The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► so I received my first Kickstarter back to being in the mail today and I want to [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► love it but it's quasi d away so I got the Nifty mini drive did you guys [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► remember those from like eight months ago it was it like the USB drivers that [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► fits in the sd-card slot year basically so wanted the premise is it fits in the [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► sd-card slot of of a Mac and they've designed in machined in such a way that [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► you stick this into the slot and sticker think it's a microSD card into the 15 [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► minute drive and then you put the mini drive in the sd-card slot for your Mac [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► and then it sits flush as opposed to the way full-size IC cards typically sit in [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► so you've basically added another drive to your Mac which I don't know why I [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► wanted to do this other than it seemed cool and now that I've gotten it it it [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► it looks great [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► it it is looks to be the same aluminum that that's the Mac is made up out and [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► get a colorado got it plain aluminum and I really like the look of it but [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► apparently some tolerance or something was a little bit off in some of the [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► first batches and so without putting scotch or sellotape around it the drive [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► was read only I had to put scotch tape around it because St cards have a [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► physical switch to make them read only and yeah so apparently without scotch [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► tape around it it was it didn't tripper did trip whichever direction the switch [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► that made the that made the west and treated as readonly so now I have scotch [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► tape around it but other than that it's actually really cool just let me just [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► clarify so you took something from somebody who's never made anything [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► before that's made to sit flush inside of a delicate tiny slot in your [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► expensive computer then added taped to it and put it in the delegates in your [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► computer you are exactly right that clearly nothing bad will happen at this [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► video and they're taking like the little SanDisk label using it is a shame inside [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► the thing [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► to did you see that you did take a little cards inside and then they shut [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► the little piece of paper or plastic like underneath it to try to ship it to [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► shifted around us on the thing is that where you put the tape no I just put the [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► tape around the outside of the Kickstarter but here to see the kind of [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► product where the better idea would be to wait until this thing got popular [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► wait till somebody else with manufacturing experience rips it off and [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► just makes like a seven dollar limit on Amazon and just buy that why would you [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► buy this although like this my understanding because it just seemed [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► cool how I have no biggest bike just capacity you can you can have it here I [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► have a 64 gig microSD card and absence not vertebra slow wasn't terrible I mean [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► I put like five gigs top gear on and it took like 10 minutes or something like [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► that I mean it was not fast without question but it was not arrested card [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► slot like the whole point of it you assume I use a camera other than our [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► phones I mean I have this new small camera and it it has two cards but never [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► take him out because it charges over USB which is awesome features the camera and [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► so I just plugged into a USB one of our transfer so I can kind of top off the [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► charge also want cameras the ridiculous one the Sony rx1 i'm looking charged [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► that charges over USB not only does that I have I have a Sony camcorder that we [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► got when the baby was born the camcorder charger USB its awesome blog about this [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► it's one of the best features just feel like it's one of those little tiny [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► conveniences that's just awesome [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► changes on Eric's one has ever move about and and I have have I got a second [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► battery life isn't that great for doing a whole bunch of viewing on the screen [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► like you can only shoot like couple hundred pictures before the battery goes [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► and five but we only ever hit the battery being dead during shooting once [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► like to be don't shoot that many at once but it's a fantastic camera for so in so [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► many ways I was excited about the camera choice on it cost my car so it just [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► costs as much as a regular camp yet the costs like bill to grant so it's [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► what's what's crazy about this camera is that it is actually worth it [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► like compared to the market it is worth that price I totally see why Sony is [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► charging that however yeah but however even though it is competitive with with [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► equals it is still you still feel like you shouldn't be paying this much for a [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► camera the size even though it's so great because it is that size and it is [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► like it's it's so good that the image quality you get from both that [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► ridiculously good sensor and the really really good optic in front of it [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► the crawl you get of it like it's is better in many ways than my 5d mark two [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► camera cameras are pissing me off still television for a long time because like [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► look weak you know I like to mirrorless ok finally make its friggin progress we [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► can stop with the flat mirrors and other stuff that was has its origins in [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► optical things that are no longer a factor because we all have joined [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► screens in the back of you stop that will be you know like how long it should [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► be progressing like Moore's Law I wanted gigantic full-frame sensor in a tiny [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► little camera the centers on like one inch square foot than a small camera [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► roads are still two grand I mean c'mon c'mon faster faster because you realize [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► like this is one of those things where we should be there like in five or 10 [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► years the amazing Canon 5d I should be able to get that in a little thing seems [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► like that should be the progression that maybe not a phone but tiny little thing [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► handheld camera but it's not gonna get a small camera sensor the size of you know [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► one-eighth of a postage stamps the screen like no big sensor in there is [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► still two grand I guess it just that's how much it is 2800 but like I mean I [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► think the PR schwann's biggest flaw biggest downside it's not really a flaw [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► I guess it's it's more of a downside of of of the practicalities design is that [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► the lens sticks out pretty far just because I think it's just because if you [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► want an F 2.0 thirty five-millimeter lands that can project enough of an [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► image circle to cover a full-frame sensor it needs to be a certain size [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► accused can [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► like I don't think they could have made it that much smaller and so the result [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► is that the camera is is fairly deep so you can't put it in a pocket of anything [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► except like a big loose jacket pocket like one of those pancake lens is now [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► gives you like the weird you know fisheye appearance type thing like that [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► you can't single part of it is like is the intractable part because lucky if [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► your precision grinding glass and aligning the things with each other in [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► like the nature of optics and the nature of glass such that that is not I don't [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► expect that to get cheap according to mars law but I do keep hoping the sensor [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► part of it should progress along the typical technology [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► you know it's like so I'm ok with like zoom lens is always being super [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► expensive like that they dare not subject to Moore's law those things for [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► the sensors I felt like the light light gathering ability at the very least I [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► wanna see more progress than I have seen so even though like my my Canon half my [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► little mini hammer is amazing compared to like my first digital camera not [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► amazing enough and so like the mirrorless movement I thought we were [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► gonna move towards so you don't want to join SLR and you don't need this type [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► thing but in these little tiny cameras are going to be much bigger sensors [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► give you reasonable ends and try to cut down the price but it seems like the rx1 [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► as the directions like okay for people who already have lots of money and every [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► russian