The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► I just want to let everyone know that I [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► remain unsatisfied well i mean i think [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► everyone always knows that yeah that's a [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► given I know but like more than usual [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► it may be too late by the time you're [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► hearing these words to order a t-shirts [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► so if you were even vaguely thinking [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► about me i might one of these delightful [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► wonderful shirts now is the time to [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► order or actually may not even be the [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► time to order you may have already [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► missed the boat so if you are interested [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► in either of our two shirts go to ATP [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► dot FM / shirt and hopefully for you it [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► sometime friday i think our time it's [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► not my field it expires sometime in the [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► friday to saturday transition I forget [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► exactly when midnight Eastern i believe [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► okay there you go if you're listening to [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► this right now and it is not yet [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► saturday and you want to shirt stop [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► everything pause the show go get you a [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► shirt and to the many many many people [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► who have already bought a shirt or [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► sweatshirt or what-have-you thank you we [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► really appreciate it [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► cool thanks everybody we'll see you next [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► week [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► goodness right so I i tweeted earlier [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► today that we would have a show without [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► photo I didn't say we'd have to show [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► that followed but at that point earlier [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► today we had we did not yet have [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► follow-up and here it is just a few [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► scant hours later and we have follow-up [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► about new macbook pros we had evolved it [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► just wasn't written into the thing it so [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► you had follow follow up it just it just [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► expanded it's like hard drive space and [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► wedding planning it expands into [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► whatever space is available for it to [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► expand into the end crap in your attic [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► right well John's adequately likely [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► knighted somatic cleaning actually the [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► the other weekend I i must have got rid [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► of I don't know 40 boxes of stuff and [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► some boxes of not stuff that's a lot [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► I'm supposed your house has been falling [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► down what do you have more of boxes of [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► stuff in the attic or browser tabs open [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► right now boxes automatic no contest [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► I'm slightly surprised to be honest with [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► you okay i mean so if if you are able to [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► get rid of 40 like how many do you think [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► are still they are mean is this is the [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► low-hanging fruit I'm going for [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► like you know the modems okay it's not [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► easy to get rid of those are we talking [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► like surfboard or us robotics now now [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► boy [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► 28 modems 56k modems 14-4 modems at [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► least are the RAK 56 flex over the ax to [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► their the witch one more than I think [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► they were the Flex 1i remember those [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► competing standards I'm think I didn't [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► look too closely the box we were next to [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► family that we were all about the x2 [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► because that's what our isp set us said [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► we should be I think x2 was was the [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► superior one until they merge the two [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► into the v90 whatever that was [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► yeah yeah maybe that's what I had when [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► they finally settled that thing we do [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► lots of boxes of stuff a lot of these [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► boxes didn't have anything in them [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► anymore some of them did and the things [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► in them weren't worth much [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► yeah a lot of empty boxes or someone [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► empty boxes someone just had cables on [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► boxes for old hard drives are driving [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► closures the easy things to get rid of [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► but it was a lot there's all these boxes [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► were flattened know and you will you [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► want to make sure that when you sell [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► your 28k 56 flex modem doesn't make [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► sense [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► you want to make sure that you have the [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► original box so that you get the maximum [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► price for it [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► well that's the way things are stored in [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► my attic is in their boxes don't get rid [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► of the boxes until I ever to think for [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► the most part but think about how much [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► more old computer garbage you could [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► store you're adding if you weren't also [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► storing the boxes i don't know if that's [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► true because they with all the loose [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► cables and everything and I just think [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► they can pack them in better like a [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► Tetris puzzle if they're all kind of [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► rectal in here [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► good anyway I got rid of a lot of stuff [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► and then getting rid of so much stuff [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► and seeing that the the bags and bags [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► full of styrofoam that you know you can [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► really compress and then the stacks and [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► stacks of flattened cardboard boxes and [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► then looking back at the attic and [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► realizing it looks like stuff has been [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► removed but not that much stuff but I [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► got a long way to go [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► like I can't believe your house hasn't [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► imploded under the weight that you're [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► putting into the Attic [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► yeah I thought about how much that stuff [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► is way up there so it's pretty heavy [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► hey wait can we solve multiple problems [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► here can you take some of the flattened [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► cardboard boxes of old computer [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► equipment [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► you've taken out of your attic and make [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► interior door trim with it for your [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► front door already recycled too late for [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► that that time have to wait till you get [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► more modems yeah actually you know us [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► robotics extra motives were about the [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► right shape to be like molding if you [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► line them all up you know that's fair [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► point don't have that many the sports [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► stars [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► yeah I i remember you get at the time I [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► didn't think of it that way but there [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► was something oddly satisfying about [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► hearing that god-awful no handshaking [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► sound like today is so much better in [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► every measurable way but like that that [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► light a amount of stress that you had is [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► this gonna work am I gonna get the full [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► no 56k oh god it did fell down on the [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► 56k negotiation so we're back to stupid [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► animal on the first thing i did and in [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► my 80 whatever its strings turn off that [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► sound come on people [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► I don't need to hear that my camera [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► frustrates me that i can't remember what [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► that was what was the code for turning [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► off the sound and 80s was it what was [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► that whole protocol call was at the haze [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► command center is it something yeah yeah [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► yeah no I actually had to leave my [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► speaker on constantly because we only [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► have one phone line and everybody would [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► always call it a nice talk to my mom and [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► so I was only allowed to you took time [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► off the phone line if I left call [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► waiting on and would leave the modem [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► speaker on constantly with special [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► config string today to set it to the [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► higher-level unlike john says to like [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► number two or whatever that keeps it on [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► the entire time so just always hearing [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► static when I was online and I did when [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► I would hear call waiting beeps have to [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► go flip off the power to modem so to [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► hang up immediately and then take the [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► phone and then just go do something else [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► for a while my mom's on the phone [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► fun yeah good times [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► cod world in any case we should talk [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► about what you're intending to talk [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► about which is new macbook pros [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► apparently there is going to be [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► something funky with the FN key row but [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► it may actually be only one screen and [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► not individual screens on the individual [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► buttons like we were perhaps led to [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► believe I don't know what to make of [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► this and i feel like my thoughts really [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► changed since last week it could be good [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► this doesn't strike me as it's fixing a [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► problem i have in my life but you never [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► know with Apple sometimes they come up [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► with things you don't know you need so [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► and his parts like Sarah legit it [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► definitely looks like one big long [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► screen and not a bunch of Optimus [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► keyboard style individual cases greens [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► on which I'm very disappointed about so [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► I had my hopes up from last week but [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► that's what it was going to be but boy [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► looking at these parts leaks you see [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► little place where probably like a touch [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► ID sensor or the connector for things [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► going to be in the part where ribbon [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► cable exits in a big long