00:00:07 ◼ ► but I'm also I jam writing the Jenny I was getting out as well I mean maybe don't do that gig. [TS]
00:00:17 ◼ ► I already hear I remember you not here that wrote the songs that I can hear and mine was down [TS]
00:00:22 ◼ ► or any of my mega seconds on my my car I don't get any louder throw me how just my by voting with the people this is [TS]
00:00:30 ◼ ► going to be a really depressing episode because not only do we have to talk about some of the news from today [TS]
00:00:36 ◼ ► but we have to talk about a silly monitor is it silly. It's only silly it is that Mundra long promised this is so. [TS]
00:00:50 ◼ ► and every time I've written about us our printer my site the topic always comes up of sometime in the distant future. [TS]
00:00:57 ◼ ► What we actually want is two times the current twenty seven inch resolution which would be fifty one twenty by twenty [TS]
00:01:09 ◼ ► but yes if the quad twenty seven inch that's going to talking about who we're going to get a metro you gotta lie that I [TS]
00:01:15 ◼ ► really want to wait for the quad twenty seven inch monitor I'm still waiting at this from Dell. [TS]
00:01:20 ◼ ► Well so anyway so we were saying that this much like I was under the assumption because there are multiple problems. [TS]
00:01:26 ◼ ► Number one is that's just so many pixels at such a density that like like Dell was just able to ship four K. [TS]
00:01:34 ◼ ► Ones that a reasonable price at twenty four inches which is roughly the same density at twenty four inches. [TS]
00:01:40 ◼ ► They were able to ship those like last year or the beginning of this year so that was very very new and that's four K. [TS]
00:01:48 ◼ ► Resolution now this is like I think of like seventy percent more pixel It's a massive jump. [TS]
00:01:52 ◼ ► It's the same exactly the same for the same reason the same type of jump as it was to go from twenty four inch monitor [TS]
00:02:02 ◼ ► The second problem is that pushing that many pixels uses more bandwidth at sixty hertz than thunderbolt two can supply [TS]
00:02:11 ◼ ► and so the only way to do it is to split it using M S T which is its own kind of massive half supported by Guinness to [TS]
00:02:22 ◼ ► and monopolize most of the band with the both of them that you need you need twenty eight gigabits I think Max is [TS]
00:02:32 ◼ ► Like baseless put it into to have left half right half make the computer make a video card think it's two monitors [TS]
00:02:37 ◼ ► and then in the OAS fix it to see it as one monitor. Basically that's that's the gist anyway. [TS]
00:02:49 ◼ ► and special hardware support special software support so we were all assuming this would not come out for a very long [TS]
00:02:58 ◼ ► Turns out Dell is Dell is announced they're shipping one this winter possibly December ish [TS]
00:03:03 ◼ ► and it's only quote only twenty five hundred dollars and actually four for what that is [TS]
00:03:10 ◼ ► and for the jump that represents that I believe a fair price. There are some caveats to this. [TS]
00:03:15 ◼ ► One of the biggest is we don't know yet whether it runs sixty hertz. That's that's a problem like some. [TS]
00:03:27 ◼ ► It's like people who use it say it's it's really rough. You do notice the difference. [TS]
00:03:30 ◼ ► It doesn't look right doesn't feel right. You know cause I strain sometimes or whatever. Not good. [TS]
00:03:35 ◼ ► So you really need to be sixty hertz anyway so we don't know that and we don't know like currently for for mac people. [TS]
00:03:44 ◼ ► Nothing in the entire mac lineup has to do with honorable buses except the new MacPro So if this even if this comes out [TS]
00:03:51 ◼ ► assuming it uses two different cables to plug into two different interval buses to achieve that high bandwidth the only [TS]
00:04:07 ◼ ► There's a huge list of it's here on and on top of all that we don't know this monitor is going to suck. [TS]
00:04:13 ◼ ► We don't like it could as John you know it could be like Dell's monitors have spotty quality some of them are good some [TS]
00:04:19 ◼ ► of them are crappy the previous ones that use M S T The twenty four inch one twenty four inch four K. [TS]
00:04:37 ◼ ► To me what I think gives me promise here is that if Dell can ship one of these this winter for twenty five hundred [TS]
00:04:49 ◼ ► Maybe they put it in IMAX first I think they probably would honestly you know I think I think what we're very likely to [TS]
00:04:54 ◼ ► see this fall is a rat and I'm back with this resolution that is positioned above the current generation of IMAX like. [TS]
00:05:01 ◼ ► So it wouldn't replace them it would be a new higher marks it would have to be much more expensive possibly starting at [TS]
00:05:07 ◼ ► three thousand would be my guess. So maybe we'll see that maybe they'll just do four K. [TS]
00:05:25 ◼ ► or you know any of this would be truly amazing and this this is the true desktop right now. [TS]
00:05:31 ◼ ► They monitor like the I think the only other true retina monitor out there right now is the Dell twenty four inch four [TS]
00:05:44 ◼ ► Resolution of a standard size at a standard density like all the other four K. Monitors the four K. Like four K. [TS]
00:05:51 ◼ ► Resolution is twice ten and so a monitor that is roughly ten N.E.P. Which twenty four inch monitor classes. [TS]
00:06:00 ◼ ► Usually our twenty four inch monitor like old old twenty four inch L.C.D. Is. That is like the right size for four K. [TS]
00:06:08 ◼ ► To be retina anything bigger than that and either everything on the screen is too large [TS]
00:06:18 ◼ ► or any monitor with identical specs of this monitor is the only way to get true retina at twenty seven inches [TS]
00:06:23 ◼ ► or thirty inches. So that's why this is a big deal and we weren't expecting this for quite some time. [TS]
00:06:30 ◼ ► and I'm Act this year because I think it's still too far like I don't think they want that I don't think it makes sense [TS]
00:06:35 ◼ ► for the IMAX stretch that far up market Benchley sure are you know are we going to cheap or but I mean I think [TS]
00:06:43 ◼ ► when they do read on the IMAX it will not be at this resolution it will be something smaller because just just doesn't [TS]
00:06:48 ◼ ► make sense I mean with the way Apple's been treating the I'm a climate where do you think Marco if there is this [TS]
00:06:55 ◼ ► hypothetical IMAX that has this hypothetical retina display would you give up your beloved trash can for this I would [TS]
00:07:03 ◼ ► give it a couple of months to see if they released a standalone thunderbolt display version of it or you know a year [TS]
00:07:09 ◼ ► or two years or however long I think it was the gap between the twenty seven inch maybe it wasn't that long [TS]
00:07:16 ◼ ► and various times in the past it has seemed like an awful long time between the release of an Apple device with a [TS]
00:07:23 ◼ ► It's like it's like they have a class who will talk about do they care about individual displays in the more they do [TS]
00:07:29 ◼ ► that I mean they release the new MacPro and they really didn't care about monitors like here buy this thing for sharp. [TS]
00:07:35 ◼ ► Yeah exactly I mean and maybe the reason why is because they their monitor wasn't ready yet. [TS]
00:07:41 ◼ ► You know it may be they are planning a big update to thunderbolt displays but it wasn't ready yet [TS]
00:07:45 ◼ ► and it wouldn't be ready for six months they like art Well here take this. But so I think this fall. [TS]
00:08:00 ◼ ► Everyone's waiting on Broad Well I think it would be nice to do something like this you know not not say that that's a [TS]
00:08:08 ◼ ► but I don't I think this falls in to be awfully quiet for the mac lineup unless they do something like four K. [TS]
00:08:14 ◼ ► IMAX which they would call retina but will be nice if they if they actually update the mac pros with the new T.V. Use. [TS]
00:08:22 ◼ ► Right so that's going to be like for us to test how much they really care about the micro because there's a reason they [TS]
00:08:34 ◼ ► Like to they bother me updating they just say you know what we're going to skip this. [TS]
00:08:42 ◼ ► Do you want to talk about a funny tweet that you saw John where we talked a lot about sexism and the games industry [TS]
00:08:52 ◼ ► and I saw a couple of interesting things go by in the week since this film was a tweet that struck me as funny. [TS]
00:09:11 ◼ ► and tweet a picture which doesn't really make that much sense to me because as if a screen shot is proof of anything [TS]
00:09:18 ◼ ► and I'm always amazed that people who look at screenshots like but they'll ask for screenshots as proof. [TS]
00:09:26 ◼ ► and know that screen shots prove nothing like you can can right click on any web page [TS]
00:09:31 ◼ ► or make any screenshot you want kids anyway that's not the point of this is not a perfect picture of someone's tweet [TS]
00:09:38 ◼ ► who has an egg icon and blacked out the identifying information because not trying to like make fun of this person [TS]
00:09:46 ◼ ► and the text of this tweet says My biggest problem of the media meaning any of us are teasing of the feminist frequency [TS]
00:09:52 ◼ ► videos is that if I use her logic I could see sexism everywhere and the commentary added by this tweeter is teetering. [TS]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Now on the brink of an epiphany not only because it's going back to like seeing the Matrix type thing that that [TS]
00:10:08 ◼ ► reaction is natural for a lot of people being exposed to the stuff you know like cases like this. [TS]
00:10:13 ◼ ► So he's used up everywhere like you know like a conspiracy theorist like see the you know the the government's trying [TS]
00:10:20 ◼ ► and this person is you know offering that after the same kind of absurd notion as I have if I saw things the way this [TS]
00:10:34 ◼ ► and the other thing really to the stop of years ago people suggested the Twitter account everyday sexism to follow if [TS]
00:10:40 ◼ ► you just sort of want like sort of ambient exposure to this viewpoint without feeling like you have to engage with that [TS]
00:10:48 ◼ ► or whatever I don't follow the counsel I don't know what the tone is like look at some of the tweets [TS]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and you can just edit your Twitter stream and and just let it go by I don't feel like you have to argue with that. [TS]
00:11:05 ◼ ► I don't feel like you have to agree with all of it just that's another way to sort of expose yourself. [TS]
00:11:11 ◼ ► I know I don't follow the house so I can vouch for but other people do and they find it helpful. [TS]
00:11:17 ◼ ► And can I just kind of jump on the feedback regarding the last episode just to thank pretty much all of our listeners [TS]
00:11:25 ◼ ► all the feedback that I've heard almost exclusively there's of course a couple of bad apples here and there [TS]
00:11:34 ◼ ► And I've seen a lot of people talking about following the hosts of nice isometric show [TS]
00:11:41 ◼ ► and given the subject matter that could have taken a turn for the worst in terms of listener response [TS]
00:11:48 ◼ ► and I am extremely glad and proud that so many people seem pleased with how it was handled [TS]
00:12:00 ◼ ► Better word so enlightened by the conversation and so many thanks to all our listeners for for sticking out [TS]
00:12:16 ◼ ► when we discuss like Android phones you want to sort of take care of our audience topics that we can discuss without [TS]
00:12:23 ◼ ► without much angry male sectors and topics that we can't discuss without a lot of angry mail. Android So there you go. [TS]
00:12:34 ◼ ► and you know I was pleasantly surprised as well I thought you know our listeners you never know [TS]
00:12:41 ◼ ► and it's all part of this community wherever you never know if you're just going to suddenly draw gigantic red line [TS]
00:12:47 ◼ ► and half of them are going to send you angry e-mails that did not happen just because they don't care. [TS]
00:12:53 ◼ ► Doesn't mean they're going to greet us just be like yeah whatever we do You are right if you talk about tech stuff. [TS]
00:12:58 ◼ ► All right how about the mega Tivo that looks like a phonology But isn't everybody was saying [TS]
00:13:06 ◼ ► and I think that people said they don't understand why Tivo needs to learn have not capture the nuances of it so this [TS]
00:13:18 ◼ ► and I think I think the minimum right to if you put through the happy travelers I think the small ticket is for you [TS]
00:13:23 ◼ ► right now and it's around five thousand dollars to violent price that it's got twenty four terabytes of storage [TS]
00:13:29 ◼ ► and you know like that it's rack mount. So obviously this is not something that you stick on to your T.V. [TS]
00:13:36 ◼ ► and the great if like I say you buy the most expensive Tivo The problem with this device not that I would ever [TS]
00:13:42 ◼ ► but the reason it doesn't fill any sort of even like silly fantasy of Tivo that I might have is that the part the sort [TS]
00:13:50 ◼ ► of working part of this not the storage of storage is obviously all these hard drives and there's a lot of them right. [TS]
00:13:55 ◼ ► But the working part of it is exactly the same as a Tivo I have now I don't have more tuners I assume the interface is [TS]
00:14:00 ◼ ► or fast depending on how you want to get it like it doesn't have any better features than a Tivo all it has is like my [TS]
00:14:06 ◼ ► Tivo with tons more storage and you know cooling everything and power supply to power storage and so on and so forth. [TS]
00:14:12 ◼ ► I'm not running out of room on my Tivo. My problem is that storage always wanted to be like heaven all H.D. [TS]
00:14:16 ◼ ► Interface be faster be more responsive you know have the the built in apps be nicer that's what I want [TS]
00:14:27 ◼ ► when I saw the announcement I'm like oh they're going after you know shows like The Daily Show they like record tons of [TS]
00:14:32 ◼ ► channels or television people reviewing them so that's where they can you know get all that footage from [TS]
00:14:42 ◼ ► and It's not for an individual but it's for like a company to try to capture all these channels [TS]
00:14:48 ◼ ► but that's not what this is for as another company does that by the way well what's their name. [TS]
00:14:52 ◼ ► I'd like this are a snap stream snap stream makes giant rackmount D.V.R. Type things for just that purpose. [TS]
00:14:59 ◼ ► This Tivo is apparently for rich people so it's not it's not for institutions use be the probably doesn't have corners [TS]
00:15:07 ◼ ► and show notes it doesn't have like the the export facilities that the professional devices used to sort of get into [TS]
00:15:15 ◼ ► It's more like if you are very wealthy and have a crazy entertainment center and have like a separate room [TS]
00:15:20 ◼ ► or closet where all your television stuff is this is where you would put that rack right. [TS]
00:15:28 ◼ ► You'd only have six tuners is on not so much you can record where you just want to record it hard I don't know I really [TS]
00:15:33 ◼ ► don't think this is going to be a big winner product for them because it's not sort of something they're going to sell [TS]
00:15:40 ◼ ► and I don't I'm not sure how many rich people really want to have a giant rackmount Tivo but there you go. [TS]
00:15:47 ◼ ► RACHMAN Tivo I disagree I think your stereotypical rich person just wants the best darn Tivo that money can buy and [TS]
00:15:54 ◼ ► when you say well you could record three years of television I want that but you can't take the numbers. That's S.T. [TS]
00:16:00 ◼ ► Who records that they were they would inflate the number this is also like you know some of the chat so this is like [TS]
00:16:08 ◼ ► when this is for people who have so much money into building such an expensive home theater set up that they're paying [TS]
00:16:14 ◼ ► somebody else to design the whole thing for them and install in their home and build a little server rack closet [TS]
00:16:23 ◼ ► but even for that like it's not even those people they say these are the features that I want I want this thing [TS]
00:16:28 ◼ ► and I don't know if I don't even know if Tivo fits on a list like one of those names those crazy things that rip the [TS]
00:16:39 ◼ ► Now it is that you have to keep the disks in the device so they have giant jukebox not a rip they ripple your Blu rays. [TS]
00:16:48 ◼ ► and the Dr is a giant like Cube box type things as well now it's legal because all the things are in the drive. [TS]
00:16:54 ◼ ► I figure anyway that is like I think it's called Kaleidoscope because the chat room is attempting to spell kaleidoscope [TS]
00:17:02 ◼ ► Yeah escape to those type of things you sell that as if you're an installer if you're a media center install you say [TS]
00:17:09 ◼ ► hey Blu ray is the best quality you can get now for you know you can buy for yourself. [TS]
00:17:14 ◼ ► Which is true unless I guess you're buying your own like film printer seventy millimeter film Friends [TS]
00:17:22 ◼ ► Would you like to be able to have access to a giant collection of Blu rays on demand whenever you want. [TS]
00:17:28 ◼ ► This Tivo thing it's like well you could get just the plane you know the regular person Tivo that I have now [TS]
00:17:36 ◼ ► but you'll run out of room if you don't if you don't watch anything you record for like three weeks [TS]
00:17:42 ◼ ► So really you should get this five thousand dollars thing that will run out of room that they will last like you if you [TS]
00:17:51 ◼ ► It's not it's too much storage like you know you can have you only have six tuners you can't you can't say I like my [TS]
00:18:00 ◼ ► You know for a week and that way whenever I want to watch something I don't have to choose [TS]
00:18:04 ◼ ► or to record you recorded everything or have to choose what I want to watch based on I'm moving week window [TS]
00:18:08 ◼ ► or to England or whatever but this candidate is going to fix dinner so I don't understand the product. [TS]
00:18:18 ◼ ► Anyway what do you think will sell more this or the Amazon Fire phone if you're a rich person [TS]
00:18:30 ◼ ► And now I'm an installer and I think Well money's no object about it in the best darn D.V.R. They can that I can buy. [TS]
00:18:36 ◼ ► They're going to get this ridiculous Tivo that really to your point serves no particular purpose other than to make [TS]
00:18:44 ◼ ► and this is like like the kind of installation we're talking about that has you know a custom home theater stuff [TS]
00:18:50 ◼ ► and some stuff that is going to that might be like a seventy five grand installation so you know that the five thousand [TS]
00:19:01 ◼ ► and they were I was playing I think the price is the limiting factor I'm just thinking like feature wise I don't know [TS]
00:19:05 ◼ ► if this is Briana thing to the table that a regular Tivo wouldn't an installer can can charge five thousand dollars for [TS]
00:19:11 ◼ ► a regular Tivo like the price of the thing has no bearing on what the person gets charged for the installation. [TS]
00:19:20 ◼ ► Now last time I mentioned that a lot of people kept writing in telling me I was pronouncing the name wrong. [TS]
00:19:26 ◼ ► Turns out I went and I asked them hey can you send me and your a recording of you pronouncing this name for me. [TS]
00:19:39 ◼ ► I also had all the employees that I was in contact with I had them record themselves saying it so I have the authority [TS]
00:19:47 ◼ ► to pronunciation of this company is covered and the main difference seems to be that if you are British or Australian [TS]
00:19:55 ◼ ► or some other country that speaks a variant of British English instead of relinquish. I love you please you know Casey. [TS]
00:20:06 ◼ ► So if you speak some some variant of British English you probably pronounce it over with more more of an O. [TS]
