The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► it's been a long time it has Pence [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► surprisingly long time it was like two [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► weeks ago right [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► yes it was the 18 so it's two weeks and [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► a day Wow am I missed you guys a lot has [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► happened in the meantime chiefly that I [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► determined that i like the beach now [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► funny how that is we should we should [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► actually examine that how old are you [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► now that it took so long [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► well before you beat up on Marco I was [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► lucky that i just discovered i like the [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► beach about two to three years and then [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► maybe three years ago so apparently mark [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► and I are equally slow on this [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► realization i don't know what's wrong [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► with you guys [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► how so how many times did you have to [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► rent a house on the beach for a few days [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► to like it [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► I actually would say the first time we [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► did that i liked it but but it is [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► important to note that I was well into [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► adulthood at this point and i don't [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► remember it was it with you guys i was [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► discussing this might have been on the [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► post-show but the pop-up what they call [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► them like awnings are not wanting shoot [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► after they call them umbrellas you push [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► the middle and the you-know-where tent [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► the little 10 thingies [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► yes like a tent but it's just the roof [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► part of the tent so it's like a big [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► square that's like yeah we saw a picture [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► of your thing that you should never ever [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► bring on a beach [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► why because this is not a thing design [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► that's for like having like a catered [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► outdoor wedding [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► oh yeah mostly not from breaking on the [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► beach instant canopy is apparently what [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► is officially called do not bring it to [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► the beach you know if you want a lot of [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► shade from the Sun which is what i want [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► when i go to the beach [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► that's perfect way to do it well but add [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► disqus I'm those those tend to have a [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► pretty poor shade to weight ratio there [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► they're also yeah yeah the amount of [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► shade they provide we we got we had a a [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► very large kind of extended umbrella [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► like the idea you put it like diagonally [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► down like the polls running diagonally [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► the one in the sand and then the other [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► side kind of resting on the sand but it [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► has like extra-long flaps on two sides [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► so it kind of makes like a tent but [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► that's open on one side so you get a ton [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► of shade in the total weight of an [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► umbrella so it's pretty that was pretty [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► awesome [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► yeah that works out nicely I've seen [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► things like that so yeah so to go back a [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► half step so the first time we rented a [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► house that [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► I will that I participated in any way we [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► had one of these instant canopies the [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► point is not as much the instant can be [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► just canopy just the fact that their [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► shade [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► however you decide to get your shade [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► umbrella 10t thing instant canopy [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► doesn't matter the shade indoor its own [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► independent so we had shade i had i [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► think the first year I when I read ready [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► player one and don't listen to what John [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► says about ready player wants a great [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► book i also have booze and that [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► combination really worked out nicely for [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► me and ever since then I've found that [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► if i shade and a book or a you know iOS [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► device with the internet connection and [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► I don't even need booze anymore although [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► it helps its it actually is not too bad [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► experience so what turn the corner for [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► you Marco what what made you decide this [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► is not so bad [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► so last year we went to the same place [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► fire island we spent five days they're [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► so part of the problem was that i was [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► really sick for them for most of that [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► time so I wasn't really able to fully [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► enjoy the time this year we were there [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► for seven or eight days eight days and I [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► was not sick so even last year the [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► shorter time and being fairly [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► uncomfortable most of the time I still [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► enjoyed it last year I still enjoyed the [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► place i enjoyed walking around because [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► while I don't really care for the actual [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► beach itself very much i do like the the [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► ocean breeze the air i do like the the [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► beach town and Firearms pretty awesome [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► that you kind of walk around everywhere [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► there's no cars and everything is really [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► kind of tightly packed on this little [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► tiny strip violin so everything's very [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► walkable and so I really enjoyed that [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► part of it last year but just it was it [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► was hard to really enjoy the whole trip [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► because of my condition but this year I [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► spent a little more time on the actual [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► beach this year and I kind of learned [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► how to make it work for me a little bit [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► i still don't love like being in the sun [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► or going in the water or eating seafood [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► but i found ways to enjoy myself on the [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► actual beach and then because we were [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► there for longer and I was feeling [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► better this year i greatly enjoyed the [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► rest of the town and the weekend the [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► environment as well so basically i [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► really enjoyed it quite a bit and and [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► and like a [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► days was enough time I feel like if [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► you're if you're somewhere for it for [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► like three to five days you kind of were [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► still in vacation like sightseeing kind [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► of metallic active mode the whole time [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► and there's a certain threshold which i [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► think i passed this trip where like if [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► you somewhere for long enough you can [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► start living there [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► does that make sense it does actually i [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► dunno what you're saying like you can [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► let you can get into a different mode [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► with okay now this is just like what [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► it's like to live here basically for a [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► short time as opposed to like being like [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► active doing stuff vacation mode you [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► know the whole time so i got a brief a [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► brief sense of that like living mode and [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► I really enjoyed it [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► so what made the beach itself bearable [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► that like I had said that you know in [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► the past having booze in a book and I [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► should actually elaborate that having [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► Declan their particular reason it and [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► then positive mood which is usually [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► that's also just tremendously fun what [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► turned the corner for you on the beach [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► specifically also part of it was that [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► you know part of it was that the entire [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► family really enjoys it so everyone's [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► happy everyone's having fun just always [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► like stuff to do nobody's ever bored I'm [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► so that's really nice but also you know [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► I just kind of figured out like how to [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► sit in the shade for a little bit this [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► year I've kind of I don't know if this [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► is a good thing or a bad thing it's [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► probably some of both but I'm finally [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► learning how to be able to turn my brain [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► off for more than like 20 minutes at a [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► time like in the sense that i'm able to [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► like relax and not wish i was sitting at [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► a computer getting stuff done all the [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► time and this this could be dangerous [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► like this could go too far and I never [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► want to work again i think i'm going to [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► try to get a better balance of that and [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► so I kind of got that this year where I [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► like last year because i was pretty sick [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► and it was a shorter time and I was [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► right in the middle of trying to write [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► piece last year actually worked a lot on [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► that trip I mostly like state back the [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► house and everyone to the beach and I [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► mainly for my laptop this year I brought [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► all my work with me I thought get a lot [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► done and I got almost nothing done they [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► would like shockingly little considering [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► like out how much i get done last year [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► versus this year so I kind of learned [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► how to take a vacation and it was to the [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► point where like I want to [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► i'm home i really missed it which has [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► never ever happened with any vacation [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► ever taken [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► that's also every every occasion ever [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► take