channel looks [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► like it's going to be for a big long [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► screen [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► the only thing i can think of that now [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► I'm trying to convince myself that this [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► is not as bad as i think by saying well [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► I could show notifications on it or [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► something could scroll across there i [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► don't know the other thing I was getting [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► my hopes up about was like if I was [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► thinking about a key caps maybe they [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► could be e ink so they wouldn't take any [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► power because keycaps a kind of [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► monochrome to and I would be like classy [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► but it really looks like it's going to [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► be a big long skinny screen again if [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► these things are to be believed but this [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► close to announcement date it's [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► reasonable her farts to leak is look [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► semi legitimate i'm kind of sad [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► yeah now the tipster is saying in the [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► chat that's just the amount of things [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► sits in [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► we'll see that's not I mean from to my [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► eye that is not at all what it looked [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► but it's so hard to say with these like [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► terrible pictures that clearly were [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► taken knows what sort of 14 [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► surreptitiously something like that [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► taking illicitly if you will and so it's [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► hard to tell the other thing with these [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► pictures is like you know if you if you [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► look at me like tips was also kind of [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► arguing whether this might be the the [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook which you know last week [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► we talked about this is this rumor in [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► the middle of like the big long sentence [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► of the report was also a 13-inch macbook [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► one that we didn't talk about it all [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► that's what it's worth it's worth [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► mentioning [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► and then the there's some speculation in [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► the chat that I think is is possibly [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► warranted hear that the these leaked [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► photos may have been that 13-inch [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► macbook not 13-inch macbook pro and [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► there's a few things support that you [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► know first of all the people and trying [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► to figure out like you is this [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► impossibly thin for the kind of cooling [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► system that an i5 would need but what I [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► spotted earlier when I saw these photos [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► it only has the four USB seaports [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► there's no other ports and so that would [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► mean dropping some [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► ports that are on the current 13-inch [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► also it would mean dropping the magsafe [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► port and while it is possible to charge [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► things through USB pd into a USBC port [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► like with the macbook one does [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► there's a limit to how much current that [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► can actually deliver and I think once [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► you get into like the the 15-inch [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► macbook pro with its external GPU I [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► think you're probably pushing that [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► limits its probably I'm guessing the [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► 15-inch probably still has magsafe and [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► then if the 15 inches still has it the [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► 13-inch should probably have a two [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► because they're built very similarly and [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► share a lot of similar features and [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► ports and capabilities and everything so [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► I'm guessing that the the speculation [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► that this part is actually the 13-inch [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► macbook one is probably correct because [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► that presumably would be able to be [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► charged through USBC just like the look [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► the 12-inch MacBook one or this will be [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► more likely to and you know we can [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► speculate also about what the heck [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook one might include and [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► what what why that would be necessary [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► when there's also a new thinner lighter [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook pro but overall looking [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► at these photos I'd say it is fairly [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► likely that we're looking at 13-inch [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► macbook one enclosure not 13 macbook pro [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► enclosure [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► however that said I agree with John [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► Casey I agree that if these are [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► legitimate parts which they look like [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► they probably are [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► and this would be you know a reasonable [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► time to be leaking I'm guessing that [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► this is real and that you're right about [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► the keyboard row that the FN key rocher [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► does look like it's gonna be just one [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► big screen and if you think about one [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► other detail to the these rumors all [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► said these are supposed to have touch ID [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► at least the macbook pro we don't [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► Michael on these are supposed to have [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► touch ID where do you put the sensor [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► there is really no we're on the keyboard [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► to put it you might be able to put in [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► the trackpad but that it you know just [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► is that even possible without messing up [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► the track pad sensor I don't even know I [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► thought there was a patent for that [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► well there could be yeah there's lots of [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► its patented never actually sure [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► practically showing products but only so [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► that it might be possible but you know [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► for now I know we don't know if it's [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► there i'm guessing them [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► a sensible place to put it is probably [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► on you know if that's gonna be one big [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► flatscreen probably just like on the on [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► the right side of that or something you [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► know it's an area of that is actually [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► touch ID sensor and not a screen but it [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► just looks and maybe just like look [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► straight black across the whole thing [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► looks unified but it's actually like [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► this part of screen this parts of sensor [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► you know if you think about where else [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► you put the touch ID sensor there's not [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► really a lot of other good places that [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► are plausible so i'm guessing it's there [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► and then if you're going to have one [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► area of that b-flat to be a touch ID [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► sensor and not be a key it would look [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► weird if there were a whole bunch of [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► keys next to it and the keys and like [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► one key with short of the right side it [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► connects the flat area there so it's [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► probably gonna be all screen across the [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► whole thing [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► yeah i'm not i'm not sure what to make [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► of this but I am excited and and I think [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► it's worth recognizing that this [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► hopefully will be something new in [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► different about the macbook line for the [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► macbook pro line and we haven't really [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► seen that much different in a long time [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► I mean there's certainly been [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► incremental improvements and I love my [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► work macbook pro and God do I love my 5k [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► imac but this is something new and [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► exciting and different and I kind of [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► like that we're trying something new and [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► it's not just the ones at the titanium [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► powerbook whatever that kind of started [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► this whole unibody look it's not a [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► continuation of that just another you [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► know photocopy or perhaps slightly [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► shrunken version of that it's something [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► that's a little bit different and that's [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► exciting [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► so what do you think this is the 13-inch [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► macbook one it's not wedge-shaped isn't [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► that kind of the signifier of that of [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► the sort of ultraportable macbook one [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► line is that it would be wedge-shaped i [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► don't know i mean what would have [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook one before you know if [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► you think about like bigger screen [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► ok bigger screen but then what what what [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► could differentiate it [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► what could justify existing compared to [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► just 13 inch macbook pro which at which [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► the new version will probably be almost [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► than light as the current 13-inch [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► macbook air so like why why does that [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► product need to exist and i have a hard [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► time answering my question honestly [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► whatever wimpy wimpy your cpu maybe you [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► could still be fanless they could put [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► the like the fastest of the fanless cpus [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► in there giving more battery because [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► it's bigger and [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► a bigger screen i don't know i mean that [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► if I'm trying to think of that when I [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► picture a macbook one since it's only [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► been one model line in that you know one [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► physical shape for that model line I [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► think of a kind of like the areas where [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► there was 11 chair and the 13 chair and [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► they're both here shaped and the 13-inch [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► had a bigger screen and more battery [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► life but otherwise not much [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► differentiation [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► I mean what if it's for price you know [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► what if what if this is how they [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► eventually replace the macbook air is by [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► just making these like cheaper more [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► limited computers at