00:20:18 ◼ ► but anyway cover which is the correct way to pronounce it is the best way to buy and manage domain names. [TS]
00:20:25 ◼ ► Cover gives you exactly what you need to get the job done you want to get a new name for yourself your site your [TS]
00:20:30 ◼ ► business a new fun project or even if you're just buying a dot coffee domain to troll me. Whatever you're doing. [TS]
00:20:41 ◼ ► There are a lot of the main stars out there I've tried many of them myself I have not been very happy with most of them [TS]
00:20:52 ◼ ► and beautiful they have all the utilities you can imagine you know they have all these all these built in features that [TS]
00:20:57 ◼ ► you want to pay extra for like they give you Demain privacy built in they don't they don't feel like nickel [TS]
00:21:04 ◼ ► and you don't like uncheck ten ten different boxes to say like please don't spam me please don't publicize my [TS]
00:21:12 ◼ ► No I don't want your additional ten hosting packages thank you very much like it's just simple. [TS]
00:21:18 ◼ ► The interface is nice it's respectful it's respectful of your time and its respect for all of your money. [TS]
00:21:23 ◼ ► It's a very good value so they also have amazing twenty four seven phone support you can just call them if you want [TS]
00:21:29 ◼ ► and you can also do the usual things you can email them they have knowledge base isn't up online [TS]
00:21:35 ◼ ► and a person a real person who works for Harper over cover overtaxed picks up the phone and they can help you. [TS]
00:21:47 ◼ ► There's no hold no weight and no transfers. They use paper phone and help you it's amazing. [TS]
00:22:00 ◼ ► Also they have this fantastic service called Valley transfer service where if you have a bunch of domain somewhere else [TS]
00:22:06 ◼ ► or even multiple different areas so you have a bunch of domains you've collected in like you know three different [TS]
00:22:16 ◼ ► and they will do everything correctly they will import your D N A scrappy because I mean it is very hard to do without [TS]
00:22:22 ◼ ► making a mistake every time a kid like everyone has messed a pianist at some point he has tried to move to Maine [TS]
00:22:28 ◼ ► and they will do all this for you is really fantastic so hope is great I really can't say it any better than that. [TS]
00:22:37 ◼ ► and also for sponsoring our show if you do decide to support them. Use or coupon code for this week. [TS]
00:22:43 ◼ ► It is necessary but not sufficient that if you so if you can actually remember and spell all of that necessary [TS]
00:22:59 ◼ ► and don't forget to use offer could necessary but not sufficient to get ten percent off your first purchase [TS]
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00:23:13 ◼ ► and you're still running what that people are talking about with the alternate presentation the best word I can think [TS]
00:23:18 ◼ ► of that's a sound alike that I think most Americans will pronounce in the Santa like way is a small crappy house a [TS]
00:23:37 ◼ ► The thing that kills me about this whole presentation of it is that all the people who wrote us were so incensed in a [TS]
00:23:44 ◼ ► way that they wouldn't be if if we you know if we said like just just think of any other word you can say in a British [TS]
00:23:52 ◼ ► and British English sound different we all know they sound different their words they say different than us you know [TS]
00:23:56 ◼ ► there's always some like oh you just don't have an accent you're not saying like I don't think. [TS]
00:24:00 ◼ ► When you think of words I was different in and British English than regular like we all accept all these other words [TS]
00:24:06 ◼ ► but this one is like you're not just being with an American accent you are saying the word wrong [TS]
00:24:11 ◼ ► and you're saying we're going to break if you play with Ray do you think the British people haven't seen enough [TS]
00:24:22 ◼ ► when everybody know that everyone who wrote in so by the way I'm in third British colony here that's not America. [TS]
00:24:29 ◼ ► The only people need to get together and add a tearless with like a lift in a lorry and torch [TS]
00:24:34 ◼ ► and all those things the list of things and everyone I'll tell you there this is one more way than American [TS]
00:24:41 ◼ ► and it is not a bunch of American people mispronouncing a word we just speak differently. [TS]
00:24:46 ◼ ► Right so we have to go from a from this to a bunch of genuinely sad news and I'm not trying to be funny anymore. [TS]
00:24:54 ◼ ► There was some really really really unfortunate news today about about Macworld and I speak for all three of us [TS]
00:25:03 ◼ ► and saying that we have a whole bunch of friends that work or I guess worked at Macworld [TS]
00:25:17 ◼ ► and I've been so lucky not not to have ever been through that although John I think you had said you had [TS]
00:25:22 ◼ ► and so maybe you can talk about that in a second but these are really really really really awesome people [TS]
00:25:28 ◼ ► and a couple of them a Verdes been moving in the direction new things anyway and so very thankful for that [TS]
00:25:37 ◼ ► and even to someone who never really read all that much Macworld I'm still disappointed by because I know what it meant [TS]
00:25:45 ◼ ► to the community and its and its strength and and I feel real bad for all of our friends. [TS]
00:25:53 ◼ ► Yeah there's more probably more significant for old people like me because I grew up reading these paper before the [TS]
00:26:00 ◼ ► We're magazines about the mackintosh mac user a MacWorld magazine from from the beginning and a lot of the the names [TS]
00:26:11 ◼ ► or came from that user which I also read mac user was mild Favre back in the day because it was probably friendlier to [TS]
00:26:18 ◼ ► you know eleven and twelve year old me or whatever age I was when I was reading that [TS]
00:26:25 ◼ ► and then in charge of even more things at the parent company of Macworld the pretty much everybody almost everybody [TS]
00:26:32 ◼ ► that I knew and almost the entire staff of backroad magazine got laid off which sucks. [TS]
00:26:46 ◼ ► when I feel like the company is going down the drain I start looking for something out else [TS]
00:26:50 ◼ ► and I get out before I actually get laid off. But that is not you would think that's a better way to do it. [TS]
00:26:56 ◼ ► It's not really like doing it's exactly the same thing because basically you're in a situation where you realize your [TS]
00:27:07 ◼ ► but you have to do the whole thing with like I don't want any job I enjoy my job I like the people I work with. [TS]
00:27:13 ◼ ► But now I need to get a new job and it's it's a terrible feeling no matter how it happens and it's probably even worse. [TS]
00:27:20 ◼ ► Although this has never happened to me to just come into work one day and say guess what you know job anymore sorry. [TS]
00:27:31 ◼ ► I wish the company the parent company runs macro could have figured out how to make a successful business from this. [TS]
00:27:39 ◼ ► It's difficult to make that transition from you know the old world where they were dominant paper amazing to newer [TS]
00:27:47 ◼ ► A bit like they had all the pieces they had all the talent they had all the people it wasn't a bunch of old fogies [TS]
00:27:51 ◼ ► there like it was they had a complete age range of people who knew what they were doing who are savvy with all the [TS]
00:28:08 ◼ ► and you suffer for it right because it's not it's not these people's job to make the company you know figure out how [TS]
00:28:21 ◼ ► or whatever their individual jobs are they could be doing their jobs amazingly well and I think they were. [TS]
00:28:27 ◼ ► It doesn't matter because they don't get make the decisions about what the company does [TS]
00:28:31 ◼ ► and that in the end is what ended up costing them their jobs that's just the way of the world. [TS]
00:28:38 ◼ ► when they're out there in the marketplace now if you're thinking of hiring these people. [TS]
00:28:43 ◼ ► So there is you know just talk about the you know paper or print magazines being sort of a thing of the past [TS]
00:28:49 ◼ ► and having to make that transition there are some aspects of that world that are I think still valuable [TS]
00:29:01 ◼ ► or anything like that these things came up in the time where part of the excitement of that is you type whatever you [TS]
00:29:09 ◼ ► want to do but no went out and millions of people can read it and it was much less formal [TS]
00:29:26 ◼ ► and I think more professional because I make it sound like the Web sites aren't professional they are just a different [TS]
00:29:31 ◼ ► Right and the people who work or work for Macworld are the people who know how to work in that environment [TS]
00:29:39 ◼ ► and like for example if there was some writer working for Macworld and wrote something crazy [TS]
00:29:49 ◼ ► and just being terrible that wouldn't get out in MacWorld Macworld and I said like a family magazine [TS]
00:29:55 ◼ ► but like that's not that wasn't done in the print world you didn't just have someone just go off and I crazy answers. [TS]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Then she added rant and you wouldn't publish that because paper pages are precious [TS]
00:30:08 ◼ ► but suddenly the people who are used to writing in that environment are now different. [TS]
00:30:13 ◼ ► Now they are the oddball now they are the interesting unique thing because there are tons of them say that they were [TS]
00:30:19 ◼ ► blessed with sort of a less formal process and more sort of raw exposed writing these people know how to write. [TS]
00:30:33 ◼ ► but it's not really very much the professionals that were there own thing you know [TS]
00:30:38 ◼ ► and you feel like these are adults writing for adults in a mature manner that is considered and and well written [TS]
00:30:49 ◼ ► And that's something that I think needs to be part of the current sort of stew of tech kernel is [TS]
00:30:59 ◼ ► Some publications skew one way or the other like not everything is like you know Buzz Feed [TS]
00:31:05 ◼ ► but the people coming out of Macworld know how to do that if you want somebody who knows how to do that these are the [TS]
00:31:13 ◼ ► people and I think that skill is much more rare than somebody who knows how to just bang out. [TS]
00:31:17 ◼ ► I tried the I watch and it was consequently I watch a drug deal was really cool and shiny [TS]
00:31:23 ◼ ► and like there's a place that I'm not saying that's bad like people like to read that is exciting [TS]
00:31:28 ◼ ► but they don't feel like we have much more of that now than we have macro in that world sort of not entirely going [TS]
00:31:33 ◼ ► where the print magazine is going over the web that's going to be all those people who are writing all those words. [TS]
00:31:41 ◼ ► I hope they find someplace to write in to put their skills that they've gained those hard earned skills they've gained [TS]
00:31:48 ◼ ► to use because I think that type of voice needs to be part of the tech journalism ecosystem. [TS]
00:32:00 ◼ ► As for second was that they actually published something I was a part of which was extraordinarily exciting [TS]
00:32:10 ◼ ► I'm a published magazine writer sort of ish kind but nevertheless it was extremely cool [TS]
00:32:17 ◼ ► and like I say everyone I've met there's just so phenomenally awesome and I'm really bummed I'm Bumford all of them [TS]
00:32:24 ◼ ► but I'm also happy because I'm sure I'm absolutely unequivocally confident that they are all going to find some new [TS]
00:32:34 ◼ ► That's a better word because I don't want to say professional because it makes it sound like the websites are [TS]
00:32:37 ◼ ► professional they totally are like formal it formal or family friendly. I don't know. [TS]
00:32:44 ◼ ► Considered like I mean I think it's a hybrid because this macro grew like the shame that came right after the Apple [TS]
00:32:53 ◼ ► and they would file tons of stories well written corrects you know fact check to researched just like in amazing speed [TS]
00:33:02 ◼ ► especially like I was always amazed by how fast everyone can write well they're like everyone on their staff can only [TS]
00:33:10 ◼ ► and they were all well written for someone like me who really struggles to get any words out that I that I find [TS]
00:33:15 ◼ ► remotely acceptable I was always amazed they could just be like oh I'm going to write a story that I got half an hour [TS]
00:33:21 ◼ ► and I got an image to like Magic's like watching magic happen because their professionals like like you know you you [TS]
00:33:27 ◼ ► but you rare You very rarely write what you write is one big thing a year whereas they do this every day like this is [TS]
00:33:33 ◼ ► this is their job their job is to to write in that way to that quality to that standard like that [TS]
00:33:42 ◼ ► And other websites like everyone said i'm are those that are technical you know MacRumors as they all do it it's just [TS]
00:33:51 ◼ ► or the very least it is now a rarity what was once like the only way you could write about technology you know every [TS]
00:34:01 ◼ ► So what I'm saying is I just hope that that stays in the mix somewhere you know I was I want someplace where I can read [TS]
00:34:06 ◼ ► stuff like that like this I'd Macworld with my rotation of things that I would read I have tabs open with macro stories [TS]
00:34:12 ◼ ► right now like for you know things from a tenor view because they've done the whole bunch of previews [TS]
00:34:19 ◼ ► or want to give their point of view on things like this like it's just I want to do [TS]
00:34:22 ◼ ► when it's not there you know it's going to disappointing. Yeah they also like they're leaving behind. [TS]
00:34:27 ◼ ► This is very much like a real world impact in this technology world like like Macworld magazine is the only magazine of [TS]
00:34:38 ◼ ► Ever been written I've ever written something that was in print if you don't time anybody else has ever paid me to [TS]
00:34:43 ◼ ► write something I wrote one thing for one issue of Macworld and that was a huge honor. [TS]
00:34:49 ◼ ► I also have in the corner of my office a macro to Eddie trophy for into paper from once you begin to believe it has [TS]
00:34:59 ◼ ► when you get a macro to Eddie it's like there are any will Editor's Choice Awards it is it is this tremendous heavy [TS]
00:35:11 ◼ ► and it can't come in the big box weighs a ton. It's great it was nice like physical artifact. [TS]
00:35:16 ◼ ► This big trophy of something you did in the virtual world that you don't usually get a real life impact for you know [TS]
00:35:23 ◼ ► and that's nice and I like when I was printed in a magazine my grandparents went out [TS]
00:35:30 ◼ ► and like showed all of her friends like you know it's like this is like without old publications like Macworld it's [TS]
00:35:55 ◼ ► when Macworld an accusation through the use of printers and they would show magnified versions of this. [TS]
00:36:03 ◼ ► and you'd have like it's kind of like the peer review is today her diary for you to see like an entire page spread of [TS]
00:36:08 ◼ ► like of Little Sarah sent a letter to me with all the different printers you could see which printed in the Sarah [TS]
00:36:18 ◼ ► Like I mean it's that you know it's the same era as a slow steady decline of paper obligations Weatherby newspaper [TS]
00:36:23 ◼ ► paper writing that everything else just seems like under different or better leadership. [TS]
00:36:30 ◼ ► and the skills to make the transition into a viable Web site like all the other tech web sites it's just that just [TS]
00:36:39 ◼ ► Well and I mean no matter how you do it it's a it's a hard business I mean you know I ran a magazine briefly [TS]
00:36:45 ◼ ► and then even even that even running a small i Pad a magazine that had no full time staff [TS]
00:36:54 ◼ ► and then you know had no print edition had no photographers No half of an editor first [TS]
00:37:00 ◼ ► and a full editor like I had I was doing it on such a tiny scale and it was really hard to make that work. [TS]
00:37:07 ◼ ► Even with like almost no overhead with no no history no old obligations like nothing like that [TS]
00:37:18 ◼ ► I know this and even as you know running my own web site and seeing other people run their websites [TS]
00:37:23 ◼ ► and I know the economics of this are challenging and it's very easy to be a hobbyist or part timer in this field. [TS]
00:37:34 ◼ ► It is very hard to have a big company you can afford to hire other people full time [TS]
00:37:39 ◼ ► and do things properly do things well to do the professional journalist standards it is extremely hard to fund that [TS]
00:37:48 ◼ ► and I think you can look around and see how few places are that way and how well they're doing [TS]
00:37:53 ◼ ► and you can kind of see that you know this well you know I don't know the Macworld management I don't know how they [TS]
00:38:01 ◼ ► but I would say that under any management this probably would've still happened. And it's just really crummy. [TS]
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00:41:48 ◼ ► You know be able to take advantage of those prescription lenses anyway so there's an Apple event that we almost saw [TS]
00:41:54 ◼ ► that we almost saw and then we saw it in multiple languages all at once. Can we just start. [TS]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Saying that all start by saying that I'm so disappointed that this story that some of this post [TS]
00:42:05 ◼ ► and someone wrote about what they think caused Apple streaming problems is just pester on everywhere [TS]
00:42:11 ◼ ► and I'm sided like no not you too if you saw a story today trying to explain what Apple streaming is woes were chances [TS]
00:42:39 ◼ ► So I find it is what it was talking about like the interactive blog stuff in the Jays on things like there were no bits [TS]
00:42:45 ◼ ► of truth in there but none like there was no inside information and the speculation didn't make any sense [TS]
00:42:51 ◼ ► and everyone ran it like he was an explanation of why Apple streaming sucked it did not explain it very well at all. [TS]
00:43:04 ◼ ► We don't know why they screwed up Apple's done streaming many times in the past and not screwed up. [TS]
00:43:11 ◼ ► They screwed up although I will say you know since I don't trust their streams will ever be good. [TS]
00:43:24 ◼ ► You know regularly and among those three or three of those I always had a stream that was working. [TS]
00:43:36 ◼ ► when we got to the good part everything was solid they had serious problems with their A.V. [TS]
00:43:41 ◼ ► Stuff but I was happy that all those technical difficulties happen in like the first half an hour forty minutes [TS]
00:43:47 ◼ ► when they got to the big announcement Everything was I think we're I mean let's talk about what they announced because [TS]
00:43:54 ◼ ► Three sort of the very beginning with the intro video I give a thumbs down to the injured VIDEO I'M SO PROUD. [TS]
00:44:09 ◼ ► and it actually worked this time a lot of what happened during the presentation made me just kind of cringe [TS]
00:44:17 ◼ ► and do the thing in like the beginning in trivia when they first did it I don't know I could tell you to read D.C. [TS]
00:44:46 ◼ ► I'm really enjoying watching the fans of the Galaxy S four was that you know now you know I dare you to avoid it [TS]
00:44:56 ◼ ► but anyway I didn't like this in two think it's because the specific in her video the interview with the dots that they [TS]
00:45:01 ◼ ► showed seven times I thought that was fantastic it was short it was to the point that the first three times it was [TS]
00:45:06 ◼ ► great. There's a point it's clever it makes its point in both words and in know in midges. [TS]
00:45:13 ◼ ► This one was a really long was showing us a trick that we've all seen from that OK Go video [TS]
00:45:18 ◼ ► and audio is apparently I'll post about that by the way if you haven't seen the video we're talking about it's at the [TS]