when i get home i can't thank God [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► home i can get back to everything this [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► time I was like online i miss vacation [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► anyway so I'm broken forever how are you [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► guys [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► well I'm waiting for john to to [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► completely obliterate us for having just [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► realized that the beach is a thing and [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► you've been distressingly quiet John so [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► tell us what what do you have to say [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► about the beach i love it like it it's [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► extra insulting that i'm also going to [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► fire island which I'm pretty sure is [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► where John has gone for beaches for [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► years now I'm gonna fire around but I go [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► the butterflies and I i don't think i [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► think i have to add is that I have not [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► wanted to work and love the beach since [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► I was a single digit that way ahead of [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► you you just now getting to the point [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► where you don't want to work and love [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► the beach congratulations [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► they think they're pretty much the rest [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► of the human race his wish [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► yeah you can I curve that's what [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► everybody wants to do is not work and go [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► to the beach and you're just like you [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► know what the beach is fun working sucks [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► turns out hey I never knew so there's a [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► few ways actually in many ways in which [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► i am a terrible geek by typical geek [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► standards one of those things i don't [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► like anime or star trek or fantasy like [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► Lord of the Rings type stuff you don't [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► know you don't like anime ok and so [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► anyway I think in this way John I think [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► you're a bad geek i think most geeks [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► will have the problem that I've had [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► forever which is not really being able [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► to turn my brain off for more than like [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► a day or two without getting restless [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► no you're that mean that's not a geek [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► thing that's a workaholic thing there's [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► a difference [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► yep concur is it well I think there's a [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► lot of overlap there because like it's [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► not necessarily that I want to do [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► specific work that I want to do some [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► like I want to do something that's but [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► that's why your workaholic but I'm not [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► because I don't want to work on like you [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► know boring stuff to get it done I want [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► to work on like weird mp3 encoder [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► install your also you're also better [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► relaxing when you're describing like I [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► felt like I got into like the vacation [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► mode where it's like you're living [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► there's like no you just finally relaxed [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► like it in the street like what Merlin [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► talks about this to like he goes on [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► vacation takes like three days to do in [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► to get into whatever mode [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► is another weird great phrase was just [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► like you have to learn how to relax and [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► that's another skill that I've always [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► been very good at I'm really good at [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► relaxing i'm an expert relaxing in fact [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► i think most people if you said starting [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► now sit on your butt and do nothing they [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► just descend into a little puddle under [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► like but some other people takes a while [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► to sort of to untie the 700 twisty ties [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► that are around their invisible twisty [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► ties that are around their brain at all [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► times and just slowly unwind and turn [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► and turn and then finally they released [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► you can go and then you go home [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► applications / yeah and I did finally I [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► was thinking of you John much of the [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► time because as i was trying to like [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► manage having a big camera and my phone [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► at the beach of course sand is [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► everywhere sand in my pockets you know [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► what else in people's pockets sand like [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► that i was thinking of you and your [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► quotes from this show going back years [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► of you everytime out of the exact doing [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► something bad so how did your dad your [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► big fancy camera fair and the hostile [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► environment of the beach very well [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► actually [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► iid funnily enough I did appreciate when [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► I had the slightly longer lens on it [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► I mean I brought the my brother 35 and [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► 55 primes and the the 35 pictures were [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► decent but I I was happier in general [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► 255 pictures so i got a lot of amazing [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► pictures and just destroyed my laptop [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► trying to process them in Lightroom on [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► battery which is hilarious but so how [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► far how far you out in the water with [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► the expensive camera like ankles knees [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► well i was i was still in the wave zone [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► so like not necessarily a fixed depth [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► but at the the closest i would let it [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► get was like like the bottom of my [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► shorts like once I was that deep i would [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► hold the camera up with my head if it [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► was a big wave coming in or like the end [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► they were I think twice it got a little [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► bit of splash on it but but otherwise [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► was putting up i think for someone with [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► not a lot of beach experience I don't [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► think you realize exactly how close you [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► are that entire time to destroy your [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► camera because you're like oh you know [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► the wave comes to hold up you don't [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► realize that like all it takes is one [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► false move or not paying attention for [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► two seconds in one way that's a little [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► bit [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► getting the other ones to put your on [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► your butt and put that camera in the [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► water so I think you were pretty lucky [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► and pretty brave to go out even that [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► deep with your camera [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► I think you might be overestimating how [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► deep I was it was literally like I was [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► only in like the waves splash zone and [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► the most i got was if if the wave at [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► maximum splash was tall enough to get [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► the bottom of my shorts wet [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► yeah those waves they look pretty [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► small-time a few pictures you have but [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► you haven't liked you [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► if the water is touching your bathing [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► suit yeah you think I'm fine right [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► especially because when the big one [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► comes the so much water will go out but [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► it will just be barely touching your [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► ankles and take two steps in and the big [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► one comes in and pay attention [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► sprüche anyway I'm glad you you dodged [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► the bullet and managed to keep your [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► camera live and take some good pictures [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► yeah they really got a lot of great [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► pictures and I spent a lot of time just [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► like picking through them and bloody [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► processing them posing for some [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► instagram and i finally started I think [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► I'm kind of getting the vacation is [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► about funnily enough though every time I [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► take a vacation where I have my giant [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► 15-inch macbook pro i'm so happy i have [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► that 15-inch macbook pro and not [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► anything smaller or weaker is like the [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► things I do in vacation like either i [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► need nothing from it or I need all the [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► power and screens because i can get so [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► my my previously stated plans about [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► maybe going to a 13 macbook pro in the [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► new ones come out those plans are out [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► the window [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► I'm going to either keep what I have to [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► get the new 15 yeah I honestly don't [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► understand how anyone who doesn't travel [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► for a living has anything smaller than a [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► 15-inch laptop like I typically do not [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► use my work laptop at home and it's [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► always clamshell dat work and whether or [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► not you think that's a smart choice [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► whatever but the point is I very rarely [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► use the screen on the laptop but every [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► time I do I couldn't agree with you more [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► I don't understand how anyone could do [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► anything productive with less real [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► estate again if you're like traveling [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► professionally totally get that but for [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► regular humans of 15 all the way oh yeah [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► i mean it and like I had tweeted the [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► other day i'm pissed everybody off where [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► I said basically like as as using my [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► laptop like the things i want our [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► better battery and faster thing I don't [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► really care about is make it a like [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► fifteen percent lighter i think i think [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► whatever whatever measure right i used [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► and it's got a lot of people angry they [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► were saying I where I walk with mine to [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► work every day blah blah and I would [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► love for to be fifteen percent lighter [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► and i get that x is that too is that for [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► years and the majority of the time of [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► tumblr i was walking with laptop in a [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► bag pretty far every day and most of the [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► time with 15-inch and this was back when [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► the 15-inch was like five point seven [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► pounds now I think they're 4.5 and [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► probably about to get lighter so like I [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► I know what that's like [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► and in fact much of the time i also had [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► an SLR and a couple links in the bed [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► with his wife Alex was not kind of my [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► shoulders so I i get that if you're [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► walking with it back and forth that does [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► that does you know that the total weight [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► of it does matter however when you get [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► down to like you have like already a [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► four-and-a-half or whatever pound laptop [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► if the weight savings brings it down [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► like let's say it's a pretty good saving [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► let's say it goes from four and a half [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► pounds 24 pounds that's a pretty [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► substantial savings in the world of like [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► you know laptop upgrades basically [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► suppose a blow out of the water somehow [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► I think it's unrealistic but let's say [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► to go to three-and-a-half let's shave a [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► whole pound off it again I think it's [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► unrealistic but if they do that the [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► total weight of the bag you're carrying [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► is probably like 15 pounds like people [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► carry a lot of stuff in their bag the [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► bag itself weighs a lot [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► empty if you're carrying a power adapter [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► or not that's like another like almost [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► pounds eight people carry so much that [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► if you really really need to save half a [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► pound or one pound in the carry weight [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► of your bag there are probably many [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► other ways you can do that and if you're [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► carrying enough stuff [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► you actually might not quite notice that [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► very much like it so basically i think [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► people when when they speculate on how [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► much they need laptop weight savings in [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► these little increments [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► I think that might be overestimating how [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► much they would actually notice that in [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► practice how much different it would [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► actually make in practice and ignoring [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► ways that you could say that not in some [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► other way so for example like one of the [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► ways i save weight when I was walking to [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► and from work with laptops everyday is [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► actually got a second power adapter and [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► kept one at work so I never had a power [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► adapter in my bag up and that alone at [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► these are you know this with 15-inch day [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► so that's it [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► the pound right the hair you know like [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► simple stuff like that and you know if [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► you carry you know a an ipad and maybe [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► don't need you don't care the keyboard [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► like their stuff like that like there's [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► there are ways you can you can either [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► spend a bit of money to have some [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► redundancy on both ends and things like [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► power adapters or accessories or just [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► make some tough decisions about do i [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► really need to carry this thing if [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► Carrie it's a big problem i highly [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► suggest using a backpack and not a [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► messenger bag like there's lots of other [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► ways you can do this that will have way [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► larger effects then if your laptop alone [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► with no other changes got fifteen [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► percent lighter agree all right we [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► should probably do a little bit of [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► follow-up now that were 20 that program [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► is a little I'd like to start with a [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► couple of notes first of all I have [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► returned my 32 gigs of ram i have i have [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► received 32 replacement gigs of ram and [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► my uptime is currently nine days are you [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► plug into the UPS yes I am okay and I'm [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► expecting the google apps are you [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► recording in mob format i am recording [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► every freakin format and his son what [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► color are your recording in here [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► regarding mob is not even how you [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► pronounce the company [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► oh my goodness but anyway but as I've [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► nine days sometimes so far we'll see if [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► it continues of course now i have [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► several system updates I've been putting [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► off for my testing purposes so please [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► don't have me but so far so good as i [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► knock very quietly on wood moving on I i [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► have not yet looked at the reddit [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► because i don't really go to read it [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► ever and i haven't been trolling their [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► mentions because i haven't had the time [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► nor the inclination [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► however if the entire internet isn't [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► beating the piss out of hello internet [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► for issuing an episode on vinyl then i [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► give up because i paid the price for [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► saying that vinyl may not be an [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► embarrassment for months and here it is [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► they're releasing an entire special [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► episode of Hello internet on vinyl if [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► all of you jerks aren't going after they [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► really i didn't even know this is going [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► to [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► ok if all of my jokes are going after [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► them like you went after me then I'm [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► sorely disappointed because they deserve [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► it you shouldn't be because they're [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► doing it as a joke get it's funny and on [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► the show where they talk about it they [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► both it they throw in a few digs at the [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► people who think vinyl sounds better [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► haha those people were they thinking [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► right like so they're on there on the [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► right side there on the on this whole [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► thing and the whole idea is that it's [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► silly in the joke the entire thing is a [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► joke so why would people make fun if [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► they had released and said finally [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► people can listen to our voices and [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► higher fidelity format then people would [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► be on them believe me that's not what [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► they said [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► I'll i wonder like how many people who [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► saw this is this is apparently extremely [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► sold out now how many people who buy [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► this have a way to even play it like if [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► I have discussed on the program like I [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► went here to come by it but like if if I [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► even could get myself a copy which I [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► can't right now they're sold out but if [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► i could get 1i have to like go to my [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► mom's house to go to casey's dad's house [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► to actually play it and by the way [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► because vinyl is so stupid it's only 45 [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► minutes long and flip in the middle you [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► clearly did not live through the [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► laserdisc era should use the Smart speed [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► to record it could've been more on well [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► yeah at least laces players they would a [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► most of them with with the whole head [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► would flips you didn't have to move the [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► disk but uh but yeah it's I'm glad you [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► pointed out that you'd have to go to my [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► dad's house because i I really don't [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► think most people understand that I [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► don't even have a record player i have a [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► turntable because I i don't have the [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► space nor the inclination for it but the [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► terrible [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► in any case I i backed the internet i [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► expect the internet to say hello hello [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► Internet [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► you guys are idiots because that's what [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► you did to me and I understand the [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► distinction but usually you shouldn't [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► expected you understand the joke you [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► understand that on the program they [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► directly address the thing that everyone [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► was yelling at you about it instead of [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► what you said yes sort of [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► uh-huh and I heard it I heard it but [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► anyway so yeah so all of you jerks you [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► can go after them now it can be [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► releasing episode cassette sure maybe [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► actually although you know we should do [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► many discs a track floppy disk 8-track [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► god you are old and floppy disk you're [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► not going to get a lot of state right [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► you don't have to flip that it just [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► keeps playing its true light if we [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► really crammed down the bit rate and do [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► like heaa see I'm pretty sure we can get [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► like 10 minutes on a floppy maybe I [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► should come on like 17 floppy disks [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► anybody like you do that would you [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► I remember tippy I think I've told the [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► story before with the biggest flop into [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► stories you remember the 1984 apple [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► commercial well in the early days of [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► quicktime Apple put out a quicktime [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► version of the 1984 commercial which [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► must have been like a lower resolution [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► than then Mac OS icon is today and it [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► was like with the centre-back [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► compression algorithm it looked terrible [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► and it was really small and but i was so [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► excited to have it like i had a digital [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► version of that commercial died you know [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► because back before you had a video on [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► the internet how many times as a maximum [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► had you seen the Apple 1984 commercial [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► on like on the clear awards you know [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► retrospectives and stuff like that but [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► in general you tended not to see the ad [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► anywhere you could just go look at it on [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► youtube there was no YouTube has no [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► videos finally I had a copy on video but [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► the only way i could start anywhere was [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► to put it on floppy disk because that [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► was my only rule media so i did a [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► multi-part stuffit expander archive in [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► 20-25 parts and 125 floppy disks good i [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► think i still have like a rubber band [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► around the things like 25 floppy disks [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► right and I was take them but each like [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► the skin piece at a time onto like a [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► hard drive or something and then [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► reassemble them into hole then [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► decompressing I would have a tiny [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► postage stamp-sized video of this [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► commercial so my favorite sloppy the [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► story which I mentioned probably on the [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► show before was when I was kid we ran [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► os/2 at home because that work for IBM [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► and you can say a bunch of terrible [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► things about us too but in some ways was [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► superior god this doesn't sound familiar [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► halt it anyway [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► yes so let's do is the vinyl with [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► operating systems in some ways it was [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► superior but i got my hand will dad got [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► his hands on a beta of os/2 warp and [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► that thing was on i kid you not [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► something like 50 floppy disks are well [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► they were they were the you know what is [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► a three-and-a-half so they weren't [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► really floppy at that point but anyway [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► three-and-a-half-inch day they were [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► internally floppy yeah you're right and [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► so [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► I remember installing that thing took me [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► like 14 weeks because it was just sit [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► there and wait across each of these [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► discs it was ridiculous [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► see this is why I like I'm not nostalgic [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► about vinyl because I grew up with a [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► record player in the house that my mom [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► used regularly and I would occasionally [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► uses well and I like it annoyed me and I [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► grew up then you know eventually when [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► computers happened I grew up with with [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► five and a quarter and then [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► three-and-a-half inch floppy disks and [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► lived through cassette tapes before CDs [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► were thing so all these old technologies [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► like like us looking back on vinyl i [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► think is gonna be like if our children [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► when they are old enough to to become [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► their own version of hipsters when they [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► look at that age they have like a fond [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► recollections of cassette tapes even [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► like they really kind of never used them [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► and they're terrible like that I don't [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► vinyl to me is it I don't see why any [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► better than cassette tapes and cassette [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► tapes themselves are terrible and we [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► moved on and I've moved on and the world [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► has moved on and everyone's moved on [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► except Casey right so speaking of moving [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► on from old things [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► let's talk about installing operating [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► systems on one machine and then moving [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► to another [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► oh she's afraid about this a lot of [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► people are angry at Marco because all a [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► lot of Denmark's that mean things about [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► windows [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► and he was angry and now people are [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► angry that he was angry but I'm mostly [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► setting that aside because I feel like [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► Marco has taken his medicine from all [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► the windows users who have emailed him [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► to tell him what he said is wrong and i [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► don't know i have meetings about that [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► oh alright well anyway you can address [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► that the only reason i put this in here [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► is because one of one of the points that [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► was brought up in fact I brought up in [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► the program is the idea that marco was [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► going to install windows onto an [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► external drive and boot multiple [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► possibly different machines from like [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► Buddha laptop not just 25 k imax Buddha [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► laptop from it and then reinstall [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► windows when it's connected to a laptop [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► then use that same disk to boot the 5k [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► iMac which has very different hardware [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► and many windows were going to tell us [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► well why did you ever think that would [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► work and I said on the program that's a [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► bad idea for a variety of reasons but [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► it's not just as a you know Mac or Apple [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► fans might think because OS 10 is better [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► anyone knows this crappy because i was [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► ten days most mac users know you can [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► install that on a disconnected to pretty [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► much any computer and then plug it into [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► pretty much any other computer and boots [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► that computer fine [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► yeah which one person wrote in to say [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► you know Lois 10 wouldn't work that way [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► either and it yeah actually does work [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► that way the vast majority of the spin [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► and I reply to the reply to the present [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► yeah doesn't everybody here's the thing [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► alright so this is all true it does work [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► that way and if you're mostly mac user [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► or mostly recently a Mac user you might [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► think that windows work the same way [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► like it's a reasonable mistake not quite [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► as reasonable for Marco spent a long [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► time with Windows but still set that [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► aside but like i said the reason OS 10 [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► works that way when it doesn't is not [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► because Microsoft is done and apples [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► Smart in this particular case it's [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► because it's basically impossible for [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► windows to do it always tend to always [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► 10 installed everything in its almost [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► insulation all the drivers everything on [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► there because why not it only supports a [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► very limited range of hardware Apple [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► knows every piece of hardware in every [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► single machine that is officially [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► supported by his operating system and [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► that set of hardware is small windows [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► can't take every driver for every [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► machine that windows could possibly run [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► on and install it because your [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► installation would be gigantic it's that [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► it's literally impossible there's too [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► many drivers from too many different [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► places they have to do a thing where [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► they do is kind of like a custom install [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► for just the hardware that you [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► now you might say that windows could [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► then after bootup time be smarter about [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► pulling down new drivers on demand or [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► whatever but anything involved in the [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► boot process or like getting the video [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► driver to work so you're thinking even [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► get to the point where it's downloading [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► stuff it's very complicated like [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► basically the option that Apple goes [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► with is not available to Microsoft they [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► cannot say we're just going to install [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► the same files and every single windows [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► installation and then it will boot every [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► single computer so if you thought about [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► it for a little while you had no [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► experience your for with as you would [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► think wait they can't do the apple thing [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► which is kind of a shame and Microsoft's [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► own fault for having the business model [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► that brought them to massive dominance [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► of the pc industry for most of my entire [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► life but here it is going back around [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► and it means that Marco can get a game [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► to work in the time but alright so [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► couple of very small updates that story [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► basically so that the most of the hatred [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► for my actions in this story which again [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► was was quite strong have most of the [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► hatred of photon a few a few key points [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► number one was I can't believe you [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► expected that to work by having an [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► external drive installation move between [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► computers