The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► that's right it's given me time to us [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► since we're in this no-man's land [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► give me time to eat this delicious warm [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► apple pie that Aaron just brought up [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► that she just made because apparently [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► that's what we decide to do when it's a [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► thousand degrees also eating all podcast [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► think what do you think you are John [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► Roderick no eating well party as they [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► did you hear anything up until I [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► admitted it nope have have you yet [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► spilled any apple pie into your imac now [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► that would be quite impressive the feet [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► though it really would I mean I just [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► really eating in podcasting do not mix [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► well that's what meet buttons for it [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► feels like we just got off the phone [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► like we just got off skype for the last [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► episode and it really honestly does your [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► heart get two nights later there 48 [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► hours later almost to the minute i'm [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► barely published last episode so as we [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► record it is friday evening the [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► twenty-second of july and one of us is [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► skipping town next weekend so recording [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► early because we're dedicated to you our [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► listeners and don't want you to go [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► anytime for any weeks i should say [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► without a new episode of this accidental [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► of podcasts and so we are recording very [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► shortly after the last show in did not [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► have a lot of time to accumulate [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► follow-up that being said as always we [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► do have some for you do we want to dive [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► right in gentlemen let's do it let's [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► start with the dog rental there which [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► was the namesake for the last episode [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► free-to-play free-to-play dogs was yeah [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► that's right now anyway the internet is [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► written into to correct us and is [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► referred to the the true gift to [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► humanity that is snopes.com which says [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► that the title they used was pika q [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► which I thought was kind of funny they [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► correct us in the story that we told [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► about the animal shelter and the dogs to [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► quote from snopes claim a shelter rented [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► dogs from Aristotle pokemon go players [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► and rent raked in tons of cash for all [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► their dogs were swiftly adopted mostly [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► false what's true the Muncie animal [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► shelter muncie indiana enacted a novel [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► pokemon go dog walking program inviting [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► local store shelter dogs during the [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► gaming sessions what's false the shelter [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► didn't charge players five dollars an [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► hour per dog to scare quotes rent dogs [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► for also it was free to play that's the [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► fair point [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► Cooper in talks for walking [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► they were not rant rapidly cleared of [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► dogs for adoption or do they make [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► megabox off a program designed to [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► harness the gaming phenomenon to get [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► shelter dogs some time outside so that [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► was all about ups for the most part but [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► it's still an adorable story and I'm I'm [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► kind of glad we talked about it anyway [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► as I do things on this first I [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► intentionally didn't retweet people [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► pointing us to the Stopes because i [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► wanted to give people like a week to [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► think it's real [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► of course it doesn't work if we record [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► two days after the previous one people [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► who aren't listening to the livestream I [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► want to give them i mean maybe you guys [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► already are treated so that's that's too [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► bad i did not i didn't have the heart I [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► i want to give people a week to to [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► believe like when we preface this in the [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► past the last show or like you know who [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► knows that this is true it's on the [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► internet blah blah but it sounds like a [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► good story that's of course all the [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► things that are made up on the internet [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► selling a good story that's how they [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► spread but i like to give people a week [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► to think it was real because it said it [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► was a nice heartwarming story and the [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► second Casey referred to slopes like the [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► gift of the internet or whatever it used [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► to be a lot more than it is now the [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► snopes website is pretty grim pretty [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► different diagram like it is not a nice [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► place to be i was scrolling through this [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► story in this like this picture of [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► maggots at the bottom that's part of one [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► of those terrible ads and everything is [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► like blinking calling and God yeah [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► you're right [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► no it's not it's not a good sign i don't [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► know what happened to you feel like like [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► IMDb or whatever and I'm TVs gotten [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► worse to be like you do you think these [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► old sort of things that are around a [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► long time ago that have value that sort [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► of our category defining websites should [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► have found some way to to make it work [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► without making their sights more and [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► more gross over time but but alas but [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► that's just that's just the web these [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► days and it isn't like snopes run by [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► horrible people and I don't know who [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► runs it but it's not just the web these [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► days no it really is it isn't digit is [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► just your in your cynical view think [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► every website is doomed to this paper [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► that's not true there are websites that [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► are not like that even IMDb which has [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► gotten worse in terms of usability but [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► hasn't become festooned with ads and [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► viruses and pictures of maggots and [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► there's a pro version that you can pay [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► for because read a lot of that crap like [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► that's the way you do it or Wikipedia [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► Wikipedia is not you know doesn't have [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► to believe whatever ads [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► bottom of it it's got what's-his-name's [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► face coming down asking for money but [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► still it's not you know if this is not [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► the ultimate fate of every website this [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► is the fate of websites that are slowly [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► going circling the drain [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► it's it's very hard to monetize a [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► website in 2016 that doesn't have a very [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► particularly targeted audience likes [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► nopes in ways that aren't horrible like [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► this is this is not like a gradual [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► progression that happened over the last [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► 20 years [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► this is a very rapid progression [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► happened over the last like three years [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► it's been it's been very recent very [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► quick with with the the massive shift in [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► traffic of like where traffic comes from [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► going all the way into facebook a ton of [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► of desktop browsing going away being [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► replaced by either phone browsing or [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► just not browsing websites and just [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► spending more time in social networks [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► instead it and of course all the you [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► know Robo ad networks and all the [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► problems that go along with those like [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► the horrible ads and the massive fraud [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► problems and I mean it it's a tough [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► business now to try to make money by [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► just having an ad-supported website it's [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► very very hard it's nearly impossible [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► for most sites to do it in a way that [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► they can both afford to have any kind of [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► staff quality at all and also have a [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► site that is not very focused you know [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► audience why so it can get very [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► expensive ads and that is not just full [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► of horrible crap like that it didn't [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► look around [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► how many websites do you see that are [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► really in great shape these days that [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► have a staff of more than like two [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► people it's it's really hard to find any [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► at all the more reason that like the [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► well-known sites have a leg up because [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► they're like where did everybody go for [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► movie stuff IMDb I mean amazon bought [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► them already so they basically have [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► already been saved by their plans but [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► you know it's not impossible and it [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► isn't if it's going to be more difficult [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► now than it used to be or whatever the [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► ones that have the most advantage are [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► the ones that are already established on [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► your defining categories even slashdot [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► never got this bet or isn't this better [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► now because I'm really still exists we [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► all / trash in the comments a fair point [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► so what about like the sweet home for [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► example that's not just students with [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► terrible ads all over the place now to [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► be fair they are [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► they appear to be pretty reliant on [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► affiliate amazon affiliate money and go [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► straight is reporting what looks at a [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► glance to be 20 different trackers [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► interviews on the Site yeah and I mean [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► it is basically a shopping site so it's [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► different like what if you're shopping [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► site you can make money off of affiliate [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► stuff we offer the prophet of things [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► you're directly selling it's very [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► different for you know something like [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► snowshoes like a very basic content site [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► you know you make money off of page [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► views period and it is really hard to [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► get anything good there these days [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► especially when you are both big and [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► untargeted likes notices snap should be [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► no different than wikipedia though [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► because anything wikipedia [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► general-purpose there's no confined [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► audience it's extremely broad it's a [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► simple side that just contains text and [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► a wikipedia not vested with that or [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► viruses wikipedia also you know first of [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► all it is donation funded by up what [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► seems like a pretty large amount of [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► people and even then they still put the [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► giant jimmy wales head on top of the wp [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► a-- in what seems like a very increasing [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► frequency but that also i'm pretty sure [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► that they have a pretty small staff of [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► actually paid people and I are they [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► probably went on profit right how many [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► people do you think stopes needs I don't [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► think it needs a gigantic staff of [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► people and they could they could [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► leverage volunteers wide this this is [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► not a site where people have to file [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► seven stories a day I was like a gaming [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► site or something they're much harder [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► categories then snopes it just feels [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► like a shame that slope is exactly one [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► of those sites that because it's mostly [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► purely text and it's simple site and it [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► shouldn't require a giant staff and [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► they're not you know the reviewing cars [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► are sending people to trade shows or [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► doing anything else that cost a lot of [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► money upfront it you know it's just a [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► shame that it is like and and because [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► it's so popular people still like this [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► notes i wish i had been replaced by like [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► a stack overflow vs kaur equivalent [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► where the crappy psyche and replaced by [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► the better one but instead we all just [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► go to slopes and just every time we do [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► it gets worse when you know it's also [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► possible you know it we don't we don't [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► know that the snopes owner who own snow [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► is it some big companies just kind of [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► don't think the maggots on Snopes now [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► you ever feel like you know they could [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► just be really tired of running it and [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► just maximizing profit for a while to [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► that is also a possibility here [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► I I think it's more likely that they are [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► a at least partially victim of the [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► problems that all web publishers face [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► these days with trying to get any money [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► out of ads in an age where almost [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► everybody browsers on phones almost all [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► traffic comes from facebook and almost [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► nobody click on ads on phones by the way [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► you have to make money other creepy ways [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► and also the ads that you're selling are [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► being sold by decreasing the few brokers [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► with decreasing prices [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► fair enough alright and to bring this [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► back to pokemon you really nothing today [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► but hey that's this is the rules you got [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► to get through the follow up before we [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► move on he wrote in to say my friend was [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► very excited to play pokemon go with her [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► seven-year-old son she excitedly [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► installed it and said let's go out play [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► but he was quick with his rebuttal [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► no mom pokemon is for old people say at [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► times just like that were all old all [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► over again [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► it's kind of true like you look outside [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► there was a couple stories about this [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► but a nintendo targeting people and in [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► generational waves like you played [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► pokemon as a kid now you're ready to [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► play it on your smartphone because the [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► same situation with my family realized [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► that if your kid doesn't have a [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► smartphone it's very difficult to play [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► pokemon go without at least one person [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► with a smartphone you can tell the tubes [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► you do have to be on the move with [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► internet access at the same time and [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► seven-year-olds don't have a device a [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► portable device with internet access [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► that they can walk around the [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► neighborhood with they would have to go [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► i'm going to be going with a parent [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► anyway but like when I look what I see [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► all those pictures look at all these [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► people they're all playing pokemon go i [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► don't see fifty percent kids I don't [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► even see 25 percent kids they see maybe [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► like five percent kids in ninety-five [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► percent young adults and adults so it is [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► a game for all people i don't know cares [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► only about money right but i will say [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► although if they're finally nintendo is [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► making public statements trying to [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► deflate his home stock right now like [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► you realize we don't make that much [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► money from this like we get a license [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► fee and the actual money goes another [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► company like it's great that you double [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► the stock price but perhaps you don't [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► understand how this works we're not [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► getting as rich as you think we are [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► delightful [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► alright any other follow-up for every 48 [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► hours later no actually we we did get [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► one really nice note from person in kap [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► kap said hi [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► one thing that's great about Apple not [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► updating the mac for ages there's never [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► been a better time to buy a mac second [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► hand if you want to manage to pick up [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► 2011 imac with a SSD installed for an [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► absolute bargain added a bunch USB 3 [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► ports for Thunderbolt dongle and [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► couldn't be happier [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► it doesn't just this means this machine [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► was ridiculously cheap I wouldn't feel [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► like I'm missing out on anything besides [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► right now by not getting a new mac and [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► this is I think this is a really good [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► point because like when you see that the [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► entire lineup inserted in certain [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► families about the whole Mac lineup has [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► not changed that much in like 3 years [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► that means you can buy a three year old [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► Mac and it's still pretty competitive [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► with the with the brand new ones that [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► are coming out today and you know that [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► it's a mixed bag [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► obviously we'd like things to be getting [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► better over a period of three years in [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► the computer industry but as long as [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► they're getting better so slowly or not [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► at all then you know like you could pick [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► up like a three-year-old mac pro that's [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► almost out of warranty now for probably [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► a decent price and it's still the same [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► machine being sold new you know more [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► more realistically you know you most [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► people would be doing that most people [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► can get this get similarly great deals [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► on like a macbook pro you can get the [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► first generation retina macbook pro is [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► from 2012's now four years old and it's [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► not that different from the ones they're [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► selling brand new still today like it [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► isn't that much slower you know you [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► might you might have to replace the [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► battery if it's worn out but these you [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► know the poly batteries don't work don't [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► wear out that quickly so like you can [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► really get amazing deals on like three [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► to five year old Max now that are almost [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► as good as the ones they are still [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► selling brand new today I have trouble [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► bending my mind in such a way that this [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► is actually a good thing like i know [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► some people can you know is it like I'm [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► not missing out as its not much for [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► someone you could buy new but it is [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► still a really old and really slow [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► computer just so happens that you can [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► even buy one is that much better but it [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► doesn't change like an absolute values [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► the state of Metal Machine and also it [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► may not change like Apple sort of [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► deprecation window like a like mind [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► pro and a bunch of machines don't have [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► support for mac OS ER and stuff i'm not [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► sure that window Apple sort of sliding [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► window of dropping old hardware support [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► for os's takes into account the fact [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► that Apple is not making their computers [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► much better so I think that window moves [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► along whether Apple releases new max or [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► not which is kind of said and really [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► you're right it's not there not that [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► much worse than the current ones in some [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► cases you can find a machine that's it [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► that's a couple years old that has some [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► attributes that are actually a little [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► bit better than the current machines but [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► all you're doing is putting yourself [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► even farther back so that when the new [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► max and i really do come back like that [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► gap will suddenly want because we all [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► presume apple will continue to produce [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► Macintosh's in the future at some point [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► and when they come out suddenly that you [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► know the the feeling that you have it's [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► like oh this is such a bargain such a [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► good deal because the gap between you [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► and the best available is small the gap [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► between you and the best available is [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► about to take a giant leap and that's [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► not gonna feel too good so I yeah it i [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► can see whether this person is coming [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► from but my to my mind my personality I [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► think it's even worse to buy used one [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► now it's kind of like if Apple was [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► rapidly advancing you could get a used [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► one that is better in terms of absolute [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► value just because they're going forward [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► so quickly that you don't but everything [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► but like I I think it's better [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► all-around maybe i'm just sad about this [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► well I mean I suppose you could look at [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► the the most horrible way which is if [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► you buy a brand-new machine from apple [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► today you're basically buying a 30 pitch [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► in at four brand-new fries i'm saying [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► like saving like save your money and [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► rather don't buy you don't buy new one [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► don't buy used one just keep putting [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► money into your little buy a mac later [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► fund so that when they do come out with [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► new ones you can get a fancier sure but [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► if you if you need a mac now and u14 [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► like I don't know [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► 700 bucks like what do you really and [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► especially if the mac mini is not going [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► to suit your needs which at seven or [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► seventy bucks it almost certainly won't [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► and even if even with infinite money it [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► might not if you really want a laptop [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► which almost everybody does these days [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► you know it if you have that kind of [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► budget and [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► you know a good macbook or macbook pros [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► gonna cost you nearly two thousand [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► dollars you know once its options [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► reasonably then that's a pretty good [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► option to you know get a three-year-old [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► 14 you know basically you know get [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► today's mac for what it's actually worth [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► today which is a three-year-old was [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► surprised if I had a business and I [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► absolutely had to buy was like new [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► employees becoming a bar and we didn't [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► have computers to them i might buy you [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► the cheapest use when I could possibly [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► get with the idea that i will buy a new [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► one also like as soon as they come out [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► because that that is probably like [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► what's the least amount of money we can [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► spend now to get a computer on your desk [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► that you can use while we wait for the [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► new mexico out knowing that as soon as [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► they do we are going to resell those [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► used ones and get a new one for you that [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► makes sense to me [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► I mean you could you could probably get [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► a used 101 for the same price it will [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► cost to upgrade the new one to one [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► terabyte don't remind me [TS]

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00:18:42 ◼   ► club com / ATP thanks a lot i talked a [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► lot about this on a recent episode of [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► reconcile the differences that I think [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► it's not out yet so I don't really have [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► that much to reach read about it here [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► although honestly I'm not sure how much [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► overlap there is no dancing those two [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► shows so may be able to sell the same [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► things again in true Marco fashion he [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► says he doesn't have anything to say [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► about a topic menu says everything over [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► um so this topic is twitter twitter [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► little verified checkmark the [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► historically people have had if you're a [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► super important celebrity and people [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► want to know like is the real Sheryl [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► Crow and you look at their little [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► twitter profile and it shows a little [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► check mark you're like oh it must be the [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► real one and not the million parody [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► impersonation accounts or whatever of [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► which there are many how to Julian [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► Sheryl Crow is your example example I [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► don't know I was trying to think of a [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► celebrity I could the kids know these [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► days and shuttlecock sheryl crow the [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► most recent celebrity come up with Free [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► Association now it's not the most recent [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► but like I mean I guess I could've gone [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► with taylor swift I mean I don't know [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► what you anyway that's what the check [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► mark has been for historically and I [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► think we've talked about this topic [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► before how it would be much better if [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► that kind of attestation where twitter [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► says yes we are telling you that this is [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► actually the person you think it is if [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► that was available too many more people [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► because it's not just celebrities that [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► suffering from counts that I've [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► impersonate them and otherwise make [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► their lives miserable by people [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► mistaking them for somebody else just [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► like different unicode characters are [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► capitalized instead of an L or like [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► whatever I mean I don't understand that [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► much because you can just right click on [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► your web browser and take a screenshot [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► much easier than making a fake Twitter [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► account but anyway the second aspect of [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► this is because because historically [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► been celebrities that get that check [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► mark [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► twitter has rolled out a series of like [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► different views and tools and filters [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► and features in their official client [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► that are only available to people who [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► are verified with the idea being they [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► have so many followers and have so many [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► replies to go through they need extra [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► tools to deal with their stuff and again [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► a lot of people who deal with harassment [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► and other problems on Twitter could also [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► use those tools but oh they're not [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► important enough to get verified and so [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► I think our last conversation about this [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► but I was saying and so we're giving you [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► two were green like verification should [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► be available to everybody and we [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► understand that it takes time and [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► possibly money to verify because they [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► have a look at your gonna need like a [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► state ID or they basically need to check [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► that you really are you and that takes [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► time and human being has to do it in [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► that costs money but we like just charge [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► a fee for it if it costs you money we're [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► not saying where you have to give us [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► away for four free charging nominal fee [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► because pretty much everybody i know who [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► desperately wants to be verified for [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► actual for a purpose you know to to get [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► the tools to deal with harassment or to [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► make sure that they're not impersonated [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► would gladly pay a nominal fee to I mean [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► they'll throw the money at you in two [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► seconds to get the little check market [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► says yes I really am my is limited [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► celebrities why not open to everybody so [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► in theory recently [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► twitter has changed its rules in the [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► light