00:45:24 ◼ ► Those things where you look at you look at a room from a certain angle and all the little markings on the floor [TS]
00:45:28 ◼ ► and wall lined up to make it look like text that's you know sort of floating in front of you the whole bunch of like [TS]
00:45:33 ◼ ► real world physical optical illusions that they bring the camera through anyway like it just dragged on [TS]
00:45:40 ◼ ► and the things that was saying in the little words were just it wasn't it wasn't as tight it was you know it just you [TS]
00:45:47 ◼ ► know Anyway I think having interview you'll find especially in an event like this it's so important that the whole [TS]
00:45:52 ◼ ► Apple Watch being introduced and I think having in Germany was appropriate This isn't a great one. [TS]
00:46:00 ◼ ► I think it was just boring like you know we have to realize that what we're watching here this is a marketing event [TS]
00:46:19 ◼ ► and see it as like this great exciting event and actually really get into it and get into like the fun [TS]
00:46:36 ◼ ► when it like moments like that I thought or when that when there are two video heavy in general in the keynote or [TS]
00:46:41 ◼ ► when they're like here we're going to show you three commercials we've made like I don't like the movie showing off the [TS]
00:46:47 ◼ ► commercials and that's you know like it's like it helps contribute to breaking that illusion [TS]
00:46:53 ◼ ► and to reminding us that we're watching a two hour long commercial rather than the way we probably like to think of it [TS]
00:46:59 ◼ ► as an exciting announcement for our industry in the future of our society using these devices like that's how that's [TS]
00:47:12 ◼ ► and marketing messages I think this I think it breaks out a little bit I think it really depends on the thing. [TS]
00:47:17 ◼ ► Sometimes the show is a commercial and especially one of Steve Jobs. It's thirty thirty seconds they're usually funny. [TS]
00:47:25 ◼ ► and he was always so excited to show you whatever commercial he was excited about the videos where it's some talking [TS]
00:47:30 ◼ ► head on a white background telling you about what they had to do to design the whatever part of the whatever those [TS]
00:47:38 ◼ ► And they spend a lot of time on I think carb writing one in two keynote is a reasonable thing to do. [TS]
00:48:03 ◼ ► and lines video it seemed just like a bunch of weird platitudes that did not did not connect in a way the other video [TS]
00:48:13 ◼ ► or things that we were going to believe after seeing the thing it just ended up you know I don't think they'll ever [TS]
00:48:22 ◼ ► and not in trivia was nowhere near as bad as the infomercial that was in the center of the presentation board get to [TS]
00:48:29 ◼ ► that later. Which one the watch one. Here's how you pay with a credit card in OH MY GOD IT'S SO HARD. [TS]
00:48:36 ◼ ► That was actually funny at least all now it was not I think it was unintentionally funny [TS]
00:48:42 ◼ ► but less along all right so let's talk about the i Phones which was the first thing they announced the i Phone six [TS]
00:48:50 ◼ ► miners impression six and six plus excuse me my national presence it's bigger me remind me of this [TS]
00:49:11 ◼ ► but take it from me as an ipod touch owner with a portrait England for many years it's not as bad as you think it is [TS]
00:49:17 ◼ ► it's fine you'll be OK trust me. Yeah I think it's one of those things like that you know I did see. [TS]
00:49:26 ◼ ► but I totally forgot what I saw there was a series of tweets by somebody that was repeated a million times [TS]
00:49:30 ◼ ► and eventually got to me where it was like you know the entire world is asking for better battery life. [TS]
00:49:49 ◼ ► but I wish the battery lasted longer anyway I think you know what I mean I don't think it's battery life for the five [TS]
00:50:00 ◼ ► It's getting thinner if you really care get a giant phone the most noteworthy thing about the i Phone part is that once [TS]
00:50:06 ◼ ► again all the parts leaks were dead on the only thing that people didn't know where the resolutions which Gruber had [TS]
00:50:14 ◼ ► obsessed over and he got one right and one wrong and the whole sapphire screen thing. [TS]
00:50:21 ◼ ► The screen has some kind of coating on it I figure what word they're using for it they said like an ion deposit it's [TS]
00:50:26 ◼ ► green or something right it probably is the screen they were testing in all those videos you know [TS]
00:50:30 ◼ ► but it's not made of sapphire or in there for their sapphire and Apple didn't mention it. [TS]
00:50:40 ◼ ► Otherwise they're going to be really showed up in all those different parts leagues [TS]
00:50:44 ◼ ► and I have all things one of the eight we didn't know much about we still don't know much about I assume that the [TS]
00:50:50 ◼ ► Do you guys all know that's what I've heard I mean maybe I don't know I think I feel like I would have heard about it [TS]
00:50:59 ◼ ► It's tweaked because like the speed increase was like fifteen percent or twenty percent it's not like [TS]
00:51:03 ◼ ► when the seven came out today this is twice as fast. They fix is not that kind of lead the G.P.U. [TS]
00:51:08 ◼ ► Makes a big leap but it's always easier to make a bigger leap with G.P.U. Because you just add more units. [TS]
00:51:14 ◼ ► It's twenty nanometer which good that sort of you know of the same like Intel is going to forking enemy with Broadwell [TS]
00:51:25 ◼ ► but Intel's previous processes twenty two nanometers So this is kind of like it's a big leap up from twenty eight. [TS]
00:51:33 ◼ ► So these look like good phones the camera with extra optical stabilization all that other stuff. [TS]
00:51:40 ◼ ► The purity Like I said will be a big deal especially if people use cases protruding Well actually be a non issue [TS]
00:51:47 ◼ ► Also the optical establishes only in the big one and what I thought was interesting was when they were. [TS]
00:51:53 ◼ ► when they were describing the optical image stabilization how it work they said it uses the M seven and the C.P.U. [TS]
00:52:02 ◼ ► Now I don't see I don't know how optical stabilization works in point and shoots but I do know how it works in S.L.R. [TS]
00:52:09 ◼ ► Is absolutely stabilisation is like the lens element itself spins and it loses how Canon's works [TS]
00:52:17 ◼ ► and so like it has its own gyroscopic effect so that the movement is instantaneous and so it's awesome. [TS]
00:52:23 ◼ ► I can't imagine if if it's shifting the element around it like using software to sense gyroscopic input [TS]
00:52:38 ◼ ► and it's probably like you know the the things that are moving at first was not moving it much right. [TS]
00:52:49 ◼ ► So the thing they showed in the video is obviously crazily exaggerated likely to move up and down [TS]
00:52:54 ◼ ► and you know it's more like a barely visible vibration I would assume it's obvious it's not going to be good at optical [TS]
00:53:04 ◼ ► Probably know they're doing what they can to try to make it so that if they have to leave the shutter open a little [TS]
00:53:08 ◼ ► or because it's dark you don't get as much like Don't expect miracles from this is still a camera the size of them all. [TS]
00:53:14 ◼ ► So yeah I think so and if in only the big one now have you guys done the printed out paper things of course [TS]
00:53:22 ◼ ► but I thought you did I did not I was going to wait so I print out the paper I will into an issue not of you know where. [TS]
00:53:33 ◼ ► So before you print this out I was saying you know what if the big one has a better camera I'll just get the big one [TS]
00:53:40 ◼ ► because I having a better camera important to me and if it has any other major improvements I'll get the big one. [TS]
00:54:00 ◼ ► Wow like it is so big that if I hold it the way I usually hold a phone which is a hole in my left hand corner of the [TS]
00:54:06 ◼ ► phone is resting on my palm finger thereafter on the right side on the left side I can't reach the home button. [TS]
00:54:15 ◼ ► Like that's how I keep my thumb can't reach the home button. OK that's a good point. [TS]
00:54:19 ◼ ► Like it's crazy like even even there like their thing that drops a screen down reachability that's the reason that [TS]
00:54:30 ◼ ► Yeah that's not a great I mean I guess it's better than like putting it in a corner I guess is better than trigonometry [TS]
00:54:39 ◼ ► but people don't use those giant phones that way I've seen a lot of people use and write and they don't use them. [TS]
00:54:46 ◼ ► or you're holding it in landscaping using your thumb to type or the use two handed [TS]
00:54:53 ◼ ► and with the stylus knows no styles of this and you can buy aftermarket ones in fact. [TS]
00:54:59 ◼ ► It's very strange it's not they're not using it the way you're using it you're trying to use it like a traditional i [TS]
00:55:05 ◼ ► and it's totally awkward that way another one handed mode thing that is a very pragmatic solution. [TS]
00:55:14 ◼ ► The worth I think it might do is encourage people to think they can use it that way because that's not going to save [TS]
00:55:20 ◼ ► you the little double top on bottom of slide down of my going to save you from it like you said you came here to the [TS]
00:55:26 ◼ ► I feel like the people who know they want this phone already are handling giant phones like this like [TS]
00:55:36 ◼ ► when the i Pad came out I came in wrap my head around this thing my hands are you don't hold it that way you don't use [TS]
00:55:54 ◼ ► Oh yeah I mean obviously this could be different you get it in your hand but the paper. [TS]
00:56:00 ◼ ► Types make it make it it makes it so that I am definitely going to get the four point seven And so [TS]
00:56:05 ◼ ► and let me let me tell you why I also like this is why it was also easier for me to make this decision. [TS]
00:56:10 ◼ ► And just like if I can pre-order it which actually I can't because of stupid upgrade eligibility anyway. [TS]
00:56:15 ◼ ► I'm going to five seven the four point seven I'm not going to try to try to get both the return want to try to get the [TS]
00:56:25 ◼ ► The reason why is twofold number one it's not like this is the only year we're going to have this size four point seven [TS]
00:56:31 ◼ ► is already a huge great so let me go to that first and then see if that's big enough [TS]
00:56:39 ◼ ► Second the five point five is so big and will be and it's so poor for single handed use. [TS]
00:56:47 ◼ ► Apparently I was thinking from it that I feel like it will do better in a world where the watch is commonplace because [TS]
00:56:57 ◼ ► of the watch will will in many situations in which you'd be taking your phone having used one hand if you have to like [TS]
00:57:05 ◼ ► That's like walking the dogs at my pet like that's a situation where you'd use your phone one hand to do something [TS]
00:57:10 ◼ ► quick. The watch will presumably eliminate a lot of those needs take the phone your pocket for that kind of situation. [TS]
00:57:19 ◼ ► And so I'm thinking the the five point five might make more sense to get next year because the watch isn't even going [TS]
00:57:30 ◼ ► That probably means April you know and a half or maybe later if it's if that's if it's on time. [TS]
00:57:35 ◼ ► It might mean June you know we don't know and then the next i Phones will be out next September probably. [TS]
00:57:47 ◼ ► I think the bigger firms will be more palatable to more people it might be a better tradeoff because like I would like [TS]
00:57:55 ◼ ► I would like a big screen when I'm using certain things I'm reading certain things. [TS]
00:58:04 ◼ ► but because I thought to keep taking out of my pockets do all sorts of one handed thing so often that's going to be a [TS]
00:58:15 ◼ ► Let's agree made this is an easy I been getting sixty four for the last few revisions of the device only because thirty [TS]
00:58:25 ◼ ► I've never I've never filled up as if to get device reasonably so make you going to sixty four now it's two hundred [TS]
00:58:30 ◼ ► bucks cheaper I think. And John I'm curious what do you think of the new capacities and pricing. [TS]
00:58:38 ◼ ► I didn't predict it is a very clever way to succumb to the realities of reduced parts prices over the years like Apple [TS]
00:58:51 ◼ ► and sixty four gigs of lash of their required spec somehow has not changed in price unlike the however many years they [TS]
00:59:02 ◼ ► and they used anywhere they have just been way too long you know like our writer right here is a wonder [TS]
00:59:06 ◼ ► when he made his sixty four but the lower model six sixteen seems punitive like I said it's like the RAM thing. [TS]
00:59:13 ◼ ► I think this is a decision made by people who are worried about Apple's margins more than they're worried about Apple's [TS]
00:59:22 ◼ ► customer experience and other things you can't have a sixteen or even an eight for people who want it [TS]
00:59:29 ◼ ► and make it the cheapest one is going to drive a lot of people who are price sensitive into a phone that does not have [TS]
00:59:38 ◼ ► and it will be as I have a sixteen I never thought that's fine it's great it's just that because it's a low end model. [TS]
00:59:43 ◼ ► People are going to say I don't you know they're going to say I have no idea what a gigabyte is the cheapest phone. [TS]
00:59:49 ◼ ► So then they don't realize that they're that have a person to take tons of video you know [TS]
00:59:54 ◼ ► or want to put a lot you know they don't know what their usage is in sixteen I can tell you in even moderate usage. [TS]
01:00:00 ◼ ► If you fill it up with like videos you take yourself and pictures and a couple of movies that you buy [TS]
01:00:07 ◼ ► and a lot of the apps especially games which can be gigantic You can fill sixteen really quickly right. [TS]
01:00:15 ◼ ► and there's really like there's no price justification for that sixteen that sixteen could have been a thirty two which [TS]
01:00:21 ◼ ► and it's a big deal because the actress sixteen is all storage whereas the original sixteen part of that is by the O. [TS]
01:00:27 ◼ ► and All the other stuff so I think there's going to be an ever so slightly larger group of people who are disappointed [TS]
01:00:34 ◼ ► because they are price sensitive they can afford thirty two we don't want to pay it and they either don't know [TS]
01:00:41 ◼ ► or have that they're going to fill sixteen or have no choice but to try to fit their stuff in a sixty [TS]
01:00:45 ◼ ► and that's not a good experience because I us generally does not behave well when it's out of storage [TS]
01:00:51 ◼ ► Maybe the deleting of you know the the auto deleting a message attachments might you say save will help a little bit in [TS]
01:00:58 ◼ ► this regard for storage sizes but it's really disappointing to me especially like in the in the six. [TS]
01:01:03 ◼ ► Like if they're going to do that on the five or something or one of the other or the five C. [TS]
01:01:08 ◼ ► but like I understand you have to have that in both for the flagship six line to go sixteen sixty four one twenty eight [TS]
01:01:15 ◼ ► that sixteen really sticks in my craw did not like it. Yeah I wonder I wonder if they wouldn't mid cycle bump it up. [TS]
01:01:26 ◼ ► but yet it just looks like it's growing you like it it doesn't look it looks it looks like a cheap move [TS]
01:01:32 ◼ ► and they're like they're differentiating on that's what they chose a different Yeah like that. [TS]
01:01:46 ◼ ► You know if they're going to get back to Earth then this thing will be made with a millimetre thick [TS]
01:01:54 ◼ ► but I mean you really have to be exist so it's not as important as it is in the i Pad I really hope the next I bet it [TS]
01:02:08 ◼ ► and all of us not like there's a dedicated pool of of the RAM hanging off the side of this thing you know so the RAM [TS]
01:02:20 ◼ ► but I mean how long can we keep this up how how long do we go with with one gig this is got to be the last generation [TS]
01:02:34 ◼ ► or Of that they're going to call it has to be the RAM except for in the lower model which has sixty pigs a flash [TS]
01:02:43 ◼ ► Yeah that's what do you differentiate they come in colors but those those all cost the same. [TS]
01:02:49 ◼ ► They use the storage sizes as their tearing structure for making you pay more money and to help their margins [TS]
01:02:56 ◼ ► Yeah the screen size to this mean size I don't think that using screens eyes were tearing because a bigger screen just [TS]
01:03:05 ◼ ► but that's kind of like their increment you know I mean like well you know the theory especially since like people will [TS]
01:03:14 ◼ ► pay more for a larger told it like they understand you will pay more money because it's bigger [TS]
01:03:17 ◼ ► and has a bigger screen that's does that's a thing that people already accept storage sizes kind of like the thing that [TS]
01:03:23 ◼ ► they will differentiate on that people don't really understand like people don't even know the difference in RAM [TS]
01:03:27 ◼ ► and flash storage and as of this is what we're going to use our dial to make you pay more money. [TS]
01:03:31 ◼ ► So John if you were to get an i Phone which I am assuming that you have no interest in still hypothetically which model [TS]
01:03:39 ◼ ► would you be getting I have a lot of interest that they don't ever have to hit the high potential. [TS]
01:03:53 ◼ ► Well I will I'm going to have to wait until they get into the store I'm going to pre-order [TS]
01:03:56 ◼ ► and then I got I have to wait until they get into the store have to try to my auntie was like I really do. [TS]
01:04:07 ◼ ► and I like the idea of how I think it's going to feel in my hand because of the rounded edges so I I like this is I [TS]
01:04:17 ◼ ► and if I do read the part that presumably it will be big anyway so the size may not be a factor because you know like I [TS]
01:04:25 ◼ ► won't have a choice like I can't give using this this all but if I touch the batteries get a little wonky. [TS]
01:04:30 ◼ ► So wait so all three of us agree that this one that we can choose would be sixty four again equal presumably different [TS]
01:04:38 ◼ ► colors but sixty four gig four point seven inch i Phone six. Now we don't have the same color black. [TS]
01:04:44 ◼ ► Oh I thought Marco you know why one tip has a white one and I was considering white and then I didn't get it [TS]
01:04:54 ◼ ► but in the five S The new space gray color it's more like a gunmetal color that's that's very nice I like that a lot. [TS]
01:05:04 ◼ ► Now one thing I like to quickly talk about is do we know it is tiff going to upgrade [TS]
01:05:10 ◼ ► and do we know what she's going to get because I saw a lot of tweets fly by about her trying on the paper cutouts in [TS]
01:05:21 ◼ ► I was curious to how she concluded yet I don't think she has a lot to have her on some point maybe next week maybe next [TS]
01:05:32 ◼ ► but I would get you know the problem this is a problem that especially a lot of women are going to have if you've been [TS]
01:05:39 ◼ ► keeping your phone in your pocket because women's women's clothing usually if it has pockets at all which is not always [TS]
01:05:46 ◼ ► If it has pockets of I'll use it are smaller so Tiffany's keeps the pockets to keep your phone in her jeans [TS]
01:06:07 ◼ ► and even the four point seven no longer fits like it either stick out visibly at the top or like it [TS]
01:06:15 ◼ ► or you don't like put it in like it's only one pocket in such a way that it makes a giant longer tangle. [TS]
01:06:20 ◼ ► You know put long way than it's it's weird so I have a feeling this is going to be an issue especially for women. [TS]
01:06:29 ◼ ► I think what we're going to see how the market shakes out we're going to have to see how the cell [TS]
01:06:34 ◼ ► and Apple's going to have to see like I'm sure they're going to be looking at their stores to see how many people who [TS]