photographer speaking make them not have to carry such a big giant [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► monster thing but it's gonna cost in order 2800 boxes and it isn't as [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► portable I wanted to be but I love using it I just absolutely love using it and [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► like it has it has made my entire setup of Canon glass seem obsolete now even [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► though the glasses grade like this in this now feels like the new form factor [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► of cameras like I really don't see myself buying another SLR like I i dont [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► I probably will probably go back on this like in three years and then but as the [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► days of the cars are numbered years it's like people are people gonna be talking [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► about that sound when I was a boy a picture we loved it [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► I'm actually just excited I I don't know anything about photography in I wish I [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► did but I've never had the time nor the money to children nor the children but I [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► I'm actually kinda happy to see Sony doing well again I think John you talked [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► about this at length in the past but when I when I was a kid Sony was deeper [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► and and and then got how the mighty fell and to stay here you [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► espousing this camera so with such enthusiasm it's it's it's good to hear [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► that Sony's doing what happened Sony brought in Alta and and really became [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► extremely serious about camera stuff like I dunno 568 years ago something [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► like that and they've been slowly progressing and and they got into the [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► SLR business fairly recently with the IAEA ninety was the first one whatever [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► the first one was taken to the library and what's happening now for a while [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► cannon was was very clearly the leader in sensor technology and and for a while [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► I think even even the lenses and are still doing very well and lenses very [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► close with Nikon but still doing very very well and but the Canon sensors have [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► kind of slowed down in progress recently and everyone else has caught up very [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► closely and in many ways but by almost all measurements the new Sony centers [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► are better than cancers and used to be an embarrassment in the camera just [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► remember little cameras like artist canvas Canon Nikon and Sony makes hammer [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► to it is ignore them because it is a crap like they don't know what they're [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► doing with these digital cameras right and taking them a while to turn that [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► around to be taken seriously as a player like every time they be like some [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► amazing new Sony camera have some aspect of it was amazing but all the rest of [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► the crap and you look at the pictures taken with the new just be a mess even [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► if it was just image processing a battery life for some weird ergonomic [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► aspect was screwed up because they want to make sleek but it seems like they're [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► finally figuring it out at long last [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► oh yes so now that they're caring for their strengths that they had an [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► electronic stuff and you know they figured out all the other stuff that you [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► know kinda makes you wished about medicare because even all these cameras [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► like now that now the whole back of them is the screen [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► and a lot of it is the UI and this camera makers have no idea [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► user interface USB terrible I really you know they can get some help there is a [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► good thing that saving cameras though as I think like our debt boards there will [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► always be a place especially in professional campers for knobs and [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► buttons because he knew them that you can get them without looking and it's [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► much easier using a touch screen and doesn't mean you don't also expose out [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► and touch screen but the camera makers who are good at it [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► the shutter button the knobs dials the twisty things that will that still not [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► become obsolete won't be like oh well used to be good to those things but now [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► you don't need them and all of them are now you'll always want them on a camera [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► and that's why Apple should make one removable battery and it was being [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► everything on the screen to be a pain in the ass to you might be okay for casual [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► camera we're just talking about you know like you know people who are indifferent [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► that's the problem that's why people love the iPhone that's all they want big [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► screen that you point at something and you say what I'm sorry now make picture [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► of the problem is casual cameras is evaporating and it's you know the answer [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► the phone market I guess you could say Apple has entered the market with the [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► iPhone and that's that's that's that's what they're doing the camera market the [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► same with entered the video game platform market kind of accidentally and [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► then and once they realized they were doing it they really took off I don't [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► know how well as I we use selling I'm not saying that there there in their own [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► market making their own things like that there will never be in the gaming market [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► until they decide they want to make machine focused on campus in there [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► they're not gonna do that because the spot where they did well I think they [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► have made a machine made machine only buttons on it but it's the same thing [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► it's like it's like China making you know car dashboard video steering wheel [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► steer by dragging your finger on the screen [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► hearing on the screen you drag that was you know they're they're not going to do [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► that they're never going to put something on an iPhone that owns it up [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► just for the purposes of games of the type of games that you can put on [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► entirely touchscreen device with really no buttons to speak of the [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► gaming is so incredibly limited well they're they're they're they're doing a [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► typical disruption move of not attacking head-on into that market they're they're [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► kind of running this parallel thing on the side that is taking a lot of that [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► market away without doing that the same thing as they tried to the same thing [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► they would think they're going for the people who were never gonna buy those [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► crazy game machines right and that's why they're selling a million copies in [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► making times more money but they're not going after the people who want to play [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► games that can be played on a touch screen is not interested like if Apple's [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► interested in taking the gaming market they would make something that can play [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► games that can be played in touch screen but they're not interested in gaining [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► market they'll just take what they can get from what they are interested in but [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► they're making more money than everyone else because it turned out this way more [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► people who don't care about games the screen goes basically touchscreen games [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► alone there too complicated for most people it's like touching him but it [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► simply you like it you just pull back a little birdie let him go well they've [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► they provided to Julie's made an alternative like before if you want to [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► play a game you had you know you've always had the consoles in the high-end [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► PCs doing these kind of you know he's a rated games you make your big budget [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► complex things these awesome graphics and everything and you always had the [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► market for casual games you know in the old days casual game for those the CD [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► roms at Walmart full of 10,000 solitaire variants now and then for a while they [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► were like flash games on the web and there's still some of that but but now [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► you're seeing this massive boom I would like for six months they were on [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► Facebook and now he says he has massive [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► Microsoft on the casual game market in the nineties because the cattle market [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► was dominated by a minesweeper and solitaire the two most popular played [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► games by humans and the entire history of the universe because everyone had a [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► PC and a desk in the nineties and all they did was play minesweeper and [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► solitaire too bad that in charge money for don't forget freecell yeah that's [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► true the ninth at market but like that everyone has cell phones now I never [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► played against them but Apple's [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► market and imagine of the iPhone just came with