the low end and [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► then the macbook pro is is the [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► profitable one [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► ya see ya in a little picture they show [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► you can see the little connector in the [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► upper right which I imagined like there [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► has to be connector for the screen right [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► yeah I suppose you can have the same [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► connector for both the screen the touch [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► ID but there's also a little opening on [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► the left side that like a ribbon cable [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► could go through so if the ribbon cable [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► connects to the screen that could be all [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► the screens to the connector which would [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► lead leave that thing on the right tree [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► for touch ID but also the left side just [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► looks like a physical mounting point to [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► me but I don't know what I mean who [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► knows what we will probably hopefully [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► know soon enough from apple but but yeah [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► I i think if it's if it's the macbook [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► pro the image the 13-inch macbook pro [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► then you know [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► ok then then it makes I think it makes [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► more sense that way honestly even though [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► we'd lose you lose some of the ports and [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► things are on the current one and some [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► people get mad [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► well that's what Apple's best that is [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► angry people who like the old laptop so [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► you know that it in the name of business [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► before four USB seaports that's a really [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► pretty big number for apple and I think [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► you can do a lot with four USB ports [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► like just one of those ports you can do [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► a lot with a bunch of adapters but [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► having for the means you're probably not [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► going to run out of ports you may be in [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► Northeast have to carry a bunch of [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► adapters around but I think for them is [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► enough for a 13-inch because you can do [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► pretty much anything from any one of [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► those points you have a monitor USB [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► thumb drive an ethernet cable and an [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► external hard drive and I feel like that [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► that is plenty of things hanging off of [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► and you connect so much more for just [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► one of those if you have like a [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► thunderbolt breakout box or never [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► yeah exactly and then that also this one [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► of the biggest things I'm looking [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► forward to the USBC Thunderbolt three [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► transition because you know we find [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► only will have liked more assuming that [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► these are real assuming the laptops at [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► least some of them are getting four [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► ports total i would love to have four [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► USB port on my laptop I'm always running [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► I'm always using like both of mine [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► usually like at least one of them is [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► charging something or something else [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► like I'm always using those when i [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► travel so that be I you know I'm looking [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► forward to the future but I do wonder [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► like it it's such a weird wild cards [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► like you know it assuming this is the [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► 13-inch macbook one and not 13-inch [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► macbook pro how why they justify having [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► four ports on the 13 inch version of [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► this computer where the 12 inch version [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► has one you know it's just weird it's [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► like this is a weird leak of what [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► appears to be a very like a product that [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► raises a lot of questions that might end [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► up being awesome whatever it is but but [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► they did certainly certainly raises a [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► lot of questions still has a headphone [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► port 21 like the rumored iphone well [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► doesn't it is your right [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► yeah yes I know it's at the weird thing [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► to me is the dropping of the magsafe in [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► this in this kind of enclosure like if [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► it's if it's big enough and high-powered [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► enough to have four USB ports and no [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► magsafe then you know that it's charging [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► through this then and if that can do it [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► then why then could the 15-inch also do [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► it i don't know i don't know it's a [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► whole bunch of questions here but I [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► don't like this this is looking like [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► it's going to it's going to be a pretty [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► great update as to why this one's not [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► tapered I commend whatever decision led [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► to this not being tapered because I [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► don't always go for it to ya but I'm [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► just saying like if I have to think of [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► what defines the macbook one line it's [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► like not only is it so insanely thin but [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► there wasn't enough that they have to [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► make one edge like it then enough to [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► slice cheese [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► well also you know keep it you know get [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► account so much what I said last episode [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► about like kind of defending deep [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► keyboards because keyboards away almost [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► nothing in laptops Joey when you're when [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► you're defining like the the thickness [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► of the laptop your limited really by how [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► much you know how to wait you're willing [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► to devote to battery basically because [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► batteries are generally like one of the [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► heaviest things inside of modern [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► computing devices it might be heaviest [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► thing depending on the device and so and [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► the way you make computers thinner and [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► lighter is not by just like putting the [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► case in half and saying all right now [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► just kind of shove everything in tighter [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► I mean that's part of it but the way you [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► make them thinner and lighter is you [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► first make them lighter by removing [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► battery and you remove battery by [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► removing the need for as much batteries [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► you had before but usually comes in [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► power advancements in how much power the [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► screen and processor both draw usually [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► processors bigger one but anyway so easy [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► ideas you know you you develop [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► technology you develop savings you [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► figure out a way to make the processor [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► and everything else use less power then [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► you need less less battery mass in there [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► to achieve the same better life you had [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► before to achieve a people consider [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► acceptable so then you can shrink the [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► battery and then you can kind of shrink [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► the case around it like now you have [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► recently card how how thin community can [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► make this case that only has to hold X [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► amount of battery plus it with the other [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► parts I think the reason the macbook one [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► is as thin as it is and and the reason [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► it's wedge-shaped is because they were [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► probably first targeting a weight goal [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► because that makes more sense you know [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► it's like okay well now [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► Intel's making this new 5-watt cpu that [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► so we can make a family and everything [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► so if we make computer that's small [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► enough with a smaller screen it uses the [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► cpu it will only need this little tiny [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► amount of battery inside so then how do [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► you make the thinnest case possible to [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► contain these parts and they had to [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► still have some even though it's very [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► little some room for a keyboard in there [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► so but he didn't need the wrist rest [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► area was filled with battery didn't need [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► it to be any thicker because any thicker [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► and they would just been empty space or [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► more battery driven the weight up in [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► which they didn't want so you make the [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► front of it as thin as it can be also [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► love my battery and make the back of it [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► as thick as it needs to be to fit the [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► keyboard and the other parts and that's [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► how you get a wedge-shaped so they [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► weren't they weren't necessarily [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► targeting the wedge they did the wedge [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► because they just didn't need any more [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► space in the front half of the laptop so [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► if this you know that if this part is [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► real and this is actually a member of [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► the macbook one line and not the macbook [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► pro line it certainly raises the [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► question of what the heck is all that [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► extra space for and as far as I can [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► guess what didn't the macbook ones cpu [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► architecture that with that with the [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► crazy until five one thing didn't have [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► like a very low limit on how many ports [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► you could even drive with the chipset so [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► maybe this isn't using the CPUs at all [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► businesses using some other Intel [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► low-wattage chip that's higher end than [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► the than the core m and then that's how [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► it's driving all these ports but then it [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► needs that all this additional battery [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► to to function into to have a simple [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► battery life which of course then raises [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► the question of what the heck is a [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► difference between that and the macbook [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► pro all that empty space in the front is [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► for