The Accidental Tech Podcast

1: iPhone Plus


00:00:00   you know the number you put it like a five accident and the Apple TV thing how [TS]

00:00:05   many I'm an idiot for that it's going into the retina iPad Mini of course [TS]

00:00:09   delivery time actually I was thinking of going into the red Knight had many of [TS]

00:00:14   course it wasn't an ensuing if I was going to truck and Apple TV yet well he [TS]

00:00:20   said that he said he believes will be at ice rink which makes sense as the full [TS]

00:00:24   husband would be too much heat for that probably [TS]

00:00:26   and of course if you're gonna have a dye shrink a 50 X that's going to be a [TS]

00:00:31   really inexpensive way to to read notify the mini with while still maintaining [TS]

00:00:36   good separation 24 evil about a high-priced one that the faster chip and [TS]

00:00:41   you know keep those margins will be healthier and many of the reason I [TS]

00:00:44   totally believe the Apple TV is because there is to send yourself they're gonna [TS]

00:00:47   put the ones they were to the GPU cores burned out you know right because you [TS]

00:00:52   got for GPU cores in there and I got you covered a lot of parts for one of those [TS]

00:00:56   for GPRS is no good right to the Apple TV because it does not need more like [TS]

00:01:00   they maybe they intentionally burn out to even if one fails they will [TS]

00:01:03   intentionally you know as the seat or no one is in a fight with one core [TS]

00:01:07   burned-out right and my crappy GPU so I can put in a fight that scenario right [TS]

00:01:11   now we've got four corners if any one of them is bad we're gonna intentionally [TS]

00:01:15   burned out two of them to save power and and you know i mean like because he [TS]

00:01:18   likes 1080p like the max resolution you do not need for chorus so i'm used I'm [TS]

00:01:25   upset that a tener five acts in all likelihood I'm upset because the effects [TS]

00:01:30   of shitty CPU for iPad programming because it you know it's four times [TS]

00:01:35   graphics power but the same CPU power and and so CPU bound traffic operations [TS]

00:01:42   become four times lower than an iPad 2 and and that that's really pleased I [TS]

00:01:48   don't know like that the Apple TV I totally believe that it's going to be a [TS]

00:01:52   five-axis of stuff we actually have to do this right now but if a venir at the [TS]

00:01:56   retina many many I still think it's going to be in a sec yeah I hope so but [TS]

00:02:01   if that's the case then why besides I guess having a bunch of extra been doubt [TS]

00:02:06   if I max's but then why would they put the effects of the Apple TV I think [TS]

00:02:11   that's what it is I think it's like they've been [TS]

00:02:13   they made the iPad 3 for a long time right now and I really like seven months [TS]

00:02:17   I know they sold a lot of them and how many Apple TVs they sell in the seven [TS]

00:02:22   months versus how many iPad 3 is this you know the mini was even around like [TS]

00:02:25   the iPad 3 I guess at that point to yes america's such a large home I think it's [TS]

00:02:30   because that ship such a big monster that they had to have a lot of rejects [TS]

00:02:34   and they're looking for something to do with those rejects because otherwise [TS]

00:02:37   what do you do you throw away right you know it's basically like free money and [TS]

00:02:41   put you do you put it in your your crappy low selling little TV thing [TS]

00:02:46   you've got you've got the land around the probably tell them don't throw those [TS]

00:02:49   out just keep on the side will think of something that's if you believe that but [TS]

00:02:56   it seemed like I looked at is investigated where can i buy it so yeah [TS]

00:02:59   me and I don't think he would post something that confidently without [TS]

00:03:03   having having good stuff to back it up so I i believe it too and that's why I [TS]

00:03:07   figure like the only two options are the only two US relations are using a built [TS]

00:03:11   in chips or upcoming right now I've had many using that particular died sharing [TS]

00:03:17   of that particular chip but I really don't want that to be true that chip so [TS]

00:03:21   much depends on us for their think there are already many I receive some around [TS]