three games and well we play [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► those three games but the difference is the difference now is that they have [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► this massive game library on these casual devices casual gaming has never [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► been better than it is today [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► it so and it gets better all the time and that more than Apple really owns [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► quite a big portion of of casual gaming and that's why they're attacking [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► beginning because casual gaming in general is now way bigger way easier and [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► way more rich than it was before and content availability and the rents are [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► now like whereas before I think a lot of people would get tired of this casual [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► games and go buy an xbox if they want to play games at night now you're seeing a [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► lot more people who are sticking with the role of casual games instead of [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► buying game console but a bit of Apple's just not willing to make it possible to [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► play games that are played on touchscreen they're never gonna they're [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► never gonna pull that markets like it's like someone who's trying to say I'm [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► gonna make things like a movie but it's a little tiny boxes in your home and we [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► market bargain habit and Mike saying okay well are you ever gonna do a thing [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► where the picture is the size of the side of going no no it's always going to [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► be small in the home like it can't really be taller than one story because [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► people's feelings like eight feet high so we're really not going out there will [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► always be a market for movies because the screen is way bigger and it's a [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► different experience and it is not as ridiculous in terms of square square [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► footage of whatever but there's just certain types of games that people like [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► to play but you can't play with touchscreen controls and of Apple's [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► never never never never gonna go after them there's always going to like [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► they're saying we don't we don't want that you can do something else and it [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► just so happens of the games that you can play with touchscreen controls are [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► like the traditional genres that way deeper than most people can't play at [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► all but there is proven market for a market for 43 console competitors [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► probably not so say goodbye to someone right you know but I still think that if [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► Apple refuses to go to its not like there's a future where all gaming is [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► such that just definitely not just like there's no future for movie theaters are [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► totally gone but I think it's very easy to see that [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► game consoles and are getting really marginalized just like movie theaters I [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► mean it's it's it's consolidation like this probably not enough of a market for [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► all the players that are there to be doing what they're doing so there's [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► going to be some sort of consolidation that goes on there but I like the fact [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► that Apple is so hands off of the games like they're not even its not even to [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► the point where I am a huge stocks in Apple Evangelos about this but like so [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► that they're competing with Android for the casual game dollar like so you want [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► to make you know Sally spa type game the console makers in that market is so much [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► more than you know Sony Microsoft Nintendo Sega like all those people back [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► in the day would go to the popular third-party developers like EA or [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► whatever and court them and say you should really make your next great Sally [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► spa game for our platform here's why unlike and cater to them and just like [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► go after them because they're competing for the content creation talent is Apple [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► going out and trying to get da to make headway against them and not friend [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► right now because there's like games for us we know we're the only people have [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► paying customers who got it in the bag like the market has matured to the point [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► where it's even to the level where the console market was in the eighties where [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► I don't believe Apple is believes in games like they like the fact the games [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► are on their platform but they're not going to do anything to those people [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► began to talk I will put a good GPU for you and like buttons and a joystick [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► haven't officially supported blue like even just Bluetooth it's like something [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► anything throw us a bone let us have a controlled like now we'd rather not you [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► would rather you not my cup are thing with any sort of traditional today and [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► just make you can touch screen really like your game should conform to our [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► interfaces a vision for the phone or whatever and the like [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► that's where the money is making these games for $1 each or whatever I just [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► don't feel like Apple believes in understands or is interested in gaming [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► you know I think you're right about that for the most part but do you honestly [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► think that a game released for iOS would sell very well if it costs like more [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► than $1 and required a third are Joystiq [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► well that's that's how if they ever wanted to go out to the rest of the [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► market you take your iPad pro in 2020 right and you haven't officially [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► supported Bluetooth controller interface board or some sort of attachment thats [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► snaps into the Lightning connector on your phone or whatever and turns into a [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► game machine then suddenly now you the rest of the market is in real trouble [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► because they're saying we're not going to leave a portion of the game market [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► for you we're taking all the monies from all the casual games and even that niche [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► market for just people who want more sassy since we're going to take that too [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► because guess what we have official support for games you play that do not [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► require you to touch the screen and then everyone else is doing but Apple so far [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► has been like just to stick to the touch screen like that sort of thing it's [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► simple if you feel like you can't make certain type of game you can play with [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► touchscreen tough luck may don't then don't do it then right [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► yeah but that's i mean as a user I kinda like that like I as a user as Apple but [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► I just saying like it it doesn't show me that they're really really into gaming [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► because they're not they're not trying to say what kind of interactive gaming [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► experiences can we have let's make it like an intended to gain antennas what [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► can we make to do something new and in gaming and we don't care we have to make [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► a crazy wang Li remote a second screen like you know whenever we just accept [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► easy online play and what they would do that if they could send a company if not [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► really a they would like that to happen if you could sprinkle fairy dust make it [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► happen but I like they are you know their whole company is focused on what [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► can we make to make to push the frontiers of gaming Apple's not doing [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► at all not even close to go back a little bit I have to disagree that's all [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► well maybe not to scream but point out that may be solitary is not the most [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► widely played game ever because I can tell you when I had a Nokia Nokia [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► whatever it's called phone and it had nibbles on it or whatever hell yeah [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► that's what I saw that getting played on my ass I feel like the sheer number of [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► idle hours a desk grounds not wanting to work at 3.1 miles 95 like this [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► institutionalize all people solitaire playing for just hours as they sit at [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► the security desk but also those windows games were the three windows games where [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► the two and sometimes you didn't get free so I don't know what the likely [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► that what conditions led to that or what version of Windows hadn't didn't but [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► like solitaire minesweeper those have been on every desktop computer that [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► everyone has ever had that ran Windows most of them since the early nineties [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► earlier and they're still there now like like this you know that you have had [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► like what twenty five years at least there on your work computer is the king [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► of course you put everything on your work computer there's nothing except in [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► special before the web the rebels really hurt that because now you can so that [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► that's