speaker cavities right like the ipad [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► pro 4 speakers tell you what that'd be [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► awesome [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► that'd be amazing but no I doubt it we [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► have so much space left on this case we [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► don't even know what to do with it [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► cabinets speaker cavities for everybody [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► or anything else about these laptops i [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► I'm looking forward to hearing what [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► these actually are in seeing them [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► because I i educate Casey like you know [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► major changes to to like the the mac [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► designs don't happen very often and [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► especially to like the main workhorse [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► computers like it's one thing to [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► introduce a brand-new tiny little [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► macbook one at an event but you know [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► everyone's the macbook pros it's a whole [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► thing to totally redesigned the macbook [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► pro or the imac or the mac pro these are [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► these are major events in the product [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► line and it's exciting and it's exciting [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► you know for for those of us who have [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► and love our max it's and it's and it's [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► kind of reassuring it's nice to know [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► that the company that seems like cares a [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► whole lot more about iOS devices that [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► they haven't forgotten about the mac in [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► the process that the mac is still being [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► actively developed being evolved and you [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► know and having attention put on it [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► really yeah the thing is to kind of [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► build on what you and I have both said [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► earlier is that they clearly Apple [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► clearly takes messing with the macbook [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► pro and even the the non-pro line very [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► seriously like they don't tend to make a [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► really crummy decisions like yeah we all [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► we all complain to mount a little bit [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► about the macbook one but at least you [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► could understand what they were going [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► for their and for them to be messing [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► with a design that really does work i [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► mean i have loved every macbook pro ever [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► owned and and i love the one that work [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► gave me and and i'm very anxious to see [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► this new one because if they're going to [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► change something that that is so [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► important in that and that works so well [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► because the design that they have today [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► I really do love then it's gonna have to [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► be something good [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► this isn't the playground like the [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► iphone or the ipad [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► things change fairly frequently this is [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► kind of the slow and steady wins the [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► race [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► sort of a product for them and so [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► because of that I'm really really [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► anxious I'm really really excited to see [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► it and also dreading it because I'm [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► gonna want to buy a laptop and I really [TS]

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00:23:30 ◼   ► well over fifteen hundred dollars but a [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► Casper mattress cost just 500 for twin [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► 754 full 854 queen and 954 king and at [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► the even these prices [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► these are all made in America now [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► they've also made by natural online easy [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► completely risk free with free delivery [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► and free returns with a hundred knight [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► home trial if you don't love it after a [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► hundred nights of sleeping on it they [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► will pick it up at your house and give [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► you a full refund and they understand [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► the importance of truly sleeping on a [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► mattress before you commit especially [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► considering you're gonna spend a third [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► of your life on it so you can try for a [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► hundred knights and we've all heard [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► great things about Casper from our [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► friends and family who have them check [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► it out today [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► try for a hundred Knights in your own [TS]

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00:24:14 ◼   ► returns with home pick up [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► go to Casper calm / ATP and use code ATP [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► for fifty dollars towards your mattress [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► thanks to capture for sponsoring our [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► alright so sticking with hardware for a [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► moment let's talk about this rumored [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► external 5k display this is all coming [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► back again I don't remember what it was [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► we talked about this but it was quite a [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► while ago all coming up tipster it's all [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► coming up tipster and so just earlier [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► today as we record this [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► there's been increased rumors about the [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► potential of a new cinema display [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► Thunderbolt Display given that stock [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► seems to be running out everywhere so [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► any new thoughts on this do you think [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► this is real or is John finally getting [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► his external retina display so he can [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► get his stupid trashcan mac pro what we [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► thinking the story the angle of the [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► story of scene i think we did discuss [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► all this in past episodes that maybe we [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► did it off air maybe will happen to the [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► chat room at all kind of blends together [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► but the the angle of the story is a new [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► fireplace place fine but then everyone's [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► like oh how are they going to plug this [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► into Macintosh computers and make an [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► image appear on the screen and everyone [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► is going through all the displayport [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► specs and seeing that they don't give [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► enough bandwidth and trying to figure it [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► out and going around and around and [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► eventually the GPU and the display idea [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► comes out so just as a review in case we [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► actually didn't discuss it was all in [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► the chatroom the the idea is that you [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► can power it with displayport because [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► there's not enough bandwidth you can let [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► you connect two wires which is kind of [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► what it happens internally on the imac [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► or can happen externally on current max [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► but everyone believes that I won't do [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► that because it's gross [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► you don't have two wires connect your [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► actual display and Intel is not going to [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► have the words that display board 1.4 or [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► whatever whatever standard is that has [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► the band with the power 5k 1.3 I believe [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► maybe it's 1.30 everybody the way it's [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► not going to be in the sky like things [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► is not going to be in the next one even [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► I think it's like the long ways out so [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► even though displayport will eventually [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► supported doesn't look like any of the [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► current max are going to and so the only [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► thing left is something weird and people [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► think proprietary but really is not [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► proprietary just plain old Thunderbolts [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► because remember Thunderbolt speck has [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► been with allocated for data transfer [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► and also [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► displayport and the ideas they will [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► ignore displayport it will connect to it [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► as if it's just a thunderbolt three [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► device and it will be running [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► pci-express over a wire and the thing of [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► the other end of the wire will be this [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► monitor that has some sort of PCI [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► Express Terminator so that from the [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► perspective of the mac that you have [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► connected to it looks like the monitor [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► itself is a video card and then it [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► starts to go hazy and like well as the [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► GPU entirely in the monitor maybe for [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► laptops that don't even have a GPU they [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► can drive it anyway the GPU in the [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► monitor will handle it but what about [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► something like the mac pro we're surely [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► the mac pro itself will have a better [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► GPU the monitor [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► well if they updated at night yeah it [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► will use internal GPU but then just use [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► pci-express to communicate that the [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► image information over to the monitor [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► and then the monitor will act as a [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► pci-express device even though all the [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► GPU stuff is happening on the mac pro [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► anyway bottom line is not display port [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► that's the best baby answer that we all [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► think of how they're going to drive this [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► 5k monitor from a bunch of Max biggest [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► under bolt and use it as the same as all [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► those thunderbolts pci-express breakout [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► box is only this will be a breakout [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► monitor box [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► yeah i mean this is one of those things [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► where like there's a lot of people [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► making a lot of like blanket statements [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► of well this isn't possible because of X [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► and the reality is this stuff is all [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► very complicated most of us who are [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► making these statements don't have a [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► full understanding of all the stuff [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► that's involved and what actually is [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► possible and what actually is impossible [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► and what's you know what's kind of just [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► a thing we heard the reality is the more [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► I learn about this the more I learned [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► that it's way more complicated than I [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► thought [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► there are actually ways to do it with [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► the with current hardware or the near [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► future hardware and so it's really just [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► a question of like you know has [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► everything gotten together in time and [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► we know what will support it and when [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► will it come out and mobile plug into [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► and it seems like up the answer almost [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► all those things kind of like well [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► that's up to apple it's okay i think [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► it's too early to say really [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► and I've had a long time to work this [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► out an apple does have experience for [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► example having dual GP laptops and [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► dealing with the GPU switching that's [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► another question people have like happen [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► you have a GPU in the monitor will be [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► yanked the cable out of the monitor [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► first of all yanking the cable out [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► monitors historically has always been a [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► little bit [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► weird not just went over Thunderbolts [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► right but Apple has some experience [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► dealing with multiple gpus running [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► multiple displays and laptops granted [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► without all the experience is great but [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► presumably apples the company can they [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► can do it because they know all the [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► hardware involved that they control the [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► monitor side they control the mac side [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► and surely will be limited to support [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► for you know for certain collection of [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► Max that can do this and it will [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► probably require a new OS update and all [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► this other stuff and we just waited so [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► long like how how long is the [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► Thunderbolt Display been out for think [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► you saw the date five lives it's been [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► like four years five years I don't know [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► it's it's been a long time [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► yeah well it's and it's especially [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► because it's it's barely different from [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► the LED cinema display that came before [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► it right you just uploaded with a [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► thunderbolt with the having more person [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► going over Thunderbolt yeah july twenty [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► there you go yeah that's a long time so [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► I so it is entirely technical pasta [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► technically possible now for apple to [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► launch both our new mac pro apple please [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► and for a external 5k display that a [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► bunch of the laptops that they will also [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► introduce can drive now is it possible [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► that existing laptops can drive it to [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► probably maybe especially the GPU in the [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► monitor that sufficient to drive the [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► monitor itself and this will be a weird [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► solution but it's better than waiting [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► for the next waiting for the display [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► prospective support system waiting year [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► many more years for intel chipsets to [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► support their think this is far [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► preferable so I really want Apple to do [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► this we've all waited long enough for an [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► external 5k display its time and mac [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► prompted well i'm willing to believe [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► that is not in the cards for wec like [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► I'm trying to keep my expectations tamp [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► down but surely announcement of new [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► laptops and surely an announcement of a [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► 5k display [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► oh I keep seeing more people already a [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► cue for definitely later in the year so [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► they could even they can even skip this [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► and announce it not a wi don't [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► understand why they would but they could [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► if they wanted to give all the glory the [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► WBC stage two [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► I don't know what could possibly Trump [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► this iphone stuff the Swift stuff [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► renaming mac OS and iOS i don't know [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► like who knows what they have planned [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► but this year for sure right guys mm I [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► sure hope I mean I'm really excited for [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► you have works out I don't know if I can [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► handle it doesn't you know even if they [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► release the mac pro you know John's not [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► gonna buy it [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► that's true you don't know that you [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► don't know that all saving my pennies [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► mmm your first first you're going to say [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► well I want to wait and see make sure [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► that doesn't have any big problems went [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► away for other people to buy it first of [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► course I'm gonna do that of course i'm [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► going to wonder what about everything [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► right and so then so six months in we're [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► going to remember to ask you better he [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► said on the wait six months to find [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► we're gonna say hey John remember when [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► you said you're waiting for the first [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► people to buy my first has been awhile [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► there no problem so when you bite into [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► it well so true i wish i had better gpus [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► or the gaming performance is not good [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► here and and no it's so expensive and so [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► I think my mac pro still gonna work for [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► a little bit longer I can get a few more [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► years out of it until the next one and [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► then two years into the psyche like well [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► it now it's pretty old another way to [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► the next one comes out smacks gonna [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► break someday right can't last forever [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► and those are with macros are pretty [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► solid it is tempting to try to go for 10 [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► years and no no it's not but would you [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► you would you or 10 years like for milk [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► in your fridge not like it doesn't it [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► doesn't matter well number is where this [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► is not the kind of area we should [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► achieve incredible longevity of like [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► your main computer just for this just [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► for the heck of it was a great when i [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► upgrade my ps4 to a faster version wimax [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► it's there continues not to be upgraded [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► how many gaming systems have you bought [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► in the time you've had that mac pro ball [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► at all what my n64 came out before this [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► right well i think the police ticket but [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► you have 360 right know that I think 360 [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► came out before it but did the ps3 ID [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► the ps3 but before that was like oh six [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► or something like that right yeah it's [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► not a get consultation for like seven [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► years for the ps3 still haven't [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► oh good [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► and what else is going on let's see here [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► I'm we didn't talk about Apple [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► potentially opening up Siri and [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► developing an echo rival we mentioned [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► the article but then we got off on [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► another tangent about apple and services [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► stuff we would never do that [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► us but that was that was the the [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► headline of the story was you know an [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► echo rival and the Syria opening up i [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► guess we didn't talk too much about the [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► API aspect of it but we mostly just [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► talked about apple and services [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► yeah so apparently apple may be opening [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► up Siri there may be an echo rival and [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► that's about all we know which is to say [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► basically nothing was this the article [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► that said or maybe heard that somewhere [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► else that the idea of opening up series [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► that it wouldn't be as open as the [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► skills are on the echo still be more [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► kind of at least initially for like [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► select partners to have Siri integration [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► i got i don't quite understand what the [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► holdup is on having an official api for [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► Siri Apple loves api's WWDC is all about [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► API is like they're all just look at [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► these great new API integrate this into [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► your apt to write that into your app [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► your app should have one of these and [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► get serious like ya know nothing for you [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► this year like it's been so long it it [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► seems like they could have come up with [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► the safest possible Syria integration [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► maybe you would be useless maybe know [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► and use it but I get the ball rolling on [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► the idea that Syria is not just like [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► this feature of your phone but rather is [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► an API that your apps can integrate with [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► to make you know your apps can make [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► Syria more useful in the same way to [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► share sheets made like every app on the [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► system more useful just implement the [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► new sheet API and suddenly everybody's [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► apps can all work together to make [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► everybody songs more useful series [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► should be exactly the same but isn't I i [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► really hope that this report is true [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► that there is siri p I being unveiled [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► soon because as a developer i would love [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► it and there are so many things that [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► like I would love for myself to access [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► to I would love for other developers [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► have access to it i would love to as a [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► user for other developers who have [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► access to it so i can do so much better [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► stuff with Siri i really hope this is [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► real [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► I recognize it's a very hard problem to [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► solve in a way that Apple be happy with [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► and it is not that surprising to me that [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► they don't have an API that they have [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► had an API yet [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► up to this point because it is a very [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► hard problem to [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► solving a way Apple would find tolerable [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► but it's time it's really time you know [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► as we see other other voice assistant [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► platforms having API is and adding api's [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► and coming soon with ap is it this is an [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► area where I just really hope Apple [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► keeps up i guess and you know as we [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► talked about last week I i really really [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► hope that they they bring competitive in [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► this area because it's exciting it could [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► be really cool [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► it's it's very useful a lot of times and [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► i hope i can participate in that is an [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► Apple user and an apple developer you [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► know thinking of the api's and thinking [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► about the the Amazon echo skills system [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► is it it's not like Apple hasn't done a [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► PS like that before i'm thinking of the [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► passbook API before they changed it to [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► Walter remember tomorrow's that was like [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► it was pretty easy for you know Airlines [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► or whatever integrate with passbook it [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► was just like it was very well be it was [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► very sort of make a rest assured [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► endpoint that sends and receives json in [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► this format and send some simple markup [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► and in the app look like these little [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► cards and you know I think it's probably [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► say maybe are for the wall thing I don't [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► think they changed that much that is [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► exactly the API that you can use for [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► skills in terms of integrating series [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► now with with iOS apps muchas with other [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► backend services and stuff like that to [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► be able to ask Siri questions and have [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► skills installed the let Syria ask [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► something other than wolframalpha to get [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► questions about but most importantly [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► gasp ESPN for more detailed sports [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► information or whatever like that type [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► of system that is an API is like an [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► apple has never made those api's or [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► they've done it it's rare but it's [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► possible and it's you know it's 60 [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► successful like passbook and all that [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► stuff had pretty wide adoption pretty [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► quickly because it's like we don't [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► really care that much we don't know how [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► much people are gonna use it but it's so [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► easy to do throw one web developer out [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► for a few weeks every airline did it it [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► was fine and continues to serve lurch [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► along right they could do that with Siri [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► easily maybe they just don't think that [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► sufficient maybe they have bigger plans [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► with this the new you know whatever [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► rumored much better serie the other [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► thing I was thinking of is that if there [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► during the whole mac OS renaming with a [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► lowercase M AC capital OS it's a good [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► time to perhaps think about and end of [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► series going to appear on the new ver [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► no the mac operating system good time to [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► think about rebranding / combining [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► spotlight in Syria which have been sort [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► of merging and dancing around each other [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► for years [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► I don't know who wins probably Syria [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► instead of spotlight but how can you [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► have two different things that are all [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► very similar the great should be [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► integrated you I wise branding and [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► conceptually it's kind of confusing to [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► have them like that so this would be a [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► good time to unify those brands too and [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► if you did that spotlight does have an [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► extension mechanism where you can write [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► plugins to let your out your files be [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► indexed on your Mac or whatever that's [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► another good time to add a serie a p.i [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► because once they're combined into one [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► thing when you can add an API for I [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► don't know like that again [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► Apple that's what WBC is all about it's [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► all about sessions where they have new [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► AP is that you can use to make your apps [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► cooler and that usually Apple wants you [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► to incorporate their they're practically [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► begging you to think of a reason think [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► of a way that you can incorporate this [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► new API I'll and all the sessions like [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► you may not think you need this API your [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► app let me show you some examples you [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► can add you know a rotating 3d cube in [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► the corner so you should use sink it [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► like like they're very gung-ho about we [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► have greater api's and you can [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► incorporate them because by [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► incorporating the new API is you add [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► value to a platform and show its unique [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► value proposition because i believe [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► these api user you know something that [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► the other platforms don't have things [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► that could be worth over there api's are [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► more complicated or whatever so yeah I [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► guess this is the time of year where did [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► everything seems possible WC all our [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► dreams will come true and everything we [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► thought of will be announced at the [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► keynote will have 15 sessions but [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► obviously they can't all fit in so we'll [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► see what gets dropped on the floor so [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► quick aside are you in favor of or [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► against os10 becoming mac OS [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► athletically I'm pretty against but in [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► terms of its time for a rebrand I'm for [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► but I don't like the lowercase them a [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► CEOs but i think it's just like the drop [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► the cats if you want to rename it after [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► so many versions to do a different thing [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► get rid of the 10 and the ex thing and [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► like no yeah sure we named it but I [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► really don't like the locus thing but [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► I'll live with it and I think it'd be [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► good i think it's time i'm ready yeah me [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► too i'm in favor you know the [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► capitalization of the mac aside you know [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► I don't really have a strong opinion [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► that you know i would think it'd be cool [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► to his cap [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► because it can be you know an old-school [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► reference and can't just fits better as [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► a reference if there's no space but but [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► yeah outside of their name [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► we have a new sponsor this week your [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► sponsored by eero ter o0 now 0 is a new [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► Wi-Fi router company for really high-end [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► Wi-Fi at home is like enterprise-grade [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► Wi-Fi to get home and it's super easy [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► setup in super modern so here's how this [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► works now almost everybody i know who's [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► ever had Wi-Fi in the house which is [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► almost everybody there's always like [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► areas of low reception or dead zones or [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► parts they're just really slow what you [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► really need is multiple access points [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► multiple Wi-Fi routers to cover the area [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► of your house it's just it's very hard [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► to have one super powerful one that you [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► put hopefully near the middle of your [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► house and have that have adequate [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► coverage so 10 is a system that makes it [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► super-easy to have multiple Wi-Fi [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► routers in your house that all talk to [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► each other and automatically configure [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► themselves to basically just plug them [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► in wherever you need them roughly one [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► per thousand square feet so most homes [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► in the u.s. you have either two or three [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► of them you designate one of them as [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► your router and you plug that one in [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► with a wire to your your modem or [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► internet connection every further into [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► ethernet the other to use plug those in [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► somewhere else in your house and they [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► communicate with each other on a [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► secondary mesh network and so it's [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► faster than white than typical Wi-Fi [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► range extender because it uses dual [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► radios you don't worry about the the [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► throughput being horrible and it's [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► automatically configured through they're [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► really nice app so it will basically [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► solves the home Wi-Fi coverage problem [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► in a way that it's I've never seen [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► anything that was as easy to set up as [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► this so you guys have them right [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► how do you think I'm really impressed i [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► wasn't sure if i would just throw them [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► on and then kind of trying out and put [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► them away but i think they have replaced [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► my very old airport extreme alright [TS]