00:03:27   him and he would not arrive for like you guys think I like next Thanksgiving [TS]

00:03:31   season and extracts family but but this could be some crazy things these days [TS]

00:03:37   128 gigabytes how so weird like white now you know there's lots of theories [TS]

00:03:43   like I I like my favorite one was you know they just got off this there were [TS]

00:03:49   people yell to them about their margins you like fun you wanna Stephan Martin is [TS]

00:03:52   due up here was throwing an even higher just gotta be months ago was going to [TS]

00:04:00   say look we can do this we can make this thing if we make this thing we're going [TS]

00:04:03   to sell a non-zero number of them and the margins are gonna be awesome and [TS]

00:04:07   they probably have some demand for some people who wanted to like you know what [TS]

00:04:10   fine slap in 28 gigs sell it for rickles spent like what chance is pretty soon [TS]

00:04:16   they're gonna have to line shift where they do like okay six teams are gone [TS]

00:04:20   rights 32 64 128 all for the same price points you know like that's gonna happen [TS]

00:04:25   to me [TS]

00:04:26   this is their one chance to sell hundred twenty eight gigs with a ridiculous [TS]

00:04:30   markup and you know it doesn't bring Martin is downright the Mini is dragging [TS]

00:04:36   their iPad margins downs like how can we pull the iPad Martin's back up when you [TS]

00:04:40   put a higher end model in there well that's weird what if what if this [TS]

00:04:45   actually it like you know the same way to have had four came out only like [TS]

00:04:49   seven months after the three what if they really are moving to a more like [TS]

00:04:53   twice a year [TS]

00:04:53   update schedule because the iPhone and iPad are their most important products [TS]

00:04:56   and it and they often get dinged in comparisons and the press and reviews [TS]

00:05:02   and everything that goes there all because they therefore there you know [TS]

00:05:05   shipping an eleven-month-old model again somebody's brand new thing that the [TS]

00:05:09   brand new corner brand new radio and stuff like that you know what if they [TS]

00:05:13   were found that there's like they're always getting things in comparison to [TS]

00:05:17   whatever the hell the latest Android phone is but any individual Android [TS]

00:05:21   phone makers want to be on the market for some period of time because you just [TS]

00:05:25   don't get the economies of scale as you sell it for a couple of months at least [TS]

00:05:28   right so like you know it's going to strike a balance between not be they [TS]

00:05:32   just want their just one maker they're never gonna be except for like that when [TS]

00:05:35   they first introduced the phone then they can be a little bit had everybody [TS]

00:05:38   else but me they just have to be ok with three months six months of just being a [TS]

00:05:42   little bit behind because during that time there like ranking on you know so I [TS]

00:05:47   i totally by trying to go to an eight month or six months I cooler twenty [TS]

00:05:51   years I especially if they stick with you like 44 s 55 s cadence where you [TS]

00:05:55   just you know upgrade the guts and also especially since like we went you know [TS]

00:06:00   and 3G LTE in a pretty quick sequence relatively speaking there's nothing [TS]

00:06:08   surpassing LTE except maybe you know 802 11 AC that's going to have to be to go [TS]

00:06:13   in there and screw the radio so they'll be able to generate on the other parts [TS]

00:06:16   with a great you know let's relax a little bit we have like a world phone [TS]

00:06:19   that does not do you know each other things one or two more rapid and you [TS]

00:06:23   know it's not a total people where we go from 3G to LTE and how to support all [TS]

00:06:27   the screen is done they're probably not going to go with a more dense fog rain [TS]

00:06:34   they could go bigger maybe you know that's honestly I think they have to go [TS]

00:06:39   bigger just to keep competitive in the market like I think I don't think they [TS]

00:06:43   have to make their only model bigger but I think they have to have a bigger model [TS]

00:06:47   because even though we all make fun of these fabulous things they're really [TS]

00:06:50   popular people love them I don't get it to be a phablet it just needs to be like [TS]

00:06:54   right now it's a skinny four inches I think they need to have a more [TS]