probably some time away from you know who the people sitting at desks [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► being bored but the country there won't notice using mine sweeper yeah I have to [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► wonder I wish I wish the monitoring and also calculate the sheer number of our [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► people have spent playing minesweeper does not translate well that sucks by [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► the way I i download one for the iPad for most recent flight somewhere and [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► remember trying it out and the problem is like the difference between flagging [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► a square and opening it which is a really really important things to do not [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► get on with their right to get in touch with you right [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► like it even if you could send us the double-tap was one of them and one of [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► them is like tap and hold but like if you mess up once you blow up your games [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► over the evening casual games can be touched mine sweeper doesn't feel like [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► it for a long time that two of the biggest casual games or minesweeper and [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► Tetris and neither of those work on top I'm a huge Tetris fan and it does not [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► work on ya but you know about that that's not to say that there aren't [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► awesome casual games that I touch screens have done and tender time move [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► where their worst types of games that were not possible without a touch screen [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► and suddenly the whole world of them has opened up so that but clearly that is [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► not like the other side effect of making a touch screen interface and I really do [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► believe the date they are making their hardware like they want who wants two GB [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► with all the game people so they are in consultation with my calls but that's as [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► far as it goes will give you a great GPU will give you a great screen don't ask [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► us through anything else but also to give them a lot of good API's like [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► making games for iOS is way better of a business and way better for the [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► programmers they're making games for Android and Apple knows this and and I [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► think Apple tries to stay ahead of us as much as they can like Apple's devices [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► consistently have really good GPUs like there's a lot of Android devices sold [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► that are really lopsided they have their fast CPU is really high resolution [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► screens in a really terrible GPUs because it's harder to really advertised [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► that its hard to get it right or more expensive so I like Apple does so well [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► with with having all their devices being able to play really great games and [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► they're not being that many GPUs out there so it's it's easy to program from [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► the Apple devices and so the end result because they have no OpenGL accelerated [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► good right [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► and an apple AAPL knows very much that gaming is extremely important to attract [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► and keep people on their platform especially young people I mean the whole [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► iPod touch was so focused on gaming for so long because of that because they [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► knew that it was a whole lot of iPod Touch owners are like kids and teenagers [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► who have parents who want to buy my phones yet and so they have iPod touches [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► and and you know games are really important those markets they they really [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► do focus quite a lot of games and makes me sad when I see it like a lot of my [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► friends and relatives without my consultation or blessing have decided [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► they're gonna buy their children are significant others Kindle Fire so God [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► and then I go and I fire agencies and then I go and I see the kids playing [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► games on a Kindle Fire is nothing sadder on the Kindle Fire and I'm not trying to [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► sound like a leader like the Kindle Fire is not a game machine I get your kid [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► intended es like it will cost you less money and they could well have so much [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► more fun yeah I did a lot of candle fires were bought for kids thinking the [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► game machines that make sense of things you want to keep a cheap solution to [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► your kids desire for an iPad you know if they if they break it or lose it you [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► know you can be out a hundred and sixty bucks instead of 500 bucks like that [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► that's a way more attractive thing for parents I'm sure but yeah man the Kindle [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► Fire haven't using the new generation ones but the the first generation when [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► that I have is is a terrible device in every possible way I mean it's like when [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► you're there is a big fan of coke and your parents by you like cases are [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► seeking like there are no redeeming factors to the Kindle Fire won it it's [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► just so so bad it wasn't even cheap enough to make it worth being this bad [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► parents by their kids contender des plays its not that much money you can [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► get it used all my mother 3ds done even spring for the fancy thats whats too [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► expensive to attend ODS its indestructible and has a bazillion [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► awesome games [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► that are fun that the frame rates are good on its not a tablet but I think [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► once your kids is able to start caring about the framerate then maybe a pretty [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► tough games I would rather play this game buttons buttons and a deep red and [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► green if I had to pick a platform to play Tetris on rather play Tetris on the [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► dsi I mean the game boy was the original you know Tetris monster machine for kids [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► parents are playing it on their on their PCs but the kids in the back of the car [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► with the game boy with the gigantic came by with the you know not black and white [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► but kind of yellowish greenish black those were the days [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► Tetris that you know and Tetris Tetris machine oh yeah because any game with a [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► scrolling background like a platform or just smeared so badly on that screen you [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► couldn't just looking here the exact same problem came here arable [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► every every week he better get used six double A batteries but i'm used them up [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► in five and yes I think it would burn through six batteries in like 45 minutes [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► or an hour it was it was a pretty short period last year lunch period in middle [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► school that's my gauge for those things that last it was like what you can bring [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► to lunch and I don't turn onto luncheon plate lunch about the end of lunch while [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► the batteries are dying now and if so you have to have like these tremendous [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► rechargeable battery pack accessories or any night had not even a terrible [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► terrible memory effect on them [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► oh yeah people in cambridge House big light things are on the front lines as [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► big as big like like magnifying glass combo accessory it's with serious that's [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► what you missed out on to it by not being a Mac user so the the original Mac [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► desktop machine let's call called the Mac portable it had a lead acid battery [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► like oh my god are we [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► 16 pounds i believe i have been in my attic [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► it weighed 16 pounds it had a full size actual real keyboard [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► impound lot and so it's like a laughingstock like a trackball embedded [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► in true to form over there's a laughingstock type of thing like this is [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► a ridiculous game but you know what it had said something that you kids might [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► know the name of called an active-matrix LCD screen and that meant when you move [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► stuff the screen updated it was like a miracle it was like a miracle all seen [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► the smearing LCD screens like LCD screens those are terrible and when she [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► says things like wait a second [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► it doesn't smear you know I mean I probably get an hour probably ghosting [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► mess but it was active matrix versus you know the passive matrix displays these [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► all it was such a nice day and experience it was like this is what I [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► want to happen I don't care 216 pounds of plastic battery I don't care that [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► it's a gigantic piece for the handle the screen is amazing you know that there [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► was the old apple there was always something something phenomenal about [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► even their worst machines did you in the Mac universe back then you guys ever [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► have mouse pointer trails intentionally or unintentionally caused the crappy the [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► first powerbook so active major stomach may have only been an option I remember [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► her