of the whole Ghostbusters abuse [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► thing and all you know one of the stars [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► Ghostbusters got it chased off twitter [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► by a bunch of terrible people i don't [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► know if that was the impetus behind this [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► move but it you know timing was it looks [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► like it [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► twitter verification is now open to [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► anybody who wants to fill out an [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► application on towards web [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► site you told a bunch of field you try [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► to tell them why you think you should be [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► verified if you're a brand or a company [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► you can check checkbox for that if your [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► individual you tell them like here's all [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► the places where you can see why i am [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► here's why should be verified and then [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► it goes to a big black hole in theory [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► they come back and say yes your verified [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► or no you're not and this comes up [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► specifically as it relates to the show [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► because Marc Marquez verify for a long [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► time whether you were verified like the [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► very beginning this is why would I i got [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► verified like three weeks ago course [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► it's it was really recently I thought [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► you've been verified for a long time no [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► I i started ranting about it there is [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► some well it was when the most app [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► engage with that they launched a couple [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► weeks ago with my son of AI like the [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► celebrity only yeah and see what people [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► are saying about your tweets or whatever [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► like he go surfing yeah i mean if [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► anybody could use it but yeah I mean I [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► actually use it for a few for a few days [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► on my phone and kind of try out but when [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► that launched i was i was basically [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► ranting about how like you know this app [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► gave special privileges to verified [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► people in the in the way that like not [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► not as the very people using the app but [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► if you were verified you your tweets [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► would show up in these filter views [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► higher than non verified people and I [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► was just like yet one more thing that [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► was because the verified system has you [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► know having assessment this has lots of [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► problems and inequalities that inherent [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► in it you know it's one thing if it's [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► only for identity verification but once [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► you add any other like bonus features or [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► higher statuses once you attach those to [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► verified status it makes this program [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► something that should be available to [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► everybody because then it's like well [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► you know if verified people get their [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► tweets seen more in certain filters are [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► going higher priority things are get [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► certain abuse control filters that that [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► other people don't get I mean everybody [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► should be able to be verified that [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► because then that's that it's a feature [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► segment not like a status thing and anti [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► status to also like abuse control [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► features and relevancy insert stuff is [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► that's kind of its kind of icky you know [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► so I was ranting raving about that and a [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► nice person who worked twitter submitted [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► but it seems like that's been open to [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► the public now that's great sort of it's [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► great in that ok will now a lot more [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► people can get verified but it still is [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► subject to some kind of like importance [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► judgment on undecided who was reviewing [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► these forms because we know like for [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► example a federal poverty she got [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► rejected which is insane by the way it [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► completely a person who at it is like he [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► has his own website that popular [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► websites around for years [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► yes like I said a pillar of the [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► community but it's not an obscure place [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► he's not an obscure person and he's not [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► even like just like a random person who [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► happens to have a blog like this is [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► years and years of working in like if he [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► doesn't I he should be verified under [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► the the old password toting around all [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► the websites that like all the tax act [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► or whatever and say hey here you go [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► anybody who works your website can get a [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► check mark didn't get one then and the [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► fact that rejecting out makes no sense [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► exactly because like for you know they [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► they always a you know that they had a [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► lot of rules shifts over time of what [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► kind of people would get verified [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► initially when i first started it was [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► basically like people who had the most [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► followers on Twitter and kind of work [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► their way down the following account [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► until they got just above my number of [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► followers they stopped and they say and [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► then it was ok well now we're gonna do [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► like you know public figures like [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► celebrities put politicians and people [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► who work for the media and that was kind [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► of loosely defined the media it always [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► meant whatever kind of media I didn't do [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► so it was you know not just bloggers and [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► not podcasters and not app developers [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► but if you work for like a journalism [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► thing whatever however they find that it [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► was it [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► these definitions we shifted and we're [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► very vague and really very much based on [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► like does some handful of people at [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► Twitter think you're important this [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► month and it was it was weird it was [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► like if you worked for you know if if [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► they declared a certain website of [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► publication to be like a verified [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► publication anybody who worked for them [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► would get verified like this big batch [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► that they would do and so like you you'd [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► have people who like wrote one article [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► 44 like a paper somewhere [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► I'd like 400 followers and they verified [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► and then you have people of like 50,000 [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► followers who can't get verified it just [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► it was always a weird system and it's [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► always been this kind of like vaguely [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► defined very like cumin judgy kind of [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► clarification like I I feel like one of [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► our friends reached out about a year ago [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► to see to try to get the three of us [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► verified and they told because you know [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► he knew a guy who knew a guy and the [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► response was we don't consider [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► podcasters to be media personalities at [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► this time and youtubers were getting it [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► the podcasters more it's just like it's [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► always been this weird system and its [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► it's always gonna rub me the wrong way [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► that's why i started complaining and [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► eventually I complain enough like I [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► verified and I made a joke when I got [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► verified that you know now that i got it [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► in like three weeks they're going to [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► just end the program and they didn't [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► instead it was open to everybody looks [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► like it's been well i got like that so [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► your complaint was originally hey it's [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► like you said it's a stupid tie features [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► and things that a lot of people could [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► use to this whole vague status thing [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► right exactly and i'm not saying that [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► whoever was to help you speaks for all [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► twitter but what happened was not [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► hey you know marker you have a point we [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► should change the way we do things [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► instead it was hey you know Marco if we [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► give you a check mark will you shut up [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► like I'm not yet another thing that yes [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► that was the intent or whatever but like [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► it adversely the person who did this [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► view is not empowered to change [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► Twitter's policy right so they can't [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► like it's not a CEO that did this for [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► you i'm assuming right so they just [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► tried to do the nice thing that could [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► make you feel better which is a good [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► customer service move and it's like I [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► can actually solve your problem but how [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► about if i do this is to make you feel [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► better and like you know what kind of [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► does make me feel a little better but I [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► didn't do anything to it to solve the [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► actual problem because the person who [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► cared about this was obviously not the [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► CEO or anyone in a position to solve the [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► problem and as for that the media things [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► to to reinforce your point that anybody [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► vaguely associated with anything to get [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► one when the Twitter checkmark fairy [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► came to Ars Technica is offered to [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► everybody including to me and i am one [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► of those people who writes like one [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► article year I didn't 400 followers but [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► you know I was not a my contribution [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► star tecnica though they may have been [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► large in size where [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► few in number and i was offered to check [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► mark and I didn't take it because part [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► of the conditions were you would be [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► getting a check mark as part of our [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► technique as you have to use your are [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► technically email to be associated with [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► it and I didn't want to check mark [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► Esparza a because I didn't feel like I [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► was part of ours like I was a freelancer [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► i'm not i don't have any sort of you [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► know stake in the company i'm not even a [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► full-time employee and never have been [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► right and be I didn't want to check mark [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► as part of our tecnica I because I'm a [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► giant ego maniac or whatever want to be [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► recognized for myself and if you don't [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► want to recognize give me a check mark [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► for being me than fine i don't want one [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► like I don't want to be an architect his [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► coattails or whatever so for multiple [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► reasons I turned that one down and I [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► figured Mike look around you know it [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► never gonna check mark and we're going [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► to check mark right but this whole thing [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► of like whatever I've always you can [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► find a press release or whatever was [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► opening it up to everybody the [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► application process may be open to [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► everybody but as the TV shows [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► it's not as if they opened up the check [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► marked everybody not only did they not [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► open it up to everybody but their [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► definition doesn't make any sense [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► because it's maybe it's a slightly [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► broader definition but if the teacher [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► doesn't fit under the definition then I [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► should get a check mark either and I [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► don't like that because i want to check [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► mark that's what this time because [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► beyond all reason I want to stupid [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► checkmark and as I whined about at [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► length on reconcile the differences i [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► don't need to check mark like the people [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► who actually needed people who are [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► actually the targets of harassment who [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► need these tools people who have huge [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► number of accounts impersonating them [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► because I mean Brad Brianna was that the [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► poster child for this like the fact that [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► she doesn't have a checkmark makes no [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► sense she's constantly in touch with [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► twitter sending them hundreds of reports [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► getting accounts banned and no one [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► received the receiving end of this flood [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► of like reports reviews of Tears goes [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► you know it might help this person maybe [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► we should make her verified and she has [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► a huge number of followers to like every [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► criteria you possibly think of like for [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► someone who's like not a publication or [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► whatever that doesn't make any sense [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► so I'm frustrated with these strange [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► rules i'm frustrated that even under the [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► strange rules i still don't have one and [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► yes i did apply applied on wednesday i [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► had to fill in a bio which I never [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► filled out on Twitter intentionally [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► again was not [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► 10 minutes of whining about this and [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► resolve differences it's impossible to [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► write a bio that doesn't sound god-awful [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► so i just got off a vile you look at [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► twitter.com / syracuse right now you'll [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► see my god awful bio i had to put a [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► birthday i already had header image i [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► will end when either the application i [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► was worried that they would get yelled [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► at for my header image my header image [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► is a picture from the video game journey [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► which I love and everyone should play [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► and no one should get be spoiled about [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► and it's like a-a-a-a wallpaper that you [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► could download from sony's website but [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► technically contains like copyrighted [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► images or whatever like maybe go to the [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► sony sites like hey you're just in [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► journey come here and here are [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► wallpapers and that's one of the [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► wallpaper so I assume it's free for me [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► to take and put as my header image i [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► don't even know anyway I filled it out i [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► have not heard back from everyone else's [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► today I entered this thing into the [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► application and I heard back and I'm [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► verified and i have a check mark all [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► sorts check marks at blue checkmark [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► sprouting everywhere and honestly I [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► shouldn't care all i should care about [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► is that the people who actually need [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► check marks at them and by the way those [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► people still aren't getting them which I [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► don't understand but anyway you need one [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► John you need one [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► yeah i'm not getting one either this is [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► like the good version of a Wikipedia [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► page because everyone thinks they want a [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► Wikipedia page but anyone's heard me [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► talk about what he knows i have many [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► problems wikipedia i don't want to [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► wikipedia page is the curse more than a [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► blessing but but a checkmark it's [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► basically only upside and no real [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► downside and I I don't have them [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► let me tell you why you want one because [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► like you know why I want one you notice [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► or legal maniacs first of all [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► yep but like you can look at it from [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► like the original purpose of verified [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► and it's kind of like the lock icon on [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► SL site you know I get a lock on your [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► address bar [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► first of all you can quit there is worth [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► question like is that even effective [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► because we know that we know very much [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► that the lock icon address bars has [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► never been very effective because nobody [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► goes to check it and all the web [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► browsers keep updating their designs to [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► more and more emphasized the security [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► level of the site that you're on or to [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► put up even crazier and scarier warnings [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► if something is not quite right and yet [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► people still get fished all times [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► and still into their stuff and insecure [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► forms and everything so we know that [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► that kind of warning doesn't really work [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► for the most part for most people [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► because most people just don't think to [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► check that kind of thing or they don't [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► know to check the kind of thing and even [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► if they know they sometimes forget and [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► just miss it [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► whether its original purpose is kind of [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► its not that relevant because the [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► original purpose is not a very strong [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► purpose what it really is is jewelry it [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► is it is a surprise it is it is a assign [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► awarded to you that says I am important [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► and because it is emphasized everywhere [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► you're seeing those big blue checkmarks [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► always important people in your timeline [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► so it is very much a status symbol and [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► whether whether you need or want the [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► additional filtering features it brings [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► you want to be a special person and [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► honestly when I got it I have almost [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► felt like a responsibility has been [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► granted to me and I have to like to eat [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► more responsibly now it's weird like [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► it's a right [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► how does one go about 20 more [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► responsibly when you're not winning that [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► previously you would have to eat it it's [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► it's like getting like a like a BS title [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► at work to try to like make you more [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► responsible like it's totally worked on [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► meet you there like I'm like well you [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► know I'm like representing the blue [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► checkmark now I I better you know you [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► know that it is like how like contract [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► supposed to like you know drinking bars [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► in their uniforms and I kind of feel [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► like you know I i got like you know be [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► good for this checkmark and Beyond but [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► beyond better behavior now because it [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► because you can't say that it's not [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► really Marco but not that really me [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► that's an impersonator know it just kind [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► of feels like I've been blessed with [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► this honor that I have to like treat [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► well I don't know it's it does it's not [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► rational but that's how it feels [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► well for what it's worth the there's an [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► account which is at verified is that the [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► this is an account on Twitter that from [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► what i can tell follows every verified [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► account and it follows a hundred ninety [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► thousand fourteen accounts as we record [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► one of those accounts ladies and [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► gentlemen is this guy because guess who [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► got his blue checkmark a couple days ago [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► i did in man John does it feel good [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► oh I'm sorry yeah it's okay it's not bad [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► but the thing that burns me up so much [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► about your check mark that you've got to [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► six hours after filling out the app [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► patient like you fill out the [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► application not too long before i did [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► like basically I didn't fill it out [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► because i was too busy podcasting with [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► Marlon while trying to fill it out which [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► is why we ended up talking about it and [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► so when the show is over i filled it out [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► you feel that you said what six hours [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► later you got your check mark [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► yeah it was a little after noon on [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► whatever day it was announced and it was [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► just before I recorded the latest [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► episode of analog that i received it and [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► so we actually talked my can I talk [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► about this on analog as well but yeah it [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► was somewhere around six or seven hours [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► it's like it's showing up to likes a [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► really popular event just after the [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► whole crowd gets there like there's a [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► line of five people can you wait 15 [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► minutes there's a line of 3,000 people [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► so now I'm somewhere back in EQI just [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► assume i'm going to get rejected because [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► that would fit perfectly with the [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► completely arbitrary pattern of like not [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► giving the g1 rejecting the TG and just [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► never responding to Brianna like it fits [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► perfectly with with the the whole notion [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► that is just like a hamster in a wheel [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► over there some kind of random number [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► generator and no actual human with any [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► kind of judgment is doing this because [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► honestly if there was anybody with any [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► kind of judgment doing this like not [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► giving verified checkmarks immediately [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► every single target of gamergate like I [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► don't understand the meeting where you [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► would like to we didn't think about this [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► and should get the check now that's just [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► not ever do it for like a year [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► that sounds good guys ok good let's [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► break for lunch like I don't understand [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► the logic don't understand that collect [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► I don't understand [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► and how can it be staff to such a degree [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► that Casey's wait time is six hours and [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► that they they gave him a thumbs up and [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► yet all these other people don't get the [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► idea it doesn't make sense to me anyway [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► I totally recognize that this entire [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► topic of conversation is obnoxious and [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► that I shouldn't care what do you care [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► because they made us care they [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► manipulated listen to caring for these [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► blue checkmark yeah there are some with [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► some legit reasons that did that at a [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► regular person would want this like [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► people who don't need it like me like [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► that because you get you get more [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► features that make Twitter nicer to use [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► and I think you're thinking the lock [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► icon is great just like I want my [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► account to seem trustworthy and two [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► people not to think it's me and I have [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► had a few impersonators have reported in [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► their accounts have gotten close and [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► like whatever [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► it's not i don't have any actual issues [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► but it put it this way if they literally [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► open to everybody with ten bucks i would [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► pay ten bucks in a second [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► oh yeah I mean like I i registered the [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► overcast account for and I I i signed up [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► for I filled out the form roughly the [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► same time you did I think John and I [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► haven't heard back from that either it's [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► still pending but I did it for for [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► basically that reason of like I wanted [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► the overcast twitter account to appear [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► you know official to really make it look [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► like this is a real business for a real [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► app that that matters in the world [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► because it's good enough to get a blue [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► checkmark like I want people to see that [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► that is that it helps look more [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► professional [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► I mean we're gonna do the same thing to [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► the ATP account 880 pfm on twitter i [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► want people to know that's the official [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► account of the show and so check mark [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► would be good to give them the [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► reassurance that they like what was the [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► ATP one is not just add ATP that's a [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► different one and you might not be sure [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► and again like it's a thing I think [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► should be open to everybody as in if you [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► have ten dollars boom you've got a [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► checkmark know like a mechanical process [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► with no humans involved except for the [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► verification part and that's what you're [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► paying your ten dollars for but like the [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► idea of being rejected for verification [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► doesn't make any sense to me [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► yeah yeah it is weird with that said in [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► my what is this like three or four days [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► of living the sweet sweet sweet blue [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► checkmark lifestyle I've only noticed [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► two differences so far did you get your [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► gift bag [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► yeah yeah did you see that special [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► present they gave us oh yeah I'm process [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► so good that was that was awesome anyway [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► so if i look at the tour website on the [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► in the settings area on the left hand [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► side where it begins with account [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► security and privacy blah blah blah blah [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► there's a there's another one which i [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► believe is new [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► that's notifications timeline and I [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► don't recall having seen this before and [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► it says filter tweets by and then [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► there's a checkbox only one of them [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► that's quality filter is quality [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► filtering aims to remove all tweets from [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► your notifications timeline that contain [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► threats offensive or abusive language [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► duplicate content or sent from [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► suspicious accounts i haven't yet turned [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► that on just because I don't feel like I [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► really need to and what kind what kind [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► of people might need that feature i'm [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► having trouble thinking of any examples [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► want that [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► why is this not available to everybody I [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► i got the two accounts open here but it [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► might be available to everybody because [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► like maybe the computational or [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► scalability thing or whatever but then [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► too bad fix that we have computers now [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► computers do these things quickly i'm [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► trying to think of a scenario where is [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► reasonable but even if you're gonna give [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► it to limited set of people who would [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► you give it to who might you give this [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► thing that's limited say you only have [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► you know 500,000 hand out who would you [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► give it to [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► I don't know maybe you would like you [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► said divorce it from there are five and [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► offered to people who are constant [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► target of abuse or no maybe just not do [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► that so yeah so there's that and then it [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► was actually Mike who got verified in a [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► beautiful wonderful turn of events got [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► verified after we recorded analog so I [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► had been an entire episode of analog to [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► lord over him and and make fun of him [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► for not being schools i am which was [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► delightful but anyway he had noticed [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► once he got verified that apparently in [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► the official app there's a notifications [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► tab and there's a new entry in the [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► segmented control there so he sent me a [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► screenshot and what he had was all [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► mentions and I believe he said that the [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► verified one was new so he can look at [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► notifications from everyone noted [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► notifications just in terms of mentions [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► again this is the official app or I [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► guess mentions just from verified people [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► or perhaps any sort of notification that [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► sourced with a verified individual and [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► those the only two differences that I've [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► noticed i don't know Marco if you've [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► noticed anything else [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► well not really just because I don't use [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► the official client or the website very [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► often same here and so most of the stuff [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► only is visible in those places and [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► honestly it might be like you know if I [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► starting a lot of abuse again I know [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► they were there appears in the past [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► where I've gotten here and there is [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► nothing like what people like Brianna [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► cat not in close but you know if that [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► kind of thing became a problem for me i [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► would very much consideration is [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► official apps and again if you're going [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► to make this like a content filter kind [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► of thing and abuse filter kind of thing [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► you want as many people as possible [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► who are legitimate account holders to be [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► verified and if you charge a bit of [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► money to be verified it really does [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► you know it it puts a big barrier [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► in front of any no not necessarily like [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► to the point where nobody can pay but [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► not all people will pay in order to make [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► a bunch of dummy accounts to troll [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► people with or harass people with you [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► know typically you know when you pay for [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► an account you are less likely to be [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► willing to just throw it away and [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► because you lose that money and you know [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► you have to pay again if you want to [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► come back to the service and and like [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► there have been like my my old friend [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► something awful forums back from my [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► early internet days they they have [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► system they were you had to pay i [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► believe it was ten bucks to register an [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► account and it was incredibly effective [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► at keeping out spam and crap and if [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► anybody got banned you know you get if [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► you broke a rule you get banned like [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► yours out ten bucks and if you want to [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► come back you gotta paint of ten bucks [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► and it really did make a big difference [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► in how well that community was run and [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► how little crap there really was there [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► compared to number of people that were [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► there you know that's just mean [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► probably doesn't work for something [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► that's supposed to be as as mass market [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► as twitter which is like AI think that [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► have to come up with a hybrid strategy [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► where they would have to be like we we [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► will give out free checkmarks to [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► everybody who we think deserves them and [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► then we will actually higher or set a [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► policy where deserves make some sense to [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► somebody in the entire universe and then [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► anybody can get if they pay like you [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► need to hire because you don't want it [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► to be like oh you know so few people [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► will pay you don't want to be like only [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► people with this amount of disposable [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► income are allowed to participate in [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► twitter because I think twitter has [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► already established itself is sort of [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► like everybody can be on twitter it's [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► open to everybody it's free but maybe [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► that's not sustainable either but it's [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► kind of a shame to take a service with [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► that broader appeal as opposed to [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► something it's like a community like [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► metafilter are where those forms you [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► were talking about where it's not going [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► to be everybody's gonna be a tiny subset [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► a very small community and and even [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► there's kind of a shame to select only [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► people who can afford to add that money [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► but you're right that it is like [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► incredibly effective to raising the [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► quality because no one wants to keep [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► paying money to to make sock of it [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► puppets because it just it gets [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► expensive and it doesn't feel good i [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► mean i guess the unfortunately at the [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► scale Twitter operates i can imagine [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► people like running Kickstarter's to [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► fund the creation of the sock puppet [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► accounts like in the alternative [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► this record was always the pay thing [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► they were just raised tens of thousands [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► of dollars from horrible people to [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► constantly make it site and you know [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► anyway this is like so many things [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► Twitter does this is weird state where [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► it's not clear what the new rules are [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► it's not clear how long was the last [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► name is Marco said who knows that you're [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► checkmarks tomorrow and and split these [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► features into different things but at [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► least it's some kind of oceanfront and [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► by the way speaking of the checkmark i [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► use a third-party clients i'm an old [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► twitter user I really surprising people [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► use the official client but apparently [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► lots of actual people do anyway [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► and my third party client has an option [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► for whether it wants whether it should [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► show the checkmark overlaid on the [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► little you know avatars for individual [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► accounts and I always have it turned off [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► because I didn't like when I'm going [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► through my time I didn't like the sort [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► of the visual indication that this [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► person was more important than what they [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► had to say was more important [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► I mean if I dig into the account I've [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► ever have questions or is this really [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► the celebrity itap name i can see the [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► checkmark but seeing the check market [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► but also because i actually follow a lot [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► of people who have checkmarks who [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► actually no I don't need to constantly [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► remind that they will have check marks [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► and I felt like it was making me pay [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► less attention to the ones that don't [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► have checkmark so just turn it off on [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► all of them [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► you know pretty quickly after that uh [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► that feature is available several years [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► ago and i would definitely not want to [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► turn it back on that either then you [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► aren't seeing our bling [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► hey I know believe me I know I put it on [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► tomorrow I thought I thought you had 14 [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► years I'd forgotten about that whole [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► little blob thing [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► yeah the funny thing is right after i [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► got mine mark when I were talking [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► privately and we had concluded without a [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► shadow of a doubt collectively that [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► there was zero chance that you would [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► solicit your own checkmark because you [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► are above that and then fast forward [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► like two hours and you said in the [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► release like oh I totally ask them and I [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► can't believe i've got no I've I thought [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► you knew that we discussed before I want [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► to check work forever 10 we knew that [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► you wanted to check mark that wasn't up [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► for grabs but we also thought there [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► would be no chance that you would like [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► apply I wouldn't apply now you have to [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► have to apply once they say it's open to [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► everybody have to apply like it i just [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► choked down writing that stupid biome [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► like kinda do it like even like a little [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► box where they say like tell us why we [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► should verify you i wrote like the most [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► Craven like disgusting [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► here's why I'm an important person thing [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► like I'm just like this is the strongest [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► argument i have here it is [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► I'm not no no being coy no beating [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► around the bush this is it and thank god [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► that's not public [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► hey I don't like I'm what am I gonna do [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► be like all shy and mirrors like well [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► probably shouldn't give it to me i'm not [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► that well-known like no I think I should [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► have it like I maybe I should have taken [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► a couple sentences to say I mean I can't [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► even be honest and say you should not be [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► giving this to me before you give it to [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► every single person has ever been [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► targeted by gamergate like its it but if [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► you start yelling at them telling what [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► they should do also not a good way to [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► get a check mark so anyway they're just [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► not responding to my request anyway so [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► it's been what three days now [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► whatever so and analogue on the episode [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► of analog that will be out by the time [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► this episode is out [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► John