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00:41:37 ◼   ► so thanks a lot to ero for sponsoring [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► our show [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► so iphone 7 another talk or maybe tick i [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► didn't i didn't see the first tell me [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► about this and talk hey christina warren [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► oracle at Mashable talking about the [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► iphone 7 we talked a lot about it [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► already dropping the headphone port and [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► we've seen the spy shots where it looks [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► a lot like the iphone 6 but the antenna [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► lines are a little bit moved around and [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► the big ones gonna have two cameras and [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► so on and so forth [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► this story was the sort of Medicine [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► worry about okay assuming all that's [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► pretty much the case [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► hey the iphone 7 doesn't really look [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► that different than the iphone 6 and hit [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► for a long time now the iphone has been [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► on the thing where they make a new case [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► design then they put faster innards in [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► it the negative cases I'm input faster [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► and resent it and they're calling the [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► tick-tock strategy unfortunately now [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► that Intel's let's talk strategy and I [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► have a solid grasp exactly what is the [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► second was the talk really there they [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► said all the iphone 7 will be as if it [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► was Tik Tok Tok when really it should be [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► talk tik tik it's confusing and anyway [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► the iphone 7 really be another tick the [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► stick is the shrink and shrink is the [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► boring one where it's the same thing but [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► they just put in a smaller size so and [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► the talk is the exciting one the new [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► architecture whatever anyway so dive on [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► sex new form factor look different than [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► its predecessor phone entirely down [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► success looks like the six faster [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► innards and the iphone 7 also kinda [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► looks like this isn't success with [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► faster innards and the the angle on the [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► story is that this is a new three-year [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► cycle for phones that they're not going [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► to do the every other year thing they're [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► slowing down a little bit possibly [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► permanently or possibly just because the [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► iphone 8 will be like the 10-year [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► anniversary of the iphone and the rumors [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► about that wonder like an edge-to-edge [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► glass and it's super thin glass all over [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► and it looks like it's really radical [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► and amazing and wouldn't it be great to [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► have a 10-year anniversary of the iphone [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► with just as amazing your design that's [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► something no one ever thought of so [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► maybe the iphone 7 year this year is [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► going to be a kind of boring year for a [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► change where yet can be faster and cool [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► and have different airlines and maybe [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► some different colors and all the great [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► stuff that we love the big moment have [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► two cameras duo cool things but next [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► year is the big one where the [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► it's going to look totally different [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► it's going to blow your mind is the [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► touch ID sensor will be integrated into [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► the screen and won't have any frame [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► around the glass and who knows what the [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► heck else it'll have and I'm not quite [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► sure how I feel about that because I'm i [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► have a6 and I skip the success and I was [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► thinking of getting a 747 looks the same [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► and if I know the ad is gonna be the [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► crazy 10-year anniversary one is gonna [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► be like my mac pro / gonna keep his eyes [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► a little harder for the first and only [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► i5 ever on how long you gonna keep using [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► this cuz you know my iphone 6 is fine [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► like it's it's still good i still like [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► the battery life is still decent eat [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► your custom to using crappy ipod touch [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► hardware John trust me it we we need to [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► teach you as a first-time iphone we need [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► to teach you how to be an iphone owner i [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► need to get whatever two years I need to [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► get whatever you ever want to be like [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► you crazy people you're a tech podcaster [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► just get one every year it's part of [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► your job [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► yeah I agree my wife has a success plus [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► like i see that it's faster and [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► everything is also giant but i don't [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► think i need a new phone every I'll [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► think about you do you know at least [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► every 2 based every to but then like it [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► then if i get these seven then when the [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► 10-year anniversary one comes out and [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► it's awesome i'll be even more resistant [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► to getting it i don't know i really have [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► to think about it i really have to see [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► what seven is like when you get the 6s [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► and 6s or that whatever without this [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► year don't think they're gonna go with [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► SS just off the top of my head [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► yeah let's hope not so so what when you [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► get the one that comes out this year and [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► then next year just one year later an [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► amazing new one comes out get that one [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► I don't know you're a tech podcast this [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► is what we do [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► yeah that's the thing like I always [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► wanted to go on the annual cycle and [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► could never justify to myself and then [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► it occurred to me we do make a little [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► bit of money off of this show [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► be it is sponsored for a reason and you [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► know what a thousand $1,500 for however [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► much damn iphone is these days where you [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► get your iphone what the hell which are [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► they know they're like they're like a [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► tinderbox now on his back during the [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► cost of the data plan [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► yeah totally that's what I yeah okay [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► yeah but anyway [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► no but the point is you know even a well [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► well equipped iphone you know it's what [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► is it like a tinderbox that is not yet [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► that yet so once a year i think i can [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► afford that and I do consider to be part [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► of that [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► job of doing this podcast and and I [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► don't think that's true of everyone like [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► Aaron I've offered to get her new phonon [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► off years for her and she's there I [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► don't think I really need it and that's [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► fine i don't think that's a bad thing [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► before the podcast i wanted it but I [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► never get it but John you make a few [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► dollars in the show it's time isn't this [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► why we do the podcast I'm i want my wife [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► has this year's phone and she has a5k [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► imac she's all swanky and the fancy new [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► hardware [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► I'm the the one with the on the other [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► hand i'd i have been by more games [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► recently so that's how I spoil myself I [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► mean it is the polite thing to do as as [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► the tech podcaster to make sure that [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► you're the other members of your family [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► are adequately set up with technology so [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► you you doing that part right but you [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► know you do have to you know think of [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► yourself as well hear you you don't buy [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► an iphone and sit on it for three years [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► with the next one might be good [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► well anyway but my particularly you [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► decide what do you guys think of having [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► like a and an off year where they just [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► kind of cruise with like another x-ray [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► vision while we wait for what we hope [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► will be an amazing anyone do you think [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► that's a good idea bad idea can lower [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► the price if they do that can I get they [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► get their margins up like why is this [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► something that will do i mean lets you [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► know think about you know first of all [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► as a huge disclaimer here we are you [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► know this is really talking about is an [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► external case design like every new [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► generation of iphone has been a [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► substantial upgrade from the one before [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► it so far [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► you know the the ones that have the S on [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► the end [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► look about the same or exactly the same [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► but they still have really significant [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► upgrades all of them have so what we're [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► talking about here if if they actually [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► do what this rumor might say they're [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► really just saying like you know we're [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► not going to change the case this time [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► you know what normally would have [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► changed his case this time this but you [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► know now we're going to give another [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► year and change the case next year that [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► matters a lot less really then [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► everything else all told I mean granted [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► sometimes the case changes come with [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► things like screen size changes which is [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► nice and important but you know [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► ultimately i think it's not that big of [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► a deal as long as they have the like a [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► good set of iphone gut as long as the [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► good phone and it's and it's a decent [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► upgrade from the success in input [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► certain ways like if you know that if [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► the rumors are true that