mouse cursor trails on bad laptops for it was it was actually a feature of [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► Windows 3.1 that it was a feature where it would it would just draw it will [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► leave the mouse pointer graphic it would not [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► unlit it would draw it on the screen in the shadows so like a very similar when [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► Windows freezes and what happened around the time when a window blocks its main [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► event loop whatever I forgot to call a Windows but when it doesn't respond with [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► main event loop and it doesn't respond to repainting events so everything just [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► kind of spirit is not is it still true in Windows seven and eight that it's the [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► windows aren't their own layers anymore [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► Windows Windows 7 Aero has a composite England [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► oh good finally ok cuz I know before you can turn off though Windows good but [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► yeah like the screen for so bad by the time they actually added artificial now [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► trails to make it easier to see where your mouse pointer was assigned where it [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► is and that's that's actually kind of inaccessibility think I got my mother [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► uses the crank up the size of the cursor think service is going right and so that [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► because you can't do otherwise you forget where the cursor is and you can't [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► see it like your way around trying to get emotional he got trails and your way [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► around all the time this is white swirl happened on the corner like all there's [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► the cursor to market can I ask you about the magazine so you had tweeted earlier [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► today which if this gets released by the time anyone here is that it's gonna be [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► like a week ago but anyway you had tweeted that you added support for other [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► male clients other than Apple Mail and it got me to thinking in I'm probably [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► not looking at this rate but I wanted to hear your does is taking me to thinking [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► that to some degree I feel like that sort of developer effort that you had to [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► go through to support all these other male clients which I'm assuming it's [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► just a series of your all schemes is that correct [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► I literally had support for Gmail and peres because I can't nobody told me any [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► other client they're using except for that new mailbox thing that they don't [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► have a URL scheme so I can't do anything with it but it got me to thinking that [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► that almost smells to me like the Iowa equivalent of the Android fragmentation [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► in the sense that it's something that's not well managed by I mean you're all [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► schemes are well managed by the owner but they're really really the Wild West [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► out their Creator codes you know ok sounds fair but what I'm driving it is [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► there's a mechanism for Internet communication but but really that that [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► is a hack to me that you shouldn't have to go through and I don't think it's [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► Apple style to let you pick a different mail client released on iOS but that's [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► just kinda smells like what are you I was curious what you guys thought about [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► that I don't like letting you pick a different [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► client but eventually like him you think I think about the Mac how how they don't [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► really like letting you pick your different default browser like member [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► when there was the internet config control panel were you said 11 [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► application you want to use for the FTP protocol what application do you want to [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► use for and like you got the pic above them like you know what I suppose it is [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► a preference and so far in every stupid web browser had to say no I'm the [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► default browser no I and you have to go to the app itself to change that setting [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► like there was no sign there still is a systemwide registry database of who can [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► run but it's not expose and and that's the Mac response to the wild west on iOS [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► like a different default mail client will screw you like that's fine when I [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► went to the magazine I saw want me to send an email and the only email I kinda [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► have configured on my Mac is not one of the ones that I would want to use your [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► web browser so I couldn't you know I don't have my I use the Gmail app this [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► is before you added gmail support whatever is like anytime I see anything [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► it's sending email I West my heart dropped because I'm like oh well that's [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► not using this site you does not have one really obscure account configured to [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► mail I never look at it and i dont wanna sent from that account and it's not my [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► real account and it's not like my Apple ID the account not just it just [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► depresses me all because I deign to use a different email client yeah I mean [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► it's it's it's a mess that whole role as a mess but I think gmail is probably the [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► only real exception where there's actually demand that matters to Apple I [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► don't like on the Mac when when a lot of this message was designed like you know [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► the early days of of mail and Safari Safari sucked anyways Apple didn't have [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► a classic Mac OS like of course they're gonna let you pick what your default [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► application for Apple to me about the horse in the game is not a mailer I [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► guess you know loosely affiliated but it is certain have a web browser like IE [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► browser netscape you know our ICAP dog I guess they had to come back but like [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► that underpinning like if you are designing an awesome OS on a support [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► third-party development of course you have to have a system by which the user [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► gets to choose [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► which of these unnamed third party applications they want to serve these [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► particular needs but the month Apple has a horse in the game like it simplifies [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► things you rightly so you don't have to shop around like Apple gives you [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► something everything works out of the box in your fine but God forbid you are [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► slowly advanced user and say you know what I believe all use a different email [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► classic whoa whoa hold up what are you doing here you know and I'm at on a Mac [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► you can figure out how to do it but no person can like if if my parents decided [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► they want to use a different plan which they probably never would be if they did [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► they would have no idea how to do that they would never think to look at them [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► in the preferences for the mail client that they can either mail client is one [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► thing to look for the provinces to tell the OS it would do with the branches to [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► a third party ones would have would have a nag screen will pop up saying a USO is [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► the default but I think I like iOS just like because because I was launched with [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► the best browser email client available on iOS and the only well well but now [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► it's now I would say mail and Safari are still the best male well I am and they [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► won't let anyone else use nitro JavaScript engine so dunno under its the [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► best like you know for safety reasons and whatever like they have legitimate [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► security reasons for not allowing that to happen but everyone else's hands tied [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► behind their backs and no one has ever come pick a better browser than Safari [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► in terms of performance and when bernie is that the only guys get to use the [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► good rendering JavaScript mention I wouldn't faster than everyone else is on [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► iOS but that does but I don't think I don't think that's what's holding back [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► the other browsers you're not a lot you're not allowed to use it like that's [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► why it doesn't use entirely including and that's unlike chrome on the Mac [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► which is the VA job to make an interpreter that's the other thing you [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► can't and that's our game maker and you get grandfather crazy stunts deal that [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► would be a to let them run Lua scripts or whenever I think that is an [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► interpreter they change interpretation that rule like a year ago to be to be [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► more even more vague and unspecified but more sensible most of the time but still [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► in its box without JavaScript engine so clearly are you making a language and we [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► don't want you to download download code for the Internet executed the you know [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► so you have to use our JavaScript engine and the slow version of our JavaScript [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► engine doesn't have all the security you