01:06:46 ◼ ► and you know I hope they're watching I'm sure they will because I'm guessing they're going to be a lot of people who [TS]
01:06:52 ◼ ► actually prefer the smaller size especially women. You mean you mean like the smaller than the five S. [TS]
01:07:01 ◼ ► Yeah I think they're going to sell a ton of the four point seven inch fixes that will be the wrestling mile kind of [TS]
01:07:11 ◼ ► and People seem surprised that my prediction for for this set of models is that the four point seven [TS]
01:07:17 ◼ ► and six six will be the best selling model really quickly a couple more thoughts on the i Phone Plus Firstly do you. [TS]
01:07:28 ◼ ► Do we call it i Phone Plus we sure did the i Phone math remember that they've always said it was likely a [TS]
01:07:35 ◼ ► mistranslation of i Phone Plus even the name leaked on this thing. Thank you so much. [TS]
01:07:42 ◼ ► Two years ago I am pretty proud of us for that this was February seventh of twenty thirteen. [TS]
01:07:48 ◼ ► But it's not the i Phone Plus that on six plus the technical weeding out try to get anywhere. [TS]
01:08:01 ◼ ► when you go to landscape on the i Phone six Plus you get a split view controller if if the app that you're using [TS]
01:08:08 ◼ ► supports that. How does that make you feel to have an i Pad That isn't an i Pad I think it's smart. [TS]
01:08:14 ◼ ► I mean I you know the i Phone First of all designing an app for i Phone landscape views has always been challenging [TS]
01:08:22 ◼ ► especially if you're to support text input because the i Phone landscape with a keyboard you have basically have no [TS]
01:08:31 ◼ ► and it's always been tricky to design the i Phone six Plus has so much space in both mentions [TS]
01:08:37 ◼ ► but especially in that high dimension it has so much space that if you see if you saw any other normal interface scaled [TS]
01:08:44 ◼ ► to that without the split view style it's going to look ridiculous a weirdly wide and short [TS]
01:08:50 ◼ ► and so I think I think what that what that's doing is just like it isn't necessarily like over going to bring the i Pad [TS]
01:08:56 ◼ ► To this I think it's more like we have to solve this really weird interface situation here. [TS]
01:09:04 ◼ ► And so that's where I think they're doing there with that like first of all it is a differentiator. [TS]
01:09:11 ◼ ► It is a way to get people to buy the bigger one to say look the apps are a little bit better in these ways you know so [TS]
01:09:17 ◼ ► but they alternately it's just about like how do we make apps not look weird on this you know all those although they [TS]
01:09:23 ◼ ► say talking about that after sizing saying we all know. I mean again talk about Apple eat this itself essentially. [TS]
01:09:28 ◼ ► Like we all knew it was coming they told us million sessions they were going to you know if you just watch this these [TS]
01:09:37 ◼ ► It's obvious what they're talking about and no one was surprised that oh hey look when you [TS]
01:09:42 ◼ ► when you wrote it in a different thing and suddenly this felt like they told you how to do that it seems strange [TS]
01:09:49 ◼ ► and if it was they were in an awkward situation where they had to tell developers how to adjust their layouts [TS]
01:09:55 ◼ ► or what we knew were going to be differently sized phones and one of the features was you know some elements might not. [TS]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Even appear with his compact array of the size class thing is right so the timing wise they must been weird for them to [TS]
01:10:13 ◼ ► or don't care about that stuff as much as we think they do in terms of what it requires for me as it was like oh if you [TS]
01:10:17 ◼ ► get the big phone you get the better stuff and they don't even know if it's the same app. [TS]
01:10:24 ◼ ► There's an i Pad No it's not an i Pad apps like they don't need to know anything about adaptive way of saying don't [TS]
01:10:31 ◼ ► Your experience is different specially like with the wired keyboard with that weird you know larger keys on the side [TS]
01:10:36 ◼ ► for doing doodles and the larger Moji key and whatever other things they had there. [TS]
01:10:42 ◼ ► The fact is those buttons are there is going to be a selling point like all of us will have to give over the little [TS]
01:10:46 ◼ ► buttons like I thought the people who want this big phone already know they want it [TS]
01:10:50 ◼ ► and this is all just going to be icing for them and Apple is wise to continue to evolve its E.U. [TS]
01:10:55 ◼ ► I took it for lack of a better word to handle differently sized screens they crept on a bit by bit [TS]
01:11:03 ◼ ► and now they're essentially entering a world where we can make we can make flat rectangular screens with rounded [TS]
01:11:10 ◼ ► and like this the only thing left is like that weird gap between i Pad and i Phone apps [TS]
01:11:16 ◼ ► and I wonder if eventual they'll get to the point is if you look at their products now if you line him up it's a series [TS]
01:11:21 ◼ ► of little rectangles the screens on them that scale nicely from really small to really big it's pretty smooth stairstep [TS]
01:11:27 ◼ ► and yet you have to draw this red line all this is an i Pad app and these are i Phone apps [TS]
01:11:32 ◼ ► and that red line will start to get thinner over the next few years because eventually it'll be like Look you're just [TS]
01:11:42 ◼ ► and there's no artificial distinction between the i Pad and i Phone app and you're not there yet [TS]
01:11:49 ◼ ► and you know I think I think there the message is that we do see could have been more clear on that front too it's it's [TS]
01:11:54 ◼ ► like you know you should your apps should stop caring about what they're running on i Pad or an i Phone. [TS]
01:12:00 ◼ ► And you know you should instead just you know read these collections of traits to know. [TS]
01:12:04 ◼ ► Oh well this is a small horizontal big vertical screen or something like that like and to respond [TS]
01:12:14 ◼ ► and you know Apple has been absolutely clear that is the way to go now and in the future [TS]
01:12:21 ◼ ► and the implication of course is because we're going to have the writing of hardware [TS]
01:12:25 ◼ ► and now we seem to be getting half of that I think we're going to continue to see that [TS]
01:12:29 ◼ ► when the new i Pads are announced and when if if that resizable apps thing becomes a part of the i Pad O. S. [TS]
01:12:38 ◼ ► and that's just as important that I mean the multitasking thing we split the screen and have one thing on the line [TS]
01:12:43 ◼ ► and if that ever shipped it's going to be an even bigger draw for this sort of thing [TS]
01:12:51 ◼ ► Those universal apps and use this kind of responses on a cook they couldn't be more clear about that [TS]
01:13:03 ◼ ► Yeah even even now just the i Phone six Plus next to an i Pad Mini trikes playing to a regular person that well this is [TS]
01:13:14 ◼ ► and it won't work at all like what what do you like these surprisingly the same things they are oh that's an i Pad This [TS]
01:13:19 ◼ ► is an i Phone They were like I don't because it makes phone calls they can't run the I don't understand [TS]
01:13:23 ◼ ► and yeah that's it you know the direction is clear that that confusion will be cleared up. [TS]
01:13:29 ◼ ► May be cleaned up sooner than we think for all we know the new i Pad come out of Apple says Oh [TS]
01:13:33 ◼ ► and by the way you can't ever a bloated i Pad only happen tomorrow you're out have to be that I think it's still a ways [TS]
01:13:39 ◼ ► off but like Apple could do that if they were in a hurry I don't think they're in a hurry [TS]
01:13:42 ◼ ► but it's this point it's silly that with the i Phone six Plus an i Pad Mini both in Apple's line into the division [TS]
01:13:49 ◼ ► between them makes no sense. Yeah all right let's make some money and talk about some money. [TS]
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01:16:10 ◼ ► Yes this is going to be really interesting I think. Like this is so you know first of all yes we all know that N.F.C. [TS]
01:16:19 ◼ ► Is not new that Apple isn't the first one to do this they will be the last ones to do this. [TS]
01:16:24 ◼ ► We know Andrew was there first we know probably things are there before Android even we know N.F.C. [TS]
01:16:32 ◼ ► Payment system is horrible and outdated and yes we still even use checks sometimes which is horrendous. [TS]
01:16:46 ◼ ► and I think if it does I think this might actually be more important than the lauch long term for Apple. [TS]
01:17:11 ◼ ► There will be a lot of also That's the question what makes anyone think this has any more chance of working [TS]
01:17:21 ◼ ► Well I think the the biggest reason first of all you know passbook was a tough sell because passbook didn't really [TS]
01:17:28 ◼ ► offer either side massive benefits. It's like it wasn't that easy or that much easier. [TS]
01:17:35 ◼ ► It didn't it was a pain to implement slightly you know because you had to do something instead of nothing so like you [TS]
01:17:45 ◼ ► and then like on the Zed there's like this weird af that they go in a kind of you know like find a link somewhere in [TS]
01:17:51 ◼ ► your confirmation e-mail as a download a passbook if they even had that which they usually didn't. [TS]
01:18:00 ◼ ► For all the work on both sides to be worth it for most people whereas for this I feel like you know if this actually [TS]
01:18:08 ◼ ► and granted the video was hilarious in how it like the doing it wrong side of the video that we hope that some of [TS]
01:18:17 ◼ ► No it was not comical it was embarrassing how bad it was I like when they asked for it she asked for ID [TS]
01:18:23 ◼ ► and a swipe of the mark on the first time two things that almost never happen. It was so it was so uncomfortable. [TS]
01:18:33 ◼ ► Like in like when when and Steve Jobs picture what phones look like with all the different keyboards that was fair. [TS]
01:18:38 ◼ ► Those were good publicity shots of those actual popular phones it was not finding the ugliest phones in the world [TS]
01:18:43 ◼ ► and putting it up to show how nice your looks and acts to it it was like These are the popular phones now [TS]
01:18:50 ◼ ► This was not a fair comparison this is like this does not accurately represent the inconvenience of using a credit card [TS]
01:18:58 ◼ ► Right in this that's the thing is that this is one of those parts of the keynote where I was just sitting there [TS]
01:19:04 ◼ ► and I wanted to crawl into a hole because it was so ridiculous I was like kind of embarrassed just watching it [TS]
01:19:13 ◼ ► but the thing of it is is that Apple keynote servants what we're calling this are usually so spot on and so good [TS]
01:19:21 ◼ ► and this was just awkward. I don't know most of it was great but this part was just really awkward. [TS]
01:19:31 ◼ ► but I asked that mostly just to you know to throw it out there I think this will be more successful than passbook [TS]
01:19:41 ◼ ► Like Mark I say we all know about chip cards we all know how backward you are yet. [TS]
01:19:45 ◼ ► Yes we live in America we care about our backwardness getting fixed not how awesome it is [TS]
01:19:49 ◼ ► and your amazing country anyway. So speak your language we move there if we did enter the room. [TS]
01:20:00 ◼ ► We're going to work is because of the the massive concentration of power in the U.S. [TS]
01:20:09 ◼ ► and few big credit card companies most of which Apple seems to have cut a deal with. [TS]
01:20:16 ◼ ► when Apple did a deal for i Tunes There's got like whatever the big five record labels of whatever they were like [TS]
01:20:20 ◼ ► that's all they need to do deals with because they covered it you know they covered most of the music people care about [TS]
01:20:25 ◼ ► whether Apple is doing deals that you know as a Mastercard Visa like Bank of America like they're just covering a huge [TS]
01:20:32 ◼ ► portion of the entire market just by doing deals with these gigantic companies that have [TS]
01:20:40 ◼ ► and concentration of wealth than in any way that we're not on the retail side too. [TS]
01:20:47 ◼ ► Is so much based on like the big chain stores that all you need are a handful of the big chains to have a massive [TS]
01:20:56 ◼ ► and then then you can start getting more support from the smaller people just because well we have all these people [TS]
01:21:01 ◼ ► using this you'll benefit from this model and that's what they need to make it work is you need to like. [TS]
01:21:06 ◼ ► It's not it's not the thing in the phone it's not the software it's not what it is is that stupid ugly reader thing [TS]
01:21:12 ◼ ► that is the most important part of this product as a solution for people is that stupid ugly reader thing that stupid [TS]
01:21:24 ◼ ► and millions of places that is the hard part of this project not the like you said people getting an obscene Phones [TS]
01:21:29 ◼ ► Like it's so easy to do all the other parts that the hard part is to cut the deal with all the people so they say use [TS]
01:21:35 ◼ ► Except our you know like payment tokens put these things and all of your stories like that is the hard part. [TS]
01:21:46 ◼ ► or even Google like we're going to scan every book in the world we're going to make self driving cars [TS]
01:21:49 ◼ ► or whatever this is one of the first things that I see an Apple sort of gets though into of saying we're going to try [TS]
01:21:54 ◼ ► to do this big thing doesn't work unless those little scanners are all over the place hooked up. [TS]
01:22:00 ◼ ► and so them cutting a deal with the big credit card companies so that your You'll be able to make something that you [TS]
01:22:08 ◼ ► or whatever that's one have it in the other half is getting the little scanners in a bunch of stores hooked up to those [TS]
01:22:15 ◼ ► and I think the amount of stuff they're there you know that they've announced in this deal is probably just barely [TS]
01:22:25 ◼ ► You need some kind of critical mass of this isn't going to become like the passbook game look at the world [TS]
01:22:32 ◼ ► and even if they do the airlines are kind of spotty in the beginning about whether that was their own people [TS]
01:22:36 ◼ ► or you know like is this really you really need to get some critical mass before intill this year for this to become [TS]
01:22:43 ◼ ► something that's that is more than just a curiosity that a bunch of rich people do in San Francisco [TS]
01:22:48 ◼ ► when they go to Whole Foods you know the timing of this is actually amazingly good because the U.S. [TS]
01:22:58 ◼ ► and pin ever since I believe it started out as the Target credit card act thing where like I apologize to whoever was [TS]
01:23:09 ◼ ► and forgot who was basically in the last couple years there been so many massive scale credit card hacks in the U.S. [TS]
01:23:16 ◼ ► Especially the big target one that like it's finally getting so expensive for the credit card processors to deal with [TS]
01:23:29 ◼ ► and it has gone up slightly with these hacks like but all it takes is for the far right to go [TS]
01:23:36 ◼ ► and die based on their you know terrible fees that they charge you with their grazing you know interest rates [TS]
01:23:44 ◼ ► and so the front goes up one percent that is enough for them to sell right finally we have to get rid of the student to [TS]
01:23:49 ◼ ► get extra stuff in like there is a big turnover in that type of that's the reason they drag their feet like everything [TS]
01:23:55 ◼ ► we have now is fine why would we invest in changing it. All you need is the froggery take a plug. [TS]
01:24:00 ◼ ► Percent or two and suddenly becomes economically feasible to go to something better. [TS]
01:24:04 ◼ ► And it's I suppose there's a competition between the the little chip things they have in the rest of the civilized [TS]
01:24:12 ◼ ► Exactly and that's why I think like because this shit is finally happening in the U.S. [TS]
01:24:17 ◼ ► And because you know you what you said over the concentration of power in the U.S. Being such that the U.S. [TS]
01:24:22 ◼ ► Is a fairly straight forward market to dominate if you can get a you know the handful of people on board. [TS]
01:24:28 ◼ ► That's why I think this has a very good chance of succeeding because all those credit card terminals all over the place [TS]
01:24:34 ◼ ► are going to have to get up there in the next few years anyway and so they're probably not going to cement support [TS]
01:24:39 ◼ ► Is wildly out there which now will be so do you think it will be socially awkward to do this to be early on in the [TS]
01:24:48 ◼ ► Apple Pay adoption. No I don't think so I figure I mean think of the convenience trumps everything. [TS]
01:24:56 ◼ ► Like do you remember when the little kiosk where yet so I have your own card for it came out. Oh yeah yeah. [TS]
01:25:06 ◼ ► Do you have one of those little dangly things that use of the gas stations you know to swipe your card. [TS]
01:25:11 ◼ ► I've had one of those for what ten fifteen years there are some you get one you never go back to the old way like [TS]
01:25:18 ◼ ► and this is the equivalent of that as soon as people can like rub some part of their purse [TS]
01:25:26 ◼ ► and you know what I mean like the convenience of just like the light is so much easier than the [TS]
01:25:34 ◼ ► and even though the video is ridiculous I go it's so hard to get cards out of all I was really expected eggshells that [TS]
01:25:39 ◼ ► crack on top of the person's hair and she's not going that like like from the commercial that it's on to the floor. [TS]
01:25:48 ◼ ► As silly as that is this is kind of like the whole I watch they were talking about before taking away the need to [TS]
01:25:55 ◼ ► romance through your purse to pull out the card to hand of the person to hand tobacco didn't show the part. [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Some places still make a do do stupid signature on the thing that's decreased a lot lately of the crimes I don't like [TS]
01:26:07 ◼ ► that little dance is not that inconvenient. But if you can cut most of it out it is addicting to be able to do that. [TS]
01:26:14 ◼ ► It is nice. Why would you ever like. It's like well that wasn't a problem I had no problem doing that. [TS]
01:26:24 ◼ ► when this actually has pointed out many times where you know this has advantages over the old way in that you don't [TS]
01:26:31 ◼ ► They don't have to know anything about you or your name like using the tokens is more secure [TS]
01:26:34 ◼ ► or reveals less information to Apple anyway the credit card company stores what you buy where and when [TS]
01:26:42 ◼ ► when they're not in it is it is a potentially more secure which is why everybody likes it reduce for ordinary thing [TS]
01:26:48 ◼ ► service that is more convenient to you and it's not that it's going to be such a life changing thing is just silly. [TS]
01:26:53 ◼ ► Once one third is an option for you you will never like you will never go out of the stores that has that option so you [TS]
01:26:59 ◼ ► know what I want to dig my credit card out of a lot instead you just won't what's the point there's no upside [TS]
01:27:11 ◼ ► but more like be like the defaults for the the three stores that you you know where I shop for my groceries where I go [TS]
01:27:21 ◼ ► or four stores you frequent all have this it would have become the way you pay for the things that I think it's going [TS]
01:27:26 ◼ ► to be interesting challenge for them to get enough locations fast enough for this not to be some weird again [TS]
01:27:32 ◼ ► or a curiosity that that is only in a few places and also think about the lock in effect they have. [TS]
01:27:39 ◼ ► Once this is everywhere you know this is not going to force everyone to buy i Phones [TS]
01:27:44 ◼ ► but it will make it harder to ever move away from an i Phone it's going to one more thing that if you have an i Phone [TS]