00:07:00   reasonable by to portion if I think I booked you for those 800 by 600 all [TS]

00:07:09   people love that everything was so big you could actually see things you can [TS]

00:07:13   use your big fat 0 person finger in it like they just gonna make a 4.5 inch you [TS]

00:07:17   know iPhone same read everything on the screen will be dead but this group I'll [TS]

00:07:22   be cheaper because like the density will be lower so even though the screen is [TS]

00:07:25   bigger pie apple less money to make you could put an even bigger battery and [TS]

00:07:29   there's nothing like last forever and you get all these awesome advantages [TS]

00:07:32   actually so so you know how the LCD cutting theory could have predicted the [TS]

00:07:38   mini what if you do the math backwards what if you cut the retina full-size [TS]

00:07:42   iPad screen to iPhone resolution how big is that so many ways by saying all right [TS]

00:07:55   if you just take the 3G s do it backwards from the from the full sized [TS]

00:08:01   retina iPad format physical size are from that dpi rather how big what an [TS]

00:08:06   iPhone 5 resolution screen be at that dpi something you need to I don't think [TS]

00:08:11   you do that I think they just need to decide how much bigger than four inches [TS]

00:08:14   you want it just make the screen that they like I don't you know the screen [TS]

00:08:17   cutting theory the thing about the screen game series even if you a hundred [TS]

00:08:20   percent by that that's how the technology of manufacturing LCDs works I [TS]

00:08:24   think Apple changes their screen supplier like every single device [TS]

00:08:27   because they're always chasing the next guy with the next best deal is going to [TS]

00:08:30   offer them the better screen for less money like you know that LG sharp [TS]

00:08:35   samples but they also always have volume problems they always are like shorts are [TS]

00:08:40   short on screen that they always need more screens so what we gonna do like [TS]

00:08:44   they have they have [TS]

00:08:45   multiple suppliers but once you have multiple supply guy basically but I [TS]

00:08:48   think like a couple of a couple of size and if that if that cutting theory is [TS]

00:08:52   correct then you could gross you can dramatically increase your yields and [TS]

00:08:56   simplify everything we only have been like two DTI is that you buy screens but [TS]

00:08:59   only if you're sticking with someone like only if the guy who was making new [TS]

00:09:03   year are your retina iPad screens is also the same guy you're gonna get to [TS]

00:09:06   make your iPhone plus sized screens and I think when the iPhone + goes out they [TS]

00:09:11   just rebuild the entire thing and they like they give no particular advantage [TS]

00:09:15   of the guy who was making the screens of the same dpi for some device especially [TS]

00:09:19   as far distances the iPad 3 like a good just to rebuild every time to best [TS]

00:09:24   manufacturers with special with the exhaust tough line so you know whoever [TS]

00:09:31   is offering that like it if that guy who's doing the iPad 3 screen whether a [TS]

00:09:35   sharper whatever they can offer the exact thing that I can you describe it [TS]

00:09:39   all the time I just set the suppliers against killing dogs and just wait to [TS]

00:09:43   see who comes you know survive in like that that's the TSM see their ATM [TS]

00:09:48   whenever they like those I know I read like they're they're obviously so [TS]

00:09:56   incredibly hungry but just that followed video card manufacturing in the ATI [TS]

00:10:01   Nvidia wars back in those days they both manufacturers [TS]

00:10:06   SMC and it was sometimes good and sometimes disastrous I don't doubt that [TS]

00:10:10   they're hungry I do worry that they're going to you know make a deal that Apple [TS]

00:10:16   will accept exists an awesome deal on then just not be able to deliver all [TS]

00:10:19   gonna be sad so I have two questions firstly if you take a iPhone plus that [TS]

00:10:27   is not written by standard iPhone standards because if it's late and I'm [TS]

00:10:32   tired but I the DPI the iPad is considerably less than the DPI of the [TS]

00:10:36   iPhone [TS]

00:10:37   well to 64 and the other one is like it's like three twelve-hour or something [TS]