know possibly security feature so no one [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► is gonna make a browser that's going to be universally better than Safari and [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► then mail I would say that lots of people would say that people already [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► have made better clients than male at an out if you like this mailbox crazy thing [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► which has other server-side and security and privacy concerns do it but client [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► was like it's an innovation in terms of how you deal with your mail and I really [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► like the information I just like everything else about the crime was [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► gonna get it but they have a chance to get there is a chance of some of them [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► iOS native mail client annapolis is no technical reason holding them back [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► only thing is that smell so what no other application is going to see your [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► stupid male thing when you send mail we're gonna stop all about the mail cuz [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► I still works great so do you ever think that will change i mean i don't i don't [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► i don't ever see there being enough demand from customers honestly like [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► Gmail maybe chrome know why I just don't see there being this massive demand from [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► customers on iOS to want to use our clients enough for Apple to want to [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► change their minds in the policy like if they were to be different I think [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► long-term what's going to happen is that as in so many things there is going to [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► be a new killer application either category or individual instance that [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► wants to fill the role that's currently filled by a default Apple application [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► and in order to be competitive there will be public pressure to save heyy can [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► I use popular new thing instead of the dumb defaulting that comes and that will [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► only happen not because of any good because of the sheer mindshare and and [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► sort of cultural attraction of this other thing gets they dodged the bullet [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► on Twitter for that because it was always third party and they didn't have [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► a single horse in the game right and the integrated into the OS but I don't know [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► what the next thing is but whatever it is if it wants to take over like web [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► browsing or mail sending it becomes wildly popular independent of Apple AAPL [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► be under pressure from that same casual public to how come everytime i send [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► email and on my iPhone it brings up the stupid application I want to sound [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► hollow man with the new holographic holo whatever thing that's made by third [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► party companies [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► apple and they have an app but everytime i send me like that's the phenomenon [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► looking forward to going to be something becomes popular independent of Apple [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► that they can't be ignored and they're good just gonna be for sale [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► you know alright we leave you now have a way for you to choose which application [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► you want to send mail and Mr boring other one or this crazy hobo mail that [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► everyone loves sir i'm mispronouncing but maybe maybe would actually take [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► would be one of those killer apps getting huge and no taking over girly [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► fast look like Instagram levels and growth just taking a really crazy but on [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► Android instead and not even being available on iOS because they would say [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► on my iPhone the stupid Apple apples comes up on my android phone I get to [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► pick up 21 and everybody has a tender for an automatically pick whatever crazy [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► popular new thing is in so everyone is happening on doing their thing in the [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► applicable I guess we have this workaround we're like most tablets like [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► the worst case scenarios people have to do a market is doing alright like you [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► tried to do with the magazine or chrome yeah just automatically take the reins [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► of you have chrome installed on your forces do crap like that because you use [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► the OS gives no way for people who want to use chrome to indicate that [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► preference I shouldn't have to do this at all that there should be absolutely [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► no reason why an app developer should need to student to separately could [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► support for different male clients are different browsers I shouldn't even have [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► to know what browsers are out there it's like every application you have to have [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► the stupid proliferation of preferences and dealing with your up articles [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► because it just makes them and that's like the worst thing that can happen [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► that something becomes wildly popular Apple refuses to budge every application [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► that does anything that involves application suddenly as a preference [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► says use Apple the full use this one or whatever and then every time you [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► download an application you gotta go into settings and change and how I gotta [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► tell us to use my fantastical kind of almost everything they want to make a [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► counter but I can replace the default calendar I guess a lot of people who [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► would buy and iOS counter application completely replacing the existing [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► counter if they could you know I would do that with fantastical absolutely and [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► actually you were talking about something that's only on Android that [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► isn't this is a great example but the junta mine was the swype keyboard [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► thing that all the Android users rave about that I don't think it's popular [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► enough to to get the response from Apple that you're talking about John but that [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► certainly is something that I think of that [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► that enjoyed users can hold over our heads and say hey look we can do and you [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► can't without like a limit to what Apple do like letting you pick your favorite [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► application is within the realm of what I would consider plausible for Apple to [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► do in the future but letting you pick like a different app instead of [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► springboard is outside that you know different keyboard like a third-party [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► keyboard app that is just like that that's a good yardstick is the question [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► do they let you replace the final now that you know like it you can hack it up [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► and you know figure out a way to do this it's the neck and it's much more open [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► than I was but they don't offer you that option you can pick your default browser [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► you can pick your default mail client and you can pick which application [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► automatically has ownership over you know . shtml the hell you want but you [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► cannot take surveys you know what I'm not into the Finder can you mentioned [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► about finance now it's up to the pathfinder Debs to make that happen so [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► keyboards probably outside the realm of possibility in the near or distant [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► future [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► springboard replacement also probably not gonna never gonna happen this way [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► but replacement male browsers [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► I mean maybe not mail maybe never has maybe not counted as something along [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► those lines a camera apps may be there aren't that many types of apps like that [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► that that there that they use days is so compelling to replace the default apps [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► out there really a there are really aren't a lot of categories and that's [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► why I think like like counter is a great example of one of those categories but I [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► think the demand for that is even lower than the demand for browser I would say [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► demand for browsers is probably lowest because chrome on iOS is not that much [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► better than Safari on iOS demand is probably highest for email clients [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► because everyone wants to use the Gmail app I think that that is probably the [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► strongest case for this preference existing calendars I don't think you [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► know I think the market for alternative counters [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► while it may be big enough to support a few developers doing it [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► I don't think it's big enough for Apple to hate to have to care about about [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► having a default setting I don't know I calendars reminders to do this like [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► there are tons of third-party things that people like the defaults are a lot [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► of people nor the defaults third-party market is so rich for those things [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► experiment like you know they were head of apple and integrating with a Mac line [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► and iPad and iPhone all together with one big shared that you know me it's [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► just