01:27:53 ◼ ► or whatever you'll have to think you know that I won't be able to use this in the exact same way [TS]
01:28:04 ◼ ► and they're really getting like the hardware is capable of doing things of Android doesn't sort of thing [TS]
01:28:09 ◼ ► and Google stuff of payment processor like there's no reason that other companies couldn't strike the same deals [TS]
01:28:13 ◼ ► and presumably there are hardware is there it is a business and software decision like once the readers are everywhere. [TS]
01:28:21 ◼ ► I don't think Apple has any particular lock in to those readers because those readers could be repurposed to read [TS]
01:28:29 ◼ ► So it's more of a can other companies you know do the deals with with all of the credit card companies and banks [TS]
01:28:42 ◼ ► but most people as users might consider that like oh I've gotten used to with an i Phone for the season touch Why do [TS]
01:28:50 ◼ ► If I'm moving under phone it might not work that well or it might be different or it might not work at all. [TS]
01:28:54 ◼ ► You know depending on the set up and everything like even I of I know of course these are standard and I see things [TS]
01:29:02 ◼ ► but there will be that kind of psychological lock in effect like that's one more thing about my life that will that I [TS]
01:29:08 ◼ ► will have to change if and possibly lose if I switch and and the watch will get to the watch [TS]
01:29:14 ◼ ► but the watches is after the same it has exactly the same effect which is like this is one more thing that's going to [TS]
01:29:20 ◼ ► that's going to have to change if I switch away from this. Someone pointed to chat rooms the Touch I.D. [TS]
01:29:27 ◼ ► Is a factor in this because it gives Apple the rate that you get if the credit card is present at the transaction you [TS]
01:29:39 ◼ ► and these are all weird details investitures of the credit card processing engine basically. [TS]
01:29:44 ◼ ► Apple stands to make Apple can make better deals because it was able to convince the credit card company to touch ID is [TS]
01:29:49 ◼ ► a sufficiently security thing that they should get the same rate that someone gets are they physically have the card [TS]
01:29:55 ◼ ► So you won't need to have a credit card with you but Apple will pay the smaller surcharge like basically you know. [TS]
01:30:00 ◼ ► Apple's doing what it does best making the deals with the big companies making deals that are as favorable as possible [TS]
01:30:08 ◼ ► and using technology to do that because Apple play only works from devices that Touch ID [TS]
01:30:16 ◼ ► And Android will find a much harder time doing that because even if they come out with other Touch ID It will be [TS]
01:30:25 ◼ ► and every android like it's it's so much harder to make penetration version like this. [TS]
01:30:28 ◼ ► Apple already got two hundred million I think they were talking about the five stuff that work to watch every year two [TS]
01:30:37 ◼ ► and yeah so the five Ss in the six is very soon a huge number of virus devices will have touch idea Touch ID is a big [TS]
01:30:47 ◼ ► when it comes to stuff like this because it is another factor in the authentication soup [TS]
01:30:53 ◼ ► and I think it will actually help people feel slightly better about doing this transaction like that it's not just oh [TS]
01:31:01 ◼ ► if you steal my phone you can buy things you can unless you have their thumb print or whatever [TS]
01:31:09 ◼ ► and repeat of the doings to the Touch ID every time I put a new bill the violence which kind of annoys me [TS]
01:31:14 ◼ ► and I'm a big fan of Touch ID I have great success rates I think it is. We wondered when it first came out. [TS]
01:31:19 ◼ ► Will this be good enough to be like will be like Siri where it's like what you play with it for a while [TS]
01:31:24 ◼ ► but then you realize the excess rate is too low for you to really trust anything Touch ID I feel like it's totally [TS]
01:31:29 ◼ ► crossed that bar I trusted for the intended purpose it works if it ever misses like it's convenience trumps the [TS]
01:31:36 ◼ ► whatever small percentage of failure rate that I get on it just don't try to use it [TS]
01:31:43 ◼ ► Now before we move on somebody did find this and it was drunk easy right. Yes a drug dealer. [TS]
01:31:51 ◼ ► To our caller earlier to see if she could come in and she saw it and she now is in [TS]
01:32:00 ◼ ► One woman's opinion on the i Phone sizes you want to put her on at sign are fake as about right so I'd asked earlier [TS]
01:32:12 ◼ ► what your conclusion was about which phone you're going to potentially get because you used to trying the phone on as a [TS]
01:32:22 ◼ ► convenient excuse to show the internet your butt. Oh I was curious if you reached a conclusion. [TS]
01:32:30 ◼ ► Well I did enjoy showing the internet my but I asked this mark of the news like I don't own your [TS]
01:32:41 ◼ ► but you do what you want with it I would like him to ask me permission if you want to show the Internet has [TS]
01:32:50 ◼ ► But no I think my conclusion is that I might stick with the phone I have because it's like like a crazy person you're [TS]
01:33:06 ◼ ► but I mean I thought that this one I was appalled by how light it felt at first you know [TS]
01:33:12 ◼ ► when you got the new the most reason it went what is that the five something was like a five S. [TS]
01:33:17 ◼ ► Yeah you're probably appalled by the lightness when you got the five because that's when I got taller [TS]
01:33:22 ◼ ► Yeah I like any time it changes I'm like This is the worst and then you know when the new Iowa Iowa. [TS]
01:33:29 ◼ ► Yeah when that came on and it all looked like all candy pop and I'm like wow this is terrible to Everything's ruined [TS]
01:33:39 ◼ ► and then looked at my old phone like this phone is so old what I did I really want that old phone. [TS]
01:33:45 ◼ ► The worst so I have a little bit of that still in my mind that I might you know look at it look back [TS]
01:33:54 ◼ ► You know once I get the bigger one being bigger I mean like the four point seven So the five five is now. [TS]
01:34:03 ◼ ► I can't lie I mean you can't like scroll all the way I gave or reach the other side of the phone. [TS]
01:34:09 ◼ ► I'm holding the paper right now looking at it my little lady thought and I'm going up to up it. [TS]
01:34:14 ◼ ► Marco's little man throne can't reach the home button so everything is weensy on Marco that's expected. He's dainty. [TS]
01:34:27 ◼ ► So the theory is sitting here now on a Wednesday night before the pre-order you are going to ask Marco to pre-order [TS]
01:34:37 ◼ ► and then if if Marco ends up coming back with a four seven What do you think the chances are that you're going to look [TS]
01:34:47 ◼ ► Probably a seventy percent chance that I'll say that I need that because I can't help it I like having the new stuff [TS]
01:34:54 ◼ ► but I don't know I just like my little i like being able to say it's in my pocket it's small [TS]
01:35:00 ◼ ► and like I discussed on Twitter and showed everyone on Twitter that my pocket there's a mall [TS]
01:35:15 ◼ ► Well it depends on the surface of them sitting down on the soft chair it stays in if it's a hard chair comes out. [TS]
01:35:20 ◼ ► BEARD I evaluate you know depending on the situation. That sounds like way too much work and I know it is. [TS]
01:35:26 ◼ ► If I'm at the park it usually comes out and into my front pocket because I'm like up [TS]
01:35:30 ◼ ► and down with the you know with our sun So it's in and out plus the sand you know usually have it out. [TS]
01:35:39 ◼ ► and you know I presume you're about to be banished for immediate thoughts on whether or not you would desire [TS]
01:35:43 ◼ ► and I wear an apple watch I will state it too. I like wearing jewelry too much to kind of mess that all up. [TS]
01:35:50 ◼ ► I think my accessories I decide to choose what I'm wearing as you know that's is the type of girl that I am I never was [TS]
01:36:00 ◼ ► But but see previous comments about mark of getting something new and shiny. Yeah but I mean come on. [TS]
01:36:05 ◼ ► If I had if I got the big phone and I can't. Oh he's putting it on my wrist. Is that the little one. [TS]
01:36:10 ◼ ► That looks kind of nice that wants to kick that man and I could change my mind. The gold one looks nice Mark. [TS]
01:36:23 ◼ ► I don't know why if I got the big phone then the big phone might end up living in my purse and I could take it out [TS]
01:36:32 ◼ ► but if I need notifications I could be right on my wrist so that's convenient and you could send Marco your heartbeat. [TS]
01:36:46 ◼ ► So we're saying no fly zone for the five five tentative yes on the four seven and tentative yes on the Apple Watch. [TS]
01:36:54 ◼ ► Because if the pocket that you async it's too brutal I might need to go to the watch for notifications for you know [TS]
01:37:00 ◼ ► when to take my phone out of the purse persecuted by like all the bands that you could have a choice each day. [TS]
01:37:10 ◼ ► but then you can only if you have been I have to get to faces because once called the once over so depends on her face [TS]
01:37:16 ◼ ► of us to watch it. Feel free to get to what some people were both at once. Yeah exactly. [TS]
01:37:20 ◼ ► And Mark goes over there he's rubbing his eyes like call his head he's like why wouldn't you have a day watching [TS]
01:37:27 ◼ ► and I watched her I know I mean come on already well thank you for the feminine influence for tonight. [TS]
01:37:44 ◼ ► or such a good idea to have your wife on the show isn't a mark of reading it in the background that does great I can't [TS]
01:37:51 ◼ ► wait to hear the ear like I wasn't concerned about like having to buy multiple devices. I was thinking like. [TS]
01:38:00 ◼ ► Oh my God I'm going to wait on like five different lines to get all the watches and all the different bands. [TS]
01:38:09 ◼ ► All right so let's let's talk about some. Are we done with apple pie. I actually won one quick observation. [TS]
01:38:15 ◼ ► I know this doesn't relate to i Cloud but it is kind of funny to me that after all of this. [TS]
01:38:23 ◼ ► Angsty not you know about i Cloud just what a week or two ago. Now Apple saying to the world. [TS]
01:38:29 ◼ ► Yes trust us with your credit cards and trust us with your with all of this we will be OK [TS]
01:38:37 ◼ ► That one is not really related to the other but it is kind of funny to me that there wasn't even like even a snicker [TS]
01:38:43 ◼ ► or a nod to the fact that there was all sorts of i Pod Aaja just a week or two ago. [TS]
01:38:48 ◼ ► Well I mean first of all like I think the geeks even people who are extremely critical of Apple know that like OK well [TS]
01:38:58 ◼ ► and stuff like that like like there's like even that like it's hard to argue you know like falsehoods. [TS]
01:39:06 ◼ ► That being related or not related. Secondly people have a very short memory with this kind of stuff very very short. [TS]
01:39:13 ◼ ► And and you know Apple Pay isn't even out yet it's not going to launch for at least on a like month [TS]
01:39:18 ◼ ► and a half it is that they said October it's right now early September that might be like Halloween when it launches [TS]
01:39:30 ◼ ► That's long enough away that the celebrity nude hack thing is going to be forgotten. People have already forgotten it. [TS]
01:39:41 ◼ ► but reality wise like that that type of news story the cycle that it the news cycle that it's been butchered turned [TS]
01:39:48 ◼ ► over ninety seven times for the I think it could still be in the back of people's minds [TS]
01:39:51 ◼ ► but you know for Apple they in particular apple has a good story to tell customers the story unfortunately involves [TS]
01:40:02 ◼ ► but as you say well at least Apple is not adding another party it's going over them because Apple is not participating [TS]
01:40:12 ◼ ► It doesn't base its business model or on having an information or controlling it or selling [TS]
01:40:18 ◼ ► People are totally OK with that now with credit card games except for the people who only pay for everything with cash [TS]
01:40:32 ◼ ► Anyone that's the best follow up is like we were just trying to predict one or two episodes ago they go [TS]
01:40:37 ◼ ► and they are going to be around forever then I'm going to kill it and then yesterday killed it. [TS]
01:40:41 ◼ ► Well now we said that he killed one time and we always expect them to and so far they haven't you know [TS]
01:40:46 ◼ ► but you know it really is remarkable that they did kill it like of all of all the changes they made yesterday to [TS]
01:40:52 ◼ ► everything to their site to their store. Like how does how is that a higher priority to even be removed from the site. [TS]
01:40:58 ◼ ► and symbolic if you want to go into their whole like oh the revolutionary input methods to finally retire the last well [TS]
01:41:04 ◼ ► I just is and I don't have a quick will and retire the last on the Quick Well yes I think it's touch [TS]
01:41:12 ◼ ► It's it's like phasing out of the original i Pod form factor and also all is left now is the now in the shuffle [TS]
01:41:24 ◼ ► So let's talk about this Apple Watch which by the way I don't call it an I watch that's going to be difficult all fully [TS]
01:41:30 ◼ ► trained myself out of it. Why why do you think we're banning the I mean it's kind of dated. [TS]
01:41:37 ◼ ► It's not so much that it's dated it's I think it may be misguided because I this I understand why they're doing it [TS]
01:41:45 ◼ ► but using generics is not a great way to do it's kind of the same reason that car makers all move to the B.M.W. [TS]
01:41:51 ◼ ► Mercedes naming convention you talk about is back on neutral like the you know so I B M W has a series of number. [TS]
01:42:08 ◼ ► When Acura came into the luxury car business which is Honda's luxury brand they had the Acura legend in the Acura [TS]
01:42:14 ◼ ► Integra. And what happened is that people refer to the their legend or their integrity. [TS]
01:42:23 ◼ ► So the theory goes for Acura brand recognition so accurate changed all his its cars from the legend of the integrity to [TS]
01:42:30 ◼ ► a series of nonsensical letters like P L N R S X and also kind of made skyscraper to have a name as another story. [TS]
01:42:38 ◼ ► The theory being that if you give your cars names that are just a bunch of alphabet soup [TS]
01:42:43 ◼ ► or numbers people will have to say the word Acura more and the word accurate would be in their mind. [TS]
01:42:57 ◼ ► or associate these products more with Apple receives the i Pod I watch there is the possibility in the mind again in [TS]
01:43:04 ◼ ► the mind of marketers maybe in reality that people don't even understand who makes that part of that Microsoft. [TS]
01:43:13 ◼ ► but to the really casual person connecting that all back to Apple requires a leap of brand knowledge which may [TS]
01:43:19 ◼ ► or may not be as strong as Apple would like it to be you know Apple does have a tremendously strong brand one of the [TS]
01:43:26 ◼ ► but I can see some marketer in a meeting saying this will really help people continue to hammer the word apple into [TS]
01:43:35 ◼ ► All you want to pay with Apple pay instead of saying I pay oh you have an apple watch is that your Apple T.V. [TS]
01:43:41 ◼ ► The reason I think it might not be a great idea is because they're using generics. Watch T.V. [TS]
01:43:47 ◼ ► Pay male I hate Apple Mail every time I read an interview after Apple now because of this right now all of the capital [TS]
01:43:57 ◼ ► Or am I talking about like mail like the Internet. As like a concept No I'm talking about. [TS]
01:44:01 ◼ ► I'm never going to write mailed out applicants through file name extensions so I have the mail right using a generic [TS]
01:44:20 ◼ ► and i Phone are better than a generic because you can't just say watch by itself you have to say Apple Watch. [TS]
01:44:29 ◼ ► So I think I see what they're going for. But to me it feels a lot like mac book where it's like I don't like it. [TS]
01:44:38 ◼ ► but in that case they were getting the mac name out and yeah you know I'm back in mac book you know it's a Mac. [TS]
01:44:58 ◼ ► Did this too it was like when it was in development it was called I.T.V. In fact they even called it I.T.V. [TS]
01:45:04 ◼ ► They went to the similar thing where like people are first referring to to the i T.V. [TS]
01:45:07 ◼ ► and Then when it was released to the Apple T.V. and It sounded weird about the BE THAT was the B.B.C. and I was a baby. [TS]
01:45:13 ◼ ► Some one of the various things you can people you need more things to correct us on there you go wherever whatever that [TS]
01:45:19 ◼ ► I see these things that you guys have made us to not be able to call it id right but so. [TS]
01:45:24 ◼ ► So there was that words like I think it sounds weird you know yesterday and today I think like Apple T.V. [TS]
01:45:30 ◼ ► Doesn't sound weird to me anymore it's kind of weird the first day I think will deliver it quickly. [TS]
01:45:35 ◼ ► Secondly I don't think it's quite as much about trying to boost the Apple brand I think that's part of it [TS]
01:45:48 ◼ ► and high fashion branding as a society we're OK having phones in our pockets and taking out a case [TS]
01:45:54 ◼ ► and having computers in our back and take no more use in them when you're wearing something all the time. [TS]
01:46:00 ◼ ► Time like all day every day you're wearing something money that is jewelry that is an accessory that like the standards [TS]
01:46:06 ◼ ► are so much higher for what people are willing to wear than what they're willing to carry in their pocket [TS]
01:46:13 ◼ ► and I watch kind of sounds geeky like to me that I watch sounds nerdy you know camel case itself is pretty nerdy [TS]
01:46:22 ◼ ► and it just it just kind of like that sounds nerdy to me whereas Apple Watch sounds like a higher class brand name even [TS]
01:46:30 ◼ ► though I know it's a trick in certain ways but it just sounds like I watch is a geek thing [TS]
01:46:38 ◼ ► and Apple Watch is a fashion thing. They really really want to go fashion and her of all that watch by Apple. [TS]
01:46:46 ◼ ► But they will think about fashion in their we don't buy this before I think like that the tolerance for being a [TS]
01:46:53 ◼ ► billboard is strangely high in the fashion world because then I maybe I'm still getting this wrong I think I got the [TS]
01:46:58 ◼ ► wrong end of the show and I really get it wrong people can we correct me that the idea being that you can't copyright [TS]
01:47:03 ◼ ► or otherwise protect the intellectual property of a design of something like a purse or a shoe. [TS]
01:47:13 ◼ ► and so now logos become part of the design because you know you have a need to come back [TS]
01:47:18 ◼ ► and tell me what you know Louis Vuitton bag or something with a little logo all over it [TS]
01:47:21 ◼ ► and that becomes like a pattern and you know it becomes the logo itself becomes fashion [TS]
01:47:34 ◼ ► I think on the back it has a little apple button for Rolex has a little Rolex symbol the word Rolex [TS]
01:47:39 ◼ ► and Louis Vuitton bags and all those things are just covered with things like that [TS]
01:47:43 ◼ ► and Apple does not have its logo everywhere they say look they had a logos on the back and great anyway. [TS]
01:47:55 ◼ ► and I think maybe it could benefit from one especially was going to be like a high end watch because of. [TS]
01:48:00 ◼ ► The Rolex is like it's a product name for the type of watch it I don't know enough about high [TS]
01:48:04 ◼ ► and watches to know that like you can't just say watch by itself you have to say Apple Watch every time [TS]
01:48:12 ◼ ► You're right that I watch on here but Apple watches seems like kind of a mouthful in kind of generic and boring [TS]
01:48:23 ◼ ► but it's just you know some brand of some Swiss company that you know I mean like I don't I don't know I'm I'm not I [TS]