use into coverage now [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► yeah you're right I shouldn't expect [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► that to work i forgot how picky windows [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► about drivers i haven't used windows [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► reliably i have used windows really at [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► all in about 10 years and I haven't used [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► heavily in about 12 years so yeah well I [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► am NOT very move on to the next thing [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► there is a somewhat reasonable chance [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► that you could have thought that this [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► would work because you are of course [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► installing the bootcamp drivers in the [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► boot camp drivers are in exactly the [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► same situation is like they only have to [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► support a limited amount of hardware so [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► in theory [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► perhaps the bootcamp drivers had they [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► been really good and comprehensive could [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► have installed the full set of drivers [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► that booty boot camp cable machine but [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► obviously they did not do that then [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► we've heard from many people that the [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► bootcamp drivers are a little bit old [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► and creaky and have not kept up with the [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► advancements in windows which doesn't [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► surprise me because Apple supportive for [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► bootcamp always seems kind of [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► half-hearted in the last let's say half [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► decade right but but yet to be fair I [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► that is that is that is something [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► something made secondly the issue came [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► up that i did i did hit the Skip [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► activation thing i like about me later [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► observation and set up the reason why I [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► hit that is not because being lazy and i [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► forgot to mention during the show it's [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► because I knew people had told [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► me that if you activate on the external [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► drive and you plug into the computer it [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► will break the activation and you have [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► to reactivate by calling Microsoft or [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► whatever whatever you have to do so I [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► knew that was that was a risk so I was [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► waiting until it was going to be on the [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► computer the games to be played on to [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► activate was trying to get the whole [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► thing set up my laptop so I wouldn't [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► have to disturb tips computer and its up [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► time because she was working on it so i [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► was trying to get it also my laptop [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► first and then i'm going to move the [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► driver they're activated there so it [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► wouldn't break and then move on [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► there's also ways that you can get like [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► you know pirate keys volume license keys [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► get around this but I was doing this [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► legally so you know that i couldn't i [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► had to actually follow the the [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► wonderfully abusive legitimate customer [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► restrictions [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► thank you safety around yeah but that's [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► that's apparently i get for doing things [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► legally and finally the the argument [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► that I was being unfair to windows and [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► that Windows doesn't suck and I am on [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► that i suck for saying that windows are [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► stupid i respectfully disagree even [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► though that some of the things I did [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► were not correct [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► windows is stupid and it does suck i'm [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► sure that will totally undressed me know [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► yes only good good counter argument yes [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► they will summarize that but in all cast [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► by saying no you with the o in the U [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► transpose one more ticket inside before [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► we move on to Marco's fame and glory if [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► you want to hear both me and tiff talked [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► about inside as played on both the mac [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► ps4 there will be an upcoming episode of [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► the incomparable that we are both on [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► where we discuss it then I hope marco [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► was far away from the room when I was [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► going on because we spoil the whole [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► thing I actually I went to the entire [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► other side of the house just so I [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► wouldn't overhear anything good plan [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► anyway play the game that was in the [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► incomparable we have a new sponsor this [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► week or sponsored by content full [TS]

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00:29:51 ◼   ► mobile developers to manage integrate [TS]

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00:29:59 ◼   ► signage or any new platform in other [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► words it's a constant as a service [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► platform based around a content API it's [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► kinda like a CMS is ultimately is used [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► for managing content but very much [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► unlike wordpress joomla drupal joomla [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► things like that content full expect you [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► to bring your own custom front end so [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► you still create and manage to structure [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► your content but you wouldn't set up its [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► appearance directly in the CMS content [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► full is optimized for and loved by [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► developers using the API they request [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► content from content full and then [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► they're free to do whatever is necessary [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► with it for display or whatever else the [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► advantage of this approach is the [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► process becomes much more flexible while [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► editor still enjoy familiar way of [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► creating content developers can easily [TS]

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00:30:42 ◼   ► that the content becomes structured and [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► code friendly the contents of service [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► approach means there's no tech [TS]

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00:31:22 ◼   ► show today or 10 was yesterday yesterday [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► I'm sorry I'm the app store made some [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► news and then I think it was it was a [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► little bit more today as well so [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► yesterday [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► Apple has said that they're going to [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► start removing old and busted apps from [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► the store that's my summary but that's [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► basically what it amounts to [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► and they also said that the names of [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► apps can no longer be something like [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► tweak pot a power users twitter client [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► or something like that actually probably [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► still fit well you know what i mean so [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► it has to be 50 characters or less and [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► the idea is they don't want you gaming [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► their piss-poor search by adding search [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► keywords and terms into your apt title [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► so they expect the app titles to be 50 [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► characters less also this is great news [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► i'm really pleased by this so I have [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► nothing really haven't had much more to [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► say I think fast [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► excellent run afoul of this most likely [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► and to be honest that's a good thing [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► yeah i mean it this is a very very good [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► thing in general I mean you know if you [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► look at like that they they're a little [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► light on the specifics of what they're [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► going to print out but it basically it's [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► like you know if the app crashes on [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► launch it will be removed immediately so [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► I can if you have some some old app that [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► no longer literally doesn't even work [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► they're just pulling it with no warning [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► to the developer just you know well you [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► know that they're also they're enforcing [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► basically if there's any new rules that [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► weren't around when the app first passed [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► app review but it is actually fighting [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► those rules then they they are retro [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► actively enforcement so basically like [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► you know it used to be that if you got [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► through once an hour before the rules in [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► effect you could basically keep doing it [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► forever and as long as you didn't update [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► your app which is you know not a great [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► system so that they're kinda close that [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► loophole never going to go back and [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► andrey review apps under modern rules [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► and if if they if they no longer pass [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► the rules because the rules have changed [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► or the North something slip through that [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► they will now be enforcing that on those [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► apps and removing them if they have to [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► and then the big thing which i think is [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► more interesting is the is basically the [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► Africans that has a phrase but it's like [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► unmaintained or abandoned apps and so [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► what they haven't said specifically what [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► that means but what I what I assume that [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► would mean are things like if you still [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► don't have a sixty four-bit binary [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► because i'm assuming part of the reason [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► we're doing this is to get the app store [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► ready for a future version of iOS [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► probably i was eleven doesn't have [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► 32-bit support at all and won't launch [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► there too but absent all things like if [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► you still don't have retina support or [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► if you still don't have support for the [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► larger screens on the phones on the ipad [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► I'll be interested to see like how how [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► strict they will because the ipad has a [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► lot more challenges department there an [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► ipad were non-retina for longer and a [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► lot of ipad software got written in the [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► non grata days and never updated because [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► it wasn't worth it to like you know pay [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► some consultants to update your software [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► or rewrite games or whatever else I [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► wonder like are they going to be as [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► strict on the ipad you know the the 12.9 [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► inch iPad launched and it's really it's [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► really crappy to use 9.7 inch apps on [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► the 12.9 [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► ipad especially if you have to use the [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► keyboard for any kind of text input the [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► on-screen keyboard is horrible it gets [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► blown up so it'll be interesting to see [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► like you know basically how strictly [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► they enforce that kind of unmaintained [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► abandoned rule and if it applies [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► assuming it applies to things like [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► supporting screen sizes and you knew you [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► know modern builds that include the [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► architecture stuff like that but then [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► basically how strict they be in and what [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► else will include I can't imagine them [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► doing the screen size thing because I'm [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► unless they include other factors [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► because I i have apps from large [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► multinational corporations that are [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► upgraded updated very frequently that [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► still don't support my iphone 6 screen [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► size you can tell from like the slightly [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► too-big keyboard and everything that [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► these are not abandon these apps that [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► are frequently updated bugs are fixed [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► features are added and yet they still [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► don't support this screen size so i [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► don't think that qualifies as abandoned [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► and I don't think Apple can politically [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► speaking pole apps like that under the [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► guise of we're cleaning out abandoned [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► things the 64-bit and 32-bit yeah [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► because that's coming no matter what [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► anyway and just laying the groundwork [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► but screen size and they especially like [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► I think their definition of abandoned [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► has to be some set of those things plus [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► also has not been updated in six months [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► or a year or something maybe but i don't [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► know i mean looking at some of these [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► things they can enforce at the iTunes [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► Connect level so they could say like our [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► iTunes Connect no longer accepts apps [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► that are 30 only which probably hasn't [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► for what over a year now and they could [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► say things like I didn't take no longer [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► support or no longer will allow you to [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► submit an app that doesn't support the [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► iphone 6 and 6 plus screen sizes and [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► then six months after that they can say [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► well if you if you don't support the [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► screen sizes and how did it happen over [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► six months but the feeling that they can [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► make a loophole they want to and and [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► that is probably have some of these [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► things will play out but I mean one [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► thing like you know most apps that do [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► that they're still getting updates like [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► the actually the official test lap is [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► one of these apps where the Tesla app is [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► it gets updates like every few months [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► but it still doesn't support the iphone [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► 6 and 6 plus screen sizes like it has [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► the modern keyboard and everything but [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► it's just it's still just not supporting [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► larger screens like it's all like pixel [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► perfect ios6 style designed and I assume [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► they don't want to like go back and [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► paste [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► monitor redesigned to to blow it up and [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► everything but like that's kind of [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► crappy and so this if they can use this [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► to to push companies to update their [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► their ancient broken apps that they're [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► basically it's not updating out of [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► laziness or not you're not moving [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► tomorrow stuff because of laziness or [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► just not want to allocate the funds for [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► this is probably a good thing it's [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► definitely good thing for users and for [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► developers who are in the consulting [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► business it is almost certainly a good [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► thing because this is probably going to [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► be a big boon to consulting because all [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► these companies that have all these [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► ancient iphone and ipad apps who they [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► didn't they didn't really have any kind [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► of push before too want to put more [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► money into them but now they're going to [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► have a big push of apple says you need [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► to update this to support XO we're going [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► to pull you out the after one 30 days [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► well I still think the vast majority of [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► this is going to be cleaning out the [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► crap that no one has looked at in [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► forever that it also isn't making any [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► more money so i think the vast majority [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► of the garbage is just just crap that [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► was released once never updated stop [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► making money three-and-a-half years ago [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► and it's just in the store like and and [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► the the meta story about this has [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► everyone who has written anything about [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► it is pointed out and as I think it's [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► obvious to everybody looking at is this [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► marks the end of the era when Apple is a [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► counting the number of applications in [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► the app store is their primary sure how [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► awesome they are doing [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► it's like I mean they should stop this [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► longer because as I think we've all [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► talked about on past programs over the [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► years once you get into the hundreds of [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► thousands or millions the number of apps [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► you have the app store is a detriment to [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► the user experience not not a boon so [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► you know because it's just they're just [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► especially when your searches horrendous [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► Apple but yeah so like the out the app [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► store it's better if they delete several [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► hundred thousand crap apps [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► that's another thing I mean like the [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► search is a is a massive angle to this [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► like you know so the other side you know [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► as Eddie said first like there-there [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► prohibiting spamming your appt with [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► keywords that are they're not related to [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► what it does and they're sending a cap [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► on 50 characters now I don't know what [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► the campus before but I've seen some [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► pretty long appt titles definitely visit [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► like four sentences after the after the [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► first heard of describing all the things [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► it does mention every Big Apple this [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► works for Instagram Twitter and all [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► those all the spammers but a lot of this [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► like these these things wouldn't be as [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► big of a problem in the app store if the [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► search was better [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► and so a lot of critics have pointed out [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► rightly so that like these things are [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► nice but if you just fix the search like [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► you know obviously it would [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► yeah it was really crap to become [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► exactly define stuff on exactly so it is [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► it is kind of I mean on one hand it's a [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► little bit frustrating that like apples [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► kind of jumping through hoops to do [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► things that better search would [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► alleviate on the other hand it seems [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► pretty clear that better search is not [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► coming [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► yeah that Apple just isn't very good at [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► at church especially on the whoever [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► manages App Store search like whatever [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► they're doing over there whatever [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► methods and algorithms are using the [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► they just can't seem to pull together a [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► really good search and so if it's not [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► going to happen then you might as well [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► do things around it to to alleviate how [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► crappy it is for people but I should do [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► both likely i'm assuming they are doing [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► both but this is like the easy first [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► thing to do like it really is a benefit [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► to like it because the app store is not [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► the weapons mentioned the web like the [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► web is just full of crap in the magic [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► Google's it finds out the pages that are [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► actually worth you finding even though [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► millions and millions of pages match [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► whatever you type into the search box [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► they find the one that is the best match [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► meaning a not just a spammy abandonware [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► you know like but google doesn't control [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► the web entirely yet told they can't not [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► coming out [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► yeah they can't really out of the they [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► can't clean out the crappy a web pages [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► but the whole idea behind the apps are [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► if you had read any story about the app [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► store in the first few years I your [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► chance to see the word curated in the [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► article are very very high and what [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► happened has done with the app store is [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► does not really fit any reasonable [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► definition of curated because if you are [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► curating any kind of collection of [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► anything you just wouldn't allow this [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► kind of crap to a enter in the first [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► place which they've been getting better [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► about you know hey we don't need any [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► more fart apps remember that error right [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► and be you wouldn't let it sit there [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► curating means realizing that there is a [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► three hundred thousand applications that [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► cross on launch that haven't been [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► downloaded in several years except for [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► by supporting suspecting people who get [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► better results from your terrible search [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► right curating means you've gotta clean [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► that crap out [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► yes they should make search better but [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► you should also do this otherwise don't [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► pretend that you're really curating up [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► all you're really doing is exerting [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► control but you don't care about the [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► state of the class [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► you know you care about is like the gate [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► like we don't want to let any apps in [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► that violate our current set of [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► arbitrary rules but once they're in [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► whatever we don't curate the collection [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► we just curate the door you know we're [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► just the bouncer but once you get in you [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► can you can die on the floor and slowly [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► decompose and we won't even look at you [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► maybe that better analogy got a little [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► grim in the end but yeah a little bit [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► goodness and then Apple has also updated [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► their official review guidelines i guess [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► that's what happened and they've made [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► some clarifications about subscriptions [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► with which is interesting to several [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► people and Marco you caught wind of this [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► yeah i mean a logical data there's a lot [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► of sites now that that basically provide [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► gifts for like any time Apple changes [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► review guidelines the the site now that [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► will just tell you here's what changes [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► will even like alert you some people [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► email you like it there or the tweet [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► about it's pretty pretty great services [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► so anyway everyone immediately notices [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► that although the review guidelines have [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► had some modifications and some of it is [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► no simple expected stuff to do things [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► like sticker pack rules for the upcoming [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► iOS 10 launch that's probably happening [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► probably next week or something very [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► soon and that's cool but then they also [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► basically clarified the author noon [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► subscription rules a little bit because [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► you know as well as you learned early in [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► the summer it for WC they they announced [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► they were bringing descriptions [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► basically allowing them for all [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► categories of apps not just like [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► publications anymore and they work it [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► was kind of left vague and unstated and [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► then later slightly clarifies by phil [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► schiller on the talk show live actually [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► WTC about like you know could like [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► productivity apps just charge you [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► subscription for updates and you [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► basically can you charge a subscription [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► for just using the app instead of like [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► content that was being delivered or a [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► web service or anything else and that [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► was left unspecified and vague until [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► yesterday when they basically said [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► exactly said it was like it was a list [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► of things that would be most likely [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► permitted and there's still a little [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► non-committal and it basically it's like [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► basically submit and try but it was [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► always that way but one of the things in [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► the list of examples that would be [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► permitted [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► was apps that have continued that had [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► like a frequent and substantial updates [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► close so close if only there were a way [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► for you to know what that rule said yeah [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► if only if only I would have done some [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► homework [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► Casey and I are both staring at it as [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► you say there's no way to really know is [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► that exactly but if it had been in the [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► notes and somehow put into bold text [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► other it look exactly which part but you [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► should look at just had to change tabs [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► we're still in follow-up yes [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► now this should have been more efficient [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► moving out is when tested before this [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► was before the second part of the story [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► came out about the you know 50 character [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► limit and the whatever like so anyway [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► this would have been follow up on [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► because that we were all these I was [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► remembering very angry about this rule [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► because the written rule and what Phil [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► said seem to be at odds and it was like [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► just make it clear like it doesn't [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► really matter what Phil Schiller says [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► because you can't submit your app and [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► then say well Phil Schiller said this [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► thing I saw wwc like that's not how [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► rules work you have to like your writing [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► rules make them as clear as you possibly [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► can and it was frustrating to me that [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► didn't seem like Apple had its its act [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► together and we're questioning like does [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► that mean that if you make an [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► application for like a Productivity app [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► or whatever and you just offer updates [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► every year or so like major updates can [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► use to make a description that or not [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► that's what we all wanted to know and [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► the clarification and the exact words [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► that the type of things that can offer [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► the first weekend pricing or perhaps [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► that offer consistent substantive [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► updates which is not particularly [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► precise but it clearly lays out you [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► don't need to have new game little [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► levels are episodic content or anything [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► like that just consistent support [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► consistent updates and substantive [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► updates so that's the open to [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► interpretation but it doesn't say [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► anything about you being a media app [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► anything about you being a game anything [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► about you having like a magazine issues [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► are new content just merely says you got [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► updated those got to be subsist that [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► consistent and there has to be something [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► in them have to be like not just so I [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► editable you know I had one tiny little [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► tweak here one new preference right and [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► so I think that's what people want [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► they just wanted to get clearance for [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► like oh ok if I think and then it's just [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► arguing over what counts as a [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► substantive update and I think people do [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► a to point out it's got like you did to [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► point on and include streaming [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► you'd win that argument with any [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► reasonable person if you were allowed to [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► have to say that's a substantial update [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► this is a major feature major new [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► capabilities and if you have a [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► subscription pricing the overcast one [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► point I didn't have streaming in to [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► point out did I think everybody [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► including Apple would be all thumbs up [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► on that and that's all we were looking [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► for [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► back when this rule came out just to [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► understand the scope of subscription and [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► then we can just argue about the details [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► right and it still is going to be like [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► you still have to submit kind of blindly [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► and just hope they allow you to do it [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► but this at least gives you a a pretty [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► good indication that like if you're [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► using this responsibly they will [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► probably allowed you can start [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► development is the best thing about it [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► like before you didn't even know whether [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► it was worthwhile to start developing [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► now you can start development I feel [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► like you get rejected they can say oh [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► that's not a substantial enough update [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► you can say okay well I'll just work [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► more and more features and certainly [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► presumably at some point you could say [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► now this surely is worthy of a [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► substantial update and now I you know of [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► course if you take too long your updates [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► and are consistent but it's like this [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► gives people the cover they need to [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► begin development which is all anyone [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► really wants to know like am I wasting [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► my time entirely on this or if I have [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► been acting in good faith with my [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► understanding of how this works the [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► language is now on the same page with [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► Phil Schiller said and I feel like this [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► should make everybody relax and feel [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► he says foolishly before everyone gets [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► rejected for major updates but we'll see [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► how this works out but we respond to [TS]