that they're not so much to launch from other applications like what you [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► don't want people to be in a cool app and see that they're about to do some [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► activity that's going to invoke another app and realize that sinking feeling [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► that all this is not going to invoke the app that I want right and that [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► repeatedly happening to people is what makes people said i guess im happens [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► mostly caused by sending email cuz they you know it's not done for me she liked [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► it we might be with that a PR efforts they send you off to the to the Mail app [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► to send you an email and you don't let you don't end up in the Gmail operate [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► every are you sure you want to use the applicant nip this in the bud like the [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► reason we had it so much of browsers universal Microsoft stagnated on IE [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► message was not going to develop that anymore I six is perfect and never need [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► to be changed over again and the gap has widened and became increasingly crazy [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► imagine if if Windows users could not change their default browser at all but [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► I do like explicitly I copied around launch launch netscape back in the day [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► paste the URL and you know that's that's like what the situation is like an iOS [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► now if you want to do something different your mail about your own child [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► is this a link to tap it and that's that's on the new version of one parent [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► newest version of one Password they did something absolutely brilliant which was [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► they made their URL handlers opie HTTP and Opie HTTPS so the premises if you're [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► in Safari and you want to open that site admin password is fiddly admittedly but [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► its is unfairly as you can be which is to say you go to the URL Barney put [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► letters open in front of whatever the crap is there and then it'll kick over [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► 21 password [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► they had to make their own browsers will head to do so yeah yeah you're [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► absolutely right that's that's like that is so terrible like your OnePass burning [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► you want to provide password management services and the only way you can do it [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► it's like I've just gotta just how to make the whole new browser it's great [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► that they can do it with a nice incredible web control and everything [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► like that but it's like that's the heavyweights actually don't even browse [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► the web from the browse the web from our thing because this is one of the things [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► we want to do in some cases and we can't do it unless you do really using our [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► software I have the exact same thing with Instapaper as I wanted to add an [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► easy read later but because it makes that so hard to do that I built a whole [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► web browser into Instapaper so that people could browse 11 save stuff from [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► it if they couldn't figure out how to install the bookmarklet and you should [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► you should never have that feature mental and hunt you down and I was like [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► I would love to remove that feature I would like to I like to bring up the the [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► web page without leaving the app like common use case I would love to remove [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► it but I probably never can because of because of things like that because [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► there's enough people use it but also because there's gonna be so many people [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► who who just browse from that figure out how to the bookmark [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► I can't do anything about the bookmarklet like a habit but it's just [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► yeah I mean I think like a system like Windows its contracts would really go a [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► long way toward solving a lot of these issues not all of them there has to be [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► some issues but you know if if if Apple broadens this whole activity thing from [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► iOS 6 and combining with the remote view controllers thing that they quietly [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► added 2006 as well use behind the scenes if they if they transform this into [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► something like when does it contracts with iOS 7 maybe if if they would be at [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► well it would be a tremendous help if they did it that way right now in its [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► current limitation I was six it's it's really extremely unhelpful in many ways [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► we're like you know for me it for me to add the send Instapaper button in the [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► magazine I had to manually code that into the magazine provide an icon for [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► it right on the code to login to Instapaper to save it all that stuff [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► even though I have been super app installed if I wanted it to be in the [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► app without kicking over the instep rapid and kicking back because you know [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► kind of an elegant if I wanted all be in the app I had to read it all myself [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► there's no way Instapaper could offer to the magazine its own like interface that [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► could be in the magazine share panel that doesn't exist yet [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► share panel will open up almost guaranteed a nice you'll be able to [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► really hope so but but that's a major tournament at a major architectural [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► change though like that and that that's why it's a big deal if they do it and it [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► might not happen yet because it is such a major change but that would like that [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► wouldn't that's that's part of what Windows 8 contracts are that would go a [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► long way toward solving a lot of these problems if I could just if I could just [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► say here I have I have this item to share openly share panel and I can offer [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► you a URL a file of this type and this text and any absecon do something with [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► these things can show up here and do their thing I don't have to call it [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► myself that would go a long way is the view controller stuff the stuff that's [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► using XP see that's actually an RSX but not you know not public yes it's as far [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► as external processing communicates with it through like a secure sandbox channel [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► exactly yeah it's it's it's currently used for the email sharing controller [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► and I think maybe even the Twitter one and the same but definitely the mailman [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► use and and like thats they could definitely use that exact same kind of [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► system to to do this for all third party apps and have this kind of system and [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► the shares is therefore the church's liturgy what you said it was just it's [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► just a question of clearing which applications can handle this type of [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► thing showing the stupid I concentrating on the data you know with a launch event [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► you know like at the Instapaper you'd be perfectly happy if the evidence to paper [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► was that the share bundling I used to be a break on your application gets like [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► all you need is a pretty euro gets URL and can has a chance to shove it in [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► somewhere [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► then you know well but the question is what do you do my ab to switch to my apt [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► first of its kind that's kind of how again or is my apt is my absence brought [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► up in the background state and I percent to view controller that the remote [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► controller then displays and then I'm just hand and then and my up never shows [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► up that would be the right way that did the sheriff the sheriff is going to [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► launch the remote control thing where you get to present an interface is what [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► you really want that speak no more complicated anytime there's a private [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► API like that used by Apple apps that you know like species public API the Mac [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► right so this is kind of one of those things where it seems like this is this [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► is this is how public API private becomes public like how a bill becomes a [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► law baby is made for that uses it and all their apps and then they hopefully [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► bringing the bugs out of it and then the next release they open up their own or [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► an extra fees they decide they made a terrible mistake scrapping start over [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► Republican the max I feel pretty good about that the only problem I have with [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► this idea is let's take in in the example of the best of the magazine what [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► I don't really see how this would help in the sense that what you're doing is [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► you're doing something with the URL so if you have a share sheet and you're [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► presenting to the shares sheet hey I've got a URL who can do something with this [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► is going to be half the damn apps on your iPhone or iPad whatever the case [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► may be and that's why they don't do it like I register for star