00:10:44   like that [TS]

00:10:45   considerable so anyway so if they make an iPhone plus with the with the 264 dpi [TS]

00:10:51   don't you think they'll get raked over the coals for those pictures like my [TS]

00:10:59   parents could not too different channel iPad 2 and three when I showed the right [TS]

00:11:03   in the store in front of them I said there's little things I made them get a [TS]

00:11:06   three anyway but they literally cannot tell the difference in like I am [TS]

00:11:11   tendering brought up some texts and held in turn their faces ACLU like oh yeah [TS]

00:11:15   just get the 300 people thought I'm telling you that the screen they needed [TS]

00:11:22   to be bigger needs a bigger so they don't drop it so it's like just bigger [TS]

00:11:26   and heavier bigger pictures and bigger place their fat fingers the touch they [TS]

00:11:30   love it was gonna be will really give a shit either way you know if they do get [TS]

00:11:36   raked over the coals do they really care [TS]

00:11:37   people will not complain like it's it will not be you know so I was not real [TS]

00:11:43   red its fine like it you know look at all the other phones that are a [TS]

00:11:45   resolution to special I can see the pixels or can you not see them and 264 a [TS]

00:11:49   stepping stone and especially like it if the phone itself as a bigger you're not [TS]

00:11:56   gonna hold as close to your face so the old people like they don't like to have [TS]

00:12:01   the thing you know right they want to hold it away like people who books away [TS]

00:12:04   so they can read it [TS]

00:12:06   they're reading glasses they need to get their way but you get a iphone 5 at [TS]

00:12:09   arm's length and suddenly you can't read the title honestly I might consider [TS]

00:12:12   getting one of the bigger ones that that was the option like it was otherwise [TS]

00:12:15   just as good just a little bit bigger I managed to go this whole Skype session [TS]

00:12:20   without making a short joke even when you talk about how they were trying [TS]

00:12:22   and now you tell me you want to get the five in Jaipur no Marco you have to get [TS]

00:12:26   the small one at the correct size for you it's properly prepare your family [TS]

00:12:32   your family all smaller suggest you yeah they're they're also sometimes saying [TS]

00:12:37   you're a hobbit derived people you can stick with you cannot get your forbidden [TS]

00:12:40   from getting the giant iPhone too big for you [TS]

00:12:44   something extremely nerdy I have I just made in Photoshop a quick image mock-up [TS]

00:12:49   putting the right size rectangle email to myself putting on my iPad it is about [TS]

00:12:57   four point eight inches diagonally maybe a little big I would say four point like [TS]

00:13:05   65 is because I can see them going for the iPad plus I don't know you're [TS]

00:13:09   holding in front of your printed it out can you can you help that I emailed the [TS]

00:13:15   image to my iPad so I could look at it honestly isn't that much bigger like [TS]

00:13:21   it's not help the Lumia 920 like the big monster Windows Phones know only that [TS]

00:13:29   very first one that was not as it is not a monster 27 I have helped the big [TS]

00:13:33   monster phone and there's something to be said for like to feel like you could [TS]

00:13:38   you could fend off a mugger with this like it's it's a little bit heavier like [TS]

00:13:43   but it's just it just it feels your hand more than a dozen I think some people [TS]

00:13:48   just like that I i wouldn't like I can imagine that in a pocket like the small [TS]

00:13:54   form factor but I think some people like the better ones and it definitely [TS]

00:13:57   definitely has a different feel like if you have it there on your screen cut out [TS]

00:14:02   a piece of paper like me you know make your own little papercraft iPhone plus a [TS]

00:14:07   blog post but you holding it in there you go [TS]

00:14:09   but again he can't be the one holding it cuz he's Hobbit sized yeah well [TS]

00:14:13   she should actually talk like that I'm adorable the fan to fan movie fans so [TS]

00:14:28   you use of online apparently I click on the links on your wife posted a picture [TS]

00:14:33   of a baby looking at a fan I look at that [TS]