into a photo app on
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your computer and then use the photo app
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or use image capture to open up the
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phone as if it were a camera and delete
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all the photos off the phone that way
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because there's nowhere in the system
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settings on the phone anywhere where you
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can delete photos out your photo library
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there like that's just not a thing
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so as far as i can tell I looked all
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over the place and couldn't find a and
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in retrospect that's probably a good
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thing because of things people do
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accidentally anyway but even with iPhoto
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library you can't say all right there's
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no button that says please free up as
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much space as you safely can anything
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that's that's an iCloud please leave it
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off my phone right now there's no button
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to do that anywhere so I like remove all
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the music i remove all the podcast and
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listen to remove some big games i've
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ever played because who cares they're
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moving raj man all these things
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eventually the only thing i can do is i
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have to get rid of this giant block of
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photos it everything else about making a
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space to do this i had to sign i had to
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disable iCloud photo library which is
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kind of a scary thing to do even though
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I like I here and like my computer I
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have all these like I have it like in
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photos app right there so I know I'm not
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losing anything and that's all backed up
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even if i can get all crazy i have like
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i have a mac backup like the back plays
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the time machines are SuperDuper ok I
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know I'm safe still a crazy thing to do
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from your phone like to disabled and
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then because image capture won't let you
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delete photos off the phone if iCloud
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photo library is enabled so that thing I
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had to do and i'm not sure if i could
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anything better
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what I had to do was disabled iCloud
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photo library on the phone open up image
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capture on my mac have it select all and
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delete all like 16,000 or whatever it
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was something like that photos that were
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on the phone
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many of which i didn't even shoot in the
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phone we're just copy therefore photo
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library purposes like for you think it
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delete everything that way then back
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that up
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restore that to the two
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a 64 gig phone and then reenable iCloud
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photo library and underfunded and they
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like all this was you to avoid iCloud
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backup I guess because that's the other
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alternative obviously if you don't have
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the sizes you're trying to do like an
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itunes backup dancer what if you just
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said i'm just going to use iCloud backup
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program i suppose that probably yeah
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because that I assume that would work it
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would but it has other pain is that
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you're waiting for the apps to download
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and waiting for yeah come back and then
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I and then I get my teaching at him so i
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have to reenter all my passwords
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everywhere and that's austere like that
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like i like I'd rather have a brief
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severe sucking of something then have
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like to have like going up three days of
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annoyance as I have to reenter all the
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pattern into everything anyway yeah so
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this phone is ridiculous
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this is so big but I'm kind of living
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with it right now and I really want that
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good camera setup and I'm sorry you said
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that's a six plus four 6s plus 6 plus
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was interesting you know going back to
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you know I mean three times I don't miss
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that i hardly ever use it for anything i
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occasionally use it for cursor movement
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within a text block but usually nothing
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else i do miss the faster touch ID
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sensor quite a bit
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that is a big thing I notice and the 6
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plus before the success plus also was it
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was the first plus phone and kind of
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didn't have enough ram and the GPU is
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kind of not powerful enough so like
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there's like animations a little bit
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sluggish sometimes and like just like
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certain things are like a little bit do
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you know but for the most part it's fine
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i kinda it kinda makes you think like
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wow buying a new phone every year is
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kind of wasteful because this year old
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one is fine for the most part totally
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fucked but it's not great it's not fast
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by my success standards but it's good
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enough for most what I'm doing with it
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touch ID is slower and that sucks but
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I'm living with its fine but yeah I
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think even though in so many ways it is
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worse in so many ways it's hard to hold
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I still don't like the way springboard
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rotates i still hate the way that apps
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like mail and messages get like that
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this the half ipad view in landscape
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mode and as a result of hating the way
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it does landscape in every possible way
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I usually have to keep the plus phone in
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rotation lock
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mode which is great and I want to look
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at a photo so it's a little bit annoying
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in those ways but I really do love
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having additional screens I'll of typing
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on it i'm way more accurate with the
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text input on it
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these because it's a bigger keyboard fit
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my thumb's better i guess so i guess i
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guess im gonna go plus but outside again
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in 24 hours to order from my god
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well little over because it's three in
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the morning I'll be a specific time
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though i'll be XOXO oh I'll be exhausted
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but i'll be awake
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you jerk
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