01:48:31 ◼ ► really wish I don't especially because our i Phone like has worked out really want to make i Phone has worked out well [TS]
01:48:51 ◼ ► and eventually everybody had formed a room is totally comfortable to having their i Phone or Bill [TS]
01:48:55 ◼ ► but also that was seven years ago and so not only is that mean coming from a different era [TS]
01:49:01 ◼ ► but it might even be played out the I could I mean I think I had to go on forever I'm not a great fan of the I either [TS]
01:49:07 ◼ ► but like we will never find out if this goes all I touch you know the same way everyone calls the i Pod Touch the i [TS]
01:49:14 ◼ ► Touch because they just like no apple we do not accept your name it's an I touch forever and ever. [TS]
01:49:18 ◼ ► So creepy people could choose to just call this the I watch I mean we're doing it accidentally because we've been [TS]
01:49:24 ◼ ► We'll probably come around because we're the kind of geeks who care about what things are named [TS]
01:49:28 ◼ ► but just let's convene back when this watch has been out for six months and see everybody you know still calls [TS]
01:49:43 ◼ ► and it's not Apple's marketers will get full of that to the world at large and the little thing with the Apple logo [TS]
01:49:53 ◼ ► and sometimes then having the little low over the thing in it that always struck me that we are with Apple T.V. [TS]
01:50:00 ◼ ► Everyone knows how they're going to do it you know the rule is you just write it out one way if you're writing about it [TS]
01:50:06 ◼ ► or whatever the word is you put a little apple logo in the thing next to it in the small caps for a watch. [TS]
01:50:13 ◼ ► Well that's a that's a stylization in the in the marketing material that's not the name I know [TS]
01:50:18 ◼ ► but it's not the strike you as weird like I can't think of I guess I mean we have a bit of travel T.V. but T.V. [TS]
01:50:40 ◼ ► And lately the naming is been weird and not not consistent with self and it was always some little problem. [TS]
01:50:52 ◼ ► or two that the i Phone will become the Apple phone now on account of because this is too much brand equity an i Phone [TS]
01:51:00 ◼ ► It's a great name. Yeah i Phone is established. What are we going to give up numbers. [TS]
01:51:05 ◼ ► Yeah that's coming sooner than that I think that the number thing like again talk about the naming stuff getting it for [TS]
01:51:11 ◼ ► the i Pad for being the new I think it was I don't like that the time is coming for the end of i Phone numbers like I [TS]
01:51:17 ◼ ► don't think they're going to go too far into double digits for the i Phone because it will just start seeming I don't [TS]
01:51:24 ◼ ► I think if people would lose track you have the i Phone thirteen or nine or ten and just like whatever. [TS]
01:51:33 ◼ ► or nine because like the public kind of names these for them like remember when I blogged about like [TS]
01:51:39 ◼ ► when the forest came out and everyone freaked out because it wasn't the i Phone five [TS]
01:51:44 ◼ ► and like the response was so incredibly brutal unnecessarily and unfairly brutal because the four S. [TS]
01:51:53 ◼ ► Was like quote not the real i Phone five. Or like or not and i Phone five and so the next year even though the i Phone. [TS]
01:52:00 ◼ ► Why was the sixth i Phone They called it i Phone five because I think everybody was demanding i Phone five [TS]
01:52:11 ◼ ► And so they said it was probably presumed presumed to be better for overall brand reputation blah blah blah. [TS]
01:52:23 ◼ ► and after that they were going to serve and I think they can make it easily and eight to seven eight [TS]
01:52:28 ◼ ► and possibly even nine I just feel like once you start getting to double the number start to blur people's minds [TS]
01:52:34 ◼ ► and they can be like it's easier to be able to remember five six seven and remember thirteen fourteen fifteen. [TS]
01:52:39 ◼ ► But if we keep having these steps that we still have like like eight more years dead they've got they've got Tommy like [TS]
01:52:45 ◼ ► they like getting them on the i Pad as it has worked out more or less like people don't care you know. I Pad i Pad Air. [TS]
01:52:55 ◼ ► but that's all that that also came with like a massive revision like will see like you know what are they going to call [TS]
01:53:00 ◼ ► this fall's i Pad or the latest rumor is that the retina many won't even be updated [TS]
01:53:13 ◼ ► or you know in parentheses late twenty fourteen like you know what they're going to be. [TS]
01:53:18 ◼ ► They haven't been renaming the macros on the macro to the macro three like it will work out the difference there with [TS]
01:53:37 ◼ ► Yes So the point is that means but I think they can in fortnightly. Yes You know what I mean. [TS]
01:53:44 ◼ ► So for annually The thing is that these other products like the i Pad generally speaking those are upgraded on an [TS]
01:53:52 ◼ ► annual or every couple year basis unlike a phone and so I think having the numbers on the phone make. [TS]
01:54:01 ◼ ► and it will be harder to get rid of than on an i Pad which may only upgrade every two to three years. Now we shall see. [TS]
01:54:08 ◼ ► We we went off on the one hand you talk about the watch. I love that we are now two hours and we have to watch really. [TS]
01:54:18 ◼ ► When I was watching this video I know there's going to be a I was pretty sure I was going to be a watch they did of the [TS]
01:54:24 ◼ ► One more thing which you know I get distracted on I think it's fine you know if you're going to hold back for something [TS]
01:54:34 ◼ ► but they think it's right they thought this was right I thought it was fine this is significant product [TS]
01:54:44 ◼ ► and he's like in the some partners new product category he didn't say it was a watch or anything like that is like [TS]
01:54:48 ◼ ► and here it is and you see the video in a show like this is going to be a first glimpse of this thing [TS]
01:54:53 ◼ ► and they show you close ups of parts of it you can't tell what one likes they showed the censors in the back [TS]
01:54:57 ◼ ► and you couldn't like they were crazy like what the hell does some sort of alien device [TS]
01:55:01 ◼ ► and they show you the little crown but you don't know it's the crown yet and it looks really weird. [TS]
01:55:07 ◼ ► And so watching this video I thought the little details are showing a really cool Mike this is something unexpected not [TS]
01:55:16 ◼ ► and it's kind of like one of those things at the back of the hours like Games magazine anyway. [TS]
01:55:21 ◼ ► One of those kids' magazines they show you extreme close up of something you have to guess what it is [TS]
01:55:27 ◼ ► That's what the beginning of this video was for and when they are like in the third or fourth shot [TS]
01:55:33 ◼ ► and it rotates into view my first impression immediate was disappointment that it looked like a smart watch. [TS]
01:55:41 ◼ ► That was my media person brushing one of your guys a reaction to that same I I was starting to feel more [TS]
01:55:49 ◼ ► and more smug about my own theory that it wouldn't look like a pebble or anything like that [TS]
01:55:54 ◼ ► and it would be more about sensors than anything else and it's sort of about sensors but I was way off base. [TS]
01:56:00 ◼ ► Yes and I was hoping for and expecting something that looked totally different and I think [TS]
01:56:09 ◼ ► That's sort of different in that it's using something we already know but in a very different way. [TS]
01:56:24 ◼ ► when they showed those I actually got surprisingly excited about those I thought they all looked really cool [TS]
01:56:29 ◼ ► and it was clever the way that they have the little slide in an out in order to change them. [TS]
01:56:35 ◼ ► So what was your first gut gut reaction you wrote his interview you fine see what it looks like what do you think of me [TS]
01:56:40 ◼ ► not what you think now but what did you feel that second I completely agree with Casey basically when it [TS]
01:56:47 ◼ ► when I first saw it I first actually a few days beforehand a few days ago some site leaked like some CAD drawing of [TS]
01:56:57 ◼ ► turn out to be exactly right. A CAD drawing of the watches body and it was like the T.V. T.V. [TS]
01:57:02 ◼ ► Engineering test drawing of some of that and so when I saw that I was disappointed. [TS]
01:57:10 ◼ ► or for really like minimal thin kind of like some something else that didn't look like the other smart watches [TS]
01:57:18 ◼ ► and I think you know all of us in tech I've been drafting a blog post for this and I'm still to finish [TS]
01:57:35 ◼ ► and we didn't we knew there was a tablet that was very heavily remote we didn't know anything about it [TS]
01:57:39 ◼ ► and this is the December and I like about a month before the i Pad was actually announced. [TS]
01:57:44 ◼ ► And during this time I did a couple of posts and one of them I was saying like the big problem with tablets is input. [TS]
01:57:52 ◼ ► You know How is Apple going to solve the input problem and in a virtual keyboard design mediocre fiddle keyboards. [TS]
01:58:00 ◼ ► Clunky with a tablet like and I went through really all the different things like what they could do and mice. [TS]
01:58:05 ◼ ► My conclusion was basically like there probably is going to do something I haven't thought of [TS]
01:58:17 ◼ ► and then you actually John I found an article by you on our called antacid habit that I'll just paste it in the chat [TS]
01:58:27 ◼ ► and you basically said you have the common notion that Apple's going to do something crazy but they probably won't [TS]
01:58:33 ◼ ► and they'll probably just use existing stuff that we all know about and just do it well and that's what happened [TS]
01:58:38 ◼ ► and it turned out the i Pad came out and they didn't invent any crazy new input mechanism they just did. [TS]
01:58:45 ◼ ► The ones we knew about well and it had it had problems like input on the i Pad is challenging. [TS]
01:59:00 ◼ ► Like whenever the Whenever people say oh well they'll have to have to come up with something we can't think of the [TS]
01:59:07 ◼ ► number of times Apple has come up with something we're not thinking of is actually pretty low. [TS]
01:59:12 ◼ ► Usually they do things that people have thought of before and they just do them better. [TS]
01:59:21 ◼ ► and like it chances are if you can't think of a of a practical like reasonable doable way to solve a problem they [TS]
01:59:31 ◼ ► And so we saw a lot of that leading up to this we will have to this watch thing where we saw tons of people we know [TS]
01:59:37 ◼ ► and ourselves even clued thinks just saying things like well you know you can look at smart watch that are out there [TS]
01:59:42 ◼ ► and they have a number of problems mainly size battery life and display and interaction [TS]
01:59:48 ◼ ► and so like this it's very very challenging to try to figure out how to interact with a screen this small that is going [TS]
02:00:00 ◼ ► We can just cover thing a button that's weird you can't do much with a touch screen because it's so small [TS]
02:00:10 ◼ ► but you already have better challenges to begin with and that makes it even harder and so you take this thing [TS]
02:00:16 ◼ ► and so we were all saying well they're going to do something we haven't thought of yet. [TS]
02:00:24 ◼ ► or the displays are going to have a weird display that wrath from the whole thing or trying to have a display [TS]
02:00:32 ◼ ► Like a touchscreen like everyone else has when it comes out and it is what everyone else has done better [TS]
02:00:38 ◼ ► and so you know I was disappointed to see that I was disappointed to see like well it's you know I've been I've been [TS]
02:00:51 ◼ ► And part of this is I don't want to watch I mean I wore what I wore watching middle school [TS]
02:01:05 ◼ ► but I also like I can't fault them for it because like well I don't know what they should've done instead of this I [TS]
02:01:10 ◼ ► think around them would have looked better but otherwise they still would've been probably large [TS]
02:01:14 ◼ ► and like look I have I printed out paper prints of these two and the small one looks better on my wrist I think [TS]
02:01:28 ◼ ► and I don't even know that's thinking that there be a lot of men who pick the smaller one who regardless of the small [TS]
02:01:38 ◼ ► but I'm worried that I won't be able to see that on the screen because it is noticeably smaller like I you know so that [TS]
02:01:45 ◼ ► I think will be a problem for Frank who picks a small one that it does fit noticeably less is substantially smaller in [TS]
02:01:52 ◼ ► person and also the biggest problem with these to me is that they're just so tall they're they're thick [TS]
02:02:02 ◼ ► Now that being said you know you can you can go back probably you can pick some time in history [TS]
02:02:12 ◼ ► and these days it doesn't matter nearly as much because everybody's carrying on Fulmar tangles [TS]
02:02:15 ◼ ► and everybody who has owned any given pair of jeans for more than about two months. [TS]
02:02:20 ◼ ► You can probably see a slight wear outline in the phone rectangle pocket you know if you can see you can see where they [TS]
02:02:28 ◼ ► and that's just become acceptable because we've all decided that it's worth throwing the devices around so maybe like [TS]
02:02:34 ◼ ► to me the I wear the sari to me happily watch it looks big and chunky to me but I like. [TS]
02:02:42 ◼ ► We might decide as a society that's worth doing but for now I still are Casey I saw it [TS]
02:02:48 ◼ ► and I thought you know that's that's bigger than I That's bigger thicker and more square than I would have preferred. [TS]
02:03:01 ◼ ► when we talked about the i Watch in a recent not that recent show whenever we talk about all the other existing watches [TS]
02:03:06 ◼ ► and I'm like whatever Apple does all these things are these Android devices are doing. [TS]
02:03:13 ◼ ► You can't just take a smartphone shrink it down show run your Witcher Frist which is what all these Android devices [TS]
02:03:20 ◼ ► and it was just like this Android where even a lot of the Motorola Laci was like take our existing smartphone O.-S. [TS]
02:03:27 ◼ ► An interface squish it down now you have a little tiny smartphone on your wrist that just does not work it's terrible. [TS]
02:03:34 ◼ ► and he was talking about it in terms of the software of like you can just take your i Phone [TS]
02:03:38 ◼ ► and shrink it down he was talking tiling about you can just take an i Phone app so you can a pension zoom you can have [TS]
02:03:43 ◼ ► all the same you why you can of all the stuff so I was like Right on time we agree there. [TS]
02:03:49 ◼ ► and it gets back to my initial gut reaction to the phone is looking like a little you know Airstream trailer on your [TS]
02:03:54 ◼ ► wrist and a little rectangle in just the whole thing is that I thought what they would. Go for. [TS]
02:04:12 ◼ ► and by the way big thick chunky watches I think have been in fashion various times at least for men. [TS]
02:04:18 ◼ ► when you have something like a like OK well it's got to be big because reasons X.Y.Z. [TS]
02:04:23 ◼ ► and battery life big thick battery you can try to minimize that by making the transition between the strap [TS]
02:04:30 ◼ ► and the thing be less abrupt because a a thin strap that goes in the edge of your little Airstream trailer [TS]
02:04:43 ◼ ► Again totally expected replaceable straps totally I mean even again with getting better and make a robotic [TS]
02:04:51 ◼ ► but you know they give you this little they give you an actual little naked robotic core [TS]
02:04:55 ◼ ► and it shoves into the little rubberized wrist thing Another example is going to make a rubberized tippet type thing [TS]
02:05:00 ◼ ► but the same type of idea that the overall shape you have replaceable bands perhaps a replaceable everything [TS]
02:05:05 ◼ ► and the only thing the i Watch part of it would be a literal naked robotic or that slit in the thing [TS]
02:05:16 ◼ ► and probably what they came up with was look we had to know we know how to make rounded rectangle screens on top to [TS]
02:05:21 ◼ ► really well but then you know they let the thing be true to itself it is a little tiny rounded rectangle it has a C.P.U. [TS]
02:05:31 ◼ ► We know we're going to make it thinner as time goes on but just stick with this is I now [TS]
02:05:36 ◼ ► but it just really does look like a lunch box on your wrist and they can make it fancy all they want [TS]
02:05:43 ◼ ► Thing and have it be off centre with a big giant button and we you know we know this will all shrink down [TS]
02:05:48 ◼ ► but I I was really expecting them to to to try to mask the fact that it's so big and instead they've essentially [TS]
02:06:00 ◼ ► I move embraced it like this is the watch this is the thing it's the metal thing we can make it shiny and nice [TS]
02:06:07 ◼ ► and we'll have the straps intersect in the middle so the thickness is kind of minified because if you have the straps [TS]
02:06:15 ◼ ► when people put on they say oh doesn't look that think it's not so bad there it's just that they are not they're not [TS]
02:06:23 ◼ ► trying to smooth the transition from the watch let alone the crazy mock ups they had like oh the whole thing is a [TS]
02:06:28 ◼ ► screen like it'll be longer till we get that or whatever so they can revise that when they want to. [TS]
02:06:32 ◼ ► But this this design is definitely more jarring and on a macro scale then that I would have liked. [TS]
02:06:48 ◼ ► and the details of it the way the screen works even though the transition Rina screen in the case of the little gentle [TS]
02:06:53 ◼ ► curve and the force push on the thing like every other detail of it that they've done I'm very impressed with. [TS]
02:06:59 ◼ ► They are basically showing everybody else this is all you do is so much you do not shrink i Phone apps down on them [TS]
02:07:13 ◼ ► I think that's obvious you don't want to be a place where there are contacts that you can you know splash water can get [TS]
02:07:20 ◼ ► and then bottom line lighting partakes takes up a huge amount of space relative to the size of that watch where [TS]
02:07:27 ◼ ► but you know forget lighting part without the inductive charging is very clever like everything else about it I'm [TS]
02:07:32 ◼ ► totally on board with just that it's it's a little you know little little lunch box on your wrist with a very nice [TS]
02:07:44 ◼ ► Like I said but within a presentation I want to fast forward right now to the i Phone four S. [TS]
02:07:49 ◼ ► Design of this so many generations that is is going to look a lot better like three or four years you know. [TS]
02:08:00 ◼ ► I mean it's obvious similarities because they're both kind of rounded lozenge type things [TS]
02:08:03 ◼ ► but yeah you know it's funny thing that I aim for that I keep thinking about with regard to the Apple Watch other than [TS]
02:08:15 ◼ ► And as I've said numerous times in the past any time I say that I end up wanting it. [TS]
02:08:19 ◼ ► But the other thing the other thing I was thinking about is it looks to me to be extremely thick [TS]
02:08:31 ◼ ► And so I completely agree with you John that I've got to assume over the next couple years it'll get thinner [TS]
02:08:45 ◼ ► but I do know that I have seen some ridiculous Lee thick like normal watches on people [TS]
02:08:55 ◼ ► and we may be in one of them now that comically thick watches we're not saying right that they were you know that that [TS]
02:09:03 ◼ ► was something you want to have that it was manly that it was exciting that it was interesting. Not only think but huge. [TS]
02:09:10 ◼ ► Having this come in two sizes that was the best part of the announcement like oh thank god because the size of this [TS]
02:09:18 ◼ ► You cannot put something that big it's not going to look at and everybody having a smaller one. [TS]
