The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► is there where's there a good summary of [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► what the hell happened in the keynote [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► i'm on in your notes damage on I didn't [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► take good notes what do you want from me [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► you guys are the best so we are here [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► live in California almost on vacation we [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► are in my hotel room [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► so any weird audio things that might or [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► might not be here that's a the parc 55 [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► fault definitely not ours and so we just [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► got out of the state of the union and so [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► I guess there's a lot to cover here I [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► don't know how much we're going to today [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► because we have a bit of a time limit [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► let's just try to get started huh right [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► so what was the first thing that was [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► covered in the came out it was it I [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► don't like it was all blurred when I [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► don't have a swatch i was watching [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► that's right that's right there and [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► watch us three holy crap it turns out [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► the watch 3 is actually the first non [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► beta version of watch us in my personal [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► opinion man did it look good [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► well we haven't used it yet don't look I [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► said look good idea was good yeah but [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► honestly and no I mean I mean you know [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► I'm kind of a watch skeptic at this [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► point our yeah but a little bit but but [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► no I mean I think it looks great and I [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► was really really hoping that they would [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► you know kind of just read rethink the [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► watch rethink the app paradigm rethink [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► the but the difference between the [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► glances and the app and and everything [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► else and I think they did and it looks [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► really good i'm very tentatively [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► optimistic about it honestly I think it [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► shows that they are like you know by [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► getting rid of the glances and by [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► consolidating you know the app with the [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► face and everything it looks like they [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► are actually willing to reconsider and [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► rethink fundamental things about how the [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► watch works and that is awesome and it [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► was because you know it kind of needed [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► that you know Obi I think the overall [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► the overall impression that I think [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► we're getting from apple for about the [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► watch during this is please use apps [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► like that's kind of like you know first [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► of all please make asked for and [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► secondly like they are they are being [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► much more forward with users including [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► things like the like the the [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► complication like gallery they showed up [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► in the ethyl and the stadium in there [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► there being more for with users about [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► like how how how they discover that they [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► can put apps on there [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► watch and by making this better [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► hopefully they'll make them a little [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► more you know sticky and useful for [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► people so overall it looks great and I [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► really hope that it ends up performing [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► and just being as good as it looks in [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► the keynote yeah as the one of the three [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► of us that i think is most enthusiastic [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► about the watch i was overjoyed by what [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► I saw I it looked unbelievable Apple [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► apparently has made tremendous strides [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► on making appt launching considerably [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► quicker as far as we know all of that a [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► software doesn't require any new watch [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► hardware which presumably is coming [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► sometime soon but no formal mention was [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► made of it it looked awesome and there [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► were some other features that I thought [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► really good the the emergency thing that [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► they did so if you mash down what was [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► once the completely useless contacts [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► button but it's now the like what is [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► that the glances button or not glances [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► but like that after the Amazon was gone [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► yeah yeah doc so I seamaster on the dock [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► button and it shows you what today is [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► the three sliders which is power off [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► power reserve lock device [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► well if you hold down the button long [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► enough it will eventually place an [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► emergency call to the local emergency [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► number in the particular locality that [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► your standard sitting and and so if [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► you're in Hong Kong with you have an [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► American watch it will call whatever the [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► appropriate number is in Hong Kong if [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► you're in America regardless if you [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► watch happens to be British it will call [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► it's very very cool it will also i guess [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► paid or send a push notification to the [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► emergency contacts with your location [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► and and I guess whereabouts or whatever [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► it looks really really cool yeah this is [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► i mean i-i I worry a little bit about [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► how easy it is to invoke like if you [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► just hold down the button because it is [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► fairly you know it's not that uncommon [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► to accidentally hold down the button on [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► your watch if it's like pressing against [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► something to have an action that read [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► that only requires it to be held down [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► for a long time with no additional [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► confirmation step I think there's a bit [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► of a risk of false alarms there but [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► overall the idea of this feature is [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► really nice you know implementation [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► details aside the idea of it is great [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► and it's yet one more reason why some [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► people might want the watch yet one more [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► benefit some people might get from it [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► I don't expect this to be extremely [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► widely used but for the people who do [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► use [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► it'll make a really big difference in [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► their life and that's that's nothing to [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► sneeze at [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► I think you can make it too complicated [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► though like because if you're in a [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► situation and all like you can't make [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► that you can really make it be an [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► interaction can really make it so okay [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► well to call mine online do this then [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► look at your watch then place your [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► finger precisely to touch this thing [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► then do that then you know like confirm [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► and double confirm insert both keys it [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► really has to be the all i can do in [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► this injured state is grow up for my [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► watch feel a physical button and hold it [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► down for a long time and even that may [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► be beyond the their physical abilities [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► of someone who's in a real dire [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► emergency [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► I mean a more clever i'll have enough [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► for collaborate and even more prone to [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► false alarms implementation would be if [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► it notices like your heart rate going [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► down to unsafe levels or something but [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► then again some people have really low [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► heart rates and I don't know that you [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► know like you're trying to make it sort [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► of the this watching is actively [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► monitoring whether this person is alive [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► and healthy and when they're not at [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► sends notifications on to call 911 but [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► at least something there [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► there are location out to their [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► emergency contact or whatever I mean [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► overall for although the watch three [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► things I don't want to be mean Apple but [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► it kind of makes me wonder maybe i watch [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► has been in development for a long time [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► and they launched it with one of only [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► two physical buttons on the device being [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► a feature that basically nobody used and [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► they fix that and watch us three great [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► girls were all talking about this you [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► know that consolidated things made think [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► that one of the biggest applause lines [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► when people realize they repurpose that [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► huge button on the side up to something [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► that people whose I'm like when you were [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► testing it internally did you have [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► testers bias where you so enamored with [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► the idea of contacting the other five [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► people on the watch OS team and sending [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► them scribbles or whatever like that [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► that that you convince yourself that is [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► actually such an important feature that [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► deserve this big button i think it [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► reveals a flaw in their testing group or [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► methodology or some other bias that they [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► missed this and it's also a shame [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► because of apples recycles that kind of [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► have to wait for an entire year from to [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► fix this because it required a big [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► rethink like I feel like almost all the [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► things that they're revamping here with [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► the exception of the text of making [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► launch faster but almost all the other [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► revamping seem like things that could [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► have discovered with a with a [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► broader test group when they were coming [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► up with the first design and the rest of [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► the stuff like making it launched faster [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► that's not really making a launcher is [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► making it be already launched can be [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► already there right keep more stuff in [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► memory