data actually [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► like there is there is a good interview from capone on on debug the podcast by [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► an average guy English ship owned the guy anyway grab all the way he was [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► talking on their show about [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► how this is a problem on Android but that doesn't meant this feature because [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► then you had his absence showed his giant long lists of what you can do with [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► something and they're kind of they're not really order to name any good way [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► you can't really set like a default of what you want to show up on top for [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► certain types like it that actually then becomes a pretty challenging interface [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► problem they can do things like where you hold down the icon and they wiggle [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► and you can text imagine there's a more button at the bottom to get some back I [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► get it you're gonna have to turn those lists because it is seen as you do that [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► yet all I can look at the franklin had started are used up I don't know [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► well first of all they can they can police so they can say well you know you [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► really have a use for this or not only register for it but some applications [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► don't like have legit like what if you're a text editor any time [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► something's tax till I go look there is never any of the elements again our PDF [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► reader yeah a good reader in Dropbox would record for every file type or or [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► an image like all your camera apps are gonna show you what you want the [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► interface problems you want to it's either gonna have to be opted in which [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► would be kind of annoying for a good use his or opt out where you just you know [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► used the gesture that we all know to make icons go I would hold your finger [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► down the middle X and then you know criminalist maybe that will be oriental [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► it'll just three order itself when like you know whichever one you used last [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► would move to the front the list that's good just to read the reason springboard [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► doesn't work that way because it would drive people nuts or leftist Safari [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► where to go [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► recently you just you know muscle memory of like that she comes up in the papers [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► top left corner you tap advanced top left corner because he didn't use it for [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► use a different last time as angry making green and that's what I'm driving [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► out is that our PC definitely solves a problem which is if you are Marco and [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► you want to have a needed Instapaper share function from within the magazine [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► right now you're screwed and RPC would fix that but to me it doesn't really fix [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► the problem of I have a URL I wish to email what email this URL because it's [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► more than just having a URL you wanna share or do something with you want [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► you want to be able to say that my intention is to email it and then that [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► calls the list down to whatever email clients you have or perhaps if Apple was [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► not seen in how to default email client setting then it then that is what you [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► get under intense it would just be a particle Germany would be action action [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► had to be like if you have arrived at a kind of like to know who can handle the [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► spaceport datatype [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► that's also the intention is like I would like to know who who is an email [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► like Apple can just to find these things that I was saying and other Pakistan [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► while ago if Apple wants allows third-party applications by all means [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► let its a look if you want to be a third-party application that [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► participates in the system we're defining here's how you must behave in [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► terms of RBC here's the features you have to support you must support [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► attachments custom subject lines to his friend like so you can like conform to [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► some protocol that I'm sure Apple's Mail I already told you can conforms to [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► whatever like define it however you want people would jump through hoops to be [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► like you know so you don't run to the problem of like oh you pick the third [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► party application that can handle subject lines for some reason and my [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► application doesn't work because it put some code in the subject line you know [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► I'm like that's what they want to avoid I call you because because you're not [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► using the application your stuff broke so they would have to say if you want to [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► be a replacement for a system thing you must support these features this [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► protocol you know described as tight as you want because people jump through to [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► be in that and that will solve the consistency problem of being afraid [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► everything is working fine but because you third-party application something [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► broke you know and that's a huge support problem for developers and that's not [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► that's a start it impossible right now I mean and that's kind of like right now I [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► because I'm building in support from these things manually I can test them [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► all and I can be pretty sure that the options that everybody that anybody will [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► ever see [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► will all work but once you start integrating with other things then [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► people start blaming you for like oh when I shared two new experimental [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► browser acts from your share panel it didn't work right in this weird window [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► email me saying it's my fault I just had everything but the co podcast ever since [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► I went up people like I've tried to subscribe to your feed reader and it [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► showed me this crazy ass thing in the show me like [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► a sheet in a reader that shows a huge list of things none of which are which [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► have my name related to like what that I like that must be running a search of [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► something what the hell is it doing it and you like but it's it's a euros HTTP [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► colon slash slash and has a bunch of stuff you click it and like this is on [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► the Mac so it activates ok what is your handle ur rss diecast looks at the MIME [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► type of the kind of thing coming back feat or whatever and that launches your [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► preferred user application which haven't e-readers newspeople systems and then [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► reader gets it turns out what Safari does takes off the HTTP puts in feed [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► colon slash slash if it finds out whatever the default protocol for [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► handling fee basis what is your newsreader launches that gives it that [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► you're on I believe [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► exercises to feel at that point and Hansbrough without believe he should [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► appear something that when it comes down to is that we read what we do is doing [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► is taking your eyes it was given with which no longer had on i think was [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► stripping off the feed reader stripping off the field colon slash slash not [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► putting a GBP / last back on eating that to the good or Google Reader API and [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► Google Reader le peintre be interpreted that as a search term and not a URL and [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► clarity and so god damn that is a pretty bennis like like how how complicated is [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► that it's a link that you click the launches of protocol and you know me [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► like it's that's a symbol that could possibly and yet it still went totally [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► awry like once it went off to a third-party application like oh yeah I'm [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► totally compliant I handle feed URLs but then it doesn't them it passes them to [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► Google Reader and cool reader does something crazy with it and then so you [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► can be like hey I tried to subscribe to your newspaper when I clicked on it [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► because I use isn't whatever newsreader you tested with something crazy happens [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► I guess no matter how simple you may get something can go wrong that you did not [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► expect it was bogus external expert Peter Luger's five more I'll be happy [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► like a result I don't know the reasons I'm assuming it's because they don't [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► think that CO is like a company like a real extension that are looking for the [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► dot-com [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► doing their fuzzy matching is this a URL kind of odd [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► but the search terms that come up vaguely related to me cause this kind of [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► hypocritical and feed in Maine and she thinks she sees things about the podcast [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► my name and a while to figure that one out [TS]