02:09:25 ◼ ► and it shows they understand there's a limit to the size of if you limit to the size of the screen you can put on your [TS]
02:09:34 ◼ ► and much you know like the futuristic sort of giant hollow band thing that has that you know we're not there yet right. [TS]
02:09:40 ◼ ► So I'm glad that they have a smaller version of but I think the thickness. I mean I don't know. [TS]
02:09:48 ◼ ► I'm trying to think Will this be a better than me just saying like I wish they had like minimises wouldn't look so bad. [TS]
02:10:00 ◼ ► Then this once my bike it looks better than all the other smart watches I've seen in terms of the details it is not any [TS]
02:10:10 ◼ ► Maybe the Motorola has a little bit more panache because it's round sort of flat tire around [TS]
02:10:15 ◼ ► but I think the Motorola one looks like looks bigger and more like I've seen women wearing the Motorola [TS]
02:10:22 ◼ ► but they called three sixty or something here at their imaginative name not a good watch that's a name and not. [TS]
02:10:28 ◼ ► Anyway that one I think it looks I think they did an excellent job in their publicity shots of showing real people [TS]
02:10:38 ◼ ► and I was just amazed I went to the photo shop that is that really had the Watchlist because all those beautiful people [TS]
02:10:43 ◼ ► wearing the watch in those shots of like you know joggers or the person holding a baby [TS]
02:10:52 ◼ ► and it almost made me think like that had to be fake because they did not look like ridiculous smartwatch [TS]
02:11:01 ◼ ► when it's gigantic floating Airstream trailer coming out your butt on your wrist it does not look as ridiculous. [TS]
02:11:06 ◼ ► I still take a look at a little ridiculous Anjani Ivan Tim like sometimes you can see the water so heavy that it was [TS]
02:11:10 ◼ ► like rotating around their wrist you know from the weight of the watch was like twisting the band on their arm [TS]
02:11:15 ◼ ► and some of the bands like that big glaring white like the bands look really thick [TS]
02:11:20 ◼ ► and chunky to even Yeah I don't know I don't as a fashion accessory I think they're doing everything they can with the [TS]
02:11:27 ◼ ► current technology. But I was very surprised by the conventional ness of the of the design. [TS]
02:11:42 ◼ ► It's just better I don't think it needs to be radically different kind of like it's a design choice you could make [TS]
02:11:47 ◼ ► could make like technology wise they could make the thing and I'm envisioning still has replaceable straps [TS]
02:12:00 ◼ ► No watching Apple's chosen to embrace that difference and say we're not going to mask that difference. [TS]
02:12:05 ◼ ► We're going to say yes there is the strap and there's the watch and the watch is actually much thicker than a strap [TS]
02:12:10 ◼ ► and there's no getting around that and we're going to own up to it and here it is. [TS]
02:12:14 ◼ ► As opposed to a more tapered type solution within the same technologies I'm not asking for a giant curved screen that [TS]
02:12:21 ◼ ► and I think regular like that like I think you know it's just it's just the design choice [TS]
02:12:30 ◼ ► and in retrospect in terms of that's the type of style they have you know they've expressed interest in before [TS]
02:12:35 ◼ ► especially Johnny I protect the flower I McInerney like that of letting the Bass be true itself down on the ground [TS]
02:12:40 ◼ ► letting the thing float in the air it's just a different direction that could have gone [TS]
02:12:45 ◼ ► and I think the rectangular ness also of the screen and the like the factor that the crown is off center. [TS]
02:12:52 ◼ ► But there's a lot of this is rising out of a century for Johnny I've designed a giant. [TS]
02:12:58 ◼ ► Yeah I want to quickly go back to a point you made earlier about traditional watches that are sometimes big in a [TS]
02:13:12 ◼ ► and I think the reason is is because we've seen that there are watches you know regular traditional watches that are [TS]
02:13:22 ◼ ► when you have a really big watch that's a deliberate choice by that watch manufacturer that they want to make this [TS]
02:13:32 ◼ ► Converse Lee We've never seen a really tiny smart watch or whatever we're calling these [TS]
02:13:44 ◼ ► and I think that's why it doesn't look in neatly good like a panorama a Rolex or something like that. [TS]
02:13:51 ◼ ► Well we've seen mock ups of smart watches that are small like the technology doesn't exist for us to do. [TS]
02:14:00 ◼ ► Well as apples because bottom line is you need some place like I've talked about it on the patches like if you made one [TS]
02:14:05 ◼ ► of those mock ups like how the hell would you deal with the screen is a just one like you just like those ones look at [TS]
02:14:15 ◼ ► and like move like that the dial as in like a physical thing that you can you know interact with the watch [TS]
02:14:22 ◼ ► and manipulate what's on the screen without covering what's on a screen in a secure way where you're not going to [TS]
02:14:27 ◼ ► accidentally start rotating the Watcher on your restraint like that that is an important feature like that. [TS]
02:14:32 ◼ ► Those are problems that they're solving not unlike ways that no longer thought of as many people might like the Black [TS]
02:14:39 ◼ ► and stuff like that like this is well trod territory for small devices of how you interact with him without touching [TS]
02:14:46 ◼ ► But Apple is the first one to just I think what's on the screen is just as important like the interface they're [TS]
02:14:52 ◼ ► choosing to do the sort of minimal interface that doesn't look like anything like an i Phone interface it's entirely [TS]
02:15:10 ◼ ► News reporter asked him in one of these exclusive interviews like it's so hard making something [TS]
02:15:14 ◼ ► when that a lot of people are going to have to use but people don't get to use it until you make it. [TS]
02:15:21 ◼ ► or god knows how many years that's all they do is use it just using it use it like crazy. [TS]
02:15:28 ◼ ► and they're like that's all they do is use them they are not guessing the dial situation is going to work out. [TS]
02:15:37 ◼ ► And they threw away all the ones that didn't work and this is the best when they go you know. [TS]
02:15:41 ◼ ► So I have faith that they have made good decisions about this because it's not like they rushed this out to press that [TS]
02:15:47 ◼ ► to get into the smartphone market like some other smart watch market like some of the help I do I do have one concern [TS]
02:15:53 ◼ ► about the law. I have an over concerns with one of my concerns or just me personally using it. [TS]
02:16:03 ◼ ► or if I'm otherwise in public you can't know what technology I own unless I have it out. [TS]
02:16:11 ◼ ► This is always out I don't know about that I think you have a we can't know technology only black T. Shirt jeans. [TS]
02:16:20 ◼ ► You know you're not a stealth as you think you are right down to the rectangle worn into your pants pockets. [TS]
02:16:29 ◼ ► M five you just got out of how even though I get that I'm black so it's less conspicuous. [TS]
02:16:34 ◼ ► Oh yeah hormonally let me write unvarying gets bigger his car was ridiculously huge wheels and enormous it melts [TS]
02:16:44 ◼ ► And additionally how often do you go walking down the street Manhattan just whistling and looking about when I [TS]
02:17:04 ◼ ► and I'm sure in time this will probably become less of an issue just like how you know like like I remember when I [TS]
02:17:17 ◼ ► My mom advised me not to like show it out any time because people would get mugged for their Discman. [TS]
02:17:24 ◼ ► Same problem with any you know every portable The Tronics thing that became popular [TS]
02:17:31 ◼ ► You know the New York City subway for years inviting people not to use the stock Apple white ear buds because that was [TS]
02:17:38 ◼ ► it that was a clear signal to anyone around you that you had an expensive Apple device in your pocket [TS]
02:17:48 ◼ ► and so I think you know this this is going to have similar issues is that we're like this is going to telegraph to [TS]
02:17:56 ◼ ► everybody not only do I have an i Phone in my pocket because there's only works of i Phones. [TS]
02:18:00 ◼ ► But but this thing itself is expensive and possibly made of gold and other things and silly [TS]
02:18:06 ◼ ► and it's always out there I mean you know you can wear long sleeves even if they for the most part this is always going [TS]
02:18:23 ◼ ► and I'm sure Apple hopes it does it only well if America was like these a smartphone in public [TS]
02:18:27 ◼ ► when you have an i Phone Now nobody cares you know but I thought I mean myself or motorist alike whatever [TS]
02:18:32 ◼ ► and don't worry about being robbed it's kind of silly because you know whenever you have nice things people are going [TS]
02:18:39 ◼ ► Robbery rates have been going down for years you'd be OK The embarrassment just among your peers of like being a bad [TS]
02:18:46 ◼ ► and like think of the first person to use a Bluetooth one of those you know Bluetooth headphone things talking to the [TS]
02:18:51 ◼ ► cell phone when you're talking to yourself. People got over that and it still amazes me. [TS]
02:18:54 ◼ ► I think people get over the watch if they saw a lot of them that's you just got to sell a lot of them now the weird [TS]
02:18:59 ◼ ► and I tweeted this as well during the thing of like Oh papa watch starts at three hundred fifty two sorry three hundred [TS]
02:19:11 ◼ ► and people people are continuing to talk to me as I put the price up I asked a question on Twitter [TS]
02:19:15 ◼ ► and today people are still talking about it so what do you guys think where what is the if you bought the most [TS]
02:19:28 ◼ ► but anyway just what's what's the number three. It starts at three fifty Where does it stop. [TS]
02:19:33 ◼ ► I have a hard time seeing them going above a thousand for the watch itself I will see what the band you know some of [TS]
02:19:48 ◼ ► and get like some kind of reasonable band for it I'm guessing you're spending over a thousand. Not by a whole lot. [TS]
02:19:56 ◼ ► when they said it starts at three forty nine. I feel like if you're watching a band. [TS]
02:20:00 ◼ ► Right I would bet not but we'll see or maybe media gets like the really crappy like nylon band [TS]
02:20:05 ◼ ► or whatever than they do anything good you going to spend like another hundred bucks or whatever on the band. [TS]
02:20:09 ◼ ► Who knows we'll see it would not surprise me to see the gold ones cross a thousand [TS]
02:20:27 ◼ ► when you mean that we're not talking about aftermarket obvious aren't going to buy this [TS]
02:20:33 ◼ ► So on on Twitter Dr wave I was asking if I was going to be over a thousand I said got to be deaf. [TS]
02:20:40 ◼ ► Certainly over a thousand and that's a gimme. The question is how far above a thousand. [TS]
02:20:44 ◼ ► The thing I don't know about is what kind of I don't know how much like just the cost of the gold on the gold ones it's [TS]
02:20:54 ◼ ► and all the other stuff like just just getting down to brass tacks of like one of the parts here because once you start [TS]
02:20:59 ◼ ► using precious metals before you consider mark up there's a minimal amount that is going to go so I really have no idea [TS]
02:21:05 ◼ ► but I say definitely over a thousand or two thousand I think if you bought the best watch [TS]
02:21:17 ◼ ► I did not expect it to be over two thousand but I admit fully admit that I have no idea how much jewelry costs [TS]
02:21:29 ◼ ► or not just really like you know fancy watches are not priced based on the materials put into them. [TS]
02:21:34 ◼ ► That's a bit like when you pay thirty grand for a watch is not thirty grand worth of material or labor [TS]
02:21:42 ◼ ► or any other part of it is is just it is just the price has to do with it's not even Ferrari's a closer connection [TS]
02:21:50 ◼ ► between the parts the labor and the price of them because they use expensive exotic materials [TS]
02:21:54 ◼ ► and a lot of labor to put them together. There is a closer connection between what is just. [TS]
02:22:00 ◼ ► Totally nonsensical I mean anything a fashion like that dress does not cost you know twenty thousand dollars just [TS]
02:22:08 ◼ ► You're paying for something else and I do not feel like Apple is going to price any of its products [TS]
02:22:14 ◼ ► nor has it really ever priced any of its products that disconnected from the parts and labor that go into it. [TS]
02:22:19 ◼ ► They're going to have big margins sometimes the margins are ridiculous like they were on the twentieth anniversary mac [TS]
02:22:24 ◼ ► or even a mac to a fax which is like like thirteen grand in today's money or something like that [TS]
02:22:33 ◼ ► Put another way what is the margin that Apple would feel too embarrassed to put in its product two hundred percent [TS]
02:22:38 ◼ ► markup five hundred thousand I don't think they're going to go they're going to go much over two thousand dollars if [TS]
02:23:00 ◼ ► Yeah I'm I mean I think the addition addition like the gold that could that could be crazy [TS]
02:23:06 ◼ ► but OK So we already know the starting point three fifty even if we assume that's for only the small one [TS]
02:23:14 ◼ ► I'm guessing most people who own this thing probably aren't going over a total of five or six hundred [TS]
02:23:21 ◼ ► but I'm guessing that most of the one that actually gets sold are going to be in with a five hundred dollars total [TS]
02:23:31 ◼ ► and I this is the kind of thing I would expect that you don't replace as often as you replace a phone [TS]
02:23:38 ◼ ► or even an i Pad I think the average selling price might be similar to the phone price not the phone that people pay a [TS]
02:23:43 ◼ ► price for like that with like the real play price of one of the part of the i Phone five S. [TS]
02:23:47 ◼ ► Is like six hundred seven hundred dollars Apple when they when they saw one of those. It's all external. [TS]
02:23:54 ◼ ► Yeah that seems about right for for that which is crazy to think about like Oh the watch. [TS]
02:24:00 ◼ ► We're going to be cheaper like it seems like another product revenue wise if they sold as many of them as a Cell phones [TS]
02:24:08 ◼ ► That's for the first generation kind of like how the first i Phone so that ridiculous price and came down [TS]
02:24:16 ◼ ► So one thing I'm curious about is will there be different capacities. What do you mean capacities. [TS]
02:24:24 ◼ ► That's very interesting you know because I was a Kevin when she did the demo is that do I get the name right. Yeah. [TS]
02:24:29 ◼ ► Adobe guy who is one of my guys from Adobe working on now you know he had said and I tried to get a verbatim quote [TS]
02:24:37 ◼ ► but I may not be perfect than the music that stored right here on your Apple Watch. [TS]
02:24:43 ◼ ► When he was talking about playing music which implies to me that there is some amount of traditional style you know [TS]
02:24:58 ◼ ► Yeah I guess so the i Phone doesn't tell you how much RAM it then the i Watch to tell you how much flash the flash [TS]
02:25:10 ◼ ► Finally a reference all three of us and everyone gets it and no one in the audience got it. No not at all of course. [TS]
02:25:16 ◼ ► No I think you know we can we can we're going to learn more about this over the coming months presumably to an auction [TS]
02:25:22 ◼ ► I would I would guess probably January based on what they've said the way to describe how the software works some of [TS]
02:25:28 ◼ ► the little wording they've used here and there in the you know that I've heard back [TS]
02:25:31 ◼ ► and everything else I think the most likely arrangement here is that the apps mostly run on the phone [TS]
02:25:39 ◼ ► and the apps that were on the watch are extensions of phone apps. They're like the I was eight. Extensions. [TS]
02:25:44 ◼ ► You know that's what the packaging detail like the bottom line is you transfer it transferring binary to the watch by [TS]
02:25:49 ◼ ► way of the phone by way of the App Store in a bundle they get on there they have to be stored somewhere and write. [TS]
02:26:00 ◼ ► I would say extension quick aside what did you think of the quote unquote spring board. I loved it I thought was great. [TS]
02:26:06 ◼ ► It seems to me to be too easy to use in so far as all those taps are gets looked really small. [TS]
02:26:14 ◼ ► Well that's why you have a little loony thing this is ground again I highly recommend doing the paper printout because [TS]
02:26:21 ◼ ► when you see this even on the biggest Even the big screen one quote big it is such a small area I think it's going to [TS]
02:26:28 ◼ ► be challenging and I think it's going to thing where we're not going to know how easy [TS]
02:26:33 ◼ ► or hard it is until they actually try to use one because it's going to be very hard to predict [TS]
02:26:36 ◼ ► but that's why they do the magnifying effect like the whole I first saw it as I like the aesthetic that is the little [TS]
02:26:48 ◼ ► when they come towards the middle so it's kind of like they're trying to give you a big touch targets near the center [TS]
02:26:52 ◼ ► of the thing and then you just sort of slide around until what you want to tap in the center [TS]
02:27:00 ◼ ► but like I think most Well they're all trying to give you shortcuts the things you calmly decide button to do the [TS]
02:27:10 ◼ ► Any sort of dialogue if you want to call them that is between giant buttons take a third of the screen each so I don't [TS]
02:27:16 ◼ ► think people are going to spend a lot of time trying to hunt and peck little dots on that home screen. [TS]
02:27:20 ◼ ► I think obviously these are these are extensions they I'm sure they run natively on the watch like it's probably like [TS]
02:27:28 ◼ ► but it's using the sensor mechanism to communicate back with the phone was not a big extension Magnusson is just a [TS]
02:27:34 ◼ ► matter of packaging communicating back to the phone I think that's the question like because I have the shared data [TS]
02:27:41 ◼ ► but all that we can have a shared data can anyone they're running on a different device right. [TS]
02:27:45 ◼ ► but so the you know that's the question I was I don't think you can do a handoff style open a stream between those [TS]
02:27:50 ◼ ► things I think I think the the phone has to be an island in the same way that the entire i Phone used to be an island [TS]
02:27:55 ◼ ► where it's like you don't get to do anything in the background. If you want to do it. [TS]
02:28:00 ◼ ► Even with Bush you know because there's one person out of occasion service and we will dole out your things to you [TS]
02:28:03 ◼ ► and I don't even like it's going to be incredible isolation like the number the number of interactions with the phone. [TS]
02:28:10 ◼ ► and how long they last I expect to be severely constrained so yeah because battery life is going to be brutal so they [TS]
02:28:16 ◼ ► cannot have like oh just like kind of you can just open up a stream have an Airstream between you two things just talk [TS]
02:28:24 ◼ ► So I expect some kind of regimented structured way that this is a straw through which you have to say this is how many [TS]
02:28:35 ◼ ► and everything out on the on demand of you know something I was wondering about as well is I could swear during the [TS]
02:28:46 ◼ ► and maybe that was maybe I'm misconstruing that but I wonder if I don't remember the term but the thing on a macro [TS]
02:28:54 ◼ ► or on a phone where you have two simultaneous connections going one to the quote unquote housewife [TS]
02:29:01 ◼ ► and one for like air drop. Perhaps the watch will use that for you know doing a burst data transfer. [TS]
02:29:12 ◼ ► or something like that I mean I would presume it uses Bluetooth low energy as much as possible [TS]
02:29:16 ◼ ► but perhaps does this like Air Play asks sort of dual wife I thing to transfer anything big. [TS]