so you don't have to launch it [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► because you're never going to get [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► launched fast and slow hardware that [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► seems like a good rethinking I've heard [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► some people say that is actually still [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► not quite stream lined to left enough [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► that you could streamline it further so [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► that you could control the entire watch [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► with just the physical buttons for [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► example in your fingers and sweaty [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► sweaty finger people are very angry [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► ok the idea that trying to use you're [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► watching a certain point your finger [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► becomes useless it's got its 22 sweaty [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► right and so they want to be able to [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► quickly hit physical buttons to stop and [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► start timer on their work out and stuff [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► in situations where the finger cannot [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► precisely interact with the screen [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► anyway so I think there's still ways to [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► go in terms of accessibility for can i [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► use the watch like a regular watch [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► without touching the screen at all i'm [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► not sure the use case that Apple cares [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► about this point but definitely watch 3 [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► is it huge step in the right direction [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► on all fronts especially performs the [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► way they showed and especially if [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► whatever hit there is the battery life [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► is not noticeable because one thing I [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► think people are mostly not been [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► complaining about is that my watch dies [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► in the middle of the day so maybe they [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► have a little bit of battery despair [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► maybe they can squish things down and [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► they'll be enough overhead for all these [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► background updates and stuff like that [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► yeah well I mean the watch battery is a [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► bit of a problem for the 30-millimeter [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► users who use work out a lot of that's [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► true but beyond that yet in general [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► you're right i mean most i mean when i [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► was wearing the watch i would finish [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► most days with like fifty percent [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► battery left which is great but you [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► weren't using the apps on the launch [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► like that ever see how this works out in [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► practice was like it you know because [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► the apps or so cumbersome to use you [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► wouldn't use it for that and so now if [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► they become better to use I don't let [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► that hold the whole brushes that we want [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► people to be in and out of the apt [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► quickly small quick interactions and [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► your interactions can't be quick if you [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► can't start them until you know 3 10 [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► seconds past they are talking about how [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► the current app won't go away for a much [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► longer period of time so that if you're [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► in the store looking at a shopping list [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► every time you bring that you know you [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► look at shopping list you somehow we [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► navigate to it and you check off the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► item you know Scott and then you put [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► your arm down you walk 20 feet and i'll [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► pick up another item pick up your watch [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► again it's like I have no idea what [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► you're looking at here is the time [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► like I was just looking at the grocery [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► list find the grocery list again even if [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► it's something as simple as I hit the [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► button swipe swipe to the doc go back [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► into the end it will remember [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► oh you were just looking at your grocery [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► list and stick on that and this is kind [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► of like a mind-reading thing where when [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► you want it to be on the last thing you [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► were looking at your frustrated that [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► it's not but if you just want to show [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► the time you're frustrated that it's [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► showing the previous watch so there's [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► another delicate balance and I hope they [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► sort of user tested this more in the [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► real world maybe now the largest [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► publicly that they could have been all [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► wearing it maybe that was the full on [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► the methodology if you try to wear it [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► secretly small group of people you're [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► not gonna learn like it's so easy to [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► convince yourself that little wheel of [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► people is like super awesome and you can [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► send each other like digital times and [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► stuff and then once it's out in the wide [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► world you're like you know I don't find [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► myself using the wheel of people that [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► often we have a whole big buttons use or [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► something else but but kudos to them for [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► not being stubborn saying you know that [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► they didn't come up with the right [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► paradigm the first time so let's try [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► again instead of trying to just let me [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► do minor tweaks and maybe we can adjust [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► it as if they change the purpose of the [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► home button iOS like it used to be when [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► you push the home but you went back to [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► the grid of icons we turned out that's [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► totally wrong and we're using for [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► something that they got that right the [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► first time on the phone they did not get [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► it right and watch [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► yeah yeah we should probably move on [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► from the watch pretty soon but a couple [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► of other notes a lot more support for [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► people who are wheelchair bound which I [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► thought was really really cool that's [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► great I'm and among other things a the [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► stand notification now says time to roll [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► take a break and push around for one [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► minute i thought that was really awesome [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► and I i can imagine if I was in a [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► wheelchair I think that's amazing and [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► certainly more inclusive they did a lot [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► Welton they sort of did a lot with faces [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► so there's different phases newer faces [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► more customizable faces yet unless I'm [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► missing something you can't as a [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► third-party developer make your own face [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► it's just the complications are a little [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► bit more robust now is that kind of a [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► fair summary yet it's basically I mean [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► yeah you you have basically no ability [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► to make faces at all but complications [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► suck less you know before before like it [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► one of the reasons why we haven't seen [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► you know an incredibly useful [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► complications from developers is there's [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► been all sorts of limitations employees [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► and honest underscores way better to you [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► know qualified to talk about this than I [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► am because I because basically I from [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► what he told me i discovered there's [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► nothing for me to do they're really [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► before you know things just things like [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► you know how [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► often the complication update its own [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► data from its app versus just try to [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► guess from like a timeline what it [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► should be discovering stuff like that so [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► with this release some of those [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► limitations have been lifted and yeah i [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► mean there haven't been removed just you [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► know maybe like the limited raised or [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► some some new things are possible that [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► weren't possible before and complication [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► but it seems like that the major [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► advantage that the watch apps have is [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► that kind of unified glance / at mode [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► and if you're configured as a [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► complication you you could you're more [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► frequently kept in memory or something I [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► don't know the details but like you have [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► higher privileges in the system and [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► you're refreshed more often and you you [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► can you know you can respond faster [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► because you're kept more memory so you [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► know for people who want to configure [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► one or two apps as their complications [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► those apps will be substantially faster [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► to respond then the other ones in the [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► system but we will see how that shakes [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► out and all the apps will have [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► background refresh the the big slamming [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► other on the old watch was that a lot of [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► the times when you went to anything any [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► kind of screen very often used all the [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► information and by going to the screen [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► you triggered ok now this application [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► gets to do something to update [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► information and again that kills the [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► whole getting get out quick nature of [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► the watch the new system is back and [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► refresh all a privilege for i think its [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► rollout definitely privileged if it's a [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► if it's a complication and the little [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► demo they gave was update all of your UI [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► so it always matches so that you never [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► in a situation where the glass shows one [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► thing but if you launch the app but [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► showed something else of it but if you [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► you know so on the complication shows [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► the third thing to just keep them all in [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► sync always up-to-date and in the old [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► regime of watching so you couldn't do [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► that because you weren't running until [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► they activated you and by then it was [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► too late because you should was supposed [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► to already have the information so [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► they've learned that lesson they've [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► implemented hopefully in a way that [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► again doesn't kill your battery and and [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► sorts out the limited memory on the [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► watch in a way that actually enables the [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► applications you use frequently to be [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► all today tall consistent now in it [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► always really really good it was funny [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► that they actually showed a [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► demonstration watch is two and how [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► crappy it is too late and have been [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► watching was too and is kevin lynch i [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► believe was basically said in so many [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► words [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► look at how crappy this is you guys [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► don't worry we fixed it so it's all good [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► people apples apples willing to to [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► critique their own past work once the [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► problems [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► go away that one yeah and once the [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► problems you on the work isn't how [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► crappy this is look how crappy this was [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► yeah it's very disappointed you're right [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► a couple quick other watch highlights [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► scribble I think they called it so you [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► can actually do handwriting on the watch [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► and that will turn into text I don't [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► think that's going to be terribly [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► convenient [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► however I do applaud the fact the the [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► fact that it's a possibility that it's [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► something you can do because sometimes [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► you maybe don't want to dictate and [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► maybe only want to write one word like [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► the example on the apple website that [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► goes through all the different stuff on [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► the watch is the word starbucks like [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► you're not gonna want to you're not you [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► may not want to dictate that necessarily [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► but at least you can scribble out STI [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► ARB and it would hopefully figure out [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► and I would never want to be be heard [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► saying the word starbucks natural [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► aptitude and there's this feels more [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► like an accessibility feature feature [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► for people who have difficulty speaking [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► to it because I can't think of a [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► situation where i mean you can whisper [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► to the watch bring it up to your face [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► and say starbucks whispered it's like a [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► prayer and then like but because [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► scratching out those letters [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► graffiti-style not graffiti you can [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► actually write actual letters on a [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► little watch face especially if you have [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► the small watch [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► oh boy that does not sound like a good [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► time and dictation for people who [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► haven't tried it [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► dictating on the watch like dictating [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► anywhere if you're afraid to be talking [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► to your device's just do it a few times [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► do you realize wow this is faster than i [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► could type on a keyboard because it [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► usually is for most people it's really [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► efficient but yes it's nice they added [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► there is an option and it's definitely [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► an overwatch os3 feature table throw it [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► in we can do it may be good may be bad [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► maybe people use it in certain [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► situations but why not certainly it's [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► not sucking your battery up its input [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► mode and yeah it's better than it's [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► better than digital doodles to each [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► other it's not you know so and it also [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► supports Chinese which yeah that's a big [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► house which is really impressive and [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► actually that's a great mini segue there [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► were a handful of people of color on [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► stage there are a handful of women on [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► stage and I thought every single one of [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► the people of color and women on stage [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► absolutely killed it will talk a little [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► bit more later about the woman whose [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► name escapes me that did the music demo [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► who I thought was fantastic and the [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► woman who did the scribble that the [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► Chinese scribble demo I i could have [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► practiced that character a couple of [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► characters or so [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► this week's and screwed yeah that's [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► difficult the amount of space I mean [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► look so big up on the screen no it's [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► drawing chinese character but think it's [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► like some of those strokes were so small [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► on like that finger must have been [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► covering the entire thing yeah I don't [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► know enough about a Far East text input [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► to know how important it is to be able [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► to do this on the watch like his [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► dictation worse in in Chinese or [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► Japanese or other language like that [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► because I don't always get you know it [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► still seems like it would be faster to [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► dictate but certainly drawing out [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► characters or he's like you know [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► selecting radicals or whatever and [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► combining into characters like when you [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► have language that don't just have 26 [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► letters it's nothing it's a big feature [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► well and also like you know it when you [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► have a language like that where the the [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► density of like how many characters you [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► need to express the message that you're [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► trying to shoulder when you have like [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► you know only a handful of characters vs [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► like you know having to step out five [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► words and I think it's more compelling [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► because it's in a less time you didn't [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► put this thing on this on this very on [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► this device that has very limited input [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► capabilities but you know overall I [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► think that the dueling of characters is [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► it's the kind of thing where like it's [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► going to be one of those fine balances [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► where it has to be a very short thing [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► you're trying to doodle and it has to be [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► way faster than doing it on but then [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► taking that your phone just doing it [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► there and like it's only you know if [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► it's also it's almost like the [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► implementation and the context what [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► you're doing these things if it's going [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► to be a big pain like the first few [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► times you do it you probably can say is [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► you take my phone from now on to do this [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► and this thing so it has to be really [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► good and you know it's it's probably not [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► going to be that widely used but it [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► would be nice for the for occasional use [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► i think yeah i'm getting back to the [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► diversity topic like yeah become this [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► before is there's only so much apple can [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► do here because they're the high-level [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► c-level executives the people on there [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► like important people page are mostly [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► white guys right now and you have to [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► wait for them to die or retire to be [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► replaced until you can fix your [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► diversity problem at the top right you [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► know like that that's just a problem [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► they face from years and years of not [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► paying enough attention to this topic so [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► they're fixing it in presentations the [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► best they can't they still have you know [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► Craig federighi q and like everyone else [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► up there like doing it and and tim cook [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► and like the whole people who are really [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► really in charge at the very top the [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► right below them the people who do the [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► demos there's no reason that those have [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► to be a bunch of people look at that [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► exactly like them right and so they're [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► doing they're doing a good job they're [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► doing and it's amazing like they could [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► have done this many years ago but it's [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► taken a long time for them to realize [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► you know like the first time I did it [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► like we'll have one woman presenter like [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► keep trying no yeah okay we'll have two [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► women presenters but both white good [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► you're making progress on it's like [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► they're they're slowly working the way [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► up to in and like you said all the [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► presenters are great of course like you [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► know all they're gonna be great because [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► they get these aren't just like random [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► people they picked out of Apple [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► employees you look at their titles [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► they're in charge over intimately [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► involved with the products they're [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► presenting their not like random drop-in [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► people they they know their stuff [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► they're enthusiastic about it and like [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► everyone else on stage they rehearse the [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► hell out of them into so everybody's [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► so that was nice to see it's alex is [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► still going to be years and years before [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► you see that at the very top but I hope [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► all presentations are like this should [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► be like the minimum bar now for example [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► the top level they should all be like [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► this and quality wise as well because [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► yeah now I thought I thought it actually [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► added to the quality of the presentation [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► as a whole to hear different voices and [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► in because these people like you said so [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► freaking good at doing these [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► presentations mean he's careful these [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► people were the first time I'd seen them [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► on