John your john mike and i discussed [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► what we had written and it was funny [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► because we took two different approaches [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► lon what we wrote to justify our [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► coolness and i agree with you was it i [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► am not a fan of writing that sort of [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► thing about look at me I'm just so [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► important and let me tell you all the [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► reasons why but what I ended up doing a [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► spaceman name-dropping people that I [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► knew and interact with that are also [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► verified so like that's not a power [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► moved my brother love that Barack Obama [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► one sort of Nomar Armand think so no I [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► mean I'm serious that's what that was [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► the approach i took was you know hey I [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► share a podcast with verified user mark [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► harmon and Jones are yousa hey [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► well the fact is verified that might [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► have that actually actually strengthens [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► it would write that's my point no no [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► that was exactly my point you and I [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► talked about how much on relay which [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► also has jason l verified in cgpgrey [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► verified and and my podcasts are you [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► know by many thousands of people each [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► week and leg approach I mean obviously [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► worked but then again like with this [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► black box we have no idea i worked it [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► could have been because what who the [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► person who was inside to check your box [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► with adp boom Casey less done [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► yeah and my took a different approach [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► she what did he see did I forgotten now [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► but whatever was I spell my name of the [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► y which is much cooler than I don't know [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► what it was that's what it was was he [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► had said he thought to himself what why [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► would they have explained [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► made this available to everyone it must [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► be because there they want people to [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► verify their you know their identity and [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► so Mike was all oh you know I'm really [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► concerned that people that listen to me [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► might not be able to find the real me [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► you know and in playing the whole like [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► parody card and and I'm very poorly [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► paraphrasing what he said Golden Girls [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► on that up so the analog but we took two [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► different approaches and well I gotta [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► tell you my bling looks great how to [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► save yourself Marco but he got his 2 i'm [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► I got it makes perfect to write [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► yep I'm like totally deserves want to [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► like you mean it's no question but like [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► that that's an interesting approach i [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► mean like i said i have had actual [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► impersonators we're using my avatar and [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► using variations on my name with [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► different unicode glyphs and stuff to [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► make a thing like that had happened to [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► me not a lot but it has happened he [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► ended up going with that approach and it [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► working good was it did have real [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► examples it was just speculative and I'm [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► afraid I to go on there i don't recall I [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► feel like he was speculative but I'm not [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► a hundred percent sure about that anyway [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► you have no idea how annoying i'm going [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► to be when i get rejected [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► yeah okay because I'm where do I go from [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► there do I just reapply every six months [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► forever throughout one month [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► yes one month every month I can't I did [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► save the paragraph of text there on the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► box just so I don't have to think it up [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► against I'll just paste in every month [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► but like what is considered as a certain [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► point I'm just gonna stop I'm not gonna [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► be able to like to muster the just what [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► is the quote from Jerry Maguire and not [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► apply in the world am I asking you guys [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► check your entire quote gonna look it up [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► now have you eaten are you seen that [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► yes but forever ago yeah i actually did [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► see it but I saw it like when it was new [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► which was a very long time ago [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► all i know is i love looking at my bling [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► everytime it flies by after I tweet [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► mmm looks good for awhile i i i i [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► actually had trouble recognizing myself [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► on Twitter like if I'd like double click [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► to tweet to like get the the [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► conversation history and like mine would [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► be at the roots i wanted to see like [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► which of my tweets is in response to em [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► I for like the first few days I'll it [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► didn't register visually as me at that [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► like when I see the avatar with [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► checkmark onyx like that's not how I [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► look on Twitter all right here you go [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► this is the scene that you guys don't [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► remember but you should be cut all this [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► what is this for quotable things are you [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► cutting my Jerry Maguire quota go I'm [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► gonna cut like half this topic it's so [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► well you but we don't have much in the [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► other end of it so when you get it you [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► know when you're here [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► this is ben jerry's talking to we're [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► computing during your was playing like [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► the athletes that he represents the [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► sports asian timeout here for you [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► you don't know what it's like to be me [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► out here for you it's an up at dawn [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► pride swallowing siege that I will never [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► fail you tell you about now I blew it i [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► was so close so close anyway up at dawn [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► pride swallowing siege is my think of as [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► a good description of reapplying to get [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► forever and every month because that is [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► a hell of a pride swallowing siege [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► oh wow John I I genuinely feel bad for [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► you and I really want you to get there [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► you shouldn't you no one should feel bad [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► for me for the love of God no one please [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► don't feel bad for the most pathetic [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► thing in the entire did not actually [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► important know we should know better [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► than me you should you should pity me [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► that I care about this at all [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► well I do that too but don't cry for [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► John argentina exactly do you think you [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► know something from Bob culture are you [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► quoting like the Madonna remake no I saw [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► that uh wait which one we came out like [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► the nineties with on investment with [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► Donald okay that's what I saw [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► yes what are its fine at least that's [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► all one of them i mean come on [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► yeah well anyway I'm well I hope you get [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► your check mark in no small part because [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► it will make getting the ATF em check [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► mark that much easier because we can say [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► hey all three about it and it probably [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► won't because apparently the process is [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► random and the teacher doesn't everyone [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► is anyone talking about gamergate I mean [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► this is part of the problem with any of [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► these like human review it you know it's [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► like the app store where like even if [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► you set rules in place and even if the [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► rules don't change which I think for [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► Twitter's verification process those are [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► two big requirements that probably have [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► never been met before but assuming you [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► have no codified rules that don't change [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► much over time you still have a team of [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► humans and forcing them and like you [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► know when when the teachers went through [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► it could it was right after this big [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► rush started it could have been a bunch [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► of people who saw this giant pile behind [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► them and it was right before lunch and [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► they were tired and they were grumpy and [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► they just start saying no no don't like [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► it could be so many things once you have [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► like humans trying to review a whole [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► bunch of stuff [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► subjectively and it's it's just these [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► kind of roof systems will never be [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► consistently enforced as long as there [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► is that subjective component to it [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► that's why this [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► that's why they should remove that and [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► it should just be like do you fit the [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► basic qualifications you know can you [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► prove your identity with like you know [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► government-issued ID that we trust and [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► can you know maybe pay a few bucks for [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► our time since you since you know we're [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► going to the wrong people [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► that's it like that should be all it is [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► and as soon as you put in judgment calls [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► of well ru important enough it's never [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► going to be consistently enforced we're [TS]

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