like the [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► cameras getting a lot better especially [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► the plus-size one then that's a big deal [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► you know I'm so you know it all depends [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► on like what else the upgrade if it's a [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► compelling upgrade for that for the [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► privilege of us who upgrade every year [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► that I'll talk about how good it is or [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► how good isn't it will be fine if it's a [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► compelling upgrade for all the people [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► who still have two and three-year-old [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► phones to want to upgrade now instead of [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► waiting for the crazy former dog last [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► one next year whatever that's good for [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► them to I do think though given the [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► state of iphone sales at being you know [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► the the growth is slowing and they're [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► under all the scrutiny now I do think [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► the timing of this is not good [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► you know it's obviously this was [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► probably decided before its quarterly [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► results came in but it certainly the [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► timing of an appearance of them slowing [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► down or not trying as hard whether or [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► not they actually are slowing down and [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► no matter how hard they are trying it [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► will appear as though they're like [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► slacking off if they do this again so [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► I'm I'm totally up for it I I don't [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► really care for the six design that much [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► but it's fine it's good enough i care [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► more about the way the phone works and [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► the internals so I'll be okay [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► you know most of us will be ok people [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► who buy the phones without doing a whole [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► lot of research will be ok but i think [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► in the public eye and for a lot of the [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► for a lot of the press I think it will [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► not be well received because people will [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► think apple is kind of phoning it in [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► no pun intended well but there are [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► potential upside so i could think of a [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► couple of sides one potentially the [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► battery life could be better because if [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► they're not making it thinner like [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► that's the rumor that not only will look [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► the same but that essentially like the [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► cases will still fit and everything like [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► or at the very least it won't be any [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► thinner they always go down in power and [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► find ways to eke out a little more power [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► from you know the components if they [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► keep the same amount of battery battery [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► life should be better there right [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► it will also presumably be cheaper for [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► them to make because they won't have to [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► have the new tooling and everything and [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► then build those costs into the line of [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► phones so they could either lower the [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► price for consumers will make them sell [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► more or they get higher margins on the [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► ones they do sell so potentially even [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► though it could be boring aesthetically [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► and they could be stories written about [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► how like you said they're not really [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► trying or whatever when it comes time to [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► report results depending on which one of [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► those levers HR to pull they could have [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► increase customer satisfactory life is [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► better they get a higher asp because [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► it's cheaper for them to make them or [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► they could have more sales because they [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► could actually sell it for a lower price [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► or at least like adjust the price is [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► like the top and then we'll still be the [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► same price that would be a bad signal to [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► send but they could mess with the prices [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► and by the way luckily it seems like I'm [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► just pulling I'm just believing what I [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► want to play but anyway they were [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► stories about the low-end model still [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► being 16 gigs and then they were [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► follow-up story said no no don't worry [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► the bottom my 32 if they make the bottom [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► and 32 that will also increase customers [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► at probably won't increase the cost of [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► goods any because people probably even [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► sell them the stupid 16 gig chips [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► anymore because it's insane [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► so financially speaking like in terms of [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► what results they report and how many of [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► these things they sell everything and a [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► another expedition could actually be [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► really good for apple and really good [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► for consumers especially if they [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► actually do s stuff to it so the success [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► they tried to make less slippery like [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► the outside is a little bit less [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► slippery right and you know obviously [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► we're all the components and if there [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► are any sort of manufacturing problems [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► with like it was a little bit bending in [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► the 60 they made the success stiffer if [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► they keep doing that stuff like this is [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► yet another s where it's like it's you [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► know it's even less slippery and it's [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► even stiffer and we've made it lighter [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► and it gets better battery life and of [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► course the into the components are all [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► you know revised and faster and all that [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► other good stuff [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► this could really be like they've never [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► had three shots at the same phone [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► essentially before this could really be [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► sort of a you know a third attempt at [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► building a iphone 6 shaped phone where [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► they've learned so much from the past [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► two years of doing that this will really [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► be a great phone to buy but when you [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► look at it from the outside it will be [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► boring and then whatever the 10-year [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► anniversary phone is however you know [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► very radical that is that in theory [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► could have a bunch of weird problems but [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► it will sell like hotcakes because it'll [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► be sexy and new and everything so I I [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► like breaking up cycles like that's any [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► type of cycle you kind of get into it [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► starts to feel like you're in here into [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► a rut for a while I think there are a [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► lot of potential upside to this but if [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► you're going for like glam and trying to [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► allow people thinking of like showing us [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► on the stage it traditionally showing [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► the new iphone has been especially when [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► it's like you know even year whatever i [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► do like when it went [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► we're expecting that the big redesign [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► has been like whoo ha i can't imagine [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► how much going over the iphone 7 except [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► for maybe the dual camera thing on the [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► plus stuff I guess what has saved you [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► and I for the 10-year anniversary and [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► whatever that's gonna look like who you [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► know I agree on uh I agree mostly with [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► Marco that I think that the fallout from [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► the media will be ugly but not just the [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► media the public you know like Apple [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► gets a lot of crap from regular people [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► from the cosmic room whenever they don't [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► change the outside design its it is not [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► just like a couple articles from from [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► like tech media trolls it's it's [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► actually people care about this now [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► that's a good point and a lot of people [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► say oh I'm holding on you know I don't [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► want to bother with an ass i want the [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► new case and they saw him holding on for [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► the seven or what have you [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► I do think I don't know if I'd go so far [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► as to say it's a good idea but I i don't [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► i'm not frustrated by it and I in you [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► know like i was saying a few minutes ago [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► I like that my macbook pros over the [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► last few years have been basically the [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► same they've got a little bit thinner [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► and a little bit lighter but the battery [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► life has kept about the same they've [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► gotten faster they've gotten better [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► they've gotten retina screens I it so [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► it's a formula that works and i'm the [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► author of a problem with just iterating [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► on a formula that works i think that [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► there perhaps better choices of taste [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► design than the six but I don't dislike [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► it and if the formula works I don't have [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► a problem with them sticking with it but [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► the fallout from the press and to [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► Marco's point a second ago from regular [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► people is just going to be intolerable [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► and there will be a part of me that will [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► be like oh that's sad that we're not [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► getting a new one this year but in the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► grand scheme of things I wouldn't be [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► upset about it so I i don't know we'll [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► see it it would be a very fascinating it [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► would be fascinating to see the reaction [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► if they do have a six SS gonna call the [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► headphone no certainly not [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► but whatever it can cause 6s plus area [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► use that name [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► what they called the seven even if it [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► looks the same i would guess so it's [TS]