stage and the better than Craig's [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► first time hard yet [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► now to be fair i freaking love Craig now [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► got any cute now [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► yeah that's yeah that's already come on [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► opinions so I love photos I can't wait [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► to do it anyway that's what us and I [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► think the best summary of the watch is [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► part of the keynote which up until the [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► state of the union was the my favorite [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► thing i've seen so far today but the the [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► summary page [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► further the preview page for watching us [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► which I mentioned briefly earlier it [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► says at the top of the screen watch OS [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► feels like a whole new watch which is [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► kind of uncomfortable that's hair like a [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► well this old stuff is crap today we [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► already fixed they would go over all [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► good right but it's true i mean i'm [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► really really x i'm really excited about [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► them about where this is going and the [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► watch looks really great response to [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► this week by fracture fracture is a [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► company that prints photos directly onto [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► glass go to fracture me.com you can get [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► ten percent off with the code ATP 10 [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► now fracture these photos are amazing [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► looking these nice thin pieces of glass [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► with your photos printed in vivid colors [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► the colors pop up you won't believe and [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► it comes in the solid foam core backing [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► behind the glass so you can mount it [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► really easily on walls or you can stand [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► up on desks little desk stands they make [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► it so easy to use these prints and they [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► just look fantastic [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► I get compliments on my fractured prints [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► all the time because they're all over [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► our house they make your photos look [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► good if you want to get your photo [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► printed you know what you probably [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► should [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► so often your photo just kind of set on [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► your phone forever or the UFOs what you [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► post on facebook or instagram and [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► they're there for like a day and they're [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► just buried forever and no one ever sees [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► them again with fracture you can get [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► your photos printed and have this [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► physical artifact have an actual [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► physical representation of your photo [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► that is an object made to last and it [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► just looks fantastic [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► you don't need to frame they are their [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► own thing you know they're all their own [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► self-contained thing so it looks great [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► the value is amazing for the video for [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► the price of a fantastic gifts you can [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► give them as gifts for holidays or if [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► you're only if you go on a trip with [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► somebody you can do something gift some [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► photos from the trip on fractures are [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► you can send family if you have like you [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► can like send pictures of your kids to [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► their grandparents or something else [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► like that you can do that fracture just [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► make great gifts and Great Prince I like [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► fracture a lot i used them myself there [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► if I if I need photos printed let's go [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► to them it's simple as that and i said i [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► recommend you do the same now fracture [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► is partnering with big green egg to give [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► away Big Green Egg minimax for father's [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► day all you need to do to enter is [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► visiting my dad calm and share your [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► favorite dad quote or dad joke or dizzam [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► to enter check it out today go to [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► fracture me.com and use code ATP 10 to [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► get ten percent off thanks a lot [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► so next TV OS the only thing I really [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► got from that I was really excited about [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► there were two things actually one dark [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► mode yes which is something i didn't [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► even know I wanted but now that I know [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► what I know you did as soon as I saw it [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► I was like oh yeah that makes a lot of [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► sense that's really good [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► and supposedly single sign-on which [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► supposedly will fix all those problems [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► that will be awesome to so dark mode [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► that I've noticed recently that some TV [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► OS apps have been implementing their own [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► dark mode like they've been responding i [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► guess i'm assuming user requests for it [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► i like why why do people care about dark [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► mode it's not just aesthetics but you [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► know athletics is one thing just as [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► Marco people sometimes like dark mode [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► for their applications second thing is [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► people watch television and darkened [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► room sometimes and if your UI has a [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► white background and you come out of any [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► kind of video which usually doesn't have [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► a white background [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► it can be extremely sort of shocking and [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► glaring and this is not why they did it [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► but for me specifically have a plasma TV [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► and pure white and a plasma TV draws a [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► lot of extra power and can make your [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► Transformers wine a little bit and it's [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► the situation it's a that again this is [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► not why they did it but I'm excited by [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► it and also because i watch TV in a semi [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► semi darkened room at night so it kind [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► of boggles my mind that they decided to [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► go with white for their TV you why [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► because they know people watch TV and [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► kind of darkened rooms and you know when [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► the show is over you hit the menu but [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► you know what your eyeballs blown out [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► especially since non plasma TVs have [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► incredible brightness like LED tvs can [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► go super super bright and sometimes [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► people haven't turned up that bright so [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► they can see then bright sunlight [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► it's just not a good plan and a single [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► sign on is the other major pain point [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► for like you know when you install [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► applications you got to go through this [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► little dance and go to website and type [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► in these codes and I think that stops [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► regular people from stalling too many [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► apps because it's a pain in the butt if [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► there is a single sign-on you can do [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► once and handles all that for you and [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► people implemented which i'm sure they [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► will because people want you install [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► their apps [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► this will be great so two thumbs up it [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► seems i mean the single sign-on I don't [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► honestly know because I don't have cable [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► and you know I'm probably never gonna [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► see this myself but the the dark no just [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► go back to that for a second [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► you know that we saw like with the with [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► watch us with the update it seems like [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► watch us is getting a major course [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► correction and with iOS looks will get [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► to a little bit i'm sure it seems like [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► the design language has been updated to [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► some degree as [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► somewhat of a course correction so much [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► and refreshing things making things new [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► you know things like you know buttons [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► are now more visible as buttons and some [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► of the texts little bit thicker to be [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► more legible and stuff [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► the the TV getting dark mode i wonder if [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► that is kind of like a like a half step [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► in a course correction we're like you [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► know the previous Apple TV was all [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► constantly dark background you know most [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► other TV boxes do dark background [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► because it all the reasons that it [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► basically works better for tvs the ATVs [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► are actually used and TV hardware [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► everything the new Apple TV getting this [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► all white theme up front [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► honestly I consider that a design [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► misstep and I think you know they should [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► have like instead of just offering dark [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► mode they should just make TV OS 10 or [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► whatever it's gonna be called just make [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► it dark like just rethinking the whole [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► OS to be dark because most of the other [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► design elements don't have to change [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► that's one of the reasons are able to [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► offer a dark mode without the whole ton [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► of work like almost all the rest of the [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► design works whether it's a light or [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► dark background so why not [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► course-correct all the way and just [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► really themed TV OS to be dark and not [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► have this weird setting have to mean I [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► have a bright dual design there as part [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► of the reason light mode of each other [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► like motors it did it was a [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► differentiator because except every [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► other TV box was a like a black rich [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► background with stuff on it and Apple [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► was different different a bad way in [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► this case but it is differentiated in [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► the market so it seems like they want to [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► get even a dark mode is not black like [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► the old apple TV it looks like it's dark [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► grey yeah anyway this is not the things [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► that are most wrong with TV OS are [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► mostly involved inside the applications [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► themselves