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00:48:57 ◼   ► ah John posted a week ago a collection [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► of scans I presume or perhaps pictures [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► of old artwork that he had done [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► generally speaking as a kid I found this [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► fascinating and we'll put links to all [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► these pieces in the show notes basically [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► it was on John's Instagram account [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► profile whatever you call it [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► I known John that you fancy yourself a [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► bit of an artist when you were a kid and [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► I thought that meant that your your [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► artistic skills were better than just [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► stick figures which puts you ahead of [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► almost everyone i know then I see all [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► these pictures and I realize holy crap [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► like you i don't know if you knew this [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► but you could like really really draw [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► really been well yeah they were really [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► good so fYI that's like you don't read [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► anything that i write is the first [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► hypercritical thing that I wrote [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► what's the first line of that it's like [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► it's a good fellows reference even into [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► double whammy [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► honey look we we knew from following you [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► and reading and listened to your stuff [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► we knew that you used to be some kind of [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► artist but we met we do I know like the [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► degree or what you drew really all we [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► knew is that you had said that you had [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► done for a while and you were too [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► critical about it and you [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► couldn't get over how critical you work [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► your own word now you got to reread that [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► to understand and probably the point of [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► that thing was [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► yes in the beginning was you know as far [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► back as I can remember blah blah [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► installed i want to grow up to be an [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► artist and then you read the whole thing [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► you realize like why didn't I do that [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► it's because my actual skill wasn't [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► artistic talent is why didn't pursue an [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► actual scale was being able to draw [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► something look at it no was wrong with [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► it and you just fix it you just repeat [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► that process and if you just keep [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► repeating it [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► the picture gets better and better the [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► longer you work on but that's not how [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► that's not how a real artist work well [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► they kind of how they work but anyway I [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► realized my limitations in all fairness [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► you that you have made a very good [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► living by being a complainer [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► professionally exactly we're going to [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► look at how are you going to make more [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► money to drawing pictures that during [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► copies of other people's pictures are [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► complaining about stuff really complain [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► about stuff is much more lucrative well [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► if you're good and you are really going [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► to complain about stuff got a lot of [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► practice to be good to complain about [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► stuff you can't just complained a lot [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► about it you have to go to complain well [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► about it and that's what like you are so [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► good at complaining well anybody can [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► complain i complain all the time but I'm [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► not nearly as good as you are you a [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► professional top-notch like world-class [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► complainer about anything you need to [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► get the practice to mess it up [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► complaining Carnegie Hall practice kid [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► well you don't even know that's saying [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► I'm angle too much it was unrecognizable [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► hi apologize i'm an old man but my [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► goodness so anyway I didn't I don't have [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► too much more to say about these other [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► than I genuinely genuinely was [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► dumbfounded at how good they were cuz i [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► expected it to be like you know stick [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► figures plus plus if you will and that's [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► not a new underscore app what i mean by [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► that is you the next the next door up [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► from if we had not yet anyway I would [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► love to see that actually probably [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► pretty awesome it'll it'll be like a [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► pinpoint / mug shot but but with [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► underscore spin on it [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► yes I thought it was just gonna be like [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► better than your average you know 12 or [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► 15 year-old what have you but which I [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► guess yes this was but but these were [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► like way better than your average 12 to [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► 15 years [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► old i remember vividly when I was I [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► don't like 2nd or 3rd grade which is [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► younger than what we're talking about [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► I had free hand drawn a picture of [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► garfield the cat and done if I may say [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► so and extraordinarily impressive job of [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► it this is my crowning achievement as an [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► artist in fact it's pretty much my only [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► achievement as an artist and I would [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► show all my like classmates like a first [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► or second grader what this was and they [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► would all be like oh you just trace that [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► and how do you fix this problem when [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► you're in first or second grade i've got [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► to have this somewhere and I but it'll [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► take me 10 years to get out what I did [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► to fix this problem of all you just [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► trace that is I wrote in big very thick [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► letters in all caps [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► I did not trace this next picture are [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► filled with the most great artists put [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► other things actually if you look at [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► their very fine for it but anyway agency [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► i was stunned by how good these were and [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► and i and i'm really really genuinely [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► impressed by them and and I want to see [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► more of them so I find more posts with [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► people and mathematics follow this crap [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► but a piano like i said in my [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► hypercritical see the secret all this [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► stuff is first of all as i stated i [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► think every single description on [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► instagram for these things almost all [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► these things are from another like [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► direct copies of painting or a poster or [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► something that was you know probably on [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► my wall from something like I didn't do [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► the these are originals right [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► even the ones that are just of random [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► people are taken from like people for [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► magazines or composite pictures in [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► magazines but most of them are just [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► exactly direct copies and all you need [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► to make a perfect copy of like a cool [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► poster or painting or book cover or [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► something else and I was into all these [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► in a fantasy book series or whatever and [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► i got these calendars with the big [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► posters and stuff [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► all you need to be able to make an [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► amazing copy of of what is already an [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► amazing piece of art is the ability to [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► know when you've drawn something have i [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► drawn it like that thing over there or [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► have I messed up in some way and that's [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► it right and you just repeat that [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► process and eventually you end up with [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► essentially a larger version of the book [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► cover that you were copying the whole [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► and the better the barrier most people [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► have to doing that is somewhat artistic [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► ability but mostly they will draw what [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► they think is they see in the book cover [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► and then they will look down look up the [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► book cover and look down what they've [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► drawn on their giant poster sized piece [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► of paper and thank yeah that's about [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► right and let's continue and if you do [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► that repeatedly you end up with this [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► telephone misshapen blob that only looks [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► vaguely like what was in the book cover [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► and it doesn't look good you gotta draw [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► it's actually on the book cover [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► you have to know when you've done [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► something you know too big to small at [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► the wrong angle and then you too if you [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► have this one particular skill can [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► essentially make an amazing copy of some [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► other artists piece of work and get all [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► the credit for making this great picture [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► and also the people look at this you [TS]