02:29:23 ◼ ► Oh yeah like I fully expect that if the watch only be communicating with your phone it will not be communicating with [TS]
02:29:29 ◼ ► your houses why fight even though the watch may have be wife I capable terms like radio frequency the stuff that it [TS]
02:29:35 ◼ ► would totally do Arab style and talk to your phone and only then when it needs that bandwidth [TS]
02:29:44 ◼ ► Is there do we have sources saying to his wife I said at the last show where we talked about the little S.D. [TS]
02:29:53 ◼ ► Card to the I five it goes into your camera and has you know and draws all its power from here. [TS]
02:30:00 ◼ ► If the card slot and yet as wife I don't toss your computer in areas like that like that they can get away with it. [TS]
02:30:05 ◼ ► Especially since I don't think like they're not going to give us a number for talk time on on even though you know the [TS]
02:30:16 ◼ ► and I just play awkward all due respect like they expect you to fire off responses to attacks send messages to people [TS]
02:30:22 ◼ ► do quick calls like that you know like I don't think they expected to be stained streaming audio [TS]
02:30:28 ◼ ► and you know certainly not video at this point is not even a camera on the on the watch of a you know in the other [TS]
02:30:38 ◼ ► and so it seems like the whole idea of the watch is you know sort of on the go pick up things looking at notifications [TS]
02:30:49 ◼ ► and I guess we'll see it for convenience like does it feel weird to hold your wrist up can you actually sustain a long [TS]
02:31:05 ◼ ► Which is interesting but it does have life I go to the Apple press release when they don't need A C. [TS]
02:31:10 ◼ ► So I got the rumour for the storage like a gig or something I know by the chat room that that's interesting. So that S. [TS]
02:31:16 ◼ ► One thing which is what a great you know we've got a bunch of stuff in here it's all in case nothing for water [TS]
02:31:24 ◼ ► but you would assume first of all the also with an ARM chip. You know they didn't say right. [TS]
02:31:34 ◼ ► Core from the A four and did it twenty nanometers and put the thing in a press and also the little demos. [TS]
02:31:42 ◼ ► and Then do those particle facts and do them in a way that energy efficient because like [TS]
02:31:46 ◼ ► when you drove little doodles they wipe away with a particle cyclic that's all Open G.L. [TS]
02:31:52 ◼ ► So like they were saying things like those flourishes mean they feel like that it's OK to do power wise which means. [TS]
02:32:03 ◼ ► That meets a minimum standard granted screen a super tiny doesn't need to push a lot of pixels [TS]
02:32:08 ◼ ► but that makes me really wonder what is inside that S one. If it's like a cut down G.P.U. [TS]
02:32:16 ◼ ► Made it a smaller process this is an entirely new chip that had nothing to do with any Apple whatever chip it has ever [TS]
02:32:22 ◼ ► been made. I'm really curious about the architectural details of what they could show into a watch. [TS]
02:32:28 ◼ ► I think it's also worth thinking about like you know how how does that like you know the flash I mentioned about you [TS]
02:32:37 ◼ ► How much does it work without an i Phone So I'm guessing one of the reason that has wife eye is because that way it can [TS]
02:32:45 ◼ ► work with hand off properly within your house like if it only has Bluetooth That means if your phone is more than one [TS]
02:32:53 ◼ ► hundred twenty feet away in most places it loses the connection so if your phone is like in your bag in Europe walking [TS]
02:33:01 ◼ ► or your office somewhere in your phone back to your desk you know that's going to be a problem but [TS]
02:33:04 ◼ ► when you can hand off to your mac I would imagine right you can't do a mac with a thing [TS]
02:33:08 ◼ ► and hand off works as a combination of Bluetooth and why five. So that's why I'm guessing that's why handoff. [TS]
02:33:20 ◼ ► Like I'm I'm guessing that if you are totally gone from your i Phone Let's say you go on a jog around the neighborhood [TS]
02:33:30 ◼ ► That's obviously a situation there considering that they're focusing so much on on fitness stuff [TS]
02:33:44 ◼ ► and it can probably it probably works like an i Pod where it can probably play a limited amount of music whatever it [TS]
02:33:53 ◼ ► and you know as you're out you can basically become an i Pod Nano it with a watch. [TS]
02:34:00 ◼ ► You're only doing bluetooth headphones which is going to kill the battery but that's another story. [TS]
02:34:05 ◼ ► But like that's that's it I'm guessing I'm guessing third party apps probably can't do anything in that mode [TS]
02:34:13 ◼ ► and I mean what what what was even want to do is that you have don't have anything to get to the outside world. [TS]
02:34:19 ◼ ► Maybe you could provide visualizations of information being picked up by the Emmys [TS]
02:34:23 ◼ ► or whatever the little you know something like something fitness related to make a better like a lap counter like all [TS]
02:34:28 ◼ ► the type of things you might want to watch to do when you're on a run or something or walking [TS]
02:34:34 ◼ ► Because it doesn't have I don't think you can do it doesn't that we know of as C.B.S.'s Emma doesn't just for power [TS]
02:34:40 ◼ ► reasons. They said they said in the keynote his says something like that I can use the G.P.S. [TS]
02:34:46 ◼ ► From your i Phone which I'm pretty sure is pretty clearly saying it doesn't have its own G.P.S. [TS]
02:34:51 ◼ ► and We're going to have to wait many more years before they can jam more crap and do your but I assume you know it. [TS]
02:34:58 ◼ ► and I actually have a camera might be center like we're going to wait for technology to catch up for them to stick more [TS]
02:35:04 ◼ ► of the stuff in there but for now this is definitely you know and they snuck it in early and you know [TS]
02:35:09 ◼ ► and then more later this needs to go with your i Phone which I think is fine for this product in the beginning because [TS]
02:35:15 ◼ ► who's going to buy a really expensive heavy smartwatch they probably already have a funny way. [TS]
02:35:21 ◼ ► and it's a thing like if this does take off as a fashion item that's going to drive i Phone sales figures are going to [TS]
02:35:32 ◼ ► And intil in unless there can be an android equivalent to this like I know the tons of Android smart watches [TS]
02:35:38 ◼ ► but I don't think any of them executed fashion wise to the caliber that this thing appears to be so if someone wants it [TS]
02:35:45 ◼ ► as a fashion accessory they don't actually have a good Android based alternative that I think lives up to the fashion [TS]
02:35:52 ◼ ► standard set by this phone in terms of fit and finish and probably cache because of the popularity of it [TS]
02:36:00 ◼ ► I think they would probably be unlikely to see something like this from the Android camp any time soon. [TS]
02:36:08 ◼ ► Well I'm saying it's unlikely that we're going to see anyone else besides Apple make one that is this desirable [TS]
02:36:18 ◼ ► Like most people are not going to like oh I can't wait to get my you know to wrap one of the new Motorola whatevers [TS]
02:36:25 ◼ ► Well Samsung will make one look that looks exactly identical so that going for one thing also if you if you've been [TS]
02:36:31 ◼ ► reading some of the tweets from from people who know more about manufacturing than we do. [TS]
02:36:36 ◼ ► Some of the really basic traits of this are just really hard to manufacture like Apple can do it because they are so [TS]
02:36:50 ◼ ► and like somebody was saying like even just like the design of the of the Crown it requires some insane waves to make [TS]
02:37:04 ◼ ► and how like even those are hard to make in that specific shape and with that kind of precision everything. [TS]
02:37:10 ◼ ► Regular people don't make those affections though like the not the Samsung phones are not made in the same sentence Our [TS]
02:37:16 ◼ ► phones are the most evil of those but that's high and watch and certainly well but I don't know I really don't know. [TS]
02:37:23 ◼ ► and yes I haven't read that article it's been going around today about the I know I should talk about Apple Watch just [TS]
02:37:28 ◼ ► haven't gotten around to it will but it will put in the show notes so you guys can redeem him before I do. [TS]
02:37:48 ◼ ► but the interactive bits that you can do with the watch so when you can like draw a little doodles [TS]
02:37:53 ◼ ► and you can do the heart beat thing which I think that's more creepy than not but I'm not. [TS]
02:38:02 ◼ ► but what I just noticed I don't recall them saying during the keynote is that this is a full on Dick Tracy watch [TS]
02:38:10 ◼ ► because it has a walkie talkie on it and I'm reading from Apple's web site for a fun alternative to a phone call. [TS]
02:38:15 ◼ ► Use the built in speaker microphone to trade spur of the moment sound bites with friends I want to really is a walkie [TS]
02:38:22 ◼ ► talkie like again getting back to Margot saying no phone take all the phones out to people what I watch is going to a [TS]
02:38:30 ◼ ► I can imagine that being the case because they can do ad hoc wife I'm between their watches or something I don't. [TS]
02:38:36 ◼ ► Wells airdrop the bet is that anyway that's like that was the throwing stuff against the wall part of the of the [TS]
02:38:47 ◼ ► and who knows maybe things will be useful a lot as you know try to see their use was hampered by the fact they have to [TS]
02:38:55 ◼ ► or own it as user to text the person because you're not doing text input on the you know they're watching everything so [TS]
02:39:01 ◼ ► it will say here's a really basic question this thing is supposedly water resistant right. [TS]
02:39:10 ◼ ► and so you can like you know if you're like washing the dishes and get splashed splits blast resistant [TS]
02:39:17 ◼ ► and the general sealed nature of this thing looks like it is right where you would expect a fancy watch to be in that [TS]
02:39:28 ◼ ► but we'll do our best to keep water out of the thing to go back to the experience of the digital crown seemed like a [TS]
02:39:38 ◼ ► What didn't make sense to me having never touched one one it's why I use the home button pressing the crown it seems to [TS]
02:39:50 ◼ ► and pressing that big huge button below the crown is the home bottom of the leg mutant rotation lock all over again I'm [TS]
02:40:00 ◼ ► Like the thing that baffles me is that much about the ground is like that would have been a logical place to try to [TS]
02:40:04 ◼ ► cram Touch ID but I guess it's too small for your not such idea on this well but it's never leaving your person ever. [TS]
02:40:13 ◼ ► when you pay with the phone you have to touch idea of Medicaid but when you pay with a watch you don't I don't. [TS]
02:40:18 ◼ ► Yes Somebody was saying how like it'll use the skin sensor on the bottom to like see if it still taxed you or never [TS]
02:40:24 ◼ ► but I that sound that that might change will see if I could be stupid and now that I had occasion works [TS]
02:40:29 ◼ ► and it's kind of like they could take it off your wrist it's replaced a little I was going to do it and he [TS]
02:40:36 ◼ ► and others in any way mean those movies I think you know there are places that I don't with a sandbag like oh yeah [TS]
02:40:42 ◼ ► but you gotta take the wrist the watch out the recipe you have to make it think itself against skin or whatever. [TS]
02:40:49 ◼ ► Casey I think your point is very valid about how I think clicking the wheel should be OK [TS]
02:40:58 ◼ ► and on his watch so you know obviously these this is an extreme premium similar to the I thought like there are only [TS]
02:41:03 ◼ ► two buttons I think it's interesting that the second button rather than being home the second button is like bring up [TS]
02:41:11 ◼ ► your list of friends like that it shows you where their focus is their focus is on making this a very social device as [TS]
02:41:22 ◼ ► or you know go launch threes like this this is very much like this is meant to be a very social device [TS]
02:41:30 ◼ ► and honestly want one where that I was little bit leaders like I'm probably only going to have my wife on that list. [TS]
02:41:37 ◼ ► First of all I don't think I want to see anyone else's heart beat really leave a solitary life [TS]
02:41:42 ◼ ► but other people who are going amongst like I think I think of a teenager was got all their friends are going to be on [TS]
02:41:49 ◼ ► Rich teenagers sign Yeah you know like their friends are going to hate them for having an i was interesting it's [TS]
02:41:54 ◼ ► interesting with the social aspect of it because I agree that something you want to use it for [TS]
02:42:00 ◼ ► They have like the animated the Moji in the little drawings they want you to use this thing to sort of quickly [TS]
02:42:04 ◼ ► communicate with people at the tapping and all that other stuff they want you to use it for that [TS]
02:42:10 ◼ ► and that's we're not going to throw up a little keyboard you can you can probably do you can do dictation you can talk [TS]
02:42:16 ◼ ► But what can you do without doing is the well you can draw little pictures which I think is clever you can do a little [TS]
02:42:21 ◼ ► tapping the little animated M O G is like fun like they're trying to say we want you to communicate in ways other than [TS]
02:42:29 ◼ ► typing to each other and thus far the world has said we want to text each other like crazy. [TS]
02:42:33 ◼ ► So this will be an interesting challenge to see if they can convince the world to use these alternate means of [TS]
02:42:39 ◼ ► communication for more than just hey I just got an I watch us play with all these novelty things [TS]
02:42:46 ◼ ► when I saw the like Cap feature so you can just like tap on it and you know you can do it many times in a row [TS]
02:42:56 ◼ ► and you know inventing your own little language as I say of the you know apathy Twitter the it open because that's [TS]
02:43:02 ◼ ► basically like it is like you want to what is tapping to like you just want to get someone's attention like Hey Hey [TS]
02:43:08 ◼ ► and you a little tap on the wrist right in the journey things like Committee came a lot of people said that [TS]
02:43:13 ◼ ► but that the key of the glisten journey is that you don't get to pick what yours is. [TS]
02:43:20 ◼ ► and making little you know language within each other as many many people including me tweeted this is an opportunity [TS]
02:43:26 ◼ ► for them to let a million rudimentary drawings of penises Bloom because that's all people are going to draw on this [TS]
02:43:32 ◼ ► thing and send each other little tiny terrible phalluses ledger with their finger on their phone on their watch. [TS]
02:43:42 ◼ ► Oh that's interesting I didn't bring up like I just totally did not want you to do text input on this thing unless [TS]
02:43:48 ◼ ► you're talking to Syria like that that they do not want you to draw letters they don't want you to type letters like [TS]
02:43:55 ◼ ► Happy face and sending out a something about a hand that you composed. No will make a middle finger. [TS]
02:44:01 ◼ ► Maybe a third party Apple do that for you by the way I did see somebody with a square [TS]
02:44:06 ◼ ► or rectangular shaped Android watch just a few weeks ago trying to type out like a text message on it [TS]
02:44:17 ◼ ► Little I mean I think we should say for next week questions such as Why is a good question. [TS]
02:44:26 ◼ ► That's why so it is written so let it be Di Maio like what are they going to like you guys you don't know if you got no [TS]
02:44:36 ◼ ► All right thanks a lot who are three sponsors this week for they probably don't even look at the whole thing. [TS]
02:44:42 ◼ ► Thanks for the response of this week. However Warby Parker and Squarespace and we will see you next week. [TS]
02:44:52 ◼ ► Now on this show is over and then me to be and it was accidental accidental with accidental [TS]
02:45:28 ◼ ► and that said I think people listening to this will be disappointed that you didn't try to make me feel bad about not [TS]
02:46:00 ◼ ► Nothing that happened during this event changes any of the things they went into me not going well though I will say [TS]
02:46:06 ◼ ► when that stream kept cutting the T.V. Were like Syracuse was kicking him kicking himself. [TS]
02:46:16 ◼ ► and it was a noble like say first of all I guess that I didn't. I always had one strain that was working. [TS]
02:46:23 ◼ ► Which is kind of disappointing but it totally even done by the time the lodge got there so the streaming wasn't fine [TS]
02:46:28 ◼ ► and I can tell you that what I feel after the event was over relief that I didn't now not fly home. [TS]
02:46:39 ◼ ► Now like I totally I am totally not disappointed I'm not to the point of it any good to see you too. [TS]
02:46:46 ◼ ► I mean I'm disappointed disappointed they didn't get to see my friends who went to the thing [TS]
02:46:51 ◼ ► but you know I totally do not regret my decision I made the right one. Pretty much I was nothing they could have done. [TS]
02:46:58 ◼ ► Here's what they could have done if they gave every one into macro I would have regretted not fest was dead. [TS]
02:47:03 ◼ ► No I would not have regretted not being there for those I like unless there's something I could have gotten by being in [TS]
02:47:08 ◼ ► Whether you know it's an experience or like an actual thing or something like that [TS]
02:47:12 ◼ ► and the looking of the i Watch as a haiku for a fifth time I've said it I started out looking at the avalanches [TS]
02:47:18 ◼ ► and everything will seem eventually I'm not like it's not like this is exactly what I thought the event was going to be [TS]
02:47:28 ◼ ► The best thing was when when YOU TO comes out because don't you like you two a lot. [TS]
02:47:32 ◼ ► but not like I mean only the earlier stuff like I used to I used to follow them a lot more than I do now they're kind [TS]
02:47:42 ◼ ► of an aging band the musical style that I'm doing lately is not particularly to my tastes in there in the grand scheme [TS]
02:47:52 ◼ ► I mean I probably would've bought that album Anywhere I still buy the albums when they come out [TS]
02:48:00 ◼ ► When they first started playing I was like oh man Syracuse is going to hit that he missed this. [TS]
02:48:08 ◼ ► and does that horribly awkward skit with them all was so bad I think anybody who likes either you two or Tim Cook [TS]
02:48:18 ◼ ► or anything good in the world is better off not having seen the I think bonded pretty well considering this is not his [TS]
02:48:24 ◼ ► Like he doesn't know how to a company like these they have to say we're going to do this thing [TS]
02:48:29 ◼ ► and like you know Tim Cook was more embarrassing because like he seems a little silly and star struck and red faced [TS]
02:48:35 ◼ ► and flustered and it's like well in the finger touch was just the icing on the key awkward case. [TS]
02:48:42 ◼ ► I went when I really watched the thing I did not watch that part again because it's not it's a little bit available [TS]
02:48:50 ◼ ► So we actually had the experience of that not being there either I don't like that song they played. [TS]
02:48:55 ◼ ► Yeah I think I want to treat it like most Apple events where they have a closing band where where the music is the end [TS]
02:49:02 ◼ ► That's like like that's like usually when the when the Muse will get started playing all the live blog stop [TS]
02:49:07 ◼ ► and I say Right that's it. We'll see you later. Nothing's going to happen after this. [TS]
02:49:11 ◼ ► You too even though I was if you two isn't like the press area afterwards mingling I could've hung out with them [TS]
02:49:18 ◼ ► So to me if you if you could if you saw you know the edge but he saw the light and you go like Buckhead. [TS]
02:49:33 ◼ ► Yeah what would you what would you ask in a setting like that like do you have a prepared question you can't like I [TS]