how do i navigate how is it [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► presented and that's not an OS level [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► problem that's like a problem of how do [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► you implement the your app for showing [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► TV shows and movies and individual apps [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► can fix that Apple's may still be not [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► particularly convenient to use but the [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► netflix app or whatever can continue to [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► make a pleasant experience within the [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► framework that's provided that the other [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► thing that's worth bringing up with [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► regard to the tvs and you remote app [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► that was aq promise like three months [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► ago when he was when he was on the the [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► talk show [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► yeah you're right it wasn't the talk [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► show wasn't it that's here now and to be [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► honest I don't really see what some [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► people play games but they can have [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► multiple controllers you can use any any [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► iOS devices control that was the other [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► big announcement and instead of doing [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► that at CVS games can finally require a [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► real controller- [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► again at a misstep that seems remember [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► there was a bouncing back and forth but [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► the thing is released about the copy but [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► this is I don't know how you can come to [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► that decision and not realize the [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► implications not like anything has [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► changed radically in the market since [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► then they've just like heard the cries [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► of everybody else in the same crimes [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► like you just got any 5lb look this into [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► the room and said you know you can write [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► games for Apple TV but you have to mute [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► you have to make them usable in this [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► terrible remotes like seriously no you [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► have to why we want everyone to be able [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► to play them well then there's certain [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► kinds of games we just can't make well [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► try harder and then that I don't I its [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► they still seem weird about games apples [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► always worried about games this is a [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► step in the right direction [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► those controllers are still super [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► expensive than the show you know we have [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► support for controllers a family but by [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► sport controllers plus the price of an [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► apple for controls crossed like what [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► twice as much as an apple TV [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► yeah there are like certainly still like [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► 40 or 50 bucks I don't know there's at [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► least 50 years [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► yeah their gaming story is still model [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► less compared to the consoles but you [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► time marches on I mean you know console [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► controllers aren't cheap either but but [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► you know overall you like it you get you [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► definitely into console price territory [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► if you're planning on buying for [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► contractors but I think if that ends up [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► working out like if we get cool [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► multiplayer games that could be really [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► great like that could be an awesome [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► thing for the platform if they care they [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► make a first-party controller but i'd [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► read them doing well based on the design [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► of their first part of remote yeah [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► exactly [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► but yeah those tos and I mean I think it [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► looks good I we really should have just [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► steal on or something like that to see [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► if he's happy but to me it looked good [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► but i will see what happens after tea [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► vos was iOS 10 so when I said iOS I [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► really meant OS 10 which is interested [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► yeah i like i like the beginning at team [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► could come out and say we have four [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► platforms and listed them off and they [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► didn't do the rename then you know like [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► they was a weird kind of anomaly arrange [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► the presentation that was an intentional [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► tease or the just realized all at this [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► point we can't tell them it's mac OS so [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► Craig got to come out into his renaming [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► slide that he's done for the past few [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► like picking place names in California [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► like this time was about changing it to [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► lowercase a mac OS cases favorite name [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► at that was fine we expected it what did [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► they talk about what I will say though I [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► I did kind of expect them to just go [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► with mac OS 12 I didn't expect the [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► California names to continue and I [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► totally expected that some places in [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► California it's such a great branding [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► because they ran out of cats cats [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► weather good branding too but they ran [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► out but they won't run out of place [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► names in california right i think i [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► think the place names are better than [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► years and the better than numbers by the [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► way the version is 10-12 so not that it [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► matters anymore but and also Sierra is a [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► way better name than freaking out captan [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► which i still hate the all time that [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► time is over now [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► yeah thanks sara is a good name so in [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► mac OS Sierra there is a serie which [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► looked very powerful and toward the end [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► of this serie demo it appeared as though [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► it was doing a very googley photos style [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► like show me the files that involve i [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► don't know i'm trying to do whatever [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► example they use but you know showing [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► the files about the party i'm throwing [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► no show me the ones i worked on with [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► Aaron or something else something along [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► these lines where you're you're finding [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► a search query but being fairly abstract [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► well and it's kind of abstract show me [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► the files about the about the party [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► we're planning you know there's [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► something on those lines and it was able [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► to piece together what that meant know [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► the ones that i worked on with Aaron and [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► then you bring down a shorter list [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► I didn't like that it was very goofy and [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► the initial response pastor I was trying [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► to be funny be like here's your files [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► your master file there i love the way [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► you work like yeah the whole like Siri [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► like being beings like what it thinks is [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► funny and clever like the idea I think [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► that time is over now to drop though [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► there's a place for that but it's not [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► when you're in the middle of an [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► interaction our searches like and the [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► fact that everything was like [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► Notification Center was weird and they [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► have another magazine or save searches [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► and speaking of the photo stuff a lot of [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► the features that we're going to talk [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► about in the context of iOS I think it's [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► pretty clear now that they're also [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► available on the mac like the photos in [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► the deep learning in the blah blah a lot [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► of those like oh and also on photos on [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► the mac which is great like but they [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► just didn't demoed in the context of mac [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► you know backpack is ryan was all these [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► features have been demo'd like it here [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► is you know face detection for example [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► shown in iphoto it would be shown on the [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► mac and iphoto all the stuff here with [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► face detection stuff i assume is all the [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► better all be of help on the mac [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► but they didn't demo in that context so [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► surely Syria will fit in with that but [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► really it seemed like the the new [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► impressive features a series were mostly [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► reserved to be shown in connection with [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► iOS i'm assuming some of them are on the [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► mac but fact the series exist in the mac [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► is good the UI and having stuff in [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► Notification Center maybe not so good [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► and the my hope unification of spotlight [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► in Syria doesn't seem to be in the cards [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► they still seem to be separate things [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► which seems so it to me and I do kind of [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► like it kind of bothers me how [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► Notification Center is kind of like the [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► junk drawer on OS 10 like where they [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► show new features that like that most of [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► which come from iOS then the way to do [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► it that did they do that just by like [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► having this iOS like drawer guys like an [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► iOS simulator simulator is highly [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► enigmatic mystery because he asked any [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► mode like I do wish there was like a [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► little bit you know maybe more more [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► native seeming or more you know more [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► integrated you know integration of these [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► features but you know i guess you well [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► that will work itself out over time as [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► they have a you know works redesigned as [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► they say and features you use but yeah [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► overall it looks pretty cool i do think [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► though I i will go back and say like I [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► think that there i think the room for [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► Syria to have any kind of personality or [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► wit I think that's over because that [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► gets all first of all that it doesn't [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► translate well a lot of different [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► cultures you people you want how that [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► when you're conversing with it in a [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► funny way not what now when you started [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► doing a task i think i think it gets old [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► after like five seconds and then and [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► once you're past that point like you [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► don't want to hear you don't want your [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► your computer to be witty like when you [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► type in command the command line you get [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► witty responses from bosch something [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► else but i think i like it occasionally [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► but the problem is there's no way to [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► tell when I'm going to receive it and [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► think oh that's that's really cute and [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► when i'm going to see your filin is [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► stylin like come on really [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► but they don't have that are the [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► personalization stuff down like that the [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► whole thing we're talking about Google [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► is like it should learn my preferences [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► if you love the thing to be funny that [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► for those people should be funny for the [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► people don't like the funny it should [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► learn that that doesn't want them you [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► know that that is not even in the cards [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► in terms of of personalized interaction [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► with Syria that it will learn from what [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► you do and how you interact with it what [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► it is you like [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► and don't like and that they need to get [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► on that it also like its kind of no good [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► if it's being funny and also not doing [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► what you want to do that's the worst [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► like then you really hate it you're like [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► you why you being funny you just failed [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► when i asked you guys do you like it [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► just doesn't interest notice there are [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► some websites i found for why are you [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► being funny [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► hey what happened exactly I can search [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► the web for that if you'd like I mean [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► yes seriously [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► yeah like it has to like I just think [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► they're the chances of that not being [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► annoying are so low the head they should [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► just got to get cancer got abs and [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► windows windows and tabs [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► I don't know we've got a bunch of things [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► actually so going back the unlocking the [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► mac with walks watch proximity really [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► dig it or toucha touch ID on the [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► keyboard of your Mac just saying yeah [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► maybe you never know i really dig the [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► proximity thing what I want to see [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► though is how is corporate IT and like [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► that sort of now but i suspect that [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► anyone who has a job that has more than [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► just a few people at it will probably [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► have the kibosh put on that immediately [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► or kibosh however you pronounce yeah [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► today I got a lot of flack about that [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► honest question like do companies and [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► have that kind of strict security [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► requirement often use max yeah i mean so [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► my company issued me a 15-inch macbook [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► pro issues a lot of developers 15-inch [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► macbook pros and the VPN software we use [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► which is checkpoint VPN also includes a [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► non device firewall that prevents all [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► sorts of crap like airdrop why is [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► airdrop filtered by my butt by my own [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► advice and it doesn't have to be a [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► secure company as soon as you have an IT [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► department makes at all that stuff that [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► exam so so I you know I don't run VPN on [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► this computer unless i actually like [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► it's not even installed unless I need to [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► do something for work involving the VPN [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► when I will and I will install it do my [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► work and uninstall VPN because it's that [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► much for nightmare but anyway I really [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► like the idea of unlocking them at the [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► watch by proximity really dig it [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► universal clipboard i love this this [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► looks amazing universal clipper looks [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► like a good idea but as someone who uses [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► the clipboard to store lots of crap i [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► saw it as a potential for data loss [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► where some until I get into the right [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► mindset i don't have the idea that [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► copying something in my phone will [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► squish what's on my mac not use a [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► clipboard history things are really [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► squished will just push it down but it's [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► still weird for regular people think [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► we'll be fine [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► if it works well historically continuity [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► has been weird and flaky and if this is [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► built on top of continuity I don't know [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► but many third-party applications have [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► proven that this is something people [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► want the model to copy on their iOS [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► device and paste on the mac i find [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► myself about to try to do it before i [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► realized that i don't have any of those [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► apps installed 15 it won't work [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► um like continuity if this works I will [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► come to rely on but if it's at all flaky [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► i will just go back to pretending it [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► doesn't exist [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► yeah yeah I completely agree with you [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► i'm really looking forward to though it [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► looks super impressive to me I still [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► missed a spot from way back in the day [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► I'm hopeful that it works well there are [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► a few things that Apple is done today [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► make me think they're really really [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► going all in on all in iCloud which is [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► bold [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► I mean some things that our server side [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► with apple like messages seemed to work [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► pretty well generally speaking and the [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► cloudkit based things that Apple's don't [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► like notes for example seem to be [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► working well generally speaking but I am [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► I am very scared about having this all [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► rely on some sort of server so i'm [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► assuming maybe not maybe it's only local [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► but I'm assuming some server side thing [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► on Apple's well now the the one I'm [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► thinking of my tree developments that [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► I'm scared hold me was the disc [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► optimization like the idea is good that [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► people run out of space in the maknae [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► have no idea what the hell to do about [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► it and apple can tell you more space in [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► their iCloud Drive thing if they know [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► they'll transparently take your files [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► and and take the ones you haven't used [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► in a while push them up to the cloud and [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► free up the space and it will all be [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► transparent to you and you'll save a lot [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► of room on your mac and like this is [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► basically automated cleaning that people [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► don't do manually which is all great [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► like I'm all for this feature concept [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► wise and implementation was especially [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► if it's entirely transparent or well not [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► entirely transparent you would still [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► want some way for people to know the [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► dismal get pushed up to the cloud lots [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► of people have expressed the idea i want [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► to be able to tell that it shouldn't [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► push these files up to the cloud [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► I don't know like that there are lots of [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► pitfalls in terms of the implementation [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► of this but the real one is if it [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► doesn't work like reliably all the time [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► or at least as reliably as Dropbox then [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► then is just like a giant potential data [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► loss button or you can turn this on an [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► Apple will selectively hose certain ones [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► your files transparently in the [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► background without you knowing and with [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► new with no way for you to fix it so [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► this is a feature that I look at and say [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► I'm never turning I'm terrified of this [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► feature based on my past history of [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► using iCloud Drive and the complete [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► under bug ability of it and the non [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► flexibility other whereas something like [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► Dropbox focused [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► it's a single folder you can have [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► selective sink their badges on all the [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► icons to an official API they support i [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► know when things are saying I know when [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► they're not i can I can you know I have [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► a web interface to see like its version [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► of truth like all the tools available to [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► dropbox even though they're you know [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► fidgety or whatever don't seem to be [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► available miss and historically speaking [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► apple has not been as good and reliable [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► as Dropbox and other things about this [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► so this feature really scares me [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► especially since it looks so attractive [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► to people who are novices and just like [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► oh yes please take care of my storage [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► for me [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► yeah if they turn that on and it just [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► hoses everything that's going to be a [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► bad experience how you even recover [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► someone from that I know this is maybe I [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► shouldn't be so pessimistic about this [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► like implementation why is it seems like [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► it's a good idea but there are so many [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► places that from user interface to like [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► reliability to performance where it just [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► seems terrifying to me [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► yeah i mean like you know like an [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► interesting thought experiment where I [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► think would be you know if if dropbox [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► offered this exact same feature would [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► you enable like OS why not just like [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► yeah it's dropbox folder yeah did you [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► enable i don't think i enabled for [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► dropbox i don't think i would either end [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► and dropbox I trust way more than [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► thinking a cloud drive like it seems [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► like a good idea but I think they're [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► better solutions to this problem which [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► we'll get to in a little bit of the tap [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► the tabs and windows thing that seems [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► like they're just like scraping the [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► bottom of the barrel like oh we added [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► tabs the most things you know we just [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► make this an official API that you get [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► for free to use any document is easy to [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► implement you can just mixed windows [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► together with tabs lots of applications [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► have tabs it's nice to have a unified [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► interface is a recognition that tabs are [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► as common as buttons and sheets and text [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► input field and combo boxes and all the [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► other controls they have instead of [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► having to roll your own tabs here is a [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► standard control for you know not tabs [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► as in the old style one where you switch [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► your different like what they call it [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► the segmented control now just looking [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► at your actual fact abs back in the day [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► but web browsers have to know each tab [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► is actually entirely [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► no you can tear them out and combine [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► them it's nice to see that the system [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► level feature they're kind of boring [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► they look like Safari tabs and I'm not [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► sure safari tabs the best information of [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► tabs but it's a nice idea but I think [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► you get it for free of your NS documents [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► of class yeah he tells what I think so I [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► mean and I think that's great you know [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► as as a user of rs.10 mean I'm not [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► really a Mac Developer but you know as a [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► user of OS 10 i think that's gonna be [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► awesome [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► yep picture-in-picture not a problem i [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► feel needs solving but always hungry [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► I mean yeah like for people to use full [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► screen is totally a problem solving this [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► full screen is like I would like to be [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► falsely and that's how I work i swipe on [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► my pad from side to side but sometimes i [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► also want to keep my eye on the game i [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► wish they had more than one picture in [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► picture so you could stack them up [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► of course you want more windows nothing [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► haha you got it you got a 5k imac you [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► can have four games like they should be [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► like Tyler the for football games from a [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► the ESPN yeah right [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► really I i think it would be it will be [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► nice because like so often i want to [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► have like a video going from usually to [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► youtube or in some occasions vimeo [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► usually youtube so i have this video [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► going and like I want to move it to the [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► side of the screen so I can do something [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► else at the same time or so i can watch [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► another window and you have to have the [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► you know it you know if you wanna do [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► that now with before picture in picture [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► on the Mac you have to have the entire [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► browser Chrome around that showing some [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► wear and kind of move the window in such [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► a way that you like you know you have it [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► off screen it's kind of its kind of [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► clunky now so this would be nice for [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► that too now that didn't think about the [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► full screen stuff that's a that's a very [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► good point let's see what else they do [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► the messages improvements which we'll [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► talk about in a minute comes to the mac [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► as well [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► I'm not most all Apple pay for the web [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► which is a kind of exciting and I don't [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► know i think that was most everything [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► that big like flagship features seem to [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► be Syria which is similarly solving a [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► problem i don't think i have but that [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► that really deep contextual search does [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► sound pretty interesting and I am [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► curious to try that [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► so even though they didn't announce it [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► at this segment this is the bar we talk [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► about the new file system because it was [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► only available on the mac right now [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► it was not it was not announced the [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► keynote I found out about it after [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► walking outside of the keynote when [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► everybody else found that you know the [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► updated WT sessions to show the secret [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► ones and section 701 was the one about [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► the new file system they never found the [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► developer documentation online didn't [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► even get as far as I'm aware and note in [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► one of the little word clouds and that's [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► mostly because even though there's going [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► to be sessions on this and this [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► technical documentation and it was [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► announced in the state of the union [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► this is not a feature around the [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► operating systems beta is that they [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► shipped and it's not going to be a [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► feature of any the operating systems [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► that that they ship in final acceptance [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► experimental form the new opera the new [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► file system will be for 2017 because as [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► we all know 2017 is the year the file [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► system but they announced that is it now [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► and they're getting people working on it [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► what the hell's the name of it it's got [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► a terrible day pfft it's called a pia [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► apfsds stands for Apple the P stands [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► full stands for pole i guess i don't [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► PU ll i don't know it's like Apple like [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► a ship PFS PFS is andrew filesystem and [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► ifs probably also anyway it's got a name [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► it's called a PFS it is only available [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► on the mac and you can do a limited [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► number of things that now you go so far [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► you will be on the platform read and [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► write you can't boot off of it now has [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► all sorts of limitations all which I [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► assume ur because like it's not done yet [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► and so this is how they're sort of [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► testing the waters with it and letting [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► people play with it [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► I mean they're also kinda like saving [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► people from themselves here like you [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► know it's not bootable and you can't [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► time machine within stuff because they [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► really don't want you to be installing a [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► beta file system on your main drive and [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► get with your only copy computed and you [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► know people would do that if they didn't [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► have these restrictions [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► yeah and it has [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► a lot of interesting features almost all [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► the ones i would expect it to have more [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► than that more than I had hoped because [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► i had heard things that made me think it [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► was gonna have too much force it's flash [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► only yeah which we expected and that's [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► great because it means they can optimize [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► for that case it has cloning files which [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► is you would think it's just not just [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► like hard links to files but it's not [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► because they're copy-on-write so you can [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► basically duplicate file in more or less [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► instantaneously and they will diverge [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► slowly are part of that is the same [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► underlying technology i'm assuming the [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► unit for snapshots which means you can [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► take a point I'm snapshot of the entire [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► file system you can I think in clone [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► entire file system i would assume you [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► can revert to a snapshot which they said [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► it's great for flashlights classrooms [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► where they can just you know have the [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► initial state and let the kids use [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► introverted it's also great for apple [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► stores i'm sure they're all of it where [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► they can at the end of the day revert [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► all the demo devices to their previous [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► state if you are a backup program having [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► a point I'm snapshot to work out which [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► is great and you know the fact that [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► doesn't work with time machine it's [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► because the new version of time machines [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► can take advantage of all these features [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► and be a million times better than used [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► to being it supports extended attributes [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► because it has two and this this Apple [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► documentation will put a link in the [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► show notes it basically goes through [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► like here's why hfs+ sucks and not so [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► many words and it goes through all the [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► things like oh hm s+ could do things [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► where your thing was inconsistent on [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► disk and has no atomic operations and [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► things wouldn't be committed so that [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► something happened at this point you [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► think you could corrupted they tried to [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► be nice about it but yeah and the [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► session description 471 is we're gonna [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► tell you why this file system is better [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► than hfs+ which is shooting fish in a [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► barrel but it's better fast directory [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► sizing never try to get the size of a [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► big folder and it is calculating and [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► everything like they have a way to that [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► you know atomic operations limited [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► atomic operations [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► this is all great stuff out being able [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► to make containers and put multiple [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► lines on the same container and having [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► them all see that side so I can set of [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► partitioning so you have a hundred gigs [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► you can put three volumes 100 gigs and [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► they all look like they're hundred gigs [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► are not designed hundreds of the space [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► and they're going to fight for it but [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► there's no like only divide the hundred [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► big partition up into you know 50 50 or [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► 33 3333 it's just that's not how this [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► file system works its they could all [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► share the space and then they will [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► slowly accumulate into the space it [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► supports raid 10 and [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► just you know a concatenated volumes and [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► jbod where you just take a bunch of [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► disks and make one larger volume out of [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► the only real thing is missing and I [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► don't think it's something they can't [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► add later I hope is any facility for [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► data integrity at the file level to [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► account for bit rot so you have a bunch [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► of important files like your family [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► photos and you keep them around and keep [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► popping from this disc how do you know [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► that you did flip errors aren't solely [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► corrupting your files [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► the answer is for now at the file system [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► level you still don't but this seems [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► like a thoroughly modern file system and [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► the fact that feature doesn't exist now [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► I don't mind too much because all the [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► other things are doing it's like that [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► they're saying all the right things ok [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► at everything in this documentation says [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► modern sleek file system that's going to [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► enable UI features that are better will [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► make time machine better make backup [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► apps better will make it easier to roll [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► back to known good states like so many [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► nice friendly features can be built on [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► top of this file system this is what the [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► world is waiting for for a really long [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► time still upset there's no data [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► integrity but because it's nomas so [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► modern [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► I see no reason they can't add that [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► later for systems that can support the [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► cpu CPU overhead that's going to add so [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► as far as you can tell so far so good [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► two thumbs up [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► yes now i like it i'm happy the name is [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► stupid but you know then name is stupid [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► and no dead integrity which is which is [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► again it's not a small thing like I [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► talked about this past enemies like one [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► of the biggest reasons i want a new file [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► system all the other reasons are still [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► super important and it's just so great [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► to see apple finally moving on and like [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► Barbara said this is all platforms from [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► the watch all the way up to the mac pro [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► they never update that is the whole the [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► whole line they made a file system for [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► the future that spans their entire [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► product line and which is exactly what [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► you could hope for and like this is just [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► the first version look at all the crap [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► they had hfs+ and hid in there all [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► documentation like we don't have your [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► NHS plus extended attributes were [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► attacked on wasn't that crappy well here [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► is not tacked-on we thought of it from [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► the beginning it's a super important [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► feature good job guys [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► so I'm I'm excited I'm happy I'm [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► optimistic I'm ready for 2017 real-time [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► followed by the way a PFS is optimized [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► for flash / SSD storage and can be used [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► with to do with traditional hard disk [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► drives so that's interesting that's I'm [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► kind of surprised that they can even [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► call [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► did that I just that because you can [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► make like in the current uh command line [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► tools you can make like an image i got a [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► volume container image like a disk image [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► of it i am assuming people here with it [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► oh and one thing we didn't touch on as [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► one of the current limitations is [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► case-sensitive only i'm not quite sure [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► what they'll do their because a lot of [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► the unicode normalization and case [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► folding comparison crap and hfs+ is a [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► reason a lot of people hated because [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► it's complicated and doesn't do what [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► people expect and it's kind of a [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► non-deterministic but it's it's [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► complicated know what exactly is going [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► to do in terms of this is like when you [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► named files what what is the filename [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► and hfs+ really complicated rules about [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► what a file name is case sensitive or [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► insensitive [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► this is case-sensitive only for now i'm [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► assuming they will implement case [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► insensitivity but it's still I think an [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► open question will the implant case in [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► sensitivity in the same weird way that [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► is implemented hfs+ and by the way each [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► of us on iOS is has always been case [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► sensitive [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► I think so for and probably for [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► performance and simplicity reasons [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► yeah like it I mean I'm no one sees the [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► processing on the phone so it's fine but [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► yea case-sensitive is simpler to [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► implement and if they do way with the [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► filename normalization stuff will put [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► some show about links for unicode [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► organization we don't have time to [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► explain now but if they do away with [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► that and just make it a giant bag of [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► bytes and leave it up to the OS that [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► would be one easy enough solution or if [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► they come up with a more streamlined [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► modern way to do their case folding for [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► the case insensitive things and and [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► handle that I don't know I not quite [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► sure what to do but a lot of the scary [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► limitations are just because this isn't [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► done yet and this is only sort of a a [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► toy for people to play with on the mac [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► but it will be rolling out everywhere [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► next year so I have one other important [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► questions so I i do not have to get to [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► WTC I'm going two layers i was sitting [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► in my hotel room streaming both the [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► keynote and studying with a handful of [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► other people and let's say the Union it [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► happened that almost everyone in the [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► room was a developer and today the Union [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► they said okay it's time to talk about [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► the new file system and literally [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► everyone in the room of which there were [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► like six of us ever all of them verbally [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► the same moment such thing as I'm [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► sitting there watching the the talk [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► people are on Twitter saying oh my god [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► there was a ding and I thought that I [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► heard you I heard you in your room right [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► and I thought that's funny huh [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► and and then I realized no no these [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► people are not being funny there there [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► was a day is that a truth is that true [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► was there a ding in the room there was a [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► day in the room did it come from PA no [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► interesting but there was a ding there [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► was a ding in the room next up let's [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► talk about filesystems alright that's [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► magnificent and i am very impressed [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► so I just want to put that out there [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► that someone had the wherewithal to [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► either simulate or bring an actual bell [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► with which to ding when when it was time [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► to talk about the file system to the [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► personal estate here could you tell that [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► that that's going to come out of the [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► video first of all and second of all [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► it's a big place [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► I think the only people who heard it [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► with people who are in the proximity of [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► the day I don't know some people on [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► Twitter were saying they were like [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► second row or something well let's sort [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► of this way the reaction in the room [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► shows that some people know what the [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► thing was about other people didn't know [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► and didn't care but that's fair that but [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► did you notice to the person to the the [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► person speaking at the time did they [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► even notice the powers now I don't that [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► I don't think so anyway I just want to [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► say for the record I did not make the [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► ding yeah well god knows i didn't [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► because I was married [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► well somebody spent eight dollars very [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► well to make that ding approximately [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► when we start again I'm just think i [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► would never an interrupter disrupt a [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► live presentation by apple in that way [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► no of course not you wouldn't I mean you [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► know what I would not do that fair [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► enough uh anything else on macros oh we [